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Are those your personal pictures?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:02 AM (LvTSG) 2
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:02 AM (LvTSG)
Yes. I took them last June. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:02 AM (ZCCyW) 3
Well said CBD.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2023 11:03 AM (e4fEA) 4
I give the French top marks for preserving the Normandy landing beaches. You can see the Nazi gun emplacements, wreckage of the Mulberrys, and the craters left by shelling. It's a spectacular beach, and they could have turned it into Ocean City, but didn't.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:03 AM (eOEVl) 5
2 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:02 AM (LvTSG)
Yes. I took them last June. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:02 AM (ZCCyW) ======== Neat! Nice writeup, by the way. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:03 AM (LvTSG) 6
Thanks much for this, CBD.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 06, 2023 11:04 AM (Xrfse) 7
Always remember.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 06, 2023 11:04 AM (Q4IgG) 8
I'd like to see the "adrenalin junkies" face something similar to when the landing craft ramp dropped.
Posted by: BignJames at June 06, 2023 11:05 AM (AwYPR) 9
it is our duty to fight back. Not just defend...but take the fight to them, like the Rangers at Pointe du Hoc!
I read AOSHQ today, so I guess that makes me pretty much the same as the Rangers, right? Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:05 AM (eOEVl) 10
Excellent, CBD. Thank you.
Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Jade, too. at June 06, 2023 11:05 AM (GshMh) 11
Someone with more time than I should link Reagan's "Boys of Point du Hoc" to this thread.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 06, 2023 11:05 AM (AW0uW) 12
It's a spectacular beach, and they could have turned it into Ocean City, but didn't.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:03 AM (eOEVl) And it is respected by the locals. They remember, even if their city cousins in Paris don't. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:06 AM (ZCCyW) 13
We didn't save Europe from the Germans with the success of D-Day, we saved them from the Russians.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 06, 2023 11:06 AM (a3Q+t) 14
"So the Americans landed and scaled the cliffs, and we unloaded on them with everything we had just as they came over the top!"
"Wow! And then what happened?" ".... we got our asses kicked." Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 06, 2023 11:07 AM (9UlRk) 15
And our Communists are throwing it all away
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2023 11:08 AM (KrLBh) 16
Hear! Hear!
Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 06, 2023 11:08 AM (sJSOG) 17
I bet none of those Rangers were trans.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 06, 2023 11:08 AM (to8pj) 18
The first really impressive man I met as a kid when I was old enough to understand weight training was a truck driver from Portland. Big time into fitness. He was a Ranger at Normandy. He said he made it about a third of the way up before getting shot in the leg.
Hell of a guy. Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2023 11:08 AM (e4fEA) 19
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 06, 2023 11:05 AM (AW0uW)
I just added my personal photo of the monument with his speech... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:08 AM (ZCCyW) 20
I was lucky enough to visit that area. Unreal what those soldiers did.
The cemetery is definitely hallowed ground. The beaches are a ridiculously open zone. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 06, 2023 11:08 AM (ufFY8) 21
As a country we had God on our side back then and I still believe it was a righteous cause.
Not so sure about now. Posted by: ... at June 06, 2023 11:09 AM (Mmdod) 22
Thanks CBD !
Posted by: JT at June 06, 2023 11:09 AM (T4tVD) 23
Excellent post and pictures. My thanks joins the others CBD.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 06, 2023 11:09 AM (HrY9V) 24
I jumped in in 1984 for the 40th. It was neat because the vets were still young enough to get around, and they had very specific stories about very specific places with their comrades.
Went back in 2019 for the 75th with my wife. Her takeaway was that unless you are there, you cannot imagine the scale of the operation. Some have said that it was the most complex undertaking ever accomplished by human beings. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 06, 2023 11:09 AM (7B5FA) 25
I was in Europe with Mother Green , 76-79. I regret not taking the opportunity to visit historic battlefields such as Normandy, the Ardennes, Remagen, etc.
Huge oversight, in retrospect. Posted by: DB - at June 06, 2023 11:09 AM (geLO8) 26
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"The annual rewatch of Reagan’s Boys of Pointe du Hoc speech on D Day never disappoints." Posted by: m at June 06, 2023 11:10 AM (LodBx) 27
"They also took had about 135 casualties out of the 225 men who landed."
I read 135 died ... (since casualty afaik, can mean wounded?) ... Heroic men ... "a republic if you can keep it". Always just one (or two) generations from losing it. But the commie evil was internally encroaching on the US even as we fought the Nazis. Posted by: illiniwek at June 06, 2023 11:10 AM (Cus5s) 28
I truly hope that Biden doesn't say anything too inane and insulting today but pretty sure he will. That is where we are.
Posted by: Cheri at June 06, 2023 11:10 AM (oiNtH) Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 11:10 AM (us2H3) 30
I can’t imagine being one of those soldiers preparing to go ashore. Just cannot imagine what they must have been feeling, knowing that most of them were going to die that day.
God bless them. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 06, 2023 11:10 AM (/r29W) 31
28 I truly hope that Biden doesn't say anything too inane and insulting today but pretty sure he will. That is where we are.
Posted by: Cheri at June 06, 2023 11:10 AM (oiNtH) His great great grandfather died there fighting the Japanese, don't you know. Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 06, 2023 11:11 AM (9UlRk) Posted by: m at June 06, 2023 11:11 AM (LodBx) 33
I bet none of those Rangers were trans.
There is a fun animated video I've seen where some antifa types pull some of the soldiers from D-Day forward to nowish They tell the soldiers the NAZIs have taken over America and they need their help getting rid of them. The soldiers ask for details and the Antifa types complain there are people opposed to the government telling them how to live, that want to follow their religion in peace, and believe in the Constitution. And...the soldiers point out the antifa types sound like the NAZIs... Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:11 AM (lc5cP) 34
And it is respected by the locals. They remember, even if their city cousins in Paris don't. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:06 AM (ZCCyW)
Kids in Normandy have to do a project in 6th grade where they tell the history of one unit and they actually take a field trip to the place where that unit fought to tell the story to their class. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 06, 2023 11:11 AM (7B5FA) 35
Biden will say he was there and personally killed 300 machine gunners with his bare hands.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 06, 2023 11:12 AM (72qIu) 36
As a country we had God on our side back then and I still believe it was a righteous cause.
Not so sure about now. You've got someone better on your side now! Posted by: The guy downstairs at June 06, 2023 11:12 AM (lc5cP) 37
30 I can’t imagine being one of those soldiers preparing to go ashore. Just cannot imagine what they must have been feeling, knowing that most of them were going to die that day.
God bless them. ----------------- No soldier thinks he will be the one killed. You just can't think that way. Alternatively, assume you are dead and attack. If your not dead after the shooting then life is good. Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:12 AM (0chEi) 38
Nice post, CBD. Succinct and on point!
Posted by: Muldoon at June 06, 2023 11:13 AM (991eG) 39
I know we , including myself, have criticized what our military has become today( mostly leadership) but I believe we still have that same ' fighting spirit' and can do American attitude , independent thinking in a good percentage of our troops.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 11:13 AM (MNhXM) 40
Thanks CBD. I needed that.
Posted by: 7man at June 06, 2023 11:13 AM (qwO6y) 41
Some have said that it was the most complex undertaking ever accomplished by human beings.
Some argue that the Okinawa landing was bigger than D-Day, at least by some metrics, and because they had to travel much longer distances, perhaps more complex. IDK. I do know that Operation Downfall, the invasion of Japan, would have dwarfed D-Day. I doubt very much that any of the potential participants are sad it didn't happen. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:13 AM (eOEVl) 42
Can anyone imagine what the carnage would have been like if we’d tried to invade Japan?
Yet, the atom bomb was evil and needs to be apologized for constantly. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 06, 2023 11:13 AM (/r29W) Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:14 AM (zZu0s) 44
I just added my personal photo of the monument with his speech...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:08 AM (ZCCyW) **hat tip** Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 06, 2023 11:14 AM (AW0uW) 45
No soldier thinks he will be the one killed. You just can't think that way. Alternatively, assume you are dead and attack. If your not dead after the shooting then life is good. Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:12 AM (0chEi)
It's generally the latter. Under fire you tend to act as if you're already dead. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 06, 2023 11:14 AM (7B5FA) 46
American journalists are asking Ukrainian soldiers to cover up their Nazi insignia because it might undermine the war against Putin
https://tinyurl.com/2mmr33bp - Not that they're Baghdad Bobing the news or anything. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 11:14 AM (FVME7) 47
RLTW!!!
Posted by: Greyman27 at June 06, 2023 11:14 AM (RKLPC) 48
I truly hope that Biden doesn't say anything too inane and insulting today but pretty sure he will. That is where we are.
Posted by: Cheri at June 06, 2023 11:10 AM (oiNtH) --------- It'll fall flat ... Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 06, 2023 11:14 AM (sJSOG) 49
Far from the leftist cities in Western countries are many people who remember these men and millions of others who fought for their freedom against titanic evil. They honor their memory, they tell their children and grandchildren about their sacrifices, and they live lives that respect those sacrifices.
++++ Hear, hear. And here, too - outside of those estates and academies you mentioned. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:15 AM (DU+/6) 50
I don't think anyone can be certain of their mettle until they're tested, and those guys were sorely tested. EVERY one of them came through.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at June 06, 2023 11:15 AM (YRsIm) 51
I was in Europe with Mother Green , 76-79. I regret not taking the opportunity to visit historic battlefields such as Normandy, the Ardennes, Remagen, etc.
Huge oversight, in retrospect. Posted by: DB - at June 06, 2023 11:09 AM (geLO *** I was there the same time, down near Nurnberg. Didn't make it to Normandy either, but did see Remagen, some of the Ardennes (damn!) and some of Italy. I'm kicking myself for not going to Normandy, and also Verdun. Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2023 11:15 AM (e4fEA) 52
American journalists are asking Ukrainian soldiers to cover up their Nazi insignia because it might undermine the war against Putin
Give it a rest. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:15 AM (eOEVl) 53
"Behind me is a memorial that symbolizes the Ranger daggers that were thrust into the top of these cliffs. And before me are the men who put them there."
Posted by: m at June 06, 2023 11:16 AM (LodBx) 54
So I guess Joe will tell Us his Son Beau died on Normandy beach
Posted by: It's me donna at June 06, 2023 11:16 AM (bs+z0) 55
Went there on my honeymoon with my German wife. (My dad served in the Pacific.)
Met a German veteran who lost a leg there, when we toured the American cemetery. Extraordinarily moving. All Americans should go there if they have the chance. Posted by: RS at June 06, 2023 11:17 AM (W93yv) 56
"Biden will say he was there and personally killed 300 machine gunners with his bare hands.
Posted by: gourmand du jour " And we will be reminded of Beau's sacrifice. Posted by: fd at June 06, 2023 11:17 AM (iayUP) 57
45 No soldier thinks he will be the one killed. You just can't think that way. Alternatively, assume you are dead and attack. If your not dead after the shooting then life is good. Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:12 AM (0chEi)
It's generally the latter. Under fire you tend to act as if you're already dead. ---------------- In a close ambush you are taught to step into the fire. Dropping and organizing a plan is not an option. Once you've run that through your head you know there is but one option - attack and see what happens. Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:17 AM (0chEi) 58
So I guess Joe will tell Us his Son Beau died on Normandy beach
Don't be silly. He was hanged after leading the plot to kill Hitler. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:17 AM (eOEVl) 59
The feds are hunting for a "serial bear harasser" who has repeatedly charged bears at Yellowstone
https://tinyurl.com/2cf4nc5x - Seems like this'd be a problem that'd take care of itself. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 11:17 AM (FVME7) 60
They died fighting Fascism. They must be turning in their graves with what's happened here since then.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:17 AM (ynpvh) 61
59 The feds are hunting for a "serial bear harasser" who has repeatedly charged bears at Yellowstone
https://tinyurl.com/2cf4nc5x - Seems like this'd be a problem that'd take care of itself. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 11:17 AM (FVME7) How much is he charging them? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:18 AM (ynpvh) 62
Ronald Reagan. Normandy. 1984.
How can it be so many years? Even without watching the clip, I can still hear his voice and his awe. Posted by: grammie winger at June 06, 2023 11:18 AM (45fpk) 63
the largest faction among the resistance were the communists, they almost took over france after the war, if not for the marshall plan,
Posted by: no 6 at June 06, 2023 11:18 AM (PXvVL) 64
they staged D-Day during Pride Month
bastards Posted by: REDACTED at June 06, 2023 11:10 AM (us2H3) ------- It wasn't long ago when we honored D-Day in memory of the brave and stunning American "journalists" who make up the MDM-MSM. Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 06, 2023 11:18 AM (sJSOG) 65
I do know that Operation Downfall, the invasion of Japan, would have dwarfed D-Day. I doubt very much that any of the potential participants are sad it didn't happen.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:13 AM (eOEVl) ++++ Downfall was going to be D-Day amped up on steroids and crystal meth. The Pacific forces had loads of amphibious experience and the European theater planners understood how to deal with the titanic scale needed and Okinawa served as a valuable lesson. Olympic (to take Kyushu) would almost certainly have been successful, but the blood price would have been appalling. The lives saved by *not* having to execute that operation cannot be reliably estimated. Millions, probably. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:18 AM (DU+/6) 66
Ronald Reagan. Normandy. 1984.
How can it be so many years? Even without watching the clip, I can still hear his voice and his awe. Almost exactly half the time between the event and now. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:18 AM (eOEVl) 67
60 They died fighting Fascism. They must be turning in their graves with what's happened here since then.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:17 AM (ynpvh) They would never recognize the America we have become... heck... I don't even recognize it Posted by: It's me donna at June 06, 2023 11:18 AM (bs+z0) Posted by: Electric Bear Charger at June 06, 2023 11:19 AM (iayUP) 69
Thank You, CBD.
