How did we get to this day?

The Tower of Voices, Flight 93 Memorial

Philadelphia Inquirer:

SHANKSVILLE, Pa. -- The Flight 93 National Memorial isn't really a place people stumble into. Tucked off of Route 30 in Somerset County, the memorial mostly draws visitors with ties to victims of 9/11 or -- this year in particular -- with a purposeful desire to remember what happened there. . .
The memorial, which took 14 years to build and opened in 2015, is a cemetery for the victims of the crash and a memorial site and museum that gets about 300,000 visitors every year. . .

While the memorial is remote, some do come upon it unexpectedly. James Bennett hit a traffic jam on I-76 last month heading back to his Army base in Mount Laurel when he saw a sign for the Flight 93 memorial. . .
Bennett has done seven tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. He joined the Army in July 2001 before the nation's sense of security shattered. Back then, with a baby on the way, he thought his specialty -- disarming bombs -- would make for fewer deployments. "We didn't have a lot of terrorists back then," he said.
He was on delayed enlistment when he watched the planes smash into the twin towers.

At the memorial, he thought about the courage of the people on Flight 93 and what might have happened if someone trained in explosives, able to identify a fake bomb, had been on board. It's widely suspected that the terrorists used fake bombs to control the passengers.
"Just one guy, that's all they needed to stop that," he said.

For most of the time Bennett has been in the Army, the United States has been at war.
He walked the pathway down to the memorial as monarch butterflies and bees flitted among Brown-eyed Susans in the meadow that had been Flight 93's debris field.
"I got about halfway down there and I turned into a blabbering little crybaby," he said. "It's pretty heavy, especially with all the stuff going on recently."

For him, the memorial symbolizes the start of a war that has finally ended, but not in the way he'd expected.
"This is the second time I've watched terrorists take back countries that I was in," he said of the withdrawals from Afghanistan and Iraq.
He has four months before he retires. He wants to spend more time with his wife and two children, who are 19 and 7, in Erie.
"I'm ready to get out," he said. "Twenty years is a long time."

The people who run these wars, or campaigns, or whatever do not deserve people like James Bennett. I think he has the right idea about what he should do next.

There are some other poignant stories in the Philadelphia Inquirer piece, too.

Photos of the memorial in 2014

The Wall of Names

How did we get to this day?

Michael Knowles tracked down George H.W. Bush's references in speeches to a New World Order after an Australian politician accidentally let the phrase slip.

The plans for this New World Order sound sort of . . . utopian. You know, Wilsonian.

Here's how some of those plans worked out in real life. One man's view. David P. Goldman, August 22, on the Dr. Frankensteins of Foreign Policy:

John Quincy Adams said that America "goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy." He never imagined that America would go abroad to create monsters. The Endless War crowd is now coming out of the woodwork to argue that endless wars are better than what Biden served up in Afghanistan.

. . . The Afghan Army was a reality show with hired actors who stole the props. But it's even worse than that. Petraeus and his colleagues trained, funded, and unleashed a global jihadist movement in the name of "counterinsurgency." It has to be the most self-defeating action on the part of any great power in history. Our foreign policy Establishment is incapable of learning from its most egregious blunders.

Here's an extract from my 2020 book You Will Be Assimilated: China's Plan to Sino-Form the World:

Over dinner, in 2015, Admiral Luo Yuan told me that "General Petraeus created ISIS in order to destabilize China."
"That's ridiculous," I said.
"It is not ridiculous in the least," Luo continued, in the benevolent tone in which one instructs especially slow students. "There are ISIS leaders whom we have identified and tracked, who were trained by Petraeus during the 'Surge,'" the counter-insurgency campaign that Petraeus conducted in 2008-2009 to contain a Sunni rebellion against the majority Shi'ite government that the United States had helped bring to power in 2007.
I took a deep breath and explained: "This was a comedy of errors. The neo-conservatives in the Bush administration believed in majority rule as a matter of dogma, so the US held elections in 2007 and the Shi'ite minority won. Then the Sunnis who used to run Iraq under Saddam Hussein resisted with guerilla war and terrorist attacks. Petraeus was just a careerist looking for another star, and he told the Bush Administration that he could fix the Sunni problem by paying off the Sunni tribal leaders. He handed out hundreds of millions of dollars to the Sunnis and gave them weapons and training through the 'Sons of Iraq' and the 'Sunni Awakening.'" When Obama took US forces out of Iraq, a lot of the same Sunnis who took money from Petraeus faced the same Shi'ite state, and became non-state actors, that is ISIS. And the CIA's support for Sunni jihadist opponents of the Assad government in Syria made matters worse, as the Defense Intelligence Agency warned in a notorious 2012 report."
Of course, I wasn't quite that coherent, but that was the gist of my reply.
My Chinese interlocutor was not impressed. "You're trying to tell me that the people who run the world's great superpower are complete idiots who don't think about the consequences of their actions?". . .
That was exactly what I was trying to tell the Chinese admiral: American policy has indeed been run by complete idiots who don't think about the consequences of their actions. . .

Historical examples from various wars follow.

There were dissidents, even in our government, who opposed nation-building in Afghanistan:

I can testify that Rumsfeld did say at the time that the US should break up Al Qaida and go home but for raids against visible terrorists, but the Counterinsurgency (=military malpractice) experimenters, liberal interventionists, feminist liberators became the "Kabul consensus"

Here is Angelo Codevilla, August 24, on Afghanistan, Graveyard of Narratives:

Disaster in Kabul having elicited a mass of nearly indistinguishable pile-on commentary by uninformed persons, it may be useful for me, who am all too deeply familiar with U.S. intelligence in general, and who have been involved with the U.S. government's activities in Afghanistan and regarding terrorism since 1979, to write this memorandum as a record to distinguish between the several "narratives" on the subject, and what we know to be factually true.
Between 1979 and 1985, when I took the lead on Afghan matters for the Senate Intelligence Committee, the CIA had no sources in Afghanistan, and had assigned all of one-and-a-half full-time persons at its station in Islamabad to Afghan matters. None had direct contact with Afghans. When I took two CIA officers to meet with the Mujahedeen, along with a staff delegation, they were the first to have any contact. But the Agency's ignorance of the place did not prevent it from being a major player in U.S. policy. That did not change until, after 2001, the CIA flooded the place with its usual "official cover" parroters of "narratives."

What did the U.S. government actually do in Afghanistan and Iraq? Only the things it really cares to or knows how to do--namely, richly to hire its favorite people to try reshaping mankind in their own image. Since WWII, whether in the name of anti-communism, anti-terrorism, democracy, or humanitarianism, it's always the same: dismiss the substance of local quarrels; recast the local scene in terms of American elites' concerns; find locals who agree, and form "coalition governments" that, supposedly, represent the people's aspirations, regardless of what these might be; send in the American experts on everything from education to women's rights, with their recipes and their billions of dollars; and treat as terrorists any locals who disagree strongly.
Of the many reasons why this formula has always produced rejection, one is enough to explain the rest. The U.S. formula is purely administrative and even mercenary. It is without soul, wholly abstracting from traditions and affections, never mind from religion and systems of justice. Over the globe, through millennia, people have come together on a bewildering variety of bases. Seldom has mere administration served that purpose, even if competent, especially if by foreigners, and especially if in contradiction to customs.

Emphasis mine. You might want to read the whole thing.

J.J. Sefton highlighted this piece in Thursday's Morning Report: The Taliban paints over George Floyd Mural

Here is the mural that was featured in Kabul:

George Floyd is a preoccupation of The Elite, having nothing to do with Afghanistan.

What can we do differently?

If you really want to fight racism, recall Gavin Newsom and vote for Larry Elder. Remind your friends and family in California that Tuesday is the last day to vote.

Incidentally, Jussie Smollett disguises himself as Larry Elder so people will commit real hate crimes against him. From the Newspaper of Record. Not the scurrilous Los Angeles Times.

J.J. Sefton also picked up this great piece by Theodore Dalrymple, from 2001, What we have to lose: Our Civilization:

Whenever we learn of events of world-shaking significance, of catastrophes or massacres, we are inclined not only to feel ashamed (all too briefly) of our querulous preoccupation with our own minor tribulations but also to question the wider value of all our activities. I do not know whether people who are faced by death in a few seconds' time see their lives flash before them, as they are said to do, and pass final judgment upon them; but whenever I read something about the Khmer Rouge, for example, or the genocide in Rwanda, I reflect for a time upon my own life and dwell a little on the insignificance of my efforts, the selfishness of my concerns, the narrowness of my sympathies.

. . . an image recurs in my mind: that of the pianist Myra Hess playing Mozart in London's National Gallery even as the bombs were falling during the Second World War. I was born after the war ended, but the quiet heroism of those concerts and recitals, broadcast to the nation, was still a potent symbol during my childhood. It was all the more potent, of course, because Myra Hess was Jewish, and the enemy's anti-Semitism was central to its depraved view of the world; and because the music she played, one of the highest peaks of human achievement, emanated from the very same land as the enemy's leader, who represented the depths of barbarism.
No one asked, "What are these concerts for?" . . .

For the last decade, I have been observing close-up, from the vantage point of medical practice, the effects upon a large and susceptible population of the erosion of civilized standards of conduct brought about by the assault upon them by intellectuals.

If any good comes of the terrible events in New York, let it be this: that our intellectuals should realize that civilization is worth defending, and that the adversarial stance to tradition is not the beginning and end of wisdom and virtue. We have more to lose than they know.

It's really a great essay with examples of resistance to brutality and totalitarianism, but you have to read the whole thing to get the full import of his words.

There are things we can do at home, with our family and friends and in our communities to defend civilization. The intellectuals, the elite, and those in The Cathedral are not going to do it. No more of this:

Music

Schumann

More Schumann

What kids are doing in Poland. The pianist is 15 years old.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Here is Steven Hayward's Week in Pictures: Long Strange Trip Edition, in case you need it. Blutarski already posted a link in the comments to the EMT this morning.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:14 AM

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Posted by: AltonJackson at September 11, 2021 10:18 AM (DUIap)

2 Morning.

Posted by: olddog in mo, Pontoon Captain* (like a real captain, only drunker) at September 11, 2021 10:18 AM (AwkCO)

3 How did we get to this day?

**

"Aww shucks. T'weren't nuthin."

- FBI, CIA, NSA, etc

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 11, 2021 10:20 AM (kb4+v)

4 Today is an especially auspicious time to reflect on America's racist roots.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 11, 2021 10:22 AM (VxC1e)

5
bush 41 brought us Somalis, bush 43 brought us Iraqi, Afghan and a crapload of other muslim refugees

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:22 AM (bTQ72)

6 Willowed:

The war on terror is going great... for the terrorists. It is a sad remembrance day coming on the heels of our shameful exit from Shitcanistan.
Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 11, 2021 10:10 AM (flINI)

The "war" was lost for two reasons, IMO:

- we didn't turn Mecca into a glowing parking lot;
- a bastard named Barack Hussein Obama was allowed to run for POTUS.

"Never forget" has become a sick joke.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2021 10:23 AM (2JVJo)

7 The same people using lawfare to impose multiculturalism on us are using warfare to impose western mores on the entire world.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 11, 2021 10:23 AM (7MBHe)

8 Good morning Hordemates.
Tis a somber morning.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 11, 2021 10:24 AM (axyOa)

9 Still would like to go to Shanksville someday

Posted by: Skip's Phone at September 11, 2021 10:25 AM (2JoB8)

10 After 20 years of the so-called War on Terror, the most important lesson we learned is that LGBTQWERTY+ indoctrination won't fly in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 11, 2021 10:25 AM (VxC1e)

11 We're a disappointment and just as much of a threat to the U.S. as al-Qaida, says George Jr.

"They are children of the same foul spirit." - GWB

Posted by: lowandslow at September 11, 2021 10:25 AM (4thlk)

12 At least Al Qaeda didn't gain any territory in the last 20 years.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 11, 2021 10:26 AM (kb4+v)

13 I see Andy Ngo now has the ghey flag on his Twitter profile.

Posted by: Hmmm at September 11, 2021 10:26 AM (RFMGT)

14 Oh, fun fact:

Pakistan helped Al Qaeda take over Afghanistan. Now Al Qaeda is working on taking over Pakistan.

You know. Pakistan.

The place with nukes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 11, 2021 10:27 AM (kb4+v)

15 Ngo homo

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 11, 2021 10:28 AM (kb4+v)

16 - I see Andy Ngo now has the ghey flag on his Twitter profile.

he is gay, you knew that right?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:28 AM (bTQ72)

17 You know. Pakistan.

The place with nukes.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 11, 2021 10:27 AM (kb4+v)

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Iran will beat them to the punch. With our help.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 11, 2021 10:28 AM (VxC1e)

18 Oh, fun fact:

Pakistan helped Al Qaeda take over Afghanistan. Now Al Qaeda is working on taking over Pakistan.

