Mid-Morning Art Thread

Last Supper
Pieter Coecke van Aelst

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 First?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:30 AM (J2vNu)

2 Perfect

Posted by: Skip at April 22, 2024 09:31 AM (Nbv+c)

3 Good job, Wolfus!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:31 AM (9yWhg)

4 Table for 26 please.

Host - "Oh fer Christ's sake!"

Exactly.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:31 AM (WXNFJ)

5 Wolverine fight under the table.

Posted by: BignJames at April 22, 2024 09:32 AM (AwYPR)

6 I'll say it first. There's a dog therefore art.

Posted by: Tuna at April 22, 2024 09:32 AM (oaGWv)

7 Seeing the dog, I'd hate to clean up after this bunch!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:32 AM (J2vNu)

8 Gotta love a last supper. Though some of the disciples in this version are FUGLY. Pieter either couldn't afford good models or needed to run with a better crowd.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 22, 2024 09:33 AM (ZuqIn)

9 Seems kind of fussy; I prefer other paintings of the Last Supper but the little scene through the window is nice.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 22, 2024 09:33 AM (XkYcA)

10 Art and Food and Pets Thread!

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:33 AM (o3SCB)

11 Tuna, my phone won't play nice.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at April 22, 2024 09:33 AM (cN9kY)

12 This is not your standard reverent Last Supper painting, is it. . .?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:34 AM (J2vNu)

13
Dog, therefore art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 22, 2024 09:34 AM (MoZTd)

14 Coeckeyed miracle

Posted by: yikes at April 22, 2024 09:34 AM (us2H3)

15 Is that the chef/waiter in the kitchen on the left? Needs a hair net.

Posted by: BignJames at April 22, 2024 09:34 AM (AwYPR)

16 'twas a Seder, after all.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 09:35 AM (HnUIn)

17 This rendition seems very busy. Is it wrong of me to expect Bluto to stand up and yell "FOOD FIGHT!!!"?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 22, 2024 09:35 AM (T+Iwg)

18 The 2 guys on the left look like aliens.

Is this the last supper on Mars?

Posted by: redridinghood at April 22, 2024 09:35 AM (NpAcC)

19 Some of the apostles are ugly. And one is way too old.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 22, 2024 09:35 AM (SfhV1)

20 Artist didn't know squat about the subject. Offensive.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 22, 2024 09:35 AM (LfcYE)

21 Is this a pitcher of Steak and Brew or Beefsteak Charlies?

Posted by: Defunct Food Venues at April 22, 2024 09:35 AM (V5BDR)

22 A couple of those folks look really bored.

Including the one on the far left. Is that a woman?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:35 AM (9yWhg)

23 Can't been a Steen. No broken eggshells on floor.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at April 22, 2024 09:35 AM (PiwSw)

24 Jesus looks like he'd rather be at the dentist. (And first-century Roman dentistry was probably not nice.)

The table is swarmed by intriguing characters. The womean at the far left in red, for instance, and the meth addict-looking woman (?) on Jesus' left hand. And bald guy two seats to Jesus' right looks like one of the Talosians from Trek. How recent is this painting?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:36 AM (J2vNu)

25 What's with the loaf, precariously overhanging the table edge, right in front of Jesus (and above the fighting dogs)? Must be some kind of symbolism...

Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 22, 2024 09:37 AM (JCZqz)

26 An interesting character study. Each person has a personality. The guy on the very end left is my favorite. He just wants to eat his meal but got stuck next to the guy that talks constantly.

Posted by: Kris at April 22, 2024 09:37 AM (OyyDO)

27 Person to the left of the dogs, holding a wine vase, has blue jeans on?

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:37 AM (o3SCB)

28 What the blazes is going on with the guy in front and his seat?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:37 AM (9yWhg)

29 I don't recall a woman ever being at the original Last Supper.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 22, 2024 09:37 AM (NpAcC)

30 Nice tile work on the floor.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 09:38 AM (HnUIn)

31 Morning.

Which of the Apostles does the doggeh belong to?

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:38 AM (RwocX)

32 Okay, this artist couldn't be any sort of fan of Christianity. A quick scan of those assembled at the table is a Who's Who of circus freaks. wth?

Posted by: red speck at April 22, 2024 09:38 AM (0Id0S)

33 Even the dog wouldn't eat the green bean casserole.

Posted by: There are Limits at April 22, 2024 09:38 AM (V5BDR)

34 This is from 1527??? I mean, the style says Renaissance, but I'd never have thought the general irreverence of it would be found at that time period.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:38 AM (J2vNu)

35 And bald guy two seats to Jesus' right looks like one of the Talosians from Trek. How recent is this painting?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:36 AM (J2vNu)

LOL. I thought the same thing but I couldn't remember their name.

Posted by: Kris at April 22, 2024 09:38 AM (OyyDO)

36 He just wants to eat his meal but got stuck next to the guy that talks constantly.
Posted by: Kris

"Do you Crossfit? I wonder if they have any vegan, gluten free options here."

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:38 AM (WXNFJ)

37 I don't care for this one.

Posted by: grammie winger - cheesehead at April 22, 2024 09:39 AM (SfhV1)

38 I looked up the date and it's pretty amazing.

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:39 AM (o3SCB)

39 Why is the dude in the background left dancing in the kitchen?

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:39 AM (RwocX)

40 This is actually and artist's depiction of the last (and first) supper at a hybrid WalMart and Golden Corral concept store.

Posted by: History of Bad Restaurant Ideas at April 22, 2024 09:39 AM (JCZqz)

41 I don't recall a woman ever being at the original Last Supper.
Posted by: redridinghood

Someone had to make the sammiches.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:40 AM (WXNFJ)

42 This painting is sure busy. My eyes are having trouble settling on one object. Definitely lots to look at. Artist is unknown to me. Off to read a little about him.

Posted by: Tuna at April 22, 2024 09:40 AM (oaGWv)

43 Chick on Jesus's left looks like Helena Bonham Carter.

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:40 AM (RwocX)

44 Probably a collection of the artists sketches of people he saw every day.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 09:41 AM (di6C2)

45 Tell 'em Joe sent ya and get a free glass of wine on the house.

Posted by: Lenny's Clam Bar at April 22, 2024 09:41 AM (V5BDR)

46 Was stained glass a thing in 33AD?

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:41 AM (WXNFJ)

47 There are people in red tops seated every few chairs. Like it's a conspiracy....

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:42 AM (o3SCB)

48 Does this depict the moment of the prediction of betrayal?

Posted by: davidt at April 22, 2024 09:42 AM (SYTee)

49 And the character at the far right, also in red: Her (or his?) shaven head makes her look like a modern university professor about to protest in favor of Hamas.

I guess Pieter was having some fun -- a jeu d'esprit, as it were. 'Twould be interesting to know how this painting was received in his own time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:42 AM (J2vNu)

50 Chick on Jesus's left looks like Helena Bonham Carter.
Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024

***
She does -- playing a meth addict.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:42 AM (J2vNu)

51 44 Probably a collection of the artists sketches of people he saw every day.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 09:41 AM (di6C2)

People who hung out at the tavern!

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:42 AM (o3SCB)

52 And the character at the far right, also in red: Her (or his?) shaven head makes her look like a modern university professor about to protest in favor of Hamas.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:42 AM (J2vNu)

Sinead O'Connor.

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:43 AM (RwocX)

53 Jesus is probably thinking 'Man, I shoulda just gotten take-out'

yeah I don't like this one

Posted by: Don Black at April 22, 2024 09:43 AM (oCjPU)

54 Early "festival seating"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 22, 2024 09:44 AM (Q4IgG)

55 People who hung out at the tavern!
Posted by: m

Mogan David for everyone!

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:44 AM (WXNFJ)

56 Someone had to make the sammiches.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:40 AM (WXNFJ)
******
Now it makes sense.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 22, 2024 09:44 AM (NpAcC)

57 Hope everyone has washed their hands...

Would Hang.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 22, 2024 09:44 AM (cDEsv)

58 It's hard to make out the medallions on the wall, but the one on the left looks like Cain murdering Abel. On the right is a beheading. CandA makes sense. This painting depicts the moment Christ reveals the betrayer. Cain betrayed Abel. I wouldn't be surprised if the other medallion had a similar theme.

Posted by: Kris at April 22, 2024 09:44 AM (OyyDO)

59 Mogan David for everyone!
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:44 AM (WXNFJ)
++++
:: shudders ::

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 09:45 AM (HnUIn)

60 43 Chick on Jesus's left looks like Helena Bonham Carter.
Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:40 AM (RwocX)

My first thought was Kamala's stepdaughter, but I will allow it.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at April 22, 2024 09:45 AM (jN2/U)

61 A loaf of bread, a jug of wine.

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:45 AM (o3SCB)

62 Looking at this more and more I feel like this is the Mad Magazine version of The Last Supper. Fold it in thirds and a bonus image appears.

I think...yeah, I think I would hang.

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:45 AM (RwocX)

63 I think the guy in the foreground having chair issues is Judas Iscariot.

The figure has red hair, and Judas was commonly depicted as a redhead.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:45 AM (9yWhg)

64 This artist's St. Jerome in his Study looks as if he's pointing out, on the skull on his desk, the location of his migraine:

https://tinyurl.com/ednmxm5w

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:45 AM (J2vNu)

65 Alright, who's the smart ass that ordered the BLT?

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:45 AM (WXNFJ)

66 Poor waiter. I know they add a 20% gratuity for parties of more than six, but Judas also insisted on separate checks.

Posted by: Left Holding the Bag at April 22, 2024 09:46 AM (V5BDR)

67 3 I think the guy in the foreground having chair issues is Judas Iscariot.

The figure has red hair, and Judas was commonly depicted as a redhead.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024

***
The one who looks like he's straining his neck?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:46 AM (J2vNu)

68 Mogan David for everyone!
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:44 AM (WXNFJ)
++++
:: shudders ::
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

My non-Jewish parents loved Mogen David. Probably the first wine I ever tasted.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:46 AM (9yWhg)

69 Judas has a sort of Prince Harry look about him.

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:46 AM (o3SCB)

70 The guy, center front....something is wrong with him. His lower half doesn't really match with his upper half? Maybe the lower half belongs to someone else, partially hidden under his robes?

Not that there's anything wrong with that...

Posted by: Art Moron at April 22, 2024 09:46 AM (JCZqz)

71 Oh...I just noticed the ginormous gold coins in the background.

How does one make change out of one of those?

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:47 AM (RwocX)

72 The guy on the far left looks like he's coming through the window, no?

Posted by: dantesed at April 22, 2024 09:47 AM (Oy/m2)

73 The figure has red hair, and Judas was commonly depicted as a redhead.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

This fact parallels much of my life.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:47 AM (WXNFJ)

74 62 Looking at this more and more I feel like this is the Mad Magazine version of The Last Supper. Fold it in thirds and a bonus image appears.
Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:45 AM (RwocX)

hahahahaha

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:47 AM (o3SCB)

75 Always get separate checks. The guy who just got tea and toast ends up paying for the guy who got eggs Benedict.

Posted by: Father Guido Sarducci at April 22, 2024 09:47 AM (dg+HA)

76 This is the Last Supper. Everyone at the table are dudes. I'm kinda surprised we can't see the face of the guy with the jug and that he is on the same side of the table as Judas.

