Claim: Trump is Telling His "Dinner Pals" He's Running in 2024

I don't doubt it. Why wouldn't he? He won twice in a row.

Still, I'd prefer he didn't. I'll support him as a candidate, but I'd really prefer DeathSantis.

Rolling Stone, if you trust that rag, which I don't:

Brace yourself: Donald Trump plans to run for president again.
At least that's what the former president is telling his dinner buddies.
Trump has told at least three people he's dined with in recent months that he plans to run in 2024, a former senior official at the Republican National Committee tells Rolling Stone. "I have three friends who've had dinner with him in the last couple of months. All three reported that his current plans are to run for president in 2024," the former R.N.C. official says. "Now, whether he does or not is a different issue. We’ve still got three years to go. But he's telling people that."
The ex-R.N.C. official says the first two dinners took place in late spring. But the third dinner happened in the last two weeks, the official said. The first two dinner companions came away from their conversations convinced Trump was serious and he’s running, the official adds. The third said he left the dinner "not 100% sure Trump wants to run but he likes being in the conversation, he wants to freeze the field, and he wants his name out there," according to the ex-R.N.C. official.

This column by Kurt Schlichter on what comes after Trump is worth your time:

Our voices are silenced, we have no institutional advocates; the institutions designed to vindicate our rights won't. That limits our options going forward to opting for submission -- that's the aptly-named David French solution -- or opting to burn it all down.
I say flick the Bic.
We'll be told we hate democracy. Yet, for all the performative anguish about the perilous peril posed by selfie-snapping grandmas in the Rotunda -- the best thing ever are the media blue checks insisting the sight of a faux Viking and some elderly tourists so traumatized them that they must see therapy--- the elite sure hates democracy. Well, to be precise, it hates democracy when we attempt to participate in it. There's a high fuss factor out there right now over how uppity we peasants are getting, and the message is clear.
Stop complaining, racist.
Stop complaining, insurrectionist.
Stop complaining, Jesus gun people who like the flag.
Obey.
But people aren't obeying, and the usual suspects are mortified. How dare we say "No," but dare we do, and the ruling class can’t even.
So the elite fight back, aided and abetted by the surrender caucus of formerly relevant conservagrifters who take a break from thinking about their pool boys and their wives to come out and explain why True Conservatism(TM) means absolute submission to whatever the establishment wants.
...
Yes, they want democracy to die in darkness, preferably painfully.
But when the ordinary ways to have our voices heard are closed off to us, we'll find extraordinary ones. Trump was one. He was a warning. But he was, despite the mass-micturition of the elite, no radical. He had no desire to lay waste; he wanted to rule, but as a member of what he did not understand was a terminally ill ruling caste. Remember how he was caught up in institutional prestige -- this college was great, that company was respected? This, as well as the fact that he showed up without a Rolodex and needed to rely on a bunch of establishment acolyte-kissers, made him too weak to truly use his power. Yet even with his limitations, he did many amazing and consequential things.

The Strong Man Populist coming soon will not have that weakness. He will not hesitate to use his power to clean house, to prosecute the criminals, to defeat our enemies, both foreign and domestic. Some Republicans will recoil in horror at the idea of us actually winning. "We can't abandon our fundamental norms," they will fret, and that's literally true. We can't abandon our fundamental norms because the establishment these shills flack for already abandoned our fundamental norms over the last five years. Zombie norms will not restrain the Strong Man Populist.

One negative consequence of Trump running again: He'll wind up saving the media -- which is dying nearly as fast as Biden's brain -- at least for a time.

And just to extend my remarks: https://t.co/du2GxAoemW
— Paul Farhi (@farhip) July 19, 2021

Meanwhile, independent journalists who didn't base their entire existence and worldview on Trump -- but understood there were other relevant power centers, problems and pathologies that had nothing to do with him -- are thriving more than never. Maybe draw some lessons from this?
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) July 19, 2021

Posted by: Ace at 03:25 PM

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1 First!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 19, 2021 02:25 PM (z5Vrg)

2 Could have been a contender.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 19, 2021 02:26 PM (JUOKG)

3 top 5,

now to the content

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at July 19, 2021 02:26 PM (8D42x)

4 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

5 I want him to run because we know how he will perform, and I think another Trump term would be four years of fighting that's necessary to set the stage for a successful DeSantis admin. Running DeSantis in '24, even if he wins, would give new life to the NeverTrump wing of the GOP, who would see it as vindication.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 02:27 PM (jOcSX)

6 Love ya Trump, but no

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2021 02:27 PM (mZUr4)

7 You can't have my guvnor. We need him down here. He's right on the front line of defense against Walter The Puppet and his ChiCom masters.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55) at July 19, 2021 02:27 PM (HaL55)

8 Even if he's not running, he has to say this.

He has to power broker, and by admitting this early that he's not running undermines that.

So, I don't know what he's doing. I could imagine it either way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 02:27 PM (LvTSG)

9 This is Trump, so it's quite likely he is seriously considering running again.

Option #2 is that Trump being Trump, he likes the attention and spotlight, so the longer he says he's going to run (even if he's not), the longer he keeps the spotlight.

Option #3 is related to #2 in that the second it looks like Trump won't actually run in 2024, all guns focus fire on the most Trumpian potential candidate: DeSantis. The longer that can be avoided, the better for DeSantis.

So probably a mix of all three, tbqh.

Posted by: can of spam at July 19, 2021 02:28 PM (i7Gob)

10 Good. Because what 2021 has been missing is more ORANGEMANBAD.

Posted by: flounder at July 19, 2021 02:28 PM (KnJdm)

11 I see no reason to get too worked up about this right now. We still have a mid-term. We still have to survive the Biden administration. As of now, I like both Trump and DeSantis. Whoever emerges, emerges. Maybe it will be someone else. We could all probably conjure up a dream scenario - but these things need to play themselves out.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 19, 2021 02:28 PM (sX1BW)

12 I'll vote for him off only to piss of the left and make them cheat even more as they are covered in their own election night flop sweat.

Posted by: Max Power at July 19, 2021 02:28 PM (Hucnr)

13 Anyone who's read his books knows he's running. If he thinks he was wronged, he will have his revenge.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 19, 2021 02:28 PM (kTF2Z)

14

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at July 19, 2021 02:28 PM (K2SnJ)

15 Seen a few closer confident saying the same thing.
On to 2024!

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM (Cxk7w)

16 Not to go all n-dimensional chess, or anything, but if Trump wanted to headfake the media and the Dems, so that DeSantis had a chance to govern without the burning hatred of the Demmedia, this is exactly what he'd do. He'd take a few friends aside, and tell them to "leak" it that he's running. I don't believe it.

Posted by: pep at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM (ZsR3z)

17 Strong Man Populist/SMOD 2024!

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM (WmGrA)

18 I don't buy it. Europe didn't get a strong man populist (at least, you know, after *those*), they just wore into a nub of what they once were and convinced themselves they were still happy.

I think as long as people are comfortable and have the internet they'll convince themselves that things are ok enough, and that the boat needn't be rocked.

Posted by: arminius256 at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM (Dpgtk)

19 >>>. . . FALL FOR HIS GRIFT ONCE AGAIN.

>>>ROMNEY/HALLEY 2024

James Madison won't get it.

Posted by: flounder at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM (KnJdm)

20 I'm done with Trump, he's a fucking idiot that I proudly voted for. But he's like your crazy drunk uncle that has constant rants you mostly agree with, but wouldn't so much as give your car keys to.

Also, I'm sick of pretending like everything Trump did was super conservative when it wasn't. From kicking off stimmie checks to the point he was outbidding what even Democrats wanted, corporate bailouts that put TARP to shame, being soft on crime because Kushner said blacks would love it, and on and.

If Trump gets nominated, we lose, and he takes out someone like DeSantis that actually can win. All to feed Trump's massive ego.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM (PwNLq)

21 "The Strong Man Populist coming soon will not have that weakness."

i wonder if the next guy will be our Pinochet?

or perhaps the last gasp before that point...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM (8D42x)

22 This is Trump, so it's quite likely he is seriously considering running again.

Option #2 is that Trump being Trump, he likes the attention and spotlight, so the longer he says he's going to run (even if he's not), the longer he keeps the spotlight.

Trump seems to like chaos because it keeps his options open and lets him see how people react. Plus, he carries a grudge. I still think that it was Obama's attacks during the WHCA dinner which cemented Trump's decision to run in 2016. I can believe that he wants to run again in 2024 to humiliate the establishment again.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM (jOcSX)

23 19 >>>. . . FALL FOR HIS GRIFT ONCE AGAIN.

>>>ROMNEY/HALLEY 2024

James Madison won't get it.
Posted by: flounder at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM (KnJdm)

=========

No, I got it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 02:30 PM (LvTSG)

24 Running DeSantis in '24, even if he wins, would give new life to the
NeverTrump wing of the GOP, who would see it as vindication.
I don't follow.

Posted by: pep at July 19, 2021 02:30 PM (ZsR3z)

25 Rolling Stone. A magazine so bad, it's not even worth crinkling up a thousand times to turn into toilet paper to wipe your ass with.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

26 I think Trump declines...Melania vetoes another run and its DeSantis....but I've been wrong, like a lot. As Mrs. Boswell points out.

I just think the media and Rolling Stone NEED Trump to run...like a sick drug addict, they have to have it.

Posted by: Boswell at July 19, 2021 02:30 PM (5iUNf)

27 I wonder if he is dining with any interesting Italians?

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2021 02:31 PM (VmZxp)

28 I'm not going to get my panties in a bunch until 2023 is getting closer. A hell of a lot can happen between now and then. Will they let us vote in the death camps? Or do we need to be dead first? Plus, my Mandarin is extremely rusty.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at July 19, 2021 02:31 PM (wAnMi)

29 I would prefer Trump (continue to) play the role of King Maker. I think he has an overabundance of capital he can throw behind the right candidates - especially if he were to return to doing rallies. I can see the opportunity to get seats back, not to mention unseat some of the squishes that call themselves Repubs.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 19, 2021 02:31 PM (N39Ws)

30 Meh... interesting that Trump thinks he'll be afforded a chance to run again. He might want to stick his head outside whatever bubble he's living in and survey the landscape. He'll never get on a ballot except for a handful of states... maybe.

I suppose things can change, but I don't see that happening anytime soon.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2021 02:31 PM (BFigT)

31 21 "The Strong Man Populist coming soon will not have that weakness."

i wonder if the next guy will be our Pinochet?

or perhaps the last gasp before that point...
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM (8D42x)

Not all countries get Pinochet or Stalin. Presently we have Caligula.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 19, 2021 02:31 PM (z5Vrg)

32 Hate to sound like a pessimist, (because I'm not as far as eternal verities are concerned) but with all the voting fraud that Democrats now know how to do really well, we may never get a Populist to win for President-unless the Strong Man Populist is going to be a dictator and how would that happen if the military is on the side of Big State?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 19, 2021 02:32 PM (k39e/)

33 Even though my vote won't count, I'll vote for him if his slogan is "Make Traitors Hang Again!" just on principle.

Posted by: ShainS at July 19, 2021 02:32 PM (iBMrD)

34 Why not? But then there won't be an honest election in 2024, either so it doesn't matter a whole lot.

Unless something big happens between now and then. Who knows?

Posted by: Ziba at July 19, 2021 02:32 PM (S1hrL)

35 I'm gonna run for the border and get me a taco bowl.

Posted by: Donny Two Scoops at July 19, 2021 02:32 PM (b/ZXL)

36 Rolling Stone, ha. At least we know what the whole story isn't.

Posted by: t-bird at July 19, 2021 02:32 PM (9Fwwf)

37 I don't follow.
Posted by: pep at July 19, 2021 02:30 PM (ZsR3z)

They'll have beaten Trump and gotten him out of politics. They'll run the same playbook against DeSantis. Or, worse, they'll coopt him.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 02:32 PM (jOcSX)

38 7 You can't have my guvnor. We need him down here. He's right on the front line of defense against Walter The Puppet and his ChiCom masters.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. (HaL55)

No other alternatives in FL than DeathSantis?

Posted by: clutch at July 19, 2021 02:32 PM (9UmRs)

39 Some prog somewhere is frantically searching for naked photos of Mrs. DeSantis.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 19, 2021 02:32 PM (ptqGC)

40 Zombie norms will not restrain the Strong Man Populist.

Trump is not that guy. He proved it both during his time in the White House when he played along with all those nominally on his side who were working against them as well as sat on his hands while those working for him did nothing of the sort. His totally disjointed two weeks after election day when it was critical - absolutely critical - to have a plan, stay on message, and speak plainly, forcefully, and often sealed the deal for me.

I voted for him twice. Won't a third. He is not the guy. If he's the nominee - there's no reason why the DNC and GOP shouldn't conspire to rig it again.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 19, 2021 02:32 PM (/fp1w)

41 DeSantis has the same problem Trump did in '16; he doesn't have a network in DC. He'll bring all his guys from FLA but what do they know and who do they know in DC?

Not only that with things as they are he'll be surrounded by the very people who hated Trump and balked him at every turn and they'll do this to DeSantis too.

Let's let Trump see if he learned anything and got some staff and some plans. Let DeSantis keep Fla. Red for the next 8 years and maybe then he'll be able to fit right in as some of these loser fake GOP will be gone.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 02:33 PM (wb4G5)

42 Not to go all n-dimensional chess, or anything, but
if Trump wanted to headfake the media and the Dems, so that DeSantis had
a chance to govern without the burning hatred of the Demmedia, this is
exactly what he'd do. He'd take a few friends aside, and tell them to
"leak" it that he's running. I don't believe it.

Posted by: pep at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM

Yep, Trump is not going to run, he just wants to create the illusion that he is going to run.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 19, 2021 02:33 PM (JUOKG)

43 added tweets showing the death of the media, losing half their audience (including newspapers)

Posted by: ace at July 19, 2021 02:33 PM (0G13K)

44 I don't trust DeSantis. He reminds me of a career politician.

Posted by: Archer at July 19, 2021 02:33 PM (cxRP5)

45 Rolling Stone. A magazine so bad, it's not even worth crinkling up a thousand times to turn into toilet paper to wipe your ass with.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

Outdated song...
https://youtu.be/KuvfIePDbgY

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2021 02:33 PM (mZUr4)

46 "Mass-micturation" *snort*

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess, #SuperStraight #maskless (Mzdiz) at July 19, 2021 02:33 PM (Mzdiz)

47 First Citizen Barron Trump will be the one to sit on the Throne of Skulls after they kill Donald and Melania.

Six foot twenty made of radiation
Present beware, future beware
He's coming, he's coming, he's coming

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 19, 2021 02:33 PM (yQpMk)

48 The passenger flight logs to Epstein Island are getting dog-eared.

Posted by: Ziba at July 19, 2021 02:34 PM (S1hrL)

49 DeSantis has the same problem Trump did in '16; he doesn't have a network in DC. He'll bring all his guys from FLA but what do they know and who do they know in DC?

