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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition![]() Three U.S. service members were injured in Iraq on Christmas Day when Kataib Hezbollah terrorists attacked Erbil Air Base, according to Secretary of Defense Lloyd J. Austin. Austin announced late on Monday night that American forces "conducted necessary and proportionate strikes on three facilities used by Kataib Hezbollah and affiliated groups in Iraq." "These precision strikes are a response to a series of attacks against U.S. personnel in Iraq and Syria by Iranian-sponsored militias, including an attack by Iran-affiliated Kataib Hezbollah and affiliated groups on Erbil Air Base earlier today, and intended to disrupt and degrade capabilities of the Iran-aligned militia groups directly responsible," Austin said in a press release. Well, I feel better now! There was a proportionate response! Probably a couple of warehouses were blown up, and maybe a night watchman was killed. That should send shivers of fear down the spines of every Jihadist in the Levant! The obvious non-response to attacks on American servicemen doesn't go unnoticed. And the trivial and perfunctory "proportionate" response is even more emboldening. What the drooling Jew-hater in the White House is telling the world is that it is perfectly okay to try to kill Americans...in Gaza; on our military bases; and probably on American soil in the future. And Lloyd Austin, the dim-wit functionary raised to secretary level because of his melanin content is too stupid and too invested in "equity" and DEI to care much about defending our interests in the world, starting with our servicemen! The only correct response would have been leveling wherever these attacks are coming from, and then warning Iran -- loudly and publicly -- that any more attacks from their proxies would result in a blockade of Iranian ports and the destruction of Iranian spy vessels. And if that doesn't work, then attacks on Iranian military bases within Iran. Iran is a bully, and our response should have been to punch it in the nose after the first attack. All we have done is shown Iran that we are indeed a paper tiger...unwilling to protect our interests, and certainly unwilling to protect our allies. Hell, we have allowed the Houthi sand fleas to attack shipping without any significant response other than using expensive missiles to shoot down some inexpensive drones and missiles. Do we really need a multinational force to deal with a 3rd world militia? How about a nice and safe (for our servicemen) bombing campaign that lasts a few days and destroys all of their military infrastructure? But that will never happen, because Biden, Austin, and their happy band of retards are not interested in anything other than partisan politics in service of their ultimate goal of rebuilding America in Marx's image. Our country is diminished when savages can attack us at their leisure without fear of massive retaliation. Our allies can no longer rely on us, and our enemies know that we do not back up our words with actions. But Trump said "pussy!" Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Huh.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 26, 2023 11:07 AM (aD39U) 2
Dang. Not first.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 11:07 AM (9yWhg) 3
Morning.
Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2023 11:08 AM (Mapm9) 4
It used to be that attacking American military bases was a big deal, and resulted in things called "wars." But the Biden junta and its handlers in Kalorama are too busy fellating the Iranians to manage much of a response. And make no mistake; these attacks are on orders from Iran.
++++ Attacking embassies was a big deal, too, until it wasn't. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:09 AM (zxP/x) 5
... and don't forget "mean tweets", either!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at December 26, 2023 11:09 AM (kc18b) 6
Our current military is a joke. A bad one.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 11:09 AM (9yWhg) 7
Well, I feel better now! There was a proportionate response! Probably a couple of warehouses were blown up, and maybe a night watchman was killed. That should send shivers of fear down the spines of every Jihadist in the Levant!
------------- Make Bombing Aspirin Factories Great Again! * "Wag the Dog" has entered the chat * Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at December 26, 2023 11:09 AM (oTCgw) 8
WHEN someone like India decides to respond to Iranian attacks on their shipping, I have no doubt they will send the message that the United States refuses to send.
And they will NOT be "proportional" in their response. We are the only ones that seem to care more about the lives of our enemies than we do about the lives of our own citizens. No one else in the world feels that way. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2023 11:09 AM (BpYfr) 9
The obvious non-response to attacks on American servicemen doesn't go unnoticed. And the trivial and perfunctory "proportionate" response is even more emboldening. What the drooling Jew-hater in the White House is telling the world is that it is perfectly okay to try to kill Americans ...
++++ In fairness, it's also telling the world that America cannot (or will not - the distinction is irrelevant) defend major trade routes. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:10 AM (zxP/x) 10
eh, they're just keeping it simmering until another extraordinary event is needed for propaganda purposes.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at December 26, 2023 11:10 AM (kc18b) 11
The weirdness with Iran goes back a long time. Bush the Lesser knew exactly where in Iran that the EFP IEDs that were killing our troops in Iran were being made, and did exactly nothing about it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 26, 2023 11:11 AM (aD39U) 12
But Trump said "pussy!"
========= Not only that, but Trump is crazy! There's no telling what kind of wars he'll unleash upon the world if he's made president! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating love and hate with Charles Laughton at December 26, 2023 11:11 AM (GBKbO) 13
Christmas is over. Can we go back to hating again??
Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 26, 2023 11:12 AM (Angsy) 14
Austin announced late on Monday night that American forces "conducted necessary and proportionate strikes on three facilities used by Kataib Hezbollah and affiliated groups in Iraq."
How to tell me you're a corrupt peawit with no business in your position without telling me you're a corrupt peawit with no business in your position. Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2023 11:12 AM (CsUN+) 15
The only correct response would have been leveling wherever these attacks are coming from, and then warning Iran -- loudly and publicly -- that any more attacks from their proxies would result in a blockade of Iranian ports and the destruction of Iranian spy vessels. And if that doesn't work, then attacks on Iranian military bases within Iran.
++++ No, that's only one correct response. There are others. Another valid response would be to withdraw and state that the US security umbrella no longer extends to the Middle East or its intersecting trade routes, and that we are removing all military and diplomatic assets from the region. The latter option would mark the end of the American empire and leave the Middle East open to conquest by other powers (Russia possibly, but likely not largely - China and India would likely make plays for it). Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:12 AM (zxP/x) 16
But if we strike back, we're no better than them! Muh moral high ground!
(At least that seems to be the thought process.) And the only acceptable level of "proportionate response" is dead enemies for miles around. Posted by: NR Pax at December 26, 2023 11:13 AM (5+9sG) 17
If only someone had a big Navy with lots of aircraft carriers and fighter jets and destroyers and missiles and stuff...
Posted by: Oh, wait... at December 26, 2023 11:13 AM (NBVIP) 18
Do we really need a multinational force to deal with a 3rd world militia?
++++ Yes. Whether logistically, militarily or diplomatically, it is clear that we *do* need that. Which is why other countries are getting involved on their own terms. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:13 AM (zxP/x) 19
8 We are the only ones that seem to care more about the lives of our enemies than we do about the lives of our own citizens. No one else in the world feels that way.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 26, 2023 11:09 AM (BpYfr) That's because American citizens are the Regime's enemies. Posted by: XTC at December 26, 2023 11:13 AM (sm6Pk) 20
Houthis are worried about climate change!
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 26, 2023 11:13 AM (/UtnQ) 21
It used to be that attacking American military bases was a big deal, and resulted in things called "wars." But the Biden junta and its handlers in Kalorama are too busy fellating the Iranians to manage much of a response. And make no mistake; these attacks are on orders from Iran.
++++ Attacking embassies was a big deal, too, until it wasn't. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:09 AM (zxP/x) Avenge me, boys. A-ven-ge me!! Posted by: Amb J. Christopher Stevens at December 26, 2023 11:14 AM (4I/2K) 22
The current level of retaliatory strikes are what you get when you allow attorneys to intervene to establish ROE and promote soy-boy commies to the top brass while relieving commanders who don't adhere to leftest political think.
