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AlextheChick: Do You Realize That The Left Has Denied the Legitimacy of Every Single Republican President Since the Elder Bush in 1988?

But remember -- it's a crime to question the legitimacy of Joe Biden, and the FBI will bash down your door and seize your phones and computers if you do.


alexandriabrown
@alexthechick

1988 was 34 years ago. This is not my usual both 2000 and 1980 where 20 years ago whittering (though I am correct about that), this is a discussion about age and the Eternal Now and how the simple passage of time affects political analysis.


I am going to use 18 as a baseline age here because that is US voting age. For anyone 52 years and younger, 1988 was the first Presidential election in which they could vote. That was when GHWB was elected President. You have to be 60 now to have voted for Reagan in 1980

GHWB is the last Republican President to be elected without Democrats claiming his election was illegitimate. 2000 was 22 years ago. For anyone 40 and younger, every Republican President since they were eligible to vote has been considered illegitimate by both Dems and the press.

For those of us upper end Gen X and older, it is difficult to internalize that Bill Clinton being President is as remote to Millennials and younger as, say, Nixon being President is to upper end Gen X. Sure, it happened but that's history. Ancient history.

2008 is 14 years ago. You would have to be at least 32 and then 28 to have voted for Obama. For younger Millennials and upper end Gen Z, that's the President when they were kids and they maybe sorta remember that being a big thing.

2016 is six years ago. You have to be at least 24 to have voted for Trump. The point of going through this chronology is to stress, as many others, that for the last 22 years, every Republican President has been considered illegitimate by large swathes of the press and public.

If you are under 40, you grew up in a world in which a Republican being President was deemed per se illegitimate. You grew up in a world where what those illegitimate Presidents did was per se illegitimate. It is the air you breathed and the water you drank. This is what you know

This is simply the truth. Bush was installed by the Supreme Court and then did *handwave* something wrong to be re-elected, after all, he shouldn't have been President in the first place. Republicans play a game with the Electoral College, which is anti-democratic, to win.

Every Republican President is wrong and everything they do is wrong, and Trump let Russians change votes to make him President so what he did was extra super wrong. Since everything they did is wrong, then every action they took is wrong and SCOTUS is illegitimate. It's logic.

It is irrelevant whether this is true. It is what two generations of people have been told. People believe this because why would those people who are the experts in politics say this if it wasn't true? That's what they are paid to do, that's what they know, they wouldn't lie.

I comprehend the urge to eyeroll when the wailing starts about how SCOTUS is illegitimate because the justices were appointed by Presidents who did not win the popular vote and thus are illegitimate. It is eyeroll worthy. However. Enormous numbers of people who vote believe this.

Many a pixel has been slain, and that's just by me, decrying the total lack of knowledge of how the American electoral system works. Many more have been slain noting how destructive this is to public discourse. I am here to tell you that it will only get worse.

Another part of my internet life is very Left indeed. I keep my mouth shut over there because that's where I go to try to escape politics. I am here to tell you that the Kids These Days do not understand what Dobbs did. They believe, utterly, that abortion was just banned.

They believe that Republicans are an existential threat to democracy and that Republicans should be banned from all manner of things, practicing medicine, practicing law, going to college at all, holding jobs, partaking in society at large. Because Republicans are evil and cheat.

A very few people there know that I have a JD and I was asked privately to explain what Dobbs meant. When I told those people that Dobbs meant states decided abortion laws and that CA and NY now have some of the most permissive laws in the world, I was met with shock.

Why? Because all the news sources they consume told them otherwise. I was accused of lying. I was accused of making it up. And when they went and checked and found out I was correct, the utter cognitive dissonance was painful to behold. Because these sources they trust lied.

The response was not to question worldview and whether those sources were lying to them about other matters. The response was ego defense. Okay well this is wrong but TX banned and that's what the rest of the country will do and they weren't lying, they were just upset!

That is the mental barrier with which messaging that's not fully of the Left, let alone being of the Right, is up against. Two generations of being told that Republicans are evil cheaters who aren't a legitimate political party. Two generations of no civics education, not really.

People don't like to question priors because doing so means admitting you did not interpret the world correctly and the ego will defend against that. It's been +/- 18 years since I've had to admit my view of Middle Eastern geopolitics was absolutely wrong. I'm still bitter.

We discuss Othering and that is also a problem. But there are two generations of Americans for whom a baseline worldview is that if the Republicans win, that can be ignored because it's not legitimate. And that I don't see changing. It's only going to get uglier from here. /fin

Posted by: Ace at 03:31 PM




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1 First?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who might know something about laptop cameras. at July 04, 2022 03:32 PM (PiwSw)

2 Democrats have also introduced articles of impeachment against every Republican president since Nixon.

Posted by: The Fool at July 04, 2022 03:32 PM (1dzqn)

3 Hi AtC!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who might know something about laptop cameras. at July 04, 2022 03:32 PM (PiwSw)

4 You have to be 60 now to have voted for Reagan in 1980

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I resemble that remark.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 03:34 PM (QbCrG)

5 The lines have been drawn now, and can never be erased. I believe things will be resolved the hard way.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 03:36 PM (Vr12I)

6 The Dobbs decision has put a glaring spotlight on this issue, hasn’t it? But now what? I think we all know the issue, though AtC did a great job boiling it down over my rambling rants! But now what do we do?

Posted by: Piper at July 04, 2022 03:36 PM (FXYsU)

7 I mean it's one thing to get an entire guest post like alex here but has she ever had a cartoon skull published? I rest my case.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 03:36 PM (dscaa)

8 Top ten. Happy Independence Day, morons.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 03:36 PM (nByzo)

9 I have no problem educating Lefties if they choose to bring up a subject. No longer staying silent.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 03:36 PM (BsPPV)

10 You have to be 60 now to have voted for Reagan in 1980


Yes and proud that i did

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2022 03:36 PM (Irn0L)

11 Not only deny, taken 2 Republican Presidents down

Posted by: Skip's phone at July 04, 2022 03:37 PM (Usx9u)

12 4 You have to be 60 now to have voted for Reagan in 1980

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I resemble that remark.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 03:34 PM (QbCrG)

Now do Carter. Hmm. Poor phrasing, eh?

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 03:37 PM (Vr12I)

13 I voted for Reagan. My first Presidential vote.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (BsPPV)

14 Reagan was the first president I voted for. Trump was the second. I voted against a lot of candidates in those other elections.

Posted by: huerfano at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (dTFZY)

15

Show us your sweater puppies!

Posted by: Dirty Hairy at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (VLzZI)

16 I comprehend the urge to eyeroll ...

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The new Current Thing white supremacist gesture!

Out: The "Okay" hand sign.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (QbCrG)

17 Imma guessing alex is not here.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (Vr12I)

18 To summarize

The GOP is evil and anything Democrats due to fight it is the just fight. The ends justify the means because Republicans are evil.

Welcome back to the Inquisition and Witch Trials all rolled into one.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (GSEqA)

19 A lot of oldies up in here.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (nByzo)

20 I voted for Reagan. My first Presidential vote.
Posted by: Anti
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I keep forgetting that there are young people here.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (tAjbr)

21 The default Leftists position does seem to be, "Heads I win, Tails you lose."

There is no rational compromise to be reached with that mindset.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (K5n5d)

22 If it wasn't for hypocrisy the Democrats wouldn't have any kind of pocrisy at all.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (VdGjU)

23 IIRC, most of our trolls voted for Goldwater.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 03:39 PM (dscaa)

24 They like it because it gives them a permit to be evil.

It's like being 007 except nobody wants to fuck you.

It's OK to be wrong occasionally Ace. You'll feel better after hoboing tonight.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at July 04, 2022 03:39 PM (uWiZJ)

25 People get old.Beats the alternative.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 03:39 PM (Vr12I)

26 If it wasn't for hypocrisy the Democrats wouldn't have any kind of pocrisy at all.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (VdGjU)

lol

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 03:40 PM (nByzo)

27 A most excellent writing, AtC.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 03:40 PM (4I/2K)

28 The default Leftists position does seem to be, "Heads I win, Tails you lose."

There is no rational compromise to be reached with that mindset.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (K5n5d)

That is why I feel the national divorce people are misguided.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 03:40 PM (nByzo)

29 If it wasn't for hypocrisy the Democrats wouldn't have any kind of pocrisy at all.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (VdGjU)

Monkeypoxcrisy perhaps?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 03:41 PM (4I/2K)

30 And Billy Boy Clinton won 43% and 49% of the vote respectively; in Europe, that would be a coalition government. So the Dems had only one majority-winning President between 1968 and 2008: Jimmy Carter.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 04, 2022 03:41 PM (nDrPh)

31 The irony is that everything the Democrats/Left accuse us of doing is precisely what they are doing.


PROJECTION, anyone.

Posted by: Guidons, Guidons...Lariat Advance at July 04, 2022 03:41 PM (1Kt+g)

32 When all you have is a hammer every problem looks like a nail and democrats only have one tool in their toolbox, calling every republican illegitimate.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 04, 2022 03:41 PM (bVYXr)

33 Was too young to vote for Reagan first time. Was too apathetic the second time. I really was apolitical.

Nixon was the first president I was aware of, but Johnson was president when I was borned.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Non-sequitur professional at July 04, 2022 03:41 PM (x8Wzq)

34 Oh the Empress is here, she is just quietly taking notes on who gets a cot in Alextopia and who gets an Emu Surprise.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 03:41 PM (GSEqA)

35 I registered as a Democrat when I was 18 only because Louisiana was closed primaries at the time. There were no Republicans running.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 03:42 PM (BsPPV)

36 Remember all the " proper" Republicans who scolded people for daring to question the legitimacy of one Obama? It was unseemly, and we were or should be better than tht.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 03:42 PM (Vr12I)

37 That is why I feel the national divorce people are misguided.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 03:40 PM (nByzo)



Exactly! These animals won't let us get a divorce.

Posted by: Guidons, Guidons...Lariat Advance at July 04, 2022 03:42 PM (1Kt+g)

38 Thanxs AtC.
Imma gonna quote some of this...properly footnoted of course.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2022 03:42 PM (anj39)

39 It's pure Will to Power. No morality, no history, just whatever they need to say in the moment to advance their power.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 04, 2022 03:42 PM (7l7Sm)

40 Ahem, I voted for LBJ. And then he sent me to Dominican Republic and VN. Geezer alert!

Posted by: Dingbat at July 04, 2022 03:43 PM (gXrCE)

41 But there are two generations of Americans for whom a baseline worldview is that if the Republicans win, that can be ignored because it's not legitimate. And that I don't see changing. It's only going to get uglier from here. /fin

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The Dems will eventually take a page of the the Darling Zelenskyy Playbook and ban all opposition parties.

You know who else banned all oppostion parties?

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 03:43 PM (QbCrG)

42 JF Kerry(ptui!) still claims Ohio was stolen from him in 2004

Posted by: Blutarski at July 04, 2022 03:43 PM (fgJ4Z)

43 Yes as I often say to my wife "the 80s are to us now what the 50s were to the 80s" and I'm being generous because in actuality the 80s are more like the 40s at this point.

She doesn't like it when I point that out.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 04, 2022 03:43 PM (cMXNt)

44 Clearly it was not known until later misdeeds came to light, but Republicans have regularly voted in to office people who were not virtuous, who, despite their sleeve-worn religion, were not the moral people John Adams referred to as suitable for the Constitution of the United States of America. And when those misdeeds become known, at all levels, rarely does anyone suffer and never do the faithful learn.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 03:43 PM (KAi1n)

45 What's most surprising is that they'll live it up and enjoy a prosperous economy under an illegitimate repub president. Many of them get rich under an illegitimate repub presidency.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 04, 2022 03:43 PM (Qhnrt)

46 ATC: you go girl. You speak truth. I have the same belief as you do. And all this nashing of teeth, screaming and crying about Roe is just show. Most Americans are worried about inflation, gas prices and the future of this country.

Conservatives and those who love America and all the good it stands for need to rise up in November and take back control over our schools, government and society.

F the 4th? How about F the Dems.

Posted by: Czech Chick at July 04, 2022 03:43 PM (haWye)

47 I am rereading Atlas Shrugged.
Despite some overwrought prose, Rand could really nail some of the commie bullshit.
And this about the press:

"The reporters who came to the press conference in the office of the John Galt Line were young men who had been trained to think that their job consisted of concealing from the world the nature of it's events. It was their daily duty to serve as audience for some public figure who made utterances about the public good, in phrases carefully chosen to convey no meaning."

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 04, 2022 03:44 PM (ufFY8)

48 To fix this you must purge the left from the political system and ensure they never return.

Well, how do you do this, you may ask.

Read the Declaration of Independence and then emulate it.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 04, 2022 03:44 PM (KATBx)

49 Thanks for your excellent essay, AtC. It's good that you were able to instruct several people about what the Dobbs decisions meant, and, yes, they will have cognitive dissonance, and most will not examine their worldview. However, it might eventually get some thinking,"If I was lied to about this what else was I lied to about by the media?" If it can happen to me about 15 years ago it can happen to others.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 04, 2022 03:44 PM (FZ2cV)

50 40 Ahem, I voted for LBJ. And then he sent me to Dominican Republic and VN. Geezer alert!
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Wait a min. I Bidened. No way I voted for LBJ. I voted for the R that JFK beat.

Posted by: Dingbat at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM (gXrCE)

51 That is why I feel the national divorce people are misguided.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 03:40 PM (nByzo)

I prefer divorce to war but I'll take war. What I don't want is this continued one step forward two steps back.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM (BsPPV)

52 And then he sent me to Dominican Republic

On a South Com rotation for counter drug I one time met a guy who flew the transports for that little invasion by LBJ at I think Hartsfield. Since I had to then board my plane never got to ask him what it was like.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM (GSEqA)

53 Divorce is the only way.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM (Omzsi)

54 I DIDN'T vote a lot of the time, back when.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 03:46 PM (Vr12I)

55 It's only going to get uglier from here

...


She gets it.

Posted by: Today is bad but tomorrow will be worse at July 04, 2022 03:46 PM (5bO5K)

56 53 Divorce is the only way.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM (Omzsi)


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Dissolution is the only answer.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 04, 2022 03:46 PM (cMXNt)

57 Suite Madame Blue

https://youtu.be/CkkQPxoxJJY

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 03:46 PM (nByzo)

58 34 Oh the Empress is here, she is just quietly taking notes on who gets a cot in Alextopia and who gets an Emu Surprise.
Posted by: Anna Puma

*perks up*

Posted by: Emu Fucker at July 04, 2022 03:46 PM (7DYli)

59 Also Dems: Every Republican President starting with Eisenhower has been the dumbest, most criminal Republican President yet.

But after they pass on, they miraculously become a tolerable and respected Republican President, though still wrong on everything.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 03:46 PM (4I/2K)

60 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 04, 2022 03:47 PM (arJlL)

61 a baseline worldview is that if the Republicans win, that can be ignored because it's not legitimate.

