Confirmed: Feminist She-Hulk Is Another Get Woke, Go Broke Ratings Disaster

CosmicBookNews reports it's the first Marvel show to fail to make the Nielsen top ten.

Much like Ms. Marvel, the She-Hulk ratings are also in the gutter where it's actually worse as She-Hulk is the first Marvel show on Disney Plus not to make any of Nielsen's Top 10 lists.

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The first episode of Ms. Marvel made Nielsen's Top 10 "Orignal" list but the ratings quickly dropped as Ms. Marvel's episode 2 failed to make the Nielsen Top 10 "Original" list, the first time ever for a Marvel show, and now She-Hulk shares the same company.

As Ethan Van Sciver used to say: "Orignal? Oh, original. Garbage-tier media."

Rings of Power, meanwhile, has She-Hulk level ratings. And that's not a win for a billion dollar budget show.

By the way, I'm not just saying "billion dollar budget" as an exaggeration. Amazon has committed to spending at least a billion dollars on the show over five seasons. Just the rights to the material -- which is just some of the appendices in the back of Return of the King -- cost $250 million.

Rings of Power is compared to Marvel's She-Hulk series on Disney Plus and not in a good way.

According to Samba TV, as many households watched the new Lord of the Rings series on Amazon Prime Video as did watch She-Hulk on Disney Plus.

Samba TV, which claims to have 46 million addressable TV devices to measure data, reports that 1.8 million households watched the Rings of Power premiere in the first four days of release, which is the same as the She-Hulk premiere.

Samba doesn't track nearly all households -- only 46 million -- but, as most of these companies refuse to report their ratings, it's the best guide we have for many of them. Consider it a broad sampling of all households, which we can use as a proxy for all households. Hey, actual Nielson ratings only sample a few thousand households, too.

We know from Samba that Rings of Power is on the same level as She-Hulk, which we now know, courtesy of Nielson, failed to break into the top ten during its premiere weeks.

Meanwhile: David French is practically vibrating at all this Peak TV!!!

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He likes it because they're pushing a Current Year moral about racism.

Specifically, anti-Elf racism.


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Once Elrond was portrayed as a speech writer for Gilgalad it became clear, Amazon's brilliant concept for Rings of Power was Middle Earth meets West Wing.

I get a real Creepy Youth Pastor vibe from David French. A vibe that says, "I'm super-into all these childish things just to have an excuse to chat up the kinder."

As Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled might say, David French is gayer than cum on a handlebar mustache.

Posted by: Ace at 05:03 PM




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1 HOORAY

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2022 05:03 PM (ppBhU)

2 First!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:03 PM (llXky)

3 First-ish.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:03 PM (llXky)

4 Yay! A happy thread!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 21, 2022 05:04 PM (p/nbH)

5 I wouldn't like to see an angry She-Hulk.

Posted by: Bill Bixby at September 21, 2022 05:05 PM (WmGrA)

6 The writing is just terrible for Rings of Power. It's *boring* enough that even the critics that were hyping it are really starting to check out and pan the episodes...But wait until Episode 5!

One of the main problems with all of these woke shows is that they are not re-watchable. I can watch shows like Person of Interest or Fringe multiple times because they are interesting and engaging, even though I know the story.

I just don't care with the modern shows.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:05 PM (YIVH2)

7 If you subtracted the Hate watchers both these shows might have negative ratings

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:06 PM (eoQWY)

8 He's watching it because he thinks dwarves are sexy.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 05:06 PM (UuD2k)

9 Seriously I was getting so effing depressed

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 21, 2022 05:06 PM (p/nbH)

10 It seems to me that its... at best unethical for a company not to report its ratings and popularity of its product for investors to know and understand.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:06 PM (Ivdso)

11 Casting discount Doogie Howser as Elrond was a mistake.

Posted by: Just the Punchline at September 21, 2022 05:07 PM (yQpMk)

12 Cracks me up that they are calling that a MAGA rally... clearly they've never been to one, or seen one.

Never heard of a SINGLE racist chant at a MAGA rally.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:07 PM (oHd/0)

13 Green >> Brown

https://tinyurl.com/2p9uj4ft

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 21, 2022 05:07 PM (ZCool)

14 Now I'm dreaming about 50' long sandwiches

Posted by: Uncledave at September 21, 2022 05:07 PM (GxGxA)

15 If anyone from Amazon is reading, what turned me off was your insistence that hairy, smelly, violent, selfish, anti-social elves should naturally be portrayed by obese black women.

That's offensive as heck. Imagine casting Planet of the Apes that way.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:07 PM (Wndnv)

16 On the other hand, House of the Dragon is not terrible.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:07 PM (yQpMk)

17 I get a real Creepy Youth Pastor vibe from David French. A vibe that says, "I'm super-into all these childish things just to have an excuse to chat up the kinder."
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I will remind folks that David French - who is so morally upright that he didn't even permit his wife to talk to other men while he was doing paperwork in the Green Zone - was a huuuge fan of the porn-laden Game of Thrones.

I always found it odd that Pastor David kept going on and on about a show that graphically depicts castration and violent rape.

Weird how he's all "What would Jesus say about that?" unless he's watching footage of oral sex.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:08 PM (llXky)

18 Where exactly did she hulk come from? Is that explained in the movie? We know where the original hulk came from.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 21, 2022 05:08 PM (bVYXr)

19 Seriously, get Peter MacNiocol, Lucy Liu and the cast from Alley McBeal and just put them into the show and slowly phase She-Hulk out and the show would probably get better ratings.

I would even work in the crappy dancing baby CG into the show.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 05:08 PM (Xm7Q9)

20 If anyone from Amazon is reading, what turned me off was your insistence that hairy, smelly, violent, selfish, anti-social elves should naturally be portrayed by obese black women.

That's offensive as heck. Imagine casting Planet of the Apes that way.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:07 PM (Wndnv)
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Don't you mean Dwarves?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:08 PM (YIVH2)

21 >>>4 Yay! A happy thread!

i thought it was needed

but there is so much dark news and not enough happy news posts

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:08 PM (B3oWe)

22 She-Woke bombed? I shannot believe it.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 05:09 PM (yHsuS)

23 "Lady, i don't even like you when you're NOT angry. "

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 05:09 PM (6FeV1)

24 everything is fan baiting now to explain away the fact that everything "new" is garbage, and re-hashed, remade, woke garbage at that

Posted by: brak at September 21, 2022 05:09 PM (j5Tg0)

25 Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:05 PM (YIVH2)

Favorite Meme I've seen? Galadriel was Married to Celeborn, and had a daughter by this point in the Silmarillion...

But in the show, she never sees Hubby, or Kid, and even starts to LEAVE permanently.... thus...

Worst Mother Evah!

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:09 PM (oHd/0)

26 French will watch anything to distract from the epic Bilbowing his wife is getting from the neighbor kid.

Posted by: Dr Spank at September 21, 2022 05:09 PM (3w5qQ)

27 I've watch all the ROP episodes so far and other than some decent combat scenes, it is pretty boring and a lot doesn't make sence.

For instance, in the last one they were all against helping the elves and were about to deport Galadriel off their island, but then the leaves fell off of a tree so they changed their mind.

Seriously.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 05:09 PM (UuD2k)

28 House of the Dragon is not terrible.

long discussions about who becomes king sandwiched between occasional violence isn't exactly riveting TV though. HBO is a lot better at writing and producing TV shows than Disney but its pretty bland stuff anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:09 PM (Ivdso)

29 Don't you mean Dwarves?

*

Dwarves, wookies, whatever.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (Wndnv)

30 but there is so much dark news and not enough happy news posts
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:08 PM (B3oWe)
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The epic failure of Rings of Power fills me with a dark glee...

But just imagine what might have been with competent writing, acting, and showrunning...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (YIVH2)

31 If this is a tv thread I'm going to reiterate my rec for Boundless (Sin Limites) on amazon.
Fun swashbuckling show about Magellan's voyage.
Someone pointed out that it's been 500 years

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (p/nbH)

32 But in the show, she never sees Hubby, or Kid, and even starts to LEAVE permanently.... thus...

Worst Mother Evah!
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:09 PM (oHd/0)

Worse yet, she COMES BACK.

yes, she's that annoying a character.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (eoQWY)

33 and I am still hanging with season three of See. It is such a great story idea even if it is weak on plotting and character.

I will say that Jason Momoa is really chewing the scenery. He is a big character.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (yQpMk)

34 Just as Kevin Williamson should always be identified as a known cuckold, henceforth David French should be identified as a "porn fan."

And I agree with Ace. There has long been something deeply wrong about him and his family setup.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (llXky)

35 David French understands Tolkien slightly less well than he understands an actual woman.

He's "all-in" because this is how he gets enough of a paycheck to keep his wife from tossing his ass out of the house.

This series would have to improve a thousand percent just to rise to the level of hot garbage.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (wb1YC)

36 French will watch anything to distract from the epic Bilbowing his wife is getting from the neighbor kid.
Posted by: Dr Spank at September 21, 2022 05:09 PM (3w5qQ)

Distract?

That creep has a peephole in his closet door.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (6FeV1)

37 20 If anyone from Amazon is reading, what turned me off was your insistence that hairy, smelly, violent, selfish, anti-social elves should naturally be portrayed by obese black women.

That's offensive as heck. Imagine casting Planet of the Apes that way.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:07 PM (Wndnv)
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Don't you mean Dwarves?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:08 PM (YIVH2)

Forget it, he's on a roll... and making a Hobbit of it...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (oHd/0)

38 She-Hulk. OK.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2022 05:11 PM (W/9Bb)

39 >>>18 Where exactly did she hulk come from? Is that explained in the movie? We know where the original hulk came from.


in the comics, she was shot by the mob and her cousin, bruce banner, had to give her an emergency blood transfusion to save her life. His blood made her a hulk.

In the SHOW, it's a rule, a written rule, that men can NEVER save women nor mentor women nor help women, so he did not give her a blood transfusion. Instead, they got into a car accident and his blood accidently splattered into her open wound.

How did he bleed? He is the hulk, after all. Well he had on a "Hulk Dampener Device," which has never ever existed before. Because he did not hulk out, she had to save HIM from the car wreck.

Many pointed out that if a few drops of blood getting into a wound turns you into a hulk, then half of the marvel universe should be hulks, because the hulk bleeds a fair amount.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:11 PM (B3oWe)

40 If anyone from Amazon is reading, what turned me off was your insistence that hairy, smelly, violent, selfish, anti-social elves should naturally be portrayed by obese black women.

That's offensive as heck. Imagine casting Planet of the Apes that way.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are

I think you meant dwarves, not elves?

Posted by: Joe Mama at September 21, 2022 05:11 PM (WmGrA)

41 I will remind folks that David French - who is so morally upright that he didn't even permit his wife to talk to other men while he was doing paperwork in the Green Zone - was a huuuge fan of the porn-laden Game of Thrones.


Yeah I don't quite understand that disconnect either, given his otherwise pharisaical approach to popular media.

He's more interested in being on Team Cool rooting for The Current Thing than anything else, its pretty obvious. I mean, he'll try to frame it in some sort of sophistry about Jesus but... yeah.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:12 PM (Ivdso)

42 Front Hole Hulk.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 21, 2022 05:12 PM (W/9Bb)

43 28 House of the Dragon is not terrible.

long discussions about who becomes king sandwiched between occasional violence isn't exactly riveting TV though. HBO is a lot better at writing and producing TV shows than Disney but its pretty bland stuff anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:09 PM (Ivdso)

Yeah, hey, what's a little Child Bride action between friends... right?

Posted by: Mohamed at September 21, 2022 05:12 PM (oHd/0)

44 September 21, 2022 05:05 PM (YIVH2)

Favorite Meme I've seen? Galadriel was Married to Celeborn, and had a daughter by this point in the Silmarillion...

But in the show, she never sees Hubby, or Kid, and even starts to LEAVE permanently.... thus...

Worst Mother Evah!
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:09 PM (oHd/


I like in the last episode that her dress looks like the chest binders the sell to Trans peepo to hid their boots. Look galadrigal wanna be a guyladrial. Renee yeah!

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 21, 2022 05:12 PM (0Qrr3)

45 Well, if folks are abandoning the supers shows, don't turn to Morbius.

I did watch it last Saturday...and it was as bad (or even worse) than advertised. After a mediocre start, the director's 3rd grade wrote the last hour of the plot as his one page story and it was filmed EXACTLY the way he wrote it...

Posted by: Nova local at September 21, 2022 05:12 PM (exHjb)

46 But just imagine what might have been with competent writing, acting, and showrunning...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (YIVH2)

Tolkien will still exist after the coming unpleasantness. I doubt the Hollywood cabal will.

Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 05:12 PM (67hQn)

47 The woke could cause a film about an orgy of Orion slave girls to fail.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at September 21, 2022 05:12 PM (I/9ck)

48 I have been retired from the military for 16 years and have no eagerness to go back in........

Uncle Joe we fought the Cold War and won, so don't F**K IT UP. I do not feel warm to pulling Nuke Alert again on a B-52 at Minot AFB in February. !!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 21, 2022 05:12 PM (eRS2I)

49 20 If anyone from Amazon is reading, what turned me off was your insistence that hairy, smelly, violent, selfish, anti-social elves should naturally be portrayed by obese black women.

That's offensive as heck. Imagine casting Planet of the Apes that way.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:07 PM (Wndnv)
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personally, I think it's hilarious that the most SJW actor is portraying a character that has a very traditional outlook of wife, homemaker, and mother...And is doing a very credible job of it...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:12 PM (YIVH2)

50 The entire concept of a She-Hulk is just fucking stupid.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at September 21, 2022 05:12 PM (RG7Wy)

51 Frig this tiny key board and auto correct

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 21, 2022 05:13 PM (0Qrr3)

52 Tell me more about these rings of power. Stainless steel? Leather? Stretchy?

Posted by: Jack Murphy at September 21, 2022 05:13 PM (4I/2K)

53 The epic failure of Rings of Power fills me with a dark glee...

But just imagine what might have been with competent writing, acting, and showrunning...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (YIVH2)

There's a YT channel, just one guy, who has blocked out how you could replot the second age into a consistent themed 5 season show. He's blocked out up to the third season and it seems reasonable for a plot line spanning 3500 years.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:13 PM (eoQWY)

54 >>>How did he bleed? He is the hulk, after all.

what I mean is, how would a Hulk bleed from a mere car accident? The Hulk would laugh such a thing off, and if banner got into a wreck, he'd turn into the hulk mid-accident and wouldn't bleed.

so yeah, they had to invent this magic No-Hulking-Device to explain why he didn't turn into the hulk during the accident, and thus needed to be saved by The Strong Empowered Woman, Who Don't Need No Man. Plot Twist: The Princess Saves Herself, and the Knight!!!! Bet you didn't expect that!!!

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:13 PM (B3oWe)

55 I will say that Jason Momoa is really chewing the scenery. He is a big character.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:10 PM (yQpMk)


He's nice to look at.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 21, 2022 05:13 PM (DRSnL)

56 A feminist hero AND an attorney? Don’t see why she was so unpopular.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 21, 2022 05:13 PM (u73oe)

57 Well he had on a "Hulk Dampener Device," which has never ever existed before.

Yeah that existing only because Hulk is expensive CGI and they needed to keep the budget down. And because he had to bleed to reboot her origin story which was, frankly, kind of dumb to begin with but at least was interesting and related to her being a lawyer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:14 PM (Ivdso)

58 When did She-Hulk stop being a joke? When I was a kid many years ago, She-Hulk was a punchline for when the "Idea Men" had run out of ideas. "OK, I got nothin'. How about we just take Hulk and make him a woman? No one else has anything? OK, let's go with it."
Now suddenly, we're treating She-Hulk like a cornerstone of Marvel? Bizarre.