Posted by: Archer at December 26, 2023 11:14 AM (gmo/4) 23
Our country is diminished when savages can attack us at their leisure without fear of massive retaliation. Our allies can no longer rely on us, and our enemies know that we do not back up our words with actions.
++++ Deterrence is approaching zero. We had a serious decline in deterrence under Obama, and Trump was able to achieve a lot in that space - but it's whipsawing a lot and Biden has lost deterrence to an even greater degree than Obama did (though it isn't apples-to-apples). Holding deterrence is fairly easy. Gaining it in the first place is extremely difficult and dangerous and it is usually preceded by victory in major war. I somewhat doubt American deterrence is going to make a comeback. It barely did after Obama, and Trump had it on a razor's edge. After the past couple of years, I think the party is probably over. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:15 AM (zxP/x) 24
Our country is diminished when savages can attack us at their leisure without fear of massive retaliation. Our allies can no longer rely on us, and our enemies know that we do not back up our words with actions.
------------ Next thing you know The Junta will actively promote, invite, and reward millions of military-age male foreign invaders to hasten domestic terrorist attacks & innumerable other crimes -- hastening the county's demise. Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at December 26, 2023 11:17 AM (oTCgw) 25
Most of the "problems" in the Muddle East emanate from Iran and the weird beards in charge of that shit hole.
Eliminate the weird beards. Let what comes after fight for the scraps. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 26, 2023 11:18 AM (R/m4+) 26
Seems to me the Houthi threat to shipping could be neutralized quite easily. They must have satellite photos that show the launching sites. A big noisy air strike to blow up all the launching sites with big, messy bombs should knock them back for a while.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2023 11:18 AM (tkR6S) 27
Proactively pursuing a bold strategy of preemptive appeasement!
Posted by: Muldoon at December 26, 2023 11:18 AM (991eG) 28
Old Rip Lips 6......what a disappointment he turned out to be.....
Posted by: zooomzooom at December 26, 2023 11:19 AM (rfnUk) Posted by: Peter the Great at December 26, 2023 11:19 AM (9yWhg) 30
'But Trump said "pussy!"'
If NikkiHaley wants to get the Trump vote doesn't she need to say something similar? "Big floppy donkey dick," or something along those lines? Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2023 11:19 AM (Mapm9) 31
They just need more COEXIST bumper stickers.
Posted by: Karen McWinebox at December 26, 2023 11:19 AM (NBVIP) 32
It barely did after Obama, and Trump had it on a razor's edge. After the past couple of years, I think the party is probably over.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:15 AM (zxP/x) Some kind of miraculous repair of the federal government might bring it back fairly easily, if it happens soon. Soon enough to show that recent years were an aberration, and America is still the country with which one shall not FA, lest they FO. But if it really all goes Tango uniform before that happens, global hegemony is up for grabs and it probably won't be another liberal commercial republic that does the grabbing. Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 11:20 AM (9UlRk) 33
30 "Big floppy donkey dick," or something along those lines?
Posted by: Robert at December 26, 2023 11:19 AM (Mapm9) The Best. Luxurious. YUUUUUUUUUUGE. Posted by: XTC at December 26, 2023 11:20 AM (sm6Pk) 34
Holding deterrence is fairly easy. Gaining it in the first place is extremely difficult and dangerous and it is usually preceded by victory in major war. I somewhat doubt American deterrence is going to make a comeback. It barely did after Obama, and Trump had it on a razor's edge. After the past couple of years, I think the party is probably over.
Posted by: Joe Mannix And with it, global trade. I don't see the US being the world's policeman in the future, due to lack of will or to cost So that will change the entire world economy, some for the good, much of it for the worse. Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 26, 2023 11:20 AM (WPCjE) 35
>> Seems to me the Houthi threat to shipping could be neutralized quite easily. They must have satellite photos that show the launching sites. A big noisy air strike to blow up all the launching sites with big, messy bombs should knock them back for a while.
The reason that hasn't happened is that the Houthi aren't the ones in charge of these weapons. Those guys are all Iranian Guard. And the Biden Administration wants Iran to counter Saudi Arabia and Israel. Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2023 11:21 AM (RXW/7) 36
I somewhat doubt American deterrence is going to make a comeback. It barely did after Obama, and Trump had it on a razor's edge. After the past couple of years, I think the party is probably over.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:15 AM (zxP/x) The American withdrawal from Afghanistan showed the world all they need to know about the current posture of America with respect to maintaining deterrence. Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 26, 2023 11:21 AM (hEv4o) 37
Well, Western Civilization had a good run while it lasted.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 11:21 AM (9yWhg) 38
Unfortunately I think we are seeing just the beginning of the riots and attacks. There is no doubt in my mind that the Iranians will reach into the US with suicide and/or car bombings. Then the idiots in this administration will try and blame the Republicans who will curl up in a fetal ball and suck their thumbs.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 26, 2023 11:22 AM (iYJk7) 39
Seems to me the Houthi threat to shipping could be neutralized quite easily. They must have satellite photos that show the launching sites. A big noisy air strike to blow up all the launching sites with big, messy bombs should knock them back for a while.
Don't bother. They're just Iran's proxy. The answer is to tell Iran that the next attack on shipping, or an American base, will result in the obliteration of Kharg Island. Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2023 11:23 AM (CsUN+) 40
But if it really all goes Tango uniform before that happens, global hegemony is up for grabs and it probably won't be another liberal commercial republic that does the grabbing.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 11:20 AM (9UlRk) ++++ There will be no global hegemon. Global hegemony is hard and rare. We'll get regional hegemony and all of that goes with it - including an end to the existing trade and global money system. The world of "anything, from anywhere, at any time, at manageable cost" we've had since the 90s is going to end, and it's going to be quite a shock. Ironically, the WEF is going to get what it is after: end of the superpower system and a rise of regional powers. They're not going to be happy with it, though, because it will deviate from their vision in a fairly important respect: those regional powers aren't going to answer to Davos. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:24 AM (zxP/x) 41
"necessary and proportionate strikes."
Gag! Austin if a fool. Now that said, there is a lot that goes into an airstrike. The biggest concerns are target identity and the air defense threat. What intel do we have on the target? Is the information current and accurate? Is the target mobile? If not, is what is being attacked the right enemy asset? Are we just "sending a message" or trying to do something meaningful vis-a-vis the guys on the ground? What is the threat? Do they have SAMs and/or AAA and if so, what kind? What does the Strike Package need to bring for countering them? Best routes to take in and out? Lots of work goes into this and I suspect the US had most of this information a long time ago. The hardest part is maintaining track on the targets. Now with the multi-national task force falling apart, I guess it was time for Biden to show the world he means business. *spits* Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2023 11:24 AM (W/lyH) 42
I believe Trump said that word in reference to Biden and his administration.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 26, 2023 11:25 AM (w9Wax) 43
The answer is to tell Iran that the next attack on shipping, or an American base, will result in the obliteration of Kharg Island.
And "the holy city" (spit!) of Qom. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 11:25 AM (9yWhg) 44
India will nuke Tehran and Beijing and Pakistan before this shit gets sorted out.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 26, 2023 11:25 AM (cRrcX) 45
Then the idiots in this administration will try and blame the Republicans who will curl up in a fetal ball and suck their thumbs.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 26, 2023 11:22 AM (iYJk7) StG: I think you may mean that the GOP will CONTINUE to curl up in a fetal position Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 26, 2023 11:25 AM (hEv4o) 46
The world of "anything, from anywhere, at any time, at manageable cost" we've had since the 90s is going to end, and it's going to be quite a shock.
