Another Day, Another Government Plot to Spy On You Via Social Media

Here, it seems to be foreign governments spying on you by asking Google and Apple what your "push notifications" are.

However, do note that one way the American government snoops on its own citizens is to ask foreign governments, often the UK, to spy on American citizens, and then share the information with us. See, nothing in the Constitution stops the UK from spying on Americans, does it?

You might think that the Constitution obviously also bars from obvious end-arounds like this but our Deep State Masters choose not to read it like that.

Unidentified governments are surveilling smartphone users via their apps' push notifications, a U.S. senator warned on Wednesday.
In a letter to the Department of Justice, Senator Ron Wyden said foreign officials were demanding the data from Alphabet's (GOOGL.O) Google and Apple (AAPL.O). Although details were sparse, the letter lays out yet another path by which governments can track smartphones.
Apps of all kinds rely on push notifications to alert smartphone users to incoming messages, breaking news, and other updates. These are the audible "dings" or visual indicators users get when they receive an email or their sports team wins a game. What users often do not realize is that almost all such notifications travel over Google and Apple's servers.

That gives the two companies unique insight into the traffic flowing from those apps to their users, and in turn puts them "in a unique position to facilitate government surveillance of how users are using particular apps," Wyden said. He asked the Department of Justice to "repeal or modify any policies" that hindered public discussions of push notification spying.
In a statement, Apple said that Wyden's letter gave them the opening they needed to share more details with the public about how governments monitored push notifications.
"In this case, the federal government prohibited us from sharing any information," the company said in a statement. "Now that this method has become public we are updating our transparency reporting to detail these kinds of requests."

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The Department of Justice declined to comment on the push notification surveillance or whether it had prevented Apple or Google from talking about it.

See why I brought up our own government? Why would the federal government forbid Google and Apple from discussing foreign governments' demands for surveillance material on US citizens, unless the US government was actually the true recipient of that information?

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The source declined to identify the foreign governments involved in making the requests but described them as democracies allied to the United States.
The source said they did not know how long such information had been gathered in that way.

I suspect this foreign government is the UK, who is often the US's dirty partner is these sorts of spy operations against US citizens.

And I suspect that further because of the leading role the British spy organization the GDI has in directing censorship efforts in the US.

The State Department is financing a foreign advocacy group that aims to cut off funding to American journalists.
That's one of the blockbuster revelations in "Disinformation Inc.," a series of reports by Gabe Kaminsky in the Washington Examiner.
The "Global Disinformation Index," or GDI, is a British organization with a pair of U.S. nonprofit affiliates. It receives hundreds of thousands of dollars from the State Department's Global Engagement Center and the taxpayer-funded National Endowment for Democracy.
But GDI is in the business of doing what the First Amendment doesn't allow our government to do. It blacklists news organizations to deny them advertiser dollars.
Major advertisers like the Microsoft-owned Xandr have used GDI's "dynamic exclusion list" to decide which websites will or won't get ads.

See, that's what I think the value of the push notifications are -- to find out which Forbidden Websites are being pushed to American citizens.

I mean, that's my guess. We know very little here. It's all secret.

Now... Global Engagement Center?

Where have I heard of that federally-funded censorship group lately?

Oh yes: It's the State Department-funded group engaged in censoring US citizen speech by depriving conservative/anti-Deep State speakers of advertising revenue.

Matt Taibbi:

In late October, the liberal anti-establishment investigative site Consortium News filed a historic suit against the United States of America and Newsguard,* describing a state-funded effort to label, defame, and stigmatize "media organizations that oppose or dissent from American foreign and defense policy."
Now, a pair of conservative media outlets, The Federalist and The Daily Wire, have filed a bookend suit to match the Consortium News action. This time the defendant is the Global Engagement Center, the State Department organization ostensibly dedicated to countering "foreign state and non-state propaganda." Much as Consortium News alleged the Pentagon funded Newsguard to censor its critics, the Federalist/Daily Wire action alleges the State Department sponsored Newsguard and the U.K.-based Global Disinformation Index as "censorship enterprises" targeting domestic speech, in direct violation of its charter.
Although the 1947 Smith-Mundt Act barring agencies like the State Department from engaging in propaganda at home was "modernized" through legislation passed in 2012, the broad ban on intelligence or diplomatic services meddling in the domestic news landscapes remains. Even the "modernized" Smith-Mundt Act declares bluntly that no State Department funds shall be "used to influence public opinion in the United States." Additionally, as the Federalist/Daily Wire action cites, the law governing State Department conduct, 22 U.S. Code § 2656, says unequivocally that its mandate is limited to "matters respecting foreign affairs." For the State Department to fund organizations that up and down-rank domestic media organizations is a ludicrously obvious no-no.
"The State Department's mandate to administer foreign affairs is clear, making its role in the censorship scheme doubly unlawful," says Margot Cleveland, serving here as the New Civil Liberties Alliance attorney representing The Federalist and The Daily Wire.
What is the alleged "censorship scheme"? The suit outlines a number of issues, but the most damaging appears to involve the use of GEC as a mechanism to funnel money to various censorship-by-proxy organizations. One of those groups is NewsGuard, which in a recent press release said a goal of its subscription-based "credibility assessment" services is to "systemically defund sources of harmful misinformation."
NewsGuard in a presentation of its Library Partnership to the Alaska Department of Education explained in the unabashed dystopian style these organizations are becoming known for that "We are also licensing our White List of legitimate news sites to advertisers, which will cut off revenues to fake news sites":
I reached out to NewsGuard about this passage. If the company licenses a "whitelist" of "legitimate" sites with the express goal of cutting off "revenues to fake news sites," aren't they effectively engaged in a blacklisting service whose real aim is to target what it considers illegitimate sites? Is there any reason, I asked, that this service should not be described as blacklisting?
The company has, now, responded. First of all, with regard to the term "blacklisting":

Whatever term you use for our service, what we are providing is simply information --our assessments of sites -- so that advertisers can decide where to place their ads.
So I guess that's a yes on "blacklisting"? But that's not bad, because, they say:

No publisher is entitled to any particular brand's advertising dollars, and advertisers generally prefer to place their ads on sites that are credible and trustworthy. In a free market, we believe brands should be able to make their own choices about where to place their ads--and to license data that enables them to do so.
The whole point of this suit is that this is not a free market. The litigation is specifically designed to restore a free market. NewsGuard can rationalize all it wants, but when it takes government money and announces an intention to create "white lists" for some and "cut off revenues" for others, that's the opposite of a "marketplace of ideas." It's a government-sponsored thumb on the scale of "credibility" and "trust." In the absence of a big GEC- or Cyber Command-sponsored Scarlet Letter on disfavored content, advertisers would go to wherever the audiences are -- and this arrangement interferes with that organic process.
GDI, meanwhile, says one of its goals is to "defund disinformation" and uses what it seriously calls a Dynamic Exclusion List -- the most badly creepy euphemism since the Obama administration dubbed its "kill list" the "Disposition Matrix" -- to bleed news outlets deemed "morally reprehensible" or lacking "redeeming social value" of ad revenue.

Oh wait, there's the British spy/censorship organization GDI again. Hi GDI!

The company also drew up lists of "least risky" and "riskiest" news outlets that seem to contradict its stance that it does not target "information about which reasonable parties may agree, such as varying political views." Notice any patterns below?

Let me direct you to Taibbi's substack to see if you can figure out the patterns in which outlets are considered "risky" and which are "safe."

Some examples: Buzzfeed: Safe!

Daily Wire: RISKY!!!!

Huffington Post: Safe!

The New York Post: RISKY!!!!

Can you figure out what Secret Algorithm NewsGard might be employing to determine which sources are "Safe" for advertisers and which are "RISKY!!!" and should be starved of all commerce?

Update: Joe Mannix thinks this about who's using encrypted messaging services:

I think it's too build a list of who is using various "bad" services - Telegram, Signal, etc. End-to-end encrypted decentralized messaging is something *no* government likes. Spying on push systems will give them a window into who is using those platforms, and depending on what information is available, why those platforms are being used.
I strongly suspect that this is way more about Telegram and Signal and its analogues than it is about "disinformation" news pushes.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:29 PM

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1 1?

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:29 PM (5fDan)

2 I nooded

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:29 PM (5fDan)

3 3?

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:29 PM (5fDan)

4 th

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:30 PM (5fDan)

5 This is ridiculous. Where are the usual otters?

Posted by: Gref at December 08, 2023 01:31 PM (5fDan)

6 In a statement, Apple said that Wyden's letter gave them the opening they needed to share more details with the public about how governments monitored push notifications.

"In this case, the federal government prohibited us from sharing any information," the company said in a statement. "Now that this method has become public we are updating our transparency reporting to detail these kinds of requests."
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What kind of surveillance? Is it monitoring of push activity, or of push content? Do they know that I got a message from, say, Telegram, or do they know what that message said?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:31 PM (zxP/x)

7 6th

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 08, 2023 01:31 PM (JrojV)

8 Social media is poison.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:31 PM (GBKbO)

9 The source declined to identify the foreign governments involved in making the requests but described them as democracies allied to the United States.

The source said they did not know how long such information had been gathered in that way.
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Ahhh, 5-Eyes. The gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:31 PM (zxP/x)

10 Stupid question from a stupid Moron: What's a push notification?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 08, 2023 01:31 PM (N3zMI)

11 Can you figure out what Secret Algorithm NewsGard might be employing to determine which sources are "Safe" for advertisers and which are "RISKY!!!" and should be starved of all commerce?
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'Tis a complete mystery!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:32 PM (7fElN)

12 Can you figure out what Secret Algorithm NewsGard might be employing to determine which sources are "Safe" for advertisers and which are "RISKY!!!" and should be starved of all commerce?

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Positive reviews of Ishtar?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:32 PM (GBKbO)

13 A push notification is a short message that appears as a pop-up on a mobile device, desktop browser, or device notification center from a mobile app.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 08, 2023 01:32 PM (MhJxt)

14 If the Democrats wanted Chinese Batallions to kill you, what would they be doing any different?

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 01:33 PM (sm6Pk)

15 The wonderful Internet turned out to be a surveillance state's dream.

Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:33 PM (vFG9F)

16 Tik Tok runs a lot of ads on Fox News aimed at older people.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2023 01:33 PM (63Dwl)

17 Stupid question from a stupid Moron: What's a push notification?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher

Just courtesy.

Posted by: Mayor Buttplug at December 08, 2023 01:33 PM (R4t5M)

18 See, that's what I think the value of the push notifications are -- to find out which Forbidden Websites are being pushed to American citizens.