Posted by: Kris at April 22, 2024 09:47 AM (OyyDO)

77 58 It's hard to make out the medallions on the wall, but the one on the left looks like Cain murdering Abel. On the right is a beheading. CandA makes sense. This painting depicts the moment Christ reveals the betrayer. Cain betrayed Abel. I wouldn't be surprised if the other medallion had a similar theme.
Posted by: Kris at April 22, 2024 09:44 AM (OyyDO)

Guy holding a severed head. Looks like a battlefield or coliseum. David and Goliath?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 09:48 AM (di6C2)

78 Hope everyone has washed their hands...
---
Their feet should at least be clean.

Posted by: screaming in digital at April 22, 2024 09:48 AM (wQXfi)

79 The Chosen.

Posted by: Come and see at April 22, 2024 09:48 AM (dg+HA)

80 Van Aelst. Of course. Guy thinks he's the next Norseman Rockwell.

Posted by: red speck at April 22, 2024 09:48 AM (0Id0S)

81 Guys in front gettin' ready to rumble!

Posted by: BignJames at April 22, 2024 09:49 AM (AwYPR)

82 Second for Christ on the left, is that a Talosian from Star Trek?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 22, 2024 09:49 AM (U7wke)

83 Very fitting art choice for Passover.

What's up with the hair on these guys?
Everything from chrome dome and perms to top knots.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 09:49 AM (xfPBr)

84 Mogan David for everyone!
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:44 AM (WXNFJ)
++++
:: shudders ::
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024

***
Along with elderberry and other "fruit" wines, that's one I was never interested in trying.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:49 AM (J2vNu)

85 The one who looks like he's straining his neck?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

The one who looks like he's falling off his chair.

He seems to be pointing at himself too, as if to ask if he's the one who is to betray Jesus. The Helena Bonham-Carter figure seems to be pointing at him as well.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:49 AM (9yWhg)

86 72 The guy on the far left looks like he's coming through the window, no?
Posted by: dantesed at April 22, 2024 09:47 AM (Oy/m2)

Maybe he's a footpad.

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:49 AM (o3SCB)

87 Thought cloud above Jesus' head:

Wow, what a collection of sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, and d*ckheads.

Perfect!!

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:49 AM (WXNFJ)

88 58 It's hard to make out the medallions on the wall, but the one on the left looks like Cain murdering Abel. On the right is a beheading. CandA makes sense. This painting depicts the moment Christ reveals the betrayer. Cain betrayed Abel. I wouldn't be surprised if the other medallion had a similar theme.
Posted by: Kris at April 22, 2024 09:44 AM (OyyDO)

John the Baptist, maybe? Doesn't quite fit but I can't think of anything else off the top of my head.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 22, 2024 09:49 AM (T+Iwg)

89 Fancy tile work on the floor.

Posted by: dantesed at April 22, 2024 09:50 AM (Oy/m2)

90 All the free bread all over the table and in the basket on the floor.

They're eating at either an ancient Olive Garden or an ancient Texas Road House.

Both'll just fill you up on bread.

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:50 AM (RwocX)

91
What if, instead of a Last Supper, they held a Last Breakfast?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2024 09:50 AM (xG4kz)

92 And bald guy two seats to Jesus' right looks like one of the Talosians from Trek. How recent is this painting?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:36 AM (J2vNu)

Should have known someone would beat me to that observation.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 22, 2024 09:50 AM (U7wke)

93 Along with elderberry and other "fruit" wines, that's one I was never interested in trying.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:49 AM (J2vNu)
++++
As a wee Jewish lad, if one wanted to misbehave and experiment with booze on holidays while the grown-ups were busy with synagogue activities, the choices available were MD and Manischewitz. Mine was a Manischewitz congregation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 09:50 AM (HnUIn)

94 A loaf of bread, a jug of wine.
Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:45 AM (o3SCB)

Aches in my head, bugs in my bed
Pants so old that they shine
Out on the street, tell the people I meet
Won'ch buy me a bottle of wine...

Bottle of wine, fruit of the vine
When you gonna let me get sober
Leave me along, let me go home
I wann'a go back and start over...

Posted by: The Fireballs at April 22, 2024 09:51 AM (cDEsv)

95
Is it I, Lord?
Is it J?
Could it be K?

Posted by: Always a comic at April 22, 2024 09:51 AM (dg+HA)

96 I admire the skill of the artist but agree with She-hobbit, there are some ugly people in this painting.

Posted by: Darth Randall at April 22, 2024 09:51 AM (xT7BI)

97 I like DaVinci's better. This one looks too chaotic.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 22, 2024 09:51 AM (7fElN)

98 Quite obviously inspired by Leonardo's Last Supper; but it makes sense in the day. Leonardo's work was a huge fresco on a wall that only those visiting Milan could see; according to the Wiki stub, van Aelst and his assistants made and sold at least 45 versions of this last supper to his patrons. They added even more Christian iconography to the work in the scene through the window (showing Jesus' entry into Jerusalem) and the large medallions hanging on the walls.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 22, 2024 09:51 AM (S6gqv)

99 There appears to be a nibbled loaf of bread at the front edge of the table, just above the dog. I don't guess we can blame the dog for it; he'd have pulled the whole loaf down and trotted off with it, instead of taking only a bite.

(Looks like cornbread. Did ancient Judea have anything like that?)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:51 AM (J2vNu)

100 100

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:52 AM (o3SCB)

101 Well at least there is a dog in it

Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 09:52 AM (Akjoo)

102 96 I admire the skill of the artist but agree with She-hobbit, there are some ugly people in this painting.
Posted by: Darth Randall at April 22, 2024 09:51 AM (xT7BI)

People are messy.

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:52 AM (o3SCB)

103 And not a single one of them was a Muslim.

Posted by: XTC at April 22, 2024 09:52 AM (UnA8+)

104
They're eating at either an ancient Olive Garden or an ancient Texas Road House.

Is there kraft paper and crayons on the table? That's all Olive Garden right there.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2024 09:52 AM (xG4kz)

105 What if, instead of a Last Supper, they held a Last Breakfast?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2024 09:50 AM (xG4kz)
---
This one does have a "Waffle House at 3 a.m." vibe...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 22, 2024 09:53 AM (7fElN)

106 As a wee Jewish lad, if one wanted to misbehave and experiment with booze on holidays while the grown-ups were busy with synagogue activities, the choices available were MD and Manischewitz. Mine was a Manischewitz congregation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

We've secretly replaced the Manischewitz with Jägermeister. Let's see if anyone noticed when they get home from Temple.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:53 AM (WXNFJ)

107 Apparently, the Last Supper was held in a room with a view.

Posted by: dantesed at April 22, 2024 09:53 AM (Oy/m2)

108 But was it plant based?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at April 22, 2024 09:53 AM (cN9kY)

109 The two at far left, between the fat chick in red and the Talosian, look as though they are whispering secrets to each other. (Or making a date for later.)

The bearded guy third from right looks like he is bored out of his mind.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:53 AM (J2vNu)

110 Mine was a slivovitz congregation and you only experiment with that once.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 22, 2024 09:53 AM (RIvkX)

111 The person, not sure man/women) at the end of the table looks like they haven't skipped any last suppers.

Posted by: mpfs at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (Kx0U0)

112 >>I admire the skill of the artist but agree with She-hobbit, there are some ugly people in this painting.

The guy on Jesus' left in black has an alien head.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (JrMjK)

113 So, what is it about Mogen David, etc., that makes them kosher wines? Serious question.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (9yWhg)

114 I'm not Kris, but
I suspect this is a case of using the Last Supper as an excuse for virtuoso painting.
As in the landscape, the stained glass window, the bronze medallions on the wall, and the perfect perspective.
Plus the variations in the Apostles. (not the cast of The Chosen by any means)
The balance of the composition has a classical feel.
Notice the placement of the red robes across the mid-line.

This is the moment Christ announces His betrayal. The figure rising from his seat is Judas (traditionally a ginger). The figure on the left is probably a servant.
As for the fat one in the red robe, I got nothin'

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (jN2/U)

115 As a wee Jewish lad, if one wanted to misbehave and experiment with booze on holidays while the grown-ups were busy with synagogue activities, the choices available were MD and Manischewitz. Mine was a Manischewitz congregation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 09:50 AM (HnUIn)

Sounds like you got some stories of wee youthful drunkenness to share.

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (RwocX)

116 This Last Supper was on Talos IV

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (RIvkX)

117
(Looks like cornbread. Did ancient Judea have anything like that?)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere

As there was no corn in the Old World at that time, no.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2024 09:55 AM (xG4kz)

118 Watched a series on Amazon called Drive Through History on the Gospels. Aside from the narrator's apparent need to interject "funny" asides into many episodes, it was really helpful to have a better perspective on how very compact the last week of Jesus' life was. It seems everything -- the Triumphal Entry, the Upper Room, the Mount of Olives, Golgotha -- they're all a couple hundred yards from each other.

Posted by: red speck at April 22, 2024 09:55 AM (0Id0S)

119 The new Deadpool and Wolverine trailer is pretty shit, imo.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 09:55 AM (di6C2)

120 This one does have a "Waffle House at 3 a.m." vibe...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Honest to G*d, there is a waitress at my Waffle House whose first name is "Mushroom".

I kid you not.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:55 AM (WXNFJ)

121 I know some of y'all think this is sacrilegious, too busy, irreverent, etc. but why? I'd imagine there was a very human side of the apostles as well. Jesus alone has a heavy heart.

"Lamb" by Christopher Moore is very irreverent and talks about the life of Christ as a child. It is fiction, of course, but focuses on Christ as a friend to his buddy Biff (I think) and how He travels the known world seeking lessons and inspiration. It is funny at times. But at the end, when Chris is hanging on a cross, the irreverence died and the picture painted by the author was poignant. It made me cry.

Jesus was Man and God. His friends were men. I'd imagine there was chaos involved with a bunch of friends at a party with booze on a high holiday.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2024 09:55 AM (WZxLz)

122 Looks like they are trying to divy up the bill.
"John, you had the prime rib and wine. That'll be $34.50"
"Luke, you had the NY Strip. Tha'll be $24.75"

"Remember everyone! 18% gratuity is automatic!"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 09:56 AM (sHgnb)

123 All of Judas's wild gesticulations bring our focus on him. Then secondly on Christ, centered in the window. The rest are also-rans.

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 09:56 AM (o3SCB)

124 The guy on the far left looks like he's coming through the window, no?
Posted by: dantesed at April 22, 2024

***
That's the owner, wondering who he'll get to handle for tomorrow's lunch now that his best waitress has quit in a huff.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 09:56 AM (J2vNu)

125 Hillary Clinton Was Cheated. The crux of this case (Stormy Daniels), which the MSM wants to overlook, is that if the whole sordid affair was made public, Trump would have probably lost.

Not to mention the LIE dropped a few days before the election. That lie was dropped that an FBI (?) investigation was finding ample reason to charge Hillary Clinton with some crimes.

Comey's was the heaviest thumb on the scale. People knew what Trump was by then. Access Hollywood had been out for months. Comey fucked us big time & I practically puked when he wrote that "he eats your soul" commentary. Fuck you, James Comey.

It isn't about Hillary Clinton. No one is entitled to be president. But the American people ARE entitled to a president chosen without llegal election interference.

Trump cultist never elected him and never will. it's the independents that switch back and forth who elected him.
People who voted for Obama and then Trump. You know, idiots.

The Clintons triggered the entire right-wing hate machine to turbo charge. She was always the most qualified candidate ever.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 22, 2024 09:56 AM (JCZqz)

126 116 This Last Supper was on Talos IV
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (RIvkX)

*scans closely*

I don't see no Susan Oliver!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (T+Iwg)

127 We've secretly replaced the Manischewitz with Jägermeister. Let's see if anyone noticed when they get home from Temple.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:53 AM (WXNFJ)
++++
LOL.

