Sy Hirsh: Zelensky Embezzled $400 Million of US Taxpayer Funding for Personal Use

Sy Hirsh also now claims that Zelensky embezzled over $400 million in US aid. He claims that Zelensky claimed he was buying oil on the open market, but actually bought it from Russia. Russia's oil prices are low because they're locked out of the open market and selling at a discount.

Then, the claim goes, Zelensky pocketed the difference between the price he claimed he paid and the price he actually paid. Which was $400 million.

In his latest Substack article, Hersh delved into the rampant corruption allegedly taking place among Ukraine's political elite, suggesting the situation is worse than most people think.
He explained that according to one source in the American intelligence community, Zelensky has been purchasing "discount diesel" from Russia with American money, and stashing the leftover funds.
"The Ukrainian president and many in his entourage have been skimming untold millions from the American dollars earmarked for diesel fuel payments," Hersh wrote. Analysts at the Central Intelligence Agency, he continued, put the number at "$400 million last year, at least," while another expert likened the level of corruption in Ukraine to that of the war in Afghanistan. During that conflict, the US was paying up to $400 per gallon to move fuel from foreign ports into the nation. It has not been revealed how much is being paid for diesel in Ukraine.
As Hersh pointed out, CIA Director William Burns confronted Zelensky on the issue of corruption during a meeting in January, telling the Ukranian president that other officials were mad at him for "taking a larger share of the skim money than was going to the generals."
Burns provided Zelensky with a list of high-ranking Ukrainian officials known by the CIA as corrupt, and he responded by firing ten who had been "brazenly bragging about the money they had."

Is this true? No idea.

Snopes is pretty sure, though. Imposing a standard they never, ever imposed on the media and Hillary Clinton Campaign's risible claims about RUSSIAN COLLUSION, they now say that Hirsh has "no evidence" for his claim, with the implication that it should therefore be treated as false.

Oh, and they also say that these charges are "promoted" by Russian media, so that's another reason you should just assume this is MOAR RUSSIAN COLLUSION.

On April 12, 2023, journalist Seymour Hersh published an article on Substack titled "Trading with the Enemy." Its central allegation, heavily promoted by Russian state media and conspiracy websites like Infowars, was that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy had embezzled at least $400 million of U.S. aid money by using it to purchase discount fuel from Russia and pocket the difference[.]

Snopes said you shouldn't believe his previous reporting about the Nord Pipeline, either, because Hirsh uses -- brace yourself for this, people; the cringe is going to knock your heads back -- "anonymous sources."

The living lifeblood of leftwing partisan attack journalism, Snopes now declared is a reason to dismiss a report when it contradicts the Official State Propaganda line.

As Snopes explained in a story discussing those claims, Hersh's later career has been controversial and widely panned by journalists for promoting conspiratorial claims that hinge on dubious anonymous sources or speculation. This later work is often sympathetic to Russian talking points, and his work is widely covered there.
Hersh's present claim fits plainly within that genre. Characteristically, it has been promoted by Russian media. Hours after publishing his piece, the Russian news agency TASS promoted Hersh's claims[.]

Meanwhile, Michale Shellenberger reports that FaceBook Is now censoring the Sy Hirsh investigative piece that claimed, based on an unnamed highly-placed source, that the US blew up the Nord Stream pipelines. Which, by the way, Victoria Nuland virtually admitted to Congress. She bragged about it with an unmistakable whiff of Pride of Authorship and dirty vag but mostly Pride of Authorship.

But FaceBook has decided they're so good at Censorship they should do more of it:

pic.twitter.com/bL4pPcj6TU
— Michael Shellenberger (@shellenberger) April 19, 2023

The American people have given Facebook broad liability protections under Section 230 that other media companies don't get.

And yet Facebook is acting like a media company, not a platform.

Why, then, is it getting Section 230 protection?https://t.co/LSymOnibss
— Michael Shellenberger (@shellenberger) April 19, 2023

Here's the article by Seymour Hirsh, alleging the US blew up the Nord Stream piplelines, which the propaganda media company FaceBook is censoring.

This is the same FaceBook that censored the Hunter Biden laptop story to "fortify" the 2020 election.

This is the same FaceBook that censored all talk of the lab leak, or the "leakiness" of the "vaccine," or the proven injuries caused by the vaccine, or anything that undermined the official State Media diktats on covid.

And rather than being ashamed of their disgusting performance as the Secret Information Police of the corrupt Deep State, they've decided that they did such a good job of declaring, with all Oligarchical Supremacy, that which is True, and that which is RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION.

It's time to strip section 230 from all big media companies. I know that they cannot function without some verson of s.230 protection, and that this will drive them bankrupt.

Ask me how much I f***ing care.

Bankrupt them. Seize their fucking estates.

I'm in a fucking communist revolution state of mind. I've had it. If they won't stop using their billions to interfere with elections, then I'm afraid we're going to have to take away their billions.

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

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Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2023 12:01 PM (H8LpJ)

2 Not First!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at April 20, 2023 12:01 PM (wtvvX)

3 When the history of these times is written, centuries from now, one of the great mysteries is going to be why people gave "Snopes" any credibility in the first place.

It's just some internet rando and his stripper girlfriends.

They have no credentials of any kind, other than being communists.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 12:02 PM (bW8dp)

4 Why, then, is it getting Section 230 protection?
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Is this a trick question?

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 12:03 PM (WoOWE)

5 Then, the claim goes, Zelensky pocketed the difference between the price he claimed he paid and the price he actually paid. Which was $400 million.

If he did, it was because Biden got 10% off the top.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 12:03 PM (OzJjC)

6 No surprise. With the Bidens and a host of other well-to-do connected Dems' childrens' fingers in that pie, it makes sense there'd be massive corruption.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (ynpvh)

7 Good Morning Ace.

Of course Zelensky is corrupt. That's why the US made sure he is in office there.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (Y+l9t)

8 Oh, that? Huh. I wonder if it's related to this?

"The Biden family profited from a human trafficking scheme that included a prostitution ring in the United States and other countries including Russia and Ukraine, said two Republicans on the House Oversight Committee who viewed Treasury Department Suspicious Activity Reports (SARs)."

https://tinyurl.com/2d2asnx6

Posted by: Without Ashli Babbitt shot it's just people walking respectfully between velvet ropes at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (yYzFo)

9 How much did Joe get??

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (BRHaw)

10 You Can't Handle The Truth!!!

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (+coCW)

11 When the history of these times is written, centuries from now, one of the great mysteries is going to be why people gave "Snopes" any credibility in the first place.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Because they got to the urban legend/ internet rumor space first. That's pretty much it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (jzzG8)

12 PDT believes the Junta blew up the pipeline.

I'd be surprised if Zelensky only pocketed 400 million in taxpayer cash.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (2YtOq)

13 Kinda digging this hash rn

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (WoOWE)

14 Damn, I'll bet all those who set their hair on fire over the pipeline story are just starting to grow it back, and now they'll just have to settle for a smaller fire.

Seriously, how many times does this guy have to burn people for them to stop falling for it?

It's time to strip section 230 from all big media companies. I know that they cannot function without some verson of s.230 protection, and that this will drive them bankrupt.

Amen, brother. Prepare the volcanoes!

Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (eOEVl)

15 I have no idea if Hersh's claim is true or not but I have zero doubt that Zelensky and many others on both sides of these transactions is getting paid.

If Biden wasn't making money on this it would be the first time in his sleazy career of "public service" he wasn't.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (ZLI7S)

16 Sy Hirsh also now claims that Zelensky embezzled over $400 million in US aid. He claims that Zelensky claimed he was buying oil on the open market, but actually bought it from Russia. Russia's oil prices are low because they're locked out of the open market and selling at a discount.

Then, the claim goes, Zelensky pocketed the difference between the price he claimed he paid and the price he actually paid. Which was $400 million.
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Classic.

It's Sy Hersh, and he doesn't have a good track record, but it would surprise me not at all if this is true.

Also, Z-man needs to up his game. Of the approximately $100 billion in money and supplies we've dumped on Ukraine, $400 million is a mere 0.4%. He has a long way to go to hit "Big Guy" status.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (t0OGg)

17 As long as I knew Hunter was in cahoots with the Ukrainians it was obvious it wS a organized crime count. And sure all the tax money sent there was being pocketed by officials and Generals.

Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (H8LpJ)

18 Angry Ace is the best Ace... I'm pissed too

Posted by: It's me donna at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (bs+z0)

19 >>Sy Hirsh: Zelensky Embezzled $400 Million of US Taxpayer Funding for Personal Use

Nothing is more important than getting funding into Zelensky's bank account, err, the war effort in Ukraine to continue killing the Russians.

--
Mitch "Dribbles" McConnell

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (kR67p)

20 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (T4tVD)

21 Hersch shoots from the lip and is frequently wrong. He's the Jim Hoft of print media. However...Zelensky skimming seems almost a sure bet. And I'd wager there are far more snouts than just his at that particular trough too.

Posted by: He's a loon but it doesn't mean he's wrong this time at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (GjRvg)

22 Is anyone surprised?

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (DRSnL)

23 > With the Bidens and a host of other well-to-do connected Dems' childrens' fingers in that pie,

Don't forget Mutt Romney's kid.

Or were you counting him as a Democrat? Understandable, if so.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (bW8dp)

24 Go russkies..or at least drone that mfr

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 20, 2023 12:06 PM (/6GbT)

25 I'm just going to put this out their: I disavow anything the current regime purports to do in my name.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at April 20, 2023 12:06 PM (2YtOq)

26 IF YOU CAN'T TRUST A CELBERITY LEADER OF A CORRUPT COUNTRY, JUST WHO CAN YOU TRUST ANYMORE!?!?!

What's next? Is Chicago going to become some vote-stealing hell-hole?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 20, 2023 12:06 PM (N1tpc)

27 Willowed.

R.I.P Buzzfeed, LOL just kidding LOOOOOOL, Buzzfeed is shutting down
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

Adding insult to injury.

Fusilli Spock
@awstar11
No journalists were impacted

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 20, 2023 12:06 PM (FVME7)

28 Kinda digging this hash rn
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (WoOWE)

I ain't gonna lie, I'm jealous.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 20, 2023 12:06 PM (DRSnL)

29 Angry Ace is the best Ace... I'm pissed too
Posted by: It's me donna

You're beautiful when you're angry.....

Posted by: JT at April 20, 2023 12:07 PM (T4tVD)

30 FB is firing people left and right and restructuring. Their billions are melting away. They have a choice , be a government propagandist, or be a business.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2023 12:07 PM (xNg0H)

31 I dunno. Hersch should be able to publish what he wants. In fact, that actually invites more examination of the facts. But that said, it seems to me a lot of what Hersch writes is not just anonymously sourced, but poorly sourced. To the degree where it feels like he's made some of it up whole cloth. And based on his I'm slightly skeptical of his motives.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2023 12:07 PM (8Voqu)

32 wow. So surprised.

In other news, Bongino is leaving Fox.

Posted by: fd at April 20, 2023 12:07 PM (iayUP)

33 Sy Hirsh: Zelensky Embezzled $400 Million of US Taxpayer Funding for Personal Use

Nothing is more important than getting funding into Zelensky's bank account, err, the war effort in Ukraine to continue killing the Russians.

--
Mitch "Dribbles" McConnell
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (kR67p)
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And just how many American soldiers are on the ground today in that shithole country? I'm betting its into four digits by now.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 12:07 PM (anj39)

34 Sy Hersh and RFK, Jr.

Biden Derangement Syndrome is real.

Posted by: Rob Crawford at April 20, 2023 12:07 PM (UJJWg)

35 Buzzfeed is closing down, ending as a company. That's some good news we can all use.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2023 12:08 PM (0hOvj)

36 Welp, it's over for Buzzfeed. Shame really.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2023 12:08 PM (8Voqu)

37 Oh, and they also say that these charges are "promoted" by Russian media, so that's another reason you should just assume this is MOAR RUSSIAN COLLUSION.
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Of course they are. *Everything* bad or embarrassing is Russian Collusion.

If it's true, though, it makes me doubt the "Ukraine is on the cusp of victory" stuff even more. Russia needs the money, but *no* country would sell vital commodities to a directly-engaged enemy combatant if that enemy combatant was cleaning its clock.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:08 PM (t0OGg)

38 FB is firing people left and right and restructuring. Their billions are melting away. They have a choice , be a government propagandist, or be a business.

Turns out that Meta was NOT a good bet. Who knew?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 12:08 PM (eOEVl)

39 How is Snopes even still a thing?
I thought they would have succumbed to diabetes and heart disease by now.

Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:08 PM (wb1YC)

40 Those bitchin' green sweaters ain't cheap, you know.

Posted by: huerfano at April 20, 2023 12:09 PM (dTFZY)

41 This fits in well, with the previous post on "tipping".

10% for the Big Guy?

Why, you lousy, low down, penny pinching, parsimonious sonofabitches!

Shoulda been at least 15%, dontchaknow! Four hundred and seventy five million, you pikers!

/grift /rant /mediteranian retirement villa

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at April 20, 2023 12:09 PM (e6UQI)

42 Only Sy's closest friends get to call him 'Sy.' I tried it once, and I'll never make that mistake again.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:09 PM (MvF+J)

43 Sy Hersh as a reliable source? What next, are we going back to Dick Morris?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at April 20, 2023 12:09 PM (ZSK0i)

44 Sundowner himself basically said it was a crime syndicate when he on camera threatening them if they didn't do what he wanted when he was VP.

Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2023 12:09 PM (H8LpJ)

45 Bankrupt them. Seize their fucking estates.

I'm in a fucking communist revolution state of mind. I've had it. If they won't stop using their billions to interfere with elections, then I'm afraid we're going to have to take away their billions.

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That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. They will take our pensions, 401Ks, retirement plans and use the IRS to hound us into debtor's prison.

But not one thin dime of theirs will be forfeit.

Not one.

Posted by: Just Lily at April 20, 2023 12:09 PM (iocN7)

46 If Zelensky hasn't stolen a few billion from what we gave him with no over site, then he's an idiot.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 20, 2023 12:09 PM (+coCW)

47 The living lifeblood of leftwing partisan attack journalism, Snopes now declared is a reason to dismiss a report when it contradicts the Official State Propaganda line.
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Of course. All state-approved or state-propaganda is trustworthy. Nothing else is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:09 PM (t0OGg)

48 I'm in a fucking communist revolution state of mind. I've had it. If they won't stop using their billions to interfere with elections, then I'm afraid we're going to have to take away their billions.

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

I'll go get my torches and pitchforks. Whose estate should we start with?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at April 20, 2023 12:10 PM (N1tpc)

49 Sy Hersh as a reliable source? What next, are we going back to Dick Morris?

Tanned, rested, and wrinkled.

Posted by: Dan Rather at April 20, 2023 12:10 PM (eOEVl)

50 The more they deny it, the more certain I become that we blew up the pipeline.

Also, "She bragged about it with an unmistakable whiff of Pride of Authorship and dirty vag but mostly Pride of Authorship."

Nice to see the return of the but mostly.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 12:10 PM (yylCO)

51 Say what you want about RFK Jr. but I haven't heard a single person factually and materially debate what he actually stated. Mostly because he's right.

Posted by: Marcus T at April 20, 2023 12:10 PM (8Voqu)

52 Breaking news: Blog mensch Brian Stelter has no idea why he was fired from CNN.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2023 12:10 PM (a3Q+t)

53 The more they deny it, the more certain I become that we blew up the pipeline.

Especially since the first reaction was "yeah we did it" then they started backpedaling.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2023 12:11 PM (0hOvj)

54 Harsh might not be the most reliable source but Snopes is the last source that should be trusted on anything.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)

55 @33

>>And just how many American soldiers are on the ground today in that shithole country? I'm betting its into four digits by now.

There is a least a company's worth of special operators, logistics and maintenance personnel on the ground assisting the undeclared War Effort.