You know. Pakistan.

The place with nukes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 11, 2021 10:27 AM (kb4+v)

Not to worry. Our government has a plan for that contingency.

Posted by: flounder at September 11, 2021 10:29 AM (KnJdm)

19 Not to worry. Our government has a plan for that contingency.
Posted by: flounder at September 11, 2021 10:29 AM (KnJdm)

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Top men are working in it.

Top.

Men.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 11, 2021 10:30 AM (VxC1e)

20 In any event, it is a lovely day here in NE MA. I just got my bike out of the shop and I am going to take a nice ride out to Essex for some fried clams (Farnham's, not Woodman's, for those of you in the area) and then out to wander around Rockport.

I hope you all have a lovely day.

Perhaps a little music both elegiac and calming? Ravel's Pavane for a Dead Princess:

https://tinyurl.com/5ev5ccxc

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2021 10:30 AM (2JVJo)

21 I will put the flag out today but not for labor day.

Posted by: lin-duh at September 11, 2021 10:30 AM (UUBmN)

22
hey, all those Harvard and Yale muthafukkas, who are smarter than us, they got this. we should not worry

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:30 AM (bTQ72)

23 Ja rozumiem po polsku

Magyarul is

I could probably get a job over there again.

And citizenship

Posted by: Miklos, discontent personified at September 11, 2021 10:31 AM (QzkSJ)

24 "I see Andy Ngo now has the ghey flag on his Twitter profile."

That guy is one weird dude. He's one of the few people that accurately reports on what Antifa is doing on the ground but he's never been someone that I would go to for political opinions.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 11, 2021 10:31 AM (4thlk)

25 he is gay, you knew that right?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:28 AM (bTQ72)

Yes but I just found out last year bc he didn't wear it on his sleeve.

Posted by: Hmmm at September 11, 2021 10:31 AM (4wLJI)

26 So how are evacuation efforts of our troops from Britain and Germany and Japan going?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 11, 2021 10:32 AM (kb4+v)

27
head choppin vids are now circulating again

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:33 AM (bTQ72)

28 In his speech today, Bush 43 condemned extremists "at home and abroad."

Who's he referring to?

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2021 10:33 AM (ZHVt1)

29 I will NEVER forget.
My dad was 15 when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor. He'll never forget either event.
I'd been working late the night of 9/10, so I was asleep;
My Dad called me that morning and said, "They finally did it. Turn on the TV". I'll never forget watching the 2nd tower hit fall to the ground, I'll never forget how the Palis were ululating and passing out candy.
THIS should have been a lesson of who our friends and enemies were (domestic and foreign).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:33 AM (ynpvh)

30 Oh ffs! Go.Away!

@ABCPolitics 20m

Former Pres. George W. Bush speaks to extremism both abroad and at home: "There is little cultural overlap between violent extremists abroad and violent extremists at home, but then there's disdainful pluralism...they are children of the same foul spirit."

https://tinyurl.com/yj45enop

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2021 10:34 AM (cF8AT)

31 I would rather have Ngo on my team than anyone at the Lincoln project

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 11, 2021 10:34 AM (KY0uc)

32 28 In his speech today, Bush 43 condemned extremists "at home and abroad."

Who's he referring to?

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2021 10:33 AM (ZHVt1)

Given his and this admin's hatred of the Constitution, he might be talking about this admin and himself. /sarc

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:34 AM (ynpvh)

33 28 In his speech today, Bush 43 condemned extremists "at home and abroad."

Who's he referring to?
Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2021 10:33 AM (ZHVt1)

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I'm guessing it isn't adherents of the Religion of Peace.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 11, 2021 10:34 AM (VxC1e)

34 The greatest sealift in history never known outside of the NY/NJ area.

https://youtu.be/MDOrzF7B2Kg

Posted by: BluesFish at September 11, 2021 10:35 AM (kPJ/p)

35 Former Pres. George W. Bush should shut up and never be heard from in public again. Ass.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 11, 2021 10:35 AM (7MBHe)

36 Lessons the US may never learn:

1. If avoiding collateral damage and casualties is the Number One Rule of War for the US, we will never win.

2. Treating your enemies and all foreigners nicely will rarely make them like you. You cannot MAKE people like you.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2021 10:36 AM (AMIL/)

37 18 Oh, fun fact:
Pakistan helped Al Qaeda take over Afghanistan. Now Al Qaeda is working on taking over Pakistan.
You know. Pakistan.
The place with nukes.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) remember when they cancelled the foreign policy presidential debate? at September 11, 2021 10:27 AM (kb4+v)
Not to worry. Our government has a plan for that contingency.

Posted by: flounder at September 11, 2021 10:29 AM (KnJdm)

Yeah, help Iran get nukes. What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:36 AM (ynpvh)

38 MPPPP-I have not forgotten yet. Every anniversary I look at photos and stories of heroes that day. I ultimately have no control over what politicians do. I do have control over how I spend time on 9/11

9/11-20th anniversary

Remember not just the horrors but the heroes. They were all wonderful people, but my favorite because he originally came from Cornwall, (where my sister and BIL live) was Rick Rescorla, who was singing "Men of Harlach" while leading people out, and because I appreciated his salty language in dealing with a stupid supervisor at Morgan Stanley who wanted people to stay at their desks:

tinyurl.com/y5c5pztm

This man and others not only gave their lives for their friends but for people they didn't even know.

And thanks for the music. A fellow RC suggested you might want to say the rosary. If you are not familiar with it, you might consider saying The Divine Mercy Chaplet of St Faustina. I say it; It is meaningful for me.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2021 10:36 AM (AJzTi)

39 That memorial took 14 years to build?

Posted by: Pine Barrens at September 11, 2021 10:37 AM (/N5me)

40 Funny how GWB had nothing to say when Obama was busy blaming him daily but Trump was too much to bear

Fuck the Bushes

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 11, 2021 10:37 AM (KY0uc)

41 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 11, 2021 10:37 AM (arJlL)

42 >>> 36 Lessons the US may never learn:

1. If avoiding collateral damage and casualties is the Number One Rule of War for the US, we will never win.

2. Treating your enemies and all foreigners nicely will rarely make them like you. You cannot MAKE people like you.
Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2021 10:36 AM (AMIL/)

The US *did* understand these things, up until the late 50s / early 60s.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 11, 2021 10:38 AM (ACi07)

43 Not to worry. Our government has a plan for that contingency.
Posted by: flounder at September 11, 2021 10:29 AM (KnJdm)

"...It is always a temptation for a reach and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say:--
'Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away.'..."
-- Dane-Geld by Rudyard Kipling

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 11, 2021 10:38 AM (AiZBA)

44
I can testify that Rumsfeld did say at the time that the US should break up Al Qaida and go home but for raids against visible terrorists,

but nooooo, the anti-colonialists in DC, went full imperial and tried to make A-stan like Holland

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:39 AM (bTQ72)

45 *looks at Bush*

My certainty that Gore would have been worse dwindles each time Chimpy McBushitler opens his yap.

Posted by: Bete at September 11, 2021 10:40 AM (Ojki1)

46
I will put the flag out today but not for labor day.

Posted by: lin-duh at September 11, 2021 10:30 AM

I'm contemplating putting the Flag rig on the truck when I go run errands around town in a bit

of course, on Independence Day when I drove to and from the store flying the Flag on my truck, I got screamed at and flipped off twice in a ten mile round trip

On Independence Day. Flipped off for flying the Flag.

so mayhaps I'm not in the mood, particularly today, to be reminded that I am the sole pocket of resistance just outside the wire of The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 11, 2021 10:41 AM (DUIap)

47 38 ...Remember not just the horrors but the heroes...

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2021 10:36 AM (AJzTi)

I'm sorry, but I have a great deal of...
--typing--deleting--typing--deleting
dislike...for those that put us in this position.

They are traitors to this country and the Constitution, and there is a prescribed way of dealing with them, but since they control all aspects of goverment, the Fox is ~~watching~~ CONTROLLING the henhouse.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:41 AM (ynpvh)

48 Islam forbids making images, so I'm not surprised they would paint over an image of Floyd (along with the other images).

And the article referred to Floyd as a "secular saint"? Really? I thought saints were people we ought to emulate.

Posted by: Emmie at September 11, 2021 10:42 AM (6RgRK)

49 My take of here and abroad includes his version of what he thinks Jan 6 was about

Posted by: Skip's Phone at September 11, 2021 10:43 AM (2JoB8)

50 45 *looks at Bush*

My certainty that Gore would have been worse dwindles each time Chimpy McBushitler opens his yap.

Posted by: Bete at September 11, 2021 10:40 AM (Ojki1)

Don't forget the intentional failures of the Clinton Admin. --cough, cough, Jamie Gorelick, cough, cough--

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:43 AM (ynpvh)

51 Howdy, JT!

Posted by: Emmie at September 11, 2021 10:44 AM (6RgRK)

52 >>> That guy is one weird dude. He's one of the few people that accurately reports on what Antifa is doing on the ground but he's never been someone that I would go to for political opinions.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 11, 2021 10:31 AM (4thlk)

He was attacked by antifa. They made him their enemy. I don't know much else about him. But twitter voices are often a racket. There are only a few voices I trust out in the big online curated social world and they're all women. And I certainly don't go to twitter for insight.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 11, 2021 10:44 AM (Yh0oe)

53 And the article referred to Floyd as a "secular saint"? Really? I thought saints were people we ought to emulate.
Posted by: Emmie at September 11, 2021 10:42 AM (6RgRK)

I'd be more than OK with all leftist shoving bags of fentanyl up their ass, and letting nature take its way. In fact, someone like 4 Chan should start that meme that this is exactly what people need to do to honor GF's death.

Posted by: Bete at September 11, 2021 10:45 AM (Ojki1)

54 48 Islam forbids making images, so I'm not surprised they would paint over an image of Floyd (along with the other images).

And the article referred to Floyd as a "secular saint"? Really? I thought saints were people we ought to emulate.

Posted by: Emmie at September 11, 2021 10:42 AM (6RgRK)

Do drugs, hold up people (even pregnant woman), why YES, this is EXACTLY what the left wants us to emulate, as long as you're not white, or conservative, or Christian...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:45 AM (ynpvh)

55 " I thought saints were people we ought to emulate. "

They wouldn't mind if you died of asphyxiation under a cop's boot.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 11, 2021 10:46 AM (7MBHe)

56 52 >>> That guy is one weird dude. He's one of the few people that accurately reports on what Antifa is doing on the ground but he's never been someone that I would go to for political opinions.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 11, 2021 10:31 AM (4thlk)

He was attacked by antifa. They made him their enemy. I don't know much else about him. But twitter voices are often a racket. There are only a few voices I trust out in the big online curated social world and they're all women. And I certainly don't go to twitter for insight.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 11, 2021 10:44 AM (Yh0oe)

Too bad those Antithugs won't ever be hit with a hate crime for beating up a gay man.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:46 AM (ynpvh)

57 I can testify that Rumsfeld did say at the time that the US should break up Al Qaida and go home but for raids against visible terrorists,

but nooooo, the anti-colonialists in DC, went full imperial and tried to make A-stan like Holland

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:39 AM

The problem with both Iraq and Afghanistan is they both became a State department operation and the military was left out of the planning loop.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 11, 2021 10:47 AM (JUOKG)

58 39. No. I have been to Flight 93 twice. The permanent walkway, wall of names, and viewing area was built around five years after 9/11. The additional museum and educational center was subsequently built in the years after. The tower of voices has been the final structure to be built and it took something like four years just to get the cast chimes to sound and work well. That was just finished in the last two years. The reclamation of the strip mine itself continues and the surrounding land is stunningly beautiful.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 11, 2021 10:47 AM (Y92Zv)

59
antifa is the democrats, that is who joins it, that is who protects it

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:47 AM (bTQ72)

60 9 Still would like to go to Shanksville someday
Posted by: Skip's Phone

Me too. I pass near it when I drive back to NW PA to visit family. I'll drop by sometime. I would like to see it.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 11, 2021 10:47 AM (2graF)

61 44
I can testify that Rumsfeld did say at the time that the US should break up Al Qaida and go home but for raids against visible terrorists,

but nooooo, the anti-colonialists in DC, went full imperial and tried to make A-stan like Holland

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:39 AM (bTQ72)

The long initial pursuit of Bin Laden (He's in a cave only two ridge lines away from our forward outposts, this time for sure!) kept the Afghan War going long enough to give it a life of its own, keeping it running when all traces of Bin Laden in Afghanistan vanished for a time.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2021 10:48 AM (AMIL/)

62 21 I will put the flag out today but not for labor day.

