Released Emails Show Biden's White House Conspiring With Bureaucrats to Force the Documents Issue

Just the News:

Just weeks after learning Joe Biden had improperly retained government documents, his administration began working with federal bureaucrats in spring and fall 2021 to increase pressure on Donald Trump for similar issues and eventually prompt a criminal prosecution of the 45th president, according to government memos newly unsealed by a federal judge.
The correspondence, released this week by U.S. District Judge Eileen Cannon in Florida, provide the the most extensive accounting so far of how the Biden White House worked with federal bureaucrats to escalate pressure on Trump to return documents to the National Archives even as it slow-walked similar issues involving its own boss.
One email dated May 5, 2021, shows the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) had already consulted the Biden White House about missing Trump records, more than a year before the public would learn that the former president president had kept some classified memos.
"I have had several conversations with [Person 40] since the end of the Trump Administration about various paper records that he believes were not transferred to us," NARA General Counsel Gary Stern wrote to his colleagues in one May email.
"Person 40" was not identified by name in the document but was listed as working for the Biden White House in the Records Management Office, according to a motion filed by Trump's lawyers in the case, which was previously redacted.

On August 30, 2021, NARA Archivist David Ferriero began to press Trump records representatives more explicitly about the documents, vowing to make referrals to "the Hill, DOJ, and the White House" if the documents had been destroyed or where not turned over soon.
"As you have seen in the press, the House has requested records," Ferriero writes in one email chain. "Our ability to respond requires access to the 24 boxes which have yet to be accounted for. At this point, I am assuming that they have been destroyed. In which case, I am obligated to report it to the Hill, DOJ, and the White House."

By September 2021, Stern had decided to draft a criminal referral against Trump to the Justice Department after documents were still not returned, according to an FBI interview summary with a NARA employee, identified as "Person 53" in the court documents.
"Stern approached [Per. 53] to formally draft a letter to DOJ raising concerns about PRA materials from the TRUMP administration which remained unaccounted for by NARA," the FBI memo stated.
In his interview with the FBI, Person 53 noted in his "years of experience," he "understood NARA never had to make such a referral to DOJ...to accomplish such an ask."
When he circulated the draft letter internally, Stern told colleagues he had been in contact with "DOJ counsel" about the matter and was continuing to communicate with the White House Counsel's Office, showing the Biden administration was in the loop about the efforts to repossess Trump's documents.
"In addition, [White House] Counsel is now also aware of the issue, and has asked that I keep them in the loop to the extent that we make any reference to the White House Office of Records Management," Stern wrote in the email.

While NARA and the White House were engaging DOJ on Trump, Biden aides were trying to figure out what to do with memos Biden kept at his University of Pennsylvania Biden Center office in Washington, some which turned out to be classified.

Hey guys, this all looks shady, but remember, they're Saving Democracy by weaponizing the government's intelligence and "law" enforcement arms against political opponents.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 03:28 PM

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1 COLLUSION! IMPEACH!

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 24, 2024 03:29 PM (f1PpG)

2 Willowed:

For a guy who - just weeks before the attacks of October 7th - claimed he was "raised in the synagogues of [his] state," Biden sure does hate the everloving fuck out of the Jews.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 24, 2024 03:30 PM (/nCD+)

3 If we're going to have a Banana Republic can those of us who object at least get some ice cream, hot fudge and whipped cream to go along with the bananas?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2024 03:30 PM (XkYcA)

4 2 Willowed:

For a guy who - just weeks before the attacks of October 7th - claimed he was "raised in the synagogues of [his] state," Biden sure does hate the everloving fuck out of the Jews.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 24, 2024 03:30 PM (/nCD+)

Lol. You weren't supposed to notice.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at April 24, 2024 03:31 PM (OiAR7)

5 May I present "Free Palestine Drag Queen Story Hour." Yes, it's a real thing, and there's video.

https://shorturl.at/fkEKZ

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I wonder if they'll play the one arm hostage video.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 24, 2024 03:32 PM (FVME7)

6 "If we're going to have a Banana Republic can those of us who object at least get some ice cream, hot fudge and whipped cream to go along with the bananas?"

Yer talking about Banana splits aren't you? There used to be a guy around here that could help you with that.

Posted by: Outside of Life at April 24, 2024 03:32 PM (89Sog)

7 It's not like it was a "conspiracy" conspiracy.......

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 24, 2024 03:33 PM (QNSds)

8 Yet another outrage in a long line of outrages

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2024 03:33 PM (Akjoo)

9 and her release of these documents will be the pretext for her throwing out the doc case on selective prosecution grounds.

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 24, 2024 03:33 PM (CIS44)

10 What time ace "forgets" to actually the said numerable for documents involved, you are a understand himself is trying to hidden one thing
n. b. The documents on question was find by biden lawyers that person immediately the contacted doj and return them
this were the don't case taking mr trump

Posted by: Paul banned because he likes little boys at April 24, 2024 03:34 PM (4qSBY)

11
See? THIS is why you run for office in this country: to f*** with your enemies-

and steal

disclaimer: I despise all politicians with the burning white hot intensity of a thousand suns

Posted by: Don Black at April 24, 2024 03:34 PM (/7KEl)

12 Well that's good. Now that we know what these criminals have been up to, we can get some convictions, so that justice is served.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2024 03:34 PM (dGCAG)

13 Just look at what they are accusing others with. Since they are doing it themselves, they believe everyone must be doing it.

Posted by: fd at April 24, 2024 03:34 PM (vFG9F)

14 Willowed:

For a guy who - just weeks before the attacks of October 7th - claimed he was "raised in the synagogues of [his] state," Biden sure does hate the everloving fuck out of the Jews.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 24, 2024 03:30 PM (/nCD+)

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He's a self-hating black Puerto Rican Jew.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 24, 2024 03:34 PM (f1PpG)

15 >"At this point, I am assuming that they have been destroyed. In which case, I am obligated to report it to the Hill, DOJ, and the White House."

Nice campaign ya got there. Sure would be a shame if something happened to it.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at April 24, 2024 03:34 PM (NgqoH)

16 Paul, how did that dick casserole turn out?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 24, 2024 03:35 PM (pohLc)

17 So a clandestine shadow investigation using informal information networks for the purpose of targeting a political opponent by the state?

Sounds about right.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 03:35 PM (HnUIn)

18 If we're going to have a Banana Republic can those of us who object at least get some ice cream, hot fudge and whipped cream to go along with the bananas?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2024 03:30 PM (XkYcA)

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We gonna need a bigger banana boat ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 24, 2024 03:35 PM (f1PpG)

19 Hey guys, this all looks shady, but remember, they're Saving Democracy by weaponizing the government's intelligence and "law" enforcement arms against political opponents.
++++
Democracy is an idea.

An idea approved by them, in the manner they wish.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 03:35 PM (HnUIn)

20 We now have direct evidence of two prosecutors in separate Trump cases colluding with the WH.
And ididn’t one of the prosecutiors in the hush money circus used to work for DOJ?
Nothing to see here folks

Posted by: Pelosi Schmelosi at April 24, 2024 03:36 PM (WRmhP)

21 Posted by: Paul banned at April 24, 2024 03:34 PM (4qSBY)

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The ones in his unlocked garage?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 24, 2024 03:36 PM (GBKbO)

22 And, this, my fellow Americans is how you save Democracy!

Posted by: Just Lily at April 24, 2024 03:36 PM (g1WJ4)

23 Posted by: Paul banned at April 24, 2024 03:34 PM (4qSBY)

I'm so glad you get paid to show up here, Paul. You're always good for a laugh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2024 03:36 PM (XkYcA)

24 Democrats always go for The Kill.

The GOPe sticks its hand in your pocket for more money, and reaches for a not-so-sneaky grope while they're at it.

Posted by: XTC at April 24, 2024 03:37 PM (UnA8+)

25 Fvck the Nerver Trumpers with the flaming razor wire encrusted pineapple of their Precious Norms.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2024 03:37 PM (gzX6N)

26 Paul needs to get back to defending people who want to see all Jews killed by quoting polls.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 24, 2024 03:37 PM (GBKbO)

27 Never forget that the Bide Biographer erased the audio of Biden passing on classified info and knowledge that he was in possession, thereof.

Pretty sure it was Post Subpoena.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2024 03:37 PM (CAj8d)

28 If we're going to have a Banana Republic can those of us who object at least get some ice cream, hot fudge and whipped cream to go along with the bananas?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2024 03:30 PM (XkYcA)

For reasons I can't fully explain, as much as I like bananas, and as mild as they can be, and delicious in other recipes, I don't like the banana split. It's too... bananaee.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2024 03:37 PM (dGCAG)

29 I'm so glad you get paid to show up here, Paul. You're always good for a laugh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

No smoochies for Paul, Fen, please.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 03:37 PM (9yWhg)

30 What percentage of the governed trust the Feds to do the right thing?

Posted by: mr tmz at April 24, 2024 03:38 PM (rJ48h)

31 22 22 And, this, my fellow Americans is how you save Democracy!
Posted by: Just Lily at April 24, 2024 03:36 PM (g1WJ4)

How DARE you call it just "Democracy"!

It's "OUR PRECIOUS, SACRED DEMOCRACY!"

-Your so-called "betters".

Posted by: XTC at April 24, 2024 03:38 PM (UnA8+)

32 The real conspiracies are more convoluted than the "imagined" ones.

Truth stranger than fiction kinda stuff.

Posted by: pawn at April 24, 2024 03:38 PM (QB+5g)

33 How DARE you call it just "Democracy"!

It's "OUR PRECIOUS, SACRED DEMOCRACY!"

-Your so-called "betters".
Posted by: XTC at April 24, 2024 03:38 PM (UnA8+)

I stand corrected.

Posted by: Just Lily at April 24, 2024 03:39 PM (g1WJ4)

34 Pretty sure it was Post Subpoena.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2024 03:37 PM (CAj8d)

It was, but his name's not Nixon or Trump, so it's fine.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2024 03:39 PM (dGCAG)

35 UGH. It ain't a fukkin democracy. We are a representative republic.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 24, 2024 03:39 PM (pohLc)

36 Where is Captain Kirk to read the sacred document?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2024 03:39 PM (gzX6N)

37 Sandy Berger would be proud.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 24, 2024 03:39 PM (cDEsv)

38 >>For reasons I can't fully explain, as much as I like bananas, and as mild as they can be, and delicious in other recipes, I don't like the banana split.

