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The Media's Eager Terrorist Lies That Set the Middle East on Fire and Got Synagogues Burned to the Ground

Drew Holden put together a tremendous thread yesterday documenting the propaganda media's many "errors" and lies and eager assistance of their terrorist extremist ally's disinformation campaign.

Today, he teams up with a Free Beacon reporter to write that thread up into a less twittery sort of thing.

Both are very much recommended. This post takes from both.

When a hospital in the Gaza Strip blew up on Tuesday night, U.S. and international news media uncritically reported Hamas terrorists' claims of an Israeli massacre. The White House and Israel have since refuted that account, citing imagery, intercepts, and open-source information.


Many of the same outlets have obsessed over the spread of "misinformation" in recent years yet created their own by parroting Hamas during a war the terror group savagely provoked with Israel.

The journalistic fiasco was an example of the media's tendency to adopt the Palestinians' narrative about the conflict with Israel, even when that narrative is unsupported by the facts. In this case, there were geopolitical consequences: U.S. Democratic lawmakers and Arab leaders condemned Israel for the bombing, Jordan canceled a planned summit with Biden, and riots broke out in the West Bank and elsewhere in the Muslim world.

Immediately after the hospital blast, which occurred around 7:30 p.m. local time, outlets reported that Israel had bombed the facility, killing hundreds of Palestinians. The reports generally referred to their source--the Hamas terrorist group that governs Gaza--as "Palestinian officials" or "health authorities."

That shows a clear intent to deceive -- they knew they were on shaky ground reporting the terrorist group Hamas' claims, and they knew that The Wrong People would Seize and Pounce upon this as a reason to disbelieve them, so they just lied about their sources, claiming they were disinterested, third-party "health authorities." Maybe from UNICEF or something.

Definitely see the article for all the propaganda outlets pushing actual terrorist propaganda.

This BBC propagandist was particularly Authoritative in offering his own Expert Testimony that this must have been Israel, because Hamas rockets just can't kill 500 people at a time like this one did.

Source for that "500 people killed"?

Third party "health authorities," of course. And by third-party Health Authorities, we mean "Hamas terrorist propaganda ministers."

We know that 500 people died because Hamas said so. We know Israel must be behind this because Hamas says so. Also, we know Israel is behind it because Hamas' rockets can't kill 500 people in one go, and we know 500 people died because Hamas says so.

You really have to absolutely hate Jews to be willing to pretend you don't see the circular logic here.

Journalists on X also promoted Hamas's version of events without proof. Then, as evidence began to emerge suggesting that Palestinian Islamic Jihad, a Hamas affiliate in Gaza, bombed the hospital, many of those journalists fought to prevent the media coverage from shifting.

The "journalists" trying the most to rescue Hamas' propaganda effort? One was the Washington Post's terrorist whore Karen Attiah, who recently retweeted a statement that the slaughter of innocents is "what decolonization looks like" -- what, you thought that this would all be singing and chanting? No, some babies are going to have to be riddled with bullets, Bae...


karenattiahdecolonization.jpg


Karen Attiah
@KarenAttiah

A basic critical, technical question of the hospital bombing: To ask whether a typical Hamas rocket is even capable of that much damage?

Fellow journalists, do your jobs.

LOL.

"Fellow journalists," LOL.

The other "journalist" aggressively trying to repair Hamas' damaged propaganda was the guy who engaged in aggressive War Crimes Denialism claiming that Hamas was just striking military targets and that we had no evidence, none at all, that babies were decapitated.

Like the last terrorist, this terrorist is not a "journalist," but a journalist-herder, using his Absolute Moral Authority as a Person of Virtuous Color to tell other "journalists" the proper propaganda line to repeat:

Adam Elmahrek
@adamelmahrek

Seeing lots of reporting saying "both sides" say the other caused the hospital bombing.

If you're not making it clear that Palestinian rockets haven't historically been able to kill more than one or two at a time, you're not doing this right https://twitter.com/adamelmahrek/s

This post is unavailable.

Even this terrorist cocksucker had to delete one of his own posts -- that must have been one honey of a tweet, if even he feels it's so egregiously false that he must hide the evidence. I mean, look at the tweets he keeps up!


Adam Elmahrek
@adamelmahrek

How U.S. media would cover the hospital bombing if they were treating it like a Hamas attack:

Israeli militants launched a deadly terrorist strike on a hospital in Gaza today, killing hundreds of innocent people, including the sick, elderly and children.

That is exactly what they did.

Someone asks him if he isn't violating his own "rule" -- after all, he rushed to claim this was a Jew Terror Bombing, and it turned out to be a rocket launched by Hamas terrorist ally the Palestinian Islamic Jihad.

He says no, no hypocrisy at all. And the US media has been "very cautious" in how they all immediately took Hamas' word about the Jew Terror Bombing.


Steven Greenhut
@StevenGreenhut

Doesn't your quick posting of this (note reports suggesting it might have been a Hamas misfire) along with your conclusions, you know, undermine everything you've been lecturing us about for days about verifying facts?


Adam Elmahrek
@adamelmahrek

Not at all. U.S. media has been very cautious in how they describe what happened at the hospital, and I haven't said they shouldn't be.

But that standard isn't applied the other way. That's my point

Another Twitter user confronted him with CNN's "very cautious" reporting repeating:

cnnhamas.jpg


I'm not going to call it "reporting" any more, I'm going to call it, more accurately, "repeating." And I won't call them "reporters," but repeaters.

So this terrorist is lying. 1, the media did eagerly repeat Hamas' propaganda lie, and 2, you were not just making a point about balance, you also were ranting about the evil perfidity of the Jew Terror Bombing Campaign.


He also retweeted this claim from "The Middle East Eye" that the Jews are lying about this being an errant rocket launched by the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, it's all those evil Jews!


Centrism Fan Acct
@Wilson__Valdez

Are you same 'journalist' who just went on a week-long tirade about verifying the facts (needing to see babies beheaded) before pushing inflammatory claims? Just checking, because that would be pretty crazy journalistic behavior if you were the same guy.

terroristsimpslap.jpg

Enough of this terrorist.

Washington Post reporter Evan Hill, Post columnist Karen Attiah, and Los Angeles Times reporter Adam Elmahrek last week nitpicked evidence that Hamas gunmen beheaded the Israeli babies they killed in the Oct. 7 terrorist attack that sparked the Gaza war.

The media gradually backtracked on blaming Israel for the hospital explosion--albeit without admitting they were wrong in the first place.

nytwalksback.jpg

This drives me insane. The media constantly accuses others of disinformation and presses to have them deplatformed and for advertisers to boycott them. When it's pointed out the media pushes much more disinformation than anyone else, they always say the same thing: "We get things wrong occasionally (LOL), but when we do, we own up to our mistakes and try to make things right."

BUT.

THEY.

NEVER.

ADMIT.

MISTAKES.

The most they do is stealth correct an article or delete a tweet. They never explain "We got this wrong, and here's why, and here's what we're doing to make sure we don't make the same mistake in the future."

They have refused to admit error on RussiaGate;

on the Laptop;

on the vaccines;

on the need for lockdowns;

on the need for masking;

on the threat posed to children by covid;

and on and on and on. And not a single longform article pouring through their old reporting explaining how they'd been misled by sources. (If they were "misled by sources" -- they're actually co-conspirators in these lies.)

The Washington Post and New York Times still cling to the Pulitzers they were awarded for their disgracefully dishonest Russiagate reporting repeating, insisting they got everything right!

Hey, when they reported repeated their political-operative sources' lies, they got that all right -- their political-operative sources really did tell those lies!

They successfully transcribed those lies and did no fact-checking at the time or retroactively! Pulitzer Me!

imajournalismeme.jpg

In fact, the New York Times "reported" that their gross deadly error wasn't their fault at all! The real villain here -- "fast-moving events."

Drew Holden
@DrewHolden360


If you're wondering what the @nytimes has taken from their & their press peers' failure, it's that they did nothing wrong & were the victims of circumstance: "The fast-moving events highlighted the difficulty of covering the war between Israel and Hamas."

Jordan Schaechtel had a great tweet, showing how CNN's coverage shifted slightly, but was still firm on the Propaganda Take-Away: No matter who bombed the hospital, Israel is to blame.

Here was their headline when they were pinning the "air strike" on Israel:

israeldidthebombcnn.jpg

Once they discovered their initial propaganda lie was unsustainable, they deleted it, without admitting error.

But they still blamed Israel for any deaths -- their blockade was slowing critical medical aid to the victims of the bombing (whoever did it).

israelbombcnn2.jpg

Your "disinformation" earns deplatforming, demonetization, and debanking.

Their disinformation earns Pulitzers.

Drew Holden wrote that he can't get these two screencaps out of his head:

sidebyside1.jpg

sidebyside2.jpg

If Trump isn't allowed on television because his Disinformation is "too dangerous" to transmit, what can we say about the media's Disinformation, which has the world's Jewry hiding in their basements awaiting the slaughter of the "Arab Street" that the media deliberately inflamed?


Related: Nate Silver says "Please have sympathy for the propaganda media!"


Nate Silver
@NateSilver538
·
Oct 18

As someone who frequently criticizes the media, I'd just say you should be approximately 10x more sympathetic to media fuck-ups on stories that are unfolding in real time (i.e. over minutes/hours versus days/weeks). It's literally 10x harder.

The media straight-up falsified the sourcing of this story by claiming it came from "health authorities," instead of the truth, which was "Hamas terrorist commanders."

No "fast-moving events" forced them to lie about who was telling this lie. That was their own choice, made with the intent of deceiving the reader.

He does grudgingly allow this:


Nate Silver
@NateSilver538

To be less sympathetic, media outlets need to be a lot better about admitting when they fucked up, though.

Yes, maybe the disinformation peddlers who say that they don't spread disinformation because they "always admit their errors" should try admitting their errors once in a while.

Posted by: Disinformation Expert Ace at 01:17 PM




Comments

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1 girthy

AND stricken....

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 19, 2023 01:17 PM (nXhwP)

2 i'll fetch the otters

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 19, 2023 01:17 PM (nXhwP)

3 corgis called

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 19, 2023 01:17 PM (nXhwP)

4 STRIKETHROUGH!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at October 19, 2023 01:18 PM (YwyqV)

5 Nice.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:18 PM (uvymP)

6 It was a video that caused it all!

Posted by: Hillary Clinton, It's my fucking turn, America! at October 19, 2023 01:18 PM (MiRvb)

7 To the barrel?

Posted by: DoublySymmetric at October 19, 2023 01:18 PM (YwyqV)

8 Striking prose today, Ace.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 01:19 PM (JrojV)

9 Well the knew this plan worked, like when they achieved their goal of getting Catholic churches in Canada burned down by spreading the lies about indian kids being buried there.

Likewise, there were all those churches that kept getting torched in France that are just a mystery.... considering how many members of a peaceful religion they imported....


Also who has the 0 panel for the "Number of days since Lamont came to work" sign?

Posted by: Rbastid at October 19, 2023 01:19 PM (BcMbj)

10 W I D E T R A C K

Posted by: Pontiac Builds Excitement at October 19, 2023 01:20 PM (Otxz7)

11 They definitely crossed a line

Posted by: The Unvaxxed and Unmasked Ranger - Blackpilled and Dreaming of Lauren Boebert's Sweater Puppies at October 19, 2023 01:20 PM (VTu1l)

12 Has Biden called for the release of American hostages yet?

No?

Huh. That's weird.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 01:20 PM (6Y/Rl)

13 What is happening? Has Paul gained control?

Posted by: L - Can never make 'em love you more or hate you less at October 19, 2023 01:21 PM (GshMh)

14 It worked, didnt it ?

Posted by: Harry Reid at October 19, 2023 01:21 PM (Vm5ir)

15 It was the Dukes... It was the Dukes....

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2023 01:21 PM (rc3Z7)

16 This post has been hit by an Israeli strike

Hundreds of words feared dead

Posted by: 2Dogs at October 19, 2023 01:21 PM (og5mY)

17 From JJ's links this morning:

https://is.gd/47UjmX

Globalists Fear Spartacus and His Slave Rebellion

Worth a read if you haven't. Tangentially related.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:22 PM (uvymP)

18 At least Biden has ordered flags to be flown at half-mast in recognition of the attack and the Americans killed, right?

I mean, he ordered them lowered for vague "people who died with COVID" deaths, so surely he's...

Oh, he hasn't?

Huh. That's weird.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 01:22 PM (6Y/Rl)

19 In which Lamont tries using sarcasm tags for the first time, and disaster ensues.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 19, 2023 01:22 PM (9UlRk)

20 Pravada looks on in shock and horror at the Western press and declares:

"HAVE YOU NO SHAME"...

