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Looming Losses for House Democrats [Dave in Fla]
The 2022 election season is not going well for Democrats. Historical trends already point to significant losses in the House, where the Democrats only hold a 5 seat edge (as of last week). On historical trends alone, the Democrats would lose their majority. However, current polling is showing that if the election were today, the Democrats would face losses worse than the 1994 and 2010 losses.
Congressional generic ballot polling is a recent trend, only being conducted as a key part of election polling since 2012. Prior to that only a few polling firms, such as Washington Post/ABC and Gallup, polled the question. Prior to 1980, it wasn't polled at all. The table below shows both the historical trends in the first year of a presidency, and the generic ballot results prior to the elections. With the exception of Bush in 2002, a president in his first midterm always loses seats in the House. Of the seven examples since 1970, the minimum loss has been 8 seats. Even without the current political climate, the Democrat hold on the House is almost certain to be lost.
The other thing to note about these polls is that they skew Democrat. It is very rare for them to show a Republican preference. The one time that they did, we had the 2010 blowout of 63 seats. I took a look at the historic performance of the ABC poll.
This poll does show a correlation to the results of the congressional elections. High numbers for the Democrats have predicted Democrats wins, low numbers for the Democrats have predicted Republican wins. Even in 2010 the ABC poll was showing a D+5 predicted result.
What is unprecedented is this poll is currently showing a R+10 result. The last time Republicans led on this question was September 2010, where they held a 1 point lead. And this poll could very well still be underreporting the Republican advantage. Rich Baris started polling congressional preference in September, finding a 1 point Republican advantage, where the ABC poll showed a 14 point Democrat advantage during the same time period.
It isn't just the ABC poll showing this result. Recent polls from Quinnipiac, Rasmussen, Suffolk, and Emerson are showing the same unprecedented Republican congressional ballot leads. Take a look at the RCP average over the last few months.
This graph shows three trend periods since the summer. From June until August, the Republicans were slowly gaining ground on the Democrats. Then with the passage of the Infrastructure bill in the Senate in September, congressional preference dropped like a rock for both parties. In October, the Republicans began to gain ground again, and then with the vaccine mandates hitting the entire national work force in November, Republicans took an unheard of lead.
If we had a normal electoral environment, we would be talking about gains of 80+ seats, and certainly equal to the 60+ seats gained in 2010. But these are not normal times, since hyper partisanship and election fraud are the current election constants. Election reforms in states like Florida, Georgia, and Texas will guarantee significant Republican wins in those states. Walker is very likely to beat Ossoff in Georgia, DeSantis will cruise to an easy win, Charlie Crist's seat will switch back to Republican, and Guillen in Texas saw the writing on the wall in the Hispanic community and switched parties.
In the past, we could also expect major swings in other states like California. However, with the institution of legalized ballot harvesting and universal mail-in ballots, the opportunity for fraud in that state (and others like Colorado) are so significant that candidates need to overcome much higher margins of fraud than before. Even so, districts like CA-16 are very competitive this year, where Biden won the district by over 10 points.
There is also a trend where incumbent Republicans are facing a tough primary campaign. This is where Trump's influence is being felt. The Trump endorsement is the Republican voters' top issue for supporting a candidate. Youngkin could not have won Virginia without it. In Georgia, polling showed that either Kemp or Jones would win with Trump's endorsement. Now that he has endorsed David Perdue, Perdue is leading. There are also candidates who were not interested in politics at all, until the election was stolen in 2020. Joe Kent in WA-3 is running against Jaime Beutler, who voted to impeach Trump. Vance in Ohio wouldn't be in the race at all. And Murkowski in Alaska is in serious trouble, even with the NSCC spending millions to help reelect her.
While the primary beneficiary of current voter anger is going to be the GOPe, who have done nothing except sell out their base for years, there will be winners who have deep populist convictions and will buck the status quo. There will be more Marjorie Green's and Lauren Boebert's next year.
Back in March a question was asked regarding the Democrat plans to win the midterms. The Democrats had planned to run on a booming economy and world stability.
Let that sink in.
After stealing the election, they really thought that the policies they were going enact would result in economic improvement, and that the world would settle down and love us. And the voters would then forget about 2020 and just return to pre-2016 voting patterns. To be fair, the voters were willing to do so, all the Biden Administration had to do was continue the Trump policies. Instead, they botched Afghanistan, we have unprecedented inflation, never ending COVID emergencies, massive supply chain disruption, and vaccine mandates threatening the jobs of millions right before Christmas.
Even the Never Trump neocons thought Democrat policies would lead to prosperity and peace.
We are ruled by idiots.
They have sown the wind and will reap the whirlwind. It's just a crying shame that the guy who will benefit the most is Kevin McCarthy.Comments
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First?
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:17 PM (5p7BC)
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Woah. Replacement post! Off to read it...
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 23, 2021 12:17 PM (DTX3h)
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Wow.
Posted by: Infidel at werk at November 23, 2021 12:17 PM (/oG9s)
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Ha, on my own post no less
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:18 PM (5p7BC)
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No one is stopping vote fraud yet
Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 23, 2021 12:19 PM (RxZ8d)
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I'd be much more excited about this if voting actually mattered any more. Murphy also lost in NJ. Then -- lo and behold -- tens of thousands of votes were "found" literally in the middle of the night. No reason the same thing won't happen in 2022.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 23, 2021 12:19 PM (iFTx/)
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4 Ha, on my own post no less
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:18 PM (5p7BC)
Did you submit a Conflict of Interest form to AoSHQ Human Resources?
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:18 PM (5p7BC)
Did you submit a Conflict of Interest form to AoSHQ Human Resources?
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 23, 2021 12:19 PM (w9Wax)
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Sorry, I don't trust polls any more. Why, I'd trust licking a stripper pole at the end of amateur night first.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 23, 2021 12:20 PM (N39Ws)
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Even without the current political climate, the Democrat hold on the House is almost certain to be lost.
Why do you think Pelosi's going to retire?
Why do you think Pelosi's going to retire?
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:20 PM (ZsR3z)
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A treasured memory was listening to KPFA, the ultra-loony Leftist radio station in Berkeley, on election night, 1994.
The two commentators sounded as if they were going to commit suicide on-air.
The two commentators sounded as if they were going to commit suicide on-air.
Posted by: Down The Memory Hole! at November 23, 2021 12:21 PM (I2/tG)
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Not voting ourselves out of this mess
Posted by: Grease monkey at November 23, 2021 12:21 PM (oSX/P)
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I'm wondering if these congressional polls have anything to do with the GOP House demanding an end to jab mandate
Posted by: kallisto at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (DJFLF)
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Just because voting is fucked in Philadelphia doesn't mean it's fucked everywhere.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (3EWns)
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After stealing the election, they really thought that the policies they were going enact would result in economic improvement
____________
Mmmmmm, I'm dubious about that.
After stealing the election, they really thought that the policies they were going enact would result in economic improvement
____________
Mmmmmm, I'm dubious about that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (yTMfZ)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (OalnH)
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While the primary beneficiary of current voter anger is going to be the GOPe, who have done nothing except sell out their base for years, there will be winners who have deep populist convictions and will buck the status quo. There will be more Marjorie Green's and Lauren Boebert's next year.
Jim Jordan (R-Google) is speaking out publicly, and telling his fellow GOPers that nothing else matters when they retake the House but that they do what they said they'd do. I hope they're listening.
Jim Jordan (R-Google) is speaking out publicly, and telling his fellow GOPers that nothing else matters when they retake the House but that they do what they said they'd do. I hope they're listening.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (ZsR3z)
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First on your own thread....dude....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (V6f9+)
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Why, I'd trust licking a stripper pole at the end of amateur night first.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Wait, that was wrong? If I had known that was wrong. . . .
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
Wait, that was wrong? If I had known that was wrong. . . .
Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (jZSOU)
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I trust Joe Biden around a toddler more than I do polls.
I trust Disney to be family friendly more than I do polls.
I trust the USB cable to plug in right the first try more than I do polls.
I trust Disney to be family friendly more than I do polls.
I trust the USB cable to plug in right the first try more than I do polls.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (KZzsI)
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"Back in March a question was asked regarding the Democrat plans to win the midterms. The Democrats had planned to run on a booming economy and world stability.
Let that sink in.
After stealing the election, they really thought that the policies they were going enact would result in economic improvement, and that the world would settle down and love us. "
Posted by: Open Blogger at 12:15 PM
Democrats have long suffered from delusions of competence.
Let that sink in.
After stealing the election, they really thought that the policies they were going enact would result in economic improvement, and that the world would settle down and love us. "
Posted by: Open Blogger at 12:15 PM
Democrats have long suffered from delusions of competence.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:23 PM (z5Vrg)
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5 No one is stopping vote fraud yet
Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 23, 2021 12:19 PM (RxZ8d)
As I understand it, a judge stopped the demorat effort to "fortify" the VA governor election.
Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 23, 2021 12:19 PM (RxZ8d)
As I understand it, a judge stopped the demorat effort to "fortify" the VA governor election.
Posted by: kallisto at November 23, 2021 12:23 PM (DJFLF)
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Remember, all the House and Senate elections will be stolen.
Voting doesn't matter.
Don't even bother.
Voting doesn't matter.
Don't even bother.
Posted by: The Lincoln Project And The DNC! at November 23, 2021 12:23 PM (I2/tG)
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I don't know if Joe Kent can win here or not. We've had enough people moving from Portland to this area that the county goes Dem. It's the rural counties where Jamie had support.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 23, 2021 12:23 PM (5HBd1)
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And haven't believed a poll since Nov 2016, their all put out by the Propaganda Ministry
Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 23, 2021 12:23 PM (RxZ8d)
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After stealing the election, they really thought that the policies they were going enact would result in economic improvement, and that the world would settle down and love us. And the voters would then forget about 2020 and just return to pre-2016 voting patterns. To be fair, the voters were willing to do so, all the Biden Administration had to do was continue the Trump policies. Instead, they botched Afghanistan, we have unprecedented inflation, never ending COVID emergencies, massive supply chain disruption, and vaccine mandates threatening the jobs of millions right before Christmas.
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Their policies didn't work not because they're wrong but because of wreckers and hoarders.
Give them total power and it'll work for sure. Is it a problem that their policies don't work when they only have partial power? Not at all. It just further proves the obviousness of their righteousness.
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Their policies didn't work not because they're wrong but because of wreckers and hoarders.
Give them total power and it'll work for sure. Is it a problem that their policies don't work when they only have partial power? Not at all. It just further proves the obviousness of their righteousness.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:24 PM (3EWns)
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I trust a teenage boy's promise in prom night more than I do a poll.
I trust a chocolate teapot to hold hot water more than I do a poll.
I trust a McDonald's ice cream machine to be functioning more than I do a poll.
I trust a chocolate teapot to hold hot water more than I do a poll.
I trust a McDonald's ice cream machine to be functioning more than I do a poll.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:24 PM (KZzsI)
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"I'm wondering if these congressional polls have anything to do with the GOP House demanding an end to jab mandate"
Are you implying the GOP is converting their popularity into a policy attack? Or that they're attempting to help Biden by playing foil to Dem intentions of lockdowns forever?
Are you implying the GOP is converting their popularity into a policy attack? Or that they're attempting to help Biden by playing foil to Dem intentions of lockdowns forever?
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (B0mGw)
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You know what will solve this problem? Mail In Ballots!
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (v0R5T)
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28 Republican Reps retired in 2018, about half the swing.
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (yrol0)
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Democrats have long suffered from delusions of competence adequacy.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:23 PM
FIFY.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:23 PM
FIFY.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (m+jkK)
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I trust Jerry Nadler's sphincter more than I do a poll.
I trust Nancy Pelosi's promises more than I do a poll.
I trust the voting machine company who I have been ordered to not mention any more more than I do a poll.
I trust Nancy Pelosi's promises more than I do a poll.
I trust the voting machine company who I have been ordered to not mention any more more than I do a poll.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (KZzsI)
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Jim Jordan (R-Google) is speaking out publicly, and telling his fellow GOPers that nothing else matters when they retake the House but that they do what they said they'd do. I hope they're listening.
Here's the link. He's flogging a book.
https://tinyurl.com/2ncn5txw
Here's the link. He's flogging a book.
https://tinyurl.com/2ncn5txw
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (ZsR3z)
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It's time to let the "other guys" screw us for a while.
Posted by: BignJames at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Captain Clarence Oveur at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (8D42x)
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And when Gov DeSantis got in office he and his admin reformed the practices in Miami - Dade, notorious for its fraud and that craxy election thing, can't recall the name.
Posted by: kallisto at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (DJFLF)
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"The Democrats had planned to run on a booming economy and world stability."
*points and laughs at Democrats*
Didn't I hear somewhere that MTG is starting a PAC to primary RINOs? I can't find the name of it and I want to volunteer or something.
*points and laughs at Democrats*
Didn't I hear somewhere that MTG is starting a PAC to primary RINOs? I can't find the name of it and I want to volunteer or something.
Posted by: G. Gnome will not comply at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (OQcPl)
37
Kallisto yeah some places are, it's us I worry about
Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (RxZ8d)
38
Just because voting is fucked in Philadelphia doesn't mean it's fucked everywhere.
Yeah, stealing the Presidency through voter fraud in seven cities in swing states doesn't mean that all 435 House elections and about 33 Senate elections can be stolen easily.
Yeah, stealing the Presidency through voter fraud in seven cities in swing states doesn't mean that all 435 House elections and about 33 Senate elections can be stolen easily.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (I2/tG)
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What this really means is that the race to destroy the country will quicken.
Posted by: Ordinary American at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (H8QX8)
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In 2023, assuming these predictions are borne out by events, Biden's agenda is dead in the water. But we really are in a more dangerous area. His controllers and media cheerleaders start advocating rule by decree. Unrest in cities grows.
In 2023, assuming these predictions are borne out by events, Biden's agenda is dead in the water. But we really are in a more dangerous area. His controllers and media cheerleaders start advocating rule by decree. Unrest in cities grows.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (yTMfZ)
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Paul Ryan for Speaker!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (Pw26M)
42
In the past, we could also expect major swings in other states like California. However, with the institution of legalized ballot harvesting and universal mail-in ballots...
The best part is maybe 10-15% of people know anything at all about ballot harvesting. I can't tell you how many people I've mentioned that to, and get blank stares. Then, they don't believe it. It boggles the mind that CA can just pass legislation on whatever they feel like and don't even get a blink from the public at large.
The best part is maybe 10-15% of people know anything at all about ballot harvesting. I can't tell you how many people I've mentioned that to, and get blank stares. Then, they don't believe it. It boggles the mind that CA can just pass legislation on whatever they feel like and don't even get a blink from the public at large.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (wAnMi)
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I trust Joe Biden around a toddler more than I do polls.
I trust Disney to be family friendly more than I do polls.
I trust the USB cable to plug in right the first try more than I do polls.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (KZzsI)
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I trust Kamalama not to drag her teeth more than I do polls.
I trust Disney to be family friendly more than I do polls.
I trust the USB cable to plug in right the first try more than I do polls.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (KZzsI)
........
I trust Kamalama not to drag her teeth more than I do polls.
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (v0R5T)
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Jim Jordan (R-Google) is speaking out publicly, and telling his fellow GOPers that nothing else matters when they retake the House but that they do what they said they'd do. I hope they're listening.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (ZsR3z)
As Jordan is close friends with McCarthy, one could read this as just words signifying nothing. On the other hand, perhaps - maybe, possibly - as a close friend of McCarthy's, some semblance of common sense could get through to leadership.
Since there's no primary challenger to McCarthy yet, and it's looking like he's on a glide path to the Speakership, I guess we have no other choice but to hope.
I wonder, if the rumors of Pelosi's new pad are true, whether McCarthy, Scalise or Jordan are going to say anything about it.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (ZsR3z)
As Jordan is close friends with McCarthy, one could read this as just words signifying nothing. On the other hand, perhaps - maybe, possibly - as a close friend of McCarthy's, some semblance of common sense could get through to leadership.
Since there's no primary challenger to McCarthy yet, and it's looking like he's on a glide path to the Speakership, I guess we have no other choice but to hope.
I wonder, if the rumors of Pelosi's new pad are true, whether McCarthy, Scalise or Jordan are going to say anything about it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (mdjgu)
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"Just because voting is fucked in Philadelphia doesn't mean it's fucked everywhere."
Yes it does. Voting is done. Nothing matters. It's all pointless. Give up and never vote again, Republicans. Despair shall be had by all. It's all hopeless. The Statue of Liberty is kaput! DOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!
Yes it does. Voting is done. Nothing matters. It's all pointless. Give up and never vote again, Republicans. Despair shall be had by all. It's all hopeless. The Statue of Liberty is kaput! DOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:27 PM (B0mGw)
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I trust a GOPe campaign promise more than I do a poll.
I trust Megan McCain around a cream puff more than I do a poll.
I trust a casino's odds more than I do a poll.
I trust Megan McCain around a cream puff more than I do a poll.
I trust a casino's odds more than I do a poll.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:27 PM (KZzsI)
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"telling his fellow GOPers that nothing else matters when they retake the House but that they do what they said they'd do."
And impeach Garland.
And impeach Garland.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:27 PM (B0mGw)
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This is very welcome news in a year in which so much has gone wrong.
I have to constantly remind myself that we got here gradually, and that the correctives will take some time.
You don't replace all the RINOs in one fell swoop, but you eat away at the problem, and, over time, you find that their ascendancy is over.
The other cheerful thought is that the Dems have become so obviously toxic and incompetent that, despite the best efforts of the media, regular people are finally noticing.
I have to constantly remind myself that we got here gradually, and that the correctives will take some time.
You don't replace all the RINOs in one fell swoop, but you eat away at the problem, and, over time, you find that their ascendancy is over.
The other cheerful thought is that the Dems have become so obviously toxic and incompetent that, despite the best efforts of the media, regular people are finally noticing.
Posted by: Splunge at November 23, 2021 12:27 PM (PQ4Fz)
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Red team vs. blue team was always going to come back post 2020.
Always was.
The two parties have dominated American politics for 150 years through massive changes in society and policy. They simply absorb changes and move on because it's easier to co-opt an existing party than to create one anew and have it be a success in our first past the post system.
It'll break at some point because nothing lasts forever, but the ineptitude of Democrats just simply made it too easy for people to fall back into the pattern, helped none at all by Trump refusing to break from the GOP.
Now, with that in mind as how things are going to play out, what are best next steps?
Always was.
The two parties have dominated American politics for 150 years through massive changes in society and policy. They simply absorb changes and move on because it's easier to co-opt an existing party than to create one anew and have it be a success in our first past the post system.
It'll break at some point because nothing lasts forever, but the ineptitude of Democrats just simply made it too easy for people to fall back into the pattern, helped none at all by Trump refusing to break from the GOP.
Now, with that in mind as how things are going to play out, what are best next steps?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (3EWns)
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Local House news: Louie Gohmert announced he's going to enter the GOP primary for Texas Attorney General, against Paxton. Paxton has been reliably conservative, but he's also got a lot of strange baggage from the past, and I can see how this would be a lot more rewarding job for Louie than being Congressman would. (If he loses this primary, he'll probably stay in Congress)
Strong conservative district, it should stay Republican no matter who runs.
Strong conservative district, it should stay Republican no matter who runs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (trdmm)
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You know what will solve this problem? Mail In Ballots!
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (v0R5T)
.........
Also High Speed Rail.
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (v0R5T)
.........
Also High Speed Rail.
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (v0R5T)
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Yeah, stealing the Presidency through voter fraud in seven cities in swing states doesn't mean that all 435 House elections and about 33 Senate elections can be stolen easily.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (I2/tG)
The House of Representatives is much harder to steal on a large scale because they're so local, running up the total in LA won't help that much. The Senate is somewhat easier to achieve majority control with a few cities.
Yeah, stealing the Presidency through voter fraud in seven cities in swing states doesn't mean that all 435 House elections and about 33 Senate elections can be stolen easily.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (I2/tG)
The House of Representatives is much harder to steal on a large scale because they're so local, running up the total in LA won't help that much. The Senate is somewhat easier to achieve majority control with a few cities.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (z5Vrg)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (yQpMk)
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Are you implying the GOP is converting their popularity into a policy attack?
voters who are sick of mandates and lockdowns prefer the GOP so yeah they're catering to the growing segment of freedom-lovers
voters who are sick of mandates and lockdowns prefer the GOP so yeah they're catering to the growing segment of freedom-lovers
Posted by: kallisto at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (DJFLF)
55
they'll just steal the elections, duh
Posted by: robert kendall at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (+UGno)
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32 Here's the link. He's flogging a book.
https://tinyurl.com/2ncn5txw
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (ZsR3z)
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Books are better read that flogged. Flogging is just a waste of paper.
https://tinyurl.com/2ncn5txw
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (ZsR3z)
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Books are better read that flogged. Flogging is just a waste of paper.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (3EWns)
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I trust a casino's odds more than I do a poll.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:27 PM (KZzsI)
There's nothing with Casino odds. The odds say you will lose and the Casino wins. That's pretty much what happens.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:27 PM (KZzsI)
There's nothing with Casino odds. The odds say you will lose and the Casino wins. That's pretty much what happens.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (Y5qcH)
58
As Jordan is close friends with McCarthy, one could read this as just words signifying nothing. On the other hand, perhaps - maybe, possibly - as a close friend of McCarthy's, some semblance of common sense could get through to leadership.
A high bar indeed!
A high bar indeed!
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (ZsR3z)
59
After the 2020 election, they thought they would get that election bill rammed through and cinch every election in the future.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 12:29 PM (Pw26M)
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9:00 PM · Aug 18, 2017
NBCNews
Why statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson aren't "next," as President Trump suggested
Well that aged well!
NBCNews
Why statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson aren't "next," as President Trump suggested
Well that aged well!
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 23, 2021 12:29 PM (yrol0)
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Thank you Dave in Fla
Posted by: MikeM at November 23, 2021 12:29 PM (jI1b1)
62
All else being equal, Dems NOT having total control is better than Dems having total control. But anyone excited thinking Speaker McCarthy will do anything significant is in la-la land.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:29 PM (OalnH)
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45 "Just because voting is fucked in Philadelphia doesn't mean it's fucked everywhere."
Yes it does. Voting is done. Nothing matters. It's all pointless. Give up and never vote again, Republicans. Despair shall be had by all. It's all hopeless. The Statue of Liberty is kaput! DOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:27 PM (B0mGw)
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Lin Wood, is that you?
Yes it does. Voting is done. Nothing matters. It's all pointless. Give up and never vote again, Republicans. Despair shall be had by all. It's all hopeless. The Statue of Liberty is kaput! DOOOOOOOMMMM!!!!
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:27 PM (B0mGw)
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Lin Wood, is that you?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:29 PM (3EWns)
64
Comrades, Dave in Fla is big capitalist antagonizer - very subversive to Mother Russia and our Amerikanskiy allies.
Posted by: Braenyardinski at November 23, 2021 12:29 PM (l029t)
65
"voters who are sick of mandates and lockdowns prefer the GOP so yeah they're catering to the growing segment of freedom-lovers"
Just checking. I'm cynical so I thought it could go either way.
Just checking. I'm cynical so I thought it could go either way.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:29 PM (B0mGw)
66
Paul Ryan for Speaker!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (Pw26M)
........
Is Boehner unavailable?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (Pw26M)
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Is Boehner unavailable?
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (v0R5T)
67
There's nothing with Casino odds. The odds say you will lose and the Casino wins. That's pretty much what happens.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (Y5qcH)
Ever notice how many pawn shops there are in towns w/casinos?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (Y5qcH)
Ever notice how many pawn shops there are in towns w/casinos?
Posted by: BignJames at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (AwYPR)
68
I'd like to see the last two years of Biden done with no new bills (he'll veto everything), but the constant drumbeat of committee hearings into everything from wuhan to Jan6 and in-between.
In-betweens such as . . .
FBI and school moms.
FBI Hunter Biden laptop.
Garland and perjury.
CRT everywhere.
In-betweens such as . . .
FBI and school moms.
FBI Hunter Biden laptop.
Garland and perjury.
CRT everywhere.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (KiBMU)
69
37 Kallisto yeah some places are, it's us I worry about
Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (RxZ8d)
I never even looked at the Federalist link you posted the other day about Delco...because it's actually worse than I could imagine
Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (RxZ8d)
I never even looked at the Federalist link you posted the other day about Delco...because it's actually worse than I could imagine
Posted by: kallisto at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (DJFLF)
70
All the ladies love a military man.
Posted by: Gen. Eric Republican, USAF ret at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (yQpMk)
71
You know what will solve this problem? Mail In Ballots!
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (v0R5T)
.........
Also High Speed Rail.
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM
Monorail!
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:25 PM (v0R5T)
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Also High Speed Rail.
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM
Monorail!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (m+jkK)
72
Now, with that in mind as how things are going to play out, what are best next steps?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (3EWns)
Continuing to undermine the legitimacy and authority of the central government. Whether elections swing back and forth or Democrats maintain a hard lock on the presidency and possibly more, it's the best way to get things sorted.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (3EWns)
Continuing to undermine the legitimacy and authority of the central government. Whether elections swing back and forth or Democrats maintain a hard lock on the presidency and possibly more, it's the best way to get things sorted.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (z5Vrg)
73
How did anyone think that crime family boss Joe Biden and his Chinese-paid handlers were going to create peace and prosperity? Pretty much every war we've gotten into since 1861 was during a Democrat administration. The race-dividers on the Left, who sow hate and reap power, have made it very difficult, maybe impossible, to every be remotely unified again. They promote degeneracy, drug trafficking and racial strife as the sources of power. Odd that anyone would ever see a person like Biden as good.
Posted by: Erik in Texas at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (180Hg)
74
While the primary beneficiary of current voter anger is going to be the GOPe, who have done nothing except sell out their base for years
Which is why those cocksuckers do not deserve a single fucking vote.
there will be winners who have deep populist convictions and will buck the status quo. There will be more Marjorie Green's and Lauren Boebert's next year.
Which is throwing dice in a dark alley while blindfolded and hoping you come up sevens every time. Remember how 'severely conservative' Roberts, Kavanaugh and Barrett were supposed to be?
I'll lay even money that, if the GOP takes the house and senate, they will do nothing - or, perhaps the bare minimum - to reverse Stinkfinger's policies but will leave his most toxic legacies and personnel in place and come 2024, we'll all be here wondering WFT the GOP stabbed us in the back again.
Which is why those cocksuckers do not deserve a single fucking vote.
there will be winners who have deep populist convictions and will buck the status quo. There will be more Marjorie Green's and Lauren Boebert's next year.
