Notes of a Meeting Between FBI and DOJ Reveal FBI Repeatedly Lying to Justify Trump Investigation<br>Hillary Clinton's Toady Robbie Mook Admits Hilary Clinton Approved the Alfa Bank Hoax, But Claims She Didn't Order Sussman to Take it to the FBI

Notes of a Meeting Between FBI and DOJ Reveal FBI Repeatedly Lying to Justify Trump Investigation
Hillary Clinton's Toady Robbie Mook Admits Hilary Clinton Approved the Alfa Bank Hoax, But Claims She Didn't Order Sussman to Take it to the FBI

Sussman revealed them as part of his defense, having gotten them via subpoena from Durham.

The notes reveal a pattern of repeated lies and omissions by FBI leadership to DOJ officials that concealed the dramatic deterioration of the predicate for the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. As the predication deteriorated, so too was the purported justification for Comey's public reveal of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.
The significance of the FBI's lies was accentuated this week at Sussmann's trial when Scott Hellman, an FBI cyber analyst, testified that he knew right away in September 2016 that Sussmann's data did not suggest any covert communications between Trump and Russia. Hellman added that he wondered if the person who put together the data was suffering from a mental disability.
Hellman's testimony is the clearest evidence yet that the FBI knew from the start that one of the two major components of the Trump Russia collusion narrative -- the Alfa Bank data -- was false. As the March 6 notes show, they concealed this fact from their DOJ superiors.
The other major component of the investigation was the Steele dossier. The FBI knew from a January 2017 interview of Igor Danchenko, Christopher Steele's "Primary Sub-Source" through whom all the allegations in the Steele dossier were originated or channeled, that the dossier too was false.

I'll refer you to the Federalist for details about this. In short, the Steele Dossier lied about having Sergei Mllian as a source, instead relying on a Democrat-connected, Hillary-supporting US resident named Igor Danchenoko for rumors and made-up "tips."

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The FBI appears to have concealed these matters from the DOJ. In fact, it does not appear from the March 6 notes that the FBI ever mentioned Danchenko. Despite Danchenko's disavowal of the dossier as of March 6, it remained as the main component of the overall Crossfire Hurricane investigation, including being the basis of two Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants against Trump campaign aide Carter Page.
The March 6 notes also reveal that FBI leadership told DOJ officials that the Page FISA application had been "fruitful" even though it had turned up nothing of significance. Page was never charged with, or even accused of, any offense and is now suing the DOJ for damages.
FBI leadership also pushed the narrative on their DOJ counterparts that the dossier was "CROWN reporting," implying that the dossier was an official United Kingdom intelligence product when it was actually made-up stories and gossip and paid for by the Clinton campaign -- a fact the FBI knew from their Danchenko interview.

The FBI also tried to claim that this "CROWN reporting" connected Trump to some windfall in "Russian energy stocks." This was another lie.

Read the article for further lies.

This emergency meeting was precipitated by Trump's tweet in which he revealed that he knew that Obama's minions were wiretapping him at Trump hotel.

They wanted to figure out how much Trump knew about their bogus probe, and what to do next.

In reality, Trump's tweet probably just restated what Levin had said. But the fact that the FBI did not know how much Trump knew meant FBI leadership had a choice to make. They could either downplay the investigation with a view to wrapping it up or they could double down even though they had not found any incriminating evidence.
They chose to double down, with Comey going on offense in the immediate aftermath of the March 6 meeting. Aside from giving narrative-shaping briefings to congressional leaders, Comey publicly disclosed the existence of the Trump Russia investigation, ensuring a media frenzy. That frenzy ultimately led to the appointment of Mueller on May 17, 2017.
While we have become accustomed to false statements charges being filed against Trump associates such as Roger Stone, Papadopoulos, and Michael Flynn, those same charges are also applicable to false statements or concealment of material facts by FBI officials to DOJ officials in the conduct of their supervision of FBI investigations.
It is perplexing that no one within the FBI has been held accountable for the many lies told at the March 6 meeting. This fact is all the more perplexing as it was Durham who originally turned over the March 6 notes to Sussmann's defense team.

The article notes that William Barr declined to prosecute Andrew McCabe for lying in an official investigation.

It notes now that these notes -- which show further FBI lying, and calculated, premeditated, coordinated lying intended to corruptly influence the DOJ into starting an unwarranted investigation -- were concealed from the public until just now, after the five-year statute of limitations for obstruction of justice/lying to federal investigators had run out.

The question is why the DOJ -- and Durham in particular -- gave the FBI a free pass. The uncomfortable answer may be that, as has been suspected for a while, Durham's authority is effectively limited to private actors such as Sussmann and Danchenko and does not extend to public officials such as McCabe and Strzok.

I can think of a more uncomfortable answer: The Guild protects the Guild.

The "agents of Justice" will never face Justice themselves. Never.

Meanwhile, in the Michael Sussman trial, Hillary Clinton campaign manager and Weedy Gollum Robbie Mook admitted-- bragged, really -- that Hillary Clinton approved the "Alfa Bank" hoax story.

Despite her campaign not having confidence that her lies were true.

Via Fox:

Former Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook testified Friday that then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton approved the dissemination of materials alleging a covert communications channel between the Trump Organization and Russia's Alfa Bank to the media, despite campaign officials not being "totally confident" in the legitimacy of the data.
Former FBI General Counsel James Baker testified Thursday that the bureau investigated the data alleging a Trump connection to the Kremlin-linked bank, and found that "there was nothing there."

Mook was called to the stand for testimony by Michael Sussmann's defense Friday.
During cross-examination by government prosecutor Andrew DeFillippis Friday, Mook was asked about the campaign's understanding of the Alfa Bank allegations against Trump and whether they planned to release the data to the media....
He also said he discussed whether to give the information to a reporter with senior campaign officials, including campaign chairman John Podesta, senior policy advisor, now White House National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, and communications director Jennifer Palmieri.
"I discussed it with Hillary as well," Mook said.
"I don't remember the substance of the conversation, but notionally, the discussion was, hey, we have this and we want to share it with a reporter," Mook said.
The government asked Mook if Clinton approved "the dissemination" of the data to the media.
"She agreed," Mook testified.
Mook later said he "can't recall the exact sequence of events," when asked if he shared the idea to give the Trump-Alfa Bank allegations to the media with Clinton before or after the decision was made.

"All I remember is that she agreed with the decision," Mook testified.

Via Politico, he also claimed that Hillary did not direct Sussman to take this lie to the FBI, supposedly.

The lie they've agreed to is that they wanted to bring this story to the media, not the FBI:

"Going to the FBI does not seem like a very effective way to get that information out to the public. We do that through the media," he said.
Mook said that after discussions at the highest levels of the campaign, they decided to do just that. He also said that somewhere around that time he informed Clinton personally and she concurred.
"I discussed it with Hillary as well," Mook said. "She agreed to that.... She thought we made the right decision."

Put this rancid c**t under oath and make her testify to that.

So Sussman's defense is, "Going to the FBI was my own idea, so I wasn't lying when I said I wasn't representing a client for that hour I was at the Bureau."

Even though he would subsequently bill his time delivering this hoax to the FBI to Hillary Clinton and her law firm, who were his clients.

Posted by: Ace at 02:29 PM

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1 First!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 20, 2022 02:30 PM (b2nrj)

2 Top ten!

Posted by: Squid at May 20, 2022 02:31 PM (mrdgj)

3 >I can think of a more uncomfortable answer: The Guild protects the Guild.

I won't stand for this attack on our lord and savior, Durham!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at May 20, 2022 02:31 PM (n+JUG)

4 There is no maybe to Hillary knowing the Trump story was bullshit; that's what she paid for.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:31 PM (ynpvh)

5 Hillary, meet Mook's bus.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 20, 2022 02:31 PM (56+8G)

6 The power struggle between the FBI and the Clinton's is going to be lit!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 20, 2022 02:31 PM (5pTK/)

7 I noodled

Posted by: Squid at May 20, 2022 02:32 PM (mrdgj)

8 its not lying its, uh, fortifying the truth!

Posted by: Sussmann at May 20, 2022 02:32 PM (ESjRY)

9 Sean Hannity has no comment. Mostly good people work at the FBI.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:32 PM (ynpvh)

10 FBI and the Clinton's squaring off is just government mafioso families settle scores.

With any luck, both sides sustain injuries.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 20, 2022 02:33 PM (5pTK/)

11 8 its not lying its, uh, fortifying the truth!

Posted by: Sussmann at May 20, 2022 02:32 PM (ESjRY)

Well, fortified with something strong smelling, at any rate.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:33 PM (ynpvh)

12 Trump should sue the Federal government for a billion dollars.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 20, 2022 02:33 PM (eMEkg)

13 Hellman added that he wondered if the person who put together the data was suffering from a mental disability.

Does Trump Derangement Syndrome qualify?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 20, 2022 02:33 PM (ppBhU)

14 Wow. This will certainly make the left think twice going forward, what with their principles and ethics.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 02:33 PM (uia9V)

15 The FBI is the armed wing of the democrat party.

And, by the way, the fact that they lied, used knowingly fabricated evidence and opened investigations into the Trump campaign, and continued to spy on the sitting president, somehow in no way implies they were involved in a coup to remove him in 2020. Somehow.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 20, 2022 02:33 PM (5kI0z)

16 10 FBI and the Clinton's squaring off is just government mafioso families settle scores.

With any luck, both sides sustain injuries.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 20, 2022 02:33 PM (5pTK/)

Ever heard of DARVO? Deflect and Reverse Victim and Offender. This is ALL Trump's fault!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:33 PM (ynpvh)

17 Via Politico, he also claimed that Hillary did not direct Sussman to take this lie to the FBI

Will no one rid me of this turbulent Trump?

Posted by: Hillary at May 20, 2022 02:34 PM (ZsR3z)

18 The good guys stepped out for a Ham and Egg and the few bad apples in the Cincinnati Office did some thing.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2022 02:34 PM (4lTHC)

19 Sounds like the FBI "lacked candor" ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 02:34 PM (DU+/6)

20 At this point what difference does it make.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 02:34 PM (dwmgf)

21 In reality, Trump's tweet probably just restated what Levin had said. But the fact that the FBI did not know how much Trump knew meant FBI leadership had a choice to make. They could either downplay the investigation with a view to wrapping it up or they could double down even though they had not found any incriminating evidence.
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Uhh, duh. "wrap it up" was not an acceptable answer. They had a mission to accomplish.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 02:34 PM (DU+/6)

22

Have no worries Citizens, all is well!

Also, all Red Level and below Citizens whose identity number ends in 'Z' please report to the nearest Repurposing Booth.

Thank you for your cooperation.

Posted by: Friend Computer at May 20, 2022 02:34 PM (7DYli)

23 Staying with the Popeye's Chicken theme, I just checked; 16 piece Chicken Tenders family meal is $44.95 in Chicago western suburbs (Darien, to be precise).

It's a lot of food, but sheeesh....

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at May 20, 2022 02:34 PM (oedLL)

24 >>So Sussman's defense is, "Going to the FBI was my own idea, so I wasn't lying when I said I wasn't representing a client for that hour I was at the Bureau."

Small problem with that defense is he's already testified before Congress under oath that he took the information to the FBI on behalf of a client.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 02:34 PM (ZLI7S)

25 I'm ready for love.

Posted by: Bobbie Mook at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (Xrfse)

26 19 Sounds like the FBI "lacked candor" ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 02:34 PM (DU+/6)

And morals. And fealty to the oaths of office. And...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (ynpvh)

27 >>>It's a lot of food, but sheeesh....

not really, I mean, tenders aren't all that big.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (0G13K)

28 Podesta.

Posted by: klaftern at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (taPSh)

29 at the last thread a male commenter said that he had no interest in looking as her tits.

A male who has no interest in looking at her - whoever she may be - tits should reconsider his man card.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (vW9Vw)

30 How coincidental that this all comes out JUST after the expiration of the statute of limitations...

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (fI5MT)

31 "The FBI appears to have concealed these matters from the DOJ."

So do we have DOJ fixin' to throw FBI under the train?

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (MkuC5)

32 While we have become accustomed to false statements charges being filed against Trump associates such as Roger Stone, Papadopoulos, and Michael Flynn, those same charges are also applicable to false statements or concealment of material facts by FBI officials to DOJ officials in the conduct of their supervision of FBI investigations.
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Only technically. In reality, they are definitely *not* applicable to the malefactors.

Potentially, we're sitting on three million dollars. Realistically, we live with a couple of whores and future politician.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (DU+/6)

33 They are all lying, as usual. Going to be a long summer.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (E0NVW)

34 Staying with the Popeye's Chicken theme, I just checked; 16 piece Chicken Tenders family meal is $44.95 in Chicago western suburbs (Darien, to be precise).

It's a lot of food, but sheeesh....
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at May 20, 2022 02:34 PM (oedLL)

Holy hell, $51.99 in Post Falls, ID.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 20, 2022 02:36 PM (DRSnL)

35 It's a lot of food, but sheeesh....
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You can buy four or five baked chickens at the grocery store for less.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 02:36 PM (uia9V)

36 >>>So do we have DOJ fixin' to throw FBI under the train?

shyah, right

as a friend remarked: The FBI "misled" the DOJ. Okey.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 02:36 PM (0G13K)

37 It isn't illegal when the FBI does it!

Posted by: Bill Barr at May 20, 2022 02:36 PM (Cqnlw)

38 IMPORTANT REMINDER:

The majority GOP House, led by Paul Ryan, and the majority Senate, led by Mitch McConnell, all defended the need for a special counsel to investigate Trump.

So, not that Hillary is any less of a c**t or deserving to be imprisoned, but the rest of the DC GOP c*cks were in on it too.

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 02:36 PM (YVBLw)

39 27 >>>It's a lot of food, but sheeesh....

not really, I mean, tenders aren't all that big.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (0G13K)

And where does one, praytell, harvest said tenders from a chicken?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:36 PM (ynpvh)

40 >>>You can buy four or five baked chickens at the grocery store for less.

nothin' like going to a grocery at like 8pm and picking up a whole rotisserie chicken for like five bucks.

(Though probably you can't get that price now.)

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 02:37 PM (0G13K)

41 29 at the last thread a male commenter said that he had no interest in looking as her tits.

A male who has no interest in looking at her - whoever she may be - tits should reconsider his man card.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (vW9Vw)

Would you want to see Nancy Pelosi's tits right now?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:37 PM (ynpvh)

42 I can think of a more uncomfortable answer: The Guild protects the Guild.
The "agents of Justice" will never face Justice themselves. Never.
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Bingo. Anyone who starts an argument amounting to "his chartered scope is only private individuals" and frames it as "uncomfortable" is either playing the reader for a fool or is himself too terrified of the possibility that the entire system is hopelessly corrupt.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 02:37 PM (DU+/6)

43 >>>And where does one, praytell, harvest said tenders from a chicken?

Brian Stelter Knows

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 02:37 PM (0G13K)

44 In a just, ideal world congress would reconsider funding, structure, and the legalities of the FBI over this.

But then in such a world the FBI wouldn't be this kind of corrupt, either.

Staying with the Popeye's Chicken theme, I just checked; 16 piece Chicken Tenders family meal is $44.95 in Chicago western suburbs

The 16 piece tender meal here is $52, no taxes. Has 16 tenders, 3 large signature sides, 8 hot buttermilk biscuits and 6 sauces.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 02:37 PM (KZzsI)

45 Former Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook testified Friday that then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton approved the dissemination of materials alleging a covert communications channel between the Trump Organization and Russia's Alfa Bank to the media, despite campaign officials not being "totally confident" in the legitimacy of the data.
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Well, Mook's death clock has started.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 02:37 PM (DU+/6)

46 IMPORTANT REMINDER:

The majority GOP House, led by Paul Ryan, and the majority Senate, led by Mitch McConnell, all defended the need for a special counsel to investigate Trump.

