If China Moves Into Afghanistan, There Will Be Significant Differences Between Its Conduct And That Of The Other Empires That Tried And Failed To Subjugate The Afghans

The Persians, the Greeks, the Arabs, Tamerlane, the British, the Soviet Union, and now America (and I am sure to be missing a few); all tried and failed to conquer, hold and convert Afghanistan to their version of modernity, or subservience, or political orthodoxy.

The Afghans were fiercely tribal long before Islam, and seem to unite only against invaders, against whom they have had success for 2,500 years! They play the long game, and have demonstrated throughout their history a passing interest, if any, in the value of human life. There are great swaths of the country that are unchanged from the time of the Mongols. Many tribes are comfortable living a medieval life, governed by Islam, with the improvements of modern weapons and cell phones.

So why would China attempt a conquest? They have ample evidence of the impossibility of controlling the country. Why should they try when all they want is the economic benefits of all of Afghanistan's mineral wealth, estimated to be in the many hundreds of billions of dollars?

All they will do is strip the Afghans of their wealth, just as they do in Africa, and in return they will be friends of the Taliban, defending them at the UN and on the world stage. And maybe China will use Afghanistan as a conduit for solidifying its presence in the area.

China doesn't "nation build." China takes what it needs and will protect its interests. If the Taliban grow weary of the Chinese presence and begin to push back, then it will get interesting, but it would be in China's best interest to keep the relationship strictly business. The Taliban have a good relationship with Pakistan, as does China, so there is a template in place, and mutual friends to smooth away strife caused by China's theft of Afghanistan's natural resources. And, As America has discovered to its chagrin, China is adept at buying friends, and one would assume that Afghan "friends" are far less expensive than the American variety.

Who knows, maybe China will use Afghanistan as a dumping ground for its own Muslim population, the Uyghurs.

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM

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1 I know the dri
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Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 01:00 PM (znIQ9)

2 Two xenophobic cultures in the same area attempting to dominate the landscape. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 22, 2021 01:02 PM (sOXXq)

3 I don't think China will move in as much as become business partners.
And possibly buying up some of that new military hardware

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 01:02 PM (znIQ9)

4 The Han will be more merciless than the Russians or the Americans.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 22, 2021 01:03 PM (EZebt)

5 The Chinese are at least as uninterested in the dignity of human life as the Afghans, if not more so. If the Taliban ever has a falling out with Beijing and decides to repeat the insurgency tactics they used against us, I think they'll be in for a nasty surprise.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 22, 2021 01:03 PM (At/8G)

6 They will strip astan of what they can.

A chop-chop shop.

Posted by: davidt at August 22, 2021 01:04 PM (LwWX1)

7 I don't think China wants all of Afghanistan. They want to control a few parts to extract minerals. They will use bribery and force to get what they want. And their use of force will make the Soviets look like school children. The ChiComs know how to oppress people. And they will be able to manipulate Pakistan at the same time, leaving the Taliban with few regimes to turn to for assistance.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at August 22, 2021 01:05 PM (+Kpte)

8 >>They will strip astan of what they can.

Yes, that's all they do.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 01:06 PM (bDqIh)

9 It's all about the drug trade. Poppies. Opium. 20 years of the drug trade. It's more lucrative than mining shit out of the ground.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 22, 2021 01:07 PM (ecYxZ)

10 Anyone here responsible like these folks?

https://tinyurl.com/282y2u25

Posted by: Biden's Dog at August 22, 2021 01:07 PM (RBYzW)

11 The panda did a great number on U.S. I'm sure they have some innovative disruptive game-changing ideas for New Saigon, but unlike us they're not delusional SJW liars. Maybe Biden's various grandkids legitimate and otherwise can get in on China-Afghan trade negotiations. Save ten percent for big guy's Slurpee fund

Posted by: Swamposphere at August 22, 2021 01:08 PM (PATNi)

12 Hey, Fat, I said I had a plan!

Posted by: Joe Biden's Last Remaining Synapse at August 22, 2021 01:08 PM (guGkK)

13 I keep asking: we've been told for years that Afghanistan has trillions in mineral wealth.

Yet over the past 20 years, we have done very little to engage in mining operations that would enrich the Afghans and give us concrete reasons to continue occupying the country.

We didn't. Why not?

Why will the Taliban invite the Chinese in while the latter are committing atrocities and cultural genocide against the Uighurs?

Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 22, 2021 01:08 PM (fPFtn)

14 The CCP make excellent business partners.

Posted by: Wm. & Hillary Clinton at August 22, 2021 01:09 PM (a3Q+t)

15 The CCP make excellent business partners.
Posted by: Wm. & Hillary Clinton at August 22, 2021 01:09 PM (a3Q+t)

YOU BET!!!

Posted by: The Los Angeles Times at August 22, 2021 01:10 PM (guGkK)

16 I think the commies will try the "friend" route first, probably through a lease of an area from some warlord they can mine and defend. But yeah they don't care about human life or strategic strikes, they will be brutal if they have to.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2021 01:10 PM (r+sAi)

17 "All they will do is strip the Afghans of their wealth, just as they do in Africa, and in return they will be friends of the Taliban, defending them at the UN and on the world stage. And maybe China will use Afghanistan as a conduit for solidifying its presence in the area."

Meanwhile, we cannot take advantage of the mineral, oil, and natural gas resources here, and all the potential farming and grazing and fishing areas, here. Because of Progressive feel-good BS.

Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 01:12 PM (AMIL/)

18 The CCP make excellent business partners.
Posted by: Wm. & Hillary Clinton at August 22, 2021 01:09 PM (a3Q+t)

Because like Hymen Roth, the CCP always makes money for its partners.

Posted by: Johnny Ola at August 22, 2021 01:12 PM (mR6Gs)

19 Why will the Taliban invite the Chinese in while the latter are committing atrocities and cultural genocide against the Uighurs?
Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 22, 2021 01:08 PM (fPFtn)

Why do left wing woke women in America love Sharia Law?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 01:13 PM (Irn0L)

20 Anyone here responsible like these folks?

https://tinyurl.com/282y2u25
Posted by: Biden's Dog at August 22, 2021 01:07 PM (RBYzW)

I only recognized Julianna Moore (military brat BTW) and Stanley Tucci.

I thought Jason Bourne took him out.

Posted by: Golfman at August 22, 2021 01:13 PM (TNiCN)

21 China is adept at buying friends

We agree.

Posted by: Congress at August 22, 2021 01:13 PM (Xrfse)

22 @7

If the Chinese are smart, and comparatively speaking, they are, they will not interfere in any way with the Afghan culture, they will not be raising the rainbow flag or Uiger lives matter flags over their embassy , or give a flying fuck about how Afghans treat their women and children, they will keep the lights on, keep cell towers working, keep internet working and then strip the hell out of the countries resources.

It will be a transactional relationship, nothing more.

And somewhere along the way, The Big Guy will get his 10 percent cut.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 22, 2021 01:13 PM (GOGEo)

23 If we irradiated all of Afghanistan, those minerals would not be worth jack shit, neither would the opium

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 01:14 PM (Irn0L)

24 As long as China leaves the poppy fields alone, the taliban won't care. "You want dirt? Ok, you can have dirt."

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 22, 2021 01:14 PM (kTF2Z)

25 Watching the Little League World Series. REAL baseball

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 01:15 PM (Irn0L)

26 The damage the Democrats--with most of the GOP's connivance or compliance-- did to the PLANET just to steal the election from Donald Trump is incalculable.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:15 PM (mR6Gs)

27 Ten percent for the Big Guy.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:15 PM (oxVgP)

28 Maybe we should be more concerned about the American resources China has been buying up? The Smithfield purchase was key in spreading covid, as it was Chinese execs who visited at least one processing plant right before the breakouts. How much of our food market do they control via purchase of these legacy companies such as Smithfield?

Then there's this - think this is property they bought during the lockdowns, just as Gates purchased a lot of farmland during the lockdowns:

https://tinyurl.com/4fmcbevu

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 01:16 PM (bDqIh)

29 I doubt the Chi Coms are stupid enough to jump into Afghanistan with both feet, but you never know.

The PRC has a lot of major problems of its own-- 1) aging (but still poor) population; 2) unhappy, restless subgroups; 3) SE Asian nations coalescing, because China is scaring the skit out of them. See, e.g.., the Philippines.

China's own problems don't get much publicity.

Posted by: mnw at August 22, 2021 01:16 PM (Cssks)

30 The damage the Democrats--with most of the GOP's connivance or compliance-- did to the PLANET just to steal the election from Donald Trump is incalculable.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:15 PM (mR6Gs)

You make it sound like we're finished now. There's still plenty left to destroy.

Posted by: The Democrats at August 22, 2021 01:16 PM (guGkK)

31
If the Chinese Communists conclude that is in their interest to, for example, sanitize large areas of Afghanistan with nerve gas or other toxins, they will do so as if spraying insect pests, and the world will do nothing.

They just created a disease and told no one as it propagated around the world. No response from the world. And it was part of an ongoing program to create new diseases, it just escaped early. The mentality behind this is an existential threat. The lack of will to face up to this is also an existential threat.

I do believe the current catastrophic failure is something that the CCP bought and paid for. Part of the plan.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 22, 2021 01:17 PM (2iDSr)

32 Afghanistan doesn't have the infrastructure to support mining operations. Those hydroelectric dams aren't going to get it done.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 22, 2021 01:17 PM (ecYxZ)

33 No Muslim country has protested Chinas treatment of the Uighur people. They know how to put money in the right hands and stifle any criticism of their policy. The U.S. failed throwing billions at the problem and the Chinese used millions in the right individual hands.

Posted by: Ron at August 22, 2021 01:18 PM (pOrFv)

34 Watching the Little League World Series. REAL baseball

Is it the final game?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2021 01:18 PM (r+sAi)

35 I don't see it going any better for them than it did anyone else. As you say, Afghanistan plays the long game. China does too, but the Afghans' track record of pushing out foreigners is *way* better than China's track record of long-term colonization.

Posted by: CppThis at August 22, 2021 01:19 PM (UewuT)

36 They just created a disease and told no one as it propagated around the world. No response from the world. And it was part of an ongoing program to create new diseases, it just escaped early.

Don't forget. We didn't just ignore this; we financed it.

Fauci should hang.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 22, 2021 01:19 PM (guGkK)

37 Britain didn't "nation build" either and it got them nowhere. This argument boils down to "THIS time, it's different", when I fail to see how China wouldn't get bogged down in Afghanistan the same as everyone else.

Posted by: Cow Demon at August 22, 2021 01:19 PM (ITrC8)

38 If China invades Afghanistan it would be good for vertical integration.

By controlling the opium trade, they will be able to marry the sweet, sweet Chinese Fentanyl with the Afghani heroin in a pre-mixed fashion and save on shipping when they send it over to America to kill off all of our children!

In this way it hastens the demise of the American republic. You get willing doctors and pharmacy corporations to put all the oldies on opioids for their pain until the opioids no longer work and they blow their heads off. Meanwhile, you get every low-income 20-something to blow a vein and die.

Couple that with the commie push for chopping your privates off or sucking off same-sex partners, and you should be able to finish America off in 20
to 30 years.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 22, 2021 01:19 PM (7F9te)

39 Afghanistan doesn't have the infrastructure to support mining operations. Those hydroelectric dams aren't going to get it done.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 22, 2021 01:17 PM (ecYxZ)

You'll be surprised at what millions of women and kids armed with spoons can accomplish.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 22, 2021 01:20 PM (guGkK)

40 I recently saw a newish estimate of Afghan mineral wealth, it's now estimated at near $3 trillion. Probably due to inflation I suppose.

The Russians tried the hard core approach, and it didn't work any better there than the milksop hearts and minds routine.

I figure the talis will let China in to build up the mining infrastructure, then toss the bastards out and take over the equipment. Then use the bulldozers to reenact Tiananmen Square.

Posted by: GnuBreed, no circumstance at August 22, 2021 01:20 PM (F0YaR)

41 13 I keep asking: we've been told for years that Afghanistan has trillions in mineral wealth.

Yet over the past 20 years, we have done very little to engage in mining operations that would enrich the Afghans and give us concrete reasons to continue occupying the country.

We didn't. Why not?

Why will the Taliban invite the Chinese in while the latter are committing atrocities and cultural genocide against the Uighurs?

Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 22, 2021 01:08 PM (fPFtn)

I do not know why US and EU countries did not mine in Afghanistan. A possible reason: The millions of tons of valuable metals may not be easily mined. Concentration may be a small quantity per ton of ore. Add this to the risk of the Taliban destroying underground mines and expensive mining equipment and ore processing plants, and cutting road and rail lines.

Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 01:20 PM (AMIL/)

42 I can see a tacit alliance between the US and Russia, if China attempts to move in... which would be... interesting.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 22, 2021 01:20 PM (oHd/0)

43 Trump is re-elected and we have an orderly exit from Afghanistan with an implicit warning to China to stay away.

Trump's mere presence scares the Taliban off from terror against the US, the Chinese from even thinking about Taiwan, Russia from taking Ukraine, Iran and the Norks from trying to go nuclear, keeps Israel and the Gulf Arabs close, puts limits on illegal immigration, prevents the mass exodus of barbaric Afghans , keeps gas prices low and we probably get Greenland and it's trillions of natural resources.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:20 PM (mR6Gs)

44 9 It's all about the drug trade. Poppies. Opium. 20 years of the drug trade. It's more lucrative than mining shit out of the ground.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 22, 2021 01:07 PM (ecYxZ)

THIS. China will buy up the drug routes. This is where the money is. And they'll use this leverage to accrue the minerals and other resources.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 22, 2021 01:21 PM (Fs5vw)

45 You want to destroy the beauty of Afghanistan by MINING???!?!?!!?!??!? Fuck that. We are not letting it happen.

Posted by: Green Peace and 100 Other Soros Backed Organizations at August 22, 2021 01:22 PM (GQ5VU)

46 I do believe the current catastrophic failure is something that the CCP bought and paid for. Part of the plan.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 22, 2021 01:17 PM (2iDSr)

^This.

