Byron York: The FBI Might Have Prepared the Battlespace So That Twitter Would Believe That the Hunter Biden Laptop Was "Hacked" By the Russians -- and Get Them To Censor It Without Ever Officially Giving the Order to Do So

Yes, I think this is obviously what happened, but here's what happened, all spelled out:



Turns out there was a complaint to the Federal Election Commission concerning Twitter's action, dating from October 2020, when the New York Post story was published. The complaining group was the Tea Party Patriots Foundation, which alleged that by censoring the Hunter Biden article, Twitter had essentially made an "in kind" contribution to the Biden campaign. The group lost the complaint, but as part of the process, Twitter's chief censor, Yoel Roth -- his actual title was "head of site integrity" -- filed a declaration with the FEC.

In that declaration, Roth said that since 2018, he had had "regular meetings with the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, and industry peers regarding election security." Roth revealed that in those meetings, the federal government officials said they were expecting some sort of 2016-style foreign election interference in the lead-up to the 2020 election. Here is what Roth said, in its entirety:


During these weekly meetings, the federal law enforcement agencies communicated that they expected "hack and leak" operations by state actors might occur in the period shortly before the 2020 presidential election, likely in October. I was told in these meetings that the intelligence community expected that individuals associated with political campaigns would be subject to hacking attacks and that material obtained through those hacking attacks would likely be disseminated over social media platforms, including Twitter. These expectations of hack-and-leak operations were discussed throughout 2020. I also learned in these meetings that there were rumors that a hack-and-leak operation would involve Hunter Biden.

Just to review: Yoel Roth, Twitter's head of site integrity, was warned by the FBI to be on the look-out for Russian "hack and leak" operations and was specifically told that they would "likely" be coming in "October" 2020, and further, that there were "rumors" an "operation would involve Hunter Biden."

So, when the Hunter Biden laptop does surface in October 2020, what would Twitter think?

They would think what the FBI had deliberately pre-programmed them to think: That it was a Russian "hack and leak" operation.


Remember that Mark Zuckerberg, head of Facebook, said something similar in an interview with podcaster Joe Rogan. "The FBI, I think, basically came to us, some folks on our team, and was like, 'Hey, just so you know, like, you should be on high alert. ... We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election. We have it on notice that, basically, there's about to be some kind of dump that's similar to that. So just be vigilant.'"

Let me add a note that Zuckerberg would not confirm that they also mentioned Hunter Biden specifically to him -- but he also did not deny it.

Byron York now quotes Miranda Divine, who reminds you that the FBI had Hunter Biden's laptop for a year and so knew it was damning.

Further, given that they were spying on Trump, and they were also spying on Rudy Giuliani, the man in Trump's camp who had the laptop-- AND THEREFORE WOULD KNOW GIULIANI WAS ABOUT TO LEAK IT TO THE PRESS.


It looks very much as if the FBI pre-bunked a story it knew was coming about Hunter Biden. But how would it know The Post was going to publish the story in October 2020? Well, the FBI was spying on Trump's then-lawyer Rudy Giuliani's online cloud, under the pretext of an investigation into alleged foreign agent registration violations, a probe which conveniently was dropped this year. The covert surveillance warrant on Giuliani gave the FBI access to emails in August 2020 from Delaware computer repair store owner John Paul Mac Isaac disclosing information damaging to Joe Biden from the laptop Hunter Biden had abandoned at his store in April 2019. The FBI also had access to my messages with Giuliani in October discussing when The Post would publish the story.

So the FBI knew about the laptop, knew what was on the laptop, knew that Trump's key advisor Giuliani was about to get the laptop leaked to the Post in October 2020 -- at the same time the FBI has sent out FBI agents to tell the heads of the social media monopolies that there are Russian "hack and leak" operations coming specifically in October 2020, specifically about Hunter Biden.

You'll have to trust my memory on this, but I just read that when Elvis Chan was directly asked by people at Facebook or Twitter (forget which) if they were right to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop -- if it was the Russian "hack and leak" operation he had warned them of -- he refused comment.

He knew it was not a Russian hack and leak operation.

But, having worked hard to suggest to them the laptop was a Russian hack and leak operation, he wasn't going to admit that it wasn't when directly asked.

They were doing what the 7th Floor of the Justice Department directed him to direct the social media companies to do.

Back to Byron York:


If that is accurate, the authorities might have had a very specific purpose when they warned Roth that "there were rumors that a hack-and-leak operation would involve Hunter Biden." And when the New York Post published its story on Oct. 14, 2020, less than three weeks before Election Day, Roth knew just what to do.

What does it mean? Think about this. There has been a debate about whether Twitter's suppression of the Hunter Biden story violated the First Amendment. In a previously unknown and improbable development, a Democratic member of Congress, Rep. Ro Khanna, told Twitter at the time that the censorship decision "seems a violation of the 1st Amendment principles" and "seems not in the keeping of the principles of NYT v Sullivan," referring to the famous Supreme Court press freedom case. Twitter, obviously, went ahead anyway.

Elon Musk has called that a clear violation of the First Amendment. But remember that Khanna said the decision violated the "principles" of the First Amendment, not necessarily the amendment itself. Twitter defenders quickly charged that Musk has a "profound misunderstanding" of the First Amendment because "the First Amendment regulates government conduct. It does not regulate private actors," in the words of writer David French. Twitter is a private company, the argument goes, and can censor whatever it wants without violating the First Amendment.

Fine. But now a more complex story is emerging. What if the government, through selective leaking of secret information to Twitter officials, created the conditions under which Twitter's natural response when the New York Post story was published, a response following government guidance, would be to censor the story? If that is the case, then no, the federal government did not violate the First Amendment. Indeed, it would have caused an uproar and would have been a gross violation of the First Amendment had the FBI shut down the dissemination of a press story. So the FBI persuaded Twitter to do it. And since Twitter is a private company -- Voila! -- there's no violation of the First Amendment.


Oh?

I think we're talking about a fucking coup here, myself.

"It's like an insurance policy"

...commenter "Suppressed Flasher" says.

Posted by: Ace at 03:16 PM




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1 1st

Posted by: GF at December 07, 2022 03:16 PM (WSJxU)

2 My God...it's filled with LINK!

Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 03:17 PM (eo2rU)

3 The very tips of the tentacles do not have to be told what it's actions should be, they are part of the collective and the move and act in unison.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2022 03:17 PM (nYEBo)

4 The FBI needs to be disbanded.

The entire Intel Community needs to be jailed in a SuperMax Facility.

Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 03:18 PM (eo2rU)

5 FBI: Carrying on the great Praetroian tradition.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 07, 2022 03:19 PM (wZktZ)

6 top ten

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at December 07, 2022 03:19 PM (g/54t)

7 What sort of coup is a fucking coup? Just looking for clarity.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 07, 2022 03:21 PM (okGHj)

8 I think we're talking about a fucking coup here, myself.

Posted by: Ace at 03:16 PM


Hell yes.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2022 03:21 PM (DRSnL)

9 Dear France,

How much for guillotine rentals? We'll make sure they are cleaned properly prior to return.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 07, 2022 03:21 PM (4olE8)

10 Voters aren't well disciplined, and so we took some steps, did some things, and maybe we went a little over the line in some instances (and we will address those issues with better training!), but our actions were motivated by our strong commitment to American values and any other bullshit I can think of to say.

Posted by: Chris Wray, America's Patriot Act Watchdog at December 07, 2022 03:21 PM (wZktZ)

11 Someone needs to remind these leftie fruits that if you have to lie to make your point, then your point is moot.

Learned that before kindergarten.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 07, 2022 03:21 PM (okGHj)

12 4 The FBI needs to be disbanded.

The entire Intel Community needs to be jailed in a SuperMax Facility.
Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 03:18 PM (eo2rU)

Which is then launched into the Sun...in Minecraft, of course.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 07, 2022 03:21 PM (Rl7KJ)

13 coup-de-twat

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 03:22 PM (9UlRk)

14 I certainly never learned any of this!!!

Posted by: John Durham at December 07, 2022 03:22 PM (wZktZ)

15 Fascism at its finest
Everything for the State, nothing against the State

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 07, 2022 03:22 PM (xhxe8)

16 Nothing will happen.

Posted by: I'll ruin the ending for you at December 07, 2022 03:22 PM (CtCgo)

17 "It's like an insurance policy"

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 07, 2022 03:23 PM (6jjwt)

18 Voters aren't well disciplined, and so we took some steps, did some things, and maybe we went a little over the line in some instances (and we will address those issues with better training!), but our actions were motivated by our strong commitment to American values and any other bullshit I can think of to say.

Ladies and gentlemen, I'll be brief. The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests - we did.

Posted by: Archimedes at December 07, 2022 03:23 PM (eOEVl)

19 Love God,
Love God's Name,
Love God's Day,
Obey.

Do not kill, for sure,
In thought, word, deed be pure.
Do not steal or ever lie,
Most of all be satisfied.

Rinse, repeat.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 07, 2022 03:23 PM (okGHj)

20 I think we're talking about a fucking coup here, myself.
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Yep, pretty much.

Posted by: SMH at December 07, 2022 03:23 PM (Zbekl)

21 Fucking Buncha Idiots

Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 03:23 PM (v0R5T)

22 This is obviously a messaging problem and part of the issue is that Democrats are held to such a high standard by the hostile press.

Yeah, lets go with that.

Posted by: Karine Jean Pierre's Brain at December 07, 2022 03:23 PM (wZktZ)

23 14 coup-de-twat
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 03:22 PM (9UlRk)

I read that in Paul Joseph Watson's voice.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 07, 2022 03:24 PM (okGHj)

24 "The intelligence community has six ways to Sunday to get you"

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 07, 2022 03:24 PM (6jjwt)

25 Ace has just shown that he is a ink-stained wench!

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 07, 2022 03:24 PM (EDV+E)

26 Coup?

I have been saying this from the start. What everyone seems to forget is that most coups use the laws of a country and false or trumped up charges, emergency powers, exigent circumstances, etc.

They are not lawless, but instead use the laws as cover for extreme actions that really are illegal.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 03:25 PM (dQiv4)

27 so yeah, clever.

the feds get a warrant from a cross dressing, furry enthusiast sissy magistrate...they SWAT raid and scoop up everything ever written by the target. And then they also spy on everything they do.

They're not interested in criminal prosecutions, although with the rubber stamp that is DC-Gitmo and Portland, why not...but anyway, they're inside the walls.

and as the 11th circuit pointed out...."we can't just make up rules for former presidents or people who are being targeted for political persecution. This warrant signed by the sissy furry magistrate is just as valid as anything else in the constitution...you do like the constitution, don't you?"

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 07, 2022 03:25 PM (MLrvz)

28 The upper echelons of of the FBI need to be imprisoned-in the most unpleasant prison to be found-with overcrowding, overflowing toilets and rotting food.
The rest can just be fired.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 07, 2022 03:25 PM (eGTCV)

29 They are not lawless, but instead use the laws as cover for extreme actions that really are illegal.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 03:25 PM (dQiv4)

Bailiff, whack their pee pees.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 07, 2022 03:25 PM (okGHj)

30 Autocucumber!!!@

Link-stained, grrrrt.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 07, 2022 03:25 PM (EDV+E)

31 Imagine the conniption fit DC would be having if Trump had used the FBI as his own personal gestapo

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 07, 2022 03:25 PM (6jjwt)

32 29 The upper echelons of of the FBI need to be imprisoned-in the most unpleasant prison to be found-with overcrowding, overflowing toilets and rotting food.
The rest can just be fired.
Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 07, 2022 03:25 PM (eGTCV)

Swirlies in effluent all around.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 07, 2022 03:26 PM (okGHj)

33 You know that one Tom Clancy book where it ends with the pilot flying a jumbo jet into the U.S. Capitol while the president is addressing a joint session of Congress, plus the Supreme Court and the heads of the federal agencies?

That was a very well-written book.

Posted by: Dr. T at December 07, 2022 03:26 PM (bhRsz)

34 Why does no one acknowledge Miranda Devine's reporting that the FBI knew about (and issued warnings related to) the Hunter Biden laptop because they were tapping Rudy Giuliani phone?

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at December 07, 2022 03:27 PM (2u5yl)

35 Defund the FIB.

ASAP.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 07, 2022 03:27 PM (EDV+E)

36 coyote omelettes > ham and eggers

Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 03:27 PM (v0R5T)

37 What? Is this important? Was abortion impacted? Tell me that!!

Just like a Republican, to worry about honest efforts to protect America from disinformation!