Wasn't that an Academy Award-winning movie? Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2023 11:25 AM (CsUN+) 47
>>"necessary and proportionate strikes."
Proportional Warfare is the Prevent Defense of Military Operations. Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2023 11:26 AM (RXW/7) 48
Unfortunately I think we are seeing just the beginning of the riots and attacks. There is no doubt in my mind that the Iranians will reach into the US with suicide and/or car bombings. Then the idiots in this administration will try and blame the Republicans who will curl up in a fetal ball and suck their thumbs.
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 26, 2023 11:22 AM (iYJk7) ++++ Or something. When asymmetrical warfare hits here in a big way - and I agree that it looks likely - there will plenty of perpetrators argued for one way or another by plenty of people. Will it be Iran? Maybe. Perhaps even probably. But they won't be alone. There will be Iranian operations, false-flag operations by our own ruling class, independent operators doing whatever, opportunists after their own ends, etc. There will plenty of perpetrators to go around. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:26 AM (zxP/x) 49
The answer is to tell Iran that the next attack on shipping, or an American base, will result in the obliteration of Kharg Island.
And "the holy city" (spit!) of Qom. While I'm a big fan of "and", the Iranian regime cares a lot more about oil money than some musty mosques. Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2023 11:26 AM (CsUN+) 50
Wasn't that an Academy Award-winning movie?
Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2023 11:25 AM (CsUN+) ++++ LOL Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:26 AM (zxP/x) 51
As things devolve in the Middle East a full multi-national war is inevitable. In fact, it's already on... albeit low intensity.
The junta hasn't a clue how maritime shipping works. They shut down the offices within the Navy / Coast Guard that dealt with things like piracy, maritime security and operations that Trump setup. The US Navy is more concerned with pronouns than fighting even though they've dealt with several Houthi anti-ship attacks the fact remains several commercial vessels have been hit. Europe has a vested interest in seeing the trade routes through the Red Sea open and vessels make the journey unmolested. The US is more concerned with the carbon footprint the guided missile destroyer has while shooting down Houthi missiles and drones. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 26, 2023 11:26 AM (Q4IgG) 52
As things devolve in the Middle East a full multi-national war is inevitable. In fact, it's already on... albeit low intensity. ...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 26, 2023 11:26 AM (Q4IgG) ++++ I'm sure glad Trump lost in 2020, or we'd be in WW III by now. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:27 AM (zxP/x) 53
OT, but for those of us too phobic to go to theaters, Sound Of Freedom is now on amazon, and is free with amazon prime.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 26, 2023 11:28 AM (MeG8a) 54
Europe has a vested interest in seeing the trade routes through the Red Sea open and vessels make the journey unmolested.
The Chinese have the biggest interest. I can see nothing wrong with giving them control over the world's petrochemical carotid. Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2023 11:28 AM (CsUN+) 55
Oderint dum metuant.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2023 11:28 AM (EnT0Y) Posted by: Archer at December 26, 2023 11:28 AM (gmo/4) 57
"Not only that, but Trump is crazy! There's no telling what kind of wars he'll unleash upon the world if he's made president!"
Not only that, but Trump will "militarize" the federal government to destroy his political enemies domestically, imprisoning them, if not hanging them. Posted by: illiniwek at December 26, 2023 11:29 AM (Cus5s) Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 11:29 AM (9yWhg) 59
There will plenty of perpetrators to go around.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:26 AM (zxP/x) What are YOU lookin at, bub? Posted by: Langley at December 26, 2023 11:29 AM (9UlRk) 60
The last time we had a President (Clinton) who ignored terrorist attacks against American embassies and American naval vessels culminated in those same terrorist organizations blowing up the Pentagon and twin towers. The terrorists want attention. They crave retaliation. When they get no reaction, they escalate their actions until they cannot be ignored.
This is not going to end well for our country. Posted by: JT Smith at December 26, 2023 11:30 AM (FxdZx) 61
"necessary and proportionate strikes."
LBJ is back from the dead???? ^^^^ This! - Robert McNamara Posted by: Archer at December 26, 2023 11:30 AM (gmo/4) 62
If the US had "holy cities" which ones would qualify?
I'll nominate Pittsburgh (sports) and New Orleans (food). Some other obvious choices would be Key West, La Jolla and of course, Cleveland. Posted by: Thought experiment at December 26, 2023 11:30 AM (NBVIP) Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2023 11:30 AM (RXW/7) 64
There will plenty of perpetrators to go around.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:26 AM (zxP/x) Buy ammo. Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2023 11:31 AM (W/lyH) Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 26, 2023 11:31 AM (cRrcX) 66
"Proportionate response" means their objective is to fight to a draw. This is why the US military cannot win a war.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 26, 2023 11:31 AM (9yUzE) 67
Proactively pursuing a bold strategy of preemptive appeasement!
Posted by: Muldoon at December 26, 2023 11:18 AM (991eG) ----------- "Leading From Behind 2: Show Your Ass Boogaloo." Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at December 26, 2023 11:32 AM (S2UOa) 68
"necessary and proportionate strikes."
LBJ is back from the dead???? ^^^^ This! - Robert McNamara Posted by: Archer at December 26, 2023 11:30 AM (gmo/4) *** Just send me another hundred thousand and we can win this. Posted by: Westy at December 26, 2023 11:32 AM (W/lyH) 69
It will take at least a full generation to purge the filth that at present, infects our military.
It will also take at least a full generation to reform our culture as to restoring a natural masculinity, with sufficient testosterone in their systems to produce drive, ambition, strength of character, properly boundaried aggression and a willingness to FIGHT, for what is right and true. HOW we're gonna get all that done though? Hell, they smacked down General Patton back in the day, too. This rot goes back much further than just "now". Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at December 26, 2023 11:32 AM (e6UQI) Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 26, 2023 11:32 AM (9yUzE) Posted by: Mayo Pete at December 26, 2023 11:32 AM (RXW/7) 72
Not only that, but Trump will "militarize" the federal government to destroy his political enemies domestically, imprisoning them, if not hanging them.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 26, 2023 11:29 AM (Cus5s) We'll have sky high prices for everything. Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 11:32 AM (9UlRk) 73
The answer is to tell Iran that the next attack on shipping, or an American base, will result in the obliteration of Kharg Island.
I can think of one, possibly two, US presidents in my lifetime who would have the stones to say that. And neither of them are named Bush. Posted by: Oddbob at December 26, 2023 11:32 AM (sNc8Y) 74
Yah we be fucked.
Posted by: Montec at December 26, 2023 11:33 AM (bWsRe) 75
... HOW we're gonna get all that done though? Hell, they smacked down General Patton back in the day, too. This rot goes back much further than just "now". ...
Posted by: Jim at December 26, 2023 11:32 AM (e6UQI) ++++ Two obvious possibilities: 1. Internal (something like a new "Great Awakening") 2. External (conquest and imposition of new rules by the conquerer) Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:33 AM (zxP/x) 76
If it can't be ended by treaty, then it isn't a war. Not in the Clausewitzian sense, anyway.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 11:34 AM (9UlRk) 77
Lloyd Austin Alejandro Mayorkas Karine Jean-Pierre Anthony Blinken Janet Yellen Pete Buttigieg and so on ... There is no better illustration of the "fierce Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 26, 2023 11:34 AM (xG4kz) 78
Seattle would be a holy city in the church of climate change.
