Daily Tech News 30 September 2021

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96% of third-party containers deployed to the cloud contain known vulnerabilities. (ZDNet)

And 63% of code used to deploy cloud solutions is also insecure.

Basically if you follow the latest standards and best practices in deploying a containerised cloud solution, you're fucked.

I use containers - both the old and new servers are containerised - but for isolation, not for deployment. And I certainly don't use third-party containers for production (and rarely even for development).

Docker... Basically sucks.

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U.S. needs to work with Europe to slow China's innovation rate, says Commerce Secretary Raimondo. (CNBC)

That headline struck me as still more paid propaganda for China from the mainstream press, but that's unusual for CNBC. It's actually a direct quote:
If we really want to slow down China's rate of innovation, we need to work with Europe. ... We have to work with our European allies to deny China the most advanced technology so that they can't catch up in critical areas like semiconductors. ... We want to work with Europe, to write the rules of the road for technology, whether it's TikTok or artificial intelligence or cyber.
That doesn't mean it's not paid propaganda; it's just not CNBC getting paid off. Also the Biden administration has the IQ of cold soup.
Phison has shown a new PCIe 5 SSD controller for both server and client devices. (Tom's Hardware)

Toshiba already showed off controllers for server SSDs, but the client models are new.

These will support transfer rates up to 14GB per second. Which is a lot.
The users are always wrong. (UTK)

But so are the programmers, and so are the managers. The secret to success is to never try to do anything.
Russia has arrested the head of a cybersecurity company on charges of high treason. (Bleeping Computer)

Because he wouldn't roll over for the intelligence agencies running the ransomware gangs.
Digital pickpocketing the Apple Pay way. (Bleeping Computer)

Hackers can spend unlimited amounts on your Visa card from a locked iPhone without the phone ever leaving your pocket. Apparently does not work with Mastercard or with Android devices.

Researchers notified Apple of this a year ago.
An entirely different attack has been making the rounds on Android. (Bleeping Computer)

Malware embedded in at least 200 apps on the Play Store has been signing people up to unwanted paid subscriptions. The apps have been removed but that doesn't mean the subscriptions have been cancelled, and it certainly doesn't mean anyone is getting their money back.

Disclaimer: Try or try not, there is no spoon.

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 04:15 AM

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1 I am glad I have never uploaded any payment options to my phones. I am always leery of doing anything like that except directly to a particular... thing?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at September 30, 2021 03:22 AM (csEWM)

2 Romundo won't be around long, or it's a smoke and mirror message in a attempt to get people off the trail of Beijing to Washington highway

Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2021 03:27 AM (2JoB8)

3 "Cloud" and "containers"....

You mean "remote servers" right? Why not just say that?

Posted by: Cringe Biscuit at September 30, 2021 03:28 AM (Eus9b)

4 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 30, 2021 03:30 AM (arJlL)

5 Willowed: Emmie, good luck to you and your husband. You're in your car, you say. Is it cold yet where you are, or still hot?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 30, 2021 03:30 AM (c6xtn)

6 The *only* app I've downloaded to my Android phone (bought March 2020) was a simple calculator, since it apparently did not come with one. Nothing else.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 30, 2021 03:32 AM (c6xtn)

7 ZOD.

Posted by: ZOD at September 30, 2021 03:33 AM (xK9An)

8 Hiya Zodster !

Posted by: JT at September 30, 2021 03:34 AM (arJlL)

9 Staying away from apps on new tablet and phone, play store itself is annoying enough.

Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2021 03:42 AM (2JoB8)

10 I'm sure what they actually want is for the US and Europe to be the ones who spend trillions on the technology, and then someone in the White House will just hand these technology over to china free of charge....or may've just for the big guy's 10%

Posted by: Rbastid at September 30, 2021 03:44 AM (lpA/P)

11 I'm enjoying a bacon sammy.

Posted by: JT at September 30, 2021 03:46 AM (arJlL)

12 I new it was going to be slow start week so it's instant oatmeal and bagel again.

Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2021 03:49 AM (2JoB8)

13 Raimondo's public comments are as stupid as his comments here

Posted by: Braenyard at September 30, 2021 03:49 AM (nlbjl)

14 I'm so glad I don't have a smartphone.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at September 30, 2021 03:52 AM (Mzdiz)

15 Bacon on buttered toast and fresh homemade tomato juice.

Mornin', all

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at September 30, 2021 03:52 AM (Rye5Q)

16 Feeling better Skip?

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at September 30, 2021 03:53 AM (Rye5Q)

17 Moving in morning is hardest, still some chest congestion

Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2021 03:56 AM (2JoB8)

18 MLii getting over yours yet?

Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2021 03:56 AM (2JoB8)

19 96% of third-party containers deployed to the cloud contain known vulnerabilities.

Back when I was gainfully employed (and those were dark times indeed), the company I worked for decided "Hey, we aren't a software company, so we shouldn't write software. We're going to start buying software from people who know what they're doing. So they laid off a bunch of developers and went on a software buying spree.

At the end of it they were spending more money, had lost control of their business process ("the software won't allow us to do that"), and their money took what had been a core competence and competitive edge of the organization and turned it into a product all their competitors could buy off the shelf. As usual, the people who were responsible got promoted and moved on before it all hit the fan.

But in the end the worst part is they no longer have any idea what's in the code, since it's all proprietary. There are all sorts of security problems just waiting to blow up in their face, and there really isn't anything they can do about it, since the people who understood the company's core business process are all gone.

Posted by: Ace's liver at September 30, 2021 03:59 AM (wGeit)

20 Same as you Skip.

Coworkers daughter just tested positive. She comes into store everyday before school. (We have same symptoms).

She's mostly over it now her worst was last week (like me).

Coworker no symptoms. (Neither were vaxxed [nor I])

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at September 30, 2021 04:00 AM (Rye5Q)

21 So far Mr I or the boys have no symptoms . Mom either.

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at September 30, 2021 04:01 AM (Rye5Q)

22 Am I the only one who will go out and buy gift cards for the play store so there's no connection to my bank account or credit cards?

Posted by: Ace's liver at September 30, 2021 04:01 AM (wGeit)

23 Hiya MLiiGRAm !

Posted by: JT at September 30, 2021 04:06 AM (arJlL)

24 Hey JT !

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at September 30, 2021 04:07 AM (Rye5Q)

25 I am convinced it was a chess game, or another, on my old tablet that got me pop up video ads.

Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2021 04:08 AM (2JoB8)

26 A friend who I go to breakfast on Friday mornings has no cell, not even a flip phone. Crazy I know. How can he travel, eat, sleep. He travels all over the US. Does he still look for a payphone? He does sometimes buy a burner phone though.

Posted by: Colin at September 30, 2021 04:11 AM (ZTfi/)

27 26 A friend who I go to breakfast on Friday mornings has no cell, not even a flip phone. Crazy I know. How can he travel, eat, sleep. He travels all over the US. Does he still look for a payphone? He does sometimes buy a burner phone though.
Posted by: Colin at September 30, 2021 04:11 AM (ZTfi/)

Does he use platforms like FaceTime from his computer?

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 04:13 AM (TZgEk)

28 https://stream.org/why-youtubes-banning-of-anti-
vaxxers-is-so-ominous/
Yesterday YouTube banned all anti-Vax content.

Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2021 04:14 AM (2JoB8)

29 Heading out.
Make it a good day, all

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at September 30, 2021 04:15 AM (Rye5Q)

30 I think I've used the word "platform" wrong, there. FaceTime is . . . an app?

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 04:16 AM (TZgEk)

31 I got a cell phone many years ago after a business trip in which it wrapped up a few hours early and I wanted to catch the next flight home and I had no way to call the airline.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 30, 2021 04:16 AM (xopIz)

32 Should head down long road, Horsham JT
Been popping in often in day.

Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2021 04:17 AM (2JoB8)

33 Stay safe, MLii !

Posted by: JT at September 30, 2021 04:17 AM (arJlL)

34 I read somewhere that like 90 percent of those shipping containers in circulation are Chinese made. How do they get your computer data into them? Pretty wild.

