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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | Waiting For the AffidavitThe affidavit is set to be released at noon. It was already a one-sided affair containing no evidence, just assertions by FBI agents. We all know how trustworthy the assertions they made in their FISA warrant application were. This will be redacted, to make it even more one-sided, if that's possible. If they don't release this within 10 or 20 minutes, I'll put up a different post. The Deep State bullshit, via the Deep State stenographers at the NYT:-The Justice Department asked to search President Donald J. Trump's Florida residence after retrieving an initial batch of highly classified national security documents, out of concern that their disclosure could compromise "clandestine human sources" used in intelligence gathering, according to a redacted version of the affidavit used to obtain the warrant.So their evidence for the warrant was based on... the documents Trump gave them voluntarily. That's what necessitated a raid on a President's home. Couldn't just say "37 pages long." Had to say "more than three dozen pages," to make it sound as damning and dramatic as possible. .. describes the government's monthslong push to recover highly classified materials taken from the White House by a former president who viewed state documents as his private property.Most if not all of them are his private property. The affidavit lays out a timeline starting with a Feb. 9, 2022, criminal referral by the National Archives after it had retrieved 15 boxes from Mar-a-Lago. The affidavit quotes the referral as indicating that the boxes contained "newspapers, magazines, printed news articles, photos, miscellaneous print-outs, notes, presidential correspondence, personal and post-presidential records, and 'a lot of classified records.' Of most significant concern was that highly classified records were unfoldered, intermixed with other records, and otherwise unproperly [sic] identified."Weird that I don't see anything about NUCLEAR CODES in there. Oh, I know why -- because that was another Deep State lie, fed to a propaganda press whose main stock-in-trade is lies. @seanmdavAn actual page of the release:
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We're gonna need more black toner!--FIB
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:13 AM (ynpvh) 2
Mornin' Ace!
Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 26, 2022 11:14 AM (/xTUU) 3
Hah! First
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:14 AM (ynpvh) 4
We told you there would be breaking news today.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2022 11:14 AM (aeePL) 5
Even after I NOODed...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:14 AM (ynpvh) 6
That meme is snort-worthy.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:14 AM (yQpMk) 7
I'm here waiting....
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:14 AM (bs+z0) 8
Probably a couple of words that are meaningless in a sea of black toner.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 26, 2022 11:14 AM (BFigT) 9
No rest for the weary, Chuy.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2022 11:15 AM (aeePL) 10
Steiner ... Steiner will come..
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 26, 2022 11:15 AM (a3Q+t) 11
That tweet is pretty funny.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 11:15 AM (DRSnL) 12
That's a good Rick Roll.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 11:15 AM (LvTSG) 13
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 26, 2022 11:15 AM (Zz0t1) 14
FJB
Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 11:15 AM (NpAcC) 15
lol what you posted is what I expect.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2022 11:15 AM (trdmm) 16
Everything will be redacted except the widely dispersed words "Orange"... Man"... and "Bad".
Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 26, 2022 11:16 AM (/xTUU) 17
Meaningless. This is the biggest con job ever.
Posted by: Czech Chick at August 26, 2022 11:16 AM (haWye) 18
That is pretty clever....
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:16 AM (bs+z0) 19
#TwoMinutes
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at August 26, 2022 11:16 AM (TNyrE) 20
that's 12pm HI right ?
Posted by: DOJ at August 26, 2022 11:16 AM (us2H3) 21
I just watched that My Son Hunter trailer from Breitbart. Wow, they have a lot of guts! It will be interesting to see the reaction.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2022 11:16 AM (aeePL) 22
LMFAO.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 26, 2022 11:16 AM (Zz0t1) 23
Because We Say So!
Posted by: The FBI at August 26, 2022 11:16 AM (oTZbj) 24
Who runs the House Judiciary GOP Twitter account? Someone there learned to troll.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (BFigT) 25
It's going to be completely redacted except for the words "Top Secret" and "Nuclear"
And the full user of those phrases will probably be "we don't believe Mr. Trump retained any Top Secret or Nuclear passport work." The only thing that should be redacted would be an informants name, anything else and we know it's all bs, and they'll end up leaking more lies that can't be verified because it's all blacked out. Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (jZYv/) Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (4/66f) 27
Willowed:
I found a coal burning stove for sale on Amazon. It's the old style, with a cooking top. I am thinking about picking one up, if I can't find an old stove for sale at the new location. Posted by: Notsothoreau Lowe's sells both the Rancher snd Railroad Pot Belly made by US Stove Company. Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (nyNes) 28
Was this one of the 10 posts you wrote yesterday?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (yQpMk) 29
Report by fair high .indeed men this one will be
Posted by: Skip's phone at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (EdnZ5) 30
Rick Rolled ha
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (BRHaw) 31
The FBI is going to be handing out black paper, they are never going to reveal anything.
Hell, we still can't get the unredacted docs for the instigation for Crossfire Hurricane Investigation. We are going to get nothing. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (+ZemB) 32
The affidavit must be pretty nasty.. I mean I'm sure their "witnesses" had nothing but praise for Trump
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (bs+z0) Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (4/66f) 34
21 I just watched that My Son Hunter trailer from Breitbart. Wow, they have a lot of guts! It will be interesting to see the reaction. "
"Deplatformed!" - Youtube, Venmo, Google, Yahoo, BofA, IMDB/Amazon, Chase, Wells Fargo, etc, etc, etc. Posted by: Scott_T at August 26, 2022 11:18 AM (2waQ7) Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 11:18 AM (NpAcC) 36
Can they just not print the redacted parts?...save toner?
Posted by: BignJames at August 26, 2022 11:18 AM (AwYPR) 37
Waiting for Good Dough.
Posted by: epador at August 26, 2022 11:18 AM (geKVs) 38
Bets on that 20 minutes over under?
Posted by: Skip's phone at August 26, 2022 11:18 AM (EdnZ5) 39
Remember the Tarmac Meeting?
Veteran Alabama reporter and anchor Christopher Sign, who previously worked in Phoenix for more than a decade, was found dead by the local Hoover police Saturday morning, according to Hoover Police Department Capt. Keith Czeskleba. Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2022 11:18 AM (BRHaw) 40
What fresh hell awaits???
Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2022 11:18 AM (dCxaZ) 41
By the way... When should we expect the name/names of the leakers in the Supreme Court ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:19 AM (bs+z0) 42
Hmmm. Wait with bated breath for prevarication and deceit, or just assume that's what we'll get and not worry about it.
Decisions, decisions. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 11:19 AM (WWh8n) 43
24 Who runs the House Judiciary GOP Twitter account? Someone there learned to troll.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (BFigT) ========== Trolling on Twitter is the only acceptable fight the GOPe allows. Unless your name is Trump, of course. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 11:19 AM (LvTSG) 44
Hey, now I know why Biden did the tuition give away. He knew he couldn’t print moar money cuz the Feds said no. No one will see a dime of that money but he tried.
Posted by: Head puddi at August 26, 2022 11:19 AM (Bnf8w) 45
still waiting on information on ultra secret nuclear secret secrets that Joe Scarabaraoighg said trump had and was offering to sell "to our enemies"
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 11:19 AM (OuH7W) 46
I promise I won't believe a single word in the so-called affadavit
Posted by: DB at August 26, 2022 11:19 AM (geLO8) 47
In a shocking move that signaled its full support for stopping President Trump from running in 2024, Fox News published an opinion piece by Democrat lawyer Bradley Moss which claimed the FBI’s raid on Mar-a-Lago was legal and justified.
Fuck Fox News. Fuck Tucker for staying with them. Fuck Guttfeld and all of his assclowns. Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2022 11:19 AM (m7R0k) 48
The affidavit had information that could have led to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 26, 2022 11:19 AM (wUHYj) 49
Remember the Tarmac Meeting?
Veteran Alabama reporter and anchor Christopher Sign, who previously worked in Phoenix for more than a decade, was found dead by the local Hoover police Saturday morning, according to Hoover Police Department Capt. Keith Czeskleba. Posted by: rhennigantx ___ Tying up loose ends. Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (JD3FJ) 50
there may be...and I'm just spit balling here...a need for a special counsel to fuck up these FBI rogue units
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (OuH7W) 51
You guys wait for the affidavit. I'm waiting for Godot.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (FVME7) 52
It looks like the date was not redacted, but everything else was.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (lTGtQ) 53
It's gonna be like this yootoob clip from Chernobyl that I watched last night. https://youtu.be/Gmw_wxx4WGo?t=110 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (n+4am) 54
What is this redacted shit? This is not a national security issue, it's all theater. Full disclosure!
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (KD5bY) 55
The guy with the Sharpie slept in today.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (89T5c) 56
Just learned this morning that one of my oldest friends died of throat cancer on Wednesday.
Sadly, his son is Gabriel Sterling, who helped steal the election from Trump in GA. I remember meeting Gabe when he was an idealistic Young Republican in college. His dad and stepmom were so proud of him. Now, he's convinced our Atlanta Trump friends that Trump is the devil. Anyhow, I'm so sad for our friend and his widow. RIP. Off to work out with my trainer. Will have to deal with the grief later. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (ptqGC) 57
WOW, I appreciate these SICK BURNS by the GOP while the country circles the shitter!
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (rW60C) 58
Rejoice!
Only one more week until Allahpundit is booted from Hot Gas! I wonder if his final post will be announcing that The Great Ukrainian Kherson Counteroffensive is imminent - for the 200th time. Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2022 11:21 AM (I2/tG) 59
I'm waiting for my man
Twenty-six dollars in my hand Up to Lexington, one, two, five Feel sick and dirty, more dead than alive I'm waiting for my man Posted by: mr tmz at August 26, 2022 11:21 AM (rJ48h) 60
speaking of fbi rogue units, what happened to gavin mcginnis
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 11:21 AM (OuH7W) 61
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (JD3FJ)
Just like anything these days can give you a stroke. Apparently Arkancide also can strike anywhere! Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 26, 2022 11:21 AM (Ix++l) 62
1. Come on judge.
2. I mean c'mon. Wherefore, the United States respectfully requests warrant to issue to search Mar-A-Lago /s/ US attorney S. Dist Fla. Posted by: Ted Torgerson at August 26, 2022 11:21 AM (vN+oL) 63
Just like anything these days can give you a stroke. Apparently Arkancide also can strike anywhere!
Posted by: thathalfrican ___ Yep. Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (JD3FJ) 64
Now the DOJ is claiming their internet went down; oops we're gonna miss the deadline.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (JOtiF) 65
i just discovered how hot Tomi Lahren is. holy cow.
Posted by: joe fingerblaster at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (SWHSV) 66
Only semi-fascists care about the affidavit!
Posted by: The MSM! at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (I2/tG) 67
In the meantime Jared says he might never die. https://tinyurl.com/4s4ptcjd
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (Zzbjj) 68
Remember the Tarmac Meeting?
Veteran Alabama reporter and anchor Christopher Sign, who previously worked in Phoenix for more than a decade, was found dead by the local Hoover police Saturday morning Posted by: rhennigantx ___ Tying up loose ends. Posted by: SMH He had information that would lead to the non-election of Hillary Clinton. Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (lTGtQ) 69
@51
>>You guys wait for the affidavit. I'm waiting for Godot. Gadot never actually showed up, we are going to get and near total black paper and a middle finger. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (+ZemB) 70
You guys wait for the affidavit. I'm waiting for Godot.
----------------- My Dinner with Redacted. Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 26, 2022 11:23 AM (yikp0) 71
Posted by: joe fingerblaster at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (SWHSV)
I haven’t followed her in awhile but she, back in the day, was a low IQ individual. But yeah she’s fine AF Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 26, 2022 11:23 AM (Ix++l) 72
In the meantime Jared says he might never die. https://tinyurl.com/4s4ptcjd
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (Zzbjj) OK then. Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 11:23 AM (DRSnL) 73
I don't think they'll release anything. At least, not today. They may postpone it indefinitely.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 26, 2022 11:23 AM (BdMk6) 74
They actually redacted the reasons for their redactions. Hopefully even the dumbest of Democrats will start to see how much of a scam this is.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 11:23 AM (jZYv/) 75
Gonna need another 6 months to redact.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (j7Bnb) 76
@65
>>i just discovered how hot Tomi Lahren is. holy cow. There's four miles of legs on Outnumbered today. Lahren is a smokeshow. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (+ZemB) 77
26 Biden: If We Win In November, We’re Banning Assault Weapons…
https://tinyurl.com/c5hacrjn Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:17 AM (4/66f) ******** That's why they're training IRS agents. They will give them the authority to confiscate them. Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (NpAcC) 78
I TOLD YOU THE DOG WAS HUNGRY !!
Posted by: DOJ at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (us2H3) 79
72 he's gonna be immortal. Delusional trust fund brat
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (Zzbjj) 80
The truck is on the way. We have printed 340,000 pages responsive to your request.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (j7Bnb) 81
Gonna need another 6 months to redact.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (j7Bnb) The pandemic strikes again. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (yQpMk) 82
IQ?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (HJDAV) 83
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (Zzbjj)
Keep this fucker out of the White House and anyone in his orbit. Definitely smells like WEF. Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (Ix++l) 84
49 Remember the Tarmac Meeting?
Veteran Alabama reporter and anchor Christopher Sign, who previously worked in Phoenix for more than a decade, was found dead by the local Hoover police Saturday morning, according to Hoover Police Department Capt. Keith Czeskleba. Posted by: rhennigantx ___ Tying up loose ends. Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (JD3FJ) Being investigated as a suicide. Go figure. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (b2nrj) 85
Fetterman isn't a Murderer-American, but he passes for one.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (44ww/) 86
In other news, black sharpies will be in short supply for the next few months.
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (FF+On) 87
Not sure why they don't want to release this.. it's gotta be full of bad things about Trump .. Made up of course
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:25 AM (bs+z0) 88
I'll appear before Congress, but only if I get to write all the questions beforehand.
