The IDF vs Hamas...Who are they? [Diogenes]

It is difficult to do a direct soldier-to-soldier comparison between the IDF and Hamas. We know a great deal about the Israel military, a truly professional force, but not a lot about Hamas, a not so professional force. In fact, it is difficult to call the Hamas fighters “soldiers” as that denotes a level of professionalism that they clearly lack. Further, the IDF is a defined military force that is an arm of a legitimate nation state. Gaza is not a nation state, although one could argue they were, on 10/6, a de facto state organization. Hamas is, at best, a type of militia with a set of strengths and weaknesses.

The IDF
The Israeli Defense Force (IDF) consists of an Army element, Air Force, and Navy with a special commando unit (Seals) called Shayetet-13. There is not a Marine Corps although one Brigade had been trained in amphibious techniques. The military is a curious mix of concepts and equipment, reflecting their historical roots from Great Britian and Europe, and of their primary suppliers, including the USA.

All branches of the IDF answer to a single General Staff. The Chief of the General Staff is the only serving officer having the rank of Lieutenant General (3 Stars). He reports directly to the Defense Minister and indirectly to the Prime Minister of Israel and the cabinet.

Beneath him are the Regional Commands: Northern, Central, Southern, and Home Front. Within these are the various members of the Services, delegated to the Ground Arms, Air and Space Arm, and the Sea Arm. Beneath these, and with the ability to task organize as needed for combat operations under the command of a Division and/or Corps, are the various Brigades. Within the US we recognize Divisions, the most famous being the 82nd Airborne and the 101st Air Assault, but the IDF is more like the Brits with strong attachment to a Brigade structure that frequently is drawn for a common geographical area.

The Infantry Corps is comprised of six active duty Brigades with a number of reserve Brigades available. The Armor corps has four Brigades and a likewise large number of Reserve Brigades to call upon. There is also the Artillery Corps with multiple regiments. All of these are supported by various Combat Support and Combat Service Support Brigades. There are currently (via unclassified sources) five Brigades active in the front line fighting in Gaza: The Golani, the Nahal, the Givati, the Kfir and the Paratrooper Brigade. As we know, thousands of Reserves have been called up and as they process through getting ready for deployment, we will see a greater number of units deploying to both augment and replace these frontline units.

The basic structure of the IDF is like that found in most Western Armies. It begins with the Fire Team, 4-5 soldiers that work along with a second fire team to form the Squad. There are four squads in a platoon, and typically four platoons in a Company. In the American Army, there are usually 4 or 5 companies in a Battalion and that is true for Israel too, however some units are specific Regiments that can consist of 5-6 Companies. The closest thing we might is in the US army are Cavalry units. 3 to 5 Battalions form a Brigade and most IDF soldiers will identify with their home Brigade. The Israelis are very adept and agile in their thinking and can adjust their order of battle to fit any given situation. Their soldiers are well educated, well trained, and very well equipped.

The Air and Space Corps consists of the Air Force as we generally understand it with fighters, bombers, transport, and close air support. Interestingly, the Air Defense Force is found here too. This is different from what the US does where the Air Defenders are part of the Army. Not a lot written about the Space Force, although the exo-atmosphere intercept of the missile fired by the Houthi’s gives us an indication this is a sophisticated and effective organization.

The Navy Corps is of course, the Israeli navy. They can put to sea with 15 warships and five submarines. They have additional patrol craft. Like the rest of the Israeli military, the Navy is a blend of both foreign purchase and domestically developed weapon systems, command and control, and fire control technologies. We see this with the acquisition of the Sa’ar 6 Corvette class ship. Built by the Germans, it is being equipped with about 80-90% Israeli domestically built systems focused on defense.

I won’t get into specific weapon systems and platforms. We are seeing a lot of them in the news and it is just a mouse click away for many who may be interested. One could spend all day writing about them, and many books are out there as well. Suffice to say the Israeli soldier is well equipped and is a formidable soldier on the battlefield. More importantly, the IDF can field a true combined arms force of Army, Air Force, Navy, and Space that can be crafted to fit any tactical situation.

Hamas
The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades are the military wing of the Palestinian organization Hamas, operating in the Gaza Strip. It is currently led by Mohammed Deif and its deputy, Marwan Issa. I wonder for how long?

The Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigades are interesting in that while subordinate to Hamas's political structure, they have a significant level of independence in decision making. In 1997, political scientists Ilana Kass and Bard O'Neill described Hamas' relationship with the Brigades as reminiscent of Sinn Féin's relationship to the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) and quoted a senior Hamas official: "The Izz al-Din al-Qassam Brigade is a separate armed military wing, which has its own leaders who do not take their orders [from Hamas] and do not tell us of their plans in advance." This mindset of separation continues to this day.

Recently the IDF published an intelligence summary about the Hamas military in Gaza. They put the strength of the Qassam Brigades there at the start of the war at 30,000 fighters, organized into five Brigades that were positioned by area. These brigades consisted of 24 battalions made up of approximately 140 company sized units. These in turn have several platoons. Each regional brigade had a number of strongholds and outposts, and included their version of combat support and combat service support forces. These fighters were equipped to use more specialized munitions such as rockets, anti-tank missiles, air defenses, snipers, and engineers.

Some Hamas fighters have uniforms, some do not. The more regular and well-equipped fighters have a full array of web gear and weapons. We have all seen the typical black hood and green headband. The typical Brigade will operate on a model that reflects the guerilla history of Hamas, and work in independent cells. Think of these cells as platoons within the company. Even high-ranking members are often unaware of the activities of other cells, a problem, as noted above, that continues up their chain of command. This is a clear problem with command and control, and something the IDF is probably having to deal with on the battlefield. The guys they are fighting in northern Gaza City may not be working with the guys they are fighting in the southern Gaza City. And neither may be paying much attention to what they are being told from southern Gaza.

The military capability of the Brigades has increased markedly since its establishment in 1987. Today we see a fairly standard array of small arms and automatic weapons at the fighter level, with augmentation that includes more sophisticated systems.

The Brigades have a substantial inventory of light automatic weapons and grenades, improvised rockets, mortars, bombs, suicide belts (gotta love those…I bet the training is lit!), and explosives. The group has engaged in military-style training, in Gaza and in other Middle Eastern countries. They train to engage both civilian and military targets.

The Brigades also have a variety of anti-tank guided missiles including the Kornet-E, Konkurs-M, Bulsae-2 (North Korean version of Fagot), 9K11 Malyutka and MILAN missiles, as well as shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles (MANPADS), such as the SA-7B, SA-18 Igla missiles, and it is believed a number of SA-24 Igla-S that it received from Libya. Although this sounds formidable, I have not seen a lot of troop level air defense employed by Hamas.

Hamas is a dangerous street level fighter. He owns the terrain and has had ample time to prepare. The tunnels have been particularly nasty ad caused the Israeli’s to create a unique engineering battalion to deal with them. He is generally educated and trained to fight his kind of street, hit-and-run battle. The typical Hamas fighter will engage and fight, but generally lacks the discipline of a professional soldier. He can converge at certain locations to affect their battle plan but will not sustain a specific operation for long. As pointed out, they have difficulty in Command and Control, especially across brigade lines. Their logistics have been good and they have fired an incredible number of rockets at Israel. And while this is remarkable, it also demonstrates a lack of fire control, limiting their use of mortars and artillery.

The Brigades run their own intelligence teams. This is likely heavily dependent on Human Intelligence augmented with extensive drone use for Imagery. I believe Hamas is capable of limited Signals Intelligence collection, but I suspect their architecture for collection, processing and reporting is marginal. I suspect the “strategic” intelligence for their Hamas leadership comes as much from outside sources (Iran, Syria and the usual suspects) as from their own internal networks.

The Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades operations to date reflect poor linkage to a strategic plan, poor preparation for a sustained fight, but reasonable execution of their street battles. They cannot win and can only hope that the West will apply pressure on Israel as they have in the past, to stop. I don’t see this happening. Hamas days are numbered.

["Diogenes" has multiple graduate degrees with a focus on the Middle East, and an Army Intelligence Officer graduate of both the Army and USMC Command and Staff Colleges.]

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Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 11:00 AM (CIS44)

2 The weekend is coming The weekend is coming

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2023 11:01 AM (kUPiv)

3 hath nooded ass well

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 11:01 AM (CIS44)

4 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

5 Now it sounds like Israel has made the mistake of agreeing to a cease fire.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 21, 2023 11:02 AM (GgkLi)

6 My only hope is the answer to the latter is that their pronouns are was/were.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at November 21, 2023 11:04 AM (JMAcK)

7 When you have your boot on the throat of an enemy sworn to kill you, it is insanely stupid to let the bastard up to stick a knife in your stupid belly.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 11:04 AM (pohLc)

8 I presume this level of detail is already known between the Israelis and Hamas?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at November 21, 2023 11:04 AM (/HDaX)

9 Thanks Mr. D !

Posted by: JT at November 21, 2023 11:05 AM (T4tVD)

10 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 21, 2023 11:05 AM (T4tVD)

11 Hamas assholes would either be militia or conscripts.

And NOT like the Conscript Fathers of Rome.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at November 21, 2023 11:05 AM (zZu0s)

12 Nice to see you doing a long post, Diogenes. That was interesting and helpful. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2023 11:05 AM (RSbhh)

13 There is also the Artillery Corps with multiple regiments.
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Do they call them that or use 'Battalions'? Or more like 'Field Art. Regt.', 'SPG Regt.' etc.?