The Russians thought they'd screw us with effing up the 2016 election.

Chinese didn't say hold my beer. They just dumped the beer on us.

And we'll do nothing.

Posted by: Golfman at August 22, 2021 01:22 PM (hOMhY)

47 They just created a disease and told no one as it propagated around the world. No response from the world. And it was part of an ongoing program to create new diseases, it just escaped early.

Trump was going to make China PAY for that--somehow, some way.
That's another big reason why they got rid of him

It's really sickening to think about this.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:22 PM (mR6Gs)

48 Hmmm. China isn't "going into A'stan". No reason or need.

Taliban has already signaled they're cool with Chinese oppression of Uyghurs (I think we need to work up the number of alternative transliterations of this word to equal those for Qaddafi). In effect. "Internal affair" of China, said a Taliban leader when asked a pointed question about it (note: 8th Century fanatic insurgent leaders in primitive war-zone countries actually get asked tough questions - something those in America may vaguely recall).

If the mineral potential pans out (heh), then Chinese $$$ will be there to get their share. But not really a big deal, geopolitically.

Of course we weren't there for a non-existent "empire", or $$$, or minerals, and the story really is how we went from 12 guys on donkeys, with sat phones and air support, to 100K+ troops and attempting to stand up an actual state with a real army. Our initial involvement was involuntary and driven entirely by events.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 22, 2021 01:23 PM (OTzUX)

49 I look forward to seeing the new group of people Joe Biden is inventing.

Chinese Taliban.

Pause for a moment to appreciate the compassion.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:23 PM (wqFd7)

50 I do not know why US and EU countries did not mine in Afghanistan. A possible reason: The millions of tons of valuable metals may not be easily mined. Concentration may be a small quantity per ton of ore. Add this to the risk of the Taliban destroying underground mines and expensive mining equipment and ore processing plants, and cutting road and rail lines.
Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 01:20 PM (AMIL/)

Look at a map. Afghan has no ports. In order to get large amounts of minerals out, it must go through Iran, Pakistan, or one of the Russian Satellite Stans to the North.

None of which would let it through, for free.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 22, 2021 01:23 PM (oHd/0)

51 Posted by: Green Peace and 100 Other Soros Backed Organizations at August 22, 2021 01:22 PM (GQ5VU)

Calm down. Afghanistan's whale population is close to zero.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 22, 2021 01:23 PM (guGkK)

52 Imagine how f*cking retarded you'd have to be to say "We can stop the spread of a microscopic virus by controlling the movements, actions and bodily functions of every aspect of every member of society " whilst simultaneously saying "There is no way to control the import of Chinese Fentanyl and Afghani heroin, the war on drugs is lost".

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 22, 2021 01:23 PM (7F9te)

53 It's all about the drug trade. Poppies. Opium. 20 years of the drug trade. It's more lucrative than mining shit out of the ground.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 22, 2021 01:07 PM (ecYxZ)

THIS. China will buy up the drug routes. This is where the money is. And they'll use this leverage to accrue the minerals and other resources.
Posted by: Justsayin' at August 22, 2021 01:21 PM (Fs5vw)

And they'll help make junkies of what remains of the white working class and the black underclass.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:24 PM (mR6Gs)

54 The russians tried to control the cities, I don't think the commies will do that. They will probably buy Bahgram AF base for a song.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2021 01:24 PM (r+sAi)

55 You'll be surprised at what millions of women and kids armed with spoons can accomplish.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 22, 2021 01:20 PM (guGkK)

Oh, it's a jobs program.

Posted by: Milton Freidman at August 22, 2021 01:24 PM (F0YaR)

56 Biden is forcing US airliners to bail him out and go to Afghanistant to get people out. I'm old enough to remember when the MSM would be up in arms over this as a gross abuse of power by the executive. But I guess now that property rights no longer mean anything via the rent moratorium, why stop there? Just nationalize United and Delta and get it over with.

Posted by: Green Peace and 100 Other Soros Backed Organizations at August 22, 2021 01:24 PM (GQ5VU)

57 Off Soros Funded sock

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 22, 2021 01:24 PM (GQ5VU)

58 Biden is forcing US airliners to bail him out and go to Afghanistant to get people out

**

Wow. Imagine what kind of deals Biden must have made with the terrorists.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:25 PM (wqFd7)

59 37 C Demon

Agreed. Exactly.

Of all places on earth, Afghanistan more than any other stands for the proposition that "It's NEVER different."

Posted by: mnw at August 22, 2021 01:25 PM (Cssks)

60 Why do left wing woke women in America love Sharia Law?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 01:13 PM (Irn0L)

Because it isn't Judeo-Christian, and because they don't have to live under it.

Yet.

Posted by: Bete at August 22, 2021 01:26 PM (Ojki1)

61 Why did people wait so long to get the heck out of Afghanistan? We all knew last year that we were leaving the country so why did so many people stay until the last minute?

Posted by: Ron at August 22, 2021 01:27 PM (pOrFv)

62 Why do left wing woke women in America love Sharia Law?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 01:13 PM (Irn0L)

___

Same reason gays love Muslims.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 22, 2021 01:27 PM (GQ5VU)

63 Saw C-17's dropping flares on takeoff just in case, I don't remember United or Delta having that capability.63

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2021 01:27 PM (r+sAi)

64 By now the Chinese have probably 'mined' the equipment left by the US. Most they probably know all about, but they will pay (if they have to) the Taliban to get access to the computers/radios and ship them back to China.

Posted by: Colin at August 22, 2021 01:27 PM (UjUGH)

65 Why do left wing woke women in America love Sharia Law?

**

They know it will piss off their daddies.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:27 PM (wqFd7)

66 Paul Revere lives on... in Australia.

https://twitter.com/DPoertsch/status/1429390856826593281

Posted by: Biden's Dog at August 22, 2021 01:27 PM (RBYzW)

67 They just created a disease and told no one as it propagated around the world. No response from the world.
--------

Any Karen will exhibit far more anger towards a non-mask wearer, than they do towards China. There are still bodies of Dems who believe that only xenophobic racists would blame China for this.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 22, 2021 01:27 PM (WLHrn)

68 Biden is forcing US airliners to bail him out and go to Afghanistant to get people out.

Dunkirk was much better organized.

If I didn't know better, I'd suspect that Biden's handlers are just making up this shitshow as they go along.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 22, 2021 01:28 PM (guGkK)

69 58 Biden is forcing US airliners to bail him out and go to Afghanistant to get people out

**

Wow. Imagine what kind of deals Biden must have made with the terrorists.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:25 PM (wqFd7)

I don't think the US airlines are flying into Afghanistan. They're going to be used in places like Qatar, UAE, etc...where the military flights out of Kabul have been taking people. They'll then shuttle them who knows where.

Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2021 01:28 PM (cF8AT)

70 The numbers on exploiting A'stan's mineral wealth may not be as hard and favorable as seems to be assumed. As noted by others, this would be a pretty capital-intensive activity in a country with minimal infrastructure. The actual economic viability of exploitation, including the composition and configuration of the ores, may not have been documented to the point needed to invest zillions.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 22, 2021 01:28 PM (OTzUX)

71 Liberty Daily is selling a t-shirt that says..... I don't need sex. The government screws me every day.

Posted by: four seasons at August 22, 2021 01:28 PM (PisyI)

72 Why did people wait so long to get the heck out of Afghanistan?

**

You don't just walk away from $45K/month with zero job expectations, friend.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:28 PM (wqFd7)

73 Oh and I will have a FWP about my stupid keyboard next time that thread is posted.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2021 01:29 PM (r+sAi)

74 so why did so many people stay until the last minute?

Posted by: Ron at August 22, 2021 01:27 PM (pOrFv)

They were over there making 6 to 7 figures on military contracts paid for by your tax dollars.

And now they are crying save me.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 22, 2021 01:29 PM (7F9te)

75 Tami is correct. Activated airline assets will be for ferrying bodies from collection/vetting points outside A'stan, not for the exciting flights from HKIA.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 22, 2021 01:29 PM (OTzUX)

76 It isn't that Asscrackistan is unconquerable, it's that when conquerors look around, they ask, "What the fuck are we doing in this shithole?"

That's not supposed to be funny. It's fact. The Mongols kicked the shit out of the Afghans, looked around, saw what they got for their trouble and left. The same can be said about all the others.

It's not worth fighting for. It is a piece of shit. And the Taliban is hardly Afghan. It's Shia and Sunni muzzies showing up to fight the Great Satan.

People understand nothing

Posted by: Uncle Rick at August 22, 2021 01:29 PM (56PnC)

77 There is noway to interact with the left, so their influence must be eradicated--not merely muted.

Furthermore, they must be purged from the country, and at this stage, I couldn't care less how.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 22, 2021 01:30 PM (KATBx)

78 I don't think the US airlines are flying into Afghanistan. They're going to be used in places like Qatar, UAE, etc...where the military flights out of Kabul have been taking people. They'll then shuttle them who knows where.
Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2021 01:28 PM (cF8AT)

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Yeah, one has to wonder how many young pro-Muslim / pro-Taliban men are taking free vacations this way.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:30 PM (wqFd7)

79 I think the aircraft dispensing flares was a French transport. Don't know if that was automatic (as it often is), or triggered by detection of tracking activity/radar.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 22, 2021 01:30 PM (OTzUX)

80 That SOB Trump screwed things up so bad, now we have asked the Airlines for help.

Yo Joe, Why do we use electric cars to get the people out instead of enlarging our carbon footprint ?????

You are not helping with fighting global climate change by using dirty, filthy, polluting aircraft with carbon based fuel !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 01:30 PM (24+Vp)

81 Tami is correct. Activated airline assets will be for ferrying bodies from collection/vetting points outside A'stan, not for the exciting flights from HKIA.
Posted by: rhomboid
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Yep.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 01:30 PM (UH+Nl)

82 @POTUS

Today at 4 PM ET I will address the nation on my Administration's response to Tropical Storm Henri, and give an update on the evacuation of American citizens, SIV applicants and their families, and vulnerable Afghans.
And also ice cream...I'd like to talk about ice cream.

Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2021 01:30 PM (cF8AT)

83 72 You don't just walk away from $45K/month with zero job expectations, friend.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:28 PM (wqFd7)

Dude here gets it--Afghanistan may be an epic 20 year catastrofuck but it's been yugely profitable for Karen the NGO "worker" and Billy the tacticool operator.

Posted by: CppThis at August 22, 2021 01:30 PM (UewuT)

84 Among the many problems with shadow government by Commitee is no one is publically accountable. It's fun to pull strings behind the scenes but no one has the individual incentive to make sure to sweat the details because their name/ass/reputation/legacy is on the line.

So you have a lazy, senile dope being fed lots of stupid/half-baked leftist project, and when it all goes to shit everyone in the background just melts away.

And yet this could lead to a hot war with nuclear Chyna if they are emboldened by our obvious ineptitude and weakness. I hope this is not how history writes it.

Posted by: Zek at August 22, 2021 01:31 PM (w/5KC)

85 74 so why did so many people stay until the last minute?

Posted by: Ron at August 22, 2021 01:27 PM (pOrFv)

They were over there making 6 to 7 figures on military contracts paid for by your tax dollars.

And now they are crying save me.

Me
You could learn a lot by paying attention to this post

Posted by: Uncle Rick at August 22, 2021 01:31 PM (56PnC)

86 The US airliners won't fly to Kabul. (as of now) They'll fly to our bases at Doha and the Emirates to move Kabul evacuees to the US.

Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 01:31 PM (AMIL/)

87 Dunkirk was much better organized.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 22, 2021 01:28 PM (guGkK)
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Hence, what's going on now has already been named "Dumkirk".

Posted by: Biden's Dog at August 22, 2021 01:31 PM (RBYzW)

88 Am I allowed to say that the two nations deserve each other? Or that I'm rooting for injuries?

Posted by: pookysgirl, just wondering at August 22, 2021 01:32 PM (XKZwp)

89 They'll then shuttle them who knows where.
Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2021 01:28 PM (cF8AT)

You know where.

Posted by: Golfman at August 22, 2021 01:32 PM (hOMhY)

90 Paul Revere lives on... in Australia.

https://twitter.com/DPoertsch/status/1429390856826593281
Posted by: Biden's Dog at August 22, 2021 01:27 PM (RBYzW)

They'll point him out to the authorities

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:32 PM (mR6Gs)

91 @65 Moron Robbie-Because sharia law is MASCULINE and enforced by MEN unlike the emasculated males feminism has created. This is why "woke" women in America like sharia law.

Posted by: JROD at August 22, 2021 01:32 PM (0jZnq)

92 I hope these airliners don't go into Joe Biden Islamic International Airport. The risk and danger is enormous for one to be hit by a US produced SAM or RPG......

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 01:32 PM (24+Vp)

93 so if the china takes over A-stan, do we support the taliban again like when the USSR was there in the 80s??

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 22, 2021 01:33 PM (bTQ72)

94 77 There is noway to interact with the left, so their influence must be eradicated--not merely muted.

Furthermore, they must be purged from the country, and at this stage, I couldn't care less how.

Me:
The 'left' is nothing without the media. They are the enemy of all humanity.

They need to be eradicated

Posted by: Uncle Rick at August 22, 2021 01:33 PM (56PnC)

95 Ah yes... forget my earlier airline comment, I was misinformed, by myself. I will have a talk with him and me.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2021 01:34 PM (r+sAi)

96 They'll point him out to the authorities
Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:32 PM (mR6Gs)
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"... and your little horse, too!"

