Even David Frum Now Calls the Entire Project to Nation-Build Afghanistan "Hopeless"

Update: 10 Marines reported dead. Katie Pavlich hears it's 11, and expected to rise still further.

Update: 11 Marines dead, 1 Navy medic dead.

Update:

8 Third explosion rocks Kabul

At least 11 US Marines, Navy Medic dead; Death toll exceeds 70

New threat reported at North Gate of airport

US officials report multiple US, civilian casualties

Suicide bomb explodes at Kabul airport gate, second explosion reported as car bomb

Taliban warned of potential terrorist threat

US State Dept warned Americans to "leave immediately" due to imminent threat

At least 3 US Marines injured

At least 12 civilians dead including kids

Gunfire reported

Posted by: SMOD

David Frum now says the US nation-building action in Afghanistan which he propagandized was always "hopeless."

Incredibly, he seems to be pretending he always knew this.

So he either is lying, because he's too narcissistic to admit he's ever made a mistake in judgment, or he's telling the truth, and admitting he concealed knowledge that a 20 year war was always "hopeless."

I've pointed this out before: Our Ruling Class is so egotistical that they'd much, much rather say they just lied monstrously than admit they were merely wrong.

Sean Davis just wrote about this disgraceful Gollum.

Days after the invasion of Iraq in 2003, which was initially sold as a necessary pre-emptive effort to secure deadly weapons of mass destruction that Saddam Hussein planned to use against the American people, National Review ran an op-ed by former George W. Bush speechwriter David Frum attacking everyone on the Right who opposed the war as "unpatriotic conservatives."
In the nearly two decades since it was published, the column has become something of a Rosetta Stone for deciphering the underlying motivations and mindset of the most ardent proponents of the idea that stable democracies can be imposed by military force from the top down. Like an insect captured in amber, Frum's essay is a near-perfect specimen of the neoconservative id, equal parts delusion and sanctimony.
Frum attacked legendary conservative columnist Robert Novak for correctly predicting that America’s foray into Afghanistan would be a "futile slaughter"; he attacked Pat Buchanan for correctly predicting that America's military might wouldn't be enough to overcome its ignorance of Afghanistan's culture and history; and he characterized the entire movement of conservatives who opposed the neoconservative plan to democratize the world through military conquest as Vichy apologists whose sole aim was to stand up for terrorist suicide bombers. And after tarring war opponents as Nazi collaborators, Frum transitioned to tarring anyone who opposed open borders and unchecked immigration as racist relics pining for the return of the KKK.
"They began by hating neoconservatives," Frum wrote. "They came to hate their party and this president. They have finished by hating their country."
"War is a great clarifier," Frum concluded. "The paleoconservatives have chosen--and the rest of us must choose too. In a time of danger, they have turned their backs on their country. Now we turn our backs on them."
Frum, who was sent packing from his perch at the American Enterprise Institute for his refusal to do much of anything in exchange for his six-figure sinecure there, was right about one thing: war is a great clarifier.

Davis notes that after the successful invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, and the overthrow of the governments in those countries, George Bush then shifted the goals of the war effort to reshaping Iraq and Afghanistan into western secular liberal democracies.

And he used Frum-style rhetoric to get the troops to fall in line:

The subtext of Bush's address was no different than the overt charge leveled by Frum: if you opposed the bait-and-switch from defeating terrorists to nation-building all over the Middle East, either because you believed it be contrary to the purpose of the military or you believed it was futile and doomed to failure, you were racist and xenophobic.

Note that this was a President who had run for president largely on a critique of the liberal interventionists' keen interest in "nation-building," in using our military as social workers, local beat-cops, and under-fire construction workers to remake foreign countries to look more like Greenwich, Connecticut.

And now here he was saying, "Nation-building now, nation-building tomorrow, nation-building forever!"

And expecting us to go along with it.

Which, I admit to my great chagrin, I personally did. I had reservations, I did notice the wrenching, lurching change in Bush's (and the GOP's, and my own) position on nation-building, but I Fell In Line as commanded and supported the New Soviet Nation-Building Program.

As we all now know, having witnessed the post-invasion debacle in Iraq, the disastrous Arab Spring, the pre-meditated murder of four Americans in Libya, the rise and spread of ISIS, and the ignominious fall of Kabul in Afghanistan, the utopian vision of Frum, Bush, and Krauthammer was a lie. It was a lie that cost two decades, trillions of dollars, and tens of thousands of American lives and limbs, and it was an incalculably destructive lie that was sold by smearing its realist opponents as condescending, racist know-nothings who lacked both the brain and the heart to understand how the new world truly worked.
The fall of Afghanistan should have shocked the architects of its failure back into reality. Instead, they've moved on as if nothing much happened at all and are now arguing that America should, nay must, allow tens or even hundreds of thousands of Afghan refugees into America immediately. Being wrong means never having to say you’re sorry and being wrong about every failed foreign policy endeavor of this century apparently means you get to blather your way past America's worst defeat since Vietnam so you can instead talk about the need for open borders. The solution for failing to export American democracy to Afghanistan, you see, is to import Afghanistan into America. And wouldn't you know it, the same arguments and epithets deployed against opponents of America's failed wars are now being deployed against opponents of unchecked immigration. Moral blackmail is the stock-in-trade of the failed internationalist.

How discredited is Wilsonian Idealism now?

Well, discredited enough that David Frum is pretending he was always against it.

And discredited enough that National Review is now turning against it.

The Fall of Afghanistan Calls for a Return to Realism
By DANIEL TENREIRO

The dismal end to our two-decade Afghan misadventure should discredit the liberal-internationalist project for good.

National Review continues living up to its new motto: Yesterday's news, Tomorrow.

Our recent escapades in the Middle East... started with a clear mission but eventually aimed to remake the region in the image of the West. The neoconservatives who spearheaded the war effort saw the spread of Lockean liberalism as the U.S.'s raison d'etre, while Wilsonian liberals saw the defense of democracy and human rights as a prerequisite for world peace.
The Taliban;s capture of Kabul has rung the death knell for both these visions of American foreign policy, not only because democracy in Afghanistan failed, but because it failed as a direct result of the war's ideological mission. It is hard to believe now that, at the start of the war, a coalition of U.S. forces and local militia defeated the Taliban swiftly and easily. Two months into the conflict, an alliance of Tajik, Hazara, Uzbek, and Pashtun warlords had, with the help of the U.S., expelled Taliban fighters from all of their major strongholds and sent Osama bin Laden fleeing.
It would have been possible then to declare victory and return Afghanistan to the system of tribal patronage that governed the country before the Soviet invasion in 1979 -- under either a restored monarchy or a coalition of warlords. This approach would have required accepting uncomfortable truths about ethnic allegiance and the limits of liberal values. For the true believers in the national-security apparatus, it would have undermined U.S. legitimacy by conceding that American ideals cannot be readily universalized. So, in one of the many ironies of the conflict, the U.S. opted to complete the project initiated by the Soviets: the construction of an Afghan nation-state. Democratic reform would create "an Afghanistan that is free from . . . evil and is a better place in which to live," George W. Bush said at the time.

LOL:

For their part, neoconservative commentators see the fall of Afghanistan as a failure of American will: "Afghanistan is your fault," writes Tom Nichols, the world’s expert on everything. On this view, if we'd only stayed a little longer, built a few more roads, and trained a few more platoons, we could have created a functioning Afghan state. But the reality is that no amount of money or training can fashion a liberal nation-state from a hodgepodge of ethnic tribes with competing interests.

It's nice they're getting there now. But an apology to those who got there five years ago -- while being attacked by the neocons as insufficiently patriotic -- would not go amiss.

Perhaps now the neocons will stop their unsophisticated, ill-educated, childish, cultish worship of George W. Bush as a god and practice of Bushism and Kennebunkport "Konservatism" as a religion?

Dare I dream so large?

Posted by: Ace at 02:42 PM

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1 Fuck Biden and all the retards in this admin

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 26, 2021 01:41 PM (Phn3e)

2 Frum

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 01:42 PM (U41ue)

3 and First.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 26, 2021 01:42 PM (Phn3e)

4 I don't get the Italican references.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 01:42 PM (LvTSG)

5 It's nice they're getting there now. But an apology to those who got there five years ago -- while being attacked by the neocons as insufficiently patriotic -- would not go amiss.

Perhaps now the neocons will stop their unsophisticated, ill-educated, childish, cultish worship of George W. Bush as a god and practice of Bushism and Kennebunkport "Konservatism" as a religion?

Or dare I dream too large?

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I'll be okay without an apology as long as they welcome the Trump 2024 campaign with open arms.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 01:43 PM (LvTSG)

6 Frum would never lie. We just misunderstood the nuance.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 01:43 PM (wAnMi)

7 I wish somehow I could shit in my USB port and it land on National Review.

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2021 01:43 PM (yrol0)

8 Third explosion rocks Kabul
At least 11 US Marines, Navy Medic dead; Death toll exceeds 70
New threat reported at North Gate of airport
US officials report multiple US, civilian casualties
Suicide bomb explodes at Kabul airport gate, second explosion reported as car bomb
Taliban warned of potential terrorist threat
US State Dept warned Americans to "leave immediately" due to imminent threat
At least 3 US Marines injured
At least 12 civilians dead including kids
Gunfire reported

Posted by: SMOD at August 26, 2021 01:43 PM (RHGPo)

9 This would not be happening if they had stuck with the plan Trump came up with. But no.....can't give orangeman bad credit for anything.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 26, 2021 01:44 PM (JUOKG)

10
Navy medic or Navy corpseman?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 26, 2021 01:44 PM (pNxlR)

11 Funny and stomach churning at the same time

https://tinyurl.com/3chues7j

Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2021 01:44 PM (mbFEM)

12 It's literally the Chewbacca Defense.

Ladies and gentlemen of the supposed jury....

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2021 01:44 PM (9h4bD)

13 Fuck Biden and all the retards in this admin

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 26, 2021 01:41 PM (Phn3e)

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And all his voters. Even the dead ones.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:44 PM (ptqGC)

14 Willowed:

Joe Biden: A True American Nero.

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 26, 2021 01:44 PM (WmGrA)

15 And the neocon sat, and the lines on the map moved from side to side.

Posted by: Roy at August 26, 2021 01:44 PM (Ti+Tv)

16 Eggs for the omelet.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (AVDhF)

17 I wish somehow I could shit in my USB port and it land on National Review.
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2021 01:43 PM (yrol0)

How would anyone tell?

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (U41ue)

18 The Barrel is hungry.

BunkerintheBurbs, go to the Barrel. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (u82oZ)

19 So, when China invades Afghanistan, what's Frum going to say?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (LvTSG)

20 Which, I admit to my great chagrin, I personally did. I had reservations, I did notice the wrenching, lurching change in Bush's (and the GOP's, and my own) position on nation-building, but I Fell In Line as commanded and supported the New Soviet Nation-Building Program.
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I was on the fence about it, but I supported it, too. I thought - wrongly - that victory was a precondition for the exercise. We learned quickly - certainly by 2006 or 2008 - that this was not the case. We were "nation building" in the absence of victory. It was obviously futile and insane, and my support for it broke down in accordance with that conclusion.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (Jsjd7)

21 Will we ever truly be rid of the neocons? They never learn.

Posted by: brak at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (3INIB)

22 It is not the fact that we failed at nation building. It can be done. It has been done.

The problem is that we tried to take a short cut by pivoting to nation building and winning hearts and minds while the population we were trying to change the culture of was still in love with their own culture. They had not been defeated, hell, not even in the slightest, before we declared victory and tried to move on.

Posted by: astonerii at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (VcZlJ)

23 Joe Biden: A True American Nero.
Posted by: Joe Mama at August 26, 2021 01:44 PM (WmGrA)

LOL

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (wAnMi)

24 Do I dare check Jake Tapper's Twitter feed?

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (ptqGC)

25 In 2018, Frum published Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic, about the dangers posed by the Trump presidency to American democracy.
In 2020, he published a second volume about the Trump era and its consequences, Trumpocalypse: Restoring American Democracy.

Todays FOAD a slow, miserable, horrible death list:
David Frum

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (yrol0)

26 Seal the Borders. Bring our Troops home. ALL OF THEM.

The rest of the world has pretty much told us to F off. OK, you're on your own.

America became great and independent through taking care of itself. Even G. Washington warned of foreign entanglements.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 26, 2021 01:46 PM (oHd/0)

27 "We tried it because we're too awesome to know better" is a helluva take.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2021 01:46 PM (Jsjd7)

28 Don't worry. Joey B. isn't going to do anything that the Chinese do not want.

Posted by: shibumi at August 26, 2021 01:46 PM (4EIFd)

29 And Frum is a fucking Canadian!

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2021 01:46 PM (uUDKV)

30 My Sunday school teacher is convinced that the Horsemen are on the loose
He may be right

Posted by: Jmel at August 26, 2021 01:46 PM (6waa0)

31 So you're saying that butter is NOT a food group?

Posted by: David Frum at August 26, 2021 01:46 PM (flINI)

32 BunkerintheBurbs, go to the Barrel. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (u82oZ)
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I was framed!

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (Phn3e)

33 I don't want to Monday morning quarterback but buying that Titanic passage? Probably a mistake.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (d9FiS)

34
How would anyone tell?
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (U41ue)

I was gonna eat a pound of raw spannish peanuts!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (yrol0)

35 Cindy McCain
@cindymccain
He will be a commander in chief that the finest fighting force in the history of the world can depend on, because he knows what it is like to send a child off to fight.
4:45 PM · Sep 22, 2020

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (MFZ8i)

36 Do I dare check Jake Tapper's Twitter feed?
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (ptqGC)

You're a glutton for punishment.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (U41ue)

37 33 I don't want to Monday morning quarterback but buying that Titanic passage? Probably a mistake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (d9FiS)

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"Waiter! More champagne. And plenty of ice."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (LvTSG)

38 The Iraq war was inevitable. We had basically committed ourselves to maintaining stability in the region and ensuring Kuwaiti and Saudi independence. We were going to keep trying to maintain the no-fly zones and embargo, requiring the support of a status quo that was increasingly at odds with reality, or we would have to remove Saddam.

The reality is that the bad decision was less the invasion and attempt to prop up a friendly Iraqi government, it was the bad decisions made by short-sighted politicians in the decades prior.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (jOcSX)

39 Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

Navy Corpsman. Enlisted medic embedded in the Marines, wearing Marine uniform.

If it was a Navy Doctor, he would be in scrubs or a Navy uniform.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (u82oZ)

40 In his later years, Jerry Pournelle referred to Frum as "the egregious David Frum".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (a3Q+t)

41 "Waiter! More champagne. And plenty of ice."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (LvTSG)

I understood that reference.

Posted by: Jordan61, I am the 10% at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (Ez6QX)

42 Breaking911

We are awaiting a briefing from White House Press Sec. Jen Psaki after deadly attacks on U.S. Troops in Kabul

LIVESTREAM: https://tinyurl.com/yj5u7ucr

Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (cF8AT)

43 Biden is getting crucified in the comments over at the Daily Mail.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (NpAcC)

44 No words.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (8ft+D)

45 Types. Deletes.

Types. Deletes.

Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (mbFEM)

46 43 Biden is getting crucified in the comments over at the Daily Mail.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (NpAcC)

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But Trump.

Check and mate.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (LvTSG)

47 I fucking hate paper Americans telling us we're doing it wrong. this guy, Boot, Vindman, etc.

stfu new guy.

Posted by: x at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (oA+QO)

48 Convo at Tapper's Twitter feed:

"Is Biden to be blamed for US lives lost in Afghanistan?"

Response: "No. Stop it."

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (ptqGC)

49 @cindymccain
He will be a commander in chief that the finest fighting force in the history of the world can depend on, because he knows what it is like to send a child off to fight.
4:45 PM Sep 22, 2020
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (MFZ8i)
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How's his ass taste, Cindy?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (Jsjd7)

50 At least Joe shouldn't have too much trouble finding his way to Dover AFB; if I'm not mistaken it's in his neck of the woods.

Posted by: Ries Gorthanes at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (Ium52)

51 I am sick right now. I know that this is only going to get worse.

Posted by: Cheri at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (FGQ5G)

52 Too late for Ben Domenech to run, oh well....

Posted by: steevy at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (uUDKV)

53 As a professional historian, specifically a professional historian of modern Europe, I despise everything about the French Revolution.

But damn if this doesn't make me a little more sympathetic to storming the Bastille and setting up guillotines.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (bhRsz)

54 But........... But........... But............. Trump lied about Chocolate Jesus !!!!!!!

Posted by: janes at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (24+Vp)

55 I weep for my country. Dark days.

Posted by: PA Dutchman at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (8QLEx)

56 The only places where the US has successfully nation built is Germany and Japan after WWII. And I don't know why exactly it worked in either country. It may have been because both cultures were used to following orders.

But it may also be because we were not nice about it at all.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (Y5qcH)

57
The chickenhawks, such as david frum, are poking their heads out, testing the waters for a war revival in Muslamastan.

Posted by: Soothsayer with hair colored yellow at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (G/QLV)

58 Funny and stomach churning at the same time
https://tinyurl.com/3chues7j
Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2021 01:44 PM (mbFEM)

This - this Cooper thing - THAT'S what was important to the Biden administration. Telling us to get the jab. Telling us to wear masks. Having some prancing little cross dressing lisping faerie shoved in our faces. All while they were planning the wholesale slaughter of OUR MARINES.

DIAF Joe & Co.
And Cooper.
And for the love of God, PAY PER VIEW please. The proceeds can go to the families of those you've killed.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (wAnMi)

59 I am sick, I admit I wanted a hard crash, but it's never the people who should pay the
price that actually do, in this life anyway. Not sure Dante pictured what is going to happen to Joe and company, including his enablers in the media.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (oWBc3)

60
It's not that a 20-year war is hopeless. It's that a 20-year project to attempt to turn a dark age hell hole into Jeffersonian republican democracy without denazifying Islam by making the teaching and dissemination of it punishable by death was hopeless.

Hell, we could have won this thing in a few weeks by just non-stop, round the clock carpet bombing of everything that stood over 3 feet high.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (s2VJv)

61 I wish somehow I could shit in my USB port and it land on National Review.
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2021 01:43 PM (yrol0)

How would anyone tell?
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (U41ue)

The writing would improve?

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (B0mGw)

62 The lesson of Eurasia is not that Oceania is washed up as a superpower but that we have always never been at war.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (ZOfsH)

63 53 As a professional historian, specifically a professional historian of modern Europe, I despise everything about the French Revolution.

But damn if this doesn't make me a little more sympathetic to storming the Bastille and setting up guillotines.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (bhRsz)

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I liked their taste in headwear.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (LvTSG)

64 BunkerintheBurbs

Could be. It's like a grudge pregnancy. Someone had it in for you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 26, 2021 01:50 PM (u82oZ)

65 All of "Conservative Inc" as ace labels them, they should be piled up doused in gasoline and lit on fire. Fuck all of them motherfuckers for bastardizing what conservatism is and fuck all the idiots, including those that foolishly attack conservatism, a sound political philosophy and buy into their narrative of what conservatism is, you should all be punched right in your stupid fucking faces.

Posted by: JROD at August 26, 2021 01:50 PM (0jZnq)

66 "I Fell In Line as commanded and supported the New Soviet Nation-Building Program."

Me too. And we mercilessly, gleefully mocked all the opponents of the war.

Posted by: gp at August 26, 2021 01:50 PM (qpX6U)

67 Frum is a nasty cork sucker. He sucked as a speech writer and his presence at NR foretold of their direction.

Posted by: Mishdog at August 26, 2021 01:50 PM (cqAUI)

68 Much as I enjoy watching the GOPe flame out spectacularly, one thing I want to be careful of is giving the lefty media a win here.

So against the war were they, that they stopped the daily death counters and pictures of flag draped coffins on January 21st 2009.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 01:50 PM (U41ue)

69 Well. It seems that Let It Burn or Make It Burn are decided then.

Pray.

Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2021 01:50 PM (mbFEM)

70 How's his ass taste, Cindy?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2021 01:48 PM (Jsjd7)

Like her beer.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:50 PM (ptqGC)

71 The only places where the US has successfully nation built is Germany and Japan after WWII. And I don't know why exactly it worked in either country. It may have been because both cultures were used to following orders.