So, not that Hillary is any less of a c**t or deserving to be imprisoned, but the rest of the DC GOP c*cks were in on it too.

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 02:36 PM (YVBLw)

Just needed to be said again. For all the HotAir types. Anyone have Ed's e-mail?

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at May 20, 2022 02:37 PM (fI5MT)

47 Small problem with that defense is he's already testified before Congress under oath that he took the information to the FBI on behalf of a client.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Cue, Badge 714 theme

Posted by: Braenyard at May 20, 2022 02:38 PM (vW9Vw)

48 I survived Whitewater, Vince Foster and Benghazi. I have chunks of guys like Durham in my stool.

Posted by: Hillary at May 20, 2022 02:38 PM (zPOq2)

49 You can buy four or five baked chickens at the grocery store for less.

I'm pretty sure the last one I bought from the Giant was a baked sparrow. OTOH, I got one at Costco for the same price and it had to be at least twice, probably 3x the size. Of course, when you stuck a fork in it, it flew around the room and went BLLLLLLFFFFFT.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 02:38 PM (ZsR3z)

50 #TwoWeeks

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 20, 2022 02:38 PM (oHd/0)

51 Hillary has always lived on the ragged edge of truth.

Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 02:38 PM (VJsqe)

52 >>nothin' like going to a grocery at like 8pm and picking up a whole rotisserie chicken for like five bucks.

Loss Leaders are the Best Leaders.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2022 02:38 PM (4lTHC)

53 You can buy four or five baked chickens at the grocery store for less.

Yeah, supermarket delis have way better prices on whole chickens. But the tenders are good for people who don't want to wade through gristle, fat, skin etc to get to the meat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 02:38 PM (KZzsI)

54 Staying with the Popeye's Chicken theme, I just checked; 16 piece Chicken Tenders family meal is $44.95 in Chicago western suburbs (Darien, to be precise).

It's a lot of food, but sheeesh....

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma

To me, fast food implies not needing to get a loan to purchase it. I can get two steak dinners for that price. So far.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 20, 2022 02:38 PM (5kI0z)

55 36 >>>So do we have DOJ fixin' to throw FBI under the train?

shyah, right

as a friend remarked: The FBI "misled" the DOJ. Okey.
Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 02:36 PM (0G13K)

Build Back Better Bruh!

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (MkuC5)

56 This isn't a story. Only Russian bots would be bringing it up.

Posted by: Andrew McCarthy at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (Cqnlw)

57 Would you want to see Nancy Pelosi's tits right now?

Kinda. It'd be more like a scientific investigation into the long-term effects of gravity, than a sexual thing, but I'm committed to science.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (ppBhU)

58 I mean, I'm so used the the double standard of government officials, I generally find it unremarkable.

Still though, lying to the FBI, even when said lie may be nothing more than a faulty memory, or expanding on previous testimony, is punishable, but, the FBI lying to investigators, meh, no biggie.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (5pTK/)

59 Just remember, Trump is the one that decided not to go after Hillary. "Lock her up!" was just a bullshit slogan, sort of like "drain the swamp"

I really think had Trump gone after Hillary, the Russia play would have been put on ice. It just green light that there were no consequences for the DC elite.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (PwNLq)

60 So Sussman's defense is, "Going to the FBI was my own idea, so I wasn't lying when I said I wasn't representing a client for that hour I was at the Bureau."
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Okay, this is a fair point - though some renegades and wreckers on this panel disagree.

We shall hang instead of acquitting, and we apologize to both Mr. Sussman and Ms. Clinton for failing to reach a verdict.

Posted by: The Jury at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (DU+/6)

61 I have chunks of guys like Durham in my stool.
Posted by: Hillary
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Your going to get a big prolapse this time.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (vW9Vw)

62 It doesn't matter if we elect conservatives and take all branches of the government. They will always have the IRS, FBI, EPA, ATF and other agencies he'll bent on self preservation, self promotion and the advancement of globalism.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (bmZhX)

63 >>> Put this rancid c**t under oath and make her testify to that.

I

have

no

recollection

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (XlZ2m)

64 53 You can buy four or five baked chickens at the grocery store for less.

Yeah, supermarket delis have way better prices on whole chickens. But the tenders are good for people who don't want to wade through gristle, fat, skin etc to get to the meat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 02:38 PM (KZzsI)

Easy enough to remove the meat when the rotisserie chicken is still warm.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (ynpvh)

65 "not really, I mean, tenders aren't all that big."

True, but it comes with 3 large sides and 8 biscuits; would feed 4 moderately appetited adults, or 2 teenage boys. Maybe.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (oedLL)

66 A pox on all their houses.

Posted by: m at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (nIvvp)

67 29 at the last thread a male commenter said that he had no interest in looking as her tits.

A male who has no interest in looking at her - whoever she may be - tits should reconsider his man card.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (vW9Vw)

He's probably chicken.

Posted by: Just Lily at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (4C4P9)

68 They are all lying, as usual. Going to be a long summer.

Posted by: Infidel at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (E0NVW)

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I've taken to calling it a cruel summer. It implies the protracted length, as well as ample amounts of pain. Plus, it's VDH approved.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (TNyrE)

69 As we speak a retired CIA officer named Mark Chadason is on the stand testifying that in January of 2017 Sussmann brought him information about Trump and claimed he was working for a client who was an engineer with multiple patents, sounds like Joffe, and a Republican.

The plot thickens.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (ZLI7S)

70 “Mook” seems like an appropriate surname for that guy.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (MVax4)

71 Catching up on the day, been out doing farm disaster management. Cows are born dumb and seem to get dumber. To recap, happy about the NY congressional district fail - and waiting for the rumble between Nadler and Maloney; on NATO, let's allow Sweden and Finland in and then leave ourselves; Sussman walks, but the damage to the FBI is now terminal. And now to head for JJ's site for the Morning Report.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (oWBc3)

72 45 Former Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook testified Friday that then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton approved the dissemination of materials alleging a covert communications channel between the Trump Organization and Russia's Alfa Bank to the media, despite campaign officials not being "totally confident" in the legitimacy of the data.
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Well, Mook's death clock has started.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 02:37 PM (DU+/6)

Clinton is pretty much out of politics, no way she wants to run next election when IF she wins, she has a Depressed economy, and some real problems that can lead to a National Divorce.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (oHd/0)

73 I think I need to appoint a special prosecutor to check this out

MUELLER

MUELLER, anyone

Posted by: Merrick at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (us2H3)

74 57 Would you want to see Nancy Pelosi's tits right now?

Kinda. It'd be more like a scientific investigation into the long-term effects of gravity, than a sexual thing, but I'm committed to science.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (ppBhU)

Well, in her case, you'd probably need to keep your gaze low to see them hanging down around her knees.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

75 The majority GOP House, led by Paul Ryan, and the majority Senate, led by Mitch McConnell, all defended the need for a special counsel to investigate Trump.

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 02:36 PM (YVBLw)

Small addendum - they also all knew it was fake the entire time.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (5kI0z)

76 I won't stand for this attack on our lord and savior, Durham!
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at May 20, 2022 02:31 PM (n+JUG)

As far as I know, Durham's authority comes from Bill Barr, and Barr absolutely was and is a Deep State fixer. So when people are critical of Durham, I would at least consider the possibility if he was one of the fixers himself, it would be a helluva lot easier for him to just walk away at this point, as no one else is urging him to continue from within the Biden DoJ.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (YV6PJ)

77 >>I've taken to calling it a cruel summer. It implies the protracted length, as well as ample amounts of pain. Plus, it's VDH approved.

Bananarama Approves This Message.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (4lTHC)

78 Some chicken places use rooster scrotums for tenders. This may's well be foreskins.

Posted by: Eromero at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (0OP+5)

79 I really think had Trump gone after Hillary

They went after Flynn the second day of his administration. He didn’t have time to do shit before they attacked

Posted by: Squid at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (mrdgj)

80 I read these stories seems like everyday, noting and I mean nothing will happen..If it was in a newspaper, I'd say its a waste of ink. Or betters are going to make sure of that. Maybe some lonely janitor might be jailed, but that's it.

Posted by: Colin at May 20, 2022 02:41 PM (YVx1O)

81 I really think had Trump gone after Hillary, the Russia play would have been put on ice. It just green light that there were no consequences for the DC elite.
Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (PwNLq)
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He would probably have been put on ice. As in a slab. As in a mortuary drawer. Not to mention that the utter collapse of government would have likely occurred, too, as the agencies openly and publicly disregarded orders and went on a public counteroffensive. They didn't start nakedly disobeying orders until near the end, and even then it wasn't all that public. Had he gone after Hill-dog, that would have played out differently.

Might have been for the best, really.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 02:41 PM (DU+/6)

82 Day-old whole baked chicken from the chain store. It's what's for dinner.

Posted by: klaftern at May 20, 2022 02:41 PM (taPSh)

83 Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (PwNLq)

How do you see this "going after Hillary" playing out? Be honest.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 02:41 PM (zPOq2)

84 >>Would you want to see Nancy Pelosi's tits right now?

Wisconcin Housewife Sheds 148 lbs Using this one Weird Trick

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2022 02:41 PM (4lTHC)

85 66 A pox on all their houses.

Posted by: m at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (nIvvp)

Monkey pox

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:41 PM (ynpvh)

86 40 >>>You can buy four or five baked chickens at the grocery store for less.

nothin' like going to a grocery at like 8pm and picking up a whole rotisserie chicken for like five bucks.

(Though probably you can't get that price now.)
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Safeway in NOVA advertises them at $6.20 each. Add some coleslaw or turnip greens and rice/gravy and you're eating like a King. Popeyes sucks. Original Recipe is good but nobody there speaks English so your order is always fucked up.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 02:41 PM (uia9V)

87 74 57 Would you want to see Nancy Pelosi's tits right now?

Kinda. It'd be more like a scientific investigation into the long-term effects of gravity, than a sexual thing, but I'm committed to science.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (ppBhU)

Well, in her case, you'd probably need to keep your gaze low to see them hanging down around her knees.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

Yeah, she could probably give her own tits horsey rides. How much fun would that be?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 20, 2022 02:41 PM (ppBhU)

88 The FBI knew this was a Hillary campaign op. The media knew this was a Hillary campaign op. They knew it was all lies. Durham knows they knew it was all lies.
He is left having to pretend the FBI didn't know and prosecuting Sussmann for lying. The media has to pretend they didn't know or they would have to admit they were complicit in spreading lies about Trump-Russia knowing it was all fake.

Posted by: MikeN at May 20, 2022 02:42 PM (o/eHL)

89 Clinton is pretty much out of politics, no way she wants to run next election when IF she wins, she has a Depressed economy, and some real problems that can lead to a National Divorce.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (oHd/0)

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I'm convinced they're grooming Chelsea for political office. Gotta keep the Clinton Graft Machine fed.

Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 02:42 PM (VJsqe)

90 73 I think I need to appoint a special prosecutor to check this out

MUELLER
MUELLER, anyone
----------------------

He's helping Biden find the door.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 20, 2022 02:42 PM (vW9Vw)

91 Steve McIntyre of climateaudit.org is coauthor on the federalist piece. That's super cool to me. I'd like to learn R.

Posted by: David Prince at May 20, 2022 02:42 PM (WUxVt)

92 Clinton is pretty much out of politics, no way she wants to run next election when IF she wins, she has a Depressed economy, and some real problems that can lead to a National Divorce.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (oHd/0)
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Sure, but he still crossed Clinton and people who cross Clinton tend to end up room temperature. I think the politics are kind of secondary to the blood lust.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 02:42 PM (DU+/6)

93 Hilary Clinton Approved the Alfa Bank Hoax, But Claims She Didn't Order Sussman to Take it to the FBI
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Remember, these are same people who believe that Republicans talk to their kill-drones through "dog whistles".

Reality is always in flux to Dems. The universe can do somethings and then can't possibly do somethings, depending on the whatabout.

Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 02:42 PM (krQz2)

94 And not only did Trump not pursue Hillary, he asked Comey to stay on after totally taking a dive for Hillary like that.

It was just rank corruption and Trump wanted the same people on his team.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 02:42 PM (PwNLq)

95 14 Wow. This will certainly make the left think twice going forward, what with their principles and ethics.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 02:33 PM (uia9V)

LOL. Yeah, this'll teach 'em.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 20, 2022 02:43 PM (Qhnrt)

96 Please, ixnay on the elosiPay itstay.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 20, 2022 02:43 PM (MVax4)

97 Even though he would subsequently bill his time delivering this hoax to the FBI to Hillary Clinton and her law firm, who were his clients.
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That should settle the matter of whether or not he was acting on Clinton's behalf at the FBI.

If we lived in a sane world, with a legitimate justice system. Of course, we don't. Not anymore.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 20, 2022 02:43 PM (MvHI3)

98 I'm convinced they're grooming Chelsea for political office. Gotta keep the Clinton Graft Machine fed.
Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 02:42 PM (VJsqe)
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Not a chance. They may have entertained the notion, but it won't happen. The Clintons are finished. Their faction is finished. There are still plenty of gangsters in the Party and in the various organs of state, but they're on the outs. The Maoists are in charge now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 02:43 PM (DU+/6)

99 Bananarama Approves This Message.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (4lTHC)

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And, yes, we cannot forget those we obtained this inspiration from from.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 20, 2022 02:43 PM (TNyrE)

100 87 74 57 Would you want to see Nancy Pelosi's tits right now?

Kinda. It'd be more like a scientific investigation into the long-term effects of gravity, than a sexual thing, but I'm committed to science.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (ppBhU)

Well, in her case, you'd probably need to keep your gaze low to see them hanging down around her knees.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (ynpvh)

Yeah, she could probably give her own tits horsey rides. How much fun would that be?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 20, 2022 02:41 PM (ppBhU)

There's probably porn for that.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:44 PM (ynpvh)

101 We endorse Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, as bulwarks against Trump's toxic corruption.

Posted by: NeverTrump, the Smartest Guys in Any Room at May 20, 2022 02:44 PM (0G13K)

102 I hate to say this, but the defense might win. The defense appears to be, "Look, this dossier have been BS (OK, it was. We'll finally admit it, OK?), but we had a patriotic duty to take it to the FBI. It's their job to sort that stuff out. Can't blame us for that."
I think they can convince a jury of that, especially a jury with a DC-level of dumb.

Posted by: Wally at May 20, 2022 02:44 PM (FJYfm)

103 "Notes of a Meeting Between FBI and DOJ Reveal FBI Repeatedly Lying to Justify Trump Investigation"

Meh. So an agent or two lied. That still leaves 99.999% of the agents as Great Americans. And here's Andrew McCarthy to explain how I'm right.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at May 20, 2022 02:44 PM (aXxgO)

104 He would probably have been put on ice. As in a slab. As in a mortuary drawer.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

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100% this.

Trump had a choice -- go after Hillary or try to get his agenda done.

Both things couldn't have happpened.

He (naively) thought that both Rs and Ds wanted what was best for the country and that they could find compromises. He didn't realize that both parties (at least the elected members in DC) only care about themselves and lining their own pockets, even if that means selling the USA out to China.

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 02:44 PM (YVBLw)

105 >>>Well, in her case, you'd probably need to keep your gaze low to see them hanging down around her knees.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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Science of low hanging fruit.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 20, 2022 02:44 PM (vW9Vw)

106 90 73 I think I need to appoint a special prosecutor to check this out

MUELLER
MUELLER, anyone
----------------------

He's helping Biden find the door.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 20, 2022 02:42 PM (vW9Vw)

From Mueller's testimony to Congress, it seems like HE needs help finding the door.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:45 PM (ynpvh)

107 https://tinyurl.com/485tvmnb

Posted by: promises promises at May 20, 2022 02:45 PM (TOnBd)

108 Clinton is pretty much out of politics, no way she wants to run next election

We never sleep.

