Wednesday Morning Rant

Calais Jungle

Yesterday, Ace posted an article on the NYC camps for illegal aliens. Two excerpts from the quoted New York Post articles stood out to me for their similarity to other experiences in other countries that were flooded with invading colonists:

"For the past month or so, we will come here, and there'll be one or two tents set up, and we'll ask them to take them down," a city Parks Department enforcement officer told The Post at the site on Sunday.
"But every day when we come back, there's more."

Migrants camping outside the increasingly lawless Randall's Island tent city were spotted selling everything from burgers to blunts on Monday -- as Mayor Eric Adams said the city would be reviewing shelter security following a fatal weekend stabbing.

A persistent camp of illegal aliens with its own informal procedures and businesses, operating in violation of the law and resisting all attempts to put it down. This sounds familiar. This sounds like Calais.

North of Calais, France was a camp referred to as the "Calais Jungle," likely deriving from a Pashto word meaning "forest." It was established because of its proximity to trans-Channel shipping and rail. Colonists from North Africa, Central Asia and the Middle East landed at Calais and entered the Jungle. Those descending on Calais, like those descending on the United States, largely consisted of economic migrants. There were relatively few permanent residents in the camp complex. It was for transients, and most of the occupants were there temporarily as they worked to make their way across the Channel and into Britain. The Jungle long predated the influx of "refugees" that descended on Europe in the wakes of various disasters across the regions, but it quickly became overwhelmed and persistently unmanageable.

It became the topic of countless news stories in Europe and Britain (and still is), and was visited by many foreign journalists like Rebel Media's Lauren Southern. Coverage of the Jungle was never lacking.

The French government consistently tried to quash the Jungle, but it kept returning. A mixture of tents and semi-permanent structures, it grew into thousands of people. As it grew, the squalor of the camp spread. The situation was untenable. The French tried to police the camp with continuous patrol by riot police, but it was largely unable to maintain order. Eventually, the French authorities began to forcibly dismantle the camp in stages and ensure that it stayed disassembled.

First, the French erected temporary shipping container "housing" in the north of the Jungle, then swept the south, destroying the camp with bulldozers. Finally, it evacuated the northern area and dismantled the rest of the Jungle. All the while, various parties - journalists, NGOs, etc. - decried the French action against the Jungle as a human rights abuse. Even progressive establishment food critics got in on extolling the virtues of the Jungle:

The surprise, the great surprise, is the chicken livers. They are perfect. Soft, with that mysterious, renal flavour that is medicinal and industrial, but also like earth and grass and licked copper. The sauce is pungently hot, but still a negligee, not a shroud, for the meat. This was a properly, cleverly crafted and wholly unexpected dish, made with finesse and an elan that defied the surroundings, but at the same time elevated them. Ali smiled with a rare pride.

Despite not knowing what "renal" means, he gave the Jungle dining experience four out of five stars.

Despite the constant accusations that the French were inhumane monsters capitulating to - or even directly representing - right-wing extremists, the French finally did dismantle the camp and disperse the people. Some ended up in other, smaller camps peppered throughout France and other countries. Some lingered in Calais, still trying to make a break for Britain. The problem never went away, it just got distributed under moderately better management when the Jungle was finally excised from Calais.

The Calais Jungle is gone today, and has been gone for years. Given the growth of similar complexes here in the wake of the influx from the nation's south, however, It would be foolish to disregard the experience of Calais.

Posted by: Joe Mannix at 11:00 AM

Comments

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1 Morning, Joe!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2024 11:01 AM (u73oe)

2 not sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:01 AM (GBKbO)

3 Called em

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2024 11:01 AM (u73oe)

4 Started reading. Rookie move.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 11:02 AM (W/lyH)

5 Hunter Biden and his lawyers just crashed the House Oversight Committee meeting. Bold strategy.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 10, 2024 11:02 AM (ZLI7S)

6 Late. But on my way to Hawaii, so who cares!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 10, 2024 11:03 AM (lJJJj)

7 Started reading. Rookie move.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 11:02 AM (W/lyH)
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It catches all of us at one point or another.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:03 AM (Zp1WF)

8 4 Started reading. Rookie move.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 11:02 AM (W/lyH)

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I never learned to read. Reading is for squares.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:03 AM (GBKbO)

9 BREAKING! Brave Sir Hunter bravely ran away. Hunter visits congresses, fleas when there's talk of arresting him there and then.

http://tinyurl.com/4es457vk

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 10, 2024 11:03 AM (FVME7)

10 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 10, 2024 11:03 AM (T4tVD)

11 "Renal" refers to the kidneys.

So "renal flavour" would be a pissy taste?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:04 AM (9yWhg)

12 Chicken livers....I'll cook 'em, but I a'int gonna' eat 'em.

Posted by: BignJames at January 10, 2024 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

13 Good morning everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 11:04 AM (MZ6RK)

14 Hunter visits congresses, fleas

He's got fleas now?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:04 AM (9yWhg)

15 "Renal" refers to the kidneys.

So "renal flavour" would be a pissy taste?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:04 AM (9yWhg)
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Whatever "renal flavour" is, you can be sure it has nothing to do with liver.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:04 AM (Zp1WF)

16 Mmmm rat livers sous vide, en croute, Flambé!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 10, 2024 11:04 AM (U69va)

17 The Calais Jungle is gone today, and has been gone for years.

No, it isn't, unless you can tell me where its former residents are, and the answer is "back home".

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:05 AM (CsUN+)

18 Chicken livers....I'll cook 'em, but I a'int gonna' eat 'em.
Posted by: BignJames

My wife hates them with a passion. Her mom used to serve them when she was growing up.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:05 AM (9yWhg)

19 BREAKING! Brave Sir Hunter bravely ran away. Hunter visits congresses, fleas when there's talk of arresting him there and then.

I know he's vermin and all, but can he really break out in fleas?

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:06 AM (CsUN+)

20 I never learned to read. Reading is for squares.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:03 AM (GBKbO)

Ha!
Says the guy who reads the comments all in little squares and rectangles.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 11:06 AM (W/lyH)

21 14 Hunter visits congresses, fleas

He's got fleas now?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:04 AM (9yWhg)

Visiting congress and leaving with just fleas would be pretty fortunate, no?

Posted by: A dude in MI at January 10, 2024 11:06 AM (/6GbT)

22 fleas when there's

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Damn autocucumber! (Although it wouldn't surprise me if Hunter does have fleas or at least cooties).

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 10, 2024 11:06 AM (FVME7)

23 No, it isn't, unless you can tell me where its former residents are, and the answer is "back home".
Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:05 AM (CsUN+)
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Few are back home, of course. Most got distributed throughout France, Britain and other countries.

But the Jungle itself is gone. It became too untenable, even for the French establishment.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:06 AM (Zp1WF)

24 My wife hates them with a passion. Her mom used to serve them when she was growing up.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Listen to this woman. She is wise.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 11:06 AM (MZ6RK)

25 Ha!
Says the guy who reads the comments all in little squares and rectangles.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 11:06 AM (W/lyH)
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Believe it or not, he's just stupendously lucky. Guesses right every time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:07 AM (Zp1WF)

26 You don't own beer you only renal it!

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:08 AM (2yu8s)

27 Chicken livers are fine.

It's not fine as in "fine cuisine" but rather as "okay ".

Growing up poor, I ate a lot of cheap food. Most of it is fine.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at January 10, 2024 11:08 AM (lJJJj)

28 Some of y'all are young enough to remember the Cuban freeway underpass camps in Florida.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 10, 2024 11:08 AM (GB0ku)

29 So, what am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at January 10, 2024 11:08 AM (U69va)

30 Listen to this woman. She is wise.
Posted by: Tonypete

I've actually never had chicken livers. Love beef liver, though, so I'd probably like chicken livers as well.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:08 AM (9yWhg)

31 The story is out - NY Dems *want* a lot of illegals in their state so it will boost their numbers at reapportionment time. They don't care about any of the other stuff; especially not about their current residents.

Texas and Florida say "Hey NY, we'll make a deal - we'll send you our illegals, you send us all of your people who have skills and good jobs, okay? Yay Diversity!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:08 AM (i9ffA)

32 No, it isn't, unless you can tell me where its former residents are, and the answer is "back home".
Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:05 AM (CsUN+)
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Few are back home, of course. Most got distributed throughout France, Britain and other countries.

But the Jungle itself is gone. It became too untenable, even for the French establishment.

Not trying to be a d*** (well, maybe a little), but it sounds like the illegals won, and now have distributed their infection throughout the land. I'd call that a dispersed jungle.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:09 AM (CsUN+)

33 I never learned to read. Reading is for squares.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:03 AM (GBKbO)

Learning to read is white supremacy.

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:09 AM (CIS44)

34 25 Ha!
Says the guy who reads the comments all in little squares and rectangles.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 10, 2024 11:06 AM (W/lyH)
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Believe it or not, he's just stupendously lucky. Guesses right every time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:07 AM (Zp1WF)

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I pound on the keyboard until the red squiggles go away purple monkey dishwasher.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:09 AM (GBKbO)

35 A mixture of tents and semi-permanent structures, it grew into thousands of people. As it grew, the squalor of the camp spread. The situation was untenable.

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* Colony Ridge, TX has entered the post *

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:09 AM (TqxWE)

36 Growing up poor, I ate a lot of cheap food. Most of it is fine.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

Kaboom?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:09 AM (9yWhg)

37 Growing up poor, I ate a lot of cheap food. Most of it is fine.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

Polenta, beans, rice and potatoes.

And somehow all eight of us kids made it into adulthood.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 11:09 AM (MZ6RK)

38 It was renal housing.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:10 AM (2yu8s)

39 Not trying to be a d*** (well, maybe a little), but it sounds like the illegals won, and now have distributed their infection throughout the land. I'd call that a dispersed jungle.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:09 AM (CsUN+)
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This is one of the lessons of the Calais experience that we will ignore at our peril.

But the "Jungle" is a very specific place, and it is no more. It isn't any camp or any colonial horde, it was a particular place.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:10 AM (Zp1WF)

40 I've actually never had chicken livers. Love beef liver, though, so I'd probably like chicken livers as well.

Mom used to make them occasionally. As if their very presence wasn't bad enough, she really wasn't much of a cook.

*shudders at the recollection*

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:10 AM (CsUN+)

41 I've actually never had chicken livers. Love beef liver, though, so I'd probably like chicken livers as well.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Chicken livers a re great for catching catfish.

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:10 AM (CIS44)

42 But the "Jungle" is a very specific place, and it is no more. It isn't any camp or any colonial horde, it was a particular place.

I concede.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:10 AM (CsUN+)

43 What was the movie? District 51?

Posted by: Titanium White at January 10, 2024 11:11 AM (MNhXM)

44 fleas when there's

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Damn autocucumber! (Although it wouldn't surprise me if Hunter does have fleas or at least cooties).
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 10, 2024

***
A few (say, thirty) flea bombs set off in the White House would be a good idea.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 10, 2024 11:12 AM (J2vNu)

45 * Colony Ridge, TX has entered the post *
Posted by: ShainS
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Yes and totally aided and abetted by a couple of Texas GOP lawmakers who were also deeply involved in trying to oust the AG of Texas via impeachment.

That is the story of the GOP--use power to get sweet money. Even their patron GWB did the same with the Rangers--he got managing director based on who he was, not what his qualifications were and made millions.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:12 AM (tllOr)

46 Read The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray and see this has been going on for decades. Apparently, good governance means importing illegals, crime, and disease. Once the illegal population gets to around ten percent, they will decide how the legal citizens will be allowed to live.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 10, 2024 11:12 AM (sEuZZ)

47 The surprise, the great surprise, is the chicken livers. They are perfect. Soft, with that mysterious, renal flavour that is medicinal and industrial, but also like earth and grass and licked copper.
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For dessert: Excruciatingly Prentious Drivel

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 11:12 AM (XeU6L)

48 What was the movie? District 51?
Posted by: Titanium White at

District 9?

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:12 AM (CIS44)

49
For a real blast of renal flavor....Drink a wine glass of pee!

*che'fs kiss*

Posted by: French Chef at January 10, 2024 11:13 AM (nFnyb)

50 I concede.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:10 AM (CsUN+)
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Meh. I'd like it be not a particular place. These places are all more like the Calais Jungle than they are different, and the consequences on the cities that host them and on the country that contain those cities will be the same.