Posted by: lin-duh at September 11, 2021 10:30 AM (UUBmN)

Agreed. I try to remember (but not always) to put my flag up on Flag day, Independence day, 9-11, Pearl Harbor day, Bill of Rights day.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:49 AM (ynpvh)

63 With the 20th Anniversary of 9/11 looming, they are using this Vaccine Mandate to change the subject.

They MUST change the subject. Too many Americans are realizing that

a.) this Government installed itself.

b.) Barack Hussein Obama is the actual head of that self-installed government.

and

c.) he just threw away 20 years of effort, treasure and the lives of American servicemen to secure an unconditional, overwhelming Victory for his Muslim Brotherhood.

And Everybody Knows It.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 11, 2021 10:50 AM (Ndje9)

64 20 years ago I did not know what a kardashian was

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:51 AM (bTQ72)

65 61 44 The long initial pursuit of Bin Laden (He's in a cave only two ridge lines away from our forward outposts, this time for sure!) kept the Afghan War going long enough to give it a life of its own, keeping it running when all traces of Bin Laden in Afghanistan vanished for a time.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2021 10:48 AM (AMIL/)

So the question is: When Obama Bin Laden was killed, why didn't we stop the war in Aghanistan? That was a decade ago!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:51 AM (ynpvh)

66 I'm sure that those in charge did not actually want to catch bin Laden because then they would have no excuse to continue the grift. They were busy taking advantage of the situation.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 10:52 AM (/uaBM)

67 Still would like to go to Shanksville someday

Same here. Hoping to go to Gettysburg soon, so I figured I'd stop by there on the way.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 11, 2021 10:52 AM (Xrfse)

68 64 20 years ago I did not know what a kardashian was

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:51 AM (bTQ72)

20 years ago, I didn't know what an Obama was.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:52 AM (ynpvh)

69
prove OBL was killed

our same govt told us, the same one that said a lab leak was impossible

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:53 AM (bTQ72)

70 Still would like to go to Shanksville someday

I have zero interests attending a shrine dedicated to Our Enemy's victories.

The former United States is "former" because we celebrate defeat and love to self flagellate. A nation of dedicated losers who want our enemies to enslave us.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 10:53 AM (+LCoQ)

71 The "war" was lost for two reasons, IMO:

- we didn't turn Mecca into a glowing parking lot;
- a bastard named Barack Hussein Obama was allowed to run for POTUS.

"Never forget" has become a sick joke.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 11, 2021 10:23 AM (2JVJo)

The operative phrase is, I believe,

"Key turn on my Command".

Posted by: Fox2! at September 11, 2021 10:53 AM (PQMST)

72 he is gay, you knew that right?
Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:28 AM (bTQ72)

By putting the gay flag on his profile, he is saying that he sees himself as a member of Big Anus. He is now a "gay reporter", not a reporter who happens to be gay.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2021 10:53 AM (WVqpT)

73 72 he is gay, you knew that right?
Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:28 AM (bTQ72)

By putting the gay flag on his profile, he is saying that he sees himself as a member of Big Anus. He is now a "gay reporter", not a reporter who happens to be gay.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2021 10:53 AM (WVqpT)

And there's an advantage to that...if he's targeted, a hate crime, although the left RARELY adds hate crime to the list of offenses if the victim is not on the Left.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:54 AM (ynpvh)

74 Electing someone with the middle name of your greatest enemy as president is a strange choice. Like if England had made Bob Hitler Jones prime minister instead of Churchill during WWII.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 10:55 AM (/uaBM)

75
Barak is the name of a musllim horse

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:55 AM (bTQ72)

76 69
prove OBL was killed

our same govt told us, the same one that said a lab leak was impossible

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:53 AM (bTQ72)

Woulda loved to see the vids of his bullet-riddled body. He should have been burned (in a pork wrap) instead of "burial at sea" after an Imam gave him his farewell. (Yeah, optics, but optics work both ways--you fuck with us, we'll burn you in pork fat).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:56 AM (ynpvh)

77 Dammit.
Daily Mail:

"President George W. Bush used his speech in Shanksville to talk about violent extremism at home "

They should all be booed out of there.

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 10:56 AM (Tnijr)

78 How dare you besmirch the good g*d damn name of Bob H Jones

Posted by: CNN at September 11, 2021 10:56 AM (KY0uc)

79 They MUST change the subject. Too many Americans are realizing that

a.) this Government installed itself.

Listening to these so-called leaders contradict each other, lie about everything and promote yet more abominations of policy - there is no government, there is no border, there is no law, there is no budget; there are war lords fighting for turf though.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 10:57 AM (+LCoQ)

80 It's never too late to turn Mecca into a glowing parking lot. The UN would probably have a hissy fit and all, but fuck the UN.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 10:57 AM (/uaBM)

81 70 Still would like to go to Shanksville someday

I have zero interests attending a shrine dedicated to Our Enemy's victories.

The former United States is "former" because we celebrate defeat and love to self flagellate. A nation of dedicated losers who want our enemies to enslave us.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 10:53 AM (+LCoQ)

If I had a chance, I'd go to Pearl and see the memorial there. Not a "shrine dedicated to Our Enemy's Victory", but a memorial to those who fought back.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:57 AM (ynpvh)

82 >>> 77 Dammit.
Daily Mail:

"President George W. Bush used his speech in Shanksville to talk about violent extremism at home "

They should all be booed out of there.
Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 10:56 AM (Tnijr)

The audience was selected properly, Comrade.

Posted by: This... is XiNN at September 11, 2021 10:57 AM (ACi07)

83 we celebrate defeat and love to self flagellate. A nation of dedicated losers who want our enemies to enslave us.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 10:53 AM (+LCoQ)

I perceive that this has been cultivated in our citizens. It seems there is a mindset among a lot of people that we need to be punished, I guess for being prosperous and free. These people never consider the ways America has blessed the world.

Posted by: Emmie at September 11, 2021 10:58 AM (6RgRK)

84 KT - another great post. And another one that will not get the attention it deserves because it appears on a weekend.

Posted by: Doof at September 11, 2021 10:59 AM (mZUr4)

85 Picture on the Daily Mail of Biden, surrounded by Presidents in masks, pulling down his mask to holler at somebody.

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 10:59 AM (Tnijr)

86 81 70 I have zero interests attending a shrine dedicated to Our Enemy's victories.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 10:53 AM (+LCoQ)

If I had a chance, I'd go to Pearl and see the memorial there. Not a "shrine dedicated to Our Enemy's Victory", but a memorial to those who fought back.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:57 AM (ynpvh)

I didn't see Masada to see the Roman victory over a bunch of Jews holed up on a Mesa for years, I went because of archaeological interest and because the Jews RESISTED the most powerful state in the world for YEARS, refusing to be taken alive. That was a grand FUCK YOU ROMANS by not having any captives to take back to Rome to parade.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:59 AM (ynpvh)

87 The monuments to commemorate 9/11 should not be in NYC or Shanksville, but in places scattered around the Sandbox. They should be intended to mark our victory, not our defeat, and they should stand to remind our enemies not to ever again fuck with us. That is as it should be.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:00 AM (/uaBM)

88 And Everybody Knows It.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 11, 2021 10:50 AM (Ndje9)

Not everyone. Some people think Jill Biden runs things...lol. Or they are unsure who is in charge. Maybe it's the Clinton crime family or some deep state group. I agree with you completely' it is Obama in pursuit of his Islamist goals.

Posted by: CN at September 11, 2021 11:00 AM (ONvIw)

89 So the question is: When Obama Bin Laden was killed, why didn't we stop the war in Aghanistan? That was a decade ago!

We are too busy celebrating our Enemy's victories and too stupid and self-defeating to recognize May 2nd as our victory in #cancelling bin Laden. (allegedly)

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:00 AM (+LCoQ)

90 87 The monuments to commemorate 9/11 should not be in NYC or Shanksville, but in places scattered around the Sandbox. They should be intended to mark our victory, not our defeat, and they should stand to remind our enemies not to ever again fuck with us. That is as it should be.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:00 AM (/uaBM)

Well, I guess I can't say, "I visited the nuclear crater in Mecca on the 9/11 anniversary".

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:01 AM (ynpvh)

91 The truth be known, there is no one in charge. Probably. At least, the evidence would point in that direction.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:01 AM (/uaBM)

92 64 20 years ago I did not know what a kardashian was

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:51 AM (bTQ72)

The origin of Kardashian crap can be blamed on OJ. They probably never would have become famous without their father, Robert Kardashian, becoming famous from the OJ case and trial. Another reason to hate OJ. Bruce Jenner inadvertently contributed to the media buzz about Kim and her sisters when he married Robert Kardashian's ex-wife.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2021 11:02 AM (AMIL/)

93 The monuments to commemorate 9/11 should not be in NYC or Shanksville, but in places scattered around the Sandbox. They should be intended to mark our victory, not our defeat, and they should stand to remind our enemies not to ever again fuck with us. That is as it should be.
Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:00 AM (/uaBM)

Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:02 AM (+LCoQ)

94 Picture on the Daily Mail of Biden, surrounded by Presidents in masks, pulling down his mask to holler at somebody.

The sky, shaking those gropey fists.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 11, 2021 11:02 AM (Xrfse)

95 I perceive that this has been cultivated in our citizens. It seems there is a mindset among a lot of people that we need to be punished, I guess for being prosperous and free. These people never consider the ways America has blessed the world.
Posted by: Emmie at September 11, 2021 10:58 AM (6RgRK)

Yes, a nation convinced only of its guilt, but also convinced that the guilt is collected among only one group of its citizens.

Posted by: CN at September 11, 2021 11:02 AM (ONvIw)

96 Out of all anniversaries of 9/11, this one is the most painful for me. Because I can't revisit it this year without recognition and realization of the complete horror, the dark blanket descending over America, the dissolution of our great experiment in self-governance, and the utter, diabolical fools that are making it happen. For some reason, 9/11's 20th anniversary brings that home in a glaring siren that is hitting me right between the eyes today.

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 11, 2021 11:02 AM (O+I8R)

97 What's a Kardashian?

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:02 AM (/uaBM)

98
Well, I guess I can't say, "I visited the nuclear crater in Mecca on the 9/11 anniversary".
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:01 AM (ynpvh)

Pity, that. And once the glow dies down, you could build a cathedral with two towers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2021 11:03 AM (WVqpT)

99 They say 'Never Forget' but I can't remember what.

Posted by: Sunset Joe at September 11, 2021 11:03 AM (/4vtq)

100 97 What's a Kardashian?

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:02 AM (/uaBM)

Someone who's male figure wears a dress.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:03 AM (ynpvh)

101 "The audience was selected properly, Comrade"

You are not kidding. There is one picture with some much Democrat vermin in it I wanted to throw the tablet across the room.

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 11:03 AM (Tnijr)

102 The truth be known, there is no one in charge. Probably. At least, the evidence would point in that direction.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:01 AM

Concur. This administration is way too chaotic and all over the place to believe there is one or two people in charge. I mean in less than 48 hours the cdc went from "you must wear a face diaper everywhere" to "vaccinated people don't need to wear a mask". Science didn't change in two days but the polls did.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at September 11, 2021 11:04 AM (JUOKG)

103 @brianstelter

Network TV anchors were "the closest thing that America had to national leaders on 9/11. They were the moral authority for the country on that first day," especially with political leaders in bunkers or otherwise out of sight...

https://tinyurl.com/yhnz52mr

-
Mash the Tater!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 11, 2021 11:04 AM (d9FiS)

104 98
Well, I guess I can't say, "I visited the nuclear crater in Mecca on the 9/11 anniversary".
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:01 AM (ynpvh)

Pity, that. And once the glow dies down, you could build a cathedral with two towers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2021 11:03 AM (WVqpT)

I'd rather see one TALL tower surrounded by two smaller towers on each side. A Hearty FUCK YOU.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:04 AM (ynpvh)

105 Well, I guess I can't say, "I visited the nuclear crater in Mecca on the 9/11 anniversary".

Commemorative annual bomb drops broadcast (before the shockwave blows away the cameras) around the globe on satellite for the world to enjoy.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:04 AM (+LCoQ)

106 Post #60-Puddleglum

There was a nice article in the NY Post about a storeowner in Shanksville talking about people fighting against terrorism:

https://tinyurl.com/2phd8zk

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2021 11:04 AM (AJzTi)

107 99 They say 'Never Forget' but I can't remember what.

Posted by: Sunset Joe at September 11, 2021 11:03 AM (/4vtq)

Drink your Ovaltine

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:05 AM (ynpvh)

108 Fuck the Bushes
Posted by: Rick in SK

Harrumph, harrumph!

