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Must Read: "Farewell to Bourgeois Kings"

Commenters were linking this as a must-read.

I just saw an excerpt at Instapundit. Let's hope.

Hindsight may very well be 20/20, but with that caveat out of the way, some events truly come across as historical in their importance even as they play out in realtime. We might not know what the results will be, but we can feel that something quite big is happening. Watching the fall of the Berlin wall was one such moment in recent history, and watching the twin towers fall was another one.

...

[The Professional Managerial Class's] spectacular failure on every conceivable level now brings us to the true heart of the matter. Western society today is openly ruled by a managerial class. Where kings once claimed a divine right to rule, and the bolsheviks of old claimed a right to rule as messiahs of a future kingdom on this earth (bearing a conspicuously strong resemblance to a very old tradition of messianic christianity with the serial numbers filed off, by the way) the technocrats of today base their claims to lordship not necessarily on the idea of the democratic will of the people, but on the historical inevitability of technocracy as such.

...

[J]ust like the kings of old, our technocrats at one point claimed (and even enjoyed) a form of quasi-magical power in the eyes of their peasantry; a view once commonly shared that they could use the very thing that made them rightful rulers -- science, logic, rationality, data -- to lay on hands, cure ills, and improve society.

...

I suspect we are currently witnessing the catastrophic end of this metaphysical power of legitimacy that has shielded the managerial ruling class for decades. Anyone even briefly familiar with the historical record knows just how much of a Pandora's box such a loss of legitimacy represents. The signs have obviously been multiplying over many years, but it is only now that the picture is becoming clear to everyone. When Michael Gove said "I think the people in this country have had enough of experts" in a debate about the merits of Brexit, he probably traced the contours of something much bigger than anyone really knew at the time. Back then, the acute phase of the delegitimization of the managerial class was only just beginning. Now, with Afghanistan, it is impossible to miss.

It is not just that the elite class is incompetent -- even kings could be incompetent without undermining belief in monarchy as a system -- it is that they are so grossly, spectacularly incompetent that they walk around among us as living rebuttals of meritocracy itself. It is that their application of managerial logic to whatever field they get their grubby mitts on -- from homelessness in California to industrial policy to running a war -- makes that thing ten times more expensive and a hundred times more dysfunctional. To make the situation worse, the current elites seem almost serene in their willful destruction of the very fields they rely on for legitimacy....

I find it very likely that most future historians will put the date of the real beginning of the collapse of the current political and geopolitical order right here, right now, at the US withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Look carefully, and you will see that all the real political disagreements today are between defenders of the Professional Managerial Class' right-to-rule -- NeverTrumpers and the liberal establishment, all so very proud of their degrees and comfortable upper-middle-class Class Mores --and those who believe the Professional Managerial Class is obscenely unqualified to rule, and meets each new failure with arrogance that the Serfs Just Don't Understand How Hard It Is To Rule.

Tom Nichols' twitter feed is nothing but the latter.

It's time to turn them all out into the streets. Their claim that "this will all fall apart unless you finally listen to us and believe our Cult Doctrines!" cannot be sustained when everything is falling apart on their watch and under their incompetent rule.

What additional failures would have accrued in Afghanistan without the sage input of the Foreign Policy Establishment, exemplified by such ludicrous puffed-up social studies teachers like Tom Nichols?

Posted by: Ace at 04:11 PM




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1 Okay, I will.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 03:11 PM (U7wke)

2 first

Posted by: Dark Helmet at August 19, 2021 03:11 PM (Oka5v)

3 dammit

Posted by: Dark Helmet at August 19, 2021 03:12 PM (Oka5v)

4 I'm beginning to suspect ace is just reading the comments for blog posts.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 03:12 PM (z5Vrg)

5 I called the otters.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at August 19, 2021 03:12 PM (U7wke)

6 Must be first.

Posted by: flounder at August 19, 2021 03:13 PM (KnJdm)

7 I feel like 2000-2016 was America ceding control to the managerial class and seeing how they did with the keys to the country.

Then the country took the keys back.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 03:13 PM (LvTSG)

8 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 19, 2021 03:13 PM (Zz0t1)

9 Newman.

Posted by: flounder at August 19, 2021 03:13 PM (KnJdm)

10 oh, i believe we will turn them out, and it's going to look a lot like the streets of paris circa 1785....

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at August 19, 2021 03:13 PM (8D42x)

11 >>>4 I'm beginning to suspect ace is just reading the comments for blog posts.

not "just"

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2021 03:13 PM (0G13K)

12
"Internet Influencers" are the new Aristocracy.

(does that even make sense? I dunno )

Posted by: Soothsayer is a Movie Critic, Now! at August 19, 2021 03:14 PM (f9z5j)

13 It is very much worth reading.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:14 PM (3p5uk)

14 Wow. That is quite sobering.

Posted by: Mishdog at August 19, 2021 03:14 PM (cqAUI)

15 "Imagine how much worse it would be if we WEREN'T in charge!!!!"

-The technocrats, probably

Posted by: Dr. T at August 19, 2021 03:14 PM (bhRsz)

16 Look carefully, and you will see that all the real political disagreements today are between defenders of the Professional Managerial Class' right-to-rule -- NeverTrumpers and the liberal establishment, all so very proud of their degrees and comfortable upper-middle-class Class Mores --and those who believe the Professional Managerial Class is obscenely unqualified to rule, and meets each new failure with arrogance that the Serfs Just Don't Understand How Hard It Is To Rule.
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Yes. It is about right to rule. They think they have it, and will do anything to enforce it against those who have no right to rule. This will work right until it doesn't, and then there's a revolution.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:15 PM (3p5uk)

17 It's time to turn them all out into the streets.


It's time to bring out the Trebuchets.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2021 03:15 PM (ql3m8)

18 It's no treatise on Kaboom, that's for sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 03:15 PM (LvTSG)

19 Leaving people to die in Afghanistan is infrastructure.

Posted by: ... at August 19, 2021 03:15 PM (mhQH9)

20 Tom Nichols is more worthless than expert.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 19, 2021 03:15 PM (NOuS6)

21 The managerial class has been weighed in the balance and found...wanting?

Posted by: Thrawn at August 19, 2021 03:16 PM (wQb4c)

22 I'm part of the managerial class and I hate my class.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 19, 2021 03:16 PM (GQ5VU)

23 19 Leaving people to die in Afghanistan is infrastructure.
Posted by: ... at August 19, 2021 03:15 PM (mhQH9)

___

Close it up. We have a thread winner.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 19, 2021 03:16 PM (GQ5VU)

24 That's some lengthy (and girthy) content!

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 19, 2021 03:17 PM (WmGrA)

25 Fuck all that, It is time to bring out the Woodchippers.

Posted by: rd at August 19, 2021 03:17 PM (Z32m1)

26 >>>23 19 Leaving people to die in Afghanistan is infrastructure.
Posted by: ... a

lol

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2021 03:17 PM (0G13K)

27
"It is not just that the elite class is incompetent -- even kings could be incompetent without undermining belief in monarchy as a system"

Same could said of Popes and the Roman Catholic Church. One fuckup king after another. One lecherous pope after another. And yet the Catholic church carried on.

Posted by: Soothsayer is a Movie Critic, Now! at August 19, 2021 03:17 PM (f9z5j)

28 I've thought for a while now that the best way to challenge Fauci and his ilk, and make them genuinely mad, isn't to invoke the importance of liberty--they've said plainly they don't care about that--but to question their intelligence and competence. Denying their claim to expertise takes away all of their power, and they know it.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 19, 2021 03:17 PM (bhRsz)

29 I can deliver a Kaboom to this managerial class.

And a bunch of Instant Martians, too.

Posted by: Marvin Martian at August 19, 2021 03:17 PM (VdLsO)

30 Their claim that "this will all fall apart unless you finally listen to us and believe our Cult Doctrines!" cannot be sustained when everything is falling apart on their watch and under their incompetent rule.

**

There are people who are no-sh*t saying that the reason masks aren't stopping the variants is because they're variants and not the original COVID-19.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Afghanistan's the same as Biden increasing insulin costs because Trump did it at August 19, 2021 03:17 PM (HBEnm)

31 I didn't think it was that good an article. Basically our elites ain't is the point I guess. They are glib, but without eloquence, educated, but without wisdom, and smug, without great accomplishment.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 03:17 PM (yQpMk)

32 Tom Nichols is more worthless than expert.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 19, 2021 03:15 PM (NOuS6)
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Tom Nichols is the perfect example of the managerial ruling class.

He's right because he must be right because he's an expert. He knows it and all of his expert friends confirm it. If he ends up not being right (that is, he ends up being wrong) it isn't because he failed but because you - you mewling cowards who don't know what's good for you - rejected him and moved against his expert-class advice and refused to build the world he's entitled to as your ruler.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:18 PM (3p5uk)

33 Politicians, actors and whores.

At least whores are useful.

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 19, 2021 03:18 PM (F4y8l)

34
boobs

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (XvPQV)

35 "Internet Influencers" are the new Aristocracy.

(does that even make sense? I dunno )
Posted by: Soothsayer is a Movie Critic, Now! at August 19, 2021 03:14 PM (f9z5j)


Sense?

Sense, you say?

Posted by: Dr. T at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (bhRsz)

36
So based on length, tinkzorg hated this movie, but Teh Ewok was neutral?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (n+4am)

37 Our current credentialed ruling class are demonstrably dumber than the average American. I say that, because Joe Average usually learns from his mistakes, rather than doubling down.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (zc1AC)

38 I got lost on the third paragraph. It baked my noodle and I thought I was in fantasy novel.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (JTpIQ)

39 US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the mission in Afghanistan has been a success.

I got this sweet job and an even better no show one lined up after it. I mean...does it get any better?

Posted by: Antony Blinken at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (DpkTQ)

40
Just a wacky guess, here, but I think biden's disaster in Afghanistan will eventually be called...

"an absolute triumph" by literally Everyone in Media.

Posted by: Soothsayer is a Movie Critic, Now! at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (f9z5j)

41 So, in other words, elitists suck balls and we should throw them all out and elect and employ people who actually know how to get things done, not espouse theories about how things should be?

I am in. Lets roll and throw all the bums and bureaucrats out on their asses.

Burn it down and start over.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (haWye)

42 Nichols is right that we have a problem these days, a crisis even, with people rejecting expertise and experts.

But the experts caused this. It was twofold in its origin though. First off experts did this to themselves with their corruption, bias, deliberate manipulation of data and results to a preferred narrative, and flat out incompetence that has destroyed anyone's confidence in expertise.

Second, the internet made it possible to find someone, somewhere, that supports one's position no matter how crazy, false, illogical, or stupid it is. These are presented like experts in a court trial, thrown at each other and outsiders who know little to nothing on the subject cannot determine who to trust.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (KZzsI)

43 22 I'm part of the managerial class and I hate my class.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 19, 2021 03:16 PM (GQ5VU)

Well that's a good sign! They play an important role in a functioning society but tend to go through decay cycles that have seemingly only ever been addressed successfully by purges.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (z5Vrg)

44 Tom Nichols is the perfect example of the managerial ruling class.

He's right because he must be right because he's an expert. He knows it and all of his expert friends confirm it. If he ends up not being right (that is, he ends up being wrong) it isn't because he failed but because you - you mewling cowards who don't know what's good for you - rejected him and moved against his expert-class advice and refused to build the world he's entitled to as your ruler.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Except he's not ruling class. He's a functionary, a peon in the court. And I suspect he has at least one small skeleton in his closet.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (1t5dY)

45 so, always wrong but never in doubt? something like that?

Posted by: micky at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (3byMq)

46 Read this yesterday. It's awesome. Best read out loud.
He gets at the heart of what many of us have sensed--and commented about here in our own way-- for a long time.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (mR6Gs)

47 Much of this is a result of the overproduction of Elites.

DDG "overproduction of elites" and/or "Peter Turchin".

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (a3Q+t)

48 When the poor revolt, cities burn. When the rich revolt you have economies burn, but when the middle class revolts, nations burn.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (yQpMk)

49 boobs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (XvPQV)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (kTF2Z)

50 I don't want to be ruled.
I don't want to rule over anyone.

I want to be left alone to live my life, enjoy the company of my (fewer) friends, eat a good steak occasionally, drink to excess when I feel like it and maybe get laid someday.

Is that too much to ask?

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (kfLvq)

51 Whatever happened to the Mandarin class in Chyna?

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (WmGrA)

52 Video of Aussie police violating the Nuremberg code and forcibly jabbing a kid https://tinyurl.com/5zrj8yrw

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (DpkTQ)

53 One of the very interesting facets of that essay is on how it isn't incompetence but illegitimacy that brings down a ruling structure, and that they needn't track with each other. See the various incompetent kings and presidents that didn't end monarchy or republicanism, for example.

One of his points, and I think it deserves a lot of thought, is that when a ruling structure gets to the point of talking about benefits and material goods, it has already failed. It lost moral legitimacy and is fighting a rear-guard action by pivoting to efficacy - except it's wrong and they're ineffective or they wouldn't need to make the pivot in the first place.

That's an interesting idea.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (3p5uk)

54 >> it is that they are so grossly, spectacularly incompetent that they walk around among us as living rebuttals of meritocracy itself.


It's not a meritocracy when you look at the CVs of the people making these dumb and/or grossly partisan decision and keep seeing Harvard, Yale, Rhodes scholar, Council Foreign Relations, WEF, etc.. Overe and over you see these people have been hanging together in some capacity for most of their adult lives, regardless of seeming to suddenly decide to run for office after recently relocating from DC to some flyover state/small town.

As the saying goes: it's a big club, and you're not in it.

Who knows how these guys and gals get into the club -- one assumes family, money, connections -- but once in, they just keep moving up and promoting people like just like them to surround themselves.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2021 03:21 PM (bDqIh)

55 I think the professional managerial class is still being run by a much smaller global cabal that controls a majority of the world's wealth. They are useful idiots to that small but powerful group...but they are allowed some of the filthy lucre to keep them loyal.

Posted by: DitkaCA at August 19, 2021 03:21 PM (kVjCi)

56
I'm rapidly evolving from "Let It Burn" to "Where Did You Put My Fucking Matches?"

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2021 03:21 PM (n+4am)

57 If it's such a success, shouldn't everyone be claiming to be its father??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 19, 2021 03:21 PM (UHVv4)

58 Afghanistan would have been a success if it wasn't for us wreckers and saboteurs and our unreasonable demands for ... [ checks notes] victory.

Posted by: Mrm88 at August 19, 2021 03:21 PM (jIL4c)

59 I once had an argument with an associate professor of some nobody university about Barack Obama's extremely thin list of accomplishments.

My argument was essentially that everyone is calling Barry O this once in a generation genius, but where was the actual evidence of that? He has degrees and won some elections, sure, but where are the tangible, standalone artifacts of his genius?

Did he produce a proof, an invention, an analysis, anything?

The podunk associate professor's argument was the degrees were proof enough of genius and he wouldn't be persuaded that the lack of tangible, standalone artifacts was remarkable.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:21 PM (UW2ZS)

60 We might not know what the results will be, but we can feel that something quite big is happening. Watching the fall of the Berlin wall was one such moment in recent history, and watching the twin towers fall was another one.

***

I hate having to accept that the latter is related entirely to the crux of the article, and - worse still - was probably aided and calculated by the same.

I don't think it was ALL an inside job, but knowing what has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt since 2016, I absolutely believe it was allowed and encouraged by the insiders in pursuit of where we are now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Afghanistan's the same as Biden increasing insulin costs because Trump did it at August 19, 2021 03:21 PM (HBEnm)

61 It is not just that the elite class is incompetent -- even kings could be incompetent without undermining belief in monarchy as a system -- it is that they are so grossly, spectacularly incompetent that they walk around among us as living rebuttals of meritocracy itself.

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Its not that they are simply incompetent, its that they are illegitimate.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 19, 2021 03:22 PM (cMXNt)

62 I hope the author is right that the failure of the managerial class is obvious to American's generally. I feel most Americans aren't paying enough attention to notice. But if say 60% of the public agrees they have no mandate to rule, what then? Does anyone here think [actual] votes matter? The managerial class certainly isn't worried about consent or approval from their subjects.

Posted by: pashmr at August 19, 2021 03:22 PM (LQgJ8)

63 boobs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM


Suckle up.

