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Barbie and G.I. Joe: your models of femininity and masculinity

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Gay vs. Transgender and Non-Binary

Did you expect two years ago that this year gay men would be leading the charge in the UK against queer/transgender propaganda?

The photo above is from Andrew Doyle, the brains behind Titania McGrath.

Gender identity ideology is rooted in deeply conservative stereotypes of male and female behaviour.

This is why it is so damaging to gender non-conforming kids, most of whom turn out to be gay.

Here's an image from Mermaids rating gender on a spectrum from Barbie to G.I. Joe...

"Mermaids" is a prominent "Transgender charity" in the UK which is treated as an authority. It is currently fighting alongside other organizations, such as "Stonewall" to keep an LGB organization from being granted charity status.

Concerning the Mermaids chart at the top of the post:

This is peak masculinity, guys! Do you measure up?

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There has been a lot of angst over the years concerning girls trying to conform to the body image of Barbie . . .

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Say! What about Ken? Remember, Mattel may get woke, go broke with a new pregnant Ken doll! There is even a video!

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Pregnant Ken is not a typical gay man. Andrew Doyle has said this about the soon-to-be-closed Tavistock clinic in England: "Staff at the Tavistock used to joke that soon 'there would be no gay people left'. " He has written a book on How to take on the new puritans (The Woke). He is making some interesting points during his publicity campaign. Stonewall becoming anti-gay?

This is droll:

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Another gay man, David Thompson, piles on:

You see, our aspiring role model has produced a book combining hardcore self-involvement with dysmorphic cartoon pornography, with the results being made available to schoolchildren, including 11-year-olds. As one might imagine, there have been some, shall we say, reservations regarding whether a book of this kind should be circulated among children without their parents' knowledge or consent. Readers may recall scenes in which parents attempted to read aloud passages from the book among fellow adults at school board meetings, typically resulting in reprimands, the shutting off of microphones, and threats of physical removal. Apparently, "vagina slime," fellatio and "strap-on hotness" are inappropriate topics for adult discussion, even as an attempt to specify a problem, but totally fine for kids. Who apparently need to know about the joys of masturbating while driving.

Ms Kobabe tells us that parents' concerns about the book being distributed among children are merely, "a very organised effort to erase trans and queer and nonbinary voices from the public sphere." A wickedness indulged in only by those "looking for books to complain about." This, we're informed, is part of "a very dangerous and upsetting effort to make it harder for trans people and nonbinary and queer people to live." And not, as seems more likely, a reluctance among parents to have their 11-year-olds exposed to somewhat outre; pornographic material.

Evidently inspired by both the gushing of leftist librarians and the disapproval of countless parents, Ms Kobabe is close to finishing a second book on much the same theme, one aimed at "younger readers," i.e., middle-schoolers.

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Queer vs. Everybody Else

Non-Binary:

"We find ourselves in terrifying times in which young people are being affirmed into lying to medical professionals to receive surgery to try to turn them into the image of a word that we don't even understand the meaning of."

"What Is Non-Binary?"

One of the most common questions that I get asked in interviews is to explain the term 'non-binary'.

This has become a much more commonly used identity label within our society over recent years. We have seen numerous celebrities 'come out' as 'non-binary' and introduce their new 'they/them' pronouns. We have witnessed debates in Westminster as to the potential legal recognition of 'non-binary' as an additional gender. Just today, it was announced that the next London Marathon will allow non-elite competitors the option to sign up as 'non-binary'.

And so I decided to 'educate myself' by purchasing a book entitled 'The Book of Non-Binary Joy' by Ben Pechey. Surely, there cannot be a better book to give me a holistic and clear understanding of exactly what this term means and the practical implications for those individuals who identify as 'non-binary'?

My desire and hope for nuanced expertise and clear understanding were shot down almost immediately when I read these words from Pechey:

"I failed my biology A levels systematically, resat every single exam and scraped a D, so my knowledge of human biology is shaky at best".

Okay, so we cannot discuss biology then.

. . . In order to create new law that is well-crafted, intelligible and easy to enforce, we require clarity, above all else. Without such clarity, our laws are open to confusion and even abuse.

Again, I turned to Pechey's book, in the hope that it might shed some light and help to formulate a coherent definition of 'non-binary' for these purposes.

It did not.

Pechey states:

"To define non-binary beyond a personal level is to try to catch smoke with one's bare hands: impossible"

Three bits of advice for outsiders taken from the following paragraphs, from this magnificent book on "Non-Binary Joy":

"To try and hem us in with a set of rules and guidelines is to refute the very existence of non-binary. In trying to understand us you have erased us".

"This message goes out to cisgender people. Please direct your overly personal questions to your chosen internet browser. Non-binary people are not educators. We're people, and we might just like to be left alone".

"If you are cisgender and offended by anything I have said, please don't hesitate to email someone who has time to waste and that is not me".

Alrighty then. Maybe we're gonna have to turn to academic queer theorists instead of practitioners of "non-binary joy". More a little later.

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The piece by James Esses continues on to describe regressive stereotypes promoted by this ideology, and the implications for our culture and for children. Including:

I do not believe that the way to treat gender dysphoria is with irreversible surgery. Yet, I have always said that at least in relation to those individuals who seek sex-reassignment surgery to become 'the other sex', that the doctors have a template and a common understanding of what 'the other sex' looks like.

However, what exactly does a 'non-binary' look like? What is it meant to look like? In truth, we have no idea because it is a recently created concept that cannot be defined or properly understood. As Pechey said, it's "like trying to catch smoke with bare hands". Why are surgeons performing double mastectomies on 'non-binary' people? How do we know 'non-binary' people do not have breasts?

Many prominent 'LGBT+' organisations even appear to condone the misleading of doctors in order to avail of such surgery. In one interview with Pink News, a former patient stated:

"At some clinics, non-binary people like me might have to pretend to be trans to be considered for top surgery".

There are additional important considerations in the full piece.

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James Lindsay's New Discourses provides some valuable insight into why practitioners of "binary joy" seem unable to define "non-binary", in the "Translations from the Wokish" entry on Queer Theory. See if the quotes from Non-Binary Joy don't fit right in:

. . .queer Theory is positively phobic of binaries of any sort, particularly those having to do with sex, gender, and sexuality. Thus, being (gender) non-conforming, non-binary, or queer in some way intrinsically becomes a site of activism that deconstructs the binaries we expect and thus creates liberation and change. Because of the misunderstanding of Derrida's deconstruction at the sources of queer Theory, and the pessimism of the Theorists involved in it, this often takes ironic and obnoxious forms and is altogether unserious -- in practice a kind of strategic essentialism that's intentionally a bit too aware of its own absurdity (see also, pastiche and politics of parody).

This means that for queer Theory, not only is activism achieved by thinking about different "potentialities" and attempting to perform them, i.e., queering something, it is also achieved simply by being queer. This shouldn't be mistaken for being LGBT because being queer cannot accept normalcy or stability even within those categories. In fact, there should be no categories at all other than "queer" (which is to say woke or critically conscious under the doctrines of queer Theory) and "not-yet-queer" (thus, bad).

Thus, many people mistakenly understand queer Theory as somehow relevant to LGBT civil rights and acceptance--including most queer Theorists--but this is not at all the case. Queer Theory has nothing positive to say about lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender rights except to the degree that those can be made useful for breaking societal norms, and it has no interest in lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender acceptance at all, as that would make them fall within the reach of acceptable societal norms (i.e., normal) and thus a necessary location for disruptive and subversive queer activism. That is, while it seems because of its name that queer Theory is activism on behalf of LGBT rights, it is actually not; it is actually about destroying normalcy in all its forms, including for LGBT people, most of whom don't like or want this. Queer Theory elevates only one identity as authentic: the queer identity, which ceases to be queer the moment it is accepted or even able to be categorized.

This has the effect of making queer Theory self-defeating and simultaneously self-concentrating in a peculiar way. Because queer Theory nominally advances LGBTQ rights but actually only advances queerness, as queer Theory succeeds in its stated mission, it increases the need for itself, as normalized LGBT and Q issues become necessary sites for queering and other applications of queer Theory to subvert that normalization. This has the peculiar result of queer Theory's success in its apparent mission--LGBT(Q) rights--further marginalizing its true charge--a disruptive queer identity. That queer Theory lies to itself in this way is likely to be considered a feature, and a useful one at that, because the less sense something makes and more paradoxical it is, the more properly queer it is (making sense is, after all, normative).

This is probably not what you want for your kids.

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History: TERF Wars

Back in 2015, Ace wrote Begun, The Vagina Wars Have. He quoted Jim Goad at Taki's, concerning conflicts which, at the time, seemed extraordinarily dumb:

As a connoisseur of leftist cannibalism, I enjoy watching the internecine squabbling of groups competing for the top spot on the hierarchy of oppression as if they were puppies stepping on one another's necks straining for a tug on the warm teat of sympathy.

Male-to-female transsexuals--who, as luck would have it, have always constituted the vast majority of those who feel they were born wearing the wrong genital costumery -- have recently emerged as perhaps the most rabidly militant of all identity groups strung along the vast fractured progressive rainbow. In their manic quest to force the world into parroting the obvious lie that they are women, they have stumbled upon an unexpected foe -- radical feminists who have real, God-given vaginas.

This is a struggle -- laden with a hilarious level of acrimony -- between men who insist they're women and women who insist that the most crucial part of being a woman involves popping out of your mother's vagina with a vagina of your own. The latter group is disparagingly referred to as TERFs -- Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists --- due to the fact that they feel male-to-female trannies are trying to party-crash their struggle against historical oppression. The TERFs argue that for men to pretend they're women is insulting to real women. To them, it is a genital form of blackface. . .

One especially amusing bone of contention between the two groups of shaggy yipping poodles regards the vaginal authenticity of male-to-female transsexuals. Old-school feminist Germaine Greer recently asserted that trannies aren't women because they don't realize what it's like "to have a big, hairy, smelly vagina."

Ace suggested that this argument was not a sign of superior female intellect. And it was readily answered. A pro-Trans feminist argued that "manmade vaginas are actually smellier than those of natural-born females."

There was another observation by Jim Goad back in 2015 that I think holds up well today:

Robert Anton Wilson famously said, " It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea. " Whereas those who would now be defamed as TERFs were on the far bloody cutting edge of leftist politics a generation ago, they now find themselves outdated or, as the kids like to say, " irrelevant." Without having changed a single idea, they find themselves labeled not as bold freedom warriors fighting the good fight against oppression but as hateful reactionaries who stand in the way of true progress.

It is also interesting that since that piece was written, adolescent girls have overtaken boys as the leading transitioners to transgender status. Don't know how long this will last with the new popularity of the "non-binary" label, plus other labels that activists may devise.

The TERF wars cover more TERF now

Since the piece above was written, Trans activists have won a lot of territory, pushing feminism and most other types of grievance studies (except race) into the background at most universities. They have carried out a somewhat successful, though inane, war against J.K. Rowling, labeling her as a monstrous TERF.

And the smelly vagina issue has gone mainstream today! Yay for Critical Social Justice! The tweeter below is just reporting. Don't blame her. It's the featured article that has the real poop.

