California Is Confused

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Sandra Salzar

Three Holidays This Weekend!

On September 17, 1787, the delegates to the Constitutional Convention met for the last time to sign the document they had created. We encourage all Americans to observe this important day in our nation's history by attending local events in your area. Celebrate Constitution Day through activities, learning, parades and demonstrations of our Love for the United State of America and the Blessings of Freedom Our Founding Fathers secured for us.

The National Constitution Center will be observing Constitution Day on Monday. In case you needed a reason to take some kids out of school for a special learning experience. Some adults could use a little education about the Constitution, too!

Which part of the Constitution seems most endangered to you right now?

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Today is Mexican Independence Day.

This celebration is characterized by the performance of "El Grito de Dolores" -- "grito" meaning battle cry -- inspired in the early morning of Sept. 16, 1810, when the Catholic priest Don Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla rang the bells of his parish and called on the Mexican population to take up arms against the Spanish authorities in a fight that would last 11 years.

I'm seeing Halloween stuff in the store. Constitution Day and Mexican Independence Day decorations? Not so much.

My Spanish is not very good, but El Grito de Dolores sounds to me a lot like "the cry of struggle and suffering" or something like that. And the start of an eleven year war sounds kind of grim. Maybe that's why Cinco de Mayo is more popular in the USA. Shorter battle.

Anyway, there may be something to learn from the Mexicans' declaration of independence from Spain that could be applicable today. What do you think?

And yesterday was Salvadoran Independence Day. Even less recognized.

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Today is the second day of Rosh Hashanah. So Happy New Year to all the Jewish members of The Horde, lurkers and other Jewish readers!

Rosh Hashanah, the Jewish New Year, is one of Judaism's holiest days. Meaning "head of the year" or "first of the year," the festival begins on the first day of Tishrei, the seventh month of the Hebrew calendar, which falls during September or October. Rosh Hashanah commemorates the creation of the world and marks the beginning of the Days of Awe, a 10-day period of introspection and repentance that culminates in the Yom Kippur holiday, also known as the Day of Atonement. Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur are the two "High Holy Days" in the Jewish religion.
Rosh Hashanah 2023 begins on Friday, September 15, 2023, and ends on the evening of Sunday, September 17, 2023.

A holiday which could inspire reflection for a lot of people.

California Is Confused

San Francisco may not have been the best environment for Colin Kaepernick, who now wants to return to slavery for the NFL:

This clip portrays a nation sunken into self-parody https://t.co/ChL2lwtKUL
— Wesley Yang (@wesyang) September 13, 2023

California and National Issues

Sometimes I think that the California legislature is trying to help Gavin Newsom seem presidential by working with him, and sometimes I think they are trying to help him by acting crazier than him. They have been busy.

Second Amendment

BetaCuck4Lyfe alerted us to this story yesterday in a comment thread:

California lawmakers want US Constitution to raise gun-buying age to 21.

California lawmakers have approved a resolution proposed by Gov. Gavin Newsom calling for a convention to add an amendment to the U.S. Constitution related to gun control.
In June, Newsom proposed a 28th Amendment, which would raise the minimum age to purchase a gun from 18 to 21, require universal background checks, institute a reasonable waiting period for all gun purchases, and bar civilians from purchasing assault weapons.
Newsom's proposal, approved Thursday, faces a difficult road ahead. Amending the Constitution requires either two-thirds of state legislatures to call for a convention, also called an Article V Convention or amendatory convention, or a two-thirds majority vote in both houses of Congress . .

Ambitious.

COVID

California quietly disavows medical misinformation law before courts can strike it down

California's COVID-19 medical misinformation law, which threatens the licenses of doctors who deviate from a fluctuating "scientific consensus" in conversations with patients, got a frosty reception in front of trial and appeals courts this year.
Signed into law by Democrat Gov. Gavin Newsom nearly a year ago, AB 2098 may not exist by the time judges get around to deciding its constitutionality.
A provision to repeal the law was apparently added to Senate Bill 815, which makes changes to the Medical Board of California, in late August or early September with the legislative session winding down. Nobody seems to know, or is willing to say, how it got there.

They still seem to want to interfere in the patient/doctor relationship, however.

Travel

Via J.J. Sefton: California Officially Gives Up on Travel Bans to Conservative States

Newsom must travel after all.

Today Governor Newsom received a bipartisan rebuke from Congress. The House passed H.R. 1435 to stop his plan to ban gas-powered vehicles.

California already has the highest fuel prices, highest electricity rates, highest cost of living, highest poverty rate, and highest…
— Kevin Kiley (@KevinKileyCA) September 14, 2023

A lot of people are avoiding travel to San Francisco. For this reason and others.

LGBTQ etx. issues

Gavin Newsom faces slate of transgender bills targeting parental rights

California's legislature has taken major steps to institutionalize hiding child transgender identity from parents in a slate of bills headed to Gov. Gavin Newsom's (D-CA) desk.
One or both houses of the Golden State legislature have overwhelmingly passed five separate bills aimed at both hiding childhood proclamations of transgender identity from parents and punishing them for not "affirming" the child through social and medical interventions.

Will Newsom act as a presidential-type "voice of reason" here, or not? The bill he signed and promoted last year is not a hopeful sign. It affects parents in all states.

Last week's bill:

Would you in your wildest dreams ever have conceived of a headline like this ten years ago? pic.twitter.com/1pwF5ibrif
— James Woods (@RealJamesWoods) September 12, 2023

This week's bill:

BREAKING: The California legislature just passed another insane LGBT bill.
SB 407 requires Foster families to sign a document demonstrating their understanding "that sexual orientation, gender identity and expression can evolve over time" and provide "all services to LGBTQ+ children."
Basically, it requires foster parents pledge allegiance to the rainbow flag cult in order to be a part of the state's foster system and essentially bans parents with Christian conservative views.

That "evolve over time" bit bears some thought.

Who is fighting back?

The woman in this interview, Erin Friday, a mother and attorney, has started an organization to help parents surprised by the "evolution" to a trans identity in a child. Her own daughter decided that she was pansexual after a lesson about the "genderbread person", then her identity changed to trans. Mom helped her come back to reality.

Erin Friday's daughter was introduced to gender identity ideology in a comprehensive sex-ed class in seventh grade. "The seed was planted after that class," Friday says. "And in fact, all of her friends, there were five, sat in my front yard saying what their new labels were."
Friday says she was "alarmed by the language that they were using, including 'pansexual,' which is not a term that 11-year-olds should know."
The mother began looking into what her daughter was learning in school and was struck by the fact that other adults were not also questioning the teaching of gender ideology to middle schoolers.When her daughter said she was "transgender," Friday began taking decisive steps to rescue her from transgenderism. She took her daughter's phone, put her in a new school, and tried her best to surround the preteen with the truth about who she was as a female.
It was not easy, but Friday says, as a parent, "you have to be strong enough, your love for your child has to be strong enough, to take their vitriol." After about a year and a half, Friday's daughter stopped claiming a transgender identity.
Today, through the work of the parental support group Our Duty, (OurDuty.group) Friday is helping other families navigate through gender identity ideology.

There is a nice break-out of topics under the video at the YouTube link. She has been testifying against various bills in California, and notes that each bill is a stepping stone to the next. The first one she testified against concerned secrecy by insurance companies when parents paid for adult childrens' mastectomies, etc.

Other notes: More school counselors are now a bad thing in California due to ideological capture. It is safer to protest transgender issues than it used to be. The internet is dangerous to kids.

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Weekend

There a new interview up with Thomas Sowell. If you have some time this weekend.

And a little history lesson:

There it is, the best community note you’re ever gonna see https://t.co/KnWiyhUYcK
— Oilfield Rando (@Oilfield_Rando) September 14, 2023

Or as John Hayward might say

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Music

Any other states have more songs written about them than California?

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Thinking a Second Time

Here's the link to last week's thread, September 9, Come Back, Australia!

Topics included the effects of social media on young people, the degradation in scientific journals as it related to gender studies and "green energy" and some people who are starting to fight back. Incidentally, even the Australian government seems to be coming around to some nuance concerning COVID boosters. Compared to our own government.

The last comment of last week's thread was by madmike.

A friend just returned from a month driving around Australia. He was last there just before the Covid fiasco. He said the changes there were astonishing in that short period. The Australian people seem to have completely caved to the gay and trans ideology with free speech under greater attack than even the UK or US. It seemed to dimish the further he got from the large cities but was still present in some ways until he was in very small towns.
Really sad. I have a cousin near Sydney but haven't been there in over 20 years. I was contemplating a trip until I talked with my friend, probably won't waste my time now.

I wonder if the changes have been faster in Australia or Canada? This is creepy.

Weird that Canada is moving ahead so forcefully with transitioning kids while most of Europe is backing off "affirmative care" due to lack of scientific support for its safety and efficacy.

Bill C-4 made it a criminal offense to try to help a child feel comfortable with their sex. It’s totally acceptable under the law to convince a girl she is a boy, send her into teenaged menopause with puberty blockers, give her testosterone which will require a hysterectomy, cut… pic.twitter.com/sQQsF83eWT
— Billboard Chris 🇨🇦🇺🇸 (@BillboardChris) September 15, 2023

O Canada!

Don't be like California. Australia, same advice.

Comments are closed on last week's thread so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:15 AM

Comments

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1 Gravy IS a beverage!

Posted by: ZYAHMA BRYANT at September 16, 2023 11:20 AM (2znMt)

2 3

Posted by: doug at September 16, 2023 11:25 AM (8/lc0)

3 Sometimes I wonder if I'm transitioning. Into a curmudgeon, a perpetual cynic.

And then these things are summarized, the whole of the world is engaged in this insanity, and I feel at least a small bit of comfort knowing it's not me. I didn't transition at all. The world has.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 11:29 AM (isMb/)

4 100 days till Christmas

Posted by: SMOD at September 16, 2023 11:30 AM (RovqD)

5 things didn't end too well for Hidalgo.

From Wiki:

"He served in a church in Colima and then in Dolores. After his arrival, he was shocked by the rich soil he had found. He tried to help the poor by showing them how to grow olives and grapes, but in New Spain (modern Mexico) growing these crops was discouraged or prohibited by colonial authorities to prevent competition with imports from Spain. On 16 September 1810 he gave the Cry of Dolores, a speech calling upon the people to protect the interest of their King Ferdinand VII, held captive during the Peninsular War, by revolting against the European-born Spaniards who had overthrown the Spanish Viceroy José de Iturrigaray."

...continued

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:32 AM (ynpvh)

6 "He marched across Mexico and gathered an army of nearly 90,000 poor farmers and Mexican civilians who attacked Spanish Peninsular and Criollo elites. Hidalgo's troops lacked training and were poorly armed. These troops ran into an army of well-trained and armed Spanish troops in the Battle of Calderón Bridge and were defeated.[6] After the battle, Hidalgo and his remaining troops fled north, but Hidalgo was betrayed, captured and executed. "

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:32 AM (ynpvh)

7 Sad news about Poilievre. Just incredible the intoxicating power of this transgender madness. It took that mother a year and a half to de-brainwash her child, all the while facing nothing but resistance and vitriol. Marx stands out as arguably the most diabolical figure in history.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 16, 2023 11:32 AM (tf4XU)

8 Good morning KT!

Nice amount of girth to this thread.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 16, 2023 11:33 AM (msr2a)

9 Libya gets better:

Barack Obama on Twitter:

If you’re looking to help people impacted by the floods in Libya, check out these organizations providing relief:

The Obama Foundation on Twitter:

Emergency and relief workers are on the ground providing urgent aid in the aftermath of the catastrophic flash floods in northeast Libya.

The toll of this natural disaster is unimaginable, and support is desperately needed.

Now that Obama destroyed the Libyan state, resulting in the collapse of its infrastructure and massive flooding, could you please send money to the Obama Foundation, so that the Obamas and their toadies can get a cut of the aid money?

Please give generously.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2023 11:33 AM (2tUFv)

10 Come to Texas. We're still considered America, for the time being. And we're not as screwed up as a lot of other places.

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 11:33 AM (z3WCn)

11 Breitbart joked about the parents who send their child off to one of the best colleges in the country with hugs, kisses and a mini-fridge and he returns home for Thanksgiving hating them and America.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 16, 2023 11:35 AM (tf4XU)

12 We encourage all Americans to observe this important day in our nation's history by attending local events in your area.