Posted by: the ficus at September 11, 2021 11:05 AM (QnWgk)

109 76 69
prove OBL was killed

our same govt told us, the same one that said a lab leak was impossible

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 10:53 AM (bTQ72)

Woulda loved to see the vids of his bullet-riddled body. He should have been burned (in a pork wrap) instead of "burial at sea" after an Imam gave him his farewell. (Yeah, optics, but optics work both ways--you fuck with us, we'll burn you in pork fat).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 10:56 AM (ynpvh)

We go out our way to keep people who already hate us with the heat of 100 suns, hate us with the heat of 101 suns.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2021 11:05 AM (AMIL/)

110 I literally would not know a Kardashian if one were to come up and bite me on the ass. Some kind of celebrities, I guess, and I pay no attention to such worthless drones and cankers on society. Sure, I've heard the name but know nothing about them because I do not give a shit.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:05 AM (/uaBM)

111 89 So the question is: When Obama Bin Laden was killed, why didn't we stop the war in Aghanistan? That was a decade ago!

We are too busy celebrating our Enemy's victories and too stupid and self-defeating to recognize May 2nd as our victory in #cancelling bin Laden. (allegedly)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:00 AM (+LCoQ)

The bigger question, seeing as how he was killed in PAKISTAN and its pretty clear that Pakistan Intelligence was hiding him??? Why did we not bitch slap Pakistan, and even continue to FUND the exact same intelligence folks who hid Bin L?

That would be like funding Bio Weapon research in Communist China! I mean... how stupid are we.... oh... wait... shit...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 11, 2021 11:06 AM (oHd/0)

112 The Flight That Fought Back - not the theatrical release, but a 2005 made-for-TV 'docudrama,' combining footage, interviews, and re-enactments, including several scenarios of what might have been happening in Flight 93's last moments.

imdb.com/title/tt0470764/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1

This is it, IIANM:
https://youtu.be/P4Jwb_gaE5I

Gonna see if I can pull my copy out of the catacombs. I have so many vids about 9/11. I should make sure the old DVDs are recopied before they deteriorate.

Posted by: mindful webworker remembers at September 11, 2021 11:06 AM (b2/Ti)

113 Yeah they spent a million dollars to dump Bin Laden at sea. Sure.

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 11:07 AM (Tnijr)

114 Network TV anchors were "the closest thing that America had to national leaders on 9/11. They were the moral authority for the country on that first day,"

Sort of like the "moral leaders" of Sodom and Gomorrah.

No narcissism at all in that statement.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:07 AM (+LCoQ)

115 Worse than checking out your watch every five minutes. Biden yells at someone in NYC memorial crowd.

https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/
1436698714387714051

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 11, 2021 11:07 AM (UHVv4)

116
It's useful to remember the way that past wars have bred a corrupt class of profiteers in this country. I'm thinking of the Civil War in particular, and the new monied class in the North, rich with the rapidly inflating new fiat currency, greenbacks. These jokers sold gunpowder mixed with black dirt, and cavalry boots that disintegrated if walked in.

The occupation of the South during Reconstruction, the cynical exploitation and theft, the phony-baloney concern for the freed blacks used as proxies, the violent uprising against it -- it echoes in the present day. Crooks claiming to work for a higher purpose.

The corrupt constituencies that war creates are damaging to the nation like enemy bombs - worse in a way.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 11, 2021 11:07 AM (2iDSr)

117 110 I literally would not know a Kardashian if one were to come up and bite me on the ass. Some kind of celebrities, I guess, and I pay no attention to such worthless drones and cankers on society. Sure, I've heard the name but know nothing about them because I do not give a shit.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:05 AM (/uaBM)

Heh. Given the size of their asses, maybe the biting goes the other way.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:07 AM (ynpvh)

118 I know that "Traum" in German is "dream" but what does the "erei" suffix mean?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 11, 2021 11:07 AM (d9FiS)

119 Somehow, after WWII, we occupied Japan and actually succeeded in turning it into a Western-style democracy. Why did that work?

Is the horrible secret that you have to drop a couple of nukes first?

Posted by: MW at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (u33s0)

120 "...a war that has finally ended"

Anyone really believe that? The US campaign in Afghanistan has ended in retreat, mainly so the federal government can focus on its real enemy, US citizens.

But does anyone believe the Taliban, Al Qaeda, and their allies going back to everyone involved in planning and supporting 9/11 are going to stop looking for opportunities to fight? Much less the rest of true islam?

Posted by: Methos at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (kOpft)

121 It's been suggested that bin Laden may have never been killed, and the way it went down with the supposed "burial at sea" and no documentation provides some evidence that may be true. If so, maybe it's he who is in charge now. Stranger things have happened, but mainly in some other alternate universe.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (/uaBM)

122 Ruben Hick I see your point, but maybe only in NY or DC not in Shanksville. Shanksville was more like the Alamo, a battle all were lost but stopped the opposing force from their mission.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (2JoB8)

123 Well, I guess I can't say, "I visited the nuclear crater in Mecca on the 9/11 anniversary".
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:01 AM (ynpvh)

Pity, that. And once the glow dies down, you could build a cathedral with two towers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2021 11:03 AM (WVqpT)

I'd rather see one TALL tower surrounded by two smaller towers on each side. A Hearty FUCK YOU.

Posted by: jim

I like the cut of your jib. No homo.

Posted by: 22 Acacia Ave. at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (QnWgk)

124 Why were all of those traitors wearing masks? Aren't they all "vaccinated and sophisticated?"

Posted by: Lady in Black at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (O+I8R)

125 Somehow, after WWII, we occupied Japan and actually succeeded in turning it into a Western-style democracy. Why did that work?
Is the horrible secret that you have to drop a couple of nukes first?
Posted by: MW at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (u33s0)

Ummmmm....Yes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (R/m4+)

126
they let biden wear a watch today?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (bTQ72)

127 111 89 So the question is: When Obama Bin Laden was killed, why didn't we stop the war in Aghanistan? That was a decade ago!

We are too busy celebrating our Enemy's victories and too stupid and self-defeating to recognize May 2nd as our victory in #cancelling bin Laden. (allegedly)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:00 AM (+LCoQ)

The bigger question, seeing as how he was killed in PAKISTAN and its pretty clear that Pakistan Intelligence was hiding him??? Why did we not bitch slap Pakistan, and even continue to FUND the exact same intelligence folks who hid Bin L?

That would be like funding Bio Weapon research in Communist China! I mean... how stupid are we.... oh... wait... shit...

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 11, 2021 11:06 AM (oHd/0)

Yeah, no doubt the Paki's were deeply involved and were "friendly" to Al Qaeda. So they had nukes? Blow up their facilities, don't worry about the radiation fall-out.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:09 AM (ynpvh)

128 'Worse than checking out your watch every five minutes. Biden yells at someone in NYC memorial crowd. '

My tweeter dont work. Is that the pic of him pulling down his mask?

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 11:09 AM (Tnijr)

129 Is the horrible secret that you have to drop a couple of nukes first?
Posted by: MW at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (u33s0)

Neither the taliban or Al qaeda actually surrendered.

Posted by: CN at September 11, 2021 11:09 AM (ONvIw)

130 "President George W. Bush used his speech in Shanksville to talk about violent extremism at home "

Ah, another moment where I must exercise self restraint, lest I say something I would later regret.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 11, 2021 11:09 AM (Xrfse)

131 Somehow, after WWII, we occupied Japan and actually succeeded in turning it into a Western-style democracy. Why did that work?

Is the horrible secret that you have to drop a couple of nukes first?
Posted by: MW at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (u33s0)

History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man

Posted by: Gojira at September 11, 2021 11:09 AM (Yh0oe)

132 9/11/01--DIL announces to her mother she will join the military like her dad. She's in middle school. Will go to A'stan.
9/11/12 -- Son is on emergency 48-hour standby to deploy to place-unknown embassy protection after Benghazi.
Both still in service. Both are familiar with the 2/1 that lost their brothers and sisters in Kabul.
And there's our sh*t VP hectoring us about unity. It's more than I can bear.

Posted by: La2la at September 11, 2021 11:09 AM (wfrSv)

133 The bigger question, seeing as how he was killed in PAKISTAN and its pretty clear that Pakistan Intelligence was hiding him??? Why did we not bitch slap Pakistan, and even continue to FUND the exact same intelligence folks who hid Bin L?

Pakistan is an odd place. First, they have nukes. Second, the place is run as a federal government with individual war lord military generals running their own province. Third, to continue the CIA's opium trade, the need for a warm water port for heavy cargo and contraband runs through Pakistan.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:09 AM (+LCoQ)

134
I think Japan started to westerize some in the 1880s at some level

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 11:09 AM (bTQ72)

135 Greetings:

Last evening, I did some penance by watching CBS's 2-hour program on 9/11 and the CIA.

Nobody seemed too interested in the fact that Zawahiri (Al-henchman numero uno) may still be walking this planet.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 11, 2021 11:09 AM (uuklp)

136 113 Yeah they spent a million dollars to dump Bin Laden at sea. Sure.

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 11:07 AM (Tnijr)

If they spend $100Ks for shrimp on a treadmill, or on determining that Lesbians are fat because the eat out, I could believe the price tag could've been 10x.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:10 AM (ynpvh)

137 Navy Chaplain reflects on ministering to people at Ground Zero on 9/11:

https://tinyurl.com/5jtu6w89

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2021 11:11 AM (AJzTi)

138 'Worse than checking out your watch every five minutes. Biden yells at someone in NYC memorial crowd. '

My tweeter dont work. Is that the pic of him pulling down his mask?

Well, you got to give him credit for not pulling down his pants.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:11 AM (+LCoQ)

139 -My tweeter dont work. Is that the pic of him pulling down his mask?

yes

UK Daily Mails has it too

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 11:11 AM (bTQ72)

140 Looks like Obiden baled on Shanksville himself.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 11, 2021 11:11 AM (4thlk)

141 Civilized peoples can be encouraged to act in a civilized fashion, thus Germany and Japan. Uncivilized animals cannot. Full stop.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:12 AM (/uaBM)

142 119 Somehow, after WWII, we occupied Japan and actually succeeded in turning it into a Western-style democracy. Why did that work?

Is the horrible secret that you have to drop a couple of nukes first?

Posted by: MW at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (u33s0)

And Japan was an advanced society compared to the Middle East Islamo-countries. And we defeated their GOD, the emperor.
My Dad told me a story of a Japanese teen that worked for them when he was stationed in Japan during the occupation that told him, "Your God must be powerful to defeat ours". That's the kind of response you want from them.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:12 AM (ynpvh)

143 My tweeter don't work. Is that the pic of him pulling down his mask?
-------------------------
Yes, all the way down and yelling/screaming at someone in the crowd off-camera.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 11, 2021 11:12 AM (UHVv4)

144 Nobody seemed too interested in the fact that Zawahiri (Al-henchman numero uno) may still be walking this planet.

Zawahiri is a cardboard cut-out, the real contributors to the Taliban's success reside in the State Department and the Pentagram.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:13 AM (+LCoQ)

145 Failed Donk congressional candidate has some thoughts.

Pam Keith, Esq.
@PamKeithFL
On 1/6/2021, 9/11/2001 ceased being the worst thing that happened to America in my lifetime. It's really weird and painful to process and say that. But it's the truth. And quite frankly... it s not even close.

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Yeah, they were stacking the bodies up in piles.

Well, I didn't say they were good thoughts.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 11, 2021 11:13 AM (d9FiS)

146 We should nuke Delaware.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:14 AM (/uaBM)

147 I think the blackboard ought to say: Carpe Caffeum.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 11, 2021 11:15 AM (Z2hVt)

148 "Yes, all the way down and yelling/screaming at someone in the crowd off-camera.
Posted by: andycanuck "

That is awesome. What an awesome President. Just awesome.

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 11:15 AM (Tnijr)

149 If they spend $100Ks for shrimp on a treadmill, or on determining that Lesbians are fat because the eat out, I could believe the price tag could've been 10x.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:10 AM (ynpvh)

On my first ship, we were doing a long workup after an extended Yard Period, so we would put to sea almost every week, for a few days at a time. During that period, most weeks, we would perform burials at Sea for Veterans. I was part of the honor guard.

Burial at Sea takes a very few minutes, and the only expense was the proper amount of ammunition for the gun salute we would do. A gun salute that Bin L would not have been privileged to receive.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 11, 2021 11:15 AM (oHd/0)

150 "What can we do differently?"

Redefine "we".

The post-9/11 unity was a lie - every bit as much as the "unity" against the Soviets during the cold war.

And it was a flimsier unity, on account of the left being dismissive of the jihadis - I could have told you that a month afterwards when orders came down not to wear our uniforms in public because the local moonbats kept spitting on us. 2002-2003 was spent recasting the usual commie groups into ANSWER; it took them all of 3 years to seize the Senate and dial up their Vietnam 2.0 sabotage efforts, which paid off in 2008.