Which is throwing dice in a dark alley while blindfolded and hoping you come up sevens every time. Remember how 'severely conservative' Roberts, Kavanaugh and Barrett were supposed to be?
I'll lay even money that, if the GOP takes the house and senate, they will do nothing - or, perhaps the bare minimum - to reverse Stinkfinger's policies but will leave his most toxic legacies and personnel in place and come 2024, we'll all be here wondering WFT the GOP stabbed us in the back again.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (2JVJo)
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (B0mGw)
76
37 we still have Philadelphia and Allegheny County's to worry about
Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (RxZ8d)
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (ZsR3z)
78
62 All else being equal, Dems NOT having total control is better than Dems having total control. But anyone excited thinking Speaker McCarthy will do anything significant is in la-la land.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:29 PM (OalnH)
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I don't think I've seen a single person here who thinks McCarthy is going to be some kind of conservative warrior. At best the opinion seems to be that he'll apply brakes within Congress. At worst he's going to pass everything Biden wants but with 10% more graft for Red Districts.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:29 PM (OalnH)
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I don't think I've seen a single person here who thinks McCarthy is going to be some kind of conservative warrior. At best the opinion seems to be that he'll apply brakes within Congress. At worst he's going to pass everything Biden wants but with 10% more graft for Red Districts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (3EWns)
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Monorail!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (m+jkK)
_________
Bike lanes!
Walking districts!
Monorail!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (m+jkK)
_________
Bike lanes!
Walking districts!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (yTMfZ)
80
I trust the Republican Party not to compromise and "reach across the aisle" effectively giving Democrats power despite losing elections more than I do a poll.
Look, I get wanting good news and something to hope for, and I understand feeling desperate and miserable, so looking for that palm reading promising your love life is about to pick up. Its human nature to want to know the future and desire things to get better.
Its just... better to not expect great and wonderful things from the future. Best to be surprised by good and happy changes than failure and misery.
Look, I get wanting good news and something to hope for, and I understand feeling desperate and miserable, so looking for that palm reading promising your love life is about to pick up. Its human nature to want to know the future and desire things to get better.
Its just... better to not expect great and wonderful things from the future. Best to be surprised by good and happy changes than failure and misery.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (KZzsI)
81
Lin Wood don't float !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (M+Lyo)
82
sigh
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (K3ZCc)
83
The Statue of Liberty is kaput!
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Disconcerting.
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Should have hear her in the 40's when she was at her prime.
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Disconcerting.
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Should have hear her in the 40's when she was at her prime.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (B0mGw)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (yTMfZ)
85
Ever notice how many pawn shops there are in towns w/casinos?
Posted by: BignJames at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (AwYPR)
*picks nose*
Posted by: BignJames at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (AwYPR)
*picks nose*
Posted by: Chumlee at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (f9alp)
86
Forget these fantasy scenarios based on polls.
My fantasy scenario is to be the meat in a Jaime Pressly - Margot Robbie sandwich.
My fantasy scenario is to be the meat in a Jaime Pressly - Margot Robbie sandwich.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (BPuaD)
87
I'd be much more excited about this if voting actually mattered any more. Murphy also lost in NJ. Then -- lo and behold -- tens of thousands of votes were "found" literally in the middle of the night. No reason the same thing won't happen in 2022.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 23, 2021 12:19 PM (iFTx/)
I believe that is comparing apples and oranges. There is no presidential election to steal in 2022. Down ballot, they could only "fortify" a few races to keep or get their weak majorities. I imagine KC and StL in MO will still be ugly with fraud, but we rural folk are ready to vote. Now. And even better, we are ready to tell people all about it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 23, 2021 12:19 PM (iFTx/)
I believe that is comparing apples and oranges. There is no presidential election to steal in 2022. Down ballot, they could only "fortify" a few races to keep or get their weak majorities. I imagine KC and StL in MO will still be ugly with fraud, but we rural folk are ready to vote. Now. And even better, we are ready to tell people all about it.
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (XnnHY)
88
It's a long time until next November.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (63Dwl)
89
Comment on CRT's litany about not trusting polls. I don't trust them either, which is why I have a hobby of analyzing them.
No poll anywhere will over state Republican support. There are only Dem leaning polls, and polls that get close to the right results.
The fact that we have 5 separate pollsters willing to admit that the GOP is leading the congressional generic ballot is eye opening.
No poll anywhere will over state Republican support. There are only Dem leaning polls, and polls that get close to the right results.
The fact that we have 5 separate pollsters willing to admit that the GOP is leading the congressional generic ballot is eye opening.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (5p7BC)
90
Republican Majorities is going to disappoint. But Democrat Majorities suck donkey dicks.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (yQpMk)
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (B0mGw)
92
The House of Representatives is much harder to steal on a large scale because they're so local, running up the total in LA won't help that much. The Senate is somewhat easier to achieve majority control with a few cities.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (z5Vrg)
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But....over 90% of districts are already pre-determined and end up being 70-30 one way or the other due to Gerrymandering.
The battle for control of the house is in 20-30 districts not 435. With the right targeted fraud, the Dems can easily pull off a steal.
The reason the Reps came close in 2020 is because their focus was on the presidency. In 2022 they will have all their focus on the house and senate.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:28 PM (z5Vrg)
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But....over 90% of districts are already pre-determined and end up being 70-30 one way or the other due to Gerrymandering.
The battle for control of the house is in 20-30 districts not 435. With the right targeted fraud, the Dems can easily pull off a steal.
The reason the Reps came close in 2020 is because their focus was on the presidency. In 2022 they will have all their focus on the house and senate.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (OalnH)
93
Monorail!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (m+jkK)
_________
Bike lanes!
Walking districts!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (yTMfZ)
Traffic Circles at every intersection
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (m+jkK)
_________
Bike lanes!
Walking districts!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (yTMfZ)
Traffic Circles at every intersection
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (/6GbT)
94
I'll lay even money that, if the GOP takes the house and senate, they will do nothing - or, perhaps the bare minimum - to reverse Stinkfinger's policies but will leave his most toxic legacies and personnel in place and come 2024, we'll all be here wondering WFT the GOP stabbed us in the back again.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (2JVJo)
If, by some bit of chicanery, POOTUS' BBB bill passes the Senate, there is zero point zero chance that an incoming Republican House will do anything to repeal it. Money that is getting showered onto their districts isn't going back into the Treasury.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (2JVJo)
If, by some bit of chicanery, POOTUS' BBB bill passes the Senate, there is zero point zero chance that an incoming Republican House will do anything to repeal it. Money that is getting showered onto their districts isn't going back into the Treasury.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (mdjgu)
95
What difference will it make?
Posted by: Hillary Clinton, Goldwater Girl at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (8m1jA)
96
Morning wood >>> Lin Wood
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (yTMfZ)
Tree equity!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (yTMfZ)
Tree equity!
Posted by: BignJames at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (AwYPR)
97
Remember how 'severely conservative' Roberts, Kavanaugh and Barrett were supposed to be?
People got suckered by Roberts but the others, everyone pretty much expected them to be squishy moderate elites, but better than the alternative.
Nobody wanted to fight so hard for Kavanagh or Barret, the demented psychos on the left forced us to by going absolutely bonkers over the top.
People got suckered by Roberts but the others, everyone pretty much expected them to be squishy moderate elites, but better than the alternative.
Nobody wanted to fight so hard for Kavanagh or Barret, the demented psychos on the left forced us to by going absolutely bonkers over the top.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (KZzsI)
98
In 2023, assuming these predictions are borne out by events, Biden's agenda is dead in the water. But we really are in a more dangerous area. His controllers and media cheerleaders start advocating rule by decree. Unrest in cities grows.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (yTMfZ)
that's the part that has me very interested. what happens when biden, kum-ala, and the rest PLUS the media are out all day every day telling the LIVs that they'd help them but those horrible, evil republicans in the house and senate are constantly stopping them, and won't someone rid me of this turbulent priest...
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (yTMfZ)
that's the part that has me very interested. what happens when biden, kum-ala, and the rest PLUS the media are out all day every day telling the LIVs that they'd help them but those horrible, evil republicans in the house and senate are constantly stopping them, and won't someone rid me of this turbulent priest...
Posted by: Captain Clarence Oveur at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (8D42x)
99
This is a good thing. I am hearing good things more often. I was having coffee this morning and overheard someone say "It took Biden for me to miss Trump". I get a real sense that people are coming to this realization. They might not have cared to Trump, but you can't argue with the comparatives between he and Biden.
This is a good thing. I am hearing good things more often. I was having coffee this morning and overheard someone say "It took Biden for me to miss Trump". I get a real sense that people are coming to this realization. They might not have cared to Trump, but you can't argue with the comparatives between he and Biden.
Posted by: portlandon at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (+oR7L)
100
I trust OJ Simpson standing next to a carving knife more than I do polls.
I trust the Lincoln Project members watching over a Boy Scout troop more than I do polls.
I trust the Lincoln Project members watching over a Boy Scout troop more than I do polls.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (N39Ws)
101
I trust Kamalama not to drag her teeth more than I do polls.
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:26 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: st at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (8D42x)
102
Thanks DiF
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (yrol0)
103
89 The fact that we have 5 separate pollsters willing to admit that the GOP is leading the congressional generic ballot is eye opening.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (5p7BC)
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It's also interesting because I was assured that Democrats had a total lock on elections forever and didn't need to worry about public sentiment anymore. And then I was assured that McAullife losing in VA was part of the plan to get people off the Dominion scent, or something.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (5p7BC)
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It's also interesting because I was assured that Democrats had a total lock on elections forever and didn't need to worry about public sentiment anymore. And then I was assured that McAullife losing in VA was part of the plan to get people off the Dominion scent, or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (3EWns)
104
November 2022 is a long way off.
Posted by: Javems at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (VDPPl)
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (4fSQf)
106
damnit. forgot to change my socks from this morning AND messed up when i tried...
i think it's whiskey time...
i think it's whiskey time...
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (8D42x)
107
Lin Wood, is that you?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:29 PM (3EWns)
Wood called in to the local talk station this morning to say that Kyle Rittenhouse was lying in his interview with Tucker when he said Wood advised he stay in jail and also stole money from his defense fund.
Wood also says Hannity, within a week of the stolen election, said it was all on the up and up and Trump should just admit he lost.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:29 PM (3EWns)
Wood called in to the local talk station this morning to say that Kyle Rittenhouse was lying in his interview with Tucker when he said Wood advised he stay in jail and also stole money from his defense fund.
Wood also says Hannity, within a week of the stolen election, said it was all on the up and up and Trump should just admit he lost.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (2JVJo)
108
Traffic Circles at every intersection
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (/6GbT)
__________
Midnight basketball
Laptops for every student
Traffic Circles at every intersection
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (/6GbT)
__________
Midnight basketball
Laptops for every student
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (/U27+)
109
The irony here is that a lot of potential, nominal Republican voters are more likely to sit this one out as punishment for 2020 and the perpetual backstabbing the GOP has engaged in with their base. On the surface, yea it'd be nice to roll back the Socialist-Democrats but to be perfectly honest, I'd rather see the GOP suffer a humiliating defeat and lose dozens of seats in the House and at least a dozen in the Senate. The sooner that collection of grifters and RINO's goes the way of the Dodo the better.
It's not like they're going to change anything. Electing the GOP time after time is just political extortion.
It's not like they're going to change anything. Electing the GOP time after time is just political extortion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (BFigT)
110
Dave, shouldn't one be comparing the generic ballot with the resulting margin of house seats rather than the number D seats lost gained?
Or, alternatively, comparing the change in generic ballot to the number of seats lost gained?
It just seems we're doing a bit of apples and oranges (yes, I know the comparisons you've made are the ones that are always discussed in this context).
Or, alternatively, comparing the change in generic ballot to the number of seats lost gained?
It just seems we're doing a bit of apples and oranges (yes, I know the comparisons you've made are the ones that are always discussed in this context).
Posted by: Methos at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM (kOpft)
111
"Wood also says Hannity, within a week of the stolen election, said it was all on the up and up and Trump should just admit he lost."
Even if this is true, Hannity will say anything his masters tell him to say. He's a whore.
Even if this is true, Hannity will say anything his masters tell him to say. He's a whore.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM (B0mGw)
112
And then I was assured that McAullife losing in VA was part of the plan to get people off the Dominion scent, or something.
Who said that to you?
Who said that to you?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM (KZzsI)
113
99
This is a good thing. I am hearing good things more often. I was having coffee this morning and overheard someone say "It took Biden for me to miss Trump". I get a real sense that people are coming to this realization. They might not have cared to Trump, but you can't argue with the comparatives between he and Biden.
Posted by: portlandon at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (+oR7L)
As heartening as it may be to hear people have voter regret, they still deserve a high and hearty f*** you. This is their fault. They failed to educate themselves on who they voted for. This is their fault.
This is a good thing. I am hearing good things more often. I was having coffee this morning and overheard someone say "It took Biden for me to miss Trump". I get a real sense that people are coming to this realization. They might not have cared to Trump, but you can't argue with the comparatives between he and Biden.
Posted by: portlandon at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (+oR7L)
As heartening as it may be to hear people have voter regret, they still deserve a high and hearty f*** you. This is their fault. They failed to educate themselves on who they voted for. This is their fault.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM (N39Ws)
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109 The irony here is that a lot of potential, nominal Republican voters are more likely to sit this one out as punishment for 2020 and the perpetual backstabbing the GOP has engaged in with their base. On the surface, yea it'd be nice to roll back the Socialist-Democrats but to be perfectly honest, I'd rather see the GOP suffer a humiliating defeat and lose dozens of seats in the House and at least a dozen in the Senate. The sooner that collection of grifters and RINO's goes the way of the Dodo the better.
It's not like they're going to change anything. Electing the GOP time after time is just political extortion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (BFigT)
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Nah. Red team vs. blue team!
WOOOOO!!!!
It's not like they're going to change anything. Electing the GOP time after time is just political extortion.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (BFigT)
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Nah. Red team vs. blue team!
WOOOOO!!!!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM (3EWns)
115
At worst he's going to pass everything Biden wants but with 10% more graft for Red Districts.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (3EWns)
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So typical GOP behavior of the past 30 years.
Dems: We want X
Reps: Hell no, we'll give you 80% of X at most.
Dems: Make it 90% and you got a deal
Reps: DEAL!
Next day fundraising email: We stopped the radical Democrats from Doing X.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (3EWns)
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So typical GOP behavior of the past 30 years.
Dems: We want X
Reps: Hell no, we'll give you 80% of X at most.
Dems: Make it 90% and you got a deal
Reps: DEAL!
Next day fundraising email: We stopped the radical Democrats from Doing X.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM (OalnH)
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Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (2JVJo)
I trust a political poll more than I trust Lin Wood.
(h/t CRT)
I trust a political poll more than I trust Lin Wood.
(h/t CRT)
Posted by: kallisto at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM (DJFLF)
Posted by: TANSTAAFL6823 at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM (fBtlL)
118
All bets are off if Michelle Obama takes over.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (63Dwl)
119
It's a long time until next November.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM
Da. Is very long time.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM
Da. Is very long time.
Posted by: V. Putin at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (m+jkK)
120
111 "Wood also says Hannity, within a week of the stolen election, said it was all on the up and up and Trump should just admit he lost."
Even if this is true, Hannity will say anything his masters tell him to say. He's a whore.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM (B0mGw)
This. He gets it.
Even if this is true, Hannity will say anything his masters tell him to say. He's a whore.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM (B0mGw)
This. He gets it.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (N39Ws)
121
"We're gonna need another 10+ million illegal aliens in here by next year, stat!"
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (4fSQf)
122
The fact that we have 5 separate pollsters willing to admit that the GOP is leading the congressional generic ballot is eye opening.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (5p7BC)
Dave, when polling - at best - comes to the point where you need to analyze the trends coming from Dem-leaning pollsters, it now approaches Kremlinology, and ceases to be a science worth studying.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM (5p7BC)
Dave, when polling - at best - comes to the point where you need to analyze the trends coming from Dem-leaning pollsters, it now approaches Kremlinology, and ceases to be a science worth studying.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (mdjgu)
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Fickle electorate like a pendulum.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (qpX6U)
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118 All bets are off if Michelle Obama takes over.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (63Dwl)
I guess we'll see who has the bigger balls then, won't we?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (63Dwl)
I guess we'll see who has the bigger balls then, won't we?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (N39Ws)
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Its just... better to not expect great and wonderful things from the future. Best to be surprised by good and happy changes than failure and misery.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (KZzsI)
Exactly.
Always expect the worst in any situation and you will never be disappointed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (KZzsI)
Exactly.
Always expect the worst in any situation and you will never be disappointed.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (2JVJo)
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Lin Wood has such poor impulse control that his tweeting pre-Jan 6, 2021 caused a judge to dismiss him from Carter Page's case.
He really lost it over the election
He really lost it over the election
Posted by: kallisto at November 23, 2021 12:37 PM (DJFLF)
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November 2022 is a long way off.
Posted by: Javems at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (VDPPl)
It's less than a year away.
Posted by: Javems at November 23, 2021 12:34 PM (VDPPl)
It's less than a year away.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 23, 2021 12:37 PM (yQpMk)
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Two thoughts: 1) DJT should run for Congress in 2022. A Repub majority could make him Speaker of the House (Yes, He might not be good at that job, but the majority of the work can be delegated. His being Speaker would cut off Dr. Jill's likely plan to disgard Que-mala and insert someone else (Dr. Jill??). Hah, he could end up as Acting President until properly re-elected in 2024!
2) A Repub congress should *immediately* pass a law to discard all existing voter's rolls and require registration with proof of citizenship and photo ID. That would immediately remove the thousands of ghost voters from the rolls. Require that every poll state the number of votes case, verified by the clerk, Dem and Repub monitors at close voting: no more 'found ballots in the middle of the night'.
2) A Repub congress should *immediately* pass a law to discard all existing voter's rolls and require registration with proof of citizenship and photo ID. That would immediately remove the thousands of ghost voters from the rolls. Require that every poll state the number of votes case, verified by the clerk, Dem and Repub monitors at close voting: no more 'found ballots in the middle of the night'.
Posted by: Dyspeptic Curmudgeon at November 23, 2021 12:37 PM (Kc1Sm)
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"they still deserve a high and hearty f*** you. This is their fault. They failed to educate themselves on who they voted for. This is their fault."
And? How is this productive? I suppose if I was running a cult, I would act this way, but when you're trying to win elections "we don't want your vote" is a ridiculous position to take.
And? How is this productive? I suppose if I was running a cult, I would act this way, but when you're trying to win elections "we don't want your vote" is a ridiculous position to take.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:37 PM (B0mGw)
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Will the Gope...
Stop deficit spending? No
Defund or reduce funding to PP? No
Public tv and radio? No
IRS? NO
DOJ? NO
Dept of Ed? No
Pentagon? No
Revoke section 230 protection for big tech? No
On and on.
Stop deficit spending? No
Defund or reduce funding to PP? No
Public tv and radio? No
IRS? NO
DOJ? NO
Dept of Ed? No
Pentagon? No
Revoke section 230 protection for big tech? No
On and on.
Posted by: But what do you win, exactly? at November 23, 2021 12:37 PM (gU91G)
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Dems: We want X
Reps: Hell no, we'll give you 80% of X at most.
Dems: Make it 90% and you got a deal
Reps: DEAL!
__________
"The Navy wanted six dreadnoughts, the Treasury offered four and they compromised on eight."
Dems: We want X
Reps: Hell no, we'll give you 80% of X at most.
Dems: Make it 90% and you got a deal
Reps: DEAL!
__________
"The Navy wanted six dreadnoughts, the Treasury offered four and they compromised on eight."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (/U27+)
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Traffic Circles at every intersection
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (/6Gb
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Great idea. Save on electricity for those damn stoplights.
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (/6Gb
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Great idea. Save on electricity for those damn stoplights.
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (v0R5T)
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Wood called in to the local talk station this morning to say that Kyle Rittenhouse was lying in his interview with Tucker when he said Wood advised he stay in jail and also stole money from his defense fund."
And that's the final straw for me, and I suspect for a lot of people on our side. When Lin Wood doubled back and started calling Kyle Rittenhouse a liar, I'm done with him for good. Nothing but a low life grifter.
And that's the final straw for me, and I suspect for a lot of people on our side. When Lin Wood doubled back and started calling Kyle Rittenhouse a liar, I'm done with him for good. Nothing but a low life grifter.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (trdmm)
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Traffic Circles at every intersection
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (/6GbT)
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I'm all for that. I love roundabouts. I never understand why people have a seering hatred for them. It reduces traffic congestion significantly when it replaces a traditional intersection.
Is it just because it's European so it must be bad thinking?
Posted by: A dude in MI at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (/6GbT)
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I'm all for that. I love roundabouts. I never understand why people have a seering hatred for them. It reduces traffic congestion significantly when it replaces a traditional intersection.
Is it just because it's European so it must be bad thinking?
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (OalnH)
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Even if this is true, Hannity will say anything his masters tell him to say. He's a whore.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM
Sir, we protest this comparison!
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM
Sir, we protest this comparison!
Posted by: Local 69, Whores, Street Walkers, Seamstresses and Allied Professions at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (m+jkK)
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Then add in House seats lost from Blue states due to the census; pile on redistricting in those red states.
Posted by: Lrrr at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (N/+jC)
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Require that every poll state the number of votes case, verified by the clerk, Dem and Repub monitors at close voting: no more 'found ballots in the middle of the night'.
Sounds good, but again, Judge Waikiki has a say.
Sounds good, but again, Judge Waikiki has a say.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (ZsR3z)
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See the problem is that we used to go "well the elections are the poll that counts, then we'll be heard as a people".
Well that's not true is it? We don't have that trust any more. Nobody saw the Virginia elections and knew confidently it was going to turn out with a Republican win, because everyone knew the left would cheat as hard as it could to get that win. We breathed a sigh of relief that for once they didn't cheat the win (but did in other states like New Jersey).
Its like watching movies now. We used to go to a movie expecting it to be fun and entertaining. When it wasn't, we were disappointed.
Now we go to movies expecting them to suck, like a beaten child cringing as they walk past dad, and we're surprised and happy when they aren't preachy leftist crap.
The worm has turned, nobody really trusts elections any longer. The fact that we see an exception to this rule once in a while does not somehow reverse this or erase 2020.
Well that's not true is it? We don't have that trust any more. Nobody saw the Virginia elections and knew confidently it was going to turn out with a Republican win, because everyone knew the left would cheat as hard as it could to get that win. We breathed a sigh of relief that for once they didn't cheat the win (but did in other states like New Jersey).
Its like watching movies now. We used to go to a movie expecting it to be fun and entertaining. When it wasn't, we were disappointed.
Now we go to movies expecting them to suck, like a beaten child cringing as they walk past dad, and we're surprised and happy when they aren't preachy leftist crap.
The worm has turned, nobody really trusts elections any longer. The fact that we see an exception to this rule once in a while does not somehow reverse this or erase 2020.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (KZzsI)
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Ugh, I have to work 2-10 today. Think I'll make some tea and be back in a bit.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (2JVJo)
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I'm done with him for good. Nothing but a low life grifter.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (trdmm)
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A lawyer is a grifter? Say it ain't so!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (trdmm)
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A lawyer is a grifter? Say it ain't so!!
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:39 PM (OalnH)
141
maybe the funniest thing written this year is that bitch whining about her 15 mins of fame being used for her self analing via twitter.
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:39 PM (K3ZCc)
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Even if this is true, Hannity will say anything his masters tell him to say. He's a whore.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM -
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He may be a gop-e whore, but at least he's a gop-e KARATE whore.
Even if this is true, Hannity will say anything his masters tell him to say. He's a whore.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:35 PM -
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He may be a gop-e whore, but at least he's a gop-e KARATE whore.
Posted by: irright at November 23, 2021 12:39 PM (8rX4S)
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If Trump manages to win in 2024, what are the chances that some Democrat claims he must leave office in 2026 ?
Posted by: SMOD at November 23, 2021 12:39 PM (RHGPo)
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Its just... better to not expect great and wonderful things from the future. Best to be surprised by good and happy changes than failure and misery.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (KZzsI)
Yes, but broadwaving one's hopelessness is a tad unseemly. Stiff upper lip, suffer in silence, etc etc.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:31 PM (KZzsI)
Yes, but broadwaving one's hopelessness is a tad unseemly. Stiff upper lip, suffer in silence, etc etc.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 23, 2021 12:39 PM (yQpMk)
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I still expect them to try and cancel or otherwise limit elections.
Only vaccinated with the most recent hourly booster can vote ... everybody locked in their homes for a few weeks owing to a "climate catastrophe" ... non-white votes should count 10 times as much ... something because: who's going to stop them?
Only vaccinated with the most recent hourly booster can vote ... everybody locked in their homes for a few weeks owing to a "climate catastrophe" ... non-white votes should count 10 times as much ... something because: who's going to stop them?
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at November 23, 2021 12:39 PM (4fSQf)
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After stealing the election, they really thought that the policies they were going enact would result in economic improvement,
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I disagree with this statement. They didn't think their policies would cause economic improvement. They thought that would just happen on its own and their policies could just be enacted. It's the same thing they thought under Obama and couldn't figure out why the growth never met the expectations. And why they could not credit Trump. They are completely disconnected from how government policies can affect the economy.
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I disagree with this statement. They didn't think their policies would cause economic improvement. They thought that would just happen on its own and their policies could just be enacted. It's the same thing they thought under Obama and couldn't figure out why the growth never met the expectations. And why they could not credit Trump. They are completely disconnected from how government policies can affect the economy.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 23, 2021 12:39 PM (cFsny)
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Is it just because it's European so it must be bad thinking?
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (OalnH)
It's because stupid people jam them up being stupid. And there is a lot of stupid people out there.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (OalnH)
It's because stupid people jam them up being stupid. And there is a lot of stupid people out there.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 23, 2021 12:40 PM (Y5qcH)
148
I bet they'll do another lockdown before the midterms.
Posted by: Max Power at November 23, 2021 12:40 PM (Hucnr)
149
Always expect the worst in any situation and you will never be disappointed.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (2JVJo)
but then reality happens and the worst you imagined turns out NOT to be the worst, just a bit worser.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:36 PM (2JVJo)
but then reality happens and the worst you imagined turns out NOT to be the worst, just a bit worser.
Posted by: cya4+1 at November 23, 2021 12:40 PM (oSX/P)
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But....over 90% of districts are already pre-determined and end up being 70-30 one way or the other due to Gerrymandering.
The battle for control of the house is in 20-30 districts not 435. With the right targeted fraud, the Dems can easily pull off a steal.
