Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin Mandates That Parents Must Be Consulted Before Any School Official "Transitions" A Student's Gender

It's incredible that such a common-sense position has to be forced on to the schools through a decree.

Christopher Rufo, who fought for this harder than almost any Republican official, shares the good news.

Christopher F. Rufo
@realchrisrufo

Winning: The Youngkin Administration has created a new model policy that protects parental rights and mandates parental notification and consent before a public school can facilitate a child sexual transition.

Excerpts from the new policy at that tweet.


David Strom at Hot Air echoes a lot of what I've been saying.

It may seem radical, but Youngkin's policies will return care for the moral and physical development of students to their primary caregivers, not to some 25 year-old rainbow-colored-hair social justice warrior.

The current push to promote teachers and school bureaucrats as child development experts with superior knowledge and judgment to parents strikes me as totally bizarre.

First of all, it is really creepy to have non-caregiving adults speaking secretly to kids about their sexual identity and sexual practices, as is now common in the schools. There is word for that, but no social media site will allow it to be used without censorship. But sexualizing children is predatory behavior, especially since the people involved are promoting a particular identity or lifestyle.

Secondly, sad to say but many school teachers are barely equipped to do their primary job of educating kids in their subject matter. A quick look at student performance in the public schools will tell you that the public schools are doing a piss poor job of just teaching the basics. There are many good teachers, but as a class they are not especially impressive.

I was struck by the case in California of two mere teachers beginning the secret gay-trans club and transitioning kids themselves. As an angry parent railed at a school board meeting -- after their "transitioned" child attempted suicide -- what psychological or psychiatric training did these two know-nothings possess?

None at all. They were mere teachers. What they knew of psychology would be the one- or two- credit "Intro to Child Psychology" type stuff that is part of a teaching degree. Completely superficial, basic-bitch stuff.

And yet these two incompetent narcissists believed that this -- and their leftwing political fanaticism -- equipped them to decide which of their kids were gay and which were trans and when and how to properly transition them to their proper sexualities and genders.



The idea that teachers who can't teach will suddenly become intimates with students and guide their moral development is ridiculous and dangerous. The belief that schools that can barely maintain order could become nurturing environments for mentally disturbed children is utterly ridiculous.

It is indeed true that many children who have gender identity issues are at risk from severe mental health problems. That is an especially compelling reason to keep strangers who are ill equipped to deal with such weighty matters completely out of the issue. With kids who are suicidal it is probably best to keep the blue-haired body-pierced freak as far away from the child instead of encouraging that person to mentor them.

Those who can't do, teach.

Those who can't teach, transition.

It also seems to me that the teaching field has been inundated by mentally ill individuals who are evangelists for mental illness, and want to mainstream their own mental illness by infecting as many healthy children as possible with it.

And yeah, if you've got blue hair and fake genitals and you insist your pronouns are not pronouns but made-up non-words, you are mentally ill, and should be getting help from non-mentally-ill people, not training children in how to emulate your mental illnesses.


Posted by: Ace at 02:44 PM




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1 lolgf, groomers

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 22, 2022 02:44 PM (yHsuS)

2 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 02:46 PM (Zz0t1)

3 And yeah, if you've got blue hair and fake genitals and you insist your pronouns are not pronouns but made-up non-words, you are mentally ill, and should be getting help from non-mentally-ill people, not training children in how to emulate your mental illnesses.

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That would make them feel bad, though.

I can't think of a worse crime.

You should be arrested for even bringing it up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 02:46 PM (LvTSG)

4 Troon Groomer Brigade is gonna be pissed.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 02:46 PM (8mn8m)

5 Abortion and gender mutilation.

We're a sick society and deserve what's coming.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 02:46 PM (Zz0t1)

6 >>>And yeah, if you've got blue hair and fake genitals and you insist your pronouns are not pronouns but made-up non-words, you are mentally ill, and should be getting help from non-mentally-ill people, not training children in how to emulate your mental illnesses.

There it is.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 22, 2022 02:47 PM (yHsuS)

7 I was struck by the case in California of two mere teachers beginning the secret gay-trans club and transitioning kids themselves.

With our penises. But remember don't tell anyone that part!

Posted by: The Teachers in question at September 22, 2022 02:47 PM (ESjRY)

8 Winning: The Youngkin Administration has created a new model policy that protects parental rights and mandates parental notification and consent before a public school can facilitate a child sexual transition.


When in the flying fuck did THIS become the job of the public school system!?!?!


Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 02:47 PM (Zz0t1)

9 Old and busted: For the children

New Hotness: To the childre

Posted by: The Left at September 22, 2022 02:47 PM (ESjRY)

10 Good. Necessary.

Now stop the doctors.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2022 02:47 PM (mE7cY)

11 Did I have a single good teacher K-12? The ones I liked, looking back, were a little odd. I had a hundred bad teachers though.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2022 02:47 PM (44ww/)

12 blue hair and fake genitals

Equally creepy: fake hair and blue genitals!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 22, 2022 02:47 PM (ppBhU)

13 Poor Groomers. BTW, willowed, didn't Debbie Gibson have a song called electric youth?

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2022 02:48 PM (GwxCX)

14 Incredible - absolutely.

What this situation reflects about the collapses of the civil society, in this case the incompetence of parents who have apparently lost all interest in or control of the "educations" their children are subjected to.

Amazing. How long ago was it that express parental consent was required to even do the "birds and bees/facts of life" thing in public schools?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2022 02:48 PM (OTzUX)

15 TransFirst!

Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at September 22, 2022 02:48 PM (zSyrn)

16 "And yeah, if you've got blue hair and fake genitals.."

Fake penises worth 5 time more than vaginas. Just wanted to point that out.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2022 02:49 PM (Y5qcH)

17 Like the MD at Vanderbilt who openly admitted that mutilating children is a cash cow.

Reminds me of the c*nt at PP who admitted fetuses were an easy pathway to a Lamborghini.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2022 02:49 PM (mE7cY)

18 I don't understand why teachers would ever be granted the authority to transition a child.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 22, 2022 02:49 PM (eGTCV)

19 Good for Youngkin. It seems like a pretty obvious thing to me.

We have various people running for school board in the communities around her. Most of the signs say nothing about the candidates, but one guy has a sign that says his name, that he's running for school board and "Respect parents". I thought that was a smart slogan.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2022 02:49 PM (vH/6k)

20 if you've got blue hair and fake genitals and you insist your pronouns are not pronouns but made-up non-words, you are mentally ill, and should be getting help from non-mentally-ill people, not training children in how to emulate your mental illnesses.

..

Do you have a newsletter?

Or at least a blog?

Posted by: I Mean at September 22, 2022 02:49 PM (M20vx)

21 >>Debbie Gibson have a song called electric youth?


I believe so...but there was also Tiffany at that point and I can't really distinguish between the two.

One had a silly hat. That much I remember.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 02:49 PM (8mn8m)

22 Policy schmolicy... it should be a law, and they should be prosecuting school administrators for Child abuse.

Schools can't give ASPIRIN to a child without written permission, yet can give them psychological treatment with no parental notification? HOW THE HELL DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 22, 2022 02:50 PM (oHd/0)

23 Parents are only useful as sources of funding. They are untrained and incapable of correctly raising children.

- Demonrats, lots of teachers

Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at September 22, 2022 02:50 PM (pbIue)

24 Re: Audrey Hepburn discussion in the last thread, merged with this one: A rewrite of one of the most famous tunes in My Fair Lady:

"I could have trans-ed that day,
I could have gone all gay,
And never paused to think . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 22, 2022 02:50 PM (J2vNu)

25 It's sad that we have to fight the war on this front when there are so many things wrong in this country.

The biggest problem is that no leaders will open a new front on areas where the left has already "won".

Until they have to start defending, we will get more and more perverse attacks from the degenerate left.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 22, 2022 02:50 PM (N1tpc)

26 They're heroes, aren't they?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at September 22, 2022 02:50 PM (cIxhi)

27 One had a silly hat. That much I remember.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 02:49 PM

I had a major crush on Debbie Gibson.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2022 02:51 PM (GwxCX)

28 I'd be happier if Youngkin announced that any educator attempting "transition" a child would be transitioned to PMITA prison to await arraignment.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 22, 2022 02:51 PM (MkuC5)

29 Evil. Pure evil. Death does mot end this evil, post-death judgement does. You'd think people would know this.

Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2022 02:51 PM (gktX6)

30 I know the social issue stuff gets all the emotions and headlines, but this may be the more impactful thing Youngkin's administration is doing:

https://tinyurl.com/bdz4c2r7

Virginia attorney general creates ‘Election Integrity Unit’

"Miyares joins a growing list of GOP officeholders who have pushed stricter enforcement of voting laws in the wake of former president Donald Trump’s baseless claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him. The efforts have been criticized by voting rights groups and Democrats, who say their true aim is to suppress turnout and intimidate voters."

We still have to wait to see if it's more than just theater, but if Miyares is serious, he could probably get some interesting stuff out of Richmond and NOVA.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 02:51 PM (LvTSG)

31
I believe so...but there was also Tiffany at that point and I can't really distinguish between the two.

One had a silly hat. That much I remember.
Posted by: garrett



One was blonde, the other was a soul-stealing ginger. Other than that...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2022 02:51 PM (n+4am)

32 These people speak of 'Merely delaying puberty' as if someone could go through puberty at a protracted age and be just peachy.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 02:51 PM (8mn8m)

33 Ace brings up a really good point: this is a moral doctrine. Tranny --good or bad? That's a moral call.

Why, precisely, are schools pushing moral decisions on children? And if we can push the idea that it's good to chop off your tits, why cannot we push the idea that maybe we should read Isaiah and the Epistle to the Romans?

Heck, even the Koran has more good stuff in it that today's far left morality. And the bad stuff is likely the same as we hear from them anyway: Kill the infidel. Don't our leftists preach that just as much as the local Imam?

Posted by: Rafal GanGaonwicz at September 22, 2022 02:51 PM (Kbz60)

34 Mind you; reading, writing and arithmetic are now racist, which doesn't leave much for the woke teacher to do.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 22, 2022 02:51 PM (eGTCV)

35 Democrats think the State should be running every aspect of your lives because you are too stupid to govern yourself. If your too stupid to govern yourself, you certainly aren't fit to govern others. So putting teachers in charge of your children makes perfect sense.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 22, 2022 02:52 PM (ppBhU)

36 The biggest problem is that no leaders will open a new front on areas where the left has already "won".

I remember after we the people won the gay marriage fight in CA. CA! It looked like we had finally turned the corner.

Then some judge said, LOL NOWAY JOSE! And suddenly the R party was saying, "Time to move on to the next hill to run away from!"

Posted by: The Left at September 22, 2022 02:52 PM (ESjRY)

37 But who will affirm their gender?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2022 02:52 PM (63Dwl)

38 This shit is only allowed when the teachers are pushing radical LEFT wing agendas. Anyone think a teacher could counsel kids secretly about going to church or sexual abstinence or being a police explorer?

Posted by: UGAdawg at September 22, 2022 02:52 PM (tRd71)

39 Ace is right. We have gone from putting our crazy folks in asylums... to treating them in public... to not admitting they have serious mental problems...

To making the insane Heroes, and putting them in charge of parts of our Federal Government... (Trans Admiral in charge of HEALTH CARE???? WTF?).

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 22, 2022 02:53 PM (oHd/0)

40 If the teachers union taught video games in public schools, the kids would suck at video games.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2022 02:53 PM (UuD2k)

41 >>Ace brings up a really good point: this is a moral doctrine. Tranny --good or bad? That's a moral call.


Is it? I mean. They are certifiably insane. In and of themselves, not really a moral judgement to be applied.

Now. The PRO - Tranny activist:

That person is just straight up bad.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 02:53 PM (8mn8m)

42 Here's an idea, how about we simply reject the whole concept of "transitioning," mkay.

It's a f**king lie and pathway to insanity and societal instability and breakdown of cohesion.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 22, 2022 02:53 PM (up/3i)

43 Attack the church
Attack the family
Attack men
Attack races
Attack children
Attack patriotism
Attack nationalism
Attack normalcy
Attack values
Attack gun ownership

There's the left's platform in a nutshell.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2022 02:53 PM (mE7cY)

44 "It may seem radical, but Youngkin's policies will return care for the moral and physical development of students to their primary caregivers"


For leftist that would/should be the state, not the parents. And for much of the moocher class it is reality.

Posted by: Ripley at September 22, 2022 02:54 PM (MxEKc)

45 "baseless claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him"

They always have to throw that in to reinforce the
narrative. Complete b.s.

Posted by: Bosk at September 22, 2022 02:54 PM (v4L7Y)

46 Debbie Gibson have a song called electric youth?
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I believe so...but there was also Tiffany at that point and I can't really distinguish between the two.