Excerpt:

But before we get to the cultural impact and science of unique genital scents, read on to learn about the sad story that sparked a poovolution in a Canadian public school.

"As I was transitioning, I found it triggering that my cisgender female friends didn't smell like poo," the top of the fateful note read. . .

I can hardly wait for them to start teaching little grade school kids about this as part of "affirmative care" for little boys who like long hair. Little kids like to talk about poo. It's a natural! Lesson plan: "Everyone remember smell your poo. That is what some of your trans friends will smell like someday! Isn't that exciting??"

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Focus: Trans Vs. Lesbians

Some Alinsky tactics going on here. Transgenders tried to shame men into dating transgender women for a while. That effort will probably continue with sporadic media attention. Now they are focusing hard on lesbians, who are vilified as transphobic if they don't want to have sex with a "transwoman" who still has a penis. Lesbians are being singled out as the worst of the TERFS:

Sept. 4:

A sign from this weekend's Dresden Pride ...

This kind of sexually aggressive nonsense is precisely why so many gay men and lesbians now reject Pride. It no longer stands for them.

If you think gender ideologues are on "the right side of history", you haven't read much history.

Comment:

The officer for queer matters (Queerbeauftragter) of the German government, Sven Lehmann, praised the Dresden Pride as "peaceful and colourful".

Not a single word about this incident. He should have condemned it.

The Officer for Queer Matters . . . . Has Biden appointed a Queerbeauftragter yet?

Remember, all opponents of trans ideology are terrorists!

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It's the weekend

Steven Hayward has posted The Week in Pictures: Martha's Vineyard Agonistes Edition.

The spectacle of the left's reaction to a mere 50 "migrants" turning up in Martha's Vineyard has to be the most satisfying since Nixon's Christmas bombing of Hanoi in 1972. Just when you think liberal hypocrisy and virtue signaling can't get any more obvious, two airplanes and a few buses show how easy it is to find more depths to it. I believe this is what some notable person called "winning," and I'm not tired of it yet. I think I'll do my part and send a relief package of Mike Lindell's pillows up to the beleaguered residents of MV.

Lots of good things there.

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But Hayward missed a few:

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Music

Some gender stereotyping here in America from West Side Story, 2021 version. Where are the pink and blue hair folks?

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More gender stereotyping in Tonight, 2021 version. Vocal coach reacts. Are you a fan, too?

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, Thread Before the Gardening Thread, September 10

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:19 AM




Comments

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1 Fist!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 17, 2022 11:24 AM (yikp0)

2 Sadly, I believe every possible joke has already been made about the Martha's Vineyard illegal aliens at this point.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2022 11:24 AM (Qzn2/)

3 Well, oddly enough, that's all from me this morning.

I'll nood now.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 17, 2022 11:24 AM (yikp0)

4 So gays and trannies are at war over who gets top billing on the Pride flag?

More, please.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2022 11:26 AM (Qzn2/)

5 Arrest anyone who wants to talk about this stuff to little kids.

If you can't do it to strangers kids at the grocery store, you can't do it. That's how this stops.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at September 17, 2022 11:26 AM (vs65b)

6 Excellent post and commentary, KT.

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 17, 2022 11:27 AM (4I/2K)

7
Just got home

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 17, 2022 11:28 AM (ngs4T)

8 The left eventually eats itself. This tranny vs ghey fight is delish!

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 17, 2022 11:29 AM (3vQN0)

9 I'm bach...

Drone footage of MV -- 46 seconds]

https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/
1570943637365870592

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 17, 2022 11:29 AM (yikp0)

10 KT brings it.

Posted by: Eromero at September 17, 2022 11:30 AM (gktX6)

11 "that hole shares a microbiome with the colon"

No, it's not sharing anything. The colon is all there is. You crested a wound to access it separately.

And it's disgusting to know that these people literally smell like feces all the time. That's bound to help their body image.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at September 17, 2022 11:30 AM (vs65b)

12 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 17, 2022 11:31 AM (T4tVD)

13 Hiya K.T. !

Posted by: JT at September 17, 2022 11:32 AM (T4tVD)

14 Pulled from my moron wisdom file "The set containing the symbols 'lgbtq...' is infinite." Don't know who to give credit to but it's spot on. Screw the alphabet mafia. They will wish they were more GI Joe and less Barbie when this stuff gets real

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 17, 2022 11:32 AM (wjm4F)

15 I wonder why the men's magazines don't want men to smell their poop in preparation for having sex with trans women?

Posted by: KT at September 17, 2022 11:32 AM (rrtZS)

16 KT brings it.
Posted by: Eromero at September 17, 2022 11:30 AM (gktX6)

I can't. Never had it.

Posted by: Ken Doll at September 17, 2022 11:33 AM (4I/2K)

17 So gays and trannies are at war over who gets top billing on the Pride flag?

More, please.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2022 11:26 AM (Qzn2/)

I'm not going to read all this. It already takes up way more of my mental energy than it should.

But yeah, gay people look around at the ghouls who want to chop off johnsons and/or pump hormones in kids, and rightfully wonder if the goal isn't to exterminate them.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 11:34 AM (i3yPZ)

18 Hiya, JT!

Posted by: KT at September 17, 2022 11:34 AM (rrtZS)

19 And it's disgusting to know that these people literally smell like feces all the time. That's bound to help their body image.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at September 17, 2022 11:30 AM (vs65b)

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The whole idea is disgusting. If it was only being chosen by adults, I'd say let 'em stink.

But this shit existence (literally) is being foisted on defenseless, confused kids as some kind of panacea for their unhappiness. The people responsible (especially the Mengeles in the medical profession) should burn in hell.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2022 11:34 AM (Qzn2/)

20 It's slowly becoming mainstream knowledge that coprophilia is a major component of homosexuality.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at September 17, 2022 11:35 AM (vs65b)

21 Hiya, JT!
Posted by: KT

Posted by: JT at September 17, 2022 11:35 AM (T4tVD)

22 Someone on the last thread said the site is closing and reloading continuously on their phone. Same here and I am on an iPhone with Safari. The only quasi fix for it I have found is to immediately click on the comment tab asap after the main body of the article posts. Then it stays loaded along with the comments. Otherwise it reloads continuously with a message saying the site has an error. Guessing King Harv or another ad has a bug in them.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 17, 2022 11:35 AM (b7K/r)

23 Shorter definition of "non-binary": bugfuck nuts.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2022 11:36 AM (Bn7Rp)

24 Barbie and Ken movie.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wPspIm6gCy4

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 17, 2022 11:37 AM (FVME7)

25 Posted by: Jen the original at September 17, 2022 11:35 AM (b7K/r)

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I have a similar issue in Chrome. The workaround I found is to hold my finger on the Comments link and click Open New Tab when the menu pops up. Then I immediately close the original tab as otherwise it continues to try to load.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2022 11:38 AM (Qzn2/)

26 And it's disgusting to know that these people literally smell like feces all the time. That's bound to help their body image.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at September 17, 2022 11:30 AM (vs65b)

Yeah, chopping off parts, and otherwise mutilating genitalia have the effect of causing sex to be either impossible or nearly impossible to enjoy.

Who knew.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 11:38 AM (i3yPZ)

27 Guessing King Harv or another ad has a bug in them.
Posted by: Jen the original

Bob at the NSA left the intern in charge this morning

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 17, 2022 11:39 AM (wjm4F)

28 Batshit crazy.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 11:40 AM (6/K6X)

29 More mean tweets.

Maria Shriver@mariashriver
Ron DeSantis, Greg Abbott. I’ve heard people say they like these guys because they are tough and they don’t care about political correctness.
These men are bullies. These men are in the stunt business. This is not leadership
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Catturd@catturd2
Maria suddenly cares when illegals come to her neighborhood
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Christina Pushaw@ChristinaPushaw
Her ex husband had a child with one so it’s a sore subject for her

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 17, 2022 11:40 AM (FVME7)

30 https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/
1570943637365870592
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 17, 2022 11:29 AM (yikp0)

Nice gossan on the sea cliff early in the video. I wonder it's been prospected for gold or other metals?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2022 11:41 AM (Bn7Rp)

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Robert Anton Wilson famously said, " It only takes 20 years for a liberal to become a conservative without changing a single idea."

But some topics, especially harming children, are neither liberal or conservative. The so-called 'progressive' tiny sliver of the left is going to discover this sometime on the evening of November 8.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 11:41 AM (y3pKJ)

32 Yeah, chopping off parts, and otherwise mutilating genitalia have the effect of causing sex to be either impossible or nearly impossible to enjoy.

Who knew.

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Doing it to kids who haven't even taken biology courses to know what the parts do.

I can't imagine being a parent and knowing that I removed that part of my offspring's life before they even reached adulthood. It's worse than the Muslim clitorectomies.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at September 17, 2022 11:41 AM (vs65b)

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I have an obligation to be polite and gentlemanly but not to affirm or cater to people's delusions.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 17, 2022 11:42 AM (1Nxff)

34 I don't follow any LBQTG or whatever issue news, so I appreciate what KT has done here this morning. It's like the professor saying 'Today class, we disectt the human body.' Walk in, mentholatum in your mask, and get it done asap. Then go puke if you need to, and never deal with those details again.

Posted by: Eromero at September 17, 2022 11:43 AM (gktX6)

35 We boogied in the kitchen, we boogied in the hall,
I got some on my finger so I wiped it on the wall.

Reeling and Rocking 'till the break of dawn

Posted by: Chuck Berry at September 17, 2022 11:43 AM (4I/2K)

36 Joe is a DOLL. If he is the manifestation of "right wing" then we need more help than I could have ever imagined.

Posted by: Fisht at September 17, 2022 11:43 AM (ZRarh)

37 And it's disgusting to know that these people literally smell like feces all the time. That's bound to help their body image.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at September 17, 2022 11:30 AM (vs65b)

Are they told in advance that they will smell like feces?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 11:43 AM (eGTCV)

38 I guess I'm not on the spectrum...unless it's Barbie that has a dick and balls now.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:44 AM (ynpvh)

39 Otherwise it reloads continuously with a message saying the site has an error. Guessing King Harv or another ad has a bug in them.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 17, 2022 11:35 AM (b7K/r)

Apple products have a bug in them.

Does the browser let you block scripts? Try that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2022 11:44 AM (Bn7Rp)

40
Gender reassignment is the 21st century version of the lobotomy, whose inventor won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 17, 2022 11:44 AM (1Nxff)

41 Maia...Is you Cockney?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

42 273 nood but mainly tranny stuff although it is an open thread still too.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 17, 2022 11:25 AM (yikp0)

LOL; "nood but ...."

Posted by: m at September 17, 2022 11:45 AM (0ixKl)

43 Are they told in advance that they will smell like feces?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 11:43 AM (eGTCV)

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SMELLIST!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2022 11:45 AM (Qzn2/)

44 Joe is a DOLL. If he is the manifestation of "right wing" then we need more help than I could have ever imagined.
Posted by: Fisht at September 17, 2022 11:43 AM (ZRarh)

Please, I'm an Action Figure.

Posted by: Ken at September 17, 2022 11:46 AM (4I/2K)

45 Yeah, chopping off parts, and otherwise mutilating genitalia have the effect of causing sex to be either impossible or nearly impossible to enjoy.

