Mid-Morning Art Thread

Christ appearing to Saint Peter on the Appian Way
Annibale Carracci

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM

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1 "Albuquerque is thataway, my son!"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 04, 2024 09:30 AM (7fElN)

2 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 04, 2024 09:31 AM (T4tVD)

3 I don't think Peter was that old.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at January 04, 2024 09:31 AM (SfhV1)

4
"There's some good firewood right over there, and we're having s'mores!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 04, 2024 09:32 AM (8Z5Bd)

5 Jesus, he's ripped.

Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 09:32 AM (gmo/4)

6 Keys to the kingdom.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 04, 2024 09:33 AM (2yu8s)

7 Isn't Appian Way a brand of pizza?

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at January 04, 2024 09:33 AM (SfhV1)

8 Looks like just a leisurely stroll.

Posted by: Is this in the Bible? at January 04, 2024 09:33 AM (NBVIP)

9 Six pack Jesus

Posted by: steevy at January 04, 2024 09:33 AM (FQmDC)

10 Would hang in a church.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 04, 2024 09:33 AM (R4t5M)

11 BTW, is VIA here this morning?

Just wondering.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 04, 2024 09:33 AM (2yu8s)

12 What's in Appia?

Posted by: BignJames at January 04, 2024 09:34 AM (AwYPR)

13 Jesus: Pardon me boy, is that the Chattanooga Golgotha?

Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024 09:34 AM (gmo/4)

14 Wait, wut.... Jesus on the Appalachian Trail....

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 04, 2024 09:34 AM (Q4IgG)

15 Five fingers and toes so not AI-produced.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 04, 2024 09:34 AM (2yu8s)

16 This version of Jesus is less European and a bit more mid eastern looking. I would say he looks more Jewish but I don't know if that would offend our Jewish hordelings. I mean no offense by this.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 09:35 AM (cRrcX)

17 "Quo vadis?"

Posted by: Kris at January 04, 2024 09:35 AM (OyyDO)

18 I take it this supposed to be at night? Clearly some time between the Crucifixion and Peter's own death in Rome as a martyr during Nero's reign. Peter was supposed to be a hearty fisherman, presumably young to middle-aged, when he began to follow Jesus. But here he is white-headed and -bearded. So I'd guess this is set some years after the Resurrection.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 09:35 AM (J2vNu)

19 The proportions of that cross are way off. You're not gonna crucify anyone with that thing.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 04, 2024 09:35 AM (4I/2K)

20 By the time Jesus was carrying His cross, He was battered, beaten and bruised. Crushed, as it were, for our iniquities. This guy looks like he's headed to Planet Fitness.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at January 04, 2024 09:36 AM (SfhV1)

21 I don’t like the religious paintings where people are frightened of Jesus.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 09:36 AM (MNhXM)

22 What the....?

Looks like some weird commercial.

Your Crucifixion Cross

Don't Leave Heaven Without It!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 04, 2024 09:36 AM (nFnyb)

23 We're going to Appia. It's this way.

Posted by: Follow me at January 04, 2024 09:37 AM (NBVIP)

24 Go west, young man!

or

North to Alaska!

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 04, 2024 09:37 AM (4I/2K)

25 Saint Andrew preached the Faith in Asia Minor (Turkey) and in Scythia, east of Turkey (north of Iran). He also preached in Greece and Macedonia. He was crucified in Achaia at Patras in the year 61. Tied to an X-shaped cross after being scourged, he made the cross his pulpit and preached to the people for two days before he died. Peter was martyred under the Nero persecution in the year 67. Peter, too, was, as His Master, crucified by nails on Vatican hill. His wish to be crucified upside down, out of reverence for Jesus, and out of his profound humility, was granted. Saint Paul, the Apostle, was beheaded outside the walls of Rome on the same day as Peter.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 04, 2024 09:38 AM (2yu8s)

26 And why would Jesus be carrying that cross. It didn't go with him. Did he come back and build a new one so Peter would recognize him? Shouldn't an apostle know his Lord and Savior just by his face? This painting is confusing.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 09:39 AM (cRrcX)

27 C'mon man
morning art is supposed to be something that encourages snark

you can't snark about JHC

Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024 09:40 AM (geLO8)

28 Peter seems shocked by the lack of clothes.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 09:40 AM (eYoxG)

29 This is just before his martyrdom. I believe the story goes that Peter was leaving Rome because of Nero's persecution. On the road, he saw Christ going the opposite way. Peter asked Him, "Where are you going, Lord?"

"To be crucified again."

Peter turned around, reentered Rome and was crucified soon after.

Posted by: Kris at January 04, 2024 09:40 AM (OyyDO)

30 Pete looks askeered of Jesus.Jesus may hqve got ripped swinging that cross around.

Grammie, the Vi1a Appia was and is the main road out of Rome heading south.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 04, 2024 09:41 AM (CnLzB)

31 26 And why would Jesus be carrying that cross. It didn't go with him. Did he come back and build a new one so Peter would recognize him? Shouldn't an apostle know his Lord and Savior just by his face? This painting is confusing.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 09:39 AM (cRrcX)

On first re-encounter the Apostles didn't recognize Jesus until he revealed who he was.

The cross might be for the audience to give them a sense of the timing.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at January 04, 2024 09:41 AM (eYoxG)

32 Most Jesus and Peter paintings are of Jesus saving Peter from drowning.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 09:42 AM (MNhXM)

33 I would say he looks more Jewish but I don't know if that would offend our Jewish hordelings.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 09:35 AM (cRrcX)

I AM MORTALLY OFFENDED!

Seriously, I think they both have a classic "aquiline nose," which indicates the artist's roots in Italy.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo With A Big Jewish Nose at January 04, 2024 09:42 AM (gSZYf)

34 Grammie, the Vi1a Appia was and is the main road out of Rome heading south.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 04, 2024 09:41 AM (CnLzB)

Thank you. I don't remember if I was out that way when I visited Rome. I need to get out more.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at January 04, 2024 09:42 AM (SfhV1)

35 Reminds me. The Chosen season 4 will be in theaters soon.

Posted by: Come and see at January 04, 2024 09:42 AM (NBVIP)

36 Reminds me. The Chosen season 4 will be in theaters soon.

Posted by: Come and see at January 04, 2024 09:42 AM (NBVIP)

It's been a long wait.

Posted by: grammie winger - I don't belong here at January 04, 2024 09:43 AM (SfhV1)

37 Look at those calf muscles!

Posted by: Tuna at January 04, 2024 09:44 AM (oaGWv)

38 What's in Appia?
Posted by: BignJames at January 04, 2024

***
The Appian Way, the major road into and out of Rome, was named for an early consul, Claudius Appius.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 09:45 AM (J2vNu)

39 Jesus In The Mosh Pit...

Would Hang.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 04, 2024 09:45 AM (Edu7X)

40 Hey, remember when we walked on the water after that storm?

Posted by: Good times. Good times. at January 04, 2024 09:45 AM (NBVIP)

41 @27 you can't snark about JHC

The deuce you say. Where do you think you are?
Has trees: Art. Would hang. No Rothko.
"Never heard of him." Now on to the boobettes.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 04, 2024 09:46 AM (FCs/J)

42 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 09:46 AM (Zz0t1)

43 Is this the way to Capua?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 09:46 AM (GmPfo)

44 Why is Christ carrying the cross after coming down off the cross?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 09:47 AM (Zz0t1)

45 The question was asked......

https://youtu.be/CnzTgUc5ycc

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 09:47 AM (Zz0t1)

46 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo With A Big Jewish Nose at January 04, 2024 09:42 AM (gSZYf)

It's not exactly the nose. I'm not sure what it is. But he does look less European than middle eastern in this one. And fyi..... I have no idea what "Jewish looking" actually looks like. I've met practicing Jews who look like a standard WASP and one who was actually Japanese. Her father was Israeli and her mother was Japanese. She taught me how to write my name in Japanese.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 09:47 AM (cRrcX)

47 Christ does not skip leg day.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 09:47 AM (GmPfo)

48 Look at those calf muscles!
Posted by: Tuna at January 04, 2024 09:44 AM (oaGWv)

He doesn't skip leg day.