Huh?
I don't think anyone around here know of this.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 11:36 AM (uSHSS)

13 Colin Kaepernick's agent has reached out to the Jets about his desire to make an NFL return, via @Schultz_Report

He's a little old to be a ball boy. How about water boy?

Posted by: NY Jets at September 16, 2023 11:36 AM (CaJIi)

14 California might want to revisit their law making thief legal before wasting money on more enforcement.
Unless they authorize lethal force the get-out-of-arrest-free laws will continue to encourage all thieves.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 16, 2023 11:38 AM (msr2a)

15 Around here more will be celebrating Mexican Independence Day than Constitution day.
Won't be long before they start advoyfor the Rejoining to Mexico.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 11:38 AM (uSHSS)

16 3 - Yes, BurtTC… it does seem like big chunks of the world have taken the plunge into insanity. I find it incredibly sad. It’s happened amazingly fast… acceleration started around 2009 I think. What do you suppose changed that year?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 16, 2023 11:39 AM (xT8gx)

17 Basically, it requires foster parents pledge allegiance to the rainbow flag cult in order to be a part of the state's foster system and essentially bans parents with Christian conservative views.

It is fascinating how the left has become a carciture of those evillllll Puritans - from rigidly enforcing their religion to online auto da fe...

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at September 16, 2023 11:39 AM (XqcwY)

18 I wonder if the changes have been faster in Australia or Canada? This is creepy.

It interesting that the trans ideology has made far more progress in English-speaking counties than non-English-speaking countries. (For example, non-English-speaking European countries are far more skeptical of "medical transitioning".)

Turns out having a common language is not an advantage sometimes.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2023 11:40 AM (2tUFv)

19 After the battle, Hidalgo and his remaining troops fled north, but Hidalgo was betrayed, captured and executed. "
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:32 AM (ynpvh)

Isn't this basically the same thing that always happens with these so-called mexican historical events? They end in disaster, betrayal, and farce.

I mean, same here, but it took us more than 200 years to reach this point.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 11:41 AM (1xjGZ)

20 Which part of the Constitution seems most endangered to you right now?

Yes.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at September 16, 2023 11:41 AM (s1aIn)

21 California lawmakers have approved a resolution proposed by Gov. Gavin Newsom calling for a convention to add an amendment to the U.S. Constitution related to gun control.

Now I'm confused. Just last week I was told that all that was required was for a governor to say the word "emergency." Now they're admitting that it needs a constitutional amendment?

Posted by: Oddbob at September 16, 2023 11:41 AM (/RZ63)

22 Manumitted?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 16, 2023 11:44 AM (63Dwl)

23 Won't be long before they start advoyfor the Rejoining to Mexico.
Posted by: Diogenes

La Rasa has been trying to get all of the former US Spanish areas reunited to Mexico for as long as I remember.
They changed their name because too many people figured out their shtick some years ago.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 16, 2023 11:44 AM (msr2a)

24 19 After the battle, Hidalgo and his remaining troops fled north, but Hidalgo was betrayed, captured and executed. "
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:32 AM (ynpvh)

Isn't this basically the same thing that always happens with these so-called mexican historical events? They end in disaster, betrayal, and farce.

I mean, same here, but it took us more than 200 years to reach this point.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 11:41 AM (1xjGZ)

Here's an interesting note, though:
"Hidalgo established an alternative government in Guadalajara with himself at the head and appointed two ministers. On 6 December 1810, Hidalgo issued a decree abolishing slavery, threatening those who did not comply with death. He abolished tribute payments that indigenous peoples had to pay to criollo and peninsular lords. ...He named Pascacio Ortiz de Letona as representative of the insurgent government and sent him to the United States to seek support, but Ortiz de Letona was apprehended by the Spanish army and executed."

Would things have changed if the US had gotten involved? With Hidalgo's stance on Slavery, US might not have.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

25 Will Newsom act as a presidential-type "voice of reason" here, or not?

If Newsom thinks that he is running for President, he won't sign the bill. If not, he will.

Newsom already has launched well-publicized efforts to crack down on rampant shoplifting and homelessness - he realizes that if he runs, the current condition of California is going to be a problem for him.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2023 11:45 AM (2tUFv)

26 "I'm not going to sign this gun restriction amendment!"
"Think of the likes you'll get on Twitter. And you can sign on tactic!"
"Have you got a pen?"

Posted by: Beckoningchasm phone at September 16, 2023 11:46 AM (YJENo)

27 Yes, BurtTC… it does seem like big chunks of the world have taken the plunge into insanity. I find it incredibly sad. It’s happened amazingly fast… acceleration started around 2009 I think. What do you suppose changed that year?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 16, 2023 11:39 AM (xT8gx)

I find it too difficult to go down the rabbit hole and find starting points for this stuff. I think that's fine, to place the point there for any number of social ills that were created when the nation elected those people.

But if we're talking about national elections, the nation sold its soul after 9/11, and the Bush admin introduced the Patriot Act into our lives, which were instrumental in destroying many of our freedoms.

And before that, Team Clinton did quite a lot to destroy the national consensus on any number of moral issues. And before that, we had Roe v. Wade, and before that, the EPA, and before that, Vietnam, and so on and so on and so on. I can't find any real starting point.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 11:46 AM (fQt19)

28 Also, Spain had been a ally during the Revolutionalry war. Louisiana purchase had been less than a decade earlier. So dunno.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:47 AM (ynpvh)

29

Protesters at drag storytimes across Canada call performances 'destructive,' say they sexualize children

https://tinyurl.com/mrxw2hzw

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 16, 2023 11:47 AM (63Dwl)

30 Newsom already has launched well-publicized efforts to crack down on rampant shoplifting and homelessness - he realizes that if he runs, the current condition of California is going to be a problem for him.
Posted by: The ARC

Thankfully he is damaged goods.
His covid antics as well as his destruction of California's economy while governor will be his millstone (thankfully!).

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 16, 2023 11:49 AM (msr2a)

31 You go, Hillary!

'I'm all in': Hillary Clinton on why she says Biden should run for re-election

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2023 11:49 AM (2tUFv)

32 Howdy all

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 11:50 AM (fwDg9)

33 100 days till Christmas

Since Leviathan has made Juneteenth and other bogus observations into Holidays, has perverted June into Pr0n and D3viancy Month, I'm of the opinion that no government employee is worthy of observing Thanksgiving and Christmas, and should plan on "working" those days as they do any other one.

This goes for government schools too. If you are so irresponsible and depraved a parent to condemn your child to government indoctrination at one of their kennels, then you are not worthy to observe Thanksgiving and Christmas too.

Slap a mask on your spawn, give them their next booster and send them off to be decivilized.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 16, 2023 11:52 AM (p8A+W)

34 When, DeSantis runs for President, he can point to the current condition of the state of Florida.

If Newsom runs for President, he will have to do everything possible to avoid pointing to the current condition of the state of California.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2023 11:52 AM (2tUFv)

35 23 Won't be long before they start advoyfor the Rejoining to Mexico.
Posted by: Diogenes

La Rasa has been trying to get all of the former US Spanish areas reunited to Mexico for as long as I remember.
They changed their name because too many people figured out their shtick some years ago.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 16, 2023 11:44 AM (msr2a)

Besides, "La Raza" means "The Race". Sounds rather...KKK, doesn't it?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:52 AM (ynpvh)

36 Reee! Follow the science!

The science: The draft controversially concluded that N95 face masks are equivalent to looser, surgical face masks in certain settings — and that doctors and nurses need to wear only surgical masks when treating patients infected by “common, endemic” viruses, like those that cause the seasonal flu.

Reee! The science doesn't know what it is talking about! N95 will save us all! Emotions!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 16, 2023 11:55 AM (AIHDh)

37 Now that Obama destroyed the Libyan state, resulting in the collapse of its infrastructure and massive flooding, could you please send money to the Obama Foundation, so that the Obamas and their toadies can get a cut of the aid money?

Please give generously.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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How else will you finance your attempt to beat Hillbot to the search for Khadaffi's Gold.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:55 AM (5jVrT)

38 Also, while I'm in a cranky mood...

After spending nearly three hours this morning do yard work with the neighbor's damned dog barking during the whole time (starting at 0630 - before sunrise)

I've come to the inescapable conclusion that if anyone has a dog door installed anywhere on their house, that is prima facie evidence that they are a bad neighbor and even worse dog owner.

A dog door is what a lazy and irresponsible person does to shirk off disciplining their dog, failing to ever take their dog out for a walk, just letting the little feral beast do whatever they want.

Adding that to the growing pamphlet: "How to Spot A Shit Neighbor" for prospective home buyers.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 16, 2023 11:55 AM (p8A+W)

39 Which part of the Constitution seems most endangered to you right now?

The 10th Amendment is the most important, and the most ignored.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 16, 2023 11:56 AM (edDpS)

40 Newsom already has launched well-publicized efforts to crack down on rampant shoplifting and homelessness - he realizes that if he runs, the current condition of California is going to be a problem for him.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2023 11:45 AM (2tUFv)

Another one of those things that would be hard to predict, at what point does he pivot? When does he stop being Governor of the State of Insanity, and when does he become the "sensible" Democrat who just wants to help everybody.

I don't know if they're going to remove Biden/Hairyass, and put him in there, but if they do get rid of those two idiots, Newsome's the most reasonable choice. And anyone who think the insanity of Californica is going to hold him back, I don't know what to tell you. His persona will change as needed.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 11:56 AM (twpKt)

41 Will be interesting to see how much of this survives the economic downturn. I expect college enrollments to be down. I watched a video that said only abou 500,000 folks are currently paying on their student loans. Interest on those is starting back up and he said the average loan payment is $400 a month.

https://youtu.be/H2Yt3rJSv2M?si=usuD4Rh5Efrgn6df

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 16, 2023 11:57 AM (Ds/Wi)

42 Freedom of Speech absolutist.

Right here.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 16, 2023 11:57 AM (43xH1)

43 Find a way for the friendly neighborhood raccoon to use the doggy door.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 16, 2023 11:57 AM (AIHDh)

44 3 Sometimes I wonder if I'm transitioning. Into a curmudgeon, a perpetual cynic.

And then these things are summarized, the whole of the world is engaged in this insanity, and I feel at least a small bit of comfort knowing it's not me. I didn't transition at all. The world has.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Clown world pretty much summarizes it. And no, I have never liked clowns.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 11:58 AM (5jVrT)

45 Also, Spain had been a ally during the Revolutionalry war. Louisiana purchase had been less than a decade earlier. So dunno.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 11:47 AM (ynpvh)

Yeah, there are likely some "details" of that little history lesson there that have been left out. Speculation: To what extent did the U.S. government, in one capacity of another, aid the Spaniards in putting down this little rebellion. People being captured and executed, did the U.S. Army help in those efforts? If so, to what extent?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 11:59 AM (twpKt)

46 I can't find any real starting point.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 11:46 AM (fQt19)

I don’t disagree. There have been several inflection points. The decline has been going on for the entire [mumble-mumble] years of my life. The two most recent inflection points were the election of BO and then covid…. Frightening how quickly western countries (like Australia and Canada… and yes the US) descended into soft tyranny due to the sniffles

To his credit Trump slowed the descent a bit and then… covid. His failures on that have been much commented upon here but honestly I don’t believe anyone else would’ve avoided those mistakes. The bureaucracy and institutions were determined to not let that crisis go to waste…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 16, 2023 11:59 AM (R/Mh9)

47 Adding that to the growing pamphlet: "How to Spot A Shit Neighbor" for prospective home buyers.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 16, 2023 11:55 AM (p8A+W)

I feel ya. I've been ready to unass suburbia. I have some good neighbors, but there just as many shit ones.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 16, 2023 11:59 AM (ANm4C)

48 Constitution Day? During National Hispanic Heritage Month? *gasp*

Posted by: Pearl clutcher at September 16, 2023 12:00 PM (NBVIP)

49 41 Will be interesting to see how much of this survives the economic downturn. I expect college enrollments to be down. I watched a video that said only abou 500,000 folks are currently paying on their student loans. Interest on those is starting back up and he said the average loan payment is $400 a month.

https://youtu.be/H2Yt3rJSv2M?si=usuD4Rh5Efrgn6df
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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Realistically, those loans will never be repaid as such. Same as loans to places like Argentina. The misconception is that most of the loans out there are private loans--something like 80-90 percent of the balance due now is to the fedgov itself, not private guaranteed loans. There are some family loans and odds and ends like Perkins loans (due to schools) that are a bit different.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:01 PM (5jVrT)

50 ..Sometimes I wonder if I'm transitioning. Into a curmudgeon, a perpetual cynic...