Who knew.
Posted by: BurtTC

Read something yesterday where a surgeon who performs transitioning surgery readily admitted that her patients are not capable of experiencing an orgasm . They don't include that in the small print. This evil bastard didn't seem to consider that an issue

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 17, 2022 11:46 AM (wjm4F)

46 These people are insane and should be separated from society and their children.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 17, 2022 11:46 AM (4J8aT)

47 Are they told in advance that they will smell like feces?

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I'm sure it's something in the fine print, but nothing specific. Definitely nothing told outright, because no one would choose to constantly smell like feces.

Well, very few people. There are certainly some who would, and probably would seek out a surgery to accomplish it.

And the idea that doctors would say "okay" is hard to believe.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at September 17, 2022 11:46 AM (vs65b)

48 The idea that some mentally disturbed nobody is going to cause me to revise the syntax I've used my entire life is hilarious.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2022 11:47 AM (Qzn2/)

49 "No, it's not sharing anything. The colon is all there is. You crested a wound to access it separately."

not sure I really want to know, but how do they stop the poop from coming out the fake vagina (wound), instead of the normal route? Is it really just anal sex, but via the separate hole/wound?

Posted by: illiniwek at September 17, 2022 11:48 AM (Cus5s)

50 I can't imagine being a parent and knowing that I removed that part of my offspring's life before they even reached adulthood. It's worse than the Muslim clitorectomies.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at September 17, 2022 11:41 AM (vs65b)

If a child "transitions" by way of surgery, and presents as the opposite sex, he or she is guilty of murder, for killing the parents' natural son or daughter.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 17, 2022 11:48 AM (Bn7Rp)

51 I find the whole gender thing stupid; It's better defined by sexual orientation. You do have a spectrum of ATTRACTION, and that can CHANGE with time for some but can be very fixed in others. You'll always have some pervos out there that'll try to screw a dog or a tree.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:48 AM (ynpvh)

52 That reminds me. Name field test

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 11:48 AM (vs65b)

53 "The Book of Non-Binary Joy"

Yes, indeed. There's no group more joyful than "non-binary" people.

You can tell by the suicide rate.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 17, 2022 11:49 AM (bW8dp)

54 44 Joe is a DOLL. If he is the manifestation of "right wing" then we need more help than I could have ever imagined.
Posted by: Fisht at September 17, 2022 11:43 AM (ZRarh)

Please, I'm an Action Figure.

Posted by: Ken at September 17, 2022 11:46 AM (4I/2K)

Not if you're missing the proper junk you're not.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:49 AM (ynpvh)

55 Surgeons who perform transition surgery are guilty of a crime against humanity. They literally hate humanity.

The mentally ill were once locked away in Bedlam. Now they're sexually mutilated.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 11:49 AM (eGTCV)

56 These people all need shot or locked away from polite society.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 11:50 AM (6/K6X)

57 not sure I really want to know, but how do they stop the poop from coming out the fake vagina (wound), instead of the normal route? Is it really just anal sex, but via the separate hole/wound?

*

By reading the pro-surgery stuff linked above, it's exactly that. You can't "share a biome" with your colon. It's your colon.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 11:51 AM (vs65b)

58 9 I'm bach...

Drone footage of MV -- 46 seconds]

https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/
1570943637365870592
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 17, 2022 11:29 AM (yikp0)

Really nice!
Here's a nitter.net link in tinyurl:

https://tinyurl.com/bde3hmkd

Posted by: m at September 17, 2022 11:51 AM (0ixKl)

59 I suppose Jack The Ripper could now find work as a transition surgeon.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 11:51 AM (eGTCV)

60 Surgeons who perform transition surgery are guilty of a crime against humanity. They literally hate humanity.

The mentally ill were once locked away in Bedlam. Now they're sexually mutilated.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 11:49 AM


I prefer to think of it as these surgeons are removing defective material from the gene pool.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at September 17, 2022 11:52 AM (bVYXr)

61 There are going to be a lot of trannies who are going to be wrecked

Posted by: Skip at September 17, 2022 11:53 AM (k8B25)

62 I wonder what the long term suicide rate will be among transition surgeons.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 11:53 AM (eGTCV)

63 57 not sure I really want to know, but how do they stop the poop from coming out the fake vagina (wound), instead of the normal route? Is it really just anal sex, but via the separate hole/wound?

*

By reading the pro-surgery stuff linked above, it's exactly that. You can't "share a biome" with your colon. It's your colon.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 11:51 AM (vs65b)

Bifurcated colon. Now enjoy anal sex two unique ways!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:53 AM (ynpvh)

64 Gender reassignment is the 21st century version of the lobotomy, whose inventor won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for it.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 17, 2022 11:44 AM (1Nxff)

Exactly. In fact, lobotomies for people who had same sex experiences was not at ALL uncommon in the "bad old days." You know, when being gay WAS considered a mental illness.

The more things change.....

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 11:53 AM (i3yPZ)

65 I'm out because it's too disgusting.

Posted by: m at September 17, 2022 11:54 AM (0ixKl)

66 This thread is going into biology way more than I want to know

Posted by: Skip at September 17, 2022 11:54 AM (k8B25)

67 65 I'm out because it's too disgusting.

Posted by: m at September 17, 2022 11:54 AM (0ixKl)

Does put a damper on breakfast...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:54 AM (ynpvh)

68 I suppose Jack The Ripper could now find work as a transition surgeon.

*

I don't think you're too far off, and I've thought that for a long time regarding abortion doctors.

IIRC most serial killers and really twisted folks are very intelligent, driven, and organized. Becoming a doctor wouldn't be much a problem if the stars aligned. And the natural tendencies could come out legally.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 11:54 AM (zrInF)

69 66 This thread is going into biology way more than I want to know

Posted by: Skip at September 17, 2022 11:54 AM (k8B25)

It that a way of saying you would prefer math?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:55 AM (ynpvh)

70 68 I suppose Jack The Ripper could now find work as a transition surgeon.

*

I don't think you're too far off, and I've thought that for a long time regarding abortion doctors.

IIRC most serial killers and really twisted folks are very intelligent, driven, and organized. Becoming a doctor wouldn't be much a problem if the stars aligned. And the natural tendencies could come out legally.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 11:54 AM (zrInF)

Hey, be euthanized in Canada.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:55 AM (ynpvh)

71
I'm out because it's too disgusting.

Posted by: m at September 17, 2022 11:54 AM


Party pooper!

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 11:56 AM (y3pKJ)

72 Is it really just anal sex, but via the separate hole/wound?

**

The more you think about this, holy crap.

Imagine being sexually aroused by wanting to have anal sex with someone, but to only do it through a purposefully created wound in another human.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 11:56 AM (zrInF)

73 Short term sub for my younger daughter in dog sitting my sister's dog Otis. The daughter is helping her best friend shop a wedding dress. Me and the dog, my age proportionately, are hanging in the backyard on a beautiful sunny warm day.
I win this round.

Posted by: From That Time at September 17, 2022 11:56 AM (Rb87X)

74 "To define non-binary beyond a personal level is to try to catch smoke with one's bare hands: impossible"

Except mathematically. Trinary, Octal, Decimal...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:57 AM (ynpvh)

75 Hey, be euthanized in Canada.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:55 AM (ynpvh)

That's why I'm careful about who I mention my low grade depression to.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 11:57 AM (eGTCV)

76 I don't know about the rest of you but I'm getting really tired of emails from the RNC purporting to be from Donald Trump. I will donate directly to Trump. The RNC will never see a penny.

Posted by: creeper at September 17, 2022 11:58 AM (cTCuP)

77 48 The idea that some mentally disturbed nobody is going to cause me to revise the syntax I've used my entire life is hilarious.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2022 11:47 AM (Qzn2/)

If they want to have a vocabulary discussion, they're going to learn some new words, too.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 17, 2022 11:58 AM (cupoy)

78 Whenever I catch a whiff of a nice, ripe Genital, I release the safety on my Browning.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 17, 2022 11:59 AM (R/m4+)

79 72 Is it really just anal sex, but via the separate hole/wound?

**

The more you think about this, holy crap.

Imagine being sexually aroused by wanting to have anal sex with someone, but to only do it through a purposefully created wound in another human.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 11:56 AM (zrInF)

I would trust the navel hole on a fat woman in the mud more. There's an old joke punchline in there.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:59 AM (ynpvh)

80 I find the whole gender thing stupid; It's better defined by sexual orientation. You do have a spectrum of ATTRACTION, and that can CHANGE with time for some but can be very fixed in others. You'll always have some pervos out there that'll try to screw a dog or a tree.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:48 AM (ynpvh)

What's hilarious is when you are given insight from those who DO participate in sexual "fluidity," they will tell you there are married men who wear their wife's underwear, and/or go for those trannies. Or gay escorts.

It's always been part of the "spectrum." Always. And yet now what we're telling kids is you have to choose.

Why? On God's green earth, why? Why are you mutilating them and, and permanently eliminating all those future choices? I thought "pro-choice" was a good thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 11:59 AM (i3yPZ)

81 Good heavens, KT. I wore the scroll button out on this one.

Posted by: creeper at September 17, 2022 11:59 AM (cTCuP)

82 75 Hey, be euthanized in Canada.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:55 AM (ynpvh)

That's why I'm careful about who I mention my low grade depression to.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 11:57 AM (eGTCV)

Lose you gun rights in California

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 11:59 AM (ynpvh)

83 So yeah, smells like dead people.

Posted by: Eromero at September 17, 2022 12:00 PM (gktX6)

84 But remember, "fluidity" is a one way street. Don't you dare encourage a kid to be straight.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:00 PM (zrInF)

85 It's a shitty day here. Think I will stay with Grit TV and do some chores.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 12:01 PM (6/K6X)

86 Are there any men around anymore who simply have a kink about dressing up in women's clothing?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 12:01 PM (eGTCV)

87 When I was in kollidge back in the '70's there was a scientific name for this transgender phenomenon. I think the original Latin was Copulatum des Crania... colloquially translated as Fucked in the Head.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 17, 2022 12:02 PM (iHAQn)

88 Good morning all

Well written, well organized piece KT. Thanks.

I find it sad that the subject matter is a mainstream topic of conversation in today's world.

Queer theory objective is to break down society...and it is.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 17, 2022 12:02 PM (K0jo2)

89 Should clarify, weather.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 12:02 PM (6/K6X)

90 I release the safety on my Browning.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 17, 2022 11:59 AM (R/m4+)

That's what HE said!

