THE MORNING RANT: Any GOP Presidential Nominee Will Be Criminally Indicted and Impeached if Elected; plus, Remembering Reagan’s “Exhausting” Presidency

Everyone is exhausted with Donald Trump, and his legal problems, and his scandals, and his indictments, and his multiple impeachments, etc. If only we could get someone else without Trump’s baggage, the media could move on, and we’d finally put Democrats on the defensive about Biden’s record.

While I am certainly disappointed that DeSantis won’t be our nominee, I have no illusions about how he would be treated. The Democrats and the media have seen it as their mission to unseat every Republican President since they took down Nixon. Every single Republican nominee in my lifetime has been “literally Hitler,” including Bob Dole who actually fought against Hitler. Every Republican President in my life has had multiple scandals that were “bigger than Watergate.” And now that impeachments and indictments are on the table, it is an absolute certainty that every GOP presidential candidate going forward will face multiple nuisance indictments, and every Republican President will be impeached if there is a Democrat-controlled House.

Amidst all this, the NeverTrump faux-conservatives are in a constant state of reverence about Ronald Reagan, and how shocked and disgusted St. Ronnie would be about Trump’s Republican Party. Don’t misunderstand, Reagan was the best president of my life until Trump’s first three years. I admire Reagan, and I wish he could have governed by executive order like his successors started doing. But I also remember as a high schooler interested in politics that the 1980 equivalent of NeverTrumpers were appalled by Reagan, which led to John Anderson running as 1980’s version of Evan McMullin. Country Club Republicans were as repulsed by Reagan’s blue collar coalition as NeverTrumpers are with MAGA.

With polite Republicans of today lamenting that we’re stuck with Trump rather than having a dignified, non-controversial candidate like Ronald Reagan, I would like to re-publish a piece I wrote back in 2019.

”Is Trump's Presidency More ‘Exhausting’ Than Reagan's Presidency?” [Ace of Spades HQ – Buck Throckmorton – 11/29/2019]

A recent meme among allegedly conservative pundits is that they are *exhausted* from covering the Trump presidency. With a heavy heart, they state that the exhausting nature of Trump’s presidency is not sustainable, and therefore something must change. Ace’s readers know that these are the same police-the-right quislings who crave guest appearances on cable news shows, and who spend all day on Twitter flirting with the left-wing journalists at ABCNNBCBS. All the same, the issue of “Trump exhaustion among the right” has received lots of media play. So let’s try to recall if there was ever another Republican President whose tenure was “exhausting”.
The first president I ever voted for was Ronald Reagan. By the end of his presidency I was *exhausted*. Although I never stopped supporting him, I was worn out from the endless “scandals” the media breathlessly reported on every day. It wasn’t just Iran-Contra. The media reported incessantly on the “homeless crisis” that was a direct result of Reagan’s cruel domestic policies. Not only did Reagan not care about the homeless, but homelessness somehow made the rich even richer. The media told me this. And I was exhausted.
Remember Bitburg? By offering remembrance to fallen German WWII conscripts, Reagan set off a media firestorm, without which the media would have politely returned to reporting on Reagan’s foreign policy goals. And what was Reagan’s chief foreign policy goal? Via the arms race he sought to blow the world up in a nuclear war. The media told me this. And I was exhausted.
Remember when Nancy Reagan replaced the existing White House china with expensive new china paid for entirely by private contributions, at no cost to the taxpayers? I don’t recall why, but this was an outrage. There was a media firestorm. Everyone was outraged. All the polite conservatives told me that this kind of outrageous behavior is what kept the media from reporting on Democrat scandals and misbehavior instead. And I was exhausted.
And it never stopped, whether it was “ketchup is a vegetable” or “trees cause pollution”, the outrages never stopped. The media repeatedly told me that Reagan was just like Nixon and Hitler, only much worse. They were exhausted. Everyone was exhausted. I was so exhausted that I happily cast my vote in 1988 for George HW Bush, ready for the media to calm down, and knowing that I’d no longer be exhausted in the era of GHW Bush’s kinder and gentler conservatism.
Guess what. Both Bush presidencies were exhausting. The media’s outrage machinery never stops when a Republican is in the White House. In the fashion they attacked Reagan and both Bushes, the media also attacks Trump, but they have never before encountered a Republican President who fights back and treats them with the contempt they deserve.
And to those “conservative” pundits who are exhausted. Quit your job. Learn to code. Do something else that isn’t as exhausting as reading Tweets from your Beltway idols. Real Americans sweating in real jobs don’t need you whimpering that it’s time for us to surrender in this war that we are winning

It hardly needs to be said, but if Ronald Reagan were running for President today, he’d be facing multiple indictments and blue states would be kicking him off the ballot. And all the polite Republicans that are exhausted with Trump would be apoplectic that a divisive, flawed man like Ronald Reagan was leading the Republican Party.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 st!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:00 AM (yjAVs)

2 Good morning horde

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2024 11:00 AM (fwDg9)

3 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

4 Maybe have a talk with McClintock.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:01 AM (IFNME)

5 Every single Republican nominee in my lifetime has been “literally Hitler,” including Bob Dole who actually fought against Hitler. Every Republican President in my life has had multiple scandals that were “bigger than Watergate.” And now that impeachments and indictments are on the table, it is an absolute certainty that every GOP presidential candidate going forward will face multiple nuisance indictments, and every Republican President will be impeached if there is a Democrat-controlled House.
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Yup. There hasn't exactly been a "reset" of the rules, but a gradual remaking of them until we get where we are now: being outside the Uniparty yet inside politics is now a crime.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (yjAVs)

6 only we could get someone else without Trump’s baggage

STEINER WILL COME

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (oJpPh)

7 I noodled.

Posted by: BifBewalski at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (MsrgL)

8 Joe calls us "magats"....maggots...it's so clever.

Posted by: BignJames at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (AwYPR)

9 Babar in the Slammer was a disturbing entry in the series.

Posted by: spindrift at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (MqhXY)

10 Oh and some Sheriff in Texas charged DeSantis with human trafficking, didnt he?

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (IFNME)

11 Every Republican President in my life has had multiple scandals that were “bigger than Watergate.”

All while ignoring the fact that everything Owebama did while in office was 100x bigger than Watergate......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:03 AM (Zz0t1)

12 “ketchup is a vegetable”

Biden is ketchup?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in Solidarity with the Struggle to maintain Moron standards at February 09, 2024 11:03 AM (oJpPh)

13 So is this a pro-Trump post or just a Sigh, welp, here we are type post.

Just want to know how to comment.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 09, 2024 11:03 AM (sX1BW)

14 The establishment hated Reagan at the time, too.

And then they took the mantle of his name and ran with it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)

15 Oh great, now Buck is going to get banned.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (WF0+t)

16 I said as much to a dem friend of mine. (yeah, I got one of them). And summed it up by saying that essentially the dems want veto power over all Republican nominees.
He agreed.

We haven't spoken since.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (W/lyH)

17 So is this a pro-Trump post or just a Sigh, welp, here we are type post. Just want to know how to comment. Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 09, 2024 11:03 AM (sX1BW)

Yes.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (7B5FA)

18 The establishment hated Reagan at the time, too.

And then they took the mantle of his name and ran with it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Yep. That stinkin' Bush chief among them.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (9yWhg)

19 11 All while ignoring the fact that everything Owebama did while in office was 100x bigger than Watergate......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:03 AM (Zz0t1)

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Obama extrajudicially murdered two American citizens while his attorney general tried to frame the American people for cartel violence by illegally giving guns to Mexican drug cartels.

But his only real scandal was the tan suit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)

20 Is it time to consider Let It Burn v Make it Burn again?

I kinda think Make It Burn has already won the argument.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:05 AM (IFNME)

21 Oh great, now Buck is going to get banned.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (WF0+t)

It was good knowing you.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:05 AM (i24o9)

22 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 09, 2024 11:05 AM (T4tVD)

23 It's like when Neville "Longbottom" Chamberlain thought he could negotiate peace with Hitler (yeah, I went there).

If only try to reason with him....

No. Draw your line. Trump is the border. Cross it, try to crush it, and find out what happens next.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:05 AM (PIFH6)

24 The left has mastered the art of lawfare to the point they're willing to destroy the republic to gain and keep power.

Not really realizing that it will not work out for them in the long run.

The world is watching and the world is laughing at these assholes. They will NOT be part of the future leadership when the NWO comes a callin.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

25 It hardly needs to be said, but if Ronald Reagan were running for President today, he’d be facing multiple indictments and blue states would be kicking him off the ballot. And all the polite Republicans that are exhausted with Trump would be apoplectic that a divisive, flawed man like Ronald Reagan was leading the Republican Party.
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And everything else, too. He was a celebrity, after all. "Casting couch" allegations would be flooding in, "exposes" of his time in Hollywood would be running on the major nets, etc.

Outside the lawfare component is the cultural/social component, and nobody is immune to that, either. "Matt Gaetz banged a younger chick! Immolate him!" "Roy Moore married a much younger woman! He's a creeper! Defenestrate him!" "Ron DeSantis wears lifts! He's insecure! Destroy him!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:05 AM (yjAVs)

26 There is only one party with the sole, exclusive right to rule America as it and it alone sees fit.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 09, 2024 11:05 AM (CNd16)

27 Oh great, now Buck is going to get banned.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Buck, can I have your stuff?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:06 AM (9yWhg)

28 The establishment hated Reagan at the time, too. And then they took the mantle of his name and ran with it. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)

Landslide reelections have a way of getting historical respect.

That said, like Trump, Reagan was sui generis and a uniquely American story.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 09, 2024 11:06 AM (7B5FA)

29 Which is why I don't give one shit about democrats or what they think.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 09, 2024 11:06 AM (G8h7g)

30
But his only real scandal was the tan suit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)

And that first pitch......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)

31 The Democrats and the media have seen it as their mission to unseat every Republican President since they took down Nixon. Every single Republican nominee in my lifetime has been “literally Hitler,” including Bob Dole who actually fought against Hitler. Every Republican President in my life has had multiple scandals that were “bigger than Watergate.” And now that impeachments and indictments are on the table, it is an absolute certainty that every GOP presidential candidate going forward will face multiple nuisance indictments, and every Republican President will be impeached if there is a Democrat-controlled House.

Seconded.

Posted by: lost in space at February 09, 2024 11:06 AM (0hx4U)

32 Joe calls us "magats"....maggots...it's so clever.
Posted by: BignJames at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (AwYPR)
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It's a lefty term, been around for a while. Usually spelled "MAGAts."

Did Joe actually use it in speech?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:06 AM (yjAVs)

33 If you're exhausted just vote Trump one more time. It's much less work than wadding up your panties every day.

Posted by: DaveA at February 09, 2024 11:06 AM (FhXTo)

34
Putin was talking about the US media and how financially expensive it would be for Russia to take them on. Guy seems to keep an eye on the bottom line. Refreshing point of view actually. He did mention the US debt, down to the nearest trillion. That was yesterdays number so I don't know if it's changed yet today.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 09, 2024 11:06 AM (nIvob)

35 It was good knowing you.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon

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I considered "Crystal Dragon and Walks on Water" but decided it would be too directly inflammatory and not complimentary enough to DeSantis.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (WF0+t)

36 He makes great points, but why does Cynical Publius look like Putin?

Posted by: Axeman at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (krQz2)

37 Buck perceives his life to be that of a victim, a life with little joy it hope
Sadz

Posted by: Paul banned at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (1UWtz)

38 Maybe, this time, Trump will not be saddled with a GOPer approved VP? They did it to Reagan and they forced a GOPer VP on Nixon. Deep State looks out for itself, always.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (wBh67)

39 The establishment hated Reagan at the time, too.

And then they took the mantle of his name and ran with it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)
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That was a different time. Back then, the GOP either cared or pretended to care about popularity and approval of its base.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (yjAVs)

40 39 ++++
That was a different time. Back then, the GOP either cared or pretended to care about popularity and approval of its base.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (yjAVs)

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And trying to win an election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (GBKbO)

41 The left has mastered the art of lawfare to the point they're willing to destroy the republic to gain and keep power.

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I don't know if they mastered anything. They just have people willing to use power. The side that is not tethered to an actual moral code is much more willing to just exert power.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (sX1BW)

42 a life with little joy it hope sadz

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Okay, I might put that in the name field

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway at February 09, 2024 11:08 AM (WF0+t)

43 "I'm not looking for a prom date."
~ Stephen Kruiser, PJ Media, 07FEB2024(6:21pm)
Still my most-liked comment of the week.

Posted by: Kathy at February 09, 2024 11:08 AM (LPNLk)

44 "...a divisive, flawed man like Ronald Reagan was leading the Republican Party.

He's an ACTOR!!! Dur Dur...
--The Left

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at February 09, 2024 11:08 AM (Rbu5d)

45 Prolapse Paul!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at February 09, 2024 11:08 AM (R4t5M)

46 I considered "Crystal Dragon and Walks on Water" but decided it would be too directly inflammatory and not complimentary enough to DeSantis.
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Crystal Blue Persuasion?

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:08 AM (wBh67)

47 Babar in the Slammer was a disturbing entry in the series.
Posted by: spindrift at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (MqhXY)

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Babar Visits A Bathhouse is must reading in kindergartens across the country.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:08 AM (uvymP)

48 >>>It hardly needs to be said, but if Ronald Reagan were running for President today, he’d be facing multiple indictments and blue states would be kicking him off the ballot.

That is why, IMO, DeSantis was always the eSTABlishment traitor candidate.

If he really WAS the second coming of Trump, without the baggage, as sold, then he would have been facing the same existential persecution that Trump and the Republic face.

Codswallop.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:08 AM (i24o9)

49 Historically speaking, I think we all know where this seemingly endless lawfare leads - sooner or later, a leader emerges who has enough personal military and political support to simply abolish any court at any level that does not reflect his values. And this isn't always a bad thing; one of the big reasons Bukele has been so successful in El Salvador is that he he has been ruthlessly tossing out any Judges who aren't on his team, and if it requires a squad of soldiers to make them leave, that's fine with him. Sometimes the Judges are replaced, sometimes that court is just abolished.

Endless lawfare is a very unstable, short term situation. It will not last long; things always break one way the other. The reason to oppose it is because a sane person doesn't want to live through the breakdown of civil society; but I don't think that's an option for us anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:08 AM (i9ffA)

50 Funny how so-called Republicans hate conservatives until election time. Then they can’t stop talking about how conservative they are.

My state rep is a tool for the Texas Association of School Boards. He is in the TX HR to assure that public schools only get money and more money. Yet he sent out some propaganda which reached my house yesterday touting his conservative “credentials”. That’s nice, but he’s not fooling me.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 09, 2024 11:09 AM (CNd16)

51 There is only one party with the sole, exclusive right to rule America as it and it alone sees fit.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 09, 2024 11:05 AM (CNd16)
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Yup.

Some say it's the Democrats, but they're wrong.
Some call it the Uniparty, which is much closer.

I tend to just call it the Party. The Party rules all things. It's name is sort of meaningless. You're a Party man, or you aren't.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:09 AM (yjAVs)

52 And everything else, too. He was a celebrity, after all. "Casting couch" allegations would be flooding in, "exposes" of his time in Hollywood would be running on the major nets, etc.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Jane Wyman never said a word against Reagan when he was president. I've heard it said that she may even have voted for him. If your ex-wife can't bad-mouth you, who can?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:09 AM (9yWhg)

53 16...We haven't spoken since.
Posted by: Diogenes at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (W/lyH)

Mutually decided, or he ignores you...?

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at February 09, 2024 11:09 AM (Rbu5d)

54
If Ron DeSantis was serious about a '28 run he might be advised to beg to be VP now and get the inevitable scandals and lying liars out of the way before then. Beach people and self hypnotists be damned.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (nIvob)

55 And trying to win an election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (GBKbO)
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Those are tightly related if not the same things.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (yjAVs)

56 There's a Jean Claude Van Damme movie called Wake of Death. In it, there's a scene where they torture a guy to get info out of him. Real mafia style shit where a 1 inch bore drill is used on the guy's knee.

I want that scene in real life with everyone in the Biden administration sitting in the chair, surrounded by plastic sheet on the floor.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

57 This is not going to stop until the real conservative States call for an Art V convention to stop it.

Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (A5THL)

58 32 Joe calls us "magats"....maggots...it's so clever.
Posted by: BignJames at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (AwYPR)
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It's a lefty term, been around for a while. Usually spelled "MAGAts."

Did Joe actually use it in speech?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:06 AM (yjAVs)

The media sprinkles it around like salt. Probably added by AI into the transcript.

