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Saturday Gardening and Puttering Thread, August 28

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Good Saturday, everyone! Are you getting to spend some time outdoors? About the lovely photo above, and the one just below the fold:

. . shots I've taken of dahlias from the gardens on Stacy Blvd along Gloucester Harbor (MA). These planters are maintained by a group called Generous Gardeners and they do a fabulous job every year - tulips, lillies, dahlias - such beauty throughout the Spring and Summer for those of us who don't or can't garden. More info about them here: Generous Gardeners - Philanthropy through gardening

Cheers,

Lizzy

What a great way to engage with your community!

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Edibles and other fun things

Lizzie sent more content, too!

Hi KT!

I don't usually stop by the garden thread because we currently don't have any space for gardening. However, thought I'd pass this along if it is of any interest.

The horde sometimes discusses plans to get more self-sufficient: "Grow a lot on a small plot - Blueprints for a thriving garden, permaculture food forest on your urban lot or homestead - GetRawMilk.com"

August 20, 2021

Photo dump of diagrams, blueprints, books, and other materials for producing food on a small plot to get your creativity flowing.

Thanks to everyone who answered the call and sent these in via Facebook and Twitter.

Lots of fun and interesting plans at the link. Some retro stuff, too.

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Some things have changed!

Dear K.T.,

Harvest time is starting here in Kenosha. Last Friday, I dug up my patch
of potatoes, and harvested ~20 lb. of Yukon Golds - enough to keep my
wife and me in potatoes for a couple of months. And yes, freshly
harvested potatoes do taste better - I never would have thought that the
lowly spud could taste so good.

Tomatoes are coming in - Romas for sauce and cherry tomatoes for salads.
I am also harvesting beans; this year, I planted a variety of heirloom
bush beans, for soup. They're very colorful, and I'm sure they'll taste
great when cooked into soup with a smoked ham hock.

I did have an accident in the garden on Friday. I was stung on my left
hand by a wasp. I didn't think much of it at the time - I've been stung
any number of times before, no big deal - but this time, within a few
hours, my hand and forearm started swelling a lot. There was no pain,
but it was alarming enough to warrant a trip to the ER. So, now I have a
steroid and an antibiotic, and the hand is returning to normal. Thank
God for modern medicine! A hundred years ago, that wasp sting might have
cost me my arm.

Nemo

YIPES!

Be careful out there! Nice harvest, though. The tomatoes look great! Wonder what the beans are like as fresh shellies (before drying)?

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The taters look like they will be tasty, too.

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Travel and Food

CBD thinks of us even while away. He took a photo of an edible plant for us during a visit to lovely Cambria, California. Incidentally, some Monarch butterflies generally hang out in Cambria during the winter. Not as many as in Pismo Beach or Pacific Grove.

But back to CBD's photo. You may have seen this plant if you have driven along the Pacific Coast Highway:

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Cape Figs:

Carpobrotus edulis. . . is a member of the fig-marigold family Aizoaceae, one of about 30 species in the genus Carpobrotus. . . It is a creeping, mat-forming herb native to South Africa, but has established in many cooler, very sandy soiled, Mediterranean regions of California and Australia. Few of the popular common names of the plant are Cape fig, Fig-marigold, Highway ice plant, Hottentot fig, Ice plant, Sour fig, Pigface, Yellow-flowering sour fig, Freeway iceplant, kaffir fig and introduced pigface.

Pigface. Hmmmm.

Health benefits and medicinal uses are described. Here is a photo of the mature fruit. Some people recommend that you allow them to start "turning" before harvest, to avoid astringency. They are sour and generally salty because they grow near the ocean.

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There are two pink-flowered species which are supposed to have tastier fruit, Carpobrotus acinaciformis and Carpobrotus deliciosus. Maybe CBD's plant is one of those. Sometimes farmed in South Africa.

From this South African site, we learn that:

Leaves are eaten by tortoises. Puff-adders and other snakes such as the Cape Cobra are often found in Carpobrotus clumps where they ambush the small rodents that are attracted by the fruits. Flowers are pollinated by solitary bees, honey bees, carpenter bees and many beetle species. Flowers are eaten by antelopes and baboons. The clumps provide shelter for snails, lizards and skinks. Fruits are eaten by baboons, rodents, porcupines, antelopes and people, who also disperse the seeds.

