CBS News' Jan Crawford: We've Sacrificed a Generation of Kids on the Altar of Covid and They're Not Even an Afterthought to Us

Yeah I know you know that, but do you think CBS "News'" viewers know that?

Video below the fold, or at Newsbusters:

"It's the crushing impact that our COVID policies have had on young kids and children. By far the least serious risk for serious illness," she began, adding that "a healthy teenager has a one in a million chance of getting, and dying from COVID, which is way lower than, you know, dying in a car wreck on a road trip."
For the ideology that claims to represent the little guy and stand up for marginalized communities, what Crawford had to say was a direct repudiation:
"But they have suffered and sacrificed the most, especially kids and underrepresented at risk communities. And now we have the Surgeon General saying there's a mental health crisis among our kids. The risk of suicide girl suicide attempts among girls now up 51 percent this year, black kids nearly twice as likely as white kids to die by suicide. I mean, school closures, lockdowns, cancellation of sports. "
Crawford focused on the D.C. area, saying "[y]ou couldn't even go on a playground in the D.C. area without cops scurrying -- getting -- shooing the kids off. Tremendous negative impact on kids, and it's been an afterthought."

You might have missed that on CBS' Face the Nation. Not because you long ago stopped watching network "news," but, because -- as Newsbusters reports -- CBS censored and removed the segment from its program moments before it was about to air.

We know about it because they also post the full show on YouTube, but they scrubbed it from their broadcast show. See the link for details.

So I guess CBS "News'" viewers still don't know that.

But yes indeed, we have absolutely crushed the young to save the Laptop Class:

We have reduced IQs for an entire generation, reduced the ability to socialize properly, and increased psychological problems.

The nation's recent lockdown policies and mask mandates will create a generation of children who exhibit lower IQs and signs of social brain damage, according to a clinical psychiatrist for children and adolescents.
Dr. Mark McDonald cited an Aug. 11 study by Brown University (pdf) that found that "children born during the pandemic have significantly reduced verbal, motor, and overall cognitive performance compared to children born pre-pandemic," during an interview with host Cindy Drukier on a Dec. 25 episode of NTD's "The Nation Speaks." NTD is a sister media outlet of The Epoch Times.
The masks, "Zoom schools," and lockdown mandates have led to "deprivation overall, of social contact, [of] not being able to see faces, being stuck at home all day long, [and this] has actually caused brain damage to the youngsters," he said.
In another interview in the episode, professor Carl Heneghan, the director of Oxford University's Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine, cited evidence that pandemic restrictions and the "fear we instill into children" has led to the worsening of psychological problems.
Heneghan cited his Oct. 2 study, which concluded that "eight out of 10 children and adolescents report worsening of behavior or any psychological symptoms or an increase in negative feelings due to the COVID-19 pandemic."
"School closures contributed to increased anxiety, loneliness and stress; negative feelings due to COVID-19 increased with the duration of school closures," the study reports. "Deteriorating mental health was found to be worse in females and older adolescents."

Even Brandon's Surgeon General is warning about the increase in suicides among teens, partly due to covid and social isolation due to lockdowns and school closures.

US Surgeon General Dr Vivek Murthy says he's alarmed by the rise in suicides among young people and says COVID has caused a mental health crisis, as parents rail against school closures and continued mask mandates.
'I'm so concerned about our children because there is an epidemic, if you will, of mental health challenges that they've been facing, and it's partly because of the pandemic,' Dr Murthy, a father of two, said on CNN's State of the Nation on Sunday.
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Expanding onto why youngsters are suffering mentally, Murthy touched on bereavement and being denied the chance to see friends during lockdowns and school closures.
He said: 'Well, Dana, I'm so concerned about our children because there is an epidemic, if you will, of mental health challenges that they've been facing, and it's partly because of the pandemic.
'We've seen certainly that many children have lost loved ones during this pandemic, 140,000 kids lost to caregiver. We know that their lives have been turned upside down. They haven't been able to see friends as often as they would. And that's taken a toll.
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Murthy went on to acknowledge that the 'impact of the pandemic was at least 'partly to blame' for the recent spike in child mental health issues and suicides, with many youngsters left anxious by being denied social contact with friends and teachers.
In schools that have since reopened, many continue to impose draconian rules which force youngsters to sit masked and in silence during breaktimes to try and minimize the chances of them catching or spreading COVID. In 2020, some school districts, including Clark County in Nevada, rushed to reopen after a sudden spike on suicides they feared were caused by forcing kids to try and learn at home.
Last week, Murthy's office issued a mental health advisory after unveiling alarming figures that one in five young people report experiencing symptoms of depression and one in four suffer from anxiety.

Murthy stressed -- spun -- that suicide and depression have been going up in young people for forty years, but we're seeing a sudden sharp spike since the teachers unions demanded we shut down schools so that teachers could feel like the Laptop Class.

The NYT reports on young people reverting to more immature, childlike states of develpment. This article tastelessly focuses on the plight of our poor "burned-out" Educators and School Administrators and Guidance Counselors -- won't you consider our Most Precious Natural Resources? -- but I'll excerpt around that to focus on the damage the teachers-unions-demanded lockdowns and masking regime have caused to children.

I can't believe that in this story they had to pack in the current Teachers Union propaganda point that teachers are "burned out" and need more "resources," but there you go. All stories about children will ultimately be turned into stories about giving teachers more time off and more money.

Nationally, the high school-age group has reported some of the most alarming mental health declines, evidenced by depression and suicide attempts. Adolescents have failed classes critical to their futures at higher rates than in previous years, affecting graduations and college prospects...
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By December, referrals for the school's Student Assistance Program -- in which teams of counselors and administrators coordinate resources for troubled students -- had reached 300, compared with a total of 500 for the entire 2019-20 school year. At a recent meeting, where administrators sifted through their caseloads of "sapped" students, they described them in blunt terms: "feral," "a mess" and "work in progress."
"I think kids are just feeling like -- after witnessing Trump, political unrest, what happened in the streets with Black Lives Matter, now the pandemic -- the world's out of control," Dr. Bailey said. "So they're like, 'The world's out of control, why should I be in control?'"

Note that they blame this on Trump, but exclude teachers and teachers unions shutting down the schools and demanding dehumanizing masking policies as possible causes of stress and socialization problems.

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"For the teachers, like all of us, they're here for the kids, not the money," Dr. Bailey said. "So to have a higher number of kids you can't reach, it's intense."

Yeah we've repeatedly seen how "for the kids" you guys are.

Say, how are you enjoying you Fridays Off program? Is that helping you restore your inner calm?

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And while much attention has been paid to besieged superintendents and burned-out teachers, the responsibility to restore a sense of normalcy has largely fallen on principals.

So this is what I'm talking about, the article keeps saying "Let's stop talking about the trauma these kids are dealing with, let's talk about the teachers. No wait, we've talked a lot about teachers, let's talk about principals now."

No, let's go back to the kids -- what the teachers say they're all about. Remember?

You can tell that the sources for this article kept bringing the subject back to their problems as "educators."

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Last year, 66 percent of students did hybrid learning, and more than 33 percent went completely virtual. Students and educators use terms like "re-entry," "recivilizing" and "reintegrating" to describe the transition back to a more normal routine. Covid restrictions still prevent full engagement. Masks have encouraged anonymity and discouraged dialogue.
"People don't know how to communicate anymore," said Jazlyn Korpics, 18, a senior at Liberty. "Everybody's a robot now -- their minds are warped."

Totally normal for young children and teenagers to not see human faces for one half of each day. I'm sure that has no detrimental effect on the development of the parts of their brains devoted to recognizing faces and facial expressions.

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Josiah Correa, 18, said that while he was a senior at Liberty, "every day it feels like I'm starting a new school."

This is a little worrisome: Ninth graders playing gradeschool games.

For Nikolas Tsamoutalidis, an assistant principal, the most vivid image of the post-pandemic student body was at lunch this year, when he saw ninth graders -- whose last full year in school was seventh grade -- preparing to play "Duck, Duck, Goose." "It's like fifth or sixth graders," he said, "but in big bodies."

Hopefully they were just doing that to be silly.

Students are failing academically, so word has gone out: "get creative" to pass them by hook or by crook.

There were 185 students failing 348 classes and tension over what to communicate to teachers with the highest numbers of failing students.
"Tell them you have the freedom to be creative," Dr. Bailey told his team. Do what you have to do to get students to pass.
"I'm concerned we're going to give the impression that all kids deserve to pass," one of his colleagues shot back.
The school district had proposed a plan, based on an increase of "volatile incidents," to transfer students to online schooling as an alternative to expulsion.
"It's anti-academic, and honestly this is about trying to salvage an environment for adults," an assistant principal said of the plan.

All of this wasn't even done to "Save Grandma" -- it was done to Get Trump.

Trump said "the cure must not be worse than the disease." The political attack on him became, "Trump is not taking a maximalist approach on covid; he's treating other factors as if other factors must also be considered in designing our covid policy. To attack Trump, we must take a contrary position, and that contrary position is, No other factors matter. Only stopping covid matters. Everything else, from the economy to normal child intellectual and social development, must be sacrificed for a "zero covid policy," because we must take the opposite position to Trump in order to denigrate the sensible position he has taken."

And thus, the "Smart, Virtuous, Pro-Science People" on both the left and pseudoright gladly sacrificed a generation of children to win (or, "win") the 2020 elections, and then told themselves they were Good and Virtuous for having done so.

Even AllahPundit seems to be conceding this now -- while not admitting his own role in propagandizing for the "Only Covid Matters, We Must Be All-In On Covid to Be All-In On NeverTrump" position that has stunted the development of a generation of children.

He's just kind of pretending "Hey I've always been skeptical of this stuff." Like David French and Jonah Goldberg would later pretend to have always been skeptical of RussiaGate.

�They will be paying for our generation�s decisions the rest of their lives�: @JanCBS explains why she thinks 2021's biggest underreported story was the devastating impact of COVID policies on children pic.twitter.com/AUU1f6AFNi
— Face The Nation (@FaceTheNation) December 26, 2021

Posted by: Ace at 03:27 PM

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 28, 2021 03:27 PM (bVYXr)

2 It's almost like the Bloombergs and Epsteins have a uniquely evil tendency to destroy childhood and innocence wherever they can.

Posted by: trev006 at December 28, 2021 03:28 PM (TdMOA)

3 Why the sudden shift from keeping stuff opened and concentrating on hospitalizations/deaths instead of case count?

Are the democrats (biden) losing the narrative?

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 28, 2021 03:28 PM (bVYXr)

4 Glad to finally see someone the MSM acknowledge what I've been very upset about for the last 18 months. A bit late to the party, though. Damage is done. But yay for your bravery, firefighter.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 28, 2021 03:30 PM (cSs/W)

5
The professional careers of those who promulgated and enforced these horrors will not be affected one whit.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 28, 2021 03:30 PM (/U27+)

6 My latest theory is that covid and thge vaccines are part of a plot to tenderize us for the coming Aliens From Space Invasion
They're coming to serve man

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at December 28, 2021 03:30 PM (tC/iN)

7 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 28, 2021 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)

8 As easy as it is to attack teachers and teachers unions, ultimately the blame lies with the parents who allowed this to occur.

Little Johnny can't read after a year of online schooling? Why the fuck weren't you taking a more active role in teaching him to read? Ditto basic math.

Why didn't you insist on encouraging kids to socialize outside of school? Invite friends over, let them play. Talk to other parents and work out small groups that way the kids get interaction and if you're really worried about COVID any spread will be contained.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 28, 2021 03:31 PM (wmDcS)

9 OT: Good. Houston beat Auburn. I'm neutral towards both teams but it's good to see a team from the conference of misfit schools beat an SEC team. Ok, probably a mean thing to say about the AAC or whatever it's called. I've lost track with all the different conferences and school moves.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 28, 2021 03:31 PM (sAmhv)

10 "The risk of suicide girl suicide..."

You said suicide twice.

They like suicide.

I denounce myself.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2021 03:31 PM (UuD2k)

11 covid is over, Karen.
time for you to stfu for 2 years.

Posted by: x at December 28, 2021 03:32 PM (oA+QO)

12 Abortion is a thing. The 'adults' in this world are so incredibly selfish it's amazing ANYONE actually thinks they give a flying fuck about children.

It's ALWAYS about 'the children,' but they are ALWAYS the first to get screwed. Figuratively and too often, literally.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 28, 2021 03:32 PM (Zz0t1)

13 >>>8 As easy as it is to attack teachers and teachers unions, ultimately the blame lies with the parents who allowed this to occur.

True, Suburban Karen was also All-In on Covid Because Trump.

Posted by: ace at December 28, 2021 03:32 PM (0G13K)

14 This is a little worrisome: Ninth graders playing gradeschool games.

I know, right? What good is it to keep them young mentally if they still mature physically? The hormone therapy is important, too!

Posted by: The Lincoln Project at December 28, 2021 03:32 PM (P1f+c)

15 I just hate sequels! #HotZone #NotAgain

twitter.com/songpinganq/status/1475909384727580673

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at December 28, 2021 03:32 PM (MFZ8i)

16 Are the democrats (biden) losing the narrative?
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 28, 2021 03:28 PM (bVYXr)

Biden needs a "win," combined with increasing pushback from Dem pols worried about the election, and fear that any extreme COVID measures will push the economy into worse inflation and supply chain troubles. With BBB dead, there's no need for the COVID boogyman anymore.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 28, 2021 03:32 PM (wmDcS)

17 Close the schools. Do it for the children.

Posted by: Karens everywhere at December 28, 2021 03:33 PM (jYQlA)

18 Teachers get paid quite well. Enough of this nonsense that teachers "don't care about the money".

When you include guaranteed pensions and healthcare, effectively 100% job security, 2-3 months off every year along with the salary, there's not a school district of teachers in the country that doesn't make more in total compensation than the median income of the surrounding area - often much more.

Posted by: James at December 28, 2021 03:33 PM (YH6PF)

19 alex you know most parents work, and most parents pay taxes so that someone else does the job of schooling their children, right?

If teachers aren't going to do the jobs that parents are paying them to do through taxes, what are they paying taxes for?

Posted by: ace at December 28, 2021 03:33 PM (0G13K)

20 flounder,
Are you getting over here this week?

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 28, 2021 03:28 PM (II5RE)

No. Not with family and not this week. Next week. Then, immediately heading to the SW with my brother to visit my nonagenarian Grandma and Mom. The plans to visit with fam have not materialized and may move to January. I'll let you know when I do.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:34 PM (SH2Zi)

21 These kids can always become Brawndo salesmen. It's what plants crave.

Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2021 03:34 PM (Ti+Tv)

22 Wait, so they're "burned out" from having to work from home, so they need more time off, at home?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2021 03:34 PM (UuD2k)

23 "People don't know how to communicate anymore," said Jazlyn Korpics, 18, a senior at Liberty. "Everybody's a robot now -- their minds are warped."

Now, that's some wisdom from a young person. We were struggling with that pre-Covid, and this era's insanity has just exacerbated the problem. And it's a problem across age groups, so we can't even say it's just kids...

Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 03:35 PM (exHjb)

24 15 I just hate sequels! #HotZone #NotAgain

twitter.com/songpinganq/status/1475909384727580673
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe

wow, that is frightening

Posted by: ace at December 28, 2021 03:35 PM (0G13K)

25 22 Wait, so they're "burned out" from having to work from home, so they need more time off, at home?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2021 03:34 PM (UuD2k)

That's their story, and they're sticking with it.

Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2021 03:35 PM (Ti+Tv)

26 Murthy stressed -- spun -- that suicide and depression have been going up in young people for forty years, but we're seeing a sudden sharp spike since the teachers unions demanded we shut down schools so that teachers could feel like the Laptop Class.
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This is true. Both points are true. Youth suicide has been increasing sharply since the advent of social media and it's gone gangbusters during COVID. Youth suicide is a multivariant problem, but one simple fact always remains true: if your kids are killing themselves, your society is broken.

