Daily Tech News 21 September 2022

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Nvidia had its big announcement. (AnandTech)

Lots of stuff, but the most immediately interesting are the RTX 4080 and 4090. (Tom's Hardware)

The 4090, launching October 12, has twice the performance of the 3090 Ti - from 40 TFLOPs to over 80 TFLOPs - while being 20% cheaper. Which would be more impressive if the 3090 Ti hadn't been priced at $2000.

The 4080 will arrive in November in two models, with 12GB of RAM and 40 TFLOPs at $900, and 16GB of RAM and 48 TFLOPs at $1200. That's a significant difference; either the 16GB model should be called the 4080 Ti or the 12GB model should be the 4070 Ti.

While the base 4080 has the same compute power as the 3090 Ti at less than half the price, it also has half the memory and half the memory bandwidth. Nvidia is making up for that by increasing the on-chip cache from 6MB to 48MB (and 96MB on the 4090).

AMD did that with the Radeon RX 6000 range, and it worked pretty well. The options for doubling bandwidth over the 3090 Ti are pretty much restricted to HBM, which isn't exactly cheap. On the other hand, moving from Samsung's 8nm process to TSMC's 4nm meant Nvidia had a huge number of transistors to play with - up from 28 billion on the 3090 Ti to 76 billion on the 4090 - so using five billion or so on cache was not a hard call to make.

While $900 for the smaller RTX 4080 looks good compared to the $2000 3090 Ti, it doesn't look nearly so good when compared with the $700 RTX 3080, and gamers don't seem to be happy. It's about 30% more expensive and offers about 30% more performance.

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At least when it comes to raw calculation. Nividia's selective game benchmarks paint a rosier picture. (Press Start)

The 4080 is nearly twice as fast as the 3080 Ti in Microsoft Flight Simulator and more than twice as fast in Cyberpunk 2077, for example. Definitely a case of wait for the third-party benchmarks.

That article also lists Australian prices for the three cards, and it's pretty painful reading: A$1659 for the 12GB 4080, A$2219 for the 16GB model, and A$2959 for the 4090.

The 10GB RTX 3080 is available for A$1149 right now, and even the 3090 Ti is down to A$2399.
AMD will be launching its own new lineup of graphics cards November 3. (Tom's Hardware)

It will be interesting to see how they set pricing. Being second to market is not always a disadvantage.
Star Citizen - a crowdfunded space game - has raised half a billion dollars. (WCCFTech)

Over the course of ten years.

And it's still not in beta yet.

On the other hand, it's apparently fun to play and fans are happy to keep throwing money at it. They're not lying, they're not stealing, and as far as I know they're not pretending an ugly monkey JPEG is worth a quarter million dollars.
Decentralised finance platform Wintermute, which I have never heard of, just lost $160 million. (Tech Crunch)

And unlike Star Citizen they don't even have cool exploding spaceships to show for it.
You can run arbitrary code on an x86 CPU without running any code. (Dartmouth) (PDF)

The memory management and interrupt handling units form a Turing-complete environment even without executing a single instruction.
QNAP has a couple of new small NASes. (Serve the Home)

Hardware looks good. Software, well, it's QNAP. Keep it away from the internet.
Germany's broad data retention laws are illegal, says the EU. (Reuters)

And sometimes Europe just fights among itself. Themselves?
If you want to buy some floppy disks, time is running out. (The Register)

They haven't been made for a decade, and the one company still selling them in volume has about half a million new disks left in stock.

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Disclaimer: 16 is the new 12.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:00 AM

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1 w00t

Posted by: m at September 21, 2022 04:03 AM (GkGYg)

2 Good evening Pixy

Coffee is on, it's a start

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 04:05 AM (k8B25)

3 And the evening and the morning were the Wednesday, and it was . . . pretty decent. So far!

I need to get ready to work out. As I mentioned on the ONT, my councilman wants to do a walk-through of my apartment to see the atrocious conditions at 11:30, so I'm calling in sick today. Extra time for breakfast, reading, and posting.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 04:06 AM (c6xtn)

4 Everyone knows the answer to all computer problems is to download a Linux Distro, throw away all your TVs, then insist on telling everyone in any situation, like, the self-checkout line at Walmart, all about how great Linux is, like some Hare Krishna at the airport.
Why, Pixie, do you not just tell people this?
GIMP!

Posted by: LenNeal at September 21, 2022 04:06 AM (U11/V)

5 Good morning Skip. Good morning m.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at September 21, 2022 04:06 AM (BLOW1)

6 >>>And sometimes Europe just fights among itself. Themselves?

And sometimes Euroweenies just fight among themselves.

Posted by: AoSHq stylesheet at September 21, 2022 04:06 AM (GkGYg)

7 Apparently Intel is rebranding its Celeron, Pentium, and Atom chips as Intel Processors. This should be entertaining. An Intel Processor is an Intel processor while a Core processor is not an Intel Processor but is an Intel processor. I think it would have been a lot clearer if they had rebranded all of them to Can'tAffordCore processors.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 04:07 AM (JwXG8)

8 Got a new job with AMD starting this fall. It's should be fun helping design the next gen after RDNA3 and trying to beat my friends on the green team.

Posted by: Bitblt at September 21, 2022 04:09 AM (O+SGk)

9 And, in the interest of actual productive advice, the best deal for storage off a hard drive, is HP 10-packs of USBs. About -$30@10, it's a terrific way to do it. Only problem is they all look the same so invest in paint markers, a file system of some kind involving a list, and a tackle box.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 21, 2022 04:10 AM (U11/V)

10 The Windows 11 2022 update is in the wild. One of my machines updated and the other for some mysterious Microsoft reason is not allowed to to participate yet. One feature that will be useful is the start menu can now have folders. And because folders are cool, the file explorer apparently now allows folders but I haven't played with that yet. Apparently you can also drag files down onto the task bar. And then there's a host of other things that I don't know about yet.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 04:11 AM (JwXG8)

11 Went to bed early (on time) to get a good night's sleep. Wake up an hour and a half early. Love how my brain works.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 04:11 AM (dNqv+)

12 Got a new job with AMD starting this fall. It's should be fun helping design the next gen after RDNA3 and trying to beat my friends on the green team. Posted by: Bitblt

Congratulations. That sounds like a really great job.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 04:13 AM (JwXG8)

13 4 Everyone knows the answer to all computer problems is to download a Linux Distro, throw away all your TVs, then insist on telling everyone in any situation, like, the self-checkout line at Walmart, all about how great Linux is, like some Hare Krishna at the airport.
Why, Pixie, do you not just tell people this?
GIMP!
Posted by: LenNeal at September 21, 2022 04:06 AM (U11/V)

Humans are fun. Veganism. Crossfit. Linux. It's all the same thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 04:13 AM (dNqv+)

14 I need to get ready to work out. As I mentioned on the ONT, my councilman wants to do a walk-through of my apartment to see the atrocious conditions at 11:30, so I'm calling in sick today. Extra time for breakfast, reading, and posting.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 04:06 AM (c6xtn)

Playing hookey. Hooky?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 04:14 AM (dNqv+)

15 I guess my lead box worked to block phone, didn't hear it ring when called but as soon as took it out it showed missed call.

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2022 04:16 AM (k8B25)

16 Or Covidism. Add that to the cultish behavior.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 04:16 AM (dNqv+)

17 8 Got a new job with AMD starting this fall. It's should be fun helping design the next gen after RDNA3 and trying to beat my friends on the green team.
Posted by: Bitblt at September 21, 2022 04:09 AM (O+SGk)

This sounds like great news. Congratulations.