Posted by: Biden's Dog at August 22, 2021 01:34 PM (RBYzW)

97 You don't just walk away from $45K/month with zero job expectations, friend.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:28 PM (wqFd7)

With the lives of me and my family at stake, I certainly do.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:34 PM (mR6Gs)

98 The US airliners won't fly to Kabul. (as of now) They'll fly to our bases at Doha and the Emirates to move Kabul evacuees to the US.
Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 01:31 PM (AMIL/)

State Department says don't worry about 100,000 Afghans being airlifted to their new homes in the U.S. They're all flying coach.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 22, 2021 01:34 PM (guGkK)

99
Yeah, one has to wonder how many young pro-Muslim / pro-Taliban men are taking free vacations this way.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:30 PM (wqFd7)

The cynic in me says this was the plan

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:35 PM (mR6Gs)

100 ...It's not worth fighting for. It is a piece of shit. And the Taliban is hardly Afghan. It's Shia and Sunni muzzies showing up to fight the Great Satan.

People understand nothing

Posted by: Uncle Rick at August 22, 2021 01:29 PM (56PnC)

We do. Welcome, infidels, to death or Islam. There are no substitutes.

Posted by: The Taliban at August 22, 2021 01:35 PM (F0YaR)

101 >>Any Karen will exhibit far more anger towards a non-mask wearer, than they do towards China. There are still bodies of Dems who believe that only xenophobic racists would blame China for this.

Just as they care a great deal more about the wellbeing of (unvetted) Afghan refugees than their fellow Americans who voted for Trump and/or who are unvaxxed. "Die, stupid science-hating white nationalist - you made your choice" vs. "We must save all the men who have kept their wives enslaved and raped children ~~despite them choosing not to stop the Taliban~~ because we CARE so darn much!"

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 01:35 PM (bDqIh)

102 The US airliners won't fly to Kabul. (as of now) They'll fly to our bases at Doha and the Emirates to move Kabul evacuees to the US.
Posted by: Gref
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Hell, I say that we just deplane them, and leave. Why not there, rather than here?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 22, 2021 01:36 PM (KfC1e)

103 A flight from Doha to New Jersey full of Afghan peasants. Can you imagine what the onboard lavatories will look like after that.

"Clean it? No, take the plane over there and just set it on fire."

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 22, 2021 01:36 PM (kTF2Z)

104 Biden is forcing US airliners to bail him out and go to Afghanistant to get people out.

Actually no...He is forcing them to go to the intermediate stop over points, to fetch the "refugees" to bring them stateside so the US Air Force can concentrate only on bringing people from Kabul to the stop over points

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 01:36 PM (Irn0L)

105 WHAT IF: Joe and Kamala resign together, in a grand show of "taking responsibility" so President Pelosi as the good steward of our Democracy can reconstitute our government and continue her work of cleansing our Republic of the last stains of Trumpism?

I wouldn't put it past them. Throw in some CNN/Netflix/Amazon $ and I think both Joe and Kamala would find their price.

Posted by: Zek at August 22, 2021 01:37 PM (w/5KC)

106 fuckin Rs want refugees no matter what

Austrailia has taken like 80 refugees so far

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 22, 2021 01:37 PM (bTQ72)

107 I guess we can absorb 5-10 thousand translators and other allies and their IMMEDIATE families, but when the dust settles, it will be a couple hundred thousand, spread out all over the red states.

And NO ONE is saying a word about this. Everyone is afraid.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:37 PM (mR6Gs)

108 So much for worrying about COVID and wearing are precious masks and maintaining 6 feet ..........

Evac everyone whether they are in infected or not..... Time to tell the all these government idiots to muck off and follow leaders like Ron DeSantis, etc....

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 01:38 PM (24+Vp)

109 106 fuckin Rs want refugees no matter what

Austrailia has taken like 80 refugees so far

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 22, 2021 01:37 PM (bTQ72)

People were coming to rescue them but they shot them before the rescuers got there....80 got away.

/s

Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2021 01:38 PM (cF8AT)

110 Well one thing's for sure, we've got to completely change the approach to all things military, so that there's not a dime of profit in any aspect (I guess actual soldiers will still be paid) of any conflict.

Govt. arsenals must be reinstituted to produce *all* military hardware and technology (off-the-shelf buys will be verboten - possibility someone will make a dime off of that) on a non-profit basis. Zero defense industry.

No ex-military from private to 4-star can be allowed to participate in any way in any form of military-related activity after service. Except on a voluntary basis, no pay or profit.

That and imposing a 2-month "exit strategy" time limit on any military action should do it. Oh, and FFS get rid of the expeditionary forces (bye bye USMC, except for 2 MEUs for embassy evacuation, which should be a robust business). And reduce the armed forces by about 75%, to provide for actual defense of CONUS.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at August 22, 2021 01:38 PM (OTzUX)

111
Yeah, one has to wonder how many young pro-Muslim / pro-Taliban men are taking free vacations this way.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:30 PM (wqFd7)

Probably a lot. But probably less than how many Chinese students are coming here to swipe info and infiltrate institutions. A lot of Afghans have been killed by the taliban, these are no "huddled masses yearning to breathe free" but still traveling back and forth from China on student visas or getting "citizenships" in order to work for the NSA. At this point we can't tell how many of the "translators" were working for the taliban, but we can assume all the Chinese (or Iranians for that matter) are pre-approved by their regimes.
The Afghan former president who took millions has an American daughter who seems pretty assimilated.

Posted by: CN at August 22, 2021 01:38 PM (ONvIw)

112 Today at 4 PM ET I will address the nation on my Administration's response to Tropical Storm Henri

A Federal response to a rain storm. Gotta love it.

Posted by: t-bird at August 22, 2021 01:38 PM (AytXr)

113 It all makes perfect nonsense. Perfect.

Posted by: klaftern at August 22, 2021 01:39 PM (r4sI4)

114 103 A flight from Doha to New Jersey full of Afghan peasants. Can you imagine what the onboard lavatories will look like after that.

"Clean it? No, take the plane over there and just set it on fire."
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 22, 2021 01:36 PM (kTF2Z)

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That's only the first leg. The second leg is from NJ to Miami or Dallas or Boise and every other city in red/purple states.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 22, 2021 01:39 PM (GQ5VU)

115 Kameltoe isn't resigning even for a offer she can't refuse

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 01:40 PM (znIQ9)

116 I guess we can absorb 5-10 thousand translators and other allies and their IMMEDIATE families, but when the dust settles, it will be a couple hundred thousand, spread out all over the red states.

Pfft. That's about two month's worth of New Americans coming in through the sieve they used to call our southern border. To quote a very charming and intelligent lady, "at this point, what difference does it make?"

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 22, 2021 01:40 PM (guGkK)

117 Today at 4 PM ET I will address the nation on my Administration's response to Tropical Storm Henri

A Federal response to a rain storm. Gotta love it.
Posted by: t-bird at August 22, 2021 01:38 PM (AytXr)

Sundown is not even qualified to give an update on a lemonade stand

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 01:40 PM (Irn0L)

118 General Tso is planning military action.
He's no chicken.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 22, 2021 01:40 PM (vuisn)

119 112 Today at 4 PM ET I will address the nation on my Administration's response to Tropical Storm Henri

A Federal response to a rain storm. Gotta love it.
Posted by: t-bird at August 22, 2021 01:38 PM (AytXr)

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Sir,

This storm was awful. I lost internet connection for 3 hours. That's 3 hours where I couldn't let the world know my every thought on Twitter. How dare you minimize my suffering!!!

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 22, 2021 01:40 PM (GQ5VU)

120 Problem with mining ore is that it requires vast investment in fixed infrastructure which then has to be maintained and defended. Building & maintaining this infrastructure, operating the mines, driving trucks & trains, etc. requires a lot of manpower.

The high altitude mountain terrain and cloud cover removes the modern advantages of armor, air power & artillery. Firing arcs are blocked, it's difficult to transit through peaks and valleys without using ambush prone roads or tunnels, etc. Figure in the difficulty of building the roads & rails.

I get the feeling that the CCP will wind up coming to the same conclusion as everyone else. Afghanistan isn't worth conquering. There's not enough of a return on investment between the terrain and the whack a mole-hide-in-cave-never-give up insurgents. The CCP's friendly relationship with Pakistan isn't in the tribal regions bordering Afghanistan. It would be cheaper & easier to buy off the more civilized and similarly resourced Stans to the north than dealing with shit neighbors to the south.

Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at August 22, 2021 01:41 PM (TEWKg)

121 "China takes what it needs and will protect its interests"

And @22:

Both correct. The Afghanis, including the most Westernized, preferred their indigenous Taliban to the even more depraved Woke Taliban, which obviously is hated and despised here as well.

The PRC will not try to promote Marxism or Confuciunism or any other foreign ideology on the people of Afghanistan. It probably wouldn't have, anyhow, but the historic defeated of the United States just drove that point home.

Just as the Taliban toppled the Woke Empire's puppet government in Kabul, we can destroy the Woke Empire's puppet regime in D.C. albeit with different, non-violent tactics. Fortunately we have options other than the Taliban. Distancing ourselves from this ludicrous oppression and marginalizing it has to be the primary method to prevail.

The Woke Empire's just got a good taste of how much its insane beliefs are despised. It will in due time implode.

Afghanistan was a horror for the American people and will prove a mineral-rich bonanza for the PRC. But we can take some comfort in the fact the Woke Taliban is hated and can be defeated in the most humiliating fashion possible.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 22, 2021 01:41 PM (qpXD6)

122 We have plenty of lithium and rare earths in our western states. We just need to tell the greenies to get bent.

Posted by: clutch at August 22, 2021 01:41 PM (9UmRs)

123 >>Liberty Daily is selling a t-shirt that says..... I don't need sex. The government screws me every day.

Identifies as "Fedqueer?"

*(since it's a BOHICA situation)

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 01:41 PM (bDqIh)

124 Is Slo Joe in Delaware?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2021 01:41 PM (r+sAi)

125 117 Today at 4 PM ET I will address the nation on my Administration's response to Tropical Storm Henri

A Federal response to a rain storm. Gotta love it.
Posted by: t-bird at August 22, 2021 01:38 PM (AytXr)

Sundown is not even qualified to give an update on a lemonade stand
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 01:40 PM (Irn0L)
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Wear the sunglasses, Joe! Wear the sunglasses!

Posted by: Weasel at August 22, 2021 01:41 PM (MVjcR)

126 so if the china takes over A-stan, do we support the taliban again like when the USSR was there in the 80s??

We never supported the Taliban.

The faction that would later become the Taliban worked with Pakistan in the 80s. The faction the US supported became the Northern Alliance.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:42 PM (DpkTQ)

127 Is Slo Joe in Delaware?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2021 01:41 PM (r+sAi)

no, but shooosh, don't tell him, he thinks he is

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 01:42 PM (Irn0L)

128 I think we should give priority to gays of color infected with COVID to celebrate diversity....

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 01:43 PM (24+Vp)

129
sure bring people here, who the US soldiers had to tell them that if they wanted their wife to get pregnant, stop f*cking her in the butthole

Posted by: will choose a nic later at August 22, 2021 01:43 PM (bTQ72)

130
Hell, I say that we just deplane them, and leave. Why not there, rather than here?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 22, 2021 01:36 P

This.

we got them out, there's no reason to bring them here

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 22, 2021 01:43 PM (DUIap)

131 >>A Federal response to a rain storm. Gotta love it.

Well, yeah, it's hitting the Acela corridor.
If it were hitting the South it would be *yawn*

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 01:43 PM (bDqIh)

132 There will still be Americans who refuse to believe they're going to be goat fucked, beheaded and/or both. They are soldiers of fortune, researchers and educators who believe they are "safe" because they're smarter than the locals, they're in with the locals, or they think they know the situation on the ground isn't all that bad.

These idiots number in the thousands, many undocumented by the State Department. The "evacuee" bullshit will continue for months, perhaps well into next year as these retards realize they're well and truly fucked.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 22, 2021 01:43 PM (BFigT)

133 Send them all to Delaware to eat ice cream with uncle Joe........

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 01:44 PM (24+Vp)

134 Make no mistake.
This tropical storm Henri.
Will not stand. It will not stand.
It must not stand. Must not.
Truimmmphalprssure....

And we will do the hard work it takes.
Because that's who we are as Americans.
May God bless you and God bless America.
Now I better leave because I'll be in trouble if I stay for questions
[bumps into wall]

Posted by: Joe's Glorious Address to the Nation at August 22, 2021 01:44 PM (w/5KC)

135 Will sundown somehow blame PDT for the storm?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 01:45 PM (Irn0L)

136 It is telling their is NO discussion among the Wokenistas and the Nat Sec folks about Woke Imperialism.

Ann Coulter got partially cancelled for suggesting we convert Afghanistan to Christianity. And obviously we just tried to convert them to the Woke religion.

And...there are now a few thousands Christians in 'Stan facing death for their beliefs. I'm guessing their are NO LGBT activists. Interesting that no?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:45 PM (DpkTQ)

137 Yeah, right! IF they somehow managed to fuckin' get to the airport, you NOW want them to go home?! I swear to God....

https://tinyurl.com/ygueaysv

Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2021 01:45 PM (cF8AT)

138 Is the G7 meeting this week virtual or in person?

If in person, biden will meltdown. He can't sleep well at the WH, he has had to have press conferences this week and he has to be od'ing on the drug cocktail use from last week.

Posted by: four seasons at August 22, 2021 01:45 PM (PisyI)

139 Biden: Today i m sending C-17s to New England to evacuate all people affected by the Global Climate Change storm and relocate them to Afghanistan.

Biden: No questions please because it is ice cream time and I need to take Pup-pup for a walk to pee....

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 01:46 PM (24+Vp)

140 It's either a response to DJT or more Covid bull shit

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 01:46 PM (znIQ9)

141 If we had an independent press, and they asked some of the evacuees "why did you stay until the last minute?" I bet a common answer would be, "I believed Biden and Milley".

