The Morning Rant: Thomas Paine and the Ongoing Problem of Hereditary Government

Happy Independence Day!

On this sacred day, I’d like to briefly discuss Thomas Paine’s thoughts on hereditary governmental power. Though we are blessed to be free of a hereditary monarchy, our government is infested with a ruling class who enjoy inherited powers. I doubt Mr. Paine would endorse America having a class of political royalty.

Paine’s pamphlet “Common Sense,” published in early 1776, may be the most important document in our country’s founding, outside of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

Paine published it anonymously, finding a brave printer who risked being “cancelled” for printing a work advocating for unapproved freedoms. Common Sense went viral in the buildup to the July 1776 meeting of the Continental Congress at which American independence was declared.

Common Sense sold 120,000 copies in its first three months, and by the end of the Revolution, 500,000 copies were sold. An estimated 20 percent of colonists owned a copy of the revolutionary booklet.

An important theme in Paine’s advocacy for American independence was that the inherited power of the British government was an illegitimate way to choose who should lead government.

From a chapter of Common Sense titled “Of Monarchy and Hereditary Succession”:

But it is not so much the absurdity as the evil of hereditary succession which concerns mankind.
Men who look upon themselves born to reign, and others to obey, soon grow insolent; selected from the rest of mankind their minds are early poisoned by importance; and the world they act in differs so materially from the world at large, that they have but little opportunity of knowing its true interests, and when they succeed to the government are frequently the most ignorant and unfit of any throughout the dominions.

When I read those words I’m not thinking of British royalty, instead I start thinking about people named Romney, Kennedy, Cheney, Clinton, Bush, Gore, Landrieu, Murkowski, etc.

Since 1976 there have only been two presidential elections in which neither of the tickets included the child or spouse of a former Senator, Governor, or President. (Those two elections were 2020: Trump-Pence-Biden-Harris; and 2008: Obama-Biden-McCain-Palin.) But don’t forget that McCain was the child of a famous US Navy Admiral. And some years we even had two nepots on the tickets. (GHWBush / Gore in 1992; GWBush / Gore in 2000.)

In addition, administration of the permanent bureaucratic state is littered with the offspring of the powerful and connected.

After American independence, Thomas Paine continued to expound on the danger of inherited power, discussing the peril of political inheritance beyond monarchy to offices such as magistrate or legislator. From “The Rights of Man”:

All hereditary government is in its nature tyranny. An heritable crown, or an heritable throne, or by what other fanciful name such things may be called, have no other significant explanation than that mankind are heritable property. To inherit a government, is to inherit the people, as if they were flocks and herds.
Do we need a stronger evidence of the absurdity of hereditary government than is seen in the descendants of those men, in any line of life, who once were famous? Is there scarcely an instance in which there is not a total reverse of the character? It appears as if the tide of mental faculties flowed as far as it could in certain channels, and then forsook its course, and arose in others. How irrational then is the hereditary system, which establishes channels of power, in company with which wisdom refuses to flow! By continuing this absurdity, man is perpetually in contradiction with himself; he accepts, for a king, or a chief magistrate, or a legislator, a person whom he would not elect for a constable.

I don’t have a solution to propose today, other than the power we have at the ballot box to vote against heirs to family political dynasties. In a local primary race for my county’s mayor, there were three Republican candidates, one of whom was the child of a former Congressman. For that reason alone, I ruled him out and then chose from the other two candidates. (Sadly, the former Congressman’s child won by getting Democrats to vote in the GOP primary. The problem of Democrats choosing Republican candidates in primaries is a post for another day.)

In my ideal political world, having a famous political name would be a liability, not an asset. George P. Bush’s recent loss in the Texas GOP primary for Attorney General is a hopeful sign.

With talk of Joe Biden not running for re-election, and with Liz Cheney looking to run for President as something other than a Republican, I’ve got an idea for the Democrats’ 2024 dream ticket: Liz Cheney / Hunter Biden. That might finally cure Americans of our addiction to political royalty.

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History Of The American Revolution In A Song

Okay, now let’s celebrate American independence with a little Revolutionary-era music: “Soldier’s Joy”

My grandpa played Jimmie Driftwood music for me when I was a little child, including this old tune. As I learned American history, the lyrics of this song fell into place.

The girls in Boston are dancin' tonight
The gall-derned Redcoats are holding them tight
When we get there we will show them how
but that ain't a doin' us no good now.

There goes General Washington
He's got his horse in a sweeping run
The barefooted boys are a beggin' to fight, and
we're gonna cross the Delaware River tonight.

Old Burgoyne in the wilderness
Got his army in an awful mess
The farmers got mad at the British and Huns, and
captured ten thousand son of a guns.

John Paul Jones in an old tin can
Scoured the ocean like a fightin' man
The British said Paul are you ready to strike
and Paul said I'm just beginnin' to fight.

General Washington and Rochambeau
Drinkin' their wine in the campfire's glow
Big Dan Morgan came a gallopin' in, and said
We got Cornwallis in the old Cowpens.

Wake up buddy have you heard the news
Grandma Britain got an awful bruise
The Redcoats cried and cursed Yorktown, while the
band played The World's Turned Upside Down.

“Soldier’s Joy” (Jimmie Driftwood)

The spirit of ’76 still burns within us. Have a blessed and celebratory Independence Day.

(buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com)

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 04, 2022 11:00 AM (bVYXr)

2 And the chicken leg quarters are out of the brine and in the smoker.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 04, 2022 11:00 AM (bVYXr)

3 Third?

Posted by: Half Dozen at July 04, 2022 11:01 AM (dJs6r)

4 Reading content

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 11:02 AM (2JoB8)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 04, 2022 11:04 AM (arJlL)

6 Dan Morgan wanted to get two volleys from the militia at Cowpens...before they scattered...and he did!

Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

7
Who elected Klaus Schwab to anything?

What's more, fifty years of his dumbfuckery is fifty years too many.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 04, 2022 11:05 AM (pNxlR)

8 Happy Independence Day ya morons!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at July 04, 2022 11:06 AM (Wy1BU)

9 I recommend the book "The Great Debate: Edmund Burke, Thomas Paine, and the Birth of Right and Left", by Yuval Levin. It contrasts the approaches taken by the two men towards revolution, basically slow (Burke) and fast (Paine). It really makes you think, and if you're like me, sometimes you'll lean one way, and sometimes the other.

I think the correct answer as to which approach is correct is "it depends on the circumstances". As a general proposition, though, I favor Burke.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:07 AM (/NCI4)

10 Today is "Shoot All The Guns Day" at the Rancho. Everything gets broken out, cleaned, inspected, and fired. Then cleaned again and put back where it belongs. It's a helluva lot better than fireworks, and rewarding in it's own sense: These tools guarantee our freedom from tyranny. It's best to bring them out on Independence Day as a reminder.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 04, 2022 11:08 AM (ZEWv+)

11
Twelve years in federal elected office and you're out. Six House terms, or two Senate terms, or any combination that adds up to twelve.

Twelve and out -- find something else to do!

And bring back the spoils system -- purge the bureaucracy's ranks whenever the parties exchange the Presidency.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 04, 2022 11:09 AM (pNxlR)

12 "I’ve got an idea for the Democrats’ 2024 dream ticket: Liz Cheney / Hunter Biden. That might finally cure Americans of our addiction to political royalty."

