The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

Ah yes...the grift is alive and well in David Frum. His political masters are an afterthought, and have no influence within the real conservative movement in America, but the bills must be paid! So why not write a nonsensical article about how TRUMP! is the bad guy in this whole vaccine mess we find ourselves in. Never mind that President Trump is a proponent of the vaccine and has spread the message far and wide: "Take the vaccine!"

No, as a dues-paying NeverTrump professional fascist, David Frum must blame all the world's ills on President Trump, and suggest policies that smack of Nazi Germany or communist China more than they reflect the traditional ideas of freedom and personal responsibility that until recently were hallmarks of American life.

[Warning: it's a safe link to The Atlantic, but it's an article by David Frum, so don't read it] Vaccinated America Has Had Enough

In the United States, this pandemic could’ve been over by now, and certainly would’ve been by Labor Day. If the pace of vaccination through the summer had been anything like the pace in April and May, the country would be nearing herd immunity. With most adults immunized, new and more infectious coronavirus variants would have nowhere to spread. Life could return nearly to normal.

This reminds me of a blurb I read about the HAWK missile. It accelerates so fast that it could reach the moon in 16 seconds. But...the real world doesn't work that way, and as with everything else in the universe, things tend to slow down as they approach 100% of whatever. So it is unsurprising that the pace of vaccination has slowed, and it has very little to do with President Trump, and a lot to do with the disgusting politicization of the vaccine.

Experts list many reasons for the vaccine slump, but one big reason stands out: vaccine resistance among conservative, evangelical, and rural Americans. Pro-Trump America has decided that vaccine refusal is a statement of identity and a test of loyalty.

There is a large and very vocal contingent on this very blog that is anti-Wuhan vaccination. I have never read a single comment from any of them, even the nuttiest, that links their choice not get the vaccine to their support of President Trump or the conservative movement. I have read many arguments...some ridiculous and some rational...but loyalty or identity hasn't come up!

The rest of the article is similarly nonsensical. He latches on to small differences in vaccination penetration as proof that Trump supporters are America-hating disease vectors, and something must be done! Like forcing them to get the vaccine using the cudgel of government power over their employment, student loans, travel, etc.

His penultimate paragraph cuts to the chase: you Trumpists are actually evil people who hate their fellow Americans and are vindictively trying to hurt the rest of us ~~compliant sheep~~ good Americans.

Read the article if you want to have a bit of fun with his innumeracy and his ignorance of any political group to the right of the Fox producers he so desperately fellates to stay relevant.

The facts of the Wuhan flu epidemic in America are clear: yes, the vaccine probably helps. Yes, the epidemic is petering out. Yes, the variants are still floating around, but so many of the "cases" are actually just positive tests in asymptomatic people that the data are essentially irrelevant.

So get the vaccine. Or don't get the vaccine. I think most people just don't care that much anymore. They are much more interested in the future economic and social health of America, and how to prevent its destruction by the progressives for whom David Frum is shilling.

[Hat Tip: Rondinella Momma]

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 Monkey!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 27, 2021 10:01 AM (kTF2Z)

2 aT LAST!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 27, 2021 10:01 AM (hOUT3)

3 Had to change socks. Didn't expect to be first.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 27, 2021 10:02 AM (kTF2Z)

4 I called the otters.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 27, 2021 10:02 AM (kTF2Z)

5 With most adults immunized, new and more infectious coronavirus variants would have nowhere to spread.

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I love that the dumbasses who Love Science Sexually don't understand how natural selection works.

Hey geniuses, YOU'RE the ones the virus is evolving because of.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:03 AM (+blh7)

6 I bet that monkey's hair smells real good.

Posted by: J. Robinette Biden at July 27, 2021 10:03 AM (VJsqe)

7 >>> I love that the dumbasses who Love Science Sexually don't understand how natural selection works.

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Now that's a glorious auto-correct

Posted by: J. Robinette Biden at July 27, 2021 10:04 AM (VJsqe)

8 Had to change socks. Didn't expect to be first.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

I share your aversion to soiled hosiery ...

Posted by: Dr. Amy Farah Foweler at July 27, 2021 10:04 AM (okV1R)

9 The Human Immune System is not a Conspiracy Theory

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:04 AM (Bmy3R)

10 Maryland nurse talks about what's happening in her hospital:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/YVfQribXCEsX/

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:05 AM (h1hWo)

11 Off puddinghead mushmouth sock

Posted by: 496 at July 27, 2021 10:05 AM (VJsqe)

12 Willowed:
One might almost be led to believe that the

"overwhelmed hospital" stories were pretty much entirely fabricated

bullsh*t, too.

Throughout
this pandemic we have heard numerous stories about hospitals being
overcrowded and running out of everything leaving people to die in the
parking lots and on the streets. Yet I have not seen one single photo or
even a grainy video showing any of this. If any of this were really
happening we would see videos everywhere even on youtube, but we don't.
That should tell everyone that it's all complete and utter bull$hit
panic pron.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 27, 2021 10:04 AM

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 27, 2021 10:05 AM (JUOKG)

13 9 The Human Immune System is not a Conspiracy Theory
Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:04 AM (Bmy3R)

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That sounds like a conspiracy theory.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:06 AM (LvTSG)

14 If the monkey is up that means i got to walk the dog.
Back later kids.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 27, 2021 10:06 AM (axyOa)

15 "Experts list many reasons for the vaccine slump, but one big reason
stands out: vaccine resistance among conservative, evangelical, and
rural Americans. Pro-Trump America has decided that vaccine refusal is a
statement of identity and a test of loyalty."

Uh blacks and hispanics have the lowest vaccination rates in the Country. Idiot.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 27, 2021 10:06 AM (JUOKG)

16 There is a large and very vocal contingent on this very blog that is anti-Wuhan vaccination. I have never read a single comment from any of them, even the nuttiest, that links their choice not get the vaccine to their support of President Trump or the conservative movement. I have read many arguments...some ridiculous and some rational...but loyalty or identity hasn't come up!
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I'm glad I continued reading the essay, because this is precisely what I was going to bring up. But Frum can't get that, because it would require two very important things that he *cannot* permit himself to articulate:
1. That there are many objections someone may have to getting the shot, and some of them may be reasonable objections. This must not be a discussion point. Ever. It is the ultimate wrongthink and even acknowledging it will put the taint of sin on the pundit who does so.
2. It would require a world view more complex than "Orange Man Bad and Bad Orange Man's supporters are in a cult of personality that defines all their actions." That world view - that first grouping filter - must never be allowed to falter.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:07 AM (3p5uk)

17 All I can say is, given the current state of the country, its people and its "leaders", we are in a world of shit.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 27, 2021 10:07 AM (KbCG3)

18 David Frum doesn't understand the right. Shocka!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 27, 2021 10:07 AM (kTF2Z)

19 Irrelevant data are like Silly Putty in their hands. You can make a hat, a brooch, a Pterodactyl... or a fine little permanent power bestowing pandemic.

Posted by: klaftern at July 27, 2021 10:08 AM (r4sI4)

20 Experts list many reasons for the vaccine slump, but one big reason stands out: vaccine resistance among conservative, evangelical, and rural Americans. Pro-Trump America has decided that vaccine refusal is a statement of identity and a test of loyalty.
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It is, I suppose, good to see Frum acknowledging Trump's historical (for a Republican) levels of support among black and Latino people.

Wait, that's not what he was going for, is it? He's just being dumb, isn't he?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:08 AM (3p5uk)

21 To me, the tell is that it is still labeled an experimental vaccine due to the severe lack of robust test data. Add to that, the fact that the government is paying for this via YOUR tax dollars so there is basically no accountability anywhere along the chain?

It is isn't Trump that makes me skeptical (and anti-vax), it is the corrupt cabal of professional grifters and charlatans that infest every aspect of our lives these days via their unconstitutional usurpation of government power...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 27, 2021 10:08 AM (hOUT3)

22 Donald Trump told me to get the vaccine.

That's why I got it.

/sarc

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:08 AM (LvTSG)

23 You force me to get the vaccine and then my health goes south, OPSEC.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 27, 2021 10:08 AM (hTPJO)

24 "the vaccine probably helps"

What a ringing endorsement! LOL.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 27, 2021 10:08 AM (6glt+)

25 Frumkins, a year ago: "There is no way in hell I'm taking Trump's phony vaccine that he bullied the FDA into approving so he can win reelection!"

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:08 AM (Bmy3R)

26 I have a CDC card that says I got the vacc.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 27, 2021 10:09 AM (k/TB6)

27 20 Wait, that's not what he was going for, is it? He's just being dumb, isn't he?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:08 AM (3p5uk)

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It's his culture.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:09 AM (LvTSG)

28 13 9 The Human Immune System is not a Conspiracy Theory
Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:04 AM (Bmy3R)

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That sounds like a conspiracy theory.
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Thats exactly what they want you to think.

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs (2pCaU) at July 27, 2021 10:09 AM (bogXd)

29 @9
>>The Human Immune System is not a Conspiracy Theory.

Not only is the Human Immune System a Conspiracy Theory, it's colluded with Russians and hasn't registered as a foreign agent under FARA and is worse than WaterGate.

--
Carl Bernstein.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 27, 2021 10:09 AM (eq2Rd)

30 4 I called the otters.

You otter not have done that.

Posted by: Joe Beaver at July 27, 2021 10:09 AM (ExIA1)

31 "Pro-Trump America has decided that vaccine refusal is a statement of identity and a test of loyalty."

He is weaponizing the vaccine to demonize the people he disagrees with politically, while faulting us for having reservations about a vaccine that's politicized.

That takes a special kind of "flexibility".

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:09 AM (49Exr)

32 Personally, I think the normal rational people are just worried that this Delta crap will be used to prevent the lifting of the COVID nonsense. I do think everyone is sick of it but the people who don't understand math just can't get over their fear of the small, small chance of normal transmission. And of course they love having a scapegoat to blame.

Posted by: Iris at July 27, 2021 10:09 AM (DibdT)

33 Hey, Ben Had, if your around. I've got my reservation for the mome. Is it at the same place as last year?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 27, 2021 10:09 AM (uYkml)

34 My refusal of the "vaccine" is a statement. It is a statement of opposition to this illegitimate and perpetually lying government.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at July 27, 2021 10:09 AM (o2MD2)

35 "Pro-Trump America has decided that vaccine refusal is a statement of identity and a test of loyalty."

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The bizarre part is to remember that Karmella and other (D)s were taking this very same injection-reluctant position when Trump was in office.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:10 AM (+blh7)

36 Carl Bernstein.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 27, 2021 10:09 AM (eq2Rd)
Human Immune System Gate

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at July 27, 2021 10:10 AM (k/TB6)

37 That should tell everyone that it's all complete and utter bull$hit
panic pron.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 27, 2021 10:04 AM
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 27, 2021 10:05 AM (JUOKG)

I was fascinated that they never really even bothered to photoshop such a picture!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 27, 2021 10:10 AM (hOUT3)

38 The only "statement" i'm making is "I'm not injecting something directly into my bloodstream that I don't need to."

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2021 10:10 AM (/EuRN)

39 The supposed lag in vaccination rates come from black Americans.

Per the CDCs data, not my opinion or 'some say'.

Crackers - 61% of population, 59% vax
Black - 12% of population, 9% vax
His - 16% of population, 17% vax
Asians - 6%, 6%

Posted by: MJ at July 27, 2021 10:11 AM (zwDuR)

40 I think most people who aren't getting the jab are looking at the risk/reward and deciding they don't need it. Simple as that.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 27, 2021 10:11 AM (kTF2Z)

41 I saw coverage of the MIT Study that claimed those who refused Vaccines were Less Educated than those who accepted them.

Notice. They couldn't say Less Informed.

They had to fall back on the level of achieved education to get their stab in.

Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2021 10:11 AM (5rOPe)

42 Biden's flying into Allentown PA tomorrow. Going to stop in at the Mack Trucks factory. Talking about stopping all sorts of traffic tomorrow afternoon for his visit. Seems kinda weird he's coming at all.

Posted by: SMOD at July 27, 2021 10:11 AM (RHGPo)

43 Vaccine resistance for the 25% who are hard no are highest among Democrat constituencies.

So Frum is wasting his breath, if they want higher rates they need to head into the black communities.

But there is no issue which is not worth using to malign Conservatives by Conservative, Inc.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 27, 2021 10:12 AM (5p7BC)

44 >> I think most people who aren't getting the jab are looking at the risk/reward and deciding they don't need it. Simple as that.

Be intersting to see how many of those accept the Flu Shot, wouldn't it?

I know I fall in the camp that would rather die from Covids than from an Experimental Vaccine.

Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2021 10:12 AM (5rOPe)

45 "There is a large and very vocal contingent on this very blog that is anti-Wuhan vaccination. I have never read a single comment from any of them, even the nuttiest, that links their choice not get the vaccine to their support of President Trump or the conservative movement. I have read many arguments...some ridiculous and some rational...but loyalty or identity hasn't come up!"
As I have noted over and over again, a lot of the really silly anti-vax points (it's gonna make you a GMO! it's gene therapy!) are driven by a MASSIVE prog sock puppet campaign. Same reason so many normies in flyover red states are freaking out claiming that masks are too porous to stop a virus, yet so constrictive that they're cutting off O2. See also: "someone died on a motorcycle and they said it was COVID!" and "the virus doesn't actually exist, they never isolated it!"
These aren't driven by Trump support; they're shilled to Trump supporters in a fairly successful effort to make it look, to the lefty base, like these are beliefs that define their opposition.

I'm anti-jab and anti- any sort of mandates, but the right is simply gullible and has no clue what the fuck has even been done to them.

Posted by: somedood at July 27, 2021 10:12 AM (IN1nj)

46 Bullshit. Vaxx is lowest among AA & Hispanics. But you won't read that.

The Rs simply need to pin this on Joe. Vaxx was available in ~December. Trump was out of office a month later. 7 months into Joe's reign, and still not herd immunity? Play clip after clip of Kamala and others saying they wouldn't take the vaxx. Ask FACEBOOK why they haven't banned/flagged these folks for misinformation.

Pin the non vaxx status stories on Joe.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 27, 2021 10:12 AM (BbCS4)

47 The bizarre part is to remember that Karmella and other (D)s were taking this very same injection-reluctant position when Trump was in office.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:10 AM (+blh7)

You know if Trump weren't banned from twitter he probably would be talking up and urging people to get vaccinated. And the number not getting it would probably still be about the same.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 27, 2021 10:12 AM (qxn8A)

48 42 Biden's flying into Allentown PA tomorrow. Going to stop in at the Mack Trucks factory. Talking about stopping all sorts of traffic tomorrow afternoon for his visit. Seems kinda weird he's coming at all.
Posted by: SMOD at July 27, 2021 10:11 AM (RHGPo)

?

I thought they shut Macungie down and moved everything to Virginia....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2021 10:13 AM (/EuRN)

49 >>Biden's flying into Allentown PA tomorrow.

Guy refuses to go to states that aren't PA and Ohio.

Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2021 10:13 AM (5rOPe)

50 If I wanted to get a COVID vax, how do I choose among the several on offer? I haven't been paying any attention to things COVID.

Posted by: Virus Infested gp at July 27, 2021 10:13 AM (qpX6U)

51 The fact that they changed the definition of herd immunity to essentially require a virtually impossible level of vaccination (especially without coercion) is emblematic of the politicization of the entire pandemic and governmental / medical response.

Where is the "science" regarding natural immunity? Why are people who have natural immunity not counted towards herd immunity?

They don't even bother to address basic questions. That's enough reason to be skeptical.

Posted by: Revenant at July 27, 2021 10:13 AM (GvumD)

52 They had to fall back on the level of achieved education to get their stab in.
Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2021 10:11 AM (5rOPe)

But, but, those vaccinated were credentialed, surely that means something important?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 27, 2021 10:13 AM (hOUT3)

53 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:13 AM (Zz0t1)

54 Great David. Now do an article about blacks.

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2021 10:13 AM (sliVX)

55 Throughout this pandemic we have heard numerous stories about hospitals being overcrowded and running out of everything leaving people to die in the parking lots and on the streets. Yet I have not seen one single photo or even a grainy video showing any of this. If any of this were really happening we would see videos everywhere even on youtube, but we don't.
That should tell everyone that it's all complete and utter bull$hit panic pron.

They have been talking about this on Infowars. They did a whole hour, maybe two on Sunday on it. Had people call in who worked in hospitals who basically said the overcrowding was a lie and certain COVID wards were actually being downsized or eliminated.

The conclusion was that the majority of doctors and nurses are Democrats first, and since the DNC wants people vaxxed, they will do their part as soldiers in the political field to make that happen. Even if it means causing harm.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:13 AM (lw49D)

56 "Pro-Trump America has decided that vaccine refusal is a statement of identity and a test of loyalty."
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What a load of bullshit.

An MIT study has already found that the majority of people who are refusing vaccinations are basing their decision on logic and science, and that they are well informed and literate.

It has zero to do with Trump, who encouraged people to get vaccinated, or with "identity" or "loyalty" or any of that other nonsense Frum pulled out of his ass.

The decision not to get vaccinated has to do with making a rational risk-benefit analysis and deciding that for them, the risks of the untested vaccine outweigh the limited benefits.

It's perfectly logical, rational, reasonable, science-based, sane and smart. IOW, it's everything that David Frum is NOT.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 27, 2021 10:14 AM (k4dH2)

57 Why is anybody still talking about Trump? The man is a private citizen. The Biden Administration and all of his little cockboys now bear the burden for the neighbor's dog shit on my boulevard.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 27, 2021 10:14 AM (bCkNL)

58 I suspect a lot of what's driving the low-level hate is the concern that people are coming to terms with what the injection didn't do along with the unknowns of what it COULD do, and they want to make sure everyone else is in the same boat with them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:14 AM (+blh7)

59 They blame gun violence on Trump supporters too.

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2021 10:14 AM (sliVX)

60 The Human Immune System is not a Conspiracy Theory
Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:04 AM (Bmy3R)
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Of course it isn't. It is, however, a socially constructed complex of inputs, outputs and other behaviors. The real problem we face is that our rigid, colonialist constructions in the realms of the so-called "hard sciences" prevent important developments in immunology. There are creatures - bats for example - that are essentially immune to coronaviruses. Other animals like pigs are essentially immune to most forms of influenza.