As a not-so-wee lad, I once outrageously ... overindulged on Jägermeister. The hangover lasted for two days and I have possibly never felt worse in my life. To this day, just a whiff of the stuff makes my stomach churn. I can't even bring myself to taste it, because the mere odor of it precludes getting it close enough to my face to drink it. Jägermeister or anything with a similar scent profile, like Ouzo. I've never tried Ouzo because I it triggers my Jägermeister Reflex.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (HnUIn)

128 Honest to G*d, there is a waitress at my Waffle House whose first name is "Mushroom".

I kid you not.
Posted by: Tonypete

Bet she likes to hang out with fungis.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (9yWhg)

129 Jack Smith is in the eyes of the law a private citizen, and all the acts he has taken since his appointment on November 18, 2022 are null and void. This is as true of the acts Smith has taken in the Florida classified documents case, against Donald Trump, under the eye of the 11th Circuit, as it is of the actions Smith has taken in the D.C. District Court case, against Trump involving the events of January 6, 2021. All those he has imprisoned or entered into plea bargains with are free. Indeed, Jack Smith can be sued in torts for unconstitutionally depriving people of liberty and property.

Posted by: SMOD at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (RHGPo)

130 Check out the gargantuan bald head on second from left of Jesus.

He's got a head like Sputnik!

Posted by: mpfs at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (Kx0U0)

131 So, what is it about Mogen David, etc., that makes them kosher wines? Serious question.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (9yWhg)

*Kosher* wine? It's bacon free?

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (1+i9X)

132 Guy holding a severed head. Looks like a battlefield or coliseum. David and Goliath?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 09:48 AM (di6C2)

Maybe. I thought there might be a murder/betrayal theme going on, but maybe not.

Looking at the right medallion again, that could be the Sacrifice of Isaac too. If so, then the substitutionary sacrifice also fits into the Last Supper messaging. If the left one is David and Goliath, then maybe it represents Christ defeating Death. Hard to tell.

Posted by: Kris at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (OyyDO)

133 The artist was prescient - he made it look like the lunch crowd at a low-rent Olive Garden in a bad part of town. Nice colors, but that's about it. This one gets minus points.

Posted by: Dr_No at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (ayRl+)

134 " Looks like they are trying to divy up the bill.
"John, you had the prime rib and wine. That'll be $34.50"
"Luke, you had the NY Strip. Tha'll be $24.75"

"Remember everyone! 18% gratuity is automatic!"
Posted by: rickb223"

Alright, who had the pork chops?

Posted by: the waiter at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (vFG9F)

135 Honest to G*d, there is a waitress at my Waffle House whose first name is "Mushroom".

I kid you not.
Posted by: Tonypete

She's full of sh*t.
(SWIDT?)

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (sHgnb)

136 Sounds like you got some stories of wee youthful drunkenness to share.
Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (RwocX)
++++
Heh. Not really. Believe it or not, I was a pretty good kid in that regard. I few great stories.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (HnUIn)

137 Looks like they are trying to divy up the bill.
"John, you had the prime rib and wine. That'll be $34.50"
"Luke, you had the NY Strip. Tha'll be $24.75"

—

There’s that one guy who’s all, I didn’t have any of the appetizers so I shouldn’t chip in for it.

Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (tpjlM)

138 I count 14 figures. 1 Christ, 12 apostles and 1 I dunno.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 22, 2024 09:58 AM (FpYQw)

139 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at April 22, 2024 09:56 AM (JCZqz)

This time I can't pick the "best" one LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 09:58 AM (Akjoo)

140 So, what is it about Mogen David, etc., that makes them kosher wines? Serious question.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Possibly the name? For starters.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 09:58 AM (sHgnb)

141 Heh. Not really. Believe it or not, I was a pretty good kid in that regard. I few great stories.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Now YD, on the other hand...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:59 AM (9yWhg)

142 I count 14 figures. 1 Christ, 12 apostles and 1 I dunno.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

1 seriously stressed waiter/server.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 09:59 AM (sHgnb)

143 The guy on Jesus' left in black has an alien head.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (JrMjK
*******
See comment 18. I'm glad you see it too.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 22, 2024 09:59 AM (NpAcC)

144 I count 14 figures. 1 Christ, 12 apostles and 1 I dunno.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

You forgot the dog.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:59 AM (9yWhg)

145 (Looks like cornbread. Did ancient Judea have anything like that?)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere
*
As there was no corn in the Old World at that time, no.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 22, 2024

***
You're right. The British and other Euros use the word "corn" to mean "the major grain crop of the area in question," even if it was wheat or (maybe) millet. For our "corn," they use "maize." But maize was unknown in the Old World until after Columbus.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:00 AM (J2vNu)

146 Guy in red with blue cape on our left just KNOWS his order won't be correct.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 10:00 AM (sHgnb)

147 .. . overindulged on Jägermeister. The hangover lasted for two days and I have possibly never felt worse in my life. . .
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

My BIL is a retired Blackhawk driver. West Point grad, Special Forces guy, the whole nine yards. Jägermeister is the only poison he drinks. You DO NOT want to try to keep up with him.

Unbelievable.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 10:01 AM (WXNFJ)

148 So, what is it about Mogen David, etc., that makes them kosher wines? Serious question.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (9yWhg)
++++
"Kosher" != "Parve" != "Kosher for Passover"

"Kosher for Passover" is very restrictive, and the famous Jewish wines (MD and Manischewitz) are "Kosher for Passover." I don't know what the technical distinction is with wine that makes it specifically Passover-compliant. I suspect it has something to do with the treatment of yeast. Fermentation depends on yeast, and yeast is a leavening agent and leavening agents are forbidden on Passover.

I don't know if there is a historical difference in Passover wine vs. non-Passover wine, or what the distinctions are.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:01 AM (HnUIn)

149 I think I've seen kosher water before. Not like holy water, bottled water that had "kosher" printed on the label.

Like those kosher hotdogs I guess?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 22, 2024 10:01 AM (Q4IgG)

150 The dog and bread hanging over the side is probably a table scraps for the dog reference.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 22, 2024 10:01 AM (eYoxG)

151 You're right. The British and other Euros use the word "corn" to mean "the major grain crop of the area in question," even if it was wheat or (maybe) millet. For our "corn," they use "maize."

But maize was unknown in the Old World until after Columbus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Thanks to Elizabeth WRren's ancestors.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 10:01 AM (sHgnb)

152 Jury in Trump trial will end early today as 1 juror has a toothache.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 22, 2024 10:01 AM (NpAcC)

153 Since it’s Erf Day all the food should be organic as well as kosher.

Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (tpjlM)

154 My BIL is a retired Blackhawk driver. West Point grad, Special Forces guy, the whole nine yards. Jägermeister is the only poison he drinks. You DO NOT want to try to keep up with him.

Unbelievable.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 10:01 AM (WXNFJ)
++++
Heh. Before "The Event," I might have been able to keep up on that stuff. I really liked it.

After "The Event," nope. Zero chance.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (HnUIn)

155 130 >>>Check out the gargantuan bald head on second from left of Jesus.

He's got a head like Sputnik!

"Ahh... he'll be crying himself to sleep tonight on his huge pillow."

A very underrated movie, imo.

Posted by: red speck at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (0Id0S)

156 I've never tried Ouzo because I it triggers my Jägermeister Reflex.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Now we know why Joe is successful!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (xfPBr)

157 152 Jury in Trump trial will end early today as 1 juror has a toothache.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 22, 2024 10:01 AM (NpAcC)

Stalling tactic ?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (Akjoo)

158 As a not-so-wee lad, I once outrageously ... overindulged on Jägermeister. The hangover lasted for two days and I have possibly never felt worse in my life. To this day, just a whiff of the stuff makes my stomach churn. I can't even bring myself to taste it, because the mere odor of it precludes getting it close enough to my face to drink it. Jägermeister or anything with a similar scent profile, like Ouzo. I've never tried Ouzo because I it triggers my Jägermeister Reflex.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024

***
The one time I tried JM, it reminded me too much of those cherry-flavored cold medicines my mother was always dosing me with in my childhood. No thanks, bartender.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (J2vNu)

159 Mine was a slivovitz congregation and you only experiment with that once.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 22, 2024 09:53 AM (RIvkX)

Hard core! 1st generation Eastern Europeans?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (gSZYf)

160 The Israelis need to make a drink and name it Iron Dome.

I like it.

Posted by: mpfs at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (Kx0U0)

161 Why are they all crowded on one side of the table?

Posted by: spindrift at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (OguvZ)

162 You're right. The British and other Euros use the word "corn" to mean "the major grain crop of the area in question," even if it was wheat or (maybe) millet. For our "corn," they use "maize."

But maize was unknown in the Old World until after Columbus.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Ah, that cute Indian chick in the old Mazola ad...

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (9yWhg)

163 120 This one does have a "Waffle House at 3 a.m." vibe...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

Honest to G*d, there is a waitress at my Waffle House whose first name is "Mushroom".

I kid you not.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 09:55 AM (WXNFJ)

I'm guessing she didn't want to advertise her real name. And management let her pick one and stick with it.

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 10:03 AM (o3SCB)

164 I had exactly one shot of JM. It was vile and I never touched it again.

Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 10:03 AM (tpjlM)

165 I count 14 figures. 1 Christ, 12 apostles and 1 I dunno.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

That's Mel Brooks.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 22, 2024 10:03 AM (IG4Id)

166 The resemblance is just too close, the Talosians had to be based on this painting.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 10:04 AM (xfPBr)

167 That's Mel Brooks.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 22, 2024 10:03 AM (IG4Id)

Try the mulled wine

Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 10:04 AM (Akjoo)

168 Mine was a slivovitz congregation and you only experiment with that once.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 22, 2024 09:53 AM (RIvkX)
++++
Never tried that one. You make it sound like maybe I shouldn't!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:04 AM (HnUIn)

169 Honest to G*d, there is a waitress at my Waffle House whose first name is "Mushroom".

I kid you not.
Posted by: Tonypete

I'm stuck contemplating the fact the you have a Waffle House.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at April 22, 2024 10:04 AM (ZuqIn)

170 Judas (traditionally a ginger). The figure on the left is probably a servant.
As for the fat one in the red robe, I got nothin'
Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at April 22, 2024 09:54 AM (jN2/U)

The figure on the left with the jug has to be a Disciple, otherwise we're missing one... unless he timed his pee break poorly and missed the group picture. Also, no servant would sit at the table with the host and guests. That figure is so interesting.

Posted by: Kris at April 22, 2024 10:04 AM (OyyDO)

171 Since it’s Erf Day all the food should be organic as well as kosher.
Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024

***
"It's Earp Day!"

"Uh . . . is that when those guys, you know, shot each other at the Golden Corral?"

"O.K."

"I wasn't asking permission, man."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:06 AM (J2vNu)

172 Why are they all crowded on one side of the table?
Posted by: spindrift

Thank goodness this didn't take place on Guam. It would tip over.

Posted by: mpfs at April 22, 2024 10:06 AM (Kx0U0)

173 I don't think it's irreverent. I just think it's fussy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 22, 2024 10:06 AM (XkYcA)

174 Rejoice EV haters…

From Faux Newz:

Car dealers throw cold water on electric vehicles versus gas options: ‘I wouldn’t feel safe’
Dealers said gas cars drive better, are more economical and do not track data like electric vehicles

—-

I think this is a load of horseshit myself. Dealers don’t like EVs because unlike IC cars there’s no money in it post sale. No oil changes, no fluid flushes, etc. Little to no maintenance which is where a sizable chunk of a dealer’s odor fit comes from.

Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 10:06 AM (tpjlM)

175 Wow. Did not know that.

To make wine kosher, the following requirements must be met:
The wine must be made under the supervision of a rabbi.
The wine must contain only kosher ingredients, including yeast and fining agents.
The wine must be processed using equipment rabbinically certified to make kosher wines.
No preservatives or artificial colors may be added.
The wine must be subject to a very stringent filtration procedure in which no foreign substance may be used.
Only certified kosher products may be used in the wine-making process.