Posted by: BurtTC

I'm not so much a cynic, as I am an Optimist With Experience.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 16, 2023 12:02 PM (e6UQI)

51 California(Where I live)has become a total Dictatorship under Newsom the Idiot and this Pea-Brain wants to be President

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at September 16, 2023 12:02 PM (FLiOE)

52 ..Sometimes I wonder if I'm transitioning. Into a curmudgeon, a perpetual cynic...

Posted by: BurtTC

I'm not so much a cynic, as I am an Optimist With Experience.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 16, 2023 12:02 PM (e6UQI)

Pragmatist

Posted by: BignJames at September 16, 2023 12:03 PM (AwYPR)

53 There is iron in the words of LinusVanPelt.

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 12:04 PM (z3WCn)

54 When, DeSantis runs for President, he can point to the current condition of the state of Florida.

If Newsom runs for President, he will have to do everything possible to avoid pointing to the current condition of the state of California.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2023 11:52 AM (2tUFv)

If by some bizarre twist, it is DeSantis v. Newsome next year, Newsome's already put out the narrative. I believe it was shown here at the time, on one of KT's posts.

It won't take much. They'll make the claims, the corporate media, including every social media platform, except perhaps twatter, will overwhelmingly tout the "Cali is better than Fla" theme. Will it resonate? Carry the day? I don't know that it has to. As we know, "elections" don't have to be decided by people voting.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:04 PM (peNgU)

55 Newsom already has launched well-publicized efforts to crack down on rampant shoplifting and homelessness - he realizes that if he runs, the current condition of California is going to be a problem for him.

I disagree. Ballot stuffers don't give a tinker's dam about the character and the outcome of some politician's policies. All they care about is "winning", screwing over the enemy and getting paid. They are betas trying to please some psychopathic maniacs and ballot harvesting and corruption gives them purpose and praise that they are lacking in their real life.

Look at the current junta's figurehead, a scapegoat for all that is both bad and nominally "good". Arguably the most corrupt and Anti-American politician; possibly second place only to Obama.

And large numbers of people, when polled, think nothing negative about his actions toward ending Western Civilization and ushering in a Thousand Years of Darkness.

Now give them Mr Slick, Clinton 2.0 with more tyranny and sadism, and the retards will sweep him in to office even without the massive ballot corruption.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 16, 2023 12:05 PM (p8A+W)

56 A dog door is what a lazy and irresponsible person does to shirk off disciplining their dog, failing to ever take their dog out for a walk, just letting the little feral beast do whatever they want.

*side eye*

I have a dog door on the patio. Best investment I ever made. No, shitty neighbors walk their dogs and don't pick up the poo, and/or let the dogs bark at all hours of the day or night.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 16, 2023 12:06 PM (YRsIm)

57 An Article V convention would be a very bad thing, but since 27 of the states are constitutional carry or permitless carry, it would be impossible for that amendment to pass.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 16, 2023 12:06 PM (lQONO)

58 Newsome will make a great President for the moochers and looters.

Until there is nothing left to mooch or loot.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 16, 2023 12:07 PM (R/m4+)

59 51 California(Where I live)has become a total Dictatorship under Newsom the Idiot and this Pea-Brain wants to be President

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at September 16, 2023 12:02 PM (FLiOE)

Endorsements:

"Newbie...good. night all!"--Fetterman
"..."--Mitch McConnell
"mmpgh. Um. Newsom is a Governor. Of Kalifornia. Kalifornia has a Governor."--Cumala Harris

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:08 PM (ynpvh)

60 I'm not so much a cynic, as I am an Optimist With Experience.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 16, 2023 12:02 PM (e6UQI)

I guess I am too. I continue to believe in individuals, see the good in most people I encounter day to day. I guess it's a matter of the decisions of individuals, to live their lives as they see fit, to what extent does that matter anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:08 PM (peNgU)

61 To his credit Trump slowed the descent a bit and then… covid. His failures on that have been much commented upon here but honestly I don’t believe anyone else would’ve avoided those mistakes. The bureaucracy and institutions were determined to not let that crisis go to waste…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Wudda, shudda, coulda, are in essence a way to scapegoat because we never know what alternative paths could have resulted in. Same as the electibility argument and so on.

Best just to focus on each contest as the lesser of evils---every prezzie is going to make 'mistakes' notice that people are giving G. Washington heck centuries later for his handling of the Whisky Rebellion. And so on. We are still fighting over whether US involvement in WWI or WWII was necessary, and so on.

So in Nov 2024, the question will be Dem or Rep most likely and the proposition will be going off the cliff immediately with the Dems doing their YOLO thing or at a slower pace with the GOP nominee.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:08 PM (5jVrT)

62 57 An Article V convention would be a very bad thing, but since 27 of the states are constitutional carry or permitless carry, it would be impossible for that amendment to pass.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Dems have their failure theater too for cash and prizes. We forget that sometimes.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:09 PM (5jVrT)

63 We had the Neighborhood Dog Shit wars of 2022. Fucking ridiculous people.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 16, 2023 12:09 PM (ANm4C)

64 60 I'm not so much a cynic, as I am an Optimist With Experience.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at September 16, 2023 12:02 PM (e6UQI)

I guess I am too. I continue to believe in individuals, see the good in most people I encounter day to day. I guess it's a matter of the decisions of individuals, to live their lives as they see fit, to what extent does that matter anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:08 PM (peNgU)

What do you call someone that tries to see the good in people, but also prepares for the bad that might also be in people?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:09 PM (ynpvh)

65 I don’t disagree. There have been several inflection points. The decline has been going on for the entire [mumble-mumble] years of my life. The two most recent inflection points were the election of BO and then covid…. Frightening how quickly western countries (like Australia and Canada… and yes the US) descended into soft tyranny due to the sniffles

To his credit Trump slowed the descent a bit and then… covid. His failures on that have been much commented upon here but honestly I don’t believe anyone else would’ve avoided those mistakes. The bureaucracy and institutions were determined to not let that crisis go to waste…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 16, 2023 11:59 AM (R/Mh9)

Yeah, I know you're right, those are the two biggest points in this time frame. What I don't know is where to put a "starting point."

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:10 PM (peNgU)

66 62 57 An Article V convention would be a very bad thing, but since 27 of the states are constitutional carry or permitless carry, it would be impossible for that amendment to pass.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
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Dems have their failure theater too for cash and prizes. We forget that sometimes.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:09 PM (5jVrT)

Who chooses the convention attendees?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:10 PM (ynpvh)

67 63 We had the Neighborhood Dog Shit wars of 2022. Fucking ridiculous people.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 16, 2023 12:09 PM (ANm4C)

Trebuchet vs Catapult?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:11 PM (ynpvh)

68 Thanks to all who helped me with my construction questions in the last thread. It is all much appreciated.

Be well and God bless!

Posted by: 496 at September 16, 2023 12:11 PM (c90Kc)

69 What do you call someone that tries to see the good in people, but also prepares for the bad that might also be in people?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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A pragmatist or realist.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:11 PM (5jVrT)

70 Cthulhu/Pence'24: Why settle for a lesser evil?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 16, 2023 12:13 PM (edDpS)

71 Who chooses the convention attendees?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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States do and Congress sets up the rules for the convention if called. There was an abortive attempt just before the Civil War to call a convention to handle the disagreements by cooler and wiser heads--did not work but you can find the rules of the 1860 proposed convention of the states online in places.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:13 PM (5jVrT)

72 70 Cthulhu/Pence'24: Why settle for a lesser evil?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 16, 2023 12:13 PM (edDpS)

Satan/Hillary'24?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

73 Q: ..What do you call someone that tries to see the good in people, but also prepares for the bad that might also be in people? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:09 PM (ynpvh)

A: A practitioner of the art of Concealed Carry. (I iz one, such.)

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 16, 2023 12:14 PM (e6UQI)

74 Best just to focus on each contest as the lesser of evils---every prezzie is going to make 'mistakes' notice that people are giving G. Washington heck centuries later for his handling of the Whisky Rebellion. And so on.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:08 PM (5jVrT)

Funny you should mention that. I was kinda thinking that might have been the starting point.

And much like the Trump administration, I have a hard time reconciling Washington the man, with the works of people in his administration who were doing things behind his back.

The Deep State was real, all the way back then.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:14 PM (peNgU)

75 I have a dog door on the patio. Best investment I ever made

I get it. Because you don't have to do a damned thing about discipling the dog.

Just lay in chair and watch TV while the dog goes in and out trying to get some form of attention and exercise.

In the case of my neighbor, they have a high energy dog and they are low energy people. There is a very good reason why people take their dogs out for walks. Both parties get much needed exercise and the dog isn't being abused by an absentee owner who has essentially a plush toy that eats, shits and barks.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 16, 2023 12:14 PM (p8A+W)

76 70 Cthulhu/Pence'24: Why settle for a lesser evil?
Posted by: G'rump928(c)
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Cthulu would suck Pence's brain out even before the convention. More likely for Pence to run with Beezulbub as isn't he the Lord of the Flies.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:14 PM (5jVrT)

77 OT: RE: the discussion of cars and working on them . . . I got my brake tag, and the tech there changed the air filter for me for $20. There was a catch: He had to undo a clamp at the *engine* end of the hose as well as loosening the one at the air box end. The video I saw, and the car's owner's manual, did not mention the engine-side clamp at all. With that clamp undone, the box lid lifted off without much trouble; the new filter I bought fit fine; and he clamped everything back down without issue.

If I still have this car in another 70K miles, and can physically do it, maybe I'll be able to change the filter myself. Since I only drive about 9500 miles a year, at least here where the roads are the finest of Third World quality, it could be 2031 before I need to tackle the job.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at September 16, 2023 12:14 PM (omVj0)

78 71 Who chooses the convention attendees?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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States do and Congress sets up the rules for the convention if called. There was an abortive attempt just before the Civil War to call a convention to handle the disagreements by cooler and wiser heads--did not work but you can find the rules of the 1860 proposed convention of the states online in places.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:13 PM (5jVrT)

And what happens if those delegates from Red states get sick and, gosh darnit, can't vote? Are things deadlocked?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:15 PM (ynpvh)

79 In 1810 the new United States had almost no organized armed forces (which became evident during the disastrous War of 1812) so there's no way the US could have helped Hidalgo.

This was the last gasp for the Spanish Army, though - under the weight of the Napoleonic Wars their entire empire would collapse over the following 10 years..

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 12:15 PM (qqUCo)

80 Colin Krapperdick has jumped the shark.

That "slave market" video was hilarious. So all these black millionaire athletes are just like slaves in the old days?

Also, if his I'M REALLY 100% BLACK!! Afro gets any bigger, he's going to have to go through doors sideways, like Garett Morris on SNL.

Posted by: Beverly at September 16, 2023 12:16 PM (Epeb0)

81 What do you call someone that tries to see the good in people, but also prepares for the bad that might also be in people?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:09 PM (ynpvh)

I struggle with that every day, especially when I'm in traffic.

Me, the driver, is viciously critical of the majority of people around me, and how they operate their vehicles. Then after I exit my vehicle, I turn into Mr. Sunshine.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:16 PM (peNgU)

82 81 What do you call someone that tries to see the good in people, but also prepares for the bad that might also be in people?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:09 PM (ynpvh)

I struggle with that every day, especially when I'm in traffic.

Me, the driver, is viciously critical of the majority of people around me, and how they operate their vehicles. Then after I exit my vehicle, I turn into Mr. Sunshine.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:16 PM (peNgU)

I once did a quick mental calc; if 1% of people on the road are assholes (or otherwise having a shitty day), and you drive around an average of 300 or so cars every work day on the freeways, how many shitty drivers do you run into? About 100.
Some peeps are just stupid drivers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:18 PM (ynpvh)

83 95% of these men LARPing as "women" keep the frank and beans.

Eunuch contingent is small.

