Virginia Democrat Who Proposed Prosecuting Parents As Child Abusers for Not "Affirming" a Transitory Trans "Identity" Tries to Backtrack, But Republicans Are Seizing and Pouncing Anyway

Elizabeth Guzman, a Stunning and Brave Latinx who represents parts of blue Northern Virginia, is re-introducing a bill first introduced by Democrats in 2020 which will amend the law against child abuse to include, and also treat as a possible felony, the refusal of parents to "affirm" a gender identity.

The Stunning and Brave Latinx is now crying foul that when she told a TV news station that she would be charging parents with a misdemeanor or even a felony for Failure to Use Pronouns With Malice Aforethought, that TV news station dared to air her statement. Tan soplado!

In case you missed her Stunning and Brave threat to put parents in jail for not cutting off their children's genitals:

🚨🚨🚨🧵Virginia Democrats to introduce legislation that would allow parents who don’t affirm their child’s “gender identity” to be criminally prosecuted. 1/pic.twitter.com/EO6HdXWmi5
— Ian Prior (@iandprior) October 13, 2022

Ian Prior
@iandprior
Oct 13

@NickMinock is reporting that @guzman4virginia is leading the charge to "expand the definition of child abuse to include parents that do not affirm their child's gender identity." /2 [Link to story.]
@guzman4virginia said that there would be a CPS investigation and "it could be a felony, it could be a misdemeanor, but we know that a CPS charge could harm your employment." /3
Guzman claims not to be criminalizing parents but to be "educating them" and that "we haven't seen any parents come against it."
Oh, you will be seeing that @guzman4virginia. /4

They love going after your employment, and they love telling you that they're making you unemployable to "educate you."

The day is coming when we're going to start "educating" them back.

But that part about "no parents coming forward to object"? Well, turns out, parents are objecting, and Democrats are panicking, telling WUSA9, "That stanky biotch don't know which way is up."

Those who supported this same bill in 2020 are now saying there's no support for it and they won't support it, so don't worry about it! Just kidding, we're not going to send parents to jail! (Until we get the political strength to send them to jail...)

The offices of the several patrons of the 2020 bill told WUSA9 that the bill does not have the support to pass it and that the Republican House Speaker will never put it up for a vote. Delegate Guzman still stands by the original purpose of the legislation.
The office of multiple patrons involved in the 2020 legislation told WUSA9 that they have not been in conversations with Guzman's office and that they do not plan to push the plan forward in the next general session.

Stunning and Brave Latinx Elizabeth Guzman claimed her clear words which cannot be mischaracterized, referring to a bill whose language is easily accessible and states plainly that parents who do not affirm their children's gender transition may be prosecuted for the crime of child abuse, were in fact mischaracterized by an evil right-wing tv station.

Elizabeth Guzman
@guzman4virginia
As a social worker & mom of 4, I will always fight to protect LGBTQ children from abuse. to set the record straight on a misleading news piece from a Sinclair-owned affiliate that mischaracterized a pro-safety, anti-abuse bill I introduced in 2020 to protect LGBTQ youth. 1/

What's misleading? She just keeps calling this an "anti-abuse bill" -- yes, we know that's your intent. You intend to make it the law that not "affirming" gender transitions constitutes child abuse, and then you intend to prosecute that. That's your idea of "anti-abuse."

This is not a rebuttal or clarification -- this is a restatement and a doubling-down which is dressed up as a rebuttal or clarification.

While the Democrats are saying "Don't worry, that bill will never even come to the floor," the Republican Speaker of the Virginia House of Delegates says, "Oh yeah it's definitely coming to the floor, because I'm going to bring it to the floor, and make every Democrat vote on it."

Did the Red Wave election in Virginia in 2021 not teach you a lesson?

Very well then: It is time for another lesson.

This one more painful. So that you won't forget again.

Via Twitchy.

Posted by: Ace at 12:21 PM

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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 12:22 PM (Zz0t1)

2 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 17, 2022 12:22 PM (bVYXr)

3 Seize. Pounce. Plummet. Pound. Destroy.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 12:22 PM (Zz0t1)

4 Pouncing seems a better word to use IMO.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 17, 2022 12:23 PM (bVYXr)

5 Children are what you MAKE them. They do not decide this garbage on their own.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)

6 Heh. I love the idea of Republicans bringing Democrat shit up for floor votes. Make them OWN it!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 17, 2022 12:23 PM (YIVH2)

7 Virginia Democrat Who Proposed Prosecuting Parents As Child Abusers for Not "Affirming" a Transitory Trans "Identity" Tries to Backtrack, But Republicans Are Seizing and Pouncing Anyway

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How fucking dare they.

Republicans should just let Democrats say whatever they want without consequence. It's the only good thing to do in the middle of an election year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

8 Elizabeth Guzman, profile in courage.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 12:24 PM (yHsuS)

9 It is not just Republicans, scruntlet there is torqued off that the DNC put a boot up her ass.

It is as though they forget that their pederasty is a big part of why Youngkin got elected.

Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 12:24 PM (Lzpvj)

10 My cat, Pouncer, likes to pounce and sieze. She's really good at it, too. She can also leap. She catches birds and brings them to me. She's a Birdcat.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 12:24 PM (KY22T)

11 They love going after your employment, and they love telling you that they're making you unemployable to "educate you."

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It's almost like there's an effort at every level of government to get companies to push the preferred policies of the Democrat Party in government.

I wish there was a word for that kind of partnership...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:24 PM (LvTSG)

12 (Until we get the political strength to send them to jail...)

NOT TODAY SATAN

seriously, the demorats are in for a shellacking

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 12:24 PM (dCxaZ)

13 I'm more about the seizing,
less about the pouncing.

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (krQz2)

14 While the Democrats are saying "Don't worry, that bill will never even come to the floor," the Republican Speaker of the Virginia House of Delegates says, "Oh yeah it's definitely coming to the floor, because I'm going to bring it to the floor, and make every Democrat vote on it."

It seems that at least SOME Republicans are capable of learning.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (eOEVl)

15 These abusive Democrats need to be prosecuted

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (P4ODk)

16 Hi Ace

Tried to have an argument about this with my unbelievably liberal sister when I was in Connecticut but she literally walked out of the room instead of defending her position.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (Y+l9t)

17 and good on the GOPe speaker for bringing it to a vote.

Let these she-beasts learn that the world is not teh tw@tter and vice versa

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (dCxaZ)

18 They love going after your employment, and they love telling you that they're making you unemployable to "educate you."
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Your job is their weapon. We see it all the time, and not just recently with COVID. California has for many years now punished people who don't make their child support payments but taking away their drivers licenses. The punishment has nothing to do with the crime, and will make earning money much, much harder because you really need a car in most of California. The implication - unstated but obvious - is "pay up or lose your job" and then you'll go to jail.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (t0OGg)

19 It has been astounding to watch Dems go crazy on this woke bullshit the last two years. With about 3 weeks to go before the election, for the very first time some of them are starting to think "uh oh".

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (trdmm)

20 Did the Red Wave election in Virginia in 2021 not teach you a lesson?

Very well then: It is time for another lesson.

This one more painful. So that you won't forget again.

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The problem is that it's not an election year at the state level for VA this year. The senate is up for election next year.

Hopefully the people of VA remember this for 13 months.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

21 My cat, Pouncer, likes to pounce and sieze. She's really good at it, too. She can also leap. She catches birds and brings them to me. She's a Birdcat.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 12:24 PM

You know who else liked to pounce and seize?.....

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (bVYXr)

22 They love going after your employment, and they love telling you that they're making you unemployable to "educate you."

Please explain what qualifies you to "educate" me about anything, you peawit.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:26 PM (eOEVl)

23 With lunch lady arms like hers, her next career is pre-destined.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 12:26 PM (lf83v)

24 Is it abuse when a parent tells a 7 year old boy he's not a girl and his teacher is insane?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 17, 2022 12:26 PM (eGTCV)

25 14 It seems that at least SOME Republicans are capable of learning.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (eOEVl)

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Not at all. The GOP cannot change and will never change at any level. Every single GOP person who gets elected to any position automatically becomes Mitch McConnell.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:26 PM (LvTSG)

26 Let's hope the Republicans in VA congress have enough fight in them to file her warped bill for a vote. Make the Dems have a say on it. Put it to a vote!!

Posted by: Floridachick at October 17, 2022 12:26 PM (Uk/+L)

27
Tried to have an argument about this with my unbelievably liberal sister when I was in Connecticut but she literally walked out of the room instead of defending her position.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (Y+l9t)

I've got one of those too.. I just don't bring up politics.. She only watches CNN and MSNBC plus the rest of the alphabet channels...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (bs+z0)

28 Maybe getting away with the 2020 Steal emboldened them so much that they truly did start to believe that they could get away with anything, an dhey dropped any inhibitions about what they wanted to do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (trdmm)

29 21 My cat, Pouncer, likes to pounce and sieze. She's really good at it, too. She can also leap. She catches birds and brings them to me. She's a Birdcat.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 12:24 PM

You know who else liked to pounce and seize?.....
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Rick Flair?

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (KY22T)

30 Does this affect our efforts to make sure no left wing billionaire pays any taxes?
-GOPe

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (A+qp1)

31 She looks like she eats children for breakfast, midday snack, lunch, after lunch tide over, dinner and dessert.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (Zz0t1)

32 Did the Red Wave election in Virginia in 2021 not teach you a lesson?

Very well then: It is time for another lesson.
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Insert Spongebob meme "How many times must we teach you this lesson old man?" here

Posted by: Augustine at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (BDZWU)

33 The problem is that it's not an election year at the state level for VA this year. The senate is up for election next year.

Hopefully the people of VA remember this for 13 months.

True, but I expect that the voters will take it out on the national level Dems. It's all for the good.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (eOEVl)

34 Stunning and Brave Latinx Elizabeth Guzman claimed her clear words which cannot be mischaracterized, referring to a bill whose language is easily accessible and states plainly that parents who do not affirm their children's gender transition may be prosecuted for the crime of child abuse, were in fact mischaracterized by an evil right-wing tv station.

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"It's not happening, and it's good that it is!"

-- Michael Anton

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (Th1r/)

35 I wonder how parents are supposed to "affirm" sexuality of the child?
Sign a statement when they register to vote?
Make it part of the HR on-boarding process at work?
Genuflect to this bitch?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (anj39)

36 19 It has been astounding to watch Dems go crazy on this woke bullshit the last two years. With about 3 weeks to go before the election, for the very first time some of them are starting to think "uh oh".
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM (trdmm)

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And yet...all the ads are cut. It's abortion all the time while news keeps percolating about how Democrats at every level want to cut off your kids dicks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

37 Morning.

Never interrupt an enemy while he's making a mistake.

Posted by: Robert at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (b0dEj)

38 Elizabeth Guzman, profile in ~~courage~~ calories.

*Suggested edit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (uLr+K)

39 It was always just one of those stunt bills that had no chance, just trying to make a "statement" like Satanists trying to ban Christmas decorations.

They love going after your employment, and they love telling you that they're making you unemployable to "educate you."

Maybe they could create special housing and secure facilities for people to be educated in, we could call them 'camps'.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (Ivdso)

40 Old and busted: Haters gonna hate

New hotness: Groomers gonna groom

Posted by: Flyguy at October 17, 2022 12:28 PM (VrVjC)

41 It is as though they forget that their pederasty is a big part of why Youngkin got elected.

Yeah, whoda thunk that Chindian parents send their children to be educated to be high achievers rather than some young boy selling $10 beejrs at the truck stop?

They all must be h8rs

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 12:28 PM (dCxaZ)

42 You will be made to ~~care~~repeat

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2022 12:28 PM (krQz2)

43 Maybe stop voting for people from South America, especially Peru.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 17, 2022 12:28 PM (VWp7G)

44 Elizabeth Guzman, rice and beans are not your friend.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 12:28 PM (lf83v)

45 I've got one of those too.. I just don't bring up politics.. She only watches CNN and MSNBC plus the rest of the alphabet channels...
Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (bs+z0

I'm very fortunate that most of my relatives see things the same way i do. I get along with those who don't see it the same way, and I just tell them "you know I could discuss politics and religion with you, but then I'd have to kill you so let's not."

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (trdmm)

46 She looks like she eats children for breakfast, midday snack, lunch, after lunch tide over, dinner and dessert.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (Zz0t1)

If she had stayed in Peru, I doubt she'd be this large.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (anj39)

47 With about 3 weeks to go before the election, for the very first time some of them are starting to think "uh oh".

Yeah but the only ones even capable of that are the older Dems who haven't been steeped in the crazy juice their whole lives. You're not gonna see that 29 year old Wymyn's Studies graduate with the 11 cats and green hair having self doubt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (Ivdso)

48 Not at all. The GOP cannot change and will never change at any level. Every single GOP person who gets elected to any position automatically becomes Mitch McConnell.

I assume this is a bit of hyperbole. Otherwise, Ron DeSantis would like a word with you.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (eOEVl)

49 It's waaaay past time to make it painful for people to FAFO.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (NlFlr)

50 28 Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (trdmm)

The old grizzled fuckers like Schmuck and Nanzi know better, the youngsters don't.

These cultural mores are how you get Beirut 83 and the Tollybon being put in power. So either the United States is "just like everywhere else" and you don't cross some lines or "we are exceptional" and there are no lines. My money is on the former on human nature.

I wish donkey would credit America its decency in their eyes if it is the latter.

Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (Lzpvj)

51 For Democrats, quoting them in full is a political dirty trick.

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (iPbC0)

52 "Just kidding, we're not going to send parents to jail! (Until we get the political strength to send them to jail...)"

This is the part that's going to stick with voters the most. For years Democrats were slowly inching towards this agenda. Then for some reason once they got total control they feel the veil could be lifter off their agenda. Nobody will ever trust Democrats again, no after how much they backpedal.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (T0jQj)

53 NO lesson will be painful enough, except incarceration and bankrupting penalties. Leaving them free to fight another day guarantees they will continue to grow and spread their cancerous ideas.

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (Zzbjj)

54 >As a social worker & mom of 4

Bud from Kill Bill: Sure you're both, but I imagine you're just a tiny bit more of one than the other.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (44ww/)

55 Maybe stop voting for people from South America, especially Peru.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 17, 2022 12:28 PM (VWp7G)

I will cast a spell on you.....

- - Pope Francis

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)

56 She's a Birdcat.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 12:24 PM (KY22T)

New! From Mattel!

Transpets!

Mix 'em. Match 'em. Swap 'em! Collect them all!

*Abusive mental case parent sold separately.*

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 12:30 PM (yHsuS)

57 Tried to have an argument about this with my unbelievably liberal sister when I was in Connecticut but she literally walked out of the room instead of defending her position.
Posted by: sharon

It's a sibling. Go hands on.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 12:30 PM (NlFlr)

58 It seems Guzman is more interested in protecting groomers than children.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (eGTCV)

59 She loos like you knew she would. How many cats you think she has?

Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (yezA1)

60 All this horseshit that colleges have been teaching for years is showing up more and more. Just like the Hitler youth it is showing results for them. Hopefully there are less of them than there are of us.

Lordy

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (M+Lyo)

61 I assume this is a bit of hyperbole. Otherwise, Ron DeSantis would like a word with you.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (eOEVl)

Since Paul Ryan endorsed him for 2024, I grow nervous about Ron

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (Zzbjj)

62 Hobbes likes to pounce and seize, usually whe I least expect it.

Posted by: Calvin at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (gZ1zc)

63 48 Not at all. The GOP cannot change and will never change at any level. Every single GOP person who gets elected to any position automatically becomes Mitch McConnell.

I assume this is a bit of hyperbole. Otherwise, Ron DeSantis would like a word with you.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (eOEVl)

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I have taken the black pill. Dominion will change every vote in every machine. Any GOPer that gets into power will sell us out for a bag of magic beans and a half-drunk bottle of terrible scotch. Any GOPer that we like has actually been compromised already and is just being used to keep us on the plantation.

There is no hope.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

64 Top quality insanity.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (53HNX)

65
I've got one of those too.. I just don't bring up politics.. She only watches CNN and MSNBC plus the rest of the alphabet channels...

Posted by: It's me donna

My situation is even worse because my sister worked in schools as teacher and principle and is completely comvinced that she is right because experts told her this. When I brought up how many more girls are reporting being transgender, double and triple past numbers, she said it was because now they felt free to declare this.
That was when I gave up.
I try not to talk politics but in a way thought this transcended politics.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (Y+l9t)

66 Children are what you MAKE them. They do not decide this garbage on their own.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022

***
I cannot remember a single time in grade school that I wished, or even believed for an instant, that I was actually a girl. Of course, I was sane, so were my parents, and so (mostly) was our society.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (J2vNu)

67 Is Guzman's Fat Ass even here in this country legally?

Background checks are in order.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (UjXdZ)

68 She needs to be better educated about the hardness of hickory.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (VaSD4)

69 Ads should be out warning parents that Biden DOJ is coming for them.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (NpAcC)

70 It was always just one of those stunt bills that had no chance, just trying to make a "statement" like Satanists trying to ban Christmas decorations.

Yes, but it's precisely outrageous things like this that people remember, especially when the Dems do so many other stupid things.

Yeah but the only ones even capable of that are the older Dems who haven't been steeped in the crazy juice their whole lives. You're not gonna see that 29 year old Wymyn's Studies graduate with the 11 cats and green hair having self doubt.

Self-doubt, no. But denial of reality eventually leads to extinction.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (eOEVl)

71 60 All this horseshit that colleges have been teaching for years is showing up more and more. Just like the Hitler youth it is showing results for them. Hopefully there are less of them than there are of us.

Lordy
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NAZIs knew how to dress, so there's that.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 12:32 PM (KY22T)

72 This is why Dems don't want to debate Republicans, because they hope they can just pass thier insane laws under thre covert of darkness, instead of having to explain why the Democrat's party platform revolves 100% around molesting or mutilating children.

Posted by: Rbastid at October 17, 2022 12:32 PM (/HQcE)

73 She loos like you knew she would. How many cats you think she has?
Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (yezA1)
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Definitely more than me (I have four, so I'm already certified crazy).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 17, 2022 12:32 PM (YIVH2)

74 This 'Lady' has been in the country about 10 minutes... and I would BET is a dual citizen... how the hell is she in ANY Legislature, even a State one?