Calais is *not* the way to handle this. Letting a camp grow into squalorous sprawl until it eventually has to be put down with militarized police and heavy equipment - and then the people aren't even deported back to where they came from, but scattered hither and yon instead - is not a recipe for success.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:13 AM (Zp1WF)

51 A few (say, thirty) flea bombs set off in the White House would be a good idea.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I don't know - there are some places even actual vermin won't go.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 10, 2024 11:13 AM (MZ6RK)

52 If you're still wondering if the Dem PTB have decided to throw Joetato under the bus, there's this from a reporter (addressing Hunter):
REPORTER TO HUNTER: “What kind of crack do you normally smoke Mr. Biden?!”

http://tinyurl.com/shtkr4vz

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:13 AM (CsUN+)

53 For dessert: Excruciatingly Prentious Drivel
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 11:12 AM (XeU6L)
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I think he treats it as a main course.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:13 AM (Zp1WF)

54
Chicken livers are for losers.

Chicken gizzards are for closers!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 10, 2024 11:14 AM (nFnyb)

55 Have you noticed that Adams and the other Mayors and Governors have not ONCE mentioned closing the border to these migrants to stop this nonsense? They're just pissed that Texas is forcing them to have to deal with it.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at January 10, 2024 11:14 AM (AD14M)

56 White House "dental" coke.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:15 AM (2yu8s)

57 Those descending on Calais, like those descending on the United States, largely consisted of economic migrants.

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Is there nothing that The Western Welfare States can't do, like recruit tens of millions -- if not hundreds -- of Free Shit Army invaders?

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:15 AM (TqxWE)

58 9 BREAKING! Brave Sir Hunter bravely ran away. Hunter visits congresses, fleas when there's talk of arresting him there and then.

http://tinyurl.com/4es457vk
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Nancy Mace called for Hunter to be arrested right then and there. Technically under McGrain v. Daugherty, the House Sergeant at Arms has that statutory and constitutional power to arrest and seize a witness and hold them.

Twould be most amusing.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:15 AM (tllOr)

59 Have you noticed that Adams and the other Mayors and Governors have not ONCE mentioned closing the border to these migrants to stop this nonsense? They're just pissed that Texas is forcing them to have to deal with it.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk a

They just want more federal money.

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:15 AM (CIS44)

60 52 If you're still wondering if the Dem PTB have decided to throw Joetato under the bus, there's this from a reporter (addressing Hunter):
REPORTER TO HUNTER: “What kind of crack do you normally smoke Mr. Biden?!”

http://tinyurl.com/shtkr4vz
Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:13 AM (CsUN+)

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Who's the reporter? What newspaper does he work for? These seem to be important questions if you're going to connect the asking of a question to his son (that got ignored) in a chaotic setting to the establishment of the Democrat Party trying to get rid of Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (GBKbO)

61 Not gizzards for wizards??

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (2yu8s)

62 The surprise, the great surprise, is the chicken livers. They are perfect. Soft, with that mysterious, renal flavour that is medicinal and industrial, but also like earth and grass and licked copper.
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For dessert: Excruciatingly Prentious Drivel

I'm getting notes of...that weird smell after you eat asparagus, and also bear whiz. Yes, that's definitely it, bear whiz.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (CsUN+)

63 We were military poor growing up but my father was obsessive compulsive about having a stock of food goods in the house as a result of his own childhood growing up as the youngest of five raised by his widowed mother.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (MNhXM)

64 Read The Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray and see this has been going on for decades.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 10, 2024 11:12 AM (sEuZZ)

I remember reading in the late '70s about large #s of Turks being allowed into W.Germany...still happening, I guess.

Posted by: BignJames at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (AwYPR)

65 Despite not knowing what "renal" means, he gave the Jungle dining experience four out of five stars.

*******

LOL!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (991eG)

66 47 The surprise, the great surprise, is the chicken livers. They are perfect. Soft, with that mysterious, renal flavour that is medicinal and industrial, but also like earth and grass and licked copper.
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For dessert: Excruciatingly Prentious Drivel
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 11:12 AM (XeU6L)

I like chicken liver but I'm not sure about that anymore.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (n2Iei)

67 They just want more federal money.
Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:15 AM (CIS44)
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Bingo. They want the hordes to queer the congressional map and gain power, and money to offset the problems they causes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (Zp1WF)

68
Chicken Livers > Catfish

Posted by: Auspex at January 10, 2024 11:17 AM (j4U/Z)

69 The sauce is pungently hot, but still a negligee, not a shroud, for the meat.

This imbecility is why I can't stand food critics.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024 11:17 AM (Q0kLU)

70 55 Have you noticed that Adams and the other Mayors and Governors have not ONCE mentioned closing the border to these migrants to stop this nonsense? They're just pissed that Texas is forcing them to have to deal with it.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk
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Adams made one chirp about it and got hammered by the White House over it. Forced to grovel. The Cabal wants this for some reason and like in Thelma and Louise is putting the foot to the floor on a number of insane policies.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:17 AM (tllOr)

71 For a real blast of renal flavor....Drink a wine glass of pee!
*che'fs kiss*
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He likes it. He was drinking his even before we ran out of water.

Posted by: Baldrick at January 10, 2024 11:17 AM (2yu8s)

72 Not gizzards for wizards??
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (2yu8s)

Well...wizards can eat gizzards too.

But, mostly they're for closers.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 10, 2024 11:18 AM (nFnyb)

73 This imbecility is why I can't stand food critics.
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If you had a .45 you could kill them.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:18 AM (LVNnd)

74 Have you noticed that Adams and the other Mayors and Governors have not ONCE mentioned closing the border to these migrants to stop this nonsense? They're just pissed that Texas is forcing them to have to deal with it.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk

The DOJ is actively pursuing a legal option to force Texas and other red states to keep the illegals. They are hoping to spread disease and crime in the states where they don't consider the residents to be human.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 10, 2024 11:18 AM (sEuZZ)

75 But, does this "Jungle" have a welcome sign?

Posted by: Guns And Roses at January 10, 2024 11:18 AM (Q4IgG)

76 Who's the reporter? What newspaper does he work for? These seem to be important questions if you're going to connect the asking of a question to his son (that got ignored) in a chaotic setting to the establishment of the Democrat Party trying to get rid of Biden.

He's above reproach.
Benny Johnson is an American political commentator and YouTuber. He was a staff writer at BuzzFeed until he was fired following revelations that many of his published articles were plagiarized. Johnson later worked at various conservative outlets.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:18 AM (CsUN+)

77 Have you noticed that Adams and the other Mayors and Governors have not ONCE mentioned closing the border to these migrants to stop this nonsense? They're just pissed that Texas is forcing them to have to deal with it.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk a

They just want more federal money.
Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:15 AM (CIS44)

And the MSM never report that the amount of illegals sent by Texas to these sanctuary cities is but a very small percentage of the cities illegal immigrant numbers.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 10, 2024 11:18 AM (MNhXM)

78 I remember reading in the late '70s about large #s of Turks being allowed into W.Germany...still happening, I guess.
Posted by: BignJames

When I was stationed in Turkey in '91-'92, a lot of young Turks who had been born in Germany were returning. They spoke German better than they spoke Turkish.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:19 AM (9yWhg)

79
I'm getting notes of...that weird smell after you eat asparagus, and also bear whiz. Yes, that's definitely it, bear whiz.
Posted by: Archimedes
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Overtones of scat in the finish.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 11:19 AM (XeU6L)

80 Bingo. They want the hordes to queer the congressional map and gain power, and money to offset the problems they causes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Won't happen until next census. Reallocation of seats holds until 2032 elections for Congress.

This is something else as if they are being brought here on purpose. Even the CoC is more concerned with H1B's than a hodgepodge masses brought here to be on welfare.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:19 AM (tllOr)

81 And the MSM never report that the amount of illegals sent by Texas to these sanctuary cities is but a very small percentage of the cities illegal immigrant numbers.
Posted by: Titanium White at

And a small percentage of what comes across the border

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:19 AM (CIS44)

82 This imbecility is why I can't stand food critics.

Oh do try one soaked in Carolina Reaper sauce.
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Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024 11:19 AM (n2Iei)

83 55 Have you noticed that Adams and the other Mayors and Governors have not ONCE mentioned closing the border to these migrants to stop this nonsense? They're just pissed that Texas is forcing them to have to deal with it.
Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at January 10, 2024 11:14 AM (AD14M)

Refer to the Supreme Court decision a few years ago, Arizona vs Obama Administration. A State does not have the power to close its international borders, unless it is first asked to do so by the Federal Government. Ports of Entry are under Federal Administration, not State.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:19 AM (i9ffA)

84 Have you noticed that Adams and the other Mayors and Governors have not ONCE mentioned closing the border to these migrants to stop this nonsense? They're just pissed that Texas is forcing them to have to deal with it.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at January 10, 2024 11:14 AM (AD14M)

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"These are not the borders that you are looking for ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:19 AM (TqxWE)

85 We might be living in Camp of the Saintd, just in slow motion. We will surely see 5 million more illegals this year, and if the Marxists don't get stopped next year and the year after.

Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2024 11:19 AM (fwDg9)

86 Growing up poor, I ate a lot of cheap food. Most of it is fine.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

Kaboom?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:09 AM (9yWhg)

With a Val-U-Rite chaser.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024 11:19 AM (Q0kLU)

87 This is something else as if they are being brought here on purpose. Even the CoC is more concerned with H1B's than a hodgepodge masses brought here to be on welfare.
Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:19 AM (tllOr)
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They like the underclass. And they like those uppity Americans being brought to heel.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:19 AM (Zp1WF)

88 But, mostly they're for closers.
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Okay, I'm just a hoser.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:20 AM (2yu8s)

89 74 The DOJ is actively pursuing a legal option to force Texas and other red states to keep the illegals. They are hoping to spread disease and crime in the states where they don't consider the residents to be human.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 10, 2024 11:18 AM (sEuZZ)

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I don't think there's a unified plan on what to do with the incoming residents. All they're unified on is "bring 'em all in." Outside of that, it's trying to get them to blue states to increase their numbers or sending them to red states to make them suffer or just forgetting about them and knowing that they'll never go after the ones who are making it happen.

It's a cabal, not a unified force.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:20 AM (GBKbO)

90 We were military poor growing up but my father was obsessive compulsive about having a stock of food goods in the house as a result of his own childhood growing up as the youngest of five raised by his widowed mother.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (MNhXM)

I've heard childhood hunger is never forgotten by those that experience it.

Posted by: BignJames at January 10, 2024 11:20 AM (AwYPR)

91 Hmmm....

I don't normally associate "earth," "grass," and "copper" as particularly tasty flavors.

They can smell nice, I suppose. Just not particularly easy on my palate.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 10, 2024 11:20 AM (7fElN)

92 If Biden wins, in 5 years, we'll be escaping to these migrant camps and communities (like Plum Grove, TX) just to get a taste of freedom a la Demolition Man.

Safety, as offered by the left, is slavery.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 10, 2024 11:20 AM (iK+0P)

93 But, does this "Jungle" have a welcome sign?
Posted by: Guns And Roses
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'Watch Out For That Tree"

Posted by: George at January 10, 2024 11:20 AM (XeU6L)

94 Very good rant.

I suspect we're seeing some very troubling undocumented, illegal immigration placement so that the Democrats (and RINOs) can gain traction getting an Executive Order (vs. a bill to which they'd be attached for future elections) with specific paths that would allow asylum-seekers & certain* undocumented immigrants to work legally, and for some undocumented immigrants to apply for permanent residency.

See, for ex: The Hill, "103 House Democrats join calls for Biden to open up the immigration playbook," by Rafael Bernal, 09/11/23

In part, “Allowing earlier access to work permits would decrease the pressure on states, cities, localities, and other community groups and provide asylum seekers with the opportunity to live more independent lives, find legal representation, and increase economic growth,” wrote the lawmakers."
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(*Like federal government hiring practices, it appears "name selection" will become common for certain employer visas programs. And don't forget the DACAs & Dreamers, still on the back burner.)
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In the end, it's fancier DEI, CRT & keeping the pols' towns nicest.

Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear. They only have to outrun us - for now at January 10, 2024 11:21 AM (GshMh)

95 If you had a .45 you could kill them.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:18 AM (LVNnd)

I don't have any guns. RMBS is supposed to take me to the range one of these days and get me started.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024 11:21 AM (Q0kLU)

96
Morning, all

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 10, 2024 11:21 AM (87qwM)

97 I realize now you were talking about Adams asking the Feds to close the borders; yeah all Adams wants is a "Stay in Texas" rule, not an end to immigration.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:21 AM (i9ffA)

98 A French politician, Eric Benson, explained that, "France is neither a people, nor a language, or a territory, nor a religion; it is a conglomerate of peoples who want to live together."