And the first thing you should stop doing if your society is broken is breaking it further.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2021 03:35 PM (DU+/6)

27 6 My latest theory is that covid and thge vaccines are part of a plot to tenderize us for the coming Aliens From Space Invasion
They're coming to serve man

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at December 28, 2021 03:30 PM (tC/iN)

+++
Nothing, and I mean nothing would surprise me anymore. Everything is on the table - except for me. I haven't been "vaxxed."

Posted by: washrivergal at December 28, 2021 03:36 PM (/3udR)

28 Even if you "followed the science," every single measure came at the expense of the least vulnerable to save the--often self-inflicted via co-morbidity--most vulnerable.

Those most likely to die were asked to do the least.

Posted by: Lrrr at December 28, 2021 03:36 PM (U2l/P)

29 Education Degrees are the Bread and Butter of the University Scam.

Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2021 03:36 PM (YZdjV)

30 At least we'll be getting a refund on our property taxes for the periods when the schools were shut down.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2021 03:36 PM (UuD2k)

31 I've been saying for a while along with everybody here - we're about to create an entire generation of sociopaths. These are their most formative years, and their best years. 2 years is for-fucking-ever when you're 10.

The reality of this literally sank in back in March 2020 during the initial "2 weeks" panic. I was standing in line on my designated sticker, and some gal had a baby in a cart in front of me. The baby was looking at me - and normally being a goofball I'd be making faces at the baby. I couldn't. We both blankly stared at each other. That's when I knew these kids were toast if this went on for many more months. And here it is 2 years later, that kid is a toddler. And still looking at only eyes staring back.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 28, 2021 03:36 PM (wAnMi)

32 "I think kids are just feeling like -- after witnessing Trump, political unrest, what happened in the streets with Black Lives Matter, now the pandemic -- the world's out of control," Dr. Bailey said. "So they're like, 'The world's out of control, why should I be in control?'"
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You'd better damn well hope you're right about that, Dr. Bailey. Because a whole helluva lot of them are probably thinking, "The world's out of control because they all failed, so why shouldn't I be in control by any means necessary?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2021 03:36 PM (DU+/6)

33 If teachers aren't going to do the jobs that parents are paying them to do through taxes, what are they paying taxes for?
Posted by: ace at December 28, 2021 03:33 PM (0G13K)

An excellent question, but many if not most homeschoolers are taking that hit because they care about their children's education. "Asian" parents will be particularly open to this thinking once they learn contempt for the feds.

Posted by: trev006 at December 28, 2021 03:36 PM (TdMOA)

34 Teachers are basically a Virus at this point.

Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2021 03:37 PM (YZdjV)

35 Kills me to see kids getting off school busses alone and still wearin masks

Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 28, 2021 03:37 PM (/E62I)

36 Yeah I know you know that, but do you think CBS "News'" viewers know that?

How would they know? There's literally no way for that message to reach them.

Posted by: CBS News' Jan Crawford at December 28, 2021 03:37 PM (pbStR)

37 Nary a thought to trade-offs.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 28, 2021 03:37 PM (m/Gc2)

38 "We've Sacrificed a Generation of Kids on the Altar of Covid"

Who is "we", white man?

Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 03:37 PM (VpIIl)

39 Apparently you have to have many years of college to square the fact that solitary confinement has been a singular punishment in prisons for centuries and that basically doing the same thing to an entire nation full of people is a good idea.

"Murthy stressed -- spun -- that suicide and depression have been going up in young people for forty years,..."

Gosh, why is that I wonder? Maybe we need to run more media spots on how global warming is going to destroy the planet.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 28, 2021 03:37 PM (W3VUu)

40 Are the educators who've insisted on remote schooling and face masks the same ones who have said home schooling is bad because of reasons including socialization?

Posted by: N.L. Urker at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (eGTCV)

41 "But yes indeed, we have absolutely crushed the young to save the Laptop Class"

"Laptop Class"? You misspelled "Chinese."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (p+1gI)

42 18 Teachers get paid quite well. Enough of this nonsense that teachers "don't care about the money".

When you include guaranteed pensions and healthcare, effectively 100% job security, 2-3 months off every year along with the salary, there's not a school district of teachers in the country that doesn't make more in total compensation than the median income of the surrounding area - often much more.
Posted by: James at December 28, 2021 03:33 PM (YH6PF)

It's pretty apparent from the glut of people trying to be teachers that they are overpaid. Except for advanced mathematics/science, where there are more jobs than would-be employees (probably because they get paid the same as language arts teachers). This is exactly what we'd expect out of a unionized market.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (z5Vrg)

43

I volunteer to help socialize a fair number of those 18-year-old senior girls, get them ready for the real world, teach them some valuable life skills... It's a burden, but I'm a giver...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (WRur9)

44 I saw that vid the other day, had no idea they edited it out. But of course they did. Think about that though, CBS by editing it is saying they don't give a shit about the kids either.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (coYBh)

45 Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 28, 2021 03:31 PM (wmDcS)

Yes and no. Most homes require both parents to work. Sad but true. If anything I see a lot of parents seeing what is being taught and taking an active role for the first time.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (9eRH/)

46 And people don't understand how narrow a time window there is for making certain adjustments in ones thinking and emotions.

My parents moved me to the country side away from all my friends. It wasn't far but with no transport it might have well been on the moon. I had a year away from them then in Junior high was back. And it was totally different. I was a stranger to them and they to me.

We know each others names and a few generalities but there were no summers running around or getting in with the girl down the street. All that possibility was gone and I couldn't get it back because all in all I was still living in the country.

1 freeking year was all it took. So this disruption of a couple years is a bigger deal than some want to let it.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (6R0HD)

47 come on, what country doesn't borrow 2-3 years of gross domestic product, or just print it, so that the mentally ill don't get a cold.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (ZZK0E)

48 We here at Franzia are doing our part to ensure educators across the nation have the essential support needed to perform their critical duties.

Posted by: Franzia Boxed Wine at December 28, 2021 03:39 PM (4I/2K)

49 "People don't know how to communicate anymore," said Jazlyn Korpics, 18, a senior at Liberty. "Everybody's a robot now -- their minds are warped."
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And those are teenagers. They've more or less grown up. Middle and later teens aren't adults, but they're closer to adult than they are to child. If it's bad for teenagers, then I reckon it's got to be *really* bad for littler kids.

But we can all rest easy because Fauci insists there are no known deleterious side effects from removing faces and normal human interaction from children's development. All of this has some other cause, I'm sure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2021 03:39 PM (DU+/6)

50 43 I volunteer to help socialize a fair number of those 18-year-old senior girls, get them ready for the real world, teach them some valuable life skills... It's a burden, but I'm a giver...
Posted by: Dirty Frank at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (WRur9)

2 hours of studies, and 22 hours of punishment.

Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2021 03:39 PM (Ti+Tv)

51 I volunteer to help socialize a fair number of those 18-year-old senior girls, get them ready for the real world, teach them some valuable life skills... It's a burden, but I'm a giver...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (WRur9)

You sound like you'd fit right in at CNN.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:39 PM (SH2Zi)

52 Anyway regarding this topic specifically. They destroyed a generation because they were afraid.

A lot of people need to lose their jobs, be brought up on charges and worse.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 28, 2021 03:39 PM (9eRH/)

53 Mentally ill parents want to project that onto their kids because otherwise it will make them feel worse about themselves. If their kids are crazy too well then they couldn't help it, its destiny and genetics! If their kids are normal then its their fault they are crazed and not coping.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 03:39 PM (KZzsI)

54 The massive-scale child abuse, and the complete indifference of the Karen Klass, is one of the most depressing aspects of this whole shit show.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 28, 2021 03:39 PM (njfCw)

55 hat tip to check ryan long newest little video, rightwing sponsors v leftwing sponsors. even glenn greenwald found it apt

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (ZZK0E)

56 Pretty sure that the biggest underreported story of 2021 is still that the USA has a retard with dementia in charge and he can authorize a nuclear strike, but sure, your thing is big too.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (UuD2k)

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Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (a0fIE)

58 I watched my cousin's somewhat off balance wife ruin her daughters for that exact reason: see, its not my fault, they're a mess too!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (KZzsI)

59 I agree COVID policy has negatively impacted children.

But it's a drop in the bucket compared to technology, which has largely crippled all of humanity.

The best 40 days of my year are the 40 days I've taken off from social media each year for Lent.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (Pgx49)

60 Who is "we"?

Leftists never take responsibility for their actions and always sound surprised when they finally figure out what the rest of us were telling them 2 years ago.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (ZLI7S)

61 All of this wasn't even done to "Save Grandma" -- it was done to Get Trump.

And yet, next year, not only will people vote to reward the useless, pathetic grifters who, at the least, stood by with thumbs up their asses while a presidential election was stolen in broad daylight and, at the worst, actively colluded with a treasonous military establishment, media and opposition party to oust a legitimately elected president whose only crime was shattering their rice bowls. . .

This very site will be packed stem to stern with people insisting that we must vote for these assholes because the consequences of not electing them would be so much worse.

If that isn't cause to take the damned gas pipe, I don't know what is.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (2JVJo)

62 9th graders playing duck duck goose is strange. I don't recall playing that past maybe second or third grade.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (oeVy+)

63 1 freeking year was all it took. So this disruption of a couple years is a bigger deal than some want to let it.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (6R0HD)

Life as a military brat is every 3-4 years.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:41 PM (SH2Zi)

64 alex you know most parents work, and most parents pay taxes so that someone else does the job of schooling their children, right?

That's bullshit and a large part of why schools are such basket cases. Too many parents foisted their kids onto school systems and walked away. The expect teachers to raise their children for them, and are then shocked that their kids turn out horribly. A good teacher is valuable, but can only be effective if there's a strong foundation at home. If mom and dad don't care whether junior knows how to read or do math, and aren't willing to put in the time to make sure that he does, then the best teacher in the world isn't going to have much success.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 28, 2021 03:41 PM (wmDcS)

65 Fuck the Teachers Union and fuck the politicians who tow the line for them.

Teachers have one of the best jobs. They get more vacation time then any other profession. They get off 2-3 weeks for Christmas, all summer and all the other paid holidays. They have plenty of resources and lots of sick days, etc. give me a break.

They want to be referred to as professionals but good luck firing a bad teacher. They can be moved around but not fired, even for cause.

As a public defender the burn out rate is much higher and I do not get even close to the amount of time teachers get off to recharge their
Batteries. And I can be fired for any
Reason.

So over the whining and fear. Do your job and stop acting like teachers are so brave and special.

Posted by: Czech Chick at December 28, 2021 03:41 PM (haWye)

66 At least we'll be getting a refund on our property taxes for the periods when the schools were shut down.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

It pains one even more if your last child aged out of the system 10 years ago. . .

Grrrrrrr.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2021 03:41 PM (mD/uy)

67 Who cares about CBS?

Posted by: Just Wondering at December 28, 2021 03:41 PM (jYQlA)

68 >> A good teacher is valuable,

Sure. But there are cheaper muches available to the home gardener.

Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2021 03:42 PM (YZdjV)

69 and then cue some "hurr durr" blue check mark trying to own the cons by making some asinine statement about science and polar bears, er ... grandma..that's it this time.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:42 PM (ZZK0E)

70 "Boy, I can't believe people don't know about this!"

Posted by: Journalists at December 28, 2021 03:42 PM (8eSmR)

71 59 I agree COVID policy has negatively impacted children.

But it's a drop in the bucket compared to technology, which has largely crippled all of humanity.

The best 40 days of my year are the 40 days I've taken off from social media each year for Lent.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (Pgx49)

Amen...that has been the biggest issue...and the reliance on technology for all young education/entertainment/time just took it into overdrive...

Add the cancel culture that only exists in the internet (aka tech) world, and you cause kids to doubt any ability to communicate truth to each other...

Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 03:42 PM (exHjb)

72 Most people in normal areas are not masked up and are growing up socially. It's the libtard areas with mask mandates that will be socially retarded. The hot civil war will need to cull them out, or they'll just slowly die off by attrition thru gang warfare and such.

Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2021 03:42 PM (Ti+Tv)

73 68 >> A good teacher is valuable,

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a good brain is better.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:42 PM (ZZK0E)

74 Life as a military brat is every 3-4 years.
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Yep, but we still were able to socialize.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at December 28, 2021 03:42 PM (yp9Q/)

75 24 15 I just hate sequels! #HotZone #NotAgain

twitter.com/songpinganq/status/1475909384727580673
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe

wow, that is frightening
Posted by: ace

The Winter Olympics are in China. Gonna cancel them, right?

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 28, 2021 03:42 PM (sAmhv)

76 You sound like you'd fit right in at CNN.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:39 PM (SH2Zi)
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Nah. CNN types apparently like them *far* younger.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM (DU+/6)

77 wow, that is frightening

Posted by: ace at December 28, 2021 03:35 PM (0G13K)

Coming to a city near you.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM (SH2Zi)

78 CBS has this odd habit of hiring actual reporters.

Sharryl Atkisson also worked for them.

Posted by: fluffy at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM (UnQlg)

79 Maybe I'm too cynical for my own good, but it's hard to care about the plight of children. If their own parents don't care enough to insist on different policies, it's a lost cause.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM (QU5/8)

80 As easy as it is to attack teachers and teachers unions, ultimately the blame lies with the parents who allowed this to occur.

Little Johnny can't read after a year of online schooling? Why the fuck weren't you taking a more active role in teaching him to read? Ditto basic math.

Why didn't you insist on encouraging kids to socialize outside of school? Invite friends over, let them play. Talk to other parents and work out small groups that way the kids get interaction and if you're really worried about COVID any spread will be contained.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 28, 2021 03:31 PM (wmDcS)
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We did all of this. My wife left her job in order to supplement my kids' schooling. Its because of her that my son learned to read, not online "school". We let them socialize as much as we could too.

I think we helped mitigate a total disaster. The schools are all messed up. The kids are way behind. The schools / school board won't talk about learning loss. The grades are manipulated. It will be up to us to teach our kids.

The schools and the teachers unions deserve most (even close to all) of the blame.

Posted by: Revenant at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM (cOGHc)

81 Worst job in the military over the next 5 years will be recruiting. There just won't be a sufficient number of qualified applicants.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM (axyOa)

82 Fake The Nation is still on TV?

People are dumber than I thought.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM (w9H27)

83 At least we'll be getting a refund on our property taxes for the periods when the schools were shut down.

Don't forget the savings returned to you by defunding the police!

Posted by: t-bird at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM (CTJwJ)

84 Reposting from an earlier entry:

Speaking of teachers unions, they got NYS to cancel January's Regents examinations, for the second year in a row. I guess they don't want parents knowing what they already suspect: distance learning hasn't worked for public school students, and the Regents scores would prove this.

https://is.gd/My1HGe

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM (GDkuU)

85 Teachers get paid quite well. Enough of this nonsense that teachers "don't care about the money".

When you include guaranteed pensions and healthcare, effectively 100% job security, 2-3 months off every year along with the salary, there's not a school district of teachers in the country that doesn't make more in total compensation than the median income of the surrounding area - often much more.