Nonkosher wines often use gelatin, rice, milk products or animal byproducts for clarification and purification processes.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 10:06 AM (sHgnb)

176 NYPost:

FBI found it ‘alarming’ that Fauci-funded virus research at Wuhan lab would leave no trace of ‘human manipulation’

Posted by: SMOD at April 22, 2024 10:07 AM (RHGPo)

177 Stalling tactic ?
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (Akjoo)
*****
Another juror talked with judge regarding anonymity.
Every juror will be outed.
It's pretty easy to figure out when you don't show up to work etc. for 4-6 weeks

Posted by: redridinghood at April 22, 2024 10:08 AM (NpAcC)

178 ... To make wine kosher, the following requirements must be met:
The wine must be made under the supervision of a rabbi.
The wine must contain only kosher ingredients, including yeast and fining agents.
The wine must be processed using equipment rabbinically certified to make kosher wines.
No preservatives or artificial colors may be added.
The wine must be subject to a very stringent filtration procedure in which no foreign substance may be used.
Only certified kosher products may be used in the wine-making process. ...
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 10:06 AM (sHgnb)
++++
So pretty much the same as normal Kosher rules. I guess yeast doesn't count as leaven when it's used for fermentation. Or maybe it's because the yeast is all consumed by the fermentation, and thus *you* don't consume any.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:08 AM (HnUIn)

179 125 Hillary Clinton Was Cheated.

It usually takes me about two sections until I realize that
Intrepid AoS Liason has struck again.
These are always wonderful- well played, sir (or madam)!

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at April 22, 2024 10:08 AM (jN2/U)

180 Car dealers throw cold water on electric vehicles versus gas options: ‘I wouldn’t feel safe’. . .
Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024

***
You throw water on an electrical fire, you're asking for trouble.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:08 AM (J2vNu)

181 That's Mel Brooks.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 22, 2024 10:03 AM (IG4Id)

Try the mulled wine
Posted by: It's me donna

Oh Count de Money! Count de Money!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 10:08 AM (sHgnb)

182 159 Mine was a slivovitz congregation and you only experiment with that once.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 22, 2024 09:53 AM (RIvkX)

Hard core! 1st generation Eastern Europeans?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Also called rakija, and it's the booze that fuels the Balkans. None of the other Americans I was with liked it, but I acquired quite a taste for it...especially the quince fruit variety. The region has some traditions that remind me of early, colonial America and rakija production is one of them. Many homes have grapes and fruit trees in their gardens, and they home distill their own rakija every year. That homebrew stuff can be...rough.

Posted by: Military Moron at April 22, 2024 10:09 AM (JCZqz)

183 No oil changes, no fluid flushes, etc. Little to no maintenance which is where a sizable chunk of a dealer’s odor fit comes from.
Posted by: Montec

EVs don't need oil changes? They've still got moving parts that need lubrication, no?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 10:09 AM (9yWhg)

184 58 ... This painting depicts the moment Christ reveals the betrayer.
Posted by: Kris at April 22, 2024 09:44 AM (OyyDO)

Ooh, I just now noticed Christ pointing at Judas. I wonder who Judas is looking at?

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 10:09 AM (o3SCB)

185 I see The Ukrainian Delegation from the US Congress and Senate has landed in Kiev.

Is there any way we can strand them there?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 22, 2024 10:09 AM (JIdXK)

186 Noot going to snark o n The Last Supper, but the Lanny Davis tongue bath of Biden on the MR suggested this little ditty:

48 Years of Ineptitude - a limerick

Let's think about this for a minute
Joe spent thirty-six years in the Senate
VP for eight more
Now the White House for four
'Bout time to call it a day, Joe, now innit?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 22, 2024 10:10 AM (l4B/J)

187 This "Last Supper" almost looks like the still from a movie:

https://tinyurl.com/2p43aadv

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 22, 2024 10:10 AM (XkYcA)

188 174 No oil changes, no fluid flushes ...
Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 10:06 AM (tpjlM)

Not a single lux-ur-y.

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 10:11 AM (o3SCB)

189 Many homes have grapes and fruit trees in their gardens, and they home distill their own rakija every year. That homebrew stuff can be...rough.
Posted by: Military Moron at April 22, 2024

***
"Slivovitz? I hope this batch doesn't taste like the eldest daughter has been stomping out the grapes with her feet again."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:11 AM (J2vNu)

190 EVs don't need oil changes? They've still got moving parts that need lubrication, no?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 10:09 AM (9yWhg)
++++
Most of it is sealed stuff, IIRC. Very, very expensive lubricants but they last an extremely long time and usually don't need regular service.

Coolant is more routine maintenance. EVs *do* have coolant (batteries are hot) and radiators.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:11 AM (HnUIn)

191 Why are they all crowded on one side of the table?

Posted by: spindrift at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (OguvZ)

It's a dinner theater?

Posted by: BignJames at April 22, 2024 10:12 AM (AwYPR)

192 Posted by: Military Moron at April 22, 2024 10:09 AM (JCZqz)

I had a great uncle who loved the stuff!

Slivovitz for breakfast!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 22, 2024 10:12 AM (gSZYf)

193 Or maybe it's because the yeast is all consumed by the fermentation, and thus *you* don't consume any.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

No, yeast is not used up in fermentation. It keeps budding until all energy source (any sugar it can cleave) is depleted.
Filtering gets rid of yeast, the 'no foreign substance may be used' strikes me as odd. What isn't a foreign agent to grapes, water, and yeast?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 10:12 AM (xfPBr)

194 Why are they all crowded on one side of the table?
Posted by: spindrift at April 22, 2024 10:02 AM (OguvZ)
++++
Nobody wants to look at the back of someone's head.

Posted by: The Artist at April 22, 2024 10:12 AM (HnUIn)

195 Nonkosher wines often use gelatin, rice, milk products or animal byproducts for clarification and purification processes.
Posted by: rickb223

Sounds like a pain in the Ashkelon.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 22, 2024 10:12 AM (IG4Id)

196 EVs don't need oil changes? They've still got moving parts that need lubrication, no?

-

Correct.

You can save $50 a year if you buy an EV.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:12 AM (qQsNc)

197 This "Last Supper" almost looks like the still from a movie:

https://tinyurl.com/2p43aadv
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 22, 2024

***
Or it's AI-generated. The person seated to Jesus' left looks rather like a woman.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:13 AM (J2vNu)

198 Pieter Coecke

I am surprised that no Morons have run with this.

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 10:13 AM (o3SCB)

199 200

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 10:13 AM (o3SCB)

200 200!

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 10:14 AM (o3SCB)

201 The guy sitting second from Jesus left looks like a Telosian from The Menagerie, the original Star Trek pilot. Didn't know they were at the Last Supper

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 22, 2024 10:14 AM (Wjvnb)

202 "Slivovitz? I hope this batch doesn't taste like the eldest daughter has been stomping out the grapes with her feet again."
___

Slivovitz = plum brandy. Which doesn't sound bad at all, but most batches can be also used like turpentine. Which can come in handy.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 22, 2024 10:14 AM (FpYQw)

203 Pieter Coecke

I am surprised that no Morons have run with this.
Posted by: m at April 22, 2024

***
Too easy a target. No challenge

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:14 AM (J2vNu)

204

EVs don't need oil changes? They've still got moving parts that need lubrication, no?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 10:09 AM (9yWhg)

Sure. As do IC cars. But they do Not need any oil changes. There’s a ton less money for dealers post sale on EVs than IC cars.

Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 10:15 AM (tpjlM)

205 Sounds like a pain in the Ashkelon.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

It's a real art. Which is why they have to go to the Ashkelon School to learn it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 10:15 AM (9yWhg)

206 Slivovitz = plum brandy. Which doesn't sound bad at all, but most batches can be also used like turpentine. Which can come in handy.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 22, 2024 10:14 AM (FpYQw)
++++
Drink it, strip paint with it, degrease with it, burn it for fuel, sanitize wounds with it.

It's the universal chemical!

Posted by: Slivovitz at April 22, 2024 10:15 AM (HnUIn)

207 Nonkosher wines often use gelatin, rice, milk products or animal byproducts for clarification and purification processes.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 10:06 AM (sHgnb)

Really? So my wine might actually have a touch of bacon in it???

So weird.

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 10:16 AM (mOhm3)

208 I looked at some earlier posts and realized that I Amy Schumered with #201. Have to remember to not go and do errands, it ruins the continuity

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 22, 2024 10:16 AM (Wjvnb)

209 Jesus: "Can I just eat my waffle?"

Posted by: Don Black at April 22, 2024 10:16 AM (oCjPU)

210 I don't get the crease in the middle of the tablecloth.

Posted by: pawn at April 22, 2024 10:16 AM (QB+5g)

211 Looking at the right medallion again, that could be the Sacrifice of Isaac too. If so, then the substitutionary sacrifice also fits into the Last Supper messaging. If the left one is David and Goliath, then maybe it represents Christ defeating Death. Hard to tell.
Posted by: Kris at April 22, 2024 09:57 AM (OyyDO)

Found a page that allows you to zoom in on sections of the image. 'David' is in the inscription for the one on the left.

https://tinyurl.com/2swbs4vb

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 10:16 AM (di6C2)

212 NYPost:

FBI found it ‘alarming’ that Fauci-funded virus research at Wuhan lab would leave no trace of ‘human manipulation’

The FBI was tipped off in April 2020 to gain-of-function virus research in China, funded by the agency formerly headed by Dr. Anthony Fauci, that “would leave no signature of purposeful human manipulation,” emails from agents at the bureau show.

Posted by: SMOD at April 22, 2024 10:16 AM (RHGPo)

213 The guy sitting second from Jesus left looks like a Telosian from The Menagerie, the original Star Trek pilot. Didn't know they were at the Last Supper
Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 22, 2024

***
For that matter, the guy just to Jesus' right looks much like Kor or Koloth, the earliest Klingon commanders we saw.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:16 AM (J2vNu)

214 There’s a ton less money for dealers post sale on EVs than IC cars.
Posted by: Montec

Until they need tires or a battery.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 10:16 AM (xfPBr)

215 >>Slivovitz for breakfast!

I spent an night that turned into morning in Norway drinking Akvavit moons ago. I thought the hangover would kill me and then I prayed it would.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 22, 2024 10:17 AM (JrMjK)

216 I don't get the crease in the middle of the tablecloth.
Posted by: pawn at April 22, 2024 10:16 AM (QB+5g)
++++
Tablecloths have to be folded for storage, and not everyone has a wife to iron them before setting the table.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:17 AM (HnUIn)

217 I don't get the crease in the middle of the tablecloth.
Posted by: pawn at April 22, 2024

***
"Texture, good sir! Texture!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:17 AM (J2vNu)

218 Slivovitz is mentioned in the novel Dracula. The count has a bottle of it in his coach for Jonathan Harker to partake of on the trip to Castle Dracula.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 10:17 AM (9yWhg)

219 Correct.

You can save $50 a year if you buy an EV.
Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:12 AM (qQsNc

Your snark non withstanding. That’s $50 per car a dealer doesn’t get. Multiply it by a few thousand cars sold per year per dealer.

Adds up to a lot of lost revenue. And that’s just for oil changes. Now do coolant flushes, timing chain replacements, transmission service and so on.

This is why dealers hate EVs.

Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 10:17 AM (tpjlM)

220 FBI found it ‘alarming’ that Fauci-funded virus research at Wuhan lab would leave no trace of ‘human manipulation’
____

I wonder who came by and told FBI to not be alarmed, it's all part of the plan.