The one thing I didn't see coming was The Junta Going Dr. Strange Love.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 20, 2023 12:11 PM (kR67p)

56 Hey man, I didn't wear that dress for free!

Posted by: The Zee Man at April 20, 2023 12:11 PM (EQmpy)

57 If Zelensky hasn't stolen a few billion from what we gave him with no over site, then he's an idiot.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 20, 2023 12:09 PM (+coCW)

And if he doesn't pay that 10% to Biden, he's a bigger idiot.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 12:11 PM (anj39)

58 Graft aside, if Ukraine was buying oil from the Russians on the cheap that's a smart move for them.

The oil sanctions are primarily driven by Western interest in jacking up oil and energy prices, not by any realistic expectation that they'll seriously interfere with the Russian war effort. The component/tech sanctions are the ones with teeth.

Now, if they're actually funneling most of the difference into their pockets instead of using it to snap up war materiel, well, that'd be fucking retarded.

Posted by: somedood at April 20, 2023 12:11 PM (f6UzA)

59 Next you're going to tell me Facebook is a deep state tool, right?

Posted by: mr tmz at April 20, 2023 12:11 PM (rJ48h)

60 It's time to strip section 230 from all big media companies. I know that they cannot function without some verson of s.230 protection, and that this will drive them bankrupt.

Ask me how much I f***ing care.

Bankrupt them. Seize their fucking estates.
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I will ask the same rhetorical question I always ask: "Where is the FTC?"

Google. Facebook. Twitter. TikTok. All of these are monopolies and some of them - Google - are multi-monopolies. All of them also act as a cartel in areas of overlapping interest (and you can add in Microsoft and Amazon to the cartel list). They *all* need to be broken up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:12 PM (t0OGg)

61 She bragged about it with an unmistakable whiff of Pride of Authorship and dirty vag but mostly Pride of Authorship.
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I thought it was in about equal amounts of both, but that's not important right now. How about at least bringing Tory Neuland in front of Jordan's committee where he can extract some lies out of her under oath for the entertainment value?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 20, 2023 12:12 PM (fs1hN)

62 Don't forget 10% for the big guy. Zelenski.

Friend of mine said to me the other day after buying a growler of beer at the local brewery
"This is a complete 180° turn in life. I have so much pot laying around I don't care about it anymore yet here I am shocked at the price of beer by the ounce."

Posted by: Reforger at April 20, 2023 12:12 PM (ZdOyb)

63
"I'm in a fucking communist revolution state of mind."

An American Revolution 2.0 state of mind will probably do.

Posted by: Speller at April 20, 2023 12:12 PM (pSotA)

64 Sy Hersh as a reliable source? What next, are we going back to Dick Morris?

Tanned, rested, and wrinkled.
Posted by: Dan Rather at April 20, 2023 12:10 PM

Don't forget me.

Posted by: Jen Psaki at April 20, 2023 12:12 PM (a3Q+t)

65 Sy Hirsh also now claims that Zelensky embezzled over $400 million in US aid.

You know how I know this is not true? Because Z embezzled way, WAY more than that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2023 12:12 PM (0hOvj)

66
Seymour Hersh is a commie rat bastard who hates you, so sure, credible source.

Posted by: Auspex at April 20, 2023 12:12 PM (j4U/Z)

67 I have to disagree, ace.

If I must sacrifice my only progeny and end my bloodline with me to protect multinational billionaire chip manufacturers in Taiwan, then so be it.

I don't care if it kills or maims every single one of your grandchildren or children, this is America, and America doesn't back down.

Once more unto the breach, dear morons, once more, Or close the wall up with our American dead. If we must die for the central bankers, let them say of us in the generations that come, 'he lay down his life that the global reserve currency might live'. The American hegemony is dead. Long live the globalist hegemony.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 20, 2023 12:13 PM (kUWxk)

68 I think Snopes fits squarely in the, "do not drive links to them" category.

Archive link for those interested:
https://archive.is/YuYBj

12 I'd be surprised if Zelensky only pocketed 400 million in taxpayer cash.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (2YtOq)

That was my immediately reaction, too.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at April 20, 2023 12:13 PM (DTX3h)

69 13 Kinda digging this hash rn
Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 12:04 PM (WoOWE)

That's HQ Hall of Fame worthy...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at April 20, 2023 12:13 PM (CCSxw)

70
Who to believe. The corrupt Slav PenisPiano virtuoso or the longtime commie cocksucker journalist who has a history of lying through his ass even more so than Lillian Hellman (I've heard that he uses the words "and" and "the" in his articles).

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 20, 2023 12:13 PM (n+4am)

71 How is Snopes even still a thing?
I thought they would have succumbed to diabetes and heart disease by now.
Posted by: Azathoth

Isn't Mrs. Snopes banging the pool boy?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 12:13 PM (OzJjC)

72 I made a pitchfork with a 6 foot handle just in case any special event occurs

Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2023 12:13 PM (H8LpJ)

73 I'd dismiss Hersh out of hand were it not for the corruption currently masquerading as the government of the US.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at April 20, 2023 12:13 PM (2YtOq)

74 I call bullshit on the 400 million.

It's probably 3 or 4 times that.

Rootin For Putin!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 20, 2023 12:13 PM (d4xYr)

75 So, $40M for the Big Guy.

That's a lot of ice cream cones for Senile Joe.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 20, 2023 12:14 PM (xiGIe)

76 >>And just how many American soldiers are on the ground today in that shithole country? I'm betting its into four digits by now.

There is a least a company's worth of special operators, logistics and maintenance personnel on the ground assisting the undeclared War Effort.

The one thing I didn't see coming was The Junta Going Dr. Strange Love.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 20, 2023 12:11 PM (kR67p)
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Plus troops to deploy and "train" the newly deployed Patriot Battalion.
Plus "advisors" to train on the artillery...and armor...and all the other bullshit we need to collect for the Guys stacked up in Poland.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 12:14 PM (anj39)

77 If it's true, though, it makes me doubt the "Ukraine is on the cusp of victory" stuff even more. Russia needs the money, but *no* country would sell vital commodities to a directly-engaged enemy combatant if that enemy combatant was cleaning its clock.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:08 PM (t0OGg)
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That does seem strategically stupid on Russia's part. "What, you need oil to continue to wage war against us? Here, have some of ours!"

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 20, 2023 12:14 PM (YIVH2)

78 Next you're going to tell me Facebook is a deep state tool, right?
Posted by: mr tmz at April 20, 2023 12:11 PM

No, we're too young to be that cynical.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 20, 2023 12:14 PM (a3Q+t)

79 Turns out that Meta was NOT a good bet. Who knew?

Yeah going all in on VR which about 3% of the population likes... not a great plan, to quote Tony Stark. Seriously, anyone but an alien-designed android would recognize that in an instant. Whatta maroon.

And he's STILL pushing Meta.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2023 12:14 PM (0hOvj)

80 I think this now counts as a crime as shown by the Tampa DOJ case against those black kooks. and Mackey in SDNY.

using any foreign info to "influence" an election is bad, mmm kay

Posted by: sockamster, gator at April 20, 2023 12:14 PM (7uiTk)

81 21 Hersch shoots from the lip and is frequently wrong.
Posted by: He's a loon
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Now add in the crypto crash of SBF and how Ukraine govt put money into that sinkhold and then money was channelled to GOP and Dem politicians in the House and Senate.

In the case of Hersh, he is most probably right that the US instigated the destruction of the Nordstream pipelines in light of the Swedish investigation indicating explosives were used.

He may or may not be accurate as to the means and method by which the US did it. A lot of times, the governments doing the dirty deeds have a bodyguard of lies that spread squid ink all over the information space. Then they point to parts of the made up cover story that was 'leaked' to a reporter as a hot tip and demonstrate it was impossible given the verifiable facts. They do this in order to cause people dismiss the rest as a confusing he said she said controversy.

Whether US or UK divers were used or even Polish, the end result is that Nordstream was destroyed by NATO affecting Germany with full US approval if not direct action.

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:15 PM (ZBGfo)

82 Sy Hirsch is a nutcase… but if Snopes says he’s wrong and Flabbook is censoring him, then on this he’s almost certainly right…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 20, 2023 12:15 PM (0gs5e)

83 He claims that Zelensky claimed he was buying oil on the open market, but actually bought it from Russia. Russia's oil prices are low because they're locked out of the open market and selling at a discount.

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Neocons status update:

London(CNN)Russia's oil exports have bounced back to levels last seen before it invaded Ukraine, despite a barrage of Western sanctions.

Moscow's exports of crude oil and oil products rose in March to their highest level since April 2020, jumping by 600,000 barrels a day, the International Energy Agency (IEA) said in its monthly oil report Friday. The rise lifted Russia's estimated revenue from oil exports to $12.7 billion last month

*slow clap*

Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:15 PM (wb1YC)

84 72 I made a pitchfork with a 6 foot handle just in case any special event occurs
Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2023 12:13 PM (H8LpJ)

Is it black and does it have a thing that goes up?

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 20, 2023 12:15 PM (/6GbT)

85 "I'm in a fucking communist revolution state of mind."

Easy peasy: From today onward, EVERYBODY shoplifts EVERY piece of merchandise they need at retailers. ALL of us. NOBODY pays for anything anymore! They can't stop us all,

TPTB will take notice. It would work. Very very low personal risk.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:16 PM (MvF+J)

86 Graft aside, if Ukraine was buying oil from the Russians on the cheap that's a smart move for them.

How does one buy oil, especially cheaply, from someone whom they are at war with?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 12:16 PM (OzJjC)

87 Isn't Mrs. Snopes banging the pool boy?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 12:13 PM

Don't, how you say, look at me. I have standards.

Posted by: Paolo at April 20, 2023 12:16 PM (a3Q+t)

88 I did not embezzle 400Million, that was my Tip!
And I deserve it, for the good service I give to Joe Biden.

Posted by: Zelensky at April 20, 2023 12:16 PM (sh1GZ)

89 I'm 98.7% sure that the Z man is a con man and I'd say the $400 million is on the low side of what he has stolen.

Expect all RINOs to demand to give him more taxpayer money.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 20, 2023 12:16 PM (17s+e)

90 All up to Elon being forced to buy Twitter all socal media were in the Leftists Group Think and bet all are still connected to the Government.

Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2023 12:16 PM (H8LpJ)

91 This guy can play the piano with his dong. That's impressive, man! Even you haven't done that Hunty. This is exactly the kind of guy who'll send me my 10%. Sign him up Tory. See if he can send us a few tweens to sweeten the deal. Wait, Hunter says no yellow.

Posted by: The Big Guy at April 20, 2023 12:17 PM (fs1hN)

92 And he's STILL pushing Meta.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2023 12:14 PM (0hOvj)

I see commercials for it all the time.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 20, 2023 12:17 PM (DRSnL)

93 How is Snopes even still a thing?
I thought they would have succumbed to diabetes and heart disease by now.
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:08 PM (wb1YC)
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I am sure there's some billionaire or "foundation" somewhere shunting pallets of cash over their way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:18 PM (t0OGg)

94 Unexpectedly.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 12:18 PM (ijJwM)

95 Well, at least we know who to blame.

WaPo: “Tax season is getting longer. Blame climate change.” No really, that's their headline.

https://bit.ly/41NihEb

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 20, 2023 12:18 PM (FVME7)

96 Why would India, China , Brazil buy under inflated pricing scheme ?

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2023 12:18 PM (xNg0H)

97 Absolutely everything you read about Russia or Ukraine... pro or con... is a lie. Even this.

That having been said, I have no doubt that Zelensky has embezzled at least $1B. Why not? Our Congress falls all over themselves to send money there with no oversight and Zelensky knows Russia will win in the end. Like every good dictator, he needs to set up his retirement fund.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (1Z8zZ)

98 84 72 I made a pitchfork with a 6 foot handle just in case any special event occurs
Posted by: Skip at April 20, 2023 12:13 PM (H8LpJ)

Is it black and does it have a thing that goes up?
Posted by: A dude in MI
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I have my eye on one with the chainsaw attachment. But it's a little spendy. I am waiting to see if it goes on sale. Memorial Day is coming up. Lots of good sales then usually.

Posted by: Just Lily at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (iocN7)

99 Hunter brokered the fuel deal through his pals at Burisma and SloJoe got his usual 10%.

Posted by: Hank at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (iLdko)

100 Zelensky embezzled only $400 million? Lol, what a f’ing loser! The way we’re tossing around money I would have snagged more.

Posted by: JROD at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (IlL6s)

101 Expect all RINOs to demand to give him more taxpayer money.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger

And you get a robber baron~! And you get a robber baron~! And you get a robber baron~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (jzzG8)

102 You know, I'm starting to get the impression that rigged Presidential Elections may have negative consequences.

Posted by: Hairy Handed Gent at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (5tJAN)

103 Easy peasy: From today onward, EVERYBODY shoplifts EVERY piece of merchandise they need at retailers. ALL of us. NOBODY pays for anything anymore! They can't stop us all,

TPTB will take notice. It would work. Very very low personal risk.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly
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I'm thinking the same thing. When the government is lawless then the people that are following the law are suckers.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (17s+e)

104 Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) highlights the vital work that Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is doing to ensure that "female dummies" are used in vehicle crash testing "to fight the gender inequity among...crash victims."

Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (RHGPo)

105 I've considered Hersh to be a Soviet mouthpiece since he claimed that STS-7 was a spy mission coordinated with the airliner they shot down during the flight, which was actually a disguised, you guessed it, spy flight.

Posted by: Mass Media at April 20, 2023 12:20 PM (jf6Id)

106 US knew of 9/11 terrorist in 2019

BY NAME

https://tinyurl.com/3xmzmzxh

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 20, 2023 12:20 PM (BRHaw)

107 ONE BILLION DOLLARS!11!!

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2023 12:20 PM (xNg0H)

108 >>That does seem strategically stupid on Russia's part. "What, you need oil to continue to wage war against us? Here, have some of ours!"

Maybe. But virtually everything we've been told about the war by our own government and their pr agents in the media has been a lie. The leaked documents make that abundantly clear. And it does seem that Russia is indeed winning.

Their oil exports are back up to pre-war levels, the have a new military alliance with China and they are helping organize an alternative to the US dollar for international trade. Meanwhile our economy is in the toilet, we are considered a laughingstock around the world, our military has gone woke and is broke and even our beer has lost its balls. And instead of beating Russia with our $100 billion we are losing.

So who is actually winning this war?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 12:20 PM (ZLI7S)

109 I'm thinking more like 4 billion.

Posted by: Out of the Loop at April 20, 2023 12:20 PM (eNLXj)

110 Bongino today on his podcast announced his Fox show is mort. He secretly recorded the negotiations with a TalkBoy, and played them on his show, wearing a smug grin like he's eating a big tasty turd.

Oh wait, it's Crowder who did that. Sorry. Anyway, yeah, Bongino's Fox show is over. That part's true.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:20 PM (MvF+J)

111 >>She bragged about it with an unmistakable whiff of Pride of Authorship and dirty vag but mostly Pride of Authorship.

Hahaha.

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:20 PM (P7IZS)

112 nd he's STILL pushing Meta.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 20, 2023 12:14 PM (0hOvj)

I see commercials for it all the time.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 20, 2023 12:17 PM (DRSnL)

It's funny how they've tried to change the selling point. Originally, it was "Look how fun this is! Like 'Ready Player One,' but with less murder!"
Now it's "This is so educational! You don't have to just read about lions, you can (virtually) see lions! You know, like at the zoo, but without all those smelly people around you."

Posted by: Wally at April 20, 2023 12:21 PM (FJYfm)

113 ... Moscow's exports of crude oil and oil products rose in March to their highest level since April 2020, jumping by 600,000 barrels a day, the International Energy Agency (IEA) said in its monthly oil report Friday. The rise lifted Russia's estimated revenue from oil exports to $12.7 billion last month ...
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:15 PM (wb1YC)
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The sanctions regime failed. The Ruble did not collapse (laregly because the Russian finance minister pulled off a neat trick and probably earned himself a dacha and a constant stream of young whores as a just reward), and they got over the initial barrage. This bought them breathing room to cut various deals to switch to non-Dollar settlement. It ain't over yet, but it looks like our actions were a total failure for us. Russia is still alive, the Ruble is still alive, Russian commodities are flowing again - and we've managed to turf confidence in the Dollar and provide the axes to cut down the support structures underpinning the international settlements system all at the same time.