Who cares? DC is broken. Fire everyone. Bring in YOUR people. Get everyone else out.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)

50 DAMN!!!
Kurt Schlichter is singing my song!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2021 02:34 PM (axyOa)

51 >>So the elite fight back, aided and abetted by the surrender caucus of formerly relevant conservagrifters who take a break from thinking about their pool boys and their wives to come out and explain why True Conservatism(TM) means absolute submission to whatever the establishment wants.

This reads like he is cribbing straight from the Comments.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2021 02:34 PM (VmZxp)

52 Not all countries get Pinochet or Stalin. Presently we have Caligula.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 19, 2021 02:31 PM (z5Vrg)

i expected the circuses to be more entertaining...

I wonder who is stuck banging the senators wives to pay off the debt...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at July 19, 2021 02:35 PM (8D42x)

53

General, you may spin up...

Posted by: A.P. at July 19, 2021 02:35 PM (XwL4B)

54 Dinner buddies? What the fuck is this?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 19, 2021 02:35 PM (HJR1G)

55 After 2008 I no longer believe any of these rumors coming out of DC.

Posted by: Vic at July 19, 2021 02:36 PM (mpXpK)

56 They'll have beaten Trump and gotten him out of politics. Who would be persuaded by this? The people who cheated to install Biden? The people who already think Trump lost in '16? The only people left are proTrumpers, and they' aren't buying it.
They'll run
the same playbook against DeSantis. Or, worse, they'll coopt him.
They won't coopt him. Come on. Also, we've seen the playbook now. It isn't going to get easier to cheat on a massive scale unless HR1 passes.

Posted by: pep at July 19, 2021 02:36 PM (ZsR3z)

57 DeSantis has the same problem Trump did in '16; he doesn't have a network in DC. He'll bring all his guys from FLA but what do they know and who do they know in DC?

Not only that with things as they are he'll be surrounded by the very people who hated Trump and balked him at every turn and they'll do this to DeSantis too.

Let's let Trump see if he learned anything and got some staff and some plans. Let DeSantis keep Fla. Red for the next 8 years and maybe then he'll be able to fit right in as some of these loser fake GOP will be gone.
Posted by: jakee308

People like Reagan and Bush had no problem coming in from being Governor into DC. This is unique to Trump, he just had no idea how to manage an organization. Trump was more celebrity than a real strategic, organized businessman.

I'm just done with the excuses for all Trump's fuck ups. Sounds like Ace is too.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:36 PM (PwNLq)

58 11 I see no reason to get too worked up about this right now. We still have a mid-term. We still have to survive the Biden administration. As of now, I like both Trump and DeSantis. Whoever emerges, emerges. Maybe it will be someone else. We could all probably conjure up a dream scenario - but these things need to play themselves out.
Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 19, 2021 02:28 PM (sX1BW)

The fact that there isn't another viable candidate, outside of Trump and DeSantis, speaks volumes about the state of the Republican Party. DeSantis has had this lane open to him for a couple of years now, and nobody other than Noem has even tried to challenge him. Pathetic.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 19, 2021 02:36 PM (mdjgu)

59 DeSantis has the same problem Trump did in '16;
he doesn't have a network in DC. He'll bring all his guys from FLA but
what do they know and who do they know in DC?

Who cares? DC is broken. Fire everyone. Bring in YOUR people. Get everyone else out.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)

I said from day one Trump should have focused on shrinking DC. Send the agencies far and wide. It would have done a lot of good. sure Hawaiian judges would have blocked the moves but you have to make them first.

Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 02:36 PM (F2/Ok)

60 DeSantis a favorite with conservatives will not be able to pull in the vast cross section of voters that Trump will.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 19, 2021 02:36 PM (qleR6)

61 45 Rolling Stone. A magazine so bad, it's not even worth crinkling up a thousand times to turn into toilet paper to wipe your ass with.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

you have no idea of true desparation

Posted by: REDACTED at July 19, 2021 02:36 PM (YK4Qh)

62 I hear he had 2 scoop of ice cream at this dinner.

Impeachment time.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 19, 2021 02:37 PM (dFgCe)

63 Micturiction -- I got an A on my 10th grade biology test for knowing what it meant. I've never forgotten it since.

Posted by: Ziba at July 19, 2021 02:37 PM (S1hrL)

64 When you read Kurt, it's easy to see what lazy, obsequious, cowardly, weak, apathetic, grifting clowns Republicans are.

Nobody fights for us. Nobody stands up for what is right. Nobody senses any urgency to change things and none of those caitiffs have any plans other then to hold a hearing. Maybe a fundraiser.

Is that really what we want in a new Republican majority? Hell no, and people like that weak platitude machine and Frank Luntz pool boy should step aside. Because they've shown they have less stones than some of the women we recently elected and they have no plan to Marshall the troops and kick some ass.

By the way- why is Trump meeting with McCarthy when he should be pushing for his ouster?

Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 19, 2021 02:37 PM (njahg)

65 >>i expected the circuses to be more entertaining...

I read that as 'circumcision'.

And I thought...that guy is weird.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2021 02:37 PM (VmZxp)

66 Why have they taken over the military and instituted a purge have you not notice they can loot burn and murder with perhaos a alap on the wrist the greater the crime the greater the lie to cover for it.

Posted by: Alien covenant was worse at July 19, 2021 02:37 PM (hMlTh)

67 But here's the thing, if Trump truly believed he was completely robbed and it's all rigged, why would he run again?

I'm not saying there wasn't massive fraud, but if I was 100% convinced the table was stacked in a way I couldn't possibly win, why do it?

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:38 PM (PwNLq)

68 If Trump decides to run, he will be the nominee, period, end of story.

The bigger issue is how badly will the GOP rat fuck him and will elections even be a thing by 2024.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 19, 2021 02:38 PM (mu7kg)

69 Populist are difficult in America. They are very occasional, and most of the time, they don't win. But there is always an underlayment of populism in the voting public.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 19, 2021 02:38 PM (sX1BW)

70 Trump is Telling His "Dinner Pals" He's Running in 2024
.........

Good. This should drive the already bonkers media off the deep end.

Posted by: wth at July 19, 2021 02:38 PM (v0R5T)

71 The first point there by Schlichter is the key one, what do you do when you don't have the politicians, the police, the courts, the media, the schools, or big tech in your corner. The Left is 100% in control of the govt and vote counting process. I wish I could see a political answer, but I can't.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 19, 2021 02:38 PM (r+sAi)

72 59 DeSantis has the same problem Trump did in '16;
he doesn't have a network in DC. He'll bring all his guys from FLA but
what do they know and who do they know in DC?

feature not a bug

you do not want a person that has a network in DC

think Bush

Posted by: REDACTED at July 19, 2021 02:38 PM (YK4Qh)

73

"Three-peat!!!!"

- - Dao-Min Yen

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 19, 2021 02:38 PM (s2VJv)

74 The big orange and white is prowling my backyard scooping up food i've tossed. Much smaller Pretty Girl, who terrorizes any kitterloper, is locked inside.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 19, 2021 02:38 PM (KAi1n)

75 Sure, sure. "Dinner buddies" of Donald Trump routinely feed their conversations to the media.

Posted by: t-bird at July 19, 2021 02:38 PM (1vynn)

76 I'd give quite a bit to the Strongman in Mirrored Aviators who promised to throw Pelosi out of a helo.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2021 02:39 PM (VmZxp)

77 It is 3 years away before any of this gets real. Have they started releasing 2024 polls yet? I predict Generic Republican will led Harris by 5 in the first one.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 19, 2021 02:39 PM (dFgCe)

78 I'll vote for Trump if he's the candidate but his handling of Covid, the national debt and Antifa/BLM riots has taken any shine off of any of his accomplishments for me. Turns out they were all temporary.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 19, 2021 02:39 PM (2DOZq)

79 "DeSantis a favorite with conservatives will not be able to pull in the vast cross section of voters that Trump will."

You pulled that out of your ass. Did you actually look at the demographics of who elected DeSantis? How about his current base of support? People moving into Florida? National support?

No of course you didn't.

Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 19, 2021 02:39 PM (njahg)

80 76 I'd give quite a bit to the Strongman in Mirrored Aviators who promised to throw Pelosi out of a helo.
Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2021 02:39 PM (VmZxp)

"Hola!"

- - Augusto Pinochet

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (s2VJv)

81 Trump or DeSantis.
Regardless...if they win, it will be the mother of all landslides just to beat the cheating. Can you imagine the riots that will tear the cities apart?
Buy popcorn and ammo.
Get ready.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (axyOa)

82 I said from day one Trump should have focused on shrinking DC. Send the agencies far and wide. It would have done a lot of good. sure Hawaiian judges would have blocked the moves but you have to make them first.
Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 02:36 PM (F2/Ok)

He tried. The bureaucracy fought tooth and nail, and Congress backed them.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (jOcSX)

83 .........

Good. This should drive the already bonkers media off the deep end.
Posted by: wth at July 19, 2021 02:38 PM (v0R5T)

Trump is the maestro and the media is the fiddle.

They're getting played to perfection.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)

84 As long as sources are not named and directly quoted, they're just making shit up.

Fuck
The press. They're lying again.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (0PYT3)

85 He's backing some candidates for 2022 and going for the throat of others (Murchowski).

One metric will be Trump's coat tails.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (qleR6)

86 Meant to say 2 years not 3.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (dFgCe)

87 Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:38 PM (PwNLq)

no one brings them in like Trump. There is no denying it. yes we are all conservative, but it is fun to support Trump because the Left hates him so and they can't get anyone that actually excites their people.

Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (F2/Ok)

88 Dinner buddies? What the fuck is this?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 19, 2021 02:35 PM (HJR1G)

Dudes enjoying some hamberders together

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (mZUr4)

89 DeSantis a favorite with conservatives will not be able to pull in the vast cross section of voters that Trump will.
Posted by: Braenyard

I disagree, I think Trump's message was what resonated, not his celebrity silliness.

There were working class whites that didn't like Koch Bros corporate conservatism, but Trump flipped the script.

Just changing the stance on free trade was probably why the Rust Belt went Red.

I voted for Trump despite Trump being Trump.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (PwNLq)

90 They'll have beaten Trump and gotten him out of politics. They'll run the same playbook against DeSantis. Or, worse, they'll coopt him.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 02:32 PM (jOcSX)

This is why I'm not fully onboard the DeSantis train, although I really like what I've seen so far. DeSantis has no real base, other than this fine blog and the lucky people of FL. He's not a billionaire, so he's going to have to either solicit funds from millions of small donors, or kowtow to the GOPe. He's committed to reelection so far, so he's not beginning to grow either that base or his bucks until 2023. At this point, I'd bet he has as much name recognition with the LIVs as Scott Walker did in his day. The good it ultimately did him.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (mdjgu)

91 that guy is weird.
Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2021 02:37 PM (VmZxp)

well, you're not wrong...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at July 19, 2021 02:41 PM (8D42x)

92 All the ladies love a military man.

Posted by: Gen. Eric Republican, USAF ret at July 19, 2021 02:41 PM (yQpMk)

93 Oh please. This is more gaslighting by the leftwing media to try to agitate their idiot audience and boost their flaccid ratings. Do I think Trump will run again? 50/50. But Trump's friends certainly aren't blabbing to Rolling Fucking Stone about what he is telling them.

Posted by: Elric Blade at July 19, 2021 02:41 PM (iFTx/)

94 Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 02:34 PM (Zz0t1)

I don't think anyone that doesn't have a party machine behind them or done a lot of work behind the scenes for years could have a large enough Org to take to DC and make it work. (and no Trump was a donor not a player. He knew all the people but he didn't know all the ins and outs and the depth of treason in the bureaucracy.)

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 02:41 PM (wb4G5)

95 I'll vote for Trump if he's the candidate but his handling of Covid, the national debt and Antifa/BLM riots has taken any shine off of any of his accomplishments for me. Turns out they were all temporary.
Posted by: Just a side note

What about us?

Hahaha. Just kidding.

Posted by: Amy and Brett sittin' on the bench at July 19, 2021 02:42 PM (WmGrA)

96 I guess Yahoo was so far in the basement that they didn't have very far that they could fall...?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at July 19, 2021 02:42 PM (K58O6)

97 The fact that there isn't another viable candidate, outside of Trump and
DeSantis, speaks volumes about the state of the Republican Party.
I could see Hawley, Cotton, Pompeo and maybe (I know, I know) Crenshaw. Pompeo doesn't have Trumpian charisma, but that's so rare, I don't think it's a requirement.

Posted by: pep at July 19, 2021 02:42 PM (ZsR3z)

98 if he says he is running, that means he is not running.

Posted by: Mo Cheesecake at July 19, 2021 02:42 PM (LJaEn)

99 I don't agree that DeSantis should run. Not this cycle. We need the viciousness and vengefulness of a Trump 2nd term to literally tear out as much deep state as he can. I don't think RD is built for that sort of behavio.
RD would be a great follow-up to Trump's 4-year period of tearing things apart. RD would then step in and continue to force the conservative agenda with his own hard style.

We need Trump to finish what he started. RD can't do that.

Posted by: Sukie Tawdry at July 19, 2021 02:42 PM (nklea)

100 So basically the argument is DeSantis is not Trump, ergo he, not anyone else will ever win. Got it.

Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 19, 2021 02:42 PM (njahg)

101
Back from the vet with Delilah. Her Majesty and the handler thought she was a little lame in the ring this weekend, so we took her in for X-rays.

They're not good. She has some thickening of the bone in her right front leg just below the shoulder. It could just be some inflammation or infection. Or it could be cancer. The films have been sent to a radiologist for analysis. She was prescribed some painkillers.

We hope for the best but fear the worst. Spare a prayer for our little girl.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2021 02:42 PM (mht8P)

102 DeSantis will be just as stymied as Trump was. The presidency is a false prize. You can't fire enough people to make it work, and you can't get good people through confirmation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 19, 2021 02:42 PM (3p5uk)

103 I truly do not think Melania will let him run.

She has no love for DC, and I doubt she wants to return to that fishbowl.

