Miami Skyscraper Partially Collapses Overnight; Officials Fear "Massive" Loss of Life

Terrible. At least one person is dead, and officials expect that number to rise dramatically as victims are found in the rubble.

Some may wonder if this is the result of a bomb. A friend of mine pointed out that any kind of bomb would have produced an explosive shockwave that everyone would have noticed. This building seems to have simply collapsed.

The building was just being inspected for structural integrity, as it just turned forty years old. It was built in 1981.

Burkett also described the building, built in 1981, as "not an old building." "There's not reason for this building to go down like that."

"It's less likely than a lightning strike. It just doesn't happen. You don't see building falling down in America," Burkett said.

But there are no reports of an explosion, so what else could it be?

One thing is certain: The multitude of Blue-Check Twitter General-Purpose Experts will be receiving their Ph.D.'s in both structural engineering and best practices in structural safety management, and will all be claiming, to man (or to a schman), that this was all Ron DeSantis' fault, as if he's on the head of the f*cking inspection crew or that he created the law that buildings have to be inspected after 40 years (rather than 30, or 35, or even 39, as the newly-minted Twitter Ph.D.'s will all be confidently informing us, picking any number smaller than 40 to pin the blame, somehow, on Ron DeSantis, Author of All Evils).

By the end of the day, the Blue-Check Twitter General-Purpose Experts, including noted Doctors of Twitter Science Dr. Guy P. Benson and Professor AllahPundit, will be calling this the DeSantis Collapse.

Video of the wreckage below.

One nice story: A ten-year-old boy was heard in the rubble, and was safely extricated.

Posted by: Ace at 01:28 PM




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1 Trump lives in Florida, so we all know whose fault this was.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 24, 2021 12:29 PM (Bmy3R)

2 First(ish)!

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 24, 2021 12:30 PM (7Fj9P)

3 May God help all those doing the searching.

The security cam video looks like those videos you see of buildings being imploded. It is utterly horrifying to watch it and realize that the building is occupied.



Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 12:30 PM (GbPPJ)

4 corgis summoned

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 24, 2021 12:30 PM (Bmy3R)

5 Pretty bizarre. Wonder if someone was cheaping out or it was some odd and unaccounted for combination of factors.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (z5Vrg)

6 Poor building standards in Miami? No way.

Posted by: Joe at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (wmXwQ)

7 I'll take a fifth.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (PiwSw)

8 Wasn't the 80's the height of narco-corruption in Florida?

Posted by: Guzalot at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (prSvo)

9 Anyone have a clue what might have caused this. The Mrs. Thinks its sinkholes

Posted by: WisRich at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (RLjn8)

10 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (Zz0t1)

11 1 Trump lives in Florida, so we all know whose fault this was.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 24, 2021 12:29 PM (Bmy3R)

Indeed. Death-Santis and Drumpf strike again!

Posted by: Thrawn at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (a+Mub)

12 See? We need TRILLIONS in INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING NOW!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (Zz0t1)

13 Built in 1981. If someone cheaped out it took a long time to manifest.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (Bmy3R)

14 Had been hearing it was a controlled demolition. I had hoped it was true.

Posted by: 496 at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (U1eOr)

15 I wonder if it's related to corrosion of the rebar inside the cement. The building is close to the ocean. Otherwise, I can't imagine the cause.

Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (v16oJ)

16 I have information that will lead to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Florida Condo at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (x7uf1)

17 At HotGas, there was an update with surveillance video of the actual collapse. It's horrific, and something out of a horror movie. You look at the concrete pilings of the surrounding buildings and just wonder why they didn't fall, too.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at June 24, 2021 12:32 PM (a/dOO)

18 "Buildings don't fall down in America"? Has this clown ever heard of the Hard Rock Hotel in Gnaw-luns? Took the imbeciles here most of a year to finish knocking it down after the collapse. The right lane of the major street in front is still closed off.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 12:32 PM (/XOcP)

19 Ho Lee Fook

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 24, 2021 12:32 PM (yrol0)

20 16 I have information that will lead to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Florida Condo at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (x7uf1)

Thread Winner in early at #16!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 24, 2021 12:32 PM (Bmy3R)

21 >>>Miami Skyscraper Partially Collapses Overnight; Officials Fear "Massive" Loss of Life



Now do DC.

Posted by: 496 at June 24, 2021 12:33 PM (U1eOr)

22 I have information that will lead to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Florida Condo

Only at AOSHQ.

Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:33 PM (v16oJ)

23 Gravity always wins.

Posted by: huerfano at June 24, 2021 12:33 PM (DzhEB)

24
There's likely some bint with a PoliSci degree from a mid-tier university on CNN right now saying that this shows the failure of unrestrained capitalism and Republicans bad.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 12:33 PM (mht8P)

25 "Buildings don't fall down in America"? Has this clown ever heard of the Hard Rock Hotel in Gnaw-luns? Took the imbeciles here most of a year to finish knocking it down after the collapse. The right lane of the major street in front is still closed off.
Posted by: W


there was a brand new bridge in miami the went tits up right after the women that built and designed it inaugurated it.

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:33 PM (rlyUr)

26 Gravity, again unfairly targets condo dwellers of colour....

//Don Le Mon

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2021 12:34 PM (Lzpvj)

27 DeSantis should shrug off their witless criticisms and do the things a governor should be doing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 12:34 PM (/XOcP)

28 High rise construction is crazy in Fla. I have worked on a few high rises in the Miami area some 20 years ago. There is simply no natural foundation like you find up north.

Posted by: Fool Otto at June 24, 2021 12:34 PM (DB16e)

29 I believe there are still bodies in the Hard Rock in New Orleans.

Anyone have a clue what might have caused this. The Mrs. Thinks its sinkholes
Posted by: WisRich at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (RLjn


That was my first thought too.

Some roof renovations have been underway and it's a center core building so the wild speculation is that something got weakened during the roof renovations and here we are.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 12:34 PM (GbPPJ)

30 A 12-storey high rise isn't exactly a 'skyscraper.'

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 24, 2021 12:34 PM (vuisn)

31 that bitch just went straight into the ground, not even any warning if you were inside.

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:34 PM (rlyUr)

32 there was a brand new bridge in miami the went tits up right after the women that built and designed it inaugurated it.
Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021


***

ISWYDT

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 12:34 PM (/XOcP)

33 Gravity always wins.
Not always.

Posted by: Neutral bouyancy at June 24, 2021 12:34 PM (v16oJ)

34 Had been hearing it was a controlled demolition. I had hoped it was true.

Posted by: 496 at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM


Wut? Controlled demolition of an occupied condo building?

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 12:35 PM (JUOKG)

35 I wonder if a car ran into one of those external pillars at 2am and initiated the collapse.

Posted by: McDirty at June 24, 2021 12:35 PM (wk1Sa)

36 3 Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 12:30 PM (GbPPJ)

Very much so, I do not hold out a lot of hope for a high % of successfully recovered survivors the heat there will make long term survival hard.

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2021 12:35 PM (Lzpvj)

37 "One thing is certain: The multitude of Blue-Check Twitter General-Purpose Experts will be receiving their Ph.D.'s in both structural engineering and best practices in structural safety management"

This is true. I was amazed at the number of IED experts we had when Clock Boy pulled his Radio Shack Cheat (it was just a clock opened up, nice fail MIT experts).

I tried to get them all to enlist for AfPak to put their skills to the test with the real thing but no, because Reasons.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 24, 2021 12:35 PM (83lwH)

38 Prayers for all involved. Hopefully the loss of life will be lower than expected.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 24, 2021 12:35 PM (2DOZq)

39 DeSantis should shrug off their witless criticisms and do the things a governor should be doing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 12:34 PM (/XOcP)

yep

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at June 24, 2021 12:36 PM (sJHOI)

40 But there are no reports of an explosion, so what else could it be?

----

Sinkhole.

Posted by: ShainS at June 24, 2021 12:36 PM (O4X3m)

41 The Insurrection Begins, obviously.

We need Common Sense Sinkhole Control.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 12:36 PM (yQpMk)

42 9 Anyone have a clue what might have caused this. The Mrs. Thinks its sinkholes
---
That was my first thought.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2021 12:36 PM (sWM8x)

43 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2021 12:36 PM (arJlL)

44 Chi nah is going to Nelson Muntz us.

Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2021 12:36 PM (J1cL/)

45 sinkhole. rumor is it was a sinkhole that took it down.

Posted by: Vyx at June 24, 2021 12:36 PM (tjZg/)

46 Cheap political Voodoodoo.

What do they call it on TVvvvv? Angered the God of gravity.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at June 24, 2021 12:36 PM (eZwXS)

47
Wait, this isn't 4586 Maple Street?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 12:36 PM (mht8P)

48 Tonight on MsLSD: "Trump Lives in Florida. Coincidence? We Don't Think So ..."

Posted by: ShainS at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (O4X3m)

49 Will be interesting to see how DeSantis handles this

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (83lwH)

50 30 Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 24, 2021 12:34 PM (vuisn)

No it is not, I am also given the almost 100% likelihood of our total defeat in academia and the protection of excellence going to be ever more wary of getting into virgin construction buildings over 3 stories tall.

Florida is the future unfortunately.

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (Lzpvj)

51 7 I'll take a fifth.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM (PiwSw)



I'll see that fifth and raise you 1.75

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (8o8kf)

52 Sinkhole.

Posted by: ShainS at June 24, 2021 12:36 PM

That's my guess too. Plenty of them just suddenly open up in Florida.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (JUOKG)

53 DeSantis should shrug off their witless criticisms and do the things a governor should be doing.
He has clearly figured that out. I wouldn't rule out surgical airstrikes on them, though.

Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (v16oJ)

54 The building was just being inspected for structural integrity, as it just turned forty years old. It was built in 1981.


Let me guess. By the parents of the Florida students who built that bridge?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (+UWHh)

55 I have information that will lead to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Florida Condo
Only at AOSHQ.
Posted by: pep

LOL !!!

I love this place !

Posted by: JT at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (arJlL)

56 Read there were short-term rentals (snowbirds rent the summer weeks) in the units. Some owners don't insist on all names for Guests, just a number (and folks fib.) It might be awhile until all the victims are identified.

Posted by: EveR at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (swdNU)

57 I feel like we're in that period of the Empire where all the incompetence we've fostered over the decades starts to cause things to just fall apart. I would expect to see this, and bridges collapsing (*kaff*) and so on, in increasing numbers.

Posted by: moviegique at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (dhFCT)

58 The perfect follow-up to the DC bridge collapse yesterday and the Memphis bridge structural failure.

I guess this is the year that we stop fucking around and just go full-on Third World?

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (0Uf+z)

59 Prayers for the victims.

Im reminded of the buildings I'd see in Turkey. A lot of questionable concrete used.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (axyOa)

60 A skyscraper is a tall continuously habitable building having multiple floors. Modern sources currently define skyscrapers as being at least 100 metres or 150 metres in height, though there is no universally accepted definition. Historically, the term first referred to buildings with between 10 and 20 stories when these types of buildings began to be constructed in the 1880s. Skyscrapers may host offices, hotels, residential spaces, and retail spaces. You may now continue.

Posted by: @SOEarpiece at June 24, 2021 12:38 PM (yQpMk)

61 I believe there are still bodies in the Hard Rock in New Orleans.
. . .
Posted by: WisRich at June 24, 2021


***
I think everyone who was there that day has been accounted for, either breathing or removed from the rubble. Still, it took the city "leaders" most of a year to get the last body out.

That location used to be the larger of the two Woolworth stores in downtown. I can't tell you how many plastic model kits I bought there or how many Cokes and grilled cheese sandwiches I consumed at their lunch counter. A big part of my adolescence is gone.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 12:38 PM (/XOcP)

62 14 Had been hearing it was a controlled demolition. I had hoped it was true.
Posted by: 496

That's retarded Sir.

A nothing condo in a nothing neighborhood justifies difficult to obtain and position demo?

Not even.

At the least a government building of some sort...

Posted by: Do the Freddy at June 24, 2021 12:38 PM (vzKmu)

63 Some of the photos seem to support the sinkhole theory.

Posted by: CDR M (Retired) at June 24, 2021 12:38 PM (cqZXM)

64 Get me accurate numbers, dammit! Should I send people and money, or did they vote for Trump?

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 24, 2021 12:38 PM (UMXod)

65 54 Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (+UWHh)

Heh TM

More seriously it was probably either a sinkhole or erosion, *or* the "snowing in Miami" building boom and grift.

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2021 12:38 PM (Lzpvj)

66 But there are no reports of an explosion, so what else could it be?


I'm not saying aliens, but,

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 12:39 PM (+UWHh)

67 It was a seismic anomaly. Happens all the time.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 24, 2021 12:39 PM (HnNKD)

68 "There is simply no natural foundation like you find up north."


If had to guess, that would be the issue. Even in Chicago by the lakeshore there are footing issues they had to learn to deal with when making skyscrapers.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 24, 2021 12:39 PM (qH6FZ)

69 57 I feel like we're in that period of the Empire where all the incompetence we've fostered over the decades starts to cause things to just fall apart. I would expect to see this, and bridges collapsing (*kaff*) and so on, in increasing numbers.
Posted by: moviegique at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (dhFCT)

I think a lot of us are expecting that but this particular situation might not end up being of that nature.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at June 24, 2021 12:39 PM (z5Vrg)

70 When the Big One hits LA there's going to be a lot of shoddy construction revealed.

Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2021 12:39 PM (J1cL/)

71
Built to the highest Soviet standards.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 12:39 PM (mht8P)

72 Wut? Controlled demolition of an occupied condo building?
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 12:35 PM (JUOKG)

I know, right?

I really hadn't checked any news... I'd heard that there was a building collapse and some commenter said it looked like a controlled explosion. I tuned it out after that.

The actual events, now that I see them, are far from a "controlled explosion of some building".

Posted by: 496 at June 24, 2021 12:40 PM (U1eOr)

73 Making concrete with sea water rots out the rebar.

Posted by: clutch at June 24, 2021 12:40 PM (9UmRs)

74 My point is that nobody calls a high rise beach condo a "skyscraper" and it's tragic enough without the need for exaggeration.

Leave that for mainstream media.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 24, 2021 12:40 PM (vuisn)

75 Had been hearing it was a controlled demolition. I had hoped it was true.

Posted by: 496 at June 24, 2021 12:31 PM


Wut? Controlled demolition of an occupied condo building?
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 12:35 PM (JUOKG)

***

Where was Dick Cheney...

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 24, 2021 12:40 PM (flINI)

76 my favorite thing about such buildings: The designers generally include maintenance specifications, which are routinely ignored.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 24, 2021 12:40 PM (2SdPm)

77 But there are no reports of an explosion, so what else could it be?


I'm not saying aliens, but,
Posted by: r


somebody said that whatshisname chipman said it was an ar with a silncer

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:40 PM (rlyUr)

78 and two .50 bmg

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:40 PM (rlyUr)

79 At the least a government building of some sort...
Posted by: Do the Freddy at June 24, 2021 12:38 PM (vzKmu)


See #72

Posted by: 496 at June 24, 2021 12:40 PM (U1eOr)

80 "There's likely some bint with a PoliSci degree from a mid-tier university on CNN right now saying that this shows the failure of unrestrained capitalism and Republicans bad."

_____________

Because the ones from a top tier university would say some shit too crazy for even CNN.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (wNDOJ)

81 We'll see how long it is until the owner of the building is brought up on charges for something relating to neglect.


God have mercy on the souls on those lost in this tragic happening.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (Zz0t1)

82 There appears to be a lot of debris on the ground compared to the still standing building. Did the collapsed tower resemble the still standing one that's on the left in the videos?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (3H9h1)

83 Could it be a sink hole?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (Zmnko)

84 Bad timing if there is actually no funds for infrastructure in the infrastructure bill

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (83lwH)

85 Posted by: @SOEarpiece at June 24, 2021 12:38 PM (yQpMk)


I think of you every time CRT comes up.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (qH6FZ)

86 The perfect follow-up to the DC bridge collapse yesterday and the Memphis bridge structural failure.


The DC bridge was old and got a "poor" structural rating, but was reported to be in no danger of collapse until the supports were hit by a truck. I know that bridge. It's a pos, and has been one for decades.

Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (v16oJ)

87
Trump recently moved to Florida.

Desantis has just legalized racism and murder.

This is the result.



Some dingbat will say it. It leaps out of their mouths like Tourette's Syndrome.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (89oGi)

88 Buildings in Fla use piles for foundational strength. In Ohio, for instance, we dig deep enough footers to hit solid ground and build up from there. It won't surprise me if they find some piles had failed over the years.

Posted by: Fool Otto at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (DB16e)

89
This should be a signal for increasing the funding for BIPOC and LGBTQ+ groups.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (mht8P)

90 Woke engineering design?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

91 "One thing is certain: The multitude of Blue-Check Twitter
General-Purpose Experts will be receiving their Ph.D.'s in both
structural engineering and best practices in structural safety management"

Just ignore them, wait 48 hours and they will move on to working on their PhDs in law, science, climate, medicine , military strategy or whatever.

Posted by: Ripley at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (MxEKc)

92 God have mercy on the souls on those lost in this tragic happening.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (Zz0t1)

Amen to that

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (Zmnko)

93 57 I feel like we're in that period of the Empire where all the incompetence we've fostered over the decades starts to cause things to just fall apart. I would expect to see this, and bridges collapsing (*kaff*) and so on, in increasing numbers.
Posted by: moviegique at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (dhFCT)
----------
This is why I don't think we'll be putting people on Mars or the Moon. If we do, the sooner the better and more likely to succeed.