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:46 PM (DpkTQ)

142 Yeah, right! IF they somehow managed to fuckin' get to the airport, you NOW want them to go home?! I swear to God....

https://tinyurl.com/ygueaysv
Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2021 01:45 PM (cF8AT)

Chaos. Absolute chaos.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 22, 2021 01:47 PM (guGkK)

143 This was Trump's plan Biden was implementing, so this all Trumps's fault ...........

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 01:47 PM (24+Vp)

144 Miss me yet?

Posted by: Jimmy Carter at August 22, 2021 01:48 PM (guGkK)

145 Will sundown somehow blame PDT for the storm?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 01:45 PM (Irn0L)

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I got a couple of shekels says he mentions the Paris accords.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 22, 2021 01:49 PM (kTF2Z)

146
I get the feeling that the CCP will wind up coming to the same conclusion as everyone else. Afghanistan isn't worth conquering. There's not enough of a return on investment between the terrain and the whack a mole-hide-in-cave-never-give up insurgents. The CCP's friendly relationship with Pakistan isn't in the tribal regions bordering Afghanistan. It would be cheaper & easier to buy off the more civilized and similarly resourced Stans to the north than dealing with shit neighbors to the south.
Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at August 22, 2021 01:41 PM (TEWKg)

You forget that the Chinese can flood any route or routes with hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers. Quantity over quality sometimes has it's advantages.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 22, 2021 01:49 PM (Fs5vw)

147 How freaking hard is it for someone in the administration to tell the military to expand their zone around the airport?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 22, 2021 01:49 PM (r+sAi)

148 Actually no...He is forcing them to go to the intermediate stop over points, to fetch the "refugees"

All you need is a blank visa and you're good to go.

Posted by: t-bird at August 22, 2021 01:49 PM (DMQdU)

149 Biden's speech:

Can you believe how President Trump just left these people to rot in Iraq?

I mean, I know he had to do something about 9/11. But President Trump, come on, you have to take care of our people.

President...uh...President?...Uh...Senator Obama and I will not stand for this. And if you elect us we will reverse everything George Trump is doing. My word as a Biden.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:50 PM (DpkTQ)

150 If we had an independent press, and they asked some of the evacuees "why did you stay until the last minute?" I bet a common answer would be,

"Because that's when the free flights to America started"

Posted by: t-bird at August 22, 2021 01:51 PM (DMQdU)

151 https://tinyurl.com/ygueaysv
Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2021 01:45 PM (cF8AT)

When the State Department says something, it means just what they chose it to mean, nothing more nor less...

Posted by: Boswell at August 22, 2021 01:51 PM (5iUNf)

152 China released a new virus in India. The cover up called it a Delta variant.

Fight me !

Posted by: Just a side note at August 22, 2021 01:52 PM (2DOZq)

153 Half a million chinese soldiers died in Korea. And realistically any number less then that and they won't care.

But...I don't expect to see China going to war in 'Stan. They'll buy off whoever they need to and just guard the resource extraction points. Sure, they lose a few thousand doing this...but they don't care, at all, about that level of losses.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:52 PM (DpkTQ)

154 Now that the Tollybon have us by the short hairs I'd bet they've already told Joe that if we take one step outside Hamid Karzai airport they off thousands of Americans in a day. Not that we shouldn't call that bluff, but we've (they've) really given them some leverage.

Posted by: Zek at August 22, 2021 01:53 PM (w/5KC)

155 146 You forget that the Chinese can flood any route or routes with hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers. Quantity over quality sometimes has it's advantages.
Posted by: Justsayin' at August 22, 2021 01:49 PM (Fs5vw)

"Da, comrade. And this is why glorious Soviet adventurism will succeed where other adventurisms did not!"

Posted by: CppThis at August 22, 2021 01:53 PM (UewuT)

156 Everybody conquers Afghanistan because they think it's location is strategic. Then after 20 to 100 years, they remember that it is a shithole and find some other why to advance their interests.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 22, 2021 01:53 PM (yQpMk)

157 Tropical Storm Henri

**

That's a weird way to spell Henry.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:53 PM (wqFd7)

158 If we had an independent press, and they asked some of the evacuees "why did you stay until the last minute?" I bet a common answer would be,

"Because that's when the free flights to America started"
Posted by: t-bird at August 22, 2021 01:51 PM (DMQdU)

Last minute would have been August 31. Biden move the timeline up.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 22, 2021 01:53 PM (2DOZq)

159 By the way, only about 10K Soviets died in 'Stan.

China sees that number and laughs.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:53 PM (DpkTQ)

160 We never supported the Taliban.

The faction that would later become the Taliban worked with Pakistan in the 80s. The faction the US supported became the Northern Alliance.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:42 PM (DpkTQ)

Thanks for pointing this out.
I'm sick of everyone claiming Reagan-- or the CIA ( though I might not put it past them today) "created" the taliban

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:54 PM (mR6Gs)

161 You forget that the Chinese can flood any route or routes with hundreds of thousands of Chinese soldiers. Quantity over quality sometimes has it's advantages.
Posted by: Justsayin' at August 22, 2021 01:49 PM (Fs5vw)

"Da, comrade. And this is why glorious Soviet adventurism will succeed where other adventurisms did not!"
Posted by: CppThis

It's not so much quantity as ruthlessness. China will simply erase a village and not give a damn what the world thinks.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2021 01:54 PM (OCTRt)

162 All you need is a blank visa and you're good to go.

**

Blank COVID documentation = bad

Blank visa = good

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 01:54 PM (wqFd7)

163 @136:

Woke Imperialism is exactly right, and like most fanatics its adherents will learn nothing from their humiliating defeat. Ridicule and marginalize them and then go for the kill shot.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 22, 2021 01:55 PM (qpXD6)

164 According to the Daily Mail (Hey, its at least as reliable as the 3-letter networks in the US) -

Biden's aids were "too afraid" to speak up and quiz him and Sullivan on key decisions leading up to the Afghan pull-out.

Too afraid of a dementia-addled guy who eats paste? Wow, that says a lot about the current administration.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 22, 2021 01:56 PM (D3cJf)

165 For the record, the Greeks DID conquer 'Stan.

Or as well as we can tell. Conquering was a bit different back then. I'm your king now bitches! Well, ok, Alexander is actually your king, but if you don't do what I say I'll still kill you. Also, I married the last guy's daughter.

Which, mind you is the same deal they had with the guy who came before the Greek guy.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:56 PM (DpkTQ)

166 "All they will do is strip the Afghans of their wealth"

The wealth of any country is largely in its human capital. Afghanistan hasn't much to strip. Anyone who mines and drills in areas of low human capital could be said to be 'stripping' these places of their wealth. The non-stripping course of action would be to leave the stuff in the ground until the social system of the country in question could generate from it's indigenous population to exploit those minerals without foreign direct investment.

Posted by: Art Deco at August 22, 2021 01:56 PM (1BrBu)

167 How are we going to get our military out of that shithole?

Posted by: four seasons at August 22, 2021 01:56 PM (PisyI)

168 Now that the Tollybon have us by the short hairs I'd bet they've already told Joe that if we take one step outside Hamid Karzai airport they off thousands of Americans in a day. Not that we shouldn't call that bluff, but we've (they've) really given them some leverage.
Posted by: Zek at August 22, 2021 01:53 PM (w/5KC)

And that's why Biden's people look shell-shocked. They know that if this happens, no amount of media blowing is going to cover up the death of one American, let alone hundreds.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:56 PM (mR6Gs)

169 @IntelDoge 4m

According to @LucasFoxNews, a U.S. Air Force F-15E shot down an Iranian drone over eastern #Syria that was flying "too close" to some of the 900 U.S. troops stationed at Omar Oil Field.

Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2021 01:56 PM (cF8AT)

170 @13 "Why will the Taliban invite the Chinese in while the latter are committing atrocities and cultural genocide against the Uighurs?"

My bet is that the Taliban, who are middle east Muslims, will not care at all about the Uighurs if the Chinese pay them or otherwise support them enough. Yes the Uighurs are Muslim, but they are Asians, not the same people as the Talibs.

Posted by: George V at August 22, 2021 01:57 PM (U2Tva)

171 By the way Masood's kid is trying to restart the Northern Alliance.

Real smart of us to not leave the weapons we left there in his province wasn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:57 PM (DpkTQ)

172 If Kamala Harris was smart, she'd bail on that shit job and resigin because who the fuck would want to inherit Saigon Joe's failures? It's a total shitshow.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 22, 2021 01:57 PM (ecYxZ)

173 @sarkastichumour

Aargh! What the heck!

https://tinyurl.com/yedl87s7

Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2021 01:58 PM (cF8AT)

174 You don't come to power in Dem circles by finding a way to stand out from the Dem party line.

Kamal Toe will say *nothing* about 'Stan until she's told what she's supposed to say.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:59 PM (DpkTQ)

175 For the record, the Greeks DID conquer 'Stan.

Or as well as we can tell. Conquering was a bit different back then. I'm your king now bitches! Well, ok, Alexander is actually your king, but if you don't do what I say I'll still kill you. Also, I married the last guy's daughter.

Which, mind you is the same deal they had with the guy who came before the Greek guy.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:56 PM (DpkTQ)

Steven Pressfield's book Afghan Campaign is a pretty good historical fiction novel.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 22, 2021 01:59 PM (2DOZq)

176 The US State Department this week: "You are free to come, you are free to stay, you are free to flee, you are free to hide where you want, you are free to order the #4 with brown rice or white rice, you are free to spread your wings and fly like an eagle to the sea - but mostly you are free to die. Hey, we just give advice...did we mention that you are free to do whatever?"

Posted by: Boswell at August 22, 2021 01:59 PM (5iUNf)

177 As a poster mentioned above, I do believe that Russia would think it's advantageous for them to be allied with the USA.
In his weird way, Putin probably DID prefer Trump to Biden. At least he knew where he and Russia stood in Trump's calculus and that's a kind of stability that Russian's like.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 01:59 PM (mR6Gs)

178 The military will transport a couple thousand allies to the UAE, and then the airlines will transport those 100,000 here.

Posted by: t-bird at August 22, 2021 01:59 PM (CTJwJ)

179 "Send us all your worst people. Your wretched refuse, even."

-- Emma Fucking Lazarus

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 22, 2021 02:00 PM (OssQ4)

180 China won't be teaching diversity or lecturing them why they shouldn't throw gays from roof tops.
But they will help them enhance their opium trade.

Afghanistan and China may get along well.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 22, 2021 02:01 PM (pXrUp)

181 When we getting Hurricane Sparkle?

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 02:01 PM (znIQ9)

182 If Kamala Harris was smart, she'd bail on that shit job and resigin because who the fuck would want to inherit Saigon Joe's failures? It's a total shitshow.
Posted by: Dr. Bone

She doesnt want to be 1st Mate on the POS Biden Adventure? Now that's uppity!

Posted by: Rex B at August 22, 2021 02:01 PM (43PWs)

183 Steven Pressfield's book Afghan Campaign is a pretty good historical fiction novel.
Posted by: Just a side note at August 22, 2021 01:59 PM (2DOZq)

I was just bout the say the same thing. The Afghans were absolutely brutal even before Islam came along. pretty good read, though. But I hear some of Pressfield's more recent stuff is sub-par. I did like "Killing Rommel," though.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, In the Field at August 22, 2021 02:02 PM (4l77G)

184 The US State Department this week: "You are free to come, you are free to stay, you are free to flee, you are free to hide where you want, you are free to order the #4 with brown rice or white rice, you are free to spread your wings and fly like an eagle to the sea - but mostly you are free to die. Hey, we just give advice...did we mention that you are free to do whatever?"
Posted by: Boswell at August 22, 2021 01:59 PM (5iUNf)

I did NOT trust that formulation, "....any American who WANTS to leave, can." What American WOULDN'T want to leave?
It's almost as if they are setting up some future CYA scenario

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:02 PM (mR6Gs)

185 China doesn't "nation build."
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China has been very sly in how it is colonizing the planet. For the First World they dangled their vast consumer markets as bait to Western economies and once hooked they hollowed them out via technology transfers/theft and their ever expanding manufacturing base. In the Third World, they used this new wealth via its Belt and Roads program, a very clever method of colonization because it doesn't require much military effort, to strip mine the planet for natural resources needed to feed their economic, political, and military build out.

If they move on Afghanistan, most likely when, they will also be playing a long game. Their march to today began with Nixon in 1972 and in earnest in 1979 when Deng Xiaoping came to the US. I doubt they will lose focus and nation build. And if events go off the rails the Taliban and the world will find out just how ruthless the Chicoms are willing to be. How that plays out will be a warning to all other nations if the Chicoms become the dominant force on the planet. Our not so excellent Afghani adventure now ending with what will be Biden's legacy very well could set off a global power reordering.

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 02:02 PM (ESLBo)

186 179 "Send us all your worst people. Your wretched refuse, even."

-- Emma Fucking Lazarus
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 22, 2021 02:00 PM (OssQ4)

And many people think that somehow she is a great standard bearer. Her daddy was one of the big Swill Milk Scandal men. She didn't worry too much about the children he killed, or the slaves working on his partner's sugar plantation (which he may have co-owned). She's a pre-limousine lib who didn't practice what she preached.

Posted by: CN at August 22, 2021 02:03 PM (ONvIw)

187 china always plays the long game. Probably better than any other nation or culture.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, In the Field at August 22, 2021 02:03 PM (4l77G)

188 There. I've just exhausted my intellectual input. Back to dumb jokes.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, In the Field at August 22, 2021 02:04 PM (4l77G)

189 >>Biden's aids were "too afraid" to speak up and quiz him and Sullivan on key decisions leading up to the Afghan pull-out.

Then what is their value? Fire them.
Did some of them leak this thinking it would make them look less culpable for the fiasco -- because it's done the opposite.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 02:05 PM (bDqIh)

190 If the Chinese launched an offensive against Taiwan today, and announced that any "interference" by the US would result in use of nuclear weapons, what would our response be?

Posted by: Asking for a friend at August 22, 2021 02:05 PM (w/5KC)

191 China will have no problem getting what they want out.

If America had a WW2 type culture, the place would probably look like Las Vegas after we were done.