Posted by: SMH at July 19, 2021 02:43 PM (q/Mbq)

104 79 "DeSantis a favorite with conservatives will not be able to pull in the vast cross section of voters that Trump will."
...
No of course you didn't.
Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 19, 2021 02:39 PM (njahg
-----------------

Speaking of asses.

Trump has mass national appeal.
DeSantis has mass Florida appeal.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 19, 2021 02:43 PM (qleR6)

105 Some prog somewhere is frantically searching for naked photos of Mrs. DeSantis.

Posted by: Jane D'Oh #Impeach Foady Six! at July 19, 2021 02:32 PM (ptqGC)

------

"Photoshop is your friend! Plus, I have 300 women already who will come forward and admit to being forced to be the caboose of the DeSantis Rape Train in college." -- Gloria Allred, Scumbag at Law

Posted by: ShainS at July 19, 2021 02:43 PM (iBMrD)

106 As long as sources are not named and directly quoted, they're just making shit up.

Fuck
The press. They're lying again.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (0PYT3)
***

The media is the enemy. Treat them accordingly.
At every echelon.
After 2022, I can only see the slippery slope getting steeper.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 19, 2021 02:43 PM (axyOa)

107 Trump got elected for one reason . His stance on immigration and the wall. He pivoted to other issues once elected and did fairly well establishing some conservative cred.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 19, 2021 02:43 PM (2DOZq)

108 "If we let them prove Trump won in 2020, and we claim the Constitution can do nothing about it, he's not allowed to run in 2024!"

Posted by: t-bird at July 19, 2021 02:43 PM (ELgVT)

109 So Schlichter predicts the rise of Zombie Pinochet in 2024. Fun in concept, but I doubt it will happen so fast. It took a decade for Tea Party activists to find Trump.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 19, 2021 02:43 PM (p1I/V)

110 Should DJT run again and win (who the hell knows), I do not think he would be stupid enough to repeat the mistakes of the past as suggested above. DeSaintis is too good/saintly to be true. Beware.

Posted by: Ziba at July 19, 2021 02:43 PM (S1hrL)

111 I said from day one Trump should have focused on shrinking DC. Send the agencies far and wide. It would have done a lot of good. sure Hawaiian judges would have blocked the moves but you have to make them first.
Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 02:36 PM (F2/Ok

I personally know someone who was boo-hooing about Trump de-centralizing the BLM. She was so upset that the grifters were choosing to quit rather than be moved away from the DC graft.

I sympathized that the upheaval made her job harder, but the fact that these people she was so upset over were quitting over it should have opened her eyes a bit.

Posted by: Emmie -- we need more Trump, not less at July 19, 2021 02:44 PM (Hrwnm)

112 The msm would love Trump to run again. He is a ratings gold mine.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 19, 2021 02:44 PM (dFgCe)

113 Flick the Bic, indeed.
Indeed.

Col. Schlicter may have been more talk than action but the talk is good.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 02:44 PM (uxJPn)

114 Good grief, Trump's got more then two years before he has to start thinking about it seriously.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 19, 2021 02:44 PM (qH6FZ)

115 I think let Trump run. Isn't this what primaries are for? If DeSantis is stronger (support wise) he wins. If not I'm pretty sure he'd make a fine vp. Minus the left stupidity, we could've ridden out the 'rona crap, the economy would actually be "roaring back". Plus, you know it would crush the left!

Posted by: pahound at July 19, 2021 02:44 PM (G6vNF)

116 All the ladies love a military man.

Posted by: Gen. Eric Republican, USAF ret at July 19, 2021 02:41 PM (yQpMk)

You asked for it...
https://youtu.be/_Pws_cquzns

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2021 02:44 PM (mZUr4)

117 "but I'd really prefer DeathSantis."

why?

so the return to the God-awful status quo can be complete?

anyone who thinks DeSantis anything other than a career politician is engaging in wishful thinking.

it's Trump or nothing

because those are the only real choices.

Posted by: Shoey77 at July 19, 2021 02:44 PM (fcWVN)

118 I'll bet Trump has learned a lot on how to play the game now and especially more in 3 years. I'm in whether he runs or runs it from behind the curtain like Bronco Bama is now. Can't believe mean tweets still bother people, lol. A lot meaner shit going on now.

Posted by: dartist at July 19, 2021 02:44 PM (+ya+t)

119 OK. First Schlichter, then Ace. Trump is actually the ONLY REASON for DeSantis being governor in the FIRST place, otherwise he would have been beaten by meth-head nekkid Gillum. Meanwhile, Trump gets 80+++ million REAL votes (screw the fraud "75 million votes total"), and should be in the oval office today. Keep in mind those are TRUMP rallies that fill venues, not "DeSantis rallies."
Look, I think DeSantis is a fine man. But Donald Trump is still on top of his game, actually STILL IS as he's working in the background to single-handedly wrench the control of the GOP from the elites to the populists, and his endorsements are GOLD.
Finally, let's face it: DeSantis should be governor for another four years to really cement his populist commitment, then in 2026 he can take two years supporting then-Trump's third term (pragmatically) before becoming the odd-on favorite to continuing his legacy.

Posted by: Jonah Kyle at July 19, 2021 02:44 PM (R4j1g)

120 The way the NeverTrumpers and the Ben Shapiros cling so much to DeSantis makes me weary about him being another Kavanaugh. I know what I'm getting with Trump, 70% of what I want with a big fuck you. I'd rather have that then nothing with a side of tough sounding Daily Caller staffer tweets.

Posted by: ThousandSunny at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (lEHGQ)

121 no one brings them in like Trump. There is no denying it. yes we are all conservative, but it is fun to support Trump because the Left hates him so and they can't get anyone that actually excites their people.
Posted by: Quint

But it didn't work, so why keep trying the same formula?

If the same person that went to a Trump rally is going to sit out the election without him, I guess its all lost anyway.

Is the conservative movement bigger than Trump or is it just going to be a cult of personality?

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (PwNLq)

122 The bigger issue is how badly will the GOP rat f*** him and will elections even be a thing by 2024.
We have another 2+ years for the GOPe to contemplate their imminent demise if they pull that s*** again. My prediction is that they won't, because they like being important and want to stay that way.

Posted by: pep at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (ZsR3z)

123 If DeSantis can come out with a simple goal and plan that appeals to the common folk then he might make it.

It's still too big a place. You can't possibly bring enough trustworthy people that you can rely on to maintain control.

There's just too many ways to stymie a President. And with the majority of the bureaucracy being union which means Democrat you got a handful of trouble just to start with.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (wb4G5)

124 I will say I was fooled by Amy and Brett too. There previous decisions seemed to be based on just selecting a path to scotus.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (r+sAi)

125 What is the "What if he runs in '24?" nonsense? He just got robbed of a win last November, and our entire system of the Representative Republic was heaved out onto the curb by the stinking rats. What makes anybody think the same thing isn't going to happen in '22?

Additionally, the Audit in Arizona is showing that some 74,000 mail-in ballots were counted that were never sent out in the first place. Access logs have been deliberately erased. Ballots were ruined by the use of Sharpies on election day, even though they were not supposed to be used. The canvass hasn't even started yet and it already looks like Arizona will be pulled off the board. Georgia and Penn. will follow with full-scale Audits. What will happen when it is conclusively shown that Biden is utterly illegitimate, and only achieved office through fraud?

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (cjlB3)

126 102 DeSantis will be just as stymied as Trump was. The presidency is a false prize. You can't fire enough people to make it work, and you can't get good people through confirmation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 19, 2021 02:42 PM (3p5uk)

This is the other reason I'm not quite on the DeSantis train. I can't trust that any 'conservative' that signs onto DeSantis would be there to help him implement any of his agenda. They'd use Heavy D as lipstick for the pig of NeverTrumpism.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (mdjgu)

127
She has no love for DC, and I doubt she wants to return to that fishbowl.
Posted by: SMH at July 19, 2021 02:43 PM (q/Mbq)
----------------

She's kind of a mystery.
Barron's going to be in ore close to college by 2024 and they may have one pissed off Slav to deal with.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (qleR6)

128 A columnist I read this morning (sorry, forget the link) didn't want Trump to run unless certain criteria were met:
1. Will you acknowledge you fucked up by trusting the "experts" on Kung Flu?
2. Are you running because you think you can save America or because you want revenge for 2020?
3. Have you learned to fire assholes who defy you or block your wishes?

My questions are two:
1. Are you going to treat the MFM as the enemy you say they are, or let them use you as a fucking pinata as they did for four years?
2. When the military, the various cabinet departments, unelected judges and various people who serve at the pleasure of the president defy you, are you going to shitcan them, or are you going to tweet about it?

I'll give Trump the benefit of the doubt for the last four years. If he doesn't go scorched earth from day one of a second term, I have no use for him.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (2JVJo)

129 I think if Trump wanted to really help the country he'd make himself Republican King-maker.

Just don't become like the Earl Warwick in the end.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (J/jcg)

130 >> Schlichter predicts the rise of Zombie Pinochet in 2024.

That Jesse Kelly dude has been saying this for quite some time.

Then he pusses out and pretends he doesn't want to see Commies thrown out of Helicopters...

which is a lie.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (VmZxp)

131 I'd give quite a bit to the Strongman in Mirrored Aviators who promised to throw Pelosi out of a helo.
Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2021 02:39 PM (VmZxp)

CAN we draft Razorfist for that role?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (uxJPn)

132 I sympathized that the upheaval made her job harder,
but the fact that these people she was so upset over were quitting over
it should have opened her eyes a bit.

Posted by: Emmie -- we need more Trump, not less at July 19, 2021 02:44 PM (Hrwnm)

it was a good move. I am glad they were mad. no ill will towards anyone, but if you work for the BLM and can't leave Georgetown or Vienna, there is a problem.

Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (F2/Ok)

133 We need the viciousness and vengefulness of a Trump 2nd term to literally tear out as much deep state as he can.

We're doing the Pence / Barr Mistake again. Projecting traits on people they've never demonstrated themselves.

Posted by: Arrow Straight at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (/fp1w)

134 will say I was fooled by Amy and Brett too. There previous decisions seemed to be based on just selecting a path to scotus.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (r+sAi)

Gorsuch is no prize either.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (2DOZq)

135 The Tea Party was the polite request. Trump was the less polite request. It doesn't get more polite from here.

Of course, I didn't expect the form of the next destroyer to be a JAGoff but, eh, whatchugonnado.

I don't want Trump to run in 2024 because he will be 78 and I am tired of being ruled by nigh and actual octogenarians.

Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (mf5HN)

136
CAN we draft Razorfist for that role?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (uxJPn)

Razorfist should be the White House Spokesman for the next Trump administration.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 02:47 PM (jOcSX)

137 What will happen when it is conclusively shown that Biden is utterly illegitimate, and only achieved office through fraud?
___

Nothing.

Who's going to yank Biden from office?

The courts?

Law enforcement?

The military?

Posted by: SMH at July 19, 2021 02:47 PM (q/Mbq)

138 Why does a cult of personality get such bad press?

There's a lot to be said for someone with some charisma and confidence in themselves and their plans.

With that it's easy for a cult to form as so many politicians are just so much dirty dishwater.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 02:47 PM (wb4G5)

139 Does it matter?

Seriously. They stole it in 2020. In 2024 they will only have gotten better at stealing it. And even when caught red handed like the duffel bag of votes in Atlanta they shrugged and went on with their business. Scotus shrugged too. Basically told the Dems do what you want from now on, we sure s fuck will not get in the way.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 19, 2021 02:48 PM (dFgCe)

140 I would happily vote for Trump or DeSantis. At the moment, I can't think of anyone else who has proven themselves to not be back-stabbers.

Posted by: Emmie -- we need more Trump, not less at July 19, 2021 02:48 PM (Hrwnm)

141
You asked for it...
https://youtu.be/_Pws_cquzns
Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2021 02:44 PM (mZUr4)

WOOF that was bad........On topic, but ouch.....

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 02:48 PM (Zz0t1)

142 If Trump's going to do it he damn well better bring a pipe wrench and a blow torch this go around.

Posted by: Bosk at July 19, 2021 02:48 PM (FgPjD)

143 Also, I want DeSantis in Florida because the best way to neutralize DC is to get and keep strong governors and state legislatures.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 02:48 PM (jOcSX)

144 >>Why does a cult of personality get such bad press?

Dude.

That Song was a monster.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2021 02:48 PM (VmZxp)

145 Is the conservative movement bigger than Trump or is it just going to be a cult of personality?
Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (PwNLq)

After this Jan, I'd say the 'conservative movement' can't pour piss out of a boot with the instructions written on the heel.

The Republic died and the Democrats were permitted to seize power and keep sucking oxygen.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 02:48 PM (uxJPn)

146
82 I said from day one Trump should have focused on shrinking DC. Send the agencies far and wide. It would have done a lot of good. sure Hawaiian judges would have blocked the moves but you have to make them first.
Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 02:36 PM (F2/Ok)

He tried. The bureaucracy fought tooth and nail, and Congress backed them.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (jOcSX)

One win there; USDA was moved to KC. Something like half the agency retired instead. Win.

Posted by: Catherine at July 19, 2021 02:48 PM (jXv4O)

147 Trump the Magnificent is living rent free in their mental closets. So of course he says he will run, like many of us he wants to see heads exploding ala Scanners.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2021 02:49 PM (ObMtJ)

148 don't want Trump to run in 2024 because he will be 78 and I am tired of being ruled by nigh and actual octogenarians.

Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (mf5HN)

+1

I'm still an advocate for mandatory retirement for any elected or appointed Fed position , including the SC. 74 is my number. Some probably would like lower. You can serve out your term if elected prior to being 74.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 19, 2021 02:49 PM (2DOZq)

149 Sukie Tawdry
How're Lotte Lenya and old Lucy Brown?

Posted by: pep at July 19, 2021 02:49 PM (ZsR3z)

150 A Trump win would be gratifying if only to see the GOPe ESAD.

Posted by: Ziba at July 19, 2021 02:49 PM (S1hrL)

151
it was a good move. I am glad they were mad. no ill will towards anyone, but if you work for the BLM and can't leave Georgetown or Vienna, there is a problem.
Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (F2/Ok)

Yep. They must have resented missing out on the cocktail parties.