[Interest not pedantry.]

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 11:06 AM (krqg6)

14 Thanks a lot for that very informative and detailed post, Diogenes. Excellent!

Posted by: IrishEi with yet another new laptop at November 21, 2023 11:07 AM (3ImbR)

15 I saw a typo of the Nahal Brigade as the 'Naval' Brigade after they captured the Gaza "Court House" and didn't know which was right!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 11:08 AM (krqg6)

16 I truly believe that Israel has to and will obliterate the force known as hamas. The Israeli public will accept no less. a 5 day ceasefire will not stall (other than extend for 5 days) the destruction of hamas. They've nowhere to go.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 21, 2023 11:08 AM (ZV+pB)

17 Willowed from the last, CBD was kind enough to put this on the sidebar for me. The Minneapolis police chief lied on the stand about the MRT (maximum restraint technique) It was in their department manual with pictures of cops in training doing exactly what Chauvin was doing. The judge would not allow that eveidence from the MPD manual! Chauvin and the other 3 officers got screwed by the mob and dem apparatchik. The documentary has footage I've never seen and is maddening.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:03 AM

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:08 AM (bqazj)

18 Personally I don't think the ceasefire is a good idea, but if they are going to do it I hope they get most of the hostages back, and also are on a hair trigger to re-engage if Hamas waffles on any of the terms.

Posted by: Ryan Frank at November 21, 2023 11:09 AM (fgmuN)

19 Hamas is the palestinian people and the palestinian people are Hamas.

Eliminate both.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 21, 2023 11:10 AM (R/m4+)

20 Interesting summary.

Posted by: mr tmz at November 21, 2023 11:10 AM (rJ48h)

21 My arm chair strategy would be to lure these animals out of their lairs with false intelligence about soft targets. They can’t resist .

Posted by: Drive by at November 21, 2023 11:10 AM (MNhXM)

22 truly believe that Israel has to and will obliterate the force known as hamas. The Israeli public will accept no less. a 5 day ceasefire will not stall (other than extend for 5 days) the destruction of hamas. They've nowhere to go.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 21, 2023 11:08 AM

This sounds harsh, but after seeing more and more of the footage of the atrocities carried out by hamass. I hope they kill every Palestinian. Period. These are not like the Germans or Japs that can be re-programmed. Killing them all is the best option.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:10 AM (bqazj)

23 There is also the Artillery Corps with multiple regiments.
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Do they call them that or use 'Battalions'? Or more like 'Field Art. Regt.', 'SPG Regt.' etc.?

[Interest not pedantry.]
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 11:06 AM (krqg6)
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When I worked with the Israeli Artillery folks (years ago) they were set up like the US, by Battalions although each had a Regimental affiliation. This was true both for the active duty and reserve units.
And they are damned good artillerymen.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:11 AM (uSHSS)

24 DIOGENES!!!!!!!

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 11:11 AM (V13WU)

25 (*get it ? Sponge ...first....)

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 11:12 AM (V13WU)

26 My arm chair strategy would be to lure these animals out of their lairs with false intelligence about soft targets. They can’t resist .
Posted by: Drive by

Misinformation campaigns can be useful.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 21, 2023 11:12 AM (1V0Rz)

27 Excellent post. It summarizes the situation well.

Posted by: fd at November 21, 2023 11:13 AM (vFG9F)

28 Netanyahu has hinted at possible good news vis-a-vis th hostages. That is all well and good and we pray for a good result.
but...
He made it very clear there are three goals:
1. The elimination of Hamas
2. The return of the hostages
3. That what happened never happens again

I believe him to be steadfast on these goals. And, in the world of war, the hostages take back seat to eliminating Hamas. This is harsh, but it is also necessary.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:14 AM (uSHSS)

29 RUNNER!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:15 AM (uSHSS)

30 Nice run down! Report from Israel last night stated that in Northern Gaza, Hamas is now disorganized and on the run, with hundreds of fighters surrendering to the IDF. The remaining leadership and true die hard fighters are retreating to the deepest tunnels.
An interesting/comical demand Hamas is making for a ceasefire - they want the IDF to stop using all drone surveillance. A clear sign they know they are trapped and desperate to get out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 11:15 AM (S6gqv)

31 I hope the Israeli use the short hiatus to track every single Hamas movement so they can detonate each and every member of Hamas immediately after the pause.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 21, 2023 11:15 AM (PB+4K)

32 Great post, Diogenes. Thanks!

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at November 21, 2023 11:16 AM (lg881)

33 An interesting/comical demand Hamas is making for a ceasefire - they want the IDF to stop using all drone surveillance. A clear sign they know they are trapped and desperate to get out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 11:15 AM (S6gqv)

A cease fire implies no shooting......everything else is still on the table.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:16 AM (Zz0t1)

34 As a military doofus I liked the post.

I have trust issues thanks to lying government dickwads.

Posted by: DOYLE at November 21, 2023 11:17 AM (Z8Yh2)

35 If they can get the hostages back I think a short temporary cease fire is a victory for Israel and won’t change much strategically in destroying Hamas. I don't see any real advantage for Hamas to do a short temporary cease fire and surprised they would agree. That’s why I’m skeptical. What’s not being revealed in this deal?

Posted by: Drive by at November 21, 2023 11:17 AM (MNhXM)

36 Hamas has MrFAFO. Israel is doomed!

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 11:17 AM (iFTx/)

37 Excellent post, Diogenes. Thank you for all the info, neatly presented. I hope you are right that Hamas will fall. The sooner the better.

Posted by: bluebell at November 21, 2023 11:17 AM (pTb/Z)

38 Thanks for doing these background reports, Diogenes. Well done.

👍

Posted by: Muldoon at November 21, 2023 11:18 AM (991eG)

39 Israel should not be taking any prisoners. They need to kill them all. What the fuck are they gonna do with prisoners? Rehabilitation? Shit. There ain't no fucking rehabilitation for those fucks. Kill them.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 11:18 AM (pohLc)

40 My only hope is the answer to the latter is that their pronouns are was/were.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian

* shakes head sadly *

Posted by: Formerly Virginian's Freshman English Teacher at November 21, 2023 11:19 AM (nfrXX)

41 What to do with prisoners is an interesting problem imo. I don't believe Israel will summarily execute them, but these are truly "recidivist" types. As things break down there will surely be a _lot_ of surrendering and so a lot of prisoners.

Posted by: Dr. Fausti - I AM The Science at November 21, 2023 11:19 AM (lg881)

42 Nice run down! Report from Israel last night stated that in Northern Gaza, Hamas is now disorganized and on the run, with hundreds of fighters surrendering to the IDF. The remaining leadership and true die hard fighters are retreating to the deepest tunnels.
An interesting/comical demand Hamas is making for a ceasefire - they want the IDF to stop using all drone surveillance. A clear sign they know they are trapped and desperate to get out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 11:15 AM (S6gqv)
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I'd mentioned in the previous write up that PoWs would be a concern at some point. If the IDF report of 30,000 fighters at the start of this, then I wonder what the numbers are surrendering? A related issue is, of course, the refugees. It seems they are letting those who can, go south, but those numbers have got to be big.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:20 AM (uSHSS)

43 Pfft.

Not one mention of the sharks with lasers and the weather control machine.

Fake news! Disinformation! MISINFORMATION!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:21 AM (Zz0t1)

44 Hamas is the palestinian people and the palestinian people are Hamas.
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Thanks for not capitalizing "palestinian." Palestinians are mostly Jordanians, and a few Egyptians. The powers that be are tripping all over themselves, and have been for some time, to make Palestine a legitimate country/nationality.
It's not a country, never was, and should never be.
Q: Why the f' would Israel carve out a country for a bunch of homeless terrorists?
Trump and co. were actually making progress with the Abraham Accords, and is (IMO) one of the reasons he is considered such a threat to the status quo. How many careers have been made, and how much ink has been spilled on the ME? It's in the globalist's interest to have this conflict continue.
It's a sick chapter in world history.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 21, 2023 11:22 AM (7Fj9P)

45 It becomes harder for Israel to resume fighting after the ceasefire. I think that's what this is all about: getting a "temporary" ceasefire and then trying to leverage that into a permanent one. Imagine the pressure that Israel will be put under to just continue the status quo (a ceasefire).

