Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Nov. 26

We don't have as many places in the USA with flowers blooming as we did a few weeks ago, so we are turning to Neal in Israel for some photos:

Peanut: My son's startup is doing some work on peanuts, and he brought me a few seedlings in 2021. The patch regenerated on its own this summer. If you think that you have followers who assume, as I did, that peanuts grow out of the plant's roots, rather than from its flowers, you might want to includes these shots: 1 - flowers, about the size of a dime; 2 - the spike which grows out of the fertilized flower and burrows into the ground.

Those flowers look like they are in the legume family, don't they. So do the leaves. And it's fascinating how the flowers send out spikes that burrow into the soil to form peanuts!

Thanks, Neal!

Farming, Edible Gardening/Putting Things By

Olives on the tree and in jars: I didn't pickle olives in 2020 or 2021, because the yield was scanty and the flies (olive flies, fruit flies, Mediterranean fruit flies - whatever they were) what little there was on the tree. This year the tree was covered with fruit, and so I decided to invest in pest control in order to guarantee a harvest. Early on, I hung three bottle traps, and a bit later I began weekly applications of Dow Success. The stuff is a poisoned bait, which you spray on a number of spots around and on the tree. The effort helped, but the results were far from 100%.
Since I haven't yet installed my conveyor belt-fed electro-optical quality control system, I had to inspect the olives one by one, cutting out fly-damaged parts to salvage as many olives as possible. After that, I had to hammer them one by one (to split them in order to help the bitterness leach out), since hitting a number of olives with the schnitzel-flattening hammer always led to some of them flying off in random directions.

Those olives were definitely a labor of love!

Limes on the tree and lime marmalade: The lime tree also had a great yield. In addition to distributing fruit to friends and relatives, I squeezed for juice and made two batches of marmalade. I changed the recipe I found a few years back, reducing sugar by about 15%, adding an additional liter of lime juice in place of a liter of water, and using the peels of the additional limes I used to increase the amount of juice. I also learned how to use pectin properly. The result is marmalade with a darker color, which looks a bit murky, but which also tastes much better.

Lime marmalade is distinctive. Good tips!

Mango: The tree yielded about 15 large, tasty fruits.

They look great, Neal!

Niece and nephew bought and moved onto a small farm this year. Raised, butchered and ate a Thanksgiving turkey.

Curious turkey:

Full-grown turkey:

Roasted turkey:

Could you do it? Should you do it?

And here's a pig with a punkin.

Puttering

Still got leftovers? Anticipating more holiday guests? Cooking up some frozen produce?

Gardens of The Horde

From Eromero:

Mrs. E's Easter Lilly sprouts to new life, on the kitchen counter!

Wow!

From Jake:

Flowers blooming in Murrieta, CA
This group of flowers started blooming on the first day of fall and haven't stopped yet.

Beautiful.

Hope everyone has a nice weekend.

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Week in Review

What has changed since last week's thread? Saturday Gardening, Puttering and Adventure Thread, Nov. 19

Any thoughts or questions?

I closed the comments on this post so you wouldn't get banned for commenting on a week-old post, but don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 01:23 PM

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1 Fiiiiirrrst

Posted by: KarlHungus at November 26, 2022 01:28 PM (MhCcX)

2 No way... my first... first

Posted by: KarlHungus at November 26, 2022 01:29 PM (MhCcX)

3 Good afternoon Greenthumbs
Leaf processing, one big batch already and another in a pile.
As much gardening, yesterday made another pot of maple charcoal for grill in spring, or if emergency is needed.
It's a byproduct of lots of maple and pine trees so costs nothing but time

Posted by: Skip at November 26, 2022 01:32 PM (xhxe8)

4 Rookie!

Thanks for the beautiful Gardening Thread KT!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 01:32 PM (4sEm/)

5 About this time of year roses should be blooming in the hotter parts of AZ. They'll bloom in spring, shut down when it gets too hot, then start up again in the fall as temps drop to a more moderate range.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at November 26, 2022 01:33 PM (Bd6X8)

6 That hog is so cute! I bet he loves the pumpkins.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 01:38 PM (QljPp)

7 Wife had a great idea too late, the little chile pepper plant should have been potted and brought inside, might have kept growing