Go thou and do the same!

I like the Ripped Jesus portrayal. As a carpenter He's liable to have looked more like that than the spindly waif He's sometimes portrayed as.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 04, 2024 09:48 AM (nFnyb)

49 I think Annibale Carracci’s The Butcher Shop was also posted on the art thread IIRC.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 09:48 AM (MNhXM)

50 So that would be the cross he has to bear

Posted by: Smell the Glove at January 04, 2024 09:48 AM (z9oJe)

51 44 Why is Christ carrying the cross after coming down off the cross?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 09:47 AM (Zz0t1)

This is a vision of Peter many years after the Crucifixion, just before his martyrdom by Nero.

Posted by: Kris at January 04, 2024 09:49 AM (OyyDO)

52 I has to be post-crucifixion, as he's wearing the crown of thorns and has the wound on his chest from the spear.

Posted by: Some nobody at January 04, 2024 09:49 AM (m0WlR)

53 The Appian Way was created during/After the first Samnite war to better ferry troops and material.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 09:49 AM (GmPfo)

54 So that would be the cross he has to bear
----
And foreshadowing.

Posted by: andycanuck (2yu8s) at January 04, 2024 09:49 AM (2yu8s)

55 Peter's reaction is more like that given to a bum in San Francisco asking for change.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 04, 2024 09:50 AM (JCZqz)

56
This is a vision of Peter many years after the Crucifixion, just before his martyrdom by Nero.
Posted by: Kris at January 04, 2024 09:49 AM (OyyDO)

And there you go.

Thanks!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 09:50 AM (Zz0t1)

57 This is just before his martyrdom. I believe the story goes that Peter was leaving Rome because of Nero's persecution. On the road, he saw Christ going the opposite way. Peter asked Him, "Where are you going, Lord?"

"To be crucified again."

Peter turned around, reentered Rome and was crucified soon after.
Posted by: Kris at January 04, 2024 09:40 AM (OyyDO)

Ah, the foundation of the Hope/Crosby "Road" movies.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 04, 2024 09:50 AM (4I/2K)

58 Set that tiny cross deep enough in ground to hold the weight of a man and it's about 2 feet high. Should be carrying it reversed and sliding about 15 feet of post behind him not slung over the shoulder like an umbrella, but otherwise nice job.

Posted by: Son of Dad at January 04, 2024 09:51 AM (8JB5s)

59 "... I have no idea what "Jewish looking" actually looks like."

Neither do I.

Posted by: Ivanka Trump at January 04, 2024 09:51 AM (NBVIP)

60 This is just before his martyrdom. I believe the story goes that Peter was leaving Rome because of Nero's persecution. On the road, he saw Christ going the opposite way. Peter asked Him, "Where are you going, Lord?"

"To be crucified again."

Peter turned around, reentered Rome and was crucified soon after.
Posted by: Kris at January 04, 2024

***
That sounds right, Kris, though I had not heard that story. The tradition is that Peter was crucified (head downward, I think?) during Nero's persecutions.

I don't believe Nero had anything personal against the new sect, the Christians. He needed a scapegoat for the terrible fire that swept Rome during his reign. (No, he didn't "fiddle" while Rome burned. The fiddle hadn't been invented yet. But the story goes that he did play the lyre and sing a tragic song, possibly his own composition, while the fire was going.) (He also provided shelter for citizens whose homes had burned -- so he wasn't all bad.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 09:51 AM (J2vNu)

61 What's an Appian Way?

'bout 20 lbs, same as in town

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 04, 2024 09:51 AM (sJHOI)

62 Painting is a reference to the Apocryphal Acts of Peter where Peter has a vision of Christ carrying the cross during Nero's persecution of Christians. Peter returns to Rome and he is crucified there.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 09:52 AM (RSbhh)

63 I don't believe Nero had anything personal against the new sect, the Christians. He needed a scapegoat for the terrible fire that swept Rome during his reign. (No, he didn't "fiddle" while Rome burned. The fiddle hadn't been invented yet. But the story goes that he did play the lyre and sing a tragic song, possibly his own composition, while the fire was going.) (He also provided shelter for citizens whose homes had burned -- so he wasn't all bad.)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 09:51 AM (J2vNu

That must have been before the Matrix.

Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 09:52 AM (MNhXM)

64 The Appian Way was created during/After the first Samnite war to better ferry troops and material.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024

***
Much like the idea behind our Interstate system.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 09:52 AM (J2vNu)

65 Ah, the foundation of the Hope/Crosby "Road" movies.
Posted by: Count de Monet at January 04, 2024 09:50 AM (4I/2K)

The song and dance number at the colosseum was amazeballs!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 09:52 AM (cRrcX)

66 "Jesus Peter, do I have to show you everything. Rome is that way. You probably won't like how it ends though."

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at January 04, 2024 09:53 AM (sX1BW)

67 Perhaps Jesus is encouraging Peter to take up his own cross and to be brave. Christ is offering to walk the road back to persecution and death with Peter.

"This is the road you must travel. I will walk with you."

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 04, 2024 09:53 AM (n+hRS)

68 Ah, the foundation of the Hope/Crosby "Road" movies.
Posted by: Count de Monet

Hmmm...was that before or after the collaborative work with Stills and Nash?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 04, 2024 09:54 AM (JCZqz)

69 And the persecution continues today with the Christians being slaughtered by muslhams in Africa on a seemingly daily basis.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 09:54 AM (Zz0t1)

70 I would be shocked to see Jesus carrying around a cross after his resurrection, too. I mean -- put it down, man. "It is finished" and all that.

Posted by: red speck at January 04, 2024 09:55 AM (0Id0S)

71 I would be shocked to see Jesus carrying around a cross after his resurrection, too. I mean -- put it down, man. "It is finished" and all that.
Posted by: red speck at January 04, 2024 09:55 AM (0Id0S)

And that one seems a bit small........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 09:55 AM (Zz0t1)

72 So, before Garmin then?

Posted by: Thanks patriarchy! at January 04, 2024 09:55 AM (NBVIP)

73 Peter probably carried a hefty amount of what we term survivors guilt. That he should have done more, but additionally, that he should not have denied Christ three times. His faith was found wanting and that probably haunted him.

So Christ appearing probably would have scared the crap out of him and also, steeled his resolve to not do the same again. If his faith demanded his death, then so be it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 09:56 AM (GmPfo)

74 70 I would be shocked to see Jesus carrying around a cross after his resurrection, too. I mean -- put it down, man. "It is finished" and all that.
Posted by: red speck

Unlike the GOPe, Jesus found a hill to die on.

Posted by: Golgotha at January 04, 2024 09:57 AM (JCZqz)

75
Suite: Judy's Gazongas

was a biggest hit.

And what a hit they were. Rrrrowr!!!

Posted by: Hope, Crosby, Nash and Young at January 04, 2024 09:57 AM (nFnyb)

76 Wee Man or Peter Dinklage would fit on that cross.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 04, 2024 09:58 AM (R4t5M)

77 60 >>He also provided shelter for citizens whose homes had burned -- so he wasn't all bad.

He tied Christians to posts and lit them on fire, so the bad parts were pretty frickin bad.

Posted by: red speck at January 04, 2024 09:58 AM (0Id0S)

78 Kyrie eleison, down the road that I must travel
Kyrie eleison, through the darkness of the night
Kyrie eleison, where I'm going, will you follow?
Kyrie eleison, on a highway in the light

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 09:59 AM (cRrcX)

79 Interesting painting both for subject matter and technique. Carracci's style is realistic compared to the more wooden figures I see from this period and the colors are natural, not overly bright. That emphasizes the figures in the scene even though the objects and landscape are also realistic. It works for me.

I like the way Christ is portrayed: resurrected and restored to glory even though bearing the marks of being crucified. Saint Peter, with the keys to the kingdom, startled by Christ's appearance and realizing what he must do.

Posted by: JTB at January 04, 2024 09:59 AM (7EjX1)

80 Giant cross was the hobo's bag on a stick of the ancient world. Probably run into half a dozen guys like this on the daily Appian commute.