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 11:22 AM (iFTx/)

46 Wow, it's crazy windy here!

Posted by: lin-duh at November 21, 2023 11:23 AM (C39D0)

47 45 It becomes harder for Israel to resume fighting after the ceasefire. I think that's what this is all about: getting a "temporary" ceasefire and then trying to leverage that into a permanent one. Imagine the pressure that Israel will be put under to just continue the status quo (a ceasefire).
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 11:22 AM (iFTx/)

No shit.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 11:23 AM (pohLc)

48 Flood the tunnels with the Mediterranean. Problem solved.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2023 11:23 AM (J2vNu)

49 A modest, humanitarian proposal for Hamas prisoners. Anyone above the age of 21 is summarily tried in military court for crimes against humanity, with mandatory death penalty, carried out immediately after sentencing. Everyone else: 10 year minimum.

Posted by: Zek at November 21, 2023 11:23 AM (5FPX4)

50 Wow, it's crazy windy here!
Posted by: lin-duh at November 21, 2023 11:23 AM (C39D0)

Gusts of 20 to 30 mph here.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)

51 Hot news @TheNewsTrending 18h
The White House National Security Council spokesperson tore into anti-Israel activists accusing Israel of carrying out a genocide in Gaza.

"Israel is not trying to wipe the Palestinian people off the map. Israel is not trying to wipe Gaza off the map. Israel is trying to defend itself against a genocidal terrorist threat. So if we’re going to start using that word, fine. Let’s use it appropriately."

Hot news @TheNewsTrending 18h
The president of the ICRC, Mirjana Spoljaric, met with Hamas terrorist leader Ismael Haniyeh in Qatar today.

The ICRC has come under fire recently for not doing enough to gain access to the hostages abducted by Hamas on 7 October from Israel.

Aviva Klompas @AvivaKlompas 23h
A new photo has emerged that appears to show a terrorist dragging an abducted Israeli child to Shifa hospital on Oct 7.

Hen Mazzig @HenMazzig Nov 19
Every possible route Hamas terrorists could have taken the hostages into Gaza would have passed through at least 5 other hospitals before reaching Shifa Hospital.

They didn't take them there for "medical treatment"; they brought them specifically to Shifa because it's their headquarters.
https://tinyurl.co

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 11:24 AM (krqg6)

52 Even though Diogenes is a Moron, the piece is excellent.

I compared it to a recent Max Boot article and the contrast was stark. Diogenes clearly differentiates between what he knows and what he thinks, whereas Boot does not...instead trying to create an aura of omniscience.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2023 11:24 AM (3Gtis)

53 Trying to get the this excellent thread.
Only could bring up all battalions are not equal in personal

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2023 11:25 AM (kUPiv)

54 And they are damned good artillerymen.
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Thanks for the update.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 11:25 AM (krqg6)

55 information should be gleaned from these prisoners and then, after a very short perfunctory trial, they should be shot post haste

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 21, 2023 11:25 AM (ZV+pB)

56 52 Even though Diogenes is a Moron, the piece is excellent.

I compared it to a recent Max Boot article and the contrast was stark. Diogenes clearly differentiates between what he knows and what he thinks, whereas Boot does not...instead trying to create an aura of omniscience.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2023 11:24 AM (3Gtis)
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Well, Max does know an awful lot about rear-end gay sex. Just saying . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 11:25 AM (iFTx/)

57 I compared it to a recent Max Boot article and the contrast was stark. Diogenes clearly differentiates between what he knows and what he thinks, whereas Boot does not...instead trying to create an aura of omniscience.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2023 11:24 AM (3Gtis)

I compared my morning dump to a Max Boot article once. Once.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

58
It is a never-ending source of amazement the breadth and depth of expertise among this group of halfwits, illiterates, layabouts and general losers we call the Horde.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 21, 2023 11:26 AM (MoZTd)

59 I compared my morning dump to a Max Boot article once. Once.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:25 AM (Zz0t1)

The article was found to be wanting.

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 11:26 AM (CIS44)

60 It becomes harder for Israel to resume fighting after the ceasefire. I think that's what this is all about: getting a "temporary" ceasefire and then trying to leverage that into a permanent one. Imagine the pressure that Israel will be put under to just continue the status quo (a ceasefire).
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 11:22 AM (iFTx/)

You could very well be right about getting a temporary ceasefire in order to finesse a permanent one. I go back to Netanyahu's three goals mentioned above...The destruction of Hamas is the goal. if he settles for a permanent ceasefire, he is done. I believe Netanyahu will continue the fight until Hamas is history.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:26 AM (uSHSS)

61 Internal Senate memo highlights Biden admin efforts to tie highway funding to woke priorities

'Billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars meant for infrastructure projects are tied to woke initiatives,' Senate GOP memo states

Posted by: SMOD at November 21, 2023 11:26 AM (RHGPo)

62 Multiple issues with prisoners for Israel

1. As long as they have them, Pali's will try and capture civilians to trade for them
2. Having to pay to keep them
3. If one of the prisoners so much as sneezes we are back with the "International Community" bitching about treatment of prisoners

Publicly they probably can't get away with issuing orders to take no prisoners, but privately...

Posted by: Ryan Frank at November 21, 2023 11:27 AM (fgmuN)

63
They didn't take them there for "medical treatment"; they brought them specifically to Shifa because it's their headquarters.
https://tinyurl.co
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 11:24 AM (krqg6)

EVERY TIME this happens, it's discovered that Hamas and all the other pussy f*ck muslham terrorists use children, schools, hospitals and women as human shields, the rest of the world acts shocked and appalled they were actually DISCOVERED doing it and make every excuse in the book to appease it.

Who are the dumb ones......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)

64 Wow, it's crazy windy here!
Posted by: lin-duh at November 21, 2023 11:23 AM (C39D0)

Heh.
Just had a little wind myself.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:28 AM (uSHSS)

65 I'd mentioned in the previous write up that PoWs would be a concern at some point. If the IDF report of 30,000 fighters at the start of this, then I wonder what the numbers are surrendering? A related issue is, of course, the refugees. It seems they are letting those who can, go south, but those numbers have got to be big.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:20 A

Great post. As far as the refugees. None of the other Arab countries wants them. Mostly because they NEED a perennial "victim" and a perennial "bad guy" in Israel. As far as Ham ass killing their own. Oh well.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:28 AM (bqazj)

66
'Billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars meant for infrastructure projects are tied to woke initiatives,' Senate GOP memo states
Posted by: SMOD at November 21, 2023 11:26 AM (RHGPo)

Pete Buttplug is the transportation secretary. OF COURSE it's being squandered on woke bullshit.

He just gave a speech about how the EVIL RIGHT WING is destroying everything by threatening shutdowns and killing transportation as we know it.

We're f*cked because we don't have a media that will stand up and tell the truth about ANYTHING anymore.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

67 The destruction of Hamas is the goal. if he settles for a permanent ceasefire, he is done. I believe Netanyahu will continue the fight until Hamas is history.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:26 AM (uSHSS)

I think Netanyahu is done regardless, but he has a chance to redeem his legacy...at least partially...by conducting an aggressive war against Hamas (and then Hezbollah) without his typical weaselly half measures. There is intense pressure within Israel to win without any conditions, and he must honor that or he will be seen as a catastrophic failure.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2023 11:29 AM (3Gtis)

68 60 It becomes harder for Israel to resume fighting after the ceasefire. I think that's what this is all about: getting a "temporary" ceasefire and then trying to leverage that into a permanent one. Imagine the pressure that Israel will be put under to just continue the status quo (a ceasefire).
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 11:22 AM (iFTx/)

You could very well be right about getting a temporary ceasefire in order to finesse a permanent one. I go back to Netanyahu's three goals mentioned above...The destruction of Hamas is the goal. if he settles for a permanent ceasefire, he is done. I believe Netanyahu will continue the fight until Hamas is history.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:26 AM (uSHSS)
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I hope you are right. Bibi will want to. But there are internal factions in Israel itself that are trying to sabotage his efforts, if not outright support Hamas against their own country. Israel has the same internal-traitor problem that the USA has.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 11:29 AM (iFTx/)

69
Heh.
Just had a little wind myself.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:28 AM (uSHSS)

"Did I break wind?"

- - - Grandma in Christmas Vacation

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

70 information should be gleaned from these prisoners and then, after a very short perfunctory trial, they should be shot post haste
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 21, 2023

***
As the Germans most sensibly did with the mass murderer Peter Kurten, the Werewolf of Dusseldorf. They tried and convicted him, carefully psychoanalyzed him for future data about serial killers, then executed him.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2023 11:29 AM (J2vNu)

71

SEALs spend a lot of time in the water, have big flippers, and are into bars.

Seals spend a lot of time in the water, have big flippers, and are into clubs.

Posted by: Ped Xing at November 21, 2023 11:30 AM (HRQvT)

72 "Did I break wind?"

