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Watching things burn
How did we suddenly get such vocal support for "Palestine" in the West?
Well, it wasn't as sudden as it looks. Ed Driscoll picked out a couple of good examples. Steven Hayward:This week's peak demonstration of leftist anti-Semitic madness comes to us courtesy of the Oakland City Council, where a resolution endorsing a permanent cease-fire in the Israel-Gaza war was met with this parade of insane people: "Okay," you say; "It's Oakland. The Bay Area. Krazifornia. What do you expect?" All true, but don't underestimate how widely spread, and supremely vocal, this sentiment is across the country, and it potential for ongoing malignancy in our body politic. Look no further than Atlanta, where pro-Hamas protestors showed up at First Lady Rosalyn Carter's memorial service in Atlanta, apparently taking lessons tastelessness from the Westboro Baptists. Keep in mind that Jimmy Carter was the most pro-Palestinian president in our history, and gave a huge boost to the slander that Israel is an "Apartheid nation."
It is sometimes noted that in the 1960s, only about 5 percent of the college-age population were participants in the anti-war movement and the large protests they organized. (And I've been told by several older Boomer acquaintances that they attended anti-war protests chiefly to meet girls.) My friend John Tamny noted this fact recently, generously citing some of my own work in fact, to suggest the current pro-Hamas protests are unrepresentative and don't need to be taken that seriously. I disagree; the lesson of the anti-war movement of the 1960s--which by rapid degrees became an anti-American movement (remember "Amerikkka") - - is that it only takes a determined minority to de-range the politics and culture of a nation, with baleful results. Back in the 1960s the liberal establishment was befuddled by the New Left and didn't know how to respond, so it mostly capitulated. Seems the same thing is happening today after October 7. In the face of a demented, deranged left, our liberal establishment is once again calling for "dialogue."This kind of behavior is now just expected from the Left. Hayward's piece is a keeper. Can we shut down the universities? And then there's this. Maybe I'm repeating a theme, but: TikTok made Gen Z pro-Palestine
we understand current affairs through
video snippets
I'm a student in one of Britain's largest high schools and know no one who supports Israel over Palestine. Some readers might find that shocking. Consider, though, how my generation gets its news. TikTok is today by far the preferred source of news for teenagers; YouTube is next, Instagram third.I accidentally had an online conversation with one of these types this week (while providing data to support a reasonable position take by her uncle). I was a "psychopath" for looking beyond "THEY BOMBED HOSPITALS". Never mind the warnings that the hospitals (other than the one accidentally bombed by Hamas-friendly forces) would be bombed, or the military installations in, under or around the hospitals. That was the definition of "genocide" to her. No quote from a source other than, say, the UN or a university professor was believable. I think I did get her to concede that the KKK engaged in terrorism during the 20th Century. Her uncle was not just picking on Muslims. It was sorta like a struggle session, though. And I don't think she represented the worst of the type. Anyway, the CCP now has a mechanism, through TikTok, to help the Western Left dream of repeating the success of the Left of the 1960s.
along with every other institutional bauble in America,
from the Brookings Institution,
to Foreign Policy magazine,
to the NHL and the NBA
The Qatari government's American partners have pursued a range of damage control tactics since Oct. 7, when Hamas, a Qatar-sponsored terrorist group whose senior political leadership is based in the Gulf emirate, murdered over 1,200 people, killing over 30 U.S. citizens and kidnapping a dozen more. Qatari money has spread far across American life, but leading institutions do not often brag about partnering with governments that openly facilitate the work of a genocidally minded terrorist organization that records videos of its atrocities. Such relationships risk becoming a source of public shame, and raise the specter of long-term damage to an organization's reputation and brand. Then again, what the public doesn't know can't hurt it. Higher education, one of the last remaining industries in which the U.S. is still the unquestioned global leader, has proven particularly expert in shielding its favorite deep-pocketed investor from public scrutiny. In a new series of reports, a research consortium organized by the Institute for the Study of Global Antisemitism and Policy found that some $2.7 billion in Qatari funding made it to American colleges and universities between 2014 and 2019 without public acknowledgement from the institutions themselves. The universities only divulged these contributions, which also included some $1.2 billion from China and $1.06 billion from Saudi Arabia, through a Department of Education online portal set up in 2019 to track previously unreported foreign funding.This may not be a good time to send a kid for a semester abroad in Qatar.
In large and small amounts, and through methods calculated to both attract and avoid public attention, Qatar accurately identified the centers of power in America and made sure they'd have their own piece of them, using official and semi-official largesse to purchase the support of America's academic, media, and entertainment leaders. Qatar has become a factor in both the United States and in world affairs through spending its money wisely and patiently, over long periods of time and in a way that enlists everyone from college administrators to magazine editors to NBA owners. Qatar's U.S. strategy is an extension of its successful policies in the Middle East, where a long-term financial and political commitment to Hamas has thrust Doha into the center of global diplomacy, with the effect of legitimizing both the Gulf emirate and its Islamist client in Gaza. Foreign Policy magazine, for example, which aims to provide expert reporting and opinion on the Middle East and surrounding policy debates, is the official podcasting partner of the Doha Forum and the only media organization whose logo appears on the front page of the website for the Doha Debates. Both events are a project of the state-funded Qatar Foundation. . .This kind of patient planning was also exhibited by Hamas in planning the 10/7 attack, even if their planning for what would come after may not have foreseen all possible developments. Could this have an effect on the young staffers currently protesting any pro-Israel policies of the U.S. administration?
The IDF has announced that Hamas violated the terms of the current ceasefire and that it has resumed combat operations against Hamas in Gaza (below). The Times of Israel has posted a long story on the resumption of combat this morning . . .
Secretary of State Antony Blinken visited Israel and met with its war cabinet yesterday. He continues to caution Israel on the law of war, as though the IDF is some kind of a scofflaw. He made it clear that the Biden administration is unhappy with Israel and seeks to impose constraints on the operation of the IDF in Gaza. The Times of Israel covers Blinken's visit here. The Biden administration does not sound like a friend or ally of Israel. . .
Today it is also reported that Hamas branded Israeli child hostages in case they escaped. The Times of Israel covers that story here. Blinken might want to warn Hamas that they stand to be whipped with a wet noodle if they keep it up.
A place where a whole hospital can be taken hostage by mad killers and nobody cares or even notices.https://t.co/TEhB0oPIZj
— wretchardthecat (@wretchardthecat) November 29, 2023
Papua New Guinea has around 6000 police officers to deal with a country of over 800 languages. They regularly rape women in custody and the whole place is babysat by Australia, who spend millions trying to bring some semblance of law and order.
— Stone Age Herbalist (@Paracelsus1092) November 29, 2023
They have no idea how many people… pic.twitter.com/1WIEyaBN1h
We need something different.Orson Welles on the hellhole that is Hollywood even way back when he was a young man. pic.twitter.com/ChHABGPQlF
— Shelby Foote Appreciator⚓️ (@NoJesuitTricks) December 1, 2023
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Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2023 11:18 AM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 11:18 AM (R/m4+)
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The West made Hamas the hero victim the same way they made George Floyd the hero victim. Hopefully Israel won’t become Chauvin.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:22 AM (MNhXM)
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John Fetterman has been making sense these past two months. And not only about Israel. I feel like I’ve been transported to another dimension.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:24 AM (MNhXM)
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There are also things going on in the world that are not particularly related to the conflict in Israel.
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So, Ukraine...
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So, Ukraine...
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 11:25 AM (V13WU)
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It's story is a dirty one and it's record is bad.
The federal government in one sentence.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 11:18 AM (R/m4+)
Humanity as a whole.
The federal government in one sentence.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 11:18 AM (R/m4+)
Humanity as a whole.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:26 AM (QBaJw)
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Looks like molten chocolate
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 11:28 AM (fwDg9)
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How hard would it be to seize all of Gutter's US assets for material support of a terrorist state?
Probably get a huge portion of the National Debt too.
Probably get a huge portion of the National Debt too.
Posted by: Reforger at December 02, 2023 11:28 AM (B705c)
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Good morning everyone.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 02, 2023 11:28 AM (qoGsy)
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Hey everybody, Remember Voice of America?
The U.S. piped in pro-Western radio to the young peeps of the Soviet Union. To undermine, and ultimately overthrow the totalitarian government there. To be replaced by another totalitarian government, to be sure, but sneaky ol' us, we sure did accomplish that through these means, with much mirth and rejoicing.
Tik Tok: Voice of China.
The U.S. piped in pro-Western radio to the young peeps of the Soviet Union. To undermine, and ultimately overthrow the totalitarian government there. To be replaced by another totalitarian government, to be sure, but sneaky ol' us, we sure did accomplish that through these means, with much mirth and rejoicing.
Tik Tok: Voice of China.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:28 AM (QBaJw)
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The ignorance of today's 'yout'' is why I decided to stay at home while my daughter, her family, and my grandson's 'woke' friends enjoyed the day. I did not want to piss in the pool and start some 'Wokemageddon' by using someone's 'incorrect pronounage'. There'll be other days and other times - sometimes y' hafta choose which hill y' want to die on.
Posted by: Dr_No at December 02, 2023 11:29 AM (ayRl+)
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"John Fetterman has been making sense the past two months."
Maybe the neck lump has taken over the verbal pathways in his brain.
Maybe the neck lump has taken over the verbal pathways in his brain.
Posted by: PabloD at December 02, 2023 11:29 AM (1ekMj)
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Looks like molten chocolate
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 11:28 AM (fwDg9)
So then I guess those are five year old Ghanaian slave workers, gathered round waiting to harvest it?
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 11:28 AM (fwDg9)
So then I guess those are five year old Ghanaian slave workers, gathered round waiting to harvest it?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:31 AM (QBaJw)
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It’s the story of one of my favorite analogies.
The world is made up of 90% sheep , 5% Sheepdogs and 5% wolves . The sheep often can’t tell the difference between the Sheepdog and the wolf.
The world is made up of 90% sheep , 5% Sheepdogs and 5% wolves . The sheep often can’t tell the difference between the Sheepdog and the wolf.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:31 AM (MNhXM)
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"We need something different."
Luciano Pavarotti sings "Nessun dorma" from Turandot (The Three Tenors in Concert 1994) on Youtube Always brings me a sense of Peace
Luciano Pavarotti sings "Nessun dorma" from Turandot (The Three Tenors in Concert 1994) on Youtube Always brings me a sense of Peace
Posted by: Lancelot_Link at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (uxAXv)
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Aloha all
Posted by: Noah Bawdy at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (chM5R)
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Anybody have a clue what to do about Haiti?
Send some Navy, Air Force, and three American divisions to the Don Rep. Working together with the army of the Dom Rep, invade and conquer Haiti. Arrest every government official. Jail them and every criminal for life. Wipe the slate clean and start over.
Send some Navy, Air Force, and three American divisions to the Don Rep. Working together with the army of the Dom Rep, invade and conquer Haiti. Arrest every government official. Jail them and every criminal for life. Wipe the slate clean and start over.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (uSHSS)
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"John Fetterman has been making sense the past two months."
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Maybe the neck lump has taken over the verbal pathways in his brain.
Posted by: PabloD at December 02, 2023 11:29 AM (1ekMj)
Maybe he's finally awakens from his stroken slumber, and realized he's not a douchebag lefty?
I know he was a nitwit Democrat before he went into zombie mode, but they say some people's personalities do change after head trauma.
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Maybe the neck lump has taken over the verbal pathways in his brain.
Posted by: PabloD at December 02, 2023 11:29 AM (1ekMj)
Maybe he's finally awakens from his stroken slumber, and realized he's not a douchebag lefty?
I know he was a nitwit Democrat before he went into zombie mode, but they say some people's personalities do change after head trauma.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (QBaJw)
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Send some Navy, Air Force, and three American divisions to the Don Rep. Working together with the army of the Dom Rep, invade and conquer Haiti. Arrest every government official. Jail them and every criminal for life. Wipe the slate clean and start over.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (uSHSS)
You will end up in the same place less than a decade later. The cause is a chicken or the egg argument.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (uSHSS)
You will end up in the same place less than a decade later. The cause is a chicken or the egg argument.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:35 AM (MNhXM)
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"but they say some people's personalities do change after head trauma.
So tap him again, and see what happens?
So tap him again, and see what happens?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2023 11:35 AM (hH3Px)
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Anybody have a clue what to do about Haiti?
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Send some Navy, Air Force, and three American divisions to the Don Rep. Working together with the army of the Dom Rep, invade and conquer Haiti. Arrest every government official. Jail them and every criminal for life. Wipe the slate clean and start over.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (uSHSS)
Or you know, nothing.
Keep our world-destroying Military Industrial Complex out of where it doesn't belong.
We could try that for a change.
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Send some Navy, Air Force, and three American divisions to the Don Rep. Working together with the army of the Dom Rep, invade and conquer Haiti. Arrest every government official. Jail them and every criminal for life. Wipe the slate clean and start over.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (uSHSS)
Or you know, nothing.
Keep our world-destroying Military Industrial Complex out of where it doesn't belong.
We could try that for a change.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:35 AM (QBaJw)
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KT not sure a music interlude will help after that heavy reading.
But then my reading this past week isn't any better.
But then my reading this past week isn't any better.
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 11:35 AM (fwDg9)
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There is no saving Haiti, or even many of our own cities. They are millstones of misery.
Posted by: Erik In Texas at December 02, 2023 11:36 AM (oEXy7)
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So tap him again, and see what happens?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2023 11:35 AM (hH3Px)
You mean like changing the radio station?
Nah, let's leave this one on for a while.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2023 11:35 AM (hH3Px)
You mean like changing the radio station?
Nah, let's leave this one on for a while.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:36 AM (QBaJw)
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Never having spent a day in a Marxist Seminary, wonder if Qatar spending billions into Propaganda to the Marxist Seminaries hasn't just bought their line of Islam
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 11:38 AM (fwDg9)
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Most third world societies today still follow the Might Makes Right roadmap. Haiti is one of the worst.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:38 AM (MNhXM)
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Very good article about the math of concealed carry.
I like that the entire original report is available as well.
https://tinyurl.com/55cxz82m
I like that the entire original report is available as well.
https://tinyurl.com/55cxz82m
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2023 11:38 AM (hH3Px)
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here is another link, an article by David Stockman:
How American Neocons Wrecked the Middle-East and Ukraine
https://tinyurl.com/yya39r2m
How American Neocons Wrecked the Middle-East and Ukraine
https://tinyurl.com/yya39r2m
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 11:38 AM (D7oie)
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Interesting Orson Welles bit.
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 11:39 AM (V13WU)
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"You mean like changing the radio station?
Nah, let's leave this one on for a while."
OK, let's see how it goes.
But if the station starts to drift....
Nah, let's leave this one on for a while."
OK, let's see how it goes.
But if the station starts to drift....
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2023 11:39 AM (hH3Px)
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Skip at December 02, 2023 11:35 AM
I feel like we're in one of those times when you just need to keep pushing forward. Like Hayward points out, there are not that many of the crazies.
The "normies" sure aren't very good at messaging. I think what's going on in people's private lives is brighter than what we hear about in the electronic world.
I feel like we're in one of those times when you just need to keep pushing forward. Like Hayward points out, there are not that many of the crazies.
The "normies" sure aren't very good at messaging. I think what's going on in people's private lives is brighter than what we hear about in the electronic world.
Posted by: KT at December 02, 2023 11:40 AM (rrtZS)
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Iceland
Congratulations, Ms. Huffman. Your daughter did not walk straight into the lava, so we are happy to accept her into the drama department...
Congratulations, Ms. Huffman. Your daughter did not walk straight into the lava, so we are happy to accept her into the drama department...
Posted by: Carnegie-Mellon at December 02, 2023 11:40 AM (HjfVN)
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The world is infinitely better off that the United States has been the world police but there comes a time when we have to back off and let things work themselves out on their own.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:42 AM (MNhXM)
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The Bolsheviks were the minority yet took hold of Russia for over 100 years
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 11:42 AM (fwDg9)
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Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 11:38 AM (D7oie)
Don’t plan on reading that link. Stockman is a narcissistic ass.
Don’t plan on reading that link. Stockman is a narcissistic ass.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:43 AM (MNhXM)
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Looks like molten chocolate
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 11:28 AM (fwDg9)
Something off about that pic. I'd expect huge billows of steam where the hot lava impinges on the snow-covered ground. Also, those people to the right of the lava tongue in the pic are in a risky place. The front of the lava wall could collapse at any instant, and send a flash flood of lava down upon them.
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 11:28 AM (fwDg9)
Something off about that pic. I'd expect huge billows of steam where the hot lava impinges on the snow-covered ground. Also, those people to the right of the lava tongue in the pic are in a risky place. The front of the lava wall could collapse at any instant, and send a flash flood of lava down upon them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 11:44 AM (+y3HG)
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I feel like we're in one of those times when you just need to keep pushing forward. Like Hayward points out, there are not that many of the crazies.
The "normies" sure aren't very good at messaging. I think what's going on in people's private lives is brighter than what we hear about in the electronic world.
Posted by: KT at December 02, 2023 11:40 AM (rrtZS)
KT; I hope you’re right, but at a gut level I doubt it. The normies are going along to get along. We are in a very strange place in recent history.
The "normies" sure aren't very good at messaging. I think what's going on in people's private lives is brighter than what we hear about in the electronic world.
Posted by: KT at December 02, 2023 11:40 AM (rrtZS)
KT; I hope you’re right, but at a gut level I doubt it. The normies are going along to get along. We are in a very strange place in recent history.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 02, 2023 11:44 AM (N6UT3)
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Orson Welles peice is interesting and sort of points the way toward the radical politics and hedonistic deviancy that are the real legacies of Hollywood. The whole Blacklist affair was correct in it's diagnosis. Now Hollywood is an ossified, coprolitic zombie lurching into the dustbin of history. Good riddance.
Posted by: Erik In Texas at December 02, 2023 11:46 AM (oEXy7)
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Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 02, 2023 11:44 AM (N6UT3)
We’ve been in stranger and worse positions before. What is different though is the pessimism and willingness just to give up by ‘normies’ is higher than I’ve ever seen it .
We’ve been in stranger and worse positions before. What is different though is the pessimism and willingness just to give up by ‘normies’ is higher than I’ve ever seen it .
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:47 AM (MNhXM)
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John Fetterman has been making sense these past two months. And not only about Israel. I feel like I’ve been transported to another dimension.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:24 AM (MNhXM)
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Bizarro World ain't just a river in Egypt.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:24 AM (MNhXM)
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Bizarro World ain't just a river in Egypt.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 11:49 AM (ScR16)
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Keep our world-destroying Military Industrial Complex out of where it doesn't belong.
We could try that for a change.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:35 AM (QBaJw)
Heh.
I was being a bit facetious. Haiti is a basket case. It's going to take a big broom to clean that place up.
We could try that for a change.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:35 AM (QBaJw)
Heh.
I was being a bit facetious. Haiti is a basket case. It's going to take a big broom to clean that place up.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:49 AM (uSHSS)
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Maybe I should watch Citizen Kane.