Posted by: zmdavid at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (xqRaG)

94 More seriously it was probably either a sinkhole or erosion, *or* the "snowing in Miami" building boom and grift.
Posted by: sven


Shouldn't be hard to determine a sinkhole.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (+UWHh)

95 OT: Apparently Rudy Giuliani has had his Law License suspended by the NY
Supreme Court because of..."uncontroverted evidence that respondent
communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts,
lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former
President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with
Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020"

TinyURL won't let me make a tinyurl of it, but on Epoch Times website.


I guess we know how the NY Supremes' political beliefs run....

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 12:42 PM (ynpvh)

96 57 I feel like we're in that period of the Empire where all the incompetence we've fostered over the decades starts to cause things to just fall apart.

Idiocracy is here. Next they'll be tying leaning skyscrapers together with ropes.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 24, 2021 12:42 PM (Bmy3R)

97 40 year old building is relatively newish. I've watch a number of Engineering Catastrophe episodes where the engineering error is something simple but just lying dormant until it doesn't.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 24, 2021 12:42 PM (2DOZq)

98 Gentlemen, this is white supremacy made manifest. Or Manfred, as the case may be.

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 24, 2021 12:42 PM (sWM8x)

99 Shouldn't be hard to determine a sinkhole.
Posted by: r


that would be good because the building would be fine, just below ground

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:42 PM (rlyUr)

100 If Gravity is Science and Science is Racist,
Racism made the building fall down. QED.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 24, 2021 12:42 PM (PiwSw)

101 Some had dirt on the Clintons

Posted by: Vir Cotto at June 24, 2021 12:42 PM (M/Rig)

102 76 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 24, 2021 12:40 PM (2SdPm)

Especially a LOLWUT in Florida....

40 years depending on the protections of the steel supports would be just about enough time for the magic of constant high humidity to work its corrosive magic....

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2021 12:42 PM (Lzpvj)

103 hmm there are tall condos and hotels like that in Atlantic City that were built around the same time, also by possible mafia-related criminals

prayers for the poor residents. that is shocking.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (j9HX3)

104 Here is the actual collapse if it hasn't been posted already

https://bit.ly/2T2bzMI

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (yQpMk)

105 Weird that this would happen with no warning at all.
Almost certainly not a deliberate act, because if it were the terrorists would have claimed blame by now.

I wonder if one of Florida's famous sinkholes might have opened up underneath it?

Posted by: jdgalt at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (3SFo/)

106 "Making concrete with sea water rots out the rebar."

Aha sea level rise, so pitch Global Warming Doom in 5 4 3

Posted by: Hoyt's CNN Producer at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (83lwH)

107 Time for a National Conversation and some legislation to enact Common-Sense Gravity Control.

Posted by: Speed Racer's Banana Hammock at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (5npD/)

108 You'll see more of this as white supremacist engineering is done away with. 2+2 is subjective, y'all.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (Mzdiz)

109 This is why I don't think we'll be putting people on
Mars or the Moon. If we do, the sooner the better and more likely to
succeed.

Posted by: zmdavid at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM

If we somehow manage to put a colony on mars or the Moon, they had better be prepared to be abandoned because they will be.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (JUOKG)

110 It was a seismic anomaly. Happens all the time.
Has anyone checked for Russian submarines?

Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (v16oJ)

111 I'm sure that a black hole appeared and pulled that building down.

Posted by: Don Lemon at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (AiZBA)

112 I hate to say this, but this came within 24 hours of President Al Zheimer talking about how the government was all powerful with its nukes and f-15's.

Maybe we'll find out, maybe we won't.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain wants a Real Truth and Reconciliation Commision at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (T6h+i)

113 Funny, it doesn't look Newish.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (Bmy3R)

114 100 If Gravity is Science and Science is Racist,

Racism made the building fall down. QED.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 24, 2021 12:42 PM (PiwSw)

Only if all science is racist.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

115 Sources tell me that Israelis were warned not to spend the night at this condo 1 week in advance of the collapse

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (flINI)

116 If the transportation of interstate sinkholes were banned, we would never have seen this happen.

Posted by: Blor Utar, from Zimtok-5 at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (xxG/v)

117 109 This is why I don't think we'll be putting people on
Mars or the Moon. If we do, the sooner the better and more likely to
succeed.

Posted by: zmdavid at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM

If we somehow manage to put a colony on mars or the Moon, they had better be prepared to be abandoned because they will be.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (JUOKG)

Sounds like we need a plan to get essential political and corporate leadership into a space colony ASAP.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (z5Vrg)

118 God have mercy on the souls on those lost in this tragic happening.
Posted by: Sponge


Amen. I may riff on what happened, but I, in no way, mean to diminish what happened to the people.

Which is also why I don't buy controlled demo. You don't demo an occupied building.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (+UWHh)

119 When the Big One hits LA there's going to be a lot of shoddy construction revealed.
Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2021 12:39 PM (J1cL/)


When New Madrid goes off again, huge swathes of towns are just going to be flattened. I had to explain to someone who moved to Nashville from LA just why it was that her new high rise apartment complex had to meet the same earthquake codes as LA. She'd never heard of New Madrid.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (GbPPJ)

120 Einstuerzende nicht-so-Neubauten.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (vuisn)

121 this is because of the shock explsins they did with the Ford

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (rlyUr)

122 Sinkhole?

Posted by: Aggie at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (LilNs)

123 106 Posted by: Hoyt's CNN Producer at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (83lwH)

Ta-da....

Go go go Goreons!

My darkhorse bet is NIST finds that there were some decisions made that were not quite up to code....

there were a lot of 10,000 dollar trunks floating around then.

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (Lzpvj)

124 Sinkholes and graft in the original construction/inspections?

One would think there were early warning signs if it was a sinkhole ... some cracks maybe ... but maybe not. Could have been a large eroded cavern just gave way ... momentum did the rest.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (Cus5s)

125 I'm not qualified to say whether a sinkhole caused the collapse but South Florida is not prone to sinkholes compared to other areas of the state.

Posted by: mr tmz at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (m/Gc2)

126 73 Making concrete with sea water rots out the rebar.
Posted by: clutch at June 24, 2021 12:40 PM (9UmRs)

The was a common grout used to patch over post tension cables that was very very basic and also leeched water into the patch. Many pedestrian bridges built that way have been torn down and replaced.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 24, 2021 12:45 PM (yrol0)

127 be a lot of shoddy construction revealed.

Seem to recall article about substitute standard welding rod used in construction, that brittle welds would let go and steel beams would become detached catastrophically.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 24, 2021 12:45 PM (2hwdC)

128 https://tinyurl.com/yejq4zkn

"It's a stick can you even DRIVE this?"

Posted by: JEM at June 24, 2021 12:45 PM (8erNz)

129 God have mercy on the souls on those lost in this tragic happening.

And grant peace to those left behind.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 24, 2021 12:45 PM (U7wke)

130 I wonder if a sinkhole is some how involved, enough to make the structure unstable.

Posted by: Beartooth at June 24, 2021 12:45 PM (yAio1)

131 119 Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (GbPPJ)

I'm pumped for the New Madrid Fault to be the Yellow Stone Caldera's Running Mate in 2024.

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2021 12:45 PM (Lzpvj)

132 This is why I don't think we'll be putting people on Mars or the Moon. If we do, the sooner the better and more likely to succeed.
Posted by: zmdavid at June 24, 2021


***
Luna City should have been founded by 1980 and Marsopolis by 1990, and we should be mining and exploring the outer planets and the cometary halo by now. Instead? We have a welfare state.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 12:45 PM (/XOcP)

133 President Al Zheimer


Golf clap.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 12:45 PM (+UWHh)

134 In SF there's that hideously expensive residential tower that is sinking on its foundation. Marbles roll across the apartment floors.

Lots of concrete injected into foundation but it's tipped.

Who would live within miles of its footprint? Nuts

Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2021 12:45 PM (J1cL/)

135 If Gravity is Science and Science is Racist,
Racism made the building fall down. QED.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 24, 2021 12:42 PM (PiwSw)

----------

No, no. Math is racist. Math.

Science is pure, unfiltered benevolence, milked directly from the teat of the universe...

Posted by: Speed Racer's Banana Hammock at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (5npD/)

136 110 It was a seismic anomaly. Happens all the time.
Has anyone checked for Russian submarines?
Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (v16oJ)

One ping only.

Posted by: Roy at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (Ti+Tv)

137 116 If the transportation of interstate sinkholes were banned, we would never have seen this happen.

Posted by: Blor Utar, from Zimtok-5 at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (xxG/v)

Not enough sinkhole control.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (ynpvh)

138 in fairness, florida is known for shoddy constructin and bldg cds.

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (rlyUr)

139 In the Google Earth view, it seems that there is considerable construction going on in the empty lot next door.

Posted by: motionview - saying WIV Flu and now Structural Engineer at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (RKp8A)

140 Here is the actual collapse if it hasn't been posted already

https://bit.ly/2T2bzMI
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (yQpMk)


Thanks G'rump.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (Ez6QX)

141 FL governor in 1981....
Bob Graham (D)

Posted by: McCool at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (BqBIh)

142 Which is also why I don't buy controlled demo. You don't demo an occupied building.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (+UWHh)


If you watch the surveillance video, it looks like a controlled demolition. It's not, not at all, but I can see why people are saying that's what it looks like.

If it is a sinkhole, those other buildings are likely going to get swallowed up too.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (GbPPJ)

143 I'm not qualified to say whether a sinkhole caused the collapse but
South Florida is not prone to sinkholes compared to other areas of the
state.

Okay it was a cenote. Aztec revenge.

Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (v16oJ)

144 Okay, I see I'm not the only sinkhole comment.

Posted by: Beartooth at June 24, 2021 12:47 PM (yAio1)

145 86 The DC bridge was old and got a "poor" structural rating, but was reported to be in no danger of collapse until the supports were hit by a truck. I know that bridge. It's a pos, and has been one for decades.

That's what happens to failing empires in the latter stages of collapse. They lose the ability and will to maintain the civilized works and standards of their ancestors, and so everything around them to crumbles and decays and reverts back to a primitive state.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 24, 2021 12:47 PM (0Uf+z)

146 137 116 If the transportation of interstate sinkholes were banned, we would never have seen this happen.

Posted by: Blor Utar, from Zimtok-5 at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (xxG/v)

Not enough sinkhole control.


attack sinkholes. they have the thing that goes down.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at June 24, 2021 12:47 PM (v3pYe)

147 OT/ but joe says he's made a deal on infrastructure with the Repubs? I bet we're gonna take it up the old wazoo

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2021 12:47 PM (Zmnko)

148 1981? Let me guess, the building was built by shitty sub contractors using shitty impure steel from china and cutting corners at every step. Oh, and the illegals who poured the foundation fudged the pour, making the entire building unlevel from the day it went up until bolts started popping 40 years later. Like most new buildings built in the US.

That said, it is pretty unheard of for a building to just ... collapse in the US.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 12:47 PM (UPoLF)

149 >>If Gravity is Science and Science is Racist,...


I am not racist.

Posted by: Saint Fauci at June 24, 2021 12:47 PM (Ti+Tv)

150 m not qualified to say whether a sinkhole caused the collapse but
South Florida is not prone to sinkholes compared to other areas of the
state.


what is somebody that should have stayed in a holiday inn for 100?

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:47 PM (rlyUr)

151 #132 I would give up everything I have to put JEF on a trip to Mars.

Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (J1cL/)

152 The vid looked like the top floors began the collapse first .

Posted by: Just a side note at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (2DOZq)

153 My theory: Invisible Godzilla

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (d9FiS)

154
I'm not qualified to say

________

You could be on a discussion panel on MSNBC then!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (mht8P)

155 "I'm pumped for the New Madrid Fault to be the Yellow Stone Caldera's Running Mate in 2024."

________________

I, for one, approve of this disrespectful taunting of SMOD.

More please.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (wNDOJ)

156 Luna City should have been founded by 1980 and Marsopolis by 1990, and we should be mining and exploring the outer planets and the cometary halo by now. Instead? We have a welfare state.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 12:45 PM (/XOcP)

----------

And TikTok.

And 73 genders.

Posted by: Speed Racer's Banana Hammock at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (5npD/)

157 They are going after Rudy because Trump, but also it's an effort to un-person him so they His Name Shall Not Be Mentioned during the upcoming commemoration of the 20th anniversary of 9/11.

Posted by: China at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (mR6Gs)

158 That's what happens to failing empires in the latter stages of collapse. They lose the ability and will to maintain the civilized works and standards of their ancestors, and so everything around them to crumbles and decays and reverts back to a primitive state.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 24, 2021 12:47 PM (0Uf+z)

Yep. Also happens in shitty corrupt countries like China. Every building there feels like it's going to collapse. You can see how unlevel everything is based on how the windows all have a few inches of caulking on one side of the frame, and are snuggly fit on the other side.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (UPoLF)

159 > It just doesn't happen. You don't see building falling down in America," Burkett said.


uh, yeah ya do

have 'the truthers' come out of their holes yet?

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM (iTXRQ)

160 This is why tent cities are preferable dwellings for humans. Capitalism and engineering kill.

Posted by: Czech Chick at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM (haWye)

161 it was a blackhol, when they get to the bottm they ae going to find the wrckage from malysian 370.

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM (rlyUr)

162 Warm air doesn't melt concrete!!

Posted by: Dr. Rosiland O'Donnell at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM (flINI)

163 OT/ but joe says he's made a deal on infrastructure with the Repubs? I bet we're gonna take it up the old wazoo
Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2021 12:47 PM (Zmnko)


So the Bee prophecy of Republicans responding to the 6 trillion bill with a 5.9 trillion bill is going to be fulfilled.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM (GbPPJ)

164 If you or a loved one have been diagnosed with mesolthelioma had a building fall down while you were in it, you may be entitled to a cash settlement.

Posted by: Lionel Hutz at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM (QU5/8)

165 Gravity Always Wins

Posted by: Isaac Newton and Radiohead. at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM (mR6Gs)

166 There is video (I believe from a neighboring security camera) that captured the actual collapse: https://bit.ly/35MIM1h

It looks almost like an implosion, but sure doesn't look like any explosives were involved. There was construction of a building next door, but it looks like that was completed one or two years ago. It appears to be unaffected.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM (wtvvX)

167 119 When the Big One hits LA there's going to be a lot of shoddy Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2021 12:39 PM (J1cL/)


When New Madrid goes off again, huge swathes of towns are just going
to be flattened. I had to explain to someone who moved to Nashville
from LA just why it was that her new high rise apartment complex had to
meet the same earthquake codes as LA. She'd never heard of New Madrid.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (GbPPJ)

Not to mention that when the southern San Andreas rips, LA's gonna jiggle like a bowl of jelly for minutes after the quake has passed. There was a simulation of how bad the shaking would be form a 7.8 hitting. New Madrid large event recurrence interval is estimated at 500yr+, so although that doesn't mean they WON'T have a big quake in the next 30 or so years, the probability is quite small.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

168 While it wouldn't have had an impact in this case, imagine if any of the trillions of dollars spent on "infrastructure" over the past few decades had been spent on actual infrastructure.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM (U7wke)

169 There must be hundreds of fatalities.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 12:50 PM (yQpMk)

170 Congress just took that infrastructure bill back into the pig sty to tack on a few hundred more billion. Can't let a crisis go to waste.

Posted by: Roy at June 24, 2021 12:50 PM (Ti+Tv)

171 My theory: Invisible Godzilla
Impossible. You'd be able to see the footprints.

Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:50 PM (v16oJ)

172 155 Posted by: McLurkerson at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (wNDOJ)

It is time to accept that SMOD let us down, do we want to relitigate SMOD the only successful ELE of the last 67 million years or go with a vibrant young up and comer?

Posted by: sven at June 24, 2021 12:50 PM (Lzpvj)

173 Come on... Trump moved to Florida... now buildings are collapsing... NEAR where Ivanka is staying!

Clearly it was insurrecitonists!

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2021 12:50 PM (oHd/0)

174 Global Warming.....and TRUMP!

Posted by: Roland THTG at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (F4y8l)

175 Can't do basic maintenance of infrastructure: Check
Decadent, incompetent elites: Check
Obsession with pointless, meaningless things: Check
We are the epitome of an empire heading towards collapse.


Posted by: 18-1 at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (DpkTQ)

176 1981? Let me guess, the building was built by shitty sub contractors using shitty impure steel from china and cutting corners at every step. Oh, and the illegals who poured the foundation fudged the pour, making the entire building unlevel from the day it went up until bolts started popping 40 years later. Like most new buildings built in the US.

That said, it is pretty unheard of for a building to just ... collapse in the US.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 12:47 PM (UPoLF)

-------------

Awesome! I'll fire up the old "none of this would have happened if the labor force had been unionized" trope...

Posted by: CNN Staff Writer at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (5npD/)

177 139 In the Google Earth view, it seems that there is considerable construction going on in the empty lot next door.
Posted by: motionview - saying WIV Flu and now Structural Engineer at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (RKp8A)

Wouldn't shock me if the foundation was originally poured shittily on sand, and construction work nearby undermined the sand foundation of the building.

