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If you had never seen The Incredibles, this tweet would be horrifying

Play it with the sound on

pic.twitter.com/FHoRSOT4WA
— ONT WTF (@OntWtf) August 27, 2021

Friday night quiz

It's a good question. How do you stand when you're just standing around. I sometimes stand hands on hips, but more often than not I'm an arm crosser. How about you?

What do you call a parody that is indistinguishable from reality?

Speaking of something that seems entirely plausible...

Anyone watch Practical Jokers? I do, sometimes, if I'm just channel surfing. The guys seem to genuinely like each other and lots of the gags are genuinely funny. However, I can't seem to watch more than maybe 2 episodes at a time before it starts wearing thin.

Fido Friday: I want to play ball! edition

That smile. I love that smile

pic.twitter.com/hXYop4n9ta
— ONT WTF (@OntWtf) August 27, 2021

When I was in high school, a buddy of mine had a garage punk band they named Two Guns Each. They never got beyond playing in his basement, and I haven't thought of that in over 30 years, but this clip reminded me of that band.

Cartoons that hit too close to home

Not thinking things through, part I

Not thinking things through, part II

Cartoons that hit too close to home, part II

Does anyone know what this is? Besides horrifying, I mean

pic.twitter.com/FaqAvFcBta
— ONT WTF (@OntWtf) August 27, 2021

This happens with Joe, but he's just wandered off

Gift idea for the friend who has everything

I've never seen this picture before

These guys discovered a sure fire way to make any girl wet instantly

pic.twitter.com/7BHU77Zl2Q
— ONT WTF (@OntWtf) August 27, 2021

How to pun

Any HP fans out there?

I, uh, made the news this week

Sensible chuckle of the week

Tonight's ONT has been brought to you by um..you know....The thing.

Posted by: WeirdDave at 10:00 PM

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1 Oh yeah - Friday night ONT! 'Sup, Weird Dave?

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:02 PM (mZUr4)

2 First

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (VcFUs) - at August 27, 2021 09:02 PM (VcFUs)

3 1

Posted by: callsign claymore at August 27, 2021 09:02 PM (l+QuE)

4 Poo. Congrats, Doof.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (VcFUs) - at August 27, 2021 09:02 PM (VcFUs)

5 Newsmax reporting drone strikes on ISIS in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2021 09:02 PM (63Dwl)

6 Dammit doof!

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 27, 2021 09:02 PM (U2p+3)

7 Hey, Doof! Horde! WeirdDave!

Posted by: callsign claymore at August 27, 2021 09:03 PM (l+QuE)

8 Well heck, how can I be first when there are so many clever and quick folks here. *sigh*

Posted by: Farmer at August 27, 2021 09:04 PM (55Qr6)

9 Top pic was posted at Terminus.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 27, 2021 09:04 PM (4l77G)

10 Years ago while standing I always stood with my arms crossed. Then I learned that's a big no no if you're in sales. So.. I stand with my hands behind my back or in front of me.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 27, 2021 09:05 PM (nxdel)

11 Thanks for the ONT.

I kind of doubt the Lincoln photo. It is not like they had Iphones. Taking a photo was a pretty involved process. I'll click the link and see what it has to say.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 27, 2021 09:05 PM (z4k8L)

12 Allow your enemy to set up your protective perimeter from the enemy.

Posted by: Sun Tzu at August 27, 2021 09:06 PM (LJsYz)

13 I don't know what that underwater creature is but I do know that the Chinese eat it.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 27, 2021 09:06 PM (AiZBA)

14 Good evening all!

Posted by: Moonbeam at August 27, 2021 09:07 PM (qe5CM)

15 COOK PEOPLE!!!

Where is Cannival Bob, btw?
I don't seem to see him online lately

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at August 27, 2021 09:07 PM (oEn12)

16 Plus, Rowling is constantly making up stuff that was obviously not in the books (Hermione was black, Dumbledore was gay, Hagrid was a tranny, etc.)

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 27, 2021 09:07 PM (z4k8L)

17 Good evening everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2021 09:08 PM (mD/uy)

18 I'm on a roll lately. 5 or 6 ONT Firsts in the past week or so. On an iPhone too!

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:08 PM (mZUr4)

19 Allow your enemy to set up your protective perimeter from the enemy.
Posted by: Sun Tzu at August 27, 2021 09:06 PM (LJsYz)

Nothing like the tried and true military strategies distilled from centuries of conflict!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ Lay back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at August 27, 2021 09:08 PM (hOUT3)

20 Lincoln picture is horrible, it is a photo of him dead or nearly. Why , Dave ? Why ?

Posted by: runner, distinguished commenter at August 27, 2021 09:08 PM (V13WU)

21 I tend to stand with my thumbs hooked in my pockets.

That little girl is going to be *trouble* in 10 years or so. If you're lucky, she'll just hurt you emotionally. But if you try anything she doesn't like...

She'll make the right guy a wonderful wife.

Posted by: KCSteve at August 27, 2021 09:08 PM (gw2g1)

22 Evening.

Is it just me or is WeirdDave very rapidly transforming into a Weeb?

Posted by: Robert - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 09:09 PM (1Yy3c)

23 Plus, Rowling is constantly making up stuff that was obviously not in the books (Hermione was black, Dumbledore was gay, Hagrid was a tranny, etc.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 27, 2021 09:07 PM (z4k8L)

If it makes just one extra ten Euro sale, selling your soul is cheap at the price!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ Lay back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at August 27, 2021 09:09 PM (hOUT3)

24 Lincoln picture is horrible, it is a photo of him dead or nearly. Why , Dave ? Why ?
Posted by: runner, distinguished commenter at August 27, 2021 09:08 PM (V13WU)

It's disturbing.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 27, 2021 09:09 PM (hP4QN)

25 I kind of doubt the Lincoln photo. It is not like they had Iphones. Taking a photo was a pretty involved process. I'll click the link and see what it has to say.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 27, 2021 09:05 PM (z4k8L)

Yeah, I'm pretty skeptical too. That image of Lincoln doesn't really track with eyewitness descriptions of his last hours, and there was someone with him all the time after he was shot, so it's hard to believe anyone would have had the opportunity to snap a picture, even if it didn't take like 20 minutes.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 27, 2021 09:10 PM (tp+tP)

26 She already has more money than the queen (or had.) Definitely more than Queen these days.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 27, 2021 09:10 PM (z4k8L)

27 Evening ya'll!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 09:10 PM (axyOa)

28 "It's a good question. How do you stand when you're just standing around. I sometimes stand hands on hips, but more often than not I'm an arm crosser. How about you?"

Mostly, arms to my sides. Sometimes will hook a thumb in my trouser pocket. I like to be ready. Fookers out there trying to slug-bug the back of an old man's head. I tend toward situational awareness at all times. Even at home. *lookin' at you sis*

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 27, 2021 09:10 PM (4l77G)

29 Great ont.

Posted by: BacktoGA at August 27, 2021 09:11 PM (MPYWI)

30 Do I need to mention this?

ONE WEEK!

JUST ONE WEEK AWAY UNTIL THE NEW IRON MAIDEN ALBUM, SENJUTSU!

CAN YOU *FUCKING* FEEL IT?!?!

Posted by: Robert, amped up - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 09:11 PM (1Yy3c)

31 Plus the face does not look quite right.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 27, 2021 09:11 PM (z4k8L)

32 For the Record the US Navy Dental Corps Chief's Office did not order that Drone Strike

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:11 PM (Irn0L)

33 This intentional Deep State debacle in Afghanistan is a metaphor for how 9/11 happened, the abject failure of the GWOT, the squandering of blood and treasure, and how we got to the fraught and precarious position we now find ourselves in.

It's all come full circle but now with a fake President and a Junta running our country.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 27, 2021 09:11 PM (9h4bD)

34 Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 27, 2021 09:12 PM (vuisn)

35 That ONT WTF is the shit nightmares are made of!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 09:12 PM (axyOa)

36 Hey, Doof! Horde! WeirdDave!
Posted by: callsign claymore at August 27, 2021 09:03 PM (l+QuE)

Howdy Double C!

You always appreciate my musical recommendations. Today I've been sprinkling Stevie Ray Vaughan links throughout threads. Today is the anniversary of his death - 8/27/1990.

The House Is Rockin
https://youtu.be/-G84P5K-W1c

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:13 PM (mZUr4)

37 Biden will find out about the drone strike when he wakes up tomorrow and they give him a script to read.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 27, 2021 09:13 PM (xPl2J)

38 Hey everybody! Hey ONT! Hey WeirdDave!

After being paroled today, Sirhan Sirhan went out with friends for shabu shabu and then listened to some Duran Duran.

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 27, 2021 09:13 PM (L2ZTs)

39 good evening

Posted by: wing at August 27, 2021 09:13 PM (PlW9M)

40 Yeah, that doesn't even look like ole' Honest Abe

Posted by: Common Tater at August 27, 2021 09:13 PM (faXIs)

41 Good evening morons and thanks wd

Puns are the lowest form of humor. This is known.

And limericks are the highest.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2021 09:13 PM (EZebt)

42 You know, until now I've never had an association between "Calvin Coolidge" and "zany antics".

I'd always thought of him as an extreme straight-arrow stick-in-the-mud guy.

Maybe the Bob Dole of his day. Serious on the outside, party animal on the inside.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:14 PM (LJ6NL)

43 Tonight's wedding reception open bar is much like one I would put together if I know I was inviting a bunch of 'rons to my reception:

Miller Lite and Bud Light cans
White Claw Variety Pack cans
$2 Chuck Trader Joe Chardonnay, Pinot Grigio, Red Blend and White Zinfandel
1.75 liter Ronrico Silver Rum
3 2-liters of Food Club brand Cola

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 27, 2021 09:14 PM (QCP30)

44 There was no "death mask" done, two masks during lifetime and a cast of hands.

Posted by: runner, distinguished commenter at August 27, 2021 09:14 PM (V13WU)

45 After being paroled today, Sirhan Sirhan went out with friends for shabu shabu and then listened to some Duran Duran.
Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 27, 2021 09:13 PM (L2ZTs)

He deserves death by bunga bunga

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:14 PM (mZUr4)

46 I actually stand every way listed depending on the situation . I guess my default is hands on the side.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 27, 2021 09:15 PM (2DOZq)

47 Casual Friday ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/media

*scroll down

Posted by: kbdabear at August 27, 2021 09:15 PM (qAR6u)

48 Do not know what the creature was, but probably really small and there are at least 10 right now on your tongue.

Posted by: Fred at August 27, 2021 09:15 PM (wgxgK)

49 Sirhan Sirhan getting out of prison is how we know the Kennedy family no longer has any clout to speak of.

It's like the Richard Pryor routine of how he knew Manson would never get out of jail. "As long as they make coffee, that motherfucker's gonna be in jail."

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:15 PM (LJ6NL)

50 Newsmax reporting drone strikes on ISIS in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2021 09:02 PM (63Dwl)
===

This regime has zero credibility.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2021 09:15 PM (EZebt)

51 I don't think that was Lincoln.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 27, 2021 09:15 PM (ybIRR)

52 Skipped the content.

55!

Posted by: tbodie at August 27, 2021 09:16 PM (c7nKG)

53 And yes! Here we are again!
Serious? Silly? Fun?
Who can tell over here at ONT land...
I'm giddy with anticipation...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 27, 2021 09:16 PM (MViHT)

54 Haven't seen an article myself yet but just heard US carried out some revenge attacks. We sure we're in a position yet to do that?

Posted by: Pudding Head at August 27, 2021 09:16 PM (AApC4)

55 Drone strikes while we're still stuck in Box Canyon?

Posted by: Anti-Faucist at August 27, 2021 09:16 PM (po5ZZ)

56 > Miller Lite and Bud Light cans
White Claw Variety Pack cans

Saw a cartoon recently -- soiboi standing aside while his girlfriend changes a tire. "This is what happens when you drink White Claw and your girlfriend drinks Busch Light".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (LJ6NL)

57 Stevie Ray Vaughn - Sound Check

https://youtu.be/grBmQwLSlDw

Just a sound check. A sound check that is better than most other bands live shows.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (QFVV9)

58 Is it just me or is WeirdDave very rapidly transforming into a Weeb?

You do realize that I don't make most of these, I just find them, right? Plus I can spell "pockets".

And I do not know if the Lincoln picture is real, I found it interesting because I have never seen it before.

Posted by: Weirddave at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (GtpEB)

59 Puns are the lowest form of humor. This is known.

And limericks are the highest.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2021 09:13 PM (EZebt)

Dad always told me puns are the lowest form of bread. But he loves puns.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (4l77G)

60 Damn.

I blame you people for not coomenting fast enough.

Posted by: tbodie at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (c7nKG)

61

From article with that pic (the sun - uk newspaper, 10/2/2020)
"Abraham Lincoln deathbed photo taken 'hours after assassination' is '99% genuine' says forensic expert"

it is the real deal. very disturbing.

Posted by: runner, distinguished commenter at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (V13WU)

62 Re Sirhan Sirhan:

I think it made more sense when sins could be actually forgiven by a Higher Power, not by a bunch on idiots drunk on their own power!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ Lay back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (hOUT3)

63 I'm thinking, we have extremely well armed enemies over there right now, barely any presence of our own, and nobody who's gonna volunteer to help us this time around. Seems a little hasty to start the revenge attacks

Posted by: Pudding Head at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (AApC4)

64 I stand with one hand in a pocket.

Posted by: Michelle Fields at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (Owx4w)

65 Sirhan Sirhan getting out of prison is how we know the Kennedy family no longer has any clout to speak of.

??? 2 of Kennedy's sons spoke in his behalf to spring him. The Left is deluded.

I will be very pissed of they do not deport this fuck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (Irn0L)

66 Good evening morons and thanks wd

Puns are the lowest form of humor. This is known.

And limericks are the highest.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2021 09:13 PM (EZebt)

Puns are the basis for many (most??) dad jokes. Your "lowest form of humor" comment does not compute!!

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (mZUr4)

67 The bourbon tonight is medicinal, Horde. *#&! shoulder feels like a tannerite burst went off right in the joint.

*pours bourbon* ONT Greetings, Horde! Cheers!*

hmm... let's see if this'll work? /pain Dammit. Pixy 0.7 ain't supportin' that html command.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (QzJWU)

68 Weirddave - it is real.

Posted by: runner, distinguished commenter at August 27, 2021 09:18 PM (V13WU)

69 Great.

Now y'all comment.

Posted by: tbodie at August 27, 2021 09:18 PM (c7nKG)

70 The nice thing for CENTCOM about drone strikes is they can hit some terrorist cousin's goat and they'll call it a success

Posted by: kbdabear at August 27, 2021 09:18 PM (qAR6u)

71 Weird green thing

Melibe viridis

Posted by: lkreinitz at August 27, 2021 09:18 PM (iHEnm)

72 I often think Calvin Coolidge was funny as hell in private life. He kind of has that knowing half smile in that famous photo.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 27, 2021 09:18 PM (4l77G)

73 Haven't seen an article myself yet but just heard US carried out some revenge attacks. We sure we're in a position yet to do that?
Posted by: Pudding Head at August 27, 2021 09:16 PM (AApC4)

Trust your betters...

and their lackey media!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ Lay back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at August 27, 2021 09:19 PM (hOUT3)

74 What to do with hands...
Down in my pants usually works pretty well...but, hey. That's just me....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 27, 2021 09:19 PM (MViHT)

75 Dammit Mary, I need another portrait like I need a goddamn hole in the head!

Posted by: Abe Lincoln at August 27, 2021 09:19 PM (kTF2Z)

76 Dad always told me puns are the lowest form of bread. But he loves puns.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son

Bread puns always make you Wonder.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:19 PM (KCbdU)

77 I stand with one hand in a pocket.
Posted by: Michelle Fields at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (Owx4w)

Same!!

Posted by: Alannis Morissette at August 27, 2021 09:20 PM (mZUr4)

78 This regime has zero credibility.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2021 09:15 PM (EZebt)

You know they just threw darts at the board and picked those locations to drone.

Posted by: WiNO at August 27, 2021 09:20 PM (EpDzw)

79 I will be very pissed of they do not deport this fuck
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (Irn0L)

Come on man, he hasn't even had a chance to use his Gold EBT card yet!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ Lay back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at August 27, 2021 09:20 PM (hOUT3)

80 What kind of guns is the girl shooting?

Posted by: davidt at August 27, 2021 09:20 PM (Owx4w)

81 It looks to me like a fake that tried to meet some of the published accounts, one of his eyes was bulging out iirc, due to the path of the bullet.

His bodygurard that night left his post at Ford's theater and spent the night getting drunk at the bar, as was his custom.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 27, 2021 09:20 PM (faXIs)

82 Thank you for the prayers this morning, horde!

Marine finished his 1000m open ocean swim in full cammies and combat boots this morning.

Then he went to work.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 27, 2021 09:21 PM (U2p+3)

83 Weirddave - it is real.
Posted by: runner, distinguished commenter at August 27, 2021 09:18 PM (V13WU)

But not spectacular

Posted by: Teri Hatcher at August 27, 2021 09:21 PM (mZUr4)

84 Bread puns always make you Wonder.

.....

They require a rye sense of humor.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 27, 2021 09:21 PM (QCP30)

85 Sirhan Sirhan getting out of prison is how we know the Kennedy family no longer has any clout to speak of.

It's like the Richard Pryor routine of how he knew Manson would never get out of jail. "As long as they make coffee, that motherfucker's gonna be in jail."
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:15 PM (LJ6NL)

The opposite, actually. The Kennedy family was mostly responsible for his release. Mainly because they know the truth, which is that Sirhan didn't kill anybody, including their dad.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:21 PM (5ieoM)

86 76 Bread puns always make you Wonder.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:19 PM (KCbdU)/i]

But they're good for getting a rise out of someone.

Posted by: CppThis at August 27, 2021 09:21 PM (UewuT)

87 So ONT is hiring?
So what about that dental plan?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 09:21 PM (axyOa)

88 I don't think this is The Bee because it's a little dark, but...

"BREAKING: Derek Chauvin Released After Changing Plea To 'I Saved Countless Lives By Killing George Floyd'"

Posted by: t-bird at August 27, 2021 09:21 PM (WLHrn)

89 I feel very sorry for the LT COL from the Marines who got relieved of Duty for criticizing the Pentagon. As I was telling CBD's off line, that is why I deeped sixed my FB account a few months ago. I was afraid of something I might post in a fit of rage or disapointment one night.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (Irn0L)

90 Drone attacks are pretty available anytime anywhere.

They got some ISIS-K planner? Okay. Boy, I sure hope they keep the attacks proportional. You know, just go after one guy who was attached to this event. And not do something crazy like wipe out their whole HQ. Isert rolleyes emoji here

Posted by: blaster at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (mbFEM)

91 Tiny Two-Guns has a Greta Thundberg-esque face, without the scowl

Posted by: Downcast at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (JjMWb)

92 76 Dad always told me puns are the lowest form of bread. But he loves puns.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son

Bread puns always make you Wonder.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable

I bet the horde rises to the occasion.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (U2p+3)

93 65 Sirhan Sirhan getting out of prison is how we know the Kennedy family no longer has any clout to speak of.

??? 2 of Kennedy's sons spoke in his behalf to spring him. The Left is deluded.

I will be very pissed of they do not deport this fuck
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (Irn0L)

I wouldn't be surprised if Biden is scheduled to give speeches at the ambassador Hotel three nights in a row next week.

Deep State gonna Deep State.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (u1eUk)

94 Thirst!

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (ATMED)

95 One of the twelve Marines lost in Kabul was a local boy. Can't imagine what his family is going through right now.

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (0udfB)

96 Bread puns always make you Wonder.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:19 PM (KCbdU)

Pumpernickel? I barely knew her. Sorry. I knead attention.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (4l77G)

97 How do you stand when you're just standing around. I sometimes stand hands on hips, but more often than not I'm an arm crosser. How about you?
---
Depends on the City. In Seattle it is arms out and middle fingers flaring. In El Paso it is like gracious, go in peace. I don't make these rules, I go with the culture in play.

Posted by: LostInSpace at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (ESLBo)

98 And separates the wheat from the chaff.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (U2p+3)

99 Newsmax reporting drone strikes on ISIS in Afghanistan.

So some people who take orders from the US deep state are killing other people who take orders from the US deep state?

Posted by: Methos at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (kOpft)

100 The US military said it used a drone strike to kill a member of the Islamic State group's Afghanistan affiliate Saturday.

That's our big revenge? 1 guy?

Posted by: Pudding Head at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (AApC4)

101 Dad always told me puns are the lowest form of bread. But he loves puns.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son

Bread puns always make you Wonder.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:19 PM (KCbdU)

You said that with a rye smile, didn't you? I kneed to know

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (mZUr4)

102 92 76 Dad always told me puns are the lowest form of bread. But he loves puns.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son

Bread puns always make you Wonder.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable

I bet the horde rises to the occasion.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (U2p+3)

this is the proof

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 27, 2021 09:23 PM (u1eUk)

103 Marine finished his 1000m open ocean swim in full cammies and combat boots this morning.

Then he went to work.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 27, 2021 09:21 PM (U2p+3)

But were they high heel combat boots! That is the real world test!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ Lay back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at August 27, 2021 09:23 PM (hOUT3)

104 That's our big revenge? 1 guy?
Posted by: Pudding Head at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (AApC4)

Well apparently he had a pal with him.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:23 PM (Irn0L)

105 Down in my pants usually works pretty well...but, hey. That's just me....

Hmm.. I wonder how that would go over if I'm doing a craft show and it's a slow night? Just the thought actually makes me giggle.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 27, 2021 09:23 PM (nxdel)

106 I've found the best way to deliver puns is to play it straight as part of a conversation. It's fun to watch the other person lock up, rewind a second or two, and then realize exactly what you'd just said.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 27, 2021 09:23 PM (SchxB)

107 But they're good for getting a rise out of someone.
Posted by: CppThis at August 27, 2021 09:21 PM (UewuT)

Unless leavened with some adult beverages.

Posted by: WiNO at August 27, 2021 09:23 PM (EpDzw)

108 That pic doesn't look like Lincoln. Somebody found an unfortunate corpse who looked quite a bit like Lincoln and decided to make a few bucks selling an image of LINCOLN ON HIS DEATHBED.

Posted by: JuJuBee at August 27, 2021 09:24 PM (1nfB1)

109 Down in my pants usually works pretty well...but, hey. That's just me....
Posted by: COMountainMarie

Go on. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2021 09:24 PM (mD/uy)

110 That switch plate is awful

Posted by: Bigsmith at August 27, 2021 09:24 PM (G/mW5)

111 My, you're a rye wheat.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 27, 2021 09:24 PM (4l77G)

112 36 Thank you, Doof.

