<i><font color="red">Fifth Circuit Court of Appeal Issues Emergency Injunction Blocking Biden's Vaccine Mandate</i></font>

Fifth Circuit Court of Appeal Issues Emergency Injunction Blocking Biden's Vaccine Mandate

"Grave statutory and constitutional" issues.

A U.S. federal appeals court issued a stay Saturday freezing the Biden administration's efforts to require workers at U.S. companies with at least 100 employees be vaccinated against COVID-19 or be tested weekly, citing "grave statutory and constitutional" issues with the rule.

Let's Go Brandon.

The order demands the government respond to the petitioner's demand for a permanent injunction by 5pm on Monday.

(I'm stomping on the pet thread because this is major breaking news and will probably dominate the comments in the pet thread anyway. After an hour, I will repost the pet thread above this one.)

Posted by: Ace at 03:30 PM

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1 Let's go Brandon.

Posted by: Mongoose at November 06, 2021 02:31 PM (FSgOU)

2 Send the FBI to arrest all the judges!

Posted by: The "Moderate" Biden Administration! at November 06, 2021 02:31 PM (I2/tG)

3 SCROTUS will disappoint.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 06, 2021 02:32 PM (2xGy+)

4 Fuck Joe Biden!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 06, 2021 02:33 PM (Vxu+H)

5 Wow, its almost like there are rules against Tyranny in this country.

Not sure where they have been the last couple of years... but...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 06, 2021 02:34 PM (oHd/0)

6 Nice little judgeship you've got there. Hate to see anything happen to it.

You don't want a mob of screaming "protestors" outside your house 24x7 do you?

Posted by: The "Moderate" Biden Administration! at November 06, 2021 02:35 PM (I2/tG)

7 Thank you, 5th Circuit.

Posted by: EveR at November 06, 2021 02:35 PM (MUpk6)

8 Just remember, a job is a fundamental human right - unless you don't give into the Democrat party's demands. Then you have no rights.

Posted by: nohone at November 06, 2021 02:36 PM (HlOZV)

9 Nice touch with the mask on the skull Ace. How long do you figure before that mask catches fire and burns way?

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at November 06, 2021 02:36 PM (Adlwz)

10 Of course, if you had told me a couple of years ago that the Center For Disease Control had the administrative authority to suspend the payment of rent in the United States, I wouldn't have believed you.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 06, 2021 02:37 PM (I2/tG)

11 Let's Go Brandon is infrastructure!

Posted by: Axeman at November 06, 2021 02:37 PM (OaZlZ)

12 Well, it's a start....but just a start, I hope.

Posted by: boynsea at November 06, 2021 02:37 PM (cx155)

13 Big V Caffeinated

Mask is Nomex.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 06, 2021 02:37 PM (u82oZ)

14
Nice touch with the mask on the skull Ace. How long do you figure before that mask catches fire and burns way?
Posted by: Big V Caffeinated

Asbestos

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2021 02:38 PM (63Dwl)

15 Methamphetamine is infrastructure!

Posted by: The "Moderate" Biden Administration! at November 06, 2021 02:38 PM (I2/tG)

16 The ARC of History!

Yes. That overreach was a real tell we have left the US of A behind. It died from internal Communism.

We need a Constitution 2.0, and snipers to restore America 2.0.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 06, 2021 02:39 PM (u82oZ)

17 You don't want a mob of screaming "protestors" outside your house 24x7 do you?
Posted by: The "Moderate" Biden Administration! at November 06, 2021 02:35 PM (I2/tG)
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No thank you!

Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts at November 06, 2021 02:39 PM (OaZlZ)

18 Thanks for posting the news, Ace. I don't think it would have dominated the comments in the pet section, because my impression is that people in the pet thread like to talk about...well...pets and take a break from news.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2021 02:39 PM (ueGNX)

19 Bertram Cabot, Jr.

The EPA SWAT team will be after you soon.

Serpentine!

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 06, 2021 02:40 PM (u82oZ)

20 The asbestos for that mask was mined by miners using homemade cloth masks, because they work perfectly.

Posted by: Roy at November 06, 2021 02:40 PM (Ti+Tv)

21 Send the FBI to arrest all the judges!
Posted by: The "Moderate" Biden Administration! at November 06, 2021 02:31 PM (I2/tG)

Heh, no doubt.

But a big YES nonetheless.

Posted by: Pony Tail at November 06, 2021 02:40 PM (tzZq2)

22 FenelonSpoke

Look for an email in a day or so. I am looking at getting you to the TxMo Meet next year.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 06, 2021 02:41 PM (u82oZ)

23 You need to get a GIF with some hand coming out from the skull and-at least temporarily- holding back a needle.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2021 02:41 PM (ueGNX)

24 Soylent Green is infrastructure! It's infrastructure!

Posted by: Axeman at November 06, 2021 02:41 PM (OaZlZ)

25 No thank you!

And you don't have to send the kompromat you have on me to my house again. I hate looking at it.

Posted by: Chief Justice Roberts! at November 06, 2021 02:42 PM (I2/tG)

26 But what does the Hawaiian Circus Court say?

Posted by: Joe Mama at November 06, 2021 02:42 PM (WmGrA)

27 9 Nice touch with the mask on the skull Ace. How long do you figure before that mask catches fire and burns way?
Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at November 06, 2021 02:36 PM (Adlwz)

LOL I hadn't noticed.

Posted by: m at November 06, 2021 02:42 PM (ya129)

28 14
Nice touch with the mask on the skull Ace. How long do you figure before that mask catches fire and burns way?
Posted by: Big V Caffeinated

Asbestos
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2021 02:38 PM (63Dwl)

OSHA's gonna be all over that.

Posted by: m at November 06, 2021 02:43 PM (ya129)

29 One would have thought that this would have happened earlier but good anyways
This injunction is a sliver of hope that the US hasn't gone completely nuts

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 06, 2021 02:43 PM (MFphb)

30 I hate suspense. It's been difficult waiting to see how much tyranny Americans will tolerate. But this is a reassuring development, as long as it doesn't just fizzle out.

Posted by: Emmie at November 06, 2021 02:44 PM (t62xj)

31 20 The asbestos for that mask was mined by miners using homemade cloth masks, because they work perfectly.
Posted by: Roy at November 06, 2021 02:40 PM (Ti+Tv)

; )

Posted by: m at November 06, 2021 02:44 PM (ya129)

32 Excellent. No offense to our various con law experts, like Cruz and Laura Ingraham(who I do not listen to any more) or that other blond lawyer, that I do not listen to any more), but why has not anyone of them suggested this mandate was unconstitutional? Or at least I have not seen them mention that.

Related. I am making my way through another Tom Clancy novel. And he mentioned
*travel is a constitutionally protected right
even inside states Lemuel Penn case
Supreme court precedent*
That seems interesting. How can they be restricting our travel by car and plane?

Posted by: MikeM at November 06, 2021 02:44 PM (WsqCN)

33 Grave statutory and constitutional issues are CJ John Roberts speciality.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 06, 2021 02:44 PM (51Mr9)

34 If anyone in the White House has ever said they didn't care what a judge says, this crowd will.

YOLO Bitches! Let's Go Brandon!

Posted by: weirdflunky at November 06, 2021 02:44 PM (cknjq)

35 Soylent green is poople! Ask me how I know.

Posted by: Joetato at November 06, 2021 02:44 PM (mNhhD)

36 But the Party of Science-ism demands we Trust the Science and we must have a mandate to force people to get the vaccine even though it won't stop you from getting Covid and it should be enforced in November or January or whenever to Stop the Spread.
We're in This Together.
Be Well.

PS: I think my favorite part of Michael Rosenberg's (of SI) whine against Aaron Rodgers is where he cried, "My wife only screamed 'Aaron Rodgers" in bed one time, ok?!"

Posted by: Lrrr at November 06, 2021 02:45 PM (CEYxb)

37 While we're at it, can we have some type of action protecting children from the clot shot? I want more than just the media public health stories reassuring us that it's totally normal for young children to have strokes and heart inflammation.

Posted by: Emmie at November 06, 2021 02:46 PM (t62xj)

38 Millions of children will die of the Trump Death Plague if we comply with the Fifth Circuit's decision.

So we're going to ignore it.

Posted by: The "Moderate" Biden Administration! at November 06, 2021 02:46 PM (I2/tG)

39 "Grave statutory and constitutional" issues.

That's putting it mildly

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2021 02:46 PM (KZzsI)

40 Called it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in the 30s with John Ford, again at November 06, 2021 02:47 PM (LvTSG)

41 I remembered every time that Trump's attempts to undo the deep swamp was stymied by Judge Kamehamea, the press raised the roof in praise and thanksgiving (Can I get an "Amen"?). Reign in the Executive!!!

I looked for this just now, and they only have cat videos.

Posted by: Roy at November 06, 2021 02:48 PM (Ti+Tv)

42 Good! Give it to Joey's JV Junta good and hard.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2021 02:48 PM (fPLyw)

43 32 Mike M, How much big pharma advertising appears on TV? That alone should answer your question.

You would do better to ignore the mass media and simply read scotusblog And typically the reporting on law in the media is simply dismal to begin with. Try Volokh Conspiracy or some other legal blog.

Posted by: whig at November 06, 2021 02:48 PM (9hXN1)

44 In days past, I would have just laughed at this stupid mandate and knew the Supreme Court would blow it to bits, but these days? Its a coin flip.

I mean, Obamacare was blatantly, painfully unconstitutional and they said it was fine.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2021 02:49 PM (KZzsI)

45 As I broke the seal, I heard a voice say come and see. The sun was black as sack cloth and Ace posted on a Saturday.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 06, 2021 02:49 PM (kTF2Z)

46 The mandate should go to the dogs!

**hat tip to pet thread**

Posted by: Diogenes at November 06, 2021 02:49 PM (axyOa)

47 Yeah, some guy named "Abbott" is on about it on twatter too.

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/
1457042568332652555

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 06, 2021 02:50 PM (UHVv4)

48 Prepare for the think-pieces about how unelected judges shouldn't be allowed to make policy in 3.... 2.... 1....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 06, 2021 02:50 PM (6FeV1)

49 38 Can't ignore in the states covered by the 5th, civil contempt of court citations possibly. Now lets see what the other circuits do.