Posted by: Montec at December 26, 2023 11:34 AM (bWsRe) 79
"Proportionate response" means their objective is to fight to a draw. This is why the US military cannot win a war.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 26, 2023 11:31 AM (9yUzE) ------------- "Gentlemen, you can't have Perpetual War & Grift if you actually keep winning them -- this is the War & Grift Room!" Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at December 26, 2023 11:34 AM (S2UOa) Posted by: Darth Randall at December 26, 2023 11:35 AM (3hYmw) 81
The Chinese have the biggest interest. I can see nothing wrong with giving them control over the world's petrochemical carotid.
Posted by: Archimedes The Chinese are absolutely screwed if the global trade routes are paralyzed. They have the longest supply chain in the world, both outgoing and incoming, and they don't have a fraction of the seapower needed to maintain it. Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 26, 2023 11:35 AM (WPCjE) 82
If it can't be ended by treaty, then it isn't a war. Not in the Clausewitzian sense, anyway.
Posted by: Warai-otoko What's Santa got to do with this? Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 11:35 AM (9yWhg) 83
Good morning!
Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere. The falling snow interrupted my broadband. 1 inch, my ass. If the lying liars at the National Weather Service can't get this right, one day in advance, why do we believe them on climate change? Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 26, 2023 11:35 AM (u82oZ) 84
Tuscaloosa.
Posted by: Honorable mention at December 26, 2023 11:35 AM (NBVIP) 85
The answer is to tell Iran that the next attack on shipping, or an American base, will result in the obliteration of Kharg Island.
I can think of one, possibly two, US presidents in my lifetime who would have the stones to say that. And neither of them are named Bush. Posted by: Oddbob at December 26, 2023 11:32 AM (sNc8Y) I want a president who would just do the obliterating, and then tell everyone exactly why afterwards. I'm sick of News being in the future tense. Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 11:35 AM (9UlRk) 86
Lloyd Austin
Alejandro Mayorkas Karine Jean-Pierre Anthony Blinken Janet Yellen Pete Buttigieg and so on ... There is no better illustration of the "fierce mediocracy incompetency of diversity" than this administration. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 26, 2023 11:34 AM (xG4kz) -------------- Make Atomic Tranny Dogboy Great Again! Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at December 26, 2023 11:36 AM (S2UOa) Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2023 11:36 AM (qoGsy) 88
What's Santa got to do with this?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 11:35 AM (9yWhg) Christmas is just the continuation of Thanksgiving by other means. Posted by: (burp) at December 26, 2023 11:36 AM (9UlRk) 89
Thomas Paine
The REd Sea is not between China and Iran. So they are not troubled. Europe and the US are hurt by this, not China. China smiles. Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 26, 2023 11:36 AM (u82oZ) 90
Seattle would be a holy city in the church of climate change.
Posted by: Montec at December 26, 2023 11:34 AM (bWsRe) Indeed! As soon as it stops raining. Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2023 11:37 AM (W/lyH) 91
The falling snow interrupted my broadband.
1 inch, my ass. If the lying liars at the National Weather Service can't get this right, one day in advance, why do we believe them on climate change? Posted by: NaCly Dog Well, they did predict that the snow today would be deep, and crisp, and even. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 11:37 AM (9yWhg) 92
> The Chinese have the biggest interest. I can see nothing wrong with giving them control over the world's petrochemical carotid.
_____________________________ China has 3 - 4 warships in the immediate area of the Bab-el-Mandab Strait... where "the action is." They've done squat. The Saudi's have a navy, as does Egypt. Neither seems interested in the situation. India has gotten into the mix and they've no love for the snackbar people. In the past the US would likely have smacked down the bad actors or put together a coherent coalition to deal with things. That ain't happening anytime soon. Coddling Iran will not end well for us, or the region. Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 26, 2023 11:37 AM (Q4IgG) 93
Truth be told, my maternal grandfather was a Dutch rabbi.
Posted by: Karl Marxx at December 26, 2023 11:38 AM (J3ryZ) 94
Grift does so love unsolvable situations.
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 26, 2023 11:38 AM (/UtnQ) 95
Remember all that retribution after we turned Soleimani into bbq? Oh, sorry. That was Democrats.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2023 11:39 AM (EnT0Y) Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2023 11:39 AM (ZLI7S) 97
Joe Mannix @ 48-
Nation of Islam helped plant the seed of hatred for Jews and whites in this country years ago. The hatred has thrived since with the Muslim Brotherhood being coddled by the left. Then every dem ‘president’ after Truman has stabbed Israel in the back. The part that really sucks? How many innocent people of all races/religions will lose their lives here because of stupid people influenced by evil? I hate that we’ve been divided and we’re about to be sorted. The hard way. Posted by: Eromero at December 26, 2023 11:39 AM (Nq2KV) 98
We can make Qom an even holier city for them.
Little holes, big holes, holes all over the place. And one great big fuck off hole right in the middle. Just to say "We Care". Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 11:39 AM (9UlRk) 99
Corpus Christi is another holy city, right there in the name.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 26, 2023 11:40 AM (MeG8a) 100
The REd Sea is not between China and Iran. So they are not troubled.
Europe and the US are hurt by this, not China. China smiles. Posted by: NaCly Dog Unless a pipeline is built across the biggest mountain range in the world in a land that has humbled Britain, Russia, and the US, China is completely dependent upon middle east oil in tankers going through the region. It isn't just the red sea. Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 26, 2023 11:40 AM (WPCjE) Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 26, 2023 11:40 AM (xG4kz) 102
Vodka and mayonnaise smoothies for all!
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at December 26, 2023 11:40 AM (G9z2o) 103
India will nuke Tehran and Beijing and Pakistan before this shit gets sorted out.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 26, 2023 11:25 AM (cRrcX) I sure hope so. Would like to see a bunch of persians, cornershops and red chinamen aglow for 2024. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 26, 2023 11:41 AM (R/m4+) 104
Israel is demonstrating every day the only way to deal with terrorists. Anything less than they are doing only invites more attacks.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2023 11:43 AM (i9ffA) 105
Would like to see a bunch of persians, cornershops and red chinamen aglow for 2024.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy Cornershops? Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 11:43 AM (9yWhg) 106
"The junta hasn't a clue how maritime shipping works. They shut down the offices within the Navy / Coast Guard that dealt with things like piracy, maritime security and operations that Trump setup. "
OR ... they do have a clue, and are actively undermining USA military/economic hegemony ... apparently to serve some globalist agenda that will "build back Brandon", but goal number one is to destroy the American Republic and those damn liberty minded free thinkers. Posted by: illiniwek at December 26, 2023 11:43 AM (Cus5s) 107
Corpus Christi is another holy city, right there in the name.
Posted by: gourmand du jour ---- Los Angeles Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 26, 2023 11:43 AM (XeU6L) 108
Good Morning Rant.
Imho, it appears to be more of the bullsh*t U.S./UN "nation building" strategy. And when something big needs to be putdown in the U.S., it'll be a multiagency response like those that have been routinely practiced in the biggest U.S. cities the last several years; area & regional 'responders,' certain (specialized & reserve) U.S. military and, possibly, even UN Peacekeeping forces. A clusterf**k for sure. Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear, they only need to outrun us - for now at December 26, 2023 11:43 AM (GshMh) 109
Our Border is very secure.
Posted by: Ministry of Silly Dotted Lines at December 26, 2023 11:44 AM (DZrNt) 110
"India will nuke Tehran and Beijing and Pakistan before this shit gets sorted out."