Posted by: AoSHq stylesheet at September 21, 2022 04:17 AM (GkGYg)

18 10 for some mysterious Microsoft reason
Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 04:11 AM (JwXG

heh

Posted by: m at September 21, 2022 04:19 AM (GkGYg)

19 heh Posted by: m

I'm probably in the minority here but I really like Microsoft products. Been using him forever and they just do what I need to get done but I have to say they do some mysterious things sometimes. That used to irritate me to no end but I'm now immune to it and find it all quite amusing.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 04:21 AM (JwXG8)

20 https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/2022/09/
the-hms-australia.html

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2022 04:22 AM (k8B25)

21 Electric airplane test linked over at Insty.

https://tinyurl.com/2d2fy25m

It is strange, but why do all electric vehicles always have exactly the same feel. Look at our acceleration! Look at the torque!

We know guys. Electric motors do that. How about actually being able to fly. You announced this thing in 2019 and still have not gotten off the ground? I get the feeling the ghost of Chuck Yeager is laughing at you.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 04:22 AM (dNqv+)

22 I'm probably in the minority here but I really like Microsoft products. Been using him forever and they just do what I need to get done but I have to say they do some mysterious things sometimes. That used to irritate me to no end but I'm now immune to it and find it all quite amusing.
Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 04:21 AM (JwXG

Agreed. Also add Apple to the list of cultish followers. I have gotten that vibe since about '94.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 04:24 AM (dNqv+)

23 Good morning fellow day walkers and insomniacs. Dog got me up at 2:30. Apparently this is the time of day she likes to play and show me all the bones she plans to chew on until she falls asleep. Might as well login and start work now.

Posted by: hubcap at September 21, 2022 04:25 AM (bIz+p)

24 Thanks all! I'm definitely excited.

Posted by: Bitblt at September 21, 2022 04:27 AM (O+SGk)

25 Ive been getting those retro computer pages popping up on Instagram for me the last few days, and it does have me nostalgic for a time when getting a 2x cd-rom drive was something to dream about.

I mean at that time going to a computer store was something to look forward to. Sure it was an hour drive away, but you could see the newest version of Encarta, and it was a trip for ther whole family. Now I want to kill myself even imagining having to go in to a best buy.

This also reminds me, I too probably have half a million unused floppy disks.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 21, 2022 04:28 AM (py2fD)

26 23 Dog got me up at 2:30. Apparently this is the time of day she likes to play and show me all the bones she plans to chew on until she falls asleep.
Posted by: hubcap at September 21, 2022 04:25 AM (bIz+p)

Good dog!

Posted by: m at September 21, 2022 04:28 AM (GkGYg)

27 I use Linux Mint on my 10+ year old HP workstation. I like it. Solid OS. It's extended the use of that old box.

I'm not very good at evangelizing OS's. Linux Mint is pretty decent.

And with that, got to get ready for another work week. I've had very little sleep and have a 12 hour day at the 5 sided nut house in Arlington, VA. Yay.

Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2022 04:29 AM (sAmhv)

28 Agreed. Also add Apple to the list of cultish followers. I have gotten that vibe since about '94.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

I started out my professional computer career in a Unix environment and it was all quite lovely. Then I got hired at Microsoft and boy was that an eye opener. My Microsoft co-workers be like , "UNIX, those were the guys that got their balls cut off right?" A few months later I was one of those people. In the end Microsoft was a great career. Made me a lot of money, has funded my retirement and I couldn't even begin to think about not using Microsoft products because of the life it provided me. But damn they are amusing sometimes

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 04:30 AM (JwXG8)

29 Posted by: m at September 21, 2022 04:28 AM (GkGYg)
she is cute, adorable, and I love her. but at 2:30am, is less so. I acknowledge it is my fault, since volunteering to coach football at the local HS, i threw off our routine of walking, so she has more energy at sub-optimal times. when we would go for our daily walk, she was wore out the rest of the day.

Posted by: hubcap at September 21, 2022 04:32 AM (bIz+p)

30 In other Tech News-

The Nvidia Francisco Franco chip is still dead.

Posted by: Miklos for the hearing impaired at September 21, 2022 04:36 AM (d+wXR)

31 I started out my professional computer career in a Unix environment and it was all quite lovely. Then I got hired at Microsoft and boy was that an eye opener. My Microsoft co-workers be like , "UNIX, those were the guys that got their balls cut off right?" A few months later I was one of those people. In the end Microsoft was a great career. Made me a lot of money, has funded my retirement and I couldn't even begin to think about not using Microsoft products because of the life it provided me. But damn they are amusing sometimes
Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 04:30 AM (JwXG

Early memory: My aunt has worked for UofL UCS for... 40 years? I was maybe 8ish and she took me in to work on a weekend. It was shadowy. Terminals everywhere, but t was an office environment. Black screens with yellow/amber type. I am guessing IBM 101 keyboards. As I type on the same type of keyboard right now, I am wondering about how memory works. I have no idea why we were there. I vaguely remember it must have been a Saturday because there was no one else there and the main lights were off. Maybe my parents were just getting me out of the house, but my sister was not with us.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 04:39 AM (dNqv+)

32 When COVID hit I let my hair and beard grow and after a while started thinking I looked like an animal. But now it's a fashion thing!

I'm a modern-day John Wick without the suit and tie.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 21, 2022 04:47 AM (w2Z7l)

33 After seeing that kickstarter amount i looked at the list of highest crowd funding projects, and it seems creating a blockchain doohickey might be as good of a scam as creating a coin itself. There's dozens and dozens of projects that have raised over $20 million or so having to do with creating decentralized this or that, and basically none of them addres anywhere near done.

So I'm guessing Pixy is right, so many of these projects addres just ways to continually get paid as you string everyone along.

Looks like the only projects over like $15 million that actually were completed were the Glowforge and a TV show about Jesus.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 21, 2022 04:48 AM (py2fD)

34 My new Pixel 6a showed up today. The reason I bought it is for some mysterious reason Google gave me a $300 credit for my Pixel 3AXL which is worth 25 bucks anyplace else on the planet. All said and done this phone will cost me $180. Over the years I've come up with a standard set up for my phones which is really great because if I need to I can just pop the sim out of one and pop it in the next one and boom same environment. The downside is it takes me like six or seven hours to set up a phone. Big rule in life: making something simple to use is hard . So far the Tensor cpu is snappy snd the antennas are noticeably better than what was my daily driver, a Pixel 4a 5G.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 04:50 AM (JwXG8)

35 I spent a few Christmas Eve mornings with my mother at AT&T Long Lines in White Plains. I played with the punch card machines and the green and white striped printer paper. My dad took me to IBM in Poughkeepsie and made me wear a tie.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 21, 2022 04:50 AM (b+v9B)

36 My dad took me to IBM in Poughkeepsie and made me wear a tie. Posted by: Jamaica NYC

For the win!

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 04:52 AM (JwXG8)

37 Wondering if I remember how to tie a tie

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2022 05:00 AM (k8B25)

38 I'm skipping the 4000 series, and since I game at 1440p anyway, a RTX 3070 is in my near future. I'm currently on a RTX 2070, and it handles most things just fine. I just want to reset my hardware "clock."

Posted by: Unknownsailor at September 21, 2022 05:02 AM (emYfK)

39 Putin just escalated the war in Ukraine. He's mobilizing reserves.

https://tinyurl.com/3fezsjp8

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 05:03 AM (JwXG8)

40 Or trying not to lose, many have thought all summer if Putin's gambit doesn't work he is done

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2022 05:16 AM (k8B25)

41 Could be a long day for me, not good to be up since 2am

Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2022 05:19 AM (k8B25)

42
In further steps Putin has called for the assistance of poll watchers from Pennsylvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Nevada to oversee the referendum vote.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 21, 2022 05:25 AM (y3pKJ)

43 Almost chilly out

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 05:25 AM (k8B25)

44 29 Posted by: m at September 21, 2022 04:28 AM (GkGYg)
she is cute, adorable, and I love her. but at 2:30am, is less so. I acknowledge it is my fault, since volunteering to coach football at the local HS, i threw off our routine of walking, so she has more energy at sub-optimal times. when we would go for our daily walk, she was wore out the rest of the day.
Posted by: hubcap at September 21, 2022 04:32 AM (bIz+p)

It's when they're so excited to show us something, it's so heartwarming.

