Poll: Just 22% of American Even Want Joe Biden To Run Again

Via @CalebJHull

I'd like to see the polling numbers for how many think he even could run again. If you gave them truth serum before they answered.

The I&I/TIPP Poll gave respondents the names of 16 other possible candidates, asking "Who do you want to see run for president on the Democratic ticket in 2024?"
As mentioned, Biden was named by just 22% of those asked, while 12% mentioned Vice President Kamala Harris, whose abrasive style, lack of preparation, and revolving-door personnel changes have drawn criticism even from formerly friendly Democrats and the left-leaning media.
None of the rest rose above low single-digits: Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg garnered 4%, while New York Rep. Andrea Ocasio-Cortez, Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren, Massachusetts Rep. Joe Kennedy, and Georgia 2018 gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams each attracted 3% of the support.
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Even Democrats seem less than enthused about Biden holding the top spot. Just 37% want him there. And only 16% give Harris the nod as presidential standard-bearer, alarming given that Vice President Harris is next in line to be president should Biden not complete his term in office.

From last week: Biden loses support with his strongest constituency, young voters.

Younger Americans are a key part of Democrats' base, but they have soured on President Joe Biden.
Polling shows -- despite winning roughly three-in-five voters under age 30 -- Biden's approval rating slipping below 50 percent among the youngest segment of the electorate. That includes a new Harvard Youth Poll released Wednesday that pegs Biden at 46 percent approval among Americans aged 18 to 29, compared to 51 percent who disapprove.
It's a 13-point drop for Biden from March, when 59 percent of young Americans approved of the job Biden was doing.

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Meanwhile, the Cook Political Report has shifted eight gubernatorial races in the direction of the GOP.

Only three were moved in the Democrats' direction: Massachusetts, which was moved to a Lean D because the "Republican" governor Charlie Baker is retiring; Georgia, which moves to a toss-up I guess because Perdue is announcing a primary against incumbent Kemp and I guess because the current incumbent Stacy Abrams just announced her re-election bid; and New York, which was already lean D and now is solid D. Not sure why.

But eight move in a GOP direction, and they're eight you'd really like to win.

Most notably, Cook moved Wisconsin, Michigan, and Nevada all from "lean Democrat" to "toss up."
Wisconsin has long been considered a swing state, where the presidential race results have come within one point during the past two elections and where Evers just barely beat out former Gov. Scott Walker, a Republican, in 2018.
Since taking over the governor’s seat, however, Evers' term has not been without turmoil. The Wisconsin Democrat faced waves of criticism in 2020 both for stringent coronavirus policies and for focusing more on race relations and less on maintaining law and order after deadly riots broke out in Kenosha following a police officer shooting Jacob Blake.
The upheaval in his state has continued to dominate headlines between the exoneration of Kyle Rittenhouse -- who killed two of his attackers during one of last year's riots -- and the Waukesha parade tragedy, where a man with an extensive criminal background out on bail allegedly drove an SUV into a parade, killing seven people.
Cook cited a Marquette Law School poll that showed Evers’ approval rating "in the danger zone for an incumbent," at 45 percent approval and 46 percent disapproval.
"Most damning for Evers though was when the poll asked whether he should be re-elected," Cook noted. "Only 40% said definitely/probably, while 53% said they'd definitely/probably vote for someone else.... These are numbers an incumbent doesn't want a year out from the midterms."
The leading GOP challenger to Evers, former Lt. Gov. Rebecca Kleefisch, is proving competitive in the early stages of the race after a poll this fall found her neck and neck with the governor.

A Harvard Poll finds that Trump would beat Biden were the election held today, but, to be honest, not by as much as I'd hope, given how badly Biden is faring right now:

A new Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll reaffirmed an ongoing trend that former President Donald Trump is increasingly more popular than his successor, President Joe Biden.
Released exclusively to The Hill, the poll showed that 48 percent of likely voters would back President Trump in a 2024 matchup versus 45 percent for Joe Biden. As noted by The Hill:

The results were evenly split at 46 percent among women, while men backed Trump by a margin of 50 percent to 43 percent. Biden won urban voters by 20 percentage points and suburban voters by 4 percentage points, but Trump romped among rural voters by 33 percentage points.

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1 St!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2021 03:04 PM (dkvcO)

2 *manspreads*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2021 03:05 PM (dkvcO)

3 81 Million "votes."

Posted by: Michael Bolton at December 07, 2021 03:05 PM (SH2Zi)

4 That's the floor, right? I would have though sinking below 25% was impossible, so I imagine we're at or damn near the minimum possible figure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 07, 2021 03:06 PM (DU+/6)

5 The Others have been summoned.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2021 03:06 PM (dkvcO)

6
Meanwhile, the Republican candidate for reelection ran in '20 with historic approval from his own party.

And he won the election.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 07, 2021 03:06 PM (dtUS3)

7 Weird that it's that low. I, for one, 100% want him to run.

Posted by: Jeff at December 07, 2021 03:06 PM (Qbz/C)

8 Joy Reid was right after all. All truckers are white supremacists!!

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at December 07, 2021 03:07 PM (OalnH)

9 *Hic* I'm tanned, rested, and ready! *hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 07, 2021 03:07 PM (PiwSw)

10 So biden have his zoom chat with Pootie today ? How much is that gonna cost us I wonder

Posted by: It's me donna at December 07, 2021 03:07 PM (KktuI)

11 Most loved prezident eveah.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2021 03:07 PM (BFigT)

12 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at December 07, 2021 03:07 PM (beZmz)

13 For an instant I thought the message in the sand read "Trump 2027!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 07, 2021 03:07 PM (txdEq)

14 So biden have his zoom chat with Pootie today ? How much is that gonna cost us I wonder
Posted by: It's me donna at December 07, 2021 03:07 PM (KktuI)
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Screw you guys! What's is gonna cost *us?*

Posted by: Gas-dependent Europe at December 07, 2021 03:07 PM (DU+/6)

15 MOST.

VOTES.

EVAR.

Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2021 03:08 PM (mbFEM)

16 As mentioned, Biden was named by just 22% of those asked, while 12% mentioned Vice President Kamala Harris...

So these are the ~109 million hard core lefties that we need to eradicate, then.

Posted by: BifBewalski (IJES/) - at December 07, 2021 03:08 PM (IJES/)

17 Charlie Cooks loves himself some Tank apparently! Personally, I don't see it.

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2021 03:08 PM (5iUNf)

18 Republicans are crushing by large margins in every poll. But then when you match up Trump against Brandon, the worst President we've ever had and it becomes a three point race.

I think that should concern everyone.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 07, 2021 03:08 PM (acsaG)

19 2021 has been a suck rancid moose balls year so thank God it is almost over

Until I realized 2022 was coming

Posted by: The Maskless and Unvaxed Ranger at December 07, 2021 03:08 PM (ksCW8)

20 From last week: Biden loses support with his strongest constituency, young voters.

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That's not true. His strongest constituency is black voters. The yuuutes didn't vote for him because they liked him they voted for him because he wasn't Trump. During the primaries they fucking hated Biden.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at December 07, 2021 03:08 PM (OalnH)

21

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 07, 2021 03:08 PM (K2SnJ)

22 How bad have things got?

Russel Brand is now more conservative than Barry Goldwater.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2021 03:09 PM (iS1FW)

23 Charlie Cooks loves himself some Tank apparently! Personally, I don't see it.

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Oh dear, you should have your eyes checked. Its hard to miss.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at December 07, 2021 03:09 PM (sX1BW)

24 That Russian guy who calls himself Pootin'? I just showed him what a real poot looks like.

*sharts*

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 07, 2021 03:09 PM (/4vtq)

25
I would guess that 100% of conservatives would like Biden to run again, so we're only 22%. Seems about right.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 07, 2021 03:09 PM (dQvv7)

26 4 That's the floor, right? I would have though sinking below 25% was impossible, so I imagine we're at or damn near the minimum possible figure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix

Record low approval during 1951 is Harry Truman at 22 percent in Gallup I believe. Led to the saying To Err is Truman.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 03:09 PM (9hXN1)

27 Lol, Evers. What he can run on is being teacher union friendly and not a Republican.

Which locks up Milwaukee and Madison, but won't for certain excite them. Now his socialist Lt. Gov, he'd get their juices flowing while probably turning off even many of the want to be top shelf but really grocery store wine drinking Karens.

Posted by: Bete at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (F9322)

28 Massachusetts was a solid R? Huh.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (Ez6QX)

29 Crop Circles for Trump '24

Posted by: Muldoon at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (m45I2)

30 Are the homos angry at the LGB being hijacked? Although I suppose it's really LGBTQRS@2+* now, so maybe they haven't noticed?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (wAnMi)

31 81 million Americans disagree! Yeah, that's the ticket

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (KZzsI)

32 As mentioned, Biden was named by just 22% of those asked, while 12% mentioned Vice President Kamala Harris...
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So these are the ~109 million hard core lefties that we need to eradicate, then.
Posted by: BifBewalski (IJES/) - at December 07, 2021

***
A lot of them took the clot shot. They may not be able to vote for anybody in '24. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (txdEq)

33 That's the floor, right? I would have though sinking below 25% was impossible, so I imagine we're at or damn near the minimum possible figure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix

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There are Dems who approve of Biden but would want someone else running as well. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can't interpret this poll as 22% of Dems approve of Biden. That would be absurd.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (OalnH)

34
biden was Extremely Unpopular during the Democrat primaries.

All the Democrats were extremely unpopular.

It was so bad, the fake journalists were publishing articles about recruiting "America's boyfriend," Andrew Cuomo to take the nomination during the Democrat Convention.

Cuomo/Fauci was their "dream ticket" in the late Spring 2020.

What's more: "Any Corporeal Body 2020" is the real title of a piece published in 2020 by some cunt who was disgusted with her choice of unpopular D candidates.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (dtUS3)

35

"SO you voted for Biden?

"Yeah."

"You know he's a senile old idiot racist, and you voted for him. That's the reason things are so bad."

"Oh, well, I mean..."

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (XnbJC)

36 20 From last week: Biden loses support with his strongest constituency, young voters.
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So even Mail In Ballots don't like this fuck?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (OTXUv)

37 Crop Circles for Trump '24
Posted by: Muldoon

The aliens want to be able to pass this planet without having to lock the doors of their spacecraft.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (M4qcY)

38 Until I realized 2022 was coming
Posted by: The Maskless and Unvaxed Ranger at December 07, 2021 03:08 PM (ksCW

Yeah, we could all hardly wait for 2020. Then, could hardly wait for it to end. Bring back 1987!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (wAnMi)

39 Crop Circles for Trump '24
Posted by: Muldoon at December 07, 2021

***
Mole Men for Trump '24!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (txdEq)

40 What percent of the American public wants Joey choo-choo to stroke out and be done with his d@mn failed presidency already?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (CZb/v)

41 Cook moves NY from "likely" D to "solid" D. And SC from "likely" R to "solid" R.

That's going WAYYYY out on the limb there dude!

Posted by: blaster at December 07, 2021 03:13 PM (mbFEM)

42 There are Dems who approve of Biden but would want someone else running as well. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can't interpret this poll as 22% of Dems approve of Biden. That would be absurd.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (OalnH)
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Right, but usually if "your guy" is in office, you want him to run again. I read this as "only 22% view Biden as 'their guy.'" That doesn't mean only 22% like him or would vote for him, but that's a pretty low number.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!0 at December 07, 2021 03:13 PM (DU+/6)

43 40 What percent of the American public wants Joey choo-choo to stroke out and be done with his d@mn failed presidency already?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (CZb/v)

The part of the Public named Kamala Harris.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 03:13 PM (trdmm)

44 I'm sorry but Maine is a lost cause unless you run someone like a Charlie Baker up here.

The place has been invaded by Massholes who vote for the same sh*t that made them leave that hellhole.

It's such nonsense to even hope LePage could get re-elected here.

Posted by: Defenestratus at December 07, 2021 03:13 PM (G+CYN)

45 Anyone who still has one of those "In this house, we believe..." signs in his front yard is in the 22%.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!0 at December 07, 2021 03:14 PM (DU+/6)

46 I wish he was gone midnight tonight

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2021 03:14 PM (2JoB8)

47 18 Republicans are crushing by large margins in every poll. But then when you match up Trump against Brandon, the worst President we've ever had and it becomes a three point race.