Posted by: James at December 28, 2021 03:33 PM

Most K-12 teachers in the US are extremely well compensated. Defined benefit pensions with zero pay into social security, their retirement benefits are well in excess of what normal people get through mandatory social security contributions with lifetime subsidized health care and extremely good working conditions.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM (bVYXr)

86 Making Bill Ayers an education guru is working out great, no?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (y7DUB)

87 honestly, I remember growing up listening to my teachers talk about what life was like in pre-invasion America...specifically academia where a semester at harvard cost 50 bucks, there were only 100 colleges in the country, and you had to hand type every paper and you lost points for each grammatical and contextual error you made.

today's teachers are just babysitters

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (ZZK0E)

88 This very site will be packed stem to stern with people insisting that we must vote for these assholes because the consequences of not electing them would be so much worse.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (2JVJo)

What do you care? I'm sure Noah was surrounded by people who called him an idiot for building an ark. It might be useless, but it's hardly harmful enough to make you this bitter.

Posted by: trev006 at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (TdMOA)

89 Ace, these are great posts, but because of my limited intelligence my first and strongest reaction is usually "Fuck the Left". Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (Irn0L)

90 My latest theory is that covid and thge vaccines are part of a plot to tenderize us for the coming Aliens From Space Invasion
They're coming to serve man
Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at December 28, 2021 03:30 PM (tC/iN)

You guys are just Fun Size snacks. Last time we ate the dinosaurs.

Posted by: Aliens From Space at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (v0R5T)

91 OT: Good. Houston beat Auburn. I'm neutral towards both teams but it's good to see a team from the conference of misfit schools beat an SEC team. Ok, probably a mean thing to say about the AAC or whatever it's called. I've lost track with all the different conferences and school moves.
Posted by: Puddleglum at December 28, 2021 03:31 PM (sAmhv)

Not a bad description. AAC formed when the last musical chairs collapse and the end of the Big East left a few up and coming schools like Cincinnati out in the cold. None of the big conferences wanted decent teams over their current patsys. This time a good chunk of that conference will save the Big 12 from death in the next consolidation

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (eoQWY)

92 That's bullshit and a large part of why schools are such basket cases. Too many parents foisted their kids onto school systems and walked away. The expect teachers to raise their children for them, and are then shocked that their kids turn out horribly. A good teacher is valuable, but can only be effective if there's a strong foundation at home. If mom and dad don't care whether junior knows how to read or do math, and aren't willing to put in the time to make sure that he does, then the best teacher in the world isn't going to have much success.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 28, 2021 03:41 PM (wmDcS)

Amen - it should be parents 1st, Church 2nd, teachers 3rd (and the easiest to discard - see homeschoolers) for proper child education...

Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (exHjb)

93 My nephew in 9th grade, who is a bit touched on the spectrum says he never wants to go back to in person school. It was also hard on my niece who played water polo for 3 years and then got shut down. She decided she was not going to play in college after that. It's been a total shit show for kids

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (M+Lyo)

94 >>Worst job in the military over the next 5 years will be recruiting. There just won't be a sufficient number of qualified applicants.

They seem to be addressing this by changing the definition of "qualified".

Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (ZLI7S)

95 At least we'll be getting a refund on our property taxes for the periods when the schools were shut down.
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Yes, and all the businesses forced to "temporary" close and/or reduce capacity will be getting a refund as well.

Of course, the restaurant associations and Chamber of Commerce help with backing the takings litigation against all those illegal orders will lessen the sting too....

Posted by: Lrrr at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (U2l/P)

96 I agree COVID policy has negatively impacted children.

But it's a drop in the bucket compared to technology, which has largely crippled all of humanity.

The best 40 days of my year are the 40 days I've taken off from social media each year for Lent.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (Pgx49)
++++
I am not at all sure that "drop in the bucket" is correct. "It is the only problem" is also certainly incorrect. Youth suicide was climbing aggressively in the pre-COVID period, too. It's takeoff is loosely aligned with the rise of social media, which I think is another HUGE problem for mental health. There are lots of problems. Rather than trying to fix any of them, we just keep layering more problems onto it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (DU+/6)

97 >>Worst job in the military over the next 5 years will be recruiting.

Only because Admiral Rachel Levine isn't actually IN the military.

Posted by: Military Gyno at December 28, 2021 03:45 PM (YZdjV)

98 Every western country implemented the same policies.

Those policies failed in every western country, by any reasonable measure, and at astronomical cost.

This is the great failure of the west since 1453....but not from the perspective of the people implementing the policies.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2021 03:45 PM (ESjRY)

99 1 freeking year was all it took. So this disruption of a couple years is a bigger deal than some want to let it.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 28, 2021 03:38 PM (6R0HD)

Life as a military brat is every 3-4 years.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:41 PM (SH2Zi)

A child of divorced parents. I spent summers with Dad and School years with mom, who moved sis and me to another state right before I entered HS. Even when we all lived in the same state, friends from school were far enough away in the summers that it was often a chore to make arrangements to hang out. And it felt like I was the one who was always calling and trying to make plans.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 28, 2021 03:45 PM (wmDcS)

100 Yep, but we still were able to socialize.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at December 28, 2021 03:42 PM (yp9Q/)

For some values of "socialize."

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:45 PM (SH2Zi)

101 Our worthless media never considered the implications of the many triage units that were constructed and then disassembled, unused.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 28, 2021 03:45 PM (m/Gc2)

102 >>Worst job in the military over the next 5 years will be recruiting.

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i thought they were offering bluecheck gays the opportunity to bomb peoria? that's not working?

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:45 PM (ZZK0E)

103 Life as a military brat is every 3-4 years.
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Yep, but we still were able to socialize.
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at December 28, 2021 03:42 PM (yp9Q/)
***

And better than most.
The Daughters of Diogenes could move into any setting, meet new kids and stay in touch with friends from previous assignments. They have an incredible network.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 03:46 PM (axyOa)

104 Repost.

>>>Reminds me of Adam Carrola's theory about why they're determined to "get 'em young"

This is public education. Government indoctrination centers are not going to teach you to revere your freedoms over the benevolent hand of the state.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (SH2Zi)

105 The best 40 days of my year are the 40 days I've taken off from social media each year for Lent.

Take every Sunday off too. Once a week at least without it can be very refreshing

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (KZzsI)

106 It is a bit much to think that the inconvenience of this, of having kids stay out of school would matter that much.

There was ww1, ww2, the fall if the Roman empire, the dark ages, the plague, nobody was losing their shit over these and saying that entire generations were ruined.

The internets and social media have had, have, a far more harmful effect than the wuhanbola shit

Maybe there are just shitty parents?

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (lMmuq)

107 Anyway regarding this topic specifically. They destroyed a generation because they were afraid.

A lot of people need to lose their jobs, be brought up on charges and worse.
Posted by: thathalfrican

Simply ended. So we don't have to deal with them anymore.

Posted by: rickb223 Pureblood - non-GMO at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (uXonU)

108 Worst job in the military over the next 5 years will be recruiting. There just won't be a sufficient number of qualified applicants.

They seem to be addressing this by changing the definition of "qualified".
Posted by: JackStraw

"Hey Chief, what's this *pushes button* button for?

*SWOOOOSH*

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (mD/uy)

109 This was my number one reason I was against even the initial two week lockdown from the start. I knew we would never recover economically, but the psychological and social damage it is doing to the young'uns is my biggest gripe.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (QYPq3)

110 I grew up near an air base. You'd make a new Base Kid friend and then one day, poof! they were just gone and the teacher would explain that their father was transferred.

Sometimes they'd be back a few years later and it always felt weird. Hey, we used to be friends, then you were gone, now we're bigger and older...

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (njfCw)

111 The Daughters of Diogenes could move into any setting, meet new kids and stay in touch with friends from previous assignments. They have an incredible network.
Posted by: Diogenes
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Yeah, we weren't able to do that.

Then again, I don't remember a lot from my childhood, much less friends or teachers during that time.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (yp9Q/)

112 >> Repost.

>>>Reminds me of Adam Carrola's theory about why they're determined to "get 'em young"

This is public education.

Like I said. Teachers are essentially a Virus these days.

Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (YZdjV)

113 I watched my cousin's somewhat off balance wife ruin her daughters for that exact reason: see, its not my fault, they're a mess too!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (KZzsI)

That's sick.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 28, 2021 03:48 PM (Ez6QX)

114 Like David French and Jonah Goldberg would later pretend to have always been skeptical of ~~RussiaGate~~ sucking cocks.

FTFY Ace. Honest mistake.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 28, 2021 03:48 PM (eeRB6)

115 But if it saves 1 teacher's life.... brave teachers.... sacrificing so much to serve the children.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 28, 2021 03:48 PM (bKdTl)

116 Worst job in the military over the next 5 years will be recruiting. There just won't be a sufficient number of qualified applicants.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM

Trust me, there are always warm bodies out there to recruit. Granted you are going to have issues with finding Nuke qualified people to join though. You just jack up the enlistment bonus to compensate for that.

$40,000-$50,000 enlistment bonuses will bring qualified people in. And those $100,000 reenlistment bonuses will keep most of them in.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 28, 2021 03:48 PM (bVYXr)

117 My latest theory is that covid and thge vaccines are part of a plot to tenderize us for the coming Aliens From Space Invasion

The deep state does keep dropping hints that aliens are real and here.

I presumed originally it was just intended to be a distraction from the failures of the Biden junta but...they aren't pushing it like that is the case. One would expect, for example, making these stories the number one item on the FNM after Biden surrenders to COVID for example.

So, my next guess is they want to use the plot from The Watchmen comic. I do *not* believe there are sentient aliens the government knows about - but I am certain they'd be a convenient foil to implement a war economy around.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2021 03:48 PM (ESjRY)

118 Thankfully, CBS News wasn't in on the fear pr0n.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 28, 2021 03:48 PM (XSRBF)

119 That's why we shouldn't have to teach on Fridays!

Posted by: Portland's Opressed, Burned-Out Teachers! at December 28, 2021 03:49 PM (I2/tG)

120 "It's pretty apparent from the glut of people trying to be teachers that they are overpaid"

Complete horseshit. I have teachers in my family who work harder then anyone I know. School may end at 3:30, but that's not when works stops. Often it's weekends and holidays. Meetings during breaks. Summers are never completely free.

A big part of the problem is compensation. There really isn't "merit" pay for teachers who excel. It's mostly one size fits all Marxism pay, with incentives to be a liberal.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 03:49 PM (VpIIl)

121 So let's do away with grades or the terrorists win.

Posted by: Regular joe at December 28, 2021 03:50 PM (L9P9s)

122 The deep state does keep dropping hints that aliens are real and here.

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meh. it goes 2 ways, rigfht?

either there's some signal from alpha centauri that we think is a message. and who cares because 17 lightyears away...or some mambajamba super aliens actually managed to travel here and, well, fuckit, game over.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:50 PM (ZZK0E)

123 As a Navy brat, I went to a new school every year for 5 straight years and look at me! I turned out great.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2021 03:50 PM (UuD2k)

124 You can trust us, we're CBS.

Posted by: Dan Rather at December 28, 2021 03:50 PM (jYQlA)

125 78 CBS has this odd habit of hiring actual reporters.

Sharryl Atkisson also worked for them.
Posted by: fluffy at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM (U

And getting rid of them when they start reporting on the stuff that goes against The Narrative.

Posted by: Buzzion at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (G2zl5)

126 They went from 'Do it for the children' to 'Do it to the children' and never even batted an eye all because of TDS.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (qZdIZ)

127 The internets and social media have had, have, a far more harmful effect than the wuhanbola shit

Maybe there are just shitty parents?
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (lMmuq)

Of course there are shitty parents. Time was, though, people called them on it, and society tried to encourage them to be better. Now, the state encourages the worst.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (eoQWY)

128 Heh. Watching a KISS documentary for no reason other than YT recommended it.

When KISS hired Ace Frehley, who is part Native American, Peter Criss, never a mental giant, went home and told his wife: "You're not gonna believe this! We just hired a Chinese guy on lead guitar!"

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (njfCw)

129 I knew we would never recover economically, but the psychological and social damage it is doing to the young'uns is my biggest gripe.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (QYPq3)

yes. I had a vision of millions of schoolkids wearing masks and wondered how this would wreck their brains.

Posted by: kallisto at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (DJFLF)

130 The deep state does keep dropping hints that aliens are real and here

No, they just toss some bs out every now and then

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (lMmuq)

131 NASA is studying the implications on diversity if the Covenant started glassing various cities around the globe.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (ZZK0E)

132 You can trust us, we're CBS.
Posted by: Dan Rather at December 28, 2021 03:50 PM (jYQlA)
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Yup. You were the inescapable, permanent evidence that CBS stood for "Cock and Bull Story"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (DU+/6)

133 My mother-in-law is a retired teacher, and she was very much beloved by her students, mainly because I think she is true to her faith as a Christian, and that shone through to her students.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (yp9Q/)

134 120 A big part of the problem is compensation. There really isn't "merit" pay for teachers who excel. It's mostly one size fits all Marxism pay, with incentives to be a liberal.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 03:49 PM (VpIIl)

==========

Maybe it's the model of teaching that sucks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

135 But if it saves 1 teacher's life.... brave teachers.... sacrificing so much to serve the children.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

The woman who's child I watch is an el ed teacher. Most days, she is required to wear a tee-shirt (?!!) that says:

Peace
Love
Inclusion
Kindness
Diversity
Equality

There's no hope for them.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (mD/uy)

136 "Worst job in the military over the next 5 years will be recruiting. There just won't be a sufficient number of qualified applicants.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM "

Sarge, I have a great TDY for you. It's even local to your hometown.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (VpIIl)

137 either there's some signal from alpha centauri that we think is a message. and who cares because 17 lightyears away...or some mambajamba super aliens actually managed to travel here and, well, fuckit, game over.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:50 PM (ZZK0E)

4 light years away. Tau Ceti might be 17

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (eoQWY)

138 You know who else is here for the kids?

Posted by: CNN Producers at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (a3Q+t)

139 today's teachers are just babysitters

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (ZZK0E)

My honest assessment for homeschooling planning was four hours of instruction for a third grader. People with more knowledge said that I'd had overstimated by 100%. That's two hours of instruction and six hours of babysitting for a third grader. That, teaching to the LCD, CRT, and incessant sexualizing of children made homeschooling the easiest hard decision I have ever made. FUCK the teachers cabal and their petulant whining.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (SH2Zi)

140 @TheBabylonBee 1m

Ron DeSantis Dyes Hair, Gets Spray Tan In Preparation For 2024 Presidential Run #BestoftheBee2021

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (1t5dY)

141 120 "It's pretty apparent from the glut of people trying to be teachers that they are overpaid"

Complete horseshit. I have teachers in my family who work harder then anyone I know. School may end at 3:30, but that's not when works stops. Often it's weekends and holidays. Meetings during breaks. Summers are never completely free.

A big part of the problem is compensation. There really isn't "merit" pay for teachers who excel. It's mostly one size fits all Marxism pay, with incentives to be a liberal.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 03:49 PM (VpIIl)

There are far more people with teaching degrees trying to be teachers than teaching slots. Textbook union-created problem. I note your post doesn't actually dispute that statement.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (z5Vrg)

142 Learning is racist anyway. As long as the kids learn what their gender is and make a fully informed decision on their pronouns, we will count it as a win.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (bKdTl)

143 What do you care? I'm sure Noah was surrounded by people who called him an idiot for building an ark. It might be useless, but it's hardly harmful enough to make you this bitter.
Posted by: trev006 at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (TdMOA)

I've been bitter from birth. **smiles**

I 'care' because I think that voting for the GOP is, at this point, a useless endeavor and that it rewards a bunch of clowns who have done nothing to earn that vote. For the latest bit of bukakke theater, Jim Jordan is "promising" an investigation of Fauci if the GOP gets a majority. BFD - will you be sending him to jail? Will you be stripping him of his job and pension? Will you be doing anything other than making noise for the teevee?

