Quick! Get those mandates in place NOW before science makes the vaccines obsolete

Biden and Team Brandon are going to have to work fast to get their vaccine mandates in place, or science may overtake any remaining thin-as-old-onion-skin paper rationales for requiring everyone to take the vaccines they present as the "settled (except for inconsequential details) science". Assurances of the lasting effectiveness of the vaccines have waned remarkably, and we have learned that the jabs do not prevent transmission of the virus. And here comes another blow to the last remaining, desperate rationale - - namely that only the vaccines can protect us from serious illness and prevent hospital overflows:

Long-lasting protection - - but not by a vaccine:

Regeneron Pharmaceuticals today announced the results from a Phase 3 trial jointly run with the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), which assessed the use of a single dose of investigational REGEN-COV, a monoclonal antibodies drug, to prevent COVID-19 in uninfected individuals.
The new analyses show REGEN-COV reduced the risk of contracting COVID-19 (i.e., laboratory-confirmed symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections) by 81.6% during the pre-specified follow-up period (months 2 - 8 ), maintaining the 81.4% risk reduction during the first month after administration, which was previously reported in The New England Journal of Medicine.

This trial was conducted with the same active ingredients that are used in Regeneron's infusions which Ron DeSantis promoted by, among other things, setting up infusion centers. But in this trial of prophylactic use, the antibodies were delivered by subcutaneous injections, not infusions. I'm not sure if there is anything in the delivery system that makes a difference in action between the infusion and injection.

Eight months sounds better than the current 5 months or so of protection from the vaccines. Maybe less. And eight months was the end of the study. Not necessarily the end of protection by the antibodies.

From the press release:

During the 8-month assessment period there were 0 hospitalizations for COVID-19 in the REGEN-COV group and 6 in the placebo group. . .
In results previously published, the trial met its primary endpoint, reducing the risk of COVID-19 (i.e., laboratory-confirmed symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections) by 81.4% within 1 month of receiving REGEN-COV (p<0.0001). The new results released today describe a pre-specified analysis for the following 7 months, throughout which an additional 45 symptomatic infections occurred. During this time period, REGEN-COV continued to prevent infection, without requiring additional doses.

The trial, which was fully enrolled in early 2021, allowed participants to become vaccinated if they wished once the primary efficacy treatment period (month 1) was complete. Vaccination rates during the months 2-8 assessment period were balanced, with 34.5% (n=290) of the REGEN-COV group and 35.2% (n=296) of the placebo group receiving at least 1 COVID-19 vaccine dose by the end of the 8-month assessment period.
. . . During the initial high-risk period related to household transmission, the rate of COVID-19 (in the absence of protection with REGEN-COV) was 13-fold higher than during the subsequent period of ongoing transmission: during month 1, the rate of COVID-19 in the placebo group was 8.3% per month; and during months 2-8 it decreased to 0.6% per month on average.
During the 8-month assessment period, 0 individuals in the REGEN-COV group were hospitalized due to COVID-19, compared to 6 individuals in the placebo group (1 person in the first month; 5 people during months 2 - 8 ).

"In this trial, a single dose of REGEN-COV provided long-term protection against COVID-19, including times of particularly high risk from household exposure, and in the longer-term during ongoing broader exposure," said George D. Yancopoulos, M.D., Ph.D., President and Chief Scientific Officer at Regeneron. "These data add to the increasing body of evidence supporting use of REGEN-COV to prevent COVID-19 in uninfected individuals, which may be especially useful for the many immunocompromised people who do not respond adequately to vaccines and remain 'prisoners of the pandemic.' . . ."

Regeneron is making nice with the FDA and NIAID, saying that this product is not a substitute for vaccination. Though it clearly protected both vaccinated and unvaccinated people in this study. This product has not yet received provisional approval for pre-exposure prophylaxis. And approval for post-exposure prophylaxis is limited. But how long do you think it will be before people find out that this valuable treatment is being withheld from them?

Other Antibody Products for COVID-19

There is at least one company I had never heard of before out there testing injectable antibody products for COVID-19, including for pre-exposure prophylaxis. I think there may be more than one such company working toward authorization of a product in the USA at this time, at the clinical trial stage.

A while ago, I kept getting social media invitations to sign up for a clinical trial (or trials) of an injectable antibody formulation. I think I got these invitations because I live in a low-income area with low vaccine acceptance.

One product was developed with the idea that a single injection could be used either for long-term pre-exposure prophylaxis or for early treatment. It was also in clinical trials overseas, and was hyped as a low-cost alternative to vaccines in the third world. Of course, they were also pursuing emergency use authorization in the USA. Gotta make some dollars to support selling it elsewhere.

Promoters mentioned that it should be effective against future mutations of the virus. I don't know why. They were not real forthcoming about that part. Or about what else was in the injection. Otherwise (except for the placebo), sounded like a fun trial!

Have you heard any details on products like these? There is some possibility that I have combined details from promotional pieces from two different companies I had never heard of before above. The ads disappear if there is no response.

One of these companies was running two separate trials on the same product - one for prophylaxis and another for early treatment.

What about the Merck pill?

Well, it is for early treatment, not for prophylaxis, but the UK authorized it last week. Should keep some people out of the hospital. Both vaccinated and unvaccinated.

I was surprised to learn not long ago how many doctors remained ignorant of the possibility of monoclonal antibody treatments for their patients. You would think that primary care physicians, in particular, would have been carefully informed about this by the health authorities, since the recommended alternative treatment was basically "just stay home until you are ready to go to the hospital."

If the FDA approves the Merck product, do you think doctors will hear about it?

The FDA is not even meeting to consider approval until November 30, even though the phase 3 trial was stopped early because of deaths in the placebo group, and even though the government has already paid for a stock of this medication.

If you stop a clinical trial because untreated people were dying, shouldn't you show some urgency with regard to allowing other people to be treated?

The government paid for a stock of the monoclonal antibodies quite a while ago, too, yet information about them didn't get to many doctors. People died.

The Merck product, in my view, is not all roses and lollipops.
It works by producing mutations in viral RNA. It has potential for carcinogenicity, and I don't know how much testing has been done. I think there was a time, when laws were different, when this compound would not have been pursued as a therapeutic product.

But how do you weigh the (unknown) risks of cancer against the benefits of protecting against serious disease or death from the virus (particularly in older people who may not face much future cancer risk)?

Maybe on an individual basis? That's not how regulatory agencies think. As a general rule.

The Pfizer pill is probably coming up for approval, too

Pfizer announced that its pill to treat Covid-19 dramatically reduced the risk of hospitalization and death when given soon after symptoms of the virus appear.

In clinical trials of antiviral treatment, which included 775 high-risk adult patients, individuals were given a course of 30 pills over five days. When given within three days of the start of Covid-19 symptoms, the antiviral pills cut the risk of hospitalization or death by 89 percent. The group of patients in the clinical trial that received the drug had no deaths compared to seven deaths in the group that received placebo. According to Pfizer, an independent board of experts closely watching the clinical trial for the drug recommended that the study be stopped early because the drug's benefit to patients had proved so convincing . . .

Same thing happened with the Merck pill.

UPDATE: Since this post was stomped yesterday, it gives me an opportunity to comment on some of the Pfizer-related information in the sidebar from yesterday.

You may want to keep a link to (or the PDF from) the TABLET piece discussed in last Saturday's post handy, if only for a careful summary of what we have been told about COVID-19 since its appearance. The TABLET piece provides some possible insight (besides degradation and corruption) into why that doctor on NBC gets away with lying so outrageously about the number of kids who have died from COVID-19, at least among the personnel at the network. Pharmaceutical companies, government, health care and media were already untrusted entities before the virus hit. He is just continuing the established pattern. Some people filter their statements, some do not.

Thanks to Tami for the tip that the CEO of Pfizer said he thinks people who "spread misinformation" on the COVID-19 vaccines are criminals. He's not JUST being self-serving. He really believes that. Most likely. Of course, he is not thinking of people who have shared pro-vaccine misinformation that makes people distrust the vaccines. Or of drug companies or governments which have been guilty of unethical conduct in the past, making people distrust their current messages.

Pfizer followed up on the CEO's comment by saying that "science has your back". The thought processes of people who think that ONLY NOW can they share "science" to combat "misinformation" through cartoon memes is inscrutable to me.

But it is also interesting that the push to inoculate children is so strong just before Pfizer is poised to introduce an oral tablet that may make their vaccine unnecessary for many adults who would prefer another option to taking the Pfizer vaccine every 6 months or so (as far as we can predict).

I think the PR people at Pfizer with the cartoon memes could use some help from Biden and Team Brandon in pushing those vaccine mandates. Who is the target audience here? Who hired the people who created this "scientific" message?

Show me on this doll where science touched you

And thanks to J.J. Sefton for this link quoting the Pfizer CEO:

Atlantic Council CEO Frederick Kempe said, "There was some fake news during this period of time about the vaccines, all sorts of conspiracy theories. How did you deal with that, and how did you navigate that? Where do you feel the primary source of this sort of fake news was? How damaging was this to us?"
Bourla said, "I'm afraid it was quite a lot damaging. There was particularly with us we were targeted by a lot of, let's say, dark organizations that you don't really know the ownership, you suspect there are some countries behind. We were getting a lot of briefings from CIA, from FBI about attacks that may happen to us, cyber attacks I mean and also about spread of misinformation."
. . . Bourla continued, "There is a very small part of professionals which they circulate on purpose misinformation so that they will mislead those that have concerns. Those people are criminals. . .

I get that promotional materials for pharmaceutical products are subject to FDA review and all. Believe me. But still, couldn't they have found a way to counter such alleged "misinformation" and "conspiracy theories" at the time they came out, with "REAL" information - not just with labels and denials?

Would transparency and maybe even starting some conversations have worked better?