Posted by: nurse ratched at June 06, 2023 11:20 AM (pEsAa) 70
Whatever Biden can do to denigrate the event he will do. Maybe shit himself and let run down his leg then point to the mess.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 06, 2023 11:20 AM (to8pj) 71
65 I do know that Operation Downfall, the invasion of Japan, would have dwarfed D-Day. I doubt very much that any of the potential participants are sad it didn't happen.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:13 AM (eOEVl) ++++ Downfall was going to be D-Day amped up on steroids and crystal meth. The Pacific forces had loads of amphibious experience and the European theater planners understood how to deal with the titanic scale needed and Okinawa served as a valuable lesson. Olympic (to take Kyushu) would almost certainly have been successful, but the blood price would have been appalling. The lives saved by *not* having to execute that operation cannot be reliably estimated. Millions, probably. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:18 AM (DU+/6) My Dad was sure he'd die in the fight for Japan, as he waited for his troop carrier to take him from the Philippines to Japan. It was great news when he heard the war was over. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:20 AM (ynpvh) 72
CBD seems to have left out the fact that the right wing of both our political parties supported Nazi Germany before Pearl Harbor.
The right wing of the party were the isolationists. Nice try, though. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:20 AM (eOEVl) 73
Well done CBD.
Sickens me how the soft heads throw around the terms: Nazi and fascist nowadays. All humanity should remember and be thankful. Posted by: scampydog at June 06, 2023 11:20 AM (2bFN5) 74
One of the wonderful gentlemen in the first church which I served parachuted into France the night before D Day. He was a fine man, with a strong singing voice and her sang in our choir.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 11:20 AM (Keyt1) Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:21 AM (eOEVl) 76
Posted by: Paul at June 06, 2023 11:19 AM (pFZgT)
======== Man, that leftist intelligentsia in the US that praised Hitler as "scientific governance" really was right wing, wasn't it? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:21 AM (LvTSG) 77
Paul, you’re a turd. Either show some respect or go away.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 06, 2023 11:21 AM (/r29W) 78
Slightly off topic but does have to do with defending America. My email this morning from Second Amendment Foundation, Alan Gottlieb Director, states their website has been almost crashed by citizens requesting membership. This is after the SAF lawsuit regarding Pistol Braces. By the way, NRA did not join this lawsuit. SAF has been in the fight to defend the Second Amendment for a long time. They put their money where their mouth is. I am upgrading to Life Member, at $150. I suggest you do the same.
Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2023 11:21 AM (Uv0D2) 79
Olympic (to take Kyushu) would almost certainly have been successful, but the blood price would have been appalling. The lives saved by *not* having to execute that operation cannot be reliably estimated. Millions, probably. As another aspect of all this - the POINT of war is to inflict enough pain on your enemy to force them to agree to your terms at the lowest cost possible in your own people's lives and treasure. While the nukes saved Japanese lives, the point that made using them morally correct is they saved American (and allied) lives. Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:21 AM (lc5cP) 80
68 "How much is he charging them?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)" $20. Same as in town. Posted by: Electric Bear Charger at June 06, 2023 11:19 AM (iayUP) LOL. One of those times that old joke works well. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:21 AM (ynpvh) 81
Willowed from earlier today:
Had an uncle in the 82nd. I'm not sure if he jumped on D-Day or in the days following, but he fought in France and Belgium. Purple Heart, Bronze Star. The only war story I can remember him telling, was how effective the .50 caliber machine gun was in close infantry action. Among his war souvenirs were a German soldier's combat knife, and a pair of tiny wooden shoes. Posted by: DB - at June 06, 2023 11:21 AM (geLO8) 82
I do know that Operation Downfall, the invasion of Japan, would have dwarfed D-Day. I doubt very much that any of the potential participants are sad it didn't happen.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:13 AM (eOEVl) When I was in college I knew a professor that back in 1945 was in the process of training for that invasion when the atomic bombs were dropped. He was eternally thankful that we did it and made no bones about it. Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 06, 2023 11:22 AM (bV7Xy) 83
My Dad was sure he'd die in the fight for Japan, as he waited for his troop carrier to take him from the Philippines to Japan. It was great news when he heard the war was over.
My uncle was literally on a Liberty troop ship on the way to Japan, when the surrender came through. They turned the ship around mid-ocean. Can you imagine the relief? Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:22 AM (eOEVl) 84
"He" sang, Not her. Jim would have very strongly disapproved of sex change operations.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 11:22 AM (Keyt1) 85
One of the wonderful gentlemen in the first church which I served parachuted into France the night before D Day. He was a fine man, with a strong singing voice and her sang in our choir.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 11:20 AM (Keyt1) ++++ Man. After going through being a forward behind-the-lines operator in the biggest strategic invasion in history, I imagine getting back home and going to church must have been as surreal as it was good. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:23 AM (DU+/6) 86
76 Posted by: Paul at June 06, 2023 11:19 AM (pFZgT)
======== Man, that leftist intelligentsia in the US that praised Hitler as "scientific governance" really was right wing, wasn't it? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:21 AM (LvTSG) Yes, it was amazing how the Dems loved them some Fascism back in the 30's. The efficiency of it. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:23 AM (ynpvh) 87
"My Dad was sure he'd die in the fight for Japan, as he waited for his troop carrier to take him from the Philippines to Japan. It was great news when he heard the war was over."
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) -------- As was mine. After a year as a Navy aviator in combat, he had a training billet at Jacksonville NAS, The happiest day of his life was when the A-bombs ended the war. Posted by: RS at June 06, 2023 11:23 AM (W93yv) 88
the largest faction among the resistance were the communists, they almost took over france after the war, if not for the marshall plan,
Posted by: no 6 at June 06, 2023 11:18 AM (PXvVL) --------- Those f*cking commies also persecuted and actually prosecuted members of the French Resistance. * spits * Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 06, 2023 11:23 AM (sJSOG) 89
The right wing of the party were the isolationists. Nice try, though.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:20 AM (eOEVl) To them everything is political. You will be shot for what you did not do as much as anything. What you said. What you thought. What they imagine you thought. They are evil. It is time to stop equivocating about them. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:23 AM (zZu0s) 90
I do know that Operation Downfall, the invasion of Japan, would have dwarfed D-Day. I doubt very much that any of the potential participants are sad it didn't happen.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:13 AM They were shipping infantry units back from Europe after V-E Day to the States to prep them for combat duty in the Pacific. Almost everyone in the Army was anticipating that the war would last until the end of 1946. Not many people were in the know on the Atomic bombs and even some that were did not think they would force Japan to surrender without a full scale invasion of the Home islands. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 11:24 AM (ncXxy) 91
It struck me this Memorial Day, and this thread reminded me: We couldn't take Normandy today, and if by some miracle, we did, the American people would demand we surrender the next day.
There is no way on God's green Earth the American populace would tolerate 10,000 Allied dead in one afternoon. Not for any objective in the world. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 06, 2023 11:24 AM (/nCD+) 92
Those f*cking commies also persecuted and actually prosecuted members of the French Resistance. * spits *
---------- Should have been clearer: persecuted and actually prosecuted non-commie members of the French Resistance. Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 06, 2023 11:25 AM (sJSOG) 93
Wasn't there an imbecilic reporter who compared Antifa to the soldiers of D-Day?
Posted by: NL at June 06, 2023 11:25 AM (eGTCV) 94
CBD seems to have left out the fact that the right wing of both our political parties supported Nazi Germany before Pearl Harbor.
Before Barbarossa, the "far right" in America opposed intervention at all, the "far left" openly supported the Germans. It wasn't uncommon for the left to claim Churchill was motivated by his hatred of Germany and was the cause of the war. After Barbarossa the "far left" obviously switched its position on Germany... In the 1940 election, amusingly, Dewey was more interventionist then FDR, at least publicly. FDR said in one noted speech he wouldn't send American boys to die in another European war. Of course he was "illegally" attacking German subs at the same time. Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:25 AM (lc5cP) 95
"American journalists are asking Ukrainian soldiers to cover up their Nazi insignia because it might undermine the war against Putin"
I wonder what their beliefs really are ... like, do they want to exterminate the Jews (or "infidels"), or just what part of Nazi "dogma" do they believe? Are they Christian, or some other creed? Are they genocidal, white supremacist, or what? Seems strange. Posted by: illiniwek at June 06, 2023 11:25 AM (Cus5s) 96
81 Willowed from earlier today:
Had an uncle in the 82nd. I'm not sure if he jumped on D-Day or in the days following, but he fought in France and Belgium. Purple Heart, Bronze Star. The only war story I can remember him telling, was how effective the .50 caliber machine gun was in close infantry action. Among his war souvenirs were a German soldier's combat knife, and a pair of tiny wooden shoes. Posted by: DB - at June 06, 2023 11:21 AM (geLO I tell you, those Germans have tiny feet. Can't wear their damn tiny shoes. Posted by: John McClane at June 06, 2023 11:25 AM (ynpvh) 97
Ah, let me guess. Someone is pretending Nazis are on the right side instead of acknowledging that the right side goes freedom, more freedom, anarchy?
Nazis, commies, big government / pro government any and everything is ALWAYS only on the left. Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:25 AM (SfD1B) 98
Give it a rest.
Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:15 AM (eOEVl) That's a pretty reliable source, Archie. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 06, 2023 11:26 AM (r+5Gi) 99
He was eternally thankful that we did it and made no bones about it.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 06, 2023 11:22 AM (bV7Xy) The idea that we should not have used atomic weapons on Japan is simply insane. It was the only moral decision, because it saved the lives of millions of Japanese and many thousands of American servicemen. Anyone who suggests it is either profoundly ignorant of the reality, or an enemy of America and the West. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:26 AM (ZCCyW) 100
I love how the left equates small government libertarianism with big government statism that is Nazism.
I had an old hippie tell me that I was a fascist because I wanted the government to only take care of roads and national defense. It's almost like there was a systemic effort to obfuscate what fascism actually means. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:26 AM (LvTSG) 101
Japan would have been a slaughterhouse. Rocky, mountainous islands?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:26 AM (zZu0s) 102
93 Wasn't there an imbecilic reporter who compared Antifa to the soldiers of D-Day?
Posted by: NL at June 06, 2023 11:25 AM (eGTCV) ========= "an"? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:26 AM (LvTSG) 103
Often overshadowed by the remarkable accomplishments at Normandy on 6/6/44 was the liberation of Rome with initial Allied troops entering on 6/4 and the capital secured on 6/5. My dad was there and had a unique experience:
June 5, 1944 Rome is ours. We have it surrounded and occupied. The natives are delirious with joy. What with flag waving and flower throwing and shouting and ringing it is a great show. Our battery moved from Velletri to the fair grounds SW of Rome. As soon as we closed in the new area ‘Ace’ [Taylor] took me for a flight over Rome. The main streets were thronged with people. The entrance to Vatican City was so crowded with people that we couldn’t see the ground. [Margin note: This was the Pope’s address welcoming the Allies. A lucky flight for us because flying over the Vatican is strictly forbidden. However this was a special occasion and passed uncensured. ] Posted by: Muldoon at June 06, 2023 11:26 AM (991eG) 104
Wasn't there an imbecilic reporter who compared Antifa to the soldiers of D-Day?
Posted by: NL at June 06, 2023 11:25 AM (eGTCV) ---- Your gonna have to narrow that down a bit. "Imbecilic reporter" is somewhat redundant these days. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 06, 2023 11:27 AM (YIVH2) 105
99 The idea that we should not have used atomic weapons on Japan is simply insane. It was the only moral decision, because it saved the lives of millions of Japanese and many thousands of American servicemen.
Anyone who suggests it is either profoundly ignorant of the reality, or an enemy of America and the West. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:26 AM (ZCCyW) ======== It cut Russia off from claiming part of Japan. Of course it was the wrong choice! Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:27 AM (LvTSG) 106
My favorite factoid about D-Day is that the German high command was afraid to wake Hitler up and tell him about it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 06, 2023 11:27 AM (/r29W) 107
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:23 AM (DU+/6)
My impression of many of the men whom I knew from the churches who were involved in WWII didn't really want to talk about it much. Maybe they talked to their families or fellow military men, or had diaries as with Muldoon's father, but even my dad didn't want to talk about and he had at least one medal which he didn't talk about when I was little. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 11:27 AM (Keyt1) 108
Pappy Eromero went ashore with 29th Inf Div early. Purple Heart and Bronze Star, one of three non-casualties in his landing craft the first 10 minutes. He was 20.
Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (Uv0D2) 109
83 My Dad was sure he'd die in the fight for Japan, as he waited for his troop carrier to take him from the Philippines to Japan. It was great news when he heard the war was over.
My uncle was literally on a Liberty troop ship on the way to Japan, when the surrender came through. They turned the ship around mid-ocean. Can you imagine the relief? Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:22 AM (eOEVl) My Dad was mid trip. Found out when he got there. Was part of the Occupation forces there afterwards. Posted by: John McClane at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (ynpvh) 110
I had an old hippie tell me that I was a fascist because I wanted the government to only take care of roads and national defense.
-- It's easy, really. And mentioned specifically in the 10th Amendment that Our Betters forget about or ignore. Interstates = federal responsibility State roads = state responsibility City roads = City County = county My driveway = my responsibility. Apply as needed to any and every other situation. Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (SfD1B) 111
34 And it is respected by the locals. They remember, even if their city cousins in Paris don't. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:06 AM (ZCCyW)
Kids in Normandy have to do a project in 6th grade where they tell the history of one unit and they actually take a field trip to the place where that unit fought to tell the story to their class. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 06, 2023 11:11 AM (7B5FA) Very cool. Posted by: m at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (LodBx) 112
Did Paul's mommy drop him on his head?