It's wishcasting, but it's a good kind of wishcasting. Maybe they take out Doha while they're at it. Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 26, 2023 11:44 AM (9yUzE) 111
Commissar @ 102-
Dang, a Bloody Mary with celery, asparagus, bacon, and raw oysters woud hit the spot right about now. Posted by: Eromero at December 26, 2023 11:44 AM (Nq2KV) 112
Colorado Gov. Jared Pol-Smoker Faces Backlash for Cringy "Feliz Navidad" Rendition as Migrant Crisis Surges
- He just likes them because they come in the backdoor. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 11:45 AM (FVME7) 113
He just likes them because they come in the backdoor.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 11:45 AM (FVME7) EEEEW Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at December 26, 2023 11:45 AM (9UlRk) 114
Ironically, the WEF is going to get what it is after: end of the superpower system and a rise of regional powers. They're not going to be happy with it, though, because it will deviate from their vision in a fairly important respect: those regional powers aren't going to answer to Davos.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:24 AM (zxP/x) You're exactly right - and the biggest shock to them is that Europe isn't going to be very important in the new multi-polar world, They're still operating on 19th century dreams of glory. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2023 11:46 AM (i9ffA) 115
I imagine that if we take out Kharg Island, someone will take out Port Arthur.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 26, 2023 11:46 AM (aD39U) 116
Sacramento could be another.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 26, 2023 11:46 AM (MeG8a) 117
Dang, a Bloody Mary with celery, asparagus, bacon, and raw oysters woud hit the spot right about now.
Yikes. That's a salad, not a drink. Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 26, 2023 11:47 AM (V8he0) 118
They're still operating on 19th century dreams of glory.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2023 11:46 AM (i9ffA) Oh hey, looks like "Westphalian" is the Word Of The Week. Neat. Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 11:47 AM (9UlRk) 119
Providence is a fake Hollywood town, like Gotham and Atlantic City.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 26, 2023 11:49 AM (aD39U) 120
The way I see it, this administration is engaged in a foreign policy of fence straddling.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 26, 2023 11:49 AM (MeG8a) 121
I guess Biden is not such a bad guy.
The White House @WhiteHouse Happy Kwanzaa from the Biden-Harris Administration! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 11:49 AM (FVME7) 122
110 "India will nuke Tehran and Beijing and Pakistan before this shit gets sorted out."
It's wishcasting, but it's a good kind of wishcasting. Maybe they take out Doha while they're at it. Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at December 26, 2023 11:44 AM (9yUzE) As long as we're wishcasting, I'm going to wish that the New Republic of Texas takes care of that. Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2023 11:50 AM (i9ffA) 123
There is a curious and indescribable love for the mullahs and Iran by Democrats. They are willing to sacrifice our military members, prestige and even our sovereignty for them. It is so ingrained into the diplomatic and Pentagon corps, they all recommend against taking out Soleimani. That is, the person single most responsible for many of our military deaths in Iraq and anywhere else the IRGC is stood up. Just sit back and think about that for a moment, and remember we knew exactly who he was, where the rat lines were in places like Iraq and the fact we largely could not get clearance to hit them or take down known Iranian smuggling routes that were providing all the lethal material.
Then settle on this. After we killed that dirtbag nothing happened. None of the doomsday scenarios painted by anyone ever came to pass. Not one. In fact it went in the opposite direction. The Iranians figure the new ROE was FAFO. Here we are again, with Biden and Democrats preaching the same garbage. You input the motive. Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2023 11:50 AM (EnT0Y) 124
You're exactly right - and the biggest shock to them is that Europe isn't going to be very important in the new multi-polar world, They're still operating on 19th century dreams of glory.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 26, 2023 11:46 AM (i9ffA) ++++ Eastern Europe *might* be locally important. The continent as a whole? No. It's already dead, it just doesn't know it yet. Spoiler option is that it can *become* important again almost overnight in the future when the Islamists who were invited in and then took over get ready-made nuclear arsenals in Britain at least. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:51 AM (zxP/x) 125
The White House
@WhiteHouse Happy Kwanzaa from the Biden-Harris Administration! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 11:49 AM (FVME7) I just noticed how clanky it is for an administration to refer to itself overtly as the "So-and-so administration". Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 11:51 AM (9UlRk) 126
Cornershops?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 11:43 AM (9yWhg) Brit slang for East Asians/Pakis. See also Pakishops. A good band too. Brimful of Asha on the 45 Well, it's a brimful of Asha on the 45 Brimful of Asha on the 45 Well, it's a brimful of Asha on the 45... Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 26, 2023 11:51 AM (R/m4+) 127
Here we are again, with Biden and Democrats preaching the same garbage. You input the motive.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2023 11:50 AM (EnT0Y) It's basic human nature to love the people who hate the same things you hate. Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 11:52 AM (9UlRk) 128
Kinda hard to get worked up over the Syria stuff in particular when we're talking about the same troop deployments that the Pentagon bragged out lying, directly violating orders, and going around Trump's back to carry out as soon as he was out of office.
Sucks for the service members, and of course we all want to see Iran get slapped down, but it's being downplayed for a reason; the WH doesn't want anyone thinking too hard about how we got there and when, even if you set aside the pro-Iran factions in the WH. Posted by: somedood at December 26, 2023 11:53 AM (HIzXx) 129
If I was a serving member of any of the Services, I would strongly question the top of the chain of commands commitment to my safety and if a sacrifice is needed, my pain making a better world.
Being cannon fodder for nihilist desires is not a morale enhancer. Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 26, 2023 11:53 AM (u82oZ) 130
Did the White house tweet Merry Christmas yesterday?
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 26, 2023 11:53 AM (2dQ6Q) 131
Late but made it
Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2023 11:53 AM (fwDg9) 132
Naturally, Los Angeles banned indoor wood burning for Christmas.
No Yule Log, peasants! And of course KTLA has "kwanzaa" candles behind the newsie readers. Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenkoism in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at December 26, 2023 11:53 AM (G9z2o) 133
The coalition to address Houthi attacks on international shipping fell apart in less than a week.
"Prestige restored!" I am not even angry at the donks for this, but I sure as fuck am angry at the retards in the GOP who humored "Grampy Dementia is decency vote." Here's looking at you Mabe, Amish Dude et al. Posted by: sven at December 26, 2023 11:54 AM (X0I7i) 134
Late but made it
Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2023 11:53 AM (fwDg9) We started without you but there are leftovers in the kitchen. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 26, 2023 11:54 AM (aD39U) 135
There is a curious and indescribable love for the mullahs and Iran by Democrats. They are willing to sacrifice our military members, prestige and even our sovereignty for them. ...
Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2023 11:50 AM (EnT0Y) ++++ Not just Iran. The grand vision of the world by the elites is an end to the superpowers (well, singular superpower - that's us), with a new multipolar world of regional hegemons. Iran is to be the Middle East hegemon. Like moths to a flame, the NWO crowd is drawn to their vision of Iran. The Persian empire rebuilt in the modern era. This exact same manic determination can be seen in our own hemisphere. The same people have the same single-minded (single-mindless?) obsession over Brazil. Brazil is to be the hegemon for everything south of the Panama Canal, and nothing will ever disabuse the global elite of the notion. Q: What do cold fusion, Iran and Brazil all have in common? A: They're all always just five years away. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 11:54 AM (zxP/x) 136
128 Posted by: somedood at December 26, 2023 11:53 AM (HIzXx)
If it helps view DOD as the world's largest PMC. Posted by: sven at December 26, 2023 11:54 AM (X0I7i) 137
Daily Mail US
@DailyMail President Joe Biden wants the American economy reported 'the right way' - Yeah. That's the problem. The way the economy is reported. If we could just get some more better lies . . . Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 11:55 AM (FVME7) 138
I guess Biden is not such a bad guy.