Posted by: whig at November 06, 2021 02:50 PM (9hXN1)

50 Somehow, this is Trump's fault. I just know it. Oh, and it's raysis.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 06, 2021 02:50 PM (t/mkx)

51 Nice! Though, being a DoD civvy, I'd imagine I'm still proper fucked.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at November 06, 2021 02:50 PM (DTX3h)

52 These judges need to say 25 "Hail Fauci's" and 25 "I Believe in the Science" or their blasphemy will result in excommunication

Posted by: Lrrr at November 06, 2021 02:50 PM (CEYxb)

53 Well it's better that a kick to the head.

Posted by: f'd at November 06, 2021 02:51 PM (Tnijr)

54 Ace never rests. Or is that rust? Maybe it's rust never rests. Anyhoo, nice to see Mr. O'Spades on the weekend!

Posted by: Weasel at November 06, 2021 02:51 PM (0IeYL)

55 48 Prepare for the think-pieces about how unelected judges shouldn't be allowed to make policy in 3.... 2.... 1....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 06, 2021 02:50 PM (6FeV1)

The Conservative Case for it is being typed up by pudgy fingers as we comment about it.

Posted by: Roy at November 06, 2021 02:51 PM (Ti+Tv)

56 Now they gotta wake Joey up and use small words to explain he must sign a blank piece of paper.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 06, 2021 02:51 PM (fPLyw)

57 []The Conservative Case for it is being typed up by pudgy fingers as we comment about it

"Clearly, no True Christian(c) would ever support this court decision!"
--David French

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2021 02:52 PM (KZzsI)

58 What America needs is a Republican in the White House and Republican majorities in both houses, so we can put conservative Justices on the Supreme Court.

Then they'll repeal Roe v Wade! We swear!

Posted by: callsign claymore at November 06, 2021 02:52 PM (J2PCZ)

59 We need a Constitution 2.0, and snipers to restore America 2.0.

The fact that Socialists and Communists (But I repeat myself) are allowed to live in my country without fear is a big flaw in our system.

Posted by: NR Pax at November 06, 2021 02:53 PM (t/mkx)

60
If I am informed of mandatory vaccination at my employer I will ignore it. No way am I getting injected with that stuff.

I won't even reply to or acknowledge such a message or any follow up messages or threats. If I discover some morning that my card key no longer works, then my retirement starts a little early.

The deeper problem is not my employment, it is the unconstitutional, tyrannical, and false nature of this idea. It's just wrong.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 06, 2021 02:53 PM (2iDSr)

61 58 What America needs is a Republican in the White House and Republican majorities in both houses, so we can put conservative Justices on the Supreme Court.

Then they'll repeal Roe v Wade! We swear!
Posted by: callsign claymore at November 06, 2021 02:52 PM (J2PCZ)

Already done. Women lost the right to privacy the minute they agreed to Google's Terms and Conditions.

Posted by: Roy at November 06, 2021 02:54 PM (Ti+Tv)

62 Yes, LOL about the masked flaming-skull, Ace.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 06, 2021 02:54 PM (UHVv4)

63 Excellent. No offense to our various con law experts, like Cruz and Laura Ingraham(who I do not listen to any more) or that other blond lawyer, that I do not listen to any more), but why has not anyone of them suggested this mandate was unconstitutional? Or at least I have not seen them mention that.

Related. I am making my way through another Tom Clancy novel. And he mentioned
*travel is a constitutionally protected right
even inside states Lemuel Penn case
Supreme court precedent*
That seems interesting. How can they be restricting our travel by car and plane?
Posted by: MikeM at November 06, 2021 02:44 PM (WsqCN)
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Laura Ingraham and Cruz have been calling the mandate unconstitutional. Her show is all about that.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 06, 2021 02:55 PM (NpAcC)

64 It wouldn't matter if the vaccines were 100% effective and the greatest medical miracle ever contrived by humankind... They still can't force you to take it. "It doesn't work" isn't really the argument (although, as a vaccine is commonly understood, it really doesn't). "You can't make me" is the argument.

Or, in Old Church Moronic: "Fuck You."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 06, 2021 02:55 PM (6FeV1)

65 38 Can't ignore in the states covered by the 5th, civil contempt of court citations possibly. Now lets see what the other circuits do.
Posted by: whig at November 06, 2021 02:50 PM (9hXN1

IANAL, but I think an injunction by any one of the various courts of appeal, is a nation wide injunction. See the stupid injunctions emanating from that flowery shirt wearing judge in Hawaii during the Trump administration.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at November 06, 2021 02:56 PM (R5lpX)

66 That seems interesting. How can they be restricting our travel by car and plane?
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Cars and planes didn't exist in Colonial times so they don't count just like machine-guns!!! /leftist nuts

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 06, 2021 02:56 PM (UHVv4)

67 Kavanaugh and Barrett will team up to save America.

I really crack myself up.

Posted by: torabora at November 06, 2021 02:56 PM (EZoe1)

68 You would do better to ignore the mass media and Posted by: whig
Yup. Thank you for the ideas. I pretty much do ignore the mass media, just here and a couple other web sites. I am just surprised, people like Cruz or Ingraham, it is their job to be up on con law issues. And it would seem like it would be a feather in their cap to be the first to say, on national TV or the floor of the senate, hey, this has obvious constitutional problems. It is not my area of expertise-so not my place to say.
Yeah, I keep shaking my head thinking we are fxcked. If Pfizer sponsorship is preventing Laura etc from telling the truth/speaking her mind. Not good.

Posted by: MikeM at November 06, 2021 02:56 PM (WsqCN)

69 66 That seems interesting. How can they be restricting our travel by car and plane?
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Cars and planes didn't exist in Colonial times so they don't count just like machine-guns!!! /leftist nuts
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 06, 2021 02:56 PM (UHVv4)

Joe Biden didn't exist in colonial times either, so he can't be president.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 06, 2021 02:57 PM (6FeV1)

70 Laura Ingraham and Cruz have been calling the mandate unconstitutional. Her show is all about that.
Posted by: redridinghood
Ah okay. Good on them. I take back my slander.

Posted by: MikeM at November 06, 2021 02:58 PM (WsqCN)

71 Good news, but what are they going to do about all of the people fired or placed on unpaid leave so far?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 06, 2021 02:59 PM (JUOKG)

72 IANAL, but I think an injunction by any one of the various courts of appeal, is a nation wide injunction.

Nope - its only good for their circuit.

Nationwide injections by individual judges were very rare, until the BadOrangeMan became President.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 06, 2021 02:59 PM (I2/tG)

73 Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 06, 2021 02:41 PM (u82oZ)

Thanks, dear one. I will look for it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 06, 2021 02:59 PM (ueGNX)

74 64 They still can't force you to take it.
"You can't make me" is the argument.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 06, 2021 02:55 PM (6FeV1)

But they are making people take it.

Posted by: m at November 06, 2021 02:59 PM (ya129)

75 Abbott!!

Posted by: Big Lou at November 06, 2021 02:59 PM (63Dwl)

76 With broke back butter bill passing, we are all poor now anyway

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (h1jJh)

77 I think it's, "Ace never rusts" or was it, "Wedded to Ace has a pretty face"??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (UHVv4)

78 Nationwide injections by individual judges were very rare

Er - "injunctions".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (I2/tG)

79 Now they gotta wake Joey up and use small words to explain he must sign a blank piece of paper.
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Near as I can tell, the regeneration cycle on his sarcophagus is 72 hours.

But come Monday, he'll scream "mandate work!" in his Mummra guttural gargle.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (CEYxb)

80 >>47 Yeah, some guy named "Abbott" is on about it on twatter too.

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/status/
1457042568332652555

Abbott is like a sun faded and tattered windsock at some abandoned airport. He goes in the direction of the current wind gusts.
He is shit. Don Huffines should replace him.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (2xGy+)

81 They still can't force you to take it. "It doesn't work" isn't really the argument (although, as a vaccine is commonly understood, it really doesn't). "You can't make me" is the argument.

Exactly. Your only necessary answer is "no". You do not need an argument. You do not need an excuse. You do not need an exemption. Say "no" then sue if they fire you.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (KZzsI)

82 67 The Supremes won't let us down. It's not like they've ever supported internment camps for American citizens or something.

Posted by: callsign claymore at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (J2PCZ)

83 I don't ever see any of this ever actually being a real law, even with a "squishy" Supreme Court.

I can though see companies forcing it on their own and some bullshit libertarian types clucking about what a blessing of liberty it is for mega-corps to force these medical decisions on the population at large all so some CEO can get a pat on their head from the Twitter brigade.

Posted by: Blago at November 06, 2021 03:01 PM (PwNLq)

84 Nationwide injections by individual judges were very rare, until the BadOrangeMan became President.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 06, 2021 02:59 PM (I2/tG)

I don't know about you, but I ain't accepting no injection by no judge. Nor by any doctor or nurse either, for that matter. They can inject my cold dead corpse.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at November 06, 2021 03:01 PM (R5lpX)

85 Nationwide injections by individual judges were very rare, until the BadOrangeMan became President.

I don't see how they are remotely legal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2021 03:01 PM (KZzsI)

86 72 IANAL, but I think an injunction by any one of the various courts of appeal, is a nation wide injunction.

Nope - its only good for their circuit.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 06, 2021 02:59 PM (I2/tG)

Thanks.

Posted by: m at November 06, 2021 03:01 PM (ya129)

87 the right to force other people to get the vaxxine that you got and didn't work is one of the emanations of the penumbra of Hillary's hips.

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at November 06, 2021 03:02 PM (4a9Vv)

88 It's very simple - we are going to hand hundreds of thousands of dollars to illegal immigrants sneaking across the border, while taking away the pensions of service members who refuse to get vaccinated.

