Why Don’t We Do Our Own ‘Long March?’ [Joe Mannix]

This question is a common thread in our comments section here, from many corners. We all seem to understand what the Long March (or the Gramscian March, if you prefer) is, how it works, what it has done and where it has led us. The evidence of its success is manifest in our institutions, not a single one of which has survived and all of which have been subsumed by the neo-socialist ideology that shoots through them. The Long March was entirely successful and the war is now over. They won. In response to this, many wonder why we don’t try the same, to take those institutions back through equivalent subversion.

The answer to this, I think, is that it can’t work. I suspect that a lot of people viscerally – if not intellectually – understand that. By my reckoning (for whatever that’s worth, which ain’t much), there are two key reasons that a Long March of our own can’t work. One is time, and another is root philosophy. The time is easier to understand, and we’ll start there.

The Long March took around 50-70 years to pull off. It would probably take at least 20 to make serious gains against it, if that. (As an aside, conservatives have spent 20 years already just trying to subvert our home turf: the Republican Party. Starting with the “Tea Party” movement and culminating with Trumpism (or America First Nationalism), conservatives have been trying to apply pressure to and reform the Republican Party – which should be fertile ground – to no avail. If anything, actual conservatives – be they fiscal, regulatory, social or any other stripe – have less influence and power in the Republican Party today than they did 20 years ago.) The time is the killer. I’m no better at reading tea leaves than the next guy, but I don’t think we have 20 years to make a down payment on the future. At our current rate, we’ll be through the first round of slaughter and slave camps by then and into the initial regrouping post-purge. By the time 50-70 years pass – assuming we can be as effective as they were, and I don’t think we can – we’ll be in or through round two of the purges and consolidation. We don’t have the time for a Long March of our own, even if it could work. We’ve waited too long, and we’ve ceded too much ground.

Even if I’m wrong about timing, though, there is still a fundamental philosophical problem with pulling off a Long March of our own. Institutional subversion pairs nicely with Postmodernsim. More than that, though, liberal institutions like those found in the West are particularly vulnerable to the approach. They pair against each other as an ideal environment for this approach to work.

Let’s start with the institutions themselves and our traditional Western social and political philosophy. Regardless of all the claptrap from the Left, we are remarkably flexible, tolerant, open, honest and consistent. We are non-violent more often than we are violent in that we’d rather work out our issues through talking and disobedience than through open physical conflict (at least domestically – in terms of foreign affairs, it’s spottier and historically we have both tried to avoid war and entered into war enthusiastically). We are, in short, a juicy target for subversion if the right angle can be found.

The Postmodernist/Critical Theory crowd found that angle: justice and fairness. We are fundamentally just and fair. This gave them the wedge they needed, and why they put everything into fairness and justice terms. “It’s wrong that women are discriminated against in the workplace,” they said. “Fair enough, you’re right, all men are created equal,” we said. And so on. And with each turn of the crank, they increased their influence and position of power within our institutions. They did so at the beginning by pointing out actual inconsistencies between our liberal philosophy and our legal practice. They weren’t always wrong, and they weren’t always lying – and they used that as their wedge at the beginning. From there, they went insane. Each success allowed them to gain power, until long after there stopped being any legitimacy.

That’s how incrementalism works. You need to gain a foothold with something legitimate – like, for example, “Jim Crow laws are wrong.” If successful, you can keep pushing on more and more fronts until you end up at absurdities like “white people eating Thai food is cultural fetishism that reflects systemic white supremacy and racism.” And the more you push, and the more footholds you gain, the more of your people – or people just coincidentally aligned with you – will surround you. You will gain greater institutional control. You can then use that institutional control to turn out the next generation of operators, who will be even more radical than you.

So why won’t this work for our side? Simply, it won’t work for our side because the core concept requires that your opponents have standards. Without a standard for you to pursue, the approach won’t be effective. It requires at least one legitimate inconsistency in practice that conflicts with consistency of philosophy. That inconsistency is the wedge. Without that wedge, the approach is dead in the water. Our opponent has no such inconsistencies to exploit, which is why I think that a Long March of our own is a non-starter.

Most of you probably don’t believe me because the Left is inconsistent as hell. This is only superficially true. Take, for example, the obvious one. The Left is all about how racism is fundamentally wrong (and they’re right about that), yet they also hate and despise – to the point of savagery – white people and Asians. They claim to abhor bigotry on the basis of skin color, yet they are bigoted against whites and Asians. This is an inconsistency, isn’t it? No, it isn’t. And the reason why it isn’t is their philosophy.

Their objection isn’t to racial hatred or bigotry as such, their objection is to power structures they do not control. This is the core thesis of Postmodern philosophy. Simply (overly simply), Postmodern philosophy has as its root premises essentially:
1. There are infinite ways to interpret the world.
2. There is no way to differentiate superiority between those infinite interpretations.
3. All interpretations are in conflict through the interaction of various competing power hierarchies.

This is, of course, not entirely absurd. The first premise is true. The second certainly isn’t (after all – most of those infinite interpretations aren’t survivable and death is a final, if crude, arbiter) and the third is an expression of cynical evil. But when you take them together and on their own terms, it makes its defense against its own methods airtight.

The Postmodernists have agreed that various flavors of socialism are the ideal construction. This is unsurprising, as the Postmodernists all started life as disaffected Marxists. They are, of course, right that socialism is the best way. After all, they all agree on it and they are very smart and well-educated. And given this, they are impervious to their own methods.

Why are the impervious? It’s because of that third premise: that everything is a power struggle between competing dominance hierarchies. Anything is acceptable if it involves disrupting one power structure in favor of another – theirs. The reason why their positions that both “racism is bad” and “white people inherently posses inborn evil” aren’t in conflict internally is because both are functions of competing power under their system. Since disrupting power is good, and having power is bad (unless you’re them), this is fully justified. This is not a wedge. Indeed, there are no wedges.

(As an aside, if this sounds distantly familiar, it should. This is classical class-warfare Marxism in a new context. Instead of the relatively strict and inflexible “bourgeoisie” and “proletariat” economic classes, you now have the general and flexible “powerful” and “dis-empowered” – or, to put it in Critical Theory terms, the “oppressor” and the “oppressed” – and that can be applied gratuitously everywhere. This is what makes Postmodernism as a philosophy astoundingly powerful, and much more powerful than Marxism.)

Without the wedge to use as a starting point, the Long March cannot proceed, let alone succeed. If you call out their inconsistencies, they don’t care. They aren’t really inconsistencies. You’re just fighting to maintain your ill-begotten structural power that you don’t deserve. They will continue to fight you anyway because the terms under which they operate – unlike us – everything reduces to competing power dynamics. There are no absolute moral positions. We have those absolute moral positions: murder is wrong, racial hatred is bad, families are paramount, etc. They have none. Their only position amounts to:

Everything is power and the only way forward is to disrupt power and everything else is subordinated to that root concept. Your way is wrong because it isn’t my way and there is no way you can you prove your way is right because there are infinite interpretations of reality and yours is no better than any other. The arc of history proves that you’re wrong and I’m right and therefore anything I do is justified and proper and nothing whatsoever that you do is justified or proper.

In short, the problem is one of absolutes. We have them. They don’t. (well, they have one: the absolute of power – but this cannot be used as a wedge or an inconsistency, because it is necessarily flexible and justifies any means at any time) Their own methods cannot work on them. They are immune to them. They will laugh and shrug off any attempt to execute a Long March, disregard the premise, and then drag you off to a gulag anyway.

A Long March is the wrong approach to dealing with the massive institutional problems now that they’ve been subverted so completely. They can’t be subverted back to morality or propriety or honesty or fairness. Even if it could work in theory – and I don’t think it can – we don’t have the time. So what can we do?

Opt out and demand changes – massive, fundamental, regressive changes – before permitting ourselves to participate. There are a couple of ways to do this. Many are violent – open war, for example. Those are also high-risk and extremely destructive. It may come to that, but I don’t advocate for it. A better approach, I think, is massive, simultaneous direct action against them. A strike. A massive, long, general strike. No truckers trucking. No miners mining. No programmers programming. No stockers stocking. No assemblers assembling. No engineers engineering. Gridlock, crashing production, collapsing tax revenues, electrical power outages, gas delivery failures, transportation failure – and clog what’s left with massive, unstoppable peaceful demonstrations that grind everything left standing to a halt - with the oppression and arrest and all the rest that will come with it - as a necessary cost.

Subversion will fail. Reconquest is necessary, and that requires monumental action directly targeted at the people in charge, to scare them, starve them, and impoverish them into retreat. That might be the toehold that allows for the subversion or outright retaking of their institutions – under constant threat of retaliation that destroys their world. It might destroy ours, too, but it’s all I’ve got.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:04 AM

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1 This position is Sponge worthy!

Posted by: 496 at August 24, 2021 10:04 AM (VJsqe)

2 Joe doesn't get a monkey.

Because Joe is actually a cop.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:04 AM (LvTSG)

3 tonight

Posted by: shock the monkey at August 24, 2021 10:05 AM (cU/7/)

4 It is hard to rally the Leave-me-alone set to action short of revolution.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:06 AM (yQpMk)

5 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at August 24, 2021 10:06 AM (SaloS)

6 We wasted most of our time trying to capture the judiciary. We've been trying to get conservative judges on the bench for, what, 40 years, and what good has it really done?

We should have concentrated our efforts on academia instead.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at August 24, 2021 10:07 AM (eVwY+)

7 Will someone summarize Joe's point in 2-3 sentences foe me please? Thanks

Posted by: runner at August 24, 2021 10:07 AM (w45mR)

8 I finally cut the cord on cable (in my case DirecTv). So I am not directly funding my enemies. The hardest was to give up Amazon but I am getting by with Walmart and eBay, barely.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:08 AM (yQpMk)

9 Nice post Joe.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 10:08 AM (axyOa)

10 4 It is hard to rally the Leave-me-alone set to action short of revolution.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:06 AM (yQpMk)

"Leave me alone" should be a result. It can never be the cause.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at August 24, 2021 10:08 AM (eVwY+)

11 We wasted most of our time trying to capture the judiciary. We've been trying to get conservative judges on the bench for, what, 40 years, and what good has it really done?

We should have concentrated our efforts on academia instead.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at August 24, 2021 10:07 AM (eVwY+)
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There is likely something to this. We tried to recapture the judiciary using the produce of the pipeline that created candidates for it - the schools and the professional associations (which are in turn also plumbed into the schools). Those institutions turned out people who are inappropriate to the mission.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 24, 2021 10:08 AM (Jsjd7)

12 So, who is John Galt, is the workable solution?

Posted by: Rusty at August 24, 2021 10:08 AM (gtWiK)

13 More directly the long march requires tolerance by the victim. The left uses discrimination effectively to push out the right, there's no reason for them to let the right back in .

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 10:08 AM (z5Vrg)

14 Now, he's a true conservative!

'Conservative Bill Kristol' is proud and pleased to give his coveted endorsement to Terry McAuliffe in Virginia gubernatorial race

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 24, 2021 10:09 AM (d9FiS)

15 May I suggest Rivers of Blood? Its quicker and there is no recidivism.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 24, 2021 10:09 AM (/MaDp)

16 People will bear what they must until they can't.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:09 AM (yQpMk)

17 The long marches of Corruption have always dominated.

Until the Crashes.

Posted by: davidt at August 24, 2021 10:09 AM (Sg/3M)

18 Will someone summarize Joe's point in 2-3 sentences foe me please? Thanks
Posted by: runner at August 24, 2021 10:07 AM (w45mR)
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1. A Long March won't work against them because we don't have time and because their philosophy is immune to the approach.
2. They have to be forced out.
3. Forcing them out through a general strike may obviate open conflict.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 24, 2021 10:09 AM (Jsjd7)

19 First, there must be people willing to resist. As of now, I see hardly anyone willing to get their hair mussed. We are not a bold society.

Posted by: kraken at August 24, 2021 10:09 AM (6Je/Q)

20 I believe the unfortunate only answer is a severe national crisis, the likes we have not seen on our soil in many, many years, or a devastating World War. Either one could upend enough that we start over. Otherwise, essentially zero chance that the right can retake the nation.

Posted by: Baldy at August 24, 2021 10:10 AM (OLCH5)

21 Ok. Son what's the solution?

Posted by: runner at August 24, 2021 10:11 AM (w45mR)

22 Anarchists of the world UNITE!!!

Meeting at 10!

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 24, 2021 10:11 AM (flINI)

23 So, not son ...

Posted by: runner at August 24, 2021 10:11 AM (w45mR)

24 The worse the better.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:12 AM (yQpMk)

25 Because we started with a mostly good system. We ain't trying to re-invent the wheel here.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 24, 2021 10:12 AM (qH6FZ)

26 From the Bee . . .

Democrats Unveil 'Tread On Me' Flag

https://bit.ly/3gvHMEO

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 24, 2021 10:12 AM (d9FiS)

27 Conservative people need to start paying attention to local governance and get involved. Stop outsourcing. Stop saying "X" should be primaried - go do it. Get on local boards, commissions, grand juries, etc.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2021 10:13 AM (KAi1n)

28 Look to history to find those vehicles of change... they are grim and messy.

Posted by: kraken at August 24, 2021 10:13 AM (6Je/Q)

29 3. Forcing them out through a general strike may obviate open conflict.

The problem with that of course is where do I live and what do I eat while that is taking effect?

Posted by: Oddbob at August 24, 2021 10:14 AM (nfrXX)

30 29 3. Forcing them out through a general strike may obviate open conflict.

The problem with that of course is where do I live and what do I eat while that is taking effect?
Posted by: Oddbob at August 24, 2021 10:14 AM (nfrXX)

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You live in the city, and you eat the weak.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:14 AM (LvTSG)

31 "...monumental action directly targeted at the people in charge, to scare them, starve them, and impoverish them into retreat."

i tend to agree. And in my mind i can see schumer and pelosi holding a press conference, smoke rising in the background, and they are saying, "Look. We understand people are upset. Perhaps this Bill was over reach but thats why the American people elected us. To work out these differences."
Yeah. The leopard hasnt changed its spots.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 10:14 AM (axyOa)

32 People are not fighting the mask or the jab, what makes anyone think they will fight for anything? We are just sheep now. I can't think of anything short if nuclear attack that will rouse anyone.

Posted by: Megthered at August 24, 2021 10:14 AM (EUWV+)

33 Will someone summarize Joe's point in 2-3 sentences foe me please? Thanks
Posted by: runner at August 24, 2021 10:07 AM (w45mR)

Until your enemies experience real, genuine, lasting pushback, including, but not limited to, doxxing, job loss, boycotts, SWATting, arson, destruction of property and physical retaliation, nothing will change.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 24, 2021 10:14 AM (2JVJo)

34 Air b & b is going to "house" 20,000 refuges.

All your property belongs to the state. Imagine how much destruction will be done to those properties.

Posted by: four seasons at August 24, 2021 10:15 AM (PisyI)

35 there is still a fundamental philosophical problem with pulling off a Long March of our own

There are many millions of new administrator and bureaucrat positions to be eliminated. Anybody who applies for those jobs is suspect.

Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2021 10:15 AM (pbStR)

36 You live in the city, and you eat the weak.

One Triggleypuff can feed the average family for a month.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:15 AM (yQpMk)

37 29 3. Forcing them out through a general strike may obviate open conflict.

The problem with that of course is where do I live and what do I eat while that is taking effect?
Posted by: Oddbob at August 24, 2021 10:14 AM (nfrXX)

Ah... that's the Cost Part that has to be counted... are " we" ready to pay it?

Posted by: kraken at August 24, 2021 10:15 AM (6Je/Q)

38 Conservatism is reactionary. It is in its nature. This has been true since the 1840's.
Any measures taken that are proactive are not Conservative. People would rather save a political party or an ideological label than our country. It's strange.

It's difficult to tribe up in a society brainwashed and conditioned since birth to worship the atomized individual, bootstraps, and every thing foreign and inverted while hating the majority of Heritage Americans, which is the founding stock, to the point we are leaving stage 7 of genocide moving into stage 8.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 24, 2021 10:15 AM (c2XlY)

39 Air b & b is going to "house" 20,000 refuges.

All your property belongs to the state. Imagine how much destruction will be done to those properties.
Posted by: four seasons at August 24, 2021 10:15 AM (PisyI)
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That's going to be a hit with the people who list their properties there. Cue the mass delisting of properties in 3, 2, 1 ...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 24, 2021 10:16 AM (Jsjd7)

40 7 Will someone summarize Joe's point in 2-3 sentences foe me please? Thanks
Posted by: runner at August 24, 2021 10:07 AM (w45mR)

we're fucked

we have always been fucked

we will always be fucked

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 10:16 AM (uCLWI)

41 Conservative people need to start paying attention to local governance and get involved. Stop outsourcing. Stop saying "X" should be primaried - go do it. Get on local boards, commissions, grand juries, etc.

Yup. For all the jokes about the left being primarily astroturf rather than grassroots, local politics was a major part of how they took over. State Secretaries of State control Federal elections. Soros understood that while conservatives slept.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 24, 2021 10:16 AM (6XLoz)

42 the left has not moved right, but the right has moved left. We are constantly apologizing for America. Repubs are constantly apologizing. Trump never does that and they hate him for it. The left took society in many ways even though many resist. Something major has to change or it will be pretty much the way it is. THere is a reason the stock market edges up slowly but consistently. These guys went all in on the Dems and they are going to hold out until the last dog dies.

Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 10:16 AM (ZS6f0)

43 Maybe instead of trying to capture institution "X" we should concentrate on burning institution "X" to the ground, scatter the ashes, salt the earth, etc.

What's the point of capturing something inherently broken?
- Government
- Education
- Media
- Corporate Amerikka
- Other

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2021 10:16 AM (BFigT)

44 I can't think of anything short if nuclear attack that will rouse anyone.
Posted by: Megthered at August 24, 2021 10:14 AM (EUWV+)

Nuclear attack on Texas or Florida and more than half the country cheers.

Nuclear attack on DC and the rest of us cheer.

We will never be a united nation again.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 24, 2021 10:16 AM (2JVJo)

45 There is no leadership. That's problem. Trump....dangerous to follow, he just might not have your back. But he is good at agitation and clever labels.

Posted by: runner at August 24, 2021 10:16 AM (w45mR)

46 Will someone summarize Joe's point in 2-3 sentences foe me please? Thanks
Posted by: runner

We're fucked.

Posted by: rickb223 Pronouns: Your Highness, Master at August 24, 2021 10:16 AM (OCTRt)

47 People are not fighting the mask or the jab, what makes anyone think they will fight for anything? We are just sheep now. I can't think of anything short if nuclear attack that will rouse anyone.

Posted by: Megthered at August 24, 2021 10:14 AM (EUWV+)

Not altogether true.

Lots of vids out there of school board meetings where parents are fighting mask mandates and CRT.

Also, medical professionals resisting jab mandate. Nurses and others in medical community will walk rather than submit.

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:17 AM (DJFLF)

48 Good post Joe.

As the old song goes: I'm gonna do something, even if it's wrong.

BR-549

Posted by: Jak Sucio / Pronouns: Get Fvcked at August 24, 2021 10:17 AM (jvt6t)

49 Will someone summarize Joe's point in 2-3 sentences foe me please?

God says he can get me out of this but he's pretty sure that you are fucked.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:17 AM (yQpMk)

50 There are many intuitions that we cannot reclaim since we are excluded intentionally. We may start our own but look at the history of Christian schools in your area. Most likely you will see numerous, small, struggling schools that never reach critical mass and ultimately fail. We are too fractured to cooperate effectively in many cases.