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 01:39 PM (xhxe8)

8 Rented a tractor to move 88 tons of decomposed granite on a Thanksgiving special: pickup Wed after 1pm to Sat return between 6 and 7am.
The 1st John Deere lasted less than an hour and then gave and odd noise and stopped, no hydraulics, no movement. Called them up and they offered another older JD that wasn't four wheel drive, picked that one up and almost got an hour of work done before sunset.
8:30 Thanksgiving day we started moving a leveling and at 10:30 the JD started spewing oil (hydraulic oil). DOH!
Texted them pictures and parked it.
Returned it today and they waived charges and will give me their newest JD for a day with no charge.
I wasn't happy, now I am.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 01:39 PM (4sEm/)

9 Planted garlic a few weeks ago, 4lbs and 4 different varieties. Getting all excited and planning all my winter prep for the massive acre garden next year. Will be breaking new heavy sodded ground so various levels of earth turning and plowing followed by tilling need to happen. Also some trees need to come down and I've been perusing what chainsaw to buy.
Then I got the call this week I need heart surgery so back to the drawing board. I'm looking at buying some 6mil 50x50 sheets of panda plastic for tarping silage. Smothering large swaths where I want the garden for several months or until I can be cleared to do manual labor again. Hopefully everything will die and rot down to dirt so I can just till in the spring.

Posted by: KarlHungus at November 26, 2022 01:39 PM (MhCcX)

10 That hog is so cute! I bet he loves the pumpkins.
Posted by: CaliGirl

I was looking forward to seeing it cooked just like the turkey progression pictures!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 01:40 PM (4sEm/)

11 I have never seen peanuts. That's really interesting.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 01:43 PM (QljPp)

12 Then I got the call this week I need heart surgery
--snip--
until I can be cleared to do manual labor again.
Posted by: KarlHungus

Depending on the procedure some of the recovery times for heart surgery are getting much shorter.
Prayers that they can use one of those and for a successful operation.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 01:44 PM (4sEm/)

13 Pig with punkin - i recall visiting my parents in Scottsdale a few years back in late October. People had Halloween decorations out, and some in the neighbood thought some teens were going around smashing peoples pumpkins. (Cont'd)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2022 01:44 PM (r46W7)

14 My Mom would grow mangos from fruit seeds. Had one tree that produced some fruit; since I had only store-bought mangoes before that point, they were the most marvelously flavored mangos I had eve eaten.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 26, 2022 01:46 PM (ynpvh)

15 I didn't pickle olives in 2020 or 2021, because the yield was scanty and the flies (olive flies, fruit flies, Mediterranean fruit flies - whatever they were) what little there was on the tree.

Silly. That's why you're supposed to eat ze bugs!

Posted by: Klaus Schwab at November 26, 2022 01:48 PM (NCgXW)

16 So i got up early, right at dawn, and went on a walk around the neighborhood. I came around a corner and was shocked to find that i was about 30 feet from 2 javelina who were chowing down a pumpkin on someone's driveway, they clearly thought it was the greatest treat they had ever found. Luckily for me, they were too involved with that pumpkin to pay me any mind.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2022 01:48 PM (r46W7)

17 Pig with punkin - i recall visiting my parents in Scottsdale a few years back in late October. People had Halloween decorations out, and some in the neighbood thought some teens were going around smashing peoples pumpkins. (Cont'd)

First year in Chandler put out some carved pumpkins. They were collapsed and molding within about 48 hours. So those teens had to act fast if they wanted to smash anything.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at November 26, 2022 01:49 PM (Bd6X8)

18 We have a gravel parking area in front of our house. This happens to be the spot on our property that gets the most hours of sunlight. We can easily park on the other side of the front yard and use the sunny area for a garden. The question is, should we remove the gravel or just put raised beds on top of the gravel area? A few of the things I want to grow require deep planting, like asparagus.

Posted by: Emmie at November 26, 2022 01:50 PM (Emce2)

19 Thanks AZ, this will be my second one, anticipated in the future but unexpected now. It's a congenital defect, I'm only pushing 40 years old. It will be nice to have some energy again.