Our culture, politics, and media only allow us to fight for real when the homeland is attacked. We could have probably nuked Afghanistan right after 9/11 and gotten away with it.

Posted by: Blago at August 22, 2021 02:05 PM (CA0Ii)

192
"Da, comrade. And this is why glorious Soviet adventurism will succeed where other adventurisms did not!"
Posted by: CppThis at August 22, 2021 01:53 PM (UewuT)

The Russians made the same mistake we did. They thought technology, air power, and industrial might will bring down the Afghans. Thus they sent in a limited amount of soldiers so as not to raise the ire of the UN.

The Chinese can send in a couple of million infantryman and control important regions and routes. I don't think they want to conquer the place.

Plus, you should also realize that the Chinese military won't be hamstrung by ridiculous ROEs.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 22, 2021 02:06 PM (Fs5vw)

193 If the Chinese launched an offensive against Taiwan today, and announced that any "interference" by the US would result in use of nuclear weapons, what would our response be?

**

Now do that same scenario but with the US instead of Taiwan.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) PSA on action you can take if your local school requires masks at August 22, 2021 02:06 PM (wqFd7)

194 It's almost as if they are setting up some future CYA scenario

That's exactly what it is. Notice the verbiage. "Everybody who wants to come home.." uh-huh. Who wants to stay? Why would they even couch it in those terms?

What they are saying also is "anyone who expresses a desire." What this means, if you can't contact the State Department, you don't exist.

Posted by: Common Tater at August 22, 2021 02:07 PM (E5emk)

195 If the Chinese launched an offensive against Taiwan today, and announced that any "interference" by the US would result in use of nuclear weapons, what would our response be?
Posted by: Asking for a friend
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The US Govt would beg for safe passage of our troops in Taiwan to leave the island before hostilities begin.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:07 PM (UH+Nl)

196 188 There. I've just exhausted my intellectual input. Back to dumb jokes - Pug Mahon.

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Did you hear about the two guys that stole a calendar? They each got six months.

Ba Da Boom. Ka Ching. Rim Shot.

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 02:07 PM (ESLBo)

197 If the Chinese launched an offensive against Taiwan today, and announced that any "interference" by the US would result in use of nuclear weapons, what would our response be?
Posted by: Asking for a friend at August 22, 2021 02:05 PM (w/5KC)

The UK would probably jump in and offer to negotiate because our government would be hiding in the basement.

China would take Taiwan, and we'd take 1,000,000 Taiwanese.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:08 PM (mR6Gs)

198 https://www.thenewneo.com/
what was bidens all fired rush to get out of afghanistan

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 02:08 PM (znIQ9)

199 Recently-stated Biden Junta reasons why no one knows how many US civilians are now in A-stan:

- US passport holders are not required to register with the Embassy upon arrival in-country. So State does not know how many were in Afghanistan a week ago.

- US passport holders are not required to notify the Embassy when they leave, even if they registered upon arrival. So, State cannot know how many of the unknown number in-country a week ago are now actually out and safe, because an unknown number have gotten out of Kabul on commercial and charter flights, or by road to Pakistan.

What a mess. The above tells me it was criminal to not order US civilians out before we gave up Bagram and pulled the remaining 2,500 military personnel out. But getting plain old US CITIZENS out safely was not a consideration for Joe until several days ago.

Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 02:08 PM (AMIL/)

200 If the Chinese launched an offensive against Taiwan today, and announced that any "interference" by the US would result in use of nuclear weapons, what would our response be?

**

Now do that same scenario but with the US instead of Taiwan.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

WOLVERINES!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2021 02:09 PM (OCTRt)

201 Did you hear about the two guys that stole a calendar? They each got six months.

Ba Da Boom. Ka Ching. Rim Shot.
Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 02:07 PM (ESLBo)

Two men walk into a bar. Third man ducked under it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, In the Field at August 22, 2021 02:10 PM (4l77G)

202 If the Chinese launched an offensive against Taiwan today, and announced that any "interference" by the US would result in use of nuclear weapons, what would our response be?
Posted by: Asking for a friend

They wouldn't even need to use the threat of nuclear weapons, just call us some names and threaten Disney with not allowing them to release their shit movies on China.

Truthfully, I'm not spending one human life or nickel to protect Taiwainese. These people wouldn't piss on us if we were on fire.

You're on your own, get used to it.

Posted by: Blago at August 22, 2021 02:10 PM (CA0Ii)

203 Where is George Floyd when we need him !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:11 PM (24+Vp)

204 Supposedly...we don't have troops in Taiwan. Taiwan trains their pilots in America.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 02:11 PM (Lln9q)

205 If you added up all the hours Joe spent meeting with military and other advisors, reading relevant materials and planning the Afghan exit strategy it would probably add up to 1/2 a DJT work day.

If there's one thing worse than a stupid fuck it's a lazy, stupid fuck.

Posted by: Zek at August 22, 2021 02:12 PM (w/5KC)

206 >>The above tells me it was criminal to not order US civilians out before we gave up Bagram and pulled the remaining 2,500 military personnel out. But getting plain old US CITIZENS out safely was not a consideration for Joe until several days ago.

If there was one thing that was a priority for Trump that he delivered on, it was getting Americans home safely. Even those college basketball players who were caught misbehaviong, even when they were ungrateful once they landed on US soil. He knew that was an important thing to do, and sent a message to our allies and enemies: we take this personally.

Now Joe is sending the message that it's open season, and the bigger the mess the more he is willing to offer to make it stop.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 02:12 PM (bDqIh)

207 BTW, I hope China brutalizes the Afghan people. Worthless scum.

We should have just leveled it and left by like 2002.

Posted by: Blago at August 22, 2021 02:12 PM (CA0Ii)

208 It's almost as if they are setting up some future CYA scenario
Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:02 PM (mR6Gs)

They're communications are meaningless to Americans trapped there - like handing sand to people stranded in the desert. They nirbble on in State Dept gibberish about filling out forms and about staying or going, all couched in "hey, brah, you are free to do whatevah!"

All Americans who haven't already made a run for the airport, the only valid way out of the country right now, better run now - or everything is lost. Have someone in the US try and coordinate a meet-up with British or Spanish or Italian SFs getting their people out, but don't wait for some stripey pants grandee at State to give you anything but demented slogans at this point...

Posted by: Boswell at August 22, 2021 02:13 PM (5iUNf)

209 The Northern Alliance sounds like something out of a dystopian sci-fi story.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 22, 2021 02:13 PM (KAi1n)

210 191 China will have no problem getting what they want out. If America had a WW2 type culture, the place would probably look like Las Vegas after we were done. Our culture, politics, and media only allow us to fight for real when the homeland is attacked. We could have probably nuked Afghanistan right after 9/11 and gotten away with it. - Blago
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The US went all Carthage on the Axis powers in WWII. Since then we keep trying to win hearts and minds, nation build, and other stupid shit like that. The US, if the game was to nation build, should have flattened Afghanistan first. The Chicoms will not make that error.

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 02:13 PM (ESLBo)

211 We currently advise all American to grow scruffy beards and polish up their Arabic.

Posted by: Your Friendly US State Dept at August 22, 2021 02:14 PM (w/5KC)

212 Joe said: "We get a lot of memos."

Me: Joe, what's your Junta's method of assessing which memos are worthy of consideration and following-up? Stick all of them to a wall, then bring in DOCTOR Jill to throw a half-dozen darts, widely-separated?

Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 02:14 PM (AMIL/)

213 Supposedly...we don't have troops in Taiwan. Taiwan trains its pilots in America.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot
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Guess we're going to find out soon enough.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:14 PM (UH+Nl)

214 The Chinese can send in a couple of million infantryman and control important regions and routes.

How do they get there? Aircraft? Through Pakistan?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 22, 2021 02:15 PM (yQpMk)

215 I despise Representative James E. Clyburn for what he did to this country. South Carolina get rid of this piece of Biden now !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:15 PM (24+Vp)

216 I despise Representative James E. Clyburn for what he did to this country. South Carolina get rid of this piece of Biden now !!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:15 PM (24+Vp)

I wonder how much Clyburn got.
He plucked that old racist Biden out of the abyss.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:16 PM (mR6Gs)

217 Can you help a brother out, airlines? I left $83 billion of military equipment in Afghanistan, so I'm a little short right now.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 22, 2021 02:16 PM (vOGqy)

218 One of the biggest things I miss about Trump is being able to laugh at our president. I supported him from the beginning and still do, but when cofveve happened I laughed my ass off.

Now we're back to not being able to laugh at our president. When I crack wise about Joe's "stutter" or that he's lost his marble, my wife just says "that's terrible." Up here in VT, decent people just do not speak ill of democrats.

Posted by: 496 at August 22, 2021 02:16 PM (U1eOr)

219
If there's one thing worse than a stupid fuck it's a lazy, stupid fuck.

Posted by: Zek at August 22, 2021 02:12 PM (w/5KC)

_________

Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord would differ with you. "Industrious and stupid" is the most dangerous.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 22, 2021 02:17 PM (/U27+)

220 The USA as the World's Police Force has failed every time. Own that one, Powell, Petraeus! Hearts and Minds!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 22, 2021 02:17 PM (ecYxZ)

221 >>BTW, I hope China brutalizes the Afghan people. Worthless scum.

The Afghan people brutalizes the Afghan people. The Taliban are thugs, The warlords we worked with were thugs, just a diffent kind of thug (raping boys instead of women, etc.).
I'm with pollywog'ette is rooting for both sides to lose.

There's an Aghan-made movie called "Osama" that shows life in Aghanistan. GRIM.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 02:18 PM (bDqIh)

222
How do they get there? Aircraft? Through Pakistan?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 22, 2021 02:15 PM (yQpMk)

Hmm. Yeah. The Pakis would never take big money to pay for that privilege.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 22, 2021 02:19 PM (Fs5vw)

223 Theme park...

The 7th Century...play soccer wirh a human head as a ball while riding horses.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 02:19 PM (Lln9q)

224 "If there's one thing worse than a stupid fuck it's a lazy, stupid fuck.

Posted by: Zek at August 22, 2021 02:12 PM (w/5KC)

Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord would differ with you. "Industrious and stupid" is the most dangerous."--Hadrian the Seventh

Well I guess we dodged that one.

Posted by: Zek at August 22, 2021 02:19 PM (w/5KC)

225 How in the Hell is Biden even close to 10% approval. These polls are such BS. What do they do, ask the same 10 people each week if they approve of Blo Jiden ????

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:20 PM (24+Vp)

226 "How in the Hell is Biden even close to 10% approval. These polls are such BS. What do they do, ask the same 10 people each week if they approve of Blo Jiden ????"

There's a reason they put "Not a Food" on soap bottles with pictures of lemons on them.

Posted by: Zek at August 22, 2021 02:21 PM (w/5KC)

227 Holy Christ......... I actually think (Heaven forbid) Hillary would have been better than Blo Jiden and Cum Stain Harris.........

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:22 PM (24+Vp)

228
Joe is lazy and stupid. Unfortunately his advisors are the industrious and stupid ones.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 22, 2021 02:22 PM (/U27+)

229 @JonathanTurley

Marc Elias is leaving Perkins Coie before the release of the John Durham report. https://tinyurl.com/yfdwm9rc

It is interesting that Maggie Haberman revealed it. She was one of the reporters who revealed the lies of the Clinton team over the Steele dossier.

Thread: https://tinyurl.com/yjjzhkmf

The link the the first sentence is also a thread...

Posted by: Tami at August 22, 2021 02:22 PM (cF8AT)

230 225 How in the Hell is Biden even close to 10% approval. These polls are such BS. What do they do, ask the same 10 people each week if they approve of Blo Jiden ????
Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:20 PM (24+Vp)

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It's right there in the contract... 10% for the big guy.

Posted by: 496 at August 22, 2021 02:22 PM (U1eOr)

231 If Sundowner is supposed to be on at 4pm I'll go look but it will be 4;45 earliest

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 02:22 PM (znIQ9)

232 Allen West's wife arrested in Texas for DWI and having a child under age 15 in the car. West calls her arrest "insidious".

Posted by: four seasons at August 22, 2021 02:22 PM (PisyI)

233 Well you got to expect hundreds of millions of deaths tuning...tweaking Marxism.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 02:23 PM (Lln9q)

234 Your telling me I cannot eat Lemon Dish Washing Soap and drink Clorox to kill COVID if I test positive ????

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:23 PM (24+Vp)

235 Airlines there to evacuate Dead or Alive personnel ????

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:24 PM (24+Vp)

236 Your telling me I cannot eat Lemon Dish Washing Soap and drink Clorox to kill COVID if I test positive ????

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:23 PM (24+Vp)

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Trump told me to drink fish tank cleaner!

Posted by: 496 at August 22, 2021 02:25 PM (U1eOr)

237 >>Marc Elias is leaving Perkins Coie before the release of the John Durham report. https://tinyurl.com/yfdwm9rc

Marc Elias was also the one one who led the efforts in 2020 to have states (illegally) change their voting processes because of covid.

So what's his next project? Hhe's certainly a very effective member of Team Color Revolution. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 02:25 PM (bDqIh)

238 Taiwan doesn't need troops.
Taiwan needs rockets, all types of rockets.
And nuclear warheads.
And modern exocets.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 22, 2021 02:26 PM (pXrUp)

239 179 "Send us all your worst people. Your wretched refuse, even."

-- Emma Fucking Lazarus
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 22, 2021 02:00 PM (OssQ4)

.....

That statue is up in New York.

I have no issue with dropping them off there.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 22, 2021 02:26 PM (7F9te)

240 I did NOT trust that formulation, "....any American who WANTS to leave, can." What American WOULDN'T want to leave?
It's almost as if they are setting up some future CYA scenario

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:02 PM (mR6Gs)

Exactamundo. Also, any US passport-holder, let alone SIV holder, more than nine days vehicle and walking travel from a Kabul airport entrance gate is going to be SOL as far as Joe is concerned. Assuming travel is possible at all across TBD miles of Taliban-patrolled roads and goat-paths, even with ten to twenty thousand dollars of greenbacks in hand at the start. If they can't get through on their own in time their only hope is Joe paying the Taliban to bring them to Kabul or an arranged helo pick-up location.

Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 02:26 PM (AMIL/)

241 237 >>Marc Elias is leaving Perkins Coie before the release of the John Durham report. https://tinyurl.com/yfdwm9rc

Durham report? If it ever sees the light of day I expect a lot of "mistakes were made" BS.

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 02:27 PM (I2VcN)

242 Maybe they want him disassociated from Perkins Coie before the report comes out.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 22, 2021 02:27 PM (pXrUp)

243 Again, the Chinese are not going to try to conquer Afghanistan, they will not try to bring Chinese Style Democracy, they will not try to interfere with their culture or way of life, they attempt to set up a mutually beneficial transactional relationship, nothing more, if the Taliban doesn't play ball, then the Chinese will not go into Afghanistan.

China didn't go from an under 200 billion dollar GDP to a 15 trillion dollar GDP country in under 40 years by doing stupid ridiculous things like "Nation Building." and fighting pointless wars, they got there by being smart and buying off the globalists and our , crook politicians but mostly by buying off the globalists and crook politicians.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 22, 2021 02:28 PM (GOGEo)

244 242 Maybe they want him disassociated from Perkins Coie before the report comes out.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 22, 2021 02:27 PM (pXrUp)

Maybe he wants to disassociate Himself from Perkins Coie

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 02:29 PM (I2VcN)

245 Why didn't they tear down the Statue of Liberty?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 02:29 PM (Lln9q)

246 There will be no report, no indictments, certainly no prosecutions.
Everyone involved will get a raise.
Now go back to watching tv.

Posted by: Merrick G. at August 22, 2021 02:29 PM (aAP3z)

247 171 By the way Masood's kid is trying to restart the Northern Alliance.

Real smart of us to not leave the weapons we left there in his province wasn't it?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 22, 2021 01:57 PM (DpkTQ)

As I recall they were armed with soviet equipment back in the day. We helped scrounge arms and ammo for them from the other 'stans in the region

Posted by: Javems at August 22, 2021 02:29 PM (8SSHh)

248 245 Why didn't they tear down the Statue of Liberty?
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 02:29 PM (Lln9q)

That would be fine with Me

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 02:30 PM (I2VcN)

249
I wonder what the Taliban consider the Uyghurs the "correct" type of Muslim?

Posted by: YIKES! at August 22, 2021 02:30 PM (t6XCL)

250 Whenever I hear the words, Durham Report, I'm reminded of Jim Mora's "Play Off's???" rant.

I can't believe people are still dreaming about a Durham Report.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 22, 2021 02:31 PM (GOGEo)

251 A STUDENT in Italy has become an unexpected TikTok sensation after tattooing the barcode of his Covid certificate on his arm.

Andrea Colonnetta, 22, said he hadn't given much thought in advance before getting his latest tattoo, but decided on the topical - and practical - choice after talking with tattoo artist Gabriele Pellerone.

https://tinyurl.com/m6n8je6x

The kid says he's being original.

Is he in for a shock.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:31 PM (UH+Nl)

252 190 If the Chinese launched an offensive against Taiwan today, and announced that any "interference" by the US would result in use of nuclear weapons, what would our response be? - Asking for a friend

202 They wouldn't even need to use the threat of nuclear weapons, just call us some names and threaten Disney with not allowing them to release their shit movies on China. - Blago

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The Chicoms played us well. Our corporations and assholes like LeBron James, because celebrities' know best, have already capitulated to the Chicoms. This insane UniParty and the underlying Woke Culture have prepared the ground for surrender like the French did at the beginning of WWII if push comes to shove.

If the Chicoms move on Taiwan tomorrow we might sail a few ships around Hawaii and Lindsey Graham would shake his angry fists while on Fox News. The war for Taiwan is happening right now, the question is does it result in them negotiating a surrender or slinging lead around for a while first. I can't wait for Milley to get his Taiwan medals.

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 02:32 PM (ESLBo)

253 Just a reminder, those Chinese soldiers died before the One Child policy was enacted. They lifted that fairly recently.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 22, 2021 02:33 PM (YynYJ)

254 Is he in for a shock.
Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:31 PM (UH+Nl)

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Only if he resists getting on the box car. As long as he boards it with no fussing, they'll keep the cattle prods by their sides.

Posted by: 496 at August 22, 2021 02:33 PM (U1eOr)

255 Remember when ISIS tried to set up a government?
So, the Taliban are now in control. Let's see if they can set up a functioning government without international funds.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 22, 2021 02:34 PM (Y+l9t)

256 245 Why didn't they tear down the Statue of Liberty?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 02:29 PM (Lln9q)

The Statue of Liberty cannot be torn down. The poem that trumps US immigration laws and the US Constitution is on the Statue.

Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 02:34 PM (AMIL/)

257 They love the Statue of Liberty
Give us you poor tired masses yearning to be under our umbrella of government handouts
Or some such rubbish

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 02:34 PM (znIQ9)

258 lol 496.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:34 PM (UH+Nl)

259 Hard to square China's support of the Taliban (and any sincere reciprocity) with China's murder and torture and forced reeducation of millions of Muslims within china.
To be called hypocritical and heretical in Islam is a death sentence

Posted by: Joe stinkyfingers at August 22, 2021 02:35 PM (W+TLY)

260 >. Maybe they want him disassociated from Perkins Coie before the report comes out.

It's been a while, but IIRC, Elias was Perkins Coie's guy on the DNC, Hillary campaign, and Fusion GPS accounts. His role with Fusion GPS was the middleman between them and their clients, so that Fusion GPS didn't recieve payments directly from them, thus hiding who paid for their propaganda (as well as possibly the payments to journalists and news companies).

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 02:35 PM (bDqIh)

261 China has purchased many friends right in the good ol' USA.

Posted by: Valiant at August 22, 2021 02:35 PM (3MiF8)

262 I saw French aircraft were dropping flares to celebrate Biden's Strategic victory in Obamastan as they come in to land at Joe Biden Islamic International Airport in Kabul. The French love to celebrate...... I hope these flares do not affect Global Climate Change or hurt the Obamastan Environment....

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:35 PM (24+Vp)

263 257 They love the Statue of Liberty
Give us you poor tired masses yearning to be under our umbrella of government handouts
Or some such rubbish
Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 02:34 PM (znIQ9)

The Statue was gifted to Us to celebrate Our 100 year Anniversary. It had nothing to do with Immigrants... The woman who wrote that was a Socialist and it was used as a fundraiser to pay for the base.

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 02:36 PM (I2VcN)

264 Afghanistan as one big gulag of the unwanted

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 22, 2021 02:37 PM (AR5aF)

265 Welp - Jesse Jackson and his wife both have COVID. Now there's only a 95% chance they'll get better.

Posted by: 496 at August 22, 2021 02:37 PM (U1eOr)

266 So who's gonna be watching joes new bath of lies at 4.... Ish... ?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 02:38 PM (I2VcN)

267 Awww, how sweet.

Sean Penn doesn't want those of us who didn't get the jab to see his performance in order to spare us additional pain.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:38 PM (UH+Nl)

268 Woof.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 22, 2021 02:39 PM (hmeGg)

269 Welp - Jesse Jackson and his wife both have COVID. Now there's only a 95% chance they'll get better.
Posted by: 496 at August 22, 2021 02:37 PM (U1eOr)

Also, the media isn't making it as big a deal as I thought they would.
They must be vaccinated.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:39 PM (mR6Gs)

270 Hey nurse!

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:39 PM (UH+Nl)

271 Also, the media isn't making it as big a deal as I thought they would.
They must be vaccinated.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:39 PM (mR6Gs)

YUP

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 02:39 PM (I2VcN)

272

Tony Blair has blasted Joe Biden's 'imbecilic' decision to withdraw US troops from Taliban-controlled Afghanistan, calling the President's scuttle 'tragic, dangerous and unnecessary' and claiming the move had 'every Jihadist group round the world cheering'.

Speaking to Sky News on Sunday, Mr Blair said he has 'enormous respect' for Mr Biden, but suggested the President - who campaigned on a slogan of ending 'forever wars' and is likely to be keeping an eye on next year's midterms - had withdrawn US troops for domestic political reasons.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 22, 2021 02:39 PM (63Dwl)

273 "They must be vaccinated"

Jesse or the media?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 22, 2021 02:40 PM (AR5aF)

274
Afghanistan's Wakhan Corridor, thanks to Britain & Russia in 1893, links to China. There's a road, under construction, that connects the two countries. Google Earth suggests that the W.Corridor is mostly a mountain ridge.

If the Afghani mineral wealth plays out, China could easily transport in thousands of Chinese "workers" to remove any Afghan trouble. The Taliban would likely get some small payments at first, but as Chinese involvement and investment increase, the Taliban would find themselves out; all the way out.

I can see the Chinese spraying paraquat, or something similar, all over the Afghan poppy fields, to keep the Taliban from getting enough money to stand up to the Chinese.

Afghanistan's title of "Graveyard of Empires" really looks like hype. Alexander marched through it, the British and Russians used it as a border, we only wanted bin Laden. No one has ever made much of an effort in Afghanistan, either to subdue it, or to stay. Now, with the mineral wealth, believed to be enormous, the Chinese take their turn. Only this time, unlike the past, the Chinese are likely to make a long term and major effort.

Posted by: Arbalest at August 22, 2021 02:40 PM (FlRtG)

275 Joe said: "We get a lot of memos."

So? My wife is one of your employees, and she gets about 300 emails per day, and each one is VERY IMPORTANT!
She manages to clear each one, and she doesn't even have a staff.

You might as well say you missed the 9-1 attacks because it was your nap time.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 22, 2021 02:40 PM (49Exr)

276 Hi SMH!
About to take off for Seattle.

Woof.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 22, 2021 02:40 PM (TejMA)

277 There is only one runway at Kabul airport. There is limited fuel supply. Most commercial aircraft are unable to fuel in mid flight no no way to get there without a fuel stop.
My guess is we will not see a single commercial aircraft in Afghanistan.
If you were a commercial airline pilot, would you make that flight? All it would take is one errant ordnance....oh, sorry, it wasn't us that blew up that plane full of civilians.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 22, 2021 02:40 PM (Y+l9t)

278 Sean Penn doesn't want those of us who didn't get the jab to see his performance in order to spare us additional pain.
Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:38 PM (UH+Nl)

It's also funny how people who smoke, drink, take drugs and practice unsafe sex all of a sudden act " health conscious" around Covid

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:41 PM (mR6Gs)

279 Safe travels, girl.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:42 PM (UH+Nl)

280 When did Sean Penn last make a movie?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 22, 2021 02:42 PM (AR5aF)

281 Hi SMH!
About to take off for Seattle.

Woof.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 22, 2021 02:40 PM (TejMA)

Sorry to butt in. How was the shindig last night? Rilly, rilly wanted to be there. But hey. I took pictures of a bull moose in the Bighorn mountains, so I actually had a good day. he did not mention anything about anything being closed.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, In the Field at August 22, 2021 02:42 PM (4l77G)

282 What are the airlines for? Evacuees or body bags ?????

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:43 PM (24+Vp)

283 Depends, did they eat Taco Bell before the flight?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 22, 2021 02:44 PM (AR5aF)

284 Hi Pug!

It was a hoot! WDS is the hostess with the mostest.

I may have had too much to drink last night.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 22, 2021 02:45 PM (ED7Af)

285 Welp - Jesse Jackson and his wife both have COVID. Now there's only a 95% chance they'll get better.
Posted by: 496 at August 22, 2021 02:37 PM (U1eOr)

Also, the media isn't making it as big a deal as I thought they would.
They must be vaccinated.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:39 PM (mR6Gs)

Jesse Jackson has been taking every precaution since 1968.

Early on, he feared the Democrat assassins.

Since then he fears G*d. Probably wears a grounded lead helmet.

Posted by: golfman at August 22, 2021 02:45 PM (hOMhY)

286 I can see the Chinese spraying paraquat, or something similar,
-------

So, they don't have late-night bottom-feeder law firms.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 22, 2021 02:46 PM (JioHo)

287 Posted by: nurse ratched at August 22, 2021 02:45 PM (ED7Af)

Cool. WDS is a sweetheart.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, In the Field at August 22, 2021 02:46 PM (4l77G)

288 I know guys who regularly used drugs, drank to excess, ate anything they wanted, drive motorcycles at 120mph, hung around in nightclubs where knives and guns were being carried by half the patrons and stuck their dicks into everything with an orifice and a pulse who are DEATHLY afraid of Covid and drive with their mask on.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:46 PM (mR6Gs)

289 >>Speaking to Sky News on Sunday, Mr Blair said he has 'enormous respect' for Mr Biden, but . . .

As with Boris Johnson, I am out of f$#@s to give about his opinions on US politics. You backed Biden and lord know how you helped behind the scenes. Look in the mirror and tell *that* guy how dissappointed you are, dude.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 02:46 PM (bDqIh)

290 One of the biggest things I miss about Trump is being able to laugh at our president.

Biggest thing I miss about Trump is when Suilimani got uppity, Trump had him turned into pico de gallo.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2021 02:47 PM (OCTRt)

291 Not a commercial pilot in the world that is going to risk his life or the lives of his passengers in landing or taking off from Kabul.

They'll go to Kuwait, Dubai, whatever to pick up bodies for the most part.

Will not be too many Americans rescued; they would talk and be a thorn in the side of those in this admin.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:47 PM (UH+Nl)

292 Durham report? If it ever sees the light of day I expect a lot of "mistakes were made" BS.

Do we have an age-enhanced photo of Durham so we can recognize him?