The reason the Reps came close in 2020 is because their focus was on the presidency. In 2022 they will have all their focus on the house and senate.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (OalnH)
The districts up for grabs are pretty definitionally not in major cities/centers of fraud. Yes they can concentrate their efforts but it's also a lot harder.
The battle for control of the house is in 20-30 districts not 435. With the right targeted fraud, the Dems can easily pull off a steal.
The reason the Reps came close in 2020 is because their focus was on the presidency. In 2022 they will have all their focus on the house and senate.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (OalnH)
The districts up for grabs are pretty definitionally not in major cities/centers of fraud. Yes they can concentrate their efforts but it's also a lot harder.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:40 PM (z5Vrg)
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Ugh, I have to work 2-10 today. Think I'll make some tea and be back in a bit.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM
Soon....
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM
Soon....
Posted by: Retirement at November 23, 2021 12:40 PM (m+jkK)
152
Mandatory chip implant to fight covid before the election !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 23, 2021 12:40 PM (M+Lyo)
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133 Wood called in to the local talk station this morning to say that Kyle Rittenhouse was lying in his interview with Tucker when he said Wood advised he stay in jail and also stole money from his defense fund."
And that's the final straw for me, and I suspect for a lot of people on our side. When Lin Wood doubled back and started calling Kyle Rittenhouse a liar, I'm done with him for good. Nothing but a low life grifter.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (trdmm)
If Lin Wood is correct, he should be suing Rittenhouse for slander. If Rittenhouse is correct, he should be going after Wood's law license for theft. Until I see either of these things happening, I'm just not going to care about this little slapfest.
And that's the final straw for me, and I suspect for a lot of people on our side. When Lin Wood doubled back and started calling Kyle Rittenhouse a liar, I'm done with him for good. Nothing but a low life grifter.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:38 PM (trdmm)
If Lin Wood is correct, he should be suing Rittenhouse for slander. If Rittenhouse is correct, he should be going after Wood's law license for theft. Until I see either of these things happening, I'm just not going to care about this little slapfest.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (mdjgu)
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I disagree with this statement. They didn't think their policies would cause economic improvement. They thought that would just happen on its own and their policies could just be enacted. It's the same thing they thought under Obama and couldn't figure out why the growth never met the expectations. And why they could not credit Trump. They are completely disconnected from how government policies can affect the economy.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 23, 2021 12:39 PM (cFsny)
Their magic wand comments does pretty clearly reflect this.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 23, 2021 12:39 PM (cFsny)
Their magic wand comments does pretty clearly reflect this.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (z5Vrg)
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this has nothing to do with polling...but TIL that there is also a political prisoner being held without a trial date, and she is not a J6 detainee...nor is she even a Deplorable!
Lore Elisabeth Blumenthal, who was arrested in Philadelphia after she was ID'd as a rioter who set a police car on fire...a federal crime...is still in Philly's Club Fed with no trial date pending.
I totally expected the new administration to release any of the "friendlies" that the Trump prosecutors had jailed. I don't know...maybe they just didn't get to her name on the list yet.
hmmmm....
Lore Elisabeth Blumenthal, who was arrested in Philadelphia after she was ID'd as a rioter who set a police car on fire...a federal crime...is still in Philly's Club Fed with no trial date pending.
I totally expected the new administration to release any of the "friendlies" that the Trump prosecutors had jailed. I don't know...maybe they just didn't get to her name on the list yet.
hmmmm....
Posted by: kallisto at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (DJFLF)
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Wood called in to the local talk station this morning to say that Kyle Rittenhouse was lying in his interview with Tucker when he said Wood advised he stay in jail and also stole money from his defense fund."
And that's the final straw for me, and I suspect for a lot of people on our side. When Lin Wood doubled back and started calling Kyle Rittenhouse a liar, I'm done with him for good. Nothing but a low life grifter.
Posted by: T
and rittenhouse
And that's the final straw for me, and I suspect for a lot of people on our side. When Lin Wood doubled back and started calling Kyle Rittenhouse a liar, I'm done with him for good. Nothing but a low life grifter.
Posted by: T
and rittenhouse
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (K3ZCc)
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The battle for control of the house is in 20-30 districts not 435. With the right targeted fraud, the Dems can easily pull off a steal.
The reason the Reps came close in 2020 is because their focus was on the presidency. In 2022 they will have all their focus on the house and senate.
Posted by: Joe XiDen
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The idea is right, but the math is wrong. The gerrymandering only resulted in 55-45 districts at best. There are actually 100 districts that can swing.
Keep in mind that the country on a district my district level leans conservative. The Dems can't win if they stick 70% of their voters in core blue districts.
The reason the Reps came close in 2020 is because their focus was on the presidency. In 2022 they will have all their focus on the house and senate.
Posted by: Joe XiDen
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The idea is right, but the math is wrong. The gerrymandering only resulted in 55-45 districts at best. There are actually 100 districts that can swing.
Keep in mind that the country on a district my district level leans conservative. The Dems can't win if they stick 70% of their voters in core blue districts.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (5p7BC)
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If House Republicans actually get what they are whispering about, 50-60 seats, it will be both historic and a little sad. Their probable response will be to gleefully start grifting, even while passing watered-down Democrat policies into law, claiming "centrism!!". I sort of hate what's coming nearly as much as I hate what is already happening.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (NBppC)
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130 Will the Gope...
Stop deficit spending? No
Defund or reduce funding to PP? No
Public tv and radio? No
IRS? NO
Posted by: But what do you win, exactly?
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But we will do amnesty and sign on to all sorts of climate change rift opportunities. Send $100 ASAP so we can stop the radical Biden Pelosi agenda.
- GOPe
Stop deficit spending? No
Defund or reduce funding to PP? No
Public tv and radio? No
IRS? NO
Posted by: But what do you win, exactly?
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But we will do amnesty and sign on to all sorts of climate change rift opportunities. Send $100 ASAP so we can stop the radical Biden Pelosi agenda.
- GOPe
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (OalnH)
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We'll see what happens. I suspect people who are persuadable are fewer.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (V6f9+)
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I trust a fart after 50 more than I trust polls.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (rwUGg)
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I was watching Matt Gaetz on war room and he was saying that he and a number of other Reps are getting the ball rolling on investigations and lawsuits if the GOP takes control of congress.
Bannon asked him if leadership was on board.
Gaetz said no, they weren't.
Bannon was like, "here we fucking go again!!"
Bannon asked him if leadership was on board.
Gaetz said no, they weren't.
Bannon was like, "here we fucking go again!!"
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (ic6SW)
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If I even SEE a Dominion machine I will take a fire axe to it.
Who's with me?
Who's with me?
Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (jTmQV)
164
Captain Jack McCarthy>Joe McCarthy>Charlie McCarthy>Kevin McCarthy
Posted by: First Son at November 23, 2021 12:42 PM (JPtHE)
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Obligatory events dear boy and Winston Wolf warnings here.
That said, I can see this being a huge backlash because the promise was vote for Dems and things will go back to being nice and pleasant and boring and not so much.
Also add in that the vaccine and vaccine mandates are seen as being 100% Democrat owned, which is hilarious given how pre-election it was being pushed as the Trump vaccine, and people are livid, justifiably so, that the promise of get the vaccine and all this COVID stuff ends is turning out to be a lie.
We shall see what happens.
That said, I can see this being a huge backlash because the promise was vote for Dems and things will go back to being nice and pleasant and boring and not so much.
Also add in that the vaccine and vaccine mandates are seen as being 100% Democrat owned, which is hilarious given how pre-election it was being pushed as the Trump vaccine, and people are livid, justifiably so, that the promise of get the vaccine and all this COVID stuff ends is turning out to be a lie.
We shall see what happens.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 23, 2021 12:42 PM (mf5HN)
166
Reading Molly's Rigged is a awakening on how bad our voting system is
Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 23, 2021 12:42 PM (RxZ8d)
167
crop circles > traffic circles
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:43 PM (v0R5T)
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He may be a gop-e whore, but at least he's a gop-e KARATE whore.
Posted by: irright at November 23, 2021 12:39 PM
And a KARATE whore bruise on the inside. They don't show they weaknesses!
Posted by: irright at November 23, 2021 12:39 PM
And a KARATE whore bruise on the inside. They don't show they weaknesses!
Posted by: Billy Ray Valentine (Capricorn) at November 23, 2021 12:43 PM (m+jkK)
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After stealing the election, they really thought that the policies they were going enact would result in economic improvement,
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I disagree with this statement. They didn't think their policies would cause economic improvement. They thought that would just happen on its own and their policies could just be enacted. It's the same thing they thought under Obama and couldn't figure out why the growth never met the expectations. And why they could not credit Trump. They are completely disconnected from how government policies can affect the economy.
Posted by: B
And they thought that nobody would be there to stop what they were doing
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I disagree with this statement. They didn't think their policies would cause economic improvement. They thought that would just happen on its own and their policies could just be enacted. It's the same thing they thought under Obama and couldn't figure out why the growth never met the expectations. And why they could not credit Trump. They are completely disconnected from how government policies can affect the economy.
Posted by: B
And they thought that nobody would be there to stop what they were doing
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:43 PM (K3ZCc)
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OT/ I see Poso posted Ring doorbell footage of the parade mass murderer trying to get a home owner to call uber for him. Guess he used the guy's driveway but the cops found him anyway. Filth.
https://tinyurl.com/n2e45cn5
https://tinyurl.com/n2e45cn5
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 23, 2021 12:43 PM (wAnMi)
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I'm so excited to see what all the Republicans can't and don't get done when they're in charge again.
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at November 23, 2021 12:43 PM (vluul)
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https://___ur.com/hep4JIo
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at November 23, 2021 12:43 PM (qpX6U)
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Well that's not true is it? We don't have that trust any more. Nobody saw the Virginia elections and knew confidently it was going to turn out with a Republican win, because everyone knew the left would cheat as hard as it could to get that win.
Two points:
1) The potential for cheating is overstated. They won't be able to get away with what they did in '20, because people now know what they're capable of, and because, as others have pointed out, it's hard to cheat enough to influence Congressional elections.
2) The GOP has a vested interest in tightening up the voting rules. They're stupid and corrupt, but not suicidal. That, and they've been told in no uncertain terms that a repeat of '20 will be the end of them. I listened to 6 months of moaning about Youngkin, but lo and behold, things had been put in place to fix the problems.
Two points:
1) The potential for cheating is overstated. They won't be able to get away with what they did in '20, because people now know what they're capable of, and because, as others have pointed out, it's hard to cheat enough to influence Congressional elections.
2) The GOP has a vested interest in tightening up the voting rules. They're stupid and corrupt, but not suicidal. That, and they've been told in no uncertain terms that a repeat of '20 will be the end of them. I listened to 6 months of moaning about Youngkin, but lo and behold, things had been put in place to fix the problems.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:43 PM (ZsR3z)
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"I sort of hate what's coming nearly as much as I hate what is already happening."
I know exactly what you mean, Huck. They won't start chopping trees. They won't drain the swamp. They're going to sit on their wins like a toad and do jack.
I know exactly what you mean, Huck. They won't start chopping trees. They won't drain the swamp. They're going to sit on their wins like a toad and do jack.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:44 PM (B0mGw)
175
The GOP is shit. There is no hope for us even if they win elections.
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 23, 2021 12:44 PM (DiVy8)
176
How to get arrested and sent into the gulag, in one easy instruction:
If I even SEE a Dominion machine I will take a fire axe to it. Who's with me?
If I even SEE a Dominion machine I will take a fire axe to it. Who's with me?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 12:44 PM (NBppC)
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Thanks Dave, as always good work and analysis and putting of knowledge.
Quick glance seems to show most of the obvious comments have been covered.
Will reiterate that the "stolen election" thing, while very plausible, really needs to be documented in detail, and then some, to leave the "climate change" category of something (in some circles) routinely assumed to exist but never quite shown to exist.
A sub-chapter of this is the mostly silly idea that CA elections would turn out differently without fraud. Prior to the ridiculously outrageous idea of ballot harvesting, CA elections reflected the ignorance and practical stupidity - and self-dealing - of an electorate that marinates in the cartoon propaganda of the "press" and is now decades into corrupted "education".
Look at the issues, look at ballot propositions, from before harvesting. Steady downward line into idiocy, on every issue. Also, "discouraged" voters is a factor in many areas, as I think research has confirmed (and I know from real life). More "conservative" voters who just gave up a while ago.
Quick glance seems to show most of the obvious comments have been covered.
Will reiterate that the "stolen election" thing, while very plausible, really needs to be documented in detail, and then some, to leave the "climate change" category of something (in some circles) routinely assumed to exist but never quite shown to exist.
A sub-chapter of this is the mostly silly idea that CA elections would turn out differently without fraud. Prior to the ridiculously outrageous idea of ballot harvesting, CA elections reflected the ignorance and practical stupidity - and self-dealing - of an electorate that marinates in the cartoon propaganda of the "press" and is now decades into corrupted "education".
Look at the issues, look at ballot propositions, from before harvesting. Steady downward line into idiocy, on every issue. Also, "discouraged" voters is a factor in many areas, as I think research has confirmed (and I know from real life). More "conservative" voters who just gave up a while ago.
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Back in March a question was asked regarding the Democrat plans to win the midterms. The Democrats had planned to run on a booming economy and world stability.
Idiots of Keynes economics forgot all about that lower taxes shit.
Fools.
We are indeed ruled by idiots.
Idiots of Keynes economics forgot all about that lower taxes shit.
Fools.
We are indeed ruled by idiots.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 23, 2021 12:44 PM (usgok)
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My problem with Democrats losing seats is that means Republicans gaining seats. And Republicans helped the election theft in 2020. When your choices are between a thief and a liar....bleh.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 23, 2021 12:44 PM (V6f9+)
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Wow.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 12:44 PM (NBppC)
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My problem with traffic circles comes in several parts.
1) They are an expensive refitting and construction for no good reason other than "they do this in Europe so it must be better"
2) Americans are not used to the damned things and this results in chaos, and drunks crashing over the center area over and over.
3) They are not objectively better than a four way stop, just one that gives the sense of continuous action rather than waiting. If you like that illusion fine, but that doesn't make them actually better
4) They suck for anything but cars. Crossing the road without a stop pattern makes it an adventure at best for pedestrians.
5) Places with a lot of snow or ice do not fare as well with constantly moving, turning vehicles
6) They take up significantly more real estate than an intersection
1) They are an expensive refitting and construction for no good reason other than "they do this in Europe so it must be better"
2) Americans are not used to the damned things and this results in chaos, and drunks crashing over the center area over and over.
3) They are not objectively better than a four way stop, just one that gives the sense of continuous action rather than waiting. If you like that illusion fine, but that doesn't make them actually better
4) They suck for anything but cars. Crossing the road without a stop pattern makes it an adventure at best for pedestrians.
5) Places with a lot of snow or ice do not fare as well with constantly moving, turning vehicles
6) They take up significantly more real estate than an intersection
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:45 PM (KZzsI)
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Anyway, ammo prices are down-ish. So this is the week to stock up if you haven't already.
CCI MiniMags are in stock, even!
CCI MiniMags are in stock, even!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 23, 2021 12:45 PM (V6f9+)
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My choice for Speaker would be Louie Gohmert but the sewage bog swamp in Washington City makes him sick. I think he's gonna be the next Texas Attorney General. And hey, you know what? Texas needs him home more than Congressional District 1 needs him in DC.
Posted by: Eromero at November 23, 2021 12:45 PM (0OP+5)
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Is it possible to get a real conservative to primary McCarthy?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 23, 2021 12:45 PM (Vxu+H)
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"Looming loses for Democrats"?
Look at all of those charts and graphs that all equal to a giant bag of dicks.
People around here seem to think that they're votes mean something despite the mathematical impossibility of the installed one winning the election after everyone went to bed on election night.
The blatant cheating that people could see going on which was no doubt a fraction of the cheating that we couldn't see.
Anyhow gas is getting expensive and the dollar is getting weaker. I think I'll save the scratch that it would take to waste my time going to a polling outlet.
Look at all of those charts and graphs that all equal to a giant bag of dicks.
People around here seem to think that they're votes mean something despite the mathematical impossibility of the installed one winning the election after everyone went to bed on election night.
The blatant cheating that people could see going on which was no doubt a fraction of the cheating that we couldn't see.
Anyhow gas is getting expensive and the dollar is getting weaker. I think I'll save the scratch that it would take to waste my time going to a polling outlet.
Posted by: Drider at November 23, 2021 12:45 PM (R/UH9)
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Democrats want 10, they ask for 20. Republicans compromise and give 15, then declare that they secured a decrease of 5.
The democrats declare a crisis that won't be resolved unless they get 50. Republicans give it to them.
The democrats declare a crisis that won't be resolved unless they get 50. Republicans give it to them.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 12:45 PM (Pw26M)
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But we will do amnesty and sign on to all sorts of climate change rift opportunities. Send $100 ASAP so we can stop the radical Biden Pelosi agenda.
- GOPe
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (OalnH)
Neither party is going to avoid the decline and crash. But it does affect how the crash will play out and the ensuing conflicts. Our best option is not necessarily "prolong things as long as possible by electing the least bad" though.
But we will do amnesty and sign on to all sorts of climate change rift opportunities. Send $100 ASAP so we can stop the radical Biden Pelosi agenda.
- GOPe
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (OalnH)
Neither party is going to avoid the decline and crash. But it does affect how the crash will play out and the ensuing conflicts. Our best option is not necessarily "prolong things as long as possible by electing the least bad" though.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:45 PM (z5Vrg)
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But....over 90% of districts are already pre-determined and end up being 70-30 one way or the other due to Gerrymandering. The battle for control of the house is in 20-30 districts not 435. With the right targeted fraud, the Dems can easily pull off a steal. The reason the Reps came close in 2020 is because their focus was on the presidency. In 2022 they will have all their focus on the house and senate. Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:33 PM (OalnH)
The premise is correct -- many, many House seats are not competitive (gerrymandered either red or blue). However, the places where the Dems can pull big time fraud, big enough to matter, are only in a handful of deep blue counties. Those can affect the Senate elections, but not the House. They are already gerrymandered blue, so piling up the vote in races they're going to win anyway does no good.
The competitive races are likely to trend red, and this may be a wave election where some unexpected blue seats will go red here and there, like Tom Foley's seat did in 1994.
The premise is correct -- many, many House seats are not competitive (gerrymandered either red or blue). However, the places where the Dems can pull big time fraud, big enough to matter, are only in a handful of deep blue counties. Those can affect the Senate elections, but not the House. They are already gerrymandered blue, so piling up the vote in races they're going to win anyway does no good.
The competitive races are likely to trend red, and this may be a wave election where some unexpected blue seats will go red here and there, like Tom Foley's seat did in 1994.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (BMmaB)
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Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (yQpMk)
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Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (qpX6U)
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I read the Florida dems are busy tightening up the voting districts to eliminate a few R's and the R's are no where in sight. In Florida. WTF?
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (DiVy8)
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Someone upthread mentioned the changes do to population change. Dave, has anyone taken this into account? I live in MT and we picked up a second seta. Luckily the gerrymandering went nowhere on it and we will have 2 conservative reps after Nov. 2022.
How many other staets picked up or lost reps?
How many other staets picked up or lost reps?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (2NHgQ)
Posted by: Jerry Nadler at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (sVfvf)
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My problem with traffic circles comes in several parts.
1) They are an expensive refitting and construction for no good reason other than "they do this in Europe so it must be better"
2) Americans are not used to the damned things and this results in chaos, and drunks crashing over the center area over and over.
3) They are not objectively better than a four way stop, just one that gives the sense of continuous action rather than waiting. If you like that illusion fine, but that doesn't make them actually better
4) They suck for anything but cars. Crossing the road without a stop pattern makes it an adventure at best for pedestrians.
5) Places with a lot of snow or ice do not fare as well with constantly moving, turning vehicles
6) They take up significantly more real estate than an intersection
they are stupid
they are for and desired by fags
1) They are an expensive refitting and construction for no good reason other than "they do this in Europe so it must be better"
2) Americans are not used to the damned things and this results in chaos, and drunks crashing over the center area over and over.
3) They are not objectively better than a four way stop, just one that gives the sense of continuous action rather than waiting. If you like that illusion fine, but that doesn't make them actually better
4) They suck for anything but cars. Crossing the road without a stop pattern makes it an adventure at best for pedestrians.
5) Places with a lot of snow or ice do not fare as well with constantly moving, turning vehicles
6) They take up significantly more real estate than an intersection
they are stupid
they are for and desired by fags
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (K3ZCc)
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173 2) The GOP has a vested interest in tightening up the voting rules. They're stupid and corrupt, but not suicidal. That, and they've been told in no uncertain terms that a repeat of '20 will be the end of them. I listened to 6 months of moaning about Youngkin, but lo and behold, things had been put in place to fix the problems.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:43 PM (ZsR3z)
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"We're free of Trump forever!"
-January 20, 2021
"Um...we need to do something. The bottom is falling out."
-January 27, 2021
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:43 PM (ZsR3z)
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"We're free of Trump forever!"
-January 20, 2021
"Um...we need to do something. The bottom is falling out."
-January 27, 2021
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (3EWns)
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In Georgia I believe Trump has endorsed Herschel Walker who is leading the Republican candidates and is running against Raphael Warnock.
I pray Herschel wins.
I pray Herschel wins.
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If Lin Wood is correct, he should be suing Rittenhouse for slander. If Rittenhouse is correct, he should be going after Wood's law license for theft. Until I see either of these things happening, I'm just not going to care about this little slapfest.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (mdjgu)
There IS a legal fight between them starting right now, and in it Lin Wood disgusts me even more. Kyle had to put up $2 million in bail to get released; this was collected from contributions around the country. Now that the case is over, the Bail is being released by the State and Kyle and his family say that since it was raised from contributions for them, it should go to them.
But Lin Wood says No, he set up the paperwork to create the fund for Kyle, so HE should get the entire $2 million and Kyle shouldn't get anything.
what a piece of shit he's turned out to be.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (mdjgu)
There IS a legal fight between them starting right now, and in it Lin Wood disgusts me even more. Kyle had to put up $2 million in bail to get released; this was collected from contributions around the country. Now that the case is over, the Bail is being released by the State and Kyle and his family say that since it was raised from contributions for them, it should go to them.
But Lin Wood says No, he set up the paperwork to create the fund for Kyle, so HE should get the entire $2 million and Kyle shouldn't get anything.
what a piece of shit he's turned out to be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at November 23, 2021 12:47 PM (qpX6U)
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Dog Mess Bleached White By The Sun > GOP Control Of Congress
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 23, 2021 12:47 PM (8m1jA)
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The GOP is shit. There is no hope for us even if they win elections.
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo
And the best way to ensure that they go is not to vote, right?
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo
And the best way to ensure that they go is not to vote, right?
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:48 PM (ZsR3z)
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A sub-chapter of this is the mostly silly idea that CA elections would turn out differently without fraud. Prior to the ridiculously outrageous idea of ballot harvesting, CA elections reflected the ignorance and practical stupidity - and self-dealing - of an electorate that marinates in the cartoon propaganda of the "press" and is now decades into corrupted "education".
Look at the issues, look at ballot propositions, from before harvesting. Steady downward line into idiocy, on every issue. Also, "discouraged" voters is a factor in many areas, as I think research has confirmed (and I know from real life). More "conservative" voters who just gave up a while ago.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 12:44 PM (OTzUX)
Orange County. Red districts in California can no longer reliably send their preferred representatives to congress.
Lots of blue states do have plenty of red districts, if the fraud gets to CA levels that means a permanent loss of seats in the House.
Look at the issues, look at ballot propositions, from before harvesting. Steady downward line into idiocy, on every issue. Also, "discouraged" voters is a factor in many areas, as I think research has confirmed (and I know from real life). More "conservative" voters who just gave up a while ago.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 12:44 PM (OTzUX)
Orange County. Red districts in California can no longer reliably send their preferred representatives to congress.
Lots of blue states do have plenty of red districts, if the fraud gets to CA levels that means a permanent loss of seats in the House.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:48 PM (z5Vrg)
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Hershel Walker is a white supremacist Nazi Uncle Tom. Probably.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 12:48 PM (Pw26M)
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They won't be able to get away with what they did in '20
I cannot see the logic behind this assertion. What exactly did they suffer from or pay for the steal? They were as blatant as possible and obviously stole the election so badly that even today most people believe the election was stolen. We're just not allowed to talk about it.
Why in the hell would they not do so again, to retain the power and money they so clearly lust for?
I cannot see the logic behind this assertion. What exactly did they suffer from or pay for the steal? They were as blatant as possible and obviously stole the election so badly that even today most people believe the election was stolen. We're just not allowed to talk about it.
Why in the hell would they not do so again, to retain the power and money they so clearly lust for?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 12:48 PM (KZzsI)
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"After stealing the election, they really thought that the policies they were going enact would result in economic improvement, and that the world would settle down and love us. "
No they didn't.
Dude, you don't embark on massive spending sprees expanding your existing secret police and creating new ones, purge the shit out of the military, and try to ram through a financial/transportation panopticon because you think everything is going to be puppy dogs and rainbows. Not to mention the deliberate snarling of port traffic, pipeline shutdowns, and drilling bans. Or throwing the border open and shipping COVID+ third worlders into red states while trying to shut down American-owned small businesses. Or pushing a vax they've exempted themselves from, knowing that it's killing more and more people.
The people actually calling the shots have a plan, and that plan is deliberate economic destruction to help cement a totalitarian state, followed by a slow genocide. The NeverTrump frauds thought Biden in office would lead to them lining their pockets. It did.
Nothing is more important right now than preparing to either resist or GTFO.
No they didn't.
Dude, you don't embark on massive spending sprees expanding your existing secret police and creating new ones, purge the shit out of the military, and try to ram through a financial/transportation panopticon because you think everything is going to be puppy dogs and rainbows. Not to mention the deliberate snarling of port traffic, pipeline shutdowns, and drilling bans. Or throwing the border open and shipping COVID+ third worlders into red states while trying to shut down American-owned small businesses. Or pushing a vax they've exempted themselves from, knowing that it's killing more and more people.
The people actually calling the shots have a plan, and that plan is deliberate economic destruction to help cement a totalitarian state, followed by a slow genocide. The NeverTrump frauds thought Biden in office would lead to them lining their pockets. It did.
Nothing is more important right now than preparing to either resist or GTFO.
Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 23, 2021 12:48 PM (GvumD)
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And, in line with my "but the mid-terms!" snark, the policy consequences of a huge/big/medium GOP congressional win are of course all that matters.