I think that should concern everyone.

Posted by: Marcus T

2-3 years in politics is a long time Marcus. Trump may not run, further disasters may befall us in the US, the Republicans may screw it up if winning Congress in 2022, Harris might be president, who knows. Trump is a known quantity with a limited degree of upside and a more limited degree of downside. Sort of like Jesse Helms was in NC. The 12 percent undecided tell the tale.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 03:14 PM (9hXN1)

48 In four days I will be a resident of Missouri!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 07, 2021 03:14 PM (ezX5B)

49 GA wants that fat racist blimp for Gov. ? Georgia we hardly knew ye

Posted by: It's me donna at December 07, 2021 03:14 PM (KktuI)

50 I don't know a single person who wants this Leprechaun Clown, Hochul, as governor.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 07, 2021 03:14 PM (acsaG)

51
What happened was billionaires mike bloomberg and tom steyer got together and arranged the rigging of the election, including securing the nomination for biden.

Little mike bloomberg and tom steyer hated Trump so much, they bribed, paid off, threatened, killed, and blackmailed whoever they needed to get biden in the White House.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 07, 2021 03:14 PM (dtUS3)

52 Its nice to see the Greys have decided to come out against the current occupants of the White House.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 07, 2021 03:14 PM (TNyrE)

53 #lgb

Posted by: Flyover at December 07, 2021 03:14 PM (Rbu5d)

54 Willowed:

Someone asked Ringo once who the greatest Beatle was, and he pointed out that the band was nothing before him. I think he was only half joking.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at December 07, 2021 02:52 PM (o0mD3)

Someone once asked Lennon if Ringo was the best drummer in the world, to which he responded, "he's not even the best drummer in the Beatles."

One beauty of the Anthology series is that people who claimed Pete Best was unfairly fired were served solid audio evidence that he was a shit drummer with one trick (some sort of roll) up his sleeve.

But, as a Beatles bio once pointed out - and, I thought, very accurately - until they were signed to EMI, the Beatles were essentially a 50s cover band. Had Ringo not come along, they might well have stayed small-time and not launched the British Invasion.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 07, 2021 03:14 PM (2JVJo)

55 Maybe I missed it, but did anyone run the numbers to see how Michelle Obama would fare? Lefties love them some reruns, and I'm sure they'd all just cream themselves at the thought of the power duo back in the white house.

Posted by: red speck at December 07, 2021 03:15 PM (gS3OW)

56 The polls don't mean anything to me, but its meaningful that the press is pushing the poll data. Prepping the man being removed/stepping down from office? Its really hard to be sure what is going on.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2021 03:15 PM (KZzsI)

57 so with the retirement of Baker, Mass moves from fake republican to Real Democrat. Now there's some big change for ya.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 03:15 PM (trdmm)

58 Back in 2020, Joe could dropped out and retired to a quite life of watching Hunter cornhole Jill while he spent his stolen millions on comet pizza and ice cream.

He just didn't know when to quit...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 07, 2021 03:16 PM (tMjLZ)

59 >Meanwhile, the Republican candidate for reelection ran in '20 with historic approval from his own party.

And he won the election.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 07, 2021 03:06 PM (dtUS3)

And as the incumbent picked up a huge number of votes from his previous election, yet still "lost" to a guy who racked up a world-beating score somehow and then has poll numbers in completely in the shitter one year later.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 07, 2021 03:16 PM (cSs/W)

60 If I had to bet, I'd still say Wretched will be re-elected in Michigan. They bought the UAW vote with the blanket exemptions for the "vaccines".

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2021 03:16 PM (Do5/p)

61 I really think NY deserves The Blaze as Governor. Fuck them. Fuck them hard.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 07, 2021 03:16 PM (OTXUv)

62 Strangely, in the past couple of months I've seen more Biden/Harris bumper stickers than I ever saw before the election. Like 4 or 5 cars. Of course, you can guess what other bumper stickers are on the Volvo/Subaru/Prius (because there's NEVER just one). I always get along side these people to give them the stink eye, and they ALWAYS look like you'd imagine.

And, believe it or not, one of them wasn't wearing a mask.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:16 PM (wAnMi)

63 A lot of them took the clot shot. They may not be able to vote for anybody in '24. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (txdEq)

Like that has ever stopped someone from voting "D" before.

Posted by: Bete at December 07, 2021 03:16 PM (F9322)

64 >>So even Mail In Ballots don't like this fuck?

Heh.
You mustn't speak il of the dead -- but you should hear what the dead say about Broken Brain Biden!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 07, 2021 03:16 PM (CZb/v)

65 28 Massachusetts was a solid R? Huh.

I know, right? Baker is as solid an R as Chris Christie. Latest I heard, he was weighing vax mandates statewide. Sooper conservative, you guys.

Posted by: red speck at December 07, 2021 03:16 PM (gS3OW)

66
Trump won 18/19 of the "bellweather" counties.

He probably won 19/19, but one was stolen.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 07, 2021 03:17 PM (dtUS3)

67 Willowed

Is Buck Dharma's non stage name Donald Roeser?

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at December 07, 2021 03:17 PM (y7DUB)

68 Bring back 1987!
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (wAnMi)

1987 was a great year.

Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 03:17 PM (mZUr4)

69 3 in 5 young voters voted for Biden? How f-king crazy are they?

Posted by: Gonzotx at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (l4jD1)

70 1987 was a great year.
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 03:17 PM (mZUr4)

Almost every year looks great compared to this one

Posted by: It's me donna at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (KktuI)

71 This is what happens when you allow an election to be stolen.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (5kI0z)

72 >>He just didn't know when to quit...

Maybe it's that those who bought him wouldn't let him exit -- lord knows they had enough blackmail material on the family thanks to crackhead f#ckup Hunter.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (CZb/v)

73 Lefties love them some reruns, and I'm sure they'd all just cream themselves at the thought of the power duo back in the white house.

I agree, but I get the very strong sense that Michelle Obama does not want to run for anything or work at any job.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (KZzsI)

74 @54

>>Had Ringo not come along, they might well have stayed small-time and not launched the British Invasion.

One of the amazing aspects of the Get Back doc is you see them conjure these songs out of the ether and Ringo is right there filling those holes and coming up with memorable drum hooks.

Another scene has Ringo and Paul doing a Honky Tonk Piano Duet.

It's really an awesome doc.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (iS1FW)

75 1987 was a great year.
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 03:17 PM (mZUr4)

The year I met my husband, in economics class.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (Ez6QX)

76 Is Buck Dharma's non stage name Donald Roeser?
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at December 07, 2021 03:17 PM (y7DUB)

Yes.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (wAnMi)

77 49 GA wants that fat racist blimp for Gov. ? Georgia we hardly knew ye

Posted by: It's me donna

Cook Political Report is primarily directed at campaign donors as evidence for political fundraisers to get money. Wave elections generally start about July so start taking their ratings more seriously then. Abrams is a lock for the Dem primary.

In some ways, I think she is running as a defense against the voter fraud allegations against her organization which was involved in several urban and suburban Atlanta counties.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (9hXN1)

78 Ore. Solid D --> Likely D

lol. Kate "mask permanently" Brown may have the lowest gubernatorial approval rating in the US. But there's no freaking way Oregonians are going to elect an R to be governor. Not even a GOPe squish.

D 4ever in that state.

Posted by: Hands at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (786Ro)

79 29 Crop Circles for Trump '24
Posted by: Muldoon at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (m45I2)

Lol

Posted by: Flyover at December 07, 2021 03:19 PM (Rbu5d)

80 "2-3 years in politics is a long time Marcus. Trump may not run, further disasters may befall us in the US, the Republicans may screw it up if winning Congress in 2022, Harris might be president, who knows. Trump is a known quantity with a limited degree of upside and a more limited degree of downside. Sort of like Jesse Helms was in NC. The 12 percent undecided tell the tale.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 03:14 PM (9hXN1)"

Indeed it is. But if Trump's recent interviews are any indicative he's going to be problematic. He can't stay on message and meanders through these discussions like an old reminiscing grandpa. I don't see that polling well. Hope I'm wrong about that. Truly.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 07, 2021 03:19 PM (acsaG)

81 If Arizona is truly a toss-up, according to Charlie Cook, I would suggest those who consider themselves undecided spend a month in neighboring California or New Mexico. Hopefully, that should set them straight.

Sadly, I've learned over the past few years that the McLame/Flake taint is interwoven in my state.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 07, 2021 03:19 PM (TNyrE)

82 And this is WITH the media fellating Pedo Joe and the democrats 24/7/365.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 07, 2021 03:19 PM (iDcra)

83 I read "given how badly Biden is faring" as "given how badly Biden is farting".

Posted by: Pete in Texas at December 07, 2021 03:19 PM (n9mng)

84 What percent of the American public wants Joey choo-choo to stroke out and be done with his d@mn failed presidency already?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (CZb/v)

The part of the Public named Kamala Harris.

I wonder how many food tasters the White House has 'retired' in the last year.

Posted by: Methos at December 07, 2021 03:20 PM (kOpft)

85 44 I'm sorry but Maine is a lost cause unless you run someone like a Charlie Baker up here..

The entire State of Maine has the same population as the City of Dallas. Not the metro area, which is 3 - 4 times that; just the city itself.

It's a shame Maine gets two senators.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 03:20 PM (trdmm)

86 1987 was a great year.
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 03:17 PM (mZUr4)

Concur, was the year I made warrant officer in Army ADA

Posted by: BifBewalski (IJES/) - at December 07, 2021 03:20 PM (IJES/)

87
Record low unemployment for blacks and women in 2019!

Lowest Unemployment for women and blacks in 60 years.

People didn't like that, for some odd reason.

My ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer -- at December 07, 2021 03:20 PM (dtUS3)

88 I know, right? Baker is as solid an R as Chris Christie. Latest I heard, he was weighing vax mandates statewide. Sooper conservative, you guys.

Posted by: red speck

Read a story, think it was politico, but that Baker was the last of the GOPe Brahmins like noted Republican cum libertarian Bill Weld in Mass and retired because he was likely to lose in the GOP primary.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 03:21 PM (9hXN1)

89 "You know he's a senile old idiot racist, and you voted for him. That's the reason things are so bad."

"Oh, well, I mean..."
Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (XnbJC)

Don't forget pedophile. And plagiarist.

Posted by: Flyover at December 07, 2021 03:21 PM (Rbu5d)

90 But there's no freaking way Oregonians are going to elect an R to be governor. Not even a GOPe squish.

Well, let's put it this way: Oregonians might vote a Republican governor in, but the people who count the votes will make sure that they don't win.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2021 03:21 PM (KZzsI)

91 Maybe it's that those who bought him wouldn't let him exit -- lord knows they had enough blackmail material on the family thanks to crackhead f#ckup Hunter.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (CZb/v)

Excellent point. I think Joe ran to keep his family from going to the slammer and it's worked so far.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 07, 2021 03:21 PM (tMjLZ)

92 Massachusetts wouldn't know a Republican if it crawled so far up their ass, it winked at them in the mirror and held up a big sign with "Republican" on it.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 07, 2021 03:21 PM (acsaG)

93 Sadly, I've learned over the past few years that the McLame/Flake taint is interwoven in my state.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 07, 2021 03:19 PM (TNyrE)

The great irony is that, in practice, the liberal Sinema has turned out to be more conservative than either Flake or McLame ever were.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 03:21 PM (trdmm)

94 Crop Circles for Trump '24
Posted by: Muldoon at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM

This is about us, isn't it?

Posted by: The Aliens at December 07, 2021 03:21 PM (dkvcO)

95 The picture from Missouri is Russian disinformation,

They carved it with one of their new space-based laser systems in violation of START treaties from last century to support Orange Man Bad (their puppet).

No true America would ever write that - Lincoln Project

Posted by: Scott_T at December 07, 2021 03:21 PM (2waQ7)

96 If we allow Cadaver Joe to shuffle around in the halls of the deep state for another 50 years, maybe he can double his favorability with the whippersnappers.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 07, 2021 03:22 PM (BPuaD)

97 @90

>>Well, let's put it this way: Oregonians might vote a Republican governor in, but the people who count the votes will make sure that they don't win.