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 11:49 AM (V13WU)
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36 They wil findout how Smeagol died
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 02, 2023 11:49 AM (as3uC)
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But then there is Christkindlmarket in town...hmmm
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 11:50 AM (V13WU)
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I am not walking up to erupting lava. Just not going to do it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 11:50 AM (aD39U)
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The front of the lava wall could collapse at any instant, and send a flash flood of lava down upon them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 11:44 AM (+y3HG)
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IIRR, the lava in Iceland is the high-silicon pasty slow-flowing kind, as opposed to the high-iron molten river type of Hawaii.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 11:44 AM (+y3HG)
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IIRR, the lava in Iceland is the high-silicon pasty slow-flowing kind, as opposed to the high-iron molten river type of Hawaii.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 11:51 AM (ScR16)
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"I was being a bit facetious. Haiti is a basket case. It's going to take a big broom to clean that place up"
It's an island....
How hard would it be to tip it over?
It's an island....
How hard would it be to tip it over?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2023 11:51 AM (hH3Px)
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this is a good YT channel for keeping up with Iceland earth changes:
https://tinyurl.com/5n6waks9
he's a drone operator whose channel used to be primarily directed at tourists. Now he's describing how the harbor floor has fallen 32 cm, among other interesting factoids
https://tinyurl.com/5n6waks9
he's a drone operator whose channel used to be primarily directed at tourists. Now he's describing how the harbor floor has fallen 32 cm, among other interesting factoids
Posted by: kallisto at December 02, 2023 11:51 AM (dCxaZ)
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Why stay inside when you can drink Glühwein and eat overpriced Brätwurst ?
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 11:51 AM (V13WU)
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They wil findout how Smeagol died
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 02, 2023 11:49 AM (as3uC)
Nah. The giant eagles are there just out of frame.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 02, 2023 11:49 AM (as3uC)
Nah. The giant eagles are there just out of frame.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:52 AM (MNhXM)
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10 Hey everybody, Remember Voice of America?
The U.S. piped in pro-Western radio to the young peeps of the Soviet Union. To undermine, and ultimately overthrow the totalitarian government there.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:28 AM (QBaJw)
Uh, Voice of America still operates and is still funded by the US Government... which is why I laughed a couple years ago when they accused Russia of election interference because of $100K in Twitter ads.
Moral Highground? Lost it years ago.
The U.S. piped in pro-Western radio to the young peeps of the Soviet Union. To undermine, and ultimately overthrow the totalitarian government there.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:28 AM (QBaJw)
Uh, Voice of America still operates and is still funded by the US Government... which is why I laughed a couple years ago when they accused Russia of election interference because of $100K in Twitter ads.
Moral Highground? Lost it years ago.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 02, 2023 11:53 AM (xaFKb)
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Iceland
Congratulations, Ms. Huffman. Your daughter did not walk straight into the lava, so we are happy to accept her into the drama department...
Posted by: Carnegie-Mellon
+1
Congratulations, Ms. Huffman. Your daughter did not walk straight into the lava, so we are happy to accept her into the drama department...
Posted by: Carnegie-Mellon
+1
Posted by: Squiggy from Laverne and Shirley at December 02, 2023 11:53 AM (R4t5M)
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We’ve been in stranger and worse positions before. What is different though is the pessimism and willingness just to give up by ‘normies’ is higher than I’ve ever seen it .
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:47 AM (MNhXM)
Drive: true our society/culture is now divided and people are scared to speak out. Right or wrong doesn’t matter, the process is the punishment. We all know this and so do the PTB.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:47 AM (MNhXM)
Drive: true our society/culture is now divided and people are scared to speak out. Right or wrong doesn’t matter, the process is the punishment. We all know this and so do the PTB.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 02, 2023 11:53 AM (N6UT3)
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Congratulations, Ms. Huffman. Your daughter did not walk straight into the lava, so we are happy to accept her into the drama department...
Posted by: Carnegie-Mellon at December 02, 2023 11:40 AM (HjfVN)
I didn't read it, but did see an article the other day, about how she's now claiming she HAD to try to bribe her daughter's way into an "elite" school.
Yeah, I don't know how that works. Are you suggesting people of privilege (I'm recapturing that word) think money can buy them into or out of any problem they might have?
Outrageous. Why, I never.
Posted by: Carnegie-Mellon at December 02, 2023 11:40 AM (HjfVN)
I didn't read it, but did see an article the other day, about how she's now claiming she HAD to try to bribe her daughter's way into an "elite" school.
Yeah, I don't know how that works. Are you suggesting people of privilege (I'm recapturing that word) think money can buy them into or out of any problem they might have?
Outrageous. Why, I never.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:55 AM (QBaJw)
55
Haiti is a garden party compared to Papua, New Guinea.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2023 11:55 AM (ZLI7S)
56
The answer to Haiti is the same as the answer to Gaza. Both are polities where the people have gone feral. Both need to be invaded, occupied, and colonized. The occupying power has to make clear to the masses that they exist on sufferance alone, unless and until they take steps to civilize themselves. Turn missionaries loose among them in an effort to convert them to civilized religions. And sudden but painful death to anyone who molests a missionary, ruthlessly enforced. And ruthlessly suppress the natives' religious and/or social practices that perpetuate the backwardness.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 11:56 AM (+y3HG)
57
But then there is Christkindlmarket in town...hmmm
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 11:50 AM (V13WU)
Mrs D and I were just discussing how we miss the Kristkindlmarket in Augsburg. It's awesome.
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 11:50 AM (V13WU)
Mrs D and I were just discussing how we miss the Kristkindlmarket in Augsburg. It's awesome.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:56 AM (uSHSS)
58
Uh, Voice of America still operates and is still funded by the US Government... which is why I laughed a couple years ago when they accused Russia of election interference because of $100K in Twitter ads.
Moral Highground? Lost it years ago.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 02, 2023 11:53 AM (xaFKb)
The Obama administration gave much more money to an Israeli PAC that opposed Netanyahu’s re-election. The Left are literally loaded with mental disorders.
Moral Highground? Lost it years ago.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 02, 2023 11:53 AM (xaFKb)
The Obama administration gave much more money to an Israeli PAC that opposed Netanyahu’s re-election. The Left are literally loaded with mental disorders.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:56 AM (MNhXM)
59
Police rape isn't rape-rape.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 02, 2023 11:56 AM (R4t5M)
60
"Yeah, I don't know how that works. Are you suggesting people of privilege (I'm recapturing that word) think money can buy them into or out of any problem they might have?
Outrageous. Why, I never."
Word
Outrageous. Why, I never."
Word
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2023 11:56 AM (hH3Px)
61
Anybody have a clue what to do about Haiti?
Move all the Haitians off of the island to Canada.
Sell island to Donald Trump to turn into a retirement island for old farts from America.
Staff the new condos, hotels, casinos, brothels and resorts with hot Brazilian wimmen.
Move all the Haitians off of the island to Canada.
Sell island to Donald Trump to turn into a retirement island for old farts from America.
Staff the new condos, hotels, casinos, brothels and resorts with hot Brazilian wimmen.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 11:58 AM (R/m4+)
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Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 11:56 AM (+y3HG)
We’re you part of the British Tea Company in a previous life?
We’re you part of the British Tea Company in a previous life?
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:59 AM (MNhXM)
63
Something off about that pic. I'd expect huge billows of steam where the hot lava impinges on the snow-covered ground. Also, those people to the right of the lava tongue in the pic are in a risky place. The front of the lava wall could collapse at any instant, and send a flash flood of lava down upon them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 11:44 AM (+y3HG)
I saw a documentary about a volcano that erupted, an island off of... New Zealand? Australia? Who cares, one of them. So the volcano erupts, but it's a tourist destination, and people are now trapped on the island. The eruption was more of a steam blast, but it hit so hard, people are literally melting to death. I forget how many died, and those who survived, it's obviously a tragedy, but yeah, nature is trying to kill you. You better respect it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 11:44 AM (+y3HG)
I saw a documentary about a volcano that erupted, an island off of... New Zealand? Australia? Who cares, one of them. So the volcano erupts, but it's a tourist destination, and people are now trapped on the island. The eruption was more of a steam blast, but it hit so hard, people are literally melting to death. I forget how many died, and those who survived, it's obviously a tragedy, but yeah, nature is trying to kill you. You better respect it.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 11:59 AM (QBaJw)
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Congratulations, Ms. Huffman. Your daughter did not walk straight into the lava, so we are happy to accept her into the drama department...
Posted by: Carnegie-Mellon at December 02, 2023 11:40 AM (HjfVN)
Rather than cheat to get into an elite school, teach her how to do a proper bj, and instill proper Hollywood morals and hell, she could be a politician someday.
Posted by: Carnegie-Mellon at December 02, 2023 11:40 AM (HjfVN)
Rather than cheat to get into an elite school, teach her how to do a proper bj, and instill proper Hollywood morals and hell, she could be a politician someday.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:59 AM (uSHSS)
65
The US ran Haiti from 1919 to 1933 - probably the best administered it had been since independence. We built roads, schools, and attempted to bring up people who would be responsible leaders. And it went straight to shit the moment we left.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 12:00 PM (ScR16)
66
Uh, Voice of America still operates and is still funded by the US Government... which is why I laughed a couple years ago when they accused Russia of election interference because of $100K in Twitter ads.
Moral Highground? Lost it years ago.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 02, 2023 11:53 AM (xaFKb)
That shouldn't surprise me. NATO still exists, after all. Long after its purpose was ended.
Moral Highground? Lost it years ago.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 02, 2023 11:53 AM (xaFKb)
That shouldn't surprise me. NATO still exists, after all. Long after its purpose was ended.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:01 PM (QBaJw)
67
Move all the Haitians off of the island to Canada Montreal.
Sell island to Donald Trump to turn into a retirement island for old farts from America.
Staff the new condos, hotels, casinos, brothels and resorts with hot Brazilian wimmen.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 11:58 AM (R/m4+)
Refined it for you!
Sell island to Donald Trump to turn into a retirement island for old farts from America.
Staff the new condos, hotels, casinos, brothels and resorts with hot Brazilian wimmen.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 11:58 AM (R/m4+)
Refined it for you!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:01 PM (+y3HG)
68
What happened to building libraries or other college buildings to bribe the college administration to do your bidding?
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 12:01 PM (MNhXM)
Posted by: The Clinton Bush Haiti Fund at December 02, 2023 12:02 PM (CaJIi)
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What happened to building libraries or other college buildings to bribe the college administration to do your bidding?
Posted by: Drive by
Worked for me.
Posted by: Drive by
Worked for me.
Posted by: Joe Paterno at December 02, 2023 12:02 PM (R4t5M)
71
Mrs D and I were just discussing how we miss the Kristkindlmarket in Augsburg. It's awesome.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:56 AM (uSHSS)
It's great when it snows, and you stand around hightops outside, drinking Bitburger, or steaming Glühwein. Transporting !
That's it ! I am going!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:56 AM (uSHSS)
It's great when it snows, and you stand around hightops outside, drinking Bitburger, or steaming Glühwein. Transporting !
That's it ! I am going!
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 12:02 PM (V13WU)
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Staff the new condos, hotels, casinos, brothels and resorts with hot Brazilian wimmen.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 11:58 AM (R/m4+)
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He'd need to do something about getting trees to grow there again.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 11:58 AM (R/m4+)
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He'd need to do something about getting trees to grow there again.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 12:02 PM (ScR16)
73
We’re you part of the British Tea Company in a previous life?
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:59 AM (MNhXM)
Heh. No. But I recognize that savages cannot bring themselves up from savagery all on their own efforts. They need some Power to crack the whip over them.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:59 AM (MNhXM)
Heh. No. But I recognize that savages cannot bring themselves up from savagery all on their own efforts. They need some Power to crack the whip over them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:03 PM (+y3HG)
74
What happened to building libraries or other college buildings to bribe the college administration to do your bidding?
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 12:01 PM (MNhXM)
Clearly you have not grasped the methodology of modern corruption.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 12:01 PM (MNhXM)
Clearly you have not grasped the methodology of modern corruption.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 12:04 PM (uSHSS)
75
Haiti is a garden party compared to Papua, New Guinea.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2023 11:55 AM (ZLI7S)
Ilha da Queimada Grande is preferable to both.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2023 11:55 AM (ZLI7S)
Ilha da Queimada Grande is preferable to both.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:04 PM (QBaJw)
76
Papua New Guinea has around 6000 police officers to deal with a country of over 800 languages. They regularly rape women in custody and the whole place is babysat by Australia, who spend millions trying to bring some semblance of law and order.
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Hey! All cultures are equal, racist!
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Hey! All cultures are equal, racist!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:04 PM (FVME7)
77
He'd need to do something about getting trees to grow there again.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 12:02 PM (ScR16)
Yep. And the river of endless shit.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 12:02 PM (ScR16)
Yep. And the river of endless shit.
Posted by: Joe Paterno at December 02, 2023 12:04 PM (R4t5M)
78
this is a good YT channel for keeping up with Iceland earth changes:
https://tinyurl.com/5n6waks9
he's a drone operator whose channel used to be primarily directed at tourists. Now he's describing how the harbor floor has fallen 32 cm, among other interesting factoids
Posted by: kallisto at December 02, 2023 11:51 AM (dCxaZ)
Shawn Wilsey on utube is also good.
He is a geology professor from Idaho(?) That has spent time in Iceland. He has been providing updates every other day or so
Https://youtu.be/DnDtmNqxikA?feature=shared
https://tinyurl.com/5n6waks9
he's a drone operator whose channel used to be primarily directed at tourists. Now he's describing how the harbor floor has fallen 32 cm, among other interesting factoids
Posted by: kallisto at December 02, 2023 11:51 AM (dCxaZ)
Shawn Wilsey on utube is also good.
He is a geology professor from Idaho(?) That has spent time in Iceland. He has been providing updates every other day or so
Https://youtu.be/DnDtmNqxikA?feature=shared
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 02, 2023 12:04 PM (ufFY8)
79
Strike one.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 02, 2023 12:05 PM (R4t5M)
80
He'd need to do something about getting trees to grow there again.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 12:02 PM (ScR16)
Trees would grow if the natives didn't burn them for firewood.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 12:02 PM (ScR16)
Trees would grow if the natives didn't burn them for firewood.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:05 PM (+y3HG)
81
Hiya K.T. !
Posted by: JT at December 02, 2023 12:05 PM (T4tVD)
82
Not sure how much welfare goes to Haiti, next to Palestinians?
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 12:06 PM (fwDg9)
Posted by: Quarter Twenty at December 02, 2023 12:06 PM (NBVIP)
84
John Fetterman has been making sense these past two months. And not only about Israel. I feel like I’ve been transported to another dimension.
Posted by: Drive by
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
Posted by: Drive by
There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:07 PM (FVME7)
85
reposted from the emt:
243 Just saw a new video on Twitter (X) - IDF reveals video of dozens of Grad rockets they found stored in a UNRWA building in Gaza. Combine this with the reveal that UNWRA officials were helping to hide some of the hostages.
Blinken has been demanding that Israel not attack or disturb any UN property. Don't think that's gonna happen.
Many wonder why the IDF hasn't been able to destroy all of Hamas' rocket capability yet. The answer is because to eliminate that completely, the IDF will have to destroy every mosque, every school, every hospital, every clinic, and every UN building in the entire Gaza strip, and that will take a long time.
243 Just saw a new video on Twitter (X) - IDF reveals video of dozens of Grad rockets they found stored in a UNRWA building in Gaza. Combine this with the reveal that UNWRA officials were helping to hide some of the hostages.
Blinken has been demanding that Israel not attack or disturb any UN property. Don't think that's gonna happen.
Many wonder why the IDF hasn't been able to destroy all of Hamas' rocket capability yet. The answer is because to eliminate that completely, the IDF will have to destroy every mosque, every school, every hospital, every clinic, and every UN building in the entire Gaza strip, and that will take a long time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:07 PM (S6gqv)
86
hiya
Posted by: JT at December 02, 2023 12:08 PM (T4tVD)
87
Heh. No. But I recognize that savages cannot bring themselves up from savagery all on their own efforts. They need some Power to crack the whip over them.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:03 PM (+y3HG)
I find it easier to "solve" all these problems around the world when I start with the belief the U.S. of A. has no business meddling in any of the affairs of others. And then shuts the F up, and says nothing about it either.
Don't come here and bother us. That's my foreign policy statement. Period.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:03 PM (+y3HG)
I find it easier to "solve" all these problems around the world when I start with the belief the U.S. of A. has no business meddling in any of the affairs of others. And then shuts the F up, and says nothing about it either.
Don't come here and bother us. That's my foreign policy statement. Period.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:08 PM (QBaJw)
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Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 11:56 AM (+y3HG)
We’re you part of the British Tea Company in a previous life?
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:59 AM (MNhXM)
Hudson Bay Company, perhaps?
We’re you part of the British Tea Company in a previous life?
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:59 AM (MNhXM)
Hudson Bay Company, perhaps?
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 02, 2023 12:08 PM (ufFY8)
89
Pendulums swing both ways. And Karma is a bitch.
Posted by: setnaffa at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (PAmVZ)
90
Refined it for you!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:01 PM (+y3HG)
Is there anything to the Saskatchewan tax revolt, supposedly led by the Premeier? Something to do with Ottawa taxing all the profits from oil while trying to shut the oil fields down?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:01 PM (+y3HG)
Is there anything to the Saskatchewan tax revolt, supposedly led by the Premeier? Something to do with Ottawa taxing all the profits from oil while trying to shut the oil fields down?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (D7oie)
91
65 General Lewis "Chesty" Puller served as an enlisted man in Haiti, also given the rank of Lieutenant in the Haitian Constabulary. The Marine Corps saw something with the young man and commissioned him. The rest, history.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: Just Sayin at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (ZpFiX)
93
Top pic. My brain has trouble perceiving molten rock.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (XeU6L)
94
Many wonder why the IDF hasn't been able to destroy all of Hamas' rocket capability yet. The answer is because to eliminate that completely, the IDF will have to destroy every mosque, every school, every hospital, every clinic, and every UN building in the entire Gaza strip,
That's hot.
That's hot.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 02, 2023 12:10 PM (ufFY8)
95
Fetterman's lump is his "keeper." Babylon 5 reference.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2023 12:10 PM (63Dwl)
96
Not sure how much welfare goes to Haiti, next to Palestinians?
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 12:06 PM (fwDg9)
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You mean, that isn't raked off by the Clintons and their cronies?
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 12:06 PM (fwDg9)
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You mean, that isn't raked off by the Clintons and their cronies?
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 12:10 PM (ScR16)
97
Chesty? You mean like a Joe Mannix posting chesty?
Posted by: Not really paying attention at December 02, 2023 12:10 PM (NBVIP)
98
Top pic. My brain has trouble perceiving molten rock.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (XeU6L)
Just like candle wax, just hotter.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (XeU6L)
Just like candle wax, just hotter.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 02, 2023 12:11 PM (ufFY8)
99
Just a word about colonizers....
Posted by: Nimarata Randhawa Haley's new nic at December 02, 2023 12:12 PM (oEXy7)
100
Many wonder why the IDF hasn't been able to destroy all of Hamas' rocket capability yet. The answer is because to eliminate that completely, the IDF will have to destroy every mosque, every school, every hospital, every clinic, and every UN building in the entire Gaza strip, and that will take a long time.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:07 PM (S6gqv)
UN: I'm shocked...SHOCKED to see IDF invading the offices of the UN!
UN Toady: Here are your missiles, sir.
UN: Oh thank you very much.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:07 PM (S6gqv)
UN: I'm shocked...SHOCKED to see IDF invading the offices of the UN!
UN Toady: Here are your missiles, sir.
UN: Oh thank you very much.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:12 PM (QBaJw)
101
4 John Fetterman has been making sense these past two months. And not only about Israel. I feel like I’ve been transported to another dimension.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:24 AM (MNhXM)
If only we could ensure that Biden got the same meds as Fetterman!
