Sunday Morning Book Thread 06-20-2021

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Suzzallo Library, University of Washington

Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules). Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which I would definitely wear to a Andy Warhol's barbecue. And the boots. Yeah, I'd wear those, too.

Pic Note:

From the Suzzallo Library wiki page:

Of the 6 million volumes that make up the University of Washington Libraries collection, approximately 1.6 million are housed in Suzzallo/Allen Library. Along with the Main Collection, Suzzallo/Allen Library also has a Children's Literature, Government Publications, Natural Sciences, and Periodicals collections. The Special Collections contains a Rare Book Collection with books printed before 1801. The Microforms/Newspapers collection is the largest collection of microform materials in any Association of Researches Library. Suzzallo Library also houses the main technical services units of the UW Libraries, including the Monographic Services Division and the Serials Services Division.

It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

(h/t KT for today's word)

Too Bad The Cause He Was Fighting For Was A Lost One

Here's a guy I wish more students would learn about in school: Always with Honor: The Memoirs of General Wrangel is the historical account written by General Pyotr Wrangel, who was was pretty much the last guy to take a stand against Lenin and his bloodthirsty gang of Bolshevik thugs after they seized power in 1917.

As World War I drags on, political turmoil slowly paralyzes the Empire. The Czar abdicates. His replacements are ineffectual and incompetent. Violence sweeps the country. One by one, institutions collapse under the weight of chaos and terror. The Bolsheviks, a small group of communist radicals initially supported by German intelligence, launch a revolution that sends the country into a tailspin. The nation is plunged into a terrible civil war which by its end will leave over 10 million Russians dead, with millions more scattered across the globe.

Leading the anti-communist "White" forces against the new "Red" army to the end was Pyotr Wrangel. Wrangel, a career cavalry officer who fought with distinction in the Russo-Japanese War and World War i, found himself at the center of various intrigues in the early stages of the Russian Revolution. After narrowly escaping death at the hands of a Bolshevik execution squad, Wrangel joined the Volunteer Army of General Denikin. Although Wrangel accomplished the impossible repeatedly, leading his tiny cavalry force to victory over communist units many times its size, he was unable to persuade Denikin to abandon an ill-planned assault on Moscow. After that offensive failed, the Volunteer Army collapsed.

But not all at once. Wranger managed to reorganize his forces and succeeded in retaking Crimea and the surrounding area from the Reds. There, he and his remaining men staged a heroic defense while attempting to obtain international support. But it was to no avail. Russia was abandoned by its former allies and Wrangel's position became untenable. He personally directed the evacuation of his Army and thousands of civilian refugees. He escaped to Yugoslavia with his family and eventually settled in Belgium, where he died in 1928.

I think this would be a great project for moron author Alec Lloyd, author of Long Live Death: The Keys to Victory in the Spanish Civil War to tackle, i.e. a history of the post-Revolution civil war in Russia, 1917-1920, focusing on the "Red vs. White" military operations - armies, equipment, foreign involvement, tactics, blunders, the whole nine yards. I don't know if such a book has ever been written, but if not, Mr. Lloyd is the author who was born to do it.

The Kindle edition of Always with Honor: The Memoirs of General Wrangel is only $4.99.

Who Dis:

(Last week's 'who dis' was Matthew Mcconaughey who's looking the worse for wear.)

Moron Recommendations

Mrs. Muse got to talking with her doctor during an appointment a couple of months ago and the conversation turned to books. He recommended The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks document the strange fate of a poor southern black girl:

Her name was Henrietta Lacks, but scientists know her as HeLa. She was a poor Southern tobacco farmer who worked the same land as her slave ancestors, yet her cells—taken without her knowledge—became one of the most important tools in medicine: The first “immortal” human cells grown in culture, which are still alive today, though she has been dead for more than sixty years. HeLa cells were vital for developing the polio vaccine; uncovered secrets of cancer, viruses, and the atom bomb’s effects; helped lead to important advances like in vitro fertilization, cloning, and gene mapping; and have been bought and sold by the billions...Henrietta’s family did not learn of her “immortality” until more than twenty years after her death...And though the cells had launched a multimillion-dollar industry that sells human biological materials, her family never saw any of the profits

From what Mrs. Muse tells me, there was something unusual about Ms. Lacks' cells so that they were able to keep growing and multiplying indefinitely, a feature that medical researchers used to their advantage -- but not to the Lacks family's.