Posted by: The "Moderate" Biden Administration at November 06, 2021 03:02 PM (I2/tG)

89 Wow
Weekend Ace is the best Ace

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:03 PM (2JoB8)

90 Have the Hawaiian judges been notified?

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:03 PM (2JoB8)

91 I take back my slander.
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Libel!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 06, 2021 03:03 PM (UHVv4)

92 Render unto Caesar what is Caesars and to God what is Gods. Religious exemption does just this.

Biden is a good Catholic? LOLOL

Posted by: Jmel at November 06, 2021 03:04 PM (bVhJi)

93 78 Nationwide injections by individual judges were very rare

Er - "injunctions".
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (I2/tG)

LOL slip of the tongue.

Posted by: m at November 06, 2021 03:04 PM (ya129)

94 Haha! The awesome Fifth circuit acted at lighting speed issuing on a Saturday.

The government's Monday response deadline makes me laugh.

Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2021 03:05 PM (Ed8Zd)

95 Thanks.

The Ninth Circuit has a terrible decision, called the "Boise" decision, which says that you can't prohibit homeless camping, unless you can show that you have "adequate" shelter space suitable for the needs of the homeless.

That decision only applies in the Ninth Circuit's jurisdiction.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 06, 2021 03:05 PM (I2/tG)

96 Well, I did say I weren't no lawyer. I was basing my statement on the Hawaiian judge rule.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at November 06, 2021 03:05 PM (R5lpX)

97 The junta will continue to pursue blatantly unconstitutional policies until there are negative consequences to them personally.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 06, 2021 03:05 PM (EZebt)

98 Wait...I thought it'd freeze Biden officials. My ten-year-old Batman days so disappointed. Lawyers fuck everything.

Posted by: JEM at November 06, 2021 03:05 PM (9SkWd)

99 Abbott is like a sun faded and tattered windsock at some abandoned airport.
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I don't know enough about the Don running against him, but that's a pretty apt description.

Last to follow, first to fold, useful only when the bright light of the sun is bearing down on him

Posted by: Lrrr at November 06, 2021 03:05 PM (CEYxb)

100 Now they gotta wake Joey up and use small words to explain he must sign a blank piece of paper.

To which he will respond "I can't, I don't need to make boom-boom".

Posted by: pep at November 06, 2021 03:06 PM (ZsR3z)

101 Except for impending OSHA regulations which not sure have been finalized, the White House hasn't made squat for a rule yet.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:06 PM (2JoB8)

102 I can though see companies forcing it on their own and some bullshit libertarian types clucking about what a blessing of liberty it is for mega-corps to force these medical decisions on the population at large all so some CEO can get a pat on their head from the Twitter brigade.
Posted by: Blago at November 06, 2021 03:01 PM (PwNLq)

Ah, but without gov't cover of requiring it, the companies will be susceptible to liability for people required to take it.

Posted by: WiNO at November 06, 2021 03:07 PM (+t4e+)

103 President Biden will be furious when he wakes up from his extended nap!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill Biden! at November 06, 2021 03:07 PM (I2/tG)

104 96 Well, I did say I weren't no lawyer. I was basing my statement on the Hawaiian judge rule.
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at November 06, 2021 03:05 PM (R5lpX)

I ain't a lawyer, either. Nice to have some on the blog.

Posted by: m at November 06, 2021 03:07 PM (ya129)

105 Except for impending OSHA regulations which not sure have been finalized, the White House hasn't made squat for a rule yet.
Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:06 PM (2JoB

My understanding is OSHA issued the regs which is why the lawsuits and injunctions are flying now.

Posted by: WiNO at November 06, 2021 03:08 PM (+t4e+)

106 Excellent. No offense to our various con law experts, like Cruz and Laura Ingraham(who I do not listen to any more) or that other blond lawyer, that I do not listen to any more), but why has not anyone of them suggested this mandate was unconstitutional? Or at least I have not seen them mention that.

Maybe they were waiting to see what OSHA would come up with- but I heard many saying it would likely be unconstitutional.

Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2021 03:08 PM (Ed8Zd)

107 101 Which for this reason I thought was why they were leaving it a wish and dream.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:09 PM (2JoB8)

108 m, true dat!

But if it's a carpenter you need, I'm your man.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at November 06, 2021 03:09 PM (R5lpX)

109 The Supremes won't let us down. It's not like they've ever supported internment camps for American citizens or something.
Posted by: callsign claymore at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (J2PCZ)

AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Stop using that example of a wartime decision which was reasonable at the time.

Posted by: WiNO at November 06, 2021 03:10 PM (+t4e+)

110 They will let Sundowner know of this Monday after oatmeal time.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:10 PM (2JoB8)

111 I understand why Jay Guevara had to take time off. First, it's Afghanistan. Down. Then VA and Durham risen from the ashes. Up. Then Megaporkulus passes with Republican help. Down. Now, up again. I don't want to know what the next down will be, but my guess is that it'll involve Megaporkulus Two.

Posted by: pep at November 06, 2021 03:10 PM (ZsR3z)

112 I've been wondering: as people who got the vaxx can still catch the virus and spread it, shouldn't those people also be required to get tested regularly?

also, I noticed that when Biden was at the microphone this morning, VP Giggles was standing behind him. Why was she wearing a mask? Was it just to keep her quiet?

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at November 06, 2021 03:11 PM (4a9Vv)

113 He is shit. Don Huffines should replace him.
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (2xGy+)

I hardily disagree. Huffines is serving a purpose right now but even his brothers don't support his candidacy.

Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2021 03:11 PM (Ed8Zd)

114 82 67 The Supremes won't let us down. It's not like they've ever supported internment camps for American citizens or something.
Posted by: callsign claymore at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (J2PCZ)

Lots of discussion of this on the Tocqueville thread.

Posted by: m at November 06, 2021 03:12 PM (ya129)

115 Racists everywhere you look!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 06, 2021 03:13 PM (d9FiS)

116 Maybe they were waiting to see what OSHA would come up with- but I heard many saying it would likely be unconstitutional.
Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2021 03:08 PM (Ed8Zd)

What I heard was that OSHA has issued similar emergency orders nine or ten times, and has lost in court on the majority of them.

Posted by: WiNO at November 06, 2021 03:13 PM (+t4e+)

117 Wow...I hadn't heard that the Labor Secretary declared most truck drivers exempt from the mandate.

Posted by: lizabth at November 06, 2021 03:13 PM (L3Rsz)

118 Maybe they were waiting to see what OSHA would come up with- but I heard many saying it would likely be unconstitutional.
Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2021 03:08 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Those two have been saying it's unconstitutional before OSHA was even involved. There have been many others that are to numerous to name because everyone that I have been watching have been against the mandate since the beginning.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 06, 2021 03:14 PM (NpAcC)

119 Why was she wearing a mask? Was it just to keep her quiet?
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Scared of contracting Psaki B virus!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 06, 2021 03:14 PM (UHVv4)

120 didn't Biden exempt post office employees from his mandate(s)?

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at November 06, 2021 03:15 PM (4a9Vv)

121 3 judge ruling. 1 judge appointed by Reagan, 2 by Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2021 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)

122 114 Rights that can be suspended by a politician are no rights at all.

Posted by: callsign claymore at November 06, 2021 03:15 PM (J2PCZ)

123 Grave statutory and constitutional issues are CJ John Roberts speciality.
Posted by: TexasDan

It's a tax and you have no standing.

- Big Bad John Roberts

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 06, 2021 03:15 PM (d9FiS)

124 I would say yeah no kidding, OSHA doesn't make law last time I check the constitution. Neither does Brandon all by his pedo self.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 06, 2021 03:15 PM (r5BVk)

125 They can't announce the Fake Vax is a heath hazzard or it doesn't do what they claim. They do that it all falls apart.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:15 PM (2JoB8)

126 It's a tax!

Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:16 PM (Nyumu)

127 With broke back butter bill passing, we are all poor now anyway

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM

Well the good news is the BBB bill has not passed.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 06, 2021 03:16 PM (JUOKG)

128

Here come the judge
Here come the judge
No use you rejectin' his injection, boy
Here come the judge

Posted by: Laugh In at November 06, 2021 03:16 PM (63Dwl)

129 Wow...I hadn't heard that the Labor Secretary declared most truck drivers exempt from the mandate.
Posted by: lizabth at November 06, 2021 03:13 PM (L3Rsz)

Hard to drive 80,000 pounds down the road when you're clutching your chest during a myocardial infarction after getting the clot shot.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at November 06, 2021 03:17 PM (R5lpX)

130 I do hope the states sue and that there are class action suits against OSHA if they try to implement this.

Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:17 PM (Nyumu)

131 Well sure, but that's just for that limited area and for very specific circumstances described in that particular situation.

It's not like it's abortion or something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:17 PM (QqXpN)

132 Why was she wearing a mask?

Hides the ball-gag.

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at November 06, 2021 03:17 PM (nLrWw)

133 121 3 judge ruling. 1 judge appointed by Reagan, 2 by Trump.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2021 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)

nice; yay, PDT

Posted by: m at November 06, 2021 03:17 PM (ya129)

134 didn't Biden exempt post office employees from his mandate(s)?
Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at November 06, 2021 03:15 PM (4a9Vv)

If you got a strong enough protector, you don't have to get the shot.

*Theatrically cupping hand behind ear to listen for anything from SEIU or AFSCME . . . In vain*

Posted by: Kindltot at November 06, 2021 03:17 PM (P9T5R)

135 Lindsey, Mitch, Romney, and McCarthy are worse than cucks and we're stock with Lindsey and Mitch for another five f****** years.

Posted by: Winston Smith at November 06, 2021 03:18 PM (TTpvK)

136 It's properly stule guided as "the Biden dash Harris Adminishrayshun"

Please Make a Note of It

Posted by: Common Tater at November 06, 2021 03:18 PM (F0aU4)

137 BTW, if this goes through* expect 30%+ unemployment by February.

They WANT to collapse the country.

* Has anyone explained how an emergency can wait until after the holidays?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:18 PM (QqXpN)

138 OSHA makes a lot of money on safety violations by trade unions around here. I'd be surprised if they wanted the mandates to go away.

Posted by: dartist at November 06, 2021 03:18 PM (+ya+t)

139 I wonder what will happen some some of the little kids get sick or lord forbid die after getting the vaccine. Is there going to be an outcry or will it al be covered up?

Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:18 PM (Nyumu)

140 Does this invalidate the CMS rule? Probably not.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 06, 2021 03:19 PM (iydjf)

141 I would say yeah no kidding, OSHA doesn't make law last time I check the constitution. Neither does Brandon all by his pedo self.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 06, 2021 03:15 PM (r5BVk)
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Congress, long ago, ceded their constitutional duties to government agencies in order to insulate themselves from unpopular legislation.

Looks like Brandon and Co. may have overreached, however.

Also, I suspect OSHA isn't wild about being in charge of this, as they really don't have the personnel needed to enforce this stupidity.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 06, 2021 03:19 PM (2SdPm)

142 Finally a Hawaiian judge that's on our side.

Posted by: The UnVaxxed Who We Do Not Speak Of at November 06, 2021 03:19 PM (hQVBP)

143 MTG got in to see the J6 rioters. She just went up in my estimation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 06, 2021 03:19 PM (csEWM)

144 He is shit. Don Huffines should replace him.
Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (2xGy+)

I hardily disagree. Huffines is serving a purpose right now but even his brothers don't support his candidacy.
Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2021 03:11 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Yeah, this is a big state and I don't want someone to come in and F it up. Competition is good and I welcome it, but I don't think I can jump aboard the Huffines train.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 06, 2021 03:20 PM (NpAcC)

145 I think the government lost the argument when it exempted the USPS.

Posted by: EveR at November 06, 2021 03:20 PM (MUpk6)

146 Yeah, first the 650,000 Posties were exempt, then they weren't, and then they were, and then they weren't, and then they are, but they all said "F That Shit" and that's probably where it will stay.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 06, 2021 03:20 PM (F0aU4)

147 And while everyone was distracted by this all week:

"A committee of independent experts advising the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention voted unanimously on Tuesday to recommend the Pfizer vaccine for children 5-11, checking off one of the last boxes in the authorization process, and Walensky's final recommendation Tuesday night capped off the process."

Mandatory injections for schoolkids is next.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:20 PM (QqXpN)

148
BTW, ace, Pet Threadians don't usually discuss politics on the Pet Thread. That's what makes it a bright spot in the week.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 06, 2021 03:20 PM (kYXUC)

149 Has anyone explained how an emergency can wait until after the holidays?
Posted by: Moron Robbie
Makes no sense what they are doing.

Posted by: MikeM at November 06, 2021 03:20 PM (WsqCN)

150 Excellent. No offense to our various con law experts, like Cruz and Laura Ingraham(who I do not listen to any more) or that other blond lawyer, that I do not listen to any more), but why has not anyone of them suggested this mandate was unconstitutional? Or at least I have not seen them mention that.

Maybe they were waiting to see what OSHA would come up with- but I heard many saying it would likely be unconstitutional.

Posted by: LASue at November 06, 2021 03:08 PM

osha came up with an emergency rule that biden has now delayed until January 4th 2022 after he held a press conference on September 9th 2021 announcing the mandate. Good luck going to court defending the mandate when the lawsuits will argue that osha does not have the authority to issue an "emergency" rule that was delayed for 4 months. Let's go brandon!

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 06, 2021 03:20 PM (JUOKG)

151 I think the government lost the argument when it exempted the USPS.
Posted by: EveR at November 06, 2021 03:20 PM (MUpk6)

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Unequal application of the law has been a feature of the US for at least a couple of decades.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (2SdPm)

152 Did Hollywood get a carve out exemption from the vaccine mandate?

Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (Nyumu)

153 "Federal Circuit Courts have no standing. Next!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Go Brandon, Lock Her Up! at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (cUUIs)

154 145 I think the government lost the argument when it exempted the USPS.
Posted by: EveR at November 06, 2021 03:20 PM (MUpk6)

And members of the legislature and staff of the White House. For starters.

Posted by: m at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (ya129)

155 I wonder what will happen some some of the little kids get sick or lord forbid die after getting the vaccine. Is there going to be an outcry or will it al be covered up?

Well, at least 18K adults are dead and...the media pretends it didn't happen so I think I know.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (ESjRY)

156 Is there going to be an outcry or will it al be covered up?

There are already reports of kids 12 and 13 dying from heart attacks and brain hemorrhages. Boggles that even that will not be enough to stop the media blackout, even if it is a kid next door to them.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (r5BVk)

157 The ninth circuit will say otherwise of course.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (NpAcC)

158

* whispers *

It's for your own good. No joke.

Posted by: Joe Biteum at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (Tnijr)

159 re 134: frequently seems that leaders of many unions will support what their politicians want so long as the pols give the union leaders what they want.

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (4a9Vv)

160 The heart complications scares me the most, could be thousands. Still wonder if a 2nd dose is another throw of dice or once you passed the danger of 1st dose 2nd will be nothing.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (2JoB8)

161 I wonder what will happen some some of the little kids get sick or lord forbid die after getting the vaccine. Is there going to be an outcry or will it al be covered up?
Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:18 PM (Nyumu)

They aren't covering it up. They just ignore it or don't report on it. Some lady on Twitter was bragging about how her 16 year old son got the shot. Well son got myocondartis (sp) and is a mess. She was on Twitter complaining about the jab safety and got banned. Of course she stated she was going to make sure her two younger kids would get the jab even after this.

Posted by: WiNO at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (+t4e+)

162 Unequal application of the law has been a feature of the US for at least a couple of decades.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (2SdPm)

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Except when it comes to U.S. Congresscritter exemptions for themselves, natch.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Go Brandon, Lock Her Up! at November 06, 2021 03:22 PM (cUUIs)

163 I think the government lost the argument when it exempted the USPS.
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And members of the legislature and staff of the White House. For starters.

***

My little local Podunk State University employees are somehow considered federal employees.

Employees of things literally mentioned in the Constitution are not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:22 PM (QqXpN)

164 No. 142. You brilliant. Bravo.

Posted by: Winston Smith at November 06, 2021 03:22 PM (TTpvK)

165 Get ready for a redefinition of "mandate."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 06, 2021 03:22 PM (BFigT)

166 https://www.youtube.com/c/USCourtsCA5/videos

last post was Thursday ... but I was surprised to find they had their own channel

Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at November 06, 2021 03:22 PM (nLrWw)

167 Grave statutory and constitutional issues. Grave is also where they put you after you take the kill shot.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 06, 2021 03:22 PM (AtfPU)

168 The heart complications scares me the most, could be thousands. Still wonder if a 2nd dose is another throw of dice or once you passed the danger of 1st dose 2nd will be nothing.
Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (2JoB

It looks like, at a minimum, the risk is the same for each shot. But no one knows because, like the three monkeys, the CDC doesn't want to know.

Posted by: WiNO at November 06, 2021 03:22 PM (+t4e+)

169 The Ninth Circuit has a terrible decision, called the "Boise" decision, which says that you can't prohibit homeless camping, unless you can show that you have "adequate" shelter space suitable for the needs of the homeless.

For some reason nobody has ever tried to appeal that to SCOTUS? We do not have to provide shelter to the world.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2021 03:22 PM (KZzsI)

170 BTW in a not unrelated news:

One of my coworkers got the commie cooties. He was vaxed twice. Twice. Already experiencing a fever, sore throat and lost his taste and smell. And is only 31 years old.

Meanwhile another woke lefty coworker right in the face of this comical insanity brags about how she's getting a booster this week. After getting a shot already like a month ago. Whut? Aren't there medical rules against that?

BTW, I know yet another coworker, this one based who got the sweet and sour sicken, same symptoms as the vaxed idiot, only he didn't get the vax, and is now naturally immune and will not ever get vaccinated under any circumstance.

Posted by: The UnVaxxed Who We Do Not Speak Of at November 06, 2021 03:23 PM (hQVBP)

171 Well son got myocondartis (sp) and is a mess. She was on Twitter complaining about the jab safety and got banned. Of course she stated she was going to make sure her two younger kids would get the jab even after this.

**

Imagine how bad his heart condition would be if he hadn't gotten the shot that caused it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:23 PM (QqXpN)

172 My daughter turns 12 on Tuesday. Not sure if her school district is going to send us a vaccination notice or what.

Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:23 PM (Nyumu)

173 The Fifth and Eleventh Circuit courts of appeal, while not necessarily reliably "conservative" at least haven't lost their ever-loving minds like the Ninth.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 06, 2021 03:23 PM (gstyl)

174
They aren't covering it up. They just ignore it or don't report on it. Some lady on Twitter was bragging about how her 16 year old son got the shot. Well son got myocondartis (sp) and is a mess. She was on Twitter complaining about the jab safety and got banned. Of course she stated she was going to make sure her two younger kids would get the jab even after this.

Posted by: WiNO at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (+t4e+)

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In a rational world, those children would be removed from the home and she'd be arrested and prosecuted for attempted murder. *spit*

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Go Brandon, Lock Her Up! at November 06, 2021 03:23 PM (cUUIs)

175 We never go off topic in the Pet Thread. It's understood.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 06, 2021 03:23 PM (2DOZq)

176 MTG got in to see the J6 rioters.

You mis-spelled "Peaceful Protesters". On TV it's pronounced "Insurrectionists" for some reason, I guess so they can hold them without trial or counsel or communication and feed them Mooch's School Lunch Program "Food".

Posted by: Common Tater at November 06, 2021 03:23 PM (F0aU4)

177 She was on Twitter complaining about the jab safety and got banned. Of course she stated she was going to make sure her two younger kids would get the jab even after this.
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People like this are why we will never have nice things again.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 06, 2021 03:24 PM (iydjf)

178 We would be thrilled to have someone like Abbot in Commifornia

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 06, 2021 03:24 PM (WF/xn)

179 >> I think the government lost the argument when it exempted the USPS.

They lost a lot of public opinion but this case seems more fundamental.

Grave constitutional and statutory issues with the mandate go right to the core of the mandate being unconstitutional.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2021 03:24 PM (ZLI7S)

180 147 Yup, and they're doing that with full knowledge of mRna-caused myocarditis in teens...myocarditis that will apparently kill large numbers of them within 10 years of injection.

