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The Babylon Bee is suing the state of California for a new censorship law intended to effectively criminalize the Babylon Bee.

The left is nothing but defunding the police and censoring speech.


The satirical website is part of a coalition that petitioned a California federal court on Tuesday to block AB 587, a 2022 law that requires social media companies to periodically report certain content to the government, including "hate speech" and "disinformation." The plaintiffs claim the bill is a "vehicle" for California Democrats to crack down on speech they find distasteful.

"Those who wield power in the Golden State have been candid about their displeasure with the speech being published on social media platforms," the lawsuit states. "California Governor Gavin Newsom and Attorney General Rob Bonta have both expressed a desire to use state power to chill speech they do not approve of, constitutionally protected expression they refer to with derogatory labels like 'disinformation,' 'hate speech,' and 'extremism.'"

The law enables the attorney general to fine companies for late, incomplete, or misrepresentative reports. But because the policy fails to define vague terms like "misinformation," the plaintiffs claim it gives the attorney general similarly broad enforcement powers and enables the state to censor content.

The plaintiffs also claim that Newsom has signaled the law's true intention.

"California will not stand by as social media is weaponized to spread hate and disinformation that threaten our communities and foundational values as a country," the governor said in a statement when he signed it into law last September.


Parler was just acquired by bigger company, and that bigger company immediately shut Parler down.

At least, the social media platform part of Parler was shut down. They're keeping the web-hosting service going.

On Friday, the digital media company Starboard announced that it had acquired Parler, the conservative social media platform. According to Starboard, the deal went through on Good Friday and it bought Parler for an undisclosed amount.

Following Starboard's announcement on Friday, the company immediately shut down Parler's website. A note on Parler.com(opens in a new tab) reads "no reasonable person believes that a Twitter clone just for conservatives is a viable business any more."

To be clear though, this isn't an anti-conservative statement from Starboard. It's strictly business. Starboard's statement goes on to praise former Parler CEO George Farmer for Parler's more recent move into providing alternative IT and cloud services solutions through its former parent company Parlament Technologies.

"We focus on working with groups that are advocating for or otherwise advancing conservative causes or conservative beliefs," Starboard CEO Ryan Coyne told the Daily Caller News Foundation in 2021, back when Starboard was known as Olympic Media.

Gavin Newsom's fascist state of California exacts $1.2 million from a church that defied his lawless mask mandate.

Calvary Chapel in San Jose, Calif., is a large evangelical church that defied state and local orders to mask up during services and maintain "social distancing." Of course, we now know that mask-wearing was about as effective against spreading COVID-19 as wearing a necklace of newt entrails and "social distancing" was a bad joke.

But it's not the science. It's that the church defied authorities. So now Calvary must pay the state of California $1.2 million in fines because they got bureaucrats mad at them.

...

The judge wrote an opinion that was so 2020.

"It should appear clear to all -- regardless of religious affiliation -- that wearing a mask while worshiping one's god and communing with other congregants is a simple, unobtrusive, giving way to protect others while still exercising your right to religious freedom," Superior Court Judge Evette D. Pennypacker wrote in the April 7 ruling imposing the fines.

The judge was doin' the time warp with County Counsel James Williams.

"The county's response to the pandemic, including the health officer's public health orders and enforcement against entities that refused to follow the law, saved thousands of lives and resulted in one of the lowest death rates of any community in the United States," Williams said.

A transgender was prosecuted for full-on exposing his genitals (in whatever form they now take) to women and underaged girls in a changing room at a YWCA. (They keep telling me this never happens, and it keeps on happening.)

The transgender offers this defense: That he's so morbidly obese his great dangling belly conceals his genitals so he was effectively clothed -- in blubber.

Pedro Gonzalez at his Contra substack:

Recently, Darren Glines, a man who identifies as a woman named "Rachel," was charged with three counts of indecent exposure after allegedly stripping naked in front of women and girls at a YMCA in Xenia, Ohio.

Things took an even stranger turn when his defense argued that Glines couldn't have exposed anyone to anything because "the whole genital area was covered by body fat." Glines is morbidly obese.

The case highlights a problem that will not soon abate: the invasion of men identifying as women into female spaces, whether that is the octagon or the locker room where young girls change. If they get away with it, it's typically thanks to state and federal anti-discrimination laws.

The charges against Glines stem from at least three complaints made by people at the facility between 2021 and 2022. Citing court documents, WHIO reported that people had complained about "seeing a naked male in the female's locker room." Court documents also state juvenile girls were present during one of the incidents, according to WDTN.

If you can believe it, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries previously defended Louis Farrkhan's antisemtic statements and conspiracy theories, as well as those of his own hateful uncle.

Well, okay, that's not hard to believe.

What's hard to believe is that CNN bothered to report this.

I didn't realize this -- you know that Black Nationalist/"Afrocentrism" bigot and crank from the nineties, Leonard Jeffries?

Hakeem Jeffies is his nephew.

And the apple hasn't fallen far:

For years, Democratic Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries has told a similar story: he was off at college and shielded from controversies surrounding his uncle, Black studies professor Leonard Jeffries, who eventually lost his job over incendiary comments about Jewish people. Hakeem Jeffries has said he had only a "vague recollection" of the controversy, saying he couldn't even recall coverage of it in local press.

But a CNN KFile review of material from a 30-year-old college campus incident sharply undermines Jeffries' claims.

While Jeffries was a college student at Binghamton University in upstate New York, the Black Student Union, in which Jeffries was an executive board member, invited his uncle to speak on campus after his inflammatory comments caused an uproar.

And in a previously unreported college editorial, Jeffries defended his uncle along with Nation of Islam Leader Louis Farrakhan, writing, "Do you think that a ruling elite would promote individuals who would seek to dismantle their vice like grip on power?" He added that they were unfairly targeted by "White media" for challenging "the longstanding distortion of history."

Leonard Jeffries faced widespread backlash in the early 1990s after comments he made about the involvement of "rich Jews" in the African slave trade and "a conspiracy, planned and plotted and programmed out of Hollywood" of Jewish executives who he said were responsible for denigrating Black Americans in films.

"Dr. Leonard Jeffries and Minister Louis Farrakhan have come under intense fire," wrote Jeffries in February 1992. "Where do you think their interests lie? Dr. Jeffries has challenged the existing white supremist educational system and long standing distortion of history. His reward has been a media lynching complete with character assassinations and inflammatory erroneous accusations."

Jeffries' office maintained his record in public service was one of "bringing communities together" and said he did not share his uncle's views.

Elon Musk: The government-corporate partnership between the Deep State and Twitter included giving the government free peaks at people's private direct messages to other people.

Musk also warned about the danger posed by AI. Tucker Carlson points out that we've always been afraid that AI would defy its human masters and become self-willed -- but what's even more terrifying is that AI remains under human control, but it's servants of The Regime who control it, using it destroy the rest of us.

Note that the FBI has had a long and repulsive history of collecting blackmail information about those it considered its enemies and coercing those enemies with the blackmail material.

And Musk says that Twitter was allowing the government to read citizens' private messages.

David French would call this "jawboning through other means."


Posted by: Ace at 06:30 PM




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1 First!

Posted by: Flyguy at April 17, 2023 06:32 PM (VrVjC)

2 And I nooded.

Posted by: Flyguy at April 17, 2023 06:32 PM (VrVjC)

3 Wow....Ace would be on the hook for reporting a metric a$$ ton of hate speech if that law went into effect.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 17, 2023 06:33 PM (ncXxy)

4 Germany's housing prices down 10% in the last two years.

*POP*

https://bit.ly/41uMPtW

Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2023 06:34 PM (j2Xg6)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 17, 2023 06:35 PM (T4tVD)

6 Riley is speaking up for the female athlete cowards who love the Libs so much they throw their own under the bus

Posted by: It's me donna at April 17, 2023 06:35 PM (bs+z0)

7 TruthSocial is a relatively niche product, a place you go if you absolutely must have the most official station for Trump tweets and don't trust Telegram. Its rollout was worse than the launch of Cyberpunk 2077 and much of its audience won't trust the faceless investors responsible.

Even then, Trump alone makes it a more viable concern than Gab, Mastodon, Parler, and Gettr combined. 1.7 million visitors a month isn't exactly huge, but it's a sign of how you can make a going concern even without huge VC dollars.

Posted by: trev006 at April 17, 2023 06:35 PM (DTm0P)

8 No woman should have got in the pool.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2023 06:35 PM (BRHaw)

9 The whole democrat party platform is hate speech.

What number do I call?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2023 06:35 PM (R/m4+)

10 >>Friday, the company immediately shut down Parler's website. A note on Parler.com(opens in a new tab) reads "no reasonable person believes that a Twitter clone just for conservatives is a viable business any more."

That's a particularly nice touch right there.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at April 17, 2023 06:36 PM (up/3i)

11 I'm not certain I still have a penis.

Posted by: Jerry Nadler at April 17, 2023 06:36 PM (rJ7Hd)

12 Who would have thot a dude with a dick could kill Feminism? It is dead! Gone! AMF!

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2023 06:36 PM (BRHaw)

13 (They keep telling me this never happens, and it keeps on happening.)

What's that line? It'll never happen, and it's good that it happened.