To ask the question is to answer it. To expect the GOP to do anything to restore constitutional norms is like expecting your wife to dump the Paolo because you keep the house tidy and clean sheets on the bed for whenever she decides to come back to poor, faithful, idiot hubby.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (2JVJo)

144 9th graders playing duck duck goose is strange. I don't recall playing that past maybe second or third grade.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (oeVy+)

Well, to be honest, I was at a tailgate party last year. Ever see a bunch of highly inebriated adults play it? Good times...good times.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (axyOa)

145 Even AllahPundit seems to be conceding this now -- while not admitting his own role in propagandizing for the "Only Covid Matters, We Must Be All-In On Covid to Be All-In On NeverTrump" position that has stunted the development of a generation of children.

He's just kind of pretending "Hey I've always been skeptical of this stuff." Like David French and Jonah Goldberg would later pretend to have always been skeptical of RussiaGate. Ace

It occurs to me that if you didn't mention them, they would have no more space in my head than Jerry Kowfunski, garbage man from Toledo does.
I suppose it does you good to know how wrong those who think so highly of themselves actually are, but they're mostly dead to me. Still living, already forgotten.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (MFphb)

146 Of course there are shitty parents. Time was, though, people called them on it, and society tried to encourage them to be better. Now, the state encourages the worst.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (eoQWY)

Well, that's b/c the state offers to fully raise their kids with 3 meals/day and subsidized or free before/after care (to include summers) from 7:30am-6pm...parents may only see their kids awake for 1-2 hours, and never feed them...

Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 03:53 PM (exHjb)

147 93 My nephew in 9th grade, who is a bit touched on the spectrum says he never wants to go back to in person school. It was also hard on my niece who played water polo for 3 years and then got shut down. She decided she was not going to play in college after that. It's been a total shit show for kids

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 28, 2021 03:44 PM (M+Lyo)

Your niece is probably better off, as she'd end up getting thrashed by Tranny Annie and whatever other "girls" decided to play. Tell her to join the rifle team instead and get some practical skills.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 28, 2021 03:53 PM (lNHqD)

148 and I can't get over how Congress basically went for broke on each covid-stimulus pakcage. "we give each citizen $600 to tide them over, and then we give ourselves about $3 trillion" as if there's no possible negative outcome. Think of that, they were too dumb to care.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:53 PM (ZZK0E)

149 "Maybe it's the model of teaching that sucks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (LvTSG) "

Depends on where you are. In some districts, yes. But in others they have teaching models that not only span individual subjects, but the entire curriculum.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 03:53 PM (VpIIl)

150 Alpha centauri isn't particularly likely to have habitable planets due to its multi-star system but...I suppose who knows in the end.

Also, every "signal" we've gotten in the past that turned out to be something not-aliens got leaked right away.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2021 03:53 PM (ESjRY)

151 Of course there are shitty parents. Time was, though, people called them on it, and society tried to encourage them to be better. Now, the state encourages the worst.
Posted by: Oldcat at

The thought that a generaton of kids is ruined by not having daily indoctrination in school is a bit much

If they are ruined by being home for a year it is the parents

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 03:53 PM (lMmuq)

152 Think of that, they were too dumb to care.

I think they are fully aware of the economic damage, but are hoping they're out of office, retired, or dead by the time the hammer lands.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 03:54 PM (KZzsI)

153 Oh and the masks and indoctrinating them to be good, obedient, state-loving drones, too, played a large factor in deciding to homeschool.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:54 PM (SH2Zi)

154 149 "Maybe it's the model of teaching that sucks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 28, 2021 03:51 PM (LvTSG) "

Depends on where you are. In some districts, yes. But in others they have teaching models that not only span individual subjects, but the entire curriculum.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 03:53 PM (VpIIl)

=========

It's the classroom in general I'm talking about, the remnant of Prussian military education that we still use to this day.

Maybe that's a big part of the problem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 28, 2021 03:54 PM (LvTSG)

155
Well, to be honest, I was at a tailgate party last year. Ever see a bunch of highly inebriated adults play it? Good times...good times.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (axyOa)

You were inebriated. I bet that was funny. We drink and try to rope each other. Toe may toe/ toe mah toe.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 28, 2021 03:54 PM (oeVy+)

156 >>Well, to be honest, I was at a tailgate party last year. Ever see a bunch of highly inebriated adults play it? Good times...good times.

Depending on the number of ladies...

Pro Tip : Twister.

Posted by: garrett at December 28, 2021 03:55 PM (YZdjV)

157 woo hoo! My Ishapore is in at my FFL.

Gonna pick it up tomorrow. Fingers crossed that the headspacing is ok.

Got a case of steel-cased 7.62 to feed to it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 28, 2021 03:56 PM (eeRB6)

158 and now, here we are, America 3.0. 40% of dollars in existence were printed in the last year and 40% of "citizens" arrived in the last 20 years. wear that meatsuit.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:56 PM (ZZK0E)

159 "We"?
"Us"?!?

F$#@% off
YOU did it

Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 03:56 PM (URNdm)

160 Some of that stuff sounds like leftists arguments against home schooling.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 28, 2021 03:56 PM (63Dwl)

161
You were inebriated. I bet that was funny. We drink and try to rope each other. Toe may toe/ toe mah toe.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 28, 2021 03:54 PM (oeVy+)

(Jump to top of

In writing it is "tomato, tomato", spelling it differently ruins it

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 03:56 PM (lMmuq)

162 Also, every "signal" we've gotten in the past that turned out to be something not-aliens got leaked right away.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 28, 2021 03:53 PM (ESjRY)

Yeah, but considering the risk of anal probing, wouldn't you send out signals that looked "non-alien" to fool any aliens that might be listening.

I don't know why we aren't doing this ourselves.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2021 03:56 PM (UuD2k)

163 To ask the question is to answer it. To expect the GOP to do anything to restore constitutional norms is like expecting your wife to dump the Paolo

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (2JVJo)

Well, yes. But that's not just a fault of the GOP. The era of debt and kleptocracy is coming to an end. There's nothing more to reasonably steal.

Don't mourn the old era. Embrace the new.

Posted by: trev006 at December 28, 2021 03:56 PM (TdMOA)

164 One of the worst parts of this, besides the obvious first-order effects, is that none of the malefactors responsible for this will face a bit of recrimination.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (cSs/W)

165 "There are far more people with teaching degrees trying to be teachers than teaching slots. Textbook union-created problem. I note your post doesn't actually dispute that statement.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 03:52 PM (z5Vrg) "

Depends on where you are. Want a job in NYC? You can start tomorrow. Want one of the better paid local jobs in the suburbs? 50 applicants for each spot, easily- and they generally pick the best qualified, because they can afford to.

By the way, I can make the same argument for people with business degrees trying to get select jobs in capital markets.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (VpIIl)

166 never forget it was done to get Trump---and to usher in global warming policies.

Posted by: jeff at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (PTWlv)

167 If a homeschooler could suggest a homeschooler answer to paying teachers - do what we do for external classes and pay teachers by the class. What? Many couldn't stay employed financially as teachers? And some might have to turn down kids or make them wait b/c they are too popular? No kidding, but then the best people would be teaching and we'd have a heckuva next generation taught group of kids...

Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (exHjb)

168 Amazingly, these COVID crazy teachers, parents and bureaucrats would be the first one to call someone selfish for not wanting to wear a useless mask for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (uiMEx)

169 Drunk Lawn Darts > Drunk Duck-Duck-Goose

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (hhnTY)

170 40% of dollars in existence were printed in the last year

Don't worry - that will have no consequences.

Posted by: Zombie Milton Friedman! at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (I2/tG)

171 woo hoo! My Ishapore is in at my FFL.

Gonna pick it up tomorrow. Fingers crossed that the headspacing is ok.

Got a case of steel-cased 7.62 to feed to it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 28, 2021 03:56 PM (eeRB6)

Jealous. Have fun with it.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (SH2Zi)

172 I've said it a hundred times. These people are evil.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 28, 2021 03:58 PM (nxdel)

173 158 and now, here we are, America 3.0. 40% of dollars in existence were printed in the last year and 40% of "citizens" arrived in the last 20 years. wear that meatsuit.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 03:56 PM (ZZK0E)

Has to be an error in the math or description for the citizens there. Our population didn't increase 40% in the last 20 years.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 03:58 PM (z5Vrg)

174 People who think teachers work harder than anyone else hasn't actually I dunno seen other people at jobs. Being amazed that they work some of their three months off is not exactly an indication of hard working, for example.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 03:58 PM (KZzsI)

175 Yeah, we weren't able to do that.

Then again, I don't remember a lot from my childhood, much less friends or teachers during that time.
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His mercy at December 28, 2021 03:47 PM (yp9Q/)
***

That's a shame SMH.
Heck, I still FB and email with some of my kid's friends. Several went into the military and we shared some good chats over the years. Good to keep in touch. One kid is about to make general.
Damn. I'm way over 29.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 03:58 PM (axyOa)

176 By the way, I can make the same argument for people with business degrees trying to get select jobs in capital markets.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (VpIIl)

It's the same with law degrees. Basically teaching credentials, MBAs, JDs, etc all became fall-backs for people who didn't know where they wanted to go in life but were looking for a "safe" career path.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 28, 2021 03:59 PM (wmDcS)

177 No kidding, but then the best people would be teaching and we'd have a heckuva next generation taught group of kids...

Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (exHjb)

Won't anyone think of the lobbyists and their bought pols?

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:59 PM (SH2Zi)

178 woo hoo! My Ishapore is in at my FFL.

Funny that I understood every word. Even before reading the rest.

Posted by: rickb223 Pureblood - non-GMO at December 28, 2021 03:59 PM (uXonU)

179
We can be heroes, just for four days (a week)!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 28, 2021 03:59 PM (pNxlR)

180 153 Oh and the masks and indoctrinating them to be good, obedient, state-loving drones, too, played a large factor in deciding to homeschool.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:54 PM (SH2Zi)

I respect homeschoolers immensely. I wish more people had the fortitude to follow their example. Last year when the Coof lockdowns were just spooling up, some friends and I started a little side hustle as a "guest lecturers guild" for homeschool families. Between us we had history, math and English covered through high school level. We got a lot of interest, particularly from people who were really excited about getting their kids out of public schools. But then, when the schools reopened just the tiniest little bit, those same people packed their kids off to the indoctrination centers again and went back to sitting on the couch watching The View, without a moment's hesitation. Everybody says they'll do something until it's time to do it. A good example - go into a sports bar on game day and look at all those people in their sportsball shirts and hats and whatnot, who claimed a couple years ago that they were "done" with sports after all the kneeling bullshit.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 28, 2021 03:59 PM (lNHqD)

181

The only way to end racism is to keep fucking each other until we're all the same color...

Posted by: Dirty Frank at December 28, 2021 03:59 PM (x0zf6)

182 >>I've said it a hundred times. These people are evil.

Exactly.
And they are STILL DOING IT by now forcing unnecessary, dangerous vaccines on kids. Their risk is almost nil, apart from kids who are already sick or obese, by they force heathy ones to get injected with something that will cause heart problems, strokes, death.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (URNdm)

183 I've said it a hundred times. These people are evil.
Posted by: J

It is weird that you are saying that over and over

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (lMmuq)

184 MBAs, JDs, etc all became fall-backs for people who didn't know where they wanted to go in life but were looking for a "safe" career path.

But it does indicate that these jobs are viewed as viable and desirable positions, not overworked and underpaid.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (KZzsI)

185 40% of dollars in existence were printed in the last year

Coincides nicely with the toilet paper shortage eh?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (axyOa)

186 @167 And some might have to turn down kids or make them wait b/c they are too popular?

----

You mean, kind of like the charter schools in the documentary "Waiting for Superman"?

Posted by: junior at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (PTw5h)

187 Of course there are aliens. We have an Ewok running the blog. Who but an alien would forbid maple syrup on French Toast? And don't get me started on certain of the 'nics'.

And that's just in this place.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (a3Q+t)

188 179
We can be heroes, just for four days (a week)!

LOL!

"If you think about it, you get the same vacation time as a child." - N. MacDonald

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (njfCw)

189 'It's the classroom in general I'm talking about, the remnant of Prussian military education that we still use to this day.

Maybe that's a big part of the problem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 28, 2021 03:54 PM (LvTSG) '

Sometimes you don't get to choose the battlefield. But you can choose your tactics. In many places, liberals are winning the battle because people have ceded the field. But as more people get involved in their child's education, things will change in many places.

By thee way, I am not defending the status quo, useless teachers union. I am simply saying its not a one size fits all environment.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 04:01 PM (VpIIl)

190 The deep state does keep dropping hints that aliens are real and here.
.......

Haven't seen any green chicks yet.

Posted by: wth at December 28, 2021 04:01 PM (v0R5T)

191
Jealous. Have fun with it.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (SH2Zi)

I'm pretty sure he will.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 28, 2021 04:01 PM (Zz0t1)

192 Funny that I understood every word. Even before reading the rest.
Posted by: rickb223 Pureblood - non-GMO at December 28, 2021 03:59 PM (uXonU)

We're part of a special club. Possibly even including the short bus meaning of the word.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 28, 2021 04:01 PM (eeRB6)

193 Why on earth would you trust the government about aliens without irrefutable proof? If the government has not yet convinced you of its incompetence and mendacity, what would it take?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 28, 2021 04:01 PM (QU5/8)

194 If a homeschooler could suggest a homeschooler answer to paying teachers - do what we do for external classes and pay teachers by the class. What? Many couldn't stay employed financially as teachers? And some might have to turn down kids or make them wait b/c they are too popular? No kidding, but then the best people would be teaching and we'd have a heckuva next generation taught group of kids...
Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (exHjb)

I've long thought that we should move to a "one-room schoolhouse" model where kids from multiple years are in the same classroom, taught by the same teacher, and each teacher is basically an independent contractor who rents the space and bills the parents. The school administration basically handles the paperwork for the teacher.

For High Schoolers it would be different, but by the time they are entering high school the goal should be preparation for entering the workforce, not playing catch-up on stuff they should have already learned.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 28, 2021 04:01 PM (wmDcS)

195 Israel bombed the docks at Latakia, Syria a couple of nights ago.

The secondary explosions went on for hours, and it took a long time to bring the fires under control.

Maj. Mohannad Jafaar, head of the Latakia fire department, said 12 fire trucks worked for hours to contain the fire. He said the containers that were hit held spare auto parts and oil, but there were no casualties.

You get a lot of secondary explosions when auto parts go up...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 28, 2021 04:02 PM (I2/tG)

196 The thought that a generaton of kids is ruined by not having daily indoctrination in school is a bit much

If they are ruined by being home for a year it is the parents
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 03:53 PM (lMmuq)

School isn't supposed to be indoctrination. so there's a problem.

The government should be enforcing a quality education, weeding out the incompetents, so there's a problem.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:02 PM (eoQWY)

197 The most prevalent current version of the China-made virus, the co-called omicron, just gives most infected people cold symptoms.

It's not filling up hospital beds with deathly ill people, as the media seem to want to make everyone believe.

It's giving people runny noses and chills and muscle aches, which most people deal with at home, and get over in a few days.

So why is any of this shit still going on? There's no good reason to close schools, or make kids wear masks, or make them sit six feet apart outside in the cold to eat lunch.

This is literal insanity.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 28, 2021 04:02 PM (k4dH2)

198 Israel bombed the docks at Latakia, Syria a couple of nights ago.

The secondary explosions went on for hours, and it took a long time to bring the fires under control.

Maj. Mohannad Jafaar, head of the Latakia fire department, said 12 fire trucks worked for hours to contain the fire. He said the containers that were hit held spare auto parts and oil, but there were no casualties.

You get a lot of secondary explosions when auto parts go up...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 28, 2021 04:02 PM (I2/tG)

I blame those Teslas

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 28, 2021 04:03 PM (eeRB6)

199 Depends on where you are. Want a job in NYC? You can start tomorrow. Want one of the better paid local jobs in the suburbs? 50 applicants for each spot, easily- and they generally pick the best qualified, because they can afford to.