But it may also be because we were not nice about it at all.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (Y5qcH)

In both cases the cultures were a lot closer to ours. Germany was western culture. And Japan had gone through periods of modernization such that we had something to work with.

The problem with Afghanistan is that we weren't willing to commit long-term to making changes. We kept trying 1-2 year plans in the hopes that things would calm down enough that we could justify leaving.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 26, 2021 01:51 PM (jOcSX)

72 Willowed:

Joe Biden: A True American Nero.
Posted by: Joe Mama at August 26, 2021 01:44 PM (WmGrA)

Okay, I nominate threadwinner on that one.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 26, 2021 01:51 PM (bhRsz)

73 People I have a great idea............ Let's abandon Bagram AFB and give it to the Children of Allah and then hide in the middle of Third World Shit Hole City and hope nothing happens !

What does everyone think about this idea ???

Posted by: janes at August 26, 2021 01:51 PM (24+Vp)

74 Frump proves he was the perfect speech writer for Bush.

Posted by: Mean Tweets at August 26, 2021 01:51 PM (vGJY7)

75 >>So he either is lying, because he's too narcissistic to admit he's ever made a mistake in judgment, or he's telling the truth, and admitting he concealed knowledge that a 20 year war was always "hopeless."

Holy Sh#t, Frum is a shameless warmonger.
Why can't we revoke his citizenship and send him back to Canada already?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 26, 2021 01:51 PM (bDqIh)

76 Bush worship or " repair the world?"

Posted by: Garland at August 26, 2021 01:51 PM (ONvIw)

77 I did NOT support going into Afghanistan. I knew the Democrats would enter office sooner or later and screw it up just like LBJ.

Posted by: Vic at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (mpXpK)

78 Why can't we revoke his citizenship and send him back to Canada already?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 26, 2021 01:51 PM (bDqIh)
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By way of Afghanistan.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (2SdPm)

79 Dear Lord, please give strength to the families of the dead Marines and Navy medic.

Thank you.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (ptqGC)

80 All those young Marines.
Perhaps kids my son went through boot camp
With.

I can't.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (8ft+D)

81 Checking the MSM websites, they're trying to cover for Biden. Won't say how many Marines have died.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (G0vdT)

82 >But damn if this doesn't make me a little more sympathetic to storming the Bastille and setting up guillotines.
Posted by: Dr. T at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (bhRsz)

Yeah, you can sympathize with how it got to that point, even though it went off the rails very quickly.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (DXFDM)

83 Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (jOcSX)

You don't create stability by occupying other countries, UNLESS you are willing to just take the damn thing over and make it part of your own country.

Which of course, we were not willing to do. History is pretty clear on that occupations become a Net Negative in the long term. Even after HUNDREDS of years, people in Colonies don't like most European countries. Hell, look at China, Japan, and Korea's histories. Look at the ex Warsaw Pact Nations.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (oHd/0)

84 @56

>>But it may also be because we were not nice about it at all.

The Japanese Constitution was drafted by the US and imposed on the Japanese by the US, which they still largely operate under.

Just saying.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (9h4bD)

85 74 Frump proves he was the perfect speech writer for Bush.
Posted by: Mean Tweets at August 26, 2021 01:51 PM (vGJY7)

There is an axis of evil. Unfortunately one third of that triad is the American Left and everyone who goes along and enables it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (s2VJv)

86 The proper response to 9/11 would have been to H-bomb the Al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan, and then send the following message to the UN: "Are there any questions or any smart ass remarks?"

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (FCsYG)

87 I can't.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (8ft+D)

Dammit it got dusty in here.

Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (mbFEM)

88 Sam Faddis on with Bannon ... says no way an ISIS cell is running around Kabul without the OK from Taliban (who have checkpoints everywhere) ... so he thinks the car bombs are with Taliban complicity, at least. Their message is Get out Now. (Biden is complying, stranding ? thousands of Americans)

(maybe Taliban would claim innocence so blame ISIS? idk ... or at least Team Biden might spin it as "just a couple rogue ISIS guys from Cincinnati ... not their horrible "planning")

Posted by: illiniwek at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (Cus5s)

89 sniffybigtoe

The guiding principle that works: Decisive victories lead to long peaces.

We and especially the Soviet Red Army brought personal pain and rape, mostly rape, to the Germans. And we dropped every atomic weapon on hand on Japan, with plans for 10-15 more.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (u82oZ)

90 Holy Sh#t, Frum is a shameless warmonger.
Why can't we revoke his citizenship and send him back to Canada already?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 26, 2021 01:51 PM (bDqIh)

Breaking news from 2003

I'm guilty of buying their bullshit back then too, but Buchannan was unpleasant

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (mR6Gs)

91 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (Zz0t1)

92 4th and 5th explosions reported. Zerohedge is pretty up to date on breaking

Posted by: Pudding Head at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (AApC4)

93 But it may also be because we were not nice about it at all.

We killed a significant portion of the male German/Japanese population in WWII.

History says if you kill/disable around a third you can remake their culture. Though in the case of Japan the change wasn't quite as major as Germany.

The internet says that about 100K Afghans died in the Afghan war out of a population of 40M. So...if that's the war you want to fight you are better off just killing your enemies and destroying their cities and warning them not to mess with you again.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (DpkTQ)

94
I'll be okay without an apology as long as they welcome the Trump 2024 campaign with open arms.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 01:43 PM (LvTSG)

I'd be ok if the reclaimed their honor by all committing Seppuku.

Posted by: Bete at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (Ojki1)

95 The only places where the US has successfully nation built is Germany and Japan after WWII. And I don't know why exactly it worked in either country. It may have been because both cultures were used to following orders.

But it may also be because we were not nice about it at all.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (Y5qcH)
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There were some cultural congruencies, especially in Germany - though much less so in Japan. But the preconditions were met: victory. Absolute, unquestioned, unassailable victory - and its corollary of utter, abject, total defeat.

You can nation-build - or at least make a good faith effort at it - if you win. But the enemy has to be completely vanquished and entirely destroyed, demoralized and undone. To do that, you need a total existential war with unspeakable violence and essentially total destruction.

If you aren't willing to commit to total war, then you will get a negotiated peace - and in a negotiated peace, you don't get to nation-build even if you win.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (Jsjd7)

96 I don't want to Monday morning quarterback but buying that Titanic passage? Probably a mistake.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (d9FiS)

Okay, so maybe I made a misstep or two when invading Russia....

Posted by: Hitler in the Fuhrerbunker at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (bhRsz)

97 That Tweet from David French is so tone deaf I can't even.
Does he realize he just made Trump sound good?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (mR6Gs)

98 I did NOT support going into Afghanistan. I knew the Democrats would enter office sooner or later and screw it up just like LBJ.
Posted by: Vic at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (mpXpK)
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I admit to being one of those that forgot, at some point, Democrats would regain power, and screw things up.

However, someone like GW was supposed to know better. Either he also forgot, or, didn't care.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (2SdPm)

99 JJ linked to that Sean Davis essay a few mornings ago.

A total evisceration and takedown of the forever War neocons, beginning with Frum.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 26, 2021 01:54 PM (lwpML)

100 If nation building is dead, it only died as a casualty of the truth. There was a time when we largely took our leaders word, especially in times of strife, as beyond reproach. We would unite and march to war based on it. We would join with our fellow citizens because of it. We would join with our brothers in the field, because it was akin to Gospel. We would then often count on others to confirm the veracity of that word, because they were trustworthy.

No more.

To find that we've been lied to, duped and led over the cliff by people we trusted is the least of it. It is that their word is now meaningless, our alleged protectors are co-conspirators and those who once ensured the truth, are fiction writers for the Fifth Column that has now replaced our leadership. Shame on us if we ever trust, or take at their word, any of the people in our government.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 01:54 PM (VpIIl)

101 Impeach Joe, even after he resigns.

Posted by: KungPow at August 26, 2021 01:54 PM (J83yD)

102 "I'll be okay without an apology as long as they welcome the Trump 2024 campaign with open arms."

Agree. 100%. There has to be room for repentance.

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 01:54 PM (B0mGw)

103 Our KIA will be arriving at Dover AFB and then sent on to their final resting places from there. Trump used to meet the caskets and families when they arrived.

Anyone think Sleepy Joe is going to do the same for THIS group of KIA Marines? Do you think the families will want to see his face knowing that he failed their sons and cost them their lives?

God damn him.

Posted by: AFG Vet at August 26, 2021 01:54 PM (5FOi/)

104 My son lost friends over there. Under Obama. I hated he was my kid's CinC. My kid nearly came home to us in a box.

I am imagining how the families of the Marines over there are feeling right now, praying their doorbells don't ring.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:54 PM (ptqGC)

105 Crazy day... A printing business exploded about a half mile from my house a couple hrs ago. Felt like someone drove a car into our garage door. No details, rumors of gas leak.

Posted by: Pudding Head at August 26, 2021 01:54 PM (AApC4)

106 Our work in Shitcanistan should have been done from 30,000 thousand feet. Rinse and repeat as needed.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 26, 2021 01:54 PM (flINI)

107 The proper response to 9/11 would have been to H-bomb the Al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan, and then send the following message to the UN: "Are there any questions or any smart ass remarks?"

Don't forget demanding the Saudi royals that participated in the planning and executing them publicly, in NYC, on 9/18.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2021 01:54 PM (DpkTQ)

108 Actually David Frum reminds me more of Wormtongue.

Posted by: Ken at August 26, 2021 01:54 PM (ledCy)

109 Maybe someone should say Russia paid for the bombings, and had a bounty for troops? The Dems and media seemed to give a damn when that was the story.

Posted by: Bete at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (Ojki1)

110 People I have a great idea............ Let's abandon Bagram AFB and give it to the Children of Allah and then hide in the middle of Third World Shit Hole City and hope nothing happens !

What does everyone think about this idea ???
Posted by: janes
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Ah! The Advance to the Rear maneuver. That'll show 'em!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (a87kG)

111 19 So, when China invades Afghanistan, what's Frum going to say?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 01:45 PM (LvTSG)

China won't invade Afghanistan because China is allied with the Taliban. We'll see how long it takes the goat-fuckers to figure out they're being played. By then, it might be too late even for them

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (s2VJv)

112 Brave Joe and Jen will not be the first Junta officials to speak publicly about Joe's mess. Joe and Jen are throwing the Pentagon to the Media Wolves and Whores, first, at 3:00 PM ET. The time of a White House public briefing remains unknown.

(I will cut Joe a bit of slack on delaying his teleprompter reading today - IF it is because he calls every family of the killed and wounded before standing behind his teleprompter.)

Posted by: Gref at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (AMIL/)

113 >>> Frum is a nasty cork sucker. He sucked as a speech writer and his presence at NR foretold of their direction.
Posted by: Mishdog at August 26, 2021 01:50 PM (cqAUI)

And a farging icehole.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (ZOfsH)

114 Alex, the problem in Afghanistan is Americans assuming cultural equivalence. You can't get from Somalia/Afghanistan/Equatorial Guinea, etc. to even Middle Ages Europe. The dirty secret of humanity is we brought the Stone Age with us.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (oWBc3)

115 {{{nurse ratched}}}

Thought of you at once.

Other mothers are grieving. Can we demand justice for their sacrifice? Yes.

Can we get it? Dunno, but remember.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (u82oZ)

116
But the reality is that no amount of money or training can fashion a liberal nation-state from a hodgepodge of ethnic tribes with competing interests.

__________

3 And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;
4 And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:
5 Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:
6 And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.
7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:

Matthew 13:3-7

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (/U27+)

117
Just 24 hours ago biden took a victory lap for rearranging the deck chairs on his SS Afghanistan.

Posted by: Soothsayer with hair colored yellow at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (G/QLV)

118 The only places where the US has successfully nation built is Germany and Japan after WWII. And I don't know why exactly it worked in either country.

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Because we bombed the fascist out of them first.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (d9FiS)

119 I don't have any answers. However, I do have a few solutions. But it may cause some of your slacks to get dirty and your security may be compromised. You may lose everything in fact. Even your life. But wouldn't that be better than what they have clearly demonstrated is in store for us?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (mU3VZ)

120 CO Alex, surely you meant "decade after"?

Pretending there was some clever magical alternative to keeping the world energy/economic center of gravity on-line apart from literally ensuring it was via intimidation and deterrence and occasionally action (as in summer '87) is the equal of pretending there was some magical and clever (as yet unsaid) solution to the Iraq situation post-9/11.

The NYT - at the time only largely unreliable, not the farcical cartoon it has become - had to correct itself 4 separate times because of their distortion about "pre-emption". Yet the essence of the actual operation, which was pre-emption, apparently was never understood by even "supporters". Based on this place, anyway.

We entered A'stan with 12 SF guys on donkeys, while we entered Iraq with a large conventional force, for actual reasons. Places represented very different kinds of problems, and there was good awareness of how different the prospects were in each.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (OTzUX)

121 Unfucking real. MSNBC analyst malcom Nance tweets. "deal with it" How about this fucker getting doxxed and seeing how he deals with it.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (U9GPU)

122 >>>I'm guilty of buying their bullshit back then too

>>>Me too. And we mercilessly, gleefully mocked all the opponents of the war.

me too

i would say that a lot of war opponents were in fact just anti-americans, who refused to admit the US had a right to counter attack those who attacked it.

But some did not dispute that right; they just opposed the wars Bush had in mind.

Posted by: ace at August 26, 2021 01:56 PM (0G13K)

123 "BREAKING NEWS: In consultation with a panel of experts, Biden has gone "outside the box" and ordered an unprecedented cherry vanilla Blizzard from DQ, as opposed to his usual double chocolate cone. Reports indicate he wanted to be more "unpredictable". However there are concerns that the (p)Resident's habit of quickly eating his delicious frozen treats could leave him incapacitated due to "brain freeze". We'll have updates as we learn more. Back to you, Trish...".

Posted by: Dr. Titanium Whitey, J.D. at August 26, 2021 01:56 PM (i6shs)

124
Also, Bush himself seems to have disputed that we had the right, PERIOD, end of line, to attack those who attacked us. He seemed to have thought the attacks against our enemies were "sins," which could only be redeemed through nation-building. That our war would not be justified or sanctified UNLESS we built these shitholes up into functioning western democracies.

that is a lie. that is the heart of the neocon lie.

Posted by: ace at August 26, 2021 01:56 PM (0G13K)

125 Well, I never bought in. But I used to have to argue with most of my conservative friends about it; only one or two were with me when I said that, if Bush was right, we needed to make an act of reparation and apology to the memory of Woodrow Wilson.

But, to be fair, their big counterargument was that, in both Germany and Japan it was reasonably successful. (I did not then think to point out the fact that fear of the USSR might have been a major factor.) Anyway, though I never quite identified as a "paleo", I did have strong sympathies that way.

BTW, here's an odd and forgotten fact: that was one time - maybe the last - when George Will was on the right side. For all his many flaws, he did see that nation building was BS.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 26, 2021 01:56 PM (7X3UV)

126 "Maybe someone should say Russia paid for the bombings, and had a bounty for troops? The Dems and media seemed to give a damn when that was the story."

The media has painted themselves into a corner. They've told so many lies, no one will believe them and we all just assume it's their fault and that of their paymasters.

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 01:56 PM (B0mGw)

127 Now i'm starting to wonder what that secret CIA meeting with the Taliban was really about.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM (eZXXh)

128 Oh. And fuck David French. Drum has always been an asshole.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM (mU3VZ)

129 Frum (spit) is right to the extent that a banana republic 28 trillion in debt shouldn't be having any delusions about being a world power.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM (3AD8C)

130 The only places where the US has successfully nation built is Germany and Japan after WWII. And I don't know why exactly it worked in either country.

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Because we bombed the fascist out of them first.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (d9FiS)

then turned them into industrial powerhouses in our own image

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM (mR6Gs)

131 I am so sorry, and even more angry that we had to endure such an avoidable loss. And the civilians that we're just going to dessert in country. FFS Bai-den.

Semper Fi brothers. Gonna pour one out for you.

I hope Joey Choo Choo and his idiot leadership team take the full brunt of this loss. It would be OK with me if they were pulled out of their offices and strung from a lamp post.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM (uqPrN)

132 cindymccain
He will be a commander in chief that the finest fighting force in the history of the world can depend on, because he knows what it is like to send a child off to fight.
4:45 PM Sep 22, 2020
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM (MFZ8i)

We can depend on Slow Joe because he taught Hunter how to fight over the price of underage hookers and meth?

Posted by: LASue at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM (Ed8Zd)

133 the bushite/neocon view -- that America has no right to act in its own self-interests, or avenge its dead -- is the same as the left's view.

the bushite/neocon view also holds that the US has no right to attack its enemies, but can justify doing so only by buying Indulgences at the Church of International Progressivism.

Posted by: ace at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM (0G13K)

134 Joetato should at least come out and tell us to get vaccinated.

Posted by: ChockyChockyChip at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM (ufJfM)

135 The absolute histrionics of the press, had this happened during PDT's watch, would have been epic, and, rightly so.

But, under Biden? Yeah, begrudgingly, MSM is reporting on the disaster.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM (2SdPm)

136 I supported Chimpy McBushtwit and am embarrassed of that, but at least I redeemed myself by voting for McCain and Romney.

What?

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM (hQVBP)

137 Let's try it in Iran and see what happens.
- Con, Inc in 3 months

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM (GQ5VU)

138 Omg. My head hurts.

In Jake's Twitter feed:

"How exactly were the American citizens and Afghans supposed to get to Bagram? It's 30 miles away."

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (ptqGC)

139 Frum would never lie. We just misunderstood the nuance.
===
You just know, from the way he rationalizes, he's got some "issues". And by issues, I mean crime.

Posted by: this is a professional observation, not humor at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (C6+Er)

140 Ace, we have Navy Corpsmen not Medics.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (/MaDp)

141 it is pretty weird how great things were in 2017-2019

musta been a glitch in the matrix

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (oEn12)

142 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (Jsjd7)

the other dynamic in play with both Japan and Germany, was that there was a BIG OLE THREAT sitting right next door.

Germany? Warsaw Pact. Japan? Communist China.

They literally had to change to keep our support, or they would have gone under in a heartbeat.

Iraq? WE were the Threat, not Iran. Afghanistan? Their neighbors were supporting the Taliban against US.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (oHd/0)

143 7 And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:

Matthew 13:3-7
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

I was thinking more of the prohibition on casting pearls before swine.

(There should be a prohibition on pearl clutching too but I digress.)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (d9FiS)

144
that is a lie. that is the heart of the neocon lie.
Posted by: ace at August 26, 2021 01:56 PM (0G13K)

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Thanks, Colin "You broke it, you bought it" Powell!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (2SdPm)

145 "Yeah, begrudgingly, MSM is reporting on the disaster."

The screw up is big enough that they are unable to deny it, which causes them to question their direction, which to them is an existential threat.

"Do you ever wonder if we're the bad guys?"

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 01:59 PM (B0mGw)

146 The fact that our military 'leaders' didn't see centralizing everything in one unsecure public airport as a prime target for terrorist attacks should make EVERYONE go AWOL and fend for themselves.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 01:59 PM (Zz0t1)

147 How do you ask someone to be the last man to die for a mistake?

You don't. You call a lid for the day and go get ice cream.

Posted by: Lrrr at August 26, 2021 01:59 PM (eK5G3)

148 George W. Bush stands next to Biden as the very worst of unmitigated disasters. I'm not sure which one is worse.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 26, 2021 01:59 PM (6kH/7)

149 {{{{Nurse}}}} for you and all Marines and their families.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at August 26, 2021 01:59 PM (a4EWo)

150 Pat Buchanan was right. He was smart too. But he was an Anti-Semite so it's understandable that people kept their distance from him.

Until you realize that the Left is ridden with Anti-Semites--and are never called on it.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 01:59 PM (mR6Gs)

151
"Do you ever wonder if we're the bad guys?"
Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 01:59 PM (B0mGw)

https://youtu.be/8JOpPNra4bw

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 01:59 PM (Zz0t1)

152 40 In his later years, Jerry Pournelle referred to Frum as "the egregious David Frum".
Posted by: Duncanthrax

Jerry P was the real deal as both a national security strategist and political advisor to Sam Yorkins (mayor of LA once upon a time). He also disliked the Bushes well before it became popular for more or less treating the Reaganites in office as pariahs.