It's really something of an achievement for the United States. It's odd to see a major policy exercise fail so completely.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:21 PM (t0OGg)

114 104 Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) highlights the vital work that Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is doing to ensure that "female dummies" are used in vehicle crash testing "to fight the gender inequity among...crash victims."
Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (RHGPo)

I saw Crash Test Dummies open for Bowling for Soup at the Texas State Fair Main Stage in 1996.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 20, 2023 12:21 PM (BRHaw)

115 Hirsh should have called is sources "People with knowledge of individuals familiar with sources with ties to Ukraine" Then it is rock solid.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 20, 2023 12:21 PM (hXpNS)

116 Yeah going all in on VR which about 3% of the population likes... not a great plan, to quote Tony Stark. Seriously, anyone but an alien-designed android would recognize that in an instant. Whatta maroon.

I'm a VR guy, and even if Meta had the best content in the universe, I wouldn't use it. Zuck really f'ed up when he demanded that using a Quest required you to sign up for FB, and if you were found to have used a fake account, they'd brick your Quest.

Of course, they DON'T have the best content on the planet, hell, their own people don't like using it.

Zuck got lucky once. He's having a hard time coming to grips with the fact that he's not that smart, and everyone hates him.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 12:21 PM (eOEVl)

117 And based on my new maxim: “reality is the opposite of what is promoted by FNM and social media”… I’m actually ready to believe that Russia is the good guys in the Ukraine war. Since I grew up with a Cold War mindset, this is a big shift for me…

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at April 20, 2023 12:21 PM (0gs5e)

118
Does the statue of St. Zelensky at the U.S. Capitol have a functional piano-playing anatomical part the Senators can admire before genuflecting before it?

Posted by: Auspex at April 20, 2023 12:22 PM (j4U/Z)

119 How does one buy oil, especially cheaply, from someone whom they are at war with?

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 12:16 PM (OzJjC)

We have a step by step plan. We bought all the titanium for Lockheed to build the SR-71 during the cold war from the Soviet Union.

Posted by: CIA Spooks at April 20, 2023 12:22 PM (gmo/4)

120 @106

This has been known for nearly two decades now.

This was one of the major revelations of the 9/11 Commission report.

They hand waved it all away with the phrase, "Lack of Imagination."

A growing cadre of people need to be thrown feet first into industrial wood chippers.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 20, 2023 12:22 PM (kR67p)

121 I am absolutely stunned it is only $400 million.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 20, 2023 12:22 PM (hXpNS)

122 That's not how this works. That's not how any of this works. They will take our pensions, 401Ks, retirement plans and use the IRS to hound us into debtor's prison.

But not one thin dime of theirs will be forfeit.

Not one.
Posted by: Just Lily
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Not really acquainted with the history of revolutions are you. Essentially the wealth keep what they can carry or cart off before the guillotines start or you get a surprise Romanian Christmas.

In part, the difference between a revolution and a revolt is that revolutions replace almost all of a ruling class with another including taking the wealth. The American Revolution resulted in a lot of wealthy people losing their land for siding with the British during that conflict and getting bupkis for it. Same for land grants by the king that had not been settled yet. Bupkis.

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:22 PM (ZBGfo)

123 When the history of these times is written

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 12:02 PM

An Optimist!

Posted by: Brother Francis Gerard A.O.L. at April 20, 2023 12:22 PM (xttsV)

124 86 During WW1, there was still trade going on between the Allies and the Central Powers. German optical lenses for rubber and other stuff. This went on through 1915. Bet there wasn't a smidgeon of grift back then (yeah, right).

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 20, 2023 12:22 PM (lz5hY)

125 When the Washington Post finally goes out of business, they should make that a national holiday going forward.

Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:23 PM (wb1YC)

126 Hersh is not trustworthy.

Posted by: KillGoogleandFacebook at April 20, 2023 12:23 PM (U9oYo)

127 Biden has not damaged Russia but has damn near killed the USA. Which was the plan all along.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 20, 2023 12:23 PM (17s+e)

128 109 I'm thinking more like 4 billion.
Posted by: Out of the Loop at April 20, 2023 12:20 PM (eNLXj)

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Based on how many pols went over there to collect their envelopes of cash, I'm guessing he's lucky if he actually netted 400 million of that billion though.

Posted by: Just Lily at April 20, 2023 12:23 PM (iocN7)

129 119 How does one buy oil, especially cheaply, from someone whom they are at war with?

Posted by: rickb223

Repeat the refrain

It is an op.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 20, 2023 12:23 PM (hXpNS)

130 Posted by: Auspex at April 20, 2023 12:22 PM (j4U/Z)

Okay... I laughed

Posted by: It's me donna at April 20, 2023 12:24 PM (bs+z0)

131 When the history of these times is written

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 20, 2023 12:02 PM

An Optimist!

Cave paintings are a kind of writing.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 12:24 PM (eOEVl)

132 Easy peasy: From today onward, EVERYBODY shoplifts EVERY piece of merchandise they need at retailers. ALL of us. NOBODY pays for anything anymore! They can't stop us all,

TPTB will take notice. It would work. Very very low personal risk.

--

Spoilers: You'll go to jail and it will cost you tens of thousands of dollars, and probably your job.

Posted by: Without Ashli Babbitt shot it's just people walking respectfully between velvet ropes at April 20, 2023 12:24 PM (yYzFo)

133
uh. I-uh,, c-c-can't feel my-uh,, my-uh face

yeah

Posted by: John Fetterman at April 20, 2023 12:24 PM (vwCZJ)

134 How is Snopes even still a thing?
I thought they would have succumbed to diabetes and heart disease by now.
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:08 PM (wb1YC)
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I am sure there's some billionaire or "foundation" somewhere shunting pallets of cash over their way.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:18 PM (t0OGg)

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You can't spell Snopes without "Soros' Pen."

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 12:24 PM (I2ZL9)

135 I’m actually ready to believe that Russia is the good guys in the Ukraine war.

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I wouldn't go that far. It's like two drunks fighting in a cheap titty bar. None of my business.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 20, 2023 12:24 PM (FVME7)

136 Based on how many pols went over there to collect their envelopes of cash, I'm guessing he's lucky if he actually netted 400 million of that billion though.
Posted by: Just Lily at April 20, 2023 12:23 PM (iocN7)
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Not bad, really. Become an international hero, be deep in the "in group," facilitate some money laundering for western oligarchs, pocked half a billion or so for yourself.

Decent gig, unless you count all the blood.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:24 PM (t0OGg)

137 It's really something of an achievement for the United States. It's odd to see a major policy exercise fail so completely.

****

Can I interest you in a two decade long desert campaign?

Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:25 PM (wb1YC)

138 Ten percent of $400M for the "Big Guy" isn't bad RoE. How much is the left and GOP skimming, I wonder.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 20, 2023 12:25 PM (Q4IgG)

139 122 In part, the difference between a revolution and a revolt is that revolutions replace almost all of a ruling class with another including taking the wealth. The American Revolution resulted in a lot of wealthy people losing their land for siding with the British during that conflict and getting bupkis for it. Same for land grants by the king that had not been settled yet. Bupkis.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:22 PM (ZBGfo)

I always saw the difference at this :

Revolution : Successful
Rebellion : Put Down
Revolt : Manages Some Concesscions, but no Overthrow

Posted by: XTC at April 20, 2023 12:25 PM (UnA8+)

140 Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) highlights the vital work that Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is doing to ensure that "female dummies" are used in vehicle crash testing "to fight the gender inequity among...crash victims."
Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (RHGPo

50 quatloos she has her own personal dummy in her closet. Probably named it Alice.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 12:25 PM (anj39)

141 She bragged about it with an unmistakable whiff of Pride of Authorship and dirty vag but mostly Pride of Authorship.
==
That's what I like about Moscow Construction workers, they don't mind a dirty vag if you give them a handle of vodka.

Posted by: Victoria Nuland, pearl necklace and earrings at April 20, 2023 12:25 PM (sh1GZ)

142 Don’t forget how Facebook and others are screwing with the minds of our children (and the weak willed).

Let it burn

Posted by: Justin Castreau at April 20, 2023 12:25 PM (V8yYW)

143 121 I am absolutely stunned it is only $400 million.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

That was only from one scam Zelensky ran as far as oil money. Now, apply this known grifting pattern to arms supplied, training, humanitarian aid, and so on.

Essentially the Ukrainians in power there are professional grifters and that was no different when the Russian supported prezzies were in office. Essentially, any elections there revolve around which set of grifters you want to put in office.

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:25 PM (ZBGfo)

144 Can I interest you in a two decade long desert campaign?
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:25 PM (wb1YC)
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I think the sanctions regime against Russia is probably a bigger failure with wider consequences. The desert campaign more or less achieved its real goal: move the nexus of conflict somewhere that isn't here.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:25 PM (t0OGg)

145 Zelensky is a crook. Maybe his army will "take care" of him

Posted by: CN at April 20, 2023 12:26 PM (Zzbjj)

146 Posted by: John Fetterman at April 20, 2023 12:24 PM (vwCZJ)

Hey John... After yesterdays attempt to run a committee, I suggest you join Joe in the basement

Posted by: It's me donna at April 20, 2023 12:26 PM (bs+z0)

147 >>It's really something of an achievement for the United States. It's odd to see a major policy exercise fail so completely.

'Never underestimate Joe's ability to Fuck Thing Up.'

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:26 PM (P7IZS)

148 139>>

Asking for forgiveness for the typo, but not expecting any.

Posted by: XTC at April 20, 2023 12:26 PM (UnA8+)

149 It's really something of an achievement for the United States. It's odd to see a major policy exercise fail so completely.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at

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You're assuming you understand what the goal was.

Posted by: Without Ashli Babbitt shot it's just people walking respectfully between velvet ropes at April 20, 2023 12:26 PM (yYzFo)

150 That does seem strategically stupid on Russia's part. "What, you need oil to continue to wage war against us? Here, have some of ours!"
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 20, 2023 12:14 PM (YIVH2)

Unless, contrary to all reports, Russia is destroying everything which comes near the battle field and wants to encourage their opponents to continue throwing good money after bad.

Note: I am not suggesting that this is the case - everything about Russia/Ukraine is a lie - merely that selling the oil in this case would make some sense.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (1Z8zZ)

151 I keep telling everyone Fetterman belongs in a Capt. Pike chair.

Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (gmo/4)

152 Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) highlights the vital work that Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is doing to ensure that "female dummies" are used in vehicle crash testing "to fight the gender inequity among...crash victims."
Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (RHGPo

50 quatloos she has her own personal dummy in her closet. Probably named it Alice.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 12:25 PM (anj39)

100 quatloos says she calls for hearings if the female dummies are shorter and lighter than the male dummies.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (anj39)

153 I always saw the difference at this :

Revolution : Successful
Rebellion : Put Down
Revolt : Manages Some Concesscions, but no Overthrow
Posted by: XTC
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Nice usable typology. Well said and I would agree. Revolts rarely end up with wholesale changes in the ruling class and rebellions don't as you noted.

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (ZBGfo)

154 "You'll go to jail and it will cost you tens of thousands of dollars, and probably your job."

Sure, if we don't ALL do it. Solidarity is essential for this to work. But people aren't pissed off enough yet to unite. We're law-abiding CHUMPS, and we LIKE being f'n chumps.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (MvF+J)

155 You're assuming you understand what the goal was.
Posted by: Without Ashli Babbitt shot it's just people walking respectfully between velvet ropes at April 20, 2023 12:26 PM (yYzFo)
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True, but I am confident that completely detonating the world trade system and ensuring the death of globalism wasn't their objective.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (t0OGg)

156 $400 million?

Nguyen Cao Ki and Hamid Kharzi wish they had gotten such sweetheart deals.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (hXLjF)

157 Fuck Facebook.
They have been dead to me for years.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (ufFY8)

158 US knew of 9/11 terrorist in 2019

BY NAME

https://tinyurl.com/3xmzmzxh
Posted by: rhennigantx

100% sure certain factions knew all of their names.

Posted by: Tim Osman at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (eNLXj)

159 121 I am absolutely stunned it is only $400 million.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 20, 2023 12:22 PM (hXpNS)

That's $400 million that can be confirmed, in one area.

Now consider the sales of American weapons systems on the black market, the internal Ukrainian theft from their own people, and the theft of the money being paid into their pension plans and government spending.

Sy Hersch is certainly reporting on what documents he has been shown. But that's the tip of the iceberg.

The odd thing is that the same folks that swear that the government is corrupt will tell you not to believe the guy that is reporting that the government is corrupt, because he can't be trusted.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 20, 2023 12:28 PM (kUWxk)

160 Posted by: John Fetterman at April 20, 2023 12:24 PM (vwCZJ)

Hey John... After yesterdays attempt to run a committee, I suggest you join Joe in the basement

Posted by: It's me donna
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Puddin and Depends for all!!

Posted by: Joedolph Biden at April 20, 2023 12:28 PM (17s+e)

161 So what? The only ones who will bleed for this will be the American taxpayers, the people who work for a living. Zelensky won't pay for this, neither will the 535 felons on the Hill.

I hope the people (NOT 81M) who actually voted for the traitorous, child-molesting, grifting dementia patient in the White House are happy with him.

God how I hate them all.

Posted by: acethepug at April 20, 2023 12:28 PM (aYyMD)

162 Can I interest you in a two decade long desert campaign?
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:25 PM (wb1YC)

YES!! Oh, sorry. I thought you said "dessert."

Posted by: Jerry Nadler at April 20, 2023 12:28 PM (DRSnL)

163 Whatever. It's idiots, fuckups, and thieves all the way down. They rule the world. They dominate the culture. They own us. It's right depressing when you think about it. Trying to be a good citizen and live a semi-virtuous life really paid off.

Posted by: Everything went ass backward at April 20, 2023 12:28 PM (GjRvg)

164 151 Pike was a hero. Fetterman's a zero. He doesn't deserve Pike's
chair.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:29 PM (MvF+J)

165 You're assuming you understand what the goal was.
Posted by: Without Ashli Babbitt shot it's just people walking respectfully between velvet ropes at April 20, 2023 12:26 PM (yYzFo)

Exactly. The goal was hush money for Zelensky, depleting NATO weapons, and killing useless Ukranian eaters. And, yeah, the GOP is up to their ears in this.

Posted by: CN at April 20, 2023 12:29 PM (Zzbjj)

166 I'm shocked - Shocked! - that the president of a country know for laundering US money would launder US money for his own benefit.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 20, 2023 12:29 PM (ou9hh)

167 Did Bongino want out because Fox sucks or did Fox want him out because Fox sucks?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 20, 2023 12:29 PM (Y+l9t)

168
Sorry about the genuflecting crack.

The priest was ok with it at Mass last Sunday but the FBI guy sitting next to me seemed pissed off.

Posted by: Auspex at April 20, 2023 12:29 PM (j4U/Z)

169 Feb 2021

"“Last night, I was on the phone for two straight hours with Xi Jinping,” Biden said Thursday as he met with a bipartisan group of senators to discuss infrastructure in the Oval Office."

https://tinyurl.com/y2vpx3cr

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 20, 2023 12:29 PM (CpCeB)

170 Never underestimate Joe's ability to Fuck Thing Up.'
==
The truest sentence ever spoken by a habitual liar.

Posted by: isnt it ironic? at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (sh1GZ)

171 Wait, how can you have female crash dummies? Isn't that transphobic?

Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (gmo/4)

172 Senile Joe needs to write a self help book--Corruption and Perversion for Fun and Profit While Being Retarded.

Posted by: N, L. at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (eGTCV)

173 Not really acquainted with the history of revolutions are you. Essentially the wealth keep what they can carry or cart off before the guillotines start or you get a surprise Romanian Christmas.

In part, the difference between a revolution and a revolt is that revolutions replace almost all of a ruling class with another including taking the wealth. The American Revolution resulted in a lot of wealthy people losing their land for siding with the British during that conflict and getting bupkis for it. Same for land grants by the king that had not been settled yet. Bupkis.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:22 PM (ZBGfo)

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Well we shall see if it gets to that point. But until it DOES, the mean to keep the proles paupers by every means at their disposal as they suck up every penny.