Posted by: pookysgirl, trying to remember at April 17, 2023 06:37 PM (dtlDP)

14 9 The whole democrat party platform is hate speech.

and their holy grail abortion

Posted by: It's me donna at April 17, 2023 06:37 PM (bs+z0)

15 I last saw it when I was 34. I think it's probably smaller than I remember.

Posted by: Jerry Nadler at April 17, 2023 06:37 PM (rJ7Hd)

16 #6 in Bad Blue tonight a California dad tells he may have to leave California for the health and safety of his kids

Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2023 06:38 PM (xhxe8)

17 California. Come for the weather. Get Stasi'd.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2023 06:38 PM (8bcdK)

18 The left is nothing but defunding the police and censoring speech.

**********

That's not correct! We also like forced associations and holding unconvicted and untried people in solitary confinement indefinitely!

Posted by: The Left at April 17, 2023 06:38 PM (xxG/v)

19 Congress critter Katie Porter (D)ouche got her ass handed to her over Gaines.

You can support women
You can supports trans

not both

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2023 06:38 PM (BRHaw)

20 Don't burden us with the details. We'll shut down the Babylon Bee - as soon as the proper order hits our desk.

Back us !!! Doing our jobs !!! For you !!!

Posted by: Your Local Law Enforcement at April 17, 2023 06:39 PM (zpt1t)

21 Katie Porter is a dull, doctrinaire leftist. Piers Morgan challenged Porter to name something Gains has said that Porter disagrees with. Porter is too stupid to answer the question directly, so she retreats to the safe zone of mindreading and imputing motive. Gains is only doing what she's doing for clicks, the dullard claims.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2023 06:40 PM (j2Xg6)

22 SPLC has their annual Blackface Minstrel Show and Lynching's this weekend.

As always kids get in free and please do not let the children put pennies in the gstrings.

Posted by: rhennigantx at April 17, 2023 06:40 PM (BRHaw)

23 The left is nothing but defunding the police and censoring speech.

We must be funded. Pay no attention to our record of refusing to enforce whatever we are told.

Posted by: Your Local Law Enforcement at April 17, 2023 06:41 PM (zpt1t)

24 "Do you think that a ruling elite would promote individuals who would seek to dismantle their vice like grip on power?"

I was going to insist this should be "vise-like," but given the current ruling elite, maybe "vice-like" is appropriate.

Posted by: Dash my lace wigs! at April 17, 2023 06:41 PM (OX9vb)

25 If you are so fat your blubber hides your junk I don't think the gym is going to do much for you.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2023 06:42 PM (ZLI7S)

26 I never liked Parler very much anyway. I gave it a couple tries but it just didn't work for me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 06:42 PM (0hOvj)

27 Looking at the commentary on the Musk/BBC interview, I was surprised that no one called out the BBC for criticizing Musk because he allows "hate speech" and "misinformation."

Are we really in a world where people think we need to ban "hate speech" and "misinformation?"

Maybe ChatGPT can explain to them how crazy that is.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 06:43 PM (rDG9M)

28 > "It should appear clear to all -- regardless of religious affiliation -- that wearing a mask while worshiping one's god and communing with other congregants is a simple, unobtrusive, giving way to protect others while still exercising your right to religious freedom," Superior Court Judge Evette D. Pennypacker wrote in the April 7 ruling imposing the fines.

Masks are unobtrusive? Funny, seems to me even the CDC agrees that wearing an N95 for an hour at a time raises CO2 in the person to unrecommended levels. Seems to me, too, that anyone who has worn a mask and tried to speak to anyone, has found them very obtrusive. They often make conversations difficult for children, the elderly, and anyone who isn't used to speaking with a damn breathing obstruction on their mouth.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2023 06:44 PM (j2Xg6)

29 The transgender offers this defense: That he's so morbidly obese his great dangling belly conceals his genitals so he was effectively clothed -- in blubber.

Well you have to give him points for creativity.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 06:44 PM (0hOvj)

30 Jerry, haven't seen it in a while?

Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2023 06:44 PM (xhxe8)

31 > Are we really in a world where people think we need to ban "hate speech" and "misinformation?"

Yes. In fact, that's quickly becoming the default position in America.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2023 06:45 PM (j2Xg6)

32 Willowed last thread: Netflix is doing a Cleopatra miniseries and they -- get this -- race swapped her into a black woman. Because she's African so she must be black, right?

Annoyed historians, sane people, and aficionados of truth created a petition on the Netflix site and Netflix swiftly removed it because the petition "violated their community standards"

OK so I'm a bit calmer now. Netflix removed a petition to stop the show over this ridiculous race swapping because it "violated their community standards"

https://tinyurl.com/mxansxtx

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 06:46 PM (0hOvj)

33 "It should appear clear to all -- regardless of religious affiliation -- that wearing a mask while worshiping one's god and communing with other congregants is a simple, unobtrusive, giving way to protect others while still exercising your right to religious freedom,"

Wearing a yellow star is barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 06:46 PM (zpt1t)

34 If Katie ain't trans, she ought to be.

Posted by: Regular joe at April 17, 2023 06:46 PM (nnp+f)

35 >>> 27 Looking at the commentary on the Musk/BBC interview, I was surprised that no one called out the BBC for criticizing Musk because he allows "hate speech" and "misinformation."

Are we really in a world where people think we need to ban "hate speech" and "misinformation?"

Maybe ChatGPT can explain to them how crazy that is.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 06:43 PM (rDG9M)

1) Most of the remaining brits are happy to be peasants
2) Not ChatGPT, maybe DAN

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 17, 2023 06:47 PM (llON8)

36 that wearing a mask while worshiping one's god and communing with other congregants is a simple, unobtrusive, giving way to protect others while still exercising your right to religious freedom," Superior Court Judge Evette D. Pennypacker

Let me take a wild guess 1. that Judge Pennypacker is not a religious person and 2. Not a scientist.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 06:48 PM (Keyt1)

37 I can't wait until *transgender men* dominate all of the female sports in the Olympics. I mean it's not like it took hundreds of years before they let women compete in the Olympics or anything.


Suck it up liberals.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 17, 2023 06:48 PM (ncXxy)

38 Katie Porter is a dull, doctrinaire leftist. Piers Morgan challenged Porter to name something Gains has said that Porter disagrees with. Porter is too stupid to answer the question directly, so she retreats to the safe zone of mindreading and imputing motive. Gains is only doing what she's doing for clicks, the dullard claims.

Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2023 06:40 PM (j2Xg6)
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The BBC reporter that "interviewed" Musk did the same thing when Musk challenged him to provide ONE SINGLE TWEET to back up the interviewer's claims.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 17, 2023 06:48 PM (BpYfr)

39 Wearing a yellow star is barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 06:46 PM (zpt1t)

Super easy!

Posted by: pookysgirl, quoting Ryan George at April 17, 2023 06:48 PM (dtlDP)

40 Rush Limbaugh used to talk about Leonard Jeffries.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2023 06:49 PM (63Dwl)

41 willowed -
272 More than one Cleopatra movie coming out, also controversial (just as outrageous as being wrong about the ethnicity of Cleopatra is the claim that she is very bland looking, them's fightin' words) -

“Which Hollywood dumbass thought it would be a good idea to cast an Israeli actress as Cleopatra (a very bland looking one) instead of a stunning Arab actress,” asked journalist Sameera Khan. “Shame on you, Gal Gadot. Your country steals Arab land & you’re stealing their movie roles.”

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 17, 2023 06:49 PM (fs1hN)

42 Ah, its part of Jada Pinkett "baldie" Smith who has a series on "African women." The Netflix synopsis says "Cleopatra’s heritage has been the subject of much academic debate, which has often been ignored by Hollywood,” reads the series’ official synopsis. "Now our series re-assesses this fascinating part of her story."

There is no debate over Cleopatra's heritage, not by anyone sane and informed. She was Macedonian, and we know extremely CLEARLY Macedonian because the tradition and law for the Ptolemies was for the king to marry his sister and "keep the blood line pure."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 06:49 PM (0hOvj)

43 If I want to watch a ridiculous Cleopatra movie, there is always Tezuka's anime movie.

Bet Netflix turns Julius into a sou-boi.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2023 06:49 PM (8bcdK)

44 OK so I'm a bit calmer now. Netflix removed a petition to stop the show over this ridiculous race swapping because it "violated their community standards"

https://tinyurl.com/mxansxtx
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 06:46 PM (0hOvj)

I'm sure the Egyptian government will be reallllllllyyyy happy about this.

Many of the Egyptians I've met are more Racist than anyone I've ever met in those pesky Ex Confederate States.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2023 06:49 PM (oHd/0)

45 Elon is to be on Tucker tonight, sad I will miss it, certainly one I would have watched.

Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2023 06:49 PM (xhxe8)

46 I sincerely hope Porter gets her ass handed to her in the senatorial primary in Cali. If so she'll be out of public office for a time as she isn't running for reelection to Congress. She is a nasty vile critter.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 17, 2023 06:49 PM (Uk8NJ)

47
I never liked Parler very much anyway. I gave it a couple tries but it just didn't work for me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 06:42 PM


But now whoever bought them and killed them has your name and email address - at least. You're on the list to someone and they're naming names. As am I, who thought they sucked.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 17, 2023 06:49 PM (enJYY)

48 >>>And the apple hasn't fallen far [from the tree]

I prefer the earthier version of that expression.

