Goldman Sachs "Charitable Fund" Donated $12 Million to Radical Group That Organized and Encouraged Violent Pro-Hamas Takeovers

In the January 6th matter, the DOJ investigated and prosecuted people who were not even present in Washington DC, on the theory that they encouraged it or were "co-conspirators" to "insurrection."

What should happen to Goldman Sachs, then?

A New York City nonprofit that received more than $12 million from Goldman Sachs' charitable arm encouraged anti-Israel activists to re-create the violent protests of "the summer of 2020," just hours before rioters stormed and occupied a building on Columbia University's campus.
More than 100 masked and keffiyeh-clad activists convened in the People's Forum's Manhattan office Monday evening to plan their next moves as anti-Israel protests reach a fever pitch across the country. The meeting, which was scheduled to start at 6:45 p.m., was delayed to give protesters from Columbia time to make it downtown.
Once the Columbia protesters arrived, People's Forum executive director Manolo De Los Santos urged the group to "give Joe Biden a hot summer" and "make it untenable for the politics of usual to take place in this country." Los Santos praised Columbia students for "decid[ing] that resistance is more important than negotiations," and urged those assembled at the People's Forum to "support our students so that the encampments can go for as long as they can."
Los Santos also ranted about the "Zionist" Columbia administrators who "want to be more like their masters in Israel."
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The People's Forum's operations are made possible in large part by a $12 million donation from Goldman Sachs's charitable arm. The source of that money is likely Neville Roy Singham, a communist who has "long admired Maoism."
Singham, an American businessman who lives in China, reportedly helps finance the Chinese Communist Party's "propaganda worldwide," according to the New York Times. His wife, Jodie Evans, is the leader of the activist group Code Pink. Under her leadership, the group has celebrated China as "a defender of the oppressed and a model for economic growth without slavery or war."
"As with any donor advised fund, the prior donation was made with the client's money, at the client's direction," a Goldman Sachs spokesman told the Free Beacon. "This was not firm money."
Groups like the People's Forum stand to lose their charity status if they are found to be party to riots and violent protests, experts told the Free Beacon. The IRS's charity guidelines state that groups may lose their charity status if they engage in "planned activities that violate laws" or "induce the commission of crime."

Security policy expert Kyle Shideler writes that these violent "protests" may be alienating voters, but the far left doesn't care -- because their goal is to mau-mau the Democrat Party elite into submission, and it's working.

My guess is that somewhere the organizers have a spectrum of allies chart, focused on Democrat leaders, and they have very specific ideas about where the protests are intended to move them. pic.twitter.com/gtiNhEl665
— Kyle Shideler (@ShidelerK) May 1, 2024

Kyle Shideler
@ShidelerK
"But this is an election year! They risk splitting their base and losing." Sure. IF you care about that kind of thing, which revolutionaries do not, but the establishment does. "Give us everything we want, or you get the Bad Orange Man again" is implictly part of the threat.
The threat of Trump Reascendant is essentially a Kornilov coup. It exists as a specter in the distance, to force the progressives more fully into the radical camp for fear of a counter-revolution.
The radicals deliberately nostalgia bomb the establishment with 1968 language and actions as well. Because 1. the establishment is sympathetic to those prior radicals (or literally were them.) and 2. The implict warning is, you will give us what we want, or you get Nixon.
Why do radicals think that this would work? Because it almost ALWAYS works. And they have the further evidence of the BLM kneeling and siding with Antifa against federal law enforcement in 2020.
Add to this that the same mega-donors who are funding these protests are major level Democrat donors. Why are they funding an upheaval aimmed at the very people they support? Because they want to push them further left. They want to move the Overton Window.
In the same way that "abolish the police" became a mainstream Democrat "Defund the police" on the backs of riots, the Democrat position on Israel has moved to what would have been previously unthinkable. And they will continue to move leftward.
But it's not really about Israel at all. This is about sawing off legs of a stool. The more you cut out from under the target, the more reliant upon you they become. Eventually when you step aside, they topple.
"Don't they know they're losing pro-Israel Jewish Democrats!" Yes. Duh. That's the point. This is a major leg of the party stool, and the radicals intend to cut it away.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 02:15 PM

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1 Funding terrorism is a crime, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

2 Charities need to be tightened up.

Posted by: mr tmz at May 01, 2024 02:16 PM (rJ48h)

3 Just like the J6 guys, huh, Warren?

*types* *deletes*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 02:17 PM (di6C2)

4 Percentage of that $12M that actually ended up in the hands of anyone actually protesting? Under 10%. Just another leftwing slush fund feeding many fat pigs at the trough.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 02:18 PM (iFTx/)

5 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: that guy that always thinks nothing will happen at May 01, 2024 02:18 PM (aD39U)

6 Funding terrorism is a crime, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

Sometimes. Maybe.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 01, 2024 02:18 PM (R4t5M)

7 Goldman Sachs "Charitable Fund" [b[Donated $12 Million to Radical Group That Organized and Encouraged Violent Pro-Hamas Takeovers

Definition: In Article III, Section 3 of the United States Constitution, treason is specifically limited to levying war against the U.S., or adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 02:19 PM (hF4JZ)

8 Goldman? Sachs? Sound vaguely…….Jewish.

Posted by: Eromero at May 01, 2024 02:19 PM (NxC5+)

9 Why are they funding an upheaval aimmed at the very people they support? Because they want to push them further left. They want to move the Overton Window.

We need a study of the stickiness of the Overton Window. It seems to be assumed that it can always be moved. I submit that is not always the case, and that exerting too much pressure can actually cause it to rebound in the opposite direction than that intended.

Sometimes it's good to think before acting.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:19 PM (CsUN+)

10 Something tells me these "charities" will not actually lose their funding. At most, they will dissolve and rebrand themselves. Kind of like ACORN.

They'll still get all the money they need to continue their activism and terrorism.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 01, 2024 02:19 PM (7fElN)

11 What should happen to Goldman Sachs, then?
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An illegal 11th-hour conversion into a bank holding company so they can access the Fed discount window and stave off financial collapse?

Oh wait. Silly me. That already happened, more than a decade ago.

But there's no such thing as free lunch. Goldman owes its continued existence to the Party, and is full of Party men who support Party directives.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:19 PM (HnUIn)

12 Funding terrorism is a crime, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

As a Moron has astutely noted; It's (D)ifferent.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 01, 2024 02:19 PM (aD39U)

13 "But this is an election year! They risk splitting their base and losing." Sure.

I see we are back to pretending votes will be counted.

Posted by: Water Leaks, Simultaneous Pause in the Middle of the Night Across Time Zones at May 01, 2024 02:20 PM (CJNps)

14 Groups like the People's Forum stand to lose their charity status if they are found to be party to riots and violent protests, experts told the Free Beacon. The IRS's charity guidelines state that groups may lose their charity status if they engage in "planned activities that violate laws" or "induce the commission of crime."
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LOL. Good grief. Do these people believe the crap they spew, or is it purely for the benefit of the rubes?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:20 PM (HnUIn)

15 13 "But this is an election year! They risk splitting their base and losing." Sure.

I see we are back to pretending votes will be counted.
Posted by: Water Leaks, Simultaneous Pause in the Middle of the Night Across Time Zones at May 01, 2024 02:20 PM (CJNps)

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Votes will be counted. And then counted again. And then counted again.

Until the correct result is reached.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:20 PM (GBKbO)

16 Lol speaking of the GOP.....

"Do what we tell you to do or the Democrat might win!"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 02:20 PM (+yhUM)

17 Security policy expert Kyle Shideler writes that these violent "protests" may be alienating voters, but the far left doesn't care -- because their goal is to mau-mau the Democrat Party elite into submission, and it's working.
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They only have to convert (or intimidate into conversion) a fairly small minority of Party elites. Most are already on board.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:21 PM (HnUIn)

18 If they were only using their voices there wouldn't be a problem.

It's the taking over of property.
It's the demands.
It's the refusal to let Jewish students go to class.
It's the destruction of property.

As usual, Elizabeth Warren is a useful idiot, dumbass.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 01, 2024 02:21 PM (JeYYB)

19 $12m buys a lot of tents, umbrellas and Antifa militants.

Posted by: 13times at May 01, 2024 02:21 PM (RtCev)

20 He speaks as if the radical useful idiots are making decisions. They are not. The Soros's, Rockefellers, and a few others are calling the shots, and they need to be called out and punished.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 01, 2024 02:21 PM (pohLc)

21 Goldman Sachs.

There's something about the name...hmmmm...give me a bit, I'll figure it out....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 02:22 PM (tT6L1)

22 I'm at the point where all charities -- every single one of them -- should be abolished. Sure, you can form a charity if you want. But all tax and legal advantages are revoked, as are tax and legal advantages of donating. Why am I giving huge tax breaks to people who hate me and want me dead??

Yes, a few genuine conservative charities would be affected. But since I'll almost guarantee you that 90% of charity money flows into leftwing terror "charities," I can live with that.

Ditto college endowments. Fuck them. Tax the fuck out of them as well as all donations.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 02:22 PM (iFTx/)

23 Security policy expert Kyle Shideler writes that these violent "protests" may be alienating voters, but the far left doesn't care -- because their goal is to mau-mau the Democrat Party elite into submission, and it's working.

Well, we're damn sick and tired of it, we can tell you that.

Posted by: The Flak-Catchers at May 01, 2024 02:22 PM (CsUN+)

24 "But this is an election year! They risk splitting their base and losing." Sure. IF you care about that kind of thing, which revolutionaries do not, but the establishment does. "Give us everything we want, or you get the Bad Orange Man again" is implictly part of the threat.

The threat of Trump Reascendant is essentially a Kornilov coup. It exists as a specter in the distance, to force the progressives more fully into the radical camp for fear of a counter-revolution.
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Eh, maybe. But this entire concept is predicated on an assumption that I am not sure is correct. The assumption is, "the establishment fears Trump and sees him as an existential threat to itself."

I think that might be a bad assumption.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)

25 21 Goldman Sachs.

There's something about the name...hmmmm...give me a bit, I'll figure it out....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 02:22 PM (tT6L1)

Sachs = Saxon.

Fucking Germans.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 02:23 PM (+yhUM)

26 The sad thing is the Mau-Maus get nothing out of the deal.

Posted by: The Simbas at May 01, 2024 02:23 PM (4a+k3)

27 Afternoon.

Posted by: Robert at May 01, 2024 02:23 PM (1Yy3c)

28 The Soros's, Rockefellers, and a few others are calling the shots, and they need to be called out and punished.

The plural of Soros is sorii. Or vermin, if you prefer.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:23 PM (CsUN+)

29 We no longer have elections, we have “election-style events.”

Posted by: 13times at May 01, 2024 02:23 PM (RtCev)

30 24 Eh, maybe. But this entire concept is predicated on an assumption that I am not sure is correct. The assumption is, "the establishment fears Trump and sees him as an existential threat to itself."

I think that might be a bad assumption.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:22 PM (HnUIn)

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I don't think they fear him, but he is the toe in the door of the people having a say in how the government operates again.

They will not cede an inch.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:23 PM (GBKbO)

31 Heyhowareya heyhowareya heyhowareya.

- Senator Warren

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at May 01, 2024 02:24 PM (L/fGl)

32 "Don't they know they are losing pro Israel Jewish Democrats".

Are they? Assumes facts not in evidence that many of those same voters won't continue to vote D just like before, because they have made voting Democrat such a part of their identity that nothing short of actually being put on the box car can shake that foundation.

And I know at least one who truly believes that if Israel wasnt there, stiring the pot, all they'd have to worry about is those anti semetics who ate almost all right wingers.

Posted by: Bete at May 01, 2024 02:24 PM (LX4y3)

33 But it's not really about Israel at all. This is about sawing off legs of a stool. The more you cut out from under the target, the more reliant upon you they become. Eventually when you step aside, they topple.
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If he's right, it's particularly ironic because they're already in charge. They're cutting up their *own* stool if that's the case. Like how the recent push for Cloward-Piven is amusing because they're wrecking their *own* train set and many of them don't realize it.

But this is also why I don't think he's right.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:24 PM (HnUIn)

34 LOL. Good grief. Do these people believe the crap they spew, or is it purely for the benefit of the rubes?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:20 PM (HnUIn)
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No, that statement is aimed at Conservative Christian churches and Synagogues.

Those rules will be ruthlessly applied to anything which might challenge the power of the state.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 02:24 PM (tT6L1)

35 Laws don't matter if they are not enforced.

Vigilantism is on the horizon.

I can hear the approaching pickup trucks.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 01, 2024 02:24 PM (ufFY8)

36 I see we are back to pretending votes will be counted.
Posted by: Water Leaks, Simultaneous Pause
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They be counted and re-counted until Biden is declared the winner.