So here's the thing, I think the same thing about Democrat office holders because it's easy to observe.

I'm not going to forget staying up to watch election returns only to have 7 states stop the count and tell us to go to bed, only to admit in the morning that they had counted all night, without adversarial observers, and what do you know, but Biden is ahead by just enough in each of them to avoid triggering automatic recounts. And no one is allowed to audit any of it.

In my own shitty state of Illinois, we led the nation for a decade in people fleeing the state, yet when Pritzker ran in 2018, 400,000 more votes were cast in Chicago than any election in the previous decade and a half, and all went to him.

Posted by: Methos at July 04, 2022 03:47 PM (kOpft)

62 A lot of womYnses in CA and NY are going to be shocked to find out they can still get abortions on demand post Roe.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:47 PM (Omzsi)

63 Emu Fucker

No.... You get the Raptor Special

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 03:47 PM (GSEqA)

64 Cornspiracy theory!

Posted by: Cornbread Maxwell at July 04, 2022 03:47 PM (Tc2CN)

65 It's pure Will to Power. No morality, no history, just whatever they need to say in the moment to advance their power.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 04, 2022 03:42 PM (7l7Sm)

Which most learn in whatever law skool they attended.

Just win baby! Morals, honesty and above all the law be damned.

Posted by: Urban Meyer, Kollege Cheater and Groper at July 04, 2022 03:47 PM (R/m4+)

66 The default Leftists position does seem to be, "Heads I win, Tails you lose."

There is no rational compromise to be reached with that mindset.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Billy and Johnny are walking down the sidewalk, and find a dollar bill. Billy wants to keep the entire dollar, Johnny says that they ought to split it, $.50 each.

They are quibbling over it when a Liberal adult happens by. (cont'd)

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2022 03:47 PM (XQDUp)

67 Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 03:43 PM (KAi1n)

Is that sarcasm or a double helping of weed?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 03:48 PM (BsPPV)

68 Divorce is the only way.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM (Omzsi)

I'm not giving them half of anything. Besides they will *never* be satisfied with half.

As I always say, a "divorce" would mean freedom-loving people living right next door to a nuclear armed hybrid of Mexico, California and Iran. And they won't ever be satisfied leaving us alone. Fuck that noise. Ain't an option.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 03:48 PM (dscaa)

69 Great thread by ATC - I am sharing it everywhere

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 03:48 PM (/jQbM)

70 PROJECTION, anyone.

Posted by: Guidons, Guidons...Lariat Advance at July 04, 2022 03:41 PM (1Kt+g)

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If it wasn't for PROJECTION, the Dems would have no IONS at all.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 03:48 PM (QbCrG)

71 AtC is on point here, and her #TwitterLawSchool threads are a must-read!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at July 04, 2022 03:48 PM (v23vE)

72 52 On a South Com rotation for counter drug I one time met a guy who flew the transports for that little invasion by LBJ at I think Hartsfield. Since I had to then board my plane never got to ask him what it was like.
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It was exciting seeing 130 after 130 heading south. Many were overloaded (like the one I was on). Entire 82nd moved in days.

Posted by: Dingbat at July 04, 2022 03:48 PM (gXrCE)

73 'there are two generations of Americans for whom a baseline worldview is that if the Republicans win, that can be ignored because it's not legitimate.'

If we ever get the upper hand, those calling themselves the media get no quarter.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 04, 2022 03:48 PM (roH4R)

74 yeah when my allegedly pro-life NT relative sent me all these emails describing how horrible Trump was, in 2016 - I replied: this is exactly what the argument against Reagan was in 1980.

Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 03:48 PM (dCxaZ)

75 Bolskeviks claimed the Romanovs were in league with the Germans during WWI and it was them being paid fully by the Germans

Posted by: Skip's phone at July 04, 2022 03:49 PM (Usx9u)

76
Welcome back to the Inquisition and Witch Trials all rolled into one.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 03:38 PM (GSEqA)

A good comparison.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 04, 2022 03:49 PM (Qhnrt)

77 56 53 Divorce is the only way.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM (Omzsi)


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Dissolution is the only answer.

But they won't permit it!!

Posted by: Conservative commentariat at July 04, 2022 03:49 PM (Tc2CN)

78 That is why I feel the national divorce people are misguided.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 03:40 PM (nByzo)

I prefer divorce to war but I'll take war. What I don't want is this continued one step forward two steps back.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM (BsPPV)

If I am going to have my preference we wouldn't be here. But here we are. At war. Unconditional surrender is the only rational position to take in the face of the premise of the "Heads I win, tails you lose" mindset. IMO.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 03:49 PM (nByzo)

79 Rome to Carthage, "If it is war you want, then war you will get."

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 03:50 PM (GSEqA)

80 (cont'd):
"Boys! Boys! You musn't fight over this. Now Billy, you want it all, and, Johnny you want to split it evenly. A compromise is in order. Billy gets $.75 and Johnny gets $.25. See! Compromise! It's always a good thing."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2022 03:50 PM (NZ1lp)

81 Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 03:48 PM (dscaa)

What do you propose?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 03:50 PM (BsPPV)

82 Elon Musk met with the Pope, but as of yesterday the Vatican has not confirmed:

https://tinyurl.com/5n62y5sz

Fr. Mark Goring discusses Vatican silence on YT:

https://tinyurl.com/2p8xku9e

Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 03:51 PM (dCxaZ)

83 Very cogent Dr. ATC

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 04, 2022 03:51 PM (WF/xn)

84 It all goes back to that bastard Chad. If he hadn't been hanging around, everything would have been Jake.

Posted by: The Dems at July 04, 2022 03:51 PM (/NCI4)

85 62 A lot of womYnses in CA and NY are going to be shocked to find out they can still get abortions on demand post Roe.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:47 PM (Omzsi)

And if that bill in CA gets passed, they get to have a 1 month trial period with the newborn baby and if it doesn't work out, no criminal charges!

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who might know something about laptop cameras. at July 04, 2022 03:51 PM (PiwSw)

86 yeah when my allegedly pro-life NT relative sent me all these emails describing how horrible Trump was, in 2016 - I replied: this is exactly what the argument against Reagan was in 1980.
Posted by: kallisto

And the NeverTrumpers endlessly doing dramatic readings of Reagan quotes on podcasts and TV undermined him, just like they did Trump, when he was actually in office.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at July 04, 2022 03:51 PM (7l7Sm)

87 Well I need to scoot, I have a crisis on my hands. The batteries in the Roku remote have died.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 03:52 PM (GSEqA)

88 Other than trade, there is no reason to be a united states of America. We can go our separate ways and just keep a nafta type trade system in place since that benefits everyone. Other than that, every state makes its own rules about taxes, abortion, guns, immigration, etc.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:52 PM (Omzsi)

89 I remember when Ike was President and I loved that guy. I voted for Nixon when he was re-elected, and have to say when compared to clintoon, ubama, and bai-din, Nixon was a saint. I realized GHW was big politics but was willing to cut W some slack. A lotta slack. I just went into some kind of shock when just 8 years after 9/11 a muslim got into the White House. Glad I lived to see hellary got the slobber knocked outta her, but then the dems actually outright stole an election. That makes the SECOND illegitimate pResident they've hand since kennedy.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2022 03:52 PM (0OP+5)

90 Thread babes.

https://bit.ly/3R6Neyp

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 03:52 PM (nByzo)

91 How come come no one has ever challenged the Democrats about this?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 03:52 PM (VdGjU)

92 The State Legislatures pack a lot of political punch. The GOP controls 62, the degenerates control 36. Growing up in the 80s, that would have been unimaginable. The WuFlu certainly undermined state legislative power.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 04, 2022 03:52 PM (nDrPh)

93 68
68 Divorce is the only way.

I'm not giving them half of anything. Besides they will *never* be satisfied with half. As I always say, a "divorce" would mean freedom-loving people living right next door to a nuclear armed hybrid of Mexico, California and Iran. And they won't ever be satisfied leaving us alone. Fuck that noise. Ain't an option.

Who said anything about half? And who gives a flying fuck what the commies will be satisfied with? Its Independence Day brotha! Buck up

Posted by: Conservative commentariat at July 04, 2022 03:53 PM (Tc2CN)

94 Divorce is the only way.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM

They just won't do it. They desire control at large and obedience for the individual. That's why they so often eat their own when they stray. They wouldn't be content to have leftist "utopias" in CA and NY. TX, OK, FL, etc. must be made to conform.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 03:53 PM (ftFVW)

95 Picture of Musk standing at attention with the Pope.

Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence' Ideal at July 04, 2022 03:54 PM (wpPM0)

96
What do you propose?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 03:50 PM (BsPPV)

Well.........

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 03:54 PM (dscaa)

97 We've all seen the comments from the hundred year old veteran

The greatest generation is rolling over in their graves

… and we just all stand around rolling our eyes?

Posted by: kactus at July 04, 2022 03:54 PM (GQHcT)

98 Is Elon Catholic?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:54 PM (Omzsi)

99 One parting thought

There will be no velvet divorce because the Democrat Party Cult is full of bunny boilers who want to go full Amy Bishop on the heretics.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 03:55 PM (GSEqA)

100 98 Is Elon Catholic?
===
Is the Pope Catholic?

Posted by: Dingbat at July 04, 2022 03:55 PM (gXrCE)

101 98 Is Elon Catholic?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:54 PM (Omzsi)


I don't think he professes any faith. However he is firmly pro-life and he thinks population explosion is a myth.

Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 03:55 PM (dCxaZ)

102 92 The State Legislatures pack a lot of political punch. The GOP controls 62, the degenerates control 36. Growing up in the 80s, that would have been unimaginable. The WuFlu certainly undermined state legislative power.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 04, 2022 03:52 PM (nDrPh)

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Yeah, those GOPee-controlled legislatures in what, 6 of the 7 battleground states which were stolen in 2020 (including my own of AZ) really helped us out.

/But you make a fair point; we need to Make Subsidiarity Great Again!

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 03:55 PM (QbCrG)

103 I don't want to divorce them. I want them to divorce from the land of the living.

Posted by: Ken at July 04, 2022 03:56 PM (RXE8a)

104 Picture of Musk standing at attention with the Pope.
Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence' Ideal

Gotta keep those cheeks clenched.
Believe me!

Posted by: Joe Biden at July 04, 2022 03:56 PM (7l7Sm)

105 When Trump was elected the deep state (read: permanent Dem government) not only hamstrung him and openly ignored his orders, but established a coup against him. They would have done the same to a President Pence Or Romney

Posted by: Blutarski at July 04, 2022 03:56 PM (Q7f21)

106 There will be no velvet divorce because the Democrat Party Cult is full of bunny boilers who want to go full Amy Bishop on the heretics.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 04, 2022 03:55 PM (GSEqA)

I always said we need to Brier Rabbit their ass. Make them think it's their idea.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 03:56 PM (BsPPV)

107 Is Elon Catholic?
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Is the Pope Catholic?
Posted by: Dingbat
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The latter is the greater question.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2022 03:56 PM (id1Da)

108 If it wasn't for PROJECTION, the Dems would have no IONS at all.

*cough*

Corruption
Degradation
Manipulation
Falsification
Adulteration...

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 03:56 PM (/NCI4)

109 And the reason the FBI will come crashing in is because those 40-somethings who've believed this lie their whole lives are now in positions of power in government.

No way possible to vote our way out of this.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 04, 2022 03:57 PM (4ZE6o)

110 I dunno. I think most libs would be more than happy to divorce amicably. They are convinced they subsidize all the cousin humping states. They way to market it to them is We would be doing them a favor by leaving.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:57 PM (Omzsi)

111 They just won't do it. They desire control at large and obedience for the individual. That's why they so often eat their own when they stray. They wouldn't be content to have leftist "utopias" in CA and NY. TX, OK, FL, etc. must be made to conform.
*

Yep. Remember when California was furious that NC wouldn't allow perverts to use the bathroom with little girls?

They don't care about freedom. They care about control.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - screw anyone here who thinks he should tell Americans what they need or should buy at July 04, 2022 03:57 PM (Ucl3d)

112 94 Divorce is the only way.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM

They just won't do it. They desire control at large and obedience for the individual. That's why they so often eat their own when they stray. They wouldn't be content to have leftist "utopias" in CA and NY. TX, OK, FL, etc. must be made to conform.


Soooo, disappointing to read on Independence Day! Who gives a shit what they desire, and why do you defer to their desires? this is slave talk

Posted by: Conservative commentariat at July 04, 2022 03:57 PM (Tc2CN)

113 TX, OK, FL, etc. must be made to conform.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04,
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Those Okies are kinda funny, gentle in a mid-western plains kind of way. Don't let that fool you.


Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence' Ideal at July 04, 2022 03:57 PM (wpPM0)

114 Divorce is the only way.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM

They just won't do it. They desire control at large and obedience for the individual. That's why they so often eat their own when they stray. They wouldn't be content to have leftist "utopias" in CA and NY. TX, OK, FL, etc. must be made to conform.
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 03:53 PM (ftFVW)

Our enemies marched NATO right up to Russia's front door, provoking the war in Ukraine, and have openly opined about replacing Putin to bring Russia under their control.

They're not going to let us go peacefully.

Posted by: Methos at July 04, 2022 03:58 PM (kOpft)

115 Time to reconsider Nullification?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2022 03:58 PM (id1Da)

116 The keying of cars with unpopular license plates could become a thing.... already happening for unacceptable stickers.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 03:58 PM (Vr12I)

117 Is Elon Catholic?
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Does a bear tweet in the woods?

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 03:59 PM (yikp0)

118 When Trump was elected the deep state (read: permanent Dem government) not only hamstrung him and openly ignored his orders, but established a coup against him. They would have done the same to a President Pence Or Romney
Posted by: Blutarski at July 04, 2022 03:56 PM (Q7f21)

Concur. The parasites known as the federal government are the problem.

Like a tapeworm in your colon. Now how do you get rid of a 4 foot long blood sucking worm in your gut?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2022 03:59 PM (R/m4+)

119 They would have done the same to a President Pence Or Romney

*

Nonsense. Pence and Romney are part of the club.

Did anyone ever identify the man who gave Pence the challenge coin immediately after he removed Trump from office, BTW? Arguably the most secure building in the world, and that unknown man walked right up and paid Pence for services rendered.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - screw anyone here who thinks he should tell Americans what they need or should buy at July 04, 2022 03:59 PM (Ucl3d)

120 I don't think he professes any faith. However he is firmly pro-life and he thinks population explosion is a myth.

Bad Cattitude's analysis of Swedish birth rates says Musk is right.

Posted by: Methos at July 04, 2022 03:59 PM (kOpft)

121 I'm seeing the name Justin Schainburg as the suspect over at Breitbart.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 04, 2022 03:59 PM (nDrPh)

122

If Helen Keller falls over in the woods, does she make a sound?