The slide into tyranny isn't going to be easy to stop. We are going to have to separate ourselves from it. And we are likely to see a whole lot of "cleansing" in both directions. I will be pushed out of my blue area and a lot of California idiots are going to be pushed out of their red areas. It's unavoidable. The question is how bloody it will be.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at August 24, 2021 10:17 AM (+Kpte)

51 What's the point of capturing something inherently broken?

Because you then benefit from the goodwill that that organization has with normies. "Wear it as a skin suit", in Burge's formulation.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (6XLoz)

52 Why don't we do our own Long March?

1 There's no time.
2 The credentials necessary to infiltrate the institutions
that have been corrupted require university, which is a breeding ground for leftism and weeds out most conservative.
3 It would require a sea-change in the attitudes of the young. After all, it is they who would have to make the long march. We're short timers. And if there were a sea-change in the attitudes of the young, the Long March wouldn't be necessary in the first place.
4 Our enemy is not stupid. Sure they do stupid things all the time, but they know how they've acheived power and jealously guard it. It wouldn't be easy to sneak up on them in the manner they did us.
5 Power never concedes power, it must be taken.
6 Did I mention there's no time? I believe that. We don't have 50 years to wait for attitudes to come to fruition. It will be irrevocably lost long before then.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (z79tQ)

53 Australia Goes MAD MAX

FINALLY (Capitlization is correct) Australian Truck Drivers Vow To Block Every Major Highway In Radical Anti-Lockdown Strike, by Tyler Durden, Monday, Aug 23, 2021 - 10:20 PM

[ROAD TRANSPORTATION IS THE LIFEBLOOD OF AUSTRALIA. EVEN THE MILITARY DOESN'T HAVE THE RESOURCES TO OVERCOME SUCH A BAN - WITHOUT GREATER ATTACKS ON DEMOCRACY]

As Australians take to the streets to protest the country's lockdown measures - most recently clashing with police over the weekend, Aussie truck drivers are planning to shut down every major highway across the country and have advised people to 'stock up on groceries.'

Posted by: SMOD at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (RHGPo)

54 39 ++++
That's going to be a hit with the people who list their properties there. Cue the mass delisting of properties in 3, 2, 1 ...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 24, 2021 10:16 AM (Jsjd7)

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My guess would be that it'll be voluntary on the parts of those who list their properties. Air BnB rentees have always had the ability to refuse rentals from people.

So, this'll be voluntary, and 20,000 or so properties will open themselves up to potential damage from people who have no rental history. Seems dodgy, sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (LvTSG)

55 The counter to Marxism is Authoritarianism, or Pinochetism, if you'd rather. You cannot attack them from a Liberal or Moral approach, even if the end result is indeed moral. Only power, naked force, can or will decide the issue.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (V6f9+)

56 Maybe instead of trying to capture institution "X" we should concentrate on burning institution "X" to the ground, scatter the ashes, salt the earth, etc.

What's the point of capturing something inherently broken?
- Government
- Education
- Media
- Corporate Amerikka
- Other
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2021 10:16 AM (BFigT)
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This is another option, and it is a damn good. Doing so, however, requires full control of the command heights of whatever it is we want to target first. Pick any US federal agency. We can be choosy (Ed, EPA, etc.), but needn't be. Pick one and close it. Defund and end it. That would alone would scare a lot of the rest straight. Rinse and repeat as needed.

But to do that, you need a Congress, President and Judiciary that will take the action (the former two) and then not block and repeal it (the latter two).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (Jsjd7)

57 PA Gov hasn't been his usual COVIDictatorial self. I guess the spring referendum kind of cooled his tyrannical tool.

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (DJFLF)

58 This is a very good post. I do believe that we're entering a new Golden Age of Blogging (or Silver or Bronze or whatever) as conservatives retreat from Twitter & FB, and other platforms where they can be easily censored.

Anyway, to riff on the discussion of "power" a bit...

One of the keys to understanding why we can't have our own Long March is that the Left will never admit that they have power. They will lie about what they control; they will exaggerate the amount of power that non-Leftists have; they will characterize leftist institutions as "fascist" to avoid acknowleding that those institutions are part of the left's power structure. If you point out that Academe is Leftist, they might agree but they'll tell you that Academe has no power: It's all corporations and military and fascist whites who have real power.

Because the Left sees themselves as the downtrodden and powerless, they do everything they can to keep those they perceive as "powerful" out of the spaces they control. That's why it's okay to have an all-black club or neighborhood, but an all-white club or neighborhood is racist. [TO BE CONTINUED]

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (7YLZ1)

59 The Right can't do what the Left does because we are fierce individualists. It's like herding cats.

The Left are the Borg.

The Left are also bold but not brave. The Right are courageous but not bold. The Left can't function without causing misery . It's what fuels their engine.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:19 AM (2DOZq)

60 57 PA Gov hasn't been his usual COVIDictatorial self. I guess the spring referendum kind of cooled his tyrannical tool.
Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (DJFLF)

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I was assured that there's no pushback and no one can leave their houses in America right now because of Delta.

I was assured!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:19 AM (LvTSG)

61 The "no wedges" concept is also demonstrated by their change of the definition of "racism" away from hatred / bias due to immutable characteristics to an oppressor / oppressed binary where the "racist" is the one who has imputed power, and the "oppressed" as the powerless victim.

Thus, only white people can be racist, because they are the only ones with power, and minorities cannot be racist, even if they display hatred / bias due to immutable characteristics, because they don't have power due to their being in the "oppressed" class.

Posted by: Revenant at August 24, 2021 10:19 AM (0BW5E)

62 There is really only one cure for rampant leftism, the purging fire. Until we get there, we will continue to suffer their abuses.

Posted by: squid_hunt at August 24, 2021 10:19 AM (B0mGw)

63 Part of the problem is that many of those institutions that were marched through are illegitimate to begin with. There should never have been government-run education. There should never have been government-run science (I’m somewhat amazed that Dwight Eisenhower of all people recognized this) and the gigantic funding bureaucracy that entails. Government-run charity (and I’m not even talking about welfare).

All of these mean huge bureaucracies not just on the government side but on the receiving side, on the ostensibly “private” side. Both of which are highly susceptible to subversion by control-left types.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 24, 2021 10:20 AM (CX3cf)

64 First, there must be people willing to resist. As of now, I see hardly anyone willing to get their hair mussed. We are not a bold society.

Posted by: kraken

Even now we make excuses as to why we won't take the actions needed. Some of it is just being in denial such action is called for, and that I can get. But if we don't get our heads straight and pull our shit together we're going to temporize and excuse our way into the camps.

Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at August 24, 2021 10:20 AM (OUMaO)

65 Good post. Many such institutions, like academia and the media, are laden with debt and in competition with many better people. In short, they are no longer "viable," and are certainly less vital to the country than the American working man.

Repudiating debts to the Wall Street cabal is not only a way to break their power permanently, but a good way to empower all Americans.

Posted by: trev006 at August 24, 2021 10:20 AM (OC62d)

66 55 The counter to Marxism is Authoritarianism, or Pinochetism, if you'd rather. You cannot attack them from a Liberal or Moral approach, even if the end result is indeed moral. Only power, naked force, can or will decide the issue.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (V6f9+)

Liberalism.... its fatal flaw is its obsession with " Nuance"... some things cannot be Nuanced...

Posted by: kraken at August 24, 2021 10:20 AM (6Je/Q)

67 If you ain't kneeling against America, you don't stand for America, Fat!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 24, 2021 10:20 AM (ELgVT)

68 Twitter is old news already.

Posted by: runner at August 24, 2021 10:20 AM (w45mR)

69
The problem with seeking salvation through the judiciary is that conservative judges judge by law and precedent; some decisions will go your way, others won't.

Leftist judges only care about agenda, not law, precedent, respect for other branches of government, the Constitution or any of that nonsense.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2021 10:20 AM (/U27+)

70 Until your enemies experience real, genuine, lasting pushback, including, but not limited to, doxxing, job loss, boycotts, SWATting, arson, destruction of property and physical retaliation, nothing will change.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 24, 2021 10:14 AM (2JVJo)

Harsh, but fair.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at August 24, 2021 10:20 AM (eVwY+)

71 We don't have the time for a Long March of our own, even if it could work. We've waited too long, and we've ceded too much ground.

I understand this phrase in terms of the political landscape, but can we stop with the royal 'we' already?

Thanks to the Long March, every institution that previous generations would take for granted have been thoroughly compromised. The entire point of having a nation / civilization worth conserving is that we are grateful for the wisdom our parents / schools teach us and use the rest of our lives cultivating our children in the values of honestly, humility, and gratitude while building long-lasting structures that will help make everyone's life a little bit better.

The Post-Modernists have completely destroyed that notion (to be continued).

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (HK8/E)

72 Hehe. Clearly we're on the same page. After commenting I read the post (HEY, it's a time honored tradition here).

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (z79tQ)

73 Lol
Conservatives abandoned the profession of education decades ago for higher paying positions
Fear not for those Amdricans in Kabul the 5000 Talban prisoners released by Trump have pledged to treat them as they were treated in prisons for decades

Posted by: Kurt at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (ROoJl)

74 First, there must be people willing to resist. As of now, I see hardly anyone willing to get their hair mussed. We are not a bold society.

Posted by: kraken

Even now we make excuses as to why we won't take the actions needed. Some of it is just being in denial such action is called for, and that I can get. But if we don't get our heads straight and pull our shit together we're going to temporize and excuse our way into the camps.
Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at August 24, 2021 10:20 AM (OUMaO)

Remember the light switch analogy. It's accurate.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (2DOZq)

75 I have been looking at the Taliban a lot the last two weeks.

They have a model that has successfully kicked the asses of the Russians and now us.

I'm thinking a lot about lessons that can be taken from them.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (5p7BC)

76 being a cynical fuck, I surmised at an early age that people are not as good and kind as one would like to think

60 years of evidence has not changed my mind

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (uCLWI)

77 I was assured!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:19 AM (LvTSG)

Listen...I am certain he's huddled behind the scenes forming a plan with the PA marksist elites to get around the restrictions placed on him by the leg.

But in the meantime, I delight that he feels performance anxiety with respect to our commie government to the east, run by Comrade Murphy.

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (DJFLF)

78 PA Gov hasn't been his usual COVIDictatorial self. I guess the spring referendum kind of cooled his tyrannical tool.
Posted by: kallisto

Good !

Posted by: JT at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (arJlL)

79 50 There are many intuitions that we cannot reclaim since we are excluded intentionally. We may start our own but look at the history of Christian schools in your area. Most likely you will see numerous, small, struggling schools that never reach critical mass and ultimately fail. We are too fractured to cooperate effectively in many cases.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at August 24, 2021 10:17 AM (+Kpte)

A fragmented church is unable to contest against the state and usually becomes an institution dominated by the state.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (z5Vrg)

80 That's a pretty terrifying analysis.

Posted by: 496 at August 24, 2021 10:22 AM (VJsqe)

81 Mr. Mannix Sir,

This is not who we are. We are here to be bipartisan and work with our colleagues across the aisle like President Biden and Speaker Pelosi. The American people demand bipartisan, centrist solutions and we are here to listen to those demands. We are happy to give Democrats 98% of what they want and call it a victory.

PS: Please send $100 ASAP so we can stop the radical Biden/Pelosi agenda.

Your truly,
The GOP

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:22 AM (GQ5VU)

82 A general strike will turn violent because just like the left wouldn't allow any conservative states to secede, they will not allow production to slow to a halt. They will send in armed strike breakers. It will be on then.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at August 24, 2021 10:22 AM (jAWZO)

83 So why wont this work for our side? Simply, it wont work for our side because the core concept requires that your opponents have standards.
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This.

It was pointed out by another moron that this is a core tenant of Marxism. Use the freedom in the system to gain power, then remove those freedoms.

See January 6th if you're unfamiliar.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 24, 2021 10:22 AM (oxVgP)

84 6 Did I mention there's no time? I believe that. We don't have 50 years to wait for attitudes to come to fruition. It will be irrevocably lost long before then.
Posted by: OneEyedJack
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Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 24, 2021 10:22 AM (l0Lgi)

85 You cannot attack them from a Liberal or Moral approach, even if the end result is indeed moral. Only power, naked force, can or will decide the issue.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (V6f9+)

They gave up the moral ground, true enough. However, the moral ground of war is critical. Not just in preserving your own forces, but keeping the goals you are fighting for. Otherwise things rapidly devolve below Caesarism.

Posted by: trev006 at August 24, 2021 10:22 AM (OC62d)

86 Shut up, Dunce. Your circus, your clowns.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:22 AM (yQpMk)

87 The takeover had requirements. The body to be taken had to have entrance into it only allowed by those already inside. It also had to have those inside at the beginning to not consider political persuasion as being a criteria to look into.

Once a few on the Left gained positions they would then always favor others on the Left for entrance but argue it from perspectives other than political. This would continue until the Left had a majority in the body.

Educational institutions were the first, especially the grad-degree programs as their graduates could be used to infiltrate and capture all else in society.

Posted by: geoffb at August 24, 2021 10:23 AM (r//c2)

88 I finally cut the cord on cable (in my case DirecTv). So I am not directly funding my enemies. The hardest was to give up Amazon but I am getting by with Walmart and eBay, barely.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:08 AM

My Amazon spending went from $2,000/yr to less than $100 so far this year after Amazon decided to impose their "trans cannot be questioned" policy by banning certain books.

Comcast free since the all-team NFL kneeling day.

Posted by: Chuck C at August 24, 2021 10:23 AM (EughT)

89 They will send in armed strike breakers. It will be on then.
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at August 24, 2021 10:22 AM (jAWZO)

I can't imagine anything that would split the Democrats more bitterly and make them join the Greenwald/ Dore wing. So that's what will probably happen.

Posted by: trev006 at August 24, 2021 10:23 AM (OC62d)

90 The Long March was capable of its achievements by being dishonorable, denying reality and instilling a damnable pride in those who followed its teachings.

Eventually those who want a free country again are going to need to come back to the realization that sometimes it is the Holy, Right and Christian thing to do to punch a man in the face.

Posted by: Spiff The Spaceman at August 24, 2021 10:23 AM (lfSFb)

91 20 I believe the unfortunate only answer is a severe national crisis, the likes we have not seen on our soil in many, many years, or a devastating World War. Either one could upend enough that we start over. Otherwise, essentially zero chance that the right can retake the nation.
Posted by: Baldy at August 24, 2021 10:10 AM (OLCH5)

Agree. In the Old Testament, you had many prophets, but especially Jeremiah, implore the people to repent and go back to their old and cherished ways. Not doing so meant destruction and slavery until they saw the error of their ways and returned to the Lord.

This time isn't any different. All we can do is be a voice in the wilderness, proclaiming a better way. The answer is not conservatism, because the old ways are gone, and what Conservatives are trying to do is hold water in their hands. How many would love to go back to the halcyon days of not the 19th Century, but simply 1989, for instance? That battle was lost a long time ago. We need to be reactionaries, not conservatives. We also need to advocate for Judeo-Christian values, which don't change.*

*Ok, the Left infiltrated those institutions as well, but there is a remnant here.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 24, 2021 10:23 AM (mdjgu)

92 Look, they won for a simple reason: they imported millions of ringer voters. They basically seized power through a policy of racist colonialism, one that was stupidly supported by their alleged opponents the Republicans and conservatism. And not just the traitors on top, but the rank-and-file as well. Both groups STILL support mass immigration even though it is obviously killing them. The leaders are calling for millions of Afghanis right now, who will not only contribute to the cultural destruction of the nation but will vote Democrat the first chance they get. Talk about marching through the institutions is irrelevant in the face of displacement. Mass immigration is the only problem, and conservatism not only is doing and saying nothing against it, it still supports it. The media has made it a sort of religious suicide cult.

Posted by: JohnB at August 24, 2021 10:23 AM (hZ490)

93 It was pointed out by another moron that this is a core tenant of Marxism. Use the freedom in the system to gain power, then remove those freedoms.

See January 6th if you're unfamiliar.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 24, 2021 10:22 AM (oxVgP)

Democracy is like a streetcar. When you come to your stop, you get off.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 10:24 AM (z5Vrg)

94 Reconquest is necessary, and that requires monumental action directly targeted at the people in charge, to scare them, starve them, and impoverish them into retreat.

I found the Fed!

Posted by: blaster at August 24, 2021 10:24 AM (mbFEM)

95 As Australians take to the streets to protest the country's lockdown measures - most recently clashing with police over the weekend, Aussie truck drivers are planning to shut down every major highway across the country and have advised people to 'stock up on groceries.'
Posted by: SMOD

Coming to a city near you!

Posted by: rickb223 Pronouns: Your Highness, Master at August 24, 2021 10:24 AM (OCTRt)

96 You can't win an argument with postmodernists (i.e., wokesters) who reject reason itself. To them, every "text" or "narrative" is based upon power, not upon logic. They regard logic itself as a weapon of oppression.

Pluckrose wrote a book about it, which I tried to read, and quickly realized I'd do just as well to read a book about astrology.

Posted by: gp Gives Neither Fish Nor Candy at August 24, 2021 10:24 AM (qpX6U)

97 Building wealth was a lot easier when the banks had a 5% interest rate and housing was half as expensive as it is now. Now both parents have to work just to not live in a shoebox, which removes the probability of home-schooling or actually taking an active role in the child's life.

Schooling and academia? Hell, that's bad enough. Now we have social media provide a 24/7 propaganda network designed to paralyze children's very sense of identity and the post-modernists won't stop until our children denounce us and join the imaginary gender grouping, since the post-modernists understand better than Orwell that to hack an impressionable mind, you have to hack the sex instinct...

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at August 24, 2021 10:24 AM (HK8/E)

98 Kristi Noem has said she will not support the legislature that bans companies ordering employees to Vax up.

Posted by: Megthered at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (J+qpY)

99 So you didn't like the movie then? /ducks

You've put into words what I've concluded, much better than I could. We can't effectively fight them on the terrain that they control and have mastery over. I like the trucker strike idea, and I hope the one in AUS materializes, but they never actually seem to.

:-/

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (DXFDM)

100 Poso dunks on Commander Bearclaw:

https://tinyurl.com/bxytu973

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (DJFLF)

101 So many conservatives just want to be left alone. I don't want to change everything, I just want to be left alone to live my life the way I want to based on my own morals and decisions.

Leftists will always do the long marches bc they think they have all the right ideas and they're better than you.

Posted by: brak at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (3INIB)

102 People are too comfortable, even with the China Flu Scam and other troubles in the world going full throttle.

Bread and circuses keep our overlords in power.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (R/m4+)

103 I'm going to repeat my list to stimulate other's contributions

There is a lot you can do against Leviathan without even sticking your neck out. Some thoughts in no particular order:

1. Stop buying stuff
2. Do only what the government directly compels you to do. Do not voluntarily cooperate Do not volunteer information.
3. Pay in cash with a winkwink
4. Cheat the government whenever possible
5. Steal all your entertainment
6. If you know of tax cheating, keep your mouth shut
7. If called to jury, refuse to convict if you think the law unjust

Posted by: G'rump928(c) won't participate at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (yQpMk)

104
8. Discriminate in all your private dealings, without openly saying so. Never miss an opportunity to quietly do a Commie dirty.
9. If you see a CoC sticker on a business, go elsewhere
10. Vote against all tax levies, particularly school levies
11. Buy firearms and ammo. It's not simply a just-in-case, it's a good financial investment of small sums when savings are yielding 1/4 of a percent.