The Soviets lost in the Cold War. The marxists in general did not.

Posted by: somedood at September 11, 2021 11:15 AM (Q87rR)

151 Spare the nuke, spoil the civilizing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 11, 2021 11:15 AM (d9FiS)

152 Doh, guess I'm a thread behind... guess I really do need to seize the coffee.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 11, 2021 11:15 AM (Z2hVt)

153 148 "Yes, all the way down and yelling/screaming at someone in the crowd off-camera.
Posted by: andycanuck "

That is awesome. What an awesome President. Just awesome.

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 11:15 AM (Tnijr)

But at least it wasn't a mean tweet.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:15 AM (ynpvh)

154 Also Scranton, PA. At least a tactical nuke. Use one of the city busters for Delaware.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:15 AM (/uaBM)

155 Pam Keith can go fuck herself with a rusty chainsaw.

Posted by: 22 Acacia Ave. at September 11, 2021 11:16 AM (QnWgk)

156 Lesbians are fat because the eat out,
Posted by: jim

We aren't doing phrasing anymore?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 11, 2021 11:16 AM (Z2hVt)

157 If they spend $100Ks for shrimp on a treadmill,

How would you like to be the unsuspecting engineer whose manager drops that Statement of Work into your backlog?

* Design and Deploy a treadmill for shrimp

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:16 AM (+LCoQ)

158 149 A gun salute that Bin L would not have been privileged to receive.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 11, 2021 11:15 AM (oHd/0)

Depends on the direction of the bullets.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:17 AM (ynpvh)

159 We need Joe Biden like a shrimp needs a treadmill.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:17 AM (/uaBM)

160 Stranger things have happened, but mainly in some other alternate universe.
Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM

You say that like it's a Bad Thing.

Posted by: Bearded Spock at September 11, 2021 11:17 AM (a3Q+t)

161 156 Lesbians are fat because the eat out,
Posted by: jim

We aren't doing phrasing anymore?

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at September 11, 2021 11:16 AM (Z2hVt)

That is almost a direct quote from the research summary...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:17 AM (ynpvh)

162 157 If they spend $100Ks for shrimp on a treadmill,

How would you like to be the unsuspecting engineer whose manager drops that Statement of Work into your backlog?

* Design and Deploy a treadmill for shrimp

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:16 AM (+LCoQ)

Honestly, there would be some challenges. Think about it; they have to be underwater (salt water), so your mechanisms need to handle that. You need to measure the shrimps' respiration, so those devices would have challenges.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:19 AM (ynpvh)

163 Burial at Sea takes a very few minutes, and the only expense was the proper amount of ammunition for the gun salute we would do. A gun salute that Bin L would not have been privileged to receive.

If I had anything to do with the disposal of the body, bin Laden would have been fed into a tree chipper where the exhaust throws the chunks into a pig pen.

Broadcast Live and commemorative DVDs shortly thereafter

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:19 AM (+LCoQ)

164 159 We need Joe Biden like a shrimp needs a treadmill.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:17 AM (/uaBM)

We need Joe Biden like chickens need Colonel Sanders.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:19 AM (ynpvh)

165 163 Burial at Sea takes a very few minutes, and the only expense was the proper amount of ammunition for the gun salute we would do. A gun salute that Bin L would not have been privileged to receive.

If I had anything to do with the disposal of the body, bin Laden would have been fed into a tree chipper where the exhaust throws the chunks into a pig pen.

Broadcast Live and commemorative DVDs shortly thereafter

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:19 AM (+LCoQ)

In a full stadium with fans cheering the action.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:20 AM (ynpvh)

166 This is such an important read. "Just say 'NO' to joe's call for civil war".

https://tinyurl.com/4newxea2

Posted by: lizabth at September 11, 2021 11:21 AM (L3Rsz)

167 "President George W. Bush used his speech in Shanksville to talk about violent extremism at home "

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Every time I try to get out of RINO hating they pull me back in!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 11, 2021 11:21 AM (d9FiS)

168 Honestly, there would be some challenges. Think about it; they have to be underwater (salt water), so your mechanisms need to handle that. You need to measure the shrimps' respiration, so those devices would have challenges.

Wondering how that assignment would look on a résumé

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:21 AM (+LCoQ)

169 "131 Somehow, after WWII, we occupied Japan and actually succeeded in turning it into a Western-style democracy. Why did that work?

Is the horrible secret that you have to drop a couple of nukes first?
Posted by: MW at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (u33s0)"

All they needed was a chance to break free of their death-cult superiority-complex junta (Japanese society was massively fucked up in a few ways prior to westernization and there were some holdovers. But they handn't been repeatedly smashed by barbarians like the mainland Asians). The nukes and supreme ass-kicking accomplished that.

They were also already fiercely anti-communist. It's unfortunate, but they would have made great allies pre-WW2 if half their military leadership weren't lunatics. But FDR wasn't looking at the cultural issues - opposing Uncle Joe was a negative check mark in his book.

Germany's reconstruction and later reunification ultimately failed because Western Europe was too infested with commies, followed by Soviet shennanigans (including the leftist takeover of Western governments that continued to roll on after 1990)

Posted by: somedood at September 11, 2021 11:21 AM (Q87rR)

170 Just occurred to me, maybe seeing the Japanese Emperor in black tails and top hat in late 30s early 40s on movies might have told you there was a chance of western modernization if the militarization was knocked down.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:22 AM (2JoB8)

171 And we still have the same teachers. They have already in a pedophile political shaman manner gtoped their innocences. The teachers are so pliable.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 11, 2021 11:22 AM (obcVG)

172 I want to test centipedes on Segways. Control group would be millipedes on Harleys. CDC will fund for six billion dollars, probably. Fauchi would approve, then lie about it. Would require centipedes to wear masks.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:23 AM (/uaBM)

173 167 "President George W. Bush used his speech in Shanksville to talk about violent extremism at home "

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Every time I try to get out of RINO hating they pull me back in!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 11, 2021 11:21 AM (d9FiS)

RINOs need to be allowed to go extinct.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:23 AM (ynpvh)

174 I think Japan started to westerize some in the 1880s at some level
Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 11:09 AM (bTQ72)

Well, they were adopting Western technology big time. Firearms, steamships, telegraph, etc.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2021 11:23 AM (UyC1o)

175 119 Somehow, after WWII, we occupied Japan and actually succeeded in turning it into a Western-style democracy. Why did that work?

Is the horrible secret that you have to drop a couple of nukes first?

Posted by: MW at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (u33s0)

We physically and psychologically beat them into total submission, from Berlin to the tiniest village in the Bavarian mountains. We made all symbols and mention of the Nazi Party illegal. We tried war criminals and publicized what they had done. (Japan was the basically the same program, but different in many details,)

To do a similar job in any Islamic country, we'd have to outlaw Islam. Immediately imprison all mullahs or whatever, destroy all mosques, and imprison everyone who is found to practice Islam, publicly and privately. Ain't gonna be feasible in anyplace larger than Delaware or Connecticut.

Alternatively, use some of our nuclear weapons.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2021 11:24 AM (AMIL/)

176 168 Honestly, there would be some challenges. Think about it; they have to be underwater (salt water), so your mechanisms need to handle that. You need to measure the shrimps' respiration, so those devices would have challenges.

Wondering how that assignment would look on a r�sum�

Posted by: Reuben Hick at September 11, 2021 11:21 AM (+LCoQ)

Worked on US Goverment project on salt-water tolerant mechanisms and underwater instrumentation to monitor oxygenation levels while working underwater.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:24 AM (ynpvh)

177 I heard what Barky's administration probably ordered for OBL, makes me sick to know that and again why I think he had a hand in the possible surrender today in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:25 AM (2JoB8)

178 I know that "Traum" in German is "dream" but what does the "erei" suffix mean?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at September 11, 2021 11:07 AM (d9FiS)

Traumerei = daydream(ing), reverie

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 11, 2021 11:25 AM (ZSK0i)

179 177 I heard what Barky's administration probably ordered for OBL, makes me sick to know that and again why I think he had a hand in the possible surrender today in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:25 AM (2JoB

But like Clinton, Biden wouldn't have taken the shot if presented to him.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

180 Kill the RINOs, spare the Rhinos.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:26 AM (/uaBM)

181 PS to my 175 - somehow I read the question in 119 as being about Germany. I am too angry today to think straight.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2021 11:26 AM (AMIL/)

182 "Picture on the Daily Mail of Biden, surrounded by Presidents in masks, pulling down his mask to holler at somebody.
The sky, shaking those gropey fists.
Posted by: Notorious BFD"

There is another picture on there of him turning and looking up at the sky while everyone else is looking forward, like he's looking at a plane or bird or maybe even a cloud.

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 11:27 AM (Tnijr)

183 Germany, Japan, Zimbabwe ... what difference does it make?

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:27 AM (/uaBM)

184 182 "Picture on the Daily Mail of Biden, surrounded by Presidents in masks, pulling down his mask to holler at somebody.
The sky, shaking those gropey fists.
Posted by: Notorious BFD"

There is another picture on there of him turning and looking up at the sky while everyone else is looking forward, like he's looking at a plane or bird or maybe even a cloud.

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 11:27 AM (Tnijr)

Sounds like Hillary at the Dem Convention in 2016.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:28 AM (ynpvh)

185 "United 93" (the movie) is being shown all day on Showtime today. They've been showing that movie regularly for the past 2 weeks.

I've seen it 3 times and it still moves me. Brings back feelings I had twenty years ago.

Even if you can't get to Shanksville, find time to watch United 93. (Doesn't have to be Showtime, just however you can manage to watch it).

The way things are going, that movie may one day be as rare as "The Path to 9/11"

Posted by: Hands at September 11, 2021 11:28 AM (786Ro)

186 119 Somehow, after WWII, we occupied Japan and actually succeeded in turning it into a Western-style democracy. Why did that work?

Is the horrible secret that you have to drop a couple of nukes first?
Posted by: MW at September 11, 2021 11:08 AM (u33s0)
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the japanese culture is not/was not a 7th century tribal savage depraved muslim ideaology.

Posted by: BluesFish at September 11, 2021 11:29 AM (kPJ/p)

187 Everything is like WW1 WW2. except for all the nukes.

All the countries leaders want a nuclear war so the citizens will have a diversion from removing the government love.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 11, 2021 11:30 AM (obcVG)

188 "170 Just occurred to me, maybe seeing the Japanese Emperor in black tails and top hat in late 30s early 40s on movies might have told you there was a chance of western modernization if the militarization was knocked down.
Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:22 AM (2JoB

"

The emperor wasn't a stuffed shirt - he was intimately involved in the governance and war planning. It's just that he was, relatively, one of the voices of moderation. There is quite a bit of historical research on this following his death, with renewed interest on the topic with Naruhito stepping up a couple of years ago.

A parallel topic - looking at how Germany turned out - is why Japan fended off commies so well internally in the post-war period when Germany failed so miserably. This is pretty relevant today watching how Germany is turning into such a giant shithole. Both peoples are predisposed to rule-following; both hated the Soviets. But I think it's an apples-to-oranges comparison, and you'd have to wonder how the Teutonics from, oh, 1850-1880ish would have fared instead.

Posted by: somedood at September 11, 2021 11:31 AM (Q87rR)

189 How did we get here?

Deep State was either incompetent or complicit.

After what we've witnessed the last 5 years, I'm leaning towards complicit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender, 25 years until the next Tool album. at September 11, 2021 11:31 AM (bnkLv)

190 Kissinger is still alive.

Posted by: SFGoth at September 11, 2021 11:32 AM (KAi1n)

191 To do a similar job in any Islamic country, we'd have to outlaw Islam. Immediately imprison all mullahs or whatever, destroy all mosques, and imprison everyone who is found to practice Islam, publicly and privately. Ain't gonna be feasible in anyplace larger than Delaware or Connecticut.

Alternatively, use some of our nuclear weapons.
Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2021 11:24 AM (AMIL/)

Cancel out islam, and give Christian and Mormon missionaries free run to convert the heathen. Armed missionaries, with explicit permission to shoot any mecca-flopper who resists.

Set up the colonies (they'd have to be run as colonies, for several generations) such that converts to a sane religion got better jobs, better perks, better homes. muslim holdouts would be second-class subjects.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 11, 2021 11:32 AM (UyC1o)

192 "President George W. Bush used his speech in Shanksville to talk about violent extremism at home "

A weak man.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 11, 2021 11:32 AM (2graF)

193 188
Posted by: somedood at September 11, 2021 11:31 AM (Q87rR)

National Socialism and Communism were very much alike in their basic philosophies.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:33 AM (ynpvh)

194 192 "President George W. Bush used his speech in Shanksville to talk about violent extremism at home "

A weak man.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 11, 2021 11:32 AM (2graF)

Less of a man than Caitlyn Jenner...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

195 189 How did we get here?