Posted by: KarlHungus at November 26, 2022 01:51 PM (MhCcX)

20 Cool pictures of the peanuts. I don't think I'd ever seen peanut blossoms. It is clear now how sweet pea flowers got their name.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 26, 2022 01:54 PM (3cGpq)

21 I was looking forward to seeing it cooked just like the turkey progression pictures!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 01:40 PM (4sEm/)

Me too!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2022 01:56 PM (XIJ/X)

22 One of my dad's cousins grew peanuts and corn in rotation on his farm in Oklahoma.

Posted by: huerfano at November 26, 2022 01:59 PM (dTFZY)

23 Point of living on a farm is it a pet or product

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 02:00 PM (xhxe8)

24 I'd go with raised beds Emmie. Where gravel migrated into the one flower bed here it interferes with being able to hoe weeds and I'd expect digging and tilling to start a garden area where gravel has been could be a nightmare. But possibly if there is intact landscape fabric under the gravel it would not actually be bad.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 26, 2022 02:00 PM (3cGpq)

25 ...javelina who were chowing down a pumpkin on someone's driveway, they clearly thought it was the greatest treat they had ever found.

Deer also consider pumpkins a delicacy. We just throw the halloween pumpkins into whatever natural habitat is left around here, which isn't that much.

The local deer have now taken to just showing up on homeowner lawns to chow down on what they enjoy, in broad daylight.

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 02:01 PM (fYd9N)

26 It's a congenital defect, I'm only pushing 40 years old. It will be nice to have some energy again.
Posted by: KarlHungus

Well, that suxs... prayers in any case.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 02:01 PM (4sEm/)

27 Point of living on a farm is it a pet or product
Posted by: Skip's phone

I was to never let the children name a future dinner.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 02:02 PM (4sEm/)

28 Prayers up that the surgery and recovery go well Karl.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 26, 2022 02:04 PM (3cGpq)

29 The entire family of citrus fruit is God's special gift to humanity. I can't figure out which is my favorite, it's a dead heat between lemon and lime...but right now, looking at that spectacular lime tree and reading about the marmalade, it has to be the lime!

I love slicing an avocado in half, sprinkling it with a little salt/olive oil, then squeezing fresh lime on it. OMG

nutritious too

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 02:04 PM (fYd9N)

30 In ETEX we can't get deer or wild hogs to eat pumpkins, Kalisto.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2022 02:05 PM (4svuj)

31 The question is, should we remove the gravel
A few of the things I want to grow require deep planting, like asparagus.
Posted by: Emmie

Actually rent a tractor or 'steerskid' and scrape the gravel of the underlying soil will be a lot less expensive.
Rent a tractor they said, it'll be fun they said.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 02:05 PM (4sEm/)

32 I am not sure if this is gardening or a hobby, this is a video of sugaring in Alabama by David the Good.
Ben White grows sugar cane and boils it down for syrup, like we make apple juice up here

https://youtu.be/WPRmKp5miHU

Posted by: Kindltot at November 26, 2022 02:08 PM (xhaym)

33 In ETEX we can't get deer or wild hogs to eat pumpkins, Kalisto.

is there stuff they like better? Here in PA they stomp the pumpkins open with their hooves and chow down on the seeds

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 02:10 PM (fYd9N)

34 If I were invited to tea and the hostess served scones fresh out of the oven, accompanied by lemon curd and lime marmalade, I would think I'd died and gone to heaven

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 02:12 PM (fYd9N)

35 30 In ETEX we can't get deer or wild hogs to eat pumpkins, Kalisto.
Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2022 02:05 PM

Cows and chickens like pumpkins. I bet there are cattle in E Texas.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 02:13 PM (QljPp)

36 kallisto @ 33-
This in the Angelino River area so whatever deer finds falls out of a tree or grows out of the ground.
Of course wildhogs will eat anything they can get in their mouth, to include deer and even other hogs. The only non-native stuff the get is corn whic we put out for them, and a truckload of pumpkins which they turned up their noses at.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2022 02:17 PM (AOD4b)

37 One of my dad's cousins grew peanuts and corn in rotation

So they are row taters?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at November 26, 2022 02:25 PM (IiIg9)

38 One of my dad's cousins grew peanuts and corn in rotation

So they are row taters?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty

Ouch!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 02:26 PM (4sEm/)