I can only stomach bananas that are barely ripened. It's like a 3-4 hour window where they taste good to me. Otherwise, they suck.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2024 03:39 PM (CAj8d)

39 Had they ever asked any president to return documents before?

Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2024 03:40 PM (FQmDC)

40 You know how we were discussing people who weren’t capable of thinking? They just regurgitate what they have been fed without question? As an example, someone jumping up and down like an excited wiener dog with a fun fact they think is a big ole gotcha, but their fact turns out to be not so factual? So not factual, that even the DOJ that is weaponized admitted but for the dottering old fool part, all kinds of laws were broken and an indictment should happen?

Posted by: Piper at April 24, 2024 03:40 PM (ZdaMQ)

41 May I present "Free Palestine Drag Queen Story Hour." Yes, it's a real thing, and there's video.

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I'm looking forward to the music video of the Free Palestine Drag Queens visit there -- set to the song "It's Raining Men."

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 24, 2024 03:40 PM (MJv9a)

42 Where is Captain Kirk to read the sacred document?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Was that the Constitution or the Dec. of Independence?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 03:40 PM (9yWhg)

43 Sandy Burglar and his sticky socks?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2024 03:40 PM (gzX6N)

44 No way, really?

>>FBI agents raiding former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022 may have been hunting for a 10-inch binder of declassified information detailing how former CIA Director John O. Brennan ordered the initial spying operation into Mr. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign.

https://tinyurl.com/2s3sbhk7

Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 03:40 PM (LkLld)

45 I can only stomach bananas that are barely ripened. It's like a 3-4 hour window where they taste good to me. Otherwise, they suck.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2024 03:39 PM (CAj8d)

I like 'em black and gushy and about 20 proof and in a banana pudding.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 24, 2024 03:41 PM (pohLc)

46 Does the troll get paid by the post or by how many responses it gets for it's lies. Or is this volunteer work for it's masters?

Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at April 24, 2024 03:41 PM (sAmhv)

47 This is one of those things I read and just think "well of course they did."

Posted by: blaster at April 24, 2024 03:41 PM (xhfG9)

48 For a guy who - just weeks before the attacks of October 7th - claimed he was "raised in the synagogues of [his] state," Biden sure does hate the everloving fuck out of the Jews.
Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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Even when I was there in the 80's on the House side, Biden was known to be a vicious, stupid, lying, and manipulative SOB by his own fellow senators and staff. The only person Biden really loves is himself and you can tell from the rotten fruit of his dysfunctional family that they feel the same about him.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 03:41 PM (cViPl)

49 Freedom from persecution for me but not for thee.

Posted by: Vegetable in Chief at April 24, 2024 03:41 PM (VcHM+)

50 If elected, Trump might do the same and since that is obviously wrong, we have to do it to him first!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 24, 2024 03:42 PM (di6C2)

51 No way, really?

>>FBI agents raiding former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022 may have been hunting for a 10-inch binder of declassified information detailing how former CIA Director John O. Brennan ordered the initial spying operation into Mr. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. ...
Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 03:40 PM (LkLld)
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How do you spell "cover up?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 03:42 PM (HnUIn)

52 >>Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 03:40 PM (LkLld)

'Where's the fuckin' Binder, Lebowski!?'

'We want that fuckin' Binder, Shithead!!'

Posted by: Woo at April 24, 2024 03:42 PM (CAj8d)

53 Washington Nearsider,

Finally got in the ICM 1/48 B-26B Marauder. Despite the best efforts of the USPS to lose it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2024 03:42 PM (gzX6N)

54 51 No way, really?

>>FBI agents raiding former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022 may have been hunting for a 10-inch binder of declassified information detailing how former CIA Director John O. Brennan ordered the initial spying operation into Mr. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. ...
Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 03:40 PM (LkLld)
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How do you spell "cover up?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 03:42 PM (HnUIn)

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Come on, Joe. You spelled it just fine there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 24, 2024 03:42 PM (GBKbO)

55 We are a representative republic.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 24, 2024 03:39 PM (pohLc)

Yeah, no. We're not.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2024 03:42 PM (dGCAG)

56 10 inches is pretty big!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (QB+5g)

57
The ones in his unlocked garage?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April

Maybe the ones in his office at Penn State.

Posted by: Piper at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (ZdaMQ)

58 Democrat mantra: "It's okay when WE do it."

Posted by: JM in illinois, behold the Manchurian President at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (Q7cQT)

59 Trolls get paid by the hole.

Posted by: Pawl at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (vFG9F)

60 Bananas, like marshmallows, are disgusting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (di6C2)

61 Democrats have been at Trump since his 1st day in office

Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (fwDg9)

62 Finally got in the ICM 1/48 B-26B Marauder. Despite the best efforts of the USPS to lose it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2024 03:42 PM (gzX6N)

Super news!

I'm working on a PBY-5 before embarking on the 1/32 B-24J

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (/nCD+)

63 We are a representative republic.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 24, 2024 03:39 PM (pohLc)

If we could'a kept it we would be.

Posted by: Just Lily at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (g1WJ4)

64 46 Does the troll get paid by the post or by how many responses it gets for it's lies. Or is this volunteer work for it's masters?
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at April 24, 2024 03:41 PM (sAmhv)

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This is why the HQ sticks to the old school comment section. Without threads, counting responses is nigh-on impossible!

Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (F4bAW)

65 10 inches is pretty big!
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at A

*looks down*
*shurgs*
not to me.
-Michelle Obama

Posted by: BruceWayne at April 24, 2024 03:44 PM (CIS44)

66 22 And, this, my fellow Americans is how you save Democracy!

Posted by: Just Lily at April 24, 2024 03:36 PM (g1WJ4)

++++

You said it, pal.

Posted by: Joe, Pause and refresh, Biden at April 24, 2024 03:44 PM (F6UFz)

67 3 If we're going to have a Banana Republic can those of us who object at least get some ice cream, hot fudge and whipped cream to go along with the bananas?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2024 03:30 PM (XkYcA)

Make mine with chopped walnuts, please.

Posted by: JM in illinois, behold the Manchurian President at April 24, 2024 03:44 PM (Q7cQT)

68 Do tell.

>>Washington (CNN) — A binder containing highly classified information related to Russian election interference went missing at the end of Donald Trump’s presidency, raising alarms among intelligence officials that some of the most closely guarded national security secrets from the US and its allies could be exposed, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

https://tinyurl.com/3nt23vhh

Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 03:44 PM (LkLld)

69 Had they ever asked any president to return documents before?

Posted by: steevy at April 24, 2024 03:40 PM (FQmDC)

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IIRC, DogEater has a million pages or something sitting in a Shitcago warehouse somewhere -- awaiting the construction of his Presidential Outhouse. Sounds secure!

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 24, 2024 03:44 PM (MJv9a)

70 If we could'a kept it we would be.
Posted by: Just Lily at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (g1WJ4)

I will concede the point.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 24, 2024 03:44 PM (pohLc)

71 PBY-5 or PBY-5A?

1/32 B-24? Why not, go with the B-17.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2024 03:44 PM (gzX6N)

72 I can only stomach bananas that are barely ripened. It's like a 3-4 hour window where they taste good to me. Otherwise, they suck.
Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2024 03:39 PM (CAj8d)

It's a fairly short window, but that's a little extreme.

And it's fine to use overripe bananas in recipes.

Well, I can't, but those who actually have such skills can.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (dGCAG)

73 UGH. It ain't a fukkin democracy. We are a representative republic.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

But a republic is a form of democracy, is it not? Indirect democracy, I think it used to be called.

I know the Dems demagogue when they use the word, but, still, we should be clear about its meaning.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (9yWhg)

74 65 *looks down*
*shurgs*
not to me.
-Michelle Obama
Posted by: BruceWayne at April 24, 2024 03:44 PM (CIS44)

Style Guide says Michael "Big Mike" Robinson.

Posted by: XTC at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (UnA8+)

75 46 Does the troll get paid by the post or by how many responses it gets for it's lies. Or is this volunteer work for it's masters?
Posted by: Puddleglum
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A lot of the online boards are plagued by government employees that post while they are allegedly working. Then you have the whole propaganda trolls working as partisans and the manipulators trying to get the blog closed down by trying to incite unlawful activity.

Think JJ mentioned that the troll that you are referring to is in NY and uses VPN hopping so probably a Shart Blue or some other operative that drops their turd bomb and then flees.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (cViPl)

76 It's "OUR PRECIOUS, SACRED DEMOCRACY!"

-Your so-called "betters".
Posted by: XTC at April 24, 2024 03:38 PM (UnA8+)
.......

*waves Ukranian flag*

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (v0R5T)

77 Yes it is. You have any problems with that Honey?

Posted by: Steven Tyler at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (QB+5g)

78 >>FBI agents raiding former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022 may have been hunting for a 10-inch binder of declassified information detailing how former CIA Director John O. Brennan ordered the initial spying operation into Mr. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. ...
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This is Watergate with Nixon sending the FBI to eagerly raid Democrat offices.
And the media cheering Nixon on.
And covering for Nixon.

But we're not a fascist police state because Democrats support democracy-- it's in their name, see.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (yikga)

79 61 Democrats have been at Trump since his 1st day in office

Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (fwDg9)

++++

And most Republicans, if we're truthful.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (F6UFz)

80 >56 10 inches is pretty big!

Posted by: Sandra Fluke at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (QB+5g)

'Xcuse my while I whip this out.

Posted by: Sheriff Bart at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (NgqoH)

81 Yeah, no. We're not.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2024 03:42 PM (dGCAG)

Constitutional Republic - all the way down to dog catcher.

My pet peeve is hearing the US described erroneously as
1. A Democracy
2. A Democratic Republic
3. A Representative Republic
4. A Constitutional Democracy
5. A Representative Democracy

An on and on and on - all wrong.

Posted by: Boswell at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (K+UlC)

82
The ones in his unlocked garage?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April

Or maybe all the ones he could declare unclassified as is his right as a senator and vice president! Oh wait a minute…..!

Posted by: Piper at April 24, 2024 03:46 PM (ZdaMQ)

83 >>It's a fairly short window, but that's a little extreme.

It's probably more like 5 hours...but, yeah. I miss that window and I am making Banana Bread and giving it away.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2024 03:46 PM (CAj8d)

84 10-inch binder of declassified

"declassified."