I mean, that's my guess. We know very little here. It's all secret.
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I doubt it. Or, rather, I doubt that's the primary purpose. Just a nice little bonus.

I think it's too build a list of who is using various "bad" services - Telegram, Signal, etc. End-to-end encrypted decentralized messaging is something *no* government likes. Spying on push systems will give them a window into who is using those platforms, and depending on what information is available, why those platforms are being used.

I strongly suspect that this is way more about Telegram and Signal and its analogues than it is about "disinformation" news pushes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:34 PM (zxP/x)

19 The wonderful Internet turned out to be a surveillance state's dream.
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Always meant to be so.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 08, 2023 01:34 PM (MhJxt)

20 Good afternoon all!

At least some of the liberals like Tiabbi are seeing the truth about government censorship. Maybe others will take their blinders off soon.

Posted by: jmel at December 08, 2023 01:34 PM (RWHIh)

21 You're not alone, Robbo. No idea what a push notification is. I just know I don't have any.

Well, I don't think I do...

Posted by: Brunnhilde at December 08, 2023 01:34 PM (tp5SX)

22 The wonderful Internet turned out to be a surveillance state's dream.

A great argument for using a VPN.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 01:34 PM (Gsmsg)

23 Although the 1947 Smith-Mundt Act barring agencies like the State Department from engaging in propaganda at home was "modernized" through legislation passed in 2012, the broad ban on intelligence or diplomatic services meddling in the domestic news landscapes remains. Even the "modernized" Smith-Mundt Act declares bluntly that no State Department funds shall be "used to influence public opinion in the United States." Additionally, as the Federalist/Daily Wire action cites, the law governing State Department conduct, 22 U.S. Code 2656, says unequivocally that its mandate is limited to "matters respecting foreign affairs." For the State Department to fund organizations that up and down-rank domestic media organizations is a ludicrously obvious no-no.
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Sure, but we're post-law.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:35 PM (zxP/x)

24 STOP SPYING ON ME !!!

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2023 01:35 PM (V13WU)

25 The US State Dept is spending tax dollars to a foreign entity to censor Americans on social media. I don't see a problem with it.

Posted by: Cheap Justice Roberts at December 08, 2023 01:35 PM (fs1hN)

26 22 The wonderful Internet turned out to be a surveillance state's dream.

A great argument for using a VPN.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 01:34 PM (Gsmsg)

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"Only we can see your traffic."
-The VPN company, with the feds over their shoulders

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

27 The suit outlines a number of issues, but the most damaging appears to involve the use of GEC as a mechanism to funnel money to various censorship-by-proxy organizations. One of those groups is NewsGuard, which in a recent press release said a goal of its subscription-based "credibility assessment" services is to "systemically defund sources of harmful misinformation."
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It's okay. Private industry did it.
-- NR, probably

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:35 PM (zxP/x)

28 "A great argument for using a VPN.
Posted by: Cicero "

I don't know that it's going to help. Who knows how secure your VPN is?

Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:36 PM (vFG9F)

29 The whole point of this suit is that this is not a free market. The litigation is specifically designed to restore a free market. NewsGuard can rationalize all it wants, but when it takes government money and announces an intention to create "white lists" for some and "cut off revenues" for others, that's the opposite of a "marketplace of ideas." It's a government-sponsored thumb on the scale of "credibility" and "trust."
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It's not a thumb on the scale.

It's a boulder.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:36 PM (zxP/x)

30 A great argument for using a VPN.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 01:34 PM (Gsmsg)

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"Only we can see your traffic."
-The VPN company, with the feds over their shoulders
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:35 PM (GBKbO)

Yes by all means, use VPN ! here are some servers !

--Bob from VPN

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2023 01:36 PM (V13WU)

31 I don't know that it's going to help. Who knows how secure your VPN is?
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:36 PM (vFG9F)

Well, they say they are secure. And this guy on ewetub was doing an ad for them and I like him...

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:37 PM (zZu0s)

32 Wide Awake Media @wideawake_media Dec 6
Under the United Nations' plan for total global control known as Agenda 21 (of which Agenda 2030 is a mere milestone), all humans who once lived on farms and in rural areas, are to be forcibly relocated into densely populated "smart" cities, referred to as "human settlements".

From the documentary, 'Unsustainable: The UN's Agenda For World Domination'. Watch the full documentary here:
wide-awake-media.com/unsusta…

Songpinganq @songpinganq 3h
The Soviets created the 15-min cities, and China follows their footsteps.

Now, Chinese people have to get their faces scanned in order to move from one zone to another zone. So the State always knows who's coming and going in real-time.

You're being watched and controlled.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at December 08, 2023 01:37 PM (krqg6)

33 Can you figure out what Secret Algorithm NewsGard might be employing to determine which sources are "Safe" for advertisers and which are "RISKY!!!" and should be starved of all commerce?
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Easy.

Fully-captured: safe
Aligned: mostly safe
Unaligned: risky
Opposition: high risk

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:37 PM (zxP/x)

34 UN needs a major enema.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2023 01:37 PM (V13WU)

35 Social Media is a disease. Unless you want to know why somebody you haven't seen in 40 years thinks "even though it's winter, in my heart it's spring!"

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:37 PM (v0R5T)

36 They are dirty rotten bastards and proud of it.
Get rid of the pensions and 90% would leave. Then you just hang the rest of them for treason.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2023 01:37 PM (OUiUM)

37 28 "A great argument for using a VPN.
Posted by: Cicero "

I don't know that it's going to help. Who knows how secure your VPN is?
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:36 PM (vFG9F)

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There are rumors that the feds are behind most if not all VPNs out there.

I would trust a VPN to protect traffic from most employers, but not the feds.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:38 PM (GBKbO)

38 Paranoia will destroy ya....

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 08, 2023 01:38 PM (R4t5M)

39 Didn't the Republicans just re-authorize warrantless mass spying on Americans two days ago?

Why yes, they did.

Republican House. Led by "conservatives".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 08, 2023 01:38 PM (izFTT)

40 From Insty:
SHE DOESN’T LOOK LIKE A MAGA TYPE, BUT I’M TOLD BY ALL THE BEST PEOPLE THAT THEY’RE THE THREAT: Woman arrested for pouring gasoline, trying to burn down Martin Luther King Jr.’s birth home. “Police said they have arrested 26-year-old Laneisha Shantrice Henderson and charged her with criminal attempt arson and criminal attempt interference with government property.”

Plus: “Police say two tourists from Utah who were in the area saw Henderson pouring gasoline on the home and interrupted her. . . . Video from a witness shared with Channel 2′s Michael Doudna shows a woman dressed in all black pouring gasoline on the windows and in the bushes of the home. Atlanta Fire Department Battalion Chief Jerry DeBerry said had the witnesses not intervened, the house could have been burned to the ground in moments.”

Black woman dressed as Antifa tries to burn MLK birth home, is stopped by a white guy from Utah and two off-duty cops. But if she’d gotten away with it and those bystanders hadn’t been there, the press would be telling us it was yet another example of white-supremacist domestic terrorism.

Posted at 1:21 pm by Glenn Reynolds

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:38 PM (zZu0s)

41 The wonderful Internet turned out to be a surveillance state's dream.

Always meant to be so.
Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 08, 2023 01:34 PM (MhJxt)

^^^ I finally realized this, especially with social media.

Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 08, 2023 01:38 PM (VloHh)

42 AOSHQ- Dangerous!

Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2023 01:39 PM (NpAcC)

43 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:35 PM (zxP/x)

Law says 'no State Department'... it does not say anything about 3 letter agencies like CIA, FBI, DOD, DHS....

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 08, 2023 01:39 PM (xaFKb)

44 There are rumors that the feds are behind most if not all VPNs out there.

Then I hope they have warm jackets because all of my traffic goes through Helsinki.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 01:39 PM (Gsmsg)

45 Thanks for the inclusion, Ace.

To be clear, I think the push spying is more about secure messaging. The other stuff in this column - the NewsGuard crap, filtering censorship through NGOs, etc. - is definitely about censorship and information control.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:39 PM (zxP/x)

46 I can tell you that my push notifications are desperately trying to get me to pick up my phone every few minutes. I ignore them.

Also, it pushes three or four notifications whenever I answer the phone, and the buzzing doesn't allow me to hear who is calling.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 08, 2023 01:39 PM (lTGtQ)

47 42 AOSHQ- ~~Dangerous!~~ Mostly harmless
Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2023 01:39 PM (NpAcC)

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"FIFY."
-The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:39 PM (GBKbO)

48 If it gets to the point that I have to use a VPN because I'm afraid, then I'll learn to live without it.

Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:40 PM (vFG9F)

49 See, nothing in the Constitution stops the UK from spying on Americans, does it?
You might think that the Constitution obviously also bars from obvious end-arounds like this but our Deep State Masters choose not to read it like that.

That there be one poisonous looking tree. I'll accept it anyway--Most Judges

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 01:40 PM (ynpvh)

50 35 Social Media is a disease. Unless you want to know why somebody you haven't seen in 40 years thinks "even though it's winter, in my heart it's spring!"
Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:37 PM (v0R5T)

This is what I told someone about 10-15 years ago about why I do not touch Facebook:

If I wanted to stay in touch with these people, I would have stayed in touch with them.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:40 PM (zZu0s)

51 No matter what you do, no matter how many precautions you take, no matter how many lawsuits are filed, no matter who is in charge of the government, no matter if we are being governed by a being of pure law and impartiality, even by Primus of the Modrons himself, there is one very simple fact that will never ever change:

WE WILL BE SPIED ON AND SURVEILLED UP THE MOTHERFUCKING WAZZOO

If you can't accept that, then the only option is to live totally and completely off the grid, and in a remote location so far from civilization that no security cameras can reach you.

Do I like this? No. But to deny it is pure delusion.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2023 01:40 PM (iFTx/)

52 You can bet the government assiduously monitors VPN traffic.

Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2023 01:40 PM (OUiUM)

53
1. They demand the Push Notification data based on the definition that they are a form of "postal delivery" and the US has total authority there to know who sent what to whom. (At least that is what I saw a couple days ago. did not verify.)
That is kind of stunning workaround of the law.

2. They want the data because they are building networks and it tells them who talks to who, so they can classify people and who is a threat. (conjecture, but this kind of data is extremely powerful in defining people.)

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 08, 2023 01:41 PM (4DEBm)

54 "The wonderful Internet turned out to be a surveillance state's dream.
Always meant to be so.
Posted by: SMH"

I don't know about that, but it certainly didn't take long for the Feds to realize the possibilities.

Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:41 PM (vFG9F)

55 Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace

AOSHQ- Dangerous!
Posted by: redridinghood
........

I wonder if my PC camera automatically turns on every time I come here.
*pulls on pants*

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:42 PM (v0R5T)

56 even by Primus of the Modrons himself, there is one very simple fact that will never ever change:

WE WILL BE SPIED ON AND SURVEILLED UP THE MOTHERFUCKING WAZZOO

If you can't accept that, then the only option is to live totally and completely off the grid, and in a remote location so far from civilization that no security cameras can reach you.

Do I like this? No. But to deny it is pure delusion.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2023 01:40 PM (iFTx/)
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+1 for obscure Dungeons & Dragons reference

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:42 PM (7fElN)

57 I don't know about that, but it certainly didn't take long for the Feds to realize the possibilities.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:41 PM (vFG9F)
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My dad commented on this in the 90s. He told me, "the internet will either be the greatest engine of human liberty ever created, or the greatest engine of human oppression ever created. We'll find out."

Well, we found out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:43 PM (zxP/x)

58 52 You can bet the government assiduously monitors VPN traffic.
Posted by: torabora at December 08, 2023 01:40 PM (OUiUM)

Is that like Visible Panty Lines?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 08, 2023 01:43 PM (x0n13)

59 See why I brought up our own government? Why would the federal government forbid Google and Apple from discussing foreign governments' demands for surveillance material on US citizens, unless the US government was actually the true recipient of that information?

Just like not only the hired killer, but the ones who contracted his services are all guilty of the crime.

But again, will any court stop it? Will Congress?
As Andy Jackson said, "Now Let Him Enforce It."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 01:43 PM (ynpvh)

60 57 I don't know about that, but it certainly didn't take long for the Feds to realize the possibilities.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:41 PM (vFG9F)
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My dad commented on this in the 90s. He told me, "the internet will either be the greatest engine of human liberty ever created, or the greatest engine of human oppression ever created. We'll find out."

Well, we found out.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:43 PM (zxP/x)

That famous arc of history always bends . . . us over, mostly.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 08, 2023 01:43 PM (x0n13)

61 Black woman dressed as Antifa tries to burn MLK birth home, is stopped by a white guy from Utah and two off-duty cops. But if she’d gotten away with it and those bystanders hadn’t been there, the press would be telling us it was yet another example of white-supremacist domestic terrorism.
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Leneshia Antifa will get a 3 mos sentence for attempted arson, suspended. She should be charged with incitement to murder.

Posted by: Cheap Justice Roberts at December 08, 2023 01:44 PM (fs1hN)

62 I see push notifications as more operant conditioning than anything else. Always trying to keep you attached to the phone.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 08, 2023 01:44 PM (lTGtQ)

63 You can bet the government assiduously monitors VPN traffic.[/i[

Monitors how?

Unless the feds actually run the VPN itself there shouldn't be a way to monitor incoming or outgoing data from a particular computer address without the correct encryption key.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 01:44 PM (Gsmsg)

64 The Deep Staters need some push notices...just before they're pushed off the stools to let them hang.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 01:44 PM (ynpvh)

65 I see push notifications as more operant conditioning than anything else. Always trying to keep you attached to the phone.
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Which is why I have them disabled.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 08, 2023 01:44 PM (MhJxt)

66 Damn html tags

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 01:45 PM (Gsmsg)

67 63 You can bet the government assiduously monitors VPN traffic.[/i[

Monitors how?

Unless the feds actually run the VPN itself there shouldn't be a way to monitor incoming or outgoing data from a particular computer address without the correct encryption key.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 01:44 PM (Gsmsg)

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They could have direct access to the servers, and they could have the keys.

I wouldn't put either past the feds.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

68 Stupid question from a stupid Moron: What's a push notification?
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 08, 2023 01:31 PM (N3zMI)

A turd peeking out.

Posted by: JT at December 08, 2023 01:45 PM (T4tVD)

69 63 You can bet the government assiduously monitors VPN traffic.[/i[

Monitors how?

Unless the feds actually run the VPN itself there shouldn't be a way to monitor incoming or outgoing data from a particular computer address without the correct encryption key.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 01:44 PM (Gsmsg)

Unless you've tapped the sending end or the receiving end. With tap at the the Corporate end, well, I'd say they have it. And probably also have in on your phone end too.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 01:45 PM (ynpvh)

70 "Unless the feds actually run the VPN itself there shouldn't be a way to monitor incoming or outgoing data from a particular computer address without the correct encryption key.
Posted by: Cicero "

I've thought about this. They might not be able to decrypt, but there might be a way to match incoming data streams to outgoing data streams. It won't tell you what it is, but it would tell you where it's going.

Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:45 PM (vFG9F)

71 I strongly suspect that this is way more about Telegram and Signal and its analogues than it is about "disinformation" news pushes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:29 PM
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When I meet a girl and she wants to communicate on Telegram or some other such shit, my radar instantly goes up. Why does she want to use that shit rather than just good old fashioned texting? It's a huge red flag. I might look the other way if she's a truly serious smokeshow.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2023 01:45 PM (iFTx/)

72 61 Black woman dressed as Antifa tries to burn MLK birth home, is stopped by a white guy from Utah and two off-duty cops. But if she’d gotten away with it and those bystanders hadn’t been there, the press would be telling us it was yet another example of white-supremacist domestic terrorism.
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Leneshia Antifa will get a 3 mos sentence for attempted arson, suspended. She should be charged with incitement to murder.
Posted by: Cheap Justice Roberts at December 08, 2023 01:44 PM (fs1hN)

MLK's teachings are antithetical to Crackpot Disgrace Theory.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 08, 2023 01:46 PM (x0n13)

73 They could have direct access to the servers, and they could have the keys.

I wouldn't put either past the feds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

You have to figure that 99% of VPN traffic is porn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:46 PM (zZu0s)

74 The wonderful Internet turned out to be a surveillance state's dream.

A great argument for using a VPN.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 01:34 PM (Gsmsg)

LOL. Like you think the gubmint doesn't have the keys to VPN's.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2023 01:46 PM (BdMk6)

75 56 even by Primus of the Modrons himself, there is one very simple fact that will never ever change:

WE WILL BE SPIED ON AND SURVEILLED UP THE MOTHERFUCKING WAZZOO

If you can't accept that, then the only option is to live totally and completely off the grid, and in a remote location so far from civilization that no security cameras can reach you.

Do I like this? No. But to deny it is pure delusion.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2023 01:40 PM (iFTx/)
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+1 for obscure Dungeons & Dragons reference
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:42 PM (7fElN)
_________

I was a DM back in the day . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2023 01:46 PM (iFTx/)

76 This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: Bob from the NSA at December 08, 2023 01:46 PM (W2jIx)

77 73 They could have direct access to the servers, and they could have the keys.

I wouldn't put either past the feds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

You have to figure that 99% of VPN traffic is porn.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:46 PM (zZu0s)

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Well, I never...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

78
Laneisha Shantrice Henderson

WAKE UP PEOPLE! That is definitely a Latin Mass demanding Roman Catholic person. Support the FBI in its efforts.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 01:47 PM (enJYY)

79 Video: The Black Woman Who Tried To Burn Down MLK Jr’s Birth Home Last Night Was Wearing a Really Suspicious Uniform

https://tinyurl.com/4twdm5yj

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at December 08, 2023 01:47 PM (MhJxt)

80 Do they monitor the barrel?

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:47 PM (v0R5T)

81 I refuse to be a slave to my phone. I don't even get texts. It gets me in trouble with Mrs fd sometimes.

Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:47 PM (vFG9F)

82 40 Police said they have arrested 26-year-old Laneisha Shantrice Henderson and charged her with criminal attempt arson and criminal attempt interference with government property.”

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:38 PM (zZu0s)

We've found the exception to my "Nobody should be allowed to change their name away from what their father named them" rule.

Likely because there was no father to name her.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 01:47 PM (sm6Pk)

83 You have to figure that 99% of VPN traffic is porn.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:46 PM (zZu0s)

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Only 99%? That seems a tad bit low to me...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:47 PM (7fElN)

84 I used to work by the MLK Jr house in Atlanta. Holy shit if a race riot started there. Town would burn to the ground.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 08, 2023 01:48 PM (R4t5M)

85
And Speaker Johnson got snookered into extending FISA funding.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 08, 2023 01:48 PM (x0n13)

86 42 AOSHQ- Dangerous!

Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2023 01:39 PM (NpAcC)

I'm AOSHQed you'd say that!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 01:48 PM (ynpvh)

87 When I meet a girl and she wants to communicate on Telegram or some other such shit, my radar instantly goes up. Why does she want to use that shit rather than just good old fashioned texting? It's a huge red flag. I might look the other way if she's a truly serious smokeshow.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 08, 2023 01:45 PM (iFTx/)

LOL!

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2023 01:48 PM (BdMk6)

88 They must be nosy little busybodies to sit around all day and watch internet traffic. What a fucked up job.

Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:48 PM (v0R5T)

89 WAKE UP PEOPLE! That is definitely a Latin Mass demanding Roman Catholic person. Support the FBI in its efforts.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 01:47 PM (enJYY)

Tridentine Terra Sancta PPXII Ad Altare Dei extremist!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:48 PM (zZu0s)

90 80 Do they monitor the barrel?
Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:47 PM (v0R5T)

You can't put a tap down there - it'll immediately start to spark and sizzle and send a pulse back up the line that'll blow out ever circuit at the other end.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 08, 2023 01:49 PM (N3zMI)

91
LOL. Like you think the gubmint doesn't have the keys to VPN's.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2023 01:46 PM

It's sorta like having a safe deposit box at your bank raises the ~~possibility~~ probability you will be audited by the IRS.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 01:49 PM (enJYY)

92 78
Laneisha Shantrice Henderson

WAKE UP PEOPLE! That is definitely a Latin Mass demanding Roman Catholic person. Support the FBI in its efforts.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 01:47 PM (enJYY)

Sounds . . . ISRAELI!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 08, 2023 01:49 PM (x0n13)

93 Unless the feds actually run the VPN itself there shouldn't be a way to monitor incoming or outgoing data from a particular computer address without the correct encryption key.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 01:44 PM (Gsmsg)
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First is to clandestinely own or operate the VPN network itself. One of the problems with Tor (distributed VPN, sort of), for example, is that state agents own a whole lot of the nodes in the network. An analogue in what has become the commercial VPN space would be a state agent - or an affiliate - owning or otherwise tapping a commercial VPN service.

Second is to have the encryption keys - either because they stole them (or were given them), or because they have means to crack the encryption that they don't talk about.