Posted by: Trigglypuff at August 19, 2021 03:22 PM (a3Q+t)

64 Redefining failure since January 2021.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 19, 2021 03:22 PM (JUOKG)

65 Same could said of Popes and the Roman Catholic Church. One fuckup king after another. One lecherous pope after another. And yet the Catholic church carried on.
Posted by: Soothsayer is a Movie Critic, Now! at August 19, 2021 03:17 PM (f9z5j)

Kings are rarely essential to the daily functioning of a society. Their most important function is to crush the bureaucracy when it gets out of hand. Without a great deal of centralization the bureaucracy doesn't often get out of hand anyways.

Catholic Church practices "subsidiarity" so it's extremely robust.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 03:22 PM (z5Vrg)

66 A good read... very current scifi has future societies organized in ways that promote a sort of managerial/technocracy hegemony over, oftentimes whole swaths of the galaxy... and give a blithe handwave to individualism, portraying the subjects being basically contented with being cogs in a machine. Then, throw in benevolent AIs calling the shots for us....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2021 03:22 PM (6Je/Q)

67 I'm so old I remember Robert McNamara and his, "Whiz Kids".
Kissinger and his brand of global realpolitik.
Woodrow Wilson, (Piss be upon him), and his desire to rule by experts. No need for Congress, courts or the will of the people.
FDR, LBJ, more of the same with more evil intent.
The lobbying class in DC. Think tanks. NGO's now.
Experts at lining their own pockets.
Spit.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at August 19, 2021 03:22 PM (FtJ1S)

68 I don't want to be ruled.
I don't want to rule over anyone.

I want to be left alone to live my life, enjoy the company of my (fewer) friends, eat a good steak occasionally, drink to excess when I feel like it and maybe get laid someday.

Is that too much to ask?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (kfLvq)

I think most people--in their hearts --want exactly this.
But sometimes life makes it too complicated.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:22 PM (mR6Gs)

69 Except he's not ruling class. He's a functionary, a peon in the court. And I suspect he has at least one small skeleton in his closet.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (1t5dY)


True on all fronts, probably (especially regarding any skeletons), but he parrots and defends the ruling class's decrees, and so helps to shore up its authority. A small cog, but an important one.

So he tells himself, anyway.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 19, 2021 03:22 PM (bhRsz)

70 Politicians, actors and whores.

At least whores are useful.
Posted by: Roland THTG at August 19, 2021 03:18 PM (F4y8l)

You pay a whore, she works in your best interest. Politicians and actors, not so much.

Posted by: tbodie at August 19, 2021 03:23 PM (YE5vl)

71 Nichols is right that we have a problem these days, a crisis even, with people rejecting expertise and experts.

But the experts caused this. It was twofold in its origin though. First off experts did this to themselves with their corruption, bias, deliberate manipulation of data and results to a preferred narrative, and flat out incompetence that has destroyed anyone's confidence in expertise. ...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (KZzsI)
++++
Yes. And this will be a problem well into the future, likely for generations. Science as such - that is, the scientific method and empirical fact discovered and test through continuous attempts at invalidation - is hugely valuable and leads to tremendous advancement. And it's dead, and people's trust in it is dead. It isn't dead because it's wrong - it isn't - but because the people championing it were lying and subverting it. That is going set us back for a very long time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:23 PM (3p5uk)

72 Xi fears losing the Mandate of Heaven; the West's bureaucracies fear losing the Man Date of Heaven.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 19, 2021 03:23 PM (UHVv4)

73 I'm kinda meh on the article. It's very Euro-centric and has some slanted slams on Trump.

Meh.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:23 PM (XvPQV)

74 The podunk associate professor's argument was the degrees were proof enough of genius

**

Barry could read out loud in public.

That was literally what made him impressive to leftists who don't work or live around black people.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Afghanistan's the same as Biden increasing insulin costs because Trump did it at August 19, 2021 03:23 PM (HBEnm)

75 Completely fits the polling Rich Baris has been doing.

All of politics and voting patterns are dividing into three classes; the dependent poor, the working class, and the credentialed class.

The credentialed class used to be GOP but has been moving to Democrat. The dependent poor remains Democrat. The working class is often registered and raised Democrat, but it now voting Republican (really populist, so voting Trump).

The classes cross racial boundaries, even though credentialed class is mostly white/asian and dependent poor is mostly black/hispanic.

But the voting blocks are defined by class, not by any other distinction. And working class remains by far the largest block. Which is why importing more dependent poor is critically important to the Democrats.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (5p7BC)

76 I think most people--in their hearts --want exactly this.
But sometimes life makes it too complicated.


Most people don't want freedom, they want a fair master.

And if they can't find a fair one, well, still better then having to make, and live with, your own decisions.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (DpkTQ)

77 Afghanistan.

You do realize the worst is yet to come? The next few weeks will be horrific, as the videos leak out. The stonings, the rapes, the slave block sales, the executions in the streets.

That is the reason they are keeping Joe around. For Now. They don't want Kamala saddled with those horrific, demoralizing, enraging images at the beginning of her reign. Joe will be the scapegoat they pin all their incompetent crimes on. Except I don't think Dr. Jill will play along.

Posted by: rd at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (Z32m1)

78 The podunk associate professor's argument was the degrees were proof enough of genius and he wouldn't be persuaded that the lack of tangible, standalone artifacts was remarkable.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:21 PM (UW2ZS)



The one fact we know about the smarts of Barry Soetoro, Super Genius, is that he wasn't even a National Merit Semifinalist.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (yQpMk)

79
What's that song that goes ev..ry..bod..y wants to rule the world?

Posted by: Soothsayer is a Movie Critic, Now! at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (f9z5j)

80 The podunk associate professor's argument was the degrees were proof enough of genius and he wouldn't be persuaded that the lack of tangible, standalone artifacts was remarkable.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:21 PM (UW2ZS)

Like in The Wizard of Oz

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (mR6Gs)

81 I've been saying for a while that we don't have leadership, we have management. Managers and Leaders aren't the same thing, although some of their skillsets overlap.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (jOcSX)

82 49 boobs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (XvPQV)

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I don't get it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (kTF2Z)

I'm trying to get a boobs thread from Ace

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (XvPQV)

83 I don't want to be ruled.
I don't want to rule over anyone.

I want to be left alone to live my life, enjoy the company of my (fewer) friends, eat a good steak occasionally, drink to excess when I feel like it and maybe get laid someday.

Is that too much to ask?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (kfLvq)
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Newsletter?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (LBiAf)

84 For example, take a look at the WEF's list of Fellows over the years and you see Emanuel Macron, Jacinda Ahern, Pete Butiigeig, Dan Crenshaw, Megan Rapinoe -- funny how all of these people are right in the thick of this Great Reset in one capacity or another, huh? But that's not the only organization like that, there are the ivies and other NGOs that seem to keep getting their people in kep decision-making spots, steering us right into disaster -- unexpectedly(tm)!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2021 03:25 PM (bDqIh)

85 68 I don't want to be ruled.
I don't want to rule over anyone.

I want to be left alone to live my life, enjoy the company of my (fewer) friends, eat a good steak occasionally, drink to excess when I feel like it and maybe get laid someday.

Is that too much to ask?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (kfLvq)

If the Horde ever decides to form our own country, I would say these words should be part of our new "Declaration of Independence". Every single word.

Thanks Nurse!

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 19, 2021 03:25 PM (N39Ws)

86 The managerial class is another entity holding those trillions of dollars of unfunded liabilities we've promised ourselves hostage.

Posted by: DaveA at August 19, 2021 03:25 PM (FhXTo)

87 Except he's not ruling class. He's a functionary, a peon in the court. And I suspect he has at least one small skeleton in his closet.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (1t5dY)
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He's still ruling class. He's not a big shot, but he is in the club. The low-level toadies and courtiers in the king's court were in the ruling class, even if they were useless eaters with no power. Their position, though, gave them good lives regardless.

Tom Nichols is a sniveling little toady, but he's in the ruling class. And there's little else that needs to be said about the ruling class given his presence in it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:25 PM (3p5uk)

88 82
I'm trying to get a boobs thread from Ace

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (XvPQV)

Be careful of what you wish for. You may get it.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (N39Ws)

89 I think part of this was the way they separated themselves from the rest of the country. While there was a draft, there was some mixing of the classes. As they took their children out of the military and into elitest schools, they could stop thinking of us as humans with anything to contribute.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (YynYJ)

90 What's that song that goes ev..ry..bod..y wants to rule the world?
Posted by: Soothsayer is a Movie Critic, Now! at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (f9z5j)

Do you mean 'Everybody Wants to Rule the World' by Tears for Fears?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (XvPQV)

91 Send in the clowns, oh, they're already here.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (Jxqr2)

92 I want to be left alone to live my life, enjoy the company of my (fewer) friends, eat a good steak occasionally, drink to excess when I feel like it and maybe get laid someday.

Pretty much my sentiment nurse!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (nxdel)

93 They wanted catastrophic America-humiliating failure.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (II3Gr)

94 nurse, I'm with you... but for the Marxist elites, what we want is absolutely unacceptable...

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (6Je/Q)

95 It's not really all that new of an idea though. The founder of a certain rag we were making fun of earlier said this (it varies a bit by each retelling) --

"I would rather be governed by the first 2,000 people in the telephone directory than by the Harvard University faculty," Mr. Buckley has said -- though it looks as if his worst fear is being realized.

via quoteinvestigator.com

Of course Buckley got his degree from Yale, another 'elite' school.

Pogo sez "We have met the enemy and he is us". Nods.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (F0YaR)

96 What was the dystopian movie where bureaucrats ran a steam punk type society. I never watched the whole thing.

Brazil?

Posted by: Just a side note at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (2DOZq)

97 Most people don't want freedom, they want a fair master.

They want freedom to do what they want--but not face the consequences , if doing what they want leads to becoming broke, sick, addicted or fat.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (mR6Gs)

98 It has obvious for quite a while that we are ruled by people with average intelligence at best. Just watch a congressional hearing, a presidential press conference, heck a school board meeting. The worst part is, they think they are the smartest people in the room.

Posted by: Tofer732 at August 19, 2021 03:27 PM (kUGet)

99 It's not a meritocracy when you look at the CVs of the people making these dumb and/or grossly partisan decision and keep seeing Harvard, Yale, Rhodes scholar, Council Foreign Relations, WEF, etc.. Overe and over you see these people have been hanging together in some capacity for most of their adult lives, regardless of seeming to suddenly decide to run for office after recently relocating from DC to some flyover state/small town.

As the saying goes: it's a big club, and you're not in it.

Who knows how these guys and gals get into the club -- one assumes family, money, connections -- but once in, they just keep moving up and promoting people like just like them to surround themselves.


Meritocracies are fragile. As soon as someone gets in, he starts trying to set the system so his children are in as well. And any system of honest evaluations eventually becomes "gamed" once everyone knows how they will be evaluated. I remember years ago there was an interview with a Rhodes Scholarship admissions officer who admitted that their applicants were all the very people that they didn't want: resume-perfect students who all had the same credentials.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:27 PM (jOcSX)

100
"The greatest guilt of today is that of people who accept collectivism by moral default; the people who seek protection from the necessity of taking a stand, by refusing to admit to themselves the nature of that which they are accepting; the people who support plans specifically designed to achieve serfdom, but hide behind the empty assertion that they are lovers of freedom, with no concrete meaning attached to the word; the people who believe that the content of ideas need not be examined, that principles need not be defined, and that facts can be eliminated by keeping one's eyes shut. They expect, when they find themselves in a world of bloody ruins and concentration camps, to escape moral responsibility by wailing: "But I didn't mean this!"

-- Ayn Rand

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 19, 2021 03:27 PM (KLuIa)

101 I don't want to be ruled.
I don't want to rule over anyone.

I want to be left alone to live my life, enjoy the company of my (fewer) friends, eat a good steak occasionally, drink to excess when I feel like it and maybe get laid someday.

Is that too much to ask?
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (kfLvq)
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I want exactly the same things, Nurse.

And apparently yes, it is too much to ask.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:27 PM (3p5uk)

102 I want Jen Rubin to face a mob trial in a very public square. I also want these experts to look at old photos of Mussolini and his mistress at the end of WWII.

Posted by: Winston Smith at August 19, 2021 03:27 PM (ZD/7n)

103 I'm trying to get a boobs thread from Ace

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (XvPQV)

Be careful of what you wish for. You may get it.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (N39Ws)

Damn it!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:27 PM (XvPQV)

104 Sounds like a Rush album.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 19, 2021 03:27 PM (xPl2J)

105 And it's dead, and people's trust in it is dead. It isn't dead because it's wrong - it isn't - but because the people championing it were lying and subverting it. That is going set us back for a very long time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:23 PM (3p5uk)

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This. I'd be fascinated to know how many people aren't going to get a flu shot anymore. I would bet the numbers dropped by 80% or more.

Also I think it was you that posted the AAP actively deleting the last 100+ years of science about how children develop properly by looking at faces in order to promote the government mask mandates.

Evil isn't the right word for what's happening right now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Afghanistan's the same as Biden increasing insulin costs because Trump did it at August 19, 2021 03:27 PM (HBEnm)

106 I'm trying to get a boobs thread from Ace

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (XvPQV)

Be careful of what you wish for. You may get it.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (N39Ws


I'm Here !

Posted by: Yoko Ono at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (M+Lyo)

107 Here's a hypothetical question...

Could a US president demand everyone go on a diet and get a certain amount of exercise a day?

There is literally no better way to protect yourself from COVID then to be thin.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (DpkTQ)

108 Who knows how these guys and gals get into the club -- one assumes family, money, connections -- but once in, they just keep moving up and promoting people like just like them to surround themselves.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2021 03:21 PM (bDqIh)

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I'm reading a book that seems to cover that question "The Power Elite." So far, the author seems to be making the case the top families are so intertwined via marriage and school, where we are now was the inevitable result. Which would make the book remarkably prescient, being as it was written in the fifties. Though, I do concede the book may turn out to be communist claptrap.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (zc1AC)

109 How does someone like Kevin Clinesmith become an untouchable member of the ruling class?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (OoCxN)

110 We might not know what the results will be, but we can feel that something quite big is happening. Watching the fall of the Berlin wall was one such moment in recent history, and watching the twin towers fall was another one.

Yep. Everyone knows we're in a period of enormous change and something incredible is happening. And that its not good.

We're at a major epochal change in human history. Its been a very long time since this happened last time: when civilization ground to a halt and started going in reverse. Usually this happens rather quickly, collapsing with shocking speed and totality leaving only the ruined remnants behind.

Like Britons breaking apart Roman buildings to make homes out of, not even sure how on earth people could have built those temples and ruins to begin with. These are, to put it mildly, bad times.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (KZzsI)

111 Meritocracies are fragile. As soon as someone gets in, he starts trying to set the system so his children are in as well. And any system of honest evaluations eventually becomes "gamed" once everyone knows how they will be evaluated. ...
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:27 PM (jOcSX)
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Which is how a meritocracy becomes an aristocracy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (3p5uk)

112 Wow. Australia has gone full Beria.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (Xrfse)

113 We live in a world turned upside down, where failure is promotes as success simply because it was the brainchild of people who claim themselves superior. That we've surrendered to such people and their bureaucrats without a fight is even more puzzling. At what point did people start to value specious arguments from authoritarians regarding their mortality for individual freedom? Is that where we are now, trading clearly fallacious arguments many are to lazy to deconstruct and resist in order to comfort our rulers and assuage our sloth?

This is the essence of tyranny and despotism. It presages a future of slavery to the state and its oligarchy of caretakers. If that is our future it portends bondage to the whims and desires of people who not only don't care about you or your family, but would rather see them dead then surrender power. How far we've fallen.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (kbvR/)

114 I postulated early on, that the real war problem in our country is the DC / New York / San Fran 'ruling class', vs the rest of the country.

They hold TREMENDOUS power, with a very incestuous small group, that includes the media. Look at how many of the 'media' are either related or married to someone in the managerial or political classes.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (oHd/0)

115 Of course Buckley got his degree from Yale, another 'elite' school.

Pogo sez "We have met the enemy and he is us". Nods.
Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 19, 2021 03:26 PM (F0YaR)


He also wrote "God and Man at Yale" so he seems to have come out of it with a distaste for his peers. And that's usually what happens: as the "elite" become less so, eventually one amongst their ranks who is still competent eventually realizes that they are weak to overthrow, and he has access to the institutions necessary to do so.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (jOcSX)

116 39 US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the mission in Afghanistan has been a success.