Posted by: Ken Shabby at July 04, 2022 04:00 PM (ZPXm1)

123 88 Other than trade, there is no reason to be a united states of America. We can go our separate ways and just keep a nafta type trade system in place since that benefits everyone. Other than that, every state makes its own rules about taxes, abortion, guns, immigration, etc.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 03:52 PM (Omzsi)

A confederation. Looks like the south might win after all. I'm not against this arrangement considering the present situation.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 04, 2022 04:00 PM (Qhnrt)

124 Time to reconsider Nullification?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2022 03:58 PM (id1Da)

Passed, both at an individual (to the extent feasible) and state level. We are post law. No reason that one side should be held to account.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:00 PM (nByzo)

125 This is another great thread btw

https://twitter.com/McCormickProf/status/
1278529694355292161

1/ I sometimes ask students what their position on slavery would have been had they been white and living in the South before abolition. Guess what? They all would have been abolitionists! They all would have bravely spoken out against slavery, and worked tirelessly against it.

2/ Of course, this is nonsense. Only the tiniest fraction of them, or of any of us, would have spoken up against slavery or lifted a finger to free the slaves. Most of them—and us—would have gone along. Many would have supported the slave system and happily benefited from it.

3/ So I respond by saying that I will credit their claims if they can show evidence of the following: that in leading their lives today they have stood up for the rights of unpopular victims of injustice whose very humanity is denied, and where they have done so knowing:

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:00 PM (/jQbM)

126 What motivates the Left is the fear that someone, somewhere is having a good time.

It would be like trying to "divorce" Ted Bundy after finding out what he was and confronting him about it.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 04:00 PM (dscaa)

127 Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 03:43 PM (KAi1n)

Is that sarcasm or a double helping of weed?
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter

Neither. I'm in between sets in my workout. Currently on dumbbell curls.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 04:01 PM (KAi1n)

128 Let me clarify: Pence and Romney would have played along, same as Bush (and McCain and that piece of sh*t Ryan) did. It would all be an act, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - screw anyone here who thinks he should tell Americans what they need or should buy at July 04, 2022 04:01 PM (Ucl3d)

129 Soooo, disappointing to read on Independence Day! Who gives a shit what they desire, and why do you defer to their desires? this is slave talk
Posted by: Conservative commentariat
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After, The Rant, it's been nothing but publishing commie wins.

Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence' Ideal at July 04, 2022 04:01 PM (wpPM0)

130 Bad Cattitude's analysis of Swedish birth rates says Musk is right.

Posted by: Methos at July 04, 2022 03:59 PM (kOpft)


yes, according to Elon's tw@ttage, he has facts and stuff at his disposal

Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 04:01 PM (dCxaZ)

131 The USS North Carolina participated in most of the island hopping campaigns and lost only lost 10 men. That's a charmed battleship.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 04:01 PM (BsPPV)

132 122 If Helen Keller falls over in the woods, does she make a sound?
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How does a blind person know when they have wiped enough?

Posted by: Dingbat at July 04, 2022 04:01 PM (gXrCE)

133 92 The State Legislatures pack a lot of political punch. The GOP controls 62, the degenerates control 36. Growing up in the 80s, that would have been unimaginable. The WuFlu certainly undermined state legislative power.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 04, 2022 03:52 PM (nDrPh)


That totals out to 100 and it should only be 99 due to Nebraska's Unicameral (which leans right).

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at July 04, 2022 04:02 PM (v23vE)

134 125 continued

4/ (1) that it would make them unpopular with their peers, (2) that they would be loathed and ridiculed by powerful, influential individuals and institutions in our society; (3) that they would be abandoned by many of their friends, (4) that they would be called nasty names, and

5/ (5) that they would risk being denied valuable professional opportunities as a result of their moral witness. In short, my challenge is to show where they have at risk to themselves and their futures stood up for a cause that is unpopular in elite sectors of our culture today.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:02 PM (/jQbM)

135 It's a good writeup. The first step to understanding why and how us millennials do the things that we do is to understand that we don't actually remember much of anything before 1998.

The second step is to understand that most of our understanding of the world was shaped by 24/7 'news' channels and the internet.

The third step is to understand that we were, for the most part, spoiled children enjoying the benefits of the 1990s vacation from history (oh, how I love that term) who always got what we wanted and never had to shoulder much responsibility.

The fourth step is to understand that the internet is deeply ingrained in our psyche and it strongly colors our perception of reality. On the internet, nobody knows you're a squirrel...or that you aren't a squirrel.

I could come up with more steps, but...the fifth step is to understand that we're rather lazy and ADD-ish, and Lazy/ADD C++ is tired of writing steps and has some other things to take care of.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 04:02 PM (UewuT)

136 Despite some overwrought prose, Rand could really nail some of the commie bullshit.

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Rand nailed all sorts of stuff.

As I see airlines canceling flights en masse due to "weather" and ending service to smaller cities due to "staffing shortages," it occurs to me that the Great Shrugging is already underway.

More and more posts are going unmanned and few seem to notice. At some point, no one will answer 911 anymore, stores will close, the buses will stop running...

Posted by: Not John Galt at July 04, 2022 04:02 PM (1dzqn)

137 So I respond by saying that I will credit their claims if they can show evidence of the following: that in leading their lives today they have stood up for the rights of unpopular victims of injustice whose very humanity is denied, and where they have done so knowing:

*

Like not buying Nike shoes?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - screw anyone here who thinks he should tell Americans what they need or should buy at July 04, 2022 04:02 PM (Ucl3d)

138 If Helen Keller falls over in the woods, does she make a sound?
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Depends. Is she masturb@ting with one hand?

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:02 PM (yikp0)

139 It is time to consecrate the bonds of obedience. Assume the position.

*thwack!*

Thank you, sir! May I have another?

Posted by: Dreams of a Progressive at July 04, 2022 04:03 PM (4I/2K)

140 Soooo, disappointing to read on Independence Day! Who gives a shit what they desire, and why do you defer to their desires? this is slave talk

Posted by: Conservative commentariat at July 04, 2022 03:57 PM (Tc2CN)

There is nothing about deference, it's about knowing your enemy and considering your options accordingly.

Also I'm with them. Fuck the Fourth until further notice.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 04:03 PM (dscaa)

141 Pretty funny clip of VP KumSwalla asked if she and Biden had discussed codifying Roe into law. And her response was no, but what we need is for Democrats to win in November so we can help women.

Uhm so you have power now, you will not use that power, but if we vote for you and give you power then you will do what you just said you will not do.

Got it.

Lol

I think Dems are starting to wake up to how they have been played by their party on abortion.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:03 PM (Omzsi)

142 118 When Trump was elected the deep state (read: permanent Dem government) not only hamstrung him and openly ignored his orders, but established a coup against him. They would have done the same to a President Pence Or Romney
Posted by: Blutarski at July 04, 2022 03:56 PM (Q7f21)

Concur. The parasites known as the federal government are the problem.

Like a tapeworm in your colon. Now how do you get rid of a 4 foot long blood sucking worm in your gut?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2022 03:59 PM (R/m4+)

violent emetic then radical surgery. Gonna be a lot of pain.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2022 04:03 PM (0OP+5)

143 Dissolution is not the answer. We fought a Civil War to settle that.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 04, 2022 04:03 PM (KATBx)

144 It's like we are suffering wife beating and our husband is chief of cops so you can't just off him so only the only solution is radioactive particles in his Aunt Obama Syrup.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at July 04, 2022 04:04 PM (uWiZJ)

145 Corruption
Degradation
Manipulation
Falsification
Adulteration...
Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 03:56 PM (/NCI4)
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Tension, apprehension and dissention have begun.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at July 04, 2022 04:04 PM (aaGzp)

146 40:
My dad, who would be 94 if he hadn't died 10 years ago, was jamming hostile radio stations during the Dominican Republic intervention. Years later he told us LBJ was an incompetent ditherer who obviously couldn't make up his mind which advisors to listen to. They'd jam the radios for an hour, then get orders from the White House to stop jamming, then be told to start jamming again an hour after that - back and forth, over and over. He figured the Joint Chiefs wanted the jamming to protect our troops, some civilian worried about 'world opinion' (possibly Robert McNamara) wanted no jamming - as if world opinion wouldn't have complained just as much about something else - and LBJ was the kind of idiot who followed the advice of whichever advisor had talked to him last. Just guesswork, but it was the only analysis that made sense.

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at July 04, 2022 04:04 PM (I1Sr3)

147 Mt first vote for President was in 1976. I threw it away on John Anderson. By 1980, I was a conservative. At least I can proudly say I never voted for a Democrat.

Posted by: cfo mom at July 04, 2022 04:04 PM (Q8bDL)

148 Dissolution is not the answer. We fought a Civil War to settle that.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 04, 2022 04:03 PM (KATBx)

Prezactly.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:05 PM (nByzo)

149 (3) that they would be abandoned by many of their friends, (4) that they would be called nasty names, and

this is what happens to those believers who leave cults, like Scientology and JW. They are shunned and unpersoned, even by their parents and children.

Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 04:05 PM (dCxaZ)

150 NPR used to read the declaration every July 4 on their morning program. Not this year. Because the language is too divisive and not inclusive.

Divorce bitches. Divorce now!!

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:05 PM (Omzsi)

151 Harry Truman was the man when I came into the world and, if recollecting accurately, Gerry Ford was the first vote cast.

Posted by: Agitator at July 04, 2022 04:05 PM (8Avx7)

152 Mt first vote for President was in 1976. I threw it away on John Anderson. By 1980, I was a conservative. At least I can proudly say I never voted for a Democrat.

Posted by: cfo mom at July 04, 2022 04:04 PM (Q8bDL)

I voted Nader in 2000, to my eternal shame.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:05 PM (nByzo)

153 States rights at its core could be divorce, every state making its own laws but Leftists wi never allow it.

Posted by: Skip's phone at July 04, 2022 04:05 PM (Usx9u)

154 114 gee sounds scary. Second look at that independence thing??

Posted by: Conservative commentariat at July 04, 2022 04:06 PM (Tc2CN)

155 There is nothing wrong with what I said. After 8 years of Dubbleyoo, we had 2 wars, the Patriot (spit) Act, more out-of-control spending, and what to show for it? Then when the Republican party briefly held both branches of Congress and the Prez in 2017-2019, look what happened. You wonder why the hard left appears attractive to a lot of young people? Yeah, they don't get what comes with the shiny wrapping paper, but at least the politicians they support are serious about getting them that shiny wrapping paper.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 04:06 PM (KAi1n)

156 147 Mt first vote for President was in 1976. I threw it away on John Anderson. By 1980, I was a conservative. At least I can proudly say I never voted for a Democrat.
Posted by: cfo mom at July 04, 2022 04:04 PM (Q8bDL)

He did a better job as singer for Yes.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who might know something about laptop cameras. at July 04, 2022 04:06 PM (PiwSw)

157 144 It's like we are suffering wife beating and our husband is chief of cops so you can't just off him so only the only solution is radioactive particles in his Aunt Obama Syrup.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at July 04, 2022 04:04 PM (uWiZJ)


there actually used to be a woman in S. Philly called the Black Widow who gave battered wives the formula to an herbal concoction that would off their mates. I think she would have sold her soul for some radioactive particles.

Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 04:07 PM (dCxaZ)

158 After 30 years of reading the D of I on July 4th, NPR has decided instead to give you liberals talking about why America sucks. One wonders how many people would voluntarily give them the money they now extract in taxes?

https://tinyurl.com/dbz6cvs2

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 04:07 PM (/NCI4)

159 I never voted for a Democrat

Posted by: Skip's phone at July 04, 2022 04:07 PM (Usx9u)

160 I voted for Clinton in 1996. I was and young and stupid. What can I say? And besides Clinton 96 would be a rabid right winger in 2022 according to the new standards of today.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:07 PM (Omzsi)

161 I voted for Clinton in 1996.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:07 PM (Omzsi)

You win.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:08 PM (nByzo)

162 Freedom? That is a worship word, Yang worship. You will not speak it.

Posted by: Cloud William at July 04, 2022 04:08 PM (4I/2K)

163 146 40: My dad, who would be 94 if he hadn't died 10 years ago, was jamming hostile radio stations during the Dominican Republic intervention. Years later he told us LBJ was an incompetent ditherer who obviously couldn't make up his mind which advisors to listen to.
===
Initial echelon was rigged to jump but they diverted us to Puerto Rico where we spent the night sleeping on the tarmac under the wings while LBJ diddled. The next day they air landed us.

Posted by: Dingbat at July 04, 2022 04:09 PM (gXrCE)

164 The USS North Carolina participated in most of the island hopping campaigns and lost only lost 10 men. That's a charmed battleship.
Posted by: Anti
-----

I have toured the ship.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2022 04:10 PM (kT/t7)

165 147 Mt first vote for President was in 1976. I threw it away on John Anderson. By 1980, I was a conservative. At least I can proudly say I never voted for a Democrat.
Posted by: cfo mom

Anderson ran in 1980 against Reagan and Carter. Hence the slogan, "a vote for Anderson's a vote for Reagan".

Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 04:10 PM (KAi1n)

166 I voted for Clinton in 1996.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:07 PM (Omzsi)


Monica and I thank you.

Posted by: Bubba Clinton at July 04, 2022 04:11 PM (VYjdj)

167 134 5/ (5) that they would risk being denied valuable professional opportunities as a result of their moral witness. In short, my challenge is to show where they have at risk to themselves and their futures stood up for a cause that is unpopular in elite sectors of our culture today.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:02 PM (/jQbM)


There's a part of me that's happy that Covid and its authoritarian chicanery played out the way it did. Never again do I have any reason to suspect that these self-righteous "civil rights" liberals have even a tiny bit of devotion to their ostensible cause. It's all a facade, and will be treated accordingly.

On the other hand, I've gained a lot of respect for guys like Glenn Greenwald who stuck to their guns when it wasn't socially convenient to do so. The last few years have been interesting, finding out who the heroes and villains truly are.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 04:11 PM (UewuT)

168 My first prez vote went to W for his second term. I was pretty motivated in that vote at the time. But man I feel dumb knowing what I know now. Then again, there is no way I would've voted for Kerry, so I guess there is no point in seeking out a time machine to go back and warn myself.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 04:11 PM (ftFVW)

169 Covid made me realize that states do matter. All the bullshit happened in 7-10 states. Tye vast majority of the country was freed up quickly.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:12 PM (Omzsi)

170 Being an erstwhile Democrat, I did not vote in a number of elections. It takes a while for people to switch over from a lifetime of being one way, sometimes.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:12 PM (Vr12I)

171 Dissolution is actually the only answer that is possible to survive. The war between the states started the long march away from federalism toward central control - exactly opposite from what the Founders (most of them) intended. A multiple state solution of the parts without a war would make it less likely for foreign interference and ultimate control by that influencer.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 04, 2022 04:12 PM (oWBc3)

172 Avenge me! Avenge! Me!

Posted by: Gary Hart at July 04, 2022 04:12 PM (4I/2K)

173 New grim milestone for Biden administration...

||President Joe Biden's border with Mexico is the deadliest land crossing in the world, according to a United Nations group, the International Organization for Migration.