I want zero puff-adders in my garden.

The plants can serve as a fire-resistant barrier if maintained, and are sometimes planted near citrus groves in California as hosts to predators of a citrus pest. Here are some jam recipes and culinary tips.

I can't be sure without a taste-test, but I might actually prefer this Vanilla Bean Peach Jam that a friend made. You can probably figure out a recipe from a pectin package. She also makes Peach Pit Jam from pits, peels and cuts left over from canning peaches, if any canners want that recipe. It might be closer in appearance to the Cape Fig Jam in appearance, and maybe in flavor. A lot of people love it.

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As ice plants go, the edible Carpobrotus species are some of the more husky-looking ones. It is considered to be an invasive plant in some places, including the UK.

It appears a couple of times in book 1, Dead in the Water - in one instance as the arch nemesis of Tony Guille, who is tasked with limiting its spread as part of his job with States Works.

A body on a beach, an impossible alibi and an unstoppable race against time!

Hottentot Fig appears in The Sarnian, the explosive adventure series in which the discovery of a dead body on one of Guernsey's most secluded beaches blows the lid on a world of intrigue and deceit.

Click below to download your copy today...

You can imagine that this plant would take over grazing areas for Guernsey Cattle.

For comparison, here are a couple of other ice plants. This one looks kind of delicate:

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Don't know if this is one of the edible ones:

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More Carnivorous Plants

We have recently seen a carnivorous bromeliad doing a high wire act. Now, more Pitcher Plants. Here are just a few from our outdoor carnivorous plant specialist:

Just wanted to send you some pics of my Sarracenia Leucophylla varieties which sends out two crops of pitchers a year with the ones in the Spring usually small and spindly and then the ones from now till November their best pitchers, which these are. Each pic is marked as to what it is, and I still have many more that haven't sent up their Fall pitchers yet and when they do, I'll send you the pics. Anyway I hope you like them. Take care. Tony Litwin

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S. l. 'unnamed cultivar'

I like the plants in the background in the photo above.

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S. l. 'Alba'

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S. l. 'All Red'

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S. l. 'Hurricane Creek'

Some of these cultivars have great names.

BTW, the pic titled Pink Lips, that pitcher is 3 feet tall, I have the plant on a table and that's why the angle is looking up.

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S. l. 'Pink Lips'

3 feet tall! Sounds dangerous to critters.

Here is a little video about a different genus of pitcher plants. It grows pitchers in a different way.

Gardens of The Horde

Special recognition to neverenoughcaffeine for dedication to gardening in the Bitterroot of Montana, despite several challenges including high heat and water. Planting 63 "ditch daylilies" is a big job, too!

We had some discussion of morning glories in the comments last week, too. We got a response.

Morning glories in the garden. The other picture is of some vines growing on the edge of the woods.

f'd

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Looks like a perfect spot for morning glories.

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Anybody want to identify this one?

Puttering

We've been de-cluttering.

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If you would like to send information and/or photos for the Saturday Gardening Thread, the address is:

ktinthegarden
at that g mail dot com place

Include the nic by which you wish to be known when you comment at AoSHQ,
unless you want to remain a lurker.

Posted by: K.T. at 12:54 PM




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1 read the content

Posted by: kallisto at August 28, 2021 11:59 AM (DJFLF)

2 wow, first anyway!

must taunt skip

Posted by: kallisto at August 28, 2021 11:59 AM (DJFLF)

3 Hi everyone.

My attempt at growing tomatoes in a giant pot had little success. Not going to do that next year. On the other hand, the Fresno chilies and bell peppers and rosemary are YUGE successes.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 28, 2021 12:05 PM (xopIz)

4 I had some potatoes going bad, so I planted them one year. The potatoes that resulted were excellect eating.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 28, 2021 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

5 "my super power is holding onto junk and throwing out a week before i need it." That is the business model of every storage company in history. My personal advice, is never use them, never ever use them, and in case i am not clear, never ever, ever use them.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 12:07 PM (/i32d)

6 I am waiting in line at the post office.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 28, 2021 12:08 PM (FZ8zY)

7 Thanks for the thread, kt!

Just came in from the backyard. Hauled away one load of branches and tried to set fire to the bonfire of the bigger ones. Didn't work. Plus, there's a death-by-heat advisory going into effect.