SRV: Couldn't Stand the Weather

https://youtu.be/nO23B5C_Mcw

Posted by: callsign claymore at August 27, 2021 09:24 PM (l+QuE)

113 *contemplates The Art of Pun War*

Posted by: Sun Miklos Tzu at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (QzkSJ)

114 someone needs to forward this the appropriate military authorities... although they might approve of her sentiment. (SMH they made E-6)

https://twitter.com/chrissiemayrsb1
/status/1431222618313666560

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (ATMED)

115 I kneed to know

......

I believe you spelt that wrong for a bread pun.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (QCP30)

116 The photo is "real" insofar as it is claimed to be a deathbed photo.

The reason I think it's a hoax, is he looks way too good. Lincoln was one ugly MFer.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (faXIs)

117 How do you think you would look, after seeing a shitty play, getting shot in the head, and then having some hack DRs saw into your Head?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (Irn0L)

118 And I do not know if the Lincoln picture is real, I found it interesting because I have never seen it before.
Posted by: Weirddave at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (GtpEB)

I sincerely doubt it's real. The internet being what it is, it's probably a still from a movie.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (5ieoM)

119 > Trust your betters...

Hey, they still have a whole bunch of multimillion dollar cruise missiles to use up.

And the people who make the multimillion dollar cruise missiles want to go on selling them.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (LJ6NL)

120 I can't keep up with the bread puns, I guess I'm just not in the upper crust.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (KCbdU)

121 Nurse ratched. Congratulate him. And I hope this skill is quite unneeded.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (u82oZ)

122 50 Newsmax reporting drone strikes on ISIS in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2021 09:02 PM (63Dwl)
===

This regime has zero credibility.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 27, 2021 09:15 PM (EZebt)

Exactly. Show actual video with a time stamp, otherwise it's just more bullshit.

Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2021 09:26 PM (Ti+Tv)

123 Bread puns are great. I enjoy them with Everything I Own.

https://youtu.be/-LD-rY6Hxks

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:26 PM (mZUr4)

124 The nice thing for CENTCOM about drone strikes is they can hit some terrorist cousin's goat and they'll call it a success
Posted by: kbdabear at August 27, 2021 09:18 PM (qAR6u

Goat Lives Matter (GLM)!!

Posted by: Latest Pressure Group at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (UVMn8)

125 I can't keep up with the bread puns, I guess I'm just not in the upper crust.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (KCbdU)

Some people just don't have the right kind of wheat to do bread puns!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ Lay back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (hOUT3)

126
Yeah, that doesn't even look like ole' Honest Abe
Posted by: Common Tater

That's his evil twin Dishonest John.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (63Dwl)

127 The reason I think it's a hoax, is he looks way too good. Lincoln was one ugly MFer.
Posted by: Common Tater

Yeah, it looks a bit like Mathew Lillard after getting really high.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (KCbdU)

128 Lincoln looks pretty good in that photo to me.

Posted by: zombie john wilkes booth at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (QU5/8)

129 I wouldn't be surprised if Biden is scheduled to give speeches at the ambassador Hotel three nights in a row next week.

Deep State gonna Deep State.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 27, 2021 09:22 PM (u1eUk)

Would be hard to do, since it ain't there anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (5ieoM)

130 I had that light switch when I was a kid!

Posted by: Toni at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (/c+mq)

131 And I do not know if the Lincoln picture is real, I found it interesting because I have never seen it before.
Posted by: Weirddave at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (GtpEB)

I sincerely doubt it's real. The internet being what it is, it's probably a still from a movie.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (5ieoM)

It's fake but accurate!

Posted by: Dan Rather at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (mZUr4)

132 When standing I usually us my hands to lean on my cane with.

And the crawly thing looks like a ten legged sand sucker. Just don't let it get closed to any, you know, parts.

Posted by: Javems at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (8SSHh)

133 119 > Trust your betters...

Hey, they still have a whole bunch of multimillion dollar cruise missiles to use up.

And the people who make the multimillion dollar cruise missiles want to go on selling them.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (LJ6NL)

That's what we should have been bombing.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (u1eUk)

134 The Picture has been studied and it has been deemed authentic and Sirhan Sirhan did shoot JFK

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (Irn0L)

135 A drone strike on 1 guy? Negative ROI.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (4I/2K)

136 118 And I do not know if the Lincoln picture is real, I found it interesting because I have never seen it before.
Posted by: Weirddave at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (GtpEB)

I sincerely doubt it's real. The internet being what it is, it's probably a still from a movie.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:25 PM (5ieoM)

It's a deep fake from a stag movie. See Rule 34.

Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2021 09:28 PM (Ti+Tv)

137 Does anyone know what this is? Besides horrifying, I mean

---
My ex's lawyer going after my financial records?

You really don't want to know what happened when I told the judge to kiss my ass. For the record the ex never got them.

Posted by: LostInSpace at August 27, 2021 09:28 PM (ESLBo)

138 Now ISIS will use one of the drones Biden gave them.

Posted by: davidt at August 27, 2021 09:28 PM (Owx4w)

139 Exactly. Show actual video with a time stamp, otherwise it's just more bullshit.
Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2021 09:26 PM (Ti+Tv)

Yes, trust your betters, there's no way they could fake that!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ Lay back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at August 27, 2021 09:28 PM (hOUT3)

140 65 Sirhan Sirhan getting out of prison is how we know the Kennedy family no longer has any clout to speak of.

??? 2 of Kennedy's sons spoke in his behalf to spring him. The Left is deluded.

I will be very pissed of they do not deport this fuck
Posted by: Nevergiveup a

He'll be the mayor of Boston in a decade.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 27, 2021 09:28 PM (QFVV9)

141 >>> 85 Sirhan Sirhan getting out of prison is how we know the Kennedy family no longer has any clout to speak of.

It's like the Richard Pryor routine of how he knew Manson would never get out of jail. "As long as they make coffee, that motherfucker's gonna be in jail."
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:15 PM (LJ6NL)

The opposite, actually. The Kennedy family was mostly responsible for his release. Mainly because they know the truth, which is that Sirhan didn't kill anybody, including their dad.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:21 PM (5ieoM)

Shush, you!

Posted by: Bob from NSA at August 27, 2021 09:28 PM (ACi07)

142 contemplates The Art of Pun War

By Pun Tzu?

Posted by: Weirddave at August 27, 2021 09:29 PM (8W4Xr)

143 36- The House Is Rockin
https://youtu.be/-G84P5K-W1c
Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:13 PM

Love that song! "Pride and Joy" is another favorite.

Posted by: Moonbeam at August 27, 2021 09:29 PM (qe5CM)

144 Sirhan Sirhan will probably be made the head of the Secret Service under one of the new "diversity initiatives".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:29 PM (LJ6NL)

145 And I do not know if the Lincoln picture is real, I found it interesting because I have never seen it before.
Posted by: Weirddave

It's actually a dead palestinian kid

Posted by: Miklos from Reuters at August 27, 2021 09:29 PM (QzkSJ)

146 Thank you, Doof.

SRV: Couldn't Stand the Weather

https://youtu.be/nO23B5C_Mcw
Posted by: callsign claymore at August 27, 2021 09:24 PM (l+QuE)

Nice!

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:29 PM (mZUr4)

147 I kind of doubt the Lincoln photo. It is not like they had Iphones. Taking a photo was a pretty involved process. I'll click the link and see what it has to say.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 27, 2021 09:05

I can't get the link to work, could you post it here? Why would Lincoln's eyes be open, he was basically brain dead after he was shot, seems fishy like you say.

Posted by: Farmer at August 27, 2021 09:29 PM (55Qr6)

148 It's a good question. How do you stand when you're just standing around. I sometimes stand hands on hips, but more often than not I'm an arm crosser. How about you?

Generally, Parade Rest, or At Ease if I know the other party well.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (VcFUs) - at August 27, 2021 09:29 PM (VcFUs)

149 BurtTC

It was good to meet you.

So who killed RFK?

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 27, 2021 09:30 PM (u82oZ)

150 The Picture has been studied and it has been deemed authentic and Sirhan Sirhan did shoot JFK
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (Irn0L)

I took a tour once of the boarding house across from Ford's Theatre. It was profoundly sad.

Posted by: Boswell at August 27, 2021 09:30 PM (5iUNf)

151 Rowling was able to get some things past the censors.

--Lavender Brown: "Oh Professor, look! I think I've got an unaspected planet! Oooh, which one's that, Professor?"
--Professor Trelawney: "It is Uranus, my dear."
--Ron Weasley: "Can I have a look at Uranus too, Lavender?"

Fourth year Divination class in the 1994-1995 school year. (Goblet of Fire)

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at August 27, 2021 09:30 PM (hVqGz)

152 By Pun Tzu?
Posted by: Weirddave

Tzu's on First?

Posted by: Blind Monk Miklos of Shaolin at August 27, 2021 09:31 PM (QzkSJ)

153 Doof! Hi wonderful friend.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 27, 2021 09:31 PM (MViHT)

154 Sirhan Sirhan can now be appointed to replace DiFi.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 27, 2021 09:31 PM (4I/2K)

155 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 27, 2021 09:31 PM (arJlL)

156 That picture was in the news a few years ago.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:32 PM (Irn0L)

157 https://rumble.com/v328e5-predatory-sea-slug.html

Posted by: Tim Honks at August 27, 2021 09:32 PM (Xaump)

158 You do realize that I don't make most of these, I just find them, right? Plus I can spell "pockets".

Posted by: Weirddave at August 27, 2021 09:17 PM (GtpEB)

Of course! And no disrespect meant.

Oh, here, I found something that's right up your alley.

https://tinyurl.com/4svvkfdp

Posted by: Robert - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 09:32 PM (1Yy3c)

159 149 BurtTC

It was good to meet you.

So who killed RFK?
Posted by: NaCly Dog

The same person as JFK
https://youtu.be/GgnClrx8N2k

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 27, 2021 09:32 PM (QFVV9)

160 Love that song! "Pride and Joy" is another favorite.
Posted by: Moonbeam at August 27, 2021 09:29 PM (qe5CM)

His most well known song. A great one for sure!

Mary Had a Little Lamb - Live
https://youtu.be/WWU6hpPJG_c

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:32 PM (mZUr4)

161 I always thought Sirhan Sirhan was a stupid name.

Posted by: Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman at August 27, 2021 09:32 PM (Ti+Tv)

162 --Lavender Brown: "Oh Professor, look! I think I've got an unaspected planet! Oooh, which one's that, Professor?"
--Professor Trelawney: "It is Uranus, my dear."
--Ron Weasley: "Can I have a look at Uranus too, Lavender?"

Fourth year Divination class in the 1994-1995 school year. (Goblet of Fire)
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous

He's an astronomy aficionado
https://youtu.be/OSWszdSHkyE

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:32 PM (KCbdU)

163 Ok, that gift for a friend you hope never speaks to you again is hideous and hilarious. Probably made in China and sold in the Spirit stores for Halloween 2021.
It would make a funny house warming gift.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 27, 2021 09:33 PM (NpAcC)

164 BurtTC

It was good to meet you.

So who killed RFK?
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 27, 2021 09:30 PM (u82oZ)

You met me? When??

The CIA killed RFK.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:33 PM (5ieoM)

165 JT

Posted by: that guy who always says JT at August 27, 2021 09:33 PM (QzkSJ)

166 Hello horde,

I need some good humor tonight. It's unbelievably stupid out there.

Posted by: Pete Bog at August 27, 2021 09:33 PM (Jzz++)

167 Send Sirhan to Afghanistan. He's a Christian, they will know what to do with him

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:34 PM (Irn0L)

168 I always thought Sirhan Sirhan was a stupid name.
Posted by: Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman

*diplomatic glare*

Posted by: Boutros Boutros Ghali at August 27, 2021 09:34 PM (QzkSJ)

169 >>> 164 BurtTC

It was good to meet you.

So who killed RFK?
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 27, 2021 09:30 PM (u82oZ)

You met me? When??

The CIA killed RFK.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:33 PM (5ieoM)

Wait... Salty is Bob from NSA???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2021 09:34 PM (ACi07)

170 Doof! Hi wonderful friend.
Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 27, 2021 09:31 PM (MViHT)

Hello to you as well! Always good to see you on the ONT! Did you enjoy to Morondezvous?

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:34 PM (mZUr4)

171 166 Hello horde,

I need some good humor tonight. It's unbelievably stupid out there.
Posted by: Pete Bog at August 27, 2021 09:33 PM (Jzz++)

Go pick up one of those "Christ is risen" switch plates.

Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2021 09:35 PM (Ti+Tv)

172 IMO, the mafia killed both JFK and RFK. They hold grudges and were pissed at both. Wouldn't be too shocked if the CIA though.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 27, 2021 09:35 PM (QFVV9)

173 It was good to meet you.

So who killed RFK?
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 27, 2021 09:30 PM (u82oZ)

You met me? When??

The CIA killed RFK.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:33 PM (5ieoM)

After all it was you and me

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at August 27, 2021 09:35 PM (II3Gr)

174 So you can do a drone strike anytime but nooo...lets do it now so the world can see bow tough Joe is...oh...and while were still trying to get our people out.
Dumb fucks.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 09:35 PM (axyOa)

175 The names of the 13 dead Americans, dead because of Joe Biden, are now public if you look for them

Fuck you, Biden, you fucking fuck.

Posted by: Gref at August 27, 2021 09:35 PM (AMIL/)

176 I've heard but never read from a credible source that JFK wanted to eliminate the CIA.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (/jZjK)

177 166 Hello horde,

I need some good humor tonight. It's unbelievably stupid out there.
Posted by: Pete Bog

Go watch a couple of the critter shorts on Ace's quarantine cafe.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (U2p+3)

178 Jeezum crow. You plebes stand?!

Gross. Get some litter bearers.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (rZA2o)

179 So who killed RFK?

The way he used to step out on his wife, maybe it was Ethel

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (Irn0L)

180 Hello horde,

I need some good humor tonight. It's unbelievably stupid out there.
Posted by: Pete Bog at August 27, 2021 09:33 PM (Jzz++)

Ice cream from a truck does make things better!

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (mZUr4)

181 >>> 174 So you can do a drone strike anytime but nooo...lets do it now so the world can see bow tough Joe is...oh...and while were still trying to get our people out.
Dumb fucks.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 09:35 PM (axyOa)

HAHAHA!!!

Posted by: Jen Pisshockey at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (ACi07)

182 Sirhan Sirhan getting out of prison is how we know the Kennedy family no longer has any clout to speak of.

It's like the Richard Pryor routine of how he knew Manson would never get out of jail. "As long as they make coffee, that motherfucker's gonna be in jail."
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:15
-----
Heck, RFK's kids spoke for his release. Now I think it goes to the Gov for release and SS better hope Newsome wins and not Elder.

Posted by: Farmer at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (55Qr6)

183 Why do some people in some cultures have two of the same name?

What's up with that?

Posted by: Robert Robert - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (1Yy3c)

184 Did you enjoy to Morondezvous?
Posted by: Doof

" Voulez-vous Morondevous avec moi, c'est soir?"

Posted by: Lady Miklos Marmalade-Toussaint at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (QzkSJ)

185 You met me? When??

The CIA killed RFK.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:33 PM (5ieoM)

Wait... Salty is Bob from NSA???
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 27, 2021 09:34 PM (ACi07)

Now I'm a bit scared.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (5ieoM)

186 our friends fat neighbor is have sex, sounds as if somebody is trying to hammer a bolt into a nut and get a brazilian wax at the same time

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 09:37 PM (K3ZCc)

187 You know what's a pretty cool movie? "Midnight Run" is a pretty cool movie.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 27, 2021 09:38 PM (OU+8W)

188 Voulez-vous Morondevous avec moi, c'est soir?"

not necessr yto ask premissin for sex at a mome cnsent is assumed

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 09:38 PM (K3ZCc)

189 Ron Weasley saying fuck suppression.

One Summer I took my 5 year old son to Seattle for a grand day out. Little did I know it was Gay Day everywhere in Seattle. Eventually, after many deflected questions, we landed at a coffee shop not quite atop of Cap Hill. Shortly there after came the lesbian marching band with black tape over their tits. I quietly redirected said youth's attention.

Fast forward 20 years. This is the only thing my, now asshole kid, remembers from that summer. I am honored by this outcome. Suppression always owns now and never the future.

Posted by: LostInSpace at August 27, 2021 09:38 PM (ESLBo)

190 186 our friends fat neighbor is have sex, sounds as if somebody is trying to hammer a bolt into a nut and get a brazilian wax at the same time
Posted by: confederatefifth

That's hot.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 27, 2021 09:38 PM (U2p+3)

191 I've heard but never read from a credible source that JFK wanted to eliminate the CIA.
Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em

I don't think he wanted to eliminate the CIA, but he did talk about reigning in the Fed, which is probably more dangerous.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:38 PM (KCbdU)

192 170 Doof

Best time ever!
I would also so love to meet you, and that crazy-ass Miklos one day. Morons. Nothing like 'em...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 27, 2021 09:39 PM (MViHT)

193 The last photo of Lincoln was of him lying in his casket in NYC, a camera had to be sneaked in

The photo above is disturbing--but fake.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 09:39 PM (dlC0g)

194 our friends fat neighbor is have sex, sounds as if somebody is trying to hammer a bolt into a nut and get a brazilian wax at the same time
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 09:37 PM (K3ZCc)

Kinda sounds like he's doing something wrong.

Posted by: Robert - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 09:39 PM (1Yy3c)

195 What I don't understand is, I'm in a hotel room, nowhere near my home base, using a VPN. How do I have the same hash as when I'm at home?

Is Bob really tracking me??

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:40 PM (5ieoM)

196 That's hot.
Posted by: n

it has to be, as fat as she is

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 09:40 PM (K3ZCc)

197 not necessr yto ask premissin for sex at a mome cnsent is assumed
Posted by: confederatefifth

*removes rabbit fur lined handcuffs from radiator*

*well not just yet*

Posted by: Miklos is relieved but nostalgic a bit at August 27, 2021 09:41 PM (QzkSJ)

198 I wouldn't be surprised if Biden is scheduled to give speeches at the ambassador Hotel three nights in a row next week.

...

Would be hard to do, since it ain't there anymore.

It's not like Joe will know the difference,

Posted by: Methos at August 27, 2021 09:41 PM (kOpft)

199
Kinda sounds like he's doing something wrong.
Posted by: R

that is the bit about the fat chick

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 09:41 PM (K3ZCc)

200 Puns are the lowest form of humor.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

Where does irony fall?

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 27, 2021 09:42 PM (KAi1n)

201 The last photo of Lincoln was of him lying in his casket in NYC, a camera had to be sneaked in

The photo above is disturbing--but fake.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 09:39 PM (dlC0g)

I'm not sure if it's the same one as you are referring to, but I've seen a photo of his casket, open, from some distance away. You can sorta make out his face. Or at least the shape that LOOKS like a dead human face.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:42 PM (5ieoM)

202 > The way he used to step out on his wife, maybe it was Ethel

Nah, I think all the Kennedy wives walked into the marriage with their eyes wide open.

It's like the way European royals used to marry each other for political reasons, bang enough to produce an heir, then spend the rest of their lives with their sidepieces.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:42 PM (LJ6NL)

203 Maybe the Fat Neighbor is trying to do a Yoko song during karaoke?

Posted by: davidt at August 27, 2021 09:42 PM (Owx4w)

204 Show those near and dear to you that you care about them. Whether you've known them all your life, or they've just come into your ken, you never know for how long you'll be blessed with them.

A peaceful night to all the Horde.

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at August 27, 2021 09:43 PM (0udfB)

205 There is a street magician that does the old "sit on this fake couch trick" in the US too...though his specialty seems to be making women's underwear fly off...not kidding https://youtu.be/1lmWZ6ZQ86I

Posted by: Obligatory at August 27, 2021 09:43 PM (DpkTQ)

206 would have thought qdp would be running oh6s out of kabul now

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 09:43 PM (K3ZCc)

207 Would be hard to do, since it ain't there anymore.
--------
It's not like Joe will know the difference,
Posted by: Methos at August 27, 2021 09:41 PM (kOpft)

Ezzackly, cuz he ain't there anymore either.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:43 PM (5ieoM)

208 How would you like to be that poor guy in the story above being accused of shoplifting because of the "suspicious bulge" in his pants that was only his ten inch penis?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 09:43 PM (dlC0g)

209 " Voulez-vous Morondevous avec moi, c'est soir?"
Posted by: Lady Miklos Marmalade-Toussaint at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (QzkSJ

That's Morondezvous.

TM.

Posted by: Emmie at August 27, 2021 09:44 PM (6RgRK)

210 Hey mister, is that the fat neighbor house?

Posted by: Delivery driver with 50 lb sack of flour at 3 AM at August 27, 2021 09:44 PM (QzkSJ)

211 Seems appropriate, Rodney Carrington: Goin Home with a Fat Girl
https://youtu.be/R32Ln7YZ6ig

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:44 PM (KCbdU)

212 I was not in the band, but my buddies from HS started a punk band called "Nip Drivers"

Posted by: Eisenhorn at August 27, 2021 09:44 PM (FA5Pj)

213 > This is the only thing my, now asshole kid, remembers from that summer. I am honored by this outcome.

Men are hardwired for that shit.

I know I found nekkid or semi-nekkid chicks (National Geographic, the lingerie section of the Sears catalog) "interesting" long before I knew what was actually going on with that.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:44 PM (LJ6NL)

214 176 I've heard but never read from a credible source that JFK wanted to eliminate the CIA.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 09:36 PM (/jZjK)

Before or after the Bay of Pigs.

Posted by: Javems at August 27, 2021 09:44 PM (8SSHh)

215 By the way, the bed and room that Lincoln passed away in was so tiny that I doubt that any could have set up a camera that they would need in 1865 for that shot. I was in it - the bed was about a foot and a half from a door way in the back of the house - upstairs. You'd have to climb the stairs with the photo equipment from the day and set up in a space barely big enough for the doctors to be in, much less those large cameras...

Its possible that the doctors requested a death photo, as a coroner from that time might have required it, but
it would have been tough to get. According to the historian we went with on the tour, they actually dug into Lincolns skull using instruments of the time in order to try and remove the bullet and relieve the pressure, unsuccessfully...the blood involved in that procedure would have left the room a mess regardless.

Posted by: Boswell at August 27, 2021 09:44 PM (5iUNf)

216 Trump:
As one nation, America mourns the loss of our brave and brilliant American service members in savage and barbaric terrorist attack in Afghanistan.

These noble American warriors laid down their lives in the line of duty. They sacrificed themselves for the country that they loved, racing against time to rescue their fellow citizens from harm's way. They died as American Heroes, and our nation will honor their memory forever. I want to express my deepest condolences to the families of those we have lost. Today, all Americans grieve alongside you. Together, we also pray that God will heal the other courageous American service members who were wounded in this heinous attack.

In addition, our hearts are with the families of all the innocent civilians who died, and with the many men, women, and children who were terribly injured in this act of evil. This tragedy should never have taken place. It should never have happened, and it would not have happened if I were your President.

