Welcome to Election Season!

The New York Times was excited about the GOP debates

After all the caterwauling about our sacred elections and their importance to Our Democracy since November of 2020, I was surprised to see the graphic above show up on Twitter (or X). But Steven Hayward found more: NY TIMES LETS THE MASK SLIP

The late Tom Bethell used to point out in his American Spectator columns how denizens of Washington DC -- people we now regard as the shock troops of the administrative state -- regarded elections as a nuisance, because the results could interfere with their plans to extend expert control over everyone and everything, especially if those icky Republicans won (though usually not for long). Well, the New York Times has sort of come around the this position . . .

They thought better of this headline, apparently because it was too candid about the progressive view that the people--the ones who live south of Richmond anyway--are unfit actually to govern themselves. Within a few hours the Times changed it as follows:

The Worst People Run for Office.

It's Time for a Better Way

See Hayward's post for the full graphics and a link to the NYT piece.

The gist of the article is that the wrong people run and are elected to office. The proposed remedy? Choose our government officials by lottery! Gee -- why didn't some ancient writer not think of that? Like, maybe Aristotle, in The Politics, Book IV, 1294be.

Does that mean we would be able to replace members of the Deep State by lottery periodically, too?

On the other hand, it is nice to see the Times start to come around to William F. Buckley Jrs point view that he'd rather be governed by the first 2000 names in the Boston telephone directory than the faculty of Harvard. . .

Hayward goes on to make a marvelous corollary point about education.

Coincidentally, a "friend of a friend" on social media (of a progressive persuasion) saw that I had posted the first NYT graphic. He paraphrased WFB to leave out the part about the Harvard faculty and suggest that the quote was about members of Congress. So I happen to have what WFB wrote about this point (though this was not the first time he had made the point about the Boston phone book and the Harvard faculty):

I am obliged to confess that I should sooner live in a society governed by the first two thousand names in the Boston telephone directory than in a society governed by the two thousand faculty members of Harvard University. Not, heaven knows, because I hold lightly the brainpower or knowledge or generosity or even the affability of the Harvard faculty: but because I greatly fear intellectual arrogance, and that is a distinguishing characteristic of the university which refuses to accept any common premise.

He wrote this in 1963 in Rumbles Left and Right: A Book about Troublesome People and Ideas. I'm not sure what Buckley meant by "any common premise", but I'm afraid that since 1963, the Harvard Faculty has become quite capable of accepting some really stupid ideas in common with each other.

Do we vote too much?

Meanwhile, The Atlantic suggests that we vote too much. In contrast to the NYT piece, its focus was on local measures, ballot initiatives, recalls, etc. In the "nature abhors a vacuum" category, homeowners associations were mentioned.

America's voting problem is primarily a local one. When compared with that of peer nations, our general-election turnout is actually middle-of-the-pack. And although more voting at the federal level is desirable, some political-science research casts doubt on whether the results of national elections would significantly change if everybody showed up. Not so in local elections, where the electorate is remarkably unrepresentative.

The timing of the graphic to coincide with the first GOP debate, along with the one from the NYT suggesting that elections are "bad for democracy", is sort of disconcerting. And I'm not so sure that the intense focus on presidential politics leaves much room for the study of local politics even if local elections are scheduled along with federal elections.

What do you think about timing of local elections? I, and others here, have suggested that maybe we need to focus more of our attention locally. How do we do that? Of course, The Atlantic doesn't want too many conservatives and Senior Citizens showing up to vote on local issues.

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Beyond the Headlines

Caught this quote from Walter Kirn today. It reminded me of the NYT changing their headline. Along with the surprises and dramatics that accompanied the debates and the arrest of Trump:

I strongly suggest that those wishing to make sense of current events ignore the headlines and delve into studies of mythology, ancient religion, psychoanalysis, and classic lit. We have left the mundane sphere of "politics" and are in a vaster, deeper, more symbolic domain.

He got some interesting responses. Check out others at the link. Here are a few:

The modern technocratic managerial mindset we've cultivated for ourselves seems to ignore every human tendency that can't be turned into data. Now all those pesky unmeasurables of heart, spirit, & mind are gathering strength & morphing into new & monstrous forms in the shadows.

Sir, one alternative might be to systematically study what causes social/political collapses.
Peter Turchin's book, End Times, summarizes the findings based on hard data going back centuries.

I'd like to respectfully suggest adding watching The Three Stooges to you list.

Perhaps we had better start fighting fire with fire

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Loose Ends

From Steven Hayward again. Russia, San Francisco, Yale. Will these things ever make sense?

You just knew somebody would do this:

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE

Malice in Wonderland

Wonderland does not seem like a very nice place.

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Music

In the Hall of the Mountain King

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, August 19, Any Fascists North of Richmond?

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:14 AM

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1 Nobody here?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 26, 2023 11:18 AM (VwHCD)

2 Morning Horde

Posted by: Kratwurst at August 26, 2023 11:19 AM (fcDpY)

3 Campaign season is too damn long, for sure.

Posted by: BignJames at August 26, 2023 11:19 AM (AwYPR)

4 And hopefully the Art Museum got major blowback for the demonfest.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 11:20 AM (NpWq6)

5 The problem isn't the lottery, but who runs it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 11:20 AM (ynpvh)

6 4 And hopefully the Art Museum got major blowback for the demonfest.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 11:20 AM (NpWq6)

Nothing good ever comes from stuff like that. Then again, they're just doing their master's bidding.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 11:21 AM (ynpvh)

7 "The more you indict, the more we unite!"

the hood has Trump's' back:

https://tinyurl.com/y94jyaz9

Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2023 11:22 AM (W33rP)

8 I'll keep on voting, but will consider other options.

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 11:22 AM (z3WCn)

9 And it's not that the "worst people" run for office. The most morally pliable people run for office. The worst people are the ones who buy them, and put them up there to run.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:22 AM (AMJwl)

10 I think we do vote too much. We have primaries then general every two years. Then in off years we have municipal elections. And sometimes primaries for those municipal elections. And on top of that we have random ballot measures in March or July or sometimes just out of the blue on a random date. And sprinkle all that with special elections if someone retired or dies in office. There is always a yard sign for some election going on. At least around me.

It gets exhausting and it’s part of why the voting rate outside of presidential elections is abysmally low.

I’m not saying we need fewer elections, just more consolidation of elections. Fewer election days, same number of things we vote on.

Posted by: Montec at August 26, 2023 11:22 AM (XsD7N)

11 Because unless you were a Satanist why on earth would anyone bring their kids to something that has to do with summoning playful demons?

P.S. Demons aren't playful

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 11:22 AM (NpWq6)

12 The NY Slimes. A garbage paper for garbage people.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2023 11:22 AM (NlOOx)

13 Good morning KT

The weekend is coming

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 11:23 AM (1/BRL)

14 11 Because unless you were a Satanist why on earth would anyone bring their kids to something that has to do with summoning playful demons?

P.S. Demons aren't playful

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 11:22 AM (NpWq6)

No, you misread that. The sessions are "playful". Yeah, right.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 11:23 AM (ynpvh)

15 14

Then again, that's how it's written. Hmmm.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 11:25 AM (ynpvh)

16 Always Peer Gynt in winter for me.

Posted by: runner at August 26, 2023 11:25 AM (V13WU)

17 I've been thinking about the DeSantis phenomenon, and I realize unlike some people around here, I'd already given up on any of these people before any of this, so I think I'm more objective here.

He's not a bad guy, obviously. But whatever compelled him to join the fray, he quickly learned he wasn't allowed to say some things, while he was required to say other things, and so, whoever this guy is, what we're seeing now isn't him. It's whoever is backing him.

And I believe the lackluster effort he's put forth is at least in part due to him realizing, after he got in, that he wasn't going to be able to be who he is. So he's been half-assing it, somewhat to his credit.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:25 AM (AMJwl)

18 Well, they believe Tranny grooming sessions are playful, right?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 11:25 AM (ynpvh)

19 Random thought. There is an opera, Nixon In China, about (try to follow me here) Nixon going to China. It's well thought of although I didn't care for it, too modern. But what the world needs now is a comic opera, Biden In Hawaii.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:26 AM (FVME7)

20 Let's discuss primaries with an insane number of candidates. WA state had 26 candidates for governor and top two vote getters move on, regardless of party. (We did get a repub, Culp, against Inslee). These are vanity runs and unlikely to do anything but have voters use name recognition for their choice.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 26, 2023 11:27 AM (ouTlx)

21 Well I'm off. Good Shabbos to you all.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 11:27 AM (ynpvh)

22 I'd try making a flat joke about summoning demons and the bottle rattling scene in THE WARRIORS but I'll probably screw it up.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 11:27 AM (43xH1)

23 Hi, Skip and crew!

Posted by: KT at August 26, 2023 11:28 AM (rrtZS)

24 Pronouncing DeSantis’s Carter dead is a bit premature. He will still be governor of FL for 2.5 years and then can run again 2024. Biden ran twice (or was it 3 times?) times for the DNC before winning. Reagan ran and failed in 1976. Hillary lost in 2008 and won in 2016.

It’s not exactly unprecedented to run, lose, run again and win a 2nd time.

Posted by: Montec at August 26, 2023 11:29 AM (XsD7N)

25 We got bad storms Thursday night in W PA. My township got trashed pretty good. Spent yesterday with a chainsaw.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2023 11:29 AM (NlOOx)

26 They did not change the content of their story, just the headline- which was true to their opinion.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 11:30 AM (zZu0s)

27 And I believe the lackluster effort he's put forth is at least in part due to him realizing, after he got in, that he wasn't going to be able to be who he is. So he's been half-assing it, somewhat to his credit.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:25 AM (AMJwl)

I agree that up til now, his efforts have seemed half-hearted. A charitable explanation is that he's just doing a dry run for 2028. who knows, but me real fear is that there will never be any 2028 elections. Not even sure about 24 at this point.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2023 11:30 AM (q3gwH)

28 Maybe it's a "playful" session FOR demons...but I don't think that means what they think...

Posted by: lin-duh at August 26, 2023 11:31 AM (UUBmN)

29 As far as "modern" books go-and it wasn't one- "How To Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie-was not a bad one. It contains helpful advice for some people I know who have been really shy and for whom it's hard to initiate conversations.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 11:31 AM (NpWq6)

30 More impeccable logic.

TheBlaze
@theblaze
Professional race-baiter Joy Reid says of Trump mugshot: “I despised Donald Trump because he signified the rich White guy in Manhattan.”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:31 AM (FVME7)

31 Never summon demons, playful or otherwise. There are no playful nor non-playful demons. They're kinda like the uniiarty. All demons, all the time.

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 11:31 AM (z3WCn)

32 The people that run this country (whoever they are… it ain’t Brandon that’s for sure) care absolutely nothing for the desires of the citizens of the country. They make that clear over and over…. From open borders to EVs to sexual deviancy (even with children) to…. You name it. They seem to work against the wishes of the vast majority…. I for who knows how long they’ve been rigging elections to give the illusion that the nonsense is popular. Woodrow Wilson’s vision of a technocratic upper class administrative state has been disastrous. Thomas Jefferson roles over in his grave regularly. He would’ve re-issued the Declaration probably 75 years ago….

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 11:31 AM (xT8gx)

33 Worth noting that at the time the guys who invented America were coming up with ideas, contemporary culture was *very* interested in all things ancient, particularly Rome and how it fell apart.

Posted by: CppThis at August 26, 2023 11:31 AM (PZvjL)

34 eanwhile, The Atlantic suggests that we vote too much.

==

we vote so much that no one votes. participation and turnout is dismal. Except 2020, when voter "turnout" was almost 70% ! compared to Obama's 2008 of 62.5% ! What a deal.

Posted by: runner at August 26, 2023 11:31 AM (V13WU)

35 "Hillary lost in 2008 and won in 2016."

?Que?

Oh, you mean the nom.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 11:31 AM (zZu0s)

36 playful, like cats with mice.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2023 11:32 AM (q3gwH)

37 Most people in the USA do not believe that demons are real

Posted by: Paul at August 26, 2023 11:32 AM (7yr/w)

38 The regularity or rather rapidity of elections was supposed to be in proportion to the office's power. Who has the most elections? House of Representitives- because they have the power of the purse and hence could control everything else.

Sign that they never meant the supreme court to be as powerful as it is? Lifetime appointment.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 11:33 AM (zZu0s)

39 Also, kids, there are no demons or monsters hiding under the bed.

Posted by: Paul at August 26, 2023 11:33 AM (7yr/w)

40 Prolapse Paul!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2023 11:33 AM (R4t5M)

41 Random thought. There is an opera, Nixon In China, about (try to follow me here) Nixon going to China. It's well thought of although I didn't care for it, too modern. But what the world needs now is a comic opera, Biden In Hawaii.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:26 AM (FVME7)

Well, I hate opera, so...

I have noticed, the things that don't get made into movies, it's astonishing sometimes. Until you realize the powers that be there have always been bought and paid for, by one faction or another. Currently it seems to be the pedos, more than the commies, but yeah. Nixon is now reduced in the popular culture, to two things: Watergate and red scare stuff.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:34 AM (WvPNo)

42 one downside of too many elections that I've observed is that when there's a local election for say, school board members or some bond proposal, only a handful of people ever show up to vote - meaning whoever can get some level of organized support for their idea or pet project wins that vote easily. Sometimes that's good, sometimes it isn't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2023 11:35 AM (q3gwH)

43 Posted by: Paul at August 26, 2023 11:32 AM (7yr/w)

Don't care and half the polls that come out are push polls anway. And if they don't believe in demons why are they having "fun sessions" to summon them?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 11:35 AM (NpWq6)

44 35 "Hillary lost in 2008 and won in 2016."

?Que?

Oh, you mean the nom.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 11:31 AM (zZu0s)

I WON IT ALL, ASSHOLE !!