I am so hungry after viewing the pics, especially the jam. Plus envious of f'd's morning glories. The ones here are the white volunteers that show up occasionally in the lawn.

Off to look for cold lunch fixin's because it's too hot to cook.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 28, 2021 12:08 PM (/+bwe)

8 That is the business model of every storage company in history. My personal advice, is never use them, never ever use them, and in case i am not clear, never ever, ever use them.

But The Cloud is different, right?

Posted by: t-bird at August 28, 2021 12:08 PM (8eSmR)

9 I am laying down carbohydrate foam of the species "Hickory" on the floors upstairs today.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2021 12:09 PM (TayrX)

10 JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 28, 2021 12:05 PM

Tomatoes are hard to grow in pots. Sometimes cherry or determinate tomatoes will work in a giant self-watering pot, or one with water-regulating crystals in the potting mix.

I have a hard time growing bell peppers, but not most chiles.

Posted by: KT at August 28, 2021 12:09 PM (BVQ+1)

11 BTW I got a volunteer zucchini that MAY produce a squash. If so, that will be the second of the season. Not a good time in my garden.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 28, 2021 12:10 PM (/+bwe)

12 My garden has applied for early retirement. 42 this morning. Mid to low forties all week. Chances of getting any meaningful harvest of pole beans is starting to look doubtful. Bush beans, pickling cukes, cherry tomatoes, onions and carrots have done well. I plant pole beans every year. Every year it's a race to the first frost. It's not uncommon to see it by Labor day. Maby some year I'll learn.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Aut cum scuto aut inscuto at August 28, 2021 12:10 PM (NYnSy)

13 That bottom flower is Kudzu. I looked it up. It's intertwined with several other types of vines in a wall 15-20 feet high along a portion of the woods.


Posted by: f'd at August 28, 2021 12:10 PM (Tnijr)

14 some of those pics were scary. I realized they were the plants that eat animals, but much larger specimens.

I rarely comment on the gardening thread because i only am interested in plants I can smoke or eat. I can only say so many times that rosemary is hardy, mint will take over everything if you let it, and cilantro will get destroyed by slugs.

Posted by: Quint at August 28, 2021 12:10 PM (/i32d)

15 KT, I will do cherry tomatoes next year. Yeah, determinate. I didn't know what that meant in April.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 28, 2021 12:14 PM (xopIz)

16 "The pic titled Pink Lips, that pitcher is 3 feet tall,"

FEED ME, SEYMORE!

Posted by: Pink Lips at August 28, 2021 12:14 PM (Tnijr)

17 Putting junk in storage is like taking out a loan to pay off credit cards. It just frees up space to accumulate more junk.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 28, 2021 12:15 PM (TayrX)

18 I puttered cutting down a few dead branches this morning. I wanted a beer and needed to do some work so I could call it a beer break. Usually the battery on the pole saw is done by the time I want to quit but today the chain slipped twice; after the 2nd time I figured the battery was probably close to done and called it quits after re-seating the chain. I've been burning dried weeds that tumbled into the yard for the past week. They are not true tumbleweeds, we usually get some of those later, might be less this year with the good moisture we had this spring.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at August 28, 2021 12:16 PM (1KD/n)

19 I got all the grass cut and had to take a break. Feels like 100/100 out there.

Posted by: f'd at August 28, 2021 12:18 PM (Tnijr)

20 But back to CBD's photo. You may have seen this plant if you have driven along the Pacific Coast Highway:

We called that ice plant. The "leaves" you see are a triangular-cross-sectioned succulent. It's everywhere.

Posted by: t-bird at August 28, 2021 12:19 PM (8eSmR)

21 I have an electric pole chain saw and a really long cord.


Good excuse though. "Oh the batteries are dead."

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 28, 2021 12:20 PM (xopIz)

22 NaughtyPine at August 28, 2021 12:08 PM

Are you talking about morning glories in the lawn, or bindweed?