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 11:24 AM (MNhXM)
If only we could ensure that Biden got the same meds as Fetterman!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 02, 2023 12:12 PM (hOUT3)
102
I've read that a volcano has erupted just offshore of Iwo Jima too. And that a new island has formed near Japan. I'm not sure if all this vulcanism is a new phenomenon or is it just better reporting.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:12 PM (MeG8a)
Posted by: Sodom at December 02, 2023 12:12 PM (NBVIP)
104
Hangovers stink.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 02, 2023 12:13 PM (tcruw)
105
Off to prepare my healthful bacon and eggs.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 12:13 PM (ScR16)
106
Interesting juxtaposition of all the horror of the new (and old) barbarism and one of the most beautiful pieces of music ever composed.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:14 PM (FVME7)
107
John Fetterman, stomping through the Senate office building, wearing a Brooks Brothers suit and a Calvin Coolidge t shirt, yelling it was all an act.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2023 12:14 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at December 02, 2023 12:14 PM (ufFY8)
109
Hey! All cultures are equal, racist!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:04 PM (FVME7)
After all, who are we to criticize their time honored traditions?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:04 PM (FVME7)
After all, who are we to criticize their time honored traditions?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 02, 2023 12:15 PM (hOUT3)
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I'm not sure if all this vulcanism is a new phenomenon or is it just better reporting.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
Fascinating.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
Fascinating.
Posted by: Zombie Dr. Spock at December 02, 2023 12:15 PM (qoGsy)
111
But you get used to it.
Posted by: Gomorrah at December 02, 2023 12:15 PM (NBVIP)
112
Nurse R, stay drunk!
Posted by: Just Sayin at December 02, 2023 12:15 PM (ZpFiX)
113
Top pic. My brain has trouble perceiving molten rock.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (XeU6L)
Just like candle wax, just hotter.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 02, 2023 12:11 PM (ufFY
Everyone knows fire can't melt rock. Or candle wax.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (XeU6L)
Just like candle wax, just hotter.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 02, 2023 12:11 PM (ufFY
Everyone knows fire can't melt rock. Or candle wax.
Posted by: Old School 9/11 Truthers at December 02, 2023 12:15 PM (QBaJw)
114
I've read that a volcano has erupted just offshore of Iwo Jima too. And that a new island has formed near Japan. I'm not sure if all this vulcanism is a new phenomenon or is it just better reporting.
Offshore of Japan at least is pretty well surveilled. Japan is made of multiple islands so ferries carrying trucks is how they do a lot of their shipping. And they obviously keep a *very* close eye on the China Sea on Japan's west coast.
Offshore of Japan at least is pretty well surveilled. Japan is made of multiple islands so ferries carrying trucks is how they do a lot of their shipping. And they obviously keep a *very* close eye on the China Sea on Japan's west coast.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2023 12:15 PM (FD5dr)
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91 So did the infamous Fighting Quaker, Smedley Butler. IIRC, two Medals of Honor and then turned anti-war after retiring from the USMC.
Posted by: Nimarata Randhawa Haley's new nic at December 02, 2023 12:16 PM (oEXy7)
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Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:12 PM (MeG8a)
Part of the pacific ring of fire. Does the Atlantic have something similar or is Iceland just a single cluster of volcanos?
Part of the pacific ring of fire. Does the Atlantic have something similar or is Iceland just a single cluster of volcanos?
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 12:16 PM (IYUIU)
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I'm not sure if all this vulcanism is a new phenomenon or is it just better reporting.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:12 PM (MeG8a)
Ring of fire.
Not the way Bootygig thinks of it.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:12 PM (MeG8a)
Ring of fire.
Not the way Bootygig thinks of it.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 02, 2023 12:16 PM (ufFY8)
118
Let me describe a different perspective in the current Israel/Palestine war.
I think Israel is the aggrieved in the current conflict. I believe Hamas is a terrorist organization that must be dealt with by Israel, in complete and resounding fashion to obtain any level of peace in their country. This will likely involve outcomes that have collateral damage.
I also think that none of these realities are necessarily America's burden. We don't have to provide bombs or money or anything at all. We don't need to provide input on their issues and our input is actually interference.
I would not give two shits if a group of Israeli students were decrying a crackdown on abortion or border crossings in America. America's policies are its own for the making and what Israel or Australia or anyone else thinks about it is irrelevant.
BUT, when you involve American dollars and American military lives in the conflicts in Israel, now it does matter what Americans (including Free Palestine protesters) think about the issue, and those thoughts are divided.
I think we should decouple from Israel, to both remove ourselves from the conflict and free Israel from our interference.
I think Israel is the aggrieved in the current conflict. I believe Hamas is a terrorist organization that must be dealt with by Israel, in complete and resounding fashion to obtain any level of peace in their country. This will likely involve outcomes that have collateral damage.
I also think that none of these realities are necessarily America's burden. We don't have to provide bombs or money or anything at all. We don't need to provide input on their issues and our input is actually interference.
I would not give two shits if a group of Israeli students were decrying a crackdown on abortion or border crossings in America. America's policies are its own for the making and what Israel or Australia or anyone else thinks about it is irrelevant.
BUT, when you involve American dollars and American military lives in the conflicts in Israel, now it does matter what Americans (including Free Palestine protesters) think about the issue, and those thoughts are divided.
I think we should decouple from Israel, to both remove ourselves from the conflict and free Israel from our interference.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:17 PM (569hd)
119
Lots of vulcanism outside of the ring of fire, tho'
Top photo is very good.
Top photo is very good.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:18 PM (MeG8a)
Posted by: Bermuda at December 02, 2023 12:18 PM (NBVIP)
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Unfortunately, before WW2, when the marines invaded a country one of the principle reasons was that the country was failing to make payments on their loans to American banks, or threatening the local industries owned by American companies.
On the positive side, the US doesn't seem to have used chemical weapons at that time, unlike the French and the Spanish in North Africa, who really were fond of Mustard.
On the positive side, the US doesn't seem to have used chemical weapons at that time, unlike the French and the Spanish in North Africa, who really were fond of Mustard.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:19 PM (D7oie)
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VP Harris, "Too many innocent palestians killed."
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Gal Heinrich, Israeli spokesperson explains, on Fox, Israel has gone to great lengths to provide & direct civilians to safe zones, and more.
Susan Sarandon apologizes for anti-Israel rant. (She was dropped by studio. Oh, well.)
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Gal Heinrich, Israeli spokesperson explains, on Fox, Israel has gone to great lengths to provide & direct civilians to safe zones, and more.
Susan Sarandon apologizes for anti-Israel rant. (She was dropped by studio. Oh, well.)
Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at December 02, 2023 12:19 PM (GshMh)
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John Fetterman, stomping through the Senate office building, wearing a Brooks Brothers suit and a Calvin Coolidge t shirt, yelling it was all an act.
I don't think he's otherwise not liberal, just that he's very strong-form pro-Israel.
I don't think he's otherwise not liberal, just that he's very strong-form pro-Israel.
Posted by: Ian S. at December 02, 2023 12:19 PM (FD5dr)
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116, 117
Horde mind.
Iceland is on the fault where the plates are separating (like maybe an inch a year?).
The rift goes through Iceland, and goes all the way down the center of the Atlantic, since the Muricas are moving away from Europe and Africa.
Horde mind.
Iceland is on the fault where the plates are separating (like maybe an inch a year?).
The rift goes through Iceland, and goes all the way down the center of the Atlantic, since the Muricas are moving away from Europe and Africa.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 02, 2023 12:20 PM (ufFY8)
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I think we should decouple from Israel, to both remove ourselves from the conflict and free Israel from our interference.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:17 PM (569hd)
BC:
Obviously you aren't getting 10%!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:17 PM (569hd)
BC:
Obviously you aren't getting 10%!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 02, 2023 12:20 PM (hOUT3)
126
118 Amen. Like, America first? Well said.
Posted by: Nimarata Randhawa Haley's new nic at December 02, 2023 12:20 PM (oEXy7)
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80 He'd need to do something about getting trees to grow there again.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 12:02 PM (ScR16)
Trees would grow if the natives didn't burn them for firewood.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:05 PM (+y3HG)
I have a neighbor who has a lawn with a big bare dirt patch in the middle of it, right where they have their dog on a chain. From time to time she sees me working on the yard and asks "what do you think I could do to get rid of this big dirt patch?"
Um gee, I dunno. It's a mystery.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea, Radioactive Knight at December 02, 2023 12:02 PM (ScR16)
Trees would grow if the natives didn't burn them for firewood.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:05 PM (+y3HG)
I have a neighbor who has a lawn with a big bare dirt patch in the middle of it, right where they have their dog on a chain. From time to time she sees me working on the yard and asks "what do you think I could do to get rid of this big dirt patch?"
Um gee, I dunno. It's a mystery.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:20 PM (S6gqv)
Posted by: The Man with Three Ani at December 02, 2023 12:20 PM (ZpFiX)
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I find it easier to "solve" all these problems around the world when I start with the belief the U.S. of A. has no business meddling in any of the affairs of others. And then shuts the F up, and says nothing about it either.
Don't come here and bother us. That's my foreign policy statement. Period.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:08 PM (QBaJw)
Show me where I said it was up to the USA to do this. Let Russia do it. Or Poland.
Don't come here and bother us. That's my foreign policy statement. Period.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:08 PM (QBaJw)
Show me where I said it was up to the USA to do this. Let Russia do it. Or Poland.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:21 PM (+y3HG)
130
Just like candle wax, just hotter.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
Back in olden days, when I was a Boy Scout, they taught us to create simulated second degree burn blisters by dripping candle wax on our skin. So inflict first degree burns to create the illusion of second degree burns. (We were simulated victims of some simulated catastrophe for training purposes of first responders.)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt
Back in olden days, when I was a Boy Scout, they taught us to create simulated second degree burn blisters by dripping candle wax on our skin. So inflict first degree burns to create the illusion of second degree burns. (We were simulated victims of some simulated catastrophe for training purposes of first responders.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:21 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Riding in a Rolls Royce at December 02, 2023 12:21 PM (NBVIP)
132
So did the infamous Fighting Quaker, Smedley Butler. IIRC, two Medals of Honor and then turned anti-war after retiring from the USMC.
Posted by: Nimarata Randhawa Haley's new nic at December 02, 2023 12:16 PM (oEXy7)
Infamous? For what, telling the truth?
Posted by: Nimarata Randhawa Haley's new nic at December 02, 2023 12:16 PM (oEXy7)
Infamous? For what, telling the truth?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:22 PM (QBaJw)
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VP Harris, "Too many innocent palestians killed."
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Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at December 02, 2023 12:19 PM (GshMh)
What, you mean both of them were killed?
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Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at December 02, 2023 12:19 PM (GshMh)
What, you mean both of them were killed?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Next year in Corsicana - again! ~ at December 02, 2023 12:23 PM (hOUT3)
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Anybody have a clue what to do about Haiti?
Send some Navy, Air Force, and three American divisions to the Don Rep. Working together with the army of the Dom Rep, invade and conquer Haiti. Arrest every government official. Jail them and every criminal for life. Wipe the slate clean and start over.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (uSHSS)
Worked for me!
Send some Navy, Air Force, and three American divisions to the Don Rep. Working together with the army of the Dom Rep, invade and conquer Haiti. Arrest every government official. Jail them and every criminal for life. Wipe the slate clean and start over.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (uSHSS)
Worked for me!
Posted by: Woodrow Wilson at December 02, 2023 12:23 PM (Zkt/A)
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I've been close enough to a flowing river of lava to feel the heat from it. Kilauea on the Big Island. I recall having to sign some sort of waiver from the park service to travel on the road that had been enveloped by the lava. I did a lot of dumb things when I was younger...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:23 PM (MeG8a)
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>>I've read that a volcano has erupted just offshore of Iwo Jima too. And that a new island has formed near Japan. I'm not sure if all this vulcanism is a new phenomenon or is it just better reporting.
The vast amount of volcanic activity on earth is on the Ring of Fire in the Pacific region that includes Japan. Horseshoe shaped pattern that starts around New Zealand, goes up the western pacific islands, across the Aleutian Trench to Alaska and down the other side of the Pacific through the west coast of the US to the southern tip of South America and down to Antarctica.
Volcanoes have been going off on the Ring since the dawn of time. The volcanoes also produce far more greenhouse gases than man ever could which is why they don't report on them as enthusiastically as they should. Narrative protection and all that.
The vast amount of volcanic activity on earth is on the Ring of Fire in the Pacific region that includes Japan. Horseshoe shaped pattern that starts around New Zealand, goes up the western pacific islands, across the Aleutian Trench to Alaska and down the other side of the Pacific through the west coast of the US to the southern tip of South America and down to Antarctica.
Volcanoes have been going off on the Ring since the dawn of time. The volcanoes also produce far more greenhouse gases than man ever could which is why they don't report on them as enthusiastically as they should. Narrative protection and all that.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 02, 2023 12:23 PM (ZLI7S)
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It used to be, our ideological friends on the other side were at least willing to listen, and (temporarily) amenable to facts, logic, and reason.
It is no accident that the very concept of knowledge or knowing itself has been basically criminalized. This is where the “my truth” twaddle comes from.
There is no shared reality or common ground with younger people of a certain bent. They have been indoctrinated thoroughly, and they ain’t comin’ back. Some sort of deep rooted Hypnosis, through media and “school”, and probably drugs. They’ve been doing this since the 1950s in earnest.
It is no accident that the very concept of knowledge or knowing itself has been basically criminalized. This is where the “my truth” twaddle comes from.
There is no shared reality or common ground with younger people of a certain bent. They have been indoctrinated thoroughly, and they ain’t comin’ back. Some sort of deep rooted Hypnosis, through media and “school”, and probably drugs. They’ve been doing this since the 1950s in earnest.
Posted by: Common Tater at December 02, 2023 12:23 PM (l8IOH)
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I'm not sure if all this vulcanism is a new phenomenon or is it just better reporting.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
All I know is we didn't have all these volcanoes when Trump was president.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
All I know is we didn't have all these volcanoes when Trump was president.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:24 PM (FVME7)
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Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:12 PM (MeG8a)
My take is we are in a neighborhood and there are a number of bad neighbors. I am concerned with neighbors whose actions directly affect me and not too concerned with those a block or two from me that stay in their area. I think Israel is a good neighbor and their bad neighbor Hamas also directly affects me. My crazy wife wants to help the neighbor Ukraine two blocks from us though over my objections .
My take is we are in a neighborhood and there are a number of bad neighbors. I am concerned with neighbors whose actions directly affect me and not too concerned with those a block or two from me that stay in their area. I think Israel is a good neighbor and their bad neighbor Hamas also directly affects me. My crazy wife wants to help the neighbor Ukraine two blocks from us though over my objections .
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 12:25 PM (IYUIU)
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War is a racket. And he was correct. I don't think the powers that were thought well of him at the time.
Posted by: Nimarata Randhawa Haley's new nic at December 02, 2023 12:25 PM (oEXy7)
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Anybody have a clue what to do about Haiti?
Send some Navy, Air Force, and three American divisions to the Don Rep. Working together with the army of the Dom Rep, invade and conquer Haiti. Arrest every government official. Jail them and every criminal for life. Wipe the slate clean and start over.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (uSHSS)
Worked for me!
Posted by: Woodrow Wilson at December 02, 2023 12:23 PM (Zkt/A)
Worked for me, too!
Send some Navy, Air Force, and three American divisions to the Don Rep. Working together with the army of the Dom Rep, invade and conquer Haiti. Arrest every government official. Jail them and every criminal for life. Wipe the slate clean and start over.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 02, 2023 11:33 AM (uSHSS)
Worked for me!
Posted by: Woodrow Wilson at December 02, 2023 12:23 PM (Zkt/A)
Worked for me, too!
Posted by: Bill Clinton at December 02, 2023 12:25 PM (3jjIh)
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132 Butler wasn't infamous, just telling the truth. Not really anti war. He revealed early the military industrial complex. Camp Smedey Butler still exists on Okinawa to the best of my knowledge, and was a jumping off point for a lot of us going to Vietnam.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2023 12:25 PM (0EOe9)
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Is there anything to the Saskatchewan tax revolt, supposedly led by the Premeier? Something to do with Ottawa taxing all the profits from oil while trying to shut the oil fields down?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (D7oie)
Saskatchewan, and now Alberta (yay!) are using legal means to block the Federal Gummint's odious "carbon tax" on electricity and home heating fuel.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (D7oie)
Saskatchewan, and now Alberta (yay!) are using legal means to block the Federal Gummint's odious "carbon tax" on electricity and home heating fuel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:25 PM (+y3HG)
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All I know is we didn't have all these volcanoes when Trump was president.
LOL
Biden is such a a douchebag.
LOL
Biden is such a a douchebag.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 02, 2023 12:25 PM (ufFY8)
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128
My Ring of Fire Ani, they burn!
Posted by: The Man with Three Ani at December 02, 2023 12:20 PM (ZpFiX)
Try Dibucaine!
My Ring of Fire Ani, they burn!
Posted by: The Man with Three Ani at December 02, 2023 12:20 PM (ZpFiX)
Try Dibucaine!
Posted by: Hemorrhoid Sufferers Anonymous at December 02, 2023 12:26 PM (PiwSw)
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I think we should decouple from Israel, to both remove ourselves from the conflict and free Israel from our interference.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:17 PM (569hd)
The region has been in a perpetual state of war for decades, largely because American foreign policy wants it that way.
DC doesn't care about Israel. At all. Never has, never will.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:17 PM (569hd)
The region has been in a perpetual state of war for decades, largely because American foreign policy wants it that way.
DC doesn't care about Israel. At all. Never has, never will.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:26 PM (QBaJw)
Posted by: Greta Foulcleft at December 02, 2023 12:27 PM (ZpFiX)
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BUT, when you involve American dollars and American military lives in the conflicts in Israel, now it does matter what Americans (including Free Palestine protesters) think about the issue, and those thoughts are divided.
I think we should decouple from Israel, to both remove ourselves from the conflict and free Israel from our interference.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:17 PM (569hd)
Try and name the last time when an American military life was lost in support of Israel; they're the political excuse for our engagement in the middle east, but the actual reason is to ensure that Saudi and the Gulf States are not dominated/taken over by Iran/Russia/China, either individually or jointly. Because that area controls the economy, and hence the political allegiance, of Europe.
In regards to the middle east, after WW2 and the collapse of the British Empire, America inherited the "Great Game" from them, one which has been going on for at least 2 centuries now. That's why we're involved there, and Israel has next to nothing to do with it.
I think we should decouple from Israel, to both remove ourselves from the conflict and free Israel from our interference.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:17 PM (569hd)
Try and name the last time when an American military life was lost in support of Israel; they're the political excuse for our engagement in the middle east, but the actual reason is to ensure that Saudi and the Gulf States are not dominated/taken over by Iran/Russia/China, either individually or jointly. Because that area controls the economy, and hence the political allegiance, of Europe.
In regards to the middle east, after WW2 and the collapse of the British Empire, America inherited the "Great Game" from them, one which has been going on for at least 2 centuries now. That's why we're involved there, and Israel has next to nothing to do with it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:27 PM (S6gqv)
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Hangovers stink.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 02, 2023 12:13 PM (tcruw)
But not as bad as skunks, right ?
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 02, 2023 12:13 PM (tcruw)
But not as bad as skunks, right ?