Posted by: Darth Randall at May 01, 2024 02:24 PM (xT7BI)

37 TOO BIG TO FAIL!!

Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 02:25 PM (h10td)

38 ... They will not cede an inch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:23 PM (GBKbO)
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I'm not making that bet, not right now. A second Trump administration will solve a lot of problems for the Party and if a dumbass like me can figure that out, the top-echelon Party bosses can.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:25 PM (HnUIn)

39 Singham, an American businessman who lives in China, reportedly helps finance the Chinese Communist Party's "propaganda worldwide,"

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I have a feeling that China had a hand in a lot of this. In addition to the likes of Qatar.

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2024 02:25 PM (V13WU)

40 Send them all to the strictest Muslim nations on the planet.

Posted by: XTC at May 01, 2024 02:25 PM (UnA8+)

41 28 The Soros's, Rockefellers, and a few others are calling the shots, and they need to be called out and punished.

The plural of Soros is sorii. Or vermin, if you prefer.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:23 PM (CsUN+)

What do you have against me and the pony I rode in on?

Posted by: Vermin Supreme at May 01, 2024 02:25 PM (N39Ws)

42 18 If they were only using their voices there wouldn't be a problem.

It's the taking over of property.
It's the demands.
It's the refusal to let Jewish students go to class.
It's the destruction of property.

As usual, Elizabeth Warren is a useful idiot, dumbass.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 01, 2024 02:21 PM (JeYYB)

She's sympathetic to the loudest lib voice.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 02:25 PM (KbCG3)

43 If he's right, it's particularly ironic because they're already in charge. They're cutting up their *own* stool if that's the case. Like how the recent push for Cloward-Piven is amusing because they're wrecking their *own* train set and many of them don't realize it.

But this is also why I don't think he's right.

I think he's right. Ergo, he's right.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:25 PM (CsUN+)

44 You guys don't understand, this topic is "complicated"!!!

Rep. Annie Kuster (D-N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said that many of her fellow Democrats "have been, kind of, holding back" on commenting about the protests.

"It's complicated enough for us with the range of opinions and height of emotions we have, without weighing in on what [colleges] should be doing," Kuster said.

"It's hard because ... the more thoughtful approach is the more difficult approach. It's easier to pick a side and start yelling," said another senior House Democrat.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 01, 2024 02:26 PM (i7Q7S)

45 Break up Goldman. It's too big !

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2024 02:26 PM (V13WU)

46 25 21 Goldman Sachs.

There's something about the name...hmmmm...give me a bit, I'll figure it out....
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 02:22 PM (tT6L1)

Sachs = Saxon.

Fucking Germans.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 02:23 PM (+yhUM)
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Both Marc Goldman and Sam Sachs were Bavarian Jews.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

47 Sachs = Saxon.

Fucking Germans.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 02:23 PM (+yhUM)
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Heh

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 02:26 PM (tT6L1)

48 38 I'm not making that bet, not right now. A second Trump administration will solve a lot of problems for the Party and if a dumbass like me can figure that out, the top-echelon Party bosses can.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:25 PM (HnUIn)

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I just don't get the sense from these people that they are the kind to believe in tactical retreats, or to even know what they are.

They seem more like the CCP faced with protests at Tiananmen Square.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

49 ... "It's complicated enough for us with the range of opinions and height of emotions we have, without weighing in on what [colleges] should be doing," Kuster said. ...
Posted by: Jay in PA at May 01, 2024 02:26 PM (i7Q7S)
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LOL. The "war is complex" dodge.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (HnUIn)

50 As usual, Elizabeth Warren is a useful idiot, dumbass.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 01, 2024 02:21 PM

Objection. I have no use for her.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (FAGAJ)

51 46 Both Marc Goldman and Sam Sachs were Bavarian Jews.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

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Bavarians are cool.

Well, at least the ones I drank with 15 years ago in Rome.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (GBKbO)

52 Do we not get any credit for also funding the "counter-protesters"?!

Posted by: Goldman Sucks at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (Nf1pZ)

53 When I see people like Warren, I still cannot believe that we can even manage to cobble together a military of any stature.

That there are still people willing to die for this country is simply...I don't know. We're blessed to have them. We don't deserve them.

But I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would risk it all in the name of these people.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (KbCG3)

54 Rep. Annie Kuster (D-N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said that many of her fellow Democrats "have been, kind of, holding back" on commenting about the protests.

"It's complicated enough for us with the range of opinions and height of emotions we have, without weighing in on what [colleges] should be doing," Kuster said.

"It's hard because ... the more thoughtful approach is the more difficult approach. It's easier to pick a side and start yelling," said another senior House Democrat.

Translation: We're screwed either way, and we don't know what to do other than hope it all blows over.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (CsUN+)

55 I'm glad OJ stabbed Ron Goldman.

Posted by: guy who doesn't understand there's more than one Goldman at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (CJNps)

56 "Ooooh, we're soooooo scared of DeepState IRS!"

- Management of Goldman Sachs' charitable arm

Posted by: Gref at May 01, 2024 02:28 PM (5fDan)

57 Laws don't matter if they are not enforced.

Vigilantism is on the horizon.

I can hear the approaching pickup trucks.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt

Banjo music. "Unclebrother Billy Bob, izzat you?"

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 02:28 PM (hF4JZ)

58 Bavarians like to stick to ...traditions...

Posted by: runner at May 01, 2024 02:28 PM (V13WU)

59 54 Translation: We're screwed either way, and we don't know what to do other than hope it all blows over.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (CsUN+)

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Arrest and prosecute George Soros for anything they could possibly throw at him save for anything related to this.

It would send a message.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:28 PM (GBKbO)

60 Heh Republicans have to "denounce" every rando in his basement that may or may not even support them 8,000 times, but Democrats need to do no such thing to literal Nazis and terrorists.

It's beautiful.

We apparently have to understand all the subtle nuances of the "K*ll All Jews" position.

Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 02:28 PM (h10td)

61 You know you're part of a garbage political movement when you can't publicly say pushing Jews into the sea is a wrong thought to have.

Posted by: Jay in PA at May 01, 2024 02:28 PM (i7Q7S)

62 Hands off Sachs.

Posted by: 13times at May 01, 2024 02:28 PM (RtCev)

63 44 You guys don't understand, this topic is "complicated"!!!

Rep. Annie Kuster (D-N.H.), chair of the New Democrat Coalition, said that many of her fellow Democrats "have been, kind of, holding back" on commenting about the protests.

"It's complicated enough for us with the range of opinions and height of emotions we have, without weighing in on what [colleges] should be doing," Kuster said.

"It's hard because ... the more thoughtful approach is the more difficult approach. It's easier to pick a side and start yelling," said another senior House Democrat.
Posted by: Jay in PA at May 01, 2024 02:26 PM (i7Q7S)

The year is 2024 and Fetterman is handing out lessons in clear and unequivocal messaging.

What a world.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 02:29 PM (KbCG3)

64 Arrest and prosecute George Soros for anything they could possibly throw at him save for anything related to this.

It would send a message.

Agree.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:29 PM (CsUN+)

65 Bavarians are cool.

I love their creme filled donuts.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 02:29 PM (hF4JZ)

66 He speaks as if the radical useful idiots are making decisions. They are not. The Soros's, Rockefellers, and a few others are calling the shots, and they need to be called out and punished.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

Punish them? Really? You honestly expect that to happen? Some of the very wealthiest people in this country punished?

And no, the Pro-Israel Democrats are not a significant faction of the voting block in any meaningful way. They don't care. The only state where they could POSSIBLY have an impact is in New York, and the voting is fixed that the Democrats will win.
I think that expecting Donald Trump to actually change much, if he survives and is elected, is wishful thinking at best. Things are a little too broken now.

Posted by: No one of consequence at May 01, 2024 02:29 PM (vcOmj)

67 As someone said earlier, those who seek to destroy civilization never, ever believe it will destroy them too.

Of course, the ignorance that got them to attack civilization is the same ignorance squared that makes them believe they will be safe.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (yikga)

68 Was Sachs a tenor or a bass?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (9yWhg)

69 It's tempting to see the left as 10' tall. They aren't. They aren't smart enough to bring food to an occupation.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (CsUN+)

70 Arrest and prosecute George Soros for anything they could possibly throw at him save for anything related to this.

It would send a message.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Simply deport him to any of the various countries that he has screwed over. Hungary's Orban, for example, would gladly accept the asshole to try and send to prison for what Soros did there. Thailand, likewise, has a bone to pick with him.

Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (peJ7P)

71 51 46 Both Marc Goldman and Sam Sachs were Bavarian Jews.
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 02:26 PM (iFTx/)

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Bavarians are cool.

Well, at least the ones I drank with 15 years ago in Rome.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (GBKbO)
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I was in Munich for Oktoberfest. Bavarians are very cool. Even when me and my mom mistakenly went to the Oktoberfest tents on "Gay Night." I thought something was "off." Didn't find out until the cab ride back to the hotel what it was . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (iFTx/)

72 But this is also why I don't think he's right.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:24 PM (HnUIn)

The people orchestrating the anti jew and anti civilization riots are not the DNC crowd, i would imagine. Soros? Wall Street? The IMF? Whoever it is, they're the ones sending the pallets of bricks and the uniforms and the banners and flags. The DNC is just wallowing in stolen cash and saying preposterous shit online while thinking everything is going according to plan. But now they're realizing that they're not really all that important in the grand scheme of things, just idiots in suits who go on TV and social media to wear the donkey costume and bray like jackasses. So there's probably some impotent panic involved amongst them.

Danton and Marat may have helped light the fire, but that didn't stop Robespierre from throwing them into it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (+yhUM)

73 I just don't get the sense from these people that they are the kind to believe in tactical retreats, or to even know what they are. ...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:26 PM (GBKbO)
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They might be. I also don't see Trump making it in as a tactical retreat on their part, it would be another forward action.

If they let Trump in, they can have him clean up this particular Pali mess and still declare victory while excoriating him for cleaning it up. That's secondary. More important, it gives them a way to get rid of Joe and Kamala and groom the next guy for four years without full-blown war within the Party. The economy is about to leg down again, and inflation is heating up again and next year is likely to be pretty bad. If they let Trump in, they can blame him for the next four years and put an end to the "Trump Miracle Economy" narrative through constant full-court deceit and lying (which they're good at). While they're using him as the scapegoat and letting him solve some nasty problems for them, they also know how to contain him otherwise.

Letting Trump back in is not all downside if they're smart.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (HnUIn)

74 Sounds like sedition to me. Let’s pull up some confederate era laws and drag the banksters through a kanagaroo court

Posted by: Benchmark at May 01, 2024 02:31 PM (4J7Zj)

75
Bavarians are cool.

Well, at least the ones I drank with 15 years ago in Rome.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (GBKbO)

One would suppose the Bavarians with which you tipped a stein were not heirs of the Goldman or Sachs families.

Just a guess

Posted by: Just Lily at May 01, 2024 02:31 PM (SQfHd)

76 But now they're realizing that they're not really all that important in the grand scheme of things, just idiots in suits who go on TV and social media to wear the donkey costume and bray like jackasses. So there's probably some impotent panic involved amongst them.

Danton and Marat may have helped light the fire, but that didn't stop Robespierre from throwing them into it.

Well said.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:31 PM (CsUN+)

77 Hands off Sachs.
Posted by: 13times at May 01, 2024 02:28 PM

And on with slacks?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2024 02:31 PM (FAGAJ)

78 Does Mr. Singham ever deign to visit the good ol' U.S. of A. ?

Sure would be nice were he to arrive to a Warm Welcome.

*donates to the AoS Flamenwaffen Fund*

/s

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 01, 2024 02:32 PM (e6UQI)

79 69 It's tempting to see the left as 10' tall. They aren't. They aren't smart enough to bring food to an occupation.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Read history and the only things that commies and socialists (at a slower rate) are good for is to promote death, impoverish the citizenry, and bore people to tears. Passionate stupidity is still stupid.

Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:32 PM (peJ7P)

80 53 But fewer and fewer of them. And more than a few joining just for surgeries to be "their true self" who will be useless in every way other than helping puff enlistment numbers.

Posted by: Bete at May 01, 2024 02:32 PM (LX4y3)

81 It would be nice if you people would pick one opinion and stick with.

Are we DooMed or are we extra DooMed?

Posted by: Outside of Life at May 01, 2024 02:32 PM (89Sog)

82 Have there been any anti-Israel protests at high schools?

Meanwhile: Shooter is 'neutralized' by police after trying to break into Mount Horeb Middle School in Wisconsin, prompting lockdown https://mol.im/a/13372149

Posted by: Ciampino - Somebody served humble pie again! at May 01, 2024 02:32 PM (qfLjt)

83 I think the left has gotten to the point where offending anyone is verboten, even monsters. They are paralyzed so they aren’t saying anything.

Or, they are actually pro terrorists and we are seeing in our own country the rise of nazis. I hope it’s the first part.