But if it DOES get to the revolution stage I doubt it will go the way the commies and the Powers That Be intend.

Posted by: Just Lily at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (iocN7)

174 >>US knew of 9/11 terrorist in 2019

>>BY NAME

They knew a hell of a lot more than their names. Look up The Safari Club. One of the CIA's dirtiest little secrets.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (ZLI7S)

175 Sure, if we don't ALL do it. Solidarity is essential for this to work. But people aren't pissed off enough yet to unite. We're law-abiding CHUMPS, and we LIKE being f'n chumps.
Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (MvF+J)

We are. I don't know about liking it though. But it's certainly what we're most used to.

Posted by: The comfort of the familiar at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (GjRvg)

176 How does one buy oil, especially cheaply, from someone whom they are at war with?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 12:16 PM (OzJjC)

During WWII the Swiss were managing sales between Great Britain and Germany in German Chloroquine and British Bofors barrels.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (xhaym)

177 That's $400 million that can be confirmed, in one area.

Now consider the sales of American weapons systems on the black market, the internal Ukrainian theft from their own people, and the theft of the money being paid into their pension plans and government spending.

Sy Hersch is certainly reporting on what documents he has been shown. But that's the tip of the iceberg.

The odd thing is that the same folks that swear that the government is corrupt will tell you not to believe the guy that is reporting that the government is corrupt, because he can't be trusted.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 20, 2023 12:28 PM (kUWxk)

Exactly. The $400 million is supposedly just the buying oil from Russia part. You know he is pocketing millions more from other schemes.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (DRSnL)

178 the Z man made off with the cash !!

Posted by: REDACTED at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (us2H3)

179 I have difficulty mustering outrage on this one. There's an immediate solution: stop using Facebook. But conservatives cannot walk away from anything. The need to share photos of what they had for dinner is too great.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (ppBhU)

180 "Did Bongino want out because Fox sucks or did Fox want him out because Fox sucks?"

He said they parted without acrimony. Otherwise, he was vague.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (MvF+J)

181 I keep telling everyone Fetterman belongs in a Capt. Pike chair.

***

He should be pulling levers in a castle laboratory.

Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (wb1YC)

182 Easy peasy: From today onward, EVERYBODY shoplifts EVERY piece of merchandise they need at retailers. ALL of us. NOBODY pays for anything anymore! They can't stop us all,

TPTB will take notice. It would work. Very very low personal risk.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly
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I'm thinking the same thing. When the government is lawless then the people that are following the law are suckers.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (17s+e)

God said "Thou shalt not steal". Fuck the government but I'm not crossing God.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 12:31 PM (1Z8zZ)

183 132 Frankie Yancovic of polka fame was busted for shoplifting some prepared meats of Polish origin. One of Frankie's hits was "Who Stole the Kishka". Purely a publicity stunt or the onion and garlic smell overwhelmed him and he just had to do it.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 20, 2023 12:31 PM (lz5hY)

184 Nice to see the return of the but mostly.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 12:10 PM (yylCO)

I like the butt mostly too.

Posted by: Barack Obama at April 20, 2023 12:31 PM (ivvNA)

185 As I heard the story, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy didn’t actually directly embezzle the $400 million. It seems he used the US aid money to buy diesel fuel for the Ukrainian Army from Russian oligarchs at inflated prices, then he split the profits with the oligarchs, taking a kickback.

Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2023 12:31 PM (RHGPo)

186 US knew of 9/11 terrorist in 2019

BY NAME

https://tinyurl.com/3xmzmzxh
Posted by: rhennigantx

100% sure certain factions knew all of their names.

Posted by: Tim Osman

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IIRC multiple cops testified that they had pulled over the pilots a few times but had to release them because they were illegals without visas. Might've even contacted the feds and been told to release them.

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 20, 2023 12:31 PM (CpCeB)

187 178 the Z man made off with the cash !!
Posted by: REDACTED at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (us2H3)

Let's hope the Ukranian people make him and his family pay dearly

Posted by: CN at April 20, 2023 12:31 PM (Zzbjj)

188 Neutral Sweden sold iron ore to Germany using rail through Nazi occupied Norway.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 20, 2023 12:32 PM (hXLjF)

189 Trying to be a good citizen and live a semi-virtuous life really paid off.Posted by: Everything went ass backward at April 20, 2023 12:28 PM (GjRvg)

In what sense? If you're a person of faith it paid off because-although we're all sinners in need of God's grace, God is pleased by people who are faithful, believe in Him and try to do the right thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2023 12:32 PM (Keyt1)

190 "“Last night, I was on the phone for two straight hours with Xi Jinping,” Biden said Thursday as he met with a bipartisan group of senators to discuss infrastructure in the Oval Office."

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I believe Biden was on a phone call at night for 2 hours the way I believe Kamala does Sudoku puzzles in her spare time.

Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:32 PM (wb1YC)

191 Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2023 12:30 PM (gmo/4)

It's all good. They just stuck a wig and some falsies on the dummy from Myth Busters.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at April 20, 2023 12:32 PM (aGGj6)

192 400 million from oil sales, wonder how much the Z-man and his inner circle are getting from "losing" weapon shipments to the Russike invaders? The upkeep on all of Z-man's mansions alone must be astronomical.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 20, 2023 12:33 PM (Rl7KJ)

193 "“Last night, I was on the phone for two straight hours with Xi Jinping,” Biden said Thursday as he met with a bipartisan group of senators to discuss infrastructure in the Oval Office."

Joe: Ok, you hang up.

Xi: No, you hang up first.

Joe: OK, we'll hang up at the same time.

Xi: On the count of three?

Joe: Yes

Xi: One, two, three

Joe: Xi, did you hang up?

Xi: No.

Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2023 12:33 PM (gmo/4)

194 God said "Thou shalt not steal". Fuck the government but I'm not crossing God.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 12:31 PM (1Z8zZ)

God said "the next time you see me comin' you'd better run."

Posted by: Highway 61 at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (AiZBA)

195 SPONGE!!!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (Wnv9h)

196 Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2023 12:33 PM (gmo/4)

LOL

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (DRSnL)

197
God said "Thou shalt not steal". Fuck the government but I'm not crossing God.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 12:31 PM (1Z8zZ)

Meh. He crossed you, cross him back. Besides that's from a time of poverty, scarcity, and barely-functioning agrarian economies when stealing something could kill the person you stole from. Boosting a pack of Gillettes from Wal-Mart won't have much effect on anyone.

Posted by: Being satirical. Or am I? at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (GjRvg)

198 True, but I am confident that completely detonating the world trade system and ensuring the death of globalism wasn't their objective.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at

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I really think it was/is. It's probably tied to digital currency. And it cost less than $10M total dollars to do it, because the politicians they paid off so cheaply were assured they could make money in crooked deals like Ukraine.

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (CpCeB)

199 The sanctions regime failed. The Ruble did not collapse (laregly because the Russian finance minister pulled off a neat trick and probably earned himself a dacha and a constant stream of young whores as a just reward), and they got over the initial barrage. This bought them breathing room to cut various deals to switch to non-Dollar settlement. It ain't over yet, but it looks like our actions were a total failure for us.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:21 PM (t0OGg)

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when the new world order starts seizing the assets of wealthy westerners like we did to the Russians.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (1Z8zZ)

200 >It's time to strip section 230 from all big media companies.

You can't do that without also stripping it from yourself, and s.230 is the only thing that allows this and every other conservative blog to exist.

Also Facebook is not acting as a media company *or* a platform. They are an "interactive computer service" as defined under the CDA and they are acting entirely within the bounds of the CDA.

Posted by: Daniel Ream at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (KTmDq)

201 Only $400M?? I think it's way more than that.

Posted by: Elric Blade at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (iFTx/)

202 God said "Thou shalt not steal". Fuck the government but I'm not crossing God.

So you think the Boston Tea Party was a gathering of Satanists?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (ppBhU)

203 Last night, I was on the phone for two straight hours with Xi Jinping,” Biden said Thursday

Do you think he knew he was on the phone?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (eOEVl)

204 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (9gDA7)

205 Just like the "leak" showing the catastrophic failure that is United States involvement in Ukraine, this, too, has IC fingerprints all over it. "We tried, but, man, that Zelensky fellow, may he rest in peace, was sure dirty," Biden will tell the nation once his last "Ukraine package" check clears the Swiss bank. Zelensky and his cohorts are pikers compared to the D.C. trash plundering this farce.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 20, 2023 12:35 PM (KSNKu)

206 True, but I am confident that completely detonating the world trade system and ensuring the death of globalism wasn't their objective.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (t0OGg)

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What did Friedrich Hayek call it?

Ah, yes, "The Fatal Conceit."

These assholes are out of control. They're out of control, and we'll be lucky to live through it ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 12:35 PM (I2ZL9)

207 189 Trying to be a good citizen and live a semi-virtuous life really paid off.Posted by: Everything went ass backward at April 20, 2023 12:28 PM (GjRvg)

The wicked only prosper for a short season. And for gains that will be wrenched from them by other wicked, inflation, or death.

Posted by: Thrawn at April 20, 2023 12:35 PM (Rl7KJ)

208 Seriously. Who does this surprise?

My only question here is, did "The Big Guy" get his 10%? I mean, it's his deal that sent the money in the first place.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 20, 2023 12:35 PM (9gDA7)

209 Did Bongino want out because Fox sucks or did Fox want him out because Fox sucks?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 20, 2023 12:29 PM (Y+l9t)
*****
Sounds like they couldn't come to an agreement on his extension.
His best friends are all stars on F&F weekend and they all hang up together so it should be interesting if they bring it up.

https://tinyurl.com/43euyfpj

Posted by: redridinghood at April 20, 2023 12:35 PM (NpAcC)

210 "WaPo: “Tax season is getting longer. Blame climate change.” No really, that's their headline."

... because obviously the federal government changing the due date by two or three days so it doesn't fall on a weekend is a thing completely out of anyone's control.

If I were one of WaPo's readers I would be actively offended by their insults to my intelligence.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 20, 2023 12:35 PM (ou9hh)

211 I neither like, nor trust Hersch. Is what he writes true? I give him 50-50 of on writing the truth in general. He constantly writes stuff designed to smear America, some of which has some truth to it, and a lot of selective presentation of "facts." This has been his MO for over fifty odd years.

Am I going to believe him now, just because I like what his written? Considering his history, I do remain skeptical.

But...

Considering the corruption rampant in Eastern Europe in general and Ukraine and Russia specifically, this has a good chance of have some truth to it.

Posted by: Someone Else at April 20, 2023 12:36 PM (jLZB3)

212 Although I could certainly use some more money, I don't want to be Zelensky if he played "games" to enrich himself at the expense of his country.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2023 12:36 PM (Keyt1)

213 The last time Retardo was on the phone for two hours he maxed out a credit card. And then took a shower with a young female relative.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 20, 2023 12:36 PM (lz5hY)

214 So you think the Boston Tea Party was a gathering of Satanists?
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Well check me if I'm wrong but they didn't take it home an drink it, they destroyed it. Vandalism more than theft.

Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 12:36 PM (sh1GZ)

215 why would russia sell oil to it's enemy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 20, 2023 12:36 PM (pVWRI)

216 A low trust society deserves a no trust media,

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 20, 2023 12:37 PM (hXLjF)

217 /sock no more

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at April 20, 2023 12:37 PM (AiZBA)

218 Just like the "leak" showing the catastrophic failure that is United States involvement in Ukraine, this, too, has IC fingerprints all over it. "We tried, but, man, that Zelensky fellow, may he rest in peace, was sure dirty," Biden will tell the nation once his last "Ukraine package" check clears the Swiss bank. Zelensky and his cohorts are pikers compared to the D.C. trash plundering this farce.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 20, 2023 12:35 PM (KSNKu)

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No way that kid had "need to know" access to all those documents.

He was likely an unwitting patsy ...

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 12:37 PM (I2ZL9)

219 Biden said Thursday as he met with a bipartisan group of senators to discuss infrastructure in the Oval Office."

What kind of infrastructure in the Oval Office are they discussing ? .. curtains ??

Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2023 12:38 PM (RHGPo)

220 Bongino dumped Fox to concentrate on Parler

Posted by: REDACTED at April 20, 2023 12:38 PM (us2H3)

221
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No way that kid had "need to know" access to all those documents.

He was likely an unwitting patsy ...
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 12:37 PM (I2ZL9)

Sacrificial lamb for the cause.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 20, 2023 12:38 PM (9gDA7)

222 >> why would russia sell oil to it's enemy

Russian Oil is being sold by a number of different countries, right now.

It's as easy to get as a toe.

Posted by: Walter Sobchek at April 20, 2023 12:38 PM (P7IZS)

223 why would russia sell oil to it's enemy
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Yeah, weird, huh? Almost like... Nah, there's no confirmed worldwide coordination of activities like this that we know is controlled by a group of people acting above our elected officials to achieve goals by 2030. That's crazy talk. Nevermind.

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 20, 2023 12:38 PM (CpCeB)

224 Well check me if I'm wrong but they didn't take it home an drink it, they destroyed it. Vandalism more than theft.

I see. So you can deprive people of their stuff by destroying it. But you can't just take it. How Pharisaic. This kind of shit is why I stopped going to church.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 12:39 PM (ppBhU)

225 Sure, if we don't ALL do it. Solidarity is essential for this to work. But people aren't pissed off enough yet to unite. We're law-abiding CHUMPS, and we LIKE being f'n chumps.
Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:27 PM (MvF+J)

The term you are looking for is "legitimacy"
People get a lot of status in a system through legitimacy. In our system that required supporting the current thing. That is also why Neil deGrasse Tyson is so supportive of things he hasn't got a clue about, by the way.

If you find a new set of reality to coalesce around for legitimacy other than rules laws and authority figures, you will change the world.
I suspect that is why churches and families must be subverted by the current regimw.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 20, 2023 12:39 PM (xhaym)

226 Bongino dumped Fox to concentrate on Parler
Posted by: REDACTED at April 20, 2023 12:38 PM (us2H3)

"Good call!"

- - - No one ever

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 20, 2023 12:39 PM (9gDA7)

227 What kind of infrastructure in the Oval Office are they discussing ? .. curtains ??
Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2023 12:38 PM (RHGPo)

The rug. Shuffling Joe keep tripping over it.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at April 20, 2023 12:39 PM (AiZBA)

228 You can't do that without also stripping it from yourself, and s.230 is the only thing that allows this and every other conservative blog to exist.

Also Facebook is not acting as a media company *or* a platform. They are an "interactive computer service" as defined under the CDA and they are acting entirely within the bounds of the CDA.

As I understand it, the issue to hand is whether a site is a platform or a publisher, with a platform defined as someone who doesn't select content, while a publisher does. Liability then (should) attaches to the publisher for publishing knowingly false things or verboten material such as kiddie porn. Ace is CLEARLY a publisher in that he decides what he puts up, and censors (when he deems fit) people who violate the rules he's established. How does he benefit from s230?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 12:39 PM (eOEVl)

229 Thou shalt not steel was a phrase of Iron Age restorationist fanatics.

Posted by: The Neolithics had rock and roll at April 20, 2023 12:39 PM (GjRvg)

230 The sanctions regime failed. The Ruble did not collapse (laregly because the Russian finance minister pulled off a neat trick and probably earned himself a dacha and a constant stream of young whores as a just reward), and they got over the initial barrage. This bought them breathing room to cut various deals to switch to non-Dollar settlement. It ain't over yet, but it looks like our actions were a total failure for us. Russia is still alive, the Ruble is still alive, Russian commodities are flowing again - and we've managed to turf confidence in the Dollar and provide the axes to cut down the support structures underpinning the international settlements system all at the same time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:21 PM (t0OGg)

It is a good bet that the Neocons running this grifty shitshow actually thought the sanctions would bring Russia to its knees. The catastrophic failure of the sanctions is what will endure from this war since that exposed how economically diminished the United States now is vis a vis the rest of the world.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 20, 2023 12:39 PM (KSNKu)

231
If I were one of WaPo's readers I would be actively offended by their insults to my intelligence.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 20, 2023 12:35 PM (ou9hh)

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If you had intelligence to insult, would you be a WaPo reader?