Oregon, I believe is universal mail in ballot state, so, no, a Republican will never be elected Governor.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2021 03:22 PM (iS1FW)

98 Run again? Hell, what I want is for him to stumble across the truth somewhere in his 'brain' and have that truth gush out of his mouth. Tourette's-like, he blurts 'I know the election was stolen and I really lost, anyway soros and ubama told me it would all be ok since they would tell me what to do and say. But I'm really scared of this colored woman who I see around the Whitehouse acting like she owns the place.'

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2021 03:22 PM (0OP+5)

99 Massachusetts wouldn't know a Republican if it crawled so far up their ass, it winked at them in the mirror and held up a big sign with "Republican" on it.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 07, 2021 03:21 PM

Sadly, I rate this as true.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2021 03:22 PM (dkvcO)

100 If I had to bet, I'd still say Wretched will be re-elected in Michigan. They bought the UAW vote with the blanket exemptions for the "vaccines".
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2021 03:16 PM (Do5/p)

I said over a year ago she was a shoo-in for re-election and she was going to boast about how she stood for 'science' and beat back the kung flu.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 07, 2021 03:23 PM (2JVJo)

101 Biden still has the support of his largest and strongest constituency: 1400% of the growing illegal alien and dead voters.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 07, 2021 03:23 PM (wBKeK)

102 I am just thrilled at the prospect of a Republican wave election, or even two, in 22 and 24.

Just think of how completely they can betray us if they hold the WH, Senate, and House.

Posted by: Eeyore at December 07, 2021 03:23 PM (7X3UV)

103 A lot of them took the clot shot. They may not be able to vote for anybody in '24. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (txdEq)

Or they join The Most Reliable Democrat Voting Block Ever!

Posted by: tbodie at December 07, 2021 03:24 PM (mE8HP)

104 It's sort of interesting that rezident retard's polling numbers are in the shitter with his brain at about the same time a number of high profile talking heads over at CNN and MSNBC decide to bail (or get canned.)

As they say... "someone set up us the bomb."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2021 03:24 PM (BFigT)

105 Kamala Harris -- Still More Popular Than A Case Of The Clap

Neck And Neck With Cold Sores

Way Ahead Of Syphilis
*******

Some of these campaign slogans might need a bit of tweaking, or twerking.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 07, 2021 03:24 PM (F0YaR)

106 "Sadly, I rate this as true.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 07, 2021 03:22 PM (dkvcO)"

Don't worry. In New York, we say Republicans are like Sasquatch. Nobody believes they exist until we actually catch one.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 07, 2021 03:24 PM (acsaG)

107 The entire State of Maine has the same population as the City of Dallas. Not the metro area, which is 3 - 4 times that; just the city itself.

It's a shame Maine gets two senators.

--------------

Cede it back to Massachusettes.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at December 07, 2021 03:25 PM (sX1BW)

108 Indeed it is. But if Trump's recent interviews are any indicative he's going to be problematic. He can't stay on message and meanders through these discussions like an old reminiscing grandpa. I don't see that polling well. Hope I'm wrong about that. Truly.

Posted by: Marcus T

The difference in a two person race is that Biden will be in even worse shape in 2024 if he lives and Harris is spectacularly unpopular and feckless. When your VP office is panned as poorly functioning, that is unprecedented even among the VPs. In addition, she is having to actually vote in a lot of cases on unpopular Dem legislation which makes it hard to run against Congress. So against a fresh face, Trump might have issues but that means that Biden or Harris get dumped which is unlikely.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 03:25 PM (9hXN1)

109 This is a great article on Ringo and his aesthetic:

https://tinyurl.com/2p8jxu5h

I've seen many articles about him in drumming magazines, and most retroactively acknowledge his genius. Especially for a self-taught musician.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:25 PM (wAnMi)

110 Shit for brains soured for the young folks I know when they figured out they had been played for anykind of tuition debt relief. I make sure to let them know how easily they were bought, just like the folks that like Mayor Pete because he's gay.

Posted by: pawn at December 07, 2021 03:25 PM (kYVzH)

111 1987 was a great year.
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021 03:17 PM (mZUr4)

I can't recall 1987, but whatever I was doing, I'm sure of three things:
- I was drunk off my ass;
- I hated whatever job I had;
- I hated myself.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 07, 2021 03:26 PM (2JVJo)

112 only 16% give Harris the nod as presidential standard-bearer, alarming given that Vice President Harris is next in line to be president

Needs more positioning

Posted by: Hands at December 07, 2021 03:26 PM (786Ro)

113 what Eromero said @98 !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 07, 2021 03:26 PM (03BbD)

114 62...And, believe it or not, one of them wasn't wearing a mask.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:16 PM (wAnMi)

It was airing out on the rear view mirror, you h8ter!1!11!

Posted by: Fat lady with the blue hair in the prius at December 07, 2021 03:27 PM (Rbu5d)

115 Read a story, think it was politico, but that Baker was the last of the GOPe Brahmins like noted Republican cum libertarian Bill Weld in Mass and retired because he was likely to lose in the GOP primary.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 03:21 PM (9hXN1)

Also Cook just gages enthusiasm from donors and volunteers at this stage. Yeah, Baker isn't going to make it. But Cook's love for Abrams is dumb and based on outside $$. Her fortress of cheat in certain counties around Atlanta is being dismantled as we speak.

Georgia, I think, was a one and done. The problems there with the 2020 election were so ridiculously apparent and the SOS made such a ninny of himself, that she's not going to be allowed to flood the streets with walking around ballot money, no matter how much Zuck Bucks are tossed into the mix.

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2021 03:27 PM (5iUNf)

116 So against a fresh face, Trump might have issues but that means that Biden or Harris get dumped which is unlikely.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 03:25 PM (9hXN1)

I don't and won't make any serious 2024 predictions, because I think a whole flock of Black Swans will be taking wing before we get there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 03:28 PM (trdmm)

117 Only in a bizarro world can a Jake "Benghazi, Russia Hoax" Sullivan be taken seriously

Posted by: Bottom at December 07, 2021 03:28 PM (us2H3)

118 105 Kamala Harris -- Still More Popular Than A Case Of The Clap

Neck And Neck With Cold Sores

Way Ahead Of Syphilis
*******
We need to rename Genital Warts Kamala Harris.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 07, 2021 03:28 PM (OTXUv)

119 >D 4ever in that state.
Posted by: Hands at December 07, 2021 03:18 PM (786Ro)

Mail in ballots for lyfe, hehe
--Dems

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 07, 2021 03:28 PM (cSs/W)

120 I can't recall 1987, but whatever I was doing, I'm sure of three things:
- I was drunk off my ass;
- I hated whatever job I had;
- I hated myself.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 07, 2021 03:26 PM (2JVJo)

I had been married for a couple of months, had owned my business for about a year, was being acknowledged in the industry and thought I was invincible.

Barely took 10 years for reality to rear its ugly head.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:28 PM (wAnMi)

121 The great irony is that, in practice, the liberal Sinema has turned out to be more conservative than either Flake or McLame ever were.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 03:21 PM (trdmm)

--------------
Without a doubt, I prefer Sinema to either of those wretched RINOs. I hope that the de-facto purge of those two from state-wide offices was the first step to righting the Republican ship in AZ.

November 2022 should confirm or deny that to be the case.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 07, 2021 03:29 PM (TNyrE)

122 How about Kramala??

Posted by: runner at December 07, 2021 03:29 PM (APnjM)

123 "The difference in a two person race is that Biden will be in even worse shape in 2024 if he lives and Harris is spectacularly unpopular and feckless. When your VP office is panned as poorly functioning, that is unprecedented even among the VPs. In addition, she is having to actually vote in a lot of cases on unpopular Dem legislation which makes it hard to run against Congress. So against a fresh face, Trump might have issues but that means that Biden or Harris get dumped which is unlikely.
Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 03:25 PM (9hXN1)"

And that's where we disagree. You won't see Biden or Harris in the next race. The party knows they snuck this one past the voters. There is no way they would run either of them again. They will look for a new face to put in front of their Destruction of America campaign. One who can "sell" it better and can get to their core demo of younger voters. Look at the polls on issues. These liberals think the agenda is right. They just think Biden is the wrong guy to deliver it.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 07, 2021 03:29 PM (acsaG)

124 72...lord knows they had enough blackmail material on the family thanks to crackhead f#ckup Hunter.

DOCTOR Homewrecker Jill has got to be corrupt, too.

Posted by: Fat lady with the blue hair in the prius at December 07, 2021 03:30 PM (Rbu5d)

125 It was airing out on the rear view mirror, you h8ter!1!11!
Posted by: Fat lady with the blue hair in the prius at December 07, 2021 03:27 PM (Rbu5d)

You fucking nailed it.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:30 PM (wAnMi)

126 Another great post, ace is so hot right now.

Posted by: Dr Spank at December 07, 2021 03:30 PM (ALrw1)

127 and New York, which was already lean D and now is solid D. Not sure why.

++

all those who would vote against the current machine have either (a) died, and become permanent Dem voters; or (b) left the state or are preparing to (see @karol's announcement on Meghan Kelly today).

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at December 07, 2021 03:30 PM (tixeB)

128 Yeah, I just boned you cons again

but I stopped Merrick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: TURTLE at December 07, 2021 03:30 PM (us2H3)

129 The left will always blame the messenger. Their policies are always the right ones no matter how many times they fail.

Posted by: 29Victor at December 07, 2021 03:30 PM (BJKQV)

130 "I don't and won't make any serious 2024 predictions, because I think a whole flock of Black Swans will be taking wing before we get there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 03:28 PM (trdmm) "

Common sense !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 07, 2021 03:30 PM (03BbD)

131 Why not Khlamydia Harris?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 07, 2021 03:31 PM (BPuaD)

132 I love how everyone assumed Kamala would be president by like April of 2021 and now everyone apparently assumes she'll never be president.

He's not gonna make it four years. She will replace him and run again.

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (CJznt)

133 Interesting.

I saw an article that moved Jonah Goldberg from Tosser to Leans D.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (7F9te)

134 Do the Younger Americans all wear black shirts or am I confused about that part of the sentence??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (UHVv4)

135 122 How about Kramala??
Posted by: runner at December 07, 2021 03:29 PM (APnjM)

gonna tear me off a piece of that trash

Posted by: Jussie, I'm not gay at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (us2H3)

136 We have a chance in AZ for an actual conservative, Kari Lake, for governor in 2022 and taking down Soros Stooge Katie Hobbs -- who helped steal elections here as Secretary of State

McCain cabal buttboy squish Ducey has been term-limited out.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (wBKeK)

137 GA Gov doesn't seem like a tossup in a Biden at sub-40% environment. Perdue/Kemp are bad candidates, but Tank Abrams hasn't exactly endeared herself to the broader GA electorate since the last go round. (Yes, I know, no elections will ever won again, republic is over, etc.)

Posted by: Match Checksout at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (dYe5S)

138 Crenshaw warns We have grifters in our midst.
Wow

Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (hzMvv)

139 131 Why not Khlamydia Harris?
----------------
Does Khlamydia smell as bad as Genital Warts?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 07, 2021 03:33 PM (OTXUv)

140 Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:28 PM (wAnMi)

LUCKY!

I've had reality crawl up my ass and wink at me in the mirror with a sign saying "YOU'RE F**KED" within days after beginning something new. But because I'm a optimistic cynic I had to give myself and the new a chance. I hate that when I know I've f**ked up but want to give it a try anyway. When I should just cave right off the bat. I started doing that later in life and have wound up being alone most of the time so in a way I was right and I was wrong which is my life story.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 07, 2021 03:33 PM (1hoTV)

141 Much as I admire Trump, I think the Media has successfully demonized him to the LIV. He would have to have a tremendously successful ground campaign to overcome this, and I don't see the Media backing down.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 07, 2021 03:33 PM (p+1gI)

142 I don't want Trump to run again in 2024 just due to age. I mean, if he's the nominee I'll vote for him, obvs, but still.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at December 07, 2021 03:33 PM (mf5HN)

143 Joy Reid was right after all. All truckers are white supremacists!!
Posted by: Joe XiDen

Que?
♪
South of the border, down Mexico way, coming straight at'choo with no brakes today, -8 bald tires on my truck, hope you have plenty luck! ♫

Posted by: Jose at December 07, 2021 03:33 PM (M4qcY)

144 1987 was a great year for movies. Part 1...