Posted by: Piper at May 01, 2024 02:32 PM (ZdaMQ)

84 Strike Goldman Sachs off the Jewish list

Posted by: Skip at May 01, 2024 02:32 PM (fwDg9)

85 Bavarians like to stick to ...traditions...
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2024 02:28 PM

So do we Jews!

Posted by: Tevye at May 01, 2024 02:33 PM (FAGAJ)

86 77 Hey, this ain't the Sunday book thread. Wear or don't wear what you will.

Posted by: Bete at May 01, 2024 02:33 PM (LX4y3)

87 ... Danton and Marat may have helped light the fire, but that didn't stop Robespierre from throwing them into it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (+yhUM)
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It didn't, but I also think that kind of assumption here is premature. The Party is apparently not thrilled with how this op is going, so I suspect they will pull back soon. If they don't - or can't - pull it back, that will change the field rather dramatically.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:33 PM (HnUIn)

88 But Bavarian creme is not really cream. It's pudding.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 02:33 PM (di6C2)

89 Bavarians are cool.

Well, at least the ones I drank with 15 years ago in Rome.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

One word: Dirndls.

That is all.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:33 PM (9yWhg)

90 These radicals are not workers, long-suffering with nothing to lose.

They are the idle, pampered lay-abouts-with everything to lose.
But no less dangerous than the Manson cultists.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2024 02:34 PM (yikga)

91 73 Letting Trump back in is not all downside if they're smart.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (HnUIn)

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I get how it would play out, but I find it hard to believe it would actually work out that way (simply letting the regulatory boot off of the economy did wonders once and could again, not to mention any kind of potential...don't laugh...budget cuts included).

And yet, these people have gone overboard...twice in a row...to cheat out in the open to win. They put up razor wire fence around the Capitol building the first time they did it, and the second time they didn't even need to bother with that.

Why back down? They can manipulate official numbers in every department. They can continue to squeeze centrally everywhere. They can continue to jail dissidents. All they have to do is keep the counting machines on in Philly again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)

92 I think that expecting Donald Trump to actually change much, if he survives and is elected, is wishful thinking at best. Things are a little too broken now.
Posted by: No one of consequence at May 01, 2024 02:29 PM (vcOmj)

Which is why civil war is inevitable.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 01, 2024 02:34 PM (pohLc)

93 85 Bavarians like to stick to ...traditions...
Posted by: runner at May 01, 2024 02:28 PM

So do we Jews!
Posted by: Tevye at May 01, 2024 02:33 PM (FAGAJ)

https://tinyurl.com/27846rmt

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 02:34 PM (di6C2)

94 People's Forum: Hey, Goldman Sachs! I need 12 million dollars to go on a anti-American rampage!

Goldman-Sachs: What? What do you need 6 million dollars for?

People's Forum: No Goldman Sachs! I need 12 million dollars to go on a anti-American rampage!

Goldman-Sachs: Wait, what? What do you need 3 million dollars for? That's a lot of money!

People's Forum: No Goldman Sachs! For the last time I need 12 million dollars to protest The Man!

Goldman-Sachs: You don't need half a million dollars.

Posted by: Jerry Seinfeld at May 01, 2024 02:34 PM (4a+k3)

95 It's hard because ... the more thoughtful approach is the more difficult approach. It's easier to pick a side and start yelling," said another senior House Democrat.
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Translation: There's fine people on both sides.

Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 02:35 PM (h10td)

96 Letting Trump back in is not all downside if they're smart.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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The left in general and in office are not smart unlike their political advisors might be. Leftists always double down until they are destroyed. Then they reform the borg and start anew just changing the labels is all.

Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:35 PM (peJ7P)

97 It’s springtime in Bavaria.

Posted by: 13times at May 01, 2024 02:35 PM (RtCev)

98 You know who else liked Bavaria...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:35 PM (9yWhg)

99 ... Why back down? They can manipulate official numbers in every department. They can continue to squeeze centrally everywhere. They can continue to jail dissidents. All they have to do is keep the counting machines on in Philly again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:34 PM (GBKbO)
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Absolutely, and I suspect that this is the plan. But it is not insane to think that they see Trump-related upsides, the biggest of which are named "Joe Biden" and "The Economy."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:35 PM (HnUIn)

100 69 It's tempting to see the left as 10' tall. They aren't. They aren't smart enough to bring food to an occupation.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (CsUN+)

You don't have to be smart to be vicious.

Posted by: XTC at May 01, 2024 02:35 PM (UnA8+)

101 >>> But Bavarian creme is not really cream. It's pudding.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 02:33 PM (di6C2)

Custard mixed with whipped cream

Posted by: banana Dream at May 01, 2024 02:36 PM (Y6IkP)

102
Letting Trump back in is not all downside if they're smart.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (HnUIn)

They'll get two highs, simultaneously. 1. Riots. 2. Blame Trump for the riots.

Posted by: Gref at May 01, 2024 02:36 PM (5fDan)

103 98 You know who else liked Bavaria...
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:35 PM (9yWhg)

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It's my understanding that Bavarians are the white Christian men of Germany: the only safe butt of any joke, looked down on by everyone else. Bumpkins and hicks who hate the central government in Berlin more than anyone else in the country.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:36 PM (GBKbO)

104 The left in general and in office are not smart unlike their political advisors might be. Leftists always double down until they are destroyed. Then they reform the borg and start anew just changing the labels is all.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:35 PM (peJ7P)
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I'm talking about the actual powers in the Party, not the street warriors or workaday slobs of bureau and legislature.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:36 PM (HnUIn)

105 It didn't, but I also think that kind of assumption here is premature. The Party is apparently not thrilled with how this op is going, so I suspect they will pull back soon. If they don't - or can't - pull it back, that will change the field rather dramatically.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:33 PM (HnUIn)
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Yeah, we don't know if they've reached the point they can no longer control their protesters. I sort of think Democrats have lost control but don't yet realize it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 02:37 PM (tT6L1)

106 When news happens, no one is there. Except for journalist but they only speak dark English.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 01, 2024 02:37 PM (J8LnB)

107 Funding terrorism is a crime, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:15 PM (GBKbO)

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One man's crime is another man's virtue.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 02:37 PM (kzfNo)

108 Trump’s conducting his own vetting process by asking friends, consultants, and insiders whom they think he should pick (for VP) and why. In these discussions, two names consistently rise to the top: Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance.

Rubio has strong support in Trump’s circle of advisers, especially among those with Florida ties. There’s just one problem.

Trump and Rubio are both Florida Men. “Marco has this residency problem,” is how Trump describes it to others.

TRUMP IS STRONGLY CONSIDERING Rubio because he’s keenly aware Rubio is fluent in Spanish, is the only Hispanic on his shortlist, and is attractive to the establishment donors his cash-hungry campaign needs. Rubio grew close to Trump during his presidency and served as a key Latin America adviser shaping Cuba and Venezuela policy. Rubio successfully lobbied Trump to ignore hawkish voices who wanted the president to consider military action in Venezuela against strongman Nicolás Maduro.

THE QUESTION IS HOW BADLY Rubio wants to be Trump’s vice president. Answer: Last week, Rubio aligned himself more closely with Trump, Vance, and the MAGA base by voting against a package to provide military aid to Ukraine...

Posted by: Intercepted The Bulwark Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 01, 2024 02:37 PM (JCZqz)

109 99 Absolutely, and I suspect that this is the plan. But it is not insane to think that they see Trump-related upsides, the biggest of which are named "Joe Biden" and "The Economy."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:35 PM (HnUIn)

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I don't think it's insane to think it.

I just don't see the institutional left operating on those lines. Their model is the CCP, after all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:37 PM (GBKbO)

110 Nothing will happen.

Film at 11.

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies Brigade, plucky comic relief at May 01, 2024 02:38 PM (SRRAx)

111 Yeah, we don't know if they've reached the point they can no longer control their protesters. I sort of think Democrats have lost control but don't yet realize it.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 02:37 PM (tT6L1)
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Time will tell. The Party - *any* "The Party" - has a pretty good track record retaining control. The Nazis decapitated the SA when the time came. The CCP decapitated the Red Guards when the time came. The USSR decapitated the KGB when the time came.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:38 PM (HnUIn)

112 81 Are we DooMed or are we extra DooMed?
Posted by: Outside of Life at May 01, 2024 02:32 PM (89Sog)

We're Duke Nukem 3D'd.

Posted by: XTC at May 01, 2024 02:38 PM (UnA8+)

113 I like donuts is all. A banana Dream is also a pastry. Kind of a cream-filled taco.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 01, 2024 02:38 PM (Y6IkP)

114 Trump announces he supports an amnesty!

For Democrats who denounce Hamas and the campus protests as an evil not fit to live-- those that do can keep their job if he's elected.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2024 02:38 PM (yikga)

115 Yeah, we don't know if they've reached the point they can no longer control their protesters. I sort of think Democrats have lost control but don't yet realize it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 02:37 PM (tT6L1)

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Cannibalism is in the news alot lately ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 02:39 PM (kzfNo)

116 Among the big money, the protestors, and the wide open border*, we are in for a world of hurt.
A lot of normal Americans will die unnatural deaths in the coming weeks, months, and years.

*much overlap to those elements.

Posted by: uniparty, Raping and Mutilating the Children They do not Kill at May 01, 2024 02:39 PM (gxokI)

117 ... Kind of a cream-filled taco.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 01, 2024 02:38 PM (Y6IkP)
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This is a family blog...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:39 PM (HnUIn)

118 I have been saying from the very first days of this that Neville Roy Singham was most likely behind a lot of this. Of note - he doesn't get his money from the middle east, he gets it from the Chinese Communist Party. He doesn't care about Jews or Israel or Palestinians at all - he wants to collapse the USA.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 01, 2024 02:39 PM (i9ffA)

119 Break up Goldman. It's too big !
Posted by: runner

Something like 30% of the chief executives in the Federal government would have to leave their positions for that to happen.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 01, 2024 02:39 PM (IG4Id)

120 Rubio? What the hell?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 02:39 PM (di6C2)

121 "I am grateful to live in country where people can raise their voices (and beat Jewish students up until they have to go to the hospital and yell "Kill the Jews?") Really, Lizzie?. How did you feel about January 6 which was far more peaceful?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2024 02:39 PM (XkYcA)

122 A banana Dream is also a pastry. Kind of a cream-filled taco.
Posted by: banana Dream

So it's a sandwich?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:40 PM (9yWhg)

123 Why back down? They can manipulate official numbers in every department. They can continue to squeeze centrally everywhere. They can continue to jail dissidents. All they have to do is keep the counting machines on in Philly again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Doubling down only delays the inevitable because as a gambler, you lose everything or in politics, you get a generational wipeout.

If you go back the 1890's, massive cheating in northern urban centers was a thing by then for decades. That ended over time because the people that were donating the money to do it stopped. Ditto with Tammany Hall in NYC when LaGuardia won after losing the first time.

Pretty much trying to cheat beyond the population figures in urban areas means trouble this time with an unpopular junta and Trump put Laura in the national GOP in part because the national party can do things in courts that individuals cannot. Ronna's stiffing of lawfare fighting the cheat during her term as RNC chair tells you all you need to know about her perspective.

Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:40 PM (peJ7P)

124 69 It's tempting to see the left as 10' tall. They aren't. They aren't smart enough to bring food to an occupation.
Posted by: Archimedes

And yet, they're winning. Almost non-stop. I can't think of a single 10 year period between 1945 and today where the Left has lost ground, legally or culturally.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at May 01, 2024 02:40 PM (JCZqz)

125 114 Trump announces he supports an amnesty!

For Democrats who denounce Hamas and the campus protests as an evil not fit to live-- those that do can keep their job if he's elected.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 01, 2024 02:38 PM (yikga)

Click Bait comments!

Now all you need is a good thumbnail of a busty brunette.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 02:40 PM (di6C2)

126 122 A banana Dream is also a pastry. Kind of a cream-filled taco.
Posted by: banana Dream

So it's a sandwich?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:40 PM (9yWhg)

For David French.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 02:41 PM (di6C2)

127 Trump’s conducting his own vetting process by asking friends, consultants, and insiders whom they think he should pick (for VP) and why. In these discussions, two names consistently rise to the top: Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance.

Rubio has strong support in Trump’s circle of advisers, especially among those with Florida ties.

Yes on J.D. Vance, and HELL NO on Rubio. I will never forgive him for his amnesty push. Never. I mean, if he'd shot a dog...

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:41 PM (CsUN+)

128 100 69 It's tempting to see the left as 10' tall. They aren't. They aren't smart enough to bring food to an occupation.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (CsUN+)

You don't have to be smart to be vicious.
Posted by: XTC at May 01, 2024 02:35 PM (UnA8+).

It's not a matter of smarts. This is a well-funded effort with reasonable logistics. They have uniform tents etc. So if they don't have food, that's a decision consciously made, and you should ask why. The why is that it allows them to crybully, asserting that they're being retaliated against for protesting and paint others as the bad guys, all while actually having access to food anyway.