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 19, 2023 01:22 PM (nXhwP)

21 foolishness abounds

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:22 PM (KRtlO)

22 Eye of Sauron > Eye of CBS

CBS Evening News
@CBSEveningNews
The humanitarian crisis in Gaza continues to grow following a hospital explosion that killed hundreds. CBS News spoke to a doctor who says Israel's army had previously warned the facility to evacuate.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 19, 2023 01:23 PM (FVME7)

23 There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur, or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: There is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to... The Outer Limits.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 19, 2023 01:23 PM (44ww/)

24

Pulitzer Prize = Pull-It, Surprise!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 01:23 PM (x0n13)

25 Many of the same outlets have obsessed over the spread of "misinformation" in recent years yet created their own by parroting Hamas during a war the terror group savagely provoked with Israel.
++++
Wrong premise entirely.

"Misinformation" == "anything the powers that be don't like, regardless of factual basis."
By definition, the opposite is also true:
"Information" == "anything the powers that be like, regardless of factual basis."

It wasn't misinformation, it was just "reporting." Misinformation is not what it used to be. It has a new meaning now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:23 PM (d04cU)

26 It was so much of a treasonous lie that even Brandon Shartpants said it was wrong. That's some deep evil hatred right there.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 19, 2023 01:24 PM (l10hq)

27 The Spectator Index
@spectatorindex
BREAKING: The number of people killed at Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital is between 10 and 50, the AFP reports, citing a senior European intelligence official.
Last edited
11:35 AM · Oct 19, 2023

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 19, 2023 01:24 PM (DJO/E)

28 The humanitarian crisis in Gaza is that it’s full of Gazans.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 01:24 PM (JrojV)

29 Yesterday I happened to click on a reddit thread about the story of the Israeli intelligence claim that the hospital was shot at by a Hamas rocket and not taken out by the Israelis.

Lots of people there expressing their dismay and disappointment about how reporters aren't doing any sort of diligence and how it's really hard to figure out what the truth is any more because all the major news outlets jumped on Hamas' story and covered it completely uncritically. This was on /r/worldnews, so it's not like it was on a sub with disproportionately conservative membership.

Seems like Media credibility has been a big loser in the Israel/Palestine conflict, regardless of the other effects.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at October 19, 2023 01:24 PM (fKIdX)

30 Source for that "500 people killed"?

Third party "health authorities," of course.

++++
From within Gaza.
Where Hamas is the government.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:24 PM (d04cU)

31 Fuck "admitting error".

This very clearly was not "error". It is never error. Rushing enemy propaganda to print without even performing step One of actual journalism is not an error. It's malice.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 19, 2023 01:25 PM (9UlRk)

32 I read all the content before I hit the comments button and, whoa Nelly, there is moar content.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at October 19, 2023 01:25 PM (CnLzB)

33 30 Source for that "500 people killed"?

Third party "health authorities," of course.
++++
From within Gaza.
Where Hamas is the government.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:24 PM (d04cU)


HMO = Hamas Meme Organization

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 01:25 PM (x0n13)

34 For crying out loud there are audio recordings of the Palis admitting it was one of their rockets...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 19, 2023 01:25 PM (MeG8a)

35 Admit your malice, fuckers. Then we can talk about error.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 19, 2023 01:25 PM (9UlRk)

36 The Spectator Index
@spectatorindex
BREAKING: The number of people killed at Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital is between 10 and 50, the AFP reports, citing a senior European intelligence official.
Last edited
11:35 AM · Oct 19, 2023

Posted by: jhawk90 at October 19, 2023 01:24 PM (DJO/E)

as with everything else the left lies about, the damage has been done and they goals are achieved.

NOW they can correct the record on page F17 in 3 point type...

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 19, 2023 01:25 PM (nXhwP)

37 >>>Seems like Media credibility has been a big loser in the Israel/Palestine conflict, regardless of the other effects.

it's a big loser whenever it "reports" news. It's literally always pushing lies. Always.

Adam Carolla, who is right-leaning but I would say a "normie" in that he's not as ideologically invested in this as the rest of us, totally gets it now, and just says straight up, do not believe the media, they do nothing but lie.

Covid was the Moment of Clarity for him. He has some righteous rants about that.

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:25 PM (KRtlO)

38 @KarenAttiah
A basic critical, technical question of the hospital bombing: To ask whether a typical Hamas rocket is even capable of that much damage?

Fellow journalists, do your jobs.

++++
How much damage, Karen? The amount that was reported by Hamas - that the hospital was destroyed and hundreds were dead - or the amount that turned out to apparently be correct - a blown-up parking lot and some broken windows?

This is a fairly important point to consider, Karen.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:26 PM (d04cU)

39 Worthless baccalaureate degrees for intellectual midgets:

1. Journalism/Communications

2. Psychology

3. Anything with "Studies" in the title.

Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2023 01:26 PM (gmo/4)

40 @adamelmahrek
Seeing lots of reporting saying "both sides" say the other caused the hospital bombing.

If you're not making it clear that Palestinian rockets haven't historically been able to kill more than one or two at a time, you're not doing this right

++++
So small-scale bombing in tremendously high volume is okay?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:26 PM (d04cU)

41 Breaking:

AP: Retired General, and munitions expert, Ecks Plodey Kabooms reminds us that, historically, Palestinian rockets have basically been equivalent to fireworks. Capable of making some thrilling sighting in the night sky -- whispers... and killing Joos -- but not really doing what we would call damage.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:27 PM (uvymP)

42 From within Gaza.
Where Hamas is the government.
--

That's been fascinating, too. The attempt at portraying Hamas as some small separatist group inside of the nation. The nation which, when polled in 2010 or so, showed that 60% supports suicide bombings

(The successful attempt, I might add.)

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 01:27 PM (6Y/Rl)

43 you know, i SURE hope that whoever leads us in the next war has read "the last centurion".

there's a good bit in there about how to battle the media and the lying liars therein, but it's one someone HAS to WANT to win...

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 19, 2023 01:27 PM (nXhwP)

44 >>The Media's Eager Terrorist Lies That Set the Middle East on Fire and Got Synagogues Burned to the Ground

But this isn't substantially different from what the media has done for the last 60 years.

Their basic frame work is that the Palis are oppressed and the Israel's are the oppressors, and by extension, the MSM is permitted to peddle any lie to advance their common cause.

What do they care if their lies get people killed, the MSM has been doing that since their has been a press.

I let this guy tell it...

'The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.'
--William T. Sherman

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2023 01:27 PM (rc3Z7)

45 ZeroHedge had some great stuff yesterday on the hospital.

The best was that the Islamic Jihad missile fell into a parking lot that couldn't possibly have held 500 people .. maybe 200 if you removed the cars.

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2023 01:27 PM (RHGPo)

46 Are people surprised?

How?

We've watched these people declare riots mostly peaceful protests basking in the glow of fires. These same people intentionally misreport every racial incident. They've been cheering genocide against whites quite openly for a while now.

What would it take to stop being surprised?

Posted by: This isn't exactly Pearl Harbor. at October 19, 2023 01:27 PM (6z4VY)

47 "Oops, we forgot to pull your car into the garage or even open the fucking hood so now it still goes klunk klunk klunk oh well we regret the error and no you can't have your $2,300 back".

Get fucked.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 19, 2023 01:28 PM (9UlRk)

48 @adamelmahrek
Not at all. U.S. media has been very cautious in how they describe what happened at the hospital, and I haven't said they shouldn't be.

But that standard isn't applied the other way. That's my point

++++
He knows the score and his job quite well.

"You caught be in a propaganda lie, so I will now utter another one by way of explanation."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:28 PM (d04cU)

49 News is what your editor says it is unless the owner tells him otherwise. Addendum - unless the Company tells the owner otherwise. Remember to goosestep in unison.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:28 PM (XetL6)

50 BREAKING: The number of people killed at Al-Ahli Baptist Hospital is between 10 and 50, the AFP reports, citing a senior European intelligence official.

--

Wow, that's almost half of Maui.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 01:28 PM (6Y/Rl)

51 37 >>>Seems like Media credibility has been a big loser in the Israel/Palestine conflict, regardless of the other effects.

it's a big loser whenever it "reports" news. It's literally always pushing lies. Always.

Adam Carolla, who is right-leaning but I would say a "normie" in that he's not as ideologically invested in this as the rest of us, totally gets it now, and just says straight up, do not believe the media, they do nothing but lie.

Covid was the Moment of Clarity for him. He has some righteous rants about that.

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:25 PM (KRtlO)

This is why I get all my information from a professional Disinformation Expert. (Ok I lied I get it from the comments, but don't tell ace that)

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 19, 2023 01:28 PM (eYoxG)

52 @adamelmahrek
Seeing lots of reporting saying "both sides" say the other caused the hospital bombing.

If you're not making it clear that Palestinian rockets haven't historically been able to kill more than one or two at a time, you're not doing this right
++++
So small-scale bombing in tremendously high volume is okay?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:26 PM (d04cU)

#bring back carpet bombing...

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 19, 2023 01:29 PM (nXhwP)

53 Not one successful live shot again. I'd suggest carrying an apple if out in public...when interviewed break it out and eat it.

Posted by: DOYLE at October 19, 2023 01:29 PM (Z8Yh2)

54 Where is Lamont??

Posted by: jmel at October 19, 2023 01:29 PM (RWHIh)

55 So this terrorist is lying. 1, the media did eagerly repeat Hamas' propaganda lie, and 2, you were not just making a point about balance, you also were ranting about the evil perfidity of the Jew Terror Bombing Campaign[
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That *is* balanced by the standards of modern journalism, Ace.

After all, if reality has a left-wing bias then so must reporting. This has been the rule for a little while now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:29 PM (d04cU)

56 Jeffrey Dahmer wasn't historically able to kill more than one or two at a time.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 19, 2023 01:29 PM (9UlRk)

57 I don't imagine it's good for my health to be reading about MSM criminality.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:29 PM (yetOu)

58 30 Source for that "500 people killed"?

Third party "health authorities," of course.
++++
From within Gaza.
Where Hamas is the government.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:24 PM (d04cU)

Guy had a Green Helmet on, so it MUST BE TRUE!!!!

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2023 01:29 PM (QPmu4)

59 Re: "You really have to absolutely hate Jews to be willing to pretend you don't see the circular logic here."

That may be true, if it is in fact pretense. However, LibTards, Dims, and Leftists generally are not prone to analytical or intellectually honest thinking, which is why they are able to be so functionally stupid. For them, the feelz suffice; consistency of thinking, avoidance of fallacy, and skepticism of fact sources who provide the "good" feelz are not operative.

Posted by: Larry Brasfield at October 19, 2023 01:29 PM (W+Po8)

60 What would it take to stop being surprised?
----------------
Rivers of Blood in Medialand.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:29 PM (XetL6)

61 i linked Adam Carolla talking about this in the sidebar, if you're interested.

i really dig him.

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:30 PM (KRtlO)

62 Enough of this terrorist.
++++
Most important line of this very girthy post.

Call these people what they are: propagandists and terrorists. The press are openly affiliated with terrorist groups and rogue states. This makes them terrorists by extension.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:30 PM (d04cU)

63 Charlie Kirk (I know) says the gope is going for a shared Speakership Dem/Rep. Can't argue with him.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 19, 2023 01:30 PM (l10hq)

64 58 30 Source for that "500 people killed"?

Third party "health authorities," of course.
---------------
NGOs to be precise. Who rulz NGO?

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:30 PM (XetL6)

65 >>>54 Where is Lamont??

I think there's a little Lamont in all of us.

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:30 PM (KRtlO)

66 Remember to goosestep in unison.
Posted by: Pudinhead


Well, goosestepping out of unison is just kooky, now isn't it?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2023 01:31 PM (IG4Id)

67 Remember way back in the olden days during the Gulf War when every allied journalist had to be constantly stopped from reporting the exact position of the unit they were embedded with so as not to provide aid to our enemy?


I remember.

Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2023 01:31 PM (gmo/4)

68 34 For crying out loud there are audio recordings of the Palis admitting it was one of their rockets...
Posted by: gourmand du jour at October 19, 2023 01:25 PM (MeG8a)


Despite the radio traffic of the 9/11 hijackers and shrieks of A-Akbar, and Bin Laden taking credit for it on worldwide global TV, Dubya came right out and proclaimed it had noting to do with Islam and the media believe him and not their lying eyes.

They've always lied. Now it's just shameless and more easily verifiable that they lie thanks to the internet. For now.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 01:31 PM (x0n13)

69 Before any of this was clarified there were dozens of videos of the area of the Hospital that indicated a rocket was the culprit. But no videos , fake or real presented by Hamas that showed this area hit by an air strike. But the leftist media decided to report that the hospital was hit by an air strike.