By the way, I can make the same argument for people with business degrees trying to get select jobs in capital markets.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (VpIIl)

I guess you can make some sort of argument if you go local enough, but the teacher imbalance isn't a new thing or secret. Urban areas being where they shift the bad/pedo teachers over time is it's own issue.

In general we have way more people with college degrees than there is a practical use for. Many jobs that don't need a college degree now ask for them. Teaching happens to have tons of non-math/science teachers because the pay and other perks of the job is artificially high(and low for people with math/science skills), which is because they're unionized.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 04:03 PM (z5Vrg)

200 You get a lot of secondary explosions when auto parts go up...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 28, 2021 04:02 PM (I2/tG)

They don't call them spark plugs lightly.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:03 PM (eoQWY)

201 Who exactly is the "Laptop Class." This is new term to me.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 28, 2021 04:03 PM (ju2Fy)

202
You get a lot of secondary explosions when auto parts go up...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 28, 2021 04:02 PM (I2/tG)

Who knew that the auto repair industry was sooooo strong in Syria.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 28, 2021 04:03 PM (Zz0t1)

203 186 @167 And some might have to turn down kids or make them wait b/c they are too popular?

----

You mean, kind of like the charter schools in the documentary "Waiting for Superman"?
Posted by: junior at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (PTw5h)

Sort of, but since you are paying each teacher by the class, you probably wouldn't get shut out of all the external classes you'd want, so you'd only be waiting for certain things, not everything...

But give parents the money, have them pay the teachers, and torch the administration - I mean, teachers could bond together and find one admin/tech guy to run their "sign up" sites and their physical or virtual locations, but that's about all you need (or all the admin homeschool co-op groups use)...

Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 04:03 PM (exHjb)

204 For High Schoolers it would be different, but by the time they are entering high school the goal should be preparation for entering the workforce, not playing catch-up on stuff they should have already learned.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

But. . . but. . . but. . . that would cut into the revenue generated by our remedial reading and math classes required of many of our incoming freshmen.

- - - THE Ohio State University Regents

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2021 04:04 PM (mD/uy)

205 167 If a homeschooler could suggest a homeschooler answer to paying teachers - do what we do for external classes and pay teachers by the class. What? Many couldn't stay employed financially as teachers? And some might have to turn down kids or make them wait b/c they are too popular? No kidding, but then the best people would be teaching and we'd have a heckuva next generation taught group of kids...

Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 03:57 PM (exHjb)

The independent contractor model is the best way. Performance-based for the teacher. See my response at 180. We tried something similar but without enough critical mass to get it off the ground. Yet.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 28, 2021 04:04 PM (lNHqD)

206

An occasional goose offers some variety...

Posted by: Duck Fucker at December 28, 2021 04:04 PM (x0zf6)

207 I am convinced that many people who hear the words COvid-19 think its the black death and we're all going to die an awful lingering death unless the government saves us. They think most people who get it die. They think that not wearing a mask kills grandma and little Joey/Janey/they haven't decided on their pronouns yet. They think the death toll is like eight million in the USA.

They don't know or care about how bad the strain is, only that it exists and its a death sentence.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:04 PM (KZzsI)

208 201 Who exactly is the "Laptop Class." This is new term to me.

People who were able to work from home from the beginning of the plandemic and never missed any work or income.

Which includes me, but I'm not one of them.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 28, 2021 04:04 PM (njfCw)

209 Auto parts blowing up in Syria must be why it's taking 11 days to get my pan gasket and filter from Minnesota.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 28, 2021 04:05 PM (Zz0t1)

210 Maj. Mohannad Jafaar, head of the Latakia fire department, said 12 fire trucks worked for hours to contain the fire. He said the containers that were hit held spare auto parts and oil, but there were no casualties.

You get a lot of secondary explosions when auto parts go up...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 28, 2021 04:02 PM

It took a piss ton to put it out.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 28, 2021 04:05 PM (a3Q+t)

211 If that isn't cause to take the damned gas pipe, I don't know what is.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 28, 2021 03:40 PM (2JVJo)

It's not enough. You know it.
Society may go to shit, after all, people run that. But the world is worth being in. Sunrises, sunsets, the smell of spring flowers. The sound of waves lapping at the shore, or a burbling brook in the woods as sunlight filters through the trees. Small moments make life worth living and clear out the debris.
Well, it works for me. YMMV

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2021 04:05 PM (MFphb)

212 This Asian girl at the beech is glad she grow up pre-COVID and so was only damaged by all of the other shit we do instead all of that *plus* COVID:
https://is.gd/VnPHvX

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 28, 2021 04:05 PM (DU+/6)

213 Who knew that the auto repair industry was sooooo strong in Syria.

All those Syrian restoration shows on Youtube. Muhammad Muhammed el-Mohammad is rebuilding a classic Charger restomod!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:05 PM (KZzsI)

214 >>I've said it a hundred times. These people are evil.

Exactly.
And they are STILL DOING IT by now forcing unnecessary, dangerous vaccines on kids. Their risk is almost nil, apart from kids who are already sick or obese, by they force heathy ones to get injected with something that will cause heart problems, strokes, death.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (URNdm)

They started by normalizing infanticide. Hard to be shocked by anything after that horror.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:06 PM (eoQWY)

215 Auto parts blowing up in Syria must be why it's taking 11 days to get my pan gasket and filter from Minnesota.

In fairness, Minnesota/ Somalia

Tomato, tomato

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:06 PM (lMmuq)

216
"Worst job in the military over the next 5 years will be recruiting. There just won't be a sufficient number of qualified applicants.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 03:43 PM "

As I recall from some long-ago conversations with my old chain of command, recruiting has always been the shittiest job in the military, and a destroyer of NCO career progression.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 28, 2021 04:06 PM (n+4am)

217 Wow. UCLA, scheduled to start the Holiday Bowl against NC State in four hours, has withdrawn due to Chinese Root Rot.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 28, 2021 04:06 PM (sWM8x)

218 The reason children are facing a massive surge in suicide rates is because ignorant, bigoted Trump supporters can't handle the winds of change. The number of queer and trans children was always 45%; we refuse to let these beautiful voices be silenced like they've been silenced since the Great Satan America was allowed to exist.

Do I really need a sarc tag?

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at December 28, 2021 04:07 PM (BCSAN)

219 But it does indicate that these jobs are viewed as viable and desirable positions, not overworked and underpaid.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (KZzsI)

"Viewed as" isn't the same as "are". For example, perceptions of law jobs are likely skewed by pop culture which focuses on high paying gigs, not the Saul Goodman barely-scraping-by stuff, or the job drafting statutes for some state legislature for $50k a year.

In the case of teachers, I think the pop culture portrays them not as well paid, but as a noble pursuit. Young idiots, mostly women, enter thinking that they're going to be inspiring intelligent young teenagers from a broken home, or spend their days reading to adorable toddlers.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 28, 2021 04:07 PM (wmDcS)

220 >>I've said it a hundred times. These people are evil.

Exactly.
And they are STILL DOING IT by now forcing unnecessary, dangerous vaccines on kids. Their risk is almost nil, apart from kids who are already sick or obese, by they force heathy ones to get injected with something that will cause heart problems, strokes, death.

The pharma companies have to push the vaxx on the kids. If they can get it approved for kids, no liability. Even if subsequently given to adults.

It's not just evil, it's business.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 28, 2021 04:07 PM (SchxB)

221 There needs to be punishment for this. Those responsible needn't be jailed, but have their income and all worldly possessions confiscated, then turned into the street and totally ignored.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 28, 2021 04:07 PM (KATBx)

222 This Asian girl at the beech is glad she grow up pre-COVID and so was only damaged by all of the other shit we do instead all of that *plus* COVID:
https://is.gd/VnPHvX
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

That boyfriend of hers in the background is soooooo crushed. He knows his time is limited.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 28, 2021 04:07 PM (mD/uy)

223 The deep state does keep dropping hints that aliens are real and here.

Believe them.

Posted by: Boosted Zombie H.G. Wells at December 28, 2021 04:07 PM (GYllL)

224 180 153
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 03:54 PM (SH2Zi)

I respect homeschoolers immensely. I wish more people had the fortitude to follow their example. Last year when the Coof lockdowns were just spooling up, some friends and I started a little side hustle as a "guest lecturers guild" for homeschool families. Between us we had history, math and English covered through high school level. We got a lot of interest, particularly from people who were really excited about getting their kids out of public schools. But then, when the schools reopened just the tiniest little bit, those same people packed their kids off to the indoctrination centers again and went back to sitting on the couch watching The View, without a moment's hesitation. Everybody says they'll do something until it's time to do it."

You all should move to NOVA - you'd be hired within the week - we have vibrant co-ops here, which seems weird in blue land, til you realize feds are fully aware of the deficiencies of govt, so you hilariously get a very wide political spectrum of homeschoolers who all have one goal of good ed for their kids...

Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 04:07 PM (exHjb)

225 As I recall from some long-ago conversations with my old chain of command, recruiting has always been the shittiest job in the military, and a destroyer of NCO career progression.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 28, 2021 04:06 PM

18 months after 9/11 recruiters never left the office. They just sat back and turned people away.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 28, 2021 04:07 PM (bVYXr)

226 This Asian girl at the beech is glad she grow up pre-COVID and so was only damaged by all of the other shit we do instead all of that *plus* COVID:
https://is.gd/VnPHvX
Posted by: Jo

She is cute but she has very wide feet,

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:07 PM (lMmuq)

227 In general we have way more people with college degrees than there is a practical use for. Many jobs that don't need a college degree now ask for them. Teaching happens to have tons of non-math/science teachers because the pay and other perks of the job is artificially high(and low for people with math/science skills), which is because they're unionized.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 04:03 PM (z5Vrg) "

Fair point. But I believe there's an argument made that the quality of education and the concentrations are a large part of the problem. That's before we get to the point that many people in college are not a good fit for it, and that's why they are in these majors which are useless. Ditto the fact that universities have become businesses which don't turn out academics, they turn out ideologues who don't really serve any particular purpose other then to destroy society with their malingering.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 04:07 PM (VpIIl)

228 Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 28, 2021 03:48 PM (bVYXr)

I don't know what they can get away with now but back in the day, they'd recruit just about anyone with the scores into the nuke program. They neglected to mention that acceptance and enlistment was not a guarantee you would go into the nuke program. There were other qualifiers; such as physical problems that cause bad things to happen under pressure, psychological things that can cause bad things under the other kind of pressure, (I forgot that even tho a sub is big it is cramped and gives the impression of being squeezed. Then think about being 1,000 feet below the surface and your mind can start going wonky). And if you fail, you cannot unenlist. (sorry it's right there in #2 font down at the bottom) But if you didn't take the enlistment bonus you don't have to give that back. You didn't take the bonus did you? Oh well you'll have 6 years to pay that back going back and forth to WestPac. Recruiter is just a different way to spell LIAR and LIES FOR MONEY. Always ask yourself if duty at sea is so great, why is he here on land trying to get other suckers to join?

Posted by: jakee308 at December 28, 2021 04:08 PM (6R0HD)

229 UCLA just cancelled. No Holiday Bowl to ote

Posted by: chance99 at December 28, 2021 04:08 PM (Le3zB)

230 The deep state does keep dropping hints that aliens are real and here.

Yeah I'm not sure what their end game is with this.

SFX guys examine UFO footage
https://youtu.be/jHDlfIaBEqw

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:09 PM (KZzsI)

231 >>The deep state does keep dropping hints that aliens are real and here.

*eye roll*

Is anyone really taking their bait?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 04:09 PM (URNdm)

232 >People who think teachers work harder than anyone else hasn't actually I dunno seen other people at jobs. Being amazed that they work some of their three months off is not exactly an indication of hard working, for example.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 03:58 PM (KZzsI)

Yeah, my dad physically busted his ass for 30 years and now has a broken body to show for it and my mom regularly worked 60-80 hour weeks (still does!), so they can cry me a fucking river.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 28, 2021 04:09 PM (cSs/W)

233 @15 I just hate sequels! #HotZone #NotAgain

twitter.com/songpinganq/status/1475909384727580673

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Yeah, saw stuff about that a week ago. Beijing keeps claiming that SARS-2 is a non-issue in China, but stuff like this keeps popping up.

Fun fact - Xi'an was the entry point of Christianity into China over a milennia ago, back before China tried to shut down the non-Chinese religions (and failed miserably with Buddhism).

Posted by: junior at December 28, 2021 04:09 PM (PTw5h)

234 In general we have way more people with college degrees than there is a practical use for. Many jobs that don't need a college degree now ask for them.
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Griggs v. Duke Power. College degree != not a hood rat.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2021 04:10 PM (2PLLn)

235 "The risk of suicide girl suicide attempts..."

Suicide Girls? Is that still a thing? I remember rubbing a few out to those skanks circa 2003.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at December 28, 2021 04:10 PM (7zo49)

236
I am sort of contrarian here -- I think kids are more resilient than is being acknowledged. None of this is good, it is not intended to be good, and the sooner this madness is overthrown the better. But I will not despair.

There was already harmful socialization taking place before this, for a long, long time. We have always had the maladjusted and dysfunctional
among us. Society will still be creating such people after an end to the lockdown, like it always has.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 28, 2021 04:10 PM (2iDSr)

237 So why is any of this shit still going on? There's no good reason to close schools, or make kids wear masks, or make them sit six feet apart outside in the cold to eat lunch.

This is literal insanity.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 28, 2021 04:02 PM (k4dH2)

As Ayn Rand used to say - when faced by a contradiction, check the premises.

If you start with them not wanting to educate but just collect a paycheck, to have drama rather than understanding, then suddenly it makes sense.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:10 PM (eoQWY)

238
I hope (forlornly, and likely without any basis) that this will backfire.

I hope the crate-training redounds to the ultimate misery of our monstrous ruling classes. I hope that these people one day walk furtively, in the ice-cold, gut-level fear that one of the now-grown children they attempted to keep in thralldom discovers their real identity, and dimes them out to the troikas.

I hope, in 30 or 40 years every single one of these shitstains and every single one of their living family members has to live like Eichmann in Argentina, and that all of them meet his fate.

Posted by: Yudhishtira's Dice at December 28, 2021 04:10 PM (hQ23g)

239 People who were able to work from home from the beginning of the plandemic and never missed any work or income.

Which includes me, but I'm not one of them.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 28, 2021 04:04
-------------------------
Thanks.

My company had that ability but I didn't allow it. Staff worked in office for most part. There were a few exceptions but not without Dr. excuse. I think we're better today for not doing that.

Posted by: olddog in mo at December 28, 2021 04:10 PM (ju2Fy)

240 o think teachers work harder than anyone else hasn't actually I dunno seen other people at jobs. Being amazed that they work some of their three months off is not exactly an indication of hard working, for example.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 03:58 PM (KZzsI)

In fairness, not very many work hard. Teachers or otherwise

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:10 PM (lMmuq)

241 She is cute but she has very wide feet,
Posted by: Y5

I thought she was wearing some kind of surfing flipper/fins. Geesh.

Posted by: Capital Eff at December 28, 2021 04:10 PM (GYllL)

242 Well, when you have an Orange Hitler to dispatch and a bunch of freedom loving filthy Hobbits to subdue, what's the mental of children to get in the way of that goal?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 28, 2021 04:11 PM (iKhtQ)

243 My company had that ability but I didn't allow it. Staff worked in office for most part. There were a few exceptions but not without Dr. excuse. I think we're better today for not doing that.
Posted by: olddog in mo at December 28, 2021 04:10 PM (ju2Fy)

I was already remote before covid. A little more than half of our workforce already was. The company is based in FL and NY and I live in CO so I kinda had to be!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 28, 2021 04:11 PM (njfCw)

244 Oh, that's just swell, a fall-off in IQ within the generation coming up. Don't we already have enough unfunny late-night talk show hosts, time-serving politicians, race barkers, and CNN talking (air) heads?