Posted by: Oglebay at January 10, 2024 11:21 AM (ogTiX)

99 If Biden wins, in 5 years, we'll be escaping to these migrant camps and communities (like Plum Grove, TX) just to get a taste of freedom a la Demolition Man.

Safety, as offered by the left, is slavery.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice -

Im not gonna use the 3 shells.

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:21 AM (CIS44)

100 89 74 The DOJ is actively pursuing a legal option to force Texas and other red states to keep the illegals.
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Obama's reconstruction marches on.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:21 AM (LVNnd)

101
Question: Would it be better to have the country run by a crime cartel, or is that who's running it now?

Posted by: Auspex at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (j4U/Z)

102 If I recall my Longest Day correctly, Erich Marcks expected the invasion in Calais too ...

Posted by: spindrift at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (AA8bA)

103 Chicken livers can be great, as long as they are cleaned properly and not overcooked.

And chopped chicken livers made by my grandmother were a culinary delight!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (gSZYf)

104 98 A French politician, Eric Benson, explained that, "France is neither a people, nor a language, or a territory, nor a religion; it is a conglomerate of peoples who want to live together."

Posted by: Oglebay at January 10, 2024 11:21 AM (ogTiX)

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The idea that France doesn't have a culture, coming from a Frenchman, is so dumb. You'd have to be maleducated to an extreme to think that.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (GBKbO)

105
Chicken Livers > Catfish

Posted by: Auspex at January 10, 2024 11:17 AM (j4U/Z)

Welp, you can't argue taste but you're wrong!!!

There are few things in life as good as a big plateful of fried catfish with all the accouterments.

BONUS! Catfish doesn't taste "renal"* at all.

*Credit to French idiot

Posted by: naturalfake at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (nFnyb)

106 A French politician, Eric Benson, explained that, "France is neither a people, nor a language, or a territory, nor a religion; it is a conglomerate of peoples who want to live together."

I'm reading a book about the Franco-Prussian war. Apparently the rest of France absolutely hates the Parisians.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (CsUN+)

107 with that mysterious, renal flavour that is medicinal and industrial,

say "they taste like piss", but make it sound good

Posted by: anachronda at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (oY6Yp)

108 We might be living in Camp of the Saints,

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A 'Must Read' book. It is frightening.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (XeU6L)

109 92 If Biden wins, in 5 years, we'll be escaping to these migrant camps and communities (like Plum Grove, TX) just to get a taste of freedom a la Demolition Man.

Safety, as offered by the left, is slavery.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 10, 2024 11:20 AM (iK+0P)

Reminds me of something I've said from time to time; if it comes down to me having to choose between the Cartels or the Woke, I guess I gotta go with the Cartels. At least they still believe that men and women are different.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:23 AM (i9ffA)

110 Calais was the last English possession in France. Mary I ("Bloody Mary") lost it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:23 AM (9yWhg)

111 95 If you had a .45 you could kill them.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:18 AM (LVNnd)

I don't have any guns. RMBS is supposed to take me to the range one of these days and get me started.
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Start with a .22. Its much cheaper that way.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:23 AM (LVNnd)

112 Chicken livers can be great, as long as they are cleaned properly and not overcooked.

And chopped chicken livers made by my grandmother were a culinary delight!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (gSZYf)
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I'm willing to bet you can make them without that unique "renal flavor..."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 10, 2024 11:23 AM (7fElN)

113 Soft, with that mysterious, renal flavour that is medicinal and industrial

They pee on the livers?

That's going one better than Chinese Chef spit.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 11:23 AM (aD39U)

114 I remember reading in the late '70s about large #s of Turks being allowed into W.Germany...still happening, I guess.
Posted by: BignJames
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Cheap pliable labor is the goal of a lot of companies--it is also the corollary of free trade.

It is also the consequence of seeking to inflate economies endlessly to avoid deflation by increasing demand faster than supply.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:23 AM (tllOr)

115 They just want more federal money.
Posted by: BruceWayne

Gov. sponsored insurance fraud.

"nOboDy'S iLlEgAl~! OMG,lOoK aT AlL tHe dAmAgE! sEnd MoRe MonEyz~!"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2024 11:23 AM (IG4Id)

116 Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 10, 2024 11:21 AM (87qwM)

Hello, dear lady. Haven't seen you in a while.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024 11:23 AM (Q0kLU)

117 Apparently the rest of France absolutely hates the Parisians.
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This is true. Now try New Yorkers.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (LVNnd)

118 98 A French politician, Eric Benson, explained that, "France is neither a people, nor a language, or a territory, nor a religion; it is a conglomerate of peoples who want to live together."
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Shithead Justin called Canada the "first post-national state" along with some crap like that too many years ago.

The WEF has sent out their talking-points.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (2yu8s)

119 I like chicken and turkey gizzards, liver and heart. Truth.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (n2Iei)

120 Let's see:

Calais
Olé
filet
Edna St. Vincent-Millay
Art Vandalay

Nah, I've got nothing

Posted by: Muldoon at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (991eG)

121 with that mysterious, renal flavour that is medicinal and industrial,

say "they taste like piss", but make it sound good
Posted by: anachronda at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (oY6Yp)
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Urine does have both medicinal and industrial uses, I guess.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (7fElN)

122 The Marxists will never stop illegal immigration

Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (fwDg9)

123 Bingo. They want the hordes to queer the congressional map and gain power, and money to offset the problems they causes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (Zp1WF)

So we're back to needing a 3/5 compromise, and for much the same reason as the first time?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (nC+QA)

124 Apparently the rest of France absolutely hates the Parisians.

And everybody hates the Jews!

Posted by: Tom Lehrer at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (Q0kLU)

125 The idea that France doesn't have a culture, coming from a Frenchman, is so dumb. You'd have to be maleducated to an extreme to think that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (GBKbO)
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It isn't dumb. He's just a communist.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (Zp1WF)

126 Deport. Stop allowing illegals.

Posted by: SkylerKat at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (6JOB5)

127 In other food news, Grubgate . . .

The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Former Rep. Mayra Flores (R-Tex.), the first Mexican-born woman in Congress who is running to win back her seat, is now facing “Grubgate” after allegedly posting photos of food online that users say originated on other sites and presenting it as her own.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (FVME7)

128 We are in a middle of a war for the country so I don't like when mainly like minded people talk as if we have been defeated. But I understand.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (MNhXM)

129 OT, but I m reminded of it:

Going to war without France is like going hunting without an accordion. -- Norman Schwarzkopf

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 11:25 AM (XeU6L)

130 The only thing I think tastes like urine is dark licorice.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024 11:25 AM (n2Iei)

131 Urine does have both medicinal and industrial uses, I guess.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I think it used to be used in tanning.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:25 AM (9yWhg)

132 Refer to the Supreme Court decision a few years ago, Arizona vs Obama Administration. A State does not have the power to close its international borders, unless it is first asked to do so by the Federal Government. Ports of Entry are under Federal Administration, not State.
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The decision is as soundly Constitutional as Dredd Scott, Koramatsu and Roe.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 10, 2024 11:25 AM (iK+0P)

133 Who's the reporter? What newspaper does he work for? These seem to be important questions if you're going to connect the asking of a question to his son (that got ignored) in a chaotic setting to the establishment of the Democrat Party trying to get rid of Biden.

He's above reproach.
Benny Johnson is an American political commentator and YouTuber. He was a staff writer at BuzzFeed until he was fired following revelations that many of his published articles were plagiarized. Johnson later worked at various conservative outlets.

I was wrong. I think BJ reports the exchange, but it wasn't him who asked the question. I can't get the attached video clip to run.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:26 AM (CsUN+)

134 There's no plan for the illegals other than harvesting their ballots for every "election" until there are no more "elections."

8 years, tops.

Count on it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 10, 2024 11:26 AM (Q4IgG)

135 119 I like chicken and turkey gizzards, liver and heart. Truth.
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I hate liver but like pate and liverwurst on black bread with mayo and onions. Its weird. I'm an enigma to myself.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:26 AM (LVNnd)

136 Al Jazeera: Ten killed, gangs unleash terror as Ecuador declares state of emergency
Gunmen storm TV station during live broadcast, more than 20 violent incidents reported as country lurches into crisis.

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USCIS Establishes Family Reunification Parole Process for Ecuador, Release Date, 11/15/2023

Process will allow family members to reunite in the United States while they wait for immigrant visas to become available.

Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear. They only have to outrun us - for now at January 10, 2024 11:26 AM (GshMh)

137 101
Question: Would it be better to have the country run by a crime cartel, or is that who's running it now?
Posted by: Auspex at January 10, 2024 11:22 AM (j4U/Z)

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C. S. Lewis

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:26 AM (i9ffA)

138 127 In other food news, Grubgate . . .

The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Former Rep. Mayra Flores (R-Tex.), the first Mexican-born woman in Congress who is running to win back her seat, is now facing “Grubgate” after allegedly posting photos of food online that users say originated on other sites and presenting it as her own.
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*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Elizabeth "Pow Wow Chow" Warren at January 10, 2024 11:26 AM (fs1hN)

139 The Marxists will never stop illegal immigration
Posted by: Skip
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A very easy way to destroy the middle class. It's working.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 11:26 AM (XeU6L)

140 I like chicken and turkey gizzards, liver and heart. Truth.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (n2Iei)
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I'm not fond of livers, but deep-fried chicken gizzards kick ass.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:26 AM (Zp1WF)

141 Apparently the rest of France absolutely hates the Parisians.

And everybody hates the Jews!
Posted by: Tom Lehrer at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (Q0kLU)

Not quite like NYC here but close.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 10, 2024 11:26 AM (MNhXM)

142 Former Rep. Mayra Flores (R-Tex.), the first Mexican-born woman in Congress who is running to win back her seat

Is she the one that the folks here were salivating over who turned out to be GOPe?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:27 AM (9yWhg)

143 I'm willing to bet you can make them without that unique "renal flavor..."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 10, 2024 11:23 AM (7fElN)

My bet is that the livers were spoiled. That food writer is an idiot and a tool of the left.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 11:27 AM (gSZYf)

144 Imagine there's no borders. It's easy if you try.

No fences to divide us. Chicken livers and mud pie.

Posted by: John Lennon at January 10, 2024 11:27 AM (GB0ku)

145 KFC used to offer, on a regional basis, chicken livers. Around here you could get them fried KFC style or in BBQ sauce. Both were good but KFC discontinued them.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 10, 2024 11:27 AM (0EOe9)

146 I'm not fond of livers, but deep-fried chicken gizzards kick ass.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:26 AM (Zp1WF)

Chicken gizzard yakitori is delightful as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 10, 2024 11:27 AM (nFnyb)

147 My bet is that the livers were spoiled. That food writer is an idiot and a tool of the left.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 11:27 AM (gSZYf)
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Or he is just incredibly pretentious but also an ignorant fool who forgot that "renal" has nothing to do with the liver. That's my bet.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:28 AM (Zp1WF)

148 Urine does have both medicinal and industrial uses, I guess.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I think it used to be used in tanning.

Yup, so the next time you're complaining about your job, you can tell yourself "at least I'm not spending my day up to my waist walking in circles in a vat of old piss."

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:28 AM (CsUN+)

149 Killer Whales kill white sharks strictly for their livers.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024 11:28 AM (n2Iei)

150 I think it used to be used in tanning.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:25 AM (9yWhg)
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It has fairly a lot in common with Diesel Exhaust Fluid.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:28 AM (Zp1WF)

151 Despite the amount of offal I have eaten, I have never had kidney pie.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (aD39U)

152 Calais is *not* the way to handle this. Letting a camp grow into squalorous sprawl until it eventually has to be put down with militarized police and heavy equipment - and then the people aren't even deported back to where they came from, but scattered hither and yon instead - is not a recipe for success.
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South Africa wants a word with you.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (LVNnd)

153 Ghetto dining >> Jungle dining >> Dumpster diving

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (Q4IgG)

154 Yup, so the next time you're complaining about your job, you can tell yourself "at least I'm not spending my day up to my waist walking in circles in a vat of old piss."
Posted by: Archimedes

Wish I had a job to complain about.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (9yWhg)

155 123 Bingo. They want the hordes to queer the congressional map and gain power, and money to offset the problems they causes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:16 AM (Zp1WF)

So we're back to needing a 3/5 compromise, and for much the same reason as the first time?
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Stop counting non-citizens in the Census, like the Constitution intended.