/1

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 27, 2021 09:44 PM (ybIRR)

217 runner, distinguished commenter at August 27, 2021 09:17

Well heck, if a UK newspaper confirmed it w/ an expert it must be true. How do you do the googley eyes, LOL.

Posted by: Farmer at August 27, 2021 09:45 PM (55Qr6)

218 Trump:
Over the past few weeks, I know that many Americans have felt profound sorrow and even pain watching the events taking place in Afghanistan, and perhaps none more so than the veterans of that 20-year war.

Many of them answered the call proudly and without hesitation after the terrorist attacks of September 11th, 2001. Every American who served in Afghanistan has made tremendous sacrifices for our country.

On behalf of your fellow citizens, I want you to know that those sacrifices were not made in vain. We know what you did. We know how brave you were, and we thank you. We salute you and we honor you for all time. I hope that every American will join me in continuing to pray for the safe return of all U.S. citizens and soldiers from Afghanistan in the coming days. Thank you, God bless you, and God bless America.
/2

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 27, 2021 09:45 PM (ybIRR)

219 Fast forward 20 years. This is the only thing my, now asshole kid, remembers from that summer.

It is amazing how quickly it went from "the love that dare not utter its name" to WE'RE HERE WE'RE QUEER and WE'RE IN YOUR FACE

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2021 09:45 PM (DpkTQ)

220 208 How would you like to be that poor guy in the story above being accused of shoplifting because of the "suspicious bulge" in his pants that was only his ten inch penis?

_______________

I would totally like to be that guy.

Posted by: MW at August 27, 2021 09:45 PM (u33s0)

221 TM.
Posted by: Emmie

Thanks Mucho?

YW!

Posted by: Ever so polite Miklos at August 27, 2021 09:45 PM (QzkSJ)

222 The one of Lincoln in his casket is shot from a distance from a smuggled camera because photos were forbidden.

The one above looks like it was taken with an iPhone.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 09:46 PM (dlC0g)

223 Glad it's hapunning here

Posted by: Pete Bog at August 27, 2021 09:46 PM (Jzz++)

224 Finally an American weather map that makes sense!

https://tinyurl.com/fs3893w8

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 27, 2021 09:46 PM (L2ZTs)

225 It's like the way European royals used to marry each other for political reasons, bang enough to produce an heir, then spend the rest of their lives with their sidepieces.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:42 PM (LJ6NL)

The story goes, Marie Antoinette's hubby (I forget which one he is) was physically deformed, that it was painful for him, and that's why it took like 7 years for them to have a baby.

But then they say he spent lots of time with his mistress. So which is it? Was he physically incapable, or a typical royal? And I wouldn't be shocked if it turned out his heirs had some little Swede in them.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:46 PM (5ieoM)

226 Yeah, that looks like a very high quality photo of Lincoln for 1865. These are cool though:
https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/phcw/hd_phcw.htm

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 27, 2021 09:46 PM (KAi1n)

227 Jesus Stanton just him a homerun over 470 feet in Oakland

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:47 PM (Irn0L)

228 Sneaking an 8X10 view camera anywhere is an art in itself.

Posted by: klaftern at August 27, 2021 09:47 PM (r4sI4)

229 200 Puns are the lowest form of humor. Posted by: San Franpsycho

Where does irony fall? Posted by: SFGoth
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Below puns. Everybody gets puns while irony requires a certain natural stupidity that only come from an Ivy League education.

Posted by: LostInSpace at August 27, 2021 09:47 PM (ESLBo)

230 Doof

Best time ever!
I would also so love to meet you, and that crazy-ass Miklos one day. Morons. Nothing like 'em...
Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 27, 2021 09:39 PM (MViHT)

Happy for you. A meet up with you and Miklos sounds like a blast! Some day

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:47 PM (mZUr4)

231 And Voit also goes deep and it was not a cheapie either

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:48 PM (Irn0L)

232 > How would you like to be that poor guy in the story above being accused of shoplifting because of the "suspicious bulge" in his pants that was only his ten inch penis?

My wife, Doctor Jill, asks if anyone has that guy's phone number. She's interested in medical curiosities like that.

From a doctor point of view. She's a doctor.

That black woman, Kamelloni or whatever, who's always hanging around here wants it too. I didn't know she was a doctor.

Posted by: Dopey Joe at August 27, 2021 09:48 PM (LJ6NL)

233 @208 How would you like to be that poor guy in the story above being accused of shoplifting because of the "suspicious bulge" in his pants that was only his ten inch penis?

-----------

How does it go?

"Dear Penthouse letters page..."

Posted by: junior at August 27, 2021 09:48 PM (PTw5h)

234 - - How would you like to be that poor guy in the story above being accused of shoplifting because of the "suspicious bulge" in his pants that was only his ten inch penis?

YOU ARE NOT PUTTING THAT THING IN ME !

Posted by: Stacy from marketing (the hot Stacy !) at August 27, 2021 09:48 PM (bTQ72)

235 How would you like to be that poor guy in the story above being accused of shoplifting because of the "suspicious bulge" in his pants that was only his ten inch penis?
Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 09:43 PM (dlC0g)

I know. Only 10. Sad.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:48 PM (5ieoM)

236 Trump's a liar.
He called our brave warriors "suckers and losers"
Jennifer Griffin's sources said so

Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 09:49 PM (dlC0g)

237 How do you do the googley eyes, LOL.
Posted by: Farmer

Like this

https://tinyurl.com/yzzvfbk8

Posted by: Miklos "Marty" Feldman at August 27, 2021 09:49 PM (QzkSJ)

238 How would you like to be that poor guy in the story above being accused of shoplifting because of the "suspicious bulge" in his pants that was only his ten inch penis?

Same guy ordering at a sub shop:

"Foot long?"

"Almost!"

Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2021 09:49 PM (mD/uy)

239 Jesus Stanton just him a homerun over 470 feet in Oakland
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:47 PM (Irn0L)

Giancarlo's brother???

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:49 PM (mZUr4)

240 So Blo Jiden kills some camel jockey somewhere and claims victory. We still have thousands of stranded Americans that need to get to the Airport which has closed all gates. The Taliban is the security and they probably supported the attack at the gates which they provide security ??? I do not have a good feeling with 31 August around the corner.... The bastards are not afraid of Blo Jiden and drone and cruise missile strikes. What do we do when we vacate Kabul Airport and these people are still their? Hell, what if the runway is damaged or blocked by a damaged A/C ???

Beheadings, Torture, Whippings, Hostage situation ??
Re,ember Blo that the Taliban hate America more then anything else right now.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend !!!!

Posted by: james at August 27, 2021 09:49 PM (24+Vp)

241 195 What I don't understand is, I'm in a hotel room, nowhere near my home base, using a VPN. How do I have the same hash as when I'm at home?

Is Bob really tracking me??

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:40 PM (5ieoM)
----------------

If Bob was tracking you you wouldn't know it unless he wanted you to. Do y'all have a history?

And the hash would depend on how you VPN works.
Mine changes every time I boot up.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 09:50 PM (/jZjK)

242
I need some good humor tonight. It's unbelievably stupid out there.
Posted by: Pete Bog at August 27, 2021 09:33 PM (Jzz++)

Did you hear about the cow that quit giving?

Udder failure.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 09:50 PM (axyOa)

243 191 I've heard but never read from a credible source that JFK wanted to eliminate the CIA.
Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em

I don't think he wanted to eliminate the CIA, but he did talk about reigning in the Fed, which is probably more dangerous.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:38 PM

Where was Hillary?

Posted by: Moonbeam at August 27, 2021 09:50 PM (qe5CM)

244 Who does Jesus Stanton play for?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 09:51 PM (dlC0g)

245 I've heard but never read from a credible source that JFK wanted to eliminate the CIA.

Look for the "thousand pieces" speech.

Posted by: t-bird at August 27, 2021 09:51 PM (UMXod)

246 The best part of having a 10-inch penis is finding excuses to work that fact into ordinary conversation all day long.

"Welcome to Subway. Would you like a six-inch or footlong?"
"Footlong of course, just like my extra-long penis!!..."

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 27, 2021 09:51 PM (L2ZTs)

247 Jesus Stanton just him a homerun over 470 feet in Oakland
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:47 PM (Irn0L)

Giancarlo's brother???
Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:49 PM (mZUr4)

LOL, that's the guy. Good hitter but can't run fast in those sandels

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 09:51 PM (Irn0L)

248 Where does irony fall?
Posted by: SFGoth

Once on my toey. Took the starch outa me.

Posted by: Pete Bog at August 27, 2021 09:51 PM (Jzz++)

249 > "Foot long?"

"Yeah. It's not just my feet, either, honey."

Posted by: Dopey Joe at August 27, 2021 09:51 PM (LJ6NL)

250 Beheadings, Torture, Whippings, Hostage situation ??

the hq mome and hobohunt 2010. good times indeed

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 09:51 PM (K3ZCc)

251 Who does Jesus Stanton play for?
Posted by: JoeF

Either the Angels or the Padres. Gotta be.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2021 09:52 PM (mD/uy)

252 Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 27, 2021 09:45 PM (ybIRR)

Thank you for posting President Trump's statement.

Whatever the Vegetable and his handlers write, now about 30 hours late and counting, it will not be a tiny fraction as sincere and a tribute to our fallen countrymen.

Posted by: Gref at August 27, 2021 09:52 PM (AMIL/)

253 Posted by: Ever so polite Miklos at August 27, 2021 09:45 PM (QzkSJ)

TM = trademarked. Mr. Bassman came up with the name. We are particular about how it is spelled and used.

But really, I'm just giving you grief as a buddy.
*punches Miklos in the shoulder*

Posted by: Emmie at August 27, 2021 09:52 PM (6RgRK)

254 227 Jesus Stanton just himt a homerun over 470 feet in Oakland posted by: Nevergiveup

---
Oh my. In Rockies stadium the would be like hitting a home run that landed in Omaha.

Posted by: LostInSpace at August 27, 2021 09:52 PM (ESLBo)

255 Is Bob really tracking me??

The question is, who isn't Bob tracking?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 27, 2021 09:52 PM (SchxB)

256 Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:40 PM (5ieoM)

If Bob was tracking you you wouldn't know it unless he wanted you to. Do y'all have a history?

And the hash would depend on how you VPN works.
Mine changes every time I boot up.
Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 09:50 PM (/jZjK)

I'm beginning to suspect it doesn't. Work, that is.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:53 PM (5ieoM)

257 Jennifer Griffin, in Israel, was a good foreign correspondent.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 09:53 PM (/jZjK)

258 > Where was Hillary?

Still pulling wings off flies in high school study hall.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 09:53 PM (LJ6NL)

259 What liberals think JFK would have done: Make peace with North Vietnam by being "nice"

What JFK would have done: Make peace with North Vietnam by bombing the shit out of them until they were living in the stone age.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2021 09:54 PM (DpkTQ)

260 Seems appropriate, Rodney Carrington: Goin Home with a Fat Girl
https://youtu.be/R32Ln7YZ6ig
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:44 PM (KCbdU)

Love Rodney! Funny coincidence that you brought him up. Also on topic -- he has a bit where he says something like "if you believe that, then I got a 10 inch dick. And let's face it, I don't have a 10 inch dick cuz if I did, I'd have it out showing it to you!"

Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:54 PM (mZUr4)

261 The question is, who isn't Bob tracking?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 27, 2021 09:52 PM (SchxB)

C5's horny fat neighbor?

Posted by: Robert - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 09:54 PM (1Yy3c)

262 I'm beginning to suspect it doesn't. Work, that is.
Posted by: B

if your cnnect to the same server at your vpn every time then nothing changes

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 09:54 PM (K3ZCc)

263 Jennifer Griffin's sources said so
Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 09:49 PM (dlC0g)

The crazy thing is, we have video of Biden doing that but no evidence Trump ever did.

Posted by: Emmie at August 27, 2021 09:54 PM (6RgRK)

264 Is Bob really tracking me??

No don't be silly but...uh...I like your bookmarks.

Posted by: Bob from the NSA at August 27, 2021 09:55 PM (DpkTQ)

265 horny fat neighbor?
Posted by: R

friends neighbor and there is no evidence anybody is horny just having bad sex

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 09:55 PM (K3ZCc)

266 C5's horny fat neighbor?

I'm sure some poor intern has that job.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 27, 2021 09:56 PM (SchxB)

267 Whatever the Vegetable and his handlers write, now about 30 hours late and counting, it will not be a tiny fraction as sincere and a tribute to our fallen countrymen.

Posted by: Gref at August 27, 2021 09:52 PM (AMIL/)
----------------

Saw a pic of them leaving the helo, they were dresses formal black.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 09:56 PM (/jZjK)

268 horny fat neighbor?
Posted by: R

it is not so much sex as a bunga gunga dual suicide

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 09:56 PM (K3ZCc)

269 *punches Miklos in the shoulder*
Posted by: Emmie

Hey-that's my crying shoulder!

https://tinyurl.com/vy9emxjm

Posted by: Sympathetic Empathetic Miklos at August 27, 2021 09:56 PM (QzkSJ)

270 The question is, who isn't Bob tracking?
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries

Anyone who is an actual security threat.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:56 PM (KCbdU)

271 The best part of having a 10-inch penis is finding excuses to work that fact into ordinary conversation all day long.

Damn this water is cold!
No shit! I'm not kidding. It's cold!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 09:56 PM (axyOa)

272 Is Bob really tracking me??
------------
No don't be silly but...uh...I like your bookmarks.
Posted by: Bob from the NSA at August 27, 2021 09:55 PM (DpkTQ)

Now I know you're lying, cuz all my really good bookmarks are on my other machine.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:56 PM (Z9J3j)

273 @202 It's like the way European royals used to marry each other for political reasons, bang enough to produce an heir, then spend the rest of their lives with their sidepieces.

---------

From what I've heard, the fall-out from this in the United Kingdom caused the (in public, at any rate) Victorian "prudishness". The story goes that all of the heirs of the reigning monarch died, leaving the extended royal family with no young heirs. The remaining male members of the extended family were ordered to ditch their mistresses, marry a respectable woman, and produce a non-bastard royal heir.

Victoria was the result. And the enforced "respectability" at the top apparently worked its way into the rest of the country, causing the notorious public Victorian prudishness.

Posted by: junior at August 27, 2021 09:57 PM (PTw5h)

274 Have any otters been seen in your friend's neighborhood?

Posted by: davidt at August 27, 2021 09:57 PM (Owx4w)

275 C5's horny fat neighbor?

I'm sure some poor intern has that job.
Posted by: Blanco Basura

Nadler gave me a reference

Posted by: that intern at August 27, 2021 09:57 PM (QzkSJ)

276 How would you like to be that poor guy in the story above being accused of shoplifting because of the "suspicious bulge" in his pants that was only his ten inch penis?

......

Yeah, I'd really hate it if that story went viral on me.

Image how tough it would be. All the women would point and laugh and say "Hey, there goes the guy with the abnormally large penis!" and all your buddies would be like "Hey Cocky Balboa, get arrested lately?"

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 27, 2021 09:58 PM (YA914)

277 >>>What JFK would have done: Make peace with North Vietnam by bombing the shit out of them until they were living in the stone age.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2021 09:54 PM (DpkTQ)
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Just like he did Cuba.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 09:58 PM (/jZjK)

278 Damn this water is cold!
No shit! I'm not kidding. It's cold!

Yeah, but what really bothers me is the bend in the pipes.

Posted by: Weirddave at August 27, 2021 09:58 PM (8W4Xr)

279 Damn this water is cold!
No shit! I'm not kidding. It's cold!
Posted by: Diogenes

Are they biting?

Posted by: Miklos on the bridge with multi-hook lures at August 27, 2021 09:59 PM (QzkSJ)

280 Well, well. The new head chaplain at Harvard is - an atheist.

Why am I not surprised?

Posted by: donna&&&&&v at August 27, 2021 09:59 PM (HabA/)

281 Have any otters been seen in your friend's neighborhood?
Posted by: davidt

A neighborhood like no otter

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 27, 2021 09:59 PM (KCbdU)

282 Damn this water is cold!

Deep too

Posted by: Pete Bog at August 27, 2021 09:59 PM (Jzz++)

283 Image how tough it would be. All the women would point and laugh and say "Hey, there goes the guy with the abnormally large penis!" and all your buddies would be like "Hey Cocky Balboa, get arrested lately?"
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 27, 2021 09:58 PM (YA914)

Poor guy. All those women he'll be banging. He'll never know if any of them really like his personality.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:59 PM (Z9J3j)

284 Louis XVI spent a lot of time with his clocks. Dunno how accurate the movie "Marie Antoinette" is, but Merle Oberon sure is a tasty piece of cake to my eyes. BTW, both Marie and Catherine the Great were Osterreichers - the central position in European politics at the time. CtG got the better deal even if the accommodations weren't as nice.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 27, 2021 09:59 PM (KAi1n)

285 The one of Lincoln in his casket is shot from a distance from a smuggled camera because photos were forbidden.

The one above looks like it was taken with an iPhone.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 09:46 PM (dlC0g)

no way, back then they had flop phones at best.

kidding aside, that doesn't look like Lincoln. I know people look different after they a have passed, but if you focus in on certain aspects, like the nose for one, it doesn't work.

Either way, I don't get the point. I assume it is about money. But today few care about history. Fifty years ago the last photo of Lincoln would likely be valuable.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:00 PM (/i32d)

286 Thought Victoria didn't speak English.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 10:00 PM (/jZjK)

287 Nadler gave me a reference

When the time comes, call this number first: 1-800-273-8255

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 27, 2021 10:00 PM (SchxB)

288 Re: hands

I'm a Florida man now, so I drag my knuckles on the ground. When in Rome, ya know?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 27, 2021 10:00 PM (OssQ4)

289 The best part of having a ten inch penis is working that fact into conversation...

LOL. You wouldn't have to say anything. Everyone would SEE it. How do you hide something like that?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 10:00 PM (dlC0g)

290 https://tinyurl.com/vy9emxjm
Posted by: Sympathetic Empathetic Miklos at August 27, 2021 09:56 PM (QzkSJ)

That was fun! New song to me.

Posted by: Emmie at August 27, 2021 10:00 PM (6RgRK)

291 Yeah, but what really bothers me is the bend in the pipes.
Posted by: Weirddave at August 27, 2021 09:58 PM (8W4Xr)

You should see a doctor. It's not supposed to do that.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 10:00 PM (Z9J3j)

292 Heh. There are now memes going around of "Joe Tzu", where his face has replaced Sun Tzu's on that statue on the black background.

"Retreat swiftly without taking questions."

Posted by: t-bird at August 27, 2021 10:01 PM (3fR4G)

293 Yeah, but what really bothers me is the bend in the pipes.
Posted by: Weirddave

Half inch diameter will not do.

Posted by: Miklos, plumbing the depths at August 27, 2021 10:01 PM (QzkSJ)

294 that strange creature is Yog-Sothoth get, or Wilbur Whately's twin brother, isn't it?

I mean, it has the crinkly white hair like Lavinia, right?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2021 10:02 PM (HG00O)

295 Either way, I don't get the point. I assume it is about money. But today few care about history. Fifty years ago the last photo of Lincoln would likely be valuable.
Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:00 PM (/i32d)

There was a big argument a few years ago, about the supposed FIRST photo of Lincoln. I don't think it was him. Lots of people put a lot of effort into trying to convince people it was.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 10:02 PM (Z9J3j)

296 I saw a yt commenter commenting on a reaction to the movie Gangs of New York. He said the New York Draft Riots were a real event. They happened in 1969, only a few years after the end of the Civil War. He said former Union Soldiers from that war played a part in putting them down.

Sadly, I respected the guy for knowing more about the Draft Riots than most people.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:02 PM (/i32d)

297 The best part of having a ten inch penis is working that fact into conversation...

"So, how long are you in for?"

Posted by: Overheard at the County Lockup at August 27, 2021 10:02 PM (QzkSJ)

298 Yes, the Paolo feels sorry for the man with the small 10 inch penis.

Posted by: The Paolo at August 27, 2021 10:03 PM (Owx4w)

299 Whoa

Katy Segal was only 33 when she started on Married With Children' in 1987

that whig mage her look way older

Posted by: Stacy from marketing (the hot Stacy !) at August 27, 2021 10:03 PM (bTQ72)

300 > The remaining male members of the extended family were ordered to ditch their mistresses, marry a respectable woman, and produce a non-bastard royal heir.

This much, at least, is true.

She was the only daughter of George III's fourth son. The three older ones failed to produce legitimate heirs.

There was also a fourth son who became King of Hanover (the rules of succession in Hanover did not allow female monarchs).

So George III, at least, did not fail to produce heirs. His sons fell down on the job rather badly.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:03 PM (LJ6NL)

301 How do you hide something like that?

***types "Your Mom" comment.....deletes***

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 27, 2021 10:03 PM (YA914)

302 On You Tube there is a clip of an old man on the show What's My Line? from the early '50's who WITNESSED Lincoln's assassination as a small child....

Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 10:03 PM (dlC0g)

303 Bolton's a asshole, and he will find out, when the left is done with him, he will have NO friends and he will die a lonely old man

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 10:03 PM (Irn0L)

304 You know the worst part about a 10in penis?

Trying to sit down when Reggie is done with you.

Posted by: Barack Obama at August 27, 2021 10:04 PM (DpkTQ)

305 There was a big argument a few years ago, about the supposed FIRST photo of Lincoln. I don't think it was him. Lots of people put a lot of effort into trying to convince people it was.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 10:02 PM (Z9J3j)

Old West figures have had that as thing too. THere are many Old West figures like Doc Holliday that have had disputed photos for many decades.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:04 PM (/i32d)

306 https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/phcw/hd_phcw.htm

Yeah, these took time to set up - note the extended and grotesque bloating of the dead bodies photographed in Pennsylvania, a result of time involved to setup and the heat. All are staged and taken at the usual distance that a standard daguerreotype camera would have needed - regardless of the development process (silver or tin type).

I rather doubt that the supposed photograph of Lincoln in that very tiny bedroom strewn with blood and mess, and also occupied by doctors and WH staff would have allowed for such a photo - but you just don't know...

Posted by: Boswell at August 27, 2021 10:04 PM (5iUNf)

307 Katy Segal was only 33 when she started on Married With Children' in 1987

Oh that's right, there was a female lead on that show in addition to Christina Applegate...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2021 10:05 PM (DpkTQ)

308 'eya morons; another Friday come and gone.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 27, 2021 10:05 PM (+WWsf)

309 Wow that's a Lotta content. Stocking up for a hurricane or something? The girl shooting two guns is the best video I've seen all week. Love how she tosses the empty one all nonchalant like.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 27, 2021 10:05 PM (OssQ4)

310 George III had 15 (!) legitimate children.

Not bad for a crazy dude. Maybe he was crazy in the sack, too.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:05 PM (LJ6NL)

311 Heh. There are now memes going around of "Joe Tzu", where his face has replaced Sun Tzu's on that statue on the black background.