He termed the neo cons strategy as incompetent empire building.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (xunV5)

153 Evacuation by the faculty lounge, lead by a bumbling old absent minded professor.

Posted by: Redenzo at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (E7vND)

154
This is the CNN headline right now:

"Biden braces for fallout as his dire warnings of a Kabul terror attack come true"

Who cares about dead soldiers? We need to worry how this affects Biden. Before you know Republicans may even pounce.

It's been said 1000 times of course but the MSM is truly the enemy of the people.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (GQ5VU)

155 George W. Bush stands next to Biden as the very worst of unmitigated disasters. I'm not sure which one is worse.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 26, 2021 01:59 PM (6kH/7)

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Watch out. You'll piss off Dana Perino and Jasper.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (ptqGC)

156 I regret my vote for Bush Jr.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (flINI)

157 I hate these people and I know it is not good for me or my soul to do so, but even the best of them are still the vilest of vile scum, and I am purposefully being polite here!

God Bless Our Troops and may God judge these grifting politicians and filthy traitors as they deserve to be judged!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar ~ Lay back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (hOUT3)

158 "Jilly, I'm so distraught. What a horrible mistake I've made. The stain will never come out".

"What dear? The bloodstains on your hands from Kabul?"

"What? No, this chocolate stain on my shirt. I never should have got a triple scoop. What was I thinking?! What's Kabul?"

Posted by: Dr. Titanium Whitey, J.D. at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (i6shs)

159 @MattWolking

"Terry McAuliffe, a politician of nearly 50 years, filed a Declaration of Candidacy with the [State Board of Elections] without his required signature in violation of Virginia Code § 24.2-520."

Ha!

Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (cF8AT)

160 willow - ...dead Americans will be equal to the number of Americans remaining in Trashcanistan after midnight on 8.31.21. Which we can't know, because they are closely holding that information. I suspect "several thousand" is the answer.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2021 12:59 PM (rZA2o)
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2021/09/01 - ATTENTION: There are no Americans remaining in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (m+yM6)

161 In Jake's Twitter feed:

"How exactly were the American citizens and Afghans supposed to get to Bagram? It's 30 miles away."
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (ptqGC)

For f*ck's sake.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (bhRsz)

162 118 The only places where the US has successfully nation built is Germany and Japan after WWII. And I don't know why exactly it worked in either country.

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Because we bombed the fascist out of them first.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (d9FiS)

AND we took over their schools. Critical Race Theory is essentially Mein Kampf and the Koran in Jive.

The only way to win this is absolute cruel martial law and the banning of the teaching of Islam, at least as the primary curriculum without secular studies.

We forget that Afghanistan, at least the larger cities, were fairly modern only a little over 40 years ago.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (s2VJv)

163 Unfucking real. MSNBC analyst malcom Nance tweets. "deal with it" How about this fucker getting doxxed and seeing how he deals with it.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (U9GPU)

Ahh, faced with their growing crimes, the guilty left just curl their thin cruel lips and smirk...that's twice they don't care!

Posted by: Boswell at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (5iUNf)

164 We largely completed the original mission in Afghanistan inside of two years. SOF pretty much bombed and fed lead to a lot of the Taliban. They feared us. They ran from us. They egressed to places like Pakistan to live. We should have ended the mission right there and built one main base so SOF could keep taking them out whenever they popped their heads up. But the neocons and the military industrial complex wouldn't have it. The minute we had Big Green enter the country and we started build and train as the mission, we failed. Well , we didn't, the leadership did. There is no place this has been successfully done. They knew it. It wasn't our interest. They didn't care.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:01 PM (VpIIl)

165 I've never in my life felt our nation spiraling out of control as I do today. It's completely insane. It's all preventable

Posted by: portlandon at August 26, 2021 02:01 PM (+oR7L)

166 Pentagon briefing on.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 02:01 PM (ptqGC)

167 George W. Bush stands next to Biden as the very worst of unmitigated disasters. I'm not sure which one is worse.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 26, 2021 01:59 PM (6kH/7)

I've loathed Bush since he went mute during the Obama years, only to have verbal diareah under Trump.

But he was much more competent than Biden, and smarter.
And he didn't get a tongue bath from the media.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 02:01 PM (mR6Gs)

168 I am embarrassed to admit I ever supported Dubya.

Twice.

I can't even look at footage of him standing on the Twin Towers rubble or throwing out the first pitch at Yankee Staduim without cursing his soul to perdition.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (2JVJo)

169 Jane,
I can't imagine what you and your husband and your son feel
Right now.

Semper fidelis.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (8+gGj)

170 Related: In the Twitter sidebar from Bloomberg News (i.e. narrative Twitter wants to promote):

@Quicktake
Cities around the U.S. are preparing to help resettle as many as 50,000 Afghan refugees as evacuations out of Kabul pick up pace https://trib.al/5SQeWyz

50K

WASTF

Posted by: Lizzy at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (bDqIh)

171 "How exactly were the American citizens and Afghans supposed to get to Bagram? It's 30 miles away."
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (ptqGC)

Posted by: Dr. T at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (bhRsz)
-------------

Desperately throwing talking points against the wall, trying to find one that will stick.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (2SdPm)

172 159 @MattWolking

"Terry McAuliffe, a politician of nearly 50 years, filed a Declaration of Candidacy with the [State Board of Elections] without his required signature in violation of Virginia Code 24.2-520."

Ha!
Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (cF8AT)

Odds of him not put on the ballot are zero.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (s2VJv)

173 Ohhh is this the neocon confession thread?

Because I believe it too. I was all in on whisky, democracy, sexy. I was sure it would work.

I was wrong. It was very painful to admit that I was wrong. But ignoring reality was far more painful.

In my tiny defense, I thought we would actually, you know, defeat the enemy first.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (mf5HN)

174 >Jerry P was the real deal
Posted by: whig at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (xunV5)

I miss Chaos Manor

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (DXFDM)

175 118 The only places where the US has successfully nation built is Germany and Japan after WWII. And I don't know why exactly it worked in either country.

___

We didn't really nation build either of them. We just guided them a little towards what they became. But they had a good baseline to start with. Both were modern industrial giants, well educated, etc.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (GQ5VU)

176 In his later years, Jerry Pournelle referred to Frum as "the egregious David Frum".
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 26, 2021 01:47 PM

So Carroll was on to something when he created the Frumious Bandersnatch?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (m+jkK)

177 I don't know when I changed and said leave but I know I said here immediately after OBL was killed that we should leave. I think I was on the train before that, which was also too long to my chagrin. Nevertheless, it was the way Biden did it that no one could envision, feckless and stupid and completely fubar.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (r+sAi)

178 Which, I admit to my great chagrin, I personally did. I had reservations, I did notice the wrenching, lurching change in Bush's (and the GOP's, and my own) position on nation-building, but I Fell In Line as commanded and supported the New Soviet Nation-Building Program.

=========================

I wish I could go back and slap the silly, jingoistic 35 year old me. I believed "our Best and Brightest" were actually bright people listening to the people that actually knew what was going on.

I was a dwmned fool. I should have known the only reason big Army wanted in to A-stan was so they could get command glory and punch their tickets.

The smart people were telling them, don't worry, you will have an entire career coming to this shithole.

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (Z32m1)

179 >>> The screw up is big enough that they are unable to deny it, which causes them to question their direction, which to them is an existential threat.

"Do you ever wonder if we're the bad guys?"
Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 01:59 PM (B0mGw)

They already know they're the bad guys. They are only miffed that they haven't been provided a workable narrative. Once they have it that'll be all you'll hear. They're the mouthpiece for evil, they only desire to do their job.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (ZOfsH)

180 How many months of trotting hostages out are we going to endure once our military is finally evacuated? This is the sound of the orchestra tuning up.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (wAnMi)

181 The only places where the US has successfully nation built is Germany and Japan after WWII. And I don't know why exactly it worked in either country.

-
Because we bombed the fascist out of them first.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (d9FiS)

then turned them into industrial powerhouses in our own image
Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 01:57 PM

I thogght it MIGHT work (westernization) in Iraq, they were fairly educated and westernized before Sadamn. I was wrong about that, they are too corrupt. Afghanistan, nope. A friend of mine upon return said the clans are still fighting each other from shit from 100 years ago. They are literally cave men with scooters and cell phones. tribal and dumb as fucking bricks. We should have leveled what they did have. And told them to keep their hosue clean or we would come back and re-level what was left. Fuck nation building. But the media is and was so quick to jump on the "baby milk" factory stories and turned us as usual into the bad guy.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (U9GPU)

182 Start pressing the local liberal and Democrat garbage to tell what they know about the election fraud.
They have blood on their hands, ask them if they are feeling any regrets or pangs of conscience.

Ask them if now isn't time to spill what they know about election fraud, then when?

Posted by: Dr. Mongo at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (3b35n)

183

Watch out. You'll piss off Dana Perino and Jasper.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (ptqGC)

My field of fucks....it is in drought and has gone baron.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (Zz0t1)

184 Nikki Haley, other Republicans demand Biden resignation after massacre

Does she think we want Kameltoe?

https://tinyurl.com/enuh7khj

Posted by: Vic at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (mpXpK)

185 Ohhh is this the neocon confession thread?

Because I believe it too. I was all in on whisky, democracy, sexy. I was sure it would work.

I was wrong. It was very painful to admit that I was wrong. But ignoring reality was far more painful.

In my tiny defense, I thought we would actually, you know, defeat the enemy first.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM

*raises paw*

*hangs head*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 26, 2021 02:03 PM (m+jkK)

186 I don't think I can stand to listen to this Pentagon Biden mouthpiece.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 02:03 PM (ptqGC)

187 Everyone that voted for Biden owns this. Fools.

Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:03 PM (Tnijr)

188 Has biden apologized for getting blood on the airport carpet? He will tell the Marines to be a little more careful where they bleed?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2021 02:03 PM (TayrX)

189 If we wanted to turn Afghanistan into something less of a crap hole the best thing we could have done was gone in, wipe out the terrorists, blow everything to hell and leave.

And if they think of trying to set up terror cramps again, blow everything to crap, carpet bomb the ashes, and leave.

Eventually it will dawn on them that maybe they should stop hosting terrorists if they want running water again.

Posted by: The Maskless Ranger at August 26, 2021 02:03 PM (hQVBP)

190 Cindy McCain
@cindymccain
He will be a commander in chief that the finest fighting force in the history of the world can depend on, because he knows what it is like to send a child off to fight.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe

When you say Budweiser, you've said it all!

Cindy, this Bud's for You!!!!

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 26, 2021 02:03 PM (vcOmj)

191 >"How exactly were the American citizens and Afghans supposed to get to Bagram? It's 30 miles away."
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (ptqGC)

On par with "that was like five days ago man".

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (DXFDM)

192 Clinton, Bush, Obama... a veritable triumvirate of jackassitude.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (6FeV1)

193 "In Jake's Twitter feed:

"How exactly were the American citizens and Afghans supposed to get to Bagram? It's 30 miles away."
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (ptqGC) "

Pure deflection. We did it all the time. We had staging points and overall plans for an EVAC. We could also handle all the entrances if people showed up in person. It's really not that hard, Jake the Fake.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (VpIIl)

194
Ahh, faced with their growing crimes, the guilty left just curl their thin cruel lips and smirk...that's twice they don't care!
Posted by: Boswell at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (5iUNf)

___________

Neither repented they of their murders - Revelations 9:21

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (/U27+)

195 >>>He also disliked the Bushes well before it became popular for more or less treating the Reaganites in office as pariahs.

i always mention this, but Dan Riehl told me that Mark Levin told him that he spent almost all of his time under Reagan pushing back against all the Bush-affiliated liberal "Republicans' who were determined to undermine Reagan.

I think Mark Levin almost felt flashbacks watching this same clan subvert Trump.

Posted by: ace at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (0G13K)

196 Imma take a mental health break.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (ptqGC)

197 I too am embarrassed to say I supporter Shrub. Would Kerry or Gore have been better? I dunno. They couldn't have been much worse.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (GQ5VU)

198 146 The fact that our military 'leaders' didn't see centralizing everything in one unsecure public airport as a prime target for terrorist attacks should make EVERYONE go AWOL and fend for themselves.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt
_____________

Fine. You go right on criticizing our military leaders for this decision. How else could they keep an eye on all the white supremacists? Hmmmm?

Posted by: Furious George at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (9vQJW)

199 we have Navy Corpsmen not Medics.
Posted by: Puddin Head
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I'd make an Obama joke here, but it's not funny anymore...actually, it never was.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (umPIN)

200 BTW, the Brits were far more successful in empire building than the US could ever be because realism was always a feature under the British Empire and the Brits used cleavages whether religion, ethnic, or past experiences, within the conquered states, often quite cynically, as a divide and conquer strategy.

The Brits also had enlightened statesmen from the Napoleonic era until about WWI that saw preservation and extension of British culture into their Empire as a key method of civilizing what can be generously termed unenlightened values among natives.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (xunV5)

201 I supported the W Wars but I forgive myself because it was more than 5 days ago.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (d9FiS)

202 Imagine a nation with military might as great as ours losing precious marines in a third world country? Our military should feel free to operate in complete safety because our leaders should let those peoples and country know that to screw with us will mean grave repercussions.

Posted by: SH (Non-Expert) at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (sX1BW)

203 >>"Biden braces for fallout as his dire warnings of a Kabul terror attack come true"

"warnings?"

Is he the Commander in Cheif. . . or a Security Monitor?
This is not happening to Biden, he is in charge of this.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (bDqIh)

204 156 I regret my vote for Bush Jr.
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (flINI)

Same.

Tell me 20 years ago I'd end up regretting that vote and add that the only POTUS vote I wouldn't regret (yet) is those for the real estate mogul and I'd say you're out of your damn mind.

Posted by: Thrawn at August 26, 2021 02:05 PM (wQb4c)

205 My Sunday school teacher is convinced that the Horsemen are on the loose
He may be right
==
Cause Two outta Four ain't bad.

Posted by: Gleet Loaf at August 26, 2021 02:05 PM (1Vxur)

206 195 "I think Mark Levin almost felt flashbacks watching this same clan subvert Trump."

He'll get to work on a book about. And not much else.

Posted by: Dr. Titanium Whitey, J.D. at August 26, 2021 02:05 PM (i6shs)

207 187 Everyone that voted for Biden owns this. Fools.
Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:03 PM (Tnijr)

Everyone of the few thousand people who dumped the millions of fraud ballots for Biden own this

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:05 PM (s2VJv)

208 191 >"How exactly were the American citizens and Afghans supposed to get to Bagram? It's 30 miles away."
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six!(ptqGC) at August 26, 2021 01:58 PM (ptqGC)

On par with "that was like five days ago man".
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (DXFDM)

Hey, if a busload of fat guatemalans can walk the entire length of Mexico and show up clean shaven on the other side, these lazy bastards can hoof it through a bit of desert to make their flight on time.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 26, 2021 02:05 PM (6FeV1)

209 This Pentagon cocksucker is minimizing the loss of our lives while proudly talking about the foreigners being assisted. I just might have a stroke today

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 26, 2021 02:05 PM (flINI)

210 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (r+sAi)

For me it was when the Army changed its training from Big Battle, to Counter Insurgency.

Counter Insurgency has TWO uses... Occupation and Putting down your own population. I saw the writing on the wall then...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 26, 2021 02:05 PM (oHd/0)

211 >>This is the CNN headline right now:

"Biden braces for fallout as his dire warnings of a Kabul terror attack come true"

Oh, I see now where they are going with this, the media and the WH - Punchy warned you all of dire consequences, and you filthy Americans wouldn't listen - you wanted to stay, to get everyone out even when they didn't wanna go, so tough to be you now, huh?

Faced with cruel incompetency of Punchy and the WH, all CNN has left as a defense is to smirk and say you all had it coming...

Posted by: Boswell at August 26, 2021 02:05 PM (5iUNf)

212 "The proper response to 9/11 would have been to H-bomb the Al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan, and then send the following message to the UN: "Are there any questions or any smart ass remarks?""

That's what the American public wanted, a massive punitive attack. But within days, W had assured us that "Islam was not the enemy," and he seemed especially uninterested in the Saudi role in the 9/11 atrocity. But we were clearly at war, and I supported the CinC, hoping we would deal out apocalyptic payback.

Posted by: gp at August 26, 2021 02:05 PM (qpX6U)

213 Joe:

You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the name of God, go!

--Oliver Cromwell

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 26, 2021 02:06 PM (FZH8P)

214 Miss Harris, do you have any comments for the families of the Marines killed in Afghanistan today?

Hahahahahahahahahabahah! Ahhhhhh! Heh heh. Oh, goodness! Hee heee! *serious face* You know, nobody is grieving harder than me right now. Those families don't know grief like I do. Ok? Try being vice president and mourning for 11 marines at the same time. Ok? They only lost one. Get over yourselves.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2021 02:06 PM (TayrX)

215 Checking the MSM websites, they're trying to cover for Biden. Won't say how many Marines have died.
Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 01:52 PM (G0vdT)

They're trying to decide which is the better optic: do not show any coffins, or show coffins with Stinkfinger in his fucking mirrored aviators pretending to be solemn and heartfelt, while DOCTOR Jill in her fishnets puts a single red rose on each coffin.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2021 02:06 PM (2JVJo)

216 @Quicktake
Cities around the U.S. are preparing to help resettle as many as 50,000 Afghan refugees as evacuations out of Kabul pick up pace https://trib.al/5SQeWyz

50K
WASTF
Posted by: Lizzy at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (bDqIh)

Lock up your women and girls. Literally. Just ask the Germans and the rest of the EU

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2021 02:06 PM (Z32m1)

217 I was afraid this would happen and it just makes me sick.
In a few days they will blow it off as "so last week".

Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:06 PM (Tnijr)

218 The Central Command commander leading-off the Pentagon Briefing is saying, we've done and are continuing to do a treee-mendous job! Oh, and I feel bad about the troopies killed and wounded today.

I feel ashamed to be an American.

Posted by: Gref at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (AMIL/)

219 Effing MFM.

Happen to hear top two stories from ABC radio at the top of the hour. They said a "number of US troops among the dead". Didn't want to give an actual number, apparently. Also abc was reporting that the state department had said there were credible warnings just hours before the attacks. So ABC spins it by saying "lives were saved". Just, wow.

Posted by: It wasn't me at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (rqCZd)

220 197 I too am embarrassed to say I supporter Shrub. Would Kerry or Gore have been better? I dunno. They couldn't have been much worse.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (GQ5VU)

There was an essay I had last week where the author made a pretty good case that Gore would not have been all the horrible and it might have at least forestalled all the acrimony and division for a while anyway.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (s2VJv)

221
cnn is saying poor biden just can't win, even when he's right

fuck you, cnn

Posted by: Soothsayer with hair colored yellow at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (G/QLV)

222 Faced with cruel incompetency of Punchy and the WH, all CNN has left as a defense is to smirk and say you all had it coming...
Posted by: Boswell at August 26, 2021 02:05 PM (5iUNf)

There is no more presidential phrase in the American lexicon than "I told you so".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (6FeV1)

223 Waiting on the pounces headlines!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (yrol0)

224 Yeah, I'll say it: I was all-in on the neocon project too. In my defense, I was in my early teens at the time and was still working out where I stood on things, and 9/11 was the most formative event in all that.

I did have a twinge of doubt when Bush and the others talked up bringing democracy to the Middle East--not because I didn't think it could be done, but because I thought defeating our enemies should come first. But otherwise, I was all on board, and stayed that way for a long time.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (bhRsz)

225 Not to demean this tragedy in any way whatsoever, but has it caught Chicago yet?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (Zz0t1)

226 I'm alternating between feeling bits of, WH Auden - Stop All The Clocks and Enoch Powells - Rivers of Blood.

"Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come."
--
WH Auden

"as I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see 'the River Tiber foaming with much blood'."
--
Enoch Powell.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (9h4bD)

227 i always mention this, but Dan Riehl told me that Mark Levin told him that he spent almost all of his time under Reagan pushing back against all the Bush-affiliated liberal "Republicans' who were determined to undermine Reagan.

I think Mark Levin almost felt flashbacks watching this same clan subvert Trump.