Wouldn't you like to know?
- Judge in charge of FOIA requests that will be allowed to delay a response for 75 years.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 22, 2024 10:18 AM (FpYQw)

221 My Croatian grandmother drank Slivovich. Nasty stuff. Does the job though.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2024 10:18 AM (l+ral)

222 "I think those are Talosians," is the new, "It looks like Joan Collins."

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 10:19 AM (mOhm3)

223 Who gives a crap about the dealer not getting money?

An EV is wildly more expensive. The end. If your thoughts are "haha, I'm going to stick it to my dealer!" then you're already outside of 99.9% of normal buyers.

Which is a big part of why EVs fail with normal buyers.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:20 AM (qQsNc)

224 Okay, you've got me... what's with the hole in the floor foreground?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 10:20 AM (xfPBr)

225 Slivovitz = plum brandy. Which doesn't sound bad at all, but most batches can be also used like turpentine.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

He also was a character on Hill Street Blues!

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 10:20 AM (WXNFJ)

226 There's twelve plus Jesus at the table, plus the guy over to the left whom I maintain is the owner of the inn, and the dog.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:21 AM (J2vNu)

227 ... Adds up to a lot of lost revenue. And that’s just for oil changes. Now do coolant flushes, timing chain replacements, transmission service and so on.

This is why dealers hate EVs.
Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 10:17 AM (tpjlM)
++++
That seems suspect to me. Most routine IC service is fluids, and the dealer won't be doing those because fluids last a lot longer in EVs.

But tires and brakes are still routine wear items that need to be done, sometimes (often) even *more* often on EVs. If the dealer was getting that business, he's still going to get that business. The other stuff like timing chains and transmission service (other than just fluid exchange) are infrequent. EVs don't have a lot of that stuff and so even those occasional items will hit the bottom line, but there's far less of it in the first place on modern cars and most people don't go to the dealer for service after the warranty period. Dealers are paid for warranty work, of course, but not by the customer.

Are dealer service departments really putting up big numbers of oil changes? They might be, but it would surprise me. Why pay the dealer premium for an oil change?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:21 AM (HnUIn)

228 Also the mullions in the shape of a cross is a nice touch.

Posted by: pawn at April 22, 2024 10:21 AM (QB+5g)

229 AZdeplorable. Indoor privy.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 22, 2024 10:22 AM (LfcYE)

230 223 Who gives a crap about the dealer not getting money?
/-

That’s why dealers are pushing people away from EVs. They care.

Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 10:22 AM (tpjlM)

231 Nonkosher wines often use gelatin, rice, milk products or animal byproducts for clarification and purification processes.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 10:06 AM (sHgnb)

When I was home brewing, I used gelatin for clarifying in secondary fermenter.

Posted by: BignJames at April 22, 2024 10:22 AM (AwYPR)

232 *Kosher* wine? It's bacon free?

I once worked with a guy who was sort of an amateur kashrut (kosher law) scholar. According to him, the rules only applied to the preparation of meat but included anything that involved animal products in any peripheral way. So if you look at your package of aluminum foil, you may find a kosher marking because (according to him) the machinery used to make it is lubricated with food-grade lard and thus has to be certified as kosher compliant.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 22, 2024 10:22 AM (/y8xj)

233 CBD is being kind to the Christian morons posting this painting on Passover. Thanks man.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024 10:22 AM (z/ifB)

234 Breitbart: The Biden campaign is requiring its employees to be “up to date” on COVID-19 vaccines, according to a job listing from the campaign, which is searching for a diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) director.

A recent job listing for the Biden campaign seems to be relatively run-of-the-mill, but the fine print reveals that the Biden campaign is still very focused on COVID-19 vaccines even though President Joe Biden largely lost his battles against the unvaccinated during his presidency.

Posted by: SMOD at April 22, 2024 10:23 AM (RHGPo)

235 224 Okay, you've got me... what's with the hole in the floor foreground?
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 10:20 AM (xfPBr)

The staircase?

Posted by: Kris at April 22, 2024 10:23 AM (OyyDO)

236 Your snark non withstanding. That’s $50 per car a dealer doesn’t get. Multiply it by a few thousand cars sold per year per dealer.

People get their oil changed at the dealer? It's so much more expensive to get service work done their, though?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 22, 2024 10:23 AM (li9iE)

237 There's always room for jello.

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 10:23 AM (mOhm3)

238 Are dealer service departments really putting up big numbers of oil changes? They might be, but it would surprise me. Why pay the dealer premium for an oil change?
Posted by: Joe Mannix

The 1st 2 years required service was free the last time I bought a new car.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 10:23 AM (xfPBr)

239 Dealers aren't pushing customers away from EVs.

Dealers can't sell the EVs they get because customers don't want EVs because they're massively more expensive for a less useful vehicle.

This isn't hard.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:23 AM (Gakra)

240 Slivovitz = plum brandy. Which doesn't sound bad at all, but most batches can be also used like turpentine.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
*
He also was a character on Hill Street Blues!
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024

***
NYPD Blue -- Andy Sipowicz

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:23 AM (J2vNu)

241 That seems suspect to me. Most routine IC service is fluids, and the dealer won't be doing those because fluids last a lot longer in EVs.

...

I dunno. I remember dad adding distilled water to car batteries.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024 10:24 AM (z/ifB)

242 Are box wines kosher? Asking for a *hic* friend.

Posted by: Cillary Hinton at April 22, 2024 10:24 AM (PiwSw)

243 "Okay, you've got me... what's with the hole in the floor foreground?"

That's this piss trough that Judas is about to take a header into.

Posted by: pawn at April 22, 2024 10:24 AM (QB+5g)

244 Yeah tires need changing more often. But do dealers do a lot of that work? People take their cars to dealers for oil changes because they wrongly assume a warranty is voided if they don’t.

But tires? That’s a tire store thing for most people I’d imagine.

Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 10:24 AM (tpjlM)

245 Slivovitz = plum brandy. Which doesn't sound bad at all, but most batches can be also used like turpentine.
Posted by: Chuck Martel

The Japanese version is slightly less offensive. It's called Umeshu.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 22, 2024 10:24 AM (IG4Id)

246 NYPD Blue -- Andy Sipowicz
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Damn it! I stand corrected.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 10:25 AM (WXNFJ)

247 Nonkosher wines often use gelatin, rice, milk products or animal byproducts for clarification and purification processes.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 10:06 AM (sHgnb)

When I was home brewing, I used gelatin for clarifying in secondary fermenter.
Posted by: BignJames at April 22, 2024 10:22 AM (AwYPR)

If the gelatin is made from non-split hooves can it be kosher?

Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024 10:25 AM (z/ifB)

248 AZdeplorable. Indoor privy.
Posted by: Ben Had

Heh, the thought crossed my mind as well.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 10:25 AM (xfPBr)

249 211 Found a page that allows you to zoom in on sections of the image.

https://tinyurl.com/2swbs4vb
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 10:16 AM (di6C2)

Wild! Thanks!

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 10:25 AM (o3SCB)

250 212 NYPost:

FBI found it ‘alarming’ that Fauci-funded virus research at Wuhan lab would leave no trace of ‘human manipulation’
-------------------

Is this the beginning of them rehabilitating a reputation?

Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2024 10:25 AM (KOH4T)

251 People get their oil changed at the dealer? It's so much more expensive to get service work done their, though?
Posted by: Moron Analyst

-

It's a standard EV push to try and pretend that they have some advantage. Next comes the "they're all sports car with wonderful acceleration" (while ignoring range while using performance) right before an angry "you people are just like the folks who refused to give up their horses!"

Oh, and "most people don't need a truck"

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:25 AM (Gakra)

252 I dunno. I remember dad adding distilled water to car batteries.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024 10:24 AM (z/ifB)
++++
Heh. I don't think I've ever an unsealed car battery. You can still crack 'em open and top them up and try your luck, but they're usually tapped out. Apparently some people have had luck restoring car batteries with high-current welders, but I have no idea of that's real or BS.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:26 AM (HnUIn)

253 Slivovitz is mentioned in the novel Dracula. The count has a bottle of it in his coach for Jonathan Harker to partake of on the trip to Castle Dracula.

"I don't drink... vine. And I don't smoke... sheet."
-- George Hamilton's Dracula in "Love at First Bite"

Posted by: Oddbob at April 22, 2024 10:26 AM (/y8xj)

254 Jesus pointer finger is pretty freaky.

Also I'm late to the comments here but the artist must have lived in an area prone to encephalitis.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024 10:27 AM (z/ifB)

255
People get their oil changed at the dealer? It's so much more expensive to get service work done their, though?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 22, 2024

***
Some dealers may throw in a tire rotation, or have a regular oil change/rotation special, that can save you some dough. My '11 Regal came with four free oil changes/rotations, and I took full advantage of that. I kept on using them for that car because they were well-priced for those two services -- and the dealer was within a short walk of my barber.

Generally, though, dealer servicing is much more expensive. Something has to pay for that nice waiting room with the coffee and muffins. The BMW dealer has an espresso machine.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:27 AM (J2vNu)

256 When I was home brewing, I used gelatin for clarifying in secondary fermenter.
Posted by: BignJames

Irish moss.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 10:27 AM (xfPBr)

257 Next comes the "they're all sports car with wonderful acceleration
—

Are you saying that’s wrong? A lowly Kia can do 0-60 in 3 seconds these days.

Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 10:27 AM (tpjlM)

258 *
He also was a character on Hill Street Blues!
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024

***
NYPD Blue -- Andy Sipowicz

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius,
---------------------------------

Either way it's two shows you won't see the quality of again.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2024 10:27 AM (KOH4T)

259 The BMW dealer has an espresso machine.

--

And recommends 15K oil changes.

But EVs something something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:27 AM (Gakra)

260 "I don't drink... vine. And I don't smoke... sheet."
-- George Hamilton's Dracula in "Love at First Bite"
Posted by: Oddbob

That flick was peak Susan St. James. Hawt.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 10:28 AM (9yWhg)

261 255 Some dealers may throw in a tire rotation, or have a regular oil change/rotation special, that can save you some dough. My '11 Regal came with four free oil changes/rotations, and I took full advantage of that. I kept on using them for that car because they were well-priced for those two services -- and the dealer was within a short walk of my barber.

Generally, though, dealer servicing is much more expensive. Something has to pay for that nice waiting room with the coffee and muffins. The BMW dealer has an espresso machine.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:27 AM (J2vNu)

========

"Free oil changes for life" = "Low-cost opportunities for the dealer to try and upsell you into a new car every six months."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 22, 2024 10:28 AM (GBKbO)

262 I don't get the crease in the middle of the tablecloth.
Posted by: pawn

*********

Jesus welcomes them into the fold...

Posted by: Muldoon at April 22, 2024 10:28 AM (l4B/J)

263 Thanks, CBD. Happy Passover Eve.

The last meal that Jesus shared with his apostles is described in all four canonical Gospels as having taken place in the week of the Passover. This meal later became known as the Last Supper. (Wikipedia & many other 'sources.)

WikiMedia Commons: English: Pieter Coecke van Aelst's The Last Supper was one of the most popular images of the sixteenth century. It freely combined the compositions of Leonardo da Vinci's Last Supper in Milan (149

and Marcantonio Raimondi's engraving after Raphael's drawing of the same subject (circa 1510-20) with the enigmatic gestures of the apostles from the popular print by Albrecht Dürer (1523). The most notable differences between the version of 1528 and most others are the simplified checkerboard pattern of the floor and the dog in the foreground that misses its playmate.