Posted by: Democrat Suburban Wine Moms at December 07, 2022 03:27 PM (wZktZ)

38 If this ever got to SCOTUS, I highly doubt they would agree that the government did not violate the 1st amendment. Trick is finding a way to get it into the federal courts.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (there is no path to 270) at December 07, 2022 03:27 PM (ZEKee)

39 Imagine the conniption fit DC would be having if Trump had used the FBI as his own personal gestapo
Posted by: Suppressed Flasher
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Sorry, I can't imagine any Feeb following Trump's orders.

Posted by: SMH at December 07, 2022 03:27 PM (Zbekl)

40
Federal
Bureau of
Insurrection

Posted by: neurosis of the liver at December 07, 2022 03:27 PM (48d9R)

41 I was watching CSPAN (yeah, yeah, I know) this morning to get the old heart going before getting out of bed, and there was an earnest young lady describing how her organization (didn't catch that part) was "reimagining the Constitution to attain Progressive goals." Yeah...coup.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at December 07, 2022 03:28 PM (aGGj6)

42 The Twitter hacks still deserve some of the blame, though. Taibbi's long chain of tweets the other day stated that the hacks at Twitter both knew that the rationale they were claiming for censorship was nonsensical, and that they intentionally shut Dorsey - the CEO at the time - out of the decision loop (didn't even tell him about it).

The FBI apparently primed them to shut it down, but they can't use the FBI to dodge blame for it. Both the FBI and the Twitter hacks are at fault here.

Posted by: junior at December 07, 2022 03:28 PM (PTw5h)

43 So the FBI was worried about "2016-style Russian interference" in 2020? I think by that point it was pretty established that there was, in fact, no major "Russian interference" save for some minor FB buys.

And if they FBI is so concerned about "foreign interference" just what efforts have they made up to now, to determine to what extent the Russians or Chinese "amplified" (to use their terms) the George Floyd/BLM kerfuffle that basically burned half our cities down in 2020, and which did more to divide our country racially and politically more than about any event since the riots of the 1960s?

And what of all the WEF money and Greta Thurnberg and other international actors waging war on American energy independence? And what of all the foreign interests shilling for an invasion of the US southern border?

And how much of our billions of support for Ukraine has been pressured by paid lobbyists and paid off politicians acting as undeclared foreign agent?

So you want to eliminate all this foreign interference in our politics? Then by all means let's go there.

Posted by: Zek at December 07, 2022 03:28 PM (5FPX4)

44 "It's like an insurance policy"


It WAS deliberate government agency DISINFORMATION.

Posted by: Gref at December 07, 2022 03:28 PM (AMIL/)

45 A rotten dying republic on the Potomac. That's what we've got.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 07, 2022 03:28 PM (rJ48h)

46 Them To Censor It Without Ever Officially Giving the Order to Do So
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Yes. This is how it works. It's "working toward the fuhrer." If the state can make it clear what it *wants* to see happen, it needn't give orders to *make* it happen. Everyone knows what to do, and they do it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2022 03:28 PM (t0OGg)

47 Feral Bureau of Instigation


Whatever happens from here, they started it.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 07, 2022 03:28 PM (aOQyQ)

48 If this ever got to SCOTUS, I highly doubt they would agree that the government did not violate the 1st amendment.
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Well, it's a tax...so....

Posted by: Chief inJustice Roberts at December 07, 2022 03:28 PM (fs1hN)

49 >>>So the FBI knew about the laptop, knew what was on the laptop, knew that Trump's key advisor Giuliani was about to get the laptop leaked to the Post in October 2020 -- at the same time the FBI has sent out FBI agents to tell the heads of the social media monopolies that there are Russian "hack and leak" operations coming specifically in October 2020, specifically about Hunter Biden.

Their fallback position from we didn't order SM to suppress, so it is not a per se 1A violation is that they defrauded SM so that they would suppress and limit people's speech?

I am not buying it. We are early in on this op, hardly more than 72 hours, and this is what is being given up?

I'll wait for more.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 07, 2022 03:29 PM (hgD8w)

50 trump nominated wray

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 07, 2022 03:29 PM (MLrvz)

51
Corporate censorship organized and directed by the Federal government. Absolutely a First Amendment violation. I don't want to hear any more about companies doing this on their own -- that's a thin, desperate lie.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2022 03:29 PM (dtlw7)

52 Their fallback position from we didn't order SM to suppress, so it is not a per se 1A violation is that they defrauded SM so that they would suppress and limit people's speech?

///


what they can't explain is why, as an agency, they cared

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 07, 2022 03:29 PM (MLrvz)

53 They would think what the FBI had deliberately pre-programmed them to think: That it was a Russian "hack and leak" operation.
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Would they? I kind of doubt it. They just got the message, as intended. "This is bad for the Complex, and therefore is a hack or a leak. This is what we were told to expect, and so we will respond as expected."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2022 03:29 PM (t0OGg)

54 It's to the point where it is easier to list all the times the DoJ and FIB protect/respect our civil rights as opposed to violating them.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 07, 2022 03:29 PM (EDV+E)

55 Didn't we use to tar and feather politicians and other ilk of that sort?

Did any members of Congress actually ever get tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail? Got to be in the 1800s, I'm sure.

If so... we have precedent.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at December 07, 2022 03:29 PM (Kbz60)

56 You asked for miracles? I give you the F.B.I.

Posted by: Hans Gruber at December 07, 2022 03:30 PM (+oR7L)

57 Is Ace making up Commenter names?

And what of "pre-bunked"? Is someone waiting for certain links to be posted?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2022 03:31 PM (a3Q+t)

58 >>>I think we're talking about a fucking coup here, myself.

Exactly.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 07, 2022 03:31 PM (hgD8w)

59 A coup is like when the cop pulls you over at 2:00AM and claims you were "swerving" as excuse to give you a FST.

During the test, he barks our commands that are impossible to follow. You hesitate and he escalates and tells you to put your hands on your head and hand him your registration. You check your pocket for your wallet, and he shoots you 17 times our of fear for his life.

The laws and procedure are used for cover.

Posted by: Amadou Diallo at December 07, 2022 03:31 PM (dQiv4)

60 is there any good news to be had? *despairs*

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at December 07, 2022 03:31 PM (mnUzy)

61 Did any members of Congress actually ever get tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail? Got to be in the 1800s, I'm sure.

If so... we have precedent.
Posted by: GanGanowicz at December 07, 2022 03:29 PM (Kbz60)


Good luck getting near them. Their security will beat you to a pulp, after which you'll be thrown in a supermax prison without trial, and they'll be publicly honored for "defending democracy."

Posted by: Dr. T at December 07, 2022 03:31 PM (bhRsz)

62 By the time the laptop story leaked anyone who had actually looked into it knew that Hunter Biden

1) Was a drug addict
2) Was having sex with everything that would stay still long enough for him
3) Was taking bribes for his father.

The laptop was just objective proof of this. So if anyone fell for the FBI trying to convince them it was a hoax it was only because they WANTED someone to convince them it was a hoax.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 07, 2022 03:32 PM (ESjRY)

63 what they can't explain is why, as an agency, they cared

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 07, 2022 03:29 PM (MLrvz)

Stasi was directed by the same DNC people directing Twitter to suppress. Bank on it.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 07, 2022 03:32 PM (hgD8w)

64 Can we at least hang them in effigy? That's allowable, surely?

Posted by: GanGanowicz at December 07, 2022 03:32 PM (Kbz60)

65 A laptop that they had for 9 months and new GODDAM well was authentic

Posted by: deadrody at December 07, 2022 03:33 PM (kYmXc)

66 >>>
Their fallback position from we didn't order SM to suppress, so it is not a per se 1A violation is that they defrauded SM so that they would suppress and limit people's speech?

I am not buying it. We are early in on this op, hardly more than 72 hours, and this is what is being given up?

I'll wait for more.

...

You're probably right. This is what we have, so far.

Posted by: Anthony at December 07, 2022 03:33 PM (C1Zwz)

67 Good luck getting near them. Their security will beat you to a pulp, after which you'll be thrown in a supermax prison without trial, and they'll be publicly honored for "defending democracy."

Posted by: Dr. T at December 07, 2022 03:31 PM (bhRsz)

I'd be happy enough if some homeless person throws a warm bucket of poo on a member of congress.

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at December 07, 2022 03:33 PM (mnUzy)

68 What sort of coup is a fucking coup? Just looking for clarity.

It's when your girlfriend dumps you for Pete Davidson.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2022 03:33 PM (ZGrMX)

69 Thanks for the nood./

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 03:33 PM (SffTi)

70 @27

>>They are not lawless, but instead use the laws as cover for extreme actions that really are illegal.

Well sure, take for example FARA violations, some people are allowed to quietly pay fines, close up shop and slink away, while others get, the business end of the pain is the process sledgehammer.

Or what just happened to the Trump organization CFO.

Everything the LE apparatus was "legal," it's just very selective of who they persue.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2022 03:33 PM (nYEBo)

71 Hey, apropos of nothing... what happened to that rail strike? Seems like it was supposed to start today, wasn't it?

Can't we just shut down DC somehow?

Posted by: GanGanowicz at December 07, 2022 03:34 PM (Kbz60)

72 As I said in a previous comment, I want heads. This Republic deserves nothing less (nevermind that we no longer live in a Republic, just indulge me)

Posted by: Mattski at December 07, 2022 03:34 PM (ObHFi)

73 Speaking of laptops


What ever happened to Mr Huma's that the feds and NYPD had?

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 07, 2022 03:34 PM (6jjwt)

74 So the FBI knew about the laptop, knew what was on the laptop, knew that Trump's key advisor Giuliani was about to get the laptop leaked to the Post in October 2020 -- at the same time the FBI has sent out FBI agents to tell the heads of the social media monopolies that there are Russian "hack and leak" operations coming specifically in October 2020, specifically about Hunter Biden.
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But no direct orders. They didn't need them. It's better without them, in fact. They just set the stage and everyone knows what to do.

Total control is probably pretty great from that standpoint.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2022 03:34 PM (t0OGg)

75 is there any good news to be had? *despairs*
Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at December 07, 2022 03:31 PM (mnUzy)
........

We will always have Omnibus.

Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 03:35 PM (v0R5T)

76 >>Hey, apropos of nothing... what happened to that rail strike? Seems like it was supposed to start today, wasn't it?


Congress stepped in and busted up their Union Party.

Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 03:35 PM (eo2rU)

77 Meanwhile, in a Banana Republic near you, 600 or so people who went to a rally have had their lives destroyed because they dared to express disapproval of the current regime.

Posted by: Just Lily at December 07, 2022 03:35 PM (csbfn)

78 So to tally the score...

Pete Davidson has banged the following....

Ariana Grande, Kate Beckinsale, Kim Kardashian and Emily Rostankowski.

That's positively Warren Betteyesque.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2022 03:35 PM (nYEBo)

79 Suspected German coup plot spawns dozens of arrests
German police have seized dozens of people including a self-styled prince, a retired paratrooper and a former judge, accusing the suspects of discussing the overthrow of the government, but leaving unclear how concrete the plans were (ABC News)

https://tinyurl.com/3y34ze5z
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FBI Ramps Up Spending to Fight MAGA Terrorism

https://tinyurl.com/2p6kuhd2

Posted by: SMH at December 07, 2022 03:35 PM (Zbekl)

80
11 All this laptop crap, which doesn't point to anything illegal. Embarrassing to Hunter Biden, definitely. But nothing damaging to President Biden. Unlike the Trump organization.
Posted by: Sid, now with Aviators at December 07, 2022 03:21 PM (BCe2h)

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The laptop documents Joe Biden selling his office to foreign governments and skimming kickbacks from foreign aid. This is criminal. It is corroborated by other evidence, e.g one of the Biden's discarded "partners" wants to testify.

"It's just Hunter's dick pics" is a standard Leftist deflection. Regarding that, shielding Hunter from federal prosecution for pedophile sex and child pornography is also a legal issue.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 07, 2022 03:36 PM (dtlw7)

81 37 Coyotes lay eggs?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 03:36 PM (SffTi)

82 I love how the ghey-glasses-wearing troll thinks that FBI would go through all this trouble to suppress merely "embarrassing" information about Hunter.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 07, 2022 03:36 PM (Rl7KJ)

83 Hey, apropos of nothing... what happened to that rail strike? Seems like it was supposed to start today, wasn't it?

Can't we just shut down DC somehow?
Posted by: GanGanowicz at December 07, 2022 03:34 PM (Kbz60)


I know, right? Surely the union leadership isn't *also* in on the con!