"More than 1,238 lives have been lost during migration in the [north, central and south] Americas in 2021, among them at least 51 children," said the group’s July 1 report.||

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:12 PM (yikp0)

174 After 30 years of reading the D of I on July 4th, NPR has decided instead to give you Delaware's Own Joe Biden firing a shotgun through a closed door, followed by him firing a load in his pants.

Posted by: It's art! at July 04, 2022 04:12 PM (VYjdj)

175 153 States rights at its core could be divorce, every state making its own laws but Leftists wi never allow it.

There it is again. that thing about what Leftists will allow.

Maybe if we begged them?

Posted by: Glad the founders aren't reading this thread at July 04, 2022 04:13 PM (Tc2CN)

176 Yes I do realize it

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:13 PM (bs+z0)

177 I spent this weekend in York,PA eating homemade scrapple, shooting ground hogs and drinking rum in good company.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 04, 2022 04:13 PM (9eK5M)

178 My first US vote was for Al Gore.
*hangs head in shame*

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:13 PM (/jQbM)

179 I supported Cthulhu in each of the last 10 presidential elections. I regret nothing.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 04:13 PM (/NCI4)

180 153 States rights at its core could be divorce, every state making its own laws but Leftists wi never allow it.
Posted by: Skip's
---------------

Used to be that way.

Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence' Ideal at July 04, 2022 04:13 PM (wpPM0)

181 Someone upthread mentioned "bad cattitude".

Here he analyzes Swedish data to find a decrease in birth rate 9 months post mRna jab rollout:

https://tinyurl.com/mr3sa6nj

Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 04:14 PM (dCxaZ)

182 I have toured the ship.
------------------------------------
A 3-hour tour?

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:14 PM (yikp0)

183 Dissolution is actually the only answer that is possible to survive. The war between the states started the long march away from federalism toward central control - exactly opposite from what the Founders (most of them) intended. A multiple state solution of the parts without a war would make it less likely for foreign interference and ultimate control by that influencer.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 04, 2022 04:12 PM (oWBc3)

Convention of the states is another possibility that could reign in some of the worst excesses of the central planners. I give that about as much chance of success as dissolution.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:14 PM (nByzo)

184 172 Avenge me! Avenge! Me!
Posted by: Gary Hart at July 04, 2022 04:12 PM (4I/2K)

Hey, if Gary Hart would run again, and Mike Pence would be the Veep, we could have a HartpencePence Ticket!

Or Mike could be the top of the ticket, then it would be PenceHartPence.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who might know something about laptop cameras. at July 04, 2022 04:14 PM (PiwSw)

185 Monica and I thank you.
Posted by: Bubba Clinton at July 04, 2022 04:11 PM (VYjdj

I help when I can.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:14 PM (Omzsi)

186 I spent this weekend in York,PA eating homemade scrapple, shooting ground hogs and drinking rum in good company.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

It'd been nice if things didn't go in that exact order

Posted by: zombie gorund hog at July 04, 2022 04:14 PM (VYjdj)

187 178 My first US vote was for Al Gore.
*hangs head in shame*
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:13 PM (/jQbM)

From one convert to another - no shame! Sometimes converts are the most zealous, vmom!!

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:14 PM (Vr12I)

188 The last Dem I voted for was Jimmy Carter I'm ashamed to say.. Unless you count McCain . He did a pretty good imitation of a Dem

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:15 PM (bs+z0)

189 They just won't do it. They desire control at large and obedience for the individual. That's why they so often eat their own when they stray. They wouldn't be content to have leftist "utopias" in CA and NY. TX, OK, FL, etc. must be made to conform.

It's a world-wide phenom!!!

There were actually protests in Australia by Australians protesting the overturning of RvW in the US.

Let that massage your cerebellum for a few minutes.

Aussies whining about US policy that doesn't affect them in the least. And, wanting to do something about it.

Any wonder that the "Great" Reset is aimed like a dagger straight at the heart of America?

Controlling assholes want to control.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 04, 2022 04:15 PM (5NkmN)

190 Just a thought that came to me the other day... you know all those businesses that are understaffed and having to cut back hours? Well consider that all the software in use is from companies with the same problems. Expect things to fall apart in unusual ways.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2022 04:15 PM (YynYJ)

191 Clinton a rabid right winger? Even as suggested , "by comparison", that made me chuckle. You don't know Bill. He would be whatever he needed to be to be powerful and popular.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 04, 2022 04:15 PM (oWBc3)

192 WORSHIP AND DESPAIR, HORDE!

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 04, 2022 04:15 PM (GbPPJ)

193 Clinton was my first Pres I voted for. And the last Democrap. Was 18.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 04, 2022 04:15 PM (9eK5M)

194 My first US vote was for Al Gore.
*hangs head in shame*
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:13 PM (/jQbM)

From one convert to another - no shame! Sometimes converts are the most zealous, vmom!!

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:14 PM (Vr12I)

Yep. Chin up, and stabbing implements at the ready, missy.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:15 PM (nByzo)

195 Some of the things that Dubya did were necessary to clean up our Cold War messes. Unfortunately the neocons never made any attempt to look toward the future, and so made themselves obsolete by 2010.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 04:15 PM (UewuT)

196 I supported Cthulhu in each of the last 10 presidential elections. I regret nothing.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 04:13 PM

Ia, ia, Cthulhu fhtagn!

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 04:15 PM (ftFVW)

197 Yep. Chin up, and stabbing implements at the ready, missy.
Posted by: Comrade flounder,

*strokes blades lovingly*

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:16 PM (/jQbM)

198 I voted for McGovern.

Posted by: Theodore at July 04, 2022 04:17 PM (GJnvT)

199 I was over at the 'rents eating steak om nom nom.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 04, 2022 04:17 PM (GbPPJ)

200 Jake @SiIentRunning
Another shot from the Highland Park mass shooting.

Hadn't seen this clip on here.
Sounds like nearly 60 shots fired in this one alone.

https://twitter.com/SiIentRunning/status/
1544040782813954051

[26 seconds]

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:17 PM (yikp0)

201 The precipitous birth rate decline coincides with the emergence of the birth control pill.

Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence' Ideal at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM (wpPM0)

202 My first vote was for Dukakis....

Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM (KAi1n)

203 190 you know all those businesses that are understaffed and having to cut back hours? Well consider that all the software in use is from companies with the same problems. Expect things to fall apart in unusual ways.

ah. i was just going to blame it on agile.

Posted by: anachronda is not agile at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM (I38CQ)

204 We were all young and stupid once. Some of us drNk too much some of us voted Democrat. No shame if you are voting D at 18. Its when you’re still doing it at 50, then yiu are retarded ( to paraphrase Churchill).

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM (Omzsi)

205 200 Jake @SiIentRunning
Another shot from the Highland Park mass shooting.

Hadn't seen this clip on here.
Sounds like nearly 60 shots fired in this one alone.

https://twitter.com/SiIentRunning/status/
1544040782813954051

[26 seconds]
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:17 PM (yikp0)

Twats sez it does not exist.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM (Vr12I)

206 192 WORSHIP AND DESPAIR, HORDE!
Posted by: alexthechick

*burns votive candle made from rendered GOPE lard*

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM (/jQbM)

207 My first vote was for Dukakis....
Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM

I'm not sure I would have admitted that.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 04:19 PM (ftFVW)

208 Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:00 PM (/jQbM)

Akshewallee, that's exactly what happened with my branch of the naturalfakes.

Greatgreatgranddaddy naturalfake was converted to Quakerism. He freed his sslaves, sold his lands, and moved to Kansas, where-

we naturalfakes became everyone's favorite dirt-farmers, cardsharpers, cattle rustlers, train robbers , and horse thieves,

Posted by: naturalfake at July 04, 2022 04:19 PM (5NkmN)

209 AOC decides to fight the power by....doing her nails.

No, I'm not kidding.

https://tinyurl.com/yc3cwnuy

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 04:19 PM (/NCI4)

210 203 190 you know all those businesses that are understaffed and having to cut back hours? Well consider that all the software in use is from companies with the same problems. Expect things to fall apart in unusual ways.

ah. i was just going to blame it on agile.
Posted by: anachronda is not agile at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM (I38CQ)


Embrace the power of and! It's never a good time to not blame agile for problems, especially when it involves hardware development.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 04:20 PM (UewuT)

211 Take out the spaces on the link. I counted 21.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2022 04:20 PM (YynYJ)

212 Alex the Chick:
You have always impressed me with your grasp and analysis of the situation. Today's post is exceptional. My respect for your mind is immense.

/No, I'm not hitting on you, I am happily married to Mrs. Bonecrusher.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at July 04, 2022 04:20 PM (hrRsI)

213 The USS North Carolina participated in most of the island hopping campaigns and lost only lost 10 men. That's a charmed battleship.
Posted by: Anti
-----

I have toured the ship.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 04, 2022 04:10 PM (kT/t7)

We had a very nice retirement ceremony on it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2022 04:20 PM (Irn0L)

214 No news of shooter huh? Tells me all I need to know. A leftist and most likely non white. This story will be gone by tomorrow.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:20 PM (Omzsi)

215 207 My first vote was for Dukakis....
Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM

I'm not sure I would have admitted that.
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 04:19 PM (ftFVW)

It was the photo of him in the tank, wasn't it?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who might know something about laptop cameras. at July 04, 2022 04:21 PM (PiwSw)

216 First time I voted it was Bill Clinton. Even attended a rally. Gotta admit, fooker could work a crowd. His lovely bride was not there.

A year after his inauguration I was listening to Rush Limbaugh. So, in a way, a good thing.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Non-sequitur professional at July 04, 2022 04:21 PM (x8Wzq)

217 I have customer that I need to support with troubleshooting tools that don't work.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2022 04:21 PM (YynYJ)

218 214 No news of shooter huh? Tells me all I need to know. A leftist and most likely non white. This story will be gone by tomorrow.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:20 PM (Omzsi)

They claim he is white

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:21 PM (bs+z0)

219 these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be, Free and Independent States; that they are absolved from all Allegiance to the [trillion $ socialist behemoth fka the feral gubmint], and that all political Connection between them and the [the aforesaid], is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm Reliance on the Protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor


Eh, never mind, the left will never allow it!

Posted by: Glad the founders aren't reading this thread at July 04, 2022 04:22 PM (Tc2CN)

220 Actually, to be fair, lowercase agile has some useful things to say about dealing with changing requirements. It's uppercase Agile and its dogmatic consulting priesthood that made a mess of things. Amusingly, most of the guys who signed the manifesto now say that it sucks, and are being paid to steer businesses away from the thing that they were previously paid to steer businesses into. Make of that what you will.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (UewuT)

221 Thank you, Bonecrusher.

*burns votive candle made from rendered GOPE lard*
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM (/jQbM)



This is the Way.

(by the by, that's a Twats thread from, like days ago)

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (GbPPJ)

222 214 No news of shooter huh? Tells me all I need to know. A leftist and most likely non white. This story will be gone by tomorrow.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:20 PM (Omzsi)

I was thinking the same thing; if we don't know name/race/ROP status by EOD, then it was the scary black bangstick that went off by itself and killed those people.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, who might know something about laptop cameras. at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (PiwSw)

223 Posted by: naturalfake at July 04, 2022 04:19 PM (5NkmN)

Proud lineage!!!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (/jQbM)

224 >>> I don't think he professes any faith. However he is firmly pro-life and he thinks population explosion is a myth.
Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 03:55 PM (dCxaZ)


I believe he pays his employees to murder their children.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (0fVbu)

225 eating scrapple
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BTW, Scrabble has banned 400 words from its official dictionary [as used in Scrabble championships] for woke reasons.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (yikp0)

226 Before Trump, W was the only "winner" I voted for.. And he turned out to be a winner and I don't mean in a good way

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (bs+z0)

227 They claim he is white
Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:21 PM (bs+z0)

They, also claim Lea Thompson is a female swimmer.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (Omzsi)

228 No news of shooter huh? Tells me all I need to know. A leftist and most likely non white. This story will be gone by tomorrow.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:20 PM (Omzsi)

They claim he is white
Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:21 PM (bs+z0)

Driving a white panel van?

Posted by: Lee Boyd Malvo at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (4I/2K)

229 216 First time I voted it was Bill Clinton. Even attended a rally. Gotta admit, fooker could work a crowd. His lovely bride was not there.

A year after his inauguration I was listening to Rush Limbaugh. So, in a way, a good thing.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Non-sequitur professional at July 04, 2022 04:21 PM (x8Wzq)

Huh.Limbaugh was the one who turned me. Before him, I'd never considered what was really going on. He was a great man.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (Vr12I)

230 I have voted Dem once in my life. I voted for Chuck Robb, because he was a Marine, and reupped for combat in Vietnam.

I got better.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 04:24 PM (/NCI4)

231 BTW, Scrabble has banned 400 words from its official dictionary [as used in Scrabble championships] for woke reasons.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (yikp0)

Thereby rendering itself useless and unofficial.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:24 PM (nByzo)

232 What we need are strong governors, state legislatures and courts. We can still try to win at the National level but it won't change much unless we rein in the bureaucracy.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2022 04:24 PM (YynYJ)

233 181 Here he analyzes Swedish data to find a decrease in birth rate 9 months post mRna jab rollout:

saw something on freerepublic saying the same about taiwan; claiming a 26 sigma (!) drop in the birth rate.

Posted by: anachronda is not agile at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (I38CQ)

234 My first vote was for Dukakis....
Posted by: SFGoth

am i the only one that flashed to the snl skit with john lovitz? where they had dueling platform heights.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (MrZQl)

235 My first vote was for Dukakis....
Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM

I'm not sure I would have admitted that.
Posted by: She Hobbit

I was 21 and the opponent was Herb Bush. Wasn't voting Rethuglican. My first choice was Paul Tsongas.
:->

Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (KAi1n)

236 BTW, Scrabble has banned 400 words from its official dictionary [as used in Scrabble championships] for woke reasons.


Did it add xir, xhim, and xhey? What about otherkin?

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (/NCI4)

237 If you have access to hbo there’s an old mini series called Adams. I think the second episode covers the continental congress and the declaration

Posted by: Blutarski at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (eDdhz)

238 The Left can win, through election manipulation , virtually any race they care to win.

As importantly the corruption of the DOJ as well as most big city DA's by Soros et al means The Left is not/cannot be held accountable for their election fraud , or other seditious crimes.

And who thinks McCarthy/McConnell give a tinkers damn about any of the above?

Trump knows all of this and how he must go about the domestic/political cleansing will be ........sporty.
At best.

Posted by: Voter theater. at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (pJMW1)

239 First vote I ever cast, on any ballot, was for Ronald Reagan in 1980.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (Oqkrg)

240 ... @ 7 - In case no one else has mentioned this,

Victory Bewbs >> Flaming Skull

Posted by: butch at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (O6InG)

241 I believe he pays his employees to murder their children.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (0fVbu)


any Tesla or SpaceX workers out there care to confirm?

Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 04:26 PM (dCxaZ)

242 Convention of the states is another possibility that could reign in some of the worst excesses of the central planners. I give that about as much chance of success as dissolution.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:14 PM (nByzo)

------

An article V convention of states voting to dissolve the Federal government is the only answer.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at July 04, 2022 04:26 PM (cMXNt)

243
Victory Bewbs >> Flaming Skull
Posted by: butch at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (O6InG)

Pudding cups

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:26 PM (bs+z0)

244 AtC you are a super talented writer. There are few who I put in that grade.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 04:26 PM (dscaa)

245 31 The irony is that everything the Democrats/Left accuse us of doing is precisely what they are doing.

PROJECTION, anyone.
Posted by: Guidons, Guidons...Lariat Advance at July 04, 2022 03:41 PM (1Kt+g)


Recently, I've noticed the that the leftist scum Sorosbots on Twatter have adopted a new tactic after having being repeatedly called out for their non-stop projection: "no u lol".

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik [DHS Verdict: MDM] at July 04, 2022 04:26 PM (DTX3h)

246 Here he analyzes Swedish data to find a decrease in birth rate 9 months post mRna jab rollout:

saw something on freerepublic saying the same about taiwan; claiming a 26 sigma (!) drop in the birth rate.


It's certainly worth following, but I think a reduction in the number of people who thought it was a good time to have a child is at least as likely an explanation.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 04:26 PM (/NCI4)

247 Limbaugh got me on the path too. I just stumbled on him once in the car. And was like what the fuck is this guy? And I was hooked.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:26 PM (Omzsi)

248 I read that as Scrapple dictionary and was confused.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 04, 2022 04:27 PM (GbPPJ)

249 220 Actually, to be fair, lowercase agile has some useful things to say about dealing with changing requirements. It's uppercase Agile and its dogmatic consulting priesthood that made a mess of things. Amusingly, most of the guys who signed the manifesto now say that it sucks, and are being paid to steer businesses away from the thing that they were previously paid to steer businesses into. Make of that what you will.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (UewuT)

------

Thank God that Current Thing hit near the end of my software development career. Pair-programming was the stupidest and least productive idea I'd ever encountered to that point ... reminded me of doing college science lab projects with an idiot partner whom you had to work twice as hard to carry on your back.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 04:27 PM (QbCrG)

250 It was the photo of him in the tank, wasn't it?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes

I still remember where I was when I saw that cringeworthy footage. No, it was the fact that he wasn't the Republican nominee.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 04:27 PM (KAi1n)

251 eating scrapple
------------------------
BTW, Scrabble has banned 400 words from its official dictionary [as used in Scrabble championships] for woke reasons.
Posted by: andycanuck

Scrapple, such as it is, is more honest and true than Scrabble.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 04:27 PM (Msys3)

252 If you have access to hbo there’s an old mini series called Adams. I think the second episode covers the continental congress and the declaration
Posted by: Blutarski at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (eDdhz)

I have access via the DVD set on my shelf. I liked it a lot. Paul Giamatti was excellent.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Non-sequitur professional at July 04, 2022 04:27 PM (x8Wzq)

253 saw something on freerepublic saying the same about taiwan; claiming a 26 sigma (!) drop in the birth rate.

Posted by: anachronda is not agile at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (I38CQ)


there have been reports (from doctors and medical personnel) that miscarriages and stillbirths have increased. And last week a study published that correlated lower sperm count in men with the mRna jab.

so declining birth rate not a surprise

Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 04:28 PM (dCxaZ)

254 BTW, Scrabble has banned 400 words from its official dictionary [as used in Scrabble championships] for woke reasons.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (yikp0)

Thereby rendering itself useless and unofficial.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:24 PM (nByzo)
***
I just don't fegibizxy care.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2022 04:28 PM (anj39)

255 It's certainly worth following, but I think a reduction in the number of people who thought it was a good time to have a child is at least as likely an explanation.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 04:26 PM (/NCI4)

I had the same thought. Further study is necessary.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:28 PM (nByzo)

256 Worse than I thought.

At least six people were killed and 31 others were hospitalized following a shooting at a 4th of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois, on Monday.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 04:28 PM (FVME7)

257 BTW they seem to be dispensing with the word "slave" now. It is now "enslaved people".

Why would they get rid of "slave", you ask? Most likely because that's what they're turning us into.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 04:28 PM (dscaa)

258 *burns votive candle made from rendered GOPE lard*
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM


Could you have donated more to the GOPe, and gotten a bigger one? AtC is sensitive to certain things, and may take some umbrage at being represented by a short candle.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 04, 2022 04:28 PM (a3Q+t)

259 250 It was the photo of him in the tank, wasn't it?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes

I still remember where I was when I saw that cringeworthy footage. No, it was the fact that he wasn't the Republican nominee.
Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 04:27 PM (KAi1n)


Horseface Kerry in the Bunny Suit ( clean suit) is my all time favorite!!

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:28 PM (Vr12I)

260 The epa scotus decision could be a big deal. I say could because the left often just ignores rulings it disagrees with.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:28 PM (Omzsi)

261 Thank God that Current Thing hit near the end of my software development career. Pair-programming was the stupidest and least productive idea I'd ever encountered to that point ... reminded me of doing college science lab projects with an idiot partner whom you had to work twice as hard to carry on your back.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 04:27 PM (QbCrG)

Nonsense! This way, your Brave and Stunning Woke colleague who is BIPOC LBGTQUERTY can make just as much money as you do, and not even have to Lean to Code. It's Genius!

Posted by: Your HR Department at July 04, 2022 04:29 PM (PiwSw)

262
See Igor Chudov's substack for more birthrate analysis. Scroll down, he has several posts on this about various countries:

https://tinyurl.com/2h2pqeph

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 04, 2022 04:29 PM (Mzdiz)

263 If you have access to hbo there’s an old mini series called Adams. I think the second episode covers the continental congress and the declaration
Posted by: Blutarski at July 04, 2022 04:25 PM (eDdhz)

What a coincidence.
I was just going to say that 1776 is on TCM, and that I will probably fire up John Adams on HBO

It was an awesome miniseries.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 04, 2022 04:29 PM (ufFY8)

264 They, also claim Lea Thompson is a female swimmer.
Posted by: Joe XiDen

To be fair, Lea Thompson IS female.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 04:29 PM (KAi1n)

265 Nice one from Postcards from Barsoom :

https://tinyurl.com/26yrepr3

He suggests excommunication and revoking voting rights.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2022 04:30 PM (YynYJ)

266
Avenge me! Avenge! Me!
Posted by: Gary Hart


Out: Monkey Business
In: Monkey Pox

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2022 04:30 PM (63Dwl)

267 *adds to Duncanthrax's Book of Grievance*

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 04, 2022 04:30 PM (GbPPJ)

268 Worse than I thought.

At least six people were killed and 31 others were hospitalized following a shooting at a 4th of July parade in Highland Park, Illinois, on Monday.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 04:28 PM


Yet Illinois has some of the most restrictive gun laws on the book in the nation. Go figure.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 04, 2022 04:30 PM (bVYXr)

269 Any reduction in births in the Covidian Age could well be a consequence of the industrial strength fearmongering and mass psychosis, just sayin'. But I totally do expect the shot to have some interesting long term side effects simply because they didn't do a lot of testing and nobody gets it right on the first attempt.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 04:30 PM (UewuT)

270 The obligatory calls for congress to 'take action on guns' came within moments after the shooting.

This is like a bad 90s conspiracy theory movie.

Every shooting is them moving the football forward towards the inevitable conclusion.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 04, 2022 04:30 PM (G0bXQ)

271 Twats sez it does not exist.
Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:18 PM (Vr12I)
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Holy crap. Censored already. Unless the original tweeter deleted it? [Or some type of twatter eff-up?]

It should be visible still through this Disqus comment:
http://disq.us/p/2poy2za

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:30 PM (yikp0)

272 a wonderful article. hope she has security - love her but the leftists can't let this get out

Posted by: Isolden at July 04, 2022 04:31 PM (dB99g)

273 Illinois will bow double ban guns.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:31 PM (Omzsi)

274 I mean it's one thing to get an entire guest post like alex here but has she ever had a cartoon skull published? I rest my case.

Victory Tits >>>>>>>>>>>> cartoon skull

Posted by: Ian S. at July 04, 2022 04:31 PM (1TuZk)

275 Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 04, 2022 04:29 PM (Mzdiz)

thanks

Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 04:31 PM (dCxaZ)

276 Nice one from Postcards from Barsoom :

https://tinyurl.com/26yrepr3

He suggests excommunication and revoking voting rights.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2022 04:30 PM (YynYJ)

Thanks. I am willing to entertain alternatives, as a replacement solution or in a transitional phase.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:31 PM (nByzo)

277 That is the mental barrier with which messaging that's not fully of the Left, let alone being of the Right, is up against.

No. The mental barrier is simply being impolite. Making a scene.

The Left always makes the most stupid points, loudly, because the trick is being loud. The Right hates being impolite.

You know what else is impolite ? Not forming a nice line on the way into the camps. And you watch, when those of the Right are marching in step through those gates, and somebody gets out of line and gums up the works, it won't be somebody of the Left that corrects them.

It'll be somebody well and truly of the Right.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 04:32 PM (X3zUe)

278 I’m confused. Biden just signed a sweeping gun control law. Did the shooter not know of it?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:32 PM (Omzsi)

279 I was in the Army when Nixon got gone and they were worried we might have to fight someone. I worry about that now.

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2022 04:32 PM (+ya+t)

280 247 Limbaugh got me on the path too. I just stumbled on him once in the car. And was like what the fuck is this guy? And I was hooked.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:26 PM (Omzsi)

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My political awakening occurred in the early 80's while in college and reading newspaper editorials. I noticed that all the opinion pieces on the right were rational and consistent with liberty, whereas the left argued straight from emotion and consistent with tyranny.

Anyway, William Safire had an essay where he basically said: the difference between conservatives and liberals is that conservatives value liberty/freedom over security/safety, whereas liberals value security/safety over liberty/freedom.

Then a friend turned my on to Ayn Rand, and I was off to the races ... reading Friedman, Sowell, Hayek, et. al.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 04:33 PM (QbCrG)

281 Pair-programming was the stupidest and least productive idea I'd ever encountered to that point ... reminded me of doing college science lab projects with an idiot partner whom you had to work twice as hard to carry on your back.
Posted by: ShainS

During the last year of work before I retired, I was paired with a person whom did not put in a full week for that entire year. Not one.

There wasn't a damn thing we could do about her. I trashed her during her probationary period. Nope, still there. After 6 months, same same.

No thanks fellas, I'll see myself out.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 04:33 PM (Msys3)

282 Great post AtC. Spot on.

Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 04:34 PM (nxdel)

283 We all had hoped the light of freedom burned in hearts of all men. Apparently not in middle east or china. At least not in adequate quantity. We beleive we had to stop or kill the bad guys in charge who were extinguishing that flame.

Yes it's been humbling but also more appreciative of the uniqueness of special ness of the multi millenia hard earned jacksonian and Jeffersonian tradition that began at earnest with Martin Luther andagna Carta and culminated with the Constitution. And has been ina bstate of entropy since.

Constitutionalist have to accept our only choice is a civil war we may not win and of we do their institutional power would rewrite or yet another flight and secession.

Posted by: Shiggz at July 04, 2022 04:34 PM (0SrVS)

284 He was a great man.
Posted by: kraken
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Before Rush one had to search and dig for information.
Then there he was, three hours a day, exposing dems and republicans for what the were.

Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence' Ideal at July 04, 2022 04:34 PM (wpPM0)

285 Will Biden get Ferris Bueller to do a White House speech like he got Wooderson for a TX shooting?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:35 PM (Omzsi)

286 BTW, Scrabble has banned 400 words from its official dictionary [as used in Scrabble championships] for woke reasons.

It's a gig.

Posted by: zombie Winston Smith at July 04, 2022 04:35 PM (VYjdj)

287 Nice one from Postcards from Barsoom :
https://tinyurl.com/26yrepr3
He suggests excommunication and revoking voting rights.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2022 04:30 PM (YynYJ)


He(?) sounds unpleasantly whack-a-doodle to me when he starts yammering on about a "white ethnic state".

Pass.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 04, 2022 04:36 PM (5NkmN)

288 Will Biden get Ferris Bueller to do a White House speech like he got Wooderson for a TX shooting?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:35 PM (Omzsi)

Dan Ackroyd.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 04:36 PM (4I/2K)

289 I might have been at least JFK-curious had I been active in the 60s, but being that I'm a millennial I never had any interest in what the left was selling. It was obvious even in the late 90s that they had a strong authoritarian streak that was gaining ground against the Old Left that were earnestly into the civil rights thing.

I voted for a lot of third party candidates in my Minnesota years. D was thugs, R was a mix of stonks-and-wars fossils and various lightweights who felt entitled to wear the crown.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 04:36 PM (UewuT)

290 Postcards from Barsoom :

Bazooms from Barsoom would be nice too.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 04, 2022 04:36 PM (ufFY8)

291 Limbaugh got me on the path too. I just stumbled on him once in the car. And was like what the fuck is this guy? And I was hooked.

My college roommate one day was like "you've gotta listen to this guy, he's wild". And of course it was the Maha Rushie. Loved him almost immediately.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 04, 2022 04:36 PM (1TuZk)

292 Maybe get all John Hughes movie actors to push for gun bans since Ll those movies took place in the northern Chicago ‘burbs.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:36 PM (Omzsi)

293 Look at media again. How many tv shows are there that celebrate family? I watched an episode of Elementary, where Watson interacted with a baby. It was clear she loved babies. It shocked me how few times we see that now.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2022 04:37 PM (YynYJ)

294 Breaking911 @Breaking911
MANHUNT FOR HIGHLAND PARK SHOOTER:
- White male
- Approx. 18-20-years-old
- Long black hair
- Small build
- White or blue T-shirt
1:59 PM · Jul 4, 2022

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:37 PM (yikp0)

295 Has the shooter been apprehended or better yet put out of everyone's misery?

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 04:38 PM (2JoB8)

296 Love AtC, but...

What a waste of words just for every Prog on Twitter to copypaste "Yeah but we never terroristed and insurrected the cApItOl!!!!"

You are throwing pearls before swine, Alex.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 04:38 PM (M9XmQ)

297 tl ; dr

Posted by: esquincle at July 04, 2022 04:38 PM (OVGnc)

298 294 Breaking911 @Breaking911
MANHUNT FOR HIGHLAND PARK SHOOTER:
- White male
- Approx. 18-20-years-old
- Long black hair
- Small build
- White or blue T-shirt
1:59 PM · Jul 4, 2022
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:37 PM (yikp0)


Add in Pencil-thin arms and you've got David Hogg.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 04, 2022 04:39 PM (PiwSw)

299 Limbaugh got me on the path too. I just stumbled on him once in the car. And was like what the fuck is this guy? And I was hooked.

Gotta' admit, never liked him in total early on. His politically incorrect NFL picks were great. But whenever on the spot, whenever he had a "W" or Rumsfeld or other such heavy hitter on, he'd throw softball after softball.