Posted by: Just Lily at April 20, 2023 12:39 PM (iocN7)

232 Bongino dumped Fox to concentrate on Parler
Posted by: REDACTED at April 20, 2023 12:38 PM (us2H3)

Oops.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 12:39 PM (yylCO)

233 113 ... Moscow's exports of crude oil and oil products rose in March to their highest level since April 2020, jumping by 600,000 barrels a day, the International Energy Agency (IEA) said in its monthly oil report Friday. The rise lifted Russia's estimated revenue from oil exports to $12.7 billion last month ...Posted by: Azathoth
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The sanctions regime failed.

It's really something of an achievement for the United States. It's odd to see a major policy exercise fail so completely.
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Depends on long run or short run. Oil producing states have an up and down cyclical downturn in revenues and that is also tied to commodity price cycle. Most of Russia's nascent tech industry has been gutted and that leaves exports to others as its only major revenue source and extraction of those will depend on foreign technicians increasingly. Stupid war by Putin with long run ill effects for Russia. We are stupid for forcing the issue bleating out invitations to Ukraine to join NATO and the subsequent economic actions by the US will hasten the end of reserve currency status.

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:40 PM (ZBGfo)

234 @186

>>IIRC multiple cops testified that they had pulled over the pilots a few times but had to release them because they were illegals without visas. Might've even contacted the feds and been told to release them.

Again, this all came out during the 9/11 Commission, the LE/IC apparatus of the US knew all of the hijackers were in the US, they knew their movements, they knew their finances, they knew they were going to flight schools, they knew they were up to no good.

But much like the FBI agents who sat watching as Islamists were going to murder Pam Geller, they sat back and "watched" like Chauncy Gardner, and then hand wave away their culpability in 9/11 by claiming to "lack the imagination," to understand what the terrorists were going to do.

They knew, they what was what, and they knew what the resultant response was going to be from the MIC/IC/LE Jock Sniffers.

As Jack is wont to say, we're basking in it.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 20, 2023 12:40 PM (kR67p)

235 >> Bongino dumped Fox to concentrate on Parler

I am sure Fox would like to trade him for Sex Buckton. Bring another CIA asset into the fold.

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:40 PM (P7IZS)

236 A ~~low~~ zero trust society deserves a no zero trust media,

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 20, 2023 12:37 PM (hXLjF)

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FIFM.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 12:40 PM (I2ZL9)

237 why would russia sell oil to it's enemy
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 20, 2023 12:36 PM (pVWRI)
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If they're not worried about the enemy winning.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:40 PM (t0OGg)

238
If you had intelligence to insult, would you be a WaPo reader?
Posted by: Just Lily at April 20, 2023 12:39 PM (iocN7)

We rate this as TRUE.

- -- - sNopes

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 20, 2023 12:41 PM (9gDA7)

239 As I heard the story, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy didn’t actually directly embezzle the $400 million. It seems he used the US aid money to buy diesel fuel for the Ukrainian Army from Russian oligarchs at inflated prices, then he split the profits with the oligarchs, taking a kickback.
Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2

This might be true. Because a good number of them committed suicide lately.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2023 12:42 PM (xNg0H)

240 "God said "Thou shalt not steal". Fuck the government but I'm not crossing God."

If I understand the Gospels, Jesus wants us to drop our obsession with 'the things of this world,' like corrupt govts and failing empires, to focus on storing up treasure in Heaven instead.

People who hang out here at AoSHQ are most likely still quite concerned with 'the things of this world' and their own survival; it's our red meat, our daily laments.

So we have a dilemma right there, between our revealed preference of daily political agonizing, and the instructions of Christ. YMMV.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:42 PM (MvF+J)

241 I see. So you can deprive people of their stuff by destroying it. But you can't just take it.
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Um well no. See vandalism is a crime also. Its just not the same crime as theft. But if you want to argue with a strawman to rationalize your lack of church going, which nobody brought up but you, feel free. I'm not here to convince you I don't mean the things you decided I mean.
You'll work it out without me.

Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 12:42 PM (sh1GZ)

242 The sanctions regime failed. The Ruble did not …

… odd .. it sounds like Joe Biden is running an “America First” scam .. and doing it badly

Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2023 12:42 PM (RHGPo)

243 Well check me if I'm wrong but they didn't take it home an drink it, they destroyed it. Vandalism more than theft.
Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it?

If I take your car and run it into a ravine, I've still stolen it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at April 20, 2023 12:42 PM (jzzG8)

244 God said "the next time you see me comin' you'd better run."
Posted by: Highway 61 at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (AiZBA)

Jesus is coming back
And boy is HE pissed

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 20, 2023 12:42 PM (BRHaw)

245 This might well be remembered as the day the head ewok went full pirate.

As to Sy Hersh, even when his reportage has a core of undeniable truth - as in his My Lai massacre coverage - he somehow manages to leave a strong stench of bovine fertilizer over the story. His nonsense tale that he broke the story by surreptitiously reading an Army document sitting in front of him (when it was upside down and backwards) was pure gloss to cover the person who leaked to Hersh the terrible details of the investigation the Army was trying to quash.

Posted by: JP at April 20, 2023 12:43 PM (tF/Gf)

246 I am not too concerned about my continuing survival. I want vengeance.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 12:43 PM (yylCO)

247 >>why would russia sell oil to it's enemy

Why not?

Ukraine isn't really a question of IF, but rather of WHEN.

Oil won't help them with the ordnance they don't have and the soldiers they no longer have.

Are they gonna put it all in the 8 tanks France sent them?

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:44 PM (P7IZS)

248
246 I am not too concerned about my continuing survival. I want vengeance.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 12:43 PM (yylCO)

*fistbump*

Posted by: I don't fear death. I fear meaninglessness. at April 20, 2023 12:44 PM (GjRvg)

249 Because this thread needs some rock.......

https://youtu.be/lU_PKkza8YE

You know you want to.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 20, 2023 12:44 PM (9gDA7)

250 Sheryl Sanberg the OG high power Gen X ho’. Her 2013 book Lean In (to lots of cock while you’re young and still have your looks) did a lot to hasten along the current generation of future Cat Women. Good thing they made lots of money focusing on their careers and climbing that corporate ladder only to find out that the males they desired within that world didn’t give a shit about their accomplishments or money. For their efforts all they accomplished is a nice chunk of change to keep up with the price of Whiskas Cat Food, Dr Elsey’s Ultra cat litter and wine to wash their Xanax down because all that shits expensive especially with current inflation. She didn’t improve anything for women , all she did was improve the sex lives of men. Well done Sheryl!

Posted by: JROD at April 20, 2023 12:44 PM (IlL6s)

251 Meh. He crossed you, cross him back. Besides that's from a time of poverty, scarcity, and barely-functioning agrarian economies when stealing something could kill the person you stole from. Boosting a pack of Gillettes from Wal-Mart won't have much effect on anyone.
Posted by: Being satirical. Or am I? at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (GjRvg)

God's never crossed me. I don't see any asterisks in the Commandments but you do you.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 12:44 PM (1Z8zZ)

252 Well we shall see if it gets to that point. But until it DOES, the mean to keep the proles paupers by every means at their disposal as they suck up every penny.

But if it DOES get to the revolution stage I doubt it will go the way the commies and the Powers That Be intend.
Posted by: Just Lily
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Revolutions are like earthquakes, once they start--the end result is unpredictable as to who wins or loses. The losers get footnotes in history as to a failed rebellion. The winners take all for several generations to follow.

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:44 PM (ZBGfo)

253 You'll work it out without me.

What 've worked out is that you are an amoral sophist.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 12:44 PM (ppBhU)

254
And just how many American soldiers are on the ground today in that shithole country? I'm betting its into four digits by now.
Posted by: Diogenes

Asshole journalists published the fact that modern U.S. Patriot units are now on station and performing air defense mission for the damned Ukes. This sucks soooo much moose cock. I probably know some of those troops, and they are going to be high value targets for Putin to remove BAMN.

Posted by: BifBewalski at April 20, 2023 12:44 PM (3CCua)

255 It is a good bet that the Neocons running this grifty shitshow actually thought the sanctions would bring Russia to its knees. The catastrophic failure of the sanctions is what will endure from this war since that exposed how economically diminished the United States now is vis a vis the rest of the world.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 20, 2023 12:39 PM (KSNKu)

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Fatal Conceit 2: Junta Boogaloo.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (I2ZL9)

256 ... Most of Russia's nascent tech industry has been gutted and that leaves exports to others as its only major revenue source and extraction of those will depend on foreign technicians increasingly. Stupid war by Putin with long run ill effects for Russia. We are stupid for forcing the issue bleating out invitations to Ukraine to join NATO and the subsequent economic actions by the US will hasten the end of reserve currency status.
Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:40 PM (ZBGfo)
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Russia was integrating with us on the tech side, and that is certainly over. The sanctions can and will keep bleeding-edge stuff out of their country. They're now in the same position as China as far as high tech goes and they're on the back foot.

But much of the situation - dependence on foreign technology and expertise - is unchanged. They were dependent before. They used to be dependent on us, but in the future they'll be dependent on someone else. Some of that stuff can only be done by us, but a lot of it can be done by China and others. This war is hurting everyone, but I think 10 years on, it will have hurt us comparatively more - if only because we have further to fall and more to lose.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (t0OGg)

257 235 I am sure Fox would like to trade him for Sex Buckton. Bring another CIA asset into the fold.
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:40 PM (P7IZS)

Wonder what Clay Travis did that it was deemed necessary to put a Fed on his watch.

Posted by: XTC at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (UnA8+)

258 The winners take all for several generations to follow.

-

It's weird to realize we're seeing this right now.

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (CpCeB)

259 If I take your car and run it into a ravine, I've still stolen it.
==
Because you drove it from where it was to over the cliff.

If you set it on fire, where it was parked. Its vandalism.
Seriously?

Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (sh1GZ)

260 Fuck me. Lotta dour humorless folks around today.

Posted by: Lighten up Frances at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (GjRvg)

261
Wonder what Clay Travis did that it was deemed necessary to put a Fed on his watch.
Posted by: XTC at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (UnA8+)

Said he's a fan of "the 2nd Amendment and boobs" on TV.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 20, 2023 12:46 PM (9gDA7)

262 Didn't we send him another billion yesterday?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 20, 2023 12:46 PM (Y+l9t)

263 So just like Afghanistan- the US is actually funding both sides of the war, so the pols in DC can take a cut of the action.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2023 12:46 PM (trdmm)

264 Repost from earlier. I expect nobody will read it, because it's rather long, but a poster earlier found it helpful. A Biblical reflection on one of the psalms, Caveat, It's ultimately from a Christian perspective, but most of it is about King David:

tinyurl.com/ca88jpyr

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 20, 2023 12:46 PM (Keyt1)

265 So you think the Boston Tea Party was a gathering of Satanists?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (ppBhU)

Well, I suppose you could argue that they didn't steal the tea, they destroyed it. Still, I'm not a preacher so I can't say if they crossed a line, I'm just a crappy follower of Christ trying to do God's will as best I can.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 12:47 PM (1Z8zZ)

266 >> So just like Afghanistan- the US is actually funding both sides of the war, so the pols in DC can take a cut of the action.

Joe Biden's brother is ready to ink a deal to re-build Keeeev.

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:47 PM (P7IZS)

267 Fuck me. Lotta dour humorless folks around today.
Posted by: Lighten up Frances at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (GjRvg)

Today?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at April 20, 2023 12:47 PM (9gDA7)

268 L
O
L

Noam Blum
@neontaster
Ben Smith has a piece in the Atlantic today on why he was right to publish the Steele Dossier in BuzzFeed. Somewhat karmic coincidence

Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:47 PM (wb1YC)

269 Angry Ace is the best Ace... I'm pissed too

Posted by: It's me donna at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (bs+z0)

Angry Ace is tight!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:47 PM (Mzdiz)

270 Joe, we need one of your harem to issue an opinion.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 20, 2023 12:47 PM (ufFY8)

271 I've got say the Obama's are pretty much scandal-free. Barack came up within the Chicago machine and yet came away pretty clean. That was the time the when the Dayleys were ruling Chi
.

Posted by: JmT at April 20, 2023 12:47 PM (o3pN8)

272 Buzzfeed
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Well..... bye

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 12:47 PM (mlv7N)

273 Seems like an awful large amount of cash lying around that Biden can just send billions here and there without it being part of a budget somewhere.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 20, 2023 12:48 PM (Y+l9t)

274 @neontaster
Ben Smith has a piece in the Atlantic today on why he was right to publish the Steele Dossier in BuzzFeed. Somewhat karmic coincidence
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:47 PM (wb1YC)
++++
*snort*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:48 PM (t0OGg)

275 "Fuck me. Lotta dour humorless folks around today."

Rephrase that in a hilarious way! Be part of the solution, not part of the problem.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:48 PM (MvF+J)

276 Antony Blinken Was Behind Effort to Organize and Gather 50+ Members of Intel Community to Lie and Sign Bogus Letter on Hunter Laptop Being Russian Disinformation

well duh!

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 20, 2023 12:48 PM (BRHaw)

277 Last night, I was on the phone for two straight hours with Xi Jinping,” Biden said Thursday

Do you think he knew he was on the phone?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023

***
He thought it was his See 'n' Say video phone

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 20, 2023 12:48 PM (J2vNu)

278
Angry Ace is tight!
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:47 PM (Mzdiz)

I'm listening......

Posted by: Don LeMon at April 20, 2023 12:48 PM (9gDA7)

279 I've got say the Obama's are pretty much scandal-free. Barack came up within the Chicago machine and yet came away pretty clean.

--

Same as Biden.

Posted by: They're lying, the bulk of EVs aren't being sold to private individuals at April 20, 2023 12:48 PM (CpCeB)

280 Start with a "common sense, modest, reasonable" tax of 1% on all social media advertising to pay for the debt ceiling increase.

Get the camel's nose under the tent.

Peg the tax to increase with inflation.

Double and triple it when we have the WH.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 20, 2023 12:48 PM (E9Gzz)

281 So we should push the tea to the edge of a ravine, set it on fire, then push it over, and we'll be square with the Lord? Sweet.

Posted by: American colonists disguised as Injuns at April 20, 2023 12:49 PM (GjRvg)

282 This busty, leggy blonde in a red dress thinks Hersh is unreliable at best, but nonetheless has no trouble believing that Z-man is stealing like it's going out of style:
https://is.gd/u85DLS

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:49 PM (t0OGg)

283 Dan Bongino is out at Fox. Pissed doesn't even begin to cover it.

Posted by: Jaimo at April 20, 2023 12:49 PM (DBrN4)

284 >>Antony Blinken Was Behind Effort to Organize and Gather 50+ Members of Intel Community to Lie and Sign Bogus Letter on Hunter Laptop Being Russian Disinformation

Biden's recently retired Chief of Staff was certainly involved.

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:49 PM (P7IZS)

285 250 Sheryl Sanberg the OG high power Gen X ho’. Her 2013 book Lean In (to lots of cock while you’re young and still have your looks) did a lot to hasten along the current generation of future Cat Women.
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In any society, there is a certain percentage of women and men who dislike or are indifferent to children, do not want to do what it takes for the next generation, and if being a parent is forced upon them generally generate hell on earth for the kids whether they divorce or not.

The best result for the rest of society is to match this percentage of women and men up with each other so they can busily make each other miserable rather than society as a whole.

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:49 PM (ZBGfo)

286 You'll work it out without me.
Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 12:42 PM (sh1GZ)

You are saying that property rights don't exist? Or are you saying that the right to property only exists as long as the property exists?

I think you are being unclear on purpose.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 20, 2023 12:49 PM (xhaym)

287 I've got say the Obama's are pretty much scandal-free.
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On what planet?

I guess getting plots of land for a song from "connected" people doesn't count for scandal anymore. It's only a house.