Posted by: Cankles at August 26, 2023 11:35 AM (us2H3)

45 42 one downside of too many elections that I've observed is that when there's a local election for say, school board members or some bond proposal, only a handful of people ever show up to vote - meaning whoever can get some level of organized support for their idea or pet project wins that vote easily. Sometimes that's good, sometimes it isn't.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2023 11:35 AM (q3gwH)

The local elections being so rapid was because they had were the ones who were supposed to have the most impact on your life.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 11:35 AM (zZu0s)

46 That thing about the government saying you can only have 2 drinks a week-

If implemented, it would just be a guideline, like the famous 'food pyramid'

so drink up

Posted by: DB - E Pluribus Funk at August 26, 2023 11:36 AM (geLO8)

47 Posted by: Paul at August 26, 2023 11:33 AM (7yr/w)

I'm not a kid, and Jesus believed in demons. He's an authority for me, not some left wing troll. Adios, Paul. Go talk to yourself.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 11:36 AM (NpWq6)

48 It's an ironical summoning of demons. To own the cons.

It's Gilbert & Sullivan practically.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 26, 2023 11:37 AM (aGtVb)

49 Pronouncing DeSantis’s Carter dead is a bit premature.

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DeSantis and Ramaswamy See Fundraising Surge After First Debate

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:37 AM (FVME7)

50 It pleases me greatly that my former state of residence is taking the lead in being first among dumbass donkey barns. Not that I really needed public vindication for my decision, but there it is.

Posted by: CppThis at August 26, 2023 11:38 AM (PZvjL)

51 Professional race-baiter Joy Reid says of Trump mugshot: “I despised Donald Trump because he signified the rich White guy in Manhattan.”
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:31 AM (FVME7)

take heart

she said the same thing about fags and then took it back

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2023 11:38 AM (us2H3)

52 Hillary lost in 2008 and won in 2016."

?Que?

Oh, you mean the nom.

—-

Well, yeah.

Posted by: Montec at August 26, 2023 11:39 AM (XsD7N)

53 Sign that they never meant the supreme court to be as powerful as it is? Lifetime appointment.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 11:33 AM (zZu0s)

Yeah, an objective interpreter of the one document that is supposed to dictate all the rest of our laws.

We don't do that anymore, of course, but that was the idea. Seems like it should have been a simple task.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:39 AM (fdUnk)

54 Summoning of demons? Have these people never seen a movie?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:39 AM (FVME7)

55 17 - BurtTC: You might be right and that’s at least part of it. I’ve been speculating that he felt DJT would eventually be driven from the race by legal problems and he could step into the void. It’s now clear that Trump is perhaps the most courageous person we’ve had in public life in the last 50 years at least…. Nothing will drive him from the race. He has huge brass balls whatever his other faults might be

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 11:39 AM (xT8gx)

56 Savatage did an excellent version of In the Hall of the Mountain King on their album with the same name.

What an underrated band they were.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A.A.S. Drafting Technology at August 26, 2023 11:40 AM (T/Lqj)

57 I agree that up til now, his efforts have seemed half-hearted. A charitable explanation is that he's just doing a dry run for 2028. who knows, but me real fear is that there will never be any 2028 elections. Not even sure about 24 at this point.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2023 11:30 AM (q3gwH

It's part of the leftist kink. Any planning beyond today or tomorrow must be destroyed. They've done it to business, now they're going for the voters.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 26, 2023 11:40 AM (BdMk6)

58 Living here in NM, voting seems like a waste of my time. The Dems are gonna keep all the power anyway. But I do my civic duty.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 11:41 AM (tRWwW)

59 Chrysler mfg'd a Dodge Demon, had a 383 and 4 dpd. Summon one of those for me.

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 11:42 AM (z3WCn)

60 Professional race-baiter Joy Reid

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Some smart ass noticed that she and Trump have the same hair.

https://tinyurl.com/2ahtt93b

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:42 AM (FVME7)

61 Living here in NM, voting seems like a waste of my time. The Dems are gonna keep all the power anyway. But I do my civic duty.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 11:41 AM (tRWwW)

Lujans

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 26, 2023 11:42 AM (aGtVb)

62 take heart

she said the same thing about fags and then took it back
Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2023 11:38 AM (us2H3)

It's a flex. To be able to say "I hate this guy because he represents/reminds me of..." and if you can put "white" or "straight" in your hate diagram, you are allowed.

It doesn't take any effort to see that you can't plug anyone/anything else into that formula and still use it in public.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:42 AM (fdUnk)

63 Savatage was underrated.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2023 11:43 AM (R4t5M)

64 56 Savatage did an excellent version of In the Hall of the Mountain King on their album with the same name.

What an underrated band they were.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, A.A.S. Drafting Technology at August 26, 2023 11:40 AM (T/Lqj)

It's not bad--obviously good enough that they decided to change formats--but IMO there's no beating the Apocalyptica version.

Posted by: CppThis at August 26, 2023 11:43 AM (PZvjL)

65 I would posit that anyone who "playfully" or otherwise seeks to summon demons, are themselves already possessed by the same.

They're not doing the "summoning" for themselves, as the demon already has them from within.

What they're doing, is the same damn thing that the trannies are doing with the kids.

GROOMING. Preparing and making way for the demons to possess countless others, as fast as they can be lined up for the takings.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 26, 2023 11:44 AM (e6UQI)

66 It's like it's always the same faces and policy points every single year from the uniparty. Nothing new. Always the same shit. From shitty people.

The whole system is crap. It produces nothing but more crap year after year after year...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 26, 2023 11:44 AM (Q4IgG)

67 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 11:44 AM (T4tVD)

68 when I was young, I would go visit my dad and sometimes he took me to an opera, even bought me a little costume to wear

he loved opera and he was a polyglot, so he understood the lingo

I think I was 9 the first time I went and the opera was Verdi's "Un ballo in maschera"

I was like "are you fucking kidding me ?"

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2023 11:45 AM (us2H3)

69 22 I'd try making a flat joke about summoning demons and the bottle rattling scene in THE WARRIORS but I'll probably screw it up.
Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 11:27 AM (43xH1)

Asmodeus, come out to plaaay-ay
Asmodeus, come out to PLAAAAY-AAY!!!

Posted by: The Rogues - who (Spoiler Alert) actually shot Cyrus at August 26, 2023 11:45 AM (fhX0j)

70 Most people in the USA do not believe that demons are real
Posted by: Paul

While Hillary is standing right there.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:46 AM (FVME7)

71 My burg had a bond up for a vote. Turnout was 16%. And it easily passed. Because the 16% who did show up were all beneficiaries of the bond, ie govt employees.

This is by design. We need a law that all elections need to be together. None of this one off shit that nobody ever knows about.

Posted by: Montec at August 26, 2023 11:46 AM (XsD7N)

72 BurtTC: You might be right and that’s at least part of it. I’ve been speculating that he felt DJT would eventually be driven from the race by legal problems and he could step into the void. It’s now clear that Trump is perhaps the most courageous person we’ve had in public life in the last 50 years at least…. Nothing will drive him from the race. He has huge brass balls whatever his other faults might be
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 11:39 AM (xT8gx)

I haven't yet finished his Tucker interview, but it's pretty darned amazing listening to the man speak. He's got a genius about him, and those who miss it... well, they miss it.

Tucker asked him more than once, what if they can't stop you by other means, are you concerned they will try to kill you? And Trump just basically dodged it, but the way he dodged it spoke volumes.

Essentially by not answering the direct question he was saying, "yeah, it do think that's a real possibility, and I'm going to do what I'm doing anyway."

I know it's frustrating for those who don't really get the guy, but yeah, that's how I saw it.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:46 AM (fdUnk)

73 https://twitter.com/i/status/
1694910825814004006

Took me a while to find this again. Please watch. It's about the Maui fire.

Posted by: Gwenn at August 26, 2023 11:47 AM (9Gr7n)

74 Demons? Who you gonna believe, me, or your lying eyes beholding my demonic look, smile, and barely-concealed horns on my forehead?

Posted by: Peter Paul Strzok II at August 26, 2023 11:47 AM (a3Q+t)

75 osted by: Jim at August 26, 2023 11:44 AM (e6UQI)

Good point.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 11:47 AM (NpWq6)

76 68 when I was young, I would go visit my dad and sometimes he took me to an opera, even bought me a little costume to wear

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2023 11:45 AM (us2H3)

it would have been fun to see you in tights and a ruff.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2023 11:47 AM (q3gwH)

77 Good Morning, Horde. Sipping a cup of microwaved coffee while the percolator perks. Nice bright, sunny morning here.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 11:47 AM (KCAh3)

78 While Hillary is standing right there.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:46 AM (FVME7)

Heh. And generally speaking, any statement that starts with "most people think/don't think..." whatever comes next is going to be stupid. Real stupid.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:49 AM (fdUnk)

79 70 Most people in the USA do not believe that demons are real
Posted by: Paul

While Hillary is standing right there.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:46 AM (FVME7)

they may not believe in demons, but demons believe in them. and they always come when they're called.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2023 11:49 AM (q3gwH)

80 it would have been fun to see you in tights and a ruff.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2023 11:47 AM (q3gwH)

don't forget the codpiece !!

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2023 11:50 AM (us2H3)

81 In Soviet Russia demon don’t believe in you.

Posted by: Montec at August 26, 2023 11:50 AM (XsD7N)

82 "Un ballo in maschera"

"Los ballos en maraschino syrup" is a more dulcet performance.

Posted by: Pete Puffer at August 26, 2023 11:51 AM (a3Q+t)

83 I wonder if anybody at my job reads this blog. I bitched about having Mooch quotes on the break room board and suddenly, the very next quote is from Zig Ziglar.
?????

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 11:51 AM (43xH1)

84 Choose our government officials by lottery! Gee -- why didn't some ancient writer not think of that? Like, maybe Aristotle, in The Politics, Book IV, 1294be.

Remember, the population of Athens was overwhelmingly slaves, so only the elite got to be in the lottery.

Which is as it should be, of course. /s

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2023 11:51 AM (2tUFv)

85 It's like it's always the same faces and policy points every single year from the uniparty. Nothing new. Always the same shit. From shitty people.

The whole system is crap. It produces nothing but more crap year after year after year...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 26, 2023 11:44 AM (Q4IgG)

No, it's different this time. This time we're banging the war drums for Taiwan. Against Chi Nah.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:51 AM (fdUnk)

86 My burg had a bond up for a vote. Turnout was 16%. And it easily passed. Because the 16% who did show up were all beneficiaries of the bond, ie govt employees.

This is by design. We need a law that all elections need to be together. None of this one off shit that nobody ever knows about.
Posted by: Montec at August 26, 2023 11:46 AM (XsD7N)

Government employees, except drafted military, should not be allowed to vote while in government service. Huge conflict of interest. And government employees should not be allowed to form labor unions.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 11:53 AM (KCAh3)

87 The weekend is here

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 11:54 AM (MOY79)

88 I know it's frustrating for those who don't really get the guy, but yeah, that's how I saw it.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:46 AM (fdUnk)

Yes. And you know how lefties always want republicans to “grow” while in office (meaning move left)? Trump actually has grown…. He used to be a brash bigmouth; he’s still that but he’s added substance and courage. I voted for him in 2016 because, you know, Hillary…. I now have real admiration and affection for the man

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 11:55 AM (Q/v9F)

89 And I would LOVE to see in one of those terrible demon summon movies someone do the bottle bit. It would be an instant classic.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 11:55 AM (43xH1)

90 42 one downside of too many elections that I've observed is that when there's a local election for say, school board members or some bond proposal, only a handful of people ever show up to vote - meaning whoever can get some level of organized support for their idea or pet project wins that vote easily. Sometimes that's good, sometimes it isn't.
Posted by: Tom Servo
__________

School board elections are particularly troublesome. Normal people with who aren't "professional educators" or "learning facilitators" [spit], are at a disadvantage in knowing which bums to kick out.

In the past, I've used a ranking system of degrees-of-hell-no to vote in school board or city council elections. Anyone employed in government was an automatic hell no, followed by anyone who is running to "support our teachers" (99% hell no), followed by anyone who uses the term "stakeholders" unironically (98% hell no), followed by anyone who has a picture of an apple on their yard signs (97% hell no).

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at August 26, 2023 11:56 AM (gf7Ez)

91 demons believe in them. and they always come when they're called.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2023 11:49 AM (q3gwH)

Sometimes we are in plain sight!

Posted by: Rum, Alcohol, Drugs at August 26, 2023 11:56 AM (ufFY8)

92 No, it's different this time. This time we're banging the war drums for Taiwan. Against Chi Nah.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:51 AM (fdUnk)

Taiwan actually has a democratic government, and one not installed by a Color Revolution. And Chy Nah is actually Communist, at least officially. A polar opposite to the Ukraine clusterfuck.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 11:57 AM (KCAh3)

93 GROOMING. Preparing and making way for the demons to possess countless others, as fast as they can be lined up for the takings.

Posted by: Jim at August 26, 2023 11:44 AM (e6UQI)

To whatever extent people still believe in lawfare, they ought to be fighting this one on religious grounds.

Does the museum receive "public" funds?

Who knows, maybe if one can successfully defeat this one, taking on the trannie groomers will be next.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 11:57 AM (fdUnk)

94 Good morning everyone. Beautiful day here - no matter what my self-proclaimed betters spew.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 26, 2023 11:58 AM (EJWxb)

95 If we do stop voting that's the end of the country, yet granted they steal the election anyway there can be ways to fight it.