39 KT, Mrs. E will let that Easter Lily grow a bit and the set it out. She's now moving setting bulbd around the property. There are flowers that come up every year, some have been here on old house place since 1929, and some that came with us from lakehouse. Also, a nice lady in Louisiana dug up most of her bulbs for Mrs. E to plant and love. She said she didn't have long to live and wanted them to have a good home.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2022 02:27 PM (4svuj)

40 Also, a nice lady in Louisiana dug up most of her bulbs for Mrs. E to plant and love. She said she didn't have long to live and wanted them to have a good home.
Posted by: Eromero

That's pretty sweet, on both giving and receiving sides.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 02:29 PM (4sEm/)

41 Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2022 02:17 PM (AOD4b)

oh ok

Was talking to a guy from ETEX the other day, he was making reference to how my name is spelled/pronounced, I thought he was Latino due to how he perfectly pronounced my name, he said it was due to him growing up in ETEX. But he's not spanish or mexican or even italian. Is there a lot of diversity there?

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2022 02:29 PM (fYd9N)

42 Love the olive thing. Never see that where I'm at.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 26, 2022 02:32 PM (geVLo)

43 >>> 31 The question is, should we remove the gravel
A few of the things I want to grow require deep planting, like asparagus.
Posted by: Emmie

Actually rent a tractor or 'steerskid' and scrape the gravel of the underlying soil will be a lot less expensive.
Rent a tractor they said, it'll be fun they said.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 02:05 PM (4sEm/)

I second this; I'd want to get rid of the gravel entirely. Ok *maybe* I'd keep some if it could be useful in helping create drainage away from the house, but I hate having it anywhere I want to grow things.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 26, 2022 02:33 PM (llON8)

44 ... and now for something completely different. Have any of you Morons ever tried mycorrhizal fungi or bio-char in the garden and if so, did it seem to help?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 26, 2022 02:36 PM (llON8)

45 Dug a few elephant ears, torch lillies and gladiolus to take with us when we relocate. Gonna leave all the day lillies.

*sigh*

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 26, 2022 02:37 PM (tBR6g)

46 Has there been any coverage in this thread on the Judean Fig project in Israel? I watched a YT video of a Judean Fig preserve (land, not jam) that had fig trees growing from seeds recovered from Masada (IIRC). The Judean Fig was long thought to be extinct, but now is being actively cultivated in Israel.

Posted by: mrp at November 26, 2022 02:37 PM (6eRlp)

47 David the Good has a video where he tests several amendments. I'll see if I can find it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 26, 2022 02:39 PM (uz3Px)

48 Is there a lot of diversity in ETEX? You betcha, people from all over the world, come here to live and work. Huge medical care, teaching school pharmacy/medical. They even took me in. Eromero is pronounciated Ee-roh-mare-oh.

Posted by: Eromero at November 26, 2022 02:41 PM (4svuj)

49 I grew up in peanut country and I didn't know they did that.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at November 26, 2022 02:41 PM (ls31p)

50 To naming farm animals. Not sure if he still does but a co-worker who has cattle use to name cows for female singers and bulls civil war generals

Done outside for today and refilled the charcoal pot with maple split wood

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 02:43 PM (xhxe8)

51 Here's the one I was thinking about. It's his taste test.

https://youtu.be/-P5CUAIZD3I

I am wondering if his grocery row gardening would work well here. I will need more shade for plants. This will be the oposite of PNW gardening.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 26, 2022 02:45 PM (uz3Px)

52 From Boise area: Lows 19-28 F, highs 37-46 F. Another air stagnation advisory this week.

I threw out the green bean plants I cut down ages ago, bits of potato plant, and cantaloupe vine debris. Didn't get much leaf bagging or shredding done. I donated blood this week (lifetime, over 11 gallons!).

Husband replaced the dimmer switch in the dining room since the lights were flickering. He also rented a hydraulic log splitter, and we split some stuff we'd had lying around for a while, plus the maple tree we cut down this fall.

Someone in our neighborhood organized a Thanksgiving morning touch football game, plus cocoa, muffins, and a fire pit - we went over and had a good time chatting, and drinking cocoa - at our age, NOT playing football! After that, roast leg of lamb with roast vegetables.

We saw 3 quail in the front yard. I still have to decide when to put the seed block out back for them. It's supposed to snow this week, so I may do so soon.