Hunter/Liz. Hunter's amazing redemption story on cleaning up his act will be the stuff of legends. Let's not pretend Hunter and Jill haven't talked about it.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 11:09 AM (qH6FZ)

13 Thought about a few blanks out of Old Bess tonight, it's cleaning it that makes me shy away

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 11:10 AM (2JoB8)

14 Happy Independence Day Horde!

Fuck joe biden

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at July 04, 2022 11:10 AM (BbSpR)

15 It was, I think, radio guy Mark Levin who wrote a book a few years ago about just how incestuous the relationships are between the federal government (both politicians and bureaucrats) and the press (title was "Unfreedom of the Press" IIRC). Judges married to reporters.... news executives married to bureaucrats.... I've forgotten specific examples but when I read it I was shocked at how pervasive these relationships are in DC. Yet it's never spoken of.... evidence of deep rot.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 04, 2022 11:11 AM (xT8gx)

16 Archimedes, it is a good follow up to read of Paine's time in France during the Revolution. He was eventually shocked and horrified by their excesses, and wound up thrown into prison.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 04, 2022 11:11 AM (ZEWv+)

17 Is One-eyed McCain wearing a Mao jacket today. C'mon Texas, you can do better.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 04, 2022 11:11 AM (MkYsY)

18 One third of the people dissatisfied with the current government want to violently remove it. Another third want a national divorce. The last third wants to vote harder in the hopes the first two options aren't needed.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2022 11:11 AM (BFigT)

19 I read a column this morning that suggested a DeSantis / Noem ticket would be just the thing for getting the swing states. Yes, and losing your base. How hard is it to understand that Noem is done?

Anyway, who else would be a good DeSantis running mate? Mike Pompeo? Josh Hawley? Ain't no way Trump would agree to it.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:12 AM (/NCI4)

20 Today is "Shoot All The Guns Day" at the Rancho.

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Yeah, darlin', go and make it happen
Take the world in a love embrace
Fire all of your guns at once
And explode into space

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 11:13 AM (FVME7)

21 Archimedes, it is a good follow up to read of Paine's time in France during the Revolution. He was eventually shocked and horrified by their excesses, and wound up thrown into prison.

Agree. Reflections on the Revolution in France is a classic.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:13 AM (/NCI4)

22 Happy Independence Day to the Horde.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at July 04, 2022 11:14 AM (eGTCV)

23 Mike Pompeo?

Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 11:15 AM (qH6FZ)

24 Agree. Reflections on the Revolution in France is a classic.

Whoops, I completely misread what you said. Sorry. Still agree, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:15 AM (/NCI4)

25 How come you didn't list Adams as an example?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 11:15 AM (BsPPV)

26 The founders were also wary of voting by the masses; they wanted the folks that voted to have actual skin in the game, i.e. property owners.
In Kali, for instance, you have the masses voting to take monies from those with properties in the form of bonds; I vote, you work and pay. As Fredrick Douglas would say, that's slavery.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:16 AM (ynpvh)

27 19 - Archimedes: There is a cadre of good folks who think DeSantis is our best option in 2024 (NOT with Noem as VP). But IMHO they're discounting that if both Trump and DeSantis run in the primaries (against each other) this would be a bloodbath; Trump would win inevitably but DeSantis would give him a run for his money. This would be bad for the general election. I hope the two men (who are both great men IMHO) will get together behind the scenes and agree that they CANNOT run against each other. The risk to the movement would be too great. I'm of the opinion that because of what he's done and because of the risks he's taken... if Trump wants to run he deserves the nomination.

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 04, 2022 11:16 AM (xT8gx)

28 Archimedes, it is a good follow up to read of Paine's time in France during the Revolution. He was eventually shocked and horrified by their excesses, and wound up thrown into prison.

I don't know if TJ ever opened his eyes, though.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:16 AM (/NCI4)

29 Since 1976 there have only been two presidential elections in which neither of the tickets included the child or spouse of a former Senator, Governor, or President. (Those two elections were 2020: Trump-Pence-Biden-Harris

******

The mother of Willie Brown's tonsil babies could be a form of hereditary government.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:16 AM (kXYt5)

30 Happy Independence Day ya morons!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

Backatcha Madame !

Posted by: JT at July 04, 2022 11:16 AM (arJlL)

31 Contrasting the Founding Fathers and their legacy with today's Swamp-Dwelling Pond-Scum-Swilling Treasonous Rat-Fuck Whores ... literally makes me weep.

Nice post, thanks Buck! I was all-in on Hunter Biden for VP before it was cool. ;-)

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 11:17 AM (6otfo)

32 Isn't there a leftist group named after Thomas Paine?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2022 11:17 AM (63Dwl)

33 Happy Independence Day to the Horde.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench

Ibid

Posted by: JT at July 04, 2022 11:17 AM (arJlL)

34 30 Happy Independence Day ya morons!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench)

Backatcha Madame !

Posted by: JT at July 04, 2022 11:16 AM (arJlL)

I'm in a bit of a Revolutionary mood today.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:17 AM (ynpvh)

35 32 Isn't there a leftist group named after Thomas Paine?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2022 11:17 AM (63Dwl)

Gay group? Paine in you Ass?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:17 AM (ynpvh)

36 Byron York
@ByronYork
A 2022 and 2024 agenda: On ABC, Cheney said the most important issue facing the United States today--more than inflation, crime, Ukraine, China, border, anything--is 'protecting the nation from Donald Trump.'

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I'm pretty sure that was one of FDR's four freedoms.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 11:18 AM (FVME7)

37 Isn't there a leftist group named after Thomas Paine?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2022 11:17 AM (63Dwl)

PITA?...PETA...?

Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:18 AM (AwYPR)

38 Unfreedom of the Press is at used book store, passed it up.
Should I have? Thought my hate for press made it redundant

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 11:18 AM (2JoB8)

39 Isn't Gavin Newsom related to Pelosi?

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:18 AM (kXYt5)

40 How hard is it to understand that Noem is done?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:12 AM

I'd sooner vote for a gnome than Noem.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 11:18 AM (ftFVW)

41 39 Isn't Gavin Newsom related to Pelosi?

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:18 AM (kXYt5)

By marriage, I believe.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:19 AM (ynpvh)

42 I'm of the opinion that because of what he's done and because of the risks he's taken... if Trump wants to run he deserves the nomination.

There's where you lose me. The presidency is not something you should ever get because you deserve it, it's a privilege you should get if you're the best choice. To be clear, I prefer DeSantis, but Trump would be fine with me as well.

As to whether it would be a bloodbath, there is an argument to be made that if Trump is the eventual candidate, he'll need the challenge and tuneup to get back in fighting shape.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:19 AM (/NCI4)

43 7
Who elected Klaus Schwab to anything?

What's more, fifty years of his dumbfuckery is fifty years too many.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 04, 2022 11:05 AM (pNxlR)

Make him schwab the decks before walking the plank.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:19 AM (ynpvh)

44 The maternal side of the Idiot Family is descended from Thomas Paine.

Therefore my kids are encoded on at least half of their genes to resist tyranny!

(Hopefully, they got a little additional good stuff from me.)

Happy Independence Day to the Moron Horde!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 04, 2022 11:20 AM (tkyK5)

45 This topic of inherited power has always been a big problem for human societies, and I was surprised to learn that this had a huge bearing on the use of Eunuchs in ancient middle eastern and chinese cultures. The ruling families of those cultures decided early on the eunuchs were the only men who could be trusted to serve the State without trying to carve out personal fiefdoms, wealth, and power for their families. (since they rather astutely observed that most men will always be far more loyal to their own families than to the rulers)

These servants were also generally removed from their homes and raised by the State from an early age, so that the State became the only "family" they would ever know or ever have. A cruel system, but very effective.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2022 11:20 AM (r46W7)

46 To this point, the political fates have cursed Joe Biden with the same bad luck that afflicted Washington, Jefferson, Hamilton and other founding fathers at their most ambitious but least effective - but without granting him anything close to their storied accomplishments or historical legacy. Is that just an ironic coincidence, a minor plot twist in the American story, or a telling symbol of the ultimate failure of the American experiment and the corruption of both our political parties? History will have to answer that question.

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If it weren't for bad luck, he'd have no luck at all.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 11:21 AM (FVME7)

47 17 Is One-eyed McCain wearing a Mao jacket today. C'mon Texas, you can do better.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 04, 2022 11:11 AM (MkYsY)

He started like many; saying the right things to get elected. But like many, being in Congress rots you.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:21 AM (ynpvh)

48 Monarchies often get a bad rap. Many were adequate, and I believe it is the 'great' monarchs that tend to set a kingdom up for collapse. They upset the balance of powers and accomplish a great deal in their life, but the new institutions they create to run a country are not easily controlled by successors. Replacing the rivalrous nobility and clergy with a subordinate bureaucracy always seems to end poorly in a few generations.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 04, 2022 11:21 AM (b2nrj)

49 The ruling families of those cultures decided early on the eunuchs were the only men who could be trusted to serve the State without trying to carve out personal fiefdoms, wealth, and power for their families.