It's already been noted above - biggest value will be negative, as a block to the most insane vandalism. Which is not nothing.
But some of the most important damage to the country from Trump's removal is opportunity cost, and I don't see any areas in which that will be mitigated significantly. The best/most valuable Trump policies - as attenuated as their impact was by a useless/de facto opposition GOP and collapsed corrupted institutions - were not based on legislative action. Their reversal similarly will continue regardless of who "controls" Congress.
It's already been noted above - biggest value will be negative, as a block to the most insane vandalism. Which is not nothing.
But some of the most important damage to the country from Trump's removal is opportunity cost, and I don't see any areas in which that will be mitigated significantly. The best/most valuable Trump policies - as attenuated as their impact was by a useless/de facto opposition GOP and collapsed corrupted institutions - were not based on legislative action. Their reversal similarly will continue regardless of who "controls" Congress.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (OTzUX)
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"We are ruled by idiots."
Rashida Tlaib is -- post Waukesha -- still hopeful in her ten-year plan to empty all prisons.
Empty. Prisons.
I would assume to a neighborhood elsewhere from her personal residence.
Rashida Tlaib is -- post Waukesha -- still hopeful in her ten-year plan to empty all prisons.
Empty. Prisons.
I would assume to a neighborhood elsewhere from her personal residence.
Posted by: red speck at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (gS3OW)
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Reading Molly's Rigged is a awakening on how bad our voting system is
Posted by: Skip's Phone
I worked on five different state voting systems in the early to mid 2000'.
You have no idea.
The predominate party in charge has no bearing on how honest and accurate any vote is. It is shit from the get go.
Posted by: Skip's Phone
I worked on five different state voting systems in the early to mid 2000'.
You have no idea.
The predominate party in charge has no bearing on how honest and accurate any vote is. It is shit from the get go.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (jZSOU)
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197 In Georgia I believe Trump has endorsed Herschel Walker who is leading the Republican candidates and is running against Raphael Warnock.
I pray Herschel wins.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (NpAcC)
I think Herschel is an easy win for the same reason I always said that Tommy Tuberville was going to be an easy win in Alabama.
I pray Herschel wins.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (NpAcC)
I think Herschel is an easy win for the same reason I always said that Tommy Tuberville was going to be an easy win in Alabama.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (trdmm)
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is rittenhouse getting any assistance from blm?
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (K3ZCc)
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Dave:
I disagree wholeheartedly on your Gerrymandering take. Look at Ohio for example. It has 16 seats. In 2020, 12 of those 16, the winner got over 60% of the vote. There were only 2 seats where the winner won by less than 10%.
And this is in the ultimate swing state in a very close national election. And still 12/16 seats weren't even competitive and the other 4 were pretty much a done deal long before any ballots were cast.
Then you look at Alabama that has 7 seats. Every single one of those was won by 15% or more.
Very few seats are competitive.
I disagree wholeheartedly on your Gerrymandering take. Look at Ohio for example. It has 16 seats. In 2020, 12 of those 16, the winner got over 60% of the vote. There were only 2 seats where the winner won by less than 10%.
And this is in the ultimate swing state in a very close national election. And still 12/16 seats weren't even competitive and the other 4 were pretty much a done deal long before any ballots were cast.
Then you look at Alabama that has 7 seats. Every single one of those was won by 15% or more.
Very few seats are competitive.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (OalnH)
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Martyr Made at_martyrmade
Conservatives are eventually going to gave to grapple w/the fact that it's not communists, but hyper-capitalists who are pushing and enabling our destructive cultural revolution.
Google & Blackrock are not communist. Bill Gates is not a communist. The celebrities wouldn't know Marx if you brought him to breakfast. The foot soldiers of the revolution are people of relatively higher socioeconomic status who look w/undisguised contempt on those below them.
what did capitalism mean by this?
Capitalism and communism BOTH reduce human beings to a labor commodity, to cogs in an economic machine whose value is measured in terms of work and consumption.
ThreadReaderApp THREAD: https://bit.ly/3r4yKV5
Conservatives are eventually going to gave to grapple w/the fact that it's not communists, but hyper-capitalists who are pushing and enabling our destructive cultural revolution.
Google & Blackrock are not communist. Bill Gates is not a communist. The celebrities wouldn't know Marx if you brought him to breakfast. The foot soldiers of the revolution are people of relatively higher socioeconomic status who look w/undisguised contempt on those below them.
what did capitalism mean by this?
Capitalism and communism BOTH reduce human beings to a labor commodity, to cogs in an economic machine whose value is measured in terms of work and consumption.
ThreadReaderApp THREAD: https://bit.ly/3r4yKV5
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (Do5/p)
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CCI MiniMags are in stock, even!
Yes yes. Thanks for the 411.
I just ordered 500 of Wolf Poly in 5.56 for $170 and free shipping. Should be here tomorrow.
Yes yes. Thanks for the 411.
I just ordered 500 of Wolf Poly in 5.56 for $170 and free shipping. Should be here tomorrow.
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (DiVy8)
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2) A Repub congress should *immediately* pass a law to discard all existing voter's rolls and require registration with proof of citizenship and photo ID. That would immediately remove the thousands of ghost voters from the rolls. Require that every poll state the number of votes case, verified by the clerk, Dem and Repub monitors at close voting: no more 'found ballots in the middle of the night'.
Posted by: Dyspeptic Curmudgeon at November 23, 2021 12:37 PM (Kc1Sm)
I think Joe Mannix had a similar idea, and I completely agree with it. Just like you need to renew a passport or a driver license, you need to actively renew your voting right. Purge the current rolls, let the new ones expire after a period of time - say, four years - and immediately build a clean and robust voter database.
Posted by: Dyspeptic Curmudgeon at November 23, 2021 12:37 PM (Kc1Sm)
I think Joe Mannix had a similar idea, and I completely agree with it. Just like you need to renew a passport or a driver license, you need to actively renew your voting right. Purge the current rolls, let the new ones expire after a period of time - say, four years - and immediately build a clean and robust voter database.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (mdjgu)
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Popping in with a prayer request for a man who is having surgery. for a heart transplant right now. His first name begins with W. If you are a praying person please pray for skill and wisdom for his surgical team, that things would go smoothly with a routine recovery. Also prayers for whatever family it was that made this heart available-for their strength and comfort after the death of their loved one. Thx so much
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 23, 2021 12:50 PM (poMoX)
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Democrats don't prioritize winning over all else. They prioritize making full use of their power no matter the electoral consequences, and then waiting until they have another shot at it. Republicans cower in perpetual fear of being criticized by the NY Times editorial page and do nothing. Democrats knew they were going to get hammered after passing Obamacare. They didn't care, they wanted to fundamentally remake healthcare. And they don't care that they are going down in 2022, they will just use the power for all its worth, and there is nothing the Republicans will do to repeal that when they are in power. It's a classic game of "heads I win, tails you lose."
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM (H/wdc)
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Sliding down a 50 foot razor blade into a pool of isopropyl alcohol and crushed glass >>> GOP control of congress
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM (flINI)
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Purge the current rolls, let the new ones expire after a period of time - say, four years - and immediately build a clean and robust voter database.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (mdjgu)
__
Yeah sure, go ahead and try that!
- Hawaiian Judge
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (mdjgu)
__
Yeah sure, go ahead and try that!
- Hawaiian Judge
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM (OalnH)
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They won't be able to get away with what they did in '20
I cannot see the logic behind this assertion. What exactly did they suffer from or pay for the steal?
Look at point #2. They were unable to secure a steal in VA because of new safeguards.
The goal here isn't to punish them for '20 (although that would certainly be nice), it's to prevent a recurrence.
I cannot see the logic behind this assertion. What exactly did they suffer from or pay for the steal?
Look at point #2. They were unable to secure a steal in VA because of new safeguards.
The goal here isn't to punish them for '20 (although that would certainly be nice), it's to prevent a recurrence.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM (ZsR3z)
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I imagine KC and StL in MO will still be ugly with fraud, but we rural folk are ready to vote. Now.
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM
I think rural people woke up post-election day 2020 and said, "They really got away with it." Meaning 'they' as the city folk. They can't help but see the cities decaying, their vote being stolen, and realize they gotta do something, no matter how inconvenient.
Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at November 23, 2021 12:32 PM
I think rural people woke up post-election day 2020 and said, "They really got away with it." Meaning 'they' as the city folk. They can't help but see the cities decaying, their vote being stolen, and realize they gotta do something, no matter how inconvenient.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM (dQvv7)
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@Christopher Taylor Re: Traffic Circles
Chris, I love traffic circles. They're amazing. I was introduced to them in New York. Although I admit, they were huge and in low traffic areas.
They've started putting them in my area and it's making what used to be pointlessly irritating and long traffic lights into relatively quick pass-throughs. Remember, I'm in Louisiana where every road is a motorcross race track. I thought it was going to be insane at first, but they do help.
The circles keep things flowing and make you feel like you are making actual progress and as Mythbusters pointed out, they are quicker.
Chris, I love traffic circles. They're amazing. I was introduced to them in New York. Although I admit, they were huge and in low traffic areas.
They've started putting them in my area and it's making what used to be pointlessly irritating and long traffic lights into relatively quick pass-throughs. Remember, I'm in Louisiana where every road is a motorcross race track. I thought it was going to be insane at first, but they do help.
The circles keep things flowing and make you feel like you are making actual progress and as Mythbusters pointed out, they are quicker.
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Rashida Tlaib is -- post Waukesha -- still hopeful in her ten-year plan to empty all prisons.
Empty. Prisons.
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The corollary principle is "no laws". Buy ammo.
Empty. Prisons.
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The corollary principle is "no laws". Buy ammo.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM (NBppC)
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Of course Fen!
Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2021 12:52 PM (jZSOU)
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Republicans cower in perpetual fear of being criticized by the NY Times editorial page and do nothing.
Is holding the media in absolute, utter contempt the number one desired quality for conservative candidates?
Is holding the media in absolute, utter contempt the number one desired quality for conservative candidates?
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 12:52 PM (cSyAR)
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"We are ruled by idiots."
AOC irate that trillion-dollar spending is taking so long, when Biden "could do it with the stroke of a pen." Apparently unaware of how the government functions or where money comes from, our most popular bartender cum BU Economics graduate cum political sensation cannot fathom the problem with her solution.
AOC irate that trillion-dollar spending is taking so long, when Biden "could do it with the stroke of a pen." Apparently unaware of how the government functions or where money comes from, our most popular bartender cum BU Economics graduate cum political sensation cannot fathom the problem with her solution.
Posted by: red speck at November 23, 2021 12:52 PM (gS3OW)
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...And Murkowski in Alaska is in serious trouble, even with the NSCC spending millions to help reelect her...
She's got a few primary challengers, yes? If so, the NSCC should be keeping their snouts out until the general.
Looking at the most recent poll I could easily find (Breitbart report in August) Kelly Tshibaka is behind the Snowblower by 9 points. She has the Trump endorsement.
Lisa needs to go down, preferably on an angry walrus.
She's got a few primary challengers, yes? If so, the NSCC should be keeping their snouts out until the general.
Looking at the most recent poll I could easily find (Breitbart report in August) Kelly Tshibaka is behind the Snowblower by 9 points. She has the Trump endorsement.
Lisa needs to go down, preferably on an angry walrus.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 23, 2021 12:52 PM (F0YaR)
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If they Leroy Jenkins straight into the midterms with 2x the fraud, do you know what will happen?
Nothing. Nothing will happen. At least not overtly. It still won't be time yet, unless the FIB can con someone into doing something stupid.
We have teenage girls and grandmas getting splatted all over the place in WI and people are still fucking asleep, and prefacing what should be serious conversations with "I'm not racist, but..." because they're afraid of offending someone, while the people they're afraid of offending are dancing around on twitter mocking the dead.
Nothing. Nothing will happen. At least not overtly. It still won't be time yet, unless the FIB can con someone into doing something stupid.
We have teenage girls and grandmas getting splatted all over the place in WI and people are still fucking asleep, and prefacing what should be serious conversations with "I'm not racist, but..." because they're afraid of offending someone, while the people they're afraid of offending are dancing around on twitter mocking the dead.
Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (GvumD)
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But Lin Wood says No, he set up the paperwork to create the fund for Kyle, so HE should get the entire $2 million and Kyle shouldn't get anything.
what a piece of shit he's turned out to be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (trdmm)
I'm trying to think hard of when he wasn't coming off as a piece of shit, other than a very, very brief period post election when he appeared to have a moral compass. But it didn't take long for him to make it about him, and go off into some sort of bizarre fantasy land. All of these people struck me as taking advantage of a crisis. I hope this guy gets his just desserts.
BTW, didn't Mike Lindell throw a bunch of money at Kyle's bail?
what a piece of shit he's turned out to be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (trdmm)
I'm trying to think hard of when he wasn't coming off as a piece of shit, other than a very, very brief period post election when he appeared to have a moral compass. But it didn't take long for him to make it about him, and go off into some sort of bizarre fantasy land. All of these people struck me as taking advantage of a crisis. I hope this guy gets his just desserts.
BTW, didn't Mike Lindell throw a bunch of money at Kyle's bail?
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (wAnMi)
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209 197 In Georgia I believe Trump has endorsed Herschel Walker who is leading the Republican candidates and is running against Raphael Warnock.
I pray Herschel wins.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (NpAcC)
I think Herschel is an easy win for the same reason I always said that Tommy Tuberville was going to be an easy win in Alabama.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (trdmm)
Herschel has some baggage that needs to be addressed. He can't skate on his beloved reputation to get him through this, because the MSM is going to do everything possible to highlight it. If he can be proactive in taking care of it, the electorate will move on and elect him. If not, we could be looking at another Sean Parnell PA situation without an adequate Plan B.
I pray Herschel wins.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (NpAcC)
I think Herschel is an easy win for the same reason I always said that Tommy Tuberville was going to be an easy win in Alabama.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (trdmm)
Herschel has some baggage that needs to be addressed. He can't skate on his beloved reputation to get him through this, because the MSM is going to do everything possible to highlight it. If he can be proactive in taking care of it, the electorate will move on and elect him. If not, we could be looking at another Sean Parnell PA situation without an adequate Plan B.
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I think rural people woke up post-election day 2020 and said, "They really got away with it." Meaning 'they' as the city folk. They can't help but see the cities decaying, their vote being stolen, and realize they gotta do something, no matter how inconvenient.
Posted by: T
Yeah, there is no crime outside cities
Posted by: T
Yeah, there is no crime outside cities
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (K3ZCc)
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Just like you need to renew a passport or a driver license, you need to actively renew your voting right. Purge the current rolls, let the new ones expire after a period of time - say, four years - and immediately build a clean and robust voter database.
The Dems inadvertantly shot themselves in the BUT-TOCKS by insisting on proofs of vaccination. If you can do that, you can get an ID for voting.
The Dems inadvertantly shot themselves in the BUT-TOCKS by insisting on proofs of vaccination. If you can do that, you can get an ID for voting.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (ZsR3z)
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Off topic I know but just got this via email from a friend. Probably been posted already, funny though.
Cross state lines mashup > https://tinyurl.com/ah4vbnzd
Cross state lines mashup > https://tinyurl.com/ah4vbnzd
Posted by: Javems at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (VDPPl)
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Under FDR the Democrats had a long run in the House, sometimes with 300 seats. If the GOPe is awarded 300 seats it could be enough to finally repeal ObamaCare.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Posted by: Mrs. Frank McCarthy-Luntz at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (NBppC)
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216 Democrats don't prioritize winning over all else. They prioritize making full use of their power no matter the electoral consequences, and then waiting until they have another shot at it. Republicans cower in perpetual fear of being criticized by the NY Times editorial page and do nothing. Democrats knew they were going to get hammered after passing Obamacare. They didn't care, they wanted to fundamentally remake healthcare. And they don't care that they are going down in 2022, they will just use the power for all its worth, and there is nothing the Republicans will do to repeal that when they are in power. It's a classic game of "heads I win, tails you lose."
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM (H/wdc)
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Exactly. When Dems win, they get their shit implemented. When Reps win, they're just a placeholder until Dems can win and get their shit implemented.
Biden is in the toilet bowl approval wise. Has that stopped the Dems from passing their BBB bill? Nope. Biden could be at 0% approval and it wouldn't matter. They are getting their shit through no matter what.
Meanwhile the useless GOP couldn't cut $10 from the PP budget because polls.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM (H/wdc)
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Exactly. When Dems win, they get their shit implemented. When Reps win, they're just a placeholder until Dems can win and get their shit implemented.
Biden is in the toilet bowl approval wise. Has that stopped the Dems from passing their BBB bill? Nope. Biden could be at 0% approval and it wouldn't matter. They are getting their shit through no matter what.
Meanwhile the useless GOP couldn't cut $10 from the PP budget because polls.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (OalnH)
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The foot soldiers of the revolution are people of relatively higher socioeconomic status who look w/undisguised contempt on those below them.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (Do5/p)
Communist movements normally look like this.
I don't know why people would expect communist movements to be dominated by proles. Proles aren't atheists, they aren't intellectuals, they don't go to college, they don't read Marx, they don't care about some sort of nonsensical "social justice".
The way people sort themselves in this overall conflict hasn't really changed in 100 years. The actors look the same and have the same positions.
Communism is a monopoly on the economics of a nation. A cartel of megacorps is guess what, the same thing. Google can't be considered pro-free market.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 23, 2021 12:49 PM (Do5/p)
Communist movements normally look like this.
I don't know why people would expect communist movements to be dominated by proles. Proles aren't atheists, they aren't intellectuals, they don't go to college, they don't read Marx, they don't care about some sort of nonsensical "social justice".
The way people sort themselves in this overall conflict hasn't really changed in 100 years. The actors look the same and have the same positions.
Communism is a monopoly on the economics of a nation. A cartel of megacorps is guess what, the same thing. Google can't be considered pro-free market.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:54 PM (z5Vrg)
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Previously, my voted equated to my implicit consent to be governed. Then they (both the junior and senior partners in the uniparty) cheated. Previously, the junior partners used to tell me we just had to "beat the margin of fraud." When they had total control, rather than addressing the fraud, they ignored it, then supported it to get rid of OMB. But I'm sure everything is different now, and I'm going to take another run at that football, Lucy.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 23, 2021 12:54 PM (McMSJ)
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Is holding the media in absolute, utter contempt the number one desired quality for conservative candidates?
It's a bare minimum requirement. Necessary but not sufficient.
It's a bare minimum requirement. Necessary but not sufficient.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 23, 2021 12:54 PM (H/wdc)
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BTW, didn't Mike Lindell throw a bunch of money at Kyle's bail?
Posted by: clutch cargo
So I read somewhere. Also, Ricky Schroeder.
Posted by: clutch cargo
So I read somewhere. Also, Ricky Schroeder.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 23, 2021 12:54 PM (jZSOU)
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In 2022, gas prices will be even higher, inflation will be crippling, food availability will limited and we will all be required to take more COVID boosters.
Democrats should lose, but Republicans will always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Democrats should lose, but Republicans will always find a way to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at November 23, 2021 12:54 PM (uia9V)
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233 Under FDR the Democrats had a long run in the House, sometimes with 300 seats. If the GOPe is awarded 300 seats it could be enough to finally repeal ObamaCare.
Maybe.
Posted by: Mrs. Frank McCarthy-Luntz at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (NBppC)
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We'd also need at least 75 seats in the senate.
- Mitch
Maybe.
Posted by: Mrs. Frank McCarthy-Luntz at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (NBppC)
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We'd also need at least 75 seats in the senate.
- Mitch
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:54 PM (OalnH)
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I read the Florida dems are busy tightening up the voting districts to eliminate a few R's and the R's are no where in sight. In Florida. WTF?
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You heard wrong. The Dem Party in Florida is all but extinct.
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You heard wrong. The Dem Party in Florida is all but extinct.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:54 PM (5p7BC)
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Apparently unaware of how the government functions or where money comes from, our most popular bartender cum BU Economics graduate cum political sensation cannot fathom the problem with her solution. Posted by: red speck at November 23, 2021 12:52 PM (gS3OW)
IIRC after she got elected she didn't know that the House passed laws but didn't administer them or what the three branches of government were.
IIRC after she got elected she didn't know that the House passed laws but didn't administer them or what the three branches of government were.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 12:55 PM (BMmaB)
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" Republicans cower in perpetual fear of being criticized by the NY Times editorial page and do nothing.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM (H/wdc)
They don't do nothing, they get paid. A lot. They're not craven, they're sellouts.
I have mentioned before that I come from a GOP pol family; I see the sausage factory from the inside. It's all graft.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM (H/wdc)
They don't do nothing, they get paid. A lot. They're not craven, they're sellouts.
I have mentioned before that I come from a GOP pol family; I see the sausage factory from the inside. It's all graft.
Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at November 23, 2021 12:55 PM (GvumD)
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"Rashida Tlaib is -- post Waukesha -- still hopeful in her ten-year plan to empty all prisons."
We've got "criminal justice reformers" in GOP too. Trump signed First Step Act. RNC featured a "reformed" cocaine kingpin, and included at least two prayers for Jacob Swisscheese Blake. Too many people weepy for violent criminals on all sides.
We've got "criminal justice reformers" in GOP too. Trump signed First Step Act. RNC featured a "reformed" cocaine kingpin, and included at least two prayers for Jacob Swisscheese Blake. Too many people weepy for violent criminals on all sides.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at November 23, 2021 12:55 PM (qpX6U)
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241 I read the Florida dems are busy tightening up the voting districts to eliminate a few R's and the R's are no where in sight. In Florida. WTF?
Posted by: Capital Eff
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You heard wrong. The Dem Party in Florida is all but extinct.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:54 PM (5p7BC)
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Florida goes from swing state to solid red state with this one easy trick.
Posted by: Capital Eff
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You heard wrong. The Dem Party in Florida is all but extinct.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 12:54 PM (5p7BC)
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Florida goes from swing state to solid red state with this one easy trick.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:55 PM (3EWns)
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Red Turban I think those OC districts found that GOP use (abuse? probably not) of the harvesting outrage mostly returned outcomes to status quo ante - and the recall numbers there were the same as the general election.
But I was talking more broadly. Here one sees rather preposterous comments that CA would be significantly different without fraud. No. The trends all track - from how counter supervisor boards have changed, to outcomes of ballot propositions, and on and on. There are no anomalous outcomes, they all track. In one direction.
But I was talking more broadly. Here one sees rather preposterous comments that CA would be significantly different without fraud. No. The trends all track - from how counter supervisor boards have changed, to outcomes of ballot propositions, and on and on. There are no anomalous outcomes, they all track. In one direction.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 12:55 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Erik in Texas at November 23, 2021 12:55 PM (180Hg)
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one small problem the gop are losers who prefer to lose even in winning they lose so moot point
Posted by: MikeN at November 23, 2021 12:56 PM (hFHjk)
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Beat Ossoff!
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 23, 2021 12:56 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: Dupont Circle, Washinton D.C. at November 23, 2021 12:56 PM (w9Wax)
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"after stealing the election, they really thought that the policies they were going enact would result in economic improvement".
I used to think that both political parties once thought this but not now.
I believe the Democrats want chaos and division. They want the class war that they are sowing. They want economic strife. The Republicans are limp and only care about their phone baloney jobs.
I used to think that both political parties once thought this but not now.
I believe the Democrats want chaos and division. They want the class war that they are sowing. They want economic strife. The Republicans are limp and only care about their phone baloney jobs.
Posted by: Dansgirls at November 23, 2021 12:56 PM (BcJdL)
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"That would require courage."
What makes the Hottentots so Hot? Whatta they got that I ain't got?
What makes the Hottentots so Hot? Whatta they got that I ain't got?
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 23, 2021 12:56 PM (B0mGw)
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Hey everybody. Thanks Dave.
This is all good news for our side... but the freakin' election is still 11 months away. Plenty of time for the GOPe to shoot itself in both feet, repeatedly, and they always do.
This is all good news for our side... but the freakin' election is still 11 months away. Plenty of time for the GOPe to shoot itself in both feet, repeatedly, and they always do.
Posted by: qdpsteve at November 23, 2021 12:56 PM (L2ZTs)
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Yeah, there is no crime outside cities
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (K3ZCc)
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You're right. The per capita murder rate in rural Wyoming is at least 8X that of DC, Chicago or Atlanta.
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (K3ZCc)
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You're right. The per capita murder rate in rural Wyoming is at least 8X that of DC, Chicago or Atlanta.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:57 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 12:57 PM (v0R5T)
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You heard wrong. The Dem Party in Florida is all but extinct.
I have another fake news source then. Thanks.
I have another fake news source then. Thanks.
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 23, 2021 12:57 PM (DiVy8)
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With 81M votes for Biden how in the hell did Nanzi not see big gains in her House? This doesn't make sense.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 23, 2021 12:57 PM (Hudry)
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Herschel Walker won a Heisman Trophy for Georgia. I think he's going to cruise to victory unless he raped a white woman or a boy.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 23, 2021 12:57 PM (yQpMk)
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Capitalist, communist, cheese, potatoes. It doesn't matter.
People want power and control for whatever fucking reason, the thrill of it, narcissism, money. Our government is getting big enough to attract all of those flies who want a piece of the action.
People want power and control for whatever fucking reason, the thrill of it, narcissism, money. Our government is getting big enough to attract all of those flies who want a piece of the action.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 12:57 PM (Pw26M)
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244 "Rashida Tlaib is -- post Waukesha -- still hopeful in her ten-year plan to empty all prisons."
We've got "criminal justice reformers" in GOP too. Trump signed First Step Act. RNC featured a "reformed" cocaine kingpin, and included at least two prayers for Jacob Swisscheese Blake. Too many people weepy for violent criminals on all sides.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at November 23, 2021 12:55 PM (qpX6U)
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It's perfectly reasonable to think that prosecutors at all levels are out of control maniacs who abuse their power to achieve the plea bargain numbers on people who aren't really a threat to others and that people with violent criminal histories should still be in jail.
There are deep flaws in our legal system, and yes they do mostly affect black people. It's also mostly a Democratic problem since DAs in the inner cities are very, very rarely Republicans.
We've got "criminal justice reformers" in GOP too. Trump signed First Step Act. RNC featured a "reformed" cocaine kingpin, and included at least two prayers for Jacob Swisscheese Blake. Too many people weepy for violent criminals on all sides.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at November 23, 2021 12:55 PM (qpX6U)
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It's perfectly reasonable to think that prosecutors at all levels are out of control maniacs who abuse their power to achieve the plea bargain numbers on people who aren't really a threat to others and that people with violent criminal histories should still be in jail.