- - - Grandma in Christmas Vacation
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:29 AM (Zz0t1)

Jesus, did the room clear out, Bethany? Hell no, she means presents. You shouldn't have brought presents.
-Uncle Lewis

Posted by: BruceWayne at November 21, 2023 11:31 AM (CIS44)

73 It becomes harder for Israel to resume fighting after the ceasefire. I think that's what this is all about: getting a "temporary" ceasefire and then trying to leverage that into a permanent one. Imagine the pressure that Israel will be put under to just continue the status quo (a ceasefire).
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 21, 2023 11:22 AM

I was thinking about that. But if I am Netanyahu. I would think to myself, BFD. Who's going to do anything about it? The U.N? Oh noes!

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:31 AM (bqazj)

74 OT: I'm gonna eat lunch a little early. Then during my true lunch hour, I'll stroll to the library office where my former colleague works, visit with her, and pick up some books for the break at the same time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2023 11:31 AM (J2vNu)

75
17 Willowed from the last, CBD was kind enough to put this on the sidebar for me. The Minneapolis police chief lied on the stand about the MRT (maximum restraint technique) It was in their department manual with pictures of cops in training doing exactly what Chauvin was doing. The judge would not allow that eveidence from the MPD manual! Chauvin and the other 3 officers got screwed by the mob and dem apparatchik. The documentary has footage I've never seen and is maddening.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:03 AM

That's not good. And Chauvin did get screwed. On the other hand it would suggest there is a problem with their training methods. And Chauvin's gleefully kneeling on a suspect's neck while taunting onlookers did him no favors. He probably should've been off the force as he was a liability but he also didn't deserve the conviction since he didn't actually cause the guy's death.

Posted by: Is it possible to hate cops, criminals, and BLM all at once? at November 21, 2023 11:32 AM (8vw5b)

76 I really need to do some yardwork in prep for Thanksgiving, but if the wind keeps blowing like this all day, I'll wait.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:32 AM (Zz0t1)

77 Max has a cool hat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 21, 2023 11:32 AM (63Dwl)

78 A modest, humanitarian proposal for Hamas prisoners. Anyone above the age of 21 is summarily tried in military court for crimes against humanity, with mandatory death penalty, carried out immediately after sentencing. Everyone else: 10 year minimum.
Posted by: Zek at November 21, 2023 11:23 AM (5FPX4)

It will be interesting to see if there are trials reminiscent of Nurnberg at the end of all this. There needs to be executions.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:32 AM (uSHSS)

79 She wrapped her damn cat.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 21, 2023 11:32 AM (1V0Rz)

80 You could very well be right about getting a temporary ceasefire in order to finesse a permanent one.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:26 AM (uSHSS)

That is a concern, but the downside of the destruction of much of Hamas's communications systems is that there won't be a consistent application of the rules governing whatever ceasefire is agreed upon. And of course discipline in a guerilla army isn't perfect!

I'll bet Hamas violates it the first or second day.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2023 11:32 AM (3Gtis)

81 Another day another post on Israel. While the USA continues to be invaded by hordes of illegals, thanks to both parties, Democrats advance their takeover over the entire Justice system, I can find solace in an American blog obsessed with Israel's border and security. I can't imagine how the entire American legal and political system has been completely undermined by Dem & GOP progressives for the last 60 years. Keep up the good work conservatives!

Posted by: Liontooth at November 21, 2023 11:34 AM (qKzk4)

82 https://tinyurl.com/4cx5khcs

This lovely gal may not be in the IDF, but she's ready to crush Hamas in the morning and cook her man a delicious dinner by the end of the day.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 21, 2023 11:34 AM (JCZqz)

83
I think Netanyahu is done regardless, but he has a chance to redeem his legacy...at least partially...by conducting an aggressive war against Hamas (and then Hezbollah) without his typical weaselly half measures. There is intense pressure within Israel to win without any conditions, and he must honor that or he will be seen as a catastrophic failure.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2023 11:29 AM

I hope you're right. If they merely settle for half measures the cancer will be back. If there was ever an opportunity to rid themselves of these filthy vermin, it would be now.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:34 AM (bqazj)

84 Hot news @TheNewsTrending 20h
BREAKING: For the first time ever, Israel’s Iron Beam laser-based air defense system has reportedly been used successfully in the war field.

Israel War Room @IsraelWarRoom 21h
#BREAKING: Israel’s Iron Beam laser-based air defense system has reportedly been used successfully in the field.

Israel War Room @IsraelWarRoom 21h
Iron Beam changes everything about the asymmetric nature of the war.

Iron Dome interceptors cost 60,000 USD each. Hamas’s rockets cost a few hundred dollars.

Hamas was able to spend pennies to make Israel pay dollars. Not anymore.

Iron Beam costs ~$3 per use in electricity.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 11:35 AM (krqg6)

85 'Billions upon billions of taxpayer dollars meant for infrastructure projects are tied to woke initiatives,' Senate GOP memo states
____________

Ah, those halcyon days of "Infrastructure Uber Alles."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 21, 2023 11:35 AM (lf83v)

86 Israel has one substantial qualitative edge, not just against a terrorist rag-tag army, but very likely against more professional armies in the ME - superior technology. AI has been utilized quite a bit to take out terror nests, firing squads. I read how pleased IDF generals are with successful integration of AI in of all aspects of warfare.

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 11:35 AM (V13WU)

87 Posted by: Liontooth at November 21, 2023 11:34 AM (qKzk4)

Start your own blog if you don't like the way this one is managed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2023 11:35 AM (3Gtis)

88 Israel should be a concern for any who call themselves Christian.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 11:36 AM (pohLc)

89 Jew lasers...we were warned !

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 11:36 AM (V13WU)

90 Max has a cool hat.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 21, 2023

***
The sketch of Boot I've seen on his column makes him look like "Whistler," the demon in human form sent to even the score between good and evil, in the Season Two finale of Buffy. As Angel the reformed vampire told Whistler at the time, "I want to do what you do. But I don't want to dress like you."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2023 11:36 AM (J2vNu)

91 The actions of 10/6 were a declaration of war by Hamas, the elected government of Gaza. That means that Gaza declared war. Israel should settle for nothing less than an unconditional surrender by whatever is left of Hamas.

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 21, 2023 11:36 AM (xT7BI)

92
Posted by: Liontooth at November 21, 2023 11:34 AM

Oh, I see you can only care about one thing. Gee, maybe, just maybe you ought to read the countless other threads and sidebar discussing those same issues. Also, go fuck yourself troll.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:36 AM (bqazj)

93 I'll bet Hamas violates it the first or second day.
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...and blame it on Israel, which the int'l press will confirm, and howl from the mountain top.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 21, 2023 11:36 AM (7Fj9P)

94
Start your own blog if you don't like the way this one is managed.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2023 11:35 AM (3Gtis)

Ya beat me to it.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

95 ron Beam costs ~$3 per use in electricity.
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 11:35 AM

The lasers are literally green! Greta approved!

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:37 AM (bqazj)

96 There is intense pressure within Israel to win without any conditions, and he must honor that or he will be seen as a catastrophic failure.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2023 11:29 AM (3Gtis)

Concur.
As times goes buy and Israeli news seems to be dipping below the fold in Western media, this remains a total war for Israel. There can only be total victory.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:37 AM (uSHSS)

97 How much of Hamas armaments were funded by US taxpayers? That’s what I’d like to know. Also, how much came from Libya? People should go to prison for that, but the won’t because no one in DC is accountable for anything.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 21, 2023 11:38 AM (uKeRS)

98 I compared it to a recent Max Boot article and the contrast was stark.

It was the lack of a fedora worn at a jaunty angle that made all the difference, wasn't it? Maybe the Horde can get Diogenes one like they did for Perfessor Squirrel

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2023 11:38 AM (nfrXX)

99 Start your own blog if you don't like the way this one is managed.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2023 11:35 AM (3Gtis)

Ya beat me to it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:37 AM

You guys are nicer than I am.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:38 AM (bqazj)

100 Start your own blog if you don't like the way this one is managed.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 21, 2023 11:35 AM (3Gtis)

Ya beat me to it.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:37 AM (Zz0t1)

same, go start your own blog, loser

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 11:38 AM (V13WU)

101 ["Diogenes" has multiple graduate degrees with a focus on the Middle East, and an Army Intelligence Officer graduate of both the Army and USMC Command and Staff Colleges.]

Thus, once again, demonstrating why this is a Smart Military Blog.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 21, 2023 11:38 AM (Q0kLU)

102
They cannot win and can only hope that the West will apply pressure on Israel as they have in the past, to stop.

Regardless, it should be understood that guerrilla warfare alone will never lead to a victory. It's useful, but only as a delaying or harassing tactic. Guerrillas will only win if they have the capability to go over to conventional warfare and defeat their adversary on the battlefield, or if they delay long enough for the politicians to step in and surrender.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2023 11:38 AM (n+4am)

103 Back to the topic at hand I would like to see Hamas decisively crushed and all their shit razed to the ground. Ideally I'd like to see their heads on pikes alternated with pig carcasses, like kebabs, but that probably violates some faggoty-ass accord or convention or some shit.