One had a silly hat. That much I remember.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022


***
They were both redheads at that point? Yeah, I don't recall a big difference either.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 22, 2022 02:55 PM (J2vNu)

47 So much mental illness. We need more asylums.

Or, bird shot.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2022 02:55 PM (6/K6X)

48 My working hypothesis is that the catholic church began kicking child abusers out in the late 80s and 90s, and perverts had to find another avenue to access children. Voila - public schools.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 22, 2022 02:55 PM (lTGtQ)

49 Or, bird shot.
Posted by: Infidel
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lol

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2022 02:55 PM (aenZi)

50 Ace brings up a really good point: this is a moral doctrine. Tranny --good or bad? That's a moral call.

No, this is a crime against society and nature - both of which depend on reproduction for their continued existence.

Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at September 22, 2022 02:55 PM (zSyrn)

51 I always wanted a Tiffany / Debbie Gibson cage match, winner take all.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)

52 Do wannabe teachers enter training as teacher training for the sole purpose of grooming children.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 22, 2022 02:56 PM (eGTCV)

53 A liberally appled Tire Iron can cure most mental illness.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 02:56 PM (8mn8m)

54 "It is indeed true that many children who have gender identity issues are at risk from severe mental health problems."

___________________________

I would argue that these children ALREADY have severe mental health problems as is indicative of experiencing gender identity issues.

Posted by: Orson at September 22, 2022 02:56 PM (QPXWs)

55 And by cage match, I mean, pudding.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 02:56 PM (Zz0t1)

56 I always wanted a Tiffany / Debbie Gibson cage match, winner take all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022


***
Hmmm . . . oil wrestling, or bikini boxing . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 22, 2022 02:56 PM (J2vNu)

57 @43

>>There's the left's platform in a nutshell.

It's the sine quo non of Critical theory, the destruction of the existing order and perpetual societal friciton.

IE. All they want to do is get married and live in peace.
--
Mabriel Galor

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 22, 2022 02:57 PM (up/3i)

58 I would feel better about this position if I could see a couple of Loudon and Fairfax 'teachers' hanging from lampposts. Until then, the groomers of NOVA will continue grooming.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 02:57 PM (tiR3O)

59 Combined
And
Greased
Entertainment

CAGE

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 02:57 PM (8mn8m)

60 Debbie Gibson came to a nightclub I was working in. Smart girl. I asked if she would get behind the bar for a photo. She said no.

Posted by: CtHillary, dead but dreaming at September 22, 2022 02:57 PM (zSyrn)

61 "baseless claims that the 2020 election was stolen from him"


Most or all of the stolen states have shown their are more fraudulent ballots then Biden's nominal margin of victory.

The left's argument then becomes, "You can't prove those votes were for Biden". And it is true - because that is the whole point of the secret ballot.

But before they were "counted" Trump was ahead and afterwards he was behind which seems pretty strong evidence...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 02:57 PM (ESjRY)

62 Garrett, are not all of this moral calls? Murder is bad... unless it's a sacrifice to Moloch or you are killing the king for the harvest failure, right? Human sacrifice was a BIG part of history... and most of those doing it called themselves moral.

It took Christianity and Christian Europe's dominance of the world to stomp out human sacrifice. The left wants all of that back. If you can justify tearing out the heart of a human on an altar while they scream, and it's all good for the glory of Tezoplin or whomever... what's trannyism?

But thankfully we do have Christian morals, even in decay, and thus we can be properly horrified by all of this. It is evil, and only those who have no connection to God could possibly justify any of this, I think.

Posted by: Rafal GanGaonwicz at September 22, 2022 02:57 PM (Kbz60)

63 There was a time when the Democrats were just tyrannical jerks. Now they are simply evil. Why do they want to screw with children so much? Good Lord, it's beyond sick.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at September 22, 2022 02:57 PM (RG7Wy)

64 We still have to wait to see if it's more than just theater, but if Miyares is serious, he could probably get some interesting stuff out of Richmond and NOVA.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

I remember reading something about Prince William County Registrar facing some felony charges from AG Miyares.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 22, 2022 02:58 PM (HRpcd)

65 Forgive me for not trusting our Heroes, the Teachers, and their secret judgments regarding children's mental health -- especially in the same week that Canada has made it against the law to criticize a male teacher who flounces around his classroom in a blond wig, miniskirt, and ginormous prosthetic boobehs, replete with huge, erect nipples.

Posted by: red speck at September 22, 2022 02:58 PM (gS3OW)

66 I would argue that these children ALREADY have severe mental health problems as is indicative of experiencing gender identity issues.
Posted by: Orson at September 22, 2022 02:56 PM (QPXWs)

Wouldn't be surprised to find many were victims of abuse.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2022 02:58 PM (UuD2k)

67 "It is indeed true that many children who have gender identity issues are at risk from severe mental health problems."



This is incorrect. The reverse is true.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 22, 2022 02:58 PM (lTGtQ)

68 This shit is only allowed when the teachers are pushing radical LEFT wing agendas. Anyone think a teacher could counsel kids secretly about going to church or sexual abstinence or being a police explorer?
Posted by: UGAdawg at September 22, 2022 02:52 PM

Bingo.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2022 02:58 PM (GwxCX)

69 24 Wolfus, Lol.

I suppose if they remade My Fair Lady now, it would involve Eleazar transitioning to Eliza and going to Higgins to learn how to uptalk and do vocal fry.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2022 02:59 PM (Hn+0J)

70 Trump, DeSantis, Abbott, Youngkin...

Stop. I'm feeling dizzy from lack of blood.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 22, 2022 02:59 PM (ayzS/)

71 My daughter did two semesters student teaching middle-schoolers math..... it was impossible as the teachers are not allowed to confiscate cell phones, the kids know it, and they spend their time in class on Tik-Tok rather than learning math. She refused to teach at public schools. She took a $25k/yr. job teaching math across the country at a private school where she can actually teach middle schoolers and reluctant high schoolers that math is fun not scary!

Posted by: Monica at September 22, 2022 02:59 PM (Ztr3O)

72 Carried over from the pervious thread because wrongs need to be righted...

Audrey Hepburn was attractive.
...
Because she looked like a ten year-old boy wearing makeup?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at September 22, 2022 02:19 PM (YqDXo)


Just because she doesn't have GGG breasts doesn't make her flat.

https://is.gd/nBMk80

SFW

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 02:59 PM (wYNBg)

73
The beauty of the Left's approach to politics is that when you attack in every direction all at once, and all the time, there is no way to lose. For the opposition to win in one arena is for them to lose in the others, and then you can re-concentrate your forces in the area where you lost ground and reopen that assault, until nothing is left to fight.

Of course, to do this, your side has be singleminded, totally dedicated, have a lot of resources, be willing to use them, and have zero compunction about outcomes. And the opposition has to be and do none of those things.

In the end, they just wanted it more. That's the story. They wanted this country more than we did, and they took it. The end.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2022 02:59 PM (oINRc)

74 I'm pretty sure there's already at least one VA school district that's planning to proudly ignore this requirement.

Posted by: Octochicken at September 22, 2022 02:59 PM (oCS0o)

75 Youngkin has developed the template. Other governors can use it, too.

Posted by: mr tmz at September 22, 2022 03:00 PM (rJ48h)

76 As comment #43 demonstrates it's the Cloward and Pivening of American society by the left. Deconstruct by overwhelming the culture.

Posted by: John White at September 22, 2022 03:00 PM (eEL5Q)

77 We still have to wait to see if it's more than just theater, but if Miyares is serious, he could probably get some interesting stuff out of Richmond and NOVA.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


I know you want to be cautious, but at this point, it's hard to see how these guys aren't the real thing.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 22, 2022 03:00 PM (ayzS/)

78 Heck, even the Koran has more good stuff in it that today's far left morality. And the bad stuff is likely the same as we hear from them anyway: Kill the infidel. Don't our leftists preach that just as much as the local Imam?
Posted by: Rafal GanGaonwicz at September 22, 2022 02:51 PM (Kbz60)

Re: the Koran v Bible

I remember this comparison from years back:

The Bible went from Warrior (Old Testament) to Pacifist (New Testament), where as the Koran went from Pacifist to Warrior

Posted by: Newt Gingrich at September 22, 2022 03:00 PM (BgMrQ)

79 IE. All they want to do is get married and live in peace.
--
Mabriel Galor
Posted by: Thomas Bender



Ah, good times! I recall hyz smug, condescending snark over concerns about where this was all headed, and here we are.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 22, 2022 03:00 PM (J7wri)

80 This is what happens when mental institutions are shut down.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2022 03:00 PM (BdMk6)

81 >>Garrett, are not all of this moral calls?


I would not agree to that.
It is not immoral at face for a Tranny to exist, imo. There is no real (moral) impingement on the lives of others in living in such a way.
It is only through the action of trying to normalize and replicate said behaviour where I will get on board with you.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:00 PM (8mn8m)

82 /off Newt sock

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at September 22, 2022 03:01 PM (BgMrQ)

83 Teachers weren't allowed to ever discuss sex with kids, for good reason. That wasn't there job.

It was the parents job.

Some of this blame lay at the parents feet, abdicating their role to the state. But it's a gray area. Cost of living forcing a two income family.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2022 03:01 PM (mE7cY)

84 I'm pretty sure there's already at least one VA school district that's planning to proudly ignore this requirement.

FAFO

Posted by: Youngkin and Miyares at September 22, 2022 03:01 PM (ayzS/)

85 Why did Socialist Sweden go Right Wing?

It probably had something to do with all the bombings and shootings?

https://tinyurl.com/mr43nk4f

Posted by: rd at September 22, 2022 03:01 PM (Z32m1)

86 Baseless claim that elections are un-tampered.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2022 03:01 PM (44ww/)

87 Wouldn't be surprised to find many were victims of abuse.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2022 02:58 PM

Or completely fucked up parents to boot. If you're letting your 1 year old electric child decide which gender they want to be and what pronouns they want to use, you are an abusive fuck already.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2022 03:01 PM (GwxCX)

88 >>This is what happens when mental institutions are shut down.


Partially. We also give way to much weight to the notion of Psychology being a hard science.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:01 PM (8mn8m)

89
And yeah, if you've got blue hair and fake genitals and you insist your pronouns are not pronouns but made-up non-words, you are mentally ill, and should be getting help from non-mentally-ill people, not training children in how to emulate your mental illnesses.

Posted by Ace at 02:44 PM Comments

‐------
Ace is our modern-day Shakespeare.
You've got some serious wordsmithing talent, my man.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2022 03:01 PM (nTENC)

90 Boy oh boy

Posted by: 496 at September 22, 2022 03:01 PM (VJsqe)

91 At this point, even the densest GOPe type has to at least see the writing on the wall. The old days are over. Get on board or get run over.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 22, 2022 03:02 PM (ayzS/)

92 The Bible went from Warrior (Old Testament) to Pacifist (New Testament), where as the Koran went from Pacifist to Warrior
___

This is so, so stupid.

Jesus overcame death and evil.

Last time I checked, Mohammed was still dead.

Posted by: SMH at September 22, 2022 03:02 PM (aenZi)

93 against the law to criticize a male teacher who flounces around his classroom in a blond wig, miniskirt, and ginormous prosthetic boobehs, replete with huge, erect nipples.
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Gotta give him credit, those are serious ginormous boobehs with very erect nippledge.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:02 PM (tiR3O)

94 I wonder if some shithead judge will issue an illegitimate stoppage of this mandate.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 22, 2022 03:02 PM (YohY1)

95 A simple question to ask - how many fraudulent ballots are cast in any given presidential election.

The left says: NONE!

But then where there are investigations they find...a lot.

The left then says: NOT ENOUGH TO SWAY THE ELECTION.

Which...is both unproven and immediately disproves the assertion of "none"

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:02 PM (ESjRY)

96 77 I know you want to be cautious, but at this point, it's hard to see how these guys aren't the real thing.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 22, 2022 03:00 PM (ayzS/)

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I'm one of the younger ones around these parts, and I've heard enough empty talk, seen blue ribbon commissions formed, heard Congressional hearings shouted, et al in my life to demand tangible action before believing a Republican politician means anything they say.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (LvTSG)

97 In the end, they just wanted it more. That's the story. They wanted this country more than we did, and they took it. The end.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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YD,
There is no such thing as the end of history. It will go on regardless of what anyone cares about and today's fashions will be on the scrap heap of tomorrow.

The idea of the end of history is nonsense promulgated by utopians pushing historical determinism such as Marx. In a word, bullshit.

Posted by: whig at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (CXr4y)

98 Ace is our modern-day Shakespeare.
You've got some serious wordsmithing talent, my man.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 22, 2022 03:01 PM

Chuyspeare!

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (GwxCX)

99 >>Gotta give him credit, those are serious ginormous boobehs with very erect nippledge.