There are deep flaws in our legal system, and yes they do mostly affect black people. It's also mostly a Democratic problem since DAs in the inner cities are very, very rarely Republicans.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 12:57 PM (3EWns)
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The Dems inadvertantly shot themselves in the BUT-TOCKS by insisting on proofs of vaccination. If you can do that, you can get an ID for voting. Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:53 PM (ZsR3z)
Except they don't do logic.
Except they don't do logic.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 12:57 PM (BMmaB)
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I think Joe Mannix had a similar idea, and I completely agree with it. Just like you need to renew a passport or a driver license, you need to actively renew your voting right.
Will I have to take an eye test?
I think Joe Mannix had a similar idea, and I completely agree with it. Just like you need to renew a passport or a driver license, you need to actively renew your voting right.
Will I have to take an eye test?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 23, 2021 12:58 PM (63Dwl)
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Communism is a movement of the lower aristocracy to centralize all power in their dumbass hands. The two prominent factions to emerge are pretty consistently social deviants and managerial technocrats.
Oh and they're all doing it for the sake of other people. Proles or black people or something.
Oh and they're all doing it for the sake of other people. Proles or black people or something.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 12:58 PM (z5Vrg)
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THEN WHO WAS PHONE BALONEY?
Posted by: creepypasta at November 23, 2021 12:58 PM (h5TKJ)
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Herschel has some baggage that needs to be addressed. He can't skate on his beloved reputation to get him through this, because the MSM is going to do everything possible to highlight it."
Problem for the MSM in pushing this - almost every black male voter in Georgia is going to hear those allegations and say "hey this guy has had all the same troubles as me, I like him!"
do they think some pasty faced white soy boy is going to have any appeal over that?
Problem for the MSM in pushing this - almost every black male voter in Georgia is going to hear those allegations and say "hey this guy has had all the same troubles as me, I like him!"
do they think some pasty faced white soy boy is going to have any appeal over that?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:58 PM (trdmm)
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You're right. The per capita murder rate in rural Wyoming is at least 8X that of DC, Chicago or Atlanta.
Posted by: J
now do meth
Posted by: J
now do meth
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:58 PM (K3ZCc)
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Tesla has about 70,000 employees.
Apple has around 154,000 globally.
Biden wants our IRS to have 170,000 employees.
An increase of 87,000 supposedly to monitor the 614 billionaires in America.
Apple has around 154,000 globally.
Biden wants our IRS to have 170,000 employees.
An increase of 87,000 supposedly to monitor the 614 billionaires in America.
Posted by: rhennigantx at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (yrol0)
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And Murkowski in Alaska is in serious trouble, even with the NSCC spending millions to help reelect her...
Looking at the most recent poll I could easily find (Breitbart report in August) Kelly Tshibaka is behind the Snowblower by 9 points. She has the Trump endorsement.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 23, 2021 12:52 PM (F0YaR)
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Where is this new information that Lisa Murkowski is in trouble? I really want Kelly to win, but like you the last I heard she was behind.
Looking at the most recent poll I could easily find (Breitbart report in August) Kelly Tshibaka is behind the Snowblower by 9 points. She has the Trump endorsement.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 23, 2021 12:52 PM (F0YaR)
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Where is this new information that Lisa Murkowski is in trouble? I really want Kelly to win, but like you the last I heard she was behind.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (NpAcC)
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258 Herschel Walker won a Heisman Trophy for Georgia. I think he's going to cruise to victory unless he raped a white woman or a boy.
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As a black man raping a white girl or a boy would give him a slam dunk on the Dem Ticket.
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As a black man raping a white girl or a boy would give him a slam dunk on the Dem Ticket.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (Hudry)
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A Traffic circle within a traffic circle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OGvj7GZSIo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OGvj7GZSIo
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (OalnH)
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I know some of you are not 29 enough to remember this, but the deal to get Motor Voter passed in the 1990s was that the voter roles would be purged on a routine basis.
Needless to say, those parts of Motor Voter were immediately litigated to death.
Needless to say, those parts of Motor Voter were immediately litigated to death.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (mf5HN)
Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (53oGX)
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"But Lin Wood says No, he set up the paperwork to create the fund for Kyle, so HE should get the entire $2 million and Kyle shouldn't get anything."
After collecting settlements from all the major news networks, $2 million will be mere chump change to Kyle.
After collecting settlements from all the major news networks, $2 million will be mere chump change to Kyle.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 01:00 PM (mdjgu)
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now do meth
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:58 PM (K3ZCc)
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Good think there are no drugs in the cities, lol.
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 12:58 PM (K3ZCc)
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Good think there are no drugs in the cities, lol.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:01 PM (OalnH)
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It occurs to me that Bezos (a little, bald dick-rocket shell of a man) $100M to the Obamas could/might be a down payment on his entry into the VP-stakes. After all, the GOP had their billionaire President... why not the Socialist-Democrats? Think about it. He's likely very pliable as he doesn't really "know" politics but outside of the conservative circles he's loved. And by loved I mean by the GOP.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 23, 2021 01:01 PM (BFigT)
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If towering imbecile Lebron James runs for office, which I suspect he plans to do, where would he run?
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 01:01 PM (cSyAR)
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if herschel needs some black cred he should remind of what he did to the vikings when he played for the coowboys and then to the vikings when he was a vikings
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Dem Party in Texas is pretty much extinct, too. Last nail in the coffin is that Hispanic state house member switching to the GOP since "that's where his (all hispanic) district is going."
This is why Beto can walk in and get the Dem nomination to run against Abbott, even though he's guaranteed to lose. No one else even wants to run.
This is why Beto can walk in and get the Dem nomination to run against Abbott, even though he's guaranteed to lose. No one else even wants to run.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 01:02 PM (trdmm)
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Dave to see any actual change (that is, not letters after the names of people elected, but actual change) the holocaust in the GOP would have to be, well, a holocaust. Which I don't see happening.
After the disastrous and shameful performance of the GOP for 4 years of Trump, after the rub-your-eyes-am-I-really-seeing-this of 2020, the first legislative action is ..... for the GOP to enable passage of a disastrous and stupid "infrastructure" bill. With removal of caps on H-1Bs - a true uni-party objective for years, finally achieved!
THIS was the first material action of the GOP, esp. the Senate, after the disastrous prior year and cycle.
The primarying of GOP incumbents or usurpation of de facto seat-warming machine-pol GOP new candidates is really all that matters. It's 90% of the game.
After the disastrous and shameful performance of the GOP for 4 years of Trump, after the rub-your-eyes-am-I-really-seeing-this of 2020, the first legislative action is ..... for the GOP to enable passage of a disastrous and stupid "infrastructure" bill. With removal of caps on H-1Bs - a true uni-party objective for years, finally achieved!
THIS was the first material action of the GOP, esp. the Senate, after the disastrous prior year and cycle.
The primarying of GOP incumbents or usurpation of de facto seat-warming machine-pol GOP new candidates is really all that matters. It's 90% of the game.
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You heard wrong. The Dem Party in Florida is all but extinct. I have another fake news source then. Thanks. Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 23, 2021 12:57 PM (DiVy
I think the Florida Ag Commissioner is a very partisan Democrat, isn't she? I don't know why, but she's had a high profile nationally.
I think the Florida Ag Commissioner is a very partisan Democrat, isn't she? I don't know why, but she's had a high profile nationally.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 01:02 PM (BMmaB)
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"If towering imbecile Lebron James runs for office, which I suspect he plans to do, where would he run?"
Guangzhou.
Guangzhou.
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Do we get to throw Nancy into the Gulag without right to counsel? Imma thinking 8 or 9 months of solitary confinement may heal whatever the fuck is wrong with her.
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280 I think the Florida Ag Commissioner is a very partisan Democrat, isn't she? I don't know why, but she's had a high profile nationally.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 01:02 PM (BMmaB)
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Because the media is manufacturing her appeal.
It worked for Buttigieg in the Democratic primary.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 01:02 PM (BMmaB)
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Because the media is manufacturing her appeal.
It worked for Buttigieg in the Democratic primary.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 01:02 PM (3EWns)
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 01:02 PM (K3ZCc)
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270 A Traffic circle within a traffic circle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OGvj7GZSIo
"There has been only one fatal accident." Well, duh! Nobody's going faster than 5mph.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OGvj7GZSIo
"There has been only one fatal accident." Well, duh! Nobody's going faster than 5mph.
Posted by: red speck at November 23, 2021 01:03 PM (gS3OW)
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A 50 year old woman has just come forward with her middle school yearbook. Inscribed in it is:
Hey baby, I had a great time having sex in your ass, Love Herschel Walker the hall of fame football player, June 4, 1983, 2:45pm.
Hey baby, I had a great time having sex in your ass, Love Herschel Walker the hall of fame football player, June 4, 1983, 2:45pm.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:03 PM (Pw26M)
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271 I know some of you are not 29 enough to remember this, but the deal to get Motor Voter passed in the 1990s was that the voter roles would be purged on a routine basis.
Needless to say, those parts of Motor Voter were immediately litigated to death.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (mf5HN)
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It was clear when first proposed in California (while I still lived there) that its ulterior motive was to register illegal aliens to vote.
Needless to say, those parts of Motor Voter were immediately litigated to death.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (mf5HN)
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It was clear when first proposed in California (while I still lived there) that its ulterior motive was to register illegal aliens to vote.
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! (Non Compos Anus) at November 23, 2021 01:03 PM (eb05q)
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We have entered the era of abnormal politics so the old trench warfare approach to political analysis is probably not appropriate. Using the past to extrapolate what will happen in the future works until it doesn't. There is always the possibility of some massive realignment if public distaste blames a lot on the party in power. There is also the possibility of some sort of unrest that makes political action outside of elections dictate the terms. Past predicts the future is also discounting that some sort of massive policy or natural catastrophes will occur before voting begins.
Wake me up next year about June 2022 or so and we will have a better idea of what might occur in Nov 2022. My crystal ball is out on a ship waiting to harbor until then. Supply chain issues, you know.
Wake me up next year about June 2022 or so and we will have a better idea of what might occur in Nov 2022. My crystal ball is out on a ship waiting to harbor until then. Supply chain issues, you know.
Posted by: whig at November 23, 2021 01:03 PM (9hXN1)
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271 I know some of you are not 29 enough to remember this, but the deal to get Motor Voter passed in the 1990s was that the voter roles would be purged on a routine basis.
Needless to say, those parts of Motor Voter were immediately litigated to death.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (mf5HN)
AtC, I don't remember that at all - thanks for bringing that up. Grrrr.
This reminds me of the 'deal' Reagan had with Tip O'Neill regarding the last amnesty deal. Our side gets ripped off all the time.
Grrr.
Needless to say, those parts of Motor Voter were immediately litigated to death.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (mf5HN)
AtC, I don't remember that at all - thanks for bringing that up. Grrrr.
This reminds me of the 'deal' Reagan had with Tip O'Neill regarding the last amnesty deal. Our side gets ripped off all the time.
Grrr.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 01:03 PM (mdjgu)
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The problem with polls is that the GOP guy is "generic republican." Of course that guy is going to do well, because he has no history or baggage.
Faced with the clowns and crooks in the current GOP, I think even in a fair election they will have an uphill battle.
Faced with the clowns and crooks in the current GOP, I think even in a fair election they will have an uphill battle.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 23, 2021 01:03 PM (p+1gI)
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It occurs to me that Bezos (a little, bald dick-rocket shell of a man) $100M to the Obamas could/might be a down payment on his entry into the VP-stakes. After all, the GOP had their billionaire President... why not the Socialist-Democrats? Think about it. He's likely very pliable as he doesn't really "know" politics but outside of the conservative circles he's loved. And by loved I mean by the GOP. Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 23, 2021 01:01 PM (BFigT)
Owning the Washington Post doesn't hurt.
Owning the Washington Post doesn't hurt.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 01:03 PM (BMmaB)
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This is why Beto can walk in and get the Dem nomination to run against Abbott, even though he's guaranteed to lose. No one else even wants to run.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 01:02 PM (trdmm)
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All right all right aaaaaallll right. I'm running.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 01:02 PM (trdmm)
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All right all right aaaaaallll right. I'm running.
Posted by: Wooderson at November 23, 2021 01:04 PM (OalnH)
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At the last minute the number of black neonates sacrificed by the Democratic party reached critical mass, and Yog Sothoth sent nameless minions to Florida by the freshwater mineral springs portals, who proceeded to eat all of the Republican counties, ensuring a permanent democratic electoral triumph...
At the last minute the number of black neonates sacrificed by the Democratic party reached critical mass, and Yog Sothoth sent nameless minions to Florida by the freshwater mineral springs portals, who proceeded to eat all of the Republican counties, ensuring a permanent democratic electoral triumph...
Posted by: Kwai Chang Quim at November 23, 2021 01:04 PM (xo7B8)
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I'll admit the Murkowski comment wasn't well sourced. Last I heard she was behind, but that was a long time ago.
I should have left that one out, I haven't paid attention to Alaska like I have other races.
I should have left that one out, I haven't paid attention to Alaska like I have other races.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 01:04 PM (5p7BC)
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197 as a former Eagle fan I approve this message
Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 23, 2021 01:04 PM (RxZ8d)
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A Traffic circle within a traffic circle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OGvj7GZSIo
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (OalnH)
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I think they have one of those in Tijuana.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OGvj7GZSIo
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 12:59 PM (OalnH)
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I think they have one of those in Tijuana.
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 01:04 PM (v0R5T)
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they are for and desired by fags.
should someone who washes watermelons in the dishwasher be calling anybody else a fag?
should someone who washes watermelons in the dishwasher be calling anybody else a fag?
Posted by: choogle at November 23, 2021 01:04 PM (MB0hg)
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This reminds me of the 'deal' Reagan had with Tip O'Neill regarding the last amnesty deal. Our side gets ripped off all the time.
Grrr.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 01:03 PM (mdjgu)
The grand bargain on immigration will be instant amnesty with a wall or fence or whatever to built in 2037. And the useless GOP will sign on for it of course.
This reminds me of the 'deal' Reagan had with Tip O'Neill regarding the last amnesty deal. Our side gets ripped off all the time.
Grrr.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 01:03 PM (mdjgu)
The grand bargain on immigration will be instant amnesty with a wall or fence or whatever to built in 2037. And the useless GOP will sign on for it of course.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:05 PM (OalnH)
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271 ...the deal to get Motor Voter passed in the 1990s was that the voter roles would be purged on a routine basis.
Needless to say, those parts of Motor Voter were immediately litigated to death.
So shocked that the dems reneged on the agreed-upon safeguards after passage of their shit bill. First and last time that ever happened, right?
Needless to say, those parts of Motor Voter were immediately litigated to death.
So shocked that the dems reneged on the agreed-upon safeguards after passage of their shit bill. First and last time that ever happened, right?
Posted by: red speck at November 23, 2021 01:05 PM (gS3OW)
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The coming elections will be the last step before the cartridge box. Given the course of current events this is inevitable, I'm afraid.
It's also time for us to acknowledge that fulfilling our oath to protect and defend is finally here. Once begun, it CANNOT be allowed to fail.
It's also time for us to acknowledge that fulfilling our oath to protect and defend is finally here. Once begun, it CANNOT be allowed to fail.
Posted by: irongrampa at November 23, 2021 01:05 PM (KATBx)
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Good thing we have dozens of Republicans that will help their friends across the aisle in the meantime.
Posted by: ... at November 23, 2021 01:05 PM (ZHNFc)
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Unfortunately, I can't get too excited with this news, knowing it won't result in serious change...just more failure theater. It will be nice to see the continued march towards a more powerful and tyrannical federal government slowed temporarily, I guess.
Posted by: Grimmy at November 23, 2021 01:05 PM (JCZqz)
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"There are deep flaws in our legal system, and yes they do mostly affect black people."
You have posting privileges here. Do a full post on that assertion. I want you to try to convince me. I will read and consider what you write without arguing back.
You have posting privileges here. Do a full post on that assertion. I want you to try to convince me. I will read and consider what you write without arguing back.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (qpX6U)
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Dave of course not your fault but it's darkly amusing that one can accurately refer to the "election season" *a full year before the election*.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (OTzUX)
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should someone who washes watermelons in the dishwasher be calling anybody else a fag?
Posted by: cho
not everybody enjoys anal explosions from food cntaminates as much as you
Posted by: cho
not everybody enjoys anal explosions from food cntaminates as much as you
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (K3ZCc)
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Prayers up for W, Fenelon, and his family too.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (a4EWo)
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A black Republican doesn't guarantee success. See Larry Elder as Exhibit A.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (OalnH)
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Look at point #2. They were unable to secure a steal in VA because of new safeguards.
The goal here isn't to punish them for '20 (although that would certainly be nice), it's to prevent a recurrence.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM
How were those safeguards put in place in VA? Do they have a conservative GOP state legislature that put those policies in place? Is it something that can be done in the 5-6 states that stole the election in 2020? Do those 5-6 states also have conservative legislatures which can put those same safeguards in place in their states?
Michigan is one of the states. I think we have a GOP-majority legislature, but not sure if it is conservative-majority. I'll have to look into whether anyone here in Michigan is leading the effort to get these safeguards in place. I think Matt Maddock will be a good place to start.
The goal here isn't to punish them for '20 (although that would certainly be nice), it's to prevent a recurrence.
Posted by: pep at November 23, 2021 12:51 PM
How were those safeguards put in place in VA? Do they have a conservative GOP state legislature that put those policies in place? Is it something that can be done in the 5-6 states that stole the election in 2020? Do those 5-6 states also have conservative legislatures which can put those same safeguards in place in their states?
Michigan is one of the states. I think we have a GOP-majority legislature, but not sure if it is conservative-majority. I'll have to look into whether anyone here in Michigan is leading the effort to get these safeguards in place. I think Matt Maddock will be a good place to start.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (Do5/p)
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What position is Matthew Dowd running for again, or has he already lost?
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (cSyAR)
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The coming elections will be the last step before the cartridge box. Given the course of current events this is inevitable, I'm afraid. It's also time for us to acknowledge that fulfilling our oath to protect and defend is finally here. Once begun, it CANNOT be allowed to fail. Posted by: irongrampa at November 23, 2021 01:05 PM (KATBx)
There will be at least one international crisis and probably at least one fiscal crisis before the Biden-Harris Administration is through.
There will be at least one international crisis and probably at least one fiscal crisis before the Biden-Harris Administration is through.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 01:07 PM (BMmaB)
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Polls are crap. Doesn't mean they are wrong, just means they are crap, little better than random guesses. Drunk monkeys throwing darts would be about as accurate.
No offense to drunk monkeys intended.
Seriously, though, pollsters have a big problem with getting representative samples, so they tweak and weight the sample they do get, to try to make it less crappy. And that's before the outright partisan slant is applied to some published polls.
No offense to drunk monkeys intended.
Seriously, though, pollsters have a big problem with getting representative samples, so they tweak and weight the sample they do get, to try to make it less crappy. And that's before the outright partisan slant is applied to some published polls.
Posted by: a.moron at November 23, 2021 01:07 PM (tu3iY)
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Also, it's one thing to get the safeguards in place. It's another to make sure they are enforced.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (Do5/p)
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307 A black Republican doesn't guarantee success. See Larry Elder as Exhibit A.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (OalnH)
John James as Exhibit B.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (OalnH)
John James as Exhibit B.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (ej/kX)
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"There are deep flaws in our legal system, and yes they do mostly affect black people."
I could go for "there are systemic flaws in our criminal justice system, and they mostly affect those whose elective individual behavior puts them most in contact with that system".
In fact, I will harumph, declare my reformulation dispositive, and sit down.
I could go for "there are systemic flaws in our criminal justice system, and they mostly affect those whose elective individual behavior puts them most in contact with that system".
In fact, I will harumph, declare my reformulation dispositive, and sit down.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (OTzUX)
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The primarying of GOP incumbents or usurpation of de facto seat-warming machine-pol GOP new candidates is really all that matters. It's 90% of the game.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 01:02 PM (OTzUX)
I would point out that when Paul Ryan was speaker, there were at least 60 GOP Congressmen who were on Team Deep State. 40 or so conspired with Ryan to quit and throw the Congress to Pelosi, and a couple more have faded away. Now, as we know from the vote, there's only 13 traitors left in the House, and their numbers will be dropping precipitously next year.
Also Flake - McCain - Lamar Alexander - Pat Roberts - all gone. More are leaving. Things change slowly, but they do change.
(irony of ironies - liberal Dem Sinema is in practice more conservative than either Jeff Flake or John McCain ever were)
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 01:02 PM (OTzUX)
I would point out that when Paul Ryan was speaker, there were at least 60 GOP Congressmen who were on Team Deep State. 40 or so conspired with Ryan to quit and throw the Congress to Pelosi, and a couple more have faded away. Now, as we know from the vote, there's only 13 traitors left in the House, and their numbers will be dropping precipitously next year.
Also Flake - McCain - Lamar Alexander - Pat Roberts - all gone. More are leaving. Things change slowly, but they do change.
(irony of ironies - liberal Dem Sinema is in practice more conservative than either Jeff Flake or John McCain ever were)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (trdmm)
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What position is Matthew Dowd running for again, or has he already lost? Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (cSyAR)
Lieutenant Governor, although like Beto, his candidacy is mainly about the grift.
Lieutenant Governor, although like Beto, his candidacy is mainly about the grift.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (BMmaB)
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A Traffic circle within a traffic circle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OGvj7GZSIo
A 7 circle traffic circle. Cut to footage of people jammed up waiting to get into circles.
Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OGvj7GZSIo
A 7 circle traffic circle. Cut to footage of people jammed up waiting to get into circles.
Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (Pw26M)
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Look at point #2. They were unable to secure a steal in VA because of new safeguards.
Sure, but how many districts, let alone states, have passed any such safeguards? In any place where the Republican wasn't going to win anyway?
There are deep flaws in our legal system, and yes they do mostly affect black people.
I would argue with strongly compelling evidence ripped from the headlines, that it is rather that whites are mostly affected by modern flaws.
Sure, but how many districts, let alone states, have passed any such safeguards? In any place where the Republican wasn't going to win anyway?
There are deep flaws in our legal system, and yes they do mostly affect black people.
I would argue with strongly compelling evidence ripped from the headlines, that it is rather that whites are mostly affected by modern flaws.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (KZzsI)
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IIRC, the Wood fund reached the bail number, but Wood claimed that unless the donor specifically stated the donation was for Kyle, Wood deemed it a contribution to his "justice fund." That's why at the last minute ppl like Mike MyPillow and Ricky Schroeder filled in the needed funds. Unfortunately, Pierce, the first attorney, wrote the bail check, so his law firm is part of the bail fight, too.
Posted by: EveR at November 23, 2021 01:09 PM (MUpk6)
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McArthy and the turtle each need to have a tragic accident in order for a big GOP win to mean anything.
Posted by: My name is Jose Jimanez at November 23, 2021 01:09 PM (Fs5vw)
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I hope there is a Country left to save if we retake Congress
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I would argue with strongly compelling evidence ripped from the headlines, that it is rather that whites are mostly affected by modern flaws.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (KZzsI)
I think an argument could be made for intentional malfeasance on one side(against whites) and general neglect on the other(in areas where blacks mostly live).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (KZzsI)
I think an argument could be made for intentional malfeasance on one side(against whites) and general neglect on the other(in areas where blacks mostly live).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 01:10 PM (z5Vrg)
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the deal to get Motor Voter passed in the 1990s was that the voter roles would be purged on a routine basis.
The US Constitution literally requires the voter rolls be purged every federal election. It is illegal to not do so. Not that this matters to anyone in power.
The US Constitution literally requires the voter rolls be purged every federal election. It is illegal to not do so. Not that this matters to anyone in power.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:10 PM (KZzsI)
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309 What position is Matthew Dowd running for again, or has he already lost?
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (cSyAR)
I think he wants to run for Lt. Governor. I think it's mainly a grifting operation to line his pockets, since while he may be known in Washington DC circles, no Texas voters have any idea who he is.
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (cSyAR)
I think he wants to run for Lt. Governor. I think it's mainly a grifting operation to line his pockets, since while he may be known in Washington DC circles, no Texas voters have any idea who he is.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 01:10 PM (trdmm)
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Is holding the media in absolute, utter contempt the number one desired quality for conservative candidates?
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 12:52 PM (cSyAR)
It is for me. If you give those treasonous bastards any respect or fig leaf of legitimacy, then you can FOAD as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 12:52 PM (cSyAR)
It is for me. If you give those treasonous bastards any respect or fig leaf of legitimacy, then you can FOAD as far as I'm concerned.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (2JVJo)
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A black Republican doesn't guarantee success. See Larry Elder as Exhibit A.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM
Preach it, brother
A black Republican doesn't guarantee success. See Larry Elder as Exhibit A.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM
Preach it, brother
Posted by: John James, Perpetual Candidate at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (DUIap)
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The GOP in MI and PA, possibly also WI and GA, were absolutely - if only by inaction - a key part of the 2020 election debacle (process side, fraud, integrity).
As were the "courts".
That's the jet-black, radioactive lining inside the dark cloud that most people either ignore or comfort themselves by forgetting.
I wonder how many state legislators in those (or other) states, upon raising their hands and taking their oaths of office, even understood they had a potentially central role in presidential elections? Probably not a third of them.
As were the "courts".
That's the jet-black, radioactive lining inside the dark cloud that most people either ignore or comfort themselves by forgetting.
I wonder how many state legislators in those (or other) states, upon raising their hands and taking their oaths of office, even understood they had a potentially central role in presidential elections? Probably not a third of them.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (OTzUX)
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A 7 circle traffic circle. Cut to footage of people jammed up waiting to get into circles.
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It's chaos I tells ya. Bedlam. Pandemonium.
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It's chaos I tells ya. Bedlam. Pandemonium.
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320 McArthy and the turtle each need to have a tragic accident in order for a big GOP win to mean anything.
Posted by: My name is Jose Jimanez at November 23, 2021 01:09 PM (Fs5vw)
Won't help their replacements are also tools. It's cucks all the way down.
Posted by: My name is Jose Jimanez at November 23, 2021 01:09 PM (Fs5vw)
Won't help their replacements are also tools. It's cucks all the way down.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (NazZr)
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I'm all for that. I love roundabouts. I never understand why people have a seering hatred for them. It reduces traffic congestion significantly when it replaces a traditional intersection.
Is it just because it's European so it must be bad thinking?
We have a shit ton of them here in MD. I've concluded that they're a terrible idea that came from Communists. Waiting time at them is often worse than for conventional lights.
Is it just because it's European so it must be bad thinking?