Call me a Nativist, but this immigration shit is out of control.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 17, 2022 12:32 PM (oHd/0)

75 Children are what you MAKE them. They do not decide this garbage on their own.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022

Children like to please, whether it's a horrid teacher or evil, liberal mommy

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2022 12:32 PM (Zzbjj)

76 All this horseshit that colleges have been teaching for years is showing up more and more. Just like the Hitler youth it is showing results for them. Hopefully there are less of them than there are of us.

Lordy
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (M+Lyo)

Teach, your children well

Don't you ever ask them why, just cut of their dick and cry, and know they hate you

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (M+Lyo)

77 Elizabeth Guzman, profile in ~~courage~~ calories.

*Suggested edit

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (uLr+K)

Approved and celebrated.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (yHsuS)

78 No social worker should ever be elected to anything anywhere. Ever.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (lf83v)

79 My cat, Pouncer, likes to pounce and sieze. She's really good at it, too. She can also leap. She catches birds and brings them to me. She's a Birdcat.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 12:24 PM
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Speaking of ponces, Elton John was in concert in Tacoma last night.
Oh...
You said pounces.
My bad.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (anj39)

80 Why are they so desperate to mutilate children rather then wait at least until they're old enough to drink?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (eGTCV)

81 There were times as a kid that I definitely saw that girls had an edge I did not, and wished I could have that, but I never wanted to actually BE a girl.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (Ivdso)

82
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I cannot remember a single time in grade school that I wished, or even believed for an instant, that I was actually a girl. Of course, I was sane, so were my parents, and so (mostly) was our society.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (J2vNu)

I learned a LOT with our one and only child. They watch, they observe, they learn, they do what you do. I had yelled at her for something she did and later, while playing with her LPS dolls, she acted it out with the toys similarly.

Sent chills down my spine, it did.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

83 Since Paul Ryan endorsed him for 2024, I grow nervous about Ron

Posted by: CN

I'm sure he sees that it's either Trump or DeSantis, and ain't no way Ryan would endorse Trump.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (eOEVl)

84 Sabado Gigante !!!

Posted by: Bob at October 17, 2022 12:34 PM (x/Pak)

85 There is no hope.

Can I have your stuff?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:34 PM (eOEVl)

86 And yet...all the ads are cut. It's abortion all the time while news keeps percolating about how Democrats at every level want to cut off your kids dicks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

there's a point in a progression of events like this - whether it's in a company that's going bankrupt, or when you're in a car on black ice with all the tires locked up and you're not slowing down even the tiniest bit - where those in the middle of it just say "oh fuck it, time to ride it out and see what happens." No, it ain't gonna be anything good, but the time when good outcomes were possible is long since past.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:34 PM (trdmm)

87 No social worker should ever be elected to anything anywhere. Ever.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (lf83v)

I nominate them for head gallows test weight.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 12:34 PM (yHsuS)

88 Two comments.

How degraded and pathetic the electorate is - that this kind of toxic insanity is not greeted with instant political oblivion for the perps - continues to amaze and sicken. Introducing such an absurd and evil bill would have in prior times resulted in the end of Guzman's career, overnight.

The GOP leader here has stumbled upon part of the appropriate approach. Put every bit of toxic, hateful, illiterate, racist garbage that now constitutes the Dems' approach to public policy up for votes - constantly. Make them walk the plank.

Only problem on the federal level - the GOP is a big part of the problem, and feels comfortable voting for some absurd stuff (like the "gun control" legislation during this Congress).

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 12:34 PM (OTzUX)

89 They did it the wrong way. She should have gotten her foot in the door by making some mild consequence for misgendering, then quietly amend the statute in a year or two.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 12:34 PM (R8uWY)

90 83 I'm sure he sees that it's either Trump or DeSantis, and ain't no way Ryan would endorse Trump.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (eOEVl)

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It's Trump and no one else. GOPe talking up DeSantis is an act of desperation.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:34 PM (LvTSG)

91 83. I'd be more comfortable if DeSantis refused the endorsement

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2022 12:34 PM (Zzbjj)

92 No social worker should ever be elected to anything anywhere. Ever.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (lf83v)

Remember they get promoted by case load. The more "problems" they can find, the better they look to their bosses.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2022 12:34 PM (anj39)

93 Brooks trial day whatever- Shirtless Darrow is attempting to say that because someone took footage and sold it they are not credible because "they profited."

Part of me thinks Shirtless knows he is cooked and is just having a good time but the other part of me thinks he thinks he is not just gonna get a hung jury (a sad possibility) but is gonna be formally exonerated.

Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 12:35 PM (Lzpvj)

94 break the pumps

Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 12:35 PM (us2H3)

95 I do suspect that the lockdowns will hurt the crazy left far, far more than it helped them when all is told. All those businesses they closed, all those parents who saw the "education" their kids are getting, the economic damage that Biden has to try to explain away, etc.

They didn't even manage to get Trump out of office with the panic and lockdowns, they had to cheat massively to get that done.

And in the wake of their efforts as usual is a carpet of bodies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:35 PM (Ivdso)

96 yet another foreigner, just like Mayorkas.

they have to go back.

Posted by: x at October 17, 2022 12:36 PM (ZC2go)

97
Can I have your stuff?

Posted by: Archimedes

heh

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 17, 2022 12:36 PM (Y+l9t)

98 90 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:34 PM (LvTSG)

Strategically I would prefer DeSantis frankly.

Trump being their punching dummy is a good place for him as long as he is kept from jail.

Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 12:36 PM (Lzpvj)

99 It's Trump and no one else. GOPe talking up DeSantis is an act of desperation.

Now you're just trolling me.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:36 PM (eOEVl)

100 80 Why are they so desperate to mutilate children rather then wait at least until they're old enough to drink?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (eGTCV)

Because the pedo lobby wants this. Back in 2010is, some Brit pol pushed the idea that there is no harm in "consensual" pedophile activity

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2022 12:36 PM (Zzbjj)

101 good for the VA delegation - Rs - make them vote on it. love it!

don't let them ooze out of this

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 17, 2022 12:37 PM (w0NJk)

102 Alimentame sus ninos por favor !

Posted by: Bob at October 17, 2022 12:37 PM (x/Pak)

103 break the pumps
Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 12:35 PM (us2H3)

But not the lumps!

Posted by: Fetterman's Kuato at October 17, 2022 12:38 PM (Zz0t1)

104 "We've been trying to reach you about Camp LeJeune!"
--Decoded Ovaltine message

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:38 PM (Ivdso)

105 fuck it

I'm gonna make some Brussel sprouts and watch "The Train"

the GOAT movie

Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 12:38 PM (us2H3)

106 I had yelled at her for something she did and later, while playing with her LPS dolls, she acted it out with the toys similarly.

Sent chills down my spine, it did.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

In one incident, I saw a 7ish year old girl choke her little sister when older did not get her way.

In another separate incident, two obviously abused kids beat the crap out of their older step brother. In the latter (after CPS intervened), the guardians told the oldest girl that she should have lied to the school person who asked how the older step brother got his bruises.

I shudder to think what those kids go through.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 12:38 PM (yHsuS)

107 98 Strategically I would prefer DeSantis frankly.

Trump being their punching dummy is a good place for him as long as he is kept from jail.
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 12:36 PM (Lzpvj)

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DeSantis would be great, but the reality on the ground is that Trump is going to have the right side of the party's donors locked up within a week of the end of the midterms.

The left side of the party isn't going to be throwing money at DeSantis. Never mind the fact that Trump is going to walk away with IA, NH, and SC without even trying.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:38 PM (LvTSG)

108 87 No social worker should ever be elected to anything anywhere. Ever.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (lf83v)

You just reminded me of the old observation - when you put the word "Social" in front of any other word, then the second word is always a complete and total lie. Social Science, Social Justice, Social "Worker".

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:38 PM (trdmm)

109 I learned a LOT with our one and only child. They watch, they observe, they learn, they do what you do. I had yelled at her for something she did and later, while playing with her LPS dolls, she acted it out with the toys similarly.

Sent chills down my spine, it did.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)
***

When Granddaughter #1 of Diogenes was still in the high chair, we were all around the dinner table. She dropped her chicken leg on the floor, looked over the side and said "Oh my Damn it!"
Every head at the table turned and looked at me.
I of course, had no idea why.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2022 12:38 PM (anj39)

110 While the Democrats are saying "Don't worry, that bill will never even come to the floor," the Republican Speaker of the Virginia House of Delegates says, "Oh yeah it's definitely coming to the floor, because I'm going to bring it to the floor, and make every Democrat vote on it."
++++
Good.

Now watch some good, stalwart Republicans join the Dems to pass it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 12:39 PM (t0OGg)

111 All this horseshit that colleges have been teaching for years is showing up more and more.

A few of the young women in my family are based. These are the ones who didn't go to college.

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 12:39 PM (dCxaZ)

112 105 fuck it

I'm gonna make some Brussel sprouts and watch "The Train"

the GOAT movie
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Is this ghey pron?

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 12:39 PM (KY22T)

113 Well the Democrat president is an open pedo besides being a near vegetable with dementia.....

Posted by: steevy at October 17, 2022 12:39 PM (yezA1)

114 Maybe getting away with the 2020 Steal emboldened them so much that they truly did start to believe that they could get away with anything, an dhey dropped any inhibitions about what they wanted to do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:27 PM (trdmm)

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That, coupled with (1) the summer of mostly peaceful Burning, Looting, & Murdering, (2) Covidiocy Fascist Diktats causing incalculable harm, and literally hundreds of counts of sedition and treason for 5 years -- all going unpunished & in fact rewarded -- seems to have incentivized all manner of crime & destruction.

You get more of what you subsidize ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 12:39 PM (K0ehO)

115 @28 Tom Servo-Maybe the 2020 steal emboldened them? Why wouldn't it have? They've gotten away with it. They're on to throwing their political opponents, right down to parents here in this story, in jail.

There is no "maybe' about it. They are what they constantly tell us/you they are......tyrants.

Posted by: JROD at October 17, 2022 12:39 PM (0jZnq)

116 And in the wake of their efforts as usual is a carpet of bodies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:35 PM (Ivdso)

As is leftist tradition.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 12:39 PM (yHsuS)

117 Maybe getting away with the 2020 Steal emboldened them so much that they truly did start to believe that they could get away with anything, an dhey dropped any inhibitions about what they wanted to do.

Agree.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:40 PM (eOEVl)

118 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 17, 2022 12:40 PM (T4tVD)

119 Liberal woman to me this weekend. "I don't know what all the fuss about abortion in NY is based on. Nothing has changed here. It's not a federal right- so what? Don't these people have cars or buses available? Meanwhile I can't afford gas for my car or groceries. "

Me: 😳

Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2022 12:40 PM (T0jQj)

120 Never heard of her before today and she looks just like I thought she would.

Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 12:40 PM (gmo/4)

121 It's like they want to be dunked on.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at October 17, 2022 12:40 PM (gv7Yb)

122 Not saying that the electorate is stupid, but it was just last week that the Baltimore Election Commission warned folks to look at their 2022 ballot carefully.

Seems that 2020 ballots are suddenly being cast, and are being received by USPS at the Election Commission.

One would think that having to chose between Biden and Trump for President might be a hint that you have received the wrong mail-in ballot for 2022.

But hey, what ya gonna do, right?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 12:40 PM (uLr+K)

123 They did it the wrong way. She should have gotten her foot in the door by making some mild consequence for misgendering, then quietly amend the statute in a year or two.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 12:34 PM (R8uWY)

True. But before this, it was global warming "deniers."

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (yHsuS)

124 here's the scary thing, you guys.

what if the communist agitator left that stole the election and staged their own rheichstagg fire on 1/6 wasn't incompetent and completely inhabited by pervy lizard demons?

They'd get away with it. The politicized DOJ, the end of lawyer client privilege for republicans, the SWAT raids, the mail in ballots, the everything.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (MLrvz)

125 119 Liberal woman to me this weekend. "I don't know what all the fuss about abortion in NY is based on. Nothing has changed here. It's not a federal right- so what? Don't these people have cars or buses available? Meanwhile I can't afford gas for my car or groceries. "

Me: 😳
Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2022 12:40 PM (T0jQj)

========

Don't forget to let her know that Republicans hate the gays, so she can't vote Democrat or else she hates the gays.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (LvTSG)

126
The only way Guzman is gonna pounce on anything is if you staple a concha pastry on top.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (n+4am)

127 Guarantee you that each and every single one of these kids that demand their parents let them mutilate their bodies will blame said parents for their fvcked up decision somewhere down the line.

Back in the day if you had a really troubled kid you could take them to a counselor or a psychiatrist but you can't do that anymore because the first thing they will "recommend" if get your kids dick cut off.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (bVYXr)

128 Those who supported this same bill in 2020 are now saying there's no support for it and they won't support it, so don't worry about it! Just kidding, we're not going to send parents to jail! (Until we get the political strength to send them to jail...)

And that's the thing. They never give up, just do a tactical retreat and await better timing.

Meanwhile, we bleed out from the other 999 cuts they are currently sawing on.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (JOtiF)

129 107 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:38 PM (LvTSG)

2024 Re-re-elect Trump is a fun narrative but the mules have nearly a full decade of ten minutes of hate towards him.

This is "history Sven" talking Trump winning will drive the lunatic left into a full blown insurgency with explosions not handmaiden's tale dresses....they fully believe 60% of America agrees with their lunacy.

A lie propagated by socialist media and the news.

Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (Lzpvj)

130 why would they get away with it?

because the gop has completely surrendered. We make fun of Liz Cheney and Kinzinger but for all intents and purposes they ARE teh GOP.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (MLrvz)

131 First they used the gays wanting to be married because love is love. But they assured us they had no interest in the children.

Then they had a right to adopt and raise kids.

Then, unless they adopted kids to prostitute them, they realized raising kids is hard work. Plus their numbers are too small to effect the change they want this way.

So now to expand their woke numbers and continue to destroy society they want to castrate our kids bodies and minds. They've come for our children.

As I expected they would.

Pedophilia without legal constraint is in the works.

Posted by: Floridachick at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (Uk/+L)

132 Looking at the dead tree Philly inquirer...they are in full panic mode over the coming polio epidemic.

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (dCxaZ)

133 My cousin and her husband are big time college types, they basically stayed in college for their whole lives, working at them. He's a botany prof (head of the department) and she works at college. They're perpetual students, basically.

My aunt, who is smart and conservative, talks to them for hours every week and despite knowing better has had her entire worldview warped by their constant corrosive input.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:42 PM (Ivdso)

134 When I grow up I want to move to another country, gain power, and then tell its citizens how they should live, or else.

Posted by: weew at October 17, 2022 12:42 PM (+m+uH)

135 >>>It's waaaay past time to make it painful for people to FAFO.
Posted by: rickb223

This. So much this.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 17, 2022 12:42 PM (VWp7G)

136 My opinion (worth what you pay for it) is that DeSantis is making sure he's ready if Trump flames out for some reason; but I really doubt that he'll go head to head and run a contested race against Trump. He doesn't need to; we often forget that at only 44 years old, he is currently the youngest Governor in the entre country. He doesn't need to be in a hurry to run for the Presidency, he's got decades to play with.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:42 PM (trdmm)

137 Liberal woman to me this weekend. "I don't know what all the fuss about abortion in NY is based on. Nothing has changed here. It's not a federal right- so what? Don't these people have cars or buses available? Meanwhile I can't afford gas for my car or groceries. "

Me: 😳
Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2022 12:40 PM (T0jQj)
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Wow. Somebody who actually gets what Dobbs did.

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2022 12:42 PM (krQz2)

138 129 2024 Re-re-elect Trump is a fun narrative but the mules have nearly a full decade of ten minutes of hate towards him.

This is "history Sven" talking Trump winning will drive the lunatic left into a full blown insurgency with explosions not handmaiden's tale dresses....they fully believe 60% of America agrees with their lunacy.

A lie propagated by socialist media and the news.
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (Lzpvj)

=======

I mean, maybe? But it's not going to stop Trump from calling all the donors in mid-November and securing enough money to laugh his way to the nomination in 2024.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:43 PM (LvTSG)

139 134 When I grow up I want to move to another country, gain power, and then tell its citizens how they should live, or else.
Posted by: weew at October 17, 2022 12:42 PM (+m+uH)

Hail Freedonia!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:43 PM (trdmm)

140 ¡Pobrecita!

Posted by: Fox2! at October 17, 2022 12:43 PM (qyH+l)

141 "Nobody will ever trust Democrats again, no after how much they backpedal."

The demo to which this applies is pretty small.

The Dems will have a lock on all of the largest states, save one, for the foreseeable future. As 2020 redundantly but conclusively demonstrated, they can run an empty soup can for president - without even having a campaign - and beat the most popular GOP president in a generation.

And despite the wishcasting that is reaching a fever pitch, the GOP is not transforming any time soon. And the garbage institutions continue to collapse without pause.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 12:43 PM (OTzUX)

142 130 Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (MLrvz)

Right which is why they were reelected and are steering GOP policy....

wait.

Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 12:43 PM (Lzpvj)

143 Crenshaw/ Kinzinger '24?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 12:44 PM (R8uWY)

144 I don't know what all the fuss about abortion in NY is based on. Nothing has changed here. It's not a federal right- so what? Don't these people have cars or buses available? Meanwhile I can't afford gas for my car or groceries.

I mean, that's the facts of life, and all the abortion ad spamming in the world won't shift that a single millimeter. People don't vote on airy things like who can get an abortion in Nevada. They vote on what impacts them at home, directly, and nearly 20% inflation is a kick in the teeth every single day.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:44 PM (Ivdso)

145 Back in the day if you had a really troubled kid you could take them to a counselor or a psychiatrist but you can't do that anymore because the first thing they will "recommend" if get your kids dick cut off.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (bVYXr)

Hmmm....
OR....
If the kid is getting into trouble, you could threaten him by saying you're gong to take him to the counsellor and have their dick cut off.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2022 12:44 PM (anj39)

146 My opinion (worth what you pay for it) is that DeSantis is making sure he's ready if Trump flames out for some reason; but I really doubt that he'll go head to head and run a contested race against Trump. He doesn't need to; we often forget that at only 44 years old, he is currently the youngest Governor in the entre country. He doesn't need to be in a hurry to run for the Presidency, he's got decades to play with.

Plausible, but I still hope for a DeSantis candidacy.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:44 PM (eOEVl)

147 68 She needs to be better educated about the hardness of hickory.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (VaSD4)
===

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2iPdjH4IiM

Posted by: Augustine at October 17, 2022 12:44 PM (BDZWU)

148 And apparently this twatbag is from Peru and hasn't been in this country very long but she presumes to make foundational cultural changes because reasons.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 17, 2022 12:44 PM (/gpPe)

149 Not at all. The GOP cannot change and will never change at any level. Every single GOP person who gets elected to any position automatically becomes Mitch McConnell.