Posted by: Roy at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (z+ik4)

59 they forced a GOPer VP on Nixon

I always thought Agnew was impeachment insurance. That's why they had to get rid of him first.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (7B5FA)

60 26 There is only one party with the sole, exclusive right to rule America as it and it alone sees fit.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 09, 2024 11:05 AM (CNd16)

Unfortunately, it seems only one party is interested in being in charge. Commentators on the right say of Democrats will to power "oh you are not going to like the new rules" but they know we would never use the new rules against them.

Tit for tat. Because we need some tats for our tits.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (IFNME)

61 So is this a pro-Trump post or just a Sigh, welp, here we are type post.

Just want to know how to comment.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 09, 2024 11:03 AM (sX1BW)

According to the post, it's a "I would have preferred DeSantis but the media/Dems would have treated him exactly the same way they're treating Trump so it's silly to claim otherwise" post.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (uvymP)

62 For as long as I've been voting the media always calls Republicans either" stupid" or "evil" or "religious nutcase" or some combination of the three. After a while, it got to be boringly redundant to me even when I was a Democrat.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (Ki//m)

63 The appropriate answer to blue state lawfare is red state lawfare.

For example, why hasn't Arkansas arrested Hillary for the CGI?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 09, 2024 11:11 AM (ibTVg)

64 Funny how so-called Republicans hate conservatives until election time. Then they can’t stop talking about how conservative they are.

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The (R)s are in full attack mode in NC against the black Lt. Gov.

He's a Nazi and hates Jews. No, really. A black Nazi.
That's what the NC Republicans are insisting.

It's neat because it makes my voting decisions much easier when the Nikki Haley bunch starts telling me which Republican candidates are bad.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway at February 09, 2024 11:11 AM (WF0+t)

65 I voted for Trump in 2020 out of desperation. Then he allowed the election to be stolen instead of calling upon the Militia.

Ever since, his positions cement him as a guy who's part of the problem. He helped trannies become ascendant. He's no 2A supporter. He let his J6 supporters rot, condemning them the day after, and then mostly ignoring them for the next few years.

Trump ordered DC locked down and fenced off immediately after J6. Just go listen to his speech on J7.

He's a Northeastern Leftist with their world-view. His cock holster supporters are utterly without reason. They can get stacked on top of the hard commies in the upcoming struggle.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 09, 2024 11:11 AM (Qnubq)

66 ...if Ronald Reagan were running for President today, he’d be facing multiple indictments...

Hollywood types would be coming out of the woodwork to portray him as worse than Harvey Weinstein and Roman Polanski rolled up into one.

Posted by: Bert G at February 09, 2024 11:11 AM (VARTN)

67 Good rant, Buck. And what's really exhausting is not the Conservative Presidents, it's the whinging of the Leftards. Gas 'em all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2024 11:11 AM (tkR6S)

68 Yet he sent out some propaganda which reached my house yesterday touting his conservative “credentials”. That’s nice, but he’s not fooling me.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 09, 2024 11:09 AM (CNd16)

Eat Taco Bell, then wipe your ass with it and send it back, just to remind him everyone knows what he did last summer.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:11 AM (Zz0t1)

69 In order to fully enjoy Buck's thoughtful post, I need to get a definition of "NeverTrump", what is it these days ??

Posted by: runner at February 09, 2024 11:11 AM (V13WU)

70 Left unsaid, while the left and the media vilify every republican, they insist that we ignore democrat scandal. After Clinton got BJs in a closet off the Oval Office, they insisted that we "Move on" (.org). Obama was a freaking saint and anyone that criticized was a Nazi, pining for the return of slavery.

And many of us have pointed out that none of this has had anything to do with Trump, the man. We implicitly understand that the second DeSantis wins the nomination in a little over 4 years, he, too, will be "Literally Hitler" and face lawfare and meritless character assassination.

Chinese baloons aside, just imagine what the press would be saying if [insert any republican name here] had put on that disastrous press conference last night. Yet Biden won't be called out and he certainly won't pay a price. Let's watch. This whole thing has become a farce and insult to intelligence.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at February 09, 2024 11:12 AM (AD14M)

71 And if we're going to compare Reagan to Trump, the Reagan administration made it safe for ALL FUTURE ADMINISTRATIONS to just print money, and spend spend spend.

As long as you were spending on the "right" things, it was totally okie dokie.

In those days, we were fighting the Rooskies (oops, here we go again), and that made it alright. Every subsequent administration has had its own excuses why spending must go up and up and up.

Trump included.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:12 AM (PIFH6)

72 Posted by: Paul banned at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (1UWtz)
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Reading comprehension, motherfucker! DO YOU SPEAK IT?!?!??

Posted by: Jules Winnfield at February 09, 2024 11:12 AM (0gvpA)

73 57 This is not going to stop until the real conservative States call for an Art V convention to stop it.
Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (A5THL)

Right. Because suddenly in an Art V convention Republicans will become ruthless and force their vision on the other side.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:12 AM (IFNME)

74 Name field test

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:12 AM (WF0+t)

75 Sure they always try that nonsense.

Get someone like Kavanaugh and DeSantis up there the farce becomes obvious and they sail through the trials.

With Trump it's all entirely believable, and he hands them ammo against him like candy.

Posted by: NickLevi86 at February 09, 2024 11:12 AM (qmtOV)

76 The Marxists will not give up power, at best they could give in hoping to, like Trump's first term continue to run the country in spite of him. But they have every assumption they might not be able to next time so it will be desperation time.

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2024 11:13 AM (fwDg9)

77 And so it begins...

Proposal is out to "save Social Security" by taking away the 401k/IRA tax deduction from both employees and employers who match.

This is, of course, the first step in the ultimate goal of retirement savings confiscation. There's no political support for outright confiscating 401k accounts. It will be done in dribs and drabs like this. Communism never sleeps.

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:13 AM (bWsRe)

78 Did Joe actually use it in speech?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:06 AM (yjAVs)

I heard him say it in the last week/ten days...I'ma googling.

Posted by: BignJames at February 09, 2024 11:13 AM (AwYPR)

79 George W Bush was literally Hitler.

John McCain was the "maverick" Republican, until he was nominated for President. At which point he became the White Supremacist standing in the way of the historic Lightbringer.

Posted by: DSDSHC, Esq. at February 09, 2024 11:13 AM (+RKTu)

80 Joe calls us "magats"....maggots...it's so clever.

Posted by: BignJames at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (AwYPR)

I've tried a couple of times to get a leftist to verify that it is pronounced " maggots " but they suddenly get very busy with a "Squirrel!" and never answer.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 09, 2024 11:13 AM (nC+QA)

81 My state rep is a tool for the Texas Association of School Boards. He is in the TX HR to assure that public schools only get money and more money. Yet he sent out some propaganda which reached my house yesterday touting his conservative “credentials”. That’s nice, but he’s not fooling me. Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 09, 2024 11:09 AM (CNd16)

OT before 100, but that particular entity is a cancerous sore. The only way to reform it is to start by taking over a majority of local school boards and working from the grassroots. Take a look at their website sometime. It's just a good thing Texas doesn't have collective bargaining for teachers.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 09, 2024 11:13 AM (7B5FA)

82 Polite Republicans, NeverTrump, the East Coast Club-- they all insist the way to win the Super Bowl is if the other team doesn't notice you.

Not by beating the other team, fighting against them, going after them with everything. Just be little meek mice who sneak into the field and maybe you can carry away the Lombardi before the other team notices.

Not to raise ire, but "MAGA without the Trump drama" was the absolute stupidest, most retarded, least reasoned idea for a presidential candidate since Venom Supreme.

But I gotta run--my Ultra Orange MAGA Cult Coat is ready for pickup at the cleaners!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 09, 2024 11:13 AM (cSaKW)

83 The Republican Party's biggest flaw, which they have never addressed, are the people at the top, and the donors, who want their will and policies to be considered over the voters.

These are the people who always know better. It's why you have people in the senate so completely out of touch they would push amnesty and pro illegal immigration proposals as the entire country suffers from its ill effects.

They are never "on your side", they only pretend to be when it works to their own political advantage. Most of them don't really care what the average voter suffers from, they care what will feed their ego and bank accounts.

They are also largely cowards and tv "hero's" who run from every controversy, never take a stand on principle and never truly follow their "convictions" before checking which way the wind blows.

The problem isn't the voters. It isn't that they're misinformed, too "conservative", too dumb, too extreme or simply unfamiliar with the issues. It's that the people they elected who are supposed to represent them, seem to despise them.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 09, 2024 11:14 AM (YmKky)

84 65 I voted for Trump in 2020 out of desperation. Then he allowed the election to be stolen instead of calling upon the Militia.

Americans need to flip their calendars, so to speak, to October 1989. They won’t, because that requires hard work.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 09, 2024 11:14 AM (CNd16)

85 I don't know if they mastered anything. They just have people willing to use power. The side that is not tethered to an actual moral code is much more willing to just exert power.
Posted by: SH (no more socks) at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (sX1BW)

I've said previously, and say again that the Democrat Party may appear powerful, but they are Tito's Yugoslavia a few days before Dear Leader slipped into his final coma. That's why they hang onto Biden so desperately; once he's gone they split into factions that will all fight each other desperately. Of course that doesn't help the Republicans the way you think it would, because the McConnell/Haley faction is still desperate to destroy Trump at all costs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:14 AM (i9ffA)

86 The guy that heads that lawfare group needs to be taken care of.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at February 09, 2024 11:14 AM (Y0ZTQ)

87 Posted by: Paul banned at February 09, 2024 11:07 AM (1UWtz)

Has anyone ever told you that you're kind of a dipshit?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:14 AM (uvymP)

88 5 of the first 7 Republican presidents were shot or assassinated by a Pedocrat. It didn't start with Nixon, it never ficking stopped.

The Pedocrat world-view is the oldest set of beliefs in human history - feudalism, human enslavement, child sacrifice, thuggish brutality.

It's a belief system that should be met with swift, vicious violence in every public setting.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 09, 2024 11:14 AM (Qnubq)

89 It isn't a political issue. It won't be resolved via political means (like "voting" or "elections"). The entire system has been co-opted by the left and they're in control of the institutions, all of them.

Trump can't fix that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 09, 2024 11:15 AM (Q4IgG)

90 With Trump it's all entirely believable, and he hands them ammo against him like candy.
Posted by: NickLevi86

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The crazy part remains how he remains so unscathed. The full force of the feds, the alphabet agencies, made up Crossfire Hurricane stuff to prompt wiretaps and multi-year investigations, Pence and others working to thwart him, etc.

He is arguably the cleanest president this nation has seen in 100 years. It's incredible.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:15 AM (WF0+t)

91 Is it time to consider Let It Burn v Make it Burn again?

I kinda think Make It Burn has already won the argument.
Posted by: blaster

A cleansing fire is overdue. Kick the candle, baby, let's burn this mother down!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 09, 2024 11:15 AM (cRrcX)

92 Chinese baloons aside, just imagine what the press would be saying if [insert any republican name here] had put on that disastrous press conference last night. Yet Biden won't be called out and he certainly won't pay a price. Let's watch. This whole thing has become a farce and insult to intelligence.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at February 09, 2024 11:12 AM (AD14M)

sra blaster was traveling yesterday and didn't know about the news. I told her about the sympathetic elderly gentleman and the press conference. Turned on a Fox show which highlighted all the Biden-y Biden-ness of it. She said "what are the other channels saying" so I turned on CNN. They described Biden giving an "angry response to Republicans" and had about 5 seconds of him clipping some reporter who was not a Republican. And that was it. He was angry.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:15 AM (IFNME)

93 Short and simple:

Fear the candidate the dems don't attack.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 09, 2024 11:15 AM (KbCG3)

94 Hollywood types would be coming out of the woodwork to portray him as worse than Harvey Weinstein and Roman Polanski rolled up into one.
Posted by: Bert G at February 09, 2024 11:11 AM (VARTN)

I'm sure most around here have heard the stories, that Nancy was a goer, before she married Ronnie.

Now, I don't know if there's any truth to that, none of my business, but you can damn well be sure in today's climate, she'd be the one being #metooed. Suddenly all the feminazis would be doing cartwheels, changing their positions on who is to blame for the casting couch.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:15 AM (PIFH6)

95 hiya

And just what do you mean by that, huh? Is that some kind of dog whistle? I bet you're one of... THOSE PEOPLE, aren't you?

Posted by: Oddbob at February 09, 2024 11:15 AM (sNc8Y)

96 Everyone is exhausted with Donald Trump...

how dare you!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ultra MAGA at February 09, 2024 11:15 AM (AR07F)

97 52...Jane Wyman never said a word against Reagan when he was president. I've heard it said that she may even have voted for him. If your ex-wife can't bad-mouth you, who can?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:09 AM (9yWhg)

I don't think Ivanna or Marla have said anything bad about Donald, either. I could be wrong, though.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at February 09, 2024 11:16 AM (Rbu5d)

98 We just need better candidates is the plaintive cry of those who think we live in a better world than we actually do. Our opponents are not reasonable good faith negotiators. They are mean to stay in power.

Posted by: It's on, you can't avoid it with an ingratiating manner at February 09, 2024 11:16 AM (v5S+t)

99 Everyone is exhausted with Donald Trump...

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This is true. We should welcome a return to pre-2016 political times.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:16 AM (WF0+t)

100 I'm disappointed, too, that RDS won't be on the ballot. I've said that before, but there it is. He makes good decisions.

Posted by: JM in Ill from Florida -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at February 09, 2024 11:16 AM (Y05sl)

101 We should pre-emptively indict and incarcerate these democrat would-be jailers. Send them straight to Guantanamo Bay until convicted. Then they can stay there.
This struggle is less about legality and more about doing what’s necessary to survive.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 09, 2024 11:16 AM (jbnUc)

102 That is why, IMO, DeSantis was always the eSTABlishment traitor candidate.

If he really WAS the second coming of Trump, without the baggage, as sold, then he would have been facing the same existential persecution that Trump and the Republic face.

Codswallop.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:08 AM (i24o9)

While that is a possibility, I remain unconvinced. We haven't seen how the media/left BIRM would react if he had a realistic shot at the nomination.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (uvymP)

103 Is it time to consider Let It Burn v Make it Burn again?

I kinda think Make It Burn has already won the argument.

Posted by: blaster

The point of Let It Burn is that it's already burning. It's a question of trying to put it out or redirecting that energy and resources to preserving something to rebuild with.

I think y'all already know where I stand here.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (OUMaO)

104 All of what you said might be true Buck. And I agree with you on that. I am going to preface my remarks with saying that I was an RDS supporter. He's gone, maybe next time. I made it clear I would gladly vote for Trump and I will run to cast my ballot. I worry about the swing/squishy vote. Because we still need them like it or not, it's reality. Trumps personality rubs some people the wrong way. Sometimes he's his own worst enemy. I don't personally care. I am not asking him to babysit my kids or spend a weekend fishing. Some people vote that way sadly. We need those votes, especially with the fraud machine. Reagan was likeable. Trump, likeable to me but not others. I don't think he's going to change so we are where we are. That's why I want them to string PuddingPants along. The task of having Trump elected is a lot easier with that veggie as the opponent. Let's face it, he's not running nor has been running it anyway.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (MGqzM)

105 Buck: You are absolutely correct. Gov. DeSantis has been a good governor for Florida, but why the same people that are prepared to jail/assassinate [real] President Trump would not do the same thing to Gov. DeSantis eludes me.

All of the people complaining about "Trump brings drama (tm)" are at the bargaining stage of grief. They are trying to puzzle-out a way to avoid ACW2; I don't see a way to avoid it, Democrats always get shooty when someone wants to take away their slaves.

The only Republican that might be acceptable to the Democrats is Nikki Haley. She's GOPe all the way: she's comfortable being a stooge for the globabalists, and she dislikes the people that compose the base of the Republican Party.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (pJWtt)

106 Reagan gave the establishment just what they wanted, amnesty.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (eYF7X)

107 I've said previously, and say again that the Democrat Party may appear powerful, but they are Tito's Yugoslavia a few days before Dear Leader slipped into his final coma. That's why they hang onto Biden so desperately; once he's gone they split into factions that will all fight each other desperately. Of course that doesn't help the Republicans the way you think it would, because the McConnell/Haley faction is still desperate to destroy Trump at all costs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:14 AM (i9ffA)

I don't know. I mean NO ONE likes Biden. The Dems used to laugh at him as Obama's VP. There is not a dear leader there, it is not his personality they love, it is the power. So long as they have power, they are going to wield it. No matter whose name is on the marquee.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (IFNME)

108 While that is a possibility, I remain unconvinced. We haven't seen how the media/left BIRM would react if he had a realistic shot at the nomination.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (uvymP)

Fair.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (i24o9)

109 I'm kinda tired of hearing Trump/Reagan comparisons that are always favorable to Trump. When Trump can pull off an election like '80 (489 electoral votes; a little over 50% of the popular vote total) or '84 (525 electoral votes; a little under 60% of the popular vote total), then I'll entertain these comparisons.

Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (pjs7m)

110 I'm not exhausted at all with Trump. I'm exhilarated by him. Finally, we have someone who will fight for us and not back down.

Did some people think if we fought back they would resist? DeSantis not only would have faced the same treatment he would have been destroyed.

If we want our country back we are going to have to fight and get dirty. They aren't going to just had it to us.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2024 11:18 AM (LkLld)

111 I respectfully disagree that they would do this to "every" Republican. Because they haven't. Mostly because they aren't as reckless.

Trump creates a lot of his own drama, I'm tired of pretending he's always the victim. We're usually left with "what about-ism" for why he should get to do stupid things. Like bragging to someone what he's doing is illegal while showing them classified materials. It's just him constantly stepping on a rake.

I think the lawfare against Trump is bullshit and he's being targeted, but no, a different Republican would not find themselves in this same predicament.

Trump also surrounds himself with incompetent people, attorneys included. And that seems to put blood in the water because Democrats know this.

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:18 AM (Nc8VF)

112 57 This is not going to stop until the real conservative States call for an Art V convention to stop it.
Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (A5THL)

I wouldn't mind that, but most supporters of the idea are in denial about what would happen. Most likely possibility - nothing at all would happen, because the same people who run Congress would control it.
2nd most likely possibility - it works, and results in 4 or 5 successor States as regional groups decide to join together and abandon the Union.
3rd possibility - there is no 3rd possibility.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:18 AM (i9ffA)

113 The only Republican that might be acceptable to the Democrats is Nikki Haley. She's GOPe all the way: she's comfortable being a stooge for the globabalists, and she dislikes the people that compose the base of the Republican Party.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (pJWtt)/i]

Nope. That's just them playing rope-a-dope. Remember how much they loved Maverick McCain, until they didn't?

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:18 AM (IFNME)

114 Proposal is out to "save Social Security" by taking away the 401k/IRA tax deduction from both employees and employers who match. ...
Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:13 AM (bWsRe)
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If they do it, this will have one of two effects depending on the individual:
* Disincentivize retirement savings altogether, removing that money from the market or taking out of "retirement" pools.
* Incentivize switching over to Roth portfolios from this point forward, so long as Roths remain available (once Roth is killed off, see point 1).

The problem with monkeying about too much with these structures is that there are tremendous downsides to continued investment. These special-purpose structures *barely* make sense today and changing the tax structure or outright expropriating the investments will result in a market crash. Removing the deduction will crush participation, and result in less liquidity. Expropriation requires a sale, which causes an even greater effect.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:19 AM (yjAVs)

115 I'm kinda tired of hearing Trump/Reagan comparisons that are always favorable to Trump. When Trump can pull off an election like '80 (489 electoral votes; a little over 50% of the popular vote total) or '84 (525 electoral votes; a little under 60% of the popular vote total), then I'll entertain these comparisons.

that will never happen again with any candidate -- we didn't have machine voting with thumb drives of votes back then

Posted by: brak at February 09, 2024 11:19 AM (AR07F)

116 3rd possibility - there is no 3rd possibility.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:18 AM (i9ffA)

Third possibility is ruthless Leftists take over the Art V convention and make things worse.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:19 AM (IFNME)

117 It's a great cartoon, Buck.

Posted by: m at February 09, 2024 11:19 AM (npwPn)

118 I've tried a couple of times to get a leftist to verify that it is pronounced " maggots " but they suddenly get very busy with a "Squirrel!" and never answer.

Pretty sure that started at DU or Koz where they also call Trump "Drumpf" and "tRump" and then giggle to themselves like 10-year-olds making a pee pee joke.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 09, 2024 11:19 AM (sNc8Y)

119 Bill Clinton used the phrase "Make America Great Again."

The left loved it and embraced it.

Now, Trump uses it and it's the sign of Hitler reincarnate.

The left hates America and NEVER wants to see it great ever again.

And they will imprison or kill you for being MAGA. They're the Terminator.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

120 This is true. We should welcome a return to pre-2016 political times.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:16 AM (WF0+t)

When Obama was in power and the tea party was ignored/destroyed?

Posted by: BignJames at February 09, 2024 11:20 AM (AwYPR)

121 The entire system has been co-opted by the left and they're in control of the institutions, all of them.

Trump can't fix that.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 09, 2024 11:15 AM (Q4IgG)

It helps to realize this isn't a Left v. Right thing.

It probably never was. That was a construct they concocted, so the rest of us rubes would fight with each other. Ultimately, it's about crime families. One has power, the other doesn't. Then they go in front of (pretend) voters, and argue how the other side is wrong, so we go to the polls (sure), and elect the other crime family to run things for a while.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:20 AM (PIFH6)

122 I'm kinda tired of hearing Trump/Reagan comparisons that are always favorable to Trump. When Trump can pull off an election like '80 (489 electoral votes; a little over 50% of the popular vote total) or '84 (525 electoral votes; a little under 60% of the popular vote total), then I'll entertain these comparisons.

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Five cities stopped counting simultaneously across multiple time zones to jiggle the numbers. Something like 150M of 130M voters showed up to vote.

We blew by the exits where comparisons to a 1980s election / elections had meaningful numbers and results years ago, but Trump won in a landslide.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:20 AM (WF0+t)

123 109 I'm kinda tired of hearing Trump/Reagan comparisons that are always favorable to Trump. When Trump can pull off an election like '80 (489 electoral votes; a little over 50% of the popular vote total) or '84 (525 electoral votes; a little under 60% of the popular vote total), then I'll entertain these comparisons.
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Please note, we had a functioning media in 1980.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (wBh67)

124 I voted for Trump in 2020 out of desperation. Then he allowed the election to be stolen instead of calling upon the Militia.

Ever since, his positions cement him as a guy who's part of the problem. He helped trannies become ascendant. He's no 2A supporter. He let his J6 supporters rot, condemning them the day after, and then mostly ignoring them for the next few years.

Trump ordered DC locked down and fenced off immediately after J6. Just go listen to his speech on J7.

He's a Northeastern Leftist with their world-view. His cock holster supporters are utterly without reason. They can get stacked on top of the hard commies in the upcoming struggle.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at February 09, 2024 11:11 AM (Qnubq)

That's certainly a take. I assume you're a firm vote for RFK/Haley, then?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (uvymP)

125 I'm kinda tired of hearing Trump/Reagan comparisons that are always favorable to Trump. When Trump can pull off an election like '80 (489 electoral votes; a little over 50% of the popular vote total) or '84 (525 electoral votes; a little under 60% of the popular vote total), then I'll entertain these comparisons.
Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already
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Trump's biggest accomplishment was winning a squeaker election (where he still solidly lost the popular vote) against the most unlikable Democrat in my lifetime, Hillary Clinton.

I'm grateful that we he beat the Hildabeast, but he's not Reagan or even Nixon as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (Nc8VF)

126 Reagan gave the establishment just what they wanted, amnesty.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (eYF7X)

He f*cked up. He trusted them.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (Zz0t1)

127 Joe calls us "magats"....maggots...it's so clever.
Posted by: BignJames at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (AwYPR)
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It's a lefty term, been around for a while. Usually spelled "MAGAts."
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Better than teabaggers...

Posted by: These people haven't been reasonable for a while at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (v5S+t)

128 Democrats along with an assist from some in the Trump camp, started going after DeSantis the minute he started gaining popularity. It was the same playbook where they even started posting rumors about his wife, and trying their hand at lawfare. I have zero bounty they will dust this off for every Republican candidate except their operatives like Nikki.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (YmKky)

129 This is true. We should welcome a return to pre-2016 political times.

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When Obama was in power and the tea party was ignored/destroyed?

Posted by: BignJames

--

This guy gets it.

Peaceful, quiet, cooperative times. None of this Trump drama.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (WF0+t)

130 80 Joe calls us "magats"....maggots...it's so clever.

Posted by: BignJames at February 09, 2024 11:02 AM (AwYPR)

I've tried a couple of times to get a leftist to verify that it is pronounced " maggots " but they suddenly get very busy with a "Squirrel!" and never answer.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at February 09, 2024 11:13 AM (nC+QA)

Maggots are useful at eating and clearing out diseased and dead flesh.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (Rbu5d)

131 I like how Trump is chaos, but no one seems to notice that the Biden show is exhausting. I mean, we are in a shooting war with Iran now! No one bats an eye.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (IFNME)

132 This is not going to stop until the real conservative States call for an Art V convention to stop it.
Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:10 AM (A5THL)

Right. Because suddenly in an Art V convention Republicans will become ruthless and force their vision on the other side.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
Posted by: blaster

I don't trust "conservatives" around the constitution with an eraser.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 09, 2024 11:22 AM (G8h7g)

133 DeSantis wouldn’t have faced near the lawfare Trump has for a simple reason: He’s not a good candidate (no matter how good a governor, his prez campaign showed he’s not good at attracting votes nationally)… so the Dems wouldn’t have to throw much at him to beat him. Oh sure there’d be Nazi slurs but not outright banana republic indictments….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 09, 2024 11:22 AM (1jdMT)

134 >>Please note, we had a functioning media in 1980.

We also had nowhere near the level of cheating in 1980.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2024 11:22 AM (LkLld)

135 I don't think election-day elections in the 80s can compare to mail-in election-season elections of the 2020s.

Posted by: JM in Ill from Florida -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at February 09, 2024 11:22 AM (Y05sl)

136 I don't know. I mean NO ONE likes Biden. The Dems used to laugh at him as Obama's VP. There is not a dear leader there, it is not his personality they love, it is the power. So long as they have power, they are going to wield it. No matter whose name is on the marquee.
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:17 AM (IFNME)

I agree - but there's no agreed upon Leader that can Unite the Clans. Biden could do that *because* he was so old and useless that he wasn't a threat to anyone. Take Moochelle - she has Chicago support, but neither the East Coast nor the West Coast factions want her. Kamala is in because she represents the West Coast / Chinese affiliated Oligarchs, the East Coast dems want somone like Liz Warren or Gretchen Whitmer. None of them want to hand the power over to any of the others.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:22 AM (i9ffA)

137 That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:12 AM (IFNME)

Yes it is. The original constitution writing had one vote per State. There are more Republican Sates than Democrap States,

Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:23 AM (A5THL)

138 Well said.

Its more exhausting dealing with our own fake conservatives than with Democrats.

Posted by: I M Simpleton at February 09, 2024 11:23 AM (cwq7b)

139 I respectfully disagree [blah blah blah].

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:18 AM (Nc8VF)

Sure Jan.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:23 AM (PIFH6)

140 I like how Trump is chaos, but no one seems to notice that the Biden show is exhausting. I mean, we are in a shooting war with Iran now! No one bats an eye.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (IFNME)

And the price of bread has doubled in price in three short years, gas nearly so in my AO.

FFS, people are so easily manipulated.

Trump is exhausting, call the wahmbulance.

As MF above noted, "Trump can't fix that."

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:24 AM (i24o9)

141 Democrats are godless commies, retarded, ignorant, or amoral evildoers.

Take your pick.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 09, 2024 11:24 AM (ufFY8)

142 @vic, Tom Servo -- the Article V convention won't happen for a couple of decades, but structural change is coming, convention or not.

The fiscal collapse will cause a re-ordering of priorities. Best case, the federal government will be forced to devolve to states a big chunk of things that are already being run by the states anyway, except with a do-nothing federal layer on top that provides money and bureaucratic oversight: things like Medicaid, housing, and education. The best way to do that would be a gradual but declining block grant; if blue states want to maintain benefit levels, they can do it on their own taxpayers' backs, and if red states want to cut benefit levels, they can.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 09, 2024 11:24 AM (7B5FA)

143 Get someone like Kavanaugh and DeSantis up there the farce becomes obvious and they sail through the trials.

Posted by: NickLevi86 at February 09, 2024 11:12 AM (qmtOV)

I am constantly amazed by the people who think that NYC/DC juries give one flying fuck about the "farce" or anything other than stick it to the other team.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:24 AM (uvymP)

144 Bongino just hypothesized that Hur's statement that Biden is mentally incompetent, was him flipping off Garland and Biden: "You won't let me indict this obvious criminal, OK country, here is why".

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 09, 2024 11:24 AM (CecP5)

145 Dear media, you are exactly just like Hitler's media.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (J8LnB)

146 [i}Nope. That's just them playing rope-a-dope. Remember how much they loved Maverick McCain, until they didn't?
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:18 AM (IFNME)

I don't disagree. That's why I wrote that Nimarata might be acceptable to the Democrats.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (pJWtt)

147 >>Yes it is. The original constitution writing had one vote per State. There are more Republican Sates than Democrap States,

The left doesn't follow the current Constitution. Even we did have a successful Article 5 what makes you think they would follow new and improved laws?

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (LkLld)

148 The problem with Republicans is they go to DC with the overwhelming desire to be friends and bipartisanship.

Bullshit.

I want you going in like a f*cking Viking and laying waste to everything standing in your way. Period.

I didn't elect you to make friends. I elected you to put heads on spikes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

149 @19

>>But his only real scandal was the tan suit.

As one SNL writer said was the reason they didn't go after Obama: How do you climb a mountain of pure Obsidian?

That's quite an admission whether he intended it as such.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (rc3Z7)

150 RFK/Haley - Funny! I'm convinced that if RFK Jr. started to look like a serious threat to the Dems, team Biden would do to him what LBJ had done to his father. (and for the same reason)

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (i9ffA)

151 Yes it is. The original constitution writing had one vote per State. There are more Republican Sates than Democrap States,
Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:23 AM (A5THL)

There are more Republican States than Democrat, but the Left is more committed to the fight.

And at this point we are way post-Constitutional anyway. It isn't like we could just write some new rules they won't apply the Spirit of Aloha to or something.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (IFNME)

152 I'm kinda tired of hearing Trump/Reagan comparisons that are always favorable to Trump. When Trump can pull off an election like '80 (489 electoral votes; a little over 50% of the popular vote total) or '84 (525 electoral votes; a little under 60% of the popular vote total), then I'll entertain these comparisons.

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If you take 1984 demographics and superimpose it on 2020, Trump got about the same % of the vote as Reagan did.

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (bWsRe)

153 Please note, we had a functioning media in 1980.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (wBh67)

Functioning?

There's really no difference between the corporate media of 1980 and today. The difference is, they've been exposed.

Trump is in large part responsible for that.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (PIFH6)

154 And, of course, the predictable responses: Trump cannot because [insert usual litany of reasons why Trump is never responsible, not even in small part, for the things that befall him]. Fine. But if the game is so rigged that Trump cannot prevail (and neither can anyone else) why do I have to support him? It sounds like y'all are advising me to sit out national elections. Which, again, is fine by me. But nothing about what you are saying provides any incentive to show up on election day. The opposite really.

Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (pjs7m)

155 Media is the pusher.

Outrage is the drug.

The left is a bunch of Outrage Junkies.

And yes I saw them open for someone. Can't remember details.

Anyone?

Posted by: pawn at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (QB+5g)

156 This is, of course, the first step in the ultimate goal of retirement savings confiscation. There's no political support for outright confiscating 401k accounts. It will be done in dribs and drabs like this. Communism never sleeps.

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:13 AM (bWsRe)

Money == security. People with security are harder to control. When staying alive tomorrow depends entirely on the good will of the bureaucracy, you tread real lightly.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (uvymP)

157 Then he allowed the election to be stolen instead of calling upon the Militia.

Ever since, his positions cement him as a guy who's part of the problem. He helped trannies become ascendant. He's no 2A supporter. He let his J6 supporters rot, condemning them the day after, and then mostly ignoring them for the next few years.

Trump ordered DC locked down and fenced off immediately after J6. Just go listen to his speech on J7.

He's a Northeastern Leftist with their world-view.

I really can't argue against any of the above. Add his wonderful Big Parma support and picking the absolute worst cabinets one could imagine. Unfortunately, we are now stuck with him.
Yay Trump!

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (eYF7X)

158 150 RFK/Haley - Funny! I'm convinced that if RFK Jr. started to look like a serious threat to the Dems, team Biden would do to him what LBJ had done to his father. (and for the same reason)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (i9ffA)

They practically did - they kicked him - a Kennedy! - out of the Democrat party.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (IFNME)

159 I respectfully disagree that they would do this to "every" Republican. Because they haven't. Mostly because they aren't as reckless.

Trump creates a lot of his own drama, I'm tired of pretending he's always the victim. We're usually left with "what about-ism" for why he should get to do stupid things. Like bragging to someone what he's doing is illegal while showing them classified materials. It's just him constantly stepping on a rake.

Disagree. There is no reason both cannot be true. They will do this to all Republicans until it blows up in their faces. They they'll reconsider. Trump does make it easier for them, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (CsUN+)

160 The Rubicon indeed was crossed with this garbage junta's indictment of its key political opponent. The United States as a free country is gone. My biggest fear about Trump if re-elected is he does not have an arrest/kill list drawn up and acts upon it, and it is a safe bet that he does not have one or will do so.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 09, 2024 11:27 AM (KSNKu)

161 The left is a bunch of Outrage Junkies.

And yes I saw them open for someone. Can't remember details.