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 12:03 PM (i3yPZ)

91 These people all need shot

Part of our sides issue is we still think we need to follow the Marquis of Queensberry rule book. I was thinking more along the lines of Mr. Poe's pit and the pendulum with their eyelids superglued open and Yoko's greatest hits playing at max volume.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 17, 2022 12:03 PM (wjm4F)

92 87 When I was in kollidge back in the '70's there was a scientific name for this transgender phenomenon. I think the original Latin was Copulatum des Crania... colloquially translated as Fucked in the Head.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 17, 2022 12:02 PM (iHAQn)

I once read that the Romans had all sorts of slang term. For instance, they would say testa (shell/pot) for head. So I guess there were pot heads back in the day in Rome...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:04 PM (ynpvh)

93 Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 17, 2022 12:03 PM (wjm4F)

that works, but more time consuming.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 12:04 PM (6/K6X)

94 86 Are there any men around anymore who simply have a kink about dressing up in women's clothing?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 12:01 PM (eGTCV)

Yes, plenty of kink out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:05 PM (ynpvh)

95 Oh Sarah, I would think your various orifices would be pretty sore by now.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:05 PM (ynpvh)

96 I once read that the Romans had all sorts of slang term. For instance, they would say testa (shell/pot) for head. So I guess there were pot heads back in the day in Rome...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:04 PM (ynpvh)

Speaking of Rome, there appear to be credible reports that societies that are in the process of imploding have a huge increase in sexual perversions, including transjenner stuff. Rome being a classical example.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 12:05 PM (i3yPZ)

97 Speaking of Rome, there appear to be credible reports that societies that are in the process of imploding have a huge increase in sexual perversions, including transjenner stuff. Rome being a classical example.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 12:05 PM (i3yPZ)



Wiemar Republic springs to mind as well.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 17, 2022 12:06 PM (iHAQn)

98 Test

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 17, 2022 12:08 PM (iHAQn)

99 I have a good friend, married to his gay partner for years, both politically very conservative, who says that the tyranny movement is going to destroy all of the civil rights gains he and those liked him worked so hard to achieve over the last 30 years or so.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2022 12:08 PM (eCiYT)

100 Where did everybody go? The local drag queen show?

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 17, 2022 12:08 PM (iHAQn)

101 From previous thread, probably after nood.
'We have the same value set': Biden smiles as he meets 'corrupt' South African president accused of stealing millions - and ignores questions from the press

https://mol.im/a/11218363

Posted by: Ciampino - so FJB admits he's corrupt at September 17, 2022 12:09 PM (qfLjt)

102 But Sarah, your views on this Trannie stuff?

Posted by: Skip at September 17, 2022 12:09 PM (k8B25)

103 'They worship the creature and not the Creator.'
- Paul, inspired

Posted by: Eromero at September 17, 2022 12:09 PM (gktX6)

104 I know of one girl since about the age of five wanted to be a boy. Insisted on answering to her chosen name. There was sexual abuse in her history. Mom had full custody. Spoke to her about it on one occasion when puberty blockers came up. I supported her decision to delay them. This was maybe six or seven years ago. Mom posted a Facebook update when "Jack" graduated highschool. From the lack of facial hair, I took some comfort that maybe mom succeeded on the PB issue.

Posted by: Joe Kidd at September 17, 2022 12:09 PM (RMN7W)

105 97 I once read that the Romans had all sorts of slang term. For instance, they would say testa (shell/pot) for head. So I guess there were pot heads back in the day in Rome...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:04 PM (ynpvh)

Speaking of Rome, there appear to be credible reports that societies that are in the process of imploding have a huge increase in sexual perversions, including transjenner stuff. Rome being a classical example.
Posted by: BurtTC



Some guy named Paul wrote about it a while back.
Romans 1:18-32

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 17, 2022 12:10 PM (2graF)

106 Our church is throwing a block party for the kids and adults in our church's neighborhood. I will fight back in this way; for now. Need to get off my phone and light a fire under my posterior

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 17, 2022 12:10 PM (wjm4F)

107 It's a shitty day here. Think I will stay with Grit TV and do some chores.
Posted by: Infidel at


Should clarify, weather.
Posted by: Infidel

Lol. Inside and out.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 17, 2022 12:11 PM (K0jo2)

108 Testa might have just meant jughead.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2022 12:11 PM (eCiYT)

109 I have a good friend, married to his gay partner for years, both politically very conservative, who says that the tyranny movement is going to destroy all of the civil rights gains he and those liked him worked so hard to achieve over the last 30 years or so.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2022 12:08 PM (eCiYT)



Same here. I was telling my wife just the other day that it would greatly behoove the decent ones in that community to "fix" this problem themselves, before the coming backlash fixes it for all of them.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 17, 2022 12:11 PM (iHAQn)

110 I think you can still find clips of Monty Python's Lumberjack Song online.
I'm surprised it hasn't been banned what with making fun of men who put on women's clothing and hang around in bars.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 12:11 PM (eGTCV)

111 I also know quite a few of what I now mentally categorize as "straight" , mostly conservative gay guys. They are strongly against this trans crap.

Posted by: From That Time at September 17, 2022 12:13 PM (Rb87X)

112 Oh good grief. Now I've given myself an earworm.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 12:13 PM (eGTCV)

113 I was always tolerant toward gays. My tolerance is now growing very thin. I'm starting to think that there was a good reason for them being in the closet.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 17, 2022 12:14 PM (iHAQn)

114
the tyranny movement is going to destroy all of the civil rights gains he and those liked him worked so hard to achieve over the last 30 years or so.

The hash tag #LGBnotT is a thing.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 12:14 PM (y3pKJ)

115 who says that the tyranny movement is going to destroy all of the civil rights gains he and those liked him worked so hard to achieve over the last 30 years or so.

*

Sucker. I feel bad that he got snookered, but I'm rootin for the other tooter rooters to destroy those gains.

All you had to do was pursue and accept equality, which you had. But no, the hyphen in front of American was too important.

If "gay" is important to you, if the rainbow flag is important to you, you're in a sex cult and dangerous to children.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:14 PM (vs65b)

116 My willie is more girthy than an entire GI Joe doll. Maybe not the pregnant GI Joe doll though. Depends on what stage.

Posted by: fd at September 17, 2022 12:15 PM (uH1zk)

117 Speaking of Rome, there appear to be credible reports that societies that are in the process of imploding have a huge increase in sexual perversions, including transjenner stuff. Rome being a classical example.

Or in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, it wasn't "in the process of imploding" it experienced a tiny sample of God's Holy Wrath.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 17, 2022 12:15 PM (pL94Z)

118 There was sexual abuse in her history

*

GASP!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:16 PM (vs65b)

119 have a good friend, married to his gay partner for years, both politically very conservative, who says that the tyranny movement is going to destroy all of the civil rights gains he and those liked him worked so hard to achieve over the last 30 years or so

What are "the civil rights gains"?

I argue that the strongest gains are found in a document that says " all men are created equal".

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 17, 2022 12:16 PM (K0jo2)

120 Pray for our success if you are so inclined. I am in charge of security so pray also that it is uneventful

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 17, 2022 12:17 PM (wjm4F)

121 Our church is throwing a block party for the kids and adults in our church's neighborhood. I will fight back in this way; for now. Need to get off my phone and light a fire under my posterior

*

If one person hears what needs to be heard then it's worth it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:18 PM (vs65b)

122 Recently I've watched a couple of Tolkien geek videos about the fall of Numenor.
Western civilization today reminds me very much of Numenor prior to its being drowned in the ocean.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 12:18 PM (eGTCV)

123 If "gay" is important to you, if the rainbow flag is important to you, you're in a sex cult and dangerous to children.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:14 PM (vs65b)

I read somewhere at one time that about half of all sexual abuse of children happens to boys, and that most sexual abuse comes from men. So that does paint a rather bleak picture of gay and bi men, given they are such a small part of the population, doesn't it?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:18 PM (ynpvh)

124
Or in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, it wasn't "in the process of imploding" it experienced a tiny sample of God's Holy Wrath.

Sometimes referenced as "God's mysterious ways"

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 17, 2022 12:19 PM (K0jo2)

125 Barack Obama's neighbors had the refugees hauled off to a concentration camp run by a militia controlled by the governor.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at September 17, 2022 12:19 PM (IgGFh)

126 Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 17, 2022 12:10 PM

Excellent idea. We need alternatives to what the kids are fed in schools, on social media, etc.

Posted by: KT at September 17, 2022 12:20 PM (rrtZS)

127 read somewhere at one time that about half of all sexual abuse of children happens to boys, and that most sexual abuse comes from men. So that does paint a rather bleak picture of gay and bi men, given they are such a small part of the population, doesn't it?

*

They've admitted in these last few years that the whole "born this way" act was complete and utter BS.

The only way they can reproduce is by recruiting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:21 PM (vs65b)

128 Wait, so you're telling me Jonah Goldberg's floppy man tits aren't peak masculinity? Now i don't know what to believe in this world.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 17, 2022 12:21 PM (poG8n)

129 117 My willie is more girthy than an entire GI Joe doll. Maybe not the pregnant GI Joe doll though. Depends on what stage.

Posted by: fd at September 17, 2022 12:15 PM (uH1zk)

"Mr. Simpson, that's the umbilical cord"--Doctor to Homer Simpson after birth of Bart

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:21 PM (ynpvh)

130 One difference between Numenor and Western civilization is that the Faithful had a place to go.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 12:21 PM (eGTCV)

131 100 I have a good friend, married to his gay partner for years, both politically very conservative, who says that the tyranny movement is going to destroy all of the civil rights gains he and those liked him worked so hard to achieve over the last 30 years or so.
Posted by: Tom Servo

This shit stops when people like him and his partner make it stop. When they call this crap out for what it is, mental illness and coercion.

Then the kids will start murdering the "adults" responsible. Their parents, teachers and doctors.

Whoo boy, it's going to be a slaughterhouse.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 17, 2022 12:21 PM (U2p+3)

132 Somebody needs to create a version of West Side Story where Tony falls in love with a Muslim woman, if only so Tony can sing "Sharia". "Sharia, a girl I met follows Sharia...".

Posted by: Uncledave at September 17, 2022 12:22 PM (zpKII)

133 Entertaining any part of the QWERTY argument is a validation. Homosexuality and the rest is an invalid part to life and should be invalidated.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 17, 2022 12:22 PM (4J8aT)

134 Pray for our success if you are so inclined. I am in charge of security so pray also that it is uneventful
Posted by: Sock Monkey *

Prayers up. Thank you for taking action. May God bless this effort and increase healthy relationships and Judeo Christian norms.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 17, 2022 12:22 PM (K0jo2)

135 126 Barack Obama's neighbors had the refugees hauled off to a concentration camp run by a militia controlled by the governor.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at September 17, 2022 12:19 PM (IgGFh)

Efficient. Reminds me of something...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:22 PM (ynpvh)

136 good morning, all. got the motorcycle back together yesterday. multiple issues with the cooling system, 3 o-rings connecting the waterjacket to the radiator hoses, a mechanical seal between the waterpump impeller and the crankcase, and a radiator cap were all bad and keeping the system from pressurizing. 40 mile test run yesterday was successful, with no issues. gonna trade it in for a '21 ducati multistrada v4s next week.

Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 17, 2022 12:22 PM (3CCua)

137 Or in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah, it wasn't "in the process of imploding" it experienced a tiny sample of God's Holy Wrath.