Posted by: m at September 21, 2022 05:26 AM (GkGYg)

45 Good morning morons

Local TV news reports two GSW victims outside Oakland City Hall mid-day yesterday.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 21, 2022 05:31 AM (EZebt)

46 Almost chilly out

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 05:25 AM (k8B25)

58 degrees here. It is great....summer is mostly over!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 21, 2022 05:32 AM (XIJ/X)

47 Well I did spend my birthday out of my house due to storm power outage trying to clean up my Chromebook, a Samsung, which I got sold on initially for battery life.
8-9 hours was REAL and it was a game-changer.
I didn't sour until Google locked someone out of their off-site storage over WrongThink.
I might have mentioned this before but due to factory work I still run Windows XP on a tower and laptop over legacy software which I do not want to give up.
Linux is a... well, you have to hate the alternatives.
Which i do, so it's a good fit for me. It's not an 'everyday for everyone' type of thing.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 21, 2022 05:38 AM (U11/V)

48 Lots of excitement among investors about electric airplanes. So far they claim they will be good for flights of about 200 miles. Anyone actually seen one yet?

Posted by: Colin at September 21, 2022 05:38 AM (XecMo)

49 "Hare Rama Hare Rama
Rama Rama Hare Hare
Hare Krishna Hare Krishna
Krishna Krishna Hare Hare"

'Buy a flower!'

Posted by: LenNeal at September 21, 2022 05:39 AM (U11/V)

50 @21

>>Electric airplane test linked over at Insty.

There is nothing on earth that would make me get on an electric plane.

The attempt to adopt all EV technology across all transport modalities is mass formation psychosis run amok.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 05:40 AM (up/3i)

51 Or, you could talk to Colt Python owners.
Holy shit.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 21, 2022 05:40 AM (U11/V)

52 I guess Roberts Industry has figured out an amazing cash flow business with Star Citizen. I never imagined how successful that part of it would be.

Posted by: Draki at September 21, 2022 05:41 AM (GXviE)

53 What is a GSW victim?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 05:42 AM (rJlE0)

54 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2022 05:43 AM (ju2Fy)

55 Colt Python owners: "It's a magical masterpiece of engineering and artistry!"
Me: "I've shot people with literal battlefield pickups. If it makes you somehow braver, cool, but whatevers."

Posted by: LenNeal at September 21, 2022 05:43 AM (U11/V)

56 Calling for close to 100 for the high today. Tomorrow's high 75.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2022 05:45 AM (ju2Fy)

57 Morning all.

I got a call from the guy that sold me my car last year March. I figured he was asking the how's the car questions or the dealership type questions.

Nope, he's moved on. Now working for ADT/Some solar company.
Wanted to know if I was interested in solar.
Would give me 25 dollars (he didn't say if it was actual cash or ...?) just for him to come out and talk to us.

Oh yeah, Hold me back Doggy Daddy.

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 05:45 AM (vd8XM)

58 GSW = Gun Shot Wound.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 05:46 AM (JwXG8)

59 Calling for close to 100 for the high today. Tomorrow's high 75.
Posted by: olddog in mo

It was 88 for a high here yesterday. Mid 70's today.
Tomorrow it will be a high of 61 GloBull warming degrees.

Yay Fall!

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 05:48 AM (vd8XM)

60 GSW = Gun Shot Wound.
Posted by: Lost In Space

Ahhhh. Thank you. I thought the Golden State Warriors were on a shooting spree.

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 05:49 AM (vd8XM)

61 Currently 67 in Las Cruces. High/Low today is 92/66. This is the best time of year anywhere in New Mexico.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 05:50 AM (JwXG8)

62 80 TFLOPS? That should render emails so fast! An internet explorer page should explode on the screen within minutes!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:50 AM (BI+67)

63 Ahhhh. Thank you. I thought the Golden State Warriors were on a shooting spree.Posted by: Bruce

They are. 2nd team.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 05:52 AM (JwXG8)

64 The gift-a Christian devotional from a man who is a metallurgist in the mining industry in Western Australia who enjoys classical music-particularly Bach:

https://tinyurl.com/4zcb24a5

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 05:53 AM (vH/6k)

65 Local TV news reports the CEO of Prologis was robbed at gunpoint in front of his SF home mid-day. So he decided to "speak out" and he got an email from the governor in reply! Its "almost embarrassing " he says. Gee golly.

Now that it happened to him we should be serious about crime.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 21, 2022 05:53 AM (EZebt)

66 The EV plane is preposterous it's max range is just 500 miles, it wouldn't be able to fly across two average states.

The low range EV plane would barely be able to fly from Montauk to Phillip, the high range EV would barely be able to fly from montauk to Pittsburgh.

It would have to "refuel" multiple times to go from Miami to Tallahassee.

This is madness.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 05:55 AM (up/3i)

67 It would have to "refuel" multiple times to go from Miami to Tallahassee.

This is madness.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

We will build, and you will fund, high speed runways to hub cities.
With recharging stations.

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 05:57 AM (vd8XM)

68 And one of the classical music selection which the metallurgist likes is Bach's Brandenburg concertos. This is a link for one of them-concerto number 3:

https://tinyurl.com/3tmfzwb6

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 05:57 AM (vH/6k)

69 how long to re-charge an electric plane?
let's hope the layover/charging airport has a decent passenger lounge

Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 05:57 AM (geLO8)

70 However, the activities of the BfV running hundreds of right-wing extremist accounts have come to light at the same time that Germany’s left-wing government has labeled right-wing extremism the biggest threat to the country, despite data showing that left-wing extremists and radical Islam pose bigger threats. The country’s interior minister, Nancy Faeser, has launched a 10-point plan to fight “right-wing extremism,” and much like the Biden administration in the United States, has turned the domestic security state against political opponents and labeled them terrorism threats and a danger to democracy. In Germany’s case, the opposition conservative Alternative for Germany party (AfD) is actively surveilled in certain federal states, with membership in the party the only prerequisite for agents being able to read emails and listen in on telephone calls of private citizens.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:57 AM (BI+67)

71 With the BfV operating hundreds of right-wing extremist accounts, the agency argues that it is about “playing a little right-wing radical yourself” in order to gain the trust of other users. The employees of the Office for the Protection of the Constitution are likely to conduct “propaganda” for this and sometimes also commit crimes such as “incitement to hatred.”

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:58 AM (BI+67)

72 yo wut sup

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2022 05:58 AM (BRHaw)

73 Germany’s Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV)

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:58 AM (BI+67)

74 Turns out one of the victims in Oakland died.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 21, 2022 05:59 AM (EZebt)

75 oh wow
electric trains! not the diesel electrics we have now, but real electric trains where the power comes thru the rails from giant transformers
it could work

Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 06:00 AM (geLO8)

76 Germany’s left-wing government has labeled right-wing extremism the biggest threat to the country, despite data showing that left-wing extremists and radical Islam pose bigger threats.

I'm beginning to see a trend here.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 21, 2022 06:02 AM (ju2Fy)

77 There is nothing on earth that would make me get on an electric plane.

The attempt to adopt all EV technology across all transport modalities is mass formation psychosis run amok.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 05:40 AM (up/3i)

I wonder how well an electric airship would work? Lower power needs. Lots of space to mount photoelectrics (seems to me I remember reading about a flexible photelectric skin type material.)

I just like airships.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 06:02 AM (dNqv+)

78 If you weren't here yesterday when he said this, NLUrker said that everything in his life is going badly. He didn't ask for prayer, but he is a person of faith, so if you are a person of religious faith and could pray for him, it sounds he needs rough places to be made smooth. Thx

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:02 AM (vH/6k)

79 And two more murdered Monday night in a drive-by at Muslim restaurant in Oakland. That makes 4 total for the day.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 21, 2022 06:05 AM (EZebt)

80 78 If you weren't here yesterday when he said this, NLUrker said that everything in his life is going badly. He didn't ask for prayer, but he is a person of faith, so if you are a person of religious faith and could pray for him, it sounds he needs rough places to be made smooth. Thx
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:02 AM (vH/6k)

Of course, Fen. I think he is ok, just going through a rough patch. Dudes are different and respond differently.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 06:05 AM (dNqv+)

81 The Food and Drug Administration has finally acknowledged its response to the US infant formula shortage was caused by a number of problems.