Posted by: callsign claymore at November 06, 2021 03:24 PM (J2PCZ)

181 Is IANAL like surprise anal ?

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 06, 2021 03:24 PM (WF/xn)

182 It all boils down to LGB coercing Corporate America to mandate the shots so the government can then say...hey, it's not us forcing you to get the shot, it's your boss.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at November 06, 2021 03:24 PM (R5lpX)

183 160 The heart complications scares me the most, could be thousands. Still wonder if a 2nd dose is another throw of dice or once you passed the danger of 1st dose 2nd will be nothing.
Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (2JoB

And 3rd. And 4th.

Posted by: m at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM (ya129)

184 They aren't covering it up. They just ignore it or don't report on it. Some lady on Twitter was bragging about how her 16 year old son got the shot. Well son got myocondartis (sp) and is a mess. She was on Twitter complaining about the jab safety and got banned. Of course she stated she was going to make sure her two younger kids would get the jab even after this.
Posted by: WiNO at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (+t4e+)

A lot of these people genuinely do not believe anything bad will ever happen to them or their kids. We have been so hype successful as a civilization that we have removed foundational survival instincts in people.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM (csEWM)

185 One of the problems of course is how much big pharma and the US Govt advertise on media platforms. Just one of the reasons they will not report these stories. Another reason is they are Leftists.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM (r5BVk)

186 My little local Podunk State University employees are somehow considered federal employees.

Employees of things literally mentioned in the Constitution are not.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:22 PM

Most likely there is a Federal contract or two at that university. Most universities have some sort of grants/contracts and that snags them under the federal contractor net for the jab mandate.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM (JUOKG)

187 The Supremes won't let us down. It's not like they've ever supported internment camps for American citizens or something.
Posted by: callsign claymore at November 06, 2021 03:00 PM (J2PCZ)

AAARRRGGGHHH!!! Stop using that example of a wartime decision which was reasonable at the time.
Posted by: WiNO

They should've locked up that Kraut Eisenhower too!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM (d9FiS)

188 >>>why has not anyone of them suggested this mandate was unconstitutional?

Roe v Wade.
Its tween you and your doc.

Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM (8xSAm)

189 The Ninth Circuit couldn't be reached for comment as they were all high.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM (AtfPU)

190 178. So true. I know Texans grumble about him but from where I'm sitting in Cali, he sounds pretty damn amazing.

Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM (Nyumu)

191 Nice touch with the mask on the skull Ace. How long do you figure before that mask catches fire and burns way?
Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at November 06, 2021 02:36 PM (Adlwz)

The Covid innoculate loaded into the masks in the Chinese factories has fire-retardant properties.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 06, 2021 03:26 PM (P3gRi)

192 The heart complications scares me the most, could be thousands. Still wonder if a 2nd dose is another throw of dice or once you passed the danger of 1st dose 2nd will be nothing.
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And 3rd. And 4th.

*

Yep, that's the thing. Gamble against COVID once, or gamble against the shot every quarter for years. Because it will be for years.

You either stand up to it now or you stand up to it after ten doses.

But eventually you're going to stand up to it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:26 PM (QqXpN)

193 The J6 are fed plant based food because of the impact of beef to climate change.

Hopefully these patriots are made martyrs.

Posted by: Winston Smith at November 06, 2021 03:26 PM (TTpvK)

194 139 I wonder what will happen some some of the little kids get sick or lord forbid die after getting the vaccine. Is there going to be an outcry or will it al be covered up?

Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:18 PM (Nyumu)
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It will be shouted from the rooftops, but not the way we want. Somebody cradling their dead children wants someone to blame, and the junta will be loudly proclaiming, "Look what those non-vaxxers did to your beautiful children!" From the junta's point of view, the more dead kids, the better. Makes for easier demonization since they control all mass media anyway.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 06, 2021 03:26 PM (lNHqD)

195 The Ninth Circuit has a terrible decision, called the "Boise" decision, which says that you can't prohibit homeless camping, unless you can show that you have "adequate" shelter space suitable for the needs of the homeless.

-
That's not hardly commie at all.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 06, 2021 03:27 PM (d9FiS)

196 159 re 134: frequently seems that leaders of many unions will support what their politicians want so long as the pols give the union leaders what they want.

Posted by: mallfly the Georgia Peach at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (4a9Vv)

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Like displacing the jobs of their dues-paying members with illegal aliens ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Go Brandon, Lock Her Up! at November 06, 2021 03:27 PM (cUUIs)

197 Most likely there is a Federal contract or two at that university. Most universities have some sort of grants/contracts and that snags them under the federal contractor net for the jab mandate.
Posted by: Mister Scot

**

Yep.

Say, do you get a federal child tax credit?

Any type of other federal credit?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:27 PM (QqXpN)

198 We would be thrilled to have someone like Abbot in Commifornia
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 06, 2021 03:24 P
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Yeah, sometimes I have to remind myself when I get ticked off at Abbott that Texas is lucky we don't have Newsom, Beto or someone that hasn't been vetted enough.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 06, 2021 03:28 PM (NpAcC)

199 Hey, if the government can't give you deplorables the clot shot it can't forcibly sterilize you either!

Three generations of deplorables is enough!

Posted by: Some leftwing hero from the courts at November 06, 2021 03:28 PM (ESjRY)

200 190 178. So true. I know Texans grumble about him but from where I'm sitting in Cali, he sounds pretty damn amazing.
Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM (Nyumu)

Abbott isn't perfect, but I think he's doing well enough to win re-election next year with somewhere around 56% - 60% of the total vote.

especially if Beto runs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 06, 2021 03:28 PM (trdmm)

201 Yeah the kid Fake Vax won't stop at 1, it will be yearly event.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:28 PM (2JoB8)

202 You mis-spelled "Peaceful Protesters". On TV it's pronounced "Insurrectionists" for some reason, I guess so they can hold them without trial or counsel or communication and feed them Mooch's School Lunch Program "Food".
Posted by: Common Tater at November 06, 2021 03:23 PM (F0aU4)

Yeah, I saw that after I hit post and kicked myself. Protesters. Freedom advocates (you cannot even say fighters because they were just there, promoting freedom non-violently.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 06, 2021 03:29 PM (csEWM)

203 Can you imagine the liberal tears and heads exploding everywhere?

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 06, 2021 03:29 PM (iydjf)

204 They knew it was blatantly unconstitutional, and didn't care. They believed they were doing the Reich thing.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at November 06, 2021 03:30 PM (HmZuC)

205 The traffic and parking situation will improve bigly in the next three to five years.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 06, 2021 03:30 PM (AtfPU)

206 Yeah the kid Fake Vax won't stop at 1, it will be yearly event.

**

It will reduce child deaths with COVID from 0.0009% of 1% to 0.0009% of 1%

(that 0.0009% of 1% isn't a made up number btw. That's the actual data)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:30 PM (QqXpN)

207 They lost a lot of public opinion but this case seems more fundamental.

Grave constitutional and statutory issues with the mandate go right to the core of the mandate being unconstitutional.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2021 03:24 PM (ZLI7S)

This all goes back to fucking Roberts saying the government could compel you to do things. It was fucking horrifying then and it is just as horrifying now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 06, 2021 03:30 PM (csEWM)

208 IANAL like surprise anal ?
Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at November 06, 2021 03:24 PM (WF/xn)

Turn around, bend over and find out, said the Otter with a grin.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at November 06, 2021 03:30 PM (R5lpX)

209
Has anyone explained how an emergency can wait until after the holidays?
Posted by: Moron Robbie
Makes no sense what they are doing.
Posted by: MikeM

FDR could have waited until after Christmas to declare war.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2021 03:32 PM (63Dwl)

210 Yeah. John Roberts is another one who should be thrown into a volcano. How the heck do we end up with traitors like this.

Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:32 PM (Nyumu)

211 Good News.

Want to minimize your COVID risks? Vaxxed or not?

Vitamin D appears to be critical, along with Vitamin C, Zinc, and add a multivitamin. Not sure? Get your Vitamin D level checked by your doctor. Shoot for 50 ng/mol.

Most of us Vitamin D deficient.

Posted by: rd at November 06, 2021 03:32 PM (Z32m1)

212 At this point I'm going to vote for Abbott again. His embrace of green energy to our detriment back fired on him and I have hope he has learned some lesson . Otherwise I think he has done a better than average job. Some criticize him for temporarily caving at the height of Covid but I think it was a no win situation and he relatively quickly reversed.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 06, 2021 03:32 PM (2DOZq)

213 No idea why they thought if they made OSHA the bad guy it was going to work, read a few articles last few days it's chances were very slim at best to stay.
Also giving a non elected entity in charge was a back stab.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:32 PM (2JoB8)

214 Abbott is the classic example of that quote where instead of trying to find the right people to do the right thing in government, you find the wrong people and make it expedient for them to do the right thing.

Posted by: The UnVaxxed Who We Do Not Speak Of at November 06, 2021 03:32 PM (hQVBP)

215 FDR could have waited until after Christmas to declare war.

*

How many millions more people will die by waiting until January 4th?

It's a valid question. Shame no one will ask it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:32 PM (QqXpN)

216 IANAL is a new book at the elementary school.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 06, 2021 03:32 PM (AtfPU)

217 They should've locked up that Kraut Eisenhower too!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM (d9FiS)

Ignorance of the facts is not positive in your case.

Posted by: WiNO at November 06, 2021 03:33 PM (+t4e+)

218 FenelonSpoke
... I am looking at getting you to the TxMo Meet next year.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 06, 2021 02:41 PM

Roh roh ...

Posted by: The Horse Trailer at November 06, 2021 03:33 PM (a3Q+t)

219 Adam Kinzinger was observed weeping in the halls of Congress. Rumors are running rampant that he coordinated with Miss Lindsay about what color outfits to wear in protest of what is obviously judicial over reach. It's going to be the certain states and certain court circuits that will save this country until the Marxist insurrection can be kicked to the curb during the midterm elections.