I'm sure we'll find out what happened in a few years.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (UPoLF)

178 #147 infrastructure bill DOA in House

Pelosi says won't sign unless Senate ditches filibuster. I say we need a filibuster in the House too. The less legislation the better.

Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (J1cL/)

179 the thing is is, if you get a globe and trace a line at the same lat /long exactly half way around, exactly opposite that building is the wuhan bat lab factory.

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (rlyUr)

180
imagine if any of the trillions of dollars spent on "infrastructure" over the past few decades had been spent on actual infrastructure.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM (U7wke)

__________

Hey, you got a snazzy sign saying something was going to be built.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (mht8P)

181 Woke engineering design?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (ynpvh)


Unlikely. The building was built 40 years ago, before the current woke craze. This is more likely shoddy construction, corruption, and poor maintenance.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (jOcSX)

182 Some years ago an elevated, hotel, dance floor collapsed.
Initial investigation determined that harmonic resonance was the cause.

It was later determined to be a design flaw. The stress supporting beams were held in place by one pin/bolt each.

The engineers had intended the support to be redundant, however, the error passed many layers of scrutiny.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (bFHf8)

183 171 My theory: Invisible Godzilla
Impossible. You'd be able to see the footprints.
Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:50 PM (v16oJ)


Alternate theory: Tank Abrams twerking nearby.

I'll show myself out.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (PiwSw)

184 171 My theory: Invisible Godzilla
Impossible. You'd be able to see the footprints.
Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:50 PM (v16oJ)

Yes, its the Stay Puft Marshmellow Man.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (oHd/0)

185

Spread around a few 8-balls and things get done.

Can't imagine the horror....

I watched a vio on Fascinating Horror the other day about a Canadian mall collapse...perhaps not placing a parking garage on top of the mall would have been a better idea, with all the salt and weight.



Posted by: Senator Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (NuVOb)

186 It just doesn't happen. You don't see building falling down in America," Burkett said.


I think he means "as a regular occurrence and he's right. Consider the number of buildings here and how many new ones are going up at any given time.

Posted by: Isaac Newton and Radiohead. at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (mR6Gs)

187 OT/ but joe says he's made a deal on infrastructure with the Repubs? I bet we're gonna take it up the old wazoo

______________

I like to think of this trillion dollar "Deal" as a down payment of the bazillion dollars it's going to end up being after the grift dries up and nothing actually gets fixed.

Posted by: McLurkerson at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (wNDOJ)

188 Awesome! I'll fire up the old "none of this would have happened if the labor force had been unionized" trope...
Posted by: CNN Staff Writer at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (5npD/)

Ooh, good call. That will most likely be the narrative if it turns out to be due to poor construction. I hadn't even thought that far ahead.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (UPoLF)

189 Seem to recall a parking structure in Santa Monica circa 1988 where the concrete pour was so shoddy it had to be demolished and rebuilt.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (2hwdC)

190 I don't know anything about construction. In a place where there are sinkholes, are there requirements to create boreholes or use ground radar or some other method of checking to see if your construction is safe?

Does anyone know?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (YYlyE)

191 There must be hundreds of fatalities.
Posted by: G'rump928


nowhere near that

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (rlyUr)

192 18 "Buildings don't fall down in America"? Has this clown ever heard of
the Hard Rock Hotel in Gnaw-luns? Took the imbeciles here most of a
year to finish knocking it down after the collapse. The right lane of
the major street in front is still closed off.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 12:32 PM (/XOcP)


They kept the Saenger open though!
When working my office window overlooked the Rault Center. Only took 40+ years to restore it. The Howard Building is shedding now.


Posted by: Javems at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (8SSHh)

193 50-odd units (initial reports were giving the much larger *total occupancy* when only a quad collapsed). Apt. occupancy is much lower than houses.

Sure feels weird to "hope" the death number will be below 150.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (Bmy3R)

194 Were the Chinese putting up condos in FL forty years ago??

Posted by: andycanuck at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (UHVv4)

195 My theory: Invisible Godzilla
Impossible. You'd be able to see the footprints.
Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:50 PM (v16oJ)

***

And the ear piercing shrieks

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (flINI)

196 homemade tortilla soup in the 70 degree Berkshires

purty fucking sweet

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (8o8kf)

197 It just doesn't happen. You don't see building falling down in America," Burkett said.

-
You do during the.President Sinkhole administration.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (d9FiS)

198 I, for one, approve of this disrespectful taunting of SMOD.

More please.
Posted by: McLurkerson at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (wNDOJ)

**********

Hey! What about me? Am I just chopped liver compared to the other two?

Posted by: Carrington Event, Soon to be coming to a planet near you? at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (xxG/v)

199

In Socialist Country building collapse on You!

Posted by: Jerkoff Smirnoff at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (ND961)

200 "Sinkholes and graft in the original construction/inspections?"
Graft is infrastructure!

Posted by: Ripley at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (MxEKc)

201 https://tinyurl.com/2spyjv3v
OAN link
Saint Fauci's NIH was deleting data related to covid early last year. Covid 19 was circulating in the public long before it was announced.

Posted by: Fool Otto at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (DB16e)

202 "That said, it is pretty unheard of for a building to just ... collapse in the US."

Yeah, get ready to start hearing a lot of things that were previously unheard of in the US as we slide into the death spiral of imperial collapse.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (0Uf+z)

203 Will the Hoover dam collapse next?

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (2hwdC)

204 There must be hundreds of fatalities.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 12:50 PM (yQpMk)


They're saying so far 51 people missing. Please, God, let that number not go higher.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (GbPPJ)

205 #168 an ocean of government infrastructure money wouldn't have resulted in that condo building not falling AT THE SPEED OF GRAVITY!!!!

Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (J1cL/)

206 You do during the.President Sinkhole administration.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (d9FiS)

True.. This is just one of the many horrors we've had under joe and ho

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (Zmnko)

207 *considers the massive amounts of solid granite underfoot*

*gives thanks for the massive amounts of solid granite underfoot*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (m+jkK)

208 There is exactly no way we can know the answer to why until a thorough investigation is done. I would suspect something at the top of the building since we have a pancake but it could just as easily been in issue with foundations, which I assume are either piers or caissons, since this is a beach location with crappy soil and almost no bearing capacity. For piers or caissons to fail, it would require either infiltration from sea water to crack the concrete and rust the rebar, or some sort of displacement, which would mean sinkhole or seismic activity (doubtful, there). Since the fault occurred along a joint in the building, it is also possible that water may have infiltrated along an expansion joint, particularly since the roof was finally being worked on, and that may have affected steel connections. Without seeing the structural design, those are my first impressions.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (SDdx5)

209 140 Here is the actual collapse if it hasn't been posted already


https://bit.ly/2T2bzMI

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (yQpMk)


Thanks G'rump.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (Ez6QX)

Holy Shi'ite. If occupied, I would gander LOTS more than a few dead.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 12:54 PM (ynpvh)

210 I saw this vid earlier this morning - CCTV of the collapse from a nearby complex:

https://youtu.be/KR29pLccutY

My guess is a sinkhole right off the bat, but I'm only an expert when I'm on twatter.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 24, 2021 12:54 PM (wAnMi)

211 >It is time to accept that SMOD let us down



SMOD is AINO

Apocalypse In Name Only

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 24, 2021 12:54 PM (iTXRQ)

212
Even in Chicago by the lakeshore there are footing issues they had to learn to deal with when making skyscrapers.
Posted by: lowandslow


Saw that in a Kolchak episode.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 24, 2021 12:54 PM (63Dwl)

213 205 #168 an ocean of government infrastructure money wouldn't have resulted in that condo building not falling AT THE SPEED OF GRAVITY!!!!
Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (J1cL/)

Ackshully, gravity causes acceleration.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 24, 2021 12:54 PM (Y5qcH)

214 Half of the building sheared away.

Was it built as two independent buildings?

Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2021 12:54 PM (bFHf8)

215 Methinks Evil Sink Hole is responsible.

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 24, 2021 12:54 PM (NQJ5P)

216 Some years ago an elevated, hotel, dance floor collapsed.

Initial investigation determined that harmonic resonance was the cause.

I remember that. It's one reason I never feel comfortable in large venues like stadia. Tens of thousands of people moving rhythmically is a prescription for disaster.

Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:54 PM (v16oJ)

217 143 I'm not qualified to say whether a sinkhole caused the collapse but

South Florida is not prone to sinkholes compared to other areas of the

state.
Okay it was a cenote. Aztec revenge.


Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 12:46 PM (v16oJ)

cenotes are the revenge of SMOD, 65million B.C.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

218 203 Will the Hoover dam collapse next?
Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (2hwdC)

Nope. That one was actually engineered properly.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (SDdx5)

219 It looks to me like the footings on the side facing the camera just gave way. And that caused the second part to collapse in the same direction.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (yQpMk)

220 has anybody had a min to se how guam is doing?

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (rlyUr)

221 *gives thanks for the massive amounts of solid granite underfoot*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (m+jkK)

Watch out for Radon poisoning.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (Y5qcH)

222 189 Seem to recall a parking structure in Santa Monica circa 1988 where the concrete pour was so shoddy it had to be demolished and rebuilt.
Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (2hwdC)

Yeah, it happens. Usually it's caught before a building collapses though.

As some of you know, I used to work residential construction, and I had more than one foundation pour where the concrete was either way too soupy or started to harden like immediately, and everything had to be jack hammered out and we had to start all over again.

I've heard horror stories about big commercial buildings having the same problem (but on a much bigger scale, obviously.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (UPoLF)

223 Awesome! I'll fire up the old "none of this would have happened if the labor force had been unionized" trope...
Posted by: CNN Staff Writer at June 24, 2021 12:51 PM (5npD/)

Ooh, good call. That will most likely be the narrative if it turns out to be due to poor construction. I hadn't even thought that far ahead.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

We need a Bingo card.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (OssQ4)

224 Nope. That one was actually engineered properly.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (SDdx5)


I had read that the concrete pour was so massive that parts are still curing inside.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (yQpMk)

225 Structural failure is a funny thing. A flawed component can work correctly 1000 times, but give it just the wrong stress at the wrong time, and the whole thing can simply fall apart.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (ZIoLS)

226 If your erection lasts longer than forty years, call your structural engineer...

Posted by: Muldoon at June 24, 2021 12:56 PM (Fc5rx)

227 Pretty sure all the tenants were Joe Biden supporters.

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 24, 2021 12:56 PM (NQJ5P)

228 Ackshully, gravity causes acceleration.

There is no gravity. The earth sucks.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at June 24, 2021 12:56 PM (SchxB)

229 Hope they find more survivors.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 24, 2021 12:56 PM (wezs4)

230 Some years ago an elevated, hotel, dance floor collapsed.

Initial investigation determined that harmonic re


that was the walkway in the hyatt? in kansas city, the hr was a thing, however, there was an issue with the constructin.

the suspensin was not built to design

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 12:56 PM (rlyUr)

231 Here is the actual collapse if it hasn't been posted already
https://bit.ly/2T2bzMI
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (yQpMk)


Just posted the same - that thing went straight down. Why my guess would be sinkhole - but I'm certainly not familiar with the area. I'd think they'd do periodic checks, then again all those corvettes were lost a few years ago. Don't know how close this is to the water - but I'd sure think there's easily crappy-ass construction and even more under-the-table money in a state like HI.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 24, 2021 12:57 PM (wAnMi)

232 Will Kamala visit the survivors and comfort them?

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 24, 2021 12:57 PM (NQJ5P)

233 Covid 19 was circulating in the public long before it was announced.
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I'm pretty sure I had it between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I know I had something I've never had before.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2021 12:57 PM (sWM8x)

234 *gives thanks for the massive amounts of solid granite underfoot*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (m+jkK)

Watch out for Radon poisoning.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM


We're not supposed to glow like this?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 12:57 PM (m+jkK)

235 I'm on the move.

Posted by: Bermuda Triangle at June 24, 2021 12:57 PM (vkS2Z)

236 214 Half of the building sheared away.

Was it built as two independent buildings?
Posted by: Braenyard at June 24, 2021 12:54 PM (bFHf

To me, and I'm no structural engineer, it looks like it was framed so that the weight was on the outer walls, with a center support. So one outer wall failed, but the other and the center support did not.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 12:57 PM (UPoLF)

237 Reading "Enemies, Foreign and Domestic," which makes me think any occurrence such as this has the ATF and FBI behind the curtain.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at June 24, 2021 12:57 PM (4ZE6o)

238 >>Awesome! I'll fire up the old "none of this would have happened if the labor force had been unionized" trope...
Posted by: CNN Staff Writer


or more diverse, sexfreak-wise

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 24, 2021 12:58 PM (iTXRQ)

239 Two words: black hole.

Posted by: Don Le Mon at June 24, 2021 12:58 PM (d9FiS)

240 They kept the Saenger open though!
When working my office window overlooked the Rault Center. Only took 40+ years to restore it. The Howard Building is shedding now.

Posted by: Javems at June 24, 2021


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I had to look that up -- I've never known the name of that triangle-shaped building there on Howard Ave. I used to work in Plaza Tower nearby, but it's been empty for years and is "shedding," as you put it, onto the surrounding streets.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 12:58 PM (/XOcP)

241
Daily Mail says 35 survivors, 1 confirmed dead, and 51 more people missing.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 24, 2021 12:58 PM (Mzdiz)

242 Prayers definitely are in order for the people in that building and mine have been sent.

I'm not a structural engineer (though I did pass my statics class eons ago) but I seem to recall that when one floor in a tall building goes, it is possible that those below it won't be able to withstand the additional forces and so the building pancakes.

Posted by: Blor Utar, from Zimtok-5 at June 24, 2021 12:58 PM (xxG/v)

243 157 They are going after Rudy because Trump, but also it's an effort to
un-person him so they His Name Shall Not Be Mentioned during the
upcoming commemoration of the 20th anniversary of 9/11.Posted by: China at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (mR6Gs)

The court ruling says specifically: "These false statments were made to improperly bolster respondent's narrative that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 United States presidential election was stolen from his client. We conclude that respondent's conduct immediately threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law..."

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 12:58 PM (ynpvh)

244 We need a Bingo card.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (OssQ4)


Ace is missing a potential income source. Or better yet, have Pixy make an app for smart phones, so the bingo card can be modified as needed. And optional drinking game...

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 24, 2021 12:58 PM (wAnMi)

245 And the ear piercing shrieks
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 24, 2021 12:52 PM (

Hey, keep us out of this one.

Posted by: Sasquatch at June 24, 2021 12:58 PM (yAio1)

246 >Will Kamala visit the survivors and comfort them?


only if they are LGBT POC

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (iTXRQ)

247 "Structural failure is a funny thing. A flawed component can work correctly 1000 times, but give it just the wrong stress at the wrong time, and the whole thing can simply fall apart."

Reminds me of Bill Whittle's famous Tribes post, with the engineer's lament: "sometimes things fail and please don't let it be my bridge"

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (83lwH)

248 A few years ago an arch over a highway in Miami collapsed and killed a number of people. The website of the architect company responsible for the arch proudly displayed its devotion to diversity, but no word on the company's competence. Just sayin'...

Posted by: Kevin at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (N27u/)

249 So, in looking at the video of the collapse, it gives the magnitude, and it's much bigger than I thought.

Wow.

So, any bets the building has had a history of moaning and groaning in weird ways the last few months or years?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (2SdPm)

250

HAARP has been fired up for the last couple of days. Coincidence? (cue X-Files theme).

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (Mzdiz)

251 Looks like some wetbacks graduated from roofing, tiling, deck makin and mowin

now into condos construction

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (8o8kf)

252 You know, there's a whole field of engineering failure analysis that none of these Twitterati have any idea exists...and catastrophic failures do occur sometimes without any political reasons...just saying.

Posted by: Si vis pacem fac bellum at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (tfCQg)

253 I think this is one of those stories where everyone finds their personal and political bogeyman guilty. The Marxists will say it's the fault of worker exploitation and lax State code enforcement. Some on our side will say it's poor engineering and new math. The wokesters will blame the patriarchy.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (vFEa1)

254 By the end of the day, the Blue-Check Twitter General-Purpose Experts, including noted Doctors of Twitter Science Dr. Guy P. Benson and Professor AllahPundit, will be calling this the DeSantis Collapse.

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Ace, that you have noticed their politicization of everything as a way to defeat Republicans means that you are a partisan only interested in politicizing everything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (LvTSG)

255
Remember Affrmative Action engineering students.

Y=MX + racism...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (s2VJv)

256 I guess this is the year that we stop fucking around and just go full-on Third World?
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Isn't there a private Metro linr under the Capitol in D.C., just for Uni-party types?
Asking for a friend...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (7Fj9P)

257 I had read that the concrete pour was so massive that parts are still curing inside.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (yQpMk)

It is. And there are at least two bodies in those pours. OSHA didn't exist then.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (SDdx5)

258 "These false statments

Who says they were false?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (Zmnko)

259 253 I think this is one of those stories where everyone finds their personal and political bogeyman guilty. The Marxists will say it's the fault of worker exploitation and lax State code enforcement. Some on our side will say it's poor engineering and new math. The wokesters will blame the patriarchy.
Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (vFEa1)

=========

We all know it's the Old Gods.

Don't deny it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (LvTSG)

260 Saw that in a Kolchak episode.
Vampire graves undermining skyscrapers??

I guess that's why he moved to L.A.