Posted by: Emmie -- we need more Trump, not less at July 19, 2021 02:50 PM (Hrwnm)

152 But on topic, I like Trump. But he apparently believes in playing by the rules. And the other side has no rules but Power.

We need to win and punish our enemies.

Flick the Bic.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 02:50 PM (uxJPn)

153 Suckie Tawdry?

Partner for Busy Danger?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2021 02:50 PM (ObMtJ)

154 Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 02:46 PM (mf5HN)

Hmm. As one approaching that milestone (or millstone) I completely overlooked Trump's age. That could be a factor.

I just don't believe anyone can, in a short amount of time, build up a cadre that can take control in DC and actually get things done and keep from getting done in themselves.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 02:50 PM (wb4G5)

155 What will happen when it is conclusively shown that Biden is utterly illegitimate, and only achieved office through fraud?
Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (cjlB3)

Where will it be "conclusively shown" to the lefties and LIVs?? FB? CNN? Legacy networks?

Mini-true won't report it.

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2021 02:50 PM (mZUr4)

156 If nothing else, Trump becomes the stalking-horse. CNN's,MSNBC's ratings go up-fullback for DeSantis. Trump still haunts their nightmares and dreams.

Posted by: pahound at July 19, 2021 02:50 PM (G6vNF)

157 Well if he runs I would vote for him just to keep the likes of Pence and Jeb out of office.

Posted by: f'd at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (Tnijr)

158 Staking my marker down now:

The GOP will not allow DJT to get the party's presidential nomination ever again. Whatever it takes, even if it atomizes the party into a thousand pieces, they (or more accurately, the *donors who pay for them*) won't let it happen.

They'll change the primary rules if they have to. For example, create "Super Delegates" like the Democrats have. Making sure those super delegates are squishy civility-fetishists like themselves, who will be pledged to anyone - a n y o n e - but Trump.

Posted by: Hands at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (786Ro)

159 I don't want Trump to run in 2024 because he will be 78 and I am tired of being ruled by nigh and actual octogenarians. ------------------------------- I do have my doubts that a Boomer will end up leading the change that we need. He may get it started, but I don't think he will get it done. Frankly, the changes that need to be made may have to be made after the Boomers have lost much of their political capital. We still have a few terms to go.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (sX1BW)

160 While I like DeathSantis bigly, I have certainly come to appreciate the thought of a comeback of a Trump Once Scorned.
Trump is the guy who got 81 million votes in 2020 and the junta who usurped is actively destroying the nation even faster than they were before.
Death To Junta America.

Posted by: (jV+aN) President Orange Man Bad (Rheees Be Upon Him) at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (jV+aN)

161 52 Not all countries get Pinochet or Stalin. Presently we have Caligula.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 19, 2021 02:31 PM (z5Vrg)

i expected the circuses to be more entertaining...

I wonder who is stuck banging the senators wives to pay off the debt...
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at July 19, 2021 02:35 PM (8D42x)

*******

I'm certain that my Democrat senator, Fat John Tester, can be bought off for a couple of Free-All-You-Can-Eat tickets to Golden Corral.

Posted by: Blor Utar, From Zimtok-5 at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (xxG/v)

162 Cult of Personality?

I'm out.

Posted by: Jeb Bush at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (VmZxp)

163 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2021 02:42 PM (mht8P)

Prayers up to you, yours and Delilah.

Posted by: Bosk at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (FgPjD)

164 Trump is still neck deep inside their decision loops.

He is throwing a monkey wrench into their thinking.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (ObMtJ)

165 Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:29 PM (PwNLq)

Just because we say he was more conservative than the GOPe (a fact) doesn't mean anyone here thinks Trump was some sort of rock-ribbed conserva-hero.

No other candidate could have done what he did for our side, not the least of which was exposing just how many fvcking frauds have been hiding out on the Right.

Posted by: McLurkerson at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (wNDOJ)

166 WOOF that was bad........On topic, but ouch.....
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 02:48 PM (Zz0t1)

Haha -- try to unhear that!!

Posted by: Doof at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (mZUr4)

167 138 Why does a cult of personality get such bad press?

There's a lot to be said for someone with some charisma and confidence in themselves and their plans.

With that it's easy for a cult to form as so many politicians are just so much dirty dishwater.
Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 02:47 PM (wb4G5)

Followers need leaders. Trump is the first leader that we've seen since Reagan.

That said, do you know anybody that identifies themselves as an Obama Democrat? A Clinton Democrat? Tells you all you need to know about the quality of their leadership.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (mdjgu)

168 I just don't believe anyone can, in a short amount of time, build up a cadre that can take control in DC and actually get things done and keep from getting done in themselves.
Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 02:50 PM (wb4G5)

Trump would need to call up some hard pipe-hitting Brothers to go medieval on their ass.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (yQpMk)

169
I'd like to see Vanilli Milley flap his fat arms from 3,000 feet up...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (s2VJv)

170 Does a president have to live at the White House? If a president was in, say, Texas and pushed a EO out the door (or any sort of proclamation) and it's contested... is that in Texas, DC or a venue TBD?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (BFigT)

171 That Song was a monster.
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That guitar riff knock your wig hat off.

Posted by: dartist at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (+ya+t)

172 Razorfist should be the White House Spokesman for the next Trump administration.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 02:47 PM (jOcSX)

Seconded. Woe be the fortunes of anyone who dare cross that wordsmith.

He's rhetorically slapped people in his rants so hard that I've needed to put aloe on my cheek just from the concussive shock of it.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (J/jcg)

173 If it is conclusively shown (good luck with that), that Biden is illegitimate...he will be given the name Bastard Biden.

Posted by: Ziba at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (S1hrL)

174 That said, do you know anybody that identifies themselves as an Obama Democrat? A Clinton Democrat? Tells you all you need to know about the quality of their leadership.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (mdjgu)

Obama and Clinton do have fans. Which is not the same thing, I know.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 02:53 PM (V6f9+)

175 Is the conservative movement bigger than Trump or is it just going to be a cult of personality?
Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM

From the commenter who is almost always focused like a laser beam on... wait for it... Trump's personality.

Posted by: Hands at July 19, 2021 02:53 PM (786Ro)

176 It reminds me of high I felt after 2008. I really wanted to see Sarah Palin run as President and win, almost solely because of how much they hated her. But in retrospect, Palin was a trashy train wreck.

I don't like letting my enemies pick who I support.

Yes, Trump winning would (again) emotionally break them. Someone like DeSantis winning would also break them. And we'd have someone that wasn't completely running things by the seat of his pants.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:53 PM (PwNLq)

177 I would happily vote for Trump or DeSantis. At the
moment, I can't think of anyone else who has proven themselves to not be
back-stabbers.

Posted by: Emmie -- we need more Trump, not less at July 19, 2021 02:48 PM (Hrwnm)

Rand Paul. But he doesn't offer people enough to get elected.

Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 02:53 PM (F2/Ok)

178 Cult of Personality?

I'm out.
Posted by: Jeb Bush at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (VmZxp)

LOL

Please clap

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 02:53 PM (V6f9+)

179 Hard Pass. He had his chance and tweeted while his base got the shit beat out of them, our history and heritage uprooted and torn down, and allowed the Uniparty to openly rig our elections and grifted 250 million while doing nothing.

Anybody CPAC or TPUSA has to with, I'll work against. Fuck their Big Tent that excludes Whites and Christians for Trannies, 3rd Worlders, Homos, and PornStars to groom kids.

Fuck all these grifters, coomers, and groomers. If they want to say they would rather have The Big Tent to groom kids and replace Whites and Christians like what happened this weekend, that somehow White Nationalists and Christians are worse than TPUSA inviting and giving VIP access to one of the most degenerate Porn Stars ever to groom 15-26 year old, then they are all dead to me. Conflating that action with at least she isn't a Holocaust Denier is an insane level of Cope and so disgusting in its dishostesty.

Keep digging that hole Big Tenters. Keep adopting extreme positions of the Bolsheviks just 5-10 years ago as your own. Keep chasing after their base at the expense of 60 to 70% of the country. We will work against you and sabotage the fuck out of you. Keep it up.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 19, 2021 02:53 PM (Wn6Xw)

180 2024?

Americans will be rafting to Cuba to live in a less restrictive environment.

Posted by: LMAO at July 19, 2021 02:54 PM (lwbYl)

181 Fantasy pick - Trump pretends like he's going to run long enough to keep the spotlight on him and off DeathSantis until he can back out and endorse DeathSantis, making the media beclown themselves more than normal as they try to flood the zone with negative coverage on the FL guv.

I just don't know enough about DeathSantis yet to know if he's a good guy or if he'll be another milquetoast GOPe guy on the national stage.

Posted by: McLurkerson at July 19, 2021 02:55 PM (wNDOJ)

182 DeSantis is far better than Trump. He tried to push Trump to nominate Barbara Lagoa instead of chirpy Catholic Barbie to SCOTUS. He actually succeeded in draining the swamp in the Broward County election office, and he figured out much earlier how to manage Covid intelligently. Those are just 3 obvious examples off the top of my head.

Posted by: WhyBanned at July 19, 2021 02:55 PM (YkawN)

183 If it's Trump/DeSantis or DeSantis/Trump there will be a suspension of in person election. It will all be mail in or maybe online voting, for our safety. Either Covid 2 or massive "terrorist" attacks coordinated by the Dims, something will happen to now allow in person voting. Or they might just, say, throw away all repub ballots. " It's amazing! Not a single citizen voted for a republican candidate."

Posted by: megthered at July 19, 2021 02:55 PM (YLNRu)

184 Followers need leaders. Trump is the first leader that we've seen since Reagan.

That said, do you know anybody that identifies themselves as an Obama Democrat? A Clinton Democrat? Tells you all you need to know about the quality of their leadership.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (mdjgu)

Trump seems to understand that MAGA isn't simply a slogan but an identity. That's what scared the left and right so much: he figured out how to play the left's game against them. Guerrilla-style pranks such as putting up "Trump" signs, boat parades, etc. are all about having fun and being part of something bigger. It's the opposite side of the coin from the angry Antifa-led riots. The GOPe hated it because they're a bunch of middle-managers who like to fancy themselves as distinguished statesmen.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 02:56 PM (jOcSX)

185 I saw Dinner Pals open for Frankie Goes To Hollywood at the Triple C Chuckwagon Dinner Ranch in Tucson in '86

Posted by: Hands at July 19, 2021 02:56 PM (786Ro)

186 At this point in our country's history, we need a dictator to take over and get us back on our feet.
I'd like to see Trump in that role, not De Saintis.

Posted by: Ziba at July 19, 2021 02:56 PM (S1hrL)

187 Though Tester won't be bought off by the wrong sort of people, like myself, I should add. He's a cheap whore but one Schumer has completely in his back pocket.

Posted by: Blor Utar, From Zimtok-5 at July 19, 2021 02:57 PM (xxG/v)

188 What I see Trump doing is only really jumping in if its an easy layup. Like it's 1976 and it's just whoever the GOP decides to run will be President.

If it looks more like 2012, he won't run.

I'm in the camp that 2020 was winnable and Trump blew it. If you think it was 100% rigged, why would you care that Trump got to run again?

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:57 PM (PwNLq)

189 I don't want our domestic enemies defeated.
I want them annihilated, to the extent that they are not a threat within my (as yet unborn) children's lives.

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2021 02:57 PM (kOpft)

190 Dinner Pals > Beach Friends

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 02:57 PM (V6f9+)

191 188

I meant to say 1980

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:57 PM (PwNLq)

192 155 What will happen when it is conclusively shown that Biden is utterly illegitimate, and only achieved office through fraud?
Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (cjlB3)

Nothing that is true is ever allowed to be "conclusively shown" anymore. That's the world he now live in.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2021 02:57 PM (H8QX8)

193 What will happen when it is conclusively shown that Biden is utterly illegitimate, and only achieved office through fraud?

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I vote gibbets and nooses. We're going to need a shitload of rope!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 19, 2021 02:57 PM (d9FiS)

194 I believe that whatever afflicts Roberts and made him toe the line (with Obama it was probably some sort of scandal) has also been applied to Kavanaugh and Barrett.

It's not misjudgement that's made the SCOTUS a dishrag but some sort of outside influence that is very compelling.

And that scares me more than Biden and his crew does. Of course that outside influence helped put him in there.

Saw a video where a guy was saying it's all about the Freemasons. And how everyone you see on TV is some part of it by the signs they display. It was interesting but no real evidence. Of course if there was a world org like that, that's exactly what you'd see.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 02:58 PM (wb4G5)

195 >>>Followers need leaders. Trump is the first leader that we've seen since Reagan.

That said, do you know anybody that identifies themselves as an Obama Democrat? A Clinton Democrat? Tells you all you need to know about the quality of their leadership.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 19, 2021 02:52 PM (mdjgu)
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That's too much thinking.
Can't have that.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 19, 2021 02:58 PM (qleR6)

196 >>Though Tester won't be bought off by the wrong sort of people, like myself, I should add. He's a cheap whore but one Schumer has completely in his back pocket.

Went in a broke shit kicker and is now sitting his fat ass on tens of millions.

I would love to watch that fat fuck drown in the Yellowstone.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2021 02:58 PM (VmZxp)

197 I'll gladly vote for Trump. Does he have flaws? Absolutely. But when he focuses, he gets things done.

DeSantis needs to stay in FL for now. We need him as governor to be an example for other governors.

Trump was a good President. I'm not giving up on him because he's not perfect.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 19, 2021 02:58 PM (Fs5vw)

198 Not sure what else DeSantis has to do to satisfy the purists. He has not shown anything other than being staunchly conservative. Look at his response to COVID, his taking on big tech and big education. Heck, read the article that JJ posted this morning with the quotes from Scott Atlas. He is term limited as governor, and will only have two years remaining in 2024.

Posted by: Tofer732 at July 19, 2021 02:58 PM (kUGet)

199 Well, Lindsey Graham wants him to be the Republican nominee for 2024. He said this on Maria's show this weekend, but he's been saying this for awhile. He also went golfing with him over the weekend.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 19, 2021 02:58 PM (NpAcC)

200
Dinner Pals > Beach Friends
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 02:57 PM (V6f9+)

Bleach Friends > Dinner Pals

Posted by: Jussie Smollett at July 19, 2021 02:58 PM (JN3xP)

201 >>That guitar riff knock your wig hat off.

Seriously. Has there been a better Riff, since?

Because that one is Iommi worthy.