The White House @WhiteHouse Happy Kwanzaa from the Biden-Harris Administration! Sorry for the late response. My eyes rolled out of my head and under the sofa. Posted by: Archimedes at December 26, 2023 11:55 AM (CsUN+) 139
I'm guessing Puyallup won't make the list.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2023 11:55 AM (W/lyH) 140
"It's basic human nature to love the people who hate the same things you hate.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 11:52 AM (9UlRk)" Including the Jewish State. DoS is a cesspool of antisemites and has been for years. To the point they were willing to let our troops get killed and grievously injured for their beloved Iran. Think about how sick and insidious that is. Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2023 11:56 AM (EnT0Y) 141
There is stuff we can do to make things better.
But we do not do them One example: An Iranian ship directs the attacks on Red Sea shipping. Get a Seal Team ready, use widespread jamming, and take that ship. Under US Navy Regulation and the International Law of the Sea, the Iranian crew are pirates, and can be summarily executed. But not before interrogation. We have a dentist that I would like to see lead the way there. After we get all the intel, sink the ship. Most importantly, do not tell the media or anyone else. Let this be our terror attack. No reporters at sea, and less onlookers as shipping avoids the area now. Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 26, 2023 11:58 AM (u82oZ) 142
The coalition to address Houthi attacks on international shipping fell apart in less than a week.
"Prestige restored!" I am not even angry at the donks for this, but I sure as fuck am angry at the retards in the GOP who humored "Grampy Dementia is decency vote." Here's looking at you Mabe, Amish Dude et al. Posted by: sven at December 26, 2023 11:54 AM (X0I7i) And I just gotta say, countries that send one officer, or three, are not really a participant, even if Austin wants to count them. This is a shitload of egg on the administration's face. And it won't be reported anywhere in the MSN. Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2023 11:58 AM (W/lyH) 143
I saw Hucklebuck open for the Traveling Bodegas at Gazzarri's Hollywood a Go Go in '86.
Posted by: Karl Marxx at December 26, 2023 11:58 AM (J3ryZ) 144
Bullies only understand one type of messaging.
If you don't respond you encourage them to take additional actions until all of a sudden you have a real war. Brandon and his handlers (Oasshole) are inviting that war. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2023 11:58 AM (+BHX6) 145
I imagine that if we take out Kharg Island, someone will take out Port Arthur.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 26, 2023 11:46 AM (aD39U) Well, they'd have to - Bea Arthur is dead and isn't able to go out on dates anymore. Posted by: Archer at December 26, 2023 11:58 AM (gmo/4) 146
Sorry for the late response. My eyes rolled out of my head and under the sofa.
Posted by: Archimedes It's OK to see with them if they were on the floor for under 5 seconds. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 11:58 AM (9yWhg) 147
You can thank our first Muslim Non- Muslim president 's minions for this non response
Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2023 11:59 AM (fwDg9) 148
142 Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2023 11:58 AM (W/lyH)
How fucked up does shit have to be for the "partners" to take a walk that quick? Surreal, we are a joke. Posted by: sven at December 26, 2023 11:59 AM (X0I7i) 149
A plague on both their houses.
University of Wisconsin campus sued by diversity director who says she was driven from job for being white Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:00 PM (FVME7) 150
They need a new war; Ukraine is dwindling away into stalemate
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at December 26, 2023 12:00 PM (kc18b) 151
Ah, Kwanza - when divisive racial communists created a phony "holiday" for the purpose of giving American virtue-signalers something to support.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 12:00 PM (zxP/x) 152
Well, they'd have to - Bea Arthur is dead and isn't able to go out on dates anymore.
Posted by: Archer at December 26, 2023 11:58 AM (gmo/4) Maude > The Golden Girls Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 26, 2023 12:00 PM (R/m4+) 153
They aren't interested in the "Persian" version of Iran. They like the mullahs mostly because they're authoritarians. The Left Wing isn't interested in democracy. They are interested in power, and either forcing or coercing their ideology on the populace. It's pretty simple to understand and it's at the basis of almost everything they do. Think about what it would take to maintain power, no matter how dastardly, in democratic or destructive and they will do it. That is demonstrably true.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2023 12:01 PM (EnT0Y) 154
How fucked up does shit have to be for the "partners" to take a walk that quick?
Surreal, we are a joke. Posted by: sven at December 26, 2023 11:59 AM (X0I7i) Yeah, I'd of loved to been a fly on the wall in the early meetings. What happened to get those countries to take their ships and say piss off? Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2023 12:01 PM (W/lyH) 155
>> I imagine that if we take out Kharg Island, someone will take out Port Arthur.
You will also see gas prices go through the roof which is a big reason Biden won't go it. Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2023 12:02 PM (ZLI7S) Posted by: Operation Ballsack at December 26, 2023 12:03 PM (4I/2K) 157
There is something satanic about doing evil or neglecting good because of what someone else thinks someone else might think.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 12:03 PM (9UlRk) 158
Just assume the Junta prefers every single evil tyrant over the average American. Mainly because the Junta is moving full speed toward overt tyranny.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 26, 2023 12:03 PM (tT6L1) 159
Experts Publish Research Showing That "Doing Your Own Research" Will Make You A Conspiracy Theorist
- It's almost as bad as thinking for yourself. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:03 PM (FVME7) 160
They aren't interested in the "Persian" version of Iran. They like the mullahs mostly because they're authoritarians. The Left Wing isn't interested in democracy. They are interested in power, and either forcing or coercing their ideology on the populace. It's pretty simple to understand and it's at the basis of almost everything they do. Think about what it would take to maintain power, no matter how dastardly, in democratic or destructive and they will do it. That is demonstrably true.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2023 12:01 PM (EnT0Y) ++++ That's a perfectly rational answer, and I think it's correct and that if you got the globalists drunk enough, they might even provide that explanation. But it goes deeper than that. Saudi Arabia or even the Emirates would be equally valid in this logical framework, but they never ever consider it. It isn't rational, it's manic. Their obsession with Iran (and Brazil) transcends mere fascination or authoritarian-imperial preferences. They *need* Iran and Brazil to be what they envision Iran and Brazil to be. It - not the general condition of "I prefer tyrants and want to see America diminished" - seems to be central to their worldview. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 12:04 PM (zxP/x) 161
Experts Publish Research Showing That "Doing Your Own Research" Will Make You A Conspiracy Theorist ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:03 PM (FVME7) ++++ The Bee, or is that real? It could go either way. MIT's Data Science department drew essentially the same conclusion during the COVID stupids. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 12:05 PM (zxP/x) 162
The Left wants to bring their own version of Shari'ah Law here.
The most important thing being that the punishment for all violations are Death or Dismemberment. Posted by: XTC at December 26, 2023 12:05 PM (sm6Pk) 163
Daily Mail US
@DailyMail President Joe Biden wants the American economy reported 'the right way' - Yeah. That's the problem. The way the economy is reported. If we could just get some more better lies . . . Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 11:55 AM (FVME7) Recalibrate the messaging! Posted by: White House PR Office at December 26, 2023 12:05 PM (4I/2K) 164
You will also see gas prices go through the roof which is a big reason Biden won't go it.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2023 12:02 PM (ZLI7S) I'll gladly pay $10/gal for a year or two if it means this failed empire might get led by people who aren't evil, gutless imbeciles for once, and one of the modern era's worst rogue states gets a black eye. Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 12:05 PM (9UlRk) 165
Wishcasting? No. If I was wish casting I'd say...