Posted by: Drive by at October 19, 2023 01:31 PM (MNhXM)

70 'The American press is a shame and a reproach to a civilized people. When a man is too lazy to work and too cowardly to steal, he becomes an editor and manufactures public opinion.'
--William T. Sherman


Heh. Sam Houston hated journalists, too. When he was dying, he asked two journalists to come to his bedside. He asked one to stand on one side of his bed, and one on the other. When they asked him why, he replied that he wanted to die like Christ. (I.e., between two thieves.)

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 01:31 PM (JrojV)

71 The most they do is stealth correct an article or delete a tweet. They never explain "We got this wrong, and here's why, and here's what we're doing to make sure we don't make the same mistake in the future."
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This is one of the downsides to the death of real, physical newspapers. They can go in and silently "correct the record" and rewrite history and if you aren't watching and recording it in real time, you'll never know.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:31 PM (d04cU)

72 What would it take to stop being surprised?
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Rivers of Blood in Medialand.
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:29 PM (XetL6)

i accept your proposal,

do we drop the media off in gaza or let the gazans in their gated communities?

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 19, 2023 01:32 PM (nXhwP)

73 That CNN headline shift works overtime to create a second scenario that paints Israel in a horrible light.

First, Israelis bombed a hospital.

Second, they didn't but their blockade impacting Palestine's ability to respond to the explosion that was in no part Israel's fault.

F'em all.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 19, 2023 01:32 PM (KbCG3)

74 Hey, when they reported repeated their political-operative sources' lies, they got that all right -- their political-operative sources really did tell those lies!

They successfully transcribed those lies and did no fact-checking at the time or retroactively! Pulitzer Me!

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The Pulitzer is up there with the Nobel Peace Prize.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:32 PM (d04cU)

75 They knew they were wrong.. Hamas hitting a hospital doesn't fit their agenda Israel does...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2023 01:32 PM (bs+z0)

76 willowed:

Woohoo!!!1019AM.
Tsunami and earthquake drill in Washington.
Shake it Baby!!!
Posted by: Diogenes at October 19, 2023 01:22 PM (uSHSS)
......

yeah! I got a text alert here in Santa Cruz County about that but I dleleted it before reading the whole thing.
Please text me after an earthquake hits, thanks.

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2023 01:32 PM (v0R5T)

77 remember hillary at a house of reps hearing in 2015 (i think it was that year) when shown emails about benghazi attack being a planned act pleading ignorance by saying it was "the fog of war"?

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 19, 2023 01:32 PM (B1FKF)

78
In every newsroom there needs to be the Mark Twain quote about a lie getting halfway around the world before the truth gets its shoes tied.

In about four foot tall type. Sorry, don't know how many pica's that is.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2023 01:33 PM (enJYY)

79 linked Adam Carolla talking about this in the sidebar, if you're interested.

i really dig him.
Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:30 PM (KRtlO)

You need to watch his two self produced movies.

The Hammer and Road Hard.

Posted by: Drive by at October 19, 2023 01:33 PM (MNhXM)

80 Where is Lamont??

I think there's a little Lamont in all of us.
Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:30 PM (KRtlO)

Lamont is the otters?

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 19, 2023 01:33 PM (nXhwP)

81 The Simpsons "I'm a journalism" meme comes from ... "meme-arsenal.ru."

.ru

.ru

Ace is a Russian agent!!!!!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:33 PM (d04cU)

82 56 Jeffrey Dahmer wasn't historically able to kill more than one or two at a time.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 19, 2023 01:29 PM (9UlRk)


This whole thing has a not unrelated parallel to the Shoah deniers who claim the Nazis couldn't possibly have killed all those Jews in that short a time.

Holocaust minimization when you can't deny it totally outright.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 01:33 PM (x0n13)

83 NYT atrocious reporting about Gaza merely continues a century-long tradition at the Times.

Walter Duranty won a Pulitzer at the NYT in the '30's for his reporting from Moscow. He was a Soviet agent, pure and simple, & Stalin used him (inter alia) to debunk reports about the UKR famine.

There is a remarkable film about this vomit-inducing chapter in NYT history, i.e., the film "Mr. Jones," directed by Agnieska Holland.

Posted by: mnw at October 19, 2023 01:33 PM (NLIak)

84 >>>ce is a Russian agent!!!!!

obviously, a-doy

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:34 PM (KRtlO)

85 It's really sad that the rush to be first by social media is deteriorating the quality and credibility of the MSM's agitprop.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at October 19, 2023 01:34 PM (nnp+f)

86 JJ, I went shopping for Canticles of Leibowitz and the book was priced at $348 on Amazon. Might be a while before I read this book. I had to pay $45 for Furnace's The Road to Harper's Ferry. Some books are really hard to find for some reason (shifty eyes).

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:34 PM (XetL6)

87 @DrewHolden360
If you're wondering what the @nytimes has taken from their & their press peers' failure, it's that they did nothing wrong & were the victims of circumstance: "The fast-moving events highlighted the difficulty of covering the war between Israel and Hamas."

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Which is, of course, their main argument - as Ace pointed out - for why they're so vital. Unlike those crappy bloggers and shit, they have newsrooms and editors to ensure accuracy and post corrections and retractions.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:34 PM (d04cU)

88 >>>You need to watch his two self produced movies.

yeah I never watched those. I used to listen to him when he was making those so I feel like I've almost watched them.

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:34 PM (KRtlO)

89 Are people surprised?

How?

We've watched these people declare riots mostly peaceful protests basking in the glow of fires. These same people intentionally misreport every racial incident. They've been cheering genocide against whites quite openly for a while now.

What would it take to stop being surprised?
Posted by: This isn't exactly Pearl Harbor. at October 19, 2023 01:27 PM (6z4VY)


Hell, over the past year we've seen reports that Russian tanks will be rolling through Paris within a week AND that the Ukes had broken through everywhere and completely destroyed the Russian military.

It's 1984. The NPCs believe what they're told and then go on to the next tiktok trend.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:34 PM (uvymP)

90 85 It's really sad that the rush to be first by social media is deteriorating the quality and credibility of the MSM's agitprop.
Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov, now, where does a war hero get some lubrication around here? at October 19, 2023 01:34 PM (nnp+f)

I'm more concerned with the rush to cover up.. Anything that goes against their agenda doesn't even make it on the news

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2023 01:35 PM (bs+z0)

91 65 >>>54 Where is Lamont??

I think there's a little Lamont in all of us.
Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:30 PM (KRtlO)

I know, right?

Posted by: Marco Rubio's garbage at October 19, 2023 01:35 PM (Dnobf)

92 Could an errands Hamas rocket please to hit the NYT building?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:35 PM (yetOu)

93 Your "disinformation" earns deplatforming, demonetization, and debanking.

Their disinformation earns Pulitzers.

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Yes. One conforms with the Complex and serves as faith-promoting narrative progress.

You're just a wrecker.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:35 PM (d04cU)

94 86 JJ, I went shopping for Canticles of Leibowitz and the book was priced at $348 on Amazon. Might be a while before I read this book. I had to pay $45 for Furnace's The Road to Harper's Ferry. Some books are really hard to find for some reason (shifty eyes).
Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:34 PM (XetL6)

In my college days, I had aspirations to make "Leibowitiz" into a film. Meh, in the next life.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 01:35 PM (x0n13)

95 This is why I get all my information from a professional Disinformation Expert. (Ok I lied I get it from the comments, but don't tell ace that)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 19, 2023 01:28 PM (eYoxG)


Ace doesn't read the comments. He spends his time devising new and inventive ways to mess up the blog formatting.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:36 PM (uvymP)

96 Errant not errands
Damn my eyes.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:36 PM (yetOu)

97 65 >>>54 Where is Lamont??

I think there's a little Lamont in all of us.
Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:30 PM (KRtlO)

What is he president of?

Posted by: Kamala at October 19, 2023 01:36 PM (53oGX)

98 I'm beginning to think the DeepState loves death...

@jihadwatchRS 4m
Ex-Employee of Hamas Ally Worked as Pentagon Special Assistant for Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological Programs -

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2023 01:36 PM (IG4Id)

99 >The humanitarian crisis in Gaza is that it’s full of Gazans.

I like this man, and will not be throwing him out a window. ~Edward I

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 19, 2023 01:36 PM (44ww/)

100 Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:34 PM (KRtlO)

Me too but they were way better than I expected.

Posted by: Drive by at October 19, 2023 01:37 PM (MNhXM)

101 I'm starting to think that when they call themselves "Disinformation Experts," it's meant differently than how we're reading it.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 19, 2023 01:37 PM (KbCG3)

102 if the msm folks want to regain some amount of trust, all they need to say is, 'you know, sometime trump was right about us'

never happen

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 19, 2023 01:37 PM (B1FKF)

103 83 There is a remarkable film about this vomit-inducing chapter in NYT history, i.e., the film "Mr. Jones," directed by Agnieska Holland.
Posted by: mnw at October 19, 2023 01:33 PM (NLIak


Saw it. Excellent and harrowing. Surprised she even was able to get it distributed, and on Netflix even.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 01:37 PM (x0n13)

104 >>>@jihadwatchRS 4m
Ex-Employee of Hamas Ally Worked as Pentagon Special Assistant for Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological Programs -

oooh wow, I just wrote up the "terror vetter" who turns out to be a terrorist sympathizer. Now there's this.

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:37 PM (KRtlO)

105 I can no longer call the newspapers, news channels, journalists, and reporters by those names. Most of them now get the called Noisies. They make a lot of noise, but don't say anything useful.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 19, 2023 01:37 PM (mNmNo)

106 Has Biden called for the release of American hostages yet?

No?

Huh. That's weird.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 01:20 PM (6Y/Rl)

Zed's dead, baby.

Posted by: Butch Coolidge at October 19, 2023 01:38 PM (v0R5T)

107 Ok, propaganda is propaganda.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone, apropos of nothing at October 19, 2023 01:38 PM (OJLqX)

108 Striking prose today, Ace.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 01:19 PM (JrojV)

OW !

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2023 01:38 PM (T4tVD)

109 95 This is why I get all my information from a professional Disinformation Expert. (Ok I lied I get it from the comments, but don't tell ace that)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 19, 2023 01:28 PM (eYoxG)

Ace doesn't read the comments. He spends his time devising new and inventive ways to mess up the blog formatting.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:36 PM (uvymP)

Yeah that's why I was confident he wouldn't notice what I said and is why I asked y'all not to tell him.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 19, 2023 01:38 PM (eYoxG)

110 @NateSilver538
As someone who frequently criticizes the media, I'd just say you should be approximately 10x more sympathetic to media fuck-ups on stories that are unfolding in real time (i.e. over minutes/hours versus days/weeks). It's literally 10x harder.

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No.
Fuck you.
Next question.

Their entire job is to cover shit as it happens. Their claimed superiority is based on their ability to do so accurately thanks to their checks and balances and internal controls and editorial oversight and honesty of corrections and whatnot. It's all a lie. They are all liars. They are openly, nakedly on the side of Hamas and *anything* that supports Hamas' position gets no questioning and anything counter to it gets investigated enthusiastically.

Fuck them. Sympathy? No. Not even one scintilla. Each time it happens I am not only unsympathetic, I hold them in even greater antipathy. I don't like liars and I especially don't like liars who want me dead. Fuck that, them and you.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:38 PM (d04cU)

111 Chaos. The leftists/communists/muzzies want chaos. They NEED chaos.

(And no one is capable or willing to restore order.)

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 19, 2023 01:39 PM (BdMk6)

112 BREAKING! Israel to replace constitution with the Protocols of the Elders of Zion!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 19, 2023 01:39 PM (FVME7)

113 Right after the massacre in Israel, Rob-Meathead-Reiner tweeted how distraught he was over the carnage and lambasted everyone who supported Hamas after these heinous acts. All along he has smeared Trump whenever he has had a chance and has put Biden on a 1,000 ft pedestal of purity and honor. Now where is he, I wonder, after Biden, instead of giving them his full support to take out Hamas, has hobbled their efforts. And to top it off, gave the Palestinians $100,000,000.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 19, 2023 01:39 PM (RC+Rb)

114 105 I can no longer call the newspapers, news channels, journalists, and reporters by those names. Most of them now get the called Noisies. They make a lot of noise, but don't say anything useful.
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They are repeaters not reporters. Similar to how cell phones work.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:39 PM (XetL6)

115 Fuck them. Sympathy? No. Not even one scintilla. Each time it happens I am not only unsympathetic, I hold them in even greater antipathy. I don't like liars and I especially don't like liars who want me dead. Fuck that, them and you.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:38 PM (d04cU)

Something about truth and lies and pants and circumnavigation....i dunno, whatever.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 19, 2023 01:39 PM (9UlRk)

116 Yes, maybe the disinformation peddlers who say that they don't spread disinformation because they "always admit their errors" should try admitting their errors once in a while.
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Nah, they can't. They're doing their bit for the great big 'ole State/Party/Media Complex. Like all tyrannies, the leadership of ours is *always* strong like bull. Infallibility is mandatory.