Posted by: LostInSpace at November 06, 2021 03:34 PM (YLqgY)

220 213 No idea why they thought if they made OSHA the bad guy it was going to work, read a few articles last few days it's chances were very slim at best to stay.
Also giving a non elected entity in charge was a back stab.
Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:32 PM (2JoB

That is why they did it. They do not care. It is the brass ring for them. The bright shiny topper for their socialist shit sundae. By hook or by crook, they will do whatever they think might possibly work to punish their political opponents, reward their allies (the drug companies in this case) and more importantly, make themselves feel powerful.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 06, 2021 03:34 PM (csEWM)

221 Yeah the kid Fake Vax won't stop at 1, it will be yearly event.

***************

Any principled conservative who allows their kids to get forcibly injected so Pfizer can continue to make billions because oh well golly ghee whiz we'll gets them at the polls next time is a part of the problem.

Posted by: The UnVaxxed Who We Do Not Speak Of at November 06, 2021 03:36 PM (hQVBP)

222 Is PissHockey dead from covid yet?

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 06, 2021 03:36 PM (iydjf)

223 The "vaccine" killing children is quite serendipitous to the Fauscists, I'm sure.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw at November 06, 2021 03:36 PM (II3Gr)

224 No. 219 What Lindsey does at truck rest stops would make many in that community* blush.

*I don't mean truck drives but b*** f******

Posted by: Winston Smith at November 06, 2021 03:36 PM (TTpvK)

225 So true. I know Texans grumble about him but from where I'm sitting in Cali, he sounds pretty damn amazing.
Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM

Hair Gel is a pretty low bar, comparison-wise.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 06, 2021 03:36 PM (a3Q+t)

226 Hard to drive 80,000 pounds down the road when you're clutching your chest during a myocardial infarction after getting the clot shot.
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at November 06, 2021 03:17 PM (R5lpX)

Just like landing an airliner with 300 people on board.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 06, 2021 03:36 PM (P3gRi)

227 No idea why they thought if they made OSHA the bad guy it was going to work

*

I suspect it's partly because OSHA has such broad power and all states have to obey it or create the equivalent or stricter. Not to mention surprise inspections and putting the financial burden on employers.

Imagine game wardens with the ability to go anywhere, but with the automatic assumption that they can fine you not only for the shots but for EVERYTHING they see wrong. And they will.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:37 PM (QqXpN)

228 At 66 deaths in almost 2 years of 5 - 11yo and most with comobidities the Fake Vax might be killing more than Covid itself.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:37 PM (2JoB8)

229 Prager is fond of saying that if America is to be saved, it will be the South that does it; likewise, if Europe is to be saved, it will be Eastern Europe that does it.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Go Brandon, Lock Her Up! at November 06, 2021 03:38 PM (cUUIs)

230 If you would like to eat at some point in the future you should fill your pantry.

Posted by: Xi at November 06, 2021 03:38 PM (AtfPU)

231
At this point I'm going to vote for Abbott again. His embrace of green energy to our detriment back fired on him and I have hope he has learned some lesson.

Is the green energy is still there?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2021 03:38 PM (63Dwl)

232 Fuck Joe Biden with a rusty syphilis-laced chainsaw. Fuck him to hell. Did I mention Fuck Joe Biden?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at November 06, 2021 03:39 PM (THrK8)

233 Imagine game wardens with the ability to go anywhere, but with the automatic assumption that they can fine you not only for the shots but for EVERYTHING they see wrong. And they will.
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Remember the stories of the good ol' days when revenuers went looking for illegal stills and never came back?

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at November 06, 2021 03:39 PM (iydjf)

234 Why did Xi tell the ants to hoard food?

Posted by: Winston Smith at November 06, 2021 03:39 PM (TTpvK)

235 Fuck Joe Biden with a rusty syphilis-laced chainsaw. Fuck him to hell. Did I mention Fuck Joe Biden?

********

What a terrible thing to say!

Posted by: The UnVaxxed Who We Do Not Speak Of at November 06, 2021 03:39 PM (hQVBP)

236 The Supreme Court was already preparing to cut back Agencies power in the EPA case before it. (question: Does an Agency have the legal power to make rules never authorized or even contemplated by the Congress?)

This case, on Agency Overreach, fits quite nicely into what they were already getting ready to do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 06, 2021 03:39 PM (trdmm)

237 Was Earl Warren a Republican? Off the top of my head, I'm gonna say yes. I think he was Governator of California at the time of the Internment camos for Japanese descent Americans.

One thing people don't understand today, while hindsight is always 20/20 vision, at the time the war was in some doubt. Serious issues, from 1939 to 1942 the Allies were getting their ass handed to them pretty much. It was a shitty thing to do, and in retrospect not necessary, but they didn't know that then.

And it should also illustrate the lengths your government will go to, when they want to be successful at something. See also Mercury/Gemini/Apollo program.

Notice they didn't fuck around there, either. Now compare and contrast with say, Illegal migration.

There are millions and millions of illegals and foreign nationals, absconders, jihadists, and unlawful enemy combatants in this country because the government at best, doesn't want to do anything about the problem.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 06, 2021 03:40 PM (F0aU4)

238 Is the green energy is still there?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2021 03:38 PM (63Dwl)

They ain't tearing down the windmill farms anytime soon but they understand the reliance on them was a mistake. They're still working on correcting that.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 06, 2021 03:40 PM (2DOZq)

239 I went out shopping. The damn masks are back. Viruses are really small, they can cartwheel through the holes in a mask.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 06, 2021 03:42 PM (AtfPU)

240 Why did Xi tell the ants to hoard food?
Posted by: Winston Smith at November 06, 2021 03:39 PM (TTpvK)

Evidently, they had a bad year crop wise and the shelves in their stores will be bare. Flooding and colder temps messed up their vegetable production. I believe they were told to stock up on rice and other Staples.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at November 06, 2021 03:42 PM (R5lpX)

241 Posted by: Common Tater at November 06, 2021 03:40 PM (F0aU4)

One of the main issues that the Left uses Presentism to again claim America is evil.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 06, 2021 03:42 PM (2DOZq)

242
So true. I know Texans grumble about him but from where I'm sitting in Cali, he sounds pretty damn amazing.

Posted by: IC - Joe Biden has shit for brains at November 06, 2021 03:25 PM

Hair Gel is a pretty low bar, comparison-wise.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 06, 2021 03:36 PM

the offer still stands: I'll take Abbott in a heart-beat; I'll trade you Obergruppenfuhrer Whitmer & a Governor to be named later

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 06, 2021 03:43 PM (DUIap)

243 The heart complications scares me the most, could be thousands. Still wonder if a 2nd dose is another throw of dice or once you passed the danger of 1st dose 2nd will be nothing.
Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:21 PM (2JoB

It's another roll of the dice. Seems that bad outcomes in the VAERS database (that is reported bad outcomes) heavily skew to relatively few batch numbers. Sounds like the mother of all QC problems. Or else it is intentional...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 06, 2021 03:43 PM (P3gRi)

244 City of Santa Monica
@santamonicacity
If you're out and about and notice a business isn't making sure their customers are in compliance with the mask mandate, you can call 3-1-1, and they will send one of our Health Ambassadors do a business check.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 06, 2021 03:43 PM (NpAcC)

245 Imagine game wardens with the ability to go anywhere, but with the automatic assumption that they can fine you not only for the shots but for EVERYTHING they see wrong. And they will.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:37 PM (QqXpN)

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Game Warden meeting a week after they start that:

Say, has anybody seen Billy, Frank, or Tom? They were in the field last week and haven't been heard from since.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 06, 2021 03:43 PM (kTF2Z)

246 This has saved my job. I was just talking with my boss yeaterday about going to war with HR. I've been working there for 12 years.

Posted by: Brisco_County_Sr at November 06, 2021 03:44 PM (Au7o2)

247 5th Circuit (Texas baby), Ya Bitches!

Posted by: Maximus at November 06, 2021 03:44 PM (T3hOB)

248 Evidently, they had a bad year crop wise and the shelves in their stores will be bare. Flooding and colder temps messed up their vegetable production. I believe they were told to stock up on rice and other Staples.
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You can have all o' ours! Here, take it!

Posted by: Brandon at November 06, 2021 03:44 PM (iydjf)

249 Over a million hogs perished in the China floods.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 06, 2021 03:44 PM (AtfPU)

250 if Europe is to be saved, it will be Eastern Europe that does it.
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's e Go Brandon, Lock Her Up!

It may just be a coincidence but I've noticed several times lately that innovative, creative things are coming from Eastern Europe, particularly Poland.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 06, 2021 03:44 PM (d9FiS)

251 216 IANAL is a new book at the elementary school.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 06, 2021 03:32 PM (AtfPU)

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Sounds like the latest app from the AppleStore.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Go Brandon, Lock Her Up! at November 06, 2021 03:44 PM (cUUIs)

252 I do hope the states sue and that there are class action suits against OSHA if they try to implement this.
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27 States have filed suit against Biden's vaxx mandates.

https://twitter.com/LifeNewsHQ/status/
1456658473823973390

https://tinyurl.com/ym3pmxzz

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 06, 2021 03:45 PM (UHVv4)

253 >>I went out shopping. The damn masks are back. Viruses are really small, they can cartwheel through the holes in a mask.

I took Elvis for a walk down on the beach today. There was a woman walking by herself on the beach wearing a mask.

I think some of them view it as a fashion statement now.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2021 03:45 PM (ZLI7S)

254 In reading the comments under Gov Abbot's tweet, I'm convinced EVERY leftist lunatic, down to the last he, she, and it, is active on Twitter.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 06, 2021 03:45 PM (/TTi/)

255 They can have the veggies but the rice is mine. So solly.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 06, 2021 03:45 PM (AtfPU)

256 No. 240. Thank you.

Posted by: Winston Smith at November 06, 2021 03:45 PM (TTpvK)

257
Prager is fond of saying that if America is to be saved, it will be the South that does it

He's also fond of saying America should be the world's policeman.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 06, 2021 03:46 PM (63Dwl)

258 It may just be a coincidence but I've noticed several times lately that innovative, creative things are coming from Eastern Europe, particularly Poland.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 06, 2021 03:44 PM (d9FiS)

Innovative and creative things flow from open and vibrant societies. They do not come from dictatorships, and they do not come from countries filled with masses of people who are scared of their own shadows.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 06, 2021 03:46 PM (trdmm)

259 27 States have filed suit against Biden's vaxx mandates.

