How the Voters Really Feel about Abortion <br> Dave in Fla [Guest Monkey]

How the Voters Really Feel about Abortion
Dave in Fla [Guest Monkey]

With CBD on vacation, I was asked to fill in for him this week. It happens that I have some new polling information to share with you, so it was a timely request. My favorite pollster, Rich Baris, conducted a new national poll during May. I'm going to share some insights from it on Thursday, but with the Dobbs vs. Jackson Women's Health Organization decision being released this week, I thought it would be useful to understand what the voters actually think on the abortion issue.

First a word about the poll itself. It is a likely voter poll of over 2500. In polling terms, that is double the size needed for valid results in a national poll. Also, I have mentioned in the past, Baris uses an over sampling technique tied to consumer data to ensure he gets a representative sample from all key demographics. He has been extremely accurate in the past (most accurate in the VA Governor's race for example), so I have high confidence that he is accurately measuring voter sentiment. [I am not including a link to the crosstabs of the poll, since those are provided to his Locals community only]

Consider the following results:

Abortion Polling.JPG

When you consider the top line question, "are you pro-choice or pro-life?", the country will self-identify as barely pro-choice. This is where the Democrats stop the discussion, since they want to make the political claim that the voters are pro-choice, so don't change the current status quo. While a solid super-majority of Republicans are pro-life (much to the chagrin of the GOPe), the over all numbers are driven by an equal super-majority of Democrats and a plurality of Independents who call themselves pro-choice.

Where things get very interesting is when you start looking at the approval/disapproval of specific practices.

Abortion after a heartbeat has been detected has almost majority opposition with the voters, with twice as many independents opposing as approving it.

Abortion after a baby can feel pain is strongly opposed by 60.6% of the voters. Even Democrats oppose the practice by a slight plurality.

Where abortion really loses support is in the 3rd trimester. 70.7% of the voters oppose this practice. Even a solid majority of DEMOCRATS (55.2%) oppose abortion up to the point of birth.

The final data point I want to highlight is how important Roe v Wade is as an election issue. Will it motivate the Democrat base to vote?

No, it will not.

While Democrats are twice as likely to consider abortion to be their primary issue for voting in November, still only 13.2% of Democrats identify it as their most important issue. That small percentage represents slight over 4% of the entire voting population. They might be vocal with their protests and terrorism, and the administration might want to pretend they are a mighty voting bloc, but they are a tiny sliver of the electorate.

If Roe v Wade is repealed this week, it will have no impact on the November elections. And as the public finally realizes what the repeal actually means, they will support the laws that are in place throughout many of the states.

The November elections are going to hinge on the economy, as you will see on Thursday.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:00 AM

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1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

2 Morning!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2022 11:00 AM (E3u8U)

3 Who told CBD vacations were allowed?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

4 Is that a toothpick in the monkey's mouth?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:01 AM (PiwSw)

5 We already know dems have a blood-lust for babies' blood...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:01 AM (ynpvh)

6 It's a little early for math on the blog...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at June 21, 2022 11:01 AM (BgMrQ)

7 1 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:00 AM (Zz0t1)

Like a broken clock! Congrats.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:01 AM (ynpvh)

8 The preference shift on abortion and guns has been heartening.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at June 21, 2022 11:01 AM (xcxpd)

9 Top ten.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 21, 2022 11:02 AM (bVYXr)

10 I've always thought it is a toothpick.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 21, 2022 11:02 AM (5p7BC)

11 That after the doctor can feel pain number for Democrats is interesting.

Completely split with, assuming, the rest having no real opinion.

Sounds like a great wedge issue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:02 AM (LvTSG)

12 CBD's on vacation?

Maple Syrup Maple Syrup Maple Syrup Shake Shake Shake!

*cackles hysterically*

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:02 AM (PiwSw)

13 8 The preference shift on abortion and guns has been heartening.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at June 21, 2022 11:01 AM (xcxpd)

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A preference shift on government meddling in the economy would be cool, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:02 AM (LvTSG)

14
Like a broken clock! Congrats.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:01 AM (ynpvh)

Tank yuh. Tank yuh vurry much......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:02 AM (Zz0t1)

15 Morning.

I initially read the title as, "How The Voters Really Feel About Dave In FL."

Well! Someone's becoming popular!

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2022 11:03 AM (JIIlb)

16 The Economy: WE ARE ALREADY IN A RECESSION.
The current regime may hem and haw, holding on to their fantasy number of 0.0% growth for the quarter, but once revised, it WILL revise in the negative direction.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:03 AM (ynpvh)

17 Stopping illegal immigration is popular among dem voters.

There are issues where democracy completely gives way to something else.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2022 11:03 AM (44ww/)

18 and congrats to Sponge

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at June 21, 2022 11:03 AM (xcxpd)

19 Commenting present

Posted by: Skip's phone at June 21, 2022 11:03 AM (yFN9y)

20 Thank you, Dave!

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 21, 2022 11:03 AM (1n+EO)

21 Thats the look the monkey gives you a few nano seconds before ripping your eyeballs out.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:03 AM (QSjkU)

22 Easy access to abortion is my most important issue.

Posted by: Moloch at June 21, 2022 11:03 AM (ESjRY)

23 And I read the content.

Posted by: Archer at June 21, 2022 11:04 AM (gmo/4)

24 The final data point I want to highlight is how important Roe v Wade is as an election issue. Will it motivate the Democrat base to vote?

No, it will not.

While Democrats are twice as likely to consider abortion to be their primary issue for voting in November, still only 13.2% of Democrats identify it as their most important issue.
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How big a factor is "ride along" or however you wish to describe it? Abortion isn't the biggest factor for them, but they're good Party Men and so will be more motivated to vote for the Party after any important defeat, even if the specific defeat is less important in the grand scheme of things?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:04 AM (WWh8n)

25 22 Easy access to abortion is my most important issue.
Posted by: Moloch at June 21, 2022 11:03 AM (ESjRY)

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"I'm sorry that I'm failing in our chief sacrament, Dear Lord..."
-Nancy Pelosi

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:04 AM (LvTSG)

26 Abortion was 'invented' to destroy the black race, especially in America.

It has been transitioned into birth control, removing an ultimate consequence for a specific action.

"On demand without apology" is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard of, bar none.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

27 The November elections are going to hinge on the economy, as you will see on Thursday.
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Which is too bad, since Biden is fully prepared for that and welcomes this election as a referendum on his economic performance!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:04 AM (WWh8n)

28 26 Abortion was 'invented' to destroy the black race, especially in America.

It has been transitioned into birth control, removing an ultimate consequence for a specific action.

"On demand without apology" is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard of, bar none.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

They're against the death penalty...unless it's applied to unborn children.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:05 AM (ynpvh)

29 Nice write up Dave. I had not heard of Baris polling until you mentioned here. Appreciate the insights.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2022 11:05 AM (anj39)

30 27 The November elections are going to hinge on the economy, as you will see on Thursday.
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Which is too bad, since Biden is fully prepared for that and welcomes this election as a referendum on his economic performance!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:04 AM (WWh8n)

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He'll message in an address and all of America will fall in line, ignoring the $5 milk and $6 gas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:05 AM (LvTSG)

31 and congrats to Sponge
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at June 21, 2022 11:03 AM (xcxpd)

Woot!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:05 AM (Zz0t1)

32 27 The November elections are going to hinge on the economy, as you will see on Thursday.
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Which is too bad, since Biden is fully prepared for that and welcomes this election as a referendum on his economic performance!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:04 AM (WWh8n)

Joey's driving the economy like he rides a bike!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:05 AM (ynpvh)

33 SCOTUS has 18 more cases to release
Will they do them all on Thursday, or stretch this out further?

Dobbs will probably be the last one.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2022 11:05 AM (ufFY8)

34 I filled up my F-150 this morning $142.

Posted by: Archer at June 21, 2022 11:06 AM (gmo/4)

35 If Roe v Wade is repealed this week, it will have no impact on the November elections. And as the public finally realizes what the repeal actually means, they will support the laws that are in place throughout many of the states.
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And ironically, a repeal right now (or back when it leaked in the first place) will ensure no federal movement until after the election. They probably don't have the votes to get a federal abortion law passed right now, what with their razor thin margins in the Senate and a couple of red state Dem senators who would probably like to keep their jobs, so they won't invite another high-profile defeat on the same topic during the campain.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:06 AM (WWh8n)

36 33 SCOTUS has 18 more cases to release
Will they do them all on Thursday, or stretch this out further?

Dobbs will probably be the last one.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2022 11:05 AM (ufFY

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They have until the end of the month. My guess:

6 on Thursday.
6 on Monday.
6 on Wednesday (including Bruen and Dobbs).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:06 AM (LvTSG)

37
They're against the death penalty...unless it's applied to unborn children.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:05 AM (ynpvh)

I think this is one of the more boggling aspects of the liberal mind.

"If you're fortunate enough to make it out of the womb and survive, we will allow you to do whatever it is you feel in the remainder of your life, which we will allow you to live in full."

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:06 AM (Zz0t1)

38
Dobbs vs. Jackson Women's Health Organization decision being released this week

Or will it be next week?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM (63Dwl)

39 I filled up my F-150 this morning $142.

Posted by: Archer at June 21, 2022 11:06 AM (gmo/4)

32 gallon tank, I take it?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

40 Polls are for strippers.

Posted by: Jamie Lee Curtis at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM (h5TKJ)

41 35 And ironically, a repeal right now (or back when it leaked in the first place) will ensure no federal movement until after the election. They probably don't have the votes to get a federal abortion law passed right now, what with their razor thin margins in the Senate and a couple of red state Dem senators who would probably like to keep their jobs, so they won't invite another high-profile defeat on the same topic during the campain.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:06 AM (WWh8n)

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Don't forget: Schumer tried a month ago. He intentionally made it as radical as possible so that not even Murkowski or Collins would vote for it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM (LvTSG)

42 Joey's driving the economy like he rides a bike!
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:05 AM (ynpvh)

That dive off the bike was something.

He wasn't going fast enough.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM (ufFY8)

43 33 SCOTUS has 18 more cases to release
Will they do them all on Thursday, or stretch this out further?

Dobbs will probably be the last one.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2022 11:05 AM (ufFY

Don't show the whole thing to 'em all at once...

Posted by: Milton Berle at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM (BgMrQ)

44 The November elections are going to hinge on the economy, as you will see on Thursday.

* counts on fingers *

Wait a minute, if you're here all week, what about Wednesday?

Does this teasing us, and then making us wait mean that the cruelty is now making its way down to the CoBs?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (a3Q+t)

45 Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Yep.

Posted by: Archer at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (gmo/4)

46 Joe - Those people are going to vote Democrat anyway, as I hope to show Thursday. Roe v Wade isn't going to change any votes.

The terrible economy and gasoline prices? Different story there.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (5p7BC)

47 Polls are for strippers.
Posted by: Jamie Lee Curtis at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM (h5TKJ)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (Zz0t1)

48 40 Polls are for strippers.

Posted by: Jamie Lee Curtis at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM (h5TKJ)

Well, polsters for the major MSM networks are mostly whores, so that works, right?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (ynpvh)

49 Yet the media will continue to push just how horrible this is!!!!

And ignore the anarchistic violence that we are about to witness from Jane's Blancmange.

Posted by: Hispanoman at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (w9Wax)

50 Don't forget: Schumer tried a month ago. He intentionally made it as radical as possible so that not even Murkowski or Collins would vote for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM (LvTSG)
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The Dems don't engage in failure theater very often, but they do know how it works.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (WWh8n)

51
If Roe v Wade is repealed this week, it will have no impact on the November elections.

Will "Jane's Revenge" riots impact the elections?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (63Dwl)

52 39 I filled up my F-150 this morning $142.

Posted by: Archer at June 21, 2022 11:06 AM (gmo/4)

32 gallon tank, I take it?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM (Zz0t1)

Shoulda gone EV...

***runs serpentine***

Posted by: Milton Berle at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (BgMrQ)

53 Pretty sure Joe will be in his regular spot on Wednesday

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (5p7BC)

54 50 Don't forget: Schumer tried a month ago. He intentionally made it as radical as possible so that not even Murkowski or Collins would vote for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM (LvTSG)
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The Dems don't engage in failure theater very often, but they do know how it works.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (WWh8n)

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I think they engage in it a lot. BBB was failure theater for months. I think this gun thing is failure theater.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:09 AM (LvTSG)

55 /off big dicked guy sock

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at June 21, 2022 11:09 AM (BgMrQ)

56 November is going to be LIT if Republicans take both houses!

...cause of Antifa and the FIB, mainly.

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:09 AM (krQz2)

57 The Economy: WE ARE ALREADY IN A RECESSION.

That's exactly what Putin wants you to believe!

Posted by: brak at June 21, 2022 11:09 AM (j5Tg0)

58
Yep.
Posted by: Archer at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (gmo/4)

My Ford diesel has the 26 gallon tank, yet costs me the same as you to fill.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:09 AM (Zz0t1)

59 I keep hearing there is gonna be a decision on Roe vs Wade. Where is is? Two weeks?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:09 AM (QSjkU)

60 Willowed: Why is 'Juneteenth' being celebrated in areas where the Emancipation Proclamation didn't apply?
Posted by: Dishonest Abe at June 21, 2022

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A salient point. Fun fact: New Orleans and the surrounding area were specifically *excluded* from the EP; it's right there in the text. That and other places under Union control at the time were excluded. In essence Lincoln declared slavery at an end in areas the Union did *not* control, while declaring it abolished in areas the Union *did* control.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:09 AM (txdEq)

61
"On demand without apology" is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard of, bar none.
___________

How quickly it morphed from "safe, legal, and rare" to this.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (MvHI3)

62 51
If Roe v Wade is repealed this week, it will have no impact on the November elections.

Will "Jane's Revenge" riots impact the elections?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (63Dwl)

They fit the definition of a terrorist group. Hey, Merrick! Gonna do something about them?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (ynpvh)

63 Uncivil Law does a speed reading of the decisions as they are dropped. I caught the last couple cases from today
Interesting.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (ufFY8)

64 Don't show the whole thing to 'em all at once...
Posted by: Milton Berle at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM

Don't show it at all can be good advice sometimes.

Posted by: George Constanza at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (a3Q+t)

65
Will "Jane's Revenge" riots impact the elections?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (63Dwl)

Show them the results of an abortion, personally.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (Zz0t1)

66 How quickly it morphed from "safe, legal, and rare" to this.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (MvHI3)
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One was a convenient lie. The other is the essential truth.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (WWh8n)

67 Wait a minute...If CBD is on vacation, then who *really* posted the Art Thread this morning?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (YIVH2)

68 November is going to be LIT if Republicans take both houses!

We can't get anything done unless we have the WH too! Joe is too strong. Send money.

- GOPe

Posted by: Archer at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (gmo/4)

69 Dobbs will be announced at the last possible moment.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (oTZbj)

70 They didn't ask about post-birth abortions, the next "final frontier" for the death cult?

/Rhetorical

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (S2UOa)

71 They fit the definition of a terrorist group. Hey, Merrick! Gonna do something about them?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM

Dude.

Posted by: Eric Holder at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (a3Q+t)

72 67 Wait a minute...If CBD is on vacation, then who *really* posted the Art Thread this morning?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (YIVH2)

We ain't talkin'.

Posted by: The Chickens at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (PiwSw)

73 61
"On demand without apology" is the most disgusting thing I've ever heard of, bar none.
___________

How quickly it morphed from "safe, legal, and rare" to this.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (MvHI3)

Never been truly safe...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (ynpvh)

74 The November elections are going to hinge on the economy, as you will see on Thursday.
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Which is too bad, since Biden is fully prepared for that and welcomes this election as a referendum on his economic performance!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:04 AM (WWh8n)

Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.