And even now, what if Pfizer arranged to have NBC correct the numbers of that doctor who wildly over-reported the number of child deaths from COVID in his NBC commentary? Wouldn't that increase peoples' confidence in Pfizer more than cartoon memes?

I think the real target of this campaign against "misinformation" is health care professionals. This is from September:

Every doctor i know today got an email from their medical board threatening to revoke their license if they "spread misinformation" about COVID vaccines. The boards get to define "misinformation" however they choose. Is it "misinformation" to discuss known serious adverse rxns ?

One doctor's response to the notice he got:

I respectfully request that you email to me in writing a list of what you consider to be misinformation regarding the COVID-19 vaccinations. . .

You never know when the "shifting sands of COVID information and recommendations" could lead to something you said yesterday becoming misinformation today. You could suddenly become a criminal. Better not say anything at all to your patients. Just follow the program.

For our science nerds

Predicting which healthy young people are likely to develop severe COVID-19 symptoms: It could be in the genes.

I have a suspicion that sometimes we are seeing a robust (but damaging) immunological response and calling it "severe COVID-19 symptoms". Or there could be something unusual about the immunological response in certain people.

Treat early.

But how would a doctor know if you are one of those high-risk, young healthy people before the research above is done? Would you qualify for the new treatments coming online, or should you to rely on things like "horse dewormer"?

Anybody heard anything new about fenofibrate?

In the Pipeline

Okay, this is not too far along in the pipeline, and it is a new vaccine technology:
oral tablet vaccines for respiratory diseases like COVID-19 and influenza. They did a Phase II study of an oral influenza vaccine in Costa Mesa back in 2016-17. Published last year in The Lancet.

They actually challenged subjects with influenza virus. This is the human influenza study. Phase 2. The oral vaccine was tested against an injected vaccine and a placebo (the placebo group was smaller).

The most prevalent solicited adverse events for each of the treatment groups after immunisation were headache in the VXA-A1.1 (in five [7%] of 70 participants) and placebo (in seven [19%] of 36 participants) groups and tenderness at injection site in the IIV group (in 19 [26%] of 72 participants) Influenza-positive illness after challenge was detected in 17 (29%) of 58 individuals in the VXA-A1.1 group, 19 (35%) of 54 in the IIV group, and 15 (48%) of 31 in the placebo group.

Sounds about par for the course for influenza vaccines: 29% infected in the treatment group, 48% in the placebo group. At least it was a little better than the injected vaccine. If it had be statistically significantly better, they would have said so.

Animal studies with COVID-19 oral (or nasal) vaccine look promising. Infected hamsters which had been inoculated with the oral or nasal vaccine were less likely to infect other hamsters downwind than unvaccinated hamsters.

The mucosal vaccines appear to reduce viral shedding (in striking contrast, probably, to the present injected vaccines). Is there anything concerning about this technology?

It is possible that anti-microbial mouthwashes could also reduce viral transmission. That's a simple thing.

Meanwhile, the French health authority advises that people under 30 not take the Moderna vaccine.

I don't think the "settled science" is going to stay settled.

Apologies from Ace: I was posting from the road yesterday afternoon and didn't realize that K.T. had posted. When I go out, I get all of my posts in order and then set alarms on my phone to go off when it's time to post them. Then as each alarm goes off, I just hit "Post." I didn't check the blog to see if anyone had posted.

So I'm posting this today because it's a Meaty, Girthy post, and didn't get the attention it deserved yesterday.

Note to Ace: See what happens when you stomp my post? It gets girthier. Hope nobody gets lost.

Another Note from Ace: Thanks K.T.

To trial-watchers: You can keep commenting in the trial thread below, but Littlefinger is too tedious to keep that as the top post. I'm drifting.

Posted by: K.T. at 03:15 PM

Comments

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 09, 2021 04:02 PM (bVYXr)

2 And not getting a booster.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 09, 2021 04:02 PM (bVYXr)

3 Anyone else here?

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 09, 2021 04:03 PM (bVYXr)

4 I don't think the "settled science" is going to stay settled.

It will for the cultists.

And masks are never going away.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2021 04:04 PM (2JVJo)

5 Animal studies with COVID-19 oral (or nasal) vaccine look promising. Infected hamsters which had been inoculated with the oral or nasal vaccine were less likely to infect other hamsters downwind than unvaccinated hamsters.

Oh no! Someone protect the Pixy servers!

Posted by: Flyguy at November 09, 2021 04:04 PM (3sOO0)

6 I was a bit hesitant to click "nood man dates".

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 09, 2021 04:05 PM (dfRN6)

7 For protection lasting longer than four hours contact your doctor.

Posted by: Eromero at November 09, 2021 04:05 PM (0OP+5)

8
Did you see the probe-boner fake psa?

It "stars" an ex-SNL cast member, and has fake "experts" who claim the chinese flu causes erectile dysfunction....so get vaccinated!

But, get this, the psa is not supposed to be a joke.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2021 04:05 PM (eBtHG)

9 Natural immunity for the win

Posted by: MikeM at November 09, 2021 04:05 PM (q3OJ4)

10
pro-boner

Do not probe boners.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2021 04:05 PM (eBtHG)

11 It is possible that anti-microbial mouthwashes could also reduce viral transmission. That's a simple thing.

Listerine? LISTER-friggin-INE?!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2021 04:06 PM (s2VJv)

12 Keep getting vaccinated lefties. Don't let anyone talk you out of immortality.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 09, 2021 04:06 PM (AtfPU)

13 I'm gonna wash that mandate ouuta my hair and send it on its way!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 09, 2021 04:06 PM (UHVv4)

14 Not getting a booster, since I never got the first jab.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 09, 2021 04:06 PM (ZnsQq)

15 Alcohol, like in Listerine, kills bacteria - does it also kill viruses?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2021 04:06 PM (ESjRY)

16 I applied for a job at Regeneron once. Never got a call back.

BAHSTAHDS!

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 09, 2021 04:07 PM (OalnH)

17
"Law of the land!"
"Settled law!"

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 09, 2021 04:07 PM (eBtHG)

18 12 Keep getting vaccinated lefties. Don't let anyone talk you out of immortality.
Posted by: Boss Moss at November 09, 2021 04:06 PM (AtfPU)

If all the Karens and all the Comrades dropped dead from Bell's Palsy a la Newsom, I'd say it's a fair trade off for the past 20 months.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2021 04:07 PM (s2VJv)

19 Unless I'm misreading that study summary, it involved 1,683 people. That's pretty small taters for drawing dramatic epidemiological conclusions.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2021 04:07 PM (QU5/8)

20 Wrote downstairs, hopefully other western countries stop this Fake Vax on children because our Marxists won't stop for anything.

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2021 04:07 PM (2JoB8)

21 My body, my choice.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 09, 2021 04:07 PM (AtfPU)

22 Mercury was once considered safe and used as a disinfectant, laxative, cure for syphilis, and even as a pill for immortality.

Posted by: f'd at November 09, 2021 04:08 PM (Tnijr)

23 I saw some weird German music video (thanks youtube).

The singers were dressed up as...NAZIs? I think. And they were forcing people to get injections with a STRONG sexual theme along with other weird sex stuff.

I'd say that's a pretty strong "clot shots are bad!" vibe but these are Germans, maybe they really do like that kind of crap.

Posted by: Obligatory at November 09, 2021 04:08 PM (ESjRY)

24 Bigfoot nood.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 09, 2021 04:08 PM (nfrXX)

25 13 I'm gonna wash that mandate ouuta my hair and send it on its way!
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 09, 2021 04:06 PM (UHVv4)

"Bloody Fauci is the -- churl I love,
now ain't that too damn bad . . . "

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2021 04:08 PM (s2VJv)

26 Posted by: Soothsayer
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So the coof causes men to...not rise to their fullest potential.

So they need to get the jab to rise to full staff.

Uh huh.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 09, 2021 04:09 PM (ZnsQq)

27 15 Alcohol, like in Listerine, kills bacteria - does it also kill viruses?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2021 04:06 PM
Oh no. Down to 1/2 bottle of saki here.

Posted by: Eromero at November 09, 2021 04:09 PM (0OP+5)

28 Biden and Team Brandon are going to have to work fast to get their vaccine mandates in place, or science may overtake any remaining thin-as-old-onion-skin paper rationales for requiring everyone to take the vaccines they present as the "settled (except for inconsequential details) science".
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You think they care or won't just pivot to mandating something else people may not want or need? They will. It's how the damn thing is structured. It is an ideal scenario for bad or arbitrary behavior. Take the contractor vaccine mandate. It doesn't exist, not as such. There's an EO demanding that "appropriate measures" be taken. What are those measures? They're not defined in the EO - they're farmed out to a "task force." The task force said that means "fully vaccinated." The director of the OMB signed off on it. Now there's a vax mandate.

If the task force changes its mind and says monoclonal antibodies are now "appropriate measures," then those become mandatory as well as soon as OMB signs off on it. Or if they say Ivermectin is "appropriate." Or the various pills. Whatever. The mandates are here to stay, and there is no accountability. It's a dream for the power mad.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2021 04:09 PM (DU+/6)

29 Yeah some are more susceptible

Cytokine storms and the Spanish Influenza bear this out.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 04:09 PM (JcqA0)

30 Does it give any protection against sand flies?

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at November 09, 2021 04:10 PM (TNyrE)

31 When did vaccines become another word for a palliative?

Oh right, Pfizer and Moderna gotta sell their snake oil.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 09, 2021 04:10 PM (JcqA0)

32 @disclosetv 40m

JUST IN - Pfizer asks FDA for "emergency use authorization" for its #COVID19 "booster shot" for all adults ages 18+ in the United States.

Because the vaccine we got the EUA for sucks.