Third is through network analysis, by checking who contacts what and looking for other identifying marks - browser fingerprinting, for example- to build up the data flow from either end of the transaction, and blacklist people who are trying to dodge surveillance. Most people are sloppy about endpoint practices, and leaks are common.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:49 PM (zxP/x)

94 "You can't put a tap down there - it'll immediately start to spark and sizzle and send a pulse back up the line that'll blow out ever circuit at the other end"

There was a webcam but it went blind.

Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:49 PM (vFG9F)

95 "You can't put a tap down there - it'll immediately start to spark and sizzle and send a pulse back up the line that'll blow out ever circuit at the other end"

There was a webcam but it went blind.
Posted by: fd at December 08, 2023 01:49 PM (vFG9F)
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I've been in The Barrel. NOBODY wants to watch what goes on down there...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:50 PM (7fElN)

96 Sounds . . . ISRAELI!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 08, 2023 01:49 PM (x0n13)

What are some good secret Jewish society names I can throw in my next shitpost?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:51 PM (zZu0s)

97 Just "jaw-boning" according to the Right Reverend David French, patron of Omidyar cucks.

Posted by: GM27, SEP Field Technician at December 08, 2023 01:51 PM (RKLPC)

98 I strongly suspect that this is way more about Telegram and Signal and its analogues than it is about "disinformation" news pushes.

Yup.

I'm a little confused though. Notifications from apps on iOS at least don't go through a centralized server. They're generated locally by the app itself based on whatever service it connects to. I believe Android is the same, because otherwise whatever server that is would be hell on earth to keep running.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 01:52 PM (2ocoG)

99 I turn on my phone in the morning, check for voice mail and text. Turn it off, repeat in the PM. I know my car is out of warranty.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 08, 2023 01:52 PM (0EOe9)

100 Laneisha Shantrice sounds like a Kentucky hillbilly

Posted by: nckate at December 08, 2023 01:52 PM (SnxUt)

101 77..
You have to figure that 99% of VPN traffic is porn.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:46 PM (zZu0s)
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Well, I never...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:47 PM (GBKbO)

We get blackmail in many, many ways...

Posted by: FIB--Men in Black, Deep State Defenders at December 08, 2023 01:52 PM (ynpvh)

102 Big Brother has been around for centuries. The advances in technology was always going to make it worse because it makes it easier. I've done my best to stay off the grid as much as possible. The only thing I haven't been able to avoid is gun purchases and carry licensing . So bottom line I guess I'm on the grid bigley

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:52 PM (WC7c+)

103 They must be nosy little busybodies to sit around all day and watch internet traffic. What a fucked up job.
Posted by: wth at December 08, 2023 01:48 PM (v0R5T)
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I wonder if it's like that scene in The Matrix where Cypher is explaining to Neo how he can interpret the apparently random strings of characters flowing across the screens as activities within the Matrix itself.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:52 PM (7fElN)

104 102 Big Brother has been around for centuries. The advances in technology was always going to make it worse because it makes it easier. I've done my best to stay off the grid as much as possible. The only thing I haven't been able to avoid is gun purchases and carry licensing . So bottom line I guess I'm on the grid bigley
Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:52 PM (WC7c+)

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The panopticon just goes virtual.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:53 PM (GBKbO)

105 They must be nosy little busybodies to sit around all day and watch internet traffic. What a fucked up job.

Pretty sure it all goes into a (freaking huge) database. When they want data on an individual they've already got everything correlated in the background so they can call it up as needed. This is all guess work on my part as I've stayed the hell away from anything government for the last 20+ years.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 08, 2023 01:53 PM (dZVON)

106 I wonder if it's like that scene in The Matrix where Cypher is explaining to Neo how he can interpret the apparently random strings of characters flowing across the screens as activities within the Matrix itself.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:52 PM (7fElN)

And even he was using it for porn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:53 PM (zZu0s)

107 ot:ou essentially have Pittsburgh showing up there at the border.”

Not after last nights game.

Posted by: DaveA at December 08, 2023 01:53 PM (FhXTo)

108
Merry Christmas to both of you and yourn !
Posted by: JT at December 08, 2023 01:35 PM (T4tVD)

JT!!! Merry Christmas! I hope you are well!!
We found a house! The Lord willing, we close on the 28th!!!

Posted by: Moki at December 08, 2023 01:54 PM (N43JC)

109 I'm a little confused though. Notifications from apps on iOS at least don't go through a centralized server. They're generated locally by the app itself based on whatever service it connects to. I believe Android is the same, because otherwise whatever server that is would be hell on earth to keep running.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 08, 2023 01:52 PM (2ocoG)
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Push has to originate from a server and it often gets proxied down to your device. Sometimes this is a direct connection (some Microsoft Exchange implementations are direct from device to server), but it often isn't. And the record of having received a push will be there, and might be sent back to Google or Apple as telemetry.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:54 PM (zxP/x)

110 And even he was using it for porn.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:53 PM (zZu0s)
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The woman in the red dress gets lonely sometimes...

Posted by: Cypher at December 08, 2023 01:54 PM (7fElN)

111 Do a little search on the Hemisphere Project. They cut out the foreign middle man and just farm it out to the telephone companies. While the initial project was a "partnership" with AT&T, when asked, other telephone companies refused to answer whether they are involved in the same project.

It's labeled as a drug trafficker defense. But, they use it however they want. There are no restrictions.

No warrant...just grabbing you phone history etc.

Posted by: Orson at December 08, 2023 01:54 PM (dIske)

112 I've never been on the dark web and wouldn't know where to start.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:54 PM (WC7c+)

113 Tik Tok runs a lot of ads on Fox News aimed at older people.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 08, 2023 01:33 PM (63Dwl)

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Have been a talk radio junkie for 40 years; today for the first time, on my local conservative talk radio station, I started hearing multiple ads for Tik Tok.

Ugh ...

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 08, 2023 01:55 PM (G53Ph)

114 112 I've never been on the dark web and wouldn't know where to start.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:54 PM (WC7c+)

Web of color, H8ter!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 01:55 PM (ynpvh)

115 112 I've never been on the dark web and wouldn't know where to start.
Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:54 PM (WC7c+)

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From what I understand, they're just unlisted sites, usually only accessed through the actual numerical web address.

Dolley has had to do searches through them for her job. She's found her brother's credit card information on it for sale and called him directly to tell him to cancel the card.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

116
I've never been on the dark web and wouldn't know where to start.

Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:54 PM

Turn the lights off in the room where your computer is. D'uh.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 01:57 PM (enJYY)

117 Laneisha Shantrice sounds like a Kentucky hillbilly

I assumed it was a made up name for someone making fun of the FBI for targeting people who attend the Latin Mass

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2023 01:57 PM (RSbhh)

118 Just because I wasn't here for the last thread:

"Mike Johnson Gives Biden an Ultimatum: Either Protect the American Border Or No More Money for Ukraine
—Disinformation Expert Ace"

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How about and. Protect the American Border AAAAAND No More Money For Ukraine!!

I'm so tired of this.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 01:57 PM (dGCAG)

119 115 112 I've never been on the dark web and wouldn't know where to start.
Posted by: Drive By at December 08, 2023 01:54 PM (WC7c+)

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From what I understand, they're just unlisted sites, usually only accessed through the actual numerical web address.

Dolley has had to do searches through them for her job. She's found her brother's credit card information on it for sale and called him directly to tell him to cancel the card.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:57 PM (GBKbO)

Via TOR, or so I hear.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

120 This is heading straight to social credit scores and worse for all of us.

Whether you are a conservative activist who pursues it full time, or someone like me who uses AoS simply as a primary source for information that is not filtered through a partisan leftist point of view (WaPo, NYT, CNN, etc. etc.); we'll all be categorized by our online footprints.

Our time spent here, our comments will all be algorithmically be used to profile and judge us. From a leftist perspective ya think, maybe?

Want to buy a gun or even a house? Want health insurance? Want a fair trial if you ever end up on the outside of the law? The list will be expanded constantly.

It's virtually a cliche now, but 1984 is being implemented. Well, what the heck, if you are a registered Democrat and vote accordingly, you don't get a telescreen in your house. If you aren't an evil person, you have nothing to be concerned about.

Posted by: RM at December 08, 2023 01:58 PM (urbih)

121 Via TOR, or so I hear.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

I thought TOR and ... Silk Road(?) got shut down a decade ago.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:58 PM (zZu0s)

122 Leftists begging for ACWII

Posted by: Skip at December 08, 2023 01:58 PM (L/sed)

123 Push has to originate from a server and it often gets proxied down to your device. Sometimes this is a direct connection (some Microsoft Exchange implementations are direct from device to server), but it often isn't. And the record of having received a push will be there, and might be sent back to Google or Apple as telemetry.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 01:54 PM (zxP/x)

Your comment is scary. It's getting very close to math.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2023 01:59 PM (BdMk6)

124 It should also be noted, U.K. is in many more ways than us, not a free country.

They're an autocracy, with a large deep state that keeps law abiding citizens under surveillance 24 hours a day/7 days a week.

And the British people mostly seem to be fine with that.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:00 PM (dGCAG)

125 124 It should also be noted, U.K. is in many more ways than us, not a free country.

They're an autocracy, with a large deep state that keeps law abiding citizens under surveillance 24 hours a day/7 days a week.

And the British people mostly seem to be fine with that.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:00 PM (dGCAG)

Yeah, the being jailed for posting the wrong thing on social media is a tell.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:00 PM (zZu0s)

126
If you aren't an evil person, you have nothing to be concerned about.

Posted by: RM at December 08, 2023 01:58 PM

I'm neither totally evil nor totally good. Just sorta medieval.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 02:01 PM (enJYY)

127 Rob Reiner is Trending on X-

Is This Something?

Rob Reiner
@robreiner

Christian Nationalism is not only a danger to our Country, it’s a danger to Christianity itself. Our film will be coming to theaters In February. Watch the trailer here.

https://tinyurl.com/bdeywcwm

Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2023 02:01 PM (NpAcC)

128 121 Via TOR, or so I hear.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

I thought TOR and ... Silk Road(?) got shut down a decade ago.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 01:58 PM (zZu0s)

TOR is just software. The Onion Router.
https://www.torproject.org/

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:01 PM (ynpvh)

129 One of the comments from DU posted here was by someone who boasted about going to a '65 Beach Boys concert...yep , DU - a bunch of old hippies.