Posted by: Beverly at September 16, 2023 12:18 PM (Epeb0)

84 Paxton impeachment vote in progress. Reading the votes on count 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrnq5NKDce8

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:18 PM (uvymP)

85 Its always funny when the raccoons come in the dog door. Well maybe not for the homeowners

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 12:18 PM (qqUCo)

86 And much like the Trump administration, I have a hard time reconciling Washington the man, with the works of people in his administration who were doing things behind his back.

The Deep State was real, all the way back then.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Washington was well prepared for it as he survived countless attempts during the Revolutionary War to be undermined by Congress (including the Adams cousins) and lesser officers like Horatio Gates etc. The Conaway Cabel was simply one episode.

Franklin was also fighting his own war against the back biters in the delegation to France.

Lotsa people have ambitions and that can lead to some really awful episodes in human history.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:18 PM (5jVrT)

87 83 95% of these men LARPing as "women" keep the frank and beans.

Eunuch contingent is small.

Posted by: Beverly at September 16, 2023 12:18 PM (Epeb0)

go all in or it doesn't count.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:19 PM (ynpvh)

88 I used to live in California and voted against Gavin Hairgel every time he was on the ballot, even the failed recall a few years ago. People in CA were genuine angry at Newsom for his covid antics and he easily beat that recall. Big surprise to me at the time; I shouldn’t have been surprised. The GOP in CA is absolutely worthless and should just disband for all the good they do (none). I’m reminded of Ron Unz a few decades ago who tried to get elected governor as a libertarian type. Whatever happened to that guy? He was young at the time…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 16, 2023 12:19 PM (R/Mh9)

89 California...

We lived there, in Silicon Valley and on the Central Coast from 2000 - 2013. The state back then was devolving into a petty dictatorship. The state's intrusion into everyday life was rampant. Control over your water use, what trash was acceptable, when and where you could do this, that or the other thing. High fuel costs. High food costs (except for certain, seasonal items grown locally) and massive enforcement of nature/wildlife "protection" laws.

Liberal/radical neighbors were all to eager to turn people in for using the wrong trashcan or watering their lawn on the wrong day. Law enforcement totally disregarded the massive influx of illegals and harassed legal residents for crooked license plates or broken turn signal lights.

It's what the left want for everyone.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2023 12:19 PM (Q4IgG)

90 I, too, applaud the depth and girthiness of the thread. Looking closely one can see that it's properly round, firm, and fully packed.

There's an episode of Emergency! where Gage and DeSoto have to rescue a woman who had locked herself out and was stuck in the doggie door trying to get in.

Posted by: Squad 51 Fan at September 16, 2023 12:19 PM (83IzV)

91 And what happens if those delegates from Red states get sick and, gosh darnit, can't vote? Are things deadlocked?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Dunno. Haven't read the proposed rules but I think it was majority to adopt the text of amendments. But, any document of amendments adopted by a Convention still requires 3/4 of each state's legislature to vote to ratify.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:20 PM (5jVrT)

92 Okay, y'all.

Time for me to vacate the premises. Gotta go sit behind the windshield for a couple hunnert miles, now.

See y'all sometime late into the ONT.

Ciao for Now!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 16, 2023 12:20 PM (e6UQI)

93 George Carlin on driver's- Everyone going faster than me is an idiot! And everyone going slower is a Moron!

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 12:20 PM (qqUCo)

94 Colin Krapperdick has jumped the shark.

That "slave market" video was hilarious. So all these black millionaire athletes are just like slaves in the old days?

Posted by: Beverly at September 16, 2023 12:16 PM (Epeb0)

It's beyond parody. You know every dude in that video was relishing the opportunity to show off his muscles. Nobody forced them to do it, they eagerly lined up to play act at being poked and prodded... just like Kappy and every other prospective NFL player did.

And speaking of being poked and prodded, being forced to stand in line while being scrutinized and judged by those in power, ask me how I know Kappy never served in the military...

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:20 PM (peNgU)

95 84 Paxton impeachment vote in progress. Reading the votes on count 1.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrnq5NKDce8

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:18 PM (uvymP)

All those voting FOR impeachment should be closely investigated...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:20 PM (ynpvh)

96 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 1. Aquitted.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:21 PM (ynpvh)

97 At least 2 Republicans voted to convict. Acquitted on article 1.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:21 PM (uvymP)

98 Greetings from warm and muggy Memphis Tennessee

Feats of strength take place at 4:00est

Burn some incense, sacrifice a chicken, light a candle that my knees hold up, and the referee’s look kindly on an old man.

USA Powerlifting Nationals is about to see the old ‘dog return to the platform.

Serious though, I’m excited to finally be feeling good enough compete again. It’s lots of fun…

Posted by: browndog on his cellphone at September 16, 2023 12:22 PM (kcLcu)

99 I would guess a large number of sexual assaults of women by "womyn" are done by womyn who have their beans and franks...

Posted by: lin-duh at September 16, 2023 12:23 PM (UUBmN)

100 Ron Unz a few decades ago who tried to get elected governor as a libertarian type. Whatever happened to that guy? He was young at the time…
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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Still around with his Unz's Report website or some such. I think it would be best for the GOP in California to commit hari kari and they should develop a new state and sanity based party sort of like how Bavaria in Germany has a national affiliation with the conservative party of that country but have a separate party with its own identity at the state level.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:23 PM (5jVrT)

101 97 At least 2 Republicans voted to convict. Acquitted on article 1.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:21 PM (uvymP)

Bushistas? Or RINOs?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:23 PM (ynpvh)

102 Some peeps are just stupid drivers.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:18 PM (ynpvh)

People around here slow down as they're approaching green lights. And some of them get mad at me when I don't. These are the break-checkers. The people who should consider themselves fortunate I don't have a 50 cal mounted on my hood.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:23 PM (peNgU)

103 Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 16, 2023 12:14 PM (p8A+W)

I have a dog door because it's convenient for the dogs and easy on the a/c. I really don't understand your point about 'discipline'. Going in and out is one thing. Continuously barking is something entirely different.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 16, 2023 12:24 PM (YRsIm)

104 USA Powerlifting Nationals is about to see the old ‘dog return to the platform.

Serious though, I’m excited to finally be feeling good enough compete again. It’s lots of fun…
Posted by: browndog
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Congrats and well wishes to you. Sorry it had to be in Memphis though--stay safe there as it is a most dangerous city.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:24 PM (5jVrT)

105 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 12:24 PM (T4tVD)

106 Id never get a dog door because any door large enough to accommodate my dog would also allow someone the size of an NFL defensive lineman to enter my home.

You'd think that would be a hint to NOT break in, but burglars are seldom smart.

Posted by: PabloD at September 16, 2023 12:24 PM (XXn/t)

107 Breitbart has a story about three people arrested for praying at an abortion clinic. Two of these terrorists /sarc are 72 and 71. DOJ wants 11 years for them.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at September 16, 2023 12:24 PM (lIDr2)

108 Go get 'em browndog.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2023 12:25 PM (ZLI7S)

109 Browndog,
When do you what class do you compete in?

Posted by: lin-duh at September 16, 2023 12:25 PM (UUBmN)

110 it would be impossible for that amendment to pass.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Hold my beer.
~Lib vote stealing every election.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 16, 2023 12:26 PM (Gpc4B)

111 Uncommon Knowledge. PR interviews Thomas Sowell on his new book. I just listened to the whole thing. Most of the ideas are the same but the data is new.

https://youtu.be/pn2gda_phAA

Posted by: Meghan Markle at September 16, 2023 12:26 PM (+o6KZ)

112 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 2. Acquitted.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:26 PM (uvymP)

113 Looks like 14 yea, 16 nay on article 2. Aquitted.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:26 PM (ynpvh)

114 Isn't this basically the same thing that always happens with these so-called mexican historical events? They end in disaster, betrayal, and farce.

Better than disaster, betrayal and farts !

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 12:27 PM (T4tVD)

115 109 Browndog,
When do you what class do you compete in?
Posted by: lin-duh at September 16, 2023 12:25 PM (UUBmN)

Raw Masters 3 (60-69 y/o)
100kg

Posted by: browndog on his cellphone at September 16, 2023 12:27 PM (kcLcu)

116 I occasionally wonder if, when I exhort you to remember we are Americans it IS realized that is part of the heritage of continuing the struggle of our predecessors that ensures our Republic endures.

And that we have, throughout our history, met and prevailed over issues even more serious. It's an ongoing struggle that must never be abandoned.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 16, 2023 12:27 PM (KATBx)

117 Dirty sock ...

Posted by: Meghan Markle at September 16, 2023 12:27 PM (+o6KZ)

118 I guess same 2 repubs again?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:27 PM (ynpvh)

119 Sheesh, I can't type...
What class do you compete in browndog?

Posted by: lin-duh at September 16, 2023 12:27 PM (UUBmN)

120 Lotsa people have ambitions and that can lead to some really awful episodes in human history.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:18 PM (5jVrT)

Indeed. What I suspect doesn't get into the history books much, is the extent to which an aging Washington was not completely in charge of things, especially during his second term.

Among others, both Jefferson and Hamilton basically did what they pleased, and one of the legit criticisms that can be leveled against Jefferson is the extent to which he was in love with the french revolutionaries, and actively conspired with them, while Washington was officially unwilling to align with them.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:28 PM (peNgU)

121 jim in Kalifornia-
We have more rinos and Bushistas in Texas than you'd think, but they don't always win.

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 12:28 PM (z3WCn)

122 I'm out for a bit.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 12:28 PM (ynpvh)

123 I guess you figured it out, good luck!🍀

Posted by: lin-duh at September 16, 2023 12:28 PM (UUBmN)

124 If I still have this car in another 70K miles, and can physically do it, maybe I'll be able to change the filter myself. Since I only drive about 9500 miles a year, at least here where the roads are the finest of Third World quality, it could be 2031 before I need to tackle the job.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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Any vehicle I own, I get a copy of Hayne's Manuals for them. Plenty of pix, basic troubleshooting and maintenance, even error codes if you want to go that far as to get a cheap code reader. Plenty of pictures describing how to replace items or service the vehicle including tricks or tips for certain trickier actions.

They also help keep your service people honest as you can more easily understand when they are trying to pitch bullshit at you.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:28 PM (5jVrT)

125 The ones voting FOR impeachment are the Bush Family Lackeys. That's what this sham "impeachment " was about, revenge by the Bush family for ruining their Golden Boys political career.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 12:29 PM (qqUCo)

126 Texas is full of rinos.

Posted by: lin-duh at September 16, 2023 12:29 PM (UUBmN)

127 USA Powerlifting Nationals is about to see the old ‘dog return to the platform.

Woof, woof! Best of luck to ya.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 16, 2023 12:30 PM (V8he0)

128 Dems do Failure Theatre as part of their daily life, a soap opera to invest their time and energy. GOPe does it to betray their customers and ruin the brand.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 16, 2023 12:30 PM (Eeb9P)

129 108 Go get 'em browndog.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2023 12:25 PM (ZLI7S)

Hey Jack,

Hockey season started last night with the Prospects Challenge

The Sabres kiddies look awfully good

Posted by: browndog on his cellphone at September 16, 2023 12:30 PM (kcLcu)

130 100 - Intelligent and informed as always, Whig. Yeah, the GOP in Cali needs to disappear.

Given what’s going on here in Texas today there’s a certain segment of the Texas GOP that needs to disappear!!

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 16, 2023 12:31 PM (R/Mh9)

131
Good morning, all.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 16, 2023 12:31 PM (lCaJd)

132 Law enforcement totally disregarded the massive influx of illegals and harassed legal residents for crooked license plates or broken turn signal lights.

Victor Davis Hanson detailed that in Mexifornia twenty years ago, where the local authorities in the Central Valley ignored rural favelas being set up in complete violation of fire and safety codes, while imposing huge fines on middle class people for minor violations of administrative rules.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2023 12:32 PM (2tUFv)

133 Good morning KT!

Nice amount of girth to this thread.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 16, 2023 11:33 AM (msr2a)

But you don't mean she's fat, right ?

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 12:32 PM (T4tVD)

134 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 3. Acquitted.