BTW, "The Sentry"... An underground data-storage facility uncovers a problem when they excavate a tunnel for a new wing. Carl investigates the deaths of several employees of the facility who appeared to have been killed by a wild animal, and he discovers a rampaging reptile that has been disturbed by the digging of the tunnel. As Kolchak tries to stay one step ahead of the law, the beast continues its assault on the facility, destroying anything and everything in its quest for the eggs that have been stolen from its nest.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (UHVv4)

261 The court ruling says specifically: "These false statements.."

How did a court determine they were false statements?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (83lwH)

262 New Madrid large event recurrence interval is
estimated at 500yr+, so although that doesn't mean they WON'T have a big
quake in the next 30 or so years, the probability is quite small.


Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 12:49 PM

That's like trying to explain to some idiot when a 500 year flood event happens and they say "what happened, the last 500 year flood here was only 120 years ago".

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (JUOKG)

263 157 They are going after Rudy because Trump, but also it's an effort to un-person him so they His Name Shall Not Be Mentioned during the upcoming commemoration of the 20th anniversary of 9/11.
Posted by: China at June 24, 2021 12:48 PM (mR6Gs)

I hate NY

Posted by: clutch at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (9UmRs)

264 I don't buy controlled demo. You don't demo an occupied building.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (+UWHh)

unless the people floating that theory didn't know the building was occupied at the time. i can believe that. you see a buildinggo down in what looks like mostly controlled, and it's dark, and yeah, i can see that float around, until you hear it was actually occupied...

then the question becomes rusted rebar or sinkhole? and i'm not sure on that account.

but prayers up for all involved.


and bonus laughs for the clinton joke. going to steal that one...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (8D42x)

265 I'm not a structural engineer (though I did pass my statics class eons ago) but I seem to recall that when one floor in a tall building goes, it is possible that those below it won't be able to withstand the additional forces and so the building pancakes.
Posted by: Blor Utar, from Zimtok-5 at June 24, 2021 12:58 PM (xxG/v)
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That's basically what happened to the Twin Towers on 9/11. The miracle was how long the buildings still remained erect after they had both been hit by jet planes.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (ZIoLS)

266 Covid 19 was circulating in the public long before it was announced.
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I'm pretty sure I had it between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I know I had something I've never had before.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2021


***
Same here, early Dec. 2019. Normally my colds and flu attacks begin in my throat and work their way up. This started as an ache in my upper jaw, where the teeth have been removed, and developed from there. The Urgent Care doc thought it was bacterial sinusitis, and gave me an antibiotic which cleared things up. But what if that was just riding along with the coof?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (/XOcP)

267 Yep, nobody expects a building in the USA just to go down like that. You would think people would have noticed cracks and the like previously rather than just a collapse. I wonder if a sink hole is forming, but we will hear in a few months what the official word is. Prayers all around.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (r+sAi)

268 Have heard Hoover dam has such intense hydrostatic pressure that some maintenance tunnels "weep"

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (2hwdC)

269
We all know it's the Old Gods.

Don't deny it.
----------------------
Snort. Don't go into the light, mmmkay?

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 24, 2021 01:01 PM (NQJ5P)

270 I am not saying anything until guy bensn weighs in.

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 01:01 PM (rlyUr)

271 So, any bets the building has had a history of moaning and groaning in weird ways the last few months or years?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (2SdPm)

I would almost guarantee that to be the case. Or like windows not opening / shutting properly, or cracks mysteriously developing, or elevators grinding, or whatever.

I doubt this happened out of nowhere.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:01 PM (UPoLF)

272 The Marxists will say it's the fault of worker exploitation and lax State code enforcement. Some on our side will say it's poor engineering and new math. The wokesters will blame the patriarchy.
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Just don't blame us!!

Posted by: FL Structural Engineering Corp, a woman/minority owned business at June 24, 2021 01:01 PM (7Fj9P)

273 >Isn't there a private Metro linr under the Capitol in D.C., just for Uni-party types?
Asking for a friend...

I think Congress does have their own private Metro stop


unless I'm wrong

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 24, 2021 01:01 PM (iTXRQ)

274 Reminder: damage to the unit does not affect the obligation of the unit owner to pay monthly assessments.

Posted by: Your condo board at June 24, 2021 01:01 PM (vN+oL)

275 The court ruling says specifically: "These false statements.."



How did a court determine they were false statements?



Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM

No court in the US had ruled on any statements made by trump or rudy over the election being stolen because there have been no cases brought to court. They were all tossed before a single hearing had been held.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (JUOKG)

276 We all know it's the Old Gods.
Don't look at me.

Posted by: Mr Wednesday at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (DpkTQ)

277 "Ace is missing a potential income source. Or better yet, have Pixy make an app for smart phones, so the bingo card can be modified as needed."

Can we keep the current ones in play? Two days ago I found a white guy in a commercial.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (83lwH)

278 I think this is one of those stories where everyone finds their personal and political bogeyman guilty. The Marxists will say it's the fault of worker exploitation and lax State code enforcement. Some on our side will say it's poor engineering and new math. The wokesters will blame the patriarchy.
Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (vFEa1)


I think it collapsed because of physics.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (GbPPJ)

279 181 Woke engineering design?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

Unlikely. The building was built 40 years ago, before the current woke craze. This is more likely shoddy construction, corruption, and poor maintenance.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
_____________

As horrific as this tragedy was, if the diversity of our construction, inspection, and maintenance teams becomes a casualty, that's worse.

Posted by: Stacey Abrams, Topless at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (9vQJW)

280 To me, and I'm no structural engineer, it looks like it was framed so that the weight was on the outer walls, with a center support. So one outer wall failed, but the other and the center support did not.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 12:57 PM (UPoLF)

Generally when there is a 90 degree angle in a building, you design it with an expansion joint. In seismic areas, it's a seismic joint, but even the wind load will make a building bend somewhat and you don't want that cracking the exterior or the structure, either. I'm sure there is a joint between what fell and what didn't. In this case, it is probably a blessing, although you don't usually put in a joint thinking about collapse. Without the joint, the whole thing would have pancaked.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (SDdx5)

281 Saw that in a Kolchak episode.
Vampire graves undermining skyscrapers??


They used wooden stakes instead of rebar.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (+UWHh)

282
It's most likely a giant sinkhole.

Posted by: Rachel at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (3ahMa)

283 As Kolchak tries to stay one step ahead of the law, the beast continues its assault on the facility, destroying anything and everything in its quest for the eggs that have been stolen from its nest.
Posted by: andycanuck

Didn't STNG have a similar plot line?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (Rvt88)

284 in 50 years when it's declassified we will fond out this was a failed FBI raid on a Jan 6th insurrectionist.

Posted by: Inogame at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (53oGX)

285 Video shows much more of a collapse that the standing structure shows. Maybe it's my tired old eyes.

Posted by: Javems at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (8SSHh)

286 You have to go see what this news station is trying to pass off as a normal teen room.

https://twitter.com/paigehulsey/status/1408003404874592266

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (GbPPJ)

287 You have to admit the "optics" of having a building collapse in your state are pretty bad.

Posted by: SuperSmart TV Pundit at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (dYe5S)

288 > So, any bets the building has had a history of moaning and groaning in weird ways the last few months or years?


how about occasional hurricane-force winds blowing it back and forth like a tree

buildings do wobble

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (iTXRQ)

289 Oh my just saw the live version of the collapse, terrible, and really weird.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (r+sAi)

290 what we need to know is, was hunter biden there?

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (rlyUr)

291 Yeah, it happens. Usually it's caught before a building collapses though.

As some of you know, I used to work residential construction, and I had more than one foundation pour where the concrete was either way too soupy or started to harden like immediately, and everything had to be jack hammered out and we had to start all over again.

I've heard horror stories about big commercial buildings having the same problem (but on a much bigger scale, obviously.)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 12:55 PM (UPoLF)


Since this went up in 1981, I'm guessing it was right during the insane boom that was taking place in Florida. Entirely possible that so much was going up so fast, some inspections got even sloppier than usual, or a lot of looking the other direction.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (wAnMi)

292 We all know it's the Old Gods.

Don't deny it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (LvTSG)

The Necronomicon says Cthulu resides under Miami.

But trust us, our tunnel did not cause this.

Posted by: Cult of Cthulu at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (oHd/0)

293 >>>If your erection lasts longer than forty years, call your structural engineer...<
>Let's try to keep it civil here.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (HnNKD)

294 Have heard Hoover dam has such intense hydrostatic pressure that some maintenance tunnels "weep"
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I also recall hearing the concrete inside the damn won't be cured for a hundred years after pouring.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (7Fj9P)

295 We all know it's the Old Gods.
Don't look at me.
Posted by: Mr Wednesday at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM


*yawns*

Posted by: Cthulhu at June 24, 2021 01:04 PM (m+jkK)

296 BTW, "The Sentry"... An underground data-storage facility uncovers a problem when they excavate a tunnel for a new wing. Carl investigates the deaths of several employees of the facility who appeared to have been killed by a wild animal, and he discovers a rampaging reptile that has been disturbed by the digging of the tunnel. As Kolchak tries to stay one step ahead of the law, the beast continues its assault on the facility, destroying anything and everything in its quest for the eggs that have been stolen from its nest.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (UHVv4)

NO KILL I

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 24, 2021 01:04 PM (vuisn)

297 That's basically what happened to the Twin Towers on 9/11. The miracle was how long the buildings still remained erect after they had both been hit by jet planes.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (ZIoLS)

They were also framed with a lot of weigh bearing on the outside walls.

It was a pretty cool engineering feat at the time that we finally had steel strong enough to frame an entire building like that. No one really thought about what that would mean if a fucking 757 crashed in to the outside wall at 400 mph though.

But compare the construction of the twin towers to, say, the empire state building. Which might be the most over engineered building in the history of the world, and could probably eat a 757 or two for breakfast. Over engineering is not always the worst thing in the world.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:04 PM (UPoLF)

298 What say our science expert - Bill Nye?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:04 PM (Rvt88)

299 278 I think it collapsed because of physics.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (GbPPJ)

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That's racist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:04 PM (LvTSG)

300 Covid 19 was circulating in the public long before it was announced.

---

I'm pretty sure I had it between Thanksgiving and Christmas. I know I had something I've never had before.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2021





I am pretty sure I had it after thanksgiving 2019, doctor told me it was bronchitis. Never had bronchitis in my life. He gave me antibiotics that did nothing for me. Took a long while for me to shake it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:04 PM (JUOKG)

301 You have to go see what this news station is trying to pass off as a normal teen room.

https://twitter.com/paigehulsey/status/1408003404874592266

Posted by: alexthechick


Knife fights?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:05 PM (+UWHh)

302 I think it collapsed because of physics.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (GbPPJ)



Burn the witch!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:05 PM (yQpMk)

303 283 As Kolchak tries to stay one step ahead of the law, the beast continues its assault on the facility, destroying anything and everything in its quest for the eggs that have been stolen from its nest.
Posted by: andycanuck

Didn't STNG have a similar plot line?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (Rvt8

TOS (the original series)... the Horta

Posted by: Romeo13, showing his nerd cred at June 24, 2021 01:05 PM (oHd/0)

304 BREAKING NEWS

former Miami building official now hired to replace Hunter on Burisma BOD

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (8o8kf)

305 TOS (the original series)... the Horta

Damn it Jim, I'm a Doctor not a mason!

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (Zmnko)

306 Soon to be Breaking News: It was global warming.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (r+sAi)

307 I think it collapsed because of physics.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (GbPPJ)

So typical

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (vFEa1)

308 301 You have to go see what this news station is trying to pass off as a normal teen room.

https://twitter.com/paigehulsey/status/1408003404874592266

Posted by: alexthechick

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That looks like a set build out of a conference room.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (LvTSG)

309 If it's in Miami-Dade, what are the chances the upper floor was where they stashed Trump ballots?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (wAnMi)

310 But compare the construction of the twin towers to, say, the empire state building. Which might be the most over engineered building in the history of the world, and could probably eat a 757 or two for breakfast. Over engineering is not always the worst thing in the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:04 PM (UPoLF)



Yeah, The Empire State Building already ate a B-25 and is still standing.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (yQpMk)

311 >But compare the construction of the twin towers to, say, the empire state building. Which might be the most over engineered building in the history of the world, and could probably eat a 757 or two for breakfast.

actually a B-25 accidently flew into the ESB 7/28/45

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (iTXRQ)

312 Builtin 1981?

President Reagan's fault. He used milk in the cement instead of giving it to the brown chilluns in Liberty City.

That was how he rolled.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (IMeDs)

313 Ace: "The multitude of Blue-Check Twitter General-Purpose Experts..."

No! This is a job for Captain Hindsight!

Posted by: Other Reporter at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (aXxgO)

314 Pretty sure it was Cuban Directed Energy Weapon. Or the Aliens.

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (NQJ5P)

315 This shows the need for *checks notes* the federalization and reconstruction of all buildings in America. Green New Deal NOAW!

Posted by: President NPC at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (FPuSC)

316
WHY YOU
NO CALL
JIM?

Posted by: The Horta at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (yQpMk)

317 You have to go see what this news station is trying to pass off as a normal teen room.

https://twitter.com/paigehulsey/status/1408003404874592266

Posted by: alexthechick


"I get teens like you jobs that pay $1000 to $5000 dollars per day..."

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (jOcSX)

318 >>> If we somehow manage to put a colony on mars or the Moon, they had better be prepared to be abandoned because they will be.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (JUOKG)
Sounds like we need a plan to get essential political and corporate leadership into a space colony ASAP.

All aboard!

Posted by: Golgafrincham ark B at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (UnQlg)

319 Shaka... (fck it, you know the rest)

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (vuisn)

320 I'm guessing sinkhole or spongy bedrock subsidence caused high-rise collapse.

I listened to CBS Miami coverage for half an hour. Talking heads will blabber any fucking thing at 350 words per minute just to fill air, even though they don't know jack shit. Don't even stop to breathe.

Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (qpX6U)

321 Soon to be Breaking News: It was global warming.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (r+sAi)


Dude, you are so late. I already saw global warming being blamed on twatter and YT this morning. And, they're dead serious. It's pretty depressing when they look even stupider than the 'controlled demolition!!!' crowd.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (wAnMi)

322 307 I think it collapsed because of physics.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (GbPPJ)

So typical
Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (vFEa1)

And Physics was created by a bunch of White Dudes...

So clearly the building fell down due to racism!

Posted by: BLM to CRT via MSM at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM (oHd/0)

323 yeah, but how big is a b25 compared with the airliners, that were loaded with fuel and flying at a higher speed

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM (rlyUr)

324 Here is the actual collapse if it hasn't been posted already

https://bit.ly/2T2bzMI
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 12:43 PM (yQpMk)


Good gravy. Hopefully, everyone, or most everyone was out partying at the time. That's terrible.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)

325 Netflix is Netflixing again.

Most@Most
Straight aim. Gay heroes.

Sean Hayes, Wanda Sykes, Gary Cole, Patti Harrison, Matt Rogers, David Harbour and Laurie Metcalf are Q-FORCE. Coming to Netflix September 2.
-
There's nothing like having an elite espionage team whose greatest strength is their sexuality. In the world of high-stakes rescues and daring escapades, a focus on sexual fetishes is definitely the most compelling plot I could ever imagine.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM (d9FiS)

326 320 I'm guessing sinkhole or spongy bedrock subsidence caused high-rise collapse.

I listened to CBS Miami coverage for half an hour. Talking heads will blabber any fucking thing at 350 words per minute just to fill air, even though they don't know jack shit. Don't even stop to breathe.
Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension at June 24, 2021 01:07 PM (qpX6U)

========

It was the bad political climate from Tallahassee. When will Republicans decry this climate of hate?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

327 That looks like a set build out of a conference room.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (LvTSG)



It is. As someone pointed out, putting up the weed tapestry with painter's tape was such a considerate gesture by the Teen.

Everyone is pointing out it is far too clean to be a teenager's room.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM (GbPPJ)

328 Since this went up in 1981, I'm guessing it was right during the insane boom that was taking place in Florida. Entirely possible that so much was going up so fast, some inspections got even sloppier than usual, or a lot of looking the other direction.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (wAnMi)

Yeah. Plus a lot of things (like the concrete being sub par, or footings not being poured correctly, or subpart steel or whatever) are hard for an inspector to visually pick up on.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM (UPoLF)

329 the beast continues its assault on the facility, destroying anything and everything in its quest for the eggs that have been stolen from its nest.
Posted by: andycanuck

Didn't STNG have a similar plot line?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (Rvt8

TOS (the original series)... the Horta
Posted by: Romeo13, showing his nerd cred at June 24, 2021


***
Mother Horta wasn't destroying everything, just attacking miners and Star Fleet security guys. She was willing to call a truce once the humans realized what they'd been doing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM (/XOcP)

330 Yep, nobody expects a building in the USA just to go down like that. You would think people would have noticed cracks and the like previously rather than just a collapse. I wonder if a sink hole is forming, but we will hear in a few months what the official word is. Prayers all around.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (r+sAi)


I read an article earlier where one of the residents from the undamaged part of the building said that he had noticed cracks appearing around the pool area and notified the building management.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 24, 2021 01:09 PM (Ez6QX)

331 Because of this tragedy VP Harris will not be able to go to the border.... Which I expect will happen

Posted by: It's me donna at June 24, 2021 01:09 PM (Zmnko)

332
If mask mandates were in place this never would have happened.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 01:09 PM (mht8P)

333 Second look at Hungary or Poland?

Posted by: I mean at June 24, 2021 01:09 PM (vKMC1)

334 Oh gosh how long before the demon vampires start screaming infrastructure. I imagine they already have. Before the bodies are even cold.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 01:09 PM (vFEa1)

335 299 278 I think it collapsed because of physics.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (GbPPJ)


as does everything, eventually

chaos is nature

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:09 PM (8o8kf)

336 TNG SUCK
TOS BEST

Posted by: the horta at June 24, 2021 01:09 PM (UHVv4)

337 I lived in a 40-story condo building with balconies on Chicago's lakefront. The rear in the balconies rusted over the years and required an $8 million project to correct jackhammer away the bad stuff and rebuild the balconies. That building was only 30 years old at the time.