I used to read Dan Riehl's blog until he became too ill to post and later was too busy. Hope he is well. Levin saw it first hand from the DOJ which ended up with the execrable William P. Barr as AG. All the Bush clan needs to be out of office and cut off from grifting as a lifetime sentence.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (xunV5)

228 Kamala is on her way to Riyadh to lay a wreath at the memorial for the 9/11 hijackers.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (TayrX)

229 Did we give up when the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor? No. This could be the greatest rebirth in our history.

But, oh, Jak Sucio, we can't win!

A bunch of goat fuckers just took our vaunted leaders to school. Who's with me??

*runs out screaming.....alone.*
*all alone*

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 26, 2021 02:08 PM (mU3VZ)

230 All pre-screened questions. Bullshit.

Posted by: dartist at August 26, 2021 02:08 PM (+ya+t)

231 I want vengeance for this entire shitshow.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 26, 2021 02:08 PM (ufFY8)

232 One piece of good news....the libs on farcebook have been rather quiet today.....

Posted by: Norman Spiny at August 26, 2021 02:09 PM (rCCYG)

233 Our ruling coprophagic kakistocracy class likes to punctuate their ignorance with certainty.

Posted by: Eat The Eloi at August 26, 2021 02:09 PM (BvNzB)

234 Briefing: We expect attacks to continue.

* Still bringing people to airport.

* Will go after ISIS...if we can find them.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:09 PM (G0vdT)

235 "The proper response to 9/11 would have been to H-bomb the Al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan, and then send the following message to the UN: "Are there any questions or any smart ass remarks?""

That's what the American public wanted, a massive punitive attack.

------------------

Its not too late.

Posted by: SH (Non-Expert) at August 26, 2021 02:09 PM (sX1BW)

236 228 Kamala is on her way to Riyadh to lay a wreath at the memorial for the 9/11 hijackers.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (TayrX)

I had her going to Pyongyang to apologize to Whoa Fat! for the USS Pueblo.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:09 PM (s2VJv)

237 "Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (mf5HN) "

I think a lot of people were all God, Country, Family because they inherently trusted these people. To find out they lied to us and treated us like dupes made a lot of people feel dirty. Like five bucks on the night table dirty.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:09 PM (VpIIl)

238 229 Did we give up when the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor? No. This could be the greatest rebirth in our history.

I thot it was the Germans?

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 26, 2021 02:09 PM (yrol0)

239 "I did have a twinge of doubt when Bush and the others talked up bringing democracy to the Middle East"

I never believed that shit for a second. Those people don't want Democracy. Most of them are members of a cult.

Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:09 PM (Tnijr)

240 @JoeConchaTV

UK Prime Minister spoke more than two hours ago. We have yet to hear from President Biden. This raises serious questions with each passing hour.

https://tinyurl.com/yf7mtkcp

Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (cF8AT)

241 Kamala is on her way to Riyadh to lay a wreath at the memorial for the 9/11 hijackers.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM

Did she miss the Yasukuni shrine in Japan?

Posted by: Beartooth at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (UVMn8)

242 One piece of good news....the libs on farcebook have been rather quiet today.....
___

Most of us do not use FB, so meh.

I personally don't care.

Posted by: SMH - The war has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (wparq)

243 237 I think a lot of people were all God, Country, Family because they inherently trusted these people. To find out they lied to us and treated us like dupes made a lot of people feel dirty. Like five bucks on the night table dirty.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:09 PM (VpIIl)

========

We're all Rorschach now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (LvTSG)

244 234 * Will go after ISIS...if we can find them.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:09 PM (G0vdT)

Try Dearborn, Minneapolis and Brooklyn.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (s2VJv)

245 Gore would have been terrible.
John Fucking Kerry would have been terrible
McCain would have been terrible
Romney would have been terrible

There is a pattern forming here.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (TayrX)

246
Gore would have screwed up as well, just differently. You could say that our intervention in the Balkans was a strategic disaster that set Russia against us permanently.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (/U27+)

247 Briefing:

* Attack happened at gate where Marines do body search.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (G0vdT)

248 In my tiny defense, I thought we would actually, you know, defeat the enemy first.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM

I'm going to posit that we didn't "defeat the enemy" because we were coddling the enemy in our ranks all the time - the MFM.

Had Stormin' Norman gone full Patton and we steamrollered the fuck out of Iran, the "news" would have been even more full of wailing and "war crime" propaganda than it was (remember the Boston Globe running pics from a porn site on its front page and saying it was our troops torturing Arabs?).

If there ever is another GOP president, the media need to be fucking destroyed.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (2JVJo)

249
Did I not tell you the Taliban would not be blamed?

Posted by: Soothsayer with hair colored yellow at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (G/QLV)

250 Posted by: Dr. T at August 26, 2021 02:07 PM (bhRsz)

By the time Bush got into Office, I had already retired from the Navy... where I had done Lebanon in 83, and Desert Storm. I'd already seen a large part of the world... hell, had actually sailed all the way around it once...

So I was a bit more cynical about the whole thing, especially the open ended War on Terror Authorization for use of Force... which they are STILL USING!!!!!!

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (oHd/0)

251 Those vaunted 17 US intelligence agencies sure shined like bright stars in this goatfuck rodeo -- We got warnings of the attacks from the freakin' Taliban.

Didn't do much good, those warnings.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (F0YaR)

252 This Pentagon Cocksucker is talking as if the Tollybon are our partners in peace.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (flINI)

253 * Will go after ISIS...if we can find them.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:09 PM (G0vdT)

How long did it take to find bin Laden?

Posted by: Gref at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (AMIL/)

254 Just listened to a David Harris podcast interviewing Victor Marx. Mr. Marx is a Christian missionary I've supported for over a decade. I've met the man and he is a warrior. He has assets in many of the most dangerous places in the ME. He spent years rescuing young women from ISIS. He said that the Taliban are in tactical control of the airport. They have a representative in the control tower who is vetting flights based on their msnifests. I haven't seen anything corroborating this but I'll take anything Mr. Marx says at face value. Excerpt of the interview on Instagram.

https://tinyurl.com/2cevszbu

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Non timebo mala at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (Vxryl)

255 @JoeConchaTV

UK Prime Minister spoke more than two hours ago. We have yet to hear from President Biden. This raises serious questions with each passing hour.

https://tinyurl.com/yf7mtkcp
Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (cF8AT)

....with the fetal stem cells not having the desired effect, Mr. Biden was recommended to skip the middleman and cut straight to eating raw babies.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 02:11 PM (Zz0t1)

256
In my tiny defense, I thought we would actually, you know, defeat the enemy first.
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Me too. But I don't think that was an irrational assumption.

PPP makes for PPP.

If a plan fails, it does not necessarily mean that the underlying aim was bad, it may mean that the execution was incompetent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2021 02:11 PM (a87kG)

257 Attack happened at gate where Marines do body search.
Posted by: WisRich
___

Dear Lord.

They didn't have a chance.

Posted by: SMH - The war has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at August 26, 2021 02:11 PM (wparq)

258 Giuliani mentioned it would be good to keep (or take back) Bagram, in light of our future military positioning against China. ... he thought it was one of the closest bases to china. ... From that view especially, Trump may have agreed to leave 3-6000 there as the backbone for the Afghan troops ... since the Taliban broke every deal. ... (but I know nothing about military planning, just that surrender to Taliban and leaving Americans behind ... smells like sabotage from Biden's China boyz)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 26, 2021 02:11 PM (Cus5s)

259
Seriously, if the Mongoloids invaded Taiwan or even dropped a nuke on Hawaii, would these fools even do anything except blame Trump and apologize?

Yikes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:11 PM (s2VJv)

260 Briefing: We expect attacks to continue.

No shit? I had no idea.

Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2021 02:11 PM (fSmfa)

261 To say they're scum would be an insult to scum.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at August 26, 2021 02:11 PM (II3Gr)

262 John Kirby from the Pentagon makes me sick. All proud that they evacuated over 100,000 muzzies. What's a few dead Marines, right?

Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at August 26, 2021 02:11 PM (hlxe7)

263 UK Prime Minister spoke more than two hours ago. We have yet to hear from President Biden. This raises serious questions with each passing hour.

https://tinyurl.com/yf7mtkcp

Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM

They literally can't juice biden up quick enough to do a press conference on this. That stuff takes time.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 26, 2021 02:11 PM (JUOKG)

264 One piece of good news....the libs on farcebook have been rather quiet today.....
Posted by: Norman Spiny

They haven't been given their marching orders yet.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 02:11 PM (d9FiS)

265 Ohhh is this the neocon confession thread?

Because I believe it too. I was all in on whisky, democracy, sexy. I was sure it would work.

I was wrong. It was very painful to admit that I was wrong. But ignoring reality was far more painful.

In my tiny defense, I thought we would actually, you know, defeat the enemy first.
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Whole GWOT thing wouldn't a been possible without the 9-11 attack.

Something about a coordinated sneak attack on civilians that tends to tip the scales toward war, rather than say an investigation by international authorities eventual trial. I mean, I was just not having the latter. And then they were telling us there was WMD etc etc. So, i'm a say it in the nik

Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (ZDaYE)

266 Will the NYT start the death count on the front page again?

Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (Tnijr)

267 162 118 The only places where the US has successfully nation built is Germany and Japan after WWII. And I don't know why exactly it worked in either country.
------------------
Because we bombed the fascist out of them first.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 01:55 PM (d9FiS)
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AND we took over their schools. ...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:00 PM (s2VJv)
----------------

And we gave those responsibilities to the military not bureaucrats - one great general and one very good general.

(even if he was a socialist - look at Germany and guess which one.)

Posted by: Braenyard at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (m+yM6)

268
This Pentagon Cocksucker is talking as if the Tollybon are our partners in peace.
Posted by: Truck Monkey

Our new pals.
Totally not doing any harm. Totally keeping their word.

Posted by: Soothsayer with hair colored yellow at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (G/QLV)

269 Tell me 20 years ago I'd end up regretting that vote and add that the only POTUS vote I wouldn't regret (yet) is those for the real estate mogul and I'd say you're out of your damn mind.
Posted by: Thrawn at August 26, 2021 02:05 PM (wQb4c)
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Can I get an "Amen" to that?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (2SdPm)

270 Briefing:

* We're incredibly proud how our military is performing in the face of our incompetency. (I might have added that last part)

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (G0vdT)

271 @EenaRuffini 1m

The attack occurred at the gate. The Taliban was pre-searching people before they got up to the Americans "sometimes the searches are good. Sometimes they're not." Says ultimately Americans have to be in danger to do this work.

@KatiePavlich 3m

Pentagon confirms the United States will continue to rely on the Taliban for security outside of the airport.

Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (cF8AT)

272
Did she miss the Yasukuni shrine in Japan?
Posted by: Beartooth at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM

She will divert looking to lay a wreath were Yamamoto was splashed down courtesy of a P-38

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (U9GPU)

273 173 In my tiny defense, I thought we would actually, you know, defeat the enemy first.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (mf5HN)

==========

I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (LvTSG)

274 "You know, those Americans who died on 9/11 are really to blame. It's their own fault for being in those buildings and on those planes ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (lwpML)

275 Pentagon spokeshole: We're still dependent on the Taliban for security outside the airport.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (UW2ZS)

276 As much as W sucked, what would be different if Gore had won in 2000, or Kerry in 2004?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (wAnMi)

277 Like five bucks on the night table dirty.

Damn, I never got that much.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (SchxB)

278 F*ck all you NeverTrumpers who couldn't deal with mean tweets and now can incessantly talk about body bags instead.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (TNyrE)

279
The thought of Dubya standing on the rubble of the WTC and belching up that "they are going to hear from all of us" makes me want to vomit in light of all this.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (s2VJv)

280 Can someone please post the names of the 200 retired generals and admirals who lined up behind Joe the turnup pre election and dumped on Trump? Those people need to have their names spread far and wide

Posted by: Fatass Barr Deep State stooge at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (YTBIQ)

281 * Will go after ISIS...if we can find them.

If we're permitted to leave the airport. The Taliban have been slow signing our passes.

Posted by: The White House at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (fSmfa)

282 Hell, we could have won this thing in a few weeks by just non-stop, round the clock carpet bombing of everything that stood over 3 feet high.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (s2VJv)

This was my sage military advice from the get-go but nobody listened.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (hlxe7)

283 212 That's what the American public wanted, a massive punitive attack. But within days, W had assured us that "Islam was not the enemy," and he seemed especially uninterested in the Saudi role in the 9/11 atrocity. But we were clearly at war, and I supported the CinC, hoping we would deal out apocalyptic payback.
Posted by: gp

The Bushes had long had profitable relations with the Saudis including Prince Bandar who was the long standing ambassador to US. The Bushes also hustled the Bin Ladin family members in the US out of here and allowed a coverup of Saudi embassy officials role in 9/11. A similar beneficial financial relationship between the Clintons and the Saudis also existed and that is probably what caused the Clintons and Bushes to bond--they both wanted the Saudi role covered up post 9/11 which is why Sandy Berger was allowed to do what he did by removing and destroying documents with little punishment.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (xunV5)

284 @KatiePavlich 3m

Pentagon confirms the United States will continue to rely on the Taliban for security outside of the airport.
Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (cF8AT)

Ah yes....

Because that worked out so well THIS time.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (Zz0t1)

285 I too am embarrassed to say I supporter Shrub. Would Kerry or Gore have been better? I dunno. They couldn't have been much worse.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (GQ5VU)

They couldn't have been much worse.

They were a young and dynamic version of Senile Joe Biden. I regret voting Bush, McCain, and Romney, but only because there were not better choices AND I was too freaking naive to realize it.

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (Z32m1)

286 "Pentagon confirms the United States will continue to rely on the Taliban for security outside of the airport."

I've seen more competent organisms swimming in a septic tank.

Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (Tnijr)

287 272
Did she miss the Yasukuni shrine in Japan?
Posted by: Beartooth at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM

She will divert looking to lay a wreath were Yamamoto was splashed down courtesy of a P-38
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (U9GPU)

She'll go to Bittburg. Intentionally.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (s2VJv)

288 "The proper response to 9/11 would have been to H-bomb the Al Qaeda camp in Afghanistan, and then send the following message to the UN: "Are there any questions or any smart ass remarks?""

That's what the American public wanted, a massive punitive attack. "

It would have been a waste of a good H bomb and killed a bunch of wildlife. We largely bombed the shit out of the Taliban in the early days. Anything that moved, we smoked. Any material that was stored, we hit. Anything that moved, we torched or shot. People don't understand a lot of the first two years was very Old Testament. We were doing the right things, and they were running for the borders. It's what happened after that which was the absolute wrong thing.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:14 PM (VpIIl)

289 In my tiny defense, I thought we would actually, you know, defeat the enemy first.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM (mf5HN)

That's SOOOO 1940's ......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

290 "This Pentagon Cocksucker is talking as if the Tollybon are our partners in peace."

They are. The very obvious elephant in the room is that we just deliberately armed and allied the Taliban after 20 years of war.

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 02:14 PM (B0mGw)

291 286 "Pentagon confirms the United States will continue to rely on the Taliban for security outside of the airport."

I've seen more competent organisms swimming in a septic tank.
Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (Tnijr)

Warsaw Ghetto Jews to Continue to Rely on Waffen SS for "Crowd Control"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:14 PM (s2VJv)

292 FUBAR administration.

Posted by: runner at August 26, 2021 02:14 PM (w45mR)

293 124 Also, Bush himself seems to have disputed that we had the right, PERIOD, end of line, to attack those who attacked us. He seemed to have thought the attacks against our enemies were "sins," which could only be redeemed through nation-building. That our war would not be justified or sanctified UNLESS we built these shitholes up into functioning western democracies.

that is a lie. that is the heart of the neocon lie.
Posted by: ace at August 26, 2021 01:56 PM (0G13K)

"Why do they hate us?" (GWB)

Posted by: m at August 26, 2021 02:15 PM (Zsfob)

294 In my tiny defense, I thought we would actually, you know, defeat the enemy first.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 26, 2021 02:02 PM

*raises paw*

*hangs head*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 26, 2021 02:03 PM (m+jkK)

Same here.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2021 02:15 PM (mdjgu)

295 WHAT. THE. ACTUAL. FUCK!!!

What is wrong with these people? McKenzie asked how it happened that there were so many casualties answers we need to work on our training and procedures. OMG let's get some more mandatory training modules!

Instead of promising that those who did it will pay.

Blood boiling.

Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2021 02:15 PM (mbFEM)

296 By the way, is there any doubt that the fraud Joe the turnip has in mind to conclude a deal with the Taliban, whom he will identify as the legitimate government of Afghanistan?

Posted by: Fatass Barr Deep State stooge at August 26, 2021 02:15 PM (YTBIQ)

297
"Discipline is the soul of an army." -- George Washington, 1757

"High heels are the sole of an army." -- Beijing Biden, 2021

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 26, 2021 02:15 PM (lwpML)

298 Prayers to the families of all those killed or stranded by this immoral and illegitimate government.

I fear this will only get much worse.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 26, 2021 02:15 PM (haWye)

299
I fell for it at first, too. But as of the 2006 midterms, I knew the war was lost and it was time to go.

Almost fifteen years ago.

I can't pretend these "people" in charge of the war and the propaganda didn't see it by then, too. They knew it was a joke, but they were laughing all the way to the bank, so whatevs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2021 02:15 PM (rZA2o)

300 But the Taliban said they will abide by the Paris Climate Accords..........

Posted by: janes at August 26, 2021 02:16 PM (24+Vp)

301 Briefing:

Wow. "We are gathering attack intelligence and passing it onto the Taliban."

Let me repeat: Just wow.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:16 PM (G0vdT)

302 We should put a bullet in tolly bons head.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 26, 2021 02:16 PM (m+yM6)

303 Gore would have been terrible.
John Fucking Kerry would have been terrible
McCain would have been terrible
Romney would have been terrible
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Its just the puppeteer's other hand. The deep state got what it wanted and it would have gotten either way. The only time the deep state didn't get what it wanted it tried to impeach the president. TWICE.

Posted by: David French Boarding the next plane to Kabul at August 26, 2021 02:16 PM (tw7js)

304 I'm seeing news that bombs are still going off in Kabul. A fifth explosion occurred just a few minutes ago.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:16 PM (UW2ZS)

305 "Pentagon confirms the United States will continue to rely on the Taliban for security outside of the airport."

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Biden is the Taliban's bitch.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at August 26, 2021 02:16 PM (oEn12)

306 I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (LvTSG)

TINY AS IN MADE OF TIN WHICH IS A COMPONENT OF BRONZE WHICH WAS THE FIRST METAL USED TO CRAFT PLATE ARMOR PIECES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT I THINK I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISSBERGER at August 26, 2021 02:16 PM (6FeV1)

307
"We regard the halt of the panzer divisions to be a positive sign of cooperation in our ongoing efforts to evacuate peacefully all British soldiers who want to leave France." - Not Winston S. Churchill

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 26, 2021 02:16 PM (/U27+)

308 Will the NYT start the death count on the front page again?
Posted by: f'd

Well, we've misplaced all of our Grim Milestones, so that has to wait until we can find more Grim Milestones.

Where did we put those things, anyways?

Posted by: The New York Times, looking for something at August 26, 2021 02:16 PM (vcOmj)

309 306 I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 02:12 PM (LvTSG)

TINY AS IN MADE OF TIN WHICH IS A COMPONENT OF BRONZE WHICH WAS THE FIRST METAL USED TO CRAFT PLATE ARMOR PIECES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT I THINK I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISSBERGER at August 26, 2021 02:16 PM (6FeV1)

=========

I think I get it now.

Not really, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 02:16 PM (LvTSG)

310 "Pentagon confirms the United States will continue to rely on the Taliban for security outside of the airport."

Is this true?

I don't believe any of those MF'ers over there, but the Taliban really has nothing to gain by pulling this shit.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (mR6Gs)

311 WTF. Still looking for cooperation from the Taliban?

Posted by: Ziba at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (S1hrL)

312 "TINY AS IN MADE OF TIN WHICH IS A COMPONENT OF BRONZE WHICH WAS THE FIRST METAL USED TO CRAFT PLATE ARMOR PIECES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT I THINK I DON'T KNOW WHATEVER"

I like dragonflies.

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (B0mGw)

313 @Shem_Infinite 36s

Pentagon Press Briefing: We've been giving the Taliban intelligence about possible terrorist attacks against the airport in hopes they will stop them. What a freaking disaster this entire thing is.

Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (cF8AT)

314 "I regret voting Bush, McCain, and Romney, but only because there were not better choices "

That's why I have no regrets on those votes. They were the best choices; they were the only choices from my POV.

Posted by: gp at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (qpX6U)

315 That was 4 or five days ago

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (iWIqo)

316 Total Americans KIA during 4 years of Trump? FOUR.
2 incidents with 2 deaths.
One was a roadside bomb...the other a broken turbine blade on an E-11a electronic warfare/communications plane, causing it to crash
(Basically a G-6 bizjet converted to be an airborne cell tower/repeater)
Today? 12 dead...so far...15 injured, some verrrrry seriously and expected to die.

Posted by: jeff at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (uAI4S)

317 When the general just said they are gonna continue to work with the taliban for security my wife said "OMG we are being governed by a bunch of 8th graders."

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (r+sAi)

318 @295

>>Instead of promising that those who did it will pay. Blood boiling.

The die is cast, we are bugging out come hell or high water, they are not going to engage, we are in a purely defensive posture and are going to get out of the country as fast as possible even if we take more casualties.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (9h4bD)

319 56 The only places where the US has successfully nation built is Germany and Japan after WWII. And I don't know why exactly it worked in either country. It may have been because both cultures were used to following orders.

But it may also be because we were not nice about it at all.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (Y5qcH)

You can rewrite a culture from top down(it's been pulled off a number of times historically, and nationalism is basically rewriting tribes into one nation). Pretty ugly process though and democracy isn't involved. Our "experts" don't know the basics on seemingly any topic of governance though.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (z5Vrg)

320 Let's give more weapons to the Taliban to protect US Forces............

Posted by: janes at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (24+Vp)

321 "I Fell In Line as commanded and supported the New Soviet Nation-Building Program."

Me too. And we mercilessly, gleefully mocked all the opponents of the war.
Posted by: gp at August 26, 2021 01:50 PM (qpX6U)

Shockingly, because I'm usually pretty stupid about this sort of thing, I just wanted to kill everyone and leave.

https://youtu.be/KBKXu3Kg4yg

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (T7iTv)

322 and yet that schlemiel noah feldman, enshrined islam into the iraqi and afghan constitutions, so who's kidding who, and bibles were burned even those bought privately,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (hMlTh)

323 Now I know why Ashlee Babbitt's killer Bird is getting his interview released today. Seven Capitol Police Officers are suing Trump and others, blaming a supposed conspiracy for what happened on 1/6.

Posted by: junior at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (5dpI/)

324
I like dragonflies.
Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (B0mGw)

We can get there tomorrow if we travel by dragonfly.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

325
The Big Lie Narrative has formed:

-Trump pulled out of Syria prematurely.
-ISIS which is still alive and well, was allowed to use Syria as a base and recruiting ground.
-Because of Trump's deal with the Taliban, ISIS was able to move into Afghanistan and fuck up everything.
-ISIS is now responsible for all violence in Afghanistan, while the Taliban and biden have a rock-solid agreement.

Posted by: Soothsayer with hair colored yellow at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (G/QLV)

326 "We are gathering attack intelligence and passing it onto the Taliban. Let me repeat: Just wow. "

Yep. Biden has us working WITH the Taliban and our allies shunning us. Pure genius and competence

Posted by: Ripley at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (MxEKc)

327 We were doing the right things, and they were running for the borders. It's what happened after that which was the absolute wrong thing.

______________

I'm hesitant to even say this, but Bush had basically moved on to Iraq after a few years. Yes, we were tentatively doing nation building, but it was Obama who really went back in there - the good war and all. Both parts were prosecuted wrongly, and so I am of the belief that if you are going to mis-prosecute the war, then don't do the war. There is too much to rehash.

It all sucks. Our country and service members deserve much better. And we should still be able to tell those third world countries that if one American dies, expect the wrath of god upon you (god being a million tons of TNT).

Posted by: SH (Non-Expert) at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (sX1BW)

328 The nearest border from Kabul is Pakistan, about 100 miles by the main highway, maybe 65 or so as the crow flies. And Tali checkpoints probably abound.

Huh. I wonder what Plan C is.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (F0YaR)

329 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (arJlL)

330 Beijing Biden's Middle Eastern apology tour (a man can dream, can't he?) is going to be lit AF ....if they ever unchain him from the White House basement radiator ever again.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (lwpML)

331 Max Abrahms
@MaxAbrahms
The Taliban response must be fierce and swift if it wants to cultivate any counterterrorism credibility.

-
Yeah, boy! Cultivating counterterrorism credibility is first on their honey do list.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (d9FiS)

332 @SpeakerPelosi 18 mins

Join me live in San Francisco with Mayor London Breed, elected officials and community leaders to commemorate Women's Equality Day.

She's just horrific.

Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (cF8AT)

333 282 Hell, we could have won this thing in a few weeks by just non-stop, round the clock carpet bombing of everything that stood over 3 feet high.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (s2VJv)

This was my sage military advice from the get-go but nobody listened.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue no longer gives a shit at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (hlxe7)

Rubble doesn't make trouble.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (6FeV1)

334 FOX News was always a Mickey Mouse operation
yeah, the eagles, flags and country music

But they shamelessly run the same 30 second B-roll loop for HOURS

Even CNN doesn't do that.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (mR6Gs)

335 Breaking: Biden press conference in 30 minutes to discuss his favorite ice cream flavors & what shampoo he prefers pre-teen girls use.

In other news:

Kyle Becker
@kylenabecker
Intelligence-connected source told me fourth and fifth explosions at Kabul airport. Video has already been posted. Devastating.
https://tinyurl.com/478856p2
12:12 PM · Aug 26, 2021

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (MFZ8i)

336 "Why do they hate us?" (GWB)
Posted by: m

Mission Accomplished!

George, now a lot of Republicans hate you, too.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (vcOmj)

337 "The Big Lie Narrative has formed."

EIGHT MONTHS TO PLAN A CONTROLLED EVACUATION!

Which was already planned.

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (B0mGw)

338 The Taliban and ISIS are all the f88king same you dumb shit Biden !!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: janes at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (24+Vp)

339 Taliban were already providing a perimeter around HKIA. But they had lists of people they didn't want to get by...

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (VpIIl)

340 Here it comes: they expected the attacks! all according to plan IOW.

Posted by: Ziba at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (S1hrL)

341 From twitter, Pentagon Press Briefing: We've been giving the Taliban intelligence about possible terrorist attacks against the airport in hopes they will stop them.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (pNmvf)

342 20 years ago, we were dependent on middle East oil being pumped and transported with some level of predictability. So we had to try something.

The current farce/ tragedy is - if we unleashed the frackers, we could bankrupt, or at least hamstring, the entire region. But The Smart People just won't accept such a logical simple solution.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at August 26, 2021 02:20 PM (XiGOc)

343 > the Taliban really has nothing to gain by pulling this shit.

You're joking, right?

They have Biden's number. They know he's a little bitch that wants out now, no matter what. The Taliban recruits and fundraises off of bloodying our nose. They gain funds and recruits by hitting Americans and they know we're not going to hit back.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:20 PM (UW2ZS)

344 FYI: The Marine four-star talking now in the Pentagon briefing is CentCom Commander-in-Chief, General McKenzie. He was the commanding officer of now-retired General Miller, the guy who authored the Afghan final bug-out plan, including getting out of Bagram air base as the first step. General McKenzie had to have signed-off on Miller's plan. Caveat: McKenzie and Miller may not any other realistic option with the forces Biden gave them to work with. Maybe.

Posted by: Gref at August 26, 2021 02:20 PM (AMIL/)

345 Max Abrahms
@MaxAbrahms
The Taliban response must be fierce and swift if it wants to cultivate any counterterrorism credibility.

Battle of Itter Castle coming

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 02:20 PM (mR6Gs)

346 From Day 1 I didn't understand why we didn't blast Tehran to smithereens on September 12th, end of story.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:20 PM (EjmW1)

347
Note how we're not seeing other countries' intelligence agencies running with this ISIS bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer with hair colored yellow at August 26, 2021 02:20 PM (G/QLV)

348 This is just horrific. Dear Lord.

Posted by: IC at August 26, 2021 02:20 PM (hV9ir)

349 Briefing:

*Hey, these deaths were baked into the cake.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:20 PM (G0vdT)

350 If there ever is another GOP president, the media need to be fucking destroyed.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (2JVJo)

I blame the media for this catastrophe. All of it. Even now they prop up Biden, because they know that they were complicit in all of what is happening now. I blame them even more than the Democrats.

The job of the Fourth Estate is to hold everyone to account. They've had their thumbs on the scales for Democrats for decades. They are little more than a Fifth Column.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2021 02:20 PM (mdjgu)

351 I wish I had something to strangle.

Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (Tnijr)

352 "Pentagon confirms the United States will continue to rely on the Taliban for security outside of the airport."

I have woken up in a timeline where everybody has gone completely crazy.

Posted by: t-bird at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (OMKK+)

353 "General Miller, the guy who authored the Afghan final bug-out plan, including getting out of Bagram air base as the first step."

Guy obviously didn't play enough Starcraft or Age of Empires.

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (B0mGw)

354 Gen McKenzie - 'fool me once, shame on me, fool me again well ok then I trust you.' *

*not actual quote, but close.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (r+sAi)

355
Heckuva job, Joey.

Posted by: GWB at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (uih5M)

356 "Today, with our troops still in harms way, it is not the time for recriminations, fault finding, or blame laying ... by the way the same will be true tomorrow and the better part of at least next week ... in fact my schedule is pretty packed for at least the next month with Critical Race Theory seminars ... so how about we schedule sometime in December for the discussion of blame laying ... oh, wait well Christmas doesn't really seem like a good time for that sort of thing does it ... hmm, I'm just going to have to circle back on this discussion next year."

Posted by: General Milley (white rage investigator) at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (dYe5S)

357 Maybe this 2X4...

Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (Tnijr)

358 Briefing:

*will continue to evacuate civilians as we withdraw.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (G0vdT)

359 From twitter, Pentagon Press Briefing: We've been giving the Taliban intelligence about possible terrorist attacks against the airport in hopes they will stop them.
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (pNmvf)

Darkly hilarious if true.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (EjmW1)

360
Join me live in San Francisco with Mayor London Breed, elected officials and community leaders to commemorate Women's Equality Day.

__________

Tone deaf as usual.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (/U27+)

361
Guy obviously didn't play enough Starcraft or Age of Empires.
Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (B0mGw)

Or pay attention in class.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)

362 345 Max Abrahms
@MaxAbrahms
The Taliban response must be fierce and swift if it wants to cultivate any counterterrorism credibility.

No, 1st climate change, then counterterrorism credibility, then fiscal discipline.

Posted by: The Tolly-bon at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (UuD2k)

363 >>>Didn't do much good, those warnings.
Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 26, 2021 02:10 PM (F0YaR)

Not so! The MFM not just 20 min ago told me that it would have been a lot worse had we not acted on those warnings. And if you can't trust the MFM, then who can you trust. See, now don't you feel better about the job Biden is doing?

Posted by: It wasn't me at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (rqCZd)

364 328 The nearest border from Kabul is Pakistan, about 100 miles by the main highway, maybe 65 or so as the crow flies. And Tali checkpoints probably abound.

Huh. I wonder what Plan C is.
Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (F0YaR)

------

Amazon delivery drones.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (lwpML)

365 362 345 Max Abrahms
@MaxAbrahms
The Taliban response must be fierce and swift if it wants to cultivate any counterterrorism credibility.

No, 1st climate change, then counterterrorism credibility, then fiscal discipline.
Posted by: The Tolly-bon at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (UuD2k)

==========

Women's rights. Under Sharia, of course.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (LvTSG)

366 McKenzie is clearly held back by his command. Which is the President.

I heard him talking 3 weeks ago and he was all about "we will fight tomorrow if we have to."

Today he's like we will have to look at our procedures.

Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (mbFEM)

367 >>Pentagon Press Briefing: We've been giving the Taliban intelligence about possible terrorist attacks against the airport in hopes they will stop them. What a freaking disaster this entire thing is.

This is on par with outsourcing GAO db maintenance to a Chinese firm and then announcing the db was "hacked."

Posted by: Lizzy at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (bDqIh)

368 "Or pay attention in class."

You gotta put a couple bunkers of marines at the choke point to hold off the Zerglings.

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (B0mGw)

369
If there's ever another GOP President, it's because the Dems want it to happen.

I wouldn't expect any destruction of any Democrat institution from their next pet Republican.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (rZA2o)

370 They've had their thumbs on the scales for Democrats for decades. They are little more than a Fifth Column.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2021 02:20 PM (mdjgu)

Uniparty but yes.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (EjmW1)

371 "We've been giving the Taliban intelligence about possible terrorist attacks against the airport in hopes they will stop them."

Of course they did. That's why DoD didn't change their defensive posture at the checkpoints and we now have 13 KIA, 20 WIA, 10 critical.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (VpIIl)

372 "Pentagon confirms the United States will continue to rely on the Taliban for security outside of the airport."

And opium! Don't forget to mention the opium.

Posted by: The CIA at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (PbWF0)

373 Gee, who'd have predicted things would get so bad so quickly?

Why, everyone on this blog, that's who, along with every other sentient being in the US, none of which, obviously, are employed in government.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (2SdPm)

374 >>>my wife said "OMG we are being governed by a bunch of 8th graders."

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (r+sAi)
-------------------

Eighth graders wouldn't take that shit.

We are being governed by mentally disabled retards.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (m+yM6)

375 yep, what's your frequency there Gen Kenneth McKenzie Jr?

gah!

Posted by: micky at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (3byMq)

376

* bangs head on desk while strangling 2X4. *

Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (Tnijr)

377 You realize we could have kept the Taliban on the run just using US Special Forces, Air Power support, and local troops? They pretty much conquered the countery before we brought in conventional forces.

And for 1/10 the $$$. And probably 1/10 the casualties too.

But it would have been difficult. You do realize that the Taliban are Pashtun, and most of the Pashtun, Including a huge swathe of Pakistan, are Taliban. Pashtun are the plurality of Afghanistan, like 48% Pashtun. Add in a convenient Sanctuary Pakistan, full of Pashtun. And one Osama Bin Laden too.

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (Z32m1)

378 Can the deepthink Frum et al until we get our people out of there. Time for the Steiner and Stalingrad memes.

Posted by: Emily at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (2DqMj)

379 Yeah, boy! Cultivating counterterrorism credibility is first on their honey do list.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM

Yea, like when they are not chopping up gay people into tiny pieces like yesterday. They'll get right on that. He had to be joking, right? Right? SMFH.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (U9GPU)

380 You know what else was baked into the cake?

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (EjmW1)

381 By the way, has Kevin McCarthy called for a hearing yet? Maybe they can have it at Frank Luntz's pool.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (VpIIl)

382 Prayers for those taken.

Posted by: Ziba at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (S1hrL)

383 Hell, we could have won this thing in a few weeks by just non-stop, round the clock carpet bombing of everything that stood over 3 feet high.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 01:49 PM (s2VJv)

I was stoopid enough to think that's what we were going to do in Afghanistan.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (wAnMi)

384 346 From Day 1 I didn't understand why we didn't blast Tehran to smithereens on September 12th, end of story.
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:20 PM (EjmW1)

Technically the Iranians are from an entirely different denomination. Not that it means they wouldn't sponsor Sunni terrorist orgs, but they're generally not held to be related to that attack.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 26, 2021 02:24 PM (z5Vrg)

385 Let me get this straight.

The plan was to trust the afgan gov. military for support and protection which quickly folded to the taliban.

So they have now just shifted to a plan centered around trusting the taliban for support and protection from isis.

The previous team that sacked the early one has now been sacked by a new team which will fuck up in an entirely different and more expensive manner.

Posted by: banana Dream at August 26, 2021 02:24 PM (ZOfsH)

386 The thought of Dubya standing on the rubble of the WTC and belching up that "they are going to hear from all of us" makes me want to vomit in light of all this.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 26, 2021 02:13 PM (s2VJv)

**fistbump**

I was one of those urging Mecca be nuked.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2021 02:24 PM (2JVJo)

387 No, 1st climate change, then counterterrorism credibility, then fiscal discipline. Posted by: The Tolly-bon "

You forgot common sense gun control

Posted by: Ripley at August 26, 2021 02:24 PM (MxEKc)

388 Briefing:

*One bomber at Abbey gate.

* Not aware of any US civilian deaths at Abbey gate.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:24 PM (G0vdT)

389 Hey give Milley a break.

He's the one that has to go to the bunker tonight and tell DR. JILL BIDEN that Steiner's not coming.

Posted by: Auspex at August 26, 2021 02:24 PM (Xo3T0)

390 The greates American military failure snce Custer at Little Bighorn.

'I Don't see no damn indians" George Armstrong Custer

Posted by: BluesFish at August 26, 2021 02:24 PM (kPJ/p)

391 governed by a bunch of 8th graders."
-------------------

Eighth graders wouldn't take that shit.

We are being governed by mentally disabled retards.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (m+yM6)

Boy do we have some news for you.

Posted by: Mentally Disabled Retards at August 26, 2021 02:24 PM (EjmW1)

392 332. Tammy Pelosi has always been an evil Dem. Even her daughter warned people a couple of years ago how her mother would dice people up if they got in her way. Now that she is as much a bag of senility as Biden any inhibition is gone and she has no concern regarding political fallout since she is not going to run for another term.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 26, 2021 02:25 PM (tWCr6)

393 McKenzie appears to be another fucking hack, eh?

Posted by: micky at August 26, 2021 02:25 PM (3byMq)

394 Join me live in San Francisco with Mayor London Breed, elected officials and community leaders to commemorate Women's Equality Day.

You should hold it at Bagram Nanzi. I hear it's empty so you'll have plenty of room. Don't forget to pack your extra dentures and depends.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 26, 2021 02:25 PM (U9GPU)

395 Women's rights. Under Sharia, of course.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 02:22 PM (LvTSG)

Woke women are already all in on wearing face coverings and staying home. Is the jump from there really so great?

Posted by: Bete at August 26, 2021 02:25 PM (Ojki1)

396 And in my head, over and over again, The Animals "We Gotta Get Out Of This Place."

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2021 02:25 PM (axyOa)

397 Briefing:

* Can't confirm other attacks at this time.

* Aircraft is prime target. Don't know if ISIS has attack cabability.

* Planes have a defense mechanisms.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (G0vdT)

398 387 No, 1st climate change, then counterterrorism credibility, then fiscal discipline. Posted by: The Tolly-bon "

You forgot common sense gun control

that's included in climate change.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (v3pYe)

399 but they're generally not held to be related to that attack.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 26, 2021 02:24 PM (z5Vrg)

But they remain the epicenter of global terrorism.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (EjmW1)

400 In my tiny defense, I thought we would actually, you know, defeat the enemy first.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics

NeoCons and NeoLibs have always been the enemy.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (EsChm)

401 Posted by: SH (Non-Expert) at August 26, 2021 02:18 PM (sX1BW)

the problem was that for some reason we were not wiling to confront Pakistan about their involvement in all this.

Bin L was in PAKISTAN for years. There were Taliban training camps and hospitals in Pak... Supply lines went through Pak AND Iran.

All this while we were giving Pakistan $1.6 Billion a year in combined Aid??? WT actual F?

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (oHd/0)

402 I think W Bush was to be commended for his response in the early days. It was what he did later in Iraq and with the mission creep in Afghanistan that should weigh heavily on people.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (VpIIl)

403 Now comes this ...

Did America just lose Afghanistan because of WhatsApp?

Theory that the Afghan government was so weak and abandoned by Biden that the Taliban merely sent out WhatsApp messages saying they were in control and began assuming the functions of government as they went.
Seems the bluff is still useful.

Posted by: SMOD at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (RHGPo)

404 But it would have been difficult. You do realize that the Taliban are Pashtun, and most of the Pashtun, Including a huge swathe of Pakistan, are Taliban. Pashtun are the plurality of Afghanistan, like 48% Pashtun. Add in a convenient Sanctuary Pakistan, full of Pashtun. And one Osama Bin Laden too.