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 11:59 AM (MOY79)

96 followed by anyone who has a picture of an apple on their yard signs (97% hell no).
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at August 26, 2023 11:56 AM (gf7Ez)

Yep, pretty much.
Also, any school bonds for maintenance that have a large proportion going to computer upgrades and fucking office furniture, instead of roof repairs and HVAC upgrades.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 26, 2023 11:59 AM (ufFY8)

97
But what the world needs now is a comic opera

Biden is the very model of a modern minor criminal.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 26, 2023 11:59 AM (63Dwl)

98 BTW, the sh*t is about to hit the fan - the utterly German establishment Der Spiegel published a lengthy article making a compelling case that the Nordstream pipelines were blown up by Ukrainian special forces.

Lots and lots of detail in the article.

Allegedly, the United States told the Ukes not to do it, and Zelensky was kept out of the loop, so he could maintain deniability.

For some reason, Berlin doesn't seem very inclined to have the ongoing investigations progress rapidly to a conclusion.

Bombing the Nordstream pipelines was an act of war against Germany, of course.

https://archive.ph/q2h7F

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2023 11:59 AM (2tUFv)

99 Taiwan actually has a democratic government, and one not installed by a Color Revolution. And Chy Nah is actually Communist, at least officially. A polar opposite to the Ukraine clusterfuck.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 11:57 AM (KCAh3)

Well that's one argument for, but I'm on the side of "no more wars" these days. Unless they're invading these borders (which of course they are, where they are), we don't get involved.

And if you need microchips and semiconductors, how's about setting up factories here, so we DON'T have to rely on Chi Nah's little island neighbor.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:00 PM (fdUnk)

100 One Word: Term Limits

Without Term Limits the whole system is and has been corrupted to an unanticipated level. Get these fucking cronies out of there! That includes staffers and the behind-the-scenes swamp scum.

If there is any merit, noticeably, in the performance of any individual, then by all means, let them campaign for a different role and position.

Be all you can be! Don't take all you can steal!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 12:00 PM (KVGVf)

101 Those who don’t believe in demons might check out Acts 19 and see what happened to the sons of Sceva…

I’ve been meaning to watch Notorious (is that the name?) but haven’t got around to it

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:00 PM (Q/v9F)

102 "Vote"...... "Elections" - are we still using those meaningless terms?

Posted by: Son of Dad at August 26, 2023 12:01 PM (8JB5s)

103 I think we don’t do enough to focus on local government. One clue as to this is the local mouthpieces. Amarillo’s local fishwrap I call the Community Calendar. Top headlines usually are such important topics as: a local restaurant opening, high school graduations, a civic organization holding a fundraiser, and so on. It is NEVER about piffling things like how Amarillo is spending taxpayer money or the pros and cons of bond issues. The local affiliates gloss over some local stories before simply repackaging the National network news. From these examples I can see how people think we have a unitary government.

Never mind the bad politicians in DC began as dirtbags on a school board someplace, and local and state government can and does effect things more than the federal level.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:02 PM (f0XAF)

104 I don’t think over ever witnessed a bond measure fail. D I’ve lived in several places over the years. Didn’t matter if it’s a red or blue area, bond measures always pass 65-35. Because even conservatives fall for the “do it for the children” or “protect fire fighters” bullshit. Sure protect them by paying them $200k a year for 20 years then $125k pension for then next 40 years after they retire.

Posted by: Montec at August 26, 2023 12:02 PM (XsD7N)

105 86 . . . Government employees, except drafted military, should not be allowed to vote while in government service. Huge conflict of interest. And government employees should not be allowed to form labor unions.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Property owners are the only people who should be allowed to vote in bond elections.

Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at August 26, 2023 12:02 PM (gf7Ez)

106 I waded into the shit surf that is known as reddit last night, posting a video of some 'auditors' in our town recently.

The stupid burns, LOL.

Some people just don't get that if you are in public, you can be filmed. If you don't like it, walk away.

Little libtard tyrants.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 26, 2023 12:03 PM (ufFY8)

107 GROOMING. Preparing and making way for the demons to possess countless others, as fast as they can be lined up for the takings.

Posted by: Jim at August 26, 2023 11:44 AM (e6UQI)

No need. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, He-Man and Care Bears already did that.

Posted by: No, really. They were the demonic vanguard, man. at August 26, 2023 12:03 PM (fhX0j)

108 All off-year elections (those w/o Federal) are dominated by libs.
The libs will never allow those off year elections to be eliminated because that is when they fund their donors/supporters.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 12:04 PM (Y/MO8)

109 I would posit that anyone who "playfully" or otherwise seeks to summon demons, are themselves already possessed by the same.

They're not doing the "summoning" for themselves, as the demon already has them from within.

What they're doing, is the same damn thing that the trannies are doing with the kids.

GROOMING. Preparing and making way for the demons to possess countless others, as fast as they can be lined up for the takings.

Posted by: Jim at August 26, 2023 11:44 AM (e6UQI)

The people leading the summoning are certainly possessed. They are leading others to play with fire.

Pretty amaze-balls that the same crowd that mocks Christians for believing in a "Sky Daddy" see nothing odd in summoning a "playful demon."

We are on a glide-path towards the State-sanctioned martyrdom of Christians.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 26, 2023 12:04 PM (pJWtt)

110 But what the world needs now is a comic opera
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Biden is the very model of a modern minor criminal.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 26, 2023 11:59 AM (63Dwl)

I saw a zoomed in vid of him in Hawaii the other day... the look of confusion on his face, before he drifted off to sleep.

It was funny. At all. It was terrifying, that 8 billion people on this planet, with their lives hanging in the balance, are made to pretend this guy is in charge of the single greatest threat to humanity in the history of humanity.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:04 PM (fdUnk)

111 It's my very firm stand that nobody, NOBODY, employed or 'employed' by government of any level can be allowed to vote on or about anything.

I won't use the term 'should': it's far more critical. They cannot be allowed to vote on or about

ANYTHING.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 12:04 PM (43xH1)

112 The weekend is here
Posted by: Skip

Hiya Skip !

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 12:05 PM (T4tVD)

113 Property owners are the only people who should be allowed to vote in bond elections.
Posted by: Kam Fong as Chin Ho at August 26, 2023 12:02 PM (gf7Ez)

"He who pays the piper calls the tune." Good principle to live by.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 12:05 PM (KCAh3)

114 It was funny.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:04 PM (fdUnk)

Was NOT. That's a monumental screwup of a typo.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:06 PM (fdUnk)

115 Kroger house brand diet cola 12pack overnight price rise from $4.39 to $5.79. Cripes.

Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at August 26, 2023 12:06 PM (MvF+J)

116 Reddit, lol.

I once made an innocuous comment about bike lanes. Something like they’re fine but not worth the money spent on them and especially not in places with long cold winters.

I got hundreds of downvotes for it.

You step a millimeter outside the leftist narrative and you might as well be H!tl3r

Posted by: Montec at August 26, 2023 12:06 PM (XsD7N)

117 Some people just don't get that if you are in public, you can be filmed. If you don't like it, walk away.

Little libtard tyrants.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 26, 2023 12:03 PM (ufFY

My wife recently wanted a ring camera and security system for our house… so what the boss wants, the boss gets. I find it amazing…. Anyone who walks by our house is recorded…. I just assume when I leave the house I’m on someone’s camera almost constantly

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:07 PM (Q/v9F)

118 I don’t think over ever witnessed a bond measure fail.

The three-county Portland Metro area voted down a $5 billion transportation bond. One thing that killed it was that although it was marketed as a "bond measure", the new taxes used to repay the bond would be permanent.

It was so bad, even Portland voted against it, and I thought that Portland voters were incapable of voting against a tax increase.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2023 12:07 PM (2tUFv)

119 Greetings! I must confess that the way elections are in most states isn't democracy at all, too many fictional people, dead people, non-citizens and people who've moved away voting.
Grieg is wonderful, I once visited his little cabin where he did his composing. It's in a beautiful setting, wooded with a babbling brook nearby. In Norway.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 26, 2023 12:09 PM (MeG8a)

120 My neighbor’s car was parked on the street and got hit and run one night. Caused a lot of damage. Police came by all the neighbors and asked if we had a ring. And they ended up finding the driver from looking at footage and capturing plate info.

Yes I live in a town with so little crime that the police actually have time to do this, lol.

Posted by: Montec at August 26, 2023 12:10 PM (XsD7N)

121 The local elections being so rapid was because they had were the ones who were supposed to have the most impact on your life.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

If by "life" you mean 'TAXES' you are completely correct.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 12:10 PM (Y/MO8)

122 “100 One Word: Term Limits

Without Term Limits the whole system is and has been corrupted to an unanticipated level. Get these fucking cronies out of there! That includes staffers and the behind-the-scenes swamp scum.”

Congratulations for pointing out one of the biggest problems in government: laziness. People who want term limits are hopelessly lazy. And lazy people look for lazy solutions that only make people MORE lazy.

People really don’t want to be bothered with the idea that we should be participating in government. Why? Because IT’S TOO HARD. And we wonder why we get the crap we get.

Besides, CA has had term limits since 1990. You think that improved governance? No. It made lazy people more lazy and now you see what has happened there.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:10 PM (f0XAF)

123 Was The Book of Mormon a comedic opera?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 12:10 PM (tRWwW)

124 I once made an innocuous comment about bike lanes. Something like they’re fine but not worth the money spent on them and especially not in places with long cold winters.

"The bike lanes go in, and the black people move out."

A number of people have noted that bike lanes are an important signifier for gentrification.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2023 12:10 PM (2tUFv)

125 My wife recently wanted a ring camera and security system for our house… so what the boss wants, the boss gets. I find it amazing…. Anyone who walks by our house is recorded…. I just assume when I leave the house I’m on someone’s camera almost constantly
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:07 PM (Q/v9F)

Pretty much, yeah.

You'd think crimes should be solved at magnificently high rates these day. But for some reason, they're not.

Weird.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:11 PM (fdUnk)

126 >>>It's my very firm stand that nobody, NOBODY, employed or 'employed' by government of any level can be allowed to vote on or about anything.

I won't use the term 'should': it's far more critical. They cannot be allowed to vote on or about

ANYTHING.

Posted by: LenNeal

>Point taken, but legislators must legislate. That's the role.

What needs to be throttled back is the presumed authority of being appointed to special committees. Some fucking asshole in Kentucky should not hold the power currently granted to him over the entire country just because he sits on a committee.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 12:11 PM (KVGVf)

127 "Should we trust Vivek? Lots of coincidences here…"

https://notthebee.com/article/should-we-trust-vivek

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2023 12:11 PM (h8jQF)

128 Conservative-ish issues tend to do better locally and as propositions because it's harder for the media to demonize an idea than a candidate.

All that being said, the biggest issue no one seems to be talking about is we have completely lost ability to fundraise and bankroll anything anymore.

The Left seems to be able to find $100+ million for every dumb issue and candidate.

Posted by: Blago at August 26, 2023 12:11 PM (cOFom)

129 In my area Bond issues occasionally fail, but it is uncommon. There is a local kerfuffle now in our county, because the new conservative board just requested that the Health Coordinator submit a budget that is cut by 50%. They gave her three days, LOL. (The deadline was last Thursday.) This is the chick that is suing the county for her job, since the theoretically fired her in January.

Anyway, the reddit libtards are really, really pissed that "Christian conservatives" took 8 of the 11 spots in that last election.

So, yeah, local elections really matter, and local news doesn't do enough real reporting.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 26, 2023 12:11 PM (ufFY8)

130 Kroger house brand diet cola 12pack overnight price rise from $4.39 to $5.79. Cripes.
Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit

And everyone's retirement account value went down by the same rate.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 26, 2023 12:12 PM (ga8qR)

131 101 Those who don’t believe in demons might check out Acts 19 and see what happened to the sons of Sceva…

I’ve been meaning to watch Notorious (is that the name?) but haven’t got around to it
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:00 PM (Q/v9F)

Nefarious. Looks interesting. Plus the prisoner is played by Sean Patrick Flannery, who was in Boondock Saints, and appears to be Christian or at least Christian-adjacent.

Posted by: Might rent it this weekend at August 26, 2023 12:13 PM (fhX0j)

132 People really don’t want to be bothered with the idea that we should be participating in government. Why? Because IT’S TOO HARD. And we wonder why we get the crap we get.

Besides, CA has had term limits since 1990. You think that improved governance? No. It made lazy people more lazy and now you see what has happened there.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:10 PM (f0XAF)

To the extent that people still believe in voting, it's the one act that MOST people ever do to engage with government.

They've been conditioned to believe it's their role, based on whichever team they belong to, to get them in office. And once they do, congrats, your job is done. Or if you don't get your guy in, well now you have to fight harder to get him in next time.

Meanwhile, damn near every aspect of your life is governed for you... by the people who claim to be your servants.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:14 PM (fdUnk)

133 And of course the regressive progressives believe in demons. They may not believe in supernatural entities, but they're ready to demonize anyone who doesn't agree with them and doesn't acknowledge that their brand of government will bring about a utopia. It's the same people who believe that Communism just hasn't be done properly because the correct people weren't in charge. Hillary's " basket of deplorables" was quite close to calling Trump voters "demons".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 12:14 PM (NpWq6)

134 Nefarious. Looks interesting.
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https://www.bitchute.com/video/qmMbFh19kMLy/

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2023 12:15 PM (h8jQF)

135 The modern technocratic managerial mindset we've cultivated for ourselves seems to ignore every human tendency that can't be turned into data. Now all those pesky unmeasurables of heart, spirit, & mind are gathering strength & morphing into new & monstrous forms in the shadows.