Posted by: NL at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (eGTCV) 113
106 My favorite factoid about D-Day is that the German high command was afraid to wake Hitler up and tell him about it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 06, 2023 11:27 AM (/r29W) ======== Were they afraid because of his temper? Or were they afraid that he'd give terrible orders? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (LvTSG) 114
Thank you for both the pictures and the write-up CBD.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (UL8Eh) 115
While the nukes saved Japanese lives, the point that made using them morally correct is they saved American (and allied) lives.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:21 AM (lc5cP) ++++ Absolutely. It is one of the reasons I get actually angry about the armchair quarterbacking about the Bomb. There are a number of sound arguments about it - all involving stuff that was not really understood until after the War - like, "Japan was on the brink anyway, and starving under the pressure of our wolfpacks eviscerating her merchant marine." That's a big one, and it's probably legitimate. But it disregards that we didn't how bad things had gotten in Japan at that point and it also disregards American lives. Each *day* that the Pacific War dragged on was costing American lives. Even without a major offensive, men die in war. Scores of American men dying daily. Why on earth should we have waited to starve out Japan? The blood price was being paid daily. Why allow those men - *our* men - to die while waiting out a recalcitrant enemy? Not to mention the Soviet threat from the north. They actually put boots on the ground on Hokkaido, ready to plunder and divide the country. Feh. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (DU+/6) 116
Off Nakatomi Plaza sock.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (ynpvh) 117
We didn't save Europe from the Germans with the success of D-Day, we saved them from the Russians.
Posted by: Duncanthrax We might have saved them from the russians but we didn't save them from the communists. Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (UL8Eh) 118
"The decision by some Ukrainian soldiers to wear patches with Nazi icons threatens to reinforce Russian propaganda used to justify the invasion."
-- That is such an amazing sentence. Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (SfD1B) 119
I wonder what their beliefs really are ... like, do they want to exterminate the Jews (or "infidels"), or just what part of Nazi "dogma" do they believe? Are they Christian, or some other creed? Are they genocidal, white supremacist, or what? Seems strange.
During WWII the faction of Ukrainians that sided with the Germans wanted revenge on the Soviet Union for the Holomdor. They also generally hated Jews. The Germans just saw them as more Slavs to be dominated/killed. So it was an odd political alignment. AFAIK the current Uke NAZIs want to exterminate the ethnic Russians in Ukraine and they still hate Jews. Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:29 AM (lc5cP) 120
112 Did Paul's mommy drop him on his head?
Posted by: NL at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (eGTCV) The STDs she gave him didn't help. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:29 AM (ynpvh) 121
My Dad was sure he'd die in the fight for Japan, as he waited for his troop carrier to take him from the Philippines to Japan. It was great news when he heard the war was over.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:20 AM (ynpvh) My late FiL was in the same, er, boat. What division was your father in? Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 06, 2023 11:29 AM (l7Kbv) 122
Anyone who suggests it is either profoundly ignorant of the reality, or an enemy of America and the West.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:26 AM Embrace the healing power of "and" here. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:29 AM (Wnv9h) 123
As I observed elsewhere: Just as Midway told the Japanese they no longer had the seas, this battle told Germany and Italy that they no longer had the land.
Posted by: NR Pax at June 06, 2023 11:29 AM (pEM7J) 124
Nice juxtaposition today between Robert Hanssen and the Rangers.
According to Dante, the lowest, worst level of hell is occupied by traitors. Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:29 AM (vg8N1) 125
"We didn't save Europe from the Germans with the success of D-Day, we saved them from the Russians."
This truth brought to you by Jesse Jones. Congress granted fiduciary control to Jones to manage the war. Stalin wanted to erase Germany for revenge, Churchill knew the natural resources in Germany were crucial to rebuilding Europe and FDR was checking out. Jones sided with Churchill. Posted by: DanMan at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM (DB6tu) 126
The idea that we should not have used atomic weapons on Japan is simply insane. It was the only moral decision, because it saved the lives of millions of Japanese and many thousands of American servicemen.
Anyone who suggests it is either profoundly ignorant of the reality, or an enemy of America and the West. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:26 AM (ZCCyW) I visited Navy son and DIL in Japan a couple of years ago and traveling around the country my only thought was "good gravy - why were actually thinking of invading this!" The land seems to be all sharp mountains, deep valleys, million hiding places every square mile, and the population was willing to fight to the death. It would have been horrific on both sides. Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM (bV7Xy) 127
Were they afraid because of his temper? Or were they afraid that he'd give terrible orders?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (LvTSG) --- If the video clip from "Downfall" that serves as the basis for endless Hitler memes is to be believed, he reacted badly when receiving bad news. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM (YIVH2) 128
Pride month and the groomers are melting down
Human Rights Campaign declares a national state of emergency for LGBTQ+ people “LGBTQ+ Americans are living in a state of emergency. The multiplying threats facing millions in our community are not just perceived – they are real, tangible and dangerous,” the group’s president, Kelley Robinson, said. “In many cases they are resulting in violence against LGBTQ+ people, forcing families to uproot their lives and flee their homes in search of safer states, and triggering a tidal wave of increased homophobia and transphobia that puts the safety of each and every one of us at risk.” Posted by: Jay in PA at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM (i7Q7S) 129
It struck me this Memorial Day, and this thread reminded me: We couldn't take Normandy today, and if by some miracle, we did, the American people would demand we surrender the next day.
-------- We can't even take NYC or San Francisco now. Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM (sJSOG) 130
The problem with erasing history and focusing on division as we have now, people have lost what this means, what freedom means and its costs. I dare say we have a few people who would be valiant enough for this, but not enough. Our country suffers for it.
I know, I am preaching to the choir here, but it feels like only our choir understands anymore. Posted by: Piper at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM (ZdaMQ) 131
Thanks for the write up Mr Dildo. The kids of 6 June 1944 saved the world. It is as simple as that.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM (flINI) 132
128 “LGBTQ+ Americans are living in a state of emergency. The multiplying threats facing millions in our community are not just perceived – they are real, tangible and dangerous,” the group’s president, Kelley Robinson, said. “In many cases they are resulting in violence against LGBTQ+ people, forcing families to uproot their lives and flee their homes in search of safer states, and triggering a tidal wave of increased homophobia and transphobia that puts the safety of each and every one of us at risk.”
Posted by: Jay in PA at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM (i7Q7S) ========== "We have to flee to states that have policies more in alignment with our values." Sounds like America, to me. I can see why they'd have a problem with it. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:31 AM (LvTSG) 133
June 5, 1944
Rome is ours. We have it surrounded and occupied. The natives are delirious with joy. What with flag waving and flower throwing and shouting and ringing it is a great show. Our battery moved from Velletri to the fair grounds SW of Rome. As soon as we closed in the new area ‘Ace’ [Taylor] took me for a flight over Rome. The main streets were thronged with people. The entrance to Vatican City was so crowded with people that we couldn’t see the ground. [Margin note: This was the Pope’s address welcoming the Allies. A lucky flight for us because flying over the Vatican is strictly forbidden. However this was a special occasion and passed uncensured.] Posted by: Muldoon at June 06, 2023 11:26 AM (991eG) ++++ Wow. Thanks for sharing that. Must have been a hell of a thing to see. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:31 AM (DU+/6) 134
Pride month and the groomers are melting down
Human Rights Campaign declares a national state of emergency for LGBTQ+ people “LGBTQ+ Americans are living in a state of emergency. The multiplying threats facing millions in our community are not just perceived – they are real, tangible and dangerous,” the group’s president, Kelley Robinson, said. “In many cases they are resulting in violence against LGBTQ+ people, forcing families to uproot their lives and flee their homes in search of safer states, and triggering a tidal wave of increased homophobia and transphobia that puts the safety of each and every one of us at risk.” Posted by: Jay in PA Fucking queer assed drama queens. Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 11:31 AM (D4vK5) 135
118 "The decision by some Ukrainian soldiers to wear patches with Nazi icons threatens to reinforce Russian propaganda used to justify the invasion."
-- That is such an amazing sentence. Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (SfD1B) It is a wonder of passive, mushy voice. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:31 AM (zZu0s) 136
When I was a kid 1968 - 70 thereabouts my father was a business partner with a guy who was one of the Rangers who climbed Pointe du Hoc. He was a big guy about 6'4" and he would laugh telling the story that as he was about 15 ft up a German shot him in the ass knocking him to the beach. He was evacuated. Died a couple of years ago at 95
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 06, 2023 11:31 AM (/xTJs) 137
Human Rights Campaign declares a national state of emergency for LGBTQ+ people
---------- During Asian Pacific American Heritage Trans Genocide Vengeance Month? REALLY??? Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 06, 2023 11:31 AM (sJSOG) 138
My dad's dad dropped paratroopers into Normady during Keokuk and Galveston. I've got several hand-written letters he sent home immediately after.
It's incredible reading the thoughts he had immediately after landing. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 06, 2023 11:31 AM (/nCD+) 139
“LGBTQ+ Americans are living in a state of emergency. The multiplying threats facing millions in our community are not just perceived – they are real, tangible and dangerous,” the group’s president, Kelley Robinson, said. “In many cases they are resulting in violence against LGBTQ+ people, forcing families to uproot their lives and flee their homes in search of safer states, and triggering a tidal wave of increased homophobia and transphobia that puts the safety of each and every one of us at risk.”
Posted by: Jay in PA at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM (i7Q7S) I'm trying to find the truthful words in there. It's not easy. Posted by: NL at June 06, 2023 11:32 AM (eGTCV) 140
131 Thanks for the write up Mr Dildo. The kids of 6 June 1944 saved the world. It is as simple as that.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM (flINI) Wonder if they would regret it now after what America has become ? Posted by: It's me donna at June 06, 2023 11:32 AM (bs+z0) 141
My dad's dad was an engineer for the navy and helped build subs during WWII.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:32 AM (LvTSG) 142
121 My Dad was sure he'd die in the fight for Japan, as he waited for his troop carrier to take him from the Philippines to Japan. It was great news when he heard the war was over.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:20 AM (ynpvh) My late FiL was in the same, er, boat. What division was your father in? Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 06, 2023 11:29 AM (l7Kbv) Um...:::looking it up::: Company E, 103rd Infantry, 43rd Division when he was discharged. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:32 AM (ynpvh) 143
>Were they afraid because of his temper? Or were they afraid that he'd give terrible orders?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison Adolph was not a morning person Posted by: DB - at June 06, 2023 11:33 AM (geLO8) 144
My favorite factoid about D-Day is that the German high command was afraid to wake Hitler up and tell him about it.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 06, 2023 11:27 AM (/r29W) ======== Were they afraid because of his temper? Or were they afraid that he'd give terrible orders? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM Both, plus Mister hilter was the only person who could authorize the movement of any Panzer forces to attack the beach head. Once he did wake up he dismissed the invasion as a feint and was convinced the real invasion would come in the following days further north. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 11:33 AM (ncXxy) 145
That is such an amazing sentence.
Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:28 AM (SfD1B) ++++ It really is. True or not, that's a hell of a sentence. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:33 AM (DU+/6) 146
It's almost like there was a systemic effort to obfuscate what fascism actually means.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:26 AM "Almost"? Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:33 AM (Wnv9h) 147
the largest faction among the resistance were the communists, they almost took over france after the war, if not for the marshall plan,
Posted by: no 6 at June 06, 2023 11:18 AM (PXvVL Charles de Gaulle was the main reason with help from the plan. Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 11:33 AM (MNhXM) 148
CBD seems to have left out the fact that the right wing of both our political parties supported Nazi Germany before Pearl Harbor.
Do you know why? Because it's not important. Posted by: NR Pax at June 06, 2023 11:33 AM (pEM7J) 149
Most of the French resistance were commies.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 11:33 AM (MNhXM) 150
#134.. Threats against LGBTQwhatevers ? More like threats from
Posted by: It's me donna at June 06, 2023 11:34 AM (bs+z0) 151
90 They were shipping infantry units back from Europe after V-E Day to the States to prep them for combat duty in the Pacific.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 11:24 AM (ncXxy) I don't believe I have ever considered that. Posted by: m at June 06, 2023 11:34 AM (LodBx) 152
My dad's dad was an engineer for the navy and helped build subs during WWII.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:32 AM My mom's dad worked building torpedoes for them. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:34 AM (Wnv9h) 153
If the video clip from "Downfall" that serves as the basis for endless Hitler memes is to be believed, he reacted badly when receiving bad news.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM (YIVH2) Eh, he was a typical lefty. He believed that he could bend reality to his will. That everything seemingly went and fell in his lap and went well for him from '34-41 is the basis for why he believed that Barbarossa would work- even if launched late. If they had stepped off as planned earlier, he might have been right. When personalities like that are presented with reality punching them in the face, they do not react... well. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:35 AM (zZu0s) 154
136 When I was a kid 1968 - 70 thereabouts my father was a business partner with a guy who was one of the Rangers who climbed Pointe du Hoc. He was a big guy about 6'4" and he would laugh telling the story that as he was about 15 ft up a German shot him in the ass knocking him to the beach. He was evacuated. Died a couple of years ago at 95
----------------- Million Dollar Wound. He is lucky. Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:35 AM (0chEi) 155
113 Not sure, TJM. My impression is that Adolf gave orders that he was not to be disturbed. And the bad news probably would have resulted in a shoot-the-messenger situation.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 06, 2023 11:35 AM (/r29W) 156
Anyone who suggests it is either profoundly ignorant of the reality, or an enemy of America and the West.
One of my favorite Daddy moments came when No. 1 Son brought a sheet, unsigned/unattributed, home from school which argued that we only dropped the bombs to show Russia our big war dick, and that Japan was ready to surrender anyhow. I said that's commie claptrap and it has to be either Noam Chomsky or Howard Zinn. The internet confirmed it was Zinn. Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 06, 2023 11:35 AM (GzDfN) 157
Charles de Gaulle was the main reason with help from the plan. My memory is de Gaulle was not the allied first choice to recognize as the French leader in exile - they wanted the commander in North Africa. But de Gaulle ended up being the man of the moment - he was also one of the best French commanders during the Fall of France. Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:35 AM (lc5cP) 158
They (LBGT lobby) certainly want to conflate gays with transgenders when a number of prominent gays want nothing to do with the T part and would like to have them kicked out.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (Keyt1) 159
One of my friend's uncle was a paratrooper.