Posted by: t-bird at August 22, 2021 02:47 PM (DMQdU)

293 Sean Penn played Hillary Clinton in a Denzel Washington movie...Citizen's Arrest.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 02:47 PM (Lln9q)

294 As with Boris Johnson, I am out of f$#@s to give about his opinions on US politics. You backed Biden and lord know how you helped behind the scenes. Look in the mirror and tell *that* guy how dissappointed you are, dude.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 02:46 PM (bDqIh)

I agree. And of course he "has respect" for Biden and not Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:48 PM (mR6Gs)

295 To celebrate diversity the airlines pilots flying the jets into Obamastan must be gay, persons of color, transgender, believe CRT, vaccinated, support Black Lives matter, and have purple hair by order of General Milli Vinilly...

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:49 PM (24+Vp)

296 What are the airlines for? Evacuees or body bags ?????
Posted by: James
___

A few lucky lottery winners to maintain the illusion of DOING SOMETHING but for the most part, bodies.

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:49 PM (UH+Nl)

297 I can see the Chinese spraying paraquat, or something similar, all over the Afghan poppy fields, to keep the Taliban from getting enough money to stand up to the Chinese.

Afghanistan's title of "Graveyard of Empires" really looks like hype. Alexander marched through it, the British and Russians used it as a border, we only wanted bin Laden. No one has ever made much of an effort in Afghanistan, either to subdue it, or to stay.

It is hype. Start erasing villages. Everything with a heartbeat dies. They get uppity, erase four or five. Rinse, repeat.
Don't listen to world opinion.
^^^^ that's what's cost everyone in the modern era.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 22, 2021 02:52 PM (OCTRt)

298 >>A few lucky lottery winners to maintain the illusion of DOING SOMETHING but for the most part, bodies.

Yes, I fear they will take the Benghazi approach: dead diplomats and other feds allowed to be attacked thanks to Biden;s incompetence cannot be called before a Congressional hearing or complain to the press.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 22, 2021 02:52 PM (bDqIh)

299 Movie idea....

I Was A Teenage Terrorist.

You must let me direct.

Action!

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 02:52 PM (Lln9q)

300 284

I so loved meeting y'all! It was a fantastic meet up. I was kind of nervous about going, since I'm pretty new at AoS, but I was as welcome as an old friend.
(Sorry for disrupting the subject of the blog).

Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 22, 2021 02:53 PM (MViHT)

301 All I know is Shuffling Joe and his cavalcade of assclowns still haven't sent me my federal tax return.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 22, 2021 02:54 PM (ecYxZ)

302 "The Statue of Liberty cannot be torn down"

At least Planet of the Apes destroyed the Statue of Liberty. Having it left up is like having Russian Mafia kidnap you and your daughter, then forcing you to bus tables at one of their sex clubs where she gives lap dances.

We should send it back. America doesn't deserve Liberty.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 22, 2021 02:54 PM (49Exr)

303 Welp - Jesse Jackson and his wife both have COVID.

**

After making a big public display of getting the vaccine so that the black community would know it was perfectly safe and would prevent them from catching the COVIDs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) why does the Red Cross refuse donations for 2 weeks after vaccination? at August 22, 2021 02:55 PM (2CptV)

304 Got my popcorn ready for Joey's presser. Wonder how late he'll be?

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at August 22, 2021 02:56 PM (ptqGC)

305 Posted by: COMountainMarie
___

So glad you had a good time.

There are good people on this blog, and I thank God every day that I get to be associated with this wretched hive of scum and villainy.

Gonna be at the TxMoMee?

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 02:56 PM (UH+Nl)

306 China is engaging in true colonialism.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 22, 2021 02:56 PM (csEWM)

307 291 Not a commercial pilot in the world that is going to risk his life or the lives of his passengers in landing or taking off from Kabul.

They'll go to Kuwait, Dubai, whatever to pick up bodies for the most part.
-------------------

This situation is where Ross Perot did his best work.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 22, 2021 02:57 PM (pXrUp)

308 OK packed and ready to go back to the Swamp tomorrow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 02:57 PM (Irn0L)

309 Jackson has COIVD ??????

This proves the virus is RACIIIIIIIIIIIIST !!!

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:57 PM (24+Vp)

310 Not a commercial pilot in the world that is going to risk his life or the lives of his passengers in landing or taking off from Kabul.

They'll go to Kuwait, Dubai, whatever to pick up bodies for the most part.

Yup, they are NOT being tasked to go into Kabul

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 02:58 PM (Irn0L)

311 Posted by: JoeF. at August 22, 2021 02:46 PM (mR6Gs)

* snort*

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 22, 2021 02:58 PM (oDDOm)

312 Jackson has COIVD ??????

This proves the virus is RACIIIIIIIIIIIIST !!!
Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:57 PM (24+Vp)

Well his wife. I believe the Virus gives jessie professional courtesy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 02:59 PM (Irn0L)

313 Taliban Airlines is available for use if necessary thanx to Blo Jiden..........

Posted by: James at August 22, 2021 02:59 PM (24+Vp)

314 Miss COMountainMarie. Make yourself at home where if this is your first day..you have to fight.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 02:59 PM (Lln9q)

315 I want a mead hall in the howling wilderness.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at August 22, 2021 02:59 PM (cSyAR)

316 Q: Secretary Blinken, does the President of the United States have any contact with reality?

A: uhhhh

https://tinyurl.com/32aehw2j

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 22, 2021 03:00 PM (DSLYu)

317 Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 22, 2021 02:53 PM (MViHT)

Glad you had fun! Did anyone end up with a lampshade on their head?

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 22, 2021 03:00 PM (nxdel)

318 JoeF. Have a friend 26 yr Marine vet. Also fears Covid.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at August 22, 2021 03:00 PM (2NHgQ)

319 Jackson got Covid
So A) Vax doesn't work
B) he didn't really get it and you shouldn't either
C) Get upstairs because

FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at August 22, 2021 03:01 PM (znIQ9)

320 305

I so want to come to Texas...I just need to try and convince my chauffeur

Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 22, 2021 03:02 PM (MViHT)

321 *to Biden*

Well? ... we're waiting!

Posted by: Judge Smails at August 22, 2021 03:02 PM (4I/2K)

322 Turkey has been flying both military and commercial jets and prop jobs into Kabul since last Wednesday. At least several regional airlines are also operating in and out of the area, but obviously they're not dealing with Americans.

FlightRadar24 will sometimes have them ID'd. Other times they're labeled "no call sign."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 22, 2021 03:02 PM (BFigT)

323 Back in Nov 2003, a DHL Airbus was hit after takeoff with AA fire from AQ forces that were outside BIAP.

Thanks be to God, the three crewmembers somehow landed that bird with no hydraulics, just using engine power, and with the left wing on fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xWZo2i8Yo8

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 03:03 PM (UH+Nl)

324 Covid fear is weird. Some people are just freaks about it.

No way of knowing before this started who'd be a super freak but we all know them now.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 22, 2021 03:04 PM (cknjq)

325 317
Ha! I think I might have left before lampshade antics, although I think things were leading up to it....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 22, 2021 03:04 PM (MViHT)

326 Guess I out to go upstairs where there is a TV and see if Sundowner can make it

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 03:05 PM (znIQ9)

327 So is joe on? I won't watch

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 03:05 PM (I2VcN)

328 OOOOH sundown to warn the taliboon again. LOL.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 22, 2021 03:06 PM (Irn0L)

329 In light rain this morning, rural road 20 something looking guy walking along alone with mask on.

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 03:06 PM (znIQ9)

330 WaPo feed just shows a Marine sentry standing a post at the WH exterior.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:07 PM (4I/2K)

331 Lessee. Watch Joe Biden or "Mama's Family" reruns?

Dang I can't decide.

Posted by: f'd at August 22, 2021 03:07 PM (Tnijr)

332 330 WaPo feed just shows a Marine sentry standing a post at the WH exterior.
Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:07 PM (4I/2K

Maybe joe got lost again

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 03:07 PM (I2VcN)

333 This situation is where Ross Perot did his best work.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 22, 2021 02:57 PM (pXrUp)

Yup, that was a good example of what happens when you ignore the "nothing can be done" crowd. It's amazing how being pro-active and aggressive can make things break in your favor.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 22, 2021 03:07 PM (49Exr)

334 Vomit ahead of time and put it in a microwave...you will be transported to the 7th century.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 03:08 PM (Lln9q)

335 I actually have CNN on, woman's is pleading the Afghanistanis who worked with Americans need to be saved.

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 03:10 PM (znIQ9)

336 "Covid fear is weird. Some people are just freaks about it."

They've trained themselves to craft alternate realities to live in.

There are five lights, not four
Trump is the New Hitler
Men can have babies
Worst attack on the Capitol since 1814
Covid is Captain Tripps

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 22, 2021 03:11 PM (49Exr)

337 "I actually have CNN on, woman's is pleading the Afghanistanis who worked with Americans need to be saved."

Plead harder.

You don't want my help, I'm toxic remember?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 22, 2021 03:12 PM (49Exr)

338 Are we sure biden is still alive??

Posted by: four seasons at August 22, 2021 03:14 PM (PisyI)

339 338 Are we sure biden is still alive??

Is he on yet?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 03:15 PM (I2VcN)

340
Are we sure biden is still alive??

Posted by: four seasons at August 22, 2021 03:14 PM

he's late to his "proof of life" presser

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 22, 2021 03:15 PM (DUIap)

341 I don't know Donna. I can't watch or listen to him.

Posted by: four seasons at August 22, 2021 03:16 PM (PisyI)

342 Joe is still licking his jello shot cup.

Posted by: f'd at August 22, 2021 03:16 PM (Tnijr)

343 I can't watch or listen to him.

Same here.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 22, 2021 03:17 PM (nxdel)

344 he's late to his "proof of life" presser
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 22, 2021 03:15 PM (DUIap)

Why do they bother giving times... They never show up when they say they will... Should have said 4 ish

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 03:17 PM (I2VcN)

345 343 I can't watch or listen to him.

Same here.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 22, 2021 03:17 PM (nxdel)

Me either

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 03:18 PM (I2VcN)

346 Sometimes the hype is real. Some of you would have cried like schoolgirls listening to Russian soldiers tell of what they did and what was done to them over there. Colonel Kurtz was a pussy by comparison. My only question really is, why does anyone think $3 trillion in mineral wealth is a lot? Our worthless government throws money like that around like dollar bills at a strip joint.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at August 22, 2021 03:18 PM (oWBc3)

347 Sundowner is on

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 03:18 PM (znIQ9)

348 I am wondering why these Sock Puppet press conferences area always late. When Trump ran late I always assumed he was giving somebody hell. I have visions of the a team of people whacking the Sock Puppet with cardiac paddles and shoving coke up his nose.

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 03:18 PM (ESLBo)

349 Slow Joe is up.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 22, 2021 03:18 PM (xopIz)

350 Live or memorex?

Posted by: four seasons at August 22, 2021 03:19 PM (PisyI)

351 "China doesn't "nation build." China takes what it needs and will protect its interests. If the Taliban grow weary of the Chinese presence and begin to push back, then it will get interesting, but it would be in China's best interest to keep the relationship strictly business. The Taliban have a good relationship with Pakistan, as does China, so there is a template in place, and mutual friends to smooth away strife caused by China's theft of Afghanistan's natural resources. And, As America has discovered to its chagrin, China is adept at buying friends, and one would assume that Afghan "friends" are far less expensive than the American variety."

Yeah? And? Maybe we should start doing this. If people want to sell us their stuff, we'll buy it. If not, that's their loss. They need our money more than we need their cadmium. It makes a lot more sense to buy it with greenbacks then with the blood and limbs of nineteen-year-olds.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 22, 2021 03:19 PM (7YLZ1)

352 Storm words first

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 03:19 PM (znIQ9)

353 LOL lost in space!

Posted by: four seasons at August 22, 2021 03:20 PM (PisyI)

354 352 Storm words first
Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 03:19 PM (znIQ9)

Climate change!

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 03:20 PM (I2VcN)

355 Lookks taped

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:20 PM (4I/2K)

356 " Sundowner is on
Posted by: Skip

Ah ha ha. Mama just called Vinton a loser again!

Posted by: f'd at August 22, 2021 03:20 PM (Tnijr)

357 Stumbled over Fema director's name

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 03:21 PM (znIQ9)

358 Biden is rousing himself to give a presser? Their internal polling must be awful if they are working him this hard.

Posted by: IC at August 22, 2021 03:21 PM (Nyumu)

359 358 Biden is rousing himself to give a presser? Their internal polling must be awful if they are working him this hard.
Posted by: IC at August 22, 2021 03:21 PM (Nyumu)

And he couldn't go back to his home basement

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 03:21 PM (I2VcN)

360 He slurs his words all the time.

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 03:23 PM (ESLBo)

361 A little late now for prepping.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 22, 2021 03:23 PM (xopIz)

362 Will he go the distance? All 19 minutes.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:23 PM (4I/2K)

363 Mask!
Drink

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 03:23 PM (znIQ9)

364 "The more he talked about his sacred honor, the faster we counted the silverware."

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 22, 2021 03:24 PM (xopIz)

365 I can't remember any other President giving a speech at 4 on a Sunday afternoon.

Posted by: f'd at August 22, 2021 03:25 PM (Tnijr)

366 The golf got postponed until tomorrow.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 22, 2021 03:25 PM (xopIz)

367 365 I can't remember any other President giving a speech at 4 on a Sunday afternoon.

Posted by: f'd at August 22, 2021 03:25 PM (Tnijr)

See #355
It's taped.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 22, 2021 03:26 PM (D3cJf)

368 And he couldn't go back to his home basement
Posted by: It's me donna
------

We're going to Camp David...wait, we're going to Maryland, wait, no...we're going to Washington.

Joe: "Weren't we just in Washington?
Joe: "Jill? Where are we?"

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 22, 2021 03:26 PM (/2aWP)

369 33,000 persons evacuated? 90% on other nation's jets.

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 03:26 PM (ESLBo)

370 Saying it's live

Posted by: Skip at August 22, 2021 03:27 PM (znIQ9)

371 33,000 persons evacuated? 90% on other nation's jets.