**

That is so shameful that North Carolina isn't on that list.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:47 PM (QqXpN)

260 I took Elvis for a walk down on the beach today. There was a woman walking by herself on the beach wearing a mask.

I think some of them view it as a fashion statement now.
Posted by: JackStraw

Same thing with my little beach community. It's a virtue signal. And it makes me cry.

Posted by: nurse ratched at November 06, 2021 03:47 PM (U2p+3)

261 Game wardens are the only law enforcement that know going into the field, that any suspect they interact with, will be armed, ( and possibly dangerous if they're caught poaching.)

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at November 06, 2021 03:47 PM (R5lpX)

262 254 In reading the comments under Gov Abbot's tweet, I'm convinced EVERY leftist lunatic, down to the last he, she, and it, is active on Twitter.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at November 06, 2021 03:45 PM (/TTi/)

think it's easier to say that, with a few rare exceptions, Everyone on twitter is a leftist lunatic.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 06, 2021 03:47 PM (trdmm)

263 I took Elvis for a walk down on the beach today. There was a woman walking by herself on the beach wearing a mask.

I think some of them view it as a fashion statement now.

**

Another moron pointed it out:

It's the left's MAGA hat.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:47 PM (QqXpN)

264 Natural selection. Less votes from trumpsters.

Posted by: raimondo at November 06, 2021 03:48 PM (J8TpW)

265 What are the chances a lawsuit is filed for privacy violations under HIPPA or civil rights violations for asking about religious reason for not taking the clot shot?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 06, 2021 03:48 PM (JkZlQ)

266 Same thing with my little beach community. It's a virtue signal. And it makes me cry.
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Yeah, like me and like all my beach friends wear them! Groovy!

Posted by: Christine Blazing-Fraud at November 06, 2021 03:48 PM (iydjf)

267
Imagine game wardens with the ability to go anywhere, but with the automatic assumption that they can fine you not only for the shots but for EVERYTHING they see wrong. And they will.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:37 PM

like letting the Coast Guard board your boat for an inspection: ocne they step on board, the Coasties are de-facto agents for all the alphabet agencies...DEA / ICE / ATF / DoT / FDA / name one, they represent it

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 06, 2021 03:49 PM (DUIap)

268 Isn't Allen West running for Governor of Texas? Any of you Texans think he has a chance of knocking off Abbott the Boneless in the primary?

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Go Brandon, Lock Her Up! at November 06, 2021 03:49 PM (cUUIs)

269
Was Earl Warren a Republican? Off the top of my head, I'm gonna say yes.

________

Yes. Dewey's running mate in 1948.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 06, 2021 03:49 PM (kYXUC)

270 Game wardens are the only law enforcement that know going into the field, that any suspect they interact with, will be armed, ( and possibly dangerous if they're caught poaching.)

**

I meant it more along the lines that they can go anywhere they want. Anywhere. And lots of local law enforcement agencies take advantage of this.

"Hey Bob, can you check and see if this suspect has a hunting license? He does? Cool. Hey, would you come with us so we don't need a warrant?"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:49 PM (QqXpN)

271 >>Another moron pointed it out:

>>It's the left's MAGA hat.

Good point. Also sort of an IQ test.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2021 03:49 PM (ZLI7S)

272 If you're out and about and notice a business isn't making sure their customers are in compliance with the mask mandate, you can call 3-1-1, and they will send one of our Health Ambassadors do a business check.

Or you can dial 1-800-SMSTASI!

Posted by: Santa Monica! at November 06, 2021 03:49 PM (I2/tG)

273 In reading the comments under Gov Abbot's tweet, I'm convinced EVERY leftist lunatic, down to the last he, she, and it, is active on Twitter. Posted by: Chairman LMA

Wait until each pronoun used by these persyns has a separate Twitter account.

Posted by: LostInSpace at November 06, 2021 03:50 PM (dyt3B)

274 If you're out and about and notice a business isn't making sure their customers are in compliance with the mask mandate, you can call 3-1-1, and they will send one of our Health Ambassadors do a business check.

Snitches Get Stitches.

Posted by: The Future! at November 06, 2021 03:50 PM (I2/tG)

275 Rear Admiral Levine will be right with you.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 06, 2021 03:50 PM (AtfPU)

276 I see all kind of people alone wearing masks, they have made many germphobia

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:51 PM (2JoB8)

277 Gavin Newsom could not be reached for comment. Seriously, dude hasn't been seen in public since receiving his booster on 10/27.

Posted by: Slow Learner at November 06, 2021 03:51 PM (klu5V)

278 Isn't Allen West running for Governor of Texas? Any of you Texans think he has a chance of knocking off Abbott the Boneless in the primary?
Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Go Brandon, Lock Her Up! at November 06, 2021 03:49 PM (cUUIs)

Though I like West ( with the exception of his support for Pigford. He apologized after the fact) I don't think he can unseat Abbott.

Posted by: Just a side note at November 06, 2021 03:51 PM (2DOZq)

279 I took Elvis for a walk down on the beach today. There was a woman walking by herself on the beach wearing a mask.

I think some of them view it as a fashion statement now.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2021 03:45 PM (ZLI7S)

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I live an a predominantly conservative area, and I'm convinced the Lefty Loons still do it as a way of identifying "friendlies" from "foes."

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Go Brandon, Lock Her Up! at November 06, 2021 03:51 PM (cUUIs)

280 Good point. Also sort of an IQ test.

**

Yep. Deadly enough that you need a mask, safe enough that you can go to the Walmart and coffee shop every day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 06, 2021 03:51 PM (QqXpN)

281 Health Ambassadors do a business check.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 06, 2021 03:43 PM (NpAcC)
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How freaking Orwellian is "Health Ambassador?"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at November 06, 2021 03:51 PM (2SdPm)

282 106 Excellent. No offense to our various con law experts, like Cruz and Laura Ingraham(who I do not listen to any more) or that other blond lawyer, that I do not listen to any more), but why has not anyone of them suggested this mandate was unconstitutional? Or at least I have not seen them mention that."

Cruz made a statement on October 9 saying that it was unconstitutional, I looked it up. Here's the real problem - how can you know what he's saying when EVERY MSM outlet, including Fox, embargoes everything he or any other dissenting voice says?

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 06, 2021 03:52 PM (trdmm)

283 Think the testing weekly or sooner was just to break a person by monetary control.
To Roberts that would be just a tax for non compliance.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 03:52 PM (2JoB8)

284 My mask makes me so safe! It can even stop a bullet or speeding train! And it prevents cancer!

Posted by: Karen McWinemom at November 06, 2021 03:52 PM (iydjf)

285 Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted that Pelosi is house hunting in FL. DeSantis' ridicule should be epic.

Posted by: EveR at November 06, 2021 03:53 PM (MUpk6)

286 I am coming out of the closet. I am a member of the LGBFJB Community.

Posted by: Gref at November 06, 2021 03:53 PM (AMIL/)

287 Though I like West ( with the exception of his support for Pigford. He apologized after the fact) I don't think he can unseat Abbott.
Posted by: Just a side note at November 06, 2021 03:51 PM (2DOZq)

West does some good things, but politically he'll never shake the image as a carpetbagger. That may work in New York (Hillary), but it ain't gonna fly in Texas politics.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 06, 2021 03:54 PM (trdmm)

288 I thought it was interesting that our AG here in AZ was the first to file suit against the Brandon Junta over these vaxx mandates -- back in mid-September; it seemed like most other states and goups/legal teams were awaiting the actual publication of the OSHA verbiage ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Go Brandon, Lock Her Up! at November 06, 2021 03:54 PM (cUUIs)

289 Good point. Also sort of an IQ test.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 06, 2021 03:49 PM (ZLI7S)

To reveal the lack thereof.

No wonder raimondo sounds muffled.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 06, 2021 03:55 PM (P3gRi)

290 City of Santa Monica
@santamonicacity
If you're out and about and notice a business isn't making sure their customers are in compliance with the mask mandate, you can call 3-1-1, and they will send one of our Health Ambassadors do a business check.

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Do your Health Ambassadors wear hob nailed jack boots?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 06, 2021 03:55 PM (d9FiS)

291 Cinco de Circuito!

Posted by: El Mikloso at November 06, 2021 03:55 PM (QzkSJ)

292 Yeah, in many states Game Wardens can come right in your house and take a peek inside your freezer looking for poached wildlife (game species). What's unclear, legally, I guess, is whether they can act on the methamphetamine lab they notice on the way to the Kitchen.

But the DNR or other conservation agencies, they don't need a search warrant. So some LE agencies take advantage of this, I guess.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 06, 2021 03:56 PM (F0aU4)

293 If one mask is good 17 masks must be great. Get a booster everyday.

Posted by: Boss Moss at November 06, 2021 03:56 PM (AtfPU)

294 Fine, fuckers.

Next rule will be spacesuits for every employee and daily anal swabs!

Posted by: OSHA at November 06, 2021 03:57 PM (iydjf)

295 This is too good - apparently the key plaintiff in the case that caused the Fifth Circuit to issue the injunction is Brandon Trosclair.

https://thepostmillennial.com/
lets-go-brandon-trosclair?utm_campaign=64471

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 06, 2021 03:59 PM (I2/tG)

296 You may want to buy some food before we weld your front door shut.

Posted by: Xi at November 06, 2021 03:59 PM (AtfPU)

297 " If one mask is good 17 masks must be great. Get a booster everyday."

Excellent advice!

Posted by: Booster booster booster at November 06, 2021 04:00 PM (Tnijr)

298 285 Marjorie Taylor Greene tweeted that Pelosi is house hunting in FL. DeSantis' ridicule should be epic.

Posted by: EveR at November 06, 2021 03:53 PM (MUpk6)

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BREAKING: DeSantis Signs New Bill Into Law Taxing Former Speakers of The U.S. House $1 Billion/Square Foot of Property They Acquire in Florida. Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Go Brandon, Lock Her Up! at November 06, 2021 04:00 PM (cUUIs)

299 That was fast.

Posted by: blaster at November 06, 2021 04:00 PM (mbFEM)

300 This is downstairs now, PET thread is up

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 04:02 PM (2JoB8)

301 I hope this is the mother of all dominoes that starts the rest falling.

Posted by: bluebell at November 06, 2021 04:03 PM (wyw4S)

302 and they will send one of our Health Ambassadors do a business check.