Posted by: Galen at September 30, 2021 04:18 AM (Eus9b)

35 Stay safe, Skip !

Posted by: JT at September 30, 2021 04:18 AM (arJlL)

36 Good morning morons

Secretary Raimondo sounds as dumb as our troll raimondo.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 04:20 AM (EZebt)

37 28 https://stream.org/why-youtubes-banning-of-anti-
vaxxers-is-so-ominous/
Yesterday YouTube banned all anti-Vax content.
Posted by: Skip at September 30, 2021 04:14 AM (2JoB

Good article. TinyURL:

https://tinyurl.com/dskwbvfu

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 04:24 AM (TZgEk)

38 Just some random rambling, but I'm getting sick of the infrastructure scam.

When politicians talk about infrastructure, they're not talking about the interstate highways, or bridges, or anything the feds have a hand in. The support networks of technology, communication, and transport are not things they particularly care about.

They're talking about political infrastructure. The support network of political organizations - unions, megacorporations, NGOs, and contractors run by friends and family - that keep them in public office.

When they talk about spending $3.7 trillion on infrastructure, it's little more than admitting that they plan to dump the money on cronies, who will take their cut and pass it back at election time.

Then in another year or two, they cry great big crocodile tears about the state of our actual infrastructure, and run the same play again. The game ends when the torches and pitchforks come out.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 30, 2021 04:24 AM (xNrL5)

39 Dr. Jordan Peterson said that it's not the "banality of evil." It's the evil of banality.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 30, 2021 04:26 AM (xopIz)

40 die Ungevaxxten sind unser Unglück!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 04:27 AM (EZebt)

41 "Cloud" and "containers"....

You mean "remote servers" right? Why not just say that?

Posted by: Cringe Biscuit at September 30, 2021 03:28 AM

No, that's not what those terms mean. Or, rather, that's not all that they mean. "Cloud" is about stuff "as a service". It's not just that there's a thing out there on the Internet, it's a thing that you can access in an automated way. It's kind of like the difference between having a premium movie channel on cable and watching premium movies on demand. (cont'd)

Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 30, 2021 04:28 AM (ezpv1)

42 >>Secretary Raimondo sounds as dumb as our troll raimondo. Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 04:20 AM (EZebt)

Another well-educated fool. Her type really tarnishes the Ivy League brand.

Posted by: ZOD at September 30, 2021 04:31 AM (xK9An)

43 Another well-educated fool. Her type really tarnishes the Ivy League brand.
Posted by: ZOD at September 30, 2021 04:31 AM (xK9An)

Eventually, people are going to realize that the shine has worn off, and they will fall into obscurity. I'm just surprised it hasn't happened yet. How much worse does their product need to get before people stop valuing it?

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 30, 2021 04:33 AM (xNrL5)

44 Tom does carry a laptop, which he says is good enough for him. The only problem is not all hotels have the greatest WiFi.

Posted by: Colin at September 30, 2021 04:34 AM (ZTfi/)

45 From Sparticus

"India went against the instructions of the WHO and mandated the prophylactic usage of Ivermectin. They have almost completely eradicated COVID-19. The Indian Bar Association of Mumbai has brought criminal charges against WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan for recommending against the use of Ivermectin. "

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at September 30, 2021 04:35 AM (OAa56)

46 The secret to success is to never try to do anything.

That's on my family crest.

Posted by: Bruce at September 30, 2021 04:35 AM (vd8XM)

47 Tom does carry a laptop, which he says is good enough for him. The only problem is not all hotels have the greatest WiFi.
Posted by: Colin at September 30, 2021 04:34 AM (ZTfi/)

Your friend is a genius. Instead of sitting through a three hour remote meeting, where some complete tool is droning out a slideshow presentation in color schemes that make the eyes bleed, you just get to go:

"Sorry boss, connection's not good enough for a Teams meeting. Can you just send me an e-mail with the key bits?"

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 30, 2021 04:36 AM (xNrL5)

48 "Containers" are about virtualization. Using virtualization means that you can do all kinds of nifty things like gather together all of the parts to put up, say, a major Web site for morons, and manage those parts separately from everything else. If you do it right, that means you can reduce downtime in the event of errors or even reduce the chances of having errors in the first place.

It seems to me that most people using the terms "cloud" and "container" don't have a clue about what they mean, but that doesn't mean that the terms don't have a meaning.

Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 30, 2021 04:36 AM (ezpv1)

49 I had the same Spanish teacher for 3 years. She hated me.

She was born in Germany but escaped the Nazis and grew up in Colombia before emigrating to the US. So she had this odd German/Colombian accent.

She would glare at me and hiss "for such a smart boy you are VERY STUPID!"

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 04:38 AM (EZebt)

50 MSN article on YouTube's banning of some videos on vaccines has this statement:

"All of the government-approved coronavirus vaccines have gone through rigorous testing and have been scientifically proved to be highly effective and safe."

Isn't Pfizer the only vaccine approved by the US government?

https://tinyurl.com/xhtexfuv

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 04:38 AM (TZgEk)

51 Great news, the house suspends the debt ceiling for a year or two or four or five years. Nancy is busy sticking that broach she wears into congress critters asses to get what she and Uncle Joe want.

Posted by: Colin at September 30, 2021 04:39 AM (ZTfi/)

52 >>sitting through a three hour remote meeting, where some complete tool is droning out a slideshow presentation

This never appears in job descriptions.

Posted by: ZOD at September 30, 2021 04:40 AM (xK9An)

53 Quick diversion from topic - and a spoiler warning for anyone planning to view No Time To Die...

Think of the most insane and stupid things one could do in a film about 007, one that will likely destroy a franchise that's produced more than 6 billion dollars, alienate audience members, and eliminate the jobs of people in the U.K.'s film industry...

Yes, they did that.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at September 30, 2021 04:41 AM (LATrI)

54 46 The secret to success is to never try to do anything.

That's on my family crest.
Posted by: Bruce at September 30, 2021 04:35 AM (vd8XM)

heh

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 04:41 AM (TZgEk)

55
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 30, 2021 04:41 AM (DUIap)

56 Back when I was gainfully employed (and those were dark times indeed), the company I worked for decided "Hey, we aren't a software company, so we shouldn't write software.

Posted by: Ace's liver at September 30, 2021 03:59 AM

The people who made that decision don't know what a "core competence" is. Your business process had better be part of your core competence, or what are your customers paying you for?

Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 30, 2021 04:43 AM (ezpv1)

57 Lots of information about YouTube banning of some vaccine info in that MSN article, most of it maddening:

https://tinyurl.com/xhtexfuv

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 04:47 AM (TZgEk)

58 From the ONT: " Sounds like y'all Catholics need a good old fashioned antipope."

That's what we got.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 30, 2021 04:51 AM (xopIz)

59 Lots of information about YouTube banning of some vaccine info in that MSN article, most of it maddening:

And Rumble grows more powerful by the day.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at September 30, 2021 04:52 AM (OAa56)

60 >>>about 56 percent of the U.S. population has had two shots

https://tinyurl.com/xhtexfuv

And some of those are about to expire. So we're hastening to about a 50% coverage.