Posted by: Dr. T at December 07, 2022 03:36 PM (bhRsz)

84 What is the Constitutional remedy for a coup? Asking for 75 million friends.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 07, 2022 03:36 PM (hgD8w)

85 If everyone who should be dumped into the Marianas Trench was dumped into the Trench ocean levels would rise.

Posted by: That NLurker guy where's my Irene Adler? at December 07, 2022 03:37 PM (eGTCV)

86 What the FBI did violates the first amendment, full stop.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2022 03:37 PM (lTGtQ)

87
When the truth becomes crystalline, the MSM will call it "murky".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2022 03:37 PM (jDWvE)

88 FBI isn't protecting Biden.

FBI is protecting ALL of them. Ukraine and China are merely two frontiers for their graft.

Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 03:38 PM (eo2rU)

89 Posted by: SMH at December 07, 2022 03:35 PM (Zbekl)

It's pretty clear to anyone with a brain that the lines are being drawn.


Time for choosing.

I'm getting too old for this crap

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 07, 2022 03:38 PM (6jjwt)

90 Not news
Republicans pounce
Old news

Posted by: The Nooz Cycle (MSM) at December 07, 2022 03:38 PM (5FPX4)

91 >>>So the FBI knew about the laptop, knew what was on the laptop, knew that Trump's key advisor Giuliani was about to get the laptop leaked to the Post in October 2020 -- at the same time the FBI has sent out FBI agents to tell the heads of the social media monopolies that there are Russian "hack and leak" operations coming specifically in October 2020, specifically about Hunter Biden.
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But no direct orders. They didn't need them. It's better without them, in fact. They just set the stage and everyone knows what to do.

Total control is probably pretty great from that standpoint.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2022 03:34 PM (t0OGg)


Right. Buffers.

The Federal crime families got lots of buffers.

- Willie Cicci

Posted by: neurosis of the liver at December 07, 2022 03:39 PM (48d9R)

92
Suspected German coup plot spawns dozens of arrests

__________

Origins in a beer hall in Munich.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 07, 2022 03:39 PM (jDWvE)

93 What the FBI did violates the first amendment, full stop.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2022 03:37 PM (lTGtQ)

Mueller's big Trump gotcha was conspiracy to defraud the U.S. government. DNC, FBI, Twitter did at least this, if not seditious conspiracy.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 07, 2022 03:39 PM (hgD8w)

94 Suspected German coup plot spawns dozens of arrests
German police have seized dozens of people including a self-styled prince, a retired paratrooper and a former judge, accusing the suspects of discussing the overthrow of the government, but leaving unclear how concrete the plans were (ABC News)

https://tinyurl.com/3y34ze5z

Posted by: SMH at December 07, 2022 03:35 PM (Zbekl)


Given German LEOs long history of honest pursuit of justice and never framing the political opposition, I rate this story as "Incontestably True."

Posted by: Dr. T at December 07, 2022 03:39 PM (bhRsz)

95 Willowed from last thread:

Is there congregational singing in Catholic churches?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 03:39 PM (SffTi)

96 85 What is the Constitutional remedy for a coup? Asking for 75 million friends.

See Dec of Independence

Posted by: Founders at December 07, 2022 03:40 PM (YTBIQ)

97 You have a coup. You have subversion of the electoral system, largely shown by the fact the last two elections defy all previous trends, circumstances and statistics. All of them. You have a complete corruption of the media and big tech. A weaponization of the justice system, including politically partisan juries who are not convicting people based on the law, they are convicting them base on their political proclivities.

It's an undeclared war. Really, an insurgency. Yet we don't have a single person fighting for us.

There isn't a single person with courage left.

The GOPe is about to re-elect absolute failures and Vichy Republicans like McConnell and McDaniel. There is no one who listens to the people, just donors and their own foolish, tainted corrupt, flaccid egos.

Posted by: Marcus T, Harmeet Dhillon for GOP Chair at December 07, 2022 03:40 PM (tDEa7)

98 72 Hey, apropos of nothing... what happened to that rail strike? Seems like it was supposed to start today, wasn't it?

Can't we just shut down DC somehow?
Posted by: GanGanowicz at December 07, 2022 03:34 PM (Kbz60)

I think Congress passed something to avert it, which was of course signed by Biden.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 07, 2022 03:41 PM (Rl7KJ)

99 83 I love how the ghey-glasses-wearing troll thinks that FBI would go through all this trouble to suppress merely "embarrassing" information about Hunter.

Posted by: Thrawn at December 07, 2022 03:36 PM (Rl7KJ)

Thing is, I don't think Hunter is embarrassed in any way about his exploits. He probably thinks he is quite the manly man.

Posted by: IC - #FJB #MitchTheBitch at December 07, 2022 03:41 PM (mnUzy)

100 VP Biden threatened Ukraine if they continued to investigate his son's pay masters and his 10%. It's on tape. Biden lied about never having discussed Ukraine business with Hunter or met any of those business people. We know this because there are photos of Joe and Hunter golfing with these people.

The MSM allowed this to happen. It didn't require covert operations. We knew.

Posted by: polynikes at December 07, 2022 03:41 PM (MrIOU)

101 Can we please not forget about the elephant in the room?

The DAMNED LAPTOP, and WHAT IT TELLS.

Honestly, who cares about the mechanics of the cover-up.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 07, 2022 03:41 PM (w9Wax)

102 It worked. Whether there is a price to be paid is in doubt.
And because it worked Maricopa did almost a play-by-play of the above routine against Lake. GP link, scroll down about a third to the Christina Bobb portion.

https://tinyurl.com/3xysdde3

They did the exact same crap.

Posted by: Fool Otto at December 07, 2022 03:41 PM (DB16e)

103 Hey, apropos of nothing... what happened to that rail strike? Seems like it was supposed to start today, wasn't it?


Congress stepped in and busted up their Union Party.
Posted by: garrett


Dems love them some slavery.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 03:41 PM (iqzch)

104 Hey, apropos of nothing... what happened to that rail strike? Seems like it was supposed to start today, wasn't it?

Can't we just shut down DC somehow?
Posted by: GanGanowicz
___

Friday, the 9th.

But slowdowns aren't out of the question.

Posted by: SMH at December 07, 2022 03:42 PM (Zbekl)

105 Of course they did.

The question not asked: if it wasn't rated to hunter Biden laptop, what specifically was it related to Hunter Biden?

I.e., what more is out there? If the answer is nothing, you've answered Byron's question.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 07, 2022 03:42 PM (NW9xb)

106 Nice of Biden's lapdog DOJ to ensure Trump is "charged" with something so aviator glasses wearing stink dicks can mew about it. While ignoring crime boss Joe's overt criminality.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at December 07, 2022 03:42 PM (Oy+M5)

107
Time to dunk the FBI.

If they float, they are witches.

If they sink, they are very disciplined witches.

Posted by: portlandon at December 07, 2022 03:43 PM (+oR7L)

108 Given German LEOs long history of honest pursuit of justice and never framing the political opposition, I rate this story as "Incontestably True."
Posted by: Dr. T

Well, they did arrest Santa Claus a year or two ago.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 07, 2022 03:43 PM (aOQyQ)

109 "The FBI, I think, basically came to us, some folks on our team, and was like, 'Hey, just so you know, like, you should be on high alert. ... We thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in the 2016 election. We have it on notice that, basically, there's about to be some kind of dump that's similar to that. So just be vigilant.'"

Many, many questions arise.

What, exactly, was false that got promoted during the 2016 election?
And was it any different than any previous election? How much money and energy did the Soviet Union spend on trying to keep Ronald Regan from being elected, or re-elected?
What was the approach back then by the press?
Why does something coming from Russia necessarily mean its bad or wrong or has to be ignored?
What other foreign nations were pushing to change the 2016 elections (like WEF, Saudi Arabia, etc) and why is there no concern about that?

Even if you assume this is in good faith, which it blatantly is not, its completely hinky and screwy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 03:43 PM (0hOvj)

110 hiya

Posted by: JT at December 07, 2022 03:43 PM (T4tVD)

111 You think this is bad,...

This type of nudging and influence is the whole goal of Big Data, (and eventually AI.)

I have doubts about how hands-off the FBI was in this case, but the idea that they can influence people through selective information priming is what the dems have been doing since the "grass roots" project to pass Campaign Finance Reform.

https://www.wsj.com/articles
/SB122512338741472357

The link goes to article where it is explained that that was passed by influencing select people to believe there was a mass movement demanding reform. Read it and think about how easy it is for Big Tech to do that today to entire populations. Paper moon.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 03:44 PM (dQiv4)

112 Willowed, but I think important:

I must be doing religion wrong. I get no peace or joy from it at all, only abject terror that I'm damned regardless. I only go to church for my family's sake at this point, in case one of them gets to Heaven in spite of me.
Posted by: leoncaruthers

All (?!) one must do to start down the right path is ask forgiveness for the past. "I'm so sorry" and "I'll try not to do it again" pretty much covers it if you are sincere.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 03:44 PM (qoGsy)

113 If they sink, they are very disciplined witches.

Posted by: portlandon at December 07, 2022 03:43 PM (+oR7L)

lol

Nice mashup.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 07, 2022 03:44 PM (hgD8w)

114 Didn't we already connect all of these dots?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 07, 2022 03:44 PM (J/Vk/)

115 Time to dunk the FBI.

If they float, they are witches.

-------------

A lot of them look to have body types of floaters.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 07, 2022 03:44 PM (sX1BW)

116 Traitor Mitch will say nothing about it. Can no longer support Trump picking our candidates. Considering the state of the country there should have been a wave. Hannity promotes Trump’s picks on his radio and TV shows. We end up losing to beatable candidates. Sticking with Trump is like sticking with a QB who keeps throwing picks.

Plus with friends like Mitch who needs enemies.

Posted by: alan stern at December 07, 2022 03:45 PM (A9Ltt)

117 Even if you assume this is in good faith, which it blatantly is not, its completely hinky and screwy
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 03:43 PM (0hOvj)
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I think all of those questions are the wrong one. Answer all of them in a satisfactory way and it still won't change what I think is the *real* question that needs to be answered:
"How is government/press collusion consistent with the Constitution of the United States or the basic expectations of a free republic?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2022 03:45 PM (t0OGg)

118 Defense attorney: "No no, it's not DIE Donald Trump its pronounced 'dee', its German for 'the'."
Jury member: "nothing bad ever came out of Germany!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 03:45 PM (0hOvj)

119 115 Yeah, this seems like old news to me, too?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 03:46 PM (SffTi)

120 Posted by: leoncaruthers

You still haven't surrendered. That's the hardest part by far.

Posted by: polynikes at December 07, 2022 03:46 PM (MrIOU)

121 Well it's good the FBI saved us from ReElecting bad OrangeMan.

Posted by: DaveA at December 07, 2022 03:46 PM (FhXTo)

122 So close to Kwanzaa?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at December 07, 2022 03:47 PM (ZNbXG)

123 The link goes to article where it is explained that that was passed by influencing select people to believe there was a mass movement demanding reform. Read it and think about how easy it is for Big Tech to do that today to entire populations. Paper moon.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 03:44 PM (dQiv4)
++++
The search engines have enormous power. Someone ran a bluntly unethical study in India and were able to move outcomes by changing what results were presented, and determined the best mix of results to move opinion in favor of one candidate or issue (about a 80/20 or 90/10 ratio of positive to negative pieces on the first page of results, with a mixture of very strongly positive and positive links and lightly-negative links - stuff like "It's bad, but *too* bad."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2022 03:47 PM (t0OGg)

124 Sounds like a RICO case to this IAMNAL

Conspiracy to suborn or something.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 03:47 PM (dQiv4)

125 Muh norms

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2022 03:47 PM (I0KiK)

126 "How is government/press collusion consistent with the Constitution of the United States or the basic expectations of a free republic?"

Well IF, and its a huge ask, IF you assume several very key things are true...

-That the propaganda is false and designed to fix the election
-That it will be effective or in any way actually influence the vote
-That the intelligence is solid and reliable
-That the press is reliably non partisan and honest
-That the FBI is not utterly compromised and corrupt for one party

I think it is not unreasonable for them to warn the press about possible upcoming propaganda to watch out for.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 03:47 PM (0hOvj)

127 Trump should run third party in 2024 and ruin the GOP. I’m done. Don’t give a shit.

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at December 07, 2022 03:47 PM (xSTgL)

128 Steve Bannon and Miranda Devine spelled this out over the weekend. The FBI spied on Rudy, Bannon, Devine and others and knew that the Post was about to break the story and warned Twitter that a Russian hack and release scam was about to hit and that social media needed to be aware that it was disinformation.