I assume this is a bit of hyperbole. Otherwise, Ron DeSantis would like a word with you.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (eOEVl)

Federal GOP and state level GOPs are worlds apart. At the fed level it does seem like the vast majority of them do turn into establishment hacks. Not all but certainly most.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 12:44 PM (A+qp1)

150 >>>And apparently this twatbag is from Peru and hasn't been in this country very long but she presumes to make foundational cultural changes because reasons.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

She wants to turn America into Peru, so everyone can live awful lives.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (VWp7G)

151 Speaking of ponces, Elton John was in concert in Tacoma last night.

Thanks to Freddy and QEII dying, he's Britain's oldest queen.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (NlFlr)

152 Right which is why they were reelected and are steering GOP policy

I mean, he over stated it for effect, but he's not entirely wrong. McCain died in office. The GOP leadership is made up entirely of what people erroneously call "RINOS". Reagan was a RINO. Trump is a RINO. The Republican Party is just boilerplate GOPe.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (Ivdso)

153 I mean, maybe? But it's not going to stop Trump from calling all the donors in mid-November and securing enough money to laugh his way to the nomination in 2024.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:43 PM (LvTSG)

And I'll gladly vote for him. If DeSantis cozies up to the GOPe, I will suspect that he will "evolve" in office.

Posted by: CN at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (Zzbjj)

154 136 My opinion (worth what you pay for it) is that DeSantis is making sure he's ready if Trump flames out for some reason; but I really doubt that he'll go head to head and run a contested race against Trump. He doesn't need to; we often forget that at only 44 years old, he is currently the youngest Governor in the entre country. He doesn't need to be in a hurry to run for the Presidency, he's got decades to play with.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:42 PM (trdmm)

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Another factor is that DeSantis isn't accidentally getting media attention that leads to his sudden popularity. It's been sustained because he has decided to take the fight to the left in the most public of ways.

He's operating like he doesn't think he's a flash in the pan. He's operating like he understands the game and is going to play it for a long time.

He won't need to take advantage now of his popularity because he thinks he can keep this up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (LvTSG)

155 Somebody should sit these people down and explain the "millstone around the neck" passage from the Bible.

Posted by: they need leave the kids alone, but they won't at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (PrdT5)

156 At this point, Trump is immune to the October surprise. Well, as long as nobody finds out about the re-animated Hitler skull he keeps in his bedroom.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (R8uWY)

157 143 Crenshaw/ Kinzinger '24?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 12:44 PM (R8uWY)

eye catching

Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (us2H3)

158 DeSantis would be great, but the reality on the ground is that Trump is going to have the right side of the party's donors locked up within a week of the end of the midterms.

The left side of the party isn't going to be throwing money at DeSantis. Never mind the fact that Trump is going to walk away with IA, NH, and SC without even trying.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:38 PM (LvTSG)

I would give money to Desantis, but not to Trump, and I'm on the right side of the Right. The liberals I have talked to are completely out on Trump but would vote for DeSantis above any Democrat.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 12:46 PM (sI15f)

159 You just reminded me of the old observation - when you put the word "Social" in front of any other word, then the second word is always a complete and total lie. Social Science, Social Justice, Social "Worker".

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:38 PM (trdmm)

---------

Social "Security."

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 12:46 PM (DpAEX)

160 And apparently this twatbag is from Peru and hasn't been in this country very long but she presumes to make foundational cultural changes because reasons.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

She wants to turn America into Peru, so everyone can live awful lives.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

A Guinea pig in every pot!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 12:46 PM (NlFlr)

161 She needs to be better educated about the hardness of hickory.

https://youtu.be/wiPK3Ij6QMQ

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:46 PM (Ivdso)

162 155 Somebody should sit these people down and explain the "millstone around the neck" passage from the Bible.
Posted by: they need leave the kids alone, but they won't at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (PrdT5)

Agreed!

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 12:46 PM (sI15f)

163 If DeSantis doesn’t run then where does he go? He is term limited as gov and I don’t see either Scott or Rubio stepping aside for him. So yeah only 44 but also gotta strike while the iron is hot.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 12:46 PM (A+qp1)

164 By the way, this is the language of the gender affirmation clinics.

They 'educate' parents that transition is the only option. Especially with toddlers.

Posted by: MJ at October 17, 2022 12:46 PM (zwDuR)

165
The punishment has nothing to do with the crime, and will make earning money much, much harder because you really need a car in most of California. The implication - unstated but obvious - is "pay up or lose your job" and then you'll go to jail.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 17, 2022 12:25 PM

That's truly nasty. Here in Pennsylvania dead-beat Dads can't purchase a fishing license. So they can't bait a fish hook for their kids. So their boys and girls learn to do it on their own and take a first step toward self-sufficiency in life.

Oh, yeah, what was my point again?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 12:47 PM (y3pKJ)

166 "Crenshaw/ Kinzinger '24?"

It moved.

Posted by: David French at October 17, 2022 12:47 PM (qH6FZ)

167 Somebody should sit these people down and explain the "millstone around the neck" passage from the Bible.

There are many Biblical passages about how much God hates those who abuse or harm children, and how much God considers children His own. Look at how Jesus treated kids.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:47 PM (Ivdso)

168 Plausible, but I still hope for a DeSantis candidacy.
==
Its inevitable. Its just a matter of timing and circumstances.

Posted by: what is happening now is out of mortal hands at October 17, 2022 12:47 PM (rv0Ew)

169 157 143 Crenshaw/ Kinzinger '24?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 12:44 PM (R8uWY)

eye catching
Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (us2H3)

Admit it, it'd be kind of cool if Crenshaw took off that patch and had a Crazy Eye like that guy in Harry Potter. Or a Terminator Eye that shot out laser beams.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:47 PM (trdmm)

170 163 If DeSantis doesn’t run then where does he go? He is term limited as gov and I don’t see either Scott or Rubio stepping aside for him. So yeah only 44 but also gotta strike while the iron is hot.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 12:46 PM (A+qp1)

=========

If he wins this year, he's got 4 more years, ending in 2026. Assuming he doesn't accept the VP slot from Trump (90% probability that's the plan), he finishes his term just in time to start campaigning for president at the beginning of 2027.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:47 PM (LvTSG)

171 I would give money to Desantis, but not to Trump, and I'm on the right side of the Right. The liberals I have talked to are completely out on Trump but would vote for DeSantis above any Democrat.
Posted by: Miss Issippi

I don't give my hard earned money to ANYONE who can grift more in one day than I make in a year.

Hard and fast rule.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 12:48 PM (NlFlr)

172 128 Those who supported this same bill in 2020 are now saying there's no support for it and they won't support it, so don't worry about it! Just kidding, we're not going to send parents to jail! (Until we get the political strength to send them to jail...)

And that's the thing. They never give up, just do a tactical retreat and await better timing.

Meanwhile, we bleed out from the other 999 cuts they are currently sawing on.
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (JOtiF)

^^^Agree. That this bill was proposed by DEMs before is the big takeaway and should be ADVERTISED everywhere. This is not new or isolated. Dems have been this "crazy" for a long while. (They are actually evil but crazy is more platable to LIVs).

Posted by: Iris at October 17, 2022 12:48 PM (foa6+)

173 155 Somebody should sit these people down and explain the "millstone around the neck" passage from the Bible.
Posted by: they need leave the kids alone, but they won't at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (PrdT5)

As if they care one whit about what's in the Bible.

They refuse to see or hear anything to do with it.

Posted by: Just Lily at October 17, 2022 12:48 PM (1Nzxv)

174 Did you see that Elon Musk has told pro-war folks that they can donate cash to help maintain Ukraine's Starlink internet services?

https://tinyurl.com/2osq5utw

I'm betting crickets, though. Because there's no path for politicians and families to skim off the top.

Posted by: Gray Man at October 17, 2022 12:48 PM (CpCeB)

175 Crenshaw/ Kinzinger '24?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 12:44 PM (R8uWY)

eye catching

Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (us2H3)

They lack vision and cry a lot.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 12:48 PM (yHsuS)

176 If he wins this year, he's got 4 more years, ending in 2026. Assuming he doesn't accept the VP slot from Trump (90% probability that's the plan), he finishes his term just in time to start campaigning for president at the beginning of 2027.

He won't accept Veep under Trump. It would be a disaster for him.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:49 PM (eOEVl)

177 Hmmm...I can think of at least one mother of 4 that should have a little visit from Virginia CPS.

Posted by: Oliver Wendell Holmes at October 17, 2022 12:49 PM (S7une)

178 You're not gonna see that 29 year old Wymyn's Studies graduate with the 11 cats and green hair having self doubt.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 12:29 PM (Ivdso)

Self doubt is a tool of the patriarchy.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 12:49 PM (zhLdt)

179 when I was in high school I didn't really give a shit about my 300 lb. counselor's "advice".

Posted by: x at October 17, 2022 12:49 PM (ZC2go)

180 Pedophilia without legal constraint is in the works.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (Uk/+L)

We have almost gone full Sodom and Gomorrah.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 12:50 PM (sI15f)

181 Pretty soon abortion won't be an issue because all the young adults will be sterile from this experimentation.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 17, 2022 12:50 PM (Y+l9t)

182 If he wins this year, he's got 4 more years, ending in 2026. Assuming he doesn't accept the VP slot from Trump (90% probability that's the plan), he finishes his term just in time to start campaigning for president at the beginning of 2027.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:47 PM (LvTSG)

Fair point.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 12:50 PM (A+qp1)

183 Seems that 2020 ballots are suddenly being cast, and are being received by USPS at the Election Commission.

One would think that having to chose between Biden and Trump for President might be a hint that you have received the wrong mail-in ballot for 2022.

But hey, what ya gonna do, right?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 12:40 PM (uLr+K)

———

ROTFLMAO

Is Trump ahead?!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 17, 2022 12:50 PM (kouBO)

184 Fat former Marine in a bar: Hey, young lady. I know you've heard all the lines, but in 1983, I drank water at Camp LeJeune.

Hot Chick in Bar: Hello, gorgeous.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 12:50 PM (lf83v)

185 If DeSantis doesn’t run then where does he go?

State Lege > Governor > US Rep or Senate > President

Used to be Governor > President (because of executive experience) But Obama broke that mold.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 12:50 PM (NlFlr)

186 Don't worry, that bill will never even come to the floor

This is part of the game. The reason they float these ideas is to get the FNM talking about them so later they don't seem so extreme.

Before: No one even wants that thing! That's just a right wing conspiracy

Then: Its just some leftwing activists talking about it, don't be some crazy wingnut thinking we really want it

A little bit later: This thing is just a common sense solution to (some made up problem). You'd have to be a racist to oppose it!

Finally: See even Republicans support the thing. Anyone that opposes it faces arrest.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 12:50 PM (ESjRY)

187 It would be a mistake to believe the same people who will wipe out Democrats at every level in the midterms will vote for Trump. While poll after poll shows that, I don't need them to tell me that. I know plenty of people who lean other ways who tell me that. Fair or not, Trump is controversial and he will be far better than any Democrat. People know that intuitively. But there is just something about him that turns some people away off. The other factor is that some people want to move beyond this generation of old politicians, and Trump is one of them.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2022 12:50 PM (T0jQj)

188 >>>A Guinea pig in every pot!
Posted by: rickb223

YUMMAY!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 17, 2022 12:50 PM (VWp7G)

189 Somebody should sit these people down and explain the "millstone around the neck" passage from the Bible.
*

The problem being that these same folks think a smart-ass quip from a murderer in response to being asked by an all-knowing God where his brother was is the basis of their core theological beliefs.

Posted by: Gray Man at October 17, 2022 12:50 PM (CpCeB)

190 >>>Did the Red Wave election in Virginia in 2021 not teach you a lesson?

>>>Very well then: It is time for another lesson.

>>>This one more painful. So that you won't forget again.

Dear Japan, now that you have experienced an atomic weapon, do you surrender? No? Wrong answer.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at October 17, 2022 12:51 PM (QYPq3)

191 He won't accept Veep under Trump. It would be a disaster for him.

Also, there was that story that ran for a day or two that he had called Trump a "f***ing moron". I have no idea if it was true, but the damage was probably done anyway.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:51 PM (eOEVl)

192 By the way, this is the language of the gender affirmation clinics.

They 'educate' parents that transition is the only option. Especially with toddlers.
Posted by: MJ at October 17, 2022 12:46 PM (zwDuR)
---
Because to them, the only "choice" available is the one they support. Same with abortion clinics--they are as anti-"choice" as anyone could imagine.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 17, 2022 12:51 PM (YIVH2)

193 Off Topic: Now that Ukraine seems to be winning, the Neocons seem to be upping the ante?

The Institute for the Study of War posted an editorial saying Ukraine has to take back all its territory.
https://tinyurl.com/mrfmdnvn

The US is supposedly putting together another Billion Dollar arms give-away. Ukraine wants longer range ATACMS Ballistic Missiles along with more HIMARS missiles, and others are pushing to give Ukraine modern Main Battle Tanks and modern Fighter Jets. Sure seems they want to push Russia into a corner.

Putin is so crazy and impulsive that he started the Ukraine War. On the other hand, everyone knows Putin is not crazy enough to use nukes. We should continue to push Putin by escalating the war by giving Ukraine more offensive weapons because, We are The West and WE are Morally Superior.

Posted by: rd at October 17, 2022 12:51 PM (Z32m1)

194 DeSantis will be the first GenX prezzie. I’m excited.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 12:51 PM (A+qp1)

195 If DeSantis doesn’t run then where does he go? He is term limited as gov and I don’t see either Scott or Rubio stepping aside for him. So yeah only 44 but also gotta strike while the iron is hot.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 12:46 PM (A+qp1)
***

If Trump stumbles (doubtful) DeSantis steps in.
If Trump wins, DeSantis does the next term as Gov, then accepts post as Ambassador to UN, to build foreign relations expertise. Then runs in 28.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2022 12:51 PM (anj39)

196 In similar news, the NC parent who read the book found in the kid's classroom was all just an accident. You know the teacher had the book in the private book area. Nothing at all strange that a book describing explicit homosexual sex was in the classroom. Ooopsie!

Posted by: WiNO at October 17, 2022 12:52 PM (EpDzw)

197 163 If DeSantis doesn’t run then where does he go? He is term limited as gov and I don’t see either Scott or Rubio stepping aside for him. So yeah only 44 but also gotta strike while the iron is hot.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 12:46 PM (A

After the win in a couple of weeks, he's Governor until 2026. It wouldn't hurt him at all politically to stay Governor til '26 and then devote 2 years to campaigning for the 2028 elections, when it looks like there won't be any incumbent running.

Ronald Reagan spent 4 years, starting in 1976, doing nothing but campaigning for the Presidency.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:52 PM (trdmm)

198 I cannot remember a single time in grade school that I wished, or even believed for an instant, that I was actually a girl. Of course, I was sane, so were my parents, and so (mostly) was our society.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (J2vNu)

Growing up in the era of the tube top left no doubt I was 100% male.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 12:52 PM (VwHCD)

199 185 State Lege > Governor > US Rep or Senate > President

Used to be Governor > President (because of executive experience) But Obama broke that mold.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 12:50 PM (NlFlr)

=========

Before that was Secretary of State > President.

I want that to come back. Make DeSantis SecState, have him clean up the State Department, and manage foreign policy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:52 PM (LvTSG)

200 What ShainS said @114.

And remember almost all actual Dem voters don't think they got away with election fraud. They mindlessly swallow and repeat the "election denial" idiocy, if they give it any thought at all.

There were some survey results that were kinda shocking, showing what % of Dems suspected a fraudulent election process in 2020, but those perceptions are too weak or too easily smothered by the standard tribal mindless impulses that they do not appear to have had any lasting impact.

And a key but uncomfortable point that remains despite all this - if indeed the 2020 presidential was stolen, it wasn't stolen by millions, it was stolen by a few 10s of thousands (the actual margins that turned the electoral outcome). If a GOP candidate as comically absurd as Biden were ever to run, he/she would win about 7 states. By a small margin.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 12:52 PM (OTzUX)

201 >>>They lack vision and cry a lot.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur

Plus, Crenshaw's campaign paid money to his wife's firm. Wow, he really is a Democrat

https://bit.ly/3CMfaS6

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 17, 2022 12:52 PM (VWp7G)

202 I'm not worried about Trump or DeSantis. That's for the future. I'm more interested in what the Dems and Dominion and the big city boards of election have cooked up for next month.

Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2022 12:53 PM (6eRlp)

203 I don't give my hard earned money to ANYONE who can grift more in one day than I make in a year.

Hard and fast rule.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 12:48 PM (NlFlr)

Oh, I agree with you. I don't do any political donating...but if I had to, I would give it to Desantis. I have lost 100% confidence in Trump and the "revenge win" people tout as a reason to vote him in makes me literally sick to my stomach.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 12:53 PM (sI15f)

204 "ROTFLMAO

Is Trump ahead?!"

It's Baltimore.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 12:53 PM (uLr+K)

205 Assuming he doesn't accept the VP slot from Trump (90% probability that's the plan)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison at October 17, 2022 12:47 PM

That plan has one flaw: The Electoral College.
Either DeSantis or Trump would have to "move" from Florida (and the sitting governor would not be the one to move) or either the P or VP does not get Florida's 30 (as of 2024) electoral votes.

"The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves"

Posted by: Chuck C at October 17, 2022 12:53 PM (xttsV)

206 It's amazing that we have already won the mid terms with MAGA candidates, begun reversing all of the lefts destruction AND have won he 24' Presidential Election with DeSantis or Trump.

Not bad for it only being October 17, 2022.

Posted by: JROD at October 17, 2022 12:54 PM (0jZnq)

207 Someday DeSantis is going to have to speak on foreign policy. He can't avoid it forever if he wants to be Pres someday.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 17, 2022 12:54 PM (qH6FZ)

208 Putin is so crazy and impulsive that he started the Ukraine War. On the other hand, everyone knows Putin is not crazy enough to use nukes. We should continue to push Putin by escalating the war by giving Ukraine more offensive weapons because, We are The West and WE are Morally Superior.