Posted by: JT at December 02, 2023 12:28 PM (T4tVD)
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Show me where I said it was up to the USA to do this. Let Russia do it. Or Poland.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:21 PM (+y3HG)
I didn't say you did.
However, the entire U.S. foreign policy philosophy and strategy for decades, since 1945, has been that it is, indeed, up to the U.S.
I'm not arguing with you. My beef is with fedgov.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 02, 2023 12:21 PM (+y3HG)
I didn't say you did.
However, the entire U.S. foreign policy philosophy and strategy for decades, since 1945, has been that it is, indeed, up to the U.S.
I'm not arguing with you. My beef is with fedgov.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:28 PM (QBaJw)
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"In fairness" (hattip the other Ed at PJM) the failboat that is the GloboHomo left finally gleefully cheering Hamas antics openly rather than behind closed doors like the 90s was a long time coming and by design.
Any group that can have donated as heavily as they did to Carter and Clinton and Obama as they had and then act shocked, simply shocked...well
never mind I am certain they all have nice trucks.
Any group that can have donated as heavily as they did to Carter and Clinton and Obama as they had and then act shocked, simply shocked...well
never mind I am certain they all have nice trucks.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 12:30 PM (X0I7i)
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BurtTC might put in that the Leftists don't care, religous conservatives care.
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 12:30 PM (fwDg9)
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Grey Poupon?
Posted by: Riding in a Rolls Royce at December 02, 2023 12:21 PM (NBVIP)
BSAF, IG Farben.
Posted by: Riding in a Rolls Royce at December 02, 2023 12:21 PM (NBVIP)
BSAF, IG Farben.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:31 PM (D7oie)
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War is a racket. And he was correct. I don't think the powers that were thought well of him at the time.
Posted by: Nimarata Randhawa Haley's new nic at December 02, 2023 12:25 PM (oEXy7)
Our government has a funny way of dealing with people who criticize or get in the way of their endless, voracious efforts to swallow everything that comes near their maw.
Up to and including killing Presidents.
Posted by: Nimarata Randhawa Haley's new nic at December 02, 2023 12:25 PM (oEXy7)
Our government has a funny way of dealing with people who criticize or get in the way of their endless, voracious efforts to swallow everything that comes near their maw.
Up to and including killing Presidents.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:32 PM (QBaJw)
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From what I read all the US does is give away money to foreign interests. Kamala just gave away $3B to a climate group today. John Kerry gave away $17M today.
Meanwhile we are beyond broke...
Meanwhile we are beyond broke...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:32 PM (MeG8a)
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The region has been in a perpetual state of war for decades, largely because American foreign policy wants it that way.
DC doesn't care about Israel. At all. Never has, never will.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:26 PM (QBaJw)
I agree, and I should add; sometime during the last 40 years, our "great game" morphed from ensuring that Saudi and the Gulf States will continue to be a reliable supply depot for the western alliance, into every politician, government, and NGO realizing that they could exacerbate the conflict for their own immense personal profit. It's not just the middle east; Ukraine is a prime example.
The problem with just de-engaging is that both China and Iran will try to jump in and seize control instantly if we just walk away.
DC doesn't care about Israel. At all. Never has, never will.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:26 PM (QBaJw)
I agree, and I should add; sometime during the last 40 years, our "great game" morphed from ensuring that Saudi and the Gulf States will continue to be a reliable supply depot for the western alliance, into every politician, government, and NGO realizing that they could exacerbate the conflict for their own immense personal profit. It's not just the middle east; Ukraine is a prime example.
The problem with just de-engaging is that both China and Iran will try to jump in and seize control instantly if we just walk away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:33 PM (S6gqv)
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How can the Aussies control Papua New Guinea with confidence when the OZ left acts as though their own nation is illegitimate due to "colonialism?"
The western left hates the culture it then holds responsible for maintaining its policy preferences and acts bewildered that civilization is eroding....
REALLY?
These are the self-proclaimed REALITY based communities they want the erosion.
The western left hates the culture it then holds responsible for maintaining its policy preferences and acts bewildered that civilization is eroding....
REALLY?
These are the self-proclaimed REALITY based communities they want the erosion.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 12:33 PM (X0I7i)
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So did the infamous Fighting Quaker, Smedley Butler. IIRC, two Medals of Honor and then turned anti-war after retiring from the USMC.
Posted by: Nimarata Randhawa Haley's new nic at December 02, 2023 12:16 PM (oEXy7)
Infamous? For what, telling the truth?
Posted by: BurtTC
When FDR was elected, Butler claimed he was approached by a group of the wealthy and powerful to join in a conspiracy to assassinate FDR. A half the people thought he was a liar and half thought he was a traitor.
Posted by: Nimarata Randhawa Haley's new nic at December 02, 2023 12:16 PM (oEXy7)
Infamous? For what, telling the truth?
Posted by: BurtTC
When FDR was elected, Butler claimed he was approached by a group of the wealthy and powerful to join in a conspiracy to assassinate FDR. A half the people thought he was a liar and half thought he was a traitor.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:34 PM (FVME7)
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152 Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 12:30 PM (fwDg9)
Caring these days too hard gets you put on Federal watchlists, a state of play the Israeli's cousins here helped create.
I care, I cannot care in my public life without reciprocity.
Caring these days too hard gets you put on Federal watchlists, a state of play the Israeli's cousins here helped create.
I care, I cannot care in my public life without reciprocity.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 12:34 PM (X0I7i)
160
Flea flicker for the TD
Posted by: LASue at December 02, 2023 12:34 PM (Ed8Zd)
161
BurtTC might put in that the Leftists don't care, religous conservatives care.
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 12:30 PM (fwDg9)
It could be argued that a moral, Judeo-Christian nation, that is led by men of character, can engage in foreign action without losing its soul, and maintaining a vision of trying to improve the lives of the people whose lands we enter.
But we're not that. We haven't been for a long long time.
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 12:30 PM (fwDg9)
It could be argued that a moral, Judeo-Christian nation, that is led by men of character, can engage in foreign action without losing its soul, and maintaining a vision of trying to improve the lives of the people whose lands we enter.
But we're not that. We haven't been for a long long time.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:34 PM (QBaJw)
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The region has been in a perpetual state of war for decades, largely because American foreign policy wants it that way.
DC doesn't care about Israel. At all. Never has, never will.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:26 PM (QBaJw)
Oddly, that is the point of view that so proclaimed "narcissistic ass" David Stockman has in the article I linked.
DC doesn't care about Israel. At all. Never has, never will.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:26 PM (QBaJw)
Oddly, that is the point of view that so proclaimed "narcissistic ass" David Stockman has in the article I linked.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:35 PM (D7oie)
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31
'Like Hayward points out, there are not that many of the crazies.'
It's tantalizing to think that we could be just a few dead leftists away from ending their reign of terror.
'Like Hayward points out, there are not that many of the crazies.'
It's tantalizing to think that we could be just a few dead leftists away from ending their reign of terror.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 02, 2023 12:35 PM (roH4R)
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The Clintons were heavily "invested" in Haiti. They made a royal mess of the place. So, on the one hand you have an idea what the US would look like if the Clintons remained in political power to a greater extent here. Not that Obama and *biden are any better. They're not. Perhaps worse.
But Haiti could have pulled itself out of the sewer, but didn't. Whether that's the Clinton's fault is arguable. They did funnel a lot of money into the place. Yeah, it was a scam. All their "initiatives" are grifting ops.
But the answer to Haiti's problems is probably something unpalatable to the locals... so it festers. You can't help people who don't want to help themselves.
But Haiti could have pulled itself out of the sewer, but didn't. Whether that's the Clinton's fault is arguable. They did funnel a lot of money into the place. Yeah, it was a scam. All their "initiatives" are grifting ops.
But the answer to Haiti's problems is probably something unpalatable to the locals... so it festers. You can't help people who don't want to help themselves.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2023 12:35 PM (Q4IgG)
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From what I read all the US does is give away money to foreign interests. Kamala just gave away $3B to a climate group today. John Kerry gave away $17M today.
Meanwhile we are beyond broke...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:32 PM (MeG8a)
I remember when Congress used to allocate money.
Meanwhile we are beyond broke...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:32 PM (MeG8a)
I remember when Congress used to allocate money.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (QBaJw)
166
Molten rocks make you fight with Abe Lincoln
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (63Dwl)
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Good post K.T. The story about Papua New Guinea and forced fellatio with semen ingestion is an eye opener. My first thought was "well at least they're not eating each other"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (m89E2)
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Try and name the last time when an American military life was lost in support of Israel;
June 8, 1967.
June 8, 1967.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (onFzJ)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:33 PM (S6gqv)
Why agree with that. There are many times since Israel was created when we made decision not to pick sides and were instrumental in stopping the conflicts.
Why agree with that. There are many times since Israel was created when we made decision not to pick sides and were instrumental in stopping the conflicts.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 12:37 PM (IYUIU)
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Tom Servo
Imperial overstretch. Let Iran and China take over. Eventually they will regret that.
Fix the US first.
Imperial overstretch. Let Iran and China take over. Eventually they will regret that.
Fix the US first.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 12:37 PM (u82oZ)
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158 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:34 PM (FVME7)
Butler is an enigmatic figure, and was as was the norm then quite the partisan democrat.
Butler is an enigmatic figure, and was as was the norm then quite the partisan democrat.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 12:37 PM (X0I7i)
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The problem with just de-engaging is that both China and Iran will try to jump in and seize control instantly if we just walk away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:33 PM (S6gqv)
Ummm . . . You do know KSA is now doing oil contracts with China for Yuan? Probably the Saudis are looking at the long term, and what happened when the Russians decided to say "no" to everything the Neocons demanded.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:33 PM (S6gqv)
Ummm . . . You do know KSA is now doing oil contracts with China for Yuan? Probably the Saudis are looking at the long term, and what happened when the Russians decided to say "no" to everything the Neocons demanded.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:37 PM (D7oie)
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164 Clintons invested. I've seen Tunnels 2 Towers commercials stating that 95% of donations go directly to charity, and have not seen anything otherwise. Betcha the Clinton Global Initiative is the reverse.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2023 12:38 PM (0EOe9)
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The problem with just de-engaging is that both China and Iran will try to jump in and seize control instantly if we just walk away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:33 PM (S6gqv)
Not that I expect we ever will, but if we did, and they did, we'd have to have the moral courage of saying "so be it."
Not our place to concern ourselves with it anymore.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:33 PM (S6gqv)
Not that I expect we ever will, but if we did, and they did, we'd have to have the moral courage of saying "so be it."
Not our place to concern ourselves with it anymore.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:38 PM (QBaJw)
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155 From what I read all the US does is give away money to foreign interests. Kamala just gave away $3B to a climate group today. John Kerry gave away $17M today.
Meanwhile we are beyond broke...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:32 PM (MeG8a)
It makes sense when you understand that out of that $3B that Kamala gave away, $2.9B went to Democrat Party supporters and and the remaining $0.1B went to friends and family.
Meanwhile we are beyond broke...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:32 PM (MeG8a)
It makes sense when you understand that out of that $3B that Kamala gave away, $2.9B went to Democrat Party supporters and and the remaining $0.1B went to friends and family.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:38 PM (S6gqv)
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Oddly, that is the point of view that so proclaimed "narcissistic ass" David Stockman has in the article I linked.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:35 PM (D
That's not odd at all .
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:35 PM (D
That's not odd at all .
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 12:39 PM (IYUIU)
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Is there anything to the Saskatchewan tax revolt, supposedly led by the Premeier? Something to do with Ottawa taxing all the profits from oil while trying to shut the oil fields down?
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (D7oie)
Saskatchewan, and now Alberta (yay!) are using legal means to block the Federal Gummint's odious "carbon tax" on electricity and home heating fuel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Part of the problem with their 'Carbon Tax' is they gave the East Coast people a couple of year exemption to the taxes.
Something about taxing the Westerners and giving breaks to the Easterners at the same time vexes the West of Canada. Gee I wonder why...
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:09 PM (D7oie)
Saskatchewan, and now Alberta (yay!) are using legal means to block the Federal Gummint's odious "carbon tax" on electricity and home heating fuel.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Part of the problem with their 'Carbon Tax' is they gave the East Coast people a couple of year exemption to the taxes.
Something about taxing the Westerners and giving breaks to the Easterners at the same time vexes the West of Canada. Gee I wonder why...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 02, 2023 12:39 PM (JrESR)
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June 8, 1967.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (onFzJ)
Rather a long time to nurse a grudge, isn't it?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (onFzJ)
Rather a long time to nurse a grudge, isn't it?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:39 PM (S6gqv)
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61
'Sell island to Donald Trump to turn into a retirement island for old farts from America.'
I tried that and they murdered me in prison
'Sell island to Donald Trump to turn into a retirement island for old farts from America.'
I tried that and they murdered me in prison
Posted by: Zombie Jeffrey Epstein at December 02, 2023 12:39 PM (roH4R)
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164 Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2023 12:35 PM (Q4IgG)
As a Russian friend of mine says of his country, "Only the Russians could have achieved all we have over the centuries with what God has gifted us."
It reads like a brag, it is not.
A well ran Haiti would be a paradise, why is it not well run and how does that get fixed?
Spoiler it does not involve Clintons acting as the pay window for handouts.
As a Russian friend of mine says of his country, "Only the Russians could have achieved all we have over the centuries with what God has gifted us."
It reads like a brag, it is not.
A well ran Haiti would be a paradise, why is it not well run and how does that get fixed?
Spoiler it does not involve Clintons acting as the pay window for handouts.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 12:39 PM (X0I7i)
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Rather a long time to nurse a grudge, isn't it?
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:39 PM (S6gqv)
Again, no grudge.
Neutrality is not animosity.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:39 PM (S6gqv)
Again, no grudge.
Neutrality is not animosity.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:40 PM (onFzJ)
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Bitter Clinger
Aviators world-wide have very poor ship ID skills.
I thought otherwise, but my own experiences in the Eastern Med, and a good book convinced me it was the aviator's fault. The Navy and Air Force command centers were not co-locared.
Oops. Just like we said the the Canadians we waxed in the Middle East.
Aviators world-wide have very poor ship ID skills.
I thought otherwise, but my own experiences in the Eastern Med, and a good book convinced me it was the aviator's fault. The Navy and Air Force command centers were not co-locared.
Oops. Just like we said the the Canadians we waxed in the Middle East.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 12:40 PM (u82oZ)
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When FDR was elected, Butler claimed he was approached by a group of the wealthy and powerful to join in a conspiracy to assassinate FDR. A half the people thought he was a liar and half thought he was a traitor.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:34 PM (FVME7)
One of those funny things, I guess. When someone with a long track record of being honest and loyal, tells you something, and the people he's talking about start saying he's a liar and a traitor, you kinda have to scratch your head and wonder.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:34 PM (FVME7)
One of those funny things, I guess. When someone with a long track record of being honest and loyal, tells you something, and the people he's talking about start saying he's a liar and a traitor, you kinda have to scratch your head and wonder.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:41 PM (QBaJw)
Posted by: B. Rodriguez at December 02, 2023 12:41 PM (ZpFiX)
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From what I read all the US does is give away money to foreign interests. Kamala just gave away $3B to a climate group today. John Kerry gave away $17M today.
Meanwhile we are beyond broke...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:32 PM (MeG8a)
Broke, busted, in debt and still handing out cash.
Meanwhile we are beyond broke...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 02, 2023 12:32 PM (MeG8a)
Broke, busted, in debt and still handing out cash.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 12:42 PM (R/m4+)
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Aviators world-wide have very poor ship ID skills.
I was asked a pointed question, I gave a pointed answer.
I'm not describing what happened, only answering a pointed question.
I was asked a pointed question, I gave a pointed answer.
I'm not describing what happened, only answering a pointed question.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:42 PM (onFzJ)
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Oddly, that is the point of view that so proclaimed "narcissistic ass" David Stockman has in the article I linked.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:35 PM (D7oie)
Seems pretty clear to me. I know everyone is DC claims they are allied with Israel, but then I look at what's been happening there all these years.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:35 PM (D7oie)
Seems pretty clear to me. I know everyone is DC claims they are allied with Israel, but then I look at what's been happening there all these years.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:42 PM (QBaJw)
188
Dick Nixon was also a "Fighting Quaker".
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 12:43 PM (aD39U)
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Not that I expect we ever will, but if we did, and they did, we'd have to have the moral courage of saying "so be it."
Not our place to concern ourselves with it anymore.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:38 PM (QBaJw)
The best way for us to do this would be to have massively developed our own energy resources - instead we have been persuing a policy to make our own position, and the rest of the worlds, vastly more precarious.
This country currently faces, in many ways, what in the past was talked about as a "wicked problem" - one in which every possible outcome is bad. There are no good ways out, we can only try to pick the least bad future. (but we seem set on doing the opposite)
Not that I expect we ever will, but if we did, and they did, we'd have to have the moral courage of saying "so be it."
Not our place to concern ourselves with it anymore.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:38 PM (QBaJw)
The best way for us to do this would be to have massively developed our own energy resources - instead we have been persuing a policy to make our own position, and the rest of the worlds, vastly more precarious.
This country currently faces, in many ways, what in the past was talked about as a "wicked problem" - one in which every possible outcome is bad. There are no good ways out, we can only try to pick the least bad future. (but we seem set on doing the opposite)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:44 PM (S6gqv)
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184 Posted by: B. Rodriguez at December 02, 2023 12:41 PM (ZpFiX)
*or* open up an honest tourist sector, and concentrate on resource exploitation, developing some maritime industrial ability and flagging cargo vessels with your population manning them...
I mean one makes more sense than the other but I'll let you pick.
*or* open up an honest tourist sector, and concentrate on resource exploitation, developing some maritime industrial ability and flagging cargo vessels with your population manning them...
I mean one makes more sense than the other but I'll let you pick.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 12:44 PM (X0I7i)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:44 PM (QBaJw)
Posted by: anachronda at December 02, 2023 12:45 PM (edU/H)
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Ummm . . . You do know KSA is now doing oil contracts with China for Yuan? Probably the Saudis are looking at the long term, and what happened when the Russians decided to say "no" to everything the Neocons demanded.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:37 PM (D7oie)
Why, you'd almost think this was a good time for the U.S. of A. to try to be energy independent, rather than shutting down all our production and drilling.
Almost.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 12:37 PM (D7oie)
Why, you'd almost think this was a good time for the U.S. of A. to try to be energy independent, rather than shutting down all our production and drilling.
Almost.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:46 PM (QBaJw)
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Bitter Clinger
Your answer was the truth. I just gave it a bit of context.
What the world needs is a better way to select leaders that advance the world and it's people, not their own kinks and bank vault.
Go long on training termites in tech. (OBSF reference to an A.C. Clarke short story collected in Tales of The White Hart.)
Your answer was the truth. I just gave it a bit of context.
What the world needs is a better way to select leaders that advance the world and it's people, not their own kinks and bank vault.
Go long on training termites in tech. (OBSF reference to an A.C. Clarke short story collected in Tales of The White Hart.)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 12:46 PM (u82oZ)
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Molten rocks make you fight with Abe Lincoln
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (63Dwl)
Help me, Spock..
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (63Dwl)
Help me, Spock..
Posted by: Surak at December 02, 2023 12:46 PM (aD39U)
196
Again, no grudge.
Neutrality is not animosity.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:40 PM (onFz
Friendly fire happens in every war. It's a sad thing, but the US Army has done it as much as anyone.