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2023 02:01 PM (V13WU)

130 To be fair though, there is the Hillary meme guy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:01 PM (zZu0s)

131 This is fine..we just need better candidates....

Posted by: Memedog at December 08, 2023 02:01 PM (8AK1E)

132 I thought TOR and ... Silk Road(?) got shut down a decade ago.

Silk Road got shut down. TOR is not only still active, you can call up a new private window with TOR straight from the Brave browser if you so desire.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 08, 2023 02:01 PM (dZVON)

133 129 One of the comments from DU posted here was by someone who boasted about going to a '65 Beach Boys concert...yep , DU - a bunch of old hippies.
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2023 02:01 PM (V13WU)

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As opposed to all the 29 year olds here.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

134 Christian Nationalism is not only a danger to our Country, it’s a danger to Christianity itself. Our film will be coming to theaters In February. Watch the trailer here.

https://tinyurl.com/bdeywcwm
Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2023 02:01 PM (NpAcC)

Yeah, Rob Reiner is someone I think of when I think of fierce defenders of Christianity.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:02 PM (zZu0s)

135 I would rate this place as Risky and Very Gay.

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2023 02:02 PM (abbhq)

136 These guys understand the value of push notifications:
https://youtu.be/4bJxpveiWpM

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:02 PM (zxP/x)

137 I would rate this place as Risky and Very Gay.
Posted by: Puddinhead at December 08, 2023 02:02 PM (abbhq)
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LOL

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:03 PM (zxP/x)

138 And the British people mostly seem to be fine with that.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:00 PM (dGCAG)

One thing about European history. They have a consistency about them. There is usually a long period of apathy and malaise. Then, when least expected, it gets very very very Bloody very very quickly.

Posted by: Orson at December 08, 2023 02:03 PM (dIske)

139 I read somewhere that TOR was created by the IC itself, so you think you are getting privacy, but really... not so much.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2023 02:04 PM (MeG8a)

140 As opposed to all the 29 year olds here.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

young hippies !

Posted by: runner at December 08, 2023 02:04 PM (V13WU)

141 I've never been on the dark web and wouldn't know where to start.
Posted by: Drive By

It's not as intriguing and interesting as it sounds.

You also need a special browser, as the scripting is different, and conventional browsers don't work.

There are interesting thing to find, but it is difficult to navigate.

Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at December 08, 2023 02:04 PM (vcOmj)

142 I sense a lot of conservative chatter.
I suggest you act preemptively.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM (J8LnB)

143 Legal Group, Conservative News Outlets File Lawsuit Against State Department To Prevent ‘Censorship’ Operations
JAMES LYNCH INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER December 06, 2023

The state of Texas, the New Civil Liberties Alliance (NCLA) and two conservative media outlets are suing the State Department for allegedly working to suppress conservative speech online.

The State Department allegedly attempted to censor speech online and funded organizations targeting conservative media outlets, the NCLA, The Federalist and the Daily Wire claimed in their lawsuit Wednesday. (RELATED: FBI Agent Who Won’t Testify Before Jim Jordan Had ‘Mandate’ To Pressure Platforms Into Censorship, House Report Finds)

The lawsuit seeks to “halt one of the most egregious government operations to censor the American press in the history of the nation,” the complaint, filed Tuesday, said. (RELATED: Government Censors Linked Hunter Biden Laptop Story To Apparent ‘Web Of Falsehoods’ About Joe Biden, Lawsuit Reveals)

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM (krqg6)

144 First Fetterman makes sense now Wyden. What the hell is going on?

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM (Tll0L)

145 132 Silk Road got shut down. TOR is not only still active, you can call up a new private window with TOR straight from the Brave browser if you so desire.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 08, 2023 02:01 PM (dZVON)

What kind of illegal shit are all you 75 year olds buying?

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM (sm6Pk)

146 141 As opposed to all the 29 year olds here.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:02 PM (GBKbO)

young hippies !
Posted by: runner at December 08, 2023 02:04 PM (V13WU)

"IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE TJM REALLY IS SOMETHING CLOSE TO 29!!!"

- Ben R.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM (N3zMI)

147 145 First Fetterman makes sense now Wyden. What the hell is going on?

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM (Tll0L)

AI generated?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM (ynpvh)

148 What kind of illegal shit are all you 75 year olds buying?
Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM (sm6Pk)

Betty White and Barbara Streisand porn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:06 PM (zZu0s)

149 147 "IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE TJM REALLY IS SOMETHING CLOSE TO 29!!!"

- Ben R.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM (N3zMI)

========

I'm almost 40 now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:06 PM (GBKbO)

150 146 132 Silk Road got shut down. TOR is not only still active, you can call up a new private window with TOR straight from the Brave browser if you so desire.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 08, 2023 02:01 PM (dZVON)

What kind of illegal shit are all you 75 year olds buying?

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM (sm6Pk)

Bibles?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:06 PM (ynpvh)

151 It is now more properly labled as:

National Socialist Central Media

You are free there to type anything they'll allow you to type. You are free there to say anything they'll allow you to say.

The list of things you are not allowed to type or say, will keep you tied up in little knotzis.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 08, 2023 02:06 PM (e6UQI)

152 One of the simplest methods of identifying networks of an organization and organizational hierarchy is watching message frequency and following the path of a message.

If I message four people daily, ten people weekly, and 100 people yearly, it's child's play to figure out who my circle of people are, and to whom I'm closest.

Also, consider a top down organization. One person regularly messages 12. Those 12 people regularly message 10 new people after an hour or so. The ten people regularly message each other, and sometimes people in the other groups of 10. Again, child's play to determine who's the leader, who's middle management, and who's the individual contributor.

Even though you haven't got a clue what the content of the messages are, you have a good idea who's in the org and what their position is. As a law enforcement agency, you can then decide who to watch and how to spend your time, depending on your goals.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:06 PM (Odg76)

153 State Of Texas Joins The Federalist, Daily Wire In Suing The Federal Censorship-Industrial Complex
BY: JOY PULLMANN DECEMBER 06, 2023
This is just the latest in a series of major investigations and court cases in the last year to uncover federal censorship laundered through private cutouts.

The U.S. State Department is violating the U.S. Constitution by funding technology to silence Americans who question government claims, says a lawsuit filed Tuesday by The Federalist, The Daily Wire, and the state of Texas.

The three are suing to stop “one of the most audacious, manipulative, secretive, and gravest abuses of power and infringements of First Amendment rights by the federal government in American history,” says the lawsuit. It exposes federal censorship activities even beyond the dramatic discoveries in a pending U.S. Supreme Court case, Murthy v. Missouri (also known as Missouri v. Biden).

This lawsuit alleges the State Department is illegally using a counterterrorism center intended to fight foreign “disinformation” instead to stop American citizens from speaking and listening to information government officials dislike. Other recent investigations have also found government

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at December 08, 2023 02:06 PM (krqg6)

154 I think it's too build a list of who is using various "bad" services - Telegram, Signal, etc. End-to-end encrypted decentralized messaging is something *no* government likes. Spying on push systems will give them a window into who is using those platforms, and depending on what information is available, why those platforms are being used.
I strongly suspect that this is way more about Telegram and Signal and its analogues than it is about "disinformation" news pushes.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

====

Assuming they've got the computational power for it and making the (very reasonable) assumption that all of this notification data is timestamped, they can also potentially figure out with a decent amount of probability who is talking to whom on these apps, even if the notification data itself doesn't include an ID of the message sender. That alone would be valuable intel.

Posted by: can of spam at December 08, 2023 02:06 PM (7oNMO)

155 Years ago there was something called the Usenet.
I think certain sites base their user experience on usenet. 4chan, Reddit, etc.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2023 02:07 PM (MeG8a)

156 156 Years ago there was something called the Usenet.
I think certain sites base their user experience on usenet. 4chan, Reddit, etc.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 08, 2023 02:07 PM (MeG8a)

I think usenet is still around.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:07 PM (zZu0s)

157
First Fetterman makes sense now Wyden. What the hell is going on?

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM

It took almost two years to hit 'peak stupid' under O'Biden but when a fairly recent stroke victim (Fetterman) is making a lot of sense, maybe the rest of the country will catch up soon.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 02:07 PM (enJYY)

158 I've been in The Barrel. NOBODY wants to watch what goes on down there...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:50 PM (7fElN)

At least Ace flushes it out every few years Hamas-style...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 08, 2023 02:08 PM (wtvvX)

159 159 I've been in The Barrel. NOBODY wants to watch what goes on down there...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 01:50 PM (7fElN)

At least Ace flushes it out every few years Hamas-style...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 08, 2023 02:08 PM (wtvvX)

Colon-blow.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:08 PM (ynpvh)

160 Even though you haven't got a clue what the content of the messages are, you have a good idea who's in the org and what their position is. As a law enforcement agency, you can then decide who to watch and how to spend your time, depending on your goals.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:06 PM (Odg76)
----
Yep. Analyzing networks like this is easy-peasy with today's technology.

"knowledge maps" can show visually how networks are structured and thus you can find key nodes within those networks without any direct knowledge of those nodes at all.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at December 08, 2023 02:08 PM (7fElN)

161 Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:02 PM (zZu0s)

I listened to about 30 seconds of that clip
If you don't want to have Progressive politics as your religion with a little dab of Jesus mixed in, OMG You want America to be a Christian theocracy!!.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2023 02:08 PM (RSbhh)

162 South American gangs are breaking into million dollar homes.

In the United States.

Posted by: It's happening at December 08, 2023 02:09 PM (WLG+Q)

163 It's not as intriguing and interesting as it sounds.

You also need a special browser, as the scripting is different, and conventional browsers don't work.

There are interesting thing to find, but it is difficult to navigate.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at December 08, 2023 02:04 PM (vcOmj)

Is it true that on the dark web, one can order illegal drugs and have them delivered to one's door?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2023 02:09 PM (BdMk6)

164 First Fetterman makes sense now Wyden. What the hell is going on?
Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:05 PM (Tll0L)
++++
Think back to pre-2008. Sometimes - not often, but sometimes, a Democrat made sense. He was usually censured as a result like Jim Trafficant, but it did happen sometimes.

Then, in 2008, they tried to fire up the Large Hadron Collider and it blew up. When that catastrophic failure occurred, it shunted us into an alternate dimension (or timeline, perhaps) where everything is completely insane.

In 2009-2013, they got the thing to work successfully and collected data. Ostensibly, this was purely theoretical research, but the real purpose was to figure out how to get us out of Bizarro universe.

The first real experiments began in 2015, which were not successful but may have influenced the 2016 election. After 2018, it was shut down for major physical plant upgrades.