Anyone?
Posted by: pawn at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (QB+5g)

I saw Outrage Junkies open for Porno for Pyros at Arena Stage in 1990.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:27 AM (IFNME)

162 If you take 1984 demographics and superimpose it on 2020, Trump got about the same % of the vote as Reagan did.
Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (bWsRe)

Noted. The problem is that time travel isn't a thing.

Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (pjs7m)

163 Bongino just hypothesized that Hur's statement that Biden is mentally incompetent, was him flipping off Garland and Biden: "You won't let me indict this obvious criminal, OK country, here is why".
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at February 09, 2024 11:24 AM (CecP5)

I didn't even know the guy existed before yesterday, I wouldn't want to assume his motives, but that wouldn't surprise me. Nothing surprises me anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (PIFH6)

164 Get someone like Kavanaugh and DeSantis up there the farce becomes obvious and they sail through the trials.
Posted by: NickLevi86

Christine Blasey Ford.

Posted by: old chick at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (sOete)

165 >>I really can't argue against any of the above.

You should. Much of it is wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (LkLld)

166 123 109 I'm kinda tired of hearing Trump/Reagan comparisons that are always favorable to Trump. When Trump can pull off an election like '80 (489 electoral votes; a little over 50% of the popular vote total) or '84 (525 electoral votes; a little under 60% of the popular vote total), then I'll entertain these comparisons.
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Please note, we had a functioning media in 1980.
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (wBh67)
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The electorate was vastly, vastly different in 1980. Reagan won CA. If there is anyone on this planet that thinks any GOP candidate -- anyone, anywhere, anywhen -- could ever even make it a close race in CA, then that person should sell his or her blood as the strongest drug on the planet. Because he be tripping motherfucking balls!

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (iFTx/)

167 Trump's issue is unforced errors from his mouth and creating enemies he needn't create. That has provide the environment the democrats and DC toadies hope to exploit.

Reagan while never liked by DC either, because he threatened them, understood communication,and nuance and persuasion like no other. He was a policy wonk, a huge anti-communist, and strong believer in the US economy freed from the incompetence of Washington. Reagan also understood how to use the levers of government through his background in politics. and advantage Trump never had.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (GZYu7)

168 Money == security. People with security are harder to control. When staying alive tomorrow depends entirely on the good will of the bureaucracy, you tread real lightly.
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It's much more subtle to steal it through inflation, whilst diluting your obligations to pay back old debts.

Posted by: These people haven't been reasonable for a while at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (v5S+t)

169 The fiscal collapse will cause a re-ordering of priorities. Best case, the federal government will be forced to devolve to states a big chunk of things that are already being run by the states anyway, except with a do-nothing federal layer on top that provides money and bureaucratic oversight"

So perhaps the best possible case for continued unity is that we could transform into another Unholy, UnRoman Empire.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (i9ffA)

170 Add his wonderful Big Parma support

There needed to be a counterweight to Big Mozzarella.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (9yWhg)

171 Five cities stopped counting simultaneously across multiple time zones to jiggle the numbers. Something like 150M of 130M voters showed up to vote.

We blew by the exits where comparisons to a 1980s election / elections had meaningful numbers and results years ago, but Trump won in a landslide.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

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The "stopped counting" thing is over used. States "stopped counting" in the 2016 election as well and those sates went to Trump.

States "stops counting" when it goes into like 3am because there's not enough election monitors that can work 24 hour days. You don't want only a handful of people without supervision handling this. We usually don't focus on it because usually the election is called and we didn't have as many mail-in ballots as we have now. You're not allowed to start counting mail in ballots until a certain time.

Remember Florida in 2000? They were literally counting ballots like a month after Election Day. It was not 24/7 and they had like 1% mail in ballots.

The solution to most of this is get rid of early voting, but train left the station and Republicans let it happen.

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (Nc8VF)

172 Democrats are godless commies, retarded, ignorant, or amoral evildoers.

Take your pick.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at February 09, 2024 11:24 AM (ufFY

Um ... all of the above?

How to categorize a Democrat depends on his/her place within the Donk power-structure.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 09, 2024 11:29 AM (pJWtt)

173 Today I was reminded that Egg McMuffin existed.

Posted by: XTC at February 09, 2024 11:29 AM (sm6Pk)

174 65
You aren’t stacking anyone, faggot.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 09, 2024 11:29 AM (jbnUc)

175 But nothing about what you are saying provides any incentive to show up on election day. The opposite really.
Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already

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That's fine. Do what you think is best for you and your family.

All I know is I want Americans to try to discuss for as long as discussing things might work, and handle things using the law and state legislation until there is absolutely no other choice or solution. Because once the other path is chosen everything will be much worse.

Which is why the left keeps trying to push for the shooting to start.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:29 AM (WF0+t)

176 New York state made a new law specifically to go after Trump, bankrupt him, ruin him.
How is that not a Bill of Attainder?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 09, 2024 11:29 AM (MeG8a)

177 Which, again, is fine by me. But nothing about what you are saying provides any incentive to show up on election day. The opposite really.
Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (pjs7m)

Then don't.

Jeez.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:29 AM (PIFH6)

178 Right. Because suddenly in an Art V convention Republicans will become ruthless and force their vision on the other side.

That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works.
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That is one of the more annoying, "this is how we fix everything" bong hit pronouncements.

Yeah, the state legislature picks the delegates.
The same state legislatures that roll over for belly rubs whenever they see Mr. Fed.
That have produced such a deep bench of actual conservative governors that even us well-informed here can maybe name 3.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 09, 2024 11:29 AM (cSaKW)

179 John McCain was the "maverick" Republican, until he was nominated for President. At which point he became the White Supremacist standing in the way of the historic Lightbringer.
Posted by: DSDSHC, Esq. at February 09, 2024 11:13 AM (+RKTu)

Mitt Romney was a paler, possibly more competent, Obama and then he was a homophobic, misogynistic Nazi.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:29 AM (uvymP)

180 I think the lawfare against Trump is bullshit and he's being targeted, but no, a different Republican would not find themselves in this same predicament.

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:18 AM (Nc8VF)

Any republican who actually tries to make a difference will find themselves in this same predicament.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 09, 2024 11:29 AM (KbCG3)

181 I would think that a new constitution would have some severe penalties for politicians who do not follow it. Have an article in it that said it must be followed verbatim as it is written.

Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (A5THL)

182 The "Trump is exhausting" the MSM is always blathering about thing has always confused and amused me. Nobody is exhausted other that the journalists/talking heads smearing him 24/7 . Is he making them run laps? Hundreds of pushups? Or is it that they are constantly running around in circles with their hair on fire?

Posted by: Ripley at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (JojsZ)

183 They practically did - they kicked him - a Kennedy! - out of the Democrat party.
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (IFNME)

They denied him Secret Service protection and might as well have loaded the gun. I cannot stand RFKJr., but that is an utterly totalitarian thing to do to him.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (KSNKu)

184 Oh - and DeSantis would be attacked mercilessly. Though he has found better ways of repelling them, they would be amped up and he would be our next Hitler to be.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (GZYu7)

185 I don't disagree. That's why I wrote that Nimarata might be acceptable to the Democrats.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (pJWtt)

One of her whale donors is a Democrat, right? Reid somebody?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (tkR6S)

186 162 If you take 1984 demographics and superimpose it on 2020, Trump got about the same % of the vote as Reagan did.
Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (bWsRe)

Noted. The problem is that time travel isn't a thing.
Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (pjs7m)

I didn't say it was. I said you can't compare 1984 with 2020 elections, without taking into account the demographic changes in the ensuing 36 years. It's apples to bananas otherwise.

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (bWsRe)

187 I remember a lot of those Reagan-era kerfuffles. Sad to say, I was an avid reader (yes, a reader as well as a viewer!) of Playboy back then. I subscribed to their view that Everything Conservative and/or Republican Was Bad, and echoed the standard jokes about Reagan.

Now I realize what a goofball I was.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (J2vNu)

188 LA Times went full retard.

"Opinion: Age matters. Which is why Biden's age is his superpower"

http://tiny.cc/fhopwz

Posted by: bonhomme at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (lIio7)

189 George W. Bush's presidency was the most exhausting for his supporters because he chose to NEVER defend himself and,left all of the defense up to us. Trump not only defends himself but protects his supporters - just the opposite of W. W - we later found out - hated his supporters.

Posted by: JT Smith at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (FxdZx)

190 >>There needed to be a counterweight to Big Mozzarella.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

LOL I need to go back to school.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:31 AM (eYF7X)

191 Huh. I think that's the first time I've seen anyone say "there's too much discussion about pausing the voting to cheat."

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:31 AM (WF0+t)

192 So perhaps the best possible case for continued unity is that we could transform into another Unholy, UnRoman Empire. Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (i9ffA)

It's called federalism. Before we centralized everything in Washington, it was the path to prosperity.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 09, 2024 11:31 AM (7B5FA)

193 Oh - and DeSantis would be attacked mercilessly. Though he has found better ways of repelling them, they would be amped up and he would be our next Hitler to be.

Awaits comparison to Napoleon, for height reasons.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2024 11:31 AM (CsUN+)

194 I didn't say it was. I said you can't compare 1984 with 2020 elections, without taking into account the demographic changes in the ensuing 36 years. It's apples to bananas otherwise.
Posted by: Montec

12 million more wetbacks that "vote".

Posted by: rickb223 at February 09, 2024 11:31 AM (G8h7g)

195 182 The "Trump is exhausting" the MSM is always blathering about thing has always confused and amused me. Nobody is exhausted other that the journalists/talking heads smearing him 24/7 . Is he making them run laps? Hundreds of pushups? Or is it that they are constantly running around in circles with their hair on fire?
Posted by: Ripley at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (JojsZ)

It's like how leftists were always complaining that they were afraid to check Twitter in the morning for fear of what Trump said. Easy solution assholes. Don't check Twitter.

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:31 AM (bWsRe)

196 184 Oh - and DeSantis would be attacked mercilessly. Though he has found better ways of repelling them, they would be amped up and he would be our next Hitler to be.
Posted by: Black JEM at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (GZYu7)

DeSantis is already Hitler because he won't say gay and all that.

But he's not "literally" Hitler yet.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:32 AM (IFNME)

197 Which, again, is fine by me. But nothing about what you are saying provides any incentive to show up on election day. The opposite really.
Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (pjs7m)

Good thing you weren't anywhere near power in WWII.

Change your nick to Glum from Gulliver's Travels.

"We'll never make it...."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)

198 One of her whale donors is a Democrat, right? Reid somebody?

Reid Hoffman, one of the co-founders of LinkedIn.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at February 09, 2024 11:32 AM (dZVON)

199 If Trump were to win, who would be willing to work for him in the White House?

Posted by: mr tmz at February 09, 2024 11:32 AM (rJ48h)

200 Any republican who actually tries to make a difference will find themselves in this same predicament.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 09, 2024 11:29 AM (KbCG3)

Well, obviously. If Reagan hadn't adopted the Biden defense during Iran-Contra, they would absolutely pursued him over North's nonsense.

Posted by: Agent of a dead Empire at February 09, 2024 11:32 AM (v8k9s)

201 They left already showed us their strategy against DeathSantis should he be the nominee (and presumably attempt at any higher office): he's a pedo perv who hung around underage high school parties when he was in his 20s. And for sure, they'd drag out some leftwing hag to cry in front of cameras about how he raped or fondled her when she was 15.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 09, 2024 11:32 AM (iFTx/)

202 RFK/Haley - Funny! I'm convinced that if RFK Jr. started to look like a serious threat to the Dems, team Biden would do to him what LBJ had done to his father. (and for the same reason)
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (i9ffA)

Both of them seem to be making themselves irrelevant, entirely on their own.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:32 AM (PIFH6)

203 185 I don't disagree. That's why I wrote that Nimarata might be acceptable to the Democrats.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (pJWtt)

One of her whale donors is a Democrat, right? Reid somebody?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (tkR6S)

She's the warm body opposing Trump that he decided to fund.

If she had actually won the nomination, his funding would've been pulled immediately and gone to some Biden PAC.

Also, he stopped funding her I believe.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 09, 2024 11:32 AM (KbCG3)

204 It's like how leftists were always complaining that they were afraid to check Twitter in the morning for fear of what Trump said. Easy solution assholes. Don't check Twitter.
Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:31 AM (bWsRe)

This. I was at an event where some BBC newsreader literally said she lived in fear of waking up in the morning to whatever Trump had tweeted in the night. That meant she would have to spend all day chasing that.

It said so much more about her than it did Trump.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (IFNME)

205
DeSantis is already Hitler because he won't say gay and all that.

But he's not "literally" Hitler yet.
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:32 AM (IFNME)

Make gay happy again.

Make the rainbow God's promise again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)

206 Trump not only defends himself but protects his supporters - just the opposite of W. W - we later found out - hated his supporters.
Posted by: JT Smith at February 09, 2024 11:30 AM (FxdZx)

Unless you were at the Capitol on Jan 6 and currently rotting in a jail cell.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (YwyqV)

207 134 >>Please note, we had a functioning media in 1980.

We also had nowhere near the level of cheating in 1980.
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And we were still a high trust civilization then, too. Open Borders can really fuck a nation six ways to Sunday.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (e9bwN)

208 Oh - and DeSantis would be attacked mercilessly. Though he has found better ways of repelling them, they would be amped up and he would be our next Hitler to be.

Awaits comparison to Napoleon, for height reasons.
Posted by: Archimedes

Actually, I've read that Napoleon was the 19th-century's version of "Hitler" before the real Hitler came along.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (9yWhg)

209 Reagan while never liked by DC either, because he threatened them, understood communication,and nuance and persuasion like no other. He was a policy wonk, a huge anti-communist, and strong believer in the US economy freed from the incompetence of Washington. Reagan also understood how to use the levers of government through his background in politics. and advantage Trump never had."

The only politician I've seen anywhere who has the Gift of Communication that Reagan had has been Milei of Argentina. Milei is absolutely incredible, one of the few politicians where I am delighted to watch his speeches, translated, simply because of how good they are. Both Reagan and Milei gave/give speeches that sounded like Ted Talks from F. A. Hayek.

If you are too young to have ever heard a live speech by Reagan, especially in the early years, then you have no idea what you missed. Easily the greatest political communicator I have ever seen in my lifetime.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (i9ffA)

210 If Trump were to win, who would be willing to work for him in the White House?
Posted by: mr tm

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It's an interesting thought exercise, isn't it?

Similar to "would we want someone that the establishment would gladly accept into the office"

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (WF0+t)

211 After seeing the treatment of people like Gabbard and Kennedy along with the treatment of people like Trump, this outdoor redhead in her underwear knows that the only candidates who won't be subject to an all-in, all-prongs offensive are candidates approved by the Party, regardless of their specific affiliation.
http://tiny.cc/jhopwz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (yjAVs)

212 If Nikki Haley somehow won the GOP nomination, in an instant she would go from being called 'better than Trump' to 'worse than Trump.'

The Democrat-Media Complex would instantly label Saint Liz Cheney worse than Trump if she won the GOP nomination.

Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (5fDan)

213 If Trump were to win, who would be willing to work for him in the White House?
Posted by: mr tmz

I'm five years from retirement. At what the feral government pays? I'll be there tomorrow.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 09, 2024 11:34 AM (G8h7g)

214 >>Any republican who actually tries to make a difference will find themselves in this same predicament.

This is such an obvious point that anyone who doesn't see this is willfully blind.

We aren't just fighting against the Democrats. We are up against the entrenched bureaucracy made up millions of people who rely on supporters of big government for their livelihood. They don't give a shit about how wonderful you think Ron or anyone else is, if you threaten their job they will seek to destroy you.

Trump is the first president including Reagan who really tried and they threw everything at him. They will at anyone else who tries as well and if you don't see this you don't even understand the problem.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2024 11:34 AM (LkLld)

215 I didn't say it was. I said you can't compare 1984 with 2020 elections, without taking into account the demographic changes in the ensuing 36 years. It's apples to bananas otherwise.

And, again, if Mr. Art of the Deal simply can't get it done and neither can anyone else, then why is it so important that I not only support him but refrain from ever criticizing him? Because that's become the pro-Trump position, as demonstrated every time includes even the mildest snark about the man in a post.

Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already at February 09, 2024 11:34 AM (pjs7m)

216 This. I was at an event where some BBC newsreader literally said she lived in fear of waking up in the morning to whatever Trump had tweeted in the night. That meant she would have to spend all day chasing that.

It said so much more about her than it did Trump.
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (IFNME)

___

I hate this guy for making me hate him!