Posted by: garrett at July 19, 2021 02:59 PM (VmZxp)

202 I want him to run because we know how he will perform, and I think another Trump term would be four years of fighting that's necessary to set the stage for a successful DeSantis admin. Running DeSantis in '24, even if he wins, would give new life to the NeverTrump wing of the GOP, who would see it as vindication.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 02:27 PM (jOcSX)

Exactly the opposite. The NT pulse would be neutered by a DeSantis run. They have no reason for getting interviews or donations if Trump stays retired.

Posted by: WhyBanned at July 19, 2021 02:59 PM (YkawN)

203 Dinner Pals > Beach Friends
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 02:57 PM (V6f9+)

Bleach Friends > Dinner Pals
Posted by: Jussie Smollett at July 19, 2021 02:58 PM (JN3xP)

I'm not your pal, buddy.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)

204 "DeSantis will be just as stymied as Trump was."

even if true, "stymied Trump/DeSantis" is much better than Tyrant Biden/HeelUp Harris.

But Trump made headway ... just not what we wanted on some fronts. I would maybe prefer DeSantis, but Trump had made the inroads via lowest unemployment for black/Hispanic ... and in at least moving toward better supply chains and The Quad ... against China. Certainly some moves on closing borders ...

I like Trump for the Bravado and popular rallies and mean tweets, maybe DeSantis VP to dig into the nitty gritty necessary changes inside ... then 8 more years fighting the DeepState.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 19, 2021 02:59 PM (Cus5s)

205 189: I'm with you because of my teen age child who has a bleak future ahead of him if this continues.

Posted by: Ziba at July 19, 2021 02:59 PM (S1hrL)

206
I just don't know enough about DeathSantis yet to know if he's a
good guy or if he'll be another milquetoast GOPe guy on the national
stage.

Posted by: McLurkerson at July 19, 2021 02:55 PM (wNDOJ)
Here's what I like about DeSantis *pauses to slap BC for his good governor having* - nearly all that stuff that DeSantis is doing? Yeah, that's pushing the FL legislature to pass things that he goes out and drums up the support to get passed.He's not ruling by executive order. He's cat herding to make the legislature take actual positions on matters of actual import. Assuming, which we really shouldn't, that the GOP takes over the House and maybe the Senate in 2022, then we need someone who can make the legislature legislate. II'm trying to think of who the strong man could be in American politics and, seriously, no one comes to mind. There's just not a Pinochet type out there.

Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 02:59 PM (mf5HN)

207 >> Dinner Pals > Beach Friends

Codpiece > One Piece

Posted by: Brett Kavanaugh at July 19, 2021 03:00 PM (VmZxp)

208 Give us the house and we'll repeal Obamacare. Ok, here ya go.
We can't do anything with 1/2 of 1/3 of government. We need the senate. Ok, here ya go.
Obama will just veto anything we do. We need the White House too. Ok, here ya go.
Well, not with that guy!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 19, 2021 03:00 PM (kTF2Z)

209 I believe that whatever afflicts Roberts and made him toe the line (with
Obama it was probably some sort of scandal) has also been applied to
Kavanaugh and Barrett. -------------------------- I certainly can't say you are wrong, but this is not something I believe. I just believe they are "weak" jurists who aren't going to go out on a limb on their own. They will on some issues, but less so on others. They are the weather vains, and will not go against the prevailing winds. Most people are like that. But if the winds line up and that gale comes, I think they will go with it. Maybe little comfort, but that is who they are.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 19, 2021 03:00 PM (sX1BW)

210 Special election in 2022. That's what they states do when this sort of stuff happens.

Can't kick him out. Have to maintain the peaceable transfer of power.

He can be forced to run again. But we'll probably have to wait till 2024. And we need to get all the ducks lined up and the machines turned off and good ol paper ballots make a come back with a cc to your self so you have proof and a means of traceability.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 03:01 PM (wb4G5)

211 Dinner Pals > Beach Friends

Codpiece > One Piece
Posted by: Brett Kavanaugh at July 19, 2021 03:00 PM (VmZxp)

I dig it. Fucking Straw Hat pirates, my ass...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 03:01 PM (V6f9+)

212 Is the conservative movement bigger than Trump or is it just going to be a cult of personality?
Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 02:45 PM (PwNLq)

If you want it to be bigger than Trump then you need to find more candidates who can mimic his style.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 19, 2021 03:02 PM (jOcSX)

213 Not sure what else DeSantis has to do to satisfy the purists.

Posted by: Tofer732 at July 19, 2021 02:58 PM (kUGet)

______________

Point out the purists. Take your time.

Posted by: McLurkerson at July 19, 2021 03:02 PM (wNDOJ)

214
Codpiece > One Piece
Posted by: Brett Kavanaugh at July 19, 2021 03:00 PM (VmZxp)

I dig it. Fucking Straw Hat pirates, my ass...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 03:01 PM (V6f9+)

BOOF!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 03:02 PM (Zz0t1)

215 199 Well, Lindsey Graham wants him to be the Republican nominee for 2024. He said this on Maria's show this weekend, but he's been saying this for awhile. He also went golfing with him over the weekend.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 19, 2021 02:58 PM (NpAcC)
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Did Trump get that *special* caddie for him?

Posted by: Braenyard at July 19, 2021 03:02 PM (qleR6)

216 https://tinyurl.com/ye87yh3r

Because boobs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:02 PM (LvTSG)

217 I'm a rebel

I mean I'm a Monday beer drinker, not a weekend beer drinker.
The hell with expectations.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (c8R0G)

218 There's just not a Pinochet type out there.
Depends on whether you think a Pinochet s born to the role or formed by circumstances. It's arguable whether a Pinochet electorate is there yet.

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (kOpft)

219 The GOP will not allow DJT to get the party's presidential nomination ever again. Whatever it takes, even if it atomizes the party into a thousand pieces

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It's like Boy George says, "Kama kama kama kama kama kamikaze!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (d9FiS)

220 PDT and Gov Ron are pictured side-by-side on the DeSantis fundraiser letters. Gov Ron was Congressman Ron, so he understands the rot in DC. This might be a defensive move to keep DeSantis from being the main focus of DOJ, bc I'm sure they are searching for something.

Posted by: EveR at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (MUpk6)

221 I don't think he'll run. He's too smart and self-aware not to see that we're no longer living in the same world as when he first ran, and too patriotic not to recognize that it is time for a DeSantis. If there were no DeSantis, it would be different. I think he'll endorse DeSantis and go to the mat for him.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (H8QX8)

222
It's in Trump's interest to sound like he might run, whether he has any actual intention of running or not.

For this reason, his intentions are unknowable.

In an earlier time, when DC was not so degraded, his expectations of the federal government would have been reasonable, and he would have been the man for the job. Now that we have an idea of the magnitude of the corruption, I don't think he's necessarily hp to it. He is not going to be in a position to bring an army of replacements and allies with him in 2024, any more than he was in 2016.

Perhaps the candidate with suitable combination of attributes has not yet been identified, and perhaps won't be. Remember, Trump won in 2020 and it didn't matter. And the bastards are prepared to go much further than that.

Posted by: Semi- Literate Thug at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (2mlpS)

223 Well, Lindsey Graham wants him to be the Republican nominee for 2024. He said this on Maria's show this weekend, but he's been saying this for awhile. He also went golfing with him over the weekend.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 19, 2021 02:58 PM (NpAcC)

I don't give a flying fuck what king squish wants. He's proven himself a worthless fag over and over and over.

I'm done with that asshat.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (Zz0t1)

224 For what it's worth ( nothing) I definitely don't identify as a Trump Republican or a Reagan Republican or any other Insert Name Here Republican. I'm your typical independent to a fault conservative.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (2DOZq)

225 Even Ashton Kutcher is starting to see the problem of censorship and media manipulation of information

https://tinyurl.com/nekdcxuv

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (p1I/V)

226 >>Then he pusses out and pretends he doesn't want to see Commies thrown out of Helicopters...

Yeah, that's like pretending you don't want that second scoop of chocolate chocolate ice cream, or you hate a juicy medium rare steak right off the grill, or that somehow sleeping with Rachel Welch was just horrible, no shit.

Posted by: Boswell at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (5iUNf)

227 Dinner Pals > Butt Buddies > Beach Friends

Posted by: wth at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (v0R5T)

228 I agree that the Presidency is a false prize. DC is a giant grift machine. There aren't enough qualified people of merit willing to sacrifice everything they have to swim against the current there for four years.

I don't see things getting better unless the conservative states ban together and start talking about an alternative to DC.

Posted by: pawn at July 19, 2021 03:04 PM (OTgeX)

229
You want General Washington
You will settle for General Pinochet
You will get Chairman Mao

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 19, 2021 03:04 PM (yQpMk)

230 https://tinyurl.com/ye87yh3r

Because boobs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:02 PM (LvTSG)

Huh....static background with the words "nothing here."

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

231 There are people that think the only person that can possibly be "real conservative" needs the last name Trump.

Trump had very few conservative victories, basically SC appointments and a tax cut. Just like Bush.

And Trump is no champion of small government, he was out there OUTBIDDING Democrats on another round of checks after he already lost the election.

He doesn't give one shit about shrinking government or inflation, the deficit. He wants to buy votes just like Democrats do.

We had a whole Tea Party over TARP or cash for clunkers, the corporate bailouts Trump signed are WAY worse than anything Obama ever did.

Trump was good on immigration and trade, and it was mostly bluster. That's about it.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:04 PM (PwNLq)

232 218 There's just not a Pinochet type out there.
Depends on whether you think a Pinochet s born to the role or formed by circumstances. It's arguable whether a Pinochet electorate is there yet.
Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2021 03:03 PM (kOpft)

Pinochet didn't come to power by being elected.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 19, 2021 03:05 PM (z5Vrg)

233 You want General Washington

You will settle for General Pinochet

You will get Chairman Mao ------------------------ Well that is depressing.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 19, 2021 03:05 PM (sX1BW)

234 What MP4 said at #128.

Posted by: ShainS at July 19, 2021 03:05 PM (iBMrD)

235 I want Trump to run again with Desantis on the ticket. The support would be overwhelming, the rallies would dwarf the previous ones. People need to SEE this again, that way when the left steals the election again in 2024 we can finally disavow ourselves of the quaint notion of "voting our way out of this" some still harbor.

If Trump runs again it'll be a miracle he is not arrested or assassinated before Election Day.

Posted by: JROD at July 19, 2021 03:05 PM (0jZnq)

236 Trump, a bull in a China shop, a great example (for DeSantis?) on how to shake things up.

But, Management skills are so lacking. Firing people via Tweet? Slamming your "allies" (?) in politics in public? Punching so far down against LeBron James?

These are not mean tweets; these are shoot-yourself-in-the foot tweets.

Posted by: JM in Florida at July 19, 2021 03:05 PM (HCeRP)

237 Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 02:59 PM (mf5HN)

That point is more solid than a stripper's bad boob job. You know, the kind when they motorboat you and you feel like you got mauled by a couple of medicine balls?

Not that I'd know anything about that...

Posted by: McLurkerson at July 19, 2021 03:05 PM (wNDOJ)

238 I want Trump run for some weakly held D district and raise hell in the House for two years and then run for his third term.

Posted by: free tibet at July 19, 2021 03:05 PM (gfP64)

239 Despite some major mistakes I think Trump made, I still think he was the best prez in my lifetime. I am not a purist, all candidates are human, but yeah I have been fooled way way too many times. One decision by DeSantis paying fealty to the left and I am out. Trumps bad decisions were just bad decisions, he wasn't making those to appease the leftists.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (r+sAi)

240 230 https://tinyurl.com/ye87yh3r

Because boobs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:02 PM (LvTSG)

Huh....static background with the words "nothing here."
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

=======

Weird. Oh well. The universe doesn't want you to see boobs, I guess.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (LvTSG)

241 I vote gibbets and nooses. We're going to need a shitload of rope!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston

Naah. You can re-use rope. Of course, some of the fatter traitors might snap the rope...

My question of "What will happen..." was sort of directed at "What will the worthless GOP do?" We the People are somewhat hamstrung by our representation and their absolute gutlessness and their propensity to cut a bad deal when they hold all the aces. Will anyone have the guts to do some thing, or will they get away with it yet again?

Posted by: Brewingfrog at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (cjlB3)

242 Huh....static background with the words "nothing here."
A metaphor for life today, perhaps.

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (kOpft)

243
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Weird. Oh well. The universe doesn't want you to see boobs, I guess.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (LvTSG)

This would not be surprising to me.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (Zz0t1)

244 You know, the kind when they motorboat you and you feel like you got mauled by a couple of medicine balls?

Not that I'd know anything about that...

Posted by: McLurkerson at July 19, 2021 03:05 PM (wNDOJ)

I'm a good girl, I am.

Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (mf5HN)

245 Desantis is doing most everything trump has tried to do on the local level, they have raised up a capitol gendarmerie for florida, they have taken over the army the air force the navy the coast guard, the space force, capisce, it's not a question, of what will burn, but how many they take of ours,

yes the bullcarp aimed at trump from day one, even before innaugural because that (redacted) russian garbage, which stevie wonder could realize was fake,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (hMlTh)

246 If you want it to be bigger than Trump then you need to find more candidates who can mimic his style.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

Everyone I know voted for Trump in spite of his "style", not because of it.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:07 PM (PwNLq)

247 159 I don't want Trump to run in 2024 because he will be 78 and I am tired of being ruled by nigh and actual octogenarians. ------------------------------- I do have my doubts that a Boomer will end up leading the change that we need. He may get it started, but I don't think he will get it done. Frankly, the changes that need to be made may have to be made after the Boomers have lost much of their political capital. We still have a few terms to go.
Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (sX1BW)

Slow down, little boy. You ain't gonna do shit right now without the boomers. Wishing us gone smacks of left-thought.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 19, 2021 03:07 PM (Fs5vw)

248 We had a whole Tea Party over TARP or cash for clunkers, the corporate bailouts Trump signed are WAY worse than anything Obama ever did.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:04 PM (PwNLq)

So you're of the position that the smart thing to do when state governments shut down the economy is let everyone go bankrupt?

Speaking of which, high gas prices today has a little something to do with deciding to bankrupt many of the shale producers last year. OPEC's back in the saddle.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 19, 2021 03:07 PM (z5Vrg)

249 Saw a video where a guy was saying it's all about the Freemasons. And how everyone you see on TV is some part of it by the signs they display. It was interesting but no real evidence. Of course if there was a world org like that, that's exactly what you'd see.
Posted by: jakee308

**

I used to not believe in that kind of thing until they pulled off the COVID silliness to get rid of Trump after he was accidentally allowed to become president.