That didn't work out well at all. The Chinese court was a pit of eunuch vipers, all trying for advantage. Why? You'd have to ask them.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:21 AM (/NCI4)

50 36 Byron York
@ByronYork
A 2022 and 2024 agenda: On ABC, Cheney said the most important issue facing the United States today--more than inflation, crime, Ukraine, China, border, anything--is 'protecting the nation from Donald Trump.'
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I'm pretty sure that was one of FDR's four freedoms.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 11:18 AM (FVME7

What a window into her mind! Cheney hates US (those who supported Trump) MORE than she fears China, Russia, Inflation, invasion. Destroying US is her only true goal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2022 11:22 AM (r46W7)

51 48 Monarchies often get a bad rap. Many were adequate, and I believe it is the 'great' monarchs that tend to set a kingdom up for collapse. They upset the balance of powers and accomplish a great deal in their life, but the new institutions they create to run a country are not easily controlled by successors. Replacing the rivalrous nobility and clergy with a subordinate bureaucracy always seems to end poorly in a few generations.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 04, 2022 11:21 AM (b2nrj)

At the same time they were more than happy to get involved in wars of conquest, using the hoi-polloi as fodder.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:23 AM (ynpvh)

52 What a window into her mind! Cheney hates US (those who supported Trump) MORE than she fears China, Russia, Inflation, invasion. Destroying US is her only true goal.

Perhaps after she loses reelection, she and Hillary can get together to share a box of wine and commiserate.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:23 AM (/NCI4)

53 49 The ruling families of those cultures decided early on the eunuchs were the only men who could be trusted to serve the State without trying to carve out personal fiefdoms, wealth, and power for their families.

That didn't work out well at all. The Chinese court was a pit of eunuch vipers, all trying for advantage. Why? You'd have to ask them.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:21 AM (/NCI4)

Nobody had the balls to fix the problem

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:23 AM (ynpvh)

54 That didn't work out well at all. The Chinese court was a pit of eunuch vipers, all trying for advantage. Why? You'd have to ask them.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:21 AM (/NCI4)

I don't get it.

Posted by: Steve Buttigieg at July 04, 2022 11:23 AM (r46W7)

55 But IMHO they're discounting that if both Trump and DeSantis run in the primaries (against each other) this would be a bloodbath; Trump would win inevitably but DeSantis would give him a run for his money. This would be bad for the general election. I hope the two men (who are both great men IMHO) will get together behind the scenes and agree that they CANNOT run against each other. The risk to the movement would be too great. I'm of the opinion that because of what he's done and because of the risks he's taken... if Trump wants to run he deserves the nomination.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 04, 2022 11:16 AM (xT8gx)
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This times 10,000.
A Trump vs DeSantis battle is a dem wet dream. Divide and conquer.
Trump 2024
DeSantis 2028

Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 04, 2022 11:23 AM (dr4Q1)

56 Who elected Klaus Schwab to anything?

What's more, fifty years of his dumbfuckery is fifty years too many.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 04, 2022 11:05 AM

He has a bust of Marx in his office.

If I could see only a single item on someone's job application, IMHO owning a Marx statue would be the most disqualifying item for any job I would hire them to perform. Much less put them in charge of all of the Western economies!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 04, 2022 11:23 AM (tkyK5)

57 51 48 Monarchies often get a bad rap. Many were adequate, and I believe it is the 'great' monarchs that tend to set a kingdom up for collapse. They upset the balance of powers and accomplish a great deal in their life, but the new institutions they create to run a country are not easily controlled by successors. Replacing the rivalrous nobility and clergy with a subordinate bureaucracy always seems to end poorly in a few generations.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 04, 2022 11:21 AM (b2nrj)

At the same time they were more than happy to get involved in wars of conquest, using the hoi-polloi as fodder.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:23 AM (ynpvh)

Yes, that's the other side of the coin of identifying the realm with their own person. On the one hand they don't go for intentionally self-destructive behavior like our elites, on the other they pursue expansion of the power and prestige of the realm, which for the average person usually means little.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 04, 2022 11:24 AM (b2nrj)

58 50 36 Byron York
@ByronYork
A 2022 and 2024 agenda: On ABC, Cheney said the most important issue facing the United States today--more than inflation, crime, Ukraine, China, border, anything--is 'protecting the nation from Donald Trump.'
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I'm pretty sure that was one of FDR's four freedoms.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 11:18 AM (FVME7

What a window into her mind! Cheney hates US (those who supported Trump) MORE than she fears China, Russia, Inflation, invasion. Destroying US is her only true goal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2022 11:22 AM (r46W7)

She feels a certian Comrade-erie with the Chinese Govt.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:24 AM (ynpvh)

59 To arms! The Brutish are coming!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:24 AM (kXYt5)

60 52 What a window into her mind! Cheney hates US (those who supported Trump) MORE than she fears China, Russia, Inflation, invasion. Destroying US is her only true goal.

Perhaps after she loses reelection, she and Hillary can get together to share a box of wine and commiserate.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:23 AM (/NCI4)

Scissoring?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:25 AM (ynpvh)

61 56 Who elected Klaus Schwab to anything?

What's more, fifty years of his dumbfuckery is fifty years too many.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 04, 2022 11:05 AM

He has a bust of Marx in his office.

If I could see only a single item on someone's job application, IMHO owning a Marx statue would be the most disqualifying item for any job I would hire them to perform. Much less put them in charge of all of the Western economies!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 04, 2022 11:23 AM (tkyK5)

Unless it was Groucho.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:25 AM (ynpvh)

62 @ByronYork
A 2022 and 2024 agenda: On ABC, Cheney said the most important issue facing the United States today--more than inflation, crime, Ukraine, China, border, anything--is 'protecting the nation from Donald Trump.'

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Yeah, a booming economy, energy independence, no new wars and peace breaking out in the ME...who wants any of that?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 04, 2022 11:26 AM (aaGzp)

63 At least monarchs felt accountable to God for how they governed, unlike our current would-be overlords.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 04, 2022 11:26 AM (rzOL9)

64 62 @ByronYork
A 2022 and 2024 agenda: On ABC, Cheney said the most important issue facing the United States today--more than inflation, crime, Ukraine, China, border, anything--is 'protecting the nation from Donald Trump.'

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Yeah, a booming economy, energy independence, no new wars and peace breaking out in the ME...who wants any of that?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 04, 2022 11:26 AM (aaGzp)

Not Us.

Posted by: War Industial Complex at July 04, 2022 11:27 AM (ynpvh)

65 10 Today is "Shoot All The Guns Day" at the Rancho. Everything gets broken out, cleaned, inspected, and fired. Then cleaned again and put back where it belongs. It's a helluva lot better than fireworks, and rewarding in it's own sense: These tools guarantee our freedom from tyranny. It's best to bring them out on Independence Day as a reminder.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 04, 2022 11:08 AM

That sounds like a great day!

Let the kids shoot a bottle rocket at a steel target. Then let them shoot a Roman Candle. Then let them shoot the .22 rifle. (I know which one will be clanging steel!)

That would be a good lesson on the profound benefits of accuracy! And fun to boot!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 04, 2022 11:27 AM (tkyK5)

66 42 - I hear ya. I meant Trump deserves it in the sense that he's shown me real, tangible results in a federal office (as opposed to the state level where DeSantis has been amazing). Operating in DC (compared to Tallahassee) is like moving up from high school football to the NFL; there's no comparison. That entire leviathan known as the deep state (or administrative state) is out to destroy any conservative from day one. Trump has felt that (Has he learned? I think so but I'm not 100% sure) while DeSantis has not. That is why I think Trump "deserves" it.... should've used a better word...