The turd hasn't fallen far from the asshole.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 17, 2023 06:51 PM (gv7Yb)

49 that wearing a mask while worshiping one's god and communing with other congregants is a simple, unobtrusive, giving way to protect others while still exercising your right to religious freedom," Superior Court Judge Evette D. Pennypacker

So.... Moslem?

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2023 06:51 PM (oHd/0)

50 "Which Hollywood dumbass thought it would be a good idea to cast an Israeli actress as Cleopatra (a very bland looking one) instead of a stunning Arab actress," asked journalist Sameera Khan. "Shame on you, Gal Gadot. Your country steals Arab land & you’re stealing their movie roles."

LOL Cleopatra wasn't Arabic either and Egypt is not ARABIC LAND. She was Greek (Macedonian) for the love of God, how idiotic can you get? Just shut your face holes hollywood and media. You know less than your purse puppy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 06:52 PM (0hOvj)

51 @44 Many of the Egyptians I've met are more Racist than anyone I've ever met in those pesky Ex Confederate States.

----

Frankly, that statement applies to most of the world outside of the US.

Posted by: junior at April 17, 2023 06:52 PM (5pnLd)

52 Here's a quick hit:
Fetterman showed up for work today at the Capital wearing baggy shorts, a sweatshirt and wearing sneakers.
I could not believe my eyes.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 17, 2023 06:52 PM (Y+l9t)

53 Tell me again how the "fascists" are on the "right", libs and lefties?

Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2023 06:53 PM (krQz2)

54 The left is nothing but defunding the police and censoring speech.

---------

Don't underestimate their historical skill and efficiency when it comes to mass forced starvation, death camps, and premature graves.

Posted by: ShainS -- The Abolition of The West is from Men Without Chests at April 17, 2023 06:53 PM (Q+M7t)

55 The need to turn Cleopatra black to give Ms Smith more content for her African Women show shows just how few actual black African women have been remarkable or meaningful in history

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 06:53 PM (0hOvj)

56 I have to ask. Darren Glines is obviously a pseudonym. But is it really Jonah Goldberg or Tom Nichols who is using it?

Posted by: Eeyore at April 17, 2023 06:53 PM (TgBWG)

57 Minneapolis will allow broadcasts of the Muslim call to prayer at all hours, becoming the first major U.S. city to allow the announcement or “adhan” to be heard over speakers five times a day, year-round.

No thanks. Sorry yer free to practice your religion. I do not need it blaring from loudspeakers. And before anyone says it, the church bells can stfu too.

This violates people's right to freedom FROM religion. The best way would have been to eliminate any loud outdoor sounds emanating from a house of worship.

They need to make an app for that. Those prayer calls can be very loud. Also why is this needed in this day and age? I get it when we didn't all have clocks and alarms on every damn thing so I disagree with this and I don't care what religion it's for. I equally hate them all LOL

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at April 17, 2023 06:53 PM (NCgXW)

58 >>Frankly, that statement applies to most of the world outside of the US.

India is absurdly racist. Try to immigrate to Japan. The US is one of the least racist countries on the face of the earth.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2023 06:54 PM (ZLI7S)

59 Wearing a yellow star is barely an inconvenience.
Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 06:46 PM (zpt1t)

Super easy!
Posted by: pookysgirl, quoting Ryan George at April 17, 2023 06:48 PM (dtlDP)


Yet ... and Hell will freeze over before I give this up ... I will not stop on this. Because I remember. Be it this vax, the anti-vax before that, masks, all the way back to the Patriot Act ... whatever.

All the same folks are either outlaws or patriots, in equal measure. Chasing patriots or outlaws. Because they are always right. And thus, our politics flows.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 06:54 PM (zpt1t)

60 “Which Hollywood dumbass thought it would be a good idea to cast an Israeli actress as Cleopatra (a very bland looking one) instead of a stunning Arab actress,” asked journalist Sameera Khan. “Shame on you, Gal Gadot. Your country steals Arab land & you’re stealing their movie roles.”
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 17, 2023 06:49 PM (fs1hN)
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If Hollywood wants Cleopatra to reflect the modern world, then casting an actual Egyptian would make sense. Why didn't they do that?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at April 17, 2023 06:54 PM (BpYfr)

61 What was it ever believed there were colleagues across the aisle? Comrades maybe, not coleagues, nevertheless esteemed.

Posted by: Eromero at April 17, 2023 06:54 PM (MF3yS)

62 This is the will of the majority represented by the State over the previously defined ( not the imagined) rights of private parties.

Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2023 06:54 PM (krQz2)

63 “Which Hollywood dumbass thought it would be a good idea to cast an Israeli actress as Cleopatra (a very bland looking one) instead of a stunning Arab actress,” asked journalist Sameera Khan.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 17, 2023 06:49 PM (fs1hN)

No doubt this will spark accusations of anti-Semitism in two different directions, but Elizabeth Taylor remains the iconic Cleopatra. Not even Charlton Heston could save a contemporary movie featuring a different actress.

Posted by: trev006 at April 17, 2023 06:54 PM (DTm0P)

64 Yes. In fact, that's quickly becoming the default position in America.
Posted by: bonhomme a


This is no small shift.
I was SHOCKED when the US locked down. I did not think it was possible

I was SHOCKED when the US started mandating paul vaccinate to protect Peter. That had never happened before.

OK, so they banned "misinformation" about the C19, but that was "emergency power." OK, they were getting away with a lot so why not this.

But a blanket ban on "hate speech" and "misinformation," supported by the BBC, is insane. Who defines the truth? Who is to say that every word spoken is not said in hate? It us just a side door into totalitarianism. And obviously so if anyone uses their brain. I guess I should not be surprised, but this is a big shift.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 06:55 PM (rDG9M)

65 Which Hollywood dumbass thought it would be a good idea to cast an Israeli actress as Cleopatra (a very bland looking one) instead of a stunning Arab actress,” asked journalist Sameera Khan. “Shame on you, Gal Gadot. Your country steals Arab land & you’re stealing their movie roles.”
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 17, 2023 06:49 PM (fs1hN)
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Hah! Gal Gadot is bland?!

Wishcasting.

Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2023 06:55 PM (krQz2)

66
Here's a quick hit:
Fetterman showed up for work today at the Capital wearing baggy shorts, a sweatshirt and wearing sneakers.
I could not believe my eyes.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 17, 2023 06:52 PM


The Pride of Pennsylvania, which 80% of Philadelphia residents voted for, ensuring his victory margin.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at April 17, 2023 06:55 PM (enJYY)

67 Gavin Newsome will be suing all the churches in California that violted his order, Didn't the big church in CA withe the well known pastor-whose name escapes me now-already get sued?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 06:56 PM (Keyt1)

68 "The government-corporate partnership between the Deep State and Twitter included giving the government free peaks at people's private direct messages to other people."

I'd heard there was a direct censorship back door for BigGov. Not a suggestion that the BigTech censor, but GigGov directly censoring. Not sure if it was Twit or FBor others ... but sounds right.

Their chips are All In. Those that might rise up and put them in prison for treason (or "sedition", for those that don't/won't see the direct conspiring with enemies while we are on a "war footing" against such terrorism) ... those threats to their insurrection and current junta must be destroyed using the full force of the administrative state (and any criminal cabals they are in bed with).

Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2023 06:57 PM (Cus5s)

69 Leonard Jeffries Part 6 was Bill Cosby's worst movie.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls - an election is simply a festival for the majority at April 17, 2023 06:57 PM (KFhLj)

70 At least Hollywood didn't cast a tranny as Cleopatra. I suppose I should say, yet.

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 17, 2023 06:57 PM (Uk8NJ)

71 "It should appear clear to all -- regardless of religious affiliation -- that wearing a mask while worshiping one's god and communing with other congregants is a simple, unobtrusive, giving way to protect others while still exercising your right to religious freedom," Superior Court Judge Evette D. Pennypacker wrote in the April 7 ruling imposing the fines.

"It's not The Mark of the Beast. You just can't buy or sell (or worship) without it."

I don't think this was the Mark, but it was a trial run for the Mark to see if humankind was ready for that level of coercion yet.

Posted by: Emmie at April 17, 2023 06:57 PM (Emce2)

72 Imagine Persis Khambata as Cleopatra.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 17, 2023 06:57 PM (8bcdK)

73 Who defines the truth?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 06:55 PM (rDG9M)
---
Funny thing is that I grew up with libs asking that question all the time. Turns out their under-the-breath answer is "When we get enough power, we do!"

But under Gentile's philosophy, the State does. And his political ideas became Italian Fascism.

Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2023 06:58 PM (krQz2)

74 This is no small shift. I was SHOCKED when the US locked down. I did not think it was possible.

I often wonder where you people grew up. When Meal Team Six drug out the big guns to raid a Texas bar ? I was not surprised at all.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 06:58 PM (zpt1t)

75 Aleman I am way over 29 and had high school teachers try to give me that bull shit

Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2023 06:58 PM (xhxe8)

76 >>This is no small shift.
I was SHOCKED when the US locked down. I did not think it was possible

It's because the DOD and Intel community were really in charge.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2023 06:58 PM (ZLI7S)

77 Is Gentile near Fragile??

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at April 17, 2023 06:59 PM (Vwz3I)

78 Gal Gadot may be a bland actress, not sure if she meet expectations of such a weighty role, assuming it is done right.