Neutrality is not animosity.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:40 PM (onFz
Friendly fire happens in every war. It's a sad thing, but the US Army has done it as much as anyone.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:47 PM (S6gqv)
197
June 8, 1967.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (onFzJ)
Was that in active support of Israel in a war ? I thought that was what the statement was .
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (onFzJ)
Was that in active support of Israel in a war ? I thought that was what the statement was .
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 12:48 PM (IYUIU)
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195 Molten rocks make you fight with Abe Lincoln
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (63Dwl)
Help me, Spock..
Posted by: Surak at December 02, 2023 12:46 PM (aD39U)
SBFO (Steal Babies, Find Out)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2023 12:36 PM (63Dwl)
Help me, Spock..
Posted by: Surak at December 02, 2023 12:46 PM (aD39U)
SBFO (Steal Babies, Find Out)
Posted by: The Horta at December 02, 2023 12:48 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 02, 2023 12:48 PM (9mNHV)
200
Maybe it's not local (USA) maybe it's a mind virus bred in Switzerland, Davos and spread to the world.
From last night:
Israel elites are as screwed up as ours.
Brigadier General, Yaron Finkelman Southern Command of the Israel Defense Forces . Made his soldiers in the Gaza clean up the graffiti they had painted. You know, the Star of David, God is great all of that kind of graffiti. Humiliating huh?
then
Major General Aharon Haliva, commander, IDF Military Intelligence Directorate told a graduating class that they were not fighting an existential war.
Caroline Glick Explains it better and in more detail.
(she's wants them fired)
https://is.gd/DgWgAH
From last night:
Israel elites are as screwed up as ours.
Brigadier General, Yaron Finkelman Southern Command of the Israel Defense Forces . Made his soldiers in the Gaza clean up the graffiti they had painted. You know, the Star of David, God is great all of that kind of graffiti. Humiliating huh?
then
Major General Aharon Haliva, commander, IDF Military Intelligence Directorate told a graduating class that they were not fighting an existential war.
Caroline Glick Explains it better and in more detail.
(she's wants them fired)
https://is.gd/DgWgAH
Posted by: Braenyard at December 02, 2023 12:49 PM (uwNnT)
201
Butler's dad was a progressive republican congress critter IIRC, and essentially Smedley during his entire career was a sort of Progressive Puck and I am offering that not as a copout insult.
Butler fancied himself America's reality's narrator....
His dad engaged in calumny against the Knights of Columbus reading a bogus "oath" into the record impugning the organization of being a conspiracy against protestants.
Remember kids, "the designated truth tellers" it takes a lot of effort to make the Wilson administration look 1/4 sane but like a good neighbor Butler was there.
Butler fancied himself America's reality's narrator....
His dad engaged in calumny against the Knights of Columbus reading a bogus "oath" into the record impugning the organization of being a conspiracy against protestants.
Remember kids, "the designated truth tellers" it takes a lot of effort to make the Wilson administration look 1/4 sane but like a good neighbor Butler was there.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 12:49 PM (X0I7i)
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The problem with just de-engaging is that both China and Iran will try to jump in and seize control instantly if we just walk away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:33 PM (S6gqv)
And there, right there, is the problem with actually taking a strong stance on ANYTHING when it comes to dealing with Conservatives. No matter what, even if it's "right and moral", well Hell boys - it'll be painful. Uncomfortable. People may die. Or get cold. Or miss a meal.
Nope. Can't have that. There must be another way. God forbid there even be empty store shelves. Imagine the horror.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:33 PM (S6gqv)
And there, right there, is the problem with actually taking a strong stance on ANYTHING when it comes to dealing with Conservatives. No matter what, even if it's "right and moral", well Hell boys - it'll be painful. Uncomfortable. People may die. Or get cold. Or miss a meal.
Nope. Can't have that. There must be another way. God forbid there even be empty store shelves. Imagine the horror.
Posted by: How Things Work at December 02, 2023 12:50 PM (6/aEZ)
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Pass laws outlawing petrol based fuel in some number of years and see oil producing nations change their selling habits.
Gee I wonder if they believed the people passing those anti-oil laws and decided they should sell to people who want their product long-term...
Gee I wonder if they believed the people passing those anti-oil laws and decided they should sell to people who want their product long-term...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 02, 2023 12:50 PM (JrESR)
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Haiti? Well I'd suck out their brains with a straw, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc...
Haiti? Well I'd suck out their brains with a straw, sell the widows and orphans, and go into South American zinc...
Posted by: City Gent at December 02, 2023 12:50 PM (ZpFiX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:51 PM (FVME7)
206
Dick Nixon was also a "Fighting Quaker".
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 12:43 PM (aD39U)
I would assume you know, but if that is not a school's mascot somewhere, it certainly should be.
And not some smarmy thing, like the Irish, but a big brawny guy in an oats can hat and coat, with some poor schmuck on the ground under his feet, good and pummeled.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 12:43 PM (aD39U)
I would assume you know, but if that is not a school's mascot somewhere, it certainly should be.
And not some smarmy thing, like the Irish, but a big brawny guy in an oats can hat and coat, with some poor schmuck on the ground under his feet, good and pummeled.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:51 PM (QBaJw)
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Dick Nixon was also a "Fighting Quaker".
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
Alan Ladd played one in The Deep Six
www.imdb.com/title/tt0050298
Dick Nixon was also a "Fighting Quaker".
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
Alan Ladd played one in The Deep Six
www.imdb.com/title/tt0050298
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 02, 2023 12:52 PM (63Dwl)
208
Trump provides his own version of the Meatball v. Hair Gel debate.
https://tinyurl.com/3vacajsr
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:51 PM (FVME7)
Since he praised Newsom in the past while disparaging DeSantis at the same time I can assume his take.
https://tinyurl.com/3vacajsr
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:51 PM (FVME7)
Since he praised Newsom in the past while disparaging DeSantis at the same time I can assume his take.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 12:53 PM (IYUIU)
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188 Didn't he start the war with Vietnam and bombed Jane Fonda? Or did he get elected because of his pledge to get out of Vietnam? Still the quintessential American villain. Infamous. Regardless of the truth.
Posted by: Nimarata Randhawa Haley's new nic at December 02, 2023 12:53 PM (oEXy7)
210
Flea flicker for the TD
Posted by: LASue
_________
"The flea flicker was invented by University of Illinois coach Bob Zupke. Zuppke, who intended the play to resemble 'the quick flicking action of a dog getting rid of fleas.'"
This first flea flicker was apparently a fake field goal, with the holder pitching the ball to the kicker for a pass.
Posted by: LASue
_________
"The flea flicker was invented by University of Illinois coach Bob Zupke. Zuppke, who intended the play to resemble 'the quick flicking action of a dog getting rid of fleas.'"
This first flea flicker was apparently a fake field goal, with the holder pitching the ball to the kicker for a pass.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 02, 2023 12:54 PM (Dm8we)
211
The best way for us to do this would be to have massively developed our own energy resources - instead we have been persuing a policy to make our own position, and the rest of the worlds, vastly more precarious.
This country currently faces, in many ways, what in the past was talked about as a "wicked problem" - one in which every possible outcome is bad. There are no good ways out, we can only try to pick the least bad future. (but we seem set on doing the opposite)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:44 PM (S6gqv)
Yup. I've heard some say, and not just Tucker, but others who say if we do coax Iran into a war, at least in the short term they will shut down our energy access so quick, we won't know what hit us.
Whether it would take days, weeks, or months to reopen our access to energy, I don't know, but it would hurt us, bad.
This country currently faces, in many ways, what in the past was talked about as a "wicked problem" - one in which every possible outcome is bad. There are no good ways out, we can only try to pick the least bad future. (but we seem set on doing the opposite)
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:44 PM (S6gqv)
Yup. I've heard some say, and not just Tucker, but others who say if we do coax Iran into a war, at least in the short term they will shut down our energy access so quick, we won't know what hit us.
Whether it would take days, weeks, or months to reopen our access to energy, I don't know, but it would hurt us, bad.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 12:54 PM (QBaJw)
212
Hangovers stink.
Posted by: nurse ratched
-------
Winding up a visit with my doc at the VA, I mentioned that I could not imagine how she endured the non-stop litany of complaints by patients. Day in, day out, never ending. She responded with a laugh, 'I drink heavily when I get home'. I offered to send over a bottle of Scotch.
Posted by: nurse ratched
-------
Winding up a visit with my doc at the VA, I mentioned that I could not imagine how she endured the non-stop litany of complaints by patients. Day in, day out, never ending. She responded with a laugh, 'I drink heavily when I get home'. I offered to send over a bottle of Scotch.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2023 12:54 PM (XeU6L)
213
Papua New Guinea and Haiti should both be cut off from all outside contact for 100 years; let them sink back into the stone age, send one heavily armed mission there 100 years from now to see what happened.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:54 PM (S6gqv)
214
"Oh, by the way, I'm not a Quaker".
CPT Winters, CO, Easy Co, after taking a swig out of a bottle
CPT Winters, CO, Easy Co, after taking a swig out of a bottle
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2023 12:55 PM (0EOe9)
215
Haiti has been a hellhole since before its independence. Napoleon did the math and figured letting Haiti go was worth it. Their first president named himself emperor and then was assassinated. It's been downhill ever since. The minute we left after our 19 year occupation it went back to hell. Papa Doc might have been a highlight .
Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 02, 2023 12:55 PM (m89E2)
216
Papua New Guinea and Haiti should both be cut off from all outside contact for 100 years; let them sink back into the stone age, send one heavily armed mission there 100 years from now to see what happened.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:54 PM (S6gqv)
Detroit too.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:54 PM (S6gqv)
Detroit too.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 12:56 PM (R/m4+)
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215 Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 02, 2023 12:55 PM (m89E2)
Haiti has the government it deserves.
The people need to actually want something better.
Haiti has the government it deserves.
The people need to actually want something better.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 12:56 PM (X0I7i)
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61. Haiti? Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 11:58 AM
Is under U.S. Temporary Protected Status and Humanitarian Patrol, along with Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua. Looks like part of O&Joe's open borders with financial assistance program.
As such, it'll never end but citizenship could be unlikely. Who knows?
Is under U.S. Temporary Protected Status and Humanitarian Patrol, along with Cuba, Venezuela, and Nicaragua. Looks like part of O&Joe's open borders with financial assistance program.
As such, it'll never end but citizenship could be unlikely. Who knows?
Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at December 02, 2023 12:56 PM (GshMh)
219
The '60s protests were funded by the Russian communists, bigly.
I think Soros took notes from them. Pay and train leader/instigators then have them infiltrate and move things along.
They were/are training BLM/antiFa in bookstores.
I think Soros took notes from them. Pay and train leader/instigators then have them infiltrate and move things along.
They were/are training BLM/antiFa in bookstores.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 02, 2023 12:57 PM (uwNnT)
220
Haiti has the government it deserves. The people need to actually want something better.
That's the theme, over and over and over again, isn't it Sven. In the long term, groups really do get what they ask for, in the macro sense. Even if it turns out they don't like it.
That's the theme, over and over and over again, isn't it Sven. In the long term, groups really do get what they ask for, in the macro sense. Even if it turns out they don't like it.
Posted by: How Things Work at December 02, 2023 12:58 PM (6/aEZ)
221
212 Hangovers stink.
Posted by: nurse ratched
-------
Winding up a visit with my doc at the VA, I mentioned that I could not imagine how she endured the non-stop litany of complaints by patients. Day in, day out, never ending. She responded with a laugh, 'I drink heavily when I get home'. I offered to send over a bottle of Scotch.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc
A whole lot of us drank very heavily during Covid. It was never ending doom and gloom. And panic and distrust.
Posted by: nurse ratched
-------
Winding up a visit with my doc at the VA, I mentioned that I could not imagine how she endured the non-stop litany of complaints by patients. Day in, day out, never ending. She responded with a laugh, 'I drink heavily when I get home'. I offered to send over a bottle of Scotch.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc
A whole lot of us drank very heavily during Covid. It was never ending doom and gloom. And panic and distrust.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 02, 2023 12:58 PM (3drxe)
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The Haitians want their problems solved and delivered to them on a silver platter. They then want someone else to polish the silver platter every month.
Until that mindset changes Haiti is a lost cause.
Until that mindset changes Haiti is a lost cause.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2023 12:58 PM (Q4IgG)
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Since he praised Newsom in the past while disparaging DeSantis at the same time I can assume his take.
Posted by: Drive by
Yes, but it is funny.
Posted by: Drive by
Yes, but it is funny.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 12:58 PM (FVME7)
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Parole not Patrol. Egads.
Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at December 02, 2023 12:59 PM (GshMh)
Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at December 02, 2023 12:59 PM (ZpFiX)
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Refining capacity is our Achilles heal, IMO. They are big, few, and extremely flammable. After what we have seen small drones do in Ukraine, I would assume that the dozen's of Iranian and/or Russian sleepers the Democrats have let into the country will have our refineries burning within 12 hours of a go signal.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:00 PM (NwuoC)
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Was that in active support of Israel in a war ? I thought that was what the statement was .
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 12:48 PM (IYUIU)
Open to interpretation, I suppose.
You either believe the US had ships there during the 6 Day war on routine patrol, or you think the two issues may be connected.
Just as you may believe the deployment of of two aircraft carrier strike groups to the region at this time are either on coincidental routine patrol or they are deployed there on standby as part of ongoing conflicts.
Posted by: Drive by at December 02, 2023 12:48 PM (IYUIU)
Open to interpretation, I suppose.
You either believe the US had ships there during the 6 Day war on routine patrol, or you think the two issues may be connected.
Just as you may believe the deployment of of two aircraft carrier strike groups to the region at this time are either on coincidental routine patrol or they are deployed there on standby as part of ongoing conflicts.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 01:00 PM (onFzJ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 01:00 PM (FVME7)
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Haiti has the government it deserves. The people need to actually want something better.
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WFB once said, 'I can think of no better argument for colonialism than Haiti'.
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WFB once said, 'I can think of no better argument for colonialism than Haiti'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at December 02, 2023 01:00 PM (XeU6L)
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202 The problem with just de-engaging is that both China and Iran will try to jump in and seize control instantly if we just walk away.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:33 PM (S6gqv)
And there, right there, is the problem with actually taking a strong stance on ANYTHING when it comes to dealing with Conservatives. No matter what, even if it's "right and moral", well Hell boys - it'll be painful. Uncomfortable. People may die. Or get cold. Or miss a meal.
Nope. Can't have that. There must be another way. God forbid there even be empty store shelves. Imagine the horror.
Posted by: How Things Work
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How things work is human nature - nature itself - there will always be a king of the hill. Do you want to be down hill from Russia or China or any other nation?
The problem is how do we ethically go about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:33 PM (S6gqv)
And there, right there, is the problem with actually taking a strong stance on ANYTHING when it comes to dealing with Conservatives. No matter what, even if it's "right and moral", well Hell boys - it'll be painful. Uncomfortable. People may die. Or get cold. Or miss a meal.
Nope. Can't have that. There must be another way. God forbid there even be empty store shelves. Imagine the horror.
Posted by: How Things Work
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How things work is human nature - nature itself - there will always be a king of the hill. Do you want to be down hill from Russia or China or any other nation?
The problem is how do we ethically go about it.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 02, 2023 01:01 PM (uwNnT)
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220 Posted by: How Things Work at December 02, 2023 12:58 PM (6/aEZ)
If you want entertained in a not funny way go to Disqus and read my replies from JC Kluge wherein JC tries to imply that the violence in chicago really IS my fault....
https://disqus.com/by/disqus_LC6BexHV2M/
Told them repeatedly "no actually champ it is chicago's kind of the whole point of the American experiment."
If you want entertained in a not funny way go to Disqus and read my replies from JC Kluge wherein JC tries to imply that the violence in chicago really IS my fault....
https://disqus.com/by/disqus_LC6BexHV2M/
Told them repeatedly "no actually champ it is chicago's kind of the whole point of the American experiment."
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 01:01 PM (X0I7i)
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I'm no volcano expert, but isn't standing downstream from molten lava a bad idea?
Posted by: Weasel at December 02, 2023 01:01 PM (RG6z4)
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Seen video of volcanos spitting out molten rock like mortar shells to want to be standing within a mile of it.
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 01:01 PM (fwDg9)
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Haiti? Heck, we prospered there. Millions, I mean *millions*.
Posted by: The Clinton Clan at December 02, 2023 01:01 PM (XeU6L)
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enjoying the return of Tiger to competition.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2023 01:02 PM (XXvpy)
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Worked for me, too!
Posted by: Bill Clinton
Samolia was a well publiced disaster...
10th Mountain Division was diverted to Haiti as an Exepetitionarl Force when they demob'd from Yugoslavia(?).
I was in the 25th when it relieved the 10th. Before going was walking through the motor pool and noted to another guy, "We are going to a 3rd world shit-hole that has collapsed. What is wrong with this picture?" as I wave towards all our heavy equipment (dozers, 'backhoes' and dump trucks) which was not loaded onto the ship. We started as an Expeditionary Force then morphed into Humanitarian Aid. Sent the battalion home three months early because we had no heavy equipemnt that was needed.
Posted by: Bill Clinton
Samolia was a well publiced disaster...
10th Mountain Division was diverted to Haiti as an Exepetitionarl Force when they demob'd from Yugoslavia(?).
I was in the 25th when it relieved the 10th. Before going was walking through the motor pool and noted to another guy, "We are going to a 3rd world shit-hole that has collapsed. What is wrong with this picture?" as I wave towards all our heavy equipment (dozers, 'backhoes' and dump trucks) which was not loaded onto the ship. We started as an Expeditionary Force then morphed into Humanitarian Aid. Sent the battalion home three months early because we had no heavy equipemnt that was needed.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2023 01:02 PM (cOq4q)
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217 215 Posted by: Smell the Glove at December 02, 2023 12:55 PM (m89E2)
Haiti has the government it deserves.
The people need to actually want something better.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 12:56 PM (X0I7i)
Thomas Hobbes has entered the chat. Haiti is mankind in its natural state. We’re incredibly lucky we were born in a time and place still coasting on the genius blood sweat and tears of past generations
Haiti has the government it deserves.
The people need to actually want something better.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 12:56 PM (X0I7i)
Thomas Hobbes has entered the chat. Haiti is mankind in its natural state. We’re incredibly lucky we were born in a time and place still coasting on the genius blood sweat and tears of past generations
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:02 PM (xT8gx)
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The Haitians want their problems solved and delivered to them on a silver platter. They then want someone else to polish the silver platter every month.
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Now do Chicago.
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Now do Chicago.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 01:03 PM (FVME7)
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You can see Haiti's border with the Dominican Republic from space.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:03 PM (NwuoC)
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228 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 01:00 PM (FVME7)
I do repeatedly it will even be the case here as we voluntarily descend into the third world AW.
National prosperity INVARIABVLY tracks back to national character and national culture.
A) is ALWAYS cultural character flowing to z) economic situation
I do repeatedly it will even be the case here as we voluntarily descend into the third world AW.
National prosperity INVARIABVLY tracks back to national character and national culture.
A) is ALWAYS cultural character flowing to z) economic situation
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 01:03 PM (X0I7i)
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212 I had a Doc visit at the VA about the first of November. Lab results were great for my age. He said whatever I'm doing, keep doing it and "I know you lie, all my patients your age lie" and went on to something taught in med school. And then he said keep up the good work.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2023 01:03 PM (0EOe9)
Posted by: Ped Xing at December 02, 2023 01:03 PM (ZpFiX)
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I'm no volcano expert, but isn't standing downstream from molten lava a bad idea?