Late in his career, when he finally got disillusioned with the GOP ? Then I could listen for an hour.

The best thing about Limbaugh through the years were the Paul Shanklin parodies. Now those were comedy gold.

I know - I just spoke sacrilege.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 04:39 PM (X3zUe)

300 269 Any reduction in births in the Covidian Age could well be a consequence of the industrial strength fearmongering and mass psychosis, just sayin'.

thus demonstrating the true perfidy of putin's invasion of ukraine. curse you putin! *shakes fist*

Posted by: kulak anachronda at July 04, 2022 04:39 PM (I38CQ)

301 Breaking911 @Breaking911
MANHUNT FOR HIGHLAND PARK SHOOTER:
- White male
- Approx. 18-20-years-old
- Long black hair
- Small build

- White or blue T-shirt
1:59 PM · Jul 4, 2022
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:37 PM (yikp0)


Trannie? Ellen Page-style.

Posted by: naturalfake at July 04, 2022 04:40 PM (5NkmN)

302 Legally I think all abortion law is simply declaring some segment of the population an outlaw. No different than the old west when a person was declared an outlaw by a judge. The unborn have the same legal status as an outlaw in these circumstances so they are an outlaw.

It would be like a state saying everyone between the ages of 32 and 34 is now an outlaw. If somehow you survive your 34th then your legal status suddenly changes to not being an outlaw. But until then your legal status exists outside any protection of law. It's similar to the status of slaves in that the unborn can be considered property for purpose of calculating loss but possess no legal status for themselves.

There does not exist any person that doesn't realize how abhorrent abortion is. Regardless of where they lie on the to murder or not they stood before the full light of truth before making their decision.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 04, 2022 04:40 PM (0fVbu)

303 Got my jump to conclusions mat out - antifa soy boy

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 04, 2022 04:40 PM (oWBc3)

304 Add in Pencil-thin arms and you've got David Hogg.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at July 04, 2022 04:39 PM (PiwSw)
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Blue shirt. He was in uniform.

Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence' Ideal at July 04, 2022 04:40 PM (wpPM0)

305 - White male
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When did they start doing that again?

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 04:41 PM (dscaa)

306 My college library had several right wing magazines which I read. One of them was New American which iirc was John birch. Looking back on it is wild to think that colleges used to have, yiu know, information available.

Today probably Time is as right wing as they allow.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:41 PM (Omzsi)

307 Pencil-thin mustache > Pencil-thin arms

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 04:41 PM (ftFVW)

308 Does ANYONE know todays whereabouts of David Hogg?

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:41 PM (Vr12I)

309
Eh, never mind, the left will never allow it!
Posted by: Glad the founders aren't reading this thread at July 04, 2022 04:22 PM (Tc2CN

You know, most of us here in OK don't give a shit what the left will allow or not allow.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 04, 2022 04:41 PM (Qhnrt)

310 290 Bazooms from Barsoom would be nice too.

this is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: deja thoris at July 04, 2022 04:42 PM (I38CQ)

311 BTW, Scrabble has banned 400 words from its official dictionary [as used in Scrabble championships] for woke reasons.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:23 PM (yikp0)

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I'm guessing those white scrapple supremacists don't count ebonics words either ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 04:43 PM (QbCrG)

312 Breaking911 @Breaking911
MANHUNT FOR HIGHLAND PARK SHOOTER:
- White male
- Approx. 18-20-years-old
- Long black hair
- Small build
- White or blue T-shirt

-
Hair and small build? Clears me.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 04:43 PM (FVME7)

313 If you have never.
https://www.hudson.org/research/13258-the-jacksonian-revolt

Posted by: Shiggz at July 04, 2022 04:43 PM (0SrVS)

314 By be on the lookout guess no on apprehension

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 04:43 PM (2JoB8)

315 Breaking911 @Breaking911
NEW: President Biden says he has "surged Federal law enforcement to assist in the urgent search for the shooter" following July Fourth parade attack in Highland Park, Illinois

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/
1544051527395983363

[...senseless gun violence; includes 'surged' typo in press release.]

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:43 PM (yikp0)

316 AtC, great rant, and yeah, having to admit one was wrong is hard.

I knew, back when, TARP was stupid. I was never for that, but, I excused GW for that, because, yay, WOT.

Now? I think GW set the table for the looming economic disaster and also set the table for the US to lose much of its prestige, in the world.

However, I also know that's on me, and I do not blame others for my incorrect understanding of what actually happened. In other words, I am capable of eventually learning from my mistakes.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 04, 2022 04:43 PM (5pTK/)

317 My college library had several right wing magazines which I read. One of them was New American which iirc was John birch. Looking back on it is wild to think that colleges used to have, yiu know, information available.

Today probably Time is as right wing as they allow.
Posted by: Joe XiDen

I would suggest Political Affairs is as far right as they will go.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 04:43 PM (Msys3)

318 Anyway, William Safire had an essay where he basically said: the difference between conservatives and liberals is that conservatives value liberty/freedom over security/safety, whereas liberals value security/safety over liberty/freedom.

Actually, conservatives value liberty/freedom over security/safety, whereas liberals value power. Raw, utter, political power.

If you want a picture of the liberal future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 04, 2022 04:44 PM (I2/tG)

319 *adds to Duncanthrax's Book of Grievance*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 04, 2022 04:30 PM


Wait, I'm not the one who purchased a *votive* candle!

Upon reflection, I believe this implies I have my own *book* within which you are recording putative grievances?

This may not bode well.

At least it's not a BOUS*.

*Book Of Unusual Size*

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 04, 2022 04:44 PM (a3Q+t)

320 My dad got me watching Rush when he had the tv show. Didn't like the way he was always hawking his books. Old man says just listen and I was hooked.

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2022 04:44 PM (+ya+t)

321 283 We all had hoped the light of freedom burned in hearts of all men. Apparently not in middle east or china. At least not in adequate quantity. We beleive we had to stop or kill the bad guys in charge who were extinguishing that flame.

Yes it's been humbling but also more appreciative of the uniqueness of special ness of the multi millenia hard earned jacksonian and Jeffersonian tradition that began at earnest with Martin Luther andagna Carta and culminated with the Constitution. And has been ina bstate of entropy since.

Constitutionalist have to accept our only choice is a civil war we may not win and of we do their institutional power would rewrite or yet another flight and secession.
Posted by: Shiggz at July 04, 2022 04:34 PM (0SrVS)To be fair, the prominent 'religion' in the middle east does not allow freedom, much less civilization. It was silly of us to think so.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2022 04:44 PM (0OP+5)

322 308 Does ANYONE know todays whereabouts of David Hogg?

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:41 PM (Vr12I)

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Anal swabbing Fauci?

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 04:44 PM (QbCrG)

323 The best thing about Limbaugh through the years were the Paul Shanklin parodies. Now those were comedy gold.

In a Yugo still cracks me up!

Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 04:44 PM (nxdel)

324 I know - I just spoke sacrilege.
Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 04:39 PM (X3zUe)
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Rush before internet was a beacon in the dark.
Wolfman Jack of politics.


Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence' Ideal at July 04, 2022 04:44 PM (wpPM0)

325 When I stumbled onto Rush I was 19 and not really political. For someone my age who just casually watched the news or read a newspaper the liberal way was the default position. He made me question a lot of it. Which les me to reading things lije National Review (whcih was good back then) and so on.

In a pre internet world, Rush had a yuuuge impact in tht way for many people like me.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:45 PM (Omzsi)

326 Where do I find the victory bewbs?

Posted by: Theodore at July 04, 2022 04:45 PM (GJnvT)

327 the feebs have the shooter in a safe house prolly

Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 04:45 PM (dCxaZ)

328 315 Breaking911 @Breaking911
NEW: President Biden says he has "surged Federal law enforcement to assist in the urgent search for the shooter" following July Fourth parade attack in Highland Park, Illinois

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/
1544051527395983363

[...senseless gun violence; includes 'surged' typo in press release.]
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:43 PM (yikp0)


" Surged". Good Lord, that's bad - that's Breitbart Bad!!!

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:45 PM (Vr12I)

329 Never voted for a democrat though I’d consider it if I found one that made sense. I once voted for an insurance commissioner in Kansas that was under indictment. He wasn’t a democrat. My entire adult life the democrats have been anti American. I don’t trust anyone who voluntarily associates with them. Either stupid or malicious

Posted by: Blutarski at July 04, 2022 04:46 PM (iLvV2)

330 Legally I think all abortion law is simply declaring some segment of the population an outlaw.

It's pretty damn simple - when is a person a person ? Is it at "conception" ? I don't even know how to define that - is the moment when I get to the happy place ? Is it at the moment my fastest swimmer gets to the stubborn membrane ?

Most people, me included, will agree on somewhere after the morning after. So if the reluctant woman wants to take that morning after pill - that's fine with me and most like me. If she wants to do something at the point where the kid has a heartbeat and little limbs moving around ? That's a person - there better be a damn good compelling reason.

Wherever it lands in the middle, I'll leave for other folks to figure out.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 04:46 PM (X3zUe)

331 Breaking911 @Breaking911
MANHUNT FOR HIGHLAND PARK SHOOTER:
- White male
- Approx. 18-20-years-old
- Long black hair
- Small build
- White or blue T-shirt
1:59 PM · Jul 4, 2022
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:37 PM (yikp0

Something tells me we're heading toward another Richard Jewell situation here.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 04, 2022 04:46 PM (Qhnrt)

332 BTW, Scrabble has banned 400 words from its official dictionary [as used in Scrabble championships] for woke reasons.

How can it do that? LOL
Disappear words? What are they, the word mafia

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 04, 2022 04:47 PM (Irn0L)

333 Fun fact: Adam "Pencil Neck" Schiff's wife is named Eve.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 04, 2022 04:47 PM (a3Q+t)

334 Breaking911 @Breaking911
NEW: President Biden says he has "surged Federal law enforcement to assist in the urgent search for the shooter" following July Fourth parade attack in Highland Park, Illinois

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/
1544051527395983363

[...senseless gun violence; includes 'surged' typo in press release.]
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:43 PM (yikp0)
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The FBI is going for "desired investigative outcome" and will make sure they wholly own the investigation. Expect leaks to friendly reporters in order to create buzz and hot takes which are 180 degrees from the truth.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 04, 2022 04:47 PM (5pTK/)

335 @308: "Does ANYONE know todays whereabouts of David Hogg?"

It turns out his pillow company was really a pillow biting escort service, and it still failed anyways.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 04, 2022 04:47 PM (4NlP1)

336 Someone tell Joe and the feds to butt out.

But they can't or won't.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2022 04:47 PM (R/m4+)

337
In a Yugo still cracks me up!
Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 04:44 PM (nxdel)

Me too.. And banking queen

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:47 PM (bs+z0)

338 I have been young and I have been stupid, but never enough of either to vote D. Of course when your Dad, in SAC at the time, disappears for days on end when JFK was doing his dance with Russia and then got sent to the jungles of SE Asia by LBJ - for nothing, you get educated pretty quickly about those assholes.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 04, 2022 04:48 PM (oWBc3)

339 I prefer divorce to war but I'll take war. What I don't want is this continued one step forward two steps back.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 03:45 PM

In my opinion, we have been in a war with the American left since at least 2000. It has just been that only the American Left was fighting it. American conservatives refused until around 2016 to believe that the media and the Democrat Party and the American Left in general were not their political opponents, but their enemies in a 'cold' civil war they have been waging.

People seem to think of a war only in terms of physical fighting, like the American Civil War. They throw around terms like "the culture war", but don't treat it as such. But whenever I see people say they expect some future civil war, the line from Pirates of the Caribbean comes to mind: "You best start believing in ghost stories, Miss Turner... you're in one."

Conservatives best start believing in American civil war... because we've been in one for decades now. Only the Left is the only one who has been fighting it. Long march through the institutions -- media, schools, universities, Hollywood, FBI, CIA, CDC, FDA.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 04, 2022 04:48 PM (Do5/p)

340 31 The irony is that everything the Democrats/Left accuse us of doing is precisely what they are doing.

Or sometimes they just lie to lie. Obama after Trump was elected- The peaceful transition of power is one of the hallmarks of our democracy.

Liar, serving the Father of Lies.

Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at July 04, 2022 04:48 PM (SmFPm)

341 Biden has to urge police to look for the shooter? So before he did that they were just chillin’ at donut shops?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:49 PM (Omzsi)

342 If the killer's gun was stolen, the ammo also, and the killer carefully wiped off every possibility of prints, he can be forever in the wind if he keeps his mouth shut.

Would be unique, but certainly possible. Shit you read in novels.

But security cameras. Unless he was super stealthy about that, too. A small skinny 40 year old is a possibility.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 04, 2022 04:49 PM (4ZE6o)

343 Come on! The guy writing Biden's press releases has a stutter!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:50 PM (yikp0)

344
But security cameras. Unless he was super stealthy about that, too. A small skinny 40 year old is a possibility.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 04, 2022 04:49 PM (4ZE6o)

Or a small long black haired Woman

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:50 PM (bs+z0)

345 Fireworks shows scheduled for this evening cancelled in various towns all around "Chicagoland."

That term, "Chicagoland," is the largest collection of contiguous cities in America. More than L.A.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 04, 2022 04:51 PM (4ZE6o)

346 https://tinyurl.com/2da8n6y7
20 Tweets from Bad Blue
Twitter in 1775

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 04:51 PM (2JoB8)

347 White OR blue t shirt ?

I can see saying white or beige. Black or gray. But white or blue? Da fuq kind of description is that. Why even bother mentioning a color.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:51 PM (Omzsi)

348 Where do I find the victory bewbs?
Posted by: Theodore at July 04, 2022 04:45 PM (GJnvT)


Both VT and VT2 are in the massive ADD that is my Twitter timeline.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 04, 2022 04:51 PM (GbPPJ)

349 It is Illinois-they lurv big gubmint.

And I think Joe just surged in his pants.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 04, 2022 04:51 PM (ufFY8)

350 It's pretty damn simple - when is a person a person ? Is it at "conception" ? I don't even know how to define that - is the moment when I get to the happy place ? Is it at the moment my fastest swimmer gets to the stubborn membrane ?

Most people, me included, will agree on somewhere after the morning after. So if the reluctant woman wants to take that morning after pill - that's fine with me and most like me. If she wants to do something at the point where the kid has a heartbeat and little limbs moving around ? That's a person - there better be a damn good compelling reason.

Wherever it lands in the middle, I'll leave for other folks to figure out.
Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 04:46 PM (X3zUe)

Remember how it turned out with the gays. Safe legal and rare became post-birth abortions.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 04, 2022 04:52 PM (b2nrj)

351 Rush before internet was a beacon in the dark.
Wolfman Jack of politics.


Come on, man. Even me, with only three channels to see in the early eighties as a kid - got to see Milton Friedman on the Phil Donahue show. Multiple times.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 04:52 PM (X3zUe)

352 What a waste of words just for every Prog on Twitter to copypaste "Yeah but we never terroristed and insurrected the cApItOl!!!!"