"Retreat swiftly without taking questions."
Posted by: t-bird

Joe Tzu Isuzu

Posted by: Miklos, trying to sell you something at August 27, 2021 10:06 PM (QzkSJ)

312 18-1, don't forget Amanda Bearse. :-)
Her character, Marcy, was the *original* Karen.

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 27, 2021 10:06 PM (L2ZTs)

313 @307: "... in addition to Christina Applegate..."

She was only sixteen years old in the first season.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 27, 2021 10:07 PM (+WWsf)

314 > that strange creature is Yog-Sothoth get, or Wilbur Whately's twin brother, isn't it?

Lena Dunham's minge has become self-aware and mobile.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:07 PM (LJ6NL)

315 we are about as far away from the start of WW2 as the start of WW2 from the end of the US Civil war.

80 years one way vs. 87 years the other

Posted by: Stacy from marketing (the hot Stacy !) at August 27, 2021 10:07 PM (bTQ72)

316 I'm watching the USA/Japanese movie "Virus" which you can see at the Internet Archive in its full length (about 2.5 hours).

I'm about 35 minutes in and it's amazing how much this mirrors the real world. "But they've had the vaccine! How is this happening?"

Since movie predict the real world, I'm thinking "Night of the Living Dead" is next.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 27, 2021 10:07 PM (OU+8W)

317 @286 Thought Victoria didn't speak English.

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Victoria was the reigning monarch (her husband was the consort), which would have required her to be born into the royal line. Not every British monarch spoke English all that well. George I and II hadn't particularly cared about it (they'd been focused on their German holdings instead). But that ended with the king we know best here in the US, George III. Victoria was a couple of generations later.

Posted by: junior at August 27, 2021 10:08 PM (PTw5h)

318 by: SFGoth at August 27, 2021 09:59 PM (KAi1n)

285 The one of Lincoln in his casket is shot from a distance from a smuggled camera because photos were forbidden.

The one above looks like it was taken with an iPhone.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 09:46 PM (dlC0g)

no way, back then they had flop phones at best.

They did a shitty job recording too. That copy of the Gettysburg address really sucks.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 10:08 PM (axyOa)

319 How do you hide something like that?

You don't. Show one person - guy or gal, and word will get around - fast.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2021 10:09 PM (mD/uy)

320 George III had 15 (!) legitimate children.

Not bad for a crazy dude. Maybe he was crazy in the sack, too.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Wot Wot

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable, Hey Hey at August 27, 2021 10:09 PM (KCbdU)

321 @307: "... in addition to Christina Applegate..."

She was only sixteen years old in the first season.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 27, 2021 10:07 PM (+WWsf)

Poor thing chopped off her tits because she had breast cancer and now she has multiple sclerosis.

I wanted to bang her so badly when I was a kid.

Posted by: Robert - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 10:10 PM (1Yy3c)

322 I've always considered myself a centrist.
I don't recommend it, as you will be scorned by both sides and no one will trust you.
I am not kidding. Don't be like me.
Be firmly one thing or the other.

Posted by: casual observer 1167 at August 27, 2021 10:10 PM (aAP3z)

323 Would be hard to do, since it ain't there anymore.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 27, 2021 09:27 PM (5ieoM)
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neither is Joe.

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at August 27, 2021 10:10 PM (ATMED)

324 You couldn't "smuggle a camera" in 1865.
That'd be like trying to smuggle a working fax machine.

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 27, 2021 10:10 PM (L2ZTs)

325 Amazing thing about Christina Applegate, obviously she's beautiful...but she is a good comedic actress as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2021 10:10 PM (DpkTQ)

326 >>> 280 Well, well. The new head chaplain at Harvard is - an atheist.

Why am I not surprised?
Posted by: donna&&&&&v at August 27, 2021 09:59 PM (HabA/)

Is that wrong?

Posted by: Pope Frankie Goes to Hollywood at August 27, 2021 10:11 PM (ACi07)

327 Amazing thing about Christina Applegate, obviously she's beautiful...but she is a good comedic actress as well.
Posted by: 18-1

no

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 10:11 PM (K3ZCc)

328 don't forget Amanda Bearse. :-)
Her character, Marcy, was the *original* Karen.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Off set too - Ed O'Neill and her had a running feud. He didn't suffer her Karenness at all.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2021 10:11 PM (mD/uy)

329 we are about as far away from the start of WW2 as the start of WW2 from the end of the US Civil war.

80 years one way vs. 87 years the other

Posted by: Stacy from marketing (the hot Stacy !) at August 27, 2021 10:07 PM (bTQ72)

yeah, that is something worth noting. Today the Civil War has fallen as an important subject as fast as anything I can think of. But it wasn't long ago when Americans thought of it as the most important event in the history and for many generations, the war loomed large.

In some ways it is good people are over it. But when they want to delete history, that is never a good thing.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:12 PM (/i32d)

330 > She was only sixteen years old in the first season.

Legal in my state. Legal in more states than not, I think.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:12 PM (LJ6NL)

331 Looking at that photo of Lincoln again...you know how I know it's fake?

No top hat.

Posted by: Robert - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 10:12 PM (1Yy3c)

332 That was fun! New song to me.
Posted by: Emmie at August 27, 2021 10:00 PM (6RgRK

Oh dear, where are my manners?

Thank you, Miklos!

Posted by: Emmie at August 27, 2021 10:12 PM (6RgRK)

333 Off set too - Ed O'Neill and her had a running feud. He didn't suffer her Karenness at all.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2021 10:11 PM (mD/uy)

I wonder if Ed O'Neill is Moron here and comments. By the way i played High School Football also

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 10:13 PM (Irn0L)

334 80 years one way vs. 87 years the other

Posted by: Stacy from marketing (the hot Stacy !) at August 27, 2021 10:07 PM (bTQ72)

The last of the Civil War Vets died in the early 50's, when some were over 100 years old. I think the last one died in 1956 or something. Something to think about.

But we generally think of the Civil War era of veterans ending just before WW I. What a story they could have told, huh?

Posted by: Boswell at August 27, 2021 10:13 PM (5iUNf)

335 There are a whole bunch of horror/action movies based on the notion of one crazy medical researcher injecting people with some miracle drug that they didn't test enough.

I was watching a medical researcher do a movie review of 28 Days Later from 2018 and his comment, "They'd never let you give out a drug to more then a small control group that hadn't been tested for years before that!"

Posted by: 18-1 at August 27, 2021 10:13 PM (DpkTQ)

336 Think about the first guy to buy a fax machine. He had to wait for the next guy and hope he sent something.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:13 PM (/i32d)

337 On You Tube there is a clip of an old man on the show What's My Line? from the early '50's who WITNESSED Lincoln's assassination as a small child....
Posted by: JoeF.

Did they ask what he thought about the play?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 27, 2021 10:13 PM (OssQ4)

338 331 Looking at that photo of Lincoln again...you know how I know it's fake?

No top hat.
Posted by: Robert - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 10:12 PM (1Yy3c)

It's just a picture of some Amish guy that had gotten kicked in the head by a horse. He was still alive until they took the photo and captured his soul.

Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2021 10:14 PM (Ti+Tv)

339 Think about the first guy to buy a fax machine. He had to wait for the next guy and hope he sent something.
Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:13 PM (/i32d)

Watson! Fax me some paper. I am fresh out!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 27, 2021 10:14 PM (4l77G)

340 Its possible that the doctors requested a death photo, as a coroner from that time might have required it, but
it would have been tough to get. According to the historian we went with on the tour, they actually dug into Lincolns skull using instruments of the time in order to try and remove the bullet and relieve the pressure, unsuccessfully...the blood involved in that procedure would have left the room a mess regardless.
Posted by: Boswell at August 27, 2021 09:44

IIRC the original doc looking at Lincoln stuck his finger into the bullet hole to locate the bullet. Abe didn't have a chance w/ that wound and the care at the time.

Posted by: Farmer at August 27, 2021 10:15 PM (55Qr6)

341 don't forget Amanda Bearse. :-)
Her character, Marcy, was the *original* Karen.
Posted by: qdpsteve

Off set too - Ed O'Neill and her had a running feud. He didn't suffer her Karenness at all.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2021 10:11 PM (mD/uy)

Skip to 1:40.

https://youtu.be/ZkjNyoPRBsc

For the record, the interview that clip is taken from is outstanding. Three hours and worth every minute.

Posted by: Robert - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 10:15 PM (1Yy3c)

342 > The last of the Civil War Vets died in the early 50's, when some were over 100 years old.

The last Civil War widow died just a few years ago.

Horny old bastard married her when he was like 90 and she was like 15 or something like that.

Why? Love of course. The fact that they were in a dirt poor rural area and he had a pension had nothing to do with it. I'm sure.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:15 PM (LJ6NL)

343 Thank you, Miklos!
Posted by: Emmie

*bows deeply*

*attempts to stand back up*

*it's OK, I can drink like this, I'm fine*

Posted by: Miklos, avec grand plaisir at August 27, 2021 10:16 PM (QzkSJ)

344 > No top hat.

Lincoln wore that hat all the time. Including while having sex.

It is known.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:16 PM (LJ6NL)

345 I have trouble believing the Lincoln photo.

In comparable pics, his nose is quite different, as well as his brows.

Fun fact(oid): Lincoln and Robert E. Lee were third (or fourth) cousins.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 27, 2021 10:16 PM (vuisn)

346 The thing that was done in those days, around the death of Lincoln, was death masks.
A plaster cast of the head and face was made after death, later it would be made in to a bronze.
Many examples abound.

Posted by: casual observer 1167 at August 27, 2021 10:17 PM (aAP3z)

347 Watching Godfather 2 tonight. Bautista is bugging out of Havana.

Michael knows it was Fredo.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 10:17 PM (VxC1e)

348 Since movie predict the real world, I'm thinking "Night of the Living Dead" is next.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 27, 2021 10:07 PM (OU+8W)

I worked at the mine where they filmed part of the movie.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 27, 2021 10:17 PM (AVDhF)

349 from the early '50's who WITNESSED Lincoln's assassination as a small child....

President John Tyler (b. 1790, President in the 1840's) still has one grandson alive.

Posted by: t-bird at August 27, 2021 10:18 PM (KfC1e)

350 Also a great way to become a pun master: Get Cat Quest II. Pooky and Pookette have bonded over the terrible puns (in almost every part of dialogue!), and forcing me to listen to them.

Posted by: pookysgirl, fur real this time at August 27, 2021 10:18 PM (XKZwp)

351 https://tinyurl.com/yzzvfbk8
Posted by: Miklos "Marty" Feldman at August 27, 2021 09:49

https://tinyurl.com/yzzvfbk8 TY Marty.

Posted by: Farmer at August 27, 2021 10:18 PM (55Qr6)

352 Lincoln wore that hat all the time. Including while having sex.

It is known.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:16 PM (LJ6NL)

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Poor Mary Todd had to wear yoga pants.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 10:18 PM (VxC1e)

353 Think about the first guy to buy a fax machine. He had to wait for the next guy and hope he sent something.
Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:13 PM (/i32d)

I can imagine God got tired of listening to Adam fapping all day and night and finally told him to take a nap. One rib later and Voila, problem solved. Sucks to be first sometimes.

Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2021 10:18 PM (Ti+Tv)

354 Civil War the war of white privilege.
It was fought for the ownership of
the slaves.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 10:19 PM (/jZjK)

355 >>347 Watching Godfather 2 tonight. Bautista is bugging out of Havana.

Michael knows it was Fredo.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 10:17 PM (VxC1e)

Dammit, don't spoil it!

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 27, 2021 10:19 PM (vuisn)

356 > It was fought for the ownership of
the slaves.

I've got at least two ancestors who were KIA on the Union side. Jesse Jackson and his ilk can suck their "reparations" right out of my wang.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:20 PM (LJ6NL)

357 353 Think about the first guy to buy a fax machine. He had to wait for the next guy and hope he sent something.
Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:13 PM (/i32d)
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When the price came down to $450.00
I bought one for the office.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 10:21 PM (/jZjK)

358 292 Heh. There are now memes going around of "Joe Tzu", where his face has replaced Sun Tzu's on that statue on the black background.

"Retreat swiftly without taking questions."

Posted by: t-bird at August 27, 2021 10:01 PM (3fR4G)

The "Joe gets retribution!" drone-strike killing of one ISIS guy, announced tonight, is a little too cute for me. How long have we known this guy was ISIS? How long have we been tracking him? If we had been tracking him before yesterday, and they are convinced he's ISIS, why didn't we kill him before now? Tomorrow at Dover AFB, Joe will brag he's the big, bad, revenge guy, after the caskets are carried out of the plane. It's too convenient to get past my BS filter.

Posted by: Gref at August 27, 2021 10:21 PM (AMIL/)

359 What is the green thing??

Posted by: pj at August 27, 2021 10:22 PM (G1dq6)

360 310 George III had 15 (!) legitimate children.

Not bad for a crazy dude. Maybe he was crazy in the sack, too.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:05 PM

Maria Theresa of Hapsburg had 16 but most of them did not live to adulthood, making Marie Antoinette the most famous.

Posted by: Moonbeam at August 27, 2021 10:22 PM (qe5CM)

361 347 Watching Godfather 2 tonight. Bautista is bugging out of Havana.

Michael knows it was Fredo.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 10:17 PM (VxC1e)

I think Biden actually played that asshole Senator from Nevada.

Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2021 10:22 PM (Ti+Tv)

362 > Think about the first guy to buy a fax machine. He had to wait for the next guy and hope he sent something.

Isaac Newton was a man ahead of his time. He was always saying things like "Let's get drunk and fax our penises to Paris".

(or something like that... forget where I read that joke).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:22 PM (LJ6NL)

363 Fun fact(oid): Lincoln and Robert E. Lee were third (or fourth) cousins.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 27, 2021 10:16 PM (vuisn)

Lincoln and Jefferson Davis were both born in Kentucky, within 60 or so miles of each other.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:22 PM (/i32d)

364 335 There are a whole bunch of horror/action movies based on the notion of one crazy medical researcher injecting people with some miracle drug that they didn't test enough.

You're just jealous. Admit it, please. Mine worked!

Posted by: Herbert West at August 27, 2021 10:23 PM (OU+8W)

365 https://youtu.be/ZkjNyoPRBsc

For the record, the interview that clip is taken from is outstanding. Three hours and worth every minute.
Posted by: Robert - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 10:15 PM (1Yy3c)

Ok watched it. Your right. That was great

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 27, 2021 10:23 PM (Irn0L)

366 > I think Biden actually played that asshole Senator from Nevada.

That character was based on Harry Reid, I'm about 99% sure.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:23 PM (LJ6NL)

367 An old relative had saved a rose from the Lincoln funeral procession. It quickly turned black and was hidden away.
When one of my aunts eventually found it and unwrapped it, it turned to dust.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 27, 2021 10:23 PM (vuisn)

368 Maria Theresa of Hapsburg had 16 but most of them did not live to adulthood, making Marie Antoinette the most famous.
Posted by: Moonbeam at August 27, 2021 10:22 PM (qe5CM)

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She was also the baby of the brood.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 10:23 PM (VxC1e)

369 Currently on INSP, the very first Gunsmoke episode. Kitty has no beauty mark. The acting is a bit stiff.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 27, 2021 10:23 PM (l0Lgi)

370 But that ended with the king we know best here in the US, George III. Victoria was a couple of generations later.
Posted by: junior at August 27, 2021 10:08 PM (PTw5h)

Weird fact - George the Thirds royal family actually brought the celebration of Christmas and the Christmas Tree to the UK from Germany...it became such a tradition by the time of the young princess Victoria, that people ceased to forget a time when it wasn't celebrated in the way it was.

No one had a harder time with that than Mark Twain, who absolutely detested Charles Dickens like no other...he complained that Dickens found Christmas a tradition not as religious event but as a celebration of his fealty to the Monarchy of the time. Twain was the ultimate misanthrope...

Posted by: Boswell at August 27, 2021 10:24 PM (5iUNf)

371 Tomorrow at Dover AFB, Joe will brag he's the big, bad, revenge guy, after the caskets are carried out of the plane. It's too convenient to get past my BS filter.
Posted by: Gref at August 27, 2021 10:21 PM (AMIL/)

This.
Complete BS.
Some poor raghead got wacked so Joe can look manly.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 10:24 PM (axyOa)

372 335 There are a whole bunch of horror/action movies based on the notion of one crazy medical researcher injecting people with some miracle drug that they didn't test enough.

Many of them featured on MST 3000 and Rifftrax.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 27, 2021 10:24 PM (4l77G)

373 366 > I think Biden actually played that asshole Senator from Nevada.

That character was based on Harry Reid, I'm about 99% sure.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:23 PM (LJ6NL)

I can believe it. I wonder if Coppola ever said anything about that.

Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2021 10:24 PM (Ti+Tv)

374 Senator Geary.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 10:25 PM (VxC1e)

375 I don't think that's Lincoln...

Just dropped in to say "hi."
Hi!

(Bye!)

Posted by: Flyover at August 27, 2021 10:25 PM (Rbu5d)

376 Love all of you. Good night.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 27, 2021 10:26 PM (OU+8W)

377 > .he complained that Dickens found Christmas a tradition not as religious event but as a celebration of his fealty to the Monarchy of the time.

Dickens was quite the lickspittle when it came to the Hanovers.

He wrote a pretty good book on the Kings of England, where he explained in detail why every one of them was a murdering bastard. Then when he got to up to the Hanovers.... "Oops! Out of space!"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:26 PM (LJ6NL)

378 when they were going to do the six degrees of separatin movie, it was originally set in tennessee, but they had to move it somewhere else since nobody would believe anybody in tennessee was more than three degrees

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 10:27 PM (K3ZCc)

379 I don't think it looks like Lincoln. Maybe we're being thrown off by the common beard style of the day.

Posted by: t-bird at August 27, 2021 10:27 PM (8eSmR)

380 Currently on INSP, the very first Gunsmoke episode. Kitty has no beauty mark. The acting is a bit stiff.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 27, 2021 10:23 PM (l0Lgi)

Mrs D is watching old Murder She Wrote shows. Linda Hamilton is on the current episode.
Hmmmmm....
I'll be back.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 10:28 PM (axyOa)

381 Good night, all. I'm going to go have a beverage, read some littachoor, and then turn in early.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:28 PM (LJ6NL)

382 Love all of you. Good night.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 27, 2021 10:26 PM (OU+8W)

'Night BC. I'm out too.

'Night Horde.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 27, 2021 10:28 PM (4l77G)

383 As kings go, George III wasn't particularly bad. Maybe a bit too distant from the affairs of his kingdom, but never approaching Louis XVI levels of cluelessness. He just had the misfortune of being king at a time when one of the major colonies decided it didn't want to have kings no more.

Posted by: CppThis at August 27, 2021 10:28 PM (UewuT)

384 374 Senator Geary.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 10:25 PM (VxC1e)

G. D. Spradlin did a great job playing that creep, but back then most of us didn't realize all Senators end up just like that. Once bought, they stay that way.

Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2021 10:29 PM (Ti+Tv)

385 Twain lost all his money investing in that pen supposed to write under whipped cream.

Posted by: klaftern at August 27, 2021 10:30 PM (r4sI4)

386 Lincoln kept Bit O' Honeys in his tophat. And he would not share them with anyone. Because he was selfish.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 27, 2021 10:30 PM (QU5/8)

387 Tomorrow at Dover AFB, Joe will brag he's the big, bad, revenge guy

Go find the people responsible, Joe! I predict you'll find him while shaving tomorrow.

Posted by: t-bird at August 27, 2021 10:31 PM (fFtVH)

388 When Ty Woods' body was brought back from Benghazi to Dover, biden was there w obama. Biden said something horribly inappropriate to Ty Woods' Dad, along the lines of "your son had big balls". Later, ppl speculated biden had seen them fighting in Benghazi in real time, but failed to send help. I really hope he does not go to Dover for the 13, bc saying something disrespectful would be another example of how atrocious he is.

Posted by: EveR at August 27, 2021 10:32 PM (ZZDMQ)

389 I think its hilarious that when the Stuart dynasty died out with Anne, England had to offer the monarchy to some Germanic schlub in Hanover who couldn't even speaka da English.

Diplomatic marriages: they can bite you in the ass generations from now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 10:32 PM (VxC1e)

390 371- This.
Complete BS.
Some poor raghead got wacked so Joe can look manly.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 10:24 PM

Didn't Obama do something similar a couple of times? Or was that Clinton? Or both? I remember Clinton dropping bombs to distract from the Monica news.

Posted by: Moonbeam at August 27, 2021 10:33 PM (qe5CM)

391 Then when he got to up to the Hanovers.... "Oops! Out of space!"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:26 PM (LJ6NL)

Twain made the same point - Dickens was smoocher of the House of Hanover and his writings were sniveling sop to their monarchy. You can't write about Oliver Twist without mentioning the ruling class that made him an orphan and a pauper. Twain was the ultimate backwoods pioneer promoter - he found nothing smart, interesting or stimulating about the British culture under Charles the Thirds family...

Posted by: Boswell at August 27, 2021 10:33 PM (5iUNf)

392
Resign Joe.

Posted by: America at August 27, 2021 10:34 PM (jYQlA)

393 Civil War the war of white privilege.
It was fought for the ownership of
the slaves.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 10:19 PM (/jZjK)

the second part of that has some truth to it. I know many disagree, but slavery was the key issue. If you remove slavery, there would not have been a war. But calling it the war of White Privilege to me is way too modernist and ahistorical.

The Union states that stayed loyal to the USA were 98.8 percent white. They didn't fight to change that. They were pissed of at the Confederates for putting the union itself at risk. For sure many didn't like slavery, many were fired up about it. But that is not what caused the war. There were two sides, and they did not have the same reasons for fighting. Even within those sides there were many reasons.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:35 PM (/i32d)

394 For the record, the interview that clip is taken from is outstanding. Three hours and worth every minute.
Posted by: Robert

Great stuff - I've seen it before but always good to revisit it.

And Ed was right - about the tuxes, and about 'the button'.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2021 10:35 PM (mD/uy)

395 Lincoln kept Bit O' Honeys in his tophat. And he would not share them with anyone. Because he was selfish.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 27, 2021 10:30 PM (QU5/

The gummy bears didnt do wel! In those DC summers.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 27, 2021 10:35 PM (axyOa)

396 Plus, Rowling is constantly making up stuff that was obviously not in the books (Hermione was black, Dumbledore was gay, Hagrid was a tranny, etc.)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 27, 2021 09:07 PM (z4k8L)

What do you expect from a woke scrunt?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 27, 2021 10:36 PM (uwrB8)

397 in fairness, if the north was interested in slavery they needed to figure out how to buy the slave owners out.