The Untouchables
Throw Momma From the Train
Three Men and a Baby
Three O'Clock High
Spaceballs
Roxanne
Robocop
Raising Arizona

(*dammit Pixy this isn't spam)

Posted by: Hands at December 07, 2021 03:33 PM (786Ro)

145 1987 was a great year for movies. Part 2...

The Princess Bride
Predator
Planes, Trains & Automobiles
The Lost Boys
Lethal Weapon
Full Metal Jacket
Fatal Attraction
Evil Dead II

(*dammit Pixy this isn't spam)

Posted by: Hands at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM (786Ro)

146 It's gotta grind Commie Lay's gears that she's less popular than a visibly senile white man.

You have to remember, though, that she was forced to drop out of the primary without winning a single delegate, and was added to the ticket simply because she has melanin and a vagina.

Biden was never very popular with da yoot vote, and is even less popular now that he hasn't delivered on student loan forgiveness. He got a legal opinion on whether or not he was allowed to do that unilaterally, and has been sitting on that opinion for nearly a year without revealing what it was.

If the opinion was against it, and he's bluffing, it's going to be ugly, ugly, ugly when that becomes known.

On the other hand, if the opinion says he can do it, be looking for that to be a last-minute surprise tactic, possibly before the midterms. "Here's your free money, kids, now get out and vote D!"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM (bW8dp)

147 Does Khlamydia smell as bad as Genital Warts?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 07, 2021 03:33 PM (OTXUv)

Ten day old fish on the dock in Denmark.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM (1hoTV)

148 130 "I don't and won't make any serious 2024 predictions, because I think a whole flock of Black Swans will be taking wing before we get there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 03:28 PM (trdmm) "

I call em clay pigeons

pull

Posted by: 12 Ga Trump at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM (us2H3)

149 Put me in the camp that any Democrat has a coin flip chance against Trump. Even Biden.

Too many people have just made up their mind about Trump. If that race is within the margin of error against a collapsed Presidency with Biden, I'd want another GOP option.

Even if I was absolutely certain Trump would win in 2024, I think there's better alternatives like DeSantis.

Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM (PwNLq)

150 Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at December 07, 2021 03:33 PM (mf5HN)

I agree

Posted by: It's me donna at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM (KktuI)

151 All these survey numbers just making the rubble bounce, in terms of confirming what a ridiculously stupid, unserious, and easily manipulated populace living all around us making the world a much worse place.

An absurd, absurd figure like Biden, with no campaign, and jaw-dropping statements like ending the oil industry (and similar statements across the board on all issues) winning more states than McGovern cannot be imagined away.

And the vapid suburban Republican voters who have a hamster's understanding of any serious issues (including those directly affecting them) who whine like dumb 10-yr olds about style and other fluff (while also not even knowing about 90% of what Trump did or tried to do) are every bit as big a problem as the airhead Dem voters, whether racist tribalists, self-dealing public sector garbage, or dumber-than-ever younger people.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM (OTzUX)

152 Much as I admire Trump, I think the Media has successfully demonized him to the LIV.

They spent 4 years demonizing him and he got more votes than any presidential candidate in human history in 2020 (Biden supposedly got more but we know that's crap).

If he can somehow defeat the voter fraud, he can win. But I mean, he knew it was gonna be bad and barely even tried last time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM (KZzsI)

153 I don't believe we have enough short buses for the mouth breathers who still support Joey.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:35 PM (ptqGC)

154 We have a chance in AZ for an actual conservative, Kari Lake, for governor in 2022 and taking down Soros Stooge Katie Hobbs -- who helped steal elections here as Secretary of State

McCain cabal buttboy squish Ducey has been term-limited out.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (wBKeK)

--------------------
I'm all in for Kari Lake. It would be nice to get something approaching Ron DeSantis as governor of this state.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 07, 2021 03:35 PM (TNyrE)

155 1987 was a great year for movies

Yeah but you can do that pretty much any year from 1939 to 1999.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2021 03:35 PM (KZzsI)

156
I love how everyone assumed Kamala would be president by like April of 2021 and now everyone apparently assumes she'll never be president.

He's not gonna make it four years. She will replace him and run again.
Posted by: ... at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (CJznt)

-------

I'm with you. I think this the usual cunty DC soap opera storyline, and that what appears the simplest explanation for the Party & State's motives - to use Brandon as a chairwarmer for the BJ Queen - is the correct one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 07, 2021 03:35 PM (2ABQr)

157 Kamal Harris - Not as annoying as Hillary Clinton

Wait! I don't think that is even true.

May have to stick with More Popular That the Clap

Posted by: Ripley at December 07, 2021 03:35 PM (MxEKc)

158 123...One who can "sell" it better and can get to their core demo of younger voters. Look at the polls on issues. These liberals think the agenda is right. They just think Biden is the wrong guy to deliver it.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 07, 2021 03:29 PM (acsaG)

Tulsi Gabbard.
?

Posted by: Flyover at December 07, 2021 03:35 PM (Rbu5d)

159 There are Dems who approve of Biden but would want someone else running as well. The two are not mutually exclusive. You can't interpret this poll as 22% of Dems approve of Biden. That would be absurd.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at December 07, 2021 03:11 PM (OalnH)

I know twatter is barely a fringe of crazies at this point, but it's really amazing at how many people act as if this clown is some sort of voice of reason and normality. Is it all just driven by an insane fear of Trump? Do they really think things are better? Or are 78% of the commenters really bots? As a positive, it's entirely possible that twatter isn't even going to be a factor by the time 2024 rolls around. Which is fine by me.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:35 PM (wAnMi)

160 I love Pres Trump but I think 2024 should see the Fl gov as the candidate or someone like him.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at December 07, 2021 03:35 PM (hV9ir)

161 138 Crenshaw warns We have grifters in our midst.
Wow
Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (hzMvv)

I'll keep an eye out for em

Posted by: Jack at December 07, 2021 03:36 PM (us2H3)

162 Cum libertarians are chemjeff's favourites!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 07, 2021 03:36 PM (UHVv4)

163 I think when you get to the point in life where people are starting to wonder whether letting you continue to drive is a good idea, it time to take a step back and look at the landscape.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 07, 2021 03:36 PM (acsaG)

164 Much as I admire Trump, I think the Media has successfully demonized him to the LIV. He would have to have a tremendously successful ground campaign to overcome this, and I don't see the Media backing down.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm

Anyone else that runs, unless they have fuck you money and a silver plated intestinal track that can withstand a microscope colonoscopy, they will be owned by the largest donors.

Always have been. Always will be.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2021 03:36 PM (M4qcY)

165 >>>Does Khlamydia smell as bad as Genital Warts?

<It's subjective of course. Do you prefer sourdough bread or a slab of cheese? If you have COVID nose, almost certainly the stank may not exist.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 07, 2021 03:37 PM (BPuaD)

166 Good thing that DeSantis can't be demonized to the idiots who think the NYT and NPR are "news". Or to their even less informed tribal voting blocs.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2021 03:37 PM (OTzUX)

167 Biden could have 0% approval, it won't matter.

He won't run again, I'm sure, but look at the list of names also mentioned. No one in the D party is popular.

It doesn't matter. The vote rigging whales in a handful of cities will swing the election.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 07, 2021 03:37 PM (aEJX/)

168 Posted by: Hands at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM (786Ro)

there is no accounting for taste

Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2021 03:37 PM (us2H3)

169 Maybe the Dems will nominate the all bitch ticket in 2024 - Whore/Tank

Posted by: IC - #FJB at December 07, 2021 03:37 PM (hV9ir)

170 And that's where we disagree. You won't see Biden or Harris in the next race. The party knows they snuck this one past the voters. There is no way they would run either of them again. They will look for a new face to put in front of their Destruction of America campaign. One who can "sell" it better and can get to their core demo of younger voters. Look at the polls on issues. These liberals think the agenda is right. They just think Biden is the wrong guy to deliver it.

Posted by: Marcus T

The issue with a new fresh face is that they will still have to defend disastrous policies plus internal politicos can lose their position. Getting rid of Kamala would be problematic is she is president because of identity politics as the first woman president and of color. Biden could be gotten rid of but internal party problems such as 1968 when Humphrey ran or in 1984 and 88, VP candidates prevailed over fresh faces in the Democratic nomination in 84 and the Republican in 88. Biden technically might have beaten Hillary in 2016 but given Hillary's scorched earth politics would have sank J. Biden via his family and graft.

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 03:37 PM (9hXN1)

171
EXCLUSIVE TRANSCRIPT FROM TODAY'S PUTIN - BIDEN MEETING --

Vladimir: "Joe, idiot says what?"
Slow Joe: "What?"
Vladimir: "Joe, idiot says what?"
Slow Joe: "What?"
Vladimir: "Joe, idiot says what?"
Slow Joe: "What?"
...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 07, 2021 03:37 PM (HayJi)

172 I'm all in for Kari Lake. It would be nice to get something approaching Ron DeSantis as governor of this state.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle
___

I love Keri Lake and I think she's going to win.

Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 03:37 PM (PwNLq)

173 The scary part of this story is the part that isn't written. I'm guessing, and it's a pretty safe bet I think, that the reason for Biden's drop in popularity among younger voters is that he hasn't yet gathered up all of the filthy Trump rednecks and sent them to the ovens where they belong.

Biden's falling popularity doesn't necessarily mean that more people are coming to our side. It's just as likely that it means people think (and I use that term very loosely) that Biden has not gone far enough towards their side.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 07, 2021 03:38 PM (lNHqD)

174 133 Interesting.

I saw an article that moved Jonah Goldberg from Tosser to Leans D.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (7F9te)

--------

Heh. I'm pretty sure he goes both ways ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 07, 2021 03:38 PM (wBKeK)

175 "Tulsi Gabbard.
?
Posted by: Flyover at December 07, 2021 03:35 PM (Rbu5d)"

I would say yes, but the party despises her.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 07, 2021 03:38 PM (acsaG)

176 And who would be paying for DeSantis's campaign? I like the guy but he will be beholding to someone for the money. We've seen too many candidates start strong and end up worse than useless because they owe the wrong people

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 07, 2021 03:38 PM (5HBd1)

177 Time for another God Kamala sucks article!

Seriously they want to remove both of these toads and install Pete Buttpump. Funny to see his numbers are worse.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2021 03:38 PM (NazZr)

178 My Georgia has been New Yorked. We're overrun with pinch-faced liberal Karens, too.

Tank Abrams could actually be our next governor, with Dominion's and Ratshitberger's help.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:38 PM (ptqGC)

179 I want Trump to run again. He deserves his victory.

He has by far the most and strongest built-in support, and for anyone concerned about his image among low-fos and other assorted nimrods and miscreants, trust me the media will ruin ANY Republican for them too.

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2021 03:39 PM (CJznt)

180 I saw an article that moved Jonah Goldberg from Tosser to ~~Leans~~ Swallows D.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (7F9te)
++++
FIFY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!0 at December 07, 2021 03:39 PM (DU+/6)

181 > He's not gonna make it four years. She will replace him and run again.

Well, someone's going to replace him. Might not be her. Ballot box poison that she is, someone in the party may leak damaging info, leading her to resign to spend more time with her family (for example, managing her ugly-ass stepdaughter's "modeling career").

But who else do they have? ButtJizz is going to lose the black church vote right off the top, and that's still a very, very large bloc. Mooch is never going to do anything that looks like work again in her life.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2021 03:39 PM (bW8dp)

182 (*dammit Pixy this isn't spam)
Posted by: Hands at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM (786Ro)

Wow, I had no idea so many favorites were in there. I'd have sworn a few of those came out in the 90's. Just goes to show how many in hollywood still had functioning brains before the coke permanently damaged them.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:39 PM (wAnMi)

183 Tulsi has some Bernie tier ideas that are just awful. She is charismatic and it's clear she doesn't hate white people (if she does she hides it really well).

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at December 07, 2021 03:39 PM (NazZr)

184 I desperately want Biden/Harris to run again.

Please, please, please...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 07, 2021 03:40 PM (I2/tG)

185 163 I think when you get to the point in life where people are starting to wonder whether letting you continue to drive is a good idea, it time to take a step back and look at the landscape.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 07, 2021 03:36 PM (acsaG)

The best comment that this lurker has read here so far this month. Thanks.