Posted by: BignJames at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (AwYPR)

75 Dobbs will be announced at the last possible moment.
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (oTZbj)
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Yeah, and about 30 minutes after the justices are wheels-up and firmly en route to an undisclosed location.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (WWh8n)

76 Whenever you hear Democrats reviling a "conspiracy theory" you can bet your ass there is a conspiracy.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (QSjkU)

77 Ever eat a pine tree? Some parts are edible.
Posted by: Zombie at June 21, 2022
*
Tea made from boiling the needles are high in vitmin C. Seeds of some species are tasty, Pinyon nuts.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022

***
Pinon nuts are even used in coffee in New Mexico and the stuff is exported here. Tastes like crap.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (txdEq)

78 64 Don't show the whole thing to 'em all at once...
Posted by: Milton Berle at June 21, 2022 11:07 AM

Don't show it at all can be good advice sometimes.
Posted by: George Constanza at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (a3Q+t)

You call that penis...

Nah mate, Milton there...now that's a penis

Posted by: Mick Dundee at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (BgMrQ)

79 Thats the look the monkey gives you a few nano seconds before ripping your eyeballs out.

I came here to chew straw and kick ass.

* takes piece of straw from mouth and flicks it to the ground *

Posted by: Dave's Baboon at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (nfrXX)

80 70 They didn't ask about post-birth abortions, the next "final frontier" for the death cult?

/Rhetorical
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (S2UOa)

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If and when Dobbs overturns Roe completely, blue state governments will react with proposed laws that make abortion legal until a week after birth.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (LvTSG)

81 67 Wait a minute...If CBD is on vacation, then who *really* posted the Art Thread this morning?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (YIVH2)

Someone with a foot fetish.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (ynpvh)

82 Off-topic:

This is just weird.

It looks like the reason Senile Joe fell off his bike is because he couldn't wait to creep on a little girl in the crowd.

https://instapundit.com/526792/

Your President, Ladies and Gentlemen.

Yucko!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (5NkmN)

83 Unfortunately I think that the pro abortion numbers are growing just as the number of people who believe in God decreases in our country.

DIVORCE

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (6jFs+)

84 Gas went down a whopping 5 cents in CT. now $4.99

Posted by: Ziba at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (4h9M3)

85 In CO there is a commercial blasting a guy named Ron Hanks who is running for the Senate. I know nothing about Hanks but for the commercials against him. Pro border wall, pro 2nd amendment, pro-life , etc. They end the ad saying "Ron Hanks is too conservative for Colorado'. I wonder how many people watch that ad and actually like his positions.

Posted by: Cheri at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (oiNtH)

86 Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.
Posted by: BignJames at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (AwYPR)
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Yeah, but a good chunk of that is going to a new roof this summer...Good thing I've been saving up, I guess.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (YIVH2)

87 Part of my "awakening" (regardless of how one feels about the issue. The issue, as they say, is never the issue) was a paper or debate at a university. Can't really remember the particulars.

Something something about Margaret Sanger. Well the World Wide Web was pretty new. So I researched ole Maggie. And quoted her verbatim, pointing out she was obviously a racist bitch extraordinaire.

I was told that what I really should do, is read a book about Maggie. The author would presumably tell me what she really meant. I protested, and argued that primary source documents - "straight from the horses mouth" ought to be the best method. This is why the Left wants people stupid and ignorant and unable to think for themselves. Information is to be used as a weapon. And only the "gatekeepers" are smart enough to determine what information you can be provided.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (F0yZs)

88
"On demand without apology"

And free of charge!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (63Dwl)

89 72 67 Wait a minute...If CBD is on vacation, then who *really* posted the Art Thread this morning?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (YIVH2)

We ain't talkin'.

Posted by: The Chickens at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (PiwSw)

We did. Eat Moar Chikin.

Posted by: Chick Fil-A Cows at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (ynpvh)

90 The terrible economy and gasoline prices? Different story there.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (5p7BC)
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Dave, is it your experience voters who will not vote for another party, and are disaffected by their party, generally just stay home and don't vote?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (5pTK/)

91 If and when Dobbs overturns Roe completely, blue state governments will react with proposed laws that make abortion legal until a week after birth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (LvTSG)

California and Maryland already have laws waiting to be passed which will "decriminalize" infanticide up to 28 days after birth.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (PiwSw)

92 I'm surprised the gun manufacturers haven't come out with a George Floyd Junetenth Pistol yet. Maybe a custom grip to make shooting sideways more accurate.

Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM (4vi12)

93 74 Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.
Posted by: BignJames at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (AwYPR)

Wut!?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM (ynpvh)

94 I think that the polling for anything has large support when described in an anodyne way, and then gets different when specific practices are questioned.

Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM (6TxNR)

95 I don’t believe that pill, no way over 60% are pro choice… no way

Posted by: Gonzotx at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM (t4poC)

96 Wait a minute...If CBD is on vacation, then who *really* posted the Art Thread this morning?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Big Chicken

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM (ac89p)

97 In essence Lincoln declared slavery at an end in areas the Union did *not* control, while declaring it abolished in areas the Union *did* control.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 202

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Oops. I meant to say: "Via the EP, Lincoln abolished slavery in areas the Union did *not* control, while leaving it untouched in areas the Union *did* control."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM (txdEq)

98 Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.
Posted by: BignJames at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (AwYPR)
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It is to laugh. There's a degree of truth to it, but if the situation is as rosy as Yellen implies, then why are revolving credit (that is, credit card) balances skyrocketing and topping out near credit limits? If people have so much liquid cash in the bank, why are they charging purchases and carrying the balance on a variable-rate instrument? Moreover, even if you have a decent cash position, what is your inventive to consume anything but long-life durable goods right now? I could see a pop in those sectors since the value of your money is collapsing so you might as well get while the getting's good - but that does nothing to improve regular consumption or investment. It's just pulled-forward demand to get ahead of the curve on things like refrigerators and laundry appliances.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM (WWh8n)

99 My error, I thought Thursday was the last day they will announce decisions. I guess the 27th is more likely.

Anyway, I wanted to get this analysis out before the announcement.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM (5p7BC)

100 Jane's Addiction is Revenge.

Jane says, "I'll kill Kavanaugh tomorrow,
I'll kill him tomorrow
I'll kill him tomorrow"

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:15 AM (krQz2)

101 California and Maryland already have laws waiting to be passed which will "decriminalize" infanticide up to 28 days after birth.
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Not approving but I do like states having their own flair.

Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:15 AM (4vi12)

102
CBD wanted to keep this quiet cuz...well, you know, but -

he's at a secret bartending retreat where he's learning how to shake his Manhattans.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2022 11:15 AM (5NkmN)

103 One was a convenient lie. The other is the essential truth.
___________

Well we always knew the "rare" part was a lie, because if the Dims really wanted abortion to be rare, they would not have made it free (for the women getting the abortions, obviously not for the taxpayers forced to fund abortion abattoirs like PP every year).

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at June 21, 2022 11:15 AM (MvHI3)

104 Overturning Roe would really inspire lesbians and super-ugly feminists.
Of course, they already show up to vote, and will never get pregnant, but abortion is a sacrament in their church, so stop messing with their religion.

Posted by: Wally at June 21, 2022 11:15 AM (1jvkj)

105 Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.
Posted by: BignJames

Um, just checked my bank accounts and 401K. That would be a no.

It's why I keep showing up for work.

Posted by: Cheri at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (oiNtH)

106 92 I'm surprised the gun manufacturers haven't come out with a George Floyd Junetenth Pistol yet. Maybe a custom grip to make shooting sideways more accurate.
Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM (4vi12)

Great idea! They could mount the sights on the side of the slide instead of the top.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (QSjkU)

107 'People haven’t had a chance to get to know her': MSNBC's Joy Reid asserts that Kamala Harris is not being treated fairly by the 'white, male' media

Posted by: SMOD at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (RHGPo)

108 Maybe a custom grip to make shooting sideways more accurate.
Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM

Putting the sights on the side of the slide is more efficacious.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (a3Q+t)

109 >>>with the Dobbs vs. Jackson Women's Health Organization decision being released this week

this fortnight (two weeks); this term; not necessarily this week

Posted by: m at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (VnUSN)

110 >> Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.

That old cunt has no idea what she is doing. None.

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (fwjwo)

111 101 California and Maryland already have laws waiting to be passed which will "decriminalize" infanticide up to 28 days after birth.
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Not approving but I do like states having their own flair.

Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:15 AM (4vi12)

There was some big university "ethicist" who said it was ethical to kill little ones up to the age of two, because they weren't developed enough to be fully human until then.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (ynpvh)

112 Wait a minute...If CBD is on vacation, then who *really* posted the Art Thread this morning?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2022
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Someone with a foot fetish.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022

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If so, you'd think he'd have picked a painting of a girl with better hind paws.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (txdEq)

113
Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.
Posted by: BignJames at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (AwYPR)
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Yellen evidently does not live in America, where prices have climbed so fast, savings which should see people through a couple of catastrophes are wiped out with just a minor setback.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (5pTK/)

114 Part of my "awakening" (regardless of how one feels about the issue. The issue, as they say, is never the issue) was a paper or debate at a university. Can't really remember the particulars. ...
Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (F0yZs)
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I vividly remember the thing that pushed me out of an indifferent pro-choice-by-default position and started the journey that led to my current position. It was an editorial in the New York Times.

https://archive.ph/86ild

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (WWh8n)

115 If the lawyers in this country had any real smarts, they would be pushing for fetuses having legal representation.

Posted by: SMOD at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (RHGPo)

116 Irony Written by God:

Is when a group calls itself "Jane's Revenge" in reference to Jane Roe of Roe v. Wade, when the woman who that moniker refers to ended up a pro-life advocate a decade down the line, much to the hatred of all the pro-abortion maniacs.

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (krQz2)

117 107 'People haven’t had a chance to get to know her': MSNBC's Joy Reid asserts that Kamala Harris is not being treated fairly by the 'white, male' media

Posted by: SMOD at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (RHGPo)

Yeah. Who's dick do I have to suck to get good press?

Posted by: Kumala at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (ynpvh)

118 Tara Palmeri
@tarapalmeri
DNC is slashing prices for a photo w/ Kamala Harris. Tickets for a photo with the VP at the Women's Leadership Forum started at $15,000, but it failed to sell enough tickets & is being postponed. VP's June fundraiser in Cali is charging $5,000 for a photo

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Bitch slapped by Adam Smith's invisible hand.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Spring Is In the Air! at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (FVME7)

119 There was some big university "ethicist" who said it was ethical to kill little ones up to the age of two, because they weren't developed enough to be fully human until then.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (ynpvh)

That was probably Peter Singer, at Princeton.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (PiwSw)

120 Dave, is it your experience voters who will not vote for another party, and are disaffected by their party, generally just stay home and don't vote?
Posted by: blake
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The poll I am working with is a likely voter poll. So anyone who is shown as shifting their opinion is not staying home.

Most of the shift is independent voters planning to vote Republican.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (5p7BC)

121 California and Maryland already have laws waiting to be passed which will "decriminalize" infanticide up to 28 days after birth.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (PiwSw)
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It'll be interesting to see how the demographics shake out in those locations after a couple of decades of these policies. Those who object will leave (if they can). Those who stay will see declining populations only propped up through unrestricted immigration. Of course, those immigrants may not agree with those policies and may agitate for change or leave those states as well.

It may get a little weird.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2022 11:18 AM (YIVH2)

122 111 Peter Singer

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2022 11:18 AM (8vG5C)

123
Jane's Addiction is Revenge.

Been Caught Aborting

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2022 11:18 AM (63Dwl)

124 Quick, someone say, "Sous Vide," to see if CBD is lurking.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2022 11:18 AM (oTZbj)

125 Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.

I would say that they must have some numbers that show we won't have negative growth this quarter to be making such statements confidently.

But there is no consequence for being wrong or even for outright lying about this. So I think they have no idea whether a recession is likely or not, but they do know it sounds better to say its not.

Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2022 11:18 AM (6TxNR)

126 112 Wait a minute...If CBD is on vacation, then who *really* posted the Art Thread this morning?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2022
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Someone with a foot fetish.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022
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If so, you'd think he'd have picked a painting of a girl with better hind paws.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (txdEq)

I didn't say what KIND of foot fetish, did I?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:18 AM (ynpvh)

127 I've seen these type of poll results play out in person

In law school during an inevitable abortion discussion one student, a very overweight gal with the short hair and problem glasses so you can guess her politics, chimed in with abortion should be legal until "the fetus was crowning." Fetus, of course. There was a couple mumbled comments and some open-mouthed stares, and everyone got kind of silent, even the professor, and we just sort of moved on.

Point being even though the audience was a very liberal group who I'm sure was overwhelmingly "pro-choice", if you go into the details of what that entails these days, support drops off.

Posted by: brak at June 21, 2022 11:18 AM (j5Tg0)

128 So if you can kill your baby up to 28 days after birth when do babies get their Social Security Number? Cash talks, bullshit walks.

Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:18 AM (4vi12)

129 @tarapalmeri
DNC is slashing prices for a photo w/ Kamala Harris. Tickets for a photo with the VP at the Women's Leadership Forum started at $15,000, but it failed to sell enough tickets & is being postponed. VP's June fundraiser in Cali is charging $5,000 for a photo ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Spring Is In the Air! at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (FVME7)
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Do I get the NFT for the picture, too? If I just get a *representation* of the picture, I think the price is too high now that alternatives exist. If I buy the actual picture, that's another story.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Harris Booster at June 21, 2022 11:19 AM (WWh8n)

130 "Fat-legged" womyn in the sidebar, big-footed peasant lass in the Art Thread, and now Mucho Math in the Morning Rant.

I'm overwhelmed-not up to this.

Posted by: Big Sissy at June 21, 2022 11:19 AM (PIlQh)

131 Is that a toothpick in the monkey's mouth?
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:01 AM (PiwSw)

Bone fragment from the last MF'er who took his picture.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at June 21, 2022 11:19 AM (zhLdt)

132 Thanks Dave. Baris and Barnes pointed out yesterday that what the enemedia points out as priorities of voters is straight up propaganda.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at June 21, 2022 11:19 AM (y7DUB)

133 124 Quick, someone say, "Sous Vide," to see if CBD is lurking.
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2022 11:18 AM (oTZbj)]

CBD had a comment in the ONT

Posted by: m at June 21, 2022 11:19 AM (VnUSN)

134 Quick, someone say, "Sous Vide," to see if CBD is lurking.
Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2022 11:18 AM (oTZbj)
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Soos Viday.

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:19 AM (krQz2)

135 In CO there is a commercial blasting a guy named Ron Hanks who is running for the Senate. I know nothing about Hanks but for the commercials against him. Pro border wall, pro 2nd amendment, pro-life , etc. They end the ad saying "Ron Hanks is too conservative for Colorado'. I wonder how many people watch that ad and actually like his positions.
Posted by: Cheri at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (oiNtH)

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Bet the ads are sponsored by Democrats?
The ads are to support a weaker candidate. You do not recognize him, do you?
He probably has some serious defects that will come out in the general election campaign too?

Posted by: rd at June 21, 2022 11:19 AM (Z32m1)

136 If so, you'd think he'd have picked a painting of a girl with better hind paws.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (txdEq)
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Unless he has an extreme, weird, Tarantino-style foot fetish...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:20 AM (WWh8n)

137 I can't stay but will leave a couple of thoughts. A) JJ's story about Planned Parenthood leaving Wisconsin was encouraging. 2) While I would like to see higher pro-life numbers, this data is also encouraging. iii) Overall, it appears that Evil proceeds. Against public outcry, and even, councilman pushback, drag queen story hour was allowed to continue here. IV) Keep the faith.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at June 21, 2022 11:20 AM (K0jo2)

138 DNC is slashing prices for a photo w/ Kamala Harris. Tickets for a photo with the VP at the Women's Leadership Forum started at $15,000, but it failed to sell enough tickets & is being postponed. VP's June fundraiser in Cali is charging $5,000 for a photo

Still, if it sells at that price, its a sign of sickness in our country.

Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2022 11:20 AM (6TxNR)

139 >>But there is no consequence for being wrong or even for outright lying about this

IF pressed, she would point out the equity in your home and your retirement accounts as 'savings'.

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2022 11:20 AM (fwjwo)

140 129 @tarapalmeri
DNC is slashing prices for a photo w/ Kamala Harris. Tickets for a photo with the VP at the Women's Leadership Forum started at $15,000, but it failed to sell enough tickets & is being postponed. VP's June fundraiser in Cali is charging $5,000 for a photo ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Spring Is In the Air! at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (FVME7)
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Do I get the NFT for the picture, too? If I just get a *representation* of the picture, I think the price is too high now that alternatives exist. If I buy the actual picture, that's another story.