Oh, the condo board members before me knew if the problems, minimized them , and moved out to avoid the repair costs. Which went up, with the delay. Bastards.

Posted by: JM in Florida at June 24, 2021 01:09 PM (HCeRP)

338 262 That's
like trying to explain to some idiot when a 500 year flood event
happens and they say "what happened, the last 500 year flood here was
only 120 years ago".


Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:00 PM (JUOKG)
True. Floods are localized events that can easily happen back-to-back. With earthquakes, you have stress energy stored over hundreds or thousands of years that gets partially or fully realeased in a large event, so other than stress that gets put on parts of the fault that didn't move or other nearby faults, that part of the fault is spent until the stress builds up again. 1811-1812, 3 large quakes, but undoubtely not all on the same part of the (rather complex) New Madrid system.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 01:09 PM (ynpvh)

339 327 That looks like a set build out of a conference room.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (LvTSG)

It is. As someone pointed out, putting up the weed tapestry with painter's tape was such a considerate gesture by the Teen.
Everyone is pointing out it is far too clean to be a teenager's room.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM (GbPPJ)

==========

AtC said I was right. What have you accomplished today?

*buffs nails haughtily*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

340 I categorically deny I was out walking around that block when the building collapsed.

Posted by: Stacy Abrams at June 24, 2021 01:10 PM (xxG/v)

341 I think it collapsed because of physics.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria

We need common sense physics control.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 24, 2021 01:10 PM (d9FiS)

342 Rear = rebar

Posted by: JM in Florida at June 24, 2021 01:10 PM (HCeRP)

343 Soon to be Breaking News: It was global warming.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

Add it to the Bingo card. Guaranteed.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (OssQ4)

344 Someone should ask Rosie O'Donnell for her expert opinion.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (QU5/8)

345
There was renovation work being done of the roof, but it's doubtful that had anything to do with the collapse.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (Mzdiz)

346 This is the fault of conservatism and conservatives.

Posted by: JROD at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (0jZnq)

347 "I think it collapsed because of physics."

Either that or metaphysics. Covers all the bases.

Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (qpX6U)

348 Years and years ago, I took the toddler Girl928 to see the implosion of an old hotel in downtown Columbia SC. The police let us get to barely two blocks away. It was pretty cool, until the dust cloud rolled down the street and engulfed us and the crowd watching.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (yQpMk)

349 336 TNG SUCK
TOS BEST

===
How DARE you!

*Curls up in an old man ball and cries in a corner*

Posted by: Pukehard at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (FPuSC)

350 Without seeing the structural design, those are my first impressions.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 24, 2021 12:53 PM (SDdx5)

some days i'm reminded of the abso-fucking-lutely amazing wealth of knowledge that is housed here at the HQ. and it's a bit intimidating. but i almost always learn something.


then other days, it's all boob jokes and trying to get photographic evidence of AtC and Jordan naked...

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (8D42x)

351 Some people did something.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (7zXB9)

352 And Physics was created by a bunch of White Dudes...

So clearly the building fell down due to racism!
Posted by: BLM to CRT via MSM at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM


Them homos stole it from us!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (m+jkK)

353 You have to go see what this news station is trying to pass off as a normal teen room.

https://twitter.com/paigehulsey/status/1408003404874592266

Posted by: alexthechick



Now I want a Music/Band shirt.....

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (Zz0t1)

354

RON DEATHSANTIS KILLED THESE PEOPLE.

Posted by: Senator Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (NuVOb)

355 Who was Florida Governor, and who was mayor of Miami when the building was permitted and built? Might they be Democrats? Maybe just a little old-fashioned chiseling on the sand/cement ratio in the concrete? Like happens all the time in China?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2021 01:12 PM (dUv0A)

356
then other days, it's all boob jokes and trying to get photographic evidence of AtC and Jordan naked...


Posted by: SturmToddler at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (8D42x)



That's hot.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:12 PM (Zz0t1)

357 Yeah, The Empire State Building already ate a B-25 and is still standing.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (yQpMk)

Yeah, but B-25's aren't that big, and it was flying slowly.

But, your point stands. IIRC, they had to do some masonry work, but other than that, the building was fine.

(I nerded out one day reading about how they framed the ESB, it's absolutely nuts. Steel frame all around, including internally built structure, cement, bricks, and then the stone facade. But I guess it makes sense to realllly overengineer something if it's one of the first massive sky scrapers in existence.)

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:12 PM (UPoLF)

358 some days i'm reminded of the abso-fucking-lutely amazing wealth of
knowledge that is housed here at the HQ. and it's a bit intimidating.
but i almost always learn something.
then other days, it's all boob jokes and trying to get photographic evidence of AtC and Jordan naked...

Embrace the power of "and."

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 24, 2021 01:12 PM (7zXB9)

359 Just terrible. I assume it's too early to reasonably speculate, but isn't southern Florida known for sinkholes?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:12 PM (Jsjd7)

360 With the "normal" teen room that Alex posted:

The "Mile 420" sign on the left is kind of a giveaway that the occupant is not playing Fishdom in his free time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:12 PM (/XOcP)

361 until the dust cloud rolled down the street and engulfed us and the crowd watching.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (yQpMk)

At least you weren't in close for a dynamite demolition of a beached whale.

Posted by: Fool Otto at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (DB16e)

362 >>> When New Madrid goes off again, huge swathes of towns are just going
to be flattened. I had to explain to someone who moved to Nashville
from LA just why it was that her new high rise apartment complex had to
meet the same earthquake codes as LA. She'd never heard of New Madrid.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 12:44 PM (GbPPJ)


It is potentially the most dangerous fault in North America if not the world. The last time it hit it rerouted the Mississippi which ran backward for a while. Waterfalls in the Mississippi were reported. In some places, the surface wave vibrations liquified soil causing trees and stuff to sink. Some surface layers inverted bringing tar and sand up to the surface over large areas. Bodies of water heated up. Lightening shot up into the sky. It was reported that it caused the liberty bell in PA to swing but that seems unlikely. But it was very big and although it was in a mostly uninhabited area, many were simply swallowed up in hundreds of crevices never to be heard from again.

Not so much uninhabited anymore.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (FZS4E)

363 don't buy a condo. it's sub-optimal for many reasons.

Posted by: x at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (oA+QO)

364 Yeah. Plus a lot of things (like the concrete being
sub par, or footings not being poured correctly, or subpart steel or
whatever) are hard for an inspector to visually pick up on.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM

They are supposed to be taking samples when they pour and send them off for testing. They do around here for anything other than residential construction.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (JUOKG)

365 Who is to blame? I don't know, but 40 years ago of could have been built with counterfeit bolts from China.

https://tinyurl.com/wtrh6xyv

Buyer Beware: Counterfeit, Substandard, Inferior
Be aware of the quality and origin of your metal construction materials

"Counterfeits can kill. In 1987, counterfeit bolts appear to have been tied directly to the death of a worker at the Saturn automobile factory under construction in Spring Hill, Tenn. The worker was tightening a bolt when it cracked and caused him to fall to his death. Total structural collapse could be an outcome too. In February 2017, a multistory building in Kanpur, India, collapsed and killed three people. According to officials, the building collapsed under its own weight and the cause was indicated to be substandard construction materials."

Posted by: MachiasPrivateer at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (EMi53)

366 It is. And there are at least two bodies in those pours. OSHA didn't exist then.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (SDdx5)


That's correct. Two.

Posted by: Mafiosos at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (jOcSX)

367 Everyone is pointing out it is far too clean to be a teenager's room.
That was my reaction. Maybe it was teenage Felix Unger?

Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (v16oJ)

368
All the Flexseal got used up on the Three Rivers Gorges Dam.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (mht8P)

369 Conservatives in Florida, like DeSantis couldn't conserve that building. What has conservatism conserved?

Posted by: JROD at June 24, 2021 01:14 PM (0jZnq)

370 294 Have heard Hoover dam has such intense hydrostatic pressure that some maintenance tunnels "weep"

=========================

I also recall hearing the concrete inside the damn won't be cured for a hundred years after pouring.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (7Fj9P)

So in a decade+ will be cured.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 24, 2021 01:14 PM (ynpvh)

371 You have to go see what this news station is trying to pass off as a normal teen room. ...
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (GbPPJ)
++++
From a *very* rich family, maybe. That room looks like it's probably bigger than mine, and my house's master bedroom is pretty stupidly big. If that's the size of the kids' rooms, that is a mighty big - and expensive - house...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:14 PM (Jsjd7)

372 https://twitter.com/paigehulsey/status/1408003404874592266



not an average teens room, however, frm the bra she has a big set of guns.

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 01:14 PM (rlyUr)

373 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:12 PM (UPoLF)

Craziest thing about the ESB to me? it only took 1 year and 45 days to build.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 24, 2021 01:15 PM (oHd/0)

374 This is terrible. To be sleeping in your bed and then, crushed to death instantly.

I'm hoping maybe they were rent out condos and being the middle of the week they were more empty than full on a weekend.

Posted by: portlandon at June 24, 2021 01:15 PM (+oR7L)

375 299 278 I think it collapsed because of physics.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:02 PM (GbPPJ)


she grinded me with science

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:15 PM (8o8kf)

376 It was the Joooooooooooos!

Posted by: Rep. Bruthalova, MN at June 24, 2021 01:15 PM (stW/m)

377 The video at Hotair shows two bright flashes near the roof where the standing section and the collapsed sections joined. To my untrained eye, it looks like flashes from electrical equipment shorting. Maybe as the collapse began?

Posted by: JB1000 at June 24, 2021 01:15 PM (G3a/U)

378 >Will Kamala visit the survivors and comfort them?
____________

Only if they're illegal aliens.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 24, 2021 01:15 PM (k4dH2)

379 You have to go see what this news station is trying to pass off as a normal teen room. ...
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (GbPPJ)
++++
From a *very* rich family, maybe. That room looks like it's probably bigger than mine, and my house's master bedroom is pretty stupidly big. If that's the size of the kids' rooms, that is a mighty big - and expensive - house...
Posted by: J


it is a set so

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 01:15 PM (rlyUr)

380 Of course they'll blame DeSantis. Just like they blamed Bush for the bridge collapse in Minneapolis.

I can't wait to finally get it on with these assholes. I don't want a divorce. I want my pound of flesh.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at June 24, 2021 01:16 PM (jWe5r)

381 Take note, New Yorkers... if you move to Florida stuff like this will happen. It's probably a lot safer to stay up north.

Posted by: weew at June 24, 2021 01:16 PM (EaEMG)

382 It is potentially the most dangerous fault in North America if not the world. The last time it hit it rerouted the Mississippi which ran backward for a while. Waterfalls in the Mississippi were reported. In some places, the surface wave vibrations liquified soil causing trees and stuff to sink. Some surface layers inverted bringing tar and sand up to the surface over large areas. Bodies of water heated up. Lightening shot up into the sky. It was reported that it caused the liberty bell in PA to swing but that seems unlikely. But it was very big and although it was in a mostly uninhabited area, many were simply swallowed up in hundreds of crevices never to be heard from again.

Not so much uninhabited anymore.
Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (FZS4E)


I've been to the lake that got created when it last went off. It's very spooky.

I was going to college in TN when there was some concern about activity and schools were closed for a few days. The governor at the time said yeah, I'm probably overreacting and it's probably nothing but I am not taking that chance.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:16 PM (GbPPJ)

383 A trillion dollar infrastructure package and a building collapse in a strong red state.
Coincidence?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2021 01:16 PM (axyOa)

384 Since this went up in 1981, I'm guessing it was right during the insane boom that was taking place in Florida. Entirely possible that so much was going up so fast, some inspections got even sloppier than usual, or a lot of looking the other direction.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 24, 2021 01:03 PM (wAnMi)


I don't remember the exact date, but when the Apollo program wound down a lot of engineers were out of work and some, maybe more than some, tried their hand at structural engineering. There was a large building failure in Florida caused by punching shear in concrete slabs and as I recall that was the start of things really tightening up code wise and license wise in Florida. 1981 would be about right for that timing, however it would be very unusual for a building not showing any signs of distress to suddenly collapse by itself. Going to need to wait a few months until we know.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 24, 2021 01:16 PM (NxOLn)

385 it is a set so
Posted by: confederatefifth at June 24, 2021 01:15 PM (rlyUr)
++++
Yeah, I know. But they claim to be doing it up as "normal"

That ain't "normal"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:16 PM (Jsjd7)

386 Damn, never should have let those Palestinian brothers move in.

Posted by: Building Manager talking to St. Peter at June 24, 2021 01:17 PM (oHd/0)

387 >>> That looks like a set build out of a conference room.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:06 PM (LvTSG)


The spotlight is for his INDOOR HYDROPONIC POT FARM!

Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2021 01:17 PM (FZS4E)

388 My guess: Over the 40 year period they neglected to maintain storm water runoff measures* that led to key parts of the structure rusting over a very long time.

*gutters, downspouts, pumps, etc...

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 24, 2021 01:17 PM (h1jJh)

389
Fracking, man.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 01:17 PM (mht8P)

390 Judging from the pictures of the design and from the video of it falling, the piers/columns holding it up likely collapsed and then the whole building came down with it.
The strength of columns were likely degraded due to rusted rebar. I would guess the concrete porosity was far too high and wasn't treated properly through the years to prevent moisture penetration of the concrete.

That would be my intial assumption as an FA Engineer based on observation and what is known now.

Posted by: Spiff The Spaceman at June 24, 2021 01:17 PM (lfSFb)

391 It is. As someone pointed out, putting up the weed tapestry with painter's tape was such a considerate gesture by the Teen.

Everyone is pointing out it is far too clean to be a teenager's room.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:08 PM (GbPPJ)


Also looks like an air mattress rather than a bed.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 24, 2021 01:17 PM (Ez6QX)

392 I am a building structure expert. Saltwater cannot melt steel.

Posted by: Rosie O'Donnell at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (+oR7L)

393 They are supposed to be taking samples when they pour and send them off for testing. They do around here for anything other than residential construction.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (JUOKG)

Oh, could be, I suppose. As I said, I've only worked residential construction. Where, trust me, no one is doing any kind of sampling of anything. Except fire blocks, we always needed MOAR FIREBLOCKS.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (UPoLF)

394 " Yeah, The Empire State Building already ate a B-25 and is still standing."

And the building was constructed on schedule and within budget. The steel was still hot from the mill when it was erected, and engineered dimensions took that thermal contraction into account. At least that's the folklore I've heard.

Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (qpX6U)

395 I read an article earlier where one of the residents from the undamaged part of the building said that he had noticed cracks appearing around the pool area and notified the building management.
---
That's the sort of thing that would tend to validate the sinkhole idea, right?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (sWM8x)

396 The U.S. Government is probably packing these complexes with so many illegals that they can't withstand the load from 10,000 illegal children laborers.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (HnNKD)

397 Bodies in Hoover dam? Urban myth? Each pour was shallow enough to reveal a fallen construction worker.

Posted by: Getting the banned back together at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (2hwdC)

398 Has General Milley been able to link this collapse to white rage yet?

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (BRpqW)

399 Going to need to wait a few months until we know.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont

Obviously, you are not a 'journalist'. This is no time for careful, intelligent investigation!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (Rvt88)

400 Also, all clever teenagers know that if you want to hide something, you don't use your own room.

You use your parents' bathroom if they have one, or their bedroom otherwise. Garage is a decent alternative if available. The best place to hide something is right under their noses. Searching *your* room turns up bupkiss, and they aren't going to search their *own* room for your contraband. They might stumble across it (that's always a risk), but they won't find it by hunting for it...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (Jsjd7)

401 I'm going to put on my amateur engineer's hat and declare that this was a foundation issue. Florida is the land of the sinkholes. I'll bet the soil around the foundation on that side has eroded away.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 24, 2021 01:19 PM (/bNwY)

402 until the dust cloud rolled down the street and engulfed us and the crowd watching.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:11 PM (yQpMk)

At least you weren't in close for a dynamite demolition of a beached whale.
Posted by: Fool Otto


Meat & blubber everywhere.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:19 PM (+UWHh)

403 Well, if you don't know why I'm upset, I'm certainly not going to tell you.

Posted by: hoover dam maintenance tunnel at June 24, 2021 01:19 PM (UHVv4)

404 Okay, which one of you is John Rahm?

https://tinyurl.com/2rzdvkpb

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:19 PM (GbPPJ)

405 395 That's the sort of thing that would tend to validate the sinkhole idea, right?
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (sWM8x)

=========

That's definitely a Ialdagorth sign.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM (LvTSG)

406 "57 I feel like we're in that period of the Empire where all the incompetence we've fostered over the decades starts to cause things to just fall apart. I would expect to see this, and bridges collapsing (*kaff*) and so on, in increasing numbers.
Posted by: moviegique at June 24, 2021 12:37 PM (dhFCT)"

It's not a feeling, we're well into that phase. And it's not just physical stuff that was built improperly or built and then never maintained due to urban politics - it's also a lot of our systems and software.