Posted by: The Clintoon Revenge Cartel at May 20, 2022 02:45 PM (Xrfse)

109 I really think had Trump gone after Hillary, the Russia play would have been put on ice. It just green light that there were no consequences for the DC elite.
Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 02:39 PM (PwNLq)

Pretty sure the Russia play was implemented at least in part to PREVENT Trump from going after Team Hillory.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2022 02:45 PM (YV6PJ)

110 Small problem with that defense is he's already testified before Congress under oath that he took the information to the FBI on behalf of a client.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 02:34 PM (ZLI7S)

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So I assume legal eagle Durham presented Sussman's congressional testimony as evidence?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 20, 2022 02:45 PM (eMEkg)

111 Hillary to Button Man: leave the gun, take the canolli.

Mook is a dead man walking

Posted by: torabora at May 20, 2022 02:45 PM (uz0br)

112 Now a second retired CIA officer named "Kevin P" who claims he met with Sussmann at CIA HQ in February 2017 has taken the stand.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 02:45 PM (ZLI7S)

113 Clinton is pretty much out of politics, no way she wants to run next election when IF she wins, she has a Depressed economy, and some real problems that can lead to a National Divorce.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (oHd/0)
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Let's remember: "Most Qualified Presidential Candidate EVAH" (who doesn't know when something is classified unless some subordinate has marked something with a classified mark, AND she didn't misread it).

Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 02:45 PM (krQz2)

114 It was just rank corruption and Trump wanted the same people on his team.
Posted by: Blago

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You don't recall Trump firing Comey?

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 02:46 PM (YVBLw)

115 If this type of activity continues, regardless of the eventual outcome (which we all know will lead to zip) the intra-agency infighting is good to see. Some causalities would be nice, and there very well might be some, but not the high level shitheads that need to be strung up.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 20, 2022 02:46 PM (BFigT)

116 98 I'm convinced they're grooming Chelsea for political office. Gotta keep the Clinton Graft Machine fed.
Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 02:42 PM (VJsqe)
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That's gonna take a shit ton of grooming.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 02:46 PM (uia9V)

117 112 Now a second retired CIA officer named "Kevin P" who claims he met with Sussmann at CIA HQ in February 2017 has taken the stand.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 02:45 PM (ZLI7S)

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Damned feds will take anything that isn't nailed down.

Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 02:46 PM (VJsqe)

118 Mook is about to gets ass fucked

Posted by: Cankles at May 20, 2022 02:46 PM (us2H3)

119 I can think of a more uncomfortable answer: The Guild protects the Guild. The "agents of Justice" will never face Justice themselves. Never.

Eventually, they may. But not because of this. And not in a manner acceptable to the Boomer Right that insists on letting the process play out.

That's the problem. That's one of the big disconnects Trump has, and those generations have in general. Life isn't Perry Mason. There's not going to be a trial, a big revelation, and some kind of Earth shattering rush to justice as a result of an "I ordered the Code Red" admission on the stand.

Because there's no collective will to do anything about this. And there's no collective will because the aggrieved player, Trump, sat on his ass and didn't come out guns blazing in a timely manner with a focus on delivering that message. Because he can't. He can't focus on anything other than egotistical outrage.

Every day that passed from the moment Trump knew he was wire tapped was a win for the wire tappers. Just like every day that passed after Election Day was a win for those that stole the election. Anyone that tells you different is just pumping sunshine.

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 02:46 PM (24FPz)

120 118 Mook is about to gets ass fucked

Posted by: Cankles at May 20, 2022 02:46 PM (us2H3)

That's a nasty way to die.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (ynpvh)

121 >>There is no maybe to Hillary knowing the Trump story was bullshit; that's what she paid for.

The truth is generally free.

Posted by: Frasier Crane at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (bNf8H)

122 The latest from Jankowicz:

"I'm 38 weeks pregnant. Not that that saves me from criticism but ... I don't deserve death threats for my public service to the country … I'm happy to take one for the country when it comes to protecting our national security & putting these issues at the forefront"

Still time to abort that meaningless clump of cells, honey!

So, she took this super-duper high-level Federal job knowing that she was going to give birth in three weeks?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (I2/tG)

123 Hey!!! My tits are down here!

Posted by: Hillary. at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (4C4P9)

124 Mooky didn't bang himself

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (us2H3)

125 >>>'m convinced they're grooming Chelsea for political office. Gotta keep the Clinton Graft Machine fed.
Posted by: 496

they are but she just didn't inherit that Warren Hubble charisma

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (0G13K)

126 Popeye's has great food but the prices aren't great. They're even worse than Arby's and that's saying something.

Fried Chicken should be cheap as dirt, but fast food chicken costs a fortune.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (KZzsI)

127 How do you see this "going after Hillary" playing out? Be honest.
Posted by: ...
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People involved with Hillary and Obama's "Russia play" during the campaign getting very scared, getting lawyers, and going dark.

Not saying Trump wouldn't have had political problems, but it was obvious Trump was both going to let "bygones be bygones", ask for the same Deep State operators to stay on, and even indulge them with Mueller while his AG recused himself.

Trump really fucked up every which way and it completely bogged down his Presidency.

Even The Onion had a satire article stating something to the effect of "Democrats still can't believe Trump let this play out so long with Russia bullshit"

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (PwNLq)

128 120 118 Mook is about to gets ass fucked

Posted by: Cankles at May 20, 2022 02:46 PM (us2H3)

That's a nasty way to die.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (ynpvh)

Especially if it's suicide.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (ynpvh)

129 If Trump had gone after Clinton, the FBI and CIA would have coordinated to kill him. And they wouldn't care if everyone knew it.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (5kI0z)

130 I think I need to appoint a special prosecutor to check this out

MUELLER

MUELLER, anyone

Posted by: Merrick at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (us2H3)

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This is just the moment where James Comey is ready to come out of the woods and back into the swamp, where he does his best work (forest philosophy, not withstanding).

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 20, 2022 02:48 PM (TNyrE)

131 You don't recall Trump firing Comey?

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 02:46 PM (YVBLw)

Trump fired him when instead he should have put him in chains and personally frog-marched his ass to The Tower.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 02:48 PM (MkuC5)

132 Kirby gong to WH for clean up duty

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2022 02:48 PM (us2H3)

133 Obligatory:

Most of this has been known for years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 02:48 PM (LvTSG)

134 >>I hate to say this, but the defense might win. The defense appears to be, "Look, this dossier have been BS (OK, it was. We'll finally admit it, OK?), but we had a patriotic duty to take it to the FBI. It's their job to sort that stuff out. Can't blame us for that."
I think they can convince a jury of that, especially a jury with a DC-level of dumb.

There is no way they win on the evidence. The indictment is a single case of lying to the FBI about whether or not Sussmann was working on behalf of a client.

The evidence overwhelmingly proves he was representing not just one but two clients and he lied about it. He might get off but it will be because of jury nullification.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 02:48 PM (ZLI7S)

135 That's a nasty way to die.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (ynpvh)
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It's a nastier way to live.

Posted by: Huma at May 20, 2022 02:48 PM (DU+/6)

136 "A banana republic, if you can keep it!"
CackleCackleCackle
Hic

-Hilldog

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 20, 2022 02:48 PM (fs1hN)

137 Game. Set. Match.

The jury will come back and bring the entire cabal down.

I'm certain of it.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 02:48 PM (v31Ye)

138 I still have not imagined any conceivable way that all this can end well.

This much corruption, this high up, does not just remove itself, and it never does so nonviolently.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2022 02:49 PM (N1WXz)

139 The question is why the DOJ -- and Durham in particular -- gave the FBI a free pass. The uncomfortable answer may be that, as has been suspected for a while, Durham's authority is effectively limited to private actors such as Sussmann and Danchenko and does not extend to public officials such as McCabe and Strzok.

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"Those tricksy, false hobbitses fooled us! Curse them! Curse all halflings!"
-The FBI, mixing it's LOTR references

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 02:49 PM (LvTSG)

140 I try and find the largest rotisserie chicken I can find in the deli section. Use the carcass to make a nice chicken broth. Divide the meat and make chicken salad, and the rest for chicken rice/noodle soup with vegetables that are relatively cheap (leave a little out for the dog who is gazing at me while I cook). Freeze some of the soup and the rest will take you through the week if you can stand eating the same thing over and over which I can. Pretty inexpensive meals.

Posted by: Cheri at May 20, 2022 02:49 PM (oiNtH)

141 The jury will come back and bring the entire cabal down.

I'm certain of it.

You must be new here.

Posted by: DC Juries! at May 20, 2022 02:49 PM (I2/tG)

142 I love the hoops and mental gymnastics they went through to investigate Trump. But when there is "meat on the table" with Hunter Biden, they cover for him and drag their feet.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 20, 2022 02:49 PM (bmZhX)

143 137 Game. Set. Match.

The jury will come back and bring the entire cabal down.

I'm certain of it.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 02:48 PM (v31Ye)

So you do want to see my fun bags !!

Posted by: Nina at May 20, 2022 02:49 PM (us2H3)

144 Sussman: I'm a patriot. I had nothing to gain but I was hoping to help my country. I came independently, not a the request of a client, to warn the FBI of things I found out *mumble from my clients mumble* that could have been significant but I didn't know myself, and told them to investigate.

there's a lotta holes there - but its gonna be reasonable doubt.

Posted by: promises promises at May 20, 2022 02:49 PM (hghc3)

145 >>>The latest from Jankowicz:

"I'm 38 weeks pregnant.

::: nods :::

Posted by: Brian "The Stelts" Stelter at May 20, 2022 02:49 PM (0G13K)

146 That agent Hellman has been called Mayo his entire life.
He hates everyone.

Posted by: torabora at May 20, 2022 02:49 PM (uz0br)

147 Mook is a dead man walking

Posted by: torabora
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So, weighlifting accident, smoking too much dope and going to sleep on rr tracks, canoe/kayak accident, bike accident, somehow obtaining a firearm and shooting oneself despite being driven from an in patient psychiatric hospital?

Place your bets now.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 02:50 PM (Iq9dF)

148 "The wives of Ukrainian defenders of the Azovstal steel plant in Mariupol have appealed to Turkey to help secure the safety of their husbands.

The women expressed hope on Friday that Turkey will become a guarantor of the security of the Ukrainian soldiers and return them home from captivity in Russia."

Turkey has been the main mediator through this conflict, which is sort of interesting to see.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 20, 2022 02:50 PM (b2nrj)

149 People involved with Hillary and Obama's "Russia play" during the campaign getting very scared, getting lawyers, and going dark.

Not saying Trump wouldn't have had political problems, but it was obvious Trump was both going to let "bygones be bygones", ask for the same Deep State operators to stay on, and even indulge them with Mueller while his AG recused himself.

Trump really fucked up every which way and it completely bogged down his Presidency.

Even The Onion had a satire article stating something to the effect of "Democrats still can't believe Trump let this play out so long with Russia bullshit"
Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (PwNLq)

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Yeah, well I wonder what 2017 Blago was saying.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at May 20, 2022 02:50 PM (eMEkg)

150 Trump fired him when instead he should have put him in chains and personally frog-marched his ass to The Tower.
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida

***

Tell me you don't know anything about (the admittedly fucked up and murky) IC laws without telling me you don't know anything about IC laws.

Seriously: name the charge and how you can prove Comey's actions meet each element of same or STFU.

People jabbering about "arresting people" based on *feelings* are as bad as liberals.

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 02:50 PM (YVBLw)

151 A political coup d'etat and no one will pay for the crime

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2022 02:51 PM (2JoB8)

152 >>> I try and find the largest rotisserie chicken I can find in the deli section. Use the carcass to make a nice chicken broth.

i had a dream that I was making chicken soup last night (without noodles) but I forgot the onions celery and carrots. It was a big of a low-grade nightmare.

Posted by: Brian at May 20, 2022 02:51 PM (0G13K)

153 This much corruption, this high up, does not just remove itself, and it never does so nonviolently.

Posted by: jc

OK, but let's pull the band-aid off now, and get it started. The suspense is killing me.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 20, 2022 02:51 PM (5kI0z)

154 Small problem with that defense is he's already testified before Congress under oath that he took the information to the FBI on behalf of a client.
___________

Clearly he believed he was acting on Hillary's behalf, or else why bill her for his time at the FBI?

His claim now that he was acting "on his own is bullshit." If you're acting on your own and not doing something for a client, you don't bill the client for it. You only bill a client for time you spend doing things for the client.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 20, 2022 02:51 PM (MvHI3)

155 You must be new here.

Posted by: DC Juries! at May 20, 2022 02:49 PM (I2/tG)

Just because the judge permitted donors to Hillary Clinton on the jury, it's no reason to be skeptical.

Justice will prevail!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 02:51 PM (v31Ye)

156 152 >>> I try and find the largest rotisserie chicken I can find in the deli section. Use the carcass to make a nice chicken broth.

i had a dream that I was making chicken soup last night (without noodles) but I forgot the onions celery and carrots. It was a big of a low-grade nightmare.
Posted by: Brian at May 20, 2022 02:51 PM (0G13K)

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I don't think this is actually Brian...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 02:51 PM (LvTSG)

157 People jabbering about "arresting people" based on *feelings* are as bad as liberals.
Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 02:50 PM (YVBLw)

Guilty. I feel guilty.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 02:51 PM (MkuC5)

158 Hellman added that he wondered if the person who put together the data was suffering from a mental disability.

*

Is this the info that the Republicans with security clearances had from the get-go and knew the entire time was a complete lie but yet they wasted two years investigating Trump and losing the House and eventually the Senate anyway?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 02:52 PM (9Wrck)

159 >>> As we speak a retired CIA officer named Mark Chadason is on the stand testifying that in January of 2017 Sussmann brought him information about Trump and claimed he was working for a client who was an engineer with multiple patents, sounds like Joffe, and a Republican. The plot thickens.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 02:40 PM (ZLI7S)

Lefties talking about durham and joff in regards to sections of sussmann evidence that were retracted by durham in march:

https://tinyurl.com/leftyfreak

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 02:52 PM (XlZ2m)

160 Like Harry Reid once said, "It worked, didn't it?"

Posted by: Hillary! at May 20, 2022 02:52 PM (sWM8x)

161 So, she took this super-duper high-level Federal job knowing that she was going to give birth in three weeks?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (I2/tG)

What a narcissistic piece of excrement she is.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2022 02:52 PM (YV6PJ)

162 153 This much corruption, this high up, does not just remove itself, and it never does so nonviolently.

Posted by: jc
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The only peaceful way to fix it is by cutting the size of the Fed down dramastically. The IC is the hardest to fix cuz they play for their own team.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 02:53 PM (uia9V)

163 So, she took this super-duper high-level Federal job knowing that she was going to give birth in three weeks?
___________

So she'll take the first 3 or 4 months off, at taxpayer expense.

What's wrong with that?

Posted by: Pete Bootyjudge at May 20, 2022 02:53 PM (MvHI3)

164 Ace: I can think of a more uncomfortable answer: The Guild protects the Guild.

The "agents of Justice" will never face Justice themselves. Never.

You can't spell DOJ and FBI anymore without the letters G-E-S-T-A-P-O. Well, I guess you could, but you'd be wrong.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 20, 2022 02:53 PM (aXxgO)

165 Trump really fucked up every which way and it completely bogged down his Presidency.

Yet the country flourished all four years.

Posted by: Squid at May 20, 2022 02:53 PM (mrdgj)

166 Sessions needed to convene a Grand Jury to indict Comey. Sessions was planted there to keep shit like that from happening. Trump got played.

Posted by: torabora at May 20, 2022 02:54 PM (uz0br)

167 If Durham had these notes that the FBI lied and knew it was lying, the Republicans on the Intelligence had them and saw them.

And did nothing.

Never forget the Manly Gowdy Brigade of Fightin' Republicans sat in on all the testimony where every single witness said they had no proof whatsoever of any type, manner or form of collusion.

And did nothing.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 20, 2022 02:54 PM (Zf0+a)

168 165 Trump really fucked up every which way and it completely bogged down his Presidency.