Never talked about it. Except maybe at the VFW with his buddies. I am sure that they only talked about the good times. Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (vg8N1) 160
Posted by: Paul at June 06, 2023 11:19 AM (pFZgT)
Were I you on this sacred day, I would be doing serious repentance for blindly supporting a party whose "war leader" not only threw loyal Japanese-Americans into literal concentration camps, but doomed thousands of Jews to the gas chambers by refusing transport ships from the Reich to land in America. But you only care about 'pwning the cons." You are an historically-illiterate, deliberately ignorant, ungrateful, selfish, mewling, crawling homunculus who is not only unworthy of American citizenship, but an actual traitor to the principles and bravery of men whose crusty jockstraps you aren't worthy to lick. Begone, insect. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (AW0uW) 161
CBD seems to have left out the fact that the right wing of both our political parties supported Nazi Germany before Pearl Harbor. ....
Your timeline is way way off as usual. You Leftist commies re-write history more than a Star Wars screen writer. Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (MNhXM) Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (0chEi) 163
“In many cases they are resulting in violence against LGBTQ+ people, forcing families to uproot their lives and flee their homes in search of safer states, and triggering a tidal wave of increased homophobia and transphobia that puts the safety of each and every one of us at risk.”
1. Your histrionics are not the same as facts. 2. We don't give a shit. 3. Re-read #2. 4. I saw Homophobic Tidal Wave on their farewell tour. Posted by: NR Pax at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (pEM7J) 164
“In many cases they are resulting in violence against LGBTQ+ people, forcing families to uproot their lives and flee their homes in search of safer states,. .
Posted by: Jay in PA Funny use of the word 'families'. Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (B/X3r) 165
Charles de Gaulle was the main reason with help from the plan.
I'm reading a bio of Eisenhower, and he got along very well with De Gaulle. In fact he had to fight the rest of his chain of command and the politicians to make sure it was De Gaulle who took over. Otherwise, things might have been very different. De Gaulle was an enormous PITA, but he usually had good reasons for doing what he did, at least from the French pov. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (eOEVl) 166
149 Most of the French resistance were commies.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 11:33 AM (MNhXM) I remember reading something that there was no monolithic 'French Resistance.' They were a wide ranging bunch of groups all against each other as they were the germans. Communists, socialists, anarchists, Nationalists. Pretty much the same grab bag as you had during the Russian Civil War. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (zZu0s) 167
Both, plus Mister hilter was the only person who could authorize the movement of any Panzer forces to attack the beach head. Once he did wake up he dismissed the invasion as a feint and was convinced the real invasion would come in the following days further north.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 11:33 AM (ncXxy) ++++ The Brits did a splendid job with the disinformation operations on that front, and all of their patience - brutal, soul-crushing patience that required them to stand by while men were dying - with the intelligence obtained from Enigma and Fish was incalculably valuable. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:37 AM (DU+/6) 168
152 My dad's dad was an engineer for the navy and helped build subs during WWII.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:32 AM My mom's dad worked building torpedoes for them. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:34 AM (Wnv9h) Reminds me of a old joke from back, at least, in the 80s. Reporters went to a retirement home and asked what the various folks did for the war effort during WWI. Some said they worked in factories, some said they were soldiers on the front. One old lady said, "I was a hooker." The reporter, shocked asked, "You were what?" old lady says, "A hooker. I was the one who hooked the fabric over the wings of the airplanes." Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:37 AM (ynpvh) 169
155 113 Not sure, TJM. My impression is that Adolf gave orders that he was not to be disturbed. And the bad news probably would have resulted in a shoot-the-messenger situation.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 06, 2023 11:35 AM (/r29W) IIRC, that also happened with the poor saps who tried to tell Stalin about Barbarossa. Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at June 06, 2023 11:37 AM (N3zMI) 170
The Episcopalian Chaplain of one of the Airborne divisions served the big Episcopal church downtown. I was told that he had two sets of vestments made from parachutes, one green and one white. Some of the more liberal members of the Church didn't like that he would occasionally celebrate wearing those vestments. Even into the 80s and 90s, he would celebrate funerals for his troops. His final instructions were supposedly to be buried wearing the green/camo set.
Posted by: Fox2! at June 06, 2023 11:37 AM (xnpli) 171
159 One of my friend's uncle was a paratrooper.
Never talked about it. Except maybe at the VFW with his buddies. I am sure that they only talked about the good times. ------------------ My dad never talked about until I was Marine. Then he told me lots of details about his Pacific holiday cruise. Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:37 AM (0chEi) 172
, this battle told Germany and Italy that they no longer had the land.
Posted by: NR Pax at ******* Small point, but Italy was out of the war by September 1943. May have still been some Italian partisans under arms with the Germans I suppose. Posted by: Muldoon at June 06, 2023 11:37 AM (991eG) 173
American journalists are asking Ukrainian soldiers to cover up their Nazi insignia because it might undermine the war against Putin
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 11:14 AM (FVME7) I wonder if they've suggested that the Uke soldiers all fight in drag. That would pump the support among the AWFLs to record heights. Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 06, 2023 11:38 AM (5BHhI) 174
In many cases they are resulting in violence against LGBTQ+ people, forcing families to uproot their lives and flee their homes in search of safer states
The only thing the red states are doing is banning child grooming. If you see that as violence against you...you are a pedophile. Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:38 AM (lc5cP) 175
Happy (?) D Day anniversary
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 11:38 AM (xcxpd) 176
We can't even take NYC or San Francisco now.
-- Heck, we can't even keep gay porn out of elementary schools or sex cults from mutilating minors. Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:38 AM (SfD1B) 177
The only thing the red states are doing is banning child grooming. If you see that as violence against you...you are a pedophile.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:38 AM (lc5cP) Ahem. Posted by: Minor Attracted Persons at June 06, 2023 11:38 AM (/nCD+) 178
175 Happy (?) D Day anniversary
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 11:38 AM (xcxpd) ========= Seasons greetings? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:38 AM (LvTSG) 179
We can also thank John Hersey for some propaganda.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:39 AM (vg8N1) 180
Small point, but Italy was out of the war by September 1943. May have still been some Italian partisans under arms with the Germans I suppose.
----------------- Quite a lot on the Eastern Front. Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:39 AM (0chEi) 181
American journalists are asking Ukrainian soldiers to cover up their Nazi insignia because it might undermine the war against Putin
https://tinyurl.com/ye28sz47 Posted by: SMH at what's coming at June 06, 2023 11:39 AM (fhgNd) 182
My mom's dad worked building torpedoes for them.
--------------- Was that in Alexandria, VA? Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM Newport. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:39 AM (Wnv9h) 183
One of my grandmothers worked at Berger Manufacturing during the war. iirc, she worked on bomb bay doors and wing flaps.
She even looked like Rosie the Riveter. Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2023 11:39 AM (B/X3r) 184
he was also one of the best French commanders during the Fall of France.
Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:35 AM (lc5cP) Yes...de Gaulle led the famous Bordeaux Brigade breakout against the German 29th division...they saved thousands of bottles of precious wine and the master recipe for the best baguettes in all of France. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:40 AM (ZCCyW) 185
179 We can also thank John Hersey for some propaganda.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:39 AM (vg8N1) Hershey's Chocolate >>> John Hersey Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:40 AM (ynpvh) 186
When I was a kid 1968 - 70 thereabouts my father was a business partner with a guy who was one of the Rangers who climbed Pointe du Hoc. He was a big guy about 6'4" and he would laugh telling the story that as he was about 15 ft up a German shot him in the ass knocking him to the beach. He was evacuated. Died a couple of years ago at 95
Posted by: Smell the Glove God Bless him and may he RIP. Posted by: JT at June 06, 2023 11:40 AM (T4tVD) 187
From previous thread:
366 >Mt Rushmore shutdown?...how is this gonna' work? Posted by: BignJames You will not be allowed to look at it signs posted everywhere: DO NOT LOOK Posted by: DB - at June 06, 2023 10:53 AM (geLO ---- Posted below the 'Do Not Look' sign: PRIVATE - DO NOT READ THIS SIGN Posted by: Ciampino - I'm trying to catch up! at June 06, 2023 11:40 AM (qfLjt) 188
Once he did wake up he dismissed the invasion as a feint and was convinced the real invasion would come in the following days further north.
Posted by: Mister Scott At Calais? Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 11:40 AM (D4vK5) 189
American journalists are asking Ukrainian soldiers to cover up their Nazi insignia because it might undermine the war against Putin
https://tinyurl.com/ye28sz47 Posted by: SMH -- Pretty soon the NYT will admit there are bioweapons labs there, too, but discussing them would be inappropriate because it would support the reason the Russians gave for invading. Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:40 AM (SfD1B) 190
182 My mom's dad worked building torpedoes for them.
--------------- Was that in Alexandria, VA? Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM Newport. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:39 AM (Wnv9h) News to me. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:40 AM (ynpvh) 191
They died fighting Fascism. They must be turning in their graves with what's happened here since then.
I think they are turning and giving us the help we need in this fight. Posted by: t-bird at June 06, 2023 11:40 AM (dNNCD) 192
Must say that I was exhausted when I finished defending Pointe du Hoc in Call of Duty.
Must have been unbelievably worst in real life. Posted by: SMOD at June 06, 2023 11:41 AM (RHGPo) Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:41 AM (eOEVl) 194
It struck me this Memorial Day, and this thread reminded me: We couldn't take Normandy today, and if by some miracle, we did, the American people would demand we surrender the next day.
- We invaded Normandy on 6/6/44 and Saipan 9 days later on 6/15/44. We couldn't do either of those operations today. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 11:41 AM (FVME7) 195
Yes...de Gaulle led the famous Bordeaux Brigade breakout against the German 29th division...they saved thousands of bottles of precious wine and the master recipe for the best baguettes in all of France.
The French performed very poorly over all but...but De Gaulle really did have some success. Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:41 AM (lc5cP) 196
In the 1940 election, amusingly, Dewey was more interventionist then FDR, at least publicly.
Taft and Vandenberg were the serious isolationists, but concern over the issue may be what made Wendell Wilkie the actual candidate. FWIW, he wrote a book called "One World," essentially coining the phrase. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 06, 2023 11:41 AM (jYCXf) 197
lol...big war dick...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 11:41 AM (xcxpd) 198
Newport.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:39 AM (Wnv9h) News to me. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:40 AM ISWYDT. The other Newport. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:41 AM (Wnv9h) 199
The Nazi symbolism use by Ukrainians may be tied to the Holodomor, derived from the Ukrainian words for hunger (holod) and extermination (mor).
Between 1931 and 1934 at least 5 million people perished of hunger all cross the U.S.S.R. Among them were at least 3.9 million Ukrainians. Ironically, this is the stuff that NYTimes reporter Walter Duranty lied about when he was busy getting a Pulitzer Prize. Posted by: SMOD at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (RHGPo) 200
“These are the boys of Pointe du Hoc . . . ”
Posted by: Ronald Wilson Reagan at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (DhOHl) 201
A grateful salute to my neighbor, Steve, who went ashore 79 years ago as a 17-year-old(he lied about his age). He is still a gentle, wonderful man who saw unimaginable carnage at such a young age.
Posted by: La2la at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (wfrSv) 202
142 121 My Dad was sure he'd die in the fight for Japan, as he waited for his troop carrier to take him from the Philippines to Japan. It was great news when he heard the war was over.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:20 AM (ynpvh) My late FiL was in the same, er, boat. What division was your father in? Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 06, 2023 11:29 AM (l7Kbv) Um...:::looking it up::: Company E, 103rd Infantry, 43rd Division when he was discharged. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:32 AM (ynpvh) Same Div as your FIL, AZ Hi Desert? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (ynpvh) 203
One of my grandmothers worked at Berger Manufacturing during the war. iirc, she worked on bomb bay doors and wing flaps.
She even looked like Rosie the Riveter. Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2023 11:39 AM (B/X3r) ++++ The Canadian version of "Rosie the Riveter" was Veronica Foster, dubbed, "Ronnie the Bren Gun Girl:" https://tinyurl.com/4tesewc2 hubba hubba Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (DU+/6) 204
Were I you on this sacred day, I would be doing serious repentance for blindly supporting a party whose "war leader" not only threw loyal Japanese-Americans into literal concentration camps, but doomed thousands of Jews to the gas chambers by refusing transport ships from the Reich to land in America.
But you only care about 'pwning the cons." You are an historically-illiterate, deliberately ignorant, ungrateful, selfish, mewling, crawling homunculus who is not only unworthy of American citizenship, but an actual traitor to the principles and bravery of men whose crusty jockstraps you aren't worthy to lick. Begone, insect. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (AW0uW) That...was..frigging..awesome. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (VwHCD) 205
The only thing the red states are doing is banning child grooming. If you see that as violence against you...you are a pedophile.
Posted by: 18-1 Ahem. Posted by: Minor Attracted Persons We just had a third grandbaby. Try me. Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (D4vK5) 206
My Grandpa built B-29s, including the Enola Gay.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (xPJvm) 207
163 “In many cases they are resulting in violence against LGBTQ+ people, forcing families to uproot their lives and flee their homes in search of safer states, and triggering a tidal wave of increased homophobia and transphobia that puts the safety of each and every one of us at risk.”
It would be a shame if Pride Month would have to get downplayed a soupçon here and there. Posted by: NL at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (eGTCV) 208
I remember reading something that there was no monolithic 'French Resistance.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (zZu0s) Yes...the brave prostitutes who gave German officers the clap, and the even braver bakery clerks who sold them stale croissants! Viva La France! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (ZCCyW) 209
One of my grandmothers worked at Berger Manufacturing during the war. iirc, she worked on bomb bay doors and wing flaps.
She even looked like Rosie the Riveter. Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2023 11:39 AM Wow...an actual flapper. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (Wnv9h) 210
Ironically, this is the stuff that NYTimes reporter Walter Duranty lied about when he was busy getting a Pulitzer Prize.
Posted by: SMOD at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (RHGPo) The more things change... Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (/nCD+) 211
208 Yes...the brave prostitutes who gave German officers the clap, and the even braver bakery clerks who sold them stale croissants!
Viva La France! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (ZCCyW) ========== Audrey Hepburn? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, watching some more Best Pictures at June 06, 2023 11:43 AM (LvTSG) 212
My Mother was a pattern layer in a airplane factory during WWII.. yeah... I'm old... I wasn't born during the war... My Mom was young and newly married....