Posted by: Paco at December 28, 2021 04:11 PM (njExo)

245 I've seen this firsthand. I noticed on Christmas that my 13-year-old nephew has recently become so quiet that he rarely talks and when he does, he can't really be heard. He (#3 out of 4) and his older brother (#2 out of 4) have always been introverts, but this is a new extreme. He spent the Kung Flu Panic at home on the acreage and being tutored by my mom, never interacting with kids his age. He's a poor student to start with, in a small public school dwarfed by nearby better and bigger school systems. None of this Lockdown Theatre helped him personally in any way.

Posted by: pookysgirl, worried aunt at December 28, 2021 04:12 PM (XKZwp)

246 In fairness, not very many work hard. Teachers or otherwise

Yeah most people do as little as they can get away with on the job, whatever it is. but some jobs you can get away with doing less than others. Roofers, Alaskan Crab fishermen etc, not so much. Teachers, politicians, lawyers, yeah.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:12 PM (KZzsI)

247 Auto parts blowing up in Syria must be why it's taking 11 days to get my pan gasket and filter from Minnesota.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami

Might explain that backorder on Thai trannies as well.

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 28, 2021 04:12 PM (WmGrA)

248 The deep state does keep dropping hints that aliens are real and here.

That's to distract from the illegal aliens crossing the border, which are also real and here.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 28, 2021 04:12 PM (SchxB)

249 Of course there are aliens. We have an Ewok running the blog. Who but an alien would forbid maple syrup on French Toast? And don't get me started on certain of the 'nics'.

And that's just in this place.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (a3Q+t)

Ever wonder what they sous vide at a MoMe?

or who?

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 04:12 PM (axyOa)

250 The only way to end racism is to keep fucking each other until we're all the same color...
Posted by: Dirty Frank at December 28, 2021 03:59 PM (x0zf6)

Great idea! Now we need a government strong enough to force mixed race fucking and force the pregnant to give birth to those mixed race babies.
There shouldn't be any problems getting that to happen.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2021 04:12 PM (MFphb)

251 "She is cute but she has very wide feet,"
"I thought she was wearing some kind of surfing flipper/fins. Geesh."

Nice.

Posted by: Rex Ryan at December 28, 2021 04:12 PM (4thlk)

252 But I believe there's an argument made that the quality of education and the concentrations are a large part of the problem. That's before we get to the point that many people in college are not a good fit for it, and that's why they are in these majors which are useless.
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Bull's eye. And it's why bogus majors exist: people who are not a good fit are there, and colleges have to do something with them, so they generate bogus major that a golden retriever could ace. Otherwise, if they wash out those who are unfit, it's hello lawsuit! time for disparate impact.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2021 04:13 PM (2PLLn)

253 Well, the jobs you can get without a college degree dried up to a significant extent. Jobs worth having in the long run, that is, excepting some trades (which while paying well and being essential are nonetheless low-status by the standards of our miserable culture). Destroying domestic manufacturing made a lot of people de facto unemployable.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 28, 2021 04:13 PM (QU5/8)

254 No one who made the decision to do this to children will pay any real price for it, other than maybe losing an election that they were probably going to lose for other reasons anyway. That's because the elites won't see the problems manifesting in their own kids. Wealthy kids are comparatively fine with quarantine, for the same reasons that their wealthy parents are comparatively fine with quarantine.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at December 28, 2021 04:13 PM (7zo49)

255 She is cute but she has very wide feet,

Anti-Hobbite! Halfling rights!!!!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:13 PM (KZzsI)

256 She is cute but she has very wide feet,

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:07 PM (lMmuq)

She? Has feet?

Second look at foot-binding?

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 04:13 PM (SH2Zi)

257 I thought she was wearing some kind of surfing flipper/fins. Geesh.

Her feet are just underinflated for better traction in the sand.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 28, 2021 04:13 PM (SchxB)

258 Rethuglicans are to busy looking for the thousands of dead voters in georgia who trump said voted for biden. After checking if they were still alive on the voter roles only 4 were dead voters were found they mostly voted for trump being zombies.

Posted by: raimondo at December 28, 2021 04:14 PM (OaD+3)

259 "...so you need, what, a fourth-grade education for that?"

Posted by: Zombie Norm MacDonald at December 28, 2021 04:14 PM (1vynn)

260 She is cute but she has very wide feet,

Anti-Hobbite! Halfling rights!!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:13 PM (KZzsI)

If she's from Thailand, she might be swingin' a big one between those legs.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 28, 2021 04:14 PM (Zz0t1)

261 This Asian girl at the beech

Has no one mentioned that there is no tree?

Posted by: mindful webworker - can't see the forest or the trees! at December 28, 2021 04:14 PM (W+RZ5)

262 The only way to end racism is to keep fucking each other until we're all the same color...
Posted by: Dirty Frank at December 28, 2021 03:59 PM (x0zf6)

Great idea! Now we need a government strong enough to force mixed race fucking and force the pregnant to give birth to those mixed race babies.
There shouldn't be any problems getting that to happen.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2021 04:12 PM (MFphb)

This has never in human history been a problem, getting mixed race babies. Much more government work has been wasted trying to stop it.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:14 PM (eoQWY)

263 Destroying domestic manufacturing made a lot of people de facto unemployable.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 28, 2021 04:13 PM (QU5/

++++
People are widgets - interchangeable parts. If their industries vanish, we can just retrain them. No problem, no issue. They can learn to code or install weatherstripping or whatever the economy needs. We can just shuffle 'em between jobs and industries with no downsides or friction.

Posted by: Contemporary economic policy at December 28, 2021 04:15 PM (DU+/6)

264 >>I've seen this firsthand. I noticed on Christmas that my 13-year-old nephew has recently become so quiet that he rarely talks and when he does, he can't really be heard.

That's awful, pookysgirl!
My son has gotten so angry about the rules always changing -- the helplessness of never knowing when school will shutdown, or when they'll get to play sports, pr when a planned event will be cancelled -- two years of other people constantly deciding to spoil plans, ruin everything. He's become so cynical.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 04:15 PM (URNdm)

265 Oh no. Rainmando has crushed the stolen election narrative.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 28, 2021 04:15 PM (sWM8x)

266 Much more government work has been wasted trying to stop it.

Miscegenation? Horrors! We might get another Phoebe Cates or Keanu Reeves!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:15 PM (KZzsI)

267 College degree != not a hood rat.
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Sorry, should have read "college degree = not a hood rat."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2021 04:15 PM (2PLLn)

268 Of course there are aliens. We have an Ewok running the blog. Who but an alien would forbid maple syrup on French Toast? And don't get me started on certain of the 'nics'.

And that's just in this place.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 28, 2021 04:00 PM (a3Q+t)

Sous Vide. Seriously, who but aliens would cook food in a plastic bag submerged in water for 9 hours?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 28, 2021 04:16 PM (wAnMi)

269 No one who made the decision to do this to children will pay any real price for it, other than maybe losing an election that they were probably going to lose for other reasons anyway. That's because the elites won't see the problems manifesting in their own kids. Wealthy kids are comparatively fine with quarantine, for the same reasons that their wealthy parents are comparatively fine with quarantine.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at December 28, 2021 04:13 PM (7zo49)

Oh, they will and are. There was a big flap out here in nearby Malibu where the elites suddenly had CRT being pushed in their fancy private schools. Horror!

See, when you make the unis produce a generation of indoctrinated zombies, eventually you start employing them with their nice degrees in your own school.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:17 PM (eoQWY)

270
He said the containers that were hit held spare auto parts and oil, but there were no casualties.

You get a lot of secondary explosions when auto parts go up...
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Every car I ever saw on a TV show blew up when it left the road.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 28, 2021 04:17 PM (63Dwl)

271 Sous Vide. Seriously, who but aliens would cook food in a plastic bag submerged in water for 9 hours?
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead

Tastes like it's from Uranus?

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 28, 2021 04:17 PM (WmGrA)

272

Sous vide is people!

Posted by: J. Gacey, Esq. at December 28, 2021 04:17 PM (x0zf6)

273 263
People are widgets - interchangeable parts. If their industries vanish, we can just retrain them. No problem, no issue. They can learn to code or install weatherstripping or whatever the economy needs. We can just shuffle 'em between jobs and industries with no downsides or friction.

Posted by: Contemporary economic policy at December 28, 2021 04:15 PM (DU+/6)
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It'll all work out great, as long as someone with a degree in "Management" is in charge.

The most worthless layabout waterhead fuckstain bosses I've ever had have been the ones with management degrees. Manage an office? Manage a factor? Manage a work crew? Manage a McDonalds? It's all the same! Here's your degree to prove you can boss people around in any industry about which you have no clue whatsoever!

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 28, 2021 04:17 PM (lNHqD)

274 Well...
I don't pooh-pooh the importance of teaching the young and instilling good values in them.
But a parent who teaches his child that "the State is always right and we must always do what the State says and trust the State to give us honest counsel" is a horrible parent.
Skepticism should be the foremost virtue instilled in our children, and especially a distrust of Authority. These kids who are committing suicide and getting strung out on drugs and needing psychotherapy haven't been mistreated by the State; they've been misled by their parents.

FJB

Posted by: jbspry at December 28, 2021 04:17 PM (ATe9j)

275 If kids were harmed during Covid, just pass a trillion dollar "Fix our Children" bill. Problem solved.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2021 04:18 PM (4thlk)

276 Always interesting to see which posts the trolls drop by to disrupt discussion, huh? Gotta change the subject. Or try.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 04:18 PM (URNdm)

277 That's awful, pookysgirl!
My son has gotten so angry about the rules always changing -- the helplessness of never knowing when school will shutdown, or when they'll get to play sports, pr when a planned event will be cancelled -- two years of other people constantly deciding to spoil plans, ruin everything. He's become so cynical.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 04:15 PM (URNdm)

don't despair - every 13 year old boy is cynical. I was too. smart enough to see things but not allowed to do much.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:18 PM (eoQWY)

278 She has freckles on her, but she is nice.

Posted by: Dr. Demento at December 28, 2021 04:19 PM (jYQlA)

279 If she's from Thailand, she might be swingin' a big one between those legs.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 28, 2021 04:14 PM

Thailand's not the only place in the South Pacific, you know.

Posted by: Prime Minister of New Zealand at December 28, 2021 04:19 PM (a3Q+t)

280 "Well, the jobs you can get without a college degree dried up to a significant extent. Jobs worth having in the long run, that is, excepting some trades (which while paying well and being essential are nonetheless low-status by the standards of our miserable culture). Destroying domestic manufacturing made a lot of people de facto unemployable.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 28, 2021 04:13 PM (QU5/

"

We still have blue collar jobs in this area where you can quickly make six figures, and they're never filled quickly. Meanwhile I have people who left the "professional world" and very good paying jobs to make less- and they've never been happier.

It's ironic that people work so hard to get white collar jobs and then once there many realize what s shit show it is and how much happier they would be doing something they like, not loath.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 28, 2021 04:19 PM (VpIIl)

281 . These kids who are committing suicide and getting strung out on drugs and needing psychotherapy haven't been mistreated by the State; they've been misled by their parents.

FJB
Posted by: jbspry at December 28, 2021 04:17 PM (ATe9j)

Well, most likely it is both. Sure the parents should not take kids to a restaurant that serves poison, but that doesn't make a restaurant serving poison blameless.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:20 PM (eoQWY)

282 The most worthless layabout waterhead fuckstain bosses I've ever had have been the ones with management degrees.
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Even worse than those with marketing degrees? I had the impression the requirement for a degree in marketing was a good golf game, so as to schmooze with potential clients/customers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2021 04:21 PM (2PLLn)

283 Every car I ever saw on a TV show blew up when it left the road.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 28, 2021 04:17 PM (63Dwl)

====

Word

Posted by: NBC Truck Investigation Division at December 28, 2021 04:21 PM (B77rm)

284 See, when you make the unis produce a generation of indoctrinated zombies, eventually you start employing them with their nice degrees in your own school.

Yeah the crazy leaks into private schools and charter schools, too. Even Christian and Jewish schools.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:21 PM (KZzsI)

285 277 That's awful, pookysgirl!
My son has gotten so angry about the rules always changing -- the helplessness of never knowing when school will shutdown, or when they'll get to play sports, pr when a planned event will be cancelled -- two years of other people constantly deciding to spoil plans, ruin everything. He's become so cynical.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 04:15 PM (URNdm)

don't despair - every 13 year old boy is cynical. I was too. smart enough to see things but not allowed to do much.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:18 PM (eoQWY)

I was thinking the same thing - it's a life lesson that "our betters" never solve anything, so there are "no betters" in America. We watch out for ourselves, our families, our neighbors - we don't expect someone else to do it b/c no one can do it better...

This has been the ultimate devaluation of "experts" for a large portion of the teen and young adult population - that can be bad, but in the tack we were taking as a nation, will probably bring more bennies than harms...

Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 04:22 PM (exHjb)

286 Every car I ever saw on a TV show blew up when it left the road.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 28, 2021 04:17 PM (63Dwl)

Must have had those little bushes that make cars roll over like the A-Team show did.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:22 PM (eoQWY)

287 "Well, the jobs you can get without a college degree dried up to a significant extent."

This is changing now though with so many people not wanting to work.

I'm up for a new job, B.A. at a softare development co. (2nd interview next week) that pre-covid required a fancy degree, minumum 3 years experience and you had to be local, not remote.

I have NONE of those things and yet THEY came to me!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 28, 2021 04:22 PM (njfCw)

288 Fuck NeverTrump in all its forms and in all its ways.
Skullfuck them all.

Posted by: (jV+aN) President Orange Man Bad (Rheees Be Upon Him) at December 28, 2021 04:22 PM (jV+aN)

289 Oh, that's just swell, a fall-off in IQ within the generation coming up. Don't we already have enough unfunny late-night talk show hosts, time-serving politicians, race barkers, and CNN talking (air) heads?

If only. No.. they'll be building bridges and skyscrapers.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 28, 2021 04:22 PM (nxdel)

290 Even worse than those with marketing degrees? I had the impression the requirement for a degree in marketing was a good golf game, so as to schmooze with potential clients/customers.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2021 04:21 PM (2PLLn)

And an expense account.
Mostly an expense account.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 04:22 PM (axyOa)

291 275 If kids were harmed during Covid, just pass a trillion dollar "Fix our Children" bill. Problem solved.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 28, 2021 04:18 PM (4thlk)
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Just put up signs saying "Depression-free zone."

A trillion dollars or so should cover it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2021 04:22 PM (2PLLn)

292 Surprise! No sexual misconduct charges against Fredo the Elder.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 04:22 PM (SH2Zi)

293 >Always interesting to see which posts the trolls drop by to disrupt discussion, huh? Gotta change the subject. Or try.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 04:18 PM (URNdm)

Yeah, retardo doesn't give a fuck that kids everywhere are suffering greatly, he just want to dunk on the feckless GOP with some made-up bullshit. What a big damn hero.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 28, 2021 04:22 PM (cSs/W)

294 Fox has run this clip on a lot of their programs several times, which is when I first had seen it.

What I am confused about is why is it still on the Face the Nation Twitter feed if they pulled it before being aired.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 28, 2021 04:23 PM (NpAcC)

295 I said back awhile ago in a fit of whimsy that all this stuff esp about mask was because the aliens who were going to start living here can get stuff from us so they need everyone to wear a mask. They couldn't just spring that on us so they made up the deal about the covid to get everyone to mask up and get used to it. Same with the covid actually to them it's a necessary organism in the air that they breathe. Without it they have problems so this was a test to find out how well we'd cope. And yes they don't care cause the Aliens are this sector's leading political base. What they say goes. They've been letting us slide for a long time but things are getting out of hand and they've decided to take things on here.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 28, 2021 04:23 PM (6R0HD)

296 they'll be building bridges and skyscrapers.