They weren't wrong and they didn't fail - it's just that hoarders, wreckers, running dogs, etc. wrecked their glorious plans.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:39 PM (d04cU)

117 The Press has always been the enemy of the People

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 01:39 PM (xcxpd)

118 J6 vintage, at least.

Same tactics. Same people, oddly enough.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone, apropos of nothing at October 19, 2023 01:40 PM (OJLqX)

119 The Pulitzer is up there with the Nobel Peace Prize.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:32 PM (d04cU)


Maybe they should change the name to All-bull Piece Prize.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:40 PM (uvymP)

120 JJ, I went shopping for Canticles of Leibowitz and the book was priced at $348 on Amazon. Might be a while before I read this book. I had to pay $45 for Furnace's The Road to Harper's Ferry. Some books are really hard to find for some reason (shifty eyes).

--

It's really surprising how many books can be found on archive.org

Not saying these can be, just that it's worth a look.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 01:40 PM (6Y/Rl)

121 I guess we can add Hamas and Hezbollah to Obama's Foreign Legions. Don't know what to call the 8-9M who sauntered in these last couple of years.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:40 PM (XetL6)

122 Is there a single member of the MSM who thinks for a moment before hitting send?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (yetOu)

123 Something about truth and lies and pants and circumnavigation....i dunno, whatever.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 19, 2023 01:39 PM (9UlRk)
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That slogan has never been more true than it was over this incident.

That is to be expected. The liars in this case are enthusiastic about their charges.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (d04cU)

124 110 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:38 PM (d04cU)

BINGO.

Honestly, I cannot remember an incident either here or on any other "alternate" news site where a) they fucked it up so badly and b) they did not issue a correction and apology without reservation as soon as they could.

The "repeaters" of the propaganda industry? Not so much. That is their SOP. Lie and then when caught, deflect and place the blame on their enemies for catching them in the first place.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (x0n13)

125 Fuck them. Sympathy? No. Not even one scintilla. Each time it happens I am not only unsympathetic, I hold them in even greater antipathy. I don't like liars and I especially don't like liars who want me dead. Fuck that, them and you.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:38 PM (d04cU)

Again, when every "error" is pointed in one direction, it's not an error.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (KbCG3)

126 Al Jazeera has put out an utterly ridiculous "fact check" claiming that there's no evidence the hospital blast was from a Hamas Missile. It takes about 2 seconds to pick their idiotic claims apart; start with the fact that they claim that an Iron Dome interceptor missile was involved.

Except Iron Dome is a terminal phase interceptor, that is only capable of intercept over Israeli cities, when the trajectory is predictable. It is NOT a boost phase interceptor, because that is not possible unless you know in advance exactly when the rocket is going to be launched. That's far from the greatest error they make, but it's an easy one to point out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (i9ffA)

127 I recall that 1st reports were "100,200" followed not to far later at "500"

Do I have "1000" ?

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (RHGPo)

128 Hi Horde... off topic... I usually just lurk but my dad is a regular here, Mindful Webworker, and he's been pretty sick the lady few days and if anyone can spare some prayers for his recovery to fill health and strength and wisdom for my mom to help him that would be appreciated.

Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (Uul2f)

129 Is there a single member of the MSM who thinks for a moment before hitting send?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (yetOu)
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Does an NPC think about what he spouts out when the player character crosses his path? No, it just responds to programming.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (d04cU)

130 Ghost Ship was on AMC last night. I started to watch it with the sound off, because my wife was asleep on the couch next to me. By the time she went upstairs to bed, I had lost so much of the plot that I couldn’t follow it, so I turned it off.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (JrojV)

131 117 The Press has always been the enemy of the People
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 01:39 PM (xcxpd)

Eh, I think it was better when it was more decentralized (shocker I know.) When you had five or more papers in a town. More biased, sure, but there was a diversity of opinion and you could shop. Now it is all the same informational slop.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone, apropos of nothing at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (OJLqX)

132
Politico, today: DOJ coordinates with state officials as threats to Jews, Muslims rise
Reports of domestic threats have spiked since the Oct. 7 Hamas-led attack on Israel, according to the FBI.

“The entire Justice Department remains vigilant in our efforts to identify and respond to hate crimes, threats of violence, or related incidents, with particular attention to threats to faith communities,” Garland said Thursday. “And, as always, the Justice Department remains focused on doing everything we can to keep Americans safe from the threat of terrorism.”

Faith communities = natural centers for spiritual, emotional, and physical wellness.

Orchestrated, again, springs to mind.

Posted by: L - Can never make 'em love you more or hate you less at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (GshMh)

133 If I have it right from pictures yesterday was only the parking lot of the hospital was bombarded, would explain the 2nd explosions though Hamss does load up public buildings with ammunition.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2023 01:42 PM (RxFwt)

134
Has Biden called for the release of American hostages yet?
No?
Huh. That's weird.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 01:20 PM


Leaving Americans behind is the cornerstone of this administration.They got away with it in Afghanistan with a complicit press, they won't ask him gawd damn question about hostages now.

It is not possible for me to have less respect for about 99% of those fvckers.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2023 01:42 PM (enJYY)

135 There are two storylines on The Young And The Senseless and The Bold And The Beautiful concerning two old men and their apparently declining health. Is Victor Newman going demented? Why is Geezer Eric trembling and coughing up blood?

Are these stories a reflection of current events (i.e., FJB) or is this a sinister psyop to prepare us for the reality of Dementia Joe?

Or both?

*tinfoil hat off*

BTW, Nice Bod Brooke is wearing a nice dark blue outfit today.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at October 19, 2023 01:42 PM (ufFY8)

136 Related:

Trailer for "MonsterNado", which is exactly what you'd expect . . .

https://tinyurl.com/Fookin-Awesome

Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2023 01:42 PM (yayb5)

137 It's really surprising how many books can be found on archive.org

Not saying these can be, just that it's worth a look.
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I'll check that out. Took me 3 years to find a copy of Furnace's The Road to Harpers Ferry. Interesting writer who did serious scholarship. Good read.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:42 PM (XetL6)

138 I'm trying to remember the last time the US and world MDM-MSM reported on and through a collective fit over an Israeli hospital being hit by a Pali rocket ... but I'm coming up blank.

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 01:42 PM (FaTUJ)

139 Al Jazeera English
@AJEnglish
An Al Jazeera digital investigation found no grounds for the Israeli army's claim that the strike on the al-Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza was caused by a failed rocket launch.

-
Well, I guess that settles it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 19, 2023 01:42 PM (FVME7)

140 119 The Pulitzer is up there with the Nobel Peace Prize.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:32 PM (d04cU)

Maybe they should change the name to All-bull Piece Prize.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:40 PM (uvymP)


Actually, this year's Peace Prize went to an Iranian exile who defied the hijab rules. Shocking considering the usual gang of scumbags that get it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 01:42 PM (x0n13)

141 How did they miss using the "8 million" figure ?

8 million Palestinians dead at Gaza hospital

.. just because there are only what ? 2.3 million in Gaza ?

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2023 01:43 PM (RHGPo)

142 Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (Uul2f)

Sorry to hear that.. prayers for a quick recovery

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2023 01:43 PM (bs+z0)

143
NGO's are non-profit, therefore above reproach. You will believe everything they say and support the money they are given by government via your taxes and indebtedness, amen.

Posted by: Auspex at October 19, 2023 01:43 PM (j4U/Z)

144 Again, when every "error" is pointed in one direction, it's not an error.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (KbCG3)
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Yuuuuuup.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:43 PM (d04cU)

145 Hi Horde... off topic... I usually just lurk but my dad is a regular here, Mindful Webworker, and he's been pretty sick the lady few days and if anyone can spare some prayers for his recovery to fill health and strength and wisdom for my mom to help him that would be appreciated.

Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy

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Absolutely, and thank you.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 01:43 PM (6Y/Rl)

146 SMOD you magnificent bastard!

https://tinyurl.com/5n7azmw3

Posted by: Boswell at October 19, 2023 01:43 PM (K+UlC)

147 And wouldn't put it past hundreds lived in that parking lot.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2023 01:43 PM (RxFwt)

148 Self check: do I hate commies the way they hate Jews.

I like to THINK my hatred is more logical and based on evidence.

Hmmm.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone, apropos of nothing at October 19, 2023 01:43 PM (OJLqX)

149 Everything is going as planned.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at October 19, 2023 01:43 PM (ytSiK)

150 The similarity of 'Muslim outrage' and the black community in America is palpable.

No one really believes (that has any sense of intellectual honesty about the)m) that the Islamic community was simply watching the events unfold, with an open mind and objectivity, and then wham-o, the hospital got struck and THAT was just a bridge too far, and they were forced to riot in the streets and torch synagogues and foreign embassies because THAT was the straw that broke the camels back.

Likewise, no one really thinks Jamaal and LoQuisha were just minding their own business, clocking in at the factory each day until....GASP....a black man dies in a police encounter, at which point they are so overcome with grief that they must burn liquor stores and rob Walgreen's in their unique form of sackcloth and ashes for a black guy somewhere far away that they never heard of.

Both groups have been preconditioned to destroy, they are just waiting for the excuse.

What these "unarmed men" and "Gaza General Hospitals" are meant to do is convince moral people that perhaps it's acceptable to rob Walgreen's and slaughter concert goers.

Moral justification is only necessary for the moral.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 19, 2023 01:44 PM (llY4C)

151 The real time facts pointed to Hamas lying . Past Hamas lies should have already been a red flag not to report what they claim as fact. It wasn’t a mistake. It is part of the Leftist media’s agenda.

Posted by: Drive by at October 19, 2023 01:44 PM (MNhXM)

152 Ace is always busy. The weather and time just doesn't run all by itself, people.


Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2023 01:44 PM (gmo/4)

153 Joran van der Sloot confessed to killing 18-year-old Natalee Holloway on a beach in Aruba and dumping her body into the sea. His chilling admission was part of a plea deal for extortion and fraud charges stemming from the teen's 2005 disappearance.

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2023 01:44 PM (RHGPo)

154 Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (Uul2f)

Sorry to hear that he's ill. He's a lovely, interesting thoughtful man and of course I will pray for he and your mother. Thx for letting us know.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2023 01:44 PM (RSbhh)

155 Al Jazeera has put out an utterly ridiculous "fact check" claiming that there's no evidence the hospital blast was from a Hamas Missile. It takes about 2 seconds to pick their idiotic claims apart; start with the fact that they claim that an Iron Dome interceptor missile was involved.

Except Iron Dome is a terminal phase interceptor, that is only capable of intercept over Israeli cities, when the trajectory is predictable. It is NOT a boost phase interceptor, because that is not possible unless you know in advance exactly when the rocket is going to be launched. That's far from the greatest error they make, but it's an easy one to point out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (i9ffA)
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You are not the target audience for their article. Sure, they might have published it in English for a point or two of increased global propaganda value, but it isn't the point.

That's for the Arab world to consume and *that* audience will have little ability - or inclination - to contextualize.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (d04cU)

156 Of course, sugar plum fairy. MW is good people.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone, apropos of nothing at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (OJLqX)

157 130 Ghost Ship was on AMC last night. I started to watch it with the sound off, because my wife was asleep on the couch next to me. By the time she went upstairs to bed, I had lost so much of the plot that I couldn’t follow it, so I turned it off.
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Just focus on the Ballroom Scene. That's where the production budget went. It is a master piece not like Babe: Pig in the City. OBTW - Killers of the Harvest Moon is in theaters tomorrow.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (XetL6)

158 128 You got it, SPF.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (JrojV)

159 Right after the massacre in Israel, Rob-Meathead-Reiner tweeted how distraught he was over the carnage and lambasted everyone who supported Hamas after these heinous acts. All along he has smeared Trump whenever he has had a chance and has put Biden on a 1,000 ft pedestal of purity and honor. Now where is he, I wonder, after Biden, instead of giving them his full support to take out Hamas, has hobbled their efforts. And to top it off, gave the Palestinians $100,000,000.
Posted by: washrivergal at October 19, 2023 01:39 PM (RC+Rb)


He's writing out a check for the max donation to the Reelect Biden Committee. He's a lefty. They say shit all the time, then they blink, their brain reboots, and they go back to being as they have always been.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (uvymP)

160 Thank you Fenelon!

Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (Uul2f)

161 Actually, this year's Peace Prize went to an Iranian exile who defied the hijab rules. Shocking considering the usual gang of scumbags that get it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 01:42 PM (x0n13)
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I'm sorry she won a prize that will bring shame upon her family.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (d04cU)

162 131 117 The Press has always been the enemy of the People
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 01:39 PM (xcxpd)

Eh, I think it was better when it was more decentralized (shocker I know.) When you had five or more papers in a town. More biased, sure, but there was a diversity of opinion and you could shop. Now it is all the same informational slop.
Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone, apropos of nothing at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (OJLqX)

Yeah, wearing your bias on your sleeve (or masthead) made it easier to filter out who was just shilling for one party or the other.