India nukes Beijing and takes out that Three whatever Dam. China collapse imminent. Saudi Arabia and Israel collaborate to nuke Tehran, Qom, and Kaargh Island. Iran collapse immediate. US and Mexico collaborate to eradicate drug cartels and restore border. Both countries benefit and begin to recover. US builds border wall, rounds up all illegal aliens, and expels everyone that is not a US citizen. Then outlaw all unions, globalist goblins, collectivism and democrats. Nation becomes a constitutional Republic again. Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 26, 2023 12:06 PM (cRrcX) 166
Yeah. That's the problem. The way the economy is reported. If we could just get some more better lies . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 11:55 AM (FVME7) ++++ It's always a "messaging" problem. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 12:07 PM (zxP/x) 167
Christianity Today
@CTmagazine Jesus was born in Asia. He was Asian. - And he had Kung Pao super powers! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:07 PM (FVME7) 168
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 26, 2023 12:06 PM (cRrcX)
Eradicate the cartels, and you wouldn't need a border wall. Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 12:07 PM (9UlRk) 169
All we have done is shown Iran that we are indeed a paper tiger
What is this we sh#t. This is Biden sh#t Posted by: vic at December 26, 2023 12:08 PM (A5THL) 170
Experts Publish Research Showing That "Doing Your Own Research" Will Make You A Conspiracy Theorist
---------- Old & Busted: "Question Authority." New Hotness: "Question Your Lying Eyes." Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at December 26, 2023 12:09 PM (mw09M) 171
Yeah, I'd of loved to been a fly on the wall in the early meetings. What happened to get those countries to take their ships and say piss off?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2023 12:01 PM (W/lyH) Didn't you hear? US put Jake Sullivan in charge instead of an experienced military person. Not unreasonable for others to walk if "we" won't at least pretend to be serious. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 26, 2023 12:09 PM (nC+QA) 172
>>I'll gladly pay $10/gal for a year or two if it means this failed empire might get led by people who aren't evil, gutless imbeciles for once, and one of the modern era's worst rogue states gets a black eye.
I'd take high prices too for that payoff. But Biden won't. He's been allowing Iran to ignore the oil sanctions and that is why the global price of oil has come down a bit. If Iran goes down not only would his lies be exposed but it would further cripple him in next year's election. Posted by: JackStraw at December 26, 2023 12:09 PM (ZLI7S) 173
Christianity Today
@CTmagazine Jesus was born in Asia. He was Asian. - And he had Kung Pao super powers! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:07 PM (FVME7) He could say his L's!! Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2023 12:09 PM (4I/2K) 174
You will also see gas prices go through the roof which is a big reason Biden won't go it.
Posted by: JackStraw I bet the junta would enable a lot of drilling if prices increased significantly in an election year. Of course it takes time for new wells to come online so they would not benefit from the increase *this* administration. (So they might just let the prices rise and let the middle class disappear.) Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2023 12:09 PM (+BHX6) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:09 PM (FVME7) 176
The junta is not a paper tiger. It's a silicon serpent.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 12:10 PM (9UlRk) 177
Joe Mannix
And yet, if the Islamics took over, their partners in crime (our pedophile, gay, transgender enablers "elite") would be executed. The Iranians did that to their close allies, the Communists, after the Iranian Revolution. Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 26, 2023 12:10 PM (u82oZ) 178
Well of course. They need real life examples that what they're saying exist or is possible. Then they will leverage that to try and make it happen here. But it's not organic from a historical perspective, it's manufactured, or at least done so in a way they try to make it seem natural. But what they want has been tried before and failed miserably in the real world. That's why everything is collapsing around them and they resort to more insidious means to try and make things happen as they want them. But tyrants are as old as the written word, and nothing here is new. It's that the Left are delusional, and are trying to force others into their sick fantasies. It's destined for collapse, the only question is how far, and how destructive their efforts will be.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2023 12:11 PM (EnT0Y) 179
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Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:09 PM (FVME7) ++++ Yeah, that one was a real crap shoot. I'm not surprised that this one is real. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 12:11 PM (zxP/x) 180
Eradicate the cartels, and you wouldn't need a border wall.
Posted by: Warai-otoko You're dreaming. There would still be massive numbers of invaders. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2023 12:11 PM (+BHX6) 181
The Iranians did that to their close allies, the Communists, after the Iranian Revolution.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 26, 2023 12:10 PM (u82oZ) Ok, fine, I'll support the mullahs. Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 12:11 PM (9UlRk) 182
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@CTmagazine Jesus was born in Asia. He was Asian. - And he had Kung Pao super powers! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:07 PM (FVME7) ------------- Turn the other chink? Posted by: ShainS -- I saw the Crotch Goblins open for Poetic Ammo at December 26, 2023 12:11 PM (mw09M) Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 26, 2023 12:11 PM (u82oZ) 184
And yet, if the Islamics took over, their partners in crime (our pedophile, gay, transgender enablers "elite") would be executed.
The Iranians did that to their close allies, the Communists, after the Iranian Revolution. Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 26, 2023 12:10 PM (u82oZ) ++++ "It's different this time." Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 12:11 PM (zxP/x) 185
My Jesus Action Figure has Kung-Fu Grip!
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 26, 2023 12:12 PM (aD39U) Posted by: garrett at December 26, 2023 12:12 PM (RXW/7) 187
Ok, fine, I'll support the mullahs.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 12:11 PM (9UlRk) ++++ This will be uttered in full sincerity by any number of people. It's one of the reasons that my long-odds bet is still on "Islamic takeover of the West." Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 12:12 PM (zxP/x) 188
Dems Attempt to Rebrand Candidates as "Tough on Crime" Heading Into 2024
- Easy peasy! Just nickname them all "Dirty Harry." Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:13 PM (FVME7) 189
Ace must be still recovering from his eggnog hangover.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 12:13 PM (9yWhg) 190
The US could just create a pirate fleet, provide them 100% of their costs and equipment, and pretend to have nothing to do with it. Then let the totally independent pirates raise he'll on whatever the US points out for them to attack.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 26, 2023 12:13 PM (BrIfy) 191
We don't need a wall, we need a will.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 26, 2023 12:13 PM (aD39U) 192
* puts on tinfoil chapeau *
This construct of ineptitude is designed to encourage an attack on Americans on American soil. The kick me sign on our back has been placed there by our own leaders. Posted by: Sock Monkey * take no prisoners at December 26, 2023 12:13 PM (UAnY8) 193
You don't need a Wall.
...IF you have a Free Fire Zone. Posted by: garrett Garrett, the voice of reason! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2023 12:13 PM (+BHX6) 194
"Yeah, I'd of loved to been a fly on the wall in the early meetings. What happened to get those countries to take their ships and say piss off?
Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2023 12:01 PM (W/lyH)" The battle plan was apparently to sit there like targets and only take defensive action. Who would sign up for that? We know where the launchers are and where the munitions are stored. We know where they comes from. I suppose someone asked why we just don't go on offense and DoS along with SECDEF just looked at their feet. Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2023 12:14 PM (EnT0Y) 195
A single strand of wire is sufficient deterrent if it marks the beginning of the minefield.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 26, 2023 12:14 PM (aD39U) 196
OT-I don't know why this made me laugh, but it did:
Hunter Biden's new wife upset after learning about his past: http://tinyurl.com/zjyan88e Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2023 12:15 PM (RSbhh) Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 12:15 PM (9UlRk) 198
62 If the US had "holy cities" which ones would qualify?
Philadelphia. Don't laugh. Social justice, equity, overtaken & ruled by non-profits, the New African Center, the Freedom District, the Welcoming Center, Global Philadelphia, Philadelphia 'Model United Nations' and more, such as, but not limited to the Socialist Democrats and/or Working Families' Party on the regional upswing. Posted by: L - They don't have to outrun the bear, they only need to outrun us - for now at December 26, 2023 12:15 PM (GshMh) 199
I'll gladly pay $10/gal for a year or two if it means this failed empire might get led by people who aren't evil, gutless imbeciles for once, and one of the modern era's worst rogue states gets a black eye.