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2021 02:23 PM (Z32m1)
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Then get them together and explain - kill an American and we'll foul up your day...bigly.
They can play hankey pankey when we leave.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (m+yM6)

405 Taliban condemns attack by their goat fucking cousins on their mother's side. Mom's side was always wonky.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (oWBc3)

406 I don't know when this briefing started; it'll be archived when it's over:

Defense Department Briefing on Afghanistan
Pentagon Spokesman John Kirby and CENTCOM Commander General Kenneth McKenzie brief reporters on today's suicide bombing attacks outside Kabul International Airport that left many dead and injured, including 11 Marines and one Navy medic.

https://tinyurl.com/4ppep2b5

Posted by: m at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (Zsfob)

407 Let's see, tomorrow is Friday.
Which means the mosques in Kabul are going to be packed as the locals try to prove how devout they are.

Which will:
A) Result in more suicide bombings against the apostates and infidels
B) Convince ISIS they did the right thing today.

There is not a "US military restores peace" option anymore.

Posted by: Lrrr at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (eK5G3)

408 From about 2008 forward there was a pretty big troll-net composed of anti-Semitic Euro's and red-brown NASHI Russians spamming conservative comment sections about Neocon perfidy.

Wolfowitz was their talisman of hate. Much of this was happening as our troops were sealing off Sadr City. We either pushed back or let the trolls win the comment section debates.

Posted by: 13times at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (KGlLG)

409 Nancy Pelosi
@SpeakerPelosi
Join me live in San Francisco with Mayor London Breed, elected officials and community leaders to commemorate Women's Equality Day.
Nancy Pelosi
@SpeakerPelosi
Press Event to Commemorate Women's Equality Day
11:59 AM · Aug 26, 2021

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (MFZ8i)

410 McKenzie is clearly held back by his command. Which is the President.

I heard him talking 3 weeks ago and he was all about "we will fight tomorrow if we have to."

Today he's like we will have to look at our procedures.
Posted by: blaster

Regardless of his career, he's a big pussy. Either he supports his force, lays his stars on the table and demands the right thing, or just walks away.
This was what made Viet Nam go on SO LONG and be such a mess. General officers that KNEW BETTER but were afraid to tell the truth to their civilian "masters".

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (vcOmj)

411 Uh...so um we must remember, my loyal subjects, that we must not fear, is uh...oh anyways...

My administration is working up a uh * smirks* strongly worded letter in response to the attacks in K-Bull this morning

Posted by: President Pudding Brains at August 26, 2021 02:27 PM (FPuSC)

412 Wow, this general is completely detached and out of his fucking mind.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2021 02:27 PM (9h4bD)

413 Eighth graders wouldn't take that shit.

Eighth graders understand the rule of the playground.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2021 02:27 PM (axyOa)

414 Is this what an insurrection looks like?

Asking for some mostly peaceful protesters currently rotting in prison as political prisoners.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 26, 2021 02:27 PM (lwpML)

415 Sub text? That sounds like how the Left criticizes. You didn't say it but that's what you meant.

We kicked the Taliban's ass and they hid in their spider holes until we stupidly telegraphed our withdrawal. We then doubled down on the stupidity by the incompetent withdrawal plan.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 26, 2021 02:27 PM (2DOZq)

416 I know the answer to the question General, its because the Taliban wanted them to get through the checkpoints you dumbass.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 26, 2021 02:27 PM (r+sAi)

417 When did the idea start that after going to war, we have to make the place look better than it did before?

I'm guessing right around the same time the Industrial Military Complex came to power that Eisenhower warned us about. You're talking about trillions of dollars when we engage in this.

Posted by: Blago at August 26, 2021 02:27 PM (P2ImT)

418 I think I'm going to have to disagree with the overall thesis. Yes, nation-building is a waste of time with all the traitors we have in the government, _but so is everything else_. We can't even fight a virus without some bureaucrat with a beatific smile killing six million people because he helped make it and the Chinese will expose him if he doesn't.

We're still going to have to fight wars and fight irregular ugly wars; we're going to need to purge the assholes so that we can actually function.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Chernyenko My Coat At The Cleaners at August 26, 2021 02:27 PM (ZZqSG)

419 Meanwhile in the land of ivory towers:

@SpeakerPelosi 26m

Join me live in San Francisco with Mayor London Breed, elected officials and community leaders to commemorate Women's Equality Day. https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1OdKrVXZrAlKX

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:27 PM (wAnMi)

420 I have a hunch that Biden is in a room full of advisors, pointing at a map and assuring everyone that Steiner will keep the airport secure

Posted by: kbdabear at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (qAR6u)

421 ISIS claims responsibility.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (pNmvf)

422
Wasn't me!

It was those guys -----> /points to bearded muslims who look just like them/

Yeah, it was Isis. Blame them.

Posted by: The Taliban at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (G/QLV)

423 Bidenmerica 2021

Working with:

✔ Taliban

✖ Trump Supporters

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (DXFDM)

424 Woke women are already all in on wearing face coverings and staying home. Is the jump from there really so great?
Posted by: Bete at August 26, 2021 02:25 PM (Ojki1)

If Jesse Kelly reads this blog, he should totally use this line to justify nuking the 19th Amendment.

Posted by: Thrawn at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (wQb4c)

425 my wife said "OMG we are being governed by a bunch of 8th graders."

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 26, 2021 02:17 PM (r+sAi)
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Eighth graders wouldn't take that shit.

We are being governed by mentally disabled retards.
==
IM BE CILES.

Posted by: AOS HQ style guide update committee chair at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (EVb3L)

426 Women's Equality Day.
Nancy Pelosi
@SpeakerPelosi
Press Event to Commemorate Women's Equality Day
11:59 AM Aug 26, 2021
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (MFZ8i)

Hard to not believe they're just fucking with us most days.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (EjmW1)

427 Milley should know better. He's a Q COurse grad with some miles under his boots. But he traded his honesty and temerity for some academic accolades and some stars. They should retire every single GO and a bunch of field grades for this debacle.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (VpIIl)

428
We will be deploying the 12th Mechanized Influencers Brigade.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (/U27+)

429 Oh trust me. McKenzie should be fired.

Posted by: blaster at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (mbFEM)

430 Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (MFZ8i)

Beat me by /`\ this much!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (wAnMi)

431 All this while we were giving Pakistan $1.6 Billion a year in combined Aid???

Frankly, $1.6 billion doesn't go that far in a corrupt nation like Pakistan with 216 million.

Posted by: SMOD at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (RHGPo)

432 346 From Day 1 I didn't understand why we didn't blast Tehran to smithereens on September 12th, end of story.
Posted by: ...

We needed to save that boogeyman for last.

Posted by: NeoCons planning out PNAC in 1996 at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (EsChm)

433 LOL Harvard's new chaplain is...

an atheist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (KZzsI)

434 My kid's Social Studies teacher made sure to tell the class it's Trumps fault.

I love public education.

Posted by: Blago at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (P2ImT)

435 My conclusions.

1. We left bagram because that was a towlie demand. They, China, Paki, Iran, Russia all wanted to make sure the US had no permanent base. They insisted and biden ordered to show we had good faith in leaving.

2. military initially slow walked the withdrawal preparation knowing there was no way to do it and biden would not insist.

3. Biden demanded it because he wanted to be "presidential". He had nothing to lose since everyone thought he was on his way out already. But he wanted to be historic by making bold moves.

4. There is no way the dems will ever admit to failure or mistake. They will work on rewriting this just like they did with everything else they have done.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (fYOdT)

436 Jennifer Griffin, the national security correspondent for Fox News, said at least 12 service members died in the terror attacks. The attack is now the deadliest in Afghanistan since Aug. 6, 2011, when 30 Americans, including 22 Navy SEALs, were shot down over Wardak Province.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (UHVv4)

437 If there's ever another GOP President, it's because the Dems want it to happen.

I've always said that Giuliani was "allowed" to be elected mayor the second time he ran because NYC had gotten so bad, the powers that be didn't want another Democrat.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (mR6Gs)

438 I have a question. I know David Frum is a pathetic piece of trash , but....
Nevermind

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (cSyAR)

439 Pentagon: Don't worry. ISIS doesn't have the capability to take down an aircraft.

Oh, OK. No worries.

Posted by: Ziba at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (S1hrL)

440 From twitter, Pentagon Press Briefing: We've been giving the Taliban intelligence about possible terrorist attacks against the airport in hopes they will stop them.
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2021 02:19 PM (pNmvf)

Darkly hilarious if true.
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:21 PM (EjmW1)

WHAT THE FUCK ELSE CAN WE DO?

They will not let us run patrols and hostage retrieval runs into Kabul. Think this administration will let us attack ISIS or AL Qaeda cells in Kabul?

At least maybe, maybe the Taliban will stop them, just to keep their own people from being hurt or killed? More than anything Biden will let our people do.

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (Z32m1)

441 I want someone to shoot this Colonel Asslicker on TV.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (yQpMk)

442 Hard to not believe they're just fucking with us most days.
Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM (EjmW1)

And shit like this:
@RealSaavedra 14m
Biden's military says they are relying on the Taliban to "protect us" at the Kabul airport as 12+ U.S. soldiers have been killed.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (wAnMi)

443 Where's Joe?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (R/m4+)

444
LOL Harvard's new chaplain is...

an atheist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

__________

At least he's upfront about it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (/U27+)

445 351 I wish I had something to strangle.

there's always choking the chicken...

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (oY6Yp)

446 * Can't confirm other attacks at this time.

* Aircraft is prime target. Don't know if ISIS has attack cabability.

* Planes have a defense mechanisms.
Posted by: WisRich

Military planes can fire off flares to decoy heat-seeking shoulder - launched AA missiles. That's what they've got.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (vcOmj)

447 Watching Biden's Spokesdummies is like watching an 8th grade presentation of Little Women. This is amateur hour at it's most embarrassing. I wouldn't trust these people to walk my dog.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (VpIIl)

448 "Join me live in San Francisco with Mayor London Breed, elected officials and community leaders to commemorate Women's Equality Day."

Join me live in Kabul with the Taliban, unelected officials, and community leaders to commemorate Women's Equality Under Sharia Day.

Posted by: Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (Tnijr)

449 Given the scale of disaster facing the country, you can expect to hear calls for "national unity" and for moderation.

Don't fall for them. Marxists and the Propaganda Press, along with their handmaidens in the Democrat Party have brought all this down on us and they must be held fully accountable. Fully.

Until the Democrats, the Press, and the Marxist NGO leaders are driven from public life, the pressure cannot moderate. No mercy. These people depend on Conservatives to fix their messes. They can write apologies from exile for all I care. Screw David Frum. Jonah Goldberg. And all the NeverTrumpers. Every dead Marine in Kabul is your fault.

AOC. The "squad". Nancy Pelosi (SPIT!), Schumer, McConnell, all of them. Go screw yourselves.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (w35Im)

450 Damn them all to Hell

And fuck their 'optics' side with a flaming glass encrusted-pineapple

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (W7h8L)

451
Wait for it, everyone. It's coming.

We are going to be told by the fake "intelligence community" that Isis has "taken responsibility" in a "video."
Posted by: Soothsayer with hair colored yellow at August 26, 2021 01:32 PM

ISIS claims responsibility.
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2021 02:28 PM

Sure they did.

Posted by: The Taliban at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (G/QLV)

452 I miss President Trump so so much.

Posted by: IC at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (hV9ir)

453 Biden has let more Taliban terrorists out of prison than American citizens arrested for 1/6/21 "unauthorized parading"

Posted by: Lrrr at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (eK5G3)

454 439 Pentagon: Don't worry. ISIS doesn't have the capability to take down an aircraft.

Oh, OK. No worries.
Posted by: Ziba at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (S1hrL)

What if Iran were to loan them some of those SAMs they looted from Libya?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (z5Vrg)

455 At least maybe, maybe the Taliban will stop them, just to keep their own people from being hurt or killed? More than anything Biden will let our people do.
Posted by: rd at August 26, 2021 02:30 PM (Z32m1)

And the Taliban have kept one promise, instead of raping more little girls they're fucking corpses. That's not rape if they're dead, is it?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (wAnMi)

456 General McKenzie: We only have two things to fear. Fear itself, and a weird creepy drooling vegetable has the nuclear codes.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (EjmW1)

457 There is not a "US military restores peace" option anymore.

Posted by: Lrrr at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (eK5G3)

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BREAKING: Biden Outsources Peacekeeping Iperation in Afghanistan to China. Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (lwpML)

458 Eighth graders wouldn't take that shit.

Eighth graders understand the rule of the playground.
==
You punch the bully and walk away. You don't go to the bully's house and tell his fat mom to make you a grilled cheese sandwich. That's just stupid.

Posted by: I'm not a Sun Tzu, but I know a stupid plan when I see one at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (1IIz7)

459 Biden is going to get more Americans killed in Afghanistan in a week than died over the last 10 years.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (yQpMk)

460 What was it Biden said last week? It was all priced into his decision.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (kTF2Z)

461 8th graders? No. Under the constant threat of blackmail.

Posted by: Garland at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (ONvIw)

462 So let's recap the Pentagon briefing:

They're collecting attack intelligence and passing it onto the Taliban, the same Taliban that let the suicide bomber through several check points so they could kill Marines at the Abbey gate.

No words.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:32 PM (G0vdT)

463 We're still going to have to fight wars and fight irregular ugly wars; we're going to need to purge the assholes so that we can actually function.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Chernyenko My Coat At The Cleaners at August 26, 2021 02:27 PM (ZZqSG)

Let me introduce you to the Romeo13 Doctrine. If a group, or country, attacks us, we bomb them back to the Stone Age... then leave. Do NOT invade. Do NOT occupy. Do NOT try to nation build.

Even our own Founding Documents say that its a people right and DUTY to change their government, if it is not doing right by them... thus, the PEOPLE ARE responsible for what their government does.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 26, 2021 02:32 PM (oHd/0)

464 You know...

you could fit a few tribes of Afghan Refugees on that Ranch in Crawford Mr. Bush, Sir.

Posted by: garrett at August 26, 2021 02:32 PM (dX8QE)

465 End of Days-World of Hatred | Bible Prophecy Update | Revelation 17:5-18 | 8/22/21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReAbmUmp1WE

Posted by: SMH - The war has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at August 26, 2021 02:32 PM (wparq)

466 Breaking911
@Breaking911
LOOK: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi fired off a series of tweets Thursday reminding everyone it's Women's Equality Day. Not a word that 4 U.S. Marines were just reportedly killed in Kabul along with countless Afghans.
twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1430953633353449475/
11:01 AM · Aug 26, 2021

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2021 02:32 PM (MFZ8i)

467 @383.

Yes, but Biden chose not to.

Posted by: Ziba at August 26, 2021 02:32 PM (S1hrL)

468 How is it that the Taliban are finding people with the Bible on the Cell Phones but they allow folks wearing a bomb vest to wander about ?

Posted by: SMOD at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (RHGPo)

469 Gen. McKenzie said he expected attacks on the airport. I wonder if Biden will claim no one told him troops on or inside the perimeter were at risk from suicide bombers? Saying no one told him about possible risks has been Biden's Standard Operating Procedure on his Afghanistan chaos, for the past four months.

Posted by: Gref at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (AMIL/)

470 so I'm guessing this is Afghani civil war
guess what - both sides hate us

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion (oEn12) at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (oEn12)

471 We and especially the Soviet Red Army brought personal pain and rape, mostly rape, to the Germans. And we dropped every atomic weapon on hand on Japan, with plans for 10-15 more.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 26, 2021 01:53 PM (u82oZ)

Remember hearing in a book about the last days that when the Soviet army captured a town, they called in the mayor and shot him. "We shoot all burgomeisters".

Posted by: Oldcat at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (eoQWY)

472 Biden is going to get more Americans killed in Afghanistan in a week than died over the last 10 years.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (yQpMk)

So what you're saying is he's accomplished more than Obama and Trump combined?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (wAnMi)

473 Yeah, put Kameltoe in there. She's incompetent but not demented. They picked someone unqualified to run for President and VP. They can't paper over their mistake forever.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (5HBd1)

474 I doubt anyone can pull the Muslims out of the 8th century

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (znIQ9)

475 Are there any fucking adults in the pentagon?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (kTF2Z)

476 "Republicans in Congress quickly escalate their criticism of President Biden's withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan after Kabul blasts"

Posted by: @CNNPolitics at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (a3Q+t)

477
Punish A'stan? Sure. Why not? The goatfuckers had it coming.

Annihilate A'stan? Taller order, but doable. Not sure that would be worth the effort, but ok, maybe it's better to simply kill them all, and leave the goats to thank you.

Why build A'stan? If it were even possible, it wouldn't be worth the effort. Best you could ever hope for is a slightly less horrible goatfucker country. It's not as if these people are capable of anything valuable to themselves or anyone else.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (rZA2o)

478 Resettle the Afghans at Martha's Vineyard.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (W7h8L)

479 >Pentagon: Don't worry. ISIS doesn't have the capability to take down an aircraft.

Oh, OK. No worries.
Posted by: Ziba at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (S1hrL)

Welp, we know what's coming next.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (DXFDM)

480 Pure deflection. We did it all the time. We had staging points and overall plans for an EVAC. We could also handle all the entrances if people showed up in person. It's really not that hard, Jake the Fake.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:04 PM (VpIIl)

Exactly. One of the tasks my unit (3D LAR BN) was responsible for was TRAP missions (Tactical Recovery of Aircraft Personnel who were downed inside enemy lines. We trained for it continuously. Rescuing people 30 miles away is not a new concept.

Jake is one of those who looks for excuses while others are looking for solutions. Don't be like Jake.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (49Exr)

481 Pentagon: Don't worry. ISIS doesn't have the capability to take down an aircraft.

Oh, OK. No worries.
Posted by: Ziba at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (S1hrL)

A barrage of RPGs or a salvo of mortars onto the runway, and tell me what the difference would be???

Aircraft are a huge, very complex machine covered by a thin skin of aluminum. Don't take much.

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (Z32m1)

482 Letting the Taliban know what you know is TIGHT

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:34 PM (EjmW1)

483 "Pentagon: Don't worry. ISIS doesn't have the capability to take down an aircraft. "

Aircraft on the flight path at HKIA is already reportedly taking some small arms fire. They have DShK's and PK's. I am pretty sure that a 12.7x108mm would damage an aircraft in range. Pretty sure...

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:34 PM (VpIIl)

484 "Women's Equality Day.
Nancy Pelosi
@SpeakerPelosi
Press Event to Commemorate Women's Equality Day"

That will show those Taliban we are serious!

Posted by: Ripley at August 26, 2021 02:34 PM (MxEKc)

485 A five hour long hearing on the Jan. 6 insurrection, followed by an update from the Pentagon regarding the most dangerous threats facing our country, White Supremacists and Climate Change. After that, a replay of yesterday's testimony from Anthony Fauci regarding the need for triple vaccinating and quadruple masking.

Posted by: Next up on CSPAN at August 26, 2021 02:34 PM (dYe5S)

486 Just another day under President Elphinstone.

Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at August 26, 2021 02:34 PM (OUMaO)

487 I think W Bush was to be commended for his response in the early days. It was what he did later in Iraq and with the mission creep in Afghanistan that should weigh heavily on people.
Posted by: Marcus T

This is true. In fact it was W's idea to use that jive turkey looking Bin Laden double on film to claim he planned 9/11 in confession. Black Bin Laden and the rubes bought it.
*slaps knee laughs in bald eagle*
Ole W was a rube so he knew rubes all to well.

Posted by: Dick Cheney at August 26, 2021 02:34 PM (EsChm)

488 "Pentagon: Don't worry. ISIS doesn't have the capability to take down an aircraft."

I think they got the Red Baron with a Lewis gun.

Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:34 PM (Tnijr)

489 Are there any fucking adults in the pentagon?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (kTF2Z)

Ummmmmm....No.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 26, 2021 02:34 PM (R/m4+)

490 >>>Pentagon: Don't worry. ISIS doesn't have the capability to take down an aircraft.

They never want to learn how to land those things.

Posted by: CIA Flight School at August 26, 2021 02:35 PM (dX8QE)

491 439 Pentagon: Don't worry. ISIS doesn't have the capability to take down an aircraft.

Oh, OK. No worries.
Posted by: Ziba at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (S1hrL)

Unless of course those means were also in the abandoned military weaponry just left behind.

But I'm sure the military made sure that those were unusable...