It's cold in Canada.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (8mn8m)

100
I would argue that these children ALREADY have severe mental health problems as is indicative of experiencing gender identity issues.
Posted by: Orson at September 22, 2022 02:56 PM (QPXWs)

Wouldn't be surprised to find many were victims of abuse.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe



Most of the rest are just typical teenagers who have discovered that claiming to be genderfluid or whatever is a great way to exert power over Mommy and Daddy by siccing commie teachers and government officials on them.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (n+4am)

101 The efforts have been criticized by voting rights groups and Democrats, who say their true aim is to suppress turnout and intimidate voters."
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What person who is legally able to vote would be discouraged from voting by the thought that the voting process is receiving a small amount of scrutiny? Or heck even a huge amount of scrutiny? I thought so.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (fs1hN)

102 I'm one of the younger ones around these parts, and I've heard enough empty talk, seen blue ribbon commissions formed, heard Congressional hearings shouted, et al in my life to demand tangible action before believing a Republican politician means anything they say.

You are far too young to be so cynical. Still, I understand.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (ayzS/)

103 I would think a Democrat who campaigned on a platform of sanity would gain traction. But of course there are no sane Democrats and if there was one he'd be drummed out of the party.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (eGTCV)

104 >>The idea of the end of history is nonsense promulgated by utopians pushing historical determinism such as Marx. In a word, bullshit.


Hegel. That guy was a fucking menace

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (8mn8m)

105 I wish more Christian faiths would do what the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints does (sometimes known as the Mormons). Near every high school where there is a significant population of members of the Church, the church builds a small 1-2, maybe 5 classroom building. And during the school day, the high school students get "release time" for an hour. Which release time is spent as just another class for an hour in the next door church building. All completely voluntary, of course. But an hour a day of religious education / scripture study along with the other nonsense in high school can be very, very helpful.

In places where there aren't' many Church members they do the same classes, only before school in a member's home or something.

I've always been surprised this isn't a Christian wide practice. Why don't the local Baptists do this in Baton Rouge, for instance?

Posted by: Rafal GanGaonwicz at September 22, 2022 03:04 PM (Kbz60)

106 Why did Socialist Sweden go Right Wing?

It probably had something to do with all the bombings and shootings?

https://tinyurl.com/mr43nk4f
Posted by: rd


You know as well as anyone here, Scandi's 'right wing' is the US' 'left wing' circa 1965. They actually like their culture and language, unlike the post-mod Western corpo-left.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 22, 2022 03:04 PM (IyrhE)

107 Whenever I get a little homesick for my old life in California, I think about what's happening in the public schools, and I'm glad we're no longer going to a public school. I know private doesn't completely shield us from this, but the interviews and research about the private school tells me this is not their priority.

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at September 22, 2022 03:04 PM (ep37o)

108 Audrey Hepburn was attractive.
...
Because she looked like a ten year-old boy wearing makeup?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at September 22, 2022
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Just because she doesn't have GGG breasts doesn't make her flat.

https://is.gd/nBMk80

SFW
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022

***
A perky, magnetic woman

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 22, 2022 03:04 PM (J2vNu)

109 Society will eventually become RoboCop. But, the solution will be BIG GOVERNMENT, not a corrupt corporation. Government will allow society to decay, then declare martial law and rebuild everything into it's dream society, with the peasants doing all the work and the bureaucrats collecting all the money.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

110 This is what happens when mental institutions are shut down.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2022 03:00 PM (BdMk6)


This is what happens when the psychology and psychiatry professions are taken over by insane people that tried to fix themselves with psychology and psychiatry.

Posted by: rd at September 22, 2022 03:04 PM (Z32m1)

111 My reading on early Islam is that when the Byzantines first encountered them they though Muslims were just some heretical branch of Christianity where Muhammed basically just made himself Jesus - like David Koresh but with actual child f*cking.

Likely they were right, as most of modern Islam theologically came later.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:04 PM (ESjRY)

112 In their heart of hearts, I suspect that many Dems know they've gone off the rails, but they don't want to be the ones to say so, so they'll happily let the conservatives do it.

Profiles in courage they are not.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 22, 2022 03:05 PM (ayzS/)

113 Debbie Gibson have a song called electric youth?


I believe so...but there was also Tiffany at that point and I can't really distinguish between the two.

One had a silly hat. That much I remember.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 02:49 PM (8mn8m)

Anybody remember that TNT or TBS movie that had high of them in it and there was a cat fight between them?!! Brilliant.

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at September 22, 2022 03:05 PM (ep37o)

114 Excellent news!

>>after their "transitioned" child attempted suicide -- what psychological or psychiatric training did these two know-nothings possess? None at all. They were mere teachers.

As a parent of a child who had developmental delays, I can confirm that teachers are very comfortable making all sorts of diagnoses on their students. We kept having to fend off advice/recommendations that our son was on the autism spectrum, ADHD. He had health issues that had delayed development and all they wanted to do was put him in a category and have him drugged.

Imperfect kids, particularly boys, are problematic to public school teachers.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2022 03:05 PM (I/doM)

115
YD,
There is no such thing as the end of history. It will go on regardless of what anyone cares about and today's fashions will be on the scrap heap of tomorrow.

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No there isn't.

There's always "what comes next." But there *is* an end to the history of practically every nation, and this is the end of ours.

What comes out the other side of this, for good or bad, will not be the USA, except (perhaps) in name only. That country is done for.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2022 03:05 PM (oINRc)

116 102 You are far too young to be so cynical. Still, I understand.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (ayzS/)

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I want Youngkin and Miyares to be the real thing.

I also want some low-level Democrat workers arrested for stuffing ballot boxes and thrown in prison for years.

I want VA to become a red state again.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:05 PM (LvTSG)

117 >>I would argue that these children ALREADY have severe mental health problems as is indicative of experiencing gender identity issues.


Nah. Kids imprint quite easily up to a very mature age. It's part of their development / learning curve. Very easy to manipulate and the exact reason why we should strive so hard to protect them from others and themselves.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:05 PM (8mn8m)

118 94 I wonder if some shithead judge will issue an illegitimate stoppage of this mandate.
_________

Whoa hold on there, this is suppression of these groomer teachers' first amendment rights. Objection sustained!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 22, 2022 03:05 PM (fs1hN)

119 "Winning: The Youngkin Administration has created a new model policy that protects parental rights and mandates parental notification and consent before a public school can facilitate a child sexual transition."

Do better, Chris. "Sexual transition" is an impossibilty. Insane people can make a pretense of converting to the opposite sex, and they can even get surgical mutilations done to reinforce that pretense, but all they will ever be is a sad simulacrum of a member of the other team.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2022 03:06 PM (hTKCl)

120 https://tinyurl.com/bdf8yee4

'jus sayin'

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 22, 2022 03:06 PM (MkuC5)

121 Most of the rest are just typical teenagers who have discovered that claiming to be genderfluid or whatever is a great way to exert power over Mommy and Daddy by siccing commie teachers and government officials on them.
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Nicely said. Touche'

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:06 PM (tiR3O)

122 102 I'm one of the younger ones around these parts, and I've heard enough empty talk, seen blue ribbon commissions formed, heard Congressional hearings shouted, et al in my life to demand tangible action before believing a Republican politician means anything they say.

did you just assume my decrepitude ?????

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted by: REDACTED at September 22, 2022 03:06 PM (us2H3)

123 93 against the law to criticize a male teacher who flounces around his classroom in a blond wig, miniskirt, and ginormous prosthetic boobehs, replete with huge, erect nipples.
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Gotta give him credit, those are serious ginormous boobehs with very erect nippledge.

Posted by: Puddinhead
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That was in Canada and part of the story is the guy likely wanted to get fired so he could sue. That is why the whole transgender thing will collapse as more people learn the reality of it and those 'brave souls' become the future butt of jokes and endless medical issues.

Crack and meth cycles are perfect examples of how the idiocies of a particular generation become the cruel butt of jokes for those that come after.

Posted by: whig at September 22, 2022 03:06 PM (CXr4y)

124 I'm one of the younger ones around these parts, and I've heard enough empty talk, seen blue ribbon commissions formed, heard Congressional hearings shouted, et al in my life to demand tangible action before believing a Republican politician means anything they say.

Republicans then: We don't need an amendment against gay marriage...it will never happen

Republicans a little later: Hey we are creaming the Democrats at the polls over gay marriage...thank goodness we didn't do that amendment thing you guys wanted!

Republicans now: A judge said gay marriage is a right - the debates over, lets move to the next hill.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:06 PM (ESjRY)

125 Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin Mandates That Parents Must Be Consulted Before Any School Official "Transitions" A Student's Gender
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Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin Mandates That Parents Must Be Consulted Before Any School Official prescribes drugs to a student

Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin Mandates That Parents Must Be Consulted Before Any School Official performs a medical procedure on a student

Virginia Governor Glenn Youngkin Mandates That Parents Must Be Consulted Before Any School Official does dental work on a student

Etc. In any of those other statements, the reaction would be - and it would be the right reaction - "WTF are these people doing? This ain't school. Why are you giving my kid drugs or messing with his teeth or performing surgery on him? Back up and back off."

Yet with dick-chopping, it's gotten to the point where now mandatory "consultation" about it is major progress.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 22, 2022 03:06 PM (t0OGg)

126 It seems like there is no alternative to homeschooling or private Christian school.
Sadly said Christian school might be flying the rainbow flag.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 22, 2022 03:06 PM (eGTCV)

127 I'd buy that for a dollar!

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at September 22, 2022 03:07 PM (ep37o)

128 @79

>>and here we are.

Yes the progression went..

We just want to come out of the closet > We just want our relationships recognized > we just want to marry > We just want to be in the bodies we want > We just want to chop the body parts off of your kids > We just want to f**k your children.

This progression has taken a little over a generation to develop but here we are.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 22, 2022 03:07 PM (up/3i)

129 There is no real (moral) impingement on the lives of others in living in such a way.

God's pretty clear on sodomites and the like. A nation founded on God-given Rights should have some interest in His opinion on where they begin and end.

Posted by: Methos at September 22, 2022 03:07 PM (kOpft)

130 Trump, DeSantis, Abbott, Youngkin...

Stop. I'm feeling dizzy from lack of blood.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 22, 2022 02:59 PM (ayzS/)

The governor and legislature in Oklahoma have been doing what these people have been doing for years. We're just quiet about it. We like it that way.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2022 03:07 PM (BdMk6)

131 This close to Pride month??? Right before midterms????

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 22, 2022 03:07 PM (9iaW1)

132 exert power over Mommy and Daddy by siccing commie teachers and government officials on them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (n+4am)

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You have no idea how right you are.

Posted by: 496 at September 22, 2022 03:07 PM (VJsqe)

133 "'These Are Human Beings’: Jared Kushner Hits Ron DeSantis For Using Migrants as ‘Political Pawns’".

The biggest ask I have for DJT, today, is to publicly, loudly, abrasively denounce Javanka and all that they believe. Put some frickin vast distance between himself and those two nitwits, now.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at September 22, 2022 03:08 PM (24fqN)

134 I want VA to become a red state again.

My memory is the FNM said that Trump had no hope in VA.

Then they started counting the ballots and Trump was ahead.

And...then they stopped counting the ballots (but not really) and suddenly next morning Biden was way ahead

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:08 PM (ESjRY)

135 Unless you are an actual hermaphrodite, which is extremely rare, if you don't know whether you are a man or a woman, you are either monumentally stupid, extremely confused, or insane. In any case I am not going to listen to anything you have to say on the subject of "Gender".

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at September 22, 2022 03:08 PM (CecP5)

136 I'd be happier if Youngkin announced that any educator attempting "transition" a child would be transitioned to PMITA prison to await arraignment.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 22, 2022 02:51 PM (MkuC5)

Transition them to "compost", and now we're talking.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2022 03:08 PM (hTKCl)

137 Handcuff society by demonizing anyone who disparages the degeneracy.

Then attack the kids and dare anyone to say anything.


Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2022 03:08 PM (mE7cY)

138 It also seems to me that the teaching field has been inundated by mentally ill individuals who are evangelists for mental illness, and want to mainstream their own mental illness by infecting as many healthy children as possible with it.


That's a lot of words just to say "women".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 22, 2022 03:08 PM (K1TxI)

139 "And yeah, if you've got blue hair and fake genitals and you insist your pronouns are not pronouns but made-up non-words, you are mentally ill, and should be getting help from non-mentally-ill people, not training children in how to emulate your mental illnesses.#

That needs to engraved in granite.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (RXiMK)

140 whig @ 123-
You uses butt and crack in the same post. Heh heh.

Posted by: Eromero at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (gktX6)

141 A simple question to ask - how many fraudulent ballots are cast in any given presidential election.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:02 PM (ESjRY)


Perhaps a better question would be - how many are acceptable?

If the left says none, yet fraudulent ballots are found, then work must be done to correct the issue.