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 04:53 AM (TZgEk)

61 I wonder if people whose videos are banned can pin up illustrated transcripts of their videos? Or, say, PowerPoints?

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 04:56 AM (TZgEk)

62
Rumble, Substack, and bitchute are where you can find a lot of banned information.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 30, 2021 04:57 AM (Mzdiz)

63
I'm hoping Biden gets Restless Anal Syndrome from his 3rd ClotShot. Of course, he might already have it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 30, 2021 04:58 AM (Mzdiz)

64 26 A friend who I go to breakfast on Friday mornings has no cell, not even a flip phone. Crazy I know. How can he travel, eat, sleep. He travels all over the US. Does he still look for a payphone? He does sometimes buy a burner phone though.
Posted by: Colin at September 30, 2021 04:11 AM (ZTfi/)

If I got rid of my smartphone I'd get lost and never find my way home. I don't use any app on it save for Google maps, but I really, really need Google maps.

Posted by: Ace's liver at September 30, 2021 04:59 AM (wGeit)

65 Try or try not, there is no spoon.

I have a spork if you need to borrow it.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * can't find my quotient at September 30, 2021 04:59 AM (a2Y2Y)

66 A friend who I go to breakfast on Friday mornings has no cell, not even a flip phone. Crazy I know. How can he travel, eat, sleep. He travels all over the US. Does he still look for a payphone? He does sometimes buy a burner phone though.
Posted by: Colin

You're friends with Jack Reacher?

Posted by: Bruce at September 30, 2021 05:02 AM (vd8XM)

67 Morning, 'rons and 'ettes.

Posted by: olddog in mo, Pontoon Captain* (like a real captain, only drunker) at September 30, 2021 05:04 AM (ju2Fy)

68 Morning olddog!

How are you?

Posted by: Bruce at September 30, 2021 05:07 AM (vd8XM)

69 I had a tradition of going out for breakfast on Friday morning wherever I was.

For a while I went to the San Mateo County municipal airport cafe. All they made was omelettes for breakfast and burgers got lunch, it was awesome old-timey Peninsula place.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:08 AM (EZebt)

70 The people who made that decision don't know what a "core competence" is. Your business process had better be part of your core competence, or what are your customers paying you for?
Posted by: Cybersmythe at September 30, 2021 04:43 AM (ezpv1)

We were the top dog in product quality until about three or four years after that decision. Now all the big players have about the same quality (as perceived by the customers) because they're all using the same business practices encoded in the same 3rd party software.

And yeah, the people who made that decision had no idea what they were giving up. There's no way that company can distinguish itself now. Margins would be really thin if not for the fact the whole industry is a cartel.

The ironic part is it cost them more money in the end.

Posted by: Ace's liver at September 30, 2021 05:10 AM (wGeit)

71 Is Biden the healthiest President ever? Trump was always being diagnosed by the media for all sorts of issues. Uncle Joe, other than getting his booster shot, seems to never need a physical exam. Jill must keep him happy. What happened to Jill, seldom hear about her.

Posted by: Colin at September 30, 2021 05:11 AM (ZTfi/)

72 What happened to Jill, seldom hear about her.
Posted by: Colin

She has a difficult time even getting out of bed, because of all the Hot Joe Lovin'.

...MSM...

Posted by: Bruce at September 30, 2021 05:13 AM (vd8XM)

73 Morning, Bruce. Doing better, thanks. Soon as coffee's ready I'll be betterer.

Posted by: olddog in mo, Pontoon Captain* (like a real captain, only drunker) at September 30, 2021 05:14 AM (ju2Fy)

74 Soon as coffee's ready I'll be betterer.
Posted by: olddog

Great!

Posted by: Bruce at September 30, 2021 05:14 AM (vd8XM)

75 71 Is Biden the healthiest President ever? Trump was always being diagnosed by the media for all sorts of issues. Uncle Joe, other than getting his booster shot, seems to never need a physical exam. Jill must keep him happy. What happened to Jill, seldom hear about her.
Posted by: Colin at September 30, 2021 05:11 AM (ZTfi/)

She's teaching. Seriously, that's what Joe Biden said in that video of him getting his booster shot.

https://tinyurl.com/uec73yk4

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:18 AM (TZgEk)

76 Got lost in overnight twitter. Sonyamajor says Democrats will be disappointed in the law this year. Replies are all. Why was trump allowed to insert partisanship into the previously politic free SCOTUS? We need Biden to pack the court with 4 more liberal judges to make it impartial again. We need more judges since the population has grown so much. (Which tells me that the fools have never been stuck in a conference room with too many equals fighting for their desired outcome, only in top down meetings where their boss has told them what was decided fir them). Die already Breyer, so we can get a lesbian kindergartner of color on the bench for an 80 year term.

Posted by: Downcast at September 30, 2021 05:18 AM (JjMWb)

77 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 30, 2021 05:19 AM (u82oZ)

78 Just saw a meme:

They went pretty fast from free Krispy Kreme to firing you.

Posted by: Bruce at September 30, 2021 05:19 AM (vd8XM)

79
g'mornin', Salty

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 30, 2021 05:20 AM (DUIap)

80 Question for the future, that probably won't be asked by the White House Reporters Guild. Is Hunter going to bang his dead father's wife like he did his brother's widow?

Posted by: Downcast at September 30, 2021 05:21 AM (JjMWb)

81 It's a little too obvious the parroting of both rhetoric and policy across states and nations.

The themes electeds are putting out there are eerily similar and all of them laser-focused on that fvcking vaccine. Why?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:21 AM (EZebt)

82 Morning all! Can anyone on this smart military blog explain to me what in perdition FXX is doing with their new Archer episodes? Trivial, I know, but it's so bizarre - they drop their newest episode on Wednesday at 10 PM Eastern, 9 PM Central... and then they air it again and again up until Midnight or so, with an occasional bloc for It's Always Sunny, then back to back programming with the new episode until the paid infomercials take over.

Again, it's not something of earth-shattering importance, but I don't see the strategy FXX is following here. The individual episodes are streamed on Hulu following the Wednesday on-air release, so it's hard to see what FXX thinks they're achieving here.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at September 30, 2021 05:21 AM (LATrI)

83 A fluff piece on Jill Biden teaching writing at Northern Virginia Community College:

https://tinyurl.com/kr5raayb

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:21 AM (TZgEk)

84 Question of the day:

So if they go forward with this plan to fine employers into oblivion if they won't mandate the clot shot, where do we go to start barter-town?

Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 30, 2021 05:22 AM (+cGLu)

85 They went pretty fast from free Krispy Kreme to firing you.
Posted by: Bruce at September 30, 2021 05:19 AM (vd8XM)

===
It took 20 years for them to turn cops into white slavers.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:23 AM (EZebt)

86 81 It's a little too obvious the parroting of both rhetoric and policy across states and nations.

The themes electeds are putting out there are eerily similar and all of them laser-focused on that fvcking vaccine. Why?
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:21 AM (EZebt)

To suss out the True Believers?

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:23 AM (TZgEk)

87 Posted by: A. Pendragon at September 30, 2021 05:21 AM (LATrI)

Constantly tweaking a shows schedule is historically how management gets rid of things that are too profitable and popular to cancel, so they can replace it with one of their pet projects.

Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 30, 2021 05:24 AM (+cGLu)

88 >>>Jill Biden will teach on Tuesdays and Thursdays, with travel on days when she is not in the classroom.

https://tinyurl.com/kr5raayb

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:26 AM (TZgEk)

89 Downcast

The Supreme Court had made itself irrelevant. The country and the Deep State pays their decisions no mind.

They lost control when they did not stop the steal.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 30, 2021 05:26 AM (u82oZ)

90 >>>about 56 percent of the U.S. population has had two shots
-
And some of those are about to expire. So we're hastening to about a 50% coverage.

*

Not even that, really.

Per the prison data that just came out, the shots are 40% effective at preventing covid infection for the first two months, about 50% effective for months two through four, and only 30% effective after four months.

Fully vaccinated literally means you're slightly less likely to catch Covid-19 than the unvaccinated but you can still catch it, spread it, and die from it, all while risking side effects. Oh yeah, and every booster that you're now required to get to remain "fully vaccinated" comes with the risk of side effects.