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:34 AM (bWsRe)

217 Actually, I've read that Napoleon was the 19th-century's version of "Hitler" before the real Hitler came along.

I have no doubt. You'd have to go quite a bit further back to find someone on his level of destructiveness.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2024 11:35 AM (CsUN+)

218 Unless you were at the Capitol on Jan 6 and currently rotting in a jail cell.
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Why do you think Trump, as a former president, could have done anything other than take names in this squeeze play? Is this some talking point from the talking heads?

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:35 AM (e9bwN)

219
I'm convinced that if RFK Jr. started to look like a serious threat to the Dems, team Biden would do to him what LBJ had done to his father. (and for the same reason)

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM

RFK Jr IS a serious threat, which is why - despite incidents that show that he needs Secret Service protection - they deny it.

Evil bastids will do anything to win.

RFK Jr will snitch about 8% away from Biden, putting Joe outside the cheat margin. Couldn't happen to a more deserving POS.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 09, 2024 11:35 AM (nIvob)

220 DeSantis is a much better Governor than campaigner. He can learn, but will.we even have a country in 2028?

And 2030-ish comes the 25% reduction in SS benefits

Posted by: JM in Ill from Florida -- Behold the Manchurian Candidate at February 09, 2024 11:35 AM (Y05sl)

221 166The electorate was vastly, vastly different in 1980. Reagan won CA. If there is anyone on this planet that thinks any GOP candidate -- anyone, anywhere, anywhen -- could ever even make it a close race in CA, then that person should sell his or her blood as the strongest drug on the planet. Because he be tripping motherfucking balls!
Posted by: Elric Blade at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (iFTx/)

I left CA in 1977. I could see the hand writing on the wall.

Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:35 AM (A5THL)

222 ***** But I also remember as a high schooler interested in politics that the 1980 equivalent of NeverTrumpers were appalled by Reagan, which led to John Anderson running as 1980’s version of Evan McMullin. Country Club Republicans were as repulsed by Reagan’s blue collar coalition as NeverTrumpers are with MAGA.*****
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Buck, Thank you.
Too many do not understand the past, have no perception where we are today and allow personal distaste for "manners" to distort their decisions. Therefore perspective becomes more emotional than rational.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2024 11:35 AM (wj3Rl)

223 After seeing the treatment of people like Gabbard and Kennedy along with the treatment of people like Trump, this outdoor redhead in her underwear knows that the only candidates who won't be subject to an all-in, all-prongs offensive are candidates approved by the Party, regardless of their specific affiliation.
http://tiny.cc/jhopwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (yjAVs)

Best. Lede. Yet.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)

224 That was an exhausting read, Buck!

I can't believe it's been over four years that you've been a COB here ... where does the time go?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 09, 2024 11:35 AM (yPYSB)

225 http://tiny.cc/jhopwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (yjAVs)

Garters without stockings?

Just say no.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (IFNME)

226 Nothing Trump said on twitter or otherwise annoyed me, I always found him to be honest and above board and without guile or pretense.

What you saw is what you go and you either liked or you didn't

I liked it and hope we get to see him operate as President again.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (rc3Z7)

227 Sick of hearing Dems talking fondly Reagan. the left hated Reagan as much as Trump and had a huge machine from day one to smear him non-stop. He would l have harassed endlessly and possibly ran out of office if the Deep State had been in place back then.

Posted by: Ripley at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (JojsZ)

228
I left CA in 1977. I could see the hand writing on the wall.
Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:35 AM (A5THL)

That's pretty impressive since I'm told you arrived there in a covered wagon.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (Zz0t1)

229 "being rude and contentious is not who we are"

Unfortunately Wm F Buckley's strategy has put conservatism right where we are today:

defending the policy positions proposed by the Progressives 15 years ago.

this is how you lose with dignity.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (D7oie)

230 "Please note, we had a functioning media in 1980."

Oh, please...stop... you're killing me! (rolls on floor...)
Functioning, yes. They functioned then as now, shoving lie after lie down our unwitting throats.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (MeG8a)

231 >>And, again, if Mr. Art of the Deal simply can't get it done and neither can anyone else, then why is it so important that I not only support him but refrain from ever criticizing him?

It's not important. Don't support him But then don't pretend you are being forced to do so against your will.

Feel free to vote for Joe or whoever they replace him with.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (LkLld)

232 http://tiny.cc/jhopwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (yjAVs)

Ah, Jia Lissa. Not the best photo of her, though.

Posted by: spindrift at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (MqhXY)

233 Actually, I've read that Napoleon was the 19th-century's version of "Hitler" before the real Hitler came along.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (9yWhg)

When you look at how Napoleon actually ran things, he was really quite good for all of the areas he took over. Well, except for Spain, but the British had a hand in that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (i9ffA)

234 if you skip the first hour, this is an interesting interview with Putin

Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (AcWfM)

235 After seeing the treatment of people like Gabbard and Kennedy along with the treatment of people like Trump, this outdoor redhead in her underwear knows that the only candidates who won't be subject to an all-in, all-prongs offensive are candidates approved by the Party, regardless of their specific affiliation.

Repeat. I recognize the underwear.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (CsUN+)

236 If Trump wins and the entire Federal Government quits in protest.

He can pick a couple of departments to staff with the few people who will work for him.

Leave the rest vacant.

Posted by: Just Lily at February 09, 2024 11:37 AM (vivhj)

237 Dunno if anyone is a gamer here, but playing Ghost of Tsushima led to the wife and I talking about Republicans lastnight.

Spoilers** [Mongols enter Tsushima, essentially topple the samurai, only one who stops them is someone who gives up being a straight samurai and does other things to help take them down.]**

If you read the spoiler bit, you know exactly what we were thinking. If you didn't, Republicans blindly going along to be slaughtered by Democrats and never changing tactics... we all know what the ending will be.

Posted by: Brando at February 09, 2024 11:37 AM (GNlVE)

238
I'm not exhausted at all with Trump. I'm exhilarated by him. Finally, we have someone who will fight for us and not back down.

^^^^This. 100%!

It's exciting see someone building us and the country up. Invigorating to see someone keep their promises to the best of their ability.

Instead, of getting all fired up about Obama or Biden destroying America and the Middle/Working classes and Normies like the Democrats do.

Posted by: naturalfake at February 09, 2024 11:37 AM (nFnyb)

239 DeSantis is already Hitler because he won't say gay and all that.

But he's not "literally" Hitler yet.
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:32 AM (IFNME)

It's funny how quickly people seem to have forgotten all that.

And some of the same stalwart conservatives whining about Trump, would be whining about DeSantis "because he's making it all about abortion."

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:37 AM (PIFH6)

240 217 Actually, I've read that Napoleon was the 19th-century's version of "Hitler" before the real Hitler came along.

I have no doubt. You'd have to go quite a bit further back to find someone on his level of destructiveness.
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All the players in the WWII were arguing about how to reach 'the third way.' It is apparent, there is no third way. There is God, King and Country. Pretty simple.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:37 AM (e9bwN)

241 http://tiny.cc/jhopwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (yjAVs)

Very nice.

Come clean, Joe. You prefer the gingers, don't you?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:37 AM (9yWhg)

242 If government as a whole isn't interested in what your guy/girl wants to accomplish does it even matter who's in the Oval Office?

Neither the republicans or the democrats are interested in any sort of reforms. Zero. None. Neither are the millions of bureaucrats in FedGov. Neither is a huge segment of the population.

But, yea... this guy/girl over here ---> yea, they'll change the culture in the capitol city.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 09, 2024 11:37 AM (Q4IgG)

243 And, again, if Mr. Art of the Deal simply can't get it done and neither can anyone else, then why is it so important that I not only support him but refrain from ever criticizing him? Because that's become the pro-Trump position, as demonstrated every time includes even the mildest snark about the man in a post.
Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already at February 09, 2024 11:34 AM (pjs7m)

Ed, you sounded just like ace just then. /Edie McClurg voice

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (IFNME)

244 Easily the greatest political communicator I have ever seen in my lifetime.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (i9ffA)

Agreed. But that being his strength, he, too, got played by the establishment.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (i24o9)

245 willowed, and not completely OT: it seems when Trump came to his golf course in Loudoun (yes, that Loudoun) he could not fly to his own property, but Joe got to tie up the county seat and everything around it with military et al to fly direct to Leesburg's one-horse airport, named after Arthur Godfrey, who used to fly down from NYC on weekends to visit his horse.

anybody posted this yet? it was on our community group fb page; seems Ol Joe didn't just yell at the press yesterday, he flew up the river a bit to a resort a hop/skip/jump from Trump's golf course for a 15-minute chat with the House Dem Issues Caucus.
That's a lot of drugs in one day!

http://tinyurl.com/239af9d2

Posted by: barbarausa at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (enw9G)

246 It's sort of like the argument that "the elections are all rigged" when Trump or someone strongly associated with Trump, loses. And then a different Republican wins the same state in the same election.

We are then told they "let" certain Republicans win and those Republicans are part of the steal. So I guess Democrats decided Tank Abrams that threw hundreds of millions at had to take one for the team in GA.

If Democrats could comfortably rig elections, it would be Cuba. They'd win every office in a landslide.

If they could put every high profile Republican President in jail, they would have already done it. Why is it people like Rand Paul, Greg Abbott, Ron DeSantis, etc don't find themselves with so much legal drama?

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (Nc8VF)

247 170 Add his wonderful Big Parma support

There needed to be a counterweight to Big Mozzarella.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (9yWhg)

Slightly Smaller Gouda is waiting in the wings.

Posted by: Question Authority bumper sticker at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (Rbu5d)

248 Trump is the first president including Reagan who really tried and they threw everything at him. They will at anyone else who tries as well and if you don't see this you don't even understand the problem.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2024 11:34 AM (LkLld)

This is why I get annoyed at the "Trump said p*ssy," stuff.

No, Trump tried to close the border. Trump tried to arrange fair trade deals. Trump tried to snuff out corruption. Trump tried to upend child trafficking. Trump tried to build a functional, expanding middle class. Trump tried to get our "allies" to pay their fair share.

That's the stuff they hated. They knew he'd actually work to make those campaign promises come through. That's why he had to be destroyed.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (KbCG3)

249
Ah, Jia Lissa. Not the best photo of her, though.
Posted by: spindrift at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (MqhXY)

Search reveals I didn't need to add 'nude' to the criteria.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (Zz0t1)

250 >>199 If Trump were to win, who would be willing to work for him in the White House?
Posted by: mr tmz

I'm rested, tanned and ready - Jeffrey Beauregard Sessions

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (eYF7X)

251 238
I'm not exhausted at all with Trump. I'm exhilarated by him. Finally, we have someone who will fight for us and not back down.

^^^^This. 100%!
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Concur.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (e9bwN)

252 This. I was at an event where some BBC newsreader literally said she lived in fear of waking up in the morning to whatever Trump had tweeted in the night. That meant she would have to spend all day chasing that.

It said so much more about her than it did Trump.
Posted by: blaster

It says to me she is more like Trump than she cares to admit, because one of the sneers is Trump stays on Twitter all day and doesn't do anything of value with his time.

Posted by: old chick at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (sOete)

253 Ed, you sounded just like ace just then.

--

hahaha, I initially thought this was a Hot Air reference.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:39 AM (WF0+t)

254 114
‘ outright expropriating the investments will result in a market crash. ’

You think this would stop the democrats from stealing them anyway? They’re the Target looters of politics.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at February 09, 2024 11:39 AM (jbnUc)

255 Trump may be exhausting. But Biden is exhausted. Dude is a three bladed fan with two blades missing. That's why I don't want them to replace Joepedo. The dems are panicking. I think Hur's statements were coordinated with them. Everyone knows he's being held together with duct tape and Flex Seal. He hasn't been running shit for years anyway. They were happy to use great great Grandpa as a meat puppet. But it's become obvious they can't "hide the decline". Our fucked up culture makes POTUS a popularity contest sadly.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 09, 2024 11:39 AM (MGqzM)

256 Make gay happy again.

Make the rainbow God's promise again.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)
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Thankfully it still is. The pride rainbow actually is missing a color - so its no rainbow.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 09, 2024 11:39 AM (GZYu7)

257 Why do you think Trump, as a former president, could have done anything other than take names in this squeeze play? Is this some talking point from the talking heads?
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:35 AM (e9bwN)

Well, if the claim is that he protects his supporters, he’s pretty bad at it.

As for the charge that it’s a “talking point”, no, I really do think it would have been proper for him to at least shed light on the gulag in D.C.

MAYBE even, and this is the crazy part, fund-raise for their defense.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 09, 2024 11:39 AM (YwyqV)

258 And, again, if Mr. Art of the Deal simply can't get it done and neither can anyone else, then why is it so important that I not only support him but refrain from ever criticizing him? Because that's become the pro-Trump position, as demonstrated every time includes even the mildest snark about the man in a post.
Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already at February 09, 2024 11:34 AM (pjs7m)

First off I've criticized Trump about as much as anyone here. So don't pull the "you're a cutlist" bullshit with me.

Second, I don't know why you're debating this. It's simple data analysis. Reagan won 59% in 1984 in an electorate that was something like 85% white. If 2020 had been the same electorate, then Trump would have won a landslide as well. Reagan had the same dismal success with non-white voters as Trump. But with Reagan it didn't matter since non-white voters were a much smaller percent of the electorate. If you can't get why this is important when comparing the two, then I can'g help you.

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:39 AM (bWsRe)

259 232 http://tiny.cc/jhopwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (yjAVs)

Ah, Jia Lissa. Not the best photo of her, though.
Posted by: spindrift at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (MqhXY)
_________

How do you guys know who these girls are? They all look like rando IG "models" or whatever. LOL.

Posted by: Elric Blade at February 09, 2024 11:39 AM (iFTx/)

260 228 That's pretty impressive since I'm told you arrived there in a covered wagon.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (Zz0t1)

LOL, when I left CA I sold my car and bike so I would not have to drive cross country.

Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:40 AM (A5THL)

261 I have decided that paying federal income taxes is not in accordance with East Tennessee's Aloha Tradition.

Sooo...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 09, 2024 11:40 AM (k6uu5)

262 "I was at an event where some BBC newsreader literally said she lived in fear of waking up in the morning to whatever Trump had tweeted in the night. That meant she would have to spend all day chasing that.

It said so much more about her than it did Trump.

Posted by: blaster"

Trump is ruining my love life! I cant even go out to dinner without it being interrupted by a mean tweet

Posted by: Ripley at February 09, 2024 11:40 AM (JojsZ)

263 258 First off I've criticized Trump about as much as anyone here. So don't pull the "you're a cutlist" bullshit with me.

cutlets > cutlist

Posted by: anachronda at February 09, 2024 11:40 AM (v3pYe)

264 I respectfully disagree that they would do this to "every" Republican. Because they haven't. Mostly because they aren't as reckless.

Do you define reckless as failing to start a new war and attempting to close the southern border? Cuz you're right. No prior Republican did those things and both of them bother the uniparty.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:41 AM (uvymP)

265 I have decided that paying federal income taxes is not in accordance with East Tennessee's Aloha Tradition.

Sooo...
Posted by: Hawkpilot at February 09, 2024 11:40 AM (k6uu5)
++++
That's fine. Thankfully, failing to pay your taxes is considered criminal instead of merely a debt. We'll just take everything and throw you in prison.

Posted by: The IRS at February 09, 2024 11:41 AM (yjAVs)

266 They functioned then as now, shoving lie after lie down our unwitting throats.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (MeG8a)

At least they paid lip service to the notions of fairness and impartiality.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:41 AM (i24o9)

267 >>232 http://tiny.cc/jhopwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (yjAVs)

Is she wearing Velcro strips as eyebrows?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:41 AM (eYF7X)

268 Trump may be exhausting. But Biden is exhausted. Dude is a three bladed fan with two blades missing. That's why I don't want them to replace Joepedo.

Concur, but they will anyway.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2024 11:41 AM (CsUN+)

269 236 If Trump wins and the entire Federal Government quits in protest.

He can pick a couple of departments to staff with the few people who will work for him.

Leave the rest vacant.
Posted by: Just Lily at February 09, 2024 11:37 AM (vivhj)

I'm thinking of how all the leftists said Twiitter would obviously collapse after Musk fired 3/4 of its employees.

And how Milei just abolished half of the Argentinian government.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:42 AM (i9ffA)

270 259 232 http://tiny.cc/jhopwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (yjAVs)

Ah, Jia Lissa. Not the best photo of her, though.
Posted by: spindrift at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (MqhXY)
_________

How do you guys know who these girls are? They all look like rando IG "models" or whatever. LOL.

i'm guessing it's that research that people are frequently suggesting there should be more of.