Posted by: The protestors may be dumb, the people organizing them are not at May 01, 2024 02:41 PM (CJNps)

129 121 Really, Lizzie?. How did you feel about January 6 which was far more peaceful?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01

What?!? AOC died! And right before she died she was almost assaulted, and she dies every time she has to recall the events of her death!

Posted by: Piper at May 01, 2024 02:41 PM (ZdaMQ)

130 Laws don't matter if they are not enforced.

Vigilantism is on the horizon.

Take a peak at the UCLA counter protesters. The reporters incredulous disbelief that LE is nowhere to be seen while they beat on the Hamas idiots is a precursor to significantly more extreme violence. It's coming and the Leftards will wonder aloud how it happened.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * fat free comments available at May 01, 2024 02:41 PM (3OJZ3)

131 120 Rubio? What the hell?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 02:39 PM (di6C2)

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It could be a good move regarding makeup of the Senate, replacing him with someone more DeSantis-like.

I've long advocated for a Republican president to bring in as many squishy/oppositional Senators as possible to an administration, work with the governors to get solid replacements more in line with your own politics, and then fire all of those in your cabinet. Granted, this doesn't entirely apply to the VP spot (can't fire him), but the rest could.

It would, of course, only work one time, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:41 PM (GBKbO)

132 I am watching Trump give his speech and interact with the crowd, Something senile old joe could never do.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2024 02:42 PM (SHAib)

133 111 Time will tell. The Party - *any* "The Party" - has a pretty good track record retaining control. The Nazis decapitated the SA when the time came. The CCP decapitated the Red Guards when the time came. The USSR decapitated the KGB when the time came.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:38 PM (HnUIn)

How many of those were bolstered by foreign funds?

Posted by: XTC at May 01, 2024 02:42 PM (UnA8+)

134 It would, of course, only work one time, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:41 PM (GBKbO)

Squishy, like Pence squishy? How did that work out?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 02:42 PM (di6C2)

135 123 Pretty much trying to cheat beyond the population figures in urban areas means trouble this time with an unpopular junta and Trump put Laura in the national GOP in part because the national party can do things in courts that individuals cannot. Ronna's stiffing of lawfare fighting the cheat during her term as RNC chair tells you all you need to know about her perspective.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:40 PM (peJ7P)

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I fully predict a cheat at levels that are simply unbelievable.

I do not have a prediction for what comes after that, though.

When Philly reports 110% turnout, what happens? No idea, but I'd lean towards: the rest of PA just accepts it as normal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:43 PM (GBKbO)

136 His speech is the typical crap, but his interaction with the crowd is special.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2024 02:43 PM (SHAib)

137 Click Bait comments!

Now all you need is a good thumbnail of a busty brunette.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

We have plenty of busty brunettes posted. If you've got clickbait going anyway, why not insert some diverse, alternative beauty into the thread...

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at May 01, 2024 02:43 PM (JCZqz)

138 How many of those were bolstered by foreign funds?
Posted by: XTC at May 01, 2024 02:42 PM (UnA8+)
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Red China and the DPRK certainly have been from time to time. I don't remember the status of CCP/CPUSSR relations immediately post-Mao, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:43 PM (HnUIn)

139 Yes on J.D. Vance, and HELL NO on Rubio. I will never forgive him for his amnesty push. Never. I mean, if he'd shot a dog...
Posted by: Archimedes

Even worse, he drank water on TV!!!!!!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:43 PM (9yWhg)

140 134 It would, of course, only work one time, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:41 PM (GBKbO)

Squishy, like Pence squishy? How did that work out?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 02:42 PM (di6C2)

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Well, to be fair, if you only let the VP do his constitutional duties, you limit the damage. Don't put him in charge of election integrity. Make him go to the Senate everyday and read the newspaper.

The strategy is more around the cabinet, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:44 PM (GBKbO)

141 I fully predict a cheat at levels that are simply unbelievable.

I do not have a prediction for what comes after that, though.

When Philly reports 110% turnout, what happens? No idea, but I'd lean towards: the rest of PA just accepts it as normal.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:43 PM (GBKbO)

Better to remain silent and ensure subjugation through stolen elections than to speak and remove all doubt that you're a racist.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 02:44 PM (KbCG3)

142 135 123 Pretty much trying to cheat beyond the population figures in urban areas means trouble this time with an unpopular junta and Trump put Laura in the national GOP in part because the national party can do things in courts that individuals cannot. Ronna's stiffing of lawfare fighting the cheat during her term as RNC chair tells you all you need to know about her perspective.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:40 PM (peJ7P)

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I fully predict a cheat at levels that are simply unbelievable.

I do not have a prediction for what comes after that, though.

When Philly reports 110% turnout, what happens? No idea, but I'd lean towards: the rest of PA just accepts it as normal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:43 PM (GBKbO)
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Didn't Philly already report 110% or close to it in 2020? I think we'll be lucky if it's only 110%. I thinking 130+

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 02:44 PM (iFTx/)

143 Cute lemon slice.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 01, 2024 02:45 PM (w6EFb)

144 The reporters incredulous disbelief that LE is nowhere to be seen while they beat on the Hamas idiots is a precursor to significantly more extreme violence. It's coming and the Leftards will wonder aloud how it happened.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * fat free comments available at May 01, 2024 02:41 PM (3OJZ3)

Them UCLA fellas beating on the hamas brats gave me a stiffy.

More please...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 01, 2024 02:45 PM (4a+k3)

145 Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2024 02:42 PM (SHAib)

Where is that online, NGU?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2024 02:45 PM (XkYcA)

146 "Don't they know they're losing pro-Israel Jewish Democrats!" Yes. Duh. That's the point. This is a major leg of the party stool, and the radicals intend to cut it away.
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Just as a tangential aside, and not to distract from the real point, but I bet that doesn't even happen; Jewish voters will still vote for the Junta, out of pure habit.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 02:46 PM (izFTT)

147 Cute lemon slice.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 01, 2024 02:45 PM (w6EFb)
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Jane has a long mustache. Repeat, Jane has a long mustache.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (tT6L1) at May 01, 2024 02:46 PM (tT6L1)

148 OT: Gotta love when a college sends out a "we haven't had problems so far, and we aren't going to in the future" email to its entire student body today...re-iterating the memo from 6 months ago...

Guess the GW campus might be getting close to getting tossed out and this is GMU's "and you ain't comin' here" email...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 02:46 PM (exHjb)

149 Well, to be fair, if you only let the VP do his constitutional duties, you limit the damage. Don't put him in charge of election integrity. Make him go to the Senate everyday and read the newspaper.

The strategy is more around the cabinet, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Out: Reading a newspaper on the Senate floor
In: Watching PronHub and OnlyFans on the Senate floor

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:46 PM (9yWhg)

150 Cut off the funds, cut off the arts and crafts supplies, unleash the dogs in the prosecutor's offices, get the media minions in the bullshit industrial complex to play ball, and these "protests" would evaporate in a matter of days.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 02:46 PM (+yhUM)

151 Didn't Philly already report 110% or close to it in 2020? I think we'll be lucky if it's only 110%. I thinking 130+

The answer is at the top of the comment. Ronna is gone. Her replacements are focused on election integrity. I'm not sure why some insist nothing has changed.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:47 PM (CsUN+)

152 LOL I have never seen a single story about what Trump is saying or doing that is not from a Trump himself be true. Not once.

It's not like the guy is particularly secretive or evasive. But yet everyone takes the anonymous reports seriously.

Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 02:47 PM (h10td)

153 Arrest and prosecute George Soros for anything they could possibly throw at him save for anything related to this.

It would send a message.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Simply deport him to any of the various countries that he has screwed over. Hungary's Orban, for example, would gladly accept the asshole to try and send to prison for what Soros did there. Thailand, likewise, has a bone to pick with him.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:30 PM (peJ7P)

Didn't Indonesia sentence him to death in absentia?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 01, 2024 02:47 PM (aD39U)

154 I'm talking about the actual powers in the Party, not the street warriors or workaday slobs of bureau and legislature.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

The Dem donors after Kerry's loss decided to create their own organizations outside the party structure. Arabella's dark money operations now dwarf the amount spent by the official party operations of teh DNC and congressional committees. That is the new power base of teh Dems and that is run in the interests by the donors that created the dark money machine.

Someone like Zuckerberg or Bloomberg is far more important to the rank and file nowadays than the official party apparatus is. In a sense, the Dem and GOP parties have flipped where the wealthy by and large are trending Dem while the GOP voters are desperate to simply stop the destruction of their lives, property, and freedom. The officeholders of the GOP haven't learned that yet that unlike squashing the Tea Party, McConnell ain't gonna win this one. His time has passed and the GOP either has to change or die. Right now, they seem to be heading toward death because the party in office is failing the test of events of the day.

Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:47 PM (peJ7P)

155 146 Just as a tangential aside, and not to distract from the real point, but I bet that doesn't even happen; Jewish voters will still vote for the Junta, out of pure habit.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 02:46 PM (izFTT)

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The 60-70% of Jews who vote Democrat every election aren't Democrats because of past support of Israel or whatever.

They're Democrats because they're Democrats. It's as much a cultural thing as it is about any point of policy.

It's hard to change that. Most people never change. There are still New Deal Democrats in the Midwest who will vote for someone like Sherrod Brown even though they hate everything he actually helps pass.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:47 PM (GBKbO)

156 When I see people like Warren, I still cannot believe that we can even manage to cobble together a military of any stature.

That there are still people willing to die for this country is simply...I don't know. We're blessed to have them. We don't deserve them.

But I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would risk it all in the name of these people.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (KbCG3)

Is our military any good anymore? Afghanistan was a debacle. Our backing of Ukraine before the war led to an army we spent 8 years building being destroyed in months. The Offensive we designed and planned and trained the men for was shot to tatters because they moved through a minefield in single file on a road and were routinely ambushed.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 02:47 PM (eoQWY)

157 Yes, the banana taco. The banana luxuriates. Banana. Creme. More banana. Banana to infinity and beyond. So much banana. Too much banana. You cannot handle banana.

Posted by: Banana at May 01, 2024 02:48 PM (CJNps)

158 Didn't Indonesia sentence him to death in absentia?
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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Some Asian country did when he destroyed their currency like many others in Asia such as Thailand during the late 90's.

Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:48 PM (peJ7P)

159 In 2012, there was a Philly precinct that had 117% turnout.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 01, 2024 02:48 PM (R4t5M)

160 What should happen to Goldman Sachs, then?
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Why should anything happen to them? GS didn't try to interfere with the theft of an election, did they?

Posted by: Eeyore at May 01, 2024 02:48 PM (1bNHn)

161 PSA - Sands of Iwo Jima on pluto tv - PSA

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 02:48 PM (hF4JZ)

162 On the bright side for Democrats, if the Palestinians in their party get their way, Jews will never be able to vote Republican again. In fact they will be the most reliable bloc.

Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 02:48 PM (h10td)

163 The largest contributors to many of these left-wing causes, especially on college campuses has been Jewish Democrats. I guess it was hard to predict their Marxist foot soldiers would go full antisemite. Even now Goldman Sachs is just a laundering operation for those contributors, which gives them plausible deniability.

Posted by: Truthbomb at May 01, 2024 02:48 PM (pmB3q)

164 Where is that online, NGU?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2024 02:45 PM (XkYcA)

Fox News

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2024 02:48 PM (SHAib)

165 Out: Reading a newspaper on the Senate floor
In: Watching PronHub and OnlyFans on the Senate floor
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:46 PM (9yWhg)
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There's little practical difference, and hasn't been for quite some time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:49 PM (HnUIn)

166 127 Trump’s conducting his own vetting process by asking friends, consultants, and insiders whom they think he should pick (for VP) and why. In these discussions, two names consistently rise to the top: Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance.

I love Vance... Rubio ? Meh

Posted by: It's me donna at May 01, 2024 02:49 PM (Akjoo)

167 Too much banana. You cannot handle banana.

Preach it, brother.

Posted by: The tailpipe at May 01, 2024 02:49 PM (CsUN+)

168 151 Didn't Philly already report 110% or close to it in 2020? I think we'll be lucky if it's only 110%. I thinking 130+

The answer is at the top of the comment. Ronna is gone. Her replacements are focused on election integrity. I'm not sure why some insist nothing has changed.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:47 PM (CsUN+)

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Until there are actual changes in how states and cities run elections, I'm deeply skeptical that this time, the RNC will be able to convince a court to actually do anything or that a city will follow court orders.

Remember, in 2020, PA was ordered (ORDERED) by Alito to not mix up mail in ballots with and without dates. PA did it anyway, and there was no reaction to it.