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2021 04:10 PM (cF8AT)

33 I see you used the word vaccine alot, ace. Every prophylactic treatmemt is considered a vaccine now. The long term goal is to get away from using the spike protein as it is the toxin causing most of the issues,imho.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at November 09, 2021 04:10 PM (b+v9B)

34
Bloody Fauci's chewin' beagle guts.
He is always chewin' beagle guts.
He is always chewin' beagle nuts.
He is always chewin' beagle guts.
And he don't use Pepsodent!
Now ain't that too damn bad!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2021 04:10 PM (s2VJv)

35 Which is more racist, the virus or the "vaccines?"

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 09, 2021 04:10 PM (+xGNi)

36 Magic!!! A cure for the flu!

Posted by: MikeN at November 09, 2021 04:11 PM (cQOYp)

37 J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2021 04:06 PM

From what I have read, Listerine or the ones with cetylpyridinium chloride. The latter has some in vitro work behind it.

Posted by: KT at November 09, 2021 04:11 PM (0ghg2)

38 If all the Karens and all the Comrades dropped dead from Bell's Palsy a la Newsom, I'd say it's a fair trade off for the past 20 months.

Deaths and hospitalizations from non-COVID causes are way up. The FNM won't look into why and the Biden junta certainly isn't because all of the potential causes say the lock down/clot shot regime is bad for everyone.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2021 04:11 PM (ESjRY)

39 I had a sore throat and some coughing/sneezing last week.

Cold?
Allergies?
Coof?

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 09, 2021 04:11 PM (ZnsQq)

40 Mercury was once considered safe and used as [a [...] cure for syphilis,
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Newfangled shit. A heated silver wire was good enough for great-grandpa, it's good enough for me.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 09, 2021 04:11 PM (UHVv4)

41
It is possible that anti-microbial mouthwashes could also reduce viral transmission. That's a simple thing.

When I was sure I had the covid I diluted some zinc tablets in a large glass of water and sipped it all day. Sore throat disappeared in no time. Yes, zinc does taste like ass. Not that I have such a tasting experience, but you know, look were I'm posting from. Not exactly the benign Sisters of Immaculate Conception web site.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 09, 2021 04:12 PM (dQvv7)

42 37 From what I have read, Listerine or the ones with cetylpyridinium chloride. The latter has some in vitro work behind it.
Posted by: KT at November 09, 2021 04:11 PM (0ghg2)

I just get angrier and angrier and angrier and . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2021 04:12 PM (s2VJv)

43 Jamaica Queens at November 09, 2021 04:10 PM

The ones favored by the govt. are based on the spike protein. Those are the only ones they are mandating.

Posted by: KT at November 09, 2021 04:12 PM (0ghg2)

44 It is possible that anti-microbial mouthwashes could also reduce viral transmission. That's a simple thing.

Listerine? LISTER-friggin-INE?!

--

I've been doing Listerine as a preventative for several months now. The gold colored one, the one that sterilizes your mouth to the nth degree. Makes sense to me!

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2021 04:13 PM (sVtYq)

45 40 Mercury was once considered safe and used as [a [...] cure for syphilis,
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Newfangled shit. A heated silver wire was good enough for great-grandpa, it's good enough for me.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 09, 2021 04:11 PM (UHVv4)

"Ah so...."

- - The Japanese Peenee Pusher

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2021 04:13 PM (s2VJv)

46 If all the Karens and all the Comrades dropped dead from Bell's Palsy a la Newsom, I'd say it's a fair trade off for the past 20 months.

There are a couple of people very close to me who got the shot despite my protests. I don't want anything to happen to them.

But the regular, mask Nazi Massholes and their fellow travelers? I'm out of fucks to give.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 09, 2021 04:13 PM (2JVJo)

47 I had a sore throat and some coughing/sneezing last week.

Early on the FNM made a big deal out of asymptomatic COVID spreaders.

The data came out convincingly that you can't spread COVID if you don't have symptoms (caveat if you are hoped up on cold medicine you probably can), but that never answered the question as to whether most people are asymptomatic after getting COVID - which would mean that most people are flat out immune to it, or if it was just due to the unreliable PCR tests.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 09, 2021 04:13 PM (ESjRY)

48 Gee. I wonder if this stuff can be used for parasites or worms?

Asking for a horse I know.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 09, 2021 04:13 PM (Tfp/g)

49 There are a couple of people very close to me who got the shot despite my protests. I don't want anything to happen to them.
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Same here.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 09, 2021 04:13 PM (ZnsQq)

50 You can't believe anything they say. It is all political and grift.

Posted by: WiNO at November 09, 2021 04:14 PM (EpDzw)

51 My big question: a proper vaccine trains your body to create its own immune response that hopefully lasts a long time (T and B cell stuff, not just active antibodies.)

Do monoclonal treatments and the like activate your own immune system? Do they protect you from serious illness while your own immune system can respond to "wild" virus?

Posted by: MW at November 09, 2021 04:14 PM (u33s0)

52 bear with asymmetrical balls at November 09, 2021 04:07 PM

Agree. But this is an emergency. Heh. And I expect there is information concerning severity of infection, etc. that is not reflected in the summary.

Posted by: KT at November 09, 2021 04:15 PM (0ghg2)

53 Coof! Coof! Figure in a year it will be done! The jabs will be gone. I imagine the antibody treatment will be the thing. Seems the jab is headed out. Long term it will be endemic and just another cold virus.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 09, 2021 04:15 PM (0OmEj)

54 If they made a pill to stave off the virus and, as a side effect, give me a four-hour boner, I'd take it!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 09, 2021 04:15 PM (+xGNi)

55 The Marxists will fight tooth and nail to keep Covid going, it's their single hold on power, and they have maybe 1/2 the population in absolute fear of it.

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2021 04:15 PM (2JoB8)

56 The mouthwash has been on the FLCCC page for a while.

Error

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2021 04:16 PM (cF8AT)

57 Mercury was once considered safe and used as [a [...] cure for syphilis,

Verily everyone must taketh the mercury, for this is the very heart of science. or do thou wishith to die from the lover's pox?

And if you will not taketh the vial of healing mercury off with your head peasant! My penis is only protected if yours is as well!

Posted by: Lord Fauci in the middle ages at November 09, 2021 04:16 PM (ESjRY)

58 Bloody Fauci's chewin' beagle guts.
He is always chewin' beagle guts.
He is always chewin' beagle nuts.
He is always chewin' beagle guts.
And he don't use Pepsodent!
Now ain't that too damn bad!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2021 04:10 PM (s2VJv)

My 16 year old self was in a high school production of South Pacific. Otherwise, that comment would have sailed right over my head. Glad it didn't -- its a good one!!

Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2021 04:16 PM (mZUr4)

59 Error? ok...

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp- content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus- Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2021 04:17 PM (cF8AT)

60 @disclosetv 40m

JUST IN - Pfizer asks FDA for "emergency use authorization" for its #COVID19 "booster shot" for all adults ages 18+ in the United States.

Because the vaccine we got the EUA for sucks.
Posted by: Tami at November 09, 2021 04:10 PM (cF8AT)

That's because it was never a vaccine. Maybe in the far future someone will figure how many people they actually killed with the jabs.

Posted by: WiNO at November 09, 2021 04:19 PM (EpDzw)

61 MW at November 09, 2021 04:14 PM

I have no idea if monoclonals "train" your body to produce antibodies. One of the promos I got from the newer companies trying to do trials on antibody products made some references to a proprietary delivery system. Made me nervous.

Posted by: KT at November 09, 2021 04:19 PM (0ghg2)

62 Warning. If after taking the Regeneron and all Covid symptoms disappear but you have a 4 hour boner then call up your nearest Karen to assail you for you not being considerate of other peoples health.

That should wilt that lil worm in a flash.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 09, 2021 04:19 PM (Tfp/g)

63 There's another thread above this. Posted 4 minutes after this. Problem with the space/time continuum??

Posted by: Doof at November 09, 2021 04:21 PM (mZUr4)

64 If you get the covid infection but are able to keep the symptoms to a low level, when you are over it you will also now have immunity to the virus of the class you got.

Just because you helped the immune system along doesn't mean it up and stopped doing it's thing.

In fact it's been said that medicine primarily is to keep a person alive while their body heals it.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 09, 2021 04:22 PM (Tfp/g)

65 " Maybe in the far future someone will figure how many people they actually killed with the jabs.
Posted by: WiNO at November 09, 2021 04:19 PM (EpDzw) "

no, that's why they are intentionally munging the raw data.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (ahosz) at November 09, 2021 04:22 PM (ahosz)

66 no, that's why they are intentionally munging the raw data.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (ahosz) at November 09, 2021 04:22 PM (ahosz)
++++
That hurts for sure. You could still make some decent extrapolations and assessments, though, by examining the unclean over time.

This is why I think, insofar as there *is* an actual strategy (I think there isn't much of one in reality), the strategy is "ensure there is no control group against which to compare."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2021 04:24 PM (DU+/6)

67 JJ giving Muldoon a run

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2021 04:24 PM (2JoB8)

68 I think,KT, I dix not explain my hypothesis well. They used the spike because it is an easier political sell: the vax is focused like a laser beam blah blah blah. All the anticipated BS has happened, except ADE, and so they need to move away from jabbing everybody every six months which is politically stupid.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at November 09, 2021 04:32 PM (b+v9B)

69 So they're really at the "boner pill" stage of promotion of the clot show now? LOL

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 09, 2021 04:33 PM (cSs/W)

70 Hiya KT !

Posted by: JT at November 09, 2021 04:34 PM (arJlL)

71 >The long term goal is to get away from using the spike protein as it is the toxin causing most of the issues,imho.
Posted by: Jamaica Queens at November 09, 2021 04:10 PM (b+v9B)

Yeah, the S protein is a horrific pathogen, so let's hijack your body's machinery to have it produce mass amounts of it for circulation around your body. Sign me right the fuck up.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 09, 2021 04:35 PM (cSs/W)

72 We are willowed that quick

Posted by: Skip at November 09, 2021 04:36 PM (2JoB8)

73 Jamaica Queens at November 09, 2021 04:32 PM

So you think they are changing terminology to conform with political reality?