Posted by: Crush them, drive them, hear lamentations at November 21, 2023 11:39 AM (8vw5b)

104 The Israeli Defense Force (IDF) consists of an Army element, Air Force, and Navy with a special commando unit (Seals) called Shayetet-13.

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So presumably that is the only IDF Special Forces unit? I wonder what size it is (can look up on my own) ...

Being such a heterogenous nation, am I correct in assuming that most communication is done in Hebrew ... or perhaps English?

Lastly, does Mossad have any battlefield role, perhaps in concert with Israeli Intelligence teams, or are they considered primarily a civilian force?

Thanks for the analysis, Diogenes!

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 21, 2023 11:39 AM (eACKZ)

105 +1
Good job, Diogenes

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at November 21, 2023 11:39 AM (xcxpd)

106 Posted by: Liontooth at November 21, 2023 11:34 AM (qKzk4)

There are quite a few stories about America in the Morning Thread. as well as in many other threads. Besides, a number of people here are either Jewish or are very interested in Israel, so why shouldn't there be a post about what's happening with the country?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2023 11:39 AM (RSbhh)

107 Legal Insurrection has a post up on the fighting.
https://is.gd/2M1tif

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 21, 2023 11:40 AM (PB+4K)

108 well we gave Hamas 45 billion in the last two years, so I would guess a great deal

Posted by: no 6 at November 21, 2023 11:40 AM (PXvVL)

109

Lionsweetypie, you promise to give the gerbil back!

Posted by: Don Lemonparty at November 21, 2023 11:40 AM (HRQvT)

110 'Iron Beam' lacks a certain something.

'Jewish Death Ray'?

'Yiddish Grandmother's Stare'?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:41 AM (zZu0s)

111 It is a never-ending source of amazement the breadth and depth of expertise among this group of halfwits, illiterates, layabouts and general losers we call the Horde.

You forgot "Methodists."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 21, 2023 11:42 AM (Q0kLU)

112 The MOSSAD is a very scary organization..

Posted by: runner watched Tehran Espionage Thriller at November 21, 2023 11:42 AM (V13WU)

113 Keep up the good work conservatives!
Posted by: Liontooth

Yup, this here blog never posts anything about the southern border. *eyeroll*

You may want to go find something more in line with your interests elsewhere on the intertoobs.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at November 21, 2023 11:42 AM (Vu7A1)

114 no, seriously , watch it

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 11:42 AM (V13WU)

115 To release anything less than all of the hostages is an admission that the hostage taking was a legitimate tactic.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 21, 2023 11:43 AM (MeG8a)

116 Guerrillas will only win if they have the capability to go over to conventional warfare and defeat their adversary on the battlefield, or if they delay long enough for the politicians to step in and surrender.

Ah, the Vietnam Gambit.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 21, 2023 11:43 AM (Q0kLU)

117 the nukbah, the naval commandos behave like Hamas, because they were imbedded in them for a time,

Posted by: no 6 at November 21, 2023 11:43 AM (PXvVL)

118 In the computer wargaming arena there's a lot of modeling going on with regards to the Israeli - Hamas conflict. Some have put Iran in play with conventional missiles like those they've provided to the Houthi's in Yemen.

On the Israeli side there's not a lot of modeling available for the ground operations, but the IAF has been fleshed out pretty well.

The Iron Beam weapon is modeled as are the Iron Dome anti-ballistic missile emplacements. The shear number of missiles, rockets and mortars Hamas has lobbed into Israel is staggering.

Things get murky with Iran in the mix. Same for the US. You can model some variation into whether one side or the other gets involved and to what degree, but it's messy.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2023 11:43 AM (Q4IgG)

119 And in other news, Ukraine is getting its ass kicked. Israel would do well to ignore anything the rest of the world says because most of the rest of the world is run by total f’kups.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 21, 2023 11:43 AM (uKeRS)

120 "It is a never-ending source of amazement the breadth and depth of expertise among this group of halfwits, illiterates, layabouts and general losers we call the Horde."

I think I prefer 'midwit' to 'halfwit'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:43 AM (zZu0s)

121 People who blame cops for their actions in apprehending thugs are the same people who blame Israel for their response to the Hamas attacks.

Posted by: Drive by at November 21, 2023 11:43 AM (wYBlF)

122 I've never understood why they have battalions AND regiments, since it is my understanding that they're similar in size. Anyone know the answer to this?

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 11:44 AM (I/Qkd)

123 You forgot "Methodists."

eww.

Posted by: The Lutherans at November 21, 2023 11:44 AM (Vu7A1)

124 I say reject the deal, cabinet. Grab Naniyah and other bastards and then negotiate some more...

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 11:45 AM (V13WU)

125 Posted by: Liontooth at November 21, 2023 11:34 AM (qKzk4)

Start your own blog if you don't like the way this one is managed.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

All USS Liberty and no jokes makes Liontooth a dull commenter.

Posted by: DaveA at November 21, 2023 11:45 AM (FhXTo)

126
It is a never-ending source of amazement the breadth and depth of expertise among this group of halfwits, illiterates, layabouts and general losers we call the Horde.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 21, 2023 11:26 AM (MoZTd)

Who you callin' "illiterate"??!!?!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2023 11:45 AM (n+4am)

127 Raze Gaza.

Israel should consider the entire land a write off, and so lease the territory out to U.S. Pig Farmers who are eager to explore new opportunities.

Yeah, Israel would never then build a Synagogue there. But neither, would the splodeydopes want to put up any mosques.

Leave some existing Minarets though, and instead of the "call to prayer", have a recording of a Blue Ribbon winning Hog Caller... "sssoooOOOOOeeeeeYYYYY!", followed by recordings of pens full of hogs going hog-wild at feeding time.

I call this imagined land: "Bacontopia".

TxMoMeet could send their Ambassador. (...lookin' at you, Bacon Wench!)

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 21, 2023 11:45 AM (e6UQI)

128 Wow! Look at the big brain on Diogenes!!!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2023 11:46 AM (JwHpX)

129 'Iron Beam' lacks a certain something.

'Jewish Death Ray'?

'Yiddish Grandmother's Stare'?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

Jawbone of an Ass.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 21, 2023 11:46 AM (FVME7)

130 Jawbone of an Ass.

"Sean Hannity" is already taken.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 21, 2023 11:47 AM (Q0kLU)

131 I'm not a slow wit. I'm not a fast wit. I'm more of a...

Posted by: Halfway there at November 21, 2023 11:47 AM (NBVIP)

132 Jawbone of an Ass.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 21, 2023 11:46 AM (FVME7)

That's a good one.

'The Apple'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:47 AM (zZu0s)

133
I call this imagined land: "Bacontopia".

TxMoMeet could send their Ambassador. (...lookin' at you, Bacon Wench!)

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 21, 2023 11:45 AM (e6UQI)j

I've mentioned trapping the Texas feral hog population and dumping them in the tunnels in Gaza.........

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:47 AM (Zz0t1)

134 129 'Iron Beam' lacks a certain something.

'Jewish Death Ray'?

'Yiddish Grandmother's Stare'?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

Jawbone of an Ass.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here

The end of Raiders.

Posted by: Movie Moron at November 21, 2023 11:48 AM (JCZqz)

135 The Iron Beam weapon is modeled as are the Iron Dome anti-ballistic missile emplacements. The shear number of missiles, rockets and mortars Hamas has lobbed into Israel is staggering.

Things get murky with Iran in the mix. Same for the US. You can model some variation into whether one side or the other gets involved and to what degree, but it's messy.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2023 11:43 AM (Q4IgG)

Good point about what Hamas was able to stockpile in munitions. I would love to know what intel the Israelis had collected over the last few years about this. It is really hard to keep a slid blackout on this kind of information. People talk.
Also, I wonder if any intel analysis had been done on the tunnels? Where did all that dirt go? Of course it begs the question...Where do you hide dirt in a desert environment next to a sea? But dang...it had to show up somewhere.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:48 AM (uSHSS)

136 The end of Raiders.
Posted by: Movie Moron at November 21, 2023 11:48 AM (JCZqz)

That is one of the best done scenes in cinema.

Starts slow, ends strong. Music exceptional.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:48 AM (zZu0s)

137 Guess I should get some work done.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)

138 Jawbone of an Ass.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 21, 2023 11:46 AM (FVME7)

That's a good one.

'The Apple'.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:47 AM

I like that!