Great tnought.
Next map of red and blue states should have an arrow pointing south towards Richmond with the caption:
Here there be Dragons!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:16 PM (hv9bm)

136 >>>Besides, CA has had term limits since 1990. You think that improved governance? No. It made lazy people more lazy and now you see what has happened there.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

>California is a special case. Perhaps California should ~~work~~ vote harder.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 12:17 PM (KVGVf)

137 Board certified psychiatrist, graduate of Columbia and Yale, discusses his book "Demonic Foes":

https://tinyurl.com/3xynrpcr

Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2023 12:17 PM (W33rP)

138 It's an ironical summoning of demons...
...It's Gilbert & Sullivan practically. Posted by: Thesokorus

*************
To summon Admiral Doubtfire:

♫ ♫ ♪
I am the very model of a modern Made-up Genital,
I've information vaginal, gonadal, and hymen-ical,
I know the ways of Science, and I quote them all historical
From Portland down to Vanderbilt, in order categorical;
I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters urological,
I understand fake genitals, both the simple and illogical,
About bigender theorem I'm scheming how to neuter us
With many cheerful facts about the men who want a uterus

ALL: With many cheerful facts about the men who want a uterus!!

Posted by: Muldoon at August 26, 2023 12:17 PM (991eG)

139 Re: Home Owners' Associations (HOAs)

It's very rarely that you find people with positive views of HOAs. It is mostly horror stories of fees and fines, combined with busybodies, if not out-right embezzlers. Of how their freedom to do what they want with their land and their property is curtailed by the HOA's.

The funny thing is, these same brain-damaged children-in-adult-bodies will be the first to vote for big government. The HOAs are just government at a tiny, yet very local level. Literally at your front door. And you have the right to push for votes and to kick the bums out. Try doing that with the federal bureaucracy, with its unelected horde of agents pushing rule and regulation after rule and regulation.

Wonder how many people could cross the logical chasm that voting for big-government politicians (mostly D's, but R's as well) is the same as your local HOA telling you each and every thing you must or must not do, along with the waste and the secrecy they try to hide behind.

Posted by: Another Anon at August 26, 2023 12:17 PM (hwP7U)

140 Nefarious is pretty good. Some here didn't like because the majority of the movie is filmed in an interrogation room. In that way it's sort of like a play. The acting is terrific. But it's true, there are no shootouts or exploding cars, etc.
I enjoyed it, and the twist ending.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 26, 2023 12:17 PM (MeG8a)

141 Kasich warns of civil war.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at August 26, 2023 12:17 PM (GIEZS)

142 Aetius451AD - Just wanted to say I was very happy to hear the good news you got concerning your son. Praise God! We parents live and die with our kids… we’d doing anything for them and it’s agonizing when they go through stuff…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:18 PM (Q/v9F)

143 "Should we trust Vivek? Lots of coincidences here…"

https://notthebee.com/article/should-we-trust-vivek
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2023 12:11 PM (h8jQF)

Should we trust him? Is he running for office? THEN NO! Of course we shouldn't trust him.

But thankfully, for those who feel compelled to bring him down now, through truthful or false means, he's not going to be president, so whatever effort you're putting into "getting" him, it's not really worth your time or money or blood or sweat or tears.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:18 PM (fdUnk)

144 I enjoyed it, and the twist ending.
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So did I.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2023 12:18 PM (h8jQF)

145 "democracy" = democrat autocracy

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 26, 2023 12:18 PM (vHIgi)

146 Americans Vote Too Much.

This is especially true if one's party relies on low voter turnout to falsify results. Elections are invalid on the face of them when vote tally exceeds voter registration numbers. But for some reason those who certify elections do not make that simple check.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 26, 2023 12:18 PM (ga8qR)

147 I meant in elections especially local, as that's where everyone starts. School boards get their power from off year elections where nobody but teachers vote.
You a cop? No vote for you.
You a municipal employee? No vote for you.
You on the city council? No vote for you.
You a DMV employee lives here? No vote.
Etc.
No amount of money can overcome flatly divesting ANY government employee of their vote. THAT is what I mean.
You working on a Boeing contract paid for by taxpayer money?
No vote for you.
I'm dead serious.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 12:18 PM (43xH1)

148 Nefarious. Looks interesting. Plus the prisoner is played by Sean Patrick Flannery, who was in Boondock Saints, and appears to be Christian or at least Christian-adjacent.
Posted by: Might rent it this weekend at August 26, 2023 12:13 PM (fhX0j)

Thank you! I was wondering if I had the title right

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:19 PM (Q/v9F)

149 Yes I live in a town with so little crime that the police actually have time to do this, lol.

The detective investigating my random assault case called me to apologize, he was being taken off bcuz 2020 riot duty. Thanks antifa, blm and George fentanyl Floyd fags.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 26, 2023 12:19 PM (sHRkV)

150 “Well that's one argument for, but I'm on the side of "no more wars" these days. Unless they're invading these borders (which of course they are, where they are), we don't get involved.”

While I am not an interventionist (DIME! Use it!), I’m not a fan of Whiny America either. Making America a whiny, toothless country has its allure, especially people who don’t study history. (Isolationism is always fun until it bites us in the ass, which it always does.)

We tried this in the 1930s and it didn’t turn out too well. Again, I’m no fan of going into Ukraine, at all, especially when Russia’s center of gravity is oil and that you can bankrupt the government by drilling for oil like mad (save it! Russia’s government is financed by OIL, not be wheat, diamonds, nickel, etc. look it up, it’s easy). Nor am I am fan of going most places. But I’d much rather use all our resources to nip things in the bud early on, rather than pay a higher price later. That means using DIME. Sometimes that means M - military. Avoid at all costs, but keep it as an option.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:20 PM (f0XAF)

151 I went to church with an old Norwegian couple who bought a Dodge Demon in 1972. They bought it and didn't accept delivery until all the Demon badging was removed. Both Demon script and Demon decals. Guess they didn't want to take a chance on any summoning, and I don't blame them.

Posted by: Nordisk Tidende at August 26, 2023 12:20 PM (83IzV)

152 there is a recent indy movie out called Jones' Plantation.
It is like Animal Farm, from the other direction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0OTg3aZc-Y

Posted by: Kindltot at August 26, 2023 12:20 PM (xhaym)

153 138 - Muldoon… that was amazing! Especially on short notice. You’ve outdone even yourself LoL

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:20 PM (Q/v9F)

154 Every soul has 2 possibilities. The one you seek is the one you get. If you seek demons, you will find them. If you seek God, you will find God.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 26, 2023 12:20 PM (MeG8a)

155 ALL: With many cheerful facts about the men who want a uterus!!
Posted by: Muldoon at August 26, 2023 12:17 PM (991eG)

Hah!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 12:20 PM (KCAh3)

156 19 Random thought. There is an opera, Nixon In China, about (try to follow me here) Nixon going to China. It's well thought of although I didn't care for it, too modern. But what the world needs now is a comic opera, Biden In Hawaii.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:26 AM (FVME7)
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I saw that on PBS back in the day. It didn't make much of an impression on me apart from a hilarious demon in Kissinger form, and a smug Madam Mao simpering over her production of Red Detachment of Women.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at August 26, 2023 12:20 PM (h3wbV)

157 It's very rarely that you find people with positive views of HOAs. It is mostly horror stories of fees and fines, combined with busybodies, if not out-right embezzlers. Of how their freedom to do what they want with their land and their property is curtailed by the HOA's.

_____

HOA's are a little taste of fascism.

Left one years ago, will go out of my way to never go back.

It's just a great example of why I hate Big Government. You give people more power and authority, and they will abuse it.

The times I had hoped the HOA would actually "save the day" they would throw their hands up and say they are powerless.

Posted by: Blago at August 26, 2023 12:21 PM (cOFom)

158 I know what all these coordinated headlines are aiming at.

One of the big prog pushes that most people are not aware of (yet) is to hand large chunks of government authority to unelected "expert" panels, taking decision-making for those topics out of the hands of the legislature or executive. The panels would be supplemented by citizens selected by lottery to slap a veneer of "democracy" on them, although there is some argument on whether specific stereotypical prog victim groups would have quotas which themselves are filled by lottery.

They're already starting test runs of this on the state and local level in some places. Obviously the idea is fucking retarded, but hey we're talking about the heirs of Lenin here so there you go.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2023 12:21 PM (p61dW)

159 I don't know about summoning demons. It seems they show up of their own accord. Maybe try summoning some angels instead.

Posted by: fd at August 26, 2023 12:21 PM (vFG9F)

160 She’s gone HOA! HOA!

Posted by: Daryl Hall at August 26, 2023 12:22 PM (y72mI)

161 I enjoyed "Nefarious." There are two scenes where LE does stuff that is not at all believable, but I recommend it nevertheless.

Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at August 26, 2023 12:22 PM (MvF+J)

162 Board certified psychiatrist, graduate of Columbia and Yale, discusses his book "Demonic Foes":

https://tinyurl.com/3xynrpcr
Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2023 12:17 PM (W33rP)

Prolly worth noting though, anyone who is a pee sigh chiatrist, wasn't smart enough to get a residency in pediatrics, or surgery, or ortho, or podiatry, or proctology, or any of the other glamor specialties.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:23 PM (qT++m)

163 P.S. Demons aren't playful

Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Demons probably consider themselves playful

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 26, 2023 12:23 PM (vHIgi)

164 I went to church with an old Norwegian couple who bought a Dodge Demon in 1972. They bought it and didn't accept delivery until all the Demon badging was removed. Both Demon script and Demon decals. Guess they didn't want to take a chance on any summoning, and I don't blame them.
Posted by: Nordisk Tidende

____

I think that's bordering the superstitious, but one thing that did raise my eyebrows is Dodge had a special edition Demon Hemi Challenger they just released that has 666 horsepower to be "cute".

Way too far imo

Posted by: Blago at August 26, 2023 12:23 PM (cOFom)

165 Muldoon!
You magnificent bastard!
I read your song!!!

Now Mrs D is wondering why I am laughing so hard...and getting pissed because I can't stop long enough to read it.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:24 PM (hv9bm)

166 "HOA's are a little taste of fascism."

Fed, state, county, district, municipality, and then HOA. How many layers of govt do you want?

Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at August 26, 2023 12:24 PM (MvF+J)

167 One of the biggest problems with government is that they have to continuously solve "problems". Take health care for instance; I had better access and understanding of healthcare services back in 1990. Since that time one political party has made healthcare a voting issue. Today, I pay more than ever and I don't even know what I am allowed to go to the doctor for. Congress forced a 13,000 page law onto us in a week that is basically corporate welfare for the medical industry.

They are constantly inventing problems to solve.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 26, 2023 12:24 PM (9dBi8)

168 It's not that leftists know nothing. It is that leftists know so much that is wrong... and believe with everything they are that it is correct.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at August 26, 2023 12:24 PM (17s+e)

169 One of the big prog pushes that most people are not aware of (yet) is to hand large chunks of government authority to unelected "expert" panels

Yep. Why vote for school district boards when "education experts" can do a much better job appointing "qualified" people to these boards?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2023 12:24 PM (2tUFv)

170 Politics, at least the "retail" version isn't for the everyman. It's too expensive to get involved in anything other than (to me) meaningless town councils, focus groups and the like with no power and typically with no backchannel to the actual local government. The HOA's around the country have more bite.

Even here in our rural slice of Kentucky I see the same faces for local, county and some city positions that can be construed as "government positions of authority." Anyone running in opposition is usually way, way out of touch with how the "system" works.

It's a systemic problem that affects our entire political institution. It cannot be fixed with "votes" or "elections." Those are corrupted as well.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 26, 2023 12:24 PM (Q4IgG)

171 155 ALL: With many cheerful facts about the men who want a uterus!!
Posted by: Muldoon at August 26, 2023 12:17 PM (991eG)

That's "persons with a uterus."

Posted by: Transphobe! at August 26, 2023 12:25 PM (fhX0j)

172 Not a facetious question:
What if you seek God and He sends you to face demons?

I'm not being facetious at all.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 12:25 PM (43xH1)

173 147: better idea. I’m serious. You work for government? Congratulations! You don’t get to belong to a union. Ever. I don’t care if you are a firefighter. Tough. 75% of the country is covered by firefighters who do the job FOR FREE. You’re a cop? Tough. Cops need to get over themselves anyway. They NEED to feel vulnerable so that way they might conduct themselves more professionally. Cops sure as all hell do not need to be part of a union.

AND TEACHERS SURE AS ALL HELL HAVE NO BUSINESS BELONGING TO A UNION. That will piss off a lot of teachers I know, but I’m sorry (not sorry). You take government money, kiss organizing bye bye.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:26 PM (f0XAF)

174 "147 I meant in elections especially local, as that's where everyone starts. School boards get their power from off year elections where nobody but teachers vote.
You a cop? No vote for you.
You a municipal employee? No vote for you.
You on the city council? No vote for you.
You a DMV employee lives here? No vote.
Etc.
No amount of money can overcome flatly divesting ANY government employee of their vote. THAT is what I mean.
You working on a Boeing contract paid for by taxpayer money?
No vote for you.
I'm dead serious.
Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 12:18 PM (43xH1)"

This is the core of the drive to prohibit public unions.

Anyways, the problem isn't this or term limits or whatever, the problem is our third branch has lawyers set up as the gatekeepers. We need a vigorous defense of plain-language laws, in a quantity that doesn't weasel around the need to effectively publish them (hat tip to Hammurabi here), and an iron-clad concept of citizens having standing to challenge them.

You cannot have rule of law when a man cannot read all of the laws, reading 8 hours a day for a lifetime - and then can't challenge those that run afoul of the Constitution.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2023 12:26 PM (p61dW)

175 39 Also, kids, there are no demons or monsters hiding under the bed.

**

That's exactly what an under-the-bed demon/monster would say

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 26, 2023 12:27 PM (vHIgi)

176 "What if you seek God and He sends you to face demons? "

I'd say that is typical. Seeking God offends every demon.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 26, 2023 12:27 PM (MeG8a)

177 Nor am I am fan of going most places. But I’d much rather use all our resources to nip things in the bud early on, rather than pay a higher price later. That means using DIME. Sometimes that means M - military. Avoid at all costs, but keep it as an option.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:20 PM (f0XAF)

Now, imagine if instead of spending 12 trillion dollars fighting perpetual war for the past 20 plus years, we'd spend at least SOME of that money modernizing the military, making it leaner (and meaner). We'd be better equipped to respond to threats around the globe.