I still see a push (maybe temporary) to force the spike protein vaccines specifically, in order to get regulations in place.

Posted by: KT at November 09, 2021 04:37 PM (0ghg2)

74 Hiya, JT!

Posted by: KT at November 09, 2021 04:38 PM (0ghg2)

75 Maybe just try to keep a high enough BAH so the bugs can't live in you?

BRB...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 09, 2021 04:38 PM (BFigT)

76 They have created a malaria level of fear for a flu level of threat.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at November 09, 2021 04:41 PM (b+v9B)

77 This auburn-haired lady wearing olive drab and fingering some impressive hardware isn't enthusiastic about vax mandates or whatever other mandates are surely coming down the pike:
https://is.gd/nW1eut

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 09, 2021 04:42 PM (DU+/6)

78 They can't back track on jabs, so, eventually, everybody will get one. I will get the J&J soon because my body is rotting away not going to the gym. They do have to find a way to manage Karen's day to day fear of Covid. They changed the vax definition to merely a treatment to reflect the reality of Covids obdurance.
It's bullshit all the way down. 1Samuel 8 keeps showing up on my reading list.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at November 09, 2021 04:49 PM (b+v9B)

79 It's not a jab, vax, shot or vaccine. It is an mRNA injection.

Posted by: Regular joe at November 09, 2021 05:11 PM (fvaaX)

80
HOW DARE YOU ATTEMPT TO DERAIL THE IMPLEMENTATION OF PFIZERMECTIN, THE ONLY TRUE, RELIABLE, AND OBSCENELY PROFITABLE TREATMENT FOR THE COOF!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 09, 2021 05:22 PM (3l5Yq)

81 wait, the Regeneron shot reduces the chances of INFECTION by over 80%- so , unlike the "vax" it actually reduces your chances of even getting infected ? am I reading that right

if so , roll this out NOW

I know Florida made wide use of the MA infusions - their death rate is down to almost 0,with infections plummeting

Posted by: Big Star at November 09, 2021 05:40 PM (Modkf)

82 SubQ Regeneron! That's a game changer. I do an infusion every two weeks of another med. Maybe I could just order up some Regeneron from Amazon and add it to the mix.

Posted by: APJ at November 09, 2021 06:22 PM (G1dq6)

83 I feel compelled to comment just because it's a post that doesn't exist (yet? anymore? Idunno).

Posted by: Cortillaen at November 09, 2021 07:32 PM (4Acrv)

84 Good afternoon everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 10, 2021 03:17 PM (mD/uy)

85 It's led to alot of anti-vaxx Pfizer memes now too so backfiring badly.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 10, 2021 03:17 PM (UHVv4)

86 Deja vu?

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 10, 2021 03:17 PM (DTX3h)

87 Two years - no vax....right next to the biggest chinatown on the planet....
No issues.
Not even a cold.

Posted by: First Time? Hold My Montrachet... at November 10, 2021 03:18 PM (juH8z)

88 Um...Interesting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021 03:18 PM (LvTSG)

89 Vaccines are a tax. Everyone must get one, 6 times a year. So it shall be!!
- John Roberts

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:18 PM (OalnH)

90 Joe Rogan is the uber mench, whatever doesn't kill him makes him stronger.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 10, 2021 03:19 PM (/hXfz)

91 this entire post is criminal misinformation, or something

Posted by: Pfizer at November 10, 2021 03:19 PM (I4hmj)

92 I've never had the flu.
I've also never had a flu shot.

Coinky-dink?

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:19 PM (OalnH)

93 Had my annual physical on Monday. Not word one regarding the deadliest plague known to man. No questions about it either.

Things that make you go - Hmmmmmmm. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at November 10, 2021 03:19 PM (mD/uy)

94 86 Deja vu?
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 10, 2021 03:17 PM (DTX3h)

Eh, what the hell. Related musical link.

https://youtu.be/m-kbmHO-GWU

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 10, 2021 03:20 PM (DTX3h)

95 Regeneron works, remdisivir works, IVM works, the moderna and Pfizer drugs work. Being young and healthy works. I think the answer is clear. Masks, lockdowns, distancing and the JAB! Jabbity jab jab jabaroo! Get the jab, jabroney! Jab your grandma! Jab your wife! Jab your kids! Jab jab jab everyone!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 03:20 PM (0ryfU)

96 Phuck Pfizer.
https://tinyurl.com/4d79t45a

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 10, 2021 03:20 PM (UHVv4)

97
Confirmed, active cases in my county (pop. 380000) have fallen below 1000, according to the county health department. So 99.75% of the population doesn't have it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 10, 2021 03:20 PM (/U27+)

98 I had a monoclonal antibody treatment when I had the 'rona. Stuff works great. Was back to being annoying in about 48 hours and haven't been sick since.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 10, 2021 03:20 PM (SchxB)

99 When the churches and gyms closed down, and the liquor stores stayed open, I understood.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 10, 2021 03:20 PM (/hXfz)

100 Treat the symptoms!
Nobody is saying this enough.

Posted by: m at November 10, 2021 03:21 PM (RYc1G)

101 Do they have a pre-exposure prophylactic that is ribbed for your pleasure? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Roy at November 10, 2021 03:21 PM (Ti+Tv)

102 Adam Baldwin joins the Pfizer fray too:
https://tinyurl.com/j4fbuf9h

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 10, 2021 03:21 PM (UHVv4)

103 99 When the churches and gyms closed down, and the liquor stores stayed open, I understood.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

All the weed stores stayed open too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 10, 2021 03:22 PM (c2zke)

104

Anchor Brian Williams, a 28-year veteran of NBC News and MSNBC, has received an outpouring of support after announcing he is set to leave the company.

MSNBC President Rashida Jones said in a staff memo that Williams would "take the coming months to spend time with his family."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 10, 2021 03:22 PM (63Dwl)

105 I thought this was a old thread

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 03:22 PM (2JoB8)

106 Odd. They said the first vax'es had no side effects. So hy are they claiming this one does?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 10, 2021 03:22 PM (cOXDn)

107 Swollen testicles Pfizer:
https://tinyurl.com/2aa6yks9

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 10, 2021 03:22 PM (UHVv4)

108 What ever happened to natural immunity due to having and getting over covid?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2021 03:23 PM (E0Qtv)

109 Do I have deja vu?

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 10, 2021 03:23 PM (mf5HN)

110 108 What ever happened to natural immunity due to having and getting over covid?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2021 03:23 PM (E0Qtv)

That one always has worked. Boring stuff, and no money in it.

Posted by: Roy at November 10, 2021 03:24 PM (Ti+Tv)

111 A hundred choices in vaccines. What to do? What to do?

Think I will take my chances with the virus.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 10, 2021 03:24 PM (o2MD2)

112 What ever happened to natural immunity due to having and getting over covid?
Posted by: rickb223

Independent fact checkers have independently fact checked this and independently arrived at the conclusion that immunity of any type doesn't exist.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 10, 2021 03:24 PM (mD/uy)

113 Do I have deja vu?

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysteria at November 10, 2021 03:23 PM

Like all over again?

Posted by: Yogi Berra at November 10, 2021 03:25 PM (bVYXr)

114 The vaccine is not about health or science. It's about population tracking and control.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 10, 2021 03:25 PM (eeRB6)

115 Do I have deja vu?
Posted by: alexthechick

Didn't you ask that before?

Posted by: Tonypete at November 10, 2021 03:25 PM (mD/uy)

116
No, it's Pfuck Pfizer. Phuck Pharma in general, and Pfuck Pfizer in particular.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at November 10, 2021 03:26 PM (Mzdiz)

117 It's deja-vu all over again, Alex.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 10, 2021 03:26 PM (UHVv4)

118 Did anybody hear if Newsom did indeed stream to the economic summit last night? Twatter seems to have found other things to talk about. And if true, why would anybody want a "cocktail" of this shit?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 10, 2021 03:26 PM (wAnMi)

119 I'm the only one who loves you. I am the only one who can protect you, boo. Just let me slip inside you. One little jab is all it takes, well a couple jabs. But that is just because I love you so much!

Posted by: da Jab at November 10, 2021 03:27 PM (0ryfU)

120 114 The vaccine is not about health or science. It's about population tracking and control.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 10, 2021 03:25 PM (eeRB6)

___

Nah. Like everything else, it's about money. Pfizer and Moderna are making a killing. The big guy is getting 10% off the top most likely, which is why the push for mandates. Brandon doesn't care about population control. He just wants his 10%.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:27 PM (OalnH)

121 Something very funny's happening to me.

Posted by: "It's the Mind" host at November 10, 2021 03:28 PM (DTX3h)

122 This post needs to star Brendan Fraser.

'Cause it's a Blast from the Past!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2021 03:28 PM (DU+/6)

123 KT thanks for the great post and thanks for the reposting explanation. I thought I had time-traveled yesterday and missed my chance to change history...

As a federal contractor, I hope all the requirements get repealed - the way they wrote the T&C they can change the referenced website all they want forever!

Posted by: Iris at November 10, 2021 03:28 PM (DibdT)

124 The pandemic is over but the biden administration and everyone on the hard left is pushing for more and more jabs.

It's no longer about the science, it's about the benjamins.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 10, 2021 03:28 PM (bVYXr)

125
Here's Berenson on Pfizer's little cartoon they tweeted out about how #ScienceWillWin.

https://tinyurl.com/un9kjuwn

Pfizer thinks Science! is a giant pink hot dog or something.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at November 10, 2021 03:28 PM (Mzdiz)

126 Not even sure this is live now, but to leave it you might not be able to get back.

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 03:29 PM (2JoB8)

127 What ever happened to natural immunity due to having and getting over covid?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2021 03:23 PM (E0Qtv)

Doesn't exist, according to the "experts."