Posted by: Silicon Valley Harris Booster at June 21, 2022 11:19 AM (WWh8n)

For that much must be "full service" photography...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:20 AM (ynpvh)

141 Not approving but I do like states having their own flair.
Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:15 AM (4vi12)

Yeah, I agree. That the way the Constitution is supposed to work. !0th Amendment, y'all.

That being said, I have zero desire to live in the neighborhood, city, or state, with anyone who would murder their 28 day old child.

Psycho is as psycho does.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2022 11:20 AM (5NkmN)

142 Good, timely piece, Dave in Fla. Thanks.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at June 21, 2022 11:21 AM (nByzo)

143 DNC is slashing prices for a photo w/ Kamala Harris.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Spring Is In the Air! at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (FVME7)
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She's crazy and she'll do *anything* for a deal!

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:21 AM (krQz2)

144 Janet Yellen's speaking style does not inspire confidence. The fact that she's a fucking retard also does not inspire confidence.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 21, 2022 11:21 AM (Qy7kP)

145 There was some big university "ethicist" who said it was ethical to kill little ones up to the age of two, because they weren't developed enough to be fully human until then.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022

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How recent was that? In about 1974 Philip K. Dick published a short story about a future "Amerika" in which abortion was legal up to 6 years of age. The tale focused on a couple of kids who were coming up on that deadline and were horribly aware of it. I don't recall the title. Now I wonder if he was inspired by the item you mention, if it happened that long ago.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:21 AM (txdEq)

146 "huge stockpiles of savings" that earned less than 1%. Did Yellen mention that?

Posted by: Ziba at June 21, 2022 11:21 AM (4h9M3)

147 There was some big university "ethicist" who said it was ethical to kill little ones up to the age of two, because they weren't developed enough to be fully human until then.
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Clearly, the ethicist has never been around two year olds.

Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:21 AM (4vi12)

148 60 Willowed: Why is 'Juneteenth' being celebrated in areas where the Emancipation Proclamation didn't apply?
Posted by: Dishonest Abe

A salient point. Fun fact: New Orleans and the surrounding area were specifically *excluded* from the EP; it's right there in the text. That and other places under Union control at the time were excluded. Wolfus Aurelius
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The legal case under the Laws of War for the Emancipation Proclamation was that slaves were a vital part of the South's ability to produce war goods. Thus, like in a blockade, war goods can be seized under Presidential authority alone. In areas where the Union controlled, no such legal argument existed.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:21 AM (xA2KX)

149 I want to see a Groupon for a Kamala picture. Then I will laugh.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:21 AM (PiwSw)

150 Gee, the Dumocraps are tying themselves to a fringe issue that nobody but their fever-swamp hysterics give a shit about. Shocker!

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2022 11:21 AM (iFTx/)

151 She's crazy and she'll do *anything* for a deal!
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:21 AM (krQz2)
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She's already demonstrated what she'll do for a promotion...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 21, 2022 11:22 AM (YIVH2)

152 145 There was some big university "ethicist" who said it was ethical to kill little ones up to the age of two, because they weren't developed enough to be fully human until then.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022

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How recent was that? In about 1974 Philip K. Dick published a short story about a future "Amerika" in which abortion was legal up to 6 years of age. The tale focused on a couple of kids who were coming up on that deadline and were horribly aware of it. I don't recall the title. Now I wonder if he was inspired by the item you mention, if it happened that long ago.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:21 AM (txdEq)

1990's or early 2000's, I believe.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:22 AM (ynpvh)

153 "Will it motivate the Democrat base to vote?

No, it will not."

But it's really good for motivating some of them to violence, and motivating others to try and start jihads in the office (I've seen this myself; the wokesters are trying to get the board to commit to identifying and firing peers with "incorrect" opinions.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at June 21, 2022 11:22 AM (6Xyqy)

154 VP's June fundraiser in Cali is charging $5,000 for a photo ...

Same as in town?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at June 21, 2022 11:22 AM (gz1VM)

155 Not approving but I do like states having their own flair.
Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:15 AM (4vi12)
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But they need more than just the minimum.

Posted by: Chotchkie's Shift Manager at June 21, 2022 11:22 AM (krQz2)

156 "113
Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.
Posted by: BignJames at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (AwYPR)
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Yellen evidently does not live in America, where prices have climbed so fast, savings which should see people through a couple of catastrophes are wiped out with just a minor setback.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (5pTK/)"

Yellen knows damn well that if this was the case it'd be bad news for inflation.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at June 21, 2022 11:22 AM (6Xyqy)

157 Dear CO Morons, if you choose to participate in the primaries, the Dems have a trojan horse candidate name Ron Hanks. He is out of CA and ran as a Dem there and pretending to be Ultra MAGA here. Their is a ton of Soros money ads "against" this guy as too conservative.

And ad money against his opponent as too liberal (from Dems natch). Anyway don't vote for Hanks, he's a fake.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 21, 2022 11:22 AM (8GBH4)

158 That editorial is monstrous.

Poor children that were killed, and the one that survived.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2022 11:23 AM (ufFY8)

159 The November elections are going to hinge on ~~the economy, as you will see on Thursday.~~ the Democrats' control of every state's voting process and ability to control who counts the votes.

That said, the Democrat control of the nation's voting process may not be able to steal all the Senate and House elections. But they certainly will steal the Presidential election once again in 2024. Considering they have faced zero accountability or punishment for their brazen rigging and steal in 2020 and every single person who perpetrated that crime remains in their positions today.

My interest is in Wretched's re-election results here in Michigan. This state has gone full Karen, especially with the Plandemic policies. Michigan Department of Health and Human Services is fully in the employ of China and the WEF with their hard push of masks and "vaccines". But the scrunt triumvirate of Wretched, Nessel and Benson control the state's voting process. They'll steal their re-election just like they stole Michigan for Biden in 2020. They already arrested the top GOP challenger on bogus charges.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 21, 2022 11:23 AM (Do5/p)

160 Yellen said inflation was transitory. She's already had to walk that back. These people live in a bubble and have no clue how the rest of the country lives.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at June 21, 2022 11:23 AM (5HBd1)

161 Yellen evidently does not live in America, where prices have climbed so fast, savings which should see people through a couple of catastrophes are wiped out with just a minor setback.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (5pTK/)
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Yellen is an idiot, or a liar.
Usually on any given month 60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. A stockpile of savings my ass. Those that have savings aren't spending them.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (anj39)

162 Our media has been shit for a long time. The New York Times was pro Hitler in the late 1930's.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (QSjkU)

163 There was some big university "ethicist" who said it was ethical to kill little ones up to the age of two, because they weren't developed enough to be fully human until then.

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Peter Singer.

Highly credentialed.

*spit*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (XG2Fi)

164 Willowed: Why is 'Juneteenth' being celebrated in areas where the Emancipation Proclamation didn't apply?
Posted by: Dishonest Abe
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And, why is it being celebrated in states that knew of the EP up to a year before Texas?

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (krQz2)

165 But there is no consequence for being wrong or even for outright lying about this. So I think they have no idea whether a recession is likely or not, but they do know it sounds better to say its not.
Posted by: blaster

The elites live in their own very secure world of managing to make very large sums of money by gaming systems. To them, anyone who is anyone has a lot of money and it would be crass and unseemly to be broke. The poor and almost poor are expendable and only to be used for propaganda.

Posted by: Cheri at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (oiNtH)

166 it was ethical to kill little ones up to the age of two

Kevorkian Pediatrics!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (gz1VM)

167 The legal case under the Laws of War for the Emancipation Proclamation was that slaves were a vital part of the South's ability to produce war goods. Thus, like in a blockade, war goods can be seized under Presidential authority alone. In areas where the Union controlled, no such legal argument existed.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022

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Ah. Well, I just thought it was odd that nobody ever mentions that little detail.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (txdEq)

168 160 Yellen said inflation was transitory. She's already had to walk that back. These people live in a bubble and have no clue how the rest of the country lives.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at June 21, 2022 11:23 AM (5HBd1)

She meant to say it's transgender. It believes it's economic growth.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (ynpvh)

169 This is just weird.

It looks like the reason Senile Joe fell off his bike is because he couldn't wait to creep on a little girl in the crowd.

https://instapundit.com/526792/
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LOL, well now we know why all the videos of Slow Joe's fall that were on various internet sites were cut off right at the point where he falls.

They didn't want people to see that as soon as Biden stood up again he made a beeline for the little girl.

Disgusting old lecherous perv. He should have been neutered decades ago.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (MvHI3)

170 FWIW, public surveys regarding abortion have been relatively stagnant for decades moving a bit to the right after fetal imaging became a thing. But, the Democrat activist core has went hard left since the Clinton years defending even abortion after birth as legitimate. My guess is that is from Planned Parenthood's political influence as fetal tissues are much more valuable to sell from late term abortions than early drug induced ones.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:25 AM (xA2KX)

171 November is going to be LIT if Republicans take both houses!

...cause of Antifa and the FIB, mainly.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:09 AM (krQz2)

I assume antifa will be shelling the Capitol while Morlock Garland says that protests are protected speech.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at June 21, 2022 11:25 AM (zhLdt)

172 119 111 There was some big university "ethicist" who said it was ethical to kill little ones up to the age of two, because they weren't developed enough to be fully human until then.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (ynpvh)

That was probably Peter Singer, at Princeton.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (PiwSw)

Posted by: m at June 21, 2022 11:25 AM (VnUSN)

173 Dow is up 500+. Go figure.

Posted by: Ziba at June 21, 2022 11:25 AM (4h9M3)

174 One of the problems that militant pro-abortionists have is since they never talk to anyone else, they have no idea how their messaging strikes normal people.

The Washington Post ran an article entitled:

This Texas teen wanted an abortion. She now has twins.

This was allegedly the result of Texas' new abortion legislation.

The article ran with a picture of the young mother changing the diapers on her two twin babies.

Does the Post really think that the average person is going to look at that picture and think: "Yeah, those two babies really should have ended up in a dumpster."

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2022 11:25 AM (I2/tG)

175 I keep hearing there is gonna be a decision on Roe vs Wade. Where is is? Two weeks?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:09 AM (QSjkU)

SCOTUS has decided to keep it a secret.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at June 21, 2022 11:26 AM (zhLdt)

176 I'm surprised the gun manufacturers haven't come out with a George Floyd Junetenth Pistol yet. Maybe a custom grip to make shooting sideways more accurate.
Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM (4vi12)

Make Juneteenth "happy fire" ammo, loaded with TNT. The mob would get a real bang out of it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2022 11:26 AM (eYiWb)

177 Our media has been shit for a long time. The New York Times was pro Hitler in the late 1930's.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (QSjkU)
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W. E. B. Dubois was rather impressed by Herr Hitler.

You know--a real rightie!

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:26 AM (krQz2)

178 55% of democrats are against late-term abortion. That leaves 45% of ghoulish monsters whose religion is their ideology. Swerving from 100% faith is catastrophic for them. There are the truly sick, who have given up all means of rationally thinking this issue through, but I wonder how many of the others -- if actually confronted by the reality of the barbaric procedure -- would flinch.

I watched the movie Unplanned a few years ago. The abortion scene they used (I believe it was near the beginning) to set up Abby Johnson's awakening was shocking. It was to Abortion what the first 15 minutes of Saving Private Ryan was to Warfare.

I only wish those ideologically opposed to what can sometimes be a very difficult decision, would spend as much time facing the *reality* of that "choice" as they do in staging theatrical protests.

Posted by: red speck at June 21, 2022 11:26 AM (gS3OW)

179 162 Our media has been shit for a long time. The New York Times was pro Hitler in the late 1930's.
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Who could resist Hitler's charm? Guy is a rock star. Bigger than Elvis.

Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:26 AM (4vi12)

180 The court issued opinions in the following five cases: Carson v. Makin, Marietta Memorial Hospital Employee Health Benefit Plan v. DaVita, Shoop v. Twyford, United States v. Taylor, and United States v. Washington.

https://www.scotusblog.com

Posted by: m at June 21, 2022 11:26 AM (VnUSN)

181 Ah. Well, I just thought it was odd that nobody ever mentions that little detail.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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There are a lot of unpleasant surprises and caveats for woke individuals in history--that is by and large why they want to destroy it just like the Taliban. Like other totalitarian movements, the importance is the narrative--not facts.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:27 AM (xA2KX)

182 I say it is ethical to kill leftists at any age, as they never fully develop into humans. Bring on the green energy extermination vans.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:27 AM (QSjkU)

183 140 129 @tarapalmeri
DNC is slashing prices for a photo w/ Kamala Harris. Tickets for a photo with the VP at the Women's Leadership Forum started at $15,000, but it failed to sell enough tickets & is being postponed. VP's June fundraiser in Cali is charging $5,000 for a photo ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Spring Is In the Air! at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (FVME7)

Kam: Wait, you're only charging $5K for a picture with me?
Last remaining staffer: Let's face it, ma'am, you've done a lot more for a lot less.
Kam: I rescind my comment.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at June 21, 2022 11:27 AM (KbCG3)

184 Just a minor nit, but I read there are 13 opinions to go, not 18.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:27 AM (PiwSw)

185 The legal case under the Laws of War for the Emancipation Proclamation was that slaves were a vital part of the South's ability to produce war goods.

Excuse me if I have a problem seeing slaves produce muskets and cannons.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 21, 2022 11:27 AM (OzJjC)

186 Does the Post really think that the average person is going to look at that picture and think: "Yeah, those two babies really should have ended up in a dumpster."
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2022 11:25 AM (I2/tG)

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"Babies"?

No. The preferred term is "clumps of cells."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022 11:28 AM (XG2Fi)

187 Uncivil Law does a speed reading of the decisions as they are dropped. I caught the last couple cases from today
Interesting.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2022 11:10 AM (ufFY

Care to explain? Or is there too much? Feel free to sum up.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at June 21, 2022 11:28 AM (zhLdt)

188 She meant to say it's transgender. It ~~believes it's~~ identifies as economic growth.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (ynpvh)

just for clarity

Posted by: BignJames at June 21, 2022 11:28 AM (AwYPR)

189
Disgusting old lecherous perv. He should have been neutered decades ago.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at June 21, 2022 11:24 AM (MvHI3)
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He wasn't done. Next day, walking on the beach, couple wanted a picture of their toddler girl with creepy Joe. Crazy right. Well, the littler girl didn't want to but creepy Joe grabbed her and wouldn't let go.

Posted by: WisRich at June 21, 2022 11:28 AM (G0vdT)

190 182 I say it is ethical to kill leftists at any age, as they never fully develop into humans. Bring on the green energy extermination vans.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:27 AM (QSjkU)

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"No...wait...you're not allowed to define human. If we're going to have an effervescent definition of humanity, it is only I would will get to decide it on a rotating, daily basis with some rando on Tumblr."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:28 AM (LvTSG)

191 SCOTUS has decided to keep it a secret.

Roberts is still trying to change one of the anti-Roe votes.

As time goes on, it seems more and more likely that Roberts was the one who leaked the draft decision.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (I2/tG)

192 Know I've asked this before, but what were Baris' final presidential number for 2020? And also interesting would be his final numbers for the key 5 states.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (OTzUX)

193 Let's face it, ma'am,

She has 'faced it's many times

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (ufFY8)

194 There was some big university "ethicist" who said it was ethical to kill little ones up to the age of two, because they weren't developed enough to be fully human until then.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:16 AM (ynpvh)

Professor Doctor Mengele, MD PHD.

He was a tough grader.

Posted by: Archer at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (gmo/4)

195 Thanks, Dave in Fl.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (5pTK/)

196 The preference shift on abortion and guns has been heartening.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

I posit that it is a shift in belief that the federal government has our interests at heart. People are less likely to defer to government.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (lTGtQ)

197 Henry Ford was also a big Hitler fan. Even gave money to the Nazi party, I think.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (8vG5C)

198 184 Just a minor nit, but I read there are 13 opinions to go, not 18.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:27 AM (PiwSw)

13 after the 5 opinions were released today?