Posted by: It wasn't till the Renaissance that they thought of a smaller stick at January 04, 2024 09:59 AM (pjs7m)

81 Nero not all bad? The guy had his mama killed.

Posted by: BignJames at January 04, 2024 09:59 AM (AwYPR)

82 Wee Man or Peter Dinklage would fit on that cross.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 04, 2024 09:58 AM (R4t5M)

You bastard! Why I'll give your ankle such a pinch!!!

Posted by: Peter Dicklage at January 04, 2024 10:00 AM (nFnyb)

83 Excellent use of primary colors !

Posted by: runner at January 04, 2024 10:00 AM (V13WU)

84 There is an interesting discussion of this picture on the Khan Academy site. I can't figure out how to copy the link. I found it be searching "Peter meets Jesus on the Appian Way" in Safari.

Posted by: Oglebay at January 04, 2024 10:01 AM (ogTiX)

85 81 Nero not all bad? The guy had his mama killed.
Posted by: BignJames at January 04, 2024 09:59 AM (AwYPR)

Also kicked his pregnant wife to death.

He was a shitty human.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 10:01 AM (GmPfo)

86 To be fair, Agripina the Younger (his mother) was no peach.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 10:02 AM (GmPfo)

87 84 There is an interesting discussion of this picture on the Khan Academy site. I can't figure out how to copy the link. I found it be searching "Peter meets Jesus on the Appian Way" in Safari.
Posted by: Oglebay at January 04, 2024 10:01 AM (ogTiX)

Khan Academy has an excellent art/art history program. I recommend it.

Posted by: Kris at January 04, 2024 10:02 AM (OyyDO)

88 Have you heard about this new sect, the Christians?

Why they're so poor, they only have one god!

Posted by: Comicus at January 04, 2024 10:03 AM (4I/2K)

89 He also provided shelter for citizens whose homes had burned -- so he wasn't all bad.

He tied Christians to posts and lit them on fire, so the bad parts were pretty frickin bad.
Posted by: red speck at January 04, 2024 09:58 AM (0Id0S)

Yeah, that's a bit like.

Hitler loved dogs. He wasn't all bad.

I think we can still consider these type of folk "all bad".

Posted by: naturalfake at January 04, 2024 10:03 AM (nFnyb)

90 He was a shitty human.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson

For very very loose definition of "human".

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 10:03 AM (cRrcX)

91 Why they're so poor, they only have one god!
Posted by: Comicus at January 04, 2024 10:03 AM (4I/2K)

*golfclap*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 10:03 AM (GmPfo)

92 No bewbs.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 10:04 AM (LVNnd)

93 For very very loose definition of "human".
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 10:03 AM (cRrcX)

Of course he was human. Humans can be supremely shitty.

Why do you think we needed Christ?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 10:05 AM (GmPfo)

94 Why they're so poor, they only have one god!
Posted by: Comicus at January 04, 2024 10:03 AM (4I/2K)

*golfclap*
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson

Thank you, thank you...I'll be here all week. Try the garum!

Posted by: MARCVS RISVS at January 04, 2024 10:05 AM (JCZqz)

95 Nero had the misfortune to be the last emperor of a particular dynasty (Juilio-Claudians). So some of the poor-mouthing has to be taken with a grain of salt. The Flavians and their court followers had good reason to blacken his name. And the same sort of thing is probably in play when Domitian rounds out their dynasty.

Posted by: that they thought of a smaller stick at January 04, 2024 10:05 AM (pjs7m)

96
Of course he was human. Humans can be supremely shitty.

Why do you think we needed Christ?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 10:05 AM (GmPfo)

See: Global Leadership of today

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 10:05 AM (Zz0t1)

97 Nero not all bad? The guy had his mama killed.
Posted by: BignJames at January 04, 2024

***
Possibly because he was afraid she'd kill him if he didn't toe her line. Remember, she'd murdered her husband and uncle Claudius (the I, Claudius guy) and probably Claudius's son Britannicus so Nero, her own child, could get the throne. Agrippina the Younger was no sweet, well-upholstered Italian matron urging you to have another helping of spaghetti and meatballs, "Eat, eat, you're as thin as a rail!"; oh, no.

He tried several times to kill her -- arranged for her bedroom ceiling to collapse, and then sent her out for a cruise on a ship designed to fall apart. She survived both. I think he finally had her stabbed or strangled.

Nero was a narcissist and a headstrong, spoiled brat, but I doubt he was a savage sociopath in the sense we know today.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:05 AM (J2vNu)

98 Morning.

The J-Man is like, "I'm meeting some people at the Waffle House, come with me!"

Posted by: Robert at January 04, 2024 10:06 AM (QBioX)

99 Nero had the misfortune to be the last emperor of a particular dynasty (Juilio-Claudians). So some of the poor-mouthing has to be taken with a grain of salt. The Flavians and their court followers had good reason to blacken his name. And the same sort of thing is probably in play when Domitian rounds out their dynasty.
Posted by: that they thought of a smaller stick at January 04, 2024

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Yes; Nero was always popular in the provinces, in contrast to the way he was thought of at Rome.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:06 AM (J2vNu)

100 But what have the Romans ever done for us?

Posted by: Monty Python at January 04, 2024 10:07 AM (NBVIP)

101 were there any virtuous Romans

Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024 10:07 AM (geLO8)

102 The apostles fear was overcome shortly after the resurrection when they saw, and then recognized Him, for who He was.
After that they became absolute lions for the Gospel.

And "It is finished", as stated above, indeed.
Sadly there are many to this day who put Him back on the cross over and over and over again.

Posted by: Teej at January 04, 2024 10:07 AM (9jZWY)

103 100 But what have the Romans ever done for us?

.. they showed us how to make roads that last, which we ignored

Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 10:08 AM (RHGPo)

104 Rome was a fascinating, yet awful place. If that makes sense.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 04, 2024 10:08 AM (R4t5M)

105 The Walt Disney Company lost its top spot at the global box office in 2023 as the studio experienced an unprecedented string of woke flops, including The Marvels, Wish, and the latest Indiana Jones sequel.

For the past seven years, Disney has reigned supreme thanks in large part to its Marvel and Pixar brands. But this year, Universal took the No. 1 spot, propelled by The Super Mario Bros. Movie and Oppenheimer.

Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 10:08 AM (RHGPo)

106 BabylonBee: Claudine Gay Claims White Supremacists Went Back In Time And Forced Her To Plagiarize At Gunpoint

Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 10:08 AM (RHGPo)

107 A spokesman for Bill Clinton tried to distance the former president from Epstein. He said Clinton hasn't spoken with Epstein for more than four years.

Of course, Clinton hasn't spoken with Epstein for more than four years because Epstein died August 10, 2019, more than four years ago

Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 10:08 AM (RHGPo)

108 Nero not all bad? The guy had his mama killed.
Posted by: BignJames at January 04, 2024 09:59 AM (AwYPR)

Also kicked his pregnant wife to death.

He was a shitty human.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024

***
Yeah, I'd forgotten about that part. Poppaea, I think her name was.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:08 AM (J2vNu)

109 92 No bewbs.
Posted by: Pudinhead

This is an important shortcoming to rectify. http://tinyurl.com/4z2jusvs

They're real, and they're spectacular!

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at January 04, 2024 10:09 AM (JCZqz)

110 >.. they showed us how to make roads that last, which we ignored

Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 10:08 AM (RHGPo)

*fist bump*

Posted by: Penn Dot at January 04, 2024 10:09 AM (NgqoH)

111 The problem is that we're not crazy /evil enough!

Biden Campaign Staff in Revolt, Demand Pressure on Israel to Release Prisoners, Cite "Electoral Imperative"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 10:09 AM (FVME7)

112
And "It is finished", as stated above, indeed.
Sadly there are many to this day who put Him back on the cross over and over and over again.
Posted by: Teej at January 04, 2024 10:07 AM (9jZWY)

I remember back when the answer to an obvious question was "Is the Pope Catholic?"