Posted by: Pat* at November 26, 2022 02:48 PM (a9dTa)

53 David the Good also has a gardening action adventure book that features evil North Korean mycorrhizal fungi. Hint: rototilling is genocide.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at November 26, 2022 02:48 PM (ls31p)

54 50 To naming farm animals. Not sure if he still does but a co-worker who has cattle use to name cows for female singers and bulls civil war generals

Done outside for today and refilled the charcoal pot with maple split wood
Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022

I name most things their color. Big white rooster, murder rooster. I named one bull after my attorney. He thinks it's funny too. He's the meanest bull and he keeps breaking down the fence to get with the girls.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 26, 2022 02:48 PM (QljPp)

55 The cooling racks in the fridge is brilliant! Wish I'd known about that earlier.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 26, 2022 02:49 PM (nC+QA)

56 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2022 02:51 PM (T4tVD)

57 Its a beeeeyootiful day out thar !

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2022 02:52 PM (T4tVD)

58 My new camellia has started blossoming. Yay! I'd forgotten that the flowers don't have any scent, but i'm okay with that.

I ended up adding a bottlebrush bush, which has culinary and medicinal uses, a flax lily for the fiber, and another yaupon holly. Should be done with the major planting now.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 26, 2022 02:52 PM (nC+QA)

59 and now for something completely different. Have any of you Morons ever tried mycorrhizal fungi or bio-char in the garden and if so, did it seem to help?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 26, 2022 02:36 PM (llON

Been growing grass all my professional career. Hard to go wrong with NPK and proper pH. I'm in SE NC and I do realize some parts of the country are different.

Unless your soil is deficient, I find snake oils not to be worth the money.

Posted by: Golfman at November 26, 2022 02:55 PM (BLVc0)

60 The radishes and mixed greens in the back yard are all starting to sprout, as well as the mixed wildflowers in the front yard.

I also sprouted some lentils and put them in one of the back beds. They didn't die right away, so I'm looking forward to seeing how they grow.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 26, 2022 02:55 PM (nC+QA)

61 Okay there's a Deadpool category
former presidents
Jimmy Carter
Bill Clinton
George W Bush
Barack Obama
Donald Trump
Joe Biden...
Who will be the first to enter that Oval Office in the sky?

Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at November 26, 2022 02:56 PM (QzPUP)

62 I ended up adding a bottlebrush bush, which has culinary and medicinal uses, a flax lily for the fiber, and another yaupon holly. Should be done with the major planting now.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 26, 2022 02:52 PM (nC+QA)

Bottlebrush bush and yaupon holly. Two of my favorites.

You must be south of the Mason Dixon and then some.

Posted by: Golfman at November 26, 2022 02:57 PM (BLVc0)

63 Citrus?

My favorite is pineapple.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at November 26, 2022 02:57 PM (I9VC/)

64 I don't know how Carter holds on. His deal must have included living long enough to see the eventual results of Democrat policies.

Posted by: fd at November 26, 2022 03:02 PM (sn5EN)

65 I don't know how Carter holds on. His deal must have included living long enough to see the eventual results of Democrat policies.

If he negotiated for seeing the successful results he's immortal.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at November 26, 2022 03:04 PM (Bd6X8)

66 Posted by: I'm Gumby Damnit! at November 26, 2022 02:56 PM (QzPUP)

Carter by a mile. ( I probably just extended his life based on my prediction record)

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 03:07 PM (nBhwo)

67 Aw I just found out Irene Cara is mort. Only 63.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 03:10 PM (nBhwo)

68 Gardening is the easy part ( not really). After the harvest is when the real work begins. Did ok on that part this year mostly because my garden stunk. I still have 5 gallons of apples in the pantry room that need to be canned or dried. I am leaning towards dehydrating because it's slightly less work.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at November 26, 2022 03:11 PM (LUK5V)

69 Then there is always a ring of power
9 rings to mortal men doomed to die

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 03:12 PM (xhxe8)

70 My Silver Queen okra seeds arrived! I'm psyched!

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 26, 2022 03:13 PM (Mzdiz)

71 Been growing grass

Water your lawn, go to jail.