If the left does not say none...well, that's a different ball of wax.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (wYNBg)

142 Remember when they pushed for no parental consent abortions down to 14 years old.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (9iaW1)

143 I want to see a Red, Whiite and Blue Woodchipper in a Political Ad this seaason.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (8mn8m)

144 134 And...then they stopped counting the ballots (but not really) and suddenly next morning Biden was way ahead
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:08 PM (ESjRY)

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I remember that happening in VA as well.

Everyone outside of NOVA and Blacksburg seemed pretty fucking based.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (LvTSG)

145 Youngkin is smart and tricky

but so far, it's the dims he is tricking

he exhibits a real "aw shucks" demeanor

he is also very tall

Posted by: REDACTED at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (us2H3)

146 Why did Socialist Sweden go Right Wing?

It probably had something to do with all the bombings and shootings?

https://tinyurl.com/mr43nk4f
Posted by: rd

You know as well as anyone here, Scandi's 'right wing' is the US' 'left wing' circa 1965. They actually like their culture and language, unlike the post-mod Western corpo-left.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at


They gave up any control over their culture when they imported the all important virtue signaling diversity they desired.

Read the attached article. Their crime is driven by about 40 Criminal Clans. Clans! Not Gangs. Extended family run criminal enterprises. Not one named Johnson or Anderson.

Posted by: rd at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (Z32m1)

147 >>I would argue that these children ALREADY have severe mental health problems as is indicative of experiencing gender identity issues.


The gender activists portray the typical adolescent angst as indicative that you are trans, e.g. do you every feel like you don't fit in, you're totally trans!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (I/doM)

148 Women didn't used to be this way.

Women used to be the firewall protecting children at all costs.

Most teachers were women.

What changed? Feminism.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 22, 2022 03:10 PM (mE7cY)

149 102 I'm one of the younger ones around these parts

So you're 28 then.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2022 03:10 PM (GwxCX)

150 There are fraudulent ballots cast, but only by republicans!!!! Reeeee!!!!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 22, 2022 03:10 PM (9iaW1)

151 That was in Canada and part of the story is the guy likely wanted to get fired so he could sue.
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So a Fake Tranny Yossarian, eh? That would make a great script.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:10 PM (tiR3O)

152 149 102 I'm one of the younger ones around these parts

So you're 28 then.
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2022 03:10 PM (GwxCX)

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Almost.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:10 PM (LvTSG)

153 Most of the rest are just typical teenagers who have discovered that claiming to be genderfluid or whatever is a great way to exert power over Mommy and Daddy by siccing commie teachers and government officials on them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (n+4am)


Or getting out of work at school. Or getting a better grade. Or...

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:10 PM (wYNBg)

154 I also want some low-level Democrat workers arrested for stuffing ballot boxes and thrown in prison for years.

Hahahahaha. You funny.

Posted by: California at September 22, 2022 03:10 PM (v0R5T)

155 Back after Shrub was elected I trolled lefty boards and they were concerned that he would commit them to asylums.

Not because of politics but because, as they liked to put it, they had a different understanding of reality then Republicans.

Of course this was a stupid fear but the fact this is the way much of the left views the world has stuck with me.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:10 PM (ESjRY)

156 >>The gender activists portray the typical adolescent angst as indicative that you are trans, e.g. do you every feel like you don't fit in, you're totally trans!


It's peer pressure.

But being applied by 30+ year old men to 10-12 year old girls.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:11 PM (8mn8m)

157 Not one named Johnson or Anderson.

I bet there is at least one Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed - which...come on parents you can do better then that

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:11 PM (ESjRY)

158 148 Women didn't used to be this way.

Women used to be the firewall protecting children at all costs.

Most teachers were women.

What changed?



We stopped backhanding them when they embarrassed us by spouting their nonsense in public.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 22, 2022 03:12 PM (K1TxI)

159 No there isn't.

There's always "what comes next." But there *is* an end to the history of practically every nation, and this is the end of ours.

What comes out the other side of this, for good or bad, will not be the USA, except (perhaps) in name only. That country is done for.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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That is a different matter but not true even at that level because it is falsely based on the fall of the Roman Empire which is where Marx got his ideas. For example, the Byzantine Empire went through several cycles of change as has the Brits without the nation ending.

Instead, what you are discussing is a regime--which is a particular governing arrangement based on the present. The left has won the institutions it sought but curiously has left behind the people which are now coalescing around ideas about a regime to come. Regimes end much sooner but nations because they are based in people, not institutions, tend to stick around a lot longer unless you run into Genghis Khan or something like that.

Posted by: whig at September 22, 2022 03:12 PM (CXr4y)

160
The idea of the end of history is nonsense promulgated by utopians pushing historical determinism such as Marx. In a word, bullshit.


On the other hand, Francis Fukuyama is one hell of a photographer, and woodworker, based on what I saw in a CSPAN interview years ago.

Now, if he'd have just stuck with those hobbies...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2022 03:12 PM (n+4am)

161 I bet there is at least one Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed - which...come on parents you can do better then that
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:11 PM (ESjRY)
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I'm pretty sure I've ran across that at least once...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 22, 2022 03:12 PM (YIVH2)

162 You are far too young to be so cynical. Still, I understand.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (ayzS/)


I'm not one of the younger ones around these parts...I'll also point out that we've had people who rode in and looked real good for a year or two. Our side always wants to put a "good person" in place and be able to relax. The other side counts on that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:12 PM (wYNBg)

163 The Daily Mail reports that the actual Russian mobilization callup is one million people, not 300,000.

Given that number, one wonders if Putin is planning on an all-out war with NATO.

Draft calls are rather light in Moscow and St. Petersburg (because the authorities care about the opinions of people in Moscow and St. Petersburg), but are much heavier in the areas adjoining Ukraine and in the non-Russian republics.

The Daily Mail has pictures of many men being herded onto buses in Belgorod (near Ukraine), and reports that at one university in a non-Russian republic, the authorities surrounded the lecture halls and marched all the male students onto waiting buses for transport to the army. (Students aren't supposed to be drafted.)

Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania have announced that they will not admit people fleeing Putin's mobilization orders. Nice of them to help enforce Putin's policies.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2022 03:12 PM (I2/tG)

164 Read the attached article. Their crime is driven by about 40 Criminal Clans. Clans! Not Gangs. Extended family run criminal enterprises. Not one named Johnson or Anderson.
Posted by: rd at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (Z32m1)


Speaking of which, check out the Minnesota Covid Fraud cases filed yesterday. One white woman at the top, and then a whole bunch of "Friends of Ilhan" underneath.

Posted by: Wally at September 22, 2022 03:12 PM (FJYfm)

165 145 Youngkin is smart and tricky
but so far, it's the dims he is tricking
he exhibits a real "aw shucks" demeanor
he is also very tall

Posted by: REDACTED at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (us2H3)

I hear we tend to have a lot of really tall presidents.

I, for one, love Youngkin for (like Trump), doing what he promised to the best of his ability and continuing to push for what he promised and not just giving up with a opposition party congress...he fights, but he does it smartly and in that "aw shucks" way that causes folks to go - he's got a point.

I mean, all the NoVA school systems have stated publicly that they have to "study" this policy to see if they will sue - they know they got nothing, but their crazies are gonna be pissed off, so they are buying time pre-election before folding...

Posted by: Nova local at September 22, 2022 03:12 PM (exHjb)

166 "as they liked to put it, they had a different understanding of reality then Republicans."

Now they are so crazy they can't even use the 'reality-based' tag anymore.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at September 22, 2022 03:13 PM (24fqN)

167 >>Gotta give him credit, those are serious ginormous boobehs with very erect nippledge.


Apparently, it's based on Japanese anime, something like 'exploding milk porn' I sh#t you not.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2022 03:13 PM (I/doM)

168 148 Women didn't used to be this way.

Women used to be the firewall protecting children at all costs.

Most teachers were women.

What changed? Feminism.
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My Grandmother was a public school teacher back in the teens and 20's. It was normal for teachers to delouse students of nits, buzz their hair, and give them enemas if they were tooting too much. I don't think she turned out any trannies, though.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:13 PM (tiR3O)

169 Angsty teenagers who feel uncomfortable in their bodies and are seeking attention at home or school. Let's have an untrained psychoanalyst tell them the easy solution to their feelings is to change gender.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 22, 2022 03:13 PM (9iaW1)

170 How many gender activists are there in society?,i don't know one.
I might know some people who are cool with trannies but are still far from activists. And don't know any parents who would not be inclined to kill any teacher that sexually interfered with their children.
So where does all the noise come from?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 22, 2022 03:13 PM (eGTCV)

171 I bet there is at least one Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed - which...come on parents you can do better then that
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022


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Sadly, my parents thought that was a great idea.

Posted by: Major Major Major at September 22, 2022 03:13 PM (J2vNu)

172 But being applied by 30+ year old men to 10-12 year old girls.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:11 PM (8mn8m)

Going through the Goth stage now means chopping your tits off. No more Dead Kennedy's t shirts, you just cut off your wiener

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 22, 2022 03:13 PM (M+Lyo)

173 Not because of politics but because, as they liked to put it, they had a different understanding of reality then Republicans.

Of course this was a stupid fear but the fact this is the way much of the left views the world has stuck with me.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:10 PM (ESjRY)
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To paraphrase Adam Savage from Mythbusters, they REJECT our reality and substitute their own. Of course, reality ALWAYS gets the final vote. Always.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 22, 2022 03:13 PM (YIVH2)

174 Apparently, it's based on Japanese anime, something like 'exploding milk porn' I sh#t you not.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2022 03:13 PM (I/doM)

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I was thinking - are there really no thumbtacks in that Ontario school?

Posted by: 496 at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (VJsqe)

175 165 145 Youngkin is smart and tricky
but so far, it's the dims he is tricking
he exhibits a real "aw shucks" demeanor
he is also very tall
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He's Dutch.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (tiR3O)

176 It is not immoral at face for a Tranny to exist, imo. There is no real (moral) impingement on the lives of others in living in such a way.
It is only through the action of trying to normalize and replicate said behaviour where I will get on board with you.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:00 PM (8mn8m)

A tranny who gets the surgeries is a murderer, because it has murdered its parents' natural child, and replaced it with a monster.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (hTKCl)

177 Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania have announced that they will not admit people fleeing Putin's mobilization orders. Nice of them to help enforce Putin's policies.

Not our circus, nor our monkey

Posted by: Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (ESjRY)

178 I take comfort in the fact that this will all end rather suddenly, and God will destroy all of this.

I do not take comfort in the fact we will have to live through all of this before that day comes.

Let's face it: Christians and Conservatives are now, essentially, the "People of Israel" circa 700 BC: a small group in an overwhelmingly pagan, evil world.

Posted by: Rafal GanGaonwicz at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (Kbz60)

179 Some edu-pap piece I read posted somewhere was some dick chopping groomer telling kids as young as 10 that if they are uncomfortable with their bodies it means they are more than likely trannies and that they are special, etc. etc. My gut tells me that many of these kids are pushed into claiming this by their fucked up parents and schools telling them they get special attention. What kid at that age IS comfortable with their body? I wasn't. Hell I'm still not, but telling some prepubescent child that means they are trans or ghey etc. is child abuse.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (GwxCX)

180 It also seems to me that the teaching field has been inundated by mentally ill individuals who are evangelists for mental illness, and want to mainstream their own mental illness by infecting as many healthy children as possible with it.
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30 Methods and Characteristics of Communism [h/t flounder]:

24. Deputizing the resentful, criminal, and sadistic.
26. The annihilation of history and identity.
27. The Destruction of the Family.
29. Extreme relaxation of sexual norms.
30. Fantasy Land.

https://tinyurl.com/4r5kammh

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (yLTnz)

181 I remember that happening in VA as well.

Everyone outside of NOVA and Blacksburg seemed pretty fucking based.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (LvTSG)

Charlottesville is worse Blacksburg. Plus a lot of Tidewater Area has gone to crap.

I live behind the lines in NOVA.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (soOQJ)

182 Muslims were just some heretical branch of Christianity where Muhammed basically just made himself Jesus - like David Koresh but with actual child f******.

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IIRC, a 14-yr old girl got pregnant with David Koresh's baby. Is that not young enough to be child molestation?

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (tQL7r)

183 Going through the Goth stage now means chopping your tits off. No more Dead Kennedy's t shirts, you just cut off your wiener

Oddly there is a popular member about goth girls with large tracts of land popular among the younger set.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (ESjRY)

184
Most of the rest are just typical teenagers who have discovered that claiming to be genderfluid or whatever is a great way to exert power over Mommy and Daddy by siccing commie teachers and government officials on them.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (n+4am)

Or getting out of work at school. Or getting a better grade. Or...
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland


True. My example is taken from the one "trans" person in my family, who has been a manipulative little shit since he was in elementary school.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (n+4am)

185 Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel. Defend one. We sure as hell can't do all three anymore.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (9iaW1)

186 114 >>> Imperfect kids, particularly boys, are problematic to public school teachers.