Posted by: m at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (VnUSN)

199 As time goes on, it seems more and more likely that Roberts was the one who leaked the draft decision.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (I2/tG)
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Sure would be a good thing to get an investigation on an illegal leak of a Supreme Court decision....

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (krQz2)

200 I only wish those ideologically opposed to what can sometimes be a very difficult decision, would spend as much time facing the *reality* of that "choice" as they do in staging theatrical protests.

Posted by: red speck
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To do so honestly would make them feel like monsters because it repudiates their ideals that they are for the oppressed. Same thing as woke individuals avoiding the unpleasant reality of slavery existing today in Africa, the Middle East, and China and even the US with sex trafficking. Far easier to attack the long dead slavers in the South.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (xA2KX)

201 200!

Posted by: m at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (VnUSN)

202 saw a bit of Yellin earlier on Fox Biz news or someplace. The woman really sounds like she's on some sort of medication. Computer simulated voices ("This call is from the Department of Treasury. You are being investigated by the IRS. A failure to respond within 48 hours will lead to further charges...") sound more normal.

also, when she and Pres Jellybrain and others say that 'a recession is not inevitable' what they are implying is that when the recession does hit, it won't be their fault.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (Ynyl9)

203 40 >>>Polls are for strippers.

Anyone else read that like, "Silly rabbit... Trix are for kids!"?

Posted by: red speck at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (gS3OW)

204 191 SCOTUS has decided to keep it a secret.
Roberts is still trying to change one of the anti-Roe votes.
As time goes on, it seems more and more likely that Roberts was the one who leaked the draft decision.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (I2/tG)

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I don't doubt he's trying, but you've got to remember two things.

The first is that 2020 did happen and the (presumably) four justices who agreed to sign onto Alito's opinion knew that the left was resorting to violence to get what they wanted at the time.

The second is that Thomas himself also stood up and said that the leak would change nothing about how the court operates.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (LvTSG)

205 VP's June fundraiser in Cali is charging $5,000 for a photo

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Bitch slapped by Adam Smith's invisible hand.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Spring Is In the Air! at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (FVME7)

I wouldn't pay $5000 for a photo with that scrunt, even if she were naked and had her lips around my dick.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (eYiWb)

206 This sun-kissed blonde has reached the conclusion that anyone with "ethicist" in his job title is likely to be an evil monster:
https://is.gd/4iqH5P

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (WWh8n)

207
Yellen is an idiot, or a liar.
Usually on any given month 60% of Americans are living paycheck to paycheck. A stockpile of savings my ass. Those that have savings aren't spending them.
Posted by: Diogenes

All the people She Knows have stockpiles.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (63Dwl)

208 "Babies"?

No. The preferred term is "clumps of cells."

But that's the Post's problem - showing two healthy babies, and explaining that they should have been aborted, kind of undermines the "clump of cells" argument.

It's terrible messaging for them.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (I2/tG)

209 Henry Ford was also a big Hitler fan. Even gave money to the Nazi party, I think.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (8vG5C)

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Charles Lindbergh trashed his own reputation by supporting the Nazis.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022 11:31 AM (XG2Fi)

210 185 The legal case under the Laws of War for the Emancipation Proclamation was that slaves were a vital part of the South's ability to produce war goods.

Excuse me if I have a problem seeing slaves produce muskets and cannons.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 21, 2022 11:27 AM (OzJjC)

The South was reliant on import for most things. So cotton into guns, whe they could get past the blockades.

Posted by: Someguy's at June 21, 2022 11:31 AM (agAQ/)

211 IF pressed, she would point out the equity in your home and your retirement accounts as 'savings'.
Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2022 11:20 AM (fwjwo)

Or she could just say "oh well we did not anticipate this." It isn't like she's going to get fired, or even docked a day's pay. It isn't even like some media person is going to pierce her cocoon and ask "did you really just say that?" She isn't going to be disinvited from the tony cocktail parties.

I mean, even if she rolls out those fig leafs above, no one is even going to say but the stock market has "corrected" to pre Jan 20, 2021 levels and the housing market is crashing with high mortgage rates.

Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2022 11:31 AM (6TxNR)

212 Yeah, and about 30 minutes after the justices are wheels-up and firmly en route to an undisclosed location.

Posted by: Joe Mannix

What does it say about democrats that our justice system is afraid of violence from them? Every measure of violence in the past multiple years has been from democrats. They want mob rule, no different than the sans culottes.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 21, 2022 11:31 AM (lTGtQ)

213 164 Willowed: Why is 'Juneteenth' being celebrated in areas where the Emancipation Proclamation didn't apply?
Posted by: Dishonest Abe
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And, why is it being celebrated in states that knew of the EP up to a year before Texas?
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The EP was a Hail Mary Pass thrown by Abe in hopes of inciting a slave rebellion in the Confederacy. It was a dud. Junetenth, at best, is a Texas History moment. BTW, the EP, if strictly observed, would have allowed slavery in DE, MD, KY, and MO cuz they were not in the Confederacy. Jeebus, people watch way too much TeeVee.

Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:31 AM (4vi12)

214 13 after the 5 opinions were released today?
Posted by: m at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (VnUSN)

Correct.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:31 AM (PiwSw)

215 Henry Ford was also a big Hitler fan. Even gave money to the Nazi party, I think.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (8vG5C)

the feeling was mutual. Hitler discussed Henry Ford in Mein Kampf

Posted by: Archer at June 21, 2022 11:31 AM (gmo/4)

216 I'm surprised the gun manufacturers haven't come out with a George Floyd Junetenth Pistol yet. Maybe a custom grip to make shooting sideways more accurate.
Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:14 AM (4vi12)

Put the eject port on the other side so it's less likely to jam when being fired sideways by a right hander.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at June 21, 2022 11:32 AM (zhLdt)

217 Point being even though the audience was a very liberal group who I'm sure was overwhelmingly "pro-choice", if you go into the details of what that entails these days, support drops off.
Posted by: brak

Which is why PP and pro-abortion groups fight against heartbeat laws whereby a pregnant woman has to hear the heartbeat before getting an abortion. Once you hear the heartbeat, it ceases to be a clump of cells.

Posted by: Cheri at June 21, 2022 11:32 AM (oiNtH)

218 In order to reverse the policies which have ruined the economy, Democrats would have to admit those policies were wrong. Don't see that happening any time soon.

If history is any judge, expect the Dems to double down.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 21, 2022 11:32 AM (p+1gI)

219 > Abortion was 'invented' to destroy the black race, especially in America.

True, and black babies are disproportionately the victims of abortion to this day.

If it weren't for abortion, blacks would be 25% of the U.S. population, rather than 12%.

What's that word for when you wipe out 50% of an ethnicity? Oh, yeah: "genocide". That's it.

In most of Europe (you know, that place that leftists like so much) abortion is legal in the first trimester, but very heavily restricted in later ones. You can get a pretty good rise out of a commie by suggesting that we should adopt European norms on when abortion is acceptable, then pointing out exactly what those norms are.

I believe the Netherlands is the only country in Western Europe that allows abortion up until birth. But then, they also allow murdering old people.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:32 AM (bW8dp)

220 Sure would be a good thing to get an investigation on an illegal leak of a Supreme Court decision....
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (krQz2)

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The FBI file on it is parked right next to the Ark of the Covenant.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022 11:32 AM (XG2Fi)

221 Charles Lindbergh trashed his own reputation by supporting the Nazis.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022 11:31 AM (XG2Fi)
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The progressives admired the "boldness" and "energy" of the European fascists Mussolini and Hitler.

Just the same way that they don't like things like individual choice and public opinion to stop their "progress" here.

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:32 AM (krQz2)

222 The second is that Thomas himself also stood up and said that the leak would change nothing about how the court operates.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (LvTSG)

Thomas doesn't run the Court.

He can only speak for himself. The Justices with young kids under threat? Some might think they are...persuadable.

Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (6TxNR)

223 I vividly remember the thing that pushed me out of an indifferent pro-choice-by-default position and started the journey that led to my current position. It was an editorial in the New York Times.

https://archive.ph/86ild
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (WWh8n)

When her son reads that article he'll realize that Mom only loves him so much. If he's too much of a burden, well tough luck kid.

Posted by: WiNO at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (EpDzw)

224 Know I've asked this before, but what were Baris' final presidential number for 2020? And also interesting would be his final numbers for the key 5 states.
Posted by: rhomboid
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He didn't do national polling in 2020, only state polling. He was closest of all pollsters in PA, WI, AZ, FL, and NC. Even with the cheating in 4 of those states.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (5p7BC)

225 The FBI file on it is parked right next to the Ark of the Covenant.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022 11:32 AM (XG2Fi)

And on top of Obama's college transcripts..

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (PiwSw)

226 The coming battle will be the Blue States arbitraging and therefore, violating of federal law. States such as NY are already saying they will ignore the NYSRPA ruling. That's because they know it will come down that The Bills of Rights doesn't allow states to arbitrarily dispense those rights. So NY will try to subvert that decision and in the process usurp people's rights. That sets up a very bad conflict where the state has become an authoritarian and willfully disregards the law, then is backed by a corrupt partisan state judiciary. I can think of few other things that will cause such a volatile conflict.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (VpIIl)

227 I'm surprised the gun manufacturers haven't come out with a George Floyd Junetenth Pistol yet. Maybe a custom grip to make shooting sideways more accurate.
Posted by: puddinhead

Front and rear sight on the right side of the slide.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (OzJjC)

228 > Yellen is an idiot, or a liar.

Point of order: those aren't mutually exclusive.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (bW8dp)

229 Care to explain? Or is there too much? Feel free to sum up.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at June 21, 2022 11:28 AM (zhLdt)

Just saying that his speed readings are interesting to listen to as they drop. Lots of content about the cases, and he guesses what the decision will be before he gets there.

You can check out his videos at Uncivil Law.
He is a nerdy ginger with a whiny voice, lol.

He did talk about habeus corpus being more limited now.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (ufFY8)

230 Dow is up 500+. Go figure.
Posted by: Ziba at June 21, 2022 11:25 AM (4h9M3)

Huh?

Wha' happened?

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (5NkmN)

231 197 Henry Ford was also a big Hitler fan. Even gave money to the Nazi party, I think.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at June 21, 2022 11:29 AM (8vG5C)

True. Old Henry was a nasty piece of work. Forced Edsel into an early grave. Edsel was a better man by far.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (QSjkU)

232 If and when Dobbs overturns Roe completely, blue state governments will react with proposed laws that make abortion legal until a week after birth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (LvTSG)

California and Maryland already have laws waiting to be passed which will "decriminalize" infanticide up to 28 days after birth.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:13 AM (PiwSw)

What happens when the government changes to a more traditional viewpoint? The Statute of Limitations on Murder and Accessory to Commit Murder never runs out.

Posted by: rd at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (Z32m1)

233 Of course. Cornyn is an enthusiastic proponent of Junet.... (I refuse to say that retarded word)

Do better, Texas. Do better.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (/NCI4)

234 "Moreover, even if you have a decent cash position, what is your inventive to consume anything but long-life durable goods right now? ... It's just pulled-forward demand to get ahead of the curve on things like refrigerators and laundry appliances." mannix

yeah, people are "prepping" to one degree or another. Ammo, hard liquor, some foods, tools and equipment, etc.

But those that stayed heavy in stocks did well, and might be looking to spend some of their wealth. Maybe they even take vacations after being shut in for two years.

Overall if stocks/bonds keep declining, it will be a negative wealth effect. Destruction of the currency though, might push people to get rid of their dollars for real stuff. imo

Posted by: illiniwek at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (Cus5s)

235 219 > I believe the Netherlands is the only country in Western Europe that allows abortion up until birth. But then, they also allow murdering old people.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:32 AM (bW8dp)

I think Switzerland may allow euthanasia as well...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

236 196 The preference shift on abortion and guns has been heartening.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

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In relatively peaceful US in the early 60's--there was a large majority in favor of banning handguns. By the end of the 60's, that majority dropped to a plurality due to crime and disorder. By the 90's, gun control became mainly a static debate in the population with Handgun Control changing its name and starting to attack the rarely used in crime semi auto rifles.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (xA2KX)

237 209 Lindbergh kind of made up on that indiscretion by shooting down a few Zeros as a civilian.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (lz5hY)

238 CBD wanted to keep this quiet cuz...well, you know, but -

he's at a secret bartending retreat where he's learning how to shake his Manhattans.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2022 11:15 AM (5NkmN)

Little does he know, we paid off the school to have them only make maple syrup Manhattans and require the students to drink them.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (zhLdt)

239 The progressives admired the "boldness" and "energy" of the European fascists Mussolini and Hitler.

Just the same way that they don't like things like individual choice and public opinion to stop their "progress" here.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:32 AM (krQz2)
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The American progressives broke ranks with the Nazis only after they did the unthinkable and went to war with the USSR. The USSR - old-school international Marxism, not nationalist socialism - was the ideal. They liked Hitler well enough, even though he was in charge of a degenerate form of socialism, until he committed the unforgivable sin of making war against the ideal.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (WWh8n)

240 26 Abortion was 'invented' to destroy the black race, especially in America.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

It existed in antiquity.

Posted by: m at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (VnUSN)

241 > The progressives admired the "boldness" and "energy" of the European fascists Mussolini and Hitler.

They just loved them some fascists until Stalin had a falling out with his buddies in Germany and Italy.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:35 AM (bW8dp)

242 If Roe v Wade is repealed this week, it will have no impact on the November elections.

Will "Jane's Revenge" riots impact the elections?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2022 11:08 AM (63Dwl)

If they carry through with their "summer of rage," I think it will. As with the 2020 election - "vote Democrat and all this destruction stops."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 21, 2022 11:35 AM (2JVJo)

243 222 Thomas doesn't run the Court.

He can only speak for himself. The Justices with young kids under threat? Some might think they are...persuadable.
Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (6TxNR)

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If any of the others give in now, they mark themselves as open to persuasion through threat of violence again. The only way to knock this back is to stand strong.

Also...they knew that the left was violent radicals when they voted in conference that led to Alito getting the task of the majority opinion.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

244 235 219 > I believe the Netherlands is the only country in Western Europe that allows abortion up until birth. But then, they also allow murdering old people.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:32 AM (bW8dp)

I think Switzerland may allow euthanasia as well...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

Totally unrelated: The movie Soylent Green was set in the year 2022.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:35 AM (PiwSw)

245 >>Dow is up 500+. Go figure.

Dead Cat Bounce

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2022 11:36 AM (fwjwo)

246 he's at a secret bartending retreat where he's learning how to shake his Manhattans.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2022 11:15 AM (5NkmN)
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I shook Manhattan before it was cool.

Posted by: Nikola Tesla at June 21, 2022 11:36 AM (WWh8n)

247 Dow is up 500+. Go figure.
Posted by: Ziba at June 21, 2022 11:25 AM (4h9M3)

Huh?

Wha' happened?
Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (5NkmN)

Printing Press go Brrrr!

Posted by: rd at June 21, 2022 11:36 AM (Z32m1)

248 232What happens when the government changes to a more traditional viewpoint? The Statute of Limitations on Murder and Accessory to Commit Murder never runs out.

Posted by: rd at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (Z32m1)

Ex-post facto. If it was legal when it was done, can't prosecute for it later, at least not legally.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

249 Cornyn referred to his constituents as a mob. Thats what the GOPe thinks of us rubes. That bastard needs to go.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:36 AM (QSjkU)

250 Dow is up 500+. Go figure.
Posted by: Ziba at June 21, 2022 11:25 AM (4h9M3)
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Nothing moves in a straight line.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:36 AM (WWh8n)

251 Here's the thing though. Nobody would cite Charles Lindbergh or Henry Ford today, or even the pro-Nazi NYT. But plenty of blacktivists will cite W. E. B. Dubois *despite* his early admiration of Hitler, despite the way that his praise of Hitler fits into his socialism.

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:36 AM (krQz2)

252 >> The progressives admired the "boldness" and "energy" of the European fascists Mussolini and Hitler.

They worship the Authority the Chinese bring to their Political Table.

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2022 11:36 AM (fwjwo)

253 filled up my F-150 this morning $142.