Posted by: kraken at December 07, 2021 03:40 PM (6Je/Q)

186 And who would be paying for DeSantis's campaign? I like the guy but he will be beholding to someone for the money. We've seen too many candidates start strong and end up worse than useless because they owe the wrong people
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward
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Trump didn't put a nickel into his general election campaign either time, despite being a billionaire.

Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 03:40 PM (PwNLq)

187 Eighty-one million votes, bitches!

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at December 07, 2021 03:40 PM (I2/tG)

188 155 1987 was a great year for movies

Yeah but you can do that pretty much any year from 1939 to 1999.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2021 03:35 PM (KZzsI)

True, but I think 1939 stands out anyway. Best Picture nominees:

Dark Victory, Gone with the Wind (Best Picture Winner), Goodbye, Mr. Chips, Love Affair, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, The Wizard of Oz, Wuthering Heights

Hard to top this list.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 07, 2021 03:41 PM (De/Wj)

189 Huh.

We have a bunch of open positions are getting such a paucity of candidates that we're "lowering the bar" for interviews.

I work for a major tech firm with extensive WFH and a fair amount of flexibility. That ain't a great sign.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!0 at December 07, 2021 03:41 PM (DU+/6)

190 Zeta Reticulians for Trump, 2024!

Posted by: The Gray Aliens from Zeta Reticuli at December 07, 2021 03:41 PM (Tt2jK)

191 I really, really want Buttgiggy at the top of the Dem ticket.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:41 PM (ptqGC)

192 I don't believe anyone can really tell how Harris would do as President as far as numbers. It's a different dynamic to be President than being Vice President. Plus there would be more people with an interest in her being successful and liked to a degree.

Plus Jill is probably the source of a lot of her problems.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 07, 2021 03:42 PM (1hoTV)

193 I don't and won't make any serious 2024 predictions, because I think a whole flock of Black Swans will be taking wing before we get there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 03:28 PM (trdmm)

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Coincidentally, the CCP nickname for their tactical EMP nukes are Black Swans.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 07, 2021 03:42 PM (2Xo7F)

194 179 I want Trump to run again. He deserves his victory.

He has by far the most and strongest built-in support, and for anyone concerned about his image among low-fos and other assorted nimrods and miscreants, trust me the media will ruin ANY Republican for them too.

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2021 03:39 PM (CJznt)

I agree. The MFM spent four years shooting their Trump wad, and they don't have much left in the tank. Every new sex charge or whatever is less likely to stick, even among the lo-fos ("Ugh, this again? I just wanna watch my sportsball). A new candidate means they get to start all over again with fresh new lies.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 07, 2021 03:42 PM (lNHqD)

195 NY moved from Likely D to Solid D

Good and hard, as they say.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 07, 2021 03:42 PM (Bmy3R)

196 > Tulsi Gabbard.

The only way she gets in is by pulling a Trump and doing an end-run around the party apparatus.

Which could happen, I suppose.

I would be very afraid of a Gabbard/Yang ticket, because while those two are wrong about a lot of things, they're just normally wrong, not psychotically wrong like the rest of the D party.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2021 03:42 PM (bW8dp)

197 One thing should be noted, as with Beto in Texas, is that the GOP candidate is always caught unawares in the first election, and the Dems come really close to winning in an election they should never have been close on - usually is a deep red state. Then the irregularities start getting uncovered and you begin to see the pattern of local "walk around" funding, funny business in the few election districts run by Dems, etc...and the run is over because it really hard to pull that off twice - Beto has never been close to political viability since.

Same with Abrams - the GOP isn't letting a toilet overflow again and sink their candidates and GA GOP lawyers are going to be the majority of people walking around inside a dem voting district, not dem voters...and the maill in canard is over in GA - she's going to get drilled in 2022.

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2021 03:42 PM (5iUNf)

198 Also why was NY ever anything other than solid D for the governor?

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at December 07, 2021 03:42 PM (mf5HN)

199 I think a second Trump presidency has the potential to be glorious. We might get War Trump.

I'd find a way to vote for him in all the swing states if he ran on the platform of cleaning house.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2021 03:42 PM (7F9te)

200 This girl is enjoying some pizza while she basks in Biden's polling collapse:
https://is.gd/icZArp

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!0 at December 07, 2021 03:42 PM (DU+/6)

201 Buttjuice will be Kamala's veep, they're just letting the world know through Fake Palace Intrigue that he's "next". But many of us here have known he was next for a year or so.

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2021 03:43 PM (CJznt)

202 Psaki's face looks splotchy today.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:43 PM (ptqGC)

203 I really, really want Buttgiggy at the top of the Dem ticket.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
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My guess is he's at the top of Dems lists right now.

I don't think that will play well outside rich white liberals. But I thought Hussein Obama was a bridge too far also.

Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 03:43 PM (PwNLq)

204 We will never *really* overcome the problems we're facing until we convince white females that its *OK* to be white and *OK* to be responsible human beings. Its beyond ridiculous that the poll numbers cited above put the the Trump-vs-Biden numbers at 50-50 between women. 50% of women believe that what we're enduring now is to be preferred to the prosperity we had under Trump?

I've about had it with the "white church lady" crowd who willfully chooses to ignore reality.

Posted by: Crusader at December 07, 2021 03:43 PM (ewSN2)

205 In the new year, the volume of polls grows and the polls begin moving to Likely Voters. When that happens the scale and scope of the trouble will start to become lots more apparent.

Of course, all the noise means nothing. GOPe will still find themselves unable to repeal anything the fascists have put into law. The Patriot Act will still exist, as will ZoobamaCare.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 07, 2021 03:43 PM (raQcc)

206 Trump didn't keep any of his salary either. Sorry, but I worry that DeSantis is another Scott Walker.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 07, 2021 03:43 PM (5HBd1)

207 He didn't "run" the first time. He moved slowly to a microphone, mumbled something written for him while about ten people sat in their own little social distancing circles watching, and then he moved slowly to a car or plane. Possibly the most unenergetic campaign in the history of political campaigns.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2021 03:44 PM (poMoX)

208 179 I want Trump to run again. He deserves his victory.
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This. Then he can unleash the revenge.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 07, 2021 03:44 PM (OTXUv)

209 Democrats will run a younger Marxists, like Beto or Buttaguy but not either of them.

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2021 03:44 PM (2JoB8)

210 1987 was a great year for movies

The Untouchables was the only one on that list I managed to make all the way through. I disliked all the others for various reasons.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 07, 2021 03:44 PM (2JVJo)

211 I love Keri Lake and I think she's going to win.

Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 03:37 PM (PwNLq)

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I am cautiously optimistic, but I don't put past anything from AZ anymore.

Between the McLame/Flake wing of the Republican party, that has shown its willingness to sabotage any pro-Trump candidate, and the complete distrust I have for the Republicans within Maricopa county, I remain weary.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 07, 2021 03:44 PM (TNyrE)

212 He didn't "run" the first time. He moved slowly to a microphone, mumbled something written for him while about ten people sat in their own little social distancing circles watching, and then he moved slowly to a car or plane. Possibly the most unenergetic campaign in the history of political campaigns.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 07, 2021 03:44 PM (poMoX)
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Spot on.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!0 at December 07, 2021 03:44 PM (DU+/6)

213 147 Does Khlamydia smell as bad as Genital Warts?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 07, 2021 03:33 PM (OTXUv)

Ten day old fish on the dock in Denmark.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM
Not even close. Try August in Savannah.

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2021 03:45 PM (0OP+5)

214 179 I want Trump to run again. He deserves his victory.

He has by far the most and strongest built-in support, and for anyone concerned about his image among low-fos and other assorted nimrods and miscreants, trust me the media will ruin ANY Republican for them too.
Posted by: ... at December 07, 2021 03:39 PM (CJznt)
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Hillary thought the same thing. Didn't work out.

Desantis 2024

Posted by: WisRich at December 07, 2021 03:45 PM (G0vdT)

215 Trump takes Tulsi as running mate on "Unity ticket"

Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2021 03:45 PM (us2H3)

216 I think GA going to toss-up is more about Kemp being primaried (incumbent party isn't unified) than it is about Tank.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at December 07, 2021 03:45 PM (O6DoG)

217 True, but I think 1939 stands out anyway

Yeah, its probably the single finest film year ever. There are some other standouts but none like that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2021 03:45 PM (KZzsI)

218 Beatoff O'Cuck will never again hold elective office for anything larger than the congressional district that contains Austin. Not as long as he lives in Texas.

He might be named the Grand Marshal of the Austin Pride Parade or something, I suppose.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2021 03:46 PM (bW8dp)

219 I still think The Ho will make the big chair within 3 years, Sundowner can't be propped up that long.

Posted by: Skip at December 07, 2021 03:46 PM (2JoB8)

220 Great! AOC 2024! Latinx lover her and blacks don't like harris. If republicans take the house in 2022 pelosi and her corrupt crew will be out of the power to control democrats in the house. AOC for house democrat leader until she runs for president.

Posted by: raimondo at December 07, 2021 03:46 PM (DnacD)

221 It was supposed to be impossible to be a shitty Vice President. The job description is basically "be invisible, and show up when needed".

I mean they have apparently found the one job she won't do.

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2021 03:46 PM (CJznt)

222 I think there are a number of folks out there that have put up with being short staffed and overworked. And they are just burned out. I'm pretty much at that point. If I were younger, I could be flipping burgers for the same money and it would be a lot less stressful.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 07, 2021 03:46 PM (5HBd1)

223 > Trump takes Tulsi as running mate on "Unity ticket"

I would like to see that, just to watch the heads explode.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2021 03:47 PM (bW8dp)

224 Does Khlamydia smell as bad as Genital Warts?
Posted by: Puddin Head

Ten day old fish on the dock in Denmark.
Posted by: jakee308

Not even close. Try August in Savannah.
Posted by: Eromero

Broken door to a stopped up shitter on a tuna boat.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2021 03:47 PM (M4qcY)

225 Desantis 2024
Posted by: WisRich at December 07, 2021 03:45 PM (G0vdT)

we want to Des to stay right there atm

he has plaenty of time

Trump vs Buttplug

the unholy reaming

Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2021 03:47 PM (us2H3)

226 I really, really want Buttgiggy at the top of the Dem ticket.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
____

My guess is he's at the top of Dems lists right now.

I don't think that will play well outside rich white liberals. But I thought Hussein Obama was a bridge too far also.
Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 03:43 PM (PwNLq)

Amazoid keeps pushing "Mayor Pete", so no doubt he's at the top of the list. I can't recall any other recent politicians besides Barky getting their own hollyweird propaganda piece.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:47 PM (wAnMi)

227 I'm from Missouri, and that looks like the Mississippi north of St. Louis near Alton, IL.

Anyway, assuming voting at the national level even means anything anymore, I hope to God Trump doesn't run in 2024. I voted for him in 2020, but afyer letting the Steal happen, watching the country burn for a year, and giving us Fauci and Warp Sppe poison, I would never again vote for failure.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at December 07, 2021 03:47 PM (AW8UN)

228 NBC is getting ready for the Big Blue Wave coming (sarc).

They hired Yamiche Alexander away from NPR State Propaganda and are calling her a "Washington Correspondent".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 07, 2021 03:47 PM (raQcc)

229 After the last 5 years, the already silly statements about "they don't have anybody" or "he/she couldn't possibly win" and so on are ...... really ridiculous.

2020 was as close to an economist in the classroom laying out a perfect scenario to illustrate a concept, as you get in real political life. And the ridiculous candidate with no campaign, inability to even appear in public, and absurd unpopular positions won (whether actually won electorally, due to obvious lack of integrity in the process, unknown).

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2021 03:48 PM (OTzUX)

230 > Great! AOC 2024! Latinx lover her

Too bad "Latinx" are only about 3% of Latinos. 97% of them HATE the "Latinx" bullshit.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2021 03:48 PM (bW8dp)

231 Hillary thought the same thing. Didn't work out.

Desantis 2024
Posted by: WisRich at December 07, 2021 03:45 PM (G0vdT)

You're making my argument for me. Hillary ran into an incredible opponent, who happens to be the guy I'm shilling for.

I'm not opposed to DeSantis. He can have it if Trump decides not to run.