Posted by: rd

1) Can't you people ever give the Ukraine hate a rest? You seem so personally invested in it.
2) You're right. We should have just kissed Putin's ass and let him do whatever he wanted, because he has nukes.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:54 PM (eOEVl)

209 Good! Put it up for vote!. Republicans need to do a lot more seizing and pouncing on the Democrat party, not giving them a big bipartisan hug!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 12:54 PM (vH/6k)

210 Growing up in the era of the tube top left no doubt I was 100% male.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 12:52 PM (VwHCD)

Kind of hard not to with that constant nagging reminder.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 12:54 PM (yHsuS)

211 She wants to turn America into Peru, so everyone can live awful lives.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 17, 2022 12:45 PM (VWp7G)

---------

"Something something equal in slavery & misery something something unequal in freedom & prosperity."

-- Stuff de Tocqueville Probably Stole from Jefferson, Vol. 1

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 12:54 PM (PSylt)

212 205 That plan has one flaw: The Electoral College.
Either DeSantis or Trump would have to "move" from Florida (and the sitting governor would not be the one to move) or either the P or VP does not get Florida's 30 (as of 2024) electoral votes.

"The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves"
Posted by: Chuck C at October 17, 2022 12:53 PM (xttsV)

=========

Trump owns properties in several states. It's done with the signing of a single form, effectively.

Stop bringing this up. It's a non-issue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:55 PM (LvTSG)

213 >>>I'm more interested in what the Dems and Dominion and the big city boards of election have cooked up for next month.

Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2022 12:53 PM (6eRlp)

I'm more interested in what the See Eye Eh/N Essay/Eff Bee Eye have cooked up for before next month.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at October 17, 2022 12:55 PM (QYPq3)

214 A fun Veep for Trump would be Kari Lake. Although I think she coul d do more good by staying in Arizona and helping clean that mess up.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:55 PM (trdmm)

215 I cannot remember a single time in grade school that I wished, or even believed for an instant, that I was actually a girl. Of course, I was sane, so were my parents, and so (mostly) was our society.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

*

There was a really good article posted the other day, probably in JJ's thread. I'll see if I can find it.

Essentially sexuality is pretty much fixed and known, but taboos - and shame - are required to reinforce it. When those taboos/shame go away, you get 30% of college kids pretending they're gay instead of the standard 1% that was sexually or mentally abused.

Posted by: Gray Man at October 17, 2022 12:55 PM (CpCeB)

216 >>>Did the Red Wave election in Virginia in 2021 not teach you a lesson?

>>>Very well then: It is time for another lesson.

>>>This one more painful. So that you won't forget again.

Dear Japan, now that you have experienced an atomic weapon, do you surrender? No? Wrong answer.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at October 17, 2022 12:51 PM (QYPq3)

The problem is they really haven't been punished yet. Oh, they'll take losing some elections. Until they are losing careers and income earning ability, it won't matter. There need to be arrests and convictions. We've barely done anything to them.

Posted by: WiNO at October 17, 2022 12:55 PM (EpDzw)

217 CN, Ryan’s endorsement is another talking point for D’s here who bitch DeSantis doesn’t want to be “our” Governor, but is going to spend the next two years running for President. Ryan is a D, working for Ds.

Posted by: EveR at October 17, 2022 12:55 PM (MUpk6)

218 206 Posted by: JROD at October 17, 2022 12:54 PM (0jZnq)

You are right, donkey is on the ropes it must mean we are losing again!

DOOM, DOOM DOOM, DOOMDOOOOOMMMMMM!

Look I get it even in winning we will lose to a degree because we will not be able to override the groper's vetoes and Mooch will not change the filibuster rule to actual REAL old school filibusters.

Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 12:55 PM (Lzpvj)

219 2020: You can't vote for Trump, he'll start a nuclear war

2022: A little limited nuclear exchange never hurt anyone

2022 Oct: Hey Jill is this big red button the one I press when I need my diaper changed? Jill? Jill? Someone shat in my depends again so I'm going to hit the button ok?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 17, 2022 12:56 PM (ESjRY)

220 You gotta hand it to 'em.

Almost without a doubt, the tube top was invented by a man.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 12:56 PM (uLr+K)

221 I want that to come back. Make DeSantis SecState, have him clean up the State Department, and manage foreign policy.

Mike Pompeo might want the job back after he loses this year, and he was good at it.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:56 PM (eOEVl)

222 @183

>>Is Trump ahead?!

Trump was ahead as of Friday but sadly, several tranches of votes came in over the weekend and broke 125pct for Biden.

Sucks, but thems the breaks.
--
Dominion Tabulator Tabulating and Adjudicating Like Crazy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 17, 2022 12:56 PM (/gpPe)

223 So Dems believe it is not OK for parents to try to change a child's behavior top conform to their genitals but it is OK (mandatory) to change their genitals to conform to their behavior.

Posted by: Ripley at October 17, 2022 12:56 PM (MxEKc)

224 the rot runs deep in the gop, hopefully the new red wave will bring in deep changes and no more mitch and lyndsey running things

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 12:56 PM (MLrvz)

225 Pounce and seize like tiger!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 12:56 PM (V6f9+)

226 He won't accept Veep under Trump. It would be a disaster for him.

Also, there was that story that ran for a day or two that he had called Trump a "f***ing moron". I have no idea if it was true, but the damage was probably done anyway.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:51 PM (eOEVl)

Anonymous Sources Say "Let's You and Him Fight!"

Posted by: rd at October 17, 2022 12:57 PM (Z32m1)

227 also, feed Elizabeth Guzman to starving tigers.

But shave her first.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 12:57 PM (V6f9+)

228 I would love to see DeSantis as the head of the DOJ and clean that up!

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 12:57 PM (sI15f)

229 It is very likely Nagasaki did not much affect the weird and complicated dynamics in Tokyo that led to the surrender. Those were adequately energized by Hiroshima, as they gave Lord Kido and the 2 "peace party" members of the Big Six the basis to enable Hirohito's clear preference for surrender.

Two books: Japan 1941, and Japan's Longest Day . Bookends, one about the start, the other about the end, of the war from inside the leadership circles. Both sort of jaw-dropping in their own way. Highly recommended for those with an interest in the actual history.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (OTzUX)

230 Again, as has been noted, The GOP has controlled Congress for 20 of the last 28 years, just saying.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (/gpPe)

231 The problem is they really haven't been punished yet. Oh, they'll take losing some elections. Until they are losing careers and income earning ability, it won't matter. There need to be arrests and convictions. We've barely done anything to them.

I think you're projecting what motivates you and other normal people. Dem pols are motivated by power, and only power. Taking that away from them is like death.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (eOEVl)

232 Is anyone else's font tiny?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (sI15f)

233 Director Christopher Wray’s use of FBI jet amounts to ‘embezzlement,’ current and ex-agents allege

https://tinyurl.com/39m5er98

Posted by: redridinghood at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (NpAcC)

234 Someday DeSantis is going to have to speak on foreign policy. He can't avoid it forever if he wants to be Pres someday.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 17, 2022 12:54 PM (qH6FZ)

-------

I've been calling on him to invade & conquer Cuba for months now. Call it South Florida & make it the 51st state ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (2XTRD)

235 Is anyone else's font tiny?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (sI15f)

Mine is manly and girthy.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 12:59 PM (yHsuS)

236 Growing up in the era of the tube top left no doubt I was 100% male.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 12:52 PM (VwHCD)

Kind of hard not to with that constant nagging reminder.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 12:54 PM (yHsuS)

lol, right?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 12:59 PM (VwHCD)

237 also, the point isn't whether reagan's a rino. his world in 1980 was the old america. not the present 3rd world hell hole.

the point is is that the 2020 stolen election and anti-police riots ( not that they're much use when they only collect tickets) was basically the fash lefts' great leap forward. they really meant to tear down everything and go full Mooselini style on us with "vax" passports and no free speech

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 12:59 PM (MLrvz)

238 Nobody who actually wants to be President should ever be Veep. It's a useless second fiddle job for useless second fiddle party hacks.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 12:59 PM (trdmm)

239 When they say they want you to lose your job, they mean: I want you dead.

They want you homeless.
They want you penniless.
They want you to starve to death.

So they can feel good about themselves.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 17, 2022 12:59 PM (Zf0+a)

240 oh right, you republicans have free speech, it'll just cost you a billion a piece.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 12:59 PM (MLrvz)

241 Miss Issippi, CTRL+Mousewheel Up.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 01:00 PM (yHsuS)

242 The left don't like, or have a good answer to, the groomer label:
During a congressional debate on Sunday, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) alleged the Democratic Party “represents grooming children and sexualizing them in school” while questioning her opponent, Marcus Flowers.

In response, Flowers only said that he’d pray for Greene:

He'll Pray For Her? CALL HER A FUCKING MORON!! Don't say you'll pray for her. It hardly matters since it's like an 80% repub District. But we need to ATTACK these PIECES OF SHIT, not use mamby pamby language like "I'll Pray For Her."

He should also demand that she show actual proof of all that BS she's spouting. And he should've kept demanding proof everytime she opened her lying, republican talking points spewing mouth.

Oohh...the left should be careful with this angle. When normies see the horrors of gender surgery, and traumatized, mutilated children that regret their decision, it doesn't end well...

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 17, 2022 01:00 PM (ZJlxc)

243 >>I've been calling on him to invade & conquer Cuba for months now. Call it South Florida & make it the 51st state ...

Seems like half of the Cuban population already lives in Florida.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 01:00 PM (ZLI7S)

244 Are there no Democrats who hesitate to criminalize normality?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 17, 2022 01:01 PM (eGTCV)

245 1) Can't you people ever give the Ukraine hate a rest? You seem so personally invested in it.
2) You're right. We should have just kissed Putin's ass and let him do whatever he wanted, because he has nukes.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:54 PM (eOEVl)

It isn't Ukraine hate. It is incessant, propaganda hate. It is an understanding that the conflict is more complicated than "Putin is Hitler!" It is frustration that people who doubt FBI/CIA/DoD/Gov/MSM narratives on everything else fall into line once they wave the flag.

Posted by: WiNO at October 17, 2022 01:01 PM (EpDzw)

246 Over 200 comments and not one play on stanky biotch.

Disappoint.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 17, 2022 01:01 PM (SIZS3)

247 242 He'll Pray For Her? CALL HER A FUCKING MORON!! Don't say you'll pray for her. It hardly matters since it's like an 80% repub District. But we need to ATTACK these PIECES OF SHIT, not use mamby pamby language like "I'll Pray For Her."

Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 17, 2022 01:00 PM (ZJlxc)

==========

"We don't want to groom children! Fuck you! Just give me your children to mutilate and abuse!"
-The Left's base's preferred campaign message

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

248 It will be like the Defense of Marriage Act. Lots of Democrats will vote for it, and Bill Clinton will sign it, then go out and bash Republicans for passing it.

Posted by: MikeN at October 17, 2022 01:01 PM (HVIzT)

249 v230 Again, as has been noted, The GOP has controlled Congress for 20 of the last 28 years, just saying

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right, to my earlier point about kinzinger/cheney.

We won 2010 midterms and first thing we did was cement obama's spending.

trump wins election and Mitch forces last minute poison pill spending bills on trump with anti-wall provisions (no concrete, memba that).

the same GOP that wanted to use Jeb! with his $100M warchest in 2016 as a battering ram against the undesirable base.

new blood because the GOP is basically worse than useless.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 01:01 PM (MLrvz)

250 Is anyone else's font tiny?
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I was in the pool!

Posted by: George Costanza at October 17, 2022 01:02 PM (lf83v)

251 I'm more interested in what the See Eye Eh/N Essay/Eff Bee Eye have cooked up for before next month.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at October 17, 2022 12:55 PM (QYPq3)

Midterms are state and local races, all the congressional districts and 33% of the states (or thereabouts). International level shenanigans don't matter as much on that level, that's presidential campaign territory. The FBI would have to act in tandem with the DOJ well before November and we haven't seen it yet. Too late, I think.

Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2022 01:02 PM (6eRlp)

252 You gotta hand it to 'em.

Almost without a doubt, the tube top was invented by a man.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 12:56 PM (uLr+K)

The single greatest article of women's clothing ever invented. The hell with underwear, tube tops were true fruit of the loom.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 01:02 PM (VwHCD)

253 Here it is:

Forgetting How To Be A Civilization

"...What we have now challenges a presupposition that I long held: that sexual desire was fairly fixed. I think we now see that it is more fluid than we once thought, and that heterosexuality is partly something innate, but also something that must be achieved... Taboos play a meaningful role in telling people what they should desire, and therefore guiding them to maturity.

I think back to the all-male dorm I lived in during my last two years of high school. Think of a dorm full of 100 high school juniors and seniors, in the early 1980s. Imagine the pent-up sexual desire..."

https://tinyurl.com/2jlvry47

Well worth the read if you haven't.

Posted by: Gray Man at October 17, 2022 01:02 PM (CpCeB)

254 230 Again, as has been noted, The GOP has controlled Congress for 20 of the last 28 years, just saying.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (/gpPe)

in all fairness (I've been waiting to say that) , the Deep State has controlled Congress for 50 of the last 50 years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 01:02 PM (trdmm)

255 235 Is anyone else's font tiny?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (sI15f)

I can only see this part

Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 01:02 PM (us2H3)

256 So Guzman wants to teach children that in her culture, Guinea Pigs are food?

Seems we might want to expound on that with our children.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 01:03 PM (uLr+K)

257 Growing up in the era of the tube top left no doubt I was 100% male.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 12:52 PM (VwHCD)

America. Fuck yeah.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

258 It isn't Ukraine hate. It is incessant, propaganda hate. It is an understanding that the conflict is more complicated than "Putin is Hitler!" It is frustration that people who doubt FBI/CIA/DoD/Gov/MSM narratives on everything else fall into line once they wave the flag.
Posted by: WiNO at October 17, 2022 01:01 PM (EpDzw)

100%

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:03 PM (sI15f)

259
They are still doing Gain of Function shit. Some psychopathic mad scientists, with funding from the NIH, GOF'd Omicron. They made a even more immune evading virus with an 80% mortality rate in their humanized mice.

https://tinyurl.com/2z7mm4t8

These lunatics are still doing this shit.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 17, 2022 01:03 PM (Mzdiz)

260 It isn't Ukraine hate. It is incessant, propaganda hate. It is an understanding that the conflict is more complicated than "Putin is Hitler!" It is frustration that people who doubt FBI/CIA/DoD/Gov/MSM narratives on everything else fall into line once they wave the flag.

No, it isn't. There are some of us who support aspects of the current policy and have a reasonable understanding of the history. That doesn't make us CIA toadies. You guys just drag this into every thread like a cat with a dead mouse.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 01:03 PM (eOEVl)

261 @249

>>new blood because the GOP is basically worse than useless.

I think the term you are looking for is...

The GOP is a useless pile of Dog Sh*t.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 17, 2022 01:03 PM (/gpPe)

262 229 It is very likely Nagasaki did not much affect the weird and complicated dynamics in Tokyo that led to the surrender. Those were adequately energized by Hiroshima, as they gave Lord Kido and the 2 "peace party" members of the Big Six the basis to enable Hirohito's clear preference for surrender.

Two books: Japan 1941, and Japan's Longest Day . Bookends, one about the start, the other about the end, of the war from inside the leadership circles. Both sort of jaw-dropping in their own way. Highly recommended for those with an interest in the actual history.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (OTzUX)

I'll add it to the pile, thanks!

I'll note that although Hiroshima was a shock, the Japanese still dithered and delayed. Nagasaki made them stop and surrender two days later IIRC.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:03 PM (V6f9+)

263 Are there no Democrats who hesitate to criminalize normality?

Yes, but they're the ones normalizing criminality.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (Bd6X8)

264 Putin has nukes, and the Biden and Kerry family funded biological weapons labs in Ukraine.

Whoops! Whoopsies!

Posted by: Gray Man at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (CpCeB)

265 Essentially sexuality is pretty much fixed and known, but taboos - and shame - are required to reinforce it.
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When shamelessness is a virtue, you're society is dead. You aren't shushing down the slippery slope, you are at the bottom buried in an avalanche of humanity's unrestrained Id.

So yeah, expect a scouring fire from the sky at some point.

Posted by: what is happening now is out of mortal hands at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (O5inS)

266 Two books: Japan 1941, and Japan's Longest Day . Bookends, one about the start, the other about the end, of the war from inside the leadership circles. Both sort of jaw-dropping in their own way. Highly recommended for those with an interest in the actual history.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (OTzUX)

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Either I didn't learn or I'd forgotten -- until reading something recently -- that a third nuke, if necessary, was going to be dropped on Tokyo.

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (+tqLK)

267 Is this the same wretched cunt who said she "puts parents in their place" for not cooperating at dick-chopping time?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (oINRc)

268 Even the extremely few and brief exposures to "news" about Ukraine - featuring people I know being interviewed - have left me (somehow) even more in shock at how unhinged and stupid the Beltway has become.

The 30-year time lag legacy misperceptions of so many are also striking.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (OTzUX)

269 Expanding "child abuse" and adding something new into it, and then expressing that it's important to speak up against child abuse....

is an Ignoratio Elenchi argument.

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (krQz2)

270 The single greatest article of women's clothing ever invented. The hell with underwear, tube tops were true fruit of the loom.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 01:02 PM (VwHCD)

Tanya Roberts in Tourist Trap (as featured on rifftrax). Holy crap! I stop surfing every time that show comes on the TV.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (xPJvm)

271 new blood because the GOP is basically worse than useless.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 01:01 PM (MLrvz)

They are a tool to perpetuate the facade of representative government. Until they prove otherwise - and they have had ample opportunity - this is my default position.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (yHsuS)

272 263 Are there no Democrats who hesitate to criminalize normality?

Yes, but they're the ones normalizing criminality.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (Bd6X

=========

"The Empire of Crime will rule!"
-Dr. Mabuse

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (LvTSG)

273
When Granddaughter #1 of Diogenes was still in the high chair, we were all around the dinner table. She dropped her chicken leg on the floor, looked over the side and said "Oh my Damn it!"
Every head at the table turned and looked at me.
I of course, had no idea why.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2022 12:38 PM (anj39)

It's much much better than "What the fuck" though, isn't it.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (BdMk6)

274 >>>Is anyone else's font tiny?

Posted by: Miss Issippi

My brain is. Has been for 29 years.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 17, 2022 01:05 PM (VWp7G)

275 @254

>>the Deep State has controlled Congress for 50 of the last 50 years.

I would say a cabal of elites has been in control for at least the last 4000 years.