I'd take high prices too for that payoff. But Biden won't. He's been allowing Iran to ignore the oil sanctions and that is why the global price of oil has come down a bit. If Iran goes down not only would his lies be exposed but it would further cripple him in next year's election. Posted by: JackStraw Considering I fill up twice a week, I won't. And when your $1.50 can of beans runs $5 a can thanks to diesel... Same way people screamed "pay a living wage" to McDonalds and then shit themselves when three hash browns are $18.00 at a San Diego McD. Posted by: rickb223 at December 26, 2023 12:15 PM (6GRih) 200
I say let's have all the barriers at the border that we can put there, including mine fields and bull sharks in the Rio Grande.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 26, 2023 12:16 PM (9yWhg) 201
We demand holy city status!
Posted by: Wankers Corner, Oregon at December 26, 2023 12:16 PM (xX2oA) 202
A plague on both their houses.
Pro-Palestine Protesters Demonstrate Outside Homes of Defense Sec Austin, Nat Sec Adviser Sullivan Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:17 PM (FVME7) 203
We demand holy city status!
Posted by: Wankers Corner, Oregon at December 26, 2023 12:16 PM (xX2oA) If you could find your hole you wouldn't need it Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 12:17 PM (9UlRk) 204
187 This will be uttered in full sincerity by any number of people. It's one of the reasons that my long-odds bet is still on "Islamic takeover of the West."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 12:12 PM (zxP/x) An acquaintance of mine has already said that his feelings on Islamic Conquest are : "Hey, I can grow a beard." Posted by: XTC at December 26, 2023 12:17 PM (sm6Pk) 205
Pro-Palestine Protesters Demonstrate Outside Homes of Defense Sec Austin, Nat Sec Adviser Sullivan
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks They brought it, they bought it. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2023 12:18 PM (+BHX6) 206
OT-I don't know why this made me laugh, but it did:
Hunter Biden's new wife upset after learning about his past: http://tinyurl.com/zjyan88e Posted by: FenelonSpoke She must keep her ear to the ground. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:18 PM (FVME7) 207
An acquaintance of mine has already said that his feelings on Islamic Conquest are : "Hey, I can grow a beard."
Posted by: XTC at December 26, 2023 12:17 PM (sm6Pk) An Ottoman style caliphate would be likely at least a little better to live under than the pseudo-Leninist dumbassocracy we are slouching towards. Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 26, 2023 12:19 PM (9UlRk) 208
"Hey, I can grow a beard."
Posted by: XTC at December 26, 2023 12:17 PM (sm6Pk) Is he planning to convert to Islam or pay the Infidel Tax? Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2023 12:19 PM (RSbhh) 209
If the US had "holy cities" which ones would qualify? ...
Posted by: Thought experiment at December 26, 2023 11:30 AM (NBVIP) ++++ Duluth, Minnesota - the origin of the "Duluth Model" of domestic violence response policy. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 26, 2023 12:19 PM (zxP/x) 210
Posted by: Marcus T at December 26, 2023 12:14 PM (EnT0Y)
I can completely believe that Jake Sullivan would consider that to be a perfect plan. Walking, so as not to lose their resources piece by piece, was probably the only rational option. Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at December 26, 2023 12:19 PM (nC+QA) 211
Didn't you hear? US put Jake Sullivan in charge instead of an experienced military person. Not unreasonable for others to walk if "we" won't at least pretend to be serious.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette The SecNavy, who is a competent leader, is sitting in the back of the room with his dick in his hand. Posted by: Sock Monkey * take no prisoners at December 26, 2023 12:19 PM (UAnY8) 212
205 Pro-Palestine Protesters Demonstrate Outside Homes of Defense Sec Austin, Nat Sec Adviser Sullivan
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks They would only do that one time after I shot everyone of them that set foo on my property. Posted by: vic at December 26, 2023 12:20 PM (A5THL) 213
nood!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at December 26, 2023 12:20 PM (kc18b) 214
208 Is he planning to convert to Islam or pay the Infidel Tax?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 26, 2023 12:19 PM (RSbhh) He'd convert. Mind you, he's always been a cynical atheist, not a Christian. Posted by: XTC at December 26, 2023 12:21 PM (sm6Pk) 215
OT-I don't know why this made me laugh, but it did:
Hunter Biden's new wife upset after learning about his past: http://tinyurl.com/zjyan88e Posted by: FenelonSpoke Hahahahahaha, welcome to the party sweetheart! - Hunter's Bibo Battalion. Posted by: Archer at December 26, 2023 12:22 PM (gmo/4) 216
213 nood!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at December 26, 2023 12:20 PM (kc18b) -------------- nood rescinded Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 26, 2023 12:22 PM (++4z6) 217
James Wan Reportedly Adapting H.P. Lovecraft’s Call of Cthulhu Into Movie
- So that's the problem! Not enough Cthulhu! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:22 PM (FVME7) 218
& now a different nood!
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at December 26, 2023 12:23 PM (kc18b) 219
177 Joe Mannix
And yet, if the Islamics took over, their partners in crime (our pedophile, gay, transgender enablers "elite") would be executed. The Iranians did that to their close allies, the Communists, after the Iranian Revolution. Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 26, 2023 12:10 PM (u82oZ) ------------- Something to look forward to I guess. Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 26, 2023 12:24 PM (++4z6) 220
Under US Navy Regulation and the International Law of the Sea, the Iranian crew are pirates, and can be summarily executed. But not before interrogation. We have a dentist that I would like to see lead the way there. Never give up the ship. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 26, 2023 12:25 PM (63Dwl) 221
@ 204 This entire issue can be satisfactorily rectified by judicious, appropriate use of the 62 cent solution. It's a proven response in each instance.
Posted by: irongrampa at December 26, 2023 12:26 PM (KATBx) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 26, 2023 12:26 PM (FVME7) 223
Here's the obvious question you should be asking: why do we have troops in Syria and Iraq to be attacked in the first place?
This an obvious Gulf of Tonkin psyop to get us into yet another war, yet the rube right is reverting to their neocon core at the slightest bit of provocation. Posted by: Eric at December 26, 2023 12:34 PM (DCMkc) 224
Hey, Molly Ball at Time specifically told us how they got rid of Trump completely violating all of our election laws.
https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/ He unleashed American hydrocarbon energy effectively neutering China, Russia, and Iran and the rest of our government is purchased by said enemies. Go figure. Posted by: Danimal28 at December 26, 2023 01:16 PM (ryUqI) 225
What's it going to take? Another 9/11 inside the US? A massive death toll of our service members over there? This is what's going to happen by the Biden regime doesn't finally act.
Posted by: RebeccaH at December 26, 2023 02:01 PM (Nvors) 226
Stupid Joe and his Band of Merry Retards should send a few more billion Iran’s way. That’ll make them like us for sure!
What a fucking joke. Posted by: SMOD 2024 at December 26, 2023 03:43 PM (Y2NGV) 227
Perhaps if the Empire would remove its troops from 50 of the 55 locations the Empire occupies in the M.E., there would be less attacks.
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