We remain susceptible as humans because our scientific structures and establishments have been built on a Eurocentric, patriarchal and essentially colonialist foundation of "science." This legacy prevents the formation of more efficacious, socially-constructed theories and assessments that would allow our species to have the benefits that others do. We could all be healthier and face less disease - but only if we slough off the fetters of the regressive scientific practices that demand the impossibility of objectivity. Objectivity itself is just another such regressive construction of the patriarchy. We can do better, but until this changes.

Posted by: Your Kid's Biology Professor at July 27, 2021 10:14 AM (3p5uk)

61 So, my daughter was asking me where I got the information about "most Delta variant cases are folks that got vaccinated."

So, I did a little research and could not find any.

Any help here?

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 27, 2021 10:14 AM (JVCkA)

62 59 They blame gun violence on Trump supporters too.
Posted by: ... at July 27, 2021 10:14 AM (sliVX)

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All those Trump supporters who go into Chicago every weekend.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (LvTSG)

63 Pin the non vaxx status stories on Joe.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 27, 2021 10:12 AM (BbCS4)

My gracious my good man, THAT'S NOT WHO WE ARE!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (hOUT3)

64 If I wanted to get a COVID vax, how do I choose among the several on offer?

We really have too many choices of vaccines in this country

Posted by: Bernie Sanders at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (h5TKJ)

65 If you want some real fun, you can pull up reams of articles from before the election last year from lefty publications about how "Trump's" vaccine is shit, and rushed, and dangerous, and they'll never ever ever take it.

The whole world is a political football for the left, and they've gotten a lot more brazen now that they can mass-censor anything inconsistent off of the major platforms at will.

Posted by: somedood at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (IN1nj)

66 Related tweet:
Reminiscing about how some Wash Post "fact-checker" tried to totally own Trump in March 2020 by pillorying his "inaccurate" timeline for expedited vaccine production, which "experts" claimed was not possible. In retrospect, does this count as vaccine-related "misinformation"?
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/
1420023545531351046

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (UHVv4)

67 They have been talking about this on Infowars. They did a whole hour, maybe two on Sunday on it. Had people call in who worked in hospitals who basically said the overcrowding was a lie and certain COVID wards were actually being downsized or eliminated.

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Didn't the NY hospital ships and parking lot facilities get moved and shut down because there was no demand for them?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (+blh7)

68 "...With most adults immunized, new
and more infectious coronavirus variants would have nowhere to spread.
Life could return nearly to normal."

Implied in this is the subtle assertion that your body cannot function all on its own and has no natural defense mechanism that's always trying to keep you healthy. Therefore it's incumbent upon you to improve your body's brand new non-existent ability to fend for itself by putting something else in it (conveniently supplied by Your Government) to make certain it works normally.

Which is total bullshit and anybody with two functioning brain cells to rub together knows it. It's the physical manifestation of the psychological message that permeates PROGDA: "Be better." Yeah, no. GFY.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (HaL55)

69 50 If I wanted to get a COVID vax, how do I choose among the several on offer? I haven't been paying any attention to things COVID.

If I did get it, I'd want the one-and-done, whichever one it is. No "going back in 2 weeks for another" shizzle. I don't pay attention either.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (Bmy3R)

70 If I wanted to get a COVID vax, how do I choose among the several on offer? I haven't been paying any attention to things COVID.

There is no choice. All use spike proteins, which some say are dangerous. Also, there is the fact that if you haven't gotten it already, you might already be immune due to a prior coronavirus.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (lw49D)

71 For the record, my resistance to the vaccine is not political. I don't need it, so I'm not going to get it. I only take medication I need. I don't get flu shots, but I will probably get the shingles vax.

Intelligent decisions based on personal risk factors, what an unusual concept.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (5p7BC)

72 Liberals and Never-Trumpers---" Trump is taking all the credit for the vaccine!!"

Also Liberals and NeverTrumpers--"Trump is anti-Vax!!"

Posted by: JoeF. at July 27, 2021 10:16 AM (mR6Gs)

73 Ignoring the fact that the vaccine doesn't really work, infections are still happening and those that get it, without being vaccinated, and recover are BETTER apt to deal with the 'variants' that are arriving, which are made DUE to the 'vaccines.'

They're all assholes and should succumb to their injuries after some freak accident that they really should have because they're evil.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:16 AM (Zz0t1)

74 "61 So, my daughter was asking me where I got the information about "most Delta variant cases are folks that got vaccinated."

So, I did a little research and could not find any.

Any help here?
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 27, 2021 10:14 AM (JVCkA)"

Honestly, just hit up the chans and one of their big aggregator posts. Sources get linked. Given our government today... use a VPN.

Posted by: somedood at July 27, 2021 10:16 AM (IN1nj)

75 "...With most adults immunized, new
and more infectious coronavirus variants would have nowhere to spread.
Life could return nearly to normal."

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So...variants cannot affect those who've already had covid? That doesn't seem very sciency. It seems like a huge jump to conclusions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:16 AM (LvTSG)

76 Biden's flying into Allentown PA tomorrow.

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Well he's flying here in Allentown
And they're closing all the factories down

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 27, 2021 10:17 AM (d9FiS)

77 I turned on the capitol kangaroo kourt on CSPAN for 20s before my head exploded. The capitol cop could barely speak proper English, claiming they were fighting for their lives, protecting everybody.

What a bunch of horseshit.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 27, 2021 10:17 AM (ufFY8)

78 What about the other viruses out there? Don't they get any respect?

Influenza, RSV, adenovirus, SARS, norovirus, rotavirus, measles, rubella, herpes simplex, herpes zoster, chikungunya, hepatitis A/B/C/D/E, molluscum contagiosum, Ebola, Lassa fever, dengue fever, yellow fever, Marburg hemorrhagic fever, polio, viral meningitis, viral encephalitis and rabies?

Don't recall having to wear a mask for any of those.
Don't recall being kept from work or traveling or going the store for any of those.
Don't recall a vaccine card for any of those.
Don't recall a totalitarian power-grab for any of those.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 27, 2021 10:17 AM (w9Wax)

79 Why would the Black Community (tm) not trust Big Brother, Big Pharma, Big Fauci, dot dot dot.

It's bizarre.

Posted by: klaftern at July 27, 2021 10:17 AM (r4sI4)

80 50 If I wanted to get a COVID vax, how do I choose among the several on offer? I haven't been paying any attention to things COVID.

If I get one, I'll wait for Novavax. It's supposed to be the more "traditional" vaccine.

Or, a vaccine

Posted by: Bruce at July 27, 2021 10:17 AM (vd8XM)

81 >>Life could return nearly to normal

So.

Covids would be a non-concern.

...but we could only return to NEARLY normal?

Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2021 10:17 AM (5rOPe)

82 "To me, the tell is that it is still labeled an experimental vaccine - "

I was on the fence until my government bombarded me with "it's 100% totes safe, pinky swear" propaganda 24/7.

1) no vaccine is 100% safe, and
2) even if it was, there is no way they could know that with certainty at this time.

Now my only question is: what's their angle this time?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (49Exr)

83 Grifters gotta grift. With President Trump out of office these #NeverTrumpers are finding it hard to pay the bills. So they will invent things to blame Trump for. What a pathetic bunch they are. If bad things were to happen to them I would find it hard to feel the slightest bit of sorrow for them.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (qoLdL)

84 Beating up straw men is all they can do. No way they can engage us on our own battleground, that's for sure.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (DXFDM)

85
The CDC misled the public on whether Ebola was "airborne". They relied on the technical definition of airborne (aerosolized) when they knew people were using a laymen's definition of "can I get it from the guy coughing next to me on the bus" (yes you can). And they did so to avoid a panic (which they rightly assumed was a greater threat but...)

And they lied about the effectiveness of masking re COVID because they were afraid 1st responders would be shorted.

So no, I no longer trust the CDC regarding disease prevention. Nice work gents, you had one job...

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (49Exr)

86 @51
As has been said, ad nauseam, the only thing that is on the level is the virus itself.

Everything else is bullshit and has been a scam and Op from jump street.

Or Alternatively..

Looks like the Globalist really are willing to tank the global economy to get rid of Trump.

We are witnessing evil, spite and hate that beggars the imagination.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 28, 2020 10:12 PM (rw8je)

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (eq2Rd)

87 Ignoring the fact that the vaccine doesn't really work, infections are still happening and those that get it, without being vaccinated, and recover are BETTER apt to deal with the 'variants' that are arriving, which are made DUE to the 'vaccines.'

They're all assholes and should succumb to their injuries after some freak accident that they really should have because they're evil.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:16 AM (Zz0t1)
++++
The data from Israel and the UK seem to indicate that the shots *do* work - just not for very long.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (3p5uk)

88 So, my daughter was asking me where I got the information about "most Delta variant cases are folks that got vaccinated."

I'd start with UK and Israel. Go to the twitter page of Alex Berenson, he has lots of info. Info in the US is being concealed.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (lw49D)

89 I still say, we have never done this kind of widespread testing of healthy people before. For all we know, we're all walking around "positive" (per the PCR method) for a half dozen viruses all the time. I'd like to see the exact same testing method used on healthy people for a wide range of pathogens and see what comes back.

Obviously, that is a study that would never be done.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (8548M)

90 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (arJlL)

91 Fuck David Frum in particular.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (II3Gr)

92 There is no choice. All use spike proteins, which some say are dangerous. Also, there is the fact that if you haven't gotten it already, you might already be immune due to a prior coronavirus.
Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (lw49D)

**

This is where I am. Go get a blood test to check and see if you've got the antibodies / t-cells from this super contagious virus.

BBC is acknowledging that around half of the population is naturally immune (actual number is likely much greater):

https://tinyurl.com/56myt3xc

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (+blh7)

93 Thank you Rondella Mama.

and hiya

Posted by: JT at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (arJlL)

94 Speaking of the chans, I love the compilations of armies of twitter bots all spewing the same "our ER is overrun with Delta!" and "my brother just got COVID!" and "all the stupid Trumpenproles are demanding the vax before they expire!" posts.

No hospital has been crushed under anything since they figured out the Vitamin D / no vent issue, and certainly not since docs started going off the reservation with Ivermectin.

Posted by: somedood at July 27, 2021 10:19 AM (IN1nj)

95 Oh Rondinella Mama.

(Sorry)

Posted by: JT at July 27, 2021 10:19 AM (arJlL)

96 The VA is mandating vaccinations now as a condition of employment (I'm an independent contractor for them, so hopefully won't apply).

Had many dreams about cancel culture last night -- and as I awoke, it hit me: Mandatory Vaccinations == Cancel Culture.

You will be made by fed.gov and SCOTUS to care, to bake the cake, to take the jab, etc., etc. At some point, conservatives won't be allowed to buy food ...

Posted by: ShainS at July 27, 2021 10:19 AM (Cyk6o)

97 "Long Covid" sufferers may get federal disabilities benefits, Biden says!

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/
1420012272769019905

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 27, 2021 10:19 AM (UHVv4)

98 Had people call in who worked in hospitals who basically said the overcrowding was a lie and certain COVID wards were actually being downsized or eliminated.

The conclusion was that the majority of doctors and nurses are Democrats first, and since the DNC wants people vaxxed, they will do their part as soldiers in the political field to make that happen. Even if it means causing harm.
Posted by: Vyx

Hospitals in my area had no beds available when I needed one. I had to be transported from one ERD to another hosp to find a bed for me. The reason was not a flu induced shortage of beds. In my area, at least, the shortage was due to entire wings or floors being shuttered due to a lack of manpower to staff those areas.

It may just be a local problem - dunno.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 27, 2021 10:19 AM (6WCwE)

99 Hey, Ben Had, if your around. I've got my reservation for the mome. Is it at the same place as last year?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at July 27, 2021 10:09 AM (uYkml)

If this didn't get answered, yes. It's at the same place.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:19 AM (Zz0t1)

100 82 "To me, the tell is that it is still labeled an experimental vaccine - "

I was on the fence until my government bombarded me with "it's 100% totes safe, pinky swear" propaganda 24/7.

1) no vaccine is 100% safe, and
2) even if it was, there is no way they could know that with certainty at this time.

Now my only question is: what's their angle this time?
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (49Exr)

The aggressive push is certainly more off-putting than the data(which I read as low risk of death from Covid low risk of death from gene-therapy vaccine, one can argue one is higher than the other but the difference is so small the choice doesn't much matter).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (z5Vrg)

101
Now my only question is: what's their angle this time?
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (49Exr)

***

As Alabama has brilliantly pointed out, if it were a stranger at a bar demanding you drink the beer he just brought you...

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (+blh7)

102 Trump tells us to get the vax, but we don't get the vax because loyalty to Trump.

Ooh, ooh, I got it! It's like Trump denouncing white supremacists fifty thousand times - he didn't denounce them hard enough.

So, he didn't tell us to get the jab hard enough. Got it.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (Bmy3R)

103 This is where I am. Go get a blood test to check and see if you've got the antibodies / t-cells from this super contagious virus.

Yep. If you have a Kroger pharmacy, they have a test for $25. But... I don't think it shows B and T cell response.

Or just go to Tractor Supply, buy some I vermect In pony paste and have it on hand. It works. Dosing at Ann Barnhardt's website.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (lw49D)

104 I was forced into taking the vaccination series. We were told in black and white that if we did not vaccinate we would be fired.

I'm stuck in this shithole and can't move. My job prospects here are quite narrow and my family needs more special than average. I had to keep this job so I took the shots.

I'm old, and if it kills me well my family will get the insurance. And if it doesn't kill me while then I can keep working.

Sometimes there are no good choices and you sometimes have to do what you need to do. I would not have taken it by choice. My kids will not get it.

Sometimes the condescending smugness of the anti-vaxxers is really hurtful. I'm glad you have not taken the vaccination series, I think that's the smart play. But I wish you'd get off my ass about my taking it, my situation isn't yours.

Posted by: Pseudonic at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (vlCHn)

105 my daughter said our doctor told her that all the covid vaccines are essentially the same.
I said "that's a lie. The Moderna & Pfizer ones are, but the J&J is different, and the Novavax will also be different"

This has been our doctor, very nice & sweet, sfor more than 2 decades. I realized during the Obama era that she's wokish, but can't fire her coz too much history.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (oEn12)

106 91 Fuck David Frum in particular.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (II3Gr)

he's all yours, buddy

Posted by: REDACTED at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (YK4Qh)

107 Donald Trump told me to get the vaccine.

That's why I got it.

/sarc
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:08 AM (LvTSG)

People like Frum state as fact that Trump supporters are robot cultists who won't get the vaccine because Trump---even though Trump has told people to get the vaccine.
This makes NO sense.

Posted by: JoeF. at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (mR6Gs)

108 Shouldn't we trust the science?

The science says, if your genetics and health make you vulnerable to something 99.98% survive regardless of the "vaccine," then the herd is better off without you.

But, we live in a world of magic, where the mere incantation "I am a woman" rewrites one's entire DNA and makes even a man into a woman.
So commanding a silly little virus to grant 100% survival is nothing.

Posted by: Mrm88 at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (jIL4c)

109 The issue about current cases for unvaxxed and vaxxed is clouded by the fact that the vaxxed in the main represent a much more susceptible population.

So when you see a stat showing that vaxxed make up 50% of current deaths, what you're not seeing is that based on population characteristics alone they should make up 90% or likely more of current deaths.

These aren't hard numbers but that's important to understand. The problem is the facts and lies are so muddy, and mostly from the "experts", so it's impossible for an individual (including myself) to determine the truth anymore.

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (sliVX)

110 106 91 Fuck David Frum in particular.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (II3Gr)

he's all yours, buddy
Posted by: REDACTED at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (YK4Qh)

It's a metaphor, a METAPHOR!!!
*vomits*

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (II3Gr)

111 74 "61 So, my daughter was asking me where I got the information about "most Delta variant cases are folks that got vaccinated." So, I did a little research and could not find any. Any help here? Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 27, 2021 10:14 AM (JVCkA)"
Honestly, just hit up the chans and one of their big aggregator posts. Sources get linked. Given our government today... use a VPN.
Posted by: somedood at July 27, 2021 10:16 AM

Wasn't that from that one British doctor talking about it but then he said he misspoke and said at new cases were actually unvaccinated. At least I thought that they covered that on drift compatible.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (qxn8A)

112 In my area, at least, the shortage was due to entire wings or floors being shuttered due to a lack of manpower to staff those areas.

It may just be a local problem - dunno.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 27, 2021 10:19 AM (6WCwE)

**

I remember morons discussing that here around July of last year.

IIRC hospitals need patients to pay for staff, and people had been scared away from hospitals.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (+blh7)

113 107 People like Frum state as fact that Trump supporters are robot cultists who won't get the vaccine because Trump---even though Trump has told people to get the vaccine.
This makes NO sense.
Posted by: JoeF. at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (mR6Gs)

========

Weird cult, that one. Almost like it's not a cult at all, but that can't be true.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (LvTSG)

114 BTW, the German chemical plant explosion today was at a Bayer factory.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (UHVv4)

115 61 So, my daughter was asking me where I got the information about "most Delta variant cases are folks that got vaccinated."

So, I did a little research and could not find any.

Any help here?
Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 27, 2021 10:14 AM (JVCkA)
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As far as I know there is neither a test to isolate Delta, nor tracking of vacced vs non vacced data published?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs (2pCaU) at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (bogXd)

116 >>Obviously, that is a study that would never be done.

What is crazy is that the Cruise Ship that was left at sea when this started was the ONLY 'study' that we needed, and it was done unintentionally.

And we dicounted it.

Because it showed this disease wasn't scary enough to use as a cudgel.

Posted by: garrett at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (5rOPe)

117 The Evangelicals are killing Grandma! Again!

Posted by: grammie winger at July 27, 2021 10:22 AM (45fpk)

118 My body, my ______.
I thought dumbocrats knew that.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at July 27, 2021 10:22 AM (buTO7)

119 certainly not since docs started going off the reservation with Ivermectin.
Posted by: somedood at July 27, 2021 10:19 AM (IN1nj)

Asked my doctor about Ivermectin. He gave me some "we are a litigious society. The hospital admin doesn't want to get sued" BS.

I pointed out that the vaccines are still under EU permits. He babbled some more BS.

Posted by: golfman at July 27, 2021 10:22 AM (W145b)

120 108 Shouldn't we trust the science?

The science says, if your genetics and health make you vulnerable to something 99.98% survive regardless of the "vaccine," then the herd is better off without you.