So, don't act like skepticism is somehow untoward or uncalled for at this point.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:49 PM (GBKbO)

169 Wow. The Kyle Shideler guy sounds super-smart.

Posted by: m at May 01, 2024 02:49 PM (o3SCB)

170 Some Asian country did when he destroyed their currency like many others in Asia such as Thailand during the late 90's.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:48 PM (peJ7P)

Malaysia, I think.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 01, 2024 02:49 PM (R4t5M)

171 If there was only an opposition party to point out to middle class Dems that they are electing hardcore Marxists who will end up killing them and enslaving their children. If only

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 01, 2024 02:49 PM (JfVRc)

172 Trump is also on Newsmax

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 01, 2024 02:49 PM (SHAib)

173 155 They're Democrats because they're Democrats. It's as much a cultural thing as it is about any point of policy.

It's hard to change that. Most people never change. There are still New Deal Democrats in the Midwest who will vote for someone like Sherrod Brown even though they hate everything he actually helps pass.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:47 PM (GBKbO)

It's distressing how often someone who sees the Left go crazy ends up saying something like "I just want the Democrats to be the good guys again.", because voting any other way is just that alien to them.

Posted by: XTC at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM (UnA8+)

174 159 In 2012, there was a Philly precinct that had 117% turnout.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at May 01, 2024 02:48 PM (R4t5M)

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"Asking questions about this is racism."
-The PA GOP

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM (GBKbO)

175 151 Didn't Philly already report 110% or close to it in 2020? I think we'll be lucky if it's only 110%. I thinking 130+

The answer is at the top of the comment. Ronna is gone. Her replacements are focused on election integrity. I'm not sure why some insist nothing has changed.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:47 PM (CsUN+)

They also need to focus on election turnout...some big money should be heading Pressler's way to help with that...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM (exHjb)

176 Didn't Indonesia sentence him to death in absentia?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 01, 2024 02:47 PM (aD39U)

The flight to Absentia is a bitch.

Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM (h10td)

177 Just as a tangential aside, and not to distract from the real point, but I bet that doesn't even happen; Jewish voters will still vote for the Junta, out of pure habit.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 02:46 PM (izFTT)

Wouldn't matter if they did flip. The Ds have those districts locked down and can manufacture compensating votes at will.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM (eoQWY)

178 Funny how all the focus on Blackrock almost made me forget how evil Goldman Sachs is.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM (wBaIH)

179 166 127 Trump’s conducting his own vetting process by asking friends, consultants, and insiders whom they think he should pick (for VP) and why. In these discussions, two names consistently rise to the top: Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance.

I love Vance... Rubio ? Meh
Posted by: It's me donna at May 01, 2024 02:49 PM (Akjoo)

Vance because Ohio… Florida is in the bag.

Posted by: tubal at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM (PCK5/)

180 So, don't act like skepticism is somehow untoward or uncalled for at this point.

You aren't the boss of me.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM (CsUN+)

181 This brunette in a dress knows that the IRS won't be going after lefty orgs in good standing:
http://tiny.cc/i6uwxz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:51 PM (HnUIn)

182 180 So, don't act like skepticism is somehow untoward or uncalled for at this point.

You aren't the boss of me.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM (CsUN+)

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YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!!!

(I thought that was in the style guide?)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:51 PM (GBKbO)

183 Vigilantism is on the horizon.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * fat free comments available at May 01, 2024 02:41 PM (3OJZ3)
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"Try That in a Small Town" is going to prove far more prescient than Jason Aldean probably anticipated.

The cities will, as usual, burn. Some of these idiots will invariably start thinking they're hot shit and try to take their Antifa/Kill the Jews shit to more rural areas. These actions will fall under the Fuck Around, Find Out doctrine.

Posted by: ballistic at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (oqH4h)

184 177 Just as a tangential aside, and not to distract from the real point, but I bet that doesn't even happen; Jewish voters will still vote for the Junta, out of pure habit.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 02:46 PM (izFTT)

Wouldn't matter if they did flip. The Ds have those districts locked down and can manufacture compensating votes at will.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM (eoQWY)

Only if they know they are flipping. All Jews should keep a D registration and vote straight R...it will mess up the "cheat to win" count and this is how you win - see Trump 2016...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (exHjb)

185 I thought absentia was illegal in the US because it makes you crazy if you drink too much of it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (9yWhg)

186 "Is our military any good anymore? Afghanistan was a debacle"

Only largely because of civilian leadership and especially DoS. We had the war won, twice.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (n4fLp)

187 YOU'RE NOT MY SUPERVISOR!!!

(I thought that was in the style guide?)

I'm a maverick, what can I say?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (CsUN+)

188 152 LOL I have never seen a single story about what Trump is saying or doing that is not from a Trump himself be true. Not once.
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I shan't believe The Bulwark, and anonymous sources reporting to it, would be lying to the public! Unpossible!

Posted by: Intercepted The Bulwark Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (JCZqz)

189 @135

>>I fully predict a cheat at levels that are simply unbelievable.

Insane levels of cheating absolutely, but I just think the Donks and their voters simply want it more.

Case in point, there was a special election in NY to fill a vacant house seat, it was a lean Donk district so it was more than likely going to go to the Donk, polling showed around a 9pct win for the Donk, he ended up winning by 36pct.

And as I've noted, Biden got nearly a million votes in a pointless primary in Pa, Trump got fewer than 800k.

Again, the Donks want it more.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (XV/Pl)

190 I'm a maverick, what can I say?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (CsUN+)
++++
You're John McCain?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (HnUIn)

191 183 The cities will, as usual, burn. Some of these idiots will invariably start thinking they're hot shit and try to take their Antifa/Kill the Jews shit to more rural areas. These actions will fall under the Fuck Around, Find Out doctrine.
Posted by: ballistic at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (oqH4h)

No, they won't.

They aren't going to go where they don't have the explicit protection of Law Enforcement.

Posted by: XTC at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (UnA8+)

192 5 states will determine the outcome anyway.

Posted by: tubal at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (PCK5/)

193 There's little practical difference, and hasn't been for quite some time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:49 PM (HnUIn)

Far fewer blowjobs and buttfuckin on pr0nhub.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (+yhUM)

194 Maybe we could fuse Rubio and Vance together as some sort of post-birth conjoined homunculus. Marco could focus on staying hydrated while J.D. focuses on policy. Win-win.

Posted by: I shouldn't have to come up with all the solutions, guys at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (CJNps)

195 185 I thought absentia was illegal in the US because it makes you crazy if you drink too much of it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (9yWhg)

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I think it was woodworm that was illegal, which is a key ingredient to absinthe.

But that changed over a decade ago.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (GBKbO)

196 185 I thought absentia was illegal in the US because it makes you crazy if you drink too much of it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (9yWhg)

Tell me about it

Posted by: Toulouse at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (Akjoo)

197 *** Los Santos praised Columbia students for "decid[ing] that resistance is more important than negotiations," and urged those assembled at the People's Forum to "support our students so that the encampments can go for as long as they can."***
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He's right. You want to be top dog, as you walk down the hall punch anyone that comes within range. Ask a Democrat.

MTG's a bad girl, she wants to subordinate the Democrats.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (lCWOD)

198 The flight to Absentia is a bitch.
Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM

It's the layover in Atlanta.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (FAGAJ)

199 179 166 127 Trump’s conducting his own vetting process by asking friends, consultants, and insiders whom they think he should pick (for VP) and why. In these discussions, two names consistently rise to the top: Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance.

I love Vance... Rubio ? Meh
Posted by: It's me donna at May 01, 2024 02:49 PM (Akjoo)

Vance because Ohio… Florida is in the bag.
Posted by: tubal at May 01, 2024 02:50 PM (PCK5/)

If he wants to win, he picks Kemp...b/c that puts GA in the bag, and GA is a must win...it also brings NC with it (another must win).

I hate Kemp, but if Trump is planning on being full pragmatic, that's the play...ala Reagan and Bush's hatred of each other, but still being a ticket...

PS - I hope Trump does NOT go full pragmatic...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 02:54 PM (exHjb)

200 200

Posted by: m at May 01, 2024 02:54 PM (o3SCB)

201 189 Case in point, there was a special election in NY to fill a vacant house seat, it was a lean Donk district so it was more than likely going to go to the Donk, polling showed around a 9pct win for the Donk, he ended up winning by 36pct.

And as I've noted, Biden got nearly a million votes in a pointless primary in Pa, Trump got fewer than 800k.

Again, the Donks want it more.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (XV/Pl)

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Special elections and primaries are simply not predictive of general election results.

Never have been. Never will be. They're not suddenly becoming now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:54 PM (GBKbO)

202 Funding terrorism is a crime, right?

Depends - did you allocate 10% for the big guy?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2024 02:54 PM (ibTVg)

203 190 I'm a maverick, what can I say?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (CsUN+)
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You're John McCain?

Hey. Hey. Hey! Not while the funeral's still going on.

Posted by: m at May 01, 2024 02:54 PM (o3SCB)

204 186 "Is our military any good anymore? Afghanistan was a debacle"

Only largely because of civilian leadership and especially DoS. We had the war won, twice.
Posted by: Marcus T

If our civilian leadership declared actual war on a nation, and unleashed the military fully...we'd absolutely wreck any nation on the planet. The odds of us doing that, even if China invaded Taiwan, are nil.

Posted by: Military Moron at May 01, 2024 02:54 PM (JCZqz)

205 181 This brunette in a dress knows that the IRS won't be going after lefty orgs in good standing:
http://tiny.cc/i6uwxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:51 PM (HnUIn)
_______

Very odd location for a THOT pose, regardless whether that was the actual photo location or she was shopped in. Verdict: Unbangable.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 02:54 PM (iFTx/)

206 Maybe we could fuse Rubio and Vance together as some sort of post-birth conjoined homunculus. Marco could focus on staying hydrated while J.D. focuses on policy. Win-win.
Posted by: I shouldn't have to come up with all the solutions, guys at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (CJNps)

Off my lawn, bitch.

Posted by: Fettermonster and Lump at May 01, 2024 02:54 PM (R4t5M)

207 Hey. Hey. Hey! Not while the funeral's still going on.
Posted by: m at May 01, 2024 02:54 PM (o3SCB)
++++
*snort*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:55 PM (HnUIn)

208 I think it was woodworm that was illegal, which is a key ingredient to absinthe.

But that changed over a decade ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Yes, I know. The manager of my local liquor store explained the whole thing to me.

But, the purposes of the pun take precedence over truth.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:55 PM (9yWhg)

209 Biden's "Daily Presidential Schedule" is a laugh riot. Most days he mosies into the office around ten, has a briefing, and that's his day. Lately, he might attend an evening campaign function for 20 minutes or so. But that's it.

While colleges burn this week, he hasn't changed his schedule at all, except to decline all interviews.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 01, 2024 02:55 PM (Yawo6)

210 Wormwood…

Posted by: tubal at May 01, 2024 02:55 PM (PCK5/)

211 208 Yes, I know. The manager of my local liquor store explained the whole thing to me.

But, the purposes of the pun take precedence over truth.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:55 PM (9yWhg)

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May the Blessings of the Pun Almighty, and the Fellowship of the Holy Limerick, descend upon us all. This day and forever more. The heavens declare the glory of the Pun, and the firmament showeth His handiwork.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:56 PM (GBKbO)

212 No, they won't.

They aren't going to go where they don't have the explicit protection of Law Enforcement.
Posted by: XTC at May 01, 2024 02:53 PM (UnA8+)

Yup. Antifa got its butt kicked in Berkeley and even Portland. Even after the cops disarmed the Americans and not the Antifa. Then Portland stopped letting opposition show up.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 02:56 PM (eoQWY)

213 When Philly reports 110% turnout, what happens? No idea, but I'd lean towards: the rest of PA just accepts it as normal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Caselaw in most states requires a do over election when the number of contested votes exceeds the margin of victory. The recent decision by the Third Circuit makes it harder to do what Philly and Pittsburg did which was manufacture votes after the election. Gotta have dates on the ballots now.

Simply put, it is one thing to cheat out a relatively controversial prezzie in 2020 after he blundered into the Covid minefield but quite another where mail in ballots access has been rolled back in some states (in person fraud is harder by far to pull off), there is now a group of trained auditors for post election that will be able to zoom in on photocopying ballots, running them through multiple times, etc.

They do that shit again in 2024 for an unpopular regime is likely to end that regime one way or another during bad times. Win or lose, I predict a hot time around election time this fall and winter. Prepare now for disruptions in almost everything.

Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:56 PM (peJ7P)

214 The cities will, as usual, burn. Some of these idiots will invariably start thinking they're hot shit and try to take their Antifa/Kill the Jews shit to more rural areas. These actions will fall under the Fuck Around, Find Out doctrine.
Posted by: ballistic at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM

FAFO would be a cromulent replacement for "Fire" on a weapon's receiver.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 01, 2024 02:56 PM (FAGAJ)

215 The question with Kemp is was he bribed on to the NT team or was he threatened (look at what happened to his staffer).