Posted by: Elizabeth at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (fs1hN)

156 The decision is as soundly Constitutional as Dredd Scott, Koramatsu and Roe.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 10, 2024 11:25 AM (iK+0P)

As the saying goes, the Surpreme Court isn't Final because it's always right; it's Always Right because it's Final.

btw, and somewhat related to the current immigration question, there's a very good argument to be made that it was actually Dred Scott that started the Civil War, or at least irreversibly pushed everything in that direction.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (i9ffA)

157 Or he is just incredibly pretentious but also an ignorant fool who forgot that "renal" has nothing to do with the liver. That's my bet.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

"forgot" would seem to indicate that he ever knew that in the first place, which I find dubious at best.

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (CIS44)

158 I saw Pee-Flavored Chicken Livers open for The Red Hot Chili Peppers at SXSW in 2008.

They played with finesse and an elan that defied the surroundings.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (991eG)

159 Soft, with that mysterious, renal flavour that is medicinal and industrial, but also like earth and grass and licked copper.

Posted by: Label on the Bag'O Dicks at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (vFG9F)

160 For a real blast of renal flavor....Drink a wine glass of pee!
*che'fs kiss*
Posted by: French Chef

Champeegne?

Posted by: mikeski at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (1eyX7)

161 Nah, I've got nothing
Posted by: Muldoon at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (991eG)

There were a bunch of bums in Calais
Who put up their jungle to stay.
The powers that be
Then forced them to flee:
"You go now, you scum! Andale!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (Q0kLU)

162 Two new constitutional amendments:

ANYONE who entered the country without proper authorization, or who remained beyond expiration of their visa, at any time after 1980 is ineligible to vote and shall not hold public office. Incumbents may finish their terms but shall then be further ineligible. This amendment shall not be invalidated by the courts or legislature as 'ex post facto'.

Non-citizen populations shall not be counted for reasons of apportionment.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (T+0G9)

163 Reminds me of something I've said from time to time; if it comes down to me having to choose between the Cartels or the Woke, I guess I gotta go with the Cartels. At least they still believe that men and women are different.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:23 AM (i9ffA)

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* Putin has entered the dacha *

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:30 AM (TqxWE)

164 I also enjoy gnawing on a chicken neck.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024 11:30 AM (n2Iei)

165 110 Calais was the last English possession in France. Mary I ("Bloody Mary") lost it.
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The Wuhan flu was devastating England at the time so they couldn't mount a proper relief operation or defence even though Phillip II of Spain had warned Mary that it was coming. [According to the intro to, probably, a Wiki I just read while researching wrongly misremembering King John losing Calais.]

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:30 AM (2yu8s)

166 48 What was the movie? District 51?
Posted by: Titanium White at

District 9?

nonsense. if it were district 9, the chicken livers would have tasted like a nice cat food.

Posted by: anachronda at January 10, 2024 11:30 AM (oY6Yp)

167 saw Pee-Flavored Chicken Livers open for The Red Hot Chili Peppers at SXSW in 2008.

They played with finesse and an elan that defied the surroundings.
Posted by: Muldoon at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (991eG)
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LOL. Sounds like a hell of a show!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:30 AM (Zp1WF)

168 Stop counting non-citizens in the Census, like the Constitution intended.
Posted by: Elizabeth at J

It's a living document.

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:30 AM (CIS44)

169 For a real blast of renal flavor....Drink a wine glass of pee!
*che'fs kiss*
Posted by: French Chef

Champeegne?

I prefer Peeseco.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:30 AM (CsUN+)

170

Feed the homeless to the hungry!

Posted by: Ped Xing at January 10, 2024 11:30 AM (uKFdr)

171 145 KFC used to offer, on a regional basis, chicken livers. Around here you could get them fried KFC style or in BBQ sauce. Both were good but KFC discontinued them.
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They discontinued collard greens, too. A total disaster.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:30 AM (LVNnd)

172 119 I like chicken and turkey gizzards, liver and heart. Truth.
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You cannot fry.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:31 AM (2yu8s)

173 Reminds me of something I've said from time to time; if it comes down to me having to choose between the Cartels or the Woke, I guess I gotta go with the Cartels. At least they still believe that men and women are different.
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The left wants your soul in sacrifice for sins you neither committed nor can ever be atoned for.

The new cartels want your obedience, compliance, money and, sometimes your life.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at January 10, 2024 11:31 AM (iK+0P)

174 Adams said something about controlling the border and a few days later the FBI raided his office. I’m sure it was just a coincidence though.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2024 11:31 AM (u73oe)

175 For a real blast of renal flavor....Drink a wine glass of pee!
*che'fs kiss*
Posted by: French Chef
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Champeegne?
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I prefer Peeseco.
Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:30 AM (CsUN+)
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I included the bit from the food critic because it's so laughably preposterous that I couldn't *not* include it.

I didn't expect it to start a pun-a-thon. This place never fails to deliver!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:31 AM (Zp1WF)

176 Nah, I've got nothing
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Assign it to your valet.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:31 AM (2yu8s)

177 Yup, so the next time you're complaining about your job, you can tell yourself "at least I'm not spending my day up to my waist walking in circles in a vat of old piss."
Posted by: Archimedes
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[brightens]

By golly, I do feel better!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 11:31 AM (XeU6L)

178
We frequently cook chicken livers. The dogs love them.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 11:32 AM (MoZTd)

179
I've had catfish from Canada to Cape Canaveral, taste, texture and tenderness issues I can't argue. Don't like.

Best attempt I ever saw was Larry Csonka's place cutting 'em to tiny bites and dousing the hell out of 'em with spices so you couldn't tell it was catfish.

Posted by: Auspex at January 10, 2024 11:32 AM (j4U/Z)

180 We frequently cook chicken livers. The dogs love them.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

How are the pups doing, Hadrian?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:32 AM (9yWhg)

181 There were a bunch of bums in Calais
Who put up their jungle to stay.
The powers that be
Then forced them to flee:
"You go now, you scum! Andale!"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (Q0kLU)

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* eloquent golf clap *

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:33 AM (TqxWE)

182 The decision is as soundly Constitutional as Dredd Scott, Koramatsu and Roe.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice
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I agree. In essence, the Court was asked whether Congress left room to allow states to enforce immigration law or whether it had effectively precluded states from doing so via the Supremacy Clause and delegated authority over immigration in Article I.

Despite examples of where Congress allowed state and local law enforcement to hold foreign citizens on detainer for deportation or access ICE databases to determine if prisoners are in the US legally, Scotus decided that Congress has preempted the entire field of immigration law from the states unless it makes a specific exception such as the leo instance I mentioned above.

Scotus essentially made a ruling on congressional intent that was not specifically spelled out that was faulty and full of ignoring past evidence of state, local, and federal leos cooperating to remove criminal illegals.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:33 AM (tllOr)

183 171 Yep.Collard greens are good stuff. A little bit of malt vinegar makes them really good stuff.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 10, 2024 11:33 AM (0EOe9)

184
I didn't expect it to start a pun-a-thon. This place never fails to deliver!
Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Mais, oui, oui.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 11:33 AM (XeU6L)

185 Drink a wine glass of pee!

Morarji Desai, former Prime Minister of India, used to drink a jar of his own urine every morning.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:33 AM (9yWhg)

186 Damn MAGAts are AGAINST child sex trafficking! What's up with that?

POLITICO
@politico
From Pizzagate to QAnon and now the “Epstein list,” an expert explains why sex trafficking conspiracy theories are so buzzy in MAGA circles👇

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 10, 2024 11:34 AM (FVME7)

187 Stop counting non-citizens in the Census, like the Constitution intended.
Posted by: Elizabeth at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (fs1hN)

Well the problem with going with the original wording of the constitution is that at the time it was written, women and children were not considered to be citizens. That's why Article 1, section 2 specified counting free Persons, not citizens. Citizens were those who could vote.

All of that changed with the 14th Amendment, which is why we argue about the 14th whenever Citizenship is discussed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:35 AM (i9ffA)

188 @politico
From Pizzagate to QAnon and now the “Epstein list,” an expert explains why sex trafficking conspiracy theories are so buzzy in MAGA circles👇
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 10, 2024 11:34 AM (FVME7)
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It couldn't be because of all the sex trafficking engaged in by our ruling class, could it?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:35 AM (Zp1WF)

189 183 171 Yep.Collard greens are good stuff. A little bit of malt vinegar makes them really good stuff.
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Totes agree. I wish KFC would offer steamed rice with their gravy. The instant potatoes kind of suck. The gravy is okay.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:35 AM (LVNnd)

190 Morarji Desai, former Prime Minister of India, used to drink a jar of his own urine every morning.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:33 AM (9yWhg)

Did he like it dark or light straw colored?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024 11:35 AM (n2Iei)

191 Best attempt I ever saw was Larry Csonka's place cutting 'em to tiny bites and dousing the hell out of 'em with spices so you couldn't tell it was catfish.
Posted by: Auspex

You want the US farm raised ones. A lot of restaurants serve cheap Asian catfish relatives that literally grow in rivers used for sewage. Can be a problem with free running catfish caught in rivers like the Mississippi.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:35 AM (tllOr)

192 186 Damn MAGAts are AGAINST child sex trafficking! What's up with that?

POLITICO
@politico
From Pizzagate to QAnon and now the “Epstein list,” an expert explains why sex trafficking conspiracy theories are so buzzy in MAGA circles👇

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 10, 2024 11:34 AM (FVME7)

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"Violence against women is super bad and should be prosecuted extralegally to overcome historical disadvantages to the sex. Also, sex trafficking is just a thing that happens sometimes and people should ignore it without putting any undue attention on it."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:35 AM (GBKbO)

193 REPORTER TO HUNTER: “What kind of crack do you normally smoke Mr. Biden?!”

Any...though I prefer asscrack.

Posted by: BignJames at January 10, 2024 11:35 AM (AwYPR)

194 Best attempt I ever saw was Larry Csonka's place cutting 'em to tiny bites and dousing the hell out of 'em with spices so you couldn't tell it was catfish.
Posted by: Auspex
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Spice + breading or batter, deep fried, you can disguise anything...even okra.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 11:35 AM (XeU6L)

195 This busty bikini brunette hopes to never visit any of the developing carbon copies of the Jungle that are cropping up in the US:
http://tiny.cc/mryyvz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:36 AM (Zp1WF)

196 Conservatives Compare Johnson’s Bipartisan Spending Deal to One Responsible for McCarthy Ousting

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Wait. We did get fooled again?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 10, 2024 11:36 AM (FVME7)

197 Livers and other entrails belong in a haggis.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 10, 2024 11:36 AM (sEuZZ)

198 185 Drink a wine glass of pee!

Morarji Desai, former Prime Minister of India, used to drink a jar of his own urine every morning.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:33 AM (9yWhg

Fooking disgusting.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 10, 2024 11:36 AM (GB0ku)

199 "Violence against women is super bad and should be prosecuted extralegally to overcome historical disadvantages to the sex. Also, sex trafficking is just a thing that happens sometimes and people should ignore it without putting any undue attention on it."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

you forgot sex work is real work.

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:36 AM (CIS44)

200
Urine does have both medicinal and industrial uses, I guess.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 10, 2024

***
Industrial, yes, once upon a time workers ("pot-boys") collected the urine from public stations and sold it for use in cleaning clothing -- that ammonia, don't y' know.

Medicinal? Well, maybe if you get stung by a jellyfish. Monica and Joey can tell us more about that.

Posted by: Chandler Bing at January 10, 2024 11:37 AM (J2vNu)

201 And three more while I'm on a roll:

The seventeenth amendment is hereby repealed.

The twenty-sixth amendment is hereby repealed. The voting age for all elected offices at all levels is 25.

All states get one additional electoral college vote.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 10, 2024 11:37 AM (T+0G9)

202 http://tiny.cc/mryyvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Nice. No navel piercing.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:37 AM (9yWhg)

203 North of Calais, France was a camp referred to as the "Calais Jungle," likely deriving from a Pashto word meaning "forest."

Jungle is not Pashto, it's Hindi. Nor is Calais. Was this a joke or something?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2024 11:37 AM (IG4Id)

204 Calais jungle? I don't want my children to grow up in a racial jungle.
Where did I hear this one before?

Posted by: Anacleto Mitraglia at January 10, 2024 11:37 AM (3Nqi/)

205 I've wondered if Ale Mayorkas is a U.S. citizen. When & how did he get citizenship? He was brought to the U.S. as a baby.

Alejandro Nicholas Mayorkas (born November 24, 1959) is an American lawyer and politician who has been serving as the seventh United States Secretary of Homeland Security since February 2, 2021. (Wikipedia, in part.)

Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear. They only have to outrun us - for now at January 10, 2024 11:37 AM (GshMh)

206 195 This busty bikini brunette hopes to never visit any of the developing carbon copies of the Jungle that are cropping up in the US:
http://tiny.cc/mryyvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:36 AM (Zp1WF)

That poor bikini.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 10, 2024 11:37 AM (GB0ku)

207 Medicinal? Well, maybe if you get stung by a jellyfish. Monica and Joey can tell us more about that.
Posted by: Chandler Bing

Joey couldnt do it cause he was tired on account of digging the hole.

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (CIS44)

208 Eric Benson needs a punch in the mouth.

Posted by: Victor Laslow at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (AD14M)

209 195 This busty bikini brunette hopes to never visit any of the developing carbon copies of the Jungle that are cropping up in the US:
http://tiny.cc/mryyvz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:36 AM (Zp1WF)

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Joker smile. Would murder me while laughing hysterically.

3/10

Would not bang.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (GBKbO)

210 Morarji Desai, former Prime Minister of India, used to drink a jar of his own urine every morning.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024
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Did he like it dark or light straw colored?
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024

***
Somehow I'm not hungry any more. . . .

Posted by: Chandler Bing at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (J2vNu)

211 Drink a wine glass of pee!

Morarji Desai, former Prime Minister of India, used to drink a jar of his own urine every morning.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:33 AM (9yWhg)

Wannabe.

Posted by: Mahatma Gandhi at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (nFnyb)

212 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (Q0kLU)

*******

Thanks Mr. Piercing! Well done!

Programming Note: MPPP will be guest hosting for Muldoon's Library O'limericks for the rest of the month.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (991eG)

213 All of that changed with the 14th Amendment, which is why we argue about the 14th whenever Citizenship is discussed.
Posted by: Tom Servo
____

My comment (w/ sock fail) was admittedly flit, implied was that amendments are part of the constitution. And that the 14th is mis-interpreted to include non-citizens.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (fs1hN)

214 Stop counting non-citizens in the Census, like the Constitution intended.
Posted by: Elizabeth at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (fs1hN)

That would certainly be better, and more just. We may still be stuck with a compromise if dems dig in their feet, just like last time.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (nC+QA)

215 203 I thought "jungle" ultimately came from Malay.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (9yWhg)

216 Today I learned there are different kinds of crack.

Oh man, I just tried some of that upper east end crack. It's got such a nice high and a very smooth finish to it.

Way better than that west end crack we had last week.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (GB0ku)

217 Looks like I won't be needed for this thread. The Lefty sites, after a brief discussion on migrant issues in Blue cities, have either gone quiet on the topic, or only discuss the inhumanity of TX and FL governors busing people, and how the Feds need to stop it.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (JCZqz)

218 my solution for the invaders of the US is as simple as possible. They get to choose between permanent exile or execution. And the same alternatives for those trying to import and coddle them.
As far as the economic issue, same choice for the permanent welfare class.

Posted by: Wingnutt at January 10, 2024 11:39 AM (9erEt)

219 Jungle is not Pashto, it's Hindi. Nor is Calais. Was this a joke or something?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2024 11:37 AM (IG4Id)
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Nope. From what I've read, that's the best-guess etymology as far as how it came to be known by that word. Assumed to be derived from the Pashto word "dzjangal." Per the University of Bristol, anyway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:39 AM (Zp1WF)

220 admittedly flit - admittedly flip, doh!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 10, 2024 11:39 AM (fs1hN)

221 Medicinal? Well, maybe if you get stung by a jellyfish. Monica and Joey can tell us more about that.

Posted by: Chandler Bing

That's right! I stepped up!

Posted by: Joey Tribbiani at January 10, 2024 11:39 AM (CsUN+)

222 217 Looks like I won't be needed for this thread. The Lefty sites, after a brief discussion on migrant issues in Blue cities, have either gone quiet on the topic, or only discuss the inhumanity of TX and FL governors busing people, and how the Feds need to stop it.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 10, 2024 11:38 AM (JCZqz)

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Is there any ever back and forth about how blue states should be welcoming them? About how blue states are more moral and generous and migrants will lead better lives there?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:39 AM (GBKbO)

223 Morarji Desai, former Prime Minister of India, used to drink a jar of his own urine every morning.

My "Morning Beer".

Posted by: Morarji Desai at January 10, 2024 11:40 AM (aD39U)

224
Oh man, I just tried some of that upper east end crack. It's got such a nice high and a very smooth finish to it.

Way better than that west end crack we had last week.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 10, 2024

***
East End boys and West End girls can tell us more about that.

Posted by: Pet Shop Boys at January 10, 2024 11:40 AM (J2vNu)

225 Damn MAGAts are AGAINST child sex trafficking! What's up with that?

POLITICO
@politico
From Pizzagate to QAnon and now the “Epstein list,” an expert explains why sex trafficking conspiracy theories are so buzzy in MAGA circles👇

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 10, 2024 11:34 AM (FVME7)

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I'm still waiting for the LGBTQIAWTFBBQ+PEDO psychotics to add a couple of P's (speaking of renal) for Pedo and Psychotic.

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:41 AM (3i5bL)

226 191 A friend's dad will catch catfish, keeps them alive and puts them into a stock tank for a few days, feeding them whatever. Says it cleans them out. Guy is into those outdoor channel cooking shows and is always trying stuff. He sent me some smoked carp he cooked up and to tell the truth it was pretty good.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 10, 2024 11:41 AM (0EOe9)

227 Per the University of Bristol, anyway.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Yeah, well, fuck them Brits.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2024 11:41 AM (IG4Id)

228 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 10, 2024 11:41 AM (9gDA7)

229 or only discuss the inhumanity of TX and FL governors busing people, and how the Feds need to stop it
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I'm pretty sure the feds are doing more shipping of illegals around the country than Fla/Tx combined. More are probably finding transport themselves to the fabled sanctuary cities paved with gold.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 10, 2024 11:41 AM (fs1hN)

230 Nope. From what I've read, that's the best-guess etymology as far as how it came to be known by that word. Assumed to be derived from the Pashto word "dzjangal." Per the University of Bristol, anyway.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:39 AM (Zp1WF)

Now I wanna see a TV show called Kabul 911, led by Lieutenant Dzjangal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:41 AM (i9ffA)

231 as Mayor Eric Adams said the city would be reviewing shelter security following a fatal weekend stabbing.

But he won't be changing their sanctuary city status.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 10, 2024 11:42 AM (9gDA7)

232 Yeah, well, fuck them Brits.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 10, 2024 11:41 AM (IG4Id)
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LOL. Works for me. But apparently in this particular odd case, the word "Jungle" is a homophone of different origin, not the English word "jungle."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:42 AM (Zp1WF)

233 KFC used to offer, on a regional basis, chicken livers. Around here you could get them fried KFC style or in BBQ sauce. Both were good but KFC discontinued them.
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They discontinued collard greens, too. A total disaster.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:30 AM (LVNnd)

After Harland Sanders sold KFC and became their roving ambassador, the company hated him dropping in on franchisees, because he was not at all shy about telling everyone how the food they were serving sucked now that the bean counters were in charge.

He famously called the gravy "wallpaper paste."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024 11:42 AM (Q0kLU)

234 Morarji Desai, former Prime Minister of India, used to drink a jar of his own urine every morning.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I used to SAY I drank a jar of my own urine every day. To see how gullible my people were.

Posted by: Morarji Desai, former Pee-M at January 10, 2024 11:42 AM (J0EBe)

235 btw, and somewhat related to the current immigration question, there's a very good argument to be made that it was actually Dred Scott that started the Civil War, or at least irreversibly pushed everything in that direction.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:29 AM (i9ffA)

I saw that comment recently. I believe there's an argument to be made that, by making *everyone* into forced slave catchers, Dred Scott made every free state citizen into a servant of the slave states.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 10, 2024 11:42 AM (nC+QA)

236 not sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:01 AM (GBKbO)

Be thankful.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 10, 2024 11:42 AM (9gDA7)

237 Dyeing cloth saffron-yellow too.

Speaking of Baldrick, Tony Robinson trodded out cloth in urine in one of his shows and said it was disgusting! Luckily, it was women's work in the Middle Ages and earlier.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:43 AM (2yu8s)

238 Medicinal? Well, maybe if you get stung by a jellyfish. Monica and Joey can tell us more about that.
Posted by: Chandler Bing

Joey couldnt do it cause he was tired on account of digging the hole.

Incorrect. Joey was tired, but he stepped up.

http://tinyurl.com/4kjpur64

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:43 AM (CsUN+)

239 Is there any ever back and forth about how blue states should be welcoming them? About how blue states are more moral and generous and migrants will lead better lives there?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:39 AM (GBKbO)

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"WHY DO YOU HATE BROWN PEOPLE!!!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:43 AM (3i5bL)

240 This busty bikini brunette hopes to never visit any of the developing carbon copies of the Jungle that are cropping up in the US:
http://tiny.cc/mryyvz

Not bad. Pretty smile.

Way out of my league, though.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024 11:43 AM (Q0kLU)

241 Morarji Desai, former Prime Minister of India, used to drink a jar of his own urine every morning.

Better than the Health Minister that drank the ganges River water to prove that the water is fine and ended in the ICU right after he did.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 10, 2024 11:43 AM (dKiJG)

242 239 "WHY DO YOU HATE BROWN PEOPLE!!!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:43 AM (3i5bL)

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Because they don't respect a man's right to become a little girl by just saying so?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:44 AM (GBKbO)

243 Medicinal? Well, maybe if you get stung by a jellyfish. Monica and Joey can tell us more about that.
Posted by: Chandler Bing

Joey couldnt do it cause he was tired on account of digging the hole.

Incorrect. Joey was tired, but he stepped up.

http://tinyurl.com/4kjpur64

Man, I got that wrong. He couldn't because of stage fright. Chandler did it.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:44 AM (CsUN+)

244
***
East End boys and West End girls can tell us more about that.
Posted by: Pet Shop Boys at January 10, 2024 11:40 AM (J2vNu)

*stabs ears*

Asshole.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 10, 2024 11:44 AM (9gDA7)

245 The Book of Daniel presages the events in France as Daniel interprets Nebuchadnezzar's dream about the Feats of Calais...

Posted by: Muldoon at January 10, 2024 11:44 AM (991eG)

246 mmmmm.

Coffee time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:44 AM (Zp1WF)

247 Best attempt I ever saw was Larry Csonka's place cutting 'em to tiny bites and dousing the hell out of 'em with spices so you couldn't tell it was catfish.
Posted by: Auspex

You want the US farm raised ones. A lot of restaurants serve cheap Asian catfish relatives that literally grow in rivers used for sewage. Can be a problem with free running catfish caught in rivers like the Mississippi.
Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:35 AM (tllOr)

Catfish also doesn't last long.

Buying and frying the first day it shows up in the store is your best bet and just caught, of course.

Posted by: Mahatma Gandhi at January 10, 2024 11:44 AM (nFnyb)

248 I'm pretty sure the feds are doing more shipping of illegals around the country than Fla/Tx combined. More are probably finding transport themselves to the fabled sanctuary cities paved with gold.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 10, 2024 11:41 AM (fs1hN)

I've seen an estimate that 95% of the illegals going to NYC and Chicago are being brought in by the Cartels and their associates, in smaller private transports. (10 person vans, etc) That's why trying to stop the buses is just Kabuki Theater.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:44 AM (i9ffA)

249 Better than the Health Minister that drank the ganges River water to prove that the water is fine and ended in the ICU right after he did.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio a

*Saltburn has entered the chat*

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:44 AM (CIS44)

250 Thanks Mr. Piercing! Well done!

Praise from Caesar! That makes my day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024 11:45 AM (Q0kLU)

251 197 Livers and other entrails belong in a haggis.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 10, 2024 11:36 AM (sEuZZ)

THANKS! I had forgotten all about Burns night on the 25th and the Great Chieftain of the Puddin' Race!

I'm glad we have found a dish we can all agree on!

Posted by: Auspex at January 10, 2024 11:46 AM (j4U/Z)

252
After Harland Sanders sold KFC and became their roving ambassador, the company hated him dropping in on franchisees, because he was not at all shy about telling everyone how the food they were serving sucked now that the bean counters were in charge.

He famously called the gravy "wallpaper paste."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024

***
John Bickerson: "Wallpaper paste --!"

Blanche Bickerson: "Oh, don't be such a baby. It's just flour and water. Go take an antidote and I'll whip up some eggs."