You are throwing pearls before swine, Alex.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 04, 2022 04:38 PM (M9XmQ)


Never except during Trump's inauguration and entire term or any other time they were throwing a fit because a Republican was winning.

Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2022 04:52 PM (6RgRK)

353 Surprised they did not say " red, white, or blue" tshirt.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:53 PM (Vr12I)

354 They need to get the Uvalde PD on it!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 04:53 PM (FVME7)

355 Both VT and VT2 are in the massive ADD that is my Twitter timeline.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at July 04, 2022 04:51 PM (GbPPJ)
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The generosity of your Highness is boundless.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 04, 2022 04:53 PM (5pTK/)

356 277, 339

+1 and on point for Independence Day

Posted by: Glad the founders aren't reading this thread at July 04, 2022 04:53 PM (Tc2CN)

357 Actually, conservatives value liberty/freedom over security/safety, whereas liberals value power. Raw, utter, political power.

If you want a picture of the liberal future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 04, 2022 04:44 PM (I2/tG)

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Yes, when Safire made that comment it was the early 80's. Obviously, the "liberals" have been overthrown by the Commies, and sadly continue to vote for them because they've been brainwashed to think that conservatives are the great -- and only -- threat, which will get them put up against the wall as useful idiots and shot before us.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 04:53 PM (QbCrG)

358 And right on cue Gov. blimpo says we need more gun control

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:53 PM (bs+z0)

359 The footage audio sounds like two 30 round mags were used.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 04, 2022 04:54 PM (4ZE6o)

360 Remember how it turned out with the gays. Safe legal and rare became post-birth abortions.

I do. And I understand human nature. The excesses of Leftism are on display, today, because they're in charge.

They won't always be in charge. And new excesses will then become the new order of the day.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 04:54 PM (X3zUe)

361 The generosity of your Highness is boundless.

And ample.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 04, 2022 04:54 PM (ufFY8)

362 Report I read said the shooter was on a rooftop.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 04, 2022 04:55 PM (a3Q+t)

363 Leftists go berserk with firearms and everyone has to give up theirs.
Sure

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 04:55 PM (2JoB8)

364 Between bbq sauce and beers, I finally was able to look over the complete post. AtC you are a gem.
I try to convince the libs I know that the law was poorly written but they just won't hear it.
It's amusing. And sad.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2022 04:55 PM (anj39)

365 Or a small long black haired Woman
Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:50 PM (bs+z0)

downtown, working for the FBI

Posted by: The Hollies at July 04, 2022 04:55 PM (4I/2K)

366 362 Report I read said the shooter was on a rooftop.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 04, 2022 04:55 PM (a3Q+t)

So,Korean.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 04:55 PM (Vr12I)

367 Watch IL now out-do NY outlawing scary-looking rifles, and to really do it right, make for no grandfathering.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at July 04, 2022 04:55 PM (4ZE6o)

368 The 2020 election was stolen, and a majority of Americans agree with me.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 04, 2022 04:56 PM (BYSRI)

369 I'm under crazy stupid retarded financial stress.
I'm too old for this.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 04:56 PM (VdGjU)

370 Conservatives could boycott Hyatt properties. Pritzker owns the company. But we don't. Because we are better than that ir something.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:57 PM (Omzsi)

371 It is Illinois-they lurv big gubmint.
___

Maybe in Chicago.

Down state, not so much.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 04, 2022 04:57 PM (yFmzU)

372 348 Where do I find the victory bewbs?
Posted by: Theodore at July 04, 2022 04:45 PM (GJnvT)

Both VT and VT2 are in the massive ADD that is my Twitter timeline.

Posted by: alexthechick
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What the hell is that? Where is it?

Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence' Ideal at July 04, 2022 04:57 PM (wpPM0)

373 Mitt calls Biden a "genuinely good man " while ripping MAGA

and Mitch says nothing

once again, there is nothing Mitch has ever done that any other GOP senator couldn't have done and there is plenty of shit that Mitch does that real con would never do

fuck Mitch

Posted by: REDACTED at July 04, 2022 04:57 PM (us2H3)

374 The footage audio sounds like two 30 round mags were used.
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Yes.

And the URL I cut & pasted in #200 seems to be working okay now.

https://twitter.com/SiIentRunning/status/
1544040782813954051

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 04, 2022 04:57 PM (yikp0)

375 Is t everything gun related already banned in IL? How much more could they do?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:57 PM (Omzsi)

376 Wherever it lands in the middle, I'll leave for other folks to figure out.
Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 04:46 PM (X3zUe)


When that fertilized egg splits for the first time. There is unique DNA. Not the mother. Not the father. A unique person.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2022 04:58 PM (anj39)

377 ADD. advert, addition,

Posted by: Braenyard - Celebrating Independence' Ideal at July 04, 2022 04:58 PM (wpPM0)

378 I do. And I understand human nature. The excesses of Leftism are on display, today, because they're in charge.

They won't always be in charge. And new excesses will then become the new order of the day.
Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 04:54 PM (X3zUe)

Whatever the excesses of the Tsar and the Kaiser it was better than what came after. The US was a pretty good place to live when abortion was illegal and gays were in the closet.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 04, 2022 04:58 PM (b2nrj)

379 Mitt calls Biden a "genuinely good man " while ripping MAGA

In what universe?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 04:58 PM (VdGjU)

380 375 Is t everything gun related already banned in IL? How much more could they do?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 04:57 PM (Omzsi)

Make sure law biding citizens are relieved of their guns

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 04:59 PM (bs+z0)

381 Bill Whittle warned us all about the civil war the Left was waging against us back in 2009.

Sadly, even now after the Left has destroyed the economy with the Plandemic, destroyed the nation's healthcare industry with the Plandemic, destroyed a generation of children with the Plandemic policies, destroyed the nation's energy industry with "climate change" policies, rigged and stole a Presidential election and classified anyone who dares question the legitimacy of the election results as a "threat" and "insurrectionist", threw protesters in prison... even after all that, after antifa, after BLM, after "Jane's Revenge", after memory-holing every terrorist attack against conservatives... people still refuse to believe we're in a civil war.

"We are in a Political Fight to the Death with People Who Will Stop at Nothing"

https://bit.ly/2ZA3LBo

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 04, 2022 04:59 PM (Do5/p)

382 Only the Left is the only one who has been fighting it. Long march through the institutions -- media, schools, universities, Hollywood, FBI, CIA, CDC, FDA.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 04, 2022 04:48 PM (Do5/p)


There have been some on the right fighting all these years, despite repeatedly being told to sit down and shut up.

One example is J. C. Dobson and his ministry Focus on the Family. They were doing everything they could to equip and strengthen families against the evil onslaught and educating voters about what was going on behind the scenes and encouraging action. But they were icky Christians, so it doesn't count.

Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2022 04:59 PM (6RgRK)

383 It's this way because PROGRESSIVISM IS A RELIGION.
It's received wisdom, not critical thinking. You're getting to the heart of their religion and human beings do not like that.

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2022 05:00 PM (IEo5i)

384 Lots of coin in Highland Park. Michael Jordan had a 32,000 sq. ft. shack there. You can bet there's EXTRA effort finding him. I hope they catch the kid before he does himself.

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2022 05:00 PM (+ya+t)

385 Actually, conservatives value liberty/freedom over security/safety, whereas liberals value power.

Two things I hate the most, in the written language. A whole bunch of words before a "but" - because everything before that word was self serving bullshit.

And leading a sentence with "actually". Because other than math or the physical sciences that can be supported to the Nth degree via math, nothing is objective. It's all subjective to varying degrees. "Actually" just means "my definition is the one true definition".

So for your "actually" - wind back your definition of liberty / freedom to Conservatives support of the Patriot Act post 9/11.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 05:00 PM (X3zUe)

386 Dry up ammunition is a tactic under consideration I believe.

Posted by: kraken at July 04, 2022 05:00 PM (Vr12I)

387 the left behaves as it does because they know Kevin and Mitch will never retaliate

NEVER !!!!

Posted by: REDACTED at July 04, 2022 05:00 PM (us2H3)

388 CNN says " high powered " rifle left at crime scene, but guessing not .308 or 30-06 but carbine 5.56mm

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 05:01 PM (2JoB8)

389 I also question the legitimacy of every Republican President since 1988, save for Trump.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 04, 2022 05:01 PM (LVPjk)

390 WORSHIP AND DESPAIR, HORDE!
Posted by: alexthechick


Will you settle for a golf-clap. Gotta save my cheering voice for tonight's IndyKaboom.

Posted by: DaveA at July 04, 2022 05:01 PM (FhXTo)

391 WORSHIP AND DESPAIR, HORDE!
__

Pass.

I prefer to worship and hope.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 04, 2022 05:02 PM (yFmzU)

392 We went out to dinner with an old friend and his progressive wife the other night. We avoided politics and had a nice dinner. We know each other and arguing is pointless.

Posted by: Javems at July 04, 2022 05:02 PM (AmoqO)

393 Barky did put lead production into the toilet. No tire weights are lead anymore.

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 05:02 PM (2JoB8)

394 389 I also question the legitimacy of every Republican President since 1988, save for Trump.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 04, 2022 05:01 PM (LVPjk


You have a point, BC.

Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2022 05:02 PM (6RgRK)

395 Where do I find the victory bewbs?
Posted by: Theodore

Any style of bewbs are almost always in the usual place.

It's one of the few things a Moron can count on.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 05:02 PM (Msys3)

396 388 CNN says " high powered " rifle left at crime scene, but guessing not .308 or 30-06 but carbine 5.56mm
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 05:01 PM (2JoB


Well it is CNN. A .22 is high powered according to them. There are only two types of guns in the eyes of leftists. Glocks and assault weapons.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 05:03 PM (Omzsi)

397 The problem with abortion is that very, very few of those involved in it treat it as a legislative, policy, or rights thing. Instead, they treat it as a political-rhetoric thing to get the base worked up and voting/donating to the organization. It's two groups of religious nuts shouting slogans at each other. Normally you've got that happening on the edges to position the Overton window, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but you also have the proverbial cooler heads that try to get something done. You just don't have that with abortion, it's all rhetoric all the time.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 05:04 PM (UewuT)

398 *cough*

Corruption
Degradation
Manipulation
Falsification
Adulteration...

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 03:56 PM (/NCI4)
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I stand corrected, and suspect that list is endless ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 04, 2022 05:04 PM (QbCrG)

399 Well it is CNN. A .22 is high powered according to them. There are only two types of guns in the eyes of leftists. Glocks and assault weapons.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 05:03 PM (Omzsi)

And derringers with the thing that goes up.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 05:04 PM (4I/2K)

400 396 388 CNN says " high powered " rifle left at crime scene, but guessing not .308 or 30-06 but carbine 5.56mm
Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 05:01 PM (2JoB

Was the MAGA hat there too ?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 05:05 PM (bs+z0)

401 "Wherever it lands in the middle, I'll leave for other folks to figure out."

The issue should always have been framed as "when does infanticide begin?" , which is not a federal question.

It went wrong when it was framed as an extension of the right to privacy with a dollop of doctor/patient.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2022 05:06 PM (i0slg)

402 When that fertilized egg splits for the first time. There is unique DNA. Not the mother. Not the father. A unique person.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 04, 2022 04:58 PM (anj39)


As I said. The Left is the problem today. Because they're in charge, and their excesses are on full display.

When the Right is in charge, it'll just be a new list of excesses. That's human nature. Both sides assume their nature is just "better". Well then, why would either stop ?

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 05:06 PM (X3zUe)

403 Well it is CNN. A .22 is high powered according to them.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 04, 2022 05:03 PM

Are they wrong? Don't you know a 9mm can blow a person's lung out of their body?

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 05:06 PM (ftFVW)

404 Not getting a good feeling on them apprehending the shooter

Posted by: Skip at July 04, 2022 05:06 PM (2JoB8)

405 Last night on our local news, Liz Cheney was quoted saying that Trump may be arrested because he is guilty of saying the election was fraudulent. So it is evidently against the law to question the legitimacy of the election.

Posted by: Chillin the most at July 04, 2022 05:06 PM (ZAnF6)

406 Was the MAGA hat there too ?
Posted by: It's me donna at July 04, 2022 05:05 PM (bs+z0)

and a third glove with Trump's DNA on it

only way to be for sure

Posted by: Mark Fuhrman at July 04, 2022 05:07 PM (us2H3)

407 My guess is that Pritzker will go for outright confiscation.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2022 05:07 PM (u73oe)

408
There have been some on the right fighting all these years, despite repeatedly being told to sit down and shut up.

One example is J. C. Dobson and his ministry Focus on the Family. They were doing everything they could to equip and strengthen families against the evil onslaught and educating voters about what was going on behind the scenes and encouraging action. But they were icky Christians, so it doesn't count.
Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2022 04:59 PM (6RgRK)

What's even more under-the-radar is that many of the guests on Art Bell's Late Night - Coast to Coast shows were predicting this a long long time ago.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 04, 2022 05:08 PM (Qhnrt)

409 407 My guess is that Pritzker will go for outright confiscation.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2022 05:07 PM (u73oe)

if he could figure out a way to eat the guns, I would agree

Posted by: REDACTED at July 04, 2022 05:09 PM (us2H3)

410 My guess is that Pritzker will go for outright confiscation.

Fantastic. Start in the livelier parts of Chicago. Have fun.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 05:09 PM (X3zUe)

411 Well, well, things are getting sporty in my AO. Teargas used last night, some fires set smashed windows, during a 'mostly peaceful' gathering downtown.

I guess cancelling the rib fest and closing the court on Fri to give room for a mostly peaceful gathering.

Curfew tonight, 9 PM to 6 AM. Fireworks cancelled.

Not too concerned, but will be REDCON 1 at sundown.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at July 04, 2022 05:09 PM (8C7+r)

412 FTA on the parade shooting:
"near Waukesha, Wis., where someone drove a sport-utility vehicle into a Christmas parade crowd last November"

Yeah, someone. Like someone did something.

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2022 05:09 PM (IEo5i)

413 408 What's even more under-the-radar is that many of the guests on Art Bell's Late Night - Coast to Coast shows were predicting this a long long time ago.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 04, 2022 05:08 PM (Qhnrt)


Art Bell is another of those guys who was kind of out there, but the world caught up. Though in his case it was less about being nutty himself and more about providing an open forum. I probably would have enjoyed his program if age and circumstance were just slightly different.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 05:09 PM (UewuT)

414 Only another pervert could say Biden is a genuinely good man.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 05:09 PM (VdGjU)

415 >>When the Right is in charge, it'll just be a new list of excesses. That's human nature. Both sides assume their nature is just "better". Well then, why would either stop ?

The Right is in charge of the Supreme Court. The Supreme Court just affirmed the 2nd Amendment and returned the power of the abortion decision to the people's representatives in the 50 states.