The latter could be forgiveable, though it would make you wonder about his courage, but not the former.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2024 02:56 PM (ibTVg)

216 Even worse, he drank water on TV!!!!!!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:43 PM (9yWhg)

Rubio's a water addict, he can't go for long without the stuff.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at May 01, 2024 02:56 PM (w6EFb)

217 On the day after Benghazi, Obama campaigned in Vegas.

It's not even Biden's age. This is how Democrats roll.

Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 02:56 PM (h10td)

218 But I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would risk it all in the name of these people.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 02:27 PM (KbCG3)

Is our military any good anymore? Afghanistan was a debacle. Our backing of Ukraine before the war led to an army we spent 8 years building being destroyed in months. The Offensive we designed and planned and trained the men for was shot to tatters because they moved through a minefield in single file on a road and were routinely ambushed.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 01, 2024 02:47 PM (eoQWY)

Not about being good or bad. It's that there are everyday men and women still willing to step into that void.

Made all the more remarkable by exactly what you said.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 02:56 PM (KbCG3)

219 Wormwood…
Posted by: tuba

It's better than woodworm. That's one parasite you DO NOT want to have.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:57 PM (9yWhg)

220 Higgins district in Western NY is not a "lean Dem district". It's a safe Dem district. Having said that the Republicans did nothing to win

Posted by: Smell the Glove at May 01, 2024 02:57 PM (JfVRc)

221 211 The heavens declare the glory of the Pun, and the firmament showeth His handiwork.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:56 PM (GBKbO)

Like, for example, the constellation of Pisces.

Posted by: m at May 01, 2024 02:57 PM (o3SCB)

222 Bangability rating: 7.653/10.

Posted by: Who am I kidding at May 01, 2024 02:57 PM (rJlPI)

223 213 Simply put, it is one thing to cheat out a relatively controversial prezzie in 2020 after he blundered into the Covid minefield but quite another where mail in ballots access has been rolled back in some states (in person fraud is harder by far to pull off), there is now a group of trained auditors for post election that will be able to zoom in on photocopying ballots, running them through multiple times, etc.

They do that shit again in 2024 for an unpopular regime is likely to end that regime one way or another during bad times. Win or lose, I predict a hot time around election time this fall and winter. Prepare now for disruptions in almost everything.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:56 PM (peJ7P)

========

Caselaw is entirely on our side.

You know what's not on our side?

The entire judicial system that allowed an election to be stolen out in the open to the point where they outright dismissed cases without hearing evidence.

My skepticism is *reaches very high*.

I'd love to be wrong, though. Love it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:57 PM (GBKbO)

224 191 183 The cities will, as usual, burn. Some of these idiots will invariably start thinking they're hot shit and try to take their Antifa/Kill the Jews shit to more rural areas. These actions will fall under the Fuck Around, Find Out doctrine.
Posted by: ballistic at May 01, 2024 02:52 PM (oqH4h)

No, they won't.

They aren't going to go where they don't have the explicit protection of Law Enforcement.
Posted by: XTC
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Right, they are under direction of Soros section leaders. Section leaders provide training and assistance. Despite appearance they don't veer too far away from the given program.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 02:57 PM (lCWOD)

225 @201

>>Special elections and primaries are simply not predictive of general election results. Never have been. Never will be. They're not suddenly becoming now.

I'm not a Poll Nerd, so I'll have to accept what you are saying, but who seems more energized and enthusiastic about elections? Who's already got their street muscle out on the streets?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2024 02:58 PM (XV/Pl)

226 Wormwood…
Posted by: tubal at May 01, 2024 02:55 PM (PCK5/)

I never liked her.

Posted by: Calvin at May 01, 2024 02:58 PM (OguvZ)

227 Rubio's a water addict, he can't go for long without the stuff.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist

Yeah, I hear he can only go about three days, tops.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:58 PM (9yWhg)

228 225
I'm not a Poll Nerd, so I'll have to accept what you are saying, but who seems more energized and enthusiastic about elections? Who's already got their street muscle out on the streets?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 01, 2024 02:58 PM (XV/Pl)

======

Since the left is paying for its protestors, I'm not sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 02:58 PM (GBKbO)

229 The US Military has the best equipment in the world, and just about the worst leadership.

And honestly the latter matters a lot more then the former.

Perhaps it is for the best though since the US military is more likely to be used against the American people then any foreign adversary at this point.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2024 02:58 PM (ibTVg)

230 I actually don't think at this point that the coordination by the Democrat party and NGOs/dark money to cheat their way to victory in this election is a shoe in that will lead them to "victory". A long hot Summer awaits this nation and we may see some very interesting events. Even dullards are moved in to action when their own small worlds are rocked by events and their own & family's welfare/survival is on the line.

Posted by: Cheri at May 01, 2024 02:59 PM (oiNtH)

231 "If our civilian leadership declared actual war on a nation, and unleashed the military fully."

Unless you have a strong executive with the balls to really win by using the military to its fullest capabilities, and whom have no shit about "winning the peace" we would never win. We executed all the missions asked of us in the last 20 years or so. And every time we "won", state and a weak executive leadership including W, three it away with feckless bureaucrats. A lot of my friends and brothers that got planted because they people are stupid dangerous assholes, and we're seeing it again in Gaza and Ukraine. They need to be killed with fire.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 01, 2024 02:59 PM (n4fLp)

232 You can go the rest of your life without breathing.

Posted by: It's a fact at May 01, 2024 02:59 PM (rJlPI)

233 Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:56 PM (peJ7P)

Republicans are always fighting the last war.

This is likely why they have spent the last three years importing millions of new "voters" and are energizing turnout by running RFK.

More actual votes and registrations equals more votes to fake.

Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 02:59 PM (h10td)

234 Wow.. Markets up again... Must have promised rate cuts because the economy is sooooo good

Posted by: Toulouse at May 01, 2024 02:59 PM (Akjoo)

235 If he wants to win, he picks Kemp...b/c that puts GA in the bag, and GA is a must win...it also brings NC with it (another must win).

I hate Kemp, but if Trump is planning on being full pragmatic, that's the play...ala Reagan and Bush's hatred of each other, but still being a ticket...

PS - I hope Trump does NOT go full pragmatic...
Posted by: Nova Local
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It will not be Kemp who is a loathsome WEF corrupt fuck that the GOPe will promptly try to center resistance to Trump around in his own party. He would be worse than Pence and that is saying something.

Kemp brings nothing to the table and everything to the downside and is pretty disliked btw in Georgia among the GOP rank and file. He has pullled too much shit over the years including very probably cheating himself into the governor's chair in 2018.

I can give you song and verse how he is a truly shitty person as well as a pol but the gray boxes only allow so much to be put in them.

Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:59 PM (peJ7P)

236 208 I think it was woodworm that was illegal, which is a key ingredient to absinthe.

But that changed over a decade ago.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Yes, I know. The manager of my local liquor store explained the whole thing to me.

But, the purposes of the pun take precedence over truth.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:55 PM (9yWhg)
___________

Wormword. Yes, very illegal. Dangerous hallucinatory drug with documented suicidal episodes. There's some speculation that at least some of those suicides by writers and artists in the late 1800s and early 1900s were caused by wormwood/absinthe. The "green fairy" was a very popular drink among these types back then.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 03:00 PM (iFTx/)

237 "In the same way that "abolish the police" became a mainstream Democrat "Defund the police" on the backs of riots, the Democrat position on Israel has moved to what would have been previously unthinkable. And they will continue to move leftward."

Give the Leftists credit. At least the Dems were able to reduce funding on a government program. The Republicans can't even vote to defund Big Bird. In fact, I can't think of a *single* program that the Republicans have ever cut, reduced, or eliminated in my lifetime.

If the Dems can defund the police, the Republicans can at least roll back government spending to pre-COVID levels, in theory. We know, however, that they can't do even that.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 01, 2024 03:00 PM (6EX6n)

238 >>>Goldman Sachs

GoldMAN. Needs more wimmens.

Posted by: m at May 01, 2024 03:00 PM (o3SCB)

239 Some of these idiots will invariably start thinking they're hot shit and try to take their Antifa/Kill the Jews shit to more rural areas. These actions will fall under the Fuck Around, Find Out doctrine.
Posted by: ballistic

In general I think most are cowards. I anticipate actions more along the lines of Antifa in Oregon playing the arson game. They start that crap and the mentality in my neck of the woods will be shoot first, maby ask questions later or maby not.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * fat free comments available at May 01, 2024 03:00 PM (3OJZ3)

240 It's better than woodworm. That's one parasite you DO NOT want to have.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:57 PM

I know, right?

Posted by: Pinocchio at May 01, 2024 03:01 PM (FAGAJ)

241 Rubio's a water addict, he can't go for long without the stuff.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist

From a muddy hoofprint ?

Posted by: JT at May 01, 2024 03:01 PM (T4tVD)

242 I'm not a Poll Nerd, so I'll have to accept what you are saying, but who seems more energized and enthusiastic about elections? Who's already got their street muscle out on the streets?

Two different questions. From what I've seen in the polling, the right is FAR more energized than the left, who are, in a word, dispirited. They know Biden is a flaming dumpster, but they're stuck with him, at least until the Dems implement Plan Torricelli. The street muscle isn't under the control of the Dems; they're just trying not to be to badly hurt by the radical's antics.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:01 PM (CsUN+)

243 The Republicans can't even vote to defund Big Bird. In fact, I can't think of a *single* program that the Republicans have ever cut, reduced, or eliminated in my lifetime.

Last time the Republicans cut any budget was welfare reform in the 90s.

Of course that's before Denis Hastert turned them into the GOPe.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 01, 2024 03:01 PM (ibTVg)

244 That's gold, Jerry! Gold!

Posted by: Banya at May 01, 2024 03:01 PM (rJlPI)

245 Wormword. Yes, very illegal. Dangerous hallucinatory drug with documented suicidal episodes. There's some speculation that at least some of those suicides by writers and artists in the late 1800s and early 1900s were caused by wormwood/absinthe. The "green fairy" was a very popular drink among these types back then.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Now that they make absinthe without the wormwood, it's legal again.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 03:01 PM (9yWhg)

246 Vance because Ohio… Florida is in the bag.
Posted by: tubal

Ohio went for Donald Trump by 9 or 10 percent in both 2016 and 2020. Ohio is, outside of some parts of large cities, very hard-core Trump. There are Trump signs up in my neighborhood. Some from 2020, some new ones.
There was a BIG banner on someone's lawn in 2020..."Donald Trump, Please Save our Country".
Plus, the really hard-core Biden hate. More than a few signs up in public that say "F*ck Biden".
Trump doesn't need Vance to carry Ohio. I would rather he pick someone else, because I think Vance is doing a great job as Ohio's "junior" Senator.
Now, we just have to vote out Shithead Brown.

Posted by: No one of consequence at May 01, 2024 03:02 PM (vcOmj)

247 I hate Kemp, but if Trump is planning on being full pragmatic, that's the play...ala Reagan and Bush's hatred of each other, but still being a ticket...
PS - I hope Trump does NOT go full pragmatic...
Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 02:54 PM (exHjb)

Reporting for duty! Pale, flabby and in bred.

Please clap!

Posted by: Jeb!, Inbred And Loving It at May 01, 2024 03:02 PM (4a+k3)

248 But, isn't vermouth made from wormwood? I think the two words are connected etymologically.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 03:02 PM (9yWhg)

249 Wormword.

My husband always called dry vermouth wormwood

Posted by: it's me donna at May 01, 2024 03:02 PM (Akjoo)

250 250

Posted by: m at May 01, 2024 03:03 PM (o3SCB)

251 It will not be Kemp who is a loathsome WEF corrupt fuck that the GOPe will promptly try to center resistance to Trump around in his own party. He would be worse than Pence and that is saying something.

Agree. If Trump were stupid enough to pick him, it would be a disaster for his chances. He won't.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:03 PM (CsUN+)

252 It will not be Kemp who is a loathsome WEF corrupt fuck that the GOPe will promptly try to center resistance to Trump around in his own party. He would be worse than Pence and that is saying something.

Kemp brings nothing to the table and everything to the downside and is pretty disliked btw in Georgia among the GOP rank and file. He has pullled too much shit over the years including very probably cheating himself into the governor's chair in 2018.

I can give you song and verse how he is a truly shitty person as well as a pol but the gray boxes only allow so much to be put in them.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:59 PM (peJ7P)

I don't like Kemp, but he knows how to win GA...and it's a must win. Whether he cheated or not is irrelevant, b/c however he won the state, he won it. And he will continue to win it.

IF Trump is going pragmatic (and thus picking a non-us guy), he's the guy to pick. No one's better electorally. And he'd accept b/c Kemp is behind at least 3 other govs for 2028, so this is his only way in to the big offices (and he probably knows it) is VP...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 03:03 PM (exHjb)

253 Having said that the Republicans did nothing to win
Posted by: Smell the Glove

Oh, don't be so hard on them. I'm sure that there were some fabulous breakfast/lunch/dinner and cocktail hour "meetings".