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2024 03:46 PM (Akjoo)

85 Say…whatever became of Obama’s digital library and those documents he took? Scooby Doo mystery!

Posted by: Piper at April 24, 2024 03:46 PM (ZdaMQ)

86 >>Democrats have been at Trump since his 1st day in office

Long before his first day in office. That's why they are taking such maniacal steps to try and crush him. He knows what's behind the curtain.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 03:46 PM (LkLld)

87 Or the ones in his SCIFvette?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2024 03:46 PM (gzX6N)

88 >>FBI agents raiding former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022 may have been hunting for a 10-inch binder of declassified information
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They just love his big 10-inch ... binder of declassified information

(apologies to Aerosmith)

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 24, 2024 03:47 PM (wQXfi)

89 Gotta scoot

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2024 03:47 PM (gzX6N)

90 >>This is Watergate with Nixon sending the FBI to eagerly raid Democrat offices.
And the media cheering Nixon on.
And covering for Nixon.

America's Untold Stories on YouTube just started a series on Watergate / Nixon for that very same realization.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2024 03:47 PM (CAj8d)

91 Gotta scoot
Posted by: Anna Puma

Had lunch at Taco Bell again?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 03:48 PM (9yWhg)

92 >>Gotta scoot

That's why Ace has carpets.

Helop yourself.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2024 03:48 PM (CAj8d)

93 >I know the Dems demagogue when they use the word, but, still, we should be clear about its meaning.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (9yWhg)

What Dems *really* want is a tyranny of the minority.

Posted by: Heavy Meta at April 24, 2024 03:48 PM (NgqoH)

94 "Hundreds of Texas troopers went into the University of Texas at Austin on Wednesday, in the latest standoff before authorities and pro-Palestine college students.

Police have arrested at least four demonstrators after warning them they could face criminal charges if they did not disperse, as reported by the Texas Tribune.

The rally at the Austin campus was organized by the university's Palestine Solidarity Committee (PSJ) chapter.

The group said it was inspired by their 'comrades' at Rutgers, Yale and Columbia University, where in-person classes have been canceled due to the unrest sparked by an 'encampment for Gaza.'"

Comrades y'all ! COMRADES! who is funding this shite ??

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2024 03:49 PM (V13WU)

95 1/32 B-24? Why not, go with the B-17.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2024 03:44 PM (gzX6N)

It's a -5A.

And because my grandfather drove B-24J's in the Pacific. I built the 1/32 B-17G, and will do so again - one of my minions exploded it playing soccer in the basement...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at April 24, 2024 03:49 PM (/nCD+)

96 94 "Hundreds of Texas troopers went into the University of Texas at Austin on Wednesday, in the latest standoff before authorities and pro-Palestine college students.

Police have arrested at least four demonstrators after warning them they could face criminal charges if they did not disperse, as reported by the Texas Tribune.

The rally at the Austin campus was organized by the university's Palestine Solidarity Committee (PSJ) chapter.

The group said it was inspired by their 'comrades' at Rutgers, Yale and Columbia University, where in-person classes have been canceled due to the unrest sparked by an 'encampment for Gaza.'"

Comrades y'all ! COMRADES! who is funding this shite ??
Posted by: runner at April 24, 2024 03:49 PM (V13WU)

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Don't send the cops. Keep Austin weird, man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 24, 2024 03:49 PM (GBKbO)

97 Every one of these Kangaroo Courts have been in cahoots with the White house and Barky's minions

Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2024 03:49 PM (fwDg9)

98 This is why the HQ sticks to the old school comment section. Without threads, counting responses is nigh-on impossible!
Posted by: No One of Consequence
==========
Some blogs use crappy programs like Disqus and let third parties handle it. Some have gotten rid of their comment sections. A few use home brewed in-house systems that require registration and identifying oneself like Conservative Treehouse. And then there is AOS that uses a prehistoric one of a kind platform. Some call that as security by obscurity and why bank ATMs until recently used OS/2 as an operating system despite its death in the desktop realm in the 90's.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 03:49 PM (cViPl)

99 >>Comrades y'all ! COMRADES! who is funding this shite ??

Brothers in Harms

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2024 03:49 PM (CAj8d)

100 Must be some kind of world wide epidemic of limp dicks, from all the cures I'm seeing.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 24, 2024 03:49 PM (pohLc)

101 "Shady" is having a president who's admittedly to senile to face prosecution for what was undeniably illegal since he pilford top secret documents when he wasn't president.

I mean, what better advertisement could there possibly be for hostile countries to attack us?

Posted by: Johnny at April 24, 2024 03:50 PM (PmiZd)

102 Democrats have been at Trump since his 1st day in office
Posted by: Skip at April 24, 2024 03:43 PM (fwDg9)

Yup...that asshole corn pone Jeff Sessions set a speed record in recusing his inbred ass for really no reason at all due to democrat shenanigans. Dumb bastard was only good for fondling his balls and yelling "Roll Tide" every five minutes like an idiot.

Meanwhile, Merrick garland is literally raping people in the street and it's "Oh Well...".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 24, 2024 03:50 PM (cDEsv)

103 somewhere, in the depths of biden's bureaucracy there is a team handling these "spontaneous" campus riots

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2024 03:50 PM (V13WU)

104 My pet peeve is hearing the US described erroneously as
1. A Democracy
2. A Democratic Republic
3. A Representative Republic
4. A Constitutional Democracy
5. A Representative Democracy

An on and on and on - all wrong.
Posted by: Boswell at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (K+UlC)

Right. It's a fascist state, run by globalist oligarchs.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2024 03:50 PM (dGCAG)

105 >>And then there is AOS that uses a prehistoric one of a kind platform.

It's called 'New, new comments thingy'.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2024 03:50 PM (CAj8d)

106 60 Bananas, like marshmallows, are disgusting.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 24, 2024 03

Marshmallows are only good melted. Bananas are disgusting unless put into something else, like bread or a smoothie.

Posted by: Piper at April 24, 2024 03:51 PM (ZdaMQ)

107
6 "If we're going to have a Banana Republic can those of us who object at least get some ice cream, hot fudge and whipped cream to go along with the bananas?"

Yer talking about Banana splits aren't you? There used to be a guy around here that could help you with that.

Posted by: Outside of Life
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Come Mr. Tally man tally me banana.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 24, 2024 03:51 PM (lCWOD)

108 Comrades y'all ! COMRADES! who is funding this shite ??
Posted by: runner

The usual suspects of the Left like Soros, Qatar, China, and most probably the Democrat party.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 03:51 PM (cViPl)

109 Some call that as security by obscurity and why bank ATMs until recently used OS/2 as an operating system despite its death in the desktop realm in the 90's.

So they've upgrade to Windows ME?

Posted by: Oddbob at April 24, 2024 03:52 PM (/y8xj)

110 Great, now I've got that annoying Banana Splits theme song in my head.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 03:52 PM (9yWhg)

111 aoshq platform is as impenetrable as [fill in the blanks] !

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2024 03:52 PM (V13WU)

112 It's called 'New, new comments thingy'.
Posted by: garrett
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You share founding status. I was still on Usenet at the time.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 03:52 PM (cViPl)

113 I hope Trump has as a Deadman's switch.

Posted by: mr tmz at April 24, 2024 03:52 PM (rJ48h)

114 96 94 "Hundreds of Texas troopers went into the University of Texas at Austin on Wednesday, in the latest standoff before authorities and pro-Palestine college students.

Harvard also under another assault today

Posted by: Johnny at April 24, 2024 03:52 PM (PmiZd)

115 Johnson and other Republicans are about to make speeches on the steps of the Columbia University library. A political stunt, but it definitely sticks it up Schumer's nose

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 24, 2024 03:53 PM (Gp6oP)

116 78 >>FBI agents raiding former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022 may have been hunting for a 10-inch binder of declassified information detailing how former CIA Director John O. Brennan ordered the initial spying operation into Mr. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. ...
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This is Watergate with Nixon sending the FBI to eagerly raid Democrat offices.
And the media cheering Nixon on.
And covering for Nixon.

But we're not a fascist police state because Democrats support democracy-- it's in their name, see.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 24, 2024 03:45 PM (yikga)

++++

This is what I don't understand. He would, naturally, have gone
to Copies R Us and had a zillion photostats made and stashed all over the place. Don't they realize this? We're supposed to believe they are all in a mad search for documents in a binder?

Posted by: washrivergal at April 24, 2024 03:53 PM (F6UFz)

117 aoshq platform is as impenetrable as [fill in the blanks] !
Posted by: runner

Whoopi's withered snizz?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 03:53 PM (9yWhg)

118 "It's called 'New, new comments thingy'.
Posted by: garrett"

I like how it's the only comment section with a toolbar.

Posted by: fd at April 24, 2024 03:54 PM (vFG9F)

119 I am assuming that they have been destroyed...

He must've worked for the Hillary campaign then.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2024 03:54 PM (ynpvh)

120 114 96 94 "Hundreds of Texas troopers went into the University of Texas
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Not one billy club. Not one.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 24, 2024 03:54 PM (lCWOD)

121

https://twitter.com/BigFish3000/status/1782899392103457162

This is Julie Kelly on Warroom giving a 2 min. explanation on how they kept pushing Trump looking for some kind of violation they could prosecute on. It was entrapment on nothing.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 24, 2024 03:55 PM (Gd1oE)

122 Everything went to shit when we left New Comments thingy for New, New Comments Thingy.
Not just the Smart Military Blogs.
The whole world.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2024 03:55 PM (CAj8d)

123
Someone to definitely watch on Twitter/X:

https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2

/ all roads lead to Joe's basement while BO rails him in the cheeks

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 24, 2024 03:55 PM (RKVpM)

124 109 Some call that as security by obscurity and why bank ATMs until recently used OS/2 as an operating system despite its death in the desktop realm in the 90's.

So they've upgrade to Windows ME?
Posted by: Oddbob
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OS/2 was reliable. If I were to guess, it is probably some version of BSD Unix or customized Linux boxes nowadays.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 03:55 PM (cViPl)

125 We're at best a fading, post-constitutional empire.

At worst we've already been hollowed out to the point that there's nothing much left to save.

Soon the left will be wearing the skinsuit of a once-great nation, demanding respect.

Posted by: ballistic at April 24, 2024 03:55 PM (oqH4h)

126 This is what I don't understand. He would, naturally, have gone
to Copies R Us and had a zillion photostats made and stashed all over the place. Don't they realize this? We're supposed to believe they are all in a mad search for documents in a binder?