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 10, 2021 03:29 PM (Ez6QX)

128 I don't see why it can't be about money AND power.

Posted by: irright at November 10, 2021 03:29 PM (SchQD)

129 Remember when the gov of SC (Sanford I think) left the state for 3 days to fuck his South American sidepiece? It was all over the MSM. My God, he left the state, unannounced, what if there is an emergency? REEEEEEE!!!

Newsom's gone for 2 weeks and it's a big meh.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:29 PM (OalnH)

130 We were getting a lot of briefings from CIA, from FBI about attacks that may happen to us, cyber attacks I mean and also about spreading of misinformation."

---------------

It's good to know that the CIA and the FBI are protecting the real America - the corporations - against the scum - the citizens - who might want some answers.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 10, 2021 03:29 PM (sNzkE)

131 121 Something very funny's happening to me.
Posted by: "It's the Mind" host at November 10, 2021 03:28 PM (DTX3h)

"Psychiatrist!.......Psychiatrist!......Psychiatrist!...."

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at November 10, 2021 03:29 PM (dfRN6)

132
Nah. Like everything else, it's about money. Pfizer and Moderna are making a killing. The big guy is getting 10% off the top most likely, which is why the push for mandates. Brandon doesn't care about population control. He just wants his 10%.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:27 PM (OalnH)

Brandon isn't make decisions about anything more complex than what flavor ice cream he wants. Other people have been and are driving this mandate. This started under Trump, so it's bi-partisan and though the companies are making bank, I don't think it's just money.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 10, 2021 03:29 PM (eeRB6)

133 never shoulda called this kid

Posted by: REDACTED at November 10, 2021 03:29 PM (us2H3)

134 Pfizer sucks rotten eggs. Regeneron, on the other hand...

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 10, 2021 03:30 PM (A0cwl)

135 There are no CDC studies that prove natural immunity is better than the vaccine.

Also

The CDC is not funding any studies to show that natural immunity is better than the vaccine. They don't need to because the jab is da shit. Now, go get the jab before your mother cries. You know you want to. Just a little hit.

Posted by: Da Science at November 10, 2021 03:30 PM (0ryfU)

136 The major difference between infusion and injection is the amount of trouble for the subject. A subcutaneous injection is done in seconds, infusions can be much longer.

Posted by: ... at November 10, 2021 03:30 PM (km0lm)

137 >>>There are a couple of people very close to me who got the shot despite my protests. I don't want anything to happen to them.

Same here

Posted by: Max Power at November 10, 2021 03:30 PM (QCc6B)

138 It's no longer about the science, it's about the benjamins.
Posted by: Mister Scot

It never was about the science.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2021 03:30 PM (E0Qtv)

139 Andy Slavitt confirms that Dems and government bureaucrats want the COVID19 pandemic to last forever
https://tinyurl.com/d7ukbfyr

Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 03:31 PM (NpAcC)

140 IVM works by the same mechanism as the new Pfizer drug.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 03:31 PM (0ryfU)

141 Brandon isn't make decisions about anything more complex than what flavor ice cream he wants. Other people have been and are driving this mandate. This started under Trump, so it's bi-partisan and though the companies are making bank, I don't think it's just money.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 10, 2021 03:29 PM (eeRB6)

__

I should have said Team Brandon.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:31 PM (OalnH)

142 It's all about getting that cultural scalp and making the Trump supports bend the knee. Even though Trump has been nothing but pro-Covid vaccines.

They want to see their political enemies unemployed, an effective treatment outside a vaccine is the last thing they want despite saying this is all about saving lives.

Posted by: Blago at November 10, 2021 03:31 PM (/bgEW)

143
Something you haven't seen here in the US media (much), but France has joined several other countries and pulled the Moderna jab for people under 30.

Moderna's side effects are worse than Pfizer. Moderna's dosing is higher than Pfizer, btw, and Moderna is the worst about the cardio AEs in younger people. Young people, especially males, are the most susceptible to the myo/pericarditis AEs.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at November 10, 2021 03:32 PM (Mzdiz)

144 Will truth out? When it does, if it does, will the totalitarians actually back off in embarrassment and under a general cloud of social condemnation?

Nope. They'll find some new panic. And keep trying to rob people of their freedom (like the Meat Puppet sneers at "your freedom").

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 10, 2021 03:32 PM (A0cwl)

145 Infecting pain on their political enemies is a nice side effect (get it?). But the primary reason for all of this is money.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:33 PM (OalnH)

146 What is Science getting ready to do to that Brain exactly?

Creepy shit!!!!

Posted by: ... at November 10, 2021 03:33 PM (km0lm)

147 A whole lot of people really need killin.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 10, 2021 03:33 PM (iDcra)

148 No country can survive an indefinite lockdown. That is the point.

Posted by: klaftern at November 10, 2021 03:33 PM (taPSh)

149 Science has your back

Just bury your head in the pillow and it won't hurt as much.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at November 10, 2021 03:34 PM (w9Wax)

150 Quick! Get those mandates in place NOW before science makes the vaccines obsolete

I always had the feeling if you just held out long enough this whole mirage would just disappear.

*provided you are doing something to support your immune system if you choose not to vaxx*

Posted by: kallisto at November 10, 2021 03:34 PM (DJFLF)

151 Andy Slavitt confirms that Dems and government bureaucrats want the COVID19 pandemic to last forever
https://tinyurl.com/d7ukbfyr
Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 03:31 PM (NpAcC)

I have said this almost from the beginning.

If I weren't already a chronically-depressed, cynical, alcoholic asshole, this Kung Flu con job would have done the trick.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 10, 2021 03:34 PM (2JVJo)

152 Why haven't doctors made some attempts to push back at these threatening boards, no matter how they feel about COVID vax and/or treatments? Don't they have any pride in their profession and personal judgment to not be intimidated like this?

Don't DOCTORS themselves set these boards up?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 10, 2021 03:35 PM (aW5/6)

153 148 No country can survive an indefinite lockdown. That is the point.
Posted by: klaftern at November 10, 2021 03:33 PM (taPSh)

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Are there still lockdowns anywhere?

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:35 PM (OalnH)

154 In Fake Biden's America, science sexually love you.

Posted by: ... at November 10, 2021 03:35 PM (km0lm)

155 IVM works by the same mechanism as the new Pfizer drug.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 03:31 PM (0ryfU)
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Isn't that called Pfizermectin?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 10, 2021 03:35 PM (iDcra)

156 In Fake Biden's America, science sexually love you.
Posted by: ... at November 10, 2021 03:35 PM (km0lm)
++++
Physically.

With penetration.

Without consent.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 10, 2021 03:35 PM (DU+/6)

157 "In Fake Biden's America, science sexually love you."

Corollary to "I fucking LOVE Science!"

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 03:35 PM (Ectld)

158 my bf's workplace just EXTENDED their jab or get fired date to January 4...from December 8. So #Sciency!!

He's thrilled because now they have to pay him for his ten day Christmas vacation.

Posted by: kallisto at November 10, 2021 03:36 PM (DJFLF)

159 "He's thrilled because now they have to pay him for his ten day Christmas vacation."

Depending on how vacation is accrued, they have to pay for that, too.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 03:36 PM (Ectld)

160 It's well known that the 'Rona takes an extended holiday break, hence why Jan 4th makes sense.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:37 PM (OalnH)

161 The
Left
Can't
Meme.

It's like the 4th law of Thermodynamics. The vector calc form of this statement is a direct result of Maxwell's Equations. It is a fundamental Truth about the Universe.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2021 03:37 PM (6FeV1)

162 Don't DOCTORS themselves set these boards up?
Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 10, 2021 03:35 PM (aW5/6)
================
Like any other institution, I imagine the Karen Doctors have taken control of these boards.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 10, 2021 03:37 PM (A0cwl)

163 also, most truckers are exempt from the jab, per CNBC report.

#Science! does it again!

*and the threat of nationwide trucker strikes*

Posted by: kallisto at November 10, 2021 03:38 PM (DJFLF)

164 IVM works by the same mechanism as the new Pfizer drug.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 03:31 PM (0ryfU)
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Isn't that called Pfizermectin?
Posted by: Jukin

IverPfizer.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2021 03:38 PM (E0Qtv)

165 I keep getting a notice to go for testing. It winds up in my Deleted box, and I delete it from there. If anybody questions me, I'll say, "I was deleting old emails; must have clicked that one by mistake, sorry."

They didn't track me down all summer when I ignored the notices. We'll see if they are any more diligent now.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 10, 2021 03:39 PM (txdEq)

166 Hey there, KT! Seems like I've seen this thread before - haha!!

Posted by: Doof at November 10, 2021 03:39 PM (mZUr4)

167 From what I have read, Listerine or the ones with cetylpyridinium chloride. The latter has some in vitro work behind it.
Posted by: KT at November 09, 2021 04:11 PM (0ghg2)

I just get angrier and angrier and angrier and . . .
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 09, 2021 04:12 PM (s2VJv)

--------------------

That's what I found most shocking, nobody was allowed to try treatments or even talk about them in public. Why not? Where was the harm if all were simply ineffective? Unless mass death and suffering was the idea in the first place.

What's more, shutting down discussion fed speculation, mistrust and conspiracy theories. And here we are, believing nothing and nobody.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 10, 2021 03:39 PM (sNzkE)

168 Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:37 PM (OalnH)

It's all tied in with the FLATUS extension, which will prolly go down in flames anyway.

Because this administration makes Shit Midas look like freaking Trump.

Posted by: kallisto at November 10, 2021 03:39 PM (DJFLF)

169 IverPfizer.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2021 03:38 PM (E0Qtv)

Sounds like something Suzanne Somers hawked on 90's infomercials....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2021 03:39 PM (6FeV1)

170 "Like any other institution, I imagine the Karen Doctors have taken control of these boards."