Posted by: Cheri at May 01, 2024 03:03 PM (oiNtH)

254 Wow, somebody luvs them some PFE today, up 7%.

Posted by: gp Shakes Your Milkdrink at May 01, 2024 03:03 PM (MvF+J)

255 I still think Trump should pick a VP who's outside of the political circus. Someone with little or no background.

Someone less likely to submit to blackmail or bribes.

Beyond that, I doubt it matters who his VP selection is.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 01, 2024 03:04 PM (Q4IgG)

256
Agree. If Trump were stupid enough to pick him, it would be a disaster for his chances. He won't.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:03 PM (CsUN+)

Trump hates Kemp

Posted by: it's me donna at May 01, 2024 03:04 PM (Akjoo)

257 227 Rubio's a water addict, he can't go for long without the stuff.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist
----------------------------

It's about control and he doesn't have it. Alcoholics, even junkies, run businesses and those that do have control of their proclivities and themselves. His rebuttal remark faux pas illustrated his lack of control.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 03:04 PM (lCWOD)

258 Trump/Harbaugh '24!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 03:04 PM (9yWhg)

259 Rubio and Vance deliver nothing with FL and OH not in play, and neither playing well on a national stage. Their names are not serious, whether pragmatically or loyally. I mean, Don Jr is better for loyal, and as said, others are better for pragmatic...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 03:05 PM (exHjb)

260 Kemp brings nothing to the table and everything to the downside and is pretty disliked btw in Georgia among the GOP rank and file. He has pullled too much shit over the years including very probably cheating himself into the governor's chair in 2018.

I can give you song and verse how he is a truly shitty person as well as a pol but the gray boxes only allow so much to be put in them.
Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 02:59 PM (peJ7P)

I fairly recently suspected that Tank might actually have won that 2018 election, and that the Dems have held it over Kemp, forcing him to shiv Trump at every opportunity. I began to think that when I put some thought into the story of Kemp turning on Trump after DJT insulted him around trying to open GA early during COVID. That story never made sense to me. If a pol has a relatively thick skin (and they do), they'd never let some words from Trump turn them as thoroughly as his supposedly did Kemp. Trump insulted Cruz' father, for goodness sakes, and that didn't stop Cruz from putatively working with the guy. It just didn't smell right.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 01, 2024 03:05 PM (6EX6n)

261 194 Maybe we could fuse Rubio and Vance together as some sort of post-birth conjoined homunculus. Marco could focus on staying hydrated while J.D. focuses on policy. Win-win.
Posted by: I shouldn't have to come up with all the solutions

Yoo-hoo! I can awkwardly fake the rural, true-conservative appeal, and then manage to fail with the best of them! I shot a dog before, but as VP, I'm sure I can up my game to Cheney levels!

Posted by: Kristi Noem at May 01, 2024 03:05 PM (JCZqz)

262 245 Wormword. Yes, very illegal. Dangerous hallucinatory drug with documented suicidal episodes. There's some speculation that at least some of those suicides by writers and artists in the late 1800s and early 1900s were caused by wormwood/absinthe. The "green fairy" was a very popular drink among these types back then.
Posted by: Elric Blade

Now that they make absinthe without the wormwood, it's legal again.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 03:01 PM (9yWhg)
________

Yes, it's an ingredient in some of my fav drinks. Fun fact: IIRC, the original wormwood recipe was still produced -- legally -- in Spain until the 1960s. That was 50+ years after most countries banned it. Spaniards know how to party, I guess.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 03:05 PM (iFTx/)

263 The real danger of the current protests are that known terrorist sympathizers and organizers are getting involved. These include foreign nationals some of whom have crossed the border. They will take advantage of the idiots involved and further radicalize them. Then this goes kinetic. But don't go by me. Go by the letter agencies including regional JTTF's who have been leaking this out.

Posted by: Marcus T at May 01, 2024 03:05 PM (n4fLp)

264 I'm confident that the federal government's regulations on wormwood are as well thought out and based in science as usual.

Posted by: Somehow it's legal elsewhere without calamity at May 01, 2024 03:05 PM (CJNps)

265 Grady Judd for VP.

Posted by: gp Shakes Your Milkdrink at May 01, 2024 03:05 PM (MvF+J)

266 257 227 Rubio's a water addict, he can't go for long without the stuff.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist
----------------------------

It's about control and he doesn't have it. Alcoholics, even junkies, run businesses and those that do have control of their proclivities and themselves. His rebuttal remark faux pas illustrated his lack of control.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 03:04 PM (lCWOD)

Specifically, self-control.

Posted by: m at May 01, 2024 03:05 PM (o3SCB)

267 More actual votes and registrations equals more votes to fake.
Posted by: ...
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It is actually easy to challenge a voter in person or more likely their mail ballot under state laws. They must have a legitimate address, they must be alive, and must even in a lot of places have proof of existence such as utility bills, etc.

To do that, you need people at the local level to do it in their locales and yes you can fight the power. Cheats have been and never are inevitable winners but it takes standing up to them en masse to prevent it. That means volunteering to be a poll worker, a poll watcher for the rancid GOP, an election judge, etc. including going to an urban shithole to do it on election day.

It is far less likely to involve individual death and dismemberment than a hot civil war would and if one is unwilling to do the easy peaceful task--then they certainly would never violently resist overlords via something like Valley Forge or Morristown at its worst. Tom Paine for example was ensconced in a comfortable home nearby in York during the agonies of the Revolutionary Army at Valley Forge.

Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 03:05 PM (peJ7P)

268 Trump needs to pick someone who would be a good choice to run in 2024...

Posted by: it's me donna at May 01, 2024 03:06 PM (Akjoo)

269 268 Trump needs to pick someone who would be a good choice to run in 2024...
Posted by: it's me donna at May 01, 2024 03:06 PM (Akjoo)

I mean 2028

Posted by: it's me donna at May 01, 2024 03:06 PM (Akjoo)

270 247 I hate Kemp, but if Trump is planning on being full pragmatic,
--------------------------------

It's a lead pipe cinch that Trump is planning on being full pragmatic.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 03:06 PM (lCWOD)

271 Trump needs to pick someone who would be a good choice to run in 2024...

2028?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:06 PM (CsUN+)

272 Pick a VP from a critical swing state… roll the dice.

Posted by: tubal at May 01, 2024 03:06 PM (PCK5/)

273 I fairly recently suspected that Tank might actually have won that 2018 election, and that the Dems have held it over Kemp, forcing him to shiv Trump at every opportunity. I began to think that when I put some thought into the story of Kemp turning on Trump after DJT insulted him around trying to open GA early during COVID. That story never made sense to me. If a pol has a relatively thick skin (and they do), they'd never let some words from Trump turn them as thoroughly as his supposedly did Kemp. Trump insulted Cruz' father, for goodness sakes, and that didn't stop Cruz from putatively working with the guy. It just didn't smell right.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 01, 2024 03:05 PM (6EX6n)

Not sure what to believe but GA defies belief. Kemp wins in the same election that Herschel freaking Walker loses?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 03:07 PM (KbCG3)

274 It's about control and he doesn't have it. Alcoholics, even junkies, run businesses and those that do have control of their proclivities and themselves. His rebuttal remark faux pas illustrated his lack of control.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 03:04 PM (lCWOD)

Specifically, self-control.
Posted by: m

Oh brother.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 03:07 PM (9yWhg)

275
2028?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:06 PM (CsUN+) Yes

Posted by: it's me donna at May 01, 2024 03:07 PM (Akjoo)

276 268 Trump needs to pick someone who would be a good choice to run in 2024...

Posted by: it's me donna at May 01, 2024 03:06 PM (Akjoo)

Trump needs to pick someone who's not afraid to be an MF'er.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 03:07 PM (KbCG3)

277 Given that Youngkin and DeSantis will be both be running in '28, I'm not sure if being Trump's veep in '24 would help or hurt them.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:07 PM (CsUN+)

278 268 Trump needs to pick someone who would be a good choice to run in 2024...
Posted by: it's me donna at May 01, 2024 03:06 PM (Akjoo)

Dr. Freud.. paging Dr. Freud…

Posted by: tubal at May 01, 2024 03:07 PM (PCK5/)

279 248 But, isn't vermouth made from wormwood? I think the two words are connected etymologically.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 03:02 PM (9yWhg)

I think it's specifically Thujone which is outlawed.

They've managed to mostly remove that from current-day absinthes, Jeppson's Malort, etc...

Posted by: XTC at May 01, 2024 03:07 PM (UnA8+)

280 Other than Romney getting beat down by Fat Candy Crowley I'm not sure I've seen anything more cringe in R politics than Rubio trying to do Trumpian Standup Insult Comedy to save his dying campaign.

Trump got way too far under his skin and caused him to lose his grip. I would never be able to show my face in public again.

Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 03:08 PM (h10td)

281 https://twitter.com/manolo_realengo?lang=en

Alive and on Twitter.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 03:08 PM (B0mGw)

282 155 146. You are right. In the end, Jewish Democrats will vote Democrat because of abortion. They all claim a deep connection to Israel, and maybe a few have had their minds changed by recent events, but the vast majority will come home because they are more afraid of the Christian conservative at home than the Hamas guy 15,000 miles away.

The only real question is: how many independents and more conservative Democrats in swing states are so repelled by this stuff that they switch? The Jewish vote isn't going to move the needle on the election. There just aren't enough Jewish voters who will switch to matter.

Posted by: Lex at May 01, 2024 03:08 PM (fMN7A)

283 271 Trump needs to pick someone who would be a good choice to run in 2024...

2028?
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:06 PM (CsUN+)

Forget it, she's rolling.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 03:08 PM (+yhUM)

284 "All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work."

Timothy 3:16-17

Posted by: Marcus T at May 01, 2024 03:08 PM (n4fLp)

285 210 Wormwood…
Posted by: tubal at May 01, 2024 02:55 PM (PCK5/)

I 'think' TJM was going for a subtle play on the fact that it was absentia instead of absinthe.

I may be giving him too much credit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 03:08 PM (di6C2)

286 And pretty much the stupidest looking clown on the face of the earth.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 03:08 PM (B0mGw)

287 Kitchen update:

We might have an oven tomorrow. Still don't have all the cabinets, but we did get the extended fridge space "fixed" (it was in the designs, Dolley didn't notice, and she demanded the change). Still no countertops, though they should go in early next week.

The big drama was around backsplash, though. Dear lord...I never want to look at tile again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

288 277 Given that Youngkin and DeSantis will be both be running in '28, I'm not sure if being Trump's veep in '24 would help or hurt them.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:07 PM (CsUN+)

It will hurt both - thus, I don't think either wants it...

Originally, I though Abbott would want it, but now, he's also in play as #3...

So, I think none of the 3 want it - they want to battle out 2028...

To be in play for 2028 and not be one of those 3, you need to be VP...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 03:09 PM (exHjb)

289 It's a lead pipe cinch that Trump is planning on being full pragmatic.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 03:06 PM (lCWOD)

After being so thoroughly betrayed by Pence? Doubtful.

Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 03:09 PM (h10td)

290 276 Trump needs to pick someone who's not afraid to be an MF'er.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 03:07 PM (KbCG3)

He needs to pick a stone cold killer (no, not Kristi Noem).

Posted by: XTC at May 01, 2024 03:09 PM (UnA8+)

291 285 I 'think' TJM was going for a subtle play on the fact that it was absentia instead of absinthe.

I may be giving him too much credit.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 03:08 PM (di6C2)

=======

I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

292 And pretty much the stupidest looking clown on the face of the earth.

But enough about Jerry Nadler.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:09 PM (CsUN+)

293 It will hurt both - thus, I don't think either wants it...

Originally, I though Abbott would want it, but now, he's also in play as #3...

So, I think none of the 3 want it - they want to battle out 2028...

To be in play for 2028 and not be one of those 3, you need to be VP...

I forgot about Abbott.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:10 PM (CsUN+)

294 I conclude from this discussion that if there were no Joos there would be no problem.

Posted by: Puddinhead at May 01, 2024 03:10 PM (BjRQH)

295 Trump needs to pick someone who's not afraid to be an MF'er.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer
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Is a

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (lCWOD)

296 AZ failed to make any significant election fraud reforms -- even after 2020 when we had an R governor and a 1-seat advantage in each chamber (RINOs in charge, natch).

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (lZVZi)

297 "He needs to pick a stone cold killer (no, not Kristi Noem)"

Seconded.

Posted by: Cricket The Dog, On Rainbow Bridge with an M249 at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (n4fLp)

298 I forgot about Abbott.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:10 PM (CsUN+)

Who?

Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (h10td)

299 I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

I wanted to type 'am probably.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (di6C2)

300 The story is out there. Kemp as SoS had the state voting servers wiped after the 2018 election while Abrams was trying to challenge the election results and voting in federal court. The old Diebold system did not have any audit copies nor printouts that could be checked to make sure that the tallied vote matched the actual vote.