Choose wisely.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 05:28 AM (3DjGn)

91 AltonJackson

How are you doing? Is your state getting smarter?

Kansas is limping along. The stupidity of our pols is amazing. Time to fire up some more Irish Democracy.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 30, 2021 05:29 AM (u82oZ)

92 Fully vaccinated literally means you're slightly less likely to catch Covid-19 than the unvaccinated but you can still catch it, spread it, and die from it, all while risking side effects. Oh yeah, and every booster that you're now required to get to remain "fully vaccinated" comes with the risk of side effects.

Choose wisely.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

And each booster increases your chances of dying above the chance of dying from the Kovid

Posted by: Bruce at September 30, 2021 05:29 AM (vd8XM)

93 where do we go to start barter-town?
----
I've been looking for the answer to this. I think I could fend off the pressure for a bit by becoming self employed... but the>100 employees floor for the mandate is unlikely to last long, in my opinion, unless we get another Trump- like miracle

Posted by: Xiao at September 30, 2021 05:30 AM (pxeD2)

94 Many thanks, Cato! Something similar seems to have been done with Chris Carter and The X Files (not to mention Millennium, the tragically-overlooked gem of a show, and Space: Above and Beyond -which had a lot of its story elements ripped off by the BSG reboot).

Posted by: A. Pendragon at September 30, 2021 05:30 AM (LATrI)

95 How's this for irony?

For 15 years I have been hunting for good nurses because they have been hard to find and very expensive.

Now, they are in abundance but the government prohibits me from hiring them at any price.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:30 AM (EZebt)

96 90 >>>about 56 percent of the U.S. population has had two shots
-
And some of those are about to expire. So we're hastening to about a 50% coverage.

*

Not even that, really.

Per the prison data that just came out, the shots are 40% effective at preventing covid infection for the first two months, about 50% effective for months two through four, and only 30% effective after four months.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 05:28 AM (3DjGn)

Thanks.

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:31 AM (TZgEk)

97 My extremely fit, very muscular cousin, who was a great guy, and conservative, died of COVID. And probable medical malpractice.

Hospitals be bad places for Pragmatists these days. Wish I was kidding.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 30, 2021 05:32 AM (u82oZ)

98 Per the prison data that just came out, the shots are 40% effective at preventing covid infection for the first two months, about 50% effective for months two through four, and only 30% effective after four months.

Fully vaccinated literally means you're slightly less likely to catch Covid-19 than the unvaccinated but you can still catch it, spread it, and die from it, all while risking side effects. Oh yeah, and every booster that you're now required to get to remain "fully vaccinated" comes with the risk of side effects.

Choose wisely.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 05:28 AM (3DjGn)

There is no diff in vaxed or unvaxed after 4 months. If directly exposed its 93% vs 89%. No stat diff.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:32 AM (yrol0)

99 So if they go forward with this plan to fine employers into oblivion if they won't mandate the clot shot, where do we go to start barter-town?

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That's one of the more disturbing parts of this whole thing. OSHA hasn't passed a regulatoin. OSHA apparently came out and said they can't, it's beyond their scope and reach. There is no law.

Employers are firing American workers in this economy for fun.

One has to assume they're looking ahead to massive government bailout money to shove into their pockets.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember last year when unvaxxinated workers were heroes? at September 30, 2021 05:32 AM (BGev3)

100 97 My extremely fit, very muscular cousin, who was a great guy, and conservative, died of COVID. And probable medical malpractice.

Hospitals be bad places for Pragmatists these days. Wish I was kidding.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 30, 2021 05:32 AM (u82oZ)

No iver No hcq no zinc and zpak?

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:33 AM (yrol0)

101 Salty, I'm curious if you want to say more about the medical malpractice. It's very serious if it resulted in mortality.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:33 AM (EZebt)

102 Prison study here

cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/pdfs/
mm7038e3-H.pdf

Seems like it would have to be fairly analogous to hospitals, doesn't it?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember last year when unvaxxinated workers were heroes? at September 30, 2021 05:34 AM (BGev3)

103 The Supreme Court had made itself irrelevant. The country and the Deep State pays their decisions no mind.

They lost control when they did not stop the steal.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 30, 2021 05:26 AM (u82oZ)

The deep state has made themselves irrelevant when they decided that the consent of the governed is irrelevant.

Posted by: flounder at September 30, 2021 05:35 AM (KnJdm)

104 There is no diff in vaxed or unvaxed after 4 months. If directly exposed its 93% vs 89%. No stat diff.
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:32 AM (yrol0)

**

Thanks. I was going by 29 year old memory.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember last year when unvaxxinated workers were heroes? at September 30, 2021 05:35 AM (BGev3)

105 83 A fluff piece on Jill Biden teaching writing at Northern Virginia Community College:

https://tinyurl.com/kr5raayb
Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:21 AM (TZgEk)

Go read her paper. Its stupid!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:36 AM (yrol0)

106 ...Employers are firing American workers in this economy for fun.

One has to assume they're looking ahead to massive government bailout money to shove into their pockets.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember last year when unvaxxinated workers were heroes? at September 30, 2021 05:32 AM (BGev3)
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Gleichschaltung

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:36 AM (EZebt)

107 Gleichschaltung
Posted by: San Franpsycho

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Wow. That's a great term. Thanks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember last year when unvaxxinated workers were heroes? at September 30, 2021 05:37 AM (BGev3)

108 My wife watches a lot of TV. I do not watch any.

She wants a booster shot. Her personal decision. Had a discussion on this, and it is her chosen path. I will not argue anymore.

I just said I will get no more shots, but I did get the good flu shot, because of my own personal issues. But nothing COVID. I am leaving my doctor of many years based on his attitude on COVID and ivermectin.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 30, 2021 05:37 AM (u82oZ)

109 105 83 A fluff piece on Jill Biden teaching writing at Northern Virginia Community College:

https://tinyurl.com/kr5raayb
Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:21 AM (TZgEk)

Go read her paper. Its stupid!
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:36 AM (yrol0)

I did, when it was first available online.

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:38 AM (TZgEk)

110 I was all for the vaxx when it was first announced last year.
Then I read more and more on what it takes to create a successful vaccine.
The stuff we got right now, ain't it.

Posted by: Bruce at September 30, 2021 05:38 AM (vd8XM)

111 The deep state has made themselves irrelevant when they decided that the consent of the governed is irrelevant.
Posted by: flounder at September 30, 2021 05:35 AM (KnJdm)

They are electing a new citizenship. Haitians and Central Americans and Terrorist oh my!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:38 AM (yrol0)

112 Gleichschaltung
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Very good find. Concise. On target. Thank you, San Franpsycho.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 30, 2021 05:39 AM (u82oZ)

113 40 die Ungevaxxten sind unser Ungl�ck!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 04:27 AM (EZebt)

Which is very nearly what Joe Biden is getting at with his "THIS IS A PANDEMIC OF THE UNVACCINATED."

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:40 AM (TZgEk)

114 I am leaving my doctor of many years based on his attitude on COVID and ivermectin.

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The scary part is that so many of them have no control over it, apparently. They work for MegaDoctorCorp now (thanks Obamacare!) and are told what they can and can't do, and if they step out of line and get fired they're not getting another job with that on their resume.

It's very eye opening to watch a therapeutic that is that incredibly safe that MIGHT help be outright rejected and ran into the ground publicly. Can't even try it. Going to be reported by the gatekeepers and lose your job for writing or filling the prescription.