We have a shit ton of them here in MD. I've concluded that they're a terrible idea that came from Communists. Waiting time at them is often worse than for conventional lights.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (6XLoz)
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Somewhere down the road I expect the DNC to produce a book about the 2020 election in a similar vein to OJ Simpson, "If We Did It."
Somewhere down the road I expect the DNC to produce a book about the 2020 election in a similar vein to OJ Simpson, "If We Did It."
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (dQvv7)
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Voting is nothing more than a shell game.
Posted by: Hold My Montrachet, I'm Off To Make Some Truffled Porcini Risotto at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (juH8z)
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Hershel Walker is responsible for 3 Super Bowl Championships for the Cowboys in the 90's.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (flINI)
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IIRC, the Wood fund reached the bail number, but Wood claimed that unless the donor specifically stated the donation was for Kyle, Wood deemed it a contribution to his "justice fund."
oh this is why Kyle said that they had the million dollars needed but Wood/Pierce said he'd be safer in jail than home with his family
oh this is why Kyle said that they had the million dollars needed but Wood/Pierce said he'd be safer in jail than home with his family
Posted by: kallisto at November 23, 2021 01:12 PM (DJFLF)
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*smishes MP4*
Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (Pw26M)
This is a trillion percent accurate.
Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (Pw26M)
This is a trillion percent accurate.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 23, 2021 01:12 PM (mf5HN)
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319 IIRC, the Wood fund reached the bail number, but Wood claimed that unless the donor specifically stated the donation was for Kyle, Wood deemed it a contribution to his "justice fund."
So although Wood claimed he was raising money for Kyle, he was really just raising money for himself. Yep, that's what I thought.
So although Wood claimed he was raising money for Kyle, he was really just raising money for himself. Yep, that's what I thought.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 01:12 PM (trdmm)
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They could easily improve matters considerably by simply suspending their war on oil and gas. Higher gas prices cause a cascade of far-reaching increases in costs for virtually all commodities and hurt the working poor the most. But $5 a gallon gas is the hill they want to die on. So be it.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 23, 2021 01:13 PM (HmZuC)
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I'll vote thumbs down on traffic circles. I choose routes to avoid some of them.
Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at November 23, 2021 01:13 PM (qpX6U)
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Sure, but how many districts, let alone states, have passed any such safeguards? In any place where the Republican wasn't going to win anyway?
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Sure, in Florida alone the new voting laws will flip between 2 and 4 seats to the GOP. There are also new laws in Georgia, Texas, and Wisconsin that will flip seats.
Pennsylvania effectively has a new law, since the Governor's emergency powers were stripped. Since Wolf vetoed the new voting laws they go back to being the most restrictive absentee ballot state in the nation.
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Sure, in Florida alone the new voting laws will flip between 2 and 4 seats to the GOP. There are also new laws in Georgia, Texas, and Wisconsin that will flip seats.
Pennsylvania effectively has a new law, since the Governor's emergency powers were stripped. Since Wolf vetoed the new voting laws they go back to being the most restrictive absentee ballot state in the nation.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 01:13 PM (5p7BC)
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Democrats play the long game. In 2010, big losses but Obamacare is still here. Pass the $ocial $pending bill, lose in 2022 and eventually come back. For more.
Posted by: JM in Florida at November 23, 2021 01:13 PM (IP1HV)
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I think an argument could be made for intentional malfeasance on one side(against whites) and general neglect on the other(in areas where blacks mostly live).
I think rhomboid's point about those in contact with the system is a strong one: its not so much that it persecutes blacks as it is crooked and ruins everyone but mostly blacks live in this area.
But overall... yeah. The system is a mess but specifically targets white folks these days. Like it used to black folks in the past.
I think rhomboid's point about those in contact with the system is a strong one: its not so much that it persecutes blacks as it is crooked and ruins everyone but mostly blacks live in this area.
But overall... yeah. The system is a mess but specifically targets white folks these days. Like it used to black folks in the past.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:13 PM (KZzsI)
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Roundabouts are fine for areas that have four way stops, but are inferior to traffic lights is my conclusion.
Posted by: whig at November 23, 2021 01:13 PM (9hXN1)
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Both parties figured out decades ago that you can use gerrymandering to make sure the same asses stay in the same seats for decades. The result is the leadership is packed with corrupt pols who only uphold the establishment.
You'd literally have to vote out every single member of the House in a single election cycle to even have a hope of making any headway there...and those bills would die in the Senate which would take a lot longer to clean out.
You'd literally have to vote out every single member of the House in a single election cycle to even have a hope of making any headway there...and those bills would die in the Senate which would take a lot longer to clean out.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 23, 2021 01:14 PM (NazZr)
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After BBB passes and the likely debacle next fall: ok, ok. I heard you. Biden will try to tact to middle for 2024.
And if things improve 10%, that will be the story in 2024. See, remember 4.75 (Cali) gas prices. They're stable at $4.00. A decrease of ~20%. Vote for me.
And if things improve 10%, that will be the story in 2024. See, remember 4.75 (Cali) gas prices. They're stable at $4.00. A decrease of ~20%. Vote for me.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 23, 2021 01:14 PM (NW9xb)
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Waukesha Police Chief Daniel Thompson said the motive for the attack was still a mystery but that it was clear the suspect had acted intentionally.
Are you fuckin kidding me? A mystery? Get a clue
Are you fuckin kidding me? A mystery? Get a clue
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 23, 2021 01:14 PM (GPwVZ)
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There are a few traffic circles around here--often entering housing subdivisions and there are some in low traffic areas.
I think they work best in low traffic areas but people never get used to how they are supposed to work.
I think they work best in low traffic areas but people never get used to how they are supposed to work.
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 01:14 PM (cSyAR)
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I'll lay even money that, if the GOP takes the house and senate, they will do nothing - or, perhaps the bare minimum - to reverse Stinkfinger's policies but will leave his most toxic legacies and personnel in place and come 2024, we'll all be here wondering WFT the GOP stabbed us in the back again.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (2JVJo)
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I think McCarthy's visits with Trump might suggest a slightly different response this time. Bakersfield is Trump country, and Trump could get McCarthy beat in a nanosecond if he desired to do so, and if McCarthy as speaker plays a Ryan, Trump will treat him as he should have treated Ryan. So while my expectations for McCarthy are low, I think he has a little bit more to be worried about than the normal GOP squish.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 12:30 PM (2JVJo)
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I think McCarthy's visits with Trump might suggest a slightly different response this time. Bakersfield is Trump country, and Trump could get McCarthy beat in a nanosecond if he desired to do so, and if McCarthy as speaker plays a Ryan, Trump will treat him as he should have treated Ryan. So while my expectations for McCarthy are low, I think he has a little bit more to be worried about than the normal GOP squish.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 23, 2021 01:14 PM (V6xwG)
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Is holding the media in absolute, utter contempt the number one desired quality for conservative candidates?
Let's put it another way: if they do not, then they trust and respect the media too much to be trusted.
Let's put it another way: if they do not, then they trust and respect the media too much to be trusted.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:15 PM (KZzsI)
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There used to be a big traffic circle in East Dallas. When it was torn up and replaced in the 80's, the paper did a retrospective look back and determined that over 250 people had died on it over the previous 50 years.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 01:15 PM (trdmm)
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>>> Somewhere down the road I expect the DNC to produce a book about the 2020 election in a similar vein to OJ Simpson, "If We Did It."
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (dQvv7)
Wasn't Time magazine's "fortify" piece that already?
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (dQvv7)
Wasn't Time magazine's "fortify" piece that already?
Posted by: banana Dream at November 23, 2021 01:15 PM (lSgzp)
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McGonaghey is going to prove that, even in tx, women are too stupid to trust with voting.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:15 PM (Pw26M)
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not everybody enjoys anal explosions from food cntaminates as much as you
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (K3ZCc)
Nothing is quite as fun as illnesses from contaminated food.
But for true excitement try hookworm
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 01:06 PM (K3ZCc)
Nothing is quite as fun as illnesses from contaminated food.
But for true excitement try hookworm
Posted by: Kindltot at November 23, 2021 01:15 PM (P9T5R)
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But Lin Wood says No, he set up the paperwork to create the fund for Kyle, so HE should get the entire $2 million and Kyle shouldn't get anything.
what a piece of shit he's turned out to be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (trdmm)
That's getting into avenetti territory there. This seems like it could have had an easy fix. I get some. You get some and we call it all goood and go our separate ways. And that might be what the ultimate decision ends up being. But without the extra legal fees.
what a piece of shit he's turned out to be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 12:46 PM (trdmm)
That's getting into avenetti territory there. This seems like it could have had an easy fix. I get some. You get some and we call it all goood and go our separate ways. And that might be what the ultimate decision ends up being. But without the extra legal fees.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 23, 2021 01:17 PM (cFsny)
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Unlike the Las Vegas shooter, they took Brooks alive. Sooner or later the truth will out, unless the Feds arrange for him to slip on his soap in prison. Sinister, I know, but that's the reality we live in.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 23, 2021 01:17 PM (HmZuC)
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Waukesha Police Chief Daniel Thompson said the motive for the attack was still a mystery but that it was clear the suspect had acted intentionally.
I read somewhere that the DOJ would take over messaging, and anything you hear from the yokels will be written by DOJ PR.
I read somewhere that the DOJ would take over messaging, and anything you hear from the yokels will be written by DOJ PR.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:17 PM (Pw26M)
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IIRC, the Wood fund reached the bail number, but Wood claimed that unless the donor specifically stated the donation was for Kyle, Wood deemed it a contribution to his "justice fund."
oh this is why Kyle said that they had the million dollars needed but Wood/Pierce said he'd be safer in jail than home with his family
Posted by: kallisto
Fuck Lin Wood. Fucking scheming sleaze lawyer.
No offense to the sleazy lawyers here.
(You guys know I'm kidding)
oh this is why Kyle said that they had the million dollars needed but Wood/Pierce said he'd be safer in jail than home with his family
Posted by: kallisto
Fuck Lin Wood. Fucking scheming sleaze lawyer.
No offense to the sleazy lawyers here.
(You guys know I'm kidding)
Posted by: rickb223 at November 23, 2021 01:17 PM (OCTRt)
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It doesn't matter who casts the votes.
It matters who programs the software that "counts" the votes.
It matters who programs the software that "counts" the votes.
Posted by: Just saying at November 23, 2021 01:18 PM (wQ1KQ)
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OT-Segregation in churches in NZ over Covid vaccinations and one priest in nearby Australia who had enough and resigned. It's both infuriating and heartbreaking:
https://tinyurl.com/4m67mvf9
https://tinyurl.com/4m67mvf9
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 23, 2021 01:18 PM (poMoX)
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Thanks for this encouraging post, Dave in Fla. We can use all the encouragement we can get.
Yes, I make no illusions if the Republicans win back the House. But it will give us time to catch our breath, for whatever that's worth in our continued destruction of a country. That is, catch our breath before the Democrats win once more and push our heads back under the water.
Yes, I make no illusions if the Republicans win back the House. But it will give us time to catch our breath, for whatever that's worth in our continued destruction of a country. That is, catch our breath before the Democrats win once more and push our heads back under the water.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 23, 2021 01:18 PM (sVtYq)
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McCarthy is a weak leader so vulnerable to strong policy pushes from the back bench and chairs of committees.
McConnell, on the other hand, has about 10-15 co conspirators for Team Chamber of Commerce on board that regularly do the reach around with the other side. Aim at taking out McConnell as majority leader rather than McCarthy as Speaker if you want substantial change.
McConnell, on the other hand, has about 10-15 co conspirators for Team Chamber of Commerce on board that regularly do the reach around with the other side. Aim at taking out McConnell as majority leader rather than McCarthy as Speaker if you want substantial change.
Posted by: whig at November 23, 2021 01:18 PM (9hXN1)
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Pennsylvania effectively has a new law, since the Governor's emergency powers were stripped. Since Wolf vetoed the new voting laws they go back to being the most restrictive absentee ballot state in the nation.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 01:13 PM
I just voted two weeks ago by absentee ballot in PA and it was a breeze. The online process is a little shaky because you have to answer 'No' to two questions, which made me assume I couldn't do it, but the ballot showed up, I mailed it back, and got confirmation it was received.
btw: Thanks for chipping in this week. You're always interesting.
Pennsylvania effectively has a new law, since the Governor's emergency powers were stripped. Since Wolf vetoed the new voting laws they go back to being the most restrictive absentee ballot state in the nation.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 01:13 PM
I just voted two weeks ago by absentee ballot in PA and it was a breeze. The online process is a little shaky because you have to answer 'No' to two questions, which made me assume I couldn't do it, but the ballot showed up, I mailed it back, and got confirmation it was received.
btw: Thanks for chipping in this week. You're always interesting.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 23, 2021 01:18 PM (dQvv7)
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Dave I assume you were just tossing that part out there, but the stuff about the Dems thinking their policies would work out just fine ...... not so sure.
I personally know/have known, well, several Dem officeholders (Senate and House). None of them really had much in the way of understanding actual issues. They all had very fervent NPR/Beltway mindset/dumbest think-tank/media "understanding" of major issues. That is, not much, to absolutely zero, actual understanding.
In any case, the Trump years stand as the most spectacular, and decisive, settling of the question on major areas, especially economic, in my lifetime.
That a president whose policies were materially responsible for the best economy in the lives of almost all living voters (heh) could be displaced, by literally (as Trump himself rashly pronounced on the campaign trail) the worst and weakest candidate in modern history, *even with fraud*, is the central reality nobody seems comfortable facing.
Trump's margin in 2016 was about the same as Joe's alleged one this time. That it could be anything but a 30+ state blowout is really a key point of 2020.
I personally know/have known, well, several Dem officeholders (Senate and House). None of them really had much in the way of understanding actual issues. They all had very fervent NPR/Beltway mindset/dumbest think-tank/media "understanding" of major issues. That is, not much, to absolutely zero, actual understanding.
In any case, the Trump years stand as the most spectacular, and decisive, settling of the question on major areas, especially economic, in my lifetime.
That a president whose policies were materially responsible for the best economy in the lives of almost all living voters (heh) could be displaced, by literally (as Trump himself rashly pronounced on the campaign trail) the worst and weakest candidate in modern history, *even with fraud*, is the central reality nobody seems comfortable facing.
Trump's margin in 2016 was about the same as Joe's alleged one this time. That it could be anything but a 30+ state blowout is really a key point of 2020.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (OTzUX)
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There used to be a big traffic circle in East Dallas. When it was torn up and replaced in the 80's, the paper did a retrospective look back and determined that over 250 people had died on it over the previous 50 years.
A lot of the dashcam channels now use footage from a webcam at a big new traffic circle in, I think, Milwaukee. Seemingly multiple times a day people drive off the sides or through the center and destroy the lights, shrubbery, utility poles, and their cars. In one case the work crews were just finishing up repairing the carnage from a previous incident and car went off the side of the circle and destroyed the light fixture they'd just installed.
Also, I can't imagine the Dems will be for them once they realize it eliminates red light camera revenue.
A lot of the dashcam channels now use footage from a webcam at a big new traffic circle in, I think, Milwaukee. Seemingly multiple times a day people drive off the sides or through the center and destroy the lights, shrubbery, utility poles, and their cars. In one case the work crews were just finishing up repairing the carnage from a previous incident and car went off the side of the circle and destroyed the light fixture they'd just installed.
Also, I can't imagine the Dems will be for them once they realize it eliminates red light camera revenue.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (6XLoz)
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Have a traffic circle in our town of less then 1000, very helpful due to the number of accidents recorded at it when it was a 4 way. It's on a major roadway down the valley and they have an extra lane to the right of it to continue down the major roadway. Big, big help.
Sucks in major metro areas.
Missoula, close to the university has these circular pieces of land in their intersections. PITA as it reduces the width of the lanes since they are in residential areas.
Sucks in major metro areas.
Missoula, close to the university has these circular pieces of land in their intersections. PITA as it reduces the width of the lanes since they are in residential areas.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (2NHgQ)
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Waukesha Police Chief Daniel Thompson said the motive for the attack was still a mystery but that it was clear the suspect had acted intentionally.
This is pretty easy to claim, though. You cannot ever perfectly know the motivation of someone's heart or what they were thinking at the very instant they did it.
Unless its deemed a "hate crime" then they know totally for certain exactly why someone did a thing.
This is pretty easy to claim, though. You cannot ever perfectly know the motivation of someone's heart or what they were thinking at the very instant they did it.
Unless its deemed a "hate crime" then they know totally for certain exactly why someone did a thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (KZzsI)
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Remove all traffic control devices and trust people to do the right thing.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (Pw26M)
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Won't help their replacements are also tools. It's cucks all the way down.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (NazZr)
It was bad enough when they were just cucks, now they're cucks who tolerated or helped with the steal, so they're prone to be blackmailed. Twice as useless, now.
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (NazZr)
It was bad enough when they were just cucks, now they're cucks who tolerated or helped with the steal, so they're prone to be blackmailed. Twice as useless, now.
Posted by: CN...FJB at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (ONvIw)
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Thanks Dave in FL ...always a fantastic read.
Question for you ... now that purple FL is pretty much red (you agree?), which of these following purple states do you think is most likely to become permanently red (as happened in OH)?
-Wisconsin
-Arizona
-Georgia
-Pennsylvania
-Michigan
Question for you ... now that purple FL is pretty much red (you agree?), which of these following purple states do you think is most likely to become permanently red (as happened in OH)?
-Wisconsin
-Arizona
-Georgia
-Pennsylvania
-Michigan
Posted by: Forheremenaremen at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (GMR0L)
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Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (Pw26M)
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Nah. Where I live, over the past decade a ton of them have been built. And everyone knows how to use them just fine. It's not fucking rocket science, I mean come on. Total accidents, and more specifically serious injury accidents have fallen by significant numbers where they replaced intersections. Roundabout accidents are usually fender benders since it's at low speeds and there are no 90 degree angles, so you can't have the T-bone type accidents.
The one I posted the video of is just insane, but it still works pretty well and if you watched the video, it says there has only been 1 fatality in that intersection in the past 5 years. Given the number of cars that pass through every day, that in and of itself is pretty damn amazing.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (Pw26M)
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Nah. Where I live, over the past decade a ton of them have been built. And everyone knows how to use them just fine. It's not fucking rocket science, I mean come on. Total accidents, and more specifically serious injury accidents have fallen by significant numbers where they replaced intersections. Roundabout accidents are usually fender benders since it's at low speeds and there are no 90 degree angles, so you can't have the T-bone type accidents.
The one I posted the video of is just insane, but it still works pretty well and if you watched the video, it says there has only been 1 fatality in that intersection in the past 5 years. Given the number of cars that pass through every day, that in and of itself is pretty damn amazing.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (OalnH)
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367 Remove all traffic control devices and trust people to do the right thing.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (Pw26M)
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You must be one of those right wing Nazis I hear so much about.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (Pw26M)
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You must be one of those right wing Nazis I hear so much about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (3EWns)
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**smishes AtC back**
37 days to go (my last was supposed to be December 31, but I bailed and my last will be the 30th). Come next month I'm going to try to take every Monday off, since I can't cash them in. It will be interesting to see if the company lets me.
From Friday. December 31 2021 until Friday, January 7 2022, I plan to be drunker than a Kennedy, smoke like a Pittsburgh steel mill and screw -
- well, I can't have everything. I will drink and smoke, though.
37 days to go (my last was supposed to be December 31, but I bailed and my last will be the 30th). Come next month I'm going to try to take every Monday off, since I can't cash them in. It will be interesting to see if the company lets me.
From Friday. December 31 2021 until Friday, January 7 2022, I plan to be drunker than a Kennedy, smoke like a Pittsburgh steel mill and screw -
- well, I can't have everything. I will drink and smoke, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (2JVJo)
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352 McGonaghey is going to prove that, even in tx, women are too stupid to trust with voting.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:15 PM (Pw26M)
LOL. Love those polls that show "MM is leading in the polls, and hasn't even campaigned!!!" Gee, I wonder why a popular face who has *never* taken a public issue on anything, and who won't even say what political party he supports, would poll well. "Hmm, I wonder what MM thinks? Well this poll says I should just assume he thinks about everything just like I do. Okeydoke."
The first time he says a word against gun control, the left will explode and denounce him. The first time he says a word in favor of gun control, the right will denounce him. My guess - he keeps his popularity and never says anything about anything, and he does not enter any political race.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:15 PM (Pw26M)
LOL. Love those polls that show "MM is leading in the polls, and hasn't even campaigned!!!" Gee, I wonder why a popular face who has *never* taken a public issue on anything, and who won't even say what political party he supports, would poll well. "Hmm, I wonder what MM thinks? Well this poll says I should just assume he thinks about everything just like I do. Okeydoke."
The first time he says a word against gun control, the left will explode and denounce him. The first time he says a word in favor of gun control, the right will denounce him. My guess - he keeps his popularity and never says anything about anything, and he does not enter any political race.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (trdmm)
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@354: "You get some and we call it all goood and go our separate ways. And that might be what the ultimate decision ends up being. But without the extra legal fees."
Trouble is one guy is a lawyer and suing in his free time, whereas the family obviously isn't, so there's an implied threat to give him way more than he deserves, or he'll just bleed everyone including himself dry outta spite.
Trouble is one guy is a lawyer and suing in his free time, whereas the family obviously isn't, so there's an implied threat to give him way more than he deserves, or he'll just bleed everyone including himself dry outta spite.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (+WWsf)
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I personally know/have known, well, several Dem officeholders (Senate and House). None of them really had much in the way of understanding actual issues. They all had very fervent NPR/Beltway mindset/dumbest think-tank/media "understanding" of major issues. That is, not much, to absolutely zero, actual understanding.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (OTzUX)
They have blind faith in their own competence. It's a bunch of bureaucrats well over their heads. Fauci is a great example of this type. Yes they're awful people too, but oftentimes they genuinely believe they're the smart responsible adults who should run things.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (OTzUX)
They have blind faith in their own competence. It's a bunch of bureaucrats well over their heads. Fauci is a great example of this type. Yes they're awful people too, but oftentimes they genuinely believe they're the smart responsible adults who should run things.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 01:21 PM (z5Vrg)
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Don't drink and drive in traffic circles.
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 01:21 PM (v0R5T)
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Brooks rapped about running people over, hard BLM lyrics I have read, but cover your eyes and ears and wonder why he did it.
Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 23, 2021 01:22 PM (RxZ8d)
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371 367 Remove all traffic control devices and trust people to do the right thing.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (Pw26M)
I've been in a Mexican Taxi, cowering in the back. I know what that looks like.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (Pw26M)
I've been in a Mexican Taxi, cowering in the back. I know what that looks like.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 01:22 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 23, 2021 01:22 PM (K3ZCc)
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367 Remove all traffic control devices and trust people to do the right thing.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (Pw26M)
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Amsterdam did that in a lot of places. It's a free for all with cars, bikes and passengers at a lot of intersections. No lights, no stop signs. But the roads are built to force everyone to slow down. And it works. It's really cool to watch. It looks like chaos at first, but it's a really efficient way to move people around.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (Pw26M)
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Amsterdam did that in a lot of places. It's a free for all with cars, bikes and passengers at a lot of intersections. No lights, no stop signs. But the roads are built to force everyone to slow down. And it works. It's really cool to watch. It looks like chaos at first, but it's a really efficient way to move people around.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:22 PM (OalnH)
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Thanks Dave in FL ...always a fantastic read.
Question for you ... now that purple FL is pretty much red (you agree?), which of these following purple states do you think is most likely to become permanently red (as happened in OH)?
-Wisconsin
-Arizona
-Georgia
-Pennsylvania
-Michigan
Posted by: Forheremenaremen at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (GMR0L)
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I'm not Dave - but Wisconsin. This Kenosha thing leaves scars. On dems elected all over the state. Evers let this happen. Everyone up there knows it.
Question for you ... now that purple FL is pretty much red (you agree?), which of these following purple states do you think is most likely to become permanently red (as happened in OH)?
-Wisconsin
-Arizona
-Georgia
-Pennsylvania
-Michigan
Posted by: Forheremenaremen at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (GMR0L)
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I'm not Dave - but Wisconsin. This Kenosha thing leaves scars. On dems elected all over the state. Evers let this happen. Everyone up there knows it.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (V6xwG)
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Sort of tangentially watching the Lin Wood conversation. I know some of the back story, and my understanding is that Wood's organization put up the bail, so is legal entitled to it. David Hancock is controlling the Rittenhouse family right now, who used to work for Wood.
So this is Hancock and Wood fighting over who gets to keep the money. Kyle isn't likely to get any of it, no matter who wins.
BTW, Lin Wood was one of the principles who fucked up the legal challenge to the 2020 election. They went down the Dominion rat hole, that was always going to be a dead end. The question is if he did it on purpose or was suckered into it.
The 2020 legal challenge needed to be against the canvas not the count. Once they accepted the canvas, the legal challenge was toast.
So this is Hancock and Wood fighting over who gets to keep the money. Kyle isn't likely to get any of it, no matter who wins.
BTW, Lin Wood was one of the principles who fucked up the legal challenge to the 2020 election. They went down the Dominion rat hole, that was always going to be a dead end. The question is if he did it on purpose or was suckered into it.
The 2020 legal challenge needed to be against the canvas not the count. Once they accepted the canvas, the legal challenge was toast.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (5p7BC)
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Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
Co-signed. They're a complete menace in a country where the vast majority of drivers never had them in drivers' ed, and they're not much better in Europe based on dashcam videos.
Co-signed. They're a complete menace in a country where the vast majority of drivers never had them in drivers' ed, and they're not much better in Europe based on dashcam videos.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (6XLoz)
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Well,it's no Big Rock Candy Mountain.
Hiker discovers Hawaiian stream with 1.2% alcohol content
https://bit.ly/3DNOJui
Hiker discovers Hawaiian stream with 1.2% alcohol content
https://bit.ly/3DNOJui
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (FVME7)
385
The most important trend is the trend toward mail in ballots. This is in the bag for the Ds.
Posted by: InCali at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (ov5G+)
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This is pretty easy to claim, though. You cannot ever perfectly know the motivation of someone's heart or what they were thinking at the very instant they did it. Unless its deemed a "hate crime" then they know totally for certain exactly why someone did a thing. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (KZzsI)
It doesn't have to be just one motivation. Some people are just evil and he might have got some pleasure from hitting people with his car. Especially as he kept going. He might have just, in the moment, been doing it for fun. I also don't rule out the LARP effect: if you do things like that in enough video games, it doesn't seem as bad to you when you're doing it in live action.