They aren't guessing, they know the FBI was spying on their communications.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 03:48 PM (ZLI7S)

129 What I want to learn is how Fauci and ChiComs colluded to produce, release and spread a Bio Bomb and who was running air cover on the operation to enable endless Mail In Ballots forever?

Posted by: Puddinhead at December 07, 2022 03:48 PM (8kMmX)

130 Checked-pants, coupon-clipping "conservative" Rich Lowry interviewed by Sid Rosen on WABC 77 today, talks about how "both sides" were "foolish" in the leadup to that little FBI raid on Mar a Lago.

Yes, that silly Trump fellow who happens to have been a former President with plenary power to declassify, and a legitimate interest in his Presidential papers, should have been more solicitous of a GS-Pantybunch at that National Archives and so, pari delicto, can't really complain about a Soviet style raid on the former President's home, so as to peruse all the papers in his home office and safe.

Posted by: Zek at December 07, 2022 03:48 PM (5FPX4)

131 Bulgaroctonus, yes. More specificity needed for clarification . . .

Posted by: Catherine at December 07, 2022 03:48 PM (ZSsrh)

132 Tonypete, my "firm resolve" is bullshit and He and I both know it. There's also the small matter of me not being "perfect, as your father in heaven is perfect" and failing utterly at sharing the Good News because I don't have any.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at December 07, 2022 03:48 PM (UfRqq)

133 Posted by: Marcus T, Harmeet Dhillon for GOP Chair at December 07, 2022 03:40 PM (tDEa7)

May Mike Lindell beat McDaniel

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 07, 2022 03:48 PM (ZnU/z)

134 I think we're talking about a fucking coup here, myself. - Posted Ace.

A coup here, a slow rolling insurrection against Trump there, elections masquerading as ballot generation exercises, and now outright raids, takedowns, and jailing of Biden's political opponents - why I must conclude that the "Sacred Democracy" is as healthy as can be.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 07, 2022 03:48 PM (c1mVn)

135 Sounds like a RICO case to this IAMNAL

Conspiracy to suborn or something.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 03:47 PM (dQiv4)
++++
Assuming that it is RICO material, who would build and prosecute that case? Why, the exact people who did the crime!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2022 03:49 PM (t0OGg)

136 The search engines have enormous power.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


I harp on that point frequently in these boxes. I have looked for the wsj article I linked a few times and it is always a bitch to find unless I remember a lot of specific details.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 03:49 PM (dQiv4)

137 Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 03:48 PM (ZLI7S)

Honorable institution!

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 07, 2022 03:49 PM (ZnU/z)

138 132 I mean, does the whole congregation stand up and sing (or, in my case, belt out) hymns periodically throughout the service?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 03:50 PM (SffTi)

139 Trump should run third party in 2024 and ruin the GOP. I’m done. Don’t give a shit.
Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at December 07, 2022 03:47 PM (xSTgL)
........

Trump/Musk 2024
The Repo Party

Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 03:50 PM (v0R5T)

140 Hey, apropos of nothing... what happened to that rail strike? Seems like it was supposed to start today, wasn't it?


Klaus put out word that unions are wreckers and kulaks. Congress busted up the strike here, and two threatened union strikes in the UK are being called "striking for Putin" and may also be busted up.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2022 03:50 PM (ZGrMX)

141 Seems to me that all the Russia Russia nonsense was just the pretext for the campaign spying.


Watergate didn't have sht on these guys.


October surprise bitches!



Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 07, 2022 03:50 PM (6jjwt)

142 Oooh, AOC is officially under investigation by the House Ethics Committee.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2022 03:50 PM (DRSnL)

143 Is that tub of sh*t Barre ever going to be questioned about the agency he oversaw pulling these OPs prior to the 2020 election?
He seems to want to opine about myriad other things.....

Posted by: noneyouknowyouknow at December 07, 2022 03:51 PM (QpUKb)

144 Oh?
I think we're talking about a fucking coup here, myself.

++++
The end stage, yeah. It's finished now. It lasted for about 8-10 years by my reckoning.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2022 03:51 PM (t0OGg)

145 I ask the same questions Christopher Taylor. There was no Russian interference of any note in 2016.

I bet Zuckerberg is a little ticked off that he is left holding the FBI's bad guy bag, being used to accomplish their conspiracy.

Posted by: Ultra pj at December 07, 2022 03:51 PM (G1dq6)

146 Sid the troll is really a discount troll and even then whoever is picking up the tab is getting robbed.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2022 03:51 PM (3PEtM)

147 Given that the Republican leadership is desperately working to get as much of the Democrat agenda done before the next congress meets, and some new people come in who cannot be controlled... I think its long past time to destroy the GOP and just deal with whatever comes next.

At this point in my life my priorities are a lot different than who wins what office and what happens in Washington though. Your greatest treasure is a loving family; cherish them now while you have them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 03:51 PM (0hOvj)

148 CRT

Condolences on your recent loss.
You have many friends here in the boxes you may not know about.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 03:52 PM (dQiv4)

149 I assume the FBI was wiretapping Trump from 2015 to the present.

Posted by: Goatweed at December 07, 2022 03:52 PM (0Q/6W)

150 Everyone is concentrating on the Laptop... the diary must have been getting close to showing something much worse in Biden land.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2022 03:53 PM (3PEtM)

151 Tonypete, my "firm resolve" is bullshit and He and I both know it. There's also the small matter of me not being "perfect, as your father in heaven is perfect" and failing utterly at sharing the Good News because I don't have any.
Posted by: leoncaruthers
---
This is exactly why Jesus came, died, rose again.

Our best efforts at righteousness *are* bullshit, not to mention our sin. He took the punishment we deserved and gives us His righteousness.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 07, 2022 03:53 PM (IdLgA)

152 Leon, you don't have to be perfect- you've been redeemed, it's just up to you to accept this incredible act of grace, which is, of course, the Good News. To wit: Jesus, the Devine Son of God, died to pay the price for your sins. His perfect sacrifice extinguishes the need for your perfection. And, being God, He rose again- Hallelujah!

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 07, 2022 03:53 PM (J/Vk/)

153 I don’t mind a troll, but I object to a cut-rate one.

— Chuy Bogart

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 03:53 PM (SffTi)

154 Oooh, AOC is officially under investigation by the House Ethics Committe. Posted by: Jordan61

Get back to me when the FBI raids her panty drawer. That is when we will know her days are numbered.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 07, 2022 03:53 PM (c1mVn)

155 >Pete Davidson has banged the following....
>Ariana Grande, Kate Beckinsale, Kim Kardashian and Emily Rostankowski.

The clarion call of crazy.

Also, life is unfair. Drugged up joker.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 07, 2022 03:53 PM (44ww/)

156 It no surprise that FedGov operators know how far to bend, how far they can subvert and what they can "legally" get away with when FedGov defines the very laws being bent and subverted to justify the end result.

It's the perfect environment for said coup.

It continues today.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2022 03:54 PM (Q4IgG)

157 67 >Their fallback position from we didn't order SM to suppress, so it is not a per se 1A violation is that they defrauded SM so that they would suppress and limit people's speech?

I am not buying it. We are early in on this op, hardly more than 72 hours, and this is what is being given up? I'll wait for more.
...
You're probably right. This is what we have, so far.
Posted by: Anthony
-----------------------------
Then I will cut to the chase. It is likely that both Joe Biden and his son Hunter were and are on the books as FBI informants where essentially admitting to kompromat allows them to go free but allows control of both. Ditto for a bunch of other Dem and GOP politicos.

Essentially the FBI/CIA intel community has become a Praetorian Guard that prevents honest people from winning office or if in office from exercising any power.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2022 03:54 PM (bDjBG)

158 Farmer Bob, you said it better than I did!

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 07, 2022 03:54 PM (IdLgA)

159 How do you do, fellow life-long republican?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 07, 2022 03:55 PM (44ww/)

160 Might Have Prepared the Battlespace So That Twitter Would Believe That
==
Byron York is dead to me. Here's why:

"Might" = um no, there's no uncertainty FBI were up to their necks in bad acting. "prepared the Battlespace" = telling them repeatedly, weekly that there's this hack thing taking place, and then going golly there is it is a nice way to say "ran a disinfo op" on a US media company - "would believe that"= makes it seem as if twitter had no Agency at all. FFS?

This is the pre spin, spin that yes liberties were taken with a few female party guests.

I used to think he was decent. NOT ANYMORE.

Posted by: What a load of Shit at December 07, 2022 03:55 PM (nhnZG)

161 i am outraged!!!

Posted by: Big Alfredo at December 07, 2022 03:55 PM (Vdukr)

162 Oooh, AOC is officially under investigation by the House Ethics Committee.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2022 03:50 PM (DRSnL)
.......

They just want to date her.

Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 03:55 PM (v0R5T)

163 "some sort of 2016-style foreign election interference"
_________
Which, oddly enough, didn't happen.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 07, 2022 03:55 PM (TgBWG)

164 Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 07, 2022 03:53 PM (44ww/)

Hollywood is a strange evil place.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 07, 2022 03:55 PM (ZnU/z)

165 I think we're talking about a fucking coup here, myself. - Posted Ace.

A coup here, a slow rolling insurrection against Trump there, elections masquerading as ballot generation exercises, and now outright raids, takedowns, and jailing of Biden's political opponents - why I must conclude that the "Sacred Democracy" is as healthy as can be.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 07, 2022 03:48 PM (c1mVn)

I am sensing sarcasm.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 07, 2022 03:55 PM (hgD8w)

166 I think it is not unreasonable for them to warn the press about possible upcoming propaganda to watch out for.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 03:47 PM (0hOvj)

What's it got to do with them?

Why even bother having a media if they can't determine what might be a lie? What is it exactly that they do here, if not exactly that?

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2022 03:55 PM (I0KiK)

167 >> AOC is officially under investigation by the House Ethics Committe.


They, like us, got tired of waiting on that sextape.

Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (eo2rU)

168 Why is AOC under investigation?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (vH/6k)

169 >>Essentially the FBI/CIA intel community has become a Praetorian Guard that prevents honest people from winning office or if in office from exercising any power.

bingo

The intel community runs DC.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (ZLI7S)

170 156 >Pete Davidson has banged the following....
>Ariana Grande, Kate Beckinsale, Kim Kardashian and Emily Rostankowski.

The clarion call of crazy.

Also, life is unfair. Drugged up joker.
Posted by: BourbonChicken
--------------------------------
Never wise to envy degenerates. 'Winning' under Stan's terms means risking an eternal loss.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (bDjBG)

171 121 Posted by: leoncaruthers

You still haven't surrendered. That's the hardest part by far.
Posted by: polynikes at December 07, 2022 03:46 PM (MrIOU)

Absolutely true. That you want God and to feel His peace in your heart in spite of the feeling of despair that it can happen is quite difficult but you can overcome with His help. Keep asking for God's love to reveal itself to you. It will happen in God's time. While you wait on Him, keep reminding yourself as many times a day as you can whether a course of action would bring you closer to Him or farther away. And consider each step forward or backward as a learning experience in the way of carrying your particular cross.

Prayers up for you 🙏

Posted by: Just Lily at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (csbfn)

172 They just want to date her.
Posted by: wth

"Date" implies a dignity that that relationship won't have.

Just saying.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (qoGsy)

173 The FBI must be destroyed.
All agents must become unemployed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (XvPQV)

174 Also, life is unfair. Drugged up joker.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 07, 2022 03:53 PM (44ww/)


He seriously looks strung out like all the time. There have to be better looking guys with big dicks, FFS.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (DRSnL)

175 The FBI needs to be disbanded.

The entire Intel Community needs to be jailed in a SuperMax Facility.
Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 03:18 PM (eo2rU)

Which is then launched into the Sun...in Minecraft, of course.
Posted by: Thrawn at December 07, 2022 03:21 PM (Rl7KJ)

burn
scatter
salt
nuke
lather
rinse
repeat

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (Mkvkw)

176 Essentially the FBI/CIA intel community has become a Praetorian Guard that prevents honest people from winning office or if in office from exercising any power.
==
Heh. So how long you figure that's been going on?

Posted by: Zombie J. Edgar Hooverbloob at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (nhnZG)

177 Bulgaroctonus, we refer to the "four hymn sandwich" often as Catholics. All hymns are generally sung by the congregation, but each parish has its own norms. We do a great deal of chant at our parish, and since it's kinda new to us many of the people in the pews do not join in. We also cut back on the hymns during Lent and the first part of Advent to encourage silent reflection.