Farming a bunch of shit out to India is not doing us any favors. There is a lot of stuff run by code that you depend on every day that is slowly going to shit; just ask the few hundred people Boeing killed with their $9/hr outsourcers. If you have the third world run things for you, they're going to be third world quality.

People give Ayn Rand a bunch of shit for various things but she had a solid grasp of the transition from a functioning culture and civilization to... whatever the fuck we're headed towards now.

Posted by: somedood at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM (CtltA)

407 Well, obesity in America is an increasing problem. We should expect more building collapses like this in the future.

Posted by: SuperSmart TV Pundit at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM (dYe5S)

408 Also, all clever teenagers know that if you want to hide something, you don't use your own room.

You use your parents' bathroom if they have one, or their bedroom otherwise. Garage is a decent alternative if available. The best place to hide something is right under their noses. Searching *your* room turns up bupkiss, and they aren't going to search their *own* room for your contraband. They might stumble across it (that's always a risk), but they won't find it by hunting for it...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (Jsjd7)


Heh. If my dad would've found weed in his room, he would've just assumed it was his and smoked it.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM (Ez6QX)

409 With the "normal" teen room that Alex posted:

The "Mile 420" sign on the left is kind of a giveaway that the occupant is not playing Fishdom in his free time.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:12 PM


The idiots probably thought that was so cryptic that their crack investigative reporting team would have to point it out to the hopelessly clueless parents.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM (m+jkK)

410 Man stabs woman.
Cops show up.
People point out the guy is still nearby.
Two cops approach.
Man has a knife.
They talk to him.
He rushes an officer.
They try to taze him, it doesn't work SHOCKING!
They shoot him.

https://youtu.be/z2ms0tKHZcI

Posted by: bonhomme at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM (YYlyE)

411 BREAKING: A safe house used by the US Marshall Svc for witness protection collapsed last night in Miami. It's unknown if any of the victims had information relating to Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: RT at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM (stW/m)

412 Searching *your* room turns up bupkiss, and they aren't going to search their *own* room for your contraband. They might stumble across it (that's always a risk), but they won't find it by hunting for it...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (Jsjd7)



Mom finds stash in dad's shoe rack.

Mom hires lawyer.

Divorce is imminent.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM (Zz0t1)

413 You use your parents' bathroom if they have one, or their bedroom otherwise. Garage is a decent alternative if available. The best place to hide something is right under their noses. Searching *your* room turns up bupkiss, and they aren't going to search their *own* room for your contraband. They might stumble across it (that's always a risk), but they won't find it by hunting for it...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (Jsjd7)

I always used my car. Real smart spots that no one would look, like under the rear seat. Didn't occur to me that if I got pulled over, I would be in much more trouble then if my parents happened to be snooping in my room. Oh well.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:21 PM (UPoLF)

414 They try to taze him, it doesn't work SHOCKING!

Posted by: bonhomme at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM


ISWYDT.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:21 PM (m+jkK)

415 Also, all clever teenagers know that if you want to hide something, you don't use your own room.

You use your parents' bathroom if they have one, or their bedroom otherwise. Garage is a decent alternative if available. The best place to hide something is right under their noses. Searching *your* room turns up bupkiss, and they aren't going to search their *own* room for your contraband. They might stumble across it (that's always a risk), but they won't find it by hunting for it...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021


***
I didn't have a room of my own until I left home, so no chance to try this.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:21 PM (/XOcP)

416 JROD: " This is the fault of conservatism and conservatives."

3.3 3.0 3.4 3.1 2.8

But TBF I think the Russian judge is biased.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 24, 2021 01:21 PM (83lwH)

417 I didn't have a room of my own until I left home, so no chance to try this.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:21 PM (/XOcP)
++++
Ah. In that case, you pin it on your sibling and apologize to him *much* later in life...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:22 PM (Jsjd7)

418 Also, all clever teenagers know that if you want to hide something, you don't use your own room.
There are other options.

Posted by: Zombie George Floyd at June 24, 2021 01:23 PM (v16oJ)

419 The idiots probably thought that was so cryptic that their crack investigative reporting team would have to point it out to the hopelessly clueless parents.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM (m+jkK)

They do realize that most parents of teenaged kids are young gen x or millennials, right?

And we are well aware of what "420" means.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:23 PM (UPoLF)

420 404 Okay, which one of you is John Rahm?

https://tinyurl.com/2rzdvkpb

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:19 PM (GbPPJ)

Don't let SMH see you spelling "Jon" with an "H"

she will go full Karen

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:23 PM (8o8kf)

421 BREAKING: A safe house used by the US Marshall Svc for witness protection collapsed last night in Miami. It's unknown if any of the victims had information relating to Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: RT at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM (stW/m)



The one next door was the DIA safe house.

It was a twofor.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:23 PM (yQpMk)

422 "where all the incompetence we've fostered over the decades starts to cause things to just fall apart. "

The fun part is the realization that no one knows how to build it anymore.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 24, 2021 01:23 PM (83lwH)

423 I'm not joking when I say that many of these people will be counted as COVIDs deaths.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:23 PM (em09h)

424 >>> I don't remember the exact date, but when the Apollo program wound down a lot of engineers were out of work and some, maybe more than some, tried their hand at structural engineering. There was a large building failure in Florida caused by punching shear in concrete slabs and as I recall that was the start of things really tightening up code wise and license wise in Florida. 1981 would be about right for that timing, however it would be very unusual for a building not showing any signs of distress to suddenly collapse by itself. Going to need to wait a few months until we know.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 24, 2021 01:16 PM (NxOLn)

Aerospace engineers make the things that go and blow up the things that structural engineers make. This is the formula, don't mess with it.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2021 01:24 PM (FZS4E)

425 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:18 PM (Jsjd7

Suggesting a child hide things in their parents' room is exactly the same logic that was used by Colonial Europeans to take land from indigenous peoples without compensation. And in some cases through violence. In doing so you perpetuate power through terror, a philosophy utilized by the Nazis and in more modern times, Donald Trump.

Posted by: Your Kid's American History Professor at June 24, 2021 01:24 PM (vFEa1)

426 So I glanced at Wiki's sinkhole article, and it seems a lot of them are located in Gulf states- Texas, Louisiana Alabama and Florida

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 24, 2021 01:24 PM (iTXRQ)

427 Man stabs woman.
[...]
They shoot him.

I'm afraid you'll have to be more specific than that.

Posted by: andycanuck at June 24, 2021 01:24 PM (UHVv4)

428 They try to taze him, it doesn't work SHOCKING!
They shoot him.

https://youtu.be/z2ms0tKHZcI
Posted by: bonhomme

I love happy endings!

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:25 PM (Rvt88)

429 They are supposed to be taking samples when they pour and send them off for testing. They do around here for anything other than residential construction.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (JUOKG)


As luck would have it as Ace was posting this I had just received the results of tests of concrete on a large municipal project. Three weeks ago we told the contractor the 7 day breaks were trending low but he kept brushing us off. Not a good day for him to get the final 28 day results as they came in at only 83% of where they should have.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 24, 2021 01:25 PM (NxOLn)

430 427 Man stabs woman.
[...]
They shoot him.
I'm afraid you'll have to be more specific than that.
Posted by: andycanuck at June 24, 2021 01:24 PM (UHVv4)



A lot of assumptive gendering going on here.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:25 PM (yQpMk)

431 Don't let SMH see you spelling "Jon" with an "H"

she will go full Karen
Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:23 PM (8o8kf)



Grrr, I'll go full Karen on me about it. I freaking even thought do not spell it John.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:25 PM (GbPPJ)

432 And we are well aware of what "420" means.
?

Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 01:25 PM (v16oJ)

433 What they cannot blame on DeSantis or his policies directly, they will attribute to divine retribution. Pretty much the only time leftists invoke religion.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at June 24, 2021 01:26 PM (9Y5rE)

434 Man stabs woman

**

It's neat how the initial butterfly wing flapping is always lost after the racist cops racist at people.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:26 PM (em09h)

435 Read all about the reasons for this collapse in my new book - Hostage-Terrorist Terrorist-Hostage: A Study in Duality.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 01:26 PM (vFEa1)

436 And we are well aware of what "420" means.
?
Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 01:25 PM (v16oJ)


Millimeters in length...

Posted by: Mafiosos at June 24, 2021 01:27 PM (jOcSX)

437 Also I'm pretty sure a social worker was suppose to respond to that call since there is clearly a lot of mental illness involved.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:27 PM (em09h)

438 . Not a good day for him to get the final 28 day results as they came in at only 83% of where they should have.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 24, 2021 01:25 PM (NxOLn)

...

Let's hear it for 56 day breaks.

Or a bunch of smoke and mirrors arguing over rebound hammer tests.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:27 PM (yL25O)

439 From the Google Earth photo, it appears about half of the build collapsed.It extended further toward the water than the other side.

Posted by: SMOD at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (RHGPo)

440 They do realize that most parents of teenaged kids are young gen x or millennials, right?

And we are well aware of what "420" means.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:23 PM


My point exactly. These are reporters. Therefore, idiots.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (m+jkK)

441 That's the sort of thing that would tend to validate the sinkhole idea, right?
---------------
Yes. Or burrowing animals like giant earthworms.

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (NQJ5P)

442 Say it turns out to be a sinkhole. What about all the other big Florida buildings sitting on sponge? They'll all have to have emergency foundation inspections now, with the inevitable payoffs to the inspectors to prevent the condemnation of billions of dollars of real estate. I'd expect their high-rise real-estate values to plummet as people rush to get out of the death-traps.

Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (qpX6U)

443 How else would you spell "John"?

Say? Is that my car??

Posted by: John Voight at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (UHVv4)

444 Yes. Or burrowing animals like giant earthworms.
Posted by: Puddin Head at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (NQJ5P)



The Graboids are not a myth.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (yQpMk)

445 There was a large building failure in Florida caused by punching shear in concrete slabs and as I recall that was the start of things really tightening up code wise and license wise in Florida. 1981 would be about right for that timing, however it would be very unusual for a building not showing any signs of distress to suddenly collapse by itself. Going to need to wait a few months until we know.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 24, 2021 01:16 PM (NxOLn)

...

That guy was an electrical engineer iirc.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (yL25O)

446 Yes. Or burrowing animals like giant earthworms.
Posted by: Puddin Head at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (NQJ5P)


Graboids!

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:29 PM (GbPPJ)

447 Civil Engineer here, regarding Hoover Dam.

For the record, water goes thru concrete. Extremely slowly, but it still does. Like

It also goes through cracks or construction joints. Joints like when they put the next layer on top of the previous layer after it has dried for 28+ days.

Did they put in something to catch the water, who knows. As-builts plans probably weren't really known in the 30's.

Posted by: Scott_T at June 24, 2021 01:29 PM (2waQ7)

448 Jinx, Your Grace.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:29 PM (yQpMk)

449 444 The Graboids are not a myth.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM

446 Graboids!
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:29 PM

Hordemind!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (m+jkK)

450 Speaking of, beachfront property prices are dropping because of the imminent and absolutely certain Global Warmening that is coming in 8 years, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (em09h)

451 No, no, you were first.

*shoves your Coke through the USB port*

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (GbPPJ)

452 Yeah, sinkhole, bomb, truck driving into support column, ...

I don't care what the cause was -- that building should not have fallen like that. It was cheaply built house of cards and there is a serious problem with the codes and practices if that can happen.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (9Wrbj)

453 It's obviously super odd for something that has been up for 30 years to collapse, and this building looks at least that old.

I'm going to guess with proximity to the ocean that this was a precast concrete building, the connections between precast elements were exposed to corrosion, and eventually something critical failed.

There's my semi-informed SWAG.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (yL25O)

454 Grrr, I'll go full Karen on me about it. I freaking even thought do not spell it John.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:25 PM (GbPPJ)

a full weekend LOL

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (8o8kf)

455 450 Speaking of, beachfront property prices are dropping because of the imminent and absolutely certain Global Warmening that is coming in 8 years, right?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (em09h)

========

Question from 1998, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (LvTSG)

456 I was the New Madrid Fault open for the North American Continent in 1812.

Posted by: Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (lSZIs)

457 @416 Hoyts Turkish Provocateur-You're the dumbshit that can't differentiate between a common GOPe hack and an actual conservative. Your blanket statement the other day about conservatives falls on its stupid face because conservatives within the Republican Party haven't controlled anything within the party. So you just sound like a f'ing idiot with an axe to grind when you paint with a broad brush.

Posted by: JROD at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (0jZnq)

458 Yes. Or burrowing animals like giant earthworms.
---
The spice must flow.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 24, 2021 01:31 PM (sWM8x)

459 *shoves your Coke through the USB port*

Thanks!

*goes for rum*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:31 PM (yQpMk)

460 The Graboids are not a myth.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (yQpMk)

Yes, but everything after Tremors 2 (or Tremors 3, if you're into it) *is* a myth.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 24, 2021 01:31 PM (a+Mub)

461 Question from 1998, right?

**

Shut up racist.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:31 PM (em09h)

462 Forget the drugs, look at the lighting. Your daughter is clearly camming.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 24, 2021 01:31 PM (uhPTO)

463 was -> saw

*grumbles dang-nabbit

Posted by: Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky at June 24, 2021 01:32 PM (lSZIs)

464 442 Say it turns out to be a sinkhole. What about all the other big Florida buildings sitting on sponge? They'll all have to have emergency foundation inspections now, with the inevitable payoffs to the inspectors to prevent the condemnation of billions of dollars of real estate. I'd expect their high-rise real-estate values to plummet as people rush to get out of the death-traps.
Posted by: gp's Electro-Tonic Tension at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (qpX6U)

...

I don't think there are sinkholes 20 yards from the coast, but maybe I'm wrong.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:32 PM (yL25O)

465 Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM

Made it out to your neck of the woods Saturday to take in the Rockwell Museum. I've forgotten how nice that part of the state is.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:32 PM (m+jkK)

466 Any Dave Barry column from the past 30 years could have predicted this disaster

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 24, 2021 01:32 PM (NVmJr)

467 PSA

Smirnoff Cherry is very good with Coca-Cola. 1:2 and 1:1 both work well.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:32 PM (em09h)

468 Forget the drugs, look at the lighting. Your daughter is clearly camming.

That's how she buys the drugs, man.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 24, 2021 01:33 PM (QU5/8)

469 Let's hear it for 56 day breaks.

Or a bunch of smoke and mirrors arguing over rebound hammer tests.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:27 PM (yL25O)


I think we may be going the core and test or rebound hammer route. Testing agency screwed up and broke two of each series at 7 days so we don't have one in reserve for 56. Also found out the other day they left the cylinders out in the hot Texas sun for more than a few hours because they failed to build the curing box like they were supposed to. I don't actually need the material strength because we have it in section properties, and everybody knows it, so it is going to be a huge mess with a lot of pressure to accept them as is.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 24, 2021 01:33 PM (NxOLn)

470 If I lived in that building, the first thing I would have done is glare at my 16 year old son and say "WHAT DID YOU DO NOW?"

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 24, 2021 01:33 PM (h1jJh)

471 I don't think there are sinkholes 20 yards from the coast, but maybe I'm wrong.
----------------------
Maybe is was a cavern containing pirate treasure?

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 24, 2021 01:33 PM (NQJ5P)

472 No, no, you were first.

*shoves your Coke through the USB port*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (GbPPJ)
++++
Whoa! You know Hunter Biden?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:33 PM (Jsjd7)

473 Read all about the reasons for this collapse in my new book - Hostage-Terrorist Terrorist-Hostage: A Study in Duality.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 01:26 PM

Published in Helsinki, Sweden.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at June 24, 2021 01:33 PM (kgUmS)

474 I just got 200 rounds in the mail.
Pew. Pew.

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 24, 2021 01:33 PM (iTXRQ)

475 Any Dave Barry column from the past 30 years could have predicted this disaster
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 24, 2021 01:32 PM


The colonoscopy one certainly involved some disaster.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:34 PM (m+jkK)

476 Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 24, 2021 12:59 PM (SDdx5)

My uncle almost ended up as part of the Eisenhower Tunnel. He missed the signal that a pour was happening. Left some bent rebar in getting out of the way.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at June 24, 2021 01:34 PM (1lKRm)

477 Forget the drugs, look at the lighting. Your daughter is clearly camming.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 24, 2021 01:31 PM (uhPTO)


Heh.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 24, 2021 01:34 PM (Ez6QX)

478 If I lived in that building, the first thing I would have done is glare at my 16 year old son and say "WHAT DID YOU DO NOW?"
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at June 24, 2021 01:33 PM (h1jJh)



I think the first thing I would have done is scream in terror.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:34 PM (yQpMk)

479 465 Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM

Made it out to your neck of the woods Saturday to take in the Rockwell Museum. I've forgotten how nice that part of the state is.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:32 PM (m+jkK)

all of western MA is purty nice

Stockbridge is just north of me

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:34 PM (8o8kf)

480 456 I was the New Madrid Fault open for the North American Continent in 1812.
Posted by: Peter Ilyich Tchaikovsky at June 24, 2021 01:30 PM (lSZIs)

And I saw the San Andreas Rock the HOUSE in Los Angeles in 1994!