Posted by: washrivergal at April 24, 2024 03:53 PM

My take is the fib thought that Trump did not know what he had and they wanted to get it back before he realized what he had taken with him to Mar a largo.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 24, 2024 03:55 PM (QNSds)

127 Leave comments well enough alone or we'll get that Discuss crap.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 24, 2024 03:56 PM (lCWOD)

128 Right. It's a fascist state, run by globalist oligarchs.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2024 03:50 PM (dGCAG)

Well, the Founders didn't want it to be that way - but they did warn us that we would have to "work" to keep it a Constitutional Republic.

And they threw out on purpose any reference to "democracy" or "democratic" in our founding documents - they seemed to anticipate the fundamental problems with mob rule and loss of individualism - pretty perceptive.

Posted by: Boswell at April 24, 2024 03:56 PM (K+UlC)

129 Marshmallows are only good melted. Bananas are disgusting unless put into something else, like bread or a smoothie.
Posted by: Piper at April 24, 2024 03:51 PM (ZdaMQ)

I always get a kick out of women who eat a banana by breaking off small chunks by hand.

They do this because holding the whole thing up to their mouth might be misconstrued as mimicking an oral sex act.

My thing is though, when you break off small pieces, I know why you're doing it, and in my head I'm picturing you engaging in an oral sex act, because you're trying to get me to not picture you engaging in an oral sex act.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2024 03:56 PM (dGCAG)

130 115 Johnson and other Republicans are about to make speeches on the steps of the Columbia University library. A political stunt, but it definitely sticks it up Schumer's nose
Posted by: Smell the Glove
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Stunt for funding. The GOPe will bloviate and do nothing like bar Ivies from any public funding.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 03:57 PM (cViPl)

131
In order to save Our Democracy (TM, DNC), we had to destroy it.

Posted by: Ur Betterz at April 24, 2024 03:57 PM (lZVy/)

132 44 No way, really?

>>FBI agents raiding former President Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate in August 2022 may have been hunting for a 10-inch binder of declassified information detailing how former CIA Director John O. Brennan ordered the initial spying operation into Mr. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign.

https://tinyurl.com/2s3sbhk7
Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 03:40 PM (LkLld)

Ferrechio is a solid reporter. This is one of those "thisis old" stories, and I am also disappoint that this is a "may" story. Yeah, that may be why. Sure.

This story has been out there for a while and people as close to it as Kash Patel have been saying yes, this is probably it, and strongly hinting that Trump does have this binder.

The binder is one of those "Trusty Plan" things. If it exists, and Trump has it, why has he not used it? Well, you have to trust the plan.

Though if its a conspiracy theory, that kind of argues for it being true these days....

Posted by: blaster at April 24, 2024 03:57 PM (xhfG9)

133 NCR ATMs use the Android operating system, called NCR Kalpana, in their cloud-based thin-client software program. NCR Kalpana requires new ATMs to function fully, but it can also provide a reduced version to run on existing Windows-based ATMs to provide non-cash services.

Posted by: ballistic at April 24, 2024 03:57 PM (oqH4h)

134 130 Stunt for funding. The GOPe will bloviate and do nothing like bar Ivies from any public funding.
Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 03:57 PM (cViPl)

========

I'd support a law that forbade any university receiving any federal funding from having an endowment. All money in the endowment at the time of the law's passing must be paid, in full, to the Treasury for paying down the debt.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 24, 2024 03:57 PM (GBKbO)

135 129 My thing is though, when you break off small pieces, I know why you're doing it, and in my head I'm picturing you engaging in an oral sex act, because you're trying to get me to not picture you engaging in an oral sex act.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 24,

Burt, friend, have you been on any dates lately? Because maybe you need to go on a date. I say this with love. 😂

Posted by: Piper at April 24, 2024 03:58 PM (ZdaMQ)

136 I like how it's the only comment section with a toolbar.
Posted by: fd at April 24, 2024 03:54 PM (vFG9F)
.......

Toolbar? You must have paid for the Platinum Membership.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2024 03:58 PM (v0R5T)

137 If Trump had/has that binder, he should have declassified it and shared it with the public before the 2020 election. Expose the DeepState ... or they might steal your election and prosecute you to cover for their crime syndicate.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 24, 2024 03:58 PM (Cus5s)

138 Isn't this something we already knew or at least strongly suspected? I guess it's nice to have it in writing. Case dismissed!

No one is above the law!

Posted by: InZona at April 24, 2024 03:58 PM (1Gk78)

139 Posted by: illiniwek at April 24, 2024 03:58 PM (Cus5s)

I agree

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2024 03:58 PM (Akjoo)

140 Stunt for funding. The GOPe will bloviate and do nothing like bar Ivies from any public funding.
Posted by: whig

A cunning stunt by a stunning cvnt.

Posted by: Ur Betterz at April 24, 2024 03:59 PM (lZVy/)

141 Well, the Founders didn't want it to be that way - but they did warn us that we would have to "work" to keep it a Constitutional Republic.

And they threw out on purpose any reference to "democracy" or "democratic" in our founding documents - they seemed to anticipate the fundamental problems with mob rule and loss of individualism - pretty perceptive.

Posted by: Boswell at April 24, 2024 03:56 PM (K+UlC)

Sure, but we ended up here anyway.

Not unlike the guy who builds a fortress, complete with a fallout shelter, and does everything he can think of to supply the shelter, so he can sustain himself and those he loves.

But doesn't put a lock on the gate, and in no time, once the SHTF, he's overrun by hordes of heathens.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2024 03:59 PM (dGCAG)

142 Well, the Founders didn't want it to be that way - but they did warn us that we would have to "work" to keep it a Constitutional Republic.

Posted by: Boswell at April 24, 2024 03:56 PM (K+UlC)

They also said the Constitution was only suitable for the governance of a moral and religious people....

Posted by: ballistic at April 24, 2024 03:59 PM (oqH4h)

143 My take is the fib thought that Trump did not know what he had and they wanted to get it back before he realized what he had taken with him to Mar a largo.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 24, 2024 03:55 PM (QNSds)

My take is that there is nothing there and they just ginned something up to jam Trump up. They weren't looking for anything in particular.

Posted by: blaster at April 24, 2024 03:59 PM (xhfG9)

144 125 We're at best a fading, post-constitutional empire.

At worst we've already been hollowed out to the point that there's nothing much left to save.

Soon the left will be wearing the skinsuit of a once-great nation, demanding respect.
Posted by: ballistic
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They don't have the time left to parade. The massive crunch is coming which is why Biden's handlers have him proposing a tax on paper gains for assets as a way of taking them by forcing liquidation of the assets to pay the taxes. Even the normies are gonna get that one because of the estates involved with their parents.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:00 PM (cViPl)

145 And just so you're clear:
They haven't stopped spying on Trump.

They have a current, undisclosed spy op on him to this day.

That's what's in the binder.
As much as the proof of how they ginned up the whole collusion scam.

Also, consider the reason for the timing of the current trial, the refusals to delay, the refusals to excuse Trump from attending:

Because they are trying to limit who Trump sees and talks to (as they have an unlimited wiretap from their friends in the SDNY) to try and flush out who is in his real campaign.

Cause the current spying is clearly only on his fake campaign, run just for the FBI spies.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 24, 2024 04:00 PM (yikga)

146 143 My take is the fib thought that Trump did not know what he had and they wanted to get it back before he realized what he had taken with him to Mar a largo.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 24, 2024 03:55 PM (QNSds)

My take is that there is nothing there and they just ginned something up to jam Trump up. They weren't looking for anything in particular.
Posted by: blaster
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I would agree--they have identified the man--all they need to do is find and invent the crimes in the best Felix Dzerzhinsky fashion.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:01 PM (cViPl)

147
Be right back: Putting kiddie porn pics on multiple computers of people connecting the dots.

See your hard drive light blinking like crazy? That's democracy in action!

Posted by: Bob from NSA at April 24, 2024 04:01 PM (RKVpM)

148 How about marshmallows and banana flavor together?! I give you.... Circus Peanuts!

Posted by: InZona at April 24, 2024 04:01 PM (1Gk78)

149 My thing is though, when you break off small pieces, I know why you're doing it, and in my head I'm picturing you engaging in an oral sex act, because you're trying to get me to not picture you engaging in an oral sex act.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 24,

Burt, friend, have you been on any dates lately? Because maybe you need to go on a date. I say this with love. 😂
Posted by: Piper at April 24, 2024 03:58 PM (ZdaMQ)

I'm past saving. A good woman might be able to, but alas, I've given up on believing there are any left who aren't already taking care of some sorry sot like myself.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2024 04:02 PM (dGCAG)

150 I'll bet the binder is either nothing or it doesn't exist. After all, with these creeps, nothing ever be written down. They all know what to do. No instructions or orders are necessary.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 24, 2024 04:02 PM (MeG8a)

151 The rally at the Austin campus was organized by the university's Palestine Solidarity Committee (PSJ) chapter.

The group said it was inspired by their 'comrades' at Rutgers, Yale and Columbia University, where in-person classes have been canceled due to the unrest sparked by an 'encampment for Gaza.'"
Posted by: runner at April 24, 2024 03:49 PM (V13WU)

When I attended UT in the 80's, they had a shack built on the west mall to protest apartheid in South Africa. It was routinely burned down and rebuilt at least twice a year.

SSDD.

Posted by: hobbitopoly at April 24, 2024 04:02 PM (XPM1I)

152 Once they execute Trump for treason everything will go back to normal.

Posted by: ... at April 24, 2024 04:02 PM (gcL9G)

153 aoshq platform is as impenetrable as [fill in the blanks] !

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2024 03:52 PM (V13WU)

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Adam Schitt's throat? Jerry Nadler's gunt folds?

/BTW, is there any gold in Fort Knox now?

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 24, 2024 04:02 PM (MJv9a)

154 Speaking of bureaucrats, somebody set me some documentts on the new EPA regulations on refrigerants. Pages and pages of rules, regulation and reporting (the new three R's). It is going to turn the HVAC industry upside down in the next year ad add enormous cost to construction projects It will make most AC equipment obsoletes and there is not much to replace it at this point.

But, as the EPA states, the benefit are enormous, mostly because we are not destroying the climate.

Nobody know much about this yet or how to comply but will be finding out. And expect a lot of whining from the snowflakes and AWFL's about how the soaring cost of new homes. This is f***ing inanity. But at least it will be 0.1 F cooler in 100 years, maybe.