Deep State was either incompetent or complicit.

After what we've witnessed the last 5 years, I'm leaning towards complicit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender, 25 years until the next Tool album. at September 11, 2021 11:31 AM (bnkLv)

Honestly, who puts a communist (John Brennan) in charge of an intelligence agency? Only a system and administration rotten to its very core.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

196 Just noticed the 15 yr old played the entire selection without any sheet music.

What an incredible talent.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at September 11, 2021 11:36 AM (Hh3y4)

197 I believe that Japan wanted modernization. The rulers were sold on the idea that military conquest was the means to that end, as it had been before. When they were shown another way, witnessed the military path demolished, they accepted what they believed was a viable correction to their path to modernization, success, greater honor and saving face on their own terms.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 11, 2021 11:36 AM (Yh0oe)

198 The post-9/11 unity was a lie

It united patriots. We witnessed young men and women coming forward in droves to serve in what at the time seemed a noble endeavor. Time has exposed that as yet another historical blunder, produced and directed by our "betters". Nevertheless, that in no way diminishes the good intentions and subsequent sacrifice on the part of those who stepped up to the plate. As for the leftist vermin who continue infest and devour this once-great Republic, 9/11 was a triumph. For about two weeks afterwards, they played along. That charade unraveled quickly. They couldn't restrain themselves any longer than that. The Hate America blame game picked up right where it left off.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 11, 2021 11:37 AM (Xrfse)

199 https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/2021/09/
the-new-government-mandated-covid-19.html

Too funny, but probably on its way. Maybe I want one to punk the mask nannies

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:38 AM (2JoB8)

200 We do have violent extremism in America, right now today. It is found not in the places we are told, but in the White House, Congress, CNN, etc. The name of this social disease is Treason and it is the most shameful and toxic thing ever known on this Earth.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:38 AM (/uaBM)

201 145 Failed Donk congressional candidate has some thoughts.

Pam Keith, Esq.
@PamKeithFL
On 1/6/2021, 9/11/2001 ceased being the worst thing that happened to America in my lifetime. It's really weird and painful to process and say that. But it's the truth. And quite frankly... it s not even close.

How on earth did this amazing intellect lose an election?

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at September 11, 2021 11:38 AM (2graF)

202 Say, remember when white nationalists killed 3000 people in an attack? Yeah, neither do I. Fuck you, W.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 11, 2021 11:39 AM (kTF2Z)

203 197 I believe that Japan wanted modernization. The rulers were sold on the idea that military conquest was the means to that end, as it had been before. When they were shown another way, witnessed the military path demolished, they accepted what they believed was a viable correction to their path to modernization, success, greater honor and saving face on their own terms.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 11, 2021 11:36 AM (Yh0oe)

During the war the Japanese were brutal, and it was well known (my dad and his bud had a pact that if they were on the brink of being captured by the Japs, they'd off each other first). The Japs told their own people we were brutal so that they would fight to the death. How can you fight someone like that? Threaten them with extermination, which the bombs showed EVERYBODY in the country (although the Military STILL wanted to fight on).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:39 AM (ynpvh)

204 Biden takes off his mask during 9/11 ceremony to yell at someone.

Look at the rage on his face.

https://bit.ly/3C6c1u2

Posted by: bonhomme at September 11, 2021 11:39 AM (i0wNm)

205 bidens partners

AFGHANISTAN: Taliban terrorists execute pregnant female police officer in her home in front of her family and use screwdrivers to gouge out her brains from her head

Posted by: will choose a nic later at September 11, 2021 11:40 AM (bTQ72)

206 199 https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/2021/09/
the-new-government-mandated-covid-19.html

Too funny, but probably on its way. Maybe I want one to punk the mask nannies

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:38 AM (2JoB

Surprised it wasn't this: https://tinyurl.com/exnmtdep

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:41 AM (ynpvh)

207 @pairx2

Share this video! Frm deputy sec of defense Paul wolfowitz live on Newsmax says conservative
@Newsmax are worse terrorists than the 9/11 hijackers! Says this on 9/11 anniversary

https://tinyurl.com/yjctv7sk

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2021 11:41 AM (cF8AT)

208 Talk about defunding the police. We must ban screwdrivers at once.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:42 AM (/uaBM)

209 202 Say, remember when white nationalists killed 3000 people in an attack? Yeah, neither do I. Fuck you, W.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 11, 2021 11:39 AM (kTF2Z)

Maybe in China during the revolution.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:42 AM (ynpvh)

210 Robert Schumann - he's the one who had the love story with Clara, right?

Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 11:42 AM (DJFLF)

211 Was on west coast but flipped on tv that morning. Saw second tower get hit and much of the events that followed.
One thing from the 1st Anniversary that I can remember as they read the list of victims was that jackass Dan Rather breaking in during the ceremony with word of o b l dying in Dec of 2001 in an air strike. Wrong time Dan! You were punked.

Posted by: Rex B at September 11, 2021 11:43 AM (kromb)

212 Jim I'd take that as well

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:43 AM (2JoB8)

213 204 Biden takes off his mask during 9/11 ceremony to yell at someone.

Look at the rage on his face.

https://bit.ly/3C6c1u2

Posted by: bonhomme at September 11, 2021 11:39 AM (i0wNm)

I've seen this at the zoo! Watch out, he's about to throw his shit at you!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:43 AM (ynpvh)

214 Share this video! Frm deputy sec of defense Paul wolfowitz live on Newsmax says conservative
@Newsmax are worse terrorists than the 9/11 hijackers! Says this on 9/11 anniversary

https://tinyurl.com/yjctv7sk
Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2021 11:41 AM (cF8AT)

We can see the disaster they created and they still get on their fucking high horse. Pieces of shit, all of them.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 11, 2021 11:44 AM (ieiKN)

215 Every color should have a nation, then they could all be (fill in color) Nationalists. Then we would all live in a peaceful world filled with pink unicorns and fairies. Probably.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:44 AM (/uaBM)

216 I think GWB clearly perceives that he managed an administration so objectionable in the long term, that he will die hated by broad majorities of his countrymen. So he's playing up to the Left in hopes of shining up his tarnished Presidency, since they write the history books.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2021 11:45 AM (FvCkv)

217 In any event, it is a lovely day here in NE MA. I just got my bike out of the shop and I am going to take a nice ride out to Essex for some fried clams (Farnham's, not Woodman's, for those of you in the area) and then out to wander around Rockport.

You probably are not here, but have a lobster roll for me!

*or is it lobstah*

Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 11:45 AM (DJFLF)

218 "Look at the rage on his face. "

Barky is looking at him like "shut up you dumbass".

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 11:45 AM (Tnijr)

219 Dubya sure seems committed to destroying his own legacy.

Posted by: CppThis at September 11, 2021 11:46 AM (UewuT)

220 What was Biden yelling? Was someone heckling them? The look on Obama is priceless. He knows Biden is crazy.

Posted by: Megthered at September 11, 2021 11:46 AM (4rnDH)

221 Bush is a turncoat. A treasonous turncoat who has joined the enemy. Or, has he been on their side all along? Discuss.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:46 AM (/uaBM)

222 https://bit.ly/3C6c1u2

Posted by: bonhomme at September 11, 2021 11:39 AM (i0wNm)

he must have noticed Corn Pop in the crowd.

I would like to see vid of this incident

Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 11:46 AM (DJFLF)

223 Posted by: bonhomme at September 11, 2021 11:39 AM (i0wNm)

As a number of people on this site have attested who have have or had loved ones with Alzheimers or dementia, rage is often a feature of the disease. It's often out of proportion to what's going on and the people with the disease have no filter on their mouth. I know someone who yelled loudly at someone else for offering them a cupcake, I guess because they have diabetes and the other person didn't know or didn't remember. We really do not need to have a man who has this illness as our President. It' scary and worrisome.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2021 11:48 AM (AJzTi)

224 Without context we don't know what Biden was shouting. Could have been anything. Maybe something historic like, you know, the thing. We may never know.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:48 AM (/uaBM)

225 Dad was a huge Gershwin fan. That young lady's performance is magnificent.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at September 11, 2021 11:50 AM (x8Wzq)

226 216 I think GWB clearly perceives that he managed an administration so objectionable in the long term, that he will die hated by broad majorities of his countrymen. So he's playing up to the Left in hopes of shining up his tarnished Presidency, since they write the history books.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2021 11:45 AM (FvCkv)
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I think this is part of it. Another part is the fight for control of the GOP -- Bush once mused that he might be the last Republican president. He may yet be right.

Posted by: Revenant at September 11, 2021 11:50 AM (+4D1M)

227 >>> Dubya sure seems committed to destroying his own legacy.
Posted by: CppThis at September 11, 2021 11:46 AM (UewuT)

He had a role to play and he carried it all out according to script. They all did, dutiful mouthpieces for our elite masters. There was one man in that position who upset the machine, and all HELL broke free to stop him.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 11, 2021 11:50 AM (Yh0oe)

228 216 I think GWB clearly perceives that he managed an administration so objectionable in the long term, that he will die hated by broad majorities of his countrymen. So he's playing up to the Left in hopes of shining up his tarnished Presidency, since they write the history books.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2021 11:45 AM (FvCkv)

The problem with Bush Jr. has always been that he was more interested in being loved than being effective or respected. His career in toto reads like the story of a rich guy desperately seeking approval from his colleagues.

Posted by: CppThis at September 11, 2021 11:52 AM (UewuT)

229 "Nevertheless, that in no way diminishes the good intentions and subsequent sacrifice on the part of those who stepped up to the plate.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 11, 2021 11:37 AM (Xrfse)"

I was a young man in uniform at the time and it was abundantly clear within weeks that the left was just biding their time, and by 2003 it was blatantly obvious they were trying with every fiber of their being to set us up for Vietnam 2.0. Good intentions aren't nearly as useful as informed cynicism.

I chalk up normal Americans' failure to understand how things were going by 2003 to the same general inattention that allowed Obama to sneak up on so many of th

Posted by: somedood at September 11, 2021 11:53 AM (Q87rR)

230 Is that Hildabeast to the left of Barky and Kameltoe behind?

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:53 AM (2JoB8)

231 I've been to the memorial.
A very quiet and beautiful place.

It is very dusty though.

Posted by: Bruce at September 11, 2021 11:53 AM (vd8XM)

232 Heh. A meme on one of Powerlineblog's Week in Pictures:

Joe Rogan: "I drank water and stayed hydrated last week"

CNN: Joe Rogan drinks dihydrogen monoxide, a solvent used to cool nuclear reactors!

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 11, 2021 11:53 AM (ZSK0i)

233 Marine boy was less than a year old. Oldest son had crawled into bed with me (we're in the west coast) and I was just about to turn on the tv to watch a kid's program and nurse the baby.

I couldn't figure out why every channel had the same movie on. A plane hitting a building. Again and again and again. And all the smoke. And the hysteria. It took a while for me to figure out it was real.

I cried all day.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 11, 2021 11:53 AM (pw0qI)

234 Here, W, let me explain it to you. Once half the people hate you, you're never going to get them to love you. All you're gonna do is get the other half to hate you. Congratulations, dumbass.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at September 11, 2021 11:54 AM (kTF2Z)

235 The Bushies have been plugged into the Deep State for generations, like those human batteries in The Matrix.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:54 AM (/uaBM)

236 "Is that Hildabeast to the left of Barky and Kameltoe behind?"

Yep. The gang's all there. Pelosi and Schumer too. Never was there a worse time for SMOD to forsake us.

Posted by: f'd at September 11, 2021 11:55 AM (Tnijr)

237 In his speech today, Bush 43 condemned extremists "at home and abroad."

I voted for that SOB once for governor and twice for president. Now I wish he would ESAD or at least STFD/STFU.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 11, 2021 11:57 AM (nfrXX)

238 My, SMOD, my SMOD, why hath thou forsaken us?

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 11:57 AM (/uaBM)

239 Bush went weak knees with his War on Terror and his Islam is a religion of peace.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:57 AM (2JoB8)

240 To Rick Rescorla who ran towards the danger so that others may live.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2021 11:57 AM (JpSDr)

241 "193 188
Posted by: somedood at September 11, 2021 11:31 AM (Q87rR)

National Socialism and Communism were very much alike in their basic philosophies.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 11:33 AM (ynpvh)"

They were nearly identical at points in terms of rhetoric, but ultimately words are just words. The non-commie Germans loathed the communists after years of (literal) Antifa nonsense and all sorts of degenerate BS. Marxism has a drive to destroy that can't really be separated out.

Irony alert: the former DDR areas are heavily opposed to most of the commie-driven modern Western Euro BS, having had their fill of it.