But, we live in a world of magic, where the mere incantation "I am a woman" rewrites one's entire DNA and makes even a man into a woman.
So commanding a silly little virus to grant 100% survival is nothing.
Posted by: Mrm88 at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (jIL4c)

"Trusting the science" now means obeying a sawed-off megalomaniacal government apparatchik without question. Fuck that.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:22 AM (II3Gr)

121 I personally made the decision to get the vaccine due to the potential of mutant superpowers.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 27, 2021 10:22 AM (Y5qcH)

122 Not only Jesus can walk on water. There is also Florida Man.

https://bit.ly/3i6TMhb

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 27, 2021 10:22 AM (d9FiS)

123 "I suspect a lot of what's driving the low-level hate is the concern that people are coming to terms with what the injection didn't do along with the unknowns of what it COULD do, and they want to make sure everyone else is in the same boat with them."

I think you are right. "This isn't supposed to happen to sophisticated enlightened wokes like me! I believe in Science! How DARE those Deplorables evade my fate!"

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:22 AM (49Exr)

124 ++++
The data from Israel and the UK seem to indicate that the shots *do* work - just not for very long.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:18 AM (3p5uk)

The fleebag democrats from Texas beg to differ, with their positive tests.

Remember, 98% of those that get Covid, don't show symptoms.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:23 AM (Zz0t1)

125 Long Covid" sufferers may get federal disabilities benefits, Biden says!

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/
1420012272769019905
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 27, 2021 10:19 AM (UHVv4)

The Next Permanent Entitlement

Posted by: JoeF. at July 27, 2021 10:23 AM (mR6Gs)

126 Evan Sayet did a great youtube thing about how he became a conservative. Then toward the end, he said he was a friend of David Frum. Cognitive Dissonance.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 27, 2021 10:23 AM (JVCkA)

127 In my area, at least, the shortage was due to entire wings or floors being shuttered due to a lack of manpower to staff those areas.

It may just be a local problem - dunno.

Was it lack of manpower because they laid people off and never called them back? IIRC, they did that during COVID-- only employees were in the COVID ward.

Or... the medical staff that took the vax is now having serious problems with their health due to their vaxx and cannot come into work. I know my doctor's office has been really incompetent lately because someone is always out sick and things don't get done.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:23 AM (lw49D)

128 Not only Jesus can walk on water. There is also Florida Man.

https://bit.ly/3i6TMhb
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 27, 2021 10:22 AM (d9FiS)

Imagine planning a trip with no regard to currents, wind, or waves..........

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:23 AM (Zz0t1)

129 Get the vaccine you dirty Trumpist. It's safe and effective. Oh, BTW.... you still have to wear a mask after you get it. - Elite Thinkers

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (pcsoT)

130 124 The fleebag democrats from Texas beg to differ, with their positive tests.

Remember, 98% of those that get Covid, don't show symptoms.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:23 AM (Zz0t1)

========

I maintain that testing is beyond shit, the true death toll is something like 25,000 people, and that anyone vacc'd who is testing positive for covid shouldn't have been tested at all and is also probably not actually sick.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (LvTSG)

131 128 Not only Jesus can walk on water. There is also Florida Man.

https://bit.ly/3i6TMhb
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 27, 2021 10:22 AM (d9FiS)

Imagine planning a trip with no regard to currents, wind, or waves..........
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:23 AM (Zz0t1)

YOLO, bitches!

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (II3Gr)

132 The science says, if your genetics and health make you vulnerable to something 99.98% survive regardless of the "vaccine," then the herd is better off without you.

Posted by: Mrm88
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I'm not following you. Are you advocating eugenics, making fun of eugenics, shining a light on eugenics, or none of the above?

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (sliVX)

133 how do I choose among the several on offer? I haven't been paying any attention to things COVID.

Posted by: Virus Infested gp at July 27, 2021 10:13 AM (qpX6U)

If you have a rational physician, just talk to him. If not, there are two types. One is a new way of creating an immune response using mRNA, and the other type is a traditional killed-virus vaccine.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (Q9lwr)

134 Anybody who has ever charged a battery or loaded a gun magazine has experienced what the government is experiencing. At first the spring is easy to compress, and the bullets enter the magazine easily (or the electrons enter the battery). As the magazine gets fuller, the resistance increases.

The population which at first gladly volunteered for the vaccine is now at or near the hard line of resistance, beyond which more and more effort will result in less and less compliance. Probably past the point of diminishing returns at this point. Whether the agencies pushing it have the ability to recognize this or not remains to be seen.

TL

R providing=> offering => encouraging => enticing => bribing => coercing => mandating => forcing => ???

Posted by: Muldoon at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (Xwt96)

135 Devil's advocate type question: Let's suppose we all got the jab tomorrow... Would the left shut up?

What would they demand next for COVID? When would it end? (trick question - they wouldn't shut up and it wouldn't end)

Posted by: 496 at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (VJsqe)

136 Hospitals in my area had no beds available when I needed one. I had to be transported from one ERD to another hosp to find a bed for me. The reason was not a flu induced shortage of beds. In my area, at least, the shortage was due to entire wings or floors being shuttered due to a lack of manpower to staff those areas.

It may just be a local problem - dunno.
Posted by: Tonypete

You missed a GREAT chance to play doctor !

Posted by: JT at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (arJlL)

137 BTW, the German chemical plant explosion today was at a Bayer factory.
Posted by: andycanuck

Well, at least there'll be no headaches.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (d9FiS)

138 The fleebag democrats from Texas beg to differ, with their positive tests.

Remember, 98% of those that get Covid, don't show symptoms.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:23 AM (Zz0t1)
++++
There's a variable unaccounted for with the fleebaggers: time. They were vaccinated, but don't say when. If they were early - which seems likely - they are past the expiration date now based on what we see from Israel and the UK. The shots looks like they work, but for a matter of a couple of months before the effects wear off. If those guys got the shots in February or March, they're probably susceptible again already.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (3p5uk)

139 So here's something brought up at my family get together this Sunday that I wonder if anyone can confirm or deny as valid or not. If you get one of the Covid shots and you have a reaction to it and you die, will your life insurance pay out or deny you because it's experimental?

Posted by: Buzzion at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (qxn8A)

140 Discussed earlier but relevant to thread, the "variants" bullsh*t isn't tested. It's estimated. Dr. Smith in Podunk, Arkansas isn't scraping your sinuses with a q-tip and then determining which of the COVIDs you got:

"Sequencing tells you what strain of the virus is causing a COVID-19 infection.

Data from the Global Initiative on Sharing All Influenza Data (GISAID), a highly-regarded central genetic sequencing database, showed on Tuesday that in the past six months the US had sequenced and shared results for 4.12% of all positive tests.

The Delta variant now accounts for more than 80% of new cases in the US, according to Scripps Research's Outbreak.info, which is backed by the CDC and uses GISAID data. "

https://tinyurl.com/2nhkbvsm
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muh variants!!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (+blh7)

141 You missed a GREAT chance to play doctor !
Posted by: JT at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (arJlL)

And YOU get morphine, and YOU get morphine, and YOU get morphine!

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (II3Gr)

142 I got the vaccine because I have seen 29 in the rear view window a couple of times, I have diabetes, and I'm on dialysis. (And because the XO threw all kinds of hissy fits.) OTOH, I have questioned both its safety and efficacy from the git-go. There hasn't been time to judge the long term effects. And, as rushed as the process was, I have questions about its general safety. Not to mention that the government itself is saying the vaccine is a total failure by continuing to require masks at certain places and threatening to issue a countrywide mask requirement. (How many of the fully vaccinated Fleebaggers tested positive for the Chinese lung rot?)

As far as political bias against the vaccine -- one of the most conservative people I know is screaming to high heaven that everyone must be vaccinated. She's also mad because Governor Pete hasn't issued a mask mandate for people who aren't vaccinated.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Bitterly clinging to the deplorable life at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (pRR7F)

143 94 "all the stupid Trumpenproles are demanding the vax before they expire!" posts.

As he lay there drowning in his own lung fluid, his faded MAGA shirt soaked with fever-sweat, he threw away the crumpled American flag he had held in his weakening, soon-to-expire grip, leaned close to me, and through his broken-glass trachea he groaned: "Please give me the vax. I should have worn a mask. Also, Biden won the election fair and square and Epstein killed himself. I feel the end coming on. BLEH!"

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (Bmy3R)

144 Didn't the NY hospital ships and parking lot facilities get moved and shut down because there was no demand for them?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:15 AM (+blh7)

True, the hospital ship and other areas set up for overlow were never used. Cuomo was crying about the Feds doing nothing (while he put Covid patients in with the elderly) and used NONE of what was provided to him from the Feds. He cried that they had no ventilators and when Trump got them for NY they went unused. IIRC

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (qoLdL)

145 IIRC hospitals need patients to pay for staff, and people had been scared away from hospitals.
==================
And layoffs were a huge issue then as well; Due to covid, hospitals were forced by government edict to stop elective surgeries and all sorts of routine medical care. Cash flow collapsed, and many hospitals responded by furloughing and laying off staff.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (81ubp)

146 Can you imagine being so intellectually insecure that you'd welcome an obvious dumbass like Frum on your side?

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (y7DUB)

147 I suspect a lot of what's driving the low-level hate is the concern that people are coming to terms with what the injection didn't do along with the unknowns of what it COULD do, and they want to make sure everyone else is in the same boat with them."

Exactly.

I think this same force was driving the mask Nazi Karens--"I have to wear this stupid face cloth SO YOU DO TOO."

Posted by: JoeF. at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (mR6Gs)

148 The folks not getting vaccinated are black, hispanic, and wherever the folks we are letting in through our Southern border hail from.

Posted by: ejochs at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (lSFMQ)

149 "Experts say"

As Sowell said, "For every expert, there is always an equal and opposite expert. But, for every fact, there is not an equal and opposite fact."

Citing to experts is how you avoid citing facts.

Posted by: Mrm88 at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (jIL4c)

150 I get the flu and pneumonia shots annually when my doctor tells me to. Is it the same with flu and pneumonia vaccines, where there are several different brands, like with COVID vaxes? I never heard "stay away from the brand X flu shot."

Posted by: Virus Infested gp at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (qpX6U)

151 My body my choice, like everything leftard, always had a built-in lie. And it turns out (of course) they never even meant it.

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (sliVX)

152 there's some info on the rates in the vaccinated in the UK from this video:

https://youtu.be/Jv3Q74CLU1c

He has a few other videos on the topic so you might check for more info.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (5HBd1)

153 I got vaxed in April even though I had the 'rona over the Holidays. (Very mild case - got a second test to be sure I had it).

As a result of the vax I was able to go maskless at work for about two weeks before LA County reimposed the indoor mask mandate.

Now I wish I hadn't gotten the jab. It's looking more and more like recovered people have good long lasting immunity and I put something unknown into my body without thinking it through.

Experiencing a little 'buyers remorse'.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in California at July 27, 2021 10:26 AM (ZIcGr)

154 "I'm glad you have not taken the vaccination series, I think that's the smart play. But I wish you'd get off my ass about my taking it, my situation isn't yours."

I don't think anyone here would fault you for being forced to take the vaccine.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:26 AM (49Exr)

155 Devil's advocate type question: Let's suppose we all got the jab tomorrow... Would the left shut up?

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Like the perverts did when they got gay marriage.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 27, 2021 10:26 AM (d9FiS)

156 LOL. My doctor said that he has not written any prescriptions for Ivermectin. I replied. "I don't need a prescription. I got it at the farm supply store."

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 27, 2021 10:26 AM (JVCkA)

157 Fuck David Frum in particular.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman

Death by Bunga-Bunga ?

Posted by: JT at July 27, 2021 10:26 AM (arJlL)

158 Remember, 98% of those that get Covid, don't show symptoms.

**

Just like before the vaccine.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:26 AM (+blh7)

159 Long Covid" sufferers may get federal disabilities benefits, Biden says!

https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/
1420012272769019905
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 27, 2021 10:19 AM (UHVv4)
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I've been suffering - along with the rest of the country - from COVID-related policies for more than a year and it may well be permanent.

I wonder if there's a disability lawyer who can talk fast enough to make that case happen for me so I can retire.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:26 AM (3p5uk)

160 The data from Israel and the UK seem to indicate that the shots *do* work - just not for very long.

The data seems to say that the shots work for about 2 months. Maybe.

But can they prove it? Were these people who got the shots exposed to an active COVID infection in those two months? If they weren't, how can we tell the shots worked? Maybe these people simply didn't come in contact with COVID. So what they are calling "effective" is really simply the fact that the people who got the shots were not ever exposed to COVID in that time period.

/welcome to the stage 3 trials people!

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:26 AM (WAylS)

161
say, are we discussing David Frum the ratfucker?

that guy?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 27, 2021 10:27 AM (bTQ72)

162 161
say, are we discussing David Frum the ratfucker?

that guy?
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 27, 2021 10:27 AM (bTQ72)

It was nonconsensual. We've pressed charges, but the DA won't prosecute.

Posted by: The rats at July 27, 2021 10:27 AM (II3Gr)

163 Careful with that vax, Eugene.

Posted by: David Gilmour at July 27, 2021 10:27 AM (h5TKJ)

164 My doctor said that he has not written any prescriptions for Ivermectin

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This is shocking and disturbing. It seems like Ivermectin plus the vaccine would be the preferred route for at-risk people and common knowledge by now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:28 AM (+blh7)

165 One of my sons got the vaccine just so he could go to his cousin's wedding.

Since then, at work there are Karens (one of them male) that want everyone to continue to wear masks.

LOL. He is taking ivermectin now.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at July 27, 2021 10:28 AM (JVCkA)

166 My family is nearly all rabid Trump supporters and also nearly all vaccinated. So, obviously, they did what Trump told them to and not what they felt was best for them given their health issues.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 27, 2021 10:28 AM (8548M)

167 My problem with Wuflu is that they have politicized it, which is what French is doing. I've been through the polio pandemic and a couple of nasty flu pandemics. They never behaved like this. They did not threaten people to take the polio vaccine or to get a flu shot during the others. When there were problems with the swine flu vaccine, they reported it and stopped using it. If they want to come out with a real vaccine that is well tested, I might consider that.

And hospitals have to run at 90% capacity to be profitable, from what I read last year.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 10:28 AM (5HBd1)

168 164 My doctor said that he has not written any prescriptions for Ivermectin

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This is shocking and disturbing. It seems like Ivermectin plus the vaccine would be the preferred route for at-risk people and common knowledge by now.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:28 AM (+blh7)

That is not approved by the Inner Party, comrade.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:28 AM (II3Gr)

169 Aren't variants inevitable in viruses? No matter what you do viruses mutate. The good news is mutations usually become less dangerous (even if more transmissible). That may be wrong, but I guess I thought such is the way of all viruses.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (81ubp)

170 121 I personally made the decision to get the vaccine due to the potential of mutant superpowers.

Eh. CovidMan's powers suck.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (Bmy3R)

171 Long Covid" sufferers may get federal disabilities benefits, Biden says!

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So the person in my family who still has screwed up taste buds gets to draw disability for the rest of her life.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (+blh7)

172 As far as political bias against the vaccine -- one of the most conservative people I know is screaming to high heaven that everyone must be vaccinated. She's also mad because Governor Pete hasn't issued a mask mandate for people who aren't vaccinated.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Bitterly clinging to the deplorable life at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (pRR7F

Sounds Lenore like an authoritarian than a conservative.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (qxn8A)

173 I know the readers of this blog and comment section are sick of hearing me say this, but I worked on the 2 mRNA vaccines' clinical trials, and the trials of a yet-to-be-released vaccine. I am vaccinated with one of the mRNA vaccines. If I wanted to imperil my employment I could post the entire AE/SAE datasets on a pastebin.

I have absolutely no problem with people not trusting the vaccine and deciding not to get it. While I disagree that its any more dangerous than any other drugs that I've worked on, it's still not without risk and that evaluation is up to the individual - NOT to the government.

I will say that the reason why these vaccines were so quick to get to market was not because corners were cut. It was because regulatory authorities actually behaved like private enterprise and were *responsive* - like immediately responsive. What normally took 1 month for me to get done, took 3 days. It was amazing and I hope its the way that drug development and testing heads towards.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (qiiRE)

174 160 But can they prove it? Were these people who got the shots exposed to an active COVID infection in those two months? If they weren't, how can we tell the shots worked? Maybe these people simply didn't come in contact with COVID. So what they are calling "effective" is really simply the fact that the people who got the shots were not ever exposed to COVID in that time period.

/welcome to the stage 3 trials people!
Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:26 AM (WAylS)

Data analysis is fuzzy guess-work at this point with what they're releasing, but if the vaccine has 90 or 95% effectiveness rate and given relatively even proportions of populations are vaccinated against Covid and not, we shouldn't be seeing anywhere near comparable numbers of vaccinated and non-vaccinated getting sick.

There are a couple possibilities here
1. The vaccine isn't effective anymore
2. The 'unvaxxed' have already gotten natural immunity comparable to being vaxxed

Either way there's increasingly less logical reason for this push.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (z5Vrg)

175 163

Golf clap.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (ufFY8)

176 So, Liz Cheney is being promised some really cushy K street job.

the Cheneys don't fart without getting paid

Posted by: REDACTED at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (YK4Qh)

177 The shots looks like they work, but for a matter of a couple of months before the effects wear off. If those guys got the shots in February or March, they're probably susceptible again already.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (3p5uk)

Then it boils down to, are you willing to risk the known side effects, including death, for the 'vaccine' and needing to take it every few months, or chance just getting Covid naturally, all things considered, and building immunity?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (Zz0t1)

178 Sounds Lenore like an authoritarian than a conservative.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (qxn8A

Quoth the raven, nevermore.

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (sliVX)

179 Aren't variants inevitable in viruses? No matter what you do viruses mutate.

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Shut up that's not Science because herd immunity eradicates cold viruses.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (+blh7)

180 So...variants cannot affect those who've already had covid? That doesn't seem very sciency. It seems like a huge jump to conclusions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:16 AM (LvTSG)

COVID info in a nutshell

Posted by: Doof at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (mZUr4)

181 176 So, Liz Cheney is being promised some really cushy K street job.

the Cheneys don't fart without getting paid
Posted by: REDACTED at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (YK4Qh)

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She wanted to be Wyoming's senator.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (LvTSG)

182 This blame is 2022 pre game.

Ds looking at a possible Wipeout. How do you justify economy that is going to have issues? Would be roaring if people had been vaxxed. It's those Rs holding back growth.