Mrs. Muse started reading it and could scarecely put it down. It is a very well-told true story.

The Kindle edition is $13.99 (exactly the same as the hardcover edition). But we saved money by buying a used copy for only about $5.

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57 Recommended here a few months ago, I read Beartown by Fredrick Backman, the author of Ove. Beartown is a small town in Sweden located on a lake and surrounded by forest. Beartown, like many small towns, is slowly dying. Beartown is a hockey town. Hockey is what unites the town, and when its junior team wins the semi-final in the national playoff match, the town is more united than ever. However, an incident at the team's post-game party that night tears the town apart.

This is one of the best novels that I have read. Backman captures the essence of a small town and what it is like to live in one. In particular I liked when he gives the history of his characters and offers psychological insights into their actions.

Posted by: Zoltan at June 13, 2021 08:24 AM (kiyX4)

Great review by Zoltan of Beartown, not much I can add to it. Oh, other than to tell you that there are actually two Beartown novels by Backman. The 2nd one is called Us Against You and once again, the plot revolves around small-town hockey:

...Beartown is home to tough, hardworking people who don’t expect life to be easy or fair. No matter how difficult times get, they’ve always been able to take pride in their local ice hockey team. So it’s a cruel blow when they hear that Beartown ice hockey might soon be disbanded. What makes it worse is the obvious satisfaction that all the former Beartown players, who now play for a rival team in the neighboring town of Hed, take in that fact. As the tension mounts between the two adversaries, a newcomer arrives who gives Beartown hockey a surprising new coach and a chance at a comeback...But bringing this team together proves to be a challenge as old bonds are broken, new ones are formed, and the town’s enmity with Hed grows more and more acute.

Both of these novels carry the Amazon "Editors' Pick" label, and for $12.99, it's easy to see why.

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Lurker Liro100 e-mails his recommendation:

Unsettled, by Steve Koonin. Subtitle is What Climate Science tells us, what it doesn't, and why it matters. There is a good discussion of the book on the website wattsupwiththat.com

I've just started reading it but the lack of hysteria is refreshing and it upsets all the right people. Bjorn Lomborg wrote a favorable blurb for it.

Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn�t, and Why It Matters attempts to clear up misconceptions about climate science:

When it comes to climate change, the media, politicians, and other prominent voices have declared that “the science is settled.” In reality, the long game of telephone from research to reports to the popular media is corrupted by misunderstanding and misinformation... this book gives readers the tools to both understand the climate issue and be savvier consumers of science media in general. Koonin takes readers behind the headlines to the more nuanced science itself, showing us where it comes from and guiding us through the implications of the evidence. He dispels popular myths and unveils little-known truths: despite a dramatic rise in greenhouse gas emissions, global temperatures actually decreased from 1940 to 1970. What’s more, the models we use to predict the future aren’t able to accurately describe the climate of the past, suggesting they are deeply flawed.

This is why it disturbs me when I hear that Bill Gates wants to dump tons of particles in the upper atmosphere to dim the sun to cool things down. I don't know if what he wants to do is possible, but the sheer hubris is staggering.

Dr. Koonin served as Undersecretary for Science in the US Department of Energy under President Obama from 2009 to 2011, where his portfolio included the climate research program and energy technology strategy.

The Kindle edition is $11.99.

From the Library of All Hail Eris:

Books By Morons

Moron author Daniel Humphreys series featuring supernatural investigator Paxton Locke, which began with Fade has just been incremented by 1 with the release of the fourth installment, The Sacred Radiance:

Life is normal for Paxton Locke.

As normal as it can get as a government agent working against the supernatural, that is. But Paxton has a steady job, a house, a life in one place. A life that he’s sharing with Cassie. It’s stability he has never had, a life he could have only dreamed of while ghost hunting in his RV.