Unlike now, when we no longer have any capability to enforce any international "interests" we may have.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:28 PM (qT++m)

178 If the car had 665HP or 667HP barely anyone would remember the number. So advertising wise, it was a canny move.

Posted by: 60 HP VW Bus at August 26, 2023 12:28 PM (83IzV)

179 matters urological

I need a Cardiurologist

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko stuff at August 26, 2023 12:29 PM (U2x9m)

180 162 Board certified psychiatrist, graduate of Columbia and Yale, discusses his book "Demonic Foes":

https://tinyurl.com/3xynrpcr
Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2023 12:17 PM (W33rP)

Prolly worth noting though, anyone who is a pee sigh chiatrist, wasn't smart enough to get a residency in pediatrics, or surgery, or ortho, or podiatry, or proctology, or any of the other glamor specialties.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:23 PM (qT++m)

There's always a Psycho-the-rapist...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:29 PM (ynpvh)

181 My HOA is pretty good. But then it is small, and I always volunteer for one of the easy things, like security, so I can keep an eye on it. And only $360/year.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:29 PM (hv9bm)

182

Palin warns of civil war.

McCabe says she's inciting violence.

Which no doubt means he wants her arrested.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at August 26, 2023 12:29 PM (GIEZS)

183 174: I have thought that Congress and state legislatures should have on staff one five year old. The five year old would be there to proofread bills. If the five year old can’t understand it on his/her own, the bill cannot be considered to become law.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:30 PM (f0XAF)

184 Speaking of demons and evil and whatnot - I think the evangelicals in the 70s and 80s really screwed the pooch. Satanic Panic and the utterly absurd nonsense they were spewing about plush toys and Saturday morning cartoons trivialized the existence of real evil and made it very easy to dismiss the notion as crankery by a pack of hysterical, weak-minded, frivolous zealous. A definite own-goal.

Posted by: The Smurfs! The Smurfs are blue skinned demons! No, really. at August 26, 2023 12:31 PM (fhX0j)

185 And I certainly wasn't going to vote for Hillary but I wasn't entirely gung ho for Trump until Hillary used that "Basket of Deplorables" line. It might have ginned up her base, but I thought it was incredibly myopic, stupid and nasty. I'm 'deplorable"? I think I'll go stand behind the man standing against YOU.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 12:31 PM (NpWq6)

186 One of the big prog pushes that most people are not aware of (yet) is to hand large chunks of government authority to unelected "expert" panels, taking decision-making for those topics out of the hands of the legislature or executive. The panels would be supplemented by citizens selected by lottery to slap a veneer of "democracy" on them, although there is some argument on whether specific stereotypical prog victim groups would have quotas which themselves are filled by lottery.

They're already starting test runs of this on the state and local level in some places. Obviously the idea is fucking retarded, but hey we're talking about the heirs of Lenin here so there you go.
Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2023 12:21 PM (p61dW)

I'm sure that's true. It's got to be painfully obvious, that the ebb and flow of who controls any legislature, has the effect of slowing down their "progress" toward total control.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:31 PM (qT++m)

187 AND TEACHERS SURE AS ALL HELL HAVE NO BUSINESS BELONGING TO A UNION. That will piss off a lot of teachers I know, but I’m sorry (not sorry). You take government money, kiss organizing bye bye.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

Now do Nurses.
A hospital full of patients and the nurses strike.
Those nurses who are working at the time the strike starts are legally obligated to not abandon their patients.
Think about that... every one that leaves is breaking the law and the patient's trust.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 12:31 PM (Y/MO8)

188 182

Palin warns of civil war.

McCabe says she's inciting violence.

Which no doubt means he wants her arrested.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at August 26, 2023 12:29 PM (GIEZS)

"Why is the pilot flying the plane into the ground?"
"Why do you say? Are you trying to make the plane crash?!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:32 PM (ynpvh)

189 "You terrorist!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:32 PM (ynpvh)

190 137 Board certified psychiatrist, graduate of Columbia and Yale, discusses his book "Demonic Foes":

***

Interesting book

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 26, 2023 12:32 PM (vHIgi)

191 I'd pay good money to see some Barbie House style HOA deal with my hood. Cameras here aren't shit, they catch so much criminality it just gets lost in the noise. We had a guy get shot and run off from camera range. A few days later a resident smelled something and found the dead dude between his garage and his neighbors.
Unsolved!

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 12:32 PM (43xH1)

192 "What if you seek God and He sends you to face demons? "

I'd say that is typical. Seeking God offends every demon.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 26, 2023 12:27 PM (MeG8a)
***

Pretty much what happened in my golf game last week. I called on God several time in just the first three holes. His Son too. I don't think He liked my tone of voice though. Demons everywhere taking the form of a tree branch that wasn't there before, OB stakes, and the evil water hazard demon. I really hate that bastard.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:32 PM (hv9bm)

193 Posted by: The Smurfs! The Smurfs are blue skinned demons! No, really. at August 26, 2023 12:31 PM (fhX0j)

I wasn't an evangelical in the 70's or early 80's. Had no affect on me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 12:32 PM (NpWq6)

194 I need a Cardiurologist
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko

You want a urologist to work on your heart.
That's going to piss off many cartologists!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 12:33 PM (Y/MO8)

195 Prolly worth noting though, anyone who is a pee sigh chiatrist, wasn't smart enough to

do you have access to all their IQ tests? How do you arrive at that assessment?

This guy was obviously smart enough to receive advanced degrees from Ivy League schools at a time when those institutions actually delivered a classical academic education, part of which observed the scientific method.

Other than that, I don't even know what your point is, other than you want to dismiss the guy before you even took five minutes to view his presentation.

Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2023 12:34 PM (W33rP)

196 >>> "What if you seek God and He sends you to face demons? "

I'd say that is typical. Seeking God offends every demon.

Posted by: gourmand du jour

>Then you'll never become rich and famous, and your social influence will never reach beyond 4,439,622 followers.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 12:34 PM (KVGVf)

197 Posted by: The Smurfs! The Smurfs are blue skinned demons! No, really. at August 26, 2023 12:31 PM (fhX0j)

smurf
smûrf
intransitive verb

1) To disable (a computer network) with a smurf attack.
2) To engage in a smurf attack.
3) To buy as much pseudoephedrine as is legally permitted in each of numerous stores over a wide area in order to obtain enough to produce methamphetamine.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:34 PM (ynpvh)

198 "What if you seek God and He sends you to face demons? "

Taking fire tells you you're close to the target.

Did you think it would be easy?

Posted by: pawn at August 26, 2023 12:35 PM (wsHtO)

199 You want a urologist to work on your heart.
That's going to piss off many cartologists!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 12:33 PM (Y/MO

And to get a colonoscopy, you need to go to a fartographer.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 12:35 PM (KCAh3)

200 191 "Camera footage revealed suspect in hoodie and mask." 99% of the time.

Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at August 26, 2023 12:36 PM (MvF+J)

201 Not a facetious question:
What if you seek God and He sends you to face demons?

I'm not being facetious at all.
Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 12:25 PM (43xH1)

I knew a guy, who has since died, who spent the majority of his life "fighting demons," and when it came time for him to die, he wasn't scared at all. He knew he had been a warrior for decades, even though everyone else thought he was crazy. He didn't fear death, because he knew his reward was imminent.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:36 PM (qT++m)

202 Palin warns of civil war.

McCabe says she's inciting violence.

Which no doubt means he wants her arrested.
Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at August 26, 2023 12:29 PM (GIEZS)
***

We of the Horde are encouraged to buy moar ammo every week.
McCabe would have us arrested as well.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:36 PM (hv9bm)

203 153 138 - Muldoon… that was amazing! Especially on short notice. You’ve outdone even yourself LoL

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:20 PM (Q/v9F)

It's on a loop in my head... with a giggle between.
Outfukenstanding!!

Posted by: Reforger at August 26, 2023 12:36 PM (B705c)

204
It pains me to say something that's in sort of agreement with that shitstain Paul, but I don't believe in demons either. Humanity is perfectly capable of perpetrating the most horrible evils imaginable, without the help of the demonic horde. Karl Marx for example. Just a man, but almost singlehandedly responsible for bloodletting on a scale that would make the devil himself quake in terror. All because he was too lazy to get out and earn an honest living. Engels could have done the world a solid by cutting off Karl's meal ticket and forcing him to get a job as a chimney sweep.

But here's the important thing: I could be wrong about demons, I know I could be wrong.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 26, 2023 12:36 PM (n+4am)

205 Demon summoning?

Leftist trying to argue the non existence of the soul.

Would need more popcorn.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2023 12:36 PM (BlJUs)

206 Pretty much what happened in my golf game last week. I called on God several time in just the first three holes. His Son too. I don't think He liked my tone of voice though. Demons everywhere taking the form of a tree branch that wasn't there before, OB stakes, and the evil water hazard demon. I really hate that bastard.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:32 PM (hv9bm)

LoL… you pretty well summarize why I don’t play anymore. I was NOT a pleasant person to be around on the golf course

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:37 PM (xT8gx)

207 Hayward's smart, and very well versed on the varieties of conservatism. Unfortunately, like all Straussians, he is dishonest about intellectual history. They wave their wands and shout "Esoterica", and then put in any old thing they like. Very much like French postmodern Marxists.

Actually, the Times has a point. I've long thought random selection would be an improvement. "Meritocracy" really means "people like us." I recall that Chesterton used that as an argument for monarchy as the second most democratic form of government. While it doesn't say that every man can be king, it does say that any man can.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 26, 2023 12:37 PM (brAQZ)

208 Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:23 PM (qT++m)

There's always a Psycho-the-rapist...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:29 PM (ynpvh)

Don't get me started on psychology school. Boy, do they churn out some tremendous idiots.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:37 PM (qT++m)

209 Well as far as facing demons I'll give it to Fen, doesn't she live in New York?

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 12:38 PM (43xH1)

210 And to get a colonoscopy, you need to go to a fartographer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

********

For early detection they no longer use a canary (like in the coal mines)...

...they use a stool pigeon.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 26, 2023 12:39 PM (991eG)

211 I need a Cardiurologist
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko

You want a urologist to work on your heart.
That's going to piss off many cartologists!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 26, 2023 12:33 PM (Y/MO

Did somebody say Proctologist?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:39 PM (hv9bm)

212 "Then you'll never become rich and famous, and your social influence will never reach beyond 4,439,622 followers."

I did my best, and yes, I admit, the world has failed to fall at my feet. LOL

Posted by: gourmand du jour at August 26, 2023 12:39 PM (MeG8a)

213 206 Pretty much what happened in my golf game last week. I called on God several time in just the first three holes. His Son too. I don't think He liked my tone of voice though. Demons everywhere taking the form of a tree branch that wasn't there before, OB stakes, and the evil water hazard demon. I really hate that bastard.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:32 PM (hv9bm)

LoL… you pretty well summarize why I don’t play anymore. I was NOT a pleasant person to be around on the golf course

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:37 PM (xT8gx)

Friend tryed to get me into golf. Told me how frustrating playing the game was. Told him that, as I was not a masochist, golf didn't sound like the game for me.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

214 Democracy is mob rule, communism is about the same, theocracy (fanatic edition) is the same except you get to choose from three options. None of those options are very attractive. I choose the Constitutional form of government, so whatever it takes to cut the current rot away let's get at it. America, our patient, is dying.

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 12:40 PM (z3WCn)

215 Now, imagine if instead of spending 12 trillion dollars fighting perpetual war for the past 20 plus years, we'd spend at least SOME of that money modernizing the military, making it leaner (and meaner). We'd be better equipped to respond to threats around the globe.

Unlike now, when we no longer have any capability to enforce any international "interests" we may have.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:28 PM (qT++m)

We haven’t?

That has been our obsession for YEARS. Now, I have my own views on this that I can’t get into here - just not enough time for the specifics - but consolidation of supply chains can go a long way. A good chunk of that $12T could be saved doing that alone. By the way, perhaps you missed out on the KC-46 replacing the KC-135s? Or the fact that we could have spent some money on fully upgrading to the F-22, but His Majesty The Shahinshah whined in 2009 that since we spend more money on defense than the rest of the world combined.

Oh, and when something like 9/11/01 happens, call me crazy but my response isn’t curl up into a ball and 1) bawl 2) pout 3) whine.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:40 PM (f0XAF)

216 Just skip the Candiruologist.

Or should you?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2023 12:40 PM (BlJUs)

217 do you have access to all their IQ tests? How do you arrive at that assessment?

This guy was obviously smart enough to receive advanced degrees from Ivy League schools at a time when those institutions actually delivered a classical academic education, part of which observed the scientific method.

Other than that, I don't even know what your point is, other than you want to dismiss the guy before you even took five minutes to view his presentation.

Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2023 12:34 PM (W33rP)

Yes, I have access to his IQ tests. And obviously anyone getting into Ivy League schools is better than anyone else.

My point is, which I think should be self-evident, is that depending on one's credentials to determine the value of their opinions, is dangerous. If the past several years haven't proven that, I don't know what to say.

Trust the science.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:40 PM (qT++m)

218 LoL… you pretty well summarize why I don’t play anymore. I was NOT a pleasant person to be around on the golf course
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:37 PM (xT8gx)

I joined the local senior men's club and have been having a blast. But last week the wheels came off. No idea what I was doing wrong but had the worst round in over then years. It was horrible. I was vexed!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:41 PM (hv9bm)

219 207 ... I've long thought random selection would be an improvement. "Meritocracy" really means "people like us."

Posted by: Eeyore at August 26, 2023 12:37 PM (brAQZ)

It would never be random selection; who selects the "random" selectors?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

220 Camera footage revealed person of medium height, medium build, wearing crocs, sweatpants and hoodie. Where IS Wyatt when we need him?