Posted by: Weasel
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I'm always astounded when I see a photo of someone standing near the rim of a spewing volcano.
Posted by: Weasel
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I'm always astounded when I see a photo of someone standing near the rim of a spewing volcano.
Posted by: The Clinton Clan at December 02, 2023 01:04 PM (XeU6L)
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Nope. Can't have that. There must be another way. God forbid there even be empty store shelves. Imagine the horror.
Posted by: How Things Work at December 02, 2023 12:50 PM (6/aEZ)
We aren't talking about empty store shelves, we'll be talking about a collapse in living standards back to maybe 1923 levels, if not 1883 levels. And we have at at least 100 million people too many to survive at that level, so the fight to see which 100 million get eliminated will be intense. Just one of our possible futures.
Posted by: How Things Work at December 02, 2023 12:50 PM (6/aEZ)
We aren't talking about empty store shelves, we'll be talking about a collapse in living standards back to maybe 1923 levels, if not 1883 levels. And we have at at least 100 million people too many to survive at that level, so the fight to see which 100 million get eliminated will be intense. Just one of our possible futures.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 01:04 PM (S6gqv)
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Interesting thought I just had... Vivek came out against pipelines. You know who else has a huge bug up his ass about pipelines?
RFK Jr.
Is Vivek thinking of joining forces with RFK? He seems a bit of a loose cannon.
Interesting thought I just had... Vivek came out against pipelines. You know who else has a huge bug up his ass about pipelines?
RFK Jr.
Is Vivek thinking of joining forces with RFK? He seems a bit of a loose cannon.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 01:04 PM (enJYY)
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'but if that is not a school's mascot somewhere, it certainly should be.'
It is in the town I live in.
'but if that is not a school's mascot somewhere, it certainly should be.'
It is in the town I live in.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at December 02, 2023 01:04 PM (roH4R)
Posted by: Ped Xing at December 02, 2023 01:04 PM (ZpFiX)
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220 Posted by: How Things Work at December 02, 2023 12:58 PM (6/aEZ)
absolutely, at any rate look to Detroit for where America as a whole is headed.
absolutely, at any rate look to Detroit for where America as a whole is headed.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 01:05 PM (X0I7i)
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Oklahoma State just got jobbed on an interception.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:05 PM (NwuoC)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 02, 2023 01:06 PM (3Gtis)
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Are there organized tours of the Kaluli territories for interested Americans?
Posted by: John Podesta at December 02, 2023 01:06 PM (XXvpy)
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Trump is probably the only earnestly pro-Israel president in my lifetime, inasmuch as he gave them full diplomatic recognition and did a few things to settle down regional tensions. The others paid lip service but seem to have really just invoked Israel's name as an all-too-willing catspaw to force certain Cold War era institutions' continued relevance.
Posted by: CppThis at December 02, 2023 01:06 PM (PZvjL)
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Hangovers stink.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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I get occasional migraines and have an Rx for sumitriptan. It works wonders on hangovers.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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I get occasional migraines and have an Rx for sumitriptan. It works wonders on hangovers.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at December 02, 2023 01:07 PM (Dm8we)
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Bitter Clinger
The US deliberately move the USS Liberty to be closer to the shoreline. Because the survailance technology on that ship would tell the Pentagon and the White House what the hell was going on in the 6 Days War. No good Sig Int satellites than, and the monitoring stations in Cyprus were mostly UK, and could not pick up the local tactical transmissions.
The Liberty was our key intercept platform, but we had others. US NSGA personnel were killed by the torpedo. My family lost friends there. My father was selected to reconstitute that monitoring facility, until a damage assessment said - no way.
The US deliberately move the USS Liberty to be closer to the shoreline. Because the survailance technology on that ship would tell the Pentagon and the White House what the hell was going on in the 6 Days War. No good Sig Int satellites than, and the monitoring stations in Cyprus were mostly UK, and could not pick up the local tactical transmissions.
The Liberty was our key intercept platform, but we had others. US NSGA personnel were killed by the torpedo. My family lost friends there. My father was selected to reconstitute that monitoring facility, until a damage assessment said - no way.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:07 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 01:09 PM (FVME7)
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I'm no volcano expert, but isn't standing downstream from molten lava a bad idea?
Posted by: Weasel at December 02, 2023 01:01 PM (RG6z4)
Hold my beer!
Posted by: Weasel at December 02, 2023 01:01 PM (RG6z4)
Hold my beer!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 02, 2023 01:09 PM (3Gtis)
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Is Vivek thinking of joining forces with RFK? He seems a bit of a loose cannon.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 01:04 PM (enJYY)
I view Vivek as being Trump's proxy on the debate stage.
Trump sits on the sideline, avoiding media attacks during debates, while Vivek savages the neo-con, GOPe consensus alternatives to Trump.
His Indian heritage makes him uniquely qualified to take the rhetorical ballbat to Haley without being called a racist.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 01:04 PM (enJYY)
I view Vivek as being Trump's proxy on the debate stage.
Trump sits on the sideline, avoiding media attacks during debates, while Vivek savages the neo-con, GOPe consensus alternatives to Trump.
His Indian heritage makes him uniquely qualified to take the rhetorical ballbat to Haley without being called a racist.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 01:09 PM (onFzJ)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:09 PM (NwuoC)
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 02, 2023 01:11 PM (s+cGt)
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If it's not China involved in U.S. business & educational matters, then it's often Quatar. And sometimes they intersect.
See US-Quatar Business Council & more
See US-Quatar Business Council & more
Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at December 02, 2023 01:11 PM (GshMh)
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Governor Mike DeWine (OH) has spent a huge amount of time and personal money working in support of a Catholic aid program in Haiti, over many years and along with his brother. I wonder if they believe they've accomplished anything.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2023 01:12 PM (2lcEN)
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We must stop this Volcano because it is causing.....
"GLOBAL WARMING" !!!!!!!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 02, 2023 01:11 PM (s+cGt)
Our virgin cupboard is bare.
"GLOBAL WARMING" !!!!!!!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at December 02, 2023 01:11 PM (s+cGt)
Our virgin cupboard is bare.
Posted by: Iceland at December 02, 2023 01:12 PM (NwuoC)
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Law enforcement in action!
Report: Babylon Bee actor detained at airport on J6 charges while flying home from Daily Wire movie premiere
https://tinyurl.com/4cywaft9
Report: Babylon Bee actor detained at airport on J6 charges while flying home from Daily Wire movie premiere
https://tinyurl.com/4cywaft9
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 01:12 PM (FVME7)
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I had a Doc visit at the VA about the first of November. Lab results were great for my age. He said whatever I'm doing, keep doing it and "I know you lie, all my patients your age lie" and went on to something taught in med school. And then he said keep up the good work.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2023 01:03 PM (0EOe9)
Bill I get the same reviews from my Doc, everything looks great. I hope you’re well, but basically they’re telling us to FOAD.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 02, 2023 01:03 PM (0EOe9)
Bill I get the same reviews from my Doc, everything looks great. I hope you’re well, but basically they’re telling us to FOAD.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 02, 2023 01:13 PM (N6UT3)
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Qatar not whatever. Sorry, once again.
Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at December 02, 2023 01:13 PM (GshMh)
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The question is moot. OKState has no defense.
28-7 Texas with 11:40 left in the 2nd.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:09 PM (NwuoC)
This puts the Crimson Tide in a bit of a pickle. Even in the unlikely event they beat Georgia later (a longshot) they’ll probably need FSU to lose to get in…. Because there’s no way in hades that Michigan is losing to Iowa…
28-7 Texas with 11:40 left in the 2nd.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:09 PM (NwuoC)
This puts the Crimson Tide in a bit of a pickle. Even in the unlikely event they beat Georgia later (a longshot) they’ll probably need FSU to lose to get in…. Because there’s no way in hades that Michigan is losing to Iowa…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:13 PM (xT8gx)
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That volcano looks like they call a'a in Hawaii. Chunky, crumbly, and slow. Like a gritty push being extrude from a cyst. Tends be relatively low temperature and lots of gas bubbles in it and low desity when it hardens. Lots of sharp edges like broken glass. Tears up your tires real good when you drive across it.
The other flavor of lava is lapoepoe, hot, fast, and fluid. Lava fountains are common with it. if you are a long ways from the fissure it can be fairly safe. Locals used to get close to the lava river and dip bamboo into it, cath a glob, and put it into molds to make ashtrays, tiki gds, etc.
Last significant eruption in Hawaii was that type. Some guy was sitting on his porch a few hindred yards from a fissure when it burped and a freakish stray lava bomb flew and smashed his leg. Shattered bone and 3rd degree burns.
The other flavor of lava is lapoepoe, hot, fast, and fluid. Lava fountains are common with it. if you are a long ways from the fissure it can be fairly safe. Locals used to get close to the lava river and dip bamboo into it, cath a glob, and put it into molds to make ashtrays, tiki gds, etc.
Last significant eruption in Hawaii was that type. Some guy was sitting on his porch a few hindred yards from a fissure when it burped and a freakish stray lava bomb flew and smashed his leg. Shattered bone and 3rd degree burns.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2023 01:14 PM (cOq4q)
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Hmmm.
If you make 80% of the people very poor, the only target left for the grifters is the 20% of first round grifters. These 20% are ignorant of history, impressed with their own status, and heading for a fall.
If you make 80% of the people very poor, the only target left for the grifters is the 20% of first round grifters. These 20% are ignorant of history, impressed with their own status, and heading for a fall.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:14 PM (u82oZ)
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263 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 01:12 PM (FVME7)
The FIB straight shooters boys.
The FIB straight shooters boys.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 01:14 PM (X0I7i)
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The Liberty was our key intercept platform, but we had others. US NSGA personnel were killed by the torpedo. My family lost friends there. My father was selected to reconstitute that monitoring facility, until a damage assessment said - no way.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:07 PM (u82oZ)
As you said, I believe the strike on the Liberty was an accident of war. But I also note that the Israelis would not have forgotten that the Americans took the Egyptian's side in the 1957 war. And that if they hadn't, the 1967 war would never have happened.
The main reason I think the US supported Israel in the 1973 war is that the Soviets by then were well on the way into making Eqypt and Syria Soviet satellite states, so the US had to oppose them. After they performed so badly, the Soviets began to lose interest. Not completely, but they put their efforts elsewhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:07 PM (u82oZ)
As you said, I believe the strike on the Liberty was an accident of war. But I also note that the Israelis would not have forgotten that the Americans took the Egyptian's side in the 1957 war. And that if they hadn't, the 1967 war would never have happened.
The main reason I think the US supported Israel in the 1973 war is that the Soviets by then were well on the way into making Eqypt and Syria Soviet satellite states, so the US had to oppose them. After they performed so badly, the Soviets began to lose interest. Not completely, but they put their efforts elsewhere.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 01:14 PM (S6gqv)
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"Loehoehoe" lava. Mangled the spelling on that.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2023 01:16 PM (cOq4q)
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This puts the Crimson Tide in a bit of a pickle. Even in the unlikely event they beat Georgia later (a longshot) they’ll probably need FSU to lose to get in…. Because there’s no way in hades that Michigan is losing to Iowa…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:13 PM (xT8gx)
I've made peace with not getting in. As hard as it is to believe at 11-1, this is what passes for a rebuilding year at Alabama. This team will be scary good next year.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:13 PM (xT8gx)
I've made peace with not getting in. As hard as it is to believe at 11-1, this is what passes for a rebuilding year at Alabama. This team will be scary good next year.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:16 PM (NwuoC)
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Went out yesterday with my daughter to run some errands and we saw a cute, very visible set-up for a local charity's annual toy drive. They were in the front parking lot of a prominent mall at one of our main street's business intersections. Sparkly lights, decorations, Santa's elves...all very high profile.
On the way home from the errands, we noticed a small pro-Palestine rally ( about 7 men and one woman wearing keffiyehs and holding the flag of Palestine. ) They positioned themselves up directly across from the big toy drive. Just as I was grumbling that 'they' are crapping on Christmas everywhere, my daughter pointed out that they probably picked that spot because the local news trucks were across the street swarming/filming the toy drive. We live here and didn't know that there would be news trucks at the toy drive. Somehow, the protesters not only knew, but got together to get some on-air time, for free.
On the way home from the errands, we noticed a small pro-Palestine rally ( about 7 men and one woman wearing keffiyehs and holding the flag of Palestine. ) They positioned themselves up directly across from the big toy drive. Just as I was grumbling that 'they' are crapping on Christmas everywhere, my daughter pointed out that they probably picked that spot because the local news trucks were across the street swarming/filming the toy drive. We live here and didn't know that there would be news trucks at the toy drive. Somehow, the protesters not only knew, but got together to get some on-air time, for free.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J Trump is our duly elected president at December 02, 2023 01:16 PM (l0Cy4)
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263 Law enforcement in action!
Report: Babylon Bee actor detained at airport on J6 charges while flying home from Daily Wire movie premiere
https://tinyurl.com/4cywaft9
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 01:12 PM (FVME7)
Holy Shit - the FBI is actually making political prisoners of Babylon Bee contributors. They don't even try to pretend they're any different from the KGB now.
Report: Babylon Bee actor detained at airport on J6 charges while flying home from Daily Wire movie premiere
https://tinyurl.com/4cywaft9
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 01:12 PM (FVME7)
Holy Shit - the FBI is actually making political prisoners of Babylon Bee contributors. They don't even try to pretend they're any different from the KGB now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 01:17 PM (S6gqv)
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2023 01:18 PM (cOq4q)
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So I gather no US servicemen died in defense of Israel, and the only one that comes up is an "adjacent" incident, that the internet algorithm is producing every time someone types "israel', "us servicemen", "killed".
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 01:18 PM (V13WU)
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Tom Servo
World-wide DEFCON 2 in 1973 under Nixon. The Yon Kippur War and Russia activating their then elite Paratroop divisions was the reason.
The Russians failed to reinforce Syria or Egypt as a result.
World-wide DEFCON 2 in 1973 under Nixon. The Yon Kippur War and Russia activating their then elite Paratroop divisions was the reason.
The Russians failed to reinforce Syria or Egypt as a result.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:19 PM (u82oZ)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 12:54 PM (S6gqv)
Detroit too.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 12:56 PM (R/m4+)
Denver enters the chat.
Detroit too.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 02, 2023 12:56 PM (R/m4+)
Denver enters the chat.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:19 PM (QBaJw)
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274 Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 01:17 PM (S6gqv)
The Federal Civil Service is a wholly owned subsidiary of Donk inc.
That is bad, what is worse it too many in the GOP say "eh who cares?"
The Federal Civil Service is a wholly owned subsidiary of Donk inc.
That is bad, what is worse it too many in the GOP say "eh who cares?"
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 01:19 PM (X0I7i)
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"Loehoehoe" lava. Mangled the spelling on that.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Jolly Green Giant lava?
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher
Jolly Green Giant lava?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 01:20 PM (FVME7)
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I've made peace with not getting in. As hard as it is to believe at 11-1, this is what passes for a rebuilding year at Alabama. This team will be scary good next year.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:16 PM (NwuoC)
From your fingers to the ears of the football deities: roll tide roll.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:16 PM (NwuoC)
From your fingers to the ears of the football deities: roll tide roll.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at December 02, 2023 01:20 PM (N6UT3)
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273 Somehow, the protesters not only knew, but got together to get some on-air time, for free.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J Trump is our duly elected president at December 02, 2023 01:16 PM (l0Cy4)
Of course they know, it's what professional agitators do.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J Trump is our duly elected president at December 02, 2023 01:16 PM (l0Cy4)
Of course they know, it's what professional agitators do.
Posted by: CppThis at December 02, 2023 01:21 PM (PZvjL)
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They are so brazen now, arresting political dissidents at will.
Turns out Siaka is on a "list." He entered the Capitol on January 6, 2021, but has not been charged with anything. His apartment was raided by over 20 armed FBI agents on June 10, 2021, and he's been under investigation ever since for "associating with members of a social media group."
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They are so brazen now, arresting political dissidents at will.
Turns out Siaka is on a "list." He entered the Capitol on January 6, 2021, but has not been charged with anything. His apartment was raided by over 20 armed FBI agents on June 10, 2021, and he's been under investigation ever since for "associating with members of a social media group."
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2023 01:21 PM (2lcEN)
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Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:07 PM (u82oZ)
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I'm gonna be an unreasonable person to discuss this with, mostly because I don't buy into "official positions".
We aren't officially conducting warfare with Russia right now either.
We merely provide, weapons, intel, training, funding, technology and contracted personnel.
And Russia isn't officially at war with Ukraine. They are conducting a Special Military Operation.
There are lots of "official positions". Few of them match up with what people see with their eyes and can reasonably assess. I'm not a lawyer trying to convince a jury, just an average Joe describing what I can reasonably ascertain through history and my own eyes.
These are only my conclusions. Yours may vary from mine. And you may say your's are more accurate because they include "official explanations", I will concede to you that you are accurately describing the official positions of the US military.
But I don't believe that the Pentagon just needed briefings like fans ringside at a boxing match. I believe the intel was likely being shared with Israeli defense, which in my view makes them party to the war.
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I'm gonna be an unreasonable person to discuss this with, mostly because I don't buy into "official positions".
We aren't officially conducting warfare with Russia right now either.
We merely provide, weapons, intel, training, funding, technology and contracted personnel.
And Russia isn't officially at war with Ukraine. They are conducting a Special Military Operation.
There are lots of "official positions". Few of them match up with what people see with their eyes and can reasonably assess. I'm not a lawyer trying to convince a jury, just an average Joe describing what I can reasonably ascertain through history and my own eyes.
These are only my conclusions. Yours may vary from mine. And you may say your's are more accurate because they include "official explanations", I will concede to you that you are accurately describing the official positions of the US military.
But I don't believe that the Pentagon just needed briefings like fans ringside at a boxing match. I believe the intel was likely being shared with Israeli defense, which in my view makes them party to the war.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 01:21 PM (onFzJ)
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Sven,
FBI are acting like goons. All to prop up the worst leadership of all times.
FBI are acting like goons. All to prop up the worst leadership of all times.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:21 PM (u82oZ)
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Should I provide a report on how many UK, and other friendly troops US killed during war ?
here are few more recent than Liberty :
26 February 1991: Six British soldiers of the 3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, and ten members of the attached Company of Queen's Own Highlanders were killed and further three injured after their Warrior armoured vehicles were hit by Maverick missiles fired by two U.S. A-10 ground attack aircraft.
4 April 1994: Two British officers were among the 26 Coalition personnel killed in the 1994 Black Hawk shootdown incident caused by two USAF F-15s.
here are few more recent than Liberty :
26 February 1991: Six British soldiers of the 3rd Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, and ten members of the attached Company of Queen's Own Highlanders were killed and further three injured after their Warrior armoured vehicles were hit by Maverick missiles fired by two U.S. A-10 ground attack aircraft.
4 April 1994: Two British officers were among the 26 Coalition personnel killed in the 1994 Black Hawk shootdown incident caused by two USAF F-15s.
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 01:21 PM (V13WU)
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The question is moot. OKState has no defense.
28-7 Texas with 11:40 left in the 2nd.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:09 PM (NwuoC)
So, far Texas looking good...uhhhhh, except for right now.
Anywho, they appear to be doing their part to get into the playoffs.
But, they still aren't totally masters of their own fate, To guarantee a playoff berth, Louisville has to beat the Seminoles, which seems pretty unlikely.