I don't know if it's "the freemasons" or whatever, but there's definitely a worldwide cabal running things, and they absolutely pulled off the COVID scam.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - they've got a brand new pair of rollerskates, you take this brand new key [ at July 19, 2021 03:07 PM (9aYjv)

250 Will anyone have the guts to do some thing, or will they get away with it yet again? --------------------------- What will be the effect on the Boomer's wealth and way of life? So long at that is at stake, I don't expect any big changes.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 19, 2021 03:07 PM (sX1BW)

251 I would go with Trump / DeSantis 2024

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2021 03:07 PM (Cxk7w)

252 Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:04 PM (PwNLq)

That's funny, because you just described the GOPe for the last 20 fucking years, except for the immigration and trade part.

But do go on about that stable of rock ribbed conserva-hulks that are chomping at the bid to run for president. I can't wait for your next hit take.

Posted by: McLurkerson at July 19, 2021 03:08 PM (wNDOJ)

253
Went in a broke shit kicker and is now sitting his fat ass on tens of millions.

I would love to watch that fat fuck drown in the Yellowstone.

+1

Posted by: free tibet at July 19, 2021 03:09 PM (gfP64)

254 Grenell tweeted this the other day...

@RichardGrenell Jul 16

I spoke to President Trump today and I'd say he's running.

Posted by: Tami at July 19, 2021 03:10 PM (cF8AT)

255 Pinochet didn't come to power by being elected.
Fair enough. I mean it's arguable that the necessary support structure to get the anti-DC strong man in place does or doesn't exist, whatever the mechanism.

Posted by: Methos at July 19, 2021 03:10 PM (kOpft)

256 Slow down, little boy. You ain't gonna do shit right now without the boomers. Wishing us gone smacks of left-thought. ------------------ That's my point. You aren't going to do anything without the Boomers. They still drive the voting ship in this country and will for another couple terms. Are they going to risk their wealth and security? I have my doubts. The old rarely lead a revolution. Will they right the ship? I have my doubts there too. Because they are so powerful politically, I don't think there will be an real change until their influence is gone.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 19, 2021 03:10 PM (sX1BW)

257 The primary reason I don't want Trump to run is that he's only got 4 years left.

Posted by: McLurkerson at July 19, 2021 03:10 PM (wNDOJ)

258 why do you think there is not going to be another viable candidate this election? Just because we don't know who it is yet?

Posted by: Mo Cheesecake at July 19, 2021 03:10 PM (LJaEn)

259 I'm a good girl, I am.
Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (mf5HN)

Washed your face and hands? Came in a taxi?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (V6f9+)

260 I'm a good girl, I am.
Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (mf5HN)

We want none of your slum prudery here!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (2JVJo)

261 Huh....static background with the words "nothing here."
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 19, 2021 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)
-----------------------

I got rain drops

Posted by: Braenyard at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (qleR6)

262 There's just not a Pinochet type out there.
Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 02:59 PM (mf5HN)

Sometimes, someone in the conservative movement has to be good at politics. And DeSantis is good at it. Trump was a good campaigner, he sucked at politics. I get it, that's a charm - and he has charm. I just want someone with Trump's pro-American convictions that can also constantly out maneuver the Dems and the press. And DeSantis just seems able to do this all the time.

Posted by: Boswell at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (5iUNf)

263 I could go with Trump or DeSantis. Trump did piss off a lot of people which was sometimes a good thing and sometimes it wasn't. There were people in power and influencers that he pissed off so much that they became spiteful. Trump hate is very real. I just hope he learned a lot of things in office and becomes smarter and more savvy the next time around.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (NpAcC)

264 the scenario was the wef wargame with cdc who john hopkins rockefeller foundation,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (hMlTh)

265 Were tits of defeat ever on the table?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (LvTSG)

266 yes the bullcarp aimed at trump from day one, even before innaugural because that (redacted) russian garbage, which stevie wonder could realize was fake,
Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (hMlTh)

It started before Trump declared he was running for President. Trump's pursuit of Obama's birth certificate and his dumping on Hillary had them planning Trump's demise immediately.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (2DOZq)

267

Gibbets. And gravy...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 19, 2021 03:12 PM (s2VJv)

268 Barney and Friends > OK, I guess nothing

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 19, 2021 03:12 PM (d9FiS)

269 I'm a good girl, I am.
Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (mf5HN)

I have some candy in my windowless van.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 19, 2021 03:13 PM (yQpMk)

270 >>>I spoke to President Trump today and I'd say he's running.
Posted by: Tami at July 19, 2021 03:10 PM (cF8AT)
---------------

They can't rig elections next time.

Trump Wins.

Posted by: Braenyard, Trump/DeSantis 2024 at July 19, 2021 03:13 PM (qleR6)

271 Came in a taxi?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (V6f9+)

Let's not get too personal.

Posted by: LMAO at July 19, 2021 03:13 PM (28b0e)

272 Everyone I know voted for Trump in spite of his "style", not because of it.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:07 PM (PwNLq)

to be honest, I don't know what that means. I think ACE and I have followed a very similar path. WE are old school conservatives, conservative long before Trump. I was for Rand Paul, then Ted Cruz. I joined the Trump train when it was the only train left.

But no way would I deny Trump inspired millions who were not even political before him. To say people voted for Trump despite his style is historically inaccurate. If fact, he moved the entire party on many issues. We used to never care about tariffs and being anti war. Trump did that, those are just two examples where his personality moved people in his direction.

Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 03:13 PM (F2/Ok)

273 Washed your face and hands? Came in a taxi?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (V6f9+)

Oow - ain't we proud.

Posted by: Boswell at July 19, 2021 03:13 PM (5iUNf)

274 of course I am anti war, you guys know what I mean. The party has changed a lot and Trump was the main reason.

Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 03:14 PM (F2/Ok)

275 It might be easier to win without Trump being the candidate in 2024, but I suppose it would mean more culturally if he actually managed to win again. A Trump win would be quite the repudiation of the elite consensus. In fact so unmistakable of a repudiation that there would be a real chance of a pre-emptive literal coup given that Trump's mandate would basically be to end the careers of the top five or ten layers of government employees (military inclusive), bust the Big Tech Monops, and breakup the cozy US elite relationship with the CCP.

Posted by: Match Checksout at July 19, 2021 03:14 PM (dYe5S)

276 262 There's just not a Pinochet type out there.
Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 02:59 PM (mf5HN)

Sometimes, someone in the conservative movement has to be good at politics. And DeSantis is good at it. Trump was a good campaigner, he sucked at politics. I get it, that's a charm - and he has charm. I just want someone with Trump's pro-American convictions that can also constantly out maneuver the Dems and the press. And DeSantis just seems able to do this all the time.
Posted by: Boswell at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (5iUNf)

He certainly can. It helps that he has a legislature that has his back. I've seen no evidence that this GOP has learned anything from the last six months of Bai Den. Without them, this thing is not going very far.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 19, 2021 03:14 PM (mdjgu)

277 back in october 2019,

Pinochet replaced general prats and schneider, they were both killed off, that's how pinochet was in position, there's a staff officer, anywhere near the top of the command structure, that psycho mau mau makes sure they don't get there,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 19, 2021 03:14 PM (hMlTh)

278 Last week The Tulsa Police Department used Facebook to ask the public Wednesday for help tracking down a woman named Lorraine Graves, who they suspected as an accessory in the March slaying of Eric Graves. When she responded to the Facebook post to ask about a reward, she was arrested.

https://lidblog.com/lorraine-graves/

Her hair is a crime.

Posted by: SMH at July 19, 2021 03:15 PM (XrnX7)

279 Considering a dried up dog turd and a used wad of gum could probably win in 2024 against what the Dems have now I don't think the GOP is going to be trying too hard to find someone who is going to be a quality candidate.

Posted by: pawn at July 19, 2021 03:15 PM (OTgeX)

280 I'm a good girl, I am.
Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (mf5HN)

We'll have none of your slum prudery here....

Posted by: Boswell at July 19, 2021 03:15 PM (5iUNf)

281 Trumps bad decisions were just bad decisions, he wasn't making those to appease the leftists.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

I disagree, I think Trump went along with a lot of liberal policies like bailouts, stimulus, criminal justice reform, healthcare, etc.

Right when he rolled in, he promised not to do a clean repeal of ObamaCare.

For the record, I'm glad we had Trump, he unmasked everyone in DC. I guess I just had higher hopes that he wasn't some flighty celebrity and really was a savvy businessman that was going to surround himself with the "best".

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:15 PM (PwNLq)

282
> Degenerate active working Pornstar and Literal Prostitute gets invited and a a VIP pass to a Christian Youth thing for 15-26 year olds, takes pictures with kids, people rightfully outraged, she gets kicked out, Coomers, Lolbers, and Groomers cry and scream.
Today: Why do you deny the Holocaust? Are you advocating for a Theocracy... At she is not a White Identitarian! What do you hate the Jews or Something?

I'm done. Conservatism in its current form needs to die and the people running the show need to be replaced. Every single young person has told their parents, you think their parents outside of BoomerCommers want anything to do with this Satanic Shit Show any longer? If Conservatism can't even keep their minds and hands off of grooming kids, what use is it at this point?

Burn. Scatter. Salt.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at July 19, 2021 03:15 PM (YLN09)

283 Well, at least DJT took out some of the garbage even if it was by accident. But until he figures out how much garbage he should've taken out but didn't, I'd say we need a wild eyed chainsaw throwing maniac in 2024 way more than we need four more years of guy comfortably walking around wearing a kick me t-shirt trying to get along with the knuckle-dragging conservagrifters.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at July 19, 2021 03:16 PM (MkuC5)

284
I voted against Hillary in '16.
I would have crawled naked over hot coals to vote for Trump in '20.

Same deal in '24. Assuming Dao-Min Yen is not a factor and that would be a foolish assumption.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 19, 2021 03:16 PM (s2VJv)

285
or you hate a juicy ~~medium~~ rare steak right off the grill,

_________

There. Better.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 19, 2021 03:17 PM (mht8P)

286 Well, that's fun. I've heard of comments being rejected as spam but hadn't experienced it. Maybe it was too long. Maybe cri de couer (don't know the plural) are automatically spam. Maybe I just don't know the rules.

Posted by: Plum Duff at July 19, 2021 03:17 PM (n7Mxp)

287 Let's let Trump see if he learned anything and got
some staff and some plans. Let DeSantis keep Fla. Red for the next 8
years and maybe then he'll be able to fit right in as some of these
loser fake GOP will be gone.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 02:33 PM

Florida is staying red for the foreseeable future. republican registrations vastly outnumber democrats registrations for people moving into the State. I suspect Florida is not going to be considered a swing state for long.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 19, 2021 03:18 PM (JUOKG)

288
I could go with Trump or DeSantis. Trump did piss off a lot of people
which was sometimes a good thing and sometimes it wasn't. There were
people in power and influencers that he pissed off so much that they
became spiteful. Trump hate is very real. I just hope he learned a lot
of things in office and becomes smarter and more savvy the next time
around.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 19, 2021 03:11 PM (NpAcC)

there were some times when he should have held fast. I recall a state of the union in which he killed, even the libs admitted it. A day or so later he said something to set them off. Either way the Left will never respect or accept a Republican. But sure there were times i think we all just thought, just don't mess with this right now.

Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 03:18 PM (F2/Ok)

289 Can't see any basis for preferring Heavy D. He's the only actual visible decent alternative - which in itself is a grim reality. But lots of breezy assumptions flying here that have no apparent basis - or no way of being checked, as we'll just have to see.

Either guy would be in essentially the same position - that of an occupying foreign enemy in the capital. Subject to the same insubordination, criminal harassment, and political isolation. Don't see the basis for thinking Heavy D would be any better at dealing with it.

Unless the GOP is almost completely transformed. But then either might have a chance of more positive impact.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 19, 2021 03:18 PM (OTzUX)

290 I want DeSantis, but don't think he has even seen a scintilla of the shit that is coming his way if he is the nominee. I hope he can stand up to it, but in my lifetime the only one who has ever done so is Trump. This is going to be a war.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 19, 2021 03:18 PM (oWBc3)

291 275 It might be easier to win without Trump being the candidate in 2024, but
I suppose it would mean more culturally if he actually managed to win
again. A Trump win would be quite the repudiation of the elite
consensus. In fact so unmistakable of a repudiation that there would be
a real chance of a pre-emptive literal coup given that Trump's mandate
would basically be to end the careers of the top five or ten layers of
government employees (military inclusive), bust the Big Tech Monops, and
breakup the cozy US elite relationship with the CCP.

Posted by: Match Checksout at July 19, 2021 03:14 PM (dYe5S)

That is so hot.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 19, 2021 03:18 PM (ufFY8)

292 He certainly can. It helps that he has a legislature that has his back. I've seen no evidence that this GOP has learned anything from the last six months of Bai Den. Without them, this thing is not going very far.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 19, 2021 03:14 PM (mdjgu)

Welp. That is a problem. I think the national GOP issues have to be solved before any conservative president can be successful. Trump couldn't solve it, DeSantis may not either. But I think he knows more about what pulls their strings than Trump. I got the feeling that Trump tried to get along but hated them...DeSantis will try and USE them - its different. But still, they are the main problem regardless.

Posted by: Boswell at July 19, 2021 03:19 PM (5iUNf)

293 Well, that's fun. I've heard of comments being rejected as spam but hadn't experienced it.

Run your comment through https://bit.ly/2UvqJL3 and see if you have any forbidden codesets in it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 19, 2021 03:19 PM (yQpMk)

294 Posted by: SMH at July 19, 2021 03:15 PM (XrnX7)

The Tulsa PD homicide department is featured on the First 48. They seem to be a very competent and nice group of detectives.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 19, 2021 03:19 PM (2DOZq)

295 Well, that's fun. I've heard of comments being rejected as spam but hadn't experienced it. Maybe it was too long. Maybe cri de couer (don't know the plural) are automatically spam. Maybe I just don't know the rules.
Posted by: Plum Duff at July 19, 2021 03:17 PM (n7Mxp)

It's length. If you copy pasta someone and reply, you hit the character limit fairly quickly.