I got this sweet job and an even better no show one lined up after it. I mean...does it get any better?

Posted by: Antony Blinken at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (DpkTQ)


Tony didn't sign-up for jobs like this one. He signed-up to negotiate carbon limit treaties, to attend women's and tranny rights conferences in Geneva with hundreds of foreign twits, to pretend to be tough on China, and to get the surrender to Iran over their nukes back on track.

Posted by: Gref at August 19, 2021 03:29 PM (AMIL/)

117 Honestly, there's a simplier way to observe this.

Windows 8. Does anyone think they did usability studies on it before release? Or does it feel like developers thought it made sense to them and that was enough.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 19, 2021 03:29 PM (YynYJ)

118 Anyone click MUMR's link???

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2021 03:29 PM (6Je/Q)

119 I want exactly the same things, Nurse.

And apparently yes, it is too much to ask.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:27 PM (3p5uk)

To stop the depredations of the eunuchs, they must be slain and power seized from them. Someone will have to do it and others will have to help.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 03:29 PM (z5Vrg)

120 I'm trying to get a boobs thread from Ace

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:24 PM (XvPQV)

Hi, how is everyone

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 19, 2021 03:29 PM (M+Lyo)

121 "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies." CS Lewis

This is the tyranny of the managerial class - the 'experts' that Nichols desperately needs to be included in, if for no other reason than avoiding getting shipped off to some worker's paradise camp in the lithium mines of Mongolia by some cruel curl-lipped American lefties.

Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2021 03:29 PM (5iUNf)

122 Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (DpkTQ)

*types deletes*

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 19, 2021 03:30 PM (4qhiJ)

123 We da people. Gonna have to make it known sooner or later.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 03:30 PM (OoCxN)

124 >>>69 Except he's not ruling class. He's a functionary, a peon in the court. And I suspect he has at least one small skeleton in his closet.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (1t5dY)


True on all fronts, probably (especially regarding any skeletons), but he parrots and defends the ruling class's decrees, and so helps to shore up its authority. A small cog, but an important one.

...

mere aspirants to a class are always the most strident apologists for/boosters of a class. By constantly defending that class, they hope to solidify their credentials to join it.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2021 03:30 PM (0G13K)

125 It's not what you know it's who you know.

It's been that way forever.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 19, 2021 03:30 PM (2DOZq)

126 I postulated early on, that the real war problem in our country is the DC / New York / San Fran 'ruling class', vs the rest of the country.

One of the simplest ways to tell the elites were never that concerned about COVID - they never shut down the NYC subway.

The answer I got at the time was "but it would make life hard for people in NYC".

In the next breathe though permanent house arrest for everyone, forever, was considered perfectly reasonable.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 03:30 PM (DpkTQ)

127 Wow. Australia has gone full Beria.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (Xrfse)
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Never go full Beria, man.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (LBiAf)

128 Scheming demons
Dressed in kingly guise
Beating down the multitude
And scoffing at the wise

Posted by: Zombie Neil Peart at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (2cfUo)

129 He also wrote "God and Man at Yale" so he seems to have come out of it with a distaste for his peers. And that's usually what happens: as the "elite" become less so, eventually one amongst their ranks who is still competent eventually realizes that they are weak to overthrow, and he has access to the institutions necessary to do so.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (jOcSX)

Yes the decadent elites are most often overthrown and massacred by a non-decadent elite. Of note usually they are what might be considered more "rural", like Napoleon from Corsica, coming from the fringes of the empire.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (z5Vrg)

130 Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (kbvR/)

We've also elevated Victimhood into some type of heroism. It isn't. Victims should be pitied, not honored.

While real Heroes, are sent to foreign countries to die for nothing.

This both sad, AND destructive.

Because you get MORE of what you reward, and less of what you punish.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (oHd/0)

131 IMO it's the hangers on that keep the managerial class in power. You know the type.

They're not the bully. They stand behind the bully and give him legitimacy. Bullies are often cowardly, weak and stupid. But the hangers on are too cowardly, weak and stupid to even be the bully.

What these barnacles are good at is being yes men and inflating someone else's ego and importance, all in the service of getting ahead. The entire media class, especially the self-appointed conservative chatterers, is Waylon Smithers to the Uniparty's Monty Burns.

"Yes sir. Great idea, sir. You're the best, sir. It's everyone else who's wrong, sir."

Posted by: ... at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (mhQH9)

132 We need a constitutional amendment barring Ivy League grads from public service.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (OoCxN)

133 I'm all in on Theocracy.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (45fpk)

134 Huh
Sonny Chiba is dead?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (XvPQV)

135
Meritocracies are fragile. As soon as someone gets in, he starts trying to set the system so his children are in as well.

This is why Trump got virtually NO help from anyone in the Senate, the House or SCOTUS. ACB and Kav have children. Being perceived to be helping Trump would get you kicked out of the Club.

Ditto the members of the media

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (mR6Gs)

136 I read this yesterday. My main take away was that we, the ones stuck with the burden and consequences, must reject being lied to by people who have done little but lie to us for quite some time.

Posted by: ErikInTexas at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (M9SBl)

137 Multiple callers reported two naked men running westbound on Jefferson Street from Terry Avenue [in Seattle]. One of the men was bleeding significantly, and the other appeared to be chasing him with scissors. The victim ran to the emergency room entrance of Harborview Medical Center and was treated for multiple stab wounds.

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Well,
1) At least he wasn't carrying a concealed weapon.

B) I hope they were wearing masks.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (d9FiS)

138 Tom Nichols is a sniveling little toady, but he's in the ruling class. And there's little else that needs to be said about the ruling class given his presence in it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Not that it matters that much, but, no.

He has no pull. If he did he wouldn't be such a conspicuous, loud-mouth turd. He'd be quiet as a mouse in the Cathedral.

Do you think he could have you arrested with a phone call? I don't. Think of someone genuinely in the 'class.' They would be able to do so and probably much more.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (1t5dY)

139 > Windows 8. Does anyone think they did usability studies on it before release? Or does it feel like developers thought it made sense to them and that was enough.

I was at Microsoft then. They absolutely had usability studies.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (UW2ZS)

140 @124: "... they hope to solidify their credentials to join it."

And hopefully be next to last thrown off the lifeboats when time comes.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (+WWsf)

141 Ya Boi Zach in the sidebar: great stuff.

Posted by: m at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (6dJKT)

142 Most of the problem with our intelligentsia is not that they aren't smart, though few really are, it's that they are arrogant in their ignorance. An Average Joe can make a great boss and leader because he recognizes that he doesn't know everything.

I used to bitch about Hillary, who at the age of 50, realized that even cleaning women are people too and worthy of respect. It wasn't her stunted maturity that bugged me though. It was that, having had this revelation at 50 years of age, rushed out to tells us about it. Because, seriously, if she just thought of it, the rest of us must not know it.

In the before time, men spent an entire lifetime of study and effort, just in the hope of having an original and useful thought. The mental midgets today, totally ignorant of history, think they have a new idea every day.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (yQpMk)

143 I'm all in on Theocracy.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (45fpk)
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I'm not. Merging ecclesiastical power with state power is usually a very bad idea.

At this point, though, I'd consider monarchy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (3p5uk)

144 B) I hope they were wearing masks.

Glory holes are an acceptable alternative.

Posted by: Dr Fauci at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (DpkTQ)

145 Video of Aussie police violating the Nuremberg code and forcibly jabbing a kid https://tinyurl.com/5zrj8yrw

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (DpkTQ)


Was that her father holding her?

Posted by: Jordan61, I am the 10% at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (Ez6QX)

146 When I first entered the professional ranks as a cub-engineer, I learned that manager are a determent to the company's goals. Within a year I had gotten three of them fired by pointing out their repeated fuck ups. If it were today, I'd have been fired I guess.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (w5raC)

147 We need a constitutional amendment barring Ivy League grads from public service.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (OoCxN)


Wouldn't do any good. They'd just shift to something else. It's playing whack-a-mole with corruption and stupidity.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (jOcSX)

148 . . . Could a US president demand everyone go on a diet and get a certain amount of exercise a day?

There is literally no better way to protect yourself from COVID then to be thin.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 202


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Yeah. Whatever happened to the President's Council on Physical Fitness?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (/XOcP)

149 mere aspirants to a class are always the most strident apologists for/boosters of a class. By constantly defending that class, they hope to solidify their credentials to join it.
Posted by: ace at August 19, 2021 03:30 PM (0G13K)

Yup, its the 'ugly High School Girl who wants to be a cheerleader' syndrome.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (oHd/0)

150 The victim ran to the emergency room entrance of Harborview Medical Center and was treated for multiple stab wounds.

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Wait, how is that possible since all the emergency rooms are so full of people dying of COVID?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Afghanistan's the same as Biden increasing insulin costs because Trump did it at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (HBEnm)

151 >>US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the mission in Afghanistan has been a success


After Benghazi the Obama admin was able to bully the survivors into signing NDAs and relocating, remaining anonymous, with the exception of the few security guys, of course. Somehow I doubt Biden's team can dissappear the survivors of this debacle and the loved-ones of those who have or will be killed in the coming weeks. Too many.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (bDqIh)

152 To stop the depredations of the eunuchs, they must be slain and power seized from them. Someone will have to do it and others will have to help.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 03:29 PM (z5Vrg)
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And then we get Dong Zhuo.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 19, 2021 03:33 PM (LBiAf)

153 It's not what you know it's who you know.

There is nothing new under the sun.

What has changed is not the systems and their failings, but the ethical character of the people and culture. The left successfully cut god and all concept of absolute truth and virtue out of western civilization. Which is akin to plucking all the bones out of a man.

What's left is a pile of jelly unable to move or act with every part trying to control the whole and get the best out of it before its too late and it all dies.

All those corrupt structures were kept in check by a general shared sense of right and wrong, truth and falsehood, beauty and ugliness.

What the left has tried to replace the skeleton with is a random assortment of the strangest and most rotten things which changes almost daily.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:33 PM (KZzsI)

154 At this point, though, I'd consider monarchy.

Outside of formal Marxism I'd argue any form of government is better then what we have now.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 03:33 PM (DpkTQ)

155 He has no pull. If he did he wouldn't be such a conspicuous, loud-mouth turd. He'd be quiet as a mouse in the Cathedral.

Having no pull would explain the frustration.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 19, 2021 03:33 PM (NOuS6)

156 147 We need a constitutional amendment barring Ivy League grads from public service.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (OoCxN)

Wouldn't do any good. They'd just shift to something else. It's playing whack-a-mole with corruption and stupidity.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (jOcSX)

And at least half the Supreme Court, should be NON LAWYERS.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:33 PM (oHd/0)

157 That among these rights are life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and to be left the fuck alone to do what the fuck you want with your life without some fuckbrained bureaucrat at the EPA or some other fucking agency constantly fucking with you.

Might be a bit wordy.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2021 03:33 PM (kTF2Z)

158 Seems oddly appropriate that the essay starts by quoting Carl Schmitt, of all people; the Biden junta must love that guy.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 19, 2021 03:33 PM (otCYC)

159 When I was like 16,17 read one of my dad's books "The Peter Principle". Dad was a Yalie (class of 4 I think. Hospital administrator. My wife went to Rutgers she was enthralled by "Who Moved My Cheese". To me- kind of sums up the state of management mentality.

Posted by: pahound at August 19, 2021 03:33 PM (12ct+)

160 *wanders in*

Today is a shit show. Gimme dopamine.

https://tinyurl.com/4aa6vzvs

Also, hey, we have to get victory somewhere, right?

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (mf5HN)

161 >>US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the mission in Afghanistan has been a success.

Funny thing is, jackasses like him probably believe that is true.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (UuD2k)

162 WTactualF?!

@JerryDunleavy

State Dept's Overseas Security Advisory Council said Aug. 14: "Repatriation flights are not free, & passengers will be required to sign a promissory loan agreement & may not be eligible to renew their U.S. passports til the loan is repaid. Cost may be $2,000 or more per person."

https://tinyurl.com/ye9tn5ms

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (cF8AT)

163 Yeah. Whatever happened to the President's Council on Physical Fitness?

*Pointing like Donald Sutherland*
"FAT SHAMER! BODY SHAMING!!!!"
--crayola haired wymyn's studies graduate

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (KZzsI)

164 Success? Get all the military out then and call it a day.
No need to send anyone back there.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (znIQ9)

165 'Who moved my cheese' is one page worth of content, about dealing with change, stretched out into an excessive advance and book deal.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (XvPQV)

166 As I was reading this the song IGY started playing in my head.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (LaNzR)

167 He has no pull. If he did he wouldn't be such a conspicuous, loud-mouth turd. He'd be quiet as a mouse in the Cathedral.

Do you think he could have you arrested with a phone call? I don't. Think of someone genuinely in the 'class.' They would be able to do so and probably much more.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (1t5dY)
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I think we might be disagreeing on terms. He is in the class - just like low-level functionaries and courtiers were. Neither can get what they want and both have little or no power. He is not - just like the functionaries and courtiers weren't - in the elite of the class and he does not posses access to the levers of power.

He is truly useless, just like the monarchical hangers-on were all truly useless. He is less useful than a merchant, or a laborer or a store clerk because he produces nothing. He is less useful than someone important, because he controls nothing. He is mewling coward who orbits power and kisses the ring to ensure he gets to lay about in the corridors of power while achieving - and being - nothing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (3p5uk)

168 Presidential elections should be decided in the Thuderdome.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (UuD2k)

169 Today is a shit show. Gimme dopamine.

https://tinyurl.com/4aa6vzvs

Also, hey, we have to get victory somewhere, right?
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (mf5HN)

IT WORKED!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (XvPQV)

170 Good news, everybody!

State Department Spox Dismisses Americans Blocked From Kabul Airport As A 'Small Handful'

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Barely worth mentioning.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (d9FiS)

171 I'm not. Merging ecclesiastical power with state power is usually a very bad idea.


I agree, and Not that kind.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (45fpk)

172 That article is a fantastic read.



Oh, and thanks for the Victory T Alex.

Posted by: Muad'dib - Shhhhh Baby, We're in New South Wales at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (sjdRT)

173 Seriously, when was the last mention of a sycophant in any history that had any kind of power.

They don't. They exist to be patsies, holes, and butts of jokes.

Tom puts shoe polish on his tongue twice a day.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (1t5dY)

174 "And though he be careful in his politique Person to procure the common interest; yet he is more, or no lesse careful to procure the private good of himselfe, his family, his kindred and friends; and for the most part, if the publique interest chance to crosse the private,he preferrs the private: for the Passions of men, are commonly more potent then their reason."


Thomas Hobbes, Leviathan

Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (VpIIl)

175 The founding fathers made it absolutely clear: this system only has a chance of working if people are virtuous. If the people are not, it will eat its self as we are seeing, and implode into tyranny.

EVERY

TIME

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (KZzsI)

176 When they turn the pages of history
When these days have passed long ago
Will they read of us with sadness
For the seeds that we let grow?
We turned our gaze
From the castles in the distance
Eyes cast down
On the path of least resistance

Posted by: Zombie Neil Peart at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (2cfUo)

177 Today is a shit show. Gimme dopamine.

You madam are a great American.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (DpkTQ)

178 Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE MITCH MCCONNELL at August 19, 2021 03:23 PM (Pzzpr)
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You're a DICK!

Posted by: jeff spicoli's brother at August 19, 2021 03:36 PM (UHVv4)

179 I think Rush Limbaugh came to a similar conclusion as he got older.

Remember how on his program, he would sometimes gush about sleeping in the Bush WH, or sitting in some NFL owner's private box, get invited to a party at WFB's Townhouse, or almost brag about playing golf with the elites?

By the time Trump came along, he seemed to have soured on all that.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:36 PM (mR6Gs)

180 Dense, but brilliant. And yes, the American Empire officially died over the weekend.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at August 19, 2021 03:36 PM (oWBc3)

181 While you'd think our elitist overlords would be embarrassed with their continuous failures...they aren't. Charlie Sykes' latest Bulwark article shows he's disappointed in Biden's recent performance, but still happy he supported him. Some choice quotes:

"Instead, we were reminded of some hard truths about the man some of us thought might restore the soul of the country: He is a vastly better man and president than Donald Trump, but he's got a long, long record of getting foreign policy wrong."

"Look, Biden can still salvage something from this. But (and this is important) he's going to need to hear from more of his friends -the people who know how important it is for his presidency to succeed- that he's going to have do better."