Give or take.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 17, 2022 01:05 PM (/gpPe)

276 I'll note that although Hiroshima was a shock, the Japanese still dithered and delayed. Nagasaki made them stop and surrender two days later IIRC.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:03 PM (V6f9+)

They surrendered after they learned that Russia was moving forces east for an invasion.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 17, 2022 01:05 PM (Y5qcH)

277 Some psychopathic mad scientists, with funding from the NIH, GOF'd Omicron. They made a even more immune evading virus with an 80% mortality rate in their humanized mice.

https://tinyurl.com/2z7mm4t8

These lunatics are still doing this shit.
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Why?

Posted by: the answer was on the Georgia Guidestones at October 17, 2022 01:05 PM (X81ac)

278 aww...cute kittie sez "get this off my head!"

https://tinyurl.com/5ex7pxnu

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 01:06 PM (dCxaZ)

279
Here comes a candle
To light you to by wick
And here comes a chopper
To chop off your dick!

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2022 01:06 PM (krQz2)

280 I'll note that although Hiroshima was a shock, the Japanese still dithered and delayed. Nagasaki made them stop and surrender two days later IIRC.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:03 PM (V6f9+)

They surrendered after they learned that Russia was moving forces east for an invasion.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 17, 2022 01:05 PM (Y5qcH)

Yep, that was a nudge and half too. That also happened Aug 9th IIRC

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:06 PM (V6f9+)

281 Kevin's roomie was on the tube, pushing rank choice

Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 01:06 PM (us2H3)

282 They surrendered after they learned that Russia was moving forces east for an invasion.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 17, 2022 01:05 PM (Y5qcH)

I'll bet Danchenko told you to say that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 01:06 PM (trdmm)

283 Plus, Crenshaw's campaign paid money to his wife's firm. Wow, he really is a Democrat

https://bit.ly/3CMfaS6
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 17, 2022 12:52 PM

Wait...is that wrong?

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at October 17, 2022 01:07 PM (f1WnY)

284 "The Empire of Crime will rule!"
-Dr. Mabuse
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (LvTSG)

Mabuse should have gone into politics. Or Intelligence Service.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:07 PM (V6f9+)

285 They surrendered after they learned that Russia was moving forces east for an invasion.
__________

The Japanese also didn't know ow many more atom bombs the US had.

Every single plane flying overhead now represented a potential atom bomb attack.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 17, 2022 01:07 PM (lf83v)

286 GOPerdammerung: Signs of a Seismic National Shift and a Red Tidal Wave

This is encouraging.

https://tinyurl.com/mt6jdven

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 01:07 PM (eOEVl)

287 I think you're projecting what motivates you and other normal people. Dem pols are motivated by power, and only power. Taking that away from them is like death.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (eOEVl)

Sure they want power. But, they'll get it back and they know it. Then they'll work to move the chains further left. Standing up to them at school board meetings and winning some of those elections is good. But, that isn't enough because they will worm their way back in. Yay, we won elections doesn't cut it anymore.

Posted by: WiNO at October 17, 2022 01:07 PM (EpDzw)

288 @218 sven-Even Limbaugh had to stop with the "we're winning folks" and "liberalism is dead" or dying by the early 2000's. Until it is the day after the Presidential Election and/or law enforcement hasn't jailed MAGA candidates, DeSantis or Trump sometime after the 24' election I'm going to stay grounded in reality.
Doom? No. Frustration that my hands are tied because we are not going to pray, vote or virtue our way out of this. Yes. I'm not doomed if we fail, my kids are.

Posted by: JROD at October 17, 2022 01:08 PM (0jZnq)

289 "Wait...is that wrong?"

Bernie, you gave money to Crenshaw's wife too?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 01:08 PM (uLr+K)

290 Some psychopathic mad scientists, with funding from the NIH, GOF'd Omicron. They made a even more immune evading virus with an 80% mortality rate in their humanized mice.

*

You're never going to believe it, but the two families - Biden and Kerry - who funded the biochemical weapons labs in Ukraine?

Guess where they personally funded other biochem weapons labs? Hint: It rhymes with Mu-Han

Posted by: Gray Man at October 17, 2022 01:08 PM (CpCeB)

291 Is anyone else's font tiny?

That's kind of a personal question.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 17, 2022 01:08 PM (Bd6X8)

292 Somebody should sit these people down and explain the "millstone around the neck" passage from the Bible.
*
The problem being that these same folks think a smart-ass quip from a murderer in response to being asked by an all-knowing God where his brother was is the basis of their core theological beliefs.
Posted by: Gray Man at October 17, 2022

***
I guess I'm short bus material. I had to read this 2x before I got it. It's clear once you know what it's about, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 01:08 PM (J2vNu)

293 >>>Wait...is that wrong?
Posted by: Bernie Sanders

Not for you, Bernie. Continue.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 17, 2022 01:08 PM (VWp7G)

294 A darling of Bernie Sanders, Nancy AND Liz Warren who came to the U. S. as a single 25 year old mother of one & received degrees in public safety and social work.

Every crackpot things she's for is on the flyer when she ran for Lt. Governor, Virginia, 2020. Don't think she's going away - or moving away from anything formerly proposed - from the looks of it.

Posted by: Lola at October 17, 2022 01:08 PM (NIYa7)

295 Either I didn't learn or I'd forgotten -- until reading something recently -- that a third nuke, if necessary, was going to be dropped on Tokyo.
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (+tqLK)

I thought the remaining nukes were allocated to Operation Olympic bombardment operations.

Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2022 01:09 PM (6eRlp)

296 "Wait...is that wrong?"

Bernie, you gave money to Crenshaw's wife too?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 01:08 PM (uLr+K)

Women like to be raped. I just have to pay them for it.

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at October 17, 2022 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)

297 Sure they want power. But, they'll get it back and they know it. Then they'll work to move the chains further left. Standing up to them at school board meetings and winning some of those elections is good. But, that isn't enough because they will worm their way back in. Yay, we won elections doesn't cut it anymore.

Don't get me wrong. I'm hoping for medieval punishments, but I'll settle for expulsion from public life.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 01:09 PM (eOEVl)

298 "Rosemont Seneca Technology Partners (RSTP), the firm led by Joe Biden’s son, was a lead financial backer of Metabiota, a pandemic tracking and response firm that partnered with EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan lab, the report said."

https://tinyurl.com/2kcx5egb

Posted by: Gray Man at October 17, 2022 01:10 PM (CpCeB)

299 "Plus, Crenshaw's campaign paid money to his wife's firm. Wow, he really is a Democrat"
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 17, 2022 12:52 PM

I hope ace has a post on that. I love a good Crenshaw bashing thread. And he deserves it for doing something as corrupt as that.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 17, 2022 01:10 PM (qH6FZ)

300 That Guzman looks like she could feed a whole village in El Salvador for at least a month.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:10 PM (fWkSd)

301 when I was in high school I didn't really give a shit about my 300 lb. counselor's "advice".

"let me put it this way, Mx Beachedfinback. If you knew anything about life to counsel people on, you wouldn't weigh more than a Miata and work at a high school."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:10 PM (Ivdso)

302 299 I hope ace has a post on that. I love a good Crenshaw bashing thread. And he deserves it for doing something as corrupt as that.
Posted by: lowandslow at October 17, 2022 01:10 PM (qH6FZ)

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But you can't vote for his Democrat opponent in TX-2, because without Crenshaw we'll lose the whole House of Representatives!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:10 PM (LvTSG)

303 I'll note that although Hiroshima was a shock, the Japanese still dithered and delayed. Nagasaki made them stop and surrender two days later IIRC.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:03 PM (V6f9+)

There is a theory that Japan completed and tested an atomic bomb in Hungnam, just days before the end of the war.

Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (gmo/4)

304 "Is anyone else's font tiny? "

It's not tiny, damn you!!!

Plus he's recovering!!!

Posted by: Gisele Fetterman at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (uLr+K)

305
No, I had it wrong... it was a different wretched cunt... Amy Cannava, talking about snatching kids from their parents and farming them out to pederasts so they can get the good, solid buggering every child deserves:

"Guzman, a social worker, went public with her plans to introduce the bill a week after The Daily Wire reported that a National Association Of School Psychologists official named Amy Cannava boasted that she was working with an unnamed state delegate matching Guzman's description to craft such legislation.

'I want to see a kid in a home with food and shelter and insurance and support, but I also don't want to lose kids to death,' Cannava said, adding that 'I will not deny the fact that I have put parents in their place in my office or at school.'

Cannava is also affiliated with a group called the Pride Liberation Project that said it would pick up trans and gay teens who didn't like their parents, and 'work with other supportive adult organizations in the region to find you someone who can provide you a kind and affirming home.'"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (oINRc)

306 MAE, not exactly, and that's why I reco "Japan's Longest Day". The Big Six imperial conference was already in the works, Kido had moved the pieces into place, and Hirohito was almost certainly game, before Nagasaki news or information was being processed.

No dithering. The war party was unmoved by what (not entirely incorrectly) they perceived as just another bombing. After all, most of Japan's cities like in ruins and ashes already. The Army announced it had developed counter-measures to reduce casualties.

The bombings didn't change the positions of any of the few people who mattered (we will never truly know Hirohito's views but his statements up to that point and his tolerance of Kido's actions strongly suggest he was looking for a way out). They did provide a hook for Hirohito to pull the plug (his statement to the Big Six to accept the Potsdam Declaration, and his radio address, share a key common theme: "my people have suffered enough".

But both books are good - and the story they tell is pretty wild. Japan was plunged into war and ruined by inadequate people working within a system that was totally dysfunctional, for cultural and historic reasons.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (OTzUX)

307
I hope ace has a post on that. I love a good Crenshaw bashing thread. And he deserves it for doing something as corrupt as that.
Posted by: lowandslow at October 17, 2022 01:10 PM (qH6FZ)

He'll be blindsided by the news.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (Zz0t1)

308 243 >>I've been calling on him to invade & conquer Cuba for months now. Call it South Florida & make it the 51st state ...

Seems like half of the Cuban population already lives in Florida.
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Only FL can clean up Cuba. They've got all that cocaine money to pull it off.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (KY22T)

309 That Guzman looks like she could feed a whole village in El Salvador for at least a month.
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Right?

Posted by: Sally Struthers at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (lf83v)

310 Somebody should sit these people down and explain the "millstone around the neck" passage from the Bible.
*
The problem being that these same folks think a smart-ass quip from a murderer in response to being asked by an all-knowing God where his brother was is the basis of their core theological beliefs.
***
I guess I'm short bus material. I had to read this 2x before I got it. It's clear once you know what it's about, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

*

Obama literally based a federal program on it:

obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/
my-brothers-keeper

Posted by: Gray Man at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (CpCeB)

311 300 That Guzman looks like she could feed a whole village in El Salvador for at least a month.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:10 PM (fWkSd)

Or at least a couple hungry tigers.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (V6f9+)

312 The single greatest article of women's clothing ever invented. The hell with underwear, tube tops were true fruit of the loom.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Tube tops, bell bottom/hip huggers.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (NlFlr)

313 207 Someday DeSantis is going to have to speak on foreign policy. He can't avoid it forever if he wants to be Pres someday.
Posted by: lowandslow at October 17, 2022 12:54 PM (qH6FZ)

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I don’t think anyone makes their decision based on that anymore. Maybe in the Cold War era or immediately post 9/11. But now? Nobody cares.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (A+qp1)

314 democrat policy: not so popular once people actually know about it.

Posted by: democrats, Kidnapping, Raping and Mutilating the Children TheyCannot Kill Since 1973! at October 17, 2022 01:12 PM (4yAWv)

315 291 Is anyone else's font tiny?

It was in the pool !!!!

Posted by: Rance Stoddard at October 17, 2022 01:12 PM (2cfUo)

316 There is a theory that Japan completed and tested an atomic bomb in Hungnam, just days before the end of the war.

There's also a theory that subterranean lizard people burned the Reichstag.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 01:12 PM (eOEVl)

317 There is a theory that Japan completed and tested an atomic bomb in Hungnam, just days before the end of the war.

Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (gmo/4)

Didn't Germany send all or a bunch of its nuke material, tech, and personnel to Japan, because they were getting BTFO? I seem to recall seeing that somewhere.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 01:12 PM (yHsuS)

318 I've been calling on him to invade & conquer Cuba for months now. Call it South Florida & make it the 51st state ...

Hey, what do you know, we have a plan for that! It almost worked once!

- The CIA. Top. Men.

Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 01:13 PM (gmo/4)

319 Is anyone else's font tiny?
Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 12:58 PM (sI15f)

***

Bob Doles Font is anything BUT tiny. Bob Dole says that you should SEE Bob Doles Font to verify

Posted by: Bob Dole at October 17, 2022 01:13 PM (flINI)

320 I hope ace has a post on that. I love a good Crenshaw bashing thread. And he deserves it for doing something as corrupt as that.
Posted by: lowandslow at October 17, 2022 01:10 PM (qH6FZ)

He'll be blindsided by the news.
Posted by: Sponge

Crenshaw will never see it coming.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:13 PM (NlFlr)

321 Dia de los gordas

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at October 17, 2022 01:13 PM (x/Pak)

322 the "we're winning folks" and "liberalism is dead" or dying by the early 2000's. Until it is the day after the Presidential Election and/or law enforcement hasn't jailed MAGA candidates, DeSantis or Trump sometime after the 24' election I'm g

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1. this tranny law is probably intended to be like the FACE(?) law the fed devils are using to arrest anyone pro-life.

2. no guarantee the fed pigs don't arrest every GOP candidate in 2 weeks.

3. Membaberries trump saying to Hillary that "you'd be in jail," well...guess what folks, nearly every person in Trump's campaign is in jail or spent $100K staying out of it. The deep state isn't playing.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 01:13 PM (MLrvz)

323
Some psychopathic mad scientists, with funding from the NIH, GOF'd Omicron. They made a even more immune evading virus with an 80% mortality rate in their humanized mice.

When one person dies, it's a tragedy. When six billion die, it's a statistic.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 01:13 PM (y3pKJ)

324 This pig was born in Lima Peru.

Posted by: mr tmz at October 17, 2022 01:13 PM (rJ48h)

325 Is anyone else's font tiny?
Posted by: Miss Issippi

THE WATER WAS COLD!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:13 PM (NlFlr)

326 But both books are good - and the story they tell is pretty wild. Japan was plunged into war and ruined by inadequate people working within a system that was totally dysfunctional, for cultural and historic reasons.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (OTzUX)

They probably would have gotten away with it if they hadn't bombed Pearl and allied with Germany. They'd probably still be running East Asia.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 17, 2022 01:13 PM (Y5qcH)

327 101 good for the VA delegation - Rs - make them vote on it. love it!

don't let them ooze out of this
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 17, 2022 12:37 PM (w0NJk)

I'm actually interested in what Ds are gonna do - vote for a unanimous fail, let the NoVa side vote yes and the rest of Ds vote no, or cut a (secret) deal to vote for an alternate bill Repubs want passed so they don't have to ever vote on this bill...

Either way, win/win/win...VA shows you can have an R party in the wilderness for a few years, and bring it back, and bring it back hard...

Posted by: Nova local at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (exHjb)

328 There's an amusing graphic going around purporting to show how many words each individual supreme court justice said in the discussion and decision of their first case upon taking office.

The most? BY a huge margin, Biden's latest affirmative action hire. The least? Clarence Thomas. All of the female justices had the most to say.

The whole concept of "you're the rookie, keep your thoughts to a minimum until you get into the job a bit more" eluded them entirely.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (Ivdso)

329 There's also a theory that subterranean lizard people burned the Reichstag.
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This is true.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (KY22T)

330 Either I didn't learn or I'd forgotten -- until reading something recently -- that a third nuke, if necessary, was going to be dropped on Tokyo.
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022
*
I thought the remaining nukes were allocated to Operation Olympic bombardment operations.
Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2022

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I thought the first 2 were the only ones we had, and a third one would have taken a little time to put together?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (J2vNu)

331 >>Rosemont Seneca Technology Partners (RSTP), the firm led by Joe Biden’s son, was a lead financial backer of Metabiota, a pandemic tracking and response firm that partnered with EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan lab, the report said."

Rosemont was also involved with he bio labs in Ukraine and Kazakhstan among others.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (ZLI7S)

332 There is a theory that Japan completed and tested an atomic bomb in Hungnam, just days before the end of the war.

Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 01:11 PM (gmo/4)

I've never heard about a Japanese atomic program. I'd like to read about it if you have more books to recommend to my pile.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (V6f9+)

333 @325

>>THE WATER WAS COLD!

DOESN'T SHE KNOW ABOUT SHRINKAGE!!!???

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (/gpPe)

334 What's the meme?

1. It's not happening
2. Celebrate that it's happening or you're a bigot!

Posted by: pookysgirl, late for lunch at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (XKZwp)

335 The most? BY a huge margin, Biden's latest affirmative action hire. The least? Clarence Thomas. All of the female justices had the most to say.
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Women and hens can cluck all day.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (KY22T)

336 This starts with gender "affirmation." It ends with prosecuting parents for daring to expose children to unapproved political views. We have seen this movie before, repeated over and over.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (iFTx/)

337 Y'all are killing me with your responses to the tiny font comment LOL...turns out I changed my desktop to view to 80% somehow... It's usually at 125 on the screen that I keep AoS on.

Feeling my age today.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:15 PM (sI15f)

338 When shamelessness is a virtue, you're society is dead. You aren't shushing down the slippery slope, you are at the bottom buried in an avalanche of humanity's unrestrained Id.

So yeah, expect a scouring fire from the sky at some point.
Posted by: what is happening now is out of mortal hands at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (O5inS)
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While shame and public outrage form a type of blunt instrument with a possibly wide casualty radius, just-as-effective fine instruments do not automatically spring into existence simply because the more intuitive instrument has bad side effects.

So even while the Holy Spirit was refining the heart to be more attuned to the misfortune of blunt instruments (like the Law itself), all through this process, order was still kept by harsher secular law.

Posted by: Axeman at October 17, 2022 01:15 PM (krQz2)

339 He'll be blindsided by the news.

Crenshaw will never see it coming.

He turned a blind eye to the law

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:15 PM (Ivdso)

340 Cuba might need to go completely feral for 40or 50 years before it's ready to be "saved".

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 01:15 PM (trdmm)

341 Rosemont Seneca Technology Partners (RSTP), the firm led by Joe Biden’s son, was a lead financial backer of Metabiota, a pandemic tracking and response firm that partnered with EcoHealth Alliance and the Wuhan lab, the report said."