Posted by: Bete at August 26, 2021 02:35 PM (Ojki1)

492 We're still going to have to fight wars and fight irregular ugly wars; we're going to need to purge the assholes so that we can actually function.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Chernyenko My Coat At The Cleaners at August 26, 2021 02:27 PM (ZZqSG)

The army used to be good at fighting wars since the 90s. The problem is that that has nothing to do with an occupation. They have no training for it and no doctrine for it.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 26, 2021 02:35 PM (eoQWY)

493 433 LOL Harvard's new chaplain is...

an atheist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (KZzsI)

Unbelievable. Harvard was founded to train clergymen.

Harvard University: 1636 - 2021.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2021 02:35 PM (mdjgu)

494 a Lewis gun * on the ground *

Posted by: f'd at August 26, 2021 02:35 PM (Tnijr)

495
In a few minutes we're going to have a press conference expressing our deepest sympathies for the lives lost today...while doing our best to keep a straight face.

Posted by: The Taliban at August 26, 2021 02:35 PM (G/QLV)

496 Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2021 02:32 PM (MFZ8i)

People don't want to pay for a $40k/plate fundraiser event if the host is going to be a killjoy. I'm sure they were enjoying their blissful ignorance in Napa as we were slinking away in the dead of night half a world away.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:35 PM (wAnMi)

497 It seems an ISIS member somehow got past a Taliban checkpoint at the airport and exploded a suicide vest at an American checkpoint.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2021 02:35 PM (pNmvf)

498 Yesterday: Taliban == enemy
Today: ISIS == enemy && Taliban == partners

Posted by: gp at August 26, 2021 02:35 PM (qpX6U)

499 Pentagon: Don't worry. ISIS doesn't have the capability to take down an aircraft.

Except for the very shit we left them.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2021 02:35 PM (Z+uwH)

500 Politico sells to German publishing giant Axel Springer in deal worth about $1 billion

Posted by: SMOD at August 26, 2021 02:36 PM (RHGPo)

501 > How is it that the Taliban are finding people with the Bible on the Cell Phones but they allow folks wearing a bomb vest to wander about ?

Exactly. They LIHOP.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:36 PM (UW2ZS)

502 Join me live in Kabul with the Taliban, unelected officials, and community leaders to commemorate Women's Equality Under Sharia Day.
Posted by: Mohammed Mohammed Mohammed

And Save The Earth day....with interpretive dance

Posted by: Bruce at August 26, 2021 02:36 PM (vd8XM)

503 >>Letting the Taliban know what you know is TIGHT

There's a suspicous looking guy on Bakalakadaka Street!

Posted by: garrett at August 26, 2021 02:36 PM (dX8QE)

504 Only adult in the five sided puzzle palace on the Potomac is when NGU visits.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2021 02:36 PM (W7h8L)

505 I was going to drink tonight anyway, but after reading about the airport explosions....

*gets out the Jello shots*

Posted by: pookysgirl has idland pineapple flavor for those interested at August 26, 2021 02:36 PM (XKZwp)

506 My kid's Social Studies teacher made sure to tell the class it's Trumps fault.

I love public education.
Posted by: Blago at August 26, 2021 02:29 PM (P2ImT)

Fuck you, teach!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 26, 2021 02:36 PM (2JVJo)

507 She's incompetent but not demented. They picked someone unqualified to run for President and VP. They can't paper over their mistake forever.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM

Not forever, just until 2024, at which time:

Old news.
Mistakes were made.
Some people did some things.
What difference, at this point, does it make?

Posted by: Democrat Party, a division of Uniparty, Inc. at August 26, 2021 02:36 PM (a3Q+t)

508 The only thing David Frum has ever fought is the notion that maybe he shouldn't stuff another pastry in his maw. He obliterated it - the notion and the pastry.

Posted by: SFGoth (KAi1n) at August 26, 2021 02:36 PM (KAi1n)

509 I'm going there, anyone who got out of Afghanistan in the last few days, including the El Cajon idiots, needs to dedicate their lives to the ideals of the former USA. Sanctified in blood today.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at August 26, 2021 02:36 PM (oWBc3)

510 457 BREAKING: Biden Outsources Peacekeeping Iperation in Afghanistan to China. Developing ...

leave me out of this

Posted by: Ip Man at August 26, 2021 02:37 PM (v3pYe)

511 So let's recap the Pentagon briefing:

They're collecting attack intelligence and passing it onto the Taliban, the same Taliban that let the suicide bomber through several check points so they could kill Marines at the Abbey gate.

No words.
Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:32 PM (G0vdT)

Surely...Surely these idiots understand that the "Taliban" at one gate may have nothing to do with the Taliban at another gate, and in fact, may actually hate their guts?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2021 02:37 PM (axyOa)

512
Pentagon: Don't worry. ISIS doesn't have the capability to take down an aircraft.

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Uh-oh. That means we have less than a 48 hours before they shoot down one of our aircraft.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2021 02:37 PM (rZA2o)

513 460. The teleprompter drivel his speechwriter is cobbling together will remind us that he said this was dangerous. Then somehow blame Trump while claiming the buck stops with him.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 26, 2021 02:37 PM (tWCr6)

514 I miss President Trump so so much.
Posted by: IC at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (hV9ir)

No one on TV is mentioning his name in relation to this

Odd, no?
It's like they don't want to remind. us

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 02:37 PM (mR6Gs)

515 Woke women are already all in on wearing face coverings and staying home. Is the jump from there really so great?
Posted by: Bete at August 26, 2021 02:25 PM (Ojki1)

No man should hear a woman's voice. That's gonna be the deal killer.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 26, 2021 02:37 PM (T7iTv)

516 462 So let's recap the Pentagon briefing:

They're collecting attack intelligence and passing it onto the Taliban, the same Taliban that let the suicide bomber through several check points so they could kill Marines at the Abbey gate.

No words.
Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:32 PM (G0vdT)

--------

"Not to worry, comrade -- we're playing one-dimensional chess here."

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 26, 2021 02:37 PM (lwpML)

517 Biden signs bill to pair veterans with puppies to fight PTSD and reduce suicides

We are gonna need a lot of puppies

Posted by: SMOD at August 26, 2021 02:37 PM (RHGPo)

518 Surely...Surely these idiots understand that the "Taliban" at one gate may have nothing to do with the Taliban at another gate, and in fact, may actually hate their guts?
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2021 02:37 PM (axyOa)

Very concise and correct assessment.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 02:38 PM (mR6Gs)

519 @SpeakerPelosi 18 mins

Join me live in San Francisco with Mayor London Breed, elected officials and community leaders to commemorate Women's Equality Day.

She's just horrific.

Can't be bothered with trivial foreign policy issues right now. She's busy working on her succession speach and redecoration plans for the WH.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Non timebo mala at August 26, 2021 02:38 PM (Vxryl)

520 Just getting around to see what missed in the day and see the bomber at Kabul.
A start of jihad?

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2021 02:38 PM (znIQ9)

521 >>We are gonna need a lot of puppies

Turnin' her over, Boss.

Posted by: garrett at August 26, 2021 02:38 PM (dX8QE)

522 >Jake is one of those who looks for excuses while others are looking for solutions. Don't be like Jake.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (49Exr)

Does Jakey, Famous Lover of the Military, have any criticism for this absolute goat rope that's already resulted in scores of American servicemembers killed and maimed?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 26, 2021 02:38 PM (DXFDM)

523 Republicans in Congress quickly escalate their criticism of President Biden's withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan after Kabul blasts"
Posted by: @CNNPolitics at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (a3Q+t)

Say yesterday's WaPo front page headline walking out of 7-11. Biden "affirms the Aug 31st deadline". I started laughing so loud everyone looked over at me.

LOL Biden "affirms" deadline, instead of the reality: Taliban tells Biden that America will GTFO when they say so.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 26, 2021 02:38 PM (49Exr)

524 I miss President Trump so so much.
Posted by: IC at August 26, 2021 02:31 PM (hV9ir)

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One of Trumps biggest mistakes was thinking that we would get tired of winning. I didn't get tired of winning.

I'm sure tired of losing though.

Posted by: 496 at August 26, 2021 02:38 PM (VJsqe)

525 "Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (49Exr)"

SOF and other units already were running these exercises outside the HKIA wire. What makes this idiot think we couldn't do the same into Bagram, and more safely.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:38 PM (VpIIl)

526 They have to say its ISIS because Biden threatened the Taliban with consequences, so now we know he will do nothing.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 26, 2021 02:39 PM (r+sAi)

527
Germans are retards, I guess. Who pays $1b for... Politico???

Not smart. SAD!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2021 02:39 PM (rZA2o)

528 Biden signs bill to pair veterans with puppies to fight PTSD and reduce suicides
___

This is so insulting, I don't even know where to begin.

Posted by: SMH - The war has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at August 26, 2021 02:39 PM (wparq)

529 Batshit. Insane.

@SpeakerPelosi - 1h
Proud to meet with religious leaders & @UniteThePoor yesterday at the Capitol.

I came to Congress for our children. No child should ever go to sleep hungry. Thanks to @POTUS, we have a transformative opportunity to #BuildBackBetter for every family.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:39 PM (wAnMi)

530 How is it that the Taliban are finding people with the Bible on the Cell Phones but they allow folks wearing a bomb vest to wander about ?
Posted by: SMOD at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (RHGPo)

Google is helping them with the cell phones.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:39 PM (EjmW1)

531 Let me introduce you to the Romeo13 Doctrine. If a group, or country, attacks us, we bomb them back to the Stone Age... then leave. Do NOT invade. Do NOT occupy. Do NOT try to nation build.

Even our own Founding Documents say that its a people right and DUTY to change their government, if it is not doing right by them... thus, the PEOPLE ARE responsible for what their government does.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 26, 2021 02:32 PM (oHd/0)

I'm all for that. I would use centari mass drivers and hit that section of the planet until the earth looked like a fucking lifesaver candy.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 26, 2021 02:39 PM (VwHCD)

532 CNN "Biden Braces For Fallout As His Dire Warnings Come True"

That's right, CNN is trying to somehow spin today as showing Biden at his most prescient.

No words.

Destroy CNN.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (w35Im)

533 The Afghans have failed David French.

Posted by: WiNO - The Odds Are Never in Our Favor at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (EpDzw)

534 We are gonna need a lot of puppies
Posted by: SMOD at August 26, 2021 02:37 PM (RHGPo)

-----------

Do you mind if they're dead?

Posted by: Australia at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (kTF2Z)

535 Holy Shit.

SCOOP: U.S. officials gave the Taliban a list of names of U.S. citizens, green card holders & Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport, prompting outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials.

https://bit.ly/3gAkEFd

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (UW2ZS)

536 Politico claiming that US officials gave the Taliban a list of names of US citizens, green card holders, and Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport.

https://tinyurl.com/5fzed2tc

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (mf5HN)

537 If Politico is worth 1 Billion Dollars...

this place HAS to be worth at leat 50 bucks. Right?

Posted by: garrett at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (dX8QE)

538 From a Politico reporter : "U.S. officials gave a list of names of US citizens, green card holders ans Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport, prompting outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials."

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (pNmvf)

539 We are gonna need a lot of puppies

Posted by: SMOD at August 26, 2021 02:37 PM (RHGPo)

---------------
Australia is out as a source of puppy imports.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (TNyrE)

540 Attack happened at gate where Marines do body search.
___

Dear Lord.

They didn't have a chance.

MANY of the Marines on that duty are/were FEMALE! Because not to have females there would be politically incorrect and offensive. "equity"

Posted by: jeff at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (uAI4S)

541 Biden signs bill to pair veterans with puppies to fight PTSD and reduce suicides
___

This is so insulting, I don't even know where to begin.
Posted by: SMH - The war has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at August 26, 2021 02:39 PM (wparq)

I would give away my life savings if I could swap this timeline with Idiocracy. In a heartbeat.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (wAnMi)

542 *shoves coke through USB port for bonhomme*

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 26, 2021 02:41 PM (mf5HN)

543 "The teleprompter drivel his speechwriter is cobbling together will remind us that he said this was dangerous."

Wish I knew how to hack a teleprompter, or swap out the reel. I could make Joe say anything.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 26, 2021 02:41 PM (49Exr)

544 Biden signs bill to pair veterans with puppies to fight PTSD and reduce suicides
___

Biden will give out puppies
The Taliban will provide poppies

Posted by: JoeF. at August 26, 2021 02:41 PM (mR6Gs)

545 U.S. officials gave the Taliban a list of names of U.S. citizens, green card holders & Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport, prompting outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials.
___

God help them.

Because no one else will.

Posted by: SMH - The war has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at August 26, 2021 02:41 PM (wparq)

546 Biden signs bill to pair veterans with puppies to fight PTSD and reduce suicides

We are gonna need a lot of puppies
Posted by: SMOD

We shoot puppies, don't we?

Posted by: Australian Cops (not Joe Mannix) at August 26, 2021 02:41 PM (vcOmj)

547 "and" Afghan allies..

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2021 02:41 PM (pNmvf)

548 Holy Shit.

SCOOP: U.S. officials gave the Taliban a list of names of U.S. citizens, green card holders & Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport, prompting outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials.

https://bit.ly/3gAkEFd
Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (UW2ZS)

Motherfuckers! These deaths are intentional.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2021 02:41 PM (yQpMk)

549 WE GAVE THE TALIBAN LISTS OF OUR PEOPLE AND OUR AFGHAN ALLIES.

HOLY. SHIT.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:41 PM (UW2ZS)

550 Jim Swift
@JimSwiftDC·34m
The Pentagon effort to use U.S. airlines to ease conditions at overseas military bases crowded with Afghan refugees is creating a new bottleneck at Dulles International Airport
WSJ News Exclusive - Afghanistan Evacuation Effort Causes Bottleneck at Dulles Airport

Jim Swift @JimSwiftDC·30m
We have many airports that are unnecessary that we could use so people don't have to wait 10 hours on a freakin' plane. Get the ANG and take over Mid America airport in Mascoutah, IL.

Jim Swift Retweeted Nicholas Grossman @NGrossman81
You don't have to take seriously those who see US troops getting killed primarily as an opportunity to repeat preconceived domestic political talking points without considering strategic circumstances or realistic alternatives to US actions.
They're not taking it seriously either
12:02 PM · Aug 26, 2021

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2021 02:42 PM (MFZ8i)

551 At this stage, does ISIS and Taliban just shake hands and say "hey, let's just invade America...I mean, why not?"

The lefty media and Punchy's nurses are spinning like tops, but its not going to over-ride the death of 12 servicemen and many civilians in a day, especially since there is every likelihood of much more blood to come - its useless now, this futile gaslighting. I see that in some instances, they've stopped pretending and have just suggested Americans deserved it, that Punchy predicted this all along and no one would listen, a saintly future voice in wilderness of "hey I want to stay in Kabul and get beheaded" Iowan deplorableness. What could Saint Punchy do? Just hang his head in sadness, I guess...he warned 'em...

Posted by: Boswell at August 26, 2021 02:42 PM (5iUNf)

552 537 this place HAS to be worth at leat 50 bucks. Right?
Posted by: garrett at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (dX8QE)

=========

Worth of Web says just under $600,000. I think that's all of mu.nu, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 02:42 PM (LvTSG)

553 Politico claiming that US officials gave the Taliban a list of names of US citizens, green card holders, and Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport.
===
When they said that they were relying on the Taliban to provide security. They. Meant. It.

Posted by: Its going to get a LOT worse. at August 26, 2021 02:42 PM (XjGk5)

554 San Francisco with Mayor London Breed
Sec. of State Blinken
Sec. of Trans Buttrig
Mayor Lightfoot
Mayor Lance Bottom

Any others? I mean the jokes almost write themselves

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 26, 2021 02:42 PM (LS4XM)

555
Are "court martials" at a record high, now? I thought I saw something about that. Maybe I'm mistaken.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 26, 2021 02:42 PM (G/QLV)

556 But did little girls get to go to school? That, after all is reported as the great benefit of 20 years of nation building.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 26, 2021 02:42 PM (yfYGT)

557 This is so insulting, I don't even know where to begin.
Posted by: SMH - The war has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at August 26, 2021 02:39 PM (wparq)

It's eyebleeding

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:42 PM (EjmW1)

558 >>WE GAVE THE TALIBAN LISTS OF OUR PEOPLE AND OUR AFGHAN ALLIES.

Was that wrong?

I mean. If anyone had said something to me when I was hired...

Posted by: State Department at August 26, 2021 02:42 PM (dX8QE)

559 @EenaRuffini 1m

There has been another explosion outside #hkia. Multiple sources tell @CBSNews

Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (cF8AT)

560 I doubt anyone can pull the Muslims out of the 8th century
Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2021 02:33 PM (znIQ9)

====================

Unfortunately enough understand Einstein, Oppenheimer, Teller, and Ulam. Or can buy the talent that does.

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (Z32m1)

561 I think W Bush was to be commended for his response in the early days. It was what he did later in Iraq and with the mission creep in Afghanistan that should weigh heavily on people.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:26 PM (VpIIl)

"Islam is a religion of peace"

Hey those guys all had Saudi passports, we'll let the Saudis go home.

Nope, he deserves no credit.

Posted by: WiNO - The Odds Are Never in Our Favor at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (EpDzw)

562 From a Politico reporter : "U.S. officials gave a list of names of US citizens, green card holders ans Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport, prompting outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials."
Posted by: Dr Spank

Well, I wonder if they gave them their cell phone numbers and pictures, too.
The Taliban need all the help they can get.

Really. They can be trusted. Totally. Totes.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (vcOmj)

563 Look, it is entirely possible to build secular western style democracies in the middle east.

It's just not possible with Islam.

We took the Kamikaze culture of Japan, much like suicidal Islam today, and changed it.

But we destroyed that culture almost entirely to do so. The old school Christians understood this, with the Crusades: you have to destroy Islam's ideals. And they failed back then, and we have today again failed.

This war can only be one through either exterminating all of Islam or converting them to something different--even a "reformed Islam" based on Muhammed's Mecca teachings only, throwing out Medina. And almost certainly that won't happen until you kill all the fanatical Kamikaze/suicide bomber/Caliphate types. So, wade in the oceans of blood, then rebuild their religion. Then you can win.

Or just accept that you'll have to turn much of the world into a glass parking lot, and there's no honor in dying in a mushroom cloud, no trip to heaven.
Without that kind of will, we are never going to win.

Posted by: Rafal Gan Ganowicz at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (DN0pc)

564 >>Worth of Web says just under $600,000.

Wow.

I guess that shelving really paid off?

Posted by: garrett at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (dX8QE)

565 532 CNN "Biden Braces For Fallout As His Dire Warnings Come True"

I'd like to see that frail senile old man's concept of bracing.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (cSyAR)

566 I see that they've posted the pictures (and probably video) of the ISIS suicide bomber for their propaganda.

But hey, what about those SF Giants?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (wAnMi)

567 I see a guy on a telescreen saying "We have always been at war with ISIS. We have always been at peace with Taliban."

Time for nap.

Posted by: gp at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (qpX6U)

568 If Politico is worth 1 Billion Dollars...

this place HAS to be worth at leat 50 bucks. Right?
Posted by: garrett at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (dX8QE)

Don't forget the dental plan!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (axyOa)

569 >Holy Shit.

SCOOP: U.S. officials gave the Taliban a list of names of U.S. citizens, green card holders & Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport, prompting outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials.

https://bit.ly/3gAkEFd
Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (UW2ZS)

Oh ho ho. Just try to convince me that this isn't all a giant humiliation op. I wasn't sure if the fallout from this collapse was going to merely be bad or would be catastrophic, but now we know it's going to be the worst.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (DXFDM)

570 509 I'm going there, anyone who got out of Afghanistan in the last few days, including the El Cajon idiots, needs to dedicate their lives to the ideals of the former USA. Sanctified in blood today.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at August 26, 2021 02:36 PM (oWBc3)

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Likelihood that the majority of them who reflexively vote D will continue to do so?

Imma gonna go with over 90% ... (hope I'm wrong and they've been sufficiently now mugged by reality, not to mention the rest of the country).

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (lwpML)

571 568 Don't forget the dental plan!
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (axyOa)

======

Lisa needs braces.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 02:44 PM (LvTSG)

572 Fabulous job, Joey!!

Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at August 26, 2021 02:44 PM (pNmvf)

573 536 Politico claiming that US officials gave the Taliban a list of names of US citizens, green card holders, and Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport.

https://tinyurl.com/5fzed2tc
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Taliban: "Thank you Mr. President."*click*.