Posted by: Ripley at April 24, 2024 04:02 PM (JojsZ)

155 Hey guys, this all looks shady, but remember, they're Saving Democracy by weaponizing the government's intelligence and "law" enforcement arms against political opponents.

Raping virgins to preserve virginity
Sodomizing boys to preserve heterosexuality
Engaging in Socialism/Communism to save Capitalism
Overt Fascism to save Democracy

Yup, all adds up, 1984-style.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2024 04:03 PM (ynpvh)

156 I like how it's the only comment section with a toolbar.
Posted by: fd at April 24, 2024 03:54 PM (vFG9F)
.......

Toolbar? You must have paid for the Platinum Membership.
Posted by: wth

He helps Ace out with shelving tips.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 04:03 PM (9yWhg)

157 The group said it was inspired by their 'comrades' at Rutgers, Yale and Columbia University, where in-person classes have been canceled due to the unrest sparked by an 'encampment for Gaza.'"
Posted by: runner at April 24, 2024 03:49 PM (V13WU)
++++
So they're trying to get out of classes, too?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 04:03 PM (HnUIn)

158 /BTW, is there any gold in Fort Knox now?
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 24, 2024 04:02 PM (MJv9a)

*shifty-eyes*

Posted by: Auric G. at April 24, 2024 04:03 PM (OguvZ)

159 Once they execute Trump for treason everything will go back to normal.

Posted by: ... at April 24, 2024 04:02 PM (gcL9G)

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We just need better candidates, like DeSantis & Haley.

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 24, 2024 04:04 PM (MJv9a)

160 145 And just so you're clear:
They haven't stopped spying on Trump.

They have a current, undisclosed spy op on him to this day.

That's what's in the binder.
As much as the proof of how they ginned up the whole collusion scam.

Also, consider the reason for the timing of the current trial, the refusals to delay, the refusals to excuse Trump from attending:

Because they are trying to limit who Trump sees and talks to (as they have an unlimited wiretap from their friends in the SDNY) to try and flush out who is in his real campaign.

Cause the current spying is clearly only on his fake campaign, run just for the FBI spies.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
========
The PTB are essentially doomed by their own idiocy. If a person knows that they are being spied upon and beset by traitors, etc; it is easy to resort to disinformation, secure comms via courier, and multiple 'leaks' to figure out who are informants, media sources, etc.

Other politicians in other places have long had to resort to such methods because the rule of law is absent.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:04 PM (cViPl)

161 >>My take is the fib thought that Trump did not know what he had and they wanted to get it back before he realized what he had taken with him to Mar a largo.

He knew. He spent his last few months in office working to get the information released to the public. The intel community fought him and blocked him. So he took them with him after declassifying the documents.

Nobody seriously believes Trump took nuclear secrets or anything that would hurt the country. Unlike the cabal in DC he actually loves the country, the one we used to have.

I think he still has them and now realizes that the thing keeping him from an unfortunate accident is possession of those docs.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 04:04 PM (LkLld)

162
My take is that there is nothing there and they just ginned something up to jam Trump up. They weren't looking for anything in particular.

Posted by: blaster at April 24, 2024 03:59 PM (xhfG9)

++++

My take, too. Remember how photographed the splayed folders on the floor that said "Top Secret" in an effort to prove that Trump had unwarranted possession of government material.
So phony.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 24, 2024 04:04 PM (F6UFz)

163 OT-The intrusive google thing which gives (stupid) suggested articles based on either what site I'm on or my e-mails, just gave me this one: "Reasons why men get grumpier as they get older." It must know I'm on ASHQ. Lots of reasons for grumpiness based on the political articles. However, I think it's non gender based grumpiness.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2024 04:04 PM (XkYcA)

164 152 Once they execute Trump for treason everything will go back to normal.
Posted by: ...
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They prefer to have him killed in prison is my thought. Risky either way.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:05 PM (cViPl)

165 When I attended UT in the 80's, they had a shack built on the west mall to protest apartheid in South Africa.

They had one of those on the Diag at Michigan in the 80s, too. I thought it was ridiculous, pretentious crap. I don't remember its ever getting burned down, though.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 04:05 PM (9yWhg)

166 >>> Even the normies are gonna get that one because of the estates involved with their parents.

Posted by: whig
-------------------

That will prick the ears of the youngsters.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 24, 2024 04:05 PM (lCWOD)

167 /BTW, is there any gold in Fort Knox now?
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor
.......

It was moved to Oak Island a long time ago.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2024 04:06 PM (v0R5T)

168 May I present "Free Palestine Drag Queen Story Hour." Yes, it's a real thing, and there's video.

https://shorturl.at/fkEKZ

-
Well worth seeing the video. Tranny has the elementary age kids chanting "Free Palestine" in response to "If you're a drag queen and you know it shout . . ."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 24, 2024 04:06 PM (FVME7)

169 153 aoshq platform is as impenetrable as [fill in the blanks] !

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2024 03:52 PM (V13WU)

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Adam Schitt's throat? Jerry Nadler's gunt folds?

/BTW, is there any gold in Fort Knox now?

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 24, 2024 04:02 PM (MJv9a)

There was some congressman who wanted to, but ended up dead on a plane crash or something...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2024 04:06 PM (ynpvh)

170 165 When I attended UT in the 80's, they had a shack built on the west mall to protest apartheid in South Africa.

That really worked out well

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2024 04:06 PM (Akjoo)

171 163 OT-The intrusive google thing which gives (stupid) suggested articles based on either what site I'm on or my e-mails, just gave me this one: "Reasons why men get grumpier as they get older." It must know I'm on ASHQ. Lots of reasons for grumpiness based on the political articles. However, I think it's non gender based grumpiness.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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I don't use gmail for that reason other than a spam account.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:06 PM (cViPl)

172 167 /BTW, is there any gold in Fort Knox now?
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor
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It's in the Chase Manhattan Bank across the street from the Federal Bldg.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 24, 2024 04:07 PM (lCWOD)

173 OT-The intrusive google thing which gives (stupid) suggested articles based on either what site I'm on or my e-mails, just gave me this one: "Reasons why men get grumpier as they get older." It must know I'm on ASHQ. Lots of reasons for grumpiness based on the political articles. However, I think it's non gender based grumpiness.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Both men and women can be grumpy. But it's only the men who ever tell people to get off their lawn.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 04:08 PM (9yWhg)

174 In the 80s protestors built a "Reaganville" on the Mall in DC.

YAF - which then was Young Americans for Freedom - members from American University used to go down to the Mall on the weekends and kick over their shanties. I almost quit my school so I could go to AU. Almost.

Posted by: blaster at April 24, 2024 04:09 PM (xhfG9)

175 166 >>> Even the normies are gonna get that one because of the estates involved with their parents.

Posted by: whig
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That will prick the ears of the youngsters.
Posted by: Braenyard
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Biden's junta has been talking about taxing the increase in asset price for awhile on estates. This last week, it was more like assets such as investment accounts, etc, in general.

I think the Treasury Dept is facing the failure of bond auctions in the near future given the Fed's refusal to raise interest rates. Once that failure hits, it will have pretty strong effects worldwide with liquidity drying up.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:09 PM (cViPl)

176 Once they execute Trump for treason everything will go back to normal.
Posted by: ...

Not exactly.

Wall Street Silver
@WallStreetSilv
"The White House is now considering declaring a national climate emergency."
"If Joe Biden declares a national climate emergency, he would have COVID-like powers. He would impose the Green New Deal on America without a vote in Congress"
The AP is urging other news outlets to use the term "Climate Crisis"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 24, 2024 04:09 PM (FVME7)

177 Improperly retained government documents??

How about illegally took possession of classified documents? Stalin would approve.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Monkey without a country at April 24, 2024 04:09 PM (hKZ+8)

178 Love my historic country and countrymen. Hate these traitors and evil-doers in our government and in our schools and in our MIC. When the bomb hits DC, and it will someday, either literally or figuratively, I hope it will be televised for all to watch.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at April 24, 2024 04:09 PM (s6PBU)

179 1/32 B-24? Why not, go with the B-17.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 24, 2024 03:44 PM (gzX6N)

That would sink his battle ship!

Posted by: Just Lily at April 24, 2024 04:10 PM (g1WJ4)

180 Larry McDonald is who I remember arguing to do that. Ended up going down with the Korean Air Lines jetliner being shot down by the USSR back in the day.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:10 PM (cViPl)

181 The group said it was inspired by their 'comrades' at Rutgers, Yale and Columbia University, where in-person classes have been canceled due to the unrest sparked by an 'encampment for Gaza.'"

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2024 03:49 PM

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Who could have seen this coming?

/Me, 40 years ago walking through the Stanford Quad & Administration Buildings while America-Hating Commies chanted "Hey Hey Ho Ho -- Western Civ Has Got To Go." (And some years later, they got their wish/demand as the Western Civilization course requirement was eliminated.)

Slowly at first, then all at once ..

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 24, 2024 04:10 PM (MJv9a)

182 175
...
I think the Treasury Dept is facing the failure of bond auctions in the near future given the Fed's refusal to raise interest rates. Once that failure hits, it will have pretty strong effects worldwide with liquidity drying up.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:09 PM (cViPl)

Hmmm...you'd think that'd cause a recession or depression, while at the same time the US $$$ printers are going Brrrrrrrr!...
It's like the patient is being given both stimultants and depressants at the same time...how wil the body react?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2024 04:11 PM (ynpvh)

183 Once that failure hits, it will have pretty strong effects worldwide with liquidity drying up.
Posted by: whig

It'll be OK. Nancy Pelosi has personal experience with that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 04:11 PM (9yWhg)

184 When I attended UT in the 80's, they had a shack built on the west mall to protest apartheid in South Africa.

That was about the time that Rolling Rock beer was popular on campus.

And owned by a South African company.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 24, 2024 04:11 PM (c6Dkq)

185 "Reasons why men get grumpier as they get older."
.......

1. The chicks get wrinkly and saggy.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2024 04:11 PM (v0R5T)

186 /BTW, is there any gold in Fort Knox now?
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 24, 2024 04:02 PM (MJv9a)

Absolutely. The lead ingots on the top and outer sides of every stack of lead ingots are gold-plated.