Posted by: Ann Coulter at November 21, 2023 11:49 AM (bqazj)

139 All the wrong people hate Bibi (looking at you Tom Friedman) so I’d kinda wish he stays in office when the war is over. I find it particularly annoying when people blame Bibi for 10/7 because he’d been “fomenting divisions” with his “war on the judiciary”….. no doubt major strategic and especially intelligence failures. But it’s all Bibi’s fault??

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 21, 2023 11:49 AM (F2dmq)

140 'Don't Look at it Marion!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:49 AM (zZu0s)

141 "The IDF vs Hamas...Who are they? [Diogenes]"

Again, good job.

U.S. Army organization has gotten away from me a bit with the brigade combat teams, BCT, concept.

Posted by: javems at November 21, 2023 11:49 AM (8I4hW)

142 What if Hamas drove a truck bomb into the prisoner holding area? That would really suck huh?

Posted by: DOYLE at November 21, 2023 11:50 AM (Z8Yh2)

143 I'm Smart! Not Like Everybody Says, Like Dumb!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 21, 2023 11:50 AM (FVME7)

144 127 A recording of Arkansas Razorback stadium's crowd calling the Hogs.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 21, 2023 11:50 AM (0EOe9)

145
I'll bet Hamas violates it the first or second day.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

This. Thankfully Hamas as so well put by Diogenes has no real control over their fighters.
Israel should stand ready to resume pounding them as soon as *any* ceasefire violation occurs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 21, 2023 11:50 AM (PB+4K)

146 Wow! Look at the big brain on Diogenes!!!
Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2023 11:46 AM (JwHpX)

You clearly haven't spoken with Mrs D.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:50 AM (uSHSS)

147 Very interesting. Very informative.

Especially considering it isn't a Disney post.

Bwahahahaha!

But seriously, if someone thinks a post isn't of interest to them, why comment? Move on to something you are interested in? There is a whole wide world of content from which to choose. If one doesn't care to learn from the obvious expertise exhibited here, others who are more to one's taste exist.

No one is forced to be here.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 21, 2023 11:51 AM (7oKtF)

148 But it’s all Bibi’s fault??
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 21, 2023 11:49 AM (F2dmq)

Even if they had an inkling of what was going to happen, would they have known the scale, brutality and how widespread it was? You had assholes paragliding in to concerts, for fuck's sake. It was like a Bond movie (with more rape and less hygiene.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:51 AM (zZu0s)

149 The IDF should be known as IDGAF.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:51 AM (bqazj)

150 Hostage deal of any kind will impact Israel's deterrence posture which has already been damaged. Why ? WHY ??

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 11:52 AM (V13WU)

151 149 The IDF should be known as IDGAF.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:51 AM (bqazj)

FYDIAF?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:52 AM (zZu0s)

152 The IDF should be known as IDGAF.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:51 AM (bqazj)

FYDIAF?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:52 AM (zZu0s)

DILLIGAF.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)

153 49 The IDF should be known as IDGAF.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:51 AM (bqazj)

FYDIAF?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:52 AM

I'm slow so I am not sure what that means?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:53 AM (bqazj)

154 You clearly haven't spoken with Mrs D.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:50 AM (uSHSS)
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I have nightmares about our wives meeting!

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2023 11:53 AM (JwHpX)

155 No ceasefire with plo, or fatah , or any of these bandits ever held up.

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 11:54 AM (V13WU)

156 Chris Rose @ArchRose90 6h
Congratulations to @BBCNews for finally accurately reporting about Hamas’ tunnels & that Israel was right.

After a lot of complaints, worldwide criticism from politicians & satirists, our “beloved national treasure” has stopped sounding like a Hamas mouthpiece for a few mins 🎉

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 11:54 AM (krqg6)

157 DILLIGAF.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:53 AM (Zz0t1)

Nice.

FAFOYBS.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:54 AM (zZu0s)

158 In the computer wargaming arena there's a lot of modeling going on with regards to the Israeli - Hamas conflict. Some have put Iran in play with conventional missiles like those they've provided to the Houthi's in Yemen.

On the Israeli side there's not a lot of modeling available for the ground operations, but the IAF has been fleshed out pretty well.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2023 11:43 AM (Q4IgG)

MF,
A model I used extensively for a couple of years was the QJM model (Quantified Judgement Model designed by Dupuy). It is a fast turn, and slightly grainy model that is remarkable accurate. Using it, Hamas cannot win, but the kind of fighting going on, casualties will be significant.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 11:55 AM (uSHSS)

159 I'm slow so I am not sure what that means?
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:53 AM (bqazj)

Fuck
You
Die
In
A
Fire

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:55 AM (zZu0s)

160 ..and then the leaders feign ignorance of attacks and who planned them ....old story

Posted by: runner at November 21, 2023 11:55 AM (V13WU)

161 137 Guess I should get some work done.......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:49 AM (Zz0t1)
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The hell kinda message is that going to send to the rest of us?

Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2023 11:55 AM (JwHpX)

162 Posted by: Liontooth at November 21, 2023 11:34 AM

Your concern is:

[X] Noted

[ ] Other Than Noted

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 21, 2023 11:55 AM (aQy7p)

163 Guerrillas will only win if they have the capability to go over to conventional warfare and defeat their adversary on the battlefield, or if they delay long enough for the politicians to step in and surrender.

Ah, the Vietnam Gambit.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing (aka Eloquent Depression) at November 21, 2023 11:43 AM (Q0kLU)

Both the Frog war and our own VN intervention. Incidentally, also both the war on the ground and the political surrender.

I've always been annoyed at people who talk about the US losing VN to guerrillas. First, we didn't lose the war. It was a messy, and fragile victory, but winners don't get bombed back to the peace table like the North did. It's fair to observe that in fact we lost the peace. And we lost it not to guerrillas, but to the conventional NVN Army.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2023 11:55 AM (n+4am)

164 A Guide To Surviving Your Miserable Leftist Guests At Thanksgiving Dinner Or maybe just don't invite them... [CBD]

Eh, I'd invite but let them know that politics and stupid arguments are not part of the Thanksgiving celebration at our home.

And if they couldn't keep with the rules, they'd be invited to leave.

And then mocked a lot afterward. Probably I'd sent them a video of all of us enjoying our delicious feast, while mocking them.

Fortunately, we don't have that issue. Everyone wants good times, good food, and good conversation.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 21, 2023 11:55 AM (QzZeQ)

165 Did Joshua offer the Canaanites a ceasefire? He knew how to finish a conquest.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 11:56 AM (pohLc)

166 The weekend is here

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2023 11:56 AM (fwDg9)

167
Liontooth?

Liontoothache. Amirite?

Posted by: naturalfake at November 21, 2023 11:56 AM (QzZeQ)

168 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:55 AM

Ah got it. If I were the IDF IDGAF which pally dies. That's what I was going for.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:56 AM (bqazj)

169 David was not particularly known for his... respect for his enemies or their corpses.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:57 AM (zZu0s)

170 Ah got it. If I were the IDF IDGAF which pally dies. That's what I was going for.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 11:56 AM (bqazj)

Sponge and I are just riffing up possible nifty acronyms.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:57 AM (zZu0s)

171 Start your own blog if you don't like the way this one is managed.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Why? When I can read such 'inspiring' comments on a pro-life blog?
Hamas is the palestinian people and the palestinian people are Hamas.
Eliminate both.

This sounds harsh, but after seeing more and more of the footage of the atrocities carried out by hamass. I hope they kill every Palestinian. Period. These are not like the Germans or Japs that can be re-programmed. Killing them all is the best option.

Posted by: Liontooth at November 21, 2023 11:58 AM (Jma39)

172 And we lost it not to guerrillas, but to the conventional NVN Army.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 21, 2023 11:55 AM (n+4am)

From my understanding, The South Vietnam Army had the upper hand after we withdrew but that was soon reversed when the Democrats voted to cease funding/ supplying Soth Vietnam.

Posted by: Drive by at November 21, 2023 11:58 AM (MNhXM)

173 Why - because Israel is a society that truly does feel and care deeply for its people; and although I (and others ) have at times said "just consider the hostages dead already", it's different when you're talking about your parents, your daughters, and your little children. If we were in their shoes, and had a real chance to save our own children, what would we do? Can any of us say for sure?

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 11:58 AM (BqVVi)

174 Biden Birthday Cake.

https://tinyurl.com/vn25jpvb

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 21, 2023 11:59 AM (FVME7)

175 Ok. Insty has a gif of a woman in yoga pants rubbing the crack in her ass. It's for signs and symptoms of Hep C.

WTAF is going on around here?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 11:59 AM (zZu0s)

176 'Iron Beam' lacks a certain something.

'Jewish Death Ray'?

'Yiddish Grandmother's Stare'?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop

Jawbone of an Ass.

The Hasidic Hammer

Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023 11:59 AM (I/Qkd)

177
I think I've read that Gaza in land area is around the size of the city of Chicago. So my proposal, when the fighting is over, is that the Gaza area be patrolled by an international police force from the same countries that support Hamas in any way. I'm guessing 30,000 troops about. Break the area down into sections for the French, the British, the Italians, the Australians, the Americans. Rule with an iron fist.