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 10:37 PM (K3ZCc)

398 "Welcome to Subway. Would you like a six-inch or footlong?"
"Footlong of course, just like my extra-long penis!!..."
Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 27, 2021 09:51

LOL, that brings back a memory. In the early 80s we worked in the nicest restaurant in our rural area. Nancy, a waitress a few yrs older became a friend.

Well one night she went to this place that had male stirppers. The next night she worked and described the prime rib choices to customers as 8 inches and 10 inches, instead of ounces. She was a hoot.

Posted by: Farmer at August 27, 2021 10:37 PM (55Qr6)

399 He just had the misfortune of being king at a time when one of the major colonies decided it didn't want to have kings no more.
Posted by: CppThis

Had a Classics professor who believed that if George III had allowed the colonies to elect MPs and given leading members of colonial society titles of nobility, the British Empire would still be around and as strong as ever.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable, Hey Hey at August 27, 2021 10:37 PM (KCbdU)

400 Civil War the war of white privilege.
It was fought for the ownership of
the slaves.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 10:19 PM (/jZjK)

The CSA states already had that. Also, Union states and border states like Kentucky, MO, MD, DE, and DC had it. The CSA went off because they didn't trust Lincoln. That is what fired up a lot of influential people. The average soldier, not so much. Really a huge swath of people came to dislike each other so much that war was possible. In the end, it was inevitable.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:38 PM (/i32d)

401 362 > Think about the first guy to buy a fax machine. He had to wait for the next guy and hope he sent something.

Isaac Newton was a man ahead of his time. He was always saying things like "Let's get drunk and fax our penises to Paris".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:22 PM

These completely cracked me up!!

Posted by: Moonbeam at August 27, 2021 10:38 PM (qe5CM)

402 CAN YOU *FUCKING* FEEL IT?!?!
Posted by: Robert, amped up - 7 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 27, 2021 09:11 PM (1Yy3c)

You want an honest answer to that?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 27, 2021 10:39 PM (uwrB8)

403 Well, Pixy's getting off work in a couple of hours and the morning edition of the DM should be out.
bbl

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 10:40 PM (/jZjK)

404 Really a huge swath of people came to dislike each other so much that war was possible. In the end, it was inevitable.

Why does that sound familiar?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 27, 2021 10:40 PM (SchxB)

405 Fanucci's about to get it.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 10:40 PM (VxC1e)

406 Britain pulls the plug on Kabul airlift:
UK will start getting soldiers out of airport as Boris tells of his 'great regret' at leaving 150 Brits and 1,100 Afghans behind despite fears they'll become Taliban hostages
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We used to call that - cut and run.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 10:41 PM (/jZjK)

407 He deserves death by bunga bunga
Posted by: Doof at August 27, 2021 09:14 PM (mZUr4)

If he picks up where he left off, I will cut him some slack.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 27, 2021 10:42 PM (uwrB8)

408 How Hunter Biden watches Documentaries, except he'd have hookers, too.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2021 10:42 PM (ynpvh)

409 the 1860 census had Georgia at 10% black, I not sure what AL black % was but not much more than GA

people today frame the thinking on todays framework

Posted by: Stacy from marketing (the hot Stacy !) at August 27, 2021 10:43 PM (bTQ72)

410 @383 As kings go, George III wasn't particularly bad. Maybe a bit too distant from the affairs of his kingdom,

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For George III, it was the exact opposite. His father and grandfather had primarily focused on Hanover, and ignored the British Isles. George III took the throne, and decided to focus on the English-speaking holdings instead. Parliament had been used to more or less doing its own thing, and unsurprisingly wasn't too happy when the ruler of the United Kingdom started trying to exercise some royal authority. This caused some friction.

It also resulted in cleaning up some pretty noteworthy loopholes in the laws as the king exploited those loopholes, and Parliament was forced to shut them down in order to block his moves.

George III also happened to take the throne during the Seven Years War. We call the local part of it the French and Indian War. George III decided that the colonies should start paying money for the costs that the treasury had incurred defending them, but didn't give the colonists (who had largely been acting semi-independently until then) any say in the matter. And the rest is history.

Posted by: junior at August 27, 2021 10:43 PM (PTw5h)

411 Did Boris "Biden is a Breath of Fresh Air" Johnson have any role to play in queering the American election in 2020?

Just wondering

Posted by: Common Tater at August 27, 2021 10:44 PM (faXIs)

412 Big Toy had Lincoln killed.

Then made a fortune off of Lincoln Logs.

Then Nazi scientists turned them into Legos, through a secret Danish operation funded by the Rockefellers and Rothschilds.

Posted by: Miklos, connector of dots at August 27, 2021 10:46 PM (QzkSJ)

413 the big winner in the biden presidency is israel

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 10:47 PM (K3ZCc)

414 @399 Had a Classics professor who believed that if George III had allowed the colonies to elect MPs and given leading members of colonial society titles of nobility, the British Empire would still be around and as strong as ever.

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I've suggested similar in the past. I don't think that the noble titles would have been necessary. But I'm of the opinion that if the colonists had been allowed to elect MPs, the war might have not happened.

I suggested that once on the forum of a company that happens to be located in England, and the locals noted that no colony had representatives in Parliament. I countered by noting the rather large size of the Thirteen Colonies in comparison to the other British overseas holdings of the era. Another commenter there agreed that there was some merit to that argument, as just a few decades later New York was the largest English-speaking city in the world.

Posted by: junior at August 27, 2021 10:47 PM (PTw5h)

415 *When Ty Woods' body was brought back from Benghazi to Dover, biden was there w obama. Biden said something horribly inappropriate to Ty Woods' Dad, along the lines of "your son had big balls". Later, ppl speculated biden had seen them fighting in Benghazi in real time, but failed to send help.

if that is true Obamma and Biden are even bigger world class ratfuckers

Posted by: Stacy from marketing (the hot Stacy !) at August 27, 2021 10:47 PM (bTQ72)

416 Then Nazi scientists turned them into Legos, through a secret Danish operation funded by the Rockefellers and Rothschilds.
Posted by: Miklos, connector of dots at August 27, 2021 10:46 PM (QzkSJ)

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I did not know this.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 10:47 PM (VxC1e)

417 Boris Johnson is a clown. Tony Blair is the devil.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 27, 2021 10:48 PM (ybIRR)

418
France traded Canada for one island in the Carribean if I remember

Posted by: Stacy from marketing (the hot Stacy !) at August 27, 2021 10:48 PM (bTQ72)

419 queering the American election in 2020?
Just wondering

Posted by: Common Tater at August 27, 2021 10:44 PM (faXIs)
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I read, here, that in '16 Boris was tooling around MI6 and knew everything.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 10:48 PM (/jZjK)

420 The last of the Civil War Vets died in the early 50's, when some were over 100 years old. I think the last one died in 1956 or something. Something to think about.
Posted by: Boswell at August 27, 2021 10:13 PM (5iUNf)

Dad worked on the base newspaper on Fort Myers (VA) in the 50's and it got known that the "last surviving Confederate Veteran" in Virginia was upset because he didn't have a uniform to be buried in. According to dad the ladies in the office got a replica tunic based on R.E. Lee's tunic run up and they went down to interview him. Dad got the directions and the advice to bring along a fifth of peach brandy.
They presented him the tunic and trousers, which he modeled in his wheel chair, the photographer got the pic, and he told a short tale about how he had entered as a drummer boy
As they left back to the base he asked a couple of locals about the old gentleman, and Dad said he was told that to get a pension all you had to do was get two old soldiers to vouch for you and have it approved. They figured the old gentleman was in his 80's
I have the photo from dad, it hung on the wall for a long time

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2021 10:49 PM (HG00O)

421 @389 I think its hilarious that when the Stuart dynasty died out with Anne, England had to offer the monarchy to some Germanic schlub in Hanover who couldn't even speaka da English.

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And prior to that, they'd installed a Dutch ruler on the throne (Mary's husband, William). But iirc, all of the kids were hemophiliacs, and died young.

Posted by: junior at August 27, 2021 10:50 PM (PTw5h)

422 Trying to post while it is still Friday, Happy Friday, Horde!!!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at August 27, 2021 10:50 PM (a4EWo)

423 Happy Friday, Debby!

Posted by: Emmie at August 27, 2021 10:52 PM (6RgRK)

424
One of my (n-) great aunts, how many greats I don't remember, lived to be well over 100, and died some time in the late '50s. She was a teenager during the Civil War. My mother heard her tell tales of her "lived experience" during the Civil War.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 27, 2021 10:52 PM (Mzdiz)

425 George III also happened to take the throne during the Seven Years War. We call the local part of it the French and Indian War. George III decided that the colonies should start paying money for the costs that the treasury had incurred defending them, but didn't give the colonists (who had largely been acting semi-independently until then) any say in the matter. And the rest is history.
Posted by: junior at August 27, 2021 10:43 PM (PTw5h)

A young officer during the French and Indian war who was particularly unimpressive was one George Washington. However, the fact that he had significant experience in war and knew British tactics help lead to his military command of the Army of the Revolution. He also was a significant Virginian land owner, and that counted for a lot.

The British monarchy made a ton of mistakes in the 1760's that lead up to them losing the colonies, most notably the arrogance of Parliament and King George III. They needed only to bend in the slightest and we'd be a British commonwealth to this day...but they wouldn't hear of it. It offended their sense of control and their notion that the American Colonialists were...deplorable? Sounds familiar.

Posted by: Boswell at August 27, 2021 10:52 PM (5iUNf)

426 The Corleone Family had a lotta buffahs.

Posted by: Willie Cicci at August 27, 2021 10:53 PM (VxC1e)

427 the 1860 census had Georgia at 10% black, I not sure what AL black % was but not much more than GA

people today frame the thinking on todays framework

Posted by: Stacy from marketing (the hot Stacy !) at August 27, 2021 10:43 PM (bTQ72)

In the states that of the North, the states that compromised "The Union" the demographics were 98.8 percent White. I know that one as a fact. Most blacks lived around New Jersey and New York.

The CSA had a much higher percentage of black people than ten percent. It was about 5mm to 3mm, or 5.5mm to 3.5 mm. But the percentage is pretty clear.

one odd thing, pretty much the richest state if you counted property wealth was Mississippi. Those guys had a lot to lose, and well, as we have seen, they did.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:53 PM (/i32d)

428 President John Tyler (b. 1790, President in the 1840's) still has one grandson alive.
Posted by: t-bird

No, he died last year.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 27, 2021 10:55 PM (KAi1n)

429 Did Boris "Biden is a Breath of Fresh Air" Johnson have any role to play in queering the American election in 2020?

Just wondering
Posted by: Common Tater

Boris is a pimp. He never could have outfought Donaldo. But I didn't know until this day that it was MI-6 all along.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable, Hey Hey at August 27, 2021 10:56 PM (KCbdU)

430 So. Coolidge was basically rickrolling his security detail.

Evening, y'all. F'n hurricanes.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 27, 2021 10:56 PM (F0YaR)

431 The big issue with the Civil War is there were two sides. You can't claim one reason for taking up arms when there are two sides coming from two different mindsets. And also of course, there were many variations within the sides.

I did say that slavery was the key factor, the one thing that if you removed it, would have likely prevented war. Some say it was not a factor. I get that, i know that has been passed on over the decades. And it is true many fought for other reasons. But I don't buy it when people say slavery didn't cause the war. I say read on, just study it more.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 10:57 PM (/i32d)

432 430 So. Coolidge was basically rickrolling his security detail.

Evening, y'all. F'n hurricanes.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 27, 2021 10:56 PM (F0YaR)

Terrible team.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2021 10:57 PM (ynpvh)

433 France traded Canada for one island in the Carribean if I remember
Posted by: Stacy from marketing (the hot Stacy !)

Umm...yeah! It's so cool that you know that! I mean, intelligent people are so much more interesting, not like Todd or Lacey..you know about Todd and Lacey? ...wanna grab a Natural Lite after work?

Posted by: Miklos from Marketing at August 27, 2021 10:58 PM (QzkSJ)

434 302 On You Tube there is a clip of an old man on the show What's My Line? from the early '50's who WITNESSED Lincoln's assassination as a small child....
Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 10:03 PM (dlC0g)

A reminder of how young this country is. My grandfather was born in 1870 - 5 years after the Civil War. And at the time of the Civil War, there were undoubtedly people alive who remembered old folks who had fought in the Revolutionary War.

Posted by: donna&&&&&v at August 27, 2021 10:58 PM (HabA/)

435 434 302 On You Tube there is a clip of an old man on the show What's My Line? from the early '50's who WITNESSED Lincoln's assassination as a small child....
Posted by: JoeF. at August 27, 2021 10:03 PM (dlC0g)
A reminder of how young this country is. My grandfather was born in 1870 - 5 years after the Civil War. And at the time of the Civil War, there were undoubtedly people alive who remembered old folks who had fought in the Revolutionary War.
Posted by: donna&&&&&v at August 27, 2021 10:58 PM (HabA/)

Less than 2 1/2 long lives ago.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2021 10:59 PM (ynpvh)

436 Farmer, LOL!

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 27, 2021 11:00 PM (L2ZTs)

437 wow, wonder how long I had been sock failing ....

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 27, 2021 11:01 PM (bTQ72)

438 in fairness, if the north was interested in slavery they needed to figure out how to buy the slave owners out.
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 10:37 PM (K3ZCc)

The opposing argument, from both the Garrisonians and the Spooner types, was that ownership of humans was in its very existence wrong, and any reimbursement would be in itself a justification of the practice.
As the Northern states felt that by federal law they were illegally compelled to participate and enforce the slave trade via the various runaway slave laws, they were also not particularly interested in honoring any claims of taking of property to be reimbursed.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2021 11:02 PM (HG00O)

439 Rome lasted 1100 years. It appears that its record will remain unchallenged for now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 11:02 PM (VxC1e)

440 I'm not even going to look how many Stacy posts I made

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 27, 2021 11:02 PM (bTQ72)

441 412 Big Toy had Lincoln killed.
Then made a fortune off of Lincoln Logs.
Then Nazi scientists turned them into Legos, through a secret Danish operation funded by the Rockefellers and Rothschilds.
Posted by: Miklos, connector of dots at August 27, 2021 10:46 PM (QzkSJ)

Those Kellogg fucks with their Eggos (Leggo My Eggo) are in on this, aren't they? I always suspected they were cereal killers!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at August 27, 2021 11:04 PM (Agr8U)

442 there were undoubtedly people alive who remembered old folks who had fought in the Revolutionary War.
Posted by: donna&&&&&v at August 27, 2021 10:58 PM (HabA/)

Less than 2 1/2 long lives ago.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Old Mama's Papa (my grandfather) fought in WWI.

As a little kid, sat in his lap while he let me think I was driving the tractor.

Posted by: Miklos the Personal Historian at August 27, 2021 11:05 PM (QzkSJ)

443 France traded Canada for one island in the Carribean if I remember
Posted by: Stacy from marketing (the hot Stacy !) at August 27, 2021 10:48 PM (bTQ72)

I believe that was a major sugar producing island as well, producing more than Quebec did, with nicer winters and less ferocious inhabitants

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2021 11:05 PM (HG00O)

444 The opposing argument, from both the Garrisonians and the Spooner types, was that ownership of humans was in its very existence wrong, and any reimbursement would be in itself a justification of the practice.
As the Northern states felt that by federal law they were illegally compelled to participate and enforce the slave trade via the various runaway slave laws, they were also not particularly interested in honoring any claims of taking of property to be reimbursed.

the thing is is, as reasnabl as that argumnt is, then they should not have agreed to the deal with the south.

how many other guys lives are your principls worth to you?

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 11:06 PM (K3ZCc)

445 442 there were undoubtedly people alive who remembered old folks who had fought in the Revolutionary War.
Posted by: donna&&&&&v at August 27, 2021 10:58 PM (HabA/)

Less than 2 1/2 long lives ago.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

Old Mama's Papa (my grandfather) fought in WWI.

As a little kid, sat in his lap while he let me think I was driving the tractor.

Posted by: Miklos the Personal Historian at August 27, 2021 11:05 PM (QzkSJ)

My Grandfather also fought in the Great War, along with his two brothers. Met all three. He died in the early 1990's.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2021 11:06 PM (ynpvh)

446 My granddaughter just came home from watching a movie at her friend's place across the street. I knew she was here before the door opened on account of my security cam.

It just occurred to me if I had a son still serving I'd be watching that feed like a hawk for a member of the casualty notification team. And praying mightily that I'd never see them come. Ugh.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 27, 2021 11:06 PM (mD/uy)

447 I have the photo from dad, it hung on the wall for a long time
Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2021 10:49 PM (HG00O)

I looked up the oldest Civil War vet - Al Woolson - died in 1956 at 106 - pretty well documented, too. Enlisted in the Union Army in 1864 as a drummer boy, age 14...his dad also enlisted and was wounded at the battle of Shiloh and died.

Woolson claimed to be born in 1847, but that appears to be just what he told the Army in an effort to get regular duty, but its since been shown in census records he was actually born in 1850. He never saw action and was discharged in late 1865.

Posted by: Boswell at August 27, 2021 11:06 PM (5iUNf)

448 Might want to stay away from the baby milk factory for a few days.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 27, 2021 11:06 PM (8IkOE)

449 Might want to stay away from the baby milk factory for a few days.
Posted by: J

what does this have to do with tits?

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 11:07 PM (K3ZCc)

450
[whistles quiet, innocent tune tune]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, Kellogg remote relative at August 27, 2021 11:08 PM (DMQdU)

451 "The Queen will join world leaders at the Cop26 climate conference in Glasgow in November as she returns to work full-time following the pandemic"
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It's Over!!!
No more Pandemic, no more masks, no more vaccinations. No. More. Mask. Threads.

Free at last, free at last

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 11:09 PM (/jZjK)

452 Then Nazi scientists turned them into Legos
Posted by: Miklos, connector of dots

What were they doing in Nigeria?

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 27, 2021 11:09 PM (KAi1n)

453 As the Northern states felt that by federal law they were illegally compelled to participate and enforce the slave trade via the various runaway slave laws, they were also not particularly interested in honoring any claims of taking of property to be reimbursed.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2021 11:02 PM (HG00O)

But what about Md, Kentucky, MO, Delaware, Washington DC and yes WV, I forgot that one last time. The fact is slavery became a Union war aim well after the war began. They played a role too, then benefited from it as well.

i think the CSA seceded mainly over slavery. At least that is what many of the wealthiest, the politicos were worried about.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 11:10 PM (/i32d)

454 what does this have to do with tits?
Posted by: confederatefifth

It's going tits up?

Posted by: Miklos? at August 27, 2021 11:10 PM (QzkSJ)

455 I can imagine God got tired of listening to Adam fapping all day and night and finally told him to take a nap. One rib later and Voila, problem solved. Sucks to be first sometimes.
Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2021 10:18

TY Roy for the best chortle of the day.

Posted by: Farmer at August 27, 2021 11:10 PM (55Qr6)

456 Goodnight all, thanks for the chat. Gotta call it quits early tonight.

Posted by: qdpsteve (L2ZTs) at August 27, 2021 11:11 PM (L2ZTs)

457 what does this have to do with tits?
Posted by: confederatefifth

Everything always gets back to them, doesn't it!

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 27, 2021 11:12 PM (8IkOE)

458 Then Nazi scientists turned them into Legos
Posted by: Miklos, connector of dots

What were they doing in Nigeria?
Posted by: SFGoth

Refueling stop to the Antarctic Nazi Alien UFO Base

Posted by: Miklos, Coast-to-Coast at August 27, 2021 11:12 PM (QzkSJ)

459 Night, Steve. And Don't forget to vote.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2021 11:12 PM (ynpvh)

460 458 Then Nazi scientists turned them into Legos
Posted by: Miklos, connector of dots

What were they doing in Nigeria?
Posted by: SFGoth

Refueling stop to the Antarctic Nazi Alien UFO Base

Posted by: Miklos, Coast-to-Coast at August 27, 2021 11:12 PM (QzkSJ)

I thought they had a base on the dark side of the moon, which, now thinking about it, would be pretty ironic.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 27, 2021 11:12 PM (ynpvh)

461 will big media shift to the NO hurricane to get the paste eater some breathing room

we see

someone on Tucker said that big media follows th leack of the intel community

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 27, 2021 11:12 PM (bTQ72)

462 someone on Tucker said that big media follows th leack of the intel community
Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 27, 2021 11:12 PM (bTQ72)

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Conspiracy theorist!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 11:15 PM (VxC1e)

463 Another entry for nor thinking things through is the poster for the Yogi the Bear movie that came out 10 years ago. It's got Yogis head above Boo boos head facing the viewer with bear fur covering the background. The caption says "Great Things Come in Bears".

Posted by: Mishdog at August 27, 2021 11:17 PM (cqAUI)

464 My sister (who generally votes GOP, but is a total Karen about Wuflu) is exasperated because kids on campus aren't' getting the vaccine. My lib brother is angry with his 19 year old daughter because she won't get the vaccine. Forget "Trumpists" - a lot of young people (including Bernie and Biden voters) aren't getting the vaccine.

Why? I've thought about this and it occurs to me that it's the only way they have to rebel (well, they could have done so by voting for Trump, but no). It was easy Boomers to irritate their parents - wear your skirt too short, grow your hair over your collar, listen to "hippie music." Easy-peasy. Today? You can smoke pot, dye your hair green, say you're the opposite sex, have sex with one or 30 people, call yourself a Commie, march in BLM rallies - and your lib parents will smile indulgently. But refuse the Wuflu vaccine? Why, how dare you!

Posted by: donna&&&&&v at August 27, 2021 11:19 PM (HabA/)

465 Those Kellogg fucks with their Eggos (Leggo My Eggo) are in on this, aren't they? I always suspected they were cereal killers!
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy
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The cereal companies are players in the Military-Industrial complex. If you look at this photo, https://tinyurl.com/2ky3f7wb you will note a semi-parabolic radar antenna, mounted on a submarine mast, at ~3:00, to the right.

The mount for that antenna was made by...yup...you guessed it, General Mills.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 27, 2021 11:20 PM (pbStR)

466 Fredo was stepped over.

He's smart, and he wants respect.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 11:21 PM (VxC1e)

467
the thing is is, as reasnabl as that argumnt is, then they should not have agreed to the deal with the south.
how many other guys lives are your principls worth to you?
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 11:06 PM (K3ZCc)

the full argument can be found in Lysander Spooner's tract Unconstitutionality of Slavery, and is followed up and expanded in his post war No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority (Mises.org and Fee.org have free copies)

Personally, though, the cause of war is not the dispute or issues that are enraging both sides, the cause of warfare is the belief that war will be easier to succeed at than negotiation would be.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2021 11:21 PM (HG00O)

468 I've thought about this and it occurs to me that it's the only way they have to rebel...

Guess no one told them "Question Authority!" was just a slogan.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 27, 2021 11:21 PM (SchxB)

469 in fairness, general mlls built the alvin sub

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 11:22 PM (K3ZCc)

470 Relish with content whatever providence has sent.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 27, 2021 11:22 PM (vuisn)

471 But refuse the Wuflu vaccine? Why, how dare you!

Posted by: donna&&&&&v at August 27, 2021 11:19 PM (HabA/)

good point, I said something very much like this to a self identified Commie. I told him your generation was the first to not rebel at all. You bought into the leftist statism and amplified it, you never rebelled at all. He said, "we perfected it".