Posted by: God-King Tony Fauci! at August 26, 2022 11:25 AM (I2/tG) 89
83. That was my thought
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:25 AM (Zzbjj) 90
is anything left un-blacked other than the 1200 instances of "OrangeManBad"?
Posted by: Gref at August 26, 2022 11:25 AM (AMIL/) 91
Who runs the House Judiciary GOP Twitter account? Someone there learned to troll. Posted by: Martini Farmer What's the over/under on that clever GOP intern being frogmarched out of the building within the hour? Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 26, 2022 11:25 AM (n+4am) 92
In the meantime Jared says he might never die. https://tinyurl.com/4s4ptcjd
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (Zzbjj) The power of footlongs? Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:25 AM (yQpMk) 93
82 IQ?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (HJDAV) ------- Not for me, thanks. I never touch the stuff. Posted by: 496 at August 26, 2022 11:25 AM (VJsqe) 94
Republicans are waiting for the affidavit too. That way they can make a quick statement for the peasantry, which they can point to in the future as a sign of their support, and to also satiate Trump's ego, so he won't go after them.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:25 AM (mSy8I) 95
They actually redacted the reasons for their redactions. Hopefully even the dumbest of Democrats will start to see how much of a scam this is.
Posted by: Rbastid Fat chance. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2022 11:26 AM (89T5c) 96
That's why they're training IRS agents. They will give them the authority to confiscate them.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (NpAcC) They better be damned good shots... Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:26 AM (bs+z0) 97
"FBI" and "affidavit" seem mutually exclusive.
The idea any sort of affidavit produced by the FBI is considered good enough for a search warrant, these days, is laughable. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 11:26 AM (5pTK/) 98
Now the DOJ is claiming their internet went down; oops we're gonna miss the deadline.
Does the DOJ have a dog? Posted by: Oddbob at August 26, 2022 11:26 AM (nfrXX) 99
41 By the way... When should we expect the name/names of the leakers in the Supreme Court ?
Posted by: It's me donna --------------------------- Roberts doesn't want a mess on his watch. He will sweep it under the rug. Likely a clerk did it claiming instructions from a justice to do so which would involve a pissing match and air dirty court laundry. It could also involve a clerk and/or justice leaking to the WH who then leaked it to the media. That is what institutions and the media do is smother stories with a pillow until they stop moving. If it was a conservative justice or clerk for one, we would have probably gotten a perp walk given this administration. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:26 AM (CXr4y) 100
A dumpster fire of a farrago of lies, that is the FBI.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2022 11:26 AM (4cCz1) 101
They’ll just release the Sumerian cuneiform version. No need to redact anything.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 11:26 AM (cfHgC) 102
Just like anything these days can give you a stroke. Apparently Arkancide also can strike anywhere!
------------------- Tell me about it! Posted by: zombie Jovenel Moïse at August 26, 2022 11:26 AM (yikp0) 103
This is not news, it's infotainment. We all know it's going to be some corrupt farce, all the way to whatever grubby, dismal little conclusion it eventually reaches. DoJ corruption is just part of our quotidian soap opera. That said, I am looking forward to this episode of "Waning Days of our Lives." It oughta be a funny one. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2022 11:26 AM (uaLxw) 104
92 the power of endless organ donors? I have no idea, but the belief sounds sinister and contrary to orthodox views.
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (Zzbjj) 105
85 Fetterman isn't a Murderer-American, but he passes for one.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (44ww/) I'm the hottest man on Qo'noS Posted by: Fetterman at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (us2H3) 106
SturmToddler in the previous thread had a plausible affidavit version.
"Trump... xxx Russia ... XXXX ... GUILTY ..." Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (FF+On) 107
I'm sure it's a total coinky-dink that this bullshit gets dropped on a Friday afternoon heading into one of the last weekends of the summer
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (iFTx/) 108
this is funny
Nearly 100 Republicans demand Pelosi hold Biden accountable for $500B student debt handout Posted by: DB at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (geLO8) 109
Posted by: joe fingerblaster at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (SWHSV)
I haven’t followed her in awhile but she, back in the day, was a low IQ individual. But yeah she’s fine AF Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 26, 2022 11:23 AM (Ix++l) ******* She's on Outnumbered today. Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (NpAcC) 110
the affidavit will spell out how a president cannot legally declassify anything if he didn't win the popular vote.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (Ynyl9) 111
Short Republicans; "This is an outrage and distortion of our justice system about which we will do nothing because we are effeminate cowards in the mold of David French, only more limp.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (mSy8I) 112
Now the DOJ is claiming their internet went down; oops we're gonna miss the deadline.
Posted by: GnuBreed My Internet-connected robot dog ate my homework! Honest! Posted by: DoJ atwerk at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (AD/9l) 113
Their cat must have peed on their modem.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (HJDAV) 114
That redaction is HI-larious. And about as informative as the real one will be.
Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (ep37o) 115
Tying up loose ends.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (JD3FJ) Being investigated as a suicide. Go figure. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy --------------------------- Another Arkancide. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (CXr4y) 116
Linear B for the win
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (4cCz1) 117
There's not going to be anything meaningful in the affidavit. Just like how Colonel Jessup altered the logs at Andrews AFB; the Democrats know how to sidestep a few landmines.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at August 26, 2022 11:28 AM (Oj91u) 118
Hmmm. Guy found dead by Hoover police. Maybe J. Edgar. Or maybe Hoover as in let's Hoover this up. Wonder where the Arkansas State Police Governor's Protection Duty Retirees Bowling League was.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 26, 2022 11:28 AM (lz5hY) 119
108 this is funny
Nearly 100 Republicans demand Pelosi hold Biden accountable for $500B student debt handout Posted by: DB at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (geLO Pelosi hold Biden? What? The? Actual? Fuck? Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 11:28 AM (HJDAV) Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:28 AM (yQpMk) 121
Hey, mon. Haiti has no black diamonds!
Posted by: zombie Jovenel Moise at August 26, 2022 11:28 AM (yikp0) Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:28 AM (us2H3) 123
the affidavit will also demonstate that a president cannot legally declassify anything if he was permanently banned from twitter.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 26, 2022 11:29 AM (Ynyl9) 124
The affadavit will state, unequivocally, that Trump is a poopy-face, and that's why the Virtuous Agents had to raid him.
Posted by: Caliban at August 26, 2022 11:29 AM (HgGBT) 125
39 Remember the Tarmac Meeting?
Veteran Alabama reporter and anchor Christopher Sign, who previously worked in Phoenix for more than a decade, was found dead by the local Hoover police Saturday morning, according to Hoover Police Department Capt. Keith Czeskleba. Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2022 11:18 AM (BRHaw) "death appeared to be a suicide"--uh oh... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:29 AM (ynpvh) 126
This was a US Stove Rancher. $613 but can't be sold on the West Coast.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at August 26, 2022 11:29 AM (5HBd1) 127
112 they already used waterline break
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:29 AM (Zzbjj) 128
You guys wait for the affidavit. I'm waiting for Godot.
Gadot never actually showed up, we are going to get and near total black paper and a middle finger. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 11:22 AM (+ZemB) Yeah, wait for Gal Gadot. You'll get the same result. Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2022 11:30 AM (7AuFP) 129
Affidavit is 38 pages long
Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 11:30 AM (NpAcC) 130
99 41 By the way... When should we expect the name/names of the leakers in the Supreme Court ?
Posted by: It's me donna --------------------------- Roberts doesn't want a mess on his watch. He will sweep it under the rug. Likely a clerk did it claiming instructions from a justice to do so which would involve a pissing match and air dirty court laundry. It could also involve a clerk and/or justice leaking to the WH who then leaked it to the media. That is what institutions and the media do is smother stories with a pillow until they stop moving. If it was a conservative justice or clerk for one, we would have probably gotten a perp walk given this administration. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:26 AM (CXr4y) The leak and the (maybe) search for the culprit will be permanently filed in the Media Black Hole a day after the SCOTUS session begins this October. Posted by: Gref at August 26, 2022 11:30 AM (AMIL/) 131
Biden's poll numbers jumped 6 points in one month per Gallup Polling
Posted by: Forrest gump at August 26, 2022 11:30 AM (UgSvo) 132
Reporting on Outnumbered now.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 11:30 AM (NpAcC) 133
Has there been any word when Sen. Miss Lindsey will be on FOX to do his angry act before going for his daily steam bath and massage?
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 11:30 AM (FF+On) 134
Yeah, wait for Gal Gadot. You'll get the same result.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2022 11:30 AM (7AuFP) Might still be worth it. Smoky. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 11:31 AM (HJDAV) 135
What a fucking joke. The brief explaining why the DOJ wants all the redactions has been released and it's full of redactions.
https://tinyurl.com/55f3b32h Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:31 AM (ZLI7S) 136
We are at this juncture because the weak Republicans still refuse to talk about the very material, truthful and easily identifiable illegality in the last election. Because someone might call them names. Ergo, it's free reign for Democrats to do whatever they want, and it's all inconsequential.
We will pay for their pusillanimity in the midterms. Bank on it. Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:31 AM (mSy8I) 137
131 Biden's poll numbers jumped 6 points in one month per Gallup Polling
Posted by: Forrest gump at August 26, 2022 11:30 AM (UgSvo) Which one? "Do You Believe Joe should not run in 2024"? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:31 AM (ynpvh) 138
At least the House GOP has a sense of humor. No backbone, but they like a little laugh every now and again.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2022 11:31 AM (y95Pb) 139
115 Tying up loose ends.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:20 AM (JD3FJ) Being investigated as a suicide. Go figure. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy --------------------------- Another Arkancide. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:27 AM (CXr4y) It looks like we had 2 in 2017 and this is the only other one since then? Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 26, 2022 11:31 AM (b2nrj) 140
131. Twitter donks are thrilled with the debt cancelation.
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:32 AM (Zzbjj) 141
Yeah, I think I'll skip this thread. Trying to stay as happy as a miserable, cynical bastard like me can be.
**looks at clock** 2 1/2 hours before I can drink. Uggggghhhh. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2022 11:32 AM (AW0uW) 142
133 Has there been any word when Sen. Miss Lindsey will be on FOX to do his angry act before going for his daily steam bath and massage?
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 11:30 AM (FF+On) Just be sure you run if he asks you whether you want to see his bug collection. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 11:32 AM (HJDAV) 143
re 111: should be "Short Republicans: "This is an outrage and distortion of our justice system about which we will do nothing unless we can raise enough money from our strongest supporters. Suggested donation: $25." "
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 26, 2022 11:32 AM (Ynyl9) 144
Has Brett Baier twisted his panties yet and told us what a terrible thing it is to not trust the DoJ?
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:32 AM (mSy8I) 145
Dammit, why won’t DDG let me do an image search of Tomi Lahren?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 11:32 AM (cfHgC) 146
Nearly 100 Republicans demand Pelosi hold Biden accountable for $500B student debt handout
Meaning what, exactly? Posted by: Oddbob at August 26, 2022 11:32 AM (nfrXX) 147
144 Has Brett Baier twisted his panties yet and told us what a terrible thing it is to not trust the DoJ?
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:32 AM (mSy8I) Every day Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:32 AM (bs+z0) 148
Twitter donks are thrilled with the debt cancelation.
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:32 AM (Zzbjj) It's aimed at the laptop class and basement dwellers so it hit its mark. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (yQpMk) Posted by: Hank Johnson at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (a3Q+t) 150
131 Posted by: Forrest gump at August 26, 2022 11:30 AM (UgSvo)
========= Polling said Hillary would win PA by 11 back in August of 2016. How'd that work out? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (LvTSG) 151
Penn Wharton has released their analysis of how much Biden's college loan bailout will cost. 1 trillion dollars.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (ZLI7S) Posted by: spindrift at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (h5TKJ) 153
1. ORANGE MAN BAD!
2. TRUMP IS A DOODY HEAD. The general search any and all illegal warrant is issued. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (u4CEu) 154
I would give the GOP money of they had a set of balls. But apparently they can't find them with a map, flashlight, GPS and directions.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (mSy8I) 155
>2 1/2 hours before I can drink. Uggggghhhh.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing as the song says, it's 5 o'clock somewhere Posted by: DB at August 26, 2022 11:34 AM (geLO8) 156
151 Penn Wharton has released their analysis of how much Biden's college loan bailout will cost. 1 trillion dollars.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (ZLI7S) ======= Fuck it. Do it. Collapse the fucker. No real reform will happen before that. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 11:34 AM (LvTSG) 157
Polling said Hillary would win PA by 11 back in August of 2016.
How'd that work out? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (LvTSG) ---------- Well, Gallup was cited. Which sort of kills an semblance of the poll being based in reality. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 11:34 AM (5pTK/) 158
They have to hide the names of the people accusing Trump... That's outrageous.. He should be able to know his accusers
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:34 AM (bs+z0) 159
as the song says, it's 5 o'clock somewhere
Posted by: DB at August 26, 2022 11:34 AM (geLO The Sun is abaft the beam here. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:34 AM (yQpMk) 160
someone left the affidavit out in the rain
Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 26, 2022 11:34 AM (sGtp+) 161
college loan bailout will cost. 1 trillion dollars.