The LHC has resumed operations since 2022, and it is possible that this time they are finally able to start nudging us back into a recognizable dimension/timeline.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:10 PM (zxP/x)

165 Even though you haven't got a clue what the content of the messages are, you have a good idea who's in the org and what their position is. As a law enforcement agency, you can then decide who to watch and how to spend your time, depending on your goals.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:06 PM (Odg76)
++++
Network analysis is a major area of both research and operations.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:11 PM (zxP/x)

166 South American gangs are breaking into million dollar homes.

In the United States.
Posted by: It's happening at December 08, 2023 02:09 PM (WLG+Q)

Well yeah there’s tuff to steal there. No point in breaking into $175k homes.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:11 PM (Tll0L)

167 Is it true that on the dark web, one can order illegal drugs and have them delivered to one's door?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2023 02:09 PM (BdMk6

Not just that. You can actually order a Lithuanian servant girl and have her delivered in 48 hours by FedEx.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 02:11 PM (Gsmsg)

168 164 It's not as intriguing and interesting as it sounds.

You also need a special browser, as the scripting is different, and conventional browsers don't work.

There are interesting thing to find, but it is difficult to navigate.
Posted by: A face in the crowd..... at December 08, 2023 02:04 PM (vcOmj)

Is it true that on the dark web, one can order illegal drugs and have them delivered to one's door?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2023 02:09 PM (BdMk6)

I'd say ask Hunter, but I think the FIB and SS got him his.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:11 PM (ynpvh)

169 Must Protect CHOCOLATE JESUS and throw Joe Biden under the bus....

Repeat............

Repeat............

Repeat............

Posted by: CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, etc... at December 08, 2023 02:12 PM (Mig/N)

170 Why can't Stasi just ask 'sum dude' who happens to work at Google to just give them the info. Do they really believe that asking 'another guy' sitting at same to to ask 'sum dude' on your behalf as a cutout is magic?

Yes, yes it is!

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 08, 2023 02:12 PM (qtXM6)

171
South American gangs are breaking into million dollar homes.

In the United States.

Posted by: It's happening at December 08, 2023 02:09 PM

It's been happening in the general area of my neighborhood for months now. Hire Jose to cut your lawn, Jose watches your comings and goings. Go out to dinner every Wednesday evening, Jose comes back. Wednesday evening.

Now I could have used the name 'Jesus' just as easily, but I kinda want him to come back. Any night he chooses.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 02:13 PM (enJYY)

172 Is it true that on the dark web, one can order illegal drugs and have them delivered to one's door?
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2023 02:09 PM (BdMk6)
++++
https://youtu.be/49c9jpw5cn8?t=228

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:14 PM (zxP/x)

173 Always strange when something happens in a place we're you used to live. The Temple Israel shooting took place right near where I lived in law school. In fact the temple is right down the road from the school. The guy seemed like a one off, albeit dangerous

Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 08, 2023 02:14 PM (wukIh)

174 Where's that 'So It Begins' guy???

@paulsperry_ 1m
BREAKING: FBI Director Christopher Wray has elevated hate crimes -- including anti-black, anti-semitic and anti-Muslim/anti-Arab hate crimes -- to "National Security Priority"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 08, 2023 02:14 PM (IG4Id)

175 When I see a Swiss village I think government waste. As in, fuck our government wastes a lot of money. Something has clearly gone wrong.

Posted by: DOYLE at December 08, 2023 02:15 PM (Z8Yh2)

176 > Is it true that on the dark web, one can order illegal drugs and have them delivered to one's door?

Silk Road and Silk Road 2 were exactly this. I'm sure there are many analogues in operation today.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:15 PM (Odg76)

177 I do hope several people go on the Twitter feed of Rob Reiner and mocked the heck out of him for his "OMG-Conservative Christians are the biggest threat to America ever!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2023 02:15 PM (RSbhh)

178 It is network mapping, we face a determined political foe ran professionally by an intelligence who considers itself in a total war with its opponent.

They are approaching this as a multi-discipline hybrid war endeavor.

Meanwhile the non-communist American public cannot be bothered to be bothered.

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2023 02:15 PM (X0I7i)

179
The US gubmint has long considered encryption, good encryption, to be "munitions".

Bob@NSA has back doors into most of the everyday stuff -- he can see it all if it wants to. It's the goods stuff, the stuff he doesn't have a backdoor to, that they worry about.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at December 08, 2023 02:15 PM (Mzdiz)

180 175 Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 08, 2023 02:14 PM (IG4Id)

Notice any demographics missing?

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2023 02:16 PM (X0I7i)

181 Not just that. You can actually order a Lithuanian servant girl and have her delivered in 48 hours by FedEx.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 08, 2023 02:11 PM (Gsmsg)

Do they give warranties on Lithuanian servant girls?

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2023 02:16 PM (BdMk6)

182 Apparently an agreement reached between between the White House and House of Reps - the White House will continue to not
defend the US borders as long as the House of Reps doesn't pay to defend Ukraine borders.
Both seemed satisfied with the decision.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (qtXM6)

183 The Alex Jones video in the sidebar is the tops.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (zxP/x)

184 175 Where's that 'So It Begins' guy???

@paulsperry_ 1m
BREAKING: FBI Director Christopher Wray has elevated hate crimes -- including anti-black, anti-semitic and anti-Muslim/anti-Arab hate crimes -- to "National Security Priority"

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 08, 2023 02:14 PM (IG4Id)

And Gov't hate against Christians? I mean you have anti-Muslim, and that's a religion...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (ynpvh)

185 Deadspin seems nervous after the family of the little boy in the face paint and headdress promised to sue.

https://is.gd/c5Q037

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (Odg76)

186 FedEx will deliver your servant girl to the house next door. And a day late.

Posted by: nckate at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (SnxUt)

187 I'd say ask Hunter, but I think the FIB and SS got him his.
------
That's what ATMs are for!

zerohedge @zerohedge 15h
Hunter had $1,664,004 in “ATM/Cash Withdrawals”, spent $683,212 in payments to “various women” and $188,960 on “adult entertainment”.

How the hell do you withdraw 1.7 million from an ATM? That's like 4000 daily trips, or every day for 11 years.

𝐉𝐎𝐇𝐍 𝐖𝐈𝐂𝐊 𝕏ʰⁱᵗᵐᵃⁿ 🏴‍☠️ @imUrB00gieman 1h
Who the fk withdraws $1.6M in cash from his ATM???

Catturd @catturd2 38m
The world’s biggest entitled crackhead.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (krqg6)

188 181 Notice any demographics missing?
Posted by: sven at December 08, 2023 02:16 PM (X0I7i)

There's nothing preventing Straight White Men from converting to Islam.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (sm6Pk)

189 Is it true that on the dark web, one can order illegal drugs and have them delivered to one's door?

Drugs, fully automatic weapons, helicopters. You know, all that shit we left behind in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 08, 2023 02:18 PM (dZVON)

190 Social media was ALWAYS an op.

Get off of it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 08, 2023 02:18 PM (xcxpd)

191 If you don't want to have Progressive politics as your religion with a little dab of Jesus mixed in,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2023 02:08 PM (RSbhh)

That right there is a perfect description of too many people's spiritual lives. The Jesus part allows them to think they have God's approval along with their progressivism.

Posted by: Emmie at December 08, 2023 02:18 PM (Sf2cq)

192 You'd spend all day at the ATM.

Heh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:18 PM (zZu0s)

193
Yep, the crime rate is going up. The illegals have to pay the cartels that brought them here. It's going to get worse.

Posted by: four seasons at December 08, 2023 02:18 PM (ichPI)

194 Yeah, the being jailed for posting the wrong thing on social media is a tell.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:00 PM (zZu0s)

I forget his name at the moment, but we do have the guy here, who is not yet in jail, the guy who did the Hillory meme. Last I heard his sentence was stayed (or whatever they call it), and I thought it might be possible the court was going to toss the conviction.

But yeah, the Brits are ahead of us, but our autocrats are using the "threat to democracy" as their justification for all the autocratic clampdowns they want to enact.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:19 PM (dGCAG)

195 This busty brunette in a car is really confused by all this, because a guy told her that "push notification" was the new way to say "booty call" - but she now thinks that he might have been lying:
https://is.gd/91WCzR

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:19 PM (zxP/x)

196 We’re sorry our attack on a child caused any harm. Oopsie.

/ Deadspin

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:19 PM (Tll0L)

197
Yeah, Rob Reiner is someone I think of when I think of fierce defenders of Christianity.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:02 PM (zZu0s)
**************

Samuel Sey
@SlowToWrite

Since David French and Russell Moore have teamed up with leftist atheists, LGBT-affirming “Christians”, and other heretics to attack “Christian nationalism,” it’s hard to believe this is actually a legitimate attack on Christian nationalism—instead of an attack on Christianity.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2023 02:20 PM (NpAcC)

198 I've had occasion to need to take a lot of money from an ATM. If this has ever happened to you, you know that there are daily limits and they usually aren't very high. When this has come up, I've needed to call my bank and request a temporary increase.

If Hunter is pulling *that* much money out of ATMs, that means he either doesn't have an ATM limit, or that limit is extremely high. Someone at the bank had to approve that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:20 PM (zxP/x)

199 189 Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (sm6Pk)

That's where this winds up unless Xianity gets its head out of its ass.

Posted by: sven at December 08, 2023 02:20 PM (X0I7i)

200 184 The Alex Jones video in the sidebar is the tops.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (zxP/x)

Well, now I'm a little worried about Alex Jones.

Posted by: Emmie at December 08, 2023 02:20 PM (Sf2cq)

201 196 This busty brunette in a car is really confused by all this, because a guy told her that "push notification" was the new way to say "booty call" - but she now thinks that he might have been lying:
https://is.gd/91WCzR
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:19 PM (zxP/x)

She looks familiar. Cannot quite put my finger on it aside from a vague resemblance to one of the gals off Grimm.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:21 PM (zZu0s)

202 193 You'd spend all day at the ATM.

Heh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:18 PM (zZu0s)

or have an army of feds at hundreds of ATMs do it for you...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:21 PM (ynpvh)

203 199 I've had occasion to need to take a lot of money from an ATM. If this has ever happened to you, you know that there are daily limits and they usually aren't very high. When this has come up, I've needed to call my bank and request a temporary increase.

If Hunter is pulling *that* much money out of ATMs, that means he either doesn't have an ATM limit, or that limit is extremely high. Someone at the bank had to approve that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:20 PM (zxP/x)

========

He's pulling thousands of dollars at a time. Maybe cleaning out ATMs of their reserves completely every time he shows up.