Posted by: KT at August 28, 2021 12:20 PM (BVQ+1)

23 My chickens (hatched about two months ago) haven't laid a single egg yet. I think they might be defective. I should see if they're still under warranty.

https://stoatnet.org/chackens.jpg

Posted by: hogmartin at August 28, 2021 12:22 PM (ghoDT)

24 We have had a mild Summer here in the midlands of SC. Only once, IIRC of a 100 degree day. The nights have cooled things down wonderfully. Don't you just hate it when you get up early and it's dark and it's 86 degrees?

None of that this year.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 28, 2021 12:22 PM (xopIz)

25 FEED ME, SEYMORE!

Love it.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 28, 2021 12:23 PM (xopIz)

26 Good afternoon Greenthumbs

Posted by: Skip's Phone at August 28, 2021 12:24 PM (fzbby)

27 f'd at August 28, 2021 12:10 PM

Kudzu. YAY.

Posted by: KT at August 28, 2021 12:25 PM (BVQ+1)

28 I found a pretty purple morning glory exactly like the one in the picture, growing next to a climbing rose. I definitely didn't plant it, but last year I planted that variety down in the main garden, 50 ft away. Maybe a stray seed blew over here, or was moved when I raked leaves? It's very rare for morning glories to reseed the next year here, because the winters are so cold, but I do recall it happening once 15 years ago.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at August 28, 2021 12:26 PM (KF5Wg)

29 I just finished lunch, a bacon and homegrown tomato sandwich with a cucumber on the side. Life is good.

Posted by: Atticus Finch at August 28, 2021 12:26 PM (MzKgG)

30 Are you talking about morning glories in the lawn, or bindweed?
Posted by: KT at August 28, 2021 12:20 PM (BVQ+1)

Morning glory volunteers from my old neighbors.

Bindweed cannot survive in my lawn. Seriously, I've seen it maybe twice, pulled it, and it never grows back. Creeping Charlie, on the other hand...

Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 28, 2021 12:26 PM (/+bwe)

31 Oh, garden thread. Good. Reminds me to water the potted plants.

*wanders off to get water*

Posted by: Ruthless at August 28, 2021 12:27 PM (/uaBM)

32 t-bird at August 28, 2021 12:19 PM

Yes, a lot of people call CBD's plant "iceplant". It has been widely planted by freeways in the past.

But a couple of decades ago, Sunset listed 10 genera of plants called "iceplant", and who knows how many species? They are probably all re-arranged by the botanists now.

Posted by: KT at August 28, 2021 12:28 PM (BVQ+1)

33 " I definitely didn't plant it, but last year I planted that variety down in the main garden, 50 ft away. Maybe a stray seed blew over here, or was moved when I raked leaves?"

They grow wild in the yard here. There are a bunch down by the creek, Lavender, purple, blue. If they get mowed down they just come back.

Posted by: f'd at August 28, 2021 12:28 PM (Tnijr)

34 Posted by: hogmartin at August 28, 2021 12:22 PM (ghoDT)

what kind of chickens are they? Are they supposed to lay eggs?

Posted by: kallisto at August 28, 2021 12:28 PM (DJFLF)

35 Chickens are relatively easy and can be fun. And from the self-sufficient view, eggs are a good way to produce some protein.
Beans are a source of some protein for vegetarians I guess, but gardening produces lots of sugar and carbs. They are fresh and tasty though. Some keto compromises must be made.

cheers to the growers ... and to those that eat things that grow.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 28, 2021 12:29 PM (Cus5s)

36 "Kudzu. YAY.
Posted by: KT"

It will go no further than the edge of my lawn.

Posted by: f'd at August 28, 2021 12:30 PM (Tnijr)

37 I like morning glories, and most years I try to grow them, but I've only had good results about twice. Usually the plants take so long to establish themselves and grow to maturity, by the time they start producing flowers, it's fall and the frost comes and kills them. One thing I've tried repeatedly to grow but have always failed is Moonflowers - white morning glories. They're supposed to open in the afternoon and evening. Never gotten a single bloom.

Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at August 28, 2021 12:31 PM (KF5Wg)

38 what kind of chickens are they? Are they supposed to lay eggs?
Posted by: kallisto at August 28, 2021 12:28 PM (DJFLF)


Those two are welbars, there's another one of those and three fauxmeraucanas out there too. They won't be laying for another couple months, probably.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 28, 2021 12:31 PM (ghoDT)

39 I have one or two in my concrete garden they reside in pots. I smuggled them into the UK as cuttings from Spain. they are known as Vygies (South Africa) (fig dimunitive) they carpet the dunes in South Africa. Talking about the purple flowered succulents

Posted by: FundMe at August 28, 2021 12:31 PM (e5IqU)

40 I planted six Better Boy tomato plants I grew from seed, in Tractor Supply five-gallon buckets, with holes drilled in the bottoms. They are indeterminate, and were not the best choice for containers. I'm a newbie, didn't know what I was doing. I've picked them early to ripen off the vine, and got a bigger yield. Hoping for more when it cools off a bit. They are small, though, mostly, and this variety is intended to be big ones. So next year I will try the Amish Paste Roma type and cherry ones too.

Posted by: skywch at August 28, 2021 12:32 PM (QVgqY)

41 Well, break's over. Back to the plow.

Posted by: f'd at August 28, 2021 12:34 PM (Tnijr)

42 The Black Dahlia james elroy (proper writer) an early introduction to mystery

Posted by: FundMe at August 28, 2021 12:35 PM (e5IqU)

43 My good brother dropped off tomatoes at 4:30 am yesterday morning. Saving them like money. Had 2 tomatoes in pots and something ripped them all apart last night.

Posted by: dartist at August 28, 2021 12:40 PM (+ya+t)

44 The pitcher plants look like they are letting out a war whoop before they devour their prey.

Posted by: bluebell at August 28, 2021 12:40 PM (wyw4S)

45 "Those two are welbars, there's another one of those and three fauxmeraucanas out there too. They won't be laying for another couple months, probably."

cool ... I'm only on my second batch of chickens (mailed at one day old). As I'm sure you know, about 18 weeks till they start laying, but the pooping and flying over fences starts earlier. ha. some fly more than others, I guess wings can be clipped.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 28, 2021 12:44 PM (Cus5s)

46 My Romas are a little late this year...My Marmands are flourishing the cherries are just starting to blush. I live center city at 51 degrees north. black berries done. Raspberries, one or two already ripe. I love Fall but dread the winter

Posted by: FundMe at August 28, 2021 12:45 PM (e5IqU)

47 Most of my tomatoes split down the side.

I think that I watered them too little and then too much.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 28, 2021 12:45 PM (xopIz)

48 I live in SC, and the pot is in a sunny spot.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 28, 2021 12:46 PM (xopIz)

49 The chicken idea seems unfeasible.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at August 28, 2021 12:46 PM (buTO7)

50 My morning glory envy is burning a hole in my soul.

I see Tony has put a tiny electrified fence around "All Red", lest they escape into civilization.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at August 28, 2021 12:49 PM (Dc2NZ)

51 Interesting that CBD's plant is connected to adventure and murder mysteries. The English are a little different.

Posted by: KT at August 28, 2021 12:50 PM (BVQ+1)

52 Posted by: hogmartin at August 28, 2021 12:22 PM (ghoDT)

They really do look like tiny dinosaurs.

Have you considered piping smooth jazz into their hutch? Maybe they haven't reached proper Chill.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at August 28, 2021 12:51 PM (Dc2NZ)

53 I finally dug up my rusty hollyhocks and planted mums. C'mon, Fall!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Live! from the Dungeon of Discord at August 28, 2021 12:52 PM (Dc2NZ)

54 Those two are welbars, there's another one of those and three fauxmeraucanas out there too. They won't be laying for another couple months, probably.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 28, 2021 12:31 PM (ghoDT)


They *are* pretty birds though

Posted by: kallisto at August 28, 2021 12:52 PM (DJFLF)

55 I have nutured a victoria plum for six years now, from pot to bigger pot, this year it bloomed like a champion . only to throw down just about every plum. One or two have come to fruition only to split at the last moment. I know now I have learned it is going into the ground over winter.