29 thousand new Americans....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 03:28 PM (I2VcN)

372 President Porky Pig

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:28 PM (4I/2K)

373 Statistics!

Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 03:28 PM (AMIL/)

374 It must be live because he was late.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 22, 2021 03:28 PM (xopIz)

375 374 It must be live because he was late.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 22, 2021 03:28 PM (xopIz)

I agree

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 03:29 PM (I2VcN)

376 a live broadcast of a taped event

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:29 PM (4I/2K)

377 It must be live because he was late.
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 22, 2021 03:28 PM (xopIz)

That's just what they want you to think.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:30 PM (4I/2K)

378 Let him be clear!

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:31 PM (4I/2K)

379 374 It must be live because he was late.
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Other they couldn't get an acceptable run through. A President passing off a taped speech as live would soon leak out. The fall out would be epic. I am guessing it is live, but hoping it is taped.

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 03:31 PM (ESLBo)

380 Trifecta!

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:31 PM (4I/2K)

381 I'm in the group that says the mining potential is vastly overstated. You can't set up large scale modern mining operations in a barbarian wasteland. You need ports, a reliable power grid, rail and freight operations, highways, etc etc. Afghanistan is still centuries away from all of that.

Possibly if there was some highly concentrated bit of something rare, one could set up a small boutique mining operation that was self contained. But that's unlikely.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 22, 2021 03:31 PM (q3gwH)

382 Oh, so ISIS is in Afghanistan? What an idiot.

ISIS-K, what the hell is that?

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 03:33 PM (ESLBo)

383 It's not how hard you work. It's what you accomplish that matters.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 22, 2021 03:33 PM (xopIz)

384 Oh, so ISIS is in Afghanistan? What an idiot.

ISIS-K, what the hell is that?
Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 03:33 PM (ESLBo)

The Kappa variant.

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:33 PM (4I/2K)

385 This was so welled planned we only have to make short-notice emergency use of three planes each from a bunch of commercial airlines.

- Joe

Now he's giving a pre-excuse for any US military killed or wounded. It's DANGEROUS! Would have been more dangerous without our terrific planning.

Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 03:34 PM (AMIL/)

386 Now he's giving a pre-excuse for any US military killed or wounded. It's DANGEROUS! Would have been more dangerous without our terrific planning

He didn't actually say that did he?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 03:34 PM (I2VcN)

387 Audio by kazoo

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:36 PM (4I/2K)

388 Ooh, live softball questions.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 22, 2021 03:37 PM (xopIz)

389 386 Now he's giving a pre-excuse for any US military killed or wounded. It's DANGEROUS! Would have been more dangerous without our terrific planning

He didn't actually say that did he?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 22, 2021 03:34 PM (I2VcN)

not the third sentence. sorry.

Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 03:38 PM (AMIL/)

390 Mr President, given how well you planned this exit, don't you think you deserve an extra scoop of ice cream?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 22, 2021 03:38 PM (kTF2Z)

391 Stumbled over Fema director's name
Posted by: Skip
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Without looking, I'm guessing that it is some Dem back-bencher. I mean, Rahm Emanuel as Amb. to Japan? WTF?

In the news: "Why Biden should not reward Rahm Emanuel" - The LA Times.

When you've lost the LA Times...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 22, 2021 03:38 PM (fFtVH)

392 I am totally bummed. He didn't discuss his over the horizon capabilities. Every time he mentions this crap all I can think about is listening to Art Bell when the topic was remote viewing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_viewing

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 03:38 PM (ESLBo)

393 "You fucked up. You trusted me!"

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 22, 2021 03:38 PM (VxC1e)

394 I'm not having that. I'll have you know we won the Second Anglo-Afghan war and got exactly what we wanted out of the Third.

Posted by: STV at August 22, 2021 03:39 PM (G7TE+)

395 Mr President, how many millions would have died if Trump was still in Charge?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 22, 2021 03:39 PM (kTF2Z)

396 Stumbled over Fema director's name
Posted by: Skip
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Without looking, I'm guessing that it is some Dem back-bencher. I mean, Rahm Emanuel as Amb. to Japan? WTF?
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I withdraw comment about FEMA Director, she appears competent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 22, 2021 03:39 PM (fFtVH)

397 Is he going back to Delaware now? What a shitshow!

Posted by: four seasons at August 22, 2021 03:39 PM (PisyI)

398 Mr President, is it tiring always living up to your standards of perfection?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 22, 2021 03:40 PM (kTF2Z)

399 aaand it's a wrap

Posted by: Count de Monet, unvaccinated American at August 22, 2021 03:40 PM (4I/2K)

400 Now for a little vaycay...

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 22, 2021 03:40 PM (VxC1e)

401 Paraphrasing: I made the right decision! Full speed ahead! Damn the torpedoes, unintended consequences, and collateral damage!

Posted by: Gref at August 22, 2021 03:41 PM (AMIL/)

402 The Talley Band - never heard of them. Are they a thing?

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 03:41 PM (ESLBo)

403 Oh, so ISIS is in Afghanistan? What an idiot.
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[shakes head slowly, sadly]

Joe, Joe...its 'ISIL'.

Posted by: Barack at August 22, 2021 03:41 PM (WLHrn)

404 The Talley Band - never heard of them. Are they a thing?
Posted by: LostInSpace
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Celebrated in song by Harry Belafonte.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 22, 2021 03:43 PM (WLHrn)

405 A: uhhhh

https://tinyurl.com/32aehw2j

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 22, 2021 03:00 PM (DSLYu)
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Snavely Wallace screwed Trump.
He deserves everything he gets and more.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 22, 2021 03:45 PM (pXrUp)

406 The CCP make excellent business partners.
Posted by: Wm. & Hillary Clinton at August 22, 2021 01:09 PM (a3Q+t)

Us too!

Posted by: Thom Tillis and Richard Burr at August 22, 2021 03:45 PM (yybF9)

407 What a useless press conference. But as a buzz word bingo session, well that was OK. My take away is it is complete chaos on the ground, the logistics are not going well, the Taliban is fucking with him because they can, and they still have no idea how to get people trapped outside the airport perimeter to the airport. The fact they are discussing extending the final evacuation date passed 8/31 is telling as to how fubar everything is. I am imagining the food, water, and sanitation situation is interesting.

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 03:50 PM (ESLBo)

408 final evacuation date passed 8/31 is telling as to how fubar everything is. I am imagining the food, water, and sanitation situation is interesting.
Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 03:50 PM (ESLBo)

^This

Posted by: golfman at August 22, 2021 03:53 PM (hOMhY)

409 Did he say he is going to give a speech every day?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 22, 2021 03:54 PM (63Dwl)

410 They finally found something really racist privilege supremely wanting to kill us all.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 03:54 PM (Lln9q)

411 Us too!
Posted by: Thom Tillis and Richard Burr at August 22, 2021 03:45 PM (yybF9)

Someone is my twin.

Posted by: golfman at August 22, 2021 03:55 PM (hOMhY)

412 409 Did he say he is going to give a speech every day?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 22, 2021 03:54 PM (63Dwl)
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What! Good thing Hunter is around otherwise the Sock Puppet prop-him-uppers might run out the necessary pre-speech cognitive jumper cable stimulants.

Posted by: LostInSpace. at August 22, 2021 03:59 PM (ESLBo)

413 361

Never too late for prepping. I bet you know what you need to do....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 22, 2021 04:01 PM (MViHT)

414 The Taliban are not well aware of who they are dealing with in the Chinese. They probably think they can take them, just like they took everybody else. What the Taliban don't understand is that the Chinese, if they consider the ground important, will simply exterminate every man, woman, and child they can if they cause problems. They don't care about human life one little bit. They can always ship millions of Chinese to colonize after the stench clears a little from all the bodies...

That brave fellow on the horse in Australia? They'll arrest him, throw him in jail, and probably shoot his horse because it might be a vector for CCP Lung AIDS.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at August 22, 2021 04:03 PM (cjlB3)

415 aucklands folly

Posted by: fireman1 at August 22, 2021 04:06 PM (9njnP)

416 Never too late for prepping. I bet you know what you need to do....
Posted by: COMountainMarie

Doomsday Prepping for the Tribulation? John MacArthur

https://www.youtube.com/watchv=RRIWxVWlf8g&t=81s

Posted by: SMH - Dissidentin' in the USSA at August 22, 2021 04:09 PM (UH+Nl)

417 404

Hey, mister taliban, tally me some bullshit
Daylight come and no Americans go home....
Hey mister puddin' Joe gimme some money,
Daylight come, and they still don't come home....
'Long as we get money, you don't give any f*ck,
Daylight come and another new war...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at August 22, 2021 04:09 PM (MViHT)

418 Japan thought they were protected by heaven because they were lucky from foreign invaders and their ships .

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 04:10 PM (Lln9q)

419 Until Commodore Perry showed up.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 22, 2021 04:19 PM (KAi1n)

420 And Colonel Tibbets.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 22, 2021 04:23 PM (63Dwl)

421 I am ok with both killing each other.

Posted by: astonerii at August 22, 2021 04:41 PM (B9VxK)

422 Great-Grandpa Kiddie Klamper is stunned and confused as an NPR reporter asks him a question not on his Large-Print Pre-Approved List of Pre-Cleared Inquiries.

Blinken looks like a Maitre d' with projectile flatulence issues and no more Crab Florentine.

Kamala is staring at her shoes like a used condom is stuck to her high heel.

Again.

She has since fled to Vietnam to get as far away as possible from the smell of old man and abject failure, but mostly abject failure. Except she unfortunately carries around a bottle of Eau de Failure in her purse like Hillary carries around hot sauce and vodka nips. In fairness, it's not her fault that Joe also sold out the South Vietnamese. She was just a little girl riding on Biden's segregated school bus, blaming the Beaver for her missing homework.

Always the Beaver.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 22, 2021 04:48 PM (Ndje9)

423 Maryland Governor, Larry Hogan said that his state will try to accept as many Afghan refugees as it can

Posted by: Braenyard at August 22, 2021 04:52 PM (pXrUp)

424 Massive veterans group uses intel, satellite images to direct Afghan interpreters around Taliban checkpoints _FOX
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Not anymore, jackasses

Posted by: Braenyard at August 22, 2021 05:16 PM (pXrUp)

425
Is he going back to Delaware now? What a shitshow!
Posted by: four seasons

The warning signs regarding street blockage and no drones were off when we drove near to his northern DE residence around 4 PM today. Maybe he's at the beach.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 22, 2021 05:16 PM (pNxlR)

426 Patagonia will stop supplying Jackson Hole Mountain Resort with inventory following one of the resort's owners hosting a fundraiser for the right-wing House Freedom Caucus.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 22, 2021 05:18 PM (pXrUp)

427 Except . . . quite a few tried and succeeded in conquering and converting Afghanistan.
The Persians conquered it and converted the people to Zoroastrianism, the Indians switched it to Buddhism, and the Arabs to Islam.
Within those were multiple sub-groups that held it for 1-2 centuries before being replaced, or using it to conquer Persia or India.
The only people so far to fail to conquer it and convert the people, or use it as a springboard for greater conquests, have been the British, Russians, and Americans, to Christianity for the former two and Social Justice for the latter. And while a family dynasty of 1-2 centuries may not seem that impressive, it is still conquest, with the religious outliving the original usurpers, and Islam holding the current record at 11-1/2 centuries or so.
So this concept that Afghanistan cannot be conquered, held, and converted is false, with only the parsing of "modernity" being vaguely valid, and then only for the ones that failed to establish a dynasty for a century or so.
That should not be taken to exclude the Chinese from an actual conquest, given their lack of political "modernity".

Posted by: Sam at August 22, 2021 05:34 PM (ohyxL)

428 Has Kabul debacle opened a rift between Boris and 'doolally' Biden? No10 denies PM feels 'betrayed' after Washington's rapid pull-out left UK exposed
_DM
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Doolally - Wikipedia, Doolally/Deolali, India, the former site of a British Army transit camp.

Doolally tap or simply "Doolally", meaning to 'lose one's mind'

Posted by: Braenyard at August 22, 2021 05:35 PM (pXrUp)

429 A history of the Anglo-Afghan Wars.

https://www.britannica.com/
event/Anglo-Afghan-Wars

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at August 22, 2021 08:08 PM (UHVv4)

430 I'm always the last one to comment.

If it were my objective...i could make you look ageded.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at August 22, 2021 08:51 PM (Lln9q)

431 "The Persians, the Greeks, the Arabs, Tamerlane, the British, the Soviet Union, and now America (and I am sure to be missing a few); all tried and failed to conquer, hold and convert Afghanistan to their version of modernity, or subservience, or political orthodoxy."

wrong. Before the British pretty much everyone held on to it just fine. The deep impression of Turkic and Mongol rule is the name Khan which is Turkic ,not Pustun in origin. Afghanistan historically has been under foreign rule than soveriegn.

Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2021 08:25 AM (Ehre4)

432 @427
"The Persians conquered it and converted the people to Zoroastrianism, the Indians switched it to Buddhism, and the Arabs to Islam."

Not quite. The persians did not prefer to impose their religion on others. Even today apart from Judaism and Hinduism, Zoroastrianiasm is the only major world religion that does not seek converts. However Afghanistan was a grand central station for many faiths and cultures. From Graeco Buddhism( Hindus prior to Greek invasion did not represent dieties with statues, Buddha was represented in art work as a tree) , Central Asian shamanism, pre Zoroastrian Iranic dieties among others. Heck some Kushan emperors who were Buddist even assumed Caesar as a title.

Actually much of Afganistan was not tribal for a lot of its history but cosmopolitan. An Assyrian traveller under Kushan rule noted that Afghan women had considerable independence,financial and sexual , and that Afghan men were a tad soft with tendency to be dandies.
So this notion that they were these grizzled warlords from time immemorial has nothing to do with reality.

Posted by: Vic at August 23, 2021 08:32 AM (Ehre4)

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