Posted by: Archer at June 21, 2022 11:06 AM (gmo/4)

Need to fill the boat up. Gauge says it will take 130 gallons. Not sure me or the credit card will survive the trip to gas station.

Posted by: Agitator at June 21, 2022 11:37 AM (8Avx7)

254 > It existed in antiquity.

Not on the industrial scale, it didn't. It took leftism to do that.

Same thing as how people have always been imprisoned and starved to death, but it took leftism to move it to the industrial scale, with Auschwitz and the gulags.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:37 AM (bW8dp)

255 But then, they also allow murdering old people.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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It is not only the old but anyone expressing that they want to die (even if they change their minds at the last minute). A panel of medicos decides whether your life is worth living.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:37 AM (xA2KX)

256 Need to fill the boat up. Gauge says it will take 130 gallons. Not sure me or the credit card will survive the trip to gas station.
Posted by: Agitator at June 21, 2022 11:37 AM (8Avx7)
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That's going to hurt. A lot.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:37 AM (WWh8n)

257 Dead Cat Bounce

Agree. BOINGGGG!

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2022 11:37 AM (/NCI4)

258 The poll data doesn't surprise me. The midterm election results will surprise the members of the Far Left who clearly haven't been paying attention to the citizenry.

Posted by: itzWicks at June 21, 2022 11:37 AM (MbgKo)

259 In relatively peaceful US in the early 60's--there was a large majority in favor of banning handguns. By the end of the 60's, that majority dropped to a plurality due to crime and disorder. By the 90's, gun control became mainly a static debate in the population with Handgun Control changing its name and starting to attack the rarely used in crime semi auto rifles.
Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (xA2KX)

The people who tried to ban nuclear weapons (presumably starting in the US and worrying about the rest of the world later) after they got frustrated, moved on to trying to ban nuclear power plants. These people are in search of a purpose and should be mocked until they give up and pick up harmless hobbies.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2022 11:37 AM (44ww/)

260 >> he's at a secret bartending retreat where he's learning how to shake his Manhattans.

You remember his Mucho Macho Margarita Post?

How soon we forget.

Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2022 11:37 AM (fwjwo)

261 They worship the Authority the Chinese bring to their Political Table.
Posted by: garrett at June 21, 2022 11:36 AM (fwjwo)

That's hot.

Posted by: Thomas Friedman at June 21, 2022 11:37 AM (PiwSw)

262 If and when Dobbs overturns Roe completely, blue state governments will react with proposed laws that make abortion legal until a week after birth.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:12 AM (LvTSG)

If Roe is overturned, I fully expect my asshole governor to set a land speed record rushing to the microphones to declare MA an abortion sanctuary state.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 21, 2022 11:38 AM (2JVJo)

263 If Roe is overturned, I fully expect my asshole governor to set a land speed record rushing to the microphones to declare MA an abortion sanctuary state.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 21, 2022 11:38 AM (2JVJo)
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Probably, not that will matter. Most or all of MA's neighbors will do the same.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:38 AM (WWh8n)

264 Dead Cat Bounce
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Yep. Wait for it to break and go short. The trend is down and will remain down until 2024.

Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:39 AM (4vi12)

265 > starting to attack the rarely used in crime semi auto rifles.

Literally more people are killed with hands and feet than are killed with any type of rifle, "assault" or otherwise.

But we don't have a Bloomberg astroturf operation named "Everytown for Foot Safety", now, do we?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:39 AM (bW8dp)

266 Also...they knew that the left was violent radicals when they voted in conference that led to Alito getting the task of the majority opinion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

I'll say it again. That was before a guy showed up Kavanaugh's house with a Glock and zipties.

Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2022 11:39 AM (6TxNR)

267 Dave in Fla

Thank you for the good and hopeful analysis.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:39 AM (u82oZ)

268 233 >>>Of course. Cornyn is an enthusiastic proponent of Junet.... (I refuse to say that retarded word)

Do better, Texas. Do better.

I'm in support of celebrating great moments in American history. But anything that would inspire something like that ludicrous "Hair-pick/Black Power salute" statue they dedicated on the 19th should get a hearty thumbs-down with a side of uproarious laughter.

Posted by: red speck at June 21, 2022 11:40 AM (gS3OW)

269 266 Also...they knew that the left was violent radicals when they voted in conference that led to Alito getting the task of the majority opinion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

I'll say it again. That was before a guy showed up Kavanaugh's house with a Glock and zipties.
Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2022 11:39 AM (6TxNR)

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It was after the left let BLM burn down entire cities. They knew what they were getting into.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:40 AM (LvTSG)

270 Charles Lindbergh trashed his own reputation by supporting the Nazis.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022

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I thought it was just that he was an America First isolationist, and was willing to meet with Hitler in the years before Pearl Harbor -- not that he actively *supported* the Nazi regime? He certainly lent his all to the war effort after PH, didn't he?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:40 AM (txdEq)

271 265 > starting to attack the rarely used in crime semi auto rifles.

Literally more people are killed with hands and feet than are killed with any type of rifle, "assault" or otherwise.

But we don't have a Bloomberg astroturf operation named "Everytown for Foot Safety", now, do we?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:39 AM (bW8dp)

More kids drown in pools, so we should enforce pool control.
"Looks like you got yourself there an assault pool, mister!"--Kalifornia Police

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:40 AM (ynpvh)

272 If they carry through with their "summer of rage," I think it will. As with the 2020 election - "vote Democrat and all this destruction stops."

Posted by: Mary Poppins
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Those riots occurred in blue areas--primarily cities run by Dems. Different story in the burb and most red states. The truth is that most riots are always easily stopped by imposition of overwhelming force early. All it will do in most areas is accelerate gun buying by non gun owners.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:40 AM (xA2KX)

273 12 CBD's on vacation?

Maple Syrup Maple Syrup Maple Syrup Shake Shake Shake!

*cackles hysterically*

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:02 AM (PiwSw)
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I'm telling CBD on you. Wait till he gets back!

Posted by: Ciampino The Tattler Extraordinaire at June 21, 2022 11:40 AM (qfLjt)

274 Cornyn referred to his constituents as a mob. Thats what the GOPe thinks of us rubes. That bastard needs to go.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:36 AM (QSjkU)

Crenshaw, too. Fuck that traitorous McStain wannabe right in his eyehole.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (2JVJo)

275 Ukraine military and Zelenskyy begin rounding up members of the opposing parties, common citizens that have been critical of Ukrainian policy or supportive of Putin in social media posts.

Coming to an America near you soon.

https://tinyurl.com/244kt445

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (eh1Wg)

276 266 Also...they knew that the left was violent radicals when they voted in conference that led to Alito getting the task of the majority opinion.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

I'll say it again. That was before a guy showed up Kavanaugh's house with a Glock and zipties.

Posted by: blaster at June 21, 2022 11:39 AM (6TxNR)

Xe was just looking for a little S&M adventure...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (ynpvh)

277 Charles Lindbergh trashed his own reputation by supporting the Nazis.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022 11:31 AM (XG2Fi)

He didn't support the Nazis. He didn't believe we should get involved in another European war.

Posted by: WiNO at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (EpDzw)

278 The poll data doesn't surprise me. The midterm election results will surprise the members of the Far Left who clearly haven't been paying attention to the citizenry.
Posted by: itzWicks at June 21, 2022 11:37 AM (MbgKo)

I think the big cheat will be in again.

Posted by: MAC V SOG at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (P4Pk9)

279 If they carry through with their "summer of rage," I think it will. As with the 2020 election - "vote Democrat and all this destruction stops."

The problem the D's have was that the D's weren't in power in 2020 - voting for Biden was presented as a return to normalcy, including an end to the riots.

They can't use that as an argument now.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (I2/tG)

280 "The left cheated their way to victory."

"The left won by convincing people to vote Democrat to bring normalcy back."

These are mutually exclusive views.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (LvTSG)

281 blaster

The schools targeted math and analysis so the Left's magic thinking could not be shredded.

Nor the GOPe acquiescence to evil.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (u82oZ)

282 Gee, any chance the states which enact infanticide laws will draw in a bunch of like minded crazies, thereby improving the electoral chances of the saner states of the Union?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (5pTK/)

283 Totally unrelated: The movie Soylent Green was set in the year 2022.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:35 AM (PiwSw)

Watch the movie for the social hierarchy. A small uncaring upper crust using people. She's the Furniture that comes with the Apartment.

Another section of people desperately holding on to the little privileges and luxuries they have; like the Cop played by Heston.

And a whole mass of humanity that own nothing, care about nothing, and they like it.

Posted by: rd at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (Z32m1)

284 I vividly remember the thing that pushed me out of an indifferent pro-choice-by-default position and started the journey that led to my current position. It was an editorial in the New York Times.

https://archive.ph/86ild

I think I remember reading that one. The "omg I'll have to shop at Costco and buy big jars of mayo" line stuck out at the time. Still awful all these years later. I wonder how her now almost grown son feels reading that?

Posted by: brak at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (j5Tg0)

285 But we don't have a Bloomberg astroturf operation named "Everytown for Foot Safety", now, do we?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
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Ultimately, it is aimed at destroying the right to self defense. The only way that the relatively weak can resist the strong is Samuel Colt's great equalizer.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (xA2KX)

286 If Roe is overturned, I fully expect my asshole governor to set a land speed record rushing to the microphones to declare MA an abortion sanctuary state.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 21, 2022 11:38 AM (2JVJo)

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He'll have to fight CA for the business. Newsom promises an abortion Mecca.

The CA Tourism Council has a real challenge ahead of it, what with having to mix images of dead babies with the usual shots of surfing and Disneyland.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (XG2Fi)

287 273 12 CBD's on vacation?

Maple Syrup Maple Syrup Maple Syrup Shake Shake Shake!

*cackles hysterically*

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 21, 2022 11:02 AM (PiwSw)
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I'm telling CBD on you. Wait till he gets back!

Posted by: Ciampino The Tattler Extraordinaire at June 21, 2022 11:40 AM (qfLjt)

What would CBD's take be on CBD-infused syrup on waffles?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:42 AM (ynpvh)

288 I'm in support of celebrating great moments in American history.

Agree. We should celebrate the Emancipation Proclamation, but no Fed holiday is needed.

Posted by: Archimedes at June 21, 2022 11:42 AM (/NCI4)

289 TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven

Going with Nr. 1. The criminals and communists have taken over the corridors of power.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:42 AM (u82oZ)

290
All the pro-choice chicks want James Dean.

All the pro-choice chicks will settle for Matthew McConaughey

All the pro-choice chicks will get Toothpick Monkey.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 21, 2022 11:42 AM (0ocXn)

291 I thought it was just that he was an America First isolationist, and was willing to meet with Hitler in the years before Pearl Harbor -- not that he actively *supported* the Nazi regime? He certainly lent his all to the war effort after PH, didn't he?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:40 AM (txdEq)

He was an American First guy. He didn't support the Nazis. The people who repeat that have no idea of what they are talking about.

Posted by: WiNO at June 21, 2022 11:42 AM (EpDzw)

292 The American progressives broke ranks with the Nazis only after they did the unthinkable and went to war with the USSR. The USSR - old-school international Marxism, not nationalist socialism - was the ideal. They liked Hitler well enough, even though he was in charge of a degenerate form of socialism, until he committed the unforgivable sin of making war against the ideal.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (WWh8n)
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Which illustrates that they praised the socialism in national socialism before the national part meant going to war against other socialists, and not strictly "fighting for the cause".

It's not that NS isn't sufficiently socialistic, it's that it is more pragmatic and realistic.

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:42 AM (krQz2)

293 The schools targeted math and analysis so the Left's magic thinking could not be shredded.

Nor the GOPe acquiescence to evil.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (u82oZ)
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Yeah, thinking has gone right out the window. Assertions and premises are blindly accepted as fact, rather than being examined.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:42 AM (5pTK/)

294 I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper

Go wild!

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:43 AM (u82oZ)

295 Interesting poll. Thanks Dave!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 21, 2022 11:43 AM (kf6Ak)

296 Democrats are a death cult. They want to kill you in the womb, corrupt and kill you as a child, murder you if you disagree with them, and kill you when you're old.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 21, 2022 11:43 AM (VpIIl)

297 289 TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven

Going with Nr. 1. The criminals and communists have taken over the corridors of power.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:42 AM (u82oZ)

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Then voting and politics doesn't matter at all.

Might as well go fishin'.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:43 AM (LvTSG)

298 Biden tried to stop his bike to cop a quick feel of a four year old girl. There is photo evidence

Posted by: Regular joe at June 21, 2022 11:43 AM (nnp+f)

299 Dave in Fla, thanks - but what did Baris' numbers show in PA WI AZ? What was the delta between his numbers and official results?

Posted by: rhomboid at June 21, 2022 11:44 AM (OTzUX)

300 Charles Lindbergh trashed his own reputation by supporting the Nazis.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022 11:31 AM (XG2Fi)

He didn't support the Nazis. He didn't believe we should get involved in another European war.
Posted by: WiNO at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (EpDzw)

Palling around with that fat homo pervert Hermann Goering watching German AF planes did not help make his case.

Posted by: rd at June 21, 2022 11:44 AM (Z32m1)

301 The CA Tourism Council has a real challenge ahead of it, what with having to mix images of dead babies with the usual shots of surfing and Disneyland.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022 11:41 AM (XG2Fi)
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I'd like to see someone put together a subversive ad, wherein a surfer is riding a wave at sunset, which, somehow, makes the wave appear blood red.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:45 AM (5pTK/)

302 Did German soldiers use foot wraps or socks in those stompy boots? Does anyone know?

Posted by: puddinhead at June 21, 2022 11:45 AM (4vi12)

303 He was an American First guy. He didn't support the Nazis. The people who repeat that have no idea of what they are talking about.
Posted by: WiNO at June 21, 2022 11:42 AM (EpDzw)
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Well, despite that young John Kennedy was a prominent America-firster, the progs have always seen the America First movement as "American Nazis".

I think that's how the confusion comes. Because we're always getting prog pre-chewed information in our history.

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:45 AM (krQz2)

304 the Daniel Day Lewis monkee is back

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted by: REDACTED at June 21, 2022 11:45 AM (us2H3)

305 The American progressives broke ranks with the Nazis only after they did the unthinkable and went to war with the USSR. The USSR - old-school international Marxism, not nationalist socialism - was the ideal. They liked Hitler well enough, even though he was in charge of a degenerate form of socialism, until he committed the unforgivable sin of making war against the ideal.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (WWh8n)

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That plus Hitler became too toxic even for them. Publicly promoting genocide became a bridge too far.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2022 11:45 AM (iFTx/)

306 > There was some big university "ethicist" who said it was ethical to kill little ones up to the age of two

Mapes and Cicero are right. Peter Singer.

Side issue: in my experience, "ethicists" are just about as stupid and evil as "futurists" (the pundit type "futurist", not the Italian art movement of the early 20th Century... that was pretty cool).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:45 AM (bW8dp)

307 He was an American First guy. He didn't support the Nazis. The people who repeat that have no idea of what they are talking about.

Lindbergh wasn't an out-and-out Nazi (though that rat bastard FDR accused him of it), but like many people of his time, he was genteely anti-semitic, which made it easier for his detractors to conflate the two.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 21, 2022 11:46 AM (2JVJo)

308 265 Back in the 80s, my hippy dippy in her fifties Aunt dropped in. Saw the gun cabinet, and was highly upset. The only MSR I had was an AR, and she wanted to throw a curse or sumptin on it. I did have (for sale at the time) a Ruger #1 Tropical Rifle, .375 H&H. She thought that was a piece of art. Same kind of people who think Bambi needs body armor if you hunt with a MSR.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 21, 2022 11:46 AM (lz5hY)

309 It existed in antiquity.
Posted by: m at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (VnUSN)

Abortion has existed since antiquity. But by "invented", I am sure that Sponge is referring to its legalization and popularization by the like of Sanger.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2022 11:46 AM (eYiWb)

310 He wasn't done. Next day, walking on the beach, couple wanted a picture of their toddler girl with creepy Joe. Crazy right. Well, the littler girl didn't want to but creepy Joe grabbed her and wouldn't let go.
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I'm beginning to think that little Naomi Biden, who died in the car crash with her mom, was probably the luckiest member of that degenerate family.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at June 21, 2022 11:46 AM (MvHI3)

311 Peter Singer was also a vegan and big animal'rights advocate.

I once had a girlfriend who asked me to stop eating meat until after I had read Singer's animal rights manifesto. I read the thing on one day, then celebrated with a bucket of KFC. It was a doomed relationship.