John: "I'm not hungry any more. . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 10, 2024 11:46 AM (J2vNu)

253 Former major league ball player Moises Alou used to pee on his hands. He said it touched up the skin.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024 11:46 AM (n2Iei)

254 Randalls Island, now a tent city, used to be a park, and the center of kids sports fields for Manhattan kids, located between Astoria and Yorkville in Manhattan. It was a very nice place, and the happiest place for the hundreds and thousands of kids who played sports there.

Now its a crime-ridden slum. Brandon did that.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 10, 2024 11:46 AM (C36+6)

255 Former MMA Champ Jake Shields: “Our Country Is Being Run by Crooks So I Feel Like Retards Would Be a Move in the Right Direction"

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I've heard crazier political theories.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 10, 2024 11:46 AM (FVME7)

256 The Book of Daniel presages the events in France as Daniel interprets Nebuchadnezzar's dream about the Feats of Calais...
Posted by: Muldoon

Was that before of after he was in the Lyons den?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:46 AM (9yWhg)

257 House Oversight Committee explodes as Hunter Biden crashes their party...the House Oversight Committee began debate on a motion to hold Hunter Biden in contempt for failing to appear to give testimony. But that already ludicrous action became even more comical when Hunter showed up at the committee, offering to testify in public if they would only allow him.

@Acyn
Mace: You're the epitome of white privilege, coming into the oversight committee, spitting in our face, You have no balls to come up here and --

Moskowitz: We can hear from Hunter Biden right now

Mace: Are women allowed to speak?!? Hunter Biden should be arrested right here

After 30 minutes of sitting in the audience while Republicans tried to maintain the importance of only listening to Hunter behind closed doors, he left the room, leaving Republicans to try and carry on with an intrinsically hypocritical hearing that included three members on the Republican side who ignored subpoenas from the Jan. 6 committee.

Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 10, 2024 11:47 AM (JCZqz)

258 I'm wondering what percentage of illegals are for cheap labor, and what percentage are for sex slaves and spare body parts.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 10, 2024 11:47 AM (sEuZZ)

259 Urine does have both medicinal and industrial uses, I guess.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 10, 2024 11:24 AM (7fElN)

A long comfortable leak on the ground under your field antenna will improve the antenna's gain.

I'll leave peaceably.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at January 10, 2024 11:47 AM (MkuC5)

260 This busty bikini brunette hopes to never visit any of the developing carbon copies of the Jungle that are cropping up in the US:
http://tiny.cc/mryyvz

She looks approachable.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024 11:48 AM (n2Iei)

261 257 After 30 minutes of sitting in the audience while Republicans tried to maintain the importance of only listening to Hunter behind closed doors, he left the room, leaving Republicans to try and carry on with an intrinsically hypocritical hearing that included three members on the Republican side who ignored subpoenas from the Jan. 6 committee.
Posted by: Intercepted Daily Kos Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 10, 2024 11:47 AM (JCZqz)

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So, I'm unclear...is ignoring subpoenas good or bad?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:48 AM (GBKbO)

262 I saw that comment recently. I believe there's an argument to be made that, by making *everyone* into forced slave catchers, Dred Scott made every free state citizen into a servant of the slave states.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
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More than that, it also made 'free states' into slave states. At the time of the Civil War, a federal court case was pending regarding whether a slave owner could take his slave and retain them in New York City. The earlier and hated Fugitive Slave Law of the 1850 compromise is what ended the Whig party essentially and was widely disobeyed in the North. Dred also overturned the once on free soil, always free doctrine by holding that blacks whether free or in bondage were not Citizens of the US and thus were property. It argued that not even free states could change this status.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:48 AM (tllOr)

263 Speaking of aliens, Hunter crashes the House Oversight Committee today with Abbe Normal, and his slimeball fixer stoner lawyer friend. Nancy Mace gave Hunter shit to his face and said that he had no balls and then she was interrupted by a Democrat. The slime left the room before MGT had a crack at him.

This is the best argument for why he needed to be deposed privately and refused. All failure theater.

Posted by: Cheri at January 10, 2024 11:48 AM (oiNtH)

264 I'm wondering what percentage of illegals are for cheap labor, and what percentage are for sex slaves and spare body parts.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 10, 2024

***
We will be for whatever you like, as long as there is cash involved. And as long as you do it to those other people over there, of course.

Posted by: Illegals, Translated at January 10, 2024 11:48 AM (J2vNu)

265 262 More than that, it also made 'free states' into slave states. At the time of the Civil War, a federal court case was pending regarding whether a slave owner could take his slave and retain them in New York City. The earlier and hated Fugitive Slave Law of the 1850 compromise is what ended the Whig party essentially and was widely disobeyed in the North. Dred also overturned the once on free soil, always free doctrine by holding that blacks whether free or in bondage were not Citizens of the US and thus were property. It argued that not even free states could change this status.
Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:48 AM (tllOr)

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But the Civil War was about states rights! /s

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:49 AM (GBKbO)

266 I saw that comment recently. I believe there's an argument to be made that, by making *everyone* into forced slave catchers, Dred Scott made every free state citizen into a servant of the slave states.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 10, 2024 11:42 AM (nC+QA)

Exactly. Even worse, it made the Slave States think they had the Constitution on their side, so they refused to compromise, and it made almost everyone in the Free States bitter and resentful about having to enforce laws they didn't approve of. It pushed both sides into believing that all out War was the only option left.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:49 AM (i9ffA)

267 So, I'm unclear...is ignoring subpoenas good or bad?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Actually he left with his lawyers when Nancy Mace said Hunter should be arrested and held right there (presumably by the House Sgt. At Arms or his deputies). They do actually have that authority under McGrain v Daugherty when Congress is employing its investigative powers and needs to compel a witness to testify.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:49 AM (tllOr)

268 On the plus side, It’s the golden age of hobo hunting.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 10, 2024 11:49 AM (pOkWx)

269 I'm predicting a big blow up in crime once the illegals have to start making the installment payments to the cartel. A mass organized crime wave in any given location wouldn't surprise me, maybe a 21st century Columbus NM.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at January 10, 2024 11:50 AM (0EOe9)

270 On the plus side, It’s the golden age of hobo hunting.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

do you get to keep whatever was in their bindle when you bag one?

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:50 AM (CIS44)

271 A more complete clip:
"If I had to, I'd pee on any one of you"!

http://tinyurl.com/3fduefwx

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 11:50 AM (CsUN+)

272 Mace probably could've kept Hunter there if she'd shown her boobs.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:51 AM (9yWhg)

273
How are the pups doing, Hadrian?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

____________

Thanks for asking. Getting leggy and starting to speed around. Of the boys, only George hasn't had his second testicle drop (both have to be down for them to be shown).

We have a 1500 sq. ft. pen for them to run around in, so they get lots of exercise.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 11:51 AM (MoZTd)

274 Speaking of Rebel Media, as Joe did in a passing reference when talking about Calais, did you catch the outrageous arrest of a Rebel News reporter yesterday in Canada? He was asking the absolutely foul Chrystia Freeland a question she did not want to answer, about a Persian terror threat, and an RCMP officer purposely collided with the reporter, and then arrested him for assault. Freeland just smirked as she walked away from the arrest.

Canada is well into the twilight zone of a post-free society.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 10, 2024 11:51 AM (k+80L)

275 This busty bikini brunette hopes to never visit any of the developing carbon copies of the Jungle that are cropping up in the US:
http://tiny.cc/mryyvz

She looks approachable.
Posted by: Northernlurker at January 10, 2024 11:48 AM (n2Iei)

Yeah, she'd tell me to get lost, but politely and with a smile.

Posted by: spindrift at January 10, 2024 11:52 AM (AA8bA)

276 Mace probably could've kept Hunter there if she'd shown her boobs.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Not in this sacred building!
-Staffer who got rogered up the bum in the senate chambers

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 11:52 AM (CIS44)

277
We have a 1500 sq. ft. pen for them to run around in, so they get lots of exercise.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 11:51 AM (MoZTd)

That's almost my house.....Lucky dogs.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 10, 2024 11:52 AM (9gDA7)

278 Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene @RepMTG 49m
Hunter Biden traffics women for sex but ran away when I was recognized to speak to him.

The only women Hunter Biden likes to deal with are the women he hires for sex, flies across the country, films and photos his disgusting porn with, and post his nasty videos on porn sites.

Hunter can’t handle being held accountable for the crimes he has committed.

[And the leftist retort...]
Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 59m
JUST IN - Dem lawmaker says Marjorie Taylor Greene showed Hunter Biden "d*** pics" in committee room.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:53 AM (2yu8s)

279 I saw Rogered Up the Bum open for The Sex Pistols at Harry's in '81.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 10, 2024 11:53 AM (9gDA7)

280 The cuisine argument is made of the by leftists. Why if you send illegals home all the wonderful Mexican food will go away. And we can’t possible have that.

Posted by: Montec at January 10, 2024 11:53 AM (C3sl/)

281 Because nobody wants to see a dog with 1 testicle?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 10, 2024 11:53 AM (pOkWx)

282 @TheInsiderPaper
JUST IN - Dem lawmaker says Marjorie Taylor Greene showed Hunter Biden "d*** pics" in committee room.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:53 AM (2yu8s)
++++
And?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:53 AM (Zp1WF)

283 It pushed both sides into believing that all out War was the only option left.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 11:49 AM (i9ffA)

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* The 2024 election has entered the chat *

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:54 AM (bw5YC)

284 Most seafood, fish, is better the day it's caught.

I went Tuna fishing and had a tuna steak that night from my catch. It was almost like I didn't have to season it. Still salty.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 10, 2024 11:54 AM (Q4IgG)

285 Because nobody wants to see a dog with 1 testicle?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 10, 2024 11:53 AM (pOkWx)

Walk him and pitch to the rhino.

...

Wait, I may have that wrong.

Posted by: spindrift at January 10, 2024 11:54 AM (AA8bA)

286 Of the boys, only George hasn't had his second testicle drop (both have to be down for them to be shown).

I ignored that rule.

Posted by: Zombie Schikelgruber at January 10, 2024 11:54 AM (9yWhg)

287 258 I'm wondering what percentage of illegals are for cheap labor, and what percentage are for sex slaves and spare body parts.
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You'd have to ask George Soros.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:55 AM (LVNnd)

288 Liver is disgusting period.

Anyway, why int the NYPD rounding up and jailing every single CBP agent assigned there? They should….IF they were intellectually consistent. Surprise! They are not.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 11:55 AM (1ceyB)

289 Collard greens are good stuff.
Posted by: bill in arkansas,

*******

I won't hold that against you. I DO know some folks who simply don't like collard people.

Posted by: Muldoon at January 10, 2024 11:55 AM (991eG)

290 Of the boys, only George hasn't had his second testicle drop (both have to be down for them to be shown).

You know who else only had one testicle shown.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 10, 2024 11:55 AM (9gDA7)

291 So if I understand the left…

Having gay sex in the senate is meh. But showing a dick pic in a congressional conference room is the mostest worstest thing ever.

Posted by: Montec at January 10, 2024 11:56 AM (C3sl/)

292 LOOOL Hunter Biden was asked by a reporter "What kind of Crack do you Smoke"
http://tinyurl.com/2krf3avm

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 10, 2024 11:56 AM (dKiJG)

293 We have a 1500 sq. ft. pen for them to run around in, so they get lots of exercise.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 11:51 AM (MoZTd)

When do they start running down the wolves?

Posted by: Zombie Schikelgruber at January 10, 2024 11:56 AM (9yWhg)

294 258 I'm wondering what percentage of illegals are for cheap labor, and what percentage are for sex slaves and spare body parts.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

60%. 40% - the very well educated - are in academia, finance, government, etc.

Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear. They only have to outrun us - for now at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (GshMh)

295 @TheInsiderPaper
JUST IN - Dem lawmaker says Marjorie Taylor Greene showed Hunter Biden "d*** pics" in committee room.
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:53 AM (2yu8s)
++++
And?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:53 AM (Zp1WF)

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"Gentlemen, you can't bring dicks in here! This is the Congress!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (bw5YC)

296 So if I understand the left…

Having gay sex in the senate is meh. But showing a dick pic in a congressional conference room is the mostest worstest thing ever.
Posted by: Montec at January 10, 2024 11:56 AM (C3sl/)

It makes you a racist, homophobic bigot.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (9gDA7)

297 But the Civil War was about states rights! /s
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I've actually read the various secession conventions and legislative floor debates (for states that did not hold conventions). It was over slavery. Ironically, the Confederate Constitution made the Confederate government in some ways stronger than the Federal one.