Now? That's not so obvious. I don't think this Pope has even cracked The Bible.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 10:09 AM (Zz0t1)

113 Dole Office Clerk: Occupation?
Comicus: Stand-up philosopher.
Dole Office Clerk: What?
Comicus: Stand-up philosopher. I coalesce the vapors of human experience into a viable and meaningful comprehension.
Dole Office Clerk: Oh, a *bullshit* artist!
Comicus: *Grumble*...
Dole Office Clerk: Did you bullshit last week?
Comicus: No.
Dole Office Clerk: Did you *try* to bullshit last week?
Comicus: Yes!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 10:09 AM (cRrcX)

114 But this year, Universal took the No. 1 spot, propelled by The Super Mario Bros. Movie and Oppenheimer.
Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 10:08 AM (RHGPo)

I finally watched the Mario movie a few weeks ago.

The plot is as thin as you can imagine but it was pretty fun. It's just fan service piled on top of fan service. It's great!

Posted by: Robert at January 04, 2024 10:10 AM (QBioX)

115 "After that they became absolute lions for the Gospel."

*Polite cough*

Posted by: Pentecost at January 04, 2024 10:10 AM (NBVIP)

116 But what have the Romans ever done for us?

.. they showed us how to make roads that last, which we ignored
Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024

***
Concrete. Inspiration for the U.S. Constitution. Latin = medical and taxonomic terminology, and the core of English (mostly via French, which I'll forgive them for).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:10 AM (J2vNu)

117 101 were there any virtuous Romans
Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024 10:07 AM (geLO

Trajan was a good egg. Publius Publicoa was a decent man. Marcus Aurelius was a good man. The Romans were a mixed bag- just like all people.

Heroes and villains. Saints and Devils.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 10:11 AM (GmPfo)

118 Little know fact that throughout Jesus life he carried around a cross, good exercise.

Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2024 10:11 AM (fwDg9)

119 were there any virtuous Romans
Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024 10:07 AM (geLO

Constantine?

Posted by: Titanium White at January 04, 2024 10:11 AM (MNhXM)

120
... Publius Publicoa was a decent man....

The Boaty McBoatface of Ancient Rome.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 04, 2024 10:12 AM (nFnyb)

121 Ackbar has his own version of King Biscuit Flour Hour.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 04, 2024 10:12 AM (R4t5M)

122 Poppaea, I think her name was.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:08 AM (J2vNu)

Popea(sp?) Sabina, I think?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 10:12 AM (GmPfo)

123 "oh, its up that way a piece"

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 04, 2024 10:13 AM (VwHCD)

124 "oh, its up that way a piece"
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 04, 2024 10:13 AM (VwHCD)

"Yonder."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 10:14 AM (Zz0t1)

125 Constantine is a... complex dude. He had his own son, Crispus put to death, then murdered his wife when he realized she had framed Crispus for plotting against Constantine.

There was a reason Constantine waited until the very end to be baptized. He believed, but he was also kind of an asshole.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 10:14 AM (GmPfo)

126 were there any virtuous Romans
Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024

***
During the Republic, sure. Fabius the Delayer, who devised the strategy for keeping Hannibal from destroying the entire Roman army. Horatius at the bridge (though he might be only a legend). Cincinnatus, who left his plow, took up the mantle of dictator, whipped the immediate threat, and went back to his farm.

During the Empire, virtuous Romans were thin on the ground. Maybe Germanicus, Caligula's father. Marcus Aurelius, possibly (though he was deluded into thinking his son Commodus would make a good emperor).

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:15 AM (J2vNu)

127 119 were there any virtuous Romans
Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024 10:07 AM (geLO

Constantine?
Posted by: Titanium White

Where do we draw the line under the "Washington had slaves" precedent? As Sargon of Akkad referenced, morality evolveed and developed just like technology and other aspects of civilization. The Roman empire had several destabikizing religions and cults rise up, and persecution was the norm of the day. They were somewhat tolerant of multiculturalism, as long as citizens submitted to the primary Roman cultural tenants.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 04, 2024 10:15 AM (JCZqz)

128 The Boaty McBoatface of Ancient Rome.

Posted by: naturalfake at January 04, 2024 10:12 AM (nFnyb)

Publius did not start out P Publicoa. He earned the cognomen by being, well a 'friend of the people.' I cannot remember his family name. Valerius, maybe?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 10:16 AM (GmPfo)

129 A quick google survey shows no real interest on Annibale's part in depicting bewbies. This show his feeble imagining of Aphrodite's, http://bit.ly/powers1960

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 04, 2024 10:16 AM (CnLzB)

130 There used to be a Jewish Japanese woman that I'd read posts from on the lace knitting groups. She lived in Jerusalem and I think her name was Avital? Did beautiful lace on sewing thread. Wonder if it's the person you knew?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 04, 2024 10:17 AM (L8hCM)

131 Kruiser calls J6 the Dem High Holy day. Strikes me as very accurate.

Posted by: steevy at January 04, 2024 10:18 AM (FQmDC)

132 St. Peter did it the Appian Way?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2024 10:18 AM (xMsrS)

133 124 "oh, its up that way a piece"
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 04, 2024 10:13 AM (VwHCD)

"Yonder."
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at January 04, 2024 10:14 AM (Zz0t1)

Take a right where the whitewashed sepulcher used to be

Posted by: And just past the red stable what burnt down at January 04, 2024 10:18 AM (2D6XU)

134 Lithium-Ion Battery Fire Burns in Cargo Ship’s Hold for Days Off Alaskan Coast

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Does anyone know where the love of God goes
When the lithium fire burns for months, weeks, and hours?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 10:18 AM (FVME7)

135 I think we are more or less fools to think we can know who was a good person in the ancient world, as opposed to good for the empire or good in some other historically evaluable sense. We have difficulty deciding which contemporaries are good men. Man has not become more honest since, and there's an ocean of time separating us from the ancients and the evidence. Then there's hindsight bias: many of them would not share our sense of goodness at any rate. That doesn't make them right. But always applying our measuring stick leads to the same kind of tunnel vision the left suffers from when evaluating historical figures.

Posted by: "I don't know" is a reasonable answer we never settle for at January 04, 2024 10:19 AM (pjs7m)

136
Vivek Ramaswamy on piano is pretty impressive. He says:

My piano teacher as a kid gave me a biography of Ronald Reagan & told me to read it. 20 years later, I’m playing one of her favorite pieces on the campaign trail in Iowa.

https://t.ly/2Vujk

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 10:19 AM (3qE2b)

137 Nope. Girl I knew was named Megumi. She was from Japan. I presume she returned to Japan after college.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 10:20 AM (cRrcX)

138 School shooting in Perry, Iowa this morning. Wonder if it'll make national news...especially with the CNN debates and caucuses coming up.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 04, 2024 10:21 AM (JCZqz)

139 I like Vivek. I think we need fewer professional politicians in office. But I don't want him as VP. I want him in a position to crush the bureaucracy.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 04, 2024 10:21 AM (L8hCM)

140 You won't believe this, but I got turned around on my way to the Crucifixion. Is it that way?

--JC

Posted by: No Name Today at January 04, 2024 10:22 AM (vlXMQ)

141 Megumi means love, affection, favor.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2024 10:22 AM (xMsrS)

142 Excuse me sir but I seem to have lost my pogo stick.

Posted by: Jesus at January 04, 2024 10:22 AM (2D6XU)

143 "Quo vadis?"
Posted by: Kris at January 04, 2024 09:35 AM (OyyDO)

Romam vado iterum crucifigi

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 04, 2024 10:23 AM (aD39U)

144 CrossFit
Posted by: And the workout of the day is

I'm going to hell for laughing at that.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 04, 2024 10:23 AM (3bWKb)

145 Yonder lies the mansion of my father. It has many rooms. - JC

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 04, 2024 10:23 AM (4I/2K)

146 So you want him to Vivek-sect the government?

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2024 10:23 AM (xMsrS)

147 Jesus, he's ripped.

Posted by: Archer at January 04, 2024
*
CrossFit
Posted by: And the workout of the day is... at January 04, 2024

***
It couldn't have been that. He'd have spent all of his time on Earth talking about the benefits of CrossFit workouts.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:23 AM (J2vNu)

148 So, more than one Jewish Japanese girl

. Avital was married to a Jewish man and they had a baby boy. Likely been 30 years simce I've read a post from her.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 04, 2024 10:23 AM (L8hCM)

149
No dog. Not art.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 04, 2024 10:24 AM (MoZTd)

150 Vivek Ramaswamy on piano is pretty impressive. He says:

My piano teacher as a kid gave me a biography of Ronald Reagan & told me to read it. 20 years later, I’m playing one of her favorite pieces on the campaign trail in Iowa.

https://t.ly/2Vujk

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 10:19 AM (3qE2b)

Damn impressive. He wasn't even looking at the music.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 04, 2024 10:25 AM (VwHCD)

151 @115 - Pentecost

Point taken. They did however do as He instructed to wait for that event. An event that, by the way, fulfilled the fourth spring Feast on its appointed day.
Christ did the same with His death (Passover), burial (Unleavened Bread) and resurrection (First Fruits) on their appointed days.