Posted by: Toad-O at June 21, 2022 11:46 AM (cct0t)

312 Ukraine military and Zelenskyy begin rounding up members of the opposing parties, common citizens that have been critical of Ukrainian policy or supportive of Putin in social media posts.

They've also banned the political parties representing Russian-speaking Ukrainians (including the second biggest political party in Ukraine), announced that from now on the sole language of instruction in schools will be Ukrainian (even in entirely Russian-speaking areas), banned the study of Russian literature in schools (no more War and Peace), banned the playing of Russian music in public, and banned the translation of any book into Russian.

This is how they reward Russian-speaking Ukrainians for their loyalty to the state.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at June 21, 2022 11:46 AM (I2/tG)

313 When you think about it, Juneteenth is really a celebration of the inadequacies of the USPS.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 21, 2022 11:46 AM (kf6Ak)

314 34 I filled up my F-150 this morning $142.

Posted by: Archer at June 21, 2022 11:06 AM (gmo/4)

Having been a driver in the Army, I tend to top off anytime I'm near home/end of day's driving and am at 3/4 tank or less. You always parked in the motor pool with a full tank.

In a time of daily rising fuel prices, it helps a smidge.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf, still stuck in his misspent youth at June 21, 2022 11:47 AM (8C7+r)

315 98 Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.
Posted by: BignJames
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Actual empirical data indicates that people act otherwise with savings during bad economic times. They conserve wealth by keeping cash, investing in safe harbors, and generally keep expenditures the same or even reduce them. They make do as most people rely on employment for their cash and uncertain times mean unemployment will increase.

The exception here is the fabulously rich but their conspicuous consumption is not enough to move the needle.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:47 AM (xA2KX)

316 Somehow I doubt a SCOTUS ruling, either way, on Roe/Dobbs is going to calm the ongoing debate on this. It's a topic long due to be retired, IMO.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2022 11:47 AM (BFigT)

317 Charles Lindbergh trashed his own reputation by supporting the Nazis.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 21, 2022
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He didn't support the Nazis. He didn't believe we should get involved in another European war.
Posted by: WiNO at June 21, 2022

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That's what I thought. Though Philip Roth used the notion that CL was anti-Semitic and pro-Fascist as the springboard for his alternate-history novel The Plot Against America.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:47 AM (txdEq)

318 It's not that NS isn't sufficiently socialistic, it's that it is more pragmatic and realistic.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 11:42 AM (krQz2)
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It's philosophically degenerate. It's pragmatism is what makes it work better than Marxism, but it sticks in the craw of the true Marxists. Marx was a fool and his philosophy was stupid at every level. The fascists sort of demonstrated that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:47 AM (WWh8n)

319 If Roe is overturned, I fully expect my asshole governor to set a land speed record rushing to the microphones to declare MA an abortion sanctuary state.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 21, 2022 11:38 AM (2JVJo)

Up until this year, NH had unrestricted abortions. The Republican controlled House and Senate were able to tighten it up. But NH Gov. Sununu is pro-choice and won't sign anything more that would restrict abortion.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 21, 2022 11:47 AM (N39Ws)

320 Lindberg wasn't alone in his isolationism. He had the majority of Americans with him on that. Then the Japanese changed everybody's mind. The fucked up in the worst way. Didn't declare war, didn't get the carriers, didn't get the fuel tanks and repair facilities. The whole mission was called victory but in fact was a colossal fuck up. A disaster in fact. God was with us on that one.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:48 AM (QSjkU)

321 TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven

It matters more than ever. The acts of defiance is to ensure there is inertia in governance. Like Cromwell left, and the monarchy restored.

We want such dissatisfaction to bend the criminals actions. Local levels is the the start. We need to out think bad policy, and keep the pressure on.

A OPSEC Brute Squad would help make restoration faster, which in why Google, Facebook, and the Feds want a total panopticon society.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:48 AM (u82oZ)

322 Pssst wanna hear a sec t? Roe v wade going away won't change anything. Womynses will still get abortions just like they always have. It is silly how both sides are unaware of this.

What will dry up however are politucal donations to candidates who promise to either destroy or protect Roe.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 21, 2022 11:48 AM (3vQN0)

323 Zelensky is rounding up members of the opposition party? No wonder our political masters are supporting Ukraine. They see Ukraine as a model worth emulating.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:48 AM (5pTK/)

324 In a time of daily rising fuel prices, it helps a smidge.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf
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It is also better for your fuel pump longevity as the fuel acts as a heat sink for it. Also, tanks over time collect crud at the bottom and it is best not to run that through your filters and fuel lines.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:48 AM (xA2KX)

325 316 Somehow I doubt a SCOTUS ruling, either way, on Roe/Dobbs is going to calm the ongoing debate on this. It's a topic long due to be retired, IMO.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 21, 2022 11:47 AM (BFigT)

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The big reason it's been such a huge thing at the federal level for so long is specifically because it was a SCOTUS created law. There was no way to directly address the issue through statute. It was just the ever-present fight of "vote Republican to get justices who might overturn Roe if they get the right case."

Moving it back to the states will completely reframe the fight. It will simply stop being a federal issue. It will move the fights to the state level. This doesn't negate the fight, but it moves it into a forum that won't get the same kind of activist and media attention.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

326 Baris had Trump winning AZ and PA by 2 points, and winning WI by 1 point.

Even with those states officially being "won" by Biden, he was still closest of all the pollsters. ABC final poll in WI was Biden +8.

And I think his polls in those states was dead on, like his poll in FL was.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 21, 2022 11:49 AM (5p7BC)

327 This sun-kissed blonde has reached the conclusion that anyone with "ethicist" in his job title is likely to be an evil monster:
https://is.gd/4iqH5P
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (WWh8n)

I wouldn't mind if her womb became the graveyard for my dead baby.

Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2022 11:49 AM (+0Lgo)

328 > A disaster in fact.

It would have been much, much worse for us if Yamamoto had been fully in charge, rather than taking his ultimate orders from a bunch of Army guys whose only expertise was in abusing Chinese and Korean peasants.

But then, maybe Yamamoto wouldn't have started the war in the first place.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:50 AM (bW8dp)

329 Xipe Totec

Plus all the ships were sunk in harbor. If we had sortied, we would have lost them in deep water, with many thousands more in casualties.

The crew not killed at Pearl Harbor were the basis for an amazing expansion in US Navy's size. Every one of them was valuable.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:50 AM (u82oZ)

330 Cocaine is illegal and nobody uses cocaine. So it then stands to reason if Alabama or Louisiana makes abortion illegal, nobody in those states will have one.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 21, 2022 11:50 AM (3vQN0)

331 It's philosophically degenerate. It's pragmatism is what makes it work better than Marxism, but it sticks in the craw of the true Marxists. Marx was a fool and his philosophy was stupid at every level. The fascists sort of demonstrated that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix
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That pretty much goes for any philosophy that requires people in general to act differently than people have since civilization has emerged. Utopian dreams founder on individual human behavior whether from the right or the left.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:50 AM (xA2KX)

332 was willing to meet with Hitler in the years before Pearl Harbor -- not that he actively *supported* the Nazi regime? He certainly lent his all to the war effort after PH, didn't he?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

He reviewed the German planes, and when he came back to the US, helped develop strategies based on their strengths and weaknesses. He also did testing on fuel ratios to give American pilots in the Pacific greater range. I think he was a serious isolationist, who helped when he saw the war was inevitable.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 21, 2022 11:50 AM (lTGtQ)

333 Though Philip Roth used the notion that CL was anti-Semitic and pro-Fascist as the springboard for his alternate-history novel The Plot Against America.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022

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And a further comment: TPAA has an interesting idea, but the execution is poor and Roth's imagination fails him near the end. That sort of thing often happens to a "literary" author when he tries a genre piece in SF or mystery or Western. He gets some of the trappings right, but then something goes wrong.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (txdEq)

334 But then, maybe Yamamoto wouldn't have started the war in the first place.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:50 AM (bW8dp)
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It was inevitable. Eventually, the Empire needed the Philippines for its resources. Pearl Harbor might not have happened, but war in the Pacific would have, one way or another.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (WWh8n)

335 I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper can do this, because CBD likes her.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (u82oZ)

336 That's what I thought. Though Philip Roth used the notion that CL was anti-Semitic and pro-Fascist as the springboard for his alternate-history novel The Plot Against America.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:47 AM (txdEq)

Oh, that idea comes from his Des Moines speech. He mentioned three groups who were agitating for the US to get into the war, the British, American Jews, and the FDR admin. If you read the speech, he doesn't say anything anti-semitic. He points out their prosecution by Germany. He highlights that they have legitimate reasons for wanting the US to intervene. He simply states that their interests and reasons do not override the national interest to stay out of the war.

Posted by: WiNO at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (EpDzw)

337 334 But then, maybe Yamamoto wouldn't have started the war in the first place.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:50 AM (bW8dp)
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It was inevitable. Eventually, the Empire needed the Philippines for its resources. Pearl Harbor might not have happened, but war in the Pacific would have, one way or another.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (WWh8n)

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They always could have chosen to stop empire building.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)

338 Zelensky is rounding up members of the opposition party? No wonder our political masters are supporting Ukraine. They see Ukraine as a model worth emulating.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:48 AM (5pTK/)
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It's a bold and energetic feat!

Posted by: American Progressives at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (krQz2)

339 With CBD on vacation, I was asked to fill in for him this week.

Its a TRICK ! So he can catch us violating the 100 comment rule !

Posted by: JT at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (arJlL)

340 He reviewed the German planes, and when he came back to the US, helped develop strategies based on their strengths and weaknesses. He also did testing on fuel ratios to give American pilots in the Pacific greater range. I think he was a serious isolationist, who helped when he saw the war was inevitable.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 21, 2022 11:50 AM (lTGtQ)
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Sounds like Lindbergh and Butler were of like mind.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:52 AM (5pTK/)

341 They always could have chosen to stop empire building.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)
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This is not the way of empire.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:52 AM (WWh8n)

342 >>> (much to the chagrin of the GOPe)

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That small parenthetical phrase speaks volumes about our 'representation'.

Posted by: 496 at June 21, 2022 11:52 AM (VJsqe)

343 I wouldn't mind if her womb became the graveyard for my dead baby.
Posted by: Robert at June 21, 2022 11:49 AM (+0Lgo)

Ewwww.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2022 11:53 AM (FZ2cV)

344 Baris had Trump winning AZ and PA by 2 points, and winning WI by 1 point.

Even with those states officially being "won" by Biden, he was still closest of all the pollsters. ABC final poll in WI was Biden +8.

And I think his polls in those states was dead on, like his poll in FL was.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 21, 2022 11:49 AM (5p7BC)

Great poll and great analysis. Let's pray for our Justices, especially Alito and Thomas!

Posted by: LASue at June 21, 2022 11:53 AM (Ed8Zd)

345
California and Maryland already have laws waiting to be passed which will "decriminalize" infanticide up to 28 days after birth.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper

And right there is a prime example of why public sentiment against abortion has turned. The death cultists want to be freed to murder at will, providing that they are the ones choosing the victims "for the good of the whole".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at June 21, 2022 11:53 AM (pNxlR)

346 f you read the speech, he doesn't say anything anti-semitic. He points out their prosecution by Germany.

Posted by: WiNO at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (EpDzw)
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You know, it really wouldn't surprise me if the progs got this one wrong as well. They've "done the nose" when they can't make a direct argument.

Posted by: American Progressives at June 21, 2022 11:53 AM (krQz2)

347 But then, maybe Yamamoto wouldn't have started the war in the first place.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:50 AM (bW8dp)

Yes, Yamamoto knew the war was lost after Midway. Midway was his last chance. Once again, God was with us.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 11:54 AM (QSjkU)

348 327 This sun-kissed blonde has reached the conclusion that anyone with "ethicist" in his job title is likely to be an evil monster:
https://is.gd/4iqH5P
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:30 AM (WWh8n)

There's mosquito bites in her future.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at June 21, 2022 11:54 AM (eGTCV)

349 Lindbergh wasn't an out-and-out Nazi (though that rat bastard FDR accused him of it),

Posted by: Mary Poppins

There is a good book on that, IIRC Lindbergh vs Roosevelt.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 21, 2022 11:54 AM (lTGtQ)

350 That's what I thought. Though Philip Roth used the notion that CL was anti-Semitic and pro-Fascist as the springboard for his alternate-history novel The Plot Against America.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022
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Oh, that idea comes from his Des Moines speech. He mentioned three groups who were agitating for the US to get into the war, the British, American Jews, and the FDR admin. If you read the speech, he doesn't say anything anti-semitic. He points out their prosecution by Germany. He highlights that they have legitimate reasons for wanting the US to intervene. He simply states that their interests and reasons do not override the national interest to stay out of the war.
Posted by: WiNO at June 21, 2022

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Seems like the press were just as much the lying scum in 1940 or whenever as they are now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:54 AM (txdEq)

351 "I tend to top off anytime I'm near home/end of day's driving and am at 3/4 tank or less."

Yes, keep it full in case of emergency.

Posted by: gp Is Moving Toward An Attempted Controlled Unwind Position at June 21, 2022 11:54 AM (qpX6U)

352 They always could have chosen to stop empire building.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)

Sure and know that you are simply a vassal of the US whenever you did something the US didn't like. That was a pill they couldn't swallow.

Posted by: WiNO at June 21, 2022 11:54 AM (EpDzw)

353 It was inevitable. Eventually, the Empire needed the Philippines for its resources. Pearl Harbor might not have happened, but war in the Pacific would have, one way or another.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (WWh8n)

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They always could have chosen to stop empire building.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)
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The Japanese were the original White Supremacists.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at June 21, 2022 11:54 AM (lb+Sl)

354 And right there is a prime example of why public sentiment against abortion has turned. The death cultists want to be freed to murder at will, providing that they are the ones choosing the victims "for the good of the whole".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at June 21, 2022 11:53 AM (pNxlR)
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The death cultists not only want the ability to kill babies, they also plan to move forward with killing off the elderly.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 11:54 AM (5pTK/)

355 Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) & Rodrigo Borgia

The inner circle of Japanese leadership knew that war with the US was a losing effort.

But they could not leave China, as they had lost control of the relatively junior officers fighting there.

They chose very poorly.

Ben Bova wrote a good alternate time travel story about that. Yamamoto was brought to the future, taught all about the war and the aftermath, and sent back in time.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:55 AM (u82oZ)

356 351 Every 100 miles give or take.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 21, 2022 11:55 AM (lz5hY)

357 Maybe OT (but maybe not), the 7:30 a.m. TLM was absolutely packed on Sunday.

Posted by: LASue at June 21, 2022 11:55 AM (Ed8Zd)

358 If the pro-life community was smart, they'd make a stand where you have an overwhelming consensus (even among most Democrats) on the later term abortions and then ratchet down after achieving victory. Make Planned Parenthood types looks like the ghouls they are to try and defend it.

Posted by: Blago at June 21, 2022 11:55 AM (CLrvk)

359 330

Well, we already have an abortion cartel, but I don't think they will be smuggling truckloads of abortions up from Mexico.

Posted by: Toad-O at June 21, 2022 11:55 AM (cct0t)

360 Big Chicken
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

Harelip !

Posted by: JT at June 21, 2022 11:56 AM (arJlL)

361 Hopefully, Roe V. Wade is overturned and this will begin the blue states going their own way and the Red States going their own way.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 21, 2022 11:56 AM (pbYrN)

362 361 Hopefully, Roe V. Wade is overturned and this will begin the blue states going their own way and the Red States going their own way.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 21, 2022 11:56 AM (pbYrN)

They sure are leaving the decision till the last minute

Posted by: It's me donna at June 21, 2022 11:57 AM (bs+z0)

363 Big Chicken
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
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Fuck Big Chicken!