Good Citizens are chumps.

They need us more than we need them.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) won't participate at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (yQpMk)

105 59 The Right can't do what the Left does because we are fierce individualists. It's like herding cats.

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Not really. There are things on the right where everyone is pretty united. Taxes is one thing. Even here, the notion that if Bezos pays more tax it's some commie socialist plot is held pretty firm. Even knowing that Bezos uses his wealth to fight YOU, you still fight for him to pay lower taxes. Because.... muhConservativePrinciples, which have been beaten into you for the past 50 years by the likes of National Review and Hannity.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (GQ5VU)

106 The Bezmenov video of yesteday pointed out that our subverion was OVERT for many decades. It seems our response to it was... ineffective.

Posted by: kraken at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (6Je/Q)

107 Well done again, Joe. I'd offer another of our biggest challenges in this regard is we tend to be more family oriented. It's relatively hard to opt out of your job (going Galt), your school district (even if one chooses to private school his kids), etc if one has a family to raise. Andy & Brandy Tifa sure as $hit aren't worrying about whether xhe can provide for Junior as they set our cities on fire.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at August 24, 2021 10:26 AM (Oka5v)

108 Meghan McCain compares chuckling Kamala Harris to Joaquin Phoenix's Joker

Posted by: SMOD at August 24, 2021 10:26 AM (RHGPo)

109 Posted by: Megthered at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (J+qpY)

she's completely useless.

Unless one considers riding horses while holding US Flag a realy big accomplishment, like rilly rilly patriotic guys!!!@!??

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:26 AM (DJFLF)

110 My guess would be that it'll be voluntary on the parts of those who list their properties. Air BnB rentees have always had the ability to refuse rentals from people.

Since refugees obviously aren't going to be paying ABnB prices for housing, I assume this means that ABnB is guaranteeing the income for the owners (possibly at a negotiated lower rate) and also insuring against loss from damage. Otherwise there is no sane person who would agree to it. I don't even know if ABnB is publicly traded but this looks like the short selling opportunity of a lifetime.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 24, 2021 10:27 AM (nfrXX)

111 98 Kristi Noem has said she will not support the legislature that bans companies ordering employees to Vax up.
Posted by: Megthered at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (J+qpY)

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My kind of severe conservative.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 24, 2021 10:27 AM (GQ5VU)

112 The hardest was to give up Amazon but I am getting by with Walmart and eBay, barely.

I use both of those to replace Amazon, and also Home Depot. Home Depot has a lot of the stuff Amazon does, and has free delivery to your local store. I just ordered a kitchen scale through them.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 24, 2021 10:27 AM (CX3cf)

113 Most of you probably dont believe me because the Left is inconsistent as hell. This is only superficially true.

**

And I think the HQ Style Guide requires this footnote every time this sort of thing is pointed out:

The left doesn't care if you point out their hypocrisy.
The left doesn't care if you call them hypocrites.
The left wants you dead.
That's all they care about.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 24, 2021 10:27 AM (oxVgP)

114 Well said grump.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2021 10:27 AM (aaUwX)

115 You can see how this is done. There are lots of small, insular groups that have been cohesive throughout history: the Jews, the Amish, lots of smaller religious denominations. They set themselves outside the mainstream culture, raise families and try to live together in areas where they can somewhat control outside influence.

Why do you think I keep complaining when folks here say "Don't come to my state"? This is a site you should be recruiting for people to move there. You need allies, you need like minded people. Yet even that is too much. We can't seem to shift gears from thinking that we are the dominate culture. We should be thinking of ourselves as counter culture. Find jobs that don't require you to work for corporations. Learn to barter. Get involved in local politics, but don't waste a lot of energy on anything beyond your state.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 24, 2021 10:27 AM (5HBd1)

116 108 Meghan McCain compares chuckling Kamala Harris to Joaquin Phoenix's Joker
Posted by: SMOD at August 24, 2021 10:26 AM (RHGPo)

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This administration is a disaster for the Left.

God, I hope elections mean something next year.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (LvTSG)

117 98 Kristi Noem has said she will not support the legislature that bans companies ordering employees to Vax up.
Posted by: Megthered at August 24, 2021 10:2

Sounds like another veto for the legislature to override.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (G2zl5)

118 CONTINUED FROM 58
So if you show up as a conservative at a newspaper, or university English Lit department, or trade union, or parenting blog, or any other place that has been fully cordycepted by leftism, you're not going to be treated as a harmless minority. You're going to be treated as an oppressor who holds Real Power. You will be lied to and told that your race enjoys fantastic privileges, that everyone agrees with your views (which are racist & sexist & terrible) and that you are invading a Safe Space for vulnerable disenfranchised (etc.) folx. You'll never (openly) get your toe in the door because you'll instantly be perceived as an existential threat the way that traditional institutions should have, but did not, view leftists 00 years ago.

Maybe a solution is to join the institution, keep your head down, and try to climb the ladder so that you can do conservative stuff once you're in authority. But that doesn't work. Even if you're nominally in charge, you can be deposed if the great mass of people under you want you gone. And trying to work within the system changes you. Pretending to be a leftist turns you into a leftist. That's why our Supreme Court judges go bad.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (7YLZ1)

119 73 Lol
Conservatives abandoned the profession of education decades ago for higher paying positions

Posted by: Kurt at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (ROoJl)

Note Kurt actually said something that makes sense here.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (eVwY+)

120 Will someone summarize Joe's point in 2-3 sentences foe me please? Thanks
Posted by: runner

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Donate more to the GOP and vote harder!
/sarc/

Posted by: 496 at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (VJsqe)

121 Control of cultural institutions is key to control of a society. Until cultural institutions come under our influence there will never be a any serious success in changing the wider culture.

Posted by: Mike H at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (NnN0z)

122 I have been looking at the Taliban a lot the last two weeks.

They have a model that has successfully kicked the asses of the Russians and now us.

I'm thinking a lot about lessons that can be taken from them.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (5p7BC)

I contend the Taliban did not kick our ass in the least. We are the guy in the bar that kicked the shit out of the loud mouth bully and decided afterwards to go home. Just because the beaten bully decides to run his mouth again after you are walking out the door doesn't mean he beat you. He only survived.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (2DOZq)

123 110 Since refugees obviously aren't going to be paying ABnB prices for housing, I assume this means that ABnB is guaranteeing the income for the owners (possibly at a negotiated lower rate) and also insuring against loss from damage. Otherwise there is no sane person who would agree to it. I don't even know if ABnB is publicly traded but this looks like the short selling opportunity of a lifetime.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 24, 2021 10:27 AM (nfrXX)

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You're probably right.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (LvTSG)

124 I don't know how we square the circle. You can't coexist with people who want you dead. Well, you can, I guess. Israel does. You would think that with the barbarians at the gate Israel wouldn't be ate up with Leftists that want the country destroyed from within, too.

But you would be wrong.

Posted by: blaster at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (mbFEM)

125 Long marches, civil disobedience and peaceful protest will not work against the left. They took advantage of the Western civ. tolerance for dissent and compassion for the oppressed to take it over. They will not return the favor and will ruthlessly put down their opponents when they can. Look what they did to the "insurrectionists" and how they shut down any criticism after the election. And they don't even have full control yet. It will be much worse in a few years.

Posted by: Ripley at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (MxEKc)

126 You cannot attack them from a Liberal or Moral approach, even if the end result is indeed moral. Only power, naked force, can or will decide the issue.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:18 AM (V6f9+)

They gave up the moral ground, true enough. However, the moral ground of war is critical. Not just in preserving your own forces, but keeping the goals you are fighting for. Otherwise things rapidly devolve below Caesarism.
Posted by: trev006 at August 24, 2021 10:22 AM (OC62d)

Ceasarism, Authoritarianism by another name, is indeed all that will work. The moral groundwork for a 'just war' would require lawful authority to implement a purge of Chilean levels, if not more. But we are very very unlikely to get lawful authority to issue that command.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (V6f9+)

127 Leftism's belief in the "right side of history" absolves individuals of any responsibility. History progresses whatever they do. I wonder if they think the Taliban are on the right side of history?

Posted by: zmdavid at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (xqRaG)

128 Not really. There are things on the right where everyone is pretty united. Taxes is one thing. Even here, the notion that if Bezos pays more tax it's some commie socialist plot is held pretty firm. Even knowing that Bezos uses his wealth to fight YOU, you still fight for him to pay lower taxes. Because.... muhConservativePrinciples, which have been beaten into you for the past 50 years by the likes of National Review and Hannity.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (GQ5VU)

We've been over this repeatedly. Wealthy people do not pay normal income taxes. Your odds of rigging a tax system to go after the wealthiest is basically 0. It's like thinking that regulations exist to restrain big corporations rather than enhancing their profit margins.

If we're going to go after Bezos it would likely be through more direct action, ranging from seizures/fines to breaking up Amazon.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (z5Vrg)

129 And upon review - I concur with Mr. ace's assessment that Gov. Noem is a NYC 6

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:29 AM (DJFLF)

130 Religion? Steadily declining and thanks to a pope who's more interested in making winky faces to Hollywood & having nice media quotes than actually bringing people into the faith, the very bulwark of civilizational faith has been reduced to "just be nice." The Post-Modernists have successfully co-opted that so what they're really saying is "just accept every one of my premises and never ever make me feel bad about myself."

And that doesn't include the Post-Modern pseudo-government actors which would make the Stasi blush with pride. One of our posters (I think either Lizzy or Lady in Black) posted an article about how the government uses network mapping to determine who the real "influencers" are and priming the targets. It's much easier to blackmail / bribe 10 top actors than it is to win the hearts and minds of millions...

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at August 24, 2021 10:29 AM (HK8/E)

131 129 And upon review - I concur with Mr. ace's assessment that Gov. Noem is a NYC 6
Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:29 AM (DJFLF)

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In a crowd of hotties, she'd barely get any attention.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:29 AM (LvTSG)

132 >We are constantly apologizing for America. Repubs are constantly apologizing. Trump never does that and they hate him for it.
Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 10:16 AM (ZS6f0)

Feh, Trump shilling for the clot shot has gravely damaged him in my eyes. I get that he's a germaphobe, but he could have just kept his damned mouth shut on that topic. After all that he's been put through, for him to lend any legitimacy to the narrative of the ruling class is the height of stupidity and fecklessness. He needs to ride off into the sunset instead of trying to feed his massive ego some more.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 10:29 AM (DXFDM)

133 Kristi Noem has said she will not support the legislature that bans companies ordering employees to Vax up.

Kristi Noem is still “fighting” to hold a July 4 celebration.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 24, 2021 10:30 AM (CX3cf)

134 Mass immigration is the only problem, and conservatism not only is doing and saying nothing against it, it still supports it. The media has made it a sort of religious suicide cult.

Posted by: JohnB

It's an element, to be certain, but it only became one because of the ongoing infiltration.

One thing we have to do is not come up with ideas that let ourselves off the hook. We took our eye off the ball. A lot of our putative fellow citizens went for the lies. We have to accept and deal with those facts if we have any chance of responding effectively.

Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at August 24, 2021 10:30 AM (OUMaO)

135 ok, back to the tw@@ts...

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:30 AM (DJFLF)

136 In fairness to MP4, that is not what I said. I advocate for a general strike and mass-scale protest. That could turn into what he said depending on response, but it is not the position I advocate.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 24, 2021 10:30 AM (Jsjd7)

137 I contend the Taliban did not kick our ass in the least. We are the guy in the bar that kicked the shit out of the loud mouth bully and decided afterwards to go home. Just because the beaten bully decides to run his mouth again after you are walking out the door doesn't mean he beat you. He only survived.
Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (2DOZq)

Yeah, but you left and he still lives in the bar.
We can win gunfights against the Taliban, we've been hunting them for decades. What we clearly can't do is kick him out and make him unwelcome.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:30 AM (V6f9+)

138 Conservatives abandoned the profession of education decades ago for higher paying positions

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Accidentally making our Marxism point for us.

Median individual teacher salary nationwide: ~$62K

Median household income nationwide: Guess. Go ahead. Guess.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (oxVgP)

139 >>They have a model that has successfully kicked the asses of the Russians and now us.

Hiding in a Goat Ass and only come out when your enemies withdraw from the battlefield is not a Successful Military Strategy.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (g83UR)

140 In a crowd of hotties, she'd barely get any attention.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:29 AM (LvTSG)

I usually don't engage in the numerical scale assessment of a female's hotness...but in Noem's case she has demonstrated that she is an unreliable FRAUD and therefore fair game.

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (DJFLF)

141 Andy Cuomo grants clemency to David Gilbert, wheel man for the Weather Underground Brinks job...

Guess Chesa Boudin can finally have some quality time with Daddy since Daddy had dropped him off at a baby sitter's before going to steal $1.6 million and murder a few people.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (lq8As)

142 We have no Lech Walesas.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Alea iacta est at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (iACZp)

143 Over 70 million people legitimately voted against the Left. We are not a minority.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (2DOZq)

144 Kristi Noem has said she will not support the legislature that bans companies ordering employees to Vax up.
Posted by: Megthered at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM

(pats Noem on head) Good girl!

Posted by: The CoC at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (EughT)

145 How the F does a "general strike" work in a country like ours? Does your lawyer strike and blow a mandatory deadline? Your doctor cancel your surgery? Your contractor cancel a repair and you have a non-cancelable inspection coming up? That medicine you need that's not being delivered. Seriously? "General strike" is nonsensical jargon in a country like this. So many here at AOS are freaking chained to their modern entertainments and devices. Then there are mortgages and loans to pay, let alone taxes. Get real.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (KAi1n)

146 "Goat Ass", lol

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (DJFLF)

147 >Lots of vids out there of school board meetings where parents are fighting mask mandates and CRT.

Also, medical professionals resisting jab mandate. Nurses and others in medical community will walk rather than submit.
Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:17 AM (DJFLF)

That's a great point. There is actual resistance, but it's very hard for the word to get out, because it gets embargoed by the MSM and suppressed by social media. It's difficult to get a real grassroots rebellion sparked when the media has firehoses at the ready to douse any news that could help the cause.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 10:32 AM (DXFDM)

148 115 You can see how this is done. There are lots of small, insular groups that have been cohesive throughout history: the Jews, the Amish, lots of smaller religious denominations. They set themselves outside the mainstream culture, raise families and try to live together in areas where they can somewhat control outside influence.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 24, 2021 10:27 AM (5HBd1)
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The Jews are a great example if you want to find a small group that somehow manages to work its way to the top of nearly every culturally important institution.

Maybe we should figure out what they're doing.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 24, 2021 10:32 AM (7YLZ1)

149 ok, back to the tw@@ts...
Posted by: kallisto

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Posted by: JT at August 24, 2021 10:32 AM (arJlL)

150 I contend the Taliban did not kick our ass in the least. We are the guy in the bar that kicked the shit out of the loud mouth bully and decided afterwards to go home. Just because the beaten bully decides to run his mouth again after you are walking out the door doesn't mean he beat you. He only survived.
Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (2DOZq)

Canada's Chief of the Defense Staff, Rick Hillier, was speaking with a Taliban commander years ago. In the midst of huge Taliban losses during the Afghan War, he told Hillier "you have the watches, but we have the time."

Sums it up for me.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 24, 2021 10:32 AM (mdjgu)

151 148
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Whoops I have been informed that I am now on a list for Noticing Things That Cannot Be Noticed.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 24, 2021 10:32 AM (7YLZ1)

152 To deny that there is OBJECTIVE TRUTH is the only philosophical premise of post-modernity and of Marxism.

Everything expressed after that is ill will. It only sees truth in bad faith. This premise doesn't believe things to be true, it only believes that your belief in truth is how to enslave you, control you or destroy you.

There is no good in them. They are anathema.

Posted by: Minuteman at August 24, 2021 10:32 AM (LaNzR)

153 "General strike" is nonsensical jargon in a country like this.

I disagree. I've been advocating for this a long time, back in the 0bamanation times.

But there was still much complacency then.

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:33 AM (DJFLF)

154 We've been over this repeatedly. Wealthy people do not pay normal income taxes. Your odds of rigging a tax system to go after the wealthiest is basically 0. It's like thinking that regulations exist to restrain big corporations rather than enhancing their profit margins.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (z5Vrg)

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You're repeating the leftist myth that rich people don't pay taxes. Tax Bezos' income, his wealth, his dividends, tax it all. But this is my point. The second this is brought up, someone here will jump in with muhConservativePrinciples that high taxes on billionaires is wrong cuz reasons.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 24, 2021 10:33 AM (GQ5VU)

155 Excellent piece Mr. Mannix. Your hair on the other hand......

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Alea iacta est at August 24, 2021 10:33 AM (iACZp)

156 The other day there was a post on Civil Disobedience (CD).

Imagine the turmoil that would unfold if next April 15th a huge segment of the population simply refused to file their taxes on time and asked for an extension. Or simply refused to file, period. There's nowhere near enough IRS agents to tackle something like that.

Same for local and state taxes. Bleed the Academics dry.

Money changes everything.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 24, 2021 10:33 AM (BFigT)

157 >>The Jews are a great example if you want to find a small group that somehow manages to work its way to the top of nearly every culturally important institution.

Someone get some rain on this guy.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2021 10:33 AM (g83UR)

158 They would not have been able to do much with the Russians if it was not for Reagan's investment into the Taliban - weapons and more weapons. Training, assistance.

Posted by: runner at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (w45mR)

159 Off Mittens sock

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (GQ5VU)

160 Mujahideen baby.

Posted by: runner at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (w45mR)

161 Median household income nationwide: Guess. Go ahead. Guess.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (oxVgP)

$48,000.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (aaUwX)

162 Biden says women can do anything men do. Why is there a women's basketball league then?

Posted by: f'd at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (Tnijr)

163 What could work is a general SPENDING strike. If 50 M people decided to not buy anything for a week, it would send a pretty strong message.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (GQ5VU)

164 I live in a small town in a farming community in Oregon. Every field i drive by is in pitiful shape compared to years past. I am not a farmer, but I am very observant....I think we are going g to have a massive food shortage in a few months.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (t/KyR)

165 Andy & Brandy Tifa sure as $hit aren't worrying about whether xhe can provide for Junior as they set our cities on fire.

Posted by: Dark Helmet

Don't mean shit if your kids are turned on you.

Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (OUMaO)

166 Is the Northern Alliance reforming?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (yQpMk)

167 muhConservativePrinciples, which have been beaten into you for the past 50 years by the likes of National Review and Hannity.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (GQ5VU)

I am not sure I get this. My problem with Bezos is he is trying to control information. His tax rate means nothing to me because I assume it will be wasted either way.

I get many assume the net leaders are written in stone for some reason. They were decided on a certain day and it will always be thus. I think our chances are to prove this will go down. The majority do not agree and mostly they do not care. WE are fighting on their battlefield. Really, the answer is to look elswhere. They own this and at best we can counter them. But the way to win is to ignore their rules, to challenge them on political battlefields they have never imagined.

Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (ZS6f0)

168
PA Gov hasn't been his usual COVIDictatorial self. I guess the spring referendum kind of cooled his tyrannical tool.
Posted by: kallisto

Leftists and statists that I know in PA are super pissed off about his wings having been clipped.