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 12:49 PM (mlv7N)

288 Dan Bongino is out at Fox. Pissed doesn't even begin to cover it.
Posted by: Jaimo at April 20, 2023 12:49 PM (DBrN4)
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You are, or he is?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:50 PM (t0OGg)

289 Sheryl Sanberg the OG high power Gen X ho’. Her 2013 book Lean In (to lots of cock while you’re young and still have your looks) did a lot to hasten along the current generation of future Cat Women. Good thing they made lots of money focusing on their careers and climbing that corporate ladder only to find out that the males they desired within that world didn’t give a shit about their accomplishments or money. For their efforts all they accomplished is a nice chunk of change to keep up with the price of Whiskas Cat Food, Dr Elsey’s Ultra cat litter and wine to wash their Xanax down because all that shits expensive especially with current inflation. She didn’t improve anything for women , all she did was improve the sex lives of men. Well done Sheryl!

Posted by: JROD at April 20, 2023 12:44 PM (IlL6s)

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It's Fatal Conceits All The Way Down.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 12:50 PM (I2ZL9)

290 Fuck me. Lotta dour humorless folks around today.

Posted by: Lighten up Frances at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (GjRvg)

The most difficult part of all this is not letting them steal your joy.

Remember that life consists of macro and very, very micro aspects. Invest energy in solving problems, and being grateful that you can accomplish anything.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:50 PM (Mzdiz)

291 >> Dan Bongino is out at Fox. Pissed doesn't even begin to cover it.

Relax. You still have Geraldo.

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:50 PM (P7IZS)

292 So you think the Boston Tea Party was a gathering of Satanists?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 20, 2023 12:34 PM (ppBhU)

Well, I suppose you could argue that they didn't steal the tea, they destroyed it. Still, I'm not a preacher so I can't say if they crossed a line, I'm just a crappy follower of Christ trying to do God's will as best I can.
==
I mean, Saul Alinsky would say yes. His position is that Satan is the original revolutionary. N.B. He is a miserable commie putz, who is currently roasting. Point being, revolution is a tricky thing and it comes down to the legitimacy of the authority and of the beef.

Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 12:50 PM (sh1GZ)

293
So, as I understand it so far, Zelensky, Soros, Putin and Hersh are secret Jewish Nazis bent on using their weather machine control the flow of oil and use the ill gotten gains to drive down the value of Trump trading cards?

Posted by: Auspex at April 20, 2023 12:50 PM (j4U/Z)

294 "Dan Bongino is out at Fox. Pissed doesn't even begin to cover it."

You mean you're pissed? Bongino seems cool with it.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:51 PM (MvF+J)

295 Last night, I was on the phone for two straight hours with Xi Jinping,” Biden said Thursday

Do you think he knew he was on the phone?
Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023

Yeah, but was just too stupid to see the Playskool logo on it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 20, 2023 12:51 PM (VwHCD)

296 >>This busty, leggy blonde in a red dress thinks Hersh is unreliable at best, but nonetheless has no trouble believing that Z-man is stealing like it's going out of style:
https://is.gd/u85DLS

She'd be cuter as a brunette.

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:51 PM (P7IZS)

297 I know it is a movie quote but...

Remember that howsoever you are played or by whom, your soul is in your keeping alone, even those who presume to play you be kings or men of power. When you stand before God, you cannot say, But I was told by others to do thus, or that virtue was not convenient at the time. This will not suffice."

Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2023 12:51 PM (gmo/4)

298 stealing like it's going out of style:
https://is.gd/u85DLS
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:49 PM (t0OGg)

You are a champ.
Give her black hair, and she is perfectly in my wheelhouse.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 20, 2023 12:51 PM (ufFY8)

299 Dan Bongino is out at Fox. Pissed doesn't even begin to cover it.

***

And yet Jerry Rivers still has a job there.

Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:51 PM (wb1YC)

300 260 Fuck me. Lotta dour humorless folks around today.
Posted by: Lighten up Frances at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (GjRvg)

Well you're not gonna save the nation with people who don't take life seriously.

Posted by: XTC at April 20, 2023 12:51 PM (UnA8+)

301 This busty, leggy blonde in a red dress thinks Hersh is unreliable at best, but nonetheless has no trouble believing that Z-man is stealing like it's going out of style:

She has a very happy, pleasant face.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 12:51 PM (eOEVl)

302 What 've worked out is that you are an amoral sophist.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

I saw Amoral Sophist open for Jethro Tull in Seattle.

Posted by: JP at April 20, 2023 12:51 PM (tF/Gf)

303 So just like Afghanistan- the US is actually funding both sides of the war, so the pols in DC can take a cut of the action.
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Every war of the last 100 years has been funded by the same money men.
Including WWII.
Yes, the guys who funded the US were funding the Nazis.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at April 20, 2023 12:51 PM (E9Gzz)

304 " Boosting a pack of Gillettes from Wal-Mart won't have much effect on anyone."

Pretty sure that falls under "be trustworthy in the small things so that people will trust you in large things."

Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 20, 2023 12:52 PM (ou9hh)

305 273 Seems like an awful large amount of cash lying around that Biden can just send billions here and there without it being part of a budget somewhere.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice)

Dollars have gotten to the point where they are just blips on the screen that can be transferred here or there. This works to the grifter's advantage because we have made the system so complicated that no one really knows how much is borrowed, stolen, or spent. All of that is simply guestimates nowadays.

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:52 PM (ZBGfo)

306 Our 40 gallon stainless cooking pot has arrived. It's not cannibal-size, but you could fit a kid in there.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:52 PM (Mzdiz)

307 I've got say the Obama's are pretty much scandal-free.
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On what planet?

I guess getting plots of land for a song from "connected" people doesn't count for scandal anymore. It's only a house.

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 12:49 PM (mlv7N)

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~~Black Privilege~~ Reparations.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 12:52 PM (I2ZL9)

308 "so that people will trust you in large things.""

... or maybe "lest you be found untrustworthy for large things."

Posted by: FeatherBlade at April 20, 2023 12:52 PM (ou9hh)

309 We were all born into war with Christ and must daily choose a side.

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 12:53 PM (mlv7N)

310 >>Our 40 gallon stainless cooking pot has arrived. It's not cannibal-size, but you could fit a kid in there.

Baby Goat for Dinner!

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:53 PM (P7IZS)

311 Our 40 gallon stainless cooking pot has arrived. It's not cannibal-size, but you could fit a kid in there.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:52 PM (Mzdiz)
++++
They *are* the veal of the cannibal world...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:53 PM (t0OGg)

312 FB is firing people left and right and restructuring. Their billions are melting away. They have a choice , be a government propagandist, or be a business.
Posted by: runner at April 20, 2023 12:07 PM (xNg0H)

Facebook is absolute crap. But some friends of mine are addicted to it. Mainly because of their "marketplace" function, which, although poorly managed, can be useful.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2023 12:53 PM (tkR6S)

313 I am reding that Maria Bartiromo to be fired. As judge Jeanine.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2023 12:53 PM (xNg0H)

314 I swear, people get in vehement arguments over the weirdest things on this blog.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at April 20, 2023 12:54 PM (k4KWN)

315 >>Maria Bartiromo to be fired.

Even Blowjob Lips get Old.

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:54 PM (P7IZS)

316 Our 40 gallon stainless cooking pot has arrived. It's not cannibal-size, but you could fit a kid in there.

So, two and a half Robert Reichs?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at April 20, 2023 12:54 PM (Bd6X8)

317 I guess Daniel Ream didn't want to engage on the S230 question. Pity. He seemed to have something intelligent to say.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 12:54 PM (eOEVl)

318 >>I've got say the Obama's are pretty much scandal-free.

If you don't count things like weaponizing the intel community to try and take down Trump and members of his administration, sure.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 12:54 PM (ZLI7S)

319 288 Dan Bongino is out at Fox. Pissed doesn't even begin to cover it.
Posted by: Jaimo

So? Fox hates you and wants you dead only slightly less than the other news networks. I haven't watched them since 2007 or so.

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:54 PM (ZBGfo)

320 18 Angry Ace is the best Ace... I'm pissed too
Posted by: It's me donna at April 20, 2023 12:05 PM (bs+z0)

I like Cruel Ace the best. Angry Ace is a close second.

Posted by: kathysaysso at April 20, 2023 12:54 PM (PvVvQ)

321 This busty, leggy blonde in a red dress thinks Hersh is unreliable at best, but nonetheless has no trouble believing that Z-man is stealing like it's going out of style:
https://is.gd/u85DLS
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:49 PM (t0OGg)

She looks a little like Hayden Panettiere. Whatever happened to Hayden Panettiere? I just like typing Hayden Panettiere.

Posted by: spindrift at April 20, 2023 12:54 PM (ivvNA)

322 Any questions?

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2023 12:54 PM (xNg0H)

323 Our 40 gallon stainless cooking pot has arrived. It's not cannibal-size, but you could fit a kid in there.

****

Or .87 Tom Cruises.

Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:55 PM (wb1YC)

324 Boosting a pack of Gillettes from Wal-Mart won't have much effect on anyone."

Or a case of Bud Light.
But I am not a mentally ill tranny (BIRM), so no.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 20, 2023 12:55 PM (ufFY8)

325 I am not too concerned about my continuing survival. I want vengeance.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 12:43 PM (yylCO)

Boy do I have some good news for you.

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 12:55 PM (mlv7N)

326 Well, I suppose you could argue that they didn't steal the tea, they destroyed it. Still, I'm not a preacher so I can't say if they crossed a line, I'm just a crappy follower of Christ trying to do God's will as best I can.

You think too much. If its war or rebellion, you steal from, kill, and otherwise pillage the enemy wherever and whenever possible. Or you lose.

Posted by: Hairy Handed Gent at April 20, 2023 12:55 PM (5tJAN)

327 @313

>>I am reding that Maria Bartiromo to be fired. As judge Jeanine.

So this is the fallout from the Dominion settlement then.

Bold move Cotton.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 20, 2023 12:55 PM (kR67p)

328 The BEE nails it

Hasbro Introduces New ‘Transition Me Elmo’ Doll

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 20, 2023 12:55 PM (BRHaw)

329 Fox has been dead to me since they called Arizona. I no longer watch any TV other than Netflix and Prime. The only channel I miss is the Weather Channel. Used to love watching them get all crazy about storms and such.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 20, 2023 12:55 PM (Y+l9t)

330 If I take your car and run it into a ravine, I've still stolen it.
==
Because you drove it from where it was to over the cliff.

If you set it on fire, where it was parked. Its vandalism.
Seriously?

Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (sh1GZ)

Now I have something to contemplate whilst I hoe.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:55 PM (Mzdiz)

331 Even Blowjob Lips get Old.
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Not always, big boy

Posted by: Shep at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (mlv7N)

332 E using the lawsuit bs to ... well you know , do what they always wanted to do.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (xNg0H)

333 Even Blowjob Lips get Old.
Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:54 PM (P7IZS)

I prefer DSL phrase

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (BRHaw)

334 This busty, leggy blonde in a red dress thinks Hersh is unreliable at best, but nonetheless has no trouble believing that Z-man is stealing like it's going out of style

I don't like her eyes. They tell me that she looks forward to selling my kidney.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (yylCO)

335 Of this is true, it means that both the Russians and the Ukes are going through a farce of staging a war, for the purpose of shaking down America and the Europeans for all the cash they can get. And our politicians know about it and are fine with it since they're all getting a cut of the action.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (trdmm)

336 Am I the only one who never had a FB page?

Posted by: Infidel at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (/0+YE)

337 Might be part of the settlement agreement.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (xNg0H)

338 Our 40 gallon stainless cooking pot has arrived. It's not cannibal-size, but you could fit a kid in there.

If you own a gas stove, you will be killing the erf with CO2 trying to boil water in that, citizen.

Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (gmo/4)

339 Now I have something to contemplate whilst I hoe.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:55 PM (Mzdiz)

Now I have mental imagery to see me through at least the rest of the day.

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (mlv7N)

340 >>Even Blowjob Lips get Old.

I'm appealing this decision.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 12:57 PM (ZLI7S)

341 It would be hilarious if Ukraine was buying oil from Russia.

It would also be typical.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 20, 2023 12:57 PM (2tUFv)

342 If I take your car and run it into a ravine, I've still stolen it.
==
Because you drove it from where it was to over the cliff.

If you set it on fire, where it was parked. Its vandalism.
Seriously?

What if you disengage the parking brake while it's on a hill, set it on fire, and let it roll into a ravine?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 12:57 PM (eOEVl)

343 You'll work it out without me.
Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 12:42 PM (sh1GZ)

You are saying that property rights don't exist? Or are you saying that the right to property only exists as long as the property exists?

I think you are being unclear on purpose.
==
Well not on purpose. I meant to only point out that theft and vandalism are different crimes because the comment I was reacting to as saying it was theft and so therefore some could call that Satanic (sarcastically). On the micro level it isn't really theft as much as destruction of property. Which is still a crime. The issue isn't whether it is a crime or not, its whether the authority is legitimate and the revolt is legitimate. From a moral perspective, not legal per se, if the law is not equally applied, it arbitrary and a mechanism for oppression, you may be justified in breaking it. You still ought to be careful.

Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 12:57 PM (sh1GZ)

344 Am I the only one who never had a FB page?

Posted by: Infidel at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (/0+YE)

Nope.

Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2023 12:57 PM (gmo/4)

345 Am I the only one who never had a FB page?

Posted by: Infidel at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (/0+YE)

Nope.

Ditto.

Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM (eOEVl)

346 Even Blowjob Lips get Old.

I'm appealing this decision.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 12:57 PM (ZLI7S)

Motion seconded. That was madness.

Posted by: Hairy Handed Gent at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM (5tJAN)

347 What if you disengage the parking brake while it's on a hill, set it on fire, and let it roll into a ravine?

***

Are you suggesting cars migrate?

Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM (wb1YC)

348 Asshole journalists published the fact that modern U.S. Patriot units are now on station and performing air defense mission for the damned Ukes. This sucks soooo much moose cock. I probably know some of those troops, and they are going to be high value targets for Putin to remove BAMN.
Posted by: BifBewalski at April 20, 2023 12:44 PM (3CCua)

And us without a formal declaration of war, too.
On the bright side, the chances that the Russians didn't know exactly were they are is probably zero. The only people who didn't know was us.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM (xhaym)

349 Now I have mental imagery to see me through at least the rest of the day.

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (mlv7N)

It's very hot in the sun. I'll be sweaty.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM (Mzdiz)

350 Harsh might not be the most reliable source but Snopes is the last source that should be trusted on anything.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)

Well, I am quite prepared to accept any claim of criminality on the part of Zelensky. But how does his buying of Russian diesel work? I assume it must be brokered by a third party? Doubt they are trucking or pipelining it directly across the border.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM (tkR6S)

351 Dollars have gotten to the point where they are just blips on the screen that can be transferred here or there. This works to the grifter's advantage because we have made the system so complicated that no one really knows how much is borrowed, stolen, or spent. All of that is simply guestimates nowadays.

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:52 PM (ZBGfo)

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Heard someone on radio yesterday noting that, during World War II, the U.S. Treasury issued "invasion notes" invasion notes that bore a yellow or brown seal instead of the traditional blue seal -- for identification & lest they fell into enemy hands.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (I2ZL9)

352 Used to love watching them get all crazy about storms and such.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 20, 2023 12:55 PM (Y+l9t)

Cristina Abernathy was cute back in the day.

Then they went all climate change bullshit.
Downhill from there.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (ufFY8)

353 >> Am I the only one who never had a FB page?

You are not.

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (P7IZS)

354 I swear, people get in vehement arguments over the weirdest things on this blog.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

NO WE DON'T.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (OzJjC)

355 271 I've got say the Obama's are pretty much scandal-free. Barack came up within the Chicago machine and yet came away pretty clean. That was the time the when the Dayleys were ruling Chi
.

Posted by: JmT
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Obama's grift for the most part came after the elections--netflix, book deals, and so on. Before he got a house, had his opponents sealed divorce records unsealed, hid all his transcripts and basically his life story from any press scrutiny, and so on. His wife was given a do nothing job by a hospital and he got a cheap stylish house for little of nothing from a sleazy influence peddler Rezko.

If he was dirty, you would never hear about it because the media never would run the story.