Posted by: American Progressives at June 21, 2022 11:57 AM (krQz2)

364 361 Hopefully, Roe V. Wade is overturned and this will begin the blue states going their own way and the Red States going their own way.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 21, 2022 11:56 AM (pbYrN)
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'tis a consummation devoutly to be wish'd

Posted by: 496 at June 21, 2022 11:57 AM (VJsqe)

365 Actually, dentists can legally use liquid cocaine. It's the only anesthetic that works for some people.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at June 21, 2022 11:57 AM (5HBd1)

366 Cocaine is illegal and nobody uses cocaine. So it then stands to reason if Alabama or Louisiana makes abortion illegal, nobody in those states will have one.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 21, 2022 11:50 AM (3vQN0)

Well, I expect a whole lot fewer women will have them, because they can't be assed to get on a bus or plane to go to a State that permits it. We ain't talking Rhodes Scholars here.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2022 11:57 AM (eYiWb)

367 The inner circle of Japanese leadership knew that war with the US was a losing effort.

But they could not leave China, as they had lost control of the relatively junior officers fighting there.

They chose very poorly. . . .

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022

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Which Japanese statesman was it who had attended school in America, understood much about the resolve and the industrial might of Americans, and said sadly, "We have awakened a sleeping giant"?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 11:58 AM (txdEq)

368 The inner circle of Japanese leadership knew that war with the US was a losing effort.

But they could not leave China, as they had lost control of the relatively junior officers fighting there. ...
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:55 AM (u82oZ)
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Korea posed problems, too. The empire was being built in China and Korea and Manchuria, while the Navy was out gathering resources. Japan's only move would have been a negotiated peace, which they could have gotten at the time. We and the USSR would probably have accepted permanent integration of Korea and Manchuria in exchange for a withdrawal from greater China and no further Pacific expansion.

But they viewed it as an all-or-nothing issue (and I can even sort of understand why, given their motivations) and so took the road they took.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:58 AM (WWh8n)

369 He is a nerdy ginger with a whiny voice, lol.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 21, 2022 11:33 AM (ufFY

Just Harry has a Youtube channel?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at June 21, 2022 11:58 AM (zhLdt)

370 And they have already been killing the elderly. Why do you think they put people infected with Covid in nursing homes? I expect that we will see more die off, due to rising inflation and fixed incomes, plus higher energy costs.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at June 21, 2022 11:58 AM (5HBd1)

371 Xipe Totec

I've gakmed the Battle of idway for decades. Very hard for the US to win.

In the real event, it hinged on an Auxiliaries Officer on the IJN CA Tone. He and his division could not get a catapult to work for a while. This one catapult was to launch the critical scout plane.

If the US fleet had been spotted by that scout plane earlier (if it launched on time), we would have lost, and lost big.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:58 AM (u82oZ)

372 Lindbergh was a non-interventionist.

That was a sensible view, if not a practical one. He visited Germany at the request of FDR, or maybe the state department. In effect, he was a spy. The Nazis rolled out the red carpet for him, and showed him everything they were doing aviation wise.

Then the leftists trashed him. "Well it worked, didn't it?"

Posted by: Common Tater at June 21, 2022 11:58 AM (F0yZs)

373 I found a great book, Resurrection, that details the raising of almost all of the Pearl Harbor battleships. All but the Arizona, Utah, and Oklahoma went back into service, and when the center force of the Japanese navy tried to enter Surigao Strait, they were met by the Pearl Harbor battleships, who had crossed their T.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 21, 2022 11:59 AM (lTGtQ)

374 Wolfus Aurelius

That was ADM Yamamoto. He knew.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:59 AM (u82oZ)

375 124 Quick, someone say, "Sous Vide," to see if CBD is lurking.

Posted by: davidt at June 21, 2022 11:18 AM (oTZbj)
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No, someone already 'Maple Syruped' and nothing happened - see #12.

Posted by: Ciampino at June 21, 2022 11:59 AM (qfLjt)

376 I think the big cheat will be in again.

Posted by: MAC V SOG
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Doesn't work well outside of cities which means that House district elections are by and large unaffected by maximizing cheating in big cities. The risk for the left is to play that card again can result in a complete collapse with strict laws being set. Even a majority of Dem voters get upset if their vote is worth nothing (see Voter ID polling).

We used to have robust election cheating in US elections in both rural and urban districts--it faded away in many rural areas but was constricted by laws from 1900-1920 in urban areas. Those are the laws being ignored or subverted by urban areas today.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 11:59 AM (xA2KX)

377 The inner circle of Japanese leadership knew that war with the US was a losing effort.

But they could not leave China, as they had lost control of the relatively junior officers fighting there.

They chose very poorly.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:55 AM (u82oZ)

They went with their Russo-Japanese war strategy. They couldn't beat the Russians. They could do enough damage to break their will to fight. That was the same plan with the US.

What would have happened had Midway been a draw, the invasion at Port Moresby gone forward, and the Solomons been a loss?

Posted by: WiNO at June 21, 2022 12:00 PM (EpDzw)

378 341 They always could have chosen to stop empire building.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)
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This is not the way of empire.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:52 AM (WWh8n)

___________________________________

Says who? I want my sammich!

-- Jussie Smollet

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2022 12:00 PM (iFTx/)

379 And they have already been killing the elderly. Why do you think they put people infected with Covid in nursing homes? I expect that we will see more die off, due to rising inflation and fixed incomes, plus higher energy costs.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at June 21, 2022 11:58 AM (5HBd1)
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I know. That's why it's painful to watch the asshats like the "prof" yesterday try to dunk on America.

Yeah, okay, Canada wasn't trying to kill off thousands of its elderly. But New York and New Jersey, the states with the death rates that could not be caught, were.

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 12:00 PM (krQz2)

380 Actually, dentists can legally use liquid cocaine. It's the only anesthetic that works for some people.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at June 21, 2022 11:57 AM (5HBd1)

Time for my fourth daily cleaning and checkup!

Posted by: zombie Carrie Fisher at June 21, 2022 12:00 PM (h5TKJ)

381 Killing the elderly is a plus for Democrats in 2 ways, you get rid of them off the SS rolls, and you can keep them voting until they are 150.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 12:01 PM (QSjkU)

382 Great presentation Dave
The Bolsheviks always have made it sound they are the majority in Russia in 1917 and the US in the last couple decade's

Posted by: Skip's phone at June 21, 2022 12:01 PM (yFN9y)

383 This modestly dressed blonde is looking very pensive today when she considers how abortion has taken the life of so many millions of babies, particularly in the AA community. She spends some of her free time as a volunteer in a pro life center as her conservative mother also does:

https://tinyurl.com/nhzr6cb5

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2022 12:02 PM (FZ2cV)

384 Well, I expect a whole lot fewer women will have them, because they can't be assed to get on a bus or plane to go to a State that permits it. We ain't talking Rhodes Scholars here.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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My hope is maybe people are more careful and don't get into those situations in the first place. I do think abortion has made people reckless with pregnancy.

Being intellectually honest here, does society benefit from these people having children? Those mothers and their children will be taken care of by the taxpayer forever. You're easily talking about a million dollars every time they pop one out and a lifetime Dem voter. Just sayin.

Posted by: Blago at June 21, 2022 12:02 PM (CLrvk)

385 Dow is up 500+. Go figure.
Posted by: Ziba at June 21, 2022 11:25 AM (4h9M3)

Sucker bounce?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at June 21, 2022 12:03 PM (zhLdt)

386 This modestly dressed blonde is looking very pensive today when she considers how abortion has taken the life of so many millions of babies, particularly in the AA community. She spends some of her free time as a volunteer in a pro life center as her conservative mother also does:

https://tinyurl.com/nhzr6cb5
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2022

***
A graceful-looking, pretty lady.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 12:03 PM (txdEq)

387 Whie talking about Japanese officers, the actor Toshiro Mifune was one in WW2. One of his jobs was giving Kamikaze pilots their final pep talk.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 21, 2022 12:03 PM (lz5hY)

388 If Roe is repealed (I had a Leftist prof who called it the worst SCOTUS decision he ever read, as of 2000), people might rediscover federalism. Abortion will go to state legislatures and the issue will be debated there - where it should have stayed all along.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2022 12:03 PM (CdZ4i)

389 Which Japanese statesman was it who had attended school in America,

Keye Luke

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at June 21, 2022 12:03 PM (gz1VM)

390 If the US fleet had been spotted by that scout plane earlier (if it launched on time), we would have lost, and lost big.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 11:58 AM (u82oZ)

That and other unlikely events came together for us. Like I said, God was with us.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 12:03 PM (QSjkU)

391 My theory for the deaths in nursing homes with Covid was they needed to raise the deaths to use it over the whole population.

Posted by: Skip's phone at June 21, 2022 12:04 PM (yFN9y)

392 Being intellectually honest here, does society benefit from these people having children? Those mothers and their children will be taken care of by the taxpayer forever. You're easily talking about a million dollars every time they pop one out and a lifetime Dem voter. Just sayin.
Posted by: Blago at June 21, 2022 12:02 PM (CLrvk)

Well, it might greatly increase the pool of babies available for adoption.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2022 12:04 PM (eYiWb)

393 "It's the Economy, Stupid". Sagest observation by Bill Clinton.

Posted by: kraken at June 21, 2022 12:04 PM (7SQac)

394 Notsothoreau - move forward

Those 5 Democrat governors killed about 45,000 elderly to save on tax dollars. Their evil has gone unpunished, or even noted.

We are lucky IL, CA, or NY, does not go down a list of high pension dollar recipients, killing them.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 12:04 PM (u82oZ)

395 The hinge on your cars gas door.

Posted by: DaveA at June 21, 2022 12:04 PM (FhXTo)

396 I actually met Lindbergh.
I was just a kid and he was at our local airport waiting on someone to pick him up. To me he was just some old guy. I had no idea who he was. The airport manager told me to go out and say hello to that guy. So I did. We talked airplanes for about 10 minutes when his ride showed up. They told me later who he was.
Cool memory.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 21, 2022 12:04 PM (anj39)

397 from abortion to the battle of midway

how do you guys do it

Posted by: DB at June 21, 2022 12:04 PM (geLO8)

398 "Actually, dentists can legally use liquid cocaine. It's the only anesthetic that works for some people."

Can they use it on their patients too, or is it just for dentists?

Posted by: gp Is Moving Toward An Attempted Controlled Unwind Position at June 21, 2022 12:05 PM (qpX6U)

399 Doesn't work well outside of cities which means that House district elections are by and large unaffected by maximizing cheating in big cities. The risk for the left is to play that card again can result in a complete collapse with strict laws being set. Even a majority of Dem voters get upset if their vote is worth nothing (see Voter ID polling).

Posted by: whig

I wonder if breaking up electoral votes is the answer for Republicans like Nebraska does?

So let places Philadelphia and Detroit cheat all they want, it won't effect the rest of PA and MI.

Might be a smart push for Republicans.

Posted by: Blago at June 21, 2022 12:05 PM (CLrvk)

400 Thanks Dave in Fla. I appreciate the data.

Posted by: Corona Exile-Back_in_exile at June 21, 2022 12:05 PM (62BOJ)

401 If Roe is repealed (I had a Leftist prof who called it the worst SCOTUS decision he ever read, as of 2000), people might rediscover federalism. Abortion will go to state legislatures and the issue will be debated there - where it should have stayed all along.
Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2022

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Why is this concept called "federalism" when it downplays the role of the Federal government and emphasizes the role of the states?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 12:05 PM (txdEq)

402 They always could have chosen to stop empire building.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at June 21, 2022 11:51 AM (LvTSG)

Nah, wouldn't have happened.

With everybody else carving empires out of the world.

The Japanese figured they were just as justified as anyone else. Plus, resource poor.

Posted by: naturalfake at June 21, 2022 12:05 PM (5NkmN)

403 My theory for the deaths in nursing homes with Covid was they needed to raise the deaths to use it over the whole population.
Posted by: Skip's phone at June 21, 2022 12:04 PM (yFN9y)
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That is giving them way more credit for both complexity of plan and ability to execute (and secrecy) than they deserve. The reality is a lot simpler. Hospital system lobbyists wrote those EOs to get the old people and their lower reimbursement out of expensive hospitals and into cheaper, state-supported nursing homes and damn the consequences.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 12:05 PM (WWh8n)

404 "Does society benefit from these people having children?"

yes, we always benefit when we choose life. We can't know how those children will turn out. The well off have useless children too, but no one seems to be encouraging their die off.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at June 21, 2022 12:06 PM (5HBd1)

405 140 129 @tarapalmeri
DNC is slashing prices for a photo w/ Kamala Harris. Tickets for a photo with the VP at the Women's Leadership Forum started at $15,000, but it failed to sell enough tickets & is being postponed. VP's June fundraiser in Cali is charging $5,000 for a photo ...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Spring Is In the Air! at June 21, 2022 11:17 AM (FVME7)
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For that much must be "full service" photography...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 21, 2022 11:20 AM (ynpvh)
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So it's a photo with KH on her knees again?

Posted by: Ciampino at June 21, 2022 12:06 PM (qfLjt)

406 My theory for the deaths in nursing homes with Covid was they needed to raise the deaths to use it over the whole population.
Posted by: Skip's phone at June 21, 2022 12:04 PM (yFN9y)
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That sounds about as "reasonable" as any other explanation for why you put Covid-positive young people in nursing homes when we all watched how Covid swept through that nursing home in Washington like the Mask of the Red Death.

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 12:06 PM (krQz2)

407 FenelonSpoke

Classy lady >>> trashy lady. IMHO.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 12:06 PM (u82oZ)

408 This modestly dressed blonde is looking very pensive today when she considers how abortion has taken the life of so many millions of babies, particularly in the AA community. She spends some of her free time as a volunteer in a pro life center as her conservative mother also does:

https://tinyurl.com/nhzr6cb5
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2022

This reminds me of OM's Chess Thread.I miss him.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 21, 2022 12:06 PM (kf6Ak)

409 >>Why is this concept called "federalism" when it downplays the role of the Federal government and emphasizes the role of the states?

same reason you park on a driveway and drive on a parkway- English is weird

Posted by: DB at June 21, 2022 12:06 PM (geLO8)

410 373: so, I visited the Arizona Memorial and saw the remains of the Utah. What became of the Oklahoma? Scrap?

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2022 12:07 PM (CdZ4i)

411 Literally more people are killed with hands and feet than are killed with any type of rifle, "assault" or otherwise.

But we don't have a Bloomberg astroturf operation named "Everytown for Foot Safety", now, do we?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 21, 2022 11:39 AM (bW8dp)

IIRC, I saw a statistic that more people died in 2020 from "foreign object inserted into anus" then rifles - of all kinds - in the period 2015 - 2020.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at June 21, 2022 12:07 PM (zhLdt)

412 Well, it might greatly increase the pool of babies available for adoption.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I read a stat where only 4% of people put their kid up for adoption in US. So it would mean more, but I think the overwhelming majority will still not opt for that.

Posted by: Blago at June 21, 2022 12:08 PM (CLrvk)

413 Why is this concept called "federalism" when it downplays the role of the Federal government and emphasizes the role of the states?

same reason you park on a driveway and drive on a parkway- English is weird
Posted by: DB

And shit in a restroom.....

Posted by: JT at June 21, 2022 12:08 PM (arJlL)

414 CBD was on at the end of the ONT

Posted by: Skip's phone at June 21, 2022 12:08 PM (yFN9y)

415 Why is this concept called "federalism" when it downplays the role of the Federal government and emphasizes the role of the states?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 12:05 PM (txdEq)

The central government derives its name from the federation rather than the other way around. So we have largely self governing states because we are a federation, as opposed to some other structure.