"Meanie Republicans won't play our game!" they wail.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 24, 2021 10:35 AM (pNxlR)

169 I had a sneaking suspicion that the numbers that State spox trotted out were not really all American evacuees:

https://tinyurl.com/4hwknwjt

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:35 AM (DJFLF)

170 Feh, Trump shilling for the clot shot has gravely damaged him in my eyes. I get that he's a germaphobe, but he could have just kept his damned mouth shut on that topic. After all that he's been put through, for him to lend any legitimacy to the narrative of the ruling class is the height of stupidity and fecklessness. He needs to ride off into the sunset instead of trying to feed his massive ego some more.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 10:29 AM (DXFDM)

And who would you like to replace him? He's promoted the vaccine and he has promoted our right to not get it it. As it should be.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 10:35 AM (G2zl5)

171 Maybe we should figure out what they're doing.

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Circumspection ?

Posted by: runner at August 24, 2021 10:35 AM (w45mR)

172 Marching makes my knees ache.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 24, 2021 10:35 AM (ecYxZ)

173 Last is the political process itself. Never mind that 2020 shows that elections don't matter when you can bribe poll workers to stuff ballots for your preferred candidate in the middle of the night. The whole point of representative politics is that they're supposed to be the foot soldiers in the war of ideas so that most people can just worry about their day-to-day lives. Our own politicians have been sold out so they can "save the world," and for all this big talk about destroying the Republican party, no one is willing to provide the financial, logistical, and legal work to actually make a new party that actually represents our own ideas.

So compared to previous generations, we have fewer opportunities to buy a house that's not crammed with disruptive neighbors, have to be hypervigilant about having enough money to stay afloat (and that all assumes that the dollar will remain the reserve currency), we have to effective run our own political campaigns because the people we "hired" to do it are actively working against our own interests, and we have to expend many hours and toil just to have our spouses and children not hate and denounce us thanks to the unceasing propaganda.

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at August 24, 2021 10:35 AM (HK8/E)

174 How has that Bush Crime Family tool, Colon Bowel, escaped any culpability for Afghanistan? Wasn't he the genius who came up with "you broke it you bought it"?

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at August 24, 2021 10:35 AM (y7DUB)

175 Sums it up for me.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 24, 2021 10:32 AM (mdjgu)

I figured it would always turn out that way . The only way it wouldn't is genocide on our part. You could say the same thing about Korea for the first 30 or 40 years after the war if we hadn't remained.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (2DOZq)

176 Median household income nationwide: Guess. Go ahead. Guess.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (oxVgP)

$48,000.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Try $65,712 as of '19.

Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (OUMaO)

177 You're repeating the leftist myth that rich people don't pay taxes. Tax Bezos' income, his wealth, his dividends, tax it all. But this is my point. The second this is brought up, someone here will jump in with muhConservativePrinciples that high taxes on billionaires is wrong cuz reasons.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 24, 2021 10:33 AM (GQ5VU)

What Works: Breaking up Amazon

What doesn't Work: Taxing Bezo's income. Bezos has an annual salary of 80k. Amazon doesn't even pay dividends.

The above is not secret people.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (z5Vrg)

178 >>I had a sneaking suspicion that the numbers that State spox trotted out were not really all American evacuees:

Hell no they aren't. They'd prefer to leave the Americans there and bring back nothing but Afghanis.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (g83UR)

179 OP in a nutshell:

"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles."

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (DXFDM)

180 Note Kurt actually said something that makes sense here.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM

Noted. Blind squirrel...pumpkin...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (m+jkK)

181 137
We can win gunfights against the Taliban, we've been hunting them for decades. What we clearly can't do is kick him out and make him unwelcome.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:30 AM (V6f9+)
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To make the Taliban unwelcome, you must fundamentally transform the culture of Afghanistan. Liberalism took hundreds of years to turn the West into a Post-Christian society; we're not going to turn Afghanistan into a Post-Islam society in twenty years, especially when we're constant tripping over ourselves to point out how great Islam is and how we'd never say a bad word about any Muslims ever.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (7YLZ1)

182 Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 24, 2021 10:35 AM (pNxlR)

you're in DE, right? Your gov has been surprisingly reasonable througout this whole ordeal.

Also, did you know DE has one of the lowest 'ro transmission rates currently?

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (DJFLF)

183
Andy Cuomo grants clemency to ~~David Gilbert, wheel man for the Weather Underground Brinks job...~~ the murderer of Peter Paige, Edward O'Grady and Waverly Brown.

If you name him and don't name his victims, you're killing them a second time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (/U27+)

184 Imagine the turmoil that would unfold if next April 15th a huge segment of the population simply refused to file their taxes on time and asked for an extension. Or simply refused to file, period. There's nowhere near enough IRS agents to tackle something like that.

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It's a good idea if taxes still mattered, but they don't. They're punitive, and that would be handled no differently. Your name would go on a list, you'd be sent a warning and a fine, and the government wouldn't slow down one single bit as they churned through imaginary trillions as needed.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (oxVgP)

185 Median individual teacher salary nationwide: ~$62K

Median household income nationwide: Guess. Go ahead. Guess.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (oxVgP)

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It is a lot more than $62K when you add in the extremely generous benefits and early retirement. Plus 3-4 months vacation. Total comp when taking all that into account is more like $80-90K median, which is significantly higher than the national median.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (GQ5VU)

186 What could work is a general SPENDING strike. If 50 M people decided to not buy anything for a week, it would send a pretty strong message.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (GQ5VU)
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Something I hadn't considered. That might cause some damage, too - but only if it leads to a new, lower baseline.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (Jsjd7)

187 The long march was a foreign government (or maybe communism in multiple forms) using its powerful influence and assets to weaken USA (and the free West) by subversive infiltration, and "greater good" rhetoric.

Our government also tries to control the masses with many of the same tactics, working as Americans, but still seeking centralized power.

So The Masses versus BigGov is a different "War", and other cabals are now playing the influence game, namely BigCorp, Globalist Foundations/entities, IMF type globalist governing bodies, and countries acting as Criminal Enterprises (China, Russia, etc.) or Caliphate wannabees (Turkey, Iran, ?).

Culture is Upstream maybe, hence they had to demand we not go to church or any other face to face meetings, while they continue to meet ... UnMasked. Strikes will hurt the commoners first and foremost ... I see dead people (as the better answer, when that time comes ... I'll be here in the country watching)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 24, 2021 10:37 AM (Cus5s)

188 Home Despot sucks.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2021 10:37 AM (KAi1n)

189 Good Citizens are chumps.
They need us more than we need them.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) won't participate at August 24, 2021 10:25 AM (yQpMk)

Excellent point.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 24, 2021 10:37 AM (R/m4+)

190 They are Borg. They are Legion. They fall in line. They are capable of cognitive dissonance. Their hatred binds them together as does their will to power.

We aren't those things.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 24, 2021 10:37 AM (IytoW)

191 Try $65,712 as of '19.
Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (OUMaO)

That is majority two-income families, right?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:37 AM (yQpMk)

192 166 Is the Northern Alliance reforming?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (yQpMk)

So I hear. Should be some warlordism coming back as a result of deals the Taliban made.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:37 AM (V6f9+)

193 Over 70 million people legitimately voted against the Left. We are not a minority.
Posted by: Just a side note

Agreed, but we are subject to the Pareto principle in regards to how many are willing to throw down and make sacrifices that likely will have painful consequences.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Alea iacta est at August 24, 2021 10:37 AM (iACZp)

194 So shorten the "long march" into right now. Take back our country forcibly.

You do realize that it's incumbent for succeeding generations to continue the work that those who came before us did to ensure the Republic lives on?

The Declaration of Independence makes this quite clear.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 24, 2021 10:38 AM (KATBx)

195 Stand corrected. Data I remembered was 10 years old

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2021 10:38 AM (aaUwX)

196 The saddest part of all this is that the minorities will continue to suffer and decline in wealth, power, meritocracy as a result. Claiming math is racist will only get you a job in San Francisco as Chinese contractors build our bridges and buildings.

Posted by: SmileyGG at August 24, 2021 10:38 AM (3w9Fm)

197 Is the Northern Alliance reforming?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:34 AM (yQpMk)

i hope so. It might be just the French and British. But i would love for there to be a place in Afghanistan that resists and holds out hope. F the enemy, and if there is a place of freedom it will always be a thorn in their sides. I hope people support it but the West should do it with drones and fighters that want to go in.

Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 10:39 AM (ZS6f0)

198 They are Borg. They are Legion. They fall in line. They are capable of cognitive dissonance. Their hatred binds them together as does their will to power.

We aren't those things.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 24, 2021 10:37 AM (IytoW)

Their mission statement and life philosophy is The Ends Justify the Means.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:39 AM (2DOZq)

199 we're not going to turn Afghanistan into a Post-Islam society in twenty years, especially when we're constant tripping over ourselves to point out how great Islam is and how we'd never say a bad word about any Muslims ever.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (7YLZ1)

Yep, we literally ceded the moral high ground when we refused to name and shame Islam.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:39 AM (V6f9+)

200 What doesn't Work: Taxing Bezo's income. Bezos has an annual salary of 80k. Amazon doesn't even pay dividends.

The above is not secret people.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 10:36 AM (z5Vrg)

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Why are you so fixated on income taxes only? There are 1000 ways to tax Bezos. The most obvious is a wealth tax nice round 1% a year. And capital gains. When he sells Amazon shares, tax that shit at 50%.

bbbbbbut bbbbbut he will have all sorts of lawyers who will figure out a way to minimize those taxes. Yeah he will. And then next year you write laws to ban those loopholes. And so on.

Your argument is that if something doesn't work 100%, you don't even try. The exact argument leftists make against a wall. Oh people can climb over the wall so it isn't 100% effective so don't build it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:39 AM (GQ5VU)

201 Why is there a women's basketball league then?

Is there? Today? I think there might be a WINO basketball league, but even that’s likely to be degraded soon. Women are the lowest rung of the left’s ladder.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 24, 2021 10:39 AM (CX3cf)

202 Adults in charge!!!!1111!!!!

https://tinyurl.com/4abr95ns

Posted by: naturalfake at August 24, 2021 10:39 AM (Xo5lP)

203 138 Conservatives abandoned the profession of education decades ago for higher paying positions

that's if you accept the present definition of eduacation

I perfer to think cons gravitated to a more honest way of making a buck

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 10:40 AM (uCLWI)

204 Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:39 AM (GQ5VU)

Your plan will put me in the poor house too. No thanks.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:41 AM (2DOZq)

205 That is majority two-income families, right?

Posted by: G'rump928(c)

I would presume so. Single-income would naturally break lower. $48k as a household income would be in the bottom five of US states, only three states worse.

Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at August 24, 2021 10:41 AM (OUMaO)

206 Conservative people should start accomplishing small things and keep track of them. Get friends and neighbors who share similar values. Start breaking through others' mental fortresses one at a time. Use individualism to your advantage.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2021 10:41 AM (KAi1n)

207 I think that the comments here pretty much illustrate a basic problem of our side... we are like an old time Irish Army. Or put another way we are not Borg - like enough to fight the Borg.

Posted by: kraken at August 24, 2021 10:41 AM (6Je/Q)

208 Household income doesn't mean family income. A 1 person household can exist. A single person living alone is a household. And so is a family of 5 where everyone works.

So that number is kind of fucked up because it adds up a lot of different scenarios and throws them all together.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:41 AM (GQ5VU)

209 Over 70 million people legitimately voted against the Left. We are not a minority.
Posted by: Just a side note

they run the cities, and that is true in red states like Texas. When you run the cities, you have a lot of power over the powerless. You can use them to your own aims. Look at the Left today that flat out refutes the law when it pisses them off. If Repubs did this, it would be called an insurrection.

Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 10:41 AM (ZS6f0)

210 One small thing you can do that I've suggested before.

Whatever field you are in, whatever level you are at, try to only hire conservatives if you can.

Strongly leftist people WILL tell you their views. Find a way then to turn them down - but obviously don't claim their political views.

And conservatives are harder to sniff out - but no political stuff, married, kids, involved in religion, etc are all potentially markers.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 24, 2021 10:42 AM (DpkTQ)

211 One thing to always keep in mind;

Marxists hate capitalism, but they really LOVE money

Posted by: kbdabear at August 24, 2021 10:42 AM (qAR6u)

212 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 24, 2021 10:42 AM (IXZGh)

213 Why are you so fixated on income taxes only? There are 1000 ways to tax Bezos. The most obvious is a wealth tax nice round 1% a year. And capital gains. When he sells Amazon shares, tax that shit at 50%.
e wall so it isn't 100% effective so don't build it.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:39 AM (GQ5VU)

Wealth taxes are far more reasonable than income taxes which is why I didn't address them. However, quite obviously that doesn't solve the Bezos problem as effectively as seizures or breaking up Amazon.

Capital gains is pretty easy to avoid through "monetization" strategies. The left(New York Times for example) focuses on income taxes primarily though.

Overall thinking that we can take down Bezos et al. by tweaking the tax code is a pipe dream though. Much more direct targetting is needed.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 10:43 AM (z5Vrg)

214 Besides, public turmoil is what the Left wants. Why give it to them?

Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2021 10:43 AM (KAi1n)

215 Hiding in a Goat Ass and only come out when your enemies withdraw from the battlefield is not a Successful Military Strategy.
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2021 10:31 AM (g83UR)

Ok, that is funny.
But it IS successful. We're seeing it succeed.
Retreat when the enemy advances and advance when they retreat is basic Sun Tzu.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:43 AM (V6f9+)

216 "...if My people who are called by My name humble themselves, and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land."

2 Chronicles 7:14

Posted by: Emmie at August 24, 2021 10:43 AM (6RgRK)

217 Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 10:39 AM (ZS6f0)

We should have made Bagram a permanent base IMHO. It would be useful beyond Afghanistan.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:43 AM (2DOZq)

218 @Joe Mannix-"Conservatives have spent twenty-years already just trying to subvert our home turf; the Republican Party."

I am the oldest mf'er here at AoS. I remember back in the last century the GOP/Republican Party f'ing over conservatism and conservatives at the 76' Republican Convention never mind previous years with Goldwater. Who was Reagan battling in the 80's besides Democrat Tip O'Neill? Republican Bob Michels. Yep, the 1900's, 65' to be precise conservatives have been trying to infiltrate but I guess when you're younger than a 53 year old that lived in the last century "history" begins at a different time.

Posted by: JROD at August 24, 2021 10:44 AM (0jZnq)

219 Sorry about that rant, but all these posts about how it's all "our fault" that "we ceded ground" just reek of the boostrap-ism that communists use to straw man abdicating actual effort.

In the end, most people want to raise their children, visit their families, and work toward making the future a little bit better. Not many people will give up their jobs, their families, their homes to fight a suicide mission, even if the end result is that everyone is happier for it.

People want to know their sacrifices will actually mean something and that their work won't be instantly subverted by "leaders" who pretended to actually care about them as human beings instead of carrying out the Post-Modern Stasi tactics. Whether it's a company, a political party, a church, people need that groundswell of trust.

Outside this blog, I don't really have that bound community. I really don't know who would stick out for me and who would throw me to the wolves the instant life becomes the tiniest bit uncomfortable. It's an awful feeling to have.

Posted by: Homer's Donuts at August 24, 2021 10:44 AM (HK8/E)

220 So... Asking the hard question no one else is asking...

When does Joe get his own primate avatar?

Posted by: Oddbob at August 24, 2021 10:45 AM (nfrXX)

221 Bill Kristol endorses McAuliffe, I can't believe I use to admire this ASS. Did any of them really believe what they said.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 24, 2021 10:45 AM (dKiJG)

222 And conservatives are harder to sniff out - but no political stuff, married, kids, involved in religion, etc are all potentially markers.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 24, 2021 10:42 AM (DpkTQ)

I don't think you're allowed to ask that kind of stuff in an interview. And even if you can, I probably wouldn't because if you decline someone they could probably claim that you didn't hire them for their religion and get your company into problems.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 10:45 AM (pC4Am)

223 One thing to always keep in mind;

Marxists hate capitalism, but they really LOVE money
Posted by: kbdabear

Trained Marxists love Capitalism because they have always viewed and used it as acceleration into Communism.
And they aren't exactly wrong...

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 24, 2021 10:45 AM (c2XlY)

224 @CNN 6m

President Joe Biden has decided, in consultation with his national security team, to stick with the August 31 deadline for withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, according to a senior administration official.

Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2021 10:45 AM (cF8AT)

225 It took them 50+ years to do their long march while the Right was asleep at the wheel.

How long would a march back take when they WON'T be asleep at the wheel?

Posted by: doesky2 at August 24, 2021 10:45 AM (2CzUU)

226 Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 10:41 AM (ZS6f0)

I'm referring to all the camps talk.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:45 AM (2DOZq)

227 Kristie Noem will be on an hour long radio townhall tomorrow, Aug 25.
1100 The Flag (am station)
What's On Your Mind 9:00 am to 11:00 am

Posted by: old chick at August 24, 2021 10:46 AM (sOete)

228 >And who would you like to replace him? He's promoted the vaccine and he has promoted our right to not get it it. As it should be.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 10:35 AM (G2zl5)

If POTUS elections actually mattered, I would happily back DeathSantis for now. He seems to be a refined version of Trump. But they don't, so he should stick to being governor for as long as he can, and then keep working within the local power structure in FL, where he actually has a chance of affecting change.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 10:46 AM (DXFDM)

229 Our side respects individuality, the rule of law, freedom and the liberty to fail or make it as we see fit. This is anathema to the left.

I won't go quietly and I won't go along with this modern version of old fashioned tyranny.

Posted by: Jak Sucio / Pronouns: Get Fvcked at August 24, 2021 10:46 AM (jvt6t)

230 224 @CNN 6m

President Joe Biden has decided, in consultation with his national security team, to stick with the August 31 deadline for withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, according to a senior administration official.
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2021 10:45 AM (cF8AT)

=========

He's showing the Taliban who's in charge.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:46 AM (LvTSG)

231 There is no reason to expect that deadline will hold.

Posted by: f'd at August 24, 2021 10:46 AM (Tnijr)

232 And it's not so much conservatives "abandoned" teaching as it was that people used their talents. Almost anyone can be a teacher, and that's fine. But people who could do more and pursue other things did more and pursued other things.

The teachers figured out that they could be a voting bloc with little interest in teaching or the welfare of the children they're suppose to teach, and here we are.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 24, 2021 10:46 AM (oxVgP)

233 President Joe Biden has decided, in consultation with his national security team, to stick with the August 31 deadline for withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, according to a senior administration official.

***

Wait, how is he able to even have this discussion if Trump's agreement was concrete?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - (BMWRT) The CDC is still stating that the vaccine will keep you from getting COVID at August 24, 2021 10:47 AM (oxVgP)

234 President Joe Biden has decided, in consultation with his national security team, to stick with the August 31 deadline for withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, according to a senior administration official.
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2021 10:45 AM (cF8AT)

so the Taliban couldn't be bought off

the unkindest cut of all

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 10:47 AM (uCLWI)

235 The moral groundwork for a 'just war' would require lawful authority to implement a purge of Chilean levels, if not more. But we are very very unlikely to get lawful authority to issue that command.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:28 AM (V6f9+)

I agree that "lawful" authority is unlikely to solve the problem, but that why understanding the moral motivations- your motivations- becomes imperative.

Posted by: trev006 at August 24, 2021 10:47 AM (5oGIm)

236 225 It took them 50+ years to do their long march while the Right was asleep at the wheel.