CRT & crime will be factors 2&3. But economy when bad is always #1. So it's NOT the policies. But the unvaxxed.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (BbCS4)

183 I just got more value for content from cleaning up the kitteh Isis' vomit than reading anything from David Frum or David French.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (htTIe)

184 Hospitals in my area had no beds available when I needed one. I had to
be transported from one ERD to another hosp to find a bed for me. The
reason was not a flu induced shortage of beds. In my area, at least, the
shortage was due to entire wings or floors being shuttered due to a
lack of manpower to staff those areas.

It may just be a local problem - dunno.

Posted by: Tonypete

They did the same thing here back in April/May of 2020, shut down everything except emergency rooms and few specialty things and sent everyone home. Then they started bitching about not having anything to do.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (JUOKG)

185
Liz Cheney would much better in this hearing if she was wearing Nazi grey, just saying

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (bTQ72)

186 I think most people just don't care that much anymore. They are much more interested in the future economic and social health of America, and how to prevent its destruction by the progressives for whom David Frum is shilling.
[Hat Tip: Rondinella Momma]
Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

Au Contraire, mon frere!
"Most" people aren't running things, but they do take sides in most things. Like coke and pepsi, BK vs McD's, and any number of other things folks do to identify themselves. So if the media says the non-vaxxed are unclean and must be punished or purged, then a good chunk of your fellow americans will go along with it.
Wish them death, it's okay. Make them wear a yellow star. Get them fired, it's all good.
We are in strange times. Usually the history books look at these periods as the leadup to years or decades of horror.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 27, 2021 10:31 AM (z79tQ)

187 I've been suffering - along with the rest of the country - from COVID-related policies for more than a year and it may well be permanent.

I wonder if there's a disability lawyer who can talk fast enough to make that case happen for me so I can retire.

Check this out:

https://tinyurl.com/esry5hnz

Long Haul COVID seems similar to beriberi disease. Possible solutions for you in this link. I hope.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:31 AM (WAylS)

188 182 This blame is 2022 pre game.

Ds looking at a possible Wipeout. How do you justify economy that is going to have issues? Would be roaring if people had been vaxxed. It's those Rs holding back growth.

CRT & crime will be factors 2&3. But economy when bad is always #1. So it's NOT the policies. But the unvaxxed.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (BbCS4)

=========

All the red states will have the best economic numbers while California and New York are dragging down the country's numbers overall. This will be hard to not notice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:31 AM (LvTSG)

189 Aren't variants inevitable in viruses? No matter what you do viruses mutate.

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yes, viruses evolvebto be more contagious and less deadly

it's math

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 27, 2021 10:31 AM (oEn12)

190 "If you have a rational physician, just talk to him."

He has not pressed me to get the COVID vax. If he does, I'll def discuss it. He's a DO, not an MD, but he and his staff have done good things for me. Someday I'll probably get the vax, but I have so little social contact, I am in no hurry.

Posted by: Virus Infested gp at July 27, 2021 10:31 AM (qpX6U)

191 Eh. CovidMan's powers suck.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (Bmy3R)
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Oh, I dunno. Absolute power, titanic wealth, massive influence and legal immunity are pretty sweet powers.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:31 AM (3p5uk)

192 People like Frum, without evidence, keep claiming that getting the vaccine contributes to herd immunity and getting sick and recovering does not.

We should thank the people who get the WuFlu and recover for their contributions to herd immunity.

Posted by: Colorado at July 27, 2021 10:31 AM (Hrwnm)

193 I will say that the reason why these vaccines were so quick to get to market was not because corners were cut. It was because regulatory authorities actually behaved like private enterprise and were *responsive* - like immediately responsive. What normally took 1 month for me to get done, took 3 days. It was amazing and I hope its the way that drug development and testing heads towards.
Posted by: Defenestratus at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (qiiRE)

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Can you give us professional insight into why were mRNA injections were never approved before this emergency?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (+blh7)

194
The folks not getting vaccinated are black, hispanic, and wherever the folks we are letting in through our Southern border hail from.
Posted by: ejochs

It's like gun control. Young urban black men are killing each other so we must disarm old suburban white women.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (63Dwl)

195 139 So here's something brought up at my family get together this Sunday that I wonder if anyone can confirm or deny as valid or not. If you get one of the Covid shots and you have a reaction to it and you die, will your life insurance pay out or deny you because it's experimental?
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I heard the same thing earlier in the year and bounced it off of an old friend who is an insurance agent, he said it was BS and they will pay- YMMV

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs (2pCaU) at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (bogXd)

196 61 So, my daughter was asking me where I got the information about "most Delta variant cases are folks that got vaccinated."

So, I did a little research and could not find any.

Any help here?
__________________

In the U.K., 'The latest PHE data show that the majority of the 257 people who have died with the Delta variant are over 50 and have had at least one vaccination - nearly half have been fully vaccinated."

That quote is from this article in the Daily Mail.
https://tinyurl.com/dju7bjdd

BTW, according to the Wall Street Journal, 2/3 of Britain's population has been vaccinated, and 99% of the cases in British hospitals now are the Delta variant.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (k4dH2)

197 Liz Cheney would much better in this hearing if she was wearing Nazi grey, just saying
Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (bTQ72)

I've got just the thing.

Posted by: Hugo Boss at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (AiZBA)

198 Liz Cheney in Hugo Black?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (htTIe)

199 Experts list many reasons for the vaccine slump, but one big reason stands out: vaccine resistance among conservative, evangelical, and rural Americans. Pro-Trump America has decided that vaccine refusal is a statement of identity and a test of loyalty.

The lowest percentages of people with the vax are Black and Latino. This makes states like MS and AL with large Black populations lower percentage. Not because of their Trump support.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (mbFEM)

200 ++++
Oh, I dunno. Absolute power, titanic wealth, massive influence and legal immunity are pretty sweet powers.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:31 AM (3p5uk)

That's only for Anthony Fauci and Bill Gates.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (Zz0t1)

201
David French is the guy who likes it when the Uber driver bangs his wife after the ride right?

I get them confuzed, the ratfucker and the Uber driver sex pest

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (bTQ72)

202 There must be a lot of cash floating around Manhattan buying Trump Bad pieces. Good times for cuck writers.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (/MaDp)

203 Long Haul COVID seems similar to beriberi disease. Possible solutions for you in this link. I hope.
Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:31 AM (WAylS)
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I appreciate that, but I don't have the long 'Vid. I was being snarky about finding an angle to jump on the dole and check out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (3p5uk)

204 Then they started bitching about not having anything to do.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (JUOKG)

**

Well, other than dance.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:33 AM (+blh7)

205 Assuming PCR tests are legit and CDC published IFR of .26 is correct- we reach herd immunity last Sep-Oct, b4 the 'vaccines' rolled out. But, whatever. #TrustTheScience

Posted by: Professor Science at July 27, 2021 10:33 AM (87Rr3)

206 @173 Posted by: Defenestratus at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (qiiRE)

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Thank you for posting that comment. I too hope Trump's impact on the FDA continues.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 27, 2021 10:33 AM (81ubp)

207 Sometimes the condescending smugness of the anti-vaxxers is really hurtful. I'm glad you have not taken the vaccination series, I think that's the smart play. But I wish you'd get off my ass about my taking it, my situation isn't yours.
Posted by: Pseudonic at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (vlCHn)

I dare you to find a post of anyone here attacking those that have gotten vaccinated. You can find them saying they're not getting it. You can find them talking about reasons why not to get it. But I highly doubt you will find anyone attacking or insulting people that have been vaccinated. Put down the straw man.

Posted by: Buzzion at July 27, 2021 10:33 AM (qxn8A)

208 just saw a mask in Great Barrington

with VAX SUCKER on it

Posted by: REDACTED at July 27, 2021 10:33 AM (YK4Qh)

209 People like Frum, without evidence, keep claiming that getting the vaccine contributes to herd immunity and getting sick and recovering does not.

I'm so old I remember when herd immunity was a conspiracy theory.

Posted by: blaster at July 27, 2021 10:33 AM (mbFEM)

210 David French is the guy who likes it when the Uber driver bangs his wife after the ride right?

I get them confuzed, the ratfucker and the Uber driver sex pest

Posted by: will choose a nic later at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (bTQ72)

My lawyers will be in touch.

Posted by: Fake Taxi Owner/Operator at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (Zz0t1)

211 All my life I've been told that if the FDA did not approve a medication for treatment of an illness, prescribing it was quackery. Now these same people say if I decline to inject a vaccine, which is still in the early clinical trial phase, I am a Luddite. Sick of this BS.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (vN+oL)

212 "108 Shouldn't we trust the science?

The science says, if your genetics and health make you vulnerable to something 99.98% survive regardless of the "vaccine," then the herd is better off without you.
But, we live in a world of magic, where the mere incantation "I am a woman" rewrites one's entire DNA and makes even a man into a woman.
So commanding a silly little virus to grant 100% survival is nothing.
Posted by: Mrm88 at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (jIL4c)"

See here is what I'm talking about regarding stupid talking points shilled into being by the left. Firstly I am vehemently anti-jab, anti-lockdown, etc, however -

The 99.8-ish number is misleading and only applies under a certain age, although the oldsters are doing much better with with the newer, non-prog-approved treatments.
It's still several times as lethal as the seasonal flu, and was a good fraction of the lethality of the Spanish flu when it wasn't being treated properly.

But hey let's chest thump about survival of the fittest and throw out a demonstration that we lack historical context, that will help our cause, right? Let's arbitrarily throw in trannies too.

Posted by: somedood at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (IN1nj)

213 "low risk of death from Covid vs low risk of death from gene-therapy vaccine, one can argue one is higher than the other but the difference is so small the choice doesn't much matter"

That sounds logical, but this is not a standard vaccine. It's a different method entirely, isn't? And relatively new and untested?

Last decade is full of "experts" admitting "oops, we thought we knew what we were talking about". With that as background, I'm going to wait and see what happens to the vaxxed in the coming months.

I have until April before I may be required to get vaccinated, I think I'll wait it out till then.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (49Exr)

214 "~~Vaccinated~~ America has had enough"

It's not a vaccine, in the traditional sense of using a dormant virus. It's an experimental mRNA booster that has had no long-term studies in term of its safety or its efficacy.

What do you call a 9,000 word essay where the very first word invalidates every single thing that comes after it?

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (HK8/E)

215 Then they started bitching about not having anything to do.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 27, 2021 10:30 AM (JUOKG)

Right after they posted their "Heroes Work Here" signs.

Posted by: golfman at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (W145b)

216 CDC is reportedly about to mandate masks everywhere for everyone at all times. If they think there's "vaccine hesitancy" now, wait until the one thing that was considered a benefit goes away.

Posted by: Ian S. at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (ZGrMX)

217 Aaaand the CDC is now reversing its policy and telling vaccinated people to wear a mask indoors

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Well, you've got to believe the CDC. They've taken the Hypocritic oath!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 27, 2021 10:35 AM (d9FiS)

218 All my life I've been told that if the FDA did not approve a medication for treatment of an illness, prescribing it was quackery. Now these same people say if I decline to inject a vaccine, which is still in the early clinical trial phase, I am a Luddite. Sick of this BS.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (vN+oL)
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Things started developing a lot faster once they started welding big block Chevy V8s to the goalposts.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:35 AM (3p5uk)

219 TW, according to the Wall Street Journal, 2/3 of Britain's population has been vaccinated, and 99% of the cases in British hospitals now are the Delta variant.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (k4dH2)

I may be like malaria. The sickle cell trait evolved and was resistant to malaria. Then a special version of malaria appeared that infected people with the sickle cell trait.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 27, 2021 10:35 AM (Y5qcH)

220 Data analysis is fuzzy guess-work at this point with what they're releasing, but if the vaccine has 90 or 95% effectiveness rate and given relatively even proportions of populations are vaccinated against Covid and not, we shouldn't be seeing anywhere near comparable numbers of vaccinated and non-vaccinated getting sick.

FWIW, info from the UK:

https://tinyurl.com/9x2ey5wx

I have a link somewhere from the Public Health Authority in the UK stating that the effectiveness is something like 30%

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:35 AM (kFA7a)

221 188

Not if the MSM doesn't report it.

DeSantis & Abbott and othe red states have other issues, including vaxx rate (as relayed by the MSM). You think they'll report vaxx rate and cases or economic and lower unemployment data?

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at July 27, 2021 10:35 AM (BbCS4)

222 From Powerline....

Summary: Non-Evangelical Protestants have the highest vaccination rate, non-religious the lowest, and black Americans lowest of all.

Posted by: PacosMojo at July 27, 2021 10:35 AM (Uwy9d)

223 If they think there's "vaccine hesitancy" now, wait until the one thing that was considered a benefit goes away.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (ZGrMX)

yup
dumbasses

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 27, 2021 10:35 AM (oEn12)

224 And the hospitals are, again, not full of patients.

Posted by: ejochs at July 27, 2021 10:35 AM (lSFMQ)

225 All my life I've been told that if the FDA did not approve a medication for treatment of an illness, prescribing it was quackery. Now these same people say if I decline to inject a vaccine, which is still in the early clinical trial phase, I am a Luddite. Sick of this BS.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (vN+oL)

Another point I haven't seen put quite like that.

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2021 10:35 AM (sliVX)

226 Regular PCR testing does not identify the Delta variant, that requires additional specialized testing (probably nucleic acid sequencing). Therefore it is done in a surveillance manner, i.e. testing performed on some smaller percentage of samples and those numbers projected to the larger population. This is a common epidemiologic technique.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 27, 2021 10:35 AM (Xwt96)

227 "It's still several times as lethal as the seasonal flu"

Did they settle on an R factor? Last I heard they had set it too high.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:36 AM (49Exr)

228 181 176 So, Liz Cheney is being promised some really cushy K street job.

the Cheneys don't fart without getting paid
Posted by: REDACTED at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (YK4Qh)

=======

She wanted to be Wyoming's senator.

And she could have if she hadn't f'd it up with her Trump hate....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:36 AM (Zmnko)

229 Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (49Exr)

When the guy who invented the new vaccine technology, says you SHOULD have questions about it?

You should have questions about it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 27, 2021 10:36 AM (oHd/0)

230 >>>the Cheneys don't fart without getting paid<
>Liz tried to get a commission on the Red October, but the Russian were fearful of her rebellious, capitalist ways.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 27, 2021 10:36 AM (bCkNL)

231 Of course, Frum ignores that many blacks and Hispanics are not getting the vaccine. A guy on the radio yesterday said blacks remember things like the Tuskegee experiment and don't trust the government. First of all, I doubt most blacks know a damn thing about Tuskegee, although it was a real and horrific incident. Nah, their fear is more based on things like the charge that whites created AIDs to kill blacks, or the Republicans somehow made people in the hood smoke crack cocaine in the '80's and 90's.

Of course, it doesn't make a lot of sense to believe that the government is out to kill blacks and so therefore, they need a bigger government to take care of us. But logic is in short supply among libs of all races.

Posted by: Donna, now with 100% new and improved &&&&&&&&& at July 27, 2021 10:36 AM (HabA/)

232 I suspect a lot of what's driving the low-level hate is the concern that people are coming to terms with what the injection didn't do along with the unknowns of what it COULD do, and they want to make sure everyone else is in the same boat with them.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing?

Bingo.

Bucket of crabs phenomenon.

Posted by: Joe Mama at July 27, 2021 10:37 AM (WmGrA)

233 The difference between the Spanish Influenza of 1918-1919 and today's science?

In 1918 they were trying to actually find the cause. Today? They want to bury the cause.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:37 AM (htTIe)

234 I appreciate that, but I don't have the long 'Vid. I was being snarky about finding an angle to jump on the dole and check out.

I'm glad.

"Too scared to work because of COVID." See a psychiatrist. Get SSDI.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:37 AM (kFA7a)

235 >>>>>217 Aaaand the CDC is now reversing its policy and telling vaccinated people to wear a mask indoors

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Broken record here: Since when did we start following every edict the CDC puts out?

Women - ONLY 1 DRINK FOR YOU!!!
Men - ONLY 2 DRINKS FOR YOU!!!

Oh, and women in their childbearing years - NO DRINKS FOR YOU AT ALL!!!

We treated the CDC with skepticism (and some ridicule) for decades. Why the change?

Posted by: 496 at July 27, 2021 10:37 AM (VJsqe)

236 I have absolutely no problem with people not
trusting the vaccine and deciding not to get it. While I disagree that
its any more dangerous than any other drugs that I've worked on, it's
still not without risk and that evaluation is up to the individual - NOT
to the government.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 27, 2021 10:29 AM (qiiRE)

Exactly.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2021 10:37 AM (Q9lwr)

237 Bucket of crabs phenomenon.
Posted by: Joe Mama at July 27, 2021 10:37 AM (WmGrA)

I could do with a bucket of boiled crabs right now.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:37 AM (II3Gr)

238 And the hospitals are, again, not full of patients.
Posted by: ejochs at July 27, 2021 10:35 AM (lSFMQ)

Pretty much, this.

I don't care how many fucking cases you have. Deaths. That's the only number that matters. I really don't care that much about hospitalizations. If you have a fever or symptoms, go in and get tested. If you're positive, they'll treat you accordingly and send you home. You'll 9.995 times out of 10 be FINE.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

239 BTW, the German chemical plant explosion today was at a Bayer factory.
Posted by: andycanuck

Well, at least there'll be no headaches.

Oh noes, where will I get my heroin?

tinyurl.com/7duf2shj

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at July 27, 2021 10:38 AM (w9Wax)

240 So I see the WH is gonna announce today at 3 that vaccinated "folks" need to wear masks.... LOL.. That really instills confidence in the vaccine doesn't it...