Posted by: Catherine at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (ZSsrh)

178 It's just a paraphrase of Paul Ellis' Gospel in 10 words.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (J/Vk/)

179 I bet Ariana licked his donut.

Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (v0R5T)

180 osted by: BourbonChicken at December 07, 2022 03:55 PM (44ww/)

Cut taxes! Viva la small business! Cut moar taxes!

Did we mention cutting taxes?

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (ZnU/z)

181 I mean, does the whole congregation stand up and sing (or, in my case, belt out) hymns periodically throughout the service?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

Yes.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (3PEtM)

182 @150

>>I assume the FBI was wiretapping Trump from 2015 to the present.

I'm going to go with the FBI has had a Trump file going back to the early 80's.

Trump has been in the public Zeitgeist for over 40 years.

He's not just some schmo that popped up in the last 7 years.

I will say that after the Obama birth certificate incident, that is when the LE/IC/Deep State really dug into Trump and they were probably as startled as everyone else on how squeaky clean the guy is.

I mean, they have to literally invent crimes to even give their bullshit persecutions a gloss of legitimacy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (nYEBo)

183 >>The clarion call of crazy.


Also, the benefit of being an actual straight man in hollywood.

Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (eo2rU)

184 Why is AOC under investigation?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (vH/6k)


Supposedly for violating gift rules for the Met Gala thing.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (DRSnL)

185 142 Seems to me that all the Russia Russia nonsense was just the pretext for the campaign spying. […]

Posted by: Suppressed Flasher at December 07, 2022 03:50 PM (6jjwt)

It’s kind of interesting how the demonization of Russia dovetailed so nicely with the interests of DC swamp creatures. They got to smear a president they didn’t like as a traitor and then fatten their bank accounts a few years later by dumping money into Ukraine.

Posted by: Supreme Gentleman at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (xSTgL)

186 >>Why is AOC under investigation?

Lotta people want to date her.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (ZLI7S)

187 An honest judiciary would still hold this as government censorship.
CEO's and mob bosses sit in jail on less direct orders than this.

Clownworld that we live in now says it's not just legal but necessary and mandatory.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (F/qcc)

188 While you wait on Him, keep reminding yourself as many times a day as you can whether a course of action would bring you closer to Him or farther away. And consider each step forward or backward as a learning experience in the way of carrying your particular cross.

Prayers up for you 🙏
Posted by: Just Lily

Nice Just Lily! Amen

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (qoGsy)

189 Posted by: leoncaruthers

Leon, Please see why post at the end of the last thread.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (vH/6k)

190 Remember when they were gonna "prosecute" Hunter? There was a reliable source that had it on good authority. And "we" spent a day or two talking about that.

Then the crickets come but along with them a lot more noise. And we talk about that.

Is any of this getting through?

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (I0KiK)

191 Posted by: Ian S. at December 07, 2022 03:50 PM (ZGrMX)

Well in regard to the rail strike a number of locals accepted the compromise. So yeah they are wreckers IMO. And Klaus would likely want a strike. The more chaos the more control they can weed out of it.

Posted by: polynikes at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (MrIOU)

192 It's been a Deep State takeover of the government for decades

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 07, 2022 03:58 PM (xhxe8)

193 I said earlier 'the commies won'. I mispoke. Commies never win, they take, they steal, they enslave, they murder. What they sell is bought by fools and criminals and if those people ever realise (probably they won't), it won't make any difference. The commies got what they want.

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2022 03:58 PM (0OP+5)

194 Here's the AOC story:

https://is.gd/cjMNju

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2022 03:58 PM (DRSnL)

195 Why is AOC under investigation?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (vH/6k)
........

She hasn't shown us her tatas yet.

Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 03:58 PM (v0R5T)

196 Interesting that we make assumptions regarding "dating" that we used to not. It was actually an actionable defamation to question a woman's chastity with damages presumed (ie- not needing proven).

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 07, 2022 03:59 PM (J/Vk/)

197 It's been a Deep State takeover of the government for decades
Posted by: Skip's phone

"That's a bunch of bullsh"

-- Zombie JFK

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 03:59 PM (qoGsy)

198 Leider sind die Deutschen weitgehend wie Amerikaner geworden, hoffnungslose liberale Dickköpfe. Lesen Sie die Kommentare bei Der Spengler. Es ist ein Kollektivfresser, der kleine Kinder verängstigt, die in Kriege des Staates gekommen sind. Sie sehen überall Buhmänner, vor allem in der AfD, die jeden ihrer Shibboleths herausfordern.

Posted by: Marcus T, Harmeet Dhillon for GOP Chair at December 07, 2022 03:59 PM (tDEa7)

199 The FBI conducted a psy-op to influence social media in the coverage of an election.

If such conduct is sanctioned under their charter, it was clearly misused to achieve an illegal purpose.

If it is not so sanctioned, such conduct is in and of itself illegal.

Which is it?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 07, 2022 03:59 PM (oVJIF)

200 She hasn't shown us her tatas yet.
Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 03:58 PM (v0R5T)

Tits or GTFO. It is the way.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 07, 2022 03:59 PM (XvPQV)

201 They aren't guessing, they know the FBI was spying on their communications.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 03:48 PM (ZLI7S)

Yes, but why is everyone cutting Twitter some slack. A plausible scenario is that the FBI discussed the laptop with them, told them they want it debunked, and Twitter said "Sure!" Then the FBI created this subterfuge for Twitter's deniability.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2022 03:59 PM (XIJ/X)

202 Time to watch Yuri Bezmenov again.

He really did have this nailed decades ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 04:00 PM (ZLI7S)

203 Kind of funny that the FBI would go to all this trouble when people like Roth and Zuckerburg would've quickly censored it themselves anyway.

Hell, a simple phone call from the FBI telling them to kill it would've sufficed.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 07, 2022 04:00 PM (KbCG3)

204 The red rat commie bastards of the Democrat Party are our opponents. The Republican Leadership is our enemy.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at December 07, 2022 04:00 PM (yQpMk)

205 They, like us, got tired of waiting on that sextape.

lol

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 07, 2022 04:00 PM (Xrfse)

206 199 Leider sind die Deutschen weitgehend wie Amerikaner geworden, hoffnungslose liberale Dickköpfe. Lesen Sie die Kommentare bei Der Spengler. Es ist ein Kollektivfresser, der kleine Kinder verängstigt, die in Kriege des Staates gekommen sind. Sie sehen überall Buhmänner, vor allem in der AfD, die jeden ihrer Shibboleths herausfordern.
Posted by: Marcus T, Harmeet Dhillon for GOP Chair at December 07, 2022 03:59 PM (tDEa7)

Get the children back! He's speaking in tongues!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 07, 2022 04:01 PM (XvPQV)

207 >>Time to watch Yuri Bezmenov again.


We were warned. Over and over again.

Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 04:01 PM (eo2rU)

208 Interesting that we make assumptions regarding "dating" that we used to not. It was actually an actionable defamation to question a woman's chastity with damages presumed (ie- not needing proven).

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 07, 2022 03:59 PM (J/Vk/)

Virtue of feminism.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Disinformation Demon at December 07, 2022 04:01 PM (hgD8w)

209 >>Essentially the FBI/CIA intel community has become a Praetorian Guard that prevents honest people from winning office or if in office from exercising any power.


Now you have to ask why?
What was Trump going to do that was so important that they had to destroy the village?

Or, what are the dems and intel community doing that we don't know about that they would do all this just to keep it under wraps/

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 04:01 PM (dQiv4)

210 Didn't we already connect all of these dots?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 07, 2022 03:44 PM (J/Vk/)

The trillion dollar question. The ever relevant question.

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2022 04:01 PM (I0KiK)

211 147 Sid the troll is really a discount troll and even then whoever is picking up the tab is getting robbed.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Dr. Faustus, by Christopher Marlowe has Mephistopheles tell us what Sid's real life is like--"Why this is Hell nor am I out of it."

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2022 04:01 PM (bDjBG)

212 She hasn't shown us her tatas yet.
Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 03:58 PM (v0R5T)

Thank God for even small favors. It wouldn't improve my opinion of her if she showed her tatas.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2022 04:01 PM (vH/6k)

213 >>Yes, but why is everyone cutting Twitter some slack. A plausible scenario is that the FBI discussed the laptop with them, told them they want it debunked, and Twitter said "Sure!" Then the FBI created this subterfuge for Twitter's deniability.

Oh I'm not. If it sounded that way that was bad wording on my part.

Big Tech has been owned by the intel community from the jump. Been saying it for years. Google got a bunch of it's seed money from the CIA and they never left.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 04:02 PM (ZLI7S)

214 187 >>Why is AOC under investigation?

Lotta people want to date her.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (ZLI7S)

wrong verb

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at December 07, 2022 04:02 PM (XvPQV)

215 And Trump is 100% right-- the Constitution has no remedy for this level of corruption and breach.

This is an ultra vires act that voids all contracts.

It is not unconstitutional-- it's completely outside the Constitution, the theft, the coercion, the lies, the coup.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at December 07, 2022 04:02 PM (F/qcc)

216 No, I've actually given up. I don't talk to Him anymore except to express resentment. I try to tell my kid that "Life is a gift" and my voice damned near breaks trying to say it because I don't believe it. I'm baffled that anyone finds peace in Him rather than just one more insurmountable challenge.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at December 07, 2022 04:02 PM (UfRqq)

217 A laptop that they had for 9 months and new GODDAM well was authentic
==
We still fucking have it. And have done nothing. Well, not true, we have used it to control the presidency.

Posted by: Zombie J. Edgar Hooverbloob at December 07, 2022 04:02 PM (4wc6O)

218 Twitter may be a private company but if it was working hand in hand with the Feds then it was acting as a Government Agent and thus subject to 1st Amendment laws. Also it probably wouldn't take much digging to find some Fed money going into Twitter pockets or Twit-employee pockets, thus same rules.

Posted by: Ciampino -- what goes around comes around at December 07, 2022 04:03 PM (qfLjt)

219 4 "The entire Intel Community needs to be jailed in a SuperMax Facility"

Gitmo comes to mind.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 07, 2022 04:03 PM (oVJIF)

220 My 11 YO nephew didn't know Han shot first.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at December 07, 2022 04:03 PM (AD14M)

221 Yes, but why is everyone cutting Twitter some slack. A plausible scenario is that the FBI discussed the laptop with them, told them they want it debunked, and Twitter said "Sure!" Then the FBI created this subterfuge for Twitter's deniability.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2022 03:59 PM (XIJ/X)
++++
That's more complicated than things need to be. That's a major and complicated cover-up for something that, at the time, nobody expected to ever become public knowledge. That's real 10-dimensional chess.

I think it's more likely that what is described is akin to what actually happened. They just spoke in their vague terms about "hack and leak" operations (with or without the prior knowledge that the story was about drop) and knew that the commissars would know what to do. They did know what to do. They did it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2022 04:03 PM (t0OGg)

222 Suspected German coup plot spawns dozens of arrests
______________

Night of the Long Knives Short Dicks

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 07, 2022 04:03 PM (YqDXo)

223 May Mike Lindell beat McDaniel
Posted by: thathalfrican


Like a piñata at a kid's birthday party.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 04:03 PM (iqzch)

224 Hey, apropos of nothing... what happened to that rail strike? Seems like it was supposed to start today, wasn't it?

Can't we just shut down DC somehow?
Posted by: GanGanowicz at December 07, 2022 03:34 PM (Kbz60)

I think Congress passed something to avert it, which was of course signed by Biden.
Posted by: Thrawn at December 07, 2022 03:41 PM (Rl7KJ

I think we'll start seeing unexpected slowdowns of vital goods deliveries.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 07, 2022 04:04 PM (BdMk6)

225
"I'm so sorry" and "I'll try not to do it again" pretty much covers it if you are sincere.
Posted by: Tonypete


Hey, if you can fake sincerity, you've got it made.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 07, 2022 04:04 PM (n+4am)

226 Collin Rugg @CollinRugg · 4h
JUST IN: Jack Dorsey Tells Elon Musk to release everything on "Twitter Files" without filter.

That’s kinda hard to do @jack when FBI operatives are scrubbing information.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 04:04 PM (Vwz3I)

227 c'mon guys...just a bunch of ham n eggers, nothing to see here.