The agency said these included delays in processing a whistleblower complaint about bacterially tainted baby formula from the nation's largest formula factory.

That contamination is believed to have led to the illness of four infants, and the deaths of two.

The FDA seem to have not accepted The Science as it was proven at a genetic level the bacteria that made the babies sick and the bacteria found at the plant are different.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2022 06:07 AM (BRHaw)

82 Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 06:05 AM (dNqv+)

I actually have known some dudes in real life.

and it's o.k. to pray for them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:08 AM (vH/6k)

83 Electric airplanes...I remember there was once an idea of having airships dock on the top of the Empire State Building. Or the helicopters flying from the (at the time) Pan Am building. Stuff you read about as a kid of all the wonders coming in the future, and never heard of them again.
Ceiling fans should propel the airliner with solar panels for power, right? As one environmentalist proposed, who has probably a degree in gender studies.

Posted by: Colin at September 21, 2022 06:08 AM (XecMo)

84 I actually have known some dudes in real life. and it's o.k. to pray for them.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:08 AM (vH/6k)

It is. It is just they do not always respond the same to overt encouragement and support.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 06:09 AM (dNqv+)

85 Fen I am

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 06:09 AM (ajWby)

86 "And sometimes Euroweenies just fight among themselves."

Watch out for that. I thought they were a bunch of butt fucking dick sucking skirt wearing faggots who couldn't do War anymore until I went there in the 1990s, and if they're a bunch of sissies and mincing queers who don't fuck women, they sure as shit love to kill each other. And you too, if you happen to be dumb enough to get in their way.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 21, 2022 06:09 AM (U11/V)

87 Sometimes when you think things leftists say couldn't get any stupider-electric planes?!!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:10 AM (vH/6k)

88 IMO the only electric aircraft that seems to be worth anything is the Aerolight 103 EV.
Saw it at Sun and Fun last year, and it apparently flew for about 45 minutes or so.

Posted by: Deet at September 21, 2022 06:10 AM (G5Nsu)

89 Sometimes when you think things leftists say couldn't get any stupider-electric planes?!!
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Electric nuclear plants!

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 06:10 AM (vd8XM)

90 @81

>>The FDA seem to have not accepted The Science as it was proven at a genetic level the bacteria that made the babies sick and the bacteria found at the plant are different.

The baby formula storage was brought about by an amok, out of control, power tripping agency, the fact that it's still going on and has largely fallen out of the public spotlight is telling.

It's even more telling that many donk women seemed to be more motivated and agitated by the fact that their ability to murder their infants has been constrained rather than being able to feed them.

Sad.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 06:11 AM (up/3i)

91 >Electric airplanes...I remember there was once an idea of having airships dock on the top of the Empire State Building.

right- the idea was, the airship hooks on to the spire at the top of the ES Bldg, a stairway from the airship to the building roof is extended, and passengers would descent the staircase, a thousand feet in the air, down to the building

yeah
and it would have worked too, til that giant ape changed all those plans

Posted by: DB at September 21, 2022 06:12 AM (geLO8)

92 Saw it at Sun and Fun last year, and it apparently flew for about 45 minutes or so.
Posted by: Deet

I've taxied in a plane for that long at O'hare after landing.
I guess the plane was trying to find a parking spot

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 06:12 AM (vd8XM)

93 So I hit the wrong button on my phone and it doesn't save any information from the past such as "autofill". Do I just go into settings to correct this?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:13 AM (vH/6k)

94 I threw a vote at Trump 001 because he wasn't Hillary Clinton and I had talked to a Balkan liaison working in Libya who described HC as, I quote, "The Bride Of The Devil."
Trump 002 I voted for enthusiastically as he said, 'Fuck all those fucking foreigners, let's do US, you know, let's take care of our own house, for a while."
Down with that, having experienced all those other motherfuckers.
But Noooooo.

Posted by: LenNeal at September 21, 2022 06:13 AM (U11/V)

95 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 21, 2022 06:17 AM (u82oZ)

96 I spent a few Christmas Eve mornings with my mother at AT&T Long Lines in White Plains. I played with the punch card machines and the green and white striped printer paper. My dad took me to IBM in Poughkeepsie and made me wear a tie.
Posted by: Jamaica NYC at September 21, 2022

***
I never saw where my father worked and, except for a time in the early Sixties when he was out at the Michoud assembly plant (bookkeeper, not rocket scientist), I have no idea where he worked.

Mom was an RN who did private duty, so she was at various hospitals at different times. I did get to see Charity Hospital when I was 10 and cracked a bone in my foot. But I don't recall anybody saying hi to her.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:20 AM (c6xtn)

97
Good morning, Hordians. Up, dressed, morning prayers said, sitting on the porch watching the puppies in their pen. They sleepily wake up, shuffle outside and do their business. In a little while they'll be running around like lunatics trying to kill each other.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2022 06:22 AM (1Nxff)

98 Tactical puppy picture:

https://tinyurl.com/yc2tzbfz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:23 AM (vH/6k)

99 LenNeal

I like the word Pragmatist. That allows us to look at results, not rhetoric or mass formation psychosis.

Trump got results that 70 years of Deep State would not. And I have suffered due to the Left. Unlike under Trump. He is not at all a person to venerate, like the Left and bho, but he did a lot of good in 3 years.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 21, 2022 06:24 AM (u82oZ)

100 Currently 67 in Las Cruces. High/Low today is 92/66. This is the best time of year anywhere in New Mexico.
Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022

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Sounds great, LiS. Has your governor lifted her (?) boot off your neck about shots and face diapers?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:24 AM (c6xtn)

101 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2022 06:22 AM (1Nxff)

Send some more pictures for the pet thread!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:24 AM (vH/6k)

102 LenNeal

Cult of Personality is not my thing.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 21, 2022 06:25 AM (u82oZ)

103 Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 06:09 AM (ajWby)

Thanks, Skip's phone.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:27 AM (vH/6k)

104 And this dump will his about 94 today, with a low around 80. Gah.

If it weren't for F. Joe's lousy economy, making me fear I won't be able to live on my SS + retirement, I'd already have made some trips to favorite places and would be deciding where to move. W. Virginia still looks good and is a red state (right?). Texas and Florida, too hot for too much of the year. WI and SD, will I be able to afford heat in the winter? And so forth.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:29 AM (c6xtn)

105 Texas and Florida, too hot for too much of the year. WI and SD, will I be able to afford heat in the winter? And so forth.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

A motorhome?

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 06:30 AM (vd8XM)

106 Dagny the Siberian kitten loves paper towels. She seizes them like toys, savages them, and brings them in her jaws up onto the couch, where she kicks and thrashes her prey.

Earlier this am she relaxed and sat with me and on my lap, and that was cool. But she's revving to redline again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:31 AM (c6xtn)

107 Texas and Florida, too hot for too much of the year. WI and SD, will I be able to afford heat in the winter? And so forth.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
*
A motorhome?
Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022

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Never have looked into that. Have you done it? What's it like?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:32 AM (c6xtn)

108 I think we got this story before-a least the details-People complaining about noise next door to them, but here are more happy details and a picture:

tinyurl.com/yc2tzbfz

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:33 AM (vH/6k)

109 Never have looked into that. Have you done it? What's it like?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I've thought about it. Don't know that much on the pluses and minuses.

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 06:38 AM (vd8XM)

110 I think we got this story before-a least the details-People complaining about noise next door to them, but here are more happy details and a picture:

tinyurl.com/yc2tzbfz
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

The link is the tactical puppy picture

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 06:39 AM (vd8XM)

111 Never have looked into that. Have you done it? What's it like?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I've thought about it. Don't know that much on the pluses and minuses.
Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022

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True, a motorhome costs less than a house (I hope) and would allow me to move around. I'm sure the cost of fuel and of electric hookups (if that's the way it works) would be bad -- but maybe better than utilities for a house.