I've lost so much faith in so many foundational elements of the U.S. over the last couple of years.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember last year when unvaxxinated workers were heroes? at September 30, 2021 05:40 AM (BGev3)

115 the act, process, or policy of achieving rigid and total coordination and uniformity (as in politics, culture, communication) by forcibly repressing or eliminating independence and freedom of thought, action, or expression : forced reduction to a common level : forced standardization or assimilation.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:41 AM (yrol0)

116 Hey, we resent that remark !

We haz smartness !

Posted by: a Mason jar of soup in sock's refrigerator at September 30, 2021 05:42 AM (jDHSU)

117 rhennigantx

Yes, but with the violent tendencies and thought patterns that turned potential tropical paradises into shit-holes.

Americans are much more productive. The Deep State choose unwisely. They truly want to rule in Hell. Something deep in our human ur-DNA.

There are solutions for that.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 30, 2021 05:42 AM (u82oZ)

118 I've lost so much faith in so many foundational elements of the U.S. over the last couple of years.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Remember last year when unvaxxinated workers were heroes? at September 30, 2021 05:40 AM (BGev3)

I think that is a good thing! Can you have a good relationship with a person, yes. Can you have friends and a few good times, yes. Can you expect the agency you allow to have life or death over you to be good, nope.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:45 AM (yrol0)

119 The parallels between what is happening right now before our eyes is EXACTLY what the Nazis did in their first months consolidating power.

Just substitute "Jew" for "unvaxxed."

People always think of Hitler as the all powerful dictator, when the truth is the Nazis spent years crushing and eliminating whomever they opposed, and building what would eventually become a vast state security apparatus for which they have become known in popular history.

But the truth is their hold on power was quite tenuous at least through the first 2 years of Hitler's chancellorship.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:45 AM (EZebt)

120 Here's some smartness:

"Jill Biden tries to keep her political identity out of the classroom and has said that many of her former students in Virginia had no idea she was married to the vice president." (of her teaching in 2009-2017)

https://tinyurl.com/kr5raayb

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:46 AM (TZgEk)

121
Singapore should put all the vax claims in a coffin. Take a look here (ourworldindata)

https://tinyurl.com/u3spm9vk

That's Singapore. The are now well over 70% vaxxed, pushing 80% with at least one dose. Look at the cases. Now, go to the "metric" click box, and choose deaths, and the percent vaxxed and all that.

Look at that explosion after the mass vaccination campaign.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at September 30, 2021 05:47 AM (Mzdiz)

122 Hitler did not become Fuhrer until after Hindenburg died and they consolidated the office of Prasident into the chancellery.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:47 AM (EZebt)

123 Regarding hospitals - before I retired from the ranks of Higher Ed, we had a nursing school paired with our other departments, and I was one of the few people from the Academic ranks who interacted with them and still count many as friends and respected colleagues. We bonded because a lot of us were smokers (yes, mea culpa) and from the isolated areas where smoking was tolerated, one could speak freely.

Which is going around the moon to say that these highly competent and professional nurses told me again and again "Do not, under any conditions enter into the care of a hospital alone." This was pre-Covid, so if one extrapolates from there to 2021, then there may not be a word for how Hellish hospital care has become.

Posted by: A. Pendragon at September 30, 2021 05:47 AM (LATrI)

124 I just sent to DOD the suggestion to rename Ft Hood the Maj Nidal Hasan Center For Workplace Violence.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:48 AM (yrol0)

125 The analogy of the yellow star with the vaccine passport is, I think, very effective even among the people who are pro-vaccine passports.

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:49 AM (TZgEk)

126 A. Pendragon

We had this discussion among my local Pragmatists at our Wednesday night meeting. Glad the word is getting out.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 30, 2021 05:49 AM (u82oZ)

127 People always think of Hitler as the all powerful dictator, when the truth is the Nazis spent years crushing and eliminating whomever they opposed, and building what would eventually become a vast state security apparatus for which they have become known in popular history.

But the truth is their hold on power was quite tenuous at least through the first 2 years of Hitler's chancellorship.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:45 AM (EZebt)

Question Did the Nazi become the East German brute force?

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:50 AM (yrol0)

128 Jill Biden tries to keep her political identity out of the classroom and has said that many of her former students in Virginia had no idea she was married to the vice president

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Hahaha

Way to go, Jill. Way to make that point about college students and the vast majority of the voting population better than any conservative ever could.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 05:50 AM (3DjGn)

129 Time to go. Work preps.

Have a great day everyone. Be that swan gliding serenely though choppy water. Never let them see the feet moving fast.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at September 30, 2021 05:50 AM (u82oZ)

130 Good morning. I thought tech thread crowd would have input on my ruminations.

If you were a government that was preparing to launch a major action wouldn't you surreptitiously begin to stockpile all the resources necessary to sustain that action?

Are there any ways to accurately measure producer output that do not rely on self reporting? Specifically how do we know how many computer chips are really being produced?

Posted by: Pete Bog at September 30, 2021 05:50 AM (bzrNB)

131 128 Jill Biden tries to keep her political identity out of the classroom and has said that many of her former students in Virginia had no idea she was married to the vice president

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Hahaha

Way to go, Jill. Way to make that point about college students and the vast majority of the voting population better than any conservative ever could.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 05:50 AM (3DjGn)

tldr
Ed students are idiots!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:52 AM (yrol0)

132 I am a healthy as a horse.

Do I want the "vaccine?"

Neigh.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at September 30, 2021 05:53 AM (xopIz)

133 Not knocking the local hospital for the care of emergency room patients, but the staff is usually over whelmed. I was in the hospital just a few months before Covid came out and people were lined up in the hallways and no rooms available. So when you read about no room at the inn,take it with a grain of salt.
Once you get a room, your pretty much on your own. Although the meals somehow always arrived. The constant ringing of the nurse calling system, and they do try to get to you as soon as they can. A lot of over crowding was around long before Covid.

Posted by: Colin at September 30, 2021 05:53 AM (ZTfi/)

134 The analogy of the yellow star with the vaccine passport is, I think, very effective even among the people who are pro-vaccine passports.
Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:49 AM (TZgEk)
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It is good, the Nazi Party issued actual "good health passes" to show the bearer was of Aryan race and had no genetic illness

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:54 AM (EZebt)

135 g'mornin' everyone !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 30, 2021 05:55 AM (jDHSU)

136 133 Not knocking the local hospital for the care of emergency room patients, but the staff is usually over whelmed. I was in the hospital just a few months before Covid came out and people were lined up in the hallways and no rooms available. So when you read about no room at the inn,take it with a grain of salt.
Once you get a room, your pretty much on your own. Although the meals somehow always arrived. The constant ringing of the nurse calling system, and they do try to get to you as soon as they can. A lot of over crowding was around long before Covid.
Posted by: Colin at September 30, 2021 05:53 AM (ZTfi/)

ER is how illegals get care. They have killed the system. Cloward Piven.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:55 AM (yrol0)

137 It is good, the Nazi Party issued actual "good health passes" to show the bearer was of Aryan race and had no genetic illness
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:54 AM (EZebt)

See China and Uyghurs.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:56 AM (yrol0)

138 134 The analogy of the yellow star with the vaccine passport is, I think, very effective even among the people who are pro-vaccine passports.
Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:49 AM (TZgEk)
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It is good, the Nazi Party issued actual "good health passes" to show the bearer was of Aryan race and had no genetic illness
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:54 AM (EZebt)

Golly. I did not know, or had forgotten, that.

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 05:56 AM (TZgEk)

139 Then in another year or two, they cry great big crocodile tears about the state of our actual infrastructure, and run the same play again. The game ends when the torches and pitchforks come out.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 30, 2021 04:24 AM (xNrL5)

That's not random rambling.

That's a laser-guided truth bomb.