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (ZBGfo)

356 Sweaty and thinking about the moral implications of vandalism and theft.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (Mzdiz)

357 Burns provided Zelensky with a list of high-ranking Ukrainian officials known by the CIA as corrupt, and he responded by firing ten who had been "brazenly bragging about the money they had."

Zelensky has removed a bunch of provincial governors and other officials, including all four governors of the contested provinces.

Fighting corruption? Strengthen his position?

Who knows?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (2tUFv)

358 "Boosting a pack of Gillettes from Wal-Mart won't have much effect on anyone."

We should not do ineffective things! We should ALL start stealing EVERYTHING. If you want to get TPTB to start getting really scared, that's a way to do it. More effective and far less personally risky than a general tax strike.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (MvF+J)

359 Am I the only one who never had a FB page?

Posted by: Infidel at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (/0+YE)

Nope.

Ditto.

Same.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (Bd6X8)

360 Never had a Facebook page. Ever.

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (xNg0H)

361 What if you disengage the parking brake while it's on a hill, set it on fire, and let it roll into a ravine?
==
Serious answer, depends on the prosecutor and statute language. Since your ass never hit the seat, and they can't show an intent on your part to take it, just destroy it, a good defense lawyer would plea it down.

Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (sh1GZ)

362 Zelensky Embezzled $400 Million of US Taxpayer Funding for Personal Use
.........

Z-dog! My Man!

Posted by: wth at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (v0R5T)

363
Now I have something to contemplate whilst I hoe.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:55 PM (Mzdiz)

Publius be pimpin'? Had no idea.

Posted by: Playa's Ball at April 20, 2023 01:00 PM (GjRvg)

364 Are you suggesting cars migrate?

Depends. Are they carrying coconuts?

Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023 01:00 PM (eOEVl)

365 Well, I am quite prepared to accept any claim of criminality on the part of Zelensky. But how does his buying of Russian diesel work? I assume it must be brokered by a third party?

Doubt they are trucking or pipelining it directly across the border.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Putin has his soldiers bring it across in canteens.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 01:00 PM (OzJjC)

366 Doubt they are trucking or pipelining it directly across the border.

Hi there!

Posted by: Turkey! at April 20, 2023 01:01 PM (2tUFv)

367 Am I the only one who never had a FB page?

Posted by: Infidel

Nope.

Ditto.

Posted by: Archimedes

Me neither.
And i was in RE and you were supposed to be plastered all over social media but I refused.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 20, 2023 01:01 PM (Y+l9t)

368 Would Ukrainians give Zelensky the Mussolini treatment?

Posted by: mr tmz at April 20, 2023 01:01 PM (rJ48h)

369 Heard someone on radio yesterday noting that, during World War II, the U.S. Treasury issued "invasion notes" invasion notes that bore a yellow or brown seal instead of the traditional blue seal -- for identification & lest they fell into enemy hands.
Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (I2ZL9)
++++
Yup, first done in North Africa (they "yellow" notes). If we lost and the vast amounts of cash fell into enemy hands, it could all be repudiated and forbidden to repatriate - rendering it useless and of no value.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 01:01 PM (t0OGg)

370 >>Well, I am quite prepared to accept any claim of criminality on the part of Zelensky. But how does his buying of Russian diesel work? I assume it must be brokered by a third party? Doubt they are trucking or pipelining it directly across the border.

Not clear to me but I would assume some 3rd party arrangement.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 01:01 PM (ZLI7S)

371 Our 40 gallon stainless cooking pot has arrived. It's not cannibal-size, but you could fit a kid in there.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:52 PM (Mzdiz)

What are you planning to do with a 40 gallon pot? It is almost too big to turn into a still

Posted by: Kindltot at April 20, 2023 01:01 PM (xhaym)

372 Publius be pimpin'? Had no idea.

We've all got bills to pay.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at April 20, 2023 01:02 PM (Bd6X8)

373 Too bad Hersh is a fucking lunatic with absolutely no credibility after a lifetime of lying his ass off.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 20, 2023 01:02 PM (keZMg)

374 We should not do ineffective things! We should ALL start stealing EVERYTHING. If you want to get TPTB to start getting really scared, that's a way to do it. More effective and far less personally risky than a general tax strike.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (MvF+J)

*vows to cease with all the ineffectiveness*

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 01:02 PM (Mzdiz)

375 How many shopping days until the Great Ukrainian Spring Counteroffensive?

I haven't gotten my Azov figurines yet...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 20, 2023 01:02 PM (2tUFv)

376 Last free day of MugClub, so I guess today is the last day I watch Crowder. Like his content, but not gonna pay for it. Nope.

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 01:02 PM (MvF+J)

377 Are you suggesting cars migrate?
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM

They could be carried...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 20, 2023 01:02 PM (Wnv9h)

378 If America wasn't funding it, there would be no war. Both sides would settle tomorrow - but we're paying both sides to keep going.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (trdmm)

379 It's very hot in the sun. I'll be sweaty.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM (Mzdiz)

Horses sweat, men perspire, women glisten.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (yylCO)

380 Are you suggesting cars migrate?
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM

They could be carried...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 20, 2023 01:02 PM (Wnv9h)

African or European Swallows?

Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (gmo/4)

381 it means that both the Russians and the Ukes are going through a farce of staging a war, for the purpose of shaking down America and the Europeans for all the cash they can get. And our politicians know about it and are fine with it since they're all getting a cut of the action.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (trdmm)

Well, yes, this is why Putin called it an SMO. Russia correctly realized the economic game was much more important than total mobilization, and most of the last year can be explained by that fact. Russia would love to turn the Ukraine into a resource extraction zone for metals and grains. I don't think they wanted or anticipated NATO going all in militarily, but they're clearly preparing for that as well.

The people who insist Russia has lost two gorillion soldiers are going to look very stupid, and by the end of this year.

Posted by: trev006 at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (DTm0P)

382 I swear, people get in vehement arguments over the weirdest things on this blog.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

NO WE DON'T.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (OzJjC)

Up yours.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, LOL. at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (ufFY8)

383 What are you planning to do with a 40 gallon pot? It is almost too big to turn into a still

Posted by: Kindltot at April 20, 2023 01:01 PM (xhaym)

Hot water for the burning times.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (Mzdiz)

384 *vows to cease with all the ineffectiveness*
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 01:02 PM (Mzdiz)

I question the effectiveness of your 'vangelizing for okra.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (1Z8zZ)

385 348. Doug MacGregor knew, announced that Patriots would be manned by US. Also Brits and Germans there

Posted by: CN at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (Zzbjj)

386 This war is hurting everyone, but I think 10 years on, it will have hurt us comparatively more - if only because we have further to fall and more to lose.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:45 PM (t0OGg)

Small Nm chips are only "high tech" things CHN and RUS could need from West. Well, we far exceed them in bioweapons.

And CHN is not far behind. And RUS mil equip doesn't need them. Hardly any mil equip needs them. And RUS bought a bunch of litho equip etc in the process of off loading USDs and USTs. And RUS is kinda good at the science.

This whole thing is nations trying to work around scrambling for USDs to export things. If the US forces them, they will actually create an alternative. An alternative that doesn't currently exist.

The scramble for USDs is increasing so the "value" of the USD is going yo increase near and mid term.

This if course, is what is causing global slowdown.

CHN will actually collapse if USD scarcity continues and or increases.

US calculates approx 2030 for collapse. And CHN to go to war approx 2025 to counter.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (mbhi0)

387 Well, I am quite prepared to accept any claim of criminality on the part of Zelensky. But how does his buying of Russian diesel work? I assume it must be brokered by a third party? Doubt they are trucking or pipelining it directly across the border.

Not clear to me but I would assume some 3rd party arrangement.
Posted by: JackStraw

Regardless of how, why? Why would you sell to the side you are fighting against?

That'd be like the US supplying the japs in WWII.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (OzJjC)

388 It's very hot in the sun. I'll be sweaty.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM (Mzdiz)

Horses sweat, men perspire, women glisten.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (yylCO)

Come on safety pin, pop!

Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2023 01:04 PM (gmo/4)

389 373 Too bad Hersh is a fucking lunatic with absolutely no credibility after a lifetime of lying his ass off.
Posted by: Sharkman
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Heh. That same thought though could be applied to the rest of the news media and our government.

So, the conundrum of our age is which liar do you trust least? The lying reporter, the lying rest of the media, the lying fact checkers, the lying politicians, or the lying bureaucrats?

Posted by: whig at April 20, 2023 01:04 PM (ZBGfo)

390 Doubt they are trucking or pipelining it directly across the border.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Given that Russia natural gas to Europe is currently moving through Ukraine, I wouldn't bet against an oil pipeline.

Posted by: trev006 at April 20, 2023 01:04 PM (DTm0P)

391 Am I the only one who never had a FB page?

Posted by: Infidel at April 20, 2023 12:56 PM (/0+YE)
*
Nope.
*
Ditto.
Posted by: Archimedes at April 20, 2023

***
Count me in. I've never even had an account, though I have looked at more than a few pages.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, Dreaming of Elsewhere at April 20, 2023 01:04 PM (J2vNu)

392 "and conspiracy websites like Infowars"

AKA Spoiler Alert Central

Posted by: pookysgirl, striving for accuracy at April 20, 2023 01:04 PM (dtlDP)

393 >>Doug MacGregor knew, announced that Patriots would be manned by US.

Anyone familiar with the Patriot System knew this as there would be no time to properly train Ukes how to use the fucking things.

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 01:04 PM (P7IZS)

394 Russia coukd easily route oil sales through Turkey, which is glad to do deals with both sides.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2023 01:04 PM (trdmm)

395 Publius be pimpin'? Had no idea.

Posted by: Playa's Ball at April 20, 2023 01:00 PM (GjRvg)

Hoe, not ho!

Since ho is a contraction for whore, shouldn't it be 'ho' ?

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 01:04 PM (Mzdiz)

396 @350

>>Well, I am quite prepared to accept any claim of criminality on the part of Zelensky. But how does his buying of Russian diesel work? I assume it must be brokered by a third party? Doubt they are trucking or pipelining it directly across the border.

It comes directly from NATO countries, probably through Poland, payed for the laundered with American taxpayer money.

Think reverse derivative swaps and Schwinn Caffshams and everything will be illuminated.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 20, 2023 01:05 PM (kR67p)

397 Are you suggesting cars migrate?
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM

They could be carried...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 20, 2023 01:02 PM (Wnv9h)

African or European Swallows?

Posted by: Archer at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM

African flagged vessels.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at April 20, 2023 01:05 PM (Wnv9h)

398 Regardless of how, why? Why would you sell to the side you are fighting against?

Money and eventual blackmail.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 20, 2023 01:05 PM (2tUFv)

399 "Mare sweat. Where will we find mare sweat on a day like this?"

Posted by: runner at April 20, 2023 01:05 PM (xNg0H)

400 I loathed FB from the day I first eyed that bombastically "safe" blue color scheme and visually pleasing to an almost nauseating degree window box layout that the user could not change.

This is back when it was all grandmas keeping up on family pictures. The layout SCREAMED "trust us" in the way only a villain could. I told my wife that day "their patrons are all lab rats, watch".

Oh how right I was.

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 01:05 PM (mlv7N)

401 393. So it was pretty easy to determine this. It just wasn't in the msm.

Posted by: CN at April 20, 2023 01:05 PM (Zzbjj)

402 Are you suggesting cars migrate?
Posted by: Azathoth at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM

They could be carried...
==
Is it Ryan Reynolds that is from Australia? One of those guys told a story about getting kicked out of high school for grand theft auto. He and his buddies picked up a teacher's car and carried 15 feet down the street and turned it facing backwards. In australia apparently the law is moving a car without permission more than 10 feet is grand theft auto. Criminal law is some nutty shit. It is not a intuitive as you'd hope it would be.

Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 01:06 PM (sh1GZ)

403 ...not to mention that the Ukes have been burning through ALL of the other ordnance they have received.

Patriot Missiles are even more limited and expensive. No way they were gonna let the Ukes burn Patriot Stockpiles the way they have burned all of the other equipment.

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 01:06 PM (P7IZS)

404 They *are* the veal of the cannibal world...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:53 PM (t0OGg)

Especially the ones who spend all of their time indoors playing video games. Their muscles are so weak and tender.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 01:06 PM (Mzdiz)

405 It's very hot in the sun. I'll be sweaty.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 12:58 PM (Mzdiz)

Bbl

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 01:07 PM (mlv7N)

406 nood

Posted by: gp's Rapid Unscheduled Disassembly at April 20, 2023 01:07 PM (MvF+J)

407 >>It's very hot in the sun. I'll be sweaty.

Obviously, you are overdressed.

Posted by: garrett at April 20, 2023 01:08 PM (P7IZS)

408 Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) highlights the vital work that Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is doing to ensure that "female dummies" are used in vehicle crash testing "to fight the gender inequity among...crash victims."
Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (RHGPo)

Why not just use trannies instead of crash-test dummies? Good dummies cost money.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2023 01:08 PM (tkR6S)

409 Love me some Facebook. Great place to stay in contact with other conservatives around the world, country, states, counties. Trying to word comments that don’t get you those 29 day suspensions are a challenge though.

Posted by: JROD at April 20, 2023 01:08 PM (IlL6s)

410 >>Regardless of how, why? Why would you sell to the side you are fighting against?

>>That'd be like the US supplying the japs in WWII.

Why isn't Russia attacking Kiev more aggressively and trying to take out Zelensky?

I don't think Putin wants Ukraine completely destroyed nor does he hate all the people. A good percentage of them are ethnic Russians who wanted closer ties with Russia which is why Zelensky was killing thousands of them while the rest of the world yawned.

I don't know if Hersh is right or just blowing smoke but we've been lied to about this war from day 1 including the idiotic idea that Russia blew up its own pipeline. Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 01:08 PM (ZLI7S)

411 Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 12:57 PM

So you are against or for revolt? You throw words up like a squid blows ink, you uses semantically weighted words to obscure your arguments, and it feels like this is to cover your thoughts while claiming attention.

Is revolt legitimate or not?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 20, 2023 01:09 PM (xhaym)

412 Horses sweat, men perspire, women glisten.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (yylCO)

'Til the drops of glisten run off the tip of my nose.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 01:09 PM (Mzdiz)

413 Btoeen trying to set a deadline for myself to get off the blog in order to....I dunno.Get outside maybe?
Anyways, Great new song by John Rich called I'm Offended. Fun ditty. Maybe Ace can post it in the sidebar.
BBL

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 20, 2023 01:09 PM (Y+l9t)

414 I don't think they wanted or anticipated NATO going all in militarily, but they're clearly preparing for that as well.

The people who insist Russia has lost two gorillion soldiers are going to look very stupid, and by the end of this year.
Posted by: trev006 at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (DTm0P)

RUS strategy is descended from Svechin. He got purged but was right about WWII. RUS needed 3 waves of increasing mobilization. Domestic industry increased during first two and is converted into mil for 3rd and final.

RUS is in either 1st or second mobilization of a 3 part plan. Prob first. They would like to draw NATO into the defenses they built in UKR and then bleed them with 2nd mobilization while industry goes 100%. 3rd biggest mobilization will be the hammer.

NATO appears to be not industrializing in response.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:09 PM (mbhi0)

415 CHN will actually collapse if USD scarcity continues and or increases.

US calculates approx 2030 for collapse. And CHN to go to war approx 2025 to counter.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (mbhi0)
++++
Red China is scrambling like mad to get out from under Dollar dependence, and they might succeed. I am not sure which way I lean on that yet. War in or around 2025 is not a completely unreasonable assumption.

The Russia sanctions, the out-of-control spending, the weakness in UST, etc. will probably be good for things like gold in the intermediate and short terms, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 01:09 PM (t0OGg)

416
Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

* shouts and raises fist *

Strelnikov!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 20, 2023 01:09 PM (pNxlR)

417 No, it's not like the US supplying the Japs in WW2, thar was a real war. This is more like Vince McMahon paying the salaries of both fighters in a big WWF match. Of course we're just the spectators who are paying to watch the show.