It doesn't have to be just one motivation. Some people are just evil and he might have got some pleasure from hitting people with his car. Especially as he kept going. He might have just, in the moment, been doing it for fun. I also don't rule out the LARP effect: if you do things like that in enough video games, it doesn't seem as bad to you when you're doing it in live action.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 01:24 PM (BMmaB)
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not first
Posted by: JT at November 23, 2021 01:24 PM (arJlL)
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Waukesha Police Chief Daniel Thompson said the motive for the attack was still a mystery but that it was clear the suspect had acted intentionally.
This is pretty easy to claim, though. You cannot ever perfectly know the motivation of someone's heart or what they were thinking at the very instant they did it.
If you don't know the motive, you can't tell if it was intentional.
This is pretty easy to claim, though. You cannot ever perfectly know the motivation of someone's heart or what they were thinking at the very instant they did it.
If you don't know the motive, you can't tell if it was intentional.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 23, 2021 01:24 PM (OCTRt)
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Let's put it this way. Brooks didn't run into a crowd of looters with their hands full of hair extensions and Nikes. He targeted whites. They can try and obfuscate however they wish, but it won't work.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 23, 2021 01:24 PM (sVtYq)
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385 The most important trend is the trend toward mail in ballots. This is in the bag for the Ds.
Posted by: InCali at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (ov5G+)
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The long term effect will be decreased national power as people flee those states with mandatory mail in voting where Democrats are allowed to make hay without worry for any electoral blowback.
Posted by: InCali at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (ov5G+)
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The long term effect will be decreased national power as people flee those states with mandatory mail in voting where Democrats are allowed to make hay without worry for any electoral blowback.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 01:24 PM (3EWns)
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Politico:
In the days after the Democratic Party's collapse in the Virginia governor's race, party strategists descended on the commonwealth to figure out what went wrong and understand just how bad the national outlook might be next year.
What they discovered, largely through focus groups and polling, was even worse than expected. The problems cut far deeper than the failings of their gubernatorial nominee, Terry McAuliffe, or President Joe Biden's flagging approval ratings. Rather, the Democratic Party's entire brand was a wreck.
"Voters couldn't name anything that Democrats had done, except a few who said we passed the infrastructure bill," the center-left group Third Way and its pollsters said in a report, obtained first by POLITICO, on focus groups they ran in Virginia.
In the days after the Democratic Party's collapse in the Virginia governor's race, party strategists descended on the commonwealth to figure out what went wrong and understand just how bad the national outlook might be next year.
What they discovered, largely through focus groups and polling, was even worse than expected. The problems cut far deeper than the failings of their gubernatorial nominee, Terry McAuliffe, or President Joe Biden's flagging approval ratings. Rather, the Democratic Party's entire brand was a wreck.
"Voters couldn't name anything that Democrats had done, except a few who said we passed the infrastructure bill," the center-left group Third Way and its pollsters said in a report, obtained first by POLITICO, on focus groups they ran in Virginia.
Posted by: SMOD at November 23, 2021 01:24 PM (RHGPo)
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Trouble is one guy is a lawyer and suing in his free time, whereas the family obviously isn't, so there's an implied threat to give him way more than he deserves, or he'll just bleed everyone including himself dry outta spite.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM
Insert old joke about lawyer appearing before St Peter in heaven and requesting admittance. St Peter shuffles some papers around and finally admits, "I'm not sure, according to your billing records you should have been applying her years ago."
Trouble is one guy is a lawyer and suing in his free time, whereas the family obviously isn't, so there's an implied threat to give him way more than he deserves, or he'll just bleed everyone including himself dry outta spite.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM
Insert old joke about lawyer appearing before St Peter in heaven and requesting admittance. St Peter shuffles some papers around and finally admits, "I'm not sure, according to your billing records you should have been applying her years ago."
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 23, 2021 01:25 PM (dQvv7)
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37 days to go (my last was supposed to be December 31, but I bailed and my last will be the 30th). Come next month I'm going to try to take every Monday off, since I can't cash them in. It will be interesting to see if the company lets me.
From Friday. December 31 2021 until Friday, January 7 2022, I plan to be drunker than a Kennedy, smoke like a Pittsburgh steel mill and screw -
- well, I can't have everything. I will drink and smoke, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (2JVJo)
Good for you!
From Friday. December 31 2021 until Friday, January 7 2022, I plan to be drunker than a Kennedy, smoke like a Pittsburgh steel mill and screw -
- well, I can't have everything. I will drink and smoke, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (2JVJo)
Good for you!
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 23, 2021 01:25 PM (mf5HN)
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States turning more Red is a good thing. Either we are going to have to attempt to retake the Country inch by inch or push LIB and reset after the fire is out. There is no in between. Admittedly I've been facilitating between the two for sometime now.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 23, 2021 01:25 PM (shMPn)
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If you don't know the motive, you can't tell if it was intentional.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 23, 2021 01:24 PM (OCTRt)
Not attempting to stop would seem to be a pretty clear indicator of intent.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 23, 2021 01:24 PM (OCTRt)
Not attempting to stop would seem to be a pretty clear indicator of intent.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 01:25 PM (z5Vrg)
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Hiker discovers Hawaiian stream with 1.2% alcohol content
https://bit.ly/3DNOJui
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (FVME7)
........
must have been a luau somewhere upstream.
https://bit.ly/3DNOJui
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (FVME7)
........
must have been a luau somewhere upstream.
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 01:25 PM (v0R5T)
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There's a road on, I believe, the west side of Billings, Montana that is traffic circles all the way.
I preferred that, as I bypass the city, to endless traffic lights.
I preferred that, as I bypass the city, to endless traffic lights.
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 01:25 PM (cSyAR)
398
391 "Voters couldn't name anything that Democrats had done, except a few who said we passed the infrastructure bill," the center-left group Third Way and its pollsters said in a report, obtained first by POLITICO, on focus groups they ran in Virginia.
Posted by: SMOD at November 23, 2021 01:24 PM (RHGPo)
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And we thought the GOP's brand was bad. At least we have Trump to buoy it.
Posted by: SMOD at November 23, 2021 01:24 PM (RHGPo)
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And we thought the GOP's brand was bad. At least we have Trump to buoy it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 01:25 PM (3EWns)
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Let's put it this way. Brooks didn't run into a crowd of looters with their hands full of hair extensions and Nikes. He targeted whites. They can try and obfuscate however they wish, but it won't work.
The most charitable interpretation is just that he liked running people over. Insty has quotes from a BLM spokesthing saying Brooks "begins the war on white people" though.
The most charitable interpretation is just that he liked running people over. Insty has quotes from a BLM spokesthing saying Brooks "begins the war on white people" though.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 23, 2021 01:25 PM (6XLoz)
400
I think McCarthy's visits with Trump might suggest a slightly different response this time.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 23, 2021 01:14 PM (V6xwG)
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I too was once hopeful.
Seriously, this isn't wrong (insofar as McCarthy often visits PDJT), but my hopes go to cynicism when I recall he has done nothing as Leader. He never speaks out to protect Republicans. And House Republicans are as much influenced by the Uptons as the Gohmerts. Maybe more.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 23, 2021 01:14 PM (V6xwG)
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I too was once hopeful.
Seriously, this isn't wrong (insofar as McCarthy often visits PDJT), but my hopes go to cynicism when I recall he has done nothing as Leader. He never speaks out to protect Republicans. And House Republicans are as much influenced by the Uptons as the Gohmerts. Maybe more.
Posted by: Mrs. Frank McCarthy-Luntz at November 23, 2021 01:26 PM (NBppC)
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>>> Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
Somehow, we Massholes are able to handle them.
Somehow, we Massholes are able to handle them.
Posted by: fluffy at November 23, 2021 01:26 PM (UnQlg)
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Evers let this happen. Everyone up there knows it. Posted by: Black JEM at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (V6xwG)
I'm pretty sure it was more than "letting" it happen. There's a pretty good case for Evers and others (Bowser, DeBlasio) that they actually wanted a little destruction.
I'm pretty sure it was more than "letting" it happen. There's a pretty good case for Evers and others (Bowser, DeBlasio) that they actually wanted a little destruction.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 01:26 PM (BMmaB)
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Who are these people who don't know how to drive in a traffic circle? I mean fuck, you enter and drive until your exit appears. I mean Christ, if Americans are really this dumb, we have bigger problems than traffic.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:27 PM (OalnH)
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The most charitable interpretation is just that he liked running people over.
If you believe his social media and videos, he hates white people and wants them dead, and is a very angry, bitter, criminal man. And probably crazy.
If you believe his social media and videos, he hates white people and wants them dead, and is a very angry, bitter, criminal man. And probably crazy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:27 PM (KZzsI)
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Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 23, 2021 01:18 PM (poMoX)
I don't understand why these extreme measures are being enacted. Unless NZ also has the ridiculous "Zero Covide" policy in effect.
It's not like the bug is rampaging through that little island
I don't understand why these extreme measures are being enacted. Unless NZ also has the ridiculous "Zero Covide" policy in effect.
It's not like the bug is rampaging through that little island
Posted by: kallisto at November 23, 2021 01:27 PM (DJFLF)
406
Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (Pw26M)
Not really, libertarianism is like a major intersection in Bombay or Rome where there are no signals. Inefficient but it sorts itself out
Traffic circles are progressive in that they try to nudge people to do certain actions without giving room to sort things out and lay the onus on the drivers when the don't get it
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (Pw26M)
Not really, libertarianism is like a major intersection in Bombay or Rome where there are no signals. Inefficient but it sorts itself out
Traffic circles are progressive in that they try to nudge people to do certain actions without giving room to sort things out and lay the onus on the drivers when the don't get it
Posted by: Kindltot at November 23, 2021 01:27 PM (P9T5R)
407
400 Seriously, this isn't wrong (insofar as McCarthy often visits PDJT), but my hopes go to cynicism when I recall he has done nothing as Leader. He never speaks out to protect Republicans. And House Republicans are as much influenced by the Uptons as the Gohmerts. Maybe more.
Posted by: Mrs. Frank McCarthy-Luntz at November 23, 2021 01:26 PM (NBppC)
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I don't trust any insinuation that "Republicans don't say anything". No, they say a lot. The media projects very little of it. It may be ineffective because they don't have that bullhorn, but that's a different story.
Posted by: Mrs. Frank McCarthy-Luntz at November 23, 2021 01:26 PM (NBppC)
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I don't trust any insinuation that "Republicans don't say anything". No, they say a lot. The media projects very little of it. It may be ineffective because they don't have that bullhorn, but that's a different story.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 01:27 PM (3EWns)
408
Hershel Walker is responsible for 3 Super Bowl Championships for the Cowboys in the 90's.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (flINI)
Truth. Probably at least 2 of those would have gone to SF otherwise.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (flINI)
Truth. Probably at least 2 of those would have gone to SF otherwise.
Posted by: Doof at November 23, 2021 01:27 PM (mZUr4)
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Who are these people who don't know how to drive in a traffic circle?
Everyone who has never driven in one? Like, 99% of America? Who are perfectly happy with the control and regularity of a 4-way stop?
Everyone who has never driven in one? Like, 99% of America? Who are perfectly happy with the control and regularity of a 4-way stop?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:28 PM (KZzsI)
410
Wo wo wo.
Last comment on the topic, but no, my point about "racial" impact of flawed criminal justice system was absolutely not about where people lived.
It was about individual behavior. The wildly disproportionate "blackness" of serious crime (vs. % of population) is a reality, criminal justice outcomes (convictions/pleas/incarceration) simply reflect that.
Flaws in the system = those outcomes are probably much worse than they should be, but the underlying reality is what it is. On this topic, the other day I saw an incredibly stupid twat by Don Jr, who used the ridiculous term "mass incarceration". This is one of the most poisonous and vile lies of the racist-authoritarians, and like a good GOP type, Don Jr just picks it up, to throw at his opponents.
Unless I missed those mass trials, where masses of people were convicted due to their skin color, and then incarcerated, en masse.
Last comment on the topic, but no, my point about "racial" impact of flawed criminal justice system was absolutely not about where people lived.
It was about individual behavior. The wildly disproportionate "blackness" of serious crime (vs. % of population) is a reality, criminal justice outcomes (convictions/pleas/incarceration) simply reflect that.
Flaws in the system = those outcomes are probably much worse than they should be, but the underlying reality is what it is. On this topic, the other day I saw an incredibly stupid twat by Don Jr, who used the ridiculous term "mass incarceration". This is one of the most poisonous and vile lies of the racist-authoritarians, and like a good GOP type, Don Jr just picks it up, to throw at his opponents.
Unless I missed those mass trials, where masses of people were convicted due to their skin color, and then incarcerated, en masse.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 01:28 PM (OTzUX)
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380 367 Remove all traffic control devices and trust people to do the right thing.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (Pw26M)
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Amsterdam did that in a lot of places. It's a free for all with cars, bikes and passengers at a lot of intersections. No lights, no stop signs. But the roads are built to force everyone to slow down. And it works. It's really cool to watch. It looks like chaos at first, but it's a really efficient way to move people around.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:22 PM (OalnH)
Not knowing if the other guy is stoned makes you a better driver.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (Pw26M)
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Amsterdam did that in a lot of places. It's a free for all with cars, bikes and passengers at a lot of intersections. No lights, no stop signs. But the roads are built to force everyone to slow down. And it works. It's really cool to watch. It looks like chaos at first, but it's a really efficient way to move people around.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:22 PM (OalnH)
Not knowing if the other guy is stoned makes you a better driver.
Posted by: Roy at November 23, 2021 01:28 PM (Ti+Tv)
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Question for you ... now that purple FL is pretty much red (you agree?), which of these following purple states do you think is most likely to become permanently red (as happened in OH)?
Posted by: Forheremenaremen
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I agree FL is going to be red for a generation at least. The Hispanic shift in south FL looks to be permanent.
Of the ones you mention, GA, WI, and PA are the most solid in moving to semi-permanent red status. The problem for PA is they need to win state seats, which can still be stolen by Philly. But if they got a DeSantis clone as Governor, then they would shift like Florida has.
Arizona is a question mark. It has been run my the McCain wing for so long, I don't know if you can call it red even if the Republicans win.
Posted by: Forheremenaremen
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I agree FL is going to be red for a generation at least. The Hispanic shift in south FL looks to be permanent.
Of the ones you mention, GA, WI, and PA are the most solid in moving to semi-permanent red status. The problem for PA is they need to win state seats, which can still be stolen by Philly. But if they got a DeSantis clone as Governor, then they would shift like Florida has.
Arizona is a question mark. It has been run my the McCain wing for so long, I don't know if you can call it red even if the Republicans win.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 01:28 PM (5p7BC)
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Somehow, we Massholes are able to handle them. Posted by: fluffy at November 23, 2021 01:26 PM (UnQlg)
But you've had them for years and the rest of us haven't. My favorite is the one where you have to exit right to turn left on Route 1 by the airport.
But you've had them for years and the rest of us haven't. My favorite is the one where you have to exit right to turn left on Route 1 by the airport.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 01:28 PM (BMmaB)
414
Following the House's passage of the social spending package on Friday, one Democratic strategist who advises major donors said, "Too late. We're f---ed."
Posted by: SMOD at November 23, 2021 01:28 PM (RHGPo)
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Oh yeah one more problem with traffic circles: if you get behind a really annoying or potentially dangerous car, there you stay until you can find an escape.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:29 PM (KZzsI)
416
Traffic circles are the transgenders of intersections.
Posted by: klaftern at November 23, 2021 01:29 PM (taPSh)
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Somehow, we Massholes are able to handle them.
Posted by: fluffy at November 23, 2021 01:26 PM
Unlike the way we handle 4-way stop signs. And red lights. And use of the blinkah. And pretty much every other traffic rule.
Posted by: fluffy at November 23, 2021 01:26 PM
Unlike the way we handle 4-way stop signs. And red lights. And use of the blinkah. And pretty much every other traffic rule.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 23, 2021 01:29 PM (m+jkK)
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Not attempting to stop would seem to be a pretty clear indicator of intent.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy -
So every old lady who hits the gas and drives thru a storefront intended to?
The police chief is full of shit and is trying to split the baby. They know perfectly well what his intentions were. They just don't want to admit it.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy -
So every old lady who hits the gas and drives thru a storefront intended to?
The police chief is full of shit and is trying to split the baby. They know perfectly well what his intentions were. They just don't want to admit it.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 23, 2021 01:29 PM (OCTRt)
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We are ruled by idiots.
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And non-idiots are taking steps to at least be in states that can ameliorate some of the stupidities. The great realignment is in progress with Republicans are leaving blue states and moving to red states to escape the Democrat lunacy.
The Democrats are trying to dilute this realignment by seeding the illegals in red states who will vote for them there since they can't steal elections there.
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And non-idiots are taking steps to at least be in states that can ameliorate some of the stupidities. The great realignment is in progress with Republicans are leaving blue states and moving to red states to escape the Democrat lunacy.
The Democrats are trying to dilute this realignment by seeding the illegals in red states who will vote for them there since they can't steal elections there.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 23, 2021 01:29 PM (SRmHu)
420
Back in March a question was asked regarding the Democrat plans to win the midterms. The Democrats had planned to run on a booming economy and world stability.
If it weren't for those unvaxxed domestic terrorists and fascist supporters, we probably would be in a booming economy. Why is everyone supporting fascism when we just had it for four years!? - the Democrats
If it weren't for those unvaxxed domestic terrorists and fascist supporters, we probably would be in a booming economy. Why is everyone supporting fascism when we just had it for four years!? - the Democrats
Posted by: Homer's Donuts at November 23, 2021 01:29 PM (BCSAN)
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Welcome to the quarantine "camp", comrade.
Injection makes you free.
Injection makes you free.
Posted by: Australian gubmint at November 23, 2021 01:29 PM (wQ1KQ)
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Not knowing if the other guy is stoned makes you a better driver. Posted by: Roy at November 23, 2021 01:28 PM (Ti+Tv)
Everybody must get stoned.
Everybody must get stoned.
Posted by: Bob Dylan at November 23, 2021 01:29 PM (BMmaB)
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Careful guys you are upsetting moo moo with all this hatred of his beloved amazing traffic circles that work perfectly and only a loser wouldn't appreciate their fine superior European elegance.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 23, 2021 01:29 PM (cFsny)
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People who think traffic circles only work in low traffic areas are wrong about that. There are traffic circles as you exit I-70 in Vail (Colo) that absorb big volumes of cars very well. There's more of those kinds in Massachusetts as you drive east to the Cape, and again they successfully move large volumes of cars.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (NBppC)
425
Remove all traffic control devices and trust people to do the right thing.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (Pw26M)
I've been in a Mexican Taxi, cowering in the back. I know what that looks like.
Posted by: Tom Servo
This sounds like Beijing. Lines denoting traffic lanes are just a suggestion.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:19 PM (Pw26M)
I've been in a Mexican Taxi, cowering in the back. I know what that looks like.
Posted by: Tom Servo
This sounds like Beijing. Lines denoting traffic lanes are just a suggestion.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (Vxu+H)
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Everyone who has never driven in one? Like, 99% of America? Who are perfectly happy with the control and regularity of a 4-way stop?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:28 PM (KZzsI)
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Until I drove in one I had never seen one either. And I figured out what was happening in about 1/10 of a second. Again, if Americans are too dumb to figure it out the first time they see one, we have bigger issues than traffic.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:28 PM (KZzsI)
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Until I drove in one I had never seen one either. And I figured out what was happening in about 1/10 of a second. Again, if Americans are too dumb to figure it out the first time they see one, we have bigger issues than traffic.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (OalnH)
427
Samsung is going to build a $17 billion chip plant in Tyler, TX thanks to the hard work of..... FJB.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (Pw26M)
428
Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
So kinda like marriage.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
So kinda like marriage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (FVME7)
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381 Thanks Dave in FL ...always a fantastic read.
Question for you ... now that purple FL is pretty much red (you agree?), which of these following purple states do you think is most likely to become permanently red (as happened in OH)?-Wisconsin
Posted by: Forheremenaremen at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (GMR0L)
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I'm not Dave - but Wisconsin. This Kenosha thing leaves scars. On dems elected all over the state. Evers let this happen. Everyone up there knows it.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (V6xwG)01:20 PM (GMR0L)
Madison and Milwaukee are too outsized in terms of votes available for WI to become permanently red. While some of the other communities may swing more to the Rep side, Milwaukee is to into "Vote a certain way cause of...certain issues" and Madison is by and large Red in the Marxist definition, and getting more so over time. I doubt many/most there see Kenosha as any more than proof Capitalism fails. I'd like to be wrong, but I don't bet but I'd wager that the last years events aren't going to significantly change either area's voting habits.
So WI may become more purple, but solidly red is years away, if even possible here.
Question for you ... now that purple FL is pretty much red (you agree?), which of these following purple states do you think is most likely to become permanently red (as happened in OH)?-Wisconsin
Posted by: Forheremenaremen at November 23, 2021 01:20 PM (GMR0L)
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I'm not Dave - but Wisconsin. This Kenosha thing leaves scars. On dems elected all over the state. Evers let this happen. Everyone up there knows it.
Posted by: Black JEM at November 23, 2021 01:23 PM (V6xwG)01:20 PM (GMR0L)
Madison and Milwaukee are too outsized in terms of votes available for WI to become permanently red. While some of the other communities may swing more to the Rep side, Milwaukee is to into "Vote a certain way cause of...certain issues" and Madison is by and large Red in the Marxist definition, and getting more so over time. I doubt many/most there see Kenosha as any more than proof Capitalism fails. I'd like to be wrong, but I don't bet but I'd wager that the last years events aren't going to significantly change either area's voting habits.
So WI may become more purple, but solidly red is years away, if even possible here.
Posted by: Bete at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (F9322)
Posted by: Joe in his 18 Wheeler at November 23, 2021 01:31 PM (v0R5T)
431
So although Wood claimed he was raising money for Kyle, he was really just raising money for himself. Yep, that's what I thought.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 01:12 PM
Is this any different than what Trump did with his stop the steal fund, or whatever it was called, he setup post-2020 election? How many people donated to that? Where did that money go? How many people thought that if they donated to that fund, the election would be somehow overturned.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 23, 2021 01:12 PM
Is this any different than what Trump did with his stop the steal fund, or whatever it was called, he setup post-2020 election? How many people donated to that? Where did that money go? How many people thought that if they donated to that fund, the election would be somehow overturned.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 23, 2021 01:31 PM (Do5/p)
432
It's time for Joe Biden to put his money where his mouth is and stop using fossil fuels.
This means:
NO Air Force One
No Marine One
No "Beast" (the limo)
This means:
NO Air Force One
No Marine One
No "Beast" (the limo)
Posted by: SMOD at November 23, 2021 01:31 PM (RHGPo)
433
I've been in traffic, as a passenger, in Bogota and Kampala. The joke about the horn being the brake pedal is the truth.
Buses in Kampala are all battered from forcing their way in.
Buses in Kampala are all battered from forcing their way in.
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 01:31 PM (cSyAR)
434
428 Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
So kinda like marriage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (FVME7)
There are ways out of a traffic circle.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
So kinda like marriage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (FVME7)
There are ways out of a traffic circle.
Posted by: Roy at November 23, 2021 01:31 PM (Ti+Tv)
435
Note how "doing something" was the basic concept in VA voters' impression of the Dems (as reported by Politico).
And what was the *sole* data-point in the Dems' favor?
The "infrastructure" bill - which would be nowhere without Mitch and the Senate GOP.
This was what I was referring to earlier. And this is AFTER the nightmare that was 2020, and the phenomenon that was/is Trump (true outsider taking over a major party presidential nomination and actually being elected).
And what was the *sole* data-point in the Dems' favor?
The "infrastructure" bill - which would be nowhere without Mitch and the Senate GOP.
This was what I was referring to earlier. And this is AFTER the nightmare that was 2020, and the phenomenon that was/is Trump (true outsider taking over a major party presidential nomination and actually being elected).
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 01:32 PM (OTzUX)
436
428 Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
So kinda like marriage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (FVME7)
Unlike marriage, civilizations can get by without libertarianism and traffic circles.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
So kinda like marriage.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (FVME7)
Unlike marriage, civilizations can get by without libertarianism and traffic circles.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 01:32 PM (z5Vrg)
437
429 So WI may become more purple, but solidly red is years away, if even possible here.
Posted by: Bete at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (F9322)
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If Scott Walker had prioritized voter integrity, perhaps even doing what DeSantis did with Broward County and removing local oversight of election mechanisms in places like Dade County, Wisconsin would probably be beet red now.
Posted by: Bete at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (F9322)
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If Scott Walker had prioritized voter integrity, perhaps even doing what DeSantis did with Broward County and removing local oversight of election mechanisms in places like Dade County, Wisconsin would probably be beet red now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 01:32 PM (3EWns)
438
I'll be the first one to dump on 'Jersey. But they have traffic circles that actually work - in the rural locations I have driven through. Everyone slows down and chills, and a shitload of traffic goes through without delay.
I'll be the first one to dump on 'Jersey. But they have traffic circles that actually work - in the rural locations I have driven through. Everyone slows down and chills, and a shitload of traffic goes through without delay.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 23, 2021 01:32 PM (dQvv7)
439
I have sat in line at traffic circles where people treat them like a 4 way stop. Honk and get all angry when you just merge in as you are supposed to.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:32 PM (Pw26M)
440
If Lin Wood is correct, he should be suing Rittenhouse for slander. If Rittenhouse is correct, he should be going after Wood's law license for theft. Until I see either of these things happening, I'm just not going to care about this little slapfest.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (mdjgu)
I was thinking exactly this.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 12:41 PM (mdjgu)
I was thinking exactly this.
Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at November 23, 2021 01:32 PM (53oGX)
441
Jersey has jug handles. Shut up.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:33 PM (Pw26M)
442
Everyone slows down and chills, and a shitload of traffic goes through without delay.
Its an illusion of continuous action, because most of the cars are doing circles until they find an opening, and that feels like stuff is going on, but turning left constantly in a circle is no more progress than waiting at a light.
Its an illusion of continuous action, because most of the cars are doing circles until they find an opening, and that feels like stuff is going on, but turning left constantly in a circle is no more progress than waiting at a light.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:33 PM (KZzsI)
443
I don't trust any insinuation that "Republicans don't say anything". No, they say a lot.
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Not insinuation, TJM,, I came right out with my usual unsupported assertion! I'm good with those.
But take a moment and go through McCarthy's tiwtter stream. You will find (or at least I found) not a single mention of Ashli Babbit or the Jan 6 prisoners.
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Not insinuation, TJM,, I came right out with my usual unsupported assertion! I'm good with those.
But take a moment and go through McCarthy's tiwtter stream. You will find (or at least I found) not a single mention of Ashli Babbit or the Jan 6 prisoners.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 01:33 PM (NBppC)
444
It's failure theater.