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 04, 2022 11:28 AM (xT8gx)

67 63 At least monarchs felt accountable to God for how they governed, unlike our current would-be overlords.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 04, 2022 11:26 AM (rzOL9)

And the commies did away with that last part...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:28 AM (ynpvh)

68 With the technology and speed of travel we have today, the federal government is actually obsolete.

If it was abolished tomorrow, no one would miss it except those grifters, layabouts and sluggards who garnish a federal check or three every month.

Common Sense.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2022 11:28 AM (R/m4+)

69 Our local 4th of July parade, which has ALWAYS been politics-free, allowed a small group of shitstains (some dressed as the Statue of Liberty) to walk and chant "No Justice, No Peace" and "My Body, My Choice". Led, of course, by an ugly bull with a megaphone. No signs, though.

Asshoes.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 04, 2022 11:28 AM (sJHOI)

70 I used to read the Declaration of Independence to my kids, explaining the various parts and why this day was important. Do they remember? Dunno.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:29 AM (ynpvh)

71 Candyman

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e-d0qzl4bwY

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 11:29 AM (FVME7)

72 That might be a good job interview question.

If you had a bust of Marx, where in your house would you display it?

Disqualifying answers: "What do you mean 'if?" "On the mantle over the fireplace.' "over the headboard in the master suite."

Worth another look; "Karl or Groucho?" "In the wheelie bin." "The crawlspace."

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:30 AM (kXYt5)

73 68 With the technology and speed of travel we have today, the federal government is actually obsolete.

If it was abolished tomorrow, no one would miss it except those grifters, layabouts and sluggards who garnish a federal check or three every month.

Common Sense.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2022 11:28 AM (R/m4+)

Yet how do we defend ourselves from enemies? Oh yeah, the 2nd Amendment...Hey, what is the equivalent of cannons and frigates today? I mean, citizens owned them at the beginning of the Republic, so we should have their analogs avaliable to us today, no?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:30 AM (ynpvh)

74 68 With the technology and speed of travel we have today, the federal government is actually obsolete.

If it was abolished tomorrow, no one would miss it except those grifters, layabouts and sluggards who garnish a federal check or three every month.

Common Sense.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2022 11:28 AM (R/m4+)

Typically it is the slowness of communication and travel that leads to decentralization of power.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 04, 2022 11:31 AM (b2nrj)

75 Unless it was Groucho.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:25 AM

Groucho >>>>>>> Karl!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at July 04, 2022 11:31 AM (tkyK5)

76 This is a very good post about the true nature of "royalty". The US, unfortunately, has burdened itself with multiple generations of inherited aristocracy. To Buck's list, I would add the Dingells. Unfortunately, due to redistricting, I have been placed within the Duchy of Dingell and it's about a D+30 congressional seat. Sigh.

The real issue with government isn't so much who the head of state is. A constitutional monarchy like the Westminster system can be very good, if you elect the right people to the government. Margaret Thatcher certainly wasn't an aristocrat, however Winston Churchill was.

In the old days, what little Canadian "aristocracy" there was tended to be pretty benign (e.g. Vincent Massey, Robert Stanfield), but then it just got pretty mediocre with Paul Martin. The latest incarnation, who Mark Steyn likes to call Jacindra Trudeau, is a total disaster and marks a full blown acceptance of the US style royalty system. The only cure will be if the electorate wakes up. I hold no hope for that in the Demented Dominion.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at July 04, 2022 11:31 AM (Dx9jv)

77 the MSM putting Liz Cheney on the air is tantamount to elder abuse

she is sick and needs to be put in a home where she can receive the proper care

my guess she ends up in some kinda crazy bin

Posted by: REDACTED at July 04, 2022 11:31 AM (us2H3)

78 71 Candyman

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e-d0qzl4bwY

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 11:29 AM (FVME7)

That was before the green bejeweled dildo and the Mr. Incredible suit

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:32 AM (ynpvh)

79 my guess she ends up in some kinda crazy bin

Posted by: REDACTED at July 04, 2022 11:31 AM (us2H3)

Democrat Party?

Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:32 AM (AwYPR)

80 And it's not only in politics. I don't know in America, but here in Italy Academia is largely hereditary: I'd say over 50% of the Professors are Professor's sons or daughters, or grandchildren, or their spouses.
Mind that the original professors usually had great merits, having risen to their level in much different times, just like the the first kings of a dinasty were usually successful warriors.
Aristocracy always turns, in time, into oligarchy, and from there to kakistocracy.

Posted by: Anacleto Mitraglia at July 04, 2022 11:33 AM (pqKQr)

81 72 That might be a good job interview question.

If you had a bust of Marx, where in your house would you display it?

Disqualifying answers: "What do you mean 'if?" "On the mantle over the fireplace.' "over the headboard in the master suite."

Worth another look; "Karl or Groucho?" "In the wheelie bin." "The crawlspace."

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:30 AM (kXYt5)

I takes him out on Labor Day and piss on 'im. That acceptable?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:33 AM (ynpvh)

82 Our flag reminds us
many died that it may wave
Thank GOD they stood up.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2022 11:33 AM (0OP+5)

83 11
Twelve years in federal elected office and you're out. Six House terms, or two Senate terms, or any combination that adds up to twelve.

Krebs, there is more than 1 way to skin a cat. Steven Palazzo (congresscritter, 4th district, MS-R) just became the first incumbent congresscritter since 1962 to lose a primary election in MS. He will not get term 7. My family voted to oust his GOPe ass. Palazzo helped too, by being under an ethics probe.

His challenger/victor, Mike Ezell, was county chair for Trump's 2016 run. The Dems keep lurching Left so we might as well lurch Right.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 04, 2022 11:34 AM (F0YaR)

84 > Anyway, who else would be a good DeSantis running mate?

In keeping with the long-term tactic of picking a Veep who your opponents hate even worse than you, thus providing you with impeachment insurance?

Cruz.

Sadly, Trump did not use this tactic.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 04, 2022 11:34 AM (bW8dp)

85 79 my guess she ends up in some kinda crazy bin

Posted by: REDACTED at July 04, 2022 11:31 AM (us2H3)

Democrat Party?

Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:32 AM (AwYPR)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djrl6fu8myo

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

86 Sargon: Did you know that a dead body was found in Joe Scarborough's office once?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 04, 2022 11:34 AM (ybIRR)

87 But IMHO they're discounting that if both Trump and DeSantis run in the primaries (against each other) this would be a bloodbath; Trump would win inevitably but DeSantis would give him a run for his money. This would be bad for the general election. I hope the two men (who are both great men IMHO) will get together behind the scenes and agree that they CANNOT run against each other. The risk to the movement would be too great. I'm of the opinion that because of what he's done and because of the risks he's taken... if Trump wants to run he deserves the nomination.
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 04, 2022 11:16 AM (xT8gx)
=====
This times 10,000.
A Trump vs DeSantis battle is a dem wet dream. Divide and conquer.
Trump 2024
DeSantis 2028

Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 04, 2022 11:23 AM (dr4Q1)

I would think the smart move is Trump with DeSantis as VP. Trump can only get 1 term, so he can be a fully operational death star with no fucks to give. Trump can be the fighter jet clearing the path for the bomber Desantis on his 2028 run.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2022 11:35 AM (VwHCD)

88 > If you had a bust of Marx, where in your house would you display it?

Septic tank.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 04, 2022 11:35 AM (bW8dp)

89 It only makes sense that children will often follow in the same steps as their parents . The examples and the relatively low number of related politicians is low on my list of problems.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 11:36 AM (BsPPV)

90 88 > If you had a bust of Marx, where in your house would you display it?

Septic tank.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 04, 2022 11:35 AM (bW8dp)

Where I slaughter the chickens.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

91 Harpo>>>Groucho

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 04, 2022 11:36 AM (rzOL9)

92 Scenario planning for our Cold Civil War that's already started. It's like 1860. We're fated to be a different country in five years. What that will be ...

What's next is whether or not we have a relatively clean election in November. From now until then things won't get better and may be worse. The will of the people will be clear. Will it be thwarted?