But, Lincoln's stupidity (or he wanted a war) in handling a number of wavering slave states like Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee, and perhaps even Georgia actually undermined any more peaceful settlement when Lincoln announced blockades, calling for troops and specifically troops from places like Virginia up to fight the original Deep South seven states.

States that did not have a large proportion of slaves in their economy were more hesitant about joining the south until Lincoln made his orders. The original seven states simply did not have the ability to resist much and some statements from their secession conventions argued that the North would never fight.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (tllOr)

298 Dammit, off sock!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (9yWhg)

299 Whether here for sex trafficking or cheap labor, they’re all here for the long term goal of voting Democrat.

Posted by: Montec at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (C3sl/)

300 I went Tuna fishing and had a tuna steak that night from my catch. It was almost like I didn't have to season it. Still salty.
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There was a CEO who would dine with prospective managers. If you salted your dinner prior to eating some of it he would not hire you.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (LVNnd)

301 * Colony Ridge, TX has entered the post *
Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:09 AM (TqxWE)

I’ll make a speech deploring the place, then demand the Legislature do something about it, and go on Fox News for some interviews. AoS will praise my name endlessly for “doing something.” Man, my job is easy.

Posted by: Gov Abbott at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (1ceyB)

302 > I'm wondering what percentage of illegals are for cheap labor, and what percentage are for sex slaves and spare body parts.
______________

I'm positive 100% are here for their ballots.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (Q4IgG)

303
Because nobody wants to see a dog with 1 testicle?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

__________

AKC rule. Both testicles must be descended and of normal size or the dog is disqualified.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 10, 2024 11:58 AM (MoZTd)

304 282 And?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:53 AM (Zp1WF)

“ReVeNgE pOrN!!!”

Posted by: The Video Game of the Movie of the Book at January 10, 2024 11:58 AM (cIuz0)

305 LOOOL Hunter Biden was asked by a reporter "What kind of Crack do you Smoke"
http://tinyurl.com/2krf3avm

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at January 10, 2024 11:56 AM (dKiJG)

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"No saffron."

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 11:59 AM (bw5YC)

306 AoS will praise my name endlessly for “doing something.” Man, my job is easy.
Posted by: Gov Abbott at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (1ceyB)

Yes, because no one is ever critical of Abbott in these threads. Nope. Not ever. ESPECIALLY those who live in Texas.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 10, 2024 11:59 AM (9gDA7)

307 297 I've actually read the various secession conventions and legislative floor debates (for states that did not hold conventions). It was over slavery. Ironically, the Confederate Constitution made the Confederate government in some ways stronger than the Federal one.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (tllOr)

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It's my understanding that the "states right" argument originated with a book that Alexander Hamilton Stevens wrote after the war that was effectively just a way to try and justify the secession as something, anything, other than slavery.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 11:59 AM (GBKbO)

308 Breaking911 @Breaking911
This is the moment that Hunter Biden stormed out in the middle of a congressional hearing just as @RepMTG tries to question him

http://tinyurl.com/yzjfab6n
26 seconds

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:59 AM (2yu8s)

309 “But, Lincoln's stupidity (or he wanted a war) in handling a number of wavering slave states like Virginia, Arkansas, Tennessee, and perhaps even Georgia actually undermined any more peaceful settlement when Lincoln announced blockades, calling for troops and specifically troops from places like Virginia up to fight the original Deep South seven states.”

Indeed, any head of state who wants to crush a rebellion is stupid. Why didn’t Lincoln just respond to the secessions with “Oh. OK”.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 11:59 AM (1ceyB)

310 I wonder if Hunter Biden and Eric Holder are going to grab a drink and laugh about their contempt charges together.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 12:00 PM (Zp1WF)

311 States that did not have a large proportion of slaves in their economy were more hesitant about joining the south until Lincoln made his orders. The original seven states simply did not have the ability to resist much and some statements from their secession conventions argued that the North would never fight.
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It was not so much the number of slaves as the percentage of Tariff monies being sent to DC. The Deep South with heavy cotton was floating the Federal Government. Thus, it was a Yankee raid for funds. Exactly what you see today.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 12:00 PM (LVNnd)

312 This is the moment that Hunter Biden stormed out in the middle of a congressional hearing just as @RepMTG tries to question him

http://tinyurl.com/yzjfab6n
26 seconds
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 11:59 AM (2yu8s)

Was he yelling "MY DAD LOVES ME!!!!" as he stomped out?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 10, 2024 12:00 PM (9gDA7)

313 Reading is one thing, understanding is another.

Posted by: DOYLE at January 10, 2024 12:00 PM (Z8Yh2)

314 IIRC Abbott was/is getting monies from one of the developers of Colony Ridge.

Seems like a conflict of some sort.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 10, 2024 12:00 PM (Q4IgG)

315 Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:48 AM (tllOr)

I definitely think Dred Scott and rampant slave state expansionism to the west are overlooked as proximate causes for the war. I'm also concerned that too often those arguing State Rights ignore that no one in the confederacy had *individual* rights, except possibly the oligarchs at the top.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 10, 2024 12:00 PM (nC+QA)

316 309 Indeed, any head of state who wants to crush a rebellion is stupid. Why didn’t Lincoln just respond to the secessions with “Oh. OK”.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 11:59 AM (1ceyB)

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Eh. I'm not pro-South, but Lincoln's call for 70,000 troops is what turned most of the South against the Union. It was a sea change of opinion from, "SC being dumb again," to "The Union is a tyranny and Lincoln is its tyrant."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)

317 I'm positive 100% are here for their ballots.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

Democrats don't need them to vote- they just need them to count for redistricting. In fact, it is better if they don't vote.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 10, 2024 12:01 PM (sEuZZ)

318 Hunter's guy pal Kevin Morris looks like a rumpled, stoned mess. As Mace was berating Hunter, he actually laughed. Maybe taking an early morning bong hit isn't a great idea before showing up at a House Committee hearing.

Posted by: Cheri at January 10, 2024 12:02 PM (oiNtH)

319 I'm not pro-South, but Lincoln's call for 70,000 troops is what turned most of the South against the Union.

It might be relevant to note that the call for 75,000 troops occurred three days AFTER the attack on Ft. Sumter.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 12:02 PM (CsUN+)

320 you cannot bring them here
without bringing there here

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 10, 2024 12:03 PM (lwOKI)

321 Canada is well into the twilight zone of a post-free society.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 10, 2024 11:51 AM (k+80L)

Canada simply is not a free country (with apologies to the awesome Canadian contingent here). Their founding principles call for “peace, order and good government”. Says it all, really.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 12:03 PM (1ceyB)

322 Fuck Boeing.

My flight just got cancelled. I now get to fly through Cleveland!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 12:03 PM (gSZYf)

323
POLITICO
@politico
From Pizzagate to QAnon and now the “Epstein list,” an expert explains why sex trafficking conspiracy theories are so buzzy in MAGA circles

Buzzy?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2024 12:03 PM (63Dwl)

324 Ooops. Call for Dr Freud. Call for Dr Freud.

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 42m
JUST IN - Rep. Jayapal: “Let’s talk about the fact that President Trump incited an ERECTION.”
http://tinyurl.com/3j28r8b7

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
JUST IN - Rep. Nancy Mace: "Who bribed Hunter Biden to be here today? That's my first question. Second question, you are the epitome of white privilege...what are you afraid of? You have no balls to come up here..."

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 12:03 PM (2yu8s)

325 What kind of retard move is that by Hunter? What did he expect to accomplice? I think they were all high.

Posted by: fd at January 10, 2024 12:04 PM (vFG9F)

326 My flight just got cancelled. I now get to fly through Cleveland!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Just hold your breath.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at January 10, 2024 12:04 PM (sEuZZ)

327 324 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
JUST IN - Rep. Nancy Mace: "Who bribed Hunter Biden to be here today? That's my first question. Second question, you are the epitome of white privilege...what are you afraid of? You have no balls to come up here..."
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 12:03 PM (2yu8s)

=========

"Hunter Biden can't have white privilege! His dad was VP to Obama! That makes him practically black!"
-DU, 53% probability

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 12:04 PM (GBKbO)

328 Lincoln's call for 70,000 troops is what turned most of the South against the Union.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)

Israel's call-up of the reserves on October 8th turned most of the Arab world against them.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 12:04 PM (gSZYf)

329 I now get to fly through Cleveland!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Remember to keep your fingers together when you flap your arms, to cut down on the wind resistance.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 12:04 PM (9yWhg)

330 AoS will praise my name endlessly for “doing something.” Man, my job is easy.
Posted by: Gov Abbott at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (1ceyB)

Yes, because no one is ever critical of Abbott in these threads. Nope. Not ever. ESPECIALLY those who live in Texas.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 10, 2024 11:59 AM

Obligatory:

Hey, Abbotttttt!!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 10, 2024 12:05 PM (jA9ul)

331 A long comfortable leak on the ground under your field antenna will improve the antenna's gain.

I'll leave peaceably.
Posted by: CZ = FNG
-------
Also will promote growth of lemon trees.

Posted by: Burt Munro at January 10, 2024 12:05 PM (XeU6L)

332 States that did not have a large proportion of slaves in their economy were more hesitant about joining the south until Lincoln made his orders. The original seven states simply did not have the ability to resist much and some statements from their secession conventions argued that the North would never fight.
Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 11:57 AM (tllOr)

I found the book 1861 by Adam Goodheart enlightening, mainly as a window into all of the extensive political maneuvering that went on in 1860 and 1861 to try and avoid the war; which of course was all for naught.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 10, 2024 12:05 PM (i9ffA)

333 328 Lincoln's call for 70,000 troops is what turned most of the South against the Union.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 12:00 PM (GBKbO)

Israel's call-up of the reserves on October 8th turned most of the Arab world against them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 12:04 PM (gSZYf)

========

They're not the same conflicts, and there is documentary evidence of this happening.

It's well laid out in Bud Robertson's biography of Stonewall Jackson.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

334 " “Let’s talk about the fact that President Trump incited an ERECTION.”"

I think that has been discussed here already.

Posted by: fd at January 10, 2024 12:05 PM (vFG9F)

335 It was not so much the number of slaves as the percentage of Tariff monies being sent to DC. The Deep South with heavy cotton was floating the Federal Government. Thus, it was a Yankee raid for funds. Exactly what you see today.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 10, 2024 12:00 PM (LVNnd)

How DARE a country fight to remain cohesive???

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 12:05 PM (1ceyB)

336 Trying to make breakfast but need to get outside, high winds have left debris all over

Posted by: Skip at January 10, 2024 12:06 PM (fwDg9)

337 What kind of retard move is that by Hunter? ...I think they were all high.

Asked and answered.

Posted by: Archimedes at January 10, 2024 12:06 PM (CsUN+)

338
What kind of retard move is that by Hunter? What did he expect to accomplice? I think they were all high.
Posted by: fd

Rubbing it in their faces.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 10, 2024 12:06 PM (63Dwl)

339 What kind of retard move is that by Hunter? What did he expect to accomplice? I think they were all high.
Posted by: fd at January 10, 2024 12:04 PM

A most cromulent typo in Hunter's case.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 10, 2024 12:06 PM (jA9ul)

340 My flight just got cancelled. I now get to fly through Cleveland!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 12:03 PM (gSZYf)

The Mistake On The Lake

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 12:07 PM (1ceyB)

341 246 mmmmm.

Coffee time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:44 AM (Zp1WF)

I'm with you! Off to go get some.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan (ARiK) at January 10, 2024 12:07 PM (T+0G9)

342 A most cromulent typo in Hunter's case.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 10, 2024 12:06 PM (jA9ul)

Couldn't decide if it was a typo or a pun.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 10, 2024 12:08 PM (nC+QA)

343 mmmmm.

Coffee time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 11:44 AM (Zp1WF)

I'm with you! Off to go get some.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

Don't forget to get some for Diogenes.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 12:08 PM (9yWhg)

344 Both comments:

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
JUST IN - Reporter heard asking Hunter Biden: "Are you on crack today?"

Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
JUST IN - Reporter to Hunter Biden: “What kind of crack do you normally smoke Mr. Biden?"

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 12:09 PM (2yu8s)

345 It's taking a while for lunch time to come around.

Also I'm waiting for an eBay seller to respond to my counter offer for a post-Xmas gift for Miss Linda (a jewelry box) and a vintage pipe for me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 10, 2024 12:09 PM (J2vNu)

346 "..... surprise, is the chicken livers. They are perfect. Soft, with that mysterious, renal flavor ....."