The people who know how important it is for his presidency to succeed is an interesting phrase, full of all kinds of frightening implications.

Posted by: Intrepid Bulwark AoS Liaison at August 19, 2021 03:36 PM (pGIoM)

182 IT WORKED!
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (XvPQV)


That may, possibly, have been because I saw your comment.

And want dopamine.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 19, 2021 03:36 PM (mf5HN)

183 I don't want to be ruled.
I don't want to rule over anyone.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 19, 2021 03:20


This, not left-right or other distractions, is the fundamental difference. There are those who want to rule over others, and those who have no such desire.

Unfortunately, nurse, those who want to rule over us have a 100+ year head start.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2021 03:36 PM (a3Q+t)

184 What has changed is not the systems and their failings, but the ethical character of the people and culture. The left successfully cut god and all concept of absolute truth and virtue out of western civilization. Which is akin to plucking all the bones out of a man.


Perhaps it's a restatement of the above, but the problem is that the left elites don't rule for the good of society, but rather for their own social elevation. Even utter incompetents would do better than they have, provided their motivation was to benefit society.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2021 03:36 PM (ZsR3z)

185 @Breaking911

NEW: Former President Trump issues statement on Afghanistan

https://tinyurl.com/yg98tkfy

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (cF8AT)

186 152 To stop the depredations of the eunuchs, they must be slain and power seized from them. Someone will have to do it and others will have to help.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 03:29 PM (z5Vrg)
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And then we get Dong Zhuo.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 19, 2021 03:33 PM (LBiAf)

Dong did nothing wrong! But more seriously things could get very unstable and chaotic. We'd ideally like to see things stabilize more quickly than that.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (z5Vrg)

187 Excellent photoshop that encapsulates Biden's response to Afghanistan.

https://bit.ly/3z2dmBj

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (UW2ZS)

188 Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (cF8AT)

Are we charging the "refugees" for their transportation here?

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (04aPJ)

189 By the time Trump came along, he seemed to have soured on all that.

The Trump years opened his eyes, just like ours.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (KZzsI)

190 " I'm home! Where the hell is my roost pole? "

Posted by: The chicken at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (FrjjO)

191 The founding fathers made it absolutely clear: this system only has a chance of working if people are virtuous. If the people are not, it will eat its self as we are seeing, and implode into tyranny.

**

Them old white slave traders ain't know sh*t, yo. We doing it this way now! (cocks Hi-Point pistol)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Afghanistan's the same as Biden increasing insulin costs because Trump did it at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (bm04m)

192 There are farts from Hemorrhoidal sphincters that have more clout than Tom.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (1t5dY)

193 Quick, name a problem our ruling elite have solved in the past, I don't know, you pick the time frame.

Can't win wars against desert tribes.
We apparently have a CDC that prepares for pandemics only to be completely unprepared for pandemics.
Our national debt has ballooned.
Inflation is on the rise.

Some of this can be chalked up as part of the plan, other parts of simply a ruling class that did nothing of merit to earn said title.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (KbCG3)

194 One need only read 1 Samuel 8 to understand.

God granted us freedom. He gave us righteous rules to live under. He served as the King. He demanded loyalty and sacrifice and willing submission and in return we got to live in abundance under a righteous leader that ordained things that were best for us.

We demanded earthly rulers. We were warned of the ramifications of such a request. We persisted. He gave us what we requested.

Governance will never work in any fashion, because no man is fit to control and pass judgement over another. There are no good people. The natural state of people, absent a pure and righteous God, is that of the animal. It is to kill and rape and horde and conquer and subdue.

Men like George Washington understood this and walked away from power. They understood that even they could not be trusted with that power and control. But look at the US Senate or any other ruler of any other country and tell me that you see any man or woman that fears that they might misuse a power granted to them. They do not, the blood runs down their chin and they hunger for more.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (7F9te)

195 Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (cF8AT)


Tami, that's insane. Are they charging each refugee $2000 as well? Or is it on the house?

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (45fpk)

196 "very current scifi has future societies organized in ways that promote a sort of managerial/technocracy hegemony "

GCIII won't start again, time to reinstall or buy a less than 10 year old computer.

Posted by: DaveA at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (FhXTo)

197 What's remarkable is that it has taken so long for people to grasp this. The failures of the Kennedy "whiz kids" in Vietnam made all of this clear by the 1970s in "The Best and the Brightest" and the 1980s in "A Bright Shining Lie".

Posted by: radar at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (3Zp/H)

198 Yeah. Whatever happened to the President's Council on Physical Fitness?

*Pointing like Donald Sutherland*
"FAT SHAMER! BODY SHAMING!!!!"
--crayola haired wymyn's studies graduate
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021


***
Sorry, Don, but we need *more* body and fat shaming, not less. "Fat, fat, the water rat --"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (/XOcP)

199 @JerryDunleavy

State Dept's Overseas Security Advisory Council said Aug. 14: "Repatriation flights are not free, & passengers will be required to sign a promissory loan agreement & may not be eligible to renew their U.S. passports til the loan is repaid. Cost may be $2,000 or more per person."

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Geez! I wish I'd had the life boat concession on the Titanic!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 03:38 PM (d9FiS)

200 And at least half the Supreme Court, should be NON LAWYERS.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:33 PM (oHd/0)


Why? Non-lawyers aren't some special font of wisdom. The problem isn't lawyers on SCOTUS, it's that Congress is a giant committee and nothing good ever comes out of a large committee. SCOTUS is largely trying to triage the problems in society created by the decision of Congress to abrogate their responsibilities, the problems associated with trying to appease a majority that large on any legislation, and the creation of a gargantuan federal bureaucracy.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:38 PM (jOcSX)

201
Could a US president demand everyone go on a diet and get a certain amount of exercise a day?
Posted by: 18-1


Back in the early days of Republicans pretending to sue to stop obamacare, we had the "Broccoli" argument.

"Can the govt force us to eat broccoli?" was the big legal question of the day.

Posted by: Soothsayer is a Movie Critic, Now! at August 19, 2021 03:38 PM (f9z5j)

202
Somehow I doubt Biden's team can dissappear the survivors of this debacle and the loved-ones of those who have or will be killed in the coming weeks. Too many.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (bDqIh)

I think some of these families will, without a doubt, go public and condemn our clownish government and its wholly inadequate drawdown in A-stan.

But, I bet it'll only be a handful who even say a peep... you've gotta figure most of these people are there serving the Party's military/corporate/political interests, and won't go against The Family, even for their blood relatives.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2021 03:38 PM (rZA2o)

203 So I saw that somebody in the Biden Junta bragged that they got 300 Americans out in 24 hours (I'm sure about 2400 7th century savages too). That means the once great hyper power could get 2100 Americans out a week. Assuming a mere 10K Americans that is only about 5 weeks.

Heck of a job Joepedo!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 19, 2021 03:38 PM (w5raC)

204 Bitter Clinger - exactly.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2021 03:38 PM (45fpk)

205 Are we charging the "refugees" for their transportation here?

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (04aPJ)

hahahahahahahaha!

You funny Jordan!

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 03:38 PM (cF8AT)

206 This fit brunette in a barely-there bikini, white sneakers and a jean jacket read this essay agrees that the managerial class is entirely bankrupt and is a dead system walking:
https://is.gd/1idVuL

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (3p5uk)

207 @181: "The people who know how important it is for his presidency to succeed is an interesting phrase, full of all kinds of frightening implications."

One sad aspect of Never Trumpism is that they didn't need to deify and exalt Biden. It would have been fine to simply say he was good enough so long as his presidency wasn't a failure. All of this "restoring the soul of our nation" nonsense was always doomed to fall short.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (+WWsf)

208 The repudiation of this managerial class is going to happen very quickly, once the smoke turns into flames.
And smoke is rising in many, many places.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (ufFY8)

209 You have to wonder: Will the technocrat collapse in Afghanistan lead to a similar collapse around the world? Can BigTech prevail here, in America, after failing to rule successfully there?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (otCYC)

210 It's not what you know it's who you know.

It's been that way forever.
Posted by: Just a side note

And who you blow.

Posted by: Kumswalah Hair-Ass at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (WmGrA)

211 I have trouble seeing this as a turning point. People have realized for decades that we're ruled by mediocre middle managers, but that hasn't done anything to stem the tide.

Posted by: Broseidon at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (7gUlF)

212 So, let me get this straight. We are going to charge Americans for getting them out of Afghanistan when they have to leave due to our failed policies.

But illegals get sent all over the US, on the Taxpayers dime.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (oHd/0)

213 Yeah. Whatever happened to the President's Council on Physical Fitness?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM


Got achievement patches from them in elementary school.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (a3Q+t)

214 Are we charging the "refugees" for their transportation here?
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 19, 2021 03:37 PM (04aPJ)
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Yup. And you and I - and every other taxpayer and bold holder - is paying for it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (3p5uk)

215 I'm dubious about anyone currently labeled as "professional managerial class" or whatever. They're certainly not "management material." And definitely not leadership material either. Low IQ kids indeed.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (BFigT)

216 Babylon Bee: "Pfizer+" Monthly Booster Subscription Program Announced

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (xPl2J)

217 Perhaps it's a restatement of the above, but the problem is that the left elites don't rule for the good of society, but rather for their own social elevation.

The reason they do so is because they have nothing else. When you strip away the transcendent, when you reject the idea that we owe homage and respect to something else other than one's self, all that's left is yourself

If something else is not your word, then you will be.

For monarchies, that something else is the monarchy, the king. Honor becomes the greatest virtue. With religion God becomes that, and faith the greatest virtue.

Without any of that, self is the greatest thing in the world and personal happiness, comfort, and joy is the greatest virtue.

And the greatest virtue sanctifies anything you do to achieve that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (KZzsI)

218 49 boobs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:19 PM (XvPQV)

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I don't get it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (kTF2Z)

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Boobs are wisdom.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (pO/cl)

219 My next-door neighbor has an unhealthy obsession with her lawn mower. Cuts the grass three times a week, whether it needs it or not.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (Xrfse)

220 Easy to hide in a large committee, and just reap the benefits...the story of DC, Colorado Alex....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (6Je/Q)

221 Here's a fact check of Biden's frequent claim that the Afghani military had 300,000 members. Turns out, that number was happy bullshit.

Apparently it was more like 118,628 in April 2021.

https://bit.ly/3D419OU

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (UW2ZS)

222 We don't need a constitutional amendment. We need courage from a nation of people who have become all to content to complain rather then take action. Liberals didn't bring our nation to this point for any reason other then they pursued it with vigor. They also knew their adversary was lazy and obsequious to the state and their corporatist liege. There should be a great awakening in our country and anyone not committed to mutually pledge their lives, fortunes and sacred honor to the cause should get out of the way. Because the time to act is now.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (VpIIl)

223 Also, hey, we have to get victory somewhere, right?
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (mf5HN)

Victory Tits will be verboten on OnlyFans!

Posted by: kbdabear at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (qAR6u)

224 206 This fit brunette in a barely-there bikini, white sneakers and a jean jacket read this essay agrees that the managerial class is entirely bankrupt and is a dead system walking:
https://is.gd/1idVuL
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (3p5uk)

LOL, LUV the old guy in the background checkin her out!

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (oHd/0)

225 My next-door neighbor has an unhealthy obsession with her lawn mower. Cuts the grass three times a week, whether it needs it or not.

**

We've got one of those neighbors. He can't stand being around his family, and that's his out.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) Afghanistan's the same as Biden increasing insulin costs because Trump did it at August 19, 2021 03:41 PM (/BX3R)

226 US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the mission in Afghanistan has been a success.

I got this sweet job and an even better no show one lined up after it. I mean...does it get any better?
Posted by: Antony Blinken

You know, this asshole Blinken says this shit, and there are a good number of total fools who will believe it, because Blinken said it.
It's demonstrably false in toto, but this just shows how decayed this is.
I actually can't believe Blinken believes it, but just saying it is supposed to be some magical incantation to make the people believe it.
Political statements are now on the level of just simple minded "new and improved" advertising.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 19, 2021 03:41 PM (vcOmj)

227 I mean these people still believe in the "moral arc of history", a piece of astounding disintellect that should have been completely obliterated by the first half of the 20th century.

Posted by: Broseidon at August 19, 2021 03:41 PM (7gUlF)

228 Not to rain on anyone's parade but the failure in Afghanistan isn't going to change anything.

The people that care already oppose the junta, and the majority that don't care well...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 03:41 PM (DpkTQ)

229 I don't disagree with a word of it.

But color me unconvinced that the managerial class and the 40% of the idiots in the public who listen to the managerial class' megaphone wielding media and have no fucking clue that it's all a sham, a house of cards.

I'm absolutely 100% all in on turning them all out into the streets to be tarred and feathered. Let me know when we're getting even remotely close.

Posted by: deadrody at August 19, 2021 03:41 PM (V9901)

230 Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (VpIIl)

We need to throw out all of the clearly unConstitutional shit the Supremes have forced on us over the last 150 years.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:41 PM (oHd/0)

231 I have trouble seeing this as a turning point. People have realized for decades that we're ruled by mediocre middle managers, but that hasn't done anything to stem the tide.
Posted by: Broseidon at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (7gUlF)


It's always like that. Things go on, getting more and more fragile, until a shock that in the past wouldn't have registered instead collapses the whole thing. We've known for decades, but there was enough prosperity and success that we muddled along and let them continue. That success is no longer the case.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:41 PM (jOcSX)

232 165 'Who moved my cheese' is one page worth of content, about dealing with change, stretched out into an excessive advance and book deal.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (XvPQV)

I worked at a large high tech company that was looking to outsource us IT workers. The HR department handed each of us a copy of that book. Needless to say, that stunt went over as well as a fart in church.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 19, 2021 03:41 PM (N39Ws)

233 And btw, who's vetting who gets to the airport? Yeah, the Taliban...

Posted by: pahound at August 19, 2021 03:41 PM (12ct+)

234 Presidential elections should be decided in the Thuderdome.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (UuD2k)



You keep what you kill.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (yQpMk)

235 And then we get Dong Zhuo.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 19, 2021 03:33 PM (LBiAf)

That's Long Dong Zhou to all you eunuchs out there!

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (trdmm)

236 7 I feel like 2000-2016 was America ceding control to the managerial class and seeing how they did with the keys to the country.

Then the country took the keys back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 19, 2021 03:13 PM (LvTSG)

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The "smart set" hated it that Trump and Trump's base were doing so well without them.

Posted by: Seems Legit at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (Yoy2t)

237 My next-door neighbor has an unhealthy obsession with her lawn mower. Cuts the grass three times a week, whether it needs it or not.

Does the seat bounce up and down like a horse while she rides it?

Posted by: Just Asking at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (DpkTQ)

238 "Apparently it was more like 118,628 in April 2021.

https://bit.ly/3D419OU

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (UW2ZS) "

That number is also bullshit. It's been estimated by people who know this stuff there were probably about 60K they could bring to the fight.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (VpIIl)

239 Yup. And you and I - and every other taxpayer and bold holder - is paying for it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (3p5uk)


My local news said yesterday they are going to welcome them here and help them "access services." So that's nice.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (04aPJ)

240 I saw Hemorrhoidal Sphincters open for GWAR in 92. They stunk up the place.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (kTF2Z)

241 OT but maybe not:

stimmys galore, free rent and a boost to EBT, but if you want to get out of Afghan-hell, it will cost you $2,000 plus. Good news is you can take out a loan and but you may lose your passport till loan is repaid. As per State Dept's Overseas Security Advisory Council via thejcoop on twittter.

Posted by: vyx at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (Q0kyv)

242 Meritocracies are fragile. As soon as someone gets in, he starts trying to set the system so his children are in as well. And any system of honest evaluations eventually becomes "gamed" once everyone knows how they will be evaluated.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:27 PM (jOcSX)

Shut up.

Posted by: Harvard, Yale, etc. at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (uhPTO)

243 Not to rain on anyone's parade but the failure in Afghanistan isn't going to change anything.

The people that care already oppose the junta, and the majority that don't care well...
Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 03:41 PM (DpkTQ)
++++
It will unlikely be the thing that crashes the world down around their (and our) ears - but it may well be the trigger that precipitates more disaster in shorter periods of time and blows everything to pieces.