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2022 11:37 AM (i0slg)

93 80 And it's not only in politics. I don't know in America, but here in Italy Academia is largely hereditary: I'd say over 50% of the Professors are Professor's sons or daughters, or grandchildren, or their spouses.
Mind that the original professors usually had great merits, having risen to their level in much different times, just like the the first kings of a dynasty were usually successful warriors.
Aristocracy always turns, in time, into oligarchy, and from there to kakistocracy.
Posted by: Anacleto Mitraglia at July 04, 2022 11:33 AM (pqKQr)

If you look into the history of the colleges and college graduation it had always been dominated by the aristocracy. Not that the aristocrats were incapable, but they were generally aristocrats. American aristocracy has always been informal but it doesn't seem to have made much difference, other than nearly everyone believing they are middle class. There's some social mobility, but that was true in the days of formal aristocracy as well.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 04, 2022 11:37 AM (b2nrj)

94 If you had a bust of Marx, where in your house would you display it?

-
Firing range?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 11:37 AM (FVME7)

95 Liz Cheney knows the way government is "supposed" to operate as she learned from her old man. It's a huge criminal syndicate with interests and grift running throughout everything it touches. There's a pecking order too. Some try to buck the system, most ultimately succumb to it.

Trump is a major threat to all that. The whole house of cards will fall if he's allowed another term.

Cheney is "concerned" about her place at the trough.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2022 11:37 AM (BFigT)

96 I would prefer a mandatory retirement age for all Federal positions elected or appointed rather than term limits. That includes the SC.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 11:38 AM (BsPPV)

97 I would think the smart move is Trump with DeSantis as VP. Trump can only get 1 term, so he can be a fully operational death star with no fucks to give. Trump can be the fighter jet clearing the path for the bomber Desantis on his 2028 run.

My concern there is that Trump seems to have difficulty getting along with other strong alpha men. Pompeo is one of the few I can recall who didn't eventually get torpedoed (granted, most of them deserved it). I want DeSantis to have a clean start.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:38 AM (/NCI4)

98 > 90 88 > If you had a bust of Marx, where in your house would you display it?

Septic tank.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 04, 2022 11:35 AM (bW8dp)

Where I slaughter the chickens.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at July 04, 2022 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

I should have said "septic tank, unless I were rich enough to have my own private gun range. In that case, gun range."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 04, 2022 11:39 AM (bW8dp)

99 I takes him out on Labor Day and piss on 'im. That acceptable?
Posted by: jim

******

Six-figure salary, stock opttiions corner office, Fed holidays and your birthday off with pay, fully vestted 100% matching contributions 401k and full relocation reimbursement. When can you start?

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:39 AM (kXYt5)

100 Harpo>>>Groucho

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 04, 2022 11:36 AM (rzOL9)

Always liked Chico....Gummo..wth?

Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:39 AM (AwYPR)

101 Academia is largely hereditary: I'd say over 50% of the Professors are Professor's sons or daughters, or grandchildren, or their spouses.

Don't you think inherited intelligence has a big role in that?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:39 AM (/NCI4)

102 Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2022 11:37 AM

That's a bingo.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 11:39 AM (FVME7)

103 The Turks castrated their government workers. I think they were on to something.

Posted by: 29Victor at July 04, 2022 11:40 AM (BJKQV)

104 The etymology of aristocracy indicates it meant "rule by the best". In other words scarce any different from the concept of meritocracy. And we find meritocracy always seems to become aristocracy.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 04, 2022 11:40 AM (b2nrj)

105 happy independence day

Posted by: phoenixgirl at July 04, 2022 11:40 AM (CqHIp)

106 What a window into her mind! Cheney hates US (those who supported Trump) MORE than she fears China, Russia, Inflation, invasion. Destroying US is her only true goal.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2022 11:22 AM (r46W7)

One can see clear through to the other side.

Posted by: 7man at July 04, 2022 11:41 AM (qwO6y)

107 If you had a bust of Marx, where in your house would you display it?

Under the biggest hammer I have.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 11:41 AM (eGTCV)

108 Trump picked Pence to help with the Evangelical vote.

Hillary thought that Pussygate would smite Trump and that she'd only need to step over his smoldering corpse to walk into the White House.

But then the Evangelicals stood by Trump. Pivotal moment in the campaign.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2022 11:41 AM (i0slg)

109 Is Disney FINALLY going to lose the rights to Mickey?

https://tinyurl.com/ywpmbkss

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:42 AM (/NCI4)

110 > Always liked Chico....Gummo..wth?

Gummo left the act to join the Army in WWI.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 04, 2022 11:42 AM (bW8dp)

111 y concern there is that Trump seems to have difficulty getting along with other strong alpha men. Pompeo is one of the few I can recall who didn't eventually get torpedoed (granted, most of them deserved it). I want DeSantis to have a clean start.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:38 AM (/NCI4)

You should note that Pompeo has been basically silent about Trump except for a few statements that could be considered 'disagreements'.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 11:42 AM (BsPPV)

112 Johnny Marks >>>Karl Marx

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 04, 2022 11:42 AM (rzOL9)

113 Older Republicans have Fox News on most of the day. They are the reason RINOs keep winning primaries. Nothing will change until they forsake the manipulation by the Uniparty complex.

Posted by: Valiant at July 04, 2022 11:43 AM (cy2xC)

114 In keeping with the long-term tactic of picking a Veep who your opponents hate even worse than you, thus providing you with impeachment insurance?

Cruz.

Sadly, Trump did not use this tactic.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 04, 2022 11:34 AM (bW8dp)
====
In fairness to Trump, who could he have picked that the Dems hated more than him.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 04, 2022 11:43 AM (dr4Q1)

115 "By continuing this absurdity, man is perpetually in contradiction with himself; he accepts, for a king, or a chief magistrate, or a legislator, a person whom he would not elect for a constable."

Or a dog catcher. Or a cashier at a Wendy's.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 11:43 AM (M9XmQ)

116 “ The problem of Democrats choosing Republican candidates in primaries is a post for another day.)”

I just don’t see the problem.

Posted by: Lindsay Graham at July 04, 2022 11:43 AM (qwO6y)

117 I would prefer a mandatory retirement age for all Federal positions elected or appointed rather than term limits. That includes the SC.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 11:38 AM (BsPPV)

So Much Hate Ageist!

Posted by: Old Farts Who Hang Around Too Long at July 04, 2022 11:44 AM (R/m4+)

118 I heard Noem on a recent Megan Kelly broadcast talk about how she's reaching out to Tulsi as to how they could possibly collaborate as two, independent thinking persons of snizz.

Megan fairly shifted in her seat when voicing the potential for a Kristi-Tulsi ticket. Hmm.

Posted by: Zek at July 04, 2022 11:44 AM (9RLhb)

119 Johnny Marks >>>Karl Marx

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 04, 2022 11:42 AM (rzOL9)

hell....Richard Marx>>>Karl Marx

Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:45 AM (AwYPR)

120 If you had a bust of Marx, where in your house would you display it?

Under the biggest hammer I have.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 11:41 AM (eGTCV)
***

Heh.
I have a soviet flag in my garage. Picked it up when I was in Afghanistan back when the rooskies were there.
It's cool to have but not sure what to do with it now .

Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2022 11:45 AM (anj39)

121 Happy 4th to all and Happy B-Day to the greatest country ever to exist on the planet, I miss it, but hopefully our next one will nearly match it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 04, 2022 11:45 AM (8GBH4)

122 https://www.frontpagemag.com/does iran have hit team in us
https://tinyurl.com/5ethfwar

This came up few mothers ago but was swept under rug where Middle East foreigners were paying bribes to SS Agents and in possession of lots of tactical gear.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 11:45 AM (2JoB8)

123 Marx Toys > Karl Marx

Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots > Gulags

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 04, 2022 11:46 AM (bW8dp)

124 Who elected Klaus Schwab to anything?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 04, 2022 11:05 AM (pNxlR)

It makes more sense if you use "anointed".

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 11:46 AM (M9XmQ)

125 Most famous anti-communist athlete?

Marx? *spits*

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:46 AM (kXYt5)

126 > Megan fairly shifted in her seat when voicing the potential for a Kristi-Tulsi ticket.