How long would a march back take when they WON'T be asleep at the wheel?

Posted by: doesky2 at August 24, 2021 10:45 AM (2CzUU)

Exactly. We can't fix this within the system/rules.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 10:48 AM (z5Vrg)

237 If POTUS elections actually mattered, I would happily back DeathSantis for now. He seems to be a refined version of Trump. But they don't, so he should stick to being governor for as long as he can, and then keep working within the local power structure in FL, where he actually has a chance of affecting change.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 10:46 AM (DXF

Pretty sure DeSantis has promoted the vaccines just like Trump.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 10:48 AM (pC4Am)

238
you're in DE, right? Your gov has been surprisingly reasonable througout this whole ordeal.

For a time there in the beginning, he was in bed with the PA and NJ regarding dictates. He has been slower to jump back in the restrict and lock down camp since January.

Wawa stores here just posted signs saying "masks for everybody." When I was in one this AM, only about 1/4 of the customers were complying and there was no one playing hall monitor and chastising those who were not complying.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 24, 2021 10:48 AM (pNxlR)

239 210 Some states don't allow discrimination because of a potential employee's politics. A good workaround might be their college major. Anyone who majored in "(grievance) studies" is not our friend.

Posted by: jdgalt1 at August 24, 2021 10:48 AM (3SFo/)

240 Journalism Majors thank the god they don't believe in everyday for Education Majors keeping them off the bottom of the Entering Freshman SAT list.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at August 24, 2021 10:48 AM (yQpMk)

241 Particularly apt is this comment from Iowahawk

https://tinyurl.com/3zjnp7pb

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 24, 2021 10:48 AM (Fkqbx)

242 Ah yes taxes and the rich don't pay their fair share. I do think it would be good if all income was taxed the same. Taxing earned income/salary at over twice the rate of capital gains seems designed to limit how much work the skilled class will do. Taxing wealth is already being done. Most people's biggest pot of wealth is their house, maybe a rental property. They pay substantial wealth taxes on that asses to their state.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply Irredeemable at August 24, 2021 10:49 AM (pxVvf)

243 Sort of hard to be Rebellious when someone is consumed by the desire to be " liked". "We" are Media driven and image conscious.

Posted by: kraken at August 24, 2021 10:49 AM (6Je/Q)

244 Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 10:46 AM (DXFDM)

I only respond to people i think are arguing in good faith.

Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 10:49 AM (ZS6f0)

245 Pretty sure DeSantis has promoted the vaccines just like Trump.
======

It's one thing to promote. It's entirely another to mandate/punish/ostracize.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 24, 2021 10:50 AM (IytoW)

246 President Joe Biden has decided, in consultation with his national security team, to stick with the August 31 deadline for withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, according to a senior administration official.
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2021 10:45 AM (cF8AT)

=========

He's showing the Taliban who's in charge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:46 AM (LvTSG)

#OneWeek

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:50 AM (V6f9+)

247 This one is worse than Rasmussen's...

@Politics_Polls

Biden Job Approval:
Approve 41%
Disapprove 55%

https://tinyurl.com/yfcd9rnv

Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2021 10:50 AM (cF8AT)

248 247 @Politics_Polls

Biden Job Approval:
Approve 41%
Disapprove 55%

https://tinyurl.com/yfcd9rnv
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2021 10:50 AM (cF8AT)

===========

Please let voting mean something next year...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:50 AM (LvTSG)

249 Biden Job Approval:
Approve 41%
Disapprove 55%

The voters got what they wanted, good and hard.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at August 24, 2021 10:51 AM (yQpMk)

250 I blame Alan Simpson. Glad he admitted F'ing up. Actually, i liked him, except on that.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 24, 2021 10:51 AM (KAi1n)

251 Once possible solution is to refrain, as much as possible, from participating in the institutions that have become toxic and polluted. Disconnect from the state controlled media. Create large - scale home school co-ops. Pull your money from the banks and park it off shore, under the mattress, or somewhere it can't be touched. Grow food. And don't buy or sell. Find people who share your values and barter. Create a system for trading goods and services with one another that functions outside the current economy.

Posted by: E. A. Blair at August 24, 2021 10:51 AM (7l4Sy)

252 Joe at 41 at USA today

still too fucking high

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 10:51 AM (uCLWI)

253 I remember back in the last century the GOP/Republican Party f'ing over conservatism and conservatives at the 76' Republican Convention never mind previous years with Goldwater.

Yeah. For all that the left railed against the Nixon/Ford administration, you have to look at what he actually did. He was the high water mark by far of leftism among Republican party presidents, with the possible exception of Teddy Roosevelt.

Since Reagan, Republican candidates have had to at least pay lip service to being against wage/price controls, appeasing communism, increasing spending on welfare, the EPA, universal fucking health care… the list goes on of the things Nixon actually supported.

We talk a lot about what Reagan didn’t get done despite his rhetoric. But not so much about what Reagan was pulling the Republican Party back from.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 24, 2021 10:52 AM (CX3cf)

254 He's showing the Taliban who's in charge.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:46 AM (LvTSG)

true

Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 10:52 AM (ZS6f0)

255 In fairness to MP4, that is not what I said. I advocate for a general strike and mass-scale protest. That could turn into what he said depending on response, but it is not the position I advocate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 24, 2021 10:30 AM (Jsjd7)

My mistake, then, Joe, and a misreading of your most excellent post. As many here know, I tend to go for the most extreme solution first.

Apologies.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 24, 2021 10:52 AM (2JVJo)

256 Who is John Gault!!

Posted by: Rick554 at August 24, 2021 10:52 AM (FmOIw)

257 Next year?

To hell with next year! I'm hoping the implosion in support for Democrats scares the crap out of the socialists trying to pass bills in the House right now, today.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 24, 2021 10:52 AM (Fkqbx)

258
President Joe Biden has decided, in consultation with his national security team, to stick with the August 31 deadline for withdrawing troops from Afghanistan, according to a senior administration official.
Posted by: Tami

It is infuriatingly amusing that he thought he had reserved for us any maneuvering room after his colossal fuck ups in A'stan. "What are you gonna do, big marshmallow man -- cut and run from other there instead of from over here?"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 24, 2021 10:52 AM (pNxlR)

259 Will someone summarize Joe's point in 2-3 sentences foe me please? Thanks
Posted by: runner

We're fucked. Five day forecast: fucked fucked fucked fucked fucked. Between a rock and a hard place. Up shit creek without a paddle.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 24, 2021 10:52 AM (d9FiS)

260 Plugs is at 30%.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2021 10:52 AM (aaUwX)

261 119 73 Lol
Conservatives abandoned the profession of education decades ago for higher paying positions

Posted by: Kurt at August 24, 2021 10:21 AM (ROoJl)

Note Kurt actually said something that makes sense here.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional
__________

School teachers started believing that education was a "profession" and the result was dimwits like Dr. Jill Biden, Ed.D.

Posted by: Furious George at August 24, 2021 10:52 AM (9vQJW)

262 So shorten the "long march" into right now. Take back our country forcibly.

You do realize that it's incumbent for succeeding generations to continue the work that those who came before us did to ensure the Republic lives on?

The Declaration of Independence makes this quite clear.
Posted by: irongrampa

Very much in agreement IG, however that is a razor thin line to walk. Violent response, IMO, has two possible outcomes. If the military splits into factions then CW will probably result. If they don't participate, then it dissolves into a dystopian struggle for survival. If it's the former, I will fight to salvage the values that made this country great. If it's the latter, I will fight for my tribe and everyone not of my tribe is the enemy.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Alea iacta est at August 24, 2021 10:53 AM (iACZp)

263 245 Pretty sure DeSantis has promoted the vaccines just like Trump.
======
It's one thing to promote. It's entirely another to mandate/punish/ostracize.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 24, 2021 10:50 AM (IytoW)

There is. His point was that Trump is damaged for "shilling" for the vaccine. Well so has DeSantis. Neither has pushed for mandates/punishment to those that don't.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 10:53 AM (G2zl5)

264 Who is John Gault!!

A French protester?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 10:53 AM (yQpMk)

265 It is more a spiritual battle than a battle of ideas or activism. Which isn't to say that ideas or activism are useless.

Only that our country first needs a spiritual awakening, and then from that proceeds successful spread of ideas and activism to try to avoid the death camps, etc.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at August 24, 2021 10:53 AM (GD2xa)

266 >People want to know their sacrifices will actually mean something and that their work won't be instantly subverted by "leaders" who pretended to actually care about them as human beings instead of carrying out the Post-Modern Stasi tactics. Whether it's a company, a political party, a church, people need that groundswell of trust.

Outside this blog, I don't really have that bound community. I really don't know who would stick out for me and who would throw me to the wolves the instant life becomes the tiniest bit uncomfortable. It's an awful feeling to have.
Posted by: Homer's Donuts at August 24, 2021 10:44 AM (HK8/E)

Well said. I've said before the part of the problem is that no one wants to stick their neck out because we have no network of support at all. The left has all kinds of NGOs, bail funds, lawyers at the ready, etc to back their players...and we don't have shit. We also are quite compromised organizationally, as we have seen quite well in the last five years. Who wants to be the man to throw their life away for an effort that goes over like a popcorn fart in church?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 10:53 AM (DXFDM)

267 This one is worse than Rasmussen's...
@Politics_Polls

Biden Job Approval:
Approve 41% Disapprove 55%

https://tinyurl.com/yfcd9rnv
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2021 10:50 AM (cF8AT)
I think the pollsters are doing the bidding of Harris and her handlers and camp followers. The fix is in.
She went to Vietnam for only one reason--to "burnish" her foreign policy credentials. That's it.
No way would they allow Joe's polling to look this bad if they weren't trying to grease the skids for Kamala.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 24, 2021 10:53 AM (mR6Gs)

268 259 Will someone summarize Joe's point in 2-3 sentences foe me please? Thanks
Posted by: runner

We're fucked. Five day forecast: fucked fucked fucked fucked fucked. Between a rock and a hard place. Up shit creek without a paddle.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 24, 2021 10:52 AM (d9FiS)

Lolol!!!!

Posted by: kraken at August 24, 2021 10:53 AM (6Je/Q)

269 so the Taliban couldn't be bought off

the unkindest cut of all
Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 10:47 AM (uCLWI)

Military will need three days to evacuate so that leaves four days left for civilians.

Redstate reporting that only 4,700 Americans have been airlifted out so far out of the 10k? 15k? still there.

They're going to be left behind.

Imagine the sight of that last plane and chopper leaving, and your stranded there. Your President abandoned you for his self righteous ego.

Posted by: WisRich at August 24, 2021 10:54 AM (G0vdT)

270 I was playing tennis next to women playing doubles. When they were finished they were Karening about Abbott and his mask policy. Usually I keep my mouth shut but I told them a mask is basically useless against a virus and only a talisman. I told them to read the manufacturer's disclaimer. All I got from them was ' yes it does' . I said 'you go with that' and walked away.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:54 AM (2DOZq)

271 Regarding vaccines.. My Niece just got covid and she had the shot months ago.... Either it doesn't work or it promotes the disease crazy as that sounds

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2021 10:54 AM (I2VcN)

272 Joe, this is a tour de force of an essay, and should be republished at Substack, Townhall, American Thinker, Federalist, Quillette, and American Greatness.

You've laid out everything I've long been thinking about regarding the idea of good people trying to infiltrate bad organizations and subvert them for Good. As I've analogized, perhaps poorly, a fresh apple doesn't make the whole barrel of spoiled apples fresh, Tom Brady being the rare exception. And there's no such thing as cold blue fire that will un-burn ash into a tree -- that sort of reverse entropy is an impossibility. The forces of evil are indeed a consuming, burning, destroying fire; they are rotten fruit which can only rot, and good fruit cannot "un-rot". So much so that it's not even a word.

We can't join Planned Parenthood or the Church of Satan or the Uniparty and think we can do what they did, only in reverse.

The only answer to the impossibility of renewal is Jesus Christ and a revival that is so massive it can't be stopped. And I confess I don't know how to make that happen, but He is our only hope.

Thanks, Joe, and I'm exceedingly glad you're posting here.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 24, 2021 10:54 AM (OssQ4)

273 Once possible solution is to refrain, as much as possible, from participating in the institutions that have become toxic and polluted. Disconnect from the state controlled media. Create large - scale home school co-ops. Pull your money from the banks and park it off shore, under the mattress, or somewhere it can't be touched. Grow food. And don't buy or sell. Find people who share your values and barter. Create a system for trading goods and services with one another that functions outside the current economy.
Posted by: E. A. Blair

This. And what Grump listed.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (CCDfQ)

274 Wawa stores here just posted signs saying "masks for everybody." When I was in one this AM, only about 1/4 of the customers were complying and there was no one playing hall monitor and chastising those who were not complying.

same here. Even though some places have "mask required" signs, there's little compliance and no enforcement. Except for this one lady at the bank at Branmar plaza, and I just remembered I have to send her boss a letter regarding that incident.

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (DJFLF)

275 The Meat Puppet "decided not to extend" because the Taliban told him they would start killing people if he did, obviously. Such a BS statement, so degrading of them to even put it out.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (Fkqbx)

276 @DailyCaller

Remember when the ACLU actually cared about civil liberties?

https://tinyurl.com/ydk42mx5

Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (cF8AT)

277 267 I think the pollsters are doing the bidding of Harris and her handlers and camp followers. The fix is in.
She went to Vietnam for only one reason--to "burnish" her foreign policy credentials. That's it.
No way would they allow Joe's polling to look this bad if they weren't trying to grease the skids for Kamala.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 24, 2021 10:53 AM (mR6Gs)

=========

I think the above poll is actually right leaning, if I remember correctly.

But even if this were true, it'd be monumentally stupid. Biden's not going anywhere. Biden's not going to resign. He's not going to be removed by the 25th Amendment or impeachment. The only way he goes is if he actually dies, and I doubt that happens. All this negative polling is doing is confirming the narrative with something approximating hard data that Biden is a fucking disaster, and he is the leader of the Democratic Party. Better to hide the decline than admit it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (LvTSG)

278 Will someone summarize Joe's point in 2-3 sentences foe me please? Thanks
Posted by: runner

The Taliban told us 8/31 is the cut off date, after which any Americans left are fair game. Joe agreed to this and is trying to make it look like HE is in charge, not the Taliban.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (mR6Gs)

279 Will someone summarize Joe's point in 2-3 sentences foe me please? Thanks
Posted by: runner

We're fucked. Five day forecast: fucked fucked fucked fucked fucked. Between a rock and a hard place. Up shit creek without a paddle.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston

The only flavor left in the freezer is Rocky Road.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Alea iacta est at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (iACZp)

280 276 @DailyCaller

Remember when the ACLU actually cared about civil liberties?

https://tinyurl.com/ydk42mx5
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (cF8AT)

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No.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (LvTSG)

281 She went to Vietnam for only one reason--to "burnish" her foreign policy credentials. That's it.

LOl.. She's doing a shitty job of it

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (I2VcN)

282 so the Taliban couldn't be bought off

the unkindest cut of all
Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 10:47 AM (uCLWI)

-----
Neither could OPEC.

#notmypresident!

Posted by: 496 at August 24, 2021 10:56 AM (VJsqe)

283 When bin Laden was still alive he ordered his goons to leave Biden alone because he knew having Biden in charge would put America in a crisis.

"Listen to your enemies, they will tell you your faults" - Ben Franklin

Posted by: zmdavid at August 24, 2021 10:56 AM (xqRaG)

284 Pretty sure DeSantis has promoted the vaccines just like Trump.
======

It's one thing to promote. It's entirely another to mandate/punish/ostracize.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 24, 2021 10:50 AM (IytoW)

Or let the FDA rubber stamp things inadequately tested.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at August 24, 2021 10:56 AM (y7DUB)

285 Regarding vaccines.. My Niece just got covid and she had the shot months ago.... Either it doesn't work or it promotes the disease crazy as that sounds
Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2021 10:54 AM (I2VcN)

I read yesterday that doctors over in Europe somewhere proved that the vaccine CAUSES the virus.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 24, 2021 10:56 AM (IXZGh)

286 Overall thinking that we can take down Bezos et al. by tweaking the tax code is a pipe dream though. Much more direct targetting is needed.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 10:43 AM (z5Vrg)

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I don't want to take him down. I'm tired however of fighting for him. One of the things I really hated about the Trump tax cut was how it was geared towards the ultra rich. And yes I know all the arguments from National Review why that is a good thing. It's still bullshit.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:56 AM (GQ5VU)

287 Spent 45 minutes thinking about this.

Here is the logical flaw in our tendency to think all hope is lost and there is nothing we can do. WASTF.

The policies that the left have spent 50 years gaining power to implement don't work. As I pointed out a few weeks ago, the Democrats really did think they would be running on a booming economy in 2022.

They are very good at gaining power, but what they do with the power doesn't work, and objectively leads to chaos and bad outcomes.

The Soviets had 70 years of complete power before it all came crashing down.

If this was just a zero sum game of arguing over which color flag should be flying over DC, then sure, we have no hope.

But it isn't. They are trying to use their power to force a population into doing something they don't want to. It is easy to talk about "the camps". But camps don't work when you are dealing with over 50% of the population.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at August 24, 2021 10:57 AM (5p7BC)

288 Remember when the ACLU actually cared about civil liberties?

https://tinyurl.com/ydk42mx5
Posted by: Tami at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (cF8AT)

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No.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (LvTSG)

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It had something to do with Illinois nazis.

Posted by: 496 at August 24, 2021 10:57 AM (VJsqe)

289 >Pretty sure DeSantis has promoted the vaccines just like Trump.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 10:48 AM (pC4Am)

Then touche if you are right. I'm happy to criticize DeSantis just as much as Trump if he's pushing the jab. In truth I don't really care about politics much any more and don't pay that much attention to DeSantis, other than what I pick up from osmosis here. I'm quite happy to not care about the kayfabe any more. If the implication is that I can't criticize Trump...well that's wrong.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 10:57 AM (DXFDM)

290 285 Regarding vaccines.. My Niece just got covid and she had the shot months ago.... Either it doesn't work or it promotes the disease crazy as that sounds
Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2021 10:54 AM (I2VcN)

I read yesterday that doctors over in Europe somewhere proved that the vaccine CAUSES the virus.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 24, 2021 10:56 AM (IXZGh)

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Since it's akin to a bad case of the flu for most people and has been over-diagnosed for years, I'm fine with all of this.

It just means more people are gaining natural immunity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:57 AM (LvTSG)

291 Plugs is at 30%.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2021 10:52 AM (aaUwX)

Damn. I should have shorted him when he was at 51%.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 24, 2021 10:57 AM (guGkK)

292 Wawa stores here just posted signs saying "masks for everybody." When I was in one this AM, only about 1/4 of the customers were complying and there was no one playing hall monitor and chastising those who were not complying.

Same here
I was at a WaWa on the Jersey Shore last week. Sign was on the door.
Almost no one was masked up except employees.

Posted by: JoeF. at August 24, 2021 10:57 AM (mR6Gs)

293 275 The Meat Puppet "decided not to extend" because the Taliban told him they would start killing people if he did, obviously. Such a BS statement, so degrading of them to even put it out.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (Fkqbx)

The decided not to extend so the Taliban won't kill people. Of course once they're gone the Taliban will "start" killing people anyways.