The Berlin Wall wasn't the end of the Soviet Union. That took two more years. But it was a major inflection point.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (3p5uk)

244 Today is a shit show. Gimme dopamine.

https://tinyurl.com/4aa6vzvs

Also, hey, we have to get victory somewhere, right?
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (mf5HN)


Impressive engineering.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (jOcSX)

245 You cannot run a nation or a kingdom or a people by God's rules. Not unless you can expect an interventionist miracle every time neighboring assholes get spunky. And God is not Santa Claws. He does not intervene more than HE wants to.

This is the Earth, enemy occupied territory ruled by Satan. The United States 1776-2020 was the best shot at self government and respect for the individual. But it, like every other form of government, fails and falls eventually.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, my philosophy and my theology is to trust in God but buy ammo.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (XvPQV)

246 don't get it.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2021 03:20 PM (kTF2Z)

He wants ace to do a boobie thread.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (ai5jE)

247 All of this "restoring the soul of our nation" nonsense was always doomed to fall short.

Sure, they oversold Biden just like they oversold Trump's alleged failings. Because they had to, they couldn't make the argument without doing so.

Just saying "I don't care for the man Trump is, and Biden is awful but at least it gets that icky guy out office" convinces no one. Saying TRUMP IS THE GREATEST EVIL EVER AND DADDY BIDEN WILL SAVE US ALL FROM HIS ENDLESS LOVECRAFTIAN HORROR might. At least, it justifies their level of spew and the money spent.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (KZzsI)

248 One unforgivable and unforgettable thing we must remind our Democrat friends is that Biden and his administration created the Taliban army and air force by leaving at least 2,000 US vehicles, between 30 and 40 aircraft and numerous weaponry.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (NpAcC)

249 Hey you guys! Could ya keep it down? I'm trying to watch Batman 22 over here. Gonna watch Star Wars 48 next. K thanks.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (Vxu+H)

250 234 Presidential elections should be decided in the Thuderdome.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 19, 2021 03:35 PM (UuD2k)


You keep what you kill.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (yQpMk)

So, Wakanda?

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (oHd/0)

251 The Beria enema.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (UHVv4)

252 a fart in church.

No worries, I don't attend.

Posted by: Eric S. (D-CA) at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (a3Q+t)

253 Dogs are amazing. So are High Trust Societies.

https://mobile.twitter.com/humorandanimals/
status/1428361510321987589

@humorandanimals
this intelligent dog travels down to the market every day with a basket and some money to fetch groceries for their owner

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (8akOE)

254 We need to throw out all of the clearly unConstitutional shit the Supremes have forced on us over the last 150 years.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021


***
Mister, we could use a man like Roger B. Taney again. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (/XOcP)

255 NeverTrump are the last investors in a ponzi scheme desperately trying to get conservatives to make one more payment.
They know everyone above them-- Democrats and the left-- have cashed out.

They want to sucker you into making one more investment in the existing order so they can cash out too.
Johnaa and Tommy today, with their, "I'm disappointed in the base" have moved from selling the positive (normalcy, principles, etc.) to coercion. Aka, the stink of desperation.

Posted by: Mrm88 at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (jIL4c)

256 The fact that Tom Nichols is employed by the Naval War College tells you all you need to know about the state of our armed forces.

Posted by: New Guy at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (m/BI6)

257 Today is a shit show. Gimme dopamine.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (mf5HN)

I looked.
Dopamine++

Posted by: reason at August 19, 2021 03:44 PM (+Q7pl)

258 Do you know who's teaching your kids?

https://bit.ly/3CXGhsF

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:44 PM (UW2ZS)

259 Just like the dolts telling us to do exactly what we did before with covid will fix delta covid.

Ah, no. Obviously, it won't.

Posted by: Seems Legit at August 19, 2021 03:44 PM (Yoy2t)

260 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:43 PM (XvPQV)

God has a habit of not only testing people, to destruction, but also punishing them if they fail.

We are in a Testing period... IMO.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:44 PM (oHd/0)

261 Pay your taxes! 100's of thousands of Afghanis are depending on it!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 19, 2021 03:44 PM (rmsWT)

262 on the just wanting the normal life, is that too much to ask?

It required sacrifice and war to get to our relatively safe environment when "normies" could live their normal life, contributing via their professions, enjoying the fruit of their labor.

BUT "a republic, if you can keep it" means there is another requirement for liberty. There has to be a constant "vanguard", perhaps like the armed militias of their day, but today it is other forms of action ... community groups that uphold American tradition, sort of the opposite of the Antifa crowd (FBI backed) . that are ready to take action as needed.

The federal government has been subsumed by the globalists, and are enacting their agenda. States and local "militias" need to rise up against the feds that are calling us terrorists for not bowing.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2021 03:44 PM (Cus5s)

263 There is also the triumph of the feminist movement, which had ended the mixing of social classes and stratified them (girls want to marry up not down), paving the way for the creation of a permanent entitled gentry class that is becoming as rigid as pre-revolutionary France.

Posted by: WillowViney at August 19, 2021 03:45 PM (d3MA1)

264 but you may lose your passport till loan is repaid.

Like you'd want to leave the lower 48 ever again after this?

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at August 19, 2021 03:45 PM (R6K9J)

265 This is why I don't celebrate Trump or love the guy. He's not worthy to tie George Washington's boot laces, let alone run this country.

But he's the best we can do in our times. Let that sink in: this is the best we have now. Donald Freaking Trump.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:45 PM (KZzsI)

266 In its current end-stage metastatic formulation, the professional managerial class has demonstrated that it is second to none in the art of fouling everything up catastrophically.

Let this serve as a reminder that the Biden Administration has been in office for just 211 days.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:45 PM (3p5uk)

267 I think one shift has been that "virtue signaling" is nothing new, but the intended audience has changed. The elites have always wanted to signal their virtue - use that word as a stand-in for "right to rule" - but used to want to project it to people lower in status. A room full of men in buttoned down shirts with pocket protectors in a control room somewhere in NASA - to assure the rubes that smart, competent people are in charge. You need not worry.

The modern virtue signaling, of course, is to those within ones perceived social class. Wine mons VS to other wine moms.

Posted by: Broseidon at August 19, 2021 03:45 PM (7gUlF)

268 Impressive engineering.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (jOcSX)



One word: Carbon Fiber.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 03:45 PM (yQpMk)

269 My next-door neighbor has an unhealthy obsession with her lawn mower. Cuts the grass three times a week, whether it needs it or not.

We're available.

Posted by: Harley-Davidson at August 19, 2021 03:45 PM (a3Q+t)

270 I enjoy the sneering in that last tweet, from one managerial clown cluster (BBC) to another (Biden's Boys), without a whiff of self-awareness.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at August 19, 2021 03:46 PM (uhPTO)

271 219 My next-door neighbor has an unhealthy obsession with her lawn mower. Cuts the grass three times a week, whether it needs it or not.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM (Xrfse)

__

The vibration does things for her maybe? IYKWIMAITYD

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 19, 2021 03:46 PM (GQ5VU)

272 LOL, LUV the old guy in the background checkin her out!
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:40 PM

I never notice those details.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 19, 2021 03:46 PM (NOuS6)

273 State Dept's Overseas Security Advisory Council said Aug. 14: "Repatriation flights are not free, & passengers will be required to sign a promissory loan agreement & may not be eligible to renew their U.S. passports til the loan is repaid. Cost may be $2,000 or more per person."

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And for the aisle seat next to the lavatory I hear $2500. Do I hear $2600? $2600? Thank you, madam. Going for $2600. Going once going twice. And the gentleman bid $2750

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 03:46 PM (d9FiS)

274 God has a habit of not only testing people, to destruction, but also punishing them if they fail.

We are in a Testing period... IMO.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 19, 2021 03:44 PM (oHd/0)

Yeah and I'm grumpy about that. But the gamble is to trust and have faith.

My concern is, nations don't get 'tested' like this for long. They either fix their shit or they fall. And we are just about out of time to fix this shit.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:47 PM (XvPQV)

275
State Dept's Overseas Security Advisory Council said Aug. 14: "Repatriation flights are not free, & passengers will be required to sign a promissory loan agreement & may not be eligible to renew their U.S. passports til the loan is repaid. Cost may be $2,000 or more per person."
https://tinyurl.com/ye9tn5ms
Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (cF8AT)

Hope all the NGO millenials that signed up to bring clean water and shoes to children in Afghanistan remember this little adventure. IF they get out .

Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2021 03:47 PM (5HZN2)

276 I still think breakup of the US into separate nations is the only possible non-bloody path out. And even that seems unlikely, with the level of hatred the left has for us.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 19, 2021 03:47 PM (8548M)

277 on the just wanting the normal life, is that too much to ask?


All you have to do to have the normal life is take an injection every six months for the rest of your life, get a digital passport that tracks your ever movement, give up your private property and possessions, move to a 600 square foot tiny house, live on $12,000 a year, never reproduce and accept having sexual encounters only with the same sex.

-Your Betters

Posted by: vyx at August 19, 2021 03:47 PM (Q0kyv)

278 You can't have a serious SecState named "Blinken". Serious SecStates have names like "Hull" or "Marshall" or "Schultz".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 19, 2021 03:47 PM (LBiAf)

279
But he's the best we can do in our times. Let that sink in: this is the best we have now. Donald Freaking Trump.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:45 PM (KZzsI)

You sell Trump short. Whatever his personal shortcomings--Washington had some of his own--he was on point on the things that matter most.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:47 PM (mR6Gs)

280 "It was a mostly gentle and friendly gang-raping by these Taliban gentleman."
--Clarissa Ward, in the near future.

Posted by: Tasty Burger at August 19, 2021 03:47 PM (5DHVq)

281 165 'Who moved my cheese' is one page worth of content, about dealing with change, stretched out into an excessive advance and book deal.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:34 PM (XvPQV)

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Heh, we were required to read that at the software startup I worked for back in the early 2000s.

Somebody subsequently came out with a funny parody entitled "Who Cut the Cheese?"

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (KLuIa)

282 265 This is why I don't celebrate Trump or love the guy. He's not worthy to tie George Washington's boot laces, let alone run this country.

But he's the best we can do in our times. Let that sink in: this is the best we have now. Donald Freaking Trump.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:45 PM (KZzsI)

He loves his country and has a sense of duty to it. More than that he's a capable executive with good strategic instinct.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (z5Vrg)

283 "We know that we are the children of God and that the whole world is under control of the evil one. We know also that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true. And we are in him who is true by being in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life."

John 5:19-20

Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (VpIIl)

284 These are, to put it mildly, bad times.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:28 PM (KZzsI)

I think that good will win out - but as Dr. McCoy once said, experience tells us that Evil wins unless Good is very very good.

I think there will be a righting arm here. The left can't manage large and very complex situations. They could not manage the departure of Afghanistan, for God's sake, a third world hell hole where their opponent were basically illiterate opium drug loads with 1980's soviet weapons...

America will prevail, it has for some time now and a lot of us have been born with the founders' Republic idea pressed into our DNA - its going to take a lot more than some former hippy dippy Harvard University/Oxford Rhode Scholar Poli-Sci major residing in a dysfunctional WH that probably bathes once a week and reads Carl Jung's Red Letters at night to his kids as a bed time story to rule over 330M red-blooded patriotic Americans.

Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (5iUNf)

285 16 Look carefully, and you will see that all the real political disagreements today are between defenders of the Professional Managerial Class' right-to-rule -- NeverTrumpers and the liberal establishment, all so very proud of their degrees and comfortable upper-middle-class Class Mores --and those who believe the Professional Managerial Class is obscenely unqualified to rule, and meets each new failure with arrogance that the Serfs Just Don't Understand How Hard It Is To Rule.
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Yes. It is about right to rule. They think they have it, and will do anything to enforce it against those who have no right to rule. This will work right until it doesn't, and then there's a revolution.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:15 PM (3p5uk)

Slowly at first... then all at once...

Posted by: Inogame at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (53oGX)

286 The American Academy of Pediatrics has lost the plot:

Natural breastfeeding increases "reliance on/interest in complementary and alternative medicine, skepticism of institutional authority, and a strong commitment and interest in health knowledge, autonomy, and healthy living practices."

https://bit.ly/3z3BByY

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (UW2ZS)

287 My next-door neighbor has an unhealthy obsession with her lawn mower. Cuts the grass three times a week, whether it needs it or not.
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It's a ride-on, isn't it?

Seat go BRRRRRR.

Posted by: reason at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (+Q7pl)

288 They are going to Reset Us like Tartaria in the early 1800s.
We have been lied to about everything. History is the building up and destroying of civilizations by the same Controllers in our Realm.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (8akOE)

289 *211 I have trouble seeing this as a turning point. People have realized for decades that we're ruled by mediocre middle managers, but that hasn't done anything to stem the tide.

Exactly. Something would have to come between the managers and their power for aything to change.

Posted by: pashmr at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (LQgJ8)

290 Impressive engineering.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (jOcSX)


My brassieres use technology more commonly used to support the ceilings in medieval churches.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (mf5HN)

291 O.K. So now Governor Murphy at his 23 room villa in Italy has decided that all teachers need to get the vax. He will decide later about business owners and other groups of people. He's just concentrating on the most vulnerable groups first-because of course, school teachers have been so very vulnerable during the Covid scare-spending so much time on remote learning/s.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (ai5jE)

292 "It's time to turn them all out into the streets."

?

Posted by: For gp, The Action IS The Juice at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (qpX6U)

293 278 You can't have a serious SecState named "Blinken". Serious SecStates have names like "Hull" or "Marshall" or "Schultz".
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 19, 2021 03:47 PM (LBiAf

=====

A good Old Country name like Pompeo works too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (pO/cl)

294 Made a Bloody Mary with a new spice blend I found locally. Wasn't bad at all so I took the drink outside and settled in with a cig, took another few sips and thought.. something isn't right here. I forgot the vodka.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (nxdel)

295 "Pay your taxes! 100's of thousands of Afghanis are depending on it!"

BigCorp profit margins are depending on it. (nothing we "gave" to the Afghans came cheap ... top dollar, bonuses, missing billions ... all we got was their opiates)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (Cus5s)

296 In a culture where everyone is so self-obsessed that counselors have gone from "here's how you can make yourself better by changing what's wrong" to "here's how everyone else needs to change and the words to use to fix them"... nobody is gonna change jack in power.

All they will do is try to get some of that power for themselves, like being the Karen that turns in the neighbors for not masking up.

Unless the problems directly, tangibly, and specifically harm peoples sense of well being, comfort, happiness, and chances of getting laid, nobody is gonna do jack.

Afghanistan? Yeah, that's real sad, but hey, not my horses, not my race. But don't touch my streaming service.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (KZzsI)

297 Ninevah repented in 3 days, or less ( Jonah). God spared them. 3 days. Or less. Our clock has been ticking a little bit longer than that...

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2021 03:49 PM (6Je/Q)

298 Maybe making Americans pay for evacuation is a Biden and Son enterprise

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2021 03:49 PM (znIQ9)

299 Natural breastfeeding increases "reliance on/interest in complementary and alternative medicine, skepticism of institutional authority, and a strong commitment and interest in health knowledge, autonomy, and healthy living practices."

https://bit.ly/3z3BByY
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (UW2ZS)
++++
Aren't those good things, generally speaking?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:49 PM (3p5uk)

300 I've said it here before, but again: a study of the book of Judges has a lot to offer. There's a phrase in the book that gets repeated, something like, "There was no king in Israel in those days, and every man did what seemed best to him."

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 19, 2021 03:50 PM (8548M)

301 >>>Posted by: Intrepid Bulwark AoS Liaison at August 19, 2021 03:36 PM (pGIoM)



thanks for the quotes. I have some quotes about NeverTrumpers for the quick hits thread. I wanted to go over to The Bulwark and see what those paid Democrat shills are saying. Thanks for giving me a start.

Posted by: ace at August 19, 2021 03:50 PM (0G13K)

302 "How does someone like Kevin Clinesmith become an untouchable member of the ruling class?"

He's not. He's a henchman who needs to be protected. Otherwise the supply of henchmen will dry up.

Posted by: ronalds545 at August 19, 2021 03:50 PM (iAr2t)

303 This fit brunette in a barely-there bikini, white sneakers and a jean jacket read this essay agrees that the managerial class is entirely bankrupt and is a dead system walking:
https://is.gd/1idVuL
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (3p5uk)


She's my type.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:50 PM (XvPQV)

304 something isn't right here. I forgot the vodka.

Tastes better that way anyhow.

He loves his country and has a sense of duty to it. More than that he's a capable executive with good strategic instinct.