Posted by: flounder at September 30, 2021 05:58 AM (KnJdm)

140 Question Did the Nazi become the East German brute force?
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:50 AM (yrol0)
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Former Nazis were "rehabilitated" on both sides, and I would argue this was done with greater continuity? in the East

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 05:58 AM (EZebt)

141 Once you get a room, your pretty much on your own. Although the meals somehow always arrived.

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I'm willing to bet $1000 that's related to at least half of the nursing home deaths last year. There's no way of getting the info, of course, because it's beyond measuring, but staff brings a meal into the old person's room, sits it on a table somewhere, and comes back later to pick up the tray. They don't give a damn whether the old man ate. They certainly don't sit and visit.

Family comes in and visits, helps eat, helps with bathroom problems, tv, etc.

Lots of old people died from loneliness and neglect caused by the response to covid.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 05:59 AM (3DjGn)

142 139 Then in another year or two, they cry great big crocodile tears about the state of our actual infrastructure, and run the same play again. The game ends when the torches and pitchforks come out.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at September 30, 2021 04:24 AM (xNrL5)

That's not random rambling.

That's a laser-guided truth bomb.
Posted by: flounder at September 30, 2021 05:58 AM (KnJdm)

Fed Infrastructure is about 5% of all Infrastructure. Privately own is around 60%. Another 15% is state. Local is about 20%.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:01 AM (yrol0)

143 tldr
Ed students are idiots!
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 05:52 AM (yrol0)

The academic requirements are extremely undemanding compared to other fields. See also: Journalism.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 30, 2021 06:04 AM (y7DUB)

144 my favorite acronym:

PEBKAC.

"Problem exists between keyboard and chair".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:06 AM (/EuRN)

145 People always think of Hitler as the all powerful dictator, when the truth is the Nazis spent years crushing and eliminating whomever they opposed, and building what would eventually become a vast state security apparatus for which they have become known in popular history.
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Like impeachment of a popularly elected president over intentional deception and misrepresentation

Posted by: Lrrr at September 30, 2021 06:06 AM (6siEC)

146 The working class is being purged of any malcontents. It is all part of the plan. Wife took the J&J to stay with Northwell. 1199, being a business, rolled over their members.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at September 30, 2021 06:06 AM (b+v9B)

147 WTF

They a pushing the vax on pregnant gals. WTF

They dont even recommend aspirin!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:07 AM (yrol0)

148 ...Lots of old people died from loneliness and neglect caused by the response to covid.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 05:59 AM (3DjGn)
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I literally said this to a state senator yesterday. The response was less than impressive. These Zoom meetings are as insulating to these people as the fence around the Capitol.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 06:08 AM (EZebt)

149 I wish scumbag pseudointellectuals would put more thought into how the State could prove its worth to Me than in how I could prove my worth to the State.

I mean, that chowder-huffing philanderer in the 60's pretty much covered this ground already, but he got whacked for it.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:09 AM (/EuRN)

150 147 WTF

They a pushing the vax on pregnant gals. WTF

They dont even recommend aspirin!
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:07 AM (yrol0)

"It's just a clump of cells".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:10 AM (/EuRN)

151 "U.S. needs to work with Europe to slow China's innovation rate"

Only socialists would think hindering someone else is a better use of our time than clearing the way to encourage innovation.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:10 AM (iFMeW)

152
They a pushing the vax on pregnant gals. WTF

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We were talking about this yesterday. Ont maybe?

Go look at the mayo clinic site on Covid-19 and pregnancy. It literally says it's a low risk for pregnant women and pregnant women are at increased risk.

In the same paragraph.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 06:10 AM (3DjGn)

153 I literally said this to a state senator yesterday. The response was less than impressive. These Zoom meetings are as insulating to these people as the fence around the Capitol.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 30, 2021 06:08 AM (EZebt)

I love this! I hope people learned that your Big Govt hates you!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:11 AM (yrol0)

154 144 my favorite acronym:

PEBKAC.

"Problem exists between keyboard and chair".
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:06 AM (/EuRN)

Ha!

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:12 AM (TZgEk)

155 In the same paragraph.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 06:10 AM (3DjGn)

You know, you're not really supposed to read the holy texts literally. There's lots of room for figurative interpretation.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:12 AM (/EuRN)

156 From the Mayo Clinic:

"The overall risk of COVID-19 to pregnant women is low. However, women who are pregnant or were recently pregnant are at increased risk for severe illness with COVID-19. "

Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 06:14 AM (3DjGn)

157 "The overall risk of COVID-19 to pregnant women is low. However, women who are pregnant or were recently pregnant are at increased risk for severe illness with COVID-19. "
Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 06:14 AM (3DjGn)

Of COVID/With COVID

cha-cha-cha

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:15 AM (/EuRN)

158 "It literally says it's a low risk for pregnant women and pregnant women are at increased risk."

These two things can simultaneously be true, but it's not very good messaging.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:16 AM (iFMeW)

159 PEBKAC

PICNIC -- Problem In Chair Not In Computer

Posted by: Lrrr at September 30, 2021 06:16 AM (6siEC)

160 I forget who here recommended it, but I got some coffees from Kensington Fresh Roast Coffee. It was really good, whatever methods i used on it (drip, french press, espresso), so I made another order and that's good too.

(Sorry King Harv. I'll try you out next time around.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:19 AM (/EuRN)

161 University of HAWAII Football home games can have NO fans in attendance, but they can at away games. Go figure.

gooder and harderer

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:20 AM (yrol0)

162 156 From the Mayo Clinic:

"The overall risk of COVID-19 to pregnant women is low. However, women who are pregnant or were recently pregnant are at increased risk for severe illness with COVID-19. "
Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 06:14 AM (3DjGn)

https://tinyurl.com/rujhnmad

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:20 AM (TZgEk)

163 These two things can simultaneously be true, but it's not very good messaging.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:16 AM (iFMeW)

look up cognitive dissonance

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:20 AM (yrol0)

164 Increased risk can still be low risk. Words do have meanings.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:21 AM (iFMeW)

165 161 University of HAWAII Football home games can have NO fans in attendance, but they can at away games. Go figure.

gooder and harderer
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:20 AM (yrol0)

Nothing to do with COVID. More that there are probably only about 5 U of H fans on all the islands together who would actually go to the home games.

This just makes the players feel better about it for once.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:21 AM (/EuRN)

166 "163 These two things can simultaneously be true, but it's not very good messaging.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:16 AM (iFMeW)

look up cognitive dissonance

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:20 AM (yrol0)"

also Orwellian "doublethink"

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 30, 2021 06:22 AM (jDHSU)

167 157 "The overall risk of COVID-19 to pregnant women is low. However, women who are pregnant or were recently pregnant are at increased risk for severe illness with COVID-19. "
Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 30, 2021 06:14 AM (3DjGn)

Of COVID/With COVID

cha-cha-cha
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:15 AM (/EuRN)

Good eye.
It's an editing problem.

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:22 AM (TZgEk)

168 Having said that, Ive made it clear that my opinion has always been that I believe that a third-shot booster for a two-dose mRNA [vaccine] should ultimately and will ultimately be the proper, complete regimen.

vaccinated
fully vaccinated
completely vaccinated
deeply vaccinated

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:22 AM (yrol0)

169 I don't feel like looking it up, so hordesource:

What is the relationship between the word "vaccine" and the genus of the blueberry "vaccinium". Anything? Or just coincidence?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:24 AM (/EuRN)

170 This isn't exactly an answer but it's in my desktop dictionary:

under "vaccine":

late 18th century: from Latin vaccinus, from vacca 'cow' (because of the early use of the cowpox virus against smallpox)

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:26 AM (TZgEk)

171 'morning...

Where does the time go....

Posted by: Oldowan at September 30, 2021 06:27 AM (Mfqer)

172 ha

Dollar Tree to Sell More Items Above $1 as Bidenflation Pushes Costs Up

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:27 AM (yrol0)

173 late 18th century: from Latin vaccinus, from vacca 'cow' (because of the early use of the cowpox virus against smallpox)
Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:26 AM (TZgEk)

Yeah, that's what I was thinking too, but I don't know how blueberries factor in to it. Unless it's just a false cognate.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:27 AM (/EuRN)

174 "Where does the time go...."