I'd watch that porno, but wouldn't vote for that ticket.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 04, 2022 11:47 AM (bW8dp)

127 Doc and Dawg, Soldier's Joy;

https://tinyurl.com/2pdd55k5

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos (meh, it's a living) at July 04, 2022 11:47 AM (3DZIZ)

128 Forget Pompeo, I'm sure everything he did at state he did reluctantly at Trump's insistence. He's swamp through and through.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 11:48 AM (qH6FZ)

129 108 Trump picked Pence to help with the Evangelical vote.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2022 11:41 AM (i0slg)

This is the way it appears to me also. I would be considered evangelical. The practice of not being alone with the opposite sex is a practice many Christians have adopted because the world became crazy and there were also some imposters in the ministry making everyone else look bad. Better to not even give the appearance of impropriety. Pence's practice of that standard was like a "dog whistle" to evangelicals and perhaps was regarded as a hedge against complaints about Trump's multiple marriages.

Pence had a mark against him in my mind for folding on religious rights. But I was willing to give him another chance.

Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2022 11:48 AM (6RgRK)

130 Mr Buck, great song pick.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at July 04, 2022 11:48 AM (uWiZJ)

131 Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots

****

The T-Rex version was a flop.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:48 AM (kXYt5)

132 If you had a bust of Marx, where in your house would you display it?

Dragged around the streets by a muscle car or harley, then shot at, then put in a 40 ton press and turned into sand, and then dumped into the nearest cat litter box.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2022 11:48 AM (VwHCD)

133 I heard Noem on a recent Megan Kelly broadcast talk about how she's reaching out to Tulsi as to how they could possibly collaborate as two, independent thinking persons of snizz.

Megan fairly shifted in her seat when voicing the potential for a Kristi-Tulsi ticket. Hmm.
Posted by: Zek at July 04, 2022 11:44 AM (9RLhb)

trying to hornswoggle the all-important rube demo

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 04, 2022 11:49 AM (sJHOI)

134 >>> Is Disney FINALLY going to lose the rights to Mickey?

https://tinyurl.com/ywpmbkss
Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:42 AM (/NCI4)

Well they'll still have trannies and kid diddling.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 04, 2022 11:49 AM (0fVbu)

135 Karl Malden > Karl Marx

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 04, 2022 11:49 AM (sJHOI)

136 https://www.frontpagemag.com/does iran have hit team in us
https://tinyurl.com/5ethfwar

This came up few mothers ago but was swept under rug where Middle East foreigners were paying bribes to SS Agents and in possession of lots of tactical gear.
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 11:45 AM (2JoB

Not exactly breaking news when we've known about Jamaat ul Fuqra training compounds all over America for twenty years now, and nobody's done shit about them.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 11:50 AM (M9XmQ)

137 I would think the smart move is Trump with DeSantis as VP. Trump can only get 1 term, so he can be a fully operational death star with no fucks to give. Trump can be the fighter jet clearing the path for the bomber Desantis on his 2028 run.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 04, 2022 11:35 AM (VwHCD)

Trump would have to change his address again, to a different state. Bush/Cheney were both TX residents, so Dick put his house up for sale and moved to Wyoming. This was crucial, in that the then TX 32 electoral voters would not have been able to vote for both P and VP.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 04, 2022 11:50 AM (F0YaR)

138 While we are at it--Doc and Dawg, Florida Blues;

https://tinyurl.com/yukdvybn

note, "take 1"

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos (meh, it's a living) at July 04, 2022 11:51 AM (3DZIZ)

139 > Karl Malden > Karl Marx

Karl Marx is the one who kept stealing Karl Malden's traveler's checks.

Do traveler's checks even exist any more? I haven't seen one or bought one in years.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 04, 2022 11:51 AM (bW8dp)

140 I am all for term limits. This country should NOT have a ruling class.

Congress - 4 terms
Senate - 2 terms

No pension, no life long medical. And of course we must do something about the insider trading. Congress gets rich doing something that would get me thrown in jail for.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 04, 2022 11:51 AM (fe7in)

141 When I read those words I’m not thinking of British royalty, instead I start thinking about people named Romney, Kennedy, Cheney, Clinton, Bush, Gore, Landrieu, Murkowski, etc.

I think of Harvard, Yale, Princeton. But what do I know? I'm just a lowly surf, guv'nah.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 04, 2022 11:51 AM (IEa8U)

142 *cheques

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 11:52 AM (M9XmQ)

143 Failing marks > Karl Marx

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 11:52 AM (FVME7)

144 Carling Black Label >>>Karl Marx

Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:52 AM (AwYPR)

145 Great music, Buck! Thanks.

Happy Independence Day!

Posted by: KT at July 04, 2022 11:52 AM (rrtZS)

146 Noem is done, forget her weak political performance, she's not 35 yr. old hot anymore, she decided to go with the sinewy arms and joker lips look for some reason. And she's turned into a scold. She can't just explain her position and reason, she scolds.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 11:52 AM (qH6FZ)

147 > *cheques

This is America, and July 4 to boot.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 04, 2022 11:52 AM (bW8dp)

148 I think of Harvard, Yale, Princeton. But what do I know? I'm just a lowly surf, guv'nah.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 04, 2022 11:51 AM (IEa8U)
------
Serf's up!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 04, 2022 11:52 AM (aaGzp)

149 I think of Harvard, Yale, Princeton. But what do I know? I'm just a lowly surf, guv'nah.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 04, 2022 11:51 AM (IEa8U)

Poison ivy

Posted by: 7man at July 04, 2022 11:52 AM (qwO6y)

150 Getting worse in Sundowner Puppeteers are playing nice with Iran and ending their terrorist labels.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 11:52 AM (2JoB8)

151 Heh.
I have a soviet flag in my garage. Picked it up when I was in Afghanistan back when the rooskies were there.
It's cool to have but not sure what to do with it now .
Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2022 11:45 AM (anj39)

2 words: Infiltrate

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 04, 2022 11:53 AM (sJHOI)

152 Guy in blue hat, "Do I really have to play second drum to this guy?"

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 11:53 AM (GSEqA)

153 Not in the house, but in the yard, down the hill, where the targets are.

Posted by: Joe Biteum at July 04, 2022 11:53 AM (sn5EN)

154 The other day I heard a commentator talk about how Slo Joe needs to defer his announcement not to see re election until after the midterms, so as to avoid all the "who's next" talk overwhelming the base needed to turn out this November.

Made a lightbulb go off. Maybe the wrong one. But what if DJT has decided to pass to torch to DeSantis in 2024. Even if he did, it would be good strategery IMO to delay that announcement as much as possible. Thus DJT continues to be the lightning rod for the Daily Two Minutes Hate on every network until closer to the election.

Of course, whoever runs on the GOP will be portrayed as a racist sociopath --but Trump running interference and catching a good amount of the flack in the runup could be helpful...

Posted by: Zek at July 04, 2022 11:54 AM (9RLhb)

155 I think one thing to consider with a Trump and/or DeSantis ticket it just how much bullshit one the other or both will have to put up with from the media. They've already got Trump's number. That's a significant distraction IMO. And you know teh Donald can't resist poking the media in the eye instead of working behind the scenes to cut them off at the knees. Big failure there.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2022 11:54 AM (BFigT)

156 Guy in blue hat, "Do I really have to play second drum to this guy?"
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 11:53 AM (GSEqA)
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*drum solo from "Innagaddadavita"*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 04, 2022 11:55 AM (aaGzp)

157 >>> Trump would have to change his address again, to a different state. Bush/Cheney were both TX residents, so Dick put his house up for sale and moved to Wyoming. This was crucial, in that the then TX 32 electoral voters would not have been able to vote for both P and VP.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 04, 2022 11:50 AM (F0YaR)

If we don't see movement from trump in the next year then that cements the prediction that he's either not running or he's going to try to take out deathsanta. Never underestimate trump's ability to make things more difficult.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 04, 2022 11:56 AM (0fVbu)

158 Another classic tune you know but you want to hear it again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSTKE85yXl4

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 04, 2022 11:57 AM (8GBH4)

159 "... absurdity of hereditary government than is seen in the descendants of those men.... in which there is not a total reverse of the character?"