We are fighting a whole lot of momentum. People feel helpless because no one is speaking up. They aren't speaking up because they feel helpless. We need some John Galts to stand up and reject the insanity.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 03:39 PM (Ectld)

171 167 What's more, shutting down discussion fed speculation, mistrust and conspiracy theories. And here we are, believing nothing and nobody.
Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 10, 2021 03:39 PM (sNzkE)

=========

You might ingest fourteen gallons of Listerine trying to cure your covids. They will protect you from yourself.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021 03:40 PM (LvTSG)

172 Don't DOCTORS themselves set these boards up?
Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 10, 2021 03:35 PM (aW5/6)
================
Like any other institution, I imagine the Karen Doctors have taken control of these boards.
---Huck

Then why don't the doctors do like the school parents: work on getting those jackasses out ASAP???

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 10, 2021 03:40 PM (aW5/6)

173 Anytime is a good time for a man date.

Posted by: Shep! at November 10, 2021 03:40 PM (a3Q+t)

174 Doctors are being investigated simply for discussing natural immunity. The GOP candidate for WI governor is an MD, he's enduring his fifth investigation by whatever demorat controlling authority applies

Posted by: kallisto at November 10, 2021 03:40 PM (DJFLF)

175 PJ Media has article Gruesome said it was a two week family Halloween extravaganza.

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 03:41 PM (2JoB8)

176 Don't DOCTORS themselves set these boards up?
Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 10, 2021 03:35 PM (aW5/6)

Doctors are not natural leaders. They are followers. I am just trying to not get fired. There are specialty boards, state medical boards, hospital boards.... all of them have the power to strip me of my ability to practice. All of them rely on government funding. If they let their members get too uppity, the government closes the purse.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 03:41 PM (0ryfU)

177 We are fighting a whole lot of momentum. People feel helpless because no one is speaking up. They aren't speaking up because they feel helpless. We need some John Galts to stand up and reject the insanity.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 03:39 PM (Ectld)

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Even if someone does speak up, big tech will censor it. Try posting something against mandates on FB, Nextdoor, or Reddit. It will be gone within minutes.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:41 PM (OalnH)

178 Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 03:20 PM

Remdesivir works if it is used like Regeneron.

And you got the message. The jab.

Posted by: KT at November 10, 2021 03:41 PM (0ghg2)

179 Then why don't the doctors do like the school parents: work on getting those jackasses out ASAP???

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 10, 2021 03:40 PM (aW5/6)

because you need to be an MD in order to change the system; and many MDs not cooperating with groupthink are having their license pulled.

Posted by: kallisto at November 10, 2021 03:41 PM (DJFLF)

180 If we think LF is tedious so does the jury. None of his questions are relevant.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 10, 2021 03:42 PM (0OmEj)

181 Sounds like something Suzanne Somers hawked on 90's infomercials....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 10, 2021 03:39 PM

Say, would you happen to know where I could get a Thighmaster?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Brian S. at November 10, 2021 03:42 PM (a3Q+t)

182 @174 - I think it's MN, not WI

Posted by: kallisto at November 10, 2021 03:42 PM (DJFLF)

183 The funniest and most ironic part of Pfizer using that meme is that they're unwittingly using it incorrectly. The bubble is supposed to be something good you are working toward and the pink hotdog entity is something bad pulling you back from the good.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 10, 2021 03:42 PM (cSs/W)

184 Andy Slavitt confirms that Dems and government bureaucrats want the COVID19 pandemic to last forever
https://tinyurl.com/d7ukbfyr
Posted by: redridinghood at November 10, 2021 03:31 PM (NpAcC)

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And it will, they will simply declare every virus as covid. Anyone who disagrees will be unpersoned.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 10, 2021 03:43 PM (sNzkE)

185 "Even if someone does speak up, big tech will censor it. Try posting something against mandates on FB, Nextdoor, or Reddit. It will be gone within minutes."

So? Go somewhere else. Take all your friends. Meet in person. It didn't take long for parents to realize there's a whole lot more of us than there are of them in Loudon County. All it takes is someone to stand up and reject them. That's what they're most afraid of.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 03:43 PM (Ectld)

186
I've been doing Listerine as a preventative for several months now. The gold colored one, the one that sterilizes your mouth to the nth degree. Makes sense to me!
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 09, 2021

***
I have a bottle of the classic gold-colored Listerine in the cabinet. Usually I gargle/rinse, as I have for years, with Dr. Tichenor's peppermint antiseptic. It's 70% alcohol, so I mix it 75% water/25% Dr. T. Makes the bottle last a while too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 10, 2021 03:43 PM (txdEq)

187 Doctors are being investigated simply for discussing natural immunity. The GOP candidate for WI governor is an MD, he's enduring his fifth investigation by whatever demorat controlling authority applies
Posted by: kallisto

THAT is how you know this has NOTHING to do with science.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2021 03:43 PM (E0Qtv)

188 Here's the thing with doctors; there are few if any independent doctors left. The vast majority are now part of some health network and are basically employees. At its core, a doctor is no different than any other employee of a leftist corporation. Cause too much fuss and you're out the door. So it's not surprising there's not much pushback.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:43 PM (OalnH)

189 I don't think people are aware of what carnage is happening within the ranks of the medical community who are just actually...following the #Science!

Posted by: kallisto at November 10, 2021 03:44 PM (DJFLF)

190 I'm gonna stick with the sex with a virgin as a protective treatment, its acknowledged worldwide

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at November 10, 2021 03:44 PM (zdpQZ)

191
The new analyses show REGEN-COV reduced the risk of contracting COVID-19 (i.e., laboratory-confirmed symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections) by 81.6% during the pre-specified follow-up period (months 2 - 8 ), maintaining the 81.4% risk reduction during the first month after administration

81% is not 100%

Posted by: The Karenstaffel at November 10, 2021 03:45 PM (/U27+)

192 185 "Even if someone does speak up, big tech will censor it. Try posting something against mandates on FB, Nextdoor, or Reddit. It will be gone within minutes."

So? Go somewhere else. Take all your friends. Meet in person. It didn't take long for parents to realize there's a whole lot more of us than there are of them in Loudon County. All it takes is someone to stand up and reject them. That's what they're most afraid of.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 03:43 PM (Ectld)

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Yeah I don't disagree with you. Just saying it's a lot of work to get the message out. Meanwhile the left has access to several platforms to get their propaganda out.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 10, 2021 03:45 PM (OalnH)

193 pro-boner

probe owner

Posted by: Miklos, self-identifying at November 10, 2021 03:46 PM (QzkSJ)

194 The era of MD's being a bunch on Republican white males is largely over.

I would say most health care workers in general skew about as liberal as academia. So they are VERY invested in this narrative and if you are not on board with, you're not going to risk your career.

Posted by: Blago at November 10, 2021 03:46 PM (/bgEW)

195 Doctors are being investigated simply for discussing natural immunity. The GOP candidate for WI governor is an MD, he's enduring his fifth investigation by whatever demorat controlling authority applies
Posted by: kallisto at November 10, 2021 03:40 PM (DJFLF)

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Real medicine is a threat to their "Science" with a capital S.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at November 10, 2021 03:47 PM (sNzkE)

196 Miklos, if you're here, I called Mandina's just now. The guy who answered the phone sounded like they just fired him and he was working out his last day, but he said, yes, the gift card was there for "Wolfus Aurelius," and I could come in and get it any time. I did not ask if I had to wear a face diaper to do so. I'm tired of kowtowing to this hysteria, if not downright psychosis.

I hope that soon I'll be able to *use* the card. Thanks again!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 10, 2021 03:47 PM (txdEq)

197 "Yeah I don't disagree with you. Just saying it's a lot of work to get the message out. Meanwhile the left has access to several platforms to get their propaganda out."

Yeah. They cheat. We're still getting the message out. I'm pretty sure the panic is not because 80% of the country is vaccinated. No one trusts these goons. Everyone is skeptical. Their inconsistency and dishonesty is causing us to unite against them in groups that are getting more dangerous for them. They just got their butts handed to them and they are doubling down because they're bluffing. What are they going to do when we call?

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 03:47 PM (Ectld)

198 What about the Merck pill?

Simple. Merck's patent on ivermectin ran out years ago.

Posted by: Golfman at November 10, 2021 03:48 PM (tD7e5)

199 I would say most health care workers in general skew about as liberal as academia. So they are VERY invested in this narrative and if you are not on board with, you're not going to risk your career.
Posted by: Blago at November 10, 2021 03:46 PM (/bgEW)

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You're welcome.

Posted by: 40 years of medical school Affirmative Action at November 10, 2021 03:48 PM (OalnH)

200 Miklos is giving out prizes?

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 10, 2021 03:48 PM (Ez6QX)

201 190 I'm gonna stick with the sex with a virgin as a protective treatment, its acknowledged worldwide
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

Why is sex with a virgin such a great thing? They have no concept of how things work, how to move with a partner, how to please a partner, how to get the most pleasure for themselves. It will be over in seconds for a boy and usually painful and not particularly pleasant for a girl.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 10, 2021 03:48 PM (sonVw)

202 Talked with a guy on Sunday who runs a genome analysis service (not 23-and-me) and, yeah, they can pinpoint who's going to get hit hard with the Covid.

Posted by: moviegique at November 10, 2021 03:49 PM (asXVI)

203 I hope that soon I'll be able to *use* the card. Thanks again!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

de rien

Posted by: Le Mikleuse, mes cheres amis at November 10, 2021 03:49 PM (QzkSJ)

204 Ace, would you please consider doing and posting a poll on how people here at this blog feel about the new alternative treatments to injected Covid vaccines?

I admit I personally think the new treatments seem a lot more palatable and preferable to the original vaxxes that have been available for a while now. But again: I'm a Pollyanna and don't really know anything. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at November 10, 2021 03:49 PM (L2ZTs)

205 The 2 emergency physician orgs- AAEM and ACEP are more concerned about social and environmental justice than anything else. The Emergency medicine board has threatened to revoke my board certification for even disagreeing publicly with the scientific consensus.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 03:50 PM (0ryfU)

206 Moviegique---

What does that mean?

Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 10, 2021 03:51 PM (aW5/6)

207 Brunnhilde at November 10, 2021 03:35 PM

Most boards, professional organizations, etc. are populated by leftists now. Because they get their life's meaning from their activism. That's why you don't see doctors pushing back against these boards. They have their own lives.

Posted by: KT at November 10, 2021 03:51 PM (0ghg2)

208 The era of MD's being a bunch on Republican white males is largely over.

Posted by: Blago at November 10, 2021 03:46 PM (/bgEW

Dr. Pierre Kory WAS a Democrat. I think he's been red-pilled. As have many, I suspect.

Posted by: Golfman at November 10, 2021 03:51 PM (tD7e5)

209 " The Emergency medicine board has threatened to revoke my board certification for even disagreeing publicly with the scientific consensus."

A quasi-government organization threatening you for practicing your first amendment rights seems like a constitutional issue.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 03:51 PM (Ectld)

210 Miklos is giving out prizes?
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 10, 2021

***
Just an appreciation for a fellow survivor of Da Swamp, aka Da Pesthole. I hope I can stop to pick the card up this Saturday after I vote and take care of my other errands.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 10, 2021 03:51 PM (txdEq)

211 Miklos is giving out prizes?
Posted by: Jordan61

I can do better than the Cracker Jack people.

What a ripoff.

Posted by: Grand Prix Miklos at November 10, 2021 03:52 PM (QzkSJ)

212 I'm hung like a mule. Science.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 10, 2021 03:52 PM (0chEi)

213 I treated the symptoms, Vit D, Vit C, Zinc, Ivermectin, hydrated with pedialyte, took aspirin and Nyquil at night. Took 2 weeks but I'm back to normal except for taste and smell. But no doctors or hospitals because I didn't think they would save me. I saved me. My husband didn't get it at all.

Posted by: Megthered at November 10, 2021 03:52 PM (sfWd9)

214 Not getting a booster, since I never got the first jab.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 09, 2021 04:06 PM (ZnsQq)

Likewise, although I would take the "sink shot" if I could find a provider who would indulge.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 10, 2021 03:53 PM (P3gRi)

215 How long before the Medical Industrial Complex is hiring heroin junkies to administer COVID vaccines?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at November 10, 2021 03:54 PM (+xGNi)

216 Aaron Khieraty, director of Medical Ethics program at UC Irvine, placed on leave for challenging school's mandate in court. He is not able to work any of his side gigs while on leave, so they have effectively stopped his income:

https://tinyurl.com/sjkhaufv

Posted by: kallisto at November 10, 2021 03:54 PM (DJFLF)

217 "How long before the Medical Industrial Complex is hiring heroin junkies to administer COVID vaccines?"

As long as they're not idiots.

Posted by: Dr. Gregory House at November 10, 2021 03:55 PM (Ectld)

218 The Pfizer "Booster" is just the third shot, same as the other two.

Posted by: Javems at November 10, 2021 03:55 PM (fgFKs)

219 Why is sex with a virgin such a great thing? They have no concept of how things work, how to move with a partner, how to please a partner, how to get the most pleasure for themselves. It will be over in seconds for a boy and usually painful and not particularly pleasant for a girl.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 10, 2021

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Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 swore to me that, aside from oral experiences with a previous boyfriend, she was a virgin the night we first slept together. She was very enthusiastic and had good, imaginative ideas. And trust me, it was not over in seconds, or even in an hour; and we both enjoyed it.

(Of course, I found out later she also swore a lot of things that turned out not to be true. . . .)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 10, 2021 03:55 PM (txdEq)

220 108 What ever happened to natural immunity due to having and getting over covid?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2021 03:23 PM (E0Qtv)

No money in that.

Posted by: Duh' at November 10, 2021 03:56 PM (KXkkH)

221 Cute little mus musculus.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 10, 2021 03:56 PM (axyOa)

222 I treated the symptoms, Vit D, Vit C, Zinc, Ivermectin, hydrated with pedialyte, took aspirin and Nyquil at night. Took 2 weeks but I'm back to normal except for taste and smell. But no doctors or hospitals because I didn't think they would save me. I saved me. My husband didn't get it at all.
Posted by: Megthered at November 10, 2021 03:52 PM (sfWd9)

Sad.

The state of American medicine. They have centralized doctors income. Feature not a bug of Obamacare.

Posted by: Golfman at November 10, 2021 03:56 PM (tD7e5)

223 oh. A hamster. Never mind.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 10, 2021 03:56 PM (axyOa)

224 I received an infusion of Eli Lillly's Bamlanivimab monoclonal antibodies, but they have been taken off the market due to their supposed ineffectiveness. However, my antibodies are still north of 800/ml and it's been 10 months since I had the Wuhan Flu. A positive result for antibodies is considered anything > 0.8/ml.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 10, 2021 03:56 PM (7b2L9)

225 Why is sex with a virgin such a great thing? They have no concept of how things work, how to move with a partner, how to please a partner, how to get the most pleasure for themselves. It will be over in seconds for a boy and usually painful and not particularly pleasant for a girl.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 10, 2021 03:48 PM (sonVw)

Never having had sex with a virgin myself, I'm going to hazard a guess that, in a lot of cases, it is either an older man getting off (you'll excuse) on the destruction of innocence* or the jaded roue's desire for something new, an untutored child who can be molded into the perfect sex toy.**

But what the fuck do I know? I'm just a lousy hack writer.

*the pseudonymous "Walter" who wrote the Victorian classic My Secret Life once desired a young virgin, gloating, "I wanted to make her cry out with the pain my tool caused her, to make her bleed."

**The undercurrent of the 1968 song "Master Jack" by Four Jacks and a Jill.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 10, 2021 03:56 PM (2JVJo)

226 "Quick! Get those mandates in place NOW before science makes the vaccines obsolete"

Joe desperately wants to claim he defeated the virus, as he promised! He's gone all-in on getting credit for defeating the virus by mandating vaccinations. COVID being tamed by treatment, with 20-30 percent of the population remaining unvaxxed, will diminish Joe's self- and Media-proclaimed victory. That combined with the now-admitted only-partly effective vaccines, will make sane people wonder why they were ordered by the Government to get vaxxed or be fired.

Posted by: Gref at November 10, 2021 03:57 PM (AMIL/)

227 I also should add that a friend of mine had COVID and never received monoclonal antibodies and his level has stayed pretty steady at about 600/ml.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 10, 2021 03:58 PM (7b2L9)

228 A young female physician in ONtario, can't recall her name...had her license pulled because she publicly criticized her hospital's "civilian" CEO.

She took issue with how they were treating (mistreating) Covide patients

Posted by: kallisto at November 10, 2021 03:58 PM (DJFLF)

229 As many others, when I caught the coof, I just supplemented with D, Zinc, C, Quercetin and OTC cold meds containing aspirin and antihistamines. A good prescription cough syrup was key as well.
My scrip for Ivermectin was delayed until it was too late to treat.

Only about 3 or four bad days, then 3 weeks for recovery.

I still got 4 blood clots in my legs, and 1 pulmonary embolism.

Posted by: Joe Mama at November 10, 2021 03:59 PM (WmGrA)

230 "Why is sex with a virgin such a great thing?"

Yeah, I would mostly agree with what the other guys said. The only two legitimate reasons I could see for picking a virgin is 1. Religious implications or 2. Playing the long game and training someone properly, although, I would imagine that would require a certain mindset and be fairly rare. Mostly, I think it's just conquest. Which...ick.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 03:59 PM (Ectld)

231 I also should add that a friend of mine had COVID and never received monoclonal antibodies and his level has stayed pretty steady at about 600/ml.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 10, 2021 03:58 PM (7b2L9)

Science!!!

Posted by: Golfman at November 10, 2021 03:59 PM (tD7e5)

232 What does that mean?
Posted by: Brunnhilde at November 10, 2021 03:51 PM (aW5/6)
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I'm not sure what the larger implications are, but the guy who runs the place is a 2x Nobel short-lister who also predicted "long Covid" in January of 2020.

For practical purposes, it means that genetics indicate really strongly how hard you'll be hit by the WuFlu.

Posted by: moviegique at November 10, 2021 03:59 PM (asXVI)

233 226 Joe desperately wants to claim he defeated the virus, as he promised! He's gone all-in on getting credit for defeating the virus by mandating vaccinations. COVID being tamed by treatment, with 20-30 percent of the population remaining unvaxxed, will diminish Joe's self- and Media-proclaimed victory. That combined with the now-admitted only-partly effective vaccines, will make sane people wonder why they were ordered by the Government to get vaxxed or be fired.
Posted by: Gref at November 10, 2021 03:57 PM (AMIL/)

==========

"I will turn the skies green."
-An equally attainable campaign promise

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021 03:59 PM (LvTSG)

234 A quasi-government organization threatening you for practicing your first amendment rights seems like a constitutional issue.
Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 03:51 PM (Ectld)

Au contraire. They are a private entity, and they view speaking out against the experts and possibly supplying false information as a breach of ethics.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 04:00 PM (0ryfU)

235 Some virgins don't have hymens as they were removed by doctors during examinations. Or so I've been told.

Posted by: Javems at November 10, 2021 04:01 PM (fgFKs)

236 For practical purposes, it means that genetics indicate really strongly how hard you'll be hit by the WuFlu.
Posted by: moviegique at November 10, 2021 03:59 PM (asXVI)

What genetics in particular?

Posted by: Golfman at November 10, 2021 04:02 PM (tD7e5)

237 235 Some virgins don't have hymens as they were removed by doctors during examinations. Or so I've been told.
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What do they do with them after they remove them?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 10, 2021 04:02 PM (0chEi)

238 "Why is sex with a virgin such a great thing?"