Posted by: anachronda at February 09, 2024 11:42 AM (v3pYe)

271 I'm five years from retirement. At what the feral government pays? I'll be there tomorrow.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 09, 2024 11:34 AM (G8h7g)

I'll bet that there are many here, retired or not, that would jump at the opportunity to work in a Trump Administration. The epaulets and the gold-plated 1911 would be a huge draw.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2024 11:42 AM (tkR6S)

272 ++++
That's fine. Thankfully, failing to pay your taxes is considered criminal instead of merely a debt. We'll just take everything and throw you in prison.
Posted by: The IRS at February 09, 2024 11:41 AM (yjAVs)

As if you have any possibility to not pay taxes. You must not have a job, or are self-employed getting cash 'under the table.'

It's impossible for commonman to avoid paying taxes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)

273 Please note, we had a functioning media in 1980.
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No, it was just less propagandistic.

They sold the public a tall tale on Watergate in the 70s.

Nixon thought he had won the presidency and so he deserved the same control of the deep state apparatus as Kennedy and Johnson--who phone-tapped plenty.

The Deep State had to inform Nixon that he was not the one in control.

And along comes John Dean with a plan to see if his side-piece is actually a hooker.

I'm guessing the way they lured Nixon into the coverup is "It's going to look really bad for your administration".

Nope. Watergate was an op. And the press that Reagan got were deep into spreading that op further and wider.

Reagan was going to "start World War III" by the press of the 80s. I remember being somewhere on election night and one of my peers ranted that how could people elect Reagan when that meant nuclear war??!!

Posted by: Axeman at February 09, 2024 11:42 AM (krQz2)

274 >>That's the stuff they hated. They knew he'd actually work to make those campaign promises come through. That's why he had to be destroyed.

When Ron ran his first campaign for governor as an America First candidate complete with Trump's backing and support he did a tv commercial with his young son using building blocks to "build the wall".

I don't for a second believe the DC blob would have given him a dime to build it and I don't believe he would have built 5 feet of wall let alone 500 miles as Trump did on his own by never giving in to the blob.

Yes, Trump didn't accomplish everything but he did a lot and he never backed down. He's wiser in the ways of DC now and he has a lot more people who know he isn't a Russian spy and wants to do what he said he would do. I expect he will accomplish even more in his 2nd term.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2024 11:43 AM (LkLld)

275 267 >>232 http://tiny.cc/jhopwz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:33 AM (yjAVs)

Is she wearing Velcro strips as eyebrows?

*enjoys his alibi*

Posted by: the FLCL eyebrows guy at February 09, 2024 11:43 AM (v3pYe)

276 Saw Parma & Cutlets open for Sting in '95 at the gorge.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:43 AM (eYF7X)

277 I'm five years from retirement. At what the feral government pays? I'll be there tomorrow.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 09, 2024 11:34 AM (G8h7g)

I'll bet that there are many here, retired or not, that would jump at the opportunity to work in a Trump Administration. The epaulets and the gold-plated 1911 would be a huge draw.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2024 11:42 AM (tkR6S)

I've always wanted to learn to fly helicopters.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:43 AM (i24o9)

278 I'm five years from retirement. At what the feral government pays? I'll be there tomorrow.
Posted by: rickb223 at February 09, 2024 11:34 AM (G8h7g)

I'll bet that there are many here, retired or not, that would jump at the opportunity to work in a Trump Administration. The epaulets and the gold-plated 1911 would be a huge draw.

I'd come out of retirement and work for nothing. Well, the epaulets might be non-negotiable, but otherwise...

Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2024 11:43 AM (CsUN+)

279 Remember Florida in 2000? They were literally counting ballots like a month after Election Day. It was not 24/7 and they had like 1% mail in ballots.

The solution to most of this is get rid of early voting, but train left the station and Republicans let it happen.
Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:28 AM (Nc8VF)

I remember that election. That month spent 'counting' ballots was completely filled with election workers looking for hanging chads.

Is that the point you were trying to make?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at February 09, 2024 11:43 AM (/HDaX)

280
Stop believing what you witnessed with your own eyes.

Trump causes all the drama.

No other candidate would have to deal with the things like Trump because Trump brings it on himself.

Trump can't win.

...

You know, I'm starting to notice a pattern.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:44 AM (WF0+t)

281 The dems are panicking.
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Umm, they went full panic by colluding with the ChiComs to manufacture a virus with 5 spiked proteins and infect the world so the Dems could steal an election. Now we are approaching the culling times.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:44 AM (e9bwN)

282
Reagan was going to "start World War III" by the press of the 80s. I remember being somewhere on election night and one of my peers ranted that how could people elect Reagan when that meant nuclear war??!!
Posted by: Axeman at February 09, 2024 11:42 AM (krQz2)

You asked for it.........

https://youtu.be/j4gfV6Q86KE

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:44 AM (Zz0t1)

283 Bewbs. The true squirrel! Of the H.Q. IS there anything they can't do? From now on I will refer to them as Healing Bewbs.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 09, 2024 11:44 AM (MGqzM)

284 I'll bet that there are many here, retired or not, that would jump at the opportunity to work in a Trump Administration. The epaulets and the gold-plated 1911 would be a huge draw.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2024 11:42 AM (tkR6S)

Don't forget the orange robes.

Posted by: spindrift at February 09, 2024 11:44 AM (MqhXY)

285 I have predicted Biden will not make it past the Democrap convention.

Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:44 AM (A5THL)

286 As if you have any possibility to not pay taxes. You must not have a job, or are self-employed getting cash 'under the table.'

It's impossible for commonman to avoid paying taxes.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:42 AM (Zz0t1)
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Yup. One of many reasons I would much prefer a national sales tax capped at 10%, applying only to new goods and services.

Everyone pays unless you really don't want to and avoid paying by buying only used goods and growing your own food and avoiding the consumption of services.

Not to mention the positive externalities like making the longevity of big-ticket items a much bigger consideration.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at February 09, 2024 11:44 AM (yjAVs)

287 I'm guessing that the IC "experts" Nixon consulted assured him that Dean's surveillance of the Watergate Hotel was going to look "very bad" for Nixon.

Posted by: Axeman at February 09, 2024 11:44 AM (krQz2)

288 I think they can't replace Joe because they'd have to admit they knew all along, but then again they are currently going with the border is more secure than it has ever been, and please give us billions of dollars because of the border emergency Trump caused at the same time, so it isn't like logical consistency is important.

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:45 AM (IFNME)

289 "Make the rainbow God's promise again.
Posted by: Sponge"

The left has ruined rainbows. I am immediately suspicious of anything that has one, especially if it is or kids. Like a simple bookbag or notebook.

Posted by: Ripley at February 09, 2024 11:45 AM (JojsZ)

290 Don Imus, "I'm here to goad you to say something that will destroy your career," Still holds up well now.

Posted by: Hokey Pokey at February 09, 2024 11:45 AM (as3uC)

291 Second, I don't know why you're debating this. It's simple data analysis. Reagan won 59% in 1984 in an electorate that was something like 85% white. If 2020 had been the same electorate, then Trump would have won a landslide as well. Reagan had the same dismal success with non-white voters as Trump. But with Reagan it didn't matter since non-white voters were a much smaller percent of the electorate. If you can't get why this is important when comparing the two, then I can'g help you.
Posted by: Montec
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The bitter irony is, Reagan signed one of the biggest amnesty bills ever. What's funny is the very next election, Hispanics still "punished" Republicans and backed Michael Dukakis in just about the same numbers over HW Bush.

We're told over and over amnesty was some sort of political win for the GOP. Nope.

Had Reagan taken a tough line against illegal immigration, we would have had a much different country.

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:45 AM (Nc8VF)

292 Better than teabaggers...
Posted by: These people haven't been reasonable for a while at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (v5S+t)

I dunno. Teabagger isn't so bad. They never defined who was the teabaggee though.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:45 AM (uvymP)

293 Drug dealers pay sales tax. Which is the argument I most like for replacing income tax with sales tax.

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:46 AM (bWsRe)

294 While that is a possibility, I remain unconvinced. We haven't seen how the media/left BIRM would react if he had a realistic shot at the nomination.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic

You've seen what happens to EVERY nominee. What on God's green Earth makes you think it would be different for anyone else?

Posted by: Brother Tim sez Nick Saban for President! at February 09, 2024 11:46 AM (OUMaO)

295 I'm grateful that we he beat the Hildabeast, but he's not Reagan or even Nixon as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (Nc8VF)

And we are not the same society we were back in 1980 or 1968. Not even close.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at February 09, 2024 11:46 AM (iODuv)

296 I think they can't replace Joe because they'd have to admit they knew all along

That would be no problem at all.

He was fine when he ran, and in the first 3.5 years of his term, but sadly, the weight of the office has dramatically accelerated what was only a minor problem at worst. Joe sacrificed himself for the good of the country.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2024 11:47 AM (CsUN+)

297 I like how Trump is chaos, but no one seems to notice that the Biden show is exhausting. I mean, we are in a shooting war with Iran now! No one bats an eye.
Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:21 AM (IFNME)

Arguably we're in a shooting war with Russia... they just haven't shot back at us yet.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:47 AM (uvymP)

298 I've always wanted to learn to fly helicopters.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:43 AM (i24o9)

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I've always wanted to be a bombardier.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 09, 2024 11:47 AM (yPYSB)

299 If Trump wins and the entire Federal Government quits in protest.

He can pick a couple of departments to staff with the few people who will work for him.

Leave the rest vacant.
Posted by: Just Lily at February 09, 2024 11:37 AM (vivhj)

If Trump wins, they'll fortify the fed gov. These people do not walk away or give in.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 09, 2024 11:47 AM (KbCG3)

300 Every Republican president since Eisenhower has had articles of Impeachment filed against him in Congress.

It is maddening to hear otherwise pragmatic people say “We need someone without the drama” because

All of the “drama” is fake and artificial drummed up by the media. Obviously no candidate will be spared, there is no acceptable candidate. Donny Two Scoops is the only candidate in recent decades who wouldn’t agree to play Designated Failure “That’s Not Who We Are” Theater good cop bad cop routine.

Recall the initial impetus was “Bush vs. Clinton.” That’s right boys and girls - the Uniparty decided to run these same people for the third time.

Posted by: Common Tater at February 09, 2024 11:47 AM (sttDH)

301 Yup. One of many reasons I would much prefer a national sales tax capped at 10%, applying only to new goods and services.

Everyone pays unless you really don't want to and avoid paying by buying only used goods and growing your own food and avoiding the consumption of services.

Not to mention the positive externalities like making the longevity of big-ticket items a much bigger consideration.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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I would prefer such a system, but the reality is, it would just be a new tax along with income taxes.

Remember, an income tax was introduced as just a tax for the .1%, no one else would need to worry about it.

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:48 AM (Nc8VF)

302 Had Reagan taken a tough line against illegal immigration, we would have had a much different country.

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:45 AM (Nc8VF)

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Marginally. The real problem is the 1965 Kennedy immigration act. Illegals just accelerated what was already happening.

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:48 AM (bWsRe)

303 I've always wanted to be a bombardier.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 09, 2024 11:47 AM

You want to be a snowmobile? S/

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 09, 2024 11:48 AM (MGqzM)

304 And we are not the same society we were back in 1980 or 1968. Not even close.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at February 09, 2024 11:46 AM (iODuv)

We aren't even the same society we were in 2008....

Posted by: blaster at February 09, 2024 11:48 AM (IFNME)

305 If Trump wins and the entire Federal Government quits in protest.

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Guys, I'm already voting for him. You can quit selling.

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:48 AM (WF0+t)

306 During Reagan's first term is when the "homeless epidemic" first emerged as an election issue. And at that time our Functioning media reported endlessly that it was all the fault of Reagan. The same Functioning Media later admitted that they made up numbers and statistics out of whole cloth.
Then our Functioning Media tried to blame the AIDS epidemic on Reagan. That actually got some traction. And they had help doing this, from a little known doctor named Fauci.
And these are 2 examples, there are many others.
Spare me this "Functioning Media" nonsense.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 09, 2024 11:48 AM (MeG8a)

307 if you skip the first hour, this is an interesting interview with Putin
Posted by: BlackOrchidZ at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (AcWfM)

It's not unlike Russian literature. If you find yourself losing focus, thinking "that's too many words," you're seeing it from an American set of eyes.

It pays to stay with it, and frankly, I think it was masterful how he tied everything he said in that first hour, to his final message.

Now, whether anyone wants to believe/agree with his message, that's another matter, but he tied it all together.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:48 AM (PIFH6)

308 Apparently, the FBI is claiming that BOTH of Seth Rich’s laptops are relevant to the murder investigation, therefore they need to withhold them ENTIRELY.

Also, the FBI claims that the personal laptop is relevant to the ongoing “Russian hacking” prosecutions (yeah, you just thought the Russian collusion hoax was over!)

Posted by: SMOD at February 09, 2024 11:48 AM (RHGPo)

309 DeSantis wouldn’t have faced near the lawfare Trump has for a simple reason: He’s not a good candidate (no matter how good a governor, his prez campaign showed he’s not good at attracting votes nationally)… so the Dems wouldn’t have to throw much at him to beat him. Oh sure there’d be Nazi slurs but not outright banana republic indictments….
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at February 09, 2024 11:22 AM (1jdMT)

They didn't do the banana republic stuff to Trump... until he won. If DeSantis won, and tried to be what we would consider a good President, all hell would break loose when he tried to run for re-election.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:48 AM (uvymP)

310 I was in high school when Reagan was shot (a large Catholic high school in Milwaukee). I remember kids clapping & cheering when news came over the intercom that Reagan was shot. Only a share of kids were cheering, but it was a significant share and it showed how effectively the Democrats had demonized Reagan.

Posted by: Dave at February 09, 2024 11:49 AM (nLwaa)

311 Flat Tax. For the win.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 09, 2024 11:49 AM (MGqzM)

312 >>I've always wanted to be a bombardier.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 09, 2024 11:47 AM

You want to be a snowmobile? S/
Posted by: Minnfidel

or a commuter jet?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:49 AM (eYF7X)

313 During Reagan's first term is when the "homeless epidemic" first emerged as an election issue.

People experiencing homelessness > unhoused > homeless

Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2024 11:49 AM (CsUN+)

314 When you look at how Napoleon actually ran things, he was really quite good for all of the areas he took over. Well, except for Spain, but the British had a hand in that.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Napoleon made a desert, and called it "peace."

Western civ would have been immensely better off if the Frog Revolution had been strangled in its cradle.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:50 AM (9yWhg)

315 306 During Reagan's first term is when the "homeless epidemic" first emerged

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Homelessness didn't exist pre-1981, disappeared in 1993 and came back with a vengeance in 2001. According to the MSM.

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:50 AM (bWsRe)

316
You want to be a snowmobile? S/
Posted by: Minnfidel

or a commuter jet?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:49 AM (eYF7X)

They made one heck of a 4-wheeler back in the 90's I think......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:50 AM (Zz0t1)

317 He was fine when he ran, and in the first 3.5 years of his term, but sadly, the weight of the office has dramatically accelerated what was only a minor problem at worst. Joe sacrificed himself for the good of the country.
Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2024 11:47 AM

Like Spock in the engine room!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 09, 2024 11:50 AM (MGqzM)

318 305 If Trump wins and the entire Federal Government quits in protest.
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Guys, I'm already voting for him. You can quit selling.
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Snort.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:50 AM (e9bwN)

319 New York state made a new law specifically to go after Trump, bankrupt him, ruin him.
How is that not a Bill of Attainder?
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It's even worse.
It's criminal guilt by civil statute no matter what:
Under the law, if she accuses you of rape a decade plus past and you deny it, it's defamation of her and civil damages.
If she accuses you of rape, and you don't deny it, she wins civil damages for rape.

And there was not one other person in the whole state sued but Trump.

Not even the worst Jim Crow law was that bad

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at February 09, 2024 11:50 AM (cSaKW)

320 311 Flat Tax. For the win.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 09, 2024 11:49 AM (MGqzM)

Missed your chance to sock Steve Forbes.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 09, 2024 11:50 AM (YwyqV)

321 think they can't replace Joe because they'd have to admit they knew all along
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But these aren't the droids you are looking for, you see?

The Democrat party will, if pressed, attempt the Jedi mind trick, because it has tried to do it a number of times before.

Their forte is "messaging". That is, stringing words together to try to make a story and tell you it's the real world--an arena where modern Dems are almost completely incompetent.

Posted by: Axeman at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (krQz2)

322 They made one heck of a 4-wheeler back in the 90's I think......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:50 AM

Still do!

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (MGqzM)

323 The problem with Republicans is they go to DC with the overwhelming desire to be friends and bipartisanship.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

I suspect most of them went there to get PAID, baybee!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (uvymP)

324 Reagan was going to "start World War III" by the press of the 80s. I remember being somewhere on election night and one of my peers ranted that how could people elect Reagan when that meant nuclear war??!!