Posted by: Wally at September 21, 2022 05:14 PM (FJYfm)

59 Resident Alien on SyFy is pretty good.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 21, 2022 05:14 PM (DRSnL)

60 I remember that clip from RoP. I scanned the audience for the guy speaking, and of course it was all white men. It's the only time that's happened so far in the entire series.

Something bad has happened and characters are being asshoe? White men only, please.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 05:14 PM (ayzS/)

61 50 The entire concept of a She-Hulk is just fucking stupid.

So when she Hill has a big O and her muscles involuntarily contract does it crush the peepee?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 21, 2022 05:14 PM (0Qrr3)

62 in the comics, she was shot by the mob and her cousin, bruce banner, had to give her an emergency blood transfusion to save her life. His blood made her a hulk.

In the SHOW, it's a rule, a written rule, that men can NEVER save women nor mentor women nor help women, so he did not give her a blood transfusion. Instead, they got into a car accident and his blood accidently splattered into her open wound.

How did he bleed? He is the hulk, after all. Well he had on a "Hulk Dampener Device," which has never ever existed before. Because he did not hulk out, she had to save HIM from the car wreck.

Many pointed out that if a few drops of blood getting into a wound turns you into a hulk, then half of the marvel universe should be hulks, because the hulk bleeds a fair amount.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:11 PM


That seems like a tremendous reach to create an uber woke feminine non binary woman kind of monster hero to me. I guess I have not kept up on my comic book stuff since the 60s, which is probably a good thing.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 21, 2022 05:14 PM (bVYXr)

63 The entire concept of a She-Hulk is just fucking stupid.
Posted by: Colonel Travis at September 21, 2022 05:12 PM (RG7Wy)



Isn't she pretty randy in the comics? Death by Snu-Snu.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:14 PM (yQpMk)

64 >>>As Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled might say, David French is gayer than cum on a handlebar mustache.

lol

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 05:14 PM (yHsuS)

65 I got willowed drat those green women.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:14 PM (VdGjU)

66 I haven’t seen the show, only snippets on things like Critical Drinker, but it appears that She-Hulk became powered by being in a car accident with Bruce (her cousin) and he bled on her. Gamma radiation poisoning is apparently like AIDS in the Marvel movies.

In the comic, as I recall, Banner had to do some mad scientist experimentation on her to save her life, and this involved a more controlled transfusion.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 21, 2022 05:15 PM (U+Oxn)

67 That David French quote is embarrassing. Isn't it weird they all pretend to like the same shit?

Posted by: Seems Legit at September 21, 2022 05:15 PM (Lv84X)

68 I loved it.
It was much better than Cats.
I'm going to see it again and again.

Posted by: David French of the French Davidians at September 21, 2022 05:15 PM (TNyrE)

69 Hulk + PMS = bad juju

Posted by: Roy at September 21, 2022 05:15 PM (Ti+Tv)

70 >>>41 I will remind folks that David French - who is so morally upright that he didn't even permit his wife to talk to other men while he was doing paperwork in the Green Zone - was a huuuge fan of the porn-laden Game of Thrones.


i don't think that's a huge zinger against HIM except this asshole is always saying "Christians can't support Trump because Trump once had Playboy playmates stay at the Trump Plaza, and did a cameo for a video special they were doing! FALSE CHRISTIANS! YE HYPOCRITES!"

so I guess it is a good zinger -- by French's own standards.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:15 PM (B3oWe)

71 Can She-Hulk open jars?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 05:15 PM (UuD2k)

72 >>>67 That David French quote is embarrassing. Isn't it weird they all pretend to like the same shit?


yes, but: NPCs.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:16 PM (B3oWe)

73 There's a YT channel, just one guy, who has blocked out how you could replot the second age into a consistent themed 5 season show. He's blocked out up to the third season and it seems reasonable for a plot line spanning 3500 years.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:13 PM (eoQWY)
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It ain't rocket science. A competent writer could easily take the material in the Appendices and craft a five-season story arc that takes place around key moments in the Second Age. The epic finale, of course, would be the battle against Sauron with the Last Alliance of Men and Elves.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:16 PM (YIVH2)

74 69 Hulk + PMS = bad juju
Posted by: Roy at September 21, 2022 05:15 PM (Ti+

Well she got mansplained once so she knows how to nit get pissy or something

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at September 21, 2022 05:16 PM (0Qrr3)

75 I call all these shows “shit” — as in Rings of Shit, Wheel of Shit, House of Shit, Game of Shit, etc. They are all shit.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 21, 2022 05:16 PM (sDm4b)

76 I'll readily admit my mistakes and acknowledge that even when I'm trying to discuss LOTR and an offensive casting for a dwarf role my mind is still usually wandering to thoughts of that brunette elf lady, hence the typo.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (Wndnv)

77 Can She-Hulk open jars?

Yes, but when she tries to parallel park, all hell breaks loose.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (ayzS/)

78 If they had a scene where She-Hulk tries to parallel park, I'd have gone to see it.

Posted by: Roy at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (Ti+Tv)

79 There is a pretty well-substantiated rumor going around that at least Marvel if not other shows are using what they call "Story Boarding". This is a technique in which you film multiple versions of each scene, with different outcomes, slightly changed dialog etc.

So, say, She Hulk kills the guys "cat calling" her, or Bruce dies in the car wreck, etc. So they have it all filmed and in raw footage to use or not use as they see fit. Then they stitch together what they decide to use and think will be cool in editing. Which generally makes the product feel disjointed, sometimes illogical and lacking continuity, and poorly designed.

Why do this? Well it lets you create what you want on the fly, and it makes leaking very difficult since what you saw on set might not have anything to do with what ends up on screen. And it gives you lots of "alternate reality" variants pre-filmed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (Ivdso)

80 I think you can scratch "practically". I hear French "cheats at chess" while watching each new episode.

Posted by: Fritz (not Fritz) at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (IIOyJ)

81 I hope She-Hulk or Rings of Power don't get cancelled.

The reviews panning them on Youtube from Critical Drinker to Nerdrotic are just too entertaining for me to give up.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Cancelled Sexy Russian Women at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (VTu1l)

82 Dwarves, wookies, whatever.

Remind me of Chewbacca crying:

https://tinyurl.com/42hsj473

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (ppBhU)

83 Isn't she pretty randy in the comics? Death by Snu-Snu.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:14 PM (yQpMk)
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If the reviewers I've watched so far are to be believed, she outright rapes a guy in the new series...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (YIVH2)

84 >>>61 50 The entire concept of a She-Hulk is just ... stupid.

in fairness, she was created just to prevent someone else from creating a female hulk character. Another company could have just created a She-Hulk or Lady Hulk character. The character was created solely to prevent any other company from doing it.

it did wind up having some popularity, but that wasn't the point of it.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (B3oWe)

85 Everyone is also trying to sell this Woman King movie as a box office success because it win this weekend.

It made $20 million, with a budget of $50 million, which is usually doubled to factor in advertising.

It'll go right to Disney+ and had little international appeal.

So in the end this massive successful movie, will lose probably $75 million.

I mean at that lots they wouldn't have done that much worse if they never even released it. Hell they probably would have done better since they wouldn't have blown $50 million on advertising and distribution.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 21, 2022 05:18 PM (9UxnR)

86 i don't think that's a huge zinger against HIM except this asshole is always saying "Christians can't support Trump because Trump once had Playboy playmates stay at the Trump Plaza, and did a cameo for a video special they were doing! FALSE CHRISTIANS! YE HYPOCRITES!"

so I guess it is a good zinger -- by French's own standards.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:15 PM (B3oWe)

Jesus hung out with a Hooker.. don't think he'd care about hanging with Playboy Bunnies.

Posted by: Mohamed at September 21, 2022 05:18 PM (oHd/0)

87
"All in, is a poker term meaning 'all of your chips'.

When French says it, he means potato chips. Hes invested.

Posted by: Speller at September 21, 2022 05:18 PM (pSotA)

88
Looking back, I know I've fucked up a few things in my life, nothing real bad, but sometimes stupid.

But everything? Joe Biden disease runs up and down the country, entertainment, opinion writing (Ace excluded), law, finance, bleh.

Had lunch with an old buddy that sells steel to tier 2 car company suppliers, says that it's baked in that business is over because of electric mandates. Bye, Michigan.

Posted by: Auspex at September 21, 2022 05:18 PM (j4U/Z)

89 The epic finale, of course, would be the battle against Sauron with the Last Alliance of Men and Elves.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:16 PM (YIVH2)



And end with Isildur holding the One Ring in the scene from the Movie. *fade to black*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:18 PM (yQpMk)

90 Posted by: Mohamed at September 21, 2022 05:18 PM (oHd/0)

Wow... not sure if that sock mistake is funny... or sad...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:18 PM (oHd/0)

91 Is it possible, could I be that there's something wrong with David French.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:19 PM (VdGjU)

92 "Can She-Hulk open jars?"

Can she parallel park?

Posted by: Bosk at September 21, 2022 05:19 PM (v4L7Y)

93 "Cecil" has some Brrrrutal reviews of She-Hulk. He's barely even funny. He just hates it. He emotionally, physically hates the show.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:19 PM (B3oWe)

94 They should have used the Beast of Chappaqua for a cameo. Had her devour some NPC.

Posted by: torabora at September 21, 2022 05:19 PM (Y274z)

95 She Hulk was created as a character in 1980 so she's not exactly a recent creation. The formerly big two do this all the time, partly because its a way of protecting copyright (so DC can't create a She Hulk and Marvel cannot create a Supergirl, etc etc).

She was hilarious and interesting when Byrne did the comic, although it was largely cheesecake.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:19 PM (Ivdso)

96 It makes sense that French would like Rings of Power, because it's essentially a children's series, so he can invite the local boy scout troop over to watch the show and then have bath time.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 21, 2022 05:20 PM (9UxnR)

97 If the reviewers I've watched so far are to be believed, she outright rapes a guy in the new series...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (YIVH2)



He was scared stiff, as it were.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:20 PM (yQpMk)

98 90 Posted by: Mohamed at September 21, 2022 05:18 PM (oHd/0)

Wow... not sure if that sock mistake is funny... or sad...
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:18 PM (oHd/0)

Muslims probably know more about Jesus than the average American these days.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 21, 2022 05:20 PM (UuD2k)

99 Yeah Amazon, Disney and other streamers are throwing out free trial periods to draw in suckers and hope they forget to cancel for a couple months afterward.

This is American industry's ingenuity and know-how in the 21st century.

Posted by: Regular joe at September 21, 2022 05:20 PM (nnp+f)

100 Where exactly did she hulk come from? Is that explained in the movie? We know where the original hulk came from.

Sharing needles with her uncle, Bruce Banner.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at September 21, 2022 05:20 PM (Vu7A1)

101 >>>Is it possible, could I be that there's something wrong with David French.

interesting theory.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:20 PM (B3oWe)

102 The character was created solely to prevent any other company from doing it.

it did wind up having some popularity, but that wasn't the point of it.
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (B3oWe)

Publishing to protect intellectual property rights should require at least that the property be intellectual.

Posted by: Roy at September 21, 2022 05:20 PM (Ti+Tv)

103 And end with Isildur holding the One Ring in the scene from the Movie. *fade to black*
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:18 PM (yQpMk)
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Exactly! It would be a seamless transition to the Jackson films! They may still do that, assuming they even get to the fifth season. But no one will enjoy the journey...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:20 PM (YIVH2)

104 Doesn't help that She-Hulk looks a lot like a green painted Gretchen Whitmer.

Posted by: Boswell at September 21, 2022 05:20 PM (+Cgut)

105 in fairness, she was created just to prevent someone else from creating a female hulk character.

ACE Johnson is right.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:21 PM (Ivdso)

106 I know!!!

We'll do a crossover Ring of Power / She Hulk Episode...

A little space time warp... and we can have She Hulk fighting against trolls!

Oh... wait... that'd be confusing...

Posted by: Disney Screen Writer at September 21, 2022 05:21 PM (oHd/0)

107 "Instead, they got into a car accident and his blood accidently splattered into her open wound."

It would make more sense if she swallowed some Hulk juice, iykwim.

Posted by: fd at September 21, 2022 05:21 PM (sn5EN)

108 Well he had on a "Hulk Dampener Device," which has never ever existed before.


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Wait, the Hulk got married?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:21 PM (Wndnv)

109 David French wears a raincoat to work every day, and never takes it off. Underneath, he only wears his jockstrap, as originally autographed by Cardinal Law (a prominent Christian thinker and child predator).

That's the rumor I heard anyway. I myself don't believe it. I mean, how would French, a proddie, ever get Cardinal Law's signature? Doesn't make sense!

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg Bites The Big One at September 21, 2022 05:21 PM (PUXju)

110 Hulk + PMS = bad juju

Posted by: Roy at September 21, 2022 05:15 PM (Ti+Tv)

She-Sulk.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 05:21 PM (yHsuS)

111 "You won't like me when I'm angry."

Well yeah, duh, you're a chick. Nobody actually likes chicks, they just put up with 'em.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at September 21, 2022 05:21 PM (QYPq3)

112

Why do this? Well it lets you create what you want on the fly, and it makes leaking very difficult since what you saw on set might not have anything to do with what ends up on screen. And it gives you lots of "alternate reality" variants pre-filmed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (Ivdso)

So rather than have a writer reduce the possible results at a low cost, they spend zillions on actors , crews and sets that they have no intention of using all of? No wonder the cost was a billion dollars.

But even that doesn't explain ROP because to have alternate branches in a story something has to be happening...and it sure looks like nothing is happening.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:22 PM (eoQWY)

113 Can she parallel park?
Posted by: Bosk at September 21, 2022 05:19 PM (v4L7Y)

She'll force Thor to ask for directions, I guarantee it.

Posted by: Boswell at September 21, 2022 05:22 PM (+Cgut)

114 I never read the Hulk as a kid but liked the Jekyll / Hyde concept. Wasn't part of his torment that his wife had died?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:22 PM (Wndnv)

115 One of the main problems with all of these woke shows is that they are not re-watchable. I can watch shows like Person of Interest or Fringe multiple times because they are interesting and engaging, even though I know the story.

I just don't care with the modern shows.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:05 PM (YIVH2)

Read someone explaining the history of Numenor. They actually have a story they could do. It simply wouldn't be woke. Instead, they go with boredom, and SJW posturing. It is all stupid.

Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 21, 2022 05:22 PM (EpDzw)

116 We'll do a crossover Ring of Power / She Hulk Episode...

A little space time warp... and we can have She Hulk fighting against trolls!

Oh... wait... that'd be confusing...
Posted by: Disney Screen Writer at September 21, 2022 05:21 PM (oHd/0)
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Next we'll have the "Director's Cut" of Avengers: Endgame when She-Hulk shows up out of the blue to take down Thanos single-handedly...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:22 PM (YIVH2)

117 Won't get a penny from me

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 05:22 PM (k8B25)

118 Does She Hulk need a good cry from Tim to time

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (VdGjU)

119 All of these comic book movies seem to involve some device, be it rings, stones, crystals, or what have you. I think they've exhausted the category.