Yes that surprise is due to the mingling of slices of kidney in with the liver!!

Posted by: Ciampino - Arrgh! I hate liver AND kidney at January 10, 2024 12:09 PM (qfLjt)

347 Give Abbott a break. He finally got things rolling on the border. He’s a real stand up guy.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2024 12:09 PM (u73oe)

348 They're not the same conflicts, and there is documentary evidence of this happening.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 12:05 PM (GBKbO)

Fort Sumter was a declaration of war. What else should Lincoln have done?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 12:09 PM (gSZYf)

349 It's my understanding that the "states right" argument originated with a book that Alexander Hamilton Stevens wrote after the war that was effectively just a way to try and justify the secession as something, anything, other than slavery.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Dunno about that book as I have never read it.
There were legitimate beefs that Southern states had with the federal government over time but one of the biggest one was over expansion of slavery to new places opened up by the LA purchase and ending the Underground Railroad funneling escaping slaves to free states in the North.

The other was over Northern financing to attempt to cause slavery rebellions in Southern States like the Nat Turner rebellion. Then there was the tariffs beef by some but ironically the antebellum South probably had its highest revenues ever for cotton during the 1850's due to expanding demand worldwide for it. Tariffs were important in the 1830's and 1840's but became less so as states began to get involved (even Southern states) in pushing railroads.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 12:10 PM (tllOr)

350 IIRC Abbott was/is getting monies from one of the developers of Colony Ridge.

Seems like a conflict of some sort.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 10, 2024 12:00 PM (Q4IgG)

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$4 million per Glenn Beck.

Posted by: ShainS -- Plagiarism is copying without attribution plus white cisheteropatriarchal skin at January 10, 2024 12:10 PM (bw5YC)

351 Give Abbott a break. He finally got things rolling on the border. He’s a real stand up guy.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 10, 2024 12:09 PM

ISWYDT.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 10, 2024 12:10 PM (jA9ul)

352 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
NEW: Republican lawmakers are now threatening to impeach Defense Secretary Austin and Attorney General Garland, as well as President Biden and Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas. - NBC

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 12:11 PM (2yu8s)

353 348 Fort Sumter was a declaration of war. What else should Lincoln have done?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 12:09 PM (gSZYf)

========

Maybe it was the right thing, but the move he made did galvanize opinion in places like Virginia against the Union and towards SC.

That's my only point, not on the justice of it. Just that the call for troops is what changed opinion across the South about the standoff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)

354 My flight just got cancelled. I now get to fly through Cleveland!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

= =

Home of the steamers!

Posted by: Victor Laslow at January 10, 2024 12:11 PM (AD14M)

355 The other was over Northern financing to attempt to cause slavery rebellions in Southern States like the Nat Turner rebellion.

I know they financed John Brown. Didn't know they financed Turner, too.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at January 10, 2024 12:11 PM (9yWhg)

356 318 Hunter's guy pal Kevin Morris looks like a rumpled, stoned mess. As Mace was berating Hunter, he actually laughed. Maybe taking an early morning bong hit isn't a great idea before showing up at a House Committee hearing.
Posted by: Cheri at January 10, 2024 12:02 PM (oiNtH)

You laugh in your enemies' faces when you know they can't touch you.

Posted by: XTC at January 10, 2024 12:11 PM (sm6Pk)

357 Abbott the Boneless

Posted by: AoSHQ Stylebook at January 10, 2024 12:11 PM (aD39U)

358 @TheInsiderPaper
NEW: Republican lawmakers are now threatening to impeach Defense Secretary Austin and Attorney General Garland, as well as President Biden and Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas. - NBC
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 12:11 PM (2yu8s)
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Why?

Just do it. Don't "threaten" or cajole. If you're gonna do it, just do it. Put on the show. I don't a preview.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 12:12 PM (Zp1WF)

359 My flight just got cancelled. I now get to fly through Cleveland!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 12:03 PM (gSZYf)
*
The Mistake On The Lake
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024

***
I liked the parts I saw, downtown, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, and glimpses of the Flats. Cleveland businesses understood the need for A/C in the summertime better than many Denver businesses did.

Of course that was in 1998.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 10, 2024 12:12 PM (J2vNu)

360 Fort Sumter was a declaration of war. What else should Lincoln have done?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 12:09 PM (gSZYf)

Not tried to reinforce the fort, as the agreement with the South had stated?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 12:12 PM (xaFKb)

361 352 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
NEW: Republican lawmakers are now threatening to impeach Defense Secretary Austin and Attorney General Garland, as well as President Biden and Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas. - NBC
Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 10, 2024 12:11 PM (2yu8s)

*turns on the dramatic echo effect*

FAILLLLLLURRRRRRRRE!
THEEEEAAAAATERRRRRRRRRR!!!

Posted by: XTC at January 10, 2024 12:12 PM (sm6Pk)

362 352

...threatening...

Tell me more.

Posted by: Floridachick at January 10, 2024 12:12 PM (Cruxl)

363 ... Maybe taking an early morning bong hit isn't a great idea before showing up at a House Committee hearing.
Posted by: Cheri at January 10, 2024 12:02 PM (oiNtH)
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Why not? It seems to me that such an act would be showing the institution and proceeding the respect they deserve.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 10, 2024 12:12 PM (Zp1WF)

364 nood hunter

Posted by: BruceWayne at January 10, 2024 12:12 PM (CIS44)

365 Looks like they want unbridled chaos.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 10, 2024 12:12 PM (R4t5M)

366 "Burgers To Blunts".

Sounds like a good business model.

Smash Burger is soooo suburban.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 10, 2024 12:12 PM (Edu7X)

367 You laugh in your enemies' faces when you know they can't touch you.
Posted by: XTC

Straight outta the Dem playbook.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 10, 2024 12:13 PM (gZ3KO)

368 201 And three more while I'm on a roll:

The seventeenth amendment is hereby repealed.

That will solve EVERYTHING, and give lazy Americans one less election to worry about. Also, Senators charged by voters with bringing home the bacon will be replaced with Senators from state governments demanding the federal government prop up profligate state spending.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 12:13 PM (1ceyB)

369 Insider Paper @TheInsiderPaper 1h
NEW: Republican lawmakers are now threatening to impeach Defense Secretary Austin and Attorney General Garland, as well as President Biden and Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas. - NBC
Posted by: andycanuck

More threats? I forgot, it's an election year.

Posted by: Cheri at January 10, 2024 12:14 PM (oiNtH)

370 > Democrats don't need them to vote- they just need them to count for redistricting. In fact, it is better if they don't vote.
Posted by: Thomas Paine
______________

Not for their vote.... for the actual ballot. Filled out by a Democrat operative. To be counted.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 10, 2024 12:14 PM (Q4IgG)

371 Has there been a world power in history that has not had multiple civil wars? The USA is the only one I can think of but we are still an infant nation.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 10, 2024 12:14 PM (MNhXM)

372 It might be relevant to note that the call for 75,000 troops occurred three days AFTER the attack on Ft. Sumter.
Posted by: Archimedes
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It might be noted that Lincoln very consciously, deliberately sent supply ships to Ft. Sumter knowing that it would promote a confrontation. Lincoln's war was not a war of emancipation, it was a war against the right of secession.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 12:14 PM (XeU6L)

373 Fort Sumter was a declaration of war. What else should Lincoln have done?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

And what difference did Fort Sumter actually make other than serving as casus belli to a reluctant North. Basically no one died directly in the bombardment, the fort was strategically useless as only semi completed, and Lincoln could have specifically directed his measures at South Carolina rather than increasing the war.

Sometimes standing on principle results in more conflict (Ukraine is an example) and death and even a wider war than intended.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 12:14 PM (tllOr)

374 360 Fort Sumter was a declaration of war. What else should Lincoln have done?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 12:09 PM (gSZYf)

Not tried to reinforce the fort, as the agreement with the South had stated?
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 10, 2024 12:12 PM (xaFKb)

Lincoln should have simply said “Oh, OK” to each secession and maybe gave a speech about how crestfallen he was at the Union falling apart and that there is nothing he could do.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 12:15 PM (1ceyB)

375 That's my only point, not on the justice of it. Just that the call for troops is what changed opinion across the South about the standoff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 10, 2024 12:11 PM (GBKbO)

I understand your point. The call for troops was the only option available to the North, and any Southerner who was paying attention should have known that was going to happen. Fort Sumter was a miscalculation.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 12:15 PM (gSZYf)

376 This was a properly, cleverly crafted and wholly unexpected dish, made with finesse and an elan that defied the surroundings, but at the same time elevated them. Ali smiled with a rare pride.

So pretentious; it reads to me like Ace writing as Thomas Friedman. I imagine him narrating Ali stabbing him as he eats the meal.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at January 10, 2024 12:15 PM (lg881)

377 It might be noted that Lincoln very consciously, deliberately sent supply ships to Ft. Sumter knowing that it would promote a confrontation. Lincoln's war was not a war of emancipation, it was a war against the right of secession.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 12:14 PM (XeU6L)

It’s funny seeing how many apologists for the Confederacy still persist.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 12:16 PM (1ceyB)

378 Are Republicans seizing and pouncing on Lloyd Austin's prostate?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 12:17 PM (XeU6L)

379 It might be noted that Lincoln very consciously, deliberately sent supply ships to Ft. Sumter knowing that it would promote a confrontation.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 12:14 PM (XeU6L)

Yes. They were running out of supplies.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 10, 2024 12:17 PM (gSZYf)

380 I found the book 1861 by Adam Goodheart enlightening, mainly as a window into all of the extensive political maneuvering that went on in 1860 and 1861 to try and avoid the war; which of course was all for naught.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Only time an abortive attempt was made to call a Convention of the States.

Posted by: whig at January 10, 2024 12:18 PM (tllOr)

381 Lincoln was proven to be totally correct in his actions IMO. He maintained the union and thus saved the world.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 10, 2024 12:19 PM (MNhXM)

382 It’s funny seeing how many apologists for the Confederacy still persist.
Posted by: Catch
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I merely point out the facts.

I would think that an unecessary war that claimed the lives of 650,000 Americans, and destroyed countless others, a war which affects us to this day, merits some objective study.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 12:20 PM (XeU6L)

383 381
I think that we are still writing that book

Posted by: Floridachick at January 10, 2024 12:20 PM (Cruxl)

384 I would think that an unecessary war that claimed the lives of 650,000 Americans, and destroyed countless others, a war which affects us to this day, merits some objective study.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 12:20 PM (XeU6L)

Is any war necessary?

As a historian, I approve of objective study.

But you are still an apologist for the Confederacy.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 12:21 PM (1ceyB)

385 the war was necessary to maintain the union. it would not have happened otherwise.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 10, 2024 12:23 PM (MNhXM)

386 Not bad. Pretty smile.

Way out of my league, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at January 10, 2024 11:43 AM (Q0kLU)

Beat her over the head with hundred dollar bills and she will come around.

Posted by: MAC V SOG at January 10, 2024 12:29 PM (P4Pk9)

387 As a historian, I approve of objective study.

But you are still an apologist for the Confederacy.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
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*?*

Where have I touted the Confederacy, aside from suggesting that the central issue was secession?

Label-flinging is not objective.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 12:31 PM (XeU6L)

388 Colony Ridge, TX has entered the post *
Posted by: ShainS

This is exactly what is going to happen to more places than just TX.
Soon in NY and IL, CA already has no enforcement of sanitation or power distribution in the San Joaquin Valley.
What is lower than 3rd World Sh*thole?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 10, 2024 12:33 PM (bS7j7)

389 The only lesson from the Civil War for today’s problems should be that many people’s loyalties and willingness to commit to war were balanced on a knife edge then and are again now.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 10, 2024 12:37 PM (jbnUc)

390 Where have I touted the Confederacy, aside from suggesting that the central issue was secession?

Label-flinging is not objective.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 10, 2024 12:31 PM (XeU6L)

Nice try, slick. You accused Lincoln of promoting confrontation at Fort Sumter, and insist there is a “right to secession” (where?). You are an apologist for the Confedeacu, who came into being via - wait for it - secession!

You seem very upset that Lincoln didn’t simply greet the news of secessions by various states by saying “Oh. OK.” Or that he tried to preserve the cohesion of the Union, which simply put I don’t get.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 10, 2024 12:37 PM (1ceyB)

391 390
No he wasn’t and isn’t. Save your’gotchas’ for a democrat.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 10, 2024 12:38 PM (jbnUc)

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