This explains Prince Charles.

Posted by: George V at July 04, 2022 11:57 AM (ugbqN)

160 The drum solo from Inna Gadda Da Vida sounds like a drunkard falling into a drum kit

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at July 04, 2022 11:57 AM (sJHOI)

161 American government is acting like the Wizard when Toto pulled the curtain aside. The rest of the non-Cabal world are the audience, and are also acting accordingly.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 11:57 AM (M9XmQ)

162 Made a lightbulb go off. Maybe the wrong one. But what if DJT has decided to pass to torch to DeSantis in 2024. Even if he did, it would be good strategery IMO to delay that announcement as much as possible. Thus DJT continues to be the lightning rod for the Daily Two Minutes Hate on every network until closer to the election.

This scenario was my hope a year ago, but it really does look like Trump intends to run.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 11:58 AM (/NCI4)

163 "American government is acting like the Wizard when Toto pulled the curtain aside. The rest of the non-Cabal world are the audience, and are also acting accordingly."

I prefer the roaches-when-lights-are-turned-on analogy.

Posted by: Zek at July 04, 2022 11:59 AM (9RLhb)

164 101 Academia is largely hereditary: I'd say over 50% of the Professors are Professor's sons or daughters, or grandchildren, or their spouses.

Don't you think inherited intelligence has a big role in that?

No. Believe me, i'm MD and I was personally aquainted to many academics when I was in medical school.

Posted by: Anacleto Mitraglia at July 04, 2022 11:59 AM (3Nqi/)

165 dang ol sock

Posted by: fd at July 04, 2022 12:00 PM (sn5EN)

166 What is the name of that drum and fife song they marched too?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 04, 2022 12:00 PM (8GBH4)

167 The drum solo from Inna Gadda Da Vida sounds like a drunkard falling into a drum kit
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah

Or a drum kit falling down a high-rise stairwell.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 12:00 PM (M9XmQ)

168 What is the name of that drum and fife song they marched too?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 04, 2022 12:00 PM (8GBH4)

uhhh...yankee doodle?

Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 12:01 PM (AwYPR)

169 *watches the drum memes start to roll*

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 12:01 PM (GSEqA)

170 Nancy and the J6 are about to brand Trump as an "insurrectionist" and thus banned for life from any federal office, per the Constitution. Her third try at impeaching Trump.

Knowing Trump that will make it likely that he'll run.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2022 12:01 PM (i0slg)

171 What is the name of that drum and fife song they marched too?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 04, 2022 12:00 PM (8GBH4)
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"Yank My Doodle, It's A Dandy".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 04, 2022 12:02 PM (aaGzp)

172 Karl Spackler> Karl Malden > Karl Marx

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at July 04, 2022 12:02 PM (flINI)

173 Over/under on McConnell celebrating Independence Day by eating a huge bowl of Kung Pao Chicken while he counts his Yuan's.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 04, 2022 12:03 PM (MkYsY)

174 170 Nancy and the J6 are about to brand Trump as an "insurrectionist" and thus banned for life from any federal office, per the Constitution. Her third try at impeaching Trump.

Yeah, and that will backfire bigly with the "folks"

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 12:03 PM (bs+z0)

175 @170
"Nancy and the J6 are about to brand Trump as an "insurrectionist" and thus banned for life from any federal office, per the Constitution. Her third try at impeaching Trump."

This is even worse than the Bill of Attainder. They've basically created an entirely unconstitutional class of judicial proceeding against one man.

Posted by: Zek at July 04, 2022 12:03 PM (9RLhb)

176 Don't get snared by the drum puns.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2022 12:04 PM (u73oe)

177 " *watches the drum memes start to roll*
Posted by: Anna Puma "

It's a cymbal of our creativity.

Posted by: fd at July 04, 2022 12:04 PM (sn5EN)

178 Karl Spackler> Karl Malden > Karl Marx

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at July 04, 2022 12:02 PM (flINI)

IT"S IN THE HOLE!!

Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 12:04 PM (AwYPR)

179 Liz Cheney yesterday:

I mean, a man as dangerous as Donald Trump can absolutely never be anywhere near the oval office ever again.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2022 12:04 PM (i0slg)

180 Was it yankee doodle? I thought maybe there was a war march.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 04, 2022 12:05 PM (8GBH4)

181 Why to Pennsylvania people get mad at me when I call Uncle Joe "Scranton Joe". There are no bad words in that statement.

Posted by: Colin at July 04, 2022 12:05 PM (YVx1O)

182 179 Liz Cheney yesterday:

I mean, a man as dangerous as Donald Trump can absolutely never be anywhere near the oval office ever again.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2022 12:04 PM (i0slg)

projection much Liz ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 12:05 PM (bs+z0)

183
There once was a rich guy named Andy
Asked a hooker to give him a handy
She sweetly declined,
Said, "You're way too refined
So go yank yer own doodle, Dandy!"

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 12:05 PM (kXYt5)

184 I always felt that major deals were struck when it became clear Trump was going to win the nom and he was summoned to D.C. to meet with Rinse Pubus and the GOPe ("Mr. Trump Goes to Washington" as the headlines read that day.)

One was that Rinse Pubus be appointed Chief of Staff (more like chief of spy) and the other was that Trump pick from a very short list of Veeps presented to him. And he picked Pence.

Just my feeling on it.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 04, 2022 12:05 PM (eiN05)

185 They've basically created an entirely unconstitutional class of judicial proceeding against one man.
Posted by: Zek at July 04, 2022 12:03 PM

Nobody has ever so fully become Orwell's Emmanuel Goldstein than DJT. Not since Hitler.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 12:06 PM (M9XmQ)

186 {72} That might be a good job interview question.

"If you had a bust of Marx, where in your house would you display it?" ...

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:30 AM (kXYt5)

My answer to this theoretical interviewer:

"In a gallery with paintings of starving people, mass graves, and human skulls. It is important to frame ideas in their proper and full context, don't you think?"

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at July 04, 2022 12:07 PM (nRMeC)

187 No. Believe me, i'm MD
Anacleto Mitraglia

I looked you up. Apparently you have a long and stereotyped role in Donald Duck cartoons. It's good to see you found other work.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 12:08 PM (/NCI4)

188 This scenario was my hope a year ago, but it really does look like Trump intends to run.

*

It was discussed briefly this morning, but what will likely happen is that false insurrection charges will be laid on the man who won 2020 in a landslide at the same time gas has intentionally been brought to $10+ per gallon. Trump is barred from running, people are unable to afford gas, food, etc, and the folks they have been trying to agitate for years finally bite

I don't know the next stage, but it won't be pleasant. I'm sure PATRIOT Act II is already written and ready to address the deplorables, though. They ARE domestic terrorists, after all.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - screw anyone here who thinks he should tell Americans what they need or should buy at July 04, 2022 12:08 PM (Ucl3d)

189 >If you had a bust of Marx, where in your house would you display it?
>Under the biggest hammer I have.
>Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 11:41 AM (eGTCV)

Then you've wielded a hammer, unlike a commie.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 04, 2022 12:08 PM (ybIRR)

190
Karl Malden > Karl Marx

Nosed him out.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2022 12:09 PM (63Dwl)

191 Karl Childers > Karl Spackler> Karl Malden > karl Marx

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at July 04, 2022 12:09 PM (flINI)

192 >>> 179 Liz Cheney yesterday:
I mean, a man as dangerous as Donald Trump can absolutely never be anywhere near the oval office ever again.

At least he never shot anybody, unlike your dad...

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2022 12:10 PM (UJaQC)

193 Hot Carl > Karl Marx

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 12:10 PM (M9XmQ)

194 > Nancy and the J6 are about to brand Trump as an "insurrectionist" and thus banned for life from any federal office, per the Constitution.
____________

All they have to do is "disqualify" Trump. That means whatever the J6 committee says it means. If the GOP won't put Trump on the ballot, then one has to wonder how Trump will run an effective campaign as some 3rd party outlier. And whatever "party" he runs under would have to be legit to get on some state ballots... or he'd be a write-in. Then... if he wins with all that stacked against him will congress and the sitting administration recognize it as legit?