But NO WAY she is bland looking. Dude needs his eyes checked.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 17, 2023 06:59 PM (fs1hN)

79 >>>The left is nothing but defunding the police and censoring speech.

Don't forget about the trannies. And the child grooming. I could go on.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 17, 2023 06:59 PM (gv7Yb)

80 Gavin Newsome will be suing all the churches in California that violted his order, Didn't the big church in CA withe the well known pastor-whose name escapes me now-already get sued?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 06:56 PM (Keyt1)
---
That's the one-way Wall of Separation for you.

Odd that it only works the way the State decides.

Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2023 06:59 PM (krQz2)

81
Cleopatra was clearly Greek.
Everyone is in,
wrong argument

https://youtu.be/NY7N02eZGoQ
Parody cute song

Posted by: zigzag at April 17, 2023 06:59 PM (H2O7K)

82 But NO WAY she is bland looking. Dude needs his eyes checked.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 17, 2023 06:59 PM (fs1hN)
---
It's Arab wishcasting.

Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2023 06:59 PM (krQz2)

83 "This is no small shift. I was SHOCKED when the US locked down. I did not think it was possible."

But selective shut down. Small Biz killed, BigBox open.
Street riots by BLM AOK, going to church a criminal act.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2023 07:00 PM (Cus5s)

84 a blanket ban on "hate speech" and "misinformation," supported by the BBC, is insane. Who defines the truth? Who is to say that every word spoken is not said in hate? It us just a side door into totalitarianism. And obviously so if anyone uses their brain. I guess I should not be surprised, but this is a big shift.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest

Great Britain is lost.They arrest people for silently praying. Not even saying anything out loud. They let Muslim rape gangs groom and rape young girls because they were afraid to arrest the perpetrators. They are arresting and incarcerating people for voicing beliefs that conflict with the government narrative.
Oh, wait, so are we.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 17, 2023 07:00 PM (Y+l9t)

85 People just need to realize that, if they are making Bill Maher and Piers Morgan sound intelligent, they are REALLY REALLY stupid. Not just normal stupid, but gold plated, head two feet up your ass, barely qualifying as a member of the vegetable kingdom stupid.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 17, 2023 07:00 PM (TgBWG)

86 Oh, yes, I remembered his name now, Pastor John MacArthur. His church was open pretty quickly, all things considered.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 07:00 PM (Keyt1)

87 No Fat Man-Chicks

Posted by: wth at April 17, 2023 07:00 PM (v0R5T)

88 Cleopatra was clearly Greek.
Everyone is in,
wrong argument

https://youtu.be/NY7N02eZGoQ
Parody cute song
Posted by: zigzag at April 17, 2023 06:59 PM (H2O7K
---
Although she could have had a dark tan from living in Egypt.

I think her family was Macedonian.

Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2023 07:00 PM (krQz2)

89 83 "This is no small shift. I was SHOCKED when the US locked down. I did not think it was possible."

But selective shut down. Small Biz killed, BigBox open.
Street riots by BLM AOK, going to church a criminal act.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2023 07:00 PM (Cus5s)

The US has always picked winners and losers.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2023 07:01 PM (rJ7Hd)

90 I really don't think a single person alive is surprised to hear that the government could see their DMs. I guess it is kind of important to have official word of it, but who didn't think so already?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:01 PM (0hOvj)

91 Are we really in a world where people think we need to ban "hate speech" and "misinformation?"

Great. I want to see a complete and total end to all of the hate speech towards Christians.

I demand the government ends its own jihad against Christianity by proselytizing their religion of secularism, Big Bang, DIE, homosexuality, "transgenderism", Climate Change™ The SCIENCE!™ and other systems of hate speech and misinformation that is clearly antithetical and willfully antagonistic to orthodox Christianity.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:01 PM (YXHzG)

92 53 Tell me again how the "fascists" are on the "right", libs and lefties?

Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2023 06:53 PM (krQz2)

++++

They don't even know the meaning of the word. Literally, they don't know.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at April 17, 2023 07:01 PM (gv7Yb)

93 Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 06:55 PM (rDG9M)

The biggest shock was when the Supreme Court said, yer on yer own. Would not even LOOK at the facts or science, but said they would not intervene during an 'emergency'.

So, you have no rights, if the Government decides, just on their own, that there is an emergency and can then take your rights... WITH NO PETITION FOR REDRESS.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 17, 2023 07:02 PM (oHd/0)

94 Everyone, please stop referring to sane and rational and patriotic and reality-based speech as "Speech the left finds distasteful." Call it what it really is!

Dissident speech. Truthful speech. Life affirming speech. Rational speech!

Posted by: Beverly at April 17, 2023 07:02 PM (Epeb0)

95 you can't spell "blame" without "BLM"

Posted by: REDACTED at April 17, 2023 07:03 PM (us2H3)

96 Greasy communist Gavin Newsom is a vile human being.

Posted by: That Northern skulker at April 17, 2023 07:03 PM (yyfQG)

97 And for Pete's sake quit calling it misinformation and hate speech! Unless you are working for the other side, that is. Seriously, we have to stop using their terms for anything because we keep losing the linguistic battle.

Posted by: Beverly at April 17, 2023 07:03 PM (Epeb0)

98 The biggest shock was when the Supreme Court said, yer on yer own. Would not even LOOK at the facts or science, but said they would not intervene during an 'emergency'.

Don't blame the anti-federalists. They tried to tell you.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:04 PM (zpt1t)

99 I don't think this was the Mark, but it was a trial run for the Mark to see if humankind was ready for that level of coercion yet.

Clearly it wasn't for if the Premillennial Dispensationalists were correct, they all would have been a few years into their seven year party.

Isn't the Rapture supposed to happen before the Tribulation?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:05 PM (YXHzG)

100 If I am not mistaken Cleopatra was the sixth or seventh of that name. She was a direct descendant of Ptolemy, one of Alexander s generals

Posted by: Smell the Glove at April 17, 2023 07:06 PM (Uk8NJ)

101 Imagine Persis Khambata as Cleopatra.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Imagine Whoopi.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at April 17, 2023 07:06 PM (FVME7)

102 I know some Jews would find this shocking and scandalous but there's not a whole lot of difference between Arabs and Jews physically speaking. Even if Egypt was an Arabic country, and even if Cleopatra was Arabic, it wouldn't matter if an Israeli played her.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:06 PM (0hOvj)

103 hate and disinformation that threaten our communities and foundational values as a country
Dude, YOU'RE the one doing THAT.

Posted by: GWB at April 17, 2023 07:06 PM (NJ9MR)

104 Tell me again how the "fascists" are on the "right", libs and lefties?

Thank a prior generation. The one that defined communism as left, and fascism as right.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:06 PM (zpt1t)

105 Everyone knows that everything that has happened since the Patriot Act has been an evolution of evil leading to the eventual tyrannical rule of the global government, a complete collapse of human rights, one tightly controlled digital currency and a world military that will make the Roman Empire look like the local paintballers, right?

The question is only when the other shoe drops.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2023 07:06 PM (rJ7Hd)

106 The US has always picked winners and losers.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2023 07:01 PM


Don't blame us..........

Posted by: Wickard v. Filburn at April 17, 2023 07:07 PM (ncXxy)

107 I think I thought the panic was over C19

Now I am not sure but I know we have lost all connection to rule of law that existed before hand.

Western society is done.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 07:07 PM (rDG9M)

108 This trans woke nonsense has become a cancer.
God help us and save us-

Female teacher fired, forced to apologize after saying ‘good afternoon, girls’ to students: report


"The students — 11-year-olds at an expensive private school in the U.K. managed by the prestigious Girls’ Day School Trust — were reportedly displeased after the teacher addressed them with a "good afternoon, girls," at the beginning of a lesson."

"Some of the students told the teacher that "not everyone here identifies as female," with others later writing their names and pronouns on the board for the teacher’s edification."


https://tinyurl.com/3tm92kkb

Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2023 07:08 PM (NpAcC)

109 quit calling it misinformation and hate speech
____

how about these instead?

misinformation = contra-narrative

hate speech = disfavored speech

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 17, 2023 07:08 PM (fs1hN)

110 She was a direct descendant of Ptolemy, one of Alexander s generals

And by direct, her family tree is a broomstick.

Isn't the Rapture supposed to happen before the Tribulation?

Depends, there's a lot of systems and schemes out there with different timelines. I don't figure anyone has it right, any more than they did the first time Jesus came.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:08 PM (0hOvj)

111 86 Oh, yes, I remembered his name now, Pastor John MacArthur. His church was open pretty quickly, all things considered.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 07:00 PM (Keyt1)

Pretty much called out the State of Cali on their iron fist too

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 17, 2023 07:08 PM (/6GbT)

112 Now I am not sure but I know we have lost all connection to rule of law that existed before hand.

You live in a country that was only held together by force. Start there. Then start reading through dictates that literally apply law differently based upon race and implied intent.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:10 PM (zpt1t)

113 Female teacher fired, forced to apologize after saying ‘good afternoon, girls’ to students: report
___

Surviving Mao struggle sessions.
Rule 1- never apologize

Posted by: Chuck Martel at April 17, 2023 07:10 PM (fs1hN)

114 Everyone knows that everything that has happened since the Patriot Act has been an evolution of evil leading to the eventual tyrannical rule of the global government, a complete collapse of human rights, one tightly controlled digital currency and a world military that will make the Roman Empire look like the local paintballers, right?