Rosemont was also involved with he bio labs in Ukraine and Kazakhstan among others.
Posted by: JackStraw

*

Yep.

But Putin has nukes something something.

Posted by: Gray Man at October 17, 2022 01:15 PM (CpCeB)

342 "But both books are good - and the story they tell is pretty wild. ~~Japan~~ Americawas plunged into war and ruined by inadequate people working within a system that was totally dysfunctional, for cultural and historic reasons."

I present the Bidet administration perfectly defined.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (fWkSd)

343 Elizabeth Guzman, a Stunning and Brave Latinx
.......

is she stronk wyymynz too?

Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (v0R5T)

344 There's also a theory that subterranean lizard people burned the Reichstag.

"Liessss!!"
--Lizard People

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (Ivdso)

345 She immigrated here from Peru and nowhere does it say she became a citizen.

Posted by: cjhmhch at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (PoYG7)

346 I have asked my husband to prove the cold water shrinkage thing but he refuses.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (sI15f)

347 >>>when I was in high school I didn't really give a shit about my 300 lb. counselor's "advice".

>When I was in HS, absolutely one of our counselors was gay. Seemed like a nice guy, harmless and maybe a groomer, but he never fucked with any of us.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (z+OQR)

348 Does this font make my ass look big?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 17, 2022 01:17 PM (Y5qcH)

349 Eh by the time they hit scotus nobody is a rookie.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:17 PM (A+qp1)

350 330
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I thought the first 2 were the only ones we had, and a third one would have taken a little time to put together?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (J2vNu)

Target lists are not necessarily dependent on available munitions.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 17, 2022 01:17 PM (8C7+r)

351 345 She immigrated here from Peru and nowhere does it say she became a citizen.
Posted by: cjhmhch at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (PoYG7)

South America, German name, hmmmm.....

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 17, 2022 01:17 PM (trdmm)

352 344 There's also a theory that subterranean lizard people burned the Reichstag.

"Liessss!!"
--Lizard People
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (Ivdso)

=========

"The lizard people are better than you! And they're lesbians!"
-Doctor Who

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:17 PM (LvTSG)

353 Another one who must look up to see bottom.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 17, 2022 01:17 PM (KATBx)

354 A third bomb, a Fatman, was promised for availability by October. After that, a monthly production delivery was promised (3 per month?). Don't recall what the target list would have been. Probably Kokura again ("the luckiest city in Japan", second mission had it as the primary, but had to divert to the secondary, Nagasaki, after smoke prevented the required visual aiming).

Tokyo I don't think would ever have been on the list, for 2 reasons. Nobody left to negotiate with, and importantly to impose surrender on Japanese forces strung across east Asian and the western Pacific (a big concern up until it happened). And a desire to avoid cultural destruction that would tremendously alienate/radicalize a post-surrender populace (reason Kyoto was removed from all target lists).

Marshall and Army planners sought 3 nukes per Olympic landing area, so 9 total. Was never a choice "between" invasion or nukes. Both courses involved nukes. And that was just Olympic. Coronet in March '46 may well have called for more nukes to support landings.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 01:17 PM (OTzUX)

355 "let me put it this way, Mx Beachedfinback. If you knew anything about life to counsel people on, you wouldn't weigh more than a Miata and work at a high school."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022

***
I heard this in Buffy Summers's voice.

It would work well for Xander Harris too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 01:17 PM (J2vNu)

356 >>Yep.

>>But Putin has nukes something something.

And today the head of Gazprom said the gas that was going to Nord Stream 2 can be shipped to Turkey instead.

Another brilliant coup by our foreign policy experts.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (ZLI7S)

357 Deport her ass.

Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (v0R5T)

358 My theory was I’m Not going to take career advice from someone working as a guidance counselor.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (A+qp1)

359 Either I didn't learn or I'd forgotten -- until reading something recently -- that a third nuke, if necessary, was going to be dropped on Tokyo.
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (+tqLK)

I thought the remaining nukes were allocated to Operation Olympic bombardment operations.
Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2022 01:09 PM (6eRlp)

Yeah, they would never nuke Tokyo and take the chance of killing the emperor. The US wanted an intact Japanese gov't to surrender. They didn't want a collection of warlords and guerillas to manage.

Posted by: WiNO at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (EpDzw)

360 I thought the first 2 were the only ones we had, and a third one would have taken a little time to put together?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM (J2vNu)

A 3rd was in production for middle August delivery, a 4th was coming in Sept.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (V6f9+)

361 "I don’t think anyone makes their decision based on that anymore. Maybe in the Cold War era or immediately post 9/11. But now? Nobody cares."

Run on funding the U.S. vs. Russia proxy war for the good of global democracy and see how far you get in the GOP nomination process.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (qH6FZ)

362 This is the way

Posted by: RUReadingthis at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (aQ25I)

363 This starts with gender "affirmation."

I have no issues with gender affirmation.

Dude, you're a guy. Fuck off.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (NlFlr)

364 re: The Japanese atomic bomb.

IIRC History channel had an episode on it. Can't recall if they actually had one that worked.

But two atomic bombings and the Soviets pouncing on an opportunity to seize territory really put a cap on the sh1t sandwich Japan made for itself.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (fWkSd)

365
I have asked my husband to prove the cold water shrinkage thing but he refuses.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (sI15f)

You can do your own experiment. Go out on a cold day in a t-shirt. Then look where all the dudes are looking. Same phenomenon.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (oINRc)

366 Crenshaw is acting like a villain who poked out his good eye, so the bad eye could take over.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (sI15f)

367 these brussels sprouts have all the earmarks of something edible

Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (us2H3)

368 Eh by the time they hit scotus nobody is a rookie.

That's like saying the minor leagues means nobody's a rookie when they hit the MLB. Know your place, learn the job, you're starting at the bottom of the ladder again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:19 PM (Ivdso)

369 346 I have asked my husband to prove the cold water shrinkage thing but he refuses.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (sI15f)

Seems like something you could verify yourself, given the right circumstances.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 17, 2022 01:19 PM (8C7+r)

370
You can do your own experiment. Go out on a cold day in a t-shirt. Then look where all the dudes are looking. Same phenomenon.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (oINRc)

Geez. It's awfully nippily out here.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:20 PM (Zz0t1)

371 Jap nuke program was a nothing-burger, far less advanced than even the German one, which had no prospect of success.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 01:20 PM (OTzUX)

372 >>these brussels sprouts have all the earmarks of something edible

It's a trick.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 01:20 PM (ZLI7S)

373 365
I have asked my husband to prove the cold water shrinkage thing but he refuses.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (sI15f)

You can do your own experiment. Go out on a cold day in a t-shirt. Then look where all the dudes are looking. Same phenomenon.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (oINRc)

Got it. So a guy's party hat turns inward instead of outward? I was thinking it hurt or something.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:20 PM (sI15f)

374 Didn't Germany send all or a bunch of its nuke material, tech, and personnel to Japan, because they were getting BTFO? I seem to recall seeing that somewhere.

A U-boat containing heavy water and German scientist was intercepted 500 miles off the US east coast, evidently that's where they were headed.

source: Operation Paperclip by Annie Jacobsen

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 01:21 PM (dCxaZ)

375 336 This starts with gender "affirmation." It ends with prosecuting parents for daring to expose children to unapproved political views. We have seen this movie before, repeated over and over.
__________

You mean where some blue-checked journalist threatens to turn a parent over to CPS for announcing she was teaching her kid about Columbus? Yes, that happened last week.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 17, 2022 01:21 PM (fs1hN)

376 Harbor Freight is having a sale!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 01:21 PM (uLr+K)

377 359 Either I didn't learn or I'd forgotten -- until reading something recently -- that a third nuke, if necessary, was going to be dropped on Tokyo.
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (+tqLK)

I thought the remaining nukes were allocated to Operation Olympic bombardment operations.
Posted by: mrp at October 17, 2022 01:09 PM (6eRlp)

Yeah, they would never nuke Tokyo and take the chance of killing the emperor. The US wanted an intact Japanese gov't to surrender. They didn't want a collection of warlords and guerillas to manage.
Posted by: WiNO at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (EpDzw)

Are you saying decapitation strikes don't work, or not in that instance?

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 17, 2022 01:21 PM (8C7+r)

378
Run on funding the U.S. vs. Russia proxy war for the good of global democracy and see how far you get in the GOP nomination process.
Posted by: lowandslow at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (qH6FZ)

True.

I meant more like don’t say anything about foreign policy and nobody will care. Or just give general platitude like we need to make the world safe and other BS.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:21 PM (A+qp1)

379 Jap nuke program was a nothing-burger, far less advanced than even the German one, which had no prospect of success.

Well the only realistic place they could have gotten the info and idea from was the Germans, who certainly would not have given the Japanese the power to build actual, functioning nukes. Eventually the Reich was going to have to take them out, too, if everything had gone to plan.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:21 PM (Ivdso)

380 Is anyone else's font tiny?
Posted by: Miss Issippi

I beg your pardon !

Posted by: JT at October 17, 2022 01:21 PM (T4tVD)

381
Got it. So a guy's party hat turns inward instead of outward? I was thinking it hurt or something.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:20 PM (sI15f)

It's called 'turtling.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)

382 Army plans were to use the atomic bombs to isolate the battlefield for the invasion of Japan.

Using them for Coronet would have been dicey since talking about invading the plain upon which Tokyo is located.

Of course did anyone think of loading B-29s with napalm?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:22 PM (fWkSd)

383 I sort-of get the white liberal guilt complex about slavery, bringing us BLM and before that almost 60 years of failed LBJ Great Society programs. What white liberal guilt complexes have the Progressive Propagandists been playing to with gays, gay marriage, LGBTQ+, transsexualism, and next, pedophilia?

Posted by: Gref at October 17, 2022 01:22 PM (AMIL/)

384 Citizen through marriage? Same as Mrs. Fetterman?

Posted by: Lola at October 17, 2022 01:22 PM (NIYa7)

385 @322 sockmaster-I guess some would be surprised to see Trump or any MAGA candidates if they woke up tomorrow arrested. Wouldn't surprise me in the least, in fact I'm kind of expecting it. The left does let it be known what their intentions are. All we can do is play along for now and wait n see.

Posted by: JROD at October 17, 2022 01:22 PM (0jZnq)

386 So a guy's party hat turns inward instead of outward? I was thinking it hurt or something.

Its uncomfortable to put your body into cold water in general, but it causes everything to contract.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:22 PM (Ivdso)

387
>When I was in HS, absolutely one of our counselors was gay. Seemed like a nice guy, harmless and maybe a groomer, but he never fucked with any of us.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM

In Pennsylvania, Catholic schools get 'resource' people paid for by the state. I knew of one, a counselor. After five minutes of listening to him I knew he was gay. But he was married to woman.

He died of AIDS. He kept working in that school for a number of years despite his affliction.

All of the 'resource' people were worthless.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 01:22 PM (y3pKJ)

388 I have taken the black pill. Dominion will change every vote in every machine. Any GOPer that gets into power will sell us out for a bag of magic beans and a half-drunk bottle of terrible scotch. Any GOPer that we like has actually been compromised already and is just being used to keep us on the plantation.

There is no hope.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

Atta boy, I feel the same way. Republicans refuse to investigate, so we are not going to wipe the floor with these creeps in November.

Posted by: clutch at October 17, 2022 01:22 PM (9UmRs)

389 All the German scientists moved to the US and worked at NASA. One of the “yeah we will not publicize it” parts of post WW2 American history.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (A+qp1)

390 Stunning and Brave Latinx Elizabeth Guzman claimed her clear words which cannot be mischaracterized
________

Also sexist. Don't forget that what women believe words mean isn't what we toxic men believe. And of course, the problem isn't just the criticism, but the way we said it.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (TgBWG)

391 This is just cruel.

https://tinyurl.com/359dfekd

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (uLr+K)

392 Seems like something you could verify yourself, given the right circumstances.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 17, 2022 01:19 PM (8C7+r

I'm probably going to hurt myself doing this, but I'm going to invite him to take a cold shower with me and see what happens. LOL

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (sI15f)

393 these brussels sprouts have all the earmarks of something edible
Posted by: REDACTED at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (us2H3)
........

Had some crappy Chinese takeout last night. Soggy beef with broccoli and stale fortune cookies. Yuck.

Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (v0R5T)

394 Yeah, they would never nuke Tokyo and take the chance of killing the emperor. The US wanted an intact Japanese gov't to surrender. They didn't want a collection of warlords and guerillas to manage.
Posted by: WiNO

There was no guarantee that it wouldn't devolve to that if the emperor was seen to be beaten.

The second DC is seen to be totally neutered, expect regional "super powers" to rise up.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (NlFlr)

395 All the German scientists moved to the US and worked at NASA.

Some of them ended up in the Soviet Union as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (Ivdso)

396 Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (A+qp1)

no, not ALL the scientists. Some went to the Soviet.

and they didn't all work for NASA ffs

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 01:24 PM (dCxaZ)

397 They are a tool to perpetuate the facade of representative government. Until they prove otherwise - and they have had ample opportunity - this is my default position.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (yHsuS)

-------------

My theory is they are both State run operations. The "first past the post makes a two party system inevitable" is a BS argument as there is no logical or mathematical argument that can be made for that to be so, it's just stated as fact.

I think most likely the two party system exists to allow the facade of representative government and is also easiest for the State to control.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 17, 2022 01:24 PM (cMXNt)

398 Bong hit

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 17, 2022 01:24 PM (cMXNt)

399 Japan was always receiving technology from Germany and in return the U-boats brought back critical war materials the Germans needed.

Japan's Hien 'Tony' initially used a DB-601 engine. Japan's jet and rocket fighters were based on German technology.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:25 PM (fWkSd)

400 I thought the first 2 were the only ones we had, and a third one would have taken a little time to put together?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 01:14 PM

There was a third core that was (or was about to be ) shipped when Japan surrendered. IIRC, a fourth would have taken a few months.

Posted by: Chuck C at October 17, 2022 01:25 PM (xttsV)

401 389 All the German scientists moved to the US and worked at NASA. One of the “yeah we will not publicize it” parts of post WW2 American history.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (A+qp1)

Werner Van Braun was the head of engineering at NASA and made movies about it with Disney. That was pretty public.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 17, 2022 01:25 PM (Y5qcH)

402 This is just cruel.

They didn't even put much effort into the photoshop.

However, savory ice cream can be good, there's a recipe for parmesan cheese ice cream I would love to try.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:25 PM (Ivdso)

403 Got it. So a guy's party hat turns inward instead of outward? I was thinking it hurt or something.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:20 PM (sI15f)

It's called 'turtling.'
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)
***

If you kiss it, it'll make it better.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 17, 2022 01:26 PM (anj39)

404 All of the 'resource' people were worthless.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 01:22 PM

Ah, yes, the "paraprofessionals" who seem to outnumber the teachers.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 17, 2022 01:26 PM (f1WnY)

405 You guys are awesome! I really needed the laughs today. Makes the day a lot more bearable.

Thank y'all so much!

Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:26 PM (sI15f)

406 All the German scientists moved to the US and worked at NASA.

Walk into NASA sometime and yell Heil Hitler! Whoop! They all jump up.

- Malory Archer

Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 01:26 PM (gmo/4)

407 You sure about the production schedule MAE?

The Nagasaki mission was a giant CF that just barely came off.

Sweeney got out of Bock's Car and went to talk with Tibbetts on the deck, after his engineer reported they couldn't access their reserve fuel tank (which made the mission a close-run thing, logistically). Tibbetts ordered them to proceed.

There was strategery behind this. We wanted the Japanese to believe that we had plenty of these things, and they could have as many as they wanted dropped on them. The quick 1-2 punch was intended to convey this. Weather was a second concern, as a big system was moving in - and the nuke missions were strictly visual-bombing*.

Don't believe serial production was promised till October.

* I think there's a decent chance the bomb commander and bombardier for Nagasaki fibbed a bit when they claimed they had visual through a break in the clouds - Sweeney had made it clear they were getting rid of the bomb, and as it was they landed on fumes at their bingo airfield in Okinawa

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 01:26 PM (OTzUX)

408 I have. A group of old work peeps. We worked together 20ish years ago and we all moved on to different places over the years it still are friends as a group. If that makes sense.

Anyway almost the entire group is conservative. And as far as politics go, they’re all still in 2003 mode. Lower taxes is always good. Winning the senate will mean great things. Maybe if we just do a little gun control it will make the left happy and they will go away. Trump sure is divide isn’t he?

I don’t get into it because what’s the point. And we don’t do politics too often so whatever. But it’s a small look into the non political junkie conservative outlook.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:27 PM (A+qp1)

409 Either I didn't learn or I'd forgotten -- until reading something recently -- that a third nuke, if necessary, was going to be dropped on Tokyo.

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 17, 2022 01:04 PM (+tqLK)

The next bomb wouldn't be available for about a month after Nagasaki, using U235. Production was definitely ramping up, but the available fissile supplies were used up.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 17, 2022 01:27 PM (JOtiF)

410 At the end of the war in Germany, everyone was scooping up whatever technology and brain trusts they could.

French, British, American, Soviet. All had their versions of Operation Lusty and Operation Paperclip.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:28 PM (fWkSd)

411 Yeah, they would never nuke Tokyo and take the chance of killing the emperor. The US wanted an intact Japanese gov't to surrender. They didn't want a collection of warlords and guerillas to manage.
Posted by: WiNO at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (EpDzw)

I don't know if the US knew it at the time, but the Emperor had to smuggle his surrender message out because his own generals were refusing to surrender (and possibly considering his assassination).

Posted by: cold-fingered pookysgirl at October 17, 2022 01:28 PM (XKZwp)

412 392 Seems like something you could verify yourself, given the right circumstances.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 17, 2022 01:19 PM (8C7+r

I'm probably going to hurt myself doing this, but I'm going to invite him to take a cold shower with me and see what happens. LOL
Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (sI15f)

This might be kinda iffy, but stealthy...

If you go swimming in lakes, etc, first swim of next year.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 17, 2022 01:28 PM (8C7+r)

413 "I'm going to make my constituents criminals!"

"I'm going to change my mind, because it turns out trying to criminalize my constituents means I'll be out of work."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 17, 2022 01:28 PM (5pTK/)

414 The egg rolls weren't crispy, either.

Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 01:29 PM (v0R5T)

415
OK, I don't have time to poke around any further, but if you need to be put in your place as a meddlesome parent who intrudes in a school's dominion over your children, Amy Cannava apparently works for Montgomery County (VA) schools, and has served as the co-President of its School Psychiatrists' Association in the recent past (2019-2020), and currently works on its Project THRIVE initiative for LGBTQ+ students.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 01:29 PM (oINRc)

416 The thing is, almost none of those scientists were philosophically Nazi they were just members of the party to survive and get work. They were given all the toys they ever wanted and allowed to experiment and come up with wonderful new things. I mean, a lot of it ended up as weapons (Werner Von Braun was famously upset at this, he just wanted to make a rocket to get into space) but their country was a war, not exactly shocking.