*

I remember reading somewhere that there are materials fused together there that are only similarly fused together in Japan where the bombs were dropped.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:23 PM (vs65b)

138 134 Entertaining any part of the QWERTY argument is a validation. Homosexuality and the rest is an invalid part to life and should be invalidated.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 17, 2022 12:22 PM (4J8aT)

Now the DVORAK argument is pretty interesting...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:23 PM (ynpvh)

139 Why this thing pops up in decaying societies; I believe there are always some around at any time that are drawn to these kinds of things. But healthy societies self-police and suppress destructive people and destructive behavior. But when a society loses faith in itself, when it Essentially loses its will to live, then all of the forces of destruction are allowed to proceed unchecked.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2022 12:24 PM (eCiYT)

140 140 Why this thing pops up in decaying societies; I believe there are always some around at any time that are drawn to these kinds of things. But healthy societies self-police and suppress destructive people and destructive behavior. But when a society loses faith in itself, when it Essentially loses its will to live, then all of the forces of destruction are allowed to proceed unchecked.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2022 12:24 PM (eCiYT)

Yeah, when they set fire to your hut it was definitely a signal to move on.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:25 PM (ynpvh)

141 That first clip from WSS iirc was not in the original and the second has been altered.

Sondheim's spinning in his grave.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 17, 2022 12:26 PM (4J8aT)

142 You don't get to say "gays should be able to get married" and "gays should be able to adopt children" and then draw a line because you got what you wanted.

You opened the spigot. The water flows freely. We tried to explain it to you, but no, the Smart People knew better.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:26 PM (vs65b)

143 Another climate/reparations scam in SF?
https://is.gd/qrvbyP

Posted by: Ciampino -- so FJB admits he's corrupt at September 17, 2022 12:27 PM (qfLjt)

144 143 You don't get to say "gays should be able to get married" and "gays should be able to adopt children" and then draw a line because you got what you wanted.

You opened the spigot. The water flows freely. We tried to explain it to you, but no, the Smart People knew better.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:26 PM (vs65b)

It's not that the spigot was opened, but rather the dam was slightly breached. But as the dam has a breach, inevitably a torrent follows.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:27 PM (ynpvh)

145 Brought up on book thread there are videos on every race, aspect and questions of Tolkien's world on YouTube, probably watched more than a dozen

Posted by: Skip at September 17, 2022 12:28 PM (k8B25)

146 144 Another climate/reparations scam in SF?
https://is.gd/qrvbyP

Posted by: Ciampino -- so FJB admits he's corrupt at September 17, 2022 12:27 PM (qfLjt)

Sea level rise is toxic? The Salton Sea argues the opposite; without an outlet and levels getting low, the fish died.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:28 PM (ynpvh)

147
I read somewhere at one time that about half of all sexual abuse of children happens to boys, and that most sexual abuse comes from men. So that does paint a rather bleak picture of gay and bi men, given they are such a small part of the population, doesn't it?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:18 PM


The Boy Scouts of America kept a database of people they discharged for abuse of a sexual nature. From that list they extrapolated perhaps 10,000 former Boy Scouts would come forward. Wrong - by a mile. They now have somewhere around 82,000 who have filed claims against them.

With the amount of money they have pledged and the amount some other organizations and insurance companies are making available, it works out to about $34,000 per claim. What a fvcking joke.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 12:30 PM (y3pKJ)

148 So additional water from rising sea levels that haven't risen any that would naturally dilute pollution is causing...

Wait, what?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:31 PM (vs65b)

149 147 144 Another climate/reparations scam in SF?
https://is.gd/qrvbyP

Posted by: Ciampino -- so FJB admits he's corrupt at September 17, 2022 12:27 PM (qfLjt)

Sea level rise is toxic? The Salton Sea argues the opposite; without an outlet and levels getting low, the fish died.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:28 PM (ynpvh)

For a fun read on low sea levels, read what happened to the Mediterranean when the inlet got dammed up and it started drying out. There are HUGE salt deposits left over from the era when that happened. Look up Mediterranean Salt Giant or MSG (no, not THAT MSG).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

150 Bob at the NSA left the intern in charge this morning
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at September 17, 2022 11:39 AM (wjm4F)

-

Guys, I don’t monitor you anymore. NSA is in the business of things like staring fake wars in Ukraine. The FbI has taken over monitoring right wing blogs. I check in every now and then for old times sake though. Miss you, love you.
- Bob

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 17, 2022 12:32 PM (3vQN0)

151 Notice how all the diversity ends at the middle of that creepy little gender rainbow, and the entire "dude" half is just identical cutouts of different colors. One of which is standing a little faggy.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 17, 2022 12:32 PM (QmnKW)

152 As a pre-teen I loved the novel National Velvet, and I was a tom-boy girl and wanted to be flat chested - but never wanted to be a boy. I hit puberty fairly early for the times and don't know that I ever had just a 'training bra', but never got huge "Ten" size melons.

Thank heavens the BS trans and non-binary crap was not around back then. Probably we were poor enough that I could not have pursued any surgical foolishness anyway but there was not the percolating evil at all to suggest to me that I should try. Kids today are bombarded with evil suggestions, and by people that used to be considered 'a position of trust' parent, teacher, counselor, etc.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at September 17, 2022 12:32 PM (3cGpq)

153 They've admitted in these last few years that the whole "born this way" act was complete and utter BS.

The only way they can reproduce is by recruiting.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:21 PM (vs65b)

My professional experience is to the point where I can predict with some precision, when I see how the illness is manifested now, what the abuse was in their childhood.

A rough equivalent would be, if you looked at every human who is missing an arm or a leg, it WOULD be possible to find some who were "born that way." Most of the time though, they were broken by what happened to them after birth.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 12:33 PM (NWBBy)

154 You know.

Most children who experience sexual predation and abuse grow up to be normal, productive members of society who don't dwell on it. Who don't predicate every life choice on their past. People are encouraged to fail, to make shitty choices and then to blame their abuse. I'm not saying there aren't some folks who have been irreparably damaged, it's just not the majority.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 17, 2022 12:33 PM (U2p+3)

155 153 As a pre-teen I loved the novel National Velvet, and I was a tom-boy girl and wanted to be flat chested - but never wanted to be a boy. I hit puberty fairly early for the times and don't know that I ever had just a 'training bra', but never got huge "Ten" size melons.

Thank heavens the BS trans and non-binary crap was not around back then. Probably we were poor enough that I could not have pursued any surgical foolishness anyway but there was not the percolating evil at all to suggest to me that I should try. Kids today are bombarded with evil suggestions, and by people that used to be considered 'a position of trust' parent, teacher, counselor, etc.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at September 17, 2022 12:32 PM (3cGpq)

Irreversible solutions are the Best!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:33 PM (ynpvh)

156 But healthy societies self-police and suppress destructive people and destructive behavior.

This sounds right.

It implies that a society wanting to return to health would again self police and suppress destructive tendencies. Which we do see evidence of: push back at libraries and schools. The push back is made more difficult because the power system backs the perversion not individual liberty.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 17, 2022 12:34 PM (K0jo2)

157 157 But healthy societies self-police and suppress destructive people and destructive behavior.

This sounds right.

It implies that a society wanting to return to health would again self police and suppress destructive tendencies. Which we do see evidence of: push back at libraries and schools. The push back is made more difficult because the power system backs the perversion not individual liberty.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 17, 2022 12:34 PM (K0jo2)

Cancer kills if not stopped.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:35 PM (ynpvh)

158 Heh. I have TCM on and the movie is "The Public Enemy". Cagney and his partner just pulled a heist and got a big payday, and are getting fitted for tailor made suits. Even then, the tailor doing the measuring is over the top geh setting off Cagney's gaydar.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 17, 2022 12:35 PM (lz5hY)

159 159 Heh. I have TCM on and the movie is "The Public Enemy". Cagney and his partner just pulled a heist and got a big payday, and are getting fitted for tailor made suits. Even then, the tailor doing the measuring is over the top geh setting off Cagney's gaydar.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at September 17, 2022 12:35 PM (lz5hY)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IZPuwxfK6I

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:36 PM (ynpvh)

160 Why this thing pops up in decaying societies; I believe there are always some around at any time that are drawn to these kinds of things. But healthy societies self-police and suppress destructive people and destructive behavior. But when a society loses faith in itself, when it Essentially loses its will to live, then all of the forces of destruction are allowed to proceed unchecked.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2022 12:24 PM (eCiYT)

There's definitely a religious aspect to all of it. Whether one is a believer or not, it is damn near impossible NOT to notice when a society loses its faith in, not just itself, but the "something greater" thing, all this stuff occurs.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 12:37 PM (NWBBy)

161 i could chime in with my voluminous knowledge about gays but that's ancient history

the gays have gone from queers to pawns

Posted by: REDACTED at September 17, 2022 12:37 PM (us2H3)

162 Most children who experience sexual predation and abuse grow up to be normal, productive members of society who don't dwell on it.

**

Absolutely. I'd love to see the numbers (and I'm certain they exist), because I'd definitely bet that not every sexually or mentally abused person grows up to be a sex cult member, but that every sex cult member was sexually or mentally abused at a crucial point in their (often young) life.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:38 PM (zrInF)

163 Cancer kills if not stopped.

*

Imagine how bad the symptoms would be if we didn't get the shot!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:39 PM (zrInF)

164 164 Cancer kills if not stopped.

*

Imagine how bad the symptoms would be if we didn't get the shot!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:39 PM (zrInF)

I read that as "If we didn't get shot"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

165
Most children who experience sexual predation and abuse grow up to be normal, productive members of society who don't dwell on it.

Most children who suffer sexual abuse have trouble in school and almost invariably do not finish college with a lifetime diminished earnings because of that of over $300,000. Yes, they may very well become productive members of society who don't dwell on it. But they're still damaged goods.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 12:41 PM (y3pKJ)

166 3 New Buses of MIGRANTS ARRIVE in New York City; average is NOW SEVEN PER DAY... - Fox News

(I don't have a link)

Posted by: Ciampino --- so FJB admits he's corrupt at September 17, 2022 12:42 PM (qfLjt)

167 In an Aero Pinochet World, we would collate the list of all of the "doctors" who do these surgeries, and schedule them for their "flights", until the list is exhausted.

A great many of their clinical employees would go along for the ride.

This is how you put an end to such utter depravities. Unlike Pinochet, don't do this in secret in the wee hours. Nope. Prime time, mass market teevee. Publish a Hall of Shame of their photos, the number of kids they'd mutilated, and a running count of the number of those kids who've committed suicide.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 17, 2022 12:42 PM (e6UQI)

168 167 3 New Buses of MIGRANTS ARRIVE in New York City; average is NOW SEVEN PER DAY... - Fox News

(I don't have a link)

Posted by: Ciampino --- so FJB admits he's corrupt at September 17, 2022 12:42 PM (qfLjt)

I love it when the left is made to live by their own rules.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:42 PM (ynpvh)

169 Most children who experience sexual predation and abuse grow up to be normal, productive members of society who don't dwell on it. Who don't predicate every life choice on their past. People are encouraged to fail, to make shitty choices and then to blame their abuse. I'm not saying there aren't some folks who have been irreparably damaged, it's just not the majority.

I think that it was more common for people to move on from abuse before the time when being a victim was celebrated. In an age where many are trying to claim the greatest victim status, it is easier to claim victimhood then ignore it.