Posted by: FundMe at August 28, 2021 12:54 PM (e5IqU)

56 JAS, yep. We have an electric chainsaw. and I rarely run it any longer than the battery powered pole saw. I'm tired of the noise and vibration within an hour. There's always plenty of other items on the do list when I'm not just being lazy that day.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at August 28, 2021 12:54 PM (1KD/n)

57 I figured out the soil problems this year and now the tomato plants are about 6'6" but since i didn't cage them, they're falling over heavy with fruit. Crap. Well there's next year.

Big Boy n Supersonic.

Peppers are starting to produce. Purple, California Wonder , Banana, habernero n jalapeno. Gotdam groundhog has a taste for the sweet peppers.

Posted by: BluesFish at August 28, 2021 12:58 PM (kPJ/p)

58 when acid was not available morning glory seeds where next best or milk bush or as we used to call them Mal Pitte (roughly translated Mad Pips)

Posted by: FundMe at August 28, 2021 01:01 PM (e5IqU)

59 I had no idea that ice plant had fruit? Or was edible at all. We have some near our road. My husband wants more because he says it is fire resistant.

I think rats live in the ice plant.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 28, 2021 01:02 PM (LB/yG)

60 23 My chickens (hatched about two months ago) haven't laid a single egg yet. I think they might be defective. I should see if they're still under warranty.

https://stoatnet.org/chackens.jpg
Posted by: hogmartin a

They are so cute!

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 28, 2021 01:04 PM (LB/yG)

61 Posted by: BluesFish at August 28, 2021 12:58 PM (kPJ/p)

Pinch them out.. always below the flower..allow 6 sets per plant. You will never go wrong

Posted by: FundMe at August 28, 2021 01:07 PM (e5IqU)

62 Only time will tell.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 28, 2021 01:09 PM (vuisn)

63 I sometimes wonder why there aren't any "full size" carnivorous plants, this would make gardening, camping and hiking so much more interesting!

Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2021 01:19 PM (QEgj7)

64 I can relate to that superpower. Mine is to empty my trash file a day before I need to recover an email.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 28, 2021 01:20 PM (axyOa)

65 CaliGirl at August 28, 2021 01:02 PM (LB/yG)

Oh they do bare fruit they are called small figs ( afrikaans=vygie=small fig) taste good but need lots of sun to ripen. Often picked back in the day to make alchohol

Posted by: FundMe at August 28, 2021 01:22 PM (e5IqU)

66 I sometimes wonder why there aren't any "full size" carnivorous plants, this would make gardening, camping and hiking so much more interesting!
Posted by: Common Tater at August 28, 2021 01:19 PM (QEgj7)

I saw a documentary about that very thing.

FEED ME!!!!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Keith's Son at August 28, 2021 01:22 PM (4l77G)

67 My chickens (hatched about two months ago) haven't laid a single egg yet. I think they might be defective.
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Well, there is an alternative, uh, utilization for them. This only applies if you haven't given them names. If you've given them names, then they have become family members.

Posted by: Mike Hammer etc., etc. at August 28, 2021 01:23 PM (GBHAb)

68 My neighbor across the back fence did his tomatoes suspended by clips from a cord, and pruned them up from the bottom. His are already ripe and harvested the first batch, and mine are still plugging along in the cages. I tried a couple of plants like that in my garden but I suspended them from a t-bar fence post and they were volunteers in the corn patch so they are not that successful this year.

I will try again next year

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2021 01:24 PM (HG00O)

69 I sometimes wonder why there aren't any "full size" carnivorous plants, this would make gardening, camping and hiking so much more interesting!
Posted by: Common Tater
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Hmm. 'Attack of the Killer Tomatoes'

Posted by: Mike Hammer etc., etc. at August 28, 2021 01:24 PM (GBHAb)

70
Oh they do bare fruit they are called small figs...
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'Small Nekkid figs'?