Call and tell them each PP office is maskless. Every day. Every hour.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 06, 2021 04:04 PM (ESjRY)

303 I have been thinking while a construction site in my case never has 100 employees it could come up if a big project with collective companies all totalling 100.

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 04:04 PM (2JoB8)

304 With the circuit court's use of the word "grave", I'm holding out hope that SCOTUS --unlike with Obamacare--does the right thing.

After all, this is Biden, not the Historical First Chocolate Messiah that they would be refuting.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 06, 2021 04:05 PM (mR6Gs)

305
Bet Biden is still stuck behind a curtain.

Posted by: YIKES! at November 06, 2021 04:08 PM (t6XCL)

306 As for the legal side of this, let me be crystal clear to avoid what appears to be possible misinformation or disinformation around the emergency temporary standard being a vaccine mandate. That would be on its face incorrect as has been explicit for months. It is a standard for safe workplace to either comply with weekly testing or to be vaccinated.

Look, you can pay me $1 million, or I can cut your balls off. The choice is 100% yours. You have the freedom to choose. Nobody is infringing your liberty, here.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 06, 2021 04:10 PM (0ryfU)

307 Sadly my faith in the Supreme Court doing the right thing is about 0

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 04:13 PM (2JoB8)

308 I hope this is the mother of all dominoes that starts the rest falling.
Posted by: bluebell at November 06, 2021 04:03 PM (wyw4S)

Me too, bluebell. I honestly thought it was going to fall apart before now.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 06, 2021 04:14 PM (jm4rC)

309 How does this affect the medicare mandate and the other 367 circuit courts?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 06, 2021 04:14 PM (0ryfU)

310 It is a standard for safe workplace to either comply with weekly testing or to be vaccinated.

Look, you can pay me $1 million, or I can cut your balls off
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In steps OSHA to make it all clear.

Posted by: dartist at November 06, 2021 04:15 PM (+ya+t)

311 PETA calls for Fauci to resign.
Posted by: DeusExMachina05

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 06, 2021 04:15 PM (UHVv4)

312 Gawd. If I have to watch one more (insert generic drug name ending in "i" here) commercial about depression, I'm gonna kill myself.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 06, 2021 04:16 PM (axyOa)

313 Gawd. If I have to watch one more (insert generic drug name ending in "i" here) commercial about depression, I'm gonna kill myself.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 06, 2021 04:16 PM (axyOa)

Big Pharma wants everybody to be on "something" 24/7

Posted by: JoeF. at November 06, 2021 04:18 PM (mR6Gs)

314 Game wardens are the only law enforcement that know going into the field, that any suspect they interact with, will be armed, ( and possibly dangerous if they're caught poaching.)

Usually they are all alone too, its a dangerous job.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2021 04:19 PM (KZzsI)

315 Game wardens are the only law enforcement that know going into the field, that any suspect they interact with, will be armed, ( and possibly dangerous if they're caught poaching.)

Usually they are all alone too, its a dangerous job.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2021 04:19 PM (KZzsI)

Throw in the pot growers and meth labs, it's damned dangerous.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 06, 2021 04:20 PM (axyOa)

316 Why would Ashley B's attorney refuse to accept her diary from PV? What would be the reason for an attorney to decline?

Posted by: EveR at November 06, 2021 04:21 PM (MUpk6)

317 I really hope this goes somewhere, Mr. S put in for his exemption, I doubt he will get one, the CEO is a real POS, and scolded the whole company on Thursday after they did a company call on the mandate crap. He was furious that people weren't coming together and that there was an issue about getting vaccinated at all. I was listening and watching the call and it was disgusting (this is a huge well known company) He at this point he has until Jan. 4th to get the shot or lose his job. I would bet money that this company would continue the mandate even if it's struck down by the courts.

Posted by: spypeach at November 06, 2021 04:23 PM (Up/Jb)

318 Why would Ashley B's attorney refuse to accept her diary from PV? What would be the reason for an attorney to decline?

IT was all a set up, that Project Veritas didn't fall for.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2021 04:23 PM (KZzsI)

319 307 Sadly my faith in the Supreme Court doing the right thing is about 0

Yep. And Literal Handmaid strikes me as a Karen. shudder.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 06, 2021 04:23 PM (Bmy3R)

320 and they will send one of our Health Ambassadors do a business check.

Call and tell them each PP office is maskless. Every day. Every hour.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 06, 2021 04:04 PM (ESjRY)

Stasi fu*ks.
That's the best way to counter it. Flood them with thousands of calls.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 06, 2021 04:24 PM (axyOa)

321 BTW, while looking up something about smallpox because of Gates threatening the world with a smallpox bioterrorist attack if we don't listen to the Enviro oligarchy, I found the CDC's current description of the smallpox vaccine, "The smallpox vaccine protects people from smallpox by helping their bodies develop immunity to smallpox. The vaccine is made from a virus called vaccinia, which is a poxvirus similar to smallpox, but less harmful. The smallpox vaccine contains live vaccinia virus, not a killed or weakened virus like many other vaccines."

Gee, that doesn't sound at all like the mRNA "vaccines" that the CDC has changed three times to match their latest failures like no permanent immunity.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 06, 2021 04:25 PM (UHVv4)

322 At least I had company this afternoon

Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 04:27 PM (2JoB8)

323 Game wardens do not have the power without probable cause to enter private residences and its curtilage. They do have wide power to search open fields without a warrant or probable cause and stop vehicles, boats, businesses such as restaurants and cold storage facilities etc. to search for illegally obtained game or to enforce the Lacey Amendment.

Under probable cause, they have to either make application for a warrant or they have to have probable cause that a person has committed a crime using articulable objective facts derived from their investigation. Hot pursuit and other exceptions do apply to game wardens as they do to other leos.

Posted by: whig at November 06, 2021 04:27 PM (9hXN1)

324 Sadly my faith in the Supreme Court doing the right thing is about 0
Posted by: Skip at November 06, 2021 04:13 PM (2JoB

Government legitimacy is suffering across the board. And rightly so.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 06, 2021 04:28 PM (axyOa)

325 The CEO of Pfizer was arrested yesterday for fraud.

https://www.conservativebeaver.com

Posted by: Gwenn at November 06, 2021 04:30 PM (9Gr7n)

326 Rapey McBoof sides with John Iscariot Roberts in declaring the vax a tax.

sunny and 70 out. Nice day on the Front Range. Going to take a walk and try and walk off some depression.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 06, 2021 04:30 PM (Bmy3R)

327 Why would Ashley B's attorney refuse to accept her diary from PV? What would be the reason for an attorney to decline?
Posted by: EveR at November 06, 2021 04:21 PM (MUpk6)

Because he is part of the sting op?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 06, 2021 04:31 PM (P3gRi)

328 The CEO of Pfizer was arrested yesterday for fraud.

Looks like false news.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2021 04:33 PM (KZzsI)

329 327 Why would Ashley B's attorney refuse to accept her diary from PV? What would be the reason for an attorney to decline?
Posted by: EveR

It would tend to verify the contents of the diary.

Posted by: whig at November 06, 2021 04:33 PM (9hXN1)

330 The CEO of Pfizer was arrested yesterday for fraud.

Looks like false news.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 06, 2021 04:33 PM

It is, and it was debunked on here yesterday at least twice that I saw.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 06, 2021 04:33 PM (JUOKG)

331 https://www.conservativebeaver.com
Posted by: Gwenn at November 06, 2021 04:30 PM (9Gr7n)

That site is bullshit, heretofore unknown nic.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 06, 2021 04:35 PM (P3gRi)

332 CHESS/DRESS NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at November 06, 2021 04:37 PM (2JoB8)

333 Why would Ashley B's attorney refuse to accept her diary from PV? What would be the reason for an attorney to decline?
Posted by: EveR at November 06, 2021 04:21 PM (MUpk6)

Because he is part of the sting op?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 06, 2021 04:31 PM

They do not want to claim it because if they did, it would lend legitimacy to the claim that it is her real diary.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 06, 2021 04:37 PM (JUOKG)

334 Oh, ok sorry.

Posted by: Gwenn at November 06, 2021 04:37 PM (9Gr7n)

335 Did anybody go to jail for puppy torture?

What an impression this makes on young budding murderers.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at November 06, 2021 04:45 PM (IBOtG)

336 The headline on the Fox News website says "Biden Dealt Blow". I thought they were talking about Hunter.

Posted by: Tennessee Jed at November 06, 2021 04:56 PM (0X6/9)

337 5th Circuit (Texas baby), Ya Bitches!
Posted by: Maximus at November 06, 2021 03:44 PM

The suit was filed by Louisiana Attorney General Jeff Landry of Lafayette LA. The Fifth Circuit is in New Orleans.

https://tinyurl.com/xhhr9x9x

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at November 06, 2021 05:03 PM (T823z)

338 I could see them letting the vaccine mandate die, pretending to fight for it, letting the mask bullshit die, all of that die, then the economy explodes,

Look At That Beautifull Build Back Better

I'm actually surprised and perplexed they didn't do that first thing after they overthrew the government and installed their junta. Oh yeah! now I remember why they still made us all suffer needlessly anyway,

BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL FUCKING EVIL.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 06, 2021 05:33 PM (Mlkm4)

339 no permanent immunity.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 06, 2021 04:25 PM (UHVv4)

Not even temporary immunity, since after getting the shots, a person can still catch and spread Covid.

Posted by: Emmie at November 06, 2021 05:43 PM (t62xj)

340 I got the coof from people who were vaccinated. No question about it. I recovered despite my age because I was healthy but now have a whacked out heart rhythm ... which might resolve in 12 weeks or might not. The vaccines spread the damned thing. Thank you Fauci. Thank you China. Thank you Biden.

Posted by: itsacookbook at November 06, 2021 06:24 PM (yPxXc)

341 "177 She was on Twitter complaining about the jab safety and got banned. Of course she stated she was going to make sure her two younger kids would get the jab even after this.
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People like this are why we will never have nice things again."

rule of thumb, vigorously applied

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