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 12:41 PM (43xH1)

221 "spend at least SOME of that money modernizing the military"

How much would it cost to unwoke our military? That would be money well spent.

Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at August 26, 2023 12:41 PM (MvF+J)

222 Every time I see a clown, I'm pretty sure they are possessed by a demon.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 12:41 PM (tRWwW)

223 My HOA is pretty good. But then it is small, and I always volunteer for one of the easy things, like security, so I can keep an eye on it. And only $360/year.
Posted by: Diogenes
___

That's almost in a whole different category than the HOA's I'm talking about. That's almost like what we have now, but it's just friendly neighbors pooling some resources together to take care of small things like common areas.

I'm talking about the HOA's that bring in a corporation with lawyers to execute what's in the bylaws and your monthly payment is like a car payment.

Posted by: Blago at August 26, 2023 12:42 PM (cOFom)

224 210 And to get a colonoscopy, you need to go to a fartographer.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

********

For early detection they no longer use a canary (like in the coal mines)...

...they use a stool pigeon.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 26, 2023 12:39 PM (991eG)

Gerbil

Posted by: Richard Gere at August 26, 2023 12:42 PM (ynpvh)

225 Has Boeing and the USAF fixed the remote viewing system the KC-46 uses for the boomer to pass gas?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2023 12:42 PM (BlJUs)

226 My point is, which I think should be self-evident,

oh, sorry, it went right over my head!

I'm not as smart as you. But probably smarter than the author of Demonic Foes, though, 'cause I'm not a psychiatrist.

Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2023 12:43 PM (W33rP)

227 My son has had need of a Psychiatrist for meds. The guy is probably in his mid 70's. He went to law school, worked as a lawyer for some time, decided he didn't like that and went back to medical school and became a psychiatrist. He's also an Othodox Jew, so I expect that he may believe in demons. He certainly believes in God, so I don't think it's a question of psychiatry automatically being a lesser medical specialization. I also asked him once why he hadn't retired. He said, "Because I need to pay off my students loans" which I thought was admirable of him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 12:43 PM (NpWq6)

228 I'm convinced CW2 would trigger WW3.

If we descend into chaos China and other bad actors would make major moves.

Posted by: Not trying to be mean but... at August 26, 2023 12:44 PM (GIEZS)

229 The Navy just wasted $200 million upgrading USS Boxer and now the ship can't leave port without suffering an engineering casualty.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2023 12:44 PM (BlJUs)

230 For leisure, I watch lotsa cop bodycam footage. I see them deal with plenty of demons.

Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at August 26, 2023 12:45 PM (MvF+J)

231 222 Every time I see a clown, I'm pretty sure they are possessed by a demon.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 12:41 PM (tRWwW)

The entirety of Congress seems to be demon-possessed clowns these days.

Posted by: Richard Gere at August 26, 2023 12:45 PM (ynpvh)

232 I joined the local senior men's club and have been having a blast. But last week the wheels came off. No idea what I was doing wrong but had the worst round in over then years. It was horrible. I was vexed!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:41 PM (hv9bm)

I remember a quip: "Golf. An activity in which men dressed in funny pants attempt to put a small white pill into a hole in a cow pasture, with implements singularly unsuited to the job."

I may have messed it up a little.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 12:45 PM (KCAh3)

233 off sock. ugh.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:45 PM (ynpvh)

234 Friend tryed to get me into golf. Told me how frustrating playing the game was. Told him that, as I was not a masochist, golf didn't sound like the game for me.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

Cow pasture pool.
Or as Mark Twain said, A good walk spoiled.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:46 PM (hv9bm)

235 I have thought that Congress and state legislatures should have on staff one five year old. The five year old would be there to proofread bills. If the five year old can’t understand it on his/her own, the bill cannot be considered to become law.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33
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My version of this is that any congresscritter proposing a bill longer than 2 pages (single-sided, double-spaced, 12+ point font, at least 1 inch margins) will be flung from the chambers by trebuchet.

Posted by: screaming in digital at August 26, 2023 12:47 PM (aBJcM)

236 By the way, perhaps you missed out on the KC-46 replacing the KC-135s?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:40 PM (f0XAF)

Yes, I missed that. I don't even know what those are. I don't follow weapons porn.

My point was, which again I thought was obvious, is that SENDING our military all across the globe has accomplished precisely squat.

Unless one thinks killing thousands and thousands and thousands of foreigners, and bringing home Americans in body bags, or broken beyond repair, is an accomplishment.

I have no doubt there are many little beetles in many big weapons manufacturing R and D departments, coming up with ALL SORTS of new and spectacular ways to kill people. But in the mean time, we've run out of ammo, and we can't build anything that doesn't have Chi Nah parts that are necessary for their production.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:47 PM (gcMSc)

237 177: also, I knew a guy as a grad student who vehemently argued that we should have responded in one way, and one way only, to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor: apologize. After all, they wouldn’t have attacked had we just sold them everything they wanted and not moved our fleet from San Diego to Pearl Harbor. (That both locations were American territory was lost on him.). As WWII wasn’t our fight, the ONLY thing we should have done, in his view, is made money off Germany and Japan. “it wasn’t our fight” he said.
Now, maybe that’s how you see things and your response to things like 9/11 is to simply pout and whine, but likewise I can’t see not responding to that. Would I have done things differently? Sure. Staying in Afghanistan longer than 3-5 years was needless. But sorry, I’m not an always go in guns blazing type, but I’m not a pacifist or isolationist either.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:48 PM (f0XAF)

238 Well I’m off to the running shoe store to get a new pair. Now that my bionic knee is rehabbed and I’m back to jogging short distances of 3 miles or less I need to get a brand new pair of running shoes to provide as much support and shock absorption as possible…. This prosthetic isn’t gonna last forever but I don’t want to do the surgery again real soon…. (My orthopedist did bless my plan to run again; very thankful as I know some don’t)

Have a great day, Horde

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at August 26, 2023 12:48 PM (xT8gx)

239 How much would it cost to unwoke our military? That would be money well spent.
Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at August 26, 2023 12:41 PM (MvF+J)

We don't have printing presses fast enough to create that much money.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:49 PM (gcMSc)

240 I'm on several bodycam videos and have been informed I'm not a demon, I'm just an asshole. Also funny in an insulting way. I once got sent a rookie on a neighbor complaint and heard back he got mocked so hard he quit.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 12:49 PM (43xH1)

241 I find it sometimes very strange what people believe. This thread is a good example.

Posted by: Dr. Pork Chops & Bacons at August 26, 2023 12:49 PM (BdMk6)

242 I remember a quip: "Golf. An activity in which men dressed in funny pants attempt to put a small white pill into a hole in a cow pasture, with implements singularly unsuited to the job."

I may have messed it up a little.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 12:45 PM (KCAh3)
***

My pants are not funny. Basic slacks, I'll have you know.
It is the Michael Jackson sport though. Everyone only wears one glove.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:49 PM (hv9bm)

243 oh, sorry, it went right over my head!

I'm not as smart as you. But probably smarter than the author of Demonic Foes, though, 'cause I'm not a psychiatrist.
Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2023 12:43 PM (W33rP)

How about you just don't get your feelings hurt about an off-hand comment about the dangers of trusting in credentials.

You could start with that. That would make you smarter.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:50 PM (gcMSc)

244 237 177:

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:48 PM (f0XAF)

Rush Limbaugh made the point that armies are good at two things: killing people and breaking things. They are not meant for "peace keeping", whatever that phrase means or was tortured to mean.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

245 Tinfoilbaby @ 222-
10-4 on the clowns.

Posted by: Eromero at August 26, 2023 12:51 PM (z3WCn)

246 So which demon did they try to summon?

Lilith? Pazuzu? Felonius von Pantsuit?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2023 12:51 PM (BlJUs)

247 My pants are not funny. Basic slacks, I'll have you know.
It is the Michael Jackson sport though. Everyone only wears one glove.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:49 PM (hv9bm)

Dates back to when golfers wore Plus Fours, I think.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 12:51 PM (KCAh3)

248 Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 26, 2023 12:52 PM (NBVIP)

249 When I was a kid we lived in a small college town in Nebraska for a year. One day the parents took us to tag along for a round of golf at the local course. It was pretty much just mowed cow pasture fairways and had sand greens. You had to smooth out the greens when you were done putting.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 12:52 PM (tRWwW)

250 237
'to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor: apologize.'

Was your friend an America hating communist?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 26, 2023 12:53 PM (roH4R)

251 If elites have given up on representative democracy, in favor of fascism, I wonder how they'll react when SCOTUS decides the Axon, Michelle Cochran and Atlantic herring fisherman cases. All of these limit agency discretion and undermine the illegal arrangements by which agencies write laws, prosecute violators, and decide judicial outcomes all by themselves.

Posted by: Philip Hamburger for SCOTUS at August 26, 2023 12:53 PM (fqcG3)

252 246 So which demon did they try to summon?

Lilith? Pazuzu? Felonius von Pantsuit?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2023 12:51 PM (BlJUs)

Beelzebubba, her husband? I think he may be more of an incubus.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:53 PM (ynpvh)

253 Lilith is a child-eater and baby-eater, in all the Middle Eastern mythologies. What. The. Heck. Is family-friendly about such a thing?

Unless Red Lobster is lobster-inclusive.

Posted by: suburbanbanshee at August 26, 2023 12:53 PM (cHUaN)

254 Go Off, Leave Family.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 26, 2023 12:54 PM (NBVIP)

255 Interestingly, 4,439,622 was the number of votes the Biden Campaign was able to muster to win the general election.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 12:54 PM (KVGVf)

256 250 237
'to the Japanese after Pearl Harbor: apologize.'

Was your friend an America hating communist?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 26, 2023 12:53 PM (roH4R)

"We're sorry you decided to wake up the sleeping Giant. Prepare to get your asses handed to you"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:54 PM (ynpvh)

257 253 Lilith is a child-eater and baby-eater, in all the Middle Eastern mythologies. What. The. Heck. Is family-friendly about such a thing?

Unless Red Lobster is lobster-inclusive.

Posted by: suburbanbanshee at August 26, 2023 12:53 PM (cHUaN)

Planned-Parenthood approves of Lilith as being family-friendly.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

258 Didn't Lilith make Frazier's dog go crazy?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:56 PM (hv9bm)

259 But sorry, I’m not an always go in guns blazing type, but I’m not a pacifist or isolationist either.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 12:48 PM (f0XAF)

Well alright then. Neither am I. And I don't know what I said that gave you the impression I was. There's a massively wide gap between opposing perpetual war, and being a pacifist, or even an isolationist.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 12:56 PM (myFbX)

260 To the non beleiving Leftists Lilith is this STRONK woman who told G-d and Adam off.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2023 12:56 PM (BlJUs)

261 at this point, anyone running against Trump is the Vichy Candidate

Like the Vichy French who collaborated with the Nazi occupation

Posted by: Fenrisulven at August 26, 2023 12:58 PM (+LcMo)

262 Is Kumala a suck-a-bus?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

263 260 To the non beleiving Leftists Lilith is this STRONK woman who told G-d and Adam off.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2023 12:56 PM (BlJUs)

Explains why they love Satan then; he "told G-d" off too.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

264 'Elections Are Bad for Democracy'

The way elections are conducted in the US are very bad for *my* opinion of democracy. Why give a bunch of assholes an apparent mandate and justification to unleash criminal organizations like the 'Justice' Dept., IRS, FBI, etc. on you because they don't like the way you think or speak.
We'd be as well off with cliques and warlords.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 26, 2023 01:00 PM (roH4R)

265 Rush Limbaugh made the point that armies are good at two things: killing people and breaking things. They are not meant for "peace keeping", whatever that phrase means or was tortured to mean.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

I remember being online after 9/11, and arguing that a few well-placed strikes could accomplish the task of convincing the terrorists to not bring their shit here.

But somewhere along the line, the R party, and their weapons manufacturing overlords, went all in on perpetual war. And called it "peacekeeping."

Whenever the government shows up and says they're there to keep the peace, things are about to get worse.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 01:00 PM (myFbX)

266 Later gang.
I gotta go to the store.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 01:01 PM (hv9bm)

267 at this point, anyone running against Trump is the Vichy Candidate

Like the Vichy French who collaborated with the Nazi occupation
Posted by: Fenrisulven at August 26, 2023 12:58 PM (+LcMo)

I wonder how many people, "educated" in modern schools, will even begin to get that reference?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 01:01 PM (KCAh3)

268 "Like, maybe Aristotle, in The Politics, Book IV, 1294be."

That's an old dead white guy, right?
[snif]

Posted by: Stupid Young Whippersnappers at August 26, 2023 01:01 PM (Rbu5d)

269 “Yes, I missed that. I don't even know what those are. I don't follow weapons porn.” Yet you whined that for all the trillions we spend on the military, we don’t invest in improving it. I point out where we have. You sneer, dripping with contempt, “I don’t follow weapons porn”. You should. You won’t look as silly.

“My point was, which again I thought was obvious, is that SENDING our military all across the globe has accomplished precisely squat.” Really? It worked in Europe during the Cold War.

You take a LOT of things for granted, including the fact that this country doesn’t exist out of the kindness of our enemies’ hearts. Tell me, what did you want to happen after 9/11, a big pout and whine session? I on the other hand wanted something done about it. Weird, huh?

Funny how you mention “we run out of ammo”. You very cheerfully voted for politicians that allowed that to happen. And did you know that 30years ago the argument was that we can’t build anything without Japan parts necessary for their production? In today’s time, we have a country headed by governments on many levels that are extremely hostile to business.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 01:02 PM (f0XAF)

270 Oddly? I do not believe in demons either despite my Church's full recognition. You'd think I would, but I don't. I'm fine with other's belief in them though. It's understandable. Rather, I find a belief in demonology a logical explanation for otherwise inexplicable behavior. You can, if you want. I won't other than gently mock the belief.
I'm adamant about dreams though. Those are mine. Nobody outside of me enters them. I won't countenance any of that dream shit.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 01:02 PM (43xH1)

271 "Elections are bad for democracy."