Posted by: Someguy's at June 21, 2022 12:08 PM (agAQ/)

416 OM's Chess Thread.I miss him.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

As do I. What a great man.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 12:08 PM (u82oZ)

417 NaCly Dog,
I hope that you and your wife are doing better.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 12:09 PM (xA2KX)

418 The American progressives broke ranks with the Nazis only after they did the unthinkable and went to war with the USSR. The USSR - old-school international Marxism, not nationalist socialism - was the ideal. They liked Hitler well enough, even though he was in charge of a degenerate form of socialism, until he committed the unforgivable sin of making war against the ideal.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 11:34 AM (WWh8n)
______________________________
That plus Hitler became too toxic even for them. Publicly promoting genocide became a bridge too far.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 21, 2022 11:45 AM (iFTx/)

Bull Shit! The progressives obeyed the directives of the Soviet COMINTERN and became full bore Nazi Apologists after the Molotov-Ribbentrop Non-Aggression Act was signed in August 1939. August 1939, and then the war started in September 1939 when the Nazis and Soviets carved up Poland. Russia later attacked Finland and the Baltics for their "Lebensraum."

The Progressives were proudly Pro-Peace and Pro-Nazi Occupation right up until Hitler attacked Stalin's Soviet Russia. Then they overnight became Anti-Nazi.

Posted by: rd at June 21, 2022 12:09 PM (Z32m1)

419 Hey, AOP, since you're here, I've been told you might be the right guy to answer an HVAC question. Are the risks associated with blocking registers trumped-up or are they real? If it is real, does it matter which ones (e.g., beginning of the duct vs. the end, number of registers blocked, etc.)?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 12:09 PM (WWh8n)

420 Things are looking pretty bad for the Uvalde cops. At least they got home safely after their shift.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 21, 2022 12:09 PM (lz5hY)

421 Why is this concept called "federalism" when it downplays the role of the Federal government and emphasizes the role of the states?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 12:05 PM (txdEq)
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Because it re-emphasizes the concept of a confederation of supreme states. Not just a single block nation.

The opposite of "federalism" is "nationalism". It was that way when the progs started nationalizing everything in the 19th century.

By calling the central government "federal" we've reinforced the idea that it is only presiding over the coordination of a set of sovereign states.

Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 12:09 PM (krQz2)

422 Cow Demon

Still there , AFAIK.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 12:09 PM (u82oZ)

423 411

Well, colonoscopies ARE dicey.

Posted by: kraken at June 21, 2022 12:09 PM (7SQac)

424 What became of the Oklahoma? Scrap?

Posted by: Cow Demon

It was one of the last ones salvaged. They got it turned back over, patched up enough to take it back to the states, probably for scrapping, but it sank en route.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 21, 2022 12:10 PM (lTGtQ)

425 Pearl Harbor was just one of several simultaneous attacks that Japan did on Dec. 7.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 21, 2022 12:10 PM (jTmQV)

426 NaCly Dog,
I hope that you and your wife are doing better.
Posted by: whig

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at June 21, 2022 12:10 PM (arJlL)

427 367: per Keegan, IIRC it was Yamamoto who said “we can now run wild for six months.”

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2022 12:11 PM (CdZ4i)

428 The GOD of the Bible clearly states children are a blessing.

Good enough for me.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 12:11 PM (5pTK/)

429 Well, colonoscopies ARE dicey.
Posted by: kraken at June 21, 2022 12:09 PM (7SQac)

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Corny too.

Posted by: 496 at June 21, 2022 12:11 PM (VJsqe)

430 Cow Demon

I was wrong. It happens.

Sunk under tow. Location unknown.

It is USS Utah (former BB-31) that is still there.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 12:11 PM (u82oZ)

431 might greatly increase the pool of babies available for adoption

This season's fashion must have!!

Posted by: Secretary of sodomy Buttigieg at June 21, 2022 12:11 PM (gz1VM)

432 I don't expect anything to happen to those Uvalde cops. They'll transfer to a different town and that will be the end of it. Zombie leadership.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 21, 2022 12:12 PM (44ww/)

433 428 The GOD of the Bible clearly states children are a blessing.

Good enough for me.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 21, 2022 12:11 PM (5pTK/)

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They will be a blessing for red states. Blue states will continue on status quo.

Posted by: 496 at June 21, 2022 12:12 PM (VJsqe)

434
https://tinyurl.com/nhzr6cb5
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2022

Not bad, but might want to consider some curls next time she hits the gym.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 12:12 PM (Zz0t1)

435 nood

Posted by: 496 at June 21, 2022 12:13 PM (VJsqe)

436 MY BEST GUESS THAT AFTER THE ABORTION ISSUE FLOPS THAT THE BIDEN JUNTA AND DEMOCRATS WILL ACTUALLY GO ALL IN WITH A WAR WITH RUSSIA.

There will be a better than even chance that Biden and his big brain junta actually goes nuclear in that war.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 21, 2022 12:13 PM (WKPeU)

437 Modest proposal:

We know that abortions are safe and effective for everyone 6 months of age or older. We also now know that men can be birthing people.

Therefore abortions should be mandatory for all, and proof of abortion -- in the form of a QR code tattoo applied on the forearm following the procedure -- should be required for entry to all dining and entertainment establishments, and to fly on airplanes, and to buy groceries, and to attend school, and to get a job.

Your decision to have a child can have catastrophic ramifications for our entire society. Every mass shooter, every rapist, every Republican all have one thing in common -- they were all born. Abortion is therefore a moral imperative, and anyone who refuses is a selfish monster.

Posted by: Mandate Bot at June 21, 2022 12:13 PM (1dzqn)

438
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Corny too.
Posted by: 496 at June 21, 2022 12:11 PM (VJsqe)

"I don't remember eating CORN!!??"

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at June 21, 2022 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)

439 whip & JT

I get tested in a couple of hours. Tis a scratch for me. My wife is doing a tad better.

Thank you, and all the other worthy souls that wished and prayed for our health.

Right here is the best group on the Internet. Including better than the Swedish Bikini Team.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 12:14 PM (u82oZ)

440 Mr. Dave in FL,

Have you had the opportunity to look at the GA primary results?
Emerald Robinson has claimed that there was some odd results, I was wondering what you thought if it was something you looked at.
Thank you

Posted by: Inogame at June 21, 2022 12:14 PM (53oGX)

441 413 Why is this concept called "federalism" when it downplays the role of the Federal government and emphasizes the role of the states?

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Federalism is a shortened version of Confederalism. Not used much anymore because you know, the Confederacy. The Framers used it to describe the new compound republic of states and a national government. The Anti-Federalists who were in fact confederalists favored only minor tweaks to the existing Articles of Confederation and keeping the role of the national government totally separate from that of the states. In order to warrant change, those pushing the new Constitution resorted to terming their government federal--with the national government having supreme enumerated powers only and the states retaining the rest. Confederalists aka Anti Federalists argued that the new Constitution would inevitably become the federal government over all and devolve into a central government (some argued even a tyranny on par with European governments).

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 12:14 PM (xA2KX)

442 The opposite of "federalism" is "nationalism". It was that way when the progs started nationalizing everything in the 19th century.

By calling the central government "federal" we've reinforced the idea that it is only presiding over the coordination of a set of sovereign states.
Posted by: Axeman at June 21, 2022 12:09 PM (krQz2)

Nationalism is about Prussians and Bavarians being Germans or Genoese and Venetians being Italian. Bigger tribe/group. Also an argument that polities and policy should reflect these roughly country sized groups.

Posted by: Someguy's at June 21, 2022 12:14 PM (agAQ/)

443 I could never see any daylight between Hitler's socialism and Stalin's socialism. They were both totalitarian dictatorships, not really socialism at all. Hitler commanded everything like he owned it, Stalin actually owned it.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 21, 2022 12:15 PM (QSjkU)

444 The LORD made mention a lot of caring for widows and orphans, in both the Old and New Covenants. Becoming an empty nester in a matter of weeks, I'm ripe for a pivot into full time focusing on those two demographics in my community. In this screwy culture, these groups are the most oppressed.

Posted by: Miss Issippi - TRANSparent-Pronouns Who/Where at June 21, 2022 12:15 PM (sI15f)

445 Hey, AOP, since you're here, I've been told you might be the right guy to answer an HVAC question. Are the risks associated with blocking registers trumped-up or are they real? If it is real, does it matter which ones (e.g., beginning of the duct vs. the end, number of registers blocked, etc.)?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 21, 2022 12:09 PM (WWh8n)

That is completely not in my wheelhouse, Joe. I would not even hazard a guess.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 21, 2022 12:16 PM (eYiWb)

446 Does anyone ever consider the probability that if abortion isn't available after say 10 weeks then those people getting them later.....oh, fet them earlier or learn to use birth control? Limiting when you can get one doesn't mean that all those babies are born. Or is that attributing a clue to womyn they can't possess?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 21, 2022 12:16 PM (HMTci)

447 439 NaCly Dog,
One piece of advice from having Covid twice, start taking you BP daily and take it very easy on any physical exertion. This virus does strange things to the circulatory system (and is probably why the vaxx does so as well) because of the body's use of ACE2 receptor sites.

Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 12:17 PM (xA2KX)

448 Noodus ace

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 21, 2022 12:17 PM (txdEq)

449 Right here is the best group on the Internet. Including better than the Swedish Bikini Team.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at June 21, 2022 12:14 PM (u82oZ)

What happened? Feverish? Concussion? Prayers up for you! :-)

Posted by: Iris at June 21, 2022 12:17 PM (NaH5I)

450 Americans are spending money like crazy despite high prices on gas and other items. This means the inflation isn't normal. It's caused by corporate price gouging and NOT government spending. Oil companies are making record profits, and all corporations are raising prices to make up for lost income from the pandemic. The economy is roaring, and there will be no recession. Lol dumb magats..

Posted by: Sid at June 21, 2022 12:17 PM (N90z1)

451 Posted by: whig at June 21, 2022 12:14 PM (xA2KX)

Ah. thanks for explaining that. I often wondered as well.

A lot of smart folks on this here site.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at June 21, 2022 12:18 PM (xPJvm)

452 >>>Literally more people are killed with hands and feet than are killed with any type of rifle, "assault" or otherwise.

But we don't have a Bloomberg astroturf operation named "Everytown for Foot Safety", now, do we?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

>Simple Joe Biden's feet tried to kill him with a bicycle. Made him look like a damn foot first try.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 21, 2022 12:18 PM (0ocXn)

453
Big Chicken
Posted by: Mike Hammer

Pick Me Up

https://youtu.be/558mDXUoHtM

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 21, 2022 12:18 PM (63Dwl)

454 Special kind of stupid, ain't you sid.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trailer Trash Adjacent at June 21, 2022 12:18 PM (xPJvm)

455 /sock

Posted by: Oddbob at June 21, 2022 12:19 PM (nfrXX)

456 foot=fool

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 21, 2022 12:20 PM (0ocXn)

457 330 Cocaine is illegal and nobody uses cocaine. So it then stands to reason if Alabama or Louisiana makes abortion illegal, nobody in those states will have one.
___________

It is going to be interesting, from a social policy point of view, to see how people respond to the various new state laws.

We have long known that people respond to incentives. Federal lawmakers made abortion "free" for low-income women, and they responded by using it liberally, as a type of after-the-fact birth control method.

If Dobbs holds up and abortion regulation gets returned to the states, we're going to be able to see how women respond to a different set of incentives. For example, in states where women have to go out of state for an abortion after 12 weeks, there will likely be an uptick in birth control usage and probably also in the use of home pregnancy tests, combined with a decrease in the number of abortions. In states where abortion is not limited in any way and is funded by the state, we will likely see an increase in abortions.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at June 21, 2022 12:20 PM (MvHI3)

458 436 MY BEST GUESS THAT AFTER THE ABORTION ISSUE FLOPS THAT THE BIDEN JUNTA AND DEMOCRATS WILL ACTUALLY GO ALL IN WITH A WAR WITH RUSSIA.

There will be a better than even chance that Biden and his big brain junta actually goes nuclear in that war.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 21, 2022 12:13 PM (WKPeU)

Given Lithuania's recently instituted blockade of Russian goods transported via rail at the behest of the EU (in violation of a decades-old-treaty between the two countries) the chances of nukes flying have gone up considerably.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik [DHS Verdict: MDM] at June 21, 2022 12:20 PM (DTX3h)

459 We should picture ourselves as we really are, because, you know, that's how we really are. Now, if you would like to picture yourself with me, as we really are, then please do so. Just imagine the satisfaction of a picture of you handing me a check for $5,000.00.

Posted by: Kamala at June 21, 2022 12:26 PM (sm7HI)

460 74 Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.
Posted by: BignJames at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (AwYPR)

And in six months they will complain that Americans aren't saving enough.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 21, 2022 12:26 PM (O6NhO)

461 249: I bet Cornyn doesn’t run in 2026 and just stays in DC. He shoulda quit in 2020. He’s been in the game too long.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2022 12:26 PM (CdZ4i)

462 Open Flogger
How did your fav pollster do predicting Trump losing in 2020
Does his prediction show that he also thought that the election was not STOLEN?

Posted by: Steve at June 21, 2022 12:26 PM (EjGSp)

463 450: economic illiterates use terms like “price gouging”. Res tantum valet quantum vendi potest.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2022 12:29 PM (CdZ4i)

464 In the Bible the penalty for causing an abortion/miscarriage is 2 shekels.
The penalty for murder is death
Apparently "they" did not consider a fetus to be human until after the first breath, the quickening.

Posted by: Steve at June 21, 2022 12:32 PM (EjGSp)

465 399 Doesn't work well outside of cities which means that House district elections are by and large unaffected by maximizing cheating in big cities. The risk for the left is to play that card again can result in a complete collapse with strict laws being set. Even a majority of Dem voters get upset if their vote is worth nothing (see Voter ID polling).

Posted by: whig

It’s about the senate races where cheating will be problematic in the extreme especially in Pa and Ga.

Posted by: 7man at June 21, 2022 12:32 PM (qwO6y)

466 430: yep, I saw the Utah on my visit to Pearl in 2005.

Posted by: Cow Demon at June 21, 2022 12:32 PM (CdZ4i)

467 Re: Phillip K. Dick story - '

Is that the one framed as a letter from one of the parents to the grandparents, saying that they were taking their child to be put down because it was too much trouble at this point in their lives, and that the grandparents shouldn't worry, because they will try again i a couple of years when their lives settle down?

Chilling.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 21, 2022 12:42 PM (O6NhO)

468 Posted by: Steve at June 21, 2022 12:32 PM (EjGSp)

So you're suggesting that babies should be killed until they actually exit the birth canal? Maybe you should read some Orthodox rabbis opposed to abortion or at least after the first trimester. Are you religious or are you one of those non religious leftists who use the Bible to cudgel people who don't agree with your political POV.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 21, 2022 12:53 PM (FZ2cV)

469 Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.

We are currently at the lowest levels of savings rate since the shit hit the fan in 2008 and close to the all time low in 2005.

The savings rate were very high during covid but that's going to get eaten up in no time with bidenflation and $100+ fillups.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PSAVERT

Posted by: doesky2 at June 21, 2022 01:18 PM (AHHU1)

470 Blocking ducts reduces coil airflow which can result in the coil freezing up which is bad for the compressor. Dirty air filter and or dirty coil will cause the same. Freezup means oil gets diluted with refrigerant and damages bearings.

Posted by: Lord Percy at June 21, 2022 01:18 PM (iSbhf)

471 SCOTUS might just add new opinion days to their calendar. They added today and Thursday last week, IIRC. They have 13 more opinions to go, and have been doing about 5 per opinion day.

Posted by: Baldy at June 21, 2022 01:52 PM (ODaya)

472 Late to the thread, but a couple of factors have led me from being someone ambivalent about abortion to being absolutely opposed:

1) The Democrats and the other lefties are fvkcing ghouls that delight in killing babies up to the moment of birth.
2) As a cradle-Catholic that did not think deeply about the Church teachings, I had a reversion and am now a lay Dominican: the Church teaches that a human is two beings physical and spiritual, and a human being is created at the moment of conception.
3) This led me to understand that you don't solve social problems (such as poverty) or crimes (such as incest) by killing babies

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at June 21, 2022 02:46 PM (pJWtt)

473 Yellen said (paraphrasing) Americans have a huge stockpile of savings coming out of the pandemic, which will forestall a recession.
Posted by: BignJames at June 21, 2022 11:11 AM (AwYPR)

Yeah, trust the plan.

/sarc

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at June 21, 2022 03:28 PM (Mzdiz)

474 Liberal Bumper Stickers SAVE THE POAR BEARS,KEEP ABORTION LEGAL

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