Figure out some island in the Mediterranean where they can banish any miscreants forever.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 21, 2023 12:00 PM (enJYY)

178 Jawbone of an Ass.

The Hasidic Hammer
Posted by: Archimedes at November 21, 2023

***
Secret Agent Israel Bond, Agent Oy-Oy-Seven!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2023 12:00 PM (J2vNu)

179 Posted by: Liontooth at November 21, 2023 11:58 AM

Hey dipshit, you forgot to attribute the post to me.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 12:00 PM (bqazj)

180 Yael Bar tur @yaelbt 22h
Oz Davidian saved 120 people. 120.

This video is wilder than a Hollywood movie: A regular guy filling up his car with strangers, terrorists attacking him along the way, dead bodies strewn on the side of the road -- and he keeps going back to save more.
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Very Dunkirk-esque.

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 12:01 PM (krqg6)

181 https://tinyurl.com/4cx5khcs

This lovely gal may not be in the IDF, but she's ready to crush Hamas in the morning and cook her man a delicious dinner by the end of the day.

Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 21, 2023 11:34 AM (JCZqz)

There's a special place for people like you.

Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2023 12:01 PM (AwYPR)

182 Did Joshua offer the Canaanites a ceasefire? He knew how to finish a conquest.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 21, 2023 11:56 AM (pohLc)

There was that fellow who stole some booty at Jericho disobeying an order from God Almighty. The Israelites had a little setback at Ai after that until they dealt with that guy

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 21, 2023 12:01 PM (F2dmq)

183 Secret Agent Israel Bond, Agent Oy-Oy-Seven!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2023 12:00 PM

I LOL'd.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 21, 2023 12:01 PM (aQy7p)

184 It's cold and rainy here. In November.

Somebody should write a song about that.

Posted by: spindrift at November 21, 2023 12:01 PM (Zdu9h)

185 I've also become fascinated by the use of MWDs (Military Working Dogs) as trained for & used by U.S. soldiers in combat; I wouldn't want to go into certain battle situations without one as a handler -- although with the close bond developed, it would be painful to lose your personal MWD to injury or death.

Anyway, any idea if the IDF employs such assets in battle?

Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 21, 2023 12:02 PM (mi63s)

186 There are interviews becoming available from Israel; many Palestinians do NOT want Hamas. Hamas has maintained a reign of terror for the last 17 years, publicly gunning down anyone in Gaza who opposed them. That's one reason polls are suspect; the question is asked with a Hamas gunman standing behind the pollster.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 12:02 PM (BqVVi)

187 Diogenes I think you need a official Monkey Face

Posted by: Skip at November 21, 2023 12:02 PM (fwDg9)

188 Posted by: Admiral Ackbar at November 21, 2023 11:34 AM (JCZqz)

There's a special place for people like you.
Posted by: BignJames at November 21, 2023 12:01 PM

Bit of a giveaway right there.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 21, 2023 12:02 PM (aQy7p)

189 So the idf agrees to a five day cease fire and has to sit in the middle of Gaza with their thumbs upp their tuccas. Could hamas go five days without lobbing a rocket at them? And then the idf would have to sit there and take the shelling.

No way in hell hamas goes five days without trying to kill some idf and then runs back to the cease fire. It's what they do.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 21, 2023 12:02 PM (eggM4)

190 Did Joshua offer the Canaanites a ceasefire? He knew how to finish a conquest.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

God was angered when Saul didn't finish the job.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 21, 2023 12:02 PM (FVME7)

191 It's cold and rainy here. In November.

Somebody should write a song about that.

Posted by: spindrift at November 21, 2023 12:01 PM

*looks out window*

All the leaves are brown.

That's all I got.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 21, 2023 12:03 PM (aQy7p)

192 Ok. Insty has a gif of a woman in yoga pants rubbing the crack in her ass. It's for signs and symptoms of Hep C.

WTAF is going on around here?

There is a deliberate and ongoing effort to scare mainstream advertisers away from right-leaning blogs.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2023 12:04 PM (nfrXX)

193 184 It's cold and rainy here. In November.

Somebody should write a song about that.

Posted by: spindrift at November 21, 2023 12:01 PM (Zdu9h)

Now where did I leave that cake.....

Uh-Oh

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 21, 2023 12:04 PM (N3zMI)

194 As usual a damn good summary.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2023 12:05 PM (pVWRI)

195 One thing about the IDF and Israeli intel services is their ability to improvise and think out of the box. Look at the Israeli air marshals. Everybody fretting about shooting a hole in the skin of the aircraft, and they just settle on carrying Beretta model 70 .22s. Reliable little pistol, won't do much harm to the aircraft, and compels the shooter to go for an eye shot. No muss, no fuss, except for the El Al cleanup crews.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at November 21, 2023 12:05 PM (0EOe9)

196 sorry I meant islamic state,

its called a hudna,

Posted by: no 6 at November 21, 2023 12:05 PM (PXvVL)

197 Secret Agent Israel Bond, Agent Oy-Oy-Seven!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2023
*
I LOL'd.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 21, 2023

***
Much as I'd love to take credit for it, that's from a series of Bond parodies published in the mid-sixties by comedy writer Sol Weinstein: Loxfinger, Matzohball, and two more. I have the second and it's loads of fun.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2023 12:05 PM (J2vNu)

198 There is a deliberate and ongoing effort to scare mainstream advertisers away from right-leaning blogs.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2023 12:04 PM

Yea but is a woman in yoga pants rubbing her ass the best way to accomplish that?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 21, 2023 12:06 PM (bqazj)

199 Monkey Face???

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 12:06 PM (uSHSS)

200 192 Ok. Insty has a gif of a woman in yoga pants rubbing the crack in her ass. It's for signs and symptoms of Hep C.

WTAF is going on around here?

There is a deliberate and ongoing effort to scare mainstream advertisers away from right-leaning blogs.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2023 12:04 PM (nfrXX)

Don't get me started on all those videos with people scraping ticks off different body parts. Wtf is that shit. Gross

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 21, 2023 12:06 PM (eggM4)

201 There was a cease fire in affect on 10/6/23.

Israel will catch the same amount of criticism from the world whether they stop fighting or kill every last one of them

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 21, 2023 12:06 PM (qEcv1)

202 All the leaves are brown.

That's all I got.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 21, 2023 12:03 PM (aQy7p)

And the sky is gray (and the sky is gray) 🎶

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at November 21, 2023 12:06 PM (F2dmq)

203 yes a very good summary,

Posted by: no 6 at November 21, 2023 12:06 PM (PXvVL)

204 Excellent. Thank you!

Posted by: L - Can't make 'em love you more or hate you less at November 21, 2023 12:06 PM (GshMh)

205 I've also become fascinated by the use of MWDs (Military Working Dogs) as trained for & used by U.S. soldiers in combat; I wouldn't want to go into certain battle situations without one as a handler -- although with the close bond developed, it would be painful to lose your personal MWD to injury or death.

Anyway, any idea if the IDF employs such assets in battle?
Posted by: ShainS -- Too Male, Too Pale, Too Stale at November 21, 2023 12:02 PM (mi63s)

They do and,at least years ago, there was a deep connection with Israel and it's Military Dogs and the US Military's War Dogs.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 21, 2023 12:07 PM (pVWRI)

206 Posted by: Admiral Ackbar
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Bit of a giveaway right there.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState

It certainly saved me!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 21, 2023 12:07 PM (PB+4K)

207 There is a deliberate and ongoing effort to scare mainstream advertisers away from right-leaning blogs.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2023 12:04 PM (nfrXX)

I'd say our comments might be spirited, but I wouldn't call it 'deliberate.' Maybe 'ongoing.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:07 PM (zZu0s)

208 Intern Killer Joe: "[Trump] will imprison, he will execute whoever he's allowed to imprison, execute, drive from the country... just look at his past."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 21, 2023 12:08 PM (FVME7)

209 208 Intern Killer Joe: "[Trump] will imprison, he will execute whoever he's allowed to imprison, execute, drive from the country... just look at his past."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 21, 2023 12:08 PM (FVME7)

Projection, what is it again?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:09 PM (zZu0s)

210 208 Intern Killer Joe: "[Trump] will imprison, he will execute whoever he's allowed to imprison, execute, drive from the country... just look at his past."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 21, 2023 12:08 PM (FVME7)

I wish.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory, red heifer owner at November 21, 2023 12:09 PM (1V0Rz)

211 I saw an errant apostrophe in the blog post.

The possessive apostrophe-s ('s) was tagged onto Israeli when the plural-s should have been used.