Posted by: alexthechick at July 19, 2021 03:19 PM (mf5HN)

296 Nothing wrong with Trump taking the hits at the national level while DeSantis leads the states to move a bit to the right.

Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 19, 2021 03:20 PM (sX1BW)

297 well you ignore the stupid people, which is most of the media,
but lets consider how the late grathwold got ayers to admit who he needed to liquidate, and scale up for 2020 from 1970,
you're not getting the full import of this,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 19, 2021 03:20 PM (hMlTh)

298 Posted by: Match Checksout at July 19, 2021 03:14 PM (dYe5S)

Whoa! It moved.

Posted by: Bosk at July 19, 2021 03:21 PM (K2+qy)

299 The Tulsa PD homicide department is featured on the First 48. They seem to be a very competent and nice group of detectives.
Posted by: Just a side note
___

If you say so.

I don't watch TV.

Posted by: SMH at July 19, 2021 03:21 PM (XrnX7)

300 Blago sounds like Blago.

Posted by: klaftern at July 19, 2021 03:21 PM (r4sI4)

301 I got the feeling that Trump tried to get along but hated them...
Posted by: Boswell at July 19, 2021 03:19 PM (5iUNf)

No, they hated him. Trump didn't have nearly enough capacity for hate. That was always the problem.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2021 03:21 PM (H8QX8)

302
Trump caused the progborg to accelerate their programming.

And the GOP was left standing there, helpless, like a bunch of Bushs and Bohners and Ryans when he left. They had no idea what to do, and no impetus to do anything about figuring it out.

Trump tried, he failed, no one will be able to repeat what he did, the deck is getting stacked more and more every day.

I'm thinking the destruction of the cities is to drive the idiot progs to the hinterlands and suburbs to poison them. It is something that makes sense.

I was doing research once and looking at a lot of demographic stats, and one repository had a big warning about not using the data contained within for evil.

Got the noggin joggin.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at July 19, 2021 03:21 PM (NuVOb)

303 295
It's length. If you copy pasta someone and reply, you hit the character limit fairly quickly.
Posted by: alexthechick at July 19, 2021 03:19 PM (mf5HN)

=========

That doesn't seem to be treated as spam. When I hit the limit, the box just stops accepting new characters.

It was either an errant special character like a long dash or too many line breaks or maybe some combination of characters that Pixy has programmed to reject. I've had to deal with that last one a couple of times, latest was a manually created Smilie that I copied as part of someone else's comment. So, it made no sense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:21 PM (LvTSG)

304 MSM - meltdown Big Tech - meltdown Fat Slugs Elite - meltdown. Meanwhile. the printing presses at the US Mint are printing reserve notes like crazy. The people who think they run sh*t have no idea how angry hoi polloi are at the degradation of our country's social structures.

Posted by: mrp at July 19, 2021 03:21 PM (Pqytn)

305 Watching "The President's Lady."

Andrew Jackson and Rose Jackson, and all the haters.

Posted by: rd at July 19, 2021 03:21 PM (Z32m1)

306 We need the commiegarchs to be more afraid of the populace (us) than of the populace's leader.
But they don't fear us - why should they?

Posted by: vmom restituere verum papam at July 19, 2021 03:22 PM (s99R7)

307 I always liked what Archie Bunker told Meathead.

Archie didn't like Carter and didn't like Ford so he wrote in Richard Nixon.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 19, 2021 03:22 PM (cljid)

308 The way the NeverTrumpers and the Ben Shapiros cling so much to DeSantis makes me weary about him being another Kavanaugh. I know what I'm getting with Trump, 70% of what I want with a big fuck you.

This times 1000. DeSantis is probably a great guy, but he comes from a modest enough background that he can be co-opted, bribed, blackmailed or browbeaten like Bush, Newt, Ryan or Roberts. Soros and the rest of the Deep State just have too much money and power for almost anyone to resist their bribes and threats. Trump is the only one who has proved to have the fame, fortune and cojones to resist the onslaught. People like Kavanaugh, Barrett, Walker, Haley, Christie and Noem inevitabibly fold like a cheap suit.

Posted by: cool breeze at July 19, 2021 03:22 PM (UGKMd)

309 Toyota won't be airing any Olympic-themed advertisements on Japanese television during the Tokyo Games despite being one of the IOC's top corporate sponsors.

The extraordinary decision by the country's top automaker underlines how polarizing the Games have become in Japan as COVID-19 infections rise ahead of Friday's opening ceremony.

-
Old and busted: 2021 Olympics

New and shiny: 2021 Clusterfuck

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 19, 2021 03:22 PM (d9FiS)

310 Its unfortunate, and maybe its the circles I run in, but I knew a lot of Republican defectors in 2020 and it was purely over Trump's personality. They liked the agenda, couldn't stand the drama.

Yes, I hate this mentality, but what do you do? Try it again?

Does anyone really see a viable path for Trump to be President in 2024? I don't. They'll simply swap Biden out if it gets to that point.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:22 PM (PwNLq)

311 Thanks AtC. It probably was length. It's hard to watch an elderly loved one get screwed by their church, for whom they are a major benefactor, and not go on and on (and on). No copy and paste, just me ranting about my poor MIL. Hard to watch them hurt. Thanks again.

Posted by: Plum Duff at July 19, 2021 03:23 PM (n7Mxp)

312 309 Old and busted: 2021 Olympics

New and shiny: 2021 Clusterfuck
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 19, 2021 03:22 PM (d9FiS)

=========

If the Olympics end up dying because of COVID, I'll consider the whole thing worth it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:23 PM (LvTSG)

313 Dinner pals > beach friends

I guess.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 19, 2021 03:23 PM (QU5/8)

314 If President Trump runs in 2024, he needs to run as the Trump character in that awesome Italian parade float.

Posted by: mrp at July 19, 2021 03:23 PM (Pqytn)

315 @231 Blago

Trump Tax Cut & SC. Good on immigration and trade.

Am I missing something? That's what conservatives really want.

Sure. Spending is an issue. But unless you got 60 in the Senate, it will was be a problem. One way. Or the other

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 19, 2021 03:24 PM (vJWAK)

316 310 Does anyone really see a viable path for Trump to be President in 2024? I don't. They'll simply swap Biden out if it gets to that point.
Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:22 PM (PwNLq)

==========

Well, he did win in 2020 which is why six states stopped counting in the middle of the night to just good ole fashion ballot box stuff.

I don't think his personality is nearly as big of an issue as gets made out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:24 PM (LvTSG)

317 Let's let Trump see if he learned anything and got
some staff and some plans. Let DeSantis keep Fla. Red for the next 8
years and maybe then he'll be able to fit right in as some of these
loser fake GOP will be gone.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 02:33 PM

Florida governor is term limited to two terms in a row and then have to sit out one before running again. Assuming that DeSantis wins again in 2022, he's out as governor in 2026 and can't run for governor again until 2030.

Posted by: alexthechick at July 19, 2021 03:24 PM (mf5HN)

318 Wonder what the over/under is on days of competition before the Olympics gets cancelled? They need a big "oh shit" moment to restore the panic porn.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 19, 2021 03:24 PM (oWBc3)

319 315 @231 Blago

Trump Tax Cut & SC. Good on immigration and trade.

Am I missing something? That's what conservatives really want.

Sure. Spending is an issue. But unless you got 60 in the Senate, it will was be a problem. One way. Or the other
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 19, 2021 03:24 PM (vJWAK)

He was also great on deregulation. Managed to chip away at the bureaucracy bit, and the EOs in the last year were setting up for open war on it, though no doubt the courts would block.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 19, 2021 03:25 PM (z5Vrg)

320 Its unfortunate, and maybe its the circles I run in, but I knew a lot of Republican defectors in 2020 and it was purely over Trump's personality. They liked the agenda, couldn't stand the drama.

I would so be rubbing current events in their faces that they would hate me with passion.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 19, 2021 03:25 PM (yQpMk)

321 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 19, 2021 03:22 PM (d9FiS)

That's why I predicted a Covid breakout would coincide with the Olympics. Most of the people in charge of tracking Covid were against holding the Olympics.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 19, 2021 03:25 PM (2DOZq)

322 Being anti war is like being anti Sun. It's a force of nature and there's usually some reason for it.

What you MEAN is that you are anti made up conflicts because some people want to flex their power and some of them are looking for a payday or their friends are. That's not war, that's business drenched in blood.

We will always have war because some son of bitch wants what someone else has or feels that G-d is on their side or to distract the common folk who were about to hang their ass.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 03:25 PM (wb4G5)

323 Posted by: SH (Non-Elite) at July 19, 2021 03:10 PM (sX1BW)

When you saw the Tea Party rallies, who were the majority?

Who were the majority of voters that gave us Trump? (Both elections)

You're desire to be rid of us really is leftist talking points.

Posted by: Justsayin' at July 19, 2021 03:25 PM (Fs5vw)

324 I'm certain that my Democrat senator, Fat John Tester, can be bought off for a couple of Free-All-You-Can-Eat tickets to Golden Corral.

Posted by: Blor Utar, From Zimtok-5 at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (xxG/v)

Heh...Mine is far more expensive. His price is a 14-year-old girl.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2021 03:26 PM (Q9lwr)

325 "I'm a good girl, I am.

Posted by: alexthechick - ageist ho at July 19, 2021 03:06 PM (mf5HN)
"

Lawyer: one who protects us against robbery by taking away the temptation.- H.L. Mencken

Posted by: Marcus T, Libertad at July 19, 2021 03:26 PM (VpIIl)

326 Here's a fun discussion:

Who is more corrupt? FIFA or the IOC?

Posted by: alexthechick at July 19, 2021 03:27 PM (mf5HN)

327 I doubt DeSantis would play well with independents and non-ideological Democrats. He's kinda uncool and the media and Dems could run the same playbook they used to tank Romney.

Posted by: Serious Cat at July 19, 2021 03:27 PM (700n7)

328 If the Olympics end up dying because of COVID, I'll consider the whole thing worth it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:23 PM (LvTSG)

I'm going to watch the NZ tranny crush the ladies and the Olympic records, and swimming.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 19, 2021 03:27 PM (yQpMk)

329 "I could go with Trump or DeSantis."\

Trump THEN DeSantis

Trump proved himself as POTUS, DeSantis has not. Trump is the first Republican President since Reagan who kept faith and didn't abandon us - I'm rewarding that with Loyalty.

I like DeSantis. But I also liked McCain, Romney, Christie and Walker. I'm not going to risk rolling the dice on DeSantis when a sure thing is running.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 19, 2021 03:27 PM (49Exr)

330 In the good ol' days, people voted based on the status of their financial well-being. What will the economy look like in 2024?

Posted by: mrp at July 19, 2021 03:28 PM (Pqytn)

331 quick nood

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:28 PM (LvTSG)

332 Biden isn't going to make it till 2024. Veep Throat is so disgusting that she will be thoroughly despised by everyone. The GOP could win with whoever they back and you know they are going to push for someone who might appeal to the Left. Someone like Romney without the baggage but whoever it is it will be a DC insider.

Posted by: pawn at July 19, 2021 03:28 PM (OTgeX)

333 Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 19, 2021 03:24 PM (vJWAK)

You think the Supreme Court picks were a positive point?

Posted by: Just a side note at July 19, 2021 03:28 PM (2DOZq)

334 I don't think his personality is nearly as big of an issue as gets made out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:24 PM (LvTSG)

___________

I'm not sure I can agree with this anymore. From nearly every pundit to almost everyone I know who didn't vote for Trump, none of it was on policy. *None*.

Like it or not, most voters seem to vote for pretty shallow reasons, and virtue signaling or personality traits seem to be what determines the fate of our former Republic.

Posted by: McLurkerson at July 19, 2021 03:29 PM (wNDOJ)

335 I had a couple of old work friends that I shunned/banned after they announced they voted for the vegetable because of Trump drama/mean tweets. My only regret is I can't spike the ball on them now. I suspect there will be far fewer of these so called conscientious objectors in 24 having seen the cost of their "convictions".

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 19, 2021 03:29 PM (oWBc3)

336 "Does anyone really see a viable path for Trump to be President in 2024? I don't."

Are you trying to say they will steal the election to stop Trump but not DeSantis?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 19, 2021 03:29 PM (49Exr)

337 Well, he did win in 2020 which is why six states stopped counting in the middle of the night to just good ole fashion ballot box stuff.

I don't think his personality is nearly as big of an issue as gets made out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish

I used to not think so, but I just ran across too many people that said they couldn't handle it and voted Biden or sat it out. It was always upper middle class, types that normally fill out a straight Republican ballot.

Again, I can rage about this, but it is what it is. Trump brought new people in but alienated a lot ones we needed. And most of the alienation was Trump's think skinned ego bullshit, not over policy.

I think 2020 was winnable, even with the fraud. Apparently Trump does too or why run at all?

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:29 PM (PwNLq)

338 I like DeSantis. But I also liked McCain, Romney, Christie and Walker. I'm not going to risk rolling the dice on DeSantis when a sure thing is running.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 19, 2021 03:27 PM (49Exr)

I'm sure DeSantis would pay you not to like him.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 19, 2021 03:29 PM (2DOZq)

339 I don't think his personality is nearly as big of an issue as gets made out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:24 PM (LvTSG)

This is a good point...do we want DeSantis just because we can't take all the Beltway corridor screeching? Is it because the media and 30 blue haired liberal 24 year old chicks on twitter and 20 NYTs red diaper babies with by-lines have successfully whined and bitched so much as to make it too painful?

Maybe every person outside of I-95 could care less about what ABC, NBC and Jake Tapper think. I just don't know - I live in the bubble and the liberal screeching is ear piercing.

Posted by: Boswell at July 19, 2021 03:30 PM (5iUNf)

340 Kurt knows there is no "strong man" out there in the mist striding forth to save us.
We need to stop looking for a righteous man in Gomorrah.
That's just another act of failure theater.

It's up to us.

There will be no one else.

Soft people vote for soft leaders; even us rock-ribbed conservatives are rotted through with softies.

Posted by: Mrm88 at July 19, 2021 03:30 PM (jIL4c)

341 They'll simply swap Biden out if it gets to that point.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:22 PM (PwNLq)

For whom? The whore of the Naval Observatory? She is toxic.