Yet the country flourished all four years.
Posted by: Squid at May 20, 2022 02:53 PM (mrdgj)

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Well, except for when everyone overreacted to a bad flu that mainly targeted fat and old people.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 02:54 PM (LvTSG)

169 Scott Hellman, an FBI cyber analyst, testified that he knew right away in September 2016 that Sussmann's data did not suggest any covert communications between Trump and Russia. Hellman added that he wondered if the person who put together the data was suffering from a mental disability.

That is not a nice thing to say about Hillary.

Also, this is the data that all of our 'intelligence' agents swore was truly Russian.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 20, 2022 02:54 PM (5kI0z)

170 How do you see this "going after Hillary" playing out? Be honest.

Bloody. So what do you do, if you're Trump ? Place your head in the noose, and do nothing, while swearing the noose is entirely understandable and completely in line with normal governmental norms ? Or don't put your head in the noose, start disclosing shit, and let the chips fall where they may ?

Trump chose the first option. He chose poorly.

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 02:54 PM (24FPz)

171 Are they ever doing their job? WTF? Peter Strzok Sent 50k text messages to Lisa Paige, and spent the rest of his time framing Trump. Did he solve any real crimes?

Posted by: Mean Tweets at May 20, 2022 02:55 PM (BOJAx)

172 I ain't no ways tahrd!!

Posted by: Hillary!(hic) at May 20, 2022 02:55 PM (hWaIR)

173 The indictment is a single case of lying to the FBI about whether or not Sussmann was working on behalf of a client.
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Sigh.

so he doesn't have free time? is there an actual timed bill, that directly reflected his after the fact billing of that particular hour he spent in the gov'ts office to the campaign? Or, is it block billed that day, and he might've skipped out for an hour to do his own thing.

Cuz they gunna need the former. Or somebody saying we sent him there to do that thing on our behalf and he decided to tell them it wasn't our idea on his own.

Posted by: promises promises at May 20, 2022 02:55 PM (AjIke)

174 People jabbering about "arresting people" based on *feelings* are as bad as liberals.
Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 02:50 PM (YVBLw)

Nobody asked you. So go ahead and attack commenters here, and see how we feel about that, champ.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 20, 2022 02:55 PM (YV6PJ)

175 Just because the judge permitted donors to Hillary Clinton on the jury, it's no reason to be skeptical.

Justice will prevail!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 02:51 PM (v31Ye)
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I don't think you could seat a jury in Washington, DC that didn't include active Clinton supporters.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 02:55 PM (DU+/6)

176 I'm thinking of that scene from SOA where the Marshal asks Otto "how's your morning" would be a good punishment for these folks, except the Mook would enjoy it.

Posted by: Mega Brandon at May 20, 2022 02:55 PM (OgZm3)

177 >>>I'm convinced they're grooming Chelsea for political office. Gotta keep the Clinton Graft Machine fed.
Posted by: 496

Chelsea is a dullard with the charisma of a snail. She couldn't even hold down a $600K a year gig with NBC when she was fresh out of college that mommy and daddy got for her. She was and is awful.

Posted by: Cheri at May 20, 2022 02:55 PM (oiNtH)

178 171 Are they ever doing their job? WTF? Peter Strzok Sent 50k text messages to Lisa Paige, and spent the rest of his time framing Trump. Did he solve any real crimes?
Posted by: Mean Tweets at May 20, 2022 02:55 PM (BOJAx)

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He had to keep going back to the evidence locker on the "Mystery of the Los Sausage".

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 02:55 PM (LvTSG)

179 ps

there is a reason Durham isn't trying this himself.

Posted by: promises promises at May 20, 2022 02:56 PM (AjIke)

180 Trump really fucked up every which way and it completely bogged down his Presidency.

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My only disappointment and complaint with Trump is that he didn't announce he was starting a new political party on January 21st, and explain exactly why.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 02:56 PM (9Wrck)

181 >>Lefties talking about durham and joff in regards to sections of sussmann evidence that were retracted by durham in march:

Empty Wheel, aka Marcy Wheeler, is one of the dumbest mofos on the left regarding the Russia collusion hoax. I'm talking Rachel Maddow dumb.

When I see her name I know I am just going to read clown noises.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 02:56 PM (ZLI7S)

182 Even The Onion had a satire article stating something to the effect of "Democrats still can't believe Trump let this play out so long with Russia bullshit"

Posted by: Blago
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You have a Paul Mirengoff problem Blago. Need to have that looked at. Like Mirengoff work in anti trump shots even when those are not pertinent to the story.

The story is that FBI and DNC colluded to push a false story via the media and used that to justify further illegal investigations. They even were lying to the DOJ headed by snoozing Jeff who recused on the issue leaving it to Rosenstein. Trump is not pertinent to the story--it could have been any Republican President targeted in this way.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 02:56 PM (Iq9dF)

183 "Scott Hellman, an FBI cyber analyst, testified that he knew right away in September 2016 that Sussmann's data did not suggest any covert communications between Trump and Russia. Hellman added that he wondered if the person who put together the data was suffering from a mental disability."

My guess is what he actually said was "what retard did this?"

Posted by: Inspector kemp at May 20, 2022 02:56 PM (BLOTa)

184 Trump had a choice -- go after Hillary or try to get his agenda done.

Both things couldn't have happpened.

He (naively) thought that both Rs and Ds wanted what was best for the country and that they could find compromises. He didn't realize that both parties (at least the elected members in DC) only care about themselves and lining their own pockets, even if that means selling the USA out to China.
Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 02:44 PM (YVBLw)

===

leaving out the likelihood of assembled blackmail material inside the deep state.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2022 02:56 PM (N1WXz)

185 171 Are they ever doing their job? WTF? Peter Strzok Sent 50k text messages to Lisa Paige, and spent the rest of his time framing Trump. Did he solve any real crimes?
Posted by: Mean Tweets at May 20, 2022 02:55 PM (BOJAx)

And Strzok? Got his pension back, with back pay.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 20, 2022 02:56 PM (oHd/0)

186 171 Are they ever doing their job? WTF? Peter Strzok Sent 50k text messages to Lisa Paige, and spent the rest of his time framing Trump. Did he solve any real crimes?
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He figured out who killed Colonel Mustard in the drawing room.

Or at least he narrowed down the list of suspects to . . . Trump.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 20, 2022 02:56 PM (MvHI3)

187 I don't think you could seat a jury in Washington, DC that didn't include active Clinton supporters.
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Meh, the Clintonistas are old and no longer much of a thing. The Obamites are the ones to avoid. Stone Cold NAZIs everyone of them.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 02:57 PM (uia9V)

188 The jury has 3 Clinton voters and a Woman whose Daughter is on a sports team with Sussmans Daughter

Posted by: It's me donna at May 20, 2022 02:57 PM (bs+z0)

189 As I've posted several times over the past few years, there had to have been hundreds of people involved in the Russia hoax. Agents, analysts, translators, technicians, supervisors, clerical and support staff. They fall into 4 groups: 1. The true conspirators - Strzok, Page, McCabe, etc. - who knew it was bogus; 2. The easily duped, who didn't know, but believed it, because they were predisposed to believe it; 3. The company men, who didn't know, but believed it because they trusted their chain of command; and 4. The cynical careerists, who figured it was probably BS, but went along because Hillary was going to win and there was no up side to not being a team player.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 20, 2022 02:57 PM (KLWiP)

190 People jabbering about "arresting people" based on *feelings* are as bad as liberals.
Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus

*

Yeah, I regret that those are the new rules, too. They are, though, and we can't go backwards. The only way is through.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 02:57 PM (9Wrck)

191 And how many of us said Durham was nothing more than the emergency pressure relief valve?

Whose sole purpose is to run out the clock to ensure no one faces any punishment?

Children born when the "investigation" started are learning their ABCs in kindergarten right now.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 20, 2022 02:58 PM (Zf0+a)

192 We need to tie our hands in regards to ALL laws and simultaneously be sure that the left doesn't have to obey any laws.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 02:58 PM (9Wrck)

193 188 The jury has 3 Clinton voters and a Woman whose Daughter is on a sports team with Sussmans Daughter

Posted by: It's me donna at May 20, 2022 02:57 PM (bs+z0)

Nevertheless....justice shall prevail!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 02:59 PM (v31Ye)

194 Trump really fucked up every which way and it completely bogged down his Presidency.

That's kind of easy to write retrospectively, but they were hitting him with false allegations from his own agencies. That's rather difficult to defend against especially with the press hounding him with information supplied by those agencies!

Posted by: Mean Tweets at May 20, 2022 03:00 PM (BOJAx)

195 Arresting your opponent who just lost to you is a fantastic way of getting reelected.

And btw being a decent president and getting reelected mattered. And he did get reelected.

No one saw the plandemic coming.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 03:00 PM (bbAHh)

196 >>My guess is what he actually said was "what retard did this?"

He did using internal FBI slang.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:00 PM (ZLI7S)

197 It's probably already been said better than I can, but I have thought all along that Sussman's statement to Baker that he was not representing any client was said with a nod and a wink. In my opinion, Baker was in on it from the start just like Bruce Ohr.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 20, 2022 03:01 PM (rbKZ6)

198 I gave up watching this closely when McCabe's retirement was reinstated and he was given back pay and his legal expenses were reimbursed.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 03:01 PM (oc1LF)

199 The story is that FBI and DNC colluded to push a false story via the media and used that to justify further illegal investigations. They even were lying to the DOJ headed by snoozing Jeff who recused on the issue leaving it to Rosenstein. Trump is not pertinent to the story--it could have been any Republican President targeted in this way.

No. Only one president was targeted this way; Trump. And his response was - honestly - piss poor. Trump is absolutely pertinent to this issue. Because choosing who to support the next go 'round is dependent on seeing how Trump fvcked up this go 'round.

Trump wasn't much different than "W", other than a matter of degree. They both did the same thing. Turtled up and hoped history would exonerate them. Helpful Hint, Geniuses, history is written by the winners. Win - then talk about how you were right.

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:01 PM (24FPz)

200 My only disappointment and complaint with Trump is that he didn't announce he was starting a new political party on January 21st, and explain exactly why.

Posted by: Moron Robbie
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I can tell you why. Unless you are prepared to let the Dems run the next couple of election cycles unhindered for them to set up something like the PRI did in Mexico, it is a non starter. Effectively due to laws in the 50 states and the first past the post requirement, any challenge to the two party duopoly by a new party is doomed to fail. The Republican party itself rose after the Whigs foundered when there was universal suffrage and few ballot access laws for candidates. Today is a different story. Everything from election judges, ballot access, access to voting records, compliance with the myriad campaign laws for candidates and fundraising, etc. are all written for two major parties. The division of power in Congress and state legislatures, ditto.

There is no One Great Trick that will instantly restore our democracy--it is going to take time, blood, sweat, and tears to misquote Churchill.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:02 PM (Iq9dF)

201 No one saw the plandemic coming.
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I guarantee the IC did. Most likely they were in on it. Launching bio bombs on your own people to steal an election is treason in my book. But Deep State wet dreams of Golden Parachutes from their masters got in the way.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 03:02 PM (uia9V)

202 were concealed from the public until just now, after the five-year statute of limitations for obstruction of justice/lying to federal investigators had run out.

Isn't the statute of limitations extended to the last act of a conspiracy, if there is a criminal conspiracy? Seems like the last act involved in burying this perfidy was quite recent, since it just came out now. And it seems like more than one person was involved, and they were coordinating.

I still expect no charges and less jail time, but "statute of limitations" shouldn't bury it all. "No reasonable prosecutor" is the gold standard for this one.

Posted by: mikeski at May 20, 2022 03:02 PM (oxkrN)

203 >>In my opinion, Baker was in on it from the start just like Bruce Ohr.

Maybe, but he has an odd way of showing loyalty by repeatedly throwing his old pal under bus and claim he was lied to by Sussmann.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:03 PM (ZLI7S)

204 Trump wasn't much different than "W", other than a matter of degree. They both did the same thing. Turtled up and hoped history would exonerate them.
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Ok.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 03:03 PM (bbAHh)

205 The whole point of taunting your adversary like when Trump said if he was president Hillary would be in jail, is that you get them to emotionally overreact and make mistakes which you are recording so that when you have enough and are ready to go full count of Monte Cristo on them. I stead he taunted a snake and then turned his back on her. I don't get it. Is this like a billionaire new Yorker Blindspot? Has he just had bodyguards for too long?

Who would make this mistake, which btw we have all paid deeply for?

Posted by: Shiggz (cool ranch MAGA) at May 20, 2022 03:03 PM (veoiI)

206 "161 So, she took this super-duper high-level Federal job knowing that she was going to give birth in three weeks?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (I2/tG)

What a narcissistic piece of excrement she is."

Work from home w/ Baby, Bitches!

Nurse baby while banning MAGA-trash! I am Woman hear me ROAR! -Nina Jizzawitz

Posted by: Scott_T at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (2waQ7)

207 Yeah, well I wonder what 2017 Blago was saying.
Posted by: MAGA_Ken
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Honestly, the same thing.

I was saying Trump should have just nipped it in the bud early on, whether he had to fire Sessions or fire Mueller. Democrats would have fared terrible in 2018 had they tried to impeach a new President. Trump should have rolled in, pardoned people like Flynn, fired the OBVIOUS Deep State operators, and let Democrats try impeachment.

Trump constantly seemed to afraid of impeachment, but they did it twice, anyway.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (PwNLq)

208 It's after 100, so I'm going to put this waaaay-willowed comment here RE: Finland.

Finland was the ONLY country that paid their war-related debt to the US. If it joined NATO, it would probably be better at honoring its obligations than many current members.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (fxCK2)

209
shithead biden is 79.5 yrs old, today.

President Reagan was 77.9 when he left office.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (JgW3r)

210 I can tell you why. Unless you are prepared to let the Dems run the next couple of election cycles unhindered

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So how would we be able to tell?

Seriously, though, I understand. The problem being we'll vote for the same Republicans - again - who will do nothing - again - except advance the same Dem agenda. Again.

Well, until it's election year and suddenly they decide they need to pass a tax cut that will expire for THEIR re-election. F*ck America, though. They couldn't care less.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (9Wrck)

211 >>> Trump wasn't much different than "W", other than a matter of degree. They both did the same thing. Turtled up and hoped history would exonerate them.
Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:01 PM (24FPz)

No. W didn't "hope" he was part of the deepstate. There is no equivalence between bushes and Trump. That you failed to notice or admit that truth calls into question the rest.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (XlZ2m)

212 The Red Wave is coming!

When 2000 Mules finally comes out, Fox News, Newsmax and every conservative blog in America will promote it, share it, and talk about the contents of it.

It will go viral over Twitter and Facebook and Republican politicians will acknowledge the fraud and round up the ne'erdowells and they will stand in unison behind Kevin McCarthy, Mitch McConnell and CJ John Roberts in denouncing the obvious fraud and take measures to make sure that every election henceforth shall be of the utmost integrity!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (v31Ye)

213 So the FBI broke the law to investigate Trump hoping to find dirt Hillary could use. Not only didn't they find any but Trump won so they got desperate and dug deeper hoping to find something explosive and/or to get him removed from office. If either had happened, this investigation would never have occurred.

They broke their oaths, broke the law and damaged the country all to cover their own asses.

Posted by: 29Victor at May 20, 2022 03:05 PM (BJKQV)

214 They broke their oaths, broke the law and damaged the country all to cover their own asses.

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You are aware that Trump said pussy, correct?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:05 PM (9Wrck)

215 In my opinion, Baker was in on it from the start just like Bruce Ohr.

Maybe, but he has an odd way of showing loyalty by repeatedly throwing his old pal under bus and claim he was lied to by Sussmann.
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Did you not watch the Godfather, even once?