Then the Press managed to convince people that they were 'objective'.

And don't get me started on leftist takeover of Journalism schools and the credentialism of requiring reporters to get journalism degrees....it's all a scam, hoax or worse.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (xcxpd)

163 Again, when every "error" is pointed in one direction, it's not an error.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (KbCG3)

Has the media ever made an error that hurt the left?
Well I suppose they have erroneously reported this truth.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (yetOu)

164 Absolutely, Sugarplum.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (d04cU)

165 "So small-scale bombing in tremendously high volume is okay?"

It does explain why nobody has problems with WWII fire-bombing campaigns but mention the nuclear bombs and everybody loses their minds.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (ou9hh)

166 Sugar Plum fairy- yes and thanks for the information

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (RxFwt)

167 128 Hi Horde... off topic... I usually just lurk but my dad is a regular here, Mindful Webworker, and he's been pretty sick...
Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM

Of course. Prayers up for your dad's recovery and strength for your mother and for you at this difficult time.

Posted by: L - Can never make 'em love you more or hate you less at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (GshMh)

168 I'll check that out. Took me 3 years to find a copy of Furnace's The Road to Harpers Ferry. Interesting writer who did serious scholarship. Good read.

Posted by: Pudinhead

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(whistles nonchalantly)

https://tinyurl.com/yopkapns

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 01:46 PM (6Y/Rl)

169 They can go in and silently "correct the record" and rewrite history and if you aren't watching and recording it in real time, you'll never know.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:31 PM (d04cU)

Winston Smith enters the chat.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 19, 2023 01:46 PM (ufFY8)

170 I think JJ is the deputy weather controller. CBD handles the leg breaking.

ace has his hands full with time.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone, apropos of nothing at October 19, 2023 01:46 PM (OJLqX)

171 SMOD you magnificent bastard!

https://tinyurl.com/5n7azmw3
Posted by: Boswell at October 19, 2023 01:43 PM (K+UlC)

Hope it doesn't hit the moon.

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2023 01:47 PM (v0R5T)

172 xHi Horde... off topic... I usually just lurk but my dad is a regular here, Mindful Webworker, and he's been pretty sick...
Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM

I hope he heals up and recovers swiftly

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 01:47 PM (xcxpd)

173 Aah shit… just got here, started with the post before this one.. the Biden one.. they are not even TRYING to hide things now.. the man peeping out the explains everything. It is Theoden and Saruman, simply put.

Posted by: tubal at October 19, 2023 01:47 PM (PCK5/)

174 Oh, FFS!

@BillMelugin_ 33m
CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2023 01:47 PM (IG4Id)

175 I watched Thief on showtime last night great movie.

Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2023 01:47 PM (gmo/4)

176 120 JJ, I went shopping for Canticles of Leibowitz and the book was priced at $348 on Amazon. Might be a while before I read this book. I had to pay $45 for Furnace's The Road to Harper's Ferry. Some books are really hard to find for some reason (shifty eyes).

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It's really surprising how many books can be found on archive.org

Not saying these can be, just that it's worth a look.
Posted by: Moron Robbie
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I have Amazon listing Canticle for Leibowitz
paperbacks at 7.99 and 12.99 for large format and both are in stock. Hardback is 65 and change. Ebay probably has some used ones as well.

Book is still in print. ISBN-10 for large format is 0060892994 if you have a Barnes and Noble around you because you do not like Amazon.

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2023 01:47 PM (TKiGG)

177 Nate Silver @NateSilver538
To be less sympathetic, media outlets need to be a lot better about admitting when they fucked up, though.
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Go fuck yourself, dirtcunt.

Posted by: ... at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (Ozo0B)

178 BREAKING: 500 brain deaths at MSNBC studios

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (RHGPo)

179 And thank you all for your prayers!

Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (Uul2f)

180 I thought about saying 'deputy comptroller' but I have never understood how a comptroller was different from a controller. Sounds better? Involves computers? Completely unrelated?

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone, apropos of nothing at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (OJLqX)

181 @BillMelugin_ 33m
CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October

Whatever for?

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (yetOu)

182 It does explain why nobody has problems with WWII fire-bombing campaigns but mention the nuclear bombs and everybody loses their minds.
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The fire bombings were more deadly than Atomic bombs.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (XetL6)

183 Al Jazeera English
@AJEnglish
An Al Jazeera digital investigation found no grounds for the Israeli army's claim that the strike on the al-Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza was caused by a failed rocket launch.
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Well, I guess that settles it.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 19, 2023 01:42 PM (FVME7)


So they're saying that it was a deliberate strike by Hamas?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (uvymP)

184 @BillMelugin_
CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2023 01:47 PM (IG4Id)
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Why? US states do not have a foreign policy. DeSantis' private airlift is about as far as one can go without crossing the line.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (d04cU)

185 He's writing out a check for the max donation to the Reelect Biden Committee. He's a lefty. They say shit all the time, then they blink, their brain reboots, and they go back to being as they have always been.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:45 PM (uvymP)

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That's what I figure, too.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (RC+Rb)

186 Self check: do I hate commies the way they hate Jews.

I like to THINK my hatred is more logical and based on evidence.

Hmmm.


They hate actual humans. You only hate communists.

Posted by: What Rafal Gan-Ganowicz said. at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (6z4VY)

187 The latest entry to Maxim's "Hottest 100 Women" is . . ., that's right! You guessed it!

This person was just added to Maxim's "Hottest 100 Women"

https://tinyurl.com/bdh44fnm

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (FVME7)

188
Whatever for?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (yetOu)

He's not running for president ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2023 01:49 PM (bs+z0)

189 The Pulitzer is up there with the Nobel Peace Prize.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:32 PM (d04cU)

Maybe they should change the name to All-bull Piece Prize.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:40 PM (uvymP)

Actually, this year's Peace Prize went to an Iranian exile who defied the hijab rules. Shocking considering the usual gang of scumbags that get it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2023 01:42 PM (x0n13)


I was unclear. I was referring to changing the name of the Pulitzer.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:49 PM (uvymP)

190 Serious you guys, how fucked up do you have to be to have to get Palestinian Islamic Jihad to do your job for you?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 19, 2023 01:49 PM (fY84s)

191 Bring Out Your Dead ...

CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2023 01:49 PM (RHGPo)

192 128 Hi Horde... off topic... I usually just lurk but my dad is a regular here, Mindful Webworker, and he's been pretty sick the lady few days and if anyone can spare some prayers for his recovery to fill health and strength and wisdom for my mom to help him that would be appreciated.
Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy
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Prayers up Sugar Plum but be careful asking the Horde for wisdom as our definition of wisdom comes with a wide range of possibilities.. ;-)

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at October 19, 2023 01:49 PM (LdguF)

193 CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October

Whatever for?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (yetOu)
......

They need High Speed Rail.

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2023 01:49 PM (v0R5T)

194 "during the Gulf War when every allied journalist had to be constantly stopped from reporting the exact position of the unit they were embedded with so as not to provide aid to our enemy?"

I thought a few of the smarter ones knocked it off them they actually got shot at as a result of their reporting.

It's amazing that as many of them survived that conflict as did.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2023 01:49 PM (ou9hh)

195 >>>Ghost Ship was on AMC last night.

should this just be a Ghost Ship blog or what? I don't want to fight the tides.

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM (KRtlO)

196 Hating someone based on their actions, Communism actively erodes society, is one thing. Hating someone based on what their skin color or parents origin is wrong.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM (xcxpd)

197 The latest entry to Maxim's "Hottest 100 Women" is . . ., that's right! You guessed it! ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (FVME7)
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Of course.

It actually makes me wonder if Maxim is trolling with this one. They didn't even try to pick even a remotely passable tranny. It's clearly a dude, and it's a late middle-aged one by the look of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM (d04cU)

198 Trailer for "MonsterNado", which is exactly what you'd expect . . .
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FML

Posted by: Godzilla at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM (Dnobf)

199 Hi Horde... off topic... I usually just lurk but my dad is a regular here, Mindful Webworker, and he's been pretty sick the lady few days and if anyone can spare some prayers for his recovery to fill health and strength and wisdom for my mom to help him that would be appreciated.

Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy

Okay

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM (T4tVD)

200 Can't remember which website has long documented that every single story out of the Muslim side of the Arab vs. Israel battle is fake. Memri.org?

The world's press organs all know this and participate willingly in it, and have for 40 years.

I'll go see if I can find it.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM (yayb5)

201
In my college days, I had aspirations to make "Leibowitiz" into a film. Meh, in the next life.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton


You are referring to Fawn (that minx)?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM (xG4kz)

202 >>> @BillMelugin_ 33m
CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October
Whatever for?

he's running for president. Biden will get The Talk soon.

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM (KRtlO)

203 They're all working for Baghdad Bob now.

Posted by: DaveA at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (FhXTo)

204
Al Jazeera English
@AJEnglish
An Al Jazeera digital investigation found no grounds for the Israeli army's claim that the strike on the al-Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza was caused by a failed rocket launch.


By digital they mean they held a finger up in the air, determined wind direction, then lied their ass off.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (enJYY)

205 I agree with (Not A Cop).

If ALL the mistakes always go in one direction, they're not mistakes.

The Gaza hospital reporting is consistent with the Pee Dossier reporting, and the Hunter Laptop reporting.

The mistakes... ALL GO... in ONE direction.

If the American public can't wake up to the dangers of open borders NOW, then the U.S. as we know it is done. The danger is like a giant, flashing neon sign-- it's that obvious.

Posted by: mnw at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (NLIak)

206 should this just be a Ghost Ship blog or what? I don't want to fight the tides.
Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
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No way! If it becomes the Ghost Ship blog, nobody can comfortably talk about Prometheus or Star Trek!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (d04cU)

207 hamas bombs are not big enough...

Our very own mother-lover troll Paul posted this same thing in his post of lies.

Parrot posting sheep...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (WS0K3)

208 >>>The latest entry to Maxim's "Hottest 100 Women" is . . ., that's right! You guessed it! ...

I could never guess.

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (KRtlO)

209 I was referring to changing the name of the Pulitzer.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:49 PM (uvymP)

Let's change it to the Dumbshitzer or the Whofuckingcaresitzer

Posted by: ... at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (Ozo0B)

210 175 I watched Thief on showtime last night great movie.

Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2023 01:47 PM (gmo/4)

It really is

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (xcxpd)

211 3 Al Jazeera English
@AJEnglish
An Al Jazeera digital investigation found no grounds for the Israeli army's claim that the strike on the al-Ahli Arab hospital in Gaza was caused by a failed rocket launch. ——

Need to at least correct that the strike was on the parking lot and not the hospital.

Posted by: Drive by at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (MNhXM)

212 Let's change it to the Dumbshitzer or the Whofuckingcaresitzer
Posted by: ... at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (Ozo0B)

The Pulltheotheroneitzer

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 19, 2023 01:52 PM (9UlRk)

213 Puddinhead, look for that book on Half Price Books. They claim to have a used copy at around $9.00

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2023 01:52 PM (xhaym)

214 206 should this just be a Ghost Ship blog or what? I don't want to fight the tides.
Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
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No way! If it becomes the Ghost Ship blog, nobody can comfortably talk about Prometheus or Star Trek!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (d04cU)

Your terms are acceptable

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 01:52 PM (xcxpd)

215 Posted by: Sugar Plum fairy at October 19, 2023 01:41 PM (Uul2f)

Sending prayers.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Psalm 83 at October 19, 2023 01:52 PM (xPJvm)

216 The latest entry to Maxim's "Hottest 100 Women" is . . ., that's right! You guessed it! ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (FVME7)

I don't deserve this

Posted by: ... at October 19, 2023 01:53 PM (Ozo0B)

217 he's running for president. Biden will get The Talk soon.
Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM (KRtlO)
........

Who's gonna do it, Blinken or Kirby?
Or will they chicken out and make Obama do it?

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2023 01:53 PM (v0R5T)

218 Maxim's List of 100 greatest machine guns that stop frontal bayonet charges dead in their tracks. And silencers.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 19, 2023 01:53 PM (0EOe9)

219 @BillMelugin_ 33m
CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October

Whatever for?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (yetOu)


Convince them to go long on solar, EVs, and high speed trains.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:53 PM (uvymP)

220 My hat is off to all of you Cobs, and also you prolific commenters… I don’t know how you find the… words.. to post here every day, and make the good points that you do.. just.. how do you do it??

Posted by: tubal at October 19, 2023 01:53 PM (PCK5/)

221 I was told there'd be beer.

Posted by: Noah Bawdy at October 19, 2023 01:53 PM (+yIxb)

222 Used paperbacks of 'Canticle' are about $6 on Amazon.

Any good used bookstore (if they exist around you) probably has it cheaper.