"Start" because they already are killing people.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 10:57 AM (G2zl5)

294 A counter long march also will not work because the leftists have no qualms about rejecting opposition.

Churches can be shot-through with gays and atheists undermining the church because purity tests are wrong, and celebrate the diversity.
Leftist structures can embrace purity tests because it is necessary to screen out unbelievers and harmony is beautiful and important.

Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at August 24, 2021 10:58 AM (SmFPm)

295 288 It had something to do with Illinois nazis.
Posted by: 496 at August 24, 2021 10:57 AM (VJsqe)

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The ACLU promoting leftist authoritarians?

*gasp*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:58 AM (LvTSG)

296 To hell with next year! I'm hoping the implosion in support for Democrats scares the crap out of the socialists trying to pass bills in the House right now, today.

My thing is...how will this affect the squishy "conservatives" just appointed to SCOTUS? Now that the bloom is off the demorat rose, and le tout DC is *not* 100 per cent behind Bidete...will we see the results come Decision Time?

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 10:58 AM (DJFLF)

297 Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 10:53 AM (G2zl5)

Trump also pushed for masks and lockdowns before he didn't. Trump dropped the ball on Covid bigley. Still a million times better than anything the Left had to offer.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:58 AM (2DOZq)

298 "The Taliban said no."

-- Joe Biden

How humiliating.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 24, 2021 10:58 AM (guGkK)

299 As a peace-loving veteran,I abhor violence.

BUT, I could be moved to violence by the opportunity to visit upon the Media the vengeance for what they have done to America for the last 70 years. Yes, that would do it for me, and I suspect, many others!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 24, 2021 10:58 AM (IAPGA)

300 The ACLU is a Communist front. Literally.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 10:58 AM (V6f9+)

301 Anyone here know anything about the Patriot Freedom Project? For helping the January 6 political prisoners and their families.

It was promoted recently by Dinesh D’Souza; on the face of it it seems like a great idea, but of course this is an area ripe for scam artists.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 24, 2021 10:58 AM (CX3cf)

302 6 We should have concentrated our efforts on academia instead.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at August 24, 2021 10:07 AM (eVwY+)

Titania agrees:

@TitaniaMcGrath
Aug 23
As a radical activist who hates the status quo, I'll continue to fight bravely against the establishment.

But it's so hard when the only ones on my side are big tech, academia, the mainstream media, the entertainment industry, the US government and the Duke & Duchess of Sussex.

Posted by: m at August 24, 2021 10:59 AM (RYc1G)

303 You can't beat leftists at their own game. You have to flip the table.

Posted by: f'd at August 24, 2021 10:59 AM (Tnijr)

304 "Indeed, there are no wedges."

Here's the wedge: You are in the position of power, and those in power must be resisted by those out of power.

Your rules demand that, as the oppressed, I am justified in all efforts to overthrow you.

Posted by: f2000 at August 24, 2021 10:59 AM (PWcd9)

305 Since it's akin to a bad case of the flu for most people and has been over-diagnosed for years, I'm fine with all of this.

It just means more people are gaining natural immunity.

Except "they" won't recognize as such.. My Daughter had covid and her work still wants her to get the vaccination... She won't do it.. She's right

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2021 10:59 AM (I2VcN)

306 >>Wawa stores here just posted signs saying "masks for everybody." When I was in one this AM, only about 1/4 of the customers were complying and there was no one playing hall monitor and chastising those who were not complying.

You can always just say you don't have one of those masks that actually works.

Posted by: Roy at August 24, 2021 11:00 AM (Ti+Tv)

307 Bury Her Heart At Wounded Brain.

Elizabeth Warren
@SenWarren
Many of the most critical voices you're hearing right now are the same people who got us into war & who think we should stay forever. Some are bought and paid for by the defense industry. So let me say unequivocally: President Biden made the right decision to withdraw our troops.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 24, 2021 11:00 AM (d9FiS)

308 The ACLU promoting leftist authoritarians?

*gasp*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:58 AM (LvTSG)

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Heh. Touche.

Posted by: 496 at August 24, 2021 11:00 AM (VJsqe)

309 277 - I agree that Joe isn't going anywhere except for passing on. These leftists utterly refuse changeover for reasons we would agree with, be it Pelosi, the Squad, or Kathleen Kennedy at Lucas Film.

I don't know if this is for some ideological reason or if it is just because they are accepted as part of the group that has a death-grip on power.

Posted by: Joseph Tura at August 24, 2021 11:00 AM (KgeAf)

310 I agree with all this basically, but I think it's important not to over play or even really worry too much the "intellectual" justifications and framework behind what, in the end, is just a childish/inchoate desire for power (control) over the uncontrollable (e.g., human nature, the behavior of others, modern world, whatevs). The "Left" seems like it has some sort or organization and group-level intelligence, but that's mainly just because at the moment it's straight tribalism for them ... but take away their "other" and they'd collapse (as always) into murderous recriminations amongst themselves.

Posted by: Match Checksout at August 24, 2021 11:00 AM (dYe5S)

311 If images emirge of Americans dying ala Sgt Elias

Joe is toast

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 11:00 AM (uCLWI)

312 TEAMWORK AND FOCUS RAAWWK!

Posted by: Propaganda Parrot at August 24, 2021 11:00 AM (Tnijr)

313 i propose the quick march - kill them all and let God sort them out.

Posted by: Archer at August 24, 2021 11:00 AM (gmo/4)

314 The Meat Puppet "decided not to extend"

We are absolutely committed to all Americans... for another seven days.

Posted by: Jen Psaki at August 24, 2021 11:00 AM (pbStR)

315 Leftist structures can embrace purity tests because it is necessary to screen out unbelievers and harmony is beautiful and important.
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Know the peace of Landru.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 24, 2021 11:01 AM (IytoW)

316 I don't want to take him down. I'm tired however of fighting for him. One of the things I really hated about the Trump tax cut was how it was geared towards the ultra rich. And yes I know all the arguments from National Review why that is a good thing. It's still bullshit.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 10:56 AM (GQ5VU)

do you have any details on that? I thought Trump lowered taxes for average people, not the ultra rich. If you can show he favored the ultra rich, I would be interested.

My big problem is I know what happens to tax dollars. I consider them a waste because of who spends them, and they mostly do it to get reelected.

A famous American once said we will lose our republic when the people can be bought off with their own money.

Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 11:01 AM (ZS6f0)

317 Good write-up Joe. I think the main reason we can't long march is because they knew we wouldn't shoot them in the face for having a different opinion. Commies have no such qualms.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 24, 2021 11:01 AM (r+sAi)

318 Duke & Duchess of Sussex

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Well, I knew it wasn't the Duke and Duchess of Success.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 24, 2021 11:01 AM (d9FiS)

319 Squaw Gray Beaver is a special kind of stupid.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2021 11:01 AM (aaUwX)

320 @52

>> It will be irrevocably lost long before then.

Once a society allows Tranny Story hour for kids to become a thing in reality, that society is already dead and all you are witnessing is the body going through the convolutions of death.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 24, 2021 11:02 AM (9h4bD)

321
It just means more people are gaining natural immunity.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 10:57 AM (LvTSG)

Which has proven to not matter because they're attempting to force EVERYONE (insert gif from that movie here) to get the killer stick.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 24, 2021 11:02 AM (IXZGh)

322 I read yesterday that doctors over in Europe somewhere proved that the vaccine CAUSES the virus.
Posted by: Sponge

That is LITERALLY the most retarded thing I've heard all day. And it's been a day.

Posted by: Dr. Nick at August 24, 2021 11:02 AM (wQHMf)

323 "A strike. A massive, long, general strike."

Now, name me ANY of those jobs you mention that can't be performed by imported serfs strictly for Party members, or outsourced to overseas locations where we can't get to them. Go ahead. I'll wait.

Posted by: SDN at August 24, 2021 11:02 AM (rJceT)

324 >Trump also pushed for masks and lockdowns before he didn't. Trump dropped the ball on Covid bigley. Still a million times better than anything the Left had to offer.
Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:58 AM (2DOZq)

That's about where I stand, but apparently if you don't take the whole sausage from Trump, then I guess some Morons get agitated. Pointing out a tactical error by Trump isn't some awful sin.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 11:03 AM (DXFDM)

325 I think the war was actually lost in the initial construction of our Republic. Instead of a Confederation of States, we foolishly created a Gov't that actually had some teeth, then allocated it "Limited Powers," which have been under attack ever since.

It's over, save a miracle. Evil will self destruct like it always does, but probably not in our lifetime, and certainly not before millions perish. Ace's analysis is pretty much along the lines I have considered. The miracle will have to come from a Leader with skills that exceed Milk's, or maybe Gandhi. Certainly not a military guy. I don't see anyone on the horizon, and Trump isn't the guy.

Posted by: Bob at August 24, 2021 11:03 AM (EgQF4)

326 Taxing Bezos doesn't matter. He's staffed his outfit with the like-minded. Remove him and another takes his place. Stop fixating on the faces, we're fighting the hydra here.

Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at August 24, 2021 11:03 AM (OUMaO)

327 Civilians, equipment, troops in that order. Someone needs to ask Joe to make a sentence using the words: "Hare, Hunter, Field".

Posted by: Archer at August 24, 2021 11:03 AM (gmo/4)

328 Since the CIA met yesterday with the head Tally-e-bon I expect money was given... We shall see.

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2021 11:03 AM (I2VcN)

329 If images emerge of Americans dying ala Sgt Elias

Joe is toast

Joe was meant to be toast. Removing him is not a victory in any way, his trial is just another distraction while they put someone else in. They have a very deep bench of fuck-ups ready to jump into the game.

Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2021 11:03 AM (DMQdU)

330 @SenWarren
... So let me say unequivocally: President Biden made the right decision to withdraw our troops.

What did she say when it was Trump who wanted to withdraw the troops?

Posted by: Oddbob at August 24, 2021 11:03 AM (nfrXX)

331 You can always just say you don't have one of those masks that actually works.

Posted by: Roy at August 24, 2021 11:00 AM (Ti+Tv)

the best play is to say nothing. I know of only one place where I live that makes a stink about it. They are a boutique bakery. They have lost a ton of customers and I guess that is ok. Other than that one example, no one dares say a thing regardless of any signs.

Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 11:04 AM (ZS6f0)

332
That is LITERALLY the most retarded thing I've heard all day. And it's been a day.
Posted by: Dr. Nick at August 24, 2021 11:02 AM (wQHMf)

Well, it was on the internet, so it MUST be true.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at August 24, 2021 11:04 AM (IXZGh)

333 oh, Joe is leaving, just not in the way you think he would

he'll leave in a manner in which the GOP will be blamed

the "never let a crisis go to waste" guys are on it right now

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 11:04 AM (uCLWI)

334 do you have any details on that? I thought Trump lowered taxes for average people, not the ultra rich. If you can show he favored the ultra rich, I would be interested.

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The top rate went from 39.7% to 37%.

The middle rate went from 25% to 24%.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at August 24, 2021 11:04 AM (GQ5VU)

335 Except "they" won't recognize as such.. My Daughter had covid and her work still wants her to get the vaccination... She won't do it.. She's right

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2021 10:59 AM (I2VcN)

A Professor at George Mason made exactly this case to his tyrannical administration and he got the medical exemption. He did have the NCLU behind him, though.

Must be other Constitutional lawyers out there

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 11:05 AM (DJFLF)

336 @SenWarren
... So let me say unequivocally: President Biden made the right decision to withdraw our troops.

Trump would have done it sooner and better.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 11:05 AM (yQpMk)

337 @SenWarren
... So let me say unequivocally: President Biden made the right decision to withdraw our troops.

Great White Squaw speak'um truth.

*passes peace pipe*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 24, 2021 11:05 AM (guGkK)

338 I probably wouldn't because if you decline someone they could probably claim that you didn't hire them for their religion and get your company into problems.

Yes - you should NOT be asking about this. But...listen to what they have to say. Most of the important info you get out of an interview is the stuff that the candidate slips out anyway...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 24, 2021 11:06 AM (DpkTQ)

339 297 Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 10:53 AM (G2zl5)
Trump also pushed for masks and lockdowns before he didn't. Trump dropped the ball on Covid bigley. Still a million times better than anything the Left had to offer.
Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:58 AM (2DOZq)

Are you going to find many politicians that are pure on this though? I don't think so really. I just don't really care for the "he sold us out/he supported X" mentality as the reason to drop someone and then saying we should support this other guy ... who was of the same mind on the thing you said we need to ditch the first guy for.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 11:06 AM (G2zl5)

340 Well, it was on the internet, so it MUST be true.
Posted by: Sponge

True!

Posted by: Dr. Nick at August 24, 2021 11:06 AM (wQHMf)

341
Trump would have done it sooner and better.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 11:05 AM (yQpMk)

At least in the correct order... Troops out last

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2021 11:06 AM (I2VcN)

342 ...They are trying to use their power to force a population into doing something they don't want to. It is easy to talk about "the camps". But camps don't work when you are dealing with over 50% of the population.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at August 24, 2021 10:57 AM (5p7BC)

What they want is power, corruption and destruction. It IS easier to destroy than to create. They would rather destroy America than allow it to exist without their values in place.

That is what we are up against. You can't win by playing by the rules against people like this, you can't hug theraphy a knife wielding thug.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 11:06 AM (V6f9+)

343 One stumbling block for conservatives/American Traditionalists is radical egalitarianism. The unfortunate shorthand "All men are created equal" hamstrings us. It meant that all men were equal before God, and specifically that no man is born a king.

But today it is taken to meant that everybody is equal in every attribute, and it forces us to tell and live lies, so as to ignore the obvious inequalities among individuals, and among the races of man.

Posted by: gp Has Been Put On Notice at August 24, 2021 11:06 AM (qpX6U)

344 irst, there must be people willing to resist. As of now, I see hardly anyone willing to get their hair mussed.
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People have a vested interest in society not coming apart at the seams. A general strike etc is going to lead to anarchy, reprisals. We are a rich people. General strikes/anarchy will cost people money. It is not until the people lose what they think they have, that they will push back. In reality, what you think you have is not really even yours, when the govt ignores the laws, they are just letting you hold your stuff, for now. Your just tending it for them. If the next generation still has the ability to own property and save for retirement, I'll be shocked. We're going back to Feudalism, incrementally. I mean I've been hoeing out my own patch of ground for a few years now. You'll be doing the same if you aren't already.

Posted by: shock the monkey at August 24, 2021 11:06 AM (C6X1O)

345 At least in the correct order... Troops out last

and last May.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (yQpMk)

346 The clot shot mandate is the tip of the spear being used to separate us from our freedoms. If you have a national platform and you're lending any legitimacy to the idea that more Americans need to be vaccinated (when it's clear that we've reached a saturation point for willing participants and that plenty of people probably have acquired natural immunity) then you're at best making a huge mistake and I will say so.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (DXFDM)

347 330 @SenWarren
... So let me say unequivocally: President Biden made the right decision to withdraw our troops.

and this is one of the "educators" Kurt was speaking of

Harvard, no less

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (uCLWI)

348 They've also had china and other commies funding so much, and now these companies are beholden to them, that there isn't much anyone can do to change their ways, well until we start rightfully jailing (or dumping into a volcano would be my preferred action) anyone with commie ties, and impounding thier property.

We can't win the long war, so are just need to be swift and harsh.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (B2qUs)

349 @SenWarren
... So let me say unequivocally: President Biden made the right decision to withdraw our troops.

So you're telling me...TRUMP WAS RIGHT!

Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (pbStR)

350 Unconfirmed: UPS started their vax mandate roll out today. Anyone in a position that requires in person interactions are first.

I think the USA will be on fire by Christmas.

Posted by: Fool Otto at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (DB16e)

351 ADE - Antibody Dependent Enhancement. They think that the mRNA vaccines cause it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (5HBd1)

352
I will fight for my tribe and everyone not of my tribe is the enemy.
Posted by: Sock Monkey

We become Afghanistan.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (63Dwl)

353 Taxing Bezos doesn't matter. He's staffed his outfit with the like-minded. Remove him and another takes his place. Stop fixating on the faces, we're fighting the hydra here.

Posted by: Brother Tim has nothing much to say, lately at August 24, 2021 11:03 AM (OUMaO)

Bezos and his buddies write the tax laws. Going after Trump on this seems low rent to me. The Leftist are the covetors. That is not who we are, that is not who I am. The way to beat these guys is to rise up and challenge them in ways they never imagined.

Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (ZS6f0)

354 The Meat Puppet "decided not to extend" because the Taliban told him they would start killing people if he did, obviously. Such a BS statement, so degrading of them to even put it out.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 24, 2021 10:55 AM (Fkqbx)

What a dumbass.
The solution was simple.
Send a bomber, find a village that is important o the Tallies. Put ten bombs around the village, just far enough out to not hurt anyone. Then ask the Tallies again if they want to change their mind?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:08 AM (axyOa)

355 Lara Logan and Pete Hegseth are on Outnumbered today.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 24, 2021 11:08 AM (NpAcC)

356 We become Afghanistan.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (63Dwl)

We become Sarajevo.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 11:08 AM (yQpMk)

357 Kamala Harris discussed Christmas shopping and climate change but failed to mention the current crisis in Afghanistan during her major foreign policy speech on Monday.

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She's got her thumb on America's pulse.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 24, 2021 11:08 AM (d9FiS)

358 Paper out of Japan suggest Pfizer jab may induce new mutations:

https://tinyurl.com/3b925tj7

This is a direct link to the study:

https://tinyurl.com/kjpeuvab

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 11:08 AM (DJFLF)

359 A famous American once said we will lose our republic when the people can be bought off with their own money.
Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 11:01 AM (ZS6f0)

Ding, ding, ding!

The endless money spigot is one big source of all our problems as a nation. Good luck getting it turned off.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 11:09 AM (V6f9+)

360 My conspiracy theory is that the Delta variant isn't a variant but rather a new Covid virus introduced into India by the CCP. That's why the vaccines don't work and it's all the sudden targeting young healthy adults. I don't believe Covid 19 could have mutated that drastically in such a short time.

Of course I have to remind people I've stayed in a Holiday Inn for more than a day.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 11:09 AM (2DOZq)

361 "Indeed, there are no wedges."

Here's the wedge: You are in the position of power, and those in power must be resisted by those out of power.

Your rules demand that, as the oppressed, I am justified in all efforts to overthrow you.
Posted by: f2000 at August 24, 2021 10:59 AM

I don't think they can ever admit they're in power, even as they wield it. Like John Lewis always exhorted, "never stop fighting" is their motto, which means, in essence, they can never win. There is no win condition for someone who had decided to fight a war forever. No point at which they can say, "We won, it's time to go home, the war is over." So they must always see themselves as out of power and oppressed. So they can keep fighting.

And, spiritually and theologically, they're right. They will never be God, so there is always a power greater than them to fight.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 24, 2021 11:09 AM (OssQ4)

362 Lara Logan is dropping truth bomb after truth bomb.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 24, 2021 11:09 AM (9h4bD)

363 Well this is interesting. My son was briefly involved in modeling and got registered and set up with a modeling agency right before covid hit. The pandemic shut everything down and it never went anywhere but we continue to get emails since we are on their list. Just got one advising their clients are starting to ask for vaccination status of children models and their parents as well. Plus a link to a survey/questionnaire.

The vax mandate will be with us soon.