I'm sensing a pattern.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:32 PM (uvymP)

135 >>Hey Jack,

>>Hockey season started last night with the Prospects Challenge

>>The Sabres kiddies look awfully good

I wasn't able to watch but I did see a few clips from the Rangers prospects against the Flyers. Some good young talent there as well. Looking forward to the start of the season.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2023 12:34 PM (ZLI7S)

136 Soon for hockey season. Should be a good year.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 16, 2023 12:34 PM (ANm4C)

137 Indeed. What I suspect doesn't get into the history books much, is the extent to which an aging Washington was not completely in charge of things, especially during his second term.

Among others, both Jefferson and Hamilton basically did what they pleased, and one of the legit criticisms that can be leveled against Jefferson is the extent to which he was in love with the french revolutionaries, and actively conspired with them, while Washington was officially unwilling to align with them.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Jefferson was ambassador to France under the late Articles Congress just as Adams was ambassador to G. Britain. Jefferson even supposedly had a hand in writing the French Declaration of Human Rights but left before the Revolution kicked off. He found the French nobility to be absolutely rotten and profoundly disliked the Brits. Hamilton on the other hand believed that the US should emulate and have closer relations with Britain.

I agree that Washington could do little once Jefferson bailed and made him a Federalist Party target and he unfortunately lost Hamilton due to the scandal in bonds. Most of the rest of his cabinet were place servers.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:34 PM (5jVrT)

138 There is no Haynes for my 2017 Sorento. They stop at 2013

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 16, 2023 12:34 PM (Eeb9P)

139 California lawmakers want US Constitution to raise gun-buying age to 21.

California lawmakers have approved a resolution proposed by Gov. Gavin Newsom calling for a convention to add an amendment to the U.S. Constitution related to gun control.

Being well past the age of 21, I'll go for it provided they raise the voting age to 21 also.

I think it would also have the beneficial effect of somewhat depoliticizing the colleges since left-wing profs would no longer have a captive audience of voters....

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan at September 16, 2023 12:34 PM (QGaXH)

140 Pardon my ignorance but how many articles of 'peachment are they voting on?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 16, 2023 12:35 PM (V8he0)

141 130 100 - Intelligent and informed as always, Whig. Yeah, the GOP in Cali needs to disappear.

Given what’s going on here in Texas today there’s a certain segment of the Texas GOP that needs to disappear!!
Posted by: LinusVanPelt
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The GOP has literally stunk up its brand name--people now still vote for them but more because the Dems are insane than any love for them.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:36 PM (5jVrT)

142 139 - Being well past the age of 21, I'll go for it provided they raise the voting age to 21 also.

Oops - not the assault weapons part - just the age 21 part. Sorry - didn't read the whole thing...

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan at September 16, 2023 12:36 PM (QGaXH)

143 How many articles are there?

Posted by: AnnaS at September 16, 2023 12:36 PM (FnSbk)

144 Afternoon everyone. The Bee the other day had the headline "Jets get restraining order against Kaepernick"

Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 16, 2023 12:37 PM (dhpSo)

145
The Kap situation is interesting. I thought the dude was making more as a slave for Nike than he ever could have in the NFL? Just stand in front of a camera and look intense, recite three words maybe, get your name on a pair of shoes for tens of million$?

But he wants to _work_ for his money. He wants to show what he can do. He wants to be quality at something and earn his accolades, not just Bullshit for Bucks.

I wonder if he's feeling a little used by Nike. They dressed him up, propped him up against a lamp post, and raked in the cash.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 16, 2023 12:37 PM (lCaJd)

146 I think there's 21 charges?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 16, 2023 12:38 PM (YRsIm)

147 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 3. Acquitted.

I'm sensing a pattern.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:32 PM (uvymP)

Let's hope it keeps up. The cynic in me, who hasn't really been following this, wonders if there's an agreement in place that allows them to convict him on something that gets him removed, but somehow allows the Gopes to be able to say "see, I only voted guilty on one of these charges."

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:38 PM (Ntc77)

148 138 There is no Haynes for my 2017 Sorento. They stop at 2013
Posted by: Jamaica NYC
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The smaller makes don't get the love that the ones sold in larger volume do. Back in the day, you could get printed service manuals given to dealers via ebay and such but all that crap is online now for dealers and not available much anymore.

Youtube then and reddit if you can tolerate it become alternatives though.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:38 PM (5jVrT)

149 2 yeas, 28 nays to article 4. Acquitted.

Looks like the Dems and Bushies have given up.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:39 PM (uvymP)

150 146 I think there's 21 charges?
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at September 16, 2023 12:38 PM (YRsIm)

21 ? Yikes

Posted by: It's me donna at September 16, 2023 12:39 PM (bs+z0)

151 I wonder if he's feeling a little used by Nike. They dressed him up, propped him up against a lamp post, and raked in the cash.

He was a fading second-string quarterback, who figured out a far more lucrative hustle than riding the bench for some NFL team.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 16, 2023 12:39 PM (2tUFv)

152 What do you call someone that tries to see the good in people, but also prepares for the bad that might also be in people?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Experienced

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 16, 2023 12:39 PM (Sjyvq)

153 California's legislature has taken major steps to institutionalize hiding child transgender identity from parents in a slate of bills headed to Gov. Gavin Newsom's (D-CA) desk.

There is talk/movement toward taking the issue away from the legislature via the initiative process - which in my observation has trended far more conservatively than the legislature.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan at September 16, 2023 12:39 PM (QGaXH)

154 Law enforcement totally disregarded the massive influx of illegals and harassed legal residents for crooked license plates or broken turn signal lights.

There's a crazy percentage of dashcam videos now there they mention the driver at fault had no license and no insurance but the state didn't punish them for that. Mostly obvious illegals, but a fair number of blacks too.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 16, 2023 12:39 PM (FD5dr)

155 There are 12 dems in the Texas Senate, and it looks like the Bush Family could only buy off 2 of the GOP-e guys. And that's the 14 vote bloc wanting to convict.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 12:41 PM (qqUCo)

156 I agree that Washington could do little once Jefferson bailed and made him a Federalist Party target and he unfortunately lost Hamilton due to the scandal in bonds. Most of the rest of his cabinet were place servers.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:34 PM (5jVrT)

Right, his second term was basically Jefferson v. Hamilton, with George having little control/say in anything they were battling over.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:41 PM (Ntc77)

157 Republicans in both national and state offices need to reacquaint themselves and embrace the concept of political retaliation.

I presume the Bush clan is neck deep in the Paxton debacle. They should be made to feel some political pain.

It's obvious the Democrats have embraced this concept and to a certain extent, have gone all in on the physical violence as well. IMO this goes beyond purely "political."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2023 12:41 PM (Q4IgG)

158 Let's hope it keeps up. The cynic in me, who hasn't really been following this, wonders if there's an agreement in place that allows them to convict him on something that gets him removed, but somehow allows the Gopes to be able to say "see, I only voted guilty on one of these charges."
Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:38 PM (Ntc77)

Requires 21 to convict. Seems really unlikely. I think the charges get more ridiculous as they go along.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:41 PM (uvymP)

159 The GOP has literally stunk up its brand name--people now still vote for them but more because the Dems are insane than any love for them.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:36 PM (5jVrT)

I suspect there are a large number of actual Dem voters who feel the same about their party.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:42 PM (Ntc77)

160 I presume the Bush clan is neck deep in the Paxton debacle. They should be made to feel some political pain.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2023 12:41 PM (Q4IgG)

Paxton beat George P Bush in the most recent primaries and, I believe, that loyal Bush sources are funding the whole thing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:43 PM (uvymP)

161 Requires 21 to convict. Seems really unlikely. I think the charges get more ridiculous as they go along.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:41 PM (uvymP)

Good to know, thanks for posting the updates.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:43 PM (Ntc77)

162 Paxton's attorney specifically called out the Bushes in his closing remarks.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:43 PM (uvymP)

163 Right, his second term was basically Jefferson v. Hamilton, with George having little control/say in anything they were battling over.
Posted by: BurtTC
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That pattern continued to some extent during Adams one term as well. Adams had his own vice president leading the opposition and Hamilton his own party chief disliked Adams. Adams though kept us out of war with France though and probably lost the White House over it. Adams is an interesting character full of promise, ambition, but also human failings.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:44 PM (5jVrT)

164 I can get official PDF's, 15$, from Kia in SK but, no aftermarket books. eBay has lots of PDF's available. I am keeping this car for a long time, I should invest in one.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 16, 2023 12:44 PM (Eeb9P)

165 Back, had to go see parents.
Said my uncle looks like he was in a fight being all B&B from 3 falls in a day Thursday when they moved trying to do stuff he shouldn't.

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 12:44 PM (fwDg9)

166 Afternoon everyone. The Bee the other day had the headline "Jets get restraining order against Kaepernick"
Posted by: Smell the Glove at September 16, 2023 12:37 PM (dhpSo)

Hah! God bless the Bee.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:44 PM (Ntc77)

167 13 yeas, 17 nays to article 5. Acquitted.

Guess they're trying to pretend that they were being serious about this.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:45 PM (uvymP)

168 I suspect there are a large number of actual Dem voters who feel the same about their party.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Possibly. At least the ballots submitted though say otherwise. My guess is that recently with absentee ballots, the margin of fraud has ballooned to almost twenty percent or so in contested races from the old norm of about 5-10 percent.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:45 PM (5jVrT)

169 138 There is no Haynes for my 2017 Sorento. They stop at 2013
Posted by: Jamaica NYC

No underwear ?

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 12:46 PM (T4tVD)

170 164 I can get official PDF's, 15$, from Kia in SK but, no aftermarket books. eBay has lots of PDF's available. I am keeping this car for a long time, I should invest in one.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC

Get what you can while it is still available. Mfgs like John Deere have turned from making their money selling products new into making money via service and repair parts monopolies.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:47 PM (5jVrT)

171 There's a brilliant clip from the cross examination by Paxton's attorney, where he forced the lead witness to admit that there was never any actual evidence to support any of the charges.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 12:48 PM (qqUCo)

172 171 There's a brilliant clip from the cross examination by Paxton's attorney, where he forced the lead witness to admit that there was never any actual evidence to support any of the charges.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Yep and that attorney had the pix, phone records, and receipts to indicate no renovation happened. The Bushies are shit people that have the loyalty of a weasel.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:50 PM (5jVrT)

173 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 6. Acquitted.

This one was firing "whistleblowers" so, hopefully, it was their best shot.

There was a bit where they were reading one yay after another and I got a bit worried.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:51 PM (uvymP)

174
the initiative process - which in my observation has trended far more conservatively than the legislature.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

+++++++++++++++

It happens every time. Kalifornistanis elect hard-blue legislators, the legislators do hard-blue things, and the 'stanis yell "Oh noes!!!!" and pull them back with an initiative. It costs money and it's a lot of work, but it's somehow better than electing the people who campaigned against the solid-blue things in the first place.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 16, 2023 12:51 PM (lCaJd)

175 When your a Jet , Your a high flying Jet

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 12:51 PM (fwDg9)

176 Adams is an interesting character full of promise, ambition, but also human failings.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:44 PM (5jVrT)

I do think HBO did a great job with their series on Adams, with Paul "F'n Merlot" Giamatti as John Sr.

I'm sure they took liberties (pun intended) with some events, but generally nailed the man and his character.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:51 PM (QUA/z)

177 > Paxton beat George P Bush in the most recent primaries and, I believe, that loyal Bush sources are funding the whole thing.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:43 PM (uvymP)
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Political entitlement. Hope Paxton is acquitted of all charges and goes after the Bush clan with a flamethrower.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 16, 2023 12:52 PM (Q4IgG)

178 Damn. The site is loading really slow for me.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 16, 2023 12:54 PM (V8he0)

179 Possibly. At least the ballots submitted though say otherwise. My guess is that recently with absentee ballots, the margin of fraud has ballooned to almost twenty percent or so in contested races from the old norm of about 5-10 percent.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:45 PM (5jVrT)

There are those who claim the actual turnout in some Democrat "stronghold" areas are incredibly low, well below 50% of eligible voters going to the polls. Which does make some sense, and yet ballots cast often approach 100% and beyond.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 12:55 PM (QUA/z)

180 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 7. Acquitted.

This one was basically that he defended himself against the "whistleblowers".

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 12:56 PM (uvymP)

181 Don't know much about this Texas battle other than reading a few articles. Taking it the Uniparty is the prosecutor and it's a Kangaroo Court. Seems all we can get now .