And then there's the internet scans or Archive.org

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (xcxpd)

223 on the way Sugar Plum Fairy!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (+vFC3)

224 So what were the last 5 great “bombshell” reports of the last five years that weren’t hoaxes?

Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (7rzgu)

225 210 175 I watched Thief on showtime last night great movie.

Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2023 01:47 PM (gmo/4)

It really is
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (xcxpd)

The soundtrack by Tangerine Dream is outstanding…

Posted by: tubal at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (PCK5/)

226 I think I'll watch "The Blue Max" tonight. Another good movie for it's depiction of air combat in WW1.

Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (gmo/4)

227 @BillMelugin_
CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2023 01:47 PM (IG4Id)
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Why? US states do not have a foreign policy. DeSantis' private airlift is about as far as one can go without crossing the line.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (d04cU)


Democrat. No line can be crossed by one of the anointed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (uvymP)

228 Our Dr. Fauci is a health authority.
Just sayin'

Posted by: torabora at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (OUiUM)

229 So what were the last 5 great “bombshell” reports of the last five years that weren’t hoaxes?
Posted by: Corona exile-back_in_exile at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (7rzgu)
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The weather report is sometimes accurate. It's usually within the margin of error, but hey - a win is a win.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (d04cU)

230 CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.

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That reminds me.

I heard on the radio that California is raising minimum wage to $20/hour for fast food workers. Only fast food workers, though. If you are doing something that requires even a slight bit of skill, you can still be paid $15/hour.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 01:55 PM (6Y/Rl)

231
It actually makes me wonder if Maxim is trolling with this one. They didn't even try to pick even a remotely passable tranny. It's clearly a dude, and it's a late middle-aged one by the look of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:50 PM


I miss the good old days when guys having a midlife crisis got hair plugs and a Corvette convertible while young girls snickered at them behind their backs.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2023 01:55 PM (enJYY)

232 Fucking helmethair....

"Ooooh, that nazi in Florida scored a point off this mess! Now i gotta go fly all the way the fuck over there and try to do something. Dammit. And I had a taint wax scheduled for next week, too. Stoopid joos. Wrecking things for everyone else."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 19, 2023 01:55 PM (9UlRk)

233 Gavin heard that balm of Gilead makes a great hair gel, so he’s gonna pick some up direct from the source.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 01:55 PM (JrojV)

234 Democrat. No line can be crossed by one of the anointed.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (uvymP)
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Yes, I know. John Kerry can act as a self-appointed shadow Secretary of State and work directly against America's interests as a private citizen and nothing comes of it.

Newsom going to Israel is comparatively a nothingburger.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:55 PM (d04cU)

235 CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October

Whatever for?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (yetOu)
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Now they can't start the ground offensive until he's been and gone, too.

Posted by: Methos at October 19, 2023 01:55 PM (Dnobf)

236 226 I think I'll watch "The Blue Max" tonight. Another good movie for it's depiction of air combat in WW1.

Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (gmo/4)

Yarp. And WITHOUT stoopid CGI!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 19, 2023 01:56 PM (N3zMI)

237 It's too bad Jack Elam has passed on. He could be Miss Universe today.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 19, 2023 01:56 PM (FVME7)

238 I have Amazon listing Canticle for Leibowitz
paperbacks at 7.99 and 12.99 for large format and both are in stock. Hardback is 65 and change. Ebay probably has some used ones as well.
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Thanks, Whig. Just ordered it at $7.99. Used my celphone and not my work computer. I work behind a firewall. This fucks up routine computer actions.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:56 PM (mhQkT)

239 As TJM sometimes points out, Triangle is a much better movie than Ghost Ship. Ghost Ship is not The Island levels of bad. But. I can definitely say Ghost Ship is a movie.

Posted by: I don't get it. But we all have unjustifiable favorites, I guess. at October 19, 2023 01:56 PM (6z4VY)

240 the monsternado trailer was entertaining, and really follows the How To Make A Blockbuster Movie Trailer to a T

https://youtu.be/KAOdjqyG37A?si=6nnwEseDl3F9IUT-

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2023 01:56 PM (xhaym)

241
Pali rockets are merely rolls of toy guns' caps stuffed into an empty paper towel cardboard core -- they could not harm even a fly!

-- another Al Jazeera digital investigation!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 19, 2023 01:56 PM (xG4kz)

242 Used paperbacks of 'Canticle' are about $6 on Amazon.

Any good used bookstore (if they exist around you) probably has it cheaper.

And then there's the internet scans or Archive.org

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, anti-Marxist, buy ammo

-

I always sort of hope that people who used the internet prior to facebook and google still sail the seas just out of principle.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 01:56 PM (6Y/Rl)

243 @184

>>Why? US states do not have a foreign policy. DeSantis' private airlift is about as far as one can go without crossing the line.

To play interference for Hamas to prevent Israel from launching their assaults on Gaza.

It's the same reason the Prime Minister of England is going to Israel.


Israel is in a tough spot. They are facing a Panopticon of enemies from within and without.

Whatever they intend to do they need to do it fast before, "The International Community," starts swinging it's dick.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2023 01:56 PM (rc3Z7)

244
Gavin Newsom is going to be a hostage exchange for the hot chick the Pali's operated on?

Posted by: Auspex at October 19, 2023 01:57 PM (j4U/Z)

245 235 CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October

Whatever for?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (yetOu)
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To stock up on Holy Land Hair Gel. There might be a shortage of that soon.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 01:57 PM (mhQkT)

246 237 It's too bad Jack Elam has passed on. He could be Miss Universe today.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 19, 2023 01:56 PM (FVME7)

Gabby Hayes, Slim Pickens, Michael J Pollard…

Posted by: tubal at October 19, 2023 01:57 PM (PCK5/)

247 181 @BillMelugin_ 33m
CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October

Whatever for?
Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 01:48 PM (yetOu)

Always have a Plan B.

Wait... what is he going there for?

Posted by: Kamala at October 19, 2023 01:57 PM (53oGX)

248 No way! If it becomes the Ghost Ship blog, nobody can comfortably talk about Prometheus or Star Trek!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:51 PM (d04cU)


We're rebels. Except the yankees, of course.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 01:57 PM (uvymP)

249 I'm guessing its Dublin Mulroney or whatever the Bud Light Girl's name is, right?
not clickin' no link nohow

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 19, 2023 01:57 PM (+vFC3)

250 The American media reports every claimed ‘hate crime’ as fact and then has a blurb months later when it’s found to be a fake hate crime. Sometimes not even that.

The only one they acknowledged more than a blurb was Jussie but they did their best to try and down play it.

Posted by: Drive by at October 19, 2023 01:58 PM (MNhXM)

251 I buy used books a fair amount.

But I have to resist the urge to CSI them with a blacklight.

Posted by: I'm trusting my fellow readers, but deep down I know my trust is misplaced. at October 19, 2023 01:58 PM (6z4VY)

252 Nate Silver
@NateSilver538

To be less sympathetic, media outlets need to be a lot better about admitting when they fucked up, though.

-----------

Nate's model still has Hillary Clinton at 93% chance to win the presidency in 2016

Has he ever apologized for that fuck-up?

Posted by: ShainS -- Overimaginative Scamp and AGAAVE Plant at October 19, 2023 01:58 PM (FaTUJ)

253 the monsternado trailer was entertaining, and really follows the How To Make A Blockbuster Movie Trailer to a T

https://youtu.be/KAOdjqyG37A
Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2023 01:56 PM (xhaym)
++++
That was extremely funny.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:59 PM (d04cU)

254 I'm guessing its Dublin Mulroney or whatever the Bud Light Girl's name is, right?
not clickin' no link nohow
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 19, 2023 01:57 PM (+vFC3)

General guess of tranny would be accepted as a correct answer.

Posted by: Drive by at October 19, 2023 01:59 PM (MNhXM)

255 246 Andy Devine.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 01:59 PM (JrojV)

256 0 My hat is off to all of you Cobs, and also you prolific commenters… I don’t know how you find the… words.. to post here every day, and make the good points that you do.. just.. how do you do it??
Posted by: tubal at October 19, 2023 0


***
Full disclosure: We use some of the same words more than once.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (J2vNu)

257
My Nurse practitioner doesn't give digital investigations and I'm sure not gonna ask Al Jazeera for one.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (enJYY)

258 It's not all that difficult to totally ignore the media these days. Not a single report has ever been honest or remotely without bias. You may very well be the witness to "news" one day and read reports about what you saw, heard and inferred from the "news" event note that the person reporting is simply making shit up on the fly.

That's when the public needs to slap the media down hard. It was done in Israel over the fake hospital bombing when video evidence and data from various sources surfaced to refute what Hamas' mouthpieces in the media were reporting.

Citizen reporting needs to be more of a thing.... not just on social media where it already has a home, but in calling out traditional media with their lies.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (Q4IgG)

259 255 246 Andy Devine.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 01:59 PM (JrojV)

Can’t leave out Steve Buscemi… real hottie!!

Posted by: tubal at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (PCK5/)

260 How did it go from the Baptist hospital in Gaza to Al-Ahli Arab hospital?

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Also:

ThunderB🇺🇸
@Pimpernell13
The Hamas Massacre of October 7 was probably most well documented and videoed pogrom/massacre of all time

Followed almost immediately by the most easily disproved blood libel (the PIJ missle misfire in Gaza), also with tons of video

And still the denials.

It’s not about facts
Oct 19, 2023

Posted by: L - Can never make 'em love you more or hate you less at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (GshMh)

261 Ooooh, that nazi in Florida scored a point off this mess!

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Didja see Pierre Delecto's comments? (Meatball is publicizing his endorsement.)

DeSantis War Room 🐊
@DeSantisWarRoom
Mitt Romney warns that @RonDeSantis is “dangerous” and “authoritarian”, presumably because he has enacted conservative policy instead of just talking about it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (FVME7)

262 >>Why? US states do not have a foreign policy. DeSantis' private airlift is about as far as one can go without crossing the line.

To play interference for Hamas to prevent Israel from launching their assaults on Gaza.

--

Yep. *WE* broke the siege with our donations and demands for "humanitarian aid" or whatever silliness it was.

We are 100% on the side of Hamas, regardless of any pretty speeches.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (6Y/Rl)

263 Has Newsom been practicing Serpentine! so he can dodge sniper fire in Israel?

Posted by: davidt at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (SYTee)

264 244
Gavin Newsom is going to be a hostage exchange for the hot chick the Pali's operated on?
Posted by: Auspex at October 19, 2023 01:57 PM (j4U/Z)
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He is an expert on homelessness, electrical black outs, and drought.

Posted by: scampydog at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (2bFN5)

265 they havent been correct

or told the truth about anything

since trump came down the escalator

in 2015

Posted by: sound awake at October 19, 2023 02:01 PM (a4i82)

266 Just tuned my car
Now she really peels
Looking real tough with chrome reversed wheels
a DuPont wax job makes her real pretty
"Man, some bird just crapped all over my Vette!

Don Retardo, calling for the Secret Service

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 19, 2023 02:01 PM (0EOe9)

267 We use some of the same words more than once.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (J2vNu)

We use some of the words more than once

Posted by: Amy Schumer at October 19, 2023 02:01 PM (ufFY8)

268 And we have a "blockade" on Cuba.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2023 02:01 PM (63Dwl)

269 "@BillMelugin_
CA Gov. Gavin Newsom is headed to Israel.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2023 01:47 PM (IG4Id)
++++
Why? US states do not have a foreign policy. DeSantis' private airlift is about as far as one can go without crossing the line.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)"

Because he's bein' all Presidential an' sh!t.

Apparently doing everyone else's job but your own is all the rage in the higher echelons of government these days.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2023 02:02 PM (ou9hh)

270 Reporters = repeaters

I like it. Have you modified the AOSHQ Style Guide to reflect this?

Posted by: creeper at October 19, 2023 02:02 PM (cTCuP)

271 Thanks, Whig. Just ordered it at $7.99. Used my celphone and not my work computer. I work behind a firewall. This fucks up routine computer actions.
Posted by: Pudinhead
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Understand. You are welcome.

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2023 02:02 PM (TKiGG)

272 39 Worthless baccalaureate degrees for intellectual midgets:

1. Journalism/Communications

2. Psychology

3. Anything with "Studies" in the title.

Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2023 01:26 PM (gmo/4)
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You forgot
4. Education

and it should be at #2.

Posted by: Ciampino - ET? at October 19, 2023 02:02 PM (qfLjt)

273 Will Biden be on time for his speech?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2023 02:02 PM (63Dwl)

274 Jack Elam was a beautiful lady.

Posted by: Anne Ramsey at October 19, 2023 02:02 PM (DZrNt)

275 Always have a Plan B.

Wait... what is he going there for?
Posted by: Kamala at October 19, 2023 01:57 PM (53oGX)


Russians don't take a dump without a Plan B. That's how you know Matt Gaetz ain't a Russian. -- Janine Painter (formerly Josh), ADM (retired)

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 02:02 PM (uvymP)

276 If any of you are wondering why the entire Arab World will never accept any "Palestinian Refugees?"

Google Black September, and Lebanese Civil War.