Posted by: It's me donna at June 06, 2023 11:43 AM (bs+z0) 213
... But you only care about 'pwning the cons." You are an historically-illiterate, deliberately ignorant, ungrateful, selfish, mewling, crawling homunculus who is not only unworthy of American citizenship, but an actual traitor to the principles and bravery of men whose crusty jockstraps you aren't worthy to lick. ...
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (AW0uW) ++++ Top flight cruelty Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:43 AM (DU+/6) 214
Audrey Hepburn had the clap?!?!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (xcxpd) 215
My Dad was 4-F because Scarlet Fever as a child left him deaf in one ear.
He spent the war building PBYs at Consolidated Aircraft in San Diego. Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (vg8N1) 216
203 One of my grandmothers worked at Berger Manufacturing during the war. iirc, she worked on bomb bay doors and wing flaps.
She even looked like Rosie the Riveter. Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2023 11:39 AM (B/X3r) ++++ The Canadian version of "Rosie the Riveter" was Veronica Foster, dubbed, "Ronnie the Bren Gun Girl:" https://tinyurl.com/4tesewc2 hubba hubba Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (DU+/6) A smoke after enjoying her work on that gun. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (ynpvh) 217
Were I you on this sacred day, I would be doing serious repentance for blindly supporting a party whose "war leader" not only threw loyal Japanese-Americans into literal concentration camps, but doomed thousands of Jews to the gas chambers by refusing transport ships from the Reich to land in America.
But you only care about 'pwning the cons." You are an historically-illiterate, deliberately ignorant, ungrateful, selfish, mewling, crawling homunculus who is not only unworthy of American citizenship, but an actual traitor to the principles and bravery of men whose crusty jockstraps you aren't worthy to lick. Begone, insect. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (AW0uW) That...was..frigging..awesome. Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM An epic rant. *docks 1/2 point for omission of the word "nickelfucker"* Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (Wnv9h) 218
They were cranking one out every 22 hours.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (vg8N1) 219
It struck me this Memorial Day, and this thread reminded me: We couldn't take Normandy today, and if by some miracle, we did, the American people would demand we surrender the next day.
We lost 5K men in the whole WoT. There were individual battles where we lost about that many in WWII. So no...we couldn't fight WWII today. Also, our soldiers wouldn't be allowed to FIGHT with the RoE we have now. anyway Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (lc5cP) 220
Henry Ford was a hard and fast isolationist not wanting to produce munitions for the war, until the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. Then Ford started making planes.
Posted by: SMOD at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (RHGPo) 221
I remember reading something that there was no monolithic 'French Resistance.'
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (zZu0s) Every frenchman was in Le Resistance. Just ask them. Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 11:45 AM (D4vK5) 222
We invaded Normandy on 6/6/44 and Saipan 9 days later on 6/15/44. We couldn't do either of those operations today.
------------------ I believe the US Army had 125 Divisions at that point. The Marines were standing up two new Divisions to get them to six. How many ships were we launching each month is probably around 20-30. This is what total war looks like. Be grateful we haven't been called on to do this again. Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:45 AM (0chEi) 223
>>Pretty soon the NYT will admit there are bioweapons labs there, too, but discussing them would be inappropriate because it would support the reason the Russians gave for invading.
Prior to the coup the CIA and the Obama/Biden administration ran in Ukraine the NYT and other newspapers frequently wrote about the Nazi presence in Ukraine. It wasn't a secret until it became politically inconvenient. Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 11:45 AM (ZLI7S) 224
My wife's grandfather flew P-38's in the Mediterranean Theater. Friend of my parents was a B-17 bombardier and flew sorties during D Day. And my neighbor growing up flew with Pappy Boyington in the Pacific.
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at June 06, 2023 11:45 AM (OgrpQ) 225
He spent the war building PBYs at Consolidated Aircraft in San Diego.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (vg8N1) The industrial production of America during WWII was absolutely incredible. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:45 AM (ZCCyW) 226
The Canadian version of "Rosie the Riveter" was Veronica Foster, dubbed, "Ronnie the Bren Gun Girl:"
https://tinyurl.com/4tesewc2 hubba hubba Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) A smoke after enjoying her work on that gun. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) "Bren, was it good for you too?" Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2023 11:46 AM (B/X3r) 227
That...was..frigging..awesome.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM An epic rant. *docks 1/2 point for omission of the word "nickelfucker"* Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (Wnv9h) Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this error by omission. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 06, 2023 11:46 AM (KbCG3) 228
Viva La France!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM (ZCCyW) Eh, any of them did more than modern 'Antifa.' And with far more danger. Although the commies can still go fuck themselves. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:46 AM (zZu0s) 229
We can also thank John Hersey for some propaganda.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse John Richard Hersey (June 17, 1914 – March 24, 1993) was an American writer and journalist. He is considered one of the earliest practitioners of the so-called New Journalism, in which storytelling techniques of fiction are adapted to non-fiction reportage. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 11:47 AM (FVME7) 230
225 He spent the war building PBYs at Consolidated Aircraft in San Diego.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (vg8N1) The industrial production of America during WWII was absolutely incredible. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:45 AM (ZCCyW) the sleeping giant that Isoroku Yamamoto warned about. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:47 AM (ynpvh) 231
The industrial production of America during WWII was absolutely incredible.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:45 AM (ZCCyW) It was insane. I think the one of the cooler things was that Lazy-Boy made seats for Sherman Tanks. Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at June 06, 2023 11:47 AM (OgrpQ) 232
218 They were cranking one out every 22 hours.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (vg8N1) Pfff! Posted by: Teen-Aged Boys Everywhere at June 06, 2023 11:47 AM (N3zMI) 233
Invade Saipan today?
More like every degenerate in DC has a kid with a share in a "Foundation" that does business with a bank that does business with a bank in Saipan that gets "International Development Funding" from seven hundred and thirty five different unique acts of legislation and regulation. Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 06, 2023 11:47 AM (9UlRk) 234
I remember seeing a video, perhaps by Mark Felton, of a mock invasion force set up in England across from a beach rumoured to be the site of the invasion.
There were men in uniform and equipment made of wood. It apparent did help delay German reaction to the real invasion. Posted by: NL at June 06, 2023 11:48 AM (eGTCV) 235
I'm reading a bio of Eisenhower, and he got along very well with De Gaulle.
Hmm. Churchill makes it clear in his war memoirs that he couldn't stand de Gaulle, who was a self-aggrandizing pompous little prick. Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 06, 2023 11:48 AM (GzDfN) 236
An epic rant.
*docks 1/2 point for omission of the word "nickelfucker"* Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (Wnv9h) Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this error by omission. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 06, 2023 11:46 AM (KbCG3) I think he could have worked in more references to his parentage as well as his barnyard proclivities. *holds up 9.2 sign* Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:48 AM (zZu0s) 237
225 He spent the war building PBYs at Consolidated Aircraft in San Diego.
------------------ Those were some cool planes. The Air Station at Kaneohe was designed for PBYs. They'd land in the bay and taxi over to the ramps. Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:48 AM (0chEi) 238
The Canadian version of "Rosie the Riveter" was Veronica Foster, dubbed, "Ronnie the Bren Gun Girl:"
https://tinyurl.com/4tesewc2 hubba hubba Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) *** She looks like Elizabeth Perkins Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 06, 2023 11:48 AM (flINI) 239
I know how annoying the Frogs can be and it is somehow fitting that they get beaten up over something they are really good at: being brave.
The French are a warrior race. Impossibly arrogant and foolhardy too obv. And they damn near beat the Wehrmacht but the Krauts pulled out a miracle in the Ardennes. And the Belgies screwed them. Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 11:48 AM (HqdCe) 240
Why are the streets of Paris lined with trees?
Posted by: So the Germans can march in the shade! at June 06, 2023 11:49 AM (DhOHl) 241
194 We invaded Normandy on 6/6/44 and Saipan 9 days later on 6/15/44. We couldn't do either of those operations today.
at least not until we'd sorted out our pronouns. Posted by: anachronda at June 06, 2023 11:49 AM (oY6Yp) 242
It was insane. I think the one of the cooler things was that Lazy-Boy made seats for Sherman Tanks.
Posted by: Wierzbowski formerly QID at June 06, 2023 11:47 AM (OgrpQ) ++++ A friend of mine has an M-1 manufactured in 1943. It is stamped with the manufacturer: IBM. I would love to have that rifle. It is oddly apt. If there was ever a machine for the conduct of international "business," it's that. Every part of America's vast industrial complex was committed to war. Nothing at that scale has ever been known before or since, and may never be known again. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:49 AM (DU+/6) 243
CNN's Chris Licht has apologized to his employees for trying to make CNN a slightly less far left lunatic network. LOL
Posted by: Montec at June 06, 2023 11:49 AM (OalnH) 244
The industrial production of America during WWII was absolutely incredible.
John C.H. Lee is an unsung hero of the ETO. He headed the Services of Supply, and made sure that GIs had everything they needed, in quantities that beggared the imagination of the Germans. https://tinyurl.com/mrxb9hrf Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:49 AM (eOEVl) 245
"You knock out a yankee cannon and they replace it with three."
- My mom discussing the Civil War. Colonels discuss strategy. Generals discuss logistics. Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:49 AM (vg8N1) 246
Churchill makes it clear in his war memoirs that he couldn't stand de Gaulle, who was a self-aggrandizing pompous little prick.
Posted by: Bandersnatch He was french. What did Churchill expect? Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 11:50 AM (D4vK5) 247
The Canadian version of "Rosie the Riveter" was Veronica Foster, dubbed, "Ronnie the Bren Gun Girl:"
https://tinyurl.com/4tesewc2 hubba hubba Posted by: Joe Mannix And then you see the lady! Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 06, 2023 11:50 AM (UL8Eh) 248
John Richard Hersey (June 17, 1914 – March 24, 1993) was an American writer and journalist. He is considered one of the earliest practitioners of the so-called New Journalism, in which storytelling techniques of fiction are adapted to non-fiction reportage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 11:47 AM (FVME7) Takes a real figure of genius and talent to say "hey lets make up a bunch of shit that didn't happen but pretend it actually did, and just say it pretty so it sounds like a good story". Amazing no one ever thought of that before. Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 06, 2023 11:50 AM (9UlRk) 249
Dr. Karen Johnson was let go from her position as the director of Washington state’s Office of Equity.
- Dr. Johnson accusing certain OFM employees of being paternalistic during a meeting, then getting “infuriated” and telling her staff to log off the meeting when Chief Financial Officer David Schumacher indicated that she did not know what the term meant and the dictionary definition was read. - A woman being told she could not have her hair braided because it was “cultural appropriation.” - Dr. Johnson “alluding” to employees that she received messages from God and telling specific people that “God had instructed her to hire them and that they would be disappointing God by not accepting the role.” - Dr. Johnson, who is Black, telling a Mexican employee that “this may take some time for me because I generally distrust Mexican people. Mexican people have the option of being White when it is convenient for them.” Posted by: SMOD at June 06, 2023 11:50 AM (RHGPo) 250
Delivering cheesecakes to all the GIs at Christmas was intended to tell the Germans that they were fooked.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:50 AM (vg8N1) 251
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (AW0uW)
That...was..frigging..awesome. Indeed, it was. Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 06, 2023 11:51 AM (Xrfse) 252
Pappy Boyington in the Pacific.
- Interesting anti-Boyington video. 14 minutes. https://youtu.be/zH6lFWmXV9M Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 11:51 AM (FVME7) 253
Colonels discuss strategy.
Generals discuss logistics. Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse E-4 Mafia makes it happen. Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 11:51 AM (D4vK5) 254
This busty brunette in a former factory is grateful that she isn't speaking German, Russian or Japanese:
https://is.gd/pXn8eH Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:51 AM (DU+/6) 255
I'm reading a bio of Eisenhower, and he got along very well with De Gaulle.
Hmm. Churchill makes it clear in his war memoirs that he couldn't stand de Gaulle, who was a self-aggrandizing pompous little prick. That is true. Like I said, Ike had to fight the pols to get De Gaulle. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:51 AM (eOEVl) 256
A friend of mine has an M-1 manufactured in 1943. It is stamped with the manufacturer: IBM.
---------------- All of our .50 HMG receivers were built by Singer Sewing Company. You can't beat an M-2 HMG. Fucking indestructible. Posted by: Puddinhead at June 06, 2023 11:51 AM (0chEi) 257
249 Dr. Karen Johnson was let go from her position as the director of Washington state’s Office of Equity.
... - Dr. Johnson “alluding” to employees that she received messages from God and telling specific people that “God had instructed her to hire them and that they would be disappointing God by not accepting the role.” ... Posted by: SMOD at June 06, 2023 11:50 AM (RHGPo) Question: Which god is hers? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (ynpvh) 258
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (zZu0s)
Yes a number of different factions but mostly commies / socialists is my understanding. The most damning evidence is there was really no French Resistance until after Germany attacked Russia. Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (MNhXM) 259
A friend of mine has an M-1 manufactured in 1943. It is stamped with the manufacturer: IBM.
I would love to have that rifle. It is oddly apt. If there was ever a machine for the conduct of international "business," it's that. Every part of America's vast industrial complex was committed to war. Nothing at that scale has ever been known before or since, and may never be known again. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:49 AM Rockola made M1 Carbines during the war and they are among the most valuable ones for collectors. They went from making pinball machines and juke boxes to producing combat rifles literally overnight. That could not happen now. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (ncXxy) 260
Kids in Normandy have to do a project in 6th grade where they tell the history of one unit and they actually take a field trip to the place where that unit fought to tell the story to their class.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 06, 2023 11:11 AM (7B5FA) ==================== I'd like to see that same project assigned in Normandy, NJ and all across our great country. Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (fDHNy) 261
Dr. Johnson, who is Black, telling a Mexican employee that “this may take some time for me because I generally distrust Mexican people. Mexican people have the option of being White when it is convenient for them.”
I can see why she was the perfect choice for a DEI role. Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (lc5cP) 262
"Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that Bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone."