28-7 Texas with 11:40 left in the 2nd.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:09 PM (NwuoC)
So, far Texas looking good...uhhhhh, except for right now.
Anywho, they appear to be doing their part to get into the playoffs.
But, they still aren't totally masters of their own fate, To guarantee a playoff berth, Louisville has to beat the Seminoles, which seems pretty unlikely.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 02, 2023 01:22 PM (QzZeQ)
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>>> Holy Shit - the FBI is actually making political prisoners of Babylon Bee contributors. They don't even try to pretend they're any different from the KGB now.
Posted by: Tom Servo
The first, and lasting, impression I got from knowing that the FBI framed the President, specially Trump, is
If they will do this to the President they must have doing it to other Americans all this time.
Posted by: Tom Servo
The first, and lasting, impression I got from knowing that the FBI framed the President, specially Trump, is
If they will do this to the President they must have doing it to other Americans all this time.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2023 01:22 PM (cOq4q)
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Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:07 PM (u82oZ)
Cui Bono?
The idea that it was an intentional attack on an American Navy ship doesn't pass the logic test. It does however pass the Israeli "Our communications was awful and and it should never have happened" test.
Cui Bono?
The idea that it was an intentional attack on an American Navy ship doesn't pass the logic test. It does however pass the Israeli "Our communications was awful and and it should never have happened" test.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 02, 2023 01:22 PM (3Gtis)
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Just as you may believe the deployment of of two aircraft carrier strike groups to the region at this time are either on coincidental routine patrol or they are deployed there on standby as part of ongoing conflicts.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 01:00 PM (onFzJ)
My guess is, at least in part, one of the reasons we have our carriers there now is in hopes of someone bombing and sinking them.
Then the war machine will have its excuse to go all in.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 01:00 PM (onFzJ)
My guess is, at least in part, one of the reasons we have our carriers there now is in hopes of someone bombing and sinking them.
Then the war machine will have its excuse to go all in.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:23 PM (QBaJw)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 01:17 PM (S6gqv)
Arrested and in chains, for a misdemeanor?
Arrested and in chains, for a misdemeanor?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 02, 2023 01:23 PM (xaFKb)
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it is very sad when it happens, and I deplore when the sad case of USS Liberty is paraded as some kind of evidence of US troops dying in defense of Israel.
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 01:24 PM (V13WU)
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He appeared in court in shackles and leg irons and charged with 'parading' and 'trespassing'?
Who is running this show? Call him before Congress.
He appeared in court in shackles and leg irons and charged with 'parading' and 'trespassing'?
Who is running this show? Call him before Congress.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 01:24 PM (enJYY)
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My guess is, at least in part, one of the reasons we have our carriers there now is in hopes of someone bombing and sinking them.
The pessimist in me says we were hoping for wider conflict, including Iran.
The optimist says we have them there to deter wider conflict, including Iran.
The pessimist in me says we were hoping for wider conflict, including Iran.
The optimist says we have them there to deter wider conflict, including Iran.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 01:24 PM (onFzJ)
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Want Bama and Iowa to win. Then it all devolves into a sloppy shit show.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at December 02, 2023 01:24 PM (R4t5M)
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7. If called to jury, refuse to convict if you think the law unjust Remember that if the FBI is testifying, it's most likely a frame-up.
7. If called to jury, refuse to convict if you think the law unjust Remember that if the FBI is testifying, it's most likely a frame-up.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at December 02, 2023 01:25 PM (NwuoC)
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I've made peace with not getting in. As hard as it is to believe at 11-1, this is what passes for a rebuilding year at Alabama. This team will be scary good next year.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:16 PM (NwuoC)
I hope and expect Milroe stays. He’ll be out of this world good next year
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:16 PM (NwuoC)
I hope and expect Milroe stays. He’ll be out of this world good next year
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:25 PM (xT8gx)
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Bitter Clinger
Fair enough. I have had a close interest in that because of family connections, which gained me inside knowledge to a limited degree. Plus research.
I also think that starting with Clinton, and finishing with Obama, our governing and control mechanisms have been suborned. Certainly the military is very different today from then. When I heard about the CVBGs, I wondered if they would attack Israel.
Fair enough. I have had a close interest in that because of family connections, which gained me inside knowledge to a limited degree. Plus research.
I also think that starting with Clinton, and finishing with Obama, our governing and control mechanisms have been suborned. Certainly the military is very different today from then. When I heard about the CVBGs, I wondered if they would attack Israel.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:26 PM (u82oZ)
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IIRC the Russians have substantial military assets in Syria. The naval base at Tartus specifically. A CTG in the Eastern Med is as much a signal to Moscow as it is to Iran, Egypt, Jordan and Israel.
The other CTG is now in the Persian Gulf, or very nearby.
The other CTG is now in the Persian Gulf, or very nearby.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2023 01:27 PM (Q4IgG)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:27 PM (u82oZ)
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I hope and expect Milroe stays. He’ll be out of this world good next year
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:25 PM (xT8gx)
Milroe is actually a redshirt sophomore this year. He will be back.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:25 PM (xT8gx)
Milroe is actually a redshirt sophomore this year. He will be back.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:27 PM (NwuoC)
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Posted by: Tom Servo at December 02, 2023 01:17 PM (S6gqv)
Arrested and in chains, for a misdemeanor?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 02, 2023 01:23 PM (xaFKb)
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for "parading"
Arrested and in chains, for a misdemeanor?
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 02, 2023 01:23 PM (xaFKb)
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for "parading"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2023 01:27 PM (2lcEN)
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Back in the day, Japanese troops would go into battle with shashimonos, so they know who is who.
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 01:29 PM (V13WU)
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that was Feudal Japan
Posted by: runner at December 02, 2023 01:29 PM (V13WU)
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Hildabeast memes on internet is a crime was only a matter of time anyone writing memes against the Left was going to be a crime
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 01:30 PM (fwDg9)
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Our virgin cupboard is bare.
Posted by: Iceland at December 02, 2023 01:12 PM (NwuoC)
I've never been to Iceland, but that sounds like the ring of truth to me.
Lots of wool socks and bush hair, the gals are humping like bunnies from an early age.
Posted by: Iceland at December 02, 2023 01:12 PM (NwuoC)
I've never been to Iceland, but that sounds like the ring of truth to me.
Lots of wool socks and bush hair, the gals are humping like bunnies from an early age.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:30 PM (QBaJw)
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I still want Bama to stomp GA
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:31 PM (ixCnf)
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Israel's problems are solved!
Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
Kamala Harris word salad on hostages:
"I did speak with the Emir and the work and their commitment to this work is ongoing and our work is ongoing to support some ability to re-open the pause and to have a deal going forward where there will be a pause."
. . . .
As Israel defends itself, it matters how ... We believe Israel must do more to protect innocent civilians
. . . .
We have to revitalize the Palestinian Authority
. . . .
post-conflict Gaza [must include] no forceable displacement, no re-occupation, no siege or blockade, no reduction in territory, [based on] Palestinian voices and aspirations
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Yeah, uh, Palestinian aspirations is the problem.
Citizen Free Press
@CitizenFreePres
Kamala Harris word salad on hostages:
"I did speak with the Emir and the work and their commitment to this work is ongoing and our work is ongoing to support some ability to re-open the pause and to have a deal going forward where there will be a pause."
. . . .
As Israel defends itself, it matters how ... We believe Israel must do more to protect innocent civilians
. . . .
We have to revitalize the Palestinian Authority
. . . .
post-conflict Gaza [must include] no forceable displacement, no re-occupation, no siege or blockade, no reduction in territory, [based on] Palestinian voices and aspirations
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Yeah, uh, Palestinian aspirations is the problem.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at December 02, 2023 01:31 PM (FVME7)
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Because there’s no way in hades that Michigan is losing to Iowa…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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We can always hope. Because it's Michigan.
Because there’s no way in hades that Michigan is losing to Iowa…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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We can always hope. Because it's Michigan.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 02, 2023 01:32 PM (9mNHV)
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I still want Bama to stomp GA
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:31 PM (ixCnf)
Bama can win, but it is going to be exceedingly tough.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:31 PM (ixCnf)
Bama can win, but it is going to be exceedingly tough.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:32 PM (NwuoC)
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Re: FBI arrest of Babylon Bee actor
He was driven from LAX all the way to jail in Monterey Park? Why would they jail him at all, except to compound the pain they are forcing on him, but why go all the way to Monterey Park?
He was driven from LAX all the way to jail in Monterey Park? Why would they jail him at all, except to compound the pain they are forcing on him, but why go all the way to Monterey Park?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2023 01:32 PM (2lcEN)
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Martini Farmer
The book Alas, Babylon by Pat Frank, started ooff the nuclear war with a missile launched by a USN pilot missed the target aimed for, hitting a Soviet ammunition depot in Latakia, Syria.
The book Alas, Babylon by Pat Frank, started ooff the nuclear war with a missile launched by a USN pilot missed the target aimed for, hitting a Soviet ammunition depot in Latakia, Syria.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:32 PM (u82oZ)
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I also think that starting with Clinton, and finishing with Obama, our governing and control mechanisms have been suborned. Certainly the military is very different today from then. When I heard about the CVBGs, I wondered if they would attack Israel.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:26 PM (u82oZ)
I'm convinced the Deep State got rolling under the Elder Bush. He hated the Warrior Mentality of the Military, and used Tailhook to squash the military traditions, that perpetuated that mentality.
He also tried to institute 'Total Quality Management' in the military, even bringing in Civilian 'Facilitators' to try to tell us NCOs how to run stuff... and any resistance to said program, would kill your career.
He had been head of the CIA.... and liked the College edumacted society that they embraced... and so got the ball rolling where more and more, the Military was subordinated to Spooks. I watched it happen.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:26 PM (u82oZ)
I'm convinced the Deep State got rolling under the Elder Bush. He hated the Warrior Mentality of the Military, and used Tailhook to squash the military traditions, that perpetuated that mentality.
He also tried to institute 'Total Quality Management' in the military, even bringing in Civilian 'Facilitators' to try to tell us NCOs how to run stuff... and any resistance to said program, would kill your career.
He had been head of the CIA.... and liked the College edumacted society that they embraced... and so got the ball rolling where more and more, the Military was subordinated to Spooks. I watched it happen.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 02, 2023 01:32 PM (xaFKb)
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for "parading"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2023 01:27 PM (2lcEN)
_________
Is that worse than "prominading"?
for "parading"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2023 01:27 PM (2lcEN)
_________
Is that worse than "prominading"?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 02, 2023 01:33 PM (9mNHV)
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The pessimist in me says we were hoping for wider conflict, including Iran.
The optimist says we have them there to deter wider conflict, including Iran.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 01:24 PM (onFzJ)
The way I look at it, if the schoolyard bully is starting at you, pacing back and forth, pounding one fist into the other, and he's doing it from about 20 feet away, that's deterrence. He's saying "don't mess with me."
If he's nose to nose with you, he's basically goading you into hitting him, because he wants an excuse to hit you back. And at some point, you kinda reach the conclusion you gotta throw the punch. Regardless of what's coming back at you.
The optimist says we have them there to deter wider conflict, including Iran.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 02, 2023 01:24 PM (onFzJ)
The way I look at it, if the schoolyard bully is starting at you, pacing back and forth, pounding one fist into the other, and he's doing it from about 20 feet away, that's deterrence. He's saying "don't mess with me."
If he's nose to nose with you, he's basically goading you into hitting him, because he wants an excuse to hit you back. And at some point, you kinda reach the conclusion you gotta throw the punch. Regardless of what's coming back at you.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:34 PM (QBaJw)
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311 Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2023 01:32 PM (2lcEN)
The humiliation is the kink, he made the mistake of being a non democrat black man.
Had he had a molotov like a good rioter at a federal court house his mask would have made him invsible.
I have a loved one who got to be grilled by the FIB for 6 hours for correctly prediction the Rittenhouse outcome and pissing off an Antifa activist in uniform.
The humiliation is the kink, he made the mistake of being a non democrat black man.
Had he had a molotov like a good rioter at a federal court house his mask would have made him invsible.
I have a loved one who got to be grilled by the FIB for 6 hours for correctly prediction the Rittenhouse outcome and pissing off an Antifa activist in uniform.
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 01:34 PM (X0I7i)
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"Kamala Harris word salad on hostages"
Just imagine what happens if Joe croaks in a month or so.
This idiot blabbering this nonsense to everyone worldwide.
The world will burn.
Just imagine what happens if Joe croaks in a month or so.
This idiot blabbering this nonsense to everyone worldwide.
The world will burn.
Posted by: pawn at December 02, 2023 01:35 PM (QB+5g)
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Then the war machine will have its excuse to go all in.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02
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That's so nuts it may be true.
There are 6 Republicans in the House who actively want to go war with China. Right now.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02
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That's so nuts it may be true.
There are 6 Republicans in the House who actively want to go war with China. Right now.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 02, 2023 01:36 PM (uwNnT)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:36 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:37 PM (NwuoC)
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Qatar accurately identified the centers of power in America and made sure they'd have their own piece of them,
AtC quote about wanting in on the graft.
We need a PAC.
Call it Nobody cares what those Morons think especially
AtC quote about wanting in on the graft.
We need a PAC.
Call it Nobody cares what those Morons think especially
Posted by: DaveA at December 02, 2023 01:38 PM (FhXTo)
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the people they vote for.
Posted by: DaveA at December 02, 2023 01:38 PM (FhXTo)
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Just imagine what happens if Joe croaks in a month or so.
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I can't see it making much difference. The same people running Joe will run Kamala. They'll give her a credit card and tell her to go shopping.
Just imagine what happens if Joe croaks in a month or so.
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I can't see it making much difference. The same people running Joe will run Kamala. They'll give her a credit card and tell her to go shopping.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 02, 2023 01:39 PM (9mNHV)
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Bama can win, but it is going to be exceedingly tough.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:32 PM (NwuoC)
I remember 2 years ago Georgia was favored by pretty much everyone in this game and Alabama beat them pretty convincingly… something like 41-24 IIRC… then they turned around and lost to Georgia in the championship game a month later primarily IMHO because they lost their two best receivers to significant injuries while beating GA in the SEC championship
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:32 PM (NwuoC)
I remember 2 years ago Georgia was favored by pretty much everyone in this game and Alabama beat them pretty convincingly… something like 41-24 IIRC… then they turned around and lost to Georgia in the championship game a month later primarily IMHO because they lost their two best receivers to significant injuries while beating GA in the SEC championship
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:39 PM (ixCnf)
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Right now, presently, today, this very moment the US is still considered (for the short term, anyway) the top dog of the world's powerhouses. There's no way we can disconnect from the rest of the world.
We can be less involved in order to fix the exponentially expanding problems in this nation, but we'll never be able to isolate ourselves from the world.
We can be less involved in order to fix the exponentially expanding problems in this nation, but we'll never be able to isolate ourselves from the world.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 02, 2023 01:40 PM (BdMk6)
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The humiliation is the kink, he made the mistake of being a non democrat black man.
Hopefully, a lot of black men will find out about this case and reconsider a vote for the (D)'s.
'They gonna put you all back in chains!'
Look who put this guy in chains.
The humiliation is the kink, he made the mistake of being a non democrat black man.
Hopefully, a lot of black men will find out about this case and reconsider a vote for the (D)'s.
'They gonna put you all back in chains!'
Look who put this guy in chains.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 01:41 PM (enJYY)
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for "parading"
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2023 01:27 PM (2lcEN)
_________
Is that worse than "prominading"?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Archaic tern this "parading" is. I suspect that it was made to lobbiest from going about the building trying to influence the votes. I doubt they ever tried going with a marching band, elephants, etc. But I could see them getting twenty+ people in there carrying signs or wearing sandwich boards to push whatever they are lobbying for.
Not sure if they actually let 'lobbiests' hang out in the lobby or if they make them lurk outside now.
But citizens have usually / always been allowed to observe as long as they are not disruptive. There walking down the hallway is not in itself what I think "parading" is.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 02, 2023 01:27 PM (2lcEN)
_________
Is that worse than "prominading"?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Archaic tern this "parading" is. I suspect that it was made to lobbiest from going about the building trying to influence the votes. I doubt they ever tried going with a marching band, elephants, etc. But I could see them getting twenty+ people in there carrying signs or wearing sandwich boards to push whatever they are lobbying for.
Not sure if they actually let 'lobbiests' hang out in the lobby or if they make them lurk outside now.
But citizens have usually / always been allowed to observe as long as they are not disruptive. There walking down the hallway is not in itself what I think "parading" is.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2023 01:41 PM (cOq4q)
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The first, and lasting, impression I got from knowing that the FBI framed the President, specially Trump, is
If they will do this to the President they must have doing it to other Americans all this time.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2023 01:22 PM (cOq4q)
I know it's tempting to think this stuff has just started recently, but it hasn't.
The FBI didn't shoot and kill JFK, and I don't think they shot and killed RFK either. That was the CIA. But they helped immensely in covering up both.
Now, the FBI was probably more directly involved in the murders of MLK and Malcom the Tenth. I'm not sure, but they were there.
Start with the assumption they will kill people in top positions, then get down to looking at Randy Weaver, all the J6 people, the Frau Whitmer fraud, and on and on and on. We have a secret police force, and have for a long time. It does what it's told, and does it well.
If they will do this to the President they must have doing it to other Americans all this time.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at December 02, 2023 01:22 PM (cOq4q)
I know it's tempting to think this stuff has just started recently, but it hasn't.
The FBI didn't shoot and kill JFK, and I don't think they shot and killed RFK either. That was the CIA. But they helped immensely in covering up both.
Now, the FBI was probably more directly involved in the murders of MLK and Malcom the Tenth. I'm not sure, but they were there.
Start with the assumption they will kill people in top positions, then get down to looking at Randy Weaver, all the J6 people, the Frau Whitmer fraud, and on and on and on. We have a secret police force, and have for a long time. It does what it's told, and does it well.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:41 PM (QBaJw)
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GARDEN THREAD IS BLOOMING
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 01:42 PM (fwDg9)
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I said or wrote many times, if President Trump is vulnerable to the Deep State, anyone else is.
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 01:43 PM (fwDg9)
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"I can't see it making much difference. The same people running Joe will run Kamala."
I'm not talking about the US. I'm talking about everyone else somewhat invested in getting ahead by fucking over the way things were.
I'm not talking about the US. I'm talking about everyone else somewhat invested in getting ahead by fucking over the way things were.
Posted by: pawn at December 02, 2023 01:43 PM (QB+5g)
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We can be less involved in order to fix the exponentially expanding problems in this nation, but we'll never be able to isolate ourselves from the world.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 02, 2023 01:40 PM (BdMk6)
Until it all collapses.
Which it will. Soon.
So yeah, the "solution" will be thrust on us, because we're too stupid to consider trying to fix it before we get to that point.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 02, 2023 01:40 PM (BdMk6)
Until it all collapses.
Which it will. Soon.
So yeah, the "solution" will be thrust on us, because we're too stupid to consider trying to fix it before we get to that point.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:44 PM (QBaJw)
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Lots of wool socks and bush hair
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:30 PM
Why do you say that like it's a Bad Thing?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:30 PM
Why do you say that like it's a Bad Thing?
Posted by: Carpet Aficionados of AoSHQ at December 02, 2023 01:44 PM (a3Q+t)
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> Just imagine what happens if Joe croaks in a month or so.
____________
*biden's not much of a communicator either. His babblings are every bit as bad as Kamala's word salads.
Perhaps as prezzy she'd get better writers?