Posted by: Building Manager talking to St. Peter at June 24, 2021 01:34 PM (oHd/0)

481 >>> That guy was an electrical engineer iirc.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (yL25O)


Current flow in circuits is pretty much mathematically the inverse of shear flow in beams, plates, webs, and stiffeners. Thus ends my knowledge of EE.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2021 01:34 PM (FZS4E)

482 I just got 200 rounds in the mail.
Pew. Pew.
Posted by: DB- just DB at June 24, 2021 01:33 PM


All you people who live in free states where you can get ammo shipped to you.

*sulks*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:35 PM (m+jkK)

483 Has this been linked to Covid yet and Florida's response to it? Don't laugh. The connection will be made.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 24, 2021 01:35 PM (puu6v)

484 Also found out the other day they left the cylinders out in the hot Texas sun for more than a few hours because they failed to build the curing box like they were supposed to. I don't actually need the material strength because we have it in section properties, and everybody knows it, so it is going to be a huge mess with a lot of pressure to accept them as is.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 24, 2021 01:33 PM (NxOLn)

...

Welcome to my world.

It wasn't *that* hot yet though 28 days ago.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:35 PM (yL25O)

485
all of western MA is purty nice

__________

The only problem is that it's in MA.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 01:35 PM (mht8P)

486 Forget the drugs, look at the lighting. Your daughter is clearly camming.
I assume "camming" means broadcasting porn over the internet. I've heard that happens.

Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 01:35 PM (v16oJ)

487 I think any concrete building in japan, you could pick up and roll across the street like a boulder and the damn thing would stay intact.

Yeah, they have earthquakes here, but the amount of concrete and steel in each building is staggering. like, 5x the material.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 24, 2021 01:36 PM (9Wrbj)

488 A John with no "h" is a toilet.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:36 PM (Zz0t1)

489 That building collapsed faster then David French's dick in a whorehouse- and that's lighting fast.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 24, 2021 01:36 PM (dhhKu)

490 486 Forget the drugs, look at the lighting. Your daughter is clearly camming.
I assume "camming" means broadcasting porn over the internet. I've heard that happens.
Posted by: pep at June 24, 2021 01:35 PM (v16oJ)

========

I don't believe it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:36 PM (LvTSG)

491 "Officials fear", "Officials expect"... Kind of sounds like the average guy on the street who doesn't know anything, either.

Posted by: t-bird at June 24, 2021 01:37 PM (KDCRD)

492 What time of day did this collapse happen? At night, early morning?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:37 PM (/XOcP)

493
Smirnoff Cherry is very good with Coca-Cola. 1:2 and 1:1 both work well.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:32 PM (em09h)



I will never do anything with coca cola ever again. They hate me because of my SKIN COLOR.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)

494 all of western MA is purty nice

Stockbridge is just north of me
Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:34 PM


Yes it is. Almost makes you forget you're in MA.

I need to get back out to Lee some weekend to do a little outlet shopping.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:37 PM (m+jkK)

495 >All you people who live in free states where you can get ammo shipped to you.

I live in CO
that's 'formerly free'
now ruled by socialists and sodomites

Posted by: DB- just DB at June 24, 2021 01:38 PM (iTXRQ)

496 What time of day did this collapse happen? At night, early morning?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:37 PM (/XOcP)


I think 1:30 a.m. or so.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:38 PM (GbPPJ)

497
Smirnoff Cherry is very good with Coca-Cola. 1:2 and 1:1 both work well.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:32 PM (em09h)


Oh, and Smirnoff paid Megan Rapinoe for their commercials, so out on them as well.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

498 got a bumblebee trying to fuck my hand atm

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM (8o8kf)

499 We'll find out this building is where Dominion was storing their hard drives.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM (vFEa1)

500 >>all of western MA is purty nice
Stockbridge is just north of me


The North Shore is lovely, too - Cape Ann, Ipswich and Essex, up to Newburyport.

Posted by: Lizzy at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM (bDqIh)

501 What time of day did this collapse happen? At night, early morning?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

iirc - 0130.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM (Rvt88)

502 The only problem is that it's in MA.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 01:35 PM


Sadly, yes. MA is a very different place west of 495. Except for the 5-college area north of the Tofu Curtain. That's still batshit crazy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM (m+jkK)

503 Forget the drugs, look at the lighting. Your daughter is clearly camming.
***
I assume "camming" means broadcasting porn over the internet. I've heard that happens.

***

I wasn't going to say anything, but my mind went to engine components. Thanks for explaining what it probably means.

Hahaha, I'm old.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM (em09h)

504 498 got a bumblebee trying to fuck my hand atm
Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM (8o8kf)

Ain't nature grand?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM (z5Vrg)

505 I think 1:30 a.m. or so.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at June 24, 2021 01:38 PM (GbPPJ)

Also knows as "ballot drop-off time".

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM (vFEa1)

506 I will never do anything with coca cola ever again. They hate me because of my SKIN COLOR.
Posted by: Sponge


Single malt scotch. Neat.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:40 PM (+UWHh)

507 Yeah, they have earthquakes here, but the amount of concrete and steel in each building is staggering. like, 5x the material.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 24, 2021 01:36 PM (9Wrbj)

...

Not if it's designed right. More mass hurts terribly when it comes to earthquakes, so engineers have a huge incentive to stay lighter.

Also the Japanese led the way on a lot of plastic design stuff--just making your building stiffer to resist earthquake loads is also an impossible proposition, because as the building get stiffer, the earthquake induces larger forces.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:40 PM (yL25O)

508 I blame gravity at this point...

I will note that Bob Graham (Democrat) was governor of Florida in 1981.

Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at June 24, 2021 01:40 PM (z/wDa)

509 My company performs these 40 year inspections, and I'm sure there were many of us this morning that checked to see if this was one of ours. We compete against outfits that basically rubber stamp these things for the local authorities. As the licensed professional I have to sign off on the electrical ones to certify the building is safe and free from defect. Can't do that for $500.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand at June 24, 2021 01:40 PM (EUaR1)

510 The Graboids are not a myth.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 24, 2021 01:28 PM (yQpMk)



Yes, but everything after Tremors 2 (or Tremors 3, if you're into it) *is* a myth.

Posted by: Thrawn at June 24, 2021 01:31 PM

I die in the last tremors movie.

Posted by: Bert Gummer at June 24, 2021 01:40 PM (JUOKG)

511 Cutting the yard while sipping on scotch in 100 degree 100% humidity July days in the South isn't as fun as it sounds.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM (em09h)

512 Making concrete with sea water rots out the rebar.

Way ahead of you, bro. We didn't use rebar in order to prevent that!

Posted by: AAA Building Co., The First Name In The Phonebook! at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM (2nFxy)

513 That was a pricey condo, too. Average was between $600k and $700k. A 12th floor condo sold for $3 million.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado - Tempus belli) at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM (N3El/)

514 Forget the drugs, look at the lighting. Your daughter is clearly camming.

I assume "camming" means broadcasting porn over the internet. I've heard that happens.

I wasn't going to say anything, but my mind went to engine components. Thanks for explaining what it probably means.

Hahaha, I'm old.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

So 420 is timing, right?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM (+UWHh)

515 The media is already trying to go with a state building code/state inspection narrative to pin it on DeSantis. Lol. You knew it was coming- right?

Posted by: Marcus T at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM (dhhKu)

516 I need to get back out to Lee some weekend to do a little outlet shopping.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:37 PM (m+jkK)

by then, Great Barrington should have 8 pot shops

and for a palate cleanser, CT goes legal July 1st

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM (8o8kf)

517 So 420 is timing, right?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM (+UWHh)
++++
It's what time you have to wake up to get to work.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM (Jsjd7)

518 Can't do that for $500.

Posted by: Dr. Shatterhand

But you know what you can do for $500?

-- Veep Throat

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:42 PM (Rvt88)

519
Posted by: AAA Building Co., The First Name In The Phonebook! at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM (2nFxy)

__________

Anthony Soprano, managing director.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 01:42 PM (mht8P)

520 I will never do anything with coca cola ever again. They hate me because of my SKIN COLOR.
Posted by: Sponge


Single malt scotch. Neat.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:40 PM (+UWHh)

Damned fine idea my good man! Its almost noon here. Dont mind if i do.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2021 01:42 PM (axyOa)

521 That was a pricey condo, too. Average was between $600k and $700k. A 12th floor condo sold for $3 million.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado - Tempus belli) at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM (N3El/)



Seller: CHA-CHING!!!!!!

Buyer: SHIIIIIII..........


Too soon?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)

522 Single malt scotch. Neat.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021


***
My mother, a bourbon and Canadian drinker, told me once she thought Scotch tasted like iodine. I could never see that. But Mom must have remembered the scene in Mister Roberts where he, the doctor, and Pulver are trying to concoct fake Scotch. They use iodine for the color!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:42 PM (/XOcP)

523 Current flow in circuits is pretty much mathematically the inverse of shear flow in beams, plates, webs, and stiffeners. Thus ends my knowledge of EE.
Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2021 01:34 PM (FZS4E)

...

Nobody told him his slab didn't have enough capacitance at the columns.

There are a ton of things about structural engineering that everyone understands intuitively from stacking blocks as a two year old and assembling IKEA furniture.

And you can build a lot of stuff just knowing a few fundamentals. The problem is not knowing where the edge of the map is and where you get into trouble. Most days I don't use my education but then there are days when it counts a whole lot.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:43 PM (yL25O)

524 #203 Hoover is looking at collapse in another 210 years.

Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2021 01:43 PM (J1cL/)

525 The North Shore is lovely, too - Cape Ann, Ipswich and Essex, up to Newburyport.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM


That's where I come from. Nice area.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:43 PM (m+jkK)

526 It's what time you have to wake up to get to work.
Posted by: Joe Mannix


Don't remind me.
Since the move, yeah. 1.5 hrs drive time.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:43 PM (+UWHh)

527 The media is already trying to go with a state building code/state inspection narrative to pin it on DeSantis. Lol. You knew it was coming- right?
Posted by: Marcus T at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM (dhhKu)



Because he's changed the laws governing such things a TON since becoming governor, right? I mean, right?!?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:43 PM (Zz0t1)

528 So 420 is timing, right?

**

I've never heard of them, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were 4:20 gears out there.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:43 PM (em09h)

529 502 The only problem is that it's in MA.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 24, 2021 01:35 PM

Sadly, yes. MA is a very different place west of 495. Except for the 5-college area north of the Tofu Curtain. That's still batshit crazy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM (m+jkK)

where I live, Boston pretends to help us and we pretend to follow

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM (8o8kf)

530 I thought everything bad that happens is the president's fault? Oh that was just 2017 to 2020 you say?

What's that?

Everything bad that happens is the *previous* president's fault?

Got it.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM (vFEa1)

531 508 I blame gravity at this point...

I will note that Bob Graham (Democrat) was governor of Florida in 1981.
Posted by: Evi L. Bloggerlady at June 24, 2021 01:40 PM (z/wDa)
----------
Sure, but Reagan was President. Top Republican gets blamed, that's the rule.

Posted by: zmdavid at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM (xqRaG)

532 Too soon?
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)

...

I'm sure there are dozens of developers already working up the pro forma to come back with a 40 story tower on that site.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM (yL25O)

533
Don't remind me.
Since the move, yeah. 1.5 hrs drive time.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:43 PM (+UWHh)



I'm looking forward to that drive time if I can get the land I want, with a house.......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM (Zz0t1)

534 Out of the clear blue?

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM (Cxk7w)

535 So 420 is timing, right?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM

Zero degrees top dead center for a 1970 Chevy 350 with a manual transmission.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM (JUOKG)

536 And you can build a lot of stuff just knowing a few fundamentals. The problem is not knowing where the edge of the map is and where you get into trouble. Most days I don't use my education but then there are days when it counts a whole lot.
Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:43 PM (yL25O)
++++
Thus Kipling's Hymn of Breaking Strain.
https://is.gd/v6UW9c

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:45 PM (Jsjd7)

537 "Because he's changed the laws governing such things a TON since becoming governor, right? I mean, right?!?
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:43 PM (Zz0t1)"

You're not thinking like a liberal. He's done too many things he shouldn't be doing and ignored the state building codes!! Eleventy!!

Posted by: Marcus T at June 24, 2021 01:45 PM (dhhKu)

538 The reason I started drinking scotch? 1st marriage, in-laws and extended family were coon-asses. They'd drink anything made of alcohol EXCEPT for scotch. Only way to protect an $80 bottle was to drink scotch.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:45 PM (+UWHh)

539 Did they put in something to catch the water, who knows. As-builts plans probably weren't really known in the 30's.
Posted by: Scott_T at June 24, 2021 01:29 PM (2waQ7)

I've worked off as-builts from 1915, so they were a thing. However, most construction from the time was done to spec, instead of changed over the course of construction. Not the case any more, as contractors maximize profit by bidding low and then changing everything to their own advantage, as the contracting officers allow all sorts of crap to go on. Character and honestly have done a digger in that business.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 24, 2021 01:46 PM (SDdx5)

540 My mother, a bourbon and Canadian drinker, told me once she thought Scotch tasted like iodine. I could never see that. But Mom must have remembered the scene in Mister Roberts where he, the doctor, and Pulver are trying to concoct fake Scotch. They use iodine for the color!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:42 P


Some do have a seaweedy, iodine-like taste. Lagavulin and Laphroaig are good examples. Their foundations are pretty much underwater at high tide.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:46 PM (m+jkK)

541 "So I glanced at Wiki's sinkhole article, and it seems a lot of them are located in Gulf states- Texas, Louisiana and Alabama"

FIFY

Posted by: Hoyt's Wiki Team at June 24, 2021 01:46 PM (83lwH)

542 >>> I wasn't going to say anything, but my mind went to engine components. Thanks for explaining what it probably means.

Hahaha, I'm old.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:39 PM (em09h)


I remember some commercials for a Vo-Tech school when I was growing up where the hook was: "Ok come here and learn a trade like machining camshafts but did you know there are girls here too?" And the last clip shows a bunch of girls with welding hats on saying in unison "See You In Class!"

Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2021 01:47 PM (FZS4E)

543 Nobody told him his slab didn't have enough capacitance at the columns.

There are a ton of things about structural engineering that everyone understands intuitively from stacking blocks as a two year old and assembling IKEA furniture.

And you can build a lot of stuff just knowing a few fundamentals. The problem is not knowing where the edge of the map is and where you get into trouble. Most days I don't use my education but then there are days when it counts a whole lot.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:43 PM (yL25O)

------

So much white supremacy in one comment, where do I begin?

/Triggered in graduate school

Posted by: ShainS at June 24, 2021 01:47 PM (tHrkv)

544 you know your old when your Rascal is Scag Cheetah

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:47 PM (8o8kf)

545 Biden: "I want the people of Miami to remember one thing. "Build, back, better". Now stop wining and go get an ice cream cone. Chocolate.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 24, 2021 01:47 PM (dhhKu)

546 What's that?

Everything bad that happens is the *previous* president's fault?

Got it.
Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021


***
Then by that logic, the Woohoo Flu can be blamed on Obama.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:47 PM (/XOcP)

547 So 420 is timing, right?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM

Zero degrees top dead center for a 1970 Chevy 350 with a manual transmission.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM (JUOKG)

but is a positrack rear standard on that...?

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 24, 2021 01:47 PM (8D42x)

548 where I live, Boston pretends to help us and we pretend to follow
Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM


Hell, where you are, most of Boston thinks you're in NY.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:48 PM (m+jkK)

549 I've read that the Empire State Building can be expected to stand 300 years with zero maintenance.

Posted by: torabora at June 24, 2021 01:48 PM (J1cL/)

550 546 Then by that logic, the Woohoo Flu can be blamed on Obama.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:47 PM (/XOcP)

==========

The unemployment rate in April of 2020.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at June 24, 2021 01:48 PM (LvTSG)

551 Only way to protect an $80 bottle was to drink scotch.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:45 PM (+UWHh)

The only time my family drinks scotch is when i buy an $80 bottle.I
Sigh...

Posted by: Diogenes at June 24, 2021 01:48 PM (axyOa)

552 We inherited this building from Trump and you expect us to keep his wall up?!

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 24, 2021 01:48 PM (fFtVH)

553 And we are well aware of what "420" means.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:23 PM (UPoLF)

***********

My weight in kilograms!

Posted by: Stacy Abrams at June 24, 2021 01:48 PM (xxG/v)

554 And the last clip shows a bunch of girls with welding hats on saying in unison "See You In Class!"
Posted by: banana Dream at June 24, 2021 01:47 PM (FZS4E

I didn't realize you could machine a sandwich. The things you learn from the Horde.