Maybe the entire war isn't about territory at all - maybe the whole point is just to suck as much cash out of us as they can. It explains a hell of a lot, like why nothing ever happens except a lot of stupid breathless stories on both sides.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 20, 2023 01:10 PM (trdmm)

418 So you are against or for revolt? You throw words up like a squid blows ink, you uses semantically weighted words to obscure your arguments, and it feels like this is to cover your thoughts while claiming attention.

Is revolt legitimate or not?
Posted by: Kindltot

I have no idea why you think that, please ignore me. But the answer to your question, is obviously, it depends. Satan's was not. I bet you can come up with some that you think are legitimate without my help.

Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 01:11 PM (sh1GZ)

419 The scramble for USDs is increasing so the "value" of the USD is going yo increase near and mid term.

This if course, is what is causing global slowdown.

CHN will actually collapse if USD scarcity continues and or increases.

US calculates approx 2030 for collapse. And CHN to go to war approx 2025 to counter.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (mbhi0)

This is wrong. China and Japan are already decreasing their holdings of American treasuries. Which should be alarming given that interest rates are much higher. But there are two problems:

- rampant inflation means that people are betting on much higher rates throughout the West
- China, Russia, India, Brazil, and KSA really don't need USD holdings if they stand to be "seized" by the corrupt pedophiles running the Biden Junta.

Posted by: trev006 at April 20, 2023 01:12 PM (DTm0P)

420 control spending, the weakness in UST, etc. will probably be good for things like gold in the intermediate and short terms, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 01:09 PM (t0OGg)

Yeah. Phys gold maybe +20k. Maybe +40k if RUS And CHN make an actual USD alternative.

I am opposite of gold bug btw.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:12 PM (mbhi0)

421 Rumors > news

Posted by: Hairpin Corner Concrete Truck Collision Take Me Now at April 20, 2023 01:12 PM (mDnfd)

422 Spoilers: You'll go to jail and it will cost you tens of thousands of dollars, and probably your job.
Posted by: Without Ashli Babbitt shot it's just people walking respectfully between velvet ropes at April 20, 2023 12:24 PM (yYzFo)

You have to have the right complexion to shoplift with impunity.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2023 01:13 PM (tkR6S)

423

THis explains the full court on all the ads and PR that this received.

Part of the scam. Guaranteed some of that cash made it in to DNC accounts somewhere.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at April 20, 2023 01:13 PM (UCNv1)

424 Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) highlights the vital work that Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is doing to ensure that "female dummies" are used in vehicle crash testing "to fight the gender inequity among...crash victims."
Posted by: SMOD at April 20, 2023 12:19 PM (RHGPo)

Huh. I've never seen a crash test dummy with junk before.

The stupid, it burns like magma.

Seriously what are they even talking about? "Transitioning" crash test dummies? Putting boobs in them? I remember when the world was filled to the brim with the common mysteries and aspirations we all share. Now we are fucking inundated with mendacious worthless bullshit every day until we either check out or fry in our own lard.

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 01:13 PM (mlv7N)

425 Horses sweat, men perspire, women glisten.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (yylCO)

Um . . . Women "glow". Turds glisten.

Miley won't glisten unless she slathers up with vaseline.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 20, 2023 01:13 PM (xhaym)

426 - China, Russia, India, Brazil, and KSA really don't need USD holdings if they stand to be "seized" by the corrupt pedophiles running the Biden Junta.
Posted by: trev006 at April 20, 2023 01:12 PM (DTm0P)

There is no actual alternative to USDs.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:13 PM (mbhi0)

427 ...and you think milquetoast Desanctimonious is the man for the fight. He can't even garner a win in his own Republican controlled state against a bunch of disney pedophiles... but yeah... he's definitely the guy to take on the deepstate, military industrial complex and the main leftstream media. I've said it once and I'll say it many times more, Neocons are so stupid. How stupid are they?? So stupid half of them don't even know they're Neocons...(but they ALL think they're conservative). Trump 2024 2028 (we're overturning the 22nd amendment)

Posted by: Spyro GyroAgnew at April 20, 2023 01:14 PM (1LE7b)

428
Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) highlights the vital work that Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is doing to ensure that "female dummies" are used in vehicle crash testing "to fight the gender inequity among...crash victims."

Lady, you are uglier than fucking sin and dumber than a fucking stump.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 20, 2023 01:16 PM (pNxlR)

429 That Guy has arrived.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at April 20, 2023 01:16 PM (yylCO)

430 I question the effectiveness of your 'vangelizing for okra.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (1Z8zZ)

I discovered okra when I moved to Sakerlina. It spoke to me.

Well do I recall the first okra we sowed together! The damn deer were out nipping the tender shoots from the beans and okra. It was hell. We built a fence but it still didn't keep them out.

So, one day I was standing in the garden with Publius, looking over the okra, It was maybe 6" tall. I asked him how tall it's supposed to get. "Head high," he replied. "You mean, like a head on the ground?"

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at April 20, 2023 01:16 PM (Mzdiz)

431 Miley glistens even when she hasn't done a speck of work.

Posted by: ... at April 20, 2023 01:16 PM (mlv7N)

432 Patriot Missiles are even more limited and expensive. No way they were gonna let the Ukes burn Patriot Stockpiles the way they have burned all of the other equipment.
Posted by: garrett

In year 2000 equivalent dollars, they are $2M a pop.

Posted by: BifBewalski at April 20, 2023 01:16 PM (3CCua)

433 Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) highlights the vital work that Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg is doing to ensure that "female dummies" are used in vehicle crash testing "to fight the gender inequity among...crash victims."

Lady, you are uglier than fucking sin and dumber than a fucking stump.
==
THAT'S A MAN, BABY!!!!

Posted by: Austin Powers at April 20, 2023 01:16 PM (sh1GZ)

434 RUS is in either 1st or second mobilization of a 3 part plan. Prob first. They would like to draw NATO into the defenses they built in UKR and then bleed them with 2nd mobilization while industry goes 100%. 3rd biggest mobilization will be the hammer.

NATO appears to be not industrializing in response.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:09 PM (mbhi0)

I don't even think they'll need to deep think this. The NATO bases in the Baltics, but particularly the British and Canadian ones, are weak as hell. Russia can either force them into total retreat or wipe them off the map.

Then what?

Posted by: trev006 at April 20, 2023 01:17 PM (DTm0P)

435 Regardless of how, why? Why would you sell to the side you are fighting against?

That'd be like the US supplying the japs in WWII.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (OzJjC)

Germany and England traded German Chloroquine for British made Bofors barrels during WWII. Also there were rumors that the IJN Navy planes were using US made sparkplugs so who knows

The Russians need the dollars and the UKR has to buy diesel from somebody.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 20, 2023 01:18 PM (xhaym)

436 Last night, I was on the phone for two straight hours with Xi Jinping,” Biden said Thursday

Telling stupid Christian jokes?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 20, 2023 01:18 PM (FVME7)

437 I swear, people get in vehement arguments over the weirdest things on this blog.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

NO WE DON'T.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (OzJjC)

Up yours.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt, LOL. at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (ufFY

ESAD!! **sends a Jersey Salute™**

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at April 20, 2023 01:19 PM (Zvtjl)

438 There is no actual alternative to USDs.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:13 PM (mbhi0)

As a "global reserve currency" you might be right. China is trying to get nations to move away from the concept and go back to bilateral currency trades. Given that Brazil is already on that path, and Mexico (?!) is looking to join the party, the trajectory of USD demand will go dramatically downwards.

Posted by: trev006 at April 20, 2023 01:20 PM (DTm0P)

439 I don't even think they'll need to deep think this. The NATO bases in the Baltics, but particularly the British and Canadian ones, are weak as hell. Russia can either force them into total retreat or wipe them off the map.

Then what?
Posted by: trev006 at April 20, 2023 01:17 PM (DTm0P)

Idk. It seems RUS is the only one aware of what Strategy is.

US seems to have had only a knockout blow planned.

I guess we'll see if our sub fleet still has enough superiority to let US walk away.

Or rather, if RUS has calculated that.

It seems everyone thinks the opposite is reality. And that our subs have insufficient advantage.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:20 PM (mbhi0)

440
Posted by: it went into the drink, drink, get it? at April 20, 2023 01:11 PM (sh1GZ)

I am not arguing about legitimacy you are, and yet you blow more words instead of arguments.
If all you want to do is argue, then fine, but then you call my responses invalid, so you seem to just want to abuse people.
Why do you not engage honestly?

Posted by: Kindltot at April 20, 2023 01:22 PM (xhaym)

441 Given that Brazil is already on that path, and Mexico (?!) is looking to join the party, the trajectory of USD demand will go dramatically downwards.
Posted by: trev006 at April 20, 2023 01:20 PM (DTm0P)

Only if the global demand stays the same or decreases. It is currently rising faster than others can contrive work arounds. In my opinion. Signs of scarcity increasing and global economy slowing.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:22 PM (mbhi0)

442 Strelnikov!

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I could use an armed an armored train. Settle some scores.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 20, 2023 01:23 PM (FVME7)

443 Fox's News
@FoxNews
‘Save women’s sports’ bill passes House with zero votes from Dems, who call it transgender ‘bullying’

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The Donks have gone full Bud Light.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 20, 2023 01:27 PM (FVME7)

444 So, the conundrum of our age is which liar do you trust least? The lying reporter, the lying rest of the media, the lying fact checkers, the lying politicians, or the lying bureaucrats?

Posted by: whig

I don't trust anyone.

*shifty eyes*

Not even myself!!

Posted by: Sharkman at April 20, 2023 01:27 PM (keZMg)

445
How does this:
"So you are against or for revolt? You throw words up like a squid blows ink, you uses semantically weighted words to obscure your arguments, and it feels like this is to cover your thoughts while claiming attention.
Is revolt legitimate or not?"
Posted by: Kindltot
Answered:I have no idea why you think that, please ignore me. But the answer to your question, is obviously, it depends. Satan's was not. I bet you can come up with some that you think are legitimate without my help.

Result in this?
"I am not arguing about legitimacy you are, and yet you blow more words instead of arguments.
If all you want to do is argue, then fine, but then you call my responses invalid, so you seem to just want to abuse people.
Why do you not engage honestly?"
Posted by: Kindltot

Posted by: Why do you think I'm arguing? at April 20, 2023 01:27 PM (sh1GZ)

446 Same.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - Z28.310 at April 20, 2023 12:59 PM (Bd6X

Nor this cowboy. Nope, no way.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2023 01:32 PM (tkR6S)

447 I could use an armed and armored train. Settle some scores.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?

Evil Vampire King Karl Urban's somewhat armored train in the movie "Priest" was pretty cool. That movie is a guilty favorite of mine. Paul Bettany in the title role, much like his similar role as Archangel Michael in "Legion", another guilty fave.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 20, 2023 01:33 PM (keZMg)

448 "I know that they cannot function without some version of s.230 protection, and that this will drive them bankrupt."

Be careful, Ace, because the same thing applies to you.

"I give the Devil the benefit of the Law, for MY OWN SAFETY'S SAKE!" --- A Man For All Seasons.

Posted by: SDN at April 20, 2023 01:34 PM (KdP4Y)

449 Our 40 gallon stainless cooking pot has arrived. It's not cannibal-size, but you could fit a kid in there.
Posted by: Miley
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Bunny population in SC suddenly drops, okra production soars.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 20, 2023 01:34 PM (59Ws+)

450 Regardless of how, why? Why would you sell to the side you are fighting against?

That'd be like the US supplying the japs in WWII.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 20, 2023 01:03 PM (OzJjC)

Maybe the Russkis figured it would allow the ukes to drive their tanks within range of Russian guns?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 20, 2023 01:37 PM (tkR6S)

451 If it's true, though, it makes me doubt the "Ukraine is on the cusp of victory" stuff even more. Russia needs the money, but *no* country would sell vital commodities to a directly-engaged enemy combatant if that enemy combatant was cleaning its clock.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 20, 2023 12:08 PM (t0OGg)

There were rumors that at least one complete HIMARs system with ammunition was sold in its entirely to Russia when it was first being deployed into Ukraine. While these were never verified, there definitely were other bits of military hardware donated to Ukraine that ended up on the black market.

Also one of the triggers for Nordstream II was Ukraine's habit of stealing gas from the pipelines running to Europe and making Russia make good on deliveries. I doubt that these profits made it down to the common folk.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 01:53 PM (eoQWY)

452 Given that Brazil is already on that path, and Mexico (?!) is looking to join the party, the trajectory of USD demand will go dramatically downwards.
Posted by: trev006 at April 20, 2023 01:20 PM (DTm0P)

Only if the global demand stays the same or decreases. It is currently rising faster than others can contrive work arounds. In my opinion. Signs of scarcity increasing and global economy slowing.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:22 PM (mbhi0)

The presence of alternatives can put a brake on abuses by the major player more than their size suggests as long as those alternatives can expand. If abusing the dollar drives significant traffic away, this means the effectiveness of using it as an instant sump for our spending works less well.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 01:57 PM (eoQWY)

453 I don't even think they'll need to deep think this. The NATO bases in the Baltics, but particularly the British and Canadian ones, are weak as hell. Russia can either force them into total retreat or wipe them off the map.

Then what?
Posted by: trev006 at April 20, 2023 01:17 PM (DTm0P)

Idk. It seems RUS is the only one aware of what Strategy is.

US seems to have had only a knockout blow planned.

I guess we'll see if our sub fleet still has enough superiority to let US walk away.

Or rather, if RUS has calculated that.

It seems everyone thinks the opposite is reality. And that our subs have insufficient advantage.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:20 PM (mbhi0)

I found it very amusing that the press was speaking of the NATO front vs Russia growing from 1000 km to 2500 or whatever with Finland joining as if this were an advantage. Look, idiots, you have to *defend* that area now while only getting Finlands few thousand troops added and obsolete weapons. Russia, on the other hand, has to only defend a few selected points - St Petersburg, Murmansk ports, a few rail junctions as the rest is just rough terrain with awful weather.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 02:01 PM (eoQWY)

454 RUS is in either 1st or second mobilization of a 3 part plan. Prob first. They would like to draw NATO into the defenses they built in UKR and then bleed them with 2nd mobilization while industry goes 100%. 3rd biggest mobilization will be the hammer.

NATO appears to be not industrializing in response.
Posted by: Thesokorus at April 20, 2023 01:09 PM (mbhi0)

NATO has been demilitarizing itself for decades, and now much of their equipment has been sent to Ukraine and lost. More will follow. Replacements will be years coming. The US has also put huge dents in its stocks of weapons that won't be replaced soon.

Russia doesn't need to advance a meter outside its borders to incorporate alien unruly people. Parts of Ukraine that are Russian are incorporated and others will follow, what happens to the rump of Ukraine is the question.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 02:05 PM (eoQWY)

455 >>Well, I am quite prepared to accept any claim of criminality on the part of Zelensky. But how does his buying of Russian diesel work? I assume it must be brokered by a third party? Doubt they are trucking or pipelining it directly across the border.

Not clear to me but I would assume some 3rd party arrangement.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 20, 2023 01:01 PM (ZLI7S)

The sanctions explicitly allow sales of Russian oil if 'mixed' into a new product by a third party. So oil from Russia goes to India, say, they toss in a gallon of Wesson oil to the tanker and sail it off and its all legal.

The US itself is doing this kind of traffic through India for a lot of the Russian oil it used to use.

Posted by: Oldcat at April 20, 2023 02:10 PM (eoQWY)

456 Who among us did not know this would occur?

Posted by: Jim at April 20, 2023 03:08 PM (zhWvq)

457 No Honor among Thieves

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 20, 2023 05:16 PM (wGqjj)

458 As a Great Man once said..... "WAR".
https://youtu.be/FhSy-6VqIww

Posted by: TXMarko at April 20, 2023 09:46 PM (tRsUh)

459 Gambling? In Casablanca? I'm shocked! Shocked, I say! Have my winnings sent to my office.

Posted by: Penultimatum at April 20, 2023 10:59 PM (7wUI2)

460 Gгeetings! I know tһis is қinda off t᧐pic but I was wondering if ｙou knew where I could get a captcha plugіn foг my comment form?

I'm using the same blog platform as yours and I'm having trouble finding one?
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