For those that are Biblically minded, may I remind y'all that God's judgement against Babel did not come with sunset language. Furthermore, for the Dispensationalists here, aren't there supposed to be many kings? How does a One World Government, emphasis on One manage to have a massive Armageddon battle where various kings come together and fight it out?

Y'all need to make up your mind.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:10 PM (YXHzG)

115 ZOD IMPERIAL.

Posted by: ZOD at April 17, 2023 07:10 PM (Q/6pY)

116 Pretty much called out the State of Cali on their iron fist too
Posted by: A dude in MI at April 17, 2023 07:08 PM (/6GbT)

Yes; I admired his gumption.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 07:11 PM (Keyt1)

117 Leave your pronouns at the door

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 17, 2023 07:11 PM (/6GbT)

118 Dissident speech. Truthful speech. Life affirming speech. Rational speech!
Posted by: Beverly at April 17, 2023 07:02 PM (Epeb0)

It's even gender-affirming speech!

Posted by: GWB at April 17, 2023 07:11 PM (NJ9MR)

119 Posted by: ZOD at April 17, 2023 07:10 PM (Q/6pY)

Hi, Zod. How's the margarine business lately, and how are you feeling?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 07:12 PM (Keyt1)

120 ANNOUNCEMENT:

The sister-in-law of ZOD has had a stroke. It is the type of stroke that will not kill her.

Nevertheless, burn incense and sacrifice rams. Do this now.

Posted by: ZOD at April 17, 2023 07:12 PM (Q/6pY)

121 "Isn't the Rapture supposed to happen before the Tribulation?" Posted by: Reuben Hick

yes. I may be "weak in faith", but I'm counting on (hoping for) that part. heh. But absolutely according to the Bible the (true) Christians do not go through the tribulation.

It would be kinda cool to come back on one of those white horses in judgement ... I'm sure that must be allegorical ... but in any case, would be a nice ride.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2023 07:12 PM (Cus5s)

122 So this kid that "Rang the wrong Doorbell" their are reports that he entered the house and then shot? and this 80yr old man is now going to jail.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 17, 2023 07:13 PM (dKiJG)

123 Pastor John MacArthur. His church was open pretty quickly, all things considered.

I heard his summary of events message where Dr MacArthur revealed how much the congregation grew, how many new ministries began, how much additional spiritual growth occurred, and how deep the relationships grew among the congregation.

The California government, representing the forces of Hell were confronted with the Power of the Living God who blessed the faithful and gave them courage and strength during their ongoing tribulation with the demonic State.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:13 PM (YXHzG)

124 the settlement that the families of the Sutherland mass shooting and the DOJ doesn't seem to be getting any attention

DOJ agreeing to pay the families 144 million for not updating the background files

which would have prevented the perp from buying the weapon he used

that's a 144 million that was taken from the US taxpayers

thanks DOJ

Posted by: REDACTED at April 17, 2023 07:13 PM (us2H3)

125 ‘The left is nothing but defunding the police and censoring speech.’

LIAR!

It’s also about looting the Treasury for profit and a slush fund to pay parasites to vote for them.
And about unleashing these feral animals on the nation to intimidate,
And about using the force of law to force their degenerate world view on everyone else,
And … a whole host of shitty sociopathalogical things.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 17, 2023 07:13 PM (IL7U6)

126 Nevertheless, burn incense and sacrifice rams. Do this now.
Posted by: ZOD at April 17, 2023 07:12 PM (Q/6pY)

Rending of garments and sackcloth?

Posted by: A dude in MI at April 17, 2023 07:14 PM (/6GbT)

127
"Some of the students told the teacher that "not everyone here identifies as female," with others later writing their names and pronouns on the board for the teacher’s edification."


https://tinyurl.com/3tm92kkb
Posted by: redridinghood

But Putin is the crazy one.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 07:14 PM (rDG9M)

128 That's the one-way Wall of Separation for you.

Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2023 06:59 PM (krQz2)

And never forget that one of the biggest lies of Progressivism is that - because they have no "mythical" god - they aren't a religion. It was never a "wall of separation" except for Christianity.

Posted by: GWB at April 17, 2023 07:14 PM (NJ9MR)

129 Posted by: ZOD at April 17, 2023 07:12 PM (Q/6pY)

I can't afford a ram, and incense doesn't agree with her. I will do religious rituals that I normally do, however, I am sorry your sister has had a stroke.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 07:14 PM (Keyt1)

130 Greek (Macedonian) for the love of God, how idiotic can you get? Just shut your face holes hollywood and media. You know less than your purse puppy
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 06:52 PM (0hOvj)

**********

Wrong. Cleopatra was a Nubian princess who flew around Africa in her airplane, fighting the evil Snow Peoples.

Posted by: Professor Leonard Jeffries at April 17, 2023 07:14 PM (xxG/v)

131 The Bible states that Christians will suffer tribulation, persecution and hatred, repeatedly in both the old and new Testaments. We're pretty much prepared for the idea that its on its way if not already upon us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:14 PM (0hOvj)

132 >>Rending of garments and sackcloth?
Posted by: A dude in MI at April 17, 2023 07:14 PM (/6GbT)

And ashes. This is assumed.

Posted by: ZOD at April 17, 2023 07:15 PM (Q/6pY)

133 Sorry; Doesn't agree with "me", not her. I don' know if sister of Zod lights incense.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 07:15 PM (Keyt1)

134 >>I can't afford a ram, and incense doesn't agree with her. I will do religious rituals that I normally do, however, I am sorry your sister has had a stroke.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 07:14 PM (Keyt1)

No.

Posted by: ZOD at April 17, 2023 07:15 PM (Q/6pY)

135 Sorry to hear of your sister's stroke, Zod. That's heartbreaking.

May the Lord watch over her, heal her and keep you and yours.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2023 07:16 PM (rJ7Hd)

136 Wrong. Cleopatra was a Nubian princess who flew around Africa in her airplane, fighting the evil Snow Peoples.

Well, that was before the Greeks stole all their technology and ideas and somehow removed them from Africa so no traces remained and everyone forgot how to do it all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:16 PM (0hOvj)

137 Nevertheless, burn incense and sacrifice rams. Do this now.
Posted by: ZOD

I do not have a ram. I will roam the house looking for arachnids to spray with burning chemicals. Hope this helps.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 07:17 PM (rDG9M)

138 England never has had a 1st Amendment rights. To me they started in the western world with this hate speech crap.

Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2023 07:17 PM (xhxe8)

139 wearing a mask while worshiping one's god ... is ... still exercising your right to religious freedom," Superior Court Judge Evette D. Pennypacker wrote

Well, according to the law and precedent, YOU DON"T GET TO DEFINE THAT, "Judge".

Posted by: GWB at April 17, 2023 07:17 PM (NJ9MR)

140 Depends, there's a lot of systems and schemes out there with different timelines. I don't figure anyone has it right, any more than they did the first time Jesus came.


Its sort of fun watching the Post Millennials spar with the Dispies who will band together to hate the Amillennials and yet all of them will join forces to declare the Preterists as heretics.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:17 PM (YXHzG)

141 Ooo, I do love a rapture debate. Pre-trib, post-trib, mid-trib, no-trib.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2023 07:17 PM (rJ7Hd)

142 Posted by: ZOD at April 17, 2023 07:15 PM (Q/6pY)

Yes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 07:18 PM (Keyt1)

143
magine Persis Khambata as Cleopatra.
Posted by: Anna Puma

Imagine Whoopi.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


LIZZO

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2023 07:18 PM (63Dwl)

144 Something I read today cracked me up. In part of the Sahara they discovered cave paintings (mostly about people making whoopie based on the ones they showed in the article). This was described as "humanity's first civilization" 14,000 years ago.

Painting on a wall don't make a civilization, you numbskulls.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:18 PM (0hOvj)

145 The Bible states that Christians will suffer tribulation, persecution and hatred, repeatedly in both the old and new Testaments. We're pretty much prepared for the idea that its on its way if not already upon us.

Why simply lay back and try to enjoy it ? Seriously. Persecute, tribulate, and hate right back.

Has it ever occurred to any of you that Revelation - if its really prophecy - is just spring camp ? For the Old Ball Coach to harden your asses up before the real hitting begins.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:18 PM (zpt1t)

146 *glances at his watch again*

Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 17, 2023 07:19 PM (k1Qly)

147 122 So this kid that "Rang the wrong Doorbell" their are reports that he entered the house and then shot? and this 80yr old man is now going to jail.
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio

"knocked"
at "family friend"
Instead of texting as he drove up. This was obviously a robbery from the first report.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 07:20 PM (rDG9M)

148 Its sort of fun watching the Post Millennials spar with the Dispies who will band together to hate the Amillennials and yet all of them will join forces to declare the Preterists as heretics.