Posted by: ... at June 24, 2021 01:48 PM (vFEa1)

555 Only way to protect an $80 bottle was to drink scotch.

**

That's pretty darn clever.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM (em09h)

556 Catastrophic failure just doesn't happen without a push, either bomb, gas rupture, earthquake or something else.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM (Cxk7w)

557 So 420 is timing, right?

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM

Zero degrees top dead center for a 1970 Chevy 350 with a manual transmission.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM (JUOKG)

but is a positrack rear standard on that...?
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 24, 2021 01:47 PM


We'll need Ms. Vito to weigh in on this.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM (m+jkK)

558 "Buildings don't fall down in America"? Has this clown ever heard of the Hard Rock Hotel in Gnaw-luns? Took the imbeciles here most of a year to finish knocking it down after the collapse. The right lane of the major street in front is still closed off.
Posted by: W


Has this guy ever heard of the skyway in the Kansas City Hyatt?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM (q+fko)

559 Dunno about the collapsed building but this is China:

https://youtu.be/szBiPDIokDE

https://youtu.be/HXZPL_TEKRg

Posted by: Biden's Dog at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM (oj5rr)

560 Also the Japanese led the way on a lot of plastic design stuff--just making your building stiffer to resist earthquake loads is also an impossible proposition, because as the building get stiffer, the earthquake induces larger forces.
Posted by: TexasDan

This may be for high rises, but for the common 5-10 story RC building, it is build like a pill box on the maginot line

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM (9Wrbj)

561 What's a graboid?

Posted by: Bosk at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM (FgPjD)

562 556 Catastrophic failure just doesn't happen without a push, either bomb, gas rupture, earthquake or something else.
Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM (Cxk7w)


I say again: skyway in the KC Hyatt. It fell down all by itself.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (q+fko)

563 Catastrophic failure just doesn't happen without a push, either bomb, gas rupture, earthquake or something else.

I'm still thinking that was caused by a sinkhole, which is now partially filled in and may not get much larger.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (HaL55)

564 $20, same as in town.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (em09h)

565 Thus Kipling's Hymn of Breaking Strain.
https://is.gd/v6UW9c
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:45 PM (Jsjd7)

...

Thanks for that.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (yL25O)

566 Early Ikea. Since revised.

Posted by: klaftern at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (r4sI4)

567 A good fiction book written in the 1970's about poor building construction and corruption in Florida is John D. MacDonald's "Condominium".

Posted by: Jolo at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (WrMOC)

568 What's a graboid?
Posted by: Bosk at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM


$20, same as in town.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (m+jkK)

569 Single malt scotch. Neat.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:40 PM (+UWHh)


I find it sad that so few of the younger generation know what neat means, even at steakhouses.

I'll order it and they just look at me. I tell them that there shouldn't be anything but whisky and glass.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (U7wke)

570 Zero degrees top dead center for a 1970 Chevy 350 with a manual transmission.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM (JUOKG)



but is a positrack rear standard on that...?

Posted by: SturmToddler at June 24, 2021 01:47 PM

Not on the Nova IIRC. I think you got it on the SS version though. It's been a while.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (JUOKG)

571 We'll need Ms. Vito to weigh in on this.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState


She can sit on my lap while she recites her lines.

Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (+UWHh)

572 What's a graboid?
Posted by: Bosk

$20 - same as in town.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (Rvt88)

573 Character and honestly have done a digger in that business.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 24, 2021 01:46 PM (SDdx5)


My first job out of school was in Anchorage back in 1980. Boss came in one day from a job site and related that the foreman had said these exact words to him "If we knew you were going to look at it we would have done it right".

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 24, 2021 01:51 PM (NxOLn)

574 1. Sinkhole, or related undercutting of foundation.
2. Corrosion
3. Abrahamic vengeance for observant Jews voting for Democrats

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2021 01:51 PM (Xih1H)

575 548 where I live, Boston pretends to help us and we pretend to follow
Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM

Hell, where you are, most of Boston thinks you're in NY.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:48 PM (m+jkK)

they tell us not to burn after 4 pm but they left out the EST

hahahaha

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:51 PM (8o8kf)

576 So 420 is timing, right?
Posted by: rickb223 at June 24, 2021 01:41 PM

Zero degrees top dead center for a 1970 Chevy 350 with a manual transmission.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 24, 2021 01:44 PM (JUOKG)

but is a positrack rear standard on that...?
Posted by: SturmToddler at June 24, 2021 01:47 PM

We'll need Ms. Vito to weigh in on this.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM (m+jkK)

permission to treat the witness as hostile, your honor...?

Posted by: Vinny Gambini at June 24, 2021 01:51 PM (8D42x)

577 I knew that would happen. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:51 PM (Rvt88)

578 Prayers for all inside and those that have lost family. Watching that 10 year old boy, I wondered if any of his family made/makes it out alive along with all of the others.

A helluva wake up at 2am.

Posted by: Cheri at June 24, 2021 01:51 PM (oiNtH)

579 I say again: skyway in the KC Hyatt. It fell down all by itself.

Yeah. To quote structural engineer John Bender: screws fall out all the time; the world is an imperfect place.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 24, 2021 01:51 PM (QU5/8)

580 "Buildings don't fall down in America"

Because no city government is corrupt.

Posted by: SF's Millenium Tower at June 24, 2021 01:52 PM (/2aWP)

581 "I will never do anything with coca cola ever again. They hate me because of my SKIN COLOR."

They're just asking you to act less white.

When you want a coke, just apply a crowbar.

I was sending them emails asking their position on abortion and Palestine, since they decided to enter politics. I keep getting back form letters about how my feedback is valuable. Told them that's not his works.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 24, 2021 01:52 PM (83lwH)

582 556 Catastrophic failure just doesn't happen without a push, either bomb, gas rupture, earthquake or something else.
Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM (Cxk7w)

I say again: skyway in the KC Hyatt. It fell down all by itself.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

That was acoustics, lots of little pushes

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2021 01:52 PM (Xih1H)

583 Yeah. To quote structural engineer John Bender: screws fall out all the time; the world is an imperfect place.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 24, 2021 01:51 PM (QU5/
++++
Entropy's a bitch and a half all on its own.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 24, 2021 01:52 PM (Jsjd7)

584 Coke wants white people to steal their sh*t.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:52 PM (em09h)

585 I just saw that Tater Stelter's book sold less than 2,000 copies in the first week of sales, after extensive promotion on CNN, MSNBC, and other MFM outlets. LOLGF.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 24, 2021 01:53 PM (6XLoz)

586 My mother, a bourbon and Canadian drinker, told me once she thought Scotch tasted like iodine. I could never see that.

I could see someone thinking that about an Islay...or an Islay predominant blend.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 24, 2021 01:53 PM (U7wke)

587 I say again: skyway in the KC Hyatt. It fell down all by itself.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Wasn't that a bolt/threaded rod issue?

Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:53 PM (Rvt88)

588 Sinkholes are rare that close to a sandy beach (but not impossible). If you look at the video of the actual collapse, the center collapses first - and very quickly. What ever it was it was very quick. This was either a sinkhole, a carefully designed deliberate implosion or maybe corroded rebar giving way at the same time in multiple pylons. If corroded rebar went in one pylon, the building would not have collapsed, but maybe there were several pylons that were badly corroded inside, and all it took was for one pylon to go, and the rest followed. What is CERTAIN is the the MSM will blame DeSantis in some way.

Posted by: ggm at June 24, 2021 01:53 PM (bDq4M)

589 562 556 Catastrophic failure just doesn't happen without a push, either bomb, gas rupture, earthquake or something else.
Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2021 01:49 PM (Cxk7w)

I say again: skyway in the KC Hyatt. It fell down all by itself.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (q+fko)

...

Hyatt collapsed because they modified the way the skybridges were hung. All three levels were supposed to hang from a single long rod; the gc wanted to change the detail because threading the nut up 30 feet to support the level was a pain. So they broke the hangers into sections.

So instead of the topmost level being supported by the hanger rod, it had to carry the two levels below it.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:53 PM (yL25O)

590 I've read that the Empire State Building can be expected to stand 300 years with zero maintenance.
Posted by: torabora

They don't build then like that anymore

Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2021 01:53 PM (Xih1H)

591 don't buy a condo. it's sub-optimal for many reasons.
Posted by: x at June 24, 2021 01:13 PM (oA+QO)

True, dat.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 24, 2021 01:54 PM (zeaaN)

592 ...They try to taze him, it doesn't work SHOCKING!
They shoot him.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 24, 2021 01:20 PM (YYlyE)


After watching dozens of videos on this channel, the only time I recall a tazer working was a fat old lady who thought she was famous because her grandkids were sucked up by a twister 20 years ago. She refused to sign a ticket for a broken tail light, and decided to split. Because famous.

And I gotta admit, it was worth it to listen to her screams.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at June 24, 2021 01:54 PM (wAnMi)

593 A sinkhole could easily do it.

Posted by: Skip at June 24, 2021 01:54 PM (Cxk7w)

594 584 Coke wants white people to steal their sh*t.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Juneteenth, because America needs a holiday celebrating ignorance of news at June 24, 2021 01:52 PM (em09h)


Just to let you know

"Tab" spelt backards is "Bat"

dunno

Posted by: REDACTED at June 24, 2021 01:54 PM (8o8kf)

595 A good fiction book written in the 1970's about poor building construction and corruption in Florida is John D. MacDonald's "Condominium".
Posted by: Jolo at June 24, 2021


***
I was just thinking of that novel! A wonderful picture of a town slammed by a hurricane too.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:54 PM (/XOcP)

596 nood potato...

Posted by: Vinny Gambini at June 24, 2021 01:54 PM (8D42x)

597 I just saw that Tater Stelter's book sold less than 2,000 copies in the first week of sales, after extensive promotion on CNN, MSNBC, and other MFM outlets. LOLGF.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 24, 2021 01:53 PM (6XLoz)



Doesn't matter. He'd likely already received a substantial 7 figure advance.

It's all money laundering......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 24, 2021 01:55 PM (Zz0t1)

598 Hold it, 'g' stands for gravity? Fuck, I was putting a zero in there to make the answer right...

Posted by: City Inspector at June 24, 2021 01:55 PM (Lt1JN)

599 just saw that Tater Stelter's book sold less than 2,000 copies in the first week of sales, after extensive promotion on CNN, MSNBC, and other MFM outlets. LOLGF.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 24, 2021 01:53

He must come from a big family.
How many moms can one Tater have?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 24, 2021 01:57 PM (cSyAR)

600 It looks like there was parking below this condo. Someone could have taken out a column with a truck maybe.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 01:57 PM (yL25O)

601 My mother, a bourbon and Canadian drinker, told me once she thought Scotch tasted like iodine. I could never see that.

I could see someone thinking that about an Islay...or an Islay predominant blend.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 24, 2021


***
I doubt Mom ever tried a single malt or any exotic Scotch. When she grew up, ordering White Horse or Cutty Sark were considered "puttin' on the Ritz."

I did try Laphroaig once. Not my speed.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at June 24, 2021 01:57 PM (/XOcP)

602 Just to put a number on "massive," it looks like 5 to 8 apartments per story collapsed, depending on the size, and 12 stories. That works out to 60 to 100 apartments.

So maybe 100, 150 people inside when it collapsed. Could be much less if not fully occupied. Could be much more if the apts. had large families.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 24, 2021 01:58 PM (9Wrbj)

603 "If we knew you were going to look at it we would have done it right".
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at June 24, 2021 01:51 PM (NxOLn)

That sounds about right. I can't even get the damned engineers to submit proper calcs on DB work. No way in hell I approve construction without review. They are always surprised when I send it back. I LOOKED at it. Who knew?

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 24, 2021 01:59 PM (SDdx5)

604 Some do have a seaweedy, iodine-like taste. Lagavulin and Laphroaig are good examples. Their foundations are pretty much underwater at high tide.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at June 24, 2021 01:46 PM (m+jkK)

Anything from the Islay area is going to taste of iodine from the ocean air.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 24, 2021 01:59 PM (MHKOK)

605 590 I've read that the Empire State Building can be expected to stand 300 years with zero maintenance.
Posted by: torabora

They don't build then like that anymore
Posted by: Jean at June 24, 2021 01:53 PM (Xih1H)

...

Manhattan has pretty fantastic bedrock I think.

Most buildings will last 300 years if the waterproof envelope is maintained. That's the issue over time.

Posted by: TexasDan at June 24, 2021 02:00 PM (yL25O)

606 ||Farming a bunch of shit out to India is not doing us any favors. There is a lot of stuff run by code that you depend on every day that is slowly going to shit; just ask the few hundred people Boeing killed with their $9/hr outsourcers. If you have the third world run things for you, they're going to be third world quality.||

That is a point I have personally observed but not really thought through.

Posted by: moviegique at June 24, 2021 02:00 PM (dhFCT)

607 I tell them that there shouldn't be anything but whisky and glass.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic at June 24, 2021 01:50 PM (U7wke)
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In Scotland they will teach you, "Never drink whisky without water. And never drink water without whisky."

Posted by: Biden's Dog at June 24, 2021 02:01 PM (oj5rr)

608 My prediction -- the media will find that a state agency that does building inspections asked for more money in the budget than DeSantis and the Republicans authorized, and they'll do a "raises questions" smear tactic to plant the idea that it had something to do with the building collapse. A leftwing columnist in Minnesota basically followed that template in blaming a bridge collapse in the Twin Cities on Republicans.

Posted by: Bud Norton at June 24, 2021 02:01 PM (6cOMd)

609 Bolts, threaded rod... Something about the flat washer diameter and thickness. Did not spread the load so the assembly pulled through the (thin looking) box section span.

I remember hearing that some folks would get the whole thing bouncing up and down for sport. I lived outside KC at the time, it was big news. Not as big as George Brett.

Posted by: klaftern at June 24, 2021 02:03 PM (r4sI4)

610 567 A good fiction book written in the 1970's about poor building construction and corruption in Florida is John D. MacDonald's "Condominium".
-----------------
Pretty much all books written by Carl Hiaasen are take offs from John D. MacDonald. What Hiaasen lacks is a character like Travis McGee.

Posted by: Puddin Head at June 24, 2021 02:06 PM (/MaDp)

611 587 I say again: skyway in the KC Hyatt. It fell down all by itself.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Wasn't that a bolt/threaded rod issue?
Posted by: Tonypete at June 24, 2021 01:53 PM (Rvt8

Yes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 24, 2021 02:07 PM (q+fko)

612 We had almost the same type of collapse on the set of Hollywood Squares once when Rosie O'Donnell went to hug Louis Anderson who was in the center square.

Posted by: John Davidson at June 24, 2021 02:11 PM (+oR7L)

613 JROD: "You're the dumbshit that can't differentiate between a common GOPe hack and an actual conservative."

No, that's your strawman. Having worked at the Texas State Capitol and in DC for 20+ years, I'm pretty sure I figured out the difference. I'm not stupid, not like people say.

Regardless, I'm sorry you're still nursing some grudge from last month(?) but I really can't play with you today.

I'm off next Tuesday. Come back then?



Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 24, 2021 02:12 PM (83lwH)

614 Wolfus @ 132 - We traded the stars for the welfare state. Nixon chose poorly.

Posted by: butch at June 24, 2021 02:29 PM (cHvOo)

615 612 We had almost the same type of collapse on the set of Hollywood Squares once when Rosie O'Donnell went to hug Louis Anderson who was in the center square.

Posted by: John Davidson at June 24, 2021 02:11 PM (+oR7L)

------

That's one way of "taking the Center Square to cock-block."

Posted by: Paul Lynde at June 24, 2021 02:30 PM (+jo58)

616 Wasn't 81 tye heyday of the backup building in Florida? Several of them collapsed during construction, iirc.

Posted by: Fox2! at June 24, 2021 02:33 PM (MHKOK)

617 Update - new video shows a bus leaving prior to the collapse. Passengers all were wearing red MAGA hats.

Posted by: Cuffy at June 24, 2021 02:35 PM (68Bw0)

618 Sh*thole country engineering, brought here by illegal aliens thanks to the Democrats.

Posted by: Dr Wang at June 24, 2021 02:36 PM (1pEHT)

619 Under all that rubble there will be a very flat truck that struck one of the pillars that comprise the ground floor.

Posted by: Valley of Kings at June 24, 2021 02:53 PM (z3Q/9)

620 Memo to future self: If you insist on moving to the Miami area, do not buy/rent any housing built before the Miami/Dade Code changes made after Andrew.
And have an honest-to-G*d PE inspect the housing if buying.


Posted by: chuckR at June 24, 2021 03:07 PM (bRvKP)

621 A great example of why we dont need BIG GOVERNMENT telling us how to build
Let the free market rule !!

Posted by: Proud Moderate at June 24, 2021 04:01 PM (eVFZz)

622 But compare the construction of the twin towers to, say, the empire state building. Which might be the most over engineered building in the history of the world, and could probably eat a 757 or two for breakfast. Over engineering is not always the worst thing in the world.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at June 24, 2021 01:04 PM (UPoLF)

Empire State did have a B-25 collide with it from what I recall.

Posted by: Oldcat at June 24, 2021 04:19 PM (eoQWY)

623 The bridge over the Mississippi River in Memphis Tennessee, on I-40, a major transcontinental thoroughfare, is closed and will remain closed through the summer because a huge, gaping crack in a main support beam was not seen by a bridge inspector - TWICE.
Your expert class has a steady hand on the tiller, folks. Go on back to your Netflix programming; everything is A-OK.

Posted by: jbspry at June 24, 2021 05:55 PM (ATe9j)

624 TD and VOM

That condo you remember was under construction in Cocoa Beach. It was terrible. Pancaked with workers in it. Poor structural design by a bunch of NASA PEs. It was horrible, CB is.a very small town and everybody had to drive by it for days when they were trying to dig their buddies out,

Posted by: pawn at June 24, 2021 07:27 PM (447JC)

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