Sure, I admire that about him. He's pretty good. I'd consider him a fine person to run a business in better times. But I would never, ever consider him worthy of the job of leading the free world, unless there was just nobody better to take his place.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:50 PM (KZzsI)

305 But he's the best we can do in our times. Let that sink in: this is the best we have now. Donald Freaking Trump.

The Mean Tweets didn't set well with you?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 19, 2021 03:51 PM (Xrfse)

306 Afternoon.

Wow, that piece was excellent!

So the obvious question that needs to be asked, what replaces the managerial class?

Posted by: Robert - 15 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 19, 2021 03:51 PM (1Yy3c)

307 State Dept's Overseas Security Advisory Council said Aug. 14: "Repatriation flights are not free, & passengers will be required to sign a promissory loan agreement & may not be eligible to renew their U.S. passports til the loan is repaid. Cost may be $2,000 or more per person."
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Just re-watched "Casablanca" a couple of days ago. This is reminiscent of the scene in Rick's where desperate people are trying to wangle a way out of town.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 19, 2021 03:51 PM (LBiAf)

308 Yes. And this will be a problem well into the future, likely for generations. Science as such - that is, the scientific method and empirical fact discovered and test through continuous attempts at invalidation - is hugely valuable and leads to tremendous advancement. And it's dead, and people's trust in it is dead. It isn't dead because it's wrong - it isn't - but because the people championing it were lying and subverting it. That is going set us back for a very long time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:23 PM (3p5uk)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Meh. There are still people doing legit science. And the actual advancement from the real science those people do will still occur. It's the wasted resources paying fake scientists to do fake science that is the real tragedy. Imagine what you could actually DO with the billions wasted on cLiMaTe cHaNgE!!!

Posted by: deadrody at August 19, 2021 03:51 PM (V9901)

309 ... "Look, Biden can still salvage something from this. But (and this is important) he's going to need to hear from more of his friends -the people who know how important it is for his presidency to succeed- that he's going to have do better." ...
Posted by: Intrepid Bulwark AoS Liaison at August 19, 2021 03:36 PM (pGIoM)
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He's neither a midwit nor a dimwit. He's a fully-blown fuckwit.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:51 PM (3p5uk)

310 That article is crap, mostly a grift. It takes one blinding glimpse of the obvious - the fact that the managerial class is inept, and we all know it - and lards it up with pseudo history. But as soon as he cited Carl Schmidt, I expected that.

Look, actually drawing historical parallels is harder than that. You have to look at two (or more) sets of particulars, and logically test how they are alike. And don't forget how they are unlike. He uses "legitimacy" rather vaguely, in a way that has a little sense for Marxists (not a lot), and almost none for kings. Frankly, people should just stay away from kingship on topics like this, it varied too much.

It's all special pleading, or "lumping" as J H Hexter put it. And it's worthless.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (7X3UV)

311 I'm beginning to suspect ace is just reading the comments for blog posts.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 03:12 PM (z5Vrg)

Heh!

The blog is just an excuse for the comments section.

Posted by: Robert - 15 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (1Yy3c)

312 I figured that the 2020 candidate would demonstrate willingness to be Trump-like, but not understand the appeal. Answers that kill the ego will be q mystery forever.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (Y9Pdm)

313 Ninevah repented in 3 days, or less ( Jonah). God spared them. 3 days. Or less. Our clock has been ticking a little bit longer than that.../i]

God gave the various clans in Israel about 400 years to get better, before He sent His people in to clean house. He gave Israel centuries to get better, sending prophet after prophet to them to warn them. Sometimes He is incredibly patient.

I am pretty sure His patience has worn out with us.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (KZzsI)

314 O.K. So now Governor Murphy at his 23 room villa in Italy has decided that all teachers need to get the vax. He will decide later about business owners and other groups of people. He's just concentrating on the most vulnerable groups first-because of course, school teachers have been so very vulnerable during the Covid scare-spending so much time on remote learning/s.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (ai5jE)

The Teacher's Union in NJ is the most powerful political force in the state. I can't believe he's forcing them to get the vax.

They will NOT like this.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (mR6Gs)

315 But this has been a problem for ages. Show me someone who desperately wants to be in charge, and I'll show you someone who unequivocally shouldn't be.

There is Modern Cincinnatus

Posted by: Broseidon at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (7gUlF)

316 139 I was at Microsoft then. They absolutely had usability studies.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:32 PM (UW2ZS)


I've used plenty of sub-optimal user interfaces over the decade with varying levels of annoyance. Windows 8 had the only UI that I found literally enraging.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (DTX3h)

317 Imagine what you could actually DO with the billions wasted on cLiMaTe cHaNgE!!!

One thing I've pointed out to LIVs is that we spent more money on COVID lockdowns then we did on winning WWII.

With all those trillions of dollars - which your kids will pay for - what more serious problems do you think we could have solved?

Posted by: Just Asking at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (DpkTQ)

318 109 How does someone like Kevin Clinesmith become an untouchable member of the ruling class?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August

Because the government won't voluntarily give one of their peons to us, who they regard as worse than a peon.

Posted by: clutch at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (9UmRs)

319 Well they were competent enough to put the dementia patient as the figurehead of incompetence. They can fvck up for quite some behind the scenes as long as they have a puppet of their choosing out front to take the blame.

Posted by: JROD at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (0jZnq)

320 Well, once we have vaccine passports and medicare for all, the government will be free to demand you do anything in the name of public health.

Outlaw guns, cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, meat. Mandate exercise. It is for public health and keeping costs down. Plus you will be healthier!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 03:53 PM (OoCxN)

321 My brassieres use technology more commonly used to support the ceilings in medieval churches.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (mf5HN)

Slave labor? That's hot. And totally not unexpected.

Posted by: flounder at August 19, 2021 03:53 PM (KnJdm)

322 Meh. There are still people doing legit science. And the actual advancement from the real science those people do will still occur. It's the wasted resources paying fake scientists to do fake science that is the real tragedy. Imagine what you could actually DO with the billions wasted on cLiMaTe cHaNgE!!!
Posted by: deadrody at August 19, 2021 03:51 PM (V9901)
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There is a serious PR problem now, and that will have consequences. There's no trust in scientific research and progress anymore, because the people most vocal have been the least honest. They are also perverting the next generation of scientists and engineers, which will make them incompetent and that will be very bad.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:53 PM (3p5uk)

323 300 I've said it here before, but again: a study of the book of Judges has a lot to offer. There's a phrase in the book that gets repeated, something like, "There was no king in Israel in those days, and every man did what seemed best to him."
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 19, 2021 03:50 PM (8548M)

Good point.. the stiff necked people would periodically go their own way, and got afflicted until they rpented and got their shit together. Then... they'd do it again... I wonder if God will be that patient with us???

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2021 03:53 PM (6Je/Q)

324 She's my type.

Still breathing?

Posted by: Blanco Basura -(SchxB)- moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 19, 2021 03:53 PM (SchxB)

325 She's my type.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:50 PM (XvPQV)



Mine too, breathing.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 03:53 PM (yQpMk)

326 Aiding and abetting the Managerial Class is the Modern Media Brigade. Its members wanted to be a Jake Sullivan or a Madeleine Albright, but they failed to make the cut in high school or as freshmen or sophomores in college. i.e., losers.

Posted by: Gref at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (AMIL/)

327 321 My brassieres use technology more commonly used to support the ceilings in medieval churches.

Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics at August 19, 2021 03:48 PM (mf5HN)

Slave labor? That's hot. And totally not unexpected.
Posted by: flounder at August 19, 2021 03:53 PM (KnJdm)

Flying boobstresses.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (II3Gr)

328 That was an excellent read, Ace, thanks for pointing me to it. It also meshes precisely with a major theme around this miserable joint, the utter fecklessness of the puffed-up grandees who claim the pedigree and qualification to rule over the rest of us.

I think this business of unaccountable people like Fauci, Hildabeast, Gorelick, Comey, et al. doing spectacular damage and then just walking away scot free is going to turn. I hope to be around to see it. All those lampposts aren't going to decorate themselves, you know.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (guGkK)

329 Jinx!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (yQpMk)

330 The Mean Tweets didn't set well with you?

Meh. Its a cheap easy crack but has no meat to it. Surely you can do better than that.

You know what I mean. He's a small man compared to the great men we've had in the past in office. He just looks big in a land full of midgets these days.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (KZzsI)

331 She makes me feel funny in head, and in my pants:

https://bit.ly/2W3AocO

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (ufFY8)

332 I often wonder is resurrecting Trump will breath new life into his adversaries or renew our spirit? Has there been enough to prove Trump right, and the Democrats as liars, destroyers and despots? Is that enough to move beyond what people perceived as Trump's transgressions or will people actually realize the good he has done?

It's vexing, but one must give consideration to the evil leviathan Democrats have built through their unholy alliance with the media. That is an extremely powerful force we will need to compete with irrespective. I am not certain what a new, fresh face will bring and their are a lot of unknowns with that as well. What I do know is we need to win and whomever will best carry that flag and standard should be our choice.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (VpIIl)

333 Well, once we have vaccine passports and medicare for all, the government will be free to demand you do anything in the name of public health.

Outlaw guns, cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, meat. Mandate exercise. It is for public health and keeping costs down. Plus you will be healthier!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy is a great start, but there is so much more to be done! at August 19, 2021 03:53 PM (OoCxN)

Best public health benefit long term is achieved by eliminating commies.

Posted by: flounder at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (KnJdm)

334 317 With all those trillions of dollars - which your kids will pay for - what more serious problems do you think we could have solved?
Posted by: Just Asking at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (DpkTQ)

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Trick question. The answer is none.

Governments don't fix things.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (pO/cl)

335 This is why I don't celebrate Trump or love the guy. He's not worthy to tie George Washington's boot laces, let alone run this country.

But he's the best we can do in our times. Let that sink in: this is the best we have now. Donald Freaking Trump.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

There's a lot of truth in that.
Donald J. (Freaking) Trump is a pretty flawed vessel, but when you look at the alternatives.... (eyeroll).
I sent him a lot of money (for my financial status) in 2016, because I was TERRIFIED of Hillary Clinton becoming President. And now we have this idiot Biden.
Yeah, this country is screwed.....bigtime. And Top. Men. have made it possible. From the best schools.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (vcOmj)

336

I love the Horde Mind.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (XvPQV)

337 Sure, I admire that about him. He's pretty good. I'd consider him a fine person to run a business in better times. But I would never, ever consider him worthy of the job of leading the free world, unless there was just nobody better to take his place.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:50 PM (KZzsI)

Apparently you weren't impressed the the Abraham accords, or putting Nato in it's place and getting countries to contribute more money or getting Rocket Man to stop firing missiles.

Ok. I guess you have high standards.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (5HZN2)

338 She's my type.

A wooden mattress with wheels?

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (R6K9J)

339 That article is crap, mostly a grift. It takes one blinding glimpse of the obvious - the fact that the managerial class is inept, and we all know it - and lards it up with pseudo history. But as soon as he cited Carl Schmidt, I expected that.

No one said this essay is the be-all and end-all of everything. He doesn't "settle" anything once and for all. It' just one guy's take and I find his general outline to be food for thought.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (mR6Gs)

340 I've used plenty of sub-optimal user interfaces over the decade with varying levels of annoyance. Windows 8 had the only UI that I found literally enraging.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (DTX3h)
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Your problem was using it on a computer. On a touch screen, the interface made some degree of sense and was fairly intuitive. They utterly sacrificed intuitiveness and usability on the dominant form factor - the normal computer - though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (3p5uk)

341 Surely you can do better than that.

No, probably not. I surrender.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (Xrfse)

342 Jinx!

There is no jinx, there is only the Hordemind.

Posted by: Blanco Basura -(SchxB)- moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (SchxB)

343 > Aren't those good things, generally speaking?

The idea that complex values are transferred through breastfeeding is insane. A reliance/interest in alternative medicine is somehow imprinted on an infant through breastfeeding?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (UW2ZS)

344 Well, OK. I didn't think they existed but they did find one thing. American citizens in.Afghanistan are NOT infrastructure.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (d9FiS)

345 Everybody all plussed up on coffee and smokes to last till March, maybe April?

Posted by: Common Tater at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (D1bJZ)

346 Sure, I admire that about him. He's pretty good. I'd consider him a fine person to run a business in better times. But I would never, ever consider him worthy of the job of leading the free world, unless there was just nobody better to take his place.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:50 PM (KZzsI)

You will never be happy then.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (mR6Gs)

347 No, probably not. I surrender.

Hey that's my line!

Posted by: Gen Milley at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (DpkTQ)

348 315 But this has been a problem for ages. Show me someone who desperately wants to be in charge, and I'll show you someone who unequivocally shouldn't be.

Posted by: Broseidon at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (7gUlF)

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e.g.: Beto

Posted by: 496 at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (VJsqe)

349 I still think breakup of the US into separate nations is the only possible non-bloody path out. And even that seems unlikely, with the level of hatred the left has for us.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 19, 2021 03:47 PM (8548M)

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This is likely the best way forward, but will by necessity eventually be bloody. The incompetent, self-destructive, megalomaniac parasites cannot survive without a healthy host upon which to feed.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 19, 2021 03:56 PM (KLuIa)

350 We can't guarantee your safety, but if you make it ou, you owe us two grand. Brilliant!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2021 03:56 PM (kTF2Z)

351 How many Mozarts, Einsteins, Christopher Wrens, Shakespeares, etc have we aborted in the last 40 years? How many great leaders, thinkers, visionaries, and towering figures of finance and business have we murdered in the name of convenience?

What's left after this wholesale slaughter of innocent, helpless babies day after day, year after year?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:56 PM (KZzsI)

352 When you're making an argument, it's not your burden to list the vast number of ways two things are not alike. This is a piece of bread, this is a hammer, I shouldn't have to tell you that the bread isn't as good at securing nails, unless it's a stale baguette.

If there's a glaring incongruence, then yeah, that should be addressed. I'm not sure that there is.

Posted by: Broseidon at August 19, 2021 03:56 PM (7gUlF)

353 In response to continuing out of control crime in Atlanta Buckhead area, a popular chain Taco Mac has announced it is closing up shop there. This is going to be the beginning of a flood. Good job mayor Keisha. People are scared to go out at night, local economy will be destroyed but there are no more racist cops murdering your thug base so all is good.


Let It Burn.

Posted by: Ripley at August 19, 2021 03:56 PM (MxEKc)

354 The idea that complex values are transferred through breastfeeding is insane. A reliance/interest in alternative medicine is somehow imprinted on an infant through breastfeeding?
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (UW2ZS)
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Oh, sure. The premise is bonkers. Even if it weren't, though, it sounds like it would be a ringing endorsement for more breastfeeding.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:56 PM (3p5uk)

355
My brassieres use technology more commonly used to support the ceilings in medieval churches.


I once read an article about the Mercury-Apollo spacesuits. NASA just couldn't make them properly, and in a freak spasm of intelligence, approached Playtex to make them, which they successfully did.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2021 03:57 PM (ZsR3z)

356 @206

>>This fit brunette in a barely-there bikini, white sneakers and a jean jacket read this essay agrees that the managerial class is entirely bankrupt and is a dead system walking:
https://is.gd/1idVuL

I bet she smells good.

Posted by: Thomas Bender, 25 years until the next Tool album. at August 19, 2021 03:57 PM (GOGEo)

357 In my own experience everyone I've known interested in "alternative medicine" is a left leaning LIV wine mom.

Like the Oprah/Jim Carrey real "anti-vaxx" believing types.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 03:57 PM (DpkTQ)

358 Impressive engineering.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 19, 2021 03:42 PM (jOcSX)

My brassieres use technology more commonly used to support the ceilings in medieval churches.
Posted by: alexthechick - boobs and hysterics

There was a study recently that showed bras cause boob to sag. They force the nipple down. People who stopped had their nipples perk back up...eventually.
Ok, the last part was wish casting, but bras do cause the boobs and nipples to point downward.
Maybe The Great Reset will solve this problem.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 19, 2021 03:57 PM (8akOE)

359 We break up, we will be absorbed a piece at a time, has been a recurring thought to me...

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2021 03:58 PM (6Je/Q)

360 "It is not just that the elite class is incompetent -- even kings could be incompetent without undermining belief in monarchy as a system -- it is that they are so grossly, spectacularly incompetent that they walk around among us as living rebuttals of meritocracy itself. "

This is not a meritocracy. It is the very opposite of it. It's an oligarchy comprised mostly of That Ethnicity That Shall Not Be Named stifling all dissent through a stranglehold of levers of power.