Perhaps they could do the home appliances of power.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (ayzS/)

120 HULK SPLASH!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (Wndnv)

121 >>>I never read the Hulk as a kid but liked the Jekyll / Hyde concept. Wasn't part of his torment that his wife had died?

in the tv show, yeah. I don't think that happened in the comic book. but I dunno, I never read the comic book.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (B3oWe)

122 And end with Isildur holding the One Ring in the scene from the Movie. *fade to black*
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:18 PM (yQpMk)
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Exactly! It would be a seamless transition to the Jackson films! They may still do that, assuming they even get to the fifth season. But no one will enjoy the journey...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:20 PM (YIVH2)

No way will current year let a man be involved in killing Sauron, even if you use it later to blame him for taking the ring away.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (eoQWY)

123 Well yeah, duh, you're a chick. Nobody actually likes chicks, they just put up with 'em.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at September 21, 2022 05:21 PM (QYPq3)
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Gonna have to ask Ex-ex this.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (sg1sy)

124 I have been watching She-Hulk and there have been some amusing parts, but it is mostly lame. The thing I can't get over is that the (white) guys she meets or dates are portrayed as the absolute worst people ever.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (h1jJh)

125 Generally "creepy youth pastors" are well, youthful-Fresh out of seminary , or 30's because the church think they can relate to the teens better. I was a youth pastor at about 23; I was not creepy. I think David French is probably just creepy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (vH/6k)

126 So rather than have a writer reduce the possible results at a low cost, they spend zillions on actors , crews and sets that they have no intention of using all of? No wonder the cost was a billion dollars.

But even that doesn't explain ROP because to have alternate branches in a story something has to be happening...and it sure looks like nothing is happening.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:22 PM (eoQWY)
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Weirdly, it can work with a comic book series because of the crazy continuity and canon involved.

It doesn't work at all with an epic fantasy with a very well-established timeline and canon.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (YIVH2)

127 Like throwing a hotdog down a hallway, IYKWIM.

Posted by: She-Hulks Rape Victim at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (yQpMk)

128 I thought Steve Gerber’s limited run on She-Hulk was very funny. He seemed to realize that the idea was even sillier than most comics and so out and out turned her into a sidekick for Howard the Duck. Brought back some of the silliest villains in Marvel’s history and an offshoot of the Watchers called the Critics, whose ethics were a little looser.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 21, 2022 05:24 PM (U+Oxn)

129 84
in fairness, she was created just to prevent someone else from creating a female hulk character. Another company could have just created a She-Hulk or Lady Hulk character. The character was created solely to prevent any other company from doing it.

it did wind up having some popularity, but that wasn't the point of it.
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (B3oWe)
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Aha. OK, was never aware of that. Thank you.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at September 21, 2022 05:24 PM (RG7Wy)

130 When She Hulk rides cowgirl and grinds on you, your pelvis is turned to crumbly bits.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2022 05:24 PM (4I/2K)

131 Maybe if they did a "No Pomegranates" remix featuring She Hulk they'd get better ratings.

Posted by: She Hobbit at September 21, 2022 05:24 PM (ftFVW)

132 Does She Hulk need a good cry from Tim to time

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (VdGjU)

She-Hulk is fine!

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 05:24 PM (yHsuS)

133 Well maybe these crappy medieval fantasy shows will make it so people don't feel obliged to bitch about Game of Thrones anymore, which wasn't that bad.

Posted by: espinostifer at September 21, 2022 05:25 PM (ZKXFn)

134 Az from HeelVsBabyface channel did a follow-up on the supposed Tolkien "superfan" social media idiots that Amazon trotted out in February to shill for the show. Yeah, so far none of them have made any content talking about Rangs of Powah on their channels.

Yup, as real as Reverend French's virility.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at September 21, 2022 05:25 PM (PWGZ0)

135 If you have a Hulk, then She-Hulk then will come Trannie-Hulk

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 05:25 PM (k8B25)

136 If you'd like to know how things are going with this Rangz of Power series, understand that in the last episode, Isildur got himself shit canned from what is apparently the Sailing Academy in Numenor 🙄.

Why did he do that? Who the f*** knows because the writers sure don't. And for some reason the guy that fired him decided to fire the two guys standing next to him as well. One of them was a black guy named Valandil.

If that name doesn't ring a bell, consult the Silmarillion where you'll find that Valandil was Isildur's youngest son who eventually became king of Minas Arnor in Middle Earth.

So as you can see, the people handling this show are just really doing great.

And by great, I mean they should probably be living under an overpass giving substandard hand jobs.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 21, 2022 05:25 PM (wb1YC)

137
Well, I mean it's shit. Of course it's shit. All of our popular culture is. Welcome to 2022.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2022 05:25 PM (oINRc)

138 >>>Az from HeelVsBabyface channel did a follow-up on the supposed Tolkien "superfan" social media idiots that Amazon trotted out in February to shill for the show. Yeah, so far none of them have made any content talking about Rangs of Powah on their channels.

lol

they should have gotten David French

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:25 PM (B3oWe)

139 so, the left does the thing where they take the lefts' skewering the current thing they hate about the right as an actual embodiment of that thing they hate?

Noted cuck Ryan Arey, who helpfully reads Disney press releases, for example noted Judge Dredd illustrated 80's concerns about crime.

no...you dumdums, it was a send up ...by you,for you...of our concern about democrat voters committing crime.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:25 PM (OuH7W)

140 the cool kids are calling it "Ranz of Power"

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (B3oWe)

141 That David French tweet must be made up. It fits our narrative too perfectly.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (TgBWG)

142 @53 There's a YT channel, just one guy, who has blocked out how you could replot the second age into a consistent themed 5 season show. He's blocked out up to the third season and it seems reasonable for a plot line spanning 3500 years.

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There's stuff all over the place. There's so much there. They could have focused in on one little thing that the appendices give details on, and turned it into a major production. The appendices are a "broad strokes" history, and that's the sort of thing that a scriptwriter ought to love, because it leaves just enough for a basic plot idea that you can claim makes it "official", and plenty of room to then stuff full of whatever the writer wants to put in.

But nope. We've apparently (from what I've heard) got Sauron kissing Shelob and turning her into a spider. Even the most basic loyalty to what Tolkien wrote was thrown out the window.

Of course, we also now know that undead can't exist. Otherwise Tolkien's revenant would have risen from his grave and burned Amazon HQ to the ground over this travesty of his life's work.

Posted by: junior at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (PTw5h)

143
Another company could have just created a She-Hulk or Lady Hulk character.

She-Thing 1996

dexterslab.fandom.com/wiki/She-Thing

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (63Dwl)

144 Does She Hulk need a good cry from Tim to time
Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (VdGjU)

She'll tell Thor he drinks too much beer on the weekends and doesn't get shit done, like dusting the windows, helping her vacuum the Avengers' hideout carpets and cleaning their gutters - guaranteed.

Posted by: Boswell at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (+Cgut)

145 Well maybe these crappy medieval fantasy shows will make it so people don't feel obliged to bitch about Game of Thrones anymore, which wasn't that bad.
Posted by: espinostifer at September 21, 2022 05:25 PM (ZKXFn)

Ah yes the strange new respect award like the Prequels got once the Sequels in Star Wars came out.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (eoQWY)

146 I always found it odd that Pastor David kept going on and on about a show that graphically depicts castration and violent rape.

Weird how he's all "What would Jesus say about that?" unless he's watching footage of oral sex.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:08 PM (llXky)

That is a bit odd. It is the reason I refuse to watch the show. If it is so brilliantly written, it doesn't need the graphic sex and violence.

Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (EpDzw)

147 Gonna have to ask Ex-ex this.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 05:23 PM (sg1sy)

Who knows what the answer could be.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (yHsuS)

148 I meant "Rangz of Power"

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (B3oWe)

149 in the tv show, yeah. I don't think that happened in the comic book. but I dunno, I never read the comic book.
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I was young-ish when the show was on but even then appreciated that they always ended it with him leaving wherever the last hour (30 minutes?) occurred.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (Wndnv)

150 I guess that what She-Hulk lost in sales Queen Warrior Woman/Slave Catcher made up in sales?.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (vH/6k)

151 Read someone explaining the history of Numenor. They actually have a story they could do. It simply wouldn't be woke. Instead, they go with boredom, and SJW posturing. It is all stupid.
Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 21, 2022 05:22 PM (EpDzw)
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The Fall of Numenor is an amazing story, paralleling the fall of humankind prior to Noah's Flood (humans grew corrupt and proud, causing them to be rejected from paradise, basically). Again, a competent writer can do wonders with this. You could even add a lot of sex and violence, but you'd have to portray these in a *negative* light, which Hollywood won't do.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (YIVH2)

152 " He likes it because they're pushing a Current Year moral about racism.

Specifically, anti-Elf racism."
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French is an Elf?

Posted by: Javems at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (AmoqO)

153 French is a fucking idiot, a simpified fucklessneener dickless wonderchild of the left sea, and the first clue is his last name.

For proof of it, I watched a writer's perspective of the Rings of Power, an eastern euro guy with a thick accent, explain the show fails because it lacks love. Love in its craft, in tolkien lore, in well, everything.

For one example he said the actor who played Aragorn felt his character was the type who sewed his own clothes as a survivalist thing, and he does this so subtly in the movies that it seems mundane, yet that subtle subext can tell you much about a character.

In comparison, Guyladriel is on a boat holding a rope like an idiot and looking exactly like someone who is just waiting their turn to speak their lines. Had this been a labor of love, the director, writer, someone ANYONE would have said, hey, instead of holding that rope like its the limp microdick of a simp, why not tie it into a nautical knot to demonstrate to viewers your skills at sea, that conveys something about the character in a meaningful way?

This is something self professed social commentators like Frenchgot should have picked up on.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Cancelled Sexy Russian Women at September 21, 2022 05:27 PM (VTu1l)

154 5 I wouldn't like to see an angry She-Hulk.

Posted by: Bill Bixby at September 21, 2022 05:05 PM (WmGrA)
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Particularly if it coincided with that time of the month.
And who makes pads/tampons that size? .... wait ... those would be small so fall out when raging?

Posted by: Ciampino at September 21, 2022 05:27 PM (qfLjt)

155 the cool kids are calling it "Ranz of Power"
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (B3oWe)



I'm sticking with the Rings of Prime.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:27 PM (yQpMk)

156 Afternoon, all. I don't have any of this streaming stuff, and apparently I am missing zilch.

In other news, the water has not reappeared in my apartment, and they are supposed to finish repairing my ceiling tomorrow. They will still need to dry out the carpet, of course. Getting Code Enforcement involved in this was a great suggestion from someone here; I'm sorry I don't recall which member of the esteemed Horde. It scared the apartment manager enough that *she came over herself* to see the conditions and to get the ceiling work started.

Stirling the big black kitten will be back tonight. Linda says the 2 kittens are dealing with each other pretty well; no blood, no hissing and growling. Maybe this will work out.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 05:27 PM (c6xtn)

157 "Cecil" has some Brrrrutal reviews of She-Hulk. He's barely even funny. He just hates it. He emotionally, physically hates the show.
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:19 PM (B3oWe)


I derived considerably more enjoyment from Mailer's epic takedown of Multiverse of Madness or E;R's Halo review than I ever will from the actual properties. And yet I don't even care to dignify the Bezos abortion with a response. Nor will I grant critics clicks for episode recaps. It's very, very expensive fanfic. Nothing more.

Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 05:27 PM (67hQn)

158 She Hulk is more angry at certain times of the month,

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 05:27 PM (1XoKP)

159 On the other hand, House of the Dragon is not terrible.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:07 PM (yQpMk)

Concur!

Posted by: runner at September 21, 2022 05:27 PM (T+IcW)

160 Even in the heyday of risque and non-woke, who actually thought She-Hulk would be good?

I was not a She-Hulk fan. I get it, but it is the green woman thing. Orion slave girl does nothing for me either. Slave Leia is hot, but the chain kills it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 05:27 PM (dNqv+)

161 Feminist She-Hulk Is Another Get Woke, Go Broke Ratings Disaster


Green chick better have three bewbs.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2022 05:27 PM (ndc+z)

162 Question: Could David French BE a bigger faggot? Is that even possible?

Posted by: tsj017 at September 21, 2022 05:28 PM (YcOm1)

163
Hulk: Honey, calm down.

She-Hulk: Oh my God, you’re just like your father!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 21, 2022 05:28 PM (u73oe)

164 Seriously, get Peter MacNiocol, Lucy Liu and the cast from Alley McBeal and just put them into the show and slowly phase She-Hulk out and the show would probably get better ratings.

I would even work in the crappy dancing baby CG into the show.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 05:08 PM (Xm7Q9)

Pa Pa Pa Pa Poughkeepsie

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 21, 2022 05:28 PM (OgrpQ)

165 That David French tweet must be made up. It fits our narrative too perfectly.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (TgBWG)

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I'm beginning to suspect that as well. Even for him, tit looks so contrived and phony.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at September 21, 2022 05:28 PM (TNyrE)

166 Who knows what the answer could be.
Posted by: Comrade flounder
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Considering that he remarried me, I'm kinda sure of the answer.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 05:28 PM (sg1sy)

167 >>> always found it odd that Pastor David kept going on and on about a show that graphically depicts castration and violent rape.


it wasn't just that -- it had a ton of nudity in it. Featuring some porn stars, actually. So if trump was "bad"...

And the nudity was prominent. It was something they called "sexposition." When you're doing exposition, you want to give the viewer something to look at. They decided to give the audience naked women to look at.

One of the main girls was really hot, too. "Roz."

and there was a lot of exposition in Game of Thrones....

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:28 PM (B3oWe)

168
I love how all of these self-serious sadsack righties who are super-duper highbrow intellectuals apparently spend about 80% of their copious free time watching mind-numbingly dull children's fare.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2022 05:28 PM (oINRc)

169 Of course, we also now know that undead can't exist. Otherwise Tolkien's revenant would have risen from his grave and burned Amazon HQ to the ground over this travesty of his life's work.
Posted by: junior at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (PTw5h)

Maybe he is currently walking the Paths of the Dead? ala Aragorn?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:28 PM (oHd/0)

170 Trump never portrays himself as a big time Christian, he simply told them, 'I won't let you down', and he didn't.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 21, 2022 05:28 PM (z/NLz)

171 We Had Rangz

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (Wndnv)

172 "I'm so all-in. More all-in every week."

That's what Mrs. French's bull says every week.

Posted by: Biergood at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (FQWHA)

173 >>>Another company could have just created a She-Hulk or Lady Hulk character. The character was created solely to prevent any other company from doing it.

Darla's role as Mitch's love interest on the Regular Show...

Posted by: Boswell at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (+Cgut)

174 Of course, we also now know that undead can't exist. Otherwise Tolkien's revenant would have risen from his grave and burned Amazon HQ to the ground over this travesty of his life's work.
Posted by: junior at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (PTw5h)

Oh I don't know. Tolkien likely was well aware that others sins don't stain his works, his works just point out the flaws in the copies. Like Elves versus the degraded Orc copies, it doesn't affect the elves.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (eoQWY)

175 Posted by: junior at September 21, 2022 05:26 PM (PTw5h)

My understanding is the Numnorians were jealous of the immortality of the elves. Meanwhile, they themselves were long-lived far beyond normal men. You have a story there of how the quest for more, when you already have it pretty good, can lead to destruction.

Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (EpDzw)

176 So She-Hulk just got the Green Weenie

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (OgrpQ)

177 in fairness, she was created just to prevent someone else from creating a female hulk character. Another company could have just created a She-Hulk or Lady Hulk character.

///

She-Hulk was maybe originally a copyright protection marker. Who knows how they could justify Hulk giving his powers to someone else.

But, they turned her into a soft-core playboy bunny for 12 year olds, right? She broke the 4th wall before deadpool, too.

So, at least it was a fun inventive concept. I don't think these halfwit amateur writers quite got to their hoped for "Superhero Ally McBeal"

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (OuH7W)

178 Considering that he remarried me, I'm kinda sure of the answer.

Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2022 05:28 PM (sg1sy)

Yep.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (yHsuS)

179 Hulk was never married in the comics, always a solo act that had a crush on Betty, the daughter of the general trying to kill him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (Ivdso)

180 Episode Four of Rings of Power was excellent. I'm so
all-in. More all-in every week.


Aren't you supposed to disclose sponsored posts?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (BI+67)

181 If that name doesn't ring a bell, consult the Silmarillion where you'll find that Valandil was Isildur's youngest son who eventually became king of Minas Arnor in Middle Earth.