His right hand guy as SoS then became a salesman for Dominion and Kemp promptly put through a nobid multi million dollar state contract for the Dominion voting system to replace the Diebold system that Abrams was suing the state over. Kemp's personal wealth has also vastly increased with his term in public office despite low salaries overall in GA.

GA's previous governor, Nathan Deal was another shitweasel who resigned from Congress prior to his gubernatorial run before the House Ethics Committee heard his case involving Deal's financial impropriety.

Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (peJ7P)

301 298 I forgot about Abbott.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:10 PM (CsUN+)

Who?
Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (h10td)

The Wheelman of the Republic.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (di6C2)

302 291 285 I 'think' TJM was going for a subtle play on the fact that it was absentia instead of absinthe.

I may be giving him too much credit.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 03:08 PM (di6C2)

=======

I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at May 01, 2024 03:09 PM (GBKbO)

“Of all the commenters in the HQ Garden, the TJM was the most subtle”…

Posted by: tubal at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (PCK5/)

303 Wormwood…
Posted by: tuba

It's better than woodworm. That's one parasite you DO NOT want to have.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 02:57 PM (9yWhg)

Damn straight.

Posted by: Pinocchio at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (aD39U)

304 What does this have to do with Nutzi Palsy's saggers?

Posted by: wth at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (v0R5T)

305 273 I fairly recently suspected that Tank might actually have won that 2018 election, and that the Dems have held it over Kemp, forcing him to shiv Trump at every opportunity. I began to think that when I put some thought into the story of Kemp turning on Trump after DJT insulted him around trying to open GA early during COVID. That story never made sense to me. If a pol has a relatively thick skin (and they do), they'd never let some words from Trump turn them as thoroughly as his supposedly did Kemp. Trump insulted Cruz' father, for goodness sakes, and that didn't stop Cruz from putatively working with the guy. It just didn't smell right.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 01, 2024 03:05 PM (6EX6n)

Not sure what to believe but GA defies belief. Kemp wins in the same election that Herschel freaking Walker loses?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 01, 2024 03:07 PM (KbCG3)
___________

Kemp has his own vote fraud machine in place. That, plus Walker was running against a reasonably popular incumbent Senator, and couldn't stop stepping on his dick. Lotsa dirty tricks used against Walker -- more than against Kemp -- but he also made some unforced errors.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (iFTx/)

306 Fuck it, pick Sarah Palin or something. Pick Dr. Phil. I don't even care, just pick someone ridiculous, because either the fix is in and it doesn't matter, or the fix is in the other way and it still doesn't matter.

Go for maximum theatricality, is what i'm saying, and don't melt a big bore gun on a position as trivial as VP.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 03:12 PM (+yhUM)

307 I forgot about Abbott.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:10 PM (CsUN+)

Who?
Posted by: ... at May 01, 2024 03:11 PM (h10td)

The Wheelman of the Republic.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Governor Hot Wheels

Posted by: rickb223 at May 01, 2024 03:12 PM (hF4JZ)

308 President Trump needs to pick that Jap Fella for VP who hates everyone and anyone, especially the other candidates.

Posted by: Godzilla, Jap Eater at May 01, 2024 03:12 PM (4a+k3)

309 Abbott is a wholly owned subsidiary of GOPe. He's a watermelon.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 03:12 PM (lCWOD)

310 293 It will hurt both - thus, I don't think either wants it...

Originally, I though Abbott would want it, but now, he's also in play as #3...

So, I think none of the 3 want it - they want to battle out 2028...

To be in play for 2028 and not be one of those 3, you need to be VP...

I forgot about Abbott.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:10 PM (CsUN+)

He is the only one who might want it (b/c I think he's #3) and might add to Trump's campaign pragmatically as the 1st publicly disabled VP in a country with 25% of adults now designated as having a disability...that might play hard to women, especially possibly squishy liberal ones with disabled kids fighting public school systems for services...

Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 03:12 PM (exHjb)

311 “Of all the commenters in the HQ Garden, the TJM was the most subtle”…
Posted by: tubal

"subtile"
-- King James Version Only people

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 01, 2024 03:13 PM (9yWhg)

312 Go for maximum theatricality, is what i'm saying, and don't melt a big bore gun on a position as trivial as VP.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 03:12 PM (+yhUM)

Pick Alex Jones.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 03:13 PM (di6C2)

313 Hey, I know. Let's put all our hope and trust in people who lie for a living.

Posted by: Just a thought at May 01, 2024 03:13 PM (rJlPI)

314 he story is out there. Kemp as SoS had the state voting servers wiped after the 2018 election while Abrams was trying to challenge the election results and voting in federal court. The old Diebold system did not have any audit copies nor printouts that could be checked to make sure that the tallied vote matched the actual vote.

His right hand guy as SoS then became a salesman for Dominion and Kemp promptly put through a nobid multi million dollar state contract for the Dominion voting system to replace the Diebold system that Abrams was suing the state over. Kemp's personal wealth has also vastly increased with his term in public office despite low salaries overall in GA.

GA's previous governor, Nathan Deal was another shitweasel who resigned from Congress prior to his gubernatorial run before the House Ethics Committee heard his case involving Deal's financial impropriety.
Posted by: whig at

plus there is that pesky murder thing

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 01, 2024 03:13 PM (CIS44)

315 277 Given that Youngkin and DeSantis will be both be running in '28, I'm not sure if being Trump's veep in '24 would help or hurt them.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:07 PM (CsUN+)

Considering how well RDS did against Trump in the primaries, he would need Trump's imprimatur to lock down the base before he expands into general pop. Trump is the 800-pound gorilla in US politics. There is no figure in the GOP with the standing to dispute or challenge that directly, so you need to work with the guy. If he's still around by '28, he will need to bless his successor.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 01, 2024 03:13 PM (6EX6n)

316

Nunes

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 03:14 PM (lCWOD)

317 President Trump needs to pick that Jap Fella for VP who ~~hates~~ despises everyone and anyone, especially the other candidates.

Posted by: Godzilla, Jap Eater

Get it right.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:14 PM (CsUN+)

318 Vivek

Posted by: BlackOrchid at May 01, 2024 03:15 PM (s3qiR)

319 He is the only one who might want it (b/c I think he's #3) and might add to Trump's campaign pragmatically as the 1st publicly disabled VP in a country with 25% of adults now designated as having a disability...that might play hard to women, especially possibly squishy liberal ones with disabled kids fighting public school systems for services...

Hmmmmm, interesting.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:15 PM (CsUN+)

320 George Washington's Toenail clippings.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 03:15 PM (di6C2)

321 320 George Washington's Toenail clippings.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 01, 2024 03:15 PM (di6C2)

Didn't he have wooden toenails?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 01, 2024 03:16 PM (+yhUM)

322 Vivek

Vivek comes across as callow. He needs lots more seasoning before he's put a heartbeat away from the presidency. And I like the guy.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 01, 2024 03:16 PM (CsUN+)

323 Just tossing this out there. Tulsi was on Clay and Buck back to back with Ramaswamy today. The rumors about Tulsi being the VP pick will not die.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 03:16 PM (Ectld)

324 David Pecker for VP. Because everyone in the key demographics loves a pecker

Posted by: Cricket The Dog, On Rainbow Bridge with an M249 at May 01, 2024 03:16 PM (n4fLp)

325 "What does this have to do with Nutzi Palsy's saggers?"

Nothing. I manage to never think of Pelosi's "saggers" unless someone brings it up here, and she's in her 80's. Unless she has cosmetic surgery she's going to sag.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2024 03:16 PM (XkYcA)

326 Why can't wealthy people be more interested in buying big yachts and stuff.

Posted by: TexasDan at May 01, 2024 03:16 PM (z/ifB)

327 Just tossing this out there. Tulsi was on Clay and Buck back to back with Ramaswamy today. The rumors about Tulsi being the VP pick will not die.
Posted by: Ribbed

her speech at CPAC was excellent

Posted by: BruceWayne at May 01, 2024 03:17 PM (CIS44)

328 nood

Posted by: gp Shakes Your Milkdrink at May 01, 2024 03:17 PM (MvF+J)

329 Avoid Gabbard like a plague ridden rodent… no draw, at all.

Posted by: tubal at May 01, 2024 03:17 PM (PCK5/)

330 >200
200
Posted by: m
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Awesome!

Posted by: wth at May 01, 2024 03:17 PM (v0R5T)

331 Abbott would be Pence II.

I can't believe you people are remotely considering Kemp.
I mean, really?

Posted by: Braenyard at May 01, 2024 03:17 PM (lCWOD)

332 "David Pecker for VP. Because everyone in the key demographics loves a pecker"

Why do we all have to be obsessed with the LGBT crowd?

Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 03:17 PM (B0mGw)

333 NOOD RFKJr. is a putz

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 01, 2024 03:17 PM (DRSnL)

334 Considering how well RDS did against Trump in the primaries, he would need Trump's imprimatur to lock down the base before he expands into general pop. Trump is the 800-pound gorilla in US politics. There is no figure in the GOP with the standing to dispute or challenge that directly, so you need to work with the guy. If he's still around by '28, he will need to bless his successor.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 01, 2024 03:13 PM (6EX6n)

Seems to me there's a greater than 50% chance the Republican Presidential nominee in 2028 will be... Donald J. Trump.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 01, 2024 03:18 PM (dGCAG)

335 "her speech at CPAC was excellent"

I'm not for her, but she has tits and Trump can't quit chasing hot tail and she's very anti-war and would be a big F you to the establishment GOP.

Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 03:18 PM (B0mGw)

336 I continue to believe Trump's VP pick will come out of left field. If he's gonna choose from the Big Names, I think it will be Tim Scott. As much as I hate identity politics, it will be hard for Trump to choose another white guy. Plus, while Scott is a bit squishy and not an AoS fav, he's got some good points in his favor that don't have to do with the color of his skin. I kinda like him.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 01, 2024 03:19 PM (iFTx/)

337 Not sure what to believe but GA defies belief. Kemp wins in the same election that Herschel freaking Walker loses?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer

Giftcards distributed to voters by Warnock's ballot harvesters is why. Same strategy was used in the recent Wisconsin Supreme Court race that threw the majority to the Dems.

Posted by: whig at May 01, 2024 03:20 PM (peJ7P)

338 323 Just tossing this out there. Tulsi was on Clay and Buck back to back with Ramaswamy today. The rumors about Tulsi being the VP pick will not die.
Posted by: Ribbed at May 01, 2024 03:16 PM (Ectld)

She delivers nothing...and loses a lot.
She's not VP if Trump wants to win.

Posted by: Nova Local at May 01, 2024 03:20 PM (exHjb)

339 Security policy expert Kyle Shideler writes that these violent "protests" may be alienating voters, but the far left doesn't care -- because their goal is to mau-mau the Democrat Party elite into submission, and it's working.
++++
They only have to convert (or intimidate into conversion) a fairly small minority of Party elites. Most are already on board.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 01, 2024 02:21 PM

They don't care about "alienating voters", because they know elections do not matter anymore. They stole 2020, they stole 2022 AZ and they will steal 2024. This is why they have no fear of going too radical and "alienating voters". They know they can do and say anything they want now with zero consequences, legally and electorally. 2020 showed them that.

If people won't bother to fight back when forced to get a shot or lose your job; when their children are forced to get a shot; when they are banned from seeing their loved ones dying in hospitals and nursing homes; when an election is rigged and stolen; when protesters are unjustly arrested, imprisoned, tortured and prosecuted; when government spurs illegal alien invasion... they know the population is conquered.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at May 01, 2024 03:24 PM (P5BPp)

340 The UCLA protesters have a list of demands, and it's hilarious.

https://tinyurl.com/ye26hv96

Posted by: Ian S. at May 01, 2024 03:27 PM (NqGS/)

341 Well, I'm convinced:

The Moral Collapse of J. D. Vance - The Atlantic
But the word is apt when I consider Vance's silly and yet detestable moral collapse. Some people back in Vance's home region of Appalachia thought his memoir, Hillbilly Elegy, was hollow and ...

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 03:28 PM (vtyCZ)

342 203 I still think Trump picks Nikki Haley for VP. She's playing hard to get for a reason and she seems ready to trigger her vest to get her way. She is the best choice from a political 'anything to win' standpoint, especially if she's doing so well with the left.
Posted by: Ribbed at March 06, 2024 12:37 PM (B0mGw)

Posted by: andycanuck (vtyCZ) at May 01, 2024 03:30 PM (vtyCZ)

343 This attractive blonde woman never feels compelled to get photographed while wearing her underwear in order to express her conservative political opinions:

https://tinyurl.com/4jk2zm3a

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2024 04:08 PM (XkYcA)

344 Darn; Posted in the wrong place again

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 01, 2024 04:09 PM (XkYcA)

345 Murderous, Sexually Promiscuous Pornography Abusers

But enough about the Clintons...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 01, 2024 04:34 PM (ynpvh)

346 Those who donate to radicals should be investigated and arrested

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