If it were a meritocracy, people hold opposing ideas to the state would actually be able to compete in the arena of ideas without their social media, payment accounts, and website registrars being shut down.

Posted by: Knee Grow at August 19, 2021 03:58 PM (gaEAz)

361 Apparently you weren't impressed the the Abraham accords, or putting Nato in it's place and getting countries to contribute more money or getting Rocket Man to stop firing missiles.

The problem here is that we're willing to accept so little. Getting a maniac to stop threatening other people is the bare minimum of what we should expect of a president. It only looks good because such losers and incompetents were in power before him.

None of that stuff is particularly shocking in its significance or greatness, as good as it all might be. Its just the stuff presidents should have been doing but haven't been for so long we started to think of it as normal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:58 PM (KZzsI)

362 She makes me feel funny in head, and in my pants:

https://bit.ly/2W3AocO
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (ufFY

They couldn't move that chyron a bit lower--or lose it all together?

Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:58 PM (mR6Gs)

363 Maybe The Great Reset will solve this problem.

Well, then I'm all for it.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 19, 2021 03:58 PM (Xrfse)

364 >>State Dept's Overseas Security Advisory Council said Aug. 14: "Repatriation flights are not free, & passengers will be required to sign a promissory loan agreement & may not be eligible to renew their U.S. passports til the loan is repaid. Cost may be $2,000 or more per person."

Sure sure, we left billions of dollars in military hardware and NGO cash and gold to be raided by goat herding scavengers and opium drug lords - but let's try and make this up a few bucks on the very poor and desperate refugees that we created.

These people are absolute ghouls. Not sure how they live with themselves....



Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (5iUNf)

365 Heh, we were required to read that at the software startup I worked for back in the early 2000s.

Somebody subsequently came out with a funny parody entitled "Who Cut the Cheese?"
Posted by: ShainS

We had to read it years ago, because a big customer....Philip Morris....thought it was a good idea. I read part of it and laughed at my CEO (now long gone) about how silly it was.
And there was a parody written..."Who Moved My Soap", about all the corrupt CEO's and managers that ended up in prison.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (vcOmj)

366 She makes me feel funny in head, and in my pants:

https://bit.ly/2W3AocO
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (ufFY

Goddamn! That chick is on FIRE!!!!!

Posted by: Robert - 15 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (1Yy3c)

367 Now I want a fit hottie and a baguette

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (XvPQV)

368 There is a serious PR problem now, and that will have consequences. There's no trust in scientific research and progress anymore, because the people most vocal have been the least honest. They are also perverting the next generation of scientists and engineers, which will make them incompetent and that will be very bad.

Agree. A significant chunk of the population is temperamentally inclined towards crystals and cargo cults, and it's getting worse.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (ZsR3z)

369 @Breaking911 1m

State Department Spokesman Ned Price says there's "congestion" at Kabul airport but "things are moving quite efficiently."

https://tinyurl.com/yjlgbjok

Yeah, just a little 'congestion'...some guy with a flat tire is all.

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (cF8AT)

370 > Your problem was using it on a computer. On a touch screen, the interface made some degree of sense and was fairly intuitive. They utterly sacrificed intuitiveness and usability on the dominant form factor - the normal computer - though.

Eh, even on a computer it was easy-peasy. If you knew the name of the program you wanted to open, you just start typing the name and it appears. If you can't think of the name, just click an icon and a full list of apps appear for your to scroll through.

I get that it really pisses people off when they have to use a new interface, but the idea that Win8 was somehow uniquely awful is honestly baffling to me. Once you understood the paradigm, it was on par with most other modern UIs.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (UW2ZS)

371 315 But this has been a problem for ages. Show me someone who desperately wants to be in charge, and I'll show you someone who unequivocally shouldn't be.

There is Modern Cincinnatus
Posted by: Broseidon at August 19, 2021 03:52 PM (7gUlF)

The good news is that like Trump there are many capable people who have been sitting on the sidelines. They won't move until they feel it is necessary, that is survival or moral duty requires it. The bad news is that if they end up at loggerheads with one another things can get very bloody.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (z5Vrg)

372 She makes me feel funny in head, and in my pants:

https://bit.ly/2W3AocO
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at August 19, 2021 03:54 PM (ufFY
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I wonder if she has a sister.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (3p5uk)

373 The idea that complex values are transferred through breastfeeding is insane. A reliance/interest in alternative medicine is somehow imprinted on an infant through breastfeeding?
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (UW2ZS)
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Oh, sure. The premise is bonkers. Even if it weren't, though, it sounds like it would be a ringing endorsement for more breastfeeding.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:56 PM (3p5uk)

I took that quote to mean the chestfeeding person is now the one interested in alternative meds, etc.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (5HZN2)

374 Trump is the first president since Reagan that actually tried to advance the American interest.

He failed in a lot of those endeavors for various reasons.

So yes he was both the best president since the 80s and also not good enough.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 04:00 PM (DpkTQ)

375 A little over 20 years ago I was employed at a large technology firm. A new CEO came in, a man who had been one of Jack Welch's direct reports at GE. He had what was at that time the best possible pedigree for an American business executive. It was soon apparent to me that he had the same stupid ideas and habits of thought as most of the other executives I had observed closely. He failed miserably as CEO. I called my realization "the End of Management". Fast forward 15-20 years and my present employer has been effectively taken over by people from GE. They seem no more capable. Even so, what's playing out in Afghanistan stuns me in its ineptitude (if it's really ineptitude and not malice aforethought.)

Posted by: IronDave at August 19, 2021 04:00 PM (k3crU)

376 The longer I live the more I'm convinced that "meritocracy" is a myth sold to us rubes by the elites to keep us working hard to make them money.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2021 04:00 PM (II3Gr)

377 I get that it really pisses people off when they have to use a new interface, but the idea that Win8 was somehow uniquely awful is honestly baffling to me. Once you understood the paradigm, it was on par with most other modern UIs.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (UW2ZS)
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I hated Win8 and its server versions and I still do. Win10 has a very useful interface and it took a lot of functionality cues from Win8 without being an appalling user experience. The full-screen start menu was a disaster, and its type-to-find was slow (whereas 10's is fast).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 04:01 PM (3p5uk)

378 Shouldn't alexthechick be like modeling for the Notre Dame cathedral or something?

Posted by: pahound at August 19, 2021 04:01 PM (Z2AXa)

379 A significant chunk of the population is temperamentally inclined towards crystals and cargo cults, and it's getting worse.

And the behavior of science as an institution is pushing people more and more toward that.

And the ones who cling to science today are largely people who are superstitious and cling to it as substitute Jesus, not out of understanding or knowledge of science.

All those "I F'ing Love Science" people, the ones who couldn't tell you the scientific method at gunpoint aren't so fond of science as a discipline that uncovers facts and exploits them, but they love it out of a worship of something powerful and magical.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 04:01 PM (KZzsI)

380 I get that it really pisses people off when they have to use a new interface, but the idea that Win8 was somehow uniquely awful is honestly baffling to me. Once you understood the paradigm, it was on par with most other modern UIs.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (UW2ZS)



To say that once you adapt to the interface it is great is not a ringing endorsement of it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 04:01 PM (yQpMk)

381 No, probably not. I surrender.

Hey that's my line!

Posted by: Gen Milley at August 19, 2021 03:55 PM (DpkTQ)

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Can we trade all U.S. generals to France today for that group of current and retired generals who, in writing, smacked around Macron and their ruling class in that open letter recently ... and some babes to be named later?

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 19, 2021 04:02 PM (KLuIa)

382 "My brassieres use technology"

Peasants and wood scaffolding?
Tough to travel with all that.

Posted by: DaveA at August 19, 2021 04:02 PM (FhXTo)

383 Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 19, 2021 04:02 PM (otCYC)

384 The Abraham accords are a great example of why the gangsters had to get rid of Trump.


I'm convinced they happened, and happened at warp speed(heh), because as the intermediary the Trumps didn't demand their piece of the action, the graft, the way all other Foreign Policy Experts and intermediaries do.

Posted by: davidt at August 19, 2021 04:02 PM (LwWX1)

385 "Still, it is quite obvious that the epoch of the liberal technocrat is now over."

Oh, I don't know how obvious it is. I think the epoch is doing quite well. That is, despite its collapse of competency I see no evidence that it losing power; indeed, I see the collapse as inversely strengthening its will to power.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 19, 2021 04:03 PM (YeToG)

386 Think of someone like Lawrence Tribe. Twitter has pretty much shown him to be a deranged imbecile who'd happily load certain people into box cars. Yet, in a long career, the legal philosophy peddled by this lunatic held great sway and was bought by the Supreme Court and other high courts.

Posted by: ejochs at August 19, 2021 04:03 PM (lSFMQ)

387 "the idea that Win8 was somehow uniquely awful is honestly baffling to me."

One word: Metro.

Posted by: From Tinker To Evers To gp, Who Boots It at August 19, 2021 04:03 PM (qpX6U)

388 Here's some video of the congestion.

https://bit.ly/3ANirxM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 04:03 PM (d9FiS)

389 The longer I live the more I'm convinced that "meritocracy" is a myth sold to us rubes by the elites to keep us working hard to make them money.

Disagree. The "meritocracy" is generally very good at the things it values, usually grades and literacy. The problem is that they don't understand that these attributes aren't what makes a leader. There is a disconnect between the things that convey prestice, e.g. a Harvard degree, and the ability to solve real world problems and deal with people unlike themselves.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2021 04:03 PM (ZsR3z)

390 I'm convinced they happened, and happened at warp speed (heh), because as the intermediary the Trumps didn't demand their piece of the action, the graft, the way all other Foreign Policy Experts and intermediaries do.

I agree completely with all your points. Trump bypassed the grifters and the incompetents, and the time-wasters and just got it done, and they hated him for how they didn't get their cut.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 04:03 PM (KZzsI)

391 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 03:39 PM (3p5uk)

Why does she have such a big skateboard?

Posted by: clutch at August 19, 2021 04:03 PM (9UmRs)

392 Considering the caliber of recent Secretaries of State-with the exception of Pompeo who did a good job, and seems like a fine and patriotic man-Blinken seems like a good name for this SOS (He didn't see anything coming) Hillary can be Winken (Winking at all the corruption) and Nod-Kerry seemed asleep.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2021 04:04 PM (ai5jE)

393 Mannix will never poast a 10/10 face like Compton Hannah. Young lady should be making millions for a makeup line.

https://www.tiktok.com/@comptonhannah


Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 19, 2021 04:04 PM (8akOE)

394 Why does she have such a big skateboard?
Posted by: clutch at August 19, 2021 04:03 PM (9UmRs)

Size queen, calling it now.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 04:04 PM (XvPQV)

395 To say that once you adapt to the interface it is great is not a ringing endorsement of it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 04:01 PM (yQpMk)
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It's fair. A lot of times the new interface is objectively better - it shows you more things, puts things into better context, requires fewer clicks to get from A to B, etc. But if it's very different, then people who have learned the old way will hate the new way.

I went through this at my last company, when we did a full-blown UI overhaul. Customers despised it for the first two releases and now they love it, and no one pines for the clunky old system they defended fiercely. Change is hard and having to adapt to something new always sucks. I get that, and have been on both sides of it.

But Win8 still had a shitty interface.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 04:04 PM (3p5uk)

396 To say that once you adapt to the interface it is great is not a ringing endorsement of it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 04:01 PM (yQpMk)

The problem with the user interface is the user.

Posted by: flounder at August 19, 2021 04:05 PM (KnJdm)

397 Meritocracies are fragile. As soon as someone gets in, he starts trying to set the system so his children are in as well.

This is why Trump got virtually NO help from anyone in the Senate, the House or SCOTUS. ACB and Kav have children. Being perceived to be helping Trump would get you kicked out of the Club.

Ditto the members of the media
Posted by: JoeF. at August 19, 2021 03:31 PM (mR6Gs)


That is one reason Feminism has destroyed the Post WW2 society. Not only do they have your children held over you, but they also have your spouse. Entrap the spouse in a great "job," Like Michelle Obama getting $300,000 a year hospital job. Soon you end up with Fredo and Sonny Cuomo, or ??? the clown mocking ignorant 27 year old reporters and his Bro in CBS News.

Posted by: rd at August 19, 2021 04:05 PM (Z32m1)

398 It's a good read and I agree but I'm concerned with what comes next. Part of me thinks this is planned obsolescence. The next form of our destructor takes on names like World Health Organzation and World Economic Forum. World Banking Org and so on.

That was the plan. Our fall was necessary as the last bastion of true independence.

Which raises the question why you see such a massive rise in totalitarianism under these COVID laws. Getting people used to dictatorial rules.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 19, 2021 04:06 PM (4fSQf)

399 Mannix will never poast a 10/10 face like Compton Hannah. Young lady should be making millions for a makeup line.

She's pretty to be sure, but I think she'd look better with less makeup.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2021 04:06 PM (ZsR3z)

400 Why does she have such a big skateboard?
Posted by: clutch at August 19, 2021 04:03 PM (9UmRs)
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It's a "longboard." When I was in college, the guys who used them preferred them because they are easy to use to move long distances pretty easily. They aren't fast, you can't do tricks, etc. but apparently they're very efficient.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 19, 2021 04:06 PM (3p5uk)

401 Fast forward 15-20 years and my present employer has been effectively taken over by people from GE. They seem no more capable. Even so, what's playing out in Afghanistan stuns me in its ineptitude (if it's really ineptitude and not malice aforethought.)
Posted by: IronDave

The chronic ineptitude will continue and get worse...for a while. Because the FedGov has a monopoly on force. And as long as that Federal Force (whatever you want to label it as) continues to be loyal to their paymasters, this shit show charade will continue.
But...I think that there are real fractures this time. A lot of people have had their eyes rudely opened.

To this, I say,"Welcome to the party, pal!"

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 19, 2021 04:06 PM (vcOmj)

402 Windows 7 was the zenith of the platform, but instead of using that structure and design as a template for later more robust versions able to handle modern technology, they made worse and more complicated, more vast and screwy versions of the OS until its this bloated behemoth that takes over your computer and every patch screws up your platform.

Microsoft is a perfect example of the kudzu-like expansion of software as memory and computer speed grows. Compare the lean, tight, and effective programs of the past that fit on one floppy with the gargantuan megaprograms today that are huge and sloppy because your system can make them run well anyway with high speed processors.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 04:06 PM (KZzsI)

403 *Adjusts tin foil hat*

They're turning Australia back into a penal colony to house us deplorables.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2021 04:06 PM (kTF2Z)

404 @380

>>To say that once you adapt to the interface it is great is not a ringing endorsement of it.

It's why I've always preferred Apple, it's essential look and feel have not changed in 40 years.


And is why I say the zenith of the Windows OS was Windows 2000 it's been down hill ever since.

Posted by: Thomas Bender, 25 years until the next Tool album. at August 19, 2021 04:07 PM (GOGEo)

405 Bonhomme,
I do tech support. Every single Win 8 call took an extra 10-15 minutes just to get them to places that looked familiar. They do the same sort of thing with Win 10 but they left the start menu alone. People don't like change.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 19, 2021 04:07 PM (YynYJ)

406
Sure sure, we left billions of dollars in military hardware and NGO cash and gold to be raided by goat herding scavengers and opium drug lords - but let's try and make this up a few bucks on the very poor and desperate refugees that we created.

These people are absolute ghouls. Not sure how they live with themselves....

Posted by: Boswell at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (5iUNf)


It's worse than you think. He's referring to repatriation flights, meaning people who are returning to the US, meaning American citizens.

The Afghan non-American-citizens who manage to squeeze themselves into a transport will fly free.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 19, 2021 04:07 PM (n+4am)

407 393 Mannix will never poast a 10/10 face like Compton Hannah. Young lady should be making millions for a makeup line.

https://www.tiktok.com/@comptonhannah


Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 19, 2021 04:04 PM (8akOE

Is she paying you for site hits? Lol. Chick ain't that good looking.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 19, 2021 04:08 PM (4fSQf)

408 I swear to god there is a collective conscious on this blog.

Posted by: Thomas Bender, 25 years until the next Tool album. at August 19, 2021 04:08 PM (GOGEo)

409 Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;

-
And the five day forecast, mere anarchy continuing tomorrow and into weekend and even the beginning of next week so dress appropriately and take an umbrella.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 19, 2021 04:08 PM (d9FiS)

410 they walk around among us as living rebuttals of meritocracy itself.