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:38 AM (Zmnko)

241 Can you give us professional insight into why were mRNA injections were never approved before this emergency?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (+blh7)

I personally can't. I'm not up on the "biology" or "science-y" stuff behind how these damn drug cocktails work. What I do is ensure that data from your Electronic Health Record system makes it into our Clinical Data Management System in a accurate, reliable fashion. I also setup the data architecture behind the analysis thats performed on clinical trial *operations* - not outcomes (my goal everyday is to make drug development better, faster, cheaper). Once the clinical trial data leaves my view-silo'd, regulated, blinded (meaning I can't tell who got investigational product or who got placebo) data architecture, it goes to the biostats and medical writing group who are determine whether the endpoints of the protocol were met. They're the ones that probably could tell you the nuances of the mRNA technology/biology.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 27, 2021 10:38 AM (qiiRE)

242 It's still several times as lethal as the seasonal flu,

**

Turns out a lot of the cases probably WERE the flu, since they admitted that some testing couldn't differentiate.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:38 AM (+blh7)

243 Life outside prison was nice while it lasted.

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2021 10:38 AM (sliVX)

244 Leftist democrats have been playing the "Only ignorant hick rubes in flyover JesusLand believe X" for a long, long time.

It's part of the "divide and conquer" strategy they've employed for decades now.

It's why the OrangeMan Bad had to go, by any means necessary. Because this notion that ONLY white racist neanderthals were supporting Donny Two Scoops, and NOBODY else, just wasn't able to be maintained.

Their propaganda mills, the "mighty wurlitzer" is pretty damned effective, though not here. Same same with "vaccination" rates.

They would have you believe that it is only white rednecks who are refusing the jab. The reason I have reluctantly developed a hatred of the "media" is because none of this stuff was necessary, decades of stirring up shit between peaceable Americans was never necessary, nor desirable, except from the standpoint of queering the vote and acquiring power. These are just cunty people, no way around it, and fully deserving of anything they got comin' to them, frankly.

Posted by: Common Tater at July 27, 2021 10:39 AM (XGA3u)

245 COVID 2022: Hazmat suits with respirators 24/7.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:39 AM (kFA7a)

246 .

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at July 27, 2021 10:39 AM (AiZBA)

247 Time for a Brazil quote - "Suspicion breeds confidence."

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:39 AM (htTIe)

248 "111 Wasn't that from that one British doctor talking about it but then he said he misspoke and said at new cases were actually unvaccinated. At least I thought that they covered that on drift compatible.
Posted by: Buzzion at July 27, 2021 10:21 AM (qxn8A)

A lot of sources are throwing up chaff in the form of ass-pulled numbers, Fauci included. All the numbers I've seen with any reasonable expectation of not being pencil whipped show either no discernable effect for the vax on hospitalization or deaths, or leaning to the vax being worse.

And I know A LOT of healthcare workers passing me their own observations that jive with those numbers and defies the prog narrative.

At this point the left is just pissing into the wind and making shit up, in a panic to get more people jabbed. It's hard to tell what they're up to, but I think they need to position themselves to take credit for the wuflu petering out, with the potential bonus of framing vax side effects as another wave.

Posted by: somedood at July 27, 2021 10:39 AM (IN1nj)

249 Shouldn't we trust the science?

Yes we should.
VAERS says 12,000 have died within a month of getting the shot. That's all I need to know.

Btw, if you are including gunshot and motorcycle deaths because the person tested positive for covid, then I am counting deaths from the jab.

WHENEVER THE JAB TOOK PLACE.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 27, 2021 10:39 AM (hTPJO)

250 Basiball been beriberi good to me.

Posted by: chico esquela at July 27, 2021 10:39 AM (UHVv4)

251 When the guy who invented the new vaccine technology, says you SHOULD have questions about it?

You should have questions about it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 27, 2021 10:36 AM (oHd/0)

All it means is that white supremacy has gotten in the way of true innovation, and the so-called "inventor" should step aside and allow us true believers to be coined as the real inventor of this life-saving technology.

Never question anything created by the Party. Ever.

Posted by: Transgender lobby at July 27, 2021 10:39 AM (HK8/E)

252 Aaaand the CDC is now reversing its policy and telling vaccinated people to wear a mask indoors

===
f***k
just had a little over a month of nekkid face freedom at work
the coworking karens gonna be overjoyed

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 27, 2021 10:39 AM (oEn12)

253 I have never gotten a flu shot and no one ever cared. But this one flu, and only this one flu has the world in a tizzy. Bogus Biden is sending out scouts to knock on your doors. Cuomo is suggesting putting unwilling subjects into cars and driving them to a vax place. Extremely troubling and highly suspicious, especially because it (COVID) appears to be petering out, naturally.

Posted by: washrivergal at July 27, 2021 10:39 AM (XZvba)

254 So I see the WH is gonna announce today at 3 that vaccinated "folks" need to wear masks.... LOL.. That really instills confidence in the vaccine doesn't it...
Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:38 AM (Zmnko)

So, we've wasted BILLIONS on useless vaccines when all we needed all along was masks to thwart a virus that's actually smaller than 99.9996% of the masks worn by people?

Bonus.......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)

255 Posted by: Common Tater at July 27, 2021 10:39 AM (XGA3u)

All worth repeating.

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2021 10:40 AM (sliVX)

256 my guess is the dims are planning a removal of Biden ala Reichstag

and of course , they will blame it on the GOP/white supremacists

Posted by: REDACTED at July 27, 2021 10:40 AM (YK4Qh)

257 It seems to me that a lot of the COVID hysteria is centered around fear of getting sick and dying.

Not sure how to break it to the masses, but everyone dies.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:40 AM (kFA7a)

258 Anyone watching the kangaroo court today? My blood pressure won't take it

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:40 AM (Zmnko)

259 Faster than a hurriedly-approved mRNA gene treatment therapy. More powerful than the human immune system! Able to leap the Constitution in a single bound!

It's a fraud! It's a sham! It's CovidMan!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:41 AM (Bmy3R)

260 If you don't get the vax you are letting Biden and the regime down. I denounce myself.

Posted by: Ripley at July 27, 2021 10:41 AM (MxEKc)

261 Joey Bidet goes all Paul von Hindenbrug via Wuhan Flu finally getting him in about a year.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:41 AM (htTIe)

262 So I see the WH is gonna announce today at 3 that vaccinated "folks" need to wear masks.

I'm not going backwards.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 27, 2021 10:41 AM (45fpk)

263 For those who don't get the reference, the man who actually invented the concept of trans-"gender" surgery (I think it was John's Hopkins) is on record stating that his invention was a failure in terms of actually giving these people better lives and that the true ethical way is to not promote the surgery.

As if that would stop the true believers.

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at July 27, 2021 10:41 AM (HK8/E)

264 "241 Can you give us professional insight into why were mRNA injections were never approved before this emergency?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:32 AM (+blh7)"

They're new.

And honestly, the issue isn't the mRNA tech, it's how they chose to employ it in this case - either incompetently, or maliciously, depending on who knew what about various virus features before hand.

It makes one question whether the western left didn't deliberately fund retarded research in the PRC when they did, specifically because the capacity to crank out a new vaccine in record time was coming online.

Posted by: somedood at July 27, 2021 10:41 AM (IN1nj)

265 I have never gotten a flu shot and no one ever cared. But this one flu, and only this one flu has the world in a tizzy. Bogus Biden is sending out scouts to knock on your doors. Cuomo is suggesting putting unwilling subjects into cars and driving them to a vax place. Extremely troubling and highly suspicious, especially because it (COVID) appears to be petering out, naturally.

Makes you think that it's about something other than doing a cash transfer from the US/ world gov to Big Pharma doesn't it?

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 10:41 AM (kFA7a)

266 Vyx

"Life is lethal, no one gets out alive."

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:42 AM (htTIe)

267 211 All my life I've been told that if the FDA did not approve a medication for treatment of an illness, prescribing it was quackery. Now these same people say if I decline to inject a vaccine, which is still in the early clinical trial phase, I am a Luddite. Sick of this BS.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM (vN+oL)

FDA approval does mean strong vetting. Lack of FDA approval doesn't imply anything's particularly wrong with a medicine though. They just take forever. It's like a ten-year process and the medicine doesn't change.

If a drug company is bothering to try the FDA process, it's probably reasonably safe. Not necessarily effective, but the FDA doesn't demand much in the way of effectiveness either.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 27, 2021 10:42 AM (z5Vrg)

268 The 99.8-ish number is misleading and only applies
under a certain age, although the oldsters are doing much better with
with the newer, non-prog-approved treatments.

It's still several times as lethal as the seasonal flu, and was a
good fraction of the lethality of the Spanish flu when it wasn't being
treated properly.

But hey let's chest thump about survival of the fittest and throw
out a demonstration that we lack historical context, that will help our
cause, right? Let's arbitrarily throw in trannies too.

Posted by: somedood at July 27, 2021 10:34 AM

In my County the covid is less lethal than the seasonal flue. 109 died from covid out of 35,000 and our population includes some outliers which has increased the number of deaths being reported in my County that most other Counties do not have. We have both a Federal and a State VA nursing homes. The State VA facility gets people from all over NE Texas and the Federal VA home gets people from Texas, southern Oklahoma and Western Arkansas.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 27, 2021 10:42 AM (JUOKG)

269 Can you give us professional insight into why were mRNA injections were never approved before this emergency?
===============
Not an answer to your question, but I see the innovation just occurred recently, with Moderna leading the way. Flagship Ventures is that unusual venture capital firm who actually invests is very new technologies, and I believe they led the way on this company, beginning in 2012. To go from raw research ideas to a marketable vaccine in nine years is amazing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 27, 2021 10:42 AM (81ubp)

270 "Life is lethal, no one gets out alive."
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:42 AM (htTIe)

It's a sexually-transmitted terminal condition.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:42 AM (II3Gr)

271 Insomniac gets it... well not in that way I mean

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:43 AM (htTIe)

272 I have absolutely no problem with people not
trusting the vaccine and deciding not to get it. While I disagree that its any more dangerous than any other drugs that I've worked on,

Posted by: Defenestratus

Give me the stats on a two year study of the jab.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 27, 2021 10:43 AM (hTPJO)

273 For disclosure, I'm fully vaccinated. That out of the way:

The State is fully responsible for this public relations disaster. As people started to get the vaccine, attention whore/lying psychopath Fauci suggested vaccinated people should wear two or three masks; although attempts have been made to memoryhole it, the CDC initially wanted mask mandates for the fully vaccinated. The only logical conclusion was the vaccines didn't work. It increasingly appears that may be the case.

Of course, the groups least likely to be vaccinated are black and Hispanic. This is interesting only in that Frum doesn't go there.

Obviously, if it emerges the vaccines did more harm than good (still doubtful), the government likely will be toppled. That's probably Frum's main concern since he would be one of the pigs, albeit a minor one, folks would want liquidated.

If there is something wrong with the vaccines it would be best if the government came clean now.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 27, 2021 10:43 AM (cpLq8)

274 The disconnect between demanding people get the vaccine then turning around and demanding vaccinated people also wear masks is obvious.

What even my jaded and cynical self is surprised at is how many people buy into wearing a mask, even though they're vaccinated.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 27, 2021 10:43 AM (2SdPm)

275 Btw, if you are including gunshot and motorcycle deaths because the person tested positive for covid, then I am counting deaths from the jab.

**

This.

So. Much. This.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (+blh7)

276 Buzz I have not been personally attacked here although I have elsewhere. The condescending smugness however is quite present and several of the usual suspects here. Anyway, you're dead. Shouldn't you be enjoying your internal rest?

Posted by: Pseudonic at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (vlCHn)

277 Sometimes the condescending smugness of the anti-vaxxers is really hurtful. I'm glad you have not taken the vaccination series, I think that's the smart play. But I wish you'd get off my ass about my taking it, my situation isn't yours.
Posted by: Pseudonic at July 27, 2021 10:20 AM (vlCHn)

I've never indulged in "condescending smugness," at least about people taking the Kung Flu shot. If you feel you need to (or are being forced to), that's your decision and I respect your choice. I find, not smugness, but outright hostility, from the vaxxed to those of us who, for our own reasons, do not wish to be guinea pigs.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (2JVJo)

278 The only place we saw video of overcrowded hospitals or people dead on the street was from China ... funny that.

Posted by: Haywood at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (0WFZk)

279 5 to 1, baby one and five
No one here gets out alive

Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (Bmy3R)

280 Haha, news about the masks is tanking the market.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (UuD2k)

281 Excellent rant, CBD.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (2SdPm)

282 Insomniac gets it... well not in that way I mean
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:43 AM (htTIe)

BURN!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (Zz0t1)

283 "I worked on the 2 mRNA vaccines' clinical trials, and the trials of a yet-to-be-released vaccine. I am vaccinated with one of the mRNA vaccines"

Would you mind going over how an mRNA vaccine is different from a standard vaccine?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (49Exr)

284 262 So I see the WH is gonna announce today at 3 that vaccinated "folks" need to wear masks.

I'm not going backwards.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 27, 2021 10:41 AM (45fpk)

It is amazing that after all is said and done, mask mandates may be the thing that kicks off a blue/red civil war.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 27, 2021 10:45 AM (KbCG3)

285 Other people's opinion has no bearing on my personal vaccine choice. That said, I'm beginning to notice that a lot of these folks who wish me harm really want me to get a shot.

Posted by: Neoluddite at July 27, 2021 10:45 AM (bsADT)

286 Repeat from yesterday but newly relevant.

Health
To Defeat Delta Variant, Experts Recommend Doing All The Things That Didn't Work The First Time
July 26th, 2021 186

From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 27, 2021 10:45 AM (d9FiS)

287 Not an answer to your question, but I see the innovation just occurred recently, with Moderna leading the way. Flagship Ventures is that unusual venture capital firm who actually invests is very new technologies, and I believe they led the way on this company, beginning in 2012. To go from raw research ideas to a marketable vaccine in nine years is amazing.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

mRNA therapy is 30 years old.
Bing it.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 27, 2021 10:45 AM (hTPJO)

288 According to Zerohedge the CDC is going to reverse its guidance and mandate masks indoors for the vaccinated. I have natural immunity but I have to admit outside of the elderly with comorbidities I can't understand getting the vax outside of being forced to to provide for family/(ie: employer said do it or your fired). I have had Covid and have long covid. Your health can't be replaced and as a country we have to make a stand sometime. This level of force for a virus that is so survivable is ridiculous.

Posted by: lightning at July 27, 2021 10:45 AM (HnI4V)

289
Bucket of crabs phenomenon.
Posted by: Joe Mama

Plate of shrimp

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 27, 2021 10:45 AM (63Dwl)

290 Ivermectin also seems to help with "long Covid" too.

The big problem for them is, what's the point of the vaccine? People would be willing to take it, if it meant they could get on with their lives. But they can't. Get the vaccine and they still insist you wear a mask and shut down businesses on a whim. What's the incentive to get vaccinated?

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 10:45 AM (5HBd1)

291 Ahoy, Frum!

Posted by: Little Admiral Kristol at July 27, 2021 10:46 AM (TKmok)

292 Some say there's no such thing as good and evil. Francis says I should invite illegals into my home and wear a mask. Or is it double mask? I can't keep up.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 27, 2021 10:46 AM (bCkNL)

293 David Frum is the same piece of shit who said that all gun owners are cowards, and that the lesson of Cinco de Mayo is that only a standing army can defeat an invasion, deliberately insinuating that no Second Amendment supporters had ever served in the military. Hey Frummy Boy? This coward would be happy meet you face to face.

Posted by: Ken at July 27, 2021 10:46 AM (ledCy)

294 Talk of all this seafood and now am pondering sushi. Nyah

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:46 AM (htTIe)

295 See, this is what I was talking about upthread. I want to find out more about what an mRNA vaccine is for myself, I google it, and I get this propaganda:

"mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. mRNA vaccines do not affect or interact with our DNA in any way. Get the vaccine details."

Not getting a warm fuzzy re objectivity here.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:47 AM (49Exr)

296 Bucket of crabs phenomenon.
Posted by: Joe Mama

-----
"Stay right where you are. Enjoy the crab Rangoon. I'll be right back."

Posted by: Pagan Min at July 27, 2021 10:47 AM (VJsqe)

297 I've never indulged in "condescending smugness," at least about people taking the Kung Flu shot. If you feel you need to (or are being forced to), that's your decision and I respect your choice. I find, not smugness, but outright hostility, from the vaxxed to those of us who, for our own reasons, do not wish to be guinea pigs.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (2JVJo)

Yep, very sanctimonious. Most people got it because they wanted to protect themselves, now of course, many are saying they did it out of altruism and are demanding others do the same.

Posted by: CN at July 27, 2021 10:47 AM (ONvIw)

298 The only place we saw video of overcrowded hospitals or people dead on the street was from China ... funny that.
A Chinese ex-coworker from my lab days reports that she really can't go back to China to visit her elderly parents, because there's a two-stage process of quarantine, and she'd be there a month before she could see them. The point is that this doesn't sound like a country that has things under control, despite the fact that we never hear about it here.

Posted by: pep at July 27, 2021 10:47 AM (ZsR3z)

299 The Conservative Case for Rounding Up the Unjabbed!

Posted by: Little Admiral Kristol at July 27, 2021 10:47 AM (TKmok)

300 Anyone watching the kangaroo court today? My blood pressure won't take it
Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:40 AM (Zmnko)
**********
5 minutes was all I could take and then switched the channel. What a sham.

Posted by: redridinghood at July 27, 2021 10:47 AM (NpAcC)

301 China nukes itself to create more parking lots.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 27, 2021 10:47 AM (ptq0O)

302 I google it, and I get this propaganda:

"mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. mRNA vaccines do not affect or interact with our DNA in any way. Get the vaccine details."

Not getting a warm fuzzy re objectivity here.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:47 AM (49Exr)

Don't google anything. It hates you. It wants to manipulate you. It wants to control you.

It is the Devil.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at July 27, 2021 10:48 AM (Zz0t1)

303 I could do with a bucket of boiled crabs right now.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:37 AM (II3Gr)

Steamed crabs >>> boiled crabs

Posted by: Doof at July 27, 2021 10:48 AM (mZUr4)

304 China nukes itself to create more parking lots.
Do they validate?

Posted by: pep at July 27, 2021 10:48 AM (ZsR3z)

305 For those with the comorbidities that make them most vulnerable to covid, the vaccine benefit (probably) outweighs the vaccine risk. But that is often older people with bad health.

For younger healthy people, probably not good to take an experimental vaccine, at least till it is improved (some known issues were hidden, but can be fixed maybe). Fauci and his "Noble Lie" (we have to scare people with lies to get them to obey, for their own good) ... is not noble, it is a lie that he profits from directly, financially and it empowers him over the whole medical hierarchy.

imo there is a more nefarious globalist motive ... but there are (probably) no nanobots in each vaccine dose.