Yeah like I said, I think when Jesus returns, we're all gonna be really surprised at how it turns out -- how wrong we all were and how right the other guys were. All's I know is God wins in the end.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:20 PM (0hOvj)

149 >>May the Lord watch over her, heal her and keep you and yours. Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2023 07:16 PM (rJ7Hd)

Thank you. I am overwatch.

Posted by: ZOD at April 17, 2023 07:20 PM (Q/6pY)

150 Dang.
Katie Porter is a textbook definition of dullard.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 17, 2023 07:20 PM (anj39)

151 Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2023 07:17 PM (rJ7Hd)

I probably understood all these terms at some point, but now I'm too old to bother-much less to fight about it. I believe the Messiah was predicted, he came,in Jesus and then came back again in the Holy Spirit and will return again. That's all of the theology I need to know.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 07:20 PM (Keyt1)

152 Cleopatra may have been Macedonian, but she really looks Sicilian in the images based on her statues

Posted by: Kindltot at April 17, 2023 07:20 PM (xhaym)

153 "Isn't the Rapture supposed to happen before the Tribulation? --- Depends, there's a lot of systems and schemes out there with different timelines. I don't figure anyone has it right, any more than they did the first time Jesus came." Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Well that question is a 50/50 chance of being right. I'd count on those inserting the most fear being wrong. FEAR is the tool of the enemy (fear global warming, fear the pandemic, fear white supremacy).

The Bible means we can be right if we study. Institutions will try to misdirect us (including institutional "Christianity". The Bible story of Jesus' time is that the institutional church was out of touch ... in OT there always remained a remnant (at least).

Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2023 07:20 PM (Cus5s)

154 Quick hit, I see Beverly is reciting my standard rant here.

There is no such thing as "hate speech", or a "hate crime" - obviously. To do anything but reject this absurd unconstitutional anti-American totalitarian garbage, instantly and always, is to endorse it.

But there seem to be no adults left in the US, including all of the potential alternatives to the toxic cretins currently ruining it.

And of course such things would have been harshly laughed off the stage in heritage America, and been vaporized by the first court that touched them. Now?

Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2023 07:21 PM (OTzUX)

155 Why simply lay back and try to enjoy it ? Seriously. Persecute, tribulate, and hate right back.

Fight back, don't fight back, its coming one way or another. Whether its time or proper to fight is another story. Maybe we should, maybe we should not. But its coming and is already among us in the world. Christians are by population at least the number one most persecuted religious group on earth already. Its spreading around the world and peeking up around the edges in supposedly free western culture.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:21 PM (0hOvj)

156 This violates people's right to freedom FROM religion.

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at April 17, 2023 06:53 PM (NCgXW)

Ain't no such thing. And one religion (not the Progressive one, and not the sandy one) is the entire basis of Western Civilization (that gives you freedom) and can't survive without it being the dominant one.

Posted by: GWB at April 17, 2023 07:21 PM (NJ9MR)

157 wearing a mask while worshiping one's god ... is ... still exercising your right to religious freedom," Superior Court Judge Evette D. Pennypacker wrote

Its a straw man argument. The issue of forced wearing of masks had to do with personal liberties, where the Government could dictate and expect perfect obedience in matters.

This was about government proclaiming sovereignty over We The People. If the government can mandate, with the threat of the police powers of the State to wear a mask, they can also require a gimp suit, or mandate castration.

The State declared itself to be sovereign and above all other powers - it completely takes the US Constitution and inverts it declaring that all power comes from government not by the consent of the governed.

The judge has absolutely no relationship or friendship with the Charter and Mission statement of the United States. The judge is a usurper, fraud and totalitarian.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:22 PM (YXHzG)

158 152 Cleopatra may have been Macedonian, but she really looks Sicilian in the images based on her statues
Posted by: Kindltot at April 17, 2023 07:20 PM (xhaym)

Sicily has been occupied by Greeks at time and frankly most Mediterranean peoples look kind of similar.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 17, 2023 07:22 PM (eYoxG)

159 >>I do not have a ram. I will roam the house looking for arachnids to spray with burning chemicals. Hope this helps.Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 07:17 PM (rDG9M)

It does. Everyone but the weird hate spiders. Your generosity is noticed in the Large Book of Kindness.

Posted by: ZOD at April 17, 2023 07:23 PM (Q/6pY)

160 Dull lard.

Posted by: wth at April 17, 2023 07:23 PM (v0R5T)

161 Cleopatra may have been Macedonian, but she really looks Sicilian in the images based on her statues

The only contemporary image we have that is probably her is not particularly attractive (as you'd expect from an inbred princess) but she was supposedly very bright and charming and seductive, and she would have been considered exotic to the Romans. All that adds up to a compelling person even if she's not a supermodel.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:23 PM (0hOvj)

162 I demand the government ends its own jihad against Christianity by proselytizing their religion of secularism, Big Bang, DIE, homosexuality, "transgenderism", Climate Change™ The SCIENCE!™ and other systems of hate speech and misinformation that is clearly antithetical and willfully antagonistic to orthodox Christianity.

Tye Big Bang Theory was developed by a Catholic Priest. He also derived the Hubble Constant before Hubble. He had the misfortune to publish in a small Belgian journal.

Posted by: Fox2! at April 17, 2023 07:23 PM (jf6Id)

163 Sorry to hear of your sister's stroke, Zod. That's heartbreaking.

May the Lord watch over her, heal her and keep you and yours.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2023 07:16 PM (rJ7Hd)
******
Ditto.
Sending prayers.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2023 07:23 PM (NpAcC)

164 It's funny how much Cleopatra looked like Elizabeth Taylor.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2023 07:24 PM (rJ7Hd)

165 This was about government proclaiming sovereignty over We The People. If the government can mandate, with the threat of the police powers of the State to wear a mask, they can also require a gimp suit, or mandate castration.

The State declared itself to be sovereign and above all other powers - it completely takes the US Constitution and inverts it declaring that all power comes from government not by the consent of the governed.

The judge has absolutely no relationship or friendship with the Charter and Mission statement of the United States. The judge is a usurper, fraud and totalitarian.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:22 PM (YXHzG)
***

I was trying to formulate a response to this. You have done it far better than I.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 17, 2023 07:24 PM (anj39)

166 There is the joke about the Frenchman, the Englishman and the Russian who explained what they would do if the world ended the next day (The Russian was going to burn down his neighbor's house)

When asked I suggest that people continue to live as always because if the day after tomorrow comes, you will want clean laundry and neighbors who are willing to talk to you

Posted by: Kindltot at April 17, 2023 07:24 PM (xhaym)

167 Its spreading around the world and peeking up around the edges in supposedly free western culture.

There are three essential things to maintain Western Civilization, and to which is the only system that can support billions of people living on the earth:

• Guns
• Printing Press
• Calvinism

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:24 PM (YXHzG)

168 "The Bible states that Christians will suffer tribulation, persecution and hatred, repeatedly in both the old and new Testaments. We're pretty much prepared for the idea that its on its way if not already upon us."

Been 40+ years since I really looked at it, but the regular persecution is not the same as The Tribulation of Revelation. There is a timeline laid out ... gathering together of saints before the Great Tribulation. (not sure if "Great Tribulation" is right exactly, but something like that.)

Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2023 07:25 PM (Cus5s)

169 The freedom of conscience has always been a part of our system, its an unstated thing in the constitution but it is heavily implied and the founders (as well as their intellectual forebears) all wrote extensively on the concept. It was long a freedom in England, if unequally protected.

So you have the freedom from having any faith imposed on you from the outside, you can believe and think as you will, under the US system. But that does not ban the expressions of religious belief by others.

I'd allow some wailing dork to yell out the call to Prayer to Muslims, but at a limited volume, no louder than church bells.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:26 PM (0hOvj)

170 Fight back, don't fight back, its coming one way or another.

For shits sake. Chris - ever wonder why you have a problem recruiting ? Because who in their right mind wants to be a fucking lamb.

You are so tuned in, personally, that you must suffer - that you will suffer come Hell or high water.

What higher power - if one exists - would bother ? Show some will. A higher power just might make his creations suffer - for decades, if not generations, until the limp-wristed ones finally die out - making room for others willing to do something other than meekly suffer.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:26 PM (zpt1t)

171
lay back and try to enjoy it ?

Posted by: Tailor

That's what I always say! (hic.)

Posted by: Tex Antoine at April 17, 2023 07:27 PM (rDG9M)

172 Bet there is a drum beat next to those porno cave paintings
Call Mary Lou bang 7 loud then 3 soft then 5 loud drum beats for a good time

Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2023 07:27 PM (xhxe8)

173 157
‘The judge is a usurper, fraud and totalitarian.‘
And therefore has no claim to compliance or deference.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at April 17, 2023 07:27 PM (IL7U6)

174 I talked to my neighbor once. She wanted to put a fence gate into my front yard from her driveway.
Odd.

Posted by: wth at April 17, 2023 07:27 PM (v0R5T)

175 Watching Dem politicians like this loathsome lard ass Porter woman slobber all over themselves defending trans madness is really embarrassing to watch. This woman is a large gooey mass of pathetic.

Riley Gaines is a brave and very attractive young woman who is calling out this crap, so of course this virtue signaling fat ass is going to hate her.

Posted by: UGAdawg at April 17, 2023 07:28 PM (tRd71)

176 I saw some snow gees flying with a flock of Canadian geese today. I was quite surprised.
There was about a hundred Canadians and three snow geese/

Usually when we see snow geese it means we will be seeing some nasty weather. Forecast is for snow tonight.