Posted by: Ripley at August 24, 2021 11:09 AM (MxEKc)

364 That is what we are up against. You can't win by playing by the rules against people like this, you can't hug theraphy a knife wielding thug.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 11:06 AM (V6f9+)

Yup.
Organize.
Plan.
Prepare.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:09 AM (axyOa)

365 354 What a dumbass.
The solution was simple.
Send a bomber, find a village that is important o the Tallies. Put ten bombs around the village, just far enough out to not hurt anyone. Then ask the Tallies again if they want to change their mind?
Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:08 AM (axyOa)

=========

Unless Biden's willing to send in a brigade to extract everyone, he has to play on the Taliban's terms. He (or at least his military advisors) know that any attack on a civilian target, especially ones with kids, will get turned into an optics nightmare at absolute best. The Taliban also knows this.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 11:10 AM (LvTSG)

366 The Left is all about how racism is fundamentally wrong (and they're right about that), yet they also hate and despise - to the point of savagery - white people and Asians. They claim to abhor bigotry on the basis of skin color, yet they are bigoted against whites and Asians. This is an inconsistency, isn't it? No, it isn't. And the reason why it isn't is their philosophy.

Point of order. The left is extremely racist against blacks. They just keep yelling "We are not racist" while doing their racist shit.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 24, 2021 11:10 AM (TayrX)

367 352
I will fight for my tribe and everyone not of my tribe is the enemy.
Posted by: Sock Monkey

We become Afghanistan.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (63Dwl)

I have long thought that Tribalism is the essential human condition, and individualism is the Johnny-Come-Lately social construct.

Posted by: kraken at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (6Je/Q)

368 Unconfirmed: UPS started their vax mandate roll out today. Anyone in a position that requires in person interactions are first.

I think the USA will be on fire by Christmas.
Posted by: Fool Otto at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (DB16e)

Ahhh...this must be why Harris told us to get our Xmas shopping done early. She knows things...

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (axyOa)

369 He (or at least his military advisors) know that any attack on a civilian target, especially ones with kids, will get turned into an optics nightmare at absolute best. The Taliban also knows this.

Yep, even if they have to murder the children themselves.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (yQpMk)

370 I don't think we should dispair against a group that thoroughly misunderstands his opponent.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (/hXfz)

371 Since the CIA met yesterday with the head Tally-e-bon I expect money was given... We shall see.
Posted by: It's me donna

I'm guessing Texas was given.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (OssQ4)

372 Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:08 AM (axyOa)

They don't care about their subjects. They only care about their own skin. Target the leaders with near miss drone strikes would be better.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (2DOZq)

373 We become Afghanistan.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

So I can buy a machine guns RPGs and high explosives down at the market?

Sweet!

Posted by: Dick Hitzwater at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (wQHMf)

374 360 My conspiracy theory is that the Delta variant isn't a variant but rather a new Covid virus introduced into India by the CCP. That's why the vaccines don't work and it's all the sudden targeting young healthy adults. I don't believe Covid 19 could have mutated that drastically in such a short time.

Of course I have to remind people I've stayed in a Holiday Inn for more than a day.
Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 11:09 AM (2DOZq)

Well if vaccines were concentrated in the older at risk spectrum, wouldn't the virus logically mutate to target unvaccinated (ie younger) segments of the population? Coronaviruses are known for rapid mutation.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (z5Vrg)

375 So time to show my work again. One of the arguments made is the "the youth want socialism" and that only us boomers are pushing back. So it is hopeless. But the data doesn't necessarily support that theory.

https://tinyurl.com/swk6uhw5

This is Rich Baris's latest poll on vaccine mandates by employers. They are very unpopular.

And the demographic that supports employer mandates the most are age 65+

Strongly opposed
18-29 - 33%
30-44 - 41%
45-64 - 44%
65+ - 28%

Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (5p7BC)

376 The solution was simple.
Send a bomber, find a village that is important o the Tallies. Put ten bombs around the village, just far enough out to not hurt anyone. Then ask the Tallies again if they want to change their mind?
Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:08 AM (axyOa)

What village is more important than power to the Taliban? You could put all 10 bombs ON the village, they'd just use it for propaganda value.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review at August 24, 2021 11:12 AM (V6f9+)

377 the markets are up by a small amount, I am shocked. That has been the plan all along. They always go up and only by a small amount. No one wants to get over extended,but no one wants to make Biden look bad. I used to say I never predicted markets or stocks, but this has been something I have never seen. it is the consistency that is amazing. I hope everyone has been long because this type of consistent gains has never been seen before, at least in this way.

Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 11:12 AM (ZS6f0)

378 There is no win condition for someone who had decided to fight a war forever.

Every victory is but a great start with so much more work to be done.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 24, 2021 11:12 AM (TayrX)

379 Pointing out a tactical error by Trump isn't some awful sin.

No, it isn't. I can point out plenty of Trump fuckups.

Not living up to the declaration of the MFM being the enemy of the people is number one on my list.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 24, 2021 11:12 AM (2JVJo)

380 And the demographic that supports employer mandates the most are age 65+

Since we aren't working.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 11:12 AM (yQpMk)

381 Seems we're talking Burnham, Alinsky and Gramsci here. All three are operative.

You live in a Managerialist society where the left gets it's way by continuous whining and when that doesn't work, it subverts systems by placing it's own inside society's institutions. Eventually, the system is either managed to death or collapses from within due to dissent or malfeasance.

I recommend a carefully-planned program of street executions (half joking).

Posted by: Matt Noto at August 24, 2021 11:13 AM (ZaYq5)

382 Yep, even if they have to murder the children themselves.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (yQpMk)

They get to up their numbers in that game here in about 6 days.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 11:13 AM (G2zl5)

383 The " let's fix the tax code/tax the wealthy "discussion is a distortion and deflection of the true problem. Take a gsnder at the depth and breadth of the actual complete unabridged UCC Tax laws. It's mind boggling. Who will you trust to instill even a semblance of fairness? The problem is spending. Attack that one and the revenue issue responds accordingly to the level of success you have. Discussions regarding the Tax code on the political stage have also been a deflection from the actual problem.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Alea iacta est at August 24, 2021 11:13 AM (iACZp)

384 Well if vaccines were concentrated in the older at risk spectrum, wouldn't the virus logically mutate to target unvaccinated (ie younger) segments of the population? Coronaviruses are known for rapid mutation.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (z5Vrg)

It has skipped a few mutation steps according to the experts.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 11:13 AM (2DOZq)

385 You are doing a heckuva job, Talley

-CIA.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 24, 2021 11:14 AM (TayrX)

386 Joe, thank you for the great post, and all that work. Thought provoking. Two thoughts.
1. You say you do not think they have positions in conflict. I think many of their positions are contradictions. Like we were talking yesterday about Patagonia being anti capitalist. Or a green company. Right so you produce fleeces and back packs, using oil. But you are against oil? And you are against making money? There is a lot of contradiction there.
2. You want a more general attack on the systems.I have said here for some time, long term, that is what they want. They only pretend they want to make us sit for the national anthem. What they are really trying to do is destroy sports. Do they really want a sustainable future for cars? Or do they want to destroy the existing system of gas/engines?

Posted by: MikeM at August 24, 2021 11:14 AM (jbRB1)

387 The Income Tax is an invention of the Devil.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 11:14 AM (yQpMk)

388 Unless Biden's willing to send in a brigade to extract everyone, he has to play on the Taliban's terms. He (or at least his military advisors) know that any attack on a civilian target, especially ones with kids, will get turned into an optics nightmare at absolute best. The Taliban also knows this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, nihilism is all fun and games with a Carpenter leading the way at August 24, 2021 11:10 AM (LvTSG)

Didn't say it wouldn't be pretty.
Total war...even if to get our people out. The first American killed results in a leveled village.
Keep upping the ante.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:14 AM (axyOa)

389 I could tell the author what he is missing and how stupid he is and conservatives are in general but it would be a waste of time. He is likely at least passively as complicit in the malaise, usually by a combination of blunt stupidity, cowardice and denial as the whole movement is. He's likely self satisfied with his contribution and asking why others don't do more, along with this intellectual escapism and excuse to remain in his cocoon.

If the author is interested, you have my email, I'll explain to you how wrong and self defeating your post is. There are ways, non-violent ways to resolve things in our favor.

We don't bother with the simplest of things, instead of throwing dirt clods, pick up one of their machine guns and use it. Use their weapons against them. No one knows how to effectively counter their strategies of hate? and it ends up we are fighting machine guns with bare hands.

Posted by: jeremiah at August 24, 2021 11:14 AM (Xtel/)

390 367 352
I will fight for my tribe and everyone not of my tribe is the enemy.
Posted by: Sock Monkey

We become Afghanistan.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (63Dwl)

I have long thought that Tribalism is the essential human condition, and individualism is the Johnny-Come-Lately social construct.
Posted by: kraken at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (6Je/Q)

Most every grouping over a few hundred is a social construct. "Nations" are often composed of formerly hostile groups. What does the native Gaul have in common with the invading Frank?

Social construct doesn't automatically mean bad(or good). Clapping to show approval is an American practice and not inborn to human nature.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 11:14 AM (z5Vrg)

391 Since the CIA met yesterday with the head Tally-e-bon I expect money was given... We shall see.

I think he was just checking the crops.

Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2021 11:14 AM (ELgVT)

392 Until we're willing to sacrifice everything for freedom, the march toward slavery will continue.

Everyone needs to read what the signatories of the Declaration of Independence had to sacrifice.

I'm afraid this grand experiment is over. We're too soft. Too comfortable.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 24, 2021 11:14 AM (Fs5vw)

393 Just as we all submitted to masks and lockdowns, we will accept the gulags. We are sheep, and constantly afraid.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at August 24, 2021 11:15 AM (6bryp)

394 "It just means more people are gaining natural immunity."

"They" say the vaccine will actually prevent herd immunity. (because the virus will keep adapting around vaccines and boosters). I don't get though, whether the vaccinated that do get covid then become more permanently "immune", regardless of getting more boosters.

some talk was that the vaccines will actually reduce/destroy the herd immunity we would have otherwise (or that we already have). ... Do we really have surge of real cases, or just bad testing? idk ... is the current "surge" due to the vaccine maybe?

Posted by: illiniwek at August 24, 2021 11:15 AM (Cus5s)

395 That's about where I stand, but apparently if you don't take the whole sausage from Trump, then I guess some Morons get agitated. Pointing out a tactical error by Trump isn't some awful sin.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 11:03 AM (DXFDM)

I apologize for daring to ask you a simple question that might make you think and learn.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 11:15 AM (G2zl5)

396 I told them to read the manufacturer's disclaimer. All I got from them was ' yes it does' . I said 'you go with that' and walked away.
Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 10:54 AM (2DOZq)

Yup...the big mamma jamma at Hartsfield went on and on about wearing "da masks" to "prevents" blah blah blah.

Then she "tole" us all about the federal laws and "reguglations" and we be going to jail if we don't be wearing "da mask".

Knowledge, good God y'all, what is is good for?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 24, 2021 11:16 AM (R/m4+)

397 "The Left is all about how racism is fundamentally wrong (and they're right about that),"

The only thing that the left and right seem to agree 100% about is that "racism" is the worst thing in the world, and that "antiracism" is more important than liberty.

Posted by: gp Has A New Keyboard at August 24, 2021 11:16 AM (qpX6U)

398 Everyone is in a tribe, except the whypipo. Every tribe is at war against whypipo. Some whypipo may ally with your tribe to fight against other whypipo, but the allies will be eaten, too

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 24, 2021 11:16 AM (TayrX)

399 Western Civ is poisoned. We can't do anything now but "start again" - afresh

we will either do that in new territory - maybe in the oceans, maybe in the atmosphere, maybe in failed and mostly empty regions of this Earth, maybe off-world.

but it's the only way. we can make our own "empty regions" but destroying much of the USA. maybe that's what will happen. maybe we'll have a civil war that devolves into total self-destruction, and we'll end up with some unfettered areas without Leftist-type people (basically, R-selected midwits).

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 24, 2021 11:16 AM (j9HX3)

400 They don't care about their subjects. They only care about their own skin. Target the leaders with near miss drone strikes would be better.
Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (2DOZq)

True, but that is a targeting issue.
We know where the important tallies are from. Make their lives miserable when they know their kin are in jepoardy. They will negotiate.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:16 AM (axyOa)

401 358 Paper out of Japan suggest Pfizer jab may induce new mutations:

https://tinyurl.com/3b925tj7

This is a direct link to the study:

https://tinyurl.com/kjpeuvab
Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 11:08 AM (DJFLF)

Thank you for the links, kallisto!

Posted by: m at August 24, 2021 11:17 AM (RYc1G)

402 You live in the city, and you eat the weak.

One Triggleypuff can feed the average family for a month.
==
That's just the back bacon. Seriously, T-puff that's like a years worth. Its like a whole hog and then some.

Posted by: shock the monkey at August 24, 2021 11:18 AM (OZ/tc)

403 I have been advocating a General Strike since Nov. 4, 2020.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at August 24, 2021 11:18 AM (xopIz)

404 but it's the only way. we can make our own "empty regions" but destroying much of the USA. maybe that's what will happen. maybe we'll have a civil war that devolves into total self-destruction, and we'll end up with some unfettered areas without Leftist-type people (basically, R-selected midwits).
Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 24, 2021 11:16 AM (j9HX3)

In our history books we call this the Dark Ages. Which were not uniformly bleak but certainly did see civilizational and technological regression as well as large declines in population for the early parts.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy (z5Vrg) - The Republic is Already Dead at August 24, 2021 11:18 AM (z5Vrg)

405 "I think the USA will be on fire by Christmas."

Once everyone finds out they are not getting Christmas presents the hill will have been found.

Posted by: f'd at August 24, 2021 11:18 AM (Tnijr)

406 And the demographic that supports employer mandates the most are age 65+

The AARP has told them they're all gonna die.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 24, 2021 11:19 AM (TKmok)

407 I went in for a checkup today, and my doctor said she is cool with us having a stash of Ivermectin, for either prophylaxis or treatment, or both. I didn't mention it was Mr. Ed's Apple Toothpaste.

She also invited me to her church, which sounds doctrinally sound from talking with her -- not woke, and biblically-based. I hope I have the courage to go. Logically, right now it's braver to *not* attend a church, but I'm a stiff-necked fool sometimes. Most times.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 24, 2021 11:19 AM (OssQ4)

408 Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:16 AM (axyOa)

Agree if we can target what's important to them. We know women and female children are not. They will kill their wife if a man looks at her too long.

Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 11:19 AM (2DOZq)

409 Well. Good news.
The little company I consult for got it's people out.
Whew.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:19 AM (axyOa)

410 I agree with the description of what has happened. I disagree about the hopelessness of the fight back.

Too many people from too many backgrounds are already seeing it - we've seen the push back from too many different places. It has started. From people going after the local school boards, red state governors and legislatures becoming more aggressive, the push back on CRT, the acknowledgement that the vote is unsecure, etc.

The fa�ade the left has built is just that, a fa�ade. And once exposed it will not have much support. We are watching the beginning of that crumbling - and we must just keep pushing. Do the little things necessary to take back the positions of power - expose the duplicity of our major corporations. Change your school board. Find friendly governments and get legislation passed. It won't take 50-70 years. it will fall apart much quicker than that.

Posted by: Black JEM at August 24, 2021 11:20 AM (V6xwG)

411 >I apologize for daring to ask you a simple question that might make you think and learn.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 11:15 AM (G2zl5)

LOL, OK Socrates

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 11:20 AM (DXFDM)

412 I remember when they Doctors smoking in magazine ads

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 11:21 AM (uCLWI)

413 A generalization here, but nevertheless... old people often become extremely fearful, and are easily preyed upon... and tend to watch a LOT of television.

Posted by: kraken at August 24, 2021 11:21 AM (6Je/Q)

414 needs a "had"

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2021 11:22 AM (uCLWI)

415 She also invited me to her church, which sounds doctrinally sound from talking with her -- not woke, and biblically-based. I hope I have the courage to go.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 24, 2021 11:19 AM (OssQ4

Sounds good so far ....

Posted by: Emmie at August 24, 2021 11:22 AM (6RgRK)

416 Problem with a general strike is getting enough people to participate. All I see around me is complacency. Most people aren't even aware of the problem.

Posted by: SkylerKat at August 24, 2021 11:22 AM (SXIn9)

417 Thank you for the links, kallisto!

Posted by: m at August 24, 2021 11:17 AM (RYc1G)

anytime, m!

Posted by: kallisto at August 24, 2021 11:22 AM (DJFLF)

418 An increasing number of the virii are gay and therefore do not reproduce. Film at 11. Parade next Saturday.

Posted by: klaftern at August 24, 2021 11:22 AM (r4sI4)

419 Agree if we can target what's important to them. We know women and female children are not. They will kill their wife if a man looks at her too long.
Posted by: Just a side note at August 24, 2021 11:19 AM (2DOZq)

But they don't want to kill their wife, unless she has been a pain in his ass. Then it makes it easy for him to follow the dictates of Allah.
But I no longer care about them.
Life for any western woman left behind will be a hell-on-earth existance. The men will be executed, unless they are needed for something important. Kids will be killed or enslaved.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:22 AM (axyOa)

420 Nood

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at August 24, 2021 11:23 AM (SaloS)

421 They" say the vaccine will actually prevent herd immunity. (because the virus will keep adapting around vaccines and boosters). I don't get though, whether the vaccinated that do get covid then become more permanently "immune", regardless of getting more boosters.

some talk was that the vaccines will actually reduce/destroy the herd immunity we would have otherwise (or that we already have). ... Do we really have surge of real cases, or just bad testing? idk ... is the current "surge" due to the vaccine maybe?
==
According to their narrative the "surge" is due to the Delta variant. A leaky vaccine, like this one, allows the virus to mutate into resistant forms, so that the vaccines become even less effective. "boosters" which are also leaky, allow this process to continue indefinitely. Thus, you have a continual process and never achieve herd immunity. Conveniently for the booster salesmen/producers. The vacc'd aren't permanently immune. The narrative itself indicated that Pfizers' clot shot is about 40% effective after 6 months. Natural immunity is still in the 80s after 8 months. We'd be better off, just letting it run its course and treating it early.

Posted by: shock the monkey at August 24, 2021 11:23 AM (OZ/tc)

422 Moderate Dems hold - no 3 trillion dollar boondogle for Nanz

Posted by: Boswell at August 24, 2021 11:23 AM (5iUNf)

423 Nood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 24, 2021 11:24 AM (khAeP)

424 Santa Clause ain't coming to town.

Posted by: The Virus That Stole Christmas at August 24, 2021 11:24 AM (Tnijr)

425 368 Unconfirmed: UPS started their vax mandate roll out today. Anyone in a position that requires in person interactions are first.

I think the USA will be on fire by Christmas.
Posted by: Fool Otto at August 24, 2021 11:07 AM (DB16e)

Ahhh...this must be why Harris told us to get our Xmas shopping done early. She knows things...
Posted by: Diogenes at August 24, 2021 11:11 AM (axyOa)

She specified "supply chain issues."

https://tinyurl.com/6dpuhmaa

Posted by: m at August 24, 2021 11:24 AM (RYc1G)

426 They are trying to use their power to force a population into doing something they don't want to. It is easy to talk about "the camps". But camps don't work when you are dealing with over 50% of the population.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (5p7BC) at August 24, 2021 10:57 AM (5p7BC)

What they want is power, corruption and destruction. It IS easier to destroy than to create. They would rather destroy America than allow it to exist without their values in place.