Posted by: promises promises at May 20, 2022 03:05 PM (5VVYl)

216 188 The jury has 3 Clinton voters and a Woman whose Daughter is on a sports team with Sussmans Daughter
Posted by: It's me donna at May 20, 2022 02:57 PM (bs+z0)
__________________

might as well have Sussman's grandma, babysitter, best friend from college, Bill Clinton, Vince Foster's ghost and Hillary's poolboy on the jury (scratch that last one)

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 20, 2022 03:05 PM (fs1hN)

217 Some how the "T" word is being assiduously avoided in this entire matter...

I will say it.

TREASON.

Writ large.

Is that too much feelz?

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 03:06 PM (MkuC5)

218 You can't lie to someone who does want to be lied to ....

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 20, 2022 03:06 PM (Zf0+a)

219 Anyone hear a word from that bitch cheney yet?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2022 03:06 PM (d0Qel)

220 All the wasted millions of dollars on the Mueller investigation. What a joke.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 20, 2022 03:06 PM (NpAcC)

221 Trump wasn't much different than "W", other than a matter of degree. They both did the same thing. Turtled up and hoped history would exonerate them. Helpful Hint, Geniuses, history is written by the winners. Win - then talk about how you were right.

Posted by: Glowie
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Yeah no. The true story is that Republicans in Congress at the leadership level and many rank and file Senators/Representatives wanted Trump gone and replaced with Pence. Strzok even alluded to this via the insurance policy. The second to blame is that Rudy had delusions of grandeur and wanted to be Secretary of State--not AG. Third is Jeffey Sessions himself who did not tell Trump about his forthcoming recusal in favor of the rat Rosenstein. Trump comes in at a minor level and even the sainted Reagan faced the Iran Contra along with GHWB with Lawrence Walsh. The only reason the independent prosecutor law went by the wayside was the widespread criminality of the Clinton Admin and the application of that law to them.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:07 PM (Iq9dF)

222 The whole point of taunting your adversary like when Trump said if he was president Hillary would be in jail, is that you get them to emotionally overreact and make mistakes which you are recording so that when you have enough and are ready to go full count of Monte Cristo on them. I stead he taunted a snake and then turned his back on her. I don't get it. Is this like a billionaire new Yorker Blindspot? Has he just had bodyguards for too long?

A man that looks at his title, the org chart, and assumes when he says jump everyone will ask how high because it says so on the piece of paper in front of him.

Put everybody on a plane crash on a Pacific Island, and Donald Trump doesn't last five minutes.

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:07 PM (24FPz)

223 I sold my shocked face on Craigslist last year after the big steal. Can't help y'all here.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 20, 2022 03:07 PM (hCQwg)

224 Some how the "T" word is being assiduously avoided in this entire matter...
I will say it.
TREASON.
Writ large.
Is that too much feelz?

*

Can you prove that any of them ignored at least one "Stay off the grass" sign at the Capital on January 6th?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:07 PM (9Wrck)

225 Even The Onion had a satire article stating something to the effect of "Democrats still can't believe Trump let this play out so long with Russia bullshit"

I think he believed (probably correctly) that if he;d interfered or commanded them to stop it would look like he was guilty and covering it up.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 03:07 PM (KZzsI)

226 Posted by: Shiggz (cool ranch MAGA) at May 20, 2022 03:03 PM (veoiI)

Lock Her Up was very obvious campaign persuasion. And damn good persuasion at that.

No one expected him to arrest his opponent after beating her; however well deserved, that's Third World country stuff and it wouldn't have flown.

When you consider absolutely nothing was going to happen to her if he did try to lock her up, it would have been a massive waste of time and energy. Lot of strategists who never even expected Trump to win giving him advice on what he should have done.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 03:07 PM (bbAHh)

227 Finland was the ONLY country that paid their war-related debt to the US. If it joined NATO, it would probably be better at honoring its obligations than many current members.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (fxCK2)
__________________
A lot of things change in 70 years, comrade. Just look around you

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 20, 2022 03:07 PM (fs1hN)

228 Nixon's Plumbers knew that if they just kept roto-rooting they would find shit.

So it was with Hillary's orcs.

Nothing every really changes in Man's baser disposition. We're born wicked and only fear keeps us from doing worse.

(Listen to the howling in the Chappaqua woods right now)

Posted by: torabora at May 20, 2022 03:07 PM (uz0br)

229 All the wasted millions of dollars on the Mueller investigation. What a joke.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 20, 2022 03:06 PM (NpAcC)

But the bigger disgrace is the INSURRECTION that kneecrapped the Trump Admin from the start.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2022 03:08 PM (d0Qel)

230 Anyone hear a word from that bitch cheney yet?

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Wait, is he still alive?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:08 PM (9Wrck)

231 >>> You can't lie to someone who does want to be lied to ....
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 20, 2022 03:06 PM (Zf0+a)

The reverse Costanza... Genious!

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 03:08 PM (XlZ2m)

232 Some how the "T" word is being assiduously avoided in this entire matter...
I will say it.
TREASON.

Its treason in a colloquial sense of betrayal or abuse of power to undermine the government, but as a legal issue, treason is pretty narrowly defined and has to do with aiding an enemy at time of war exclusively.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 03:08 PM (KZzsI)

233 All the wasted millions of dollars on the Mueller investigation. What a joke.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 20, 2022 03:06 PM (NpAcC)

And whose idea was that ? Right, republican ag's idea.

Posted by: runner at May 20, 2022 03:08 PM (vyw2i)

234 Can you prove that any of them ignored at least one "Stay off the grass" sign at the Capital on January 6th?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:07 PM (9Wrck)

FIB has not turned over the evidence.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 03:08 PM (MkuC5)

235 203 >>In my opinion, Baker was in on it from the start just like Bruce Ohr.

Maybe, but he has an odd way of showing loyalty by repeatedly throwing his old pal under bus and claim he was lied to by Sussmann.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:03 PM

Yeah, I thought about that, but Sussman's kind of stuck. He can't use as a defense that Baker knew he was giving the information on behalf of the Clinton campaign because it's his word against Baker's and Baker certainly doesn't want to go down with the Titanic.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 20, 2022 03:08 PM (rbKZ6)

236 All the wasted millions of dollars on the Mueller investigation.
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Made my retirement quite comfortable, so not a waste.

Posted by: Robt. Mueller at May 20, 2022 03:08 PM (zYDCR)

237 not really, I mean, tenders aren't all that big.
Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 02:35 PM (0G13K)

Wait until you see mine! Bawk! bawk!

Posted by: Lizzo, identifying as a chicken at May 20, 2022 03:08 PM (X9Lto)

238 Biden's Secret Service detail sent home two of their own due to them getting shit faced and getting into a brawl with a South Korean taxi driver. Norms restored.

Posted by: Cheri at May 20, 2022 03:08 PM (oiNtH)

239 I was saying Trump should have just nipped it in the bud early on, whether he had to fire Sessions or fire Mueller. Democrats would have fared terrible in 2018 had they tried to impeach a new President. Trump should have rolled in, pardoned people like Flynn, fired the OBVIOUS Deep State operators, and let Democrats try impeachment.

Trump constantly seemed to afraid of impeachment, but they did it twice, anyway.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (PwNLq)

Things are so much clearer looking through the retrospectoscope, huh?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 20, 2022 03:09 PM (Qhnrt)

240 Some how the "T" word is being assiduously avoided in this entire matter...
I will say it.
TREASON.
Writ large.
Is that too much feelz?

None dare call it treason

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:09 PM (mR6Gs)

241 Biden's Secret Service detail sent home two of their own due to them getting shit faced and getting into a brawl with a South Korean taxi driver

*

Serious question:

Who won?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:09 PM (9Wrck)

242 Pretending Trump could have fired Comey, Mueller and anyone else who was coming after him and gotten away with it is a complete rewriting of history and ignoring facts.

Trump would not just have been impeached he would have been removed.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:09 PM (ZLI7S)

243

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 20, 2022 03:09 PM (SWi3y)

244 Serious question:

Who won?

Everybody was kung fu fighting

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 03:10 PM (KZzsI)

245 I expect jail terms for everyone connected with these nefarious putsch attempts!

Posted by: Deaf, Dumb and Blind Man at May 20, 2022 03:10 PM (jaNSQ)

246 Who won?

---
Taxi Driver obvs.

they the ones getting sent home.

S. Korean and taxi driver. You will get your ass kicked.

Posted by: YMMV but prolly not at May 20, 2022 03:10 PM (zYDCR)

247 @102

>>I think they can convince a jury of that, especially a jury with a DC-level of dumb.

The judge in the case is married to Lisa Pages lawyer, two of the jurors are big time democrat donors and one of the jurors daughters is on the same crew team that sussmans daughter is on.

If Sussman is convicted I'll eat my hat.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 20, 2022 03:10 PM (oy+hI)

248 TREASON.

Writ large.

I read that with Thomas Paine's voice. As I imagine it anyway.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 20, 2022 03:10 PM (hCQwg)

249 Anyone hear a word from that bitch cheney yet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 20, 2022 03:06 PM (d0Qel)
++++
Which one?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 03:11 PM (DU+/6)

250 As I'm sure others have already said. NOTHING will happen to the blatantly corrupt bureaucrats who broke the law and effected a coup.

Late republic nonsense.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at May 20, 2022 03:11 PM (N1tpc)

251 I think he believed (probably correctly) that if he;d interfered or commanded them to stop it would look like he was guilty and covering it up.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
___

I agree, but I think it became obvious rather quickly it was just an obvious which hunt.

Trump approached it like an innocent person would, he had nothing to hide. But it was a really naive take.

I remember almost every single commenter here basically echoing the same thing, Trump was getting bogged down and he needed to end it.

I would say half of Trump Presidency was dealing with this shit. Probably half his tweets and speeches, rallies, etc were about Russia.

It was an obvious trap and it paid big dividends for Democrats.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:11 PM (PwNLq)

252 lock her up

Posted by: fd at May 20, 2022 03:11 PM (vrz2I)

253 Yeah no. The true story is that Republicans in Congress at the leadership level and many rank and file Senators/Representatives wanted Trump gone and replaced with Pence. Strzok even alluded to this via the insurance policy. The second to blame is that Rudy had delusions of grandeur and wanted to be Secretary of State--not AG. Third is Jeffey Sessions himself who did not tell Trump about his forthcoming recusal in favor of the rat Rosenstein.

This gets old. For a guy that is the God Emperor Master of Nth Dimensional Chess, there are a ton of built in excuses for how the You Are Fired guy was just along for the ride, and couldn't hire or fire a single ass that wasn't aimed against him.

It's a Cult of Personality. It's past the Sell By date.

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:12 PM (24FPz)

254 It was an obvious trap and it paid big dividends for Democrats.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:11 PM (PwNLq)

And you would have avoided it if you were him. That's genius.

I will just say this - your theory about them becoming afraid and backing off is not very well thought out.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 03:12 PM (bbAHh)

255 I was saying Trump should have just nipped it in the bud early on, whether he had to fire Sessions or fire Mueller. Democrats would have fared terrible in 2018 had they tried to impeach a new President. Trump should have rolled in, pardoned people like Flynn, fired the OBVIOUS Deep State operators, and let Democrats try impeachment.

Trump constantly seemed to afraid of impeachment, but they did it twice, anyway.
Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (PwNLq)

Trump was done dirty, dirtier than any other president. Thus Trump--and all of us, the entire nation--was in uncharted waters. Totally innocent, anything he tried to do would have looked like the action of a guilty man.

Stop blaming him. He was fucked over.
We all were.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:12 PM (mR6Gs)

256 >>> Trump would not just have been impeached he would have been removed.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:09 PM (ZLI7S)

A clinton would have fired the whole lot and anyone associated in a fortnight, the media would have fallen over themselves to praise the display of leadership and gravitas, and otherwise, no one would say boo accept Graham for 15 seconds on Hannity.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 03:13 PM (XlZ2m)

257 Pretending Trump could have fired Comey, Mueller and anyone else who was coming after him and gotten away with it is a complete rewriting of history and ignoring facts.

Trump would not just have been impeached he would have been removed.
Posted by: JackStraw
___

I heard that so many times and I'll never believe it.

Even after Jan 6 and he had lost and the election and GOP was fuming at Trump, they still didn't have the votes for the 2nd impeachment.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:13 PM (PwNLq)

258 I hope Wray puts new modules in the mandatory training about this!

Posted by: blaster at May 20, 2022 03:13 PM (wBcdF)

259 Well, except for when everyone overreacted to a bad flu that mainly targeted fat and old people.

Yep.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 20, 2022 03:14 PM (Xrfse)

260 And my Republican Rep voted for anything they could throw at Trump. And now she wants me to vote for her.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 20, 2022 03:14 PM (5HBd1)

261 I don't think Trump was playing chess at all. I think he approached the executive job like an executive job, and discovered that it was actually a government job.

Imagine the DMV everywhere you went.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:14 PM (/pPvq)

262 Well, until it's election year and suddenly they decide they need to pass a tax cut that will expire for THEIR re-election. F*ck America, though. They couldn't care less.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (9Wrck)

===

like any of it matters with mail-in ballots.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2022 03:14 PM (N1WXz)

263 Serious question:

Who won?

Everybody was kung fu fighting

Cab driver used the kung fu grip, so he won.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 03:14 PM (ZsR3z)

264 hope Wray puts new modules in the mandatory training about this!

Posted by: blaster at May 20, 2022 03:13 PM (wBcdF)

Those PowerPoint lessons are going to be lit AF.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 03:14 PM (bbAHh)

265 This gets old. For a guy that is the God Emperor Master of Nth Dimensional Chess, there are a ton of built in excuses for how the You Are Fired guy was just along for the ride, and couldn't hire or fire a single ass that wasn't aimed against him.

It's a Cult of Personality. It's past the Sell By date.
Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:12 PM (24FPz)

You're shit is getting old. There's no "Cult of Personality" around Trump.
Try Obama. Or Either Clinton.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:14 PM (mR6Gs)

266 Nothing like being in a Hyundai taxi in Korea. The smell of garlic will drive you mad.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 03:14 PM (uia9V)

267 Well, until it's election year and suddenly they decide they need to pass a tax cut that will expire for THEIR re-election. F*ck America, though. They couldn't care less. Posted by: Moron Robbie
-------------------------
Essentially, we are playing for time here. The forces against the American people are almost all its institutions, its 'allied' countries, its titular 'enemies' and wealthy oligarchs world wide. To change a regime (without destroying the underlying rationale of the American Constitution via something like a revolution) means people replacement in those institutions. It will be tough, take time, and require people forgo their interests in their personal lives--even their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor. We need wholesale replacement of officeholders in the GOP from the party infrastructure, the leaders of that party in the legislative branches, and chasing off the donor class to their natural homes in the Dem party. That requires something like individuals banding together and ignoring the stupid Conservative Media TM hits, the stupid flyers, GOP deepthinkers on the media, and so on. It can be done. Read R. Heinlein's Take Back Your Government for how.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:15 PM (Iq9dF)

268 Trump would not just have been impeached he would have been removed.

So sit there, be a toothless figurehead, and for cryin' out loud don't let your ego get bruised by getting fired. They don't hang you, FYI, if you lose the impeachment vote. You just pack up and leave.

Now tell me again, why should I support Trump to do more to the same for another go 'round ?

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:15 PM (24FPz)

269 The CIA officer just testified that Sussmann also told him and another CIA officer who was present at the February 2017 meeting that he was not representing any particular clients.

So that's now the former General Counsel of the FBI and 2 CIA agents who claim that Sussmann lied to them.

Also, CIA HQ is in Langley, VA not Washington, DC.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)

270 Nothing like being in a Hyundai taxi in Korea. The smell of garlic will drive you mad.
==
NYC cab, in August.

Posted by: YMMV but prolly not at May 20, 2022 03:16 PM (nIYAr)

271 A clinton would have fired the whole lot and anyone associated in a fortnight, the media would have fallen over themselves to praise the display of leadership and gravitas, and otherwise, no one would say boo accept Graham for 15 seconds on Hannity.
Posted by: banana Dream
___

Yep, no Dem President would have put up with any of it.