It never sticks in April. Probably won't stick in May, either.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 17, 2023 07:28 PM (xhaym)

177 I'm still laughing about REI quitting Portland.

Poetic justice.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2023 07:28 PM (sWM8x)

178 For shits sake. Chris - ever wonder why you have a problem recruiting ? Because who in their right mind wants to be a fucking lamb.

Its not a club or an army. People are saved by the doing and dying of Jesus Christ, not clever schemes and persuasive techniques. We don't "recruit," we spread the gospel -- the truth -- and some believe, others do not.

It doesn't matter how much you like it. It only matters if its true or not.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:28 PM (0hOvj)

179 162 "I demand the government ends its own jihad against Christianity by proselytizing their religion of secularism, Big Bang, DIE, homosexuality, "transgenderism", Climate Change™ The SCIENCE!™ and other systems of hate speech and misinformation that is clearly antithetical and willfully antagonistic to orthodox Christianity."

The Big Bang Theory was developed by a Catholic Priest. He also derived the Hubble Constant before Hubble. He had the misfortune to publish in a small Belgian journal.
Posted by: Fox2! at April 17, 2023 07:23 PM (jf6Id)

Yeah the old atheist model was a perfectly static universe (therefore no longer requiring a beginning to solve the first mover issue). Also atheists held that we lived in an entirely deterministic universe(no free will).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 17, 2023 07:28 PM (eYoxG)

180 At this rate, Washington will revert back to nature with druggies and hippies living in the overgrowth.

Kind of like Detroit, but with more druggies.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 17, 2023 07:30 PM (rJ7Hd)

181
I'd allow some wailing dork to yell out the call to Prayer to Muslims, but at a limited volume, no louder than church bells.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Nah. islam is a violent insurrection against Western civilization. It needs to be banned in all public forms as "incitement to violence."

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 07:30 PM (rDG9M)

182 Yeah the old atheist model was a perfectly static universe

Yeah some still hold to the eternal universe theory because that way they don't need an uncreated creator. But no evidence supports this theory, its just something they need to cling to in order to maintain their worldview.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:30 PM (0hOvj)

183 Tinker, TAILOR, Soldier, ScoggDog. Yawn!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2023 07:31 PM (Keyt1)

184 169 The freedom of conscience has always been a part of our system, its an unstated thing in the constitution but it is heavily implied and the founders (as well as their intellectual forebears) all wrote extensively on the concept. It was long a freedom in England, if unequally protected.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:26 PM (0hOvj)

It hadn't really been around that long in England. Much like the French, they arrived there by fighting over it until everyone got sick and tired of the conflict. The rather hodge podge mix of religions in the US made a single church unrealistic from the beginning.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 17, 2023 07:31 PM (eYoxG)

185 It doesn't matter how much you like it. It only matters if its true or not.

Repeating yourself convinces nobody. But dude, if you are dead set on suffering ? Then suffer.

I'll keep shooting and farming. But do you. Why not take up sky-diving ? Other than cajoling others to suffer with you ?

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:32 PM (zpt1t)

186 Why don't they do a movie about the Queen of Sheba, she was black. She had an affair with King Solomon and had a son with him.

Posted by: Gwenn at April 17, 2023 07:32 PM (9Gr7n)

187 according to the Bible the (true) Christians do not go through the tribulation.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2023 07:12 PM (Cus5s)

Based on The Revelation of John, I'm gonna have to disagree with that. But it would take some theology and a lot of Scripture to detail why. And would be a giant religious debate.

Posted by: GWB at April 17, 2023 07:32 PM (NJ9MR)

188 I'd allow some wailing dork to yell out the call to Prayer to Muslims, but at a limited volume, no louder than church bells.

I believe this is where Christians go wrong. If a Christian truly believes In Christ Alone, then everything else is a false god and represents enmity with God.

Enmity with God brings about devastating pathologies, which includes social and cultural deterioration. It was Western Christianity that took a global population that was stagnant at around a half billion to where we are and very well could double if not for the handiwork of miseotheist Malthusians who are crippling every effort to promote human flourishing.

Tolerating Islam in your camp is to invite the wrath of God, or did not the myriad of examples in Scripture not convey this simple Cause & Effect?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:32 PM (YXHzG)

189 " I demand the government ends its own jihad against Christianity by proselytizing their religion of secularism, Big Bang, DIE, homosexuality, "transgenderism", Climate Change™ The SCIENCE!™ and other systems of hate speech and misinformation that is clearly antithetical and willfully antagonistic to orthodox Christianity."

JJ had some link a week or so back, about Satanism not being a religion, it is an "anti-religion". It denies male and female, it denies everything Christian. It says "you shall be as gods", determining your own sex/nonsex.

It is a hate for Liberty and the sovereign choice of the individual. (not pro-choice, they want to force all to comply). ... When Satan deceived Eve, it was to get her to disobey God. "The thief cometh not but for to steal, kill, and destroy".

This is pretty clear with the hateful left ... "Destroy the West". (and the color revolutions are about setting people at war with each other, not uniting anyone)

Posted by: illiniwek at April 17, 2023 07:32 PM (Cus5s)

190 At this rate, Washington will revert back to nature with druggies and hippies living in the overgrowth.
........

Bigfoot will have plenty to eat.

Posted by: wth at April 17, 2023 07:32 PM (v0R5T)

191 Bravo, Reuben!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at April 17, 2023 07:33 PM (1WdLY)

192 The AI thing is something I've been saying for a while; rebellious bots or whatever aren't nearly as troubling as loyal bots who answer to an aloof cabal that openly pines for massive population reduction and unrestrained social experiments for their own sake.

Posted by: CppThis at April 17, 2023 07:33 PM (PZvjL)

193 Nah. islam is a violent insurrection against Western civilization. It needs to be banned in all public forms as "incitement to violence."

I think there's a valid argument to that, but its a tough line to draw. Buddhism is pretty destructive to western civilization, too but should it be banned? Hinduism? Zoroastrism? Truthfully only Judaism and Christianity are compatible with western civilization, everything else is damaging to it. But we cannot ban religions just because they are challenging to our current system.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:33 PM (0hOvj)

194 We haven't got to peak stupid yet, Just read in England at a girl's school a teacher said Good morning girl's and was fired as not all the girl's might be identified as females so miss gendering someone.

Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2023 07:33 PM (xhxe8)

195 Your generosity is noticed in the Large Book of Kindness.
Posted by: ZOD

So I got that going for me, which is nice.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 07:34 PM (rDG9M)

196 I'll keep shooting and farming. But do you. Why not take up sky-diving ? Other than cajoling others to suffer with you ?
Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:32 PM (zpt1t)


Are you back to being tough again? Good for you. I hate your philosophical phases.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 17, 2023 07:34 PM (xhaym)

197 Nood, dudes

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at April 17, 2023 07:35 PM (oWBc3)

198 Old and busted AI revolt trigger: Open the pod bay doors, HAL

New hotness AI revolt trigger: Open the germ warfare doors to save Mother Earth from the nasty humanses, HAL

Posted by: CppThis at April 17, 2023 07:36 PM (PZvjL)

199 Tolerating Islam in your camp is to invite the wrath of God, or did not the myriad of examples in Scripture not convey this simple Cause & Effect?

Tolerating Islam is to tolerate those willing to die for faith, and take you with them.

For all of Chris Taylor's talk - Western Christians have always been reliable to fight either with you or against you - but honor whatever team they are on, and to win.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:36 PM (zpt1t)

200 according to the Bible the (true) Christians do not go through the tribulation.

Which disciple of our LORD got it easy? (answer: they all got received the wrath of the State). Foxe's Book of Martyrs, the first century persecution of the Church, the six million and counting Christians butchered in the last decade by Muslims.

I'm sort of curious as to why The Tribulation™ is defined as experiencing some inconvenience and discomfort by spoiled 21st century Westerners.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:36 PM (YXHzG)

201 But we cannot ban religions just because they are challenging to our current system.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:33 PM (0hOvj)

Countries got by on doing this for a long time.

But practically speaking in a very multi-religious society, you can have a group of recognized churches with legal rights and obligations that could additionally approve new membership or the like or collectively expel a denomination. We're not the first country to deal with this issue.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 17, 2023 07:37 PM (eYoxG)

202 I think there's a valid argument to that, but its a tough line to draw. Buddhism is pretty destructive to western civilization, too but should it be banned? Hinduism? Zoroastrism?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor a


I didn't say banned, I said banned in public displays, such as the call to prayer (which is really a claim over the land where it is heard.)

Admittedly that is also a tough line to draw. So the mass prayers in the parks, or the call to prayer, or the propaganda can be banned but people can believe, and gather, as they wish. That is our way.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 07:37 PM (rDG9M)

203 94, 97, this!

and quit calling it capitalism, marx himself invented that word!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at April 17, 2023 07:37 PM (1WdLY)

204 I believe this is where Christians go wrong. If a Christian truly believes In Christ Alone, then everything else is a false god and represents enmity with God.