Posted by: somedood at September 11, 2021 11:58 AM (Q87rR)

242 They disrespect PDT, but they don't seem to understand when they diss him, they are dissing 1/2 of the country. So basically they are stupid and in all honestly they hate us anyway

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2021 11:58 AM (Irn0L)

243 Watching a 1934 color John Wayne movie. lol. He had nice ass.

Posted by: Infidel at September 11, 2021 11:58 AM (Kx3kq)

244 https://twitter.com/atensnut/status/
1436698714387714051

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at September 11, 2021 11:07 AM (UHVv4)

He was loudly and relentlessly heckled when he went to NJ to inspect Ida damage. Maybe someone in the crowd sneezed and triggered the heckling memory.

Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 11:58 AM (DJFLF)

245 Bush went weak knees with his War on Terror and his Islam is a religion of peace.
Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:57 AM (2JoB

Yup, didn't he visit a mosque the day after the attack in DC?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 11, 2021 11:59 AM (Irn0L)

246 They know they are dissing us and they do not GAS. They think of us in the same terms the Nazis used against the Jews, as Untermenschen ... sub-humans. They must be destroyed.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 12:00 PM (/uaBM)

247 243 Watching a 1934 color John Wayne movie. lol. He had nice ass.

Posted by: Infidel at September 11, 2021 11:58 AM (Kx3kq)

He was tall too, 6 ft 4 inches

Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 12:00 PM (DJFLF)

248 That charade unraveled quickly. They couldn't restrain themselves any longer than that.

I distinctly remember, the day before the Rangers parachuted into Afghanistan in October 2001, Senator Joe Biden on the floor of the Senate denouncing W because we had not struck back at the terrorists. The thing is, as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, he knew at the time that the response was already underway. His window was closing to make a political hit and he had to act before it was closed forever. What a nasty piece of work.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2021 12:00 PM (BMmaB)

249 "226 216 I think GWB clearly perceives that he managed an administration so objectionable in the long term, that he will die hated by broad majorities of his countrymen. So he's playing up to the Left in hopes of shining up his tarnished Presidency, since they write the history books.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2021 11:45 AM (FvCkv)
--
I think this is part of it. Another part is the fight for control of the GOP -- Bush once mused that he might be the last Republican president. He may yet be right.
Posted by: Revenant at September 11, 2021 11:50 AM (+4D1M)"

I've mentioned before that I hail from a family of GOP pols.

This is who these people really are, and who they have always been. Those in DC are of the same stripe as the older Dem factions - they just like to golf and tut-tut at people more.

The Bushes are deeply intertwined with the 70s-80s-90s flavor of CIA DC factionalism.

Posted by: somedood at September 11, 2021 12:01 PM (Q87rR)

250 *pauses*

Joey Bidet as King Lear?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2021 12:02 PM (JpSDr)

251 >>> Watching a 1934 color John Wayne movie. lol. He had nice ass.

Posted by: Infidel at September 11, 2021 11:58 AM (Kx3kq)

He was tall too, 6 ft 4 inches
Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 12:00 PM (DJFLF)

A tad heavy as well.

Posted by: The Poor Damned Horse at September 11, 2021 12:02 PM (Yh0oe)

252 Looking at pictures of the North Tower an hour ago, for the first time I realized that the smoke coming out of windows far from the crash site must indicate where victims broke the windows to jump.

Evidence of the horrors above the impact zones.

Posted by: Gref at September 11, 2021 12:03 PM (AMIL/)

253 Irony alert: the former DDR areas are heavily opposed to most of the commie-driven modern Western Euro BS, having had their fill of it. Posted by: somedood at September 11, 2021 11:58 AM (Q87rR)

I'm not so sure. They love their cradle to grave social safety net and were the strongest region against nuclear power and in favor of windmills and solar panels.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2021 12:03 PM (BMmaB)

254 Joe Rogan: "I drank water and stayed hydrated last week"

Water is an industrial solvent!

Posted by: Rex B at September 11, 2021 12:04 PM (YglP/)

255 To Rick Rescorla who ran towards the danger so that others may live. Posted by: Anna Puma at September 11, 2021 11:57 AM (JpSDr)

Never forgotten.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2021 12:04 PM (BMmaB)

256 Just as many Dems are realizing that their party has left them, Pubs also are seeing the GOP is not what it used to be. There is a vast majority of people in America today who are prime to become part of a new, patriotic party. That's what Trump tapped into, and was why he had to be destroyed by both original parties. We saw this happen first to the Tea Party, then Trump. What is next? Can we ever gain traction against these leftists on both sides of the aisle?

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 12:05 PM (/uaBM)

257 I also think Bush was a closet Lefty like most Republicans. And when 9/11 happened he was just like "oh shit... This is gonna be like WWII all over again! We can go full-speed ahead on every destructive Uniparty agenda item, and once I win this war everyone will love me for it anyway, just like with the old gimp."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2021 12:07 PM (FvCkv)

258 Stupid garden thread is NOOD.

Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 12:09 PM (/uaBM)

259 Bush went weak knees with his War on Terror and his Islam is a religion of peace. Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 11:57 AM (2JoB

There is no way to get the terrorists without the cooperation of Muslim countries. Alienating the Muslim world is not in our strategic interest. That doesn't mean we all need to be friends or we need to make Afghanistan into Switzerland, but it would have been both tactically and strategically stupid to have overreacted. In the big picture, we have to generally treat them at arms length with respect. Not allies, but not enemies.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2021 12:09 PM (BMmaB)

260 Without context we don't know what Biden was shouting. Could have been anything. Maybe something historic like, you know, the thing. We may never know.

*

It's neat how Biden is every single thing that Democrats insist Trump was.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - what if Marek's was the experiment? at September 11, 2021 12:10 PM (3DjGn)

261 254 Joe Rogan: "I drank water and stayed hydrated last week"

Water is an industrial solvent!

Posted by: Rex B at September 11, 2021 12:04 PM (YglP/)

So powerful it can even dilute some of the most powerful acids.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

262 Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at September 11, 2021 11:50 AM

I think they did a good job with the sound system for the video, too.

The entire orchestra seems to be paying attention. Nobody pulling out their phones when they don't have a part.

Posted by: KT at September 11, 2021 12:14 PM (0ghg2)

263 >>> Just as many Dems are realizing that their party has left them, Pubs also are seeing the GOP is not what it used to be. There is a vast majority of people in America today who are prime to become part of a new, patriotic party. That's what Trump tapped into, and was why he had to be destroyed by both original parties. We saw this happen first to the Tea Party, then Trump. What is next? Can we ever gain traction against these leftists on both sides of the aisle?
Posted by: Ruthless at September 11, 2021 12:05 PM (/uaBM)

Freedom Party, Leave Me the F*** Alone party. Something along those lines. To much liberaltarian grift around to allow that though.

I think that the best we can hope for is an utter collapse of authority followed by battling ruling factions grinding each other into dust while large swaths of people gain personal sovereignty, cutting their selves off from centralized authority and economy.

Our elite talk about this utopia they manage where all of us peasants have no property and love it! How about we have no elites anymore and love it.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 11, 2021 12:17 PM (Yh0oe)

264 Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2021 12:09 PM (BMmaB)

Yeah, but GWB with that religion of peace folderol. And he did try to make them into the Swiss, and the Muslim population of the US has more than tripled since 9/11. He was a disaster with that crap, and in many other ways.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2021 12:18 PM (FvCkv)

265 At this point, looking back on the past 20 years and the degree to which our government and our academe have actively opposed defense of Western civilization, we need to celebrate 9/11 in the same way we celebrate the Tonkin Gulf Resolution, the burning of Washington by the British, etc.

The points we look back on and say "Man, we really fucked THAT one up, didn't we?"

I would add one more to those: the Boumidienne v Bush decision.

The brown cherry on the fecal pie that was Bush 43's handling of his wars was his administration's belief they had forever to figure out how to handle detainees, and that it wasn't about justice or procedure, it was about messaging.

Our involvement with Afghanistan was bookended by incompetent administrations.

Posted by: JEM at September 11, 2021 12:19 PM (8erNz)

266 To Rick Rescorla who ran towards the danger so that others may live.

His story and what took place on Flight 93 always sends me directly into introspective mode. How would I have reacted in the same circumstances? Self-preservation or self-sacrifice? I will probably never know but would like to think that most of us have the capacity to do what's right, when called upon. Damn, I gotta clear my head and carry on.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 11, 2021 12:21 PM (Xrfse)

267 Every time Dumbya opens his mouth, I regret voting for and defending him at the time even more.

Posted by: butch at September 11, 2021 12:23 PM (cHvOo)

268 Can anyone imagine Reagan participating in something which snubbed Trump and Rudy. The Bush/Romney GOP is made up of entitled trash.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at September 11, 2021 12:24 PM (y7DUB)

269 I tuned out GWB speech. Sick of "that's who we are" line. Which to them is just another way of saying Americans come last.

A truly sad day for this country.

Posted by: Ziba at September 11, 2021 12:24 PM (S1hrL)

270 Every time Dumbya opens his mouth, I regret voting for and defending him at the time even more.
Posted by: butch at September 11, 2021 12:23 PM (cHvOo)

Yup...he had us all fooled. Fuck him and his whole shitstain of a family.

Bastards all of them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 11, 2021 12:25 PM (R/m4+)

271 Twenty years ago, our government declared War on terrorists in Afghanistan.

Twenty years later, this Occupation Government has secured a stunning victory for those terrorists and declared War on America.

Happy Fucking 9/11.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 11, 2021 12:26 PM (Ndje9)

272 That pic...look at all those supposedly vaccinated jerks all wearing their symbolic matching black masks outside...and the nominal head jerk pulls his down to scream in rage..which if you believe the Narrative would launch huge amounts of deadly virus supposedly

Posted by: Azjaeger at September 11, 2021 12:27 PM (3/XaG)

273 I cried today like I cried 20 years ago.

Posted by: Ziba at September 11, 2021 12:28 PM (S1hrL)

274 It's hard to understand how we have reached a time where people are demonized for holding a different point of view politically.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at September 11, 2021 12:29 PM (YynYJ)

275 The Bush family is a steaming pile of dog shit. That is all.

Posted by: Capital Eff at September 11, 2021 12:37 PM (dynG0)

276 I think if you could really know what went on inside Bush 2s head, you would find someone who actually liked the idea of traditional American type things like soldiers and ranches and cowboy stuff but isn't all that bright and doesn't have much backbone or alpha and was always told by his family and his political machine that you need to do these things or you will lose your privilege and comfort. Also being a weak person, he doesn't like to stand up to people. He would much rather be hugged by Mooch. "Niceness" Kind of the opposite of Trump, who obviously got a kick out of smirking in the faces of the Opposition who he despised.

Posted by: Azjaeger at September 11, 2021 12:39 PM (3/XaG)

277 Well, off to other pursuits. Endeavor to persevere, my friends.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 11, 2021 12:40 PM (Xrfse)

278 "Walking comorbidity is unimpressed with your personal health decisions"

https://tinyurl.com/yyw2zbyw

Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 12:41 PM (DJFLF)

279 There is a short as it happened video on Frontpage mag.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 12:42 PM (2JoB8)

280 272 That pic...look at all those supposedly vaccinated jerks all wearing their symbolic matching black masks outside...and the nominal head jerk pulls his down to scream in rage..which if you believe the Narrative would launch huge amounts of deadly virus supposedly
Posted by: Azjaeger at September 11, 2021 12:27 PM (3/XaG)

Probably one of the reasons I'm skeptical about a lot of what's going on right now is that for the last 20 years I've watched "we are under existential threat and must take the fight to the bad guys, it's urgent!" morph into "buhuhu it's all for the poor widdle foreign girls, and victory conditions are just a state of mind."

Makes me wonder what we'll "know" about Covid a year from now, five years from now, etc.

Posted by: CppThis at September 11, 2021 12:43 PM (UewuT)

281 I can see my work bench top finally

Posted by: Skip's Phone at September 11, 2021 12:46 PM (2JoB8)

282 "Walking comorbidity is unimpressed with your personal health decisions"

https://tinyurl.com/yyw2zbyw
Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 12:41 PM (DJFLF)

I like one respondent's tweet on that thread:

The power of potato compels you!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 11, 2021 12:47 PM (ZSK0i)

283 266 To Rick Rescorla who ran towards the danger so that others may live.

His story and what took place on Flight 93 always sends me directly into introspective mode. How would I have reacted in the same circumstances? Self-preservation or self-sacrifice? I will probably never know but would like to think that most of us have the capacity to do what's right, when called upon. Damn, I gotta clear my head and carry on.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 11, 2021 12:21 PM (Xrfse)

There was no self-preservation possible once it became obvious the plane was meant as a flying bomb. When you know you are dead either way, go down fighting!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

284 282 "Walking comorbidity is unimpressed with your personal health decisions"

https://tinyurl.com/yyw2zbyw
Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 12:41 PM (DJFLF)

I like one respondent's tweet on that thread:

The power of potato compels you!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at September 11, 2021 12:47 PM (ZSK0i)

He stays away from me...I have quite the collection of potato peelers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

285 >>>How did we get to this day?