Posted by: illiniwek at July 27, 2021 10:48 AM (Cus5s)

306 Well, auto cucumber killed that joke...

Posted by: Pseudonic at July 27, 2021 10:48 AM (vlCHn)

307 Wasn't there a leaked email about "the surge" occurring on August 1st? A magical email that knew the future?

Posted by: ... at July 27, 2021 10:48 AM (sliVX)

308 The markets tanking is a good sign!

Posted by: Kunt at July 27, 2021 10:49 AM (UHVv4)

309 Well video killed the radio star

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:49 AM (htTIe)

310 So, we've wasted BILLIONS on useless vaccines when all we needed all along was masks to thwart a virus that's actually smaller than 99.9996% of the masks worn by people?

Bonus.......
Posted by: Sponge

If you are wearing a mask and can smell my fart, your mask is less than useless.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 27, 2021 10:49 AM (hTPJO)

311 240 So I see the WH is gonna announce today at 3 that vaccinated "folks" need to wear masks.... LOL.. That really instills confidence in the vaccine doesn't it...
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Will this announcement be made by Jelly Head? Odds on him shitting himself.

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 27, 2021 10:49 AM (/MaDp)

312 What's the incentive to get vaccinated?
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 10:45 AM (5HBd1)

That's the creepy part. The incentive is that you will be allowed to hold a job, go out for dinner, attend school, get your hair cut, obtain medical care, borrow money, participate in organizations, visit your grandparents, etc......

Posted by: Colorado at July 27, 2021 10:49 AM (Hrwnm)

313 Yes we should.
VAERS says 12,000 have died within a month of getting the shot. That's all I need to know.
________________

Did you see that article in the Daily Mail yesterday, about the woman who'd had to have both legs amputated? Black lady, I forget what country, but she'd had some kind of reaction -- either to the virus, or to the vaccine, which the article said she'd had less than 30 days before her symptoms started. Doctors don't know what caused it, but she's going to have to have both her arms amputated as well. In the photo, she was in her hospital bed with her bandaged stumps, and you could see the blackened dead flesh on what used to be her hands. Really awful.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 27, 2021 10:49 AM (k4dH2)

314 So I see the WH is gonna announce today at 3 that vaccinated "folks" need to wear masks

**

They might be asymptomatic!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:50 AM (+blh7)

315 Will this announcement be made by Jelly Head? Odds on him shitting himself.
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 27, 2021 10:49 AM (/MaDp)

I'd pay to see that

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:50 AM (Zmnko)

316 You've got to be kidding - RENEWING the baseless and indefensible mask nonsense?

The most visible, concrete evidence of scientific illiteracy and lack of judgement in the populace, and the most egregious indefensible ukaz of all of them in this catastrophic chapter, is getting a second run?

For the billionth time - will a single public figure of any visibility in the US finally lash out and demand to see the (non-existent) "science" behind this, while dumping the enormous and clear actual science showing masks are of no value on the table?

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 27, 2021 10:50 AM (OTzUX)

317
You missed a GREAT chance to play doctor !
Posted by: JT at July 27, 2021 10:24 AM (arJlL)

And YOU get morphine, and YOU get morphine, and YOU get morphine!
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at July 27, 2021 10:25 AM (II3Gr)

I'm a doctor, ma'am.... uhhh, an orthodontist. I'm gonna have to ask you to take off all your clothes.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 27, 2021 10:50 AM (n+4am)

318 Why Wang was taking pictures of the parking lot.

Posted by: klaftern at July 27, 2021 10:50 AM (r4sI4)

319 I suspect Bai-dumb will push for a Macron style vaxport next

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 27, 2021 10:50 AM (oEn12)

320 So how many in DC got infected with the Wuhan Flu by the Texas Fleabaggers?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:50 AM (htTIe)

321 312 What's the incentive to get vaccinated?
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 10:45 AM (5HBd1)

That's the creepy part. The incentive is that you will be allowed to hold a job, go out for dinner, attend school, get your hair cut, obtain medical care, borrow money, participate in organizations, visit your grandparents, etc......

As long as you wear a mask inside !

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:51 AM (Zmnko)

322 Brought forward from below because tangentially related, re: multiple entities who have PCR tests in use under EUA from the FDA:

Here's the kicker. The FDA had each of 195 entities run tests on samples containing differing known levels of killed virus to see what Level of Detection would result in a positive test (in other words how sensitive is that particular test was). The smaller the number, the more sensitive the test. The 195 different tests ranged from 180 NADU/ml to 600,000 NADU/ml. This is a 3000 fold difference between the most and least sensitive tests, with everything in between among the 195.

Yet these tests, when run on on actual patients are lumped together as a "positive PCR test".

(NOTE: In this FDA series no info is given regarding cycle thresholds.)

Posted by: Muldoon at July 27, 2021 10:51 AM (Xwt96)

323 How are they gonna announce mask mandates without Trump to blame?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 27, 2021 10:51 AM (kTF2Z)

324 320 So how many in DC got infected with the Wuhan Flu by the Texas Fleabaggers?
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:50 AM (htTIe)

Probably not enough

Posted by: CN at July 27, 2021 10:51 AM (ONvIw)

325 When they get around to revising the statistics on this, you will learn that it was much less lethal than they said.

And I believe that people should be responsible for their own health. We knew early on that vitamin D would make it less likely that you'd catch it and make it less deadly if you did get sick. But they didn't talk to the public about taking vitamin D. They didn't talk about how children were very unlikely to get it and didn't spread it. We knew all of it early last year. I went and read medical reports. I posted links to Dr John Campbell's You Tube videos. I don't always agree with him, but he did post links to actual medical info and that was very helpful.

I expect our medical professionals to be honest about risks and treatment for a disease. I don't want them pimping for Big Pharma on the world stage. And I don't want the CDC or WHO running the government. They seriously overstepped.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 10:52 AM (5HBd1)

326 The incentive is that you will be allowed to hold a job, go out for
dinner, attend school, get your hair cut, obtain medical care, borrow
money, participate in organizations, visit your grandparents

Note that "you will be protected from the Chinese cooties" is not on that list. Says all I need to know.

Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2021 10:52 AM (u+Y3T)

327 WARP SPEED SUCKERS.

Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE DONALD TRUMP at July 27, 2021 10:52 AM (Pzzpr)

328 So how many in DC got infected with the Wuhan Flu by the Texas Fleabaggers?
Posted by: Anna Puma

***

I'm wondering about quarantine. We know Karmella was involved for one.

Was ANYONE required to quarantine or contact trace?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - How are doctors confirming you have the delta variant, and are they even testing? at July 27, 2021 10:52 AM (+blh7)

329 Masks are back? Did the science change?

Posted by: Pagan Min at July 27, 2021 10:52 AM (VJsqe)

330 I have not been personally attacked here although I
have elsewhere.

Posted by: Pseudonic at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (vlCHn)

You're fat...and that shirt? Who chooses your clothes? Your dog?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2021 10:52 AM (Q9lwr)

331 mRNA therapy is 30 years old.

Bing it.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 27, 2021 10:45 AM (hTPJO)

=============
Not as applied to vaccines.
https://tinyurl.com/6r3vw4w7

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 27, 2021 10:53 AM (81ubp)

332 FDA approval does mean strong vetting. Lack of FDA approval doesn't imply anything's particularly wrong with a medicine though. They just take forever. It's like a ten-year process and the medicine doesn't change.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 27, 2021 10:42 AM (z5Vrg)

In 2014, the drug development process took 12-14 years and an average cost of $2.6bn per compound. Only 1 out of 10 compounds made it through the process, which means a company needs to spend almost $30bn before they get a successful-to-market drug. The kicker is that the patent on that drug starts when they submit and get approval for the New Drug Application - aka before the trials take place.

I can't tell you how many times I've gotten the all caps: "HALT ALL WORK ON PROJECT XXXXX" email from executive leadership because - while there's still time left on the patent, there's not enough to recoup the costs of development and the bean counters are cutting their losses. Other orgs such as LLS and JDF will step in and "adopt" these compounds that show promise to get it to market - but sadly not enough of them.

Posted by: Defenestratus at July 27, 2021 10:53 AM (qiiRE)

333 Welp, I wonder if Costco will already have their face diaper mandate back in place by this afternoon.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at July 27, 2021 10:53 AM (DTX3h)

334 It's a damn shame someone skilled in the art of persuasion can't take Frum out-side and convince him of the many errors in his "thinking."

Posted by: sf at July 27, 2021 10:53 AM (fmJQu)

335 Making the vaccinated wear masks again is a ploy to make vaccinated people turn on the un vaxed... In my opinion

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:53 AM (Zmnko)

336 "So I see the WH is gonna announce today at 3 that vaccinated "folks" need to wear masks.... LOL.. That really instills confidence in the vaccine doesn't it."

Bonus points if they let Biden fumble through the announcement.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:53 AM (49Exr)

337 So, if the data that the public is allowed to see is highly suspect, muddled and tainted, what is the likelihood that the data we are not allowed to see is somehow MORE clarifying?

Posted by: Muldoon at July 27, 2021 10:54 AM (Xwt96)

338 312 What's the incentive to get vaccinated?
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 10:45 AM (5HBd1)

That's the creepy part. The incentive is that you will be allowed to hold a job, go out for dinner, attend school, get your hair cut, obtain medical care, borrow money, participate in organizations, visit your grandparents, etc......
Posted by: Colorado at July 27, 2021 10:49 AM (Hrwnm)

Saw a billboard outside of Columbia, SC the other day that said: The Covid vaccine is a shot of hope.

What? The hope was that we'd have an effective vaccine. The vaccine is supposedly the bringer of life, allowing us to live again. We need to hope on top of hope? Fucking hell, is there anyone out there whose parents weren't brother and sister?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at July 27, 2021 10:54 AM (KbCG3)

339 330 I have not been personally attacked here although I
have elsewhere.

Posted by: Pseudonic at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (vlCHn)

You're fat...and that shirt? Who chooses your clothes? Your dog?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2021 10:52 AM (Q9lwr)

He has ace's fashion sense, garrett's raw heterosexuality, and CBD's taste in art.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 27, 2021 10:54 AM (z5Vrg)

340 Bonus points if they let Biden fumble through the announcement.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:53 AM (49Exr)

Wearing 5 masks

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:54 AM (Zmnko)

341 A Chinese ex-coworker from my lab days reports that she really can't go back to China to visit her elderly parents, because there's a two-stage process of quarantine, and she'd be there a month before she could see them. The point is that this doesn't sound like a country that has things under control, despite the fact that we never hear about it here.
Posted by: pep at July 27, 2021 10:47 AM (ZsR3z)

My longstanding theory is that lifestyle and environmental factors in China, combined with local government incompetence and deception, led to the virus doing more damage there than elsewhere. Western intelligence agencies picked up on what was going on, which didn't match what the Chinese were saying publicly, and Western leaders freaked out thinking that a bioweapon had gotten loose. By the time we had more information the damage had already been done, as too much panic had been spread throughout the west, and too many in the US saw it as a way to get Orangemanbad.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at July 27, 2021 10:54 AM (jOcSX)

342 I have not been personally attacked here although I
have elsewhere.

Posted by: Pseudonic at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (vlCHn)

You're fat...and that shirt? Who chooses your clothes? Your dog?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

It's the ~~Zeitgeist~~ Sitegeist!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 27, 2021 10:54 AM (d9FiS)

343 Do how do they know who is unvaxxed short of vaccine passports, and will Americans meekly go along with that idea?

Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2021 10:54 AM (u+Y3T)

344 If you are wearing a mask and can smell my fart, your mask is less than useless.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 27, 2021 10:49 AM (hTPJO)

The sulfur compounds that stink in flatus are molecule size...not virus size. That's several orders of magnitude.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2021 10:55 AM (Q9lwr)

345 Yet these tests, when run on on actual patients are lumped together as a "positive PCR test".

(NOTE: In this FDA series no info is given regarding cycle thresholds.)
Posted by: Muldoon at July 27, 2021 10:51 AM (Xwt96)
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I gave up on the tests when Elon Musk got tested, 4 times, two negative, two positive, I believe it was.

And then it was decided Elon was positive, because 2 out of 4 tests said so.

I'm pretty sure a test that's no better than a coil flip is no test at all.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 27, 2021 10:55 AM (2SdPm)

346 Speaking of pro-vaxx bots, Adam Baldwin has found a ton (or a site that found a ton):

https://twitter.com/AdamBaldwin/status/
1420023333400285192

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 27, 2021 10:55 AM (UHVv4)

347 I have not been personally attacked here although I
have elsewhere.

Posted by: Pseudonic at July 27, 2021 10:44 AM (vlCHn)

You're as dense as manure and half as useful.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 27, 2021 10:55 AM (Y5qcH)

348 BabylonBee: To Defeat Delta Variant, Experts Recommend Doing All The Things That Didn't Work The First Time

Posted by: SMOD at July 27, 2021 10:55 AM (RHGPo)

349 Other orgs such as LLS and JDF will step in and "adopt" these compounds that show promise to get it to market - but sadly not enough of them.
Posted by: Defenestratus at July 27, 2021 10:53 AM (qiiRE)

LLS did great work with mylotarg

Posted by: CN at July 27, 2021 10:55 AM (ONvIw)

350 Frum loudly declares the position of his leftist masters:

"We are actually evil people who hate their fellow Americans and are vindictively trying to hurt the rest of you."

It's not hard when you realize every accusation is a projection.

Posted by: squid_hunt at July 27, 2021 10:55 AM (B0mGw)

351
Sean Davis@seanmdav

LOL
Adam Kinzinger tears up as he speaks for the first time on the select committee

Raheem J. Kassam@RaheemKassam

Is there really a Capitol Hill Police Officer crying about hurty words live on national television right now?

F*cking whole world is laughing at this shit.

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (2o90I)

352 "You've got to be kidding - RENEWING the baseless and indefensible mask nonsense?"

Catch up. March has been designated as Mask Awareness Month.

Forever.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (49Exr)

353 The problem for me, and I am old enough to be at risk, is that I am not sick. I've had no exposure to it. I've been on house arrest for a year and a half since I can't wear a mask. I was working from home before this. Why should I take a vaccine that will make me sick? At the least, I'm sick a couple of days from it. At the worst, it causes heart problems. All for something that I am unlikely to be exposed to.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (5HBd1)

354 The VA knows I am refusing their Wuhan Flu shots. Every interaction they ask if I want it. Today being no exception. Made a joke since I work at Wal-Mart if I haven't caught it it than I am lucky.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (htTIe)

355 Good morning, CBD, good morning, Horde,

That HAWK missile would never reach the moon in 16 seconds. The Nazis on the dark side would stop it on the launch pad!

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (5SuyB)

356 So, if the data that the public is allowed to see is highly suspect, muddled and tainted, what is the likelihood that the data we are not allowed to see is somehow MORE clarifying?
Posted by: Muldoon at July 27, 2021 10:54 AM (Xwt96)
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Yep.

I do not believe there is anything approaching accurate data out there when it comes to COVID.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (2SdPm)

357 If you are wearing a mask and can smell my fart, your mask is less than useless.
--------------------
And being able to catch it from farts is why doctors call it "spreading"!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (UHVv4)

358 Good morning, Horde. Who are we mad at today? Besides that overrated Van Gough?

Fucking impressionists...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (V6f9+)

359 351 Is there really a Capitol Hill Police Officer crying about hurty words live on national television right now?

F*cking whole world is laughing at this shit.
Posted by: artisanal ette at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (2o90I)

========

People are paying attention?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (LvTSG)

360 If the CDC demands everyone mask up again, I'm sure this will make Biden's approval numbers-which are already falling by quite a bit-just shoot on up. Shoot on up to the stratosphere, I tell you!. /s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (k39e/)

361 BabylonBee: "To Defeat Delta Variant, Experts Recommend Doing All The Things That Didn't Work The First Time"

What if I turn it off and back on?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:57 AM (49Exr)

362
Is there really a Capitol Hill Police Officer crying about hurty words live on national television right now?

F*cking whole world is laughing at this shit.
Posted by: artisanal ette at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (2o90I)

They have their specially "picked" witnesses and edited videos at the ready.. Trump should be frog marched to the gallows by evening....

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:57 AM (Zmnko)

363 been 6 days since my wuflu diagnoses and still no symptoms

I went to my doctor asking for an antibody (?) test and they started with a covid test that came back positive.

Why would I get a experimental vaccine for something that hasn't hurt me?

Posted by: DanMan at July 27, 2021 10:57 AM (8uzBS)

364 People are paying attention?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (LvTSG)

BLM never used a harsh word against the police!!!!!!!

Posted by: CN at July 27, 2021 10:57 AM (ONvIw)

365 It's so cute whenever children first learn to curse.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 27, 2021 10:58 AM (ptq0O)

366 People are paying attention?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (LvTSG)
++++
You can be sure our enemies are.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:58 AM (3p5uk)

367 Adam Kinzinger tears up as he speaks for the first time on the select committee

-
~~Crocodile~~ Kangaroo tears.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 27, 2021 10:58 AM (d9FiS)

368 BLM never used a harsh word against the police!!!!!!!
Posted by: CN at July 27, 2021 10:57 AM (ONvIw)

It wasn't bastard with a hard-"R"...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2021 10:58 AM (/EuRN)

369 358 Good morning, Horde. Who are we mad at today? Besides that overrated Van Gough?

Fucking impressionists...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (V6f9+)

Post Impressionist

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:58 AM (Zmnko)

370
The sulfur compounds that stink in flatus are molecule size...not virus size. That's several orders of magnitude.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2021 10:55 AM (Q9lwr)

Yer both a couple of shrimps.

Posted by: Face Sized Spider at July 27, 2021 10:59 AM (n+4am)

371 I expect our medical professionals to be honest about risks and treatment for a disease. I don't want them pimping for Big Pharma on the world stage.