We concur.

Posted by: Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin and Mao at August 26, 2023 01:03 PM (cCxiu)

272 News from the word of medicine. In the past month or so, the FDA has approved two different new vaccines for RSV. Arexvy (Glaxo-Smith-Klne) and Abrysvo (Pfizer).

Interestingly, Pfizer and GSK had entered into a joint venture a few years ago, and these vaccines emerged from that time frame. The joint venture has since been dissolved and they each are releasing their own version of the vax.

Both vaccines use a Chinese hamster ovary cell line in culture, via recombinant DNA technology to produce a protein (different protein for each of the two vaccines, but same process) that is purified, lyophilized (freeze-dried) and packaged for distribution. These are NOT mRNA vaccines. Oddly enough, the measured dose of RSV protein for both vaccines is exactly the same- 120 mcg. (cont)

Posted by: Muldoon at August 26, 2023 01:03 PM (991eG)

273 Arexvy was approved for use in elderly patients and is meant to protect high-risk elderly in particular. Will probably be marketed to the general elderly population and not just those most likell to benefit (cancer patients, asthma, COPD, llongterm smokers, etc.)

Posted by: Muldoon at August 26, 2023 01:04 PM (991eG)

274 270 ...
I'm adamant about dreams though. Those are mine. Nobody outside of me enters them. I won't countenance any of that dream shit.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 01:02 PM (43xH1)

Had a dream once. My mother was digging some weeds and I came up to her and asked her what she was doing. She turned around to me, with a scowl on her face and said, "GET OUT of my DREAM!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

275 106
'I waded into the shit surf that is known as reddit'

I have gone on there less and less. They just cannot shut up about their leftism.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 26, 2023 01:04 PM (roH4R)

276 271 "Elections are bad for democracy."

We concur.

Posted by: Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin and Mao at August 26, 2023 01:03 PM (cCxiu)

The lefties want a Pol-Pot in every municipality.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:05 PM (ynpvh)

277 Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 01:02 PM (f0XAF)

Whatever. Your arguments are full of straw, and they're not with me. Whoever it is you're mad at, you should look into talking to them, because I'm done here.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 26, 2023 01:05 PM (myFbX)

278 I like how folks think the SCROTUM is gonna protect everything.

The SCROTUM protects nothing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 26, 2023 01:06 PM (R/m4+)

279 Continuing from 269: maybe vote in governments that are not hostile to business and committed to running off businesses through excessive taxation and regulation? Maybe vote in school boards that educate our kids so businesses will have a labor pool that and add 2+2 instead of worrying about their pronouns and who they want to fuck and how that makes ALL the difference?

And finally, maybe elect a government that isn’t isolationist, takes the outside world seriously, and makes it known that if you look at a U.S. citizen wrong, you do so at your great personal risk? The concept of deterrence which we got away from in the 1990s saves a LOT of money. I’d argue if we did more deterrence in the 1990s and took things seriously we’d still have the WTC towers, 3000 people and a few trillion in change.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 26, 2023 01:06 PM (f0XAF)

280 jim, that is damn near the funniest dream story I've EVER heard!
HAHAHAHA!

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 01:07 PM (43xH1)

281 Abrysvo OTOH was approved both for elderly individuals and pregnant women after one-year results of an onngoing phase 3 randomized, placebo controlled clinical trial in multiple countries. Neither of the two vaccines is approved for direct administration to the patient population most heavily affected by RSV, infants less than 2 years old, in particular ex-premature infants. The vaccine is instead given to expectant mothers at 32-36 weeks gestation, the mother's immune system produces antibodies and the antibodies cross the placental barrier into the fetal bloodstream. The baby does not produce antibodies. The maternal antibodies remain in the circulation for up to 6 months following birth, providing "passive immunity for the child for just that time period.

This presents a problem, since RSV is a seasonal virus that mostly occurs in Oct to Mar, and babies are born all year. Plus, the six month protection window will not always coincide with the highest risk season. I suspect it will be offered year round in spite of this shortcoming.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 26, 2023 01:07 PM (991eG)

282 Re: malice in wonderland...

It will be "discovered" that all the psychotherapeutic being washed down the gullet of people who really don't need them are harmful to the brain and endocrine systems.

A more disciplined and ascetical lifestyle (and better parenting...) would solve a lot of issues, I think. YMMV.

Posted by: Stupid Young Whippersnappers at August 26, 2023 01:08 PM (Rbu5d)

283 I am just guessing that when they say "the worst people run for office" they mean Trump and not Biden or say Fetterman.

Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2023 01:08 PM (dWjpk)

284 Hot out thar.

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 01:09 PM (T4tVD)

285 jim, was your mother alive?

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 01:09 PM (43xH1)

286 285 jim, was your mother alive?

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 01:09 PM (43xH1)

At that time, yes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

287 Is this the wrong thread to complain about a—h—-s who walk their dogs to neighbors’ yards so the thing can poop ?

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at August 26, 2023 01:10 PM (k8gME)

288 "Elections are bad for democracy."

Eventually, somebody will listen.

Both sides, and it is both - you're just on the losing side right now so it feels different - want a Benevolent Monarch. The argument, politically, is all about the definition of Benevolent. The new twist, such as it is, is that now Democrats are Globalist while a minority of Republicans are flirting with Nationalism.

That's it. Shit can all the ideology. All the weepy Peggy Noonan shit about a bygone era. Also all the good old days where the NeoCons would stand shoulder to shoulder with you to tax you to whip the Soviets. That's all gone.

Posted by: Its Been Something to See at August 26, 2023 01:12 PM (5TEj8)

289 Is this the wrong thread to complain about a—h—-s who walk their dogs to neighbors’ yards so the thing can poop ?
Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at August 26, 2023 01:10 PM (k8gME)

Ummmmmmm…..yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 26, 2023 01:12 PM (R/m4+)

290 252 Beelzebubba, her husband? I think he may be more of an incubus.

No, the dumbasses tried to summon me, but I was already present and eavesdropping.

Posted by: Beelze Bob at NSA at August 26, 2023 01:12 PM (cCxiu)

291 287 Is this the wrong thread to complain about a—h—-s who walk their dogs to neighbors’ yards so the thing can poop ?

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at August 26, 2023 01:10 PM (k8gME)

there should be a law against that! (See, I tied it in for ya).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

292 I'm outside, better conditions than inside where I was working this morning

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 01:13 PM (1/BRL)

293 Elections should have warnings like Viagra.
"If your election lasts longer than 1 day..."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:14 PM (ynpvh)

294 But out behind my outbuilding where my wifi isn't picking up

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 01:14 PM (MOY79)

295 Is this the wrong thread to complain about a—h—-s who walk their dogs to neighbors’ yards so the thing can poop ?

All you need is a really good air rifle. Some of the better airsoft toys will do the trick. For both the dog and the owner.

Or go old school. Squirter jug with diluted bleach.

Posted by: Its Been Something to See at August 26, 2023 01:14 PM (5TEj8)

296 There is a 20'x20' dog pooping area at the end of my apt building that has one of those free plastic poop bag things in the middle. I have been here 4 yrs and have yet to see anyone use it.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 01:15 PM (tRWwW)

297 FWP, my local WinnDixie has a bakery that makes French Baguettes every day. They are really good when fresh. Anyways, for years they cost $1. Then the price went up to $1.25 about a year ago. Yesterday they were $1.49. A 50% increase over the last two years.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 01:15 PM (aD39U)

298 Thank you for the story and answer.
That is hilarious.
Get out of my dream!
She had a point. Happily gardening, asleep, having her own time, and this little snot nosed kid thinks he's going to harsh her cool.
GTFO.
Too funny.
I admit I defend my dreams, much like your Mom.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 01:16 PM (43xH1)

299 There is a 20'x20' dog pooping area at the end of my apt building that has one of those free plastic poop bag things in the middle. I have been here 4 yrs and have yet to see anyone use it.

The really, really good Airsoft rifles offer an x3 scope. And you won't be heard. Just don't slam the window.

Posted by: Its Been Something to See at August 26, 2023 01:16 PM (5TEj8)

300 296 There is a 20'x20' dog pooping area at the end of my apt building that has one of those free plastic poop bag things in the middle. I have been here 4 yrs and have yet to see anyone use it.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 01:15 PM (tRWwW)

cuz I'm a sneaky bastard

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2023 01:16 PM (us2H3)

301 The SCROTUM protects nothing.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 26, 2023 01:06 PM (R/m4+)
=============
They didn't larn you much back in yur shooldays, did they?

Posted by: Philip Hamburger for SCOTUS at August 26, 2023 01:16 PM (WfvTX)

302 "This guy was obviously smart enough to receive advanced degrees from Ivy League schools at a time when those institutions actually delivered a classical academic education, part of which observed the scientific method.

Other than that, I don't even know what your point is, other than you want to dismiss the guy before you even took five minutes to view his presentation.

Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2023 12:34 PM (W33rP)"

I was about to shit all over the ivy league thing, but you're right - go back far enough and brains were required even if they might have primarily been used to scam academia.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2023 01:17 PM (p61dW)

303 RIP Bob Barker

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2023 01:18 PM (h8jQF)

304 115 Kroger house brand diet cola 12pack overnight price rise from $4.39 to $5.79. Cripes.
Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at August 26, 2023 12:06 PM (MvF+J)

For years, I've purchased soda solely for drink mixers. This year, I've dramatically cut my alcohol consumption; thus, my soda purchases have become infrequent. Upon every occasion I actually shop for soda, I've had a, "holy shit" moment whilst looking at prices. I guess I picked the right year to ~~quit~~ greatly curtail drinking.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 26, 2023 01:18 PM (DTX3h)

305 296 There is a 20'x20' dog pooping area at the end of my apt building that has one of those free plastic poop bag things in the middle. I have been here 4 yrs and have yet to see anyone use it.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 01:15 PM (tRWwW)

What if they covered the entire area in plastic instead?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:18 PM (ynpvh)

306 shocker, shooting in south Boston

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2023 01:19 PM (us2H3)

307 "We of the Horde are encouraged to buy moar ammo every week.
McCabe would have us arrested as well.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2023 12:36 PM (hv9bm)"

The time to start being more circumspect with how, where, and what is posted was definitely a few years ago.

But yeah buy more ammo. 10k per shooter in the household, and don't store all of your eggs (or egg launchers) in one basket.

Posted by: somedood at August 26, 2023 01:19 PM (p61dW)

308 I'm outside, better conditions than inside where I was working this morning
Posted by: Skip

oof !

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 01:20 PM (T4tVD)

309 For years, I've purchased soda solely for drink mixers. This year, I've dramatically cut my alcohol consumption; thus, my soda purchases have become infrequent.

We'll all be back to making the big pitchers of Lipton Iced Tea at some point. Or the big jugs of Kool Aid for the kids.

Or beer by the keg.

Posted by: Its Been Something to See at August 26, 2023 01:20 PM (5TEj8)

310 HOAs? Meh This white guy is indifferent. I don't have rusted out car on blocks in my yard. I don't want to fly old glory on a 30' pole at the end of my driveway. I don't need to cite a limit for my neighbors garden gnome collection.

I am the ideal neighbor, except for the collection of heads in my freezer

Posted by: Regular joe at August 26, 2023 01:20 PM (nnp+f)

311 What if they covered the entire area in plastic instead?

Heh, they converted the tennis courts here to a dog park last year, of course it has plastic grass.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 01:20 PM (tRWwW)

312 303 RIP Bob Barker

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2023 01:18 PM (h8jQF)

Wow. Missed the century mark by about 4 months.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:20 PM (ynpvh)

313 11...P.S. Demons aren't playful
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 11:22 AM (NpWq6)

Only when they want to rope the unsuspecting in to their sin. Then WHAMMO!

Posted by: Question authority bumper sticker at August 26, 2023 01:20 PM (Rbu5d)

314 I am sure the thread to complain about neighbors dog is tomorrow afternoon

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 01:22 PM (MOY79)

315 Wow. Missed the century mark by about 4 months.
___

I can't even imagine seeing 70, much less 100.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2023 01:22 PM (h8jQF)

316 313 11...P.S. Demons aren't playful
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2023 11:22 AM (NpWq6)

Only when they want to rope the unsuspecting in to their sin. Then WHAMMO!

Posted by: Question authority bumper sticker at August 26, 2023 01:20 PM (Rbu5d)

Or perhaps playful in the way cats are with their prey.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:23 PM (ynpvh)

317 I don't want to hate these commie fan-girls. But I'm unable to resist without the aid of the Holy Spirit.

Posted by: setnaffa at August 26, 2023 01:23 PM (+V0Fm)

318 Other than that, I don't even know what your point is, other than you want to dismiss the guy before you even took five minutes to view his presentation.

Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2023 12:34 PM (W33rP)

In all fairness ? Given the time and place and race of the presenter ? Yeah, I dismiss that presentation as well.

For example, when I'm rolling through the hood and a certain Capitalist walks up to my truck window with a presentation ? No. That's a no. And by default, I feel the same about the Ivy League. I'll miss 90% bullshit for 1% effort.

Posted by: Its Been Something to See at August 26, 2023 01:23 PM (5TEj8)

319 Demon Summoning should be safe, legal and rare.

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 26, 2023 01:23 PM (WKME5)

320 IP Bob Barker

Posted by: SMH at what's coming

Seconded

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 01:24 PM (T4tVD)

321 315 Wow. Missed the century mark by about 4 months.
___

I can't even imagine seeing 70, much less 100.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2023 01:22 PM (h8jQF)

My aunt, four or five years ago, told me she only wanted to live to 97. At that point in time, she still had most of her mental faculties. She hit 100 this summer, and doesn't remember who I am now. Sad.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:24 PM (ynpvh)

322 Good Afternoon.!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear into the heart of killjoy leftists everywhere.