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2021 03:48 PM (CJznt)

232 Yamiche Alexander

She's a racist POS

Posted by: It's me donna at December 07, 2021 03:48 PM (KktuI)

233 "I don't and won't make any serious 2024 predictions, because I think a whole flock of Black Swans will be taking wing before we get there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 03:28 PM (trdmm)"

I'm not sure how the powers that be intend to get out of the interest rate/debt servicing trap without killing fields, WW3, or some new outrageous brand of fuckery.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at December 07, 2021 03:48 PM (HIzXx)

234 "I don't think that will play well outside rich white liberals. But I thought Hussein Obama was a bridge too far also.

Posted by: Blago"

They won't be able to hide that he is gay from their black voters like they tried in the primaries. those baby photos will destroy him.

Posted by: Ripley at December 07, 2021 03:48 PM (MxEKc)

235 216 I think GA going to toss-up is more about Kemp being primaried (incumbent party isn't unified) than it is about Tank.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at December 07, 2021 03:45 PM (O6DoG)

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Kemp was great as far as keeping GA open during the Peking Pox and refusing to issue a statewide mask mandate. He blew it when he signed off on the steal. People are mad as hell still. So we've got Vernon Jones and David Purdue running against him.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:49 PM (ptqGC)

236 AOC isn't running for jack, she's a tool and she does what she's told.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 07, 2021 03:49 PM (KZzsI)

237 I can serve out my current term as Governor of Georgia before I'm sworn as President.

Fox has already called the 2024 presidential election for me, and I'm ready to deliver my victory speech.

Posted by: Stacey Abrams, Topless at December 07, 2021 03:49 PM (9vQJW)

238 I see lots of California plates in Arizona and my daughter in Utah told us that lots of people are escaping California to Utah. There needs to be a giant electrified fence around California.

Posted by: Megthered at December 07, 2021 03:49 PM (sfWd9)

239 I don't think that will play well outside rich white liberals. But I thought Hussein Obama was a bridge too far also.
Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 03:43 PM (PwNLq)

There isn't enough Zuck Bucks in the world to get the AA community out for Petey Whitey....he's finished before he even started...

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2021 03:49 PM (5iUNf)

240 Went out for a stroll over lunch today, saw something shiny on the ground, and found a flat washer for a 3/8" bolt. About the same size as a US quarter and as I pocketed it realized that in less than 12 months Puddinghead has screwed things up so badly that if you buy washers individually at a hardware store the washer is now worth more than a US quarter. Used to be "it was the economy stupid" but with the D's able to manufacture votes on demand in the middle of the night who knows about 2024.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 07, 2021 03:49 PM (yK6pq)

241 @217

>>Yeah, its probably the single finest film year ever. There are some other standouts but none like that.

1946 was no slouch either.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 07, 2021 03:49 PM (iS1FW)

242 Sorry, but I worry that DeSantis is another Scott Walker.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward
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Conservative movement is going to have to figure out how to move past an 80-something year old Trump and not be a cult of personality. I can easily support Trump if he's the nominee, but I don't like this idea that it can only be him and everyone else is a sell out.

Trump had all sort of betrayals to conservatives, he just had a sort of teflon when he did it. And if anyone criticized him, it was a NeverTrumper.

Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 03:50 PM (PwNLq)

243 Psaki has Ho-sacea.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 07, 2021 03:50 PM (Bmy3R)

244 Mole Men for Trump '24!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (txdEq)

Yes!

Posted by: Hans Moleman at December 07, 2021 03:50 PM (PiwSw)

245 223 > Trump takes Tulsi as running mate on "Unity ticket"

I would like to see that, just to watch the heads explode.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2021 03:47 PM (bW8dp)
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LOL

Posted by: WisRich at December 07, 2021 03:50 PM (G0vdT)

246 When you think about how insane the planet has gotten in 2 years, I really have to wonder if Trump is going to have any sort of grasp as to how to move forward in 2 years. He seemed right even a year ago, now I'm not so sure.

Maybe he's arriving at that conclusion and feels he can do more damage with his media company. I'm seeing some speculation about Nunes coming on board because they'll be positioning themselves as the next Wikileaks.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:50 PM (wAnMi)

247 1987 was a great year for movies. Part 2...

Posted by: Hands at December 07, 2021 03:34 PM

Good Morning, Vietnam; Dirty Dancing; Adventures in Babysitting (I was 11, big crush in Elisabeth Shue); Can't Buy Me Love; Wallstreet; Innerspace; Roxanne; The Secret of My Success; Some Kind of Wonderful; Batteries Not Included.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2021 03:50 PM (Do5/p)

248 Yes "Republican Politicians" don't exactly have a track record worth crowing about. I think for 50 years or so they're running at 100% in terms of fucking us in the ass. Why people are so sure DeSantis is different, I'm not clear.

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2021 03:50 PM (CJznt)

249 Don't cry for me, retardo

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 07, 2021 03:51 PM (cSs/W)

250 Wonder if any serfs actually voted for Marxism or did they ....just do it?

Some warning signs are if your son returns from school wearing lipstick.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 07, 2021 03:51 PM (YdUrq)

251 I'm not sure how the powers that be intend to get out of the interest rate/debt servicing trap without killing fields, WW3, or some new outrageous brand of fuckery.

Posted by: somedood

First is hyper inflation which was always in the cards to reduce debt, the second is simple surrender as in Afghanistan--China takes Taiwan, Russia takes Ukraine, third is additional disorder in US via unlimited immigration, terrorism from it, and collapse of public order. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: whig at December 07, 2021 03:51 PM (9hXN1)

252 MT is getting loads of folk from COW (CA,OR,WA) and so far they are pretty darn conservative. As our parish priest said the other day, we're getting refugees and missionaries.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 07, 2021 03:51 PM (2NHgQ)

253 40 What percent of the American public wants Joey choo-choo to stroke out and be done with his d@mn failed presidency already?
Posted by: Lizzy at December 07, 2021 03:12 PM (CZb/v)

If Biden leaves office before 12:00 Noon Eastern Standard Time on Jan 20, 2025, Kamalalala becomes President, with either Hillary, Big Mike, or Nanzee named as VP.

Posted by: Fox2! at December 07, 2021 03:51 PM (nhgiS)

254 If the egos didn't clash the way forward may be Trump and DeSantis VP.

This way Trump gets things back to an economic return and getting China off of the worlds back. And Europe off of America's

Then having given DeSantis some room to show would be a much better possibility as President in 2028 which we usually don't get because the VP is a losing candidate from the previous election and the current Pres is not happy with them. EGO as I said.

Then we would have a solid 12 years of someone who loves the country, hates the left and knows how to deal with them. The country would respond and perhaps we could put some of the venomous snakes in the country down and out an unable to make a comeback. After 2036 I won't be around most likely so good luck.

Bob Dole made it further but he had congressional health care and lots of bucks so he could get the best of care.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 07, 2021 03:51 PM (1hoTV)

255 Trump should organize his won Congressional Election Committee. The committee should raise money and coordinate messaging between PDJT and his endorsed candidates. Screw this crap about "no primaries against sitting House Members". Get after the RINO's right now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 07, 2021 03:51 PM (raQcc)

256 Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 07, 2021 03:49 PM (yK6pq)

If it was stainless or galvanized then you're rich!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 07, 2021 03:52 PM (UuD2k)

257 215 Trump takes Tulsi as running mate on "Unity ticket"
Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2021 03:45 PM (us2H3)

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Hmmmm...

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:52 PM (ptqGC)

258 81 Million "votes."
Posted by: Michael Bolton
Yup. That is the thing. Their candidate, apparently, does not have to quote unquote run. They can hold a couple sparsely attended rallys. And then magically get 81 million votes.

Posted by: MikeM at December 07, 2021 03:52 PM (oTuGd)

259 I do forget Palin sometimes. She *was* different.

I don't consider Reagan and Trump politicians. DeSantis is doing good but has a LOT to prove that he's not just another cocksuckling GOP shitfuck.

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2021 03:52 PM (CJznt)

260 Buyers remorse when nobody really bought it in the first place

Posted by: steevy at December 07, 2021 03:52 PM (CYnTg)

261 and not missionaries. Is what I meant to say.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 07, 2021 03:53 PM (2NHgQ)

262 I doubt FJB would run again, but not because running is usually a hard marathon for candidates, because he just sat in his basement last time. Likely because he has outlived his usefulness to the deep state.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 07, 2021 03:53 PM (r5BVk)

263 The problem is that DeSantis has no international experience (that I know of anyway). Trump had done business in those countries at least. The other problem is the possibility of a nasty economic crash. It will finish the career of whoever gets stuck dealing with it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 07, 2021 03:53 PM (5HBd1)

264 199 I think a second Trump presidency has the potential to be glorious. We might get War Trump.

I'd find a way to vote for him in all the swing states if he ran on the platform of cleaning house.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2021 03:42 PM (7F9te)

...a First Lady with class, style, and beauty... And who didn't wear fishnet stockings...

Posted by: Flyover at December 07, 2021 03:53 PM (Rbu5d)

265 Maybe he's arriving at that conclusion and feels he can do more damage with his media company. I'm seeing some speculation about Nunes coming on board because they'll be positioning themselves as the next Wikileaks.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:50 PM

Trump has seen nation secrets that only a US President is allowed to see, correct? What is the punishment if a former President decided to leak those nation secrets? Is it considered treason?

Serious question, as I was actually worried that with Obama President and having access to all our secrets, he would share them with all his radical friends.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2021 03:54 PM (Do5/p)

266 Jenna Bush Hager/Meghan McCain 2024

Solid ticket. It would break the glass ceiling and restore civility to the Republican Party.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2021 03:54 PM (7F9te)

267 If it was stainless or galvanized then you're rich!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 07, 2021 03:52 PM (UuD2k)

Pretty sad to think that the next time I need a flat washer for a bolt it will be cheaper for me to put a quarter in the vise and drill a hole in it than it would be to run out to the hardware store.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 07, 2021 03:54 PM (yK6pq)

268 266 Jenna Bush Hager/Meghan McCain 2024

Solid ticket. It would break the glass ceiling and restore civility to the Republican Party.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2021 03:54 PM

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*flamethows comment*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:55 PM (ptqGC)

269 Evers is Asshoe.

Posted by: davidt at December 07, 2021 03:55 PM (0hbQ6)

270 I see lots of California plates in Arizona and my daughter in Utah told us that lots of people are escaping California to Utah. There needs to be a giant electrified fence around California.
Posted by: Megthered

There are more than a few FB groups of "Moving from California to XXXXX" where XXXXX are Midwest or Southern states too.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2021 03:55 PM (mD/uy)

271 TIPP usually polls adults which makes this even worse for biden. If they polled likely voters he may be less than 20% that want him to run again.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 07, 2021 03:55 PM (bVYXr)

272 > with either Hillary, Big Mike, or Nanzee named as VP.

Commie Lay is pretty stupid, but even she isn't stupid enough to be the only thing standing between Skankles and the Presidency.

Mooch is never going to work another day in her life. Presidentin' is work.

Pisslousy is too old.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 07, 2021 03:55 PM (bW8dp)

273 138 Crenshaw warns We have grifters in our midst.
Wow

Posted by: Braenyard at December 07, 2021 03:32 PM (hzMvv)

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On his radio show, Bongino respectfully and politely took him down today.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 07, 2021 03:55 PM (2Xo7F)

274 More of the left being totally not Satanic

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/489728/

Posted by: steevy at December 07, 2021 03:55 PM (CYnTg)

275 >>>AOC isn't running for jack, she's a tool and she does what she's told.

>But can she mix a boilermaker? Somebody needs to take one for the team and knock-up AOC.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 07, 2021 03:55 PM (BPuaD)

276 Big Mike/Tank Abrams

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:56 PM (ptqGC)

277 What's the rationale for security clearances surviving beyond your employment in a job that requires them? They should be suspended the moment your employment ends, subject to rapid reactivation if your new gig requires one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!0 at December 07, 2021 03:56 PM (DU+/6)

278 The problem is that DeSantis has no international experience (that I know of anyway). Trump had done business in those countries at least. The other problem is the possibility of a nasty economic crash. It will finish the career of whoever gets stuck dealing with it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 07, 2021 03:53 PM

That is probably going to happen before 2024 so it will be on biden, not that he or his handlers cares.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 07, 2021 03:56 PM (bVYXr)

279 The flaw in Jussie's strategy is that black folk, generally, don't care much for cocksuckers

Jussie nneds ace on the jury

Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2021 03:56 PM (us2H3)

280 Yup. That is the thing. Their candidate, apparently, does not have to quote unquote run. They can hold a couple sparsely attended rallys. And then magically get 81 million votes.