Bernie Sanders? He is fading fast.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 19, 2021 03:30 PM (Q9lwr)

342 If the Olympics end up dying because of COVID, I'll consider the whole thing worth it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, feeling very Danish at July 19, 2021 03:23 PM (LvTSG)

I said here recently that they should just go back to just a few states holding the contests. Not this bouncing around so everyone gets a chance to go broke in pursuit of some ephemeral big bucks they were told would be there's if the Olympics came to town. The only ones making money is the Committee and the grifters that own the land and the venue and the construction gangs.

Start holding the contests in countries where the featured sports grouping is beloved by the hosting country. and none of this every four years crap. A decade would be okay.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 03:31 PM (wb4G5)

343 Trump was always pretty good with playing rope-a-dope with the left, no reason for him to quit now.

Posted by: dartist at July 19, 2021 03:32 PM (+ya+t)

344 Sane Democrats must be very lonely

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 19, 2021 03:32 PM (c8R0G)

345 Start holding the contests in countries where the featured sports grouping is beloved by the hosting country. and none of this every four years crap. A decade would be okay.
Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 03:31 PM (wb4G5)

That's called the World Championships.

Posted by: Just a side note at July 19, 2021 03:32 PM (2DOZq)

346 We will always have war because some son of bitch
wants what someone else has or feels that G-d is on their side or to
distract the common folk who were about to hang their ass.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 03:25 PM (wb4G5)

there is a famous line from the very controversial (on this thread) book, Blood Meridien. "It makes no difference what men think of war, said the judge. War
endures. As well ask men what they think of stone. War was always here.
Before man was, war waited for him. The ultimate trade awaiting its
ultimate practitioner. That is the way it was and will be. That way and
not some other way."

Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 03:32 PM (F2/Ok)

347 desantis has a solid track record, he's facing weasel judges on social media, on cruise ships has had better luck on voting rules for now, the laws on transgender freaks have yet to be tested,

Posted by: alien covenant was much worse at July 19, 2021 03:33 PM (hMlTh)

348
If you copy pasta someone and reply, you hit the character limit fairly quickly.
Posted by: alexthechick

Copy me some lasagna!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 19, 2021 03:33 PM (63Dwl)

349 The media will tell them how well they are doing. Big tech will be the media echo chamber. I do the grocery shopping; it ain't gonna work.

Posted by: pahound at July 19, 2021 03:33 PM (G6vNF)

350
I used to not think so, but I just ran across too many people that said they couldn't handle it and voted Biden or sat it out. It was always upper middle class, types that normally fill out a straight Republican ballot.

Again, I can rage about this, but it is what it is. Trump brought new people in but alienated a lot ones we needed. And most of the alienation was Trump's think skinned ego bullshit, not over policy.

I think 2020 was winnable, even with the fraud. Apparently Trump does too or why run at all?

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:29 PM (PwNLq)

Trump's share of the Republican vote was higher than normal. Not that there's no crossover, there's usually some crossover. Losing a bit of the UMC in exchange for pulling over 20-30% of Dems is a pretty solid trade.

Trump might believe that the fraud issues could prevented or limited sufficiently to allow him to win. I'm skeptical but mathematically he seems to be pretty obviously the R candidate who would get the highest number of votes.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 19, 2021 03:33 PM (z5Vrg)

351 When there are people (and there are a LOT) who are so unserious and unfit as citizens and voters that they actually care more about personality (or care at all) vs. policies - critical policies on vital issues - it is not the "elites" that are the problem.

But there's an element of ignorance and stupidity, actually heaping helpings of both - to vote for Biden for any reason, but especially because of "personality". Aside from bringing along the third Obama term, just more bumbling and disastrous, Biden is one of the nastiest, dumbest, most corrupt Beltway figures of the last 4 decades.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 19, 2021 03:33 PM (OTzUX)

352 Oh and motorsports or extreme stuff? Forget it. They have their own places and playoffs. Why are they in Olympics. They're not an Olympic sport.

That and a bunch of other stuff that aren't sports and were never held in Greece.

Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 03:33 PM (wb4G5)

353 On the job training.

https://bit.ly/3xTvmgm

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 19, 2021 03:34 PM (d9FiS)

354 If you copy pasta someone and reply, you hit the character limit fairly quickly.
Posted by: alexthechick

I would never question the Empress, but copy pasta.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 19, 2021 03:34 PM (c8R0G)

355 Sorry, shouldn't have called MIL "them". She's all woman lol. I'm just bent out of shape, in addition to being OT. Maybe I can vent later in multiple posts because this rage I have isn't dying. Suffice it to say that getting the jab is promoted as you "getting back to normal" but apparently anyone at any time can take that away. Makes me sad when it comes to an elderly Lady. For me, I don't give a shit...

Posted by: Plum Duff at July 19, 2021 03:34 PM (n7Mxp)

356

The Olympics should be held in Greece. The participants should be naked.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 19, 2021 03:35 PM (63Dwl)

357 Desantis as Pres and Trump as press secretary.
Free reign to riff as he does at his rallies.

Posted by: DaisyB at July 19, 2021 03:35 PM (Hswbs)

358 Wonder what the over/under is on days of competition
before the Olympics gets cancelled? They need a big "oh shit" moment
to restore the panic porn.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at July 19, 2021 03:24 PM

Pretty sure Toyota started that ball rolling when they decided to pull all advertisements from the Olympics yesterday.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 19, 2021 03:35 PM (JUOKG)

359 Anyone voting for Biden is, effectively, an idiot. Any GOP voter voting for Biden is simply an idiot. Yes, there are many. No, "we" don't need to somehow magically appeal to such airheads - and "we" can't.

Speaking of Trump's awful personality and ego, what would people here say are the top 5 policy disasters/losses he suffered that were due to his personality?

While we're at it, let's list the top 5 actions that showed Trump's authoritarian tendencies.

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 19, 2021 03:37 PM (OTzUX)

360 I think Trump declines...Melania vetoes another run and its DeSantis....but I've been wrong, like a lot. As Mrs. Boswell points out.

I just think the media and Rolling Stone NEED Trump to run...like a sick drug addict, they have to have it.
Posted by: Boswell at July 19, 2021 02:30 PM (5iUNf)

They may need it to live, but what makes you think they want to live?

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2021 03:38 PM (eoQWY)

361 Trump has to run again. If nothing else than to make Democrats cheat harder and even more obviously than they did.

Posted by: MLCross at July 19, 2021 03:38 PM (SP9pb)

362 Naked Olympics works for like Simone Biles, trans-gendered weightlifters-not so much.

Posted by: pahound at July 19, 2021 03:38 PM (G6vNF)

363 This is a good point...do we want DeSantis just because we can't take all the Beltway corridor screeching?
___

No, if that was the case, I'd be backing someone like Lindsey Graham or Nikki Haley and be ready to lose gracefully.

I'm not even necessarily backing DeSantis, but right now he looks solid and I see a path for him. Guy fights, is conservative, and looks like a new Reagan. Unapologetically backed Trump, that alone is better than 99% of Republicans.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:39 PM (PwNLq)

364 "DeSantis just SEEMS able to do this all the time."

Emphasis added.

We said the same thing about Chris Christie.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 19, 2021 03:39 PM (49Exr)

365 Getting someone on the conservative side is hard, Kameltoe will slip right in after Sundowner is out to pasture, or under a pillow ( whatever) and you will not notice a thing different.

Posted by: Skip at July 19, 2021 03:40 PM (Cxk7w)

366 I hope, and believe, the nominee will be DeathSantis. But the nomination is Trump's if he wants it. I just think he and the country will be better served with him not running, but whatever. If he runs, I'm supporting him 100%.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at July 19, 2021 03:41 PM (pT2Ef)

367 This whole deal where you're probably our biggest benefactor and we love your money but don't come to church without a mask, it makes me sick. I'm not crazy about her church, at all, but this is just sadism as far as I'm concerned. She's an old lady. Church is her big thing in the week. Oh how I hate them.

Posted by: Plum Duff at July 19, 2021 03:41 PM (n7Mxp)

368 As long as sources are not named and directly quoted, they're just making shit up.

Fuck
The press. They're lying again.
Posted by: nurse ratched at July 19, 2021 02:40 PM (0PYT3)

Trying to bring back the rabid antiTrump crowd to bring the ratings back.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2021 03:43 PM (eoQWY)

369 "I'm sure DeSantis would pay you not to like him."
Posted by: Just a side note

Huh? Is this how the DeSantis people are going to treat those who remain loyal to Trump?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 19, 2021 03:43 PM (49Exr)

370 Desantis isn't ready yet. He needs to solidify Florida for the future and bring out the future Gov. to be ready for the election. Don't forget, Florida nearly elected a drugged up mess. Trump uncovered the corruption and exposed the traitors. A Trump win will be the best FU to the left and I trust him to get the economy back on track. Trump's ego has always been on display, his honesty was priceless. Don't kid yourself, all the other politicians have huge egos too, some just hide it and pretend they are not that guy while creating havoc behind the vail.

Posted by: Stellastwocents at July 19, 2021 03:43 PM (cRbt7)

371 With regards to "is DeSantis conservative enough" we nominated Trump despite saying AT A REPUBLICAN debate, Scotland's universal health care worked really well and maybe we should do the same.

In Trump's book, he called for a roundup of assault weapons. He said he didn't want to change any of the abortion laws and wanted the status quo. Gave lots of money to Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

I'd love to know what DeSantis could possibly do that would be even close to these sorts of "questions" about his ideology.

Trump fought really hard for Trump, we were just sort of along for the ride.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:44 PM (PwNLq)

372 "You think the Supreme Court picks were a positive point?"

Explain how DeSantis would have done different?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 19, 2021 03:46 PM (49Exr)

373 While I like DeathSantis bigly, I have certainly come to appreciate the thought of a comeback of a Trump Once Scorned.
Trump is the guy who got 81 million votes in 2020 and the junta who usurped is actively destroying the nation even faster than they were before.
Death To Junta America.
Posted by: (jV+aN) President Orange Man Bad (Rheees Be Upon Him) at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (jV+aN)

Run DeSantis and have him sign Trump to lead DOJ

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2021 03:48 PM (eoQWY)

374 They'll change the primary rules if they have to. For example, create "Super Delegates" like the Democrats have. Making sure those super delegates are squishy civility-fetishists like themselves, who will be pledged to anyone - a n y o n e - but Trump.
Posted by: Hands at July 19, 2021 02:51 PM (786Ro)

No way they can make that stick. Even the idiot Dems have had to drop them as a tool for handling the leftist Maniacs.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2021 03:50 PM (eoQWY)

375 "I'd love to know what DeSantis could possibly do that would be even close to these sorts of "questions" about his ideology."

That's the problem - you don't know how DeSantis would be as President. You are rolling the dice. After Trump kept faith with us, you would abandon him for something you hope might be better.

SMH. I swear, sometimes I wonder if we deserve to be oppressed. Trump has earned our Loyalty. If we turn our back on him for what could easily be a Chis Christie flash in the pan, we deserve to lose.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 19, 2021 03:51 PM (49Exr)

376 Being anti war is like being anti Sun. It's a force of nature and there's usually some reason for it.

What you MEAN is that you are anti made up conflicts because some people want to flex their power and some of them are looking for a payday or their friends are. That's not war, that's business drenched in blood.

We will always have war because some son of bitch wants what someone else has or feels that G-d is on their side or to distract the common folk who were about to hang their ass.
Posted by: jakee308 at July 19, 2021 03:25 PM (wb4G5)

I'm not anti-War. I'm anti-Soldiers sitting around in foreign lands getting shot at without being able to shoot back.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2021 03:52 PM (eoQWY)

377 It also doesn't help DeSantis to have NeverTrumpers in his corner. The treacherous weasels need to STFU

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 19, 2021 03:52 PM (49Exr)

378 Trump fought really hard for Trump, we were just sort of along for the ride.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:44 PM (PwNLq)

this is getting old. It fine if you don't like Trump, we get that. But all of the things you just mentioned, Trump did not do. He did ask questions and he was not a politician. I used to privately question him on the nuclear triad answer. But he had four years, you can't just pull up comments and extrapolate them to an actual term in office. He governed as a conservative. Many so called conservatives do the opposite one they have real power.

Posted by: Quint at July 19, 2021 03:54 PM (F2/Ok)

379 Right, zo DeSantis/Pompeo 2024.

Posted by: runner at July 19, 2021 03:55 PM (xL9OZ)

380 370 Desantis isn't ready yet.

Biden and Harris are ready but DeSantis isn't? Why was Trump ready in 2016 when he'd never held political office? This "being ready" stuff is strictly a conservative bugaboo. Besides, we don't have time to waste anymore.

Posted by: Ordinary American at July 19, 2021 03:59 PM (H8QX8)

381
Again, I can rage about this, but it is what it is. Trump brought new people in but alienated a lot ones we needed. And most of the alienation was Trump's think skinned ego bullshit, not over policy.

Posted by: Blago at July 19, 2021 03:29 PM (PwNLq)

You ask enough people to fill the Stadiums that Trump filled up?

Look, in Blue States these days saying you like Trump can get you assaulted and fired. The press went to Nicaragua before the vote in the early 90s and asked if the Sandanistas would win. Everyone said yes and voted them the hell out.

Posted by: Oldcat at July 19, 2021 04:01 PM (eoQWY)

382 I don't think they read history at all. The leftards really won't see it coming...

Posted by: setnaffa at July 19, 2021 04:05 PM (lrLl2)

383 I find "an (unidentified) former RNC official who spoke with three (unidentified) sources who had dinner with Trump recently" to be... dubious, bordering on garbage.

Posted by: mnw at July 19, 2021 04:14 PM (Cssks)

384 And if he wins they will assassinate him. And who will investigate it and bring the perps to justice? Nobody, because the Deep state doesn't investigate the Deep state.

Posted by: David at July 19, 2021 04:31 PM (u9peP)

385 Great post but I don't think any left wing media outlet really cares about their readership or viewership since they've seized power and that was the goal. They have one more election to steal in 2024 and then then can retire and consolidate all Newspeak under the NYT in 2025.

Posted by: mercury at July 19, 2021 05:21 PM (l7rT0)

386 "but I'd really prefer DeathSantis."

Holy Cow! And here I thought Ace (whichever version it is) had been bought off by Trump in 2016, when he went hardcore right. Could it have been genuine conviction, or just a canny businessman giving the audience what it wants? Either way, not bad for a 29 year old.

Posted by: Baron bon Mot at July 19, 2021 05:56 PM (egOCw)

387 I've had enough of Trump. I would prefer to stay home.

Posted by: skzion at July 20, 2021 04:21 PM (vqSpp)

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