Next up, Feast of Trumpets. The first fall Feast.
At some point during the 2nd half of the 70th week of Daniel, the last Trump will sound. Christ will be seen coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. The church will be raptured and, well, ya don't want to still be on this planet when that 7th seal is broken and the large scroll opened.

Posted by: Teej at January 04, 2024 10:25 AM (9jZWY)

152 Yonder lies the castle of my fodder

Posted by: Rhennigantx at January 04, 2024 10:25 AM (/MFsk)

153 So, Peter. Whaaaat's happening.

Posted by: Jesus "Bill" Lumbergh at January 04, 2024 10:25 AM (2D6XU)

154 Avital

Posted by: Notsothoreau at January 04, 2024 10:23 AM (L8hCM)

sounds like a prescription drug

Posted by: BignJames at January 04, 2024 10:25 AM (AwYPR)

155 I like Ramaswamy. He would be a great VP choice for Trump.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 10:25 AM (cRrcX)

156 "Albuquerque is thataway, my son!"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 04, 2024 09:30 AM (7fElN)

Albuquerque is fine but do I turn there or continue straight? -- Bugs Bunny

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 04, 2024 10:26 AM (zhLdt)

157 103 100 But what have the Romans ever done for us?

.. they showed us how to make roads that last, which we ignored
---------------
The Persians were way ahead of the Romans but that Alexander guy fucked things up.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 10:26 AM (pZ64F)

158 they showed us how to make roads that last

1. Don't build them where there is frost.
2. No semis. Or demis.
3. Moar slave labour.

Nothing to it, really.
I'm sure the Autobahn is coming right up here.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 04, 2024 10:26 AM (FCs/J)

159 Thursday was the first day of school after winter break, according to the school's calendar.

Police officers were dispatched to the scene on Thursday morning after receiving a report of an active shooter, the Perry Police Department confirmed. Multiple EMS vehicles were sent to the scene at 1200 18th Street, according to public safety radio traffic.

Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 10:27 AM (RHGPo)

160 If you are allergic to Avital please stop taking Avital.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 04, 2024 10:27 AM (xMsrS)

161 So, Peter. Whaaaat's happening.
Posted by: Jesus "Bill" Lumbergh at January 04, 2024 10:25 AM (2D6XU)

*wiping off keyboard*

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 04, 2024 10:27 AM (4I/2K)

162 Do not take Avital if you are allergic to Avital.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 04, 2024 10:27 AM (R4t5M)

163 Wow.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 04, 2024 10:28 AM (R4t5M)

164
Vivek Ramaswamy’s performance of Rondo alla turca, the third movement from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart's Piano Sonata No. 11.

That was the piece he was playing and why he's not right for America. If he wants my vote he has to play Appalachian Spring from Aaron Copeland.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 10:28 AM (3qE2b)

165 >Do not take Avital if you are allergic to Avital.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

I'm on Dammitol

Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024 10:28 AM (geLO8)

166 Vietnamese Navajo President Lays Claim to the Moon

-
Wait! The Navajo conquered Vietnam? I guess they wanted to use every part of the water buffalo.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 10:29 AM (FVME7)

167 165 I'm on Dammitol
Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024 10:28 AM (geLO

Congress of Wonders/Firesign Theater fan, I see!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 04, 2024 10:29 AM (x0n13)

168 but I really should be on Fucitol

Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024 10:30 AM (geLO8)

169 If he wants my vote he has to play Appalachian Spring from Aaron Copeland.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 10:28 AM (3qE2b)

One of my favorites

Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 10:30 AM (n2vyf)

170 Vietnamese Navajo President Lays Claim to the Moon

-
Wait! The Navajo conquered Vietnam? I guess they wanted to use every part of the water buffalo.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 10:29 AM (FVME7)

This guy is pho-king nuts.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 04, 2024 10:30 AM (R4t5M)

171 156 "Albuquerque is thataway, my son!"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at January 04, 2024 09:30 AM (7fElN)

Albuquerque is fine but do I turn there or continue straight? -- Bugs Bunny
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at January 04, 2024 10:26 AM (zhLdt)

Pismo Beach . . . Hassan chop!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 04, 2024 10:30 AM (x0n13)

172 primary Roman cultural tenants.

Dammit, you were doing so well right up until then.
Everyone in Rome was a tenant, I guess you could say.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 04, 2024 10:31 AM (FCs/J)

173 That's comedian Nick di Paolo on the right.

Posted by: fly gal at January 04, 2024 10:31 AM (6CtMt)

174 My piano teacher as a kid gave me a biography of Ronald Reagan & told me to read it. 20 years later, I’m playing one of her favorite pieces on the campaign trail in Iowa.

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Honkey Cat?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 10:31 AM (FVME7)

175 Titus, Vespasian's older son and emperor after him, was a pretty good dude. His army destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem when V. crushed the Jewish revolt in 70. He'd served as Praetorian prefect (chief of secret police too) for his father, and Romans thought he'd be as bad as Caligula had been. But he finished the Colosseum (I think), made a point of doing a favor for at least one person every day, sent aid to the Pompeii area after Vesuvius erupted, and other admirable work.

When he died, he said, "I have but one sin on my conscience" -- and then didn't say what it was! Damn!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:31 AM (J2vNu)

176 Trump’s lawyers ask Judge Chutkan to consider contempt of court charge against Special Counsel Jack Smith for defying stay order on Jan 6 trial. Smith continues to file motions while case is on hold awaiting immunity ruling

Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 10:32 AM (RHGPo)

177 174 My piano teacher as a kid gave me a biography of Ronald Reagan & told me to read it. 20 years later, I’m playing one of her favorite pieces on the campaign trail in Iowa.
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Why would you take piano lessons from a kid?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 10:32 AM (pZ64F)

178 If he wants my vote he has to play Appalachian Spring from Aaron Copeland.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 10:28 AM (3qE2b)

If he wants my vote, he has to play the Tom & Jerry piano concert songs. Or a Victor Borge set.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 04, 2024 10:32 AM (4I/2K)

179 I like the colors of the robes in contrast to the muted colors of the background.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 10:33 AM (RSbhh)

180 >When he died, he said, "I have but one sin on my conscience" -- and then didn't say what it was! Damn!

maybe it was that destroying the Temple thing

Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024 10:33 AM (geLO8)

181 Posted by: Teej at January 04, 2024 10:25 AM (9jZWY)

The fulfillment of those prophesies is why some believe that Christ's birth was on Succoth in the fall. It is, after all, the feast celebrating when God was literally with man as the Hebrew tribes traveled through the desert in Exodus.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 04, 2024 10:33 AM (nC+QA)

182 Do
You ever get the feeling we're being had? I mean, some of this crap is so stupid, it can't possibly be taken seriously. Will things continue ie to get stupider and stupider until we just boil, like the proverbial frog? Or does someone actually call this shit out, jump out of the pot and fling it off the stove?

Jeepers.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 04, 2024 10:33 AM (3bWKb)

183
My piano teacher as a kid gave me a biography of Ronald Reagan

I wonder if it was the one written by Peggy Noonan? If so, not right for America.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 10:33 AM (3qE2b)

184 Posted by: Divide by Zero

If he can't play The Entertainer by Joplin, he's right out!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 10:35 AM (cRrcX)

185 73 Peter probably carried a hefty amount of what we term survivors guilt. That he should have done more, but additionally, that he should not have denied Christ three times. His faith was found wanting and that probably haunted him.