Posted by: MikeM at December 07, 2021 03:52 PM

Not to mention all the people who are going to die over the next 3 years from the "vaccines". Those dead people are more guaranteed Democrat votes.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2021 03:57 PM (Do5/p)

281 Moving from Likely D to Solid D is, I can assure you, no problem at all. The Paolo can accomplish this move five or six times in a single evening.

Posted by: The Paolo at December 07, 2021 03:57 PM (sGnvY)

282 Mooch is never going to work another day in her life. Presidentin' is work.

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President ValJar is tanned, rested, and ready for a fourth consecutive term!

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 07, 2021 03:57 PM (2Xo7F)

283 >>>Conservative movement is going to have to figure out how to move past an 80-something year old Trump and not be a cult of personality.
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Not picking on you, Blago, but this is strange. It's a funny sort of "Cult Of Personality" the NeverTrumpers complain about, when his supporters get on his case so often. We criticize him for a) losing to Dominion and/or Meat Puppet, 2) horrible organization and personnel decisions while Prezzy, 3) caving to establishment Republicans all the fricking time, in evergreen false hopes he can work with those scumbags, 4) refusing to let Democrats outspend him, and all sorts of other things. This NeverTrumper "cult" doesn't exist and is merely a propaganda tagline.

I'm in the Melania cult of personality anyway.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 07, 2021 03:57 PM (raQcc)

284 It depends. Are they Leftists leaving CA or conservatives? You might want to start encouraging the conservatives to come your way. And there are more of those in CA than you think.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 07, 2021 03:57 PM (5HBd1)

285 Pretty sad to think that the next time I need a flat washer for a bolt it will be cheaper for me to put a quarter in the vise and drill a hole in it than it would be to run out to the hardware store.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont

Quarter might be too soft.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2021 03:57 PM (M4qcY)

286 276 Big Mike/Tank Abrams
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:56 PM (ptqGC)

who provides the semen ?

Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2021 03:58 PM (us2H3)

287 When Buttplug poles poorly with blacks, the media may start in with coverage about how moderate Klobuchar is.

Posted by: Furious George at December 07, 2021 03:58 PM (9vQJW)

288 Joy Behar/Joy Reid

Campaign Slogan: Happy Happy Joy Joy

Posted by: Hans Moleman at December 07, 2021 03:58 PM (PiwSw)

289 Something to keep in mind also is Trump polls high because he's disappeared. I said from since Trump got the nom, he needed to get off Twitter.

He was just too obsessed with being the center of every news cycle and it wore people out. You put him front and center again and "mean tweets" (or whatever platform he uses) really will be more important than Biden drooling his answers at the next debate.

Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 03:58 PM (PwNLq)

290 Those dead people are more guaranteed Democrat votes.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2021 03:57 PM (Do5/p)

Let's be honest and keep in mind that they likely would've been Democrat voters anyway. At least 40% maybe more. The numbers and the demographics of the purebloods are interesting.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 07, 2021 03:58 PM (1hoTV)

291 Serious question, as I was actually worried that with Obama President and having access to all our secrets, he would share them with all his radical friends.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2021 03:54 PM (Do5/p)

My guess is anything he would put out there would necessarily be submitted/leaked by somebody else. If it was on that level. I think having a platform for whistleblowers who can post anonymously is all it would take. Trump claims protection as a platform, and maybe that's going to force congress's hand for finally investigating the rest of the social media as the publishers they obviously are.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 03:59 PM (wAnMi)

292 282 Mooch is never going to work another day in her life. Presidentin' is work.

Oppie and Beyonce have splained to the Ape that Prezzy is a demontion fron Queen

Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2021 03:59 PM (us2H3)

293
Eighty-one million votes, bitches!

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at December 07, 2021 03:40 PM

The sixty-one million voters who generated those eighty-one million votes are to be commended. Those still alive, of course. Unlike Haley Joel Osment, I don't talk to dead people.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 07, 2021 03:59 PM (dQvv7)

294 The Bee: "Desantis leads Florida military into Germany to liberate unvaccinated concentration camps."

Heard among liberation veterans "Onto Australia!"

Posted by: Boswell at December 07, 2021 03:59 PM (5iUNf)

295 I would put loyalty to Trump for his actions not his personality

Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 07, 2021 04:00 PM (2JoB8)

296 Jenna Bush Hager/Meghan McCain 2024

Solid ticket. It would break the glass ceiling and restore civility to the Republican Party.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

I didn't leave the Republican party. The Republican party left me like a rocket sled on rails.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2021 04:00 PM (M4qcY)

297 Quarter might be too soft.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2021 03:57 PM (M4qcY)

For metal certainly, under a nut against wood maybe not.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at December 07, 2021 04:00 PM (yK6pq)

298 Stock Market crashed in 1929. Deepest part of the Depression was in '32. It may crash while Biden is "in charge" but someone else will have to deal with the mess.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 07, 2021 04:00 PM (5HBd1)

299 Whoever the eventual candidate is, one thing is for sure, with public sentiment the way it is right now, there is no way the GOP can screw this up and lose.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2021 04:00 PM (7F9te)

300 1. Never say anything bad about Trump, nothing good is going to come of it.

Posted by: Y5 at December 07, 2021 04:00 PM (RnqIf)

301 The GOP's hate for Trump is only surpassed by the media's. Overcome that he must. If he's interested in winning.

I for one don't see it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2021 04:00 PM (BFigT)

302 >>276 Big Mike/Tank Abrams
Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:56 PM

I can see the campaign ads already: they bust through a wall like the Kool-Aid guy.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at December 07, 2021 04:01 PM (O6DoG)

303 281 Moving from Likely D to Solid D is, I can assure you, no problem at all. The Paolo can accomplish this move five or six times in a single evening.

Posted by: The Paolo at December 07, 2021 03:57 PM (sGnvY)

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I have heard of your reputation for moving the Housewives of NeverTrump (TM) from Unlikely O to Solid O.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 07, 2021 04:01 PM (2Xo7F)

304 >>>He was just too obsessed with being the center of every news cycle and it wore people out.
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Victim blaming? Propaganda attacks 7x24 and HE was obsessed with being the center of the news cycle?

That's just all retarded, sir.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 07, 2021 04:01 PM (raQcc)

305 Missouri Loves Trump ... sure, but so does "Downstate" Illinois. I'm 8 miles from Missouri, and my county voted 70% Trump. (this is MAGA country Jessie). We are 53% vaxxed (all ages, 66% over 1

.

Most of the country is probably mostly like this ... I mean Salt Lake City is a little more conservative than Miami maybe, but generally BigCity is the heart of Liberalism. Rural America (geographic super majority) is MAGA country (though MAGA is distinct from Trumpian, imo)

Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2021 04:01 PM (Cus5s)

306 Not picking on you, Blago, but this is strange. It's a funny sort of "Cult Of Personality" the NeverTrumpers complain about, when his supporters get on his case so often. We criticize him for a) losing to Dominion and/or Meat Puppet, 2) horrible organization and personnel decisions while Prezzy, 3) caving to establishment Republicans all the fricking time, in evergreen false hopes he can work with those scumbags, 4) refusing to let Democrats outspend him, and all sorts of other things. This NeverTrumper "cult" doesn't exist and is merely a propaganda tagline.

I'm in the Melania cult of personality anyway.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

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It goes both ways, there's people that decided to hate anything conservative because it came out of Trump's mouth.

And the other side is everything that we all agreed was "liberal" is suddenly conservative because Trump supports it. Like sending stimmie checks, criminal justcie reform (ie soft on crime) bailing out every company with PPP, red flag laws, unchecked spending, keeping Fauci on, keeping Comey on, not draining out the swamp etc,

Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 04:01 PM (PwNLq)

307 AOC is titty robot cheap pleasure model 8284 .

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 07, 2021 04:01 PM (YdUrq)

308 When I hear Biden bragging about 81 million votes I want to puke.

If you believe he actually received 81 million votes you're not a serious person.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 07, 2021 04:02 PM (DcKNO)

309
Yeah, my problem with every "Mike Obama will run" scenario is that she is the laziest person on earth, the only person who could make her fruity layabout fake-husband look like a Stakhanovite by comparison.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 07, 2021 04:02 PM (2ABQr)

310 233 "I don't and won't make any serious 2024 predictions, because I think a whole flock of Black Swans will be taking wing before we get there.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 07, 2021 03:28 PM (trdmm)"

I'm not sure how the powers that be intend to get out of the interest rate/debt servicing trap without killing fields, WW3, or some new outrageous brand of fuckery.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at December 07, 2021 03:48 PM
Ordinary morons like us are too 'moral' to wrap our minds around just exactly how evil the 'powers that be' truly are. But we can be certain they will stop at nothing to hold on to power.

Posted by: Eromero at December 07, 2021 04:02 PM (0OP+5)

311 For metal certainly, under a nut against wood maybe not.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont

True. That might allow some bite.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 07, 2021 04:02 PM (M4qcY)

312 A national three point Trump lead is an electoral romp for Trump. Also, it's probably more than three points right now. There's still a stigma associated with Trump. A lot of people won't say what they're really thinking regarding DJT.

Posted by: joefl65 at December 07, 2021 04:02 PM (FcrV3)

313 Trump at his age exhibits more energy than any president in my lifetime, several of them much younger. I think a re-work of Reagan's hilarious (yet fun and gracious, not nasty) comment about not remarking on Mondale's youth and lack of experience applies here, when it comes to others.

The fact that 2020 wasn't well outside the margins of even wholesale fraud is a devastating indictment that won't go away. The official margins that made the difference were tiny, which always is ignored.

For an incumbent who actually had more practical success in his policies than almost any other president in living memory, and who upped his vote totals for re-election more than any incumbent in history, to not completely crush the worst opponent in modern history .... indicates a problem in the electorate that is probably insuperable.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2021 04:02 PM (OTzUX)

314 257 215 Trump takes Tulsi as running mate on "Unity ticket"
Posted by: REDACTED at December 07, 2021 03:45 PM (us2H3)

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Hmmmm...

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:52 PM (ptqGC)
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I don't think that having a rabid anti-gunner in the second slot behind a guy who every establishment goon and power broker on both sides would love to assassinate would be such a good idea. Let Pothole Face be the Dems maverick or whatever, and get Trump a better running mate.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 07, 2021 04:03 PM (lNHqD)

315 287 When Buttplug poles poorly with blacks, the media may start in with coverage about how moderate Klobuchar is.

Posted by: Furious George at December 07, 2021 03:58 PM (9vQJW)

Klobuchar will prove to be only a smidgen more likeable than Kommie-la

Posted by: Gref at December 07, 2021 04:03 PM (AMIL/)

316 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2021 04:00 PM (7F9te)

Wha wha wha??!

Are you NEW?

The GOP has grabbed defeat from victory so many times its a wonder they can walk and chew gum.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 07, 2021 04:03 PM (1hoTV)

317 Paolo/DeSantis 2024

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 07, 2021 04:03 PM (DcKNO)

318 Gabbard is the incel's hottie

Posted by: Y5 at December 07, 2021 04:04 PM (RnqIf)

319 276 Big Mike/Tank Abrams

Posted by: Jane D'oh at December 07, 2021 03:56 PM

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"Help Install The First Ambiguously Gay Duo in the White House -- 2024!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 07, 2021 04:04 PM (2Xo7F)

320 >>>It goes both ways, there's people that decided to hate anything conservative because it came out of Trump's mouth.
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Nah, that is horseshit "both sides" stuff.

Also, I criticize Trump for emailing me 16 times a day. That shit must stop.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 07, 2021 04:04 PM (raQcc)

321 We need to start #FJBV.

Fuck Joe Biden Voters.