Palestinian Fedayeen, soon to be known as the PLO, set up their own "State within a State" in Jordan. The Palestinians tried to assassinate the King of Jordan - TWICE.

The Jordanian Army got busy and killed most of them in 1971. The 2,000 survivors were shipped to Lebanon. Four years later, the Palestinians started a civil war in Lebanon, which was the Paris of the Middle East.

Then ask the Kuwaitis about Palestinian loyalty during the Iraq Invasion.

Finally, look at the paradise of modern Gaza.

Posted by: rd at October 19, 2023 02:02 PM (+QJh9)

277 It's not any harder to get "fast moving" events right. You just don't print until you have all the facts right, fast moving or slow moving.
But it is harder to resist the temptation for huge clicks. And when you're just itching to make your side look good.

Posted by: Wally at October 19, 2023 02:03 PM (hqVaF)

278 The weather report is sometimes accurate. It's usually within the margin of error, but hey - a win is a win.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 01:54 PM (d04cU)


Speaking of which, the weather forecast for Argentina, October 19 2023

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1flVw9LA39o

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2023 02:03 PM (xhaym)

279 It's not all that difficult to totally ignore the media these days.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (Q4IgG)


Honestly, if Ace and JJ would stop posting what they say I wouldn't know.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 02:04 PM (uvymP)

280 If you are doing something that requires even a slight bit of skill, you can still be paid $15/hour.
Posted by: Moron Robbie


Easy. Just call your fast food employees 'zoo staff.'

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2023 02:04 PM (IG4Id)

281 We know that 500 people died because Hamas said so. We know Israel must be behind this because Hamas says so. Also, we know Israel is behind it because Hamas' rockets can't kill 500 people in one go, and we know 500 people died because Hamas says so.


LIES! LIES! LIES! ALL LIES! Because Hamas SAID it was a 6,000 bed CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL.
BECAUSE HAMAS SAID SO.

Regardless of the fact there is NO hospital in the world that has 6,000 beds. Let alone in Gaza.
😂😂😂

Posted by: rickb223 at October 19, 2023 02:04 PM (+lnIr)

282 We use some of the same words more than once.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at October 19, 2023 02:00 PM (J2vNu)

We use some of the words more than once
Posted by: Amy Schumer at October 19, 2023 02:01 PM (ufFY


IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE AMY SCHUMER PLAGIARIZES EVERYTHING AND THE TEXT IS ABOUT USING WORDS MORE THAN ONCE.

Posted by: Ben Rothlissberger at October 19, 2023 02:04 PM (ufFY8)

283 I think that the Israeli government should not allow any American politicians to come over there.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2023 02:05 PM (RSbhh)

284 Now they can't start the ground offensive until he's been and gone, too.
Posted by: Methos at October 19, 2023 01:55 PM (Dnobf)


*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: creeper at October 19, 2023 02:05 PM (cTCuP)

285 I do question the timing, right at Brandon's visit.

Tinfoil hat time: Party orders media to run wall-to-wall coverage of phony Jewish devilry a day ahead. Arabs go bananas immediately. Brandon swoops in and declares that Hamas can't shoot straight the next.

A little bit of intimidation. "We can turn this on and off at will, you guys. Don't forget it."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2023 02:05 PM (0FoWg)

286 Biden gave Hamas $100 million while he was less than 35 miles away from the American children being held hostage by Hamas.

He didn't even demand proof they were being treated humanely first.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 19, 2023 02:05 PM (tG8AS)

287 Maxim's List of 100 greatest machine guns that stop frontal bayonet charges dead in their tracks. And silencers.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at

The doofus humiliated by Pierre Poliivierr is the Maxim Doofus of the Year.

Posted by: That Northernlurker what lurkd at October 19, 2023 02:05 PM (yetOu)

288 I have seen analysis that suggests that an air-burst bomb was dropped by Israel. I make no claim for accuracy can verify these statements, and have no dog in this fight. Discernment and perception are keys to understanding this event.


Brighteon Broadcast News, Oct 19, 2023 - New video evidence points to Israeli AIR BURST bomb striking al-Ahli hospital grounds

- Conservative media publishers across the USA push Israeli government talking points
- Because "Israel," they suddenly believe government authorities
- The bombing of the al-Ahli hospital used an AIR BURST bomb
- The air burst did not destroy hospital buildings, but killed hundreds of people
- The people were sleeping in the courtyard, outside the buildings, adjacent to the parking lot
- Vehicle roofs and hoods were crushed FROM ABOVE, proving air burst (not ground burst)
- #Israel bombed the streets near another hospital within 24 hours
- Official UN report says Israel has bombed hospitals 51 times since Oct. 7th, killing 15 healthcare workers
- Israel routinely LIES about committing atrocities
- Israel wanted to blame Jihadis to further justify #genocide and THEFT of Gaza land.

LIKE I SAID, I have no dog in this.

Posted by: MJSOH at October 19, 2023 02:05 PM (6u/2z)

289
Did Jussie ever do a day in jail? I know he broke down and cried in court and the reasonable prosecutor overturned the judge's sentence somehow but now innocent because Trump?

Posted by: Auspex at October 19, 2023 02:06 PM (j4U/Z)

290 Hey, FenSpoke!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 02:06 PM (JrojV)

291 Jack Elam was a beautiful lady.

Cock eyed too.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 19, 2023 02:06 PM (0fIkm)

292 the monsternado trailer was entertaining, and really follows the How To Make A Blockbuster Movie Trailer to a T

https://youtu.be/KAOdjqyG37A
Posted by: Kindltot

The Outer Worlds II trailer.

https://tinyurl.com/5n6d8ubz

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now With Pumpkin Spice! at October 19, 2023 02:06 PM (FVME7)

293 We use some of the words more than once
Posted by: Amy Schumer at October 19, 2023 02:01 PM (ufFY

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE AMY SCHUMER PLAGIARIZES EVERYTHING AND THE TEXT IS ABOUT USING WORDS MORE THAN ONCE.

Posted by: Ben Rothlissberger at October 19, 2023 02:04 PM (ufFY


Say... these posts have the same hash. I'm thinking Ben wrote his own setup.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 02:06 PM (uvymP)

294 Speaking of which, the weather forecast for Argentina, October 19 2023



Weather forecast for Gaza for October 22, 2023:

Increasing periods of bottled sunshine with overall highs expected in the upper 4,000's.

SPF of 45,000 is advised.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 19, 2023 02:07 PM (+lnIr)

295 I have seen analysis that suggests that an air-burst bomb was dropped by Israel.

--

The only problem is waiting so long.

Okay, two problems. Waiting so long and only dropping that one.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 02:07 PM (6Y/Rl)

296 The hospital disaster has all the hallmarks of an Israeli attack.

Posted by: CIA at October 19, 2023 02:07 PM (SYTee)

297 283 I think that the Israeli government should not allow any American politicians to come over there.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2023 02:05 PM (RSbhh)

Yeah, try and stop American politicians from coming.

Posted by: Auspex at October 19, 2023 02:07 PM (j4U/Z)

298 >>>LIKE I SAID, I have no dog in this.

uh-huh

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2023 02:08 PM (KRtlO)

299 Yeah, muzzies hate dogs.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 19, 2023 02:08 PM (0fIkm)

300 Gavin "Da Guv" Newsome is going to Israel hoping he can get his picture taken in an Israeli tank. The CA NG won't let him do it in one of theirs, and he needs his Mike Dukakis moment.

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 19, 2023 02:08 PM (mNmNo)

301 I, too, have no dog in this.

Posted by: Jim Acosta at October 19, 2023 02:08 PM (KRtlO)

302 Say... these posts have the same hash. I'm thinking Ben wrote his own setup.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 02:06 PM (uvymP)

Shhhh....

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 19, 2023 02:08 PM (ufFY8)

303 if a troll had a dog it would run away as fast as it could.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - these lying bastardi e stronzi have been lying for decades at October 19, 2023 02:08 PM (+vFC3)

304 The bombing of the al-Ahli hospital used an AIR BURST bomb
- The air burst did not destroy hospital buildings, but killed hundreds of people

LIKE I SAID, I have no dog in this.

Posted by: MJSOH


You have no brains in it either.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 19, 2023 02:09 PM (+lnIr)

305 LIKE I SAID, I have no dog in this.

Posted by: MJSOH at October 19, 2023 02:05 PM (6u/2z)

Sure

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2023 02:09 PM (bs+z0)

306 Get all dogs out of the area before dropping all of the air-burst munitions.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 02:09 PM (6Y/Rl)

307 Yeah, try and stop American politicians from coming.

Posted by: Auspex at October 19, 2023 02:07 PM (j4U/Z)


Ask them to recite multiplication tables.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 02:09 PM (uvymP)

308 The fact that Muslims hate dogs tells you all you need to know about them.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 02:10 PM (JrojV)

309 Apparently doing everyone else's job but your own is all the rage in the higher echelons of government these days.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2023 02:02 PM (ou9hh)

See Supremo Grifto Zelinsky. WTH is he doing try to visit the ME? Isn't he holding off the communist hordes from the rest of the world?

Posted by: A dude in MI at October 19, 2023 02:10 PM (/6GbT)

310 LIKE I SAID, I have no dog in this.
Posted by: MJSOH at October 19, 2023 02:05 PM (6u/2z)


Yet you have fleas. Odd that.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2023 02:10 PM (xhaym)

311 Get all dogs out of the area before dropping all of the air-burst munitions.
Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 02:09 PM (6Y/Rl)

I will take them.
And, can you refer a good chef to me?

Posted by: Barky O'Fuckstick at October 19, 2023 02:10 PM (ufFY8)

312 They also hate adoption.

Who hates dogs and adoption?

Posted by: Wally at October 19, 2023 02:10 PM (hqVaF)

313 I think that the Israeli government should not allow any American politicians to come over there.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


"Airforce 1, this is Israeli Tower control. You do not have authorization to land. I repeat, you do not have authorization to land".

Posted by: rickb223 at October 19, 2023 02:11 PM (+lnIr)

314 Why is Newsom going to Israel? Prep for the November 30 debate with Governor Ron DeStilletos. DeStilletos sends jet over to Israel, death penalty for pedos. Red meat for the rubes to jizz in their pants.

Gotta shore up your boner fides.

Posted by: JROD at October 19, 2023 02:12 PM (IlL6s)

315
The hospital disaster has all the hallmarks of an Israeli attack.

Posted by: CIA at October 19, 2023 02:07 PM


Earmarks. They used the word earmarks, which should have been a big 'tell' to everyone that they were making shit up.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2023 02:12 PM (enJYY)

316 Use some type of pre-blast munition to make sure the air burst munitions are the most effective against the targets.

Is this what you were hoping for, MJOSH?

Posted by: Moron Robbie is raising arrows at October 19, 2023 02:12 PM (6Y/Rl)

317 "Airforce 1, this is Israeli Tower control. You do not have authorization to land. I repeat, you do not have authorization to land".
Posted by: rickb223 at October 19, 2023 02:11 PM (+lnIr)

It's what they should have done

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2023 02:12 PM (bs+z0)

318 I looked up Brighteon News… I have drawn conclusions.. I did not bookmark Brighteon News.

Posted by: tubal at October 19, 2023 02:13 PM (PCK5/)

319 Posted by: MJSOH at October 19, 2023 02:05 PM (6u/2z)

Your dog-which you have to ignore - seems to limp. Since when is the UN remotely objective or recently supportive of the State of Israel.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2023 02:13 PM (RSbhh)

320 Hen Mazzig @HenMazzig
Footage from the attack on the Synagogue last night:
https://tinyurl.com/43ks6wv7
17 seconds; loud, celebratory Arabic music -- suggest killing the sound

Hen Mazzig @HenMazzig
My grandmother was forced out of Tunisia in 1951 with her children because she was Jewish.

She came to Israel.

Yesterday, hundreds of Tunisians burnt the el-Hamma Synagogue, reminding my family why we need a country of our own.

All that’s left from the synagogue:
https://tinyurl.com/yc3m3tem
2:20 minutes

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 19, 2023 02:13 PM (krqg6)

321 "Hamas rockets can't kill 500"

proper analysis: "so there were not 500 killed".

MFM analysis: "So Israel did the strike."

Posted by: illiniwek at October 19, 2023 02:14 PM (Cus5s)

322
The hospital disaster has all the hallmarks of an Israeli attack.
Posted by: CIA


Yeah, what he said!