Posted by: JackStraw That number is rising faster than inflation. Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 26, 2022 11:34 AM (lTGtQ) 162
It looks like we had 2 in 2017 and this is the only other one since then?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy ------------------ Depends on if you count Epstein affiliated deaths as Arkancides like Epstein's early Ponzi partner. Also see the curious case recently of Arkancided Mark Middleton in Arkansas who was a former Clinton aide this year. Was hanging himself and at the same time shot himself with a shotgun on a farmer's property with no apparent association with the guy. Ruled a suicide. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:35 AM (CXr4y) 163
145 Dammit, why won’t DDG let me do an image search of Tomi Lahren?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 11:32 AM (cfHgC) Heh. There used to be a site called DDG. It was short for Digital Dream Girls. It was more kind of glamour, but of busty gals. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 11:35 AM (HJDAV) 164
I'm waitin' for a man
But he hasn't shown I'm on the corner freezin' Through my bones Gimme one more week I'll make good that loan To that woman, up in the house of stone. Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 26, 2022 11:35 AM (wUHYj) 165
157 Well, Gallup was cited. Which sort of kills an semblance of the poll being based in reality.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 11:34 AM (5pTK/) =========== Remember when Gallup stopped doing regular presidential polling because they said they couldn't get enough responses for good results? Yeah... Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG) 166
Veteran Alabama reporter and anchor Christopher Sign, who previously worked in Phoenix for more than a decade, was found dead by the local Hoover police Saturday morning, according to Hoover Police Department Capt. Keith Czeskleba. Posted by: rhennigantx That one's old - the Clintons murdered him at least a year back. Suicide, of course. After he made several public statements saying that if he "committed suicide" it was fake and that he'd been murdered, and that he was being menaced by shadowy people, and warning them that he was armed, and his family had an escape plan in place. That was a good 'un. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2022 11:35 AM (uaLxw) 167
Something is wrong - Stephen Green hasn't put up his daily "Russia is losing" post on HotGas yet.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2022 11:35 AM (I2/tG) 168
"death appeared to be a suicide"--uh oh...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:29 AM (ynpvh) Hahahahahahaha Posted by: Jeffrey Epstein at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (qwO6y) 169
Well the country I grew up in is dead. Garland has made this a fascist state in order to prevent fascist Trump from killing minorities. Of course he knows better, but he wants power. We often wondered who was behind Obama. Was it Jarrett, Axerlrod, Rice? Probably Garland was in from the start. He is a lawless man
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (Zzbjj) 170
Piglet Ronna Romney no longer posts on truth social. I guess she didn't like what the great unwashed base was telling her.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (m7R0k) 171
138 At least the House GOP has a sense of humor. No backbone, but they like a little laugh every now and again.
Posted by: Huck Follywood It's a clown world after all. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (CXr4y) 172
The Sun is abaft the beam here.
Doesn't that depend on which way the boat is pointed? Ooooh, I see where you're going with this. Posted by: Oddbob at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (nfrXX) 173
LOL at the "redacted" affadavit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (hCgp1) 174
What a fucking joke. The brief explaining why the DOJ wants all the redactions has been released and it's full of redactions.
https://tinyurl.com/55f3b32h Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:31 AM (ZLI7S) ++++ HAHAHAHAHA. Excellent. The rationale on page 7 is awesome: Meanwhile, FBI agents who have been publicly identified in connection with this investigation have received threats of violence from members of the public. Exposure of witness' identities would likely erode their trust in the government's investigation, and it would almost certainly chill other potential witnesses from coming forward in this investigation and others. "Safety and trust require us to disclose nothing." Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (WWh8n) 175
Andrew McCarthy said on Faux News affidavit prolly trustworthy. Because unlike FISA court where everything is secret, an affidavit in criminal case can be made public in the "discovery" process. Or something like that.
Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (Dtk8d) 176
re 135: but it still looks like they want to charge Trump with some sort of criminal acts.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (Ynyl9) 177
38 pages of redacted reasons for redacting -- the baffle'em with bullshit plan
Posted by: micky at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (3byMq) 178
Holy Shit, the old emanitizing investigations based on news reports!!!!
This is f**king bullsh*t. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 11:37 AM (+ZemB) 179
160 I'll never have the recipe again!
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:37 AM (Zzbjj) 180
169 Well the country I grew up in is dead. Garland has made this a fascist state in order to prevent fascist Trump from killing minorities. Of course he knows better, but he wants power. We often wondered who was behind Obama. Was it Jarrett, Axerlrod, Rice? Probably Garland was in from the start. He is a lawless man
Posted by: CN --------------------- Follow the money--all of the politicians and apparatchiks answer to other oligarchs. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:37 AM (CXr4y) 181
Re. rhennigantx Tarmac Meeting: ||"Always hopeful. Always encouraging. Always honest. Always inspiring. ALWAYS a REAL friend," ABC15 anchor Kaley O'Kelley posted.
"He taught me so much about life in & out of the newsroom," ABC15 anchor Danielle Lerner wrote. "He was an incredibly talented and dedicated journalist... but more importantly, was a devoted husband, father and friend." Sign is survived by his wife and three sons. Hoover police received a call around 8 a.m. of a person down, found Sign and pronounced him dead, according to Czeskleba. Police said his death appeared to be a suicide.|| Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 26, 2022 11:37 AM (yikp0) 182
175 Andrew McCarthy said on Faux News affidavit prolly trustworthy. Because unlike FISA court where everything is secret, an affidavit in criminal case can be made public in the "discovery" process. Or something like that.
Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (Dtk8d) ========= That anyone says, with a straight face, that federal prosecutors are ethical is depressing. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (LvTSG) 183
161 college loan bailout will cost. 1 trillion dollars.
Posted by: JackStraw processed by the Big Dig Machine 4 trillion Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (us2H3) 184
151 Penn Wharton has released their analysis of how much Biden's college loan bailout will cost. 1 trillion dollars.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (ZLI7S) I might - might - be able to get behind this if the government loan program bent the cost curve like Obamacare was supposed to with the healthcare system. It failed with O-Care, however, and they won't even try with higher education. Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (7AuFP) 185
Republicans had their typical performative moment when they wrote to Pelosi and begged for her help on rolling back the unconstitutional student loan debt cancellation which usurps the Congresses authority. That's their substitute to filing and defending a lawsuit. That's the GOP in a nutshell.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (mSy8I) Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (yQpMk) 187
LOL they redacted the sentence that says the GSA sent these documents to Trump in the first place. Ha.
Posted by: No one at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (CQ3Qb) 188
What a fucking joke. The brief explaining why the DOJ wants all the redactions has been released and it's full of redactions.
https://tinyurl.com/55f3b32h Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:31 AM (ZLI7S) ++++ Every single quote from the affidavit is entirely redacted from what I have seen. Hilarious. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (WWh8n) 189
Oh great, the affidavit is citing a CBS news report about some moving trucks at Mar-a-Lago as a reason for "The Raid on Mar-a-Lago" (tm, pat pending).
So, the DOJ/FBI, once again, leaked some crap to CBS and then used that to get a search warrant. Why, it is FISA all over again. Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (FF+On) 190
Meanwhile, FBI agents who have been publicly identified in connection with this investigation have received threats of violence from members of the public. Exposure of witness' identities would likely erode their trust in the government's investigation, and it would almost certainly chill other potential witnesses from coming forward in this investigation and others.
"Safety and trust require us to disclose nothing." Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (WWh8n) ------------- Orwell would be simultaneously horrified and proud of that double speak. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (5pTK/) Posted by: In fairness at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (Xrfse) 192
The only words not redacted will be affidavit, Trump and the date it was issued.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:39 AM (Map75) 193
Two bon mots from DU for your amusement:
1- A political cartoons, with a Biden "I Did That" sticker, pointing to a list of accomplishments, including: lowering gas prices, killing a 9/11 terrorist, consumer prices down, inflation reduction and pact acts passed 2-Jesus's miracle of loaves & fishes was a slap to all the people who brought their own lunch. Sick burn, all you christo-fascists! Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at August 26, 2022 11:39 AM (RGbzo) 194
So they put the "boxes" of "secret" documents in the bingo room. I'm sure Trump did it all single-handedly.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2022 11:39 AM (KD5bY) 195
In fairness, it's overrated.
Sigh. I've barely recovered from yesterday. Posted by: In fairness at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (Xrfse) Proper hydration is the key to endurance. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:39 AM (yQpMk) 196
162 It looks like we had 2 in 2017 and this is the only other one since then?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy ------------------ Depends on if you count Epstein affiliated deaths as Arkancides like Epstein's early Ponzi partner. Also see the curious case recently of Arkancided Mark Middleton in Arkansas who was a former Clinton aide this year. Was hanging himself and at the same time shot himself with a shotgun on a farmer's property with no apparent association with the guy. Ruled a suicide. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:35 AM (CXr4y) Mark Middleton would count, I hadn't heard about him. Epstein related ones are fuzzier since it could plausibly be other people. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 26, 2022 11:39 AM (b2nrj) 197
So they relied on new reports of moving vans at Mar A Lago ? Seriously ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:40 AM (bs+z0) 198
182 175 Andrew McCarthy said on Faux News affidavit prolly trustworthy. Because unlike FISA court where everything is secret, an affidavit in criminal case can be made public in the "discovery" process. Or something like that.
Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 26, 2022 11:36 AM (Dtk8d) ========= That anyone says, with a straight face, that federal prosecutors are ethical is depressing. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (LvTSG) Depends what "ethical" means, and what they're being ethical about. I mean, if you are bribed, and you don't go through with the reason you were bribed, that would be unethical, no? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:40 AM (ynpvh) 199
The judge who signed the warrant approved the redactions. That should pretty much tell you what's coming. Trump's lawyers should already have the appeal written.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:40 AM (mSy8I) 200
Redaction is the word of the day!
Posted by: huerfano at August 26, 2022 11:40 AM (dTFZY) 201
Garland has made this a fascist state in order to prevent fascist Trump from killing minorities.
----- I disagree. This has been an authoritarian Leftist regime for many years. Garland isn't responsible for it, at least not any more than Roland Freisler or Lavrentiy Beria were in their countries. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2022 11:40 AM (uaLxw) 202
175 Andrew McCarthy said on Faux News affidavit prolly trustworthy. Because unlike FISA court where everything is secret, an affidavit in criminal case can be made public in the "discovery" process. Or something like that.
Posted by: olddog ---------------- Why even watch Fox, let along McCarthy? I could tell you what slobbering wet kiss that McCarthy would give to the DOJ and FBI before he opened his mouth. Want a decent take on it, read Technofog or Sundance and turn off the TV. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:40 AM (CXr4y) 203
185 Republicans had their typical performative moment when they wrote to Pelosi and begged for her help on rolling back the unconstitutional student loan debt cancellation which usurps the Congresses authority. That's their substitute to filing and defending a lawsuit. That's the GOP in a nutshell.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:38 AM (mSy8I) send $100 Asap so in 202never we can do more to stop this. Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:40 AM (Map75) 204
Penn Wharton has released their analysis of how much Biden's college loan bailout will cost. 1 trillion dollars.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (ZLI7S) Hmmm. Pretty soon you're talking real money. Posted by: zombie Everett Dirksen at August 26, 2022 11:40 AM (h5TKJ) 205
Trump needs to invoke the Sandy Burger defense.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2022 11:41 AM (4cCz1) 206
Why even watch Fox, let along McCarthy? I could tell you what slobbering wet kiss that McCarthy would give to the DOJ and FBI before he opened his mouth. Want a decent take on it, read Technofog or Sundance and turn off the TV.
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:40 AM (CXr4y) this man knows Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:41 AM (us2H3) Posted by: JT at August 26, 2022 11:41 AM (T4tVD) 208
Bend it? They are going to jack prices way above even the inflationary pressure. Why shouldn't they? And people will pay it because they expect the government to pay for their school.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 11:41 AM (HJDAV) 209
You want our affidavit? Well, here it is Proles, and you can post it in the camp lunch room for all we care.
https://tinyurl.com/yy27memp Posted by: Lavrenti Garland at August 26, 2022 11:41 AM (y95Pb) 210
151 Penn Wharton has released their analysis of how much Biden's college loan bailout will cost. 1 trillion dollars.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (ZLI7S) That's peanuts compared to the money the Junta will demand the day after the mid-terms, for - Electricity bill subsidies for everyone - Heating oil subsidies for everyone using it - Food subsidies for everyone - Purchasing natural gas, heating oil, propane, wheat, corn, soybeans, and cooking oil to give away as foreign aid The Junta's reason for each will be PUTIN'S WAR! Posted by: Gref at August 26, 2022 11:41 AM (AMIL/) Posted by: mrp at August 26, 2022 11:41 AM (6eRlp) 212
What happened to releasing the footage of the raid?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:42 AM (Map75) 213
so... re '1984'
how will the world be divided? China will rule much of that side of the world, they'll let Putin control Europe and the northern part of Africa, and we get to have Canada and South America (the hat and socks of the US), except for the parts that the world superpower China wants. yeah, maybe I can get work taking words out of the dictionary. we know that two way televisions are no longer a fantasy. Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 26, 2022 11:42 AM (Ynyl9) 214
So they relied on new reports of moving vans at Mar A Lago ? Seriously ? Posted by: It's me donna
That is what one of the talking heads on FOX reported. Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 11:42 AM (FF+On) Posted by: Michelle Fields at August 26, 2022 11:42 AM (Xrfse) 216
193 Two bon mots from DU for your amusement:
1- A political cartoons, with a Biden "I Did That" sticker, pointing to a list of accomplishments, including: lowering gas prices, killing a 9/11 terrorist, consumer prices down, inflation reduction and pact acts passed 2-Jesus's miracle of loaves & fishes was a slap to all the people who brought their own lunch. Sick burn, all you christo-fascists! Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at August 26, 2022 11:39 AM (RGbzo) Unlike the Gov't, when Jesus was done, there were 12 basketfuls of food left over. Gov't just leaves you holding the basket. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:42 AM (ynpvh) 217
Sean Davis
DOJ and FBI are so corrupt that they're redacting their reasons for redactions in their justification for raiding a U.S. president's home. However much contempt you have for these lawless agencies, it's not nearly enough. Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 11:42 AM (NpAcC) 218
That "Judge" should be impeached
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:42 AM (bs+z0) 219
180 So Gates and Soros put Garland in charge. What they don't realize is that the Garland type will purge them and take everything they have. The oligarchs are few, the commies plentiful.