Schools seem to operate from the notion that there IS a perfect kid. Modern techniques assume that girls are the model, that boys are simply "imperfect girls" (because they behave differently) and that the parents ought to have no say in the matter of education. (Parent: "What can I do?" Admin: "Nothing, dear. You're not qualified.")

There really is no way to reform public education in its current form. It needs to be rebuilt from the ground up. I honestly can't imagine why anyone would send their little ones into the maw of today's indoctrination centers every day.

Posted by: red speck at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (gS3OW)

187 I bet there is at least one Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed - which...come on parents you can do better then that

There is! Someone with that triple-name was arrested at a convenience store in Minneapolis in the early 2000s.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 22, 2022 03:16 PM (ZGrMX)

188 181 Charlottesville is worse Blacksburg. Plus a lot of Tidewater Area has gone to crap.

I live behind the lines in NOVA.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (soOQJ)

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I bet Charlottesville is a sanctuary town and would welcome some illegal immigrants from TX and FL.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:16 PM (LvTSG)

189 One white woman at the top, and then a whole bunch of "Friends of Ilhan" underneath.

You didn't expect us to audit Somalis, did you?

We didn't want to lose our jobs, after all!

It was only a quarter of a billion dollars.

Posted by: Minnesota State Social Welfare Departments! at September 22, 2022 03:16 PM (I2/tG)

190 PRESIDENT BIDEN, ladies and gentlemen:

https://is.gd/nQAGc0

(FuxNews)

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 03:16 PM (Zz0t1)

191 Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania have announced that they will not admit people fleeing Putin's mobilization orders. Nice of them to help enforce Putin's policies.
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I don't blame them, something in their past may make them leery about allowing large numbers of military aged Russian men into their country.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 22, 2022 03:16 PM (fs1hN)

192 Real justice would be Tranny Shop Teacher getting his giant boobewies caught in a table saw. This would not end well. (BTW- I watched him use a chop saw and almost twice get his titty in a ringer)

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:16 PM (tiR3O)

193 >>Going through the Goth stage now means chopping your tits off. No more Dead Kennedy's t shirts, you just cut off your wiener


I was always a sucker for a petite Goth girl.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:17 PM (8mn8m)

194 The Daily Mail reports that the actual Russian mobilization callup is one million people, not 300,000.

Given that number, one wonders if Putin is planning on an all-out war with NATO.
.......

After watching the Russian delegate smiling during Joe's speech at the U.N. I wouldn't be surprised.

Posted by: wth at September 22, 2022 03:17 PM (v0R5T)

195 It's cold in Canada.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (8mn8m)

If those ridiculous fake gazongas were on an otherwise real cute actual female stripper, I wouldn't bother to cross the street to see her show.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2022 03:17 PM (hTKCl)

196 They were both redheads at that point? Yeah, I don't recall a big difference either.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I was working at a Camelot Music store back in the 80s and got to meet Tiffany during her mall tour. She sat in our store and signed albums for a couple of hours before the mall concert. Seemed like a nice girl.

Mostly what I remember is the fear that my ears would start bleeding from the high-pitched squealing from a concentrated mass of teenage girls that went on for the duration of that concert. (The stage was set-up right outside our store.) And I'm sure most dogs in the county had a bad hour that day.

Posted by: Biergood at September 22, 2022 03:17 PM (FQWHA)

197 Oh yeah, the movie was Mega Python vs Gateroid. And btw, she's Deborah Gibson now.

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at September 22, 2022 03:17 PM (ep37o)

198 During Confession this morning, the Good Father suggested I pray aloud every time I imagine myself terminating our sworn enemies whether they be in government or educating our children.

I'm pretty much up to about 6 or 7 Our Fathers now just from this thread alone.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2022 03:17 PM (LsEU/)

199 Gotta give him credit, those are serious ginormous boobehs with very erect nippledge.

Crowder said the boobs look like they came from Spencer Gifts and now I can't unsee that.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 22, 2022 03:18 PM (ZGrMX)

200 Apparently, it's based on Japanese anime, something like 'exploding milk porn' I sh#t you not.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2022 03:13 PM

They are fucking weird with their sex stuff. I mean not that we aren't but apparently they have vending machines to buy used panties, all the weird sick anime stuff etc. Yet they pixilate regular pron. Dohkay.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2022 03:18 PM (GwxCX)

201 IIRC, a 14-yr old girl got pregnant with David Koresh's baby. Is that not young enough to be child molestation?

Janet Reno said stuff like that, FBI director Sessions said no. I thought the resulting investigations backed up Sessions's take?

He certainly had sex with other adult women there, but I think the claim you are making came from Reno with little to no evidence.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:18 PM (ESjRY)

202 Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania have announced that they will not admit people fleeing Putin's mobilization orders. Nice of them to help enforce Putin's policies.

Posted by: The ARC of History!
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Those countries are rather small and close to the bear. I don't gainsay them the right to control entry to them.

You should be aiming at Germany because after all, Germany kindly let all sorts of refugees from the Middle East come there so why not Russians fleeing conscription.

Posted by: whig at September 22, 2022 03:18 PM (CXr4y)

203 182 Muslims were just some heretical branch of Christianity
Posted by: Prime Sister at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (tQL7r)

Um, no this is not correct.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 22, 2022 03:18 PM (MkuC5)

204 >>What kid at that age IS comfortable with their body? I wasn't. Hell I'm still not, but telling some prepubescent child that means they are trans or ghey etc. is child abuse.


That's the point -- they are going after every kid, using perfectly normal adolescent thoughts and emotions to convince them they are trans. It's sick. It's recruitment, it is not "care."

Posted by: Lizzy at September 22, 2022 03:18 PM (I/doM)

205 @163

>>The Daily Mail reports that the actual Russian mobilization callup is one million people, not 300,000.

I rate this as bovine scatology coming from the IC chuckle heads.

1M soldiers is half of the estimated total Russian armed forces, they've been fighting on the cheap for a reason, no way do they have the logistics to mobilize and get a million soldiers into the field let alone mount any sort of competent attack on NATO countries.

Everything is an Op.
Everything is Bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 22, 2022 03:19 PM (up/3i)

206 Charlottesville is worse Blacksburg. Plus a lot of Tidewater Area has gone to crap.

I live behind the lines in NOVA.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (soOQJ)

But, even in NoVa, there be a lot of folks on our side or willing to listen, especially in the Asian and Hispanic communities, b/c they aren't down with the area's "equity" focus...I think we're gonna see a split, thanks to Youngkin being in office, of crazy feds living in MD/DC and more reasonable and persuadable (and even ones already on our side) living here...that already kinda happened with the felonies are forever and parents rights policies we have enshrined in law...but Youngkin is gonna make it more clear...

Posted by: Nova local at September 22, 2022 03:19 PM (exHjb)

207 Remember when they pushed for no parental consent abortions down to 14 years old.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 22, 2022 03:09 PM (9iaW1)


Federal judges said you had a right to have an abortion. But not smoke, or drink, drive, own a gun, enter a contract, drop out of school...

Man, it's almost like they had an agenda unrelated to rights.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:19 PM (wYNBg)

208 >>Janet Reno said stuff like that


Her Dance Parties could get pretty wild.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:19 PM (8mn8m)

209 The Russian mobilization numbers are not what they appear, and to some extent the actual numbers achieved won't be known for some time.

There are lots of specific aspects to it all - certain specialties and experience are in much higher demand than others, and that will shape a lot of it. Training will consume considerable time before there's any direct affect on end-strengths.

For any real addition to combat power in the near term, first-line BTGs no used in the campaign so far would have to be shifted there from elsewhere, which is possible. With many of the mobilized resources going to fill the gaps created thereby. Almost certain specific mobilized elements will go to augmenting the BTGs directly involved so far, many of which are at 40-50% strength.

There's not the slightest prospect of all-out war with NATO, as it is far beyond Russia's capability and has no connection to its interests or objectives, and this mobilization won't change any of that.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2022 03:19 PM (OTzUX)

210 Back after Shrub was elected I trolled lefty boards and they were concerned that he would commit them to asylums.

Not because of politics but because, as they liked to put it, they had a different understanding of reality then Republicans.

Of course this was a stupid fear but the fact this is the way much of the left views the world has stuck with me.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:10 PM (ESjRY)

Let's not be hasty. A lot of deprogramming or worse is on the horizon.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 22, 2022 03:19 PM (yHsuS)

211 those ridiculous fake gazongas were on an otherwise real cute actual female stripper, I wouldn't bother to cross the street to see her show.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2022 03:17 PM (hTKCl)

Why aren't women protesting those gross parodies of females?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (eGTCV)

212 203 182 Muslims were just some heretical branch of Christianity
Posted by: Prime Sister at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (tQL7r)

Um, no this is not correct.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 22, 2022 03:18 PM (MkuC5)

Well there was also some cribbing off local Jews but the derived from Nestorianism has been the working theory for a long time. Muhammed shows up in Dante's Inferno in the Circle of Hell for schismatics.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (eYoxG)

213 What kid at that age IS comfortable with their body? I wasn't.

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I don't remember thinking much about mine. Seems like I was too busy thinking about the girls.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (Y5qcH)

214 >>There's not the slightest prospect of all-out war with NATO, as it is far beyond Russia's capability


You speak as if NATO could muster an actual army.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (8mn8m)

215
Am I the only the only one who found the strangest line here to be David Strom's "It may seem radical"?

Posted by: NCC at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (gVnna)

216 Some edu-pap piece I read posted somewhere was some dick chopping groomer telling kids as young as 10 that if they are uncomfortable with their bodies it means they are more than likely trannies and that they are special, etc. etc. My gut tells me that many of these kids are pushed into claiming this by their fucked up parents and schools telling them they get special attention. What kid at that age IS comfortable with their body? I wasn't. Hell I'm still not, but telling some prepubescent child that means they are trans or ghey etc. is child abuse.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (GwxCX)
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Munchausen's-by-Proxy.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (yLTnz)

217 Tim Kaine, who is up for re-election in 2024, probably hopes Youngkin runs for President

for he will be looking for a new job and by the looks of things, would be a formidable opponent for Kaine to face

Posted by: REDACTED at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (us2H3)

218 Thank God but Marxists are going to fight this

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 22, 2022 03:21 PM (xhxe8)

219 Speaking of Boobs..

Here is Lynda Carter in a film called American Superstar, skip to the 1 minute mark to see legitimate naked side boob.

https://tinyurl.com/48226wra

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 22, 2022 03:21 PM (up/3i)

220 188 181 Charlottesville is worse Blacksburg. Plus a lot of Tidewater Area has gone to crap.

I live behind the lines in NOVA.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (soOQJ)

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I bet Charlottesville is a sanctuary town and would welcome some illegal immigrants from TX and FL.
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Charlottesville is Spook Town (Spook as in Spies - Intel). There is a reason they chose Charlottesville to launch the Hillary Mime of White Supremacist Racists cuz there is a shit ton Fed/Mil Intell outfits in town. Plus they have nerve center of the Agit Prop Theater Group on faculty at UVA. It helped that the VA Gov was Terry McAulife, one of two lickspittle Hillary foot warmers from Syracuse, NY: Mcauilfe and Harvey Weinstein. There is very little of Virginia left in Charlottesville these days.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:21 PM (tiR3O)

221 You didn't expect us to audit Somalis, did you?

We didn't want to lose our jobs, after all!

It was only a quarter of a billion dollars.
Posted by: Minnesota State Social Welfare Departments! at September 22, 2022 03:16 PM

HAHAHAAHH LOL. Well done.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 22, 2022 03:21 PM (GwxCX)

222 I don't blame them, something in their past may make them leery about allowing large numbers of military aged Russian men into their country.

The problem is that you want to encourage resistance to the mobilization - allowing people to flee helps that. You want to encourage deserters.

And they run the risk of the men that they are rejecting may cross their border anyway - in military uniform and with heavy supporting firepower, given where Putin is apparently going.

Posted by: Minnesota State Social Welfare Departments! at September 22, 2022 03:21 PM (I2/tG)

223 I bet there is at least one Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed - which...come on parents you can do better then that
Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:11 PM (ESjRY)


Mohammed Mohammed Durkadurka KaBoom

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:21 PM (wYNBg)

224 >>Here is Lynda Carter in a film called American Superstar, skip to the 1 minute mark to see legitimate naked side boob.


With Lynda Carter, sideboob is more than enough.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:22 PM (8mn8m)

225 217 Tim Kaine, who is up for re-election in 2024, probably hopes Youngkin runs for President

for he will be looking for a new job and by the looks of things, would be a formidable opponent for Kaine to face
Posted by: REDACTED at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (us2H3)

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Trump is going to announce for 2024 pretty much the day after the midterms. He's going to get commitments from pretty much every major donor who would want to challenge the GOPe, and quite a few of the GOPe's donors as well.