Thanks.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 22, 2024 10:28 AM (NFX2v)

264 I dunno. I remember dad adding distilled water to car batteries.

That hasn't been a thing since at least the 80s.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 22, 2024 10:28 AM (2ocoG)

265 ... It's a standard EV push to try and pretend that they have some advantage. Next comes the "they're all sports car with wonderful acceleration" (while ignoring range while using performance) right before an angry "you people are just like the folks who refused to give up their horses!" ...
Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:25 AM (Gakra)
++++
They *do* have some advantage. If was in the market for an expensive, quick-as-hell second car, I'd definitely look seriously at an EV. They are quick and are often pretty damn nice. But that's not my market. I want a jack-of-all-trades car, and EVs are not that. I can run about town in my IC car (it's most of what I do), or drop everything and drive thousands of miles in a couple of days if I need to. I like that. It's what I want.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:28 AM (HnUIn)

266 Homicide - Life on the Streets

Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2024 10:29 AM (KOH4T)

267 Irish moss.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 10:27 AM (xfPBr)

Tried that a few times, too.

Posted by: BignJames at April 22, 2024 10:29 AM (AwYPR)

268 I dunno. I remember dad adding distilled water to car batteries.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024 10:24 AM (z/ifB)
++++
Heh. I don't think I've ever an unsealed car battery. You can still crack 'em open and top them up and try your luck, but they're usually tapped out. Apparently some people have had luck restoring car batteries with high-current welders, but I have no idea of that's real or BS.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:26 AM (HnUIn)

I remember waiting for the bubbles to stop.

Dad was a phd in biochemistry, so messing around with a simple ionic solution was probably irresistable.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024 10:29 AM (z/ifB)

269 EV acceleration is a one trick pony that wears out tires and immediately begins wearing down range.

Performance that people want is being able to use the vehicle like a car.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:29 AM (Gakra)

270 New York Slimes lol headline:

"Will a Mountain of Evidence Be Enough to Convict Trump?"

Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 22, 2024 10:29 AM (QvMr0)

271 An alcoholic Bulgarian officer I worked with in Kosovo would walk off base every few days, and return with a backpack full of 1.5 liter water bottles the locals had filled with homebrew rakija. He'd pour it in his morning coffee, and said they called it "priest's coffee" in Balkans areas, because the Orthodox priests (and monasteries) made and consumed lots of booze.

The Balkans is a weird place.

Posted by: Military Moron at April 22, 2024 10:29 AM (JCZqz)

272 NYPD Blue -- Andy Sipowicz
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Damn it! I stand corrected.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024

***
I had to look it up. I prefer HSB to NYPDB anyway; the characters in the former are more relatable, and there was more humor.

Dennis Franz was on both shows, though. On HSB he first played a crooked cop who got killed. Then he resurfaced as Lt. Norman Buntz, a competent cop.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:30 AM (J2vNu)

273 Every juror will be outed.
It's pretty easy to figure out when you don't show up to work etc. for 4-6 weeks
Posted by: redridinghood at April 22, 2024 10:08 AM (NpAcC)

Well, they are having the dude from The National Enquire there today - their stock and trade is making secrets public...but:

Would he...would Pecker?

Posted by: Boswell at April 22, 2024 10:30 AM (K+UlC)

274 263 the dog in the foreground that misses its playmate
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 22, 2024 10:28 AM (NFX2v)

?

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 10:30 AM (o3SCB)

275 EV acceleration is a one trick pony that wears out tires and immediately begins wearing down range.

Performance that people want is being able to use the vehicle like a car.
Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:29 AM (Gakra)
++++
Some people. That's what some people want. Some people want what the EV offers. Good for them. I hope they enjoy them.

Just leave me out of it. My choices are mine. Theirs are theirs. The market arbitrates.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:30 AM (HnUIn)

276 Irish moss.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

*********

That would have been funny posted by Masturbatin' Peat...

Posted by: Muldoon at April 22, 2024 10:30 AM (l4B/J)

277 If was in the market for an expensive, quick-as-hell second car

-

This. All day long this. That's the EV buyer in a nutshell, except also third and fourth car.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:30 AM (Gakra)

278 >>>++++
They *do* have some advantage. If was in the market for an expensive, quick-as-hell second car, I'd definitely look seriously at an EV. They are quick and are often pretty damn nice.
------------

You can also drive off a 300' cliff and suffer minor damage.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (KOH4T)

279 Well that ought to calm things down.

@EFischberger

🚨BREAKING: Columbia deactivated
@ShaiDavidai
's ID, preventing him from entering campus. He's currently outside requesting a police escort to get inside and protest in the encampment.

Meanwhile, members of the faculty and staff prepare to block him from entering

Posted by: JackStraw at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (JrMjK)

280 233 CBD is being kind to the Christian morons posting this painting on Passover. Thanks man.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024 10:22 AM (z/ifB)

Return respect for respect:

https://tinyurl.com/546szumk

The scene is pretty brutal.

I always liked this one:

https://tinyurl.com/4rew832h

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (di6C2)

281 "Free oil changes for life" = "Low-cost opportunities for the dealer to try and upsell you into a new car every six months."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 22, 2024 10:28 AM (GBKbO)

...

You don't even know where your cabin filter is--$75 please.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (z/ifB)

282 Homicide - Life on the Streets
Posted by: Braenyard

That was a fantastic show too.

I also liked 'The Wire' if for nothing else when Clay Davis says - "Sheeeeeeit!".

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (WXNFJ)

283 Just leave me out of it. My choices are mine. Theirs are theirs. The market arbitrates.

-

But you could save $50 a year if you'll spend the additional $30K!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (Gakra)

284 EV acceleration is a one trick pony that wears out tires and immediately begins wearing down range.

Performance that people want is being able to use the vehicle like a car.
Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024

***
It'd prob. be fun to test-drive a Tesla where I could check out that acceleration. But then they'd have to recharge it. No thanks.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (J2vNu)

285 You can also drive off a 300' cliff and suffer minor damage.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (KOH4T)
++++
Well, that one only suffered minor damage. I wouldn't count on that as the norm...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (HnUIn)

286 If the gelatin is made from non-split hooves can it be kosher?
Posted by: TexasDan

There's a vegie gelatin. Not sure on the use in brewing but it's available.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (IG4Id)

287 270 New York Slimes lol headline:

"Will a Mountain of Evidence Be Enough to Convict Trump?"
Posted by: ShainS -- Blood-Bath-and-Beyond angel investor at April 22, 2024 10:29 AM (QvMr0)

No matter how much you hate the NYT ....

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (o3SCB)

288 Lots of finger pointing going on.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 22, 2024 10:32 AM (fv27Y)

289

So the "protest" is by invitation only ?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 10:32 AM (Akjoo)

290 Last supper... where, in the tuberculosis asylum?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 22, 2024 10:32 AM (5tnEC)

291 Gail Heriot has some thoughts about California's attempts at "reparations."

https://instapundit.com/643332/

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 10:32 AM (xSw83)

292 "Jury in Trump trial will end early today as 1 juror has a toothache"

Don't they have alternates? Bullshit on bullshit. They are holding the bullshit for a toothache.

Posted by: the waiter at April 22, 2024 10:32 AM (vFG9F)

293 Speaking of the last supper - our parish returned to offering wine to parishioners during Communion this past weekend. I have never been comfortable with it and I'm not particularly germophobic.

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 10:33 AM (WXNFJ)

294 "Will a Mountain of Evidence Be Enough to Convict Trump?"

Except there is no crime here

Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 10:33 AM (Akjoo)

295 OK, I gotta go mow the lawn now. See y'all on the Rant thread, probably.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 22, 2024 10:33 AM (9yWhg)

296 You can also drive off a 300' cliff and suffer minor damage.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (KOH4T)

...

Or you can barely escape the ensuing fire like Richard Hammond.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024 10:33 AM (z/ifB)

297 Are dealer service departments really putting up big numbers of oil changes? They might be, but it would surprise me. Why pay the dealer premium for an oil change?
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Dealer oil change - $70 - $75
Fast Oil Change Places - $40 - $45

So unless people like buying dealerships a free dinner, no.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 10:33 AM (sHgnb)

298 292 "Jury in Trump trial will end early today as 1 juror has a toothache"

Don't they have alternates? Bullshit on bullshit. They are holding the bullshit for a toothache.
Posted by: the waiter at April 22, 2024 10:32 AM (vFG9F)

I said I'd be back at 2:30!

Posted by: The Juror, who was just misunderstood at April 22, 2024 10:34 AM (PiwSw)

299 300

Posted by: m at April 22, 2024 10:34 AM (o3SCB)

300 >>> Meanwhile, members of the faculty and staff prepare to block him from entering
Posted by: JackStraw at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (JrMjK)

Wouldn't it just be easier for the university to outfit him with an armband at this point?

Posted by: banana Dream at April 22, 2024 10:34 AM (Y6IkP)

301 Homicide - Life on the Streets
Posted by: Braenyard

That was a fantastic show too. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024

***
HLotS had an episode based on a real-life murder case in Da Swamp, where a uniformed cop held up a Vietnamese restaurant or bakery and killed a couple of people, then tried to say she was "tryin' to *stop* a robbery." She got convicted. After she was shipped off to Angola, officers noticed her father, with whom she lived, hadn't been seen in a while . . . and they found some human bones partly buried under her house.

The show even included that detail just before fadeout.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:35 AM (J2vNu)

302 But you could save $50 a year if you'll spend the additional $30K!!!
Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:31 AM (Gakra)
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And get a four-door luxury high-performance touring car will balls-to-the-wall acceleration and tight handling that is very good at being that.

It all depends on what you're after, and what the value to you is. If someone wants an EV for the things EVs are good at, cool. If someone wants one because they're hip and trendy, cool. Whatever the reason, cool. It's their money and they can do what they want with it. Marketing is always predicated on lies (or, at best, outrageous optimism) and every customer for every product has to do his own homework to determine what's right for him. That's how it always is, and EVs are no different other than in the quantity of bullshit involved and the quantity of government kingmaking, which is the real problem.

Someone being cornered into taking an EV because some dickhead in Washington said so is *not* cool.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:35 AM (HnUIn)

303 293 Speaking of the last supper - our parish returned to offering wine to parishioners during Communion this past weekend. I have never been comfortable with it and I'm not particularly germophobic.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22,

We started at Easter Vigil. I cried I was so happy. If you're not comfortable, don't receive. I'm over it. I need the Blood of Christ within me.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 22, 2024 10:35 AM (l+ral)

304 ***
I had tolook it up. I prefer HSB to NYPDB anyway; the characters in the former are more relatable, and there was more humor.

Dennis Franz was on both shows, though. On HSB he first played a crooked cop who got killed. Then he resurfaced as Lt. Norman Buntz, a competent cop.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:30 AM (J2vNu)

Aaaand, HSB had Barbara Babcock!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 22, 2024 10:36 AM (T+Iwg)

305 You can save $50 a year if you buy an EV.
...
EV acceleration is a one trick pony that wears out tires and immediately begins wearing down range
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Longevity is certainly the big concern I have for a recently purchased EV, but so far it's been pretty great. My wife does lots of short commutes through the day for groceries, kids activities, etc, which the EV (with about 220 miles of range) can easily handle, and then recharge overnight. For longer trips, she takes my car, and I can commute to and from work in the EV instead.

The money saved on gas and services is much more than $50/month...but if there's a big battery failure expense after 7 years or something, that'll be an issue. I can trust Chevy, though...right?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 22, 2024 10:37 AM (JCZqz)

306 Dealer oil change - $70 - $75
Fast Oil Change Places - $40 - $45

So unless people like buying dealerships a free dinner, no.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024

***
I bring my own filter and oil (about $30) to my regular mechanic, and he charges me $20. So the total is about $50. But it's only 2 x a year.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:37 AM (J2vNu)

307 Yeah, EVs are great. That's why everybody drives EVs. They are so much better than anything else.

Posted by: a drone at April 22, 2024 10:38 AM (vFG9F)

308 It all depends on what you're after, and what the value to you is. If someone wants an EV for the things EVs are good at, cool. If someone wants one because they're hip and trendy, cool. Whatever the reason, cool....