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 12:56 PM (fwDg9)

182 I'm sure they took liberties (pun intended) with some events, but generally nailed the man and his character.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Pretty much followed David McCulloch's biography who is probably one of our leading historians now that Thomas Fleming has left this mortal coil. Adams is under valued as a theoretician of republics while Madison is somewhat overpraised. Adams and His Defence of the Constitutions of the US is a masterpiece and he more or less helped draft the predecessor to the US Constitution via his submissions for the state Constitution of Mass which is coincidentally the oldest US federal or state constitution still in use.

Fleming's books are almost all to be appreciated but his New Dealer's War is scathing toward FDR and his actions in WWII. Fleming was a fan of FDR until he actually examined his record. Even better than Amity Schlaes book Forgotten Man

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 12:57 PM (5jVrT)

183 Which part of the Constitution seems most endangered to you right now?

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No part. The Articles were all obviated by the 1950s, and the bill of rights was formally over with by the 1920s. All rights are civil now, and increasingly uncivil both by law and the application of it.

Dead shit isn't at risk.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 16, 2023 12:59 PM (0FoWg)

184 I’m excited to finally be feeling good enough compete again. It’s lots of fun…
Posted by: browndog

Excellent news!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 16, 2023 01:00 PM (0QYO+)

185 I think the final charge is Conduct Unbecoming an Officer and a Gentleman.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 01:00 PM (i9ffA)

186 There are those who claim the actual turnout in some Democrat "stronghold" areas are incredibly low, well below 50% of eligible voters going to the polls. Which does make some sense, and yet ballots cast often approach 100% and beyond.
Posted by: BurtTC

Green's challenge to Trump in 2016 in Michigan revealed reported versus actual ballots as mere small fractions of actual ballots versus reported votes. Slovenly workers routinely simply ran the ballots again and again through the scanner until they got the vote they wanted. That is why Ruby Freeman and her daughter were doing what they were doing every election. Run the ballots through until you get the count.

Dems now though have adopted the pre printed ballots as superior as it stuffs the ballot boxes with the appropriate supporting documents post election. That is why the counts have become so long is to insure that the supporting evidence matches the reported votes.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 01:00 PM (5jVrT)

187 Reagan’s fatal mistake was picking the Deep State goon Pappy Bush for vice ashole.

The evil that the Bush family has done since is legendary, from missing the coming collapse of the Soviet Union to rape to the debacles in the Middle East to allowing Clinton onto the national stage to not fighting back ever when in office to read my ass lips to rape, etc, etc.

Could go on for days.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 16, 2023 01:01 PM (R/m4+)

188 8 yeas, 22 nays to article 8. Acquitted.

More "whistleblower" stuff. He settled a suit by them which prevented voters from being aware of how evil he was despite the fact the the House, as I understand it, had to authorize the payment and the "whistleblowers" were all in cahoots with Bush.

The Senators are voting really fast, which is nice, but they read the votes individually and then verify the votes which makes the whole thing pretty tedious since it was all BS to start with.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:02 PM (uvymP)

189 185 I think the final charge is Conduct Unbecoming an Officer and a Gentleman.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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Eh, that should be read as the Not Being a privileged Grey Poupon Eating Surrender Monkey like George P Bush.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 01:02 PM (5jVrT)

190 Paxton # 8 8 ayes, 22 nays

Posted by: DanMan at September 16, 2023 01:03 PM (8uzBS)

191 California is self-cleansing. San Andreas, La Raza, the Sacred Democracy of California, - it's inevitable.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 16, 2023 01:04 PM (KVGVf)

192 "Should the Bushes be expelled permanently from Texas? Constitutional Amendment"

Wonder how folks would vote?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

193 Back, had to go see parents.
Said my uncle looks like he was in a fight being all B&B from 3 falls in a day Thursday when they moved trying to do stuff he shouldn't.
Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 12:44 PM (fwDg9)

Prayers up, Bud !

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 01:04 PM (T4tVD)

194 The evil that the Bush family has done since is legendary, from missing the coming collapse of the Soviet Union to rape to the debacles in the Middle East to allowing Clinton onto the national stage to not fighting back ever when in office to read my ass lips to rape, etc, etc.

Could go on for days.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
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The Bushes are associated with the Rockefellers way back to WWI era and were first business and then political allies. Explains the viciousness and backstabbing behavior that is typical of our corporate class. Simply nasty folks.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 01:05 PM (5jVrT)

195 Yeah well they blurred that statistic now with mail voting so they now have %110 voting, see everyone does vote, even many in the cemetery.

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 01:05 PM (fwDg9)

196 A dog door is what a lazy and irresponsible person does to shirk off disciplining their dog, failing to ever take their dog out for a walk, just letting the little feral beast do whatever they want.

Adding that to the growing pamphlet: "How to Spot A Shit Neighbor" for prospective home buyers.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 16, 2023 11:55 AM (p8A+W)
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I have several neighbors like that. Annoying as hell.
My solution is only a part time fix. Wrap a tablespoon of peanut butter into a ball of hamburger. Throw it over the fence. (wear hoodie, sunglasses, gloves, and hat) The dog will be quiet for at least a short while. And added benefit, it comes to know you.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 01:05 PM (uSHSS)

197 100kg

Posted by: browndog on his cellphone at September 16, 2023 12:27 PM (kcLcu)
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Way to go, browndog, and best of luck!

Posted by: IrishEi at September 16, 2023 01:06 PM (3ImbR)

198 Tom Servo @ 185-
Are we likely to hear the words 'Sir, I demand satisfaction.'

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 01:06 PM (z3WCn)

199
But you don't mean she's fat, right ?
Posted by: JT

That would be unwise.
You have followed this thread's 'experience is a great teacher' right?
Now why would you bring that up? Would you care to elaborate?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 16, 2023 01:06 PM (0QYO+)

200 Honestly... the Constitution has been largely a formality since the beginning. At least since 1803. Nobody in power has ever particularly cared about it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 16, 2023 01:07 PM (0FoWg)

201 198 Tom Servo @ 185-
Are we likely to hear the words 'Sir, I demand satisfaction.'

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 01:06 PM (z3WCn)

Meet on the field, at 20 paces with dueling pistols. PPV event.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:07 PM (ynpvh)

202 12 yeas, 18 nays to article 9. Acquitted.

Supposedly Paxton got his mistress hired by the guy that most of this shit revolves around and that was great for him despite the fact that he didn't do anything for the guy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:08 PM (uvymP)

203 #9 acquitted 18 nays/12 ayes

Posted by: DanMan at September 16, 2023 01:08 PM (8uzBS)

204 202 12 yeas, 18 nays to article 9. Acquitted.

Supposedly Paxton got his mistress hired by the guy that most of this shit revolves around and that was great for him despite the fact that he didn't do anything for the guy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:08 PM (uvymP)

Including the kitchen upgrade he didn't get, right?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:08 PM (ynpvh)

205 Ah. Guy said on article 10 of 16. So over half way.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:09 PM (ynpvh)

206 "A dog door is what a lazy and irresponsible person does to shirk off disciplining their dog, failing to ever take their dog out for a walk, just letting the little feral beast do whatever they want."

I've got a dog door on the back of my shop so they can come and go as they please. I'm not going to hang around to open the damn door for them.

Posted by: fd at September 16, 2023 01:09 PM (vFG9F)

207 195 Yeah well they blurred that statistic now with mail voting so they now have %110 voting, see everyone does vote, even many in the cemetery.
Posted by: Skip
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They manage to preemptively include supporting evidence by claiming they were provisional ballots that then get counted despite voting out of precinct which is unlawful in most jurisdictions.

The Dems have figured out that if they simply throw all the ballots in a box, good, fraudulent, and illegal ballots, then the GOP cannot challenge the result because it would be disenfranchising voters and that you cannot identify what ballots are to be excluded when they are all commingled together.

Easiest way to stop this is have that precinct or jurisdiction's ballots thrown out for illegal votes. Probably the courts would argue that is punishing legal voters as well as illegal and not allow it.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 01:10 PM (5jVrT)

208 #10 should be unanimous nays

Posted by: DanMan at September 16, 2023 01:10 PM (8uzBS)

209 I know a Swiss green-party expat type who's basically the only person I've ever come across that understands, or is at least willing to speak publicly about, the fact that we essentially burned down Libya for the lulz. Also one of the few, but not the only, person I've come across that can speak to the difference between a liberal and a Democrat.

Posted by: CppThis at September 16, 2023 01:11 PM (PZvjL)

210 Are we likely to hear the words 'Sir, I demand satisfaction.'

Posted by: Eromero

No

Posted by: Mick Jagger at September 16, 2023 01:11 PM (KAi1n)

211 208 #10 should be unanimous nays

Posted by: DanMan at September 16, 2023 01:10 PM (8uzBS)

But it won't be.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:11 PM (ynpvh)

212 Easiest way to stop this is have that precinct or jurisdiction's ballots thrown out for illegal votes. Probably the courts would argue that is punishing legal voters as well as illegal and not allow it.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 01:10 PM (5jVrT)

If they're good allowing fraudulent votes, they make the list.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 16, 2023 01:12 PM (ANm4C)

213 207...
The Dems have figured out that if they simply throw all the ballots in a box, good, fraudulent, and illegal ballots, then the GOP cannot challenge the result because it would be disenfranchising voters and that you cannot identify what ballots are to be excluded when they are all commingled together.
...
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 01:10 PM (5jVrT)

That's why you do a revote, after you remove (in the most pragmatic way) those involved in the fraud.
Yeah, I know, will never happen. The machine won't allow that. That's how you end up witha known election manipulator on the PA Supreme Court.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:14 PM (ynpvh)

214 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 10. Acquitted.

The guy supposedly renovated Paxton's home. Interesting that they got yea votes despite the prosecution witness admitting that Paxton's home had not been renovated and, therefore, this could not be true.

They just announced that there are 16 total articles so we're on the home stretch.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:14 PM (uvymP)

215 NYC is considering raising taxes to pay for their illegals.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 16, 2023 01:14 PM (Eeb9P)

216 I am voting Yea on expelling Bushes from Texas.

Posted by: AnnaS at September 16, 2023 01:14 PM (FnSbk)

217 Rep. Lauren Boebert is very comfortable with her sex...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 16, 2023 01:15 PM (TGPs7)

218 "Should the Bushes be expelled permanently from Texas? Constitutional Amendment"

Wonder how folks would vote?
Posted by: jim

Send them all to Kennebunkport!
Remember the Maine!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 16, 2023 01:15 PM (0QYO+)

219 __A dog door is what a lazy and irresponsible person does to shirk off disciplining their dog, failing to ever take their dog out for a walk, just letting the little feral beast do whatever they want.__

I have a neighbor who beats his dog. I've tried reporting him to the animal shelter and the local ASPCA but they don't do shit. And I don't want to confront him because he seems like the type who would slash tires and break windows.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 16, 2023 01:16 PM (9yUzE)

220 217 Rep. Lauren Boebert is very comfortable with her sex...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 16, 2023 01:15 PM (TGPs7)

I guess that means she really, really, enjoys it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:16 PM (ynpvh)

221 On this Fake Federal agent and RFK Jr
Kidnapping or attempted murder I would think, but betting he is a Fed paid operative and this will disappear quickly

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 01:16 PM (fwDg9)

222 218 "Should the Bushes be expelled permanently from Texas? Constitutional Amendment"

Wonder how folks would vote?
Posted by: jim

Send them all to Kennebunkport!
Remember the Maine!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 16, 2023 01:15 PM (0QYO+)

On a bus with the other illegals?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:17 PM (ynpvh)

223 NYC is considering raising taxes to pay for their illegals.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 16, 2023 01:14 PM (Eeb9P)

Their solution for everything. Keep the buses moving.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 16, 2023 01:17 PM (ANm4C)

224 I've got a dog door on the back of my shop so they can come and go as they please. I'm not going to hang around to open the damn door for them.
Posted by: fd at September 16, 2023 01:09 PM (vFG9F)

LOL !!

So, dat's DAT !