The money picture is going to pretty much instantly determine that Trump doesn't get a serious challenge from the right.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:22 PM (LvTSG)

226 There appears to be a shit ton of mentally ill people at the moment. Since they are so severely mentally ill, they don't recognize their illness and think we normals are the ones that are sick. Therapy doesn't seem to help these people it seems to validate their illness. There is no way to help them. They need to be isolated for the protection of society.

Posted by: Megthered at September 22, 2022 03:23 PM (AdxHD)

227 Good for Youngkin. It seems like a pretty obvious thing to me.

We have various people running for school board in the communities around her. Most of the signs say nothing about the candidates, but one guy has a sign that says his name, that he's running for school board and "Respect parents". I thought that was a smart slogan.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2022 02:49 PM (vH/6k)

Good to see. No, it's not a spreading brushfire yet, but it's still good to witness small flames that can be coaxed into larger ones.
And thank you, Fenelon, for the article about August Landsmesser a few threads back. Had not know any of that.

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at September 22, 2022 03:23 PM (Zg/67)

228 194 The Daily Mail reports that the actual Russian mobilization callup is one million people, not 300,000. Given that number, one wonders if Putin is planning on an all-out war with NATO.
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After watching the Russian delegate smiling during Joe's speech at the U.N. I wouldn't be surprised. Posted by: wth
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That would be incredibly stupid of Putin and more reminiscent of 'that man' wanting to burn down everything when he was losing.

Even China wants no part of that game.

Posted by: whig at September 22, 2022 03:24 PM (CXr4y)

229 *known, dang it....

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at September 22, 2022 03:24 PM (Zg/67)

230 There are lots of specific aspects to it all - certain specialties and experience are in much higher demand than others, and that will shape a lot of it.

The problem is that the regions are in charge of enforcing the draft quotas, and a number of the regions appear to be grabbing everyone. It's not like they have a list of military specialists that they are specifically targeting.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2022 03:24 PM (I2/tG)

231 97 In the end, they just wanted it more. That's the story. They wanted this country more than we did, and they took it. The end.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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YD,
There is no such thing as the end of history. It will go on regardless of what anyone cares about and today's fashions will be on the scrap heap of tomorrow.

The idea of the end of history is nonsense promulgated by utopians pushing historical determinism such as Marx. In a word, bullshit.
Posted by: whig at September 22, 2022 03:03 PM (CXr4y)

From a political standpoint, there will always be a struggle between freedom and safety (and the definitions of those terms).

History will end in only one way - as predetermined in Scripture.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 22, 2022 03:24 PM (9miN6)

232 The Daily Mail reports that the actual Russian mobilization callup is one million people, not 300,000.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2022 03:12 PM (I2/tG)


All reports, by both sides, are lies. Even if they're accidentally the truth, they're lies.

If we, as a nation, were to ignore the whole thing, the only effect it would have on us would be a few hundred billion dollars less spending and a slightly lower likelihood of being bombed.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:24 PM (wYNBg)

233 220 There is very little of Virginia left in Charlottesville these days.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:21 PM (tiR3O)

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I have a three act play idea set in Charlottesville.

There was a day when Jefferson was finishing the work to establish the University of Virginia when he, James Madison, and current president James Monroe all met in the small town to finish up some paper work and discuss some matters.

It would be structured with Jefferson on stage first, Madison joining him at some point in the first act, and Monroe joining them for most of the second act. Monroe would leave before the second act ends, and Madison would leave about halfway through the third, leaving Jefferson alone again.

Just the idea of three presidents meeting like that intrigues me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:24 PM (LvTSG)

234 Sideboob is Enough is my favorite Ian Fleming novel.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2022 03:25 PM (44ww/)

235
You speak as if NATO could muster an actual army.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (8mn8m)


Don't be silly, we're willing to fight down to the last American Soldier.

Posted by: Germany at September 22, 2022 03:25 PM (n+4am)

236 Yeah, hard to fault the Baltic states for not being on board with that. "Hey, we're fleeing Russia. All you know about us is that we don't want to fight in Ukraine. Let us in!" Who, other than the United States, has borders so porous and politicians dumb as to allow asylum under those conditions?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 22, 2022 03:25 PM (ppBhU)

237 Speaking of which, check out the Minnesota Covid Fraud cases filed yesterday. One white woman at the top, and then a whole bunch of "Friends of Ilhan" underneath.
Posted by: Wally at September 22, 2022 03:12 PM (FJYfm)


It has been the big story here in Minnesota, on all the TV News with multiple stories, including lawfare by the "Feeding the Future" charity against the MN Dept of Ed attempts of accounting and oversight.

Not once did they mention anything about National Origin of the alleged criminal conspirators.

This scandal is even bigger that the Somali Daycare Scandal of 2015, where they started with paying Somali mothers wages to "supervise" their own kids and charging MN state for both the kids and their Mothers' wages in a daycare setting to a no show pay the mothers and charge for the kids when they do not even show up to daycare for weeks and months.

Posted by: rd at September 22, 2022 03:26 PM (Z32m1)

238 Am I the only the only one who found the strangest line here to be David Strom's "It may seem radical"?

Posted by: NCC at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (gVnna)

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Sarcasm?

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 22, 2022 03:26 PM (yLTnz)

239 There's not the slightest prospect of all-out war with NATO, as it is far beyond Russia's capability and has no connection to its interests or objectives, and this mobilization won't change any of that.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2022 03:19 PM (OTzUX)



Hard to say.

Most of the European population has been disarmed. The only fighters they have are the z Muslim rape gangs they imported.

Their militaries are largely gutted in favor of letting American defend them. And the American military couldn't even defeat goat herders and camel jockeys.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 22, 2022 03:26 PM (K1TxI)

240 Youngkin is smart and tricky
but so far, it's the dims he is tricking
he exhibits a real "aw shucks" demeanor
he is also very tall
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He's Dutch.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (tiR3O)


So was my grandmother. It's a family secret though.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:26 PM (wYNBg)

241 I work in the Child protective services industry and it is 100 percent true that all of the children who are experiencing gender dysphasia come from abusive and disfunctional homes. They get a LOT of power in the system and can control their workers and parents by claiming they are trans.

It is truly disgusting to have to use their preferred name and pronoun. But I understand the psychological reason behind the young adult wanting to be someone else. If your father had sex with you as a 14 year old, I can understand wanting to be a boy and not a girl.

Posted by: Czech Chick at September 22, 2022 03:26 PM (haWye)

242 He certainly had sex with other adult women there, but I think the claim you are making came from Reno with little to no evidence.
Posted by: 18-1

////

Well, maybe not. But I remember seeing the girl in question w/said baby....and she looked all of 12 or 13.

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 22, 2022 03:27 PM (tQL7r)

243 The quote from the Sheik in the movie "The Impostors" is of particular cromulence to this subject...

Posted by: goozer at September 22, 2022 03:27 PM (nQJfz)

244 Trump is going to announce for 2024 pretty much the day after the midterms. He's going to get commitments from pretty much every major donor who would want to challenge the GOPe, and quite a few of the GOPe's donors as well.

The money picture is going to pretty much instantly determine that Trump doesn't get a serious challenge from the right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:22 PM (LvTSG)

call me cynical but there is a lot more to the stuation than meets the eye
I believe there will be some grand bargain struck between the DOJ/FBI and the republicans

Posted by: REDACTED at September 22, 2022 03:27 PM (us2H3)

245 IIRC, a 14-yr old girl got pregnant with David Koresh's baby. Is that not young enough to be child molestation?
Posted by: Prime Sister at September 22, 2022 03:15 PM (tQL7r)


Assuming it's true...yes.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:27 PM (wYNBg)

246 You speak as if NATO could muster an actual army.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (8mn8m)
==========
Don't be silly, we're willing to fight down to the last American Soldier.
Posted by: Germany at September 22, 2022 03:25 PM (n+4am)


And the Poles, we hate the Pollocks too!

Posted by: Germany at September 22, 2022 03:28 PM (Z32m1)

247 Youngkin is smart and tricky
but so far, it's the dims he is tricking


There was a lot of concern about him when he was elected, but he and Mayores and Sears have quietly done a good job.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 22, 2022 03:28 PM (ZGrMX)

248 A lot of Asians send their kids to public schools to screw around and socialize during the day and send them to private schools nights and weekends to get a real education.

Posted by: Regular joe at September 22, 2022 03:29 PM (nnp+f)

249 "given where Putin is apparently going."

The left bank of the Oskol? Back to Izyum? Back across the Ingulets? Clearing the rest of Donetsk oblast?



Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2022 03:29 PM (OTzUX)

250 This scandal is even bigger that the Somali Daycare Scandal of 2015, where they started with paying Somali mothers wages to "supervise" their own kids and charging MN state for both the kids and their Mothers' wages in a daycare setting to a no show pay the mothers and charge for the kids when they do not even show up to daycare for weeks and months.
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Its amazing what a country with a mean IQ of 68 produces in grift and graft.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:30 PM (tiR3O)

251 Let's not quibble about how the children at the Koresh compound were or were not treated. The important thing is that we purified them all with righteous, cleansing fire.

Posted by: Your Government at September 22, 2022 03:30 PM (ppBhU)

252 Those who can't do, teach.

Those who can't teach, transition.



Those who can't transition, join the Lincoln Project.
Those who can't join the Lincoln Project, write for the Bulwark.
Everyone else is Jonah.

Posted by: Hands at September 22, 2022 03:30 PM (786Ro)

253 Well there was also some cribbing off local Jews but the derived from Nestorianism has been the working theory for a long time. Muhammed shows up in Dante's Inferno in the Circle of Hell for schismatics.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (eYoxG)

Christians (people of the book) are denounced outright and always in the Koran. See Sura 1.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 22, 2022 03:30 PM (MkuC5)

254 He's Dutch.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (tiR3O)


so he will skate right into the Whitehouse

Posted by: REDACTED at September 22, 2022 03:30 PM (us2H3)

255 And they run the risk of the men that they are rejecting may cross their border anyway - in military uniform and with heavy supporting firepower, given where Putin is apparently going.

Posted by: Minnesota State
----------------------------------
Hordes of ill trained and ill equipped conscripts hurled at the enemy is not a recipe for success nor is the peculiar rail based logistic system and relatively immobile heavy artillery.

So far, most of the Russian war effort has shown the Russian army resembling the Czar's armies in 1905 and 1914 more than that of the Soviet Union in later WWII.

Posted by: whig at September 22, 2022 03:30 PM (CXr4y)

256 >> A lot of Asians send their kids to public schools to screw around and socialize during the day and send them to private schools nights and weekends to get a real education.


All of the Korean kids in our system were enrolled at a Korean School. They were always in the top of their classes.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:30 PM (8mn8m)

257 If a child can choose to transition and an adult teacher can assist the child's transition then a child can make any life decision it chooses and an adult can assist the child in accomplishing that goal.


Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM (4B3eq)

258 But, even in NoVa, there be a lot of folks on our side or willing to listen, especially in the Asian and Hispanic communities, b/c they aren't down with the area's "equity" focus...I think we're gonna see a split, thanks to Youngkin being in office, of crazy feds living in MD/DC and more reasonable and persuadable (and even ones already on our side) living here...that already kinda happened with the felonies are forever and parents rights policies we have enshrined in law...but Youngkin is gonna make it more clear...
Posted by: Nova local at September 22, 2022 03:19 PM (exHjb)

Do you actually think the bolsheviks in Arlington/Fairfax/Alexandria/Loudoun/Prince William are going to negotiate anything? Good luck! Looking forward to the day of waving bye-bye to the BS that goes on around NOVA.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM (soOQJ)

259 248 A lot of Asians send their kids to public schools to screw around and socialize during the day and send them to private schools nights and weekends to get a real education.
Posted by: Regular joe at September 22, 2022 03:29 PM (nnp+f)

Been doing that for a long time. When I was a kid in Hawaii most of the Japanese kids had to go to their 2nd school at the end of the public school day.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM (UuD2k)

260 Teachers today are the bottom-of-the-barrel kind of people.

Posted by: Seems Legit at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM (Lv84X)

261 >>Its amazing what a country with a mean IQ of 68 produces in grift and graft.


Well. Since they got rid of the Clit, they suddenly had a lot of Free Time on their hands.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM (8mn8m)

262 It's sad that we have to have rules like this, but it's really the left trying to brainwash society into thinking all this is normal and acceptable. It isn't.
It's sick and perverted.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM (NpAcC)

263 The left bank of the Oskol? Back to Izyum? Back across the Ingulets? Clearing the rest of Donetsk oblast?
Posted by: rhomboid

He has given his word to go no further than the Islets of Langerhans.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM (LsEU/)

264 Yes the progression went..

We just want to come out of the closet > We just want our relationships recognized > we just want to marry > We just want to be in the bodies we want > We just want to chop the body parts off of your kids > We just want to f**k your children.