There's this old blind guy sitting on a hill who keeps it in a box.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:28 AM (iFMeW)

175 171 'morning...

Where does the time go....
Posted by: Oldowan at September 30, 2021 06:27 AM (Mfqer)

It goes where the flowers go?

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:28 AM (TZgEk)

176 something something repeat history

First year students at the University of Bath have been given armbands by authorities to signal whether theyve been double-vaccinated, with unvaxxed students having to wear a different color.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:29 AM (yrol0)

177 174 "Where does the time go...."

There's this old blind guy sitting on a hill who keeps it in a box.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:28 AM (iFMeW)

Oy! That's not just some "box", you schmuck! It's a Machine!!! And I'll have you know I paid wholesale for it, too! Now shoo!

Posted by: Moishe the Mossad TimeLord at September 30, 2021 06:29 AM (/EuRN)

178 yeah, that's more or less what I remember, m
& vnot sure where blueberries come in, at all ... though I suppose cows would like eating them.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 30, 2021 06:30 AM (jDHSU)

179
First year students at the University of Bath have been given armbands by authorities to signal whether theyve been double-vaccinated, with unvaxxed students having to wear a different color.

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The purpose could only be for ridiculing and othering the unvaccinated. Why not just open up a modern leper colony and throw them all there? Pure insanity.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 30, 2021 06:31 AM (O+I8R)

180 @176

>>First year students at the University of Bath have been given armbands by authorities to signal whether theyve been double-vaccinated, with unvaxxed students having to wear a different color.

Well this all seems to be escalating along the lines we knew it would.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 30, 2021 06:31 AM (cLlDU)

181 I want my time back, Moishe.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:31 AM (iFMeW)

182 If only we had millennia of observation and experimentation with airborne respiratory illnesses to pull from. This entire event would look so much sillier.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:32 AM (iFMeW)

183 Having said that, Ive made it clear that my opinion has always been that I believe that a third-shot booster for a two-dose mRNA [vaccine] should ultimately and will ultimately be the proper, complete regimen.

vaccinated
fully vaccinated
completely vaccinated
deeply vaccinated

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Fully vaccinateder.

Subsequent boosters get an additional er at the end. "I'm vaccinatedererer, so I'm better than you...nyah!"

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 30, 2021 06:33 AM (O+I8R)

184 181 I want my time back, Moishe.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:31 AM (iFMeW)

Too bad. I just sold the last of it to some guy in Brooklyn who goes by the name of a character in an old war movie and is really, really, really obsessed with birthday parties and something called "links". Sausages? Golf? Feh, who cares.

Posted by: Moishe the Mossad TimeLord at September 30, 2021 06:33 AM (/EuRN)

185 ok

A dad-of-three, from Sydney, has gone to extreme lengths to shorten the size of his 'long' penis so he could make his wife of 21 years happier in bed.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:35 AM (yrol0)

186 The Beatles were so right about you.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:35 AM (iFMeW)

187 I always enjoy pixy's disclaimers.
This one is a head scratcher

Posted by: Kiss my ass Milli Vanilli at September 30, 2021 06:35 AM (Tc2CN)

188 "First year students at the University of Bath have been given armbands by authorities to signal whether theyve been double-vaccinated, with unvaxxed students having to wear a different color.

Posted by: rhennigantx"

*speechless*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 30, 2021 06:35 AM (jDHSU)

189 @182

>>If only we had millennia of observation and experimentation with airborne respiratory illnesses to pull from. This entire event would look so much sillier.

Dude, we are back to square one, we don't know nothing about no respiratory viruses.

Or alternatively...

Them pulling NAC off the market kinda gives the whole game away.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 30, 2021 06:36 AM (cLlDU)

190 It goes where the flowers go?
Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:28 AM (TZgEk)

Time flies like the wind.
And fruit flies like bananas...

Posted by: Oldowan at September 30, 2021 06:36 AM (Mfqer)

191 MSM tells me the Republicans are working furiously to not increase the debt limit and force the US into efault. And no more SS medicare, Food Stamps, Obamacare , veterans widows checks .... Millions will die.

Posted by: Ripley at September 30, 2021 06:36 AM (MxEKc)

192 Ubervaxed

Posted by: f'd at September 30, 2021 06:36 AM (Tnijr)

193 180 Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 30, 2021 06:31 AM (cLlDU)

In real life the Stanford prison guard experiment used to need to be faked....

in this modern life it is a goal for Gen Tippy Cup.

Posted by: sven at September 30, 2021 06:36 AM (Lzpvj)

194 And no more SS medicare, Food Stamps, Obamacare , veterans widows checks .... Millions will die.
Posted by: Ripley at September 30, 2021 06:36 AM (MxEKc)

Suckers.

Posted by: Lesbian Cowboy Poets of America at September 30, 2021 06:37 AM (/EuRN)

195 What's NAC?

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:37 AM (iFMeW)

196 191 Posted by: Ripley at September 30, 2021 06:36 AM (MxEKc)

If it gets us liberty back...

Posted by: sven at September 30, 2021 06:37 AM (Lzpvj)

197 I don't understand the organizing of the Mayo site, but a lot of times if I google for some information at Mayo there are lots of Mayo hits and they are not the same page. So:

mayo vaccine pregnant

also pulls up this:

"Mayo Clinic Q and A: Should pregnant women be vaccinated for COVID-19?" (-->April 19, 2021)

https://tinyurl.com/3hxwwyxx

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:37 AM (TZgEk)

198 "187 I always enjoy pixy's disclaimers.
This one is a head scratcher

Posted by: Kiss my ass Milli Vanilli at September 30, 2021 06:35 AM (Tc2CN) "

it probably would have been clearer if it mentioned Capt. Picard.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 30, 2021 06:37 AM (jDHSU)

199 it probably would have been clearer if it mentioned Capt. Picard.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 30, 2021 06:37 AM (jDHSU)

There.... are..... four..... spoons!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:38 AM (/EuRN)

200 I see the GOP finally got a win. A baseball game but its a start.

Posted by: f'd at September 30, 2021 06:38 AM (Tnijr)

201 Them pulling NAC off the market kinda gives the whole game away.

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You can still get it at some places. I got a few bottles from Life Extension, a good and reputable supplement manufacturer.

https://bit.ly/2XY2w1s

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 30, 2021 06:38 AM (O+I8R)

202 Zweivax

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:39 AM (TZgEk)

203 "I always enjoy pixy's disclaimers.
This one is a head scratcher

Posted by: Kiss my ass Milli Vanilli"

Did you show your vax passport?

Posted by: Ripley at September 30, 2021 06:39 AM (MxEKc)

204 N - acetyl cysteine

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 30, 2021 06:39 AM (jDHSU)

205 Squid, NAC: N-Acetyl Cistiene. Yes, I'm spelling it wrong!

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 30, 2021 06:39 AM (O+I8R)

206 202 Zweivax
Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:39 AM (TZgEk)

Too few, untervaxxen. Get on the train.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:39 AM (/EuRN)

207
it probably would have been clearer if it mentioned Capt. Picard.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 30, 2021 06:37 AM

There.... are..... four..... spoons!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:38 AM

Use the Force, Neo

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 30, 2021 06:40 AM (DUIap)

208 very very sick people dying
A new study from Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health found that more than one out of every 10 people, or 11%, who were on a waiting list died due to COVID-19.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:40 AM (yrol0)

209 I'm sure we will deal with this later today:

Man Dies After Waking Up With Bat On Neck

Posted by: f'd at September 30, 2021 06:41 AM (Tnijr)

210 Forbes request (medical experts and epidemiologists):

We are hearing from a lot of families across the country who are developing COVID-like symptoms (headaches, sore throats, chest congestion, lingering coughs and exhaustion) but are testing negative for COVID-19. I would love to feature medical experts and epidemiologists who could respond to the following questions:

1. What are the current known chances of a false negative on a COVID-19 test?

2. Is it possible a new variant could be spreading that is not as detectable by the current tests?

3. Is there any known reported uptick in COVID-like symptoms without a COVID-positive test?

4. What other explanations are there for people developing COVID-like symptoms but testing negative for COVID?

5. What should a person do if they or their child tests negative for COVID but are otherwise struggling with COVID-like symptoms?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2021 06:41 AM (BE6Ms)

211 209 I'm sure we will deal with this later today:

Man Dies After Waking Up With Bat On Neck
Posted by: f'd at September 30, 2021 06:41 AM (Tnijr)

Wait til AtC gets here.