Posted by: Gref at April 24, 2024 04:11 PM (5fDan)

187 Speaking of bureaucrats, somebody set me some documentts on the new EPA regulations on refrigerants. Pages and pages of rules, regulation and reporting (the new three R's). It is going to turn the HVAC industry upside down in the next year ad add enormous cost to construction projects It will make most AC equipment obsoletes and there is not much to replace it at this point. ...
Posted by: Ripley at April 24, 2024 04:02 PM (JojsZ)
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One of the junta's industrial partners will be awarded the rights to sell the only legal refrigerant.

There is no reason to replace R410A, and there was no reason to replace R22 (which ushered in R410A). And with forcing out R410A, they will surely not be replacing it with generic, easily produced and easily obtained R32, which is used throughout the world.

No, of course not. It will probably go to R454B, which is moderately environmentally "better" than R32 (lower "Global Warming Potential" score - no joke, that's what it's called), much more expensive, and mildly flammable. And has relatively few manufacturers and is harder to get. But Honeywell will happily sell you some, just like with R410A.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 04:12 PM (HnUIn)

188 Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:06 PM (cViPl)

Yes; I should find something else. One of the last ads, however, gave me a picture of the face of sultry pinup girl who looked like someone from the 40's and the article title linked was "Ways to fight temptation." No, some girl who looks might she might be a picture to hang up in the barracks of a 1940 G.I. is not what's tempting me, so all I did was laugh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2024 04:12 PM (XkYcA)

189 They also said the Constitution was only suitable for the governance of a moral and religious people....

Posted by: ballistic at April 24, 2024 03:59 PM (oqH4h)

It was the most difficult to keep, altruistic governmental experiment to ever be conceived - just because human nature is for every governance system to devolve into exactly what the Dems want us to be - one party or self-selected elite class to rule all others by mob force. But they had to try, because it was the only system that fit their religious and moral consciences.

Posted by: Boswell at April 24, 2024 04:12 PM (K+UlC)

190 >>My take, too. Remember how photographed the splayed folders on the floor that said "Top Secret" in an effort to prove that Trump had unwarranted possession of government material.
So phony.

What's not phony is somebody took a binder of information on the CIA's involvement in the entirely made up Russia collusion hoax. The CIA is corrupt as hell but they don't usually misplace information that proves it.

Kash Patel has confirmed the existence of the binder. He was the one in charge of working with the intel community to get the information releases.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 04:12 PM (LkLld)

191 177 Improperly retained government documents??

How about illegally took possession of classified documents? Stalin would approve.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Monkey without a country at April 24, 2024 04:09 PM (hKZ+

All Trump would've had to say, Pope-like, is that the boxes are all declassified info now. AFAIK, he didn't do that while still President. Wouldn't have mattered, as I'm sure the Obamanites would've gone after him anyway.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2024 04:13 PM (ynpvh)

192 191 All Trump would've had to say, Pope-like, is that the boxes are all declassified info now. AFAIK, he didn't do that while still President. Wouldn't have mattered, as I'm sure the Obamanites would've gone after him anyway.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2024 04:13 PM (ynpvh)

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It's my understanding that he did.

In fact, I recall the back and forth of his final days when it became common knowledge that the president had less declassification powers than unnamed bureaucrats because they were refusing to do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 24, 2024 04:13 PM (GBKbO)

193 Dane
@UltraDane
NY Judge: The Second Amendment Doesn't Exist Here. ‘Do not bring the Second Amendment into this courtroom. It doesn’t exist here. So you can’t argue Second Amendment. This is New York.'
Judge Abena Darkeh, suggesting that the Second Amendment doesn't apply anywhere she doesn't approve? What other rights don't exist in New York under Judge Darkeh's paradigm? Do defendants not have the right to representation? Is free speech non-existent?
You think Trump will get a fair trial in New York?

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Not that first amendment freedom of speech and freedom of religion crap!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I've Been Through the Desert On a Horse With No Shame at April 24, 2024 04:14 PM (FVME7)

194 If we're going to have a Banana Republic can those of us who object at least get some ice cream, hot fudge and whipped cream to go along with the bananas?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2024 03:30 PM (XkYcA)

sorry, Fenelon. It is going to be overpriced cotton khaki, faded olive drabs, epaulets and bellows pockets smashing your fashion sense, forever.

"In The Banana Republic The Future Is Beige"

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2024 04:14 PM (D7oie)

195 OK. I knew I wasn't going to make any friends with that one.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2024 04:14 PM (v0R5T)

196 if god willing trump wins in november, you can bet that the shredders at the white house and elsewhere will be running 23 hours a day. you gotta turn them off occasionally or they burn out and it might look suspicious if they start buying a lot of new ones right around december 1.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at April 24, 2024 04:14 PM (B1FKF)

197 By now, this redhead in (and on) red cannot be surprised by "revelations" about naked police state shit out of the US government:
http://tiny.cc/uhiuxz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 04:14 PM (HnUIn)

198 Johnson and other Republicans are about to make speeches on the steps of the Columbia University library. A political stunt, but it definitely sticks it up Schumer's nose

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 24, 2024 03:53 PM (Gp6oP)

I'm not so sure it will.

Seems like an "out" for Democrats who need to shore up support in say, Michigan. Omar's kid, is now The Face of the Resistance. Now, the Republicans will be The Face of Evil Oppression or some such.

It works out perfectly for Schumer.

Posted by: DaisyB at April 24, 2024 04:15 PM (AbL8c)

199 Also, consider the reason for the timing of the current trial, the refusals to delay, the refusals to excuse Trump from attending:

Because they are trying to limit who Trump sees and talks to (as they have an unlimited wiretap from their friends in the SDNY) to try and flush out who is in his real campaign.

Cause the current spying is clearly only on his fake campaign, run just for the FBI spies.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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Because the intel community believes no one reads history and many of them have been maleducated by our colleges, they are in essence blind.

The radio wireless game between the Brits and the Germans and the primarily British deception operations surrounding the Normandy invasion give clear indications how to conduct oneself under pervasive surveillance. Even ole Osama did the same thing which throughly screwed up the intel community attempts to find him for years. Course it helped that Paki intel was keeping him hidden for their own sakes but notice that his Egyptian lieutenant is still running around somewhere directing what is left of their network.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:15 PM (cViPl)

200 What's not phony is somebody took a binder of information on the CIA's involvement in the entirely made up Russia collusion hoax. The CIA is corrupt as hell but they don't usually misplace information that proves it.

Kash Patel has confirmed the existence of the binder. He was the one in charge of working with the intel community to get the information releases.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 04:12 PM (LkLld)

++++

Then it goes back to my first question. Why wouldn't they think Trump was not astute enough to have made dozens of copies and hidden them in very secure places?

Posted by: washrivergal at April 24, 2024 04:15 PM (F6UFz)

201 It's in the Chase Manhattan Bank across the street from the Federal Bldg."

or "all that gold was removed from Building 7 right before 9/11, along with evidence of massive DeepState crimes".

Posted by: illiniwek at April 24, 2024 04:16 PM (Cus5s)

202 192 191 All Trump would've had to say, Pope-like, is that the boxes are all declassified info now. AFAIK, he didn't do that while still President. Wouldn't have mattered, as I'm sure the Obamanites would've gone after him anyway.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2024 04:13 PM (ynpvh)

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It's my understanding that he did.

In fact, I recall the back and forth of his final days when it became common knowledge that the president had less declassification powers than unnamed bureaucrats because they were refusing to do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 24, 2024 04:13 PM (GBKbO)

On all the boxes shipped to Mar-a-Lago?
And yes, the proof of what happened shows that a President has less of a declassification power than bureaucrats (the law and Constitution be damned!).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2024 04:16 PM (ynpvh)

203 198 I'm not so sure it will.

Seems like an "out" for Democrats who need to shore up support in say, Michigan. Omar's kid, is now The Face of the Resistance. Now, the Republicans will be The Face of Evil Oppression or some such.

It works out perfectly for Schumer.
Posted by: DaisyB at April 24, 2024 04:15 PM (AbL8c)

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Detroit saying that there are 1000 votes in boxes with only 10 is what's going to win Michigan for Biden.

None of these theatrics will do it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 24, 2024 04:16 PM (GBKbO)

204 By now, this redhead in (and on) red cannot be surprised by "revelations" about naked police state shit out of the US government:
http://tiny.cc/uhiuxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
......

Nice elbow.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2024 04:16 PM (v0R5T)

205 Wouldn’t it be something to see if this guy had guts enough to……..resign in a permanent way?

Posted by: Eromero at April 24, 2024 04:17 PM (NxC5+)

206 It looks like perhaps Judge Cannon, by not dismissing this sham of a mockery of justice, is able to suss out the dirty dealings that went on in DC to set up this case before bringing it to Florida to be rubber stamped. Good for her if that's the case.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 24, 2024 04:17 PM (NIFNC)

207 202 On all the boxes shipped to Mar-a-Lago?
And yes, the proof of what happened shows that a President has less of a declassification power than bureaucrats (the law and Constitution be damned!).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2024 04:16 PM (ynpvh)

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I believe the order was declassifying everything to do with Russian collusion.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 24, 2024 04:17 PM (GBKbO)

208 By now, this redhead in (and on) red cannot be surprised by "revelations" about naked police state shit out of the US government:
http://tiny.cc/uhiuxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Don't know what that thing is that she's playing with, but I would give her something else to play with if I were single.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 04:17 PM (9yWhg)

209 Soon the left will be wearing the skinsuit of a once-great nation, demanding respect.

Posted by: ballistic

Uh, chief, we've been there for quite some time.

Don't know what this crap is with folks so consistently about a decade behind reality, but hey.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at April 24, 2024 04:17 PM (OUMaO)

210
By now, this redhead in (and on) red cannot be surprised by "revelations" about naked police state shit out of the US government:

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 04:14 PM

She looks like she's ready to say, "I'm tired of your shit" and bash you in the balls with whatever is in her hand.