And I am *not saying it should be ignored.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 17, 2022 12:43 PM (K0jo2)

170 Absolutely. I'd love to see the numbers (and I'm certain they exist), because I'd definitely bet that not every sexually or mentally abused person grows up to be a sex cult member, but that every sex cult member was sexually or mentally abused at a crucial point in their (often young) life.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:38 PM (zrInF)

Basically, yeah. That's why there probably ISN'T any decent research into the topic. Because the ones who don't carry all this into their adulthood, they remain invisible on this issue. And why would anyone WANT to awaken all that for them.

But the ones who are utilizing mental health services, in all its variety, the presence of abuse, it's the vast majority of people using these services.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 12:43 PM (NWBBy)

171 Seems appropriate to post this here btw

"I have always been boy crazy. Hyper-sexualized @ a young age…I remember somewhat being sexualized with [a family member]; I remember having sex with friends @ a young age; showers w/my dad (probably not appropriate)."

- Ashley Biden, Joe Biden's daughter

https://tinyurl.com/24h7jub6

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:43 PM (zrInF)

172 115 (Divide by Zero):
The only problem with #LGBnotT is if you say it out loud, some might think you mean #LGBnaughty. But hashtags are normally read, not heard, so not a major problem.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at September 17, 2022 12:44 PM (P7ODV)

173 Clyde Shelton, can you e-mail me, please? (e-mail in nick) Thx

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 17, 2022 10:48 AM

If you're still around, I just sent an e-mail your way. Stepped out earlier to pick up groceries.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 17, 2022 12:45 PM (Do5/p)

174 Basically, yeah. That's why there probably ISN'T any decent research into the topic. Because the ones who don't carry all this into their adulthood, they remain invisible on this issue. And why would anyone WANT to awaken all that for them.

**

Good point.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:45 PM (zrInF)

175 The people responsible (especially the Mengeles in the medical profession) should burn in hell.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 17, 2022 11:34 AM (Qzn2/)

And here on earth too

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 17, 2022 12:45 PM (p/nbH)

176 167 3 New Buses of MIGRANTS ARRIVE in New York City; average is NOW SEVEN PER DAY... - Fox News

(I don't have a link)
Posted by: Ciampino
------------------------------

They have cellphones, they phone their friends back at the sweat box, more people line up for the bus.
Abbott needs more buses.

AZ's shipping too iirc.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 17, 2022 12:45 PM (4J8aT)

177 173 115 (Divide by Zero):
The only problem with #LGBnotT is if you say it out loud, some might think you mean #LGBnaughty. But hashtags are normally read, not heard, so not a major problem.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at September 17, 2022 12:44 PM (P7ODV)

Also problem with #MeToo
Read a certain way, "Pound me, too!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:46 PM (ynpvh)

178 I think that it was more common for people to move on from abuse before the time when being a victim was celebrated. In an age where many are trying to claim the greatest victim status, it is easier to claim victimhood then ignore it.

And I am *not saying it should be ignored.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 17, 2022 12:43 PM (K0jo2)

which of course is mirrored in the disintegration of race relations these days.

Were you subjected to shitty treatment by some, based on your race? I'm sorry... now can we get on with living?

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 12:46 PM (NWBBy)

179 You know, it's interesting that the "most masculine" colors on that chart above are browns, and the feminine leaning male colors are peach and yellow.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:46 PM (zrInF)

180 180 You know, it's interesting that the "most masculine" colors on that chart above are browns, and the feminine leaning male colors are peach and yellow.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:46 PM (zrInF)

White is there...you just can't see it against the background...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:47 PM (ynpvh)

181 I remember there was a teenager on our block when I was a kid. He broke into a house at the end of the street and stole the wife's undies.

The dads on the block found out. Never saw him again. Wonder what happened.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 12:47 PM (6/K6X)

182 180 You know, it's interesting that the "most masculine" colors on that chart above are browns, and the feminine leaning male colors are peach and yellow.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:46 PM (zrInF)

Yeah, kinda a shitty chart. What a pisser.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

183 But they're still damaged goods.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 12:41 PM (y3pKJ)

Most of us are damaged, to one extent or another. One could say it's on a continuum.

So, any of us could look at our lives, what happened to us, how we turned out, and say "if THAT hadn't happened, things would be different."

You're damned right. They would be. Better? Who knows, but definitely different.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 12:48 PM (NWBBy)

184 182 I remember there was a teenager on our block when I was a kid. He broke into a house at the end of the street and stole the wife's undies.

The dads on the block found out. Never saw him again. Wonder what happened.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 12:47 PM (6/K6X)

shipped to boot camp?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

185 I still say the culture on this stuff shifted when the tv/movie programming decisions moved from NY/LA to San Fran/Silicon Valley.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 17, 2022 12:49 PM (cupoy)

186 Cancer kills if not stopped.

Imagine how bad the symptoms would be if we didn't get the shot!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:39 PM (zrInF)

I read that as "If we didn't get shot"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

Well getting shot might stop cancer in it's tracks...

Posted by: JoeF. at September 17, 2022 12:49 PM (mR6Gs)

187 Queer, trans, non-binary, theybies. It's all sociologist gobbledygook newspeak. It's pathological.

Reject it all.

You are either male or female (or the small subset of genetic disorders), or mentally indoctrinated or damaged to some degree. The latter gives you no right to make others play along in your delusions. It gives you less right to groom and indoctrinate children.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 17, 2022 12:49 PM (yHsuS)

188 remember there was a teenager on our block when I was a kid. He broke into a house at the end of the street and stole the wife's undies.

The dads on the block found out. Never saw him again. Wonder what happened.

Community self policing?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 17, 2022 12:50 PM (K0jo2)

189 I remember there was a teenager on our block when I was a kid. He broke into a house at the end of the street and stole the wife's undies.

The dads on the block found out. Never saw him again. Wonder what happened.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 12:47 PM (6/K6X)

It must have been John Gotti's house
shipped to boot camp?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

Posted by: JoeF. at September 17, 2022 12:50 PM (mR6Gs)

190 My Mom had issues. She mentioned something once, involving a young male relative and her and that it was stopped when he "stepped" on an axe.
Yeah, Mom certainly had...issues. Never blamed her for them, but don't excuse some of the strange punishments she came up with.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

191 Yes, they may very well become productive members of society who don't dwell on it. But they're still damaged goods.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 12:41 PM (y3pKJ)

Damaged goods
Send 'em back
I can't work, I can't achieve
Send 'em back
Open the till
Give me the change you said would do me good...

Posted by: Gang Of Four at September 17, 2022 12:50 PM (R/m4+)

192 I remember there was a teenager on our block when I was a kid. He broke into a house at the end of the street and stole the wife's undies.

The dads on the block found out. Never saw him again. Wonder what happened.
Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 12:47 PM (6/K6X)

Yikes! Talk about "don't ask/don't tell."

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 12:51 PM (NWBBy)

193 But healthy societies self-police and suppress destructive people and destructive behavior.

---

Like an immune system

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 17, 2022 12:51 PM (p/nbH)

194 shipped to boot camp?
Posted by: jim

Possible. It was in the 60's suburbia before suburbia existed.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 12:51 PM (6/K6X)

195 187 Cancer kills if not stopped.

Imagine how bad the symptoms would be if we didn't get the shot!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:39 PM (zrInF)

I read that as "If we didn't get shot"...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

Well getting shot might stop cancer in it's tracks...
Posted by: JoeF. at September 17, 2022 12:49 PM (mR6Gs)

NORK medicine. :::homage to Gary Larson's "Horse Medicine" cartoon:::

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:52 PM (ynpvh)

196 >>>172 ... Ashley Biden, Joe Biden's daughter

https://tinyurl.com/24h7jub6
Posted by: Moron Robbie -
----------------

Not mentioned here is her exposing herself in elementary school. A major symptom of abuse.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 17, 2022 12:52 PM (4J8aT)

197 I think maybe boot camp came after the beating.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 12:53 PM (6/K6X)

198 Not mentioned here is her exposing herself in elementary school. A major symptom of abuse.

Posted by: Braenyard

When was this?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 17, 2022 12:53 PM (p/nbH)

199 Yeah, Mom certainly had...issues. Never blamed her for them, but don't excuse some of the strange punishments she came up with.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

And that's a crucial aspect of all this. If you have this stuff in your past, it's going to show up somehow. How YOU perpetuate it... you may not have caused your abuse, but you ARE responsible for the actions you now take with others, especially your children.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 12:53 PM (NWBBy)

200 There's room on those helicopter rides for all the Hwood promoters of perversion.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 17, 2022 12:54 PM (4J8aT)

201 188 You are either male or female (or the small subset of genetic disorders), or mentally indoctrinated or damaged to some degree. The latter gives you no right to make others play along in your delusions. It gives you less right to groom and indoctrinate children.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 17, 2022 12:49 PM (yHsuS)

Pretty much. There are hermaphrodites, those whose genetic makeup is XY, but did not develop male genitals due to certain hormones not being present during embryonic development. These are a miniscule percentage, and in most cases would be assigned a sex at birth in the past (with surgery, like getting a vestigial tail removed)

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:54 PM (ynpvh)

202 Smell your poo.
Gawd.

I
Can't
Even.

These idiots should try to dig a cat hole in a combat zone.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 17, 2022 12:54 PM (anj39)

203 So, any of us could look at our lives, what happened to us, how we turned out, and say "if THAT hadn't happened, things would be different."

*

I had a personal experience with our youngest that showed me how easy it is to change a persons entire life with a five minute or so interaction. Not even anything particularly negative, and definitely nothing inappropriate, just a community sports league where a child had a lot of interest in something and the coach who was responsible for getting the little kids in the right place didn't care about anything other than talking to the hot moms.

I watched my son go from I WANT TO DO THIS ALL THE TIME!!! to "no thanks, I don't really ever want to do this again." And I knew his life had changed. Nothing I could do could overcome it, either. I tried and tried, but it didn't matter. The organized group that he'd dreamt of playing in was not what he thought it would be, and the fork in the road that was his life immediately went to the other direction.

We're all that way, all the time. It's amazing how little stuff affects humans.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 12:56 PM (zrInF)

204 197 >>>172 ... Ashley Biden, Joe Biden's daughter

https://tinyurl.com/24h7jub6
Posted by: Moron Robbie -
----------------

Not mentioned here is her exposing herself in elementary school. A major symptom of abuse.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 17, 2022 12:52 PM (4J8aT)

Depends, but often yes. Sometimes you have kids that have a curiosity about those bits and pieces that just don't really get talked about until puberty.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:56 PM (ynpvh)

205 198 I think maybe boot camp came after the beating.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 12:53 PM (6/K6X)

Well, a boot may have been part of the first part too.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:56 PM (ynpvh)

206 If the incredibly stupid and fringe local authorities in Chicago, DC, and NY didn't mention it or make anything of it, these tiny transfers of illegal aliens to their areas wouldn't be noticed. All of these metros have been flooded with illegals for years. I assume the only reason these idiots said anything at all is to try to score lame points with their unbelievably stupid supporters against the demons in FL and TX.

Of course for decades, the vast majority of illegals have moved to these and other places silently, under the radar - up to the point where neighborhoods, schools, local commerce and trades are changed - which of course has received zero attention from the "press" or almost any public institutions or political figures.