Posted by: JT at September 16, 2023 01:17 PM (T4tVD)

225 If the rule is is to count without question every ballot in the box, get bigger boxes and fill with more ballots.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 16, 2023 01:18 PM (Eeb9P)

226 __Interesting that they got yea votes despite the prosecution witness admitting that Paxton's home had not been renovated and, therefore, this could not be true.__

Shows this is impeachment is a political farce.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 16, 2023 01:18 PM (9yUzE)

227 Gaddafi was going to do oil deals in other currencies. That's why they offed him.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 16, 2023 01:19 PM (Ds/Wi)

228 That's why you do a revote, after you remove (in the most pragmatic way) those involved in the fraud.
Yeah, I know, will never happen. The machine won't allow that. That's how you end up witha known election manipulator on the PA Supreme Court.
Posted by: jim
--------
Another way to fight it is go after the voter registration lists and cull out all the fake multiple registrations in them--addresses in vacant lots, PO boxes, and other such. Remove the floaters and it makes the fraud much more difficult. The Dems have a more or less continuous fraud system workign with their voter registration drives paid for with dark money ginning up voter registrations valid or not and paying per registration to countless footsoldiers. At election time, the footsoldiers are paid to manufacture and 'harvest' ballots and once again paid per ballot. Makes the incentives on the individual footsoldiers to commit fraud and keeps the higher ups hands clean. They also work on petitions and other such activity.

So organized that they have regular wages, housing, rental cars, and meal allowances and often it is a side gig for college students to do it. The payment per ballot is often a bonus.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 01:19 PM (5jVrT)

229 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 15 (apparently they aren't numbered sequentially) . Acquitted for 11/16.

I'm not sure I understand this one. I think it's that Paxton gave a report on the "whistleblower" allegations... the ones he's just been acquitted of... saying that he did no wrong and that's bad.

I really hope that my SIL is watching this and getting angrier by the minute that Paxton's gonna win. She needs more disappointment in her life. I ask God's forgiveness for that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:21 PM (uvymP)

230 Sounds like this article is, "Is he guilty of doing the things we already voted he's not guilty?"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:22 PM (ynpvh)

231 God wants truth and justice, remember that.
Bearing false witness is a no- no

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 01:23 PM (fwDg9)

232 Uh oh. The Dog Door Wars... begun, they have.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 01:23 PM (ZP3iC)

233 232 Uh oh. The Dog Door Wars... begun, they have.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 01:23 PM (ZP3iC)

Were there dog doors in "Prometheus"?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:24 PM (ynpvh)

234 I have one of those sisters no nic, Springfield, Va.

Posted by: DanMan at September 16, 2023 01:25 PM (8uzBS)

235 I still have my Paxton yard sign from last election.

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 01:25 PM (z3WCn)

236 Rep. Lauren Boebert is very comfortable with her sex...

Posted by: Mister Ghost at September 16, 2023 01:15 PM (TGPs7)

I guess that means she really, really, enjoys it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:16 PM (ynpvh)

She's single now. And I no longer live in the area.....

True story: There's a strong resemblance between her and my ex.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 01:26 PM (ZP3iC)

237 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 16 (apparently they aren't numbered sequentially) . Acquitted for 12/16.

He was part of a conspiracy to perform the acts of which he has just been acquitted.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:26 PM (uvymP)

238 Were there dog doors in "Prometheus"?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:24 PM (ynpvh)

I think there was a line, "Open the dog bay door, Hal."

It's been a while since I've seen the movie, but I believe Hal, indeed, did not open the dog bay door.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 01:28 PM (ZP3iC)

239 NYC is considering raising taxes to pay for their illegals.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC

The wonderful thing about taxes is taxes are wonderful things.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 01:28 PM (FVME7)

240 231 God wants truth and justice, remember that.
Bearing false witness is a no- no

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 01:23 PM (fwDg9)

That's why the Dems enjoy it. For fun and profit. All the gods they worship ultimately answer to Satan.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:29 PM (ynpvh)

241 226 __Interesting that they got yea votes despite the prosecution witness admitting that Paxton's home had not been renovated and, therefore, this could not be true.__

Shows this is impeachment is a political farce.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at September 16, 2023 01:18 PM (9yUzE)

As I noted upthread, there is a bloc of 14 Senators that want Paxton out of office, which is made up of all 12 Democrats plus 2 Bush Family Lackeys.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 01:29 PM (i9ffA)

242 Which part of the Constitution seems most endangered to you right now?

Section 4 of Article 4, both in the protection from invasion, and the guarantee of a republican form of government.

THe “no religious test” clause of article 6, clause 3 is also threatened. Oddly, it has been a while since I’ve heard of any challenges to the Third Article of Amendment. Striking prison guards in upstate NY sued when they were turned out of the homes they were provided by the Department of Corrections in favor of quartering the National Guard troops called up to replace them

Posted by: Fox2! at September 16, 2023 01:29 PM (Ap2ly)

243 I don't know who Paxton is, and don't care. He's a politician; whatever's he's accused of he's guilty of, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

But if him being acquitted for his sins upsets the Bushes, I'm good. Whatever crimes he's committed are smaller than theirs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 16, 2023 01:30 PM (0FoWg)

244 Sigh...
To be in Munich.
Oktoberfest starts today.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 01:30 PM (uSHSS)

245 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 17 (actually, looks like there were originally 20 and the Senate threw some out before things started) . Acquitted for 13/16.

He had staff members to things to benefit him personally.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:31 PM (uvymP)

246 244 Sigh...
To be in Munich.
Oktoberfest starts today.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 01:30 PM (uSHSS)

that shoulda been one of the "holidays" mentioned...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

247 Articles 11 - 14 aren't being voted on today, because they relate to complaints about the 2015 criminal charge against Paxton (which has NEVER gone to trial) related to incidents that happened in 2012. At the end of the current trial, the Senate can vote to dismiss those 4 articles without a hearing, or they ca choose to hold a separate trial about them.

I think they will realize they have beclowned themselves enough with this nonsense, and just dismiss them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 01:32 PM (i9ffA)

248
I'm surprised they're voting on all the articles. Usually there's one or two big ones and a dozen cruelty-to-dumb-animals kind. If the big ones flop, they throw in the towel.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 01:32 PM (MoZTd)

249 245 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 17 (actually, looks like there were originally 20 and the Senate threw some out before things started) . Acquitted for 13/16.

He had staff members to things to benefit him personally.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:31 PM (uvymP)

Was that wrong? I mean I had Monica personally benefit my staff/member.

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 16, 2023 01:33 PM (ynpvh)

250 God wants truth and justice, remember that.
Bearing false witness is a no- no

Posted by: Skip

There's no such thing as truth.

https://tinyurl.com/mr2nda2a

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 16, 2023 01:34 PM (FVME7)

251 Dont' know who this Nichols guy is in the TX Senate, but he needs to be shown the door.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 16, 2023 01:34 PM (IG4Id)

252 The truth about pron for kids:

https://is.gd/useolE

Posted by: Bill Clinton at September 16, 2023 01:35 PM (ynpvh)

253 looks like the bloc of 14 yes, 16 no is holding firm.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 01:35 PM (i9ffA)

254 I don't know who Paxton is, and don't care. He's a politician; whatever's he's accused of he's guilty of, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 16, 2023 01:30 PM (0FoWg)

Your level of cynicism is rich and luxurious. However, there are times when the politician is being accused of crimes he did not commit. It doesn't mean he hasn't committed other crimes, the same types of crimes they ALL commit, so they will never be tried for those.

This one seems to be one where it's mostly (if not entirely) phony.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 01:36 PM (ZP3iC)

255 that shoulda been one of the "holidays" mentioned...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:31 PM (ynpvh)

*looks at stockpile of German bier*

It is at my house!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 01:36 PM (uSHSS)

256 off disgusting, syphilitic sock

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:37 PM (ynpvh)

257 Sigh...
To be in Munich.
Oktoberfest starts today.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 01:30 PM (uSHSS)

Meh, been there/done that. Too many Germans.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 01:37 PM (ZP3iC)

258 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 18 (actually, looks like there were originally 20 and the Senate threw some out before things started) . Acquitted for 14/16.

These last three are basically rewordings of the same thing. In this case, Paxton broke the law by doing some of these crimes of which we have previously accused him and he has been previously acquitted.

It's pretty obvious that the House wanted to get as many articles as possible to sway the minds of the voters.

I'll continuing posting here so as not to pollute the gardening thread with this crap.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:38 PM (uvymP)

259 257 Sigh...
To be in Munich.
Oktoberfest starts today.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 01:30 PM (uSHSS)

Meh, been there/done that. Too many Germans.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 01:37 PM (ZP3iC)

I hear the schintzel is good.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:38 PM (ynpvh)

260 253 looks like the bloc of 14 yes, 16 no is holding firm.
Posted by: Tom Servo
------------
Now consider that the House voted overwhelmingly to impeach and suspend from office despite nominal GOP control. The first person that Paxton should go after is Phelan.

Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 01:38 PM (5jVrT)

261 Annnd...Gardening NOOD.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:39 PM (ynpvh)

262 All I want is for Paxton to issue this statement:

My turn

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 16, 2023 01:40 PM (u73oe)

263 YES Nichols needs to be run out on a rail!!! He even looks arrogant.

Posted by: AnnaS at September 16, 2023 01:40 PM (FnSbk)

264 174 It happens every time. Kalifornistanis elect hard-blue legislators, the legislators do hard-blue things, and the 'stanis yell "Oh noes!!!!" and pull them back with an initiative. It costs money and it's a lot of work, but it's somehow better than electing the people who campaigned against the solid-blue things in the first place.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 16, 2023 12:51 PM (lCaJd)

I think it's a symptom of a completely demolished Republican Party in California...they couldn't even run a 'single' credible alternative to Gruesome in the recall - instead 15 or so wanna-bes so of course the recall failed.

Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan at September 16, 2023 01:40 PM (QGaXH)

265
The first person that Paxton should go after is Phelan.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 01:38 PM (5jVrT)

________

He's the alky, right?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 01:40 PM (MoZTd)

266 I hear the schintzel is good.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:38 PM (ynpvh)

Delicious! But I'd munch on a couple brats during the day but do the Fest chickens for dinner. Excellent!

Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 01:40 PM (uSHSS)

267 It's pretty obvious that the House wanted to get as many articles as possible to sway the minds of the voters.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:38 PM (uvymP)

Donald Trump called and said where have I seen this tactic used before.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 01:41 PM (ZP3iC)

268 So there were 14 Texas state senators, including 2 RINOs, who voted to convict Paxton on the count where he was accused of using state funds (or some illegal funding source) to remodel his house…. Yet he showed conclusively that his house wasn’t even remodeled so he is obviously and clearly innocent… and they still vote to convict??? Clown world… my contempt for these people knows no bounds. How do they sleep at night?

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 16, 2023 01:41 PM (xT8gx)

269 this one is a sillier one than most, charged with being bad for all these things he's been acquitted of

Posted by: DanMan at September 16, 2023 01:41 PM (8uzBS)

270 Your level of cynicism is rich and luxurious.

----

Thank you for your kind words

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 16, 2023 01:41 PM (0FoWg)

271 Now consider that the House voted overwhelmingly to impeach and suspend from office despite nominal GOP control. The first person that Paxton should go after is Phelan.
Posted by: whig at September 16, 2023 01:38 PM (5jVrT)

Yup, and I believe they gave it all of 48 hours of examination before they did it. I don't think the GOP-e understands how much they just hurt themselves with this ridicuouls and pathetic effort to take him out - and now Paxton is stronger than ever.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 01:42 PM (i9ffA)

272
Dems and Bushies will still insist Paxton is guilty of something. They'll be digging around crazily like Monsieur de Villfort looking for the phantom baby. "Oh, I will find him! I will find him!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 01:43 PM (MoZTd)

273 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 19. Acquitted for 15/16.

Paxton is unfit for office for doing some of these crimes of which we have previously accused him and he has been previously acquitted.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:44 PM (uvymP)

274 Meh, been there/done that. Too many Germans.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 01:37 PM (ZP3iC)

I was there right after unification. There was a real "Us-Them" atmosphere between the former east Germans and the West Germans.