So as you can see, the people handling this show are just really doing great.

And by great, I mean they should probably be living under an overpass giving substandard hand jobs.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 21, 2022 05:25 PM (wb1YC)
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Hey, now...Isildur's sister (who didn't exist in the source material) got accepted into the Architecture school! So YAY, GIRL POWER!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (YIVH2)

182 The uner woke inclusivity angle came fro. rR Martin himself, from what I understand . But it doesn't take away from the quality... much.

Posted by: runner at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (T+IcW)

183 So question to all the folks that actually read Silmarillion (all the way through....without dying,....or throwing the book in the trash!).

Which is worse? The orginal Chris Tolkien version from his father's notes or this dreck on Amazon Prime?

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (SEa82)

184 On the other hand, House of the Dragon is not terrible.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:07 PM (yQpMk)

Concur!
Posted by: runner


They have shows in development, for each of the houses from Game of Thrones. Kit Harington acknowledge that he will be back as Jon Snow.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (ndc+z)

185 Hulk say calm down.

Posted by: Incredible Hulk at September 21, 2022 05:30 PM (QYPq3)

186 "I'm so all-in. More all-in every week."

That's what Mrs. French's bull says every week.
Posted by: Biergood at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (FQWHA)

And this idiot gets paid for writing?

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:30 PM (eoQWY)

187 Before you vote, look at your last 401(k) and compare it to 2 years ago

Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 05:30 PM (ykvW6)

188
Hulk: What’s wrong?

She-Hulk: Nothing.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 21, 2022 05:30 PM (u73oe)

189 All of the previous comments, when taken individually or as a whole, constitute a far more literate and entertaining expenditure of time, than the best possible 10 minutes of trailers which might be edited out of the series in question, said series which I will never deign watch.

There's garbage tv, and then there is GARBAGE TEEVEE. This series surely, is the later.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 21, 2022 05:30 PM (e6UQI)

190 and speaking of which, since I hate bad writing from marvel/disney:

notice how every male superhero has their love interest. They pursue or try to obtain: Thor, Iron Man, Spider Man, Dr. Strange?

Kind of hard to do Superhero Ally McBeal when lunatic feminists have denuded all Marvel girls from liking boys. Ally McBeal lusted, baby. She-hulk is a fruit fly. at best.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:30 PM (OuH7W)

191 Hulk say calm down.

Posted by: Incredible Hulk at September 21, 2022 05:30 PM (QYPq3)

She-Hulk says, it's not about the nail.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 05:30 PM (yHsuS)

192 FknJon Snow. Loser.

Posted by: runner at September 21, 2022 05:30 PM (T+IcW)

193 I didnt read the She-Hulk comics, but I liked her in the cartoons. She had a witty, bright and intelligent personality that put her in stark contrast to mindless smashy Hulk. She was a happy warrior.

Which is what made her problematic, a happy she-hulk would have smiled a lot, and that would have been serving the patriarchy.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Cancelled Sexy Russian Women at September 21, 2022 05:31 PM (VTu1l)

194 David French is gayer than nine guys blowing ten guys.

Posted by: ballistic - They want you dead or in camps. Prepare accordingly. at September 21, 2022 05:31 PM (oXNqT)

195 Trump never portrays himself as a big time Christian, he simply told them, 'I won't let you down', and he didn't.


*

I'm surprised that super educated Christians like French aren't familiar with characters like Rahab (sp?) in the Bible. God doesn't always use believers to accomplish tasks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:31 PM (Wndnv)

196 Old and busted: Hulk smash!

New and cool: She-Hulk sulk!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 05:32 PM (FVME7)

197 183 So question to all the folks that actually read Silmarillion (all the way through....without dying,....or throwing the book in the trash!).

Which is worse? The orginal Chris Tolkien version from his father's notes or this dreck on Amazon Prime?

-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (SEa82)

Presumably the dreck. Silmarillion just had issues with structure, pacing, and overly similar names between characters. The core ideas and narratives were fine. The themes of this Amazon Prime stuff sound stupid.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 21, 2022 05:32 PM (eYoxG)

198 They have shows in development, for each of the houses from Game of Thrones. Kit Harington acknowledge that he will be back as Jon Snow.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (ndc+z)



The King North of the Wall!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:32 PM (yQpMk)

199 Something that bugs me about Rings of Power is that Morfydd Clark is short. Galadriel is the tallest and fairest of elf maidens. Clark is short. That bugs me.
Elves with short hair also bugs me. I'm shallow that way.
Some Tolkien experts think Galadriel was 6'4".

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:32 PM (VdGjU)

200 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 05:27 PM (c6xtn)

I am glad that things seem to be working out.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 05:32 PM (vH/6k)

201 David French is gayer than Shep Smith

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at September 21, 2022 05:33 PM (QYPq3)

202 Which is worse? The orginal Chris Tolkien version from his father's notes or this dreck on Amazon Prime?

-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (SEa82)

The Silmarillion is absolutely epic, but it's grim as all hell. Christopher had his father's legacy in hand, but he couldn't catch the absolute magic of friendship and idealism. But then, Tolkien's world was fundamentally as fallen as our own, even if the enemies were Dark Lords instead of financial cabals. I would recommend Silmarillion to GoT fans, but be leery of introducing anyone else to it until they were true stans of Tolkien.

Rings of Power is an absolute trainwreck that I will never, ever indulge, not even to appease a woman.

Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 05:33 PM (67hQn)

203 notice how every male superhero has their love interest. They pursue or try to obtain: Thor, Iron Man, Spider Man, Dr. Strange?

That's because while in a lot of ways Stan Lee was a hack, he understood great characterization and storytelling. He knew what it took to make a very interesting, compelling character and how to surround them with a supporting cast that kept people coming back to the read.

These modern writers? Not so much.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:33 PM (Ivdso)

204 Old and busted: Hulk smash!

New and cool: She-Hulk sulk!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 05:32 PM (FVME7)

I warn the littles, "do not make the woman mad." And when they inevitably do, I laugh, and I laugh at them.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 21, 2022 05:33 PM (yHsuS)

205 Who doesn't have much to do since the undead are real dead now.

And hey, why did the Northern People all get deported at the end of the series?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:33 PM (yQpMk)

206 Before you vote, look at your last 401(k) and compare it to 2 years ago

*

Don't forget to account for the 50% real rate of inflation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:33 PM (Wndnv)

207 Since I am the 1% weirdo here, having liked Thor and Dr Strange, I'm being forced to watch RoP. I don't hate it as much as I should. I agree with every plot criticism and wince at some attempts to "sound like Tolkien".

I also don't know how they're time compressing to get to the life of Isildur.

but, I don't hate it.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:33 PM (OuH7W)

208 I'M. FINE!

Posted by: She-Hulk at September 21, 2022 05:33 PM (QYPq3)

209 She-Hulk want snu-snu.

Posted by: She-Hulk at September 21, 2022 05:33 PM (3w5qQ)

210 @115 Read someone explaining the history of Numenor. They actually have a story they could do. It simply wouldn't be woke. Instead, they go with boredom, and SJW posturing. It is all stupid.

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Funny thing is, they could actually have some feminist SJW posturing with the real story. Al-Pharazon, the guy who eventually brought down Numenor was an arrogant Numenorean who forced the female heir to the throne (and his cousin) to marry him, and then proceeded to let his ego do the talking and commit mistake after mistake after mistake. Sounds like something that an SJW with half a brain could use quite well.

Posted by: junior at September 21, 2022 05:34 PM (PTw5h)

211 I don't think a series about each house will work. It is all about the dragons. No one wants a costumed political extravaganza. We have Shakespeare for that. Same as with SW, it is not interesting without the force and lightsabers. Or only interesting once.

Posted by: runner at September 21, 2022 05:34 PM (T+IcW)

212 My understanding is the Numnorians were jealous of the immortality of the elves. Meanwhile, they themselves were long-lived far beyond normal men. You have a story there of how the quest for more, when you already have it pretty good, can lead to destruction.

***

Yeah but see that's according to Tolkien.

It's better if you have a writer who thinks a South Park meme is quality story telling so you can have the MNGA guy railing against elves and jobs while meanwhile the only elf on Numenor spends every minute she's awake TRYING TO LEAVE THE FUCKING ISLAND.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 21, 2022 05:34 PM (wb1YC)

213 Hulk: What’s wrong?

She-Hulk: Nothing.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 21, 2022 05:30 PM (u73oe)

No!
Hulk say: "What wrong?
She-Hulk say: "You should know..."

Posted by: Boswell at September 21, 2022 05:34 PM (+Cgut)

214 Some Tolkien experts think Galadriel was 6'4".
Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:32 PM (VdGjU)



Should've cast Brittney Griner. Would've been a twofer.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at September 21, 2022 05:34 PM (t4BDZ)

215 Hey, now...Isildur's sister (who didn't exist in the source material) got accepted into the Architecture school! So YAY, GIRL POWER!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (YIVH2)

And thus they explain why the city, will fall...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:34 PM (oHd/0)

216 171 We Had Rangz
Posted by: Moron Robbie

lol

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:34 PM (B3oWe)

217 First three episodes of Andor dropped today. I’m in the middle of episode 2. So far, it’s dark, suspenseful, gritty and even brutal on occasion. And absolutely nothing like Star Wars.

It could be a good show, and I’m not far enough in to be able to tell if I’m going to like it, but so far it just doesn’t feel like Star Wars at all.

Is it woke? Well, judging by the flashbacks placing Andor as a child in a tribe of jungle-dwelling natives of a planet being strip-mined by the Empire, I’d be willing to bet there will be a ham-fisted allegory to COLONIZERS coming. If the great evil our hero is forced to confront isn’t capitalism, I’ll be pleasantly surprised. I don’t have high expectations but it could still turn out good.

It’s still not Star Wars, though.

Posted by: Caiwyn at September 21, 2022 05:34 PM (VgZPE)

218
She-Hulk: Objection, your honor!

Judge: Objection to what?

She-Hulk: I shouldn’t have to tell you.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (u73oe)

219 So question to all the folks that actually read Silmarillion (all the way through....without dying,....or throwing the book in the trash!).

Which is worse? The orginal Chris Tolkien version from his father's notes or this dreck on Amazon Prime?

-SLV
Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (SEa82)

I like the Silmarillion as it is - but it isn't a story like the other two. If you think of it as a history book, or a book compiling Mythology for a culture (both of which I have been devouring since I was a kid) then it isn't so bad.

But it is more of a summary of what could be many books, series', and thus would have to be fleshed out rather than cut back to make a tv show.

The Amazon Prime show is too far from Tolkien to even get mad about departures from the show, they just have pulled half a dozen names from a hat. The real problem is that aside from CGI stills here and there, the execution of ROP is awful = bad casting, bad acting mostly, bad script and production....and a good editor would have cut about half of every show at least.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (eoQWY)

220 Something that bugs me about Rings of Power is that Morfydd Clark is short. Galadriel is the tallest and fairest of elf maidens. Clark is short. That bugs me.
Elves with short hair also bugs me. I'm shallow that way.
Some Tolkien experts think Galadriel was 6'4".
Posted by: That NLurker guy


Evangeline Lily as an elf. Hubba hubba.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (ndc+z)

221 Trump never portrays himself as a big time Christian, he simply told them, 'I won't let you down', and he didn't.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 21, 2022 05:28 PM (z/NLz)

Most of the public intellectual Christian are directly or indirectly profiting from the Pharisee cabal on Wall Street. They're less to me than the average heathen. In fact, merely being endorsed by them is enough to convince me a candidate stinks of sulfur.

Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (67hQn)

222
Heh. Just reading ZeroHedge. If the Fed continues its course (and I don't think this includes anywhere near Volcker territory), the CBO has just estimated that federal interest payments are going to triple.

From $400B this fiscal year to $1.2T.

Congress ain't gonna be able to continue this crap. Medicare and Medicaid will, by necessity be the hardest hit. Military budget looks like it will need to get leaner.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (Mzdiz)

223
THE INVISIBLE HOBBIT
by James Baldwin

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (B3oWe)

224 I've never been a fan of raging green women.

It's a real boner killer. Talk about cockblock.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (w2Z7l)

225 Presumably the dreck. Silmarillion just had issues with structure, pacing, and overly similar names between characters. The core ideas and narratives were fine. The themes of this Amazon Prime stuff sound stupid.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 21, 2022 05:32 PM (eYoxG)



A couple of parts were fleshed out, like Lúthien and Beren, but most of it is just world-building notes and backstory to the LoTR.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (yQpMk)

226
Hulk and She-Hulk got drunk on absinthe, ended up bumpin' uglies, and thats how the world ended up with Shrek.

Posted by: Speller at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (pSotA)

227 so, consider the coolest Marvel hero: Hawkeye, the Gen X superhero who is actually just a dude.

He's married. Ok, not really mary jane vision quest for him.

But, he's been Kate Bishop's hero for her entire life and when they meet and hangout, she never puts the move on him. Why? Marvel girls aren't allowed to like boys. she may even be gay.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (OuH7W)

228 Evangeline Lily as an elf. Hubba hubba.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2022

Yes

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (VdGjU)

229 I derived considerably more enjoyment from Mailer's epic takedown of Multiverse of Madness . . .
Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022


***
Wait. Ol' Norman was into fantasy and comics? Who knew?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 05:36 PM (c6xtn)

230 Oh Lawdy, Dem Rangz!

LOL thanks Ace. I hope my dear old Dad doesn't read this whole post to the end!

As to the humor, "It was you! I learned it from watching YOU Ace!". 😂

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 21, 2022 05:36 PM (M9XmQ)

231 Evangeline Lily as an elf. Hubba hubba.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (ndc+z)

Even though her dialogue was stupid in a trilogy that never should have been made, she was a very attractive OC that LOOKED like a true elf.

Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 05:36 PM (67hQn)

232 Hey, now...Isildur's sister (who didn't exist in the source material) got accepted into the Architecture school! So YAY, GIRL POWER!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 21, 2022 05:29 PM (YIVH2)

And thus they explain why the city, will fall...
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:34 PM (oHd/0)

And so they have her mopping the floors there, and standing around at the MAGA riot doing nothing and looking like a dolt. In at least 5 shots. Look, if I were a girl I'd turn down this sort of 'help'

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:36 PM (eoQWY)

233 >>> I would recommend Silmarillion to GoT fans, but be leery of introducing anyone else to it until they were true stans of Tolkien.

is there dialogue in it or is it all narration and genealogies?

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (B3oWe)

234 In fairness, Captain Kirk banged green chicks.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (FVME7)

235 Hulk and She Hulk could wreck a hotel room.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (VdGjU)

236 David French is all-in? ALL IN?

Get a longer dildo for your ass, Davy.

And speaking of all-in, Evan Egg-McMuffin is down 11 points against Mike Lee in Utah. lolol. I guess he's more popular than a scorpion in your shoe. Barely.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (JOtiF)

237 Wait. Ol' Norman was into fantasy and comics? Who knew?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 05:36 PM (c6xtn)

*Groan* meant to say Mauler.

Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (67hQn)

238 Isildur's sister has got the biggest hoots, dayam!

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (OuH7W)

239 Of the Never Trumpers, David French and Rick Wilson are especially repulsive.

Posted by: Blacksheep at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (6mvRv)

240 More rape. All these shows need more rape.

Posted by: George RR Martin at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (ppBhU)

241 233 >>> I would recommend Silmarillion to GoT fans, but be leery of introducing anyone else to it until they were true stans of Tolkien.

is there dialogue in it or is it all narration and genealogies?
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (B3oWe)

Not much dialogue. Having read a number of the GoT books, I wouldn't recommend Silmarillion to GoT fans. D&D nerds who like building campaigns sure.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 21, 2022 05:38 PM (eYoxG)

242 >>>224 I've never been a fan of raging green women.