This progression has taken a little over a generation to develop but here we are.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 22, 2022 03:07 PM (up/3i)

Which is why my positions on the gay issues have changed. I was for tolerance in my younger days.

I now see the results of "tolerance." Clearly a society that wants to survive cannot allow them "out of the closet."

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM (N1tpc)

265 Well, maybe not. But I remember seeing the girl in question w/said baby....and she looked all of 12 or 13.

So that's evidence someone had sex with a 14,13, or 12 year old girl - whichever age she was, or appeared to be? Why would you assume it was Koresh if the
investigation at the time did not?

This isn't to argue Koresh wasn't a bad guy...though murdering his whole group of followers seems...extreme don't you think?, this is to contrast with the Koran that says Muhammed married a girl of 6 years of age and had sex with her when she was 9.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM (ESjRY)

266 Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette

You are most welcome, barkingmad59.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM (vH/6k)

267 No, it's not hard to say whether Russia plans or seeks an all-out war with NATO.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2022 03:32 PM (OTzUX)

268 Why aren't women protesting those gross parodies of females?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 22, 2022 03:20 PM (eGTCV)


I believe that there have been some but, apparently, they're not "real" women.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:32 PM (wYNBg)

269 249 "given where Putin is apparently going."

The left bank of the Oskol? Back to Izyum? Back across the Ingulets? Clearing the rest of Donetsk oblast?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2022 03:29 PM



Disney World!

Posted by: Hands at September 22, 2022 03:32 PM (786Ro)

270 in the antiques business, it's

those who can, point
and
those who can't, carry

Posted by: REDACTED at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM (us2H3)

271 240 Youngkin is smart and tricky
but so far, it's the dims he is tricking
he exhibits a real "aw shucks" demeanor
he is also very tall
------------
He's Dutch.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (tiR3O)

So was my grandmother. It's a family secret though.
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So are my grandparents. Western Carolinas and Southwest Va has a ton of Dutch settlers. Its kind of why Davidson was such a great Basketball team for so long.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM (tiR3O)

272 My thought is if Russia is calling up 300 thousand or a million they are losing

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM (xhxe8)

273 Either way, we better send a $100 billion to Zelenskyy, quick.

Posted by: wth at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM (v0R5T)

274 The left bank of the Oskol? Back to Izyum? Back across the Ingulets? Clearing the rest of Donetsk oblast?
Posted by: rhomboid

He has given his word to go no further than the Islets of Langerhans.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM


My gut feeling about that isn't good.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM (Wnv9h)

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Posted by: OUTLOOK PST REPAIR TOOL at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM (dDWM7)

276 Trump is going to announce for 2024 pretty much the day after the midterms. He's going to get commitments from pretty much every major donor who would want to challenge the GOPe, and quite a few of the GOPe's donors as well.

The money picture is going to pretty much instantly determine that Trump doesn't get a serious challenge from the right.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:22 PM (LvTSG)


This is pretty much what George W. Bush did in 1999 and 2000. He got commitments/ promises from all the major GOP donors, and won in a walk.

They tried to do the same thing with wet noodle, "please clap" Jebbie Bush in 2016 and failed miserably.

Ted Cruz and Donald Trump upset those plans.

Posted by: Germany at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM (Z32m1)

277 IIRC, a 14-yr old girl got pregnant with David Koresh's baby. Is that not young enough to be child molestation?
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Assuming it's true...yes.


And reason to arrest him and send him to prison for a good long time. But not reason for what the Feds did, which is what Reno was trying to say.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 22, 2022 03:34 PM (nfrXX)

278 >>, it's not hard to say whether Russia plans or seeks an all-out war with NATO.


THat is their ultimate lever and has been since day 1.


They know NATO is a joke as a military org and they know the only real power in NATO comes from the US.

So. They are focusing on that to force the hand of the Euros. And they merely need to wait out the coming months to completely destroy the powerbase of the EuroZone.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:34 PM (8mn8m)

279 30 Methods and Characteristics of Communism [h/t flounder]:

https://tinyurl.com/4r5kammh

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 22, 2022 03:14 PM (yLTnz)

Yep. It is a good historical framework for understanding what is seemingly not understandable.

And maybe getting your mind right.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 22, 2022 03:34 PM (yHsuS)

280 Western Carolinas and Southwest Va has a ton of Dutch settlers. Its kind of why Davidson was such a great Basketball team for so long.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM


I don't get it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 22, 2022 03:34 PM (Wnv9h)

281 Dr. oz pays drug addicts to shoot up on camera to film political commercial! (tyt)

Posted by: raimondo at September 22, 2022 03:35 PM (L36Sc)

282 Yes, it is incredible that this would have to be decreed. But consider how the Left has spread its norm-abolishing infection across the wider culture, and what is required to merely stay sanely afloat anywhere anymore.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 22, 2022 03:35 PM (H8QX8)

283 Oooh, new spam!

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2022 03:35 PM (DRSnL)

284 >>My thought is if Russia is calling up 300 thousand or a million they are losing


This is merely an optics move. Doubling down after the global push to play up the Ukranian Offensive.
And that Offensive was almost all astroturf as far as I can tell.

Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:36 PM (8mn8m)

285 IIRC, a 14-yr old girl got pregnant with David Koresh's baby. Is that not young enough to be child molestation?
--------
Assuming it's true...yes.

And reason to arrest him and send him to prison for a good long time. But not reason for what the Feds did, which is what Reno was trying to say.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 22, 2022 03:34 PM (nfrXX)

The Left: If we don't burn them out, then the children will be abused. Sounds pretty much like leftist reasoning.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 22, 2022 03:37 PM (yHsuS)

286 Rainondo - well, your Mom should know!!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2022 03:37 PM (LsEU/)

287 283 Oooh, new spam!
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2022 03:35 PM (DRSnL)

In all seriousness, you, madam, are a ray of sunshine.

Plus, Spam.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 22, 2022 03:37 PM (MkuC5)

288
That would be incredibly stupid of Putin and more reminiscent of 'that man' wanting to burn down everything when he was losing.

Even China wants no part of that game.

Posted by: whig at September 22, 2022 03:24 PM


China is enjoying buying bargain basement energy from Putin. That energy stops flowing when Moscow is under twenty feet of rubble. Not rocket science.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 22, 2022 03:37 PM (y3pKJ)

289 Russian airlines have stopped selling tickets to Russian men aged 18 to 65 unless they can provide evidence of approval to travel from the Ministry of Defense.

All flights from Russia to available foreign destinations were sold out Wednesday after President Vladimir Putin declared a “partial” mobilization of the country’s 25 million reservists.

Flights from Moscow to the capitals of Georgia, Turkey and Armenia — which do not require visas for Russians — for Sept. 21 were unavailable within minutes of Putin’s announcement

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 22, 2022 03:37 PM (4B3eq)

290 I have a three act play idea set in Charlottesville.

---------

You could throw in an occasional conversation with the Ghost of the Country's father ... it is still mind-blowing to me that four of the first five presidents were Virginians, with #2 and #6 of course being Adamses.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 22, 2022 03:37 PM (soESV)

291 Retardo!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2022 03:37 PM (W/9Bb)

292 Posted by: OUTLOOK PST REPAIR TOOL at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM (dDWM7)

*jaw drop*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 22, 2022 03:38 PM (yHsuS)

293 Here is Lynda Carter in a film called American Superstar, skip to the 1 minute mark to see legitimate naked side boob.

That is actually a cut from Bobbie Joe and the outlaw where she goes frontal topless later in the movie.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at September 22, 2022 03:38 PM (CecP5)

294 Raimondo is back! I was afraid the monkeypox had got him.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (UuD2k)

295 290 You could throw in an occasional conversation with the Ghost of the Country's father ... it is still mind-blowing to me that four of the first five presidents were Virginians, with #2 and #6 of course being Adamses.
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 22, 2022 03:37 PM (soESV)

=========

A remnant of the aristocratic nature of British society mixed with Virginia's general power in the early Republic?

That they were generally good, intelligent men was the miracle.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (LvTSG)

296 This is merely an optics move. Doubling down after the global push to play up the Ukranian Offensive.
And that Offensive was almost all astroturf as far as I can tell.
--------------
Yep. Remember, this entire 'war' was caused by Biden saying the taking of Donbass was a negotiable problem.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (tiR3O)

297 The GOP already threw one election to get rid of trump.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (BI+67)

298 My thought is if Russia is calling up 300 thousand or a million they are losing
Posted by: Skip's phone at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM (xhxe

The Russians have had a smaller force than Ukraine in this war since the beginning. Putin was only looking for a limited war with limited goals. Instead the neocons and their irrational Russia madness are trying to turn it into some kind of Armageddon. They're willing to fight to the last Ukrainian to get it. Hey the Big Guy gets his 10% though.

Posted by: WiNO at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (EpDzw)

299 If Oz is paying drug addicts to shoot up you must be a real fan.

Posted by: wth at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (v0R5T)

300 Posted by: raimondo at September 22, 2022 03:35 PM (L36Sc)



You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (Zz0t1)

301 So are my grandparents. Western Carolinas and Southwest Va has a ton of Dutch settlers. Its kind of why Davidson was such a great Basketball team for so long.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM (tiR3O)


Fun fact, my grandmother wasn't actually Dutch. That's from Blazing Saddles.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (wYNBg)

302 Retardo's mom gives Baloney sandwiches to hobos for oral favors.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (W/9Bb)

303 If you ain’t Dutch, you ain’t much.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (Hn+0J)

304 What lever? The Russians have been unable to even clear or secure Donetsk, which they partially (via locals) already had prior to the operation. Their initial strategy was a failure (though not insane), they were very incompetent in even accomplishing the gains they did in the east (some which were given up without a fight because they just don't have the resources to defend them), as a result the combat power of their first-line BTGs has been greatly reduced.

The mobilization is aimed at directly and indirectly trying to recover some of that lost combat power.

A very modest instrument (the Ukrainian military) with NATO recon/intel/command advice has given the (very small, in transition - no, not that kind, and in any case flexible-defense oriented) Russian military more than it can handle. There's not the slightest prospect of Russia taking on NATO.

Without even talking about the basic fact that such a thing has nothing to do with their objectives.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2022 03:40 PM (OTzUX)

305 The GOP already threw one election to get rid of trump.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (BI+67)

And suffered little to no consequences. They will do it again.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 22, 2022 03:40 PM (yHsuS)

306 Posted by: OUTLOOK PST REPAIR TOOL at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM (dDWM7)


Huh. That's new.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)

307 In all seriousness, you, madam, are a ray of sunshine.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at September 22, 2022 03:37 PM (MkuC5)


Thank you! I do what I can.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (DRSnL)

308 So. They are focusing on that to force the hand of the Euros. And they merely need to wait out the coming months to completely destroy the powerbase of the EuroZone.
Posted by: garrett at September 22, 2022 03:34 PM (8mn8m)

So this. And we are following right along in Europe's footyprints by destroying our own energy sector.

And Biden's Cabal was cynical, but smart, when he has used the Strategic Oil Reserve to lower worldwide oil prices, which cut the political pressure on him to reverse his anti Carbon agenda. But that will only last past this election... as the reserve will run out of oil.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (oHd/0)

309 @203

>>where she goes frontal topless later in the movie.

** BUNK **

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (up/3i)

310 That would be incredibly stupid of Putin and more reminiscent of 'that man' wanting to burn down everything when he was losing.

Even China wants no part of that game.
Posted by: whig at September 22, 2022 03:24 PM (CXr4y)

conscripting unwilling soldiers is a 19th century answer that will not work in a 21st century war. It's madness.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (trdmm)

311 Huh. That's new.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 03:40 PM (Zz0t1)


I just said that, dammit.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (DRSnL)

312 And reason to arrest him and send him to prison for a good long time. But not reason for what the Feds did, which is what Reno was trying to say.
Posted by: Oddbob at September 22, 2022 03:34 PM (nfrXX)


Further, child molestation isn't a federal matter so even less reason to incinerate the entire group.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (wYNBg)

313 I always wanted a Tiffany / Debbie Gibson cage match, winner take all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)

----

www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gkobeYcJtQ

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (zL564)

314 The GOP already threw one election to get rid of trump.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (BI+67)

If the Dems cheat in elections of unapproved GOPe candidates, the party will see nothing.

Posted by: WiNO at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (EpDzw)

315 You can call me Mohammad or you can call me Mohammad Mohammad but you don't have to call me Mohammad Mohammad Mohammad!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (yikp0)

316 Fun fact, my grandmother wasn't actually Dutch. That's from Blazing Saddles.
---------------
New Fun Fact - now you know who settled SW VA and Western Carolinas following the Revolution. There were a lot of English and Scotts, too.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:42 PM (tiR3O)

317 Willowed again, but y'all need this song if you don't have it. It's so much the song of our times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wj8LDv4qk8

And good for Youngkin. We need a whole lot more of this. And more of things I can't say on a family blog.