The cats might or might not like it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:41 AM (c6xtn)

112 When I heard that the DOJ enthusiastically endorsed the appointment of "Special Master" Raymond Dearie, the first thought that crossed my mind was, "I wonder how many pictures they have of Dearie having sex with children."

These thugs are only comfortable when everyone involved is somehow compromised.

Posted by: Sam Adams at September 21, 2022 06:42 AM (VDbGO)

113 I guess Wintermute proves some people still believe in farting unicorns.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2022 06:45 AM (JTIXu)

114 County Precinct Voters Bad Address or Name Voters
BEXAR 777 1195336 138221 over 10%
DALLAS 876 1389510 72683 over 5%
EL PASO 222 495098 42672 10%
HARRIS 1166 2507991 91473 4%

Statewide: 17183996 1239812 Around 7%

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2022 06:45 AM (BRHaw)

115 The link is the tactical puppy picture
Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 06:39 AM (vd8XM)

Whoops; Sorry. I'll find the correct link.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:45 AM (vH/6k)

116 Have a great day, everyone.

May Fall be soon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 21, 2022 06:45 AM (u82oZ)

117 I'm about to send an "I'll be out sick today, sorry" note to my boss. Here's hoping the city council guy actually shows up. I don't want to do this again.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:46 AM (c6xtn)

118 True, a motorhome costs less than a house (I hope) and would allow me to move around. I'm sure the cost of fuel and of electric hookups (if that's the way it works) would be bad -- but maybe better than utilities for a house.

The cats might or might not like it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I watched a couple of Prime series on narrowboats in England. You can live full time on them. Mooring can be hit or miss and the length you can stay can vary.

After 4 years or so one of the guys decided to go back to a regular house. He misses the stability and with getting older he didn't want to be in the middle of a canal somewhere without medical.

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 06:46 AM (vd8XM)

119 The idea of a motorhome is strangely appealing. How does getting electric power, A/C and heat, work?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:47 AM (c6xtn)

120 Noisy neighbors. Nice pictures. Corrected link:

https://tinyurl.com/2p8uwx5n

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:47 AM (vH/6k)

121 Sounds great, LiS. Has your governor lifted her (?) boot off your neck about shots and face diapers?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

That happened about a year ago. I think it's because she knew she was running for reelection in 2022. She's evil.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022 06:47 AM (JwXG8)

122 "The Windows 11 2022 update is in the wild"

Let me guess. They moved the Start button to the upper right corner of the screen.

Posted by: fd at September 21, 2022 06:47 AM (sn5EN)

123 105 Texas and Florida, too hot for too much of the year. WI and SD, will I be able to afford heat in the winter? And so forth.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

A motorhome?
Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 06:30 AM (vd8XM)

Virginia is beautiful...and with our voting fixed for at least the next 4 years, the insanity will be low...

Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022 06:48 AM (exHjb)

124 @112

>>These thugs are only comfortable when everyone involved is somehow compromised.

The selection of one of the FISA judges that approved the warrant against Carter Page to be a special master is simply more of the Panopticon pan-opti-conning.

It truly is sad that Trump, still, after all that has been done to him, does not seem to comprehend the powers arrayed against him and thinks he can muscle his way through this.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 06:50 AM (up/3i)

125 The idea of a motorhome is strangely appealing. How does getting electric power, A/C and heat, work?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

There are a lot of motor home parks that people travel to and from. Full hook ups with electric for the AC and heat.
I think that some even have a hook up for "The Hose" to take away the poopage.
If not, you probably drive to the dump site and offload.

Because of my height, I'm thinking I would be a bit cramped in most of the travel vehicles.

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 06:50 AM (vd8XM)

126
That happened about a year ago. I think it's because she knew she was running for reelection in 2022. She's evil.
Posted by: Lost In Space at September 21, 2022

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Evil + reelection = more boot on neck. A shame, as NM is so great.

Virginia would prob. be terrific too, but i'll bet housing is expensive even in more rural areas. WV has the advantage, for me, of being a poor state.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:50 AM (c6xtn)

127 On the other hand, it's apparently fun to play and fans are happy to keep throwing money at it. They're not lying, they're not stealing, and as far as I know they're not pretending an ugly monkey JPEG is worth a quarter million dollars.

The people writing Star Citizen are making all the classic software development mistakes. They're behind and can't make a deadline, and instead of stripping out some features, or keeping the same features but pushing the deadline (both of which upset customers), they push the deadline and then promise even more features.

They've been doing it for years, and there's simply no way they can deliver what they've promised.

Posted by: Ace's liver at September 21, 2022 06:51 AM (wGeit)

128 Good morning all. I had to drive through a thunderstorm to get to work today. Fun. It's supposed to hit 90 today - Summer's last hurrah. Tomorrow is fall and it will be in the 60s.

Global warmening and coolering I guess...

Posted by: Rosasharn at September 21, 2022 06:52 AM (yEBFM)

129 There are a lot of motor home parks that people travel to and from. Full hook ups with electric for the AC and heat.
I think that some even have a hook up for "The Hose" to take away the poopage.
If not, you probably drive to the dump site and offload.

Because of my height, I'm thinking I would be a bit cramped in most of the travel vehicles.
Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022

***
Interesting to think about.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:52 AM (c6xtn)

130 Good morning. I got up way too early b/c I'm taking my kids on our last "free" DC field trip of the month today (last Friday's reschedule of the US Botanic Gardens followed by the Smithsonian Museum of the American Indian for the air-conditioned indoor spot to eat our packed lunch).

For the 1st time, I'm going spouse-less with the kids, so of course, I worried about missing the VRE train...

I'm gonna collapse tonight, I think...

PS - Note to folks. If you ever move here and want to work in DC, ride the VRE, never the Metro. The VRE is what fed-land rides to work, and thus, it stays very clean and very safe for a public transport service. It helps the ticket takers literally walk the train.

Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022 06:52 AM (exHjb)

131 They've been doing it for years, and there's simply no way they can deliver what they've promised.
Posted by: Ace's liver at September 21, 2022 06:51 AM (wGeit)

They're making hay while the sun shines. I'd say they are more aware of the issues than the people giving them money, at least.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 06:52 AM (5r4XQ)

132 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at September 21, 2022 06:53 AM (UqnOO)

133 Boker Tov Patriots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 21, 2022 06:53 AM (AfPp1)

134 Pixy, I’m probably crazy, but I purchases an ASUS Strix 3090 ti this weeks for $1299. Setting aside I had the money and wanted one. I got it because I don’t believe the new 40 series would be available for reasonable prices for 6 months. Maybe the 30’s would have dropped more, but the previous 2 generations didn’t (but then, mining was a thing). As I haven’t received the new card yet, I suppose I can return it. I’m interested in the MSFS 2020 performance and 2x sounds good but want to see it.

Posted by: Leland at September 21, 2022 06:53 AM (7qi7N)

135 May Fall be soon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 21, 2022 06:45 AM (u82oZ)

Thursday...9:04 PM EST

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2022 06:54 AM (AwYPR)

136 Global warmening and coolering I guess...
Posted by: Rosasharn

Funny how that works.
If it doesn't stay at the average temp, wind, precipitation levels as prior years it's CO2's fault.

That's not how averages work ya bastards.

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 06:54 AM (vd8XM)

137 Evil + reelection = more boot on neck. A shame, as NM is so great.

Virginia would prob. be terrific too, but i'll bet housing is expensive even in more rural areas. WV has the advantage, for me, of being a poor state.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:50 AM (c6xtn)

Somewhat - FBI is building a huge training center in Wheeling, WV, so some areas will be expensive and some cheap...kinda like VA. And VA has the much better weather thanks to the mountains being mostly in WV. It can get damn cold in WV...not so much here...

Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022 06:54 AM (exHjb)

138 Thomas Bender,

It is corrupt beyond comprehension. Don't know how our nation can recover from this. It is fraud without end, masquerading as "Justice."

Our FBI/DOJ is packed with pedos and crooks. Dearie is just one of the birds of a feather.

Posted by: Sam Adams at September 21, 2022 06:58 AM (VDbGO)

139 "Note to folks. If you ever move here and want to work in DC..."
___

rofl

Thanks for the early morning chuckle.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 06:59 AM (A00u7)

140 I would imagine living in an RV fulltime would be like the tiny house thing. Get you used to having nothing and living in a closet. I couldn't do it. I need my "stuff". (family antiques, my Dad's paintings and carvings, 11 shelves full of books...)

Posted by: Rosasharn at September 21, 2022 06:59 AM (yEBFM)

141 You kids be good. I'm out.

Posted by: Sam Adams at September 21, 2022 07:00 AM (VDbGO)

142 What you’re seeing is a society that hates children,” Tucker Carlson said in his Monday night monologue, as The Hill reported.

“You would have to hate children in order to sexualize them. Because sexualizing children screws them up for life. Ask anyone to whom it has happened, period,” Carlson added.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2022 07:00 AM (BRHaw)

143 Breakfast time.
Meeting a buddy for lunch at a tiki bar on by a lake.
Probably the last time for the year. They will close for the season soon.

Have a good one all.

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 07:01 AM (vd8XM)

144 If it wasn’t for the Democrats’ open-border policies, Deputy Alexis Hein-Nutz, 24, might would still be alive today.

Deputy Hein-Nutz was riding her motorcycle to her job at the Weld County, Colo., jail on Sunday when Octavio Gonzalez-Garcia, an illegal immigrant in his late 30s, blew a stop sign, causing Hein-Nutz to strike the front passenger side of the van Gonzalez-Garcia was driving. Gonzalez-Garcia took off running as Hein-Nutz’s motorcycle burned and Hein-Nutz lay dying.

IF IT SAVES JUST ONE LIFE.

End all immigration for 30 years!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2022 07:01 AM (BRHaw)

145 And VA has the much better weather thanks to the mountains being mostly in WV. It can get damn cold in WV...not so much here...
Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022

***
After decades in this Congo river basin, having some winter is strangely attractive to me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 07:01 AM (c6xtn)

146 I would imagine living in an RV fulltime would be like the tiny house thing. Get you used to having nothing and living in a closet. I couldn't do it. I need my "stuff". (family antiques, my Dad's paintings and carvings, 11 shelves full of books...)
Posted by: Rosasharn

That is one of the downsides.

Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 07:01 AM (vd8XM)

147 And, in the interest of actual productive advice, the best deal for storage off a hard drive, is HP 10-packs of USBs. About -$30@10, it's a terrific way to do it. Only problem is they all look the same so invest in paint markers, a file system of some kind involving a list, and a tackle box.
Posted by: LenNeal at September 21, 2022 04:10 AM

If you're serious, here's a suggestion: Instead of a tacklebox, use a hardware (as in nails and screws) drawer system you can mount on the wall. I put a small one in my office closet. Great for storing mechanical pencil lead packs, too.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 21, 2022 07:02 AM (/+bwe)

148 Good morning everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 07:02 AM (LsEU/)

149 I would imagine living in an RV fulltime would be like the tiny house thing. Get you used to having nothing and living in a closet. I couldn't do it. I need my "stuff". (family antiques, my Dad's paintings and carvings, 11 shelves full of books...)
Posted by: Rosasharn at September 21, 2022

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Yeah, I don't think I have enough room in the current 1-BR apartment.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 07:02 AM (c6xtn)

150 End all immigration for 30 years!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2022

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Then extend it for another 20. Or maybe more.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 07:03 AM (c6xtn)

151 Did you see the story about the gal who lives in a 80 sq ft apartment in NYC? It's a closet, but sure call it an apartment.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 21, 2022 07:04 AM (J+nFa)

152 139 "Note to folks. If you ever move here and want to work in DC..."
___

rofl

Thanks for the early morning chuckle.
Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 06:59 AM (A00u7)

Maybe I should have written "need"

.

To be fair, after 2024, we're gonna need folks to fall in that "want" category, or we'll have the same mess again!

Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022 07:04 AM (exHjb)

153 My wife and I couldn't do RV living due to the bathroom being right on top of everything else. Only one is simply not enough.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 07:05 AM (LsEU/)

154 Good morning Tonypete!

Posted by: Rosasharn at September 21, 2022 07:05 AM (yEBFM)

155 I think Wintermute was the name of an AI in a William Gibson novel.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at September 21, 2022 07:05 AM (8oyo2)

156 New Mexico has always been a shithole, save the few touristy enclaves in the north of the state. The trip across I 10 is like purgatory and living in a place like Las Cruces you truly get the peace and understanding diversity experience of La Raza unbound.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at September 21, 2022 07:05 AM (oWBc3)

157 145 And VA has the much better weather thanks to the mountains being mostly in WV. It can get damn cold in WV...not so much here...
Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022

***
After decades in this Congo river basin, having some winter is strangely attractive to me.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 07:01 AM (c6xtn)

"Some" winter is good. VA gets "some" winter. WV gets "lots" of bone-crushing cold winter...plus, they get to deal with it while driving crappy mountain roads.

VA only has state-wide snow plows. That's how you know winter is "some"...

Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022 07:06 AM (exHjb)

158 Hey there Rosasharn!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 07:06 AM (LsEU/)

159 @144

>>End all immigration for 30 years!

That ship sailed a long time ago, there isn't any practical way to get the the UniParty to do this, both parties created the system we have today, it benefits their ideologies and paymasters and is never changing.

At the rate The Junta is moving, we will have an additional 12 plus million illegals in this country by Inauguration Day 2025.

The nation is dead, it died in 2012, what we have been living through for the last decade is a dead cat bounce, we ain't making it to 2025 let alone 2035 when we're all supposed to be driving EV's.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 07:09 AM (up/3i)

160 The process of developing SARS-COV2 was also described in detail in the proposal submitted to, and ultimately funded by, the National Institutes of Health (HHS NIH), The National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), by EcoHealth Alliance with the WIV and [University of North Carolina] listed as collaborators,.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2022 07:11 AM (BRHaw)

161 VA only has state-wide snow plows. That's how you know winter is "some"...
Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022

***
Where should I look for inexpensive housing? I warn you, I think 150K is expensive. Eighteen months ago I was looking on Zillow at Parkersburg and other smaller places in WV, and I saw some *very* nice small houses for less than 100K. I'm sure that's changed, but is VA much worse?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 07:11 AM (c6xtn)

162 @151

>>Did you see the story about the gal who lives in a 80 sq ft apartment in NYC? It's a closet, but sure call it an apartment.

If it's the apartment I'm thinking about, it's 650 bucks a month, which regardless of the size, is about 2000 dollars below what a closet would cost you anywhere in Manhattan.

She must have done favors on the side or had a connection to score that apartment.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 07:12 AM (up/3i)

163 161 VA only has state-wide snow plows. That's how you know winter is "some"...
Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022

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Where should I look for inexpensive housing? I warn you, I think 150K is expensive. Eighteen months ago I was looking on Zillow at Parkersburg and other smaller places in WV, and I saw some *very* nice small houses for less than 100K. I'm sure that's changed, but is VA much worse?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 07:11 AM (c6xtn)

If I was looking in that range, I'd rule out NOVA. But, I might look down in the VA Tech area suburbs/rural land (SW VA), and all down that western line of the state around the I-81 line and west. Just don't get too close to VA Tech b/c then you get the college liberal influence (if you're looking to avoid it)...

Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022 07:16 AM (exHjb)

164 Where should I look for inexpensive housing? I warn you, I think 150K is expensive. Eighteen months ago I was looking on Zillow at Parkersburg and other smaller places in WV, and I saw some *very* nice small houses for less than 100K. I'm sure that's changed, but is VA much worse?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 07:11 AM (c6xtn)

If I was looking in that range, I'd rule out NOVA. But, I might look down in the VA Tech area suburbs/rural land (SW VA), and all down that western line of the state around the I-81 line and west. Just don't get too close to VA Tech b/c then you get the college liberal influence (if you're looking to avoid it)...
Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022 07:16 AM (exHjb)

PS - You could also look around Danville in the southern center of the state - aka, the lands not near the highways b/c they are pretty rural and probably in the price range...

Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022 07:17 AM (exHjb)

165 Living in an RV will test your compatibility with your spouse. If they can't deal with you getting up at 1 and 6AM to go to the bathroom, there will be problems.

If I was going to live in an RV permanently, it would have to be a 40 footer or more. Our little coach at 26 feet is fine for trips, but there is little privacy anywhere in it.

Posted by: fd at September 21, 2022 07:17 AM (sn5EN)

166 Add me to the Microsoft-enjoyers. Since the pandemic, Google has made its documents more like Microsoft Office and better at converting docs without screwing up formats and accents, but it can't hold a candle to Outlook for organization or PowerPoint for incorporating different media in a presentation.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at September 21, 2022 07:18 AM (/+bwe)

167 I would imagine the best prices on homes are ones that are out in the middle of nowhere. I've seen some beautiful homes in very small towns that normal people can afford. Nowhere touristy, of course, and nowhere within an hour's commute of a large city.

Or, you could travel back in time and get a nice house for $70k in the 80s...

Posted by: Rosasharn at September 21, 2022 07:20 AM (yEBFM)

168 PS - You could also look around Danville in the southern center of the state - aka, the lands not near the highways b/c they are pretty rural and probably in the price range...

Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022 07:17 AM (exHjb)

Spent some time in the area...other than Danville, lots of small towns...I mean SMALL....Milton NC small.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2022 07:21 AM (AwYPR)

169 The sheriff in San Antonio is saying we just should deal with it when it comes to illegals and let them work - and of course pay taxes. How about you just do your job?

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at September 21, 2022 07:21 AM (oWBc3)

170 Paid $345 for my laptop a few years ago.
Think I'll wait for the prices to come down
before I buy another.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 21, 2022 07:21 AM (C2nn9)

171 Living in an RV will test your compatibility with your spouse. If they can't deal with you getting up at 1 and 6AM to go to the bathroom, there will be problems.
___

Lived in one for over a year.

That was enough for me.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 07:22 AM (A00u7)

172 Oh gosh. Poor Sasha Obama is turning into her mom. The pics on the DM are not flattering, no matter how much they tout her taunt fashion sense.

Posted by: fd at September 21, 2022 07:22 AM (sn5EN)

173 CBS news covering the Georgia races. I love this shit. It is interesting how they frame the stories. Nothing about Warnock at all, but talking about how Walker has had to do damage control on various statements about his 'past'. Abrams is characterized as warm, normal and relatable and not at all a communist nutbar.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 21, 2022 07:23 AM (5r4XQ)

174 The sheriff in San Antonio is saying we just should deal with it when it comes to illegals and let them work - and of course pay taxes. How about you just do your job?

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at September 21, 2022 07:21 AM (oWBc3)

I noticed he's a "4 star" with cavalry sabres.

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2022 07:24 AM (AwYPR)

175 Okay, gonna have to pull the trip bag together and get out of here...hope everyone has a great day, and I'm out for awhile!

Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022 07:25 AM (exHjb)

176 I noticed he's a "4 star" with cavalry sabres.
Posted by: BignJames
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How tacticool.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 07:25 AM (A00u7)

177 My >5 year old thinkpad just survived a drop out of a ceiling with nary more than some minor case cracking and busted speakers.

Think I'm gonna stick with thinkpad for my next laptop. Performance means effectively zero to me for a field service laptop, robustness does.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 07:26 AM (6FeV1)

178 176 I noticed he's a "4 star" with cavalry sabres.
Posted by: BignJames
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How tacticool.
Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 07:25 AM (A00u7)

At a certain point, these police uniforms are tantamount to stolen valor.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 07:27 AM (6FeV1)

179 @169

>> let them work.

Let them work where? Roughly 3 million poorly educated, serfs have streamed across the border, how many chicken plants and lawns can that many people service?

These people largely go on the dole, and are a ,massive net negative, but somebodies making bank on all of this and it surely ain't you and me.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 07:27 AM (up/3i)

180 I would imagine the best prices on homes are ones that are out in the middle of nowhere. I've seen some beautiful homes in very small towns that normal people can afford. Nowhere touristy, of course, and nowhere within an hour's commute of a large city.

Or, you could travel back in time and get a nice house for $70k in the 80s...
Posted by: Rosasharn at September 21, 2022

***
I wouldn't mind living far out now, if I could get good internet. But I'm a bit over 29. I'd need access to medical services, and someplace to work on my car.

If I could zip back in time, I'd grab an Art Deco-style house built in the '20s or '30s, but which was out of style in the '60s and on the market for a fire-sale price. Get it air-conditioned and insulated, and off I'd go.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 07:27 AM (c6xtn)

181 I would imagine the best prices on homes are ones that are out in the middle of nowhere. I've seen some beautiful homes in very small towns that normal people can afford. Nowhere touristy, of course, and nowhere within an hour's commute of a large city.

Confirmed.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 07:28 AM (3hSHB)

182 174 176 He wanted to go with lightning bolts but somebody clued him in. Black uniform and all. So it was the sabres.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 07:28 AM (lz5hY)

183 I noticed he's a "4 star" with cavalry sabres.
Posted by: BignJames
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How tacticool.
Posted by: SMH

At a certain point, these police uniforms are tantamount to stolen valor.
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Are there guys in his department that wear three stars? Or, for that matter, two or one stars?

Didn't think so.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 07:29 AM (LsEU/)

184 At a certain point, these police uniforms are tantamount to stolen valor.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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As far as I'm concerned, they are.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 07:30 AM (A00u7)

185 fucking genius!
We invested an additional $12 billion into community banks, because we know community banks are in the community, and understand the needs and desires of that community as well as the talent and capacity of community.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2022 07:30 AM (BRHaw)

186 "Lived in one for over a year.
That was enough for me.
Posted by: SMH"

Did you ever get it stuck somewhere and have to work together to get the RV pulled out? Dealing with that situation with your spouse is an exercise in civility. I can't just order Mrs fd around, I have to diplomatically suggest that a solution to our problem may involve shovels and coordinating our efforts to achieve an acceptable degree of mobility again.

Posted by: fd at September 21, 2022 07:31 AM (sn5EN)

187 I would imagine the best prices on homes are ones that are out in the middle of nowhere. I've seen some beautiful homes in very small towns that normal people can afford. Nowhere touristy, of course, and nowhere within an hour's commute of a large city.
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Yep.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 07:31 AM (A00u7)

188 I've taxied in a plane for that long at O'hare after landing.
I guess the plane was trying to find a parking spot
Posted by: Bruce at September 21, 2022 06:12 AM

We live less than 3 miles, as the crow files, from O'hare. Anytime you land earlier than scheduled you get the grand tour of the grounds. I think I could walk home faster than it takes to get to a gate.

Posted by: Cicero Skip at September 21, 2022 07:31 AM (FIrEF)

189 Sheriff departments in Ohio have generally the same uniform, with western cut shirt and cowboy style hat. Guess they all think they're the law west of the Cuyahoga.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 07:31 AM (lz5hY)

190 Netherlands Bach Society does them better.

https://youtu.be/fcht5_N-ycE

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 21, 2022 07:33 AM (uz3Px)

191 Did you ever get it stuck somewhere and have to work together to get the RV pulled out? Dealing with that situation with your spouse is an exercise in civility. I can't just order Mrs fd around, I have to diplomatically suggest that a solution to our problem may involve shovels and coordinating our efforts to achieve an acceptable degree of mobility again.
Posted by: fd
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We were both in the Army when we met, and had to work together on many a mechanical/technical job, so not much of an issue.
Getting stuck also wasn't an issue, since it never happened.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 07:33 AM (A00u7)

192 I wouldn't mind living far out now, if I could get good internet. But I'm a bit over 29. I'd need access to medical services, and someplace to work on my car.