These transfers are happening when the mass illegal admission process has acquired its own bizarre formality and openness, just as aspect of the total collapse of rule of law and responsibility in this area. So maybe this changes things somehow, but I don't see how. The system long ago collapsed, but the voters can't bother themselves to try to restore it, notwithstanding large super-majorities opposing it all.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 17, 2022 12:57 PM (OTzUX)

207 These idiots should try to dig a cat hole in a combat zone.
Posted by: Diogenes
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lol

Posted by: SMH at September 17, 2022 12:57 PM (zxstO)

208 Sorry KT, had to scroll past most of the stuff you posted.

I have zero interest in reading insanity.

Posted by: SMH at September 17, 2022 12:58 PM (zxstO)

209 200 Yeah, Mom certainly had...issues. Never blamed her for them, but don't excuse some of the strange punishments she came up with.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

And that's a crucial aspect of all this. If you have this stuff in your past, it's going to show up somehow. How YOU perpetuate it... you may not have caused your abuse, but you ARE responsible for the actions you now take with others, especially your children.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 17, 2022 12:53 PM (NWBBy)

Except I never felt like I was abused. Maybe spanked with too much enthusiam and gusto, but not abused. My and some of my siblings joke about some of the things, with comments like "well, at least non of us are cross dressers" and "what if you moaned as if you enjoyed the punishment?"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

210 Pretty much. There are hermaphrodites, those whose genetic makeup is XY, but did not develop male genitals due to certain hormones not being present during embryonic development. These are a miniscule percentage, and in most cases would be assigned a sex at birth in the past (with surgery, like getting a vestigial tail removed)
Posted by: jim

*

Some moron posted a video here a couple of years ago that was absolute perfect regarding this. Steven Crowder, maybe?

How many fingers do humans have? Ten. Do some have more or fewer? Yes. But how many fingers do humans have? Ten. It's the same thing with this sex and gender BS.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 01:00 PM (zrInF)

211 Sometimes the most empowering aspect of being abused is knowing you didn't pass it down.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 17, 2022 01:01 PM (U2p+3)

212 Later gators

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at September 17, 2022 01:01 PM (K0jo2)

213 203 Smell your poo.
Gawd.
I
Can't
Even.
These idiots should try to dig a cat hole in a combat zone.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 17, 2022 12:54 PM (anj39)

I remember reading a National Geographic article where it was mentioned that there were fart sniffing parties in France back in the 1920's. No wonder they collapsed so fast to the German onslaught.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 01:01 PM (ynpvh)

214 I just watched the first episode of the latest season of The Grand Tour, Amazon's successor to the old BBC program with Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May. The episode was titled "A Scandi Flick," and featured the trio crossing from the Atlantic to Finland above the Arctic Circle.

Now it's reality TV, and there's a crew of 25 ahead of, alongside and behind them. The situations tend to be contrived. But it's not all scripted, as when James May cracked up his car inside an old submarine base tunnel and was hospitalized.

Being British it's campy, but it's also fun, and it is masculine. I also learned that Holland and Norway are secretly at war.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at September 17, 2022 01:01 PM (IgGFh)

215 Of surviving and prospering despite abuse, I guess I should say.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 17, 2022 01:02 PM (U2p+3)

216 There is a silver lining in the transgender movement... there is zero chance these nutters will ever reproduce. They are the singular end-of-the-line for this shit.

I give it about a decade at most before every one of the current crop of weirdos has offed themselves or retreated from society for good.

Perhaps a bit harsh but sometimes the truth hurts.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 17, 2022 01:02 PM (BFigT)

217 I was fortunate to have to sane parents. My father was my hero and still is God rest his soul. Those that overcame a less fortunate upbringing have my respect. That said I always say a quick prayer for Insomniac when this subject comes up.

Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2022 01:06 PM (9pcIx)

218 There's room on those helicopter rides for all the Hwood promoters of perversion.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 17, 2022 12:54 PM (4J8aT)

I can't even watch TMC, which always shows montages of the movie stars from the past, or listen to Ben "Blacklist" Mankewicz extolling the virtues of this or that director or producer, without saying to myself, "I bet 95% of these people were creeps, deviants, rapists and perverts"

Posted by: JoeF. at September 17, 2022 01:06 PM (mR6Gs)

219 Except I never felt like I was abused.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:59 PM (ynpvh


Good. I'm sorry you and your sibs went through that as kids.
Hugs.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 17, 2022 01:08 PM (p/nbH)

220 I was fortunate to have to sane parents. My father was my hero and still is God rest his soul. Those that overcame a less fortunate upbringing have my respect.

Same here. When I look back on what some of my childhood friends had to endure, my gratitude doubles.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 17, 2022 01:09 PM (Xrfse)

221 I have zero interest in reading insanity.
Posted by: SMH
---------------------

To read it or other wise engage in some consideration of it validates it. It is invalid. It is toxic waste.



Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 17, 2022 01:09 PM (4J8aT)

222 not every sexually or mentally abused person grows up to be a sex cult member, but that every sex cult member was sexually or mentally abused at a crucial point in their (often young) life.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

Same with serial killers, basically all have that in their past but are still an almost unmeasurable subset of the group.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 17, 2022 01:10 PM (MGB5H)

223 I was fortunate to have to sane parents. My father was my hero and still is God rest his soul. Those that overcame a less fortunate upbringing have my respect.


Ditto.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 01:10 PM (6/K6X)

224 Same with serial killers, basically all have that in their past but are still an almost unmeasurable subset of the group.
Posted by: BruceWayne at September 17, 2022 01:10 PM (MGB5H)

Jeffrey Dahmer was the exception to that rule.

Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2022 01:12 PM (9pcIx)

225 "I bet 95% of these people were creeps, deviants, rapists and perverts"
Posted by: JoeF. at September 17,
------------------------

I was thinking about these faggot promoting TV shows and sexualized TV shows that come into the homes of too young to watch children.
Don't go to the movies but they are probably there too.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 17, 2022 01:12 PM (4J8aT)

226 Joe McCarthy and HUAC was right.

Posted by: Eromero at September 17, 2022 01:13 PM (/RDPd)

227 Hopefully it's dawning on the honest gays that the Gay Pride thing is just a vehicle for unstable millennials and Xers to wage war on the rest of the world. If they want to be gay in peace--and there are many gays for which that's all they really want--they will have to help the rest of us deal with the problem. Otherwise this goes on long enough that Western culture totally erodes and the hardcore Catholic Hispanics, Islamic Arabs and secular-family-values Asians get to dictate terms. They will not like that.

Posted by: CppThis at September 17, 2022 01:14 PM (UewuT)

228
I know I was abused in Boy Scouts at the age of 13. I know the abuse was of a sexual nature. I know the perp was terminated that night and driven off the scout reservation. I never told my parents, just said 'Never again' to Boy Scouts. Later that same year I had a male science teacher who had a reputation of putting his arm around the boys but not the girls. My friends had a term for that which I never heard, 'faggot'.

One day, the teacher came up behind me when I was intent on the experiment. He put his arm around me and I instinctively said, "Keep your hands off me, faggot" while I wrestled away. I got marched out of the classroom and down to guidance. Three day suspension with parental conference before re-admittance. I felt like I was punished unfairly. I lost interest in school. My 'A' average disappeared. Even though I had an excellent chance of scholarship due to my athletic ability, I skipped college. No interest.

I don't want to tell this story. But maybe some parent somewhere notices a change in their child's behavior and decides to 'drill down' a little.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 01:14 PM (y3pKJ)

229 I pretty much stick to watching old westerns. Safer that way.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 01:14 PM (6/K6X)

230 IIRC some actual hermaphrodites have started weighing in on the tranny issue, and they're none too happy with fat losers LARPing their condition for fun and profit.

Posted by: CppThis at September 17, 2022 01:16 PM (UewuT)

231 Jeffrey Dahmer was the exception to that rule.
Posted by: polynikes

His family, later on, claimed he was sexually abused by a neighbor boy. Given this extensive known history of sexual sadists id bank on that or some version of it being accurate.

https://tinyurl.com/2p987p53

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 17, 2022 01:16 PM (MGB5H)

232 Joe McCarthy and HUAC was right.
Posted by: Eromero at September 17, 2022 01:13 PM (/RDPd)

I love when the Left argue Senator McCarthy was evil when he headed up the HUAC.

Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2022 01:17 PM (9pcIx)

233 I don't want to tell this story. But maybe some parent somewhere notices a change in their child's behavior and decides to 'drill down' a little.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 01:14 PM (y3pKJ)

Thank you.
{{{{hugs}}}}

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 17, 2022 01:18 PM (p/nbH)

234 Sooners rolling in Lincoln this am, good to see. Put this away and then I can just look forward to Sparty's trip to Seattle tonight.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 17, 2022 01:18 PM (MGB5H)

235 I pretty much stick to watching old westerns. Safer that way.
Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 01:14 PM (6/K6X)

I bet even some of those guys were queer.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 17, 2022 01:18 PM (mR6Gs)

236 The Sting did a supercut of 60 guest stars who appeared on the original 1980s Miami Vice TV show. Pretty cool.

https://bit.ly/3qS6m7j

Posted by: bonhomme at September 17, 2022 01:19 PM (i0wNm)

237 229 I don't want to tell this story. But maybe some parent somewhere notices a change in their child's behavior and decides to 'drill down' a little.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 01:14 PM (y3pKJ)

Sounds like that teacher needed to be literally drilled down.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 01:20 PM (ynpvh)

238 You go, Ken doll.
It’s not ok to fat shame just because some guys have beer bellies!

Posted by: Rex B at September 17, 2022 01:21 PM (aH/pT)

239 I pretty much stick to watching old westerns. Safer that way.
Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 01:14 PM (6/K6X)

I bet even some of those guys were queer.
Posted by: JoeF

Possible. It's not in your FACE. They kept their personal lives personal.


Grandma had two male friends. I never realized until decades later they may have been faggots.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 01:21 PM (6/K6X)

240 Divide by Zero,
I'm sorry your classmates didn't rally to your defense.
My teammates and I consistently protected each other, but sometimes, shit still happened. And then there was the constant groping. That didn't count though, as we all got it and we all shrugged it off. It was the more intimate stuff we really tried to protect each other from. But there were a few girls who actually sought out intimacy with coaches. They inevitably had no father in the picture and just wanted to "feel special."

It's complicated.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 17, 2022 01:22 PM (U2p+3)

241 Grandma had two male friends. I never realized until decades later they may have been faggots.
Posted by: Infidel

They were just roommates for 46 years, cmon now.

Posted by: BruceWayne at September 17, 2022 01:22 PM (MGB5H)

242 I don't want to tell this story. But maybe some parent somewhere notices a change in their child's behavior and decides to 'drill down' a little.

Posted by: Divide by Zero
___

Prayers up for continued healing.

Guess I should be thankful I only had to deal with being a punching bag when mom had more than a snootful.