Reading it now. This line struck my funny bone.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2021 04:08 PM (vOGqy)

411 @RichardGrenell

.@GavinNewsom needs to be asked if his team did this on purpose. This is cheating.

https://tinyurl.com/yfgj8pql

Posted by: Tami at August 19, 2021 04:08 PM (cF8AT)

412 XP-Pro!

Posted by: Grouch at August 19, 2021 04:08 PM (LwWX1)

413 I prefer a flying buttress.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 19, 2021 04:09 PM (UHVv4)

414 276 I still think breakup of the US into separate nations is the only possible non-bloody path out. And even that seems unlikely, with the level of hatred the left has for us.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 19, 2021 03:47 PM (8548M)

I don't want the country broken up. I want our enemies to be savagely destroyed. And seeing how the elite have no mastery over logistics, I honestly believe their destruction wouldn't take very long at all.

Posted by: joefl65 at August 19, 2021 04:09 PM (Xxbuo)

415 Nood.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 19, 2021 04:09 PM (dfRN6)

416 *Adjusts tin foil hat*

They're turning Australia back into a penal colony to house us deplorables.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2021 04:06 PM (kTF2Z)


On the bright side, we'll have a great opera house for attending the mandatory lectures on the primacy of the collective over individual rights.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 19, 2021 04:09 PM (guGkK)

417 Once you understood the paradigm, it was on par with most other modern UIs.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (UW2ZS)
To say that once you adapt to the interface it is great is not a ringing endorsement of it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 04:01 PM (yQpMk)


8 was as close as M$ ever got to brilliant.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 19, 2021 04:09 PM (wAnMi)

418 > To say that once you adapt to the interface it is great is not a ringing endorsement of it.

Like it or not, it's true of all interfaces. Apple OS is widely considered to be the pinnacle of usability and user friendliness. Now ask someone who has been in the Windows world all their life, or someone who doesn't use computers to use it.

They will struggle. I've seen it. I've experienced it myself.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 04:09 PM (UW2ZS)

419 Speaking of Feminism ruining everything, the trailer for the new Disney Cinderella movie is total cringe.

THIS Cinderella isn't oppressed and tormented, she's an empowered woman with a career and she don't need no man.

From a storytelling viewpoint, it's shit. From a propaganda viewpoint it's clumsy.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 19, 2021 04:09 PM (XvPQV)

420 Millenium Edition!!!!

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2021 04:09 PM (6Je/Q)

421 The longer I live the more I'm convinced that "meritocracy" is a myth sold to us rubes by the elites to keep us working hard to make them money.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2021 04:00 PM (II3Gr)

-------

Yeah, I was most disillusioned when I finally got out of college (haven't worked my ass off to escape poverty) to discover that corporate America was socialist/collectivist, not meritocracy- and capitalistic-based). Excellence was punished, and mediocrity rewarded.

Text you be calling me that the radical feminist/"women's lib" movement was actually a deliberate plan to destroy the family unit -- replacing the father and.then eventually both parents with the feral gubmint as caretaker/indoctrinator.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 19, 2021 04:10 PM (KLuIa)

422 To some extent, the failure of the managerial class and its subsequent fall can be seen in the Middle East among the Arab nations. Once upon a time, countries across the Middle East and northern Africa sought to emulate the most successful society that they saw--the West. Even after independence, or retained independence, the ideas of a managerial class leading these countries to success was widely popular. However, that class failed in what they claimed as a primary task--retaking Israel. Thus, this failure, as well as the failure to bring a sufficient standard of living to the working class and poor, led the Middle East to turn to first military rulers and then religious leaders.

However, in the East, the technocrats by and large succeeded in S. Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Singapore, China, etc, which is an interesting counterpoint to the West showing increasing hostility between the managerial elites and the common populace (see Brexit for example).

Posted by: whig at August 19, 2021 04:10 PM (pO7gM)

423 I swear to god there is a collective conscious on this blog.

Posted by: Thomas Bender, 25 years until the next Tool album. at August 19, 2021 04:08 PM (GOGEo)


Just wait till we all synchronize our periods.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 19, 2021 04:10 PM (45fpk)

424 I disagree with the part about elites being "living rebuttals of meritocracy itself." We've read Dr. Jill's so-called paper that took the place of a normal (aka TOUGH) doctoral thesis based on more than a review of current literature. We suspect there's a reason no one knows Obama's grades or accomplishments prior to when he gave a speech for the DNC. Ocasio-Cortes wouldn't be slinging drinks if it weren't for a whole lot of money and Chakrabarti's diabolical dreams.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 19, 2021 04:10 PM (/+bwe)

425 Mannix will never poast a 10/10 face like Compton Hannah. Young lady should be making millions for a makeup line.

https://www.tiktok.com/@comptonhannah


Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 19, 2021 04:04 PM (8akOE

Butter face.

Posted by: Robert - 15 Days until the new Iron Maiden album at August 19, 2021 04:12 PM (1Yy3c)

426 * Sorry about the apparent typos -- doing voice translation on my tiny phone while driving.

Posted by: ShainS -- Unauthorized Freedom Exhibitionist at August 19, 2021 04:12 PM (KLuIa)

427 State Department Spokesman Ned Price says there's "congestion" at Kabul airport but "things are moving quite efficiently."
.........

Goat herder rush hour. Plus Ned Price is a douche.

Posted by: wth at August 19, 2021 04:12 PM (v0R5T)

428 And "once you understand the paradigm" ?

I work with people that still don't know what a web browser is. They aren't sure how to right click. You have to try and figure out their problem based on how they describe their connection. And they didn't buy a computer to do updates.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 19, 2021 04:12 PM (YynYJ)

429 My brassieres use technology


See how the mainsail sets......

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 19, 2021 04:13 PM (Jxqr2)

430 I liked XP too, but it had limitations to it that couldn't handle the changing tech.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 04:13 PM (KZzsI)

431 Butter face.

Its hard to tell. I wonder what she looks like when you hose all that stuff off.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 04:14 PM (KZzsI)

432 They're turning Australia back into a penal colony to house us deplorables.

They're certainly rounding up their own deplorables at warp speed. You may be onto something there.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 19, 2021 04:14 PM (Xrfse)

433 However, in the East, the technocrats by and large succeeded in S. Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Singapore, China, etc, which is an interesting counterpoint to the West showing increasing hostility between the managerial elites and the common populace (see Brexit for example).
Posted by: whig

The variable is IQ. Asians are smarter (higher IQ) than Arabs. Even Arab "experts" are likely milqtoast mediocrities.
I would wager most of the Arab Experts were put in place because of their family connections that got them credentialed degrees in the West.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at August 19, 2021 04:15 PM (vcOmj)

434 So I see we are moving from Crossbow vs longbows to who is the prettiest tartlet in infotainment.

He see some epic threads ahead

Posted by: 18-1 at August 19, 2021 04:15 PM (DpkTQ)

435 I work with people that still don't know what a web browser is.

Same here and no matter how you try and explain its function, it just doesn't sink in.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 19, 2021 04:16 PM (Xrfse)

436 265 This is why I don't celebrate Trump or love the guy. He's not worthy to tie George Washington's boot laces, let alone run this country.

But he's the best we can do in our times. Let that sink in: this is the best we have now. Donald Freaking Trump.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2021 03:45 PM (KZzsI)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yes, reading your incessant, navel-gazing drivel, I'm SHOCKED to find out that you're a barely reformed NeverTrump loser.

Posted by: deadrody at August 19, 2021 04:17 PM (V9901)

437 396 To say that once you adapt to the interface it is great is not a ringing endorsement of it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 19, 2021 04:01 PM (yQpMk)

The problem with the user interface is the user.
Posted by: flounder at August 19, 2021 04:05 PM (KnJdm)
---------------
A project manager I used to work with said "God created the world in 8 days, but had no installed base to worry about"

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 19, 2021 04:17 PM (3ZPfR)

438 And "once you understand the paradigm" ?

I work with people that still don't know what a web browser is. They aren't sure how to right click. You have to try and figure out their problem based on how they describe their connection. And they didn't buy a computer to do updates.


I don't understand this argument. Are you saying UIs need to be so simple, that even someone who doesn't know anything about computers and who doesn't understand the simplest concepts about them should get the UI right away?

Has anyone achieved this?

Even on an iPad, which most children pick up very quickly, you have to figure out which icon opens up an internet browser. Changing settings requires clicking around in the Settings menu and is beyond most kids until they're in second grade or so.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 04:18 PM (UW2ZS)

439 Read a book by a man that did usability studies for software companies. He would show them videos of how customers used the interface and they would be stunned. Never occured to them that someone would see it differently.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 19, 2021 04:20 PM (YynYJ)

440 One by one Leftist Propaganda Ministry outlets are blaming Sundowner for Afghanistan.
A small crack but something is going on.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2021 04:20 PM (znIQ9)

441 433, I think to some degree, depending on the country in the Middle East, what you say is true in places like Jordan or Saudi Arabia. Egypt, Syria, or even Iraq or Iran after the Shah, not so much. North African states aside from Morocco were primarily led by the revolutionalists that wrested independence from the West.

I also think part of it relates to time line as the longer a managerial administrative class exists, the more it decays in place. Japan, at the leading edge of expertise, is on the surface successful but demographics, the behavior of the youth, etc. say something else. I imagine general IQ helps but its not sufficient itself to run a society long run.

Posted by: whig at August 19, 2021 04:21 PM (pO7gM)

442 Mannix will never poast a 10/10 face like Compton Hannah. Young lady should be making millions for a makeup line.

https://www.tiktok.com/@comptonhannah

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 19, 2021 04:04 PM (8akOE
Butter face.
Posted by: Robert - 15 Days until the new Iron Maiden

Wat? You crazy lol. She is perfectly symmetrical with hunter eyes which are green and black hair and perfect lips, nose, teeth, high cheekbones (hunter eyes) and chin.
Butter face. LMAO.
I will die on this hill

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 19, 2021 04:26 PM (8akOE)

443 One ironic thing is, on the same day we're talking about this, the smart set, managerial class has done the following:

Nervous banks pressure OnlyFans into banning sexually explicit material.

IE, the veritable entirety of their $2 Billion in annual revenues.

That is stunning in it's incredible stupidity in so many ways.

Posted by: deadrody at August 19, 2021 04:28 PM (V9901)

444 Its hard to tell. I wonder what she looks like when you hose all that stuff off.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Symmetry and features tho. She doesn't wear that much make up.
Leave Compton Hannah alone!

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 19, 2021 04:28 PM (8akOE)

445 1.

Look carefully, and you will see that all the real political disagreements today are between defenders of the Professional Managerial Class' right-to-rule -- NeverTrumpers and the liberal establishment, all so very proud of their degrees and comfortable upper-middle-class Class Mores --and those who believe the Professional Managerial Class is obscenely unqualified to rule, and meets each new failure with arrogance that the Serfs Just Don't Understand How Hard It Is To Rule.

Ace, the end of the Spanish Empire with the loss of the Spanish Colonies in the spanish American war has been considered (by a minority of turn of the century politicians and a few oddball libertarian philosophers) to have been when the mantle of empire passed from Spain to the US, only "this time we will do it better" since the progressives had determined to get rid of all the old ways of thinking and institute scientific theories to make it all better. since 1898 the US has worked to influence the world and make it better, whatever that was supposed to mean.
(cont'd)

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2021 04:33 PM (BbDPD)

446 2.

The spanish empire did not fall because it was old fashioned, in ways it was quite modern in its approach to warfare, colonialism and trade. It was incompetent at it, and was focused on being glorious, and not on being successful. The colonies were a source of money and power, the source of military and political advancement, and were a drain on Spain for these very reasons. However the colonies and the empire was seen as the basis for all things Spanish, its past, present and future; the pretext for sacrifice, and the means for success. When Spain lost to the upstart Americans, it became essential to find out what went wrong and what was actually the truth. One of the artistic schools became the generaton of 98, which tried to determine "what now Spain"

(cont'd)

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2021 04:33 PM (BbDPD)

447 3.

Spain continued to be a colonial and military presence in Northern Africa, and fought bloody battles that seemed to accomplish nothing but produce misery and military honors, but the ruling class began to attack itself, usurpers trying to replace the powers that were seen as illegitimate, replace cultural mores and beliefs that were claimed to be holding the Modern Spain from achieving its glorious future, and so polarized and whipsawed from pole to pole it seemed the only solution was to start digging trenches and filling them with their enemies to protect themselves.

(Cont'd)

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2021 04:33 PM (BbDPD)

448 4.

Sarah Hoyt claimed, from her experience in growning up in Portugal transitioning from Salazar to today, that under such stress the country's basic values come to the fore. I think the US Empire is done, and I can't mourn its passing. It was a banner we should have let lie in 1898, and it warped our country and people and may yet destroy us. I hope Sarah is right that we find our roots, and I pray our roots are not so debased by pretentions of empire that they will not resprout.

What now America can be complicated and as full of cut-outs, special benefits and "deals for dear friends" as any IRS code, or it can be simple, and open and understandable. If there is a Generation 2021, I hope that is what it pushes towards. We have had too much special deals for special folks, and that seems to always lead to towards upticks in digging trenches, one way or another

Posted by: Kindltot at August 19, 2021 04:33 PM (BbDPD)

449 I'm saying that they decided to use the desktop metaphor for computers. People understood that and used it for years. Windows 8 went with tiles, which actually worked pretty well on the phone but just confused people. And yes, interfaces can be simple. Look at what Palm came up with.

If I have to troubleshoot Outlook, I start with "depending on your version, find the File ot Account tab. If you don't see that, go to the Tools menu." That was someone making a change just to call it new and improved.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 19, 2021 04:40 PM (YynYJ)

450 They are Leninists. They think society should be ordered with an intellectual class (them) nmaking all the decisions on behalf of the oppressed masses (their voter base) and against the oppressor ownership class (us).

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at August 19, 2021 05:43 PM (vN+oL)

451 The podunk associate professor's argument was the degrees were proof enough of genius and he wouldn't be persuaded that the lack of tangible, standalone artifacts was remarkable.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:21 PM (UW2ZS)

The response to that is how many of these degrees are given out per year - 10, 20? Are all of them the world transcending genius like he claimed Barry was?

Posted by: Oldcat at August 19, 2021 05:50 PM (eoQWY)

452 I always credit Henry VIII for accidentally creating the middle class. His distrust of his fellow royals after the Wars of the Roses led him to appoint commoners to powerful posts, and amazingly, they did quite well. Although it was still likely they would suffer the same fate as some of the ruling class, it proved that merit was not limited by birth.

Posted by: I M Simpleton at August 19, 2021 05:55 PM (jQBOW)

453 I get that it really pisses people off when they have to use a new interface, but the idea that Win8 was somehow uniquely awful is honestly baffling to me. Once you understood the paradigm, it was on par with most other modern UIs.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2021 03:59 PM (UW2ZS)

The fellows that invented Esperanto were always baffled nobody adopted it as well. They couldn't see why people who had spent the time to learn their native language wouldn't just drop it and adopt this new one.

There was already an interface for Windows, good or indifferent. It wasn't adding features that screwed 8, it was taking the old ones away with no replacement. If they had just added the features, it may have caught on, although few machines then had touchscreens even on portables, much less desktops. But it was the totalitarian removal of the old features that caused the fury.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 19, 2021 06:00 PM (eoQWY)

454 Great, meaty essay.

Now to see how well the comments keep up.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 19, 2021 08:34 PM (Om/di)

455 I disagree with the claim that the failure of the professional class disproves meritocracy. The problem is not a failed meritocracy. It's the failed credentialocracy. (Yeah, I just made that word up.) The fundamental source of all the West's failing leads to the "Institutions of Higher Education". Every profession that fell to the desire for credentials feeds and supports the education industry and the education industry metastasizes it's failings to all. The Pentagon's problem is sending, requiring, higher officers to be contaminated by the education industry. Hence, CRT trumps old fashioned concepts like victory.

Posted by: Jack Howard at August 19, 2021 10:21 PM (jbvxJ)

456 I read the article during my dinner break at work. I was looking forward to reading the comments after work and you Morons never disappoint. I love each and every one of you.

Posted by: Mark in Sandy UT at August 19, 2021 11:10 PM (DTI8p)

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