Posted by: Plum Duff, North America's newest cryptid at September 22, 2022 03:43 PM (hVilD)

318 Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene
@RepMTG
1h
@Liz_Cheney
is so committed to Joe Biden and the Democrats that she just intentionally skipped an anti-police vote that Republicans could have defeated.

She clearly supports the Democrat war on police.

Go ahead and switch parties Liz before you’re out of office.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 22, 2022 03:43 PM (NpAcC)

319 Posted by: raimondo at September 22, 2022 03:35 PM (L36Sc)

I assume this is just a pay-off to Hunter.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:44 PM (wYNBg)

320 Western Carolinas and Southwest Va has a ton of Dutch settlers. Its kind of why Davidson was such a great Basketball team for so long.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:33 PM

I don't get it.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 22, 2022 03:34 PM (Wnv9h)


The Dutch are the tallest Europeans on average.

Given they have been great farmers for centuries? Nutrition may have something to do with it.

Posted by: Germany at September 22, 2022 03:44 PM (Z32m1)

321 I asked this yesterday but got no reply:

If Ronald Reagan was Irish, why was his nickname “Dutch?”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2022 03:44 PM (Hn+0J)

322 off damned sock!

Posted by: rd at September 22, 2022 03:44 PM (Z32m1)

323 conscripting unwilling soldiers is a 19th century answer that will not work in a 21st century war. It's madness.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (trdmm)

Won't work in the US or EU... other cultures? Still use conscription.

Hell, we used it in Viet Nam.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 22, 2022 03:45 PM (oHd/0)

324
I just said that, dammit.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (DRSnL)



*giggle*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 03:45 PM (Zz0t1)

325 288
That would be incredibly stupid of Putin and more reminiscent of 'that man' wanting to burn down everything when he was losing.

Even China wants no part of that game.

Posted by: whig at September 22, 2022 03:24 PM
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VDH's podcast today addresses Putin's predicament and his options. It's...interesting.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 22, 2022 03:45 PM (4B3eq)

326 Won't work in the US or EU... other cultures? Still use conscription.

Hell, we used it in Viet Nam.


As did the Vietnamese communists.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:46 PM (ESjRY)

327 Do you actually think the bolsheviks in Arlington/Fairfax/Alexandria/Loudoun/Prince William are going to negotiate anything? Good luck! Looking forward to the day of waving bye-bye to the BS that goes on around NOVA.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at September 22, 2022 03:31 PM (soOQJ)

No, but I see some of them getting voted out.

Right now, the council is 9-1 and the school board is 100% dem in Fairfax. I don't see that lasting the next 2 years...

Posted by: Nova local at September 22, 2022 03:46 PM (exHjb)

328 I asked this yesterday but got no reply:

If Ronald Reagan was Irish, why was his nickname “Dutch?”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 22, 2022


***
Newsmax ran one of its mini-biographies earlier this year, this one about Reagan, his background before the White House, during, and after. I have a feeling they mentioned where the nickname came from -- but now I can't recall it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 22, 2022 03:46 PM (J2vNu)

329 I think the lesson from Putin's mobilization NOW is that limited war is a very risky thing - as we found out in Iraq and 'Stan as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 22, 2022 03:46 PM (ESjRY)

330
And the American military couldn't even defeat goat herders and camel jockeys.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 22, 2022 03:26 PM (K1TxI)



As dysfunctional as the US military is, it's perfectly capable of pounding anyone short of the ChiComs into paste. Even now, with the pronoun platoons they've created.

The big problem is that the Deep State and military brass won't LET them pound foreign pissant miscreants into paste.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2022 03:46 PM (n+4am)

331 NOOD, you mangy dogs.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 22, 2022 03:46 PM (ppBhU)

332 The Dutch are the tallest Europeans on average.

Given they have been great farmers for centuries? Nutrition may have something to do with it.
Posted by: Germany at September 22, 2022 03:44 PM


Narrator: He actually did get it.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 22, 2022 03:47 PM (Wnv9h)

333 Nood...the fired FBI whistleblower

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at September 22, 2022 03:47 PM (wYNBg)

334 Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev said on Thursday that any weapons in Moscow's arsenal, including strategic nuclear weapons, could be used to defend territories annexed to Russia from Ukraine.

Medvedev, who also serves as deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council, said that referendums planned by Russian-installed and separatist authorities in large swathes of Ukrainian territory will take place, and "there is no going back".

"Therefore, various retired idiots with generals' stripes do not need to scare us with talk about a NATO strike on Crimea," Medvedev wrote on Telegram. "Hypersonic [missiles] are guaranteed to be able to reach targets in Europe and the United States much faster."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 22, 2022 03:47 PM (I2/tG)

335 BTW, real feminists in Iran are starting a revolution -- Teheran has shut down the internet in the city.

||Iran has shut off the internet in parts of Tehran and Kurdistan, and blocked access to platforms such as Instagram and WhatsApp, in an attempt to curb a growing protest movement that has relied on social media to document dissent.

The protests, which were sparked on 16 September after the death of a 22-year-old Kurdish woman in police custody, show no sign of subsiding. On Thursday, protesters torched police stations and vehicles in several cities.||

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 22, 2022 03:47 PM (yikp0)

336 I read my frnd Raimongol's post, and I just wanna say jdjfjrjjdhdhdbbebvdbbdvwhiskkd.

Posted by: John Fetterman at September 22, 2022 03:47 PM (hDIl9)

337 I always wanted a Tiffany / Debbie Gibson cage match, winner take all.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 22, 2022 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gkobeYcJtQ
Posted by: Darth Randall at September 22, 2022 03:41 PM (zL564)
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Darn. I was hoping for Celebrity Deathmatch claymation gore..."Let's get it on!" - Lane Mills

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 22, 2022 03:48 PM (YIVH2)

338 If Ronald Reagan was Irish, why was his nickname “Dutch?”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

According to the interwebs, the nickname was bestowed by his father to the young lad as he was "a fat little Dutchman".

So now you know!

Posted by: Tonypete at September 22, 2022 03:48 PM (LsEU/)

339 Reagan's "Dutch" nickname: https://tinyurl.com/2p8txrxp

The nickname “Dutch" was first applied to Ronald Reagan, in childhood, by his father. According to Reagan's autobiographies, he received the nickname soon after his birth, from his father's remark that he looked like “a fat little Dutchman." Reagan has also stated, however, that his father gave him the nickname because of the “Dutch boy" haircut, once popular for little boys, that his mother gave him when he was a toddler. When asked to reconcile the two stories of the nickname's origin, Reagan stated that the haircut strengthened the use of the nickname.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 22, 2022 03:48 PM (J2vNu)

340 05 The GOP already threw one election to get rid of trump.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (BI+67)

And suffered little to no consequences. They will do it again.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 22, 2022 03:40 PM (yHsuS)

And they would do the same thing to DeSantis.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 22, 2022 03:48 PM (BdMk6)

341 I read my frnd Raimongol's post, and I just wanna say jdjfjrjjdhdhdbbebvdbbdvwhiskkd.
Posted by: John Fetterman at September 22, 2022 03:47 PM (hDIl9)
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That's still more articulate than anything raimondo has ever said.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 22, 2022 03:48 PM (YIVH2)

342 >>where she goes frontal topless later in the movie.

** BUNK **


I have the movie on Blu-Ray, so its not bunk.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at September 22, 2022 03:49 PM (CecP5)

343 Of course discount- Rumpelstiltskins throw tantrums, when boxed in parents at the tax spinning wheel, answer back with xeir real real names: groomers. For feign, not fair! Our poor sinecures ...*sob*

(Do I need the sarcasm tag? Nah, you guys are good.)

Posted by: ArmChair in sin at September 22, 2022 03:50 PM (mzGjb)

344 A remnant of the aristocratic nature of British society mixed with Virginia's general power in the early Republic?

That they were generally good, intelligent men was the miracle.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at September 22, 2022 03:39 PM (LvTSG)

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1. Makes sense (we do tend to forget the aristocratic tradition); and
2. Indeed. Some even say "divine."

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 22, 2022 03:50 PM (soESV)

345 Senate banking hearing today Jami Dimon was asked when they were going to divest Oil & Gas

He responded to the effect that it would be madness and destroy the country.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 22, 2022 03:50 PM (4B3eq)

346 Didn't read it but saw headline Dr Oz took addicts off street to get help cleaning up so doubt it Raymond

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 22, 2022 03:50 PM (xhxe8)

347 VDH's podcast today addresses Putin's predicament and his options. It's...interesting.

Posted by: Braenyard
----------------
It should be, he is a noted military historian.

Posted by: whig at September 22, 2022 03:51 PM (CXr4y)

348
Hell, we used it in Viet Nam.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 22, 2022 03:45 PM (oHd/0)

and a lot of officers got fragged because of it. Our own military will be the first to say they never want to go back to those methods again. Countries with good social cohesion and a sense of purpose can use conscription and have it be somewhat effective. (American Civil War, WW2) Countries without that cohesion see their armies disintegrate in the field because of it. (Russia, 1917; Iraqi Army in the Gulf Wars.)

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2022 03:51 PM (trdmm)

349 Shocked I tell you about nood

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 22, 2022 03:51 PM (xhxe8)

350
I have the movie on Blu-Ray, so its not bunk.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president


Firefly reference...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 22, 2022 03:51 PM (n+4am)

351 321 I asked this yesterday but got no reply:

If Ronald Reagan was Irish, why was his nickname “Dutch?”
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I bet he was a Presbyterian.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 22, 2022 03:53 PM (tiR3O)

352 A very modest instrument (the Ukrainian military) with NATO recon/intel/command advice has given the (very small, in transition - no, not that kind, and in any case flexible-defense oriented) Russian military more than it can handle. There's not the slightest prospect of Russia taking on NATO.

Without even talking about the basic fact that such a thing has nothing to do with their objectives.
Posted by: rhomboid at September 22, 2022 03:40 PM (OTzUX)


Except the Ukrainians are fighting Russia using the NATO Weapons Stockpiles. The First 30-90 days was a lot of old Warsaw Pact and obsolete NATO Crap in the warehouses, then it was Western European first line spares and ammo. Now it is our new production ammo and weapons taken from active duty units. Example? The Carl Gustav Recoilless Rifles and Ammo from active duty US ARMY SF Units.

We go to war with Russia? We are out of ammo in weeks. Won't matter though. The war will be ended three days after we nuke each other and kill half the Northern Hemisphere.

Posted by: rd at September 22, 2022 03:53 PM (Z32m1)

353 his background before the White House, during, and after. I have a feeling they mentioned where the nickname came from -- but now I can't recall it.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I believe it came from his college football days.

Posted by: Infidel at September 22, 2022 03:54 PM (6/K6X)

354 This is what happens when mental institutions are shut down.

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No, this is what happens when democrats see crazy as an important voting block

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 22, 2022 03:54 PM (h1jJh)

355 Putin is a lot smarter than any western leader.

Certainly smarter than anyone pulling Joe's strings.

Posted by: Seems Legit at September 22, 2022 03:54 PM (Lv84X)

356 "It's incredible that such a common-sense position has to be forced on to the schools through a decree."
---------

It's also incredible that that it even new worthy, much less controversial.

Posted by: Javems at September 22, 2022 05:19 PM (AmoqO)

357 I just got blocked from Twitter from using "mental illness" and "transitioning" in the same tweet,( in the context of advocating and preserving real choice for adults)

I also got locked out of my local city Reddit for saying that Covid could be caught and even spread by vaccinated people, and that people retained substantial immunity after recovering from a Covid infection.

It's illegal to participate is an honest conversation anymore.

Posted by: Sarahw at September 22, 2022 05:25 PM (g1vnC)

358 These teachers and school boards have what MEDICAL qualifications exactly? Oh, and parents choose their child's doctor not the communist state!!! I can't wait for the first Billion $ "you sterilized and mutilated me" lawsuit to bankrupt a school district and I hope they pursue the teacher too.

Posted by: SmileyGG at September 22, 2022 05:37 PM (77cT/)

359 You know, at some point in the past (say, 30-40 years ago) the school nurse couldn't give your kid an aspirin without a permission slip from Mom. It was almost stupid in its way, with no grey areas.

Now, it has totally reversed. A parent can't give their child proper medications without the approval and involvement of the school nurse.

I think that has reversed in other areas, as well. And that's not a good thing.

Posted by: GWB at September 22, 2022 05:59 PM (BJd6U)

360 It's illegal to participate is an honest conversation anymore.

Posted by: Sarahw at September 22, 2022 05:25 PM (g1vnC)

You need to sue them for defamation. They are stating (by blocking you) that you are ignorant and uninformed. SUE THEM over it.

Posted by: GWB at September 22, 2022 06:01 PM (BJd6U)

361 Mircles in Virginia first the booted out the Democrats now their going to tell the NEA run school none of this Gender Switching stuff

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