Posted by: SMH at September 17, 2022 01:22 PM (zxstO)

243 220 Except I never felt like I was abused.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 12:59 PM (ynpvh

Good. I'm sorry you and your sibs went through that as kids.
Hugs.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 17, 2022 01:08 PM (p/nbH)

My Dad was unaware of a good deal of it. My mom meted the "unusual" punishments. Not really meant in a sexual way, but just bizarre. I worried about her well being for the last few years I couldn't contact her.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 01:22 PM (ynpvh)

244 Rough time to be a crab fisherman

Updated weather and wave observations from NOAA buoy 46035, located in the south central bering Sea 275 miles (450km) west of St. Paul Island. Max significant wave height was 51.8 ft (15.8 m). #akwx @Climatologist49

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 17, 2022 01:23 PM (Wrs74)

245 @Divide by Zero

Thank you for your honesty. I was sexually assaulted in college by another man, so I understand the anguish. My grades suffered and I almost didn't graduate.

I finally discussed the issue with my wife 3-4 years into our marriage (almost 10 years since the incident) about why I didn't "feel comfortable" in some public situations/gatherings.

I'm so glad that I found a WOMAN (a real woman) that helped me heal from that terrifying incident.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at September 17, 2022 01:23 PM (SEa82)

246 245 Rough time to be a crab fisherman

Updated weather and wave observations from NOAA buoy 46035, located in the south central bering Sea 275 miles (450km) west of St. Paul Island. Max significant wave height was 51.8 ft (15.8 m). #akwx @Climatologist49

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 17, 2022 01:23 PM (Wrs74)

Yowza.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 01:26 PM (ynpvh)

247 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 17, 2022 01:23 PM (Wrs74)

Deadliest Catch indeed.

Posted by: polynikes at September 17, 2022 01:26 PM (9pcIx)

248 I have a boring life

Posted by: Skip at September 17, 2022 01:27 PM (k8B25)

249 Love and prayers for healing and guidance for everyone who hurts from this.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at September 17, 2022 01:27 PM (UTh9g)

250
Sounds like that teacher needed to be literally drilled down.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 01:20 PM


He finished out the school year but didn't return the next. I guess a whispering campaign of 'he's a fag' might have started which made his enjoyment of touching young boys impossible at that school. So he moved on.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 01:27 PM (y3pKJ)

251 249 I have a boring life

Posted by: Skip at September 17, 2022 01:27 PM (k8B25)

Those that do don't realized how blessed they are sometimes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 01:27 PM (ynpvh)

252 For amusing commentary on the TERF wars, read Katie Hertzog (@kittypurrzog) on Twitter.

She's a lesbian and an excellent writer, who was booted from the staff of Seattle's alt-weekly for daring to say that only women are women.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 17, 2022 01:27 PM (I2/tG)

253 249 I have a boring life
Posted by: Skip at September 17, 2022 01:27 PM (k8B25)

well you did. Now, just like the rest of us, you live in Interesting Times.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2022 01:28 PM (r46W7)

254 Yikes, I hope they have prepared as much as possible.

Posted by: Infidel at September 17, 2022 01:28 PM (6/K6X)

255 Posted by: Divide by Zero

I had a similar, but hetero experience, in 7th grade. Teacher was known to have student girlfriends, and would stand beside me and stroke my arm, which was a subtle way of mocking me for not knowing the answer to the math problem.

One day I knew the answer, but he had already turned to his gallery of boys to make jokes. Minutes later, asked, did you figure that out yet, April? I mouthed off to him, said I told him that five minutes ago, pervert, and was kicked out of class.

Principal's response: "I'm sorry, April, but I have to believe the teacher in this case." Didn't care much for school before then, even less afterward.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 17, 2022 01:28 PM (OX9vb)

256 251
Sounds like that teacher needed to be literally drilled down.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 01:20 PM

He finished out the school year but didn't return the next. I guess a whispering campaign of 'he's a fag' might have started which made his enjoyment of touching young boys impossible at that school. So he moved on.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 01:27 PM (y3pKJ)

there was a teacher at my high school that all the students that ever had him though he was gay. A decade or two after I graduated, he was arrested for inappropriate relations with a teenage boy, so I guess the rumors were true.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 01:29 PM (ynpvh)

257 > Grandma had two male friends. I never realized until decades later they may have been faggots.
____________

My grandmother did too. Larry and Ken. Of course they did all her interior decorating. Being from New Orleans her house was pretty much like the inside of brothel. But my grandfather didn't really care so long as his office, and shop were not touched.

My parents knew, didn't intervene when we were with them at a social gathering or whatever, but kept an eye on us.

I recall they were well dressed (of course), polite, and kept their affections for each other somewhere out of view.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 17, 2022 01:29 PM (BFigT)

258 That's $105 an hour with the girlfriend experience

Posted by: Sarah at September 17, 2022 01:29 PM (roH4R)

259 I have a boring life

Sometimes that's not such a bad thing.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 17, 2022 01:29 PM (Xrfse)

260 Forty years ago, there were 400 lesbian bars in the United States.

Now there are only 15, since actual lesbians don't want to hang out in a space with men wearing dresses, and there's no way to exclude the men wearing dresses.

Victory is in sight!

Posted by: Radical Transgenderism! at September 17, 2022 01:30 PM (I2/tG)

261 Guess I should be thankful I only had to deal with being a punching bag when mom had more than a snootful.
Posted by: SMH at September 17, 2022 01:22 PM (zxstO)

That's pretty awful, too. I'm very blessed to have the parents I have.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 17, 2022 01:31 PM (OX9vb)

262 AOSHQ: Come for the coffee, but stay for the hostile fags who want to violate your orifices.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 17, 2022 01:31 PM (w2Z7l)

263 On a happier thread GARDEN NOOD

Posted by: Skip advising you of your Nood threads at September 17, 2022 01:32 PM (k8B25)

264 263 AOSHQ: Come for the coffee, but stay for the hostile fags who want to violate your orifices.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 17, 2022 01:31 PM (w2Z7l)

Sure they ain't otters?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 17, 2022 01:32 PM (ynpvh)

265 Didn't the buoys in the north Atlantic off Novia Scotia/Newfoundland/wherever it was at the time of the "perfect storm" and the loss of the Andrea Gayle show wave heights of 100 feet?

Since so few ever experience much of it, the power of nature vs. the piddling insignificance of man and all his works is a fundamental fact that seems lost to comfortable prosperous societies. And of course is the basis - at least emotionally - for the absurd science-free "environmental" and "climate" hysterias and campaigns of vandalism now wreaking such havoc.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 17, 2022 01:34 PM (OTzUX)

266 I've never had any of the horrible experiences some of you you have had and I'm thankful for that and I pray for you.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 17, 2022 01:39 PM (eGTCV)

267 https://www.danielgreenfield.org/2022/09/
the wit and wisdom of kamala
https://tinyurl.com/mryx4rju

Posted by: Skip at September 17, 2022 01:40 PM (k8B25)

268
Principal's response: "I'm sorry, April, but I have to believe the teacher in this case." Didn't care much for school before then, even less afterward.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 17, 2022 01:28 PM


Yup, that's the way it works. Parents need to fight the groomers. To be labeled 'extremists' and be investigated by the FBI by speaking out at a school board meeting? Total bullshit.

As to school, in a long discussion with my lawyer, he revealed that most sex abuse victims lose interest in school and never go on to college. A projected loss of over $300,000 in lifetime earnings. That would have been the amount the Boy Scouts would have been able to pay if *only* 10,000 victims had come forward. But almost 10X that amount joined in the suit. They could still pay that amount if they went completely bankrupt. Which they should. Burn it down and salt the earth.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 01:40 PM (y3pKJ)

269 228: "Hopefully it's dawning on the honest gays that the Gay Pride thing is just a vehicle for unstable millennials and Xers to wage war on the rest of the world."

That seems to be the message Doyle is projecting.

Posted by: KT at September 17, 2022 01:52 PM (rrtZS)

270
An an addendum: I never told anyone about the scout trip. I did however keep my son out of scouting. When my daughters sons came of age I told her (without details) that my experience was bad and I would advise her not to have them join. So she had them join 4H and Civil Air Patrol, things like that, and watched over them like a hawk.

I was lucky in that my family had a business I could go into. The lack of a college diploma didn't matter for the next quarter century. Until the business failed. I made millions and lost half of it then. Suddenly the lack of college mattered to employers. So who knows?

But the groomers need to be fought, this can not become mainstream.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 01:58 PM (y3pKJ)

271 But the groomers need to be fought, this can not become mainstream.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at September 17, 2022 01:58 PM (y3pKJ)

Every single damn day!
Keep up the fight brother.
Vigilance is our imperative.

-SLV

Posted by: Shy Lurking Voter at September 17, 2022 02:05 PM (SEa82)

272 The public Marxist Seminaries are pushing this grooming

Posted by: Skip at September 17, 2022 02:15 PM (k8B25)

273

What is best in life Conan?

To poop out your ex-dick hole, to put on woman's clothing and hang around in dyke bars!

Posted by: Dick Wink at September 17, 2022 02:23 PM (7DYli)

274 What a reeking pile of idiotic garbage promulgated by a minority of deluded fools who have reached a level of influence far in excess of their actual numbers.

They earned all the opprobrium directed the their way, may they be subsumed by it.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 17, 2022 02:49 PM (KATBx)

275 Pity you did not use the original WSS version for this song. Much better picture and no woke 'you can't play a PR because you are not one' crap. BinTn

Posted by: BrianinTn at September 17, 2022 03:01 PM (/YEj3)

276 K.T You have absolutely outdone yourself! This is a magnificent thread. More legitimate content than a ten foot stack of post-modern Gender Studies journals. Really, brava.

Posted by: motionview, a MAGA Republican (who supports DeSantis) at September 17, 2022 03:13 PM (9NKMS)

277 No religion and their looking for one

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 17, 2022 03:18 PM (k8B25)

278 Man it has to suck to have your dick chopped off and a hole carved out in you next to your anus, only to find out you're going to smell like shit the rest of your life.

At least they can't have orgasms anymore so there's that.

Posted by: TexasDan at September 17, 2022 03:18 PM (c0pmE)

279 My earnings are $85 an hour because they are totally dependent on deception.

Posted by: Sarah at September 17, 2022 03:30 PM (RbgK5)

280 By non-binary are they referring to their cockroach and slug ancestors? Or are their including their great grandparents rat and snake as well?

Posted by: Obama's boyfriend at September 17, 2022 03:47 PM (EcD5Y)

281 In the color chart I don't see any guys that are prego. I thought that was one of the big themes this past year...men can give birth. Just typing that sentence made me think what a fucked up country we have become in the eyes of the rest of the world.

Posted by: sidney at September 17, 2022 03:55 PM (itAo5)

282 I have a good friend, married to his gay partner for years, both politically very conservative, who says that the tyranny movement is going to destroy all of the civil rights gains he and those liked him worked so hard to achieve over the last 30 years or so.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 17, 2022 12:08 PM (eCiYT)

His unreality of thinking he could get married to another man is what led to this.

Posted by: WiNO at September 17, 2022 03:55 PM (EpDzw)

283 motionview, a MAGA Republican (who supports DeSantis) at September 17, 2022 03:13 PM (9NKMS)

It wouldn't be so important if they weren't pushing it on kids behind their parents' backs.

Posted by: KT at September 17, 2022 05:00 PM (rrtZS)

284 "some women have a whole where their penis used to be"... #Believe All Scientists

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285 I am surprised

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Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
News/Chat