____________
*biden's not much of a communicator either. His babblings are every bit as bad as Kamala's word salads.
Perhaps as prezzy she'd get better writers?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 02, 2023 01:44 PM (Q4IgG)
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Probably get a huge portion of the National Debt too.
Posted by: Reforger
You'd be short by 2 orders of magnitude, at least.
Posted by: Reforger
You'd be short by 2 orders of magnitude, at least.
Posted by: DaveA at December 02, 2023 01:44 PM (FhXTo)
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Just imagine what happens if Joe croaks in a month or so.
____________
I can't see it making much difference. The same people running Joe will run Kamala. They'll give her a credit card and tell her to go shopping.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 02, 2023 01:39 PM (9mNHV)
Truth. No one in the WH is making policy or national decisions. Look to the Kalorama cartel, because that's who's running the country.
____________
I can't see it making much difference. The same people running Joe will run Kamala. They'll give her a credit card and tell her to go shopping.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 02, 2023 01:39 PM (9mNHV)
Truth. No one in the WH is making policy or national decisions. Look to the Kalorama cartel, because that's who's running the country.
Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at December 02, 2023 01:45 PM (BdMk6)
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The FBI didn't shoot and kill JFK, and I don't think they shot and killed RFK either. That was the CIA. But they helped immensely in covering up both.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:41 PM (QBaJw)
The Dulles brothers belong on a list of people most have never heard of who had incredibly destructive impacts on the country
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:41 PM (QBaJw)
The Dulles brothers belong on a list of people most have never heard of who had incredibly destructive impacts on the country
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:46 PM (ixCnf)
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...When I heard about the CVBGs, I wondered if they would attack Israel.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:26 PM (u82oZ)
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At least to keep them from going at Iran.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at December 02, 2023 01:26 PM (u82oZ)
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At least to keep them from going at Iran.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2023 01:46 PM (RIvkX)
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That's so nuts it may be true.
There are 6 Republicans in the House who actively want to go war with China. Right now.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 02, 2023 01:36 PM (uwNnT)
I saw Tucker's interview with Marjorie Taylor Green. Everyone else has concluded MGT is nuts.
Except, what if she isn't.
There are 6 Republicans in the House who actively want to go war with China. Right now.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 02, 2023 01:36 PM (uwNnT)
I saw Tucker's interview with Marjorie Taylor Green. Everyone else has concluded MGT is nuts.
Except, what if she isn't.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:46 PM (QBaJw)
340
Should have taken the over.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:37 PM
Always take the over on the Art Thread 100-comment rule.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 01:37 PM
Always take the over on the Art Thread 100-comment rule.
Posted by: Wesley Snipes at December 02, 2023 01:46 PM (a3Q+t)
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The Dulles brothers belong on a list of people most have never heard of who had incredibly destructive impacts on the country
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:46 PM (ixCnf)
I forget which country it was, but one of them had bought up all this land... maybe Guatemala? Then the newly elected government there (yes, they were socialists) decided it might be a good idea to make land grants to the people there, including land that wasn't being used for anything.
But it was owned by the Dulles brother. The other one, who was... what, head of the CIA at that time? Sec of State? I forget which, sorry, well he decided to execute a coup, not because the left leaning government did anything, other than cost his brother some money.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at December 02, 2023 01:46 PM (ixCnf)
I forget which country it was, but one of them had bought up all this land... maybe Guatemala? Then the newly elected government there (yes, they were socialists) decided it might be a good idea to make land grants to the people there, including land that wasn't being used for anything.
But it was owned by the Dulles brother. The other one, who was... what, head of the CIA at that time? Sec of State? I forget which, sorry, well he decided to execute a coup, not because the left leaning government did anything, other than cost his brother some money.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:50 PM (QBaJw)
Posted by: DaveA at December 02, 2023 01:53 PM (FhXTo)
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...If he's nose to nose with you, he's basically goading you into hitting him, because he wants an excuse to hit you back. And at some point, you kinda reach the conclusion you gotta throw the punch. Regardless of what's coming back at you.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:34 PM (QBaJw)
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Western democracies, being decrepit and moribund, always wait too late...
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 01:34 PM (QBaJw)
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Western democracies, being decrepit and moribund, always wait too late...
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2023 01:53 PM (RIvkX)
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I saw the MTG interview, call me nuts, I think she's totally rational.
Her reasoning on events surrounding the McCarthy thing and her support were also rational. I think he needed to go but I appreciate her perspective of the now and then.
Her reasoning on events surrounding the McCarthy thing and her support were also rational. I think he needed to go but I appreciate her perspective of the now and then.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 02, 2023 01:55 PM (uwNnT)
Posted by: DaveA at December 02, 2023 01:56 PM (FhXTo)
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326 Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 01:41 PM (enJYY)
I think the democrats generate votes in Presidential years that in an emergency are literally "in case of emergency break glass ballots"
It would not shock me in the least if there are hundreds of thousands of people on paper "who voted multiple times" who had not intention or knowing engagement in "multiple voting."
I think the democrats generate votes in Presidential years that in an emergency are literally "in case of emergency break glass ballots"
It would not shock me in the least if there are hundreds of thousands of people on paper "who voted multiple times" who had not intention or knowing engagement in "multiple voting."
Posted by: sven at December 02, 2023 01:57 PM (X0I7i)
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Western democracies, being decrepit and moribund, always wait too late...
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2023 01:53 PM (RIvkX)
Well, we're the bully though, the ones trying to get the other to give us an excuse.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2023 01:53 PM (RIvkX)
Well, we're the bully though, the ones trying to get the other to give us an excuse.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 02:00 PM (QBaJw)
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I saw the MTG interview, call me nuts, I think she's totally rational.
Her reasoning on events surrounding the McCarthy thing and her support were also rational. I think he needed to go but I appreciate her perspective of the now and then.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 02, 2023 01:55 PM (uwNnT)
Yeah, I know a lot of people here jumped on her for backing McCarthy, saying "see, she's a phony." She explained it. Made sense to me. I might not agree with her, but she's entitled to her opinion, and she sure as hell knows more about what's going on there than I do.
Her reasoning on events surrounding the McCarthy thing and her support were also rational. I think he needed to go but I appreciate her perspective of the now and then.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 02, 2023 01:55 PM (uwNnT)
Yeah, I know a lot of people here jumped on her for backing McCarthy, saying "see, she's a phony." She explained it. Made sense to me. I might not agree with her, but she's entitled to her opinion, and she sure as hell knows more about what's going on there than I do.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 02, 2023 02:02 PM (QBaJw)
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Kanela is tongue tied as a commenter aptly put it. But she is communicating to the base. She is putting the thought across.
Just eliminate the propriety of language and the message is there.
#308 >>>Here: We have to revitalize the Palestinian Authority
. . . .
post-conflict Gaza [must include] no forceable displacement, no re-occupation, no siege or blockade, no reduction in territory, [based on] Palestinian voices and aspirations
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...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
Just eliminate the propriety of language and the message is there.
#308 >>>Here: We have to revitalize the Palestinian Authority
. . . .
post-conflict Gaza [must include] no forceable displacement, no re-occupation, no siege or blockade, no reduction in territory, [based on] Palestinian voices and aspirations
-
...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks,
Posted by: Braenyard at December 02, 2023 02:03 PM (uwNnT)
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"Here: We have to revitalize the Palestinian Authority
. . . .
post-conflict Gaza [must include] no forceable displacement, no re-occupation, no siege or blockade, no reduction in territory, [based on] Palestinian voices and aspirations "
Their aspirations are to kill all the Jews, and wipe Israel from the face of the earth.
Could be problematic, at best.
. . . .
post-conflict Gaza [must include] no forceable displacement, no re-occupation, no siege or blockade, no reduction in territory, [based on] Palestinian voices and aspirations "
Their aspirations are to kill all the Jews, and wipe Israel from the face of the earth.
Could be problematic, at best.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 02, 2023 02:31 PM (hH3Px)
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Yeah, I know a lot of people here jumped on her for backing McCarthy, saying "see, she's a phony." She explained it. Made sense to me.
Bleh. No. She's not a "phony" as much as, at the end of the day, she's just dumb. As are plenty of others. And sometimes, even entertaining her bullshit is stupid.
The guy selling investments can make it make sense why you should buy an annuity, at less than inflation rates. It's a logical pitch, plenty of charts and graphs, he's wearing a suit, blah blah blah.
The proper play is "never listen to the guy telling you your money can make more money if you just let him hold it". The proper play is also "never trust the guy or gal telling you to trust them, because they're going to reform the political party that has fucked you for generations".
Hence, my lack of trust in MTG.
Bleh. No. She's not a "phony" as much as, at the end of the day, she's just dumb. As are plenty of others. And sometimes, even entertaining her bullshit is stupid.
The guy selling investments can make it make sense why you should buy an annuity, at less than inflation rates. It's a logical pitch, plenty of charts and graphs, he's wearing a suit, blah blah blah.
The proper play is "never listen to the guy telling you your money can make more money if you just let him hold it". The proper play is also "never trust the guy or gal telling you to trust them, because they're going to reform the political party that has fucked you for generations".
Hence, my lack of trust in MTG.
Posted by: How Things Work at December 02, 2023 03:06 PM (6/aEZ)
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Revitalize Palestinian would be similar to Revitalize Zombie in a apocalypse
Posted by: Skip at December 02, 2023 03:07 PM (fwDg9)
353
Can't deal with the slime mold upstairs. Gross.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 02, 2023 03:11 PM (RIvkX)
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Is Vivek thinking of joining forces with RFK? He seems a bit of a loose cannon.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 01:04 PM (enJYY)
vivek has a thing about property rights. That used to be a conservative value, back before the bad things happened.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 01:04 PM (enJYY)
vivek has a thing about property rights. That used to be a conservative value, back before the bad things happened.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 03:24 PM (D7oie)
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Check the basics. Hamas is not a state. Gangs are not states. Failed states don't care. Hezbollah is not a state. Somalia failed. Zimbabwe failed. Libya failed. Russia and China are ruled as Mao said, at the point of a gun. Islamic states, like the Mexican gangs propose, plata or plomo, silver or lead.
Posted by: Hokey Pokey at December 02, 2023 03:31 PM (as3uC)
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Yea, Alabama! Drown 'em Tide!
Every 'Bama man's behind you,
Hit your stride.
Go teach the Bulldogs to behave,
Send the Yellow Jackets to a watery grave.
And if a man starts to weaken,
That's a shame!
For Bama's pluck and grit have
Writ her name in Crimson flame.
Yea, Alabama! Drown 'em Tide!
Every 'Bama man's behind you,
Hit your stride.
Go teach the Bulldogs to behave,
Send the Yellow Jackets to a watery grave.
And if a man starts to weaken,
That's a shame!
For Bama's pluck and grit have
Writ her name in Crimson flame.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 03:43 PM (NwuoC)
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Fight on, fight on, fight on men!
Remember the Rose Bowl, we'll win then.
Go, roll to victory,
Hit your stride,
You're Dixie's football pride,
Crimson Tide, Roll Tide, Roll Tide!!
Fight on, fight on, fight on men!
Remember the Rose Bowl, we'll win then.
Go, roll to victory,
Hit your stride,
You're Dixie's football pride,
Crimson Tide, Roll Tide, Roll Tide!!
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 03:43 PM (NwuoC)
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He continues to caution Israel on the law of war
Since they're going above and beyond what's actually required by LOAC (Law Of Armed Conflict, not just war), Blinken is a liar or an idiot (or, likely, both) in lecturing them on anything.
By the actual Geneva Conventions (that have been signed by everyone, not just the handful of extra, stupid ones we haven't even made legal, yet), when Hamas, as the actual governing body of Gaza, attacked (act of war) and committed atrocities, every single fighter in uniform became subject to immediate execution upon capture as a war criminal. (Unless they could argue distinctions that could be checked. But Hamas isn't even organized sufficiently to provide that sort of data.)
When the civilians came in and ALSO participated in those atrocities, THEY became subject to the same sort of repercussions. Israel had a right to provide punitive, collective punishment against the "civilians" in Gaza. When they hide behind "civilians" and utilize "civilian" infrastructure as shields for military personnel, equipment, and operations, THERE ARE NO LONGER ANY "INNOCENTS" in Gaza for purposes of LOAC.
Period.
Since they're going above and beyond what's actually required by LOAC (Law Of Armed Conflict, not just war), Blinken is a liar or an idiot (or, likely, both) in lecturing them on anything.
By the actual Geneva Conventions (that have been signed by everyone, not just the handful of extra, stupid ones we haven't even made legal, yet), when Hamas, as the actual governing body of Gaza, attacked (act of war) and committed atrocities, every single fighter in uniform became subject to immediate execution upon capture as a war criminal. (Unless they could argue distinctions that could be checked. But Hamas isn't even organized sufficiently to provide that sort of data.)
When the civilians came in and ALSO participated in those atrocities, THEY became subject to the same sort of repercussions. Israel had a right to provide punitive, collective punishment against the "civilians" in Gaza. When they hide behind "civilians" and utilize "civilian" infrastructure as shields for military personnel, equipment, and operations, THERE ARE NO LONGER ANY "INNOCENTS" in Gaza for purposes of LOAC.
Period.
Posted by: GWB at December 02, 2023 03:58 PM (HMvgH)
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He continues to caution Israel on the law of war.
Yeah. And many still listen to Andrew Branca. I assume some would actually behave according to the "Rules of Self Defense" in the critical moment.
My point being ? When it's a real fight, there are no rules. It's a boxing match when rules are involved.
That's a critical difference. When you send troops over to kidnap those of mine you don't kill ? Fuck the rules of war. Israel is acting with entirely too much restraint. That's their problem.
Yeah. And many still listen to Andrew Branca. I assume some would actually behave according to the "Rules of Self Defense" in the critical moment.
My point being ? When it's a real fight, there are no rules. It's a boxing match when rules are involved.
That's a critical difference. When you send troops over to kidnap those of mine you don't kill ? Fuck the rules of war. Israel is acting with entirely too much restraint. That's their problem.
Posted by: How Things Work at December 02, 2023 04:03 PM (6/aEZ)
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Perhaps as prezzy she'd get better writers?
Posted by: Martini Farmer
There is no "better writing" to be had at the next level up -- remember these?
"Build Back Better"
and
"Middle out, bottom up"
Perhaps as prezzy she'd get better writers?
Posted by: Martini Farmer
There is no "better writing" to be had at the next level up -- remember these?
"Build Back Better"
and
"Middle out, bottom up"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 02, 2023 04:12 PM (xG4kz)
361
Damn you KT. That linked tweet on PNG is real missed opportunity for fisking. Now I have to do it.
OK, I just google the quoted text so I could copy and past, and it is from Wikipedia. No wonder it is such a mess. (Don't you hate when they quote stuff in jpg format without attribution?)
I will skip the fisking, but the point I was going to make is that it sounds a lot like what the progressives are trying to accomplish in the West - lots of abuse of boys by older men, lots of "sex work," and a weak military and police. Give them abortion and rid them of the belief that women are a "cosmic mistake" and it sounds like a good fusion of Lefty/islamic paradise, just what they are driving us toward.
Anyway, the solution? Colonialism.
OK, I just google the quoted text so I could copy and past, and it is from Wikipedia. No wonder it is such a mess. (Don't you hate when they quote stuff in jpg format without attribution?)
I will skip the fisking, but the point I was going to make is that it sounds a lot like what the progressives are trying to accomplish in the West - lots of abuse of boys by older men, lots of "sex work," and a weak military and police. Give them abortion and rid them of the belief that women are a "cosmic mistake" and it sounds like a good fusion of Lefty/islamic paradise, just what they are driving us toward.
Anyway, the solution? Colonialism.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 02, 2023 04:38 PM (de7jY)
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Oh, just into the ether.
I gave up on correcting wikipedia back when Bush fired the US AGs and I got into an editing battle with the Left, who insisted that this was somehow "unprecedented" and none of my cites were valid. You can not win against people with no integrity and lots of free time.
I gave up on reddit when they started shadow banning. Serious question to ponder -- why would anyone contribute to a site where they are potentially shadowbanned or suppressed? Is this a point the Right needs to stress to undermine the Lefty social media empire?
On reddit it is out of control and although I only ever contributed to technical subs and only when I was provably correct and helping out others, I often got shadowbanned because the mods are really horrible and have decided they know more than everyone about anything so they must prevent wrong speak.
I gave up on correcting wikipedia back when Bush fired the US AGs and I got into an editing battle with the Left, who insisted that this was somehow "unprecedented" and none of my cites were valid. You can not win against people with no integrity and lots of free time.
I gave up on reddit when they started shadow banning. Serious question to ponder -- why would anyone contribute to a site where they are potentially shadowbanned or suppressed? Is this a point the Right needs to stress to undermine the Lefty social media empire?
On reddit it is out of control and although I only ever contributed to technical subs and only when I was provably correct and helping out others, I often got shadowbanned because the mods are really horrible and have decided they know more than everyone about anything so they must prevent wrong speak.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 02, 2023 04:50 PM (de7jY)
363
Susan Sarandon apologizes for anti-Israel rant. (She was dropped by studio. Oh, well.)
Probably an opportunity taken by studio. Not a lot of demand for once hottie actresses who are now 75ish
Probably an opportunity taken by studio. Not a lot of demand for once hottie actresses who are now 75ish
Posted by: azjaeger at December 02, 2023 05:00 PM (Hic67)
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Is Vivek thinking of joining forces with RFK? He seems a bit of a loose cannon.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 01:04 PM (enJYY)
vivek has a thing about property rights. That used to be a conservative value, back before the bad things happened.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 03:24 PM
Just supposin' which is a kinda conservative thing to consider. Trump wanted to buy up a small piece of land in Atlantic City, could possibly have gone the eminent domain route, but ended up building all around her.
It's just a red herring to me. Someone comes out of nowhere with high intellect and latches on to a HUGE RFK Jr issue? Makes me nervous. Not that I think folks in the middle want their quality of life to return to 1923 level. But too many are too dumb to spend five minutes on Wiki learning about RFK Jr. It's all name recognition, too often.
I'm from Pennsylvania where the last name of 'Casey' ensures election. For Gawd only knows what reason - except name recognition.
Is Vivek thinking of joining forces with RFK? He seems a bit of a loose cannon.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 01:04 PM (enJYY)
vivek has a thing about property rights. That used to be a conservative value, back before the bad things happened.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 02, 2023 03:24 PM
Just supposin' which is a kinda conservative thing to consider. Trump wanted to buy up a small piece of land in Atlantic City, could possibly have gone the eminent domain route, but ended up building all around her.
It's just a red herring to me. Someone comes out of nowhere with high intellect and latches on to a HUGE RFK Jr issue? Makes me nervous. Not that I think folks in the middle want their quality of life to return to 1923 level. But too many are too dumb to spend five minutes on Wiki learning about RFK Jr. It's all name recognition, too often.
I'm from Pennsylvania where the last name of 'Casey' ensures election. For Gawd only knows what reason - except name recognition.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at December 02, 2023 05:29 PM (enJYY)
365
17-7 Alabama at the turn.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 02, 2023 05:31 PM (NwuoC)
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Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 02, 2023 04:38 PM
Interesting ideas. The quoted sections IS written in sociology-speak. It will be interesting to see if future revisions are mads.
Interesting ideas. The quoted sections IS written in sociology-speak. It will be interesting to see if future revisions are mads.
Posted by: KT at December 02, 2023 09:08 PM (rrtZS)
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