But, we apparently all know someone just like him, according to Mika.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

204 FedEx will deliver your servant girl to the house next door. And a day late.
Posted by: nckate at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (SnxUt)

Fedex is awesome. I had a package I was waiting on, and when there was a storm that hit Texas, they delayed delivery by a week or so.

I was in Colorado, western part of the state. The package was coming from California. But sure, the storm in Texas meant they couldn't deliver it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:22 PM (dGCAG)

205 Demon taters?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 08, 2023 02:22 PM (xcxpd)

206 Must protect Obama from Biden Scandels.

Repeat.................

Repeat.................

Repeat.................

Repeat.................

Posted by: CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, etc... at December 08, 2023 02:22 PM (Mig/N)

207 My atm limit is $1000 a day. That’s a lot of days at the atm.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:22 PM (Tll0L)

208
The Alex Jones video in the sidebar is the tops.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM

Glad it made it there. I watched every minute this morning. The Alex Jones 'I want to date you' phone call to 'Tater' was my favorite part. Definite Moron must watch.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 02:22 PM (enJYY)

209 208 My atm limit is $1000 a day. That’s a lot of days at the atm.
Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:22 PM (Tll0L)

======

But you're not somebody. You're little people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

210 Two yoots in London beat a Jewish woman unconscious. It's a good thing even pepper spray is illegal, otherwise the Jewish woman might have harmed one of her attackers.

https://is.gd/usSeNT

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:23 PM (Odg76)

211 Trump Faces 17 Years in Prison If Hunter Biden Convicted

Posted by: CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, etc... at December 08, 2023 02:23 PM (Mig/N)

212 This busty brunette in a car is really confused by all this, because a guy told her that "push notification" was the new way to say "booty call" - but she now thinks that he might have been lying:
https://is.gd/91WCzR
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:19 PM (zxP/x)

Yeah, that's a total package right there.
Want.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 08, 2023 02:23 PM (xcxpd)

213 He's pulling thousands of dollars at a time. Maybe cleaning out ATMs of their reserves completely every time he shows up.

But, we apparently all know someone just like him, according to Mika.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:21 PM (GBKbO)
++++
Maybe. It's got to be a ton of transactions anyway. Besides your bank's daily withdrawal limit, most ATMs - the machines themselves - have per-transaction limits. Only so many bills can be shoved through the slot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:23 PM (zxP/x)

214 208 My atm limit is $1000 a day. That’s a lot of days at the atm.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:22 PM (Tll0L)

$300 per transaction.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:23 PM (ynpvh)

215 210 208 My atm limit is $1000 a day. That’s a lot of days at the atm.
Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:22 PM (Tll0L)

======

But you're not somebody. You're little people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:22 PM (GBKbO)

And little people get stepped on.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at December 08, 2023 02:24 PM (xcxpd)

216 My atm limit is $1000 a day. That’s a lot of days at the atm.

Not sure what my ATM limit is. Never had enough in my account to be able to hit it. So it's north of 40 bucks, somewhere.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 08, 2023 02:24 PM (dZVON)

217 He's pulling thousands of dollars at a time. Maybe cleaning out ATMs of their reserves completely every time he shows up.

But, we apparently all know someone just like him, according to Mika.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

I thought there was like a $300 limit on how much you could take out of an ATM.

A friend needed to borrow some money recently. I took my ancient checkbook to the actual teller desk and the guy just blinked at me. Then he asked why my account number looked funny. I said I had opened it in about 1994- about three bank consolidations ago, when it was Citizen's Bank of Indiana, not 5/3.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:24 PM (zZu0s)

218
Fedex is awesome. I had a package I was waiting on, and when there was a storm that hit Texas, they delayed delivery by a week or so.

I was in Colorado, western part of the state. The package was coming from California. But sure, the storm in Texas meant they couldn't deliver it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:22 PM (dGCAG)

It’s all integrated. A storm in Texas caused planes to be grounded which can’t get to California to fly your package to Colorado. It’s why a snowstorm in Minnesota causes delta to cancel flights between Los Angeles and Seattle.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:24 PM (Tll0L)

219 Abolish The Federal Government.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 08, 2023 02:24 PM (R/m4+)

220 Posted by: Sid at December 08, 2023 02:23 PM (7U4AD)

=======

It's funny because the towers had defunded the police.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:24 PM (GBKbO)

221 218 He's pulling thousands of dollars at a time. Maybe cleaning out ATMs of their reserves completely every time he shows up.

But, we apparently all know someone just like him, according to Mika.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:21 PM (GBKbO)

I thought there was like a $300 limit on how much you could take out of an ATM.

A friend needed to borrow some money recently. I took my ancient checkbook to the actual teller desk and the guy just blinked at me. Then he asked why my account number looked funny. I said I had opened it in about 1994- about three bank consolidations ago, when it was Citizen's Bank of Indiana, not 5/3.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:24 PM (zZu0s)

5/3rds of a bank? Sounds bloated.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:25 PM (ynpvh)

222 I tried to buy a new car once by using cash from my debit card. The bank was like nice try come get a check.

Posted by: nckate at December 08, 2023 02:25 PM (SnxUt)

223 I missed the last thread so I have to ask if anyone noted that we don't need new immigration laws when the existing ones are not enforced through administrative discreation.

In fact, any new laws are almost certain to fuck with some form of amnesty.

IT'S A TRAP.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2023 02:25 PM (aD39U)

224 I wonder if there's anyone at InfoWars whose job it is to sometimes say over the earpiece, "calm it down, Alex. You're okay. Take a breath."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:25 PM (zxP/x)

225 225 I wonder if there's anyone at InfoWars whose job it is to sometimes say over the earpiece, "calm it down, Alex. You're okay. Take a breath."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:25 PM (zxP/x)

=======

"You are not a god."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 02:26 PM (GBKbO)

226 The Alex Jones video in the sidebar is the tops.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (zxP/x)

Well, now I'm a little worried about Alex Jones.
Posted by: Emmie at December 08, 2023 02:20 PM (Sf2cq)

For years they had most of us convinced Alex Jones was a nutjob. There are people here who still believe it.

The thing is though, Alex gets info from different sources, and like any type of intelligence operation, no doubt there are false statements he receives, BECAUSE other intelligence operations want to discredit him.

They were very successful at keeping many of us fooled for a long time. Most of us, I'd assume, aren't fooled anymore.

Alex is usually right. And that does mean they might have to go to Plan C to shut him up.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:27 PM (dGCAG)

227 Outstanding post, Ace. I didn't know that GDI was an effin' Brit dodge to stifle the freedom and liberty of Americans. I thought we had that discussion sorted out 250 years ago. But autocrats gotta autocrat. Patents of nobility next on the agenda? Silk stockings and wigs? Bowing and scraping? Better grab the guns first, like Lexington and Concord II.

Posted by: mrp at December 08, 2023 02:27 PM (rj6Yv)

228 200 189 Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 02:17 PM (sm6Pk)

That's where this winds up unless Xianity gets its head out of its ass.
Posted by: sven at December 08, 2023 02:20 PM (X0I7i)

Absolutely.

Told for years you can't touch "certain" protected classes, then suddenly "Allah demands you kill them if you want to get to heaven"?

It's going to be an easy choice for men.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 02:27 PM (sm6Pk)

229 Under Joe Biden, everyones 401k is now a 101k !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 02:28 PM (Mig/N)

230 https://is.gd/91WCzR

I could dive in and never find my way out.

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 08, 2023 02:29 PM (Gse2f)

231
I wonder if there's anyone at InfoWars whose job it is to sometimes say over the earpiece, "calm it down, Alex. You're okay. Take a breath."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:25 PM

In a contest for 'raspiest voice' I gotta give a slight edge to RFK Jr but in a photo finish. But damn, the part where Alex and Tucker have a couple of adult beverages and call 'Tater' on the phone had me spilling a gut.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 02:29 PM (enJYY)

232 Some time or another today I'm going to have to get dressed and go grocery shopping. The larder is thinning out.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 08, 2023 02:29 PM (BdMk6)

233 > This busty brunette in a car

Lucia Lachkovic Javorcekova
Google says she's a Playmate.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:29 PM (Odg76)

234
223 I tried to buy a new car once by using cash from my debit card. The bank was like nice try come get a check.
Posted by: nckate at December 08, 2023 02:25 PM (SnxUt)

#MeToo
Went to the bank to withdraw cash. I think it was $15k for a car. They said I need to make an appointment to withdraw that much money. I was like bitch please, give me my ducking money. After a chat with the branch manager they relented.
Give me my fucking money.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:29 PM (Tll0L)

235 230 Under Joe Biden, everyones 401k is now a 101k !!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 02:28 PM (Mig/N)

Waiting for it to be sucked into the Social Security "Lock Box" for "our benefit"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:29 PM (ynpvh)

236 5/3rds of a bank? Sounds bloated.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:25 PM (ynpvh)

Sounds like we're becoming 3/5 of a citizen.

Posted by: mrp at December 08, 2023 02:29 PM (rj6Yv)

237 Apropos of nothing, I received, by mail for some reason, a $300 check as a rebate from my Alabama state taxes.

Apparently we have a surplus.

Considering I barely paid them $400 for last year, I got a deal.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 08, 2023 02:30 PM (aD39U)

238 232 In a contest for 'raspiest voice' I gotta give a slight edge to RFK Jr but in a photo finish. But damn, the part where Alex and Tucker have a couple of adult beverages and call 'Tater' on the phone had me spilling a gut.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 02:29 PM (enJYY)

Sports radio guy Scott Ferrall has them beat.

Posted by: XTC at December 08, 2023 02:30 PM (sm6Pk)

239 I wonder if there's anyone at InfoWars whose job it is to sometimes say over the earpiece, "calm it down, Alex. You're okay. Take a breath."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:25 PM (zxP/x)

Crowder does that sometimes. Alex is now part of their outfit. It's fun watching Alex get worked up, and when Crowder calls him on it, Alex gets awfully sheepish, and recognizes he's going overboard. He's got a good sense of humor about all of it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:30 PM (dGCAG)

240 Alex Jones says something like smoking a pack of cigarettes will instantly kill you. Which is insane on the surface. But his underlying point that smoking will kill you is correct.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:31 PM (Tll0L)

241 I've had occasion to need to take a lot of money from an ATM. If this has ever happened to you, you know that there are daily limits and they usually aren't very high. When this has come up, I've needed to call my bank and request a temporary increase.