What a long time to spend in bed. 14 hours. Not bragging. But a good book by Lawrence Watt-Evans. That's the story. Been a while since a book kept my attention.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 26, 2023 01:24 PM (u82oZ)

323 comic opera, Biden In Hawaii.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 11:26 AM (FVME7)

Sorry, Hawaii isn't comical...
It would have to be a tragedy.

Posted by: Question authority bumper sticker at August 26, 2023 01:24 PM (Rbu5d)

324 Hello, Salty.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2023 01:24 PM (h8jQF)

325 320 IP Bob Barker

Posted by: SMH at what's coming

Seconded

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2023 01:24 PM (T4tVD)

you pee on Bob Barker? That's just not right; the guy just died.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:25 PM (ynpvh)

326 "No one is pro-demon summoning. But soemtimes it's better than the alternative (not summoning the demon)."

Posted by: Thesokorus at August 26, 2023 01:25 PM (WKME5)

327 The original girls on Price is Right is why I watched.

Holly, you have a soul. I'm sure of it.

Posted by: Its Been Something to See at August 26, 2023 01:25 PM (5TEj8)

328 267 at this point, anyone running against Trump is the Vichy Candidate

Like the Vichy French who collaborated with the Nazi occupation
Posted by: Fenrisulven at August 26, 2023 12:58 PM (+LcMo)

I wonder how many people, "educated" in modern schools, will even begin to get that reference?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2023 01:01 PM (KCAh3)

He DID spell it out at least.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 01:26 PM (zZu0s)

329 My great grandma and grandma both lived to 99, Mom is 86 and doing fine, she will outlive me.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2023 01:26 PM (tRWwW)

330 Shooting a dog is a civil matter not a criminal charge. It's a weird business between a property dispute and an acceptance of Dogs Gonna Dog. I mean, with anything even an airsoft. Common Law accepts we are gonna have dogs and they will act like dogs. So you can't just cap a nuisance dog. Neither can you cap a dog for barking. It's a weird civil area of law. Dog breed type also enters into play. You cannot shoot dead a dog for running at you and barking (unless you're a cop). That's typical dog behavior. It's a strange area.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 01:26 PM (43xH1)

331 {{{SMH }}}

Hope you and Ex-Ex have been hale, surrounded by grandchildren, and living the American dream in the shadows of Mordor.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 26, 2023 01:27 PM (u82oZ)

332 Garden thread is nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2023 01:27 PM (zZu0s)

333 Fair and free elections are a thing of the past. After the Republican Party worked with Democrats and their Leftist allies to steal the 2020 election, then proceeded to do nothing to stop it, fair and free elections were forever done.

Our two major parties are owned by sometimes competing but often similar corporations and billionaire financiers, who do what their masters command, all while trying to fool the actual voters. George Soros? Koch brothers, anyone? The Camber of Commerce and Zuckerberg? Communists China? Yep. ALL the aforementioned!

We are doomed to fall.
My only hope is to see all these D.C. elites get their due by firing squads, prior to the nation collaspsing. Fuck the Democrats. Fuck the Republicans. Fuck the government.
Let it burn.

2020: NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE!

Posted by: Tracy at August 26, 2023 01:28 PM (gvLCw)

334 We're surviving, Salty.

We thank the Lord for what we have.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2023 01:28 PM (h8jQF)

335 You cannot shoot dead a dog for running at you and barking (unless you're a cop). That's typical dog behavior. It's a strange area.

Another area of "what is the law" vs "what I will do". Lets say it's a pit bull, running at me barking ? That dog is screwed.

What does the law say ? At that moment, I don't care. I'll worry about that legal problem later. First problem is pit bull running at me. I'll solve that problem first.

Posted by: Its Been Something to See at August 26, 2023 01:29 PM (5TEj8)

336 278 The SCROTUM protects nothing.

My Venn Diagram proves otherwise. The circles are Scrotum, My Chin and protection. There is significant overlap.

Posted by: Kamala Hair Ass at August 26, 2023 01:29 PM (cCxiu)

337 330 Shooting a dog is a civil matter not a criminal charge. It's a weird business between a property dispute and an acceptance of Dogs Gonna Dog. I mean, with anything even an airsoft. Common Law accepts we are gonna have dogs and they will act like dogs. So you can't just cap a nuisance dog. Neither can you cap a dog for barking. It's a weird civil area of law. Dog breed type also enters into play. You cannot shoot dead a dog for running at you and barking (unless you're a cop). That's typical dog behavior. It's a strange area.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2023 01:26 PM (43xH1)

May depend on your municipality. In California there's Penal Code 597.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2023 01:30 PM (ynpvh)

338 May depend on your municipality. In California there's Penal Code 597.

OK. Who, if getting bit about the head, neck, and shoulders by a dog, with the ability to deploy said gun to stop said dog, worries about this kind of shit ?

Answer ? A lot of you. Because many, many of you will get eaten by a dog before you break a law. You'd rather die than go to jail.

That's just truth. That's something I've learned, in my time here, about lifelong Republicans. Hence Andrew Branca.

Posted by: Its Been Something to See at August 26, 2023 01:32 PM (5TEj8)

339 RHL was so far ahead of his time. Used to say, if the left can't win elections, they'll do away with them. RIP Rush

Posted by: Grateful at August 26, 2023 01:32 PM (2SjQc)

340
RIP Bob Barker

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2023 01:18 PM

another grim milestone for the biden administration

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 26, 2023 01:33 PM (ENBF0)

341 >>>Is this the wrong thread to complain about a—h—-s who walk their dogs to neighbors’ yards so the thing can poop ?

>I urinate all over the boundaries of my yard. Now the only critters who venture in are cats and deer. The cats bury their business and the deer just fuck and frolic.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 01:35 PM (KVGVf)

342
How much would it cost to unwoke our military? That would be money well spent.
Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at August 26, 2023 12:41 PM (MvF+J)

We don't have printing presses fast enough to create that much money.
Posted by: BurtTC
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In that regard, a cartoon from valorguardians:
https://tinyurl.com/2cy4ah86

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2023 01:37 PM (ALsFH)

343 I urinate all over the boundaries of my yard.

Ha. When Girl928 left her dog here with us for a time, that is the first thing the dog and I did, walk the couple of thousand feet of the perimeter and pissing. Anywhere I went, the dog did too.

After we hade completed the circuit, he never crossed the boundary that we had marked out.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2023 01:39 PM (aD39U)

344 In that regard, a cartoon from valorguardians:

heh

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 26, 2023 01:40 PM (Xrfse)

345 How much would it cost to unwoke our military? That would be money well spent.
Posted by: Peel gp A Jackfruit at August 26, 2023 12:41 PM (MvF+J)

Ever looked at old pics, back even to the Korea era, regarding the US military ?

All it would take, to unwoke this, would be a return to previous TO&E. Especially regarding rank. Our military is so top heavy now it's ridiculous. We have the same full Pentagon that supervised right around a hundred divisions. Now they supervise around ten, plus enough brigades for maybe another ten.

That's the problem. Then look at the rank in a giving brigade. Way too many officers. Way too few junior enlisted. Hence, the problem. Same problem as any company that lets HR run wild.

Posted by: Its Been Something to See at August 26, 2023 01:42 PM (5TEj8)

346 Ballot referenda is leading to Democrats getting elected. Youngkin doesn't win if there were a ballot referendum to get rid of CRT and VMPI.
California had Prop 13 and eliminating affirmative action.
Massachusetts eliminated rent control by referendum.

Posted by: MikeN at August 26, 2023 01:44 PM (XygMV)

347 313

Wow. Missed the century mark by about 4 months.

https://tinyurl.com/34m5humm

Posted by: Dr. Claw at August 26, 2023 01:46 PM (roH4R)

348 Damn homophobic horses!

https://tinyurl.com/ykn2dknv

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 01:56 PM (FVME7)

349 2020: NEVER FORGET, NEVER FORGIVE!
Posted by: Tracy

Preaching to the choir.

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/51BWpnNmBVY

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 01:59 PM (FVME7)

350 I remember being online after 9/11, and arguing that a few well-placed strikes could accomplish the task of convincing the terrorists to not bring their shit here.

But somewhere along the line, the R party, and their weapons manufacturing overlords, went all in on perpetual war. And called it "peacekeeping."

Whenever the government shows up and says they're there to keep the peace, things are about to get worse.
Posted by: BurtTC

The operation was doomed the moment they put State Dept (Dan Bremer sp?) in charge.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 26, 2023 02:07 PM (ga8qR)

351 Friend tryed to get me into golf. Told me how frustrating playing the game was. Told him that, as I was not a masochist, golf didn't sound like the game for me.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Similar to finding fun in frustation is videogame Bright Lights of Svetlova. It is intended to reveal hopelessness of life in the USSR in the 1980s. Set almost entirely in the tiny apartment of a Soviet worker bee, it's a puzzle game in which you attempt such mundane tasks as taking out the trash and washing the dishes. It's gotten pretty good reviews and is cheap and short. It does a good job of revealing the bleakness of the worker's paradise.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2023 02:22 PM (FVME7)

352 186 One of the big prog pushes that most people are not aware of (yet) is to hand large chunks of government authority to unelected "expert" panels, taking decision-making for those topics out of the hands of the legislature or executive. The panels would …

Article the other day: EPA (or some acronym) voted to change regulations on another appliance.

I didn’t vote on it we didn’t vote on it THEY voted on it.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 26, 2023 02:44 PM (lCWOD)

353 Only dabbled in golf in high school gym class, always thought later in life I has no bad golf habits so should have had lessons and would be better off than many who played for year a badly

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 03:12 PM (MOY79)

354 And bullshit is bad for journalism

Posted by: Bang-a-gong at August 26, 2023 03:13 PM (SRiFu)

355 I'm totally freaked out that they're going to force another vaccine on us. I think they're going to claim the new vaccines are sufficiently different that the laws that were passed blocking the government from forcing them (and the SCOTUS ruling) don't apply.

Posted by: InZona at August 26, 2023 03:17 PM (bfyic)

356 Escaped all vaccines fake and otherwise for years liking my chances again

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 03:22 PM (MOY79)

357 Most of the defendants listed in the indictment have already handed themselves in to officials at the Fulton County Jail and have been released on bond, except for Harrison Floyd, a former U.S. Marine and former head of Black Voices for Trump, who has ~~reportedly~~ been held in custody without bail.

Remember Harrison Floyd.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 26, 2023 03:23 PM (NleZG)

358 One of the big prog pushes that most people are not aware of (yet) is to hand large chunks of government authority to unelected "expert" panels, taking decision-making for those topics out of the hands of the legislature or executive. The panels would …
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See: California

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2023 03:30 PM (ALsFH)

359 PET NOOD IS UP

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2023 03:32 PM (MOY79)

360 BTW, the sh*t is about to hit the fan - the utterly German establishment Der Spiegel published a lengthy article making a compelling case that the Nordstream pipelines were blown up by Ukrainian special forces.

Bombing the Nordstream pipelines was an act of war against Germany, of course.

https://archive.ph/q2h7F
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2023 11:59 AM (2tUFv)

Sorry, don't buy it. There was a US Fleet group operating in the area on 'exercises' just at the time of the planting and blowing up that would make it very dangerous for any other players. Ukr SF might be compatible with the leaks from various US players like Newland about how the pipes would fail, but not the preknowledge Biden had. Also, the British PM at the time sent a message to Blinken that it had gone off before the news was public.

Any other group besides one sanctioned and organized by the US ran the risk of a real investigation and payback. Ukraine's terrorism is pretty much land based and directed at Russia, including pipelines overland.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 26, 2023 04:26 PM (eoQWY)

361 But somewhere along the line, the R party, and their weapons manufacturing overlords, went all in on perpetual war. And called it "peacekeeping."

Whenever the government shows up and says they're there to keep the peace, things are about to get worse.
Posted by: BurtTC

Perpetual war might have worked, but we didn't do that. The army isn't good at and has no doctrine for occupation and peacekeeping so its the worst thing to try and make it do once you can't just kill everyone around.

Rome in its heyday was pretty good at peacekeeping and occupation, converting the upperclass to its values and coopting them and when that didn't work leveraging its efforts through client kings and the like for centuries.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 26, 2023 04:31 PM (eoQWY)

362 That's it. Shit can all the ideology. All the weepy Peggy Noonan shit about a bygone era. Also all the good old days where the NeoCons would stand shoulder to shoulder with you to tax you to whip the Soviets. That's all gone.
Posted by: Its Been Something to See at August 26, 2023 01:12 PM (5TEj

Neocons didn't exist back then, just Cons. The Neo came when the end of the Soviet Union when rather than living in the real world where we could change our reflexes and expenses to reflect the actual situation they decided it was a lot easier to keep doing the exact same stuff and foment wars instead.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 26, 2023 04:39 PM (eoQWY)

363 >>>Besides, CA has had term limits since 1990. You think that improved governance? No. It made lazy people more lazy and now you see what has happened there.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

>California is a special case. Perhaps California should work vote harder.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2023 12:17 PM (KVGVf)

CA GOPe surrendered to the enemy a decade ago by the usual means and the new Jungle Primary means that only in rare cases do GOP candidates get on the ballot for statewide offices.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 26, 2023 04:44 PM (eoQWY)

364 It appears that Vivek is/was a Soros Fellow

Posted by: Neo at August 26, 2023 05:05 PM (RovqD)

365 "Nixon is now reduced in the popular culture, to two things: Watergate and red scare stuff."

Name another (real) President mentioned by name in any Star Trek episode/movie.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 26, 2023 07:12 PM (KAi1n)

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