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:42 AM (TZgEk)

212 200 I see the GOP finally got a win. A baseball game but its a start.

Shocked they didn't strike out with bases loaded to end the game. They only seem to excel at failure theater

Posted by: Kiss my ass Milli Vanilli at September 30, 2021 06:42 AM (Tc2CN)

213 Man Dies After Waking Up With Bat On Neck

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I saw that! OMG, that was bizarre. Straight out of a Hammer movie.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 30, 2021 06:42 AM (O+I8R)

214 209 I'm sure we will deal with this later today:

Man Dies After Waking Up With Bat On Neck
Posted by: f'd at September 30, 2021 06:41 AM (Tnijr)

I tol' that mook to pay up how many times, now? Come onnnnn!

Posted by: Vinnie "Smith" with a Louisville Slugger at September 30, 2021 06:42 AM (/EuRN)

215 Thanks.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:42 AM (iFMeW)

216 "Shocked they didn't strike out with bases loaded to end the game. "

I mean, meaningless victories are their forte, but even that might be too much at this point.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:43 AM (iFMeW)

217 206 202 Zweivax
Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:39 AM (TZgEk)

Too few, untervaxxen. Get on the train.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 30, 2021 06:39 AM (/EuRN)

We were warned that Joe Biden was a train fanatic.

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:43 AM (TZgEk)

218 4. What other explanations are there for people developing COVID-like symptoms but testing negative for COVID?

Considering SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 infection shares something like 90% of symptoms with seasonal influenza, here's a radical theory... people simply have... seasonal influenza.

Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at September 30, 2021 06:43 AM (Do5/p)

219 @195

>>What's NAC?

OTC amino acid supplement that's been on the market since the 60's, it has antiviral properties and is being used as a prophylaxis to fight COVID.

There are studies showing it's effectiveness, a number of big pharma companies have been undertaking trials with it and are probably readying a COVID pill utilizing it so of course the OTC version has to be removed from the market.

Anything that's cheap and or OTC has has to be eliminated to continue the Op.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 30, 2021 06:44 AM (cLlDU)

220 "people simply have... seasonal influenza."

I heard last night on Maddow that seasonal influenza is a conspiracy theory.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:44 AM (iFMeW)

221 Pixy evidently prefers forks.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 30, 2021 06:44 AM (1c5s7)

222 Is Pfizer the only one out with a booster? I was wondering what happens to people that took the Moderna, but go for the 3rd booster from Pfizer.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 30, 2021 06:44 AM (O+I8R)

223 Biden's 'Build Back Better' Act Proposes To Increase Fines On Businesses TEN FOLD For Non-Vaxxed Employees

Any company found in violation of the Occupational Safety and Health Act will face a $700,000 fine PER VIOLATION

https://bit.ly/3CZc0c6

Posted by: Tall Cool Gentleman in a Black Suit at September 30, 2021 06:45 AM (Do5/p)

224 Yesterday I predicted everyone vaxed would turn into a Werewolf on Halloween. I might have been off a bit on my prediction, but vampires would be a suitable substitute.

Posted by: f'd at September 30, 2021 06:45 AM (Tnijr)

225 JJ in the grey

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 30, 2021 06:45 AM (yrol0)

226 220 "people simply have... seasonal influenza."

I heard last night on Maddow that seasonal influenza is a conspiracy theory.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:44 AM (iFMeW)

You literally watched and listened to Rachel Maddow speak from a television set? Or you're making this up.

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:45 AM (TZgEk)

227 "but vampires would be a suitable substitute."

Well, that sucks.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:46 AM (iFMeW)

228 people simply have... seasonal influenza.

I thought we eradicated cold and flu in March 2020? /snark

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2021 06:46 AM (BE6Ms)

229 "Or you're making this up."

That was a joke.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:46 AM (iFMeW)

230 "We are hearing from a lot of families across the country who are developing COVID-like symptoms (headaches, sore throats, chest congestion, lingering coughs and exhaustion) but are testing negative for COVID-19. I would love to feature medical experts and epidemiologists who could respond to the following questions: "

In the old days we to called this a cold.

Posted by: Ripley at September 30, 2021 06:46 AM (MxEKc)

231 229 "Or you're making this up."

That was a joke.
Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2021 06:46 AM (iFMeW)

whew

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:46 AM (TZgEk)

232 nood !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (jDHSU) at September 30, 2021 06:46 AM (jDHSU)

233 230 "We are hearing from a lot of families across the country who are developing COVID-like symptoms (headaches, sore throats, chest congestion, lingering coughs and exhaustion) but are testing negative for COVID-19. I would love to feature medical experts and epidemiologists who could respond to the following questions: "

In the old days we to called this a cold.
Posted by: Ripley at September 30, 2021 06:46 AM (MxEKc)

Burn the witch!

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:47 AM (TZgEk)

234 Or you're making this up.

I was honestly unsure about adding the /snark tag to my comment, until I realized (a) nothing is unbelievable anymore, and (b) many people have not had their coffee yet.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2021 06:48 AM (BE6Ms)

235 234 Or you're making this up.

I was honestly unsure about adding the /snark tag to my comment, until I realized (a) nothing is unbelievable anymore, and (b) many people have not had their coffee yet.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2021 06:48 AM (BE6Ms)

Please always add them for the caffeine-deficient.

Posted by: m at September 30, 2021 06:48 AM (TZgEk)

236
Jill Biden tries to keep her political identity out of the classroom and has said that many of her former students in Virginia had no idea she was married to the vice president. She also did not talk about it. Secret Service agents accompanied her for security, but she had them dress casually and tote backpacks in an attempt to blend into the campus environment.

I'll bet that her SS handlers were as aces at blending in with their "Hello, Fellow Students!" as their compadres were at the 9/18 event it DC.

"Say, these new Beats earpieces sure do convey an authentic sense of 'being there' for this Vanilla Ice rapper fellow's 'live at Costco' performance! Is he a favorite performer of yours, too, fellow community college students?"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 30, 2021 06:50 AM (pNxlR)

237 Two things I will NEVER do with my cell phone:

1) Set it up to "pay" for through Google Pay

2) Buy an app and thus be forced to give my credit card to Google Play

It's bad enough I use my credit card through the Amazon app....

Posted by: Tex Lovera at September 30, 2021 07:37 AM (wtvvX)

238 Containers, ugh. Plus the dev environment for those systems are oh so easy to use. Nothing like limiting functionality, and creating an entire new way of development.

Posted by: JayInAmes at September 30, 2021 07:46 AM (yGu6h)

239 I don't think I would describe China's widespread theft of Western inventions and technology as "innovation."

Posted by: MW at September 30, 2021 11:27 AM (u33s0)

240 '[...] China's rate of innovation [...]"

Shouldn't that be 'China's rate of theft'?

Posted by: aelfheld at September 30, 2021 03:48 PM (Zy9Yy)

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