>Too many big brains gambling with other people's money and lives. And a massive failure of leadership.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 11, 2021 12:49 PM (z3kfP)

286 Naomi Wolf would like to apologize for her team - the demorats - ushering in the Long Tyranny...lolol

https://tinyurl.com/5bnzpdva

too little too late honey

Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 12:50 PM (DJFLF)

287 The most disturbing thing about Covid is that it is truly impossible to know for sure the truth. Is it really dangerous? Is there a big risk? There is NO completely believable information. But one of the big indicators is how the self-interested big shots who you would think would have the best access to real verifiable info behave, especially considering they aren't kids in great shape. When no one is looking, they think, they don't follow the rules they say are important. That tells you THEY aren't worried about it. You know they would protect themselves first.

Posted by: Azjaeger at September 11, 2021 12:50 PM (3/XaG)

288 How millions islam n Marxists?...100 million?

Waiter...there's a dead soul in my soup.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 11, 2021 12:51 PM (obcVG)

289 267 Every time Dumbya opens his mouth, I regret voting for and defending him at the time even more.
Posted by: butch at September 11, 2021 12:23 PM (cHvOo)

Well, if it makes you feel any better, it's unlikely that the nation would have survived a Gore presidency. He wouldn't have done a damn thing to curtail Islamic terrorism, and The South Would Rise Again(tm) once enough of their malls and such got blown up.

We probably could have survived Kerry, though. By 2004 the safety valve was sufficiently opened.

Posted by: CppThis at September 11, 2021 12:53 PM (UewuT)

290 "Is it really dangerous? Is there a big risk?"

We actually know a lot, and have for awhile. It's not the Black Plague, but we act as af it is. A huge Own Goal for humanity.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2021 12:53 PM (ZHVt1)

291 The other day before Bidete mouthed the words of the "vaccine" "mandate", I opined here that fed workers reallly don't have to worry, there will be exemptions and waivers within their ranks.

and here is one notable exemption - Congress:
https://tinyurl.com/4fmyarfu

and the other is the USPS. Those are the two I have heard of so far.

Trust the #Science people!

Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 12:53 PM (DJFLF)

292
Happy Fucking 9/11.

Land of the free. Home of the brave.

Get your shot, you undesirable deplorable!

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 11, 2021 12:54 PM (63Dwl)

293 Gore/butchy all in for global inc.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 11, 2021 12:54 PM (obcVG)

294 290 "Is it really dangerous? Is there a big risk?"

We actually know a lot, and have for awhile. It's not the Black Plague, but we act as af it is. A huge Own Goal for humanity.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2021 12:53 PM (ZHVt1)

Doesn't matter if it was accidental or done on purpose; it has been exploited to curtail our rights and install tyranical administrations around the world.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

295 The Gipper Lives wish I had Twitter or Facebook to retweet that

Posted by: Skip's Phone at September 11, 2021 12:55 PM (2JoB8)

296 Stay out da Bushes.

Seriously George W? Do you have to go and prove my whole political life has been based on lies?

Posted by: blaster at September 11, 2021 12:57 PM (hgEWn)

297 What do you think Xi thinks when he sees Biden screaming during a memorial?

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2021 12:58 PM (ZHVt1)

298 297 What do you think Xi thinks when he sees Biden screaming during a memorial?

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2021 12:58 PM (ZHVt1)

Doesn't matter; he's getting his money's worth.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

299 Biggest bomb Dubya delivered was VBIED PT Cruiser carrying John Roberts.

Posted by: Rex B at September 11, 2021 01:01 PM (HpljN)

300 The picture today at the memorial has left to right: Bill, Hillary, Obama, Michelle, Biden, and Doctor Jill.

Michelle is the most physically imposing of the lot, and you know could kick the snot out of any of the others.

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 11, 2021 01:02 PM (ZHVt1)

301 291 and here is one notable exemption - Congress:
https://tinyurl.com/4fmyarfu

and the other is the USPS. Those are the two I have heard of so far.

Trust the #Science people!
Posted by: kallisto at September 11, 2021 12:53 PM (DJFLF)

They're gonna slowly walk this back as politically useful (Congress, alphabet soup) or otherwise too-big-to-fail (USPS) entities demand their special consideration for services rendered to The Cause. Businesses may or may not go along with their side of the mandate; it'll probably be one of those things where big corporations demand it of the cube serfs while top execs get caught dirty not following the little-people rules.

Posted by: CppThis at September 11, 2021 01:02 PM (UewuT)

302 Everything you know is wrong.

I'd do a 80% memory wipe. Reinstall operating system.

Donot reinstall old operating system.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at September 11, 2021 01:02 PM (obcVG)

303 There was no self-preservation possible once it became obvious the plane was meant as a flying bomb. When you know you are dead either way, go down fighting! Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 11, 2021 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

I have drilled into my kids that if you are ever in a mass shooter situation, rare as it may be, don't just die. Attack with whatever you have and you might save your own or someone else's life.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2021 01:02 PM (BMmaB)

304 They're gonna slowly walk this back as politically useful (Congress, alphabet soup) or otherwise too-big-to-fail (USPS) entities demand their special consideration for services rendered to The Cause. Businesses may or may not go along with their side of the mandate; it'll probably be one of those things where big corporations demand it of the cube serfs while top execs get caught dirty not following the little-people rules. Posted by: CppThis at September 11, 2021 01:02 PM (UewuT)

The analogy I use is the exemptions from the Cadillac Tax for health care plans that had benefits that were better than Obamacare. They gave those out to all their favored constituencies.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2021 01:04 PM (BMmaB)

305 Yeah, but GWB with that religion of peace folderol. And he did try to make them into the Swiss, and the Muslim population of the US has more than tripled since 9/11. He was a disaster with that crap, and in many other ways. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 11, 2021 12:18 PM (FvCkv)

Oh, agreed, but we need the Muslim nations to cooperate to a certain extent in order to fight this thing. I'd love to nuke Mecca as much as the next guy, but that's not a practical answer.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2021 01:07 PM (BMmaB)

306 You'll know they're serious about vaccinations being necessary for public health when they start vaccinating the illegal aliens, the federal parolees and probationers, and people getting public assistance. Until they do that, it's all for show.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at September 11, 2021 01:09 PM (BMmaB)

307 I don't trust Muslims as a general rule, but that being said I find it interesting that the ones who claim Mohammed in their family tree--the Hashemites of Jordan--are the least crazy of the bunch. The Arab world would be in a much better place today if they hadn't lost most of their holdings in the 20th century.

Posted by: CppThis at September 11, 2021 01:11 PM (UewuT)

308 I don't see how the vaccine mandate could possibly br politically advantageous to the dems. There is no database of names of the vaccinated, businesses will force the employees but if enough of them walk how will they be replaced? Short of coming door to door or freezing your accounts, they have no force behind the threats. If they start freezing assets or door to door shots, there will be bigger things for them to worry about.

Posted by: Megthered at September 11, 2021 01:11 PM (4rnDH)

309 I said early on that a best case scenario would have a functional vaccine rolling out in about 18 months. They jumped the gun, obviously, and for their efforts we got a "vaccine" that demonstrably doesn't work as intended. That Novavax stuff sounds like it's on the right side of my timeline, but is it the real deal? Eh, maybe...worth doing some research on at least.

Posted by: CppThis at September 11, 2021 01:16 PM (UewuT)

310 Honestly I thought it was a Babylon bee thing. Who the eff actually painted a mural of the martyr Floyd in AF?

Posted by: keena at September 11, 2021 01:17 PM (BqNQr)

311 310 Honestly I thought it was a Babylon bee thing. Who the eff actually painted a mural of the martyr Floyd in AF?
Posted by: keena at September 11, 2021 01:17 PM (BqNQr)

The sort of people that proudly fly the rainbow flag at the embassy and are then shocked--truly shocked, I say--that the Taliban is suddenly a resurgent force.

Posted by: CppThis at September 11, 2021 01:21 PM (UewuT)

312 Why is Dr. Jill handing out beers to the fire department? Is she getting them loose and frisky for the gangbang after the memorial ceremony?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 11, 2021 01:32 PM (z3kfP)

313 @DanScavino

President Trump visiting the NYPD and FDNY on the 20th Anniversary of #September11 #NeverForget

https://tinyurl.com/yh95m3rv

Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2021 01:32 PM (cF8AT)

314 CppThis at September 11, 2021 01:21 PM

The people who commissioned a George Floyd mural in Afghanistan may be the same ones who thought it would be a good idea to teach women in hijab that a urinal detached from plumbing displayed in a museum was important, revolutionary art.

Posted by: KT at September 11, 2021 01:34 PM (0ghg2)

315 lol KT.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at September 11, 2021 01:35 PM (lImFe)

316 There were so many heroes on this day 20 years ago. Many many more since who have paid the ultimate price, or even paid dearly with their combat wounds.

The story of Rick Rescola is but one story of the heroes.
https://tinyurl.com/4834dt6r

We need more Rick Rescola's - especially today.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 11, 2021 01:36 PM (D3cJf)

317 Trip to used book store and came back empty handed.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 01:36 PM (2JoB8)

318 Fuck Biden.

Posted by: LASue at September 11, 2021 01:36 PM (Ed8Zd)

319 The same people using lawfare to impose multiculturalism on us are using warfare to impose western mores on the entire world.
Posted by: squid_hunt
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They're imposing their version of western mores, which does not include any Judeo-Christian values.

And it's not working out too well.

Posted by: SMH - The War has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at September 11, 2021 01:38 PM (lImFe)

320 W the Ho and joe got their digs in against domestic terrorists AKA Trump voters I see

Posted by: It's me donna at September 11, 2021 01:42 PM (L91xj)

321 I fly the flag in accordance with protocol 24/7 from a pole attached to the house. It is flown in celebration of my country. I make no apology for doing so.

You'll NEVER hear me disrespect this nation in any manner.

Posted by: irongrampa at September 11, 2021 01:45 PM (KATBx)

322 #FJB

Posted by: keena at September 11, 2021 01:55 PM (BqNQr)

323 The Real Heroes Are Dead
The story of Rick Rescorla, who he was, what he did.
Lest we forget......

https://tinyurl.com/d7pk4v5u

If you have never read this, you should.
If you have read it, I would read it again.

It is humbling and inspirational.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at September 11, 2021 01:57 PM (tjZg/)

324 Leftist are so sure everyone will see their views if they just see the light or something.

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 01:58 PM (2JoB8)

325 That they are totally idiots never occurs to them

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 01:58 PM (2JoB8)

326 Posted by: Tami at September 11, 2021 01:32 PM (cF8AT)

That was thoughtful of President Trump. I have a feeling that many of those people knowing the respect he holds for police and first responders were grateful for the visit and probably voted for him in November.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 11, 2021 01:59 PM (AJzTi)

327 I am terribly sorry I ever supported George W. Bush. He is a putrid establishment clown and was a spectacular failure as a President.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at September 11, 2021 02:00 PM (996BY)

328 PET NOOD

And so killing this thread sadly, but still will post thoughts

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at September 11, 2021 02:02 PM (2JoB8)

329 I'm due for a new flag, is the Betsy Ross a good one or will I get my house burned down cuz racist?

Posted by: A dude in MI at September 11, 2021 02:13 PM (/6GbT)

330 Just made my Reagan Bush 84 tee a midriff. It's a bad look, but not as bad as the Bush family these days. 41 was bad, but 43 is a disgrace today.

Posted by: normal isn't coming back at September 11, 2021 02:24 PM (oWBc3)

331 Skip, the thread killer. Beware

Posted by: Braenyard at September 11, 2021 02:30 PM (wn8pH)

332 It's like this every week this last decade

Posted by: Skip's Phone at September 11, 2021 02:37 PM (2JoB8)

333 New Neo has put up a few posts to think about

Posted by: Skip at September 11, 2021 03:20 PM (2JoB8)

334 Fantastic doc on al Qaeda's origins. (Spoiler: the enemy is us.)
https://odysee.com/@corbettreport:0/alqaeda1:b

Posted by: JBirks at September 11, 2021 04:28 PM (FG2im)

335 Makes you wonder how the Pollocks ever became the butt of dumb jokes.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at September 11, 2021 06:46 PM (hlxe7)

336 George Will once wrote about how tourists to national parks have been heard to say ..
"Isn't it amazing how so many battles were fought on parkland"

Having been to Shanksville, I can say that the plane couldn't have landed in a more remote place, so close to a Turnpike exit.

Posted by: SMOD at September 12, 2021 04:00 PM (X5CsJ)

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