Posted by: dillholio at December 07, 2022 04:04 PM (OTqIS)

228 Get back to me when the FBI raids her panty drawer. That is when we will know her days are numbered.
Posted by: Lost in Space at December 07, 2022 03:53 PM (c1mVn)


Or at least if the days are printed on her underwear,

Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2022 04:04 PM (xhaym)

229 Now you have to ask why?
What was Trump going to do that was so important that they had to destroy the village?

Or, what are the dems and intel community doing that we don't know about that they would do all this just to keep it under wraps/
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest
----------------------
His actions threatened trillions at stake in creating the latest world empire of economic globalism. In that world without borders, literally the US is a mine of wealth to be taken and used to finance the envisioned future.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2022 04:04 PM (bDjBG)

230 "Pete Davidson has banged the following.... "

I hope there will be a social media video post when his dick falls off.

Posted by: Marcus T, Harmeet Dhillon for GOP Chair at December 07, 2022 04:04 PM (tDEa7)

231 Sort of an aside, but Ro Kahanna was not concerned about the 1st Amendment because he cares about the free speech rights of conservatives. He wanted to avoid Republican charges that left wing tech companies should not have protections under sec 230.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson DeSantis/Lake 2024 at December 07, 2022 04:05 PM (vN+oL)

232 Please don't give up leoncaruthers. Far be it for me to offer a path forward but perhaps noodle on the idea that all of us are broken, sinful folks. Each one of us. Yet, He loves us anyway and wants us to see Him later.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 04:05 PM (qoGsy)

233 "Heh. So how long you figure that's been going on?" Posted by: Zombie J. Edgar Hooverbloob

right ... Eisenhower and JFK warned of the "DeepState". "they" stopped JFK, and it seems "they" stopped Nixon, after he won in a landslide.

It does seem we are approaching some sort of "end game", but I thought that 20 years ago.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2022 04:05 PM (Cus5s)

234 Thanks, Catherine.

I apologize and ask your and the other Hordians’ forgiveness for any comments that I made on the previous thread about Catholicism that were ignorant and/or offensive. I mean no offense to anyone, and any offense that I committed was purely unintentional. My perceived “need” to post often outruns my duty to think first. I need to work on that.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at December 07, 2022 04:05 PM (SffTi)

235 to sum up the comments so far;
tattas, salvation, soviet strategy, and a coup.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (dQiv4)

236 disclosetv · 3h
JUST IN - German raids target "Reichsbürger" group who allegedly plotted to overthrow the government.

Over 3000 police officers detained 25 people.

||An estimated 50 men and women are alleged to have been part of the group, said to have plotted to overthrow the republic and replace it with a new state modelled on the Germany of 1871 – an empire called the Second Reich.

“We don’t yet have a name for this group,” said a spokeswoman for the federal prosecutor’s office. The interior minister said it was apparently made up of an organisation “council” and a military arm.

Wednesday’s dawn raids are being described as one of the biggest anti-extremism operations in modern German history. Three thousand officers took part in 150 operations in 11 of Germany’s 16 states, with two people arrested in Austria and Italy.

Almost half of arrests took place in southern states of Baden-Württemberg and Bavaria.||

Mmm. Reichsbürgers.

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (Vwz3I)

237 They, like us, got tired of waiting on that sextape.
Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (eo2rU)


I imagine any sex tape of hers would involve her soyboi thrusting frantically for thirty seconds while she lies there with a puzzled "what's going on?" look on her face. Afterwards, she eats a nice carrot, and he huddles in a corner and weeps.

Posted by: spindrift at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (h5TKJ)

238 No, I've actually given up. I don't talk to Him anymore except to express resentment. I try to tell my kid that "Life is a gift" and my voice damned near breaks trying to say it because I don't believe it. I'm baffled that anyone finds peace in Him rather than just one more insurmountable challenge.
Posted by: leoncaruthers at December 07, 2022 04:02 PM (UfRqq)


God does not run the world to your specification.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (xhaym)

239 IllTemperedCur, you can't fake anything when you face He who is Truth itself.

Hang in there, dude whose nic I can't copy because my old iPad hates me. God already knows.

Posted by: Catherine at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (ZSsrh)

240 >>Yet, He loves us anyway and wants us to see Him later.

Even garrett?

Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (ZLI7S)

241 Thank God for even small favors. It wouldn't improve my opinion of her if she showed her tatas.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2022 04:01 PM (vH/6k)
........

You never know. She might put on those pasty thingies with tassles and twirl them in opposite directions.
Pretty impressive stuff.

Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (v0R5T)

242 Also, the benefit of being an actual straight man in hollywood.
Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (eo2rU)

Guys who have done that much drugs probably have sampled the sausage at some point regardless.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 07, 2022 04:07 PM (44ww/)

243 Posted by: leoncaruthers at December 07, 2022 04:02 PM (UfRqq)

Please find a competent spiritual Director. As Noted in the last thread, you can get spiritual direction from your priest or minister, but there are people who are specially trained to do this and they will see anyone. Best place to find them is at retreat centers in your state.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2022 04:07 PM (vH/6k)

244 I'm baffled that anyone finds peace in Him rather than just one more insurmountable challenge.

I feel that I have some moral authority here in my situation and I can only say that some times it is awfully hard to see God's goodness and providence in things that happen. But in time, He will always shine through and it will begin to make sense again, some day.

God doesn't demand any more than He provides. Its just hard sometimes to see that in this veil of tears.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 04:07 PM (0hOvj)

245 >>I imagine any sex tape of hers would involve her soyboi thrusting frantically for thirty seconds while she lies there with a puzzled "what's going on?" look on her face.


Or...and just hear me out on this, instead of a carrot, she gets a visit from The Gangbang Squad?

Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 04:08 PM (eo2rU)

246 to sum up the comments so far;
tattas, salvation, soviet strategy, and a coup.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest
---
All the makings of a good country song, except a dog.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 07, 2022 04:08 PM (IdLgA)

247 This is why every movie that shows the FBI as a bunch of incompetent, corrupt fuckholes of fuckitude to have ever butt fucked the anus of democracy is now automatically on my top 25 list of best movies, beginning with the Christmas movie, Die Hard.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Supporting Endangered Boobies And Gainzzz at December 07, 2022 04:08 PM (VTu1l)

248 Mmm. Reichsbürgers.
Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (Vwz3I)


Isn't that what they call Quarter Pounders in Germany?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 07, 2022 04:08 PM (yQpMk)

249 I've actually given up. I don't talk to Him anymore except to express resentment. I try to tell my kid that "Life is a gift" and my voice damned near breaks trying to say it because I don't believe it. I'm baffled that anyone finds peace in Him rather than just one more insurmountable challenge.
==
I used to be the kind of guy who being smart, disciplined, well educated, and motivated, thought I can handle anything that came up. I then had 3 special needs kids in a row. I went another 10 years still trying to do it through my own power. It broke me. I was falling apart and failing. It was not survivable. I don't know why, but one new years resolution was to take up prayer. I decided to pray the rosary once a week. Read a book, secret of the rosary written by a saint, looked up how to pray it. Did once it. Cried spontaneously. Never stopped praying. Every day ever since. Started taking Church seriously. Reading the Bible. Read book of Tobit first. Working on a commentary of Job, now. Its nuts. That change didn't come from me. I made a decision, acted, and then something else stepped in - Grace. Life is still hard, but a lot more manageable.

Posted by: I'm no proselytizer, but at December 07, 2022 04:08 PM (oeGIe)

250 Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (v0R5T)

Nothing about AOC would impress me unless she resigned from Congress.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2022 04:08 PM (vH/6k)

251 Pretty impressive stuff.
Posted by: wth

As long as there is free eye bleach offered at the same time.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 07, 2022 04:08 PM (3PEtM)

252 >>Even garrett?


Now you are just being silly.

Posted by: garrett at December 07, 2022 04:09 PM (eo2rU)

253 Why is AOC under investigation?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2022 03:56 PM (vH/6k)
........

She hasn't shown us her tatas yet.
Posted by: wth at December 07, 2022 03:58 PM (v0R5T)

i'm still shocked she doesn't have pics out SOMEWHERE yet, at least.

you know she's vain enough to have video too..

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 07, 2022 04:09 PM (Mkvkw)

254 Tucker has part 2 oh Biden Inc special today it is crazy

Posted by: Summer at December 07, 2022 04:09 PM (ltJ1p)

255 Bulguroctanus, I guess I'm glad I missed the previous thread. And we Catholics are pretty much used to stuff like that. A Catholic author once said that when the government persecutes use we "yawn in amazement." Consider yourself forgiven by me.

Posted by: Catherine at December 07, 2022 04:09 PM (ZSsrh)

256 Its nuts. That change didn't come from me. I made a decision, acted, and then something else stepped in - Grace. Life is still hard, but a lot more manageable.

The Hound of Heaven is a book (well, a poem) all about a man who runs from God and tries to avoid Him and finally is chased down by grace and cannot escape

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 04:10 PM (0hOvj)

257 If AOC would sit on a cactus 🌵 and rotate I would be impressed

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 07, 2022 04:10 PM (xhxe8)

258 I think it's more likely that what is described is akin to what actually happened. They just spoke in their vague terms about "hack and leak" operations (with or without the prior knowledge that the story was about drop) and knew that the commissars would know what to do. They did know what to do. They did it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) a

You left out the "off the record" phone calls where key people talked and asked specifically about the laptop and Plod of the Swap confirmed

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 04:10 PM (dQiv4)

259 Lotta people want to date her.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 03:57 PM (ZLI7S)

wrong verb

*******

yes, the correct verb is "exited"

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Supporting Endangered Boobies And Gainzzz at December 07, 2022 04:10 PM (VTu1l)

260 to sum up the comments so far;
tattas, salvation, soviet strategy, and a coup.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest
---
All the makings of a good country song, except a dog.
Posted by: screaming in digital

I accept cash tips.
https://tinyurl.com/3n3derd5

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 07, 2022 04:10 PM (c1mVn)

261 152 Our best efforts at righteousness *are* bullshit, not to mention our sin. He took the punishment we deserved and gives us His righteousness.
Posted by: screaming in digital at December 07, 2022 03:53 PM (IdLgA)

An Earthly Father whose approval could never be won is depressing enough.

Having yet ANOTHER Father whose approval can never be won is damn near suicide-levels of depressing.

Posted by: XTC at December 07, 2022 04:10 PM (UnA8+)

262 God does not run the world to your specification.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (xhaym)

Man plans and God laughs!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 07, 2022 04:10 PM (XIJ/X)

263 If Jesus can save me, anyone can be saved.

"To you they cried out and were saved;
in you they trusted and were not put to shame."

Psalm 22:5

Posted by: Marcus T, Harmeet Dhillon for GOP Chair at December 07, 2022 04:10 PM (tDEa7)

264 Hell, a simple phone call from the FBI telling them to kill it would've sufficed.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 07, 2022 04:00 PM (KbCG3)

And it will eventually boil down to exactly that.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 07, 2022 04:11 PM (BdMk6)

265 "Yeah, yeah, the FBI have a lot of buffers - ha!"

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2022 04:11 PM (+Cgut)

266 I made a decision, acted, and then something else stepped in - Grace. Life is still hard, but a lot more manageable.

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A very nice story. We all need to hear victories like this. They help motivate the rest of us, and sometimes we need the motivation of others before us.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at December 07, 2022 04:11 PM (sX1BW)

267 DINOSAURS!

Posted by: godsaidmansaiddotcom at December 07, 2022 04:11 PM (eo2rU)

268 Philadelphia gas station owner divides city by hiring heavily armed guards
‘We are tired of this nonsense; robbery, drug trafficking, hanging around, gangs’


https://bit.ly/3HkJ6so


Way to go Philly! You made vigilante justice possible!

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 04:11 PM (iqzch)

269 I imagine any sex tape of hers would involve her soyboi thrusting frantically for thirty seconds while she lies there with a puzzled "what's going on?" look on her face. Afterwards, she eats a nice carrot, and he huddles in a corner and weeps.

Posted by: spindrift at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (h5TKJ)

Oh, there’s a sex tape all right. Her boyfriend isn’t in it. Heh heh.

Posted by: Ted Kennedy at December 07, 2022 04:11 PM (xSTgL)

270 I don't talk to Him anymore except to express resentment

Posted by: leoncaruthers at December 07, 2022 04:02 PM (UfRqq)
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I totally get it, but that's a shame. His language is gratitude. And although I don't know your story I am certain you have had many blessings. Many things to be grateful for, even now. Things you have that some would give everything for. Like two working legs.

Please don't read this as me not feeling sorry for whatever has happened to you. Whatever you've lost, or however you've been hurt.

I actively try to quiet my own resentful feelings and speak to Him in gratitude and it helps me feel better. You could argue I do it *because* it helps me feel better. It's a choice I have. And I'm fortunate the days when I'm not overtaken by negative feelings, but it does happen.