That is what we are up against. You can't win by playing by the rules against people like this, you can't hug theraphy a knife wielding thug.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, The Suicide Squad review

One. I truly believe that they are arrogantly overconfident that they have complete control of the military. Two. Camps are merely the window display. Their expectations if they go to that level is that for every ten people who would be interned, nine of us will be dead before we end up there. Think like enemy folks. We are not re educatable therefore we need to be eliminated.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Alea iacta est at August 24, 2021 11:24 AM (iACZp)

427 I told them to read the manufacturer's disclaimer.

-
The disclaimer on my espresso maker is, "WARNING:
CHOKING HAZARD -- Small parts. Not for children under 3 yrs."

You heard it here first. No espresso for children under 3 yrs.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at August 24, 2021 11:24 AM (d9FiS)

428 The formerly respected Lahey Clinic now includes the following on its "Patient Personal Information page" at its Patient Portal:

Legal Sex
Sex Assigned at Birth
Gender Identity

They're blinding us with SCIENCE!

(might as well go to Haiti or Cuba for health care. Or maybe someone who practices Santeria.)

Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 24, 2021 11:25 AM (fPFtn)

429 Kristi Noem has said she will not support the legislature that bans companies ordering employees to Vax up.
____________

When is she going to announce her "transition" to Dim?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 24, 2021 11:26 AM (k4dH2)

430 I apologize for daring to ask you a simple question that might make you think and learn.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 24, 2021 11:15 AM (G2zl5)

Man, do not even worry about it. The vast majority of "helpful criticism" offered to the real President falls into two categories:

1) Madboys who couldn't win a local election to dogcatcher (Never Trumpers in general are here).
2) Men with strong beliefs, that lack some critical character aspect needed to act on those beliefs.

President Trump will continue his plan, which I suspect has all sorts of remaining surprises. Meanwhile, we live in an era where the neocon project has collapsed definitively. The Democrats are in total internal disarray even as they hold "ultimate" power. Feed that madness, and get ready for the Collapse.

Posted by: trev006 at August 24, 2021 11:26 AM (iiqZr)

431 The model for what you propose is right in front of your face: Mexican Drug Cartels.

Horrific violence, drug and human trafficking, death to members of a corrupt judiciary and executions of politicians are a daily event there.

Corporations with production facilities located there get along just fine with them.

Posted by: Auspex at August 24, 2021 11:27 AM (Xo3T0)

432 415 She also invited me to her church, which sounds doctrinally sound from talking with her -- not woke, and biblically-based. I hope I have the courage to go.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 24, 2021 11:19 AM (OssQ4

Sounds good so far ....
Posted by: Emmie at August 24, 2021 11:22 AM (6RgRK

You might want ask if she's from Haiti before you go to that church.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 24, 2021 11:27 AM (Fs5vw)

433 The suggestion here for a general strike is exactly the right approach. All wealth and power exercised by the Enemy is conditional on mass cooperation. Absent that cooperation, they literally can do NOTHING. And they are not competent to build and maintain their own personal and infrastructure objects that make 21st century living possible.
The problem is that human genetics create two contrasting modes of living: giving the unknown future a chance vs. preserving a status quo that has stood the test of time. As a result, people are inherently uncomfortable with cooperation with others, except due to money or familiarity. And the powers that be have successfully taught us that we cannot tolerate anyone who wants to live different from us, not to mention ginning up racial, gender, or faith hatreds.
In order to win, the 99.999% must awaken from the lies of the establishment's communications apparatus and join together with people who look and think in mysterious ways (to us) and embrace our shared insecurity, then shut it all down peacefully. The one God the Empire of Evil worships is money: force them to share the join proceeds of join economic activity.

Posted by: J. R. Chloupek at August 24, 2021 11:27 AM (USIwB)

434 I hate to be alarmist, but Afghanistan is turning out to be the perfect shitstorm for the civilized world.

Reports are now that the Taliban refused to extend their deadline past 8/31.

Unsurprisingly, the Puddinhead administration has been lying about how many have already been evacuated. A leaked State Dept memo says that as of 3PM ET yesterday, a total of 4407 Americans have been flown out.

It appears we'll be leaving thousands of Americans to be entertained by the Taliban. Again, the administration is lying, but they won't say just how many thousands that will be.

God help us.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 24, 2021 11:28 AM (sWM8x)

435 407 Logically, right now it's braver to *not* attend a church
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 24, 2021 11:19 AM (OssQ4)

Why is that?

Posted by: m at August 24, 2021 11:28 AM (RYc1G)

436 Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2021 11:20 AM (DXFDM)

now we are hearing from Bill and Ted.

Posted by: Quint at August 24, 2021 11:29 AM (ZS6f0)

437
429 Kristi Noem has said she will not support the legislature that bans companies ordering employees to Vax up.
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Norm is dead in the water as far as I'm concerned.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 24, 2021 11:29 AM (Fs5vw)

438 It appears we'll be leaving thousands of Americans to be entertained by the Taliban. Again, the administration is lying, but they won't say just how many thousands that will be.

God help us.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 24, 2021 11:28 AM (sWM8x)
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I'd say it would depend on how effectively they can commandeer commercial jetliners to help support exfil, but the main problem as far as I can tell is getting people TO KABUL in the first place.

If they can't make the first mile, the other 3400 don't matter.

Posted by: reason at August 24, 2021 11:30 AM (ePZfA)

439 I read the article and the comments, and I wonder "Who will bell the cat?"

Posted by: Noam Sayen at August 24, 2021 11:32 AM (fPFtn)

440 We do have our own 'long march', about 2021 years so far.

Posted by: Corona at August 24, 2021 11:35 AM (nakGR)

441 Up until recently, I made the awful mistake of believing that, at some point in this societal/political train wreck that constitutes America today, that self-preservation would kick in and open eyes. My brain can't process how white people, for example, can jump completely onboard with a political movement that hates them. That's obvious in its long term plans to eradicate them, or at the very least, reduce them to insignificant people in the scheme of things. But so many Caucasians are ready to throw themselves into the figurative ovens that it's unbelievable. Self-preservation isn't kicking in for half the country. Mass refusal to participate in the functioning of this country may well be a good idea. Try and make it without us. They can't. Only then can we get some bargaining chips, for lack of a better term. I have no answers, but great post again, JM. You're a right smart fella.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 24, 2021 11:37 AM (O+I8R)

442 The education system has failed. What used to be taught in 8 years, got extended to 12 years, and now may take 16 years or more to produce an inferior product.

Homeschooling is a step in the right direction, but a lot of families don't have the time, resources and skillset to carry it out.

I think a lot of the problem with the current education system is the lack of incentive for students. Other than getting a gold star in kindergarten, there isn't much motivation for students. Everything flows to the teacher and school administration.

I read about Lancaster schools in England in the early 1800s. These bare bones schools were used to instruct the poor. They got great results and a motivating factor was that the better students would get paid to teach other students. There were very few actual teachers and swarms of paid student monitors.

Maybe this is an idea whose time has come again.

Posted by: Education has failed at August 24, 2021 11:38 AM (mw9vl)

443 I think one area where we can make a lot of progress is for any elected Republican (actual conservative, mind you) just uses the power of their office to cut a swath of destruction in their own corner of government. Do it legally, but aggressively, and never apologize for it. You'll either get re-elected or you can ride off into the sunset, knowing you did your part. Salt the proverbial earth and make it difficult to reverse what you did.

Posted by: frode at August 24, 2021 11:39 AM (renyk)

444 310 I agree with all this basically, but I think it's important not to over play or even really worry too much the "intellectual" justifications and framework behind what, in the end, is just a childish/inchoate desire for power (control) over the uncontrollable (e.g., human nature, the behavior of others, modern world, whatevs). The "Left" seems like it has some sort or organization and group-level intelligence, but that's mainly just because at the moment it's straight tribalism for them ... but take away their "other" and they'd collapse (as always) into murderous recriminations amongst themselves.
Posted by: Match Checksout at August 24, 2021 11:00 AM (dYe5S)

I like this. When the intellectual bullshit is stripped away, the truth is rather simple.

Posted by: Justsayin' at August 24, 2021 11:40 AM (Fs5vw)

445 Mike Rogers (R-AL): why no, that's my real hair

harumph and all that

wankers, every and all of them (esteemed colleagues)

Posted by: micky at August 24, 2021 11:42 AM (3byMq)

446 This Joe Mannix is on a roll. A great read and a civil call to action.

Posted by: MikeN at August 24, 2021 11:43 AM (QX56A)

447 She also invited me to her church, which sounds doctrinally sound from talking with her -- not woke, and biblically-based. I hope I have the courage to go.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at August 24, 2021 11:19 AM (OssQ4

Sounds good so far ....
Posted by: Emmie at August 24, 2021 11:22 AM (6RgRK)

Is she hot?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2021 11:50 AM (yQpMk)

448 It's really very simple. Our political philosophy of openness allows for dissenting points of view, which is why we - mistakenly - let the Left in the door. They don't, which is why they won't let us in. We want discourse. They want power.

Posted by: Nemo at August 24, 2021 11:51 AM (S6ArX)

449
I agree a full, all industry strike nationwide is a good start, but it will be war in the end, so starting at voter precinct level militia all the way to provisional county red government, cutting off the cities and sending blue refugees out of red counties is still going to be needed long-term unfortunately.

Posted by: Sapwolf at August 24, 2021 11:53 AM (lzEbI)

450
Lightly-regulated selfishness is NOT going to win this war.

Posted by: Sapwolf at August 24, 2021 11:56 AM (lzEbI)

451 "So why won't this work for our side?:

I think the primary reason it won't work for us is because our side is not wired for a Long March. Just look at us over the last decade - we don' want to spend time and energy as "activists", we just want to be left alone. And after a few years our people would lose the willpower to stay focused on it, become stragglers and wander away until no one was left. Just like we did with the deficit.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at August 24, 2021 11:57 AM (49Exr)

452 We can't march with the compromised force we have in DC now. We need fresh blood - Teddy Daniels, etc.

Posted by: Coki at August 24, 2021 11:58 AM (bfZ+X)

453
If we want to win this CW2, we will need to take on more characteristics of the Taliban:

Ferocity
Courage
Unity
Selflessness
Belief

Posted by: Sapwolf at August 24, 2021 11:59 AM (lzEbI)

454 My vote is violence. We kill them. I am advocating it, loudly and frequently.

No society in history has voted their way out of a feudal dictatorship. No society has peacefully wrested political power from those who seek to oppress them.

You described the situation yourself. Peaceful change requires two sides willing and capable of reason. Postmodernists are neither willing nor capable due to their adherence to the precepts of power. You cannot reason with someone who only seeks power. You cannot live in peace with them.

They will kill us, if only to use the murder as a form of intimidation and control of their own factions. We must be willing to kill them first, and faster.

Posted by: Andy Stern at August 24, 2021 12:02 PM (YsPYR)

455 Normals need to organize under a fraternal order and use similar tactics as the unions. Corporate internationalists need to start feeling pain.

Posted by: MikeN at August 24, 2021 12:16 PM (QX56A)

456 It is a delight to see this analysis finally coming to the fore. (This is a particularly well expressed example of several recent similar analyses.) The core point in the discussion of "what is to be done" is how do "we" unite and make plans to engage in a counterattack? Far too many of us are still relying on the Republican Party to save us, as if this were simply a political crisis like 1968. If the Repubs win in 2022, do you honestly think Kevin McCarthy (Paul Ryan's towel boy), and Mitch McConnell (a Trump hater) will lead the necessary counter-revolution? Nope! So, how do we change that dynamic in the next 18 months?

Posted by: DZouave at August 24, 2021 12:18 PM (M3pDV)

457 I've only masked willingly twice since this whole mess began. Once at the funeral home after my husband died (not much choice there) and once at the hairdresser's last week -- accepting one temporary inconvenience to get rid of a much greater long-term one.

So yeah, I've folded a couple of times. But as a general rule, I do not mask, and since I had a stroke due to a clot a few years ago, I'm certainly not getting the covid vax without being held down at gunpoint.

Otherwise, my age and physical weakness preclude me getting into any physical confrontations. But I can and do resist passively as much as I can, and continue my personal ministry of making rosaries (yeah, I have to buy components, so no not-buying for me).

Posted by: empire 1 at August 24, 2021 12:22 PM (JJatH)

458
The Left is winning because it is easier to destroy civilization than build up civilization.

Posted by: Sapwolf at August 24, 2021 12:28 PM (lzEbI)

459 We did. It was over 250 years ago. We've just been asleep while all of our institutions have been infected and co-opted.

Posted by: Locke Common at August 24, 2021 12:39 PM (G1v0A)

460 You're missing the biggest reason why a rightward Long March is so unlikely. When it comes to politics, the right is lazy. You are talking about a group of people who allow their Congressional representatives to ignore every issue they campaigned on, within weeks of taking office. We couldn't hold together a Long March as far as the corner Applebees.

Posted by: RichieC at August 24, 2021 12:44 PM (SGIlW)

461 The Left is winning because it is easier to destroy civilization than build up civilization.

Posted by: Sapwolf at August 24, 2021 12:28 PM (lzEbI)

It is always easier to attack and destroy than it is to defend. This is true across all of warfare and spycraft. This is why the conservative mindset has become a death trap for us. It is a defensive mindset- it's in the name itself - it seeks to conserve.

We must replace it with a more offensive mindset - a new brand - if we are to have any hope to prevail. Reform is a good one - the reformer seeks to gain power to unfuck things that have already been ruined. It more closely fits our situation.

We need to take branding seriously. Words and symbols have power, and the ones we use have been redefined and driven into ruin.

As reformers, there's another option rather than recapturing lost institutions. We can abolish them. Start with education. It's a Democrat graft machine from top to bottom, and degree inflation keeps pushing the bottom rung of the ladder ever higher. Can we do better than the public schools and universities? It would be hard to do worse.

Posted by: Cato, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at August 24, 2021 12:50 PM (u3ux+)

462 We aren't ruthless enough. We don't have the backing of a major political party.

Posted by: JB at August 24, 2021 12:58 PM (TO8Xm)

463 FREEDOM OF SPEECH
That is the wedge. Remind them every waking moment that all of their liberal heroes were champions of free speech. Remind them time and time again that the cornerstone of CLASSICAL LIBERALISM is freedom of speech. Hold them to that standard and rub their faces in their hypocrisy whenever they deviate from it. Tell them, show them, that THEY are the intolerant monsters. If they don't care about your plea, then they truly are monsters and should be treated accordingly.

Posted by: tommylotto at August 24, 2021 01:09 PM (CRqTc)

464 A well reasoned post. We the hardy, the self reliant hardworking peoples need to strike one facet of society. Not trucking or mining nor even programm___. We need to stop sacrificing our Ives [health]. No more soldiers for your wars. No police pushing your insane penalties. Our lives our future made our way.

Posted by: MantuaBill at August 24, 2021 01:19 PM (yeg/A)

465 "A massive, long, general strike." I've advocated something like this for dealing with social media. Just get Twitter, FB, Youtube, and the rest to ban you. Force them to do it to 50% of the population. Turn them into true leftist echo chambers, with nothing for the trolls to fight against accept each other (which will happen).

Posted by: Rick Happ at August 24, 2021 01:23 PM (I6a+4)

466 Spot on.

I would just say that even though their leaders are impervious to reason, the children they are teaching are not.
Yet.
The Right could right now start summer sessions and camps to teach US History and civics the correct way. The children are our future--teach them well, pant the seed and the truth will flourish.

Posted by: pj at August 24, 2021 02:23 PM (G1dq6)

467 Joe is correct in that The Beast cannot be stabbed in the heart, nor can be killed with a thousand cuts. It can, however, be starved to death.

The left survives on EXTRACTION. Of taxpayer money, of college tuitions, by donations from philanthropists, and by other means.

If you want to destroy the leftist beast, you have to cut off it's funding. This mans not patronizing state schools and colleges, it means not using state hospitals, it means electing people who are ready and able to cut the pork barrel out of government funding to NGO, "non-profits" and Think Tanks, even their own.

The left does not create: it merely takes what it wants and redistributes as it sees fit. It does not know how to operate without extraction.

Posted by: Matt Noto at August 24, 2021 03:34 PM (ZaYq5)

468 Subversion can't fundamentally work for a cause dedicated in part to people behaving honorably (and not just doing "ends justify the means"), because it involves acting dishonorably. Not being forthright, not letting arguments in rational discourse decide things. Etc.

You can't rail about things being hijacked for things they weren't intended to do and then do it yourself. Oh, you could, but why not just cut to the chase and have the civil war, because that is where you would end up anyway, as Corcyra lived again (Thucydides, History of the Peloponnesian War, go see. Great quotes about what happens in civil war sorts of times).

Can't do a Long March...in part because you don't have to. They had to do it because the ideas would not stand the light of day. If yours...ours...can, we just need to Kirk the big speeches and make it stick.

Posted by: Baron bon Mot at August 24, 2021 03:34 PM (egOCw)

469 No reverse long march, helicopter rides for commies are what's required. That's probably why Biden left so many helicopters in Afghanistan, to slow down what must be done.

Posted by: Pinochet at August 24, 2021 03:50 PM (pA8Z1)

470 "So many conservatives just want to be left alone. I don't want to change everything, I just want to be left alone to live my life the way I want to based on my own morals and decisions."

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Well, you are not going to be left alone by the Marxists.

You may not care about politics, but politics cares about you.

Posted by: Poolside at the Decline at August 24, 2021 03:55 PM (RxXfH)

471 Go Galt.

Posted by: Rye at August 24, 2021 05:17 PM (K/m/u)

472 I commented on this concept recently. That Fabian Socialism (the Long March) worked wonderfully for the socialists and that we need some Fabian Conservatism.

However, the reason it might not work in reverse is not because of the malleable standards of socialists, but because of the Fabian element and the absolutism among most conservatives. Very few if any are able to conceive of incremental victories as they would perceive them as giving legitimacy to the rest of the current socialist plan. Look at abortion.

The constant demand is overturning Roe and a complete ban. Never mind the majority of Americans are against that, that is the requirement, and no half-measures can be tolerated. The result? A constant move to outright infanticide. Only recently have more limited restrictions been attempted and endorsed. And surprise, surprise! They have been significantly more successful.

If conservatives could accept rolling back the socialist plan a little bit at a time, one regulation here, one law there, then they might be able to manage a cumulative victory over 50-70 years. But that would mean accepting the tyrannical elements for that time, and that is anathema as a platform.

Posted by: Sam at August 24, 2021 05:34 PM (ohyxL)

473 Good, agreed. I think this approach may be getting a test run in Australia.

Posted by: jocon307 at August 24, 2021 06:18 PM (HYa+m)

474 If you understand that Progressivism (the threat underpinning communism and such, not really Marxism but full of it) is a religion, the "Long March" becomes redefined. You then understand it's a matter of *evangelism*. And we must *evangelize* to reverse it.

That goes along with the resistance and such.

If we don't evangelize Americanism (and Christianity, it's foundation) then we can't ever have a free republic again, and will be stuck with a technocracy forever.

Posted by: GWB at August 24, 2021 06:41 PM (2nnuG)

475 The only thing to do then is to preserve what little bits of what you can, where you can, when you can, with the hope that you may be able to pass some of it down in the future.

Posted by: FretlessT at August 24, 2021 08:43 PM (trUrc)

476 There's always multiple targeted assassinations but to advocate that would be wrong.

Posted by: Prickly Pete Salmonella at August 24, 2021 09:14 PM (cJqki)

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