0/10 WNB. Be better.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 24, 2024 04:18 PM (RKVpM)

211 I think the Treasury Dept is facing the failure of bond auctions in the near future given the Fed's refusal to raise interest rates. Once that failure hits, it will have pretty strong effects worldwide with liquidity drying up.
Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:09 PM (cViPl)

Could you put that in English? Does it mean "all money is going to go hide in a sock under the mattress" or does it mean "the US will have to start issuing real IOUs instead of Treasuries" or does it mean that anyone with a view to the future is going to start buying Yen?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2024 04:18 PM (D7oie)

212 Then it goes back to my first question. Why wouldn't they think Trump was not astute enough to have made dozens of copies and hidden them in very secure places?
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Cuz he's too busy watching the Gorilla Channel?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 24, 2024 04:19 PM (NIFNC)

213 207 202 On all the boxes shipped to Mar-a-Lago?
And yes, the proof of what happened shows that a President has less of a declassification power than bureaucrats (the law and Constitution be damned!).
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2024 04:16 PM (ynpvh)

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I believe the order was declassifying everything to do with Russian collusion.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 24, 2024 04:17 PM (GBKbO)

Ah, so legally, if it wasn't connected to Russian Collusion, it wasn't covered. Just have the deep-state apparatchiks sip a few "extra" things in those boxes and magically he took things not covered. Then again, I'm taking lawful and constitutional, which we don't have anymore.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 24, 2024 04:19 PM (ynpvh)

214 Detroit saying that there are 1000 votes in boxes with only 10 is what's going to win Michigan for Biden.

None of these theatrics will do it.
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True the ballots will be there as needed.

But this does let them fan the flames for another summer of riots with Republicans now framed as the cause. Again.

Posted by: DaisyB at April 24, 2024 04:19 PM (AbL8c)

215 This big quest for one binder is looking like a Lord of the Rings situation.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 24, 2024 04:19 PM (F6UFz)

216 I think the Treasury Dept is facing the failure of bond auctions in the near future given the Fed's refusal to raise interest rates. Once that failure hits, it will have pretty strong effects worldwide with liquidity drying up.
Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:09 PM (cViPl)
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It's very hard for a Treasury bond auction to actually fail, because the primary dealers have to buy them.

But the Treasury might not like the price demanded.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 04:19 PM (HnUIn)

217 Both men and women can be grumpy. But it's only the men who ever tell people to get off their lawn.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 04:08 PM (9yWhg)

Hate has no home here.

Posted by: Karen at April 24, 2024 04:19 PM (nvKZ7)

218 Cuz he's too busy watching the Gorilla Channel?
Posted by: Chuck Martel

I hope he's watching it on his phone in the courtroom.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 04:20 PM (9yWhg)

219 By now, this redhead in (and on) red cannot be surprised by "revelations" about naked police state shit out of the US government:
http://tiny.cc/uhiuxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 04:14 PM (HnUIn)

Shaved her oxters, that is a plus.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2024 04:20 PM (D7oie)

220 Yes; I should find something else. One of the last ads, however, gave me a picture of the face of sultry pinup girl who looked like someone from the 40's and the article title linked was "Ways to fight temptation." No, some girl who looks might she might be a picture to hang up in the barracks of a 1940 G.I. is not what's tempting me, so all I did was laugh.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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All email is to be regarded as compromised especially with the recent FISA where everyone at government request has to secretly spy on everyone else provision. But Proton and a few others in the EU are decent due to Euroland regulations on privacy which the US ignores because the intel and law enforcement community wants to read everyone's mail.

Keep the gmail for ecommerce trash and use the other one for actual correspondence like with parishioners that one does not care to share with advertisers.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:20 PM (cViPl)

221 Without earphones.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 04:20 PM (9yWhg)

222
"In The Banana Republic The Future Is Beige"

Posted by: Kindltot
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But the women will look good in those tight shirts with bellows pockets.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 24, 2024 04:20 PM (lCWOD)

223 Uh, chief, we've been there for quite some time.

Don't know what this crap is with folks so consistently about a decade behind reality, but hey.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at April 24, 2024 04:17 PM (OUMaO)
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To hell with Nick Saban, Dabo Swinney for prez.

Posted by: ballistic at April 24, 2024 04:20 PM (jgwCD)

224 >>Then it goes back to my first question. Why wouldn't they think Trump was not astute enough to have made dozens of copies and hidden them in very secure places?

I'm sure they do think so. Yet another reason they are running endless bullshit legal cases against him.

Think about the impact a release of that kind of information would have. Involvement in the Russia hoax went well beyond the CIA. The State Dept was deeply involved, so was the FBI. Current and former senior politicians were involved. Foreign governments were involved inclduing Ukraine.

They aren't just trying to beat Trump, they are trying to crush him. What they are doing to him and his supporters is like nothing that has ever happened in this country before. They are desperate.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 04:21 PM (LkLld)

225 109 Some call that as security by obscurity and why bank ATMs until recently used OS/2 as an operating system despite its death in the desktop realm in the 90's.

So they've upgrade to Windows ME?

Posted by: Oddbob at April 24, 2024 03:52 PM (/y8xj)
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NeXTSTEP

Posted by: Ciampino - You mentioned obscure OSs? at April 24, 2024 04:21 PM (qfLjt)

226 Shaved her oxters, that is a plus.
Posted by: Kindltot

Wow. Bonus points for "oxters."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 04:21 PM (9yWhg)

227 NeXTSTEP
Posted by: Ciampino - You mentioned obscure OSs? at April 24, 2024 04:21 PM (qfLjt)
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Apple makes ATMs now?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 04:22 PM (HnUIn)

228
or "all that gold was removed from Building 7 right before 9/11, along with evidence of massive DeepState crimes".

Posted by: illiniwek at April 24, 2024 04:16 PM

I don't buy into any of the 9/11 conspiracy stuff, but damn if there isn't a 'Secret Service' agent in a video inside building 7 before it collapses on X this morning.

I need a new drug.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 24, 2024 04:22 PM (RKVpM)

229 Shaved her oxters, that is a plus.
______

Where's the oxter located? Does it even exist?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 24, 2024 04:23 PM (NIFNC)

230 What's not phony is somebody took a binder of information on the CIA's involvement in the entirely made up Russia collusion hoax. The CIA is corrupt as hell but they don't usually misplace information that proves it.

Kash Patel has confirmed the existence of the binder. He was the one in charge of working with the intel community to get the information releases.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 04:12 PM (LkLld)

Not quite. As I said Kash said the binder existed, strongly hinted that Trump had it and that it was the target of the FBI raid (as I recall he did not volunteer this but he was asked and he answered it certainly could be). The IC for its part has not said that it produced a binder of its attack on Trump - not that they would - but neither have they acknowledged that they attacked Trump.

I like Kash Patel, I like what he has to say, but he often seems to promise more than what is actually revealed.

Posted by: blaster at April 24, 2024 04:23 PM (xhfG9)

231 Where's the oxter located? Does it even exist?
Posted by: Chuck Martel

Alternate term for "armpit."

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 04:23 PM (9yWhg)

232 But did she shave her oyster?

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2024 04:24 PM (v0R5T)

233 They aren't just trying to beat Trump, they are trying to crush him. What they are doing to him and his supporters is like nothing that has ever happened in this country before. They are desperate.
____

When's the best time to release the info? I would have given it up already.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 24, 2024 04:24 PM (NIFNC)

234 I think the Treasury Dept is facing the failure of bond auctions in the near future given the Fed's refusal to raise interest rates. Once that failure hits, it will have pretty strong effects worldwide with liquidity drying up.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:09 PM (cViPl)
==
Who is selling bonds at higher yields than us? That you would buy?

Posted by: Black JEM at April 24, 2024 04:24 PM (GZYu7)

235 As I said earlier, ALL of the prosecutions have been directed and coordinated from the white house.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at April 24, 2024 04:24 PM (lTGtQ)

236 >>>I need a new drug.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 24, 2024 04:22 PM (RKVpM)

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One that won't make your face break out?

Posted by: Turn 2 at April 24, 2024 04:25 PM (TxGVz)

237 But did she shave her oyster?
Posted by: wth at April 24, 2024 04:24 PM (v0R5T)

Come say hello to the Oyster Bunny - Joey Bdien

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at April 24, 2024 04:25 PM (NtVYv)

238
Where's the oxter located? Does it even exist?
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It's on the coast, north of Malibu I think.

Posted by: DaisyB at April 24, 2024 04:25 PM (AbL8c)

239 231 Where's the oxter located? Does it even exist?
Posted by: Chuck Martel

Alternate term for "armpit."
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Ah. I know where to find THAT.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 24, 2024 04:25 PM (NIFNC)

240 I'm sure they do think so. Yet another reason they are running endless bullshit legal cases against him.

Think about the impact a release of that kind of information would have. Involvement in the Russia hoax went well beyond the CIA. The State Dept was deeply involved, so was the FBI. Current and former senior politicians were involved. Foreign governments were involved inclduing Ukraine.

They aren't just trying to beat Trump, they are trying to crush him. What they are doing to him and his supporters is like nothing that has ever happened in this country before. They are desperate.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 04:21 PM (LkLld)

++++

Yes, I can see why they are trying like hell to turn Trump into mincemeat by crushing his spirit, his money, his campaign as their vengeance.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 24, 2024 04:25 PM (F6UFz)

241 @ElonMusk is in a battle against the Australian government to stop the World Economic Forum from silencing citizens and independent journalists worldwide. Here’s everything you need to know:

https://bit.ly/4b8BzZk

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 24, 2024 04:26 PM (P5BPp)

242 It's very hard for a Treasury bond auction to actually fail, because the primary dealers have to buy them.

But the Treasury might not like the price demanded.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Last week, the Treasury had problems selling that week's bonds and law does not prevent the law of supply and demand from working. At first, it will be terms where the market will insist on short term bonds rather than longer term bonds or a much higher yield. Sooner or later, it will essentially be that the Fed has to monetize the debt by taking on the burden from the primary dealers.

Next twelve months requires 10 TRILLION in federal government refinancing of bonds.

Getting close to the tipping point here.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:27 PM (cViPl)

243 SPACE NEWS
Today's launch got scrubbed (yeah, it's much cleaner now. All that soot from the burning kerosene is gone).
Next launch tomorrow Thursday, April 25, 11:30 a.m. PDT, 2:30 p.m. EDT, 18:30 UTC, and 20:30 CEST from SLC-4E of the Vandenberg Space Force Base in California.

https://www.youtube.com/live/q5hf7QpVB_w

Vandenberg launches get scrubbed so often that it has been dubbed Vandelay. Mainly wind problems at the recovery ship site.

Posted by: Ciampino - Vandelay from Seinfeld? at April 24, 2024 04:27 PM (qfLjt)

244 But did she shave her oyster?
Posted by: wth at April 24, 2024 04:24 PM (v0R5T)

Wouldn't that make her "ostracized" , or am I thinking of something else?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2024 04:28 PM (D7oie)

245 217 Both men and women can be grumpy. But it's only the men who ever tell people to get off their lawn.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 24, 2024 04:08 PM (9yWhg)

Hate has no home here.