I've been to 9 Oktoberfests over the years and have the collector's mug for each. A nice grouping.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 01:44 PM (uSHSS)

275 welp at least we know of 50 house members and two senators need replacing

why'd you do it Stan Kitzman? Hope you enjoyed your time in the house

Posted by: DanMan at September 16, 2023 01:45 PM (8uzBS)

276 268 So there were 14 Texas state senators, including 2 RINOs, who voted to convict Paxton on the count where he was accused of using state funds (or some illegal funding source) to remodel his house…. Yet he showed conclusively that his house wasn’t even remodeled so he is obviously and clearly innocent… and they still vote to convict??? Clown world… my contempt for these people knows no bounds. How do they sleep at night?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 16, 2023 01:41 PM (xT8gx)

at night they seethe and burn and say to themselves "We hates Nasty Paxtonses! We hates them, we do!!! Sneaky, Nasty, Paxtonses!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 01:46 PM (i9ffA)

277
Paxton should go in the office Monday morning and hand down 50 indictments of Dem and GOPe pols by the coffee break.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 01:46 PM (MoZTd)

278 Hancock & Nichols should just quit today.

/Nick Rekieta
HOW EMBARRASSING~~!
/Nick Rekieta

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 16, 2023 01:47 PM (IG4Id)

279 Now we know front and center those who must be primaried! Thanks RINOS! You outed yourselves. Could someone post their names from the House? I know Nichols from senate --who is other one?

Posted by: AnnaS at September 16, 2023 01:47 PM (FnSbk)

280 276 268 So there were 14 Texas state senators, including 2 RINOs, who voted to convict Paxton on the count where he was accused of using state funds (or some illegal funding source) to remodel his house…. Yet he showed conclusively that his house wasn’t even remodeled so he is obviously and clearly innocent… and they still vote to convict??? Clown world… my contempt for these people knows no bounds. How do they sleep at night?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 16, 2023 01:41 PM (xT8gx)

at night they seethe and burn and say to themselves "We hates Nasty Paxtonses! We hates them, we do!!! Sneaky, Nasty, Paxtonses!!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 01:46 PM (i9ffA)

Pierre Dilectos.
Maybe I should call Romney Pierre Dildo instead.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:48 PM (ynpvh)

281 I would like to know who exactly funded the lawyers for the prosecution "witnesses". The witnesses didn't pay 'em, so who did? Was it a legal firm? Who got the legal firm to do it? Track the money all the way back to the Bushes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:49 PM (ynpvh)

282 I was there right after unification. There was a real "Us-Them" atmosphere between the former east Germans and the West Germans.

I've been to 9 Oktoberfests over the years and have the collector's mug for each. A nice grouping.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 01:44 PM (uSHSS)

I left country just after reunification. I did enjoy my time there, more now than I did at the time, really. I have a lot of nostalgia for those days.

But Octoberfest was overrated, I think. Really, just too many people. The one time I went, we ended up in a biker bar. Very quiet place. The locals didn't bother us, we didn't bother them. I think they knew it would be a bad idea if they tried, and I'm damn glad they didn't.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 01:49 PM (ZP3iC)

283 14 yeas, 16 nays to article 20. Acquitted for 16/16.

Paxton has failed in the public trust by bringing scandal upon the office of AG by forcing us to falsely accuse him of these crimes of which he has been previously acquitted.

Now, let AG Paxton do the Lord's work by bringing Righteous Vengeance upon the enemies of Texas!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:50 PM (uvymP)

284 Marxists continue claiming DJT is guilty of crimes already cleared to be BS

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 01:52 PM (fwDg9)

285 Dems encouraged this to motivate Texans to remove GOPe's from office. Incumbents are hard to beat but primary winners who are not backed by GOPe corporate can be.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 16, 2023 01:52 PM (Eeb9P)

286 Nichols is the longest serving Texas Senator, he's always been very liberal. He's from a poor district just south of Tyler (Jacksonville) with no major cities, and the last couple of elections he hasn't even had a primary opponent. It seems he would be ripe for a challenge, but it would need some deep pockets to fund a candidate.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 01:53 PM (i9ffA)

287 Sigh... now they have to vote on dismissing the 4 charges that were so BS that they didn't even bother voting on them.

Presumably it'll be 14/16 like almost everything else.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at September 16, 2023 01:53 PM (uvymP)

288 Clown world… my contempt for these people knows no bounds. How do they sleep at night?
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at September 16, 2023 01:41 PM (xT8gx)

On piles of money, with many beautiful children.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 16, 2023 01:54 PM (edDpS)

289 HA! This is really gonna chap the asses of all the Paxton haters in Austin, and then they're going to realize that they just made him bulletproof. Made him a Hero.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 01:55 PM (i9ffA)

290 Paxton needs a broadsword and a bull whip

Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 01:56 PM (fwDg9)

291
I think it's a symptom of a completely demolished Republican Party in California...they couldn't even run a 'single' credible alternative to Gruesome in the recall - instead 15 or so wanna-bes so of course the recall failed.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

++++++++++++

I can't imagine how inert the GOP must have been during the time when Cali was slowly flipping from Reagan as governor to what we have now.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 16, 2023 01:57 PM (lCaJd)

292 291
I think it's a symptom of a completely demolished Republican Party in California...they couldn't even run a 'single' credible alternative to Gruesome in the recall - instead 15 or so wanna-bes so of course the recall failed.
Posted by: Anonymous Rogue in Kalifornistan

++++++++++++

I can't imagine how inert the GOP must have been during the time when Cali was slowly flipping from Reagan as governor to what we have now.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 16, 2023 01:57 PM (lCaJd)

Jungle primary added to the misery.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 16, 2023 01:58 PM (ynpvh)

293
The remaining articles have been dismissed, 19-11.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 02:00 PM (MoZTd)

294
Jungle primary added to the misery.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

+++++++++++++++

Perma-blue.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 16, 2023 02:00 PM (lCaJd)

295 I want to see Paxton shaking his fist in front of the Texas House, shouting "VICTOIRE! VICTOIRE!!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 02:03 PM (i9ffA)

296 Tom Servo, maybe one of the McCowns (football family) could challenge Nichols?

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 02:03 PM (z3WCn)

297 The learned Shao Lin Master just looked at Paxton and said "Flawless Victory!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 02:04 PM (i9ffA)

298
All the "political experts" said Paxton would be acquitted on one or two of the articles but otherwise he was doomed. Group Think strikes again.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 02:04 PM (MoZTd)

299 In before the one names telling us that we back criminals and should be better.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 16, 2023 02:05 PM (edDpS)

300 All the "political experts" said Paxton would be acquitted on one or two of the articles but otherwise he was doomed. Group Think strikes again.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 02:04 PM (MoZTd)

Obviously they were from the "Verdict First, Trial Afterwards" school of injustice.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 02:06 PM (i9ffA)

301
Paxton's accusers will now be portrayed as heroic martyrs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 02:06 PM (MoZTd)

302
The local stations, who have been covering this non-stop from the get-go, haven't even cut away from regular programming.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 02:08 PM (MoZTd)

303 Wasn't that long ago that the Bush/Cheney wing ran the GOP. They are done.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2023 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)

304 Where can the list of those GOPe who voted in the House to impeach be seen?

Posted by: AnnaS at September 16, 2023 02:09 PM (FnSbk)

305 The local stations, who have been covering this non-stop from the get-go, haven't even cut away from regular programming.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 02:08 PM (MoZTd)

they're about to try and pretend that it never happened. You know they will.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 16, 2023 02:14 PM (i9ffA)

306 I want them to put me back in chains!

Posted by: Colin Kaeperdick at September 16, 2023 02:16 PM (Y8lzz)

307 Wasn't that long ago that the Bush/Cheney wing ran the GOP. They are done.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2023 02:08 PM (ZLI7S)

The family doesn't even have that kind of muscle anymore.

Posted by: Moe Paxton at September 16, 2023 02:17 PM (edDpS)

308 Paxton needs a broadsword and a bull whip
Posted by: Skip at September 16, 2023 01:56 PM

Never bring a knife to a gunfight.

Posted by: Indiana Jones at September 16, 2023 02:18 PM (a3Q+t)

309 AnnaS, here's a link on how TX House voted on impeachment back in May. It's listed by districts.

https://www.texastribune.org/2023/05/27/
ken-paxton-texas-house-impeachment-vote/

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 16, 2023 02:18 PM (ju2Fy)

310 Unrelated to anything, and I'm sure it will be covered next week here, Russell Brand is being #metooed.

Then that shitty outfit, Daily Caller, posts an article calling him a "former actor turned progressive podcaster."

Idiots. Calling Brand "progressive" is either you lying, or having no idea what words me. And calling him a "former actor and comedian" is just petty nonsense I've come to expect from Daily Caller.

Fake conservatives, they are. All of them.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 16, 2023 02:20 PM (WKq3m)

311
Where can the list of those GOPe who voted in the House to impeach be seen?
Posted by: AnnaS at September 16, 2023 02:09 PM (FnSbk)

https://tinyurl.com/rrh3pvfs

My representative (Ed Thompson) and senator (Mayes Middleton) voted against this fiasco.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 02:20 PM (MoZTd)

312 These political show trials orchestrated by patrician families have a real Late Republic feel to them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 16, 2023 02:21 PM (0FoWg)

313 My representative (Ed Thompson) and senator (Mayes Middleton) voted against this fiasco.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 02:20 PM (MoZTd)

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I have heard. They may go in peace.

Posted by: Ten Bears at September 16, 2023 02:22 PM (u73oe)

314 I've been to 9 Oktoberfests over the years and have the collector's mug for each. A nice grouping.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 16, 2023 01:44 PM

I had many beer maidens over the years. A nice groping.

Posted by: Ahnold at September 16, 2023 02:22 PM (a3Q+t)

315
Now the media outlets are saying, "But there's still the state and Federal charges!!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 02:24 PM (MoZTd)

316 Now the media outlets are saying, "But there's still the state and Federal charges!!"
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 02:24 PM (MoZTd)

Yup and I'm sure state and federal police power pigs are on the phone with Party & media power pigs discussing whether/how they should proceed as we speak.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 16, 2023 02:27 PM (0FoWg)

317 And fuck you Cornyn and the pig you rode in on

Posted by: Ben Had at September 16, 2023 02:27 PM (ddR2M)

318 I need to find a clip of this.

@SaraGonzalesTX

Wow.
@LtGovTX

@DanPatrick
currently BLASTING the Texas House for jamming through articles of impeachment to the Senate without a proper investigation in the first place.

Patrick is calling to AMEND the Texas Constitution to strengthen impeachment procedures so this type of sham never happens again!

"Millions of taxpayer dollars have been wasted on this impeachment!"

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2023 02:28 PM (ZLI7S)

319 Maybe President Trump will appoint Ken Paxton US Att. General after the 24 elections.

Posted by: Eromero at September 16, 2023 02:29 PM (z3WCn)

320
This is another great victory of the FBI, vindicator of The Law and Our Democracy. Wotta farce.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 16, 2023 02:32 PM (MoZTd)

321 @318 JackStraw try this YT link. Scroll to the 34:00 mark. That's where he starts talking.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 16, 2023 02:34 PM (ju2Fy)

322 And fuck you Cornyn and the pig you rode in on
Posted by: Ben Had at September 16, 2023 02:27 PM

‘I’ve never given in to the mobs and I’m not starting today.’

Posted by: John Cornyn (RINO-TX) at September 16, 2023 02:35 PM (a3Q+t)

323 Maybe Scarlett Johansson will hire the Emperor's tailor to make her invisible Oscars dress.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 16, 2023 02:36 PM (0FoWg)

324 >>JackStraw try this YT link. Scroll to the 34:00 mark. That's where he starts talking.

Thanks olddog, found a link.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2023 02:40 PM (ZLI7S)

325 Poor Russel Brand. He told too much truth on YouTube. He could have raped all the worthless THOTs he wanted if he could have kept his mouth shut. Now they're going to end him.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 16, 2023 02:45 PM (3AR13)

326 There should be a 4th holiday this weekend, more important than any of the others except (probably) Constitution Day: tomorrow is Hank Williams' 100th birthday. I'll be playing through the 3 discs of the Original Singles Collection.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at September 16, 2023 02:47 PM (iNhu4)

327 Sorry JackStraw. Would have helped if I pasted the link.

https://www.youtube.com/live/Vrnq5NKDce8?
si=2BXZoFS2WW-xr8j-&t=8935

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 16, 2023 02:48 PM (ju2Fy)

328 Nood Paxton thread.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 16, 2023 02:49 PM (ju2Fy)

329 Thanks olddog.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 16, 2023 02:52 PM (ZLI7S)

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