If the D vote stealing machine fails them they can't possibly blame Republicans for their loss. And blaming Pelosi might be possible especially if she's tits up.
If the D vote stealing machine fails them they can't possibly blame Republicans for their loss. And blaming Pelosi might be possible especially if she's tits up.
Posted by: torabora at November 23, 2021 01:33 PM (J6igU)
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331 I'm all for that. I love roundabouts. I never understand why people have a seering hatred for them. It reduces traffic congestion significantly when it replaces a traditional intersection.
Is it just because it's European so it must be bad thinking?
We have a shit ton of them here in MD. I've concluded that they're a terrible idea that came from Communists. Waiting time at them is often worse than for conventional lights.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (6XLoz)
There is a notorious intersection in Westport, CT. Four-way stop signs, and people still get it wrong, all the time. If you can't follow a four way stop sign, for goodness sakes, a traffic circle is just asking for trouble from some people.
I do like the circle concept, however. I just don't trust any of my fellow drivers to pay attention.
Is it just because it's European so it must be bad thinking?
We have a shit ton of them here in MD. I've concluded that they're a terrible idea that came from Communists. Waiting time at them is often worse than for conventional lights.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 23, 2021 01:11 PM (6XLoz)
There is a notorious intersection in Westport, CT. Four-way stop signs, and people still get it wrong, all the time. If you can't follow a four way stop sign, for goodness sakes, a traffic circle is just asking for trouble from some people.
I do like the circle concept, however. I just don't trust any of my fellow drivers to pay attention.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 01:34 PM (ej/kX)
446
Not attempting to stop would seem to be a pretty clear indicator of intent. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 01:25 PM (z5Vrg)
The first one could maybe, possibly be accidental. After that it's clearly intentional. Legally, the intent doesn't have to be to hit somebody, just to commit a crime that results in someone being hit, and failure to stop and render aid fits the bill.
The first one could maybe, possibly be accidental. After that it's clearly intentional. Legally, the intent doesn't have to be to hit somebody, just to commit a crime that results in someone being hit, and failure to stop and render aid fits the bill.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 23, 2021 01:34 PM (BMmaB)
447
Its an illusion of continuous action, because most of the cars are doing circles until they find an opening, and that feels like stuff is going on, but turning left constantly in a circle is no more progress than waiting at a light.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:33 PM (KZzsI)
You described NASCAR.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 23, 2021 01:33 PM (KZzsI)
You described NASCAR.
Posted by: Roy at November 23, 2021 01:34 PM (Ti+Tv)
448
The most charitable interpretation is just that he liked running people over.
If you believe his social media and videos, he hates white people and wants them dead, and is a very angry, bitter, criminal man. And probably crazy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
So going for the Senate in 2024?
If you believe his social media and videos, he hates white people and wants them dead, and is a very angry, bitter, criminal man. And probably crazy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
So going for the Senate in 2024?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 23, 2021 01:34 PM (FVME7)
449
Weird...have tried to plost several times and it disappears.
Damned glowies!
Anyway...we are indeed ruled by idiots.
Damned glowies!
Anyway...we are indeed ruled by idiots.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 23, 2021 01:34 PM (axyOa)
450
Traffic circles are the transgenders of intersections.
They're stunning, brave, and only people from Boston think they're a good idea?
They're stunning, brave, and only people from Boston think they're a good idea?
Posted by: Ian S. at November 23, 2021 01:34 PM (KLKSV)
451
McCarthy is a generational incumbent - one of many. He was a top staffer for the previous, permanent, seat-warming incumbent, who got re-elected automatically.
He is the perfect echo of his old boss, except that he "rose" to "leadership".
He's as empty and mediocre as most GOP. He was part of the GOP sitting by and watching national institutions get trashed, a presidential administration of their "own" party get knee-capped, and doing little to nothing to implement wildly popular things that propelled the insurgent president into office.
He is the perfect echo of his old boss, except that he "rose" to "leadership".
He's as empty and mediocre as most GOP. He was part of the GOP sitting by and watching national institutions get trashed, a presidential administration of their "own" party get knee-capped, and doing little to nothing to implement wildly popular things that propelled the insurgent president into office.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (OTzUX)
452
So the republicans win and then what? They spend the next 4 years asking democrats what they want
Posted by: Pudding Head at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (0yXIl)
453
I am not the brightest bulb out there. But I am a long time Horde member. In fact it goes back at least a decade or so. I just figured out my posts were being deleted. Or at least I can't see them.
Is that a Vpn thing or am I banned. Serious question here. I wondered about some posts being deleted when I tried out a VPN. I had it on for all net travails. Are vpns banned? or is is certain ones? I hope i am not banned personally, but if so I will abide as they say. Sorry to make a stink, I just couldn't figure why I couldn't find a single post. My guess is VPN, but if a mod can explain it I will accept it.
Is that a Vpn thing or am I banned. Serious question here. I wondered about some posts being deleted when I tried out a VPN. I had it on for all net travails. Are vpns banned? or is is certain ones? I hope i am not banned personally, but if so I will abide as they say. Sorry to make a stink, I just couldn't figure why I couldn't find a single post. My guess is VPN, but if a mod can explain it I will accept it.
Posted by: Quint at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (NXntH)
454
443 But take a moment and go through McCarthy's tiwtter stream. You will find (or at least I found) not a single mention of Ashli Babbit or the Jan 6 prisoners.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 01:33 PM (NBppC)
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On that one, they are silent. It's obvious.
But pretty much everything else, there's talk. "No Republican talking about Biden's failures or crimes!" They say a lot.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 01:33 PM (NBppC)
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On that one, they are silent. It's obvious.
But pretty much everything else, there's talk. "No Republican talking about Biden's failures or crimes!" They say a lot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (3EWns)
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (5p7BC)
456
Arizona is a question mark. It has been run my the McCain wing for so long, I don't know if you can call it red even if the Republicans win.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 01:28 PM (5p7BC)
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Arizona could easily be fixed, all it needs is getting rid of Cindy McCain, the poisonous witch. She makes sure the funny counting is in place.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at November 23, 2021 01:28 PM (5p7BC)
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Arizona could easily be fixed, all it needs is getting rid of Cindy McCain, the poisonous witch. She makes sure the funny counting is in place.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 23, 2021 01:36 PM (SRmHu)
457
453 I am not the brightest bulb out there. But I am a long time Horde member. In fact it goes back at least a decade or so. I just figured out my posts were being deleted. Or at least I can't see them.
Is that a Vpn thing or am I banned. Serious question here. I wondered about some posts being deleted when I tried out a VPN. I had it on for all net travails. Are vpns banned? or is is certain ones? I hope i am not banned personally, but if so I will abide as they say. Sorry to make a stink, I just couldn't figure why I couldn't find a single post. My guess is VPN, but if a mod can explain it I will accept it.
Posted by: Quint at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (NXntH)
I can see you.
Is that a Vpn thing or am I banned. Serious question here. I wondered about some posts being deleted when I tried out a VPN. I had it on for all net travails. Are vpns banned? or is is certain ones? I hope i am not banned personally, but if so I will abide as they say. Sorry to make a stink, I just couldn't figure why I couldn't find a single post. My guess is VPN, but if a mod can explain it I will accept it.
Posted by: Quint at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (NXntH)
I can see you.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 23, 2021 01:36 PM (z5Vrg)
458
Unfortunately, I can't get too excited with this news, knowing it won't result in serious change...just more failure theater. It will be nice to see the continued march towards a more powerful and tyrannical federal government slowed temporarily, I guess.
Posted by: Grimmy at November 23, 2021 01:05 PM (JCZqz)
Oh really?
Posted by: Grimmy at November 23, 2021 01:05 PM (JCZqz)
Oh really?
Posted by: Your friendly Patriot Act at November 23, 2021 01:36 PM (MFphb)
459
I have sat in line at traffic circles where people treat them like a 4 way stop. Honk and get all angry when you just merge in as you are supposed to.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:32 PM (Pw26M)
.........
I thought traffic circles were designed to test everyone's car horn.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:32 PM (Pw26M)
.........
I thought traffic circles were designed to test everyone's car horn.
Posted by: wth at November 23, 2021 01:36 PM (v0R5T)
460
424 People who think traffic circles only work in low traffic areas are wrong about that. There are traffic circles as you exit I-70 in Vail (Colo) that absorb big volumes of cars very well. There's more of those kinds in Massachusetts as you drive east to the Cape, and again they successfully move large volumes of cars.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (NBppC)
And then there's this one...
https://tinyurl.com/bp94xsr6
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (NBppC)
And then there's this one...
https://tinyurl.com/bp94xsr6
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:36 PM (OalnH)
461
And Bi den could invoke the insurrection clause and just cancel elections. Blame unvaxxed for the insurrection. Garland has already signaled it's white people that are real danger.
Posted by: torabora at November 23, 2021 01:37 PM (J6igU)
462
Somehow, we Massholes are able to handle them.
Posted by: fluffy at November 23, 2021 01:26 PM (UnQlg)
I don't think I've ever realized just how many of us are trapped in Massachusetts. I used to think I was the only one.
Posted by: fluffy at November 23, 2021 01:26 PM (UnQlg)
I don't think I've ever realized just how many of us are trapped in Massachusetts. I used to think I was the only one.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 23, 2021 01:37 PM (2JVJo)
463
I feel guilty every time I remember we have the 1/6 political prisoners.
Remembering means I forgot about them for a period of time.
Remembering means I forgot about them for a period of time.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 23, 2021 01:38 PM (shMPn)
464
My guess is VPN, but if a mod can explain it I will accept it.
Posted by: Quint at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (NXntH)
I'm not a mod, but I'll wager it's your VPN generating a formerly banned hash.
Posted by: Quint at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (NXntH)
I'm not a mod, but I'll wager it's your VPN generating a formerly banned hash.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 01:38 PM (ej/kX)
465
406 Hi Kallisto- I think the writers at Church Militant would probably assert that the priests who go along with this are wolf in sheep's clothing and all on board with " The Great Reset". Certainly the politicians are. I feel so badly for the priest that resigned, but I understand why he would
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 23, 2021 01:38 PM (qc8IS)
466
Welcome to the quarantine "camp", comrade.
Injection makes you free.
Posted by: Australian gubmint at November 23, 2021 01:29 PM (wQ1KQ)
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Then Austria struts onto the stage and says hold my beer.
Injection makes you free.
Posted by: Australian gubmint at November 23, 2021 01:29 PM (wQ1KQ)
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Then Austria struts onto the stage and says hold my beer.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 23, 2021 01:38 PM (SRmHu)
467
BTW, thanks to Dave in Fla. Polling rabbit-holes are a little tough for me, because aside from 40,000-foot trends I get skeptical of polling done this early (a year in advance). But despite that quibble, he always has something very good and instructive to say about voting laws and trends in all the different battleground states. I thank him for researching all those issues and keeping us current!
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 01:38 PM (NBppC)
468
370 Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (Pw26M)
it aint tough
upon approaching circle, at 200 ft, start ultimate acceleration
try and achieve between 70 to 75 mph at entrance of circle
have hand on horn
maintain speed in circle while sounding horn at 2 second intervals and use left foot to tap on brakes so as to discourage any passing interlopers
continue thru circle, using the aforesaid instructions
signaling will only interupt the approve protocols
after exiting the circle, one may cease horn function for minimal celebration for completing task.
alcohol may be involved
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:08 PM (Pw26M)
it aint tough
upon approaching circle, at 200 ft, start ultimate acceleration
try and achieve between 70 to 75 mph at entrance of circle
have hand on horn
maintain speed in circle while sounding horn at 2 second intervals and use left foot to tap on brakes so as to discourage any passing interlopers
continue thru circle, using the aforesaid instructions
signaling will only interupt the approve protocols
after exiting the circle, one may cease horn function for minimal celebration for completing task.
alcohol may be involved
Posted by: HUNTER at November 23, 2021 01:39 PM (us2H3)
469
I think it is a vpn thing. I just wondered if that they are banned or just certain common ones. I should have asked about this before when it happened a while back, but I didn't want to make an issue. whatever the rules are, I will follow them.
Posted by: Quint at November 23, 2021 01:39 PM (NXntH)
470
I'm in that minority that like traffic circles. There's one near my house at an intersection that would back up for a quarter-mile at rush hour. Now, you just glide on through even at five pm.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 23, 2021 01:39 PM (HmZuC)
471
Someone needs to post the vid of the car taking a shortcut through the traffic circle. I think it was in Britain though.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 23, 2021 01:39 PM (shMPn)
472
Jersey has jug handles. Shut up.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:33 PM
That go around in a circle. So people like you could spend an entire day go around and around pointlessly.
Jersey has jug handles. Shut up.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 23, 2021 01:33 PM
That go around in a circle. So people like you could spend an entire day go around and around pointlessly.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 23, 2021 01:40 PM (dQvv7)
473
The only thing Shovel ready about the Biden Administration is Joe Biden, himself.
Posted by: SMOD at November 23, 2021 01:40 PM (RHGPo)
474
I can drive in traffic circles but am convinced they were designed by misanthropes and I will go out of my way to avoid them
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 23, 2021 01:40 PM (qc8IS)
475
And then there's this one...
https://tinyurl.com/bp94xsr6
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:36 PM (OalnH)
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Holy crap.
https://tinyurl.com/bp94xsr6
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:36 PM (OalnH)
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Holy crap.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 01:40 PM (NBppC)
476
Do NOT underestimate the illegal voter fraud and vote stealing that will be done by the democrat-communist party.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 23, 2021 01:41 PM (iDcra)
477
still had my Hunter sock on
Posted by: REDACTED at November 23, 2021 01:41 PM (us2H3)
478
I think this all just goes to show that Lin Wood has been Professional Controlled Opposition for a long long while. He's 100% behind you because that's the best place to stab people in the back.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Dandolo Did Nothing Wrong at November 23, 2021 01:42 PM (jgJbV)
479
My guess is VPN, but if a mod can explain it I will accept it.
Posted by: Quint at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (NXntH)
I'm not a mod, but I'll wager it's your VPN generating a formerly banned hash.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 01:38 PM (ej/kX)
Happened to me. VPN though I can't r/o banned.
Posted by: Quint at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (NXntH)
I'm not a mod, but I'll wager it's your VPN generating a formerly banned hash.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 23, 2021 01:38 PM (ej/kX)
Happened to me. VPN though I can't r/o banned.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 23, 2021 01:42 PM (shMPn)
480
470 I'm in that minority that like traffic circles. There's one near my house at an intersection that would back up for a quarter-mile at rush hour. Now, you just glide on through even at five pm.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 23, 2021 01:39 PM (HmZuC)
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A few years ago my exit off the freeway was just a stop sign exit onto a busy road. Making a left turn would take forever during busy times and the backup would sometimes be back to the freeway itself, causing traffic to come to a standstill in the right lane.
The interchange was redone so it's one big traffic circle now to get on and off the freeway in all directions. Regardless of the time of day, it's as you say, glide through. No more backups, no more time waited waiting to make left turns, which were dangerous as fuck as well.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 23, 2021 01:39 PM (HmZuC)
__
A few years ago my exit off the freeway was just a stop sign exit onto a busy road. Making a left turn would take forever during busy times and the backup would sometimes be back to the freeway itself, causing traffic to come to a standstill in the right lane.
The interchange was redone so it's one big traffic circle now to get on and off the freeway in all directions. Regardless of the time of day, it's as you say, glide through. No more backups, no more time waited waiting to make left turns, which were dangerous as fuck as well.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:43 PM (OalnH)
481
477 still had my Hunter sock on
Posted by: REDACTED at November 23, 2021 01:41 PM (us2H3)
Ewwwww. Crusty.
Posted by: REDACTED at November 23, 2021 01:41 PM (us2H3)
Ewwwww. Crusty.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 23, 2021 01:43 PM (II3Gr)
482
There's a road on, I believe, the west side of Billings, Montana that is traffic circles all the way.
I preferred that, as I bypass the city, to endless traffic lights.
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 01:25 PM (cSyAR)
Shiloh Road and it sucks because you might just get up to speed before you have slow way down to make your way around the circle.
I preferred that, as I bypass the city, to endless traffic lights.
Posted by: Northernlurker at November 23, 2021 01:25 PM (cSyAR)
Shiloh Road and it sucks because you might just get up to speed before you have slow way down to make your way around the circle.
Posted by: Beartooth at November 23, 2021 01:44 PM (KTaZ8)
483
I always said Aggie engineers designed the interstate system in Austin just to screw with the Longhorns. Most confusing system in the country.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 23, 2021 01:45 PM (shMPn)
484
I remember the two questions now for PA absentee voting:
1). Will you be out of the country or state on election day
2). Do you have some medical condition which would something, something
After answering 'No' to both of them they still let you proceed.
I remember the two questions now for PA absentee voting:
1). Will you be out of the country or state on election day
2). Do you have some medical condition which would something, something
After answering 'No' to both of them they still let you proceed.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 23, 2021 01:47 PM (dQvv7)
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401 >>> Traffic circles are like libertarianism. They look great on paper, but most people are too stupid to use it correctly.
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Its basically IQ Bumper Cars. Let's find out who the slow kids are.
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Its basically IQ Bumper Cars. Let's find out who the slow kids are.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 23, 2021 01:48 PM (Hudry)
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483 I always said Aggie engineers designed the interstate system in Austin just to screw with the Longhorns. Most confusing system in the country.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 23, 2021 01:45 PM (shMPn)
Truth.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 23, 2021 01:45 PM (shMPn)
Truth.
Posted by: My name is Jose Jimanez at November 23, 2021 01:48 PM (Fs5vw)
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To: AP
https://youtu.be/Yxh-ViNhd1g
https://youtu.be/Yxh-ViNhd1g
Posted by: Chuck C at November 23, 2021 01:49 PM (EughT)
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On that one, they are silent. It's obvious.
But pretty much everything else, there's talk. "No Republican talking about Biden's failures or crimes!" They say a lot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (3EWns)
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Obvious? To you maybe. He thinks it is politically unpalatable, so he ignores the question in hopes it goes away.
On other issues, he talks But just like his political theater the other day in the House, he means not. one. word. What McCarthy believes in is nothing. Well, one thing: winning elections so you can be the one carving up the appropriations pie. That's the sum total of his ideology. His contract with America.
But pretty much everything else, there's talk. "No Republican talking about Biden's failures or crimes!" They say a lot.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, holy crap, John Ford made a lot of movies in the 1930s at November 23, 2021 01:35 PM (3EWns)
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Obvious? To you maybe. He thinks it is politically unpalatable, so he ignores the question in hopes it goes away.
On other issues, he talks But just like his political theater the other day in the House, he means not. one. word. What McCarthy believes in is nothing. Well, one thing: winning elections so you can be the one carving up the appropriations pie. That's the sum total of his ideology. His contract with America.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 23, 2021 01:49 PM (NBppC)
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wrong thread
Posted by: Chuck C at November 23, 2021 01:49 PM (EughT)
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Until I drove in one I had never seen one either. And I figured out what was happening in about 1/10 of a second. Again, if Americans are too dumb to figure it out the first time they see one, we have bigger issues than traffic.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (OalnH)
I love what Germans say about four-way stops: "ooh, they'd never work here, we would never give right of way to anyone else and we'd be crashing all the time"
Progs love traffic circles because they are a source of kickbacks for road money, they force conformity and they openly want to be Europeans.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 23, 2021 01:30 PM (OalnH)
I love what Germans say about four-way stops: "ooh, they'd never work here, we would never give right of way to anyone else and we'd be crashing all the time"
Progs love traffic circles because they are a source of kickbacks for road money, they force conformity and they openly want to be Europeans.
Posted by: Kindltot at November 23, 2021 01:53 PM (P9T5R)
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438. They work poorly. On Rte 1 near Princeton a tractor trailer flipped over on a jug handle, causing injuries. A massive fuel spill, and 6 hour shut down. We have jug handle accidents weekly.
Posted by: CN at November 23, 2021 01:58 PM (ONvIw)
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491 438. They work poorly. On Rte 1 near Princeton a tractor trailer flipped over on a jug handle, causing injuries. A massive fuel spill, and 6 hour shut down. We have jug handle accidents weekly.
Posted by: CN at November 23, 2021 01:58 PM (ONvIw)
It's almost as if perhaps one solution fits all is a bad idea and there are likely quite a few places out there that are using the wrong solution for their traffic intersection.
Posted by: CN at November 23, 2021 01:58 PM (ONvIw)
It's almost as if perhaps one solution fits all is a bad idea and there are likely quite a few places out there that are using the wrong solution for their traffic intersection.
Posted by: Buzzion at November 23, 2021 02:02 PM (cFsny)
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492 Jug handles and heavy truck traffic are poor mix.
Posted by: CN at November 23, 2021 02:06 PM (ONvIw)
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What 2022 will tell us is if Dems are able to steal votes in smaller and more rural areas, or if they're still stuck just stuffing ballot boxes in a few major cities.
We know in 2020 that was the case, as somehow a Trump loss happened with Racism gains pretty much everywhere else (on non-statewide elections)
We know in 2020 that was the case, as somehow a Trump loss happened with Racism gains pretty much everywhere else (on non-statewide elections)
Posted by: Rbastid at November 23, 2021 02:19 PM (zDsJL)
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No self respecting or nominally self aware Party would have as its 'leader' a feckless, nutless, gutless fake like Kevin McCarthy.
Posted by: Voter theater. at November 23, 2021 02:32 PM (FCPbW)
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Jesus, I can't believe I'm reading someone who probably thinks he leans Right tell us how bad the Electiontheftocrats are gonna Lose Bigly at the polls next year.
This is the Q psyop without the cloak and dagger element. None of the election-theft mechanics have been removed from the game. Will you scratch your head in wonder when they stop counting ballots at 9 PM Central? Will it be a big shock when Dominion declares the Will of the People the next morning and nothing has changed?
This is the Q psyop without the cloak and dagger element. None of the election-theft mechanics have been removed from the game. Will you scratch your head in wonder when they stop counting ballots at 9 PM Central? Will it be a big shock when Dominion declares the Will of the People the next morning and nothing has changed?
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 23, 2021 02:38 PM (ZZFJB)
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Mmmmmm, I'm dubious about that.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (yTMfZ)
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#intentional
Some people will always assume the best intentions of others, regardless of how often they get intentionally clubbed in the face by others.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 23, 2021 12:22 PM (yTMfZ)
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#intentional
Some people will always assume the best intentions of others, regardless of how often they get intentionally clubbed in the face by others.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 23, 2021 02:42 PM (ZZFJB)
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I'm just asking the big boy adult question - at what effing point will you admit to yourself that the Republic is over? How many Americans have to lose their jobs?
Will you get there when people are starving to death? Or are those the broken eggs required for an American omelet?
Will you get there when people are starving to death? Or are those the broken eggs required for an American omelet?
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 23, 2021 02:44 PM (ZZFJB)
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Trump should run for Congress from Florida. He'd easily win any race there, and with the likely Republican sweep in 2022, he'll become Speaker of the House. The MAGA agenda can proceed, without him having to worry about the delicate sensibilities of suburban wine moms, or places like Philadelphia manufacturing last minute mail in votes.
Posted by: Me Again at November 23, 2021 03:13 PM (Izzlo)
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Thank God we will take back the house and pass sweeping Troon legislation. Then we will do a great big amnesty to let all the squatalamalan indios to rape and murder White children and drive drunk. Then we will cut taxes to enrich all the billionaires who hate us so we can get back on social media. Then we must let all negroes out of prison so they can prey on White women and children. Up next MAP legislation to make pedophilia legal getting the jump on the dems real racists by using dems real heterosexual thereby turning GOP into hive of sodomy. G.rand O.le P.inworm forever. Sodomy required bigots. We will never lose another election with our coalition for Troons, negroes, Goblinos, Sodomites, and pedophiles. Remember demsrealheterosexual is the new demsrealracist .
Posted by: Borzoi Respector at November 23, 2021 04:55 PM (tjieG)
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Be careful...so much socio-economic damage has been accomplished by now since pResident Penetrating Fingers was installed that Demonrats would absolutely LOVE a final collapse under a Repukelic leadership to take the blame...
Posted by: Ju at November 23, 2021 04:58 PM (5rsf5)
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First you said,
"There will be more Marjorie Green's and Lauren Boebert's next year."
This already got me super excited! :-)
Then you had to follow up with this gem...
"Back in March a question was asked regarding the Democrat plans to win the midterms. The Democrats had planned to run on a booming economy and world stability.
Let that sink in."
I'm letting that sink in, like me into a hot jacuzzi...with a beer in one hand and my wife in the other arm... ohhh that feels soo good!
On a more serious note, how in the eff did the Dems plan on a booming economy and world stability?!?! Even those in power know their crap doesn't work! They are just catering to their power bases of mishmashed grievance groups, which are all at odds with anything close to a productive functioning environment.
"There will be more Marjorie Green's and Lauren Boebert's next year."
This already got me super excited! :-)
Then you had to follow up with this gem...
"Back in March a question was asked regarding the Democrat plans to win the midterms. The Democrats had planned to run on a booming economy and world stability.
Let that sink in."
I'm letting that sink in, like me into a hot jacuzzi...with a beer in one hand and my wife in the other arm... ohhh that feels soo good!
On a more serious note, how in the eff did the Dems plan on a booming economy and world stability?!?! Even those in power know their crap doesn't work! They are just catering to their power bases of mishmashed grievance groups, which are all at odds with anything close to a productive functioning environment.
Posted by: Janir at November 23, 2021 05:45 PM (7FTeO)
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Democrats paying the Price
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at November 23, 2021 06:17 PM (wGqjj)
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m advice to Republican candidates----don't talk about fraud and the last election at all. when questioned, say, "That election is over. This election is about the future of America" and then pound home the points you are running on.
S/b
-School choice
-lower taxes.
-less regulation
S/b
-School choice
-lower taxes.
-less regulation
Posted by: jeff at November 23, 2021 06:42 PM (nf4HY)
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I'm thankful that Dems are taking on water big time in swing states in the early polls for '22. I'm also happy that my thankfulness is putting a great big pain in the media's collective lying ass on this upcoming Thankful holiday.
Posted by: FatAlbert at November 23, 2021 07:02 PM (uEauf)
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What I'm worried about is the cheat, specifically the GOPe doing nothing to stop it, and the emergence of Moochelle Obama as Kamala's replacement right before the midterms. She'd re-energize the listless dems, and go in the 24 election as the sitting 1st Black woman president. Because Joe will tragically stroke out right after Moochelle is sworn in as Veep.
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