Posted by: Mike Hammer etc., etc. at August 28, 2021 01:26 PM (bk3Sg)

71 I'm going to have to use a storage unit. I have to get moved out of here and I don't have a new place. I would never use one just to keep stuff.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 28, 2021 01:28 PM (YynYJ)

72 Your chickens aren't old enough to lay. They need a few more months.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 28, 2021 01:31 PM (YynYJ)

73 I also built a fruit dryer out of an small chest freezer that my dad's neighbor was tossing out.
I used a 150 ceramic basking element as a heat source and a computer fan spliced to a cell phone charger for a blower, and build racks out of window screen and lathes. I cut holes in it for the blower and the exhaust ports.

It is not as successful as I had hoped, I think the heating element is not powerful enough. I dug the plastic and insulation out of the door because my initial experiments had blistered it, and then took the foam out, so I suspect that is where most of the heat is escaping.
The thermometer shows it is 110 - 130 if the fan is off, and about 95 when it is on. I will have to figure something out

It does dry stuff, just not as fast or as well as I would like.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2021 01:31 PM (HG00O)

74 150 watt ceramic reptile basking element.
cheap and hot

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2021 01:32 PM (HG00O)

75 I mowed my lawn today so I want my props! Ok, just doing a little WH snark about their largest airlift in history! which they created.

I don't think I want any of those Audrey II plants around because you know they are gonna mutate for human blood.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 28, 2021 01:32 PM (r+sAi)

76 I'm down to what comes up every year. Garlic chives, asparagus and oregano. Small patch of peppers unless the animals get to them. No more pulling weeds in the sun for this boy.

Posted by: dartist at August 28, 2021 01:33 PM (+ya+t)

77 Timely photo on the chickens. Our coop kit arrives Tuesday and putting it together starts Wednesday. Have been scoping out the other items I will need including feed. A lot of people buy chicks in the Spring and tire of chicken ranching by the Fall. Looking on Facebook for hens that are old enough that they are already producing eggs. Want 4. Hopefully buff orpingtons or americaunus.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 28, 2021 01:34 PM (2NHgQ)

78 I am experimenting on making raisins and I suspect my grapes are proof against dehydration.

And I am canning stew meat (it was on sale) and when that is done I am doing pears.
Autumn is coming and I am busy

Posted by: Kindltot at August 28, 2021 01:36 PM (HG00O)

79 Posted by: Dr. Mabusette, just to clarify things at August 28, 2021 12:31 PM (KF5Wg)
Bewitching. I have known some who could measure the exact dose, moon flower and morning glory

Posted by: FundMe at August 28, 2021 01:37 PM (e5IqU)

80 test, last post disappeared

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 28, 2021 01:38 PM (2NHgQ)

81 My HOA doesn't allow chickens. I've tried.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 28, 2021 01:41 PM (UUBmN)

82 Well that worked. Tomatoes almost finished for the season. Raised in a large stock tank. Need better staking next year due to strong winds coming down from the mountains. Next year I will know better.
Currently looking for someone to shoot the small bambi eating my perrenials when hunting season starts. We cannot fence everything we plant and I have been using human urine and garlic powder to try and keep her at bay. She took out part of a horse chestnut the other day since the hubby didn't have taller fencing to go around it, that has been remedied.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 28, 2021 01:41 PM (2NHgQ)

83 lin-duh. We're allowed 5 critters. 1 for each acre of land we own. Although there are certain animals not allowed. Roosters, pigs, goats are a few. Horses are glorified in this development although they are limited as well.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 28, 2021 01:43 PM (2NHgQ)

84 Those blue morning glories are beautiful.

Posted by: JuJuBee at August 28, 2021 01:55 PM (mNhhD)

85 We're allowed 5 critters. 1 for each acre of land we own.

Nobody needs more than five rhinoceroses.

Posted by: t-bird at August 28, 2021 01:55 PM (JioHo)

86 The plant with the pink pea-shaped flowers looks like a lupine.

Posted by: Emmie at August 28, 2021 02:41 PM (6RgRK)

87 Emmie at August 28, 2021 02:41 PM

It's Kudzu.

Posted by: KT at August 28, 2021 02:53 PM (BVQ+1)

88 CaliGirl at August 28, 2021 01:02 PM

Your husband is right about it being fire retardant. I think you are also right about rats living in it.