Posted by: Eisenhower's In Case We Fail note at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (DhOHl) 263
We lost 5K men in the whole WoT.
-- It would've been impossible for al-qaeda to have taken those countries alone without us securing them first, though. Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (SfD1B) 264
- Dr. Johnson, who is Black, telling a Mexican employee that “this may take some time for me because I generally distrust Mexican people. Mexican people have the option of being White when it is convenient for them.”
Posted by: SMOD at June 06, 2023 11:50 AM (RHGPo) Pinochet-arms crossed-chest-sunglasses-based dot jpeg Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (HqdCe) 265
Also, our soldiers wouldn't be allowed to FIGHT with the RoE we have now. anyway
Posted by: 18-1 at June 06, 2023 11:44 AM (lc5cP) This is true. The shift in RoE from my first tour to my last was bonkers. Comparing them to an actual war... One can only shake one's head. Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 06, 2023 11:53 AM (/nCD+) 266
Yes...de Gaulle led the famous Bordeaux Brigade breakout against the German 29th division...they saved thousands of bottles of precious wine and the master recipe for the best baguettes in all of France.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ******** And the garlic, don't forget the garlic repositories. Good thing you weren't in charge of the garlic salvage, eh, Mr. Greenthumb? 😀 Posted by: Muldoon at June 06, 2023 11:53 AM (991eG) 267
Yes a number of different factions but mostly commies / socialists is my understanding. The most damning evidence is there was really no French Resistance until after Germany attacked Russia.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (MNhXM) Huh. Funny how that worked(works.) Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:53 AM (zZu0s) 268
Hmm. Churchill makes it clear in his war memoirs that he couldn't stand de Gaulle, who was a self-aggrandizing pompous little prick.
Wasn't he actually a tall prick? Posted by: NL at June 06, 2023 11:53 AM (eGTCV) 269
I am upgrading to Life Member, at $150. I suggest you do the same.
I have been meaning to do that. And TSRA as well. Thanks for the reminder. Posted by: Oddbob at June 06, 2023 11:53 AM (nfrXX) 270
Not enough US servicemen died. - Col. Lindsey Graham Bronze Star medal for meritorious service as a senior legal adviser to the Air Force in Iraq
Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 06, 2023 11:53 AM (to8pj) Posted by: Washington Nearsider at June 06, 2023 11:54 AM (/nCD+) 272
My grandmother worked at Andrew Higgins in NOLA during the war while they built the landing craft for the invasion. After the war they were going to throw away the excess rolls of linen used for blueprints. She asked for them and made linen handkerchiefs for my dad. Donated some to the DDay Museum.
Posted by: La2la at June 06, 2023 11:54 AM (wfrSv) 273
259 A friend of mine has an M-1 manufactured in 1943. It is stamped with the manufacturer: IBM.
I would love to have that rifle. It is oddly apt. If there was ever a machine for the conduct of international "business," it's that. Every part of America's vast industrial complex was committed to war. Nothing at that scale has ever been known before or since, and may never be known again. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:49 AM Rockola made M1 Carbines during the war and they are among the most valuable ones for collectors. They went from making pinball machines and juke boxes to producing combat rifles literally overnight. That could not happen now. Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (ncXxy) We couldn't make ventilators right just a few years ago. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:54 AM (ynpvh) 274
Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that Bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone.
That's how it's done. No non-apology apologies for Ike. He was widely recognized for being willing to accept responsibility, good or bad. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:54 AM (eOEVl) 275
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Ciampino's Rescue kitties https://is.gd/WQ5JcT There's another photo update #74 at the link. Take a look if interested. Make sure to click on "See Older Updates" as well if it's your first time. https://is.gd/WQ5JcT ALSO LIVE STREAMING!! - Biscuits' BABIES ON WEBCAM Now most nights as well https://www.twitch.tv/kittenwatch Posted by: Ciampino -- I'm trying to catch up! at June 06, 2023 11:54 AM (qfLjt) 276
It's almist like Churchill was a really bad guy and London has always been our most dangerous enemy.
Almost. Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 11:54 AM (HqdCe) 277
If you haven’t already, check out “Medal of Honor” on Netflix. Profiles of medal recipients that are truly remarkable. Makes you proud to live on the same planet with those guys.
Posted by: Cookie at June 06, 2023 11:54 AM (sEpeN) 278
Woudda been tough to storm those beaches in heels and dresses. No? Be queer as you can be.....New Army.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 11:54 AM (pohLc) 279
Yes a number of different factions but mostly commies / socialists is my understanding. The most damning evidence is there was really no French Resistance until after Germany attacked Russia.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (MNhXM) ++++ The American press didn't have much bad to say about the Nazis until they launched Barbarossa. And it wasn't "it's time to deal with this menace, because he knows no restraint." Had Hitler not committed the unpardonable sin of invading a communist country, the American press would never have supported the War. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:55 AM (DU+/6) 280
My grandmother worked at Andrew Higgins in NOLA during the war while they built the landing craft for the invasion. After the war they were going to throw away the excess rolls of linen used for blueprints. She asked for them and made linen handkerchiefs for my dad. Donated some to the DDay Museum.
Great story. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:55 AM (eOEVl) 281
She asked for them and made linen handkerchiefs for my dad. Donated some to the DDay Museum.
Posted by: La2la at June 06, 2023 11:54 AM (wfrSv) Great story! And a marvelous museum... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:55 AM (ZCCyW) 282
We couldn't make ventilators right just a few years ago.
-- Well, if the intention was to NOT kill people... Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:55 AM (SfD1B) 283
Anyone who can, go visit the American cemetery/memorial, it's impactful to say the least. Best done off-season. I went in late October and it was practically empty.
Posted by: Montec at June 06, 2023 11:55 AM (OalnH) 284
deGaulle was 6'5".
Nobody ever called him a little prick. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (jYCXf) 285
Very late and no time to read the comments and check but wanted to mention the movie Hacksaw Ridge. Itis a fantastic movie which showed the unbelievable courage troops displayed in an incredibly difficult tactical situation.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (t/2Uw) 286
Thanks for the remembrance and pictures, CBD.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (Keyt1) 287
"Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that Bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone."
Posted by: Eisenhower's In Case We Fail note at June 06, 2023 11:52 AM (DhOHl) ++++ No wonder the guy went through four packs of Camel unfiltereds per day during the War. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (DU+/6) 288
I remember reading something that there was no monolithic 'French Resistance.'
- After the war every Frenchman had been in the Resistance and no German had been a Nazi. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (FVME7) 289
284 deGaulle was 6'5".
Nobody ever called him a little prick. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (jYCXf) Okay, a big prick. Better? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (ynpvh) 290
Wasn't he actually a tall prick?
Posted by: NL at June 06, 2023 11:53 AM (eGTCV) Yeah. He also started the run on US gold that triggered Nixon's 1971 move to fiat. He was a magnificent bastard of a man. Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (HqdCe) 291
284 deGaulle was 6'5".
Nobody ever called him a little prick. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (jYCXf) I didn't say he *is* a little prick... Posted by: Mrs. DeGaulle at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (9UlRk) 292
282 We couldn't make ventilators right just a few years ago.
-- Well, if the intention was to NOT kill people... Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:55 AM (SfD1B) Imagine if they had made them 'wrong.' Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (zZu0s) 293
113 106
'Were they afraid because of his temper? Or were they afraid that he'd give terrible orders?' They knew he would say no to transferring the 15th Army from Calais(i.e the only chance Germany had to kill the landing) so they didn't bother. Hitler was sure for a while that there'd be a 2nd landing at Calais. Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (yvHe0) 294
103 Often overshadowed by the remarkable accomplishments at Normandy on 6/6/44 was the liberation of Rome with initial Allied troops entering on 6/4 and the capital secured on 6/5. My dad was there and had a unique experience:
Posted by: Muldoon at June 06, 2023 As always, thanks for sharing, Muldoon. Posted by: Lola - ALL the 1/6 videotapes from Jade, too. at June 06, 2023 11:57 AM (GshMh) 295
The industrial production of America during WWII was absolutely incredible. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:45 AM (ZCCyW) __________ And in 1938 it didn't exist. We had no real defense industry. A lot of businesses wanted nothing to do with the government because so many got screwed after WWI. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 06, 2023 11:57 AM (MoZTd) 296
Churchill was somewhat pompous too.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:57 AM (vg8N1) 297
I am in awe of those willing to sacrifice their lives for a concept such as country.
Always have been, always will be. These are gods among men. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 06, 2023 11:58 AM (KbCG3) 298
The industrial production of America during WWII was absolutely incredible.
America is unmatched in pronoun production. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:58 AM (eOEVl) 299
That's what the picture of those cliffs reminded me of.
I had a trip to Normandy planned but never made it. It is still on my bucket list. Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 06, 2023 11:58 AM (t/2Uw) 300
259 A friend of mine has an M-1 manufactured in 1943. It is stamped with the manufacturer: IBM.
I would love to have that rifle. It is oddly apt. If there was ever a machine for the conduct of international "business," it's that. Every part of America's vast industrial complex was committed to war. Nothing at that scale has ever been known before or since, and may never be known again. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:49 AM Rockola made M1 Carbines during the war and they are among the most valuable ones for collectors. They went from making pinball machines and juke boxes to producing combat rifles literally overnight. That could not happen now. Posted by: Mister Scott ---------- Most M1 Carbines or M1 Garands are mixmasters with parts from a dizzying number of contractors and subcontractors so that entire books have been written how to identify the makers of each part. WWII era British and German wartime rifles also share this fate plus post war refurbishing and the distribution of German Mausers captured or taken as reparations created a vast floating parts pool of WWII armaments that were given across the globe. Posted by: whig at June 06, 2023 11:58 AM (g4ryy) 301
"They want to destroy it; they want to make us dependent; they want to erode the love of freedom and liberty that created the West, and it is our duty to fight back. Not just defend...but take the fight to them, like the Rangers at Pointe du Hoc!"
I'm going to be pretty brutally honest here, the first step to this is one of two things: either raise an actual family, or if you're past that age, help others do it. It doesn't matter if we are free or not if we're extinct. This likely means slapping a bunch of knuckleheaded 20-somethings that don't want kids because it'll get in the way of snapping travel selfies with their dog, or think the can put it off until they're 45. And lending a hand to those younger relatives that are actually building families. Posted by: somedood at June 06, 2023 11:58 AM (++emK) 302
298 The industrial production of America during WWII was absolutely incredible.
America is unmatched in pronoun production. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 11:58 AM (eOEVl) How far we have fallen Posted by: It's me donna at June 06, 2023 11:58 AM (bs+z0) 303
Funny about the French. When The Great War started, everyone, including the Commies, joined the effort.
When WWII started, everyone bugged-out. Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:58 AM (vg8N1) 304
160 Posted by: Paul at June 06, 2023 11:19 AM (pFZgT)
Were I you on this sacred day, I would be doing serious repentance for blindly supporting a party whose "war leader" not only threw loyal Japanese-Americans into literal concentration camps, but doomed thousands of Jews to the gas chambers by refusing transport ships from the Reich to land in America. But you only care about 'pwning the cons." You are an historically-illiterate, deliberately ignorant, ungrateful, selfish, mewling, crawling homunculus who is not only unworthy of American citizenship, but an actual traitor to the principles and bravery of men whose crusty jockstraps you aren't worthy to lick. Begone, insect. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 06, 2023 11:36 AM (AW0uW) A+ Posted by: m at June 06, 2023 11:59 AM (LodBx) Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:59 AM (SfD1B) 306
If you haven’t already, check out “Medal of Honor” on Netflix. Profiles of medal recipients that are truly remarkable. Makes you proud to live on the same planet with those guys.
Posted by: Cookie Saved! Thank you for the heads up. Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 11:59 AM (D4vK5) 307
DeGaulle might have been a prick, but this picture is pretty heartwarming. He was notorious for being fairly reserved and unemotional with regard to his family, but his daughter Anne had Downs Syndrome and he was apparently very vivacious with her, always playing with and singing to her, etc. This picture is pretty iconic as it shows him playing with his young daughter on the beach:
https://is.gd/HdaGii Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:59 AM (DU+/6) 308
268 Hmm. Churchill makes it clear in his war memoirs that he couldn't stand de Gaulle, who was a self-aggrandizing pompous little prick.
Wasn't he actually a tall prick? i've heard size doesn't matter. Posted by: anachronda at June 06, 2023 11:59 AM (oY6Yp) 309
And lending a hand to those younger relatives that are actually building families.
Posted by: somedood at June 06, 2023 11:58 AM (++emK) Or 40-somethings that steadfastly refuse to bring a newly minted human being into this festering shitpit of a universe against their will. Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 06, 2023 12:00 PM (9UlRk) 310
A friend of mine has an M-1 manufactured in 1943. It is stamped with the manufacturer: IBM.
I have a Springfield M1 that was issued to the French. It's in great shape. Only thrown down once! Posted by: Tonypete at June 06, 2023 12:00 PM (B/X3r) 311
43rd Division when he was discharged.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:32 AM (ynpvh) Same Division, but he was a redleg. He never had a Japanese car, hated rice, and would never allow anyone to say nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki was wrong (he was dead on right with that). He marched through Nagasaki on his way up to the northern area on the island during the occupation. Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 06, 2023 12:00 PM (l7Kbv) 312
266 Yes...de Gaulle led the famous Bordeaux Brigade breakout against the German 29th division...they saved thousands of bottles of precious wine and the master recipe for the best baguettes in all of France.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ******** And the garlic, don't forget the garlic repositories. Good thing you weren't in charge of the garlic salvage, eh, Mr. Greenthumb? 😀 Posted by: Muldoon at June 06, 2023 11:53 AM (991eG) ---- garlic repositories -- I read that as garlic suppositories. Posted by: Ciampino --- I'm trying to catch up! at June 06, 2023 12:00 PM (qfLjt) 313
This picture is pretty iconic as it shows him playing with his young daughter on the beach:
https://is.gd/HdaGii Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:59 AM (DU+/6) Moving Posted by: It's me donna at June 06, 2023 12:00 PM (bs+z0) 314
Astrud Gilberto, the Brazilian singer, songwriter and entertainer whose off-hand, English-language cameo on “The Girl from Ipanema” made her a worldwide voice of bossa nova, has died at age 83.