I used to think the oligarchs were in total control. Now I'm less sure. The people they're using to front their agenda will show them they're not needed. French Revolution will ensue. Let them eat bugs is a bad look. Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:42 AM (Zzbjj) 220
@199
>>Trump's lawyers should already have the appeal written. Well, reading between the lines since the PRA does not have criminal penalties associated with it, they are going to use their old standby of process crimes to bang up at least Trumps lawyers. This sh*t is never going to end. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 11:42 AM (+ZemB) 221
Affidavit in my nick from Politico
Posted by: Baldy at August 26, 2022 11:42 AM (pcySi) 222
Citizen, have you not learned? Spending $1T will reduce inflation.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (Map75) Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (89T5c) 224
Being investigated as a suicide. Go figure.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 26, 2022 11:24 AM (b2nrj) Did he hang, shoot, and poison himself while at the bottom of the lake with an anvil chained to his ass? Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (hCgp1) 225
Don't waste your time reading it. They have literally redacted everything other than conclusory statements. There is not one whit of factual information/allegation contained in what has been released.
It is a joke. Posted by: Leeotis at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (Gs2F2) 226
The affidavit (I read it) states on page 4 that Executive Order 13526 makes it illegal for DJT to have certain papers. This order was signed in late December of 2021, by Biden.
It's a bill of attainder. Posted by: gourmand du jour, the edge of dampness at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (jTmQV) 227
Seriously, the only thing redacted in this image is a sentence to the effect of " which were sent to you by the GSA"
https://tinyurl.com/kert69cd Posted by: No one at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (CQ3Qb) 228
Yeah my guess was correct. At least some of those documents may have resulted in the exposure of our human spies. THE most oddly held of all secrets. I wonder how much they would be worth to Putin ?
Posted by: Forrest gump at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (UgSvo) 229
I would support a raid on mar a lago to obtain all copies of jareds new book that ivanka keeps emailing me about.
Posted by: Eli Cash at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (mAbW3) 230
Sean Davis
DOJ and FBI are so corrupt that they're redacting their reasons for redactions in their justification for raiding a U.S. president's home. However much contempt you have for these lawless agencies, it's not nearly enough. Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 11:42 AM (NpAcC ++++ The answer to the age-old question of "who redacts the redactors" has been answered! Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (WWh8n) 231
Penn Wharton has released their analysis of how much Biden's college loan bailout will cost. 1 trillion dollars. Posted by: JackStraw
None of this will be a problem until there is currency paper shortage. Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (FF+On) Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (4cCz1) 233
Baliff! Whack his pee-pee!
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (KD5bY) 234
Newsmax just showed the copy. Blackout.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (BdMk6) 235
211 Here comes the
Order in the court 'Cause here comes the Posted by: mrp at August 26, 2022 11:41 AM (6eRlp) FIFY Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (ynpvh) 236
"The affidavit (I read it) states on page 4 that Executive Order 13526 makes it illegal for DJT to have certain papers. This order was signed in late December of 2021, by Biden.
It's a bill of attainder. Posted by: gourmand du jour, the edge of dampness at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (jTmQV)" Good God. They've gone full anarchy. Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (mSy8I) 237
DAMN!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (ynpvh) 238
Fixed?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (uaLxw) 239
Posted by: gourmand du jour, the edge of dampness at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM (jTmQV)
I don't think Biden has that power Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (bs+z0) 240
in fairness redacted bellwether
Posted by: DB at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (geLO8) 241
Lol this country is a fucking joke
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (Ix++l) 242
damn
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (ynpvh) 243
Affidavit pdf in nick
Posted by: Baldy at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (pcySi) 244
138 At least the House GOP has a sense of humor. No backbone, but they like a little laugh every now and again.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2022 11:31 AM (y95Pb) They're laughing at us Posted by: Bandana Dee at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (0nTN1) 245
CBS chyron: redacted affadavit in Mar-A-Lago search unsealed.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (HJDAV) 246
Okay barrel time.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:45 AM (ynpvh) 247
Moderna Sues Pfizer, BioNTech Over COVID Vaccines
So villains can't be trusted to not backstab each other over money. Who knew? Also, "Spikevax"? Great name their guys. Finally, why the hell can they sue each other for patent infringement (and my memory is Modern had a failed mRNA drug long, long before COVID) and we can't sue them for killing people? Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2022 11:45 AM (ESjRY) 248
I like how one of the justifications they are using is "Trump improperly stored documents"
Did he email them to world renowned pervert Anthony Weiner? Because i know someone who did and we were told that was okay since it was just an oopsie by a grandmother who didn't understand clarifications. Was storing them in MAL more risky than sending them to John Podesta, a man running a private intelligence agency, and who is believed to be the idiot who answered a phishing email? Because again that wasd just meemaw's mistake. Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 11:45 AM (jZYv/) 249
Yeah my guess was correct. At least some of those documents may have resulted in the exposure of our human spies.
Correct and May don't work together, unless you are on Oak Island, Dunce. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:45 AM (yQpMk) 250
Indeed, where is the video? Is that going to be taken too?
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:45 AM (Zzbjj) 251
On a lighter note, the guy across the way is walking the pair of Chiweenies. Most entertaining little dogs I have ever seen.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 26, 2022 11:45 AM (lz5hY) 252
wait till the Dems take back the Supreme Court and Chief Justice Kagan Kaganovitch orders Trump held without bail pending his removal for trial at the Hague.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 26, 2022 11:45 AM (Ynyl9) 253
Lol this country is a fucking joke Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (Ix++l) Now, this guy gets it. Laughter is the best medicine, in this case. It's also the only one. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2022 11:45 AM (uaLxw) 254
I would give the GOP money of they had a set of balls. But apparently they can't find them with a map, flashlight, GPS and directions. Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:33 AM (mSy8I) I'd sooner give money to a West Pointer butterbar with instructions to find a liquor store to buy me a sixer of PBR. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 26, 2022 11:46 AM (n+4am) 255
Posted by: Michelle Fields at August 26, 2022 11:46 AM (Xrfse) 256
my guess is Mitch and Kevin signed off on this shit
Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:46 AM (us2H3) 257
They are even redacting this thread!
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:46 AM (yQpMk) 258
30 guys with full auto battle rattle and badges says Biden has whatever power he wants.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, the edge of dampness at August 26, 2022 11:46 AM (jTmQV) 259
The sound you hear is all of the oxygen that fueled the recent Hunter Biden laptop stories leaving the room.
Posted by: 496 at August 26, 2022 11:46 AM (VJsqe) 260
I like how one of the justifications they are using is "Trump improperly stored documents"
You are supposed to keep them in an unsecured server in your house that is connected to the internet. Duh. Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 26, 2022 11:46 AM (ESjRY) 261
I know we're all rolling our eyes at the games the FBI is playing with what's been redacted, but, is anyone really surprised?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 11:46 AM (5pTK/) 262
i added the NYT's bullshit report.
Posted by: Chuy at August 26, 2022 11:46 AM (B3oWe) Posted by: spindrift at August 26, 2022 11:47 AM (h5TKJ) 264
The FBI's investigation has established that documents bearing classification markings, which appear to contain National Defense Information (NDI), were among the materials contained in the FIFTEEN BOXES and were stored at the PREMISES in an
unauthorized location. ++++ In sealed boxes behind lock and key with the key controlled by the FBI, yet still "unauthorized." So what does "authorized" mean, exactly? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 11:47 AM (WWh8n) 265
Well, to paraphrase the old saying, never trust anyone who buys ink by the barrel. They used a barrel-full of ink to mark up that affadavit.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2022 11:47 AM (aeePL) 266
Back when I prosecuted Sheik Rahman it was completely within DOJ practice to redact everything but “if” “and” and “but” from all Affidavits. It’s under 42 USCode, Reasons.
Posted by: Andrew McCarthy Firmer Federal J Man at August 26, 2022 11:47 AM (Yp0EX) 267
Again, who gives a flying f**k about the classification status of the documents, Donald Trump was President of the US, he, even as an ex-President, has the necessary security clearance to review these documents.
Essentially they are taking a pissing match between NARA and Trump and inveigling it to a criminal case. F**king Monsters. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 11:47 AM (+ZemB) Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2022 11:47 AM (BRHaw) 269
Why even watch Fox, let along McCarthy? I could tell you what slobbering wet kiss that McCarthy would give to the DOJ and FBI before he opened his mouth. Want a decent take on it, read Technofog or Sundance and turn off the TV.
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:40 ------------- Haven't watched Fox since Nov. 2020. Was listening to Patriot channel on Sirius in the truck. Flipped over to Fox during a commercial break to see if any update on affidavit release. Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 26, 2022 11:47 AM (Dtk8d) 270
Posted by: G'rump928(c) No we're not. Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at August 26, 2022 11:47 AM (nyNes) 271
I would give the GOP money of they had a set of balls
For the record I can verify Kevin has balls. They are kind of small but you take the bad with the good you know? Posted by: Frank Luntz-McCarthy at August 26, 2022 11:47 AM (ESjRY) 272
This has been coordinated kabuki between the lefty judge and the fibs from the get-go.
Posted by: irright at August 26, 2022 11:47 AM (SchQD) 273
245 CBS chyron: redacted affadavit in Mar-A-Lago search unsealed.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 11:44 AM (HJDAV) Has the redacted affidavit actually been released? All I saw was a redacted reasons why it shouldn't be released... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:48 AM (ynpvh) 274
this is my time in the sun
Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:48 AM (us2H3) 275
222 Citizen, have you not learned? Spending $1T will reduce inflation.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM It's just a start, but if we send every American a $10,000 stimulus check to counteract the rising prices from inflation, we can really help people AND stimulate the economy! Posted by: AOC at August 26, 2022 11:48 AM (RGbzo) 276
Not a good weekend to get popped for DWI in Houston. (It never is a good time) First case of monkeypox confirmed in the Harris County jailhouse now.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 26, 2022 11:48 AM (4I/2K) Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2022 11:48 AM (dCxaZ) Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 11:48 AM (WWh8n) 279
re 231: no need for paper when we get stuck with a Central Bank Digital Currency. It'll be for your own good.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 26, 2022 11:48 AM (Ynyl9) 280
The administrations before and after Trump used the full power of the State including our intel agencies to go after him and his associates because he's a member of the opposite party. I'm sure I read somewhere this should be of some concern to people.
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 11:48 AM (e+yf1) 281
Time for the platinum coin..........
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 26, 2022 11:49 AM (IakeZ) 282
275 222 Citizen, have you not learned? Spending $1T will reduce inflation.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:43 AM It's just a start, but if we send every American a $10,000 stimulus check to counteract the rising prices from inflation, we can really help people AND stimulate the economy! Posted by: AOC at August 26, 2022 11:48 AM (RGbzo) If there's one thing I've learned about stimulus checks from all of this, it's that when they go out it's time to buy meme stocks. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 26, 2022 11:49 AM (b2nrj) 283
The constitution forbids presidents you don’t like from doing things presidents you do like, also do. It’s right there in the section that also guarantees a free college education to every Democrat voter.
- Judges Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:49 AM (Map75) 284
Weird that I don't see anything about NUCLEAR CODES in there.
Oh, I know why -- because that was another Deep State lie, fed to a propaganda press whose main stock-in-trade is lies. ======== Paul will continue to cite nuclear codes, though. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 11:49 AM (LvTSG) Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:49 AM (278Ea) 286
That affidavit is as black as the hearts of the Dem progs.
Posted by: Ripley at August 26, 2022 11:49 AM (MxEKc) 287
279 re 231: no need for paper when we get stuck with a Central Bank Digital Currency. It'll be for your own good.
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 26, 2022 11:48 AM (Ynyl9) coming a lot sooner than we think Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:49 AM (us2H3) 288
So far from what my feeble mind can gather, the Affidavit is horseshit and no smoking gun what so ever
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2022 11:49 AM (FHzKS) 289
219 180 So Gates and Soros put Garland in charge. What they don't realize is that the Garland type will purge them and take everything they have. The oligarchs are few, the commies plentiful.
I used to think the oligarchs were in total control. Now I'm less sure. The people they're using to front their agenda will show them they're not needed. French Revolution will ensue. Let them eat bugs is a bad look. Posted by: CN ----------------- Wrong way to look at it, the Dems and oligarchs ARE the ancien' regime and it is them that fear a French revolution. What they did was institute a coup, not a popular revolution and as a result are steadily hollowing out their institutions so they don't function correctly. What you are seeing is not a cohesive regime but different oligarchs pulling different ways with their puppets in office with some foreign actors mixed in. Consolidating a coup is a difficult thing to do if the government is not popular because it becomes tempting for the weak to defect (Iike Zuck throwing the FBI under the bus yesterday or the CDC giving up on Covid and Monkeypox, and so on.) Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (CXr4y) 290
The Junta is just saying F-U we can do whatever we want.
Posted by: FARVA at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (z9V4B) 291
The redactions have been unsealed but when the redactions are removed they're going to have to seal it again.
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (e+yf1) Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (yQpMk) 293
I just read the whole thing. It's a bunch of bullshit.
I am sure they want the evidence that shows they cheated and lied in the MahRussia investigation. Political as hell. Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (M+Lyo) 294
I don't think I've ever seen this level of corruption and subversion undertaken by an alleged law enforcement agency and justice department. There are so many contradictions and outright subterfuge of law, constitution and precedents it's stunning. Even for this group of subversives.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (mSy8I) 295
285 Agreed. Garland has gone full totalitarian
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (Zzbjj) 296
286 That affidavit is as black as the hearts of the Dem progs.
Posted by: Ripley at August 26, 2022 11:49 AM (MxEKc) Yeh. It leaves you in the dark Posted by: 7man at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (qwO6y) 297
They’re gonna need a bigger black ink cartridge.
Posted by: Squid at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (mZnH2) 298
285 Lol this country is a fucking joke
Posted by: thathalfrican ___ just wait until the republicans take power Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (us2H3) 299
If there's one thing I've learned about stimulus checks from all of this, it's that when they go out it's time to buy meme stocks.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy -------------------- Buy canned food and some means like a wood stove to keep warm in winter. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:51 AM (CXr4y) 300
297 They’re gonna need a bigger black ink cartridge.
Posted by: Squid at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (mZnH2) -------- Biggest I've got is 30-06. Posted by: 496 at August 26, 2022 11:51 AM (VJsqe) 301
272 This has been coordinated kabuki between the lefty judge and the fibs from the get-go.
Posted by: irright at August 26, 2022 11:47 AM (SchQD) A Magistrate Judge is a employee of a Judge to help run cases. Strange he would sign the warrant! Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2022 11:51 AM (BRHaw) 302
Sean Davis on twitter : Biden's DOJ told a federal court that the FBI had to raid Trump's house because a CBS news article saw trucks at Mar-a-Lago when Trump was president.