High-T men can tame them.

Posted by: Captain James Tiberius Kirk at September 21, 2022 05:38 PM (B3oWe)

243 Which is worse? The orginal Chris Tolkien version from his father's notes or this dreck on Amazon Prime?

-SLV


I've read the Silmarillion a number of times. It is what it is, a collection of notes and tales about Middle Earth.

I would rather listen to 8 hours of ambient room noise in a sheet metal factory than one episode of this dreck.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 21, 2022 05:38 PM (wb1YC)

244 Isildur's sister has got the biggest hoots, dayam!

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This is always the best part of the Woke Movie Inc movement. It doesn't matter what you do. People are still people.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:38 PM (Wndnv)

245 Truth , Justice and the Woke Way !

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 05:38 PM (1XoKP)

246 David French is the Jonah Goldberg of Rick Wilsons.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 21, 2022 05:38 PM (u73oe)

247 >>>Hulk and She-Hulk got drunk on absinthe, ended up bumpin' uglies, and thats how the world ended up with Shrek.

Posted by: Speller at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (pSotA)

Little known fact: The way we ended up with Donkey was LeBron bumping uglies with Amy Schumer.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (QYPq3)

248 It's funny - I bet more people read to the end of one of ace's throwaway posts about lame nerd culture and see him call French "gayer than cum on a handlebar mustache," than actually read French himself. I bet that fucking fairy would be mad about that, if he weren't dead inside.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (oINRc)

249 Even though her dialogue was stupid in a trilogy that never should have been made, she was a very attractive OC that LOOKED like a true elf.
Posted by: trev006 at September 21

I caught her using a few words of quenya on Craig Ferguson. Orgasms were involved.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (VdGjU)

250 According to Bloomberg, James is seeking around $250 million in disgorgement from the defendants, and demands that the Trump Organization be barred from engaging in commercial real estate acquisitions in New York for a period of five years. She also asks that Trump and his children be barred from serving as officers or directors of any corporation in the state,

Oh, ok. I'll move the corporate HQ out of NY. And I will happily pull my business from NYC.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (BI+67)

251 Um, the elves have anti-dwarf racism,, not the reverse. Read a book.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (HMTci)

252 @174 Oh I don't know. Tolkien likely was well aware that others sins don't stain his works, his works just point out the flaws in the copies. Like Elves versus the degraded Orc copies, it doesn't affect the elves.

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In Tolkien's letters (collected and published in a book), there are multiple letters that complain about film writers. Apparently someone had approached him about doing a Lord of the Rings movie. And after initially thinking that such an idea would be good, Tolkien changed his mind because of all of the changes that the writer wanted to make to the original plot. One that Tolkien mentions repeatedly is the introduction of a giant eagle named Radagast.

Now LotR has giant eagles. And it has someone named Radagast. But Radagast wasn't an eagle. And Tolkien wasn't having any of it.

Posted by: junior at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (PTw5h)

253 My impression of The Silmarillion from its fans is that it's like the boring parts of the Old Testament for people who aren't into religion.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (ppBhU)

254 I am looking forward to the second half of Dune.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (1XoKP)

255 I can parallel park but have no other She-Hulk abilities.

Posted by: washrivergal at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (JxDRp)

256 Before you vote, look at your last 401(k) and compare it to 2 years ago
Posted by: SMOD at September 21, 2022 05:30 PM (ykvW6)

He was going to crash anyways. The market has been propped up by the Fed since the aughts.

Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (EpDzw)

257 Of the Never Trumpers, David French and Rick Wilson are especially repulsive.

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And look like they were made from the same Simp Factory.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Cancelled Sexy Russian Women at September 21, 2022 05:40 PM (VTu1l)

258 Has George "oh look a squirrel" Martin finished the source material for "House of Dragons"? Because if he hasn't, I'm not interested in watching it.

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 21, 2022 05:40 PM (zL564)

259 >>>My impression of The Silmarillion from its fans is that it's like the boring parts of the Old Testament for people who aren't into religion.

I always thought it was like when Star Trek fans wanted to Level Up and learn Klingon.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:40 PM (B3oWe)

260 @Breaking911 · 13m
"Every day, it’s like one flew over the cuckoo’s nest! Literally, it's a psych ward," Los Angeles business owner says after homeless man threw feces at him.

[Old white nut this time BTW.]

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 05:40 PM (yikp0)

261 Isildur's sister has got the biggest hoots, dayam!

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This is always the best part of the Woke Movie Inc movement. It doesn't matter what you do. People are still people.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:38 PM (Wndnv)

And they know it. Unlike every other woman, she wears garments that cross over the sternum and under the breasts to make sure nothing is lost in a loose gown like they have others wear.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:40 PM (eoQWY)

262 >>>In fairness, Captain Kirk banged green chicks.

>Kirk would get liquored up on that brandy and fuck anything.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 21, 2022 05:40 PM (w2Z7l)

263 253 My impression of The Silmarillion from its fans is that it's like the boring parts of the Old Testament for people who aren't into religion.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (ppBhU)

It's sort of like a history book. Where all the characters have foreign names that sound alike.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (eYoxG)

264 244 Isildur's sister has got the biggest hoots, dayam!

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This is always the best part of the Woke Movie Inc movement. It doesn't matter what you do. People are still people.

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finally a female character that rewards the male gaze. Consider how they nerfed Black Widow from Iron Man II to the latest shit she was in. booo.

it's a whole thing that girl comic characters (and rey for example) are plain and flat as a board.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (OuH7W)

265 If i watched TV, i would watch it just to see what a train wreck it is. Probably why half of the people watched the first episode.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (BI+67)

266 I've seen the She Hulk.

It is as bad as reported.

Really weak writing. Lots of breaking the 4th wall.
It tries to be funny but the jokes don't land because there's no set up.
It tries to make her smart but fails. Like the attorney stuff was written by someone who's entire knowledge of the law is an episode of Law and Order once watched while eating mac n cheese.
It spent a whole episode on her Tinder dating. Seriously. Including multiple dates as hulk. Because guys wanna date a 7 foot green woman? Naturally, she takes a guy home and bangs him after the first date. Because that's stronk and powered.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (Zf0+a)

267 @Breaking911 · 36m
BREAKING: House votes to overhaul rules for certifying presidential elections after Trump's attempt to subvert 2020 results - AP

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (yikp0)

268 As for the show, it's fine. I've seen each episode for free on Prime and it works -- great scenery, sets, and Middle Earth D&D-ism. The race/sex swap outs are retarded but that's the modern world. Unless the character draws attention to their identity I hardy notice and definitely don't care anymore.

Posted by: Blacksheep at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (6mvRv)

269 There's a comedian (Charlie Hopkinson) on YouTube who does an incredible impression of Ian McKellen as Gandolf reviewing each episode of the Rings of Power.

It's much, much better than the actual show and pretty funny.

Posted by: Biergood at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (FQWHA)

270 is there dialogue in it or is it all narration and genealogies?
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (B3oWe)



More like quotes of famous people than real dialog. It does have some good quotes though, like medieval curses.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (yQpMk)

271
Can she parallel park?
Posted by: Bosk at September 21, 2022 05:19 PM (v4L7Y)

___________

"Rrraaawr! Spider!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (1Nxff)

272 Where exactly did she hulk come from? Is that explained in the movie? We know where the original hulk came from.
Posted by: Mister Scott

From Hulk's rib, as God decided Hulk needed a helpmate?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (M9XmQ)

273 From $400B this fiscal year to $1.2T.

Congress ain't gonna be able to continue this crap. Medicare and Medicaid will, by necessity be the hardest hit. Military budget looks like it will need to get leaner.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 21, 2022 05:35 PM (Mzdiz)

Nope. Fed Res currently has over $5 Trillion in Fed Debt on their balance sheet. So, interest will just go the Fed because ONLY the new debt, and rolled over debt, has the new interest rate. Sooo... Fed prints money for the interest, puts it on the US Gov Balance sheet... but the interest is PROFIT...

And except for some profit which is given as dividends to banks, if the Fed makes a profit it gives that money back to... the federal government.

Key result will be MORE MONEY IN THE SYSTEM, thus higher inflation.... not lower inflation... and more paper debt for the US Government sitting on the Fed Balance sheet. Think Ponzi Scheme... and you will be close.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (oHd/0)

274 "More all-in every week"

Nice to know that famed writer Mr. French has no idea what "all-in" means.

Mr. French. "all-in" has nothing to do with your "wife". It is a term from no limit Texas Holdem which means you are placing all of your chips into the pot. You *literally*, by definition, can not go "more all-in".

Posted by: Chuck C at September 21, 2022 05:42 PM (xttsV)

275 I like Evangeline Lilly. I mean really.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:42 PM (VdGjU)

276 Silmarillion was the product JRRT produced when C.S. Lewis wrote the"Out of the Silent Planet" trilogy. They were challenging each other to write supernatural/science fiction. JRRT didn't finish. Lewis did.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at September 21, 2022 05:42 PM (HMTci)

277 I am glad that things seem to be working out.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022


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Thank you, Fen. How are things in your world?

It's been so many years since I read LOTR, and I've only seen the movies once, that my better memory is of Bored of the Rings, that delightful parody of the original novels. Goodgulf Grayteeth the Wizard . . . Legolam the Elf . . . Gimlet, son of Groin, the dwarf . . . the boggies, "simple folk unfamiliar with tools more complicated than a blackjack or a luger" . . .

Hey, they could simply have done a one-shot version of the parody and it would probably have generated better ratings!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 05:42 PM (c6xtn)

278 is there dialogue in it or is it all narration and genealogies?
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (B3oWe)

Ace, I feel Silmarillion reads a little like Leviticus, others may differ in their opinions.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at September 21, 2022 05:43 PM (SEa82)

279 It is a reproduction of a maga rally by people who have never seen a Maga rally.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:43 PM (BI+67)

280 BREAKING: House votes to overhaul rules for certifying presidential elections after Trump's attempt to subvert 2020 results - AP

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did they rename it The Other Anti-Inflation Act?

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:43 PM (OuH7W)

281 I'm looking forward to the remake of Ishtar

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 05:43 PM (us2H3)

282 According to Bloomberg, James is seeking around $250 million in disgorgement from the defendants, and demands that the Trump Organization be barred from engaging in commercial real estate acquisitions in New York for a period of five years

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Hard to believe but Trump has already had slapfights like this in the past with corrupt NY shitbags like Koch, who equally tried to bilk him.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Cancelled Sexy Russian Women at September 21, 2022 05:43 PM (VTu1l)

283 #267 UPDATE:
Eli @Andyharrisfan · 37m
Replying to @Breaking911
What RINOs votes for it?

SandyL @SBrewY · 7m
Upton; Cheney; Gonzalez (OH)
Herrera Beutler; Jacobs (NY)
Katko; Kinzinger; Meijer; Rice (SC)

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 05:43 PM (yikp0)

284 279 It is a reproduction of a maga rally by people who have never seen a Maga rally.

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the left would watch old union movies glorifying Hoffa types and consider that a maga rally too

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:43 PM (OuH7W)

285 David's tweet, "so all in" has tween drama queen written all over it.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2022 05:43 PM (ZO8Ce)

286 Breaking911 · 36m
BREAKING: House votes to overhaul rules for certifying presidential elections after Trump's attempt to subvert 2020 results - AP

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Soooo that's confirming that Trump / MAGA was right, isn't it?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:43 PM (Wndnv)

287 i don't think that's a huge zinger against HIM except this asshole is always saying "Christians can't support Trump because Trump once had Playboy playmates stay at the Trump Plaza, and did a cameo for a video special they were doing! FALSE CHRISTIANS! YE HYPOCRITES!"

so I guess it is a good zinger -- by French's own standards.

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:15 PM (B3oWe)
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That's the point. Make him live up to his own standards.

I guarantee you, hammering a holier-than-thou Christian over watching porn will draw blood.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:44 PM (llXky)

288 Something that bugs me about Rings of Power is that Morfydd Clark is short. Galadriel is the tallest and fairest of elf maidens. Clark is short. That bugs me

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You left out the part where Galadriel is apparently supposed to look like someone who's taking you to court for more alimony.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 21, 2022 05:44 PM (wb1YC)

289 The paid 250 million ! Oh shot !! That is a big scary number

But is it significant?
Disney took in 82 BILLION last year
Revenue 82.000,000,000
She Hulk 250,000,000.
;81,750,000,000
250 mm is like a rounding off error to
Disney. You think being woke is causing them financial pain?


Posted by: Paul at September 21, 2022 05:44 PM (JVAak)

290 You know its a huge failure because all of the media shills have gone totally silent about it.

If there were ANY POSSIBLE WAY to spin this as any kind of success they'd still be screaming about RACISM and DIVERSITY and MUH GURL GALADARIEEEEEEEEL.

As always, when they go absolutely silent on a subject it tells you a whole hell of a lot.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at September 21, 2022 05:44 PM (AjL/0)

291 My impression of The Silmarillion from its fans is that it's like the boring parts of the Old Testament for people who aren't into religion.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (ppBhU)

Its not all boring. Reading the stuff the Noldor did in the First Age brings down the cutesy noble elf image with several huge crashes. And a lot of the worst stuff they did to each other, not the evil they were fighting.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:44 PM (eoQWY)

292 is there dialogue in it or is it all narration and genealogies?
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (B3oWe)

The first chapters may as well be Genesis as it expounds upon the Gods, their natures, and their strife. Everyone talks like they're an epic hero (Hurin, Luthien, but ESPECIALLY Feanor) or some sort of god, because that's what they are.

Go to a bookstore, and read up to the part where Feanor loses the only one he valued above his Silmarils. If you're not feeling it by then, or if you got bored as hell along the way, give up. This one isn't for you. Or ask yourself if you like Greek mythology- NOT the Disney edition. If the answer is anything more lukewarm than "totally," don't even open up the book.

Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 05:44 PM (67hQn)

293 Headline from the BBC --

Donald Trump hit by fraud lawsuit over family business. The obnoxious orange man child is going to jail

The BBC -- The Brit version of NPR, except everyone with a TV has to pay for their news.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 21, 2022 05:44 PM (JOtiF)

294 I am looking forward to the second half of Dune.
Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 05:39 PM (1XoKP)

I do not know what people saw in that version. The actions scenes are bad. The acting is wooden. Finally, the sets are sparse as to be thoughts of sets. Honestly, it was a boring film.

Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 21, 2022 05:44 PM (EpDzw)

295 David French is the Jonah Goldberg of Rick Wilsons.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 21, 2022 05:38 PM (u73oe)


Har.

These people are ridiculous and should be ridiculed; grown men chasing after youthful frivolities while demanding they be taken seriously.