Posted by: Commiefornia at November 26, 2022 03:14 PM (knlFM)

72 Aw I just found out Irene Cara is mort. Only 63.

Posted by: polynikes at November 26, 2022 03:10 PM (nBhwo)

I didn't realize she was only a little younger than me.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 26, 2022 03:14 PM (Mzdiz)

73 David the Good is one of my gardening heroes (Steve Solomon is the other). I really enjoyed the livestream video where David was singing to the commenters on the beginning thread.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at November 26, 2022 03:15 PM (uz3Px)

74 You must be south of the Mason Dixon and then some.
Posted by: Golfman at November 26, 2022 02:57 PM (BLVc0)

Near Houston. I haven't done any vegetable gardening before now because I'm never thinking about planting as early as is needed here. Glad I actually thought of it this year.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at November 26, 2022 03:18 PM (nC+QA)

75 New modem, testing.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 26, 2022 03:21 PM (Angsy)

76 Wife had a great idea too late, the little chile pepper plant should have been potted and brought inside, might have kept growing

Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 01:39 PM (xhxe

I heard you could bring them inside for overwintering. Not sure if this will work with the red bell pepper that never made it into the ground, but I'm trying.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at November 26, 2022 03:22 PM (Mzdiz)

77 Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 26, 2022 03:21 PM (Angsy)

Yecch. Don't like that hash. Have to see how to change it....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 26, 2022 03:23 PM (Angsy)

78 Eromero at November 26, 2022 02:27 PM

Touching about the lady giving her bulbs to Mrs. E.

Posted by: KT at November 26, 2022 03:29 PM (rrtZS)

79 But possibly if there is intact landscape fabric under the gravel it would not actually be bad.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 26, 2022 02:00 PM (3cGpq)

Yes, I've wondered if there is a barrier under the gravel. We're in a unique spot in town -- we actually have topsoil. But of course, the soil under the gravel will be kinda dead by this time. I would use raised beds in any case, but having soil beneath rather than gravel might make the area more versatile. I wanted to put a dwarf fruit tree or two on the north side. Might even get fancy and espalier them.

Posted by: Emmie at November 26, 2022 03:33 PM (Emce2)

80 Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 26, 2022 03:21 PM (Angsy)

Yecch. Don't like that hash. Have to see how to change it....
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Reset (or unpower) and you should get a new hash.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 03:35 PM (4sEm/)

81 Nood Pets!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at November 26, 2022 03:36 PM (4sEm/)

82 Expanded the backyard fence this past week to incorporate that part of the backyard where I put in my wife's cutting garden. The dang deer wreaked havoc on it the past two years. I hope to be sending you more pictures of her homegrown bouquets next summer.

Posted by: Cumberland Astro at November 26, 2022 04:12 PM (d9Cw3)

83 and now for something completely different. Have any of you Morons ever tried mycorrhizal fungi or bio-char in the garden and if so, did it seem to help?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Golfman has it. However, biochar would be nice, just how much would you have to buy to make it worthwhile?
I vote the skidsteer and scraping it off, then bringing in the soil you would have for the raised beds.
Plow it deep. Voila!
After that first deep plow, tilling in compost only for many, many years.

Posted by: MkY at November 26, 2022 04:27 PM (cPGH3)

84 I'm gonna plow our garden area for the first time in years, but it's mostly to break the hard pan forming, and get some of that nutritious clay up.

Posted by: MkY at November 26, 2022 04:28 PM (cPGH3)

85 Wife had a great idea too late, the little chile pepper plant should have been potted and brought inside, might have kept growing
Posted by: Skip's phone at November 26, 2022 01:39

We did that w/ a green pepper plant. Brought in in for the, kept it alive 3 or 4 yrs taking it in and out.

Been working on our leaves. Cleaned out the compost tumbler and started a new batch. Now to set up this small greenhouse/plant stand to accommodate the succulents we acquired this year and the hanging baskets I saved. Those suckers are getting expensive so I' gonna try to nurse these thru the winter and refurbish them in the spring.

Posted by: Farmer at November 26, 2022 06:41 PM (55Qr6)

86 Emmie at November 26, 2022 03:33 PM

Landscape fabric around valuable plants tends to become a problem over time

Posted by: KT at November 26, 2022 08:55 PM (rrtZS)

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