Several hundred feet of private lake front acreage, custom brick just under 3000sqft, with a tall 1400 sqft metal shop where a standard mortgage payment would be less than a rent payment for a

Gig speed broadband, can see the milky way at night, though probably a bit too far from a hospital to survive a heart attack.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 07:34 AM (3hSHB)

193 I always get a kick out of seeing the police uniforms that look like they come from Gestapo-R-Us.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at September 21, 2022 07:34 AM (J+nFa)

194 I'm out before the big kids get in and it gets ugly. Everyone have an amazing day and share the candy. Later...

Posted by: Rosasharn at September 21, 2022 07:34 AM (yEBFM)

195 payment would be less than a ... rent payment for a hovel in Austin, Dallas or Houston.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 07:35 AM (3hSHB)

196 193 NJ and MA state cops, especially the motorcycle guys with the riding boots.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 21, 2022 07:36 AM (lz5hY)

197 You can't play dress-up like some kind of war hero while simultaneously refusing to put yourself in harm's way. Yeah, a cop might get shot at. So might I. So might anyone. But i don't pin a fucking medal on my chest over it, because i don't have any responsibility to put myself in danger. And if these cops refuse that responsibility too, while a school full of kids gets shot up by a psycho or whatever it is, then why allow them to festoon themselves with insignia of valor anyways? Just so we plebs all know Who's In F*cking Charge?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 07:36 AM (6FeV1)

198 I always get a kick out of seeing the police uniforms that look like they come from Gestapo-R-Us.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

That reminds me - why, whenever a public official of any type talks to the public at a podium, they have an army of folks behind them?

What purpose does it serve? It looks foolish to me.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 07:36 AM (LsEU/)

199 "Getting stuck also wasn't an issue, since it never happened.
Posted by: SMH "

Oh. So none of that "You got it stuck, you get it out", and "I told you not to go down that gravel road that turned to mud" stuff huh?

Posted by: fd at September 21, 2022 07:37 AM (sn5EN)

200

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 21, 2022 07:38 AM (SWi3y)

201 then why allow them to festoon themselves with insignia of valor anyways? Just so we plebs all know Who's In F*cking Charge?

So you prefer them in plain clothes or a variation of a McDonald's uniform?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 07:38 AM (3hSHB)

202 President Joe Biden is set to miss a United Nations roundtable on climate action Wednesday afternoon in New York, stoking concern that other G-7 leaders will also forgo the session meant to help pave the way for international global warming negotiations later this year.

no one really cares with 10% inflation

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2022 07:39 AM (BRHaw)

203 What purpose does it serve? It looks foolish to me.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 07:36 AM (LsEU/)

They think that if they just stood at a podium alone and talked, they'd look stupid. They're right.

They think adding support in the background makes them look not stupid. They're wrong.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 07:40 AM (6FeV1)

204 #1 son pays twice my mortgage payment for a one bedroom apartment in Atlanta. There is more room in just one of my outbuildings. Now he does live less than five miles from work, but he has to go into the office only a couple of times a month.

Posted by: fd at September 21, 2022 07:40 AM (sn5EN)

205 That reminds me - why, whenever a public official of any type talks to the public at a podium, they have an army of folks behind them?

What purpose does it serve? It looks foolish to me.

I'm relieved to see that they are busy standing there like a phalanx of war rather than running speed traps.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 07:40 AM (3hSHB)

206 #1 son pays twice my mortgage payment for a one bedroom apartment in Atlanta. There is more room in just one of my outbuildings. Now he does live less than five miles from work, but he has to go into the office only a couple of times a month.

Fortunately, my commute to work is about the same distance from the bedroom to the kitchen.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 07:41 AM (3hSHB)

207 JJ

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 21, 2022 07:41 AM (BRHaw)

208 So you prefer them in plain clothes or a variation of a McDonald's uniform?
Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 07:38 AM (3hSHB)

Yeah. Right. That's exactly what i mean. Piss off.

You realize that it is possible to wear a serious uniform without pretending you're George Patton's left testicle?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 07:42 AM (6FeV1)

209 Oh. So none of that "You got it stuck, you get it out", and "I told you not to go down that gravel road that turned to mud" stuff huh?
Posted by: fd
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Nope.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 07:42 AM (A00u7)

210 They think that if they just stood at a podium alone and talked, they'd look stupid. They're right.

They think adding support in the background makes them look not stupid. They're wrong.

The Wall makes it appear something other than one guy mouthing off. Every thug needs his posse.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 07:42 AM (3hSHB)

211 You realize that it is possible to wear a serious uniform without pretending you're George Patton's left testicle?
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This made me laugh way more than it should.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 07:43 AM (A00u7)

212 185 fucking genius!
We invested an additional $12 billion into community banks, because we know community banks are in the community, and understand the needs and desires of that community as well as the talent and capacity of community.
Posted by: rhennigantx
-------------------------------

Betting all the banks are big city.
Another example of the FedGov adulterating the natural growth of big cities.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 21, 2022 07:44 AM (C2nn9)

213 If you're going to try to pull off a reductio ad absurdum, your reductio has to actually work.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 07:45 AM (6FeV1)

214 You realize that it is possible to wear a serious uniform without pretending you're George Patton's left testicle?

Well, it helps in court to persuade juries, it establishes pecking order of rank and authority on the street, and it boosts morale of those who value recognition.

chest salad is cheaper than a raise, bonus or door prize. the officers often are unionized so you can't have merit pay. Doesn't leave much in the way of options to recognize achievement.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 07:45 AM (3hSHB)

215 Doesn't leave much in the way of options to recognize achievement.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 21, 2022 07:45 AM (3hSHB)

That's the crux of the argument, i suppose. It's about all the military insignia and design cues incorporated into their uniform that doesn't signify achievements at all, but rather "I'm a cop and i can ruin your day".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 07:48 AM (6FeV1)

216 Town of 1200 with fiber internet and a medical clinic. Bigger town of 20000 is 22 miles away. Nicer house across the street was for sale at $69,000. Mine was $28,000.

Lots of places in the Midwest for cheap. Iowa and Nebraska still have some good areas too.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 21, 2022 07:48 AM (uz3Px)

217 Anyway, sorry i got salty there.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 07:49 AM (6FeV1)

218 Town of 1200 with fiber internet and a medical clinic. Bigger town of 20000 is 22 miles away. Nicer house across the street was for sale at $69,000. Mine was $28,000.

Lots of places in the Midwest for cheap. Iowa and Nebraska still have some good areas too.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 21, 2022

***
That kind of setup sounds great. Nebraska is on my radar.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 07:53 AM (c6xtn)

219 I'm in northern KS. Use Zillow to search for bargains. City-data.com and YouTube can help you check out communities.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 21, 2022 07:57 AM (uz3Px)

220 'm in northern KS. Use Zillow to search for bargains. City-data.com and YouTube can help you check out communities.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 21, 2022

***
I will!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 08:00 AM (c6xtn)

221 That reminds me - why, whenever a public official of any type talks to the public at a podium, they have an army of folks behind them?

What purpose does it serve? It looks foolish to me.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2022 07:36 AM (LsEU/)

Hey!! You guys wanna' get on teevee?!?

Posted by: BignJames at September 21, 2022 08:03 AM (AwYPR)

222 Star Citizen is a Crysis mod - it ain't a game. It's a buggy alpha demo that only the deranged are "enjoying". The scope is insane and the company has been promising impossible bullshit since 2014 that simply will never see the light of day. They have already spent a majority of that "funding" and their burn rate is astronomical. I regretrully spent 40 bucks back in 2012 and I wish I hadn't. It will never release as promised - even before most of the "stretch goal" promises they made for the last 10 years. Run away. Never give them a cent.

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