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 11:23 PM (/i32d)

472 Both of my paternal g-grandfathers served during the late unpleasantness. Both passed away before I was born, but I certainly remember one of my g-grandmothers, born 1859.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 27, 2021 11:24 PM (pbStR)

473 @467 Personally, though, the cause of war is not the dispute or issues that are enraging both sides, the cause of warfare is the belief that war will be easier to succeed at than negotiation would be.

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In particular, the view held by both sides that the war would be wrapped up and won in just a few short months.

Posted by: junior at August 27, 2021 11:24 PM (PTw5h)

474 I thought they had a base on the dark side of the moon, which, now thinking about it, would be pretty ironic.
Posted by: jim

It's actually a time-share

Posted by: Aliens who fell for the sales pitch at August 27, 2021 11:25 PM (QzkSJ)

475 Might want to stay away from the baby milk factory for a few days.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat
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And the aspirin factory.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 27, 2021 11:25 PM (pbStR)

476 My Grandfather was a Banana Wars Marine. Nicaragua & Panama.

Though little known, those were some cruel and bloody affairs. I'd enjoy reading an A.H. Lloyd treatment on the lead up to, then the campaigns and aftermath(s).

History, on our own continent. I'll wager that there's forgotten lessons there, aplenty.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 27, 2021 11:26 PM (QzJWU)

477 Pelicans' 6-foot-11 Jaxson Hayes is arrested by LAPD:

Bodycam footage from last month shows NBA player screaming 'I can't breathe' after he was cuffed during domestic callout having shoved a cop

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 11:26 PM (/jZjK)

478 Leftists and the young today are so obedient

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 27, 2021 11:27 PM (bTQ72)

479 In particular, the view held by both sides that the war would be wrapped up and won in just a few short months.

Posted by: junior at August 27, 2021 11:24 PM (PTw5h)

they both made the mistake or disdain for the enemy. I remember when Southerners would say one Reb could whip five Yanks. They were wrong about that. The USA said "On to Richmond, they were wrong about that". Most learned people who actually served admitted no one had a clue what was coming.

It sounds odd,but the reason there was never a cease fire is both sides knew if that were done, neither nation would have the will to start it up again.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 11:28 PM (/i32d)

480 Miklos from Marketing, please report to my office immediately.

Posted by: Michaela in HR, my pronouns are she/her/behemoth at August 27, 2021 11:28 PM (a4EWo)

481 Friday Night Lights!!
Texas high school has officially started! My son had a blast playing the sousaphone and even hauling it all over the place a being on the very top row of the stadium. The bands were very competitive but had fun with the other schools band. 6A bands are no joke, they are a huge production!

Posted by: lin-duh at August 27, 2021 11:28 PM (UUBmN)

482 Oh, our team won too.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 27, 2021 11:29 PM (UUBmN)

483 Bodycam footage from last month shows NBA player screaming 'I can't breathe' after he was cuffed during domestic callout having shoved a cop
Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 11:26 PM (/jZjK)

Well, to be sure, breathing is tough if your nose is in the stratosphere.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 27, 2021 11:29 PM (TYpbg)

484 Hi all. Its been a day.

Posted by: Funsize (EiPf6) at August 27, 2021 11:30 PM (EiPf6)

485 Quint there was no real consensus among the states, each had its own issues, at least for the run up. The Northwest states (MI and WI and a few others) had nullification laws about escaped slave laws, and the manufacturing states had interests in tariffs to exclude foreign competition like England, which the cotton producing states relied on for markets of raw materials and importation. Self interest, perverse incentives, and a clownshow shambling towards tragedy.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2021 11:30 PM (HG00O)

486 Miklos from Marketing, please report to my office immediately.
Posted by: Michaela in HR, my pronouns are she/her/behemoth

Make her chase you down. You might still get fired, but they may forget to do that if her heart gives out.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 27, 2021 11:31 PM (SchxB)

487 I've got at least two ancestors who were KIA on the Union side. Jesse Jackson and his ilk can suck their "reparations" right out of my wang.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 27, 2021 10:20

Rod, didn't know you were a poet. Well said.

Posted by: Farmer at August 27, 2021 11:31 PM (55Qr6)

488 I think Biden actually played that asshole Senator from Nevada. ...That character was based on Harry Reid, I'm about 99% sure.
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I can believe it. I wonder if Coppola ever said anything about that.
Posted by: Roy at August 27, 2021 10:24 PM

Godfather II started filming in Oct 1973. Reid was Lt. Governor at the time, ran for US Senate in 1974 and lost, so I doubt it's based on him.

However, in Casino, the politician played by Dick Smothers was definitely based on Harry Reid.

Posted by: Chuck C at August 27, 2021 11:31 PM (EughT)

489 Self interest, perverse incentives, and a clownshow shambling towards tragedy.
Posted by: Kindltot

Why does that sound so familiar?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Getting fitted for a butternut uniform at August 27, 2021 11:32 PM (KCbdU)

490
Had a Classics professor who believed that if George III had allowed the colonies to elect MPs and given leading members of colonial society titles of nobility, the British Empire would still be around and as strong as ever.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable

All we needed was bread and circuses.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2021 11:33 PM (63Dwl)

491 Might want to stay away from the baby milk factory for a few days.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat
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And the aspirin factory.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 27, 2021 11:25 PM (pbStR)

A wise choice.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 27, 2021 11:33 PM (AVDhF)

492 Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2021 11:30 PM (HG00O)

that is very true. Look at Virginia, the most important CSA state.They didn't want to secede. They were far from the largest slave holding state by percentage, but they were the most important state. No Virginia, no CSA. They mostly joined because the USA took up arms against the seceding states. This is very reminiscent of the American Revolution really.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 11:35 PM (/i32d)

493 Self interest, perverse incentives, and a clownshow shambling towards tragedy.
Posted by: Kindltot

Why does that sound so familiar?

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Getting fitted for a butternut uniform at August 27, 2021 11:32 PM (KCbdU)

a line worth remembering.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 11:36 PM (/i32d)

494
comment from one of the middleschoolers today

dad, I do not think they are enforcing any dress codes

I saw a whole bunch of stomaches today

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 27, 2021 11:36 PM (bTQ72)

495 I do love the Foundation for Economic Education, I just wish I had more things to love it for.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 27, 2021 11:36 PM (HG00O)

496 Funsize how are you doing? Were the services for your Grampa today?

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at August 27, 2021 11:39 PM (a4EWo)

497 U.S. military is leaving behind 75,000 vehicles, 600,000 weapons and 208 aircraft in Afghanistan
_Daily Wire

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 11:40 PM (/jZjK)

498 @479 The USA said "On to Richmond, they were wrong about that".

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Well, that particular issue was more a matter of the generals involved than anything else. The Union was cursed with a succession of miserable generals in command of the Army of the Potomac.

On the other hand, losing Richmond early on probably wouldn't have been as bad for the CSA as losing DC would have been for the Union. The resulting humiliation for the Union might have caused foreign powers to take the CSA more seriously. And getting into the deep south - as Sherman did - where a second capitol would have been located wouldn't have been possible any sooner than Sherman did it.

Posted by: junior at August 27, 2021 11:42 PM (PTw5h)

499 U.S. military is leaving behind 75,000 vehicles, 600,000 weapons and 208 aircraft in Afghanistan
_Daily Wire

Nope. Not intentional.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 27, 2021 11:42 PM (AVDhF)

500 China to activate world's first ''clean' nuclear reactor in September-(liquid thorium)
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How far will the wind carry radio active material after the reactor blows up?

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 11:43 PM (/jZjK)

501 U.S. military is leaving behind 75,000 vehicles, 600,000 weapons and 208 aircraft in Afghanistan
_Daily Wire

Just wait until they start getting calls about the extended warranties on those vehicles. They'll declare jihad against telemarketers.

Wait, that might be a good thing.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 27, 2021 11:43 PM (SchxB)

502 Saw SRV a few months before his death. Anchorage, Joe Cocker opened. One of the best concerts I've ever seen.

Posted by: Bosk at August 27, 2021 11:43 PM (yh68b)

503
My Grandfather was a Banana Wars Marine. Nicaragua & Panama.

Though little known, those were some cruel and bloody affairs. I'd enjoy reading an A.H. Lloyd treatment on the lead up to, then the campaigns and aftermath(s).

The British had banana wars too.

https://youtu.be/F4PZXuk3TsM

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2021 11:44 PM (63Dwl)

504 Maybe the Taliban will reopen Bagram as the Joseph Robinette Biden International Airport and Munitions Factory seeing as how he has been so generous.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at August 27, 2021 11:44 PM (a4EWo)

505 My 16 year old sons algebra teacher told me that yesterday one of her female students was complaining about how cold she was in the classroom. My son says I just got in here. Give it a minute. She was laughing when she told me.

Posted by: Jmel at August 27, 2021 11:44 PM (bVhJi)

506 HHS diverting millions in funding marked for vaccine efforts to housing migrant children
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Of course, the pandemic is over, done, gone, kaput.

Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em at August 27, 2021 11:46 PM (/jZjK)

507 I dont want to hear shit about gun control from Biden

the reall number of rifles and pistols abandoned in A-Stan is a million

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 27, 2021 11:47 PM (bTQ72)

508 Make her chase you down. You might still get fired, but they may forget to do that if her heart gives out.
Posted by: Blanco Basura

Conference room.

Two laps around the big table and another "Ok, whatever".

Posted by: Miklos from marketing doing an Agile Sprint at August 27, 2021 11:48 PM (QzkSJ)

509
he real number of rifles and pistols abandoned in A-Stan is a million

Darn that gun show loophole!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 27, 2021 11:51 PM (63Dwl)

510 osted by: junior at August 27, 2021 11:42 PM (PTw5h)

this a a great example of where the Union (I call them the USA) had powers the CSA never had. No doubt losing Washington DC would have been worse in some ways. But they knew that. That is why they put a clamp down on MD that could never be recovered from. MD was pro CSA, Baltimore more than any other place is that can even be imagined. But the USA put a clamp down so hard that MD never had a choice.

Same with Northern Virginia. They took Alexandria and most of Fairfax and other counties because they simply had to do it. They had no interest in being surrounded. They took Lee's home at Arlington because they could.

In the end the CSA did very well from a military perspective. They never thought they would take over the North or even Washington DC. The plan was to inflict so much pain that the voting populace said enough, F them, to Hell with them. The high school history books don't teach this, but it almost happened three times. The CSA leaders, mainly Lee, tried their gambit and it failed.

Posted by: Quint at August 27, 2021 11:51 PM (/i32d)

511 U.S. military is leaving behind 75,000 vehicles

The engine warning lights will all go on at our command

Posted by: Gen. Million Dollar Milley at August 27, 2021 11:54 PM (QzkSJ)

512 China to activate world's first ''clean' nuclear reactor in September-(liquid thorium)

which is nice but it is made from uighurs

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 11:55 PM (K3ZCc)

513 -U.S. military is leaving behind 75,000 vehicles

but they did take all the 15mm wrenches and sockets ...

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 27, 2021 11:55 PM (bTQ72)

514 How far will the wind carry radio active material after the reactor blows up?
Posted by: Braenyard, Major Biden says, I bite 'em

Here we go again!

Posted by: Tokyo getting ready to be squished by a giant lizard at August 27, 2021 11:56 PM (KCbdU)

515 While packing up to leave couldn't some low level serviceman have been assigned the task of filling all of the gas tanks with sand? It might have slowed them down a little. I expect we'll see Joe in a leather flight jacket this weekend sitting at his table watching drone footage.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at August 27, 2021 11:59 PM (a4EWo)

516 Good Morning, Mr. Taliban!

I'm calling about the Extended Service Warranty options for your vehicles

Posted by: Miklos at the Bangalore Call Centre at August 28, 2021 12:00 AM (QzkSJ)

517 U.S. military is leaving behind 75,000 vehicles

in fairness they lojackd those bitches, and the trucks

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 28, 2021 12:00 AM (K3ZCc)

518 310 George III had 15 (!) legitimate children
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Yet the Hanovers had trouble coming up w/ a legitimate grandchild to take the throne. When the future George IV's dau Charlotte died after childbirith in 1817, there were no legit grandkids to George III.

The race was on and Edward won fathering Victoria. But he didn't have such great luck as he died shortly after she was born. If he had lived he would have succeeded as king himself, before Victoria.

Posted by: Farmer at August 28, 2021 12:02 AM (55Qr6)

519 I expect we'll see Joe in a leather flight jacket this weekend sitting at his table watching drone footage.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz

*spoiler*

Drone footage is video of Joe

Posted by: Miklosian Hall of Mirrors at August 28, 2021 12:02 AM (QzkSJ)

520 Well, that particular issue was more a matter of the generals involved than anything else. The Union was cursed with a succession of miserable generals in command of the Army of the Potomac.

it was mentioned at Fox or someplace recently that Lincoln fired general who sucked. Some of them were ok but not as Army commanders. Compare it to Biden. He won't fire anyone because he thinks it will look bad politically. Lincoln didn't give a shit about that, he knew his only charge was victory.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 12:03 AM (/i32d)

521 @510 The plan was to inflict so much pain that the voting populace said enough, F them, to Hell with them. The high school history books don't teach this, but it almost happened three times.

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Yes, and no.

What happened to the Army of the Potomac - the largest Union army - over and over again was pretty brutal. But at the same time that Lee was exposing the incompetence of the Union generals commanding the most important Union army, Grant was inexorably working his way down the Mississippi.

In many respects, what Grant was doing was more important than what the Army of the Potomac consistently failed to do. The whole point of both the Army of the Potomac and the Army of Northern Virginia was to protect that army's own capitol, and threaten the enemy's capitol. Aside from that, there wasn't much immediate threat there. Grant, on the other hand, was tearing the Confederacy in half. And when he was finished, Sherman was in prime position to start his March to the Sea.

Posted by: junior at August 28, 2021 12:04 AM (PTw5h)

522 If Kamala is at Dover, what are the odds she cackles inappropriately at least once?

Posted by: EveR at August 28, 2021 12:05 AM (ZZDMQ)

523 What were the quantities of materiel and vehicles *planned* to be left, when the US pulled out in good order, as was the plan/assumption? This would have been for the Afghan army that evaporated in June/July*, leading to this situation. I'd have guessed most of it, since by this point, with withdrawal planned initially for back in May and the draw-down the main activity since February of last year, you'd be well along with the exercise.

But it's hard to imagine we planned to leave the Afghans with 75K vehicles. I'd guess less than half that.

With no Congress and no press, more/less, we may never know.

* it wasn't one unbroken and uniform story, far from it - there was bitter fighting in some places, the collapse gained momentum when it became a self-reinforcing cascade, and traditional/practical dynamics kicked in - $$$, go with a winner, avoid retribution, your cousin guarantees you safety and a new gig under the new management

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 28, 2021 12:05 AM (OTzUX)

524 Know what dill bread is made of?
Why dill dough, of course

Posted by: Boomer Shaka Laka Laka at August 28, 2021 12:08 AM (UIngH)

525 Thorium salt reactor. Dammit WE should have done that 40 years ago.

Posted by: Aetius451AD work phone at August 28, 2021 12:08 AM (z4k8L)

526 Aside from that, there wasn't much immediate threat there. Grant, on the other hand, was tearing the Confederacy in half. And when he was finished, Sherman was in prime position to start his March to the Sea.

Posted by: junior at August 28, 2021 12:04 AM (PTw5h)

It is good info junior. I always want to learn here, and everything I have learned about history is because I have always been open to learn. I thing some miss that key feature.

Of course taking Washington DC would have made a difference. But it was never going to happen. The best chance was First Manassas but even that was a pipe dream. You can't make green troops veterans simply by wishing that were the case.

When Lee outmaneuvered the Army of the Potomac (again) by stealing a march on them to Gettysburg, Hooker told Lincoln he could take Richmond. Lincoln was very clear about this one. The goal was Lee's army, not some city. Lee's Army was the Confederacy a that point, the Southerners thought so, and the Yankees though so.

no doubt taking a capital city is a big deal, I am not denying that. But it is not a game or Risk. Lee's Army is what kept Confederate hopes alive, and nothing else.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 12:12 AM (/i32d)

527 I wonder how much of that weaponry will end up being used against Israel?

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 28, 2021 12:12 AM (KAi1n)

528 Richmond did have some manufacturing plants. But the reality is Lee's Army had more stuff from the enemy than they had from their own country.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 12:13 AM (/i32d)

529 I wonder how much of that weaponry will end up being used against Israel?
Posted by: S

not a bit

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 28, 2021 12:13 AM (K3ZCc)

530 @rhomboid, I'm a cynic in my old age, but I suspect the real purpose of a lot of that stuff was to be purchased, and once it was purchased it did not matter to anyone what happened to it.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 28, 2021 12:15 AM (BMmaB)

531 @520 it was mentioned at Fox or someplace recently that Lincoln fired general who sucked. Some of them were ok but not as Army commanders. Compare it to Biden. He won't fire anyone because he thinks it will look bad politically. Lincoln didn't give a shit about that, he knew his only charge was victory.

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McClellan needs no mention, of course. Burnside was apparently a decent quartermaster, but even he knew that he had no business leading troops. Hooker was apparently a good subordinate, but froze up when he was put in charge. Meade was put in charge for Gettysburg, where he pulled off a win. But Grant was effectively calling the shots afterwards, so it's difficult to say how good Meade might have been compared to the earlier generals.

Lincoln would fire generals when he could. But Lincoln was also unable to fire some generals due to political reasons. One in particular, General Butler - who commanded the Army of the James, was left in place even though he was widely regarded as incompetent. He wasn't removed until after the 1864 election, when politics was no longer a concern.

Posted by: junior at August 28, 2021 12:15 AM (PTw5h)

532
methinks the CSA would have sent their sons north to fight forever

it was not until Sherman took the war to those sending their sons north and burning their shit that the calculations changed

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 28, 2021 12:16 AM (bTQ72)

533 Thorium salt reactor. Dammit WE should have done that 40 years ago.

We could have. But we wanted breeder reactors to make bomb material we ended up never using.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 28, 2021 12:16 AM (SchxB)

534 when they were going to do the six degrees of separatin movie, it was originally set in tennessee, but they had to move it somewhere else since nobody would believe anybody in tennessee was more than three degrees
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 27, 2021 10:27

LOL, thanks for the wisdom c5, we can always count on you. But did you just insult all TN Morons?

Posted by: Farmer at August 28, 2021 12:18 AM (55Qr6)

535 There is no 'dark side' of the moon.

As a matter of fact, it's all dark!

Posted by: Pink Floyd at August 28, 2021 12:18 AM (dB4Iz)

536
wait, we were going to sell military hardware to the afghan govt or the taliban

the afghan govt could not pay for it, and 20 years ago the USA kinda fought the talibon

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 28, 2021 12:18 AM (bTQ72)

537 methinks the CSA would have sent their sons north to fight forever

it was not until Sherman took the war to those sending their sons north and burning their shit that the calculations changed

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 28, 2021 12:16 AM (bTQ72)

I didn't say they would not fight in the North, I said they had no plans to take over the North. Those are two very different things. I respect Sherman for his abilities. But he admitted he would have be lost without Grant. Aslo. the famous "March to the Sea" was mostly an unopposed burning raid on civilians. Sherman outmaneuvered enemies before that, but not on the March to the Sea.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 12:19 AM (/i32d)

538 @526 When Lee outmaneuvered the Army of the Potomac (again) by stealing a march on them to Gettysburg, Hooker told Lincoln he could take Richmond. Lincoln was very clear about this one. The goal was Lee's army, not some city. Lee's Army was the Confederacy a that point, the Southerners thought so, and the Yankees though so.

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Grant agreed with this. When his troops finally took Richmond, Grant never bothered to enter the city himself. His focus was purely on running down Lee's army before it could escape to fight another day.

Posted by: junior at August 28, 2021 12:19 AM (PTw5h)

539 SFGoth, probably not much, directly. Most will probably be sold, whole or parted out, if they decide maintaining it isn't worth the trouble and cost. Besides, there's no lack of weapons or $$ to supply the few entities in a position to actually attack Israel (well hello there, Tehran). And shipping this materiel out would involve other countries and their rail lines, plus an ocean voyage. Lots of sticky elements.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 28, 2021 12:19 AM (OTzUX)

540 LOL, thanks for the wisdom c5, we can always count on you. But did you just insult all TN Morons?
Posted by: F

isn't that redundant?

I have no idea, I was going to say georgia but I think there are some of the horde there so I went the tennessee.

they have to know I am just funnin'`

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 28, 2021 12:21 AM (K3ZCc)

541 Caesar I have no idea, but I do know that somewhere there are plans and approved activities with numbers attached for equipping the new Afghan army. I'd bet most or all of the gear can be accounted for in that sense, though of course the underlying assumptions about need/ability to use and maintain might be the place to look.

These weren't purchase orders signed off on by low-level people.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 28, 2021 12:22 AM (OTzUX)

542 " bomb material we ended up never using."

Yet.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 28, 2021 12:23 AM (OTzUX)

543 -I have no idea, I was going to say georgia but I think there are some of the horde there so I went the tennessee.

you could have said MN also

some smaller towns away from the twin cities haz a whole bunch of cousins living there

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 28, 2021 12:25 AM (bTQ72)

544 Unlike purple haired millennial eunuchs, us TN morons have a sense of humor.

Posted by: CppThis at August 28, 2021 12:26 AM (UewuT)

545 In the Shenandoah there was a Union general, one (like many) who got his command by paying to equip his division/whatever. They were well outfitted and supplied, apparently. Because Stonewall Jackson's army, for a time, made a point of attacking and raiding them - to get supplies.

General Banks - or, to Jackson's barefoot infantry, "Commissary Banks". One of many favorite Civil War items.

At that time the term CSA already stood for "corn, salt, and apples" - food the rebs were lucky to get when they could.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 28, 2021 12:26 AM (OTzUX)

546 Drone ONE isis asshole?? I'd go after anyone known or suspected of being isis as a starter.

Then we'd get serious.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 28, 2021 12:27 AM (KATBx)

547 isn't that redundant?

Isn't everything?

Posted by: Jean-Miklos Sartre at August 28, 2021 12:27 AM (QzkSJ)

548 But did you just insult all TN Morons?

.....