Posted by: John Fetterman at September 21, 2022 05:44 PM (Ed8Zd)

296 As for the show, it's fine. I've seen each episode for free on Prime and it works -- great scenery, sets, and Middle Earth D&D-ism. The race/sex swap outs are retarded but that's the modern world. Unless the character draws attention to their identity I hardy notice and definitely don't care anymore.
Posted by: Blacksheep

I generally concur too. It's ok. Don't hate it. Most criticisms are valid though.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:44 PM (OuH7W)

297 You left out the part where Galadriel is apparently supposed to look like someone who's taking you to court for more alimony.
Posted by: Azathoth at September
Elf Karen.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:45 PM (VdGjU)

298 Trump tried to subvert the 2020 election by ...checks notes...going through channels. acting like democrats in 2000 and 2016.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:45 PM (OuH7W)

299 She-it.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at September 21, 2022 05:45 PM (e4lQj)

300 Lewis wrote his space trilogy in part because he thought "why does all sci fi have to be atheist and darwinist?" So he set about writing sci fi that was neither and ended up being really damned good.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:45 PM (Ivdso)

301 Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 21, 2022 05:41 PM (Zf0+a)

Must have been written by the same people who wrote for Two Broke Girls. I started watching it with the sound off since it had an amazing set of legs and an awesome set of boobs.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 05:45 PM (1XoKP)

302 Last of all Húrin stood alone. Then he cast aside his shield, and wielded an axe two-handed; and it is sung that the axe smoked in the black blood of the troll-guard of Gothmog until it withered, and each time that he slew Húrin cried 'Aurë entuluva! Day shall come again!' Seventy times he uttered that cry; but they took him at last alive...

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:45 PM (yQpMk)

303 Do you think people rejecting your product causes financial pain?!!
- Smart People who got us into our current financial mess

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (Wndnv)

304 Everything I ever wanted to know about this papsmear drivel I'll get for ya'll.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (flbEg)

305 is there dialogue in it or is it all narration and genealogies?
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (B3oWe)

Not much dialogue, IIRC. It is mostly just saying what happened. Absolutely epic, titanic things, but just having someone tell you some stuff.

Note, the Silmarillion is not what they have rights to. They have rights to a small stretch of time during the second age.

So you have:
Age of Gods walking the earth. First Age
Second, boring age
Third Age, the main LOTR storyline

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (dNqv+)

306 According to Bloomberg, James is seeking around $250 million in disgorgement from the defendants, and demands that the Trump Organization be barred from engaging in commercial real estate acquisitions in New York for a period of five years

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If Trump is buying anything in NYC these days he's pretty dumb, since things are nowhere near the bottom yet.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (eoQWY)

307 If David French likes it you know it has to suck like hell, because the is a piece of woke queer horsefly jizz.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (QSjkU)

308 Donald Trump hit by fraud lawsuit over family business. The obnoxious orange man child is going to jail

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the left needs to pay for this.

The DeSantis DOJ needs to run the left and their criminal syndicates from the Bidens to Pelosis into the ground until they cry Uncle.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (OuH7W)

309 77 Can She-Hulk open jars?

Yes, but when she tries to parallel park, all hell breaks loose.

Posted by: Archimedes at September 21, 2022 05:17 PM (ayzS/)
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Surely she can just pick up her car and put it into the slot? Or is that too simple.

Posted by: Ciampino at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (qfLjt)

310 I like Evangeline Lilly. I mean really.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:42 PM (VdGjU)

I am not familiar with her, but a quick search told me that she is very pretty. A 1, if you will.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (xPJvm)

311 Apparently the first time Tolkien wrote about Galadriel was in LOTR. Her backstop was developed afterwards.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (VdGjU)

312 @Breaking911
California man who took selfie in Senate Gallery on Jan. 6 faces 20 years in prison -

Main story report:
https://tinyurl.com/bddfhbf4

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 05:47 PM (yikp0)

313 I do not know what people saw in that version.

I haven't seen the new Dune yet, but I think overall people's standards for what is a great movie have diminished significantly over time. These days if its not an obnoxious preachy movie with gigantic plot holes that spits on you, its a good movie.

Thirty years ago that just described something that wouldn't get canceled in production.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:47 PM (Ivdso)

314 Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 21, 2022 05:44 PM (EpDzw)

I thought the opposite. It's what makes the world go round.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 05:47 PM (1XoKP)

315 Then Fingolfin beheld (as it seemed to him) the utter ruin of the Noldor, and the defeat beyond redress of all their houses; and filled with wrath and despair he mounted Rochallor his great horse and rode forth alone, and none might restrain him. He passed over Dor-nu-Fauglith like a wind amid the dust, and all that beheld his onset fled in amaze, thinking Oromë himself was come; for a great madness of rage was upon him, so that his eyes shone like the eyes of the Valar. Thus he came alone to Angband's gates, and he sounded his horn, and smote once upon the brazen doors, and challenged Morgoth to come forth to single combat. And Morgoth came.
—Quenta Silmarillion, "Of the Ruin of Beleriand and the Fall of Fingolfin"

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:47 PM (yQpMk)

316 oops. from ya'll

Posted by: Ben Had at September 21, 2022 05:47 PM (flbEg)

317 Not much dialogue. Having read a number of the GoT books, I wouldn't recommend Silmarillion to GoT fans. D&D nerds who like building campaigns sure.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 21, 2022 05:38 PM (eYoxG)

ASOIAF who like epic battles, great world building, and extremely mature/ depressing tragedies are well advised to read the Sil. The ones looking for girl power or constant dialogue... not so much.

Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 05:47 PM (67hQn)

318 Why would I watch Rings of Power when I have Tolkien’s books and Peter Jackson’s movies? Get back to me when it is not PC Woke agenda twaddle wrapped in the skinsuit of The Silmarillion.

Posted by: kraken at September 21, 2022 05:47 PM (Vr12I)

319 I like NerdRotic's names for all the Rings of Glower characters:

https://youtu.be/GYCe0NQ-7Mc

Girl-sildur for Isildur's fake sister.
Don Lemonless for the black elf.
Guy-ladriel for Galadriel.
Sauron, I mean Halbrand.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 21, 2022 05:47 PM (GzEpy)

320 Wait. Ol' Norman was into fantasy and comics? Who knew?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022
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*Groan* meant to say Mauler.
Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022


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Now you've lost me. Or did Gustav Mahler take time from composing Symphony No. 10 to read the latest X-Men?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 05:48 PM (c6xtn)

321 Off goiter sock!

Posted by: LASue at September 21, 2022 05:48 PM (Ed8Zd)

322 Apart from how the Numenoreans are portrayed vs. Tolkein's vision in the clip above (not how I would imagine it anyway based on what I remember from reading Silmarillion a long time ago), what's that about this series costing $1b? Can't tell by looking at that clip. Maybe they are funneling a significant sum to Hunter and the Big Guy instead of sets and costumes. I'm guessing there are wide sweeping shots of breathtaking visuals, then when there are shots of actors doing their poorly scripted lines, they are boxed into tiny sets.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 21, 2022 05:48 PM (fs1hN)

323 So you have:
Age of Gods walking the earth. First Age
Second, boring age
Third Age, the main LOTR storyline
Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (dNqv+)


Well, there is some interest in the men in Numenor invading "heaven" on the flat earth to take immortality from the Gods, which causes the Over-God to sink the continent and bend the earth round so you can't sail an invasion fleet into heaven.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:48 PM (eoQWY)

324 it's cool of Manhattan DA to make ...checks notes...doing business illegal in nyc. should help with the economy.

When is trump going to file a 1983 civil rights lawsuit.

The GOP, if it doesn't want to end up like the Romanovs, had better start pushing back with their own lawfare.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:48 PM (OuH7W)

325 The Paolo is, how you say, all in David French’s wife.

Posted by: Paolo at September 21, 2022 05:48 PM (u73oe)

326 311 Apparently the first time Tolkien wrote about Galadriel was in LOTR. Her backstop was developed afterwards.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (VdGjU)

Sauron was in the Silmarillion. I struggle to recall if anyone else was. Shelob's mom, idk about Shelob herself. Some places in LOTR are named after characters in the Silmarillion (who are "historical figures"). Maybe the magi?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 21, 2022 05:48 PM (eYoxG)

327 Again, She Hulk could have been amusing. However, since it is woke and the left is completely devoid of a sense of humor, naturally She Hulk is bad.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at September 21, 2022 05:49 PM (ZO8Ce)

328
A new paper out by the Kansas City Fed lays it out succinctly in central-bankster speak:

Trend inflation is fully controlled by the monetary authority only when public debt can be successfully stabilized by credible future fiscal plans. When the fiscal authority is not perceived as fully responsible for covering the existing fiscal imbalances, the private sector expects that inflation will rise to ensure sustainability of national debt. As a result, a large fiscal imbalance combined with a weakening fiscal credibility may lead trend inflation to drift away from the long-run target chosen by the monetary authority.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 21, 2022 05:49 PM (Mzdiz)

329 Lewis wrote his space trilogy in part because he thought "why does all sci fi have to be atheist and darwinist?" So he set about writing sci fi that was neither and ended up being really damned good.

I've read the first two, and the third sits on a shelf. I've concluded that I like the idea of C.S. Lewis more than C.S. Lewis.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2022 05:49 PM (ppBhU)

330 Last of all Húrin stood alone. Then he cast aside his shield, and wielded an axe two-handed; and it is sung that the axe smoked in the black blood of the troll-guard of Gothmog until it withered, and each time that he slew Húrin cried 'Aurë entuluva! Day shall come again!' Seventy times he uttered that cry; but they took him at last alive...

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The Children of Hurin book is my answer to GRRM fanbois who think Tolkien is too "happy".

Posted by: Azathoth at September 21, 2022 05:49 PM (wb1YC)

331 New election rules: at midnight the day after election day, the House will meet and certify the slate of democrats on the federal election billets as the winner of every race. Those republicans objecting can sue to overturn the result, but they have 2 days to file and must include 1 million signatures of confirmed voters in each state and district being contested.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:49 PM (BI+67)

332 These days if its not an obnoxious preachy movie with gigantic plot holes that spits on you, its a good movie.

Thirty years ago that just described something that wouldn't get canceled in production.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Yep. There are a lot of older movies I remember thinking sucked that I've gone back and watched recently that I find are pretty good when viewed from 2022.

Posted by: Biergood at September 21, 2022 05:49 PM (FQWHA)

333 Since we're talking about movies, I'll mention one that has nothing to do with Tolkien or elfs She -Hulks. It is the 1941 version of "How Green Was My Valley" from a book by Richard Llewellyn. It is an excellent film and has an adorable Roddy McDowell in probably his first screen role as the lovely Maureen O'Hara as Roddy's sister. I don't know who the dunderhead (It was directed by John Ford who has some excellent films) was who cast Walter Pigeon as the chapel (which is the name for evangelical churches at the time-often Methodist) minister. In the film they say he has come to the local chapel out of seminary. I don't most people went into the pastorate as a second career back them, so that should make the minister about 25 or so. Walter Pigeon was about 43 at the time and he was a Canadian-American actor. He's dreadful and cannot do a Welsh accent at all. He's not even trying. That said, it is lovely film.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 05:50 PM (vH/6k)

334 306 According to Bloomberg, James is seeking around $250 million in disgorgement from the defendants, and demands that the Trump Organization be barred from engaging in commercial real estate acquisitions in New York for a period of five years

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just a reminder, the lefts' diversity hires are dumb and can't law well.

that's why they have to make up shit and hide evidence from the defendants.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:50 PM (OuH7W)

335 Hernandez initially stood by a series of bicycle racks, set up to keep people from illegally entering the Capitol grounds.
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Bicycle racks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:50 PM (Wndnv)

336 I watch a lot of LOTR YouTube channels.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:50 PM (VdGjU)

337 More from that Fed paper:

In this pathological situation, monetary tightening would actually spur higher inflation and would spark a pernicious fiscal stagflation, with the inflation rate drifting away from the monetary authority’s target and with GDP growth slowing down considerably. While in the short run, monetary tightening might succeed in partially reducing the business cycle component of inflation, the trend component of inflation would move in the opposite direction as a result of the higher fiscal burden. Fiscal stagflation does not stem from a perceived or actual loss of anti-inflation reputation by the central bank. Rather, it is caused by the progressive deterioration of the fiscal authority’s credibility to stabilize its large debt and the realization that the reputation of the monetary authority is incompatible with the expected behavior of the fiscal authority.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 21, 2022 05:50 PM (Mzdiz)

338 And Morgoth came.
—Quenta Silmarillion, "Of the Ruin of Beleriand and the Fall of Fingolfin"
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 05:47 PM (yQpMk)

"Come fight me, you motherless son of a whore!"
Take this!
And this!
And this!
(repeat 4 more times)
Fuck.

Posted by: Fingolfin, Son of Feanor, fighting a Demigod at September 21, 2022 05:50 PM (dNqv+)

339 Willowed:
55 43 ...Hollywood chooses to learn the lessons it wants to learn.

Movies that are successful that don't fit their preferred direction just become "flukes" in the minds of the studio executives. At best, Paramount will admit that it's Tom Cruise in an action movie that is the sole reason for Maverick's success. This will be verified when the next Mission Impossible movie makes a bunch of money.

The pro-US part can easily be ignored.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 21, 2022 01:16 PM (LvTSG)


I think you can draw an analogy between Hollywood products and the auto industry and CAFE standards. It's not about "learning lessons". It's about affording to produce crap.

The "activist approved" products get propped up by ICE pickup trucks and movies like Maverick. The failure of the SJW/Green stuff won't make it go away. "Normie" product prices increase as a stealth tax to keep the virtue signalers a-signaling.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at September 21, 2022 05:51 PM (8C7+r)

340 meant "and Maureen O'Hara as Roddy's sister. .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 05:51 PM (vH/6k)

341 Amazon really -really- wants me to watch their woke remake of LOTR. Amazon packaging is now festooned with rings of power advertising, and on Prime, the only commercial that pops up between episodes of other stuff worth watching is the rings show, and unlike other commercials, you can't ff past them.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at September 21, 2022 05:51 PM (CCf67)

342 Off goiter sock!

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I think they're just called "hoodies"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 21, 2022 05:51 PM (Wndnv)

343
The Fed is telling Congress to get it's fucking fiscal act together. Note the part about tightening making inflation worse if Congress doesn't get this spending under control.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 21, 2022 05:51 PM (Mzdiz)

344 I would recommend Silmarillion to GoT fans, but be leery of introducing anyone else to it until they were true stans of Tolkien.

is there dialogue in it or is it all narration and genealogies?

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (B3oWe)
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The Silmarillion is very uneven because it was a series of texts compiled by Christopher into a narrative whole. Some parts read like the Old Testament. There are genealogies.

However, once the narrative portions get going, it is seriously metal. Think of it as related essays that build upon each other. You can read them out of order if needed, and there is a glossary in back if you get confused because all the Elves' names are often similar.

I say it is metal, because it is dark. No happy hobbits here! Much of the story is one of valiant defeat as the Elves realize they've picked a fight with a god who can field entire units of Balrogs and dragons.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:51 PM (llXky)

345 But - Amazon will make their money off of Rings of Power. People will watch anything with lots of action and high tech CGI.

Posted by: kraken at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (Vr12I)

346 Canada dropping fax mandate end of the month - conveniently in time for tourist ski season.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (oWBc3)

347 Except James isn't going for jail time. A $250 million fine and business restrictions which will force Trump, inc out of NY state. So, a win all around?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (BI+67)

348 Vax

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (oWBc3)

349 @222

>>From $400B this fiscal year to $1.2T.

I think we are going to be hearing the words, Abracadabra uttered by a lot of Western Governments in the next year or so.

Because the debt that has been occurred can never be repaid and they cannot effectively keep the plates spinning any longer without crashing everything.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (up/3i)

350 Text of the house election bill:

Democrats win, always.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (u73oe)

351 The only thing more tedious and pointless and masturbatory than endless woke remakes of decrepitly old IPs is votes on Capitol Hill.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (oINRc)

352 commie that killed the MAGA kid is out on bail.