If Hunter is pulling *that* much money out of ATMs, that means he either doesn't have an ATM limit, or that limit is extremely high. Someone at the bank had to approve that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:20 PM (zxP/x)
******
I'm sure he used the- "Do you know who my father is?" line or Daddy made a phone call.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 08, 2023 02:31 PM (NpAcC)

242 Went to the bank to withdraw cash. I think it was $15k for a car. They said I need to make an appointment to withdraw that much money. I was like bitch please, give me my ducking money. After a chat with the branch manager they relented.
Give me my fucking money.

Surprised they didn't have an officer waiting to speak with you outside so you could be tossed down the civil forfeiture hole.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 08, 2023 02:31 PM (dZVON)

243 62 I see push notifications as more operant conditioning than anything else. Always trying to keep you attached to the phone.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 08, 2023 01:44 PM (lTGtQ)

Thanks for this. The phrase "operant conditioning" had dropped off my radar, and it's surely relevant here.

Posted by: m at December 08, 2023 02:31 PM (T7nlx)

244 Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:29 PM (Odg76)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2023 02:31 PM (RSbhh)

245 Even though the experiment is over, the still make people go through a maze.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 08, 2023 02:32 PM (J8LnB)

246 It’s all integrated. A storm in Texas caused planes to be grounded which can’t get to California to fly your package to Colorado. It’s why a snowstorm in Minnesota causes delta to cancel flights between Los Angeles and Seattle.
Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:24 PM (Tll0L)

Nonsense.

It was being driven. Fedex is a shitty company.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

247 Surprised they didn't have an officer waiting to speak with you outside so you could be tossed down the civil forfeiture hole.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at December 08, 2023 02:31 PM (dZVON)

The seller was there with me. I literally said to the manager I am buying a car from this person. Here is our bill of sale pre filled. He has the title. I need to pay him. We can sign the title and everything in front of you if you’d like to show this isn’t something illegal.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:34 PM (Tll0L)

248
I can withdrawal $500 from the outside drive-by ATM at my credit union, but if I want $1,000 I gotta come inside. All during covid $1,000 at the ATM was no problem.

So I come inside and cough a lot.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 08, 2023 02:34 PM (enJYY)

249 Are we back to the Government saying that you need only one toilet paper tissue to wipe your ass to stop Global Warming yet ???

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 02:34 PM (Mig/N)

250 250 Are we back to the Government saying that you need only one toilet paper tissue to wipe your ass to stop Global Warming yet ???
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 02:34 PM (Mig/N)

Single ply.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:35 PM (zZu0s)

251 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:35 PM (zZu0s)

252 Are we back to the Government saying that you need only one toilet paper tissue to wipe your ass to stop Global Warming yet ???
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 02:34 PM (Mig/N)

Can you spare a square?

Posted by: Elaine Benes at December 08, 2023 02:35 PM (aD39U)

253 Who knew being a hateful sow had consequences? NYU student who tore down kidnapped Israeli posters had her scholarship rescinded, got suspended from school, and kicked out of the dorms.

Chef's kiss: She's also short, fat, and ugly.

https://is.gd/vUbN81

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (Odg76)

254 All the push notifications I get are from sources that came on the phone. Feds must think I'm a leftist who buys a lot of cars.

Posted by: javems at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (8I4hW)

255 250 Are we back to the Government saying that you need only one toilet paper tissue to wipe your ass to stop Global Warming yet ???

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 02:34 PM (Mig/N)

I think they want us to use our hands for that.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (ynpvh)

256 Nonsense.

It was being driven. Fedex is a shitty company.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:33 PM (dGCAG)

You think your package was the only one on the truck? FedEx has millions upon millions of packages every day with thousands of planes and trucks in transit. It’s all integrated and relies on JIT delivery. And if there’s a major delay anywhere in that network the whole thing breaks down.

Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (Tll0L)

257
Stock up people. The ptb are trying to kill us all.

Posted by: four seasons at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (ichPI)

258 MrComer: Mr. Biden can you explain these deductions on your Federal Income Tax.....

Mr. Comer: Fuck, Mum Job Coke, 10% FBG, and Massage by Transgender Hookers ???

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (Mig/N)

259 If Hunter is pulling *that* much money out of ATMs, that means he either doesn't have an ATM limit, or that limit is extremely high. Someone at the bank had to approve that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 08, 2023 02:20 PM (zxP/x)

Are you suggesting different rules for he, but not for me?

I can't believe it. I shan't believe it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:38 PM (dGCAG)

260 Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (Odg76)

I may be alone here, but it wouldn't make any difference if she looked like "the total package" Playmate. She'd still be an evil woman who deserved what she got.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2023 02:39 PM (RSbhh)

261 241 Alex Jones says something like smoking a pack of cigarettes will instantly kill you. Which is insane on the surface. But his underlying point that smoking will kill you is correct.
Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:31 PM (Tll0L)

He's saying the first one is a gateway?

Posted by: m at December 08, 2023 02:39 PM (T7nlx)

262 Are we back to the Government saying that you need only one toilet paper tissue to wipe your ass to stop Global Warming yet ???
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 02:34 PM (Mig/N)

Nice point. That's the difference between the Barry and Joey regimes. Barry loves to lecture : "You don't need that" or "You have enough". Joey just walks up to the podium and tells you it's raining while he pisses on your shoes. And if you don't like it, why, he'll tell you to pound sand, Fats.

Posted by: mrp at December 08, 2023 02:39 PM (rj6Yv)

263 You have to figure that 99% of VPN traffic is porn.
Posted by: Aetius4

....

Quite a bit is gamers.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 08, 2023 02:39 PM (4aAvC)

264 MrComer: Mr. Biden can you explain these deductions on your Federal Income Tax.....

Mr. Comer: Fuck, Mum Job Coke, 10% FBG, and Massage by Transgender Hookers ???

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (Mig/N)

-----------

"And a couple thousand abortions, including a couple dozen for cousins."

Posted by: ShainS -- CISA Cognitive Security Agent at December 08, 2023 02:40 PM (W6rtH)

265 You think your package was the only one on the truck? FedEx has millions upon millions of packages every day with thousands of planes and trucks in transit. It’s all integrated and relies on JIT delivery. And if there’s a major delay anywhere in that network the whole thing breaks down.
Posted by: Montec at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (Tll0L)

Bullshit. Then get out of business, you piece of shit company, because you can't do the one thing you're paid to do.

Let China take over, I'm tired of excuses for companies that can't do basic tasks. The Post Office is better than Fedex.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 08, 2023 02:40 PM (dGCAG)

266 They could have direct access to the servers, and they could have the keys.

I wouldn't put either past the feds.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, celebrating anarchy and 50s B-movies with Joe Dante at December 08, 2023 01:45 PM (GBKbO)

The standard encryption algorithm has a 56 bit key rather than a 64 bit key. Most opine that the reason for that is to allow the government to decipher them without a key.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 08, 2023 02:41 PM (eoQWY)

267 252 Nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Johnson Work Laptop at December 08, 2023 02:35 PM (zZu0s)

Posted by: m at December 08, 2023 02:41 PM (T7nlx)

268 I'll repeat what I said several times:

Merrick Garland was the 5th vote to end free speech in America.
They had it all prepped and ready to go once Hillary took her hoof off the Bible.
FCC and FEC regulations to end anonymous comments and require "journalist licenses" for any blogger.
All to stop those sources of "fake news."
Why do you think they were pushing that line so hard when everyone knew Hillary was going to win?

This blog, and every conservative site would be illegal.

When she lost, they found one of Obama unconstitutional successes, that all the courts all blessed, Operation Chokepoint.

And it's been billions of Illeagal funding since.

But the most important issue to Republicans is, "We need to tell the TRUTH about Donald Trump! Even if conservatives don't want to hear it! We need to MoveOn!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 08, 2023 02:43 PM (TzW+Y)

269 All the push notifications I get are from sources that came on the phone. Feds must think I'm a leftist who buys a lot of cars.
Posted by: javems at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (8I4hW)

Yeah, my respect for ad targeting and directed algorithms went way down when I saw them in action. It is vanishingly rare that they suggest anything to me new and interesting. Far more often they blitz me with things after I bought it.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 08, 2023 02:44 PM (eoQWY)

270 254 Who knew being a hateful sow had consequences? NYU student who tore down kidnapped Israeli posters had her scholarship rescinded, got suspended from school, and kicked out of the dorms.

Chef's kiss: She's also short, fat, and ugly.

https://is.gd/vUbN81

Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (Odg76)

I'm tuning up my tiny violin...

Posted by: Tex Lovera at December 08, 2023 02:45 PM (wtvvX)

271 *yawn*

Nothing so boring as we find out our government lies about everything. And I'll do anything to protect those lies.

Dull.

Posted by: Mark in South Jordan UT at December 08, 2023 02:49 PM (rplLg)

272 5/3rds of a bank? Sounds bloated.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at December 08, 2023 02:25 PM (ynpvh)

I think the original bank was on the corner of 5th Street and Third Avenue somewhere.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 08, 2023 02:50 PM (eoQWY)

273 Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:36 PM (Odg76)

I'm surprised they did that? Maybe she can enroll at Harvard or Penn.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 08, 2023 02:51 PM (RSbhh)

274 The other side of this confederacy of censorship hasn't been revealed yet:
What was Britain getting in exchange for spying on innocent Americans?

That is the shoe to drop-- how much detailed information we are giving them so they can lock up their citizens.
Look how quickly they are able to locate and punish thought-crimes.
They are not doing that without cooperation from Big Tech, enforced by the US.

Oh, and there's foreign spying exchanges that have led to J6 arrests ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice - Personality Commentator at December 08, 2023 02:52 PM (TzW+Y)

275 I tried to buy a new car once by using cash from my debit card

I tried to use a debit card to make a $5k down payment on a car and it was rejected. Went to the credit union the next day to get a cashier's check instead and they told me that the reason for the rejection was that the limit was $5k/day. If I hadn't have stopped for lunch on the way to the dealership, it would have gone through.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 08, 2023 02:55 PM (nfrXX)

276 Lucia Lachkovic Javorcekova
Google says she's a Playmate.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 08, 2023 02:29 PM (Odg76)

Just "nuded" her. Very, uh, interesting. Be back later....

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at December 08, 2023 03:31 PM (iODuv)

277 Mike Benz is all over the censorship industry, uncovering the practices, organizations, personnel, and networks. He is executive director of the Future of Freedom Online Institute and is MikeBenzCyber on X. I follow him and his revelations are just breathtaking, in a bad way. Benz has an extremely interesting way of analyzing foreign affairs, highly recommended.

Posted by: H von Dach at December 08, 2023 05:44 PM (Pxgxf)

278 1984 and Big Brothers Watching You. Don't you feel like Winston Smith right now?

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