You might want to look for updated recommendations for fire-retardant plants. I think this kind of ice plant also sometimes gets die-back. I also think that there are other species of ice plant that might work better. Probably with less chance of rats.

Posted by: KT at August 28, 2021 02:56 PM (BVQ+1)

89 We're allowed 5 critters. 1 for each acre of land we own.
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine


I've got about a third of an acre, here.

So I think I'll pass on raising critters. Ew.

Posted by: mikeski at August 28, 2021 03:00 PM (P1f+c)

90 Those two are welbars, there's another one of those and three fauxmeraucanas out there too. They won't be laying for another couple months, probably.


5 to 6 months is the norm for most layer breeds.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Aut cum scuto aut inscuto at August 28, 2021 03:04 PM (4AtiN)

91 Well, there is an alternative, uh, utilization for them. This only applies if you haven't given them names. If you've given them names, then they have become family members.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

I disagree. My one rooster has several names. Grandkids named him Blue. I call him sh*thead. Every day when I go into the chicken yard I ask " want to get shot today sh*thead? Go ahead and try a sneak attack."

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Aut cum scuto aut inscuto at August 28, 2021 03:18 PM (4AtiN)

92 From Boise area: Highs in the low 80's (nice), lows in the 60's or high 50's. Looking forward to Monday when I can pick up my ribbons and exhibits from the Western Idaho Fair - already picked up my winnings (a whopping $13.50).

Squash vines already collapsed, zucchini now dying too. Corn is done - processed the last 6 pounds or so as "stew corn". Green beans slowing down a lot. Turning off water to the cucumbers and Costa Romanesco zucchini, which haven't done all that much. Cantaloupes now ripening - I cut them up, freeze the cubes on a tray, then bag them up (for future protein shakes). We harvested the 3 potato bags of German Butterballs - they grow in odd clumps - haven't weighed them yet. We're harvesting red raspberries.

My southside neighbor told me I should go check out the area behind his fence, on the bank of the irrigation canal; said he hadn't been back there for weeks. So I went - what a jungle!! - yellow straightneck squash, zucchini, cucumber, and pumpkin. I may nab a few of the zukes and baby squashes from time to time, and will ask if he needs help harvesting pumpkins.
//part 1

Posted by: Pat* at August 28, 2021 03:48 PM (2pX/F)

93 I bought an heirloom tomato plant from a farmer's market last spring and planted in the only place in my yard that gets any sun at all. Got about 6 good sized tomatoes, each half green half red. They were really good.

Posted by: chris not rock at August 28, 2021 03:49 PM (sQuhB)

94 Under puttering: We've been edging the asphalt driveway, cement slabs, and cement coping all around the house/gardens. Removed grass strips get pulled away, piled along the back of the property, sprayed to kill grass, then left to eventually turn into compost/soil.

Husband bought a pressure washer, which we've been using to clean off the cement slabs and cement coping, as well as the sides of the house (using different pressure nozzles! - the one for cement would probably take paint off).
**
Oh, and we call that plant "ice plant", but nicknamed it "rubber-band plant". Walk on it and you'll know what we mean. It was brought to the Calif. coast to stabilize dunes - but it's invasive.
**
One interesting breed of chicken I saw at the Fair, in case anyone's planning on starting a chicken ranch: Hollands. A breed created in America, relatively rare (probably only obtainable from specialty breeders), dual purpose (meat and eggs), come in White and Barred (saw Barred ones at the Fair). Must be a breeder around here somewhere, or the 4-H'ers might not have found them.
/part 2/end

Posted by: Pat* at August 28, 2021 04:04 PM (2pX/F)

95 Oops, part 3: shouldn't forget the tomatoes. I'm also coring and freezing Romas for later sauce processing, and eating up the regular tomatoes.

Anyone have a recommendation for a *determinate* paste tomato? The one caged Roma's producing all right, but the uncaged one is all sprawl and green fruit, but not one red Roma yet!

Posted by: Pat* at August 28, 2021 04:08 PM (2pX/F)

96 I planted morning glories 5 years ago. Removed them that winter. I still have volunteers coming up this year.
The pitcher plants are so uniquely lovely.

Posted by: S.Lynn at August 28, 2021 11:25 PM (AS2s2)

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