And the MSM was ALWAYS screaming with their hair on fire anyway, it's not like Trump playing ball with Mueller calmed everyone down.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:16 PM (PwNLq)

272 Pretending Trump could have fired Comey, Mueller and anyone else who was coming after him and gotten away with it is a complete rewriting of history and ignoring facts.

Trump would not just have been impeached he would have been removed.
Posted by: JackStraw

Exactly.

I don't know why otherwise smart people like Julie Kelly can't see this.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:16 PM (mR6Gs)

273 >>> Well, except for when everyone overreacted to a bad flu that mainly targeted fat and old people.

Yep.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 20, 2022 03:14 PM (Xrfse)

Covid was the kill-shot, Trump's orwellian head-sized rat cage. It was all over when fauci crawled from his cave up to the stage. Trump would have been president now without the pandemic.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 03:16 PM (XlZ2m)

274 Who won?
-------------------------------
I fought Rick Shaw, and Rick won!

Posted by: andycanuck (Jtln5) at May 20, 2022 03:16 PM (yikp0)

275 People are going to run out of shocked faces when they hear the FBI lied.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 03:16 PM (lgeFv)

276 Durham Trials = If I Did It by OJ Simpson

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 03:17 PM (v31Ye)

277 A rotessere chicken is a good way to feed my son. Its like chumming for fish.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 03:17 PM (uia9V)

278 Meh, whatever.

The knives are out and things are falling apart. Nobody really cares who gets busted for what anymore. These people are not and will never be my countrymen.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at May 20, 2022 03:17 PM (ai0yS)

279 We're born wicked and only fear keeps us from doing worse.

I do not fear our enemies. Neither flesh and blood or spiritual. Ephesians 4:26, however, is a governor on my life . I do fear my Lord.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 20, 2022 03:17 PM (hCQwg)

280 If you haven't looked up the definition to the word "chekism" yet, you probably should.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:17 PM (/pPvq)

281 Bitter Clinger: "It will go viral over Twitter and Facebook and Republican politicians will acknowledge the fraud and round up the ne'erdowells..."

Finally someone is talking some sense!

U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 20, 2022 03:17 PM (aXxgO)

282 JackStraw is 100 pct correct on the fact that Trump was largely boxed in by the Coup and uniparty.

And even being faced with a Panopticon of traitors and saboteurs aimed at destroying him and his presidency, he was able to become a consequential political figure who's effects will long be felt after he is gone from the scene.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 20, 2022 03:18 PM (oy+hI)

283
I can think of a more uncomfortable answer: The Guild protects the Guild.
-
Yup. As always.

Not criticizing the Founder & CEO of AoSHQ, here, or asking for any changes to his chosen content - I know the HotAir button's up top.

But I don't think Durham/Steiner stories are newsworthy. Who still thinks this matters?

Posted by: Hmmmm at May 20, 2022 03:18 PM (o0I+B)

284 On a bit of a tangent...

We need to start working right now preparing for a Trump victory in 2024. Someone, some right wing billionaire, needs to fund a center where the new government can be organized. Trump needs to realize he can't change anything picking people out of the deep state, so an all new (to Washington) administration needs to be found and funded so that things can happen on day one.

Moving almost all agencies out of Washington has to be one of the top priorities. Pick the red state they most belong in and give the order to move on inauguration day. Forget about cabinet secretaries who know how the agencies work and hire people who know how the agencies are suppose to work. Make sure the congress has the legislation either passed or ready to pass that gives the president and his cabinet full power about hiring and especially firing existing federal workers.

Have a new DOJ in the wings, ready to take over and prosecute all the political crimes that have been committed over the past administration. Show the public that the rule of law actually works.

Clean out the FBI, CIA, State Department and IRS of the criminals that have been running them.

Posted by: jwest at May 20, 2022 03:18 PM (/BlEx)

285 Now tell me again, why should I support Trump to do more to the same for another go 'round ?
Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:15 PM (24FPz)

Because you don't want to pay $10 for a gallon of gas, 30% more for groceries and everything else , and get into a nuclear war?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:18 PM (mR6Gs)

286 I heard that so many times and I'll never believe it.

Even after Jan 6 and he had lost and the election and GOP was fuming at Trump, they still didn't have the votes for the 2nd impeachment.
Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:13 PM (PwNLq)

===

Yes, they did. Remember the State of the Union hostage video? The 1st impeachment trial was over on Friday -- and yet they found a way to delay the Senate vote until Wednesday. Why? Because the SOTU speech was on Tuesday night.

They delayed the vote to keep him from saying anything real.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2022 03:18 PM (N1WXz)

287 If Republicans want to be Democrats when it comes to paying a price for their crimes they need to start paying off the right people. It's not always necessarily all about ideology. Greasing some palms helps.

OTOH if it really and truly is all about ideology then stronger measures are needed. The Clinton's and their ilk understand this. Republicans don't.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 20, 2022 03:18 PM (BFigT)

288 the biggest bunch of BS is that the rank and file FBI peeps are good guys

fuck that

the file is rank

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2022 03:19 PM (us2H3)

289 269 The CIA officer just testified that Sussmann also told him and another CIA officer who was present at the February 2017 meeting that he was not representing any particular clients.

So that's now the former General Counsel of the FBI and 2 CIA agents who claim that Sussmann lied to them.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:15 PM

Hah, Sussman is getting the Michael Flynn treatment!

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 20, 2022 03:19 PM (rbKZ6)

290 And even being faced with a Panopticon of traitors and saboteurs aimed at destroying him and his presidency, he was able to become a consequential political figure who's effects will long be felt after he is gone from the scene.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 20, 2022 03:18 PM (oy+hI)

This

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:19 PM (mR6Gs)

291 I heard that Durham's case was "too narrow" and a broader scope case would have been better.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 20, 2022 03:19 PM (DcKNO)

292 >>Now tell me again, why should I support Trump to do more to the same for another go 'round ?

I don't care what you do. It is absurd to think in the environment Trump was in at the time he could have just fired the head of the FBI, fired the special counsel and anyone else he wanted when the majority of the country was being told he was a Russian agent and everything would have been hunky dory.

At that point Trump wasn't even that well liked by most in his party in DC. He had to have his name cleared or he was doomed. Sometimes you get dealt a shitty hand and he did but he won anyway.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:19 PM (ZLI7S)

293 It's a Cult of Personality. It's past the Sell By date.
Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll
--------------
Hiya Scoggie.

Trump can be criticized certainly but when his enemies collaborate illegally to destroy him--you blame Trump. Curious that.

Basically unless Trump was willing to become Sulla, he was a marked man in DC. He never promised to be Sulla.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:19 PM (Iq9dF)

294 266 Nothing like being in a Hyundai taxi in Korea. The smell of garlic will drive you mad.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 03:14 PM (uia9V)
---
That garlic smell was a big problem when I got to Korea, but somehow they fixed it. It just disappeared within a couple of months. Maybe it was my kimchi addiction.

Posted by: Hillary! at May 20, 2022 03:20 PM (sWM8x)

295 Trump couldn't sneeze the wrong way without an investigation and five alarm global fire being launched but the armchair quarterbacks here all know what he "should have" done. It's incredible.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 03:20 PM (bbAHh)

296 275 People are going to run out of shocked faces when they hear the FBI lied.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 03:16 PM (lgeFv)

FJB on the advice of his handlers will order DOJ to launch an "investigation" and purge all The Good, some of The Bad, and a couple of The Ugly from the FBI.

And then replace them all with a whole bunch of The Uglier.

It's a perfect set up.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 03:20 PM (MkuC5)

297 You know, that group that keeps accusing DJT of being a Putin puppet, sure has a lot or Russians working for them...

Posted by: FriscoYoda at May 20, 2022 03:20 PM (S7une)

298 Trump was done dirty, dirtier than any other president.
------------------
Talk to Andy Jackson. He can tell you about being done dirty. The elite Yankees believe themselves better than you and men and Trump and Jackson. Or go read about Shay's Rebellion. The money lenders don't like any risk to their operations.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 03:20 PM (uia9V)

299 And so many here don't think the same thing will happen to DeSantis.

Sheesh, talking about Trump being naive.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 20, 2022 03:20 PM (Qhnrt)

300 The truth is finally starting to come out on the record about the phony Russian collusion story. This true incident of disinformation effectively ended up being an attempted coup attempt against President Trump and it was done not just by the HRC campaign, but the DNC, the Obama Administration including the DOJ, FBI, and Intel agencies. What went on here continued into 2020 election and installed FJB in the White House It will be a miracle if anyone goes to prison though you could fill up more than a few prison buses with those who committed sedition and very possibly treason. The number of crimes here are staggering.

Posted by: Lost In Space - Now Fortified with Ultra Maga Moon Beams at May 20, 2022 03:21 PM (2mSQi)

301 meeting that he was not representing any particular clients.
==
ring me when his clients come and and testify that we sent him there to do that thing at that time
or
when they produce the date, and to the minute specific bill for the meeting with the CIA agents generated by sussman

==
he is saying that he was on his own time -- is reasonable doubt unless you have :
1. Him saying otherwise under oath elsewhere
2. Client comes in to testify we sent him there for that thing
3. The bill specifically says date time and place meeting with CIA agents -

otherwise he's arguably free to report potential crimes to the authorities that are not his clients.

Posted by: sheesh at May 20, 2022 03:21 PM (Ik5/f)

302 Elon Musk
@elonmusk
39m

Replying to
@Jim_Jordan

All true.

Bet most people still don't know that a Clinton campaign lawyer, using campaign funds, created an elaborate hoax about Trump and Russia.

Makes you wonder what else is fake.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 20, 2022 03:21 PM (NpAcC)

303 Now tell me again, why should I support Trump to do more to the same for another go 'round ?
Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:15 PM (24FPz)

Because you don't want to pay $10 for a gallon of gas, 30% more for groceries and everything else , and get into a nuclear war?

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:18 PM (mR6Gs)

I assume Trump will do the next time what he did the last time. Do as he's told. And he can't do anything else, you and others tell me, because he can't. That's your words. Not mine. He's the Nth Dimensional Chess Player that can't win because the game's not fair and he plays by the rules.

Does it make you feel that much better, with an "R" nominally in the Oval Office that nobody listens to inside the bureaucracy ? Are the rallies on Fox really that inspiring ?

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:21 PM (24FPz)

304 Yes, they did. Remember the State of the Union hostage video? The 1st impeachment trial was over on Friday -- and yet they found a way to delay the Senate vote until Wednesday. Why? Because the SOTU speech was on Tuesday night.

They delayed the vote to keep him from saying anything real.

****

Pikers.
- Vaxxine manufacturers

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:21 PM (/pPvq)

305 291 I heard that Durham's case was "too narrow" and a broader scope case would have been better.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 20, 2022 03:19 PM

I believe it was the judge who wouldn't let him.

Posted by: Moonbeam at May 20, 2022 03:21 PM (rbKZ6)

306 Did Kurt get hisself some khakis and a pair of Ray-bans?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 20, 2022 03:21 PM (hCQwg)

307 Clean out the FBI, CIA, State Department and IRS of the criminals that have been running them.
Posted by: jwest at May 20, 2022 03:18 PM (/BlEx)

===

Agreed on some of the important milestones. That's the easy part. The hard part is how. One of the hard parts of war is the enemy shoots back.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2022 03:22 PM (N1WXz)

308 The women expressed hope on Friday that Turkey will become a guarantor of the security of the Ukrainian soldiers and return them home from captivity in Russia."

Turkey has been the main mediator through this conflict, which is sort of interesting to see.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 20, 2022 02:50 PM (b2nrj)

If the Russians determine that any of their prisoners are members of the Azov Battalion, or other neo-Nazi groups, don't expect them to be released.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 20, 2022 03:22 PM (sMSOy)

309 294 266 Nothing like being in a Hyundai taxi in Korea. The smell of garlic will drive you mad.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 03:14 PM (uia9V)
---
That garlic smell was a big problem when I got to Korea, but somehow they fixed it. It just disappeared within a couple of months. Maybe it was my kimchi addiction.
----------
That will do it. The old dirty Korean Hyundais with the heater blaring were something special in January. Best to consume lots of alcohol.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 03:23 PM (uia9V)

310 Trump couldn't get 5 measly billion to build a wall from his own party. Believing he could fire top bureaucrats during an ongoing investigation into him, righteous or not, and not face dire consequences is absurd. Everybody connected to DC was fighting him, save a select few.
But I am just a dumb drywaller, so what do I know?

Posted by: Fool Otto at May 20, 2022 03:23 PM (DB16e)

311 302 Elon Musk
@elonmusk
39m
Replying to
@Jim_Jordan
All true.
Bet most people still don't know that a Clinton campaign lawyer, using campaign funds, created an elaborate hoax about Trump and Russia.
Makes you wonder what else is fake.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 20, 2022 03:21 PM (NpAcC)

========

Tweeting that to 94 million people (let's say half of them are real, that's still 47 million), most of whom probably have no idea.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 03:24 PM (LvTSG)

312 Yes, they did. Remember the State of the Union hostage video?

Posted by: jc
_____

I don't believe any more "background" chatter. All that matters is Congress got two cracks at this and they failed.

Actual removal from impeachment is near impossible and had Trump been more aggressive with dealing with this obvious hoax, they still wouldn't have had the votes for removal.

But if you don't want to believe that and Trump had "no choice" fine, but if Trump could not out maneuver the Deep State, I'm not going to give him another go around.

Hell, he couldn't even fire Fauci after he had already lost the election.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:24 PM (PwNLq)

313 306 Did Kurt get hisself some khakis and a pair of Ray-bans?
------------
Hopefully, he has some way gay boat shoes, too.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 03:24 PM (uia9V)

314 So here's one way the country might hear about this. I'm told this guy has a large megaphone.

@elonmusk

Replying to @Jim_Jordan
All true.

Bet most people still don’t know that a Clinton campaign lawyer, using campaign funds, created an elaborate hoax about Trump and Russia.

Makes you wonder what else is fake.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:24 PM (ZLI7S)

315 how bout dos Kranians, huh ????

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2022 03:25 PM (us2H3)

316 Let's see:

-Hillary
-Nazis
-ace seems to really be enjoying using the 'c*nt' slur. BTW, when did this become the N word for the female sex? Hell, I know a gal who uses it as her favorite word for women she does not like.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 20, 2022 03:25 PM (3NKiY)

317 Bet most people still don't know that a Clinton campaign lawyer, using campaign funds, created an elaborate hoax about Trump and Russia.

Makes you wonder what else is fake.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 20, 2022 03:21 PM (NpAcC)

January 6
That the election wasn't stolen
That the vaccines work
Most of the tits in Hollywood and on Instagram

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:25 PM (mR6Gs)

318 Trump couldn't get 5 measly billion to build a wall from his own party. Believing he could fire top bureaucrats during an ongoing investigation into him, righteous or not, and not face dire consequences is absurd. Everybody connected to DC was fighting him, save a select few.

Then again, if he can do nothing - why are folks falling all over themselves about how great he was ? He could do nothing. You said it.

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:25 PM (24FPz)

319 Glowie is really butt hurt! Grow up.

Posted by: Squid at May 20, 2022 03:26 PM (mrdgj)

320 Never trust a mook named Mook.

Posted by: JT at May 20, 2022 03:26 PM (arJlL)

321 Trump couldn't get 5 measly billion to build a wall from his own party. Believing he could fire top bureaucrats during an ongoing investigation into him, righteous or not, and not face dire consequences is absurd. Everybody connected to DC was fighting him, save a select few.
But I am just a dumb drywaller, so what do I know?
Posted by: Fool Otto at May 20, 2022 03:23 PM (DB16e)

Any time he tried to fire any Deep Stater, all we heard was "Worse than Watergate!", "Archibald Cox!", etc. Yeah, it's foolish to think he was going to break up the Deep State in his first 4 years, let alone his first 4 hours.

Posted by: Wally at May 20, 2022 03:26 PM (FJYfm)

322 redridinghood: "All the wasted millions of dollars on the Mueller investigation. What a joke."