I represented pharma companies for a decade. Doctors are routinely deposed in pharma cases. My impression was that a good many doctors prescribe medicine without having a good sense of the risk-benefit in general let alone with respect to specific patients. A significant percentage effectively did whatever their cutie pie pharma reps told them was reasonable back when pharma companies were openly buying the love of physicians. (There's long since been a crackdown on much of that kinda thing.) 1/2

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 27, 2021 10:59 AM (QU5/8)

372 You can be sure our enemies are.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 10:58 AM (3p5uk)
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China is paying the current administration to pants itself for the whole world to see.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 27, 2021 10:59 AM (2SdPm)

373 367 Adam Kinzinger tears up as he speaks for the first time on the select committee

-
~~Crocodile~~ ~~Kangaroo~~ tears.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at July 27, 2021 10:58 AM (d9FiS)

Dildo-rhinoceros tears

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2021 10:59 AM (/EuRN)

374 I gave up on the tests when Elon Musk got tested, 4 times, two negative, two positive, I believe it was.

And then it was decided Elon was positive, because 2 out of 4 tests said so.

I'm pretty sure a test that's no better than a coil flip is no test at all.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 27, 2021 10:55 AM

I got tested three times and never got a positive result.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 27, 2021 10:59 AM (JUOKG)

375 If not taking the Biden poison pisses off Frum , then that is more reason not to take it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 27, 2021 10:59 AM (jAjO8)

376 Right now, "gender dysphoria" has a higher mortality rate then covid, at least in the younger age groups.

And they are pushing that shit on kids.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 27, 2021 10:59 AM (Y5qcH)

377 "Experts list many reasons for the vaccine slump, but one big reason stands out: vaccine resistance among conservative, evangelical, and rural Americans. Pro-Trump America has decided that vaccine refusal is a statement of identity and a test of loyalty."

He's full of shit - get a look at this Chart Steven Hayward posted:

https://bit.ly/3BPvIHh

It's the *non-religious* who have the lowest rate of vaccination.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at July 27, 2021 10:59 AM (fpng3)

378 Why would I get a experimental vaccine for something that hasn't hurt me?
Posted by: DanMan at July 27, 2021 10:57 AM (8uzBS)

To me it's like getting a vax for Chicken Pox, which I had a kid. Oddly I was never offered the varicella shot, but having had fauciflu has not prevented me from being harassed about this shot.

Posted by: CN at July 27, 2021 11:00 AM (ONvIw)

379 Jordan Hayes: 33-year-old New York man calls the non-vaccinated "idiots" and "morons," dead 14 weeks after COVID-19 "vaccine"

there were a lot of these
mocked us then died
social media faded away

thecovidblog.com
1000covidstories.com
www.c19vaxreactions.com

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 27, 2021 11:00 AM (2o90I)

380 What's the incentive to get vaccinated?
____________

It's supposed to make your symptoms less serious when you do get the virus, although that doesn't actually seem to be the case in real life with lots of people who have been fully vaccinated and still get very ill or die from the virus.

It's basically kind of a crap shoot. You may get the vaccine and still get sick and die from the virus. You may get the vaccine and be perfectly fine and not get the virus. You may get the vaccine and get the virus, but not get very sick. You may get the vaccine and have some sort of terrible reaction and die within 30 days. You may get the vaccine and be fine for years, and then have some unexpected complications from it decades from now.

We just don't know. That's why it needs to be an individual choice.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 27, 2021 11:00 AM (k4dH2)

381 There will be many states that refuse vaccine Passports and, thus time, mask mandates. There is how the United States disintegrates with a wimper.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at July 27, 2021 11:00 AM (cpLq8)

382 I represented pharma companies for a decade. Doctors are routinely deposed in pharma cases. My impression was that a good many doctors prescribe medicine without having a good sense of the risk-benefit in general let alone with respect to specific patients. A significant percentage effectively did whatever their cutie pie pharma reps told them was reasonable back when pharma companies were openly buying the love of physicians. (There's long since been a crackdown on much of that kinda thing.) 1/2
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 27, 2021 10:59 AM (QU5/

Risk/benefit is a math thing and doctors aren't math people. Having many relatives who are doctors I can say there are too many who buy into their own PR.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at July 27, 2021 11:00 AM (z5Vrg)

383 Bonus points if they let Biden fumble through the announcement.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 10:53 AM (49Exr)

Wearing 5 masks
Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:54 AM (Zmnko)

I hope they repeat that scene where all the reporters remove their masks once they think the cameras are off. That was the most informative part of the press conference.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 11:00 AM (49Exr)

384 They are much more interested in the future economic and social health of America, and how to prevent its destruction by the progressives for whom David Frum is shilling.

of whom David Frum is one.

Frum is very French-like here, thought without the overt Christian bashing.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at July 27, 2021 11:01 AM (yQpMk)

385 I want to make it clear - the ONLY reason I'm not getting the vaccine is because F@#& YOU, I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME.

Posted by: Andy Stern at July 27, 2021 11:01 AM (/5Vx3)

386 @363

COVID, a virus so deadly that the vast majority of the people who "have it" don't even know they have it.

I used to get grim amusement watching the lines stretch for a block outside of the LabQuest Diagnostic and Testing center where I live.

It was funny, really funny watching people standing for hours to get tested.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 27, 2021 11:01 AM (eq2Rd)

387 BLM never used a harsh word against the police!!!!!!!
Posted by: CN at July 27, 2021 10:57 AM (ONvIw

Mark Simone, guy on the WOR 710 radio says "Some Capitol policeperson said "They tried to take my baton!!" and Simone noted sarcastically, "Well, gee I guess that never happened in any of BLM's peaceful protests."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 27, 2021 11:01 AM (k39e/)

388 Looks like hearing in the media's side hoax are going on. Time for nap.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at July 27, 2021 11:01 AM (buTO7)

389 378 Why would I get a experimental vaccine for something that hasn't hurt me?
Posted by: DanMan at July 27, 2021 10:57 AM (8uzBS)

Daughter and Family got it a month or so ago, and when she returned to work they made her mask up and strongly "suggested" she get vaccinated... All in office are already vaccinated.. She said no and after a bit they relented.. Why should she get vaccinated against something she already had?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 11:02 AM (Zmnko)

390 365 It's so cute whenever children first learn to curse.
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 27, 2021 10:58 AM (ptq0O)

Shut up you poopy head!

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 27, 2021 11:02 AM (okGHj)

391 Not as applied to vaccines.
https://tinyurl.com/6r3vw4w7
Posted by: Huck Follywood

History of mRNA Vaccines

No one woke up on a morning in December and decided that an mRNA vaccine was the way to go without any prior knowledge of the science and technology of mRNA vaccines. That knowledge goes back decades, and there have been many people working on this technology with many companies and governments spending large amounts of money on it. There have been clinical trials on mRNA vaccines not just for the coronavirus but for cancer and other ailments. Little by little, advances were made that brought us to the current vaccine.

https://bit.ly/3x7S9UG

Posted by: rickb223 at July 27, 2021 11:02 AM (hTPJO)

392 Anyone know how/where to find the stats of how many people in the US who are vaccinated got COVID again, of those how many had to be hospitalized, and how many died of COVID? Both before and after the Delta strain was detected in a US resident.

I bet those stats will be pretty interesting. If available.

Posted by: Gref at July 27, 2021 11:03 AM (AMIL/)

393 overrated Van Gough?

Fucking impressionists...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (V6f9+)

Post Impressionist
Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:58 AM (Zmnko)

I'm painting sloppily, with a broad brush. Like him.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 27, 2021 11:03 AM (V6f9+)

394 NeverTrump in a nutshell

Phase 1 - I enjoy writing about my conservative ideas.
Phase 2 - someone pays me to write about my conservative ideas.
Phase 3 - someone pays me to write. I want him to continue paying me.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 27, 2021 11:03 AM (E+OcO)

395 If read Frum's book on working in the George Bush White House you will learn how skewed his world view is.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 27, 2021 11:03 AM (htTIe)

396 weird

A Louisiana woman, 33, fully vaccinated, dies almost overnight of #Covid. Particularly striking: she didn't think she had it because she didn't have classic symptoms.

Also striking: the state health department is being somewhat more honest about the number of vaccinated deaths.

She didn't think she had it because she could still smell and taste.

https://tinyurl.com/epn685n

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 27, 2021 11:03 AM (2o90I)

397 Hey, did any fags win something in the Olympics?

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 27, 2021 11:03 AM (/MaDp)

398 No vax for me.

I listened to Big Daddy From Cincinnati.

He knows what is needed.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 27, 2021 11:03 AM (waNwk)

399 Post Impressionist
Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:58 AM (Zmnko)

I'm painting sloppily, with a broad brush. Like him.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 27, 2021 11:03 AM (V6f9+)

LOL... He was never one of my favorites.. My "degree" for what it's worth is in Art studio

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 11:04 AM (Zmnko)

400 It's the Oprah-fication of infectious diseases.

"YOU get a COVID!"

"And YOU get a COVID!!"

"And You...and YOU...and YOU get a COVID!"

"That's right! EVERYBODY gets a COVID!"

"And now our next guest, Doctor Anthony Fauci!"

Posted by: Muldoon at July 27, 2021 11:04 AM (Xwt96)

401 We just don't know. That's why it needs to be an individual choice.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 27, 2021 11:00 AM (k4dH2)

We are free human beings. THAT'S why it should be an individual choice.

Lord Almighty.

Posted by: Andy Stern at July 27, 2021 11:04 AM (/5Vx3)

402 there must be diamond producing pressure on the FDA at the moment to approve the vax

Posted by: REDACTED at July 27, 2021 11:04 AM (YK4Qh)

403 My favorite example is personal. I went to the emergency room once. Doc decided I other had a bowel obstruction or appendicitis. Gave me Reglan, which can be used to get the bowels moving, while they waited for bloodwork to come back. What is Reglan contraindicated for: bowel obstructions (meaning a doctor should never prescribe it when a bowel obstruction is a possibility). Which I didn't know at the time. So it was basically like an episode of House: take this, if it doesn't damn near kill you, we can rule out bowel obstruction. 2/2

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 27, 2021 11:04 AM (QU5/8)

404 I'm not getting the vaccine because virtually everything the government has said about Covid and the vaccine are lies.

I know I'm not alone in this. I think many people feel as I do.

Why is it that media reports ignore this fact?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 27, 2021 11:05 AM (sWM8x)

405 Hey, did any fags win something in the Olympics?
Posted by: Puddin Head at July 27, 2021 11:03 AM (/MaDp)

I'm the front runner for Gold in the 1000m Not Giving A Fuck

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 27, 2021 11:05 AM (/EuRN)

406 People are paying attention?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 10:56 AM (LvTSG)

Raheem seems to be.

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 27, 2021 11:06 AM (2o90I)

407 He was never one of my favorites.. My "degree" for what it's worth is in Art studio
Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 11:04 AM (Zmnko)

Oh, I have no training, but I love clean art that looks like the real world, only better.
Anything that looks like I left my glasses at home is hard for me to enjoy, even if there's skill and craft at work (ie pointillism)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 27, 2021 11:06 AM (V6f9+)

408 Do how do they know who is unvaxxed short of vaccine passports, and will Americans meekly go along with that idea?
Posted by: Mookie at July 27, 2021 10:54 AM (u+Y3T)

In short, yes.
Longer: Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses...

Posted by: OneEyedJack at July 27, 2021 11:06 AM (z79tQ)

409 Two weeks to fatten the lurve! Bereave the seance!

Posted by: Preznit Ruprect the Monkeyboy at July 27, 2021 11:06 AM (U9nm1)

410 The guy who writes the twitter account @politicalmath is very numerate and is pro-vaccine. He has also blown straight out of the water the bromide that "conservative, evangelical, and rural Americans" are the bulwark (heh) of the vaccine-resistant and vaccine-hesitant.

Posted by: m at July 27, 2021 11:07 AM (RYc1G)

411 Heh, back to down 300 on NASDAQ. What a wonderful world it is to have the Fed Meeting, Earnings coming out, and Biden announcing more lockdown. Do you think the guys in Manhattan were given a tip? How much did they pay the Big Guy for this set up?

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 27, 2021 11:07 AM (/MaDp)

412 CDC now says the vaxxed have to wear masks again, lol.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 27, 2021 11:07 AM (jAjO8)

413 CDC is recommending all K-12 wear masks regardless of vaccination status

F Them If DeWine caves and he will, he needs to removed from office

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 27, 2021 11:07 AM (dKiJG)

414 Your mask protects you from both farts AND covid!!! Stay safe.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at July 27, 2021 11:07 AM (TKmok)

415 So nothing to do with vaxes is but isn't the congress supposed to go on VayCa on Aug. 1st? If so are the Kangaroo courters staying on to do Impeachment 3 the Threequel?

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 11:07 AM (Zmnko)

416 Dammit CBD, ya rotten bastidge! Every time I swear that I'm done mentally masturbating over this mess (the whole gamut of the disease and the responses to it), you manage to draw me back in. I hate you!!!!!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 27, 2021 11:07 AM (Xwt96)

417 Same reason so many normies in flyover red states are freaking out claiming that masks are too porous to stop a virus, yet so constrictive that they're cutting off O2.

I take ivermectin, wear a mask, and will be getting a vaccine today. Per an excellent interview with Dr Varon by Dr Mobeen.

Posted by: WhyBanned at July 27, 2021 11:07 AM (YkawN)

418 Little by little, advances were made that brought us to the current vaccine.

Posted by: rickb223 at July 27, 2021 11:02 AM (hTPJO)

That's how scientific inquiry works. I don't see the issue with mRNA vaccines being based on research that began in the 1950s with the structure of DNA, and simply expanded wherever researchers saw an interesting opportunity or question.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2021 11:08 AM (Q9lwr)

419 My cousin had two Modern shots with no issues at all. He's on dialysis and has a stent in his shoulder that goes to his heart. He masks up when he has dialysis and when he goes shopping. And that's fine. We've talked about it and I respect his point of view. But he doesn't demand that I get vaccinated. That's what is worrisome here. People I don't know keep demanding I do what they want, with no explanation as to why I should listen to them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 11:08 AM (5HBd1)

420 Simone noted sarcastically, "Well, gee I guess that never happened in any of BLM's peaceful protests."
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 27, 2021 11:01 AM (k39e/)

And the "gentle giant" never tried to go for the officer's gun/s

Posted by: CN at July 27, 2021 11:08 AM (ONvIw)

421 Was there a hot babe doctor with a great ass treating you, bear with asymmetrical balls?? [Then not House!]

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 27, 2021 11:08 AM (UHVv4)

422 you manage to draw me back in. I hate you!!!!!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 27, 2021 11:07 AM (Xwt96)

I've warned you time and time again: Ignore me!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2021 11:08 AM (Q9lwr)

423 She didn't think she had it because she could still smell and taste.

I had it and only had three symptoms: fever, chills and cough.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 11:08 AM (kFA7a)

424 411

Eh. Last week we had a crash too. That lasted about 5 minutes. This is how markets work, up 2% down 3% up 4%. Why people still freak out over any one day is a mystery to me.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (jAjO8)

425 There are people talking shit that everyone should vax--who haven't vaxxed themselves and there are people fighting mandatory jabs who have gotten the vaxx themselves.

It take all kinds I guess

Posted by: JoeF. at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (mR6Gs)

426 CDC is recommending all K-12 wear masks regardless of vaccination status

F Them If DeWine caves and he will, he needs to removed from office
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at July 27, 2021 11:07 AM (dKiJG)

Those poor teachers need to be protected! Maybe triple their salary, too!!! /s

Posted by: CN at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (ONvIw)

427 I'm amused at the mayors of big blue cities who are clamoring to hire more cops. Who in their right mind would sign up to be a cop in one of those cities where the pols hang you out to dry at the first sign of a mob?

Posted by: CDR M (Retired) at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (cqZXM)

428 "Life could return nearly to normal"

It fuckin' wouldn't, though, because that would not be allowed. Does he know that, and he's gaslighting, or is he just stupid?

Posted by: hogmartin at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (ghoDT)

429 The masks do restrict O2 intake. It can be easily proven. And the masks come in boxes that say that they don't protect against Covid.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (5HBd1)

430 I take ivermectin, wear a mask, and will be getting a vaccine today.

Does your shadow scare you?

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (TKmok)

431 I am starting to think that UPS is the definition of insanity. Every time I have a package coming from UPS, they estimate delivery at 13:30-15:30 local time. Then, between 12:00 and 13:30, the revise the estimated time to 19:00 local time. Then, between 17:30 and 18:30, the package is delivered.

This happens 100% of the time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (3p5uk)

432 I've warned you time and time again: Ignore me!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2021 11:08 AM (Q9lwr)

Okay, now I'm really confused.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at July 27, 2021 11:10 AM (AiZBA)

433 Instead of prosecuting the idiot Fauci's parsing of words in congressional testimony, or sleuthing the backward-looking issue of the virus' origins, could Rand Paul or - hmmm, amazing how almost no other names come to mind - instead go nutz on the mask idiocy? You know, something actually concrete and relevant to actual daily life, now?

Is it just the smallness and cowardice of the political class (oh no brother Bluto, we might get in trouble with an ignorant public) that has them remaining mum on the most easily debunked guidance of them all?

Posted by: rhomboid (OTzUX) at July 27, 2021 11:10 AM (OTzUX)

434 Is there another level of hotness above pharma rep hot? I mean in the observable universe.

Posted by: klaftern at July 27, 2021 11:10 AM (r4sI4)

435 402 Guaranteed. Thankfully, they've freed up their valuable time by delegating the dance videos to doctors and nurses in the hospitals.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 27, 2021 11:10 AM (5SuyB)

436 Posted by: rickb223 at July 27, 2021 11:02 AM (hTPJO)

=============
The link tells the story of how the scientists at the predecessor research project struggled to adapt mRNA concepts to vaccines, and became Moderna along the way (Faux-xi was a director at one point, I believe).

By the way, for full disclosure, this same venture firm has a portfolio company trying to turn red blood cells into delivery mechanisms for cancer drugs, called Rubius Therapeutics, reducing toxicity to the rest of the body and increasing effectiveness. I own a little stock in it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at July 27, 2021 11:10 AM (81ubp)

437 Was there a hot babe doctor with a great ass treating you, bear with asymmetrical balls?? [Then not House!]

No hot doctors. Just an average-looking nurse with a bedside manner suggesting she would have been happier administering lethal injections.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 27, 2021 11:10 AM (QU5/8)

438 389 Daughter and Family got it a month or so ago, and when she returned
to work they made her mask up and strongly "suggested" she get
vaccinated... All in office are already vaccinated.. She said no and
after a bit they relented.. Why should she get vaccinated against
something she already had?
indeed. she should have just started referring to covid as "the organic free-range vaccine". it's also gluten-free.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at July 27, 2021 11:11 AM (v3pYe)

439 412 CDC now says the vaxxed have to wear masks again, lol.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 27, 2021 11:07 AM (jAjO

must put the stars back on, suckers

Posted by: REDACTED at July 27, 2021 11:11 AM (YK4Qh)

440 You know what the symptoms of the Delta are?

Sniffles
Cough
Runny Nose
loss of sense of taste and smell

Sounds remarkably like a cold.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 11:11 AM (5HBd1)

441 427 I'm amused at the mayors of big blue cities who are clamoring to hire more cops. Who in their right mind would sign up to be a cop in one of those cities where the pols hang you out to dry at the first sign of a mob?
Posted by: CDR M (Retired) at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (cqZXM)

=========

I'm convinced that Chauvin was a loyal progressive with a well known penchant for pushing whatever the leftist narrative of the day is, and that got all memory holed the second the Floyd video went viral. He was a necessary offering to the mob.