Posted by: Axeman

I guess I forgot how prevalent that shit was. It was all over 80s pop culture, like the Land of Confusion video.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (hCzfy)

325 I'm not exhausted. I'm pissed. Every new thing they throw at Trump pisses me off more - as it should all of you. The limp wristed among us - go back to "the pipeline" or wherever the GOPe is hiding themselves and crying into their donor money.

Posted by: Isolden at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (dB99g)

326 Flat Tax. For the win.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 09, 2024 11:49 AM (MGqzM)
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9-9-9

Posted by: Zombie Herman Cain at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (krQz2)

327 >>They didn't do the banana republic stuff to Trump... until he won.

Not true. The first part of the whole Russia collusion bullshit started during the campaign. The first victim was Paul Manafort and Hillary's campaign started leaking about the fake hack of the DNC emails during the Democrat convention. They also started spying on his campaign and building the predicate to take out Flynn during the campaign and then during the transition.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (LkLld)

328 They didn't do the banana republic stuff to Trump... until he won.

I can think of no other contest when a sitting President said of the other party's candidate, "at least I'll have been President".

Obama just couldn't help being the smug little prick he is.

Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (CsUN+)

329 If Trump wins and the entire Federal Government quits in protest.

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Guys, I'm already voting for him. You can quit selling.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Yeah. It can only get so erect.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (G8h7g)

330 During Reagan's first term is when the "homeless epidemic" first emerged as an election issue.

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I was too young to really be paying attention, but I'm betting that was also when acceptance of crime and the tolerance of anti-social behavior in some regions began gaining traction.

I think it was someone here who said something really great about it. something like:

"People aren't homeless because they ran out of money. People are homeless because they ran out of relationships."

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (WF0+t)

331
I suspect most of them went there to get PAID, baybee!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (uvymP)

Your point is valid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:52 AM (Zz0t1)

332 I suspect most of them went there to get PAID, baybee!
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (uvymP)

ITYM "LAID, baybee!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:52 AM (i9ffA)

333 310 I was in high school when Reagan was shot (a large Catholic high school in Milwaukee). I remember kids clapping & cheering when news came over the intercom that Reagan was shot. Only a share of kids were cheering, but it was a significant share and it showed how effectively the Democrats had demonized Reagan.
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You were in Yankeeland.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:52 AM (e9bwN)

334 If Trump wins and the entire Federal Government quits in protest.
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They won't though. Good salary, full bennies, pension, can't be fired (unless you don't support The Party sufficiently), and you can spend most of your time on the clock undermining Trump and/or watching pron. Who can beat that?

Posted by: screaming in digital at February 09, 2024 11:52 AM (1eY81)

335 Nixon gave us arguably our greatest political enemy -- modern Chy-na -- and that alone (not to mention giving us the EPA and OSHA) makes him far worse than Trump.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 09, 2024 11:52 AM (yPYSB)

336 When you look at how Napoleon actually ran things, he was really quite good for all of the areas he took over. Well, except for Spain, but the British had a hand in that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (i9ffA)

The Spanish had a lot to do with that too. The only thing keeping Spain together was the money, the Inquisition and the belief that it was actually working.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2024 11:52 AM (D7oie)

337 No, Trump tried to close the border. Trump tried to arrange fair trade deals. Trump tried to snuff out corruption. Trump tried to upend child trafficking. Trump tried to build a functional, expanding middle class. Trump tried to get our "allies" to pay their fair share.

That's the stuff they hated. They knew he'd actually work to make those campaign promises come through. That's why he had to be destroyed.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (KbCG3)
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He did a good job on the border. And he tried to do other things.

He also didn't do a bunch of things - and continues to slide on big things. He is a mixed bagged, much like any other pol. And his execution leaves a bit to be desired, which given the complexity of the federal govt is understandable.

Posted by: Black JEM at February 09, 2024 11:52 AM (GZYu7)

338 311 Flat Tax. For the win.

Posted by: Minnfidel at February 09, 2024 11:49 AM (MGqzM)

And no exemption from paying for people earning less than XX thousand dollars, nor the many other exemptions and credits in the current tax code.

Posted by: Gref at February 09, 2024 11:52 AM (5fDan)

339 Only way I'd support a national sales tax was via constitutional amendment, which would abolish an income tax. Because otherwise you'll end up with both eventually.

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:52 AM (bWsRe)

340 Are we still using "Fun Size Joe has long butt fur" as the GO code?

Posted by: Weasel at February 09, 2024 11:53 AM (JwHpX)

341 Something I would consider in the new constitution would be the prohibition of any political news or videos until the week before an election.

Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:53 AM (A5THL)

342 Flat Tax. For the win.
Posted by: Minnfidel at February 09, 2024 11:49 AM (MGqzM)

Missed your chance to sock Steve Forbes.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric

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It was a great platform.

I just dont think Republican rank and file care much about tax policy anymore.

I hope Trump hits Biden hard on taxes because if the Trump tax cuts arent renewed, its a MASSIVE tax increase for almost everyone.

Again, another dumb move to make the corporate tax cuts permanent but make the personal tax cuts expire. Should have been flipped.

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:53 AM (Nc8VF)

343 Didn't Reagan in the latter part of his term consult a psychic? or was that only Nancy??

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:54 AM (eYF7X)

344 Nixon gave us arguably our greatest political enemy -- modern Chy-na -- and that alone (not to mention giving us the EPA and OSHA) makes him far worse than Trump.
Posted by: ShainS

Agreed. Also, the EPA.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:54 AM (9yWhg)

345 I've always wanted to learn to fly helicopters.
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:43 AM (i24o9)

Much easier to land them when they are mostly empty...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2024 11:54 AM (tkR6S)

346 Again, another dumb move to make the corporate tax cuts permanent but make the personal tax cuts expire. Should have been flipped.
Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:53 AM (Nc8VF)

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LOL, no.
- Chamber of Commerce (which wrote the bill)

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:54 AM (bWsRe)

347 Didn't Reagan in the latter part of his term consult a psychic? or was that only Nancy??
Posted by: Maj. Healey

I think that was just Nancy.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:54 AM (9yWhg)

348 The Spanish had a lot to do with that too. The only thing keeping Spain together was the money, the Inquisition and the belief that it was actually working.

So you're saying it was unexpected?

Posted by: Archimedes at February 09, 2024 11:54 AM (CsUN+)

349 Anyone but Trump I think the Deep State will try and run the administration like they did in Trump's first term.
Trump wins that bet is off and think they know it.

Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2024 11:55 AM (fwDg9)

350 New York state made a new law specifically to go after Trump, bankrupt him, ruin him.
How is that not a Bill of Attainder?
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These are not the droids you are looking for.

But it does occur to me that "Defamation" is the left's new way to fill the pouting gap over No Bills of Attainder.

A nut accused Trump of raping her, without a coherent, substantiable story. Trump calls her a nut, and he's in the hole 83 million because New York, the state of his birth, doesn't like him.

Posted by: Axeman at February 09, 2024 11:55 AM (krQz2)

351 Again, another dumb move to make the corporate tax cuts permanent but make the personal tax cuts expire. Should have been flipped.
Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:53 AM (Nc8VF)

We’re not allowed to have nice things. Also, the congress-critters know who butters their bread.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 09, 2024 11:55 AM (YwyqV)

352 339 Only way I'd support a national sales tax was via constitutional amendment, which would abolish an income tax. Because otherwise you'll end up with both eventually.
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Good point. How many states do we have after CA, IL, NY, NJ, PA, MI, DE, CT, and NV bolt?

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:55 AM (e9bwN)

353 >>Again, another dumb move to make the corporate tax cuts permanent but make the personal tax cuts expire. Should have been flipped.

It wasn't a mistake. It had to be done that way to comply with the Budget Reconciliation rules.

A lot of what you know is wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2024 11:55 AM (LkLld)

354 I guess I forgot how prevalent that shit was. It was all over 80s pop culture, like the Land of Confusion video.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (hCzfy)

It was all because Reagan said that America needed to openly confront the Soviet Union, not just lay back and accept that they were the same as us, wanting only good for their people. He said it was idiotic for us to keep propping them up, and that they need to be challenged. And all Good and Right thinking people said "Oh NO! That means Nuclear War, because the USSR is here forever and cannot be challenged!"

And then suddenly the USSR collapsed in a way that no one except Reagan had seen coming, and they all said "oh never mind, lets not talk about that anymore."

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:55 AM (i9ffA)

355 Yep, culture war is not just a metaphor. The shooting will come sooner or later IMO

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (xcxpd)

356 I agree with the original post, but with a caveat.

Yes, the left will try to destroy any republican, but each time gets worse b/c they have to ratchet up the hate and vitriol.

They work on getting their base to HATE whoever the republican nominee/president is. To do that, each has to be WORSE than the one before, so the hate has to ratchet up to meet how bad it is.

So, GHW Bush was worse than reagan, W was worse than both, then Trump was worse than anyone who came before him. The next will be "even worse" than Trump.

So, yeah, if DeSantis became the nominee, they'd find ways to paint him as worse than Hitler, Trump, Stalin, and whoever else you can think of.

The idea that if we just select a "better" candidate the left/media will be rational is absurd and backed by no evidence.

Posted by: Meanwhile . . . . at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (ky+MF)

357 But if the game is so rigged that Trump cannot prevail (and neither can anyone else) why do I have to support him?
Posted by: Make Me Tired of All the Winning Already at February 09, 2024 11:26 AM (pjs7m)

You don't. There are plenty of black-pilled folks, or folks who want to hasten the collapse. That's a choice. Feel free to follow your heart.

Those of us who support Trump, however, are tired of hearing... in every thread, regardless of the subject... how he's tiring, he has poor judgement, he's blah blah blah.

Your choices now are Biden, Trump, RFK, and "none of the above". State your choice proudly. Just don't be upset when others push back.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (uvymP)

358 He did a good job on the border. And he tried to do other things.

He also didn't do a bunch of things - and continues to slide on big things. He is a mixed bagged, much like any other pol. And his execution leaves a bit to be desired, which given the complexity of the federal govt is understandable.
Posted by: Black JEM at February 09, 2024 11:52 AM (GZYu7)

Yes, but he's the only one he said those things and TRIED to make them happen.

I still remember Don Jr.'s RNC speech when he said they came to DC to try to fix issues and were shocked to realize the people in power don't want them fixed.

Trump was an outsider who upset the unnatural order.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (KbCG3)

359 Nixon was all about Nixon, and as I've said before, fuck Nixon.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (KAi1n)

360 Only a share of kids were cheering, but it was a significant share and it showed how effectively the Democrats had demonized Reagan.
Posted by: Dave

That is one of the saddest comments I'll read today.

Posted by: old chick at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (sOete)

361 Oligarchs don't earn salaries. They earn their money from ownership in companies. So they care much more about corporate tax rates than ordinary income tax rates. That's why the tax bill of 2017 was so heavily focused on corp tax rates and not personal income tax rates.

Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (bWsRe)

362 -------------------
Good point. How many states do we have after CA, IL, NY, NJ, PA, MI, DE, CT, and NV bolt?
Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 11:55 AM (e9bwN)

"50."

- - - - Barack Hussein Owebama

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (Zz0t1)

363 If Democrats could comfortably rig elections, it would be Cuba. They'd win every office in a landslide.

If they could put every high profile Republican President in jail, they would have already done it. Why is it people like Rand Paul, Greg Abbott, Ron DeSantis, etc don't find themselves with so much legal drama?
Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:38 AM (Nc8VF)

You mean it would be Oregon.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (D7oie)

364 LOL. Damn auto-cucumber turned "bombardier" into "bombardier."

WTF, do I have the French version of keyboard?

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (yPYSB)

365 I'm waiting for the "quick hits" version of the Putin interview.

I can't stand listening to translated conversations. Plus I have the attention span of a gnat.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (Q4IgG)

366 time for lunch

Posted by: vic at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (A5THL)

367 Yep, culture war is not just a metaphor. The shooting will come sooner or later IMO
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (xcxpd)

I'm on Team MAE.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)

368 Hockey stick Mann won his case against Mark Steyne yesterday. Pay up $1M.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:57 AM (eYF7X)

369 Reality is that Biden admin is chaos and
Trump adm is vitality
media reports it inverse

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2024 11:57 AM (wj3Rl)

370 I wonder what the press would say if Reagan or his wife stole thousands of FBI files on their opponents?

I wonder what the press would say if Bush I had secretly transferred automatic weapons to Mexico?

I wonder what the press would say if Bush II had turned off verification on his donation website?

I wonder what the press would say if Trump had cheated in the 2020 election?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 09, 2024 11:57 AM (lTGtQ)

371 Apparently, the FBI is claiming that BOTH of Seth Rich’s laptops are relevant to the murder investigation, therefore they need to withhold them ENTIRELY.

Also, the FBI claims that the personal laptop is relevant to the ongoing “Russian hacking” prosecutions (yeah, you just thought the Russian collusion hoax was over!)
Posted by: SMOD at February 09, 2024 11:48 AM (RHGPo)

But then his family goes on teevee, and looking exactly like hostages, claim his murder was totally just a random thing, and you people should stop looking into it, and claiming all these crazy conspiracies about that great and wonderful person, Hillory Clinton, who is totally good and great, and won the 2016 election, which was stolen by Russian facebook posts.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:57 AM (PIFH6)

372 time for lunch
Posted by: vic

What are we having?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:57 AM (9yWhg)

373 I'm on Team MAE.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (xcxpd)

374 And then suddenly the USSR collapsed in a way that no one except Reagan had seen coming, and they all said "oh never mind, lets not talk about that anymore."

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:55 AM (i9ffA)

And the left was so very pro-USSR/Russia, until Hillary sold them uranium and told them that Russia was bad.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (i24o9)

375 "I guess I forgot how prevalent that shit was. It was all over 80s pop culture, like the Land of Confusion video.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor"

Every single thing he said was taken out of context and twisted around if possible. Especially the one where he supposedly said nuclear missiles could be recalled.

He said nothing of the sort, he was talking about nuclear armed submarines. When I saw the original clip, which few bothered to watch, is when I started to realize what conniving liars the left are.

Posted by: Ripley at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (JojsZ)

376 You want to be a snowmobile? S/
Posted by: Minnfidel

or a commuter jet?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:49 AM (eYF7X)

And suck on the Canadian government tit?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (tkR6S)

377 I'm on Team MAE.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:57 AM (Zz0t1)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (xcxpd)

*group hug*

*grabs MAE's ass*

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (i24o9)

378 *blames Sponge*

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (i24o9)

379 Hockey stick Mann won his case against Mark Steyn yesterday. Pay up $1M.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Yeah, that sickens me.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg)

380 It wasn't a mistake. It had to be done that way to comply with the Budget Reconciliation rules.

A lot of what you know is wrong.
Posted by: JackStraw
__

That's just it, there's a cap and they decided to "spend it" on the corporate tax cuts instead of personal tax cuts.

It was sold that way because "corporations need long term stability in the tax code".

But keep thinking Paul Ryan would never do something that benefited his masters. Corporations are people. So we're likely to see a giant tax increase, but Google and Facebook get to keep theirs.

This is why Republicans lose.

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (Nc8VF)

381 *blames Sponge*
Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (i24o9)

Me grabbing nurse's ass is not license for you to go all homo and blame me for it.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:59 AM (Zz0t1)

382 379 Hockey stick Mann won his case against Mark Steyn yesterday. Pay up $1M.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Yeah, that sickens me.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg)

It was a DC Court, I pretty much expected it. Verdict was already written months before the Jury was ever seated.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:59 AM (i9ffA)

383 354 I guess I forgot how prevalent that shit was. It was all over 80s pop culture, like the Land of Confusion video.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at February 09, 2024 11:51 AM (hCzfy)

It was all because Reagan said that America needed to openly confront the Soviet Union, not just lay back and accept that they were the same as us, wanting only good for their people. He said it was idiotic for us to keep propping them up, and that they need to be challenged. And all Good and Right thinking people said "Oh NO! That means Nuclear War, because the USSR is here forever and cannot be challenged!"

And then suddenly the USSR collapsed in a way that no one except Reagan had seen coming, and they all said "oh never mind, lets not talk about that anymore."
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 09, 2024 11:55 AM (i9ffA)

Tom Servo Johnson is right!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo and keep your rifle by your side at February 09, 2024 11:59 AM (xcxpd)

384 Nixon won a 49 state electoral college landslide.
So, naturally, he had to go.
Nothing has changed.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 09, 2024 12:00 PM (MeG8a)

385 I recall that George Bush gave the commencement address at Texas A&M while vice president, and the country had emerged from the depression caused by Carter.

Every person there cheered as he was introduced, except for one group: the students from the recently created school of journalism booed as loudly as they could.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 09, 2024 12:00 PM (lTGtQ)

386
Yeah, that sickens me.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 11:58 AM (9yWhg)

But shouldn't surprise you.