None of their tech was used to torture Jews or anything like that, it was weapons for soldiers to use against soldiers, in theory at least. I am guessing it was pretty easy for them to rationalize the buzz bombs hitting civilians, regular bombing wasn't that much more accurate anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:29 PM (Ivdso)

417 All the German scientists moved to the US and worked at NASA. One of the “yeah we will not publicize it” parts of post WW2 American history.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM

"Ja! No one ever heard about me. They kept me hidden away"
-Wernher von Braun, director of the Marshall Space Flight Center

Posted by: Chuck C at October 17, 2022 01:29 PM (xttsV)

418 >>>It's called 'turtling.'

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

>Think of Mitch McConnell without the spectacles.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 17, 2022 01:30 PM (z+OQR)

419 She immigrated here from Peru and nowhere does it say she became a citizen.

Posted by: cjhmhch at October 17, 2022 01:16 PM (PoYG7)

That's kind of a tell.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 01:30 PM (yHsuS)

420
It's not a black pill. It's a white pill. It's a "none of this matters. Quit wasting your time and energy and live your life" pill.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 01:31 PM (oINRc)

421 The egg rolls weren't crispy, either.

Chinese places seem to suffer generationally. When dad sets up shop and goes to cook there, the food is magnificent. Then dad gets too old or dies and the next generation hits the phone for Cisco frozen food and throws it in the microwave so they can get back to their smart phone,

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:31 PM (Ivdso)

422 Catturd ™
@catturd2

Dear liberals - hope you enjoy 2023.

Owners ...

Twitter - Elon Musk
Truth - President Trump
Parler - Ye
I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 17, 2022 01:31 PM (NpAcC)

423 Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 01:31 PM (ZLI7S)

424 Lizzy Guzman ate some snacks,
gave a weiner whacky-wacks.
When we see what she be do,
rub her haid in dog poopoo.

The,
Bard

Posted by: Marooned at October 17, 2022 01:31 PM (w6hJ9)

425 The ones who went to the USSR didn't have a choice. The ones who came here couldn’t leave Germany fast enough. So what if they were Nazis and used slave labor as part of their work? Boys will be boys. The US govt looked the other way.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:32 PM (A+qp1)

426 Concept of nuclear explosives was known to Japanese scientists, yes Germans were key in getting to that point but it was known throughout the physics community world-wide.

Ensuring orderly surrender of Japanese forces was a very very big concern - reasonably so - and affected lots of decisions. It was the primary worry once Potsdam had been accepted.

And it wasn't just a worry on the Allied side. Hirohito himself offered to tour major deployment areas and deliver the surrender order personally. This was partly a rejoinder to counter some Army protests that the forces would never accept surrender, but it was clearly also a serious proposal.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 01:32 PM (OTzUX)

427 French, British, American, Soviet. All had their versions of Operation Lusty and Operation Paperclip.
______________

L'operation Lusty? Oui, je me le souviens. C'etait magnifique! Les femmes etaient, comme vous disez, le "chef's kiss"!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 17, 2022 01:32 PM (fs1hN)

428 You sure about the production schedule MAE?
...
Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 01:26 PM (OTzUX)

We're going off my memory so...iffy. But if I remember correctly, bomb 3 was almost done, bomb 4 was slated for the month after and production was ramping up. Like you say, the intent was to give the Japs the impression that we could nuke a city a week until capitulation, Truman made a speech to that affect on the 8th or 9th, I think.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:32 PM (V6f9+)

429 This weekend I took an Amtrak to visit my son at college. Great trip and time extremely well spent. But one of those telling moments that (part of) the world has gone totally bonkers on the train platform on the way out.

Got into a conversation with a very nice, older gentleman going to an out of town wedding. Train was late. He looked up the arrival time on the Amtrak app, which still listed it as "on time." His comment: "They apparently don't recognize reality, just like Trump! Ha ha..."

Not a bitter leftist at all (on the face of it). But some of these BlueCity oldsters who listen to NPR and read The NY Times are just so locked into their TDS, and so bubbled in that they just assume anyone not wearing a Klan hood must agree that it's truly scary.

Posted by: Zek at October 17, 2022 01:32 PM (fsV7e)

430 When I heard that Kanye was looking at buying Parler I was surprised. I didn't know Parler was even still around.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:32 PM (Ivdso)

431 That's OK, I'll just sit here and talk to myself.

Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 01:32 PM (v0R5T)

432 It's not a black pill. It's a white pill. It's a "none of this matters. Quit wasting your time and energy and live your life" pill.

Eh, it's healthy to take both. I'm going with a paisley pill.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 01:33 PM (eOEVl)

433 When I heard that Kanye was looking at buying Parler I was surprised. I didn't know Parler was even still around.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:32 PM (Ivdso)

I always figured it was doomed to fail since it's spelled strange and parlor dot com is porn.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:34 PM (Zz0t1)

434 Is anyone else's font tiny?
Posted by: Miss Issippi

Our eyes are up here, Missy!

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 01:34 PM (yHsuS)

435 The thing is, almost none of those scientists were philosophically Nazi they were just members of the party to survive and get work.

—

Amazing how in all of Germany there were like 12 actual Nazis. I mean tht is what must have been the case since nobody today had any family members who were Nazis, none of the scientists were Nazis. Kinda like how every Frenchman was in the Resistance but in reverse.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:34 PM (A+qp1)

436 Pedophilia without legal constraint is in the works.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 17, 2022 12:41 PM (Uk/+L)

Allow me to preface my remarks by saying that I do not advocate violence towards anyone.

If your prophecy comes to pass, there will be mass killings everywhere.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 01:34 PM (zhLdt)

437 401 389 All the German scientists moved to the US and worked at NASA. One of the “yeah we will not publicize it” parts of post WW2 American history.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (A+qp1)

Werner Van Braun was the head of engineering at NASA and made movies about it with Disney. That was pretty public.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 17, 2022 01:25 PM (Y5qcH)

All of them except those captured by the Soviets. The first post-war Soviet large experimental rockets seemed to closely resemble V-2's. Purely coincidence, of course. (An older, high-level Russian rocket company executive told me that with a straight face in 1994. He still had a huge photo of Lenin behind his desk.)

Posted by: Gref at October 17, 2022 01:34 PM (AMIL/)

438 The US govt looked the other way.

The War Dept. and many at State were very opposed to the German scientists coming here. And some of the Germans who went to the Soviets chose to go.

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 01:35 PM (dCxaZ)

439 Operation Paperclip: German scientists moved to the US

Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 01:35 PM (RHGPo)

440 From the paperback edition of Enola Gay pg 330 - 331.

Sweeney decided to go ahead with mission before take off when it was found one wing tank would not feed. This cost him 600 gallons of fuel.

He had to wait 40 minutes at the rendezvous point for second observer plane to appear. It never did so he pressed on to Kokura.

After three runs over the AP in Kokura the weather never cleared for a visual bombing. So the plane went to Nagasaki.

Nagasaki was also socked in until Sweeney's bombardier spotted a break in the clouds. The bomb landed wide of target and the B-29 was forced to land on Okinawa with almost no fuel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (fWkSd)

441 >>>It's called 'turtling.'
-----
>Think of Mitch McConnell without the spectacles.

Dude. That was so unnecessary.

Posted by: A. Turtle at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (nfrXX)

442 In theory, Russia's huge arsenal of howitzers and multiple-launch rocket systems should be able to destroy HIMARS by using counter-battery radar to track the trajectory of the rockets it fires back to their launch point.

Ah, but those clever Americans have a trick, according to Avia's unsigned blog post: They designed HIMARS so its rockets would change trajectory and fool counter-battery radars.

"This can be seen from the missile's flight path, which, in fact, shifts the coordinates set by counterbattery means of combat by hundreds of meters, making it impossible to deliver accurate strikes," the post says, pointing to videos of Ukraine firing the rockets.

Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (RHGPo)

443 I think most likely the two party system exists to allow the facade of representative government and is also easiest for the State to control. Posted by: MAGA_Ken
------------------
Look up Duverget's Law. If you have first past the post, you will get a two major party system because people hate wasted votes. You can also read Anthony Downs on the subject. You have proportional representation, you will get 3 plus parties depending on whether there is a cutoff or not. Germany's for example at least used to be 5 percent or below were wasted votes. At the other extreme is Brazil and Israel where sometimes a party is just one candidate or so. You used ranked choice voting, then Cordocet's Theorem predicts that political minority candidates will win more frequently that do not reflect the majority of voters political preferences due to cycling issues. Every single system allows for backstabbing, double dealing, and lying.

Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (CXr4y)

444 I like the speaker's style: no, no, trust me, your lunatic proposal is definitely coming to the floor for a vote.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (ppBhU)

445 Operation Paperclip was bad enough. The way the US gobbled up the Japanese bio weapon and medical torture fetishists really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Pissed off the Japanese too, that the real monsters of WW2 were allowed to get off and only the low rankers got serious prison time.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (V6f9+)

446 Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 01:32 PM (v0R5T)

I think CRT replied to you

Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (dCxaZ)

447 Believe all the follow-ons to Hiroshima were going to be Fatman models, so plutonium not U235.

Hirohito's surrender decision was complied with by the Army and Navy leadership (Army minister committed suicide after being cagey about supporting an abortive coup by young officers who tried but failed to seize the palace and Kido and the radio recording).

There were efforts to prevent the broadcast of the surrender announcement, which failed, but generally surrender orders were complied with. Some small units, such as stragglers in the hills of Saipan, required direct contact and negotiation.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (OTzUX)

448
Geez. It's awfully nippily out here.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:20 PM (Zz0t1

Which reminds me. Christmas season is almost here again. The closer I get to 29, the faster time passes.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (BdMk6)

449 This is just cruel.

https://tinyurl.com/359dfekd
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 01:23 PM (uLr+K)
******
I guess scrapple is a Pennsylvania thing. The only thing worse would be Spam ice cream.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (NpAcC)

450 I like the speaker's style: no, no, trust me, your lunatic proposal is definitely coming to the floor for a vote.

I mean, yeah, I like it in the sense that you force them to defend it and argue it, and see what other loons support it, but at the same time, nothing ever comes of this kind of thing. Its not like they make a movie about it or any news covers it

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:37 PM (Ivdso)

451 That's OK, I'll just sit here and talk to myself.
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 01:32 PM

As long as you're not playing, that should be ok.

Posted by: Jeffrey T. at October 17, 2022 01:37 PM (a3Q+t)

452 "Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

Oppenheimer at Trinity.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:37 PM (fWkSd)

453 388 I have taken the black pill. Dominion will change every vote in every machine
____________

See that story over the weekend about how Dominion's voting machines in GA were all compromised with some weird code that Dominion couldn't explain, didn't know how it got into the machines, etc., but which was causing large batches of votes to go uncounted? Tennessee had the same thing in a bunch of its voting machines.

And yet, we keep being told how the system is soooo very secure, and nobody should be questioning it, and anybody who does is just some nutty conspiracy theorist.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at October 17, 2022 01:38 PM (MvHI3)

454 443 Every single system allows for backstabbing, double dealing, and lying.

Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (CXr4y)

=========

My tyranny will be fierce but fair.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:38 PM (LvTSG)

455 Amazing how in all of Germany there were like 12 actual Nazis. I mean tht is what must have been the case since nobody today had any family members who were Nazis, none of the scientists were Nazis. Kinda like how every Frenchman was in the Resistance but in reverse.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 17, 2022 01:34 PM (A+qp1)

There were no Germans left after WW2. Strangely, about 60 million additional Dutch people suddenly appeared at the end of the war.

Posted by: Gref at October 17, 2022 01:38 PM (AMIL/)

456 I guess scrapple is a Pennsylvania thing. The only thing worse would be Spam ice cream.
Posted by: redridinghood

At least Scrapple is fried. Hogs head cheese is served cold. But it is so damned good on a Ritz cracker.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:39 PM (NlFlr)

457 "El Chapo" was a Guzman.

Posted by: Lola at October 17, 2022 01:39 PM (NIYa7)

458 There were no Germans left after WW2. Strangely, about 60 million additional Dutch people suddenly appeared at the end of the war.

https://youtu.be/dmhgcC5dYkE

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 17, 2022 01:39 PM (Bd6X8)

459 Whistleblowers: FBI Has “Voluminous Evidence” Of Hunter Biden’s Criminal Conduct Related to Ukraine and China

Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 01:40 PM (RHGPo)

460 366 Crenshaw is acting like a villain who poked out his good eye, so the bad eye could take over.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM

Ruprecht > Crenshaw

Posted by: Dirty Rotten Scoundrels math at October 17, 2022 01:40 PM (ZJlxc)

461 And yet, we keep being told how the system is soooo very secure, and nobody should be questioning it, and anybody who does is just some nutty conspiracy theorist.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at October 17, 2022 01:38 PM (MvHI3)

Exactly right.

Posted by: clutch at October 17, 2022 01:41 PM (9UmRs)

462
All the German scientists moved to the US and worked at NASA.

Some of them ended up in the Soviet Union as well.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

David Jones: The Russians put our camera made by *our* German scientists and your film made by *your* German scientists into their satellite made by *their* German scientists.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 01:41 PM (n+4am)

463 There were efforts to prevent the broadcast of the surrender announcement, which failed, but generally surrender orders were complied with. Some small units, such as stragglers in the hills of Saipan, required direct contact and negotiation.
Posted by: rhomboid

Didn't one lone survivor hide out in the Philippine hills until the early 70's?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:41 PM (NlFlr)

464 Rhomboid

You forgot they also removed propellers from the planes just to make sure no one did a late kamikaze while they were signing the articles of surrender.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:41 PM (fWkSd)

465 >>>I mean tht is what must have been the case since nobody today had any family members who were Nazis, none of the scientists were Nazis.

>I worked with the proud son of a former NAZI who migrated to America after the war. He wasn't a skinhead racist or an ideologue, he was a metal headbanger who could make some fantastically delicious bratwurst and sauerkraut.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 17, 2022 01:41 PM (z+OQR)

466 The U.S. Redstone rocket, was essentially a V-2 but with a nuclear warhead.

Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 01:42 PM (gmo/4)

467 Nearly every system has some virtue, and many are equal in their value, assuming humanity is not wicked and sinful. Ideally, a noble, virtuous tyrant with absolute power is the perfect choice for government. But there is no such person, and even if there were, who succeeds him?

All systems ultimately fail because humans are sinful and selfish. Eventually no matter how well designed, they fall apart and corrupt, it is absolutely inevitable.

That's why capitalism is so brilliant: because it weaponizes human greed and corruption to the greatest benefit to the largest number of people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:42 PM (Ivdso)

468 /sock

Posted by: Oddbob at October 17, 2022 01:43 PM (nfrXX)

469 Happy LGBT history month. Finally they get a month to celebrate their gayness.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 01:44 PM (R8uWY)

470 At least Scrapple is fried. Hogs head cheese is served cold. But it is so damned good on a Ritz cracker.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:39 PM (NlFlr)

Used to love that stuff as a kid. Haven't had it in decades.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)

471 All the other 3 letter agencies have been fully weaponized, CPS is no exception, apparently.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 17, 2022 01:44 PM (7NKxb)

472 Would Garrett wear a Beret or a Fez?

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 01:44 PM (KY22T)

473 Didn't one lone survivor hide out in the Philippine hills until the early 70's?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:41 PM (NlFlr

My dad said he probably shot at that slippery son of a bitch.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 17, 2022 01:45 PM (BdMk6)

474 I still fail to see where any of this is the government's job.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:45 PM (Zz0t1)

475 Happy LGBT history month. Finally they get a month to celebrate their gayness.

Don't you love how it works? President's Day: 1 day. Christmas: 1 day. Thanksgiving: 1 day.

Flaming queer gets a whole month.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:45 PM (Ivdso)

476 The driver of former First Lady Michelle Obama, who is also a U.S. Secret Service employee, has been charged with witness intimidation and criminal harassment

Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 01:45 PM (RHGPo)

477 Oh yeah it's definitely coming to the floor, because I'm going to bring it to the floor, and make every Democrat vote on it.

--------------

Good. But do more. Pass a law that restricts this but will also do more and can be used to protect parents in the future for these fights that we know are coming.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 17, 2022 01:46 PM (sX1BW)

478 Didn't one lone survivor hide out in the Philippine hills until the early 70's?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:41 PM

1974

Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 01:46 PM (gmo/4)

479 Hogs head cheese is served cold. But it is so damned good on a Ritz cracker.

*stumbles out of the channel trying not to vomit*

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:47 PM (Ivdso)

480 Would Garrett wear a Beret or a Fez?

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 17, 2022 01:44 PM (KY22T)

Fez. Goes better with Crocs.

Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 01:47 PM (gmo/4)

481 That's OK, I'll just sit here and talk to myself.
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022

***
"I'll just sit here and play with my organ."
( -- Al Bundy, not knowing the lines, in costume as the Phantom of the Opera)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 17, 2022 01:47 PM (J2vNu)

482 Looks like Guzman swallowed Peru before leaving it. Has anyone checked a current map lately?

Meow.

Posted by: Cheri at October 17, 2022 01:47 PM (oiNtH)

483 Used to love that stuff as a kid. Haven't had it in decades.
Posted by: Sponge

One of the guys that used to come to our Houston paintball scenarios was a coonass oil rig cook. He'd bring some along with making a huge pot of gumbo.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:47 PM (NlFlr)

484 Operation Lusty was lead by Col. Watson. Their mission was to collect samples of every German plane they could that held technical significance.

Which is why the Royal Navy escort carrier HMS Reaper was loaded with at least three He 219s, almost a dozen Me 262s of various versions, Do-335s, and others to be transported back to the United States for evaluation.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:47 PM (fWkSd)

485 Is anyone else's font tiny?
Posted by: Miss Issippi
=========
Girthy. Positively girthy.

Posted by: I'll show you, I'll show you ALLL!!!! at October 17, 2022 01:47 PM (FP2R9)

486 Don't give up hope. Jill Biden was booed at the Lincoln Financial Field during the Eagles games yesterday. In fact, at least one loud person, maybe a woman, could be heard yelling, "FJB!"