Posted by: Larger Leon Panetta at October 19, 2023 02:14 PM (63Dwl)

323 Israel is in a tough spot. They are facing a Panopticon of enemies from within and without.

Whatever they intend to do they need to do it fast before, "The International Community," starts swinging it's dick.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2023 01:56 PM (rc3Z7)

Too late. Israel's unpreparedness has already bit them in the ass. Their response should have been within a few hours of the attack. They did this to themselves mostly. They knew from past wars what the world's response was going to be.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at October 19, 2023 02:15 PM (BdMk6)

324 288 I have seen analysis that suggests that an air-burst bomb was dropped by Israel. I make no claim for accuracy can verify these statements, and have no dog in this fight. Discernment and perception are keys to understanding this event."

That's idiotic, and you're an idiot for pushing something this stupid. Did you forget that there's several video recordings of the explosion, showing a large flaming explosion on the ground? That's not what an air-burst bomb looks like at all, you lying cretin.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 19, 2023 02:15 PM (i9ffA)

325 I thought Tunisia was one of the more laid-back Muslim countries.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 02:15 PM (JrojV)

326 Joran van der Sloot confessed to killing 18-year-old Natalee Holloway on a beach in Aruba and dumping her body into the sea. His chilling admission was part of a plea deal for extortion and fraud charges stemming from the teen's 2005 disappearance.

Posted by: SMOD



So he's going to get a sweetheart sentencing for some non-murder criminal charges by admitting to capital murder?

Boy, that's some high quality defence lawyerin' goin' on right there!

Posted by: Sharkman at October 19, 2023 02:16 PM (yayb5)

327 325 I thought Tunisia was one of the more laid-back Muslim countries.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 02:15 PM (JrojV)

Yes, and that is disturbing, eh?

Posted by: tubal at October 19, 2023 02:16 PM (PCK5/)

328 Husky whining.

Posted by: DaveA at October 19, 2023 02:17 PM (FhXTo)

329 The US better not fuck around with Israel, or we might see another USS Liberty incident.

The USS Gerald Ford is available as a stand-in.

It is right and proper and moral to support Israel, and to vigorously oppose Hamas and their supporters, everywhere.

Plus, Divine Providence will smite us.

There's that.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 19, 2023 02:17 PM (ufFY8)

330 Q. How many times do you have to be lied to by Hamas such that you don't immediately take Hamas's word for something?

A. We're journalists. We tell stories our readers want to hear. And to be honest for once, we like what Hamas tells us, it fits into our world view. And what is Truth, anyway?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 19, 2023 02:17 PM (fs1hN)

331 327 325 I thought Tunisia was one of the more laid-back Muslim countries.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 02:15 PM (JrojV)

Yes, and that is disturbing, eh?
Posted by: tubal at October 19, 2023 02:16 PM (PCK5/)

They only try to murder Jews and Christians on Tuesdays and Thursdays, the rest of the week they take it easy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 19, 2023 02:18 PM (i9ffA)

332 Joran van der Sloot looks like a Hollywood extra stock villain/thug…

Posted by: tubal at October 19, 2023 02:18 PM (PCK5/)

333 thought Tunisia was one of the more laid-back Muslim countries.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2023 02:15 PM (JrojV)

Sorry, no such thing. As we've repeatedly seen over the years any muzzie country can turn violent on the whimsious of lies.

Posted by: Beartooth at October 19, 2023 02:19 PM (E5KZ+)

334 It's not the dog in the fight it's the fight in the dog.

Posted by: Down home sayings at October 19, 2023 02:19 PM (63Dwl)

335 I’m curious … doesn’t being a “XX-American” make you a colonizer from XX

African-American is then a colonizer from Africa
etc

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2023 02:19 PM (RHGPo)

336 And what is Truth, anyway?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 19, 2023 02:17 PM (fs1hN)

That's what I said!

Posted by: Pontius Pilate at October 19, 2023 02:19 PM (ufFY8)

337 To be less sympathetic, media outlets need to be a lot better about admitting when they fucked up, though.

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There aren't enough hours in the day.

Posted by: SH (no more socks) at October 19, 2023 02:19 PM (sX1BW)

338 Willowed:

Bidens ramble on AF1 is him feeling good about himself after giving 100M away and visiting war zone.

They love me. They really, truly love me.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at October 19, 2023 02:19 PM (FxH7T)

339 One hot dogee you shall havee !

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff in solidarity with the struggle to maintain Moron standards at October 19, 2023 02:20 PM (0fIkm)

340 Considering "news sources" in the MidEast, I thought this historic video would be worth posting:

https://youtu.be/Ym8Zc76vkOs?

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2023 02:21 PM (njWTi)

341 Did you forget that there's several video recordings of the explosion, showing a large flaming explosion on the ground? That's not what an air-burst bomb looks like at all, you lying cretin.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 19, 2023 02:15 PM (i9ffA)


Sooper Sekrit Joo Airburst Bomb which is fired as a rocket from the opposite direction, hits the ground, and acts in all respects like a larger, air-burst bomb.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at October 19, 2023 02:21 PM (uvymP)

342 Discernment and perception are keys to understanding this event.

lol

Posted by: Discernment and perception are needed to understand things, guys! at October 19, 2023 02:21 PM (6z4VY)

343 You know if Biden had given Israel $100M for bounty on Hamas ears things would have made sense and the problem would be solved by entrepreneurs. Peace in Our Time and Stimulus. I would have mandated that every Israeli should be armed as well - it being a Civil Right.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 02:21 PM (cbj46)

344
Joran van der Sloot looks like a Hollywood extra stock villain/thug…

Posted by: tubal at October 19, 2023 02:18 PM


At least he'll spend the rest of his life behind bars. First Peru (iirc) then back here for another 25. Pretty sure his clock runs out well before he finishes here. Why that girl ever got in a car with him I'll never be able to figure out, but I'm sure alcohol was involved.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2023 02:22 PM (enJYY)

345 Hamas is like Maxwell Smart.

Muhammad Smart: Israel Devils level hospital with air strike killing over 500 women and children.

Israel : What ? Impossible

Muhammad Smart : Would you believe an air burst bomb over a parking lot killing a 100 ?

Posted by: Drive by at October 19, 2023 02:22 PM (MNhXM)

346 The best was that the Islamic Jihad missile fell into a parking lot that couldn't possibly have held 500 people .. maybe 200 if you removed the cars.
Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2023 01:27 PM (RHGPo)

Cars are people too!!!!

Posted by: Just Lily at October 19, 2023 02:23 PM (2Sd5X)

347 I assume we saw this already:

@ChayaRaichik10
The White House IG posted images of the special forces team without blurring their faces before eventually deleting it only after thousands already saw it.

This is what happens when you value diversity over competence in your hiring process. Everyone involved in that post decision should be fired.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2023 02:23 PM (IG4Id)

348 Brighteon News: It has all the hallmarks of an Israeli air burst. Probably committed by all those Jews who stayed home on 9/11.

Wait. Did we give ourselves away? Should we add something about not having a dog in this fight?

Posted by: Wally at October 19, 2023 02:23 PM (hqVaF)

349 I thought Tunisia was one of the more laid-back Muslim countries.
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Yeah. Well, the Jews bombed a hospital. The BBC and CNN said so too not just Al Jazeera!
/sarc

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 19, 2023 02:25 PM (krqg6)

350 Would you believe a firecracker that killed a cockroach?

Posted by: Muhammad Smart at October 19, 2023 02:25 PM (63Dwl)

351 Hamas is like Maxwell Smart.

Muhammad Smart: Israel Devils level hospital with air strike killing over 500 women and children.

Israel : What ? Impossible

Muhammad Smart : Would you believe an air burst bomb over a parking lot killing a 100 ?
Posted by: Drive by


Israel: no

Muhammad Smart: How about a Roman candle and a minor burn on my face?

Posted by: Hour of the Wolf at October 19, 2023 02:25 PM (mNmNo)

352 This is what happens when you value diversity over competence in your hiring process. Everyone involved in that post decision should be fired.
-------------------
No. This is a message from the CinC that he wants to castrate his elite warriors and get them killed. Pretty simple.

Posted by: Pudinhead at October 19, 2023 02:26 PM (cbj46)

353 Inflation is down to 3% per Biden. Sure, Jan.
Went to lunch at a place I go to regularly. The $10.99 sandwich is now $11.99. It was $9.99 earlier this year.

3% baby!!

Posted by: Montec at October 19, 2023 02:26 PM (ZJs13)

354 "This is what happens when you value diversity over competence in your hiring process. Everyone involved in that post decision should be fired."

Funny that you think this wasn't intentional.

Posted by: Kitchener Lesley at October 19, 2023 02:28 PM (CgQvH)

355 Noodles.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 19, 2023 02:28 PM (N3zMI)

356 NOOD ACADEMIA, ETC

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2023 02:28 PM (d04cU)

357 Inflation is down to 3% per Biden. Sure, Jan.
Went to lunch at a place I go to regularly. The $10.99 sandwich is now $11.99. It was $9.99 earlier this year.

3% baby!!
Posted by: Montec at October 19, 2023 02:26 PM (ZJs13)

8oz filet went up $4 at Outback . 14%

Posted by: Drive by at October 19, 2023 02:28 PM (MNhXM)

358 "This is what happens when you value diversity over competence in your hiring process. Everyone involved in that post decision should be fired."


*types* *deletes*

Posted by: JQ at October 19, 2023 02:29 PM (njWTi)

359 They want to believe Israel did it, so they do.

Posted by: steevy at October 19, 2023 02:29 PM (FQmDC)

360
Aruba let Joran van der Sloot destroy their tourist industry when a simple 12 volt battery attached to his testicular units could have had him singing like a bird within minutes.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2023 02:30 PM (enJYY)

361 Nate Silver thinks since he’s a “good Jew” he will be spared by Hamas and their cheerleaders.

Posted by: Montec at October 19, 2023 02:30 PM (ZJs13)

362 330 Q. How many times do you have to be lied to by Hamas such that you don't immediately take Hamas's word for something?

...

This is so racist

Posted by: TexasDan at October 19, 2023 02:30 PM (Y5tKE)

363 I was listening to MIT Radio, 88.1 FM in Cambridge
and believe it or not, they already have a protest song
about this war. It's by the band: Jamaica Plain and called Run.
I could not find any information about the song. Jamaica Plain is a band made up of several community activists throughout the are.

I'm sure they had to get this song out for the masses, while the spirit of revolution was in the air.

Posted by: Mister Ghost at October 19, 2023 02:30 PM (TGPs7)

364 How many guys in Vietnam said "sorry about that"? Also, Don Adams, Maxwell Smart was wounded and diseased at Guadalcanal and when sent stateside was a Drill Instructor at MCRD San Diego.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 19, 2023 02:33 PM (0EOe9)

365
Some people may have done some things.
Mistakes may have been made.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
It's time to move on.
Always support the Approved Narrative (tm) of the moment. Always!

Posted by: MSM (D-Everywhere) at October 19, 2023 02:34 PM (a3Q+t)

366
American military in Israel and Ukraine are there in the role of advisors, so no worries about pics, background information or families' home addresses in the states is necessary.

Posted by: Auspex at October 19, 2023 02:34 PM (j4U/Z)

367 nood

Posted by: andycanuck (krqg6) at October 19, 2023 02:39 PM (krqg6)

368 "Casualties" at the Hospital, They claim 500 dad, but also claim "Over 350" rushed to the Other Hospital, sooo...850 "victims", from a Parking lot that doesn't even have 20 parking spots.
PS...they call it a Palestinian Hospital, and an Arab hospital, but the wall hangings and decorations inside are Christian Crosses and Images.
BECAUSE it was originally founded by the Church of England in 1882, was taken over by the Southern Baptist Church in 1954-1982, Since then it has been funded and operated by the Episcopal church in Jerusalem

BY THE WAY...The hospital only has 80 beds. It is primarily a diagnostic center not an in patient facility.
At 7:30 pm Oct 14th it was damaged by a stray rocket, causing minor injuries to 4 staffers in the mammography and ultrasound units on the upper floor, photos released at the time show a hole in the wall approx 3ft in diameter, and a dusty room, no explosion occurred, no fire...it was closed the next day...and had been empty for the three days prior to the explosion. Though still Lighted, Hospitals an UN Facilities are the ONLY places in Gaza with lights on.

Posted by: birddog at October 19, 2023 03:21 PM (1E8/t)

369 My previous comments sure sparked discussion. For the Record:

I am NOT MUSLIM, I am a Spirit-Filled Bible Believing Christian.

I support Israel, I work for an Israeli Company as an employee.

Anyone who wants to check me out, go right on ahead. I put this previous post in here to get other's takes on this event. Many have spoken loudly in opposition. So be it.

I have owned a German Shepherd for 36 years (on #4 currently) so I LOVE DOGS as they are God's gift to men.

Posted by: MJSOH at October 19, 2023 04:06 PM (6u/2z)

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