Israelis. Not Israeli's. Also Houthis, not Houthi's

This is a high-level smart military blog, not a furniture-store sign shop.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 21, 2023 12:09 PM (4ZE6o)

212 U.S. Army organization has gotten away from me a bit with the brigade combat teams, BCT, concept.

Posted by: javems at November 21, 2023 11:49 AM (8I4hW)

Yeah...not a big fan of that myself. Regimental and BCT affiliations can work but not with the kind of personnel rotation we have in our Army.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 12:09 PM (uSHSS)

213 Also, would you say you executed that intern with your dick, Joe?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:09 PM (zZu0s)

214 Diogenes

Here a little pictorial thank you for you-a picture supposedly of a beautiful woman who was in the IDF. I don't provide "magic underwear" or "busty 'blossoming' lady leaning up a tree" but I think this woman is quite pretty-and yes, probably young enough to be your granddaughter,
and mine too.

https://tinyurl.com/58jpk26c

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2023 12:09 PM (RSbhh)

215 Did Joshua offer the Canaanites a ceasefire? He knew how to finish a conquest.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

***
I envision an epic Biblical film like Ben Hur or The Ten Commandments: Jericho Must Fall, starring Chris Pratt as General Joshua and Emma Stone as Rahab, the local prostitute who aids the Israelite forces.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at November 21, 2023 12:09 PM (J2vNu)

216 This is a high-level smart military blog, not a furniture-store sign shop.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 21, 2023 12:09 PM (4ZE6o)

Diogenes is just trying to earn that appellation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:10 PM (zZu0s)

217 "...a furniture-store sign shop."

Ouch. Ha

Posted by: DOYLE at November 21, 2023 12:11 PM (Z8Yh2)

218 Nood. ace.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:11 PM (zZu0s)

219 Yea but is a woman in yoga pants rubbing her ass the best way to accomplish that?

I've said before that I don't understand how some of those ads could possibly work (King Harv excepted, of course) but the people spending money on them must think they do.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 21, 2023 12:12 PM (nfrXX)

220 I'm more optimistic about Netanyahu hanging on than you are , CBD, but that depends on a very successful conclusion to this war. And there are still a million things that could go wrong.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 21, 2023 12:12 PM (BqVVi)

221
Some people's get on my nerve's.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 21, 2023 12:12 PM (enJYY)

222 Here a little pictorial thank you for you-a picture supposedly of a beautiful woman who was in the IDF. I don't provide "magic underwear" or "busty 'blossoming' lady leaning up a tree" but I think this woman is quite pretty-and yes, probably young enough to be your granddaughter,
and mine too.

https://tinyurl.com/58jpk26c

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2023 12:09 PM (RSbhh)

Thank you! I always enjoy the ladies you present here.
I haven't seen one yet I wouldn't have wanted to take home to meet mom.
:-)

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (uSHSS)

223 Ok. Insty has a gif of a woman in yoga pants rubbing the crack in her ass. It's for signs and symptoms of Hep C.

WTAF is going on around here?
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Trying to get Morons to turn off their ad-blockers!

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (krqg6)

224 Pete's butt buddy in trouble.

Hey, @PeteButtigieg…
Your good pal and mentee just received a 30-year prison sentence over a child p*rn case involving 500 victims.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter Here at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (FVME7)

225 > Intern Killer Joe: "[Trump] will imprison, he will execute whoever he's allowed to imprison, execute, drive from the country... just look at his past."
___________

Trump would be better off hiring some SOF operators to take care of this now, rather than wait.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (Q4IgG)

226 Kate Middleton flashing some leg

https://tinyurl.com/57e8p73v

Posted by: DB - at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (geLO8)

227 ----
The hell kinda message is that going to send to the rest of us?
Posted by: Weasel at November 21, 2023 11:55 AM (JwHpX)

Your point is valid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)

228 Did Joe whatsisname really say that

Posted by: DB - at November 21, 2023 12:14 PM (geLO8)

229 216 Diogenes is just trying to earn that appellation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at November 21, 2023 12:10 PM (zZu0s)

The question is if everyone else can shape up and keep up.

(I can't. I have zero military knowledge.)

Posted by: XTC at November 21, 2023 12:14 PM (7VV1E)

230 willowed again

Posted by: DB - at November 21, 2023 12:15 PM (geLO8)

231 osted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 12:13 PM (uSHSS)

Thanks. Don't take her home to meet mom. Mrs. D might like that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 21, 2023 12:15 PM (RSbhh)

232 Thanks for the analysis, Diogenes. Very interesting. One takeaway? Decapitating Hamas does not end the threat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2023 12:17 PM (a4qL7)

233 Thanks for reading everyone.
Today is Mrs D's birthday so I am off to do whatever she wants done...I suspect I'll begin with vacuuming.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 21, 2023 12:17 PM (uSHSS)

234 IDF in action #1:

Israel War Room @IsraelWarRoom 9h
#BREAKING: In an expansion of Israel's efforts against Hamas terrorists in Gaza, the 162nd Division, in collaboration with the air force, operated in preparing the battlefield in the area of Jabalia.

Attacks on Jabalia terror targets included support from fighter jets and UAVs. During the battle, forces struck three tunnel shafts in the area of Jabaliya, in which terrorists were hiding.

The 401st Brigade engaged terrorists in the northern Gaza Strip, during which they killed terrorists and directed aircraft to attack from the air. In addition, the forces located and destroyed rocket launchers.
https://tinyurl.com/yc538v6f
30 seconds; no sound; aerial footage

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 12:18 PM (krqg6)

235 IDF in action #2:

Israel War Room
@IsraelWarRoom
10h
Troops from the Nahal Brigade eliminated dozens of terrorists over the past few days with support of tanks and UAVs.

Additionally, combat squads of the 551st Brigade, in collaboration with special forces, operated north of Jabalia in order to eliminate terror targets in the area and clear a path for divisional forces and neutralized terrorist targets in the area.

During the operation, troops killed dozens of terrorists with air support, captured enemy weapons in various locations, including private houses and children’s bedrooms, and located and destroyed tunnel shafts.
https://tinyurl.com/yrvz2yzu
25 seconds; ground forces in action; LOUD ordnance; no gore

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 12:20 PM (krqg6)

236 A Guide To Surviving Your Miserable Leftist Guests At Thanksgiving Dinner Or maybe just don't invite them.

We all know relatives/friends/coworkers/cray cray neighbors who are democrats through and through. No sense of humor, do not care what you have to say, no matter the point you try to make you are a homophobic, rayciss, YT, gun loving nut who wants to convert everybody to Christianity and put all the colored races back in chains while denying wimmens the right to abortion on demand and you refuse to sip the penis.

Avoid democrats and live a happy life and enjoy your holidays.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 21, 2023 12:20 PM (R/m4+)

237 Break the area down into sections for the French, the British, the Italians, the Australians, the Americans. Rule with an iron fist.

Figure out some island in the Mediterranean where they can banish any miscreants forever.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at November 21, 2023 12:00 PM (enJYY)

Uh, if you leave out Australians, you have the exact thing we tried in Beirut in 1983. We had sectioned off the city into 'zones'... some zones quieter than others... but... end result was failure.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:21 PM (xaFKb)

238 236 A Guide To Surviving Your Miserable Leftist Guests At Thanksgiving Dinner Or maybe just don't invite them.

We all know relatives/friends/coworkers/cray cray neighbors who are democrats through and through. No sense of humor, do not care what you have to say, no matter the point you try to make you are a homophobic, rayciss,

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 21, 2023 12:20 PM (R/m4+)

My Liberal Brother invited me to his place in San Diego for Thanksgiving... uh... no... I'll stay here by meself and cook my own dinner, thankyou.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 21, 2023 12:23 PM (xaFKb)

239 Gusts of 20 to 30 mph here.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at November 21, 2023 11:23 AM (Zz0t1)

When I went to be last night, the Arctic air mass was in. 21 F, clear, and still. Overnight, the Chinook blew in again, and it is currently about 46 F, windy and cloudy. I'll take it!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2023 12:24 PM (a4qL7)

240 Keep up the good work conservatives!
Posted by: Liontooth at November 21, 2023 11:34 AM (qKzk4)

So how long have you been gay?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2023 12:29 PM (a4qL7)

241 156 Chris Rose @ArchRose90 6h
Congratulations to @BBCNews for finally accurately reporting about Hamas’ tunnels & that Israel was right.

After a lot of complaints, worldwide criticism from politicians & satirists, our “beloved national treasure” has stopped sounding like a Hamas mouthpiece for a few mins 🎉
Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at November 21, 2023 11:54 AM (krqg6)

; )

Posted by: m at November 21, 2023 01:36 PM (x5hic)

242 Another excellent post by Diogenes on the Gaza war. All I can say is: Well Done Sir, Well Done!

Posted by: Retired, thank God! at November 21, 2023 01:40 PM (7PBDP)

243 how long have you been gay?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 21, 2023 12:29 PM (a4qL7)

Justin fanboi say what?

Posted by: Liontooth at November 21, 2023 01:57 PM (449Xh)

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