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2022 11:51 AM (If140) 303
288 So far from what my feeble mind can gather, the Affidavit is horseshit and no smoking gun what so ever
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2022 11:49 AM (FHzKS) Agreed, flipped through it and it looks like it really was just a fishing expedition based on a clerical dispute with the archivist. It's pathetic. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (trdmm) 304
So they raided his house to get back documents that were simply Donald Trumps own hand written notes.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (+ZemB) 305
Hilarious meme. Surely the GOP judiciary didn't really think that up?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (wvo9L) 306
294 I don't think I've ever seen this level of corruption and subversion undertaken by an alleged law enforcement agency and justice department. There are so many contradictions and outright subterfuge of law, constitution and precedents it's stunning. Even for this group of subversives. Posted by: Marcus T
------------------ It is happening all over the West, China, and Russia/Ukraine too. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (CXr4y) Posted by: In fairness at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (Xrfse) 308
A "lot of classified records" mixed in with ordinary memorabilia?
Fishing expedition. The FBI is trying to use the excuse, "We had to go through everything, because classified stuff was mixed up with regular items." "Oh, and while searching through all of this stuff, we found evidence of criminal activity." Lawyers among the horde: Could this be considered an end-run around the legal doctrine, "Fruit of the poisoned tree?" Or, am I misunderstanding the term? Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (5pTK/) 309
"However much contempt you have for these lawless agencies, it's not nearly enough."
What do you WANT from me, Sean? Walking around in a "McVeigh was Right" T-shirt? Seriously: burn them to the ground through political action, start over. Reasonable and moderate, eh? Posted by: trev006 at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (J37pt) 310
Glad I topped off with all that cheap steel ammo.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (AaLDK) 311
Remember a Hillary Clinton server, that a few security services have shown was accessed by hackers, contained the identities of undercover agents, who were put in danger because Hillary wanted her pervert adjacent chief of staff to print them out so Hillary can read then while she downs a virile of chardonnay on the crapper.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (jZYv/) 312
How can Biden know nothing about the raid if he signed an order making it illegal for Trump to have the documents he already had? Granted he's senile, so this is a Garland coup
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (Zzbjj) 313
>>The Justice Department asked to search President Donald J. Trump's Florida residence after retrieving an initial batch of highly classified national security documents, out of concern that their disclosure could compromise "clandestine human sources" used in intelligence gathering, according to a redacted version of the affidavit used to obtain the warrant.
translation The documents will how and who spied on Trump and his campaign to create the Russia collusion hoax. Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (ZLI7S) 314
274 this is my time in the sun
Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:48 AM (us2H3) Well it's said that all publicity is good publicity. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (b2nrj) 315
you mean Clapper and Brennan kept their security clearances but the president doesn't?
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (Ynyl9) 316
184 unique docmnents bearing classification markings, including 67 documents marked as CONFIDENTIAL, 92 documents marked as SECRET, and 25 documents marked as TOP SECRET. Further, the FBI agents observed markings reflecting the following compartments /dissemination controls: HCS, FISA, ORCON, NOFORN, and SI. Based on my training and experience, I know that documents classified at these levels typically contain NDI. Several of the documents also contained what appears to be FPOTUS 's handwritten notes.
++++ "Trust me, I'm FBI!" Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (WWh8n) 317
Back when I prosecuted Sheik Rahman it was completely within DOJ practice to redact everything but “if” “and” and “but” from all Affidavits. It’s under 42 USCode, Reasons.
Posted by: Andrew McCarthy Firmer Federal J Man I hear he's a big fan of Lillian Hellman. By the way, I'm not related to this poofter. Posted by: Zombie Mary McCarthy at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (n+4am) 318
Meanwhile Biden is at 42% approval in the RCP average. A month ago it was 37%. This has certainly not hurt him.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (Map75) 319
302 Sean Davis on twitter : Biden's DOJ told a federal court that the FBI had to raid Trump's house because a CBS news article saw trucks at Mar-a-Lago when Trump was president.
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2022 11:51 AM (If140) ========== "This is a just and unquestionable reason." -Mitch McConnell, GOP leader in the Senate Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (LvTSG) 320
Hey, if you don’t like the BLACKED-out affidavit, it means you are a racist, h8ter.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (cfHgC) 321
Made illegal after the fact.
Posted by: davidt at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (oTZbj) 322
A Magistrate Judge is a employee of a Judge to help run cases. Strange he would sign the warrant!
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2022 11:51 AM (BRHaw) Stranger that he is the one continuing to issue ruling about it. Shouldn't an actual judge be handling this now? Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (yQpMk) 323
"DOJ and FBI are so corrupt that they're redacting their reasons for redactions ..."
That transcends mere corruption. That's positively meta. Posted by: Keep gp Out Yo MF'n Mouf at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (qpX6U) 324
302 Sean Davis on twitter : Biden's DOJ told a federal court that the FBI had to raid Trump's house because a CBS news article saw trucks at Mar-a-Lago when Trump was president.
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2022 11:51 AM (If140) That is about the only info not blacked out...so, I deem that 100% true. Posted by: Nova local at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (exHjb) 325
Yeah my guess was correct. At least some of those documents may have resulted in the exposure of our human spies.
Correct and May don't work together, unless you are on Oak Island, Dunce. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:45 AM (yQpMk) What other kind of spies are there? Chinchilla spies? Corgi spies? Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (DRSnL) 326
309 "However much contempt you have for these lawless agencies, it's not nearly enough."
What do you WANT from me, Sean? Walking around in a "McVeigh was Right" T-shirt? Seriously: burn them to the ground through political action, start over. Reasonable and moderate, eh? Posted by: trev006 at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (J37pt) They should be tried, shot, and sent to the Russian front! Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (b2nrj) 327
308. All doctrines and precedents are dead.
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (Zzbjj) 328
They really are saying F you, come at me bro. This is absolutely blatant and they know Republicans are either in on it or too weak to come after them. They also know their subterfuge will be inconsequential since everyone in a position to stop them is either a coward or a cog in a corrupt system that will protect them. We really are in a post constitutional republic if this stands.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (mSy8I) 329
Unauthorized means whatever they want.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2022 11:54 AM (89T5c) 330
So far from what my feeble mind can gather, the Affidavit is horseshit and no smoking gun what so ever
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2022 11:49 AM (FHzKS) ------- "It's the SERIOUSNESS of the redactions that demands this witch hunt!" [h/t El Rushbo] Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 11:54 AM (QbCrG) 331
Probable cause - conflict over storage security.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 26, 2022 11:54 AM (BdMk6) 332
That judge who approved this should be fired and disbarred. Garland should be impeached. Wray, fired and jailed. This is just too much.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 26, 2022 11:54 AM (AaLDK) 333
325 Yeah my guess was correct. At least some of those documents may have resulted in the exposure of our human spies.
Correct and May don't work together, unless you are on Oak Island, Dunce. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:45 AM (yQpMk) What other kind of spies are there? Chinchilla spies? Corgi spies? Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (DRSnL) Bothans don't get nearly enough credit. Sure it was a trap but they give their all. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 26, 2022 11:54 AM (b2nrj) 334
At least the Rick Roll is funny.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 26, 2022 11:54 AM (3JfbU) 335
Consolidating a coup is a difficult thing to do if the government is not popular because it becomes tempting for the weak to defect (Iike Zuck throwing the FBI under the bus yesterday or the CDC giving up on Covid and Monkeypox, and so on.)
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (CXr4y) Yup. Meta is being exposed as dogshit and ZBerg DESPERATELY needs non-shitlibs to engage with it instead of Indian spammers and countless bots. Posted by: trev006 at August 26, 2022 11:54 AM (J37pt) 336
Welcome to the USSA, peons.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:54 AM (278Ea) 337
334 At least the Rick Roll is funny.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 26, 2022 11:54 AM (3JfbU) And more informative than the actual affidavit... Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:55 AM (bs+z0) 338
They should be tried, shot, and sent to the Russian front!
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (b2nrj) You had my interest. Now you have my attention, especially with a proxy Russian front... Posted by: trev006 at August 26, 2022 11:55 AM (J37pt) 339
Of course Fox has Andy McCarthy on, guessing he's going to suddenly be 100% for government secrecy and breaking hundreds of years of precedent all to recover a birthday card Trump recieved from Polish Pres Andrjzededzgdggjkgge Duda.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 11:55 AM (jZYv/) 340
313. I'm not ruling Jared out.
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:55 AM (Zzbjj) 341
>>Meanwhile Biden is at 42% approval in the RCP average. A month ago it was 37%. This has certainly not hurt him.
The RCP is a compilation of garbage polls. It's wildly inaccurate. But you know that. Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:55 AM (ZLI7S) 342
Otter spies?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 11:55 AM (cfHgC) 343
We're also seeing Manchin's ode to courage was actually tying his Christmas list to the continuing resolution 30 days before the election. The Dems are seeking the Republicans up to. shut down the government. Fuck it, let it all go and take Manchin down with it.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 26, 2022 11:55 AM (AaLDK) 344
Wait'll Durham gets to the bottom of this. Posted by: Auspex at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (xUQz7) 345
Hey, let's form a republic.
Posted by: Bananas at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (Xrfse) 346
Consolidating a coup is a difficult thing to do if the government is not popular because it becomes tempting for the weak to defect (Iike Zuck throwing the FBI under the bus yesterday or the CDC giving up on Covid and Monkeypox, and so on.)
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:50 AM (CXr4y) They key element is to have a bunch of armed guys loyal to you personally to put down other participants in the coup as needed to enforce loyalty. Otherwise it's like assassinating Julius Caesar. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (b2nrj) 347
What other kind of spies are there? Chinchilla spies? Corgi spies?
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (DRSnL) ------- Bats! With little wireless cameras implanted behind their dead, beady, little eyes ... Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (QbCrG) 348
Come Mr. Feebie Man, tally me banana
Daylight come and me country is gone! Posted by: Box Culvert, aboad the banana boat to chaos town. at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (9s20h) 349
The RCP is a compilation of garbage polls. It's wildly inaccurate. But you know that.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:55 AM (ZLI7S) Yes, and I wouldn't exactly be proud of 42% anyway... Which of course is inaccurate Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (bs+z0) 350
344. Two weeks
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (Zzbjj) 351
Lawyers among the horde: Could this be considered an end-run around the legal doctrine, "Fruit of the poisoned tree?" Or, am I misunderstanding the term?
Posted by: blake ------------------ What the FBI is trying to invoke is the plain sight doctrine where they claim that they had to go through everything in the house to find the documents that were under lock and seal apparently. But, court cases have limited that and it does not include for example taking everything and returning it at some future date. Search and seizure arrest warrant case involving cops dealt with a cop writing down serial numbers of stereo and tv equipment to find out if they were stolen. The search results were thrown out because while the arrest for a unrelated crime allowed the police to enter to serve the warrant, even though the equipment was in plain sight, it was not related to the object of the search and the subsequent serial number search was not a plain sight evidence of law breaking. That would require a separate search warrant. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (CXr4y) Posted by: fluffy at August 26, 2022 11:57 AM (UnQlg) 353
318 Meanwhile Biden is at 42% approval in the RCP average. A month ago it was 37%. This has certainly not hurt him.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (Map75) ========= In late August of 2018, polls had the D winning the IN senate race by 3. The R won by 6. In early September of 2020, polls had the D winning the ME senate race by 12. The R won by 8. In August of 2016, polls had the D winning the PA senate race by 5. The R won by 2. I'm really struggling to see how polls in August have any reflection of the election results. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 11:57 AM (LvTSG) 354
"So they relied on new reports of moving vans at Mar A Lago ? Seriously ?"
Competent gumshoes would have let the vans leave, then followed them to a possibly bigger cache. Posted by: Keep gp Out Yo MF'n Mouf at August 26, 2022 11:57 AM (qpX6U) 355
The affidavit states that it is now a crime for DJT to have the documents, which were legal for him to have when he left office.
Ex post facto, iirc. Posted by: gourmand du jour, the edge of dampness at August 26, 2022 11:57 AM (jTmQV) 356
Tucked in at the end of paragraph 3, "evidence of obstruction on the premises." It's about January 6. The rest is just a pretext.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at August 26, 2022 11:57 AM (vN+oL) 357
345 I'm stealing this. I need an inspiration for a sewing project.
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:57 AM (Zzbjj) 358
Just read it. Nothing useful to anybody in the unredacted portions, with most of the document redacted.
Yeah, that'll help, and that's the way the FIB and Mr. Magistrate wanted it. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:57 AM (ynpvh) 359
They're going with Biden decided Trump doesn't have EP, and they reclassified previously declassified docs?
Sounds legit. Posted by: micky at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (3byMq) 360
What are the odds the Feebs stamped classified on all the Crossfire Hurricane docs? Why wouldn’t DJT want to have those? This is not rocket surgery.
Posted by: Zek at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (Yp0EX) Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (us2H3) 362
When does a CIA-paid government official in Russia, Iran, or China tell the New York Times he/she has copies of some of the Top Secret/SCIF documents found in the materials seized at Mar-a-Lago? Received from Trump a year ago.
Next week? A month? Posted by: Gref at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (AMIL/) 363
These redactions of redactions is good news. What it shows Russia and China is that there is no need to nuke us; we're nuking ourselves as a clown show.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (JOtiF) 364
Hey, let's form a republic.