Call in the suicide bomber! Hamid, your about to get your 30 virgins. Your name at the checkpoint is Dan Higgins.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:44 PM (G0vdT)

574 I hate to say it, but it's all been a grift since day one. Eisenhower warned us, but we would not listen.

Posted by: iandeal at August 26, 2021 02:44 PM (ttmNp)

575 this place HAS to be worth at leat 50 bucks. Right?
Posted by: garrett at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM

+50%, if you throw in those white, blinged Crocs.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 26, 2021 02:44 PM (a3Q+t)

576 SCOOP: U.S. officials gave the Taliban a list of names of U.S. citizens, green card holders & Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport, prompting outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials.

https://bit.ly/3gAkEFd
Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (UW2ZS)

Good God. So much for all that bullshit about helping the Afghans who helped us.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at August 26, 2021 02:44 PM (II3Gr)

577 SCOOP: U.S. officials gave the Taliban a list of names of U.S. citizens, green card holders & Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport, prompting outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials.

https://bit.ly/3gAkEFd
Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (UW2ZS)

Now THAT'S a story worthy of a four hour tease and by the way visit my website.

Yet we just heard about it as if it's regular news.

Because that's how news generally occurs.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:44 PM (EjmW1)

578
I hate to harp on this, but it is now crystal clear that biden admin and the Taliban are Colluding, including both pretending that "Isis" is responsible for everything biden is allowing the Taliban to do.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 26, 2021 02:44 PM (G/QLV)

579 > *shoves coke through USB port for bonhomme*

Thanks AtC!

*fistbump*

You'll beat me next time.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:45 PM (UW2ZS)

580 They have to say its ISIS because Biden threatened the Taliban with consequences, so now we know he will do nothing.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

They all know it is all consequence free, because Biden and the eunuchs at the Pentagon are not going to do anything to "mar the optics" of this "rescue" operation.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 26, 2021 02:45 PM (vcOmj)

581 Large study shows reduced covid infection rate on people who exercise:

https://youtu.be/Ym0ZA8pZYs4

Posted by: Max Power at August 26, 2021 02:45 PM (Hucnr)

582
The lefty media and Punchy's nurses are spinning like tops, but its not going to over-ride the death of 12 servicemen and many civilians in a day, especially since there is every likelihood of much more blood to come - its useless now, this futile gaslighting.

--------

The spin doesn't have to be remotely reasonable or believable. It just has to be the spin. Most people will repeat the lie because they have to. It's just laying down the Party line, at this point.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2021 02:45 PM (rZA2o)

583 I see a guy on a telescreen saying "We have always been at war with ISIS. We have always been at peace with Taliban."

***

Anyone else old enough to remember when Obama started talking almost exclusively about ISIS so that he could pretend the Taliban was defeated and no longer a threat?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 26, 2021 02:45 PM (de2/z)

584 Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM
_____

Boy that is a flaming skull if I ever saw one.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 26, 2021 02:45 PM (r+sAi)

585 edit: not Joe. Use Biden instead.

Joe is the bloke who pulls over to help you change a bar, he's the guy that slides a fiver to the bartender when you don't have enough for that drink you're going to need, he's the stranger that finds your wallet and returns it with your cash.

Biden is the puppet meat or the people that want to fundamentally transform America into some kind of deranged tranny.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 26, 2021 02:45 PM (49Exr)

586 536 Politico claiming that US officials gave the Taliban a list of names of US citizens, green card holders, and Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport.

https://tinyurl.com/5fzed2tc
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (mf5HN)

Are you kidding me? Giving out the names of US citizens and allies to the Taliban? It would have been more humane to go all Australia on them.

Posted by: Moki at August 26, 2021 02:45 PM (JrN/x)

587 "I hate to harp on this, but it is now crystal clear that biden admin and the Taliban are Colluding, including both pretending that "Isis" is responsible for everything biden is allowing the Taliban to do."

Roger that.

Posted by: gp at August 26, 2021 02:45 PM (qpX6U)

588 Good news? Sciatica yoga hottie ad is back...gotta look on the bright side.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (XvPQV)

589 Drooling Joe having a presser at 5:00.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (ptqGC)

590 If anyone wants to in Afghanistan they can sut down that airport with small artillery, like mortars.

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (znIQ9)

591 Amanda Carpenter
@amandacarpenter
Today is rough. We can be together to talk about it tonight for Thursday Night Bulwark. We are so lucky @ashishkjha is joining for the first half to answer all our COVID questions. Then we'll turn to the terrible circumstances in Afghanistan and challenges for democracy at home
12:28 PM · Aug 26, 2021·Twitter for iPhone

Amanda Carpenter
@amandacarpenter·13m Replying to @amandacarpenter
Tonight it's me, @Timodc, @JVLast and our guest @ashishkjha. Bulwark+ members get a link to join every Thursday afternoon. See you at 8pmET plus.thebulwark.com/subscribe

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (MFZ8i)

592 @joshdcaplan
2m
President Joe Biden will speak at 5:00 P.M. EST.

Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (cF8AT)

593 588 Good news? Sciatica yoga hottie ad is back...gotta look on the bright side.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (XvPQV)

=======

I've been getting TikTok ads on my RSS reader. Girls in bikinis...working out...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (LvTSG)

594 We are living in an historical moment.
Centuries from now training in military colleges will teach their students about the "Biden Withdrawl" and the young students will have a difficult time believing that it actually happened.

Posted by: 29Victor at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (BJKQV)

595 "Women's Equality Day.
Nancy Pelosi
@SpeakerPelosi
Press Event to Commemorate Women's Equality Day"

I thought there weren't women anymore......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (Zz0t1)

596 Politico claiming that US officials gave the Taliban a list of names of US citizens, green card holders, and Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport.

https://tinyurl.com/5fzed2tc
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (mf5HN)

Are you kidding me? Giving out the names of US citizens and allies to the Taliban? It would have been more humane to go all Australia on them.
Posted by: Moki at August 26, 2021 02:45 PM (JrN/x)

We can not or will not go into Kabul to get our people. Their only chance is for us to bribe the Taliban to let them leave.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (XvPQV)

597 joshdcaplan
2m
President Joe Biden will speak at 5:00 P.M. EST.
Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (cF8AT)

So 10?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (cSyAR)

598 588 Good news? Sciatica yoga hottie ad is back...gotta look on the bright side.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (XvPQV)

Lucky. I'm still getting the "make a FORTUNE from cryptocurrency without BUYING cryptocurrency" ad.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (II3Gr)

599 @charliespiering 28s

Jen Psaki to brief reporters at 5:45 p.m. after Biden's speech - which suggests he is not likely to take questions after his remarks

Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (cF8AT)

600 Drooling Joe having a presser at 5:00.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (ptqGC)

I for one am looking forward to being scolded for not getting vaxxed and global warming causing the ice flows to increase yearly for the past decade.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (wAnMi)

601 I've been getting TikTok ads on my RSS reader. Girls in bikinis...working out...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (LvTSG)

I really need to look into RSS some day...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (XvPQV)

602
Drooling Joe having a presser at 5:00.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh

He wants to preempt The Five.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (63Dwl)

603 That indian news broadcast is full of info the US MFM won't touch... eye opening

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (Phn3e)

604 I don't get any ads.

Then again, ad blocker and VPN.

Posted by: SMH - The war has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (wparq)

605 Important remarks from Ana Navarro on this disaster : https://tinyurl.com/ygawh7e2

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (pNmvf)

606 589 Drooling Joe having a presser at 5:00.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (ptqGC)

They're hopin to time it so no more US Citizens are killed during his speech.

Posted by: 29Victor at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (BJKQV)

607 Taliban terrorists get freedom while unarmed Americans are held in solitary confinement.

Posted by: Lrrr at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (eK5G3)

608 Lucky. I'm still getting the "make a FORTUNE from cryptocurrency without BUYING cryptocurrency" ad.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (II3Gr)

Let me know if that works, I can think of ways to spend a fortune.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (XvPQV)

609 Be sure to thank any Biden voters you meet. Leave them post-it notes at their gas pumps and grocery store shelves if you might miss them face to face.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (de2/z)

610 Drooling Joe having a presser at 5:00.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh
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Presser or just comments followed quickly by the Biden shuffle.

Posted by: WisRich at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (G0vdT)

611 I'd like to see that frail senile old man's concept of bracing.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy

They put extra starch in his jockeys and jockstrap.

There, that works.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (vcOmj)

612
I don't think we'll be seeing a single video or photo of those flag-draped coffins coming home.

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (G/QLV)

613 SCOOP: U.S. officials gave the Taliban a list of names of U.S. citizens, green card holders & Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport, prompting outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials.

https://bit.ly/3gAkEFd
Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (UW2ZS)

Can this possibly be true???

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (guGkK)

614
nood biden cocksuckery

Posted by: Soothsayer at August 26, 2021 02:49 PM (G/QLV)

615 Holy Shit.

SCOOP: U.S. officials gave the Taliban a list of names of U.S. citizens, green card holders & Afghan allies to grant entry into the outer perimeter of the city's airport, prompting outrage behind the scenes from lawmakers and military officials.

https://bit.ly/3gAkEFd
Posted by: bonhomme at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (UW2ZS)

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I also heard someone say last week that sometime within the last decade, everybody in Afghanistan was required to possess a national ID card, on which you had to state your religion.

Those who went with "Christian" are going to be in a world of hurt (if all that is true) ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 26, 2021 02:49 PM (lwpML)

616 The "Welcome to the Jungle" if by The Smiths is simply "How Soon is Now" with different lyrics.

I'm disappointed.....

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 26, 2021 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)

617
Important remarks from Ana Navarro on this disaster : https://tinyurl.com/ygawh7e2
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (pNmvf)

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Grunting and snuffling into a bucket of manteca isn't a "remark."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 26, 2021 02:49 PM (rZA2o)

618 Report: Kabul Airport Gates Being 'Welded Shut,' Expediting Withdrawal After Kabul Bombings That Killed Four U.S. Marines

Posted by: SMOD at August 26, 2021 02:49 PM (RHGPo)

619 Lucky. I'm still getting the "make a FORTUNE from cryptocurrency without BUYING cryptocurrency" ad.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (II3Gr)

Interesting. I'm getting don't buy cryptocurrency if you're allergic to cryptocurrency.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 26, 2021 02:49 PM (AiZBA)

620
Let me know if that works, I can think of ways to spend a fortune.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Buying King Harv coffee?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 26, 2021 02:49 PM (63Dwl)

621 Every GOPe needs to be asked in their fucking face why they aren't calling for impeachment.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 26, 2021 02:49 PM (1t5dY)

622 will not go into Kabul to get our people. Their only chance is for us to bribe the Taliban to let them leave.
Posted by: Mark Andrew

it has to be a bit of both, see humvees in somalia

Posted by: confederatefifth at August 26, 2021 02:49 PM (K3ZCc)

623 Can this possibly be true???
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 26, 2021 02:48 PM (guGkK)

Can it not?

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2021 02:50 PM (EjmW1)

624 578 but who organized this?

Posted by: Garland at August 26, 2021 02:50 PM (ONvIw)

625 I don't care what Biden, the lunatics at the five-sided nuthouse, or any talking heads blathering on podcasts have to say.

Posted by: SMH - The war has been won, only the battles remain, as usual at August 26, 2021 02:50 PM (wparq)

626 Nude.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 26, 2021 02:50 PM (pNmvf)

627 Take note of the killed Navy Medic. I don't know the details, but it's likely he was part of the Marine unit that suffered fatalities.

These Navy Corpsmen are a special breed. They don't go to boot camp with us, they don't have our combat training , but they attach to Marine victor units and keep up as best they can. They can usually be found skylining themselves over a wounded Marine with a raised IV bag as bullets hail around them. That takes balls.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 26, 2021 02:50 PM (49Exr)

628 Drooling Joe having a presser at 5:00.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (ptqGC)

He'll open again with a joke. Nothing gets an audience on your side like some well-delivered humor about dead Americans and beheadings.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 26, 2021 02:50 PM (guGkK)

629 Buying King Harv coffee?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 26, 2021 02:49 PM (63Dwl)

You know they have free shipping?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 26, 2021 02:50 PM (XvPQV)

630 >>Joe is the bloke who pulls over to help you change a bar, he's the guy that slides a fiver to the bartender when you don't have enough for that drink you're going to need, he's the stranger that finds your wallet and returns it with your cash.

Punchy is the bloke that accidently runs you over while you change a tire, he's the demented person that slides over to slurp down your drink when go over to pay the bartender, he's the imbecile that finds your wallet and thinks its his, I mean, you look like him and hey, he never knew he had that much money!

Posted by: Boswell at August 26, 2021 02:51 PM (5iUNf)

631
We can not or will not go into Kabul to get our people. Their only chance is for us to bribe the Taliban to let them leave.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 26, 2021 02:47 PM (XvPQV)

Because trusting the terrorists was our only hope? They might smell like Obi Wan Kenobi, but I think Tali actions over the past 20 years should have given these fools a clue as to their intentions.

Posted by: Moki at August 26, 2021 02:51 PM (JrN/x)

632 > We killed a significant portion of the male German/Japanese population in WWII.

It also helped that Germany and Japan were civilized countries to begin with.

If a civilized country descends into barbarism, there's a chance of pulling it back out.

That doesn't work with a country made up of murdering savages who have never been anything else. Civilizing one of those takes centuries.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 26, 2021 02:51 PM (XiLhH)

633 We are relying on the Taliban for security around the Airport??

This is worse then the Three Stooges.......

Posted by: janes at August 26, 2021 02:51 PM (24+Vp)

634 My hunch:

School kids generations from now will learn about this fiasco as the prime impetus for why the Constitution was abandoned and the enlightened Revolution overthrew the horrible racist old America.

See how horrible they were back in the bad old days? We're so much better off now. Here's your choc-o-rat.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 26, 2021 02:51 PM (6FeV1)

635 592 @joshdcaplan
2m
President Joe Biden will speak at 5:00 P.M. EST.
Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (cF8AT)

500 Quatloos he is at least 20 minutes late.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2021 02:52 PM (axyOa)

636 So- at the 5 o'clock presser, does President Puddin Head tell us how his son served as a soldier in the Navy?

You know, because that's very comforting.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 26, 2021 02:52 PM (UkAUe)

637 this place HAS to be worth at leat 50 bucks. Right?
Posted by: garrett at August 26, 2021 02:40 PM (dX8QE)

Nah, the flaming skull all by itself has got to be worth $32.50. Punk Monkey? Another $20, easy. Severely undervalued.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:52 PM (wAnMi)

638 That doesn't work with a country made up of murdering savages who have never been anything else. Civilizing one of those takes centuries.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Or you just eliminate the threat.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 26, 2021 02:53 PM (Z+uwH)

639 I still don't think that nation building in Afghanistan is impossible because of Afghanistan (for varying definitions of "nation") because somehow China is going to walk in there and manage to exploit resources and keep the roads, however few of them there are, open. And when there were schools to send girls to, people sent girls to school. And, as always, anyone who can manage a large scale drug industry certainly has an aptitude for business and industry.

I think it was hopeless because of us. Not because American ideals and ideologies and ideas about Constitutional rights and freedom don't translate to a landscape of endlessly warring and feuding decentralized tribes, but because we can't even seem to manage to remember *at home* that there's very very good reasons that our government was initially designed to avoid and defang central authority and "democratic" systems, and then we go elsewhere and have so little moral confidence that we couldn't even insist that people not enslave and bugger boys within our sphere of influence. If there is ONE thing that the Taliban has, (and shouldn't be entitled to), it's moral confidence. It's about their only thing.

Posted by: Synova at August 26, 2021 02:53 PM (BD/yx)

640 Bets are open on how many minutes he will be late.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 26, 2021 02:53 PM (r+sAi)

641 500 Quatloos he is at least 20 minutes late.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2021 02:52 PM (axyOa)

1000 Quatloos he picks his nose.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 26, 2021 02:54 PM (wAnMi)

642 nood.

Posted by: Ana Navarro at August 26, 2021 02:54 PM (pNmvf)

643 589 Drooling Joe having a presser at 5:00.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (ptqGC)

I fear he will try to play on our sympathies for the families of the killed and wounded, recite the latest evacuation statistics, tell us that he knew this could be hazardous but remains totally convinced he made the correct decision and set an appropriate schedule for bugging-out, and if you don't agree, you are an idiot.

Posted by: Gref at August 26, 2021 02:54 PM (AMIL/)

644 635 592 @joshdcaplan
2m
President Joe Biden will speak at 5:00 P.M. EST.
Posted by: Tami at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (cF8AT)

500 Quatloos he is at least 20 minutes late.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 26, 2021 02:52 PM (axyOa)
--------------

*pulls out a markerboard, pen squeaks across the surface wildly*
...Senior Discount at IHOP starts at 4:30...usually orders the Rooty Tooty and an egg...nearest location is about 10 minutes away from 1600 Pennsylvania...add in a little time to clean off the syrup...

Yep! 20 minutes sounds just right! Approve.

Posted by: reason at August 26, 2021 02:56 PM (ePZfA)

645 Or just accept that you'll have to turn much of the world into a glass parking lot, and there's no honor in dying in a mushroom cloud, no trip to heaven.
Without that kind of will, we are never going to win.

Posted by: Rafal Gan Ganowicz at August 26, 2021 02:43 PM (DN0pc)

I'm totally fine with a new source of plate glass.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 26, 2021 02:57 PM (VwHCD)

646 589 Drooling Joe having a presser at 5:00.
Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at August 26, 2021 02:46 PM (ptqGC)

So, an hour from now.

Posted by: m at August 26, 2021 02:57 PM (Zsfob)

647 nood ace

Posted by: m at August 26, 2021 02:58 PM (Zsfob)

648 Another bomb attack in Kabul.

This is going to get worse and worse.

US Troops are like ducks in a barrel right now.

Pray for their safety.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2021 02:58 PM (9h4bD)

649 @581

It's money well spent. Same bunch of brainiacs in the media who always tell their counterpart.

"... and here's [asshoe name here] to tell us what we need to know"

Posted by: micky at August 26, 2021 03:01 PM (3byMq)

650 "If it was a Navy Doctor, he would be in scrubs or a Navy uniform."

Navy Doctors, etc., wear MARPAT when deployed with Marines.

Posted by: Matthews at August 26, 2021 03:21 PM (tw+AI)

651 The biden failure of a junta hates us our kids our way of life. They hate everything we love.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at August 26, 2021 03:43 PM (0OmEj)

652 No mean tweets
Bloodshed in the streets

Norms restored
Reality ignored

Posted by: David Frum at August 26, 2021 04:07 PM (ajRxE)

653 Is this a renunciation of Steven Den Beste?

Who, I'll repeat, is burning in hell at this very moment.

Posted by: rold at August 26, 2021 04:20 PM (+8PKc)

654 Den Beste's great contribution was the popularization of the categories of American political thought via The Jacksonians, Hamiltonians, Jeffersonians, etc. It was a valuable way of understanding the American polity.

9/11 was the event that changed so many of our minds, including Den Beste. Richard Fernandez and the "Golden Hour" or three conjectures was another place that summarized this train of thought well. I still enjoy reading Wretchard.

Yes, we were against the nation building of the 90's - Somalia was a shit show, the Balkans were a shit show, etc.

But watching the Towers come down, simply playing defense didn't seem like a great idea anymore. The Jacksonians were fully activated. So I don't get the vitriol at Den Beste. We would do well to remember that at the time, the (now in hindsight false dichotomy) choice seemed to be Wilsonian export of democracy or hope that the bad guys would leave us alone. Not sure where the "realists" were at the time. My wife at the time was in favor of simply turning the ME in to a glass parking lot, and specifically including the stupid moon rock in the SA. Maybe that's where the realists were?

Posted by: Milquetoast mortgage-paying neighbor in flyover country at August 26, 2021 04:54 PM (TPgeI)

655 Frum made a fool of himself. Jerry Pournelle, one of those "unpatriotic conservatives" (never mind his large contribution to the cold war and real conservatism, something utterly foreign to the egregious Frum), laughed at him. Frum is, always was, and always will be, a leftist liar.

Sadly, Pete Dupont chimed in with him and earned a place in oblivion.

Posted by: Quartermaster at August 26, 2021 05:34 PM (J0tKB)

656 Prager destroys Frum and Steele:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eknbi5Rcyzc

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