Posted by: SMOD at June 06, 2023 12:00 PM (RHGPo) 315
This picture is pretty iconic as it shows him playing with his young daughter on the beach:
___ Dude wore a suit to the beach. That's some baller action right there. Posted by: Montec at June 06, 2023 12:01 PM (OalnH) 316
303 Funny about the French. When The Great War started, everyone, including the Commies, joined the effort.
When WWII started, everyone bugged-out. Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 11:58 AM (vg8N1) WWI affected... everyone psychologically. It fucked up a hell of a lot. I'd say psychologically, it destroyed more of the british and french will than dunkirk or being beaten by the Nazis. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 12:01 PM (zZu0s) 317
This picture is pretty iconic as it shows him playing with his young daughter on the beach:
https://is.gd/HdaGii Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:59 AM (DU+/6) He wasn't our "friend" but he was a magnificent bastard. Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 12:01 PM (HqdCe) 318
Dr. Johnson, who is Black, telling a Mexican employee that “this may take some time for me because I generally distrust Mexican people. Mexican people have the option of being White when it is convenient for them.”
Posted by: SMOD at June 06, 2023 11:50 AM (RHGPo) I'm not prejudiced but from my many years experience of handling claims this is true in the sense that lying is second nature and they will stick to that lie in the face of overwhelming evidence. I attribute it to a survival trait . Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:02 PM (MNhXM) 319
garlic repositories -- I read that as garlic suppositories.
Posted by: Ciampino --- I'm trying to catch up! at June 06, 2023 12:00 PM (qfLjt) ==================== very popular at Oracle Park, home of the San Fran Giants Posted by: Huck Follywood at June 06, 2023 12:03 PM (G7N/s) 320
Yes...the brave prostitutes who gave German officers the clap, and the even braver bakery clerks who sold them stale croissants!
Viva La France! Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM CBD, lotta truth there. Remember the sidewalk cafe scene from The Great Escape with James Coburn. Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2023 12:03 PM (Uv0D2) 321
Those guys had some grit.
Posted by: javems at June 06, 2023 12:03 PM (AmoqO) 322
I'm reading a bio of Eisenhower, and he got along very well with De Gaulle. I'd be extremely skeptical about whoever wrote that bio. NOBODY got along with De Gaulle, not even his own countrymen. But despite his personal arrogance, stubbornness and pig-headed willingness to totally fuck the rest of the Allied cause just to get what he wanted, he was probably the best Frog for the job. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 06, 2023 12:03 PM (n+4am) 323
Mexican people have the option of being White when it is convenient for them
____ I have the option of being black when it's convenient for me!! - Rachel Dolenzal Posted by: Montec at June 06, 2023 12:03 PM (OalnH) Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 12:03 PM (DU+/6) 325
Hey, come on now. We design some things here.
Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 11:59 AM (SfD1B) *white knuckles jaw clench* Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 12:03 PM (HqdCe) 326
Viva La France!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 06, 2023 11:42 AM CBD, lotta truth there. Remember the sidewalk cafe scene from The Great Escape with James Coburn. Posted by: Eromero at June 06, 2023 12:03 PM (Uv0D2) I was just thinking about that. Posted by: NL at June 06, 2023 12:04 PM (eGTCV) 327
I attribute it to a survival trait .
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:02 PM (MNhXM) It's really just immaturity. "Did you just take that cookie?" "No." "I just sat here and watched you take it and eat it." "No you didn't." Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 06, 2023 12:04 PM (9UlRk) 328
"In like manner, the soldier is guiltless who, actuated not by motives of ambition or cruelty, but by the pure desire of serving the interests of his country, takes away the life of an enemy in a just war."
- Catechism of the Council of Trent (The Fifth Commandment) Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 12:04 PM (vg8N1) 329
jim (in Kalifornia) at June 06, 2023 11:32 AM (ynpvh)
Hey, I just looked at is discharge papers. 103rd Field Artillery Regiment. He was a Rhode Islander. Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Tempus belli) at June 06, 2023 12:04 PM (l7Kbv) 330
We invaded Normandy on 6/6/44 and Saipan 9 days later on 6/15/44. We couldn't do either of those operations today. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Couldn't have done either in December 1941. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 06, 2023 12:04 PM (63Dwl) 331
I'm a Churchill fan but he did give away a lot to Stalin without our involvement to be able to keep Greece.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:05 PM (MNhXM) 332
WWI affected... everyone psychologically. It fucked up a hell of a lot. I'd say psychologically, it destroyed more of the british and french will than dunkirk or being beaten by the Nazis.
Posted by: Aetius451AD It killed off the majority of the best and brightest of Britain & France. What WWI didn't kill off, WWII did. Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 12:05 PM (D4vK5) 333
310 A friend of mine has an M-1 manufactured in 1943. It is stamped with the manufacturer: IBM.
I have a Springfield M1 that was issued to the French. It's in great shape. Only thrown down once! Posted by: Tonypete ---------- Those Garand rifles were used by the Free French or do you mean a 1903 Springfield. WWI era 1917 rifles were also issued to the Free French early on as well as some provided to the British during the darkest days of WWII when Britain stood alone. Posted by: whig at June 06, 2023 12:05 PM (g4ryy) 334
My French-American grandmother had great distaste for deGaulle. I can still hear her Gallic snort as she said "Le Grand Nez, bah!"
Posted by: La2la at June 06, 2023 12:05 PM (wfrSv) 335
Couldn't have done either in December 1941.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 06, 2023 12:04 PM (63Dwl) Great point. Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:05 PM (MNhXM) Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at June 06, 2023 12:05 PM (oJm/a) 337
Well ike was a galactic brain and prob hnderstood where DeGaulle was coming from.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 12:05 PM (HqdCe) 338
God bless them all.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 06, 2023 12:05 PM (lu1jT) 339
>>Hey, I just looked at is discharge papers. 103rd Field Artillery Regiment. He was a Rhode Islander.
One of the chosen. Posted by: JackStraw at June 06, 2023 12:06 PM (ZLI7S) 340
I'd be extremely skeptical about whoever wrote that bio. NOBODY got along with De Gaulle, not even his own countrymen. But despite his personal arrogance, stubbornness and pig-headed willingness to totally fuck the rest of the Allied cause just to get what he wanted, he was probably the best Frog for the job.
You answered your own question. Ike was after whatever made his life easier, including who would run France after the liberation. He knew De Gaulle was the only one who could prevent a civil war, and so did De Gaulle. Since their interests aligned, they were able to have a good personal relationship. The book, BTW, is "Eisenhower in War and Peace", by Jean Edward Smith. Read it for yourself. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 12:06 PM (eOEVl) 341
Really bugs me when ANTIFA shows photos of D-Day comparing what they are doing (enabling fascism) to what the GIs did that day.
Posted by: jeff at June 06, 2023 12:06 PM (pvt9V) 342
RLTW!
Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2023 12:07 PM (TpxpJ) 343
Totally missed out the thread
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2023 12:07 PM (KrLBh) 344
254 This busty brunette in a former factory is grateful that she isn't speaking German, Russian or Japanese:
https://is.gd/pXn8eH Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 11:51 AM (DU+/6) Dem hips.... Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy Ammo, food, water at June 06, 2023 12:07 PM (xcxpd) 345
Often overshadowed by the remarkable accomplishments at Normandy on 6/6/44 was the liberation of Rome with initial Allied troops entering on 6/4 and the capital secured on 6/5. My dad was there and had a unique experience:
Posted by: Muldoon at June 06, 2023 Iread.that LTG Clark, after liberating Rome (first invading army in over a thousand years to do so, sat down with the Stars and Stripes, and muttered, "One day, I get one day in the news!" Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2023 12:07 PM (e4fEA) 346
Hmmm, did you all lock the keys to the blog inside the car earlier?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 12:07 PM (zZu0s) 347
288 I remember reading something that there was no monolithic 'French Resistance.'
- After the war every Frenchman had been in the Resistance and no German had been a Nazi. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 11:56 AM (FVME7) ---- Additionally, after the war there were no Communists in the US or British Governments! Yeah right! Posted by: Ciampino - I'm trying to catch up by working from the bottom at June 06, 2023 12:08 PM (qfLjt) 348
Who was more arrogant, De Gaulle or Monty ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:08 PM (MNhXM) 349
331 I'm a Churchill fan but he did give away a lot to Stalin without our involvement to be able to keep Greece.
Posted by: polynikes Not really giving it away as Stalin never had any intention of giving up Eastern Europe. He intended to loot it in order to fix up the Russian economy post war. Essentially, there was no will in the West whatsoever to fight the Russians post war to save the liberties of the Germans or Eastern Europeans. The Russians themselves had to contend with possible nuclear use by the West if they used their vast armies to invade post war until 1949 or so. The demobilization story in the ETO was truly massive operation and done rather quickly as soldiers were anxious by and large to get home. Posted by: whig at June 06, 2023 12:08 PM (g4ryy) 350
Iread.that LTG Clark, after liberating Rome (first invading army in over a thousand years to do so, sat down with the Stars and Stripes, and muttered, "One day, I get one day in the news!"
Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2023 12:07 PM (e4fEA) Fighting in Rome. I don't think anyone wants to do that. You cannot swing a dead cat without hitting some spot of massive historical significance or a beautiful, priceless piece of art. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 12:09 PM (zZu0s) 351
348 Who was more arrogant, De Gaulle or Monty ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:08 PM (MNhXM) Patton. But Degaulle was a statesman and was justifiably arrogant. Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 12:09 PM (HqdCe) 352
348 Who was more arrogant, De Gaulle or Monty ?
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:08 PM (MNhXM) I'd hate to have to live on the difference. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 12:09 PM (zZu0s) 353
Human Rights Campaign declares a national state of emergency for LGBTQ+ people
"LGBTQ+ Americans are living in a state of emergency. ... blah. blah. blah." Posted by: Jay in PA at June 06, 2023 11:30 AM You must have cut out the "Send Money!" part Posted by: Chuck C at June 06, 2023 12:10 PM (xttsV) 354
Very sadly didn't go across the English Channel to see Normandy
Posted by: Skip at June 06, 2023 12:10 PM (KrLBh) 355
Churchill was hung out to dry by FDR.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 06, 2023 12:10 PM (Xrfse) 356
When I was a kid 1968 - 70 thereabouts my father was a business partner with a guy who was one of the Rangers who climbed Pointe du Hoc. He was a big guy about 6'4" and he would laugh telling the story that as he was about 15 ft up a German shot him in the ass knocking him to the beach. He was evacuated. Died a couple of years ago at 95
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 06, 2023 11:31 AM (/xTJs) So vhat you are saying is, I got him? Posted by: 96 year old Fritz at June 06, 2023 12:10 PM (44ww/) 357
355 Churchill was hung out to dry by FDR.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 06, 2023 12:10 PM (Xrfse) Good. Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 12:11 PM (HqdCe) 358
From Another War but Fitting:
In Flanders fields the poppies blow Between the crosses, row on row, That mark our place; and in the sky The larks, still bravely singing, fly Scarce heard amid the guns below. We are the dead. Short days ago We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow, Loved, and were loved, and now we lie In Flanders fields. Thanks to those brave men! Posted by: rhennigantx at June 06, 2023 12:12 PM (BRHaw) 359
Posted by: whig at June 06, 2023 12:08 PM (g4ryy)
Wasn't even an attempt to bluff Stalin by the West. He knew we had more bombs and half our military now freed from the Pacific. Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:12 PM (MNhXM) Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 06, 2023 12:12 PM (Xrfse) 361
Iread.that LTG Clark, after liberating Rome (first invading army in over a thousand years to do so
---- I would argue that the Germans were an invading army so were there before Clark. Posted by: Ciampino - I'm trying to catch up by working from the bottom at June 06, 2023 12:13 PM (qfLjt) Posted by: KT at June 06, 2023 12:13 PM (rrtZS) 363
I actually prefer a pinup girl from the 40's to modern babe in the blue dress. This might not be a picture of Yvonne De Carlo from the 1940's although she was a pinup girl then, but she beats the hell out of selfie queen in the sheer dress from yesterday.
https://tinyurl.com/bprmk2ps Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 06, 2023 12:13 PM (Keyt1) Posted by: Java Joe at June 06, 2023 12:13 PM (VsPm9) 365
Oh jeez, the idiot city of Kalamazoo is trying to pass an ordinance creating a DEI Department.
In better (sort of) news, my Ottawa County decided to ABOLISH their DEI Department ( they should have never had one to begin with). Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 06, 2023 12:13 PM (ufFY8) 366
Patton. But Degaulle was a statesman and was justifiably arrogant.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 12:09 PM (HqdCe I think Patton places third . He seemed arrogant because he was right and no listened to him. Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:14 PM (MNhXM) 367
I actually prefer a pinup girl from the 40's to modern babe in the blue dress. This might not be a picture of Yvonne De Carlo from the 1940's although she was a pinup girl then, but she beats the hell out of selfie queen in the sheer dress from yesterday.
Yowza. Them's some serious eyebrows. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 12:15 PM (eOEVl) 368
In what way?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 06, 2023 12:12 PM (Xrfse) Every way. Churchill was a maniac and destroyed all he touched. Perhaps even inadvertently. He was an enemy of the US. Unlike DeGaulle and Franco and Salazar etc etc etc. Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 12:15 PM (HqdCe) 369
I was honored to give a eulogy for a friend that died 10 years ago at 95 years old. He worked on the development of the B-29 from about 1939-40 until it was launched into the Pacific theater at the end of the war.