Posted by: Bananas at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (Xrfse) ------- BREAKING: Biden Bans Bananas to Quell Next New Domestic Terrorist & Existential Threat. Developing ... Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (QbCrG) 365
355. The law is dead. The real law is the AG putting these EOs in front of the dementia patient.
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (Zzbjj) 366
STEINER WILL COME
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty of BAD TRUMPY MANS! at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (fcmFt) 367
They should get Biden a set of huge epaulets to go with the sunglasses. This is the most corrupt act in the history of our republic.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (mSy8I) 368
It's out according to WSJ. "Heavily redacted"
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 26, 2022 11:59 AM (g1EEm) 369
Is it traditional to redact line-by-line? Why not just use a paint roller?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2022 11:59 AM (KD5bY) 370
In honor of today, I made some banana bread.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 26, 2022 11:59 AM (278Ea) 371
A Magistrate Judge is a employee of a Judge to help run cases. Strange he would sign the warrant!
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2022 11:51 AM (BRHaw) Stranger that he is the one continuing to issue ruling about it. Shouldn't an actual judge be handling this now? Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:53 AM (yQpMk) This entire matter is radioactive. No sane federal district judge wants anything to do with it. There's a reason why the DOJ waited for Rhinebottom 's turn in the rotation. Posted by: mrp at August 26, 2022 11:59 AM (6eRlp) 372
Biden may be polling 42% in his dementia ward, nowhere else.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 26, 2022 11:59 AM (AaLDK) 373
355 The affidavit states that it is now a crime for DJT to have the documents, which were legal for him to have when he left office.
Ex post facto, iirc. Posted by: gourmand du jour, the edge of dampness at August 26, 2022 11:57 AM (jTmQV) I notably see absent in the unredacted portion that the GSA boxed up and SENT this stuff to Trump. I would say that if there were any classified docs there that Trump didn't declassify, they were planted by the GSA as a pretext for this, and the National Archives was in cahoots... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 11:59 AM (ynpvh) Posted by: Ripley at August 26, 2022 11:59 AM (MxEKc) 375
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (CXr4y)
chuy should put this guy on the payroll Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (us2H3) He's a font for sure. Law, guns, history .. I learn something every day. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 11:59 AM (yQpMk) 376
349 The RCP is a compilation of garbage polls. It's wildly inaccurate. But you know that.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 11:55 AM (ZLI7S) Yes, and I wouldn't exactly be proud of 42% anyway... Which of course is inaccurate Posted by: It's me donna ---------------------- RCP was originally a decent measure until polling companies on the behest of Dems began to report vastly incorrect polling numbers to skew results. That being said, Biden is probably up a couple of points due to student loan issue, the green giveaway, and the Trump raid. Some of Biden's approval depression was on the left as they did not get Orange man in jail, the student loan forgiveness, and their green utopia save the world giveaways. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:59 AM (CXr4y) Posted by: Sandra Fluke at August 26, 2022 12:00 PM (ESjRY) 378
372 Biden may be polling 42% in his dementia ward, nowhere else.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 26, 2022 11:59 AM (AaLDK) Is this the same place where your ballots are filled out for you? Damn, I would expect him to do better in that kind of environ. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:00 PM (ynpvh) 379
361 Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (CXr4y)
chuy should put this guy on the payroll Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (us2H3) Amen. Top-tier commenter. Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2022 12:00 PM (9miN6) 380
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (CXr4y)
chuy should put this guy on the payroll Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (us2H3) ------- whig might have to take a pay cut. Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 12:00 PM (QbCrG) 381
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (CXr4y)
-------- Great, thank you. The whole thing is so maddeningly lawless it's surreal. Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 12:00 PM (5pTK/) 382
376 RCP was originally a decent measure until polling companies on the behest of Dems began to report vastly incorrect polling numbers to skew results. That being said, Biden is probably up a couple of points due to student loan issue, the green giveaway, and the Trump raid. Some of Biden's approval depression was on the left as they did not get Orange man in jail, the student loan forgiveness, and their green utopia save the world giveaways.
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:59 AM (CXr4y) ========= Gas is off from historic highs, while still very high. That means America has...forgotten about inflation or something. Listen, if there's one president to match W. breaking the first midterm curse of presidents sans his own 9/11, it's Joe Biden. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:00 PM (LvTSG) 383
318 Meanwhile Biden is at 42% approval in the RCP average. A month ago it was 37%. This has certainly not hurt him.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM It's crazy, but good. I want him running in 2024, and slightly improved polls help. Posted by: Grimmy at August 26, 2022 12:00 PM (RGbzo) 384
@358
>>Just read it. Nothing useful to anybody in the unredacted portions, Not really, there is enough there to know that the entire thing is bullshit and a pissing match between NARA and the Junta simply regarded Trump as illegitimate and did not want to provide him with the deference ex-Presidents routinely enjoy. Also reading through the lines it seems like they are going to go after Trumps lawyers and bang them up on process crimes. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 12:00 PM (+ZemB) 385
That judge who approved this should be fired and disbarred. Garland should be impeached. Wray, fired and jailed. This is just too much.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 26, 2022 11:54 AM (AaLDK) Don't dismiss bunga-bunga out of hand. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 26, 2022 12:01 PM (hCgp1) 386
Unsurprising!
Posted by: Unkaren, redact my life affidavit at August 26, 2022 12:01 PM (REV4+) 387
whig rules!
Posted by: Keep gp Out Yo MF'n Mouf at August 26, 2022 12:01 PM (qpX6U) 388
Remember too, those boxes were boxed up by the GSA and sent to MAL, odds are Trump had little knowledge of what was in them outside of knowing it was stuff friggin his office.
I'm guessing all the back and forth with the DoJ was over who would sort through the documents. The DoJ was probably insisting their people do it, thus they'd be able to read everything Trump had in his office, including private communications with lawyers. When Trump's people didn't budge, they figured they'd find a new way to break the law, on order to further break the law. Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 12:02 PM (jZYv/) 389
I love all the transparency. Gives one a secure, comforting, confident feeling.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 26, 2022 12:02 PM (4I/2K) 390
381. Since 2009, the law doesn't matter.
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 12:02 PM (Zzbjj) Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 12:02 PM (+ZemB) 392
wow, so that groomer epstein pedo magistrate really held the feds' feet to the fire. What a nut job, what a country.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 12:02 PM (OuH7W) 393
Fox's top man, Brett Baier, just summed up the DOJ/FBI case: 15 boxes containing super secret documents thus the FBI was super scared and had to sniff Melania's panties. This is what we have come to expect from Trump and I am calling Arizona for FJB.
The meat of the affidavit is blacked out and nobody that is squealing on TV has a clue what is in the probable cause section. That we will find out when the DOJ/FBI start leaking what they want you to believe to the media. Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 12:03 PM (FF+On) 394
At one of my previous jobs, we put in a FOIA request for a proposal that one of our competitors had submitted to the government. The document we received had been completely redacted.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 12:03 PM (cfHgC) 395
I have said more than once that whig is one of our best commenters.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:03 PM (LvTSG) 396
huh, I can't imagine president trump in 2025 issuing an executive order having Hunter ass raped in front of Joe and Dr. Jill. nope
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 12:03 PM (OuH7W) Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:03 PM (LvTSG) 398
need a special prosecutor.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 12:03 PM (OuH7W) 399
"Also reading through the lines it seems like they are going to go after Trumps lawyers and bang them up on process crimes."
Nobody should be surprised that the DoJ and FBI will collude to go after Trump's lawyers and charge them with process crimes in order to flip them for information. This is part of the plan. Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 12:03 PM (mSy8I) 400
it's weird how trump's own admin got a special counsel but the democrats dont
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 12:03 PM (OuH7W) Posted by: Keep gp Out Yo MF'n Mouf at August 26, 2022 12:03 PM (qpX6U) Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (us2H3) 403
They key element is to have a bunch of armed guys loyal to you personally to put down other participants in the coup as needed to enforce loyalty. Otherwise it's like assassinating Julius Caesar.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy ----------------- During the waning days of the Roman Republic, the schemers may have been Senators but the Generals were the ones that ended up on top of the maypole. As you said, having a bunch of hardened killers is a benefit for a solitary leader but a civil war if a number of people do. The Venetian or Florentine Republics are examples of that. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (CXr4y) 404
What are the odds the Feebs stamped classified on all the Crossfire Hurricane docs? Why wouldn’t DJT want to have those? This is not rocket surgery.
Posted by: Zek at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (Yp0EX) It's a 100% possible and fits the narrative that he had papers that outed agents, yeah the agents who had been working to overthrow the rightfully elected president. Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (jZYv/) 405
The search results were thrown out because while the arrest for a unrelated crime allowed the police to enter to serve the warrant, even though the equipment was in plain sight, it was not related to the object of the search and the subsequent serial number search was not a plain sight evidence of law breaking. That would require a separate search warrant.
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 11:56 AM (CXr4y) The FBI might as well be a bunch of pre-Revolutionary British soldiers breaking into a house to get incriminating without a writ. Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (9miN6) Posted by: Gwen Stefani at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (WWh8n) Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (Xrfse) 408
A republican governor that name starts with DeSantis has been oddly quiet during this matter.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (m7R0k) 409
"Also reading through the lines it seems like they are going to go after Trumps lawyers and bang them up on process crimes."
the DOJ has been at war with (republican) attorney client privilege. On the other track, democrats can launder money through perkins coie Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (OuH7W) 410
Who chooses which spaces between words are redacted and which ones we are allowed to see?
Posted by: 29Victor at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (BJKQV) 411
@397
>>Also that I am one of the worst commenters. All the rest are somewhere in between. Genital warts are better regarded and received than I am. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (+ZemB) 412
Are they really using the moving van bs as a reason for the search? The moving van was seen in front of Mar-Al-Lago on 1/18/21. Hmmm, could it possibly be because Resident Biden was being sworn in on 1/20/21 and the Trumps had to get their personal belongings out of there?
I guess the Obamas took their stuff out by flying carpet, and the Clintons took their stuff out on Hilary's broomstick. Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (aeePL) 413
They want violence. They are daring us to get violent.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (j7Bnb) 414
411 @397
>>Also that I am one of the worst commenters. All the rest are somewhere in between. Genital warts are better regarded and received than I am. Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (+ZemB) ======== And I'm below even that. Sad. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (LvTSG) 415
403. You do sound like VDH.
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (Zzbjj) 416
Also that I am one of the worst commenters.
All the rest are somewhere in between. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:03 PM (LvTSG) I've made Chuy LOL a couple of times through the years. It made me feel surprisingly good to get a chuckle from His Cruelty himself. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (yQpMk) 417
So, Nixon was such a baddie why, again?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (cfHgC) 418
For people who still don't get how "nothing is happening" works.
The corrupt judge ORDERS the release of information. The information is released in a completely hidden fashion, reported breathlessly by the media as if it's new, and we move to the next phase. "Nothing is happening" looks a little different on their side. When I say "nothing" I of course mean justice for us. And round and round we go. Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (e+yf1) Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (OuH7W) 420
Wow, that sample page. More black lines than an old school stag film.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (HJDAV) 421
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (Map75)
Personally, I think President's Biden's average is much higher. The polls are always slanted to the right, and if it wasn't for his dynamic declarations on cleaning up our precious environment by stopping drilling, people ought to be enthusiastic about his help for suffering Ukrainians. The latest thing that shows President's concern for the middle class is cancelling the debt of struggling college students who just want to make the world a better place. Posted by: Chaz Cloggenstein at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (wvo9L) 422
I guess the Obamas took their stuff out by flying carpet, and the Clintons took their stuff out on Hilary's broomstick.
Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (aeePL) LOL Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (bs+z0) 423
>>RCP was originally a decent measure until polling companies on the behest of Dems began to report vastly incorrect polling numbers to skew results. That being said, Biden is probably up a couple of points due to student loan issue, the green giveaway, and the Trump raid. Some of Biden's approval depression was on the left as they did not get Orange man in jail, the student loan forgiveness, and their green utopia save the world giveaways.
I wouldn't bet on it. The college loan bailout only helps a small minority of people in the country and puts the burden on the rest of us, like 85%. I'm not happy with the loan bailout and neither is almost everyone here. And we vote. Same with the green energy bullshit and the raid. Every poll I have seen says more are against than in favor and the soaring energy bills aren't helping. If the left didn't own the media we would hear a much more balanced report of the actual mood of the country. Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (ZLI7S) 424
404 What are the odds the Feebs stamped classified on all the Crossfire Hurricane docs? Why wouldn’t DJT want to have those? This is not rocket surgery.
Posted by: Zek at August 26, 2022 11:58 AM (Yp0EX) It's a 100% possible and fits the narrative that he had papers that outed agents, yeah the agents who had been working to overthrow the rightfully elected president. Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (jZYv/) Good chance many of the Agents and "witnesses" redacted are deep staters, and would be found out as such if they names were available. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (ynpvh) 425
@410 29Victor-The Democrat Party
Posted by: JROD at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (0jZnq) Posted by: MJ at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (zwDuR) 427
We have evidence that Trump used a toilet and flushed paper products! Sources say those paper products were full of post presidential material!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (j7Bnb) 428
Got to hear from Dershowitz. Said there was probable cause in the affidavit but not the need for a raid. Could have been accomplished with a subpoena.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (SMDZT) 429
Hey hey, let's not badmouth the FBI because Mike Pence says we shouldn't do that.
Posted by: Crusty Burgerhead at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (uFblA) 430
Huh, blog time issue? or banned IP? Or just banned?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (HJDAV) 431
402 remember, whig, I get 10%
that was the deal Posted by: REDACTED --------------- Heck, you can take it all. Last thing I want is the IRS breathing down my neck for what Ace can pay. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (CXr4y) 432
I'm waiting for my man
Twenty-six dollars in my hand Up to Lexington, one, two, five Feel sick and dirty, more dead than alive I'm waiting for my man Posted by: mr tmz He's never early He's always late First thing you learn is you always gotta wait Posted by: Skeptical Schnauzer at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (h+7ej) 433
429 Hey hey, let's not badmouth the FBI because Mike Pence says we shouldn't do that.
Posted by: Crusty Burgerhead at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (uFblA) ========= I say we punish the DOJ by increasing it's budget by 9% instead of 10% next year. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (LvTSG) 434
Ok, strange...