And when I say better I mean a different kind of "better" than the resentment truck. A better better. I dunno. I will pray for you anyway if you don't mind.

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (I0KiK)

271 One speck of good news: the Loudoun County school superintendent who lied and stonewalled about the teenage girl getting raped by a tranny, has been fired.

Posted by: Dr. T at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (bhRsz)

272 Speaking of tatas, there was a commercial on the other day for some new show on AMC. I wasn't paying attention, and my husband said, "isn't that whats-her-face, the one with the nice boobs?" I immediately said, "Alexandra Daddario?" And he laughed and said, "I love that you knew exactly who I meant."

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (DRSnL)

273 217 No, I've actually given up. I don't talk to Him anymore except to express resentment. I try to tell my kid that "Life is a gift" and my voice damned near breaks trying to say it because I don't believe it. I'm baffled that anyone finds peace in Him rather than just one more insurmountable challenge.
Posted by: leoncaruthers at December 07, 2022 04:02 PM (UfRqq)

You don't "find" peace in Him. He gives it to you.

It is not something lacking in you or anything you have done. It is ALL a gift from Him. Keep speaking your resentment to Him. He can take it. He knows what place you are in and what is really going on with you. You need to get it off your chest so you can move forward. If you try to manufacture peace in your heart yourself you will not be able to, life is too hard for us to cry "peace where there is no peace". Just speak your resentment, ask for forgiveness for anything you may have done and wait.

It is that easy. And that hard. Crosses are looked upon with dismay for a reason. This is a tough one but you will have the help you need.

Posted by: Just Lily at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (csbfn)

274 217 No, I've actually given up. I don't talk to Him anymore except to express resentment. I try to tell my kid that "Life is a gift" and my voice damned near breaks trying to say it because I don't believe it. I'm baffled that anyone finds peace in Him rather than just one more insurmountable challenge.
Posted by: leoncaruthers

Sounds like the dialogue at the Book of Job. It is never an insurmountable challenge to keep one's heart open to our Lord. That is simply one of Stan's tricks. Life on Earth is but a honing and forging of one's soul for transformation. It is where we find the Book of Knowledge of Good and Evil to be bitter because humans are always fallible and the trials and tribulations that one endures in this earthly existence are part of that Book.

Remember, the Lord's listening is always present and life is indeed a gift that is both bitter and sweet in part. But it is no sin to be glad that one is alive and to find comfort and peace in viewing his works including your child. Look for good and you will find it. Look for evil, ditto. Life has both of those.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (bDjBG)

275 "Posted by: Catherine at December 07, 2022 04:09 PM (ZSsrh)"

Deus Vult!

Posted by: Marcus T, Harmeet Dhillon for GOP Chair at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (tDEa7)

276 tattas, salvation, soviet strategy, and a coup.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (dQiv4)

On deck...fish puns

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (+Cgut)

277 I don't hate God, but I do hate this country, and ask God to make a way for me to live in a freer country more to my liking, like say Antarctica.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Supporting Endangered Boobies And Gainzzz at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (VTu1l)

278 You left out the "off the record" phone calls where key people talked and asked specifically about the laptop and Plod of the Swap confirmed
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 04:10 PM (dQiv4)
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That's entirely possible, but I think it wasn't mandatory. It may have happened, but needn't have.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (t0OGg)

279 Peru coup update:

*PERU POLICE DETAIN PRESIDENT PEDRO CASTILLO: COMERCIO

*PERU'S DINA BOLUARTE SWORN IN BY CONGRESS AS PRESIDENT

*MEXICO WOULD GIVE ASYLUM TO CASTILLO, MINISTER EBRARD SAYS

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 04:13 PM (Vwz3I)

280 I'm baffled that anyone finds peace in Him rather than just one more insurmountable challenge.
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I believe that some things will never make sense or seem right to my finite mind this side of heaven.

But I believe God is sovereign and at work for His glory and the good of His people. I know it is true and I'm glad it doesn't depend on my poor ability to trust, perceive or feel it in any given moment.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 07, 2022 04:13 PM (IdLgA)

281 And it will eventually boil down to exactly that.

I don't think it has to. These people are all on the same wavelength, they are all NPCs with the same coding. Nobody has to order them to do anything just let them know a few bits of information "this is bad for us" and the NPCs all rush to their phones and computers to do the work required without asking.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 04:13 PM (0hOvj)

282 tattas, salvation, soviet strategy, and a coup.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (dQiv4)

On deck...fish puns
Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (+Cgut)



and there will be carping about it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 07, 2022 04:13 PM (yQpMk)

283 I could care less about Kim Kardashian or Ariana Grande, but Kate Beckingsdale and Emily Ratjakowsi—-that’s impressive

Must be nice to have a 9” dick

Posted by: JoeF. at December 07, 2022 04:13 PM (fwokK)

284 I was today years old when I found out there is an element called Niobium.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 07, 2022 04:13 PM (z/ifB)

285 Yet, He loves us anyway and wants us to see Him later.

Even garrett?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM (ZLI7S)

i think he has to renounce the crocs...

Posted by: SturmToddler at December 07, 2022 04:14 PM (Mkvkw)

286 and there will be carping about it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 07, 2022 04:13 PM (yQpMk)

Just for the halibut?

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2022 04:14 PM (+Cgut)

287 >>Must be nice to have a 9” dick


It is, how do you say? Nice.

Posted by: The Paolo at December 07, 2022 04:14 PM (eo2rU)

288 Philadelphia gas station owner divides city by hiring heavily armed guards
‘We are tired of this nonsense; robbery, drug trafficking, hanging around, gangs’


https://bit.ly/3HkJ6so


Way to go Philly! You made vigilante justice possible!
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2022 04:11 PM (iqz

I'm sure Philly will crack down on this, unlike crime.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 07, 2022 04:14 PM (eoQWY)

289 I was today years old when I found out there is an element called Niobium.

****

is that made from soylent green?

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Supporting Endangered Boobies And Gainzzz at December 07, 2022 04:14 PM (VTu1l)

290 Keep speaking your resentment to Him. He can take it. He knows what place you are in and what is really going on with you.

I love that so many of the Psalms are basically David or some other writer going "WHAT THE ACTUAL F*** GOD???"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 04:14 PM (0hOvj)

291 and there will be carping about it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 07, 2022 04:13 PM (yQpMk)


Not seriously, just for the halibut.

Posted by: Dr. T at December 07, 2022 04:14 PM (bhRsz)

292 I don't think it has to. These people are all on the same wavelength, they are all NPCs with the same coding. Nobody has to order them to do anything just let them know a few bits of information "this is bad for us" and the NPCs all rush to their phones and computers to do the work required without asking.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 04:13 PM (0hOvj)
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I say it all the time, but this is how things tend to work in a mature tyranny. "Working toward the fuhrer."

It's one of the reasons they seem to hate Musk so much. He knows the rules, too - but he chooses to break them. He isn't failing to do what is expected because he doesn't know the rules or he slipped up (thought he was doing the "right" thing, but wasn't), but because he doesn't care to follow their rules.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2022 04:15 PM (t0OGg)

293 Today's "Our Daily Bread" has a devotional today about God's pursuit:

https://odb.org/US/2022/12/07/gods-sure-pursuit

And I like that poem-The Hound of Heaven.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2022 04:15 PM (vH/6k)

294 Read the bible already, prayed a thousand Rosaries. The consolation of prayer evaporated, temptations increased, resentment set in. I go through the motions, but there's nothing there, only inertia. I no longer want Heaven, I just want to be done.

Posted by: leoncaruthers at December 07, 2022 04:15 PM (UfRqq)

295 Even garrett?
Posted by: JackStraw at December 07, 2022 04:06 PM


Blessed are the Crocs wearers.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 07, 2022 04:15 PM (a3Q+t)

296 Peru coup update

I have not been paying very much attention to the news as of late, but this is the first I have heard of a coup in Peru.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 04:15 PM (0hOvj)

297 I love Byron York. I love his blistering exposes. But it seems like they never go anywhere. Maybe it's because people are incapable of absorbing a complicated story, which is the kind Byron usually tells. On the other hand, the MFM is incapable of absorbing even a simple story, if it hurts the narrative. If they saw Hunter fucking a cow on his laptop after a rough night of quaaludes, they still wouldn't believe it. "That cow is a Russian plant!"

Posted by: Caliban at December 07, 2022 04:16 PM (ni2c1)

298 AP - Peru president dissolves congress, which then ousts him

"United States Amb. Lisa Kenna called on Castillo via Twitter to reverse his decree to dissolve Congress, saying the U.S. government rejected any “extra-constitutional” actions by the president to interfere with Congress."

Posted by: Lola at December 07, 2022 04:16 PM (NIYa7)

299 It's the knowing that NO MATTER WHAT, you'll NEVER be good enough, that is the hardest thing to deal with.

Posted by: XTC at December 07, 2022 04:16 PM (UnA8+)

300 i think he has to renounce the crocs...

*********

We all know crocs were the devil's invention, along with marxism, wokeness, the Kardashians, and cauliflower

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Supporting Endangered Boobies And Gainzzz at December 07, 2022 04:16 PM (VTu1l)

301 Nood sister

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 07, 2022 04:16 PM (Kd4bG)

302 Not seriously, just for the halibut.
Posted by: Dr. T at December 07, 2022 04:14 PM (bhRsz)

Bass-akwards, if you ask me.

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2022 04:17 PM (+Cgut)

303 Speaking of tatas, there was a commercial on the other day for some new show on AMC. I wasn't paying attention, and my husband said, "isn't that whats-her-face, the one with the nice boobs?" I immediately said, "Alexandra Daddario?" And he laughed and said, "I love that you knew exactly who I meant."
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (DRSnL)

years back I was at a baseball game with a married couple and he said some similar incomprehensible vague sentence like that and she was dismayed that she indeed knew exactly what he meant instantly.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 07, 2022 04:17 PM (eoQWY)

304 >>Nood sister


That's hot.

Posted by: Jason Bateman at December 07, 2022 04:17 PM (eo2rU)

305 The CEO of a public biotech learned of an adverse ruling from the FDA about its key drug in development. Stupidly, he dumped all his shares. That's insider trading.

The CEO's broker had Martha Stewart as a client and put her in the stock. He called Martha who was on the tarmac going on vacation and advised her to sell because the CEO was. She said yes. As to Martha, that wasn't insider trading, but the laws around this have always been muddy.

The FBI came knocking on her door unnanounced. Their story is that Martha misled them, as duly noted in the paper 302s they filed. The FBI also seized her laptop and went forensic. Martha had deleted an e-mail you see, but then undeleted it.

This is what got Martha in jail. Not insider trading.

The prosecutor responsible was a younger James Comey, still making his bones to get made in the Deep State.

For true justice, I'd put Jimmy Drama in prison GenPop.


Posted by: Ignoramus at December 07, 2022 04:17 PM (SJsWC)

306 nood iran

Posted by: andycanuck (Vwz3I) at December 07, 2022 04:18 PM (Vwz3I)

307 Nood sister
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at December 07, 2022 04:16 PM (Kd4bG)


Not one of mine, I hope.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2022 04:18 PM (DRSnL)

308 There's a kind of spiritual injury that seems to happen when you first really internalize the fact that humanity is shit and the world is completely broken. The early church was born in an era of suffering the like of which the vast majority of people, let alone Americans, can't even conceive of right now. Life, by our standards, well and truly sucked for everyone, rich or poor. Sure, wealth brought some comforts, but if you owned a horse? Congratulations, you're a cavalry man now. And if you refuse we'll kill you, take your horse, throw your kids into the legions, and marry your widow off to whoever is owed a favor this week. The early church was born among people who were so well acquainted with unfairness and suffering they didn't even realize that it wasn't normal.

We, on the other hand, have inherited a world of trust and prosperity to live in that is only occasionally sullied by evil. We see that gift being stolen from us, we see evil taking over, and it's bewildering.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 07, 2022 04:18 PM (9UlRk)

309 I love that so many of the Psalms are basically David or some other writer going "WHAT THE ACTUAL F*** GOD???"

*****************

Hi there!

Posted by: Book of Lamentations at December 07, 2022 04:18 PM (VTu1l)

310 It's the knowing that NO MATTER WHAT, you'll NEVER be good enough, that is the hardest thing to deal with.
Posted by: XTC
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Well, yeah, but that is why Jesus came. To save us when we couldn't do it ourselves. So we could live under grace not under the crushing weight of the law.

I am no theologian but I think that means you can accept Christ's sacrifice and stop trying so hard to win approval on your own.