Yea, that's a lot better. Constitutional even.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 05:10 PM (ZLI7S)

416 When the Right is in charge, it'll just be a new list of excesses. That's human nature. Both sides assume their nature is just "better". Well then, why would either stop ?
Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 05:06 PM (X3zUe)

You seem to fail to recognize that the current left is abnormally bad with your "both sides" rhetoric. If the Left were merely an irritant, merely bad at economics, merely discriminating against us we would not be entertaining open conflict. If the Left is ultimately successful the majority of the US population would perish. Few regimes much criticized by historians are as bad.

There's a world of difference between unfair and liable to kill millions.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 04, 2022 05:11 PM (b2nrj)

417 The State Legislatures pack a lot of political punch. The GOP controls 62, the degenerates control 36. Growing up in the 80s, that would have been unimaginable. The WuFlu certainly undermined state legislative power.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at July 04, 2022 03:52 PM

Yeah, but how many of those 62 are GOPe and how many are actually conservative GOP.

If I remember correctly, there has been a GOP-majority Legislature in Michigan the past 2 years and they have done fuckall to stop Wretched, Nessel and Benson's reign of terror here, especially with regards to their COVID policy tyranny and the election steal.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 04, 2022 05:11 PM (Do5/p)

418 Scheider Hoffman and Shaw just headed out on the boat

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 04, 2022 05:12 PM (MGB5H)

419 Mitt's bread is buttered by the demons. Everything out of his mealy mouth is scripted bullshit.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 05:12 PM (dscaa)

420 And derringers with the thing that goes up.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 05:04 PM (4I/2K)

Hey now, my derringer does have a thing that goes up.

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2022 05:12 PM (IEo5i)

421 Rasmussen Reports is taking a break for the long July 4 holiday weekend. The Daily Presidential Tracking Poll will not be updated again until Wednesday morning, July 6.

picking a number btwn 40 and 44 out of a hat must be more exhausting than previously thought

Posted by: REDACTED at July 04, 2022 05:13 PM (us2H3)

422 The "cooler heads" have been spatacularly effective at ratcheting everything into the left's hands over the course of my lifetime.

Posted by: banana Dream at July 04, 2022 05:13 PM (0fVbu)

423 Eromoro, that was also true for our people pre martin Luther. In middle east we tried to put the Constitution before the reformation. Hijinks ensued.

We now understand, Some battles you just cant fight for others. Issue is waiting for them to do it themselves while their chaos spills over to us is also not sustainable.

Step one is birth control in exchange for welfare in places with unstable populations. Specifically central/south America, middle east, and Africa.

Posted by: Shiggz at July 04, 2022 05:13 PM (0SrVS)

424 There have been some on the right fighting all these years, despite repeatedly being told to sit down and shut up.

One example is J. C. Dobson and his ministry Focus on the Family. They were doing everything they could to equip and strengthen families against the evil onslaught and educating voters about what was going on behind the scenes and encouraging action. But they were icky Christians, so it doesn't count.


Posted by: Emmie at July 04, 2022 04:59 PM

Yep, I remember very clearly the 2004-2012 years, when social conservatives were told to shut up, that we can't fight the culture war, because that's too icky for the "moderates". Have to focus on the economy and focus on "electability" of candidates. Brilliant strategy...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 04, 2022 05:14 PM (Do5/p)

425 414 Only another pervert could say Biden is a genuinely good man.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 05:09 PM (VdGjU)

you just broke the code

Posted by: REDACTED at July 04, 2022 05:14 PM (us2H3)

426 Yea, that's a lot better. Constitutional even.

It is, Jack. And the problem of the excesses of the Right will not crop up until after I'm dead - for variations of a healthy, extremely active, and stubborn fifty year old man.

But, if we've seen anything - it's that no ideology can survive it's own success. They have to push, and push, until everyone just gets sick of them.

No ideology self limits. There always has to be the next thing. Like abortion at conception. Or beer on Sunday. Optional prayer in school today turns into mandatory tomorrow. It's always something.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 05:14 PM (X3zUe)

427 I would seethe in envy at all the clicks and attention The Empress gets but I have only myself to blame because I'm so fixated on boobs on my twitter account

Posted by: kbdabear at July 04, 2022 05:15 PM (qAR6u)

428 Yep, I remember very clearly the 2004-2012 years, when social conservatives were told to shut up, that we can't fight the culture war, because that's too icky for the "moderates". Have to focus on the economy and focus on "electability" of candidates. Brilliant strategy...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 04, 2022 05:14 PM (Do5/p)

Some around here may prefer to keep that tidbit under wraps or at least in hushed tones.

Posted by: ... at July 04, 2022 05:16 PM (dscaa)

429 >>> Only another pervert could say Biden is a genuinely good man.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 05:09 PM (VdGjU)

you just broke the code
Posted by: REDACTED at July 04, 2022 05:14 PM (us2H3)


Deviated Preverts!

Posted by: banana Dream at July 04, 2022 05:16 PM (0fVbu)

430 425 rofl. Nood

Posted by: CN at July 04, 2022 05:16 PM (ONvIw)

431 Let's face it, the Left fully embraces the Brezhnev Doctrine when it comes to domestic politics and laws

"Once it becomes communist, it stays communist and cannot go back"

Posted by: kbdabear at July 04, 2022 05:16 PM (qAR6u)

432 6 dead in Illinois

catchy

Posted by: Kneel Jung at July 04, 2022 05:16 PM (us2H3)

433 Only another pervert could say Biden is a genuinely good man.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at July 04, 2022 05:09 PM (VdGjU)

you just broke the code
Posted by: REDACTED at July 04, 2022 05:14 PM (us2H3)


Yep. Nobody works that hard to project a wholesome image, unless they've got something to hide.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 05:17 PM (X3zUe)

434 To be fair, the prominent 'religion' in the middle east does not allow freedom, much less civilization. It was silly of us to think so.

Posted by: Eromero at July 04, 2022 04:44 PM

Yep, we lost that initiative in the Middle East as soon as Bush 43 stated that Islam was a religion of peace, cozied up to C.A.I.R. in the US and then agreed to keep Islam within the Afghanistan and Iraqi constitutions.

I still believe in the message from this essay that we should have done in Afghanistan and Iraq what we did in Germany and Japan after WWII: banned Islamism from government as we banned NAZIism and Shintoism.

"No Substitute for Victory": The Defeat of Islamic Totalitarianism - 11/20/06

https://bit.ly/2JRxuBd

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 04, 2022 05:21 PM (Do5/p)

435 >>No ideology self limits. There always has to be the next thing. Like abortion at conception. Or beer on Sunday. Optional prayer in school today turns into mandatory tomorrow. It's always something.

And yet, the Supreme Court just sent power back to the people. Funny, that.

This entire country was built on an "ideology" of placing power in the hands of the people. It remains the most bold experiment in self rule in the history of the planet.

Yes, political parties have warped the experiment and greedy, selfish assholes on both sides of the aisle have derailed the promise. But there are still good people, obviously, and it is our job as the actual rulers of this country to get rid of them and put people in office who will safeguard our God given rights and freedoms.

Trump derailed the uniparty centralization of power and they hate him and us because of it. Not because he was wrong but because he was right. We will always have to fight these assholes, comes with the territory. But just claiming they will always win is cowardly.

Fuck them. Happy 4th, Scogg. Try to enjoy it.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 05:22 PM (ZLI7S)

436 "Where do I find the victory bewbs? "


Lefty, and Scamp?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2022 05:25 PM (1n+EO)

437 National Divorce:

We get the house, the car, the kids-- everything. They get a shitty apartment in Mexico.

South or Death, their choice.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at July 04, 2022 05:26 PM (pP7rZ)

438 55 It's certainly worth following, but I think a reduction in the number of people who thought it was a good time to have a child is at least as likely an explanation.
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Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 04:26 PM (/NCI4)
I had the same thought. Further study is necessary.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at July 04, 2022 04:28 PM (nByzo)

On these very pages there was a link to (US Army doctor?) who documented 2-3X increases in miscarriages if Jabbed after 20 weeks.

Let us not forget the big increase of healthy, young, athletic males dropping dead from stroke and clots, ALL OF WHOM WERE JABBED AT LEAST TWICE.

There is now documented proof that the MrNA shot contents migrate throughout the body, a significant portion of which make their way to the testicles and ovaries, and these products of anal sex thinks we need to jab 6 month old babies with this toxic shit that does not protect from the virus?!?

The common themes are all the injured were vaxxed, those in "the club" are making big bank. The population is being decimated. The left is in full-throated support; and their is tremendous loss of innocent life. Sounds positively devilish.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at July 04, 2022 05:27 PM (hrRsI)

439 Really OT and weird- there is a possibility that my congresscritter reads this blog and wants to come to the MoMe. I would say it was fake but it is his email address.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2022 05:27 PM (fWtdw)

440 I don't think he professes any faith. However he is firmly pro-life and .he thinks population explosion is a myth.
Posted by: kallisto at July 04, 2022 03:55 PM (dCxaZ)
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The world's population is now shrinking, We won't hit 8 billion, let alone 10. China, Russia, Japan, SOuth Korea, Germany, Italy, a fair number of Eastern Europe are in population freefall.

Musk notes correctly that the world is shrinking and that it is a bad thing. The left should agree, because the modern welfare state, upon which their full faith and dreams exist, needs ever larger populations to be successful. That scheme is now over. If anyone argues against this, suggest they do some investigative work that does not use any UN based sources. We are getting smaller, and we are moving into a world of less. The left is woefully ill-equipped to govern in this environment. Most of those political parties will disappear in the next 50 years. The next battle will be national populist parties vs our GOPe/NT contingent.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 04, 2022 05:30 PM (xWZcb)

441 "I would say it was fake but it is his email address."

Send a reply, but look up and manually type in his email address for the To: line.


See what happens.
Could be fun!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 04, 2022 05:30 PM (1n+EO)

442 Dissolution is actually the only answer that is possible to survive. The war between the states started the long march away from federalism toward central control - exactly opposite from what the Founders (most of them) intended. A multiple state solution of the parts without a war would make it less likely for foreign interference and ultimate control by that influencer.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 04, 2022 04:12 PM (oWBc3)
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That's not exactly how it went down.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 04, 2022 05:31 PM (xWZcb)

443 And yet, the Supreme Court just sent power back to the people. Funny, that. This entire country was built on an "ideology" of placing power in the hands of the people. It remains the most bold experiment in self rule in the history of the planet.

Read more, Jack.

It was built on notions of self rule. Mostly spurred on by the locals not really liking the English running around impressing men, horses, and wagons to fight the French and Indians. Yet, in something that should tell us something about human nature, the guy that was knee deep in the impressing eventually got on Mt. Rushmore. Somewhere along the way, he made sure folks paid their tax on barter whiskey.

I can go on and on.

You are happy today, Jack, because the Supreme Court pleased you with a sweeping decision. Sometime soon, you'll tell us why the next not so pleasing decision is simply not based in law. But it'll be a decision that stands, with power behind it, all the same. Then you'll tell us how relief is inevitable.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 05:32 PM (X3zUe)

444 Really OT and weird- there is a possibility that my congresscritter reads this blog and wants to come to the MoMe. I would say it was fake but it is his email address.

If he's coming for the same reason the rest of us are -- to enjoy time with like-minded people -- that might be good. If he thinks it's another political event, f*ck him.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 04, 2022 05:43 PM (4x6Ix)

445 In other "news"
Zelensky pleads for weapons as Putin takes ENTIRE Luhansk region
https://mol.im/a/10979643

Havn't we sent him enough of them? Are they in turn selling them?

Posted by: Ciampino - nice graft if you can get in at July 04, 2022 05:43 PM (qfLjt)

446 Oddbob, that is my feeling exactly. I know someone that knows him so I'll find out.

Posted by: Ben Had at July 04, 2022 05:51 PM (fWtdw)

447 GHWB's election was thought illegitimate too due to Lee Atwater's Willie Horton "dirty trick". Even Reagan in '80 was due to the "October Surprise". Every time the Dems lose it's because they were robbed.

Posted by: a_reader at July 04, 2022 06:03 PM (qfuZ/)

448 The whole vote general count thing is BS. More people vote against CLINTON than for him twice. The first time it was 43% of the vote. So, Dems, STFU.

Posted by: SmileyGG at July 04, 2022 06:07 PM (77cT/)

449 Like a tapeworm in your colon. Now how do you get rid of a 4 foot long blood sucking worm in your gut?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 04, 2022 03:59 PM (R/m4+)
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Normally we poison it.

Posted by: Ciampino - Mebendazole - the poison pill for gut parasites (democrats) at July 04, 2022 06:12 PM (qfLjt)

450 Mitt calls Biden a "genuinely good man " while ripping MAGA

and Mitch says nothing

once again, there is nothing Mitch has ever done that any other GOP senator couldn't have done and there is plenty of shit that Mitch does that real con would never do

fuck Mitch
Posted by: REDACTED at July 04, 2022 04:57 PM (us2H3)

X 1000

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at July 04, 2022 06:15 PM (14t2+)

451 179 I supported Cthulhu in each of the last 10 presidential elections. I regret nothing.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 04:13 PM (/NCI4)
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Which actual tentacle did you vote for?

Posted by: Ciampino - asked the squid at July 04, 2022 06:26 PM (qfLjt)

452 I proudly voted for RR in 1980 - the first presidential election I could vote in. Missed NOT voting for Jimmy C by 3 weeks too young! (Yes it still hurts)

Parents told me older sister voted for Jimmah 'cause he 'had a nice smile'. Her intelligence went down from there unfortunately!

Happy 4th of July fellow morons!

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at July 04, 2022 06:32 PM (7SwmH)

453 ead more, Jack.

It was built on notions of self rule. Mostly spurred on by the locals not really liking the English running around impressing men, horses, and wagons to fight the French and Indians. Yet, in something that should tell us something about human nature, the guy that was knee deep in the impressing eventually got on Mt. Rushmore. Somewhere along the way, he made sure folks paid their tax on barter whiskey.

I can go on and on.

You are happy today, Jack, because the Supreme Court pleased you with a sweeping decision. Sometime soon, you'll tell us why the next not so pleasing decision is simply not based in law. But it'll be a decision that stands, with power behind it, all the same. Then you'll tell us how relief is inevitable.
Posted by: Once More With Feeling at July 04, 2022 05:32 PM (X3zUe)
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Self rule is rule making at the lowest part of gov possible. That is the notion JackStraw celebrates. And he's right.

If you prefer anarchy, you are welcome to it. There have been examples if you'd care to check it out. And it isn't pleasant. But you go ahead and dream about something that never was.

Posted by: Black JEM at July 04, 2022 06:36 PM (xWZcb)

454 The great Rush Limbaugh pointed this out on his show nearly two years ago.

Posted by: Tracy at July 04, 2022 06:54 PM (MSGLe)

455 People don't like to question priors because doing so means admitting you did not interpret the world correctly and the ego will defend against that.
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Michael Shellenberger to the white courtesy phone, please! Naomi Wolff, Bill Maher, Russell Brand, Elon Musk you too!

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