His biggest regret was not ever leaving the US to fight. All 8200 WWII B29 pilot/co-pilots tandems went through his training routine though. Posted by: DanMan at June 06, 2023 12:15 PM (DB6tu) 370
I would argue that the Germans were an invading army so were there before Clar
Posted by: Ciampino - I'm trying to catch up by working from the bottom at June 06, 2023 12:13 PM (qfLjt) Arguable. Italians were german allies at the start. Invited in. Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2023 12:16 PM (e4fEA) 371
We didn't need the Russians to win, we would have taken Germany by ourselves. They should have simply been told they could protect their pre war borders, and stop there. The biggest mistake the made was to not only bring them in, but allow them to cross into Germany and Eastern Europe. That mistake came at the cost of the entire Cold War/post war period that allowed Russia to subjugate large parts of the continent, and grow a nuclear capability that threatened the world. That's not just hindsight, it was being preached by a lot of people during that time who knew it was a deal with the devil. But the politicians didn't care. They never do.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2023 12:16 PM (TpxpJ) 372
356 When I was a kid 1968 - 70 thereabouts my father was a business partner with a guy who was one of the Rangers who climbed Pointe du Hoc. He was a big guy about 6'4" and he would laugh telling the story that as he was about 15 ft up a German shot him in the ass knocking him to the beach. He was evacuated. Died a couple of years ago at 95
Posted by: Smell the Glove at June 06, 2023 11:31 AM (/xTJs) ---- I imagine, considering the angles, that most common bullet wounds would have been the head, shoulders and buttocks. I'm ignoring lower extremities. Posted by: Ciampino -- I'm trying to catch up by working from the bottom at June 06, 2023 12:16 PM (qfLjt) 373
Preach it brother CBD!!
Posted by: Mark in South Jordan Utah at June 06, 2023 12:17 PM (u36/O) 374
Wasn't even an attempt to bluff Stalin by the West. He knew we had more bombs and half our military now freed from the Pacific.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:12 PM Out of curiosity, do we start the march against the USSR on VE day plus one? Do we keep all of our troops in Europe instead of starting to shift them for the invasion of Japan? At what point after we knew the A-bomb would work do we attack Stalin? How does that press conference go for Truman? Posted by: Chuck C at June 06, 2023 12:17 PM (xttsV) 375
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I think Patton places third . He seemed arrogant because he was right and no listened to him.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:14 PM (MNhXM) If ike and ike's guys ignore you, then you need to clock some serious mirror time. Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 12:17 PM (HqdCe) 377
@367
>>Yowza. Them's some serious eyebrows. Or alternatively... Tell me your younger than 29 without telling me you are younger than 29. Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 06, 2023 12:18 PM (rc3Z7) 378
RIP Uncle Leo
101st Airborne 501st PIR Company C KIA 6/6/44 Posted by: Java Joe RIP Uncle Leo. Thank you for your service and sacrifice. --A Grateful American Posted by: rickb223 at June 06, 2023 12:18 PM (D4vK5) 379
Every way. Churchill was a maniac and destroyed all he touched. Perhaps even inadvertently.
He was an enemy of the US. Unlike DeGaulle and Franco and Salazar etc etc etc. Wow. Just wow. Heh. Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 06, 2023 12:19 PM (Xrfse) 380
368
'Churchill was a maniac and destroyed all he touched. ' Posted by: Goodbye Credibility! at June 06, 2023 12:19 PM (yvHe0) 381
Horrifying hate crime against Elliot Paige that, like, totally happened!
Page, 36, was standing on a corner in West Hollywood on his way to the Pink Dot convenience store when the enraged and hateful stranger approached him, shouting obscenities, according to the Los Angeles Times. “I’m going to f–king gay bash you, fa—t,” the man yelled, forcing the actor to bolt toward the store in fear. Employees at the Pink Dot escorted a terrified Page into the shop, but the man allegedly followed him and stood at the store’s doorway. “This is why I need a gun,” the maniac reportedly yelled at Page through the glass door. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 12:19 PM (FVME7) 382
Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2023 12:16 PM (TpxpJ)
That they attacked Poland basically at the same time as Hitler per agreement and were basically rewarded for it after the war is a travesty that as you said caused more damage that was imagined by many. Including Patton. Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:20 PM (MNhXM) 383
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 06, 2023 12:20 PM (Zz0t1) 384
Nicely done, Dildo. Well said.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 06, 2023 12:20 PM (Zz0t1) 385
“This is why I need a gun,” the maniac reportedly yelled at Page through the glass door.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks" And then he ran away yelling "THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY!" Posted by: Electric Bear Charger at June 06, 2023 12:21 PM (iayUP) 386
385 “This is why I need a gun,” the maniac reportedly yelled at Page through the glass door.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks" And then he ran away yelling "THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY!" Posted by: Electric Bear Charger at June 06, 2023 12:21 PM (iayUP) Is Subway and a noose involved somehow? Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 12:21 PM (zZu0s) 387
May those brave men not have died in vain, nor spin currently in their graves for the state of this country and the world.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 06, 2023 12:21 PM (Zz0t1) 388
This is why I need a gun,” the maniac reportedly yelled at Page through the glass door.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks" And then he ran away yelling "THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY!" Posted by: Electric Bear Charger at June 06, 2023 12:21 PM (iayUP) And dropped his Pickleball Club sammich from Subway. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 06, 2023 12:22 PM (ufFY8) 389
We didn't need the Russians to win, we would have taken Germany by ourselves. They should have simply been told they could protect their pre war borders, and stop there. The biggest mistake the made was to not only bring them in, but allow them to cross into Germany and Eastern Europe. That mistake came at the cost of the entire Cold War/post war period that allowed Russia to subjugate large parts of the continent, and grow a nuclear capability that threatened the world. That's not just hindsight, it was being preached by a lot of people during that time who knew it was a deal with the devil. But the politicians didn't care. They never do.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2023 12:16 PM (TpxpJ) ---------- Agreed, Marcus. Would have been interesting if Patton had been the Supreme Commander instead of Ike. Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 06, 2023 12:22 PM (sJSOG) 390
I’m going to f–king gay bash you, fa—t"
-- Interestingly, that's a phrase I've only ever heard gay people use. Whoops! Whoopsies! Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 12:22 PM (SfD1B) 391
This is why I need a gun,” the maniac reportedly yelled at Page through the glass door.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks" And then he ran away yelling "THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY!" Posted by: Electric Bear Charger at June 06, 2023 12:21 PM (iayUP) And dropped his Pickleball Club sammich from Subway. Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 06, 2023 12:22 PM (ufFY -------- But held on to the Tiki Torch. Posted by: ShainS -- Oppression Scientist and Your AI Interpreter at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (sJSOG) 392
Nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (zZu0s) 393
Anyone really think Patton would have screwed up Market Garden the way Monty did?
Also, with the disparate interests and egos involved, I think Eisenhower did a remarkable job. Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (2YtOq) 394
There was an old friend of the family who was pure Italian and he once said at a dinner that his biggest regret was twlling the recruiter that he refused yo fight in Italy against Italians. This got him sent to the Pacific as a marine.
Idk if it worked like that and he was hammered but it was very funny. His wife was like ugh eye roll. Posted by: Thesokorus at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (HqdCe) 395
370 I would argue that the Germans were an invading army so were there before Clar
Posted by: Ciampino - I'm trying to catch up by working from the bottom at June 06, 2023 12:13 PM (qfLjt) Arguable. Italians were german allies at the start. Invited in. Posted by: Diogenes at June 06, 2023 12:16 PM (e4fEA) ---- I think they invited themselves in. Then once Mussolini was killed and the Fascists collapsed, the Germans became active enemies, taking able-bodied Italian men to Germany - shanghaied. My Dad, with Mum and Big Sister (all of 18 months or so), went into hiding in the convent in Rocca di Papa just outside Rome (there's a shot of it in one of the Pink Panther movies) to avoid getting caught. Posted by: Ciampino --- I'm trying to catch up by working from the bottom at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (qfLjt) 396
Yowza. Them's some serious eyebrows.
Or alternatively... Tell me your younger than 29 without telling me you are younger than 29. Would that it were so. Regardless, I like a good brow. Posted by: Archimedes at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (eOEVl) 397
"I'm going to gay bash you" said literally no one ever....
"I'm gonna be so not an ally!" "I'm gonna use the wrong pronouns on you sooooo hard!" "I'm gonna hatecrime you into the middle of next week!" Fucking come on with this shit. "This Is Meatball Country!!!!" Posted by: Warai-otoko at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (9UlRk) 398
NOOD CNN
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (DU+/6) 399
Wait, Elliot Page is a dude now. Why didn't he defend himself against the other man?
Posted by: Join Moron Robbie in Celebrating Groomer Awareness Month! at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (SfD1B) 400
"That they attacked Poland basically at the same time as Hitler per agreement and were basically rewarded for it after the war is a travesty that as you said caused more damage that was imagined by many. Including Patton.
Posted by: polynikes at June 06, 2023 12:20 PM (MNhXM)" Which is another point at which I move away from Ike and FDR. I also believe, as some in the U.S. command did during that time, that the British campaign to essentially bomb the civilian population of Germany in order to "break their will", was an atrocity that took a lot of the moral high ground from underneath us. Posted by: Marcus T at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (TpxpJ) Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (vg8N1) 402
/sock
Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (44ww/) 403
Nood - CNN.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 06, 2023 12:23 PM (Wnv9h) 404
We would have won without Russia, but there would have been maybe a million American dead. The Russians did the lion's share of getting offed.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 06, 2023 12:24 PM (pohLc) 405
They loved taking billions in covid money.. but now they met a government program that's 'unconstituional'
Merck (NYSE:MRK) is suing the US Government over the Inflation Reduction Act, alleging that the legislation's provision that allows for agencies to negotiate lower drug prices for government programs such as Medicare is unconstitutional. Posted by: McCool at June 06, 2023 12:25 PM (BqBIh) 406
New York City just introduced crack pipe vending machines. Really.
- Well, you know how it is. You leave home in a hurry and leave your crack pipe on the dresser. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at June 06, 2023 12:25 PM (FVME7) 407
We do have a sort of 29-aged aura about Churchill.
He was unpopular with many Americans. He resolutely believed the British empire would be returned to the status quo ante, and it may be hard for some to comprehend what a threat Americans from those generations saw the British empire as being. One whole perspective has dropped out of the conversation. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at June 06, 2023 12:28 PM (jYCXf) 408
Fighting in Rome. I don't think anyone wants to do that. You cannot swing a dead cat without hitting some spot of massive historical significance or a beautiful, priceless piece of art.
Posted by: Aetius451AD ****** Rome was largely unscathed. My dad continued his June 5 entry: Rome is not badly bombed. Only the railroad yards show any amount of bombing. Our troops are moving well out with little opposition. All troops are advancing straight up the axis on rather narrow division fronts. The Air Corps is still raising Cain in the rear areas. Gerry seems very confused and disorganized. Posted by: Muldoon at June 06, 2023 12:30 PM (991eG) 409
Remembering my friend, Cpt. Ethel Guffey Simpson, D-Day Hero and nurse who stayed with our men until they left this world with words of comfort, prayer and encouragement. Miss you, Sweet Ethel! 1915-2015 You almost made it to the second hundred!
Posted by: DefendUSA at June 06, 2023 12:31 PM (QwnRn) 410
Prior to Pearl many in the right-wing of both parties admired Hitler. American banks financed the rebuilding rearming of Germany.
Conservatives seem to not want THAT history either remembered or taught. Standard oil tankers shipped venezuelan oil to fascist Spain (trans shipped to Germany throughout the ear unmolested by German u boats. Ford Motor Werks factories supplying trucks to German army were not bombed until April of 1945 Ford built B 27s weren't allowed to bomb Ford factories in zhetmsny or France War maybe be hell, but business is business and capital must be preserved Posted by: Psul at June 06, 2023 12:32 PM (4dezU) 411
Conservatives seem to not want THAT history either remembered or taught.
It was taught when I was in school.. Posted by: MAC V SOG at June 06, 2023 12:51 PM (P4Pk9) 412
364 RIP Uncle Leo
101st Airborne 501st PIR Company C KIA 6/6/44 Posted by: Java Joe at June 06, 2023 12:13 PM (VsPm9) Blessings on him and you, both. Posted by: m at June 06, 2023 03:35 PM (SpRPx) 413
I'd love to take the fight to them, if I only had one of those daggers the Rangers had at Pointe du Hoc, I'd make good use of it.
Posted by: Jewish Odysseus at June 06, 2023 03:41 PM (bvp+i) 414
A few years ago (2020) I toured the Normandy Battlefield and Pointe du Hoc. Our guide explained the fighting went on for two days there and the Rangers suffered 70% casualties. A tourist asked what the casualty rate for the Germans was. She responded with a hmmpf and upraised nose "The Germans 100%". We all appreciated her answer
Posted by: Alfred at June 06, 2023 03:58 PM (b6c/x) 415
I doubt America as a nation equals the America that existed in 1944. Americans in that era knew men could not get pregnant; would hang drag queens who tried to read to little children; would have laughed and lynched a Jessie Smollett; recognized a race hustler like Al Sharpton or Obama; and never have tolerated a commie like Schumer or Pelosi.
Posted by: Jane at June 06, 2023 04:29 PM (EcD5Y) 416
Couple of items.
It was presumed the invasion of Japan would cost the US 250,000kia with the usual multiple of wounded. The goal was complete subjugation, letting these people run their own affairs--like Germany after Versailles--was a bad idea. See WW II. So it wouldn't be merely an invasion of a week or two, but go on forever. It said, when I was in--69-71--that we were using stocks of Purple Hearts ordered in anticipation of the invasion of Japan. Heard recently they'd just run out. Not sure if it is true but the math works out. My father was an Infantry platoon leader and occasional company commander until they could find another captain, in Europe. 104th ID Timberwolves. By the time I was fourteen, I was an expert on combined arms tactics on a front three hundred miles long and three hundred yards wide. Heard about his baggage only obliquely from my mother. Talked with an el ed teacher recently. Said we won WW II every third recess; drew pictures of guns and tanks and whatnot in our notebooks. She grinned and said today the shrinks would be all over us. Yes the Japanese were starving but the last people to miss a meal were the guys deciding to keep fighting. Posted by: Richard Aubrey at June 06, 2023 10:58 PM (dSnnl) 417
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