The answer is, of course not.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2022 12:10 PM (BFigT)

195 Karl Childers > Karl Spackler> Karl Malden > karl Marx >Karl Rove

Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 04, 2022 12:11 PM (MkYsY)

196 Hereditary government? Then we'd be faced with President Chelsea Clinton, and President Hunter Biden?

'Nuff said.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 04, 2022 12:12 PM (YqDXo)

197 "Yank My Doodle, It's A Dandy".

Do you, perchance, have a newsletter?

Posted by: Sandra Flook at July 04, 2022 12:12 PM (Xrfse)

198 Karl Childers > Karl Spackler> Karl Malden > karl Marx
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at July 04, 2022 12:09 PM (flINI)

***

It's true I reckon... mmmmmm hmmmmm

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at July 04, 2022 12:12 PM (flINI)

199 Its the reason Liz thinks he is dangerous though. He is dangerous to the oligarchy which she inherited into.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 04, 2022 12:13 PM (8GBH4)

200 Nancy and the J6 are about to brand Trump as an "insurrectionist" and thus banned for life from any federal office, per the Constitution.
______________

The Reds are terrified of Trump. Utterly shit-scared of him. That alone is enough to garner my support.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 04, 2022 12:13 PM (YqDXo)

201 Has a write-in candidate ever won, and actually assumed, any office in America higher than city council, in the modern age?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 12:13 PM (M9XmQ)

202 Highland Park's 4th of July parade seems to be under attack.
Chicagoland.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 12:13 PM (qH6FZ)

203 Imagine a white sheriff even running an ad against a black politician who spoke up in support of the black riots.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - screw anyone here who thinks he should tell Americans what they need or should buy at July 04, 2022 12:13 PM (Ucl3d)

204 "The will of the people will be clear. Will it be thwarted?"

Via election/process fraud, or by the "victors" themselves, as in 2010?

And it isn't hereditary if people are electing them. A fundamental disconnect between Paine's righteous point, and the laments about current America.

Posted by: rhomboid at July 04, 2022 12:14 PM (OTzUX)

205 201 Has a write-in candidate ever won, and actually assumed, any office in America higher than city council, in the modern age?
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 12:13 PM (M9XmQ)

Murkowski

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 12:14 PM (bs+z0)

206 Has a write-in candidate ever won, and actually assumed, any office in America higher than city council, in the modern age?
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 12:13 PM (M9XmQ)

Would you believe Senator More-Cokeski from AK?

Posted by: Agent 86 at July 04, 2022 12:15 PM (4I/2K)

207 SHOOTING NOOD FLASH

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 12:15 PM (2JoB8)

208 Murkowski won as write-in, thanks to Mitch McConnell and "Republican" money.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 12:15 PM (qH6FZ)

209 I personalty think the J6 committee should wear powdered wigs, it will make them look really official.

Posted by: Colin at July 04, 2022 12:15 PM (YVx1O)

210 >>> In keeping with the long-term tactic of picking a Veep who your opponents hate even worse than you, thus providing you with impeachment insurance?

Pence was actually a decent choice at that time in that regard, the woke LGBT+ despised him. Remember, they were convinced that if he was POTUS, he would immediately round up all the gays into conversion therapy gulags. And he looked measured vs Trump's brashness. His stealth turncoat side was well, well hidden, unfortunately.

Crus would be an intriguing option for VP, though he's annoyed me plenty. There are occasional flashes that he's dipped a toe into the GOPe swamp.

Posted by: LizLem at July 04, 2022 12:16 PM (UJaQC)

211 Highland Park's 4th of July parade seems to be under attack.
Chicagoland.
Posted by: lowandslow

Thanks. Sun-Times link:

https://tinyurl.com/2p8s24bm

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 12:17 PM (M9XmQ)

212 Imagine a white sheriff even running an ad against a black politician who spoke up in support of the black riots.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - screw anyone here who thinks he should tell Americans what they need or should buy at July 04, 2022 12:13 PM (Ucl3d)

The Sheriff Is Near!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2022 12:17 PM (R/m4+)

213 The Great Escape - 4th of July
Wow! Smooth!
https://youtu.be/MZsEl3QIs38

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 12:17 PM (4I/2K)

214 It's not technically hereditary, but we have political families. Recognized household names that are involved in nothing more than ruling us, and their children go into it, too.

These days especially, you don't need to be in office to rule.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - screw anyone here who thinks he should tell Americans what they need or should buy at July 04, 2022 12:18 PM (Ucl3d)

215
All they have to do is "disqualify" Trump. That means whatever the J6 committee says it means. If the GOP won't put Trump on the ballot, then one has to wonder how Trump will run an effective campaign as some 3rd party outlier. And whatever "party" he runs under would have to be legit to get on some state ballots... or he'd be a write-in. Then... if he wins with all that stacked against him will congress and the sitting administration recognize it as legit?

The answer is, of course not.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 04, 2022 12:10 PM (BFigT)
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And this is from the people that are so concerned about our sacred (spit) democracy.
Our democracy is far too important to let a bunch of rubes out in flyover country vote in a president that we don't approve.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at July 04, 2022 12:18 PM (dr4Q1)

216 Rhomboid: Fair point that the current aristocracy is being elected and that political office isn’t a legal inheritance, however, the resources and network needed to run a campaign are immense, and when those resources are transferable from parent to child, there is a tremendous legacy advantage over those not born into that network.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at July 04, 2022 12:19 PM (d9Cw3)

217 Cruz awarded a medal to the guy who murdered Ashley Babbitt, didn't he?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - screw anyone here who thinks he should tell Americans what they need or should buy at July 04, 2022 12:19 PM (Ucl3d)

218
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY

Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence Ideal at July 04, 2022 12:19 PM (wpPM0)

219 Our democracy is far too important to let a bunch of rubes out in flyover country vote in a president that we don't approve.

*

Succinct and to the point. Well done.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - screw anyone here who thinks he should tell Americans what they need or should buy at July 04, 2022 12:20 PM (Ucl3d)

220
HAPPY 4th of JULY

Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence Ideal at July 04, 2022 12:20 PM (wpPM0)

221 Happy Treason Day, peasants!

Posted by: Her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II at July 04, 2022 12:20 PM (rs4lA)

222 Johnny Marks >>>Karl Marx

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 04, 2022 11:42 AM (rzOL9)

hell....Richard Marx>>>Karl Marx
Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:45 AM (AwYPR)
________________

Groucho / Chico/ Harpo Marx >>>> Karl Marx

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at July 04, 2022 12:21 PM (YqDXo)

223
Jay, put a filter before and after the fuel pump.

Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence Ideal at July 04, 2022 12:21 PM (wpPM0)

224 I dunno, I think I would vote for Don Jr

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 12:22 PM (rs4lA)

225 Can't we have common sense parades in the Chicago area, which means no parades anymore.

Posted by: Colin at July 04, 2022 12:24 PM (YVx1O)

226 This is in the "Trending" sidebar on Twatter:

"Viewers react to unfounded claims by radio show host and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones about people becoming 'cyborg slaves of Satan'"

uNfOuNdEd~! HURR DURR~!

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 04, 2022 12:28 PM (IEa8U)

227 if Trump wants to run he deserves the nomination.

Only if Trump has internalized truly that in government there are not only a few bad apples who you can remove. If he realizes that the entire structure is rotten. I really haven't seen a lot to make me think Trump has. DeSantis seems a lot more focused and lethal. But I realize that I don't really understand the mind of the vague middle voter. Not sure if all the anti-Trump lying has hurt him too much with them or if the obscurity of DeSantis to them hurts him too much.

Posted by: azjaeger at July 04, 2022 12:37 PM (3/XaG)

228 Skid>Karl. Hey it's Independence Day!

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230 They work!

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