Yeah, I would mostly agree with what the other guys said. The only two legitimate reasons I could see for picking a virgin is 1. Religious implications or 2. Playing the long game and training someone properly, although, I would imagine that would require a certain mindset and be fairly rare. Mostly, I think it's just conquest. Which...ick.
Posted by: squid_hunt

3. They don't know how inexperienced you are.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2021 04:02 PM (E0Qtv)

239 "They are a private entity, and they view speaking out against the experts and possibly supplying false information as a breach of ethics."

They are endorsed by the government. I think an argument could be made if done from a fact based position and giving your medical opinion based on studies/facts. I think it was in Wisconsin that some engineer just won a first amendment lawsuit because the engineering club up there was upset that he referred to himself as an engineer without their approval.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 04:02 PM (Ectld)

240 Posted by: Megthered at November 10, 2021 03:52 PM (sfWd9)
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Glad to hear you're doing better. Taste and smell take weeks to get back to normal. I would also suggest that your husband get tested for antibodies since there are many people who had it but never knew.

LabCorp offers the antibody test and you don't need a doctor's order/Rx. It's also free (or $10 if you have no insurance.)

Posted by: IrishEi at November 10, 2021 04:02 PM (7b2L9)

241 @226

>>only-partly effective vaccines.

Partly effective??

They're up to a four booster shots in less than a year.

The Vaccine has low to zero efficacy at this point.

Seeing as nothing has really changed since more people have died* and been hospitalized* with a vaccine than without it.

* It's all a scam and Op but let's play along for the sake of argument.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 10, 2021 04:03 PM (Vs2ZN)

242 Trial back on

Posted by: Skip at November 10, 2021 04:03 PM (2JoB8)

243 Does Trump support giving the jab to 5 year olds?

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 10, 2021 04:03 PM (2xGy+)

244 "3. They don't know how inexperienced you are."

I don't think that qualifies as legitimate.

"What do they do with them after they remove them?"

Eyelid transplants. Saving lives.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 04:03 PM (Ectld)

245 Every harlot was a virgin once.

Posted by: William Blake at November 10, 2021 04:04 PM (LilNs)

246 I like how everyone is now pretending that the KOVID KIDZ shot is the same as the adult one, and no one is batting an eye.

"It's just a lower dose!"

(And they'll even admit there wasn't a large enough test group to pick up any side effects of the new chemical injection)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 10, 2021 04:04 PM (/6kZi)

247 A young female physician in ONtario, can't recall her name...had her license pulled because she publicly criticized her hospital's "civilian" CEO.

She took issue with how they were treating (mistreating) Covide patients
Posted by: kallisto

There is something definitely evil going on.
This isn't simply disagreeing.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 10, 2021 04:05 PM (E0Qtv)

248 The Rittenhouse trial provides an excellent example of why the Progs avoid facts-only discussions and on-the-record questioning, at all costs.

Posted by: Gref at November 10, 2021 04:05 PM (AMIL/)

249 My husband is immunocompromised because of a liver transplant. Both of our daughters have taken care of family members and not gotten sick. We're thinking its something genetic with them.

Posted by: Megthered at November 10, 2021 04:05 PM (sfWd9)

250 Joe Mama at November 10, 2021 03:59 PM

Sounds like you did a lot of things right. Did you taper off the aspirin when you quit? Those blood clots and embolisms are a worry.

Read somewhere that dextromethorphan can increase viral replication. I have an actual homeopathic cough syrup on hand just in case (recommended online).

I have never bought an actual alleged homeopathic formulation before.

I am coming round to the "get monoclonal antibodies if you get it" stance.

Posted by: KT at November 10, 2021 04:05 PM (0ghg2)

251 "There is something definitely evil going on.
This isn't simply disagreeing."

The love of money is the root of all evil.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 10, 2021 04:05 PM (Ectld)

252 FB wagged a finger at me for posting the link to the Dr Campbell video yesterday. I posted a link to the medical journal write up today.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at November 10, 2021 04:08 PM (YynYJ)

253 I am not in a position to lose my license over this crap. Maybe when this bs is over, we can talk about getting the leftists out of these institutions. If you catch coof and die, if you get the jab and die, sorry about your luck. We allowed our government to become this monster, and the monster is calling the shots. It isn't the kickers fault you lost the game because he missed the 58 yard field goal with 1 second left on the clock.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 04:08 PM (0ryfU)

254 only-partly effective vaccines.
***

Literally the only thing they're effective at is getting your government document to show compliance. The vaxxine
- doesn't keep you from catching COVID
- doesn't keep you from spreading COVID
- doesn't keep you from dying from COVID
- may or may not influence the symptoms, same as if you're not vaccinated
- might injure or kill you every single time you get the shot
- May or may not not prevent "long COVID", and has a 20% or so chance to make symptoms worse per pro-vaccine studies

What am I forgetting?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 10, 2021 04:08 PM (/6kZi)

255 Get those mandates in place NOW before science makes the vaccines obsolete

I have been saying this for a while now. They are getting more and more desperate the more obvious it is these shots are not just worthless but actually bad.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 10, 2021 04:08 PM (KZzsI)

256 October Gun Sales 30 Percent Above Pre-Pandemic Levels

Posted by: Azathoth at November 10, 2021 04:09 PM (KGCjR)

257 I am coming round to the "get monoclonal antibodies if you get it" stance.
Posted by: KT at November 10, 2021 04:05 PM (0ghg2)
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Monoclonal antibodies have been around for a while, unlike mRNA therapy.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 10, 2021 04:10 PM (7b2L9)

258 256 October Gun Sales 30 Percent Above Pre-Pandemic Levels
Posted by: Azathoth at November 10, 2021 04:09 PM (KGCjR)

=========

The Democratic Establishment has no intention of ever trying to ban guns ever. They know it's impossible, and yet they fundraise off of it because their base is stupid.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 10, 2021 04:10 PM (LvTSG)

259 Cat Ass Trophy at November 10, 2021 04:08 PM

Yes. Doctors should not risk their licenses. I kinda liked the request for a list of things that were considered "misinformation", though.

Posted by: KT at November 10, 2021 04:12 PM (0ghg2)

260 Nood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 10, 2021 04:12 PM (khAeP)

261 Daily steak and a blowjob prevents COVID. Same with stir fry and cunnilingus. Studies will not be complete until 2025. It is a self report honor system study.

Posted by: dude weed old man balls at November 10, 2021 04:12 PM (uBAYE)

262 Get monoclonal antibodies if you ever become aware that you are sick

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 10, 2021 04:12 PM (/6kZi)

263 SpaceX Dragon crew launch to ISS is scheduled tonight at 9:03 PM ET. Four crew. The ascending rocket should be visible a ways up the East Coast.

Some info and the Youtube link that will go active about 5 PM ET:

https://tinyurl.com/2v9kfr8a
https://tinyurl.com/cjjvrehw
https://tinyurl.com/4y479rz2

Posted by: Gref at November 10, 2021 04:13 PM (AMIL/)

264 I would say most health care workers in general skew about as liberal as academia.
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Not so much the actual hands-on staff (but a fair amount), but those who run the damn places are probably more liberal than academia.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 10, 2021 04:13 PM (IytoW)

265 Good week to be a student in Seattle.
Apparently so many teachers put in for a day off on Friday, that there arent enough to teach so its a day off for everyone. Brilliant administration there guys.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 10, 2021 04:14 PM (axyOa)

266 If the defense failed to object to the pointless, droning, incoherent questions from DA Binger just to allow him to annoy the jury, IT WORKED!

This little moron should be disbarred based on his performance this afternoon alone.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at November 10, 2021 04:30 PM (+Kpte)

267 And yes, parents were upset about the pole fitness classes by children led by a woman whose husband is a convicted child sex offender:

https://4w.pub/kids-pole-instructor-married/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2021 04:42 PM (YK8CE)

268 267-wrong place sorry.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 10, 2021 04:43 PM (YK8CE)

269 I see where the prosecutor is going in Kyle's trial. He is going to claim that Kyle pointed his gun at somebody with a pistol, and that Kyle was the aggressor and loses his right to self defense. However that is a bullshit argument because Kyle ran a way removing his aggression.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 10, 2021 04:43 PM (3FShG)

270 Some virgins don't have hymens as they were removed by doctors during examinations. Or so I've been told.
Posted by: Javems at November 10, 2021 04:01 PM (fgFKs)
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Ah. So that's what happened to my high school girlfriends.

Posted by: wth at November 10, 2021 05:01 PM (v0R5T)

271 ". . . Bourla continued, "There is a very small part of professionals which they circulate on purpose misinformation so that they will mislead those that have concerns. Those people are criminals. . ."

They are called government employees & the media...

Posted by: Big JiLm at November 10, 2021 07:56 PM (rNxIZ)

272 Many of those refusing the mRNA vax are all-in on the monoclonal antibody treatments and the other Pfizer, Merck et al drugs being rushed to market under EUA. Seriously - does anyone trust Pfizer? Many people's religious objection to the vax is that they were either tested on aborted fetus cell lines or contain those cells. Most don't stop to ask if any of the new drugs have the same taint. Regeneron's treatment did use the cell lines. Is it possible the PTB figure if they can't get to us via the vax, they'll do it with other meds. Don't be surprised if future mandates include those as well or instead of "vaccines".

Posted by: Shreveman at November 11, 2021 03:16 AM (w7kDw)

273 I don't know but, usually at this time My Doctor is constantly telling me I need a Flu shot, this year? Not a peep.
Now they want me to get the Moderna shot booster, though.

Posted by: obsidian at November 11, 2021 11:02 AM (qPFBS)

274 obsidian at November 11, 2021 11:02 AM

Some are suggesting that Gavin Newsom had a bad reaction to the Moderna and a flu shot. Some people are getting them together, but I don't think it is a good idea.

And I'm not real wild about the Moderna vax to start with.

Posted by: KT at November 11, 2021 04:36 PM (0ghg2)

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