=

Absolutely.

When someone is cross shopping Q7s, Panameras, AMG S Classes, etc. and settles on the EV, that's great. More power to them. Same as the folks choosing the Raptor over the Mustang or the Camaro for their toy.

But yeah, being told that people WILL buy this product because people who have chauffeurs and personal shoppers know that this is what their subjects need? That's a bit of a problem.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:38 AM (Gakra)

309
Aaaand, HSB had Barbara Babcock!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 22, 2024

***
Exactly! And Jennifer (Super-Hot) Tilly in a few episodes, too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:38 AM (J2vNu)

310 297 Dealer oil change - $70 - $75
Fast Oil Change Places - $40 - $45

So unless people like buying dealerships a free dinner, no.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 10:33 AM (sHgnb)

Some dealerships will cancel their extended warranty if you don't exclusively use their dealership for oil changes and coolant flushes, or other "scheduled maintenance".

Posted by: XTC at April 22, 2024 10:38 AM (UnA8+)

311 307 Yeah, EVs are great. That's why everybody drives EVs. They are so much better than anything else.
Posted by: a drone at April 22, 2024 10:38 AM (vFG9F)

======

Better than Biden?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 22, 2024 10:38 AM (GBKbO)

312 ... Longevity is certainly the big concern I have for a recently purchased EV, but so far it's been pretty great. My wife does lots of short commutes through the day for groceries, kids activities, etc, which the EV (with about 220 miles of range) can easily handle, and then recharge overnight. For longer trips, she takes my car, and I can commute to and from work in the EV instead. ...
Posted by: Moron Analyst at April 22, 2024 10:37 AM (JCZqz)
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This is, I suspect, the natural habitat of the mass-market EV: the second car. That mass market will be comparatively small (as compared to the overall car market). I doubt that this scenario actually results in total lifecycle cost savings, but it's probably pretty close.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:39 AM (HnUIn)

313 We started at Easter Vigil. I cried I was so happy. If you're not comfortable, don't receive. I'm over it. I need the Blood of Christ within me.

Posted by: nurse ratched

Me too (hic!). Preferably in 750ml increments. Huma! Leave the Bota Box here, and put on something a little more exciting...I'm feeling frisky.

Posted by: Hillary! at April 22, 2024 10:39 AM (JCZqz)

314 Sorry to interrupt, but I want to highlight this portion from the Instapundit link above.

"Recently, the Senate Judiciary Committee voted to create a “Freedmen’s Agency.” Shades of Nuremberg: The Agency will be required to have a “Genealogy Office,” which will be charged with the task of tracing the pedigree of those who apply for reparations to ensure their eligibility."

One of the last things the state needs to do is organize a fucking genealogy of its citizens. Not unless it wants to create an official racial caste system. I say this without hyperbole, but this is straight up fucking totalitarian.

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 10:39 AM (xSw83)

315 Homicide, Life on the Street, Robin Williams

https://shorturl.at/rwAY1

Posted by: Braenyard at April 22, 2024 10:40 AM (KOH4T)

316 307 Yeah, EVs are great. That's why everybody drives EVs. They are so much better than anything else.
Posted by: a drone at April 22, 2024 10:38 AM (vFG9F)

Joe is making a good point. If you are comfortable, you can spend your money however you like.

However, for a single borderline driver, can you trust your life to it? Because you are.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 10:40 AM (di6C2)

317 Some dealerships will cancel their extended warranty if you don't exclusively use their dealership for oil changes and coolant flushes, or other "scheduled maintenance".
Posted by: XTC at April 22, 2024

***
Possible violation of Magnuson-Moss Act.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:40 AM (J2vNu)

318 EV's are expensive, impractical, inefficient, wasteful, dangerous, depreciate faster, have a shorter useable lifespan, and generally suck.

Other than that, they're awesome.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 22, 2024 10:40 AM (JIdXK)

319 Aaaand, HSB had Barbara Babcock!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 22, 2024 10:36 AM (T+Iwg)

...

HSB really pushed the boundaries of nudity in prime time american tv as I recall. One guy mooned the camera and I think there was an actress where we pretty much saw her boob?

Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024 10:40 AM (z/ifB)

320 Daily Mail: EXCLUSIVEFormer senior policy advisor to Obama White House charged with child sex offences in British court

https://tinyurl.com/3cfr73zt

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 10:41 AM (xSw83)

321 230 223 Who gives a crap about the dealer not getting money?
/-

That’s why dealers are pushing people away from EVs. They care.
Posted by: Montec at April 22, 2024 10:22 AM (tpjlM)

Didn't stop dealers from overstocking EVs. Which puts them in a tight spot.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 22, 2024 10:41 AM (eYoxG)

322 298 292 "Jury in Trump trial will end early today as 1 juror has a toothache"
Posted by: the waiter at April 22, 2024 10:32 AM (vFG9F)

I said I'd be back at 2:30!
Posted by: The Juror, who was just misunderstood

IT'S A REFERENCE TO AN OLD JOKE PUNCHLINE, BECAUSE 2:30 SOUNDS LIKE "TOOTH HURTY".

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at April 22, 2024 10:42 AM (JCZqz)

323 320 Daily Mail: EXCLUSIVEFormer senior policy advisor to Obama White House charged with child sex offences in British court

https://tinyurl.com/3cfr73zt
Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 10:41 AM (xSw83)

Saw that last night linked on Insty.

What an odd coincidence. Plus: it had to have been REALLY bad for them not to brush it under the rug.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 10:42 AM (di6C2)

324 You left off the democrat child molester's name, Robert.

Rahamim 'Rami' Shy

Posted by: fd at April 22, 2024 10:42 AM (vFG9F)

325 I bring my own filter and oil (about $30) to my regular mechanic, and he charges me $20. So the total is about $50. But it's only 2 x a year.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I'm doing that now. After a quickie oil change place destroyed the oil drain pan plug threads.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024 10:43 AM (sHgnb)

326 Or, they are trying to make a point.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 10:43 AM (di6C2)

327 HSB really pushed the boundaries of nudity in prime time american tv as I recall. One guy mooned the camera and I think there was an actress where we pretty much saw her boob?
Posted by: TexasDan at April 22, 2024

***
Again, I think that was NYPD Blue. HSB was groundbreaking enough in storytelling, and they were much earlier too, the first half of the Eighties. The "mooning" thing might have been done by Dennis Franz . . . not the kind of thing you'd want to see on your TV screen, but it was considered "realistic."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:43 AM (J2vNu)

328 EPA is waiving a bunch of summer gas restrictions because it’s an election year and the incumbent is a democrat.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 22, 2024 10:43 AM (JTwsP)

329 Dealer oil change - $70 - $75
Fast Oil Change Places - $40 - $45

Fast oil change places have a reputation, especially on newer cars, for fucking up and causing engine damage. Statistically it doesn't happen much, but it happens enough.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 22, 2024 10:43 AM (2ocoG)

330 I lve threads with "Moanin' The Contrarian" contributing.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 22, 2024 10:43 AM (l4B/J)

331 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Late again. So how many Last Supper's were there anyway?
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 22, 2024 10:44 AM (W/lyH)

332 Some dealerships will cancel their extended warranty if you don't exclusively use their dealership for oil changes and coolant flushes, or other "scheduled maintenance".
Posted by: XTC

Tie in sales are illegal and can be lucrative to both victim and lawyer.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 22, 2024 10:44 AM (xfPBr)

333 Possible violation of Magnuson-Moss Act.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:40 AM (J2vNu)
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I think that Act only applies to manufacturer warranties.

Buy a Chevy from the dealer advertising a "complimentary 200,000 mile warranty." The manufacturer offers a *real* warranty of 36,000 miles. That one is beholden to the Act. The "dealer warranty" isn't really a warranty as far as I know, but is rather a service contract agreement between you and the dealer. One of the conditions of that contract is that there shall be no non-dealer service.

The manufacturer's 36,000 mile warranty is the real one. The dealer's "200,000 mile warranty from Ted Johnson Chevrolet" is not a real warranty, is probably borderline false advertising given the conditions attached to it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:44 AM (HnUIn)

334 328 EPA is waiving a bunch of summer gas restrictions because it’s an election year and the incumbent is a democrat.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 22, 2024 10:43 AM (JTwsP)

Gas here is back up to $5.39

Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 10:44 AM (Akjoo)

335 328 EPA is waiving a bunch of summer gas restrictions because it’s an election year and the incumbent is a democrat.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 22, 2024 10:43 AM (JTwsP)

=====

So, is Gaia going to be angry and try to destroy a Democrat run city with natural disasters?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting kaiju with Ishiro Honda at April 22, 2024 10:44 AM (GBKbO)

336 p I bring my own filter and oil (about $30) to my regular mechanic, and he charges me $20. So the total is about $50. But it's only 2 x a year.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
*
I'm doing that now. After a quickie oil change place destroyed the oil drain pan plug threads.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 22, 2024

***
This time I'm going to order the 6-qt. Havoline oil box and a filter from WM, and pick them up. Should save me a good $5-10, as the Buick takes 6 qts. and a single quart is like $5 all by itself.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:45 AM (J2vNu)

337 NBCnews: Melting polar ice is slowing the Earth's rotation, with possible consequences for timekeeping

CBSnews: Earth is spinning faster than it used to. Clocks might have to skip a second to keep up.

I wonder which way the Earth "identifies" ?

Posted by: SMOD at April 22, 2024 10:45 AM (RHGPo)

338 The money saved on gas and services is much more than $50/month...but if there's a big battery failure expense after 7 years or something, that'll be an issue. I can trust Chevy, though...right?
Posted by: Moron Analyst

-

Oh sure, I think they definitely have a niche. I have no problem with them at all no matter how I sound. I like cars (even though they're not really cars, they're "EVs") and support interesting stuff.

I wouldn't criticize anyone buying a dirt bike or Corvette, either. The problem would be people insisting that everyone needs to buy a dirt bike or how a Corvette suits everyone's commute needs before attempting to force everyone to buy a Corvette.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:45 AM (Gakra)

339 Some dealerships will cancel their extended warranty if you don't exclusively use their dealership for oil changes and coolant flushes, or other "scheduled maintenance".

Uh.... I thought there was an actual federal law prohibiting that.

Posted by: Oddbob at April 22, 2024 10:46 AM (/y8xj)

340 During the Volkswagen malicious compliance emissions debacle a few years ago the CEO testified that "life of the vehicle" is the warranty term.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:46 AM (Gakra)

341 Uh.... I thought there was an actual federal law prohibiting that.
Posted by: Oddbob at April 22, 2024 10:46 AM (/y8xj)

Heh. You must be new here.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 10:47 AM (di6C2)

342 Pretty sure you can make this shit up.

via insty

https://tinyurl.com/bde3vrdj

Posted by: BignJames at April 22, 2024 10:47 AM (AwYPR)

343 They are citing Russia’s invasion of Ukraine and some other bs, but it’s all about saving idiot dems from their idiot policies. Expect the SPR to be drained too.

It’s a matter of national security that dems can’t face the consequences of their stupidity.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 22, 2024 10:47 AM (JTwsP)

344 >>> Other than that, they're awesome.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 22, 2024 10:40 AM (JIdXK)

I can see the benefit of having outstanding performance in the < $100,000 price range. That has no appeal to me though. A gets you from A to B, that's all I care about.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 22, 2024 10:47 AM (Y6IkP)

345 Oh, hell. This is just creepy.

https://tinyurl.com/ycy9b2cf

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 10:50 AM (di6C2)

346 Dealers can't sell the EVs they get because customers don't want EVs because they're massively more expensive for a less useful vehicle.