Posted by: Karen at April 24, 2024 04:19 PM (nvKZ7)

H@te has home HERE! Get off my lawn NOW or my brother Achmed will (REDACTED outside Gaza) to you not once but twice!!!!

Posted by: Gaza Karen at April 24, 2024 04:28 PM (5fDan)

246 228

I don't buy into any of the 9/11 conspiracy stuff, but damn if there isn't a 'Secret Service' agent in a video inside building 7 before it collapses on X this morning.

I need a new drug.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 24, 2024

Wait, what? Do you have a link? I am hoping there is a real explanation for it. Can you imagine if all these conspiracies turn out to be true? That will be one heck of a plot twist.

Posted by: Piper at April 24, 2024 04:28 PM (ZdaMQ)

247 What they are doing to him and his supporters is like nothing that has ever happened in this country before. They are desperate.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 04:21 PM (LkLld)
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And they just might be winning.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 24, 2024 04:28 PM (ju2Fy)

248 The ones in his unlocked garage?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 24, 2024 03:36 PM (GBKbO)

The ones he showed to a biographer, TELLING him they were classified... BEFORE he was President.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2024 04:28 PM (xaFKb)

249 It's on the coast, north of Malibu I think.
Posted by: DaisyB at April 24, 2024 04:25 PM (AbL8c)

this pun makes me grunion

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2024 04:29 PM (D7oie)

250 Posted by: washrivergal at April 24, 2024 04:25 PM (F6UFz)

They couldn't care less about Donald Trump. He was never an obstacle and never will be. You're the obstacle. You're the one they're trying to demoralize with these show trials.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 24, 2024 04:29 PM (0FoWg)

251 >>Not quite. As I said Kash said the binder existed, strongly hinted that Trump had it and that it was the target of the FBI raid (as I recall he did not volunteer this but he was asked and he answered it certainly could be). The IC for its part has not said that it produced a binder of its attack on Trump - not that they would - but neither have they acknowledged that they attacked Trump.

According to the CNN article I posted above the intel community confirmed the existence of the binder and that it was missing wthen they briefed the intel community last year. It also went missing at the end of Trump's term.

It was reported for months by none other than the author of the article that this thread is based on that Kash was the person working to get the binder released but the intel community was fightng him.

Of course the intel community is not confirming they produced a binder contatining all of their corruption. They are evil but not entirely stupid.

So yea, quite.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2024 04:30 PM (LkLld)

252 Next twelve months requires 10 TRILLION in federal government refinancing of bonds.

Getting close to the tipping point here.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:27 PM (cViPl)
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Ah I see. Got it.

Posted by: Black JEM at April 24, 2024 04:30 PM (GZYu7)

253 Who is selling bonds at higher yields than us? That you would buy?
Posted by: Black JEM
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During bad times, fear dominates greed and preservation of capital outweighs trying to maximize yields.

With modern bond funds, you can invest in all sorts of corporate, state and local, or foreign bonds that previously were unavailable to investors if you want to play that game.

Right now, better to invest in foreign bonds in places like Austria or Switzerland that have sound control over their finances.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:31 PM (cViPl)

254 Ah. I know where to find THAT.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 24, 2024 04:25 PM (NIFNC)

"depilated her axillae" just doesn't have the same sense of class

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2024 04:31 PM (D7oie)

255 And Gold is spiking up.

Posted by: Black JEM at April 24, 2024 04:33 PM (GZYu7)

256 Hate has no home here.

Posted by: Karen at April 24, 2024 04:19 PM (nvKZ7)

Karen doesn't tell people to get off her lawn, Karen designates people as threats and gathers lynch mobs to destroy anyone they don't like.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2024 04:33 PM (D7oie)

257 Last week, the Treasury had problems selling that week's bonds and law does not prevent the law of supply and demand from working. At first, it will be terms where the market will insist on short term bonds rather than longer term bonds or a much higher yield. Sooner or later, it will essentially be that the Fed has to monetize the debt by taking on the burden from the primary dealers.

Next twelve months requires 10 TRILLION in federal government refinancing of bonds.

Getting close to the tipping point here.
Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:27 PM (cViPl)
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For sure, and they will have two choices:
1. Force the primary dealers to buy, and have interest rates shoot the moon, wrecking spending capacity
2. Force the Fed to buy, monetize it directly, keep the interest control, wrecking the currency and spending capacity while also simultaneously destroying the petrodollar/eurodolalr and ending what's left of our ability to sequester inflation in foreign trade flows.

Or they could cut spending, but of course we know that they can't and why they can't. I am sure they'd rather go through Door Number Two, but it remains to be seen whether Powell will let them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 04:33 PM (HnUIn)

258 Gentlemen, it's a clam not an oyster.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 24, 2024 04:34 PM (lCWOD)

259 They couldn't care less about Donald Trump. He was never an obstacle and never will be. You're the obstacle. You're the one they're trying to demoralize with these show trials.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 24, 2024 04:29 PM (0FoWg)

++++

I don't doubt it, but they need a person like Donald Trump to use as an example, as well as the J6ers - to show us how far they're willing to go to keep the hoi polloi in check.

Posted by: washrivergal at April 24, 2024 04:35 PM (F6UFz)

260 The degenerates upstairs didn't call it, so NOOD THE PRESS SUCKS

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 04:35 PM (HnUIn)

261 I don't think anyone called the NOOD yet.

Zoomin' and Toobin'

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 24, 2024 04:36 PM (wQXfi)

262 Not quite. As I said Kash said the binder existed, strongly hinted that Trump had it and that it was the target of the FBI raid (as I recall he did not volunteer this but he was asked and he answered it certainly could be). The IC for its part has not said that it produced a binder of its attack on Trump - not that they would - but neither have they acknowledged that they attacked Trump.

I like Kash Patel, I like what he has to say, but he often seems to promise more than what is actually revealed.
Posted by: blaster
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Dancing a line there with the intel community as is Nunes and neither have the legal protections that a former president does on documents and disclosure.

There is also the problem with the reformer mindset. FISA itself needs to be junked as many of the other collection activities of the intel community and law enforcement as they increasingly intertwine with each other.

We would be better off punishing crimes more harshly than doubling down on the information collection. For example, the British security cameras have not lessened crime but given their MI5 and police increased power to surveil the law abiders while doing jack to prevent crimes.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:37 PM (cViPl)

263 254
"depilated her axillae" just doesn't have the same sense of class

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2024 04:31 PM (D7oie)
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But it does sound sophisticated .....

Posted by: Ciampino - scraped the mons at April 24, 2024 04:38 PM (qfLjt)

264 Gentlemen, it's a clam not an oyster.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 24, 2024 04:34 PM (lCWOD)

right. Peloris, not Peluda. Gotcha

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2024 04:38 PM (D7oie)

265 Gentlemen, it's a clam not an oyster.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 24, 2024 04:34 PM (lCWOD)
........

Depends on how difficult the birth was.

Posted by: wth at April 24, 2024 04:40 PM (v0R5T)

266 For sure, and they will have two choices:
1. Force the primary dealers to buy, and have interest rates shoot the moon, wrecking spending capacity
2. Force the Fed to buy, monetize it directly, keep the interest control, wrecking the currency and spending capacity while also simultaneously destroying the petrodollar/eurodolalr and ending what's left of our ability to sequester inflation in foreign trade flows.

Or they could cut spending, but of course we know that they can't and why they can't. I am sure they'd rather go through Door Number Two, but it remains to be seen whether Powell will let them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Pretty much. The excess debt regime in the West has lasted longer than I though possible through conventional economic analysis and part of that is due to the difficulty in accounting for international flows and offshore foreign currency reserves being traded about.

The debt crisis in the US fisc though appears to be accelerating and all it would take is cascading repudiation of dollars internationally for settling trade accounts and requiring some other currency to do it.

Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:42 PM (cViPl)

267 The debt crisis in the US fisc though appears to be accelerating and all it would take is cascading repudiation of dollars internationally for settling trade accounts and requiring some other currency to do it.
Posted by: whig at April 24, 2024 04:42 PM (cViPl)
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Yeah, it's going to get ugly. Our ability to hide the problem abroad is exhausted and our policy decisions are actually reducing it further even more quickly. The game is over if deficits don't come under control, and they won't.

Dick Cheney was wrong. Deficits *do* matter.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 04:47 PM (HnUIn)

268 244 But did she shave her oyster?
Posted by: wth at April 24, 2024 04:24 PM (v0R5T)

Wouldn't that make her "ostracized" , or am I thinking of something else?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2024 04:28 PM (D7oie)
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Excellent.
Isn't Oster a brand of blenders?

Posted by: Ciampino - scraped the mons? at April 24, 2024 04:56 PM (qfLjt)

269 249 It's on the coast, north of Malibu I think.
Posted by: DaisyB at April 24, 2024 04:25 PM (AbL8c)

this pun makes me grunion

Posted by: Kindltot at April 24, 2024 04:29 PM (D7oie)
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I feel clammy and shocked. Clutching my pearls.

Posted by: Ciampino - does this scale? at April 24, 2024 05:03 PM (qfLjt)

270 By now, this redhead in (and on) red cannot be surprised by "revelations" about naked police state shit out of the US government:
http://tiny.cc/uhiuxz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2024 04:14 PM (HnUIn)

That's an awfully small tackle box. If you take her fishing, she will probably lose all you good wobblers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2024 05:04 PM (tkR6S)

271
Wait, what? Do you have a link? I am hoping there is a real explanation for it. Can you imagine if all these conspiracies turn out to be true? That will be one heck of a plot twist.

Posted by: Piper at April 24, 2024 04:28 PM

Sorry I couldn't get back to you sooner, was making dinner. Just some video on X - which seemed to be believable. Some guy claiming to be 'Secret Service' wearing serious face protection with what appears to be the ruins of a World Trade Center all over the ground outside the entrance to Building number seven.

On a scale of 1 to 10 it scored a 5.01. Make of that what you will.

I'll throw it into the same pile of stuff where Alex Jones predicting that a plane would attack the WTC and Osama Bin Laden would be blamed reside. The huge pile of WTF? that I now live in.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 24, 2024 05:30 PM (RKVpM)

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