It wouldn't have mattered if they spent a billion. Literally. The money is irrelevant and - as much as it was or could have been - wholly trivial.

The damage to the integrity of the country and our institutions is truly incalculable. Had Trump continued his term as was normal (which is to say not coup- and Deep State Operatives-laden), this nation and the world would be on a better path and would be measurably richer and safer.

But the coup and its aftermath have been short-term catastrophic. It may well be long-term, too.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 20, 2022 03:26 PM (aXxgO)

323 Boat shoes are the ones with the sewn ridges on the top, right?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 20, 2022 03:26 PM (3NKiY)

324 sheesh,
You do not understand the law he is charged with.

Making a false statement (sworn or otherwise) is a felony when done to federal law enforcement agents period. You are confusing perjury with making a false statement. Martha Stewart, and Scooter Libby, were both convicted of just this law and not their underlying conduct.

Go and read the indictment please and then the relevant federal code before telling us what the law is.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:26 PM (Iq9dF)

325 That would be fantastic if Elon Musk is trying to get banned from Twitter.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:26 PM (/pPvq)

326 Hillary
-Nazis
-ace seems to really be enjoying using the 'c*nt' slur. BTW, when did this become the N word for the female sex? Hell, I know a gal who uses it as her favorite word for women she does not like.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 20, 2022 03:25 PM (3NKiY)

It's also huge in British slang, as in "silly c*nt", "Bloody c*nt", etc.

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:27 PM (mR6Gs)

327 Trump was done dirty, dirtier than any other president. Thus Trump--and all of us, the entire nation--was in uncharted waters. Totally innocent, anything he tried to do would have looked like the action of a guilty man.

Stop blaming him. He was fucked over.
We all were.
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Exactly. Recall, these were the people who claimed Kavanaugh's anger at being accused of rape was proof he was guilty of rape.

Trump was the bull in the ring, constantly whirling to attack the sting on his ass, missing the man in the cape with the sword.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 20, 2022 03:27 PM (Zf0+a)

328 Let me give you Hillary's every answer under oath: "I don't recall".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 03:27 PM (lgeFv)

329 324 Making a false statement (sworn or otherwise) is a felony when done to federal law enforcement agents period. You are confusing perjury with making a false statement. Martha Stewart, and Scooter Libby, were both convicted of just this law and not their underlying conduct.

Go and read the indictment please and then the relevant federal code before telling us what the law is.
Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:26 PM (Iq9dF)

========

"Does this, like, matter, and junk?"
-DC Jury

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 03:27 PM (LvTSG)

330 That would be fantastic if Elon Musk is trying to get banned from Twitter.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:26 PM (/pPvq)

He's be in great company if he was. The best, let me tell you...

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:27 PM (mR6Gs)

331 323 Boat shoes are the ones with the sewn ridges on the top, right?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 20, 2022 03:26 PM (3NKiY)

boat shoes are made outta rebar

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2022 03:27 PM (us2H3)

332 >>Boat shoes are the ones with the sewn ridges on the top, right?

They are the shoes you wear when you want to announce you have never been near a boat.

They are the dickie of shoes.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:28 PM (ZLI7S)

333 116 98 I'm convinced they're grooming Chelsea for political office. Gotta keep the Clinton Graft Machine fed.
Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 02:42 PM (VJsqe)
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That's gonna take a shit ton of grooming.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 02:46 PM (uia9V)
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Those are gonna be some dull trimmers by the time they're done.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at May 20, 2022 03:28 PM (lNHqD)

334 Trump couldn't get 5 measly billion to build a wall from his own party.

*

The Republicans insisted we didn't have the money. It would financially break us.

The same ones who have voted to send $100B to secure Ukraine's borders.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:28 PM (/pPvq)

335 319 Glowie is really butt hurt! Grow up.

Posted by: Squid
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Disruption trolling at its finest.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:28 PM (Iq9dF)

336 Any time he tried to fire any Deep Stater, all we heard was "Worse than Watergate!", "Archibald Cox!", etc. Yeah, it's foolish to think he was going to break up the Deep State in his first 4 years, let alone his first 4 hours.
Posted by: Wally
____

Trump personally asked Comey to stay on as soon as he won the election.

Even Democrats would have applauded had Trump fired Comey at that point. They felt like he hadn't taken a hard enough dive on Hillary's crimes.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:28 PM (PwNLq)

337 Glowie is really butt hurt! Grow up.

Facts are hard. Reality is ugly mostly. Life is not an after school special.

Now, lets talk more about Trump, the guy that was going to do all the great things, but he couldn't, because it wasn't fair. We should ride with him again, though. It'll be different next time.

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:28 PM (24FPz)

338 Trump to Musk on Truth Social:

Gee, Elon Musk never told me that until now he only voted for Democrats. Actually, it was quite the contrary, but now it seems, with all of his problems with a probably illegal purchase of a crummy phony account loaded company, Fake Twitter, he wants to be a Republican because the Dems are "a Party of hate." I could have told him that a long time ago, but actually they are a Party of sickness, greed, corruption and absolutely horrible policy. Good luck Elon, have fun!

The guy can't stop swinging at anything that moves.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 03:28 PM (v31Ye)

339 Hell, I know a gal who uses it as her favorite word for women she does not like.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Is she a Limey?

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 20, 2022 03:29 PM (hCQwg)

340 Google Russia is now bankrupt after Putin seized all their assets on Wednesday.

Posted by: gourmand du noir at May 20, 2022 03:29 PM (jTmQV)

341 I assume Trump will do the next time what he did the last time. Do as he's told. And he can't do anything else, you and others tell me, because he can't. That's your words. Not mine.

Serious question. Why would they tell Trump to make gas $1.68/gallon making him the most popular president ever, and tell Bia Den to make gas $4.68/gallon?

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 20, 2022 03:29 PM (UdkVH)

342 323 Boat shoes are the ones with the sewn ridges on the top, right?
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SPERRY MEN'S STRIPER II SLIP ON PRIDE CASUAL BOAT SHOES. The boys would eat Kurt up if he wore those.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 03:29 PM (uia9V)

343 Agreed on some of the important milestones. That's the easy part. The hard part is how. One of the hard parts of war is the enemy shoots back.
Posted by: jc at May 20, 2022 03:22 PM (N1WXz)

That's why doors need to be kicked in a 2:00am the morning after the inauguration. Mass roundup which accomplished two goals: (1) get the criminals behind bars, with or without charges, for at least a few years. (2) scare the shit out of anyone else with the same political beliefs.

While the primary actors of the losing administration are eating gruel in a cold cell, investigate and prosecute their families for anything and everything imaginable. Lock their adult children up and send their minor children to foster homes.

This needs to be the time of unrelenting revenge, so the message is received loud and clear.

Posted by: jwest at May 20, 2022 03:29 PM (/BlEx)

344 They are the dickie of shoes.

***

Okay, that made me genuinely chuckle. Well done.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:29 PM (/pPvq)

345 290 And even being faced with a Panopticon of traitors and saboteurs aimed at destroying him and his presidency, he was able to become a consequential political figure who's effects will long be felt after he is gone from the scene.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 20, 2022 03:18 PM (oy+hI)

This
Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:19 PM (mR6Gs)

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Trump does have one really amazing superpower.

When the subject is Trump, people expose themselves for who they really are. They don't ever seem to get the retribution they deserve for it, but the rest of us get to see it.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2022 03:30 PM (N1WXz)

346 Disruption trolling at its finest.

Agreed. I just don’t understand it. Pointless.

Posted by: Squid at May 20, 2022 03:30 PM (mrdgj)

347 Glowie is really butt hurt! Grow up.
Posted by: Squid
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Disruption trolling at its finest.
Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:28 PM (Iq9dF)

Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist. You both should just explain Shut Up.

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:30 PM (24FPz)

348 I had a long comment with my many criticisms of Trump that I decided not to post . Wouldn't change anybody's mind . Needless to say I would rather someone else as our 2024 nominee but I'll vote for Trump again if he's the nominee.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 03:30 PM (oc1LF)

349 Is she a Limey?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 20, 2022 03:29 PM (hCQwg)

No. Homericly busty though.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 20, 2022 03:30 PM (3NKiY)

350 Trump was the bull in the ring, constantly whirling to attack the sting on his ass, missing the man in the cape with the sword.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 20, 2022 03:27 PM (Zf0+a)

And ironically it can be argued that Trump has grown more powerful as a result.

The real question now is how far do his, and our, enemies really want to take this to prevent what's coming in November.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 03:30 PM (MkuC5)

351 That passive aggressive feeling you get when you put accusations about you being a troll in your own handle.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 03:31 PM (LsUJd)

352 "Does this, like, matter, and junk?"
-DC Jury

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Well yes it does. Jury nullification has never been encouraged in court even by the Dem judges. Reason is if it spread, it would seriously damage the judiciary AND the DOJ. Lawyers would be hardest hit. Ditto btw for state courts.

I would wait for all the evidence plus the judge's instructions to the jury as to how to judge the evidence before making a simple conclusion.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:31 PM (Iq9dF)

353 >>> Trump couldn't get 5 measly billion to build a wall from his own party. Believing he could fire top bureaucrats during an ongoing investigation into him, righteous or not, and not face dire consequences is absurd. Everybody connected to DC was fighting him, save a select few.
But I am just a dumb drywaller, so what do I know?
Posted by: Fool Otto at May 20, 2022 03:23 PM (DB16e)

I'm not arguing that he could. I'm just restating something that everyone knows. But it's so shocking that I just keep going back to it. That there is so much disparity between the left and the right. If all decorum is only applied to the right then the left will lose all decorum. If all law is applied only to the right then the left must become lawless.

The left has created a system in which the only outcome is for them to be driven to worse and worse states. It was to get an advantage over the right. But it has irrevocably changed what the left is or will be. A rachet is a mechanism that's often used for movement. Apply a random signal to a rachet and it will move steadily along in one direction where normally it would just randomly walk. The left is devolving.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 03:31 PM (XlZ2m)

354 Is she a Limey?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 20, 2022 03:29 PM (hCQwg)

No. Homericly busty though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 20, 2022 03:30 PM (3NKiY)

Pics??

Posted by: JoeF. at May 20, 2022 03:31 PM (mR6Gs)

355 Was looking forward to hamburger on the grill and it's been thunderstorm coming

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2022 03:31 PM (2JoB8)

356 John McCain unavailable for comment.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2022 03:31 PM (ptqGC)

357 Serious question. Why would they tell Trump to make gas $1.68/gallon making him the most popular president ever, and tell Bia Den to make gas $4.68/gallon?
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If you hadn't noticed the only way Biden survives is via serial lockdowns. Roaring Inflation and High Gas Prices are a wonderful way to lock you down. Mushroom Theory of Managent on display. Keep them in the dark, feed them shit and cut them off short.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 03:31 PM (uia9V)

358 The guy can't stop swinging at anything that moves.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 03:28 PM (v31Ye)

He doesn't want conservatives going back to Twitter and abandoning Truth Social.

Posted by: 29Victor at May 20, 2022 03:32 PM (BJKQV)

359 I think it was Christopher who pointed out that Desantis in DC would be Desantis in DC. Meaning not surrounded by friendly and similarly aligned Floridians.

Part of the reason Trump accomplished what he did was because he was Trump.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:32 PM (/pPvq)

360 "Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:19 PM (ZLI7S)"

Please stop making rational, factual cogent arguments. It's upsetting the mountebanks, liar, charlatans and apostates.

Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 20, 2022 03:32 PM (mSy8I)

361 This needs to be the time of unrelenting revenge, so the message is received loud and clear.
Posted by: jwest at May 20, 2022 03:29 PM (/BlEx)

===

I have no interest in kidnapping Governor Whitmer, but thanks for asking.

Posted by: jc at May 20, 2022 03:32 PM (N1WXz)

362 John McCain unavailable for comment.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2022 03:31 PM (ptqGC)

***

What?

Posted by: John McCain, Double Thumbs down from Hell at May 20, 2022 03:32 PM (flINI)

363 The same people that that said Musk's $40 billion for Twitter could solve world hunger just sent Ukraine $40 billion.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 20, 2022 03:32 PM (UdkVH)

364 Mook is now a member of the VRWC

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2022 03:33 PM (us2H3)

365 Just can't imagine any of these Democrats paying for the crimes, gallows should be built but they won't have any business.

Posted by: Skip at May 20, 2022 03:33 PM (2JoB8)

366 >>Was looking forward to hamburger on the grill and it's been thunderstorm coming

I sold a kidney to buy some chicken for the grill and it's getting ominous out there. I want my kidney back.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:33 PM (ZLI7S)

367 Nunez on Fox about this now. To Fox's credit, that's all they're talking about.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2022 03:33 PM (ptqGC)

368 he wants to be a Republican because the Dems are "a Party of hate." I could have told him that a long time ago, but actually they are a Party of sickness, greed, corruption and absolutely horrible policy. Good luck Elon, have fun! -----

I guess 'long ago' is relative.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 03:33 PM (oc1LF)

369 Cernovich
@Cernovich

9m
Elon is having people send him true news articles now and it is quite the awakening for him. Disinformation was and is a huge problem, and the vast majority of this false information and hoaxes are from Democrats and their regime propagandists. Undeniable!

Posted by: redridinghood at May 20, 2022 03:33 PM (NpAcC)

370 Should Trump be re elected, lets hope he invades Norther Mexico and destroys the Cartels first thing. Then finish the wall. Anyone who questions his actions will be labelled a Cartel agent. Good Times.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 03:33 PM (uia9V)

371 The presumption you are making is that just because he had clients, and did work on their behalf, it means that it is a lie for him to have said: "I am not here on behalf of clients". I'm here on my on behalf. Also, not sure that lying to CIA is a crime actually.

I'm not here on behalf of clients may be a true statement even if he had clients.
You can have clients and then do something on your own behalf.

All he has to do is have reasonable doubt. SO far
None of his clients said we sent him. none. Or, did he say elsewhere that he did so for a client (under oath - because he's not testifying and you aint getting in hearsay) and there evidentiary problems still with that. Or, a specific date time bill to the hour/minute where he billed a client for the same time.

Block bill for the day probably not gonna be enough.

Posted by: sheesh at May 20, 2022 03:33 PM (Ik5/f)

372 The cabal will need to get the Pardon Pen into Preezie Puddinghead's hand while he still appears able to sign his name.

Posted by: Roy at May 20, 2022 03:33 PM (paiFd)

373 338

Assuming that's legit, what a douchebag.
Trump really is something. he can't ever let something good happen to our side without inserting himself.

I'm starting to think Trump is actively sabotaging our side.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:34 PM (PwNLq)

374 Please stop making rational, factual cogent arguments. It's upsetting the mountebanks, liar, charlatans and apostates.
Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 20, 2022 03:32 PM (mSy8I)

Hey! Jack is ok except when he has bizarre takes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 20, 2022 03:34 PM (3NKiY)

375 It's also huge in British slang, as in "silly c*nt", "Bloody c*nt", etc.
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For Brits, the c-word seems to be second only to "Fookin' Hell!" which I've always found to be pretty funny.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 20, 2022 03:34 PM (sWM8x)

376 Trump was stopped by a lot of the Vichy Republicans in his own party. Don't forget that. A lot of them still won't defend the rule of law, right to be considered innocent or any other breech of legal protocol as it relates to the January 6th defendants.

Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 20, 2022 03:35 PM (mSy8I)

377 I’m really tired of hearing about this supposed “cult of personality” around Trump. All politicians attract supporters, some more fervent than others. And Trump’s supporters are far more level-headed and patriotic than those of Obama, Biden, etc. In fact, that’s why I count myself one of Trump’s more fervent supporters — not on account of the flawed (like all of us) man himself, but for the sake of the hard-working, no-nonsense, patriotic traditional America that he represents, and that the Left and the Uniparty have so ignominiously abandoned.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 20, 2022 03:35 PM (MVax4)

378 Speaking of chicken, I saw a new trick yesterday.

Breasts cut in half. Half meaning half thickness. When you look at the package and it's $7, your brain sees four chicken breasts. It's not. It's two, sliced in half, and purposely arranged so that the cut side is on the styrofoam and the "breast" side is facing out.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left killed Roe V Wade when they removed shame from society at May 20, 2022 03:35 PM (/pPvq)

379 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 20, 2022 03:35 PM (3NKiY)

380 I dare someone to ask Meggie Mac about My Fatherrrr!'s part in this.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2022 03:35 PM (ptqGC)

381 He doesn't want conservatives going back to Twitter and abandoning Truth Social.

Posted by: 29Victor at May 20, 2022 03:32 PM (BJKQV)

Perhaps. i though maybe he sensed his popularity is waning the more red-pilled Musk gets. Musk is gathering a lot of attention for his combativeness.

Whatever it is, Trump bashing Musk for a previous history of supporting Democrats is about as absurd as it can get from a man who had the Clintons at his wedding.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 03:35 PM (v31Ye)

382 Google Russia is now bankrupt after Putin seized all their assets on Wednesday.
Posted by: gourmand

So Google has no money; but, Russia wants them to keep youtube alive... how does that work?
It's almost like electing someone and having your own party sabotage every thing you attempt.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 20, 2022 03:35 PM (56+8G)

383 "Hey! Jack is ok except when he has bizarre takes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 20, 2022 03:34 PM (3NKiY)"

He gets a pass when he's smoking the cheeba.

Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 20, 2022 03:36 PM (mSy8I)

384 352 Well yes it does. Jury nullification has never been encouraged in court even by the Dem judges. Reason is if it spread, it would seriously damage the judiciary AND the DOJ. Lawyers would be hardest hit. Ditto btw for state courts.

I would wait for all the evidence plus the judge's instructions to the jury as to how to judge the evidence before making a simple conclusion.
Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:31 PM (Iq9dF)

=======

Not a conclusion, just an educated guess that the DC jury isn't going to come out with a guilty plea. Hung jury, someone predicted, and I think that's probably the safe prediction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 03:36 PM (LvTSG)

385 >>Trump was done dirty, dirtier than any other president.

There's a hole in Kennedy's Skul that would beg to differ.

Posted by: garrett at May 20, 2022 03:36 PM (4lTHC)

386 The Archbishop of San Fransicko has banned Nanny Pelousy from receiving the sacrament due to her support for Codifying Rowe

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 20, 2022 03:36 PM (flINI)

387 Agreed. I just don’t understand it. Pointless.

Posted by: Squid
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Psychologically, aside from hired trolls, disruption trolls have a personal need to divert conversations about a topic to something that they want to say. Some are relatively harmless like diverting any conversation about something to Star Trek, boobies, or some other perennial topic. Others intend to try to stake their claim to intellectual dominance by simply driving everyone away from the argument by disgust--insults and implications of foul motives are key in this when the disruptor troll is called out. This is designed to cause people to tune out, others to become argumentative in kind, and to forget what the original post was about anyway.

Spent a time as moderator on a board and you see this type of behavior over and over again. The disruptor troll also keeps coming back 'to win' the argument when banned. Says more about them than their arguments.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:36 PM (Iq9dF)

388 If you hadn't noticed the only way Biden survives is via serial lockdowns. Roaring Inflation and High Gas Prices are a wonderful way to lock you down. Mushroom Theory of Managent on display. Keep them in the dark, feed them shit and cut them off short.
Posted by: Puddin Head

Can someone tell work that? I'm still doing 160 a day to and from work.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 20, 2022 03:36 PM (UdkVH)

389 And now the BBC has picked up the Sussmann story.

I think we can safely assume Hillary will not be running in 2024.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:36 PM (ZLI7S)

390 >>> He doesn't want conservatives going back to Twitter and abandoning Truth Social.
Posted by: 29Victor at May 20, 2022 03:32 PM (BJKQV)

ABC

Posted by: Blake (sent by Mitch & Murray) at May 20, 2022 03:36 PM (XlZ2m)

391 Whatever it is, Trump bashing Musk for a previous history of supporting Democrats is about as absurd as it can get from a man who had the Clintons at his wedding.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

+1

It's just beyond stupid that this is the road he wants to go down.

Trump should be putting out the welcome wagon.

But Trump is jealous and that's all that animates him.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 03:37 PM (PwNLq)

392 Hey! Jack is ok except when he has bizarre takes.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 20, 2022 03:34 PM (3NKiY)

His innate rationality is infuriating.

I'm openly calling for a temporary ban on infuriating rationality, pending an "investigation."

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 03:37 PM (MkuC5)

393 Serious question. Why would they tell Trump to make gas $1.68/gallon making him the most popular president ever, and tell Bia Den to make gas $4.68/gallon?

Ideology. Trump is Make America Great Again. He's a Nationalist. Nothing wrong with that. But he's not balanced, no ideologue is. Hence, he'll wade in slinging cruise missiles in Syria.

Joey Retard is a place-holder. But the cabal that's speaking through him are also ideologues, just various degrees of Globalists. And that's why we're shipping baby formula to the borders and refined gas to Europe.

All ideology. They don't care about results. They don't even measure results. They just push a button because that button has to be right. And that's why they push it. The button is right in and of itself.

Trump couldn't do anything different once he took the Oval Office. He won't do anything different if he gets it again. Because of ideology. He's what he is and he won't change.

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:37 PM (24FPz)

394 I heard that Durham's case was "too narrow" and a broader scope case would have been better.
Posted by: Seems Legit

In a way (and Durham knew it) his investigation was rigged/hamstrung from the start. That doesn't mean this wasn't worth doing. Sussman may yet be convicted. But all the suspicions are now being documented in court testimony.
And we may YET get a connection directly to Obama and Biden. Wouldn't that be something?
A lot of people still don't realize what utter trash both men are.
And a lot of people still think Trump, Gen Flynn, etc are guilty as sin.
General Flynn, a man who served this country his whole adult life, really deserves some kind of.....reckoning.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at May 20, 2022 03:37 PM (vcOmj)

395 And now the BBC has picked up the Sussmann story.

I think we can safely assume Hillary will not be running in 2024.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:36 PM (ZLI7S

The Hell Beast did not kill herself.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2022 03:37 PM (ptqGC)

396 @345

>>Trump does have one really amazing superpower.

Trump did not have to do what he did, he had a swell life, a hot babe as a wife and was genuinely liked by most.

He risked everything including his life and freedom to do something consequential.

Elon Musk seems to be attempting something similar right now.

Extraordinary men attempting the extraordinary.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 20, 2022 03:37 PM (oy+hI)

397 Whatever it is, Trump bashing Musk for a previous history of supporting Democrats is about as absurd as it can get from a man who had the Clintons at his wedding.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 03:35 PM (v31Ye)

Is that what Trump said? It sounded like he said Elon didn't only support Democrats before.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 03:39 PM (fycbr)

398 Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at May 20, 2022 03:17 PM (hCQwg)

Amen .Thanks for your witness!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 20, 2022 03:40 PM (BAIB1)

399 Extraordinary men attempting the extraordinary.

Also driving the ankle biting whiners crazy.

Posted by: Squid at May 20, 2022 03:41 PM (mrdgj)

400 Not a conclusion, just an educated guess that the DC jury isn't going to come out with a guilty plea. Hung jury, someone predicted, and I think that's probably the safe prediction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Most jury prognostications are worthless unless you are actually observing the trial and the evidence presented. I try to not engage in that sort of predictions. The judge's instructions to the jury make it more clear along with the evidence admitted before them. If in the courtroom itself, you can also observe the jury's reaction to pertinent information. One extreme example is a women smiling at the defendants in the Menedez murder cases in California. That woman went on to date on the defendants after the mistrial but before their subsequent conviction.

Branga is perhaps one of the few that actually takes the time to break down trials and present the key portions of evidence and video of it along with explaining the law. Trials are very tricky things to predict cold based on political leanings.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:41 PM (Iq9dF)

401 Nood.

Lum.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 03:42 PM (MkuC5)

402 395 And now the BBC has picked up the Sussmann story.

I think we can safely assume Hillary will not be running in 2024.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:36 PM (ZLI7S

The Hell Beast did not kill herself.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2022 03:37 PM (ptqGC)

Hillary has information that will lead to the arrest of Hillary.

Posted by: Dude Bro at May 20, 2022 03:42 PM (VGRuw)

403 Actual Elon Musk tweet.

@elonmusk

Sus man

Posted by: JackStraw at May 20, 2022 03:43 PM (ZLI7S)

404 And now the BBC has picked up the Sussmann story.

I think we can safely assume Hillary will not be running in 2024.
Posted by: JackStraw
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OF FFS why did you have to say that?!

Its like summoning CHTHULU.

Posted by: well that's it then at May 20, 2022 03:43 PM (MrGix)

405 The article notes that William Barr declined to prosecute Andrew McCabe for lying in an official investigation.

I thought I couldn't hate bagpipes and bagpippers more

Posted by: Fat Jonah of Krypton at May 20, 2022 03:43 PM (V5K0E)

406 For Brits, the c-word seems to be second only to "Fookin' Hell!" which I've always found to be pretty funny.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 20, 2022 03:34 PM (sWM8x)

I've always liked "proper fooked" Sounds smart and shit.

I mean shite.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 20, 2022 03:44 PM (xPJvm)

407 So, she took this super-duper high-level Federal job knowing that she was going to give birth in three weeks?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 02:47 PM (I2/tG)

What's the problem? Two words: Maternity leave!

Posted by: Pete Butterjug at May 20, 2022 03:45 PM (kst+v)

408 A lot of people still don't realize what utter trash both men are.
And a lot of people still think Trump, Gen Flynn, etc are guilty as sin.
General Flynn, a man who served this country his whole adult life, really deserves some kind of.....reckoning.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative
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Probably about one third of the population is quite content to believe that prosecutors and police are always honest with no other agenda than justice. Another third is probably always suspicious and that probably helps make sure that a sizable proportion never get seated on juries. The middle third are the swayable sort that often get seated on juries along with a smattering of the other thirds of the population.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:45 PM (Iq9dF)

409 the only real solution is to abolish the FBI, shut it down, tear down the building, salt the earth, pour 10000 gallons of diesel on it and light it and let it burn for several days to cauterize the earth and clense mother earths soul. Bonus points for blacklisting every single member of the FBI from ever holding any type of government or govt contractor job ever again for life.

Posted by: joe fingerblaster at May 20, 2022 03:46 PM (W+TLY)

410 For Brits, the c-word seems to be second only to "Fookin' Hell!"
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'Cow'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2022 03:46 PM (kst+v)

411 Spent a time as moderator on a board and you see this type of behavior over and over again. The disruptor troll also keeps coming back 'to win' the argument when banned. Says more about them than their arguments.

I'm going to guess you never spend much time in a bar room. And you never get checked much, personally, in your day to day environment.

Long story short, you don't have a big enough stick to explain Shut Up to me. But its obvious that you wish you did. And you'd swing that stick early and often if you could. Some would cheer, which would send a tingle down your pants leg.

I reckon Freedom of the Press - as in, I get to say whatever I wish, as long as I can buy the ink and paper - really isn't in your wheelhouse. Being a former moderator and all.

Who does that ? Who volunteers to push a button to explain to other people "Shut Up" ? Nobody that I'd trust.

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:46 PM (24FPz)

412
I've always liked "proper fooked" Sounds smart and shit.
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'Cockup'. Not used often enough.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2022 03:48 PM (kst+v)

413 Hey, Glowie just said he'd rather have this wonderful Biden administration than anything else.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 20, 2022 03:48 PM (5HBd1)

414 377 I’m really tired of hearing about this supposed “cult of personality” around Trump. Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

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Don't take it personally, insults by trolls are not worth the electrons spent making them. It is a disruptor troll tactic. And the person making them is likely a known troll soon to change their nic again.

To thine own self be true is something to keep in mind.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:49 PM (Iq9dF)

415 Hey, Glowie just said he'd rather have this wonderful Biden administration than anything else.

If you want things to change, peacefully ? Then we have to have this. People have to feel to the pain of what they think they wanted. Giving it to us all, good and hard, and all that.

Posted by: Glowie is the new Troll is the new Conspiracy Theorist at May 20, 2022 03:50 PM (24FPz)

416 A little too late, but finally:

@ArchCordileone
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42m
After numerous attempts to speak with Speaker Pelosi to help her understand the grave evil she is perpetrating, the scandal she is causing, an the danger to her own soul she is risking, I have determined that she is not to be admitted to Holy Communion.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 20, 2022 03:51 PM (IEa8U)

417 Lol. Archbishop of San Francisco will deny Pelosi Holy Communion for her stance on abortion.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2022 03:51 PM (ptqGC)

418 Beat me to it, weft.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 20, 2022 03:52 PM (ptqGC)

419 413 Hey, Glowie just said he'd rather have this wonderful Biden administration than anything else.

Posted by: Notsothoreau
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Troll is most likely Scoggie. Projection, insults, and crybullying, all fit his/her MO. Notice Kurt and Sidney rarely engage very much. Raimondo attempts but has some obvious issues preventing very much interaction. Those are the drive bys.

Nothing matters to a disruptor troll other than argument and concentration of the thread discussion on the troll rather than the topic. That is what disruptor trolls do.

Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:53 PM (Iq9dF)

420 The "agents of Justice" will never face Justice themselves. Never.

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But maybe "Justice."

Posted by: Miley the duchess at May 20, 2022 04:05 PM (Mzdiz)

421 212 The Red Wave is coming!

When 2000 Mules finally comes out, Fox News, Newsmax and every conservative blog in America will promote it, share it, and talk about the contents of it.

It will go viral over Twitter and Facebook and Republican politicians will acknowledge the fraud and round up the ne'erdowells and they will stand in unison behind Kevin McCarthy, Mitch McConnell and CJ John Roberts in denouncing the obvious fraud and take measures to make sure that every election henceforth shall be of the utmost integrity!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 20, 2022 03:04 PM (v31Ye)

Yeah!

I mean, wait, you're pulling my leg I think.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at May 20, 2022 04:11 PM (GD2xa)

422 Trump's making a mistake by attacking Musk. This just doesn't make sense.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 20, 2022 04:58 PM (sWM8x)

423 @267

Essentially, we are playing for time here. The forces against the American people are almost all its institutions, its 'allied' countries, its titular 'enemies' and wealthy oligarchs world wide. To change a regime (without destroying the underlying rationale of the American Constitution via something like a revolution) means people replacement in those institutions. It will be tough, take time, and require people forgo their interests in their personal lives--even their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor. We need wholesale replacement of officeholders in the GOP from the party infrastructure...
Posted by: whig at May 20, 2022 03:15 PM (Iq9dF)

That was 2010. We thought we could retake the institutions. We know now that they will purge, lie, destroy, and change the rules if we ever succeed anywhere even a little. Just look at their new war against free speech and the supreme court.

A handful of states seceding is only semi peaceful option left.

Posted by: Shiggz (cool ranch MAGA) at May 21, 2022 02:30 AM (0SrVS)

424 When the BLM-run jury lets Sussmann off, this will ignite the communist media to say that the Russian hoax was, indeed, real, and that Trump should have been the one on trial. Bank.

Posted by: Jonah Kyle at May 21, 2022 12:04 PM (R4j1g)

425 I don’t believe that the DOJ wasn’t in on the coup!

Posted by: Charlotte at May 21, 2022 09:00 PM (tzXNc)

426 Тhanks veгy interesting Ƅlog!

Posted by: quietness at May 23, 2022 02:38 AM (z/A4I)

427 Very good article. I am facing many of these issues
as well..

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Notes of a Meeting Between FBI and DOJ Reveal FBI Repeatedly Lying to Justify Trump Investigation
Hillary Clinton's Toady Robbie Mook Admits Hilary Clinton Approved the Alfa Bank Hoax, But Claims She Didn't Order Sussman to Take it to the FBI