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (HJDAV) 435
419 remember: Biden had NO IDEA
even though he signed an executive order ordering it Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 12:05 PM (OuH7W) I believe he doesn't remember. Short-term memory goes first... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:07 PM (ynpvh) 436
His glove compartment had road maps! Those could be used to plot an escape!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2022 12:07 PM (j7Bnb) 437
"I've made Chuy LOL a couple of times through the years. It made me feel surprisingly good to get a chuckle from His Cruelty himself."
Getting a laff outta you guys is the best feeling ever. You are comedy gods. Posted by: Keep gp Out Yo MF'n Mouf at August 26, 2022 12:07 PM (qpX6U) 438
Ace can pay?
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 12:07 PM (e+yf1) 439
427 We have evidence that Trump used a toilet and flushed paper products! Sources say those paper products were full of post presidential material!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (j7Bnb) Indeed. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:07 PM (ynpvh) 440
so, uh, hey what about trump going to prison because of...checks notes...super secret nucelar codes? Huh Larry tribe?
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 12:07 PM (OuH7W) 441
TJM, you are at your best when posting about Prometheus.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 12:07 PM (cfHgC) 442
Joe Biden will absolutely run in 2024.
Posted by: MJ at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (zwDuR) ------- Do you really think he'll still be alive, and if so, not in a nursing home somewhere? I'm thinking the best he could hope for is to be The Nose, from Sleeper. Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (aeePL) 443
Everyone wait for Lawrence Tribe's take. I am sure it will be reasoned and legally sound.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (j7Bnb) 444
Heck, you can take it all. Last thing I want is the IRS breathing down my neck for what Ace can pay.
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (CXr4y) I am led to believe that there is a dental plan. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (yQpMk) 445
441 TJM, you are at your best when posting about Prometheus.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 12:07 PM (cfHgC) ======== I have considered it from time to time. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (LvTSG) 446
340 313. I'm not ruling Jared out.
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 11:55 AM (Zzbjj) He shouldn't be ruled out. He's a snake. Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (BdMk6) 447
429 Hey hey, let's not badmouth the FBI because Mike Pence says we shouldn't do that.
Posted by: Crusty Burgerhead at August 26, 2022 12:06 PM (uFblA) Why? Does he have his mouth around their cocks right now? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (ynpvh) 448
He had papers with Garland's name on them. This highly undercover secret agent's life could be put in danger!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (HJDAV) Posted by: neurosis of the liver at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (48d9R) 450
435 anterograde amnesia for the plausible deniability win
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (Zzbjj) 451
American politics: both sides rat-fucking each other, in a never-ending pissing contest
Posted by: DB at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (geLO8) Posted by: Mash up at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (wNypr) 453
On the other track, democrats can launder money through perkins coie
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (OuH7W) ----- With an FBI office stationed there. Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 26, 2022 12:09 PM (3uEUH) 454
"Or" seems to be doing a lot of heavy lifting in this affidavit. "There might be classified documents or presidential records" so in other words there's presidential records you want for the achieves, but saying that wouldn't get you a warrant, do you snuck classified in there.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 12:09 PM (jZYv/) 455
442 Do you really think he'll still be alive, and if so, not in a nursing home somewhere?
I'm thinking the best he could hope for is to be The Nose, from Sleeper. Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (aeePL) ========== I remember when he was supposed to drop trou and shit on the floor of the debate. The first debate. The first Democratic primary debate. And here he is after having "won" election from his basement. Yes, he's going to run again. Why? He's honestly their best choice. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:09 PM (LvTSG) 456
Since Imma 100% short, Imma loving me some Biden.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 12:09 PM (HTCOy) 457
441 TJM, you are at your best when posting about Prometheus.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 12:07 PM (cfHgC) Note that he does not say you are 'good' TJM, just that you are as good as you are ever going to get when talking about Prometheus. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 12:09 PM (HJDAV) Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 26, 2022 12:09 PM (M+Lyo) 459
443 Everyone wait for Lawrence Tribe's take. I am sure it will be reasoned and legally sound.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (j7Bnb) RBG has no comment... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:09 PM (ynpvh) 460
Rachel Bovard
@rachelbovard 11m Lol they raided his house because the paper pushers at National Archives were bent out of shape about document storage. Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 12:09 PM (NpAcC) 461
I'm tired of pretending we still have a country.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (afRfN) 462
457 441 TJM, you are at your best when posting about Prometheus.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 12:07 PM (cfHgC) Note that he does not say you are 'good' TJM, just that you are as good as you are ever going to get when talking about Prometheus. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 12:09 PM (HJDAV) ========= This distinction was noted mentally. I am in pain. Just FYI. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (LvTSG) 463
[footnote 2] 18 U.S.C. § 793(e) does not use the term "classified information.'' but rather criminalizes the unlawful retention of "information relating to the national defense." The statute does not define "information related to the national defense," but courts have construed it broadly.
++++ Nice catch-all, there. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (WWh8n) Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (FF+On) 465
That judge who approved this should be fired and disbarred. Garland should be impeached. Wray, fired and jailed. This is just too much.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem Oh, but that's the fun part. He's not a judge. * dances around in fin de siècle pirouettes * He's judicial appointment without any oversight or recall. Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (IEa8U) 466
Blacked out.
On paper. Unreaded. - Nick Rekeita, later, possibly Posted by: neurosis of the liver at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (48d9R) ------- "LITERALLY, nothing to see here folks ... " Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (+syVm) 467
415 403. You do sound like VDH.
Posted by: CN ------------------ I consider that a compliment but VDH is much more erudite and directed toward his specialty than I am. I am more an autodidact in many areas with strengths and weaknesses accordingly. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (CXr4y) 468
455 and he allows the real leaders to remain sort of secret
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (Zzbjj) 469
The actual affidavit, if you add some red and yellow, reminds me of the minimalist art work on the CBD thread the other day.
Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (dCxaZ) 470
TJM is Prometheus, you miserable fuck
Posted by: LT Nick Frescia at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (us2H3) 471
Here's the full affidavit, if nobody else has linked it yet:
https://tinyurl.com/2p8nm38p Posted by: Keep gp Out Yo MF'n Mouf at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (qpX6U) 472
452 Agent Strzok is no stranger to love.
Tainted love. Posted by: Mash up at August 26, 2022 12:08 PM (wNypr) Using his Soft Cell again? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (ynpvh) 473
Lol. 20 of the 38 pages are either fully or mostly redacted. That's the big reveal this corrupt judge and his DoJ and FBI co-conspirators manufactured.
There is zero legal basis for this raid. It was a political op. Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (mSy8I) 474
During the waning days of the Roman Republic, the schemers may have been Senators but the Generals were the ones that ended up on top of the maypole. As you said, having a bunch of hardened killers is a benefit for a solitary leader but a civil war if a number of people do. The Venetian or Florentine Republics are examples of that.
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (CXr4y) Yeah, what he said. Posted by: Vespasian, Livin' Large and Livin' the Dream. at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (6eRlp) 475
And what of Obama's thousands (millions?) of documents which some were classified, kept in warehouse storage in Chicago?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (N39Ws) 476
>That judge who approved this should be fired and disbarred. Garland should be impeached. Wray, fired and jailed.
right who's gonna do that Posted by: DB at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (geLO8) 477
Do you really think he'll still be alive, and if so, not in a nursing home somewhere?
I'm thinking the best he could hope for is to be The Nose, from Sleeper. ---------------------- I think he'll be alive but less sentient than now. But he'll run again without running. They'll run the exact same playbook. But more censorship, more ballot harvesting, more of everything. Posted by: MJ at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (zwDuR) 478
469 The actual affidavit, if you add some red and yellow, reminds me of the minimalist art work on the CBD thread the other day.
Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (dCxaZ) You're right it does Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (bs+z0) 479
Yep. I make $96.00 per hour commenting here. Ask me how it works.
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (FF+On) ------- Really? Hey, Sarah only offered me $92/hr. Can I get a bidding war going here? Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (aeePL) 480
He's judicial appointment without any oversight or recall.
Posted by: weft cut-loop ---------------------- Not true. Magistrates serve for a set term and can be disciplined by the supervising district court judges. They are not Article III judges. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (CXr4y) 481
461. Hence my new banana flag
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (Zzbjj) Posted by: Archer at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (gmo/4) 483
>>>I'm tired of pretending we still have a country.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (afRfN) It's very freeing to stop pretending. Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (QYPq3) 484
This distinction was noted mentally.
I am in pain. Just FYI. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (LvTSG) 'Strap this on your sore ass, Blaine.' *Offers grenade launcher* Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (HJDAV) 485
And, Trump kicks the hornets nest by trashing the Judge! Get'em, Two Scoops!
Posted by: Unkaren, redact my life affidavit at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (Qf7sB) 486
Whig is not the only top shelf commenter. But we don't want to start this. Tiers lead to tears.
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (e+yf1) 487
464 Ace can pay?
Posted by: ... Yep. I make $96.00 per hour commenting here. Ask me how it works. Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (FF+On) Are you and Sarah in cahoots? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (ynpvh) 488
Ace can pay?
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 12:07 PM (e+yf1) In Legos Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 26, 2022 12:09 PM (M+Lyo) Ah, the Honorable Lawyer Christian Batua is his banker. Remain blessed. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (yQpMk) 489
Nearly 100 Republicans demand Pelosi hold Biden accountable for $500B student debt handout
I will send the President on a car ride with my husband Paul, at 3:00 a.m. after he has left the Country Club. Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (8aKLl) 490
While at KSC, Harris, who also chairs the National Space Council, will deliver a speech highlighting the historic importance of NASA’s Artemis program, which plans to land the first woman and the first person of color on the moon, a White House official said in an emailed update on Thursday.
There is a thing, sitting on top of another thing. And boom it goes up. But when the really, finally go to the moon they will go at night, so they can see where they are going. Posted by: Commalala at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (BRHaw) 491
480 He's judicial appointment without any oversight or recall.
Posted by: weft cut-loop ---------------------- Not true. Magistrates serve for a set term and can be disciplined by the supervising district court judges. They are not Article III judges. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (CXr4y) ========= That he's making any effort to make the affidavit public tells me that he's on a very short leash from the circuit court judges. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (LvTSG) 492
The law is dead.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (lf83v) 493
you don't often get to see a country collapse in real time. guess the last time was when the Berlin Wall came down and those Warsaw Pact countries flipped
Posted by: DB at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (geLO8) 494
And what of Obama's thousands (millions?) of documents which some were classified, kept in warehouse storage in Chicago?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (N39Ws) Oh, that's different. Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 12:13 PM (DRSnL) 495
The actual affidavit, if you add some red and yellow, reminds me of the minimalist art work on the CBD thread the other day. Posted by: kallisto
Affidavit as Airplane Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 12:13 PM (FF+On) 496
It's a 100% possible and fits the narrative that he had papers that outed agents, yeah the agents who had been working to overthrow the rightfully elected president.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 12:04 PM (jZYv/) Good chance many of the Agents and "witnesses" redacted are deep staters, and would be found out as such if they names were available. == Could be subpoena'd to depositions for the civil cases in progress. There is Trumps and the gal who was claimed to be a russian spy who sat next to Gen'l Flynn. Suing the CIA contractor who defamed her to the press. Part of the game is the govt is so big, and the IC so closed, it is hard to know who to call. If you got the list and documents/memos backing it up, you cut right through their biggest defense - the labyrinth. Posted by: Mash up at August 26, 2022 12:13 PM (ZkHgX) 497
Oh, but that's the fun part. He's not a judge. * dances around in fin de siècle pirouettes *
He's judicial appointment without any oversight or recall. Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 26, 2022 12:10 PM (IEa8U) ---------- I believe the term you're looking for is Soviet Political Commissar. Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 12:13 PM (+syVm) 498
But more censorship, more ballot harvesting, more of everything.
Posted by: MJ at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (zwDuR) ------- Oh yay. Pass the ValuRite. Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2022 12:13 PM (aeePL) 499
It is respectfully requested that this Court issue an order sealing, until further order of the Court, all papers submitted in support of this application, including the application and search warrant. I believe that sealing this document is necessary because the items and information to be seized are relevant to an ongoing investigation and the FBI has not yet identified all potential criminal confederates nor located all evidence related to its investigation. Premature disclosure of the contents of this affidavit and related documents may have a significant and negative impact on the continuing investigation and may severely jeopardize its effectiveness by allowing criminal parties an opportunity to flee, destroy evidence (stored electronically and otherwise), change patterns of behavior, and notify criminal confederates.
++++ And they have the audacity to talk about the problems that "conspiracy theories" pose to the public information complex. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 12:13 PM (WWh8n) 500
Tiers lead to tears>Tears for Fears
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 26, 2022 12:13 PM (lf83v) 501
I think it will be more like bearded mountain men with Steiner binocs will come and watch the smoke plumes rise from the cities.
Posted by: High and Tight and Clean Shaven, for now at August 26, 2022 12:14 PM (VDLxK) 502
Bruce Reinhart now considered for SCOTUS
Posted by: it figures at August 26, 2022 12:14 PM (us2H3) 503
Newsmax reporter comments on how the affidavit claims storage areas were not authorized but Trump has an actual SCI F inMarALago as he has the highest security clearance.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 26, 2022 12:14 PM (SMDZT) 504
POTUS can declassify any document he or she wants. There is no process, there is no procedure. They simply state a document is declassified and it is as of that instant.
This is a bad joke. Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 12:14 PM (ZLI7S) 505
you don't often get to see a country collapse in real time. guess the last time was when the Berlin Wall came down and those Warsaw Pact countries flipped
== We won't be so lucky. Think more Spanish Civil War. Posted by: Mash up at August 26, 2022 12:14 PM (ZkHgX) 506
Nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 26, 2022 12:14 PM (HJDAV) 507
494 And what of Obama's thousands (millions?) of documents which some were classified, kept in warehouse storage in Chicago?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 26, 2022 12:11 PM (N39Ws) Oh, that's different. Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 12:13 PM (DRSnL) Yes, a bird of a different color. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:14 PM (ynpvh) 508
Magistrates serve for a set term and can be disciplined by the supervising district court judges. They are not Article III judges.