So Christ appearing probably would have scared the crap out of him and also, steeled his resolve to not do the same again. If his faith demanded his death, then so be it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson work phone at January 04, 2024 09:56 AM (GmPfo)

For us grace type Christians, Peter is perfect example of imperfect Christians - Peter had doubts. He turned his back on Jesus, who was not notional to Peter. He knew for a fact that he was a real person, had witnessed the miracles in person. And yet - he was the Rock upon which Christ built his church.

Posted by: blaster at January 04, 2024 10:35 AM (IFNME)

186 hate this

Mass shooting with 'multiple victims' at Iowa High School as students returned for their first day after winter break

Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024 10:36 AM (geLO8)

187 Christ to St. Peter "GTFO"?

Posted by: TC at January 04, 2024 10:36 AM (FjlUt)

188 If he wants my vote he has to play Appalachian Spring from Aaron Copeland.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 10:28 AM (3qE2b)

If he wants my vote, he has to play the Tom & Jerry piano concert songs. Or a Victor Borge set.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 04, 2024 10:32 AM (4I/2K)

...and on Schroeder's toy piano.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 04, 2024 10:36 AM (VwHCD)

189 Mass shooting with 'multiple victims' at Iowa High School as students returned for their first day after winter break
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I guess someone didn't get what he wanted for XMAS.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 10:36 AM (pZ64F)

190 I don't believe you can avitol.

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2024 10:37 AM (AN/rm)

191 were there any virtuous Romans
Posted by: Don Black at January 04, 2024

***
Oh, and there was the Roman general who was captured by the Carthaginians during the first war with them. He gave his word that he would take their terms to Rome and then return. According to the story, he presented the terms to the Senate; they rejected the proposal; and true to his word, he went back to Carthage and was executed.

Yes, it might have been a story told to schoolchildren decades and centuries later. Even if it were not true, it shows that the Romans (once) valued upholding one's word -- that such values were to be instilled in children, instead of the idea that one can change sex by saying so.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:37 AM (J2vNu)

192 176 Trump’s lawyers ask Judge Chutkan to consider contempt of court charge against Special Counsel Jack Smith for defying stay order on Jan 6 trial. Smith continues to file motions while case is on hold awaiting immunity ruling
Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 10:32 AM (RHGPo)

Smith says rules are for little people.

Posted by: blaster at January 04, 2024 10:37 AM (IFNME)

193 The subject of this painting, Jesus, is pointing toward Palestine, whilst discussing the plight of the Palestinian refugees, of which he was recently one.

The other subject, one Peter, is recoiling in horror over the unfolding Climate Crisis, which will consume humanity in a little over two thousand years.

Posted by: J. Random Progressive at January 04, 2024 10:38 AM (a3Q+t)

194 Note Vivek is playing a Baldwin. Very smart politician.

Other presidents who played piano:
Harry Truman (you know this one, right?)
Richard Nixon, who once sat in with the MJQ.
If we're defending Nero (not Peter Nero, dammit), I might as well say it: except for politics, Nixon was kind of a cool guy, in the jazz sense of the word.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 04, 2024 10:38 AM (FCs/J)

195
I guess someone didn't get what he wanted for XMAS.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 10:36 AM

Sorta like the year I got a pocket protector and slide rule in my stocking, but with a lot less carnage.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 10:39 AM (3qE2b)

196 The border crisis is not Joe Biden's fault end of story. The people @ the border are because of hunger, crime, gangs, climate change, and corruption not Joe Biden.

Btw V.P. Harris has been working on real solutions with central and South American governments.
Btw part 2 America will become a brown nation and nothing will stop that.

On top of that, the governor of Texas is very welcoming with free bus rides and free flights. (Are some of you Morons over there trolling DU lol?)

This entire exercise is just a Fox News PR stunt. MAGA Congress people aren't there to do any actual work, they're just glorified content creators for Fox News hosts.

the House is under GOP control thanx to gerrymandering too. Despite the American flags and their blather about liberty and democracy their game is about the minority controlling the majority.

I think a lot of them come here because every time a republican gets in front of a microphone or camera they say Biden has an open border policy.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 04, 2024 10:40 AM (JCZqz)

197 And if this portrait is realistic, Signor Caracci was a nice looking man:

http://tinyurl.com/2wzzecp4

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 10:40 AM (RSbhh)

198 189 Mass shooting with 'multiple victims' at Iowa High School as students returned for their first day after winter break
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Get ready for the gun control ghouls

Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 10:40 AM (n2vyf)

199
I've always liked Peter. He was such a screw-up and was always wrong, yet Christ made him the head of His Church. Gives a guy hope.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 04, 2024 10:40 AM (MoZTd)

200 Do
You ever get the feeling we're being had? I mean, some of this crap is so stupid, it can't possibly be taken seriously. Will things continue ie to get stupider and stupider until we just boil, like the proverbial frog? Or does someone actually call this shit out, jump out of the pot and fling it off the stove?

Jeepers.
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 04, 2024 10:33 AM

It's now full-on Professional Wrestling, and we're the marks.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 04, 2024 10:41 AM (a3Q+t)

201 : except for politics, Nixon was kind of a cool guy, in the jazz sense of the word.

Walking on the beach in business shoes? Not Miles Davis.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at January 04, 2024 10:41 AM (CnLzB)

202 Richard Nixon, who once sat in with the MJQ.

-
Modern Jazz Quartet?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 10:41 AM (FVME7)

203
I suppose Joe and his toadies will now climb on the dead and wounded - even before we know much about this - to spout nonsense.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 04, 2024 10:42 AM (MoZTd)

204 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. Some art I actually had to ask myself, "Really?"
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 04, 2024 10:42 AM (W/lyH)

205 [ii] What's in Appia?
Posted by: BignJames

********

Twenty Christiians, same as in Corinth.

Posted by: Nosmo King at January 04, 2024 10:42 AM (991eG)

206 The fulfillment of those prophesies is why some believe that Christ's birth was on Succoth in the fall. It is, after all, the feast celebrating when God was literally with man as the Hebrew tribes traveled through the desert in Exodus.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 04, 2024

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Yes. Wouldn't it have made sense for Augustus to have the census for purposes of taxation in the autumn, after the harvest? It could have taken Joseph and Mary some time to travel from Nazareth to Bethlehem, about eighty miles. Say six or seven days. So maybe Jesus was born in October?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:42 AM (J2vNu)

207 I suppose Joe and his toadies will now climb on the dead and wounded - even before we know much about this - to spout nonsense.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 04, 2024 10:42 AM (MoZTd)

They're knocking each other over trying to get to the microphone

Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 10:43 AM (n2vyf)

208 Has the imbecilic media tried to turn Joey the Red into a Christ figure etc?

Posted by: Northernlurker at January 04, 2024 10:43 AM (AN/rm)

209 Follow by a large dose of Scruitol.

Posted by: Ask your doctor at January 04, 2024 10:43 AM (NBVIP)

210 202 Richard Nixon, who once sat in with the MJQ.
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Modern Jazz Quartet?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024

Michael Jackson Quartet. What the Jackson 5 renamed themselves after Michal's solo career started.

Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 04, 2024 10:43 AM (JCZqz)

211 This crowd can hold it against Lenny Bernstein that he was way too gay, and then stand up for Aaron Copland. I just don't get it.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 04, 2024 10:43 AM (FCs/J)

212 Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 04, 2024 10:40 AM

I see DU is doubling down on the crazy for 2024.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 04, 2024 10:44 AM (Wnv9h)

213 @211 Yes, sometimes known as the Milt Jackson Quartet.
Nixon had them play at the White House -- for the Shah.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 04, 2024 10:44 AM (FCs/J)

214 I see DU is doubling down on the crazy for 2024.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

Well, it's worked for them so far.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 10:46 AM (FVME7)

215 During the Empire, virtuous Romans were thin on the ground. Maybe Germanicus, Caligula's father. Marcus Aurelius, possibly (though he was deluded into thinking his son Commodus would make a good emperor).
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:15 AM

Good thing that's not true in the late American Empire.