We do not have fair courts anywhere.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 12:00 PM (Zz0t1)

387 Reagan was going to "start World War III" by the press of the 80s. I remember being somewhere on election night and one of my peers ranted that how could people elect Reagan when that meant nuclear war??!!
Posted by: Axeman at February 09, 2024 11:42 AM (krQz2)

It worked against Goldwater, though.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2024 12:00 PM (D7oie)

388 Me grabbing nurse's ass is not license for you to go all homo and blame me for it.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at February 09, 2024 11:59 AM (Zz0t1)

You got a rep.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 12:00 PM (i24o9)

389 I remember kids clapping & cheering when news came over the intercom that Reagan was shot. Only a share of kids were cheering, but it was a significant share and it showed how effectively the Democrats had demonized Reagan.
Posted by: Dave at February 09, 2024 11:49 AM (nLwaa)
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I was in junior high. No cheering, no clapping. Just stunned silence. But this was Cody, Wyoming.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Disgustipated at February 09, 2024 12:00 PM (xPJvm)

390 New York state made a new law specifically to go after Trump, bankrupt him, ruin him.
How is that not a Bill of Attainder?
Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 09, 2024 11:29 AM (MeG8a)

Because Trump. He took away their huge write-offs for real estate. Made them pay their fair share. Bastard.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at February 09, 2024 12:00 PM (uvymP)

391 Anyone but Trump I think the Deep State will try and run the administration like they did in Trump's first term.
Trump wins that bet is off and think they know it.
Posted by: Skip at February 09, 2024 11:55 AM (fwDg9)
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That's what they are really afraid of. Trump goes in this time, knowing the game that is going to be run on him.

He needs to call upon the explicit powers in the Constitution and demand reports in writing, fully documenting ongoing executive processes. Then he needs to investigate all these papers to see who is lying or covering up refusal to carry out executive orders. And then he needs to charge these people of neglect of their Constitutional duty to provide accurate reports to the President, and remove them from the Civil Service.

I can't believe that any of the laws for Civil Service can justify thwarting the implicit assumption of correct reports in the explicit Presidential power to require reports to the Presidency.

But if he makes it clear that any deceit in the preparing of these reports will get you fired, that will put enough fear into the bureaucracy that he should get some accurate reports back.

Posted by: Axeman at February 09, 2024 12:00 PM (krQz2)

392 >>That's just it, there's a cap and they decided to "spend it" on the corporate tax cuts instead of personal tax cuts.

No, wrong again. The rules and the math forced them to go with corporate and not personal. Look it up.

If you put as much energy into actually understanding what happened as you do coming here on every Trump related thread to say how much you hate him you would know a hell of a lot more about what is going on.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 09, 2024 12:00 PM (LkLld)

393 . Damn auto-cucumber turned "bombardier" into "bombardier."

FUCK, IT DID IT AGAIN!

B O M B A D E E R !

Posted by: ShainS -- The Demoralization Will Continue Until Morale Improves at February 09, 2024 12:01 PM (yPYSB)

394 Hockey stick Mann won his case against Mark Steyn yesterday. Pay up $1M.
Posted by: Maj. Healey

Yeah, that sickens me.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Truly sickening.

All you have to do is bring up some conservative in a blue area and these evil jurors are all too happy to find a way to ruin these people.

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 12:01 PM (Nc8VF)

395 Ah, Jia Lissa. Not the best photo of her, though.
Posted by: spindrift at February 09, 2024 11:36 AM (MqhXY)

Huh. She has some, uh, interesting videos. Might need more investigation.......

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at February 09, 2024 12:01 PM (iODuv)

396 383 What is the source of the "_________ Johnson is right!" thing?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 12:01 PM (9yWhg)

397 Honorary Moron and occasional Gun Thread contributor Andrew Branca is going to talk about the HI court decision on his Youtube channel starting now.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 09, 2024 12:01 PM (sNc8Y)

398 368 Hockey stick Mann won his case against Mark Steyne yesterday. Pay up $1M.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at February 09, 2024 11:57 AM (eYF7X)

Gotta love those DC juries.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 09, 2024 12:01 PM (YwyqV)

399 Nixon won a 49 state electoral college landslide.
So, naturally, he had to go.
Nothing has changed.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

-

Yep. IIRC a bunch of the CIA coincidences came out not too long ago. ink

Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 12:01 PM (WF0+t)

400 Oligarchs don't earn salaries.
Posted by: Montec at February 09, 2024 11:56 AM (bWsRe)

I make $174,000 a year. And my husband makes timely stock trades, totally by sheer luck.

Or at least he did, before he got bonked on the head.

Posted by: Nazi Pelousy at February 09, 2024 12:02 PM (PIFH6)

401 Reagan's second term was the first time I could vote (my older sisters used to ask "How was your 'Reagan Youth Brigade' troop meeting today"?)
You are spot on that it wasn't just the press and Dems that crapped on him, but also the GOP establishment of the day.

Posted by: Little Larry Sellers at February 09, 2024 12:02 PM (xaNfJ)

402 Reagan was going to "start World War III" by the press of the 80s. I remember being somewhere on election night and one of my peers ranted that how could people elect Reagan when that meant nuclear war??!!
Posted by: Axeman at February 09, 2024 11:42 AM (krQz2)

It worked against Goldwater, though.
Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2024

***
That ad campaign against Goldwater was only 19 years after Hiroshima, and the Cold War wasn't over by any means. Memories of WWII and of bomb shelters and so forth were fresh in 1964, I'd guess. In '80 and '84, it all seemed a lot farther away.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at February 09, 2024 12:02 PM (J2vNu)

403 What is the source of the "_________ Johnson is right!" thing?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Blazing Saddles

Posted by: screaming in digital at February 09, 2024 12:02 PM (1eY81)

404
But then his family goes on teevee, and looking exactly like hostages, claim his murder was totally just a random thing

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 11:57 AM

You know what the police say when someone is shot in the heart? A crime of passion. You know what they say when someone is shot in the back?

I don't know, but I think it's a tell. Perhaps he was considered a back stabber and that's why the bullets ended up entering there.

There's also something funky about the time he left the bar in the early morning hours and the time he was shot. What the hell was he doing for an hour and a half after closing down a bar?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 09, 2024 12:03 PM (nIvob)

405 Nood.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Disinformation Demon at February 09, 2024 12:03 PM (i24o9)

406 396 383 What is the source of the "_________ Johnson is right!" thing?

a viral meme propagated by blazing saddles johnson.

Posted by: anachronda johnson at February 09, 2024 12:03 PM (v3pYe)

407
Trump is an illustration of the problem with the "Unlimited Left".

They don't like the separation of powers--because they don't like limits--because they have this idea that nothing should stand in the way of the utility of "good ideas".

By the way, this was the founding view of the Presidency, and is the source of some of the more jarring theories Trump's lawyers have on the Presidency to people who don't care about the Constitution (because it's limiting).

*Nothing* was supposed to stand in the way of the President accomplishing the agenda for which he was voted. *That* was how it was meant for Americans to judge whether or not it was a good thing to elect this guy or not so good.

Posted by: Axeman at February 09, 2024 12:04 PM (krQz2)

408 Blazing Saddles
Posted by: screaming in digital

Thanks, SiD. I guess I'll have to watch that all the way through, sometime.

How are you?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at February 09, 2024 12:04 PM (9yWhg)

409 365 I'm waiting for the "quick hits" version of the Putin interview.
---------------------------

It was enlightening.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2024 12:04 PM (wj3Rl)

410 Because Trump. He took away their huge write-offs for real estate. Made them pay their fair share. Bastard.
---------------
Yep. They should have taken a write off.

Posted by: Pudinhead at February 09, 2024 12:04 PM (e9bwN)

411 Yep. IIRC a bunch of the CIA coincidences came out not too long ago. ink
Posted by: Moron Robbie preferred DeSantis campaign staff picks but will vote anyway - Trump/DeSantis 2024 at February 09, 2024 12:01 PM (WF0+t)

I forget which one, but one or the other, Woodward or Bernstein was basically fresh out of the CIA academy.

Posted by: BurtTC at February 09, 2024 12:04 PM (PIFH6)

412 The Putin interview was good, perhaps a translation in print would be easier to consume than a 2 hour video. One point Putin made stuck with me, maybe because it correlates with my long held suspicion, he said, and I paraphrase "It doesn't really matter who is President because they don't really run things."

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 09, 2024 12:04 PM (MeG8a)

413 Has anyone considered how a sales tax is enforced? And if you really want as vicious a government as the US FED GOV to have that much information on what you buy and sell?

(Oh, and whines of, "they already know" means you playing victim, and I am not speaking to victims today, go suffer virtuously and practice for the camps)

Posted by: Kindltot at February 09, 2024 12:05 PM (D7oie)

414 There's also something funky about the time he left the bar in the early morning hours and the time he was shot. What the hell was he doing for an hour and a half after closing down a bar?
Posted by: Divide by Zero at February 09, 2024 12:03 PM (nIvob)

Where I grew up, you’d be at someone’s personal residence still drinking. The after-party, if you will.

But the WI drinking scene isn’t for everyone.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at February 09, 2024 12:05 PM (YwyqV)

415 Putin mentioned Clinton and Bush Jr. in a positive way, he did not mention any other president. Oh, they did talk about Biden but Putin offered no personal observation of him.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2024 12:07 PM (wj3Rl)

416 Jackstraw,

You've really been wrong about everything, so I'll just put this in the same pile.

Republicans could have flipped it, but they strategically decided to put corporations first.

Show me the law that says corporate tax cuts can always be made permanent but personal tax cuts have to sunset.

The budget reconciliation allows 50 votes and they could have "paid" for the personal tax cuts by raising corporate tax cuts at the end of the 10 year window instead. They picked corporations over people.

"To comply with the Byrd Rule, the Finance Committee faced a choice: It could sunset all or some of the tax cuts at the end of ten years, in the same way that the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts were designed to expire in 2011 and 2013, or offset those future tax cuts by raising other taxes or closing additional loopholes."

Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 12:07 PM (Nc8VF)

417 Thanks, SiD. I guess I'll have to watch that all the way through, sometime.

How are you?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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I would highly recommend it. I had seen it many years ago, and re-watched with J awhile back. So many Horde memes suddenly made sense to me. And it's hilarious.

I'm OK, can't complain. SIL got Mom to go to the senior center today. She says she doesn't want to be around old people. I said most will be younger than her (she's 84).

How are you?

Posted by: screaming in digital at February 09, 2024 12:10 PM (1eY81)

418 The Babylon Bee

WASHINGTON, D.C. — After the shock of a Special Counsel report that characterized the President as mentally incompetent to stand trial, Biden has joined the growing chorus of voices in calling for the President to step down. "President Hoover needs to do the right thing. He's in over his head. Can't even do his job right," said Biden to the nurse administering him his daily medications. "Eisenhower is an honorable man, and he needs to do the honorable thing. I was speaking with Emperor Hirohito about it just last Saturwednesday. Blamflibbernuzzit!"

Posted by: SMOD at February 09, 2024 12:13 PM (RHGPo)

419 >>>You've really been wrong about everything, so I'll just put this in the same pile.
Posted by: Blago at February 09, 2024 12:07 PM (Nc8VF)
~~~~~
Did you even bother to read the rest of the article? If you did then you are being dishonest, and if you didn't, you are being ignorant.

"The Finance Committee made the right decision in choosing the economy over optics and politics. The Chairman’s Mark makes the corporate rate cut and the international provisions permanent, but sunsets most the individual provisions in 2025, thus giving the public the impression the Committee favors big business over regular taxpayers.

But this illustrates the paradox of tax reform. As we can see in the chart below, the tax policies that do most for economic growth—such as the corporate rate cut—are the least politically popular, while the tax cuts that do less for growth—child tax credits and individual rate cuts—are the most politically popular."

Below that are charts that show precisely what was done was the correct move.

http://tinyurl.com/295sd7rb

Posted by: IrishEi at February 09, 2024 12:16 PM (ZwV1c)

420 Excellent, Buck.

It's been almost forever. Also see Barry Goldwater's run back in the 60s.

Posted by: L - King of BS can't remember last evening so let it go at February 09, 2024 12:54 PM (1+G96)

421 socked off

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at February 09, 2024 12:55 PM (2yu8s)

422 Excellent Rant, Buck. I graduated HS in '87 and really knew nothing about politics, but remember Ollie North on TV all day, every day for a while and I was like "Who cares if we gave some weapons to an ally."

RdS is breathing a sigh right now if I had to guess. He would face lawfare exactly like Trump and has nowhere near the cash to fight it. I wish we could simply disbar lawyers who violate their oaths and the law.

Posted by: Danimal28 at February 09, 2024 01:23 PM (klw0w)

423 Yup Liberal Republicans hated Reagan. It was supposed to be their time to guide the unwashed flyover country for their own good, but Reagan came in and said we need to have a sane financial policy and a strong anticommunist policy and military and won by a landslide.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 09, 2024 01:23 PM (eoQWY)

424 The establishment hated Reagan at the time, too. And then they took the mantle of his name and ran with it. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, finishing up the Best Pictures at February 09, 2024 11:04 AM (GBKbO)

Landslide reelections have a way of getting historical respect.

That said, like Trump, Reagan was sui generis and a uniquely American story.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 09, 2024 11:06 AM (7B5FA)

But they didn't respect Reagan - they did a tax hike in one of the typical GOPe moves of giving a lot and getting nothing, which caused a recession that they were blamed for by the media. The Dems were so unconfident that nobody ran so Clinton got the nom, and the GOPe losing ushered in the Clinton crime family.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 09, 2024 01:27 PM (eoQWY)

425 Putin mentioned Clinton and Bush Jr. in a positive way, he did not mention any other president. Oh, they did talk about Biden but Putin offered no personal observation of him.
Posted by: Braenyard at February 09, 2024 12:07 PM (wj3Rl)

Almost as soon as Biden got in the US and British sent ships into the Black Sea to violate restricted waters and to watch the electronic signatures of Russian reactions. This was synchronized to a large deployment of Ukrainian troops into a "demiltarized" area of the Donbas separating the breakaway districts to avoid shooting.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 09, 2024 01:31 PM (eoQWY)

426 I played a game when I was at my family home in high school in the '80s. We watched NBC Nightly news anchored by Tom Brokaw. The game was simple and went like this.. before the show started, I would ask myself .. "Will Tom Brokaw lead off by saying something awful about President Reagan tonight?" If the answer ended up being "Yes", then I added 1 to a number of days counter. If "No", I reset the counter. The longest run of leading with awful things, if I can remember that long ago, was something like 60 days.

Posted by: B at February 09, 2024 01:53 PM (XsyPS)

427 President Trump wouldn't let them use Congress to grift away for their Chamber of Commerce masters, so Paul Ryan and the Hill gang threw the House in 2018 DELIBERATELY, by announcing mass retirements and not providing a solitary ounce of pushback against outrageous attacks on the leader of their party.

Posted by: Tracy at February 09, 2024 02:49 PM (e6KBG)

428 Don Lemon
@donlemon
the question is do you think the mccain campaign is creating a political environment that is inciting hate and hate speech? 4:56 PM · Oct 11, 2008

Posted by: SmileyGG at February 09, 2024 02:52 PM (No16X)

429 THANK YOU, BUCK!

So much this.

Posted by: Beverly at February 09, 2024 02:56 PM (Epeb0)

430 Let's face it the Dems hgate America. How long before they are hunted down and beaten to death? No one likes looters, rapists, and scumbags.

Posted by: Sally at February 09, 2024 03:09 PM (EcD5Y)

431 "Everyone is exhausted with Donald Trump, and his legal problems, and his scandals, and his indictments, and his multiple impeachments, etc."

Not everyone, you fucking shitdick faggot. #Trump2024

Posted by: Illest Rater at February 09, 2024 05:30 PM (hYUSs)

432 Elections have consequences.

Stolen "elections" have catastrophic consequences.

Great post, Buck!

Posted by: OBAGeezer at February 09, 2024 09:01 PM (C8ve7)

433 I've also said that the R's could run Jesus of Nazareth for POTUS and, by the last week in October, you would know beyond any doubt that Jesus was an axe murdering pedophile who liked to torture puppies. Then I had to change that because the demokkkrats love pedophiles.
[spit]

Posted by: OBAGeezer at February 09, 2024 09:04 PM (C8ve7)

434 Buck wrote.

"Everyone is exhausted with Donald Trump, and his legal problems, and his scandals, and his indictments, and his multiple impeachments, etc. If only we could get someone else without Trump’s baggage, the media could move on, and we’d finally put Democrats on the defensive about Biden’s record."

No. They won't. They'll just find a reason to indict/whatever.

The only person they might accept is a RINO.

There is a time to push back and a time to give in. This is a time to push back.

Posted by: James Lewis at February 09, 2024 09:40 PM (gpRTs)

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