Posted by: whig Who exactly is this magistrate's boss? Posted by: davidt at August 26, 2022 12:15 PM (oTZbj) 509
504 it's a coup
Posted by: CN at August 26, 2022 12:15 PM (Zzbjj) 510
If the FBI can issue such a bullshit affidavit against a former president of the United States, we the people are toast.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 26, 2022 12:15 PM (lf83v) 511
That he's making any effort to make the affidavit public tells me that he's on a very short leash from the circuit court judges.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (LvTSG) Not necessarily. Look at the result of his order. Bupkis. So he looks like he's doing his job for the moment and there's no harm to the overall op. In fact you just get more breathless reporting about how the redactions mean its Zooper Zerious for Realz this time. Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 12:15 PM (e+yf1) 512
"Whig is not the only top shelf commenter. But we don't want to start this. Tiers lead to tears."
I've got dibs on median. If that's taken, I'll settle for the mean. Posted by: Keep gp Out Yo MF'n Mouf at August 26, 2022 12:15 PM (qpX6U) 513
464 Ace can pay?
Posted by: ... Yep. I make $96.00 per hour commenting here. Ask me how it works. Posted by: Lost In Space Are you and Sarah in cahoots? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) Yep. I have it on good authority that Sarah is a cover name for Whig. Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 12:15 PM (FF+On) 514
I wonder how many Mar a Lago employees are working for the deep state also?
Posted by: Bosk at August 26, 2022 12:15 PM (yh68b) 515
Remember, it’s spelled “aeroplane.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 12:15 PM (cfHgC) 516
LOL...burp
Posted by: Bill Barr at August 26, 2022 12:16 PM (m7R0k) 517
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 12:13 PM (WWh8n)
Potential criminal confederates ? yeah, they're gonna go after Trump's lawyers and possibly Family members Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 12:16 PM (bs+z0) 518
I guess the Obamas took their stuff out by flying carpet, and the Clintons took their stuff out on Hilary's broomstick.
Heh. Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 26, 2022 12:16 PM (Xrfse) 519
You're goddamn right we ordered the code red!
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at August 26, 2022 12:16 PM (YQ4mh) 520
Remember, it’s spelled “aeroplane.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus Updated name for 2022 sensibilities. Plus it follows the AP Style book. Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 12:16 PM (FF+On) 521
Newsmax reporter comments on how the affidavit claims storage areas were not authorized but Trump has an actual SCI F inMarALago as he has the highest security clearance.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 26, 2022 12:14 PM (SMDZT) ------- I was thinking that he probably had a SCIF there. I can't imagine a presidential residence without one. Posted by: bluebell at August 26, 2022 12:16 PM (aeePL) 522
you don't often get to see a country collapse in real time. guess the last time was when the Berlin Wall came down and those Warsaw Pact countries flipped
Posted by: DB at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (geLO I've been saying this for a while now but the irony is that we actually lost the Cold War and are only now finding it out. Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at August 26, 2022 12:16 PM (afRfN) 523
Tiers lead to tears.
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM We already have tiers. Some even have Cardboard memberships. I've heard there's even an Emerald member or two. #BeBetter Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 26, 2022 12:17 PM (a3Q+t) 524
Nood Ben Shapiro
Posted by: rd at August 26, 2022 12:17 PM (Z32m1) 525
He had magazines and newspapers.
And his OWN NOTES!!! The horror. I love that the AP style guide insists on calling things classified that were declassified by POTUS. He had no classified material. By definition. Also are we pretending the nuke codes are static? Also also anyone remember when BJ Clinton lost them for awhile? Posted by: TexasDan at August 26, 2022 12:17 PM (jCpRm) 526
523 Tiers lead to tears.
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM We already have tiers. Some even have Cardboard memberships. I've heard there's even an Emerald member or two. #BeBetter Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 26, 2022 12:17 PM (a3Q+t) my card is virtual. Not even cardboard member... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:17 PM (ynpvh) 527
The law is dead.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 26, 2022 12:12 PM (lf83v) --------- Long Live V for Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 12:18 PM (+syVm) Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 12:18 PM (jZYv/) 529
511 Not necessarily. Look at the result of his order.
Bupkis. So he looks like he's doing his job for the moment and there's no harm to the overall op. In fact you just get more breathless reporting about how the redactions mean its Zooper Zerious for Realz this time. Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 12:15 PM (e+yf1) ========= This isn't necessarily the end, and he could have just said, "no affidavit needs to be public at all." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:18 PM (LvTSG) 530
Remember, it’s spelled “aeroplane.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 12:15 PM Ain't got time for a fast train. Posted by: The Box Tops at August 26, 2022 12:18 PM (a3Q+t) 531
525 He had magazines and newspapers.
And his OWN NOTES!!! The horror. I love that the AP style guide insists on calling things classified that were declassified by POTUS. He had no classified material. By definition. Also are we pretending the nuke codes are static? Also also anyone remember when BJ Clinton lost them for awhile? Posted by: TexasDan at August 26, 2022 12:17 PM (jCpRm) I thought that was his cigar... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:18 PM (ynpvh) 532
I've been saying this for a while now but the irony is that we actually lost the Cold War and are only now finding it out.
Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at August 26, 2022 12:16 PM (afRfN) No, we didn't lose the Cold War. We won the Cold War. Posted by: mrp at August 26, 2022 12:18 PM (6eRlp) 533
Further, there is probable cause to believe that additional documents that contain classified NDI or that are Presidential records subject to record retention requirements currently remain at the PREMISES.
That's a disjunction, not a conjunction. So there may be no NDI docs. Obama kept 30,000,000 documents "subject to record retention requirements". Sent a f*cking photocopy to the librarian. But for Trump? The acting librarian apparently has the power to send in the FBI. There is also probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found at the PREMISES. What probable cause? Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 26, 2022 12:19 PM (g1EEm) 534
nood
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 26, 2022 12:19 PM (yikp0) 535
Barky paid $3M to keep records in off site for years
Posted by: Skip's phone at August 26, 2022 12:19 PM (EdnZ5) 536
"Whig is not the only top shelf commenter. But we don't want to start this. Tiers lead to tears."
I've got dibs on median. If that's taken, I'll settle for the mean. Posted by: Keep If cruel isn't taken I got dibs on that. Posted by: Lost In Space at August 26, 2022 12:19 PM (FF+On) Posted by: Spiff The Spaceman at August 26, 2022 12:19 PM (lfSFb) 538
533 What probable cause?
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 26, 2022 12:19 PM (g1EEm) That's in the redactions, silly. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:20 PM (ynpvh) 539
388 Remember too, those boxes were boxed up by the GSA and sent to MAL, odds are Trump had little knowledge of what was in them outside of knowing it was stuff friggin his office.
I'm guessing all the back and forth with the DoJ was over who would sort through the documents. The DoJ was probably insisting their people do it, thus they'd be able to read everything Trump had in his office, including private communications with lawyers. When Trump's people didn't budge, they figured they'd find a new way to break the law, on order to further break the law. Posted by: Rbastid at August 26, 2022 12:02 PM (jZYv/) ------ Meanwhile the National Archives agreed to pay for Obama's storage costs, call the place a satellite Archive and limit access to only Obama cronies for 12 years. Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 26, 2022 12:20 PM (3uEUH) 540
537 They added 3 more documents under seal regarding Mar A Lago Raid today.
Posted by: Spiff The Spaceman at August 26, 2022 12:19 PM (lfSFb) Which 3? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 26, 2022 12:20 PM (ynpvh) 541
I particularly enjoy the fact that the FBI agent is reading Breitbart, to quote Kash Patel saying that the President declassified everything in the boxes, and the President's attorney reminding the FBI that the President can declassify anything he wants to.
Then the FBI redacts everything reason they have to justify ignoring those declassifications. Posted by: motionview, a National Divorcee at August 26, 2022 12:20 PM (3+sv3) 542
The notion that Trump would tear up documents and flush them down the toilet is completely ludicrous. People are fucking self-unaware sheep.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2022 12:21 PM (KD5bY) 543
No to nood. Bad nood. More affidavit, less Benny Shapiro.
Posted by: motionview, a National Divorcee at August 26, 2022 12:21 PM (3+sv3) 544
Posted by: Keep gp Out Yo MF'n Mouf at August 26, 2022 12:15 PM (qpX6U)
You're up there in my book. Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 12:21 PM (e+yf1) 545
Toner stocks for the win!
Posted by: 40 Miles North at August 26, 2022 12:22 PM (uWF4x) 546
This isn't necessarily the end, and he could have just said, "no affidavit needs to be public at all."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 12:18 PM (LvTSG) He could have but why should all the heat be focused on him. Diffusion helps make the op harder to oppose. He did his job. He did the important part. Now it's someone else's "turn" to look corrupt. Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 12:23 PM (e+yf1) 547
>> DOJ and FBI are so corrupt that they're redacting their
>> reasons for redactions in their justification for raiding >> a U.S. president's home. Holy Hell. Posted by: Alex Jones at August 26, 2022 12:24 PM (uWF4x) 548
Read the affidavit and basically, it is a fishing expedition and arguably overly broad. In addition, given that the trucks arrived at Mar A Lago, before Jan 20th, any alleged crime will have to be pursued in the SD of Florida over illegal retention of classified information.
Trump's lawyer's letter included in the affidavit fairly states the statutes and caselaw involving officers of the US. Ironically, a lot of that was also dealt with in the emoluments cases brought against Trump because that clause does not apply to the president. Seth Tillman did exemplary work in highlighting the origins of the definition of emoluments in the clause and his work indicates clearly that those terms do not refer to the President. Remember the name of Brian Auten and also the NARA OIG referral to the FBI in February. The NARA names are going to be revealed by FOIA regardless of whether the FBI redacted it. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 12:24 PM (CXr4y) 549
Prediction: word search will reveal the three most often used words in the affidavit are…
Orange Man Bad Posted by: some guy out west at August 26, 2022 12:24 PM (lIWP8) 550
Meanwhile Biden is at 42% approval in the RCP average. A month ago it was 37%. This has certainly not hurt him.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (Map75) == He's out of the news. So everyone forgets how bad he is. Don't worry - the student loan forgiveness thing put him right back in it - and all the bad economic news is getting ready to dump all over him - hours worked per week are dropping, cars are being repossessed, cell phone companies are warning of late bill payments, utility companies are showing high bill defaults, real estate is coming off their highs, the FED isn't done raising rates, food prices are still going up - and layoffs are gathering steam. Just in time for back to school. Posted by: Black JEM at August 26, 2022 12:24 PM (xWZcb) 551
Meanwhile Biden is at 42% approval in the RCP average. A month ago it was 37%. This has certainly not hurt him.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 26, 2022 11:52 AM (Map75) Showing that this country has some seriously stupid people in it. Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at August 26, 2022 12:26 PM (afRfN) 552
Who exactly is this magistrate's boss?
Posted by: davidt Southern District of Florida District Court judges. These are appointed by the president, confirmed by the Senate and serve for life until resignation, retirement, or death (or impeachment in rare cases). Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 12:26 PM (CXr4y) 553
I didn't read all the comments but I hope REDACTED weighed in.
Posted by: Volodymyr Zelenskyy - Super Hero at August 26, 2022 12:27 PM (v0R5T) 554
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Posted by: ... I would fully agree. TJM, Joe Mannix, Dave in Fla, CBD, Kris, MSH, JJ, and others do the drudge work and should reap the kudos. Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 12:29 PM (CXr4y) 555
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Posted by: wth at August 26, 2022 12:32 PM (v0R5T) 556
#NotMyGovernment
Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Epps Is A Fed at August 26, 2022 12:44 PM (lkx+0) 557
This is affidavit is mess, legally. It seems to claim that unsubstantiated press reports over 18 months before precipitated the required emergency search actions of the FBI (CBS truck thing) when no suggested illegality was involved and it strains to suggest that the warrant should cover everything available, either in plain site or not, because...shrug...the FBI doesn't know "exactly" where things they claim they need to seize are...this negates the search as targeted and as required.
I think it's time to stop using Magistrates, which are essentially legal hired help for a district court and not judges, as able to issue warrants - it's not in the Constitution and it makes the warrant process easily scammed. This is a recent development actually, criminal warrants were issued by judges until the late 60's early 70's and no one seems to have challenged the Constitutionality of that...but maybe we'll see that now. Posted by: Boswell at August 26, 2022 12:47 PM (+Cgut) 558
After this outrage, I'm sure we'll see hundreds of good, honest FBI agents resign in disgust!
Posted by: Bad Joke at August 26, 2022 01:13 PM (JCZqz) 559
See, The Affidavit proves Trump is guilty of crimes against Gaia !!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 26, 2022 01:19 PM (X++p7) 560
Hang 'em all.
Posted by: setnaffa at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (bYETr) 561
ACE,
Thanks, for running my art, "Who Really Killed Seth Rich" at the American Thinker. This wasn't a parody. All this crap is related. See my other arts: https://www.americanthinker.com/author/ron_wright/ I've submitted a draft of another art on the Raid on Mar-a-Lago. My conclusions are born out in this affidavit - pretextual, overly broad search warrant, and omissions in the affidavit that are so blatant it should be squashed y a competent higher court and not some highly biased Magistrate judge. Posted by: Ron T Cop at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (nYhjV) 562
Not my Government
You hit the nail on the head. See this art in the Federalist. This biased Magistrate was rolled by the DOJ/FBI to issue this warrant: I will post a link shortly. Posted by: Ron T Cop at August 26, 2022 02:56 PM (nYhjV) 563
Here's the link to the Federalist re a federal magistrate has no authority under the Constitutional to sign search warrants:
https://tinyurl.com/4h2wc74v (HT Instapundit) Posted by: Ron T Cop at August 26, 2022 04:09 PM (kNtJH) 564
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