Posted by: Obama, Biden, & Crenshaw at January 04, 2024 10:46 AM (a3Q+t)

216 "The System Is Not Going To Let Trump Win" - Dems' Real Puppet Isn't Gavin, It's Nikki

"Nikki Haley... makes for a far better Trojan horse to actually accomplish that objective than anybody else."

Posted by: SMOD at January 04, 2024 10:46 AM (RHGPo)

217 Note Vivek is playing a Baldwin. Very smart politician.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 04, 2024 10:38 AM (FCs/J)
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Smart Alec.

Posted by: Biden's Dog sniffs a whole lotta malarkey, at January 04, 2024 10:46 AM (ch/kO)

218 196 The border crisis is not Joe Biden's fault end of story. The people @ the border are because of hunger, crime, gangs, climate change, and corruption not Joe Biden.

LOL... That describes current day America without the bullshit climate change so it is very much Joe's fault

Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 10:46 AM (n2vyf)

219
This crowd can hold it against Lenny Bernstein that he was way too gay, and then stand up for Aaron Copland. I just don't get it.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver

__________

Bernstein's music doesn't hold a candle to Copland, which itself sounds more and more dated.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 04, 2024 10:48 AM (MoZTd)

220 Yes. Wouldn't it have made sense for Augustus to have the census for purposes of taxation in the autumn, after the harvest? It could have taken Joseph and Mary some time to travel from Nazareth to Bethlehem, about eighty miles. Say six or seven days. So maybe Jesus was born in October?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:42 AM

Shepards are 'in their fields' at night during late winter/early Spring, i.e. lambing time.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 04, 2024 10:48 AM (a3Q+t)

221 Yes. Wouldn't it have made sense for Augustus to have the census for purposes of taxation in the autumn, after the harvest? It could have taken Joseph and Mary some time to travel from Nazareth to Bethlehem, about eighty miles. Say six or seven days. So maybe Jesus was born in October?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024

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To add to this: Our traditional carols say now that the Christ child "shivered in the cold," implying a wintertime birth. But it gets cold at night in desert climes. It doesn't necessarily mean it was bitterly cold with snow on the ground, or that it was in December. (And yes, I know the early Church cleverly lined the celebration up with the winter solstice, the festival of the Unconquerable Sun, when the days begin to lengthen again, to win converts from pagan faiths.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:49 AM (J2vNu)

222 She's like the Boy Scouts, always prepared.

JohnGalt 🇺🇸🇮🇱
@JohnJGaltrules
Hillary Clinton has shut off replies on her tweets.
🤣🤣🤣
I wonder why
#EpsteinClientList

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 10:49 AM (FVME7)

223 Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 04, 2024 10:43 AM (FCs/J)

I don't care that either of them were gay. They very very talented musicians and conductors and they were around long before "Gay all the time" and "Let's have a rainbow flag out for months.". They both strike as the Douglas Murray type of gay who think being gay is equivalent to eye color (ie, You're born thatway) and people should be celebrated for other reasons than sexual orientation. But Bernstein was married (I don't think Copeland was) so I feel some sadness for his wife.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 10:49 AM (RSbhh)

224 Btw part 2 America will become a brown nation and nothing will stop that.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 04, 2024 10:40 AM (JCZqz)

Leftists *spit* sure have a weird obsession with "browning" the country. No, but they're not trying to destroy or defenestrate any races, noooooo!!!! That's just a conspiracy, dontchaknow.

Posted by: Robert at January 04, 2024 10:50 AM (i9nbT)

225 I find it interesting that 4 of our philosophers actually left no known written word. Jesus, Socrates, Confucius and Buddha are quoted a lot, but not their written words.

Posted by: Chillin the most at January 04, 2024 10:50 AM (0uQp2)

226 The border crisis is not Joe Biden's fault end of story. The people @ the border are because of hunger, crime, gangs, climate change, and corruption not Joe Biden.

Crisis?...Joe sez..."it's normal".

Posted by: BignJames at January 04, 2024 10:50 AM (AwYPR)

227 220
This crowd can hold it against Lenny Bernstein that he was way too gay, and then stand up for Aaron Copland. I just don't get it.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver

__________

Bernstein's music doesn't hold a candle to Copland, which itself sounds more and more dated.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 04, 2024 10:48 AM (MoZTd)

Agree. HATE "Candide." Bernstein was a Black Panther fanboi so that alone is why I detest him.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 04, 2024 10:50 AM (x0n13)

228 Bernstein's music doesn't hold a candle to Copland, which itself sounds more and more dated.
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My sense of Copeland was he mined folk music and turned into symphonic music. Very simple melodies done large. I like him but he doesn't have the impact of Bach, Vivaldi or Brubeck.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 10:50 AM (pZ64F)

229 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 04, 2024 10:48 AM (MoZTd)

I don't think Copeland is dated. It's just that Appalachian Spring and Rodeo are overplayed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 10:51 AM (RSbhh)

230 Late today. Didn't know Jesus had to ask directions on the way to Calvary.

Posted by: From about that Time at January 04, 2024 10:51 AM (4780s)

231 Shepards are 'in their fields' at night during late winter/early Spring, i.e. lambing time.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 04, 2024

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Not having any shepherds among my acquaintances, I ask if that's the *only* time they are out in the fields with their sheep.

Of course we're using lyrics from carols written centuries later as evidence. Still . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:51 AM (J2vNu)

232 209 Has the imbecilic media tried to turn Joey the Red into a Christ figure etc?
Posted by: Northernlurker

They'd never use that term, because Christianity is evil and primitive. They can't make Joe look like TOO much of a victim, because he might start looking weak, so they blame the negative results of his presidency (international failures, inflation, etc) on factors outside his control.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 04, 2024 10:51 AM (JCZqz)

233 My sense of Copeland was he mined folk music and turned into symphonic music. Very simple melodies done large. I like him but he doesn't have the impact of Bach, Vivaldi or Brubeck.
Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 10:50 AM

Nobody rolls over for me.

Posted by: Beethoven at January 04, 2024 10:52 AM (a3Q+t)

234 We used to have a guy carry a cross through town like that. Wonder what happened to that guy.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 04, 2024 10:53 AM (cBelj)

235 The border crisis is not Joe Biden's fault end of story. The people @ the border are because of hunger, crime, gangs, climate change, and corruption not Joe Biden.

Crisis?...Joe sez..."it's normal".
Posted by: BignJames at January 04, 2024

***
Sure, F. Joe. We'll agree they're at the border for those reasons. But why are you letting them cross into our country???

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:53 AM (J2vNu)

236 Nobody rolls over for me.
Posted by: Beethoven
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Beethoven is the Heavy Metal of Classic Music. Sort of the Led Zeppelin.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 10:53 AM (pZ64F)

237 46 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo With A Big Jewish Nose at January 04, 2024 09:42 AM (gSZYf)

It's not exactly the nose. I'm not sure what it is. But he does look less European than middle eastern in this one. And fyi..... I have no idea what "Jewish looking" actually looks like. I've met practicing Jews who look like a standard WASP and one who was actually Japanese. Her father was Israeli and her mother was Japanese. She taught me how to write my name in Japanese.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 04, 2024 09:47 AM (cRrcX)
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The mother has to be Jewish (by birth or also by marriage?) for the kids to be Jewish, am I right?