Posted by: Fool Otto at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (DB16e)

353 Evangeline might be why I got hooked on Lost, she is a hottie

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 05:53 PM (k8B25)

354 ASOIAF who like epic battles, great world building, and extremely mature/ depressing tragedies are well advised to read the Sil. The ones looking for girl power or constant dialogue... not so much.
Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 05:47 PM (67hQn)

Oh, there's a girl power moment or two. Beren and Luthien, the most beautiful elf ever fall in love. Beren is tasked with taking a Silmaril, something that elves have been fighting a God for 1000 years over. He tries and gets captured. Luthien follows, defeats Sauron, rescues her man, and puts the God Morgoth to sleep with a song so that they can get the Gem. On the way out Beren gets killed but resurrected to make a happy ending.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:53 PM (eoQWY)

355 These green women better look like Rachel Welch or Charlotte McKinney. No Lena Dunhams allowed.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 21, 2022 05:53 PM (w2Z7l)

356 Is Rings of Power enough to make people get Prime memberships? That is the only way they can make money on the project. New prime memberships to watch it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:53 PM (BI+67)

357 @291 Its not all boring. Reading the stuff the Noldor did in the First Age brings down the cutesy noble elf image with several huge crashes. And a lot of the worst stuff they did to each other, not the evil they were fighting.

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Yup. There's a lot of *really* ugly stuff in the Silmarillion. It's epic fantasy, but not as we think of it. It's more the old traditional stuff, where otherwise great people let their pride get in the way and proceed to screw everything up. You have nominal good-guys massacring settlements of their own allies, and similar moments of darkness. The bulk of the book is a long, slow descent into darkness with occasional moments of light emerging, until finally the Valar come and stomp on the big bad.

Posted by: junior at September 21, 2022 05:53 PM (PTw5h)

358 Anything woke is bad. Because woke is bad. Woke has no virtue, no value, no redeeming features. It's mind poison that kills off any thought that isn't just plain insane and anything that might be humorous, because woke is all about victimhood, and a victim must always be miserable whether real or imagined.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 21, 2022 05:53 PM (QSjkU)

359 The DeSantis DOJ needs to run the left and their criminal syndicates from the Bidens to Pelosis into the ground until they cry Uncle.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:46 PM (OuH7W)

Yeah, but that's not going to happen. It wasn't until the Epstein revelations that I understood how corrupt Wall Street was, and what was really going on. The oligarchs at the top are likely still being blackmailed by the FBI in partnership with certain foreign intelligence services. Anyone promising to simply fire the deep state is simply unaware of how Wall Street funded the BLM terror movement to attack America during the pandemic.

It's possible for governors to prove they're better than Trump, but unless they proscribe the Democrats and start mass arrests within their state I'm not taking that gamble.

Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 05:54 PM (67hQn)

360
Sauron was in the Silmarillion. I struggle to recall if anyone else was. Shelob's mom, idk about Shelob herself. Some places in LOTR are named after characters in the Silmarillion (who are "historical figures"). Maybe the magi?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 21, 2022 05:48 PM (eYoxG)
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Cirdan the Shipwright, Galadriel (who got to watch all her siblings get killed), Celeborn (who hates dwarves because they sacked Menegroth) and Elrond, who was born near the end of the war.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:54 PM (llXky)

361 I wonder if Luthien has a Big Juicy Booty???

Posted by: kraken at September 21, 2022 05:54 PM (Vr12I)

362 207 Since I am the 1% weirdo here, having liked Thor and Dr Strange, I'm being forced to watch RoP. I don't hate it as much as I should.

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sockamster, same here. It's been okay watching. I was more annoyed at Wheel of Time.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 21, 2022 05:54 PM (p/nbH)

363 347 Except James isn't going for jail time. A $250 million fine and business restrictions which will force Trump, inc out of NY state. So, a win all around?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (BI+67)

Oh good grief, Schlicter just put up a good tweet hread about it. Even with a very quick glance, he found plenty of reason to dismiss for failure to state a proper claim. The suit, from what people have seen so far, is pathetically childish. But it won't make it to court before the midterms, so Mission Accomplished as far as James is concerned.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (trdmm)

364 It is the 1941 version of "How Green Was My Valley" from a book by Richard Llewellyn. It is an excellent film and has an adorable Roddy McDowell in probably his first screen role as the lovely Maureen O'Hara as Roddy's sister. I don't know who the dunderhead (It was directed by John Ford who has some excellent films) was who cast Walter Pigeon as the chapel (which is the name for evangelical churches at the time-often Methodist) minister. . . . That said, it is lovely film.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022


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I believe it was an Oscar nominee for Best Picture in its year?

What was the film Pidgeon did with Greer Garson? I saw it on YooToob a year or two ago, and now can't recall the title.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (c6xtn)

365 commie that killed the MAGA kid is out on bail.
Posted by: Fool Otto at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (DB16e)


I assume Kamalatoe helped raise the money?


Posted by: Sticky Wicket at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (CCf67)

366 $250 million is real money, fuck that shit.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (OuH7W)

367 Did the dick in WA not vote for it

Posted by: REDACTED at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (us2H3)

368 We're practically down to "US outlaws Trump!" headlines from the NYT or the WAPO or ABC/NBC/CBC/MSNBC/CNN whenever the Dems in Congress pass some unconstitutional doofus memo to themselves that they hate their opposition.

The whole "Congress rewrites election laws" screaming headline tonight from ABC is really: "Politicians who better agree with us and do what we say, did something we desperately want, even though no one really believes this is going to make it more than six months before some judge tells us were all retarded..."

Posted by: Boswell at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (+Cgut)

369 One of my biggest criticisms of Peter Jackson's movies was not using the small cameo that Glorfindel has in the Fellowship book right before they reach Rivendell.

Dude was a complete badass. The only other one in ME besides Gandalf to kick a balrog's ass.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (wb1YC)

370 I wonder if Luthien has a Big Juicy Booty???
Posted by: kraken at September 21, 2022

I don't picture any LOTR babes having big, juicy booties.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 05:56 PM (VdGjU)

371 Btw, 'Grond' the battering ram used to breach the gates of Minas Tirith in the third book, is also the name of Morgoth's mace.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 05:56 PM (dNqv+)

372 Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 21, 2022 05:53 PM (QSjkU)

Good summary on Woke and what it really is. Excellent in fact.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 05:56 PM (1XoKP)

373 ...in the comics, she was shot by the mob and her cousin, bruce banner, had to give her an emergency blood transfusion to save her life. His blood made her a hulk...

Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:11 PM


There was so much they could have done just with the beginning based on the comics. His moral dilemma about saving her life or changing it forever - without her permission could have been a great friction point throughout the series. Plus, he was on the run at the time. I don't know why the left fears the character arc, but they seem hell-bent that a female is perfection from the start.

One of the best parts is it seems their former target audience finds this show to be the ultimate cringe, as well as the people they seem to want to attract. I see videos from content creators I've never heard of taking a dump on this sack of crap. Marvel intends to make sure nobody who read the comics is going to stick around.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at September 21, 2022 05:56 PM (zB/T/)

374
commie that killed the MAGA kid is out on bail.
Posted by: Fool Otto at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (DB16e)

Next up: seven figure GFM and a book deal. "Wheels of Justice."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2022 05:56 PM (oINRc)

375 I say it is metal, because it is dark. No happy hobbits here! Much of the story is one of valiant defeat as the Elves realize they've picked a fight with a god who can field entire units of Balrogs and dragons.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:51 PM (llXky)

Well, they knew that going in, but that's Noldor for you and Feanor was even worse. Otherwise they are very Viking. The Gods forbid you leaving to attack another God. Screw them, and when your neighbors won't lend you their boats you just kill them and take the boats?

Not enough ships to carry the whole crew? Take your buddies in the first wave and burn the ships, leaving the others stranded. What do the stranded Noldor do? Walk to the Arctic and follow them anyway!

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:57 PM (eoQWY)

376 Oh, there's a girl power moment or two. Beren and Luthien, the most beautiful elf ever fall in love. Beren is tasked with taking a Silmaril, something that elves have been fighting a God for 1000 years over. He tries and gets captured. Luthien follows, defeats Sauron, rescues her man, and puts the God Morgoth to sleep with a song so that they can get the Gem. On the way out Beren gets killed but resurrected to make a happy ending.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:53 PM (eoQWY)
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It should be pointed out that Luthien's mom is Maia, just like Sauron. So she's got some lineage going.

And she doesn't directly defeat them, she sings of power and hope (or against Morgoth) a song of weariness and sleep.

So she's very feminine. Tolkien's inspiration for her was his wife, who danced in the woods for him while he was on leave during WW I. He never forgot it.

Is it dusty in here?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:57 PM (llXky)

377 No one could hold a candle to Brian Dennehy as the Cathedral of Notre Dame in the Hunchback movies!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 05:57 PM (yikp0)

378
Just the rights to the material -- which is just some of the appendices in the back of Return of the King -- cost $250 million.



I KNEW that hiring a Ferengi solicitor to do the negotiation was a good idea...

Posted by: Zombie Christopher Tolkien at September 21, 2022 05:57 PM (n+4am)

379 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 21, 2022 05:50 PM (Mzdiz)

or to paraphrase... we beez in trouble, the rubes have figured out this is a cross between a Ponzi scheme, and a shell game.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:57 PM (oHd/0)

380 >> Fiscal stagflation does not stem from a perceived or actual loss of anti-inflation reputation by the central bank. Rather, it is caused by the progressive deterioration of the fiscal authority’s credibility to stabilize its large debt and the realization that the reputation of the monetary authority is incompatible with the expected behavior of the fiscal authority.

Well, that part is true anyway.

Posted by: Blacksheep at September 21, 2022 05:58 PM (6mvRv)

381 361 I wonder if Luthien has a Big Juicy Booty???
Posted by: kraken at September 21, 2022 05:54 PM (Vr12I)

I am thinking a rack for the Ages.

Btw, do not search 'busty elf' with safesearch off.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 05:58 PM (dNqv+)

382 So, we went from an insurrection worse than 9/11 to Congress rewriting election laws?

Posted by: Fool Otto at September 21, 2022 05:58 PM (DB16e)

383 333 Since we're talking about movies, I'll mention one that has nothing to do with Tolkien or elfs She -Hulks. It is the 1941 version of "How Green Was My Valley" from a book by Richard Llewellyn. It is an excellent film and has an adorable Roddy McDowell in probably his first screen role as the lovely Maureen O'Hara as Roddy's sister.

One of the funniest Frasier episodes was one where Frasier drives a video store clerk crazy by trying to track down the only copy of "How Green Was My Valley".

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 05:58 PM (trdmm)

384 How can a homicide suspect be released on bail??

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2022 05:58 PM (OTzUX)

385 377 No one could hold a candle to Brian Dennehy as the Cathedral of Notre Dame in the Hunchback movies!
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 05:57 PM (yikp0)

The tried to get him to play Minas Tirith in Return of the King... but he was busy with another project...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 05:58 PM (oHd/0)

386 Dude was a complete badass. The only other one in ME besides Gandalf to kick a balrog's ass.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (wb1YC)
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There may have been two of them. The Glorfindel who fought the balrog died in the battle and a cairn was built over him.

Likely the one in LotR was named after him.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:59 PM (llXky)

387 LotR started with excellent material and is now producing crap. Steaming, Michael Moore after eating Indian food refuse.

Meanwhile WarHammer started with crap just so they could sell models and they've built a compelling fantasy universe.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 21, 2022 05:59 PM (ESjRY)

388 is there dialogue in it or is it all narration and genealogies?
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (B3oWe)

it's deadly dull, ace
duller than... than Hound of the Baskervilles

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 21, 2022 05:59 PM (p/nbH)

389 384 How can a homicide suspect be released on bail??


they chose to charge him with vehicular manslaughter only is how

insanity

also these shows all suck and I'm pretending they don't exist lol

that said - See? - is that good? what is that about?

Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 21, 2022 05:59 PM (w0NJk)

390 is there dialogue in it or is it all narration and genealogies?
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (B3oWe)

Ok as far as "Dune" reproductions go, this one is FAR BETTER than the Dino De Laurentiis debacle of 1984.

Sry, but Dino may have done "some" good films, but he RUINED a LOT. See for example his version of "King Kong".

Hey, have we ever done a list of De Laurentiis "crash and burns" on AoS?

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at September 21, 2022 05:59 PM (SEa82)

391 I believe it was an Oscar nominee for Best Picture in its year?
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It won, pissing off future Citizen Kane fanboys.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 05:59 PM (yikp0)

392 Sickening but not surprised the Murder is out on bail.
You know who isn't? 900 MAGA people in Garland Gulag

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (k8B25)

393 Luthien follows, defeats Sauron, rescues her man, and puts the God Morgoth to sleep with a song so that they can get the Gem. On the way out Beren gets killed but resurrected to make a happy ending.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:53 PM (eoQWY)

Yeah, it was awesome, but it's like halfway through the book. Which is quite fine, as is the tale of Turin son of Hurin, it's just not how I would gauge someone's readiness to get through everything else.

And of course no SJW would ever tolerate a woman claiming victory through enchanted song anymore, unless it was in Sing 3 or some stupid thing.

Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (67hQn)

394 I wonder if Luthien has a Big Juicy Booty???

"Brilliant! We'll have a scene with her twerking!"

The only other one in ME besides Gandalf to kick a balrog's ass.

And he cheated, using one of the rings. And he died in the process.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (Ivdso)

395 388 is there dialogue in it or is it all narration and genealogies?
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (B3oWe)

it's deadly dull, ace
duller than... than Hound of the Baskervilles
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 21, 2022 05:59 PM (p/nbH)

That’s pretty dull, vmom!!

Posted by: kraken at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (Vr12I)

396 I will always like good triumphs over evil movies (indifferent to comic book movies) even though the real world doesn't always reflect that.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (1XoKP)

397 What was the film Pidgeon did with Greer Garson? I saw it on YooToob a year or two ago, and now can't recall the title.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (c6xtn)

Mrs. Miniver, very popular wartime film in the UK.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (trdmm)

398 Ecthelion, the Knight of the Fountain, killed Gothmog (lord of the Balrogs) during the Fall of Gondolin.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (dNqv+)

399 Shorter democrats: Yes, we know it’s all laid out in the constitution but fuck it, YOLO!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (u73oe)

400 382 So, we went from an insurrection worse than 9/11 to Congress rewriting election laws?

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rewriting election laws...i.e., federealizing elections has been another fascist overreach sought by Biden's handlers. I guess they're getting that as the GOP has dissolved as a political entity.

I mean, basically unless we get new leadership, we're beyond Spanish Civil war and will have bolshies running things like 1917

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (OuH7W)

401 If you can get past the fact that RoP is not Tolkien, I actually think it's not too bad. I enjoyed episodes 3-4 more than 1-2, possibly because I better knew where to set my expectations in that regard (but I think they were also just better)

Posted by: tintex at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (J4/7u)

402
How can a homicide suspect be released on bail??

Posted by: rhomboid at September 21, 2022 05:58 PM


$50,000 bail. Which makes a 'run for the border' a distinct probability.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (y3pKJ)

403 Not enough ships to carry the whole crew? Take your buddies in the first wave and burn the ships, leaving the others stranded. What do the stranded Noldor do? Walk to the Arctic and follow them anyway!

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 05:57 PM (eoQWY)
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And yet flowers sprang up beneath their footsteps when the reached Middle Earth at the first rising of the Moon.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 06:01 PM (llXky)

404 Yup. There's a lot of *really* ugly stuff in the Silmarillion. It's epic fantasy, but not as we think of it. It's more the old traditional stuff, where otherwise great people let their pride get in the way and proceed to screw everything up. You have nominal good-guys massacring settlements of their own allies, and similar moments of darkness. The bulk of the book is a long, slow descent into darkness with occasional moments of light emerging, until finally the Valar come and stomp on the big bad.
Posted by: junior at September 21, 2022 05:53 PM (PTw5h)

And the Valar destroy about a third of Middle Earth in doing even that. As in under the ocean, leaving the coastline of Middle Earth hundreds of miles to the east from where it had been in the first age.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 06:01 PM (eoQWY)

405 There may have been two of them. The Glorfindel who fought the balrog died in the battle and a cairn was built over him.