In Philadelphia, Democratic Philly, pro-union Philly, Joe's backyard.

I hope Ace takes notice.

Posted by: Lola at October 17, 2022 01:47 PM (NIYa7)

487 From what I've read of the early Soviet space program, the Russians didn't really put "their" Germans to much use, due to their usual paranoia. They kept them separated from the Russians doing the actual work. Some of the Germans who had volunteered to go over to the Soviets got pretty depressed at doing nothing but paper studies unrelated to the real hardware development.

Posted by: spindrift at October 17, 2022 01:48 PM (h5TKJ)

488 450 I like the speaker's style: no, no, trust me, your lunatic proposal is definitely coming to the floor for a vote.

I mean, yeah, I like it in the sense that you force them to defend it and argue it, and see what other loons support it, but at the same time, nothing ever comes of this kind of thing. Its not like they make a movie about it or any news covers it
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Bring it forth to the light of day. Let those who gaze upon the evil exposed and be enlightened. Not enough for our liking, but there will be some.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 17, 2022 01:49 PM (fs1hN)

489 486 Don't give up hope. Jill Biden was booed at the Lincoln Financial Field during the Eagles games yesterday. In fact, at least one loud person, maybe a woman, could be heard yelling, "FJB!"

In Philadelphia, Democratic Philly, pro-union Philly, Joe's backyard.

I hope Ace takes notice.
Posted by: Lola at October 17, 2022 01:47 PM (NIYa7)

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As has been noted, Eagles fans booed Santa Claus.

If the Philadelphia Eagles football fans really want to make a difference, they will show up to vote counting locations and monitor the proceedings with cameras aplenty.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:49 PM (LvTSG)

490 He'd bring some along with making a huge pot of gumbo.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:47 PM (NlFlr)

Best gumbo I ever had was early on in the life of Texas Motor Speedway. We were leaving and sitting in the ridiculous traffic coming out of the campgrounds on a rain cancelled Sunday. When we let someone in, they would bring us beer. One guy walked up and said "Y'all look hungry." He came back with a huge plate piled with gumbo and rice.

We left the track with a damn good buzz and full bellies. That was damn good stuff.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

491 Operation Lusty was lead by Col. Watson.

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Operation Gluttony was led by Col. Vindman.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 17, 2022 01:50 PM (sX1BW)

492 but we know that a CPS charge could harm your employment."

Is that a threat? 'Cuz it sure sounds like a threat.

Posted by: creeper at October 17, 2022 01:51 PM (GdtZp)

493 1974
Posted by: Archer

Hiroo Onoda.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:51 PM (NlFlr)

494 And yet...all the ads are cut. It's abortion all the time while news keeps percolating about how Democrats at every level want to cut off your kids dicks.

I was just listening to CJN about this. I think JJ/CBD/DaveInFL missed the most likely possibility: if the Democrats stopped pushing abortion or tried to sound moderate on it, their base wouldn't show up and it'd be a blowout of epic proportions. The Dems' base is all childless women, and for them abortion is the most important thing in the world because it's how they create more childless women.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 17, 2022 01:51 PM (ZGrMX)

495 478 Didn't one lone survivor hide out in the Philippine hills until the early 70's?
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:41 PM

1974
Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 01:46 PM

If you knew his wife, you'd understand.

Posted by: MGTOW at October 17, 2022 01:51 PM (ZJlxc)

496 The Daily Daddario is slightly aghast at the ballsiness of the VA GOP:

https://tinyurl.com/2s457hja

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:52 PM (LvTSG)

497 *types* *Deletes*

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 17, 2022 01:52 PM (CwQXo)

498 G4TV shut down, sorry wokesters.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:52 PM (Ivdso)

499 What was it, in 2004 I think Russia discovered they still had 80 some odd Japanese they had captured in the last days of World War II still living inside the former Soviet borders.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:53 PM (fWkSd)

500
https://tinyurl.com/2s457hja
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:52 PM (LvTSG)

Hide your bunnies.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

501 It's time to bring back public flogging. Also. Tar. And Feathers.

Posted by: Joe fingerblaster at October 17, 2022 01:53 PM (JIBS0)

502 494 I was just listening to CJN about this. I think JJ/CBD/DaveInFL missed the most likely possibility: if the Democrats stopped pushing abortion or tried to sound moderate on it, their base wouldn't show up and it'd be a blowout of epic proportions. The Dems' base is all childless women, and for them abortion is the most important thing in the world because it's how they create more childless women.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 17, 2022 01:51 PM (ZGrMX)

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They can't run on the issues that matter to the rest of the population because they have nothing good to say about the economy. "We're not Trump," doesn't put food on the table.

I think they gave up on the persuadable voters months ago, knowing that their donors wouldn't fund them if they ran on anything that appealed to moderate voters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:53 PM (LvTSG)

503 He'd bring some along with making a huge pot of gumbo.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 01:47 PM (NlFlr)

Best gumbo I ever had was early on in the life of Texas Motor Speedway. We were leaving and sitting in the ridiculous traffic coming out of the campgrounds on a rain cancelled Sunday. When we let someone in, they would bring us beer. One guy walked up and said "Y'all look hungry." He came back with a huge plate piled with gumbo and rice.

We left the track with a damn good buzz and full bellies. That was damn good stuff.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

Maybe the best meal I ever had was smoked duck gumbo at Google's cafeteria in Kirkland. Went back for 3 bowls...never had found it since leaving Google.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:53 PM (V6f9+)

504 The Dems' base is all childless women, and for them abortion is the most important thing in the world because it's how they create more childless women.
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I do wonder why some women who will have no chance to get impregnated or maybe even have intercourse with a fertile man are so obsessed with abortion 'rights'.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 17, 2022 01:54 PM (fs1hN)

505 500 Hide your bunnies.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

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The Daily Daddario thinks you're, like, so funny, and stuff:

https://tinyurl.com/2azaadyy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

506 My tyranny will be fierce but fair.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Hobbes would have liked your style. Locke, not so much.

Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 01:54 PM (CXr4y)

507 Bah. That shit is tame now.

Went to an Iggles game at the Vet against Johnson's Cowboys.

Beirut or the Gaza Strip were fucking safer.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 01:54 PM (PWvcU)

508 501 It's time to bring back public flogging. Also. Tar. And Feathers.
Posted by: Joe fingerblaster at October 17, 2022 01:53 PM (JIBS0)

Stocks. Oubliette. What was the elevated cage thing called? There is also the Wheel (both varieties.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 17, 2022 01:54 PM (CwQXo)

509 504
I do wonder why some women who will have no chance to get impregnated or maybe even have intercourse with a fertile man are so obsessed with abortion 'rights'.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 17, 2022 01:54 PM (fs1hN)

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Because being part of the movement gives them purpose that they can't find in their personal lives?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (LvTSG)

510 496 The Daily Daddario is slightly aghast at the ballsiness of the VA GOP:

https://tinyurl.com/2s457hja
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:52 PM (LvTSG)

She does look startled

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (V6f9+)

511 Top quality insanity.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 17, 2022 12:31 PM (53HNX)

Always go bespoke, it calls out to quality and impresses the fellows down at the club

Posted by: Kindltot at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (xhaym)

512 I think CRT replied to you
Posted by: kallisto at October 17, 2022 01:36 PM (dCxaZ)
........

I'm not quite operating at 100% this morning.

Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (v0R5T)

513 if the Democrats stopped pushing abortion or tried to sound moderate on it, their base wouldn't show up and it'd be a blowout of epic proportions.

Yeah, they aren't convincing anyone but its about keeping their base stirred up and angry so they show up and vote, or things might be even worse than they fear.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (Ivdso)

514 Mayorkas swiped at Republicans during a call with The Dallas Morning News. Their rhetoric is causing problems at the border, not the Biden administration:

“I’ve got a lot of work to do, and I intend to continue to do it. That’s my response,” he said, during a meeting with The Dallas Morning News editorial board.

He added that “the political cry that the border is open” — a common refrain from GOP critics — “is music to the smugglers’ ears, because they take that political rhetoric and they market it” to desperate migrants from Venezuela and other countries.

Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (RHGPo)

515
Jill Biden probably was wearing a Dallas jersey.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (y3pKJ)

516 I do wonder why some women who will have no chance to get impregnated or maybe even have intercourse with a fertile man are so obsessed with abortion 'rights'.

Because if they must suffer misery they want everyone to suffer misery.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (fWkSd)

517
My tyranny will be desultory and humdrum. Vote Dice, not Madison.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 01:56 PM (oINRc)

518 506 My tyranny will be fierce but fair.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Hobbes would have liked your style. Locke, not so much.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 01:54 PM (CXr4y)

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I've been playing a lot of Civilization Call to Power recently. I go Tyranny > Monarchy > Fascism > Corporate Republic.

As long as I can keep the other nations off my back through the modern age, I end up wealthy and powerful. Then I let loose the nukes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:56 PM (LvTSG)

519
He added that “the political cry that the border is open” — a common refrain from GOP critics — “is music to the smugglers’ ears, because they take that political rhetoric and they market it” to desperate migrants from Venezuela and other countries.
Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (RHGPo)

And they're allowed right in when they get here because the BORDERS ARE OPEN.

He should be hanged.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:56 PM (Zz0t1)

520 I do wonder why some women who will have no chance to get impregnated or maybe even have intercourse with a fertile man are so obsessed with abortion 'rights'.
Posted by: Chuck Martel
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It is a thing. People often accept what they feel is injustice in their own lives but become oh so virtuous proclaiming about injustice to others. Part of the reason that the idea of a rational voter is often heavily criticized because quite often that vote is not congruent with their own actions in personal life.

Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 01:56 PM (CXr4y)

521 Because being part of the movement gives them purpose that they can't find in their personal lives?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (LvTSG)

They have a giant hole running right through the middle of em. They can never abort enough or fuck enough to ever fill it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 17, 2022 01:56 PM (CwQXo)

522 My tyranny will be desultory and humdrum. Vote Dice, not Madison.

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I originally read that as tranny ... and it changes the comment a bit. But not much.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (sX1BW)

523 Because being part of the movement gives them purpose that they can't find in their personal lives?
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Why not find a somewhat acceptable, soon to be former 'incel', settle down, get married and have a kid?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (fs1hN)

524 Jill Biden probably was wearing a Dallas jersey.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (y3pKJ)

Trailer park trash whore.

Saw her, but the volume was down, so I didn't hear any crowd noise or boos.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (Zz0t1)

525 517
My tyranny will be desultory and humdrum. Vote Dice, not Madison.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 01:56 PM (oINRc)

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I will crush you!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (LvTSG)

526 I got a good bit of advice from a friend of mine. He said, ‘Bear, you live alone, and stay to yourself. Perfect fodder for the gossip mill. One kid gets sick on tampered candy, and the eyes are on YOU!” I don’t know if they still have them but Micky D’s used to sell coupons you could give out, each good for a small portion of French fries. I started giving those out.

Posted by: SMOD at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (RHGPo)

527 He added that “the political cry that the border is open” — a common refrain from GOP critics — “is music to the smugglers’ ears, because they take that political rhetoric and they market it” to desperate migrants from Venezuela and other countries.

Which wouldn't matter at all, if the border was not wide open. I mean talk about countering your own argument.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (Ivdso)

528 My tyranny will be fierce but fair.

Most trannies are just fierce, girlfriend.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (Vu7A1)

529 the political cry that the border is open” — a common refrain from GOP critics — “is music to the smugglers’ ears, because they take that political rhetoric and they market it” to desperate migrants from Venezuela and other countries.
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because the problem is you mentioning there is a problem, not the problem.

Posted by: wife beater logic at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (MTU1K)

530 From what I've read of the early Soviet space program, the Russians didn't really put "their" Germans to much use, due to their usual paranoia. They kept them separated from the Russians doing the actual work. Some of the Germans who had volunteered to go over to the Soviets got pretty depressed at doing nothing but paper studies unrelated to the real hardware development.

Posted by: spindrift at October 17, 2022 01:48 PM (h5TKJ)

I believe they were kept at Zavod 88, the heart of boredom

Posted by: Kindltot at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (xhaym)

531 Nood. Strippers.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (zhLdt)

532 Illegals from Venezuela?

How do they even get to the US unless there is willing accomplices in Central American countries. This is human trafficking at its worse because there are state sponsors involved.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (fWkSd)

533 523 Why not find a somewhat acceptable, soon to be former 'incel', settle down, get married and have a kid?
Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 17, 2022 01:57 PM (fs1hN)

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Because she's beautiful and deserves the 8 pack abs with an 8 figure income and 8 inch dick.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (LvTSG)

534 496 The Daily Daddario is slightly aghast at the ballsiness of the VA GOP:

https://tinyurl.com/2s457hja
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 17, 2022 01:52 PM (LvTSG)

Who else here believes those eyes are fully-functional laser weapons?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (906pl)

535 Nood

Posted by: Furious George at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (CkFy6)

536 I do wonder why some women who will have no chance to get impregnated or maybe even have intercourse with a fertile man are so obsessed with abortion 'rights'.

Because it's a load-bearing column of feminism that men are more successful because they bang everything that moves, so the way for women to be equally successful is also to bang everything that moves. It's pure cargo cultism, based purely on observation of big-name Democrat men.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (ZGrMX)

537 Somewhat related: The cosmetics retailer, Ulta, is pushing trans in their advertising which is already backfiring bigly with a campaign to boycott Ulta. I went in to an Ulta store a few weeks ago with my daughter and some large woman sales associate came up to me to ask if I need any help and she, although not unattractive was wearing a shit load of make-up and then I knew it was a pretend female. Of course the beginnings of a five o'clock shadow also clued me in.

Posted by: Cheri at October 17, 2022 01:58 PM (oiNtH)

538 They fucked with the volume when they introduced Mrs. Madpants.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (PWvcU)

539 Nood poll. Not tiny at all, TYVM.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 17, 2022 01:59 PM (yHsuS)

540 I do wonder why some women who will have no chance to get impregnated or maybe even have intercourse with a fertile man are so obsessed with abortion 'rights'.

If you directly asked them, it would be about solidarity and compassion but the real reason is that its part of the religion.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:00 PM (Ivdso)

541
The U.S. Redstone rocket, was essentially a V-2 but with a nuclear warhead.
Posted by: Archer

If memory serves, so was the Russian Scud, basically a lengthened V2 with a more modern intertial guidance system.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 02:00 PM (n+4am)

542 Best shrimp gumbo I had was at the Half Shell Dockside in Apalachicola, FL

Posted by: Archer at October 17, 2022 02:00 PM (gmo/4)

543 Because she's beautiful and deserves the 8 pack abs with an 8 figure income and 8 inch dick.

She's the prize! She's a 10 and won't settle! She's bringing so much to the table by merely existing! She wants to be a power couple!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 02:01 PM (Ivdso)

544 Jill Biden probably was wearing a Dallas jersey.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 01:55 PM (y3pKJ)

***

And crotchless fishnets

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (flINI)

545 *sigh*

Today was supposed to be Irish Cream day. And it would have been if I could've found two quarts of whipping cream within a twenty-mile radius. I scored ONE PINT at a little grocery fifteen miles up the road. Serves me right for waiting so long.

And for moving to the middle of nowhere.

Not to worry. I will bite the bullet, saddle my horse and head for the nearest WalMart. There will be Bailey's in Corsicana.

Posted by: creeper at October 17, 2022 02:03 PM (GdtZp)

546 U. S. Markets are up nicely today, so far.

Posted by: Lola at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (NIYa7)

547
Ah, should have looked it up first. Scud wasn't a direct V2 variant, the earlier R-1 was. Scud was Russian-designed from the ground up.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 02:04 PM (n+4am)

548 I've been playing a lot of Civilization Call to Power recently. I go Tyranny > Monarchy > Fascism > Corporate Republic.

As long as I can keep the other nations off my back through the modern age, I end up wealthy and powerful. Then I let loose the nukes.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Interesting. Pretty much checked out of the game scene in the 90's but history tends to vary a bit on the latter two stages. Part of the reason is far too much popular history focuses on Rome rather than other examples. Italy, for example during the Middle Ages through the Renaissance had about every form of government in existence and Greece nearly did so.

Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (CXr4y)

549 Off Topic: Now that Ukraine seems to be winning, the Neocons seem to be upping the ante?

The US is supposedly putting together another Billion Dollar arms give-away. Ukraine wants longer range ATACMS Ballistic Missiles along with more HIMARS missiles, and others are pushing to give Ukraine modern Main Battle Tanks and modern Fighter Jets. Sure seems they want to push Russia into a corner.

Posted by: rd at October 17, 2022 12:51 PM (Z32m1)

In fact, the well has pretty much dried up. In the last go round of arms for Ukraine, the money was for an order for our builders to make a HIMARS, not to ship one out there. That will obviously take quite a while to get on the field. Even worse is the ammo situation. Everything shipped out the last 6 months has not been replaced and stocks for the main army are very low.

I don't see MBTs getting sent - it isn't like anyone in the EU has plenty of spares and it would be an instant provocation. There's a reason that NATO keeps turning down Ukraine as a member - they don't want all out war with Russia.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 02:07 PM (eoQWY)

550 Interesting. Pretty much checked out of the game scene in the 90's but history tends to vary a bit on the latter two stages. Part of the reason is far too much popular history focuses on Rome rather than other examples. Italy, for example during the Middle Ages through the Renaissance had about every form of government in existence and Greece nearly did so.
Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 02:05 PM (CXr4y)

For Civilization, try Alpha Centauri. Great interface. Pretty much perfected the medium in 1998.

For actual Civilization games, IV was not bad with the expansions. V looks way too stripped down for my tastes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 17, 2022 02:10 PM (CwQXo)

551 And today the head of Gazprom said the gas that was going to Nord Stream 2 can be shipped to Turkey instead.

Another brilliant coup by our foreign policy experts.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 17, 2022 01:18 PM (ZLI7S)

Even before Nordstream was blown, Putin had warned Germany that they would no longer be priorities for future deliveries - India, China, and other countries in Asia would be.

This might be an indication why Germany is taking the blowing of the pipeline so quietly. Everyone seems to want to forget about it. Curious, right?

Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 02:18 PM (eoQWY)

552 Another one this cow sponsored (it passed and was signed by blackface in 2020) was to remove 'incompetence' as grounds for dismissing a teacher. Not changing the definition, just erasing it from the law.

Posted by: Landru at October 17, 2022 04:02 PM (mEYVq)

553 All liberal democrats should be voted out of office next month

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554
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