The kind of person who signs up to be a cop is the kind of person too dumb to make that connection.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, hunting lycans with Kate Beckinsale at July 27, 2021 11:11 AM (LvTSG)

442 F Them If DeWine caves and he will, he needs to removed from office

DeWine has also said that 99% of the new cases of COVID are in the unvaxxed. I'm sorry, but I don't believe that.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 11:11 AM (kFA7a)

443 429 The masks do restrict O2 intake. It can be easily proven. And the masks come in boxes that say that they don't protect against Covid.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (5HBd1)

It's kabuki and control and always was.

Posted by: CN at July 27, 2021 11:11 AM (ONvIw)

444 People, especially older people are still stuck in a mindset where 300 points is a huge loss. When Nasdaq was at 5k that was true. When Nasdaq is at 15k, it is not. Same with 1000 point loss on the Dow. At todays level tht is 3%. Not the end of the world. But most are still programmed to react as they did in the 90s with the same raw number daily changes.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 27, 2021 11:11 AM (jAjO8)

445 I am starting to think that UPS is the definition of insanity. Every time I have a package coming from UPS, they estimate delivery at 13:30-15:30 local time. Then, between 12:00 and 13:30, the revise the estimated time to 19:00 local time. Then, between 17:30 and 18:30, the package is delivered.

This happens 100% of the time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (3p5uk)
-------------

Umm, not to put to fine a point on it, but, if it happens 100% of the time, then, it's actually the very model of consistency.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 27, 2021 11:11 AM (2SdPm)

446 Posted by: JoeF. at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (mR6Gs)

Assuming the vaccines have some impact in reducing the spread of the disease, it makes sense to encourage others to take the shot while refusing it for yourself. You get the benefit of their serving as the guinea pigs. "Come on and take a Free Ride."

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at July 27, 2021 11:11 AM (vN+oL)

447 Who in their right mind would sign up to be a cop in
one of those cities where the pols hang you out to dry at the first
sign of a mob?

Posted by: CDR M (Retired) at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (cqZXM)

That is a good question, and we will be feeling the effects of this in a few years. My guess is that power-mad assholes will be over-represented, as will drones who just want a paycheck and see policing as an easy way to a pension.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2021 11:12 AM (Q9lwr)

448 Is there another level of hotness above pharma rep hot? I mean in the observable universe.
Posted by: klaftern at July 27, 2021 11:10 AM (r4sI4)

Ring girls
Yoga instructors
Mid-tier strippers

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 27, 2021 11:12 AM (V6f9+)

449 There's a big hill in Rockaway, NJ called "Graffiti Cliffs" where for years people have sprayed slogans and such.
Well someone sprayed MAGA a year or two ago, and wouldn't you know? Some group is going to undertake the dangerous job of...removing it

Can't have "Maga"

Posted by: JoeF. at July 27, 2021 11:12 AM (mR6Gs)

450 I read somewhere that since the JEF began destroying the medical community, and pushing more and more doctors under the umbrella of larger corporations, that is ONE of the reasons why doctors are behaving they way they are right now re the vaccine. They are being told to or else. Many small practices have folded. It's all fear tactics.

Posted by: artisanal ette at July 27, 2021 11:12 AM (2o90I)

451 Did anyone ever figure out what Biden was saying when it sounded like he was talking about his rear end being wiped?

Posted by: m at July 27, 2021 11:12 AM (RYc1G)

452 @426

The Op and Scam continues, this is more than likely going to be the catalyst for a lot of unrest.

The teachers do not want to go back to school, with kids having to masks, parents are not going to want to send their kids to school, so it will be back to ZOOM School for kids, especially in blue shitholes.

I expect Murphy in NJ and Wolf in PA to make an announcement shortly after the CDC and The Meat Puppet make this official.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 27, 2021 11:12 AM (eq2Rd)

453 433 Instead of prosecuting the idiot Fauci's parsing of words in congressional testimony, or sleuthing the backward-looking issue of the virus' origins, could Rand Paul or - hmmm, amazing how almost no other names come to mind - instead go nutz on the mask idiocy? You know, something actually concrete and relevant to actual daily life, now?
__________

IIRC, Rand Paul already did that in one of the prior hearings.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at July 27, 2021 11:12 AM (k4dH2)

454 Nood Netflix losing subscribers

Posted by: hogmartin at July 27, 2021 11:13 AM (ghoDT)

455 Watching the Jan6 hearing. They definately did not send their best Capital Police Representatives. This is so scripted it's embarrassing.

Posted by: Stellastwocents at July 27, 2021 11:13 AM (cRbt7)

456 So, if the data that the public is allowed to see is highly suspect, muddled and tainted, what is the likelihood that the data we are not allowed to see is somehow MORE clarifying?
Posted by: Muldoon

Yes, you can get good results from muddled data--in most research dealing with human behavior, ratty data is a given. There are a variety of ways, think Freakonomics, that a good research design can give insight into a problem by redefining the question examined. BTW, a lot of applied statistical methods in applied fields came originally from medical research because that is where the grants were.

Posted by: whig at July 27, 2021 11:13 AM (pO7gM)

457 427

Criminals will be chomping at the bit to become cops. Gangs will have their own personal police force. The left has no idea what they have unleashed.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 27, 2021 11:13 AM (jAjO8)

458 Umm, not to put to fine a point on it, but, if it happens 100% of the time, then, it's actually the very model of consistency.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at July 27, 2021 11:11 AM (2SdPm)
++++
Oh, sure. I meant their initial estimates, that are always wrong, in exactly the same way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 11:14 AM (3p5uk)

459 258 Anyone watching the kangaroo court today? My blood pressure won't take it

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:40 AM (Zmnko)

I watched the first two minutes and switched off - my blood was boiling. The chairman is a guy I've never heard of before. Chair of some regular committee. A black gentleman of course. Pelosi had to reach pretty deep into the pool of black candidates to find this guy, who is not a crazy/scary one like Clyburn or Maxine Waters.

Schiff-for-brains must be inconsolable these days: Chairing this witch-hunt committee is right in his wheel-house, and he is a Pelosi Favorite...but he's a white guy. Ineligible due to the color of his skin. Too bad, you scumbag.

Posted by: Gref at July 27, 2021 11:14 AM (AMIL/)

460 Back in February, I went to bed with fever and chills and when I woke up the next morning, a Monday, I found I had no sense of taste or smell. My sister and I went immediately to be tested. She got her results back (negative) within 24 hours, but I didn't. Finally, on Friday, I called the state and was told that I had also tested negative, although I was still tired and still could not taste anything.

Last month, when I saw my primary doctor for my annual checkup, I told him about my illness - which was mild but lasted about 10 days - and he said, "It was covid. Your test results were wrong. I can't think of any other illness that causes loss of taste and the sense of smell. There have been a lot of false positives - and negatives."

And yet the "I Believe in Science" people act as if the state is incapable of screwing up or getting anything wrong. They thought the tests were infallible, now they think the vaccine is. Even conservatives I know have fallen for it. I know normally sensible conservatives who treat Fauci like the Word of God - they are boomers who are scared to death of the virus and consider getting sick to be some sort of injustice.

Posted by: Donna, now with 100% new and improved &&&&&&&&& at July 27, 2021 11:14 AM (HabA/)

461 I use to be a ring man. I wore my Zardoz outfit.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 27, 2021 11:14 AM (ptq0O)

462 I'm amused at the mayors of big blue cities who are clamoring to hire more cops. Who in their right mind would sign up to be a cop in one of those cities where the pols hang you out to dry at the first sign of a mob?
Posted by: CDR M (Retired) at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (cqZXM)

I'm honestly more worried about those not in their right mind who takes those jobs right now. Either they REALY want power and a gun or they're looking to be the 'new' police, the one that works as an arm of the DNC.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at July 27, 2021 11:15 AM (V6f9+)

463 Just an average-looking nurse with a bedside manner suggesting she would have been happier administering lethal injections.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 27, 2021 11:10 AM (QU5/

I had back surgery a few years ago, and the pre-op nurse was an attractive young woman with an absolutely spectacular backside (even in scrubs!). I was very happy!

Paging "Joe Mannix!"

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 27, 2021 11:15 AM (Q9lwr)

464 392 Anyone know how/where to find the stats of how many people in the US who are vaccinated got COVID again, of those how many had to be hospitalized, and how many died of COVID? Both before and after the Delta strain was detected in a US resident.

I bet those stats will be pretty interesting. If available.
Posted by: Gref at July 27, 2021 11:03 AM (AMIL/)

Dr John Campbell on YouTube does daily videos where he breaks down the data as it is released. Dr Mobeen Syed is great. I have a masters in biochem, bachelors in microbiology, and they are both excellent. Mobeen talks honestly about vaccine injury, interviews with Dr Varon and Dr Osgood are recent and excellent.

Posted by: WhyBanned at July 27, 2021 11:15 AM (YkawN)

465 Yes, m, Biden was actually talking about getting his ass wiped.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 27, 2021 11:15 AM (UHVv4)

466 "Life could return nearly to normal"

Sure. Once Big Pharma has 100% of all Amerikkkans [except illegals and muslims] on the Monthly Vaccine Injection Programs, 100% of all pregnant women are injected monthly and 100% of their unborn children are vaccinated monthly, well, sure, life could return to normal.

/monthly injections: because no one should get a really bad case of the flu. Or even a cold. But myocarditis from an injection is a necessary risk.

Posted by: Vyx at July 27, 2021 11:15 AM (b57kA)

467 457 Leftists intended that from day one.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 27, 2021 11:16 AM (5SuyB)

468 "If any of this were really
happening we would see videos everywhere even on youtube, but we don't.
That should tell everyone that it's all complete and utter bull$hit panic pron."

Indeed. File under "The case of the Fraud that didn't bark in the night."

Posted by: boxx culvert, waitin for the clampdown. at July 27, 2021 11:16 AM (a07g0)

469 "A Scold of Karens"

Ah that's perfect. Well done.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 11:17 AM (49Exr)

470 "vaccine resistance among conservative, evangelical, and rural Americans. " keep repeating the big lie David ...

Posted by: The Dark Lord at July 27, 2021 11:17 AM (z2bYo)

471
Eh. Last week we had a crash too. That lasted about 5 minutes. This is how markets work, up 2% down 3% up 4%. Why people still freak out over any one day is a mystery to me.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (jAjO

The freakouts come from day traders and fund churning managers who have market bets that are going the wrong direction on any given day.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 27, 2021 11:17 AM (n+4am)

472 He's a professional presidential butt wiper/reporter.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at July 27, 2021 11:17 AM (ptq0O)

473 465 Yes, m, Biden was actually talking about getting his ass wiped.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 27, 2021 11:15 AM (UHVv4)

I'm skeered to google it.

Posted by: m at July 27, 2021 11:18 AM (RYc1G)

474 466 +1, Vyx. Remember 15 days to flatten the curve?

The bad guys do. Then they laugh at us.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 27, 2021 11:18 AM (5SuyB)

475 Anyone watching the kangaroo court today? My blood pressure won't take it

Posted by: It's me donna at July 27, 2021 10:40 AM (Zmnko)

It will be the headline tomorrow in bold black type for all newspapers

Posted by: JoeF. at July 27, 2021 11:19 AM (mR6Gs)

476 "In my County the covid is less lethal than the seasonal flue. 109 died from covid out of 35,000 and our population includes some outliers which has increased the number of deaths being reported in my County that most other Counties do not have. We have both a Federal and a State VA nursing homes. The State VA facility gets people from all over NE Texas and the Federal VA home gets people from Texas, southern Oklahoma and Western Arkansas.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 27, 2021 10:42 AM (JUOKG)"

It depends on when it hit your area. Fatalities attributed to COVID in institutions in the 65 and up age group topped 60% in some areas in Feb-Apr 2020. Not 60% of the deaths, 60% of the residents and staff in those age groups, total. And there is no papering over that by claiming mis-attribution - the totals were an order of magnitude out of whack.

This is largely a result of poor surveillance due to the CDC's testing fuckups, suppression of effective treatments, poor infection control, and ventilator use. It wasn't just the NY/IL style nursing home stuffing either - there are few things more lethal than a doc that knows something that just isn't so.

Posted by: somedood at July 27, 2021 11:22 AM (IN1nj)

477 My husband has cancer and doesn't want the experimental vax, given everything else that is being pumped into his body. Family doc refused an ivermectin script, saying that it doesn't work and "they' don't want him to prescribe it. Didn't get a chance to ask who "they" are, seemed like that question ended our appointment.

Posted by: Inisfree at July 27, 2021 11:22 AM (JvFhS)

478 So is Biden gonna hand out masks on the border?

Posted by: Puddin Head at July 27, 2021 11:23 AM (/MaDp)

479 473 465 Yes, m, Biden was actually talking about getting his ass wiped.
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at July 27, 2021 11:15 AM (UHVv4)

I'm skeered to google it.
Posted by: m at July 27, 2021 11:18 AM (RYc1G)
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The really scary one is him asking 'where's mom?' is mom in the audience? He did that at the disabilities presentation/

Posted by: Braenyard at July 27, 2021 11:23 AM (YdNEG)

480 I've warned you time and time again: Ignore me!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

****

I think that's supposed to be "Hate me, revile me, despise me, curse me, beat me black and blue, but don't you dare ignore me!!!"

Posted by: Muldoon at July 27, 2021 11:24 AM (Xwt96)

481 "Renounce your White Privilege and get vaccinated"

LOL They actually thought that BS would fly?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 11:25 AM (49Exr)

482 My mom told me if I didn't stop mentally masturbating I would go blind. I'm going to go try to find my glasses. Later y'all.

Have fun storming the castle.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 27, 2021 11:28 AM (Xwt96)

483 A whole shit ton of people are going to be in for a rude awakening when they get the 'Rona despite having been vaccinated.

Posted by: Bert G at July 27, 2021 11:28 AM (UJh+r)

484 "Have fun storming the castle."

Leave the Holocaust Cloak!

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at July 27, 2021 11:28 AM (49Exr)

485 >>>This happens 100% of the time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 27, 2021 11:09 AM (3p5uk)
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Delivery is not math or science. The driver could easily have eighty stops in one day.

It's warehouse efficiency, traffic, equipment, weather conditions, and physical condition and experience of the driver.

All of those thing conspire against a timely delivery.

Posted by: Braenyard at July 27, 2021 11:32 AM (YdNEG)

486 329 Masks are back? Did the science change?
no. we have always been at war with maskasia.

Posted by: Dr. Fauci at July 27, 2021 11:34 AM (v3pYe)

487 477 My husband has cancer and doesn't want the experimental vax, given everything else that is being pumped into his body. Family doc refused an ivermectin script, saying that it doesn't work and "they' don't want him to prescribe it. Didn't get a chance to ask who "they" are, seemed like that question ended our appointment.
Posted by: Inisfree at July 27, 2021 11:22 AM (JvFhS)

Look up Dr Syed Haider or Dr Yo to get ivermectin for your husband. Or FLCCC has a list of other doctors who will take him as a telemedicine patient.

Posted by: WhyBanned at July 27, 2021 11:35 AM (YkawN)

488 "With most adults immunized, new and more infectious coronavirus variants would have nowhere to spread."

The Texas DNC contingent to DC got infected.

Which of these is true?
1) They were noble Dems who were surely vaccinated.
2) Vaccines work and you can't be infected with a vaccine.

No, you can't pick both Frum... Because if you're that stupid, you'd need help to remember to breathe.

Posted by: ertdfg at July 27, 2021 02:49 PM (I388C)

489 The bizarre thing about this is that no Trump person would ever take -- or not take -- a vaccine for political reasons...'cos we don't attach politics to everything. But we all know who does....It's the left that makes every decision based upon the politics of it.
Everybody that's a Trump supporter has been either "Yeah, I'm gonna get it" or "No, I'm not gettin' it" from the start.
But all the leftists I know --- have been pro-and-anti-mask...and pro-and-anti-vaccine....pro-and-anti-"patriotism"....based on whether Trump was in office or not. They were all "No way am I getting Trump's vaccine!" then.. and are all "If you don't get the vaccine, you're a bad orange person" now Seriously, who does that except leftists??

Does it even occur to them that if we were all influenced (as they are) by our political "heroes," we'd all be moving out of "the sticks" and into the big cities, like NYC and living in a high-raise like Trump?

Posted by: Reader at July 27, 2021 06:17 PM (x5dTf)

490 "Aren't variants inevitable in viruses? No matter what you do viruses mutate."

This is what I don't get. All my life, I heard "We'll never have a cure for the common cold because it endlessly mutates."
but now...the corona virus...is supposedly THIS mutation.alone..Which, first was never gonna mutate again, so all we had to do was get a vaccine...
And now, they're acting like each new variant is the last -- and worst -- one, and publicizing delta, gamma, and by now probably zeta.
Bet that's why China picked corona in the first place-- because duh, yeah, everyone knows the virus that causes colds is gonna mutate endlessly. So what is the point of getting any vaccine at all?? Or do they now have a one-size-fits-all vaccine and so we actually, finally DO have a "cure for the common cold"?

Posted by: Reader at July 27, 2021 08:19 PM (x5dTf)

491 "this pandemic could've been over by now, and certainly would've been by Labor Day"

Yes. Labor Day of 2020. If they had handled it properly - using the resources available and getting us to herd immunity so fast we wouldn't need the vaccines.

Instead we got Dem panic and Zero Risk and fear-mongering.

Posted by: GWB at July 28, 2021 11:22 AM (RVzi7)

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