Yes. Yes he did.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 12:28 AM (7F9te)

549
President John Tyler (b. 1790, President in the 1840's) still has one grandson alive.
Posted by: t-bird

No, he died last year.
Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n)

No, one is still alive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/
2020/11/29/president-john-tyler-grandson-harrison/

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 28, 2021 12:29 AM (pNxlR)

550 Dang....show up late and miss all the fun.

Posted by: redchief at August 28, 2021 12:30 AM (Kab4E)

551 At that time the term CSA already stood for "corn, salt, and apples" - food the rebs were lucky to get when they could.
Posted by: rhomboid

Goobers, goobers, eatin' goober peas
Goodness how delicious
Eatin' goober peas

Posted by: Confederate Marching Songs by Miklos at August 28, 2021 12:30 AM (QzkSJ)

552 I think its hilarious that when the Stuart dynasty died out with Anne, England had to offer the monarchy to some Germanic schlub in Hanover who couldn't even speaka da English.
Diplomatic marriages: they can bite you in the ass generations from now.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 27, 2021 10:32

That crappy excuse for a dynasty should have never been on the throne. Their claim was thru that Henry Tydorr, who overthrew the rightful king, Richard III at Bosworth in 1485. It was really a French invasion that put that scumbag Henry VII on the throne.

Posted by: Farmer at August 28, 2021 12:30 AM (55Qr6)

553 That crappy excuse for a dynasty should have never been on the throne. Their claim was thru that Henry Tydorr, who overthrew the rightful king, Richard III at Bosworth in 1485. It was really a French invasion that put that scumbag Henry VII on the throne.
Posted by: Farmer

In fairness, the French invasion was in 1066.

Posted by: Tokyo getting ready to be squished by a giant lizard at August 28, 2021 12:31 AM (KCbdU)

554 Off kaiju sock

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Getting fitted for a butternut uniform at August 28, 2021 12:32 AM (KCbdU)

555 The top 5 most inbred states according to a Queensland university study of the human genome:

Washington
Oregon
Montana
South Dakota
New Mexico

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 12:33 AM (7F9te)

556 In fairness, the French invasion was in 1066.
Posted by: Tokyo getting ready

Way ahead of the British Invasion

Posted by: Miklos the Cultred Historian at August 28, 2021 12:33 AM (QzkSJ)

557 Reaper flown from the MidEast (cough, Masirah Island, cough) delivered our best wishes to the ISIS-Khorasan dude, who was unwisely moving by car in daylight. Hellfire? That cool blades-of-hell payload? Dunno.

Masirah's just a semi-educated guess. Your world atlas will tell you A'stan cannot be entered without crossing over other sovereign territories. Range and politix = ocean route for most of the trip. At least seems most likely.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 28, 2021 12:33 AM (OTzUX)

558 @552 Their claim was thru that Henry Tydorr, who overthrew the rightful king, Richard III at Bosworth in 1485. It was really a French invasion that put that scumbag Henry VII on the throne.

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On the positive side, that French invasion resulted in the ascension of one of the greatest English monarchs.

Posted by: junior at August 28, 2021 12:33 AM (PTw5h)

559 Re: 75k vehicles left.

Would some of those vehicles be put there for us in case we came back? It seems leaving lots of vehicles makes another invasion a whole lot easier. It cuts down on logistics because you only have to send the troops and not their vehicles which are just waiting for them. Like we have done in Europe and Korea.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 28, 2021 12:34 AM (UVMn8)

560 @559 Would some of those vehicles be put there for us in case we came back? It seems leaving lots of vehicles makes another invasion a whole lot easier. It cuts down on logistics because you only have to send the troops and not their vehicles which are just waiting for them. Like we have done in Europe and Korea.

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Afghanistan's not really a place that we'd want to go back to. As Rhomboid noted, it's land-locked. So we don't have ocean access. And we're not chummy with any of Afghanistan's neighbors (one - Iran - is out and out hostile; three are in Putin's sphere; the last - Pakistan - isn't exactly trustworthy, and likes the Taliban more than us), so supply lines are always somewhat of a concern.

Posted by: junior at August 28, 2021 12:37 AM (PTw5h)

561 Beartooth's that an interesting thought. No idea. Didn't think we were positioning anything with that in mind.

I do know that we started with 12 SF guys on donkeys, and that was a choice, not an expedient. And the famously "small footprint" exploded into an enormous one much later.

The story is not a linear one and the villains are not mostly or possibly at all the usual suspects, but we have bumper-sticker-level, MSM-frameworked semi- and full-strawmen to torture and burn, so will leave it there.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 28, 2021 12:38 AM (OTzUX)

562 Goodnight, beloved Horde! Be strong and courageous!

Posted by: Emmie at August 28, 2021 12:39 AM (6RgRK)

563 On the positive side, that French invasion resulted in the ascension of one of the greatest English monarchs.
Posted by: junior

True. William III was a bit of a whoopsie, but he could administer the bureaucracy like no other.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable - Getting fitted for a butternut uniform at August 28, 2021 12:40 AM (KCbdU)

564 The key differences with Europe/Korea is that we're reasonably friendly with the locals, and those regions are politically stable.

Posted by: CppThis at August 28, 2021 12:40 AM (UewuT)

565 The top 5 most inbred states according to a Queensland university study of the human genome:

Washington
Oregon
Montana
South Dakota
New Mexico

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 12:33 AM (7F9te)

don't they live on an island where 90 percent of it is uninhabitable? I used to want to visit Oz, but no longer. I would pick Montana or SD over OZ any time.

I learned to never trust foreign media many decades ago. I recall when the London Times said my city was going to burn up in flames over racial strife or some BS. I used to respect them, but they lost me there as it was completely made up. I do think they are better these days though. Sometimes you need a foreigner to shit on you because they only feel comfortable doing that to others.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 12:40 AM (/i32d)

566 States that allow first cousin marriage:

AK, AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, FL, GA, HI, IL, IN, ME, MD, MA, MN, NJ, NM, NY, NC, RI, SC, TN, UT, VT, VA, WI.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 12:42 AM (7F9te)

567 he key differences with Europe/Korea is that we're reasonably friendly with the locals, and those regions are politically stable.

Posted by: CppThis at August 28, 2021 12:40 AM (UewuT)

Korea had a major anti American thing going a couple of decades ago. I don't envy them for the strife they are under, it is like us during the heat of the Cold War. But there were times when Korea loved to go after Americans. The last one I recall was why Psy got in trouble.

The Euros are different, it is more a general disdain for no particular reason. Many love our pop culture but say they don't like us. In the end, most have very little knowledge of the USA other than what they see on sitcoms.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 12:44 AM (/i32d)

568 To touch back on a topic yesterday.

Another reason Mark Knopfler annoys me, even though I love his playing and music, is because his songs have done more damage to me than any other. "Lady Writer" has literally ripped my finger nails in half multiple times. I've broken more strings playing Sultans of Swing than playing Metallica.

Why can't you just play power chords Mark????

Posted by: Rbastid at August 28, 2021 12:44 AM (XwTyM)

569 Conspicuously absent from that list are AL and MS, the two states stereotyped as chronic cousin humpers.

Posted by: CppThis at August 28, 2021 12:46 AM (UewuT)

570 States that allow first cousin marriage:

We are thanking for such useful informations.

Posted by: Afghans, yearning to breathe free, or something at August 28, 2021 12:46 AM (QzkSJ)

571 Conspicuously absent from that list are AL and MS, the two states stereotyped as chronic cousin humpers.
Posted by: CppThis

they thought the law was redundant

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 28, 2021 12:48 AM (K3ZCc)

572 Conspicuously absent from that list are AL and MS, the two states stereotyped as chronic cousin humpers.

....

I would add WV to that conspicuously absent list.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 12:49 AM (7F9te)

573 besides, if you wrote it down they would not be abl to read it anyway

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 28, 2021 12:49 AM (K3ZCc)

574 Refugees being housed at our military installations are not required to get vaccinated, while our military are forced to.

I can't believe this shit. Our military are being murdered by these people they are evacuating to our country and the rules don't apply to this bunch of fucking freeloaders who will continue to bleed us dry.

Posted by: four seasons at August 28, 2021 12:50 AM (PisyI)

575 I would add WV to that conspicuously absent list.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

Concupisciently absent.

Posted by: Miklosian Late Nite Addenda at August 28, 2021 12:51 AM (QzkSJ)

576 **being housed at our military installations are not required to get vaccinated, while our military are forced to.

Si' , bad this is

Posted by: Jose from Jalisco at August 28, 2021 12:52 AM (bTQ72)

577 Yeah, them too

Posted by: four seasons at August 28, 2021 12:52 AM (PisyI)

578 I would add WV to that conspicuously absent list.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 12:49 AM (7F9te)

the classic. All conservative for some reason. Funny how that goes. The modern left is thinking furries and transgenders, the rest are relics like the term transvestite or vegetarian.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 12:53 AM (/i32d)

579 they thought the law was redundant
Posted by: confederatefifth

That's the third time you said "redundant".

Posted by: Miklos is, in fact, counting at August 28, 2021 12:53 AM (QzkSJ)

580 You can't make this shit up if you tried.

PJ Media has the story.

Posted by: four seasons at August 28, 2021 12:53 AM (PisyI)

581
Joe, it's time for you to go.

Posted by: America at August 28, 2021 12:54 AM (jYQlA)

582 The Euros are different, it is more a general disdain for no particular reason. Many love our pop culture but say they don't like us. In the end, most have very little knowledge of the USA other than what they see on sitcoms.
Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 12:44 AM (/i32d)

Most Europeans I dealt with couldn't help themselves by telling me how we should run our affairs. Oddly, enough it always boiled down to how they do things and always to their advantage. Like I said, how odd.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 28, 2021 12:56 AM (UVMn8)

583 That's the third time you said "redundant".
Posted by: Miklos is, in fact, counting

Everything must be posted in triplicate.

Posted by: US Department of Redundancy Department at August 28, 2021 12:57 AM (KCbdU)

584 "In the end, most have very little knowledge of the USA other than what they see on sitcoms. "

In all fairness, that would explain why they all think we're idiots.

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 28, 2021 12:59 AM (7MBHe)

585 Like I said, how odd.
Posted by: Beartooth

Gotta give the Euros credit though.

They have successfully prevented millions of American refugees from moving there.

Posted by: Miklos, ex-Euro at August 28, 2021 12:59 AM (QzkSJ)

586 "I would add WV to that conspicuously absent list. "

West Virginia is second cousins. My mom was engaged to her second cousin when she started dating my dad. (Who was not related. Different mountain.)

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 28, 2021 01:01 AM (7MBHe)

587 Everything must be posted in triplicate.
Posted by: US Department of Redundancy Department

Dotted lines are racist, sexist, and imperialist.

Posted by: Miklos, am I doing this rite at August 28, 2021 01:01 AM (QzkSJ)

588 Evening, nightwalkers. Just cleaning up some late work.

Two observations:

1. I had that Jesus "honor thy father and mother" switchplate in my house when I was a child. I never, ever thought of it that way.

2. I'm really doubtful about that Lincoln photo. Considering the bulky equipment of those days and the extremely long exposure time, the photo could only have been taken either when Lincoln was dying (in which case the room was full of people and the photo would be blurry from his breathing) or after his death, and there is no way Edwin Stanton would have left the body alone for the length of time it would have taken to get the shot. So color me skeptical.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 28, 2021 01:01 AM (2JVJo)

589 n the end, most have very little knowledge of the USA other than what they see on sitcoms. "

In all fairness, that would explain why they all think we're idiots.

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 28, 2021 12:59 AM (7MBHe)

I spent a long time i London. not measured in weeks but measured in seasons. I met a lot of really cool people and some true assholes. I recall many who said they would never visit the USA because if they did they would be shot. I wish I were kidding about that.

The people I really got to know would tell me about their travels to the USA. Ninety percent of them had only been to Las Vegas and Orlando/Disney World. Now if they doesn't give you a warped view of America, I don't know what does.

Third and fourth place, well behind the first two, were New York City and Washington DC.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 01:03 AM (/i32d)

590 West Virginia is second cousins. My mom was engaged to her second cousin when she started dating my dad. (Who was not related. Different mountain.)
Posted by: s

that was funny

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 28, 2021 01:13 AM (K3ZCc)

591 In fairness, the French invasion was in 1066.
Posted by: Tokyo getting ready to be squished by a giant lizard at August 28, 2021 12:31

True dat. That William of Normandy was some bastard, literally, yes literally.

Posted by: Farmer at August 28, 2021 01:14 AM (55Qr6)

592 when I was a child. I never, ever thought of it that way.

Posted by: M

what way is that?

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 28, 2021 01:14 AM (K3ZCc)

593 In fairness, the French invasion was in 1066.
Posted by: Tokyo getting ready to be squished by a giant lizard at August 28, 2021 12:31

True dat. That William of Normandy was some bastard, literally, yes literally.
Posted by: F

this was kind of the ultimate you hate me now but you will thank me later thing

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 28, 2021 01:16 AM (K3ZCc)

594 True dat. That William of Normandy was some bastard, literally, yes literally.
Posted by: Farmer

The original Norman French term is "bastige"

Posted by: Le Mikeuse at August 28, 2021 01:16 AM (QzkSJ)

595 Good evening, horde!

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 01:17 AM (dB4Iz)

596 States that allow first cousin marriage:
AK, AZ, CA, CO, CT, DC, FL, GA, HI, IL, IN, ME, MD, MA, MN, NJ, NM, NY, NC, RI, SC, TN, UT, VT, VA, WI.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 12:42

OK, are trying to hint that the new GF is your cousin? Heck, we won't judge.

Posted by: Farmer at August 28, 2021 01:19 AM (55Qr6)

597 Hmm.

Civil War 1.0, cousin-marriage and goatfkers in the M.E.

SSDD? LOL.

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 01:19 AM (dB4Iz)

598 trying to hint that the new GF is your cousin? Heck, we won't judge.
Posted by: F

that or new sites for momes

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 28, 2021 01:20 AM (K3ZCc)

599 what way is that?
Posted by: confederatefifth at August 28, 2021 01:14 AM (K3ZCc)

Must I say it? As if Jesus was "aroused." Let's leave it at that.

And speaking of the Conqueror, by the time of his death, he was grossly fat. He died after his horse shied and he was thrown against the pommel (some sort of internal injury, I suppose). And when he was placed in his coffin, he was too fat for the lid to be closed. The chronicles tell us that, as the monks tried to close the lid, William's gut exploded and scattered purulent, disgusting liquid over people and filling the church with an unendurable stench.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 28, 2021 01:21 AM (2JVJo)

600 in fairness, the nice thing about being an orphan is you do not have to worry about these things

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 28, 2021 01:22 AM (K3ZCc)

601 I had that Jesus "honor thy father and mother" switchplate in my house when I was a child. I never, ever thought of it that way.

.....

That's because you don't (or perhaps didn't) have the mind of a reprobate.

Reminds me of the time when I had to explain to my Pastor why people on Facebook were making fun of the little message on our church sign. It read "Forgiveness is to swallow, when you want to spit".

It never occurred to him to reprobates of community would sexuality it, and when I pointed out the mockery online, he still didn't understand what I was talking about. So I had to explain further. Rather awkward conversation.

I gained the ultimate respect for him that day, the fact that he was oblivious to it showed me just how pure a heart he has.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 01:24 AM (7F9te)

602 Cousin F'ing huh? Man you guys are bored AF.

Posted by: JROD at August 28, 2021 01:25 AM (0jZnq)

603 OK, are trying to hint that the new GF is your cousin? Heck, we won't judge.

Posted by: Farmer at August 28, 2021 01:19 AM (55Qr6)

.....

Lol.

She's from Virginia originally, so we are probably safe!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 01:26 AM (7F9te)

604 next time someone says the Civil War talk is boring or out of line, i will think of this.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 01:29 AM (/i32d)

605 @601 Bitter Clinger- I have the utmost respect for a Pastor Rhodes and Pastor Haviland. How I made it through my 8th grade year without those two guys killing me really showed what saints they were. Of course I was not allowed back at Reno Christian Academy the next year, but still.

Posted by: JROD at August 28, 2021 01:30 AM (0jZnq)

606 The original Norman French term is "bastige"
Posted by: Le Mikeuse at August 28, 2021 01:16 AM (QzkSJ)

Which surprisingly is easily recognized in the current Moronic lexicon as "bastages". I find linguistic history fascinating.

Posted by: Farmer at August 28, 2021 01:31 AM (55Qr6)

607
There is an explosion of RSV cases in young children. I was looking at the data for the UK, and here (we're behind the UK). Remember those tales about all the children in the hospital with the Coof? Lies. It's RSV.

That can hit chillins hard. It's out of season, too. What is going on? Hell if I know, and hell if the "experts" really know either. I think, and the people I read who seem to know their asses from holes in the ground think it's the lockdowns and Karen keeping her kids isolated and out of school.

Their innate immune systems haven't had much training, which is necessary to get them to adulthood and learn said immune system how to behave. So, RSV (which is something that can play havoc with chillins, unlike Coof) is running amok, because of our stupid public "health" policies.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 28, 2021 01:32 AM (Mzdiz)

608
RSV in chillins here in the Souf is exploding, I see. And out of season. Our public health idiots have fucked up shit beyond imagination.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 28, 2021 01:36 AM (Mzdiz)

609 Cousin F'ing huh? Man you guys are bored AF.
Posted by: JROD at August 28, 2021 01:25 AM (0jZnq)

You never met my first cousin. Hot AF. Still is.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 28, 2021 01:36 AM (2JVJo)

610 Their innate immune systems haven't had much training, which is necessary to get them to adulthood and learn said immune system how to behave. So, RSV (which is something that can play havoc with chillins, unlike Coof) is running amok, because of our stupid public "health" policies.

......

Just had this conversation with someone tonight.

I think God ingrained in us as mindless infants and toddlers to put everything in our mouths because it built immunity to the world around us.

Same thing with the childish enjoyment of playing in the dirt/mud. Build that immune system.

What doesn't the kill you, makes you stronger.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 01:36 AM (7F9te)

611 @605 JRID- I was a model child in private school until 8th grade.

Then pops moved me to the pub schools and sh*t went sideways.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 01:38 AM (7F9te)

612 "Hot" cousins? You're lucky! Mine are... almost as homely as I am. Yeeeesh.

Plus, none are even close to my age so no-go, even with grocery bags!

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 01:40 AM (dB4Iz)

613 Alright. Work adrenaline has finally worn off.

Night Horde.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 01:41 AM (7F9te)

614 When I was a young-un in Southeast Asia (Thailand and Laos) for my first 5 & 1/4 years), I contracted scarlet fever and German measles (rubella). Survived both (perhaps obviously), and then got the couple-times-a-year flu or whatever growing up in Virginia, but as an adult, pretty healthy. I did get a flu shot in the late ninenies, which gave me the flu, but other than that, just a couple of days here and there. Must be the cannabis. That stuff's a panacea for everything. ;->

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 28, 2021 01:41 AM (KAi1n)

615 next time someone says the Civil War talk is boring or out of line, i will think of this.
Posted by: Quint

Lie back and think of the ONT?

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 28, 2021 01:42 AM (KAi1n)

616 @605 JRID- I was a model child in private school until 8th grade.

Then pops moved me to the pub schools and sh*t went sideways.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 28, 2021 01:38 AM (7F9te)

a lot of people are good people in their own minds. They will rationalize anything. Those that had good parents are very lucky people. Even that doesn't mean everything is cheery. But no doubt it helps, no doubt it is a leg up in this world.

I know people who are so selfish they won't focus on their kids, they will focus on themselves. The same thing that likely messed them up, they will pass down. Others look at the mistakes of their parents and do the exact opposite. i think that group is pretty small, but that is the group we need to believe in.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 01:43 AM (/i32d)

617 And speaking of the Conqueror, by the time of his death, he was grossly fat. He died after his horse shied and he was thrown against the pommel (some sort of internal injury, I suppose). And when he was placed in his coffin, he was too fat for the lid to be closed. The chronicles tell us that, as the monks tried to close the lid, William's gut exploded and scattered purulent, disgusting liquid over people and filling the church with an unendurable stench.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 28, 2021 01:21

Well that's one way to go out, he was 59. It does seem a few of the rulers had little self control. William I and Henry VII come to mind but I know there were others. They got to eat the finest and did.

Posted by: Farmer at August 28, 2021 01:44 AM (55Qr6)

618 We could have. But we wanted breeder reactors to make bomb material we ended up never using.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 28, 2021 12:16 AM (SchxB)

Thorium is abundant in the Earth's crust, but rarely in such concentration to make it practical to mine. Uranium is less abundant, but it's chemistry is such that can form a wide variety of minerals which tend to be naturally concentrated by various natural means. Advantage: uranium.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2021 01:45 AM (BmgSk)

619 Hey, SFGoth. How are ya tonight?

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 01:45 AM (dB4Iz)

620 I had good public school teachers. Maybe some were bad or just average. The schools were pretty good though. I even would get into it with self described liberal teachers. Maybe they downgraded me in some way but I never believed it. I feel so sorry for kids these days. I wouldn't want to be a part of school systems today for anything. At least back in the day we were allowed to be ourselves.

I got away with shit you wouldn't believe really. I am not talking being a trouble maker, but resisting, and going against the flow. To be honest, I was rewarded for it.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 01:47 AM (/i32d)

621 Lie back and think of the ONT?

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 28, 2021 01:42 AM (KAi1n)

heh

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 01:47 AM (/i32d)

622 This is interesting:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Very-
worried-S-F-study-finds-virus-16417478.php

"Fully vaccinated people were more likely than unvaccinated people to be infected with variants carrying mutations associated with decreased antibody neutralization."

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 28, 2021 01:48 AM (KAi1n)

623
In relative terms, first cousin humping looks bad in terms of genetic problems. However, in absolute terms, it ain't so bad. Now, what gets you with inbreeding, is successive inbreeding. That is, cousin humps cousin. Then their offspring inbreed, and so on again.

A few cycles of that, and you degenerate quickly. But one offs aren't that bad. Just don't compound it.

There's a common level of "consanguinity". That is, in given area, what's the average level someone is related to another random stranger. IIRC, it's about 3rd-4th cousin level.

It turns out, for genetic purposes there is an optimum "consanguinity" for breeding purposes. To close, and things go south, but too far apart, and things go south as well. I want to say it's about 4th cousin level, but I'm not sure.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 28, 2021 01:49 AM (Mzdiz)

624 Been wondering lately about the Flu vax. I haven't had an all-out, body-aching, puking-sick, kill-me-now-please super-bug since, oh... the 80s.

Only started getting flu shots when they were offered at wrk, in the late 90s.

Thinking not gonna bother this year.

Thoughts?