"Oh sure you collapse one little bridge and that's all anyone can talk about!!!"
--Florida International University students

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:23 PM (KZzsI)

297 >>This has been the ultimate devaluation of "experts" for a large portion of the teen and young adult population - that can be bad, but in the tack we were taking as a nation, will probably bring more bennies than harms.

Most definitely

Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 04:23 PM (URNdm)

298 People are widgets - interchangeable parts. If their industries vanish, we can just retrain them. No problem, no issue. They can learn to code or install weatherstripping or whatever the economy needs. We can just shuffle 'em between jobs and industries with no downsides or friction.
Posted by: Contemporary economic policy at December 28, 2021 04:15 PM (DU+/6)

Then they say that, and don't even start the retraining/shuffling/moving process and walk away.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:23 PM (eoQWY)

299 Applicable online states only.

My kids have not had their lives impacted at all. Maybe a few weeks last year without seeing their friends. That was it. Once summer 2020 came around it was business a s usual. The benefits of living in a red state.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 28, 2021 04:24 PM (H2kCd)

300 What I am confused about is why is it still on the Face the Nation Twitter feed if they pulled it before being aired.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 28, 2021 04:23 PM (NpAcC)

Becasue these idiots have to hire from the same pool of near illiterates as the rest of industry.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 04:24 PM (axyOa)

301 I said back awhile ago in a fit of whimsy that all this stuff esp about mask was because the aliens who were going to start living here can get stuff from us so they need everyone to wear a mask. They couldn't just spring that on us so they made up the deal about the covid to get everyone to mask up and get used to it. Same with the covid actually to them it's a necessary organism in the air that they breathe. Without it they have problems so this was a test to find out how well we'd cope. And yes they don't care cause the Aliens are this sector's leading political base. What they say goes. They've been letting us slide for a long time but things are getting out of hand and they've decided to take things on here.

In fairness, this is as good as any other explanation that has been offered
Posted by:

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:25 PM (lMmuq)

302 282
Even worse than those with marketing degrees? I had the impression the requirement for a degree in marketing was a good golf game, so as to schmooze with potential clients/customers.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2021 04:21 PM (2PLLn)

Yup, way worse. The marketing degree people got to go play golf. The management degree people had to stay in the office and "manage." A management degree candidate is one who chose not to major in marketing because his handicap was too high.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 28, 2021 04:25 PM (lNHqD)

303 He's become so cynical.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 04:15 PM (URNdm)

My nephew was born a cynic due to genetics, so the little guy never had a chance at being an optimist. None of us look at the glass as half-full, because it's poisoned.

Posted by: pookysgirl sez DOOOOOOM! at December 28, 2021 04:25 PM (XKZwp)

304 And an expense account.
Mostly an expense account.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 04:22 PM (axyOa)
------------------

Also, good hair, shiny shoes, and a "slap on the back, call me Buck" demeanor.

I had a marketing guy suggest to me that we "reward" scientists by assembling them and having a marching band come in and march around to honor them.

I'm sure that sales/marketing guys would get a chubby from that, but it's hard to imagine something that would make scientists cringe more than that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2021 04:25 PM (2PLLn)

305 We see the effects in preschool; several of my 4 year old students are developmentally more in line with the 2 year olds. It's hardest to watch in some of the kids I've known since they were 2; now they don't make eye contact and are comfortable to seemingly ignore their teachers. This was not the case prior to the shutdown, but it's easier to do when they can only see half our face due to universal masking. We also see kids with cognitive issues that parents want to blame on the shutdown, and the parents believe that putting them in a full day program will have them ready for Kindergarten just fine. The kids are not getting the interventions they need because parents don't want to see the real problem.

Posted by: Banshee7 at December 28, 2021 04:25 PM (xJf7R)

306 They are doing incalculable damage to a whole generation of kids. China is smiling

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 28, 2021 04:26 PM (Irn0L)

307 I saw a bird fly backwards just now

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (lMmuq)

308 307 I saw a bird fly backwards just now
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (lMmuq)

Just a glitch in the matrix.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (z5Vrg)

309 Has to be an error in the math or description for the citizens there. Our population didn't increase 40% in the last 20 years

--

odd, just like there's only been 11 million illegals in america since 2000.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (ZZK0E)

310 And yes they don't care cause the Aliens are this sector's leading political base. What they say goes. They've been letting us slide for a long time but things are getting out of hand and they've decided to take things on here.
.......

I hope they're reptilian.

Posted by: wth at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (v0R5T)

311 I saw a bird fly backwards just now
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (lMmuq)

Maybe you are just moving forward? Eathquake?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (Irn0L)

312 My nephew was born a cynic due to genetics, so the little guy never had a chance at being an optimist. None of us look at the glass as half-full, because it's poisoned.

At least when things go well he's pleasantly surprised.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (SchxB)

313 >>>We see the effects in preschool; several of my 4 year old students are developmentally more in line with the 2 year olds. It's hardest to watch in some of the kids I've known since they were 2; now they don't make eye contact and are comfortable to seemingly ignore their teachers.
-----

Do these kids wear masks at home with their families? Do their parents ignore them and put them in front of a blue screen to babysit them? Socialization begins at home.

Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (Ti+Tv)

314 I saw a bird fly backwards just now
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (lMmuq)

Maybe you are just moving forward? Eathquake?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (Irn0L)

Mad Dog 20-20?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (Irn0L)

315
I was reading something a few days ago about the IQ drop. There is some big, long running study about IQ and cognitive development ongoing. It's going to run for decades. The look at infants and toddlers.

You can't give children that young an IQ test, but they use something else, the name I forget. Anyway, for babies and toddlers born during this insanity, they found the scores on this scale had dropped off greatly.

It correlates with a 15 point drop in IQ. That's so large that they couldn't believe it could be real.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (Mzdiz)

316 The worst stories I've heard or read are the ones where the little one is so terrified to take their mask off or go somewhere they think is dangerous because they've been told a deadly disease is everywhere.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (KZzsI)

317 Any organism forced to live inside a box is only to grow and adapt to the degree necessary to live comfortably in that box.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (yMOIR)

318 Reptilians will eat us. The Greys will only probe us.
Considering the alternative...PREPARE THY ANUSES

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 28, 2021 04:29 PM (njfCw)

319 I saw a bird fly backwards just now
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (lMmuq)

Maybe you are just moving forward? Eathquake?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (Irn0L)

Mad Dog 20-20?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (Irn0L)

Yes, please. But just half a cup, I'm driving.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 28, 2021 04:29 PM (eeRB6)

320 316 The worst stories I've heard or read are the ones where the little one is so terrified to take their mask off or go somewhere they think is dangerous because they've been told a deadly disease is everywhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (KZzsI)

And they are told it's all the fault of those damned dirty joo... unvaccinated.

Posted by: Roy at December 28, 2021 04:30 PM (Ti+Tv)

321 Any organism forced to live inside a box is only to grow and adapt to the degree necessary to live comfortably in that box.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (yMOIR)

Out: Nobody puts baby in a box.

In: Nobody lets baby out of the box.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 04:30 PM (SH2Zi)

322 I saw a bird fly backwards just now
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (lMmuq)
.......

Must be windy.

Posted by: wth at December 28, 2021 04:30 PM (v0R5T)

323 It is always popular to blame my generation, the baby boomers, for anything that goes wrong but we are actually the sandwich generation in this and many other cases. In the case of COVID and it's use to steal an election it is the the decisions of the DC octogenarians Pelosi and McConnell and globalists Soros and Schwab that have caused this abetted by "handmaids" of generation X.

Baby boomers are caught in the middle looking after their parents and at the same time trying to help their children and grandchildren. We are too busy to be responsible for wrecking the world out of spite.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 28, 2021 04:30 PM (u54I1)

324 Considering the alternative...PREPARE THY ANUSES

One reason I left California was to get away from shit like this.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 28, 2021 04:30 PM (SchxB)

325 I watched that clip three or four times when it first came out, cried every time. She gets it.

Posted by: m at December 28, 2021 04:30 PM (Pk5po)

326 My nephew was born a cynic due to genetics, so the little guy never had a chance at being an optimist. None of us look at the glass as half-full, because it's poisoned.

At least when things go well he's pleasantly surprised.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (SchxB)

That just means somebody is hiding the true situation so it looks well.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:31 PM (eoQWY)

327 There is a wind going west to east.
Ther was a bird sitting by itself to the west of several other birds.

The bird got into the air, flapped it's wings, stayed facing west the entire time, as the wind carried him backwards to the east.

Then the bird landed next to the other birds

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:31 PM (lMmuq)

328 screwing up people's minds, especially children's minds, is "feature, not bug" as far as tptb are concerned ...
effed in the head = easier to manipulate

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (IJMH4) at December 28, 2021 04:32 PM (IJMH4)

329 323 It is always popular to blame my generation, the baby boomers, for anything that goes wrong but we are actually the sandwich generation in this and many other cases. In the case of COVID and it's use to steal an election it is the the decisions of the DC octogenarians Pelosi and McConnell and globalists Soros and Schwab that have caused this abetted by "handmaids" of generation X.
at December 28, 2021 04:30 PM (u54I1)

While the leadership might be Silent Generation, most of the congresscritters are boomers. This was true for a lot of the nonsense of the 70s too. Silent Gen leaders, Boomer footsoldiers.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 04:32 PM (z5Vrg)

330 I saw a bird fly backwards just now
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (lMmuq)

Just a glitch in the matrix.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Or a tornado.

Posted by: rickb223 Pureblood - non-GMO at December 28, 2021 04:33 PM (uXonU)

331 When it comes to school and the potential for the future. The idea that a child may not be quite up to snuff in intellect is very painful for a parent. Lots of daydream futures go up in smoke. Money too.

So they're not inclined to be all accepting of any evidence like that. And then by the time they do it's too late.

I said before it's a narrow window. What seem plenty of time to us is not to them. A child does all their growing and maturation within 18 years actually somewhat less. So a 2 year window is 1/8 of their lifetime. What they do in that two years will be it probably for the rest of their life. They will have to make do with whatever gets done. In a way the teachers are correct in that the person who should have the final say on what they learn should be the student. Not the teacher, parent or counselor. That said they don't know what they need. So you have to let their intuition be a guide part way. But that's when they're older. Before they're 13 they should be able to fit in socially. If they can't or don't they're going to have a tough life for all of it.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 28, 2021 04:33 PM (6R0HD)

332 Must be windy.
Posted by: w

You are right. It is but have never seen a bird do that before

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:33 PM (lMmuq)

333 PREPARE THY ANI

Posted by: wth at December 28, 2021 04:33 PM (v0R5T)

334 "289. If only. No.. they'll be building bridges and skyscrapers."

Guess I better start investing in barges and one-story office plazas.

Posted by: Paco at December 28, 2021 04:34 PM (njExo)

335 Then the bird landed next to the other birds
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:31 PM (lMmuq)

Ah, yes, relative motion playing it's little tricks.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2021 04:34 PM (Y5qcH)

336 329 323 It is always popular to blame my generation, the baby boomers, for anything that goes wrong but we are actually the sandwich generation in this and many other cases. In the case of COVID and it's use to steal an election it is the the decisions of the DC octogenarians Pelosi and McConnell and globalists Soros and Schwab that have caused this abetted by "handmaids" of generation X.
at December 28, 2021 04:30 PM (u54I1)

While the leadership might be Silent Generation, most of the congresscritters are boomers. This was true for a lot of the nonsense of the 70s too. Silent Gen leaders, Boomer footsoldiers.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 04:32 PM (z5Vrg)

Yeah, don't blame Gen X - we're about the only blameless ones b/c no one listens to us and we've got DeSantis

...Millenials, though...

Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 04:34 PM (exHjb)

337 screwing up people's minds, especially children's minds, is "feature, not bug" as far as tptb are concerned

"Children being emotionally and mentally scarred for life is a price I'm willing to pay for not getting sick!"
--Mask Davidian

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:35 PM (KZzsI)

338 While the leadership might be Silent Generation, most of the congresscritters are boomers. This was true for a lot of the nonsense of the 70s too. Silent Gen leaders, Boomer footsoldiers.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 04:32 PM (z5Vrg)

Plenty of Xers and Millenials in on this, too.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 28, 2021 04:35 PM (ONvIw)

339 334 "289. If only. No.. they'll be building bridges and skyscrapers."

Guess I better start investing in barges and one-story office plazas.
Posted by: Paco at December 28, 2021 04:34 PM (njExo)

Yeah. Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit amphetamines.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 28, 2021 04:35 PM (eeRB6)

340 >Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 28, 2021 04:30 PM (u54I1)

Gen X has almost zero institutional power. Everyone has always catered to the Boomers, because largest cohort ever. We Gen Xers are the smallest generation extant, as far as I am aware.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 28, 2021 04:36 PM (cSs/W)

341 I saw a bird fly backwards just now
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (lMmuq)

Naw that's a Backasswards Blue Tit. The migrate from the US to Great Britain flying back wards so they can see where they've been. Helps with navigation.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 28, 2021 04:37 PM (6R0HD)

342 316 The worst stories I've heard or read are the ones where the little one is so terrified to take their mask off or go somewhere they think is dangerous because they've been told a deadly disease is everywhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:28 PM (KZzsI)

========

My mother took my son to the movies last week. She forgot all about masks and panicked slightly when she got there, afraid that either Junior would freak out or Dolley would get mad.

She looked at Junior and asked, "Is it okay if you don't have a mask?"

He just shrugged.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 28, 2021 04:37 PM (LvTSG)

343 Gen X has almost zero institutional power.

There are some out there, but yeah, kind of left behind and forgotten. Largely because we're such slacker losers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:37 PM (KZzsI)

344 Nobody could accuse Zucker, Zuckerberg, Tapper, or Chris Cuomo of being boomers.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 28, 2021 04:37 PM (ONvIw)

345 *sounds air raid siren*

Attention Eloi, get your free booster shots!

Posted by: Morlocks at December 28, 2021 04:38 PM (yMOIR)

346 As they say in finance, the pig in the python is the boomers

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:38 PM (lMmuq)

347 Amish model - one-room school house (or public school) for 8 years. Then a) off to the farm if u are average intelligence or below or b) a business owner for the 10% above average smarts.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at December 28, 2021 04:38 PM (n/szn)

348
323 It is always popular to blame my generation, the baby boomers, for anything that goes wrong but we are actually the sandwich generation in this and many other cases. In the case of COVID and it's use to steal an election it is the the decisions of the DC octogenarians Pelosi and McConnell and globalists Soros and Schwab that have caused this abetted by "handmaids" of generation X.

[...]

Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 28, 2021 04:30 PM (u54I1)

-----

Nobody mentions the WW2/"Greatest Generation" contribution to the problem -- you know, the Boomers' parents. They were elevated to sainthood, so it's not proper to point out how many of them were narcissistic, arrogant fatheads.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 28, 2021 04:38 PM (2iDSr)

349 Short news blurb mentioned in passing that they just noticed that not a single case of common cold or flue was recorded last year and efforts are being made to make sure they dont get mixed in with COVID. Five second blurb.

By June it will be that Trumps COVID policies were so extreme that it took a year and a half to overcome the ruinous policy momentum Trump the Fascist issued by decree.

Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at December 28, 2021 04:38 PM (MUYni)

350 330 I saw a bird fly backwards just now
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (lMmuq)

Just a glitch in the matrix.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

Or a tornado.
Posted by: rickb223 Pureblood - non-GMO at December 28, 2021 04:33 PM (uXonU)

Or, we really are living in a twilight world.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 28, 2021 04:38 PM (GDkuU)

351 I saw a bird fly backwards just now
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:27 PM (lMmuq)

Naw that's a Backasswards Blue Tit. The migrate from the US to Great Britain flying back wards so they can see where they've been. Helps with navigation.
Posted by: jakee308 at December 28, 2021 04:37 PM (6R0HD)

This explains the latest pictures of Elizabeth Hurley.
No idea how this explains it, but I'll look at the pics anyway.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 28, 2021 04:38 PM (axyOa)

352 There are some out there, but yeah, kind of left behind and forgotten. Largely because we're such slacker losers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:37 PM (KZzsI)

A lot of Xers in the media

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 28, 2021 04:39 PM (ONvIw)

353 330 could be a miracle.

Posted by: When Penguins Fly at December 28, 2021 04:39 PM (n/szn)

354 >>> The bird got into the air, flapped it's wings, stayed facing west the entire time, as the wind carried him backwards to the east.

Birds know a thing or two about flight.

Seagulls will just hover in place above a sand dune while the wind provides airspeed.

Sparrows and goldfinches squabbling at the feeder can hover in place briefly. Not like a hummingbird, but they still make it look easy.

Posted by: fluffy at December 28, 2021 04:39 PM (UnQlg)

355 There are some out there, but yeah, kind of left behind and forgotten. Largely because we're such slacker losers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:37 PM (KZzsI)

And of course Paul Ryan is an Xer

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 28, 2021 04:39 PM (ONvIw)

356
Ah, yes, relative motion playing it's little tricks.
Posted by: s

No, it moved from west to east about 300 feet facing in the opposite direction the entire time

Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:40 PM (lMmuq)

357 The nation's recent lockdown policies and mask mandates will create a generation of children who exhibit lower IQs and signs of social brain damage, according to a clinical psychiatrist for children and adolescents.

Dr. Mark McDonald cited an Aug. 11 study by Brown University (pdf) that found that "children born during the pandemic have significantly reduced verbal, motor, and overall cognitive performance compared to children born pre-pandemic," during an interview with host Cindy Drukier on a Dec. 25 episode of NTD's "The Nation Speaks." NTD is a sister media outlet of The Epoch Times.

Perfect. Exactly the kind of peope we want in our Great Reset society. Easy to control.

Posted by: WEF elites at December 28, 2021 04:40 PM (Do5/p)

358 Boomers are by and large crap people. So are Millennials. So millennials blame boomers. It comes down to one group of turds pointing the finger at another group of turds, because they're more dried up.

Sorry millennials, but you're the ones who suck ass *today.* Those other ass-suckers have one foot in the grave. How long can you whine about their lameness? I suppose until you too are old, and your buttmunch Gen Z kids are blaming you.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2021 04:40 PM (hQ23g)

359 Just before X-mas the local children's museum was running a commercial for coming down and meeting Santa. At the end, they said that all kids should be masked, "to protect Santa". Yeah kids, you don't want to KILL SANTA, do you?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 28, 2021 04:40 PM (HmZuC)

360 338 While the leadership might be Silent Generation, most of the congresscritters are boomers. This was true for a lot of the nonsense of the 70s too. Silent Gen leaders, Boomer footsoldiers.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 04:32 PM (z5Vrg)

Plenty of Xers and Millenials in on this, too.
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 28, 2021 04:35 PM (ONvIw)
In the House and Senate respectively
27/11 Silent Gen (occupying most of the leadership roles though)
230/68 Boomers
144/20 Gen X, which is somewhat significant
31/1 Millenials

So there's going to be some impact, but almost 0 from Millenials in positions of power in the past and present, and a much more modest one for Gen X, though that could pick up from here in both cases.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 04:40 PM (z5Vrg)

361 *sounds air raid siren*

Attention Eloi, get your free booster shots!
Posted by: Morlocks at December 28, 2021 04:38 PM (yMOIR)

*puts on bib*

Mmmm, tasty, tasty Eloi...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 28, 2021 04:40 PM (eeRB6)

362 340
Gen X has almost zero institutional power. Everyone has always catered to the Boomers, because largest cohort ever. We Gen Xers are the smallest generation extant, as far as I am aware.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 28, 2021 04:36 PM (cSs/W)
------------------

I think we are too. Every time I have to deal with someone in "authority," I find myself thinking either, "Christ, they're old" or "Christ, they're young." Not much of our peer group behind any of the power levers. But then we are the generation who famously never really gave a shit, so I guess it's no surprise.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 28, 2021 04:41 PM (lNHqD)

363 Posted by: Nova local at December 28, 2021 04:34 PM (exHjb)

Uh huh. And always with the glib excuses to get out of doing their chores.

Get out there and do those dishes!!!

Blameless? My rosy red rectum.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 28, 2021 04:41 PM (6R0HD)

364 No, it moved from west to east about 300 feet facing in the opposite direction the entire time
Posted by: Y5 at December 28, 2021 04:40 PM (lMmuq)

Yeah, that's relative motion. The air the bird was in was moving in the other direction.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 28, 2021 04:42 PM (UuD2k)

365 *sounds air raid siren*

Attention Eloi, get your free booster shots!
Posted by: Morlocks at December 28, 2021 04:38 PM (yMOIR)

*puts on bib*

Mmmm, tasty, tasty Eloi...

All clear.

Posted by: Archer at December 28, 2021 04:42 PM (gmo/4)

366 343 Gen X has almost zero institutional power.

There are some out there, but yeah, kind of left behind and forgotten. Largely because we're such slacker losers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:37 PM (KZzsI)

Meh. GenX saw the "American Dream" put to the lie. Not delivered as promised, even when we put the work in. Cynical, definitely. Slacker losers? Nah. Just rational.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 28, 2021 04:42 PM (II3Gr)

367 >>Seagulls will just hover in place above a sand dune while the wind provides airspeed.

They hang around the bridge here on windy days and ride the air currents all different directions almost never flapping their wings. Fun to watch.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 28, 2021 04:42 PM (ZLI7S)

368 Mmmm, tasty, tasty Eloi...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 28, 2021 04:40 PM (eeRB6)

Kinda gamey.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 28, 2021 04:42 PM (II3Gr)

369 Considering the alternative...PREPARE THY ANUSES

Ready and standing by.

Posted by: Frank Luntz at December 28, 2021 04:43 PM (GYllL)

370 fwiw, very limited size study on vaccine, interesting results if replicated:

https://tinyurl.com/3n3ehaze

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 28, 2021 04:43 PM (coYBh)

371 Nood bold!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 28, 2021 04:43 PM (z5Vrg)

372 Not delivered as promised, even when we put the work in. Cynical, definitely. Slacker losers? Nah. Just rational.

Yeah, there's a lot to that. We did what we were supposed to and got handed.... well look around you.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 28, 2021 04:43 PM (KZzsI)

373 Bold Nood

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 28, 2021 04:44 PM (SH2Zi)

374 Sorry millennials, but you're the ones who suck ass *today.* Those other ass-suckers have one foot in the grave. How long can you whine about their lameness? I suppose until you too are old, and your buttmunch Gen Z kids are blaming you.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 28, 2021 04:40 PM (hQ23g)

Plenty of Gen X in the enemedia and increasing numbers in Congress. So let's have a funeral for the espression evil boomers and millenials. Graft knows no age.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 28, 2021 04:44 PM (ONvIw)

375 We have also damaged the very young. As face-recognition cortical circuits are consolidating in the first year of life, go figure that it is damaging for the child to only see masked faces.

Posted by: soft white underbelly at December 28, 2021 04:44 PM (xPIzP)

376 the problem is that instead of us seeing ourselves as Americans, we've been taught to think of ourselves as members of discrete factions- 'generations'- each with its own set of characteristics. And each pointing fingers at the other. I'm reasonably sure this was intended. Divide and conquer.

Posted by: DB at December 28, 2021 04:46 PM (0KxNW)

377 Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 28, 2021 04:41 PM (lNHqD)

Oh geesh here we go. Did you ever give a thought that that's how WE FELT? In fact EVERY generation feels that way and thinks they're the only ones to face stuff like that.

Boo hoo. Poor you. Blame your elders for all the shit flowing down hill and then nothing but excuses to the poor shlubs eating your crap.

The boomers who you all think skated out clean had to pick up the tab for the silent generation when they went into the new hospitals and Veterans facilities paid for with the new Medicare and Medicaid. Money growing on trees boy howdy. War on this and War on that and boy we're going to straighten all this stuff out in no time. Oh and in the meantime that promotion you were going for just got given to the new female hire from college cause we've been told we don't have enough females in that department. Sorry about that. No no money either. Oh and by the way could you show her how to do all the stuff that you do around here cause I'm busy with the Chairman for the next few days. Thanks I knew you'd understand.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 28, 2021 04:47 PM (6R0HD)

378 376 the problem is that instead of us seeing ourselves as Americans, we've been taught to think of ourselves as members of discrete factions- 'generations'- each with its own set of characteristics. And each pointing fingers at the other. I'm reasonably sure this was intended. Divide and conquer.
Posted by: DB at December 28, 2021 04:46 PM (0KxNW)

I think they're stratifying us by race and ethnicity, not age

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 28, 2021 04:47 PM (ONvIw)

379 "289. If only. No.. they'll be building bridges and skyscrapers."
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The pedestrian bridge in Florida was just a preview of coming attractions.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 28, 2021 04:47 PM (2PLLn)

380 The Silents are the loudest group ever, jealous of the Greatest, they ruin everything...lol...well some have

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 28, 2021 04:48 PM (ONvIw)

381 Nobody mentions the WW2/"Greatest Generation" contribution to the problem -- you know, the Boomers' parents. They were elevated to sainthood, so it's not proper to point out how many of them were narcissistic, arrogant fatheads.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 28, 2021 04:38 PM (2iDSr)

Way, way, way back when Ann Coulter was worth reading, she had a column about the Greatest Generation and our fawning over them as near perfect.
Her point was that they'd been through so much that their vow that their children live better worked very poorly.
The Greatest Generation gave birth and rise to the worst generation, the ME generation.

It was a thought provoking column, especially since the majority of her readers got bashed by it.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2021 04:49 PM (MFphb)

382
In Strauss and Howe's 4th Turning general archetypes, GenX is the "Nomad" archetype. Each of the four types has it's pluses and minuses, strengths and weaknesses.

For Nomads, the positives are "savvy, practical, perceptive" and the negatives are "unfeeling, uncultured, amoral." Their "endowments" are "liberty, survival, and honor".

The last go round of Nomads was the "Lost Generation". Eisenhower and Patton were such Nomads.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 28, 2021 04:49 PM (Mzdiz)

383 @376

Talkin bout my generation?

Posted by: The Who at December 28, 2021 04:50 PM (yMOIR)

384 I think they're stratifying us by race and ethnicity, not age
Posted by: CN...FJB at December 28, 2021 04:47 PM (ONvIw)

Embrace the power of And.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 28, 2021 04:50 PM (MFphb)

385 'I'm so concerned about our children because there is an epidemic, if you will, of mental health challenges that they've been facing, and it's partly because of the pandemic,' Dr Murthy, a father of two, said on CNN's State of the Nation on Sunday.

Wrong. It's not at all due to "the pandemic". It is 100% due to the Plandemic protocols. The pandemic - the actual virus - has 99.99% affected only the elderly and the immunocompromised. Were it not for the lockdowns and COVID protocols enacted by the government, schools, businesses, etc., no one would have been affected with "mental health challenges". Any more than normal anyway.

It is well past time the blame should be placed where it belongs: not on "the pandemic", but on the pandemic policies enacted.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 28, 2021 04:56 PM (Do5/p)

386 Meh. GenX saw the "American Dream" put to the lie. Not delivered as promised, even when we put the work in. Cynical, definitely. Slacker losers? Nah. Just rational.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 28, 2021 04:42 PM (II3Gr)

Kids in the 70s saw that long before GenX. We just made the 80s happen while we complained.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:58 PM (eoQWY)

387 it is lazy/greedy teachers wanting more Me Time, but at the root imo there is psychological warfare ... they want to break the kids, break them from tradition, break all their comfort zones, ... same thing they are doing to adults, but kids are more vulnerable.

And there is the whole sexual grooming as well, by pedos and pervs ... weakening the strong male role model we old folks had in most TV, versus the broken male of today's sitcoms. Goes with their whole color revolution ... top down warfare.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 28, 2021 04:59 PM (Cus5s)

388
Kids in the 70s saw that long before GenX. We just made the 80s happen while we complained.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 28, 2021 04:58 PM (eoQWY)

We knew The Brady Bunch was bullshit

Posted by: JoeF. at December 28, 2021 05:09 PM (mR6Gs)

389 it is lazy/greedy teachers wanting more Me Time, but at the root imo there is psychological warfare ... they want to break the kids, break them from tradition, break all their comfort zones, ... same thing they are doing to adults, but kids are more vulnerable.

In my humble opinion, most of the public sector jobs pay TOO well, so well in fact that the people who do these jobs don't even want to do the actual WORK anymore, and are simply biding their time until they can retire
I count most teachers and policemen in this.

Most cops don't want to put their lives in danger anymore and go for the low-hanging fruit---and leave the thugs alone.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 28, 2021 05:12 PM (mR6Gs)

390 Conservatives don't want to teach they just don't care about doing that job anymore
Just easier to blame those darn libs for the problem

Posted by: Kurt at December 28, 2021 05:20 PM (I4HRm)

391 377 Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 28, 2021 04:41 PM (lNHqD)

Oh geesh here we go. Did you ever give a thought that that's how WE FELT? In fact EVERY generation feels that way and thinks they're the only ones to face stuff like that.

Boo hoo. Poor you. Blame your elders for all the shit flowing down hill and then nothing but excuses to the poor shlubs eating your crap.
Posted by: jakee308 at December 28, 2021 04:47 PM (6R0HD)

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I did nothing of the sort. I pointed out that my generation is underrepresented in positions of authority, then acknowledged that it is our own fault.

I do, however, feel obliged to point out that knee-jerk anger due to lack of comprehension is pretty much the archetype of the Blustering Boomer. So you might want to work on that.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 28, 2021 05:23 PM (lNHqD)

392 We are still having a higher daily death toll from covid than we had during WWII
Think THAT may also be scaring tge kids ? Think instead we should just be telling them that it is all "fake news"

Posted by: Kurt at December 28, 2021 05:24 PM (I4HRm)

393 ...the teachers unions demanded we shut down schools so that teachers could feel like the Laptop Class.

Reminds me of working in Germany in the 1970s. We employed a lot of drivers, but drivers were not a particularly respected class of employee. Hell, Turks could do it - why would a German want to be seen at it? So the Germans carried briefcases back and forth to work and could look more 'professional'.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at December 28, 2021 05:34 PM (K58O6)

394 Knowing our 'leadership' class, this will just be used as justification to take people's kids away and stuff them in government creches, for *Socialization!*

Posted by: Voyager at December 28, 2021 05:43 PM (u5PZm)

395 The deep state does keep dropping hints that aliens are real and here.

*eye roll*

Is anyone really taking their bait?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 28, 2021 04:09 PM (URNdm)

They are here AND real. They call themselves (pause for dramatic effect) Hungarians. (Yeah, I'm one. Bwahahahaha!!)

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at December 28, 2021 05:58 PM (Zvtjl)

396 See B.S. News tells us the Earth is the Center of the Universe and the sun and all their other planets revolve around it

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at December 28, 2021 06:20 PM (FLiOE)

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