Posted by: Ciampino - Got the bit between my teeth as I gallop away at January 04, 2024 10:53 AM (qfLjt)

238
Lenny wanted to be the Great American Composer, but his talents topped out at West Side Story. And he knew it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 04, 2024 10:54 AM (MoZTd)

239 Posted by: Robert at January 04, 2024 10:50 AM (i9nbT)

There's also the implication that all brown people think alike, but somehow might need the guiding influence of white progressives. l

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 10:54 AM (RSbhh)

240
Fanfare for the Common Man - Aaron Copeland
:: drops mic ::
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NjssV8UuVA

Posted by: Divide by Zero at January 04, 2024 10:54 AM (3qE2b)

241 239
Lenny wanted to be the Great American Composer, but his talents topped out at West Side Story. And he knew it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Unlike Lemmy, who had several timeless classics with Motorhead.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at January 04, 2024 10:55 AM (JCZqz)

242 Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
NYT's @MaraGay on Claudine Gay resigning: "This is really an attack on academic freedom ... This is an attack on diversity. This is an attack on multiculturalism, & ... I don’t have to say that they’re racist, because you can hear and see the racism in the attacks"

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There shmart at the NYT.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 10:55 AM (FVME7)

243 Thanks for letting me know. I hadn't heard the news.

Posted by: Tchaikovsky at January 04, 2024 10:56 AM (NBVIP)

244 Getting browner is a good thing and the best countries are run by Scandinavians.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 04, 2024 10:56 AM (cBelj)

245 NYT's @MaraGay on Claudine Gay resigning: "This is really an attack on academic freedom ... This is an attack on diversity. This is an attack on multiculturalism, & ... I don’t have to say that they’re racist, because you can hear and see the racism in the attacks"

So the Penn President/Dean "resigned" and was White... Was that racist and against Academic freedom ?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 10:57 AM (n2vyf)

246 243 Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
NYT's @MaraGay on Claudine Gay resigning: "This is really an attack on academic freedom ... This is an attack on diversity. This is an attack on multiculturalism, & ... I don’t have to say that they’re racist, because you can hear and see the racism in the attacks"

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There shmart at the NYT.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 10:55 AM (FVME7)

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The idea that the conservative commentariat had anything to do with her firing is hilarious to me.

A leftist Jewish billionaire got a few others to withhold donations to a total of a billion dollars. That billionaire has since visited Harvard, discovered DEI, and decided that it's not just a nice thing about making brown people feel welcome, much to his surprise.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 10:57 AM (GBKbO)

247 118 Little know fact that throughout Jesus life he carried around a cross, good exercise.
Posted by: Skip at January 04, 2024 10:11 AM (fwDg9)

Pfft...

Posted by: Milo of Croton at January 04, 2024 10:57 AM (TTAGa)

248 Not having any shepherds among my acquaintances, I ask if that's the *only* time they are out in the fields with their sheep.

Of course we're using lyrics from carols written centuries later as evidence. Still . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:51 AM

They're out in the fields most of the time (that's their job), but lambing season is the most demanding for nocturnal attention.

And from Luke, the earliest-written Gospel (approximately 80 A.D., IIRC):

"8 And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified."
-- Luke 2:8-9 New International Version

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 04, 2024 10:57 AM (a3Q+t)

249
Copland: Symphony No. 3, Fourth movement

https://youtu.be/EPLzHUEZlW4?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 04, 2024 10:57 AM (MoZTd)

250 245 So the Penn President/Dean "resigned" and was White... Was that racist and against Academic freedom ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 04, 2024 10:57 AM (n2vyf)

=========

She resigned for the same reasons as Gay: donations were drying up.

Everything is narrative.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 10:58 AM (GBKbO)

251 There's also the implication that all brown people think alike, but somehow might need the guiding influence of white progressives.
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Meh, its white Yankees Negro guilt obsession. Did you notice that Obama won only a few primaries against Hillary but won every Caucus. Its really amazing how Yankees behave.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 10:58 AM (pZ64F)

252 236 The border crisis is not Joe Biden's fault end of story. The people @ the border are because of hunger, crime, gangs, climate change, and corruption not Joe Biden.

Crisis?...Joe sez..."it's normal".
Posted by: BignJames at January 04, 2024

***
Sure, F. Joe. We'll agree they're at the border for those reasons. But why are you letting them cross into our country???

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at January 04, 2024 10:53 AM (J2vNu)
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... and is paying them and giving them freebies? How long can they mooch on our money before they need a job?

Posted by: Ciampino - I ant free health care & plane rides at January 04, 2024 10:58 AM (qfLjt)

253 OMG!!! I'm shocked!!!

Techno Fog
@Techno_Fog
Who else was a visitor to Jeffrey Epstein's Palm Beach mansion?
According to one witness:
Michael Jackson.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024 at January 04, 2024 10:58 AM (FVME7)

254 ...I think a lot of them come here because every time a republican gets in front of a microphone or camera they say Biden has an open border policy.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at January 04, 2024 10:40 AM (JCZqz)
===

This is a remarkably perverted projection.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 04, 2024 10:59 AM (RIvkX)

255 Posted by: From about that Time at January 04, 2024 10:51 AM (4780s)

The picture depicts Jesus after his crucifixion . It is based on an Apocrypha work about Peter .Peter is trying to run away from Rome during the persecution of Nero and he has a vision of Jesus carrying his cross so he goes back to Rome and is martyred.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 10:59 AM (RSbhh)

256 Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 10:58 AM (pZ64F)

Yankee progressives.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 11:00 AM (RSbhh)

257 NOOD

Rant is up

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at January 04, 2024 11:00 AM (qPw5n)

258 I've read pieces eluding that LA Police have a Michael Jackson hard drive with all kinds of deranged shit on it. Won't release it.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at January 04, 2024 11:00 AM (R4t5M)

259 Michael Jackson.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2024

No, that's ignorant. It's just...I identify with the children so much. They're so innocent, and pure. I never really had a childhood, because I was working all the time...

Posted by: Zombie Michael Jackson at January 04, 2024 11:00 AM (JCZqz)

260 @181 - Polliwog

Not familiar at all with the man instituted feasts. Only somewhat familiar with Hanukkah.
The 7 instituted by God are like His prophetic calendar.

@185 - Blaster

Many, including myself, look at that passage as what Peter said, not Peter himself, as that rock.

Posted by: Teej at January 04, 2024 11:02 AM (9jZWY)

261 Posted by: Paul at January 04, 2024 11:02 AM (iHK7W)

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So, you're welcoming them into your own house, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, walking with hope in America with Frank Capra at January 04, 2024 11:02 AM (GBKbO)

262 256 Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 10:58 AM (pZ64F)

Yankee progressives.
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Moar likely Yankee belief in the Church of Manhattan Media. Now they have the Silicon Valley Inquisition to keep them in line. BTW, does anyone know who won the Iowa Democratic Caucus last time? Counting hands is hard.

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 11:03 AM (pZ64F)

263 260 The 2 million recent migrants represent only an increase of 00.6% of the total population of the USA yet there is palpable panic amongst the right terming it an invasion
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Now you trust the government's head count?

Posted by: Pudinhead at January 04, 2024 11:04 AM (pZ64F)

264 Posted by: Teej at January 04, 2024 11:02 AM (9jZWY)

Succoth is a Divine-ordered feast. It is the third pilgrimage feast along with Passover and First Fruits.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at January 04, 2024 11:08 AM (nC+QA)

265 Paul's Mom had a 2% rise in paying "clients" this holiday season and Paul is happy because he gets his 10%

Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 11:12 AM (D7oie)

266 Now we hate Yankees? Because Clamps or Average Joe or whoever brought it up in the Cafe? WTF

Will we hate on Tarheels next week?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 04, 2024 11:14 AM (D7oie)

267 Now we hate Yankees?

I don't (I don't hate Southerners either) and I think this in incredibly unfortunate if the division even extends to people whose parents and grandparents were not alive during the Civil War, but "Yankees" are demonized for this regardless, when conservatives ought to be sticking together.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 04, 2024 11:18 AM (RSbhh)

268 his talents topped out at West Side Story.
Somebody has not listened to On The Waterfront.

Aaron Copland did not "happen to be gay." Possibly more than any other figure (except critics who did not perform), he was responsible for establishing a Gay Mafia at the center of the US east coast classical music establishment, and closed it to others. You either know about this, or you don't want to.

Piss, moan, bitch all day about the state of the culture, then throw your heads back and glug it down as the mood takes you. Always spoiling for a fight, but you can't figure out who to have it with. And you think Zappa was some kind of frat comedian.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at January 04, 2024 11:22 AM (FCs/J)

269 Murder at Christmas Time Muslim youth beat up on a Santa in Germany and claim Its Their Country Do we need anymore reasons to stop this whole Invasion? Biden's act of Treason. Open Borders

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