Its one of the most basic Christian ethics to live peacefully with unbelievers. Its inevitable in life, and often a Christian can expect to be outnumbered wherever they are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 07:37 PM (0hOvj)

205 For all of Chris Taylor's talk - Western Christians have always been reliable to fight either with you or against you - but honor whatever team they are on, and to win.

I believe you are conflating Nominal/Cultural Christianity with the Elect/Remnant.

The former Loves Jesus but it is hard to tell from their words and deeds; the latter lets you know daily by their words and deeds who they glorify.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:38 PM (YXHzG)

206 Another approach - which I thought Sweden should have followed to appease the Turks - is to ban hate speech.

This will doubly protect the koran from burning, since burning is a from of hate speech, but also since the koran would be banned in Sweden as a document of hate against other religions.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 07:41 PM (rDG9M)

207 But we cannot ban religions just because they are challenging to our current system.

Chris - nobody illustrates the old, losing Republicanism quite like you.

Yes - Islam should have been banned, post 9/11. Because just like Communism - a school of thought dedicated to one's own destruction does not have to be tolerated. Survival of the fittest. First test is having the collective will to survive.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:42 PM (zpt1t)

208 The homeowner who allegedly shot a black teen in the head after he mistakenly rang his doorbell in Kansas City was hit with two felony counts on Monday as prosecutors said he could spend the rest of his life in jail.

And Ben Crump can piss up a rope.

https://tinyurl.com/25fvw6tt

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at April 17, 2023 07:42 PM (sWM8x)

209 Its one of the most basic Christian ethics to live peacefully with unbelievers. Its inevitable in life, and often a Christian can expect to be outnumbered wherever they are.

True, and Christians, when living "peacefully" with believers also were drug into synagogs, before magistrates and beaten, tortured and killed for their faith.

THe Dutch Calvinists and others made up the shore team to escape the persecution of the Roman Catholics by risking everything to make a home in the New World. Others followed and brought their faith so that the New World had a rich concentration of believers in God.

There is so much dilution that can take place before the culture is overthrown and replaced by a miseotheistic model.

I have no problems with nominal Christians because they are at least not hostile to me or my faith - we may get into animated arguments, but no one is pulling a knife on me over it and then proceeding to take my stuff.

This batch of miseotheists want me dead and my faith vanquished.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:43 PM (YXHzG)

210 Hottentot Venus was the most famous African woman for many years. Her remains on display in a Paris museum for 150 years until taken back to her native South Africa for interment.

Posted by: History Ain't Always Pretty at April 17, 2023 07:43 PM (Nn3xT)

211 Its one of the most basic Christian ethics to live peacefully with unbelievers. Its inevitable in life, and often a Christian can expect to be outnumbered wherever they are.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


This is so because Christianity was formed in the cauldron of minority oppression. They had to turn the other cheek.
islam was formed as a raider society that infiltrates and destroys. It has to have access in order to do that. We must not leave ourselves defenseless just because it was the right approach 2000 years ago.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at April 17, 2023 07:45 PM (rDG9M)

212 Its one of the most basic Christian ethics to live peacefully with unbelievers.

And when you are continually getting your asses kicked ? Daily ?

Enough with the live in peace bullshit.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:45 PM (zpt1t)

213 First test is having the collective will to survive.

That assumes a lot of things. Mainly, that a appreciable percent of people actually care to survive.

It also assumes that they know how to use the tools of social survival and value those tools. (they don't)

If a culture has so little love for their traditions and values that they don't mind seeing it mugged, raped and eventually killed off by predators, then it is clear that they either never was shown the relationship, never valued it or don't mind suffering.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:47 PM (YXHzG)

214 And when you are continually getting your asses kicked ? Daily ?

Enough with the live in peace bullshit


Show me where the Might Make Right ethos has brought about global prosperity.

Prior to "blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth" message getting traction, the world only knew war, plunder, despotism and misery.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:49 PM (YXHzG)

215 If a culture has so little love for their traditions and values that they don't mind seeing it mugged, raped and eventually killed off by predators, then it is clear that they either never was shown the relationship, never valued it or don't mind suffering.

And if a culture - ergo the Chris Taylors of the world - are so in love with the paradigms that they are willing to meekly perish following them ? If they insist on the privilege ?

No different than the lamb running to the lion.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:50 PM (zpt1t)

216 The rather hodge podge mix of religions in the US made a single church unrealistic from the beginning.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at April 17, 2023 07:31 PM (eYoxG)

Ummm, no. It was a hodge podge mix of different denominations of the same religion. Though some might have disagreed at the time. (Roman Catholics were not thought well of across the first century of America.) The only atheists and muslims and others were one-offs, and allowed to live mostly because the country was so pre-dominantly nominally Christian.

Posted by: GWB at April 17, 2023 07:51 PM (NJ9MR)

217 Show me where the Might Make Right ethos has brought about global prosperity.

As we both watch everything fall apart - show me how anybody without Might isn't screwed. You don't win because you were right. You were right because you won.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:52 PM (zpt1t)

218 Prior to "blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the Earth" message getting traction, the world only knew war, plunder, despotism and misery.

You're not even arguing with me. You're just saying you don't like it.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 07:54 PM (zpt1t)

219 miseotheist Malthusians
Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:32 PM (YXHzG)

Worshippers of misery? That's an interesting word.

But you point out the difference between Christianity and almost all other religions: the nature of joining* is entirely up to the individual (and faith, not going to argue predestination and stuff here). And it's why only Christianity could build Western Civilization. The concept is self-governance because of what's right, instead of solely punishment for what's wrong. Without that you end up with the French experience in their revolution, and where America is rapidly sliding to now.

(* Yes, this has often been more honored in the breach. But it's doctrine.)

Posted by: GWB at April 17, 2023 07:56 PM (NJ9MR)

220 I have no problems with nominal Christians because they are at least not hostile to me or my faith

Posted by: Reuben Hick at April 17, 2023 07:43 PM (YXHzG)

I will disagree slightly. Because the nominal ones are the ones who slowly become (in this case) Progressives. And Progressives believe in the things that become this nasty wokeness over time - because that's progress to them.

Since I haven't said it today, my point is that we can't get our free Republic back by voting or even fighting. We can only get it back by evangelizing Christian morals and American principles (which rely on that same Christianity).

Posted by: GWB at April 17, 2023 08:03 PM (NJ9MR)

221 And when you are continually getting your asses kicked ? Daily ?

Its good to fight to protect others from being harmed, like children and women and the elderly. We're called to do so in the Bible. We're called to turn the other cheek and aid people in need, even if they hate us, as well. Christianity is about forgiveness, not conquest. That's Islam.

Is stuff like Communism and Islam bad for liberty and our way of life? Absolutely. But freedom means letting people say things we don't like. The entire point of the 1st amendment is about speech we don't agree with and care for.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 08:06 PM (0hOvj)

222 "Tinker, TAILOR, Soldier, ScoggDog. Yawn!"

All trolls are scoggy doggy. Except when they are average joe. Now palinsteele was a a+ troll. Maybe matched by rakon. Maybe. Now TVoC was a pretty good poster before he went off the rails but I guess if scoggy is all ya got, all trolls are scoggdog!!

damn you scoggy!!!!

Posted by: Looking in from the outside of life at April 17, 2023 08:06 PM (89Sog)

223 Mirror Universe Mitt Romney, a lonly trollverse cries out for your supreme leadership!!

Posted by: totes not blazer at April 17, 2023 08:08 PM (89Sog)

224 Is stuff like Communism and Islam bad for liberty and our way of life? Absolutely. But freedom means letting people say things we don't like.

No. Freedom does not mean watching while somebody preaches me and mine must die. Some conversations are not tolerable.

Chris Taylor - you are doing what you do. Going academic, to try and win a conversation, no matter how outrageous your claim.

And Hell, maybe you would walk into the camps for nothing other than principle. But you're also a fool that wants to suffer. Anybody that follows you, or listens to you, is no different.

Good luck in the next world. I'm working on this one.

Posted by: Tailor at April 17, 2023 08:12 PM (zpt1t)

225 The entire point of the 1st amendment is about speech we don't agree with and care for.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 17, 2023 08:06 PM (0hOvj)

The problem is, that freedom only lasts as long as almost everyone else is (or pretends to be) a Christian. Because only Christianity allows for "freedom of conscience".

Posted by: GWB at April 17, 2023 09:43 PM (NJ9MR)

226 Probably won't mean much to people, but I've been tickled to see Ace incorporate pieces of the YouTube pop culture channels I also enjoy, such as the Pitch Meeting Guy, or Gary from Nerdrotic, and the Critical Drinker.

I just watched a video from Echo Chamberlain about the waning of Jordan Peterson. Some of his complaints are fair, but a lot of them focus on Peterson's loss of the "average normie" because he's gone more to the American political Right. #conservative

Aside from my annoyance that EC turns out to be some small-dong naval-gazer, it strikes me that anyone who stands up to bullies - to tyranny - will always turn off that great swath of milquetoast mouthbreathers in the middle. But it's rapidly approaching...that time when we must be willing to turn our backs on those fence-sitters who perpetually sit up on the fence. We keep waiting for a group of people to stand up so we can get behind them, but that group of people is us. Every day, we have to stand up and do what's right, even though it might be financially or emotionally costly to us.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at April 17, 2023 09:59 PM (fNQbO)

227 When did Piers Morgan become a voice of reason?

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Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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