Posted by: Golfman at December 07, 2021 04:04 PM (hOMhY)

322 I don't think that having a rabid anti-gunner in the second slot behind a guy who every establishment goon and power broker on both sides would love to assassinate would be such a good idea. Let Pothole Face be the Dems maverick or whatever, and get Trump a better running mate.
Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 07, 2021 04:03 PM (lNHqD)

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She likes the baby killing too.

Posted by: Seems Legit at December 07, 2021 04:04 PM (DcKNO)

323 Trump was obsessed with job growth numbers and cheap energy and shit. Selfish bastard.

Posted by: ... at December 07, 2021 04:04 PM (CJznt)

324 Big Mike may be the best polling 'viable' democrat.

Posted by: davidt at December 07, 2021 04:04 PM (0hbQ6)

325 -
and not missionaries. Is what I meant to say.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine -
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So that is your final position?

Posted by: irright at December 07, 2021 04:04 PM (SchQD)

326 I pole well with blacks. The bigger the pole the better
Mayor Pete

Posted by: steevy at December 07, 2021 04:04 PM (CYnTg)

327 The GOP's hate for Trump is only surpassed by the media's. Overcome that he must. If he's interested in winning.

I for one don't see it.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 07, 2021 04:00 PM (BFigT)

2024 is still a lifetime away. Some GOP scum might just have an epiphany when they're faced with having to go private sector and actually having to work for a living, or simply agreeing with the Golden Scalp Weasel. And the media seems to be well on track to imploding on their own. The only thing Biden seems to be able to do is change minds.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 04:05 PM (wAnMi)

328 A national three point Trump lead is an electoral romp for Trump. Also, it's probably more than three points right now. There's still a stigma associated with Trump. A lot of people won't say what they're really thinking regarding DJT.
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His face on Rushmore?

Posted by: Too Soon? at December 07, 2021 04:05 PM (b153x)

329 Trump's "That's when I realized, Miley's a fuc*&#@ idiot" comment the other day made me miss him extra.

Posted by: LASue at December 07, 2021 04:06 PM (Ed8Zd)

330 10 So biden have his zoom chat with Pootie today ? How much is that gonna cost us I wonder
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Senile Joe accidentally had his microphone turned off for most of the meeting, so Putin will just assume he agreed to everything.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2021 04:07 PM (k4dH2)

331 Miley Cyrus>>>>>>>> General Milley

Posted by: steevy at December 07, 2021 04:07 PM (CYnTg)

332 Milano/Pepperidge 2024

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at December 07, 2021 04:08 PM (w9Wax)

333 NOOD

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2021 04:08 PM (Do5/p)

334 >There are more than a few FB groups of "Moving from California to XXXXX" where XXXXX are Midwest or Southern states too.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2021 03:55 PM (mD/uy)

As an Oregonian...good luck y'all, you're going to need it.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 07, 2021 04:08 PM (cSs/W)

335 Whoever the eventual candidate is, one thing is for sure, with public sentiment the way it is right now, there is no way the GOP can screw this up and lose.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at December 07, 2021 04:00 PM (7F9te)

Hold our beer...

Posted by: GOPe at December 07, 2021 04:09 PM (mE7cY)

336 I'm not sure how the powers that be intend to get out of the interest rate/debt servicing trap without killing fields, WW3, or some new outrageous brand of fuckery.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa"

As Stein laws say "What cannot go on forever, will stop" I have hearing and believing this for 40 years about federal spending expecting it to stop, and yet still it goes on faster that ever. How this is possible I don't know.

Posted by: Ripley at December 07, 2021 04:09 PM (MxEKc)

337 If the GOPe takes both houses in '22, they will feel powerful enough to resist Trump, and procably DeSantis, in '24.

Posted by: davidt at December 07, 2021 04:09 PM (0hbQ6)

338 Miley Cyrus>>>>>>>> General Milley
Posted by: steevy at December 07, 2021 04:07 PM (CYnTg)

General Milley should have just stuck with making Lucky Charms and Honey Nut Cheerios.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 07, 2021 04:09 PM (wAnMi)

339 Let Pothole Face be the Dems maverick or whatever, and get Trump a better running mate.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 07, 2021 04:03 PM (lNHqD)

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As much as we hate the Nepot Dynasties, he could do worse than Don Jr. who's a hell of a fighter, more articulate than his father, and would cause Lefty heads to explode doubly.

His autobiography is fantastic and persuaded me of his bona fides BTW.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at December 07, 2021 04:10 PM (2Xo7F)

340 ProPublica is publishing rich peoples taxes again, complaining they don't pay any. Specifically, they are focused on real estate people (like Trump) and oil people, all of whom get to deduct depreciation and depletion. It's terrible the way legal deductions work, I guess.

Don't like it? Tighten up AMT calculations. Eliminate deductions on a progressive basis. Listen, then, to the screaming from wealthy coastal Democrats. It'll be music to my ears.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 07, 2021 04:10 PM (raQcc)

341 Nood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 07, 2021 04:10 PM (khAeP)

342 I don't believe Trump would "just barely" beat Biden if the election were held today. I simply do not believe it would be anything other than a blowout, fraud notwithstanding.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 07, 2021 04:10 PM (sVtYq)

343 Trump had many failures and weaknesses, some of which were jarring when set against his unflinching execution of other important things against insane/lawless/fanatical opposition.

But net/net, he was so far above any recent president in key respects that it's really an apples/oranges comparison. (yes, some of this is a low bar, but not all of it)

And by definition anyone dim/uninformed/unserious enough to think of "mean tweets" as even an issue at all, is not an intelligent voter worth trying to reach. Tragically this describes an enormous portion of the electorate, speaking not of HDV (high-disinformation voters) like NPR listeners and other clueless "educated" types, but more the airhead suburbanite GOP types.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 07, 2021 04:10 PM (OTzUX)

344 Senile Joe's ~~accidentally~~staff had his microphone purposely turned off for most of the meeting, so Putin ~~will just assume he agreed to everything~~ wouldn't hear him sharting his pants.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 07, 2021 04:07 PM (k4dH2)

Posted by: Golfman at December 07, 2021 04:11 PM (hOMhY)

345 Trump had all sort of betrayals to conservatives, he just had a sort of teflon when he did it. And if anyone criticized him, it was ~~a NeverTrumper~~ someone that thought it wasn't a binary choice between him and Hillz.

Blago, I understand not liking the man, and I understand not wanting to vote for the lesser of two evils, but to be brutally honest, unless you are in at the big table with your tab paid in advance, voting anymore is self defense.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2021 04:13 PM (ZMraq)

346 I miss PDT as much as you all. But should he run in 2024, what assurances are there that he'll make better hiring decisions?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 07, 2021 04:13 PM (N39Ws)

347 "The fact that 2020 wasn't well outside the margins of even wholesale fraud is a devastating indictment that won't go away. The official margins that made the difference were tiny, which always is ignored."

Well, good point, but what is the margin of wholesale fraud? 5% is normal fraud, 15% was wholesale fraud?

Yes we have an ignorant misguided electorate, but Trump increased his votes by a lot in 2020, not common. Likely he had a huge win ... the indictment is against the DeepState regime, as much as against the ignorant voters that did not vote 85% Trump, but only 55%.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 07, 2021 04:15 PM (Cus5s)

348 For me, much of Trump's likability is that all the wrong people hated him.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 07, 2021 04:16 PM (mD/uy)

349 Serious question, as I was actually worried that with Obama President and having access to all our secrets, he would share them with all his radical friends.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 07, 2021 03:54 PM (Do5/p)

Of course, because Bill and Hillary are real closed mouthed and put the US first while they bump elbows with the international sorts while raising massive amounts of money from them.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2021 04:18 PM (ZMraq)

350 you all seem to not understand that between Philadelphia, Pittsburgh and shitholes like Coatesville, Chester, and Norristown, there is literally no cap on the amount of fake votes the state of Pennsylvania can produce.

UNLESS and UNTIL we do as VA just did and have a team of lawyers at every. single. precinct. this will not end. and the whole country will suffer for our corruption.

Posted by: Black Orchid at December 07, 2021 04:19 PM (j9HX3)

351 He was just too obsessed with being the center of every news cycle and it wore people out. You put him front and center again and "mean tweets" (or whatever platform he uses) really will be more important than Biden drooling his answers at the next debate.
Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 03:58 PM (PwNLq)

Yeah, dammit, those mean tweets. I can see why you would vote against him for those. Unconscionable and as bad as saying those four letter words on network TV.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2021 04:22 PM (ZMraq)

352 I'm warming up to the idea of a homosexual mayor from Indiana. How could it get any worse?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 07, 2021 04:23 PM (BPuaD)

353 You may have my car keys when you pry them from my cold, dead fingers.

Posted by: creeper at December 07, 2021 04:23 PM (cTCuP)

354 242

Trump had all sort of betrayals to conservatives, he just had a sort of teflon when he did it. And if anyone criticized him, it was a NeverTrumper.
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Verily. I wouldn't vote for Quitter McWarspeed. I did in 2020. I believe the election was stolen. I also believe he should have declared Martial Law and called upon the Militia of We the People to secure voting locations.

But he was never going to be a Constitutional Vanguard.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at December 07, 2021 04:24 PM (AW8UN)

355 1987 was a great year.
Posted by: Doof at December 07, 2021

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In contrast, for me, '87 was the year I got the flu, got fired for my 8-year job, relaxed on unemployment for part of the summer; then delivered envelopes all over the metro area from my car; then the job ended and the office closed in December. Not to mention I was living alone for the first time in my life, recently divorced and with my mother having passed on late in '86.

Nah, I don't think I'd want to relive '87.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 07, 2021 04:24 PM (txdEq)

356 Stock Market crashed in 1929. Deepest part of the Depression was in '32. It may crash while Biden is "in charge" but someone else will have to deal with the mess.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 07, 2021 04:00 PM (5HBd1)

The depth was due to Hoover, FDR and the FED messing with the economy to make it fair. FDR was the worst because every time something firmed up he kicked the legs out from under it with new rules and screwing up the currency.
Recessions are caused by the government playing with the economy, depressions are made by the government trying to fix it.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2021 04:27 PM (ZMraq)

357 And the other side is everything that we all agreed was "liberal" is suddenly conservative because Trump supports it. Like sending stimmie checks, criminal justcie reform (ie soft on crime) bailing out every company with PPP, red flag laws, unchecked spending, keeping Fauci on, keeping Comey on, not draining out the swamp etc,
Posted by: Blago at December 07, 2021 04:01 PM (PwNLq)

Thank you for telling me what I believe. I appreciate that. Makes me put my actions for the last 6 years in perspective.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 07, 2021 04:30 PM (ZMraq)

358 193/ShainS: "Coincidentally, the CCP nickname for their tactical EMP nukes are Black Swans."

And with a huge semiconductor shortage, can you think of a worse time for a couple of those to be set off? Not that there's ever a good time, mind you...

Posted by: Grumpy and Recalcitrant at December 07, 2021 04:32 PM (nRMeC)

359 We need to start #FJBV.

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I'm still trying to get F. LeBron James rolling.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 07, 2021 04:34 PM (FVME7)

360 From TFN: "... and the Waukesha parade tragedy". Tragedy? Are you f-ing kidding me??? It was a *hate crime* attack.

Humanity > lawyers > teachers > journalists > politicians.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at December 07, 2021 04:59 PM (VzHDA)

361 I heard Bob Dole is gonna be voting Democrat from now on.

Posted by: Troy at December 07, 2021 05:55 PM (xEjFe)

362 I wont vote for Trump again because, IMHO, he has let the January 6 political prisoners hung out to dry They risked it all on his behalf and I was underwhelmed with the fight Trump put up to save his presidency and I havent seen him do f'ing much to secure their freedom.
Like someone said upthread, his hiring decisions sucked. John Bolton...really?

Posted by: Troy at December 07, 2021 06:17 PM (xEjFe)

363 And he has,nt n been in a whole year and he is falling in flames like the Hindenburg

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at December 07, 2021 06:36 PM (wGqjj)

364 Just imagine how that "LGB / FJB" reduced the drag coefficient of that truck! Something at your back that blows like that...

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 07, 2021 06:57 PM (9EsIa)

365 I-30 WB, approaching Exit 62.

Posted by: Eric in Atlanta at December 07, 2021 08:14 PM (xfP4L)

366

LOL

Posted by: four seasons at December 09, 2021 06:33 PM (PisyI)

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