But there are still unanswered questions...and whispers of a wizard at work. Paxton and his team head to England to investigate...

Soon Paxton and his team realize ancient wizard Aleister Knight is gathering items for an insane, destructive ritual deeply tied into the history of England...and the only way to stop him is to descend into the bowels of his island fortress.

Daniel tells me:

It should blow away any members of the horde who liked the first three; I turned it up waaay past 11.

Even better, the follow-up should be out in a few months.

I'm sure he'll let me know when book #5 drops. All of the Paxton Locke books sell on Kindle for $4.99.

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Jeff Lowe (I've mentioned his books The Book of Cain and The Relic: A Sea Story in previous book threads) has just published a horror novel, Rufus:

Five years after her parents were murdered by their foster child in Alabama, Rose Grissom got a mysterious package in the mail, seemingly from someone long dead. The contents of the package filled her with the suffocating fear that her parents' killer did not act alone, but was part of a boogeyman cult that had now turned its murderous gaze on her and her young family.

She was determined not to live in fear. And so she would go back down to the scene of the crime to solve the mystery of Rufus. He was supposed to be just a legend, a boogeyman tale, nothing more. But down in Crockett County, Alabama, in a swamp known as Hell's Back Forty, the blue-tail flies would tell a different story.

Sounds horrific.

There's more information on the author's web page, including a free peak at the first three chapters.

Available on Kindle for $3.00. There's also a paperback edition and an audiobook version is in the works.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM

Comments

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1 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:01 AM (arJlL)

2 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2021 08:02 AM (Cxk7w)

3 Happy Bookteenth

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:02 AM (arJlL)

4 Going back for a re-read of the Council Wars series by John Ringo.

Posted by: Vic at June 20, 2021 08:02 AM (mpXpK)

5 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

And happy father's day to those who qualify.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2021 08:04 AM (7EjX1)

6 Will finish Rise and Fall of the Third Reich maybe tomorrow.
Finished The New Order chapter a few minutes ago.
It's always been on my reading list for decades, shame it took so long to get it.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2021 08:05 AM (Cxk7w)

7 Still not back to reading. I think I read myself out in 2020.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 08:05 AM (yrol0)

8 Now I know where the name for the Gasconade River comes from. Been meaning to look that one up.

Posted by: klaftern at June 20, 2021 08:05 AM (r4sI4)

9 Suzzallo is an interesting example of architecture conveying such a strong impression that people are influenced to act a certain way. The room and the people entering it are naturally quiet, like respectful people entering a chapel. It's very interesting to experience.

Posted by: .87c at June 20, 2021 08:06 AM (TDP3i)

10 Jean Seberg

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:06 AM (ONvIw)

11 Not a great pic of her, but part of her "Bonjour Tristesse" look

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:07 AM (ONvIw)

12 I hope the model in the 'these pants' segment was well paid for looking and acting like a fagotty imbecile. What an insult to his parents.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2021 08:07 AM (7EjX1)

13 Will finish my summer of reading before summer gets here. That means I can take the summer off from reading.
Will have finished 3 volumes of Gulag Archipelago and RaFotTR in a month and a half.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2021 08:09 AM (Cxk7w)

14 I hope the model in the 'these pants' segment was well paid for looking and acting like a fagotty imbecile.
Posted by: JTB

I'd wager he wasn't acting.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2021 08:09 AM (Rvt88)

15 Is anyone familiar with Lee Strobel? One of his books is on the Kindle daily deals today: The Case For A Creator.

Curious if he is any good as a writer.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2021 08:10 AM (7EjX1)

16 12 I hope the model in the 'these pants' segment was well paid for looking and acting like a fagotty imbecile. What an insult to his parents.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2021 08:07 AM (7EjX1)

I like to think that, later on when they're older, they'll look back at this and be totally embarrassed by it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 08:11 AM (1NQvT)

17 87C - I looked at that library photograph and sighed deeply, wishing I were there. It's sad more libraries are not constructed that way - for readers, not people futzing about on computers.

Posted by: CarolinaGirl at June 20, 