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 07, 2022 04:18 PM (IdLgA)

311 278 I don't hate God, but I do hate this country, and ask God to make a way for me to live in a freer country more to my liking, like say Antarctica.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger

284 I could care less about Kim Kardashian or Ariana Grande, but Kate Beckingsdale and Emily Ratjakowsi—-that’s impressive

Must be nice to have a 9” dick
Posted by: JoeF.
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Two sides of the same coin. As humans, we always view the grass is greener.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2022 04:18 PM (bDjBG)

312 "Posted by: leoncaruthers at December 07, 2022 04:02 PM (UfRqq) "

I've had to pull myself out of the muck and mire of this life and it's challenges so many times I've lost count. I've watched friends die in despair and hopelessness. I have sinned so much it's hard to remember when that wasn't the case. I've seen more devastation and the worse that mankind has to offer. Yet through it all The Lord was still there for me. In fact I later realize he carried me the entire time. Never lose hope. Always pray for Him to help you understand his purpose. Give him thanks and ask for the strength and will to do good. Don't despair. Care for your fellow man no matter what, as He showed us by his example. Always do everything for His greater glory. It has seen me through many bad times and has been the most rewarding thing in this life.

Posted by: Marcus T, Harmeet Dhillon for GOP Chair at December 07, 2022 04:18 PM (tDEa7)

313 leoncaruthers, none of this is easy. Just keep putting one foot in front of the other and the light will come through. I feel similarly to you right now when I let myself. I don't see a way out of so many problems. But the choice to go through hell or stay there is yours. If you keep going, you eventually are done and can lay your burdens down. As long as you're still breathin' and tryin'.

Posted by: Catherine at December 07, 2022 04:19 PM (ZSsrh)

314 Not one of mine, I hope.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2022 04:18 PM (DRSnL)
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Telling that's your first thought.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 07, 2022 04:19 PM (5pTK/)

315 The one time I actually talk about Jesus and I get willowed....

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 07, 2022 04:19 PM (IdLgA)

316 Well, yeah, but that is why Jesus came. To save us when we couldn't do it ourselves. So we could live under grace not under the crushing weight of the law.

I am no theologian but I think that means you can accept Christ's sacrifice and stop trying so hard to win approval on your own.
Posted by: screaming in digital

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You are wiser than a lot of theologians.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2022 04:19 PM (bDjBG)

317 Over at PC Magazine is a detailed article about how to avoid the Disney+ price increase. Not once did they mention cancel your f'ing subscription and then set fire to the receipts and bank statements that show you once did subscribe.

This is why we can't have nice things like proper rumble bumble high HP V-8's anymore.

Posted by: Lost in Space at December 07, 2022 04:19 PM (c1mVn)

318 Peru coup update:


Dammit! This better not disrupt my supply chain.

Posted by: Hunter Biden, Artiste at December 07, 2022 04:20 PM (v0R5T)

319 272 One speck of good news: the Loudoun County school superintendent who lied and stonewalled about the teenage girl getting raped by a tranny, has been fired.
Posted by: Dr. T at December 07, 2022 04:12 PM (bhRsz)


But not "for cause." So they have to pay out the rest of his $350k contract.

Not exactly sure this qualifies as "accountability."

Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2022 04:20 PM (pwExq)

320 It's easy to love God when everything goes right. The test is when things go wrong. Even if for a lifetime. Because this life time is but a grain of sand in an infinite desert of time beyond this lifetime.

Posted by: polynikes at December 07, 2022 04:21 PM (MrIOU)

321 I no longer want Heaven, I just want to be done.

Been there. Seriously I have been where I didn't even want to be in paradise, I just wanted to cease to exist, to vanish. I keep thinking of that scene in Platoon, which had a few bits. The "bad guy" Sergeant is actually a really good leader while the stoner "good guy" Sargent is basically worthless. In this scene a guy gets hit, bad and is crying out in pain, and they need to keep quiet so they can move safely. The Sarge leans over the guy while they are doing medical work on him and puts his hand over the guy's mouth

"TAKE THE PAIN" he orders. Stay silent and take it. Medical help is on the way. Until then you have a duty to take it. I try to think of that when I'm facing very hard times like right now.

1/2

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 04:21 PM (0hOvj)

322 Escape is not an option. Oblivion cannot happen, Part of being a man is taking what your family cannot, and standing up to it even when it feels like you cannot take another instant inside.

I know this is harsh and cruel sounding, but sometimes that's what we need. Your son needs you, no matter what it costs you. Your son must have his father. You have to solider on for his sake, and for all who love you.

2/2 done preaching

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2022 04:21 PM (0hOvj)

323 Telling that's your first thought.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at December 07, 2022 04:19 PM (5pTK/)


Heh. The batshit crazy one in particular.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2022 04:22 PM (DRSnL)

324 It's called acedia, spiritual dryness. You aren't the first to have it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at December 07, 2022 04:22 PM (uz3Px)

325 Purple is my favorite color!

-- Hillz
-- Barry's Lips

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 07, 2022 04:23 PM (Rbu5d)

326 Who's sister are we talking about?

Posted by: Skip's phone at December 07, 2022 04:24 PM (xhxe8)

327 All the makings of a good country song, except a dog.
Posted by: screaming in digital a

What about mother prison train trucks and farms?

Posted by: Steve Goodman at December 07, 2022 04:25 PM (dQiv4)

328 Leon: There's a parable in the Bible about a tax collector, so broken down in despair over his sin that all he could do was bow his head, beat his breast, and cry, "Lord, have mercy on me, a sinner." It sounds like you're in the same place.

Don't overanalyze it, don't worry about being perfect or meeting some arbitrary standard. Just plead for His mercy. It's really all we can do. The rest will follow.

"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner."

Posted by: Biden's Lonely Neuron at December 07, 2022 04:26 PM (UgCb4)

329 I think we're talking about a fucking coup here, myself.

Posted by: Ace at 03:16 PM

*****

Durham is coming.

Posted by: EFG at December 07, 2022 04:27 PM (Ae67h)

330 What about mother prison train trucks and farms?
Posted by: Steve Goodman
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They can go in verse 2!

Posted by: screaming in digital at December 07, 2022 04:28 PM (IdLgA)

331 294 Read the bible already, prayed a thousand Rosaries. The consolation of prayer evaporated, temptations increased, resentment set in. I go through the motions, but there's nothing there, only inertia. I no longer want Heaven, I just want to be done.
Posted by: leoncaruthers at December 07, 2022 04:15 PM (UfRqq)

Been where you are. It never got better until I let go of the resentment. It was like that was the only thing I had to remember my dead babies by and I couldn't bear to let it go. But I couldn't carry that much resentment. I had to give it over to God. It felt like a part of me was dying to do it. I just flat couldn't carry it any more.

Once I let the resentment go, I was able to come to a place where the memories of my children became a blessing and not a curse to God. And I realized what I had learned from that particular cross.

Posted by: Just Lily at December 07, 2022 04:31 PM (csbfn)

332 Anybody know if a commenter named “Scogg Dog” is still around?

I owe that guy a drink.

Posted by: EFG at December 07, 2022 04:32 PM (Ae67h)

333 50 trump nominated wray
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at December 07, 2022 03:29 PM (MLrvz)

It would be interesting, perhaps enlightening, to know who recommended Wray to the President.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 07, 2022 04:32 PM (Rbu5d)

334 Coup in Peru?? No told told me...,

Posted by: runner at December 07, 2022 04:33 PM (UK2bo)

335 It's about their Worldcup loss, isn't it...

Posted by: runner at December 07, 2022 04:35 PM (UK2bo)

336 One look at Wray's visage and weasel pops to top of list.

Doesn't Trump even measure these people?

Posted by: torabora at December 07, 2022 04:36 PM (aGlce)

337 You can't contemplate what's happening in Peru without factoring in the cocaine trade...and you can bet there's Swamp Critters getting their beaks wet there too.

And a lot of the base material goes to Brazil.

Posted by: torabora at December 07, 2022 04:39 PM (aGlce)

338 I don't think it's accident that Washington DC is 92% Democrat.
That took planning. And the result is it's a rare day a jury there finds a Democrat Party operative guilty. The Democrats are simply better at politics and crime than the Republicans.

Posted by: torabora at December 07, 2022 04:44 PM (aGlce)

339 108
Time to dunk the FBI.

If they float, they are witches.

If they sink, they are very disciplined witches.

Posted by: portlandon at December 07, 2022 03:43 PM (+oR7L)
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If they sink then they have hearts made of stone.

Posted by: Ciampino --- what goes around comes around at December 07, 2022 04:45 PM (qfLjt)

340 Willowed from last thread.

331 294 Read the bible already, prayed a thousand Rosaries. The consolation of prayer evaporated, temptations increased, resentment set in. I go through the motions, but there's nothing there, only inertia. I no longer want Heaven, I just want to be done.
Posted by: leoncaruthers at December 07, 2022 04:15 PM (UfRqq)

Been where you are. It never got better until I let go of the resentment. It was like that was the only thing I had to remember my dead babies by and I couldn't bear to let it go. But I couldn't carry that much resentment. I had to give it over to God. It felt like a part of me was dying to do it. I just flat couldn't carry it any more since I felt already dead anyway.

Once I let the resentment go, I was able to come to a place where the memories of my children became a blessing and not a curse to God. And I realized what I had learned from that particular cross.
Posted by: Just Lily at December 07, 2022 04:31 PM (csbfn)

Posted by: Just Lily at December 07, 2022 04:46 PM (csbfn)

341 Did Trump ask to see his fbi file?

Posted by: Goatweed at December 07, 2022 04:50 PM (0Q/6W)

342 192 It's been a Deep State takeover of the government for decades
Posted by: Skip's phone at December 07, 2022 03:58 PM (xhxe

Hi.
-Pres. Wilson

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at December 07, 2022 04:50 PM (Rbu5d)

343 Yet, He loves us anyway and wants us to see Him later.

Even garrett?
Posted by: JackStraw

*God, standing ala Jack Benny with His chin in His hand.*

"I'm thinking!!"

(Yes, especially garrett!)

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2022 04:50 PM (qoGsy)

344 I don’t understand why the government has the right to pressure private companies not to post information that was hacked, if the information is correct, not since the New York Times/Pentagon Papers case. Just try to imagine Watergate era reporters being warned by the FBI not to release documents taken from the government. They’d laugh in their faces. Of course the same media have no problem reporting on countless illegal leaks from government officials, even after many of them have been proven to be lies.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at December 07, 2022 04:55 PM (1gif2)

345 News Flash:

Deep State organizations are all working to support the Deep State.

Posted by: MartynWW at December 07, 2022 04:57 PM (Ur3df)

346 Do not James Baker's actions in covering up the involvement of the FBI evince a "guilty mind"?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 07, 2022 04:59 PM (oVJIF)

347 Well, the FBI was spying on Trump's then-lawyer Rudy Giuliani's online cloud,

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You Can Be Sure if It's CLOUD.




Posted by: Jf Bezos, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 07, 2022 05:08 PM (AfYvi)

348 I think we're talking about a fucking coup here, myself.

Coy, we much?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at December 07, 2022 05:20 PM (AfYvi)

349 "Did it work?" - Harry Reid

Yes, yes it did work.

Not like Americans are going to do anything about it.

Posted by: JamesTCarville at December 07, 2022 05:20 PM (CWj02)

350 So... didn't the Final Solution work this way too? It's not like old Adolf gave a written "Kill the Jews!" order. He just... sort of let it be known what he would like to see and Himmler and the rest "took steps" but without Adolf's dirty little hands on it.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at December 07, 2022 05:23 PM (Kbz60)

351 55 It's to the point where it is easier to list all the times the DoJ and FIB protect/respect our civil rights as opposed to violating them.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at December 07, 2022 03:29 PM (EDV+E)

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Posted by: Fox2! at December 07, 2022 05:32 PM (ueLz3)

352 How convenient the left simps for megacorps(tm).. Better yet those megacorps are unconstrained by any law man or natural. They're an amoral force of nature. So 9f people or communities are damaged or destroyed, we it's a force majeure! Nothing to see so move on.

Posted by: Xavier Basora at December 07, 2022 06:13 PM (w8x0O)

353 Leoncaruthers

When first my brother died due to some dope smoking moron doing 55 in a 25, and then years later my sister in one of the most horrible ways possible, I cursed God. I was in despair.

But despair is not God's tool. It is Stan's. And this world is Stan's. We only live in it (to be honed, as another moron said). Don't give in to despair. If not for your children, then for the sake of your own soul. Because that's what is most important in the end.

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