Likely the one in LotR was named after him.

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Oooh, that's a big old can of worms. There's been back and forth over the years concerning notes that state that Glorfindel was actually reincarnated for his valor. Again, that makes him tied with Gandalf since he was allowed to come back too.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 21, 2022 06:01 PM (wb1YC)

406 @326 Sauron was in the Silmarillion. I struggle to recall if anyone else was. Shelob's mom, idk about Shelob herself. Some places in LOTR are named after characters in the Silmarillion (who are "historical figures"). Maybe the magi?

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Galadriel was. She was one of the leaders of the second vanguard of the Nolder who were returning to Middle-Earth.

Elrond gets a mention, iirc, as one of the sons of Erendil. The Numenoreans are descended from his brother.

Pretty much everyone else dies.

Incidentally, there's a Glorfindel. But he dies fighting a Balrog.

Posted by: junior at September 21, 2022 06:01 PM (PTw5h)

407 388 is there dialogue in it or is it all narration and genealogies?
Posted by: ace at September 21, 2022 05:37 PM (B3oWe)

it's deadly dull, ace
duller than... than Hound of the Baskervilles
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 21, 2022 05:59 PM (p/nbH)

I didn't find Hound of the Baskervilles dull and did find Silmarillion a slog. So there you have it.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 21, 2022 06:01 PM (eYoxG)

408 384 How can a homicide suspect be released on bail??
Posted by: rhomboid

it can happen.

but note that Rittenhouse and that other guy who killed the weirdo black guy hitting on his girlfriend in self-defense spent the entire pre-trial period in jail.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 06:02 PM (OuH7W)

409 Rings of Power is basically Amazon trying to do Game of Thrones on their own, with a different property, but without a solid writer. They seriously hurt their chances with some hamfisted marketing and are spending so much on advertising now I don't see how they make a profit off this.

Supposedly they have five years of shows planned.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 06:02 PM (Ivdso)

410 And of course no SJW would ever tolerate a woman claiming victory through enchanted song anymore, unless it was in Sing 3 or some stupid thing.

In an Amazon or HBO series, she'd defeat Morgoth (or whoever) by arousing him with a stirring rendition of WAP.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2022 06:02 PM (ppBhU)

411 RoP is definitely better than the abominable adaptation of Wheel of Time, which only exists for Rafe Judkins to create fanfic about gay warders (and gay everyone else)

Posted by: tintex at September 21, 2022 06:03 PM (J4/7u)

412 Oh good grief, Schlicter just put up a good tweet hread about it. Even with a very quick glance, he found plenty of reason to dismiss for failure to state a proper claim. The suit, from what people have seen so far, is pathetically childish. But it won't make it to court before the midterms, so Mission Accomplished as far as James is concerned.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (trdmm)

Yes, but we are now OFFICIALLY a banana republic

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 21, 2022 06:03 PM (xDh35)

413 Geez - sometimes we sound like Howard, Sheldon, Rajesh and Sheldon discussing Star Wars.

Posted by: kraken at September 21, 2022 06:03 PM (Vr12I)

414 I feel like I'm the only person in the horde that had no interest in reading LOTR.

Posted by: polynikes at September 21, 2022 06:03 PM (1XoKP)

415 347 Except James isn't going for jail time. A $250 million fine and business restrictions which will force Trump, inc out of NY state. So, a win all around?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (BI+67)

Oh good grief, Schlicter just put up a good tweet hread about it. Even with a very quick glance, he found plenty of reason to dismiss for failure to state a proper claim. The suit, from what people have seen so far, is pathetically childish. But it won't make it to court before the midterms, so Mission Accomplished as far as James is concerned.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (trdmm)

The lawsuit sounds so incredibly desperate that the only explanation is the idiot DA is getting a TON of pressure from the Clintons and other dems to get something on file against Trump --STAT!

Posted by: LASue at September 21, 2022 06:03 PM (Ed8Zd)

416 348 Vax

make mine an 11/730, please

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 21, 2022 06:03 PM (v3pYe)

417 In an Amazon or HBO series, she'd defeat Morgoth (or whoever) by arousing him with a stirring rendition of WAP.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2022 06:02 PM (ppBhU)

Yeesh. Those Jezzes can't even arouse me with that whore tripe.

Posted by: trev006 at September 21, 2022 06:03 PM (67hQn)

418 Gilfach Gogh was the real Welsh village that movie was based on. My family has roots there, verified by parish records, and my real name comes from that book.

Like many miners, they eventually settled in the Nanticoke/Wilkes-Barre area.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 21, 2022 06:04 PM (HRpcd)

419 A drunk imbecile murders a kid and gets bailed out. Trespass in the rotunda and get no bail and 20 years. Makes sense. There is your fukkin Democrat justice.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 21, 2022 06:04 PM (QSjkU)

420 commie that killed the MAGA kid is out on bail.
Posted by: Fool Otto at September 21, 2022 05:52 PM (DB16e)


It's unbelievable they even set bail. No matter how high it was, he'd have been out by week's end. Soros has deep pockets, and so does the democrat party.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at September 21, 2022 06:04 PM (zB/T/)

421 I mean, basically unless we get new leadership, we're beyond Spanish Civil war and will have bolshies running things like 1917

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 06:00 PM (OuH7W)
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Lots of parallels with the Spanish Civil War. Long-time readers of this Smart Military Blog already own and have read Long Live Death: The Keys to Victory in the Spanish Civil War, which Ace needs to pimp relentlessly. Link in my nic.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 06:04 PM (llXky)

422 There may have been two of them. The Glorfindel who fought the balrog died in the battle and a cairn was built over him.

Likely the one in LotR was named after him.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:59 PM (llXky)

It started out that way, Tolkien forgot that he had put a Glorfindel both in the first age who died and one in the LOTR. He then retconned that they were the same dude, he got pulled out of the Halls of Mandos and put back in action. So in canon they are the same Glorfindel.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 06:04 PM (eoQWY)

423 yup, RoP is not that bad. I don't see how we're going to account for all the time issues because we have teenage Isildur and that means we're only 20 years or so in time until the preamble of the first LotR movie fighting Sauron.

seems like a lot of ground to cover...especially when we're talking local Numernorian union/guild politics.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at September 21, 2022 06:04 PM (OuH7W)

424 All the best Rings of Power reviews I've read are here:

https://arkhavencomics.com/blog/

Scroll for articles by The Dark Herald. Good one to start with is The Feminist Hero's Journey, a list of 11 rules which Hollywood *must*, and does, follow with every feminist heroine. She-Hulk and Karen-Galadriel are no exception. Neither are Mary Sue Rey from Star Wars and Miss Marvel. The template is set in stone.

After reading that blog entry, scroll around and read the (four so far) reviews for Rings of Power episodes. The Dark Herald knows his Tolkein, and the reviews are Ace-Tier Cruel.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 21, 2022 06:04 PM (M9XmQ)

425 Saw Ace's entry in the sidebar about NR and Glenn Youngkin. Great stuff, ace.

I also decided to click on the link, and read the article. Wasted about a minute of my life doing so. Interesting exercise that I did, though, was check the reference links that Mr. Bobby Miller used to bolster his 'argument'. His sources were as follows:
1. Politico
2. Free Beacon
3. Vice
4. Newsweek
5. Axios
6. National Review
7-8. CNN
9. Vox

It basically repeats from there. Like I said, waste of time.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 21, 2022 06:04 PM (9miN6)

426 In an Amazon or HBO series, she'd defeat Morgoth (or whoever) by arousing him with a stirring rendition of WAP.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2022 06:02 PM (ppBhU)

Meanwhile, Celeborn, Elrond, and their friends would do a rousing rendition of "In the Navy".

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 06:05 PM (trdmm)

427 @407 - I agree on both points.

Posted by: Blacksheep at September 21, 2022 06:05 PM (6mvRv)

428 Is Haldrad Sauron.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 21, 2022 06:06 PM (VdGjU)

429 The thing is, Galadriel is supposed to be ridiculously powerful and capable. Its just that the writers for this show don't quite comprehend how to write such a character and the girl they have playing her looks more like she should be reading a bedtime story to your kid and practicing cheerleader moves.

She's not supposed to be doing wire-fu combat stuff with a sword, she's so powerful she doesn't NEED a sword. Its just that's the only way these writers know how to depict awesome power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 06:07 PM (Ivdso)

430 So she's very feminine. Tolkien's inspiration for her was his wife, who danced in the woods for him while he was on leave during WW I. He never forgot it.

Is it dusty in here?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Luthien sounds a lot like Bombadil's Goldberry.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 21, 2022 06:07 PM (M9XmQ)

431 I've read the first two, and the third sits on a shelf. I've concluded that I like the idea of C.S. Lewis more than C.S. Lewis.
_______________

I know what you mean about the first 2, but the 3rd is very different, with the setting on earth with its more relatable demons. You can find parallels with what's going on today, where it seems like the demons are behind organizations like WEF or even your local hospital which cuts up the organs of our children for fun and profit. YMMV but I enjoyed it

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 21, 2022 06:07 PM (fs1hN)

432 In an Amazon or HBO series, she'd defeat Morgoth (or whoever) by arousing him with a stirring rendition of WAP.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 21, 2022 06:02 PM (ppBhU)

No, she'd use a huge two handed sword no man could lift and use it with one hand. Because powerful women have to act like men, because that is the only route to power in Woke World.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 06:08 PM (eoQWY)

433 Nood. Commie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 21, 2022 06:08 PM (dNqv+)

434 Dammit, meant to reply to:
I haven't seen the new Dune yet, but I think overall people's standards for what is a great movie have diminished significantly over time. These days if its not an obnoxious preachy movie with gigantic plot holes that spits on you, its a good movie.

Thirty years ago that just described something that wouldn't get canceled in production.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 05:47 PM (Ivdso)

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at September 21, 2022 06:08 PM (SEa82)

435 What was the film Pidgeon did with Greer Garson? I saw it on YooToob a year or two ago, and now can't recall the title.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022
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Mrs. Miniver, very popular wartime film in the UK.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022


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*That's* it. I think like HGWMV, it's also based on a novel.

Greer Garson was a lovely creature -- kind of a Gates MacFadden of her day.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 06:08 PM (c6xtn)

436 If nothing else we learn that the bulletin board was invented in Middle Earth.

Posted by: TB at September 21, 2022 06:08 PM (Ur3df)

437 For one big gaping hole in James's lawsuit - the main charge is Fraud, but it never names who was defrauded. Not the State. Not any government agency. (that would have been a crime, obviously) Not any investors. How can there be fraud when no one was defrauded?

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 06:09 PM (trdmm)

438 nood bail for MAGA kid murderer

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 21, 2022 06:09 PM (yikp0)

439 And the Valar destroy about a third of Middle Earth in doing even that. As in under the ocean, leaving the coastline of Middle Earth hundreds of miles to the east from where it had been in the first age.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 21, 2022 06:01 PM (eoQWY)
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There are points where Tolkien's prose sings and the images he conjures up are simply incredible. One of my favorites is the Battle of Unnumbered Tears. The Good Guys have lost, and everything is wrecked, but still they fight on.

Glaurung, Father of Dragons is ranged against the Dwarves, and they form a ring around him, and hammer him with great axes. The Dwarves are wearing steel masks and are used to the flame of the blast furnaces, so he's not able to burn them away, so he strikes at their king, and crawls over his corpse.

But the king isn't dead yet! He drives a well-forged knife into the belly of the beast, who leaves the field and takes his brood with him. Then the rest of the dwarves pick up the body of their king, close ranks and just leave the battlefield. And the orcs leave them alone.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 06:09 PM (llXky)

440 But it won't make it to court before the midterms, so Mission Accomplished as far as James is concerned.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (trdmm)

The lawsuit sounds so incredibly desperate that the only explanation is the idiot DA is getting a TON of pressure from the Clintons and other dems to get something on file against Trump --STAT!
Posted by: LASue at September 21, 2022 06:03 PM (Ed8Zd)

Yup, she made a campaign promise to sue Trump and his Kids LAST election, and... oh... Looky! She's up for reelection in a few weeks.... timing is such a Co Ink Ki Dink!

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 21, 2022 06:10 PM (oHd/0)

441 and Elrond, who was born near the end of the war.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 21, 2022 05:54 PM (llXky)



Elrond actually fought in The War of Wrath when the Valar defeated Morgoth, and in the Rings of Prime they have Guyladriel telling him that he 'hasn't seen what she has seen'.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 06:10 PM (yQpMk)

442 How can there be fraud when no one was defrauded?
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So, no standing?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 21, 2022 06:10 PM (fs1hN)

443 Elrond actually fought in The War of Wrath when the Valar defeated Morgoth, and in the Rings of Prime they have Guyladriel telling him that he 'hasn't seen what she has seen'.
_____

Well, Elrond hasn't been to the women's restroom, yet, has he?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 21, 2022 06:11 PM (fs1hN)

444 Those 10 commandments on the feminist hero's journey describe so many modern female characters, from Rey on down. And they're awful as a result.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 21, 2022 06:11 PM (Ivdso)

445 I am in the minority, both here and in my family, in that II abolutely loathed Jackson's LoTR movies. I nearly walked out of the theater when we saw Fellowship. I powered through the other two on DVD to see if I would like them any better.

Nope.

So, not seeing Rangz of Power is a no-brainer for me.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at September 21, 2022 06:11 PM (xPJvm)

446 LAST!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at September 21, 2022 06:13 PM (xPJvm)

447 364
What was the film Pidgeon did with Greer Garson? I saw it on YooToob a year or two ago, and now can't recall the title.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 21, 2022 05:55 PM (c6xtn)
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http://www.imdb.com is your friend.

Posted by: Ciampino at September 21, 2022 06:19 PM (qfLjt)

448 'Hail Gurthang! No lord or loyalty dost thou know, save the hand that wieldeth thee. From no blood wilt thou shrink. Wilt thou therefore take Túrin Turambar, wilt thou slay me swiftly ?' And from the blade rang a cold voice in answer: 'Yea, I will drink thy blood gladly, that so I may forget the blood of Beleg my master, and the blood of Brandir slain unjustly. I will slay thee swiftly.' Then Túrin set the hilt upon the ground, and cast himself upon the point of Gurthang, and the black blade took his life.
—Quenta Silmarillion, "Of Túrin Turambar"

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 21, 2022 06:20 PM (yQpMk)

449 Seen on the back of a tanker truck:
'Yesterday's Meals On Wheels'

Posted by: Ciampino at September 21, 2022 06:23 PM (qfLjt)

450 334 Elrond actually fought in The War of Wrath when the Valar defeated Morgoth, and in the Rings of Prime they have Guyladriel telling him that he 'hasn't seen what she has seen'.
_____

Well, Elrond hasn't been to the women's restroom, yet, has he?


there you go, assuming elrond's gender, h8r.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 21, 2022 06:27 PM (v3pYe)

451 Posted by: Jinx the Cat at September 21, 2022 06:04 PM (HRpcd)

That's interesting; I'm glad you mentioned it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 21, 2022 06:41 PM (vH/6k)

452 So, Ace, is French your new whipping boy, or can we expect to see you beating up on Allahpundit some more??

Posted by: thedeti at September 21, 2022 06:55 PM (C7e3k)

453 Sorry. Not Allahpundit.... Nick Catoggio....

Posted by: thedeti at September 21, 2022 06:56 PM (C7e3k)

454 Who cares. I'm so apathetic about those shows. Don't care I have printed Lords of the ring books and the Unfinished tales. I have the Hobbit ebook
They're enough for now.

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