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 01:50 AM (dB4Iz)

625 China to activate world's first ''clean' nuclear reactor in September-(liquid thorium)
-----
How far will the wind carry radio active material after the reactor blows up?
Posted by: Braenyard

If they are successful in installing an actual thorium reactor, no where. Doubt is severe, but the entire point of a thorium unit is one that shuts down on itself.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 28, 2021 01:50 AM (1t5dY)

626 Now, what gets you with inbreeding, is successive inbreeding.

You mean, like oh... say, 60-70 generations of it, as in the Middle East?

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 01:53 AM (dB4Iz)

627 RSV in chillins here in the Souf is exploding, I see. And out of season. Our public health idiots have fucked up shit beyond imagination.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 28, 2021 01:36 AM (Mzdiz)

RSV causes bronchiolitis and croup. The treatment has always been Tylenol and taking the kid into a small bathroom and running hot water to make the room steamy. Hot water vaporizers work too. Now parents are panicking and rushing kids to the ER, and doctors are admitting them to cold, dry, scary and germy hospitals. And hot water vaporizers can cause burns if the kid dumps one on its head, so they are deemed too dangerous to have in the house.

Posted by: WhyBanned at August 28, 2021 01:53 AM (YkawN)

628

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 01:54 AM (dB4Iz)

629 fk.

See ya

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 01:54 AM (dB4Iz)

630 >> Thoughts?

First of all, flu shots are not that dangerous. And they induce sterilizing immunity for the strains they target. Note the part about strains they target. Their effectiveness is not that hot because of the variation in guesses about what strains are targeted.

There was a recent paper, one of the authors of which was from Clempson, my alma mater, looking at UK which found no effect of the flu shots on hospitalization and death rates from the flu.

Meta analysis of all studies produces a confidence interval that goes through zero. IOW, there could be anything from zero to a small positive effect of the flu vaccines.

But, the flu vaccines ain't dangerous. Oh, they kill a few every year from allergic reactions, but just some tiny fraction.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 28, 2021 01:55 AM (Mzdiz)

631 I'm playing bathtub for my kitteh at the moment. She's awesome. I nicknamed her "the sniffer with a swiffer" because she sniffs *everything* and has a big, bushy tail. She's a black and tan, striped tabby with some bit of Maine coon in her face. I love those kinds of cats.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 28, 2021 01:56 AM (KAi1n)

632 Publius, do you supposed the powers that be would sneak mRNAcrap into this years' flu shots?

Go ahead, call me paranoid, but I'm no longer interested in any "optional" vax's now!

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 01:57 AM (dB4Iz)

633 There was a recent paper, one of the authors of which was from Clempson, my alma mater, looking at UK which found no effect of the flu shots on hospitalization and death rates from the flu.

your alma matter was Clempson?

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 01:57 AM (/i32d)

634 WRT the final Abraham Lincoln picture: Lincoln was stripped of his clothing to search for other wounds - this photograph shows him wearing at least a shirt. Also, how did he get all the equipment needed to take a photograph into the room where there were upwards of six people to take a candid shot?

WRT J. K. Rowing and Ron Weasley - as a person who has read several of the books aloud, I can testify that she wrote "Ron swore" a lot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 01:58 AM (LBiAf)

635 But, the flu vaccines ain't dangerous. Oh, they kill a few every year from allergic reactions, but just some tiny fraction.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 28, 2021 01:55 AM (Mzdiz)

I have never had a flu shot, and don't plan on starting now. Unless they come up with some sort of safe broad-spectrum anti-viral shot that will confer immunity to a wide range of viruses.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2021 01:59 AM (BmgSk)

636 SFGoth, I miss having a lap-kitty.

Outdoor kitty sprays, so can't let him in... but he's very affectionate with purrs and rubs. Better than none!

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 02:00 AM (dB4Iz)

637
Also, there is some evidence mounting of an OAS with successive flu shots over the years. OAS = original antigenic sin, something I've learned about reading people who know their asses from holes in the ground and about all this coof-related stuff.

OAS has to do with successive "priming" of your immune system against antigens that are very close together. Your immune system tends to remember the old versions and not change to exactly match the new antigens.

So, there is some evidence that if you get successive flu shots every year for years on year, that OAS effect keeps your immune system from shifting to the new targeted strains properly.

So, efficacy of the response to the latest and greatest flu shot may wane over time.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 28, 2021 02:01 AM (Mzdiz)

638 WRT J. K. Rowing and Ron Weasley - as a person who has read several of the books aloud, I can testify that she wrote "Ron swore" a lot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 01:58 AM (LBiAf)

the nose bothered me. The key thing is it didn't look like him. But I am no internet sleuth. My first reaction is no. I could be wrong though.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:02 AM (/i32d)

639
But, the flu vaccines ain't dangerous. Oh, they kill a few every year from allergic reactions, but just some tiny fraction.
Posted by: publius

What's the fractional advantage there of versus just not being overweight or otherwise immuno-compromised?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 28, 2021 02:02 AM (1t5dY)

640 Thanks, publius! Interesting...

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 02:04 AM (dB4Iz)

641 Ok. Back to teh barrel. Perchance to sleep.

G'nite!

Posted by: JQ, a hick in the sticks at August 28, 2021 02:06 AM (dB4Iz)

642 OK, folks, work done and bed beckons.

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 28, 2021 02:06 AM (2JVJo)

643 captain, any time you want talk the Civil War I am up for it. It doesn't have to be tonight, but if you want to g o in on a subject, just bring it up.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:08 AM (/i32d)

644 Well, past 0100 here. Time for bed. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 28, 2021 02:08 AM (BmgSk)

645 adios AOP

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:09 AM (/i32d)

646 captain, any time you want talk the Civil War I am up for it. It doesn't have to be tonight, but if you want to g o in on a subject, just bring it up.
Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:08 AM (/i32d)
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Well, as I was talking to my pards earlier this evening, another friend and I were sorta kinda working on a grand strategic ACW game that would have involved the politics of the war. Say that generals had political ratings that forced you to give them important commands, like B. F. Butler, say. They'd be hard to get rid of and promoting other generals in their place, until they'd reach a certain status, would be difficult.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:11 AM (LBiAf)

647 I have one for you Captain, if not for tonight, for another time. What books have you read that stand out to you? Which books would you advise others to read?

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:12 AM (/i32d)

648
Me, and for me, I've decided from that latest study and the meta analysis and OAS stuff, that I'm not gonna bother with flu shots from now one unless and until some really bad flu might come along.

I've never had the flu since my early 20s. I've been getting flu shots every year since my late 30s. But, no more.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 28, 2021 02:13 AM (Mzdiz)

649 Well, as I was talking to my pards earlier this evening, another friend and I were sorta kinda working on a grand strategic ACW game that would have involved the politics of the war. Say that generals had political ratings that forced you to give them important commands, like B. F. Butler, say. They'd be hard to get rid of and promoting other generals in their place, until they'd reach a certain status, would be difficult.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:11 AM (LBiAf)

A high school friend an I played Pea Ridge one time. I doubt I would have known about the battle if not for that game. Like I have said, I am way too focused on the Eastern Theater.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:14 AM (/i32d)

650 Outdoor kitty sprays, so can't let him in... but he's very affectionate with purrs and rubs. Better than none!
Posted by: JQ

Has he been fixed? That might help. Years ago, the big street tabby eventually chose me but he never sprayed. He was fixed.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 28, 2021 02:15 AM (KAi1n)

651 >> Publius, do you supposed the powers that be would sneak mRNAcrap into this years' flu shots?

Funny you mention that. I was arguing that with my dear Miley just the other day. I said well, they may be useless, but they're not dangerous. She said I might to stop my parents from getting the flu shots 'cause they might try to sneak in the mRNA Coof shit in em. I said that would be a criminal act far beyond anything I could imagine anyone would try.

She gave me a look. What do you know now? And you still say that? My dear Miley may have a point, I must say.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 28, 2021 02:17 AM (Mzdiz)

652 I have one for you Captain, if not for tonight, for another time. What books have you read that stand out to you? Which books would you advise others to read?
Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:12 AM (/i32d)
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I would recommend as the best single-volume history of the ACW McPherson's "Battle Cry of Freedom". Anything by Catton cannot go wrong. Gordon Rhea's four-volume study of the Overland Campaign is another good set. Anything by Stephen Sears is a good bet. Also, Fishel's "The Secret War for the Union" about the intelligence side of the war (and his conclusions about the Pinkertons and Little Mac may bring you up short).

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:18 AM (LBiAf)

653 it is crazy how much politics played a part in that war. The Union army, the US Army, was very conservative politically. Back then it mean the highest ranks were mostly Democrats. Lincoln made sure enough Republicans got commands, and many of them were disdained at least in the AOP.

One thing that has always stood out to me is soldiers on both sides hated a general who was a political or religious zealot, that was bad at his job. They didn't care what your views were, they only cared if you used them properly and did not waste them in battle.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:18 AM (/i32d)

654 OK, folks, work done and bed beckons.
Hope you all have a lovely weekend.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 28, 2021 02:06

Same here MP. To sleep, to dream, aye...

Posted by: Farmer at August 28, 2021 02:18 AM (55Qr6)

655 A high school friend an I played Pea Ridge one time. I doubt I would have known about the battle if not for that game. Like I have said, I am way too focused on the Eastern Theater.
Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:14 AM (/i32d)
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Unfortunately, that's one of the SPI "Great Battles" games that I do not possess.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:19 AM (LBiAf)

656 One thing that has always stood out to me is soldiers on both sides hated a general who was a political or religious zealot, that was bad at his job. They didn't care what your views were, they only cared if you used them properly and did not waste them in battle.
Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:18 AM (/i32d)
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The boys certainly loathed General Pope.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:20 AM (LBiAf)

657 The boys certainly loathed General Pope.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:20 AM (LBiAf)

yes

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:21 AM (/i32d)

658 When i see "Eastern theater", i think 1941-1945 and halfway around the world.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 28, 2021 02:27 AM (KAi1n)

659 er, say. They'd be hard to get rid of and promoting other generals in their place, until they'd reach a certain status, would be difficult.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:11 AM (LBiAf)

I have always had a soft spot for Warren and even Howard. For sure they were not great leaders, but they had a lot going against them. The Germans in the AOP too were kind of treated like shit.

Sickles might have been the most political general, at least in the East. I know people can get really bitter about war history, I recall that when talking to a Russian about Trotsky. But Sickles was probably one of the most interesting people in that war if you love drama and twists and turns.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:27 AM (/i32d)

660 Like I have said, I am way too focused on the Eastern Theater.
Posted by: Quint

Eastern Front is were action is, comrade.

Posted by: Field Marshal Zhukov at August 28, 2021 02:28 AM (KCbdU)

661 When i see "Eastern theater", i think 1941-1945 and halfway around the world.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 28, 2021 02:27 AM (KAi1n)

it depends on your interests. In the ACW, the Western theater was in Tennessee.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:29 AM (/i32d)

662 They gave us John Pope our patience to tax, Hurrah, hurrah
They gave us John Pope our patience to tax, Hurrah, hurrah
They gave us John Pope our patience to tax
He said in the West he'd seen naught but gray backs
And we'll all drink stone blind
Johnny, fill up the bowl

He said his headquarters was in the saddle, hurrah, hurrah
He said his headquarters was in the saddle, hurrah, hurrah
He said his headquarters was in the saddle
But Stonewall Jackson made him skedaddle
And we'll all drink stone blind
Johnny fill up the bowl.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:32 AM (LBiAf)

663 Night all.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 28, 2021 02:33 AM (KAi1n)

664 I would recommend as the best single-volume history of the ACW McPherson's "Battle Cry of Freedom". Anything by Catton cannot go wrong. Gordon Rhea's four-volume study of the Overland Campaign is another good set. Anything by Stephen Sears is a good bet. Also, Fishel's "The Secret War for the Union" about the intelligence side of the war (and his conclusions about the Pinkertons and Little Mac may bring you up short).

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:18 AM (LBiAf)

you are definitely a Union man. My family has owned Catton for ages. I have always enjoyed reading his works. i am also a huge Sears fan. I have read his book on Gettysburg and listened to the tapes so many times I think I can recite many parts.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:33 AM (/i32d)

665 The Rhea works sound interesting. I have top check into those. The Gettysburg book that every park ranger is required to know at some point is Coddington's Gettysburg, a Study in Command. It is basically the text book for the NPS.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:35 AM (/i32d)

666 I have always had a soft spot for Warren and even Howard. For sure they were not great leaders, but they had a lot going against them. The Germans in the AOP too were kind of treated like shit.

Sickles might have been the most political general, at least in the East. I know people can get really bitter about war history, I recall that when talking to a Russian about Trotsky. But Sickles was probably one of the most interesting people in that war if you love drama and twists and turns.
Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:27 AM (/i32d)
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I like Warren, I think he got the raw deal at Five Forks. If there was any time he should have been relieved, it was around Spotsylvania.

Sickles at least had the military virtue of pugnacity At Falling Waters, Meade had the misfortune to have all his most aggressive generals dead or incapacitated.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:35 AM (LBiAf)

667 The Rhea works sound interesting. I have top check into those. The Gettysburg book that every park ranger is required to know at some point is Coddington's Gettysburg, a Study in Command. It is basically the text book for the NPS.
Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:35 AM (/i32d)
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Coddington has been the standard work for a lot of years. It's a good 'un, but Sears' work is informed by Fishel's work on military intelligence.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:37 AM (LBiAf)

668 I'm turning in. Good night, Horde.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at August 28, 2021 02:40 AM (KCbdU)

669 Sears was spectacular with the BMI stuff. In many ways, it showed the Confederates never had a chance. This is not Lost Cause stuff, it is the reality that they got beat.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:42 AM (/i32d)

670 Sears was spectacular with the BMI stuff. In many ways, it showed the Confederates never had a chance. This is not Lost Cause stuff, it is the reality that they got beat.
Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:42 AM (/i32d)
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The Southern Historical Society started up just after the ACW as a way of preserving Bobby Lee's reputation. The Lost Cause was fallout from that.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:46 AM (LBiAf)

671 I am reading a book on Lee's last years right now. He didn't write much about those times, and he didn't last very long. That is why anyone who can gleam anything from them is doing a service to history.

Lee was like Chamberlain, but the exact opposite.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:47 AM (/i32d)

672 he Southern Historical Society started up just after the ACW as a way of preserving Bobby Lee's reputation. The Lost Cause was fallout from that.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 02:46 AM (LBiAf)

yeah, that has it's own history. I am always open to learn, that is always the case. I have changed my views over the years but only because I have been convinced about what is the true history. I personally think Lee was as important during the war as he was made after the war. Sure some made him "The Marble Man", but that does not change the reality of his importance to his army and to the nation.

Today people fight over Lee that don't know anything about him or what he meant to this country. I don't say that lightly, it is not for me to tell people what to think. But I agree the Lost Cause was a thing, and it is likely the people who tried to control the history were the wrong people. Just like today, we have the wrong people trying to control history. Just my opinion here.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:52 AM (/i32d)

673 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at August 28, 2021 02:52 AM (nzEdf)

674 Like to see what I missed, ok heading upstairs

Posted by: Skip at August 28, 2021 02:55 AM (znIQ9)

675 I saw a conservative today on a famous conservative site compare what happened the other day to Little Big Horn and Lee at Gettysburg. I think the guy meant well and he is likely quite educated. But I know he knows nothing about Lee and Gettysburg.

I don't call out people trying to do a gotcha because I studied something more. But that one bothered me. I know you focus on the West and for sure that is where the war was won. But what people think about Gettysburg and Pickett's charge astounds me.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:55 AM (/i32d)

676 the key about Pickett's Charge is Lee made a mistake. That happens in war all the time. Lee was let down by all three of his corps commanders. That is a rare event when all of your most trusted men let you down. He was also in ill health, that is a fact.

People say he was crazy to command a frontal assault, but his army did several of those and won during that war. The USA did frontal assaults and won too.

The key to it is Lee moved on, he made one of the greatest retrograde movements in history the next day. Those tactics are still studied in war schools to this day.

The Overland campaign didn't start until almost a year later as I recall. But so many think Lee and Pickett's Charge lost the war. Hell, if anything, the surrender of Vicksburg the next day lost the war.

But the USA lost more men after Gettysburg than before it. I am not sure what other number can make this more clear. Pickett's Charge happened, and then they moved on. We still study it because it is interesting, they didn't have the time to worry about it because other issues were at hand.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 03:06 AM (/i32d)

677 I don't call out people trying to do a gotcha because I studied something more. But that one bothered me. I know you focus on the West and for sure that is where the war was won. But what people think about Gettysburg and Pickett's charge astounds me.
Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 02:55 AM (/i32d)
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Wey-ull, I actually am better versed in the East than I am the West. My pards in the Compuserve Civil War forum, back in the day, would jokingly say that the War was won in the West, after four years of heavy skirmishing in the East.

But in all seriousness, the beginning of the end of the war was Grant being given overall command and, especially, his friend Sherman given command in the southeast, that a coordinated effort could effect the final end of the war.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 03:08 AM (LBiAf)

678 the key about Pickett's Charge is Lee made a mistake. That happens in war all the time. Lee was let down by all three of his corps commanders. That is a rare event when all of your most trusted men let you down.
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Lee believed that the fighting was so heavy on the flanks that the Federal center must be weak. That was his thinking at the time. He didn't know that Sixth Corps was up and ready to reinforce any place in the line.

The most haunting line I know from the ACW is in Longstreet's recollection of the start of the assault on July 3: "The men advanced with an elastic step, their eyes alight with hope."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 03:13 AM (LBiAf)

679 But in all seriousness, the beginning of the end of the war was Grant being given overall command and, especially, his friend Sherman given command in the southeast, that a coordinated effort could effect the final end of the war.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 03:08 AM (LBiAf)

no smoke blowing, but when I typed that I knew I went wrong lol. You know more about the West than I do, that is what I meant to say.

I agree about Grant and Sherman. Sherman always said he could never function without Grant and I believe that. I hold Grant in the highest esteem. It sucks that to many he is a punchline. To be honest, over the last hundred years, Lee has been more revered North and South.

Lee has been on five USA postage stamps. Lee's home at Arlington is a national shrine. I recall an interesting book about a liberal literature teacher at West Point around the time of 9/11. She was astounded the the cadets only wanted to learn about Lee. If you want the name of the book, I will pass it on.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 03:15 AM (/i32d)

680 No doubt today Lee is that part of history most are willing to give up and want to give up. I hope they don't give up on Grant, but they did that long ago.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 03:15 AM (/i32d)

681 The Civil War is the most important event in our history. It was the event that changed this country and impacted lives and memories more than any other event. Today most want to forget it. If the cost is people coming together, even a history lover like I would say it is wort it. The reality is destroying history is making things worse. So many Americans have no belief in America. While the rest of the world dreams of coming here, the people born and raised here think "meh".

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 03:20 AM (/i32d)

682 I agree about Grant and Sherman. Sherman always said he could never function without Grant and I believe that. I hold Grant in the highest esteem. It sucks that to many he is a punchline. To be honest, over the last hundred years, Lee has been more revered North and South.
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I am grieved to have to say that we here in Oregon have had to give up the only reenactment that we were to have this year. Clatsop County Fairgrounds reports that, due to a blocked tide gate, we are flooded out of the place we were to be on Labor Day weekend. We were to host, among other people, Curt Fields, who is the premier U. S. Grant reenactor in the country. To say this is a tragedy is, for me, to understate the issue. I met Curt two years ago when he came out here, and a finder reenactor, who knows his stuff, there can never be.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 03:22 AM (LBiAf)

683 The most haunting line I know from the ACW is in Longstreet's recollection of the start of the assault on July 3: "The men advanced with an elastic step, their eyes alight with hope."

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 03:13 AM (LBiAf)

Longstreet was a very able General. He was slow to act on day 2 and very reluctant on day 3. He was right about Picketts Charge, there is no doubt about that. But the problem is extrapolating from that. He was a poor army leader, he was best at corps command. When he got into politics it went poorly.

We both know Longstreet was never given his due. But I know for sure he was not a better leader than Lee, in fact, he was much worse and everyone who knew the two people would say that.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 03:24 AM (/i32d)

684 Jackson is one many Southerners pine about. A great battlefield commander, but no way could he command an army. Hell, he made Sherman seem placid. Jackson could never command a major army because he was too busy charging his subordinates with dereliction of duty.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 03:29 AM (/i32d)

685 We both know Longstreet was never given his due. But I know for sure he was not a better leader than Lee, in fact, he was much worse and everyone who knew the two people would say that.
Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 03:24 AM (/i32d)
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Longstreet was an excellent subordinate. None better. He would hit your as hard as he possibly could, given the opportunity. I've run the Peach Orchard/Little
Round Top scenario in TalonSoft's Gettysburg game, and what is striking is that there is nothing left back on the Confederate side. There are no supports. Everything is on the line.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 03:33 AM (LBiAf)

686 the premier U. S. Grant reenactor in the country. To say this is a tragedy is, for me, to understate the issue. I met Curt two years ago when he came out here, and a finder reenactor, who knows his stuff, there can never be.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 03:22 AM (LBiAf)

I am watching him.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 03:33 AM (/i32d)

687 Jackson is one many Southerners pine about. A great battlefield commander, but no way could he command an army. Hell, he made Sherman seem placid. Jackson could never command a major army because he was too busy charging his subordinates with dereliction of duty.
Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 03:29 AM (/i32d)
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Jackson is in many ways a mystery. He confounded the Federal commanders in the Valley, but led his troops into bloodletting on the Peninsula. Committed astonishing flanks maneuvers under Lee's orders at Chancellorsville. If he had survived to later in the war? Who knows?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 03:38 AM (LBiAf)

688 Way-ull, everyone seems to have gone to bed. So shall I. Sweet dreams, horde.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 04:03 AM (LBiAf)

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Jackson is in many ways a mystery. He confounded the Federal commanders in the Valley, but led his troops into bloodletting on the Peninsula. Committed astonishing flanks maneuvers under Lee's orders at Chancellorsville. If he had survived to later in the war? Who knows?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 28, 2021 03:38 AM (LBiAf)

Southernors always pine about if Jackson were in command at Gettysburg in place of Ewell. It is funny, A.P. Hill gets a USA fort but not Ewelll that I recall. Hill did next to nothing at Gettysburg.. The theory is he had a major disease, the social kind.

They pine about Jackson and I see what they are getting at. The movie Gettysburg and the much greater book "The Killer Angels" gets at that.

but Jackson was a hot head. He was charging his own men with insubordination while going into battle. The same reason General Garnet rode a horse though he knew he would be killed. He was charged as a coward and that stain in the Confederacy was the worst one possible. Garnet died to prove what everyone knew was false, was untrue.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 04:26 AM (/i32d)

690 I am not anti Jackson. Just like I am not anti Longstreet. But Lee was a different kind of General.

It is the same reason people love Patton but think less of Eisenhower. They don't understand THe Peter Principle. Lee was to Jackson as Eisenhower was to Patton. Same with Grant and Sherman. Sheridan yes, same thing goes., but I will never love Sheridan.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 04:30 AM (/i32d)

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