Some people like EVs. For some people, they are practical.

Some people hate EVs. For many people, they are impractical.

The government should neither push them nor subsidize them. But it does. Failure to take advantage of that if you're one of the people for whom they make sense would be stupid.

No one here will have their minds changed on the matter.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 22, 2024 10:50 AM (U7wke)

347 https://tinyurl.com/bde3vrdj
Posted by: BignJames at April 22, 2024 10:47 AM (AwYPR)

*Gets on knees*

Lord, now you know I'm not the prayin' type but if I can ask just one thing. Can you see to it that the polar ice caps melt a little fast, Lord? Can you do it for me? For your old pal, Rob?

Kthnxamen!

Posted by: Robert at April 22, 2024 10:50 AM (6ziUk)

348 sorry folks, got here late this a.m.!

Have the fights started yet?

Posted by: kallisto at April 22, 2024 10:51 AM (dCxaZ)

349 As someone with a fast ICE car and another extremely fast ICE car, acceleration is nice but mostly pointless.

Our old Buick merges into traffic just as well as the hot rod.

Plus there's the antisocial behavior, tickets, and reckless driving aspect. It's comical that it's a "pro" selling point for EVs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:51 AM (Gakra)

350 293 Speaking of the last supper - our parish returned to offering wine to parishioners during Communion this past weekend. I have never been comfortable with it and I'm not particularly germophobic.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 10:33 AM (WXNFJ)

Don't get me started on this nonsense.
It's not extra-symbolic. Our Lord is entirely there- Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Host. You don't need the wine, as well.
Just more "feel good" tinkering from VII.

Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at April 22, 2024 10:51 AM (jN2/U)

351 Have the fights started yet?
Posted by: kallisto at April 22, 2024 10:51 AM (dCxaZ)
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Of course.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:52 AM (HnUIn)

352 Pretty sure you can make this shit up.

via insty

https://tinyurl.com/bde3vrdj

LOLOL. Their evidence of global warming causing floods is that there was a flood once in San Francisco, a city literally built on landfill dumped into the ocean.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 22, 2024 10:52 AM (2ocoG)

353 I’ve always wondered how much longer the charge would last if they limited the acceleration of EV’s to something more practical like 0-60 in 6 seconds.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 22, 2024 10:53 AM (JTwsP)

354 Have the fights started yet?
Posted by: kallisto at April 22, 2024 10:51 AM (dCxaZ)
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Of course.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:52 AM (HnUIn)
===

No they haven't

Okay, now they have.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 22, 2024 10:53 AM (RIvkX)

355 The way Tucker described NRO John Poederherst on Rogan's show filled me with schadenfreude.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 22, 2024 10:53 AM (cf/0E)

356 Pretty sure you can make this shit up. ...
Posted by: BignJames at April 22, 2024 10:47 AM (AwYPR)
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A new study out of UCLA says same-sex couples are at greater “risk of exposure to the adverse effects of climate change” than straight couples.

These effects include “wildfires, floods, smoke-filled skies, and drought,” according to a report from KQED.

Same-sex couples disproportionately live in coastal regions and cities, which are more vulnerable to such disasters. They’re also more likely “to live in areas with poor infrastructure, worse-built environments.”
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Hilarious. "The places with lots of gay people - that is, the blue hives - have shitty environmental management and infrastructure" is an oddly self-aware argument, even thought those making the argument, ironically, have no awareness of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:54 AM (HnUIn)

357 Ha. Imagine taking your wife to buy your 16 year old his first car and she wants him to have an EV.

"So what's the 0-60 on this thing?"

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:54 AM (Gakra)

358 Plus there's the antisocial behavior, tickets, and reckless driving aspect. It's comical that it's a "pro" selling point for EVs.

Being able to go hilarious extra-legal speeds has been a selling point since the 60s muscle cars. Plus it keeps YouTube well stocked with Mustang drivers accidentally plowing into things.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 22, 2024 10:55 AM (2ocoG)

359 Wait, so gays and blacks and Democrats as a whole have been in charge of those places exclusively for 50+ years, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:56 AM (Gakra)

360 349 As someone with a fast ICE car and another extremely fast ICE car, acceleration is nice but mostly pointless.

Our old Buick merges into traffic just as well as the hot rod.

Plus there's the antisocial behavior, tickets, and reckless driving aspect. It's comical that it's a "pro" selling point for EVs.
Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:51 AM (Gakra)

One can make the argument that quick acceleration is a safety FEATURE. The ability to pass quickly and safely and get the hell out of the way of the crazy people. The ability to quickly merge into fast moving traffic (we all know that one particular on ramp.)

But that also reminds me: how come they never mention handling? My Mustang is awesome for the above, but the handling can be a bit squirrelly when you use that power if not careful. By contrast, the Miata might have had a 1/3rd of the horsepower, but it's handling was rock solid, unnatural even. It inspired so much more confidence and stayed NAILED down to the lane where you put it. You would slide out of the seat before the car lost traction- that is actually literally true, at least on dry ground.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024 10:56 AM (di6C2)

361 Ha. Imagine taking your wife to buy your 16 year old his first car and she wants him to have an EV.

"So what's the 0-60 on this thing?"
Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:54 AM (Gakra)
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Heh. On the plus side, it's all software-controlled and those interfaces could be exposed. That would probably be an excellent selling feature in the "in-town runabout" EV category for parents.

"Well, Junior, the 0-60 and the top speed are whatever I say it is. When you borrow the car, I say that it's a 10-second 0-60 and a 65 MPH top speed. Don't go nuts with my wheels."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:56 AM (HnUIn)

362 sorry folks, got here late this a.m.!

Have the fights started yet?
Posted by: kallisto at April 22, 2024 10:51 AM

.45!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 22, 2024 10:56 AM (I6W2K)

363 There’s tons of videos of ppl putting their EV in a tree or ditch because 0-60 in 2.5 seconds is not for your average libtard.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 22, 2024 10:56 AM (JTwsP)

364 The apostles are all old farts. I imagine that in reality they were young adults.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Eaten By Cannibals (I Got Better) at April 22, 2024 10:56 AM (FVME7)

365 357 Ha. Imagine taking your wife to buy your 16 year old his first car and she wants him to have an EV.

Our Kids had jobs to help pay for their cars.. Used of course.. They were taught how to do maintenance including oil changes and tire changes.. Daughter still does all that because her husband never learned it... LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 10:57 AM (Akjoo)

366 But that also reminds me: how come they never mention handling? My Mustang is awesome for the above, but the handling can be a bit squirrelly when you use that power if not careful. By contrast, the Miata might have had a 1/3rd of the horsepower, but it's handling was rock solid, unnatural even. It inspired so much more confidence and stayed NAILED down to the lane where you put it. You would slide out of the seat before the car lost traction- that is actually literally true, at least on dry ground.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024

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My big W126 Mercedes, the 420SEL baby limo, was kind of like that despite its size.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 10:58 AM (J2vNu)

367 350 293 Speaking of the last supper - our parish returned to offering wine to parishioners during Communion this past weekend. I have never been comfortable with it and I'm not particularly germophobic.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 22, 2024 10:33 AM (WXNFJ)

Don't get me started on this nonsense.
It's not extra-symbolic. Our Lord is entirely there- Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Host. You don't need the wine, as well.
Just more "feel good" tinkering from VII.
Posted by: sal: tolle adversarium et afflige inimicum at April 22, 2024 10:51 AM (jN2/U)

It was offered under both species in the past as well. The point of not doing so is rather an obscure theological point today.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 22, 2024 10:59 AM (eYoxG)

368 "I see you've popped for our 'Never claim" policy, which is quite useful if you never make a claim, but if you *do*, well then, there you go..."

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at April 22, 2024 10:59 AM (fv27Y)

369 Our Kids had jobs to help pay for their cars.. Used of course.. They were taught how to do maintenance including oil changes and tire changes.. Daughter still does all that because her husband never learned it... LOL
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 10:57 AM (Akjoo)
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Heh. Ditto.

Except that I don't do it anymore. I was in my mid-late 20s and was getting ready to do an oil change. I had my equipment out and was getting to ready to start when it occurred to me, "It's 102 degrees out, I hate this shit, I always have, and I have a real job. I could put all this away and go to the Jiffy Lube right down the street."

I put it all away and went to the Jiffy Lube right down the street. That marked the last time I even started the process of changing my own oil...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:59 AM (HnUIn)

370 But that also reminds me: how come they never mention handling? My Mustang is awesome for the above, but the handling can be a bit squirrelly when you use that power if not careful. By contrast, the Miata might have had a 1/3rd of the horsepower, but it's handling was rock solid, unnatural even.
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Yep. Not being an impediment is important, but I doubt there are even a handful of cars that can't hit 60 in what would've been 80s mid-level Porsche and Ferrari numbers these days.

I'm guessing handling of the EV behemoths is all software based similar to enormous SUVs and for the same reason. The opposite of the Miata that could take the on-ramp at 60mph because it was a solid handler and could keep up with the mustang through the mountains because it didn't need to shed speed in turns.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 10:59 AM (Gakra)

371 I put it all away and went to the Jiffy Lube right down the street. That marked the last time I even started the process of changing my own oil...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 22, 2024 10:59 AM (HnUIn)

This is true... That's me now

Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 11:00 AM (Akjoo)

372 One can make the argument that quick acceleration is a safety FEATURE. The ability to pass quickly and safely and get the hell out of the way of the crazy people. The ability to quickly merge into fast moving traffic (we all know that one particular on ramp.) . . .

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 22, 2024

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Which is why I wanted the 300-hp six in the Buick and before that, the 240hp turbo four in the BMW.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 11:00 AM (J2vNu)

373 "Our Kids had jobs to help pay for their cars."

Both of my sons bought their own cars. They were trained enough to do know how to do things like change water pumps and rear axles on their own vehicles. I also taught them how to replace a toilet.

Posted by: fd at April 22, 2024 11:01 AM (vFG9F)

374
Our Kids had jobs to help pay for their cars.. Used of course.. They were taught how to do maintenance including oil changes and tire changes.. Daughter still does all that because her husband never learned it... LOL
Posted by: It's me donna

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Absolutely the right way to approach it. Skin in the game and all that.

Posted by: Moron Robbie supports women working until they're 80 years old. You go, girls! at April 22, 2024 11:01 AM (Gakra)

375 Noodus throckmortonii

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 22, 2024 11:02 AM (J2vNu)

376 Gas here is back up to $5.39
Posted by: It's me donna at April 22, 2024 10:44 AM (Akjoo)

Gas around NH/VT/Upstate NY is around 3.59-3.79 per gallon.
Went up 30-50 cents in 2 weeks.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 22, 2024 11:09 AM (N39Ws)

377 I bet they had Meat there No Vegans were there

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 22, 2024 04:35 PM (wGqjj)

378 274 263 the dog in the foreground that misses its playmate
Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 22, 2024 10:28 AM (NFX2v)

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Posted by: m

Sorry, I missed your response.

There are multiple paintings. The 1st is Pieter Coecke van Aelst, Belvoir Castle, 1527, with two dogs playing and then a "simplified checkerboard floor pattern, with one dog, 1528.

Then there's the 1531 painting with two dogs and a 1545 also with two dogs. And finally, Hendrik Goltzius, after Pieter Coecke van Aelst, Last Supper, 1585, also has two dogs playing and much more Bibical appearing persons gathered for supper.

Posted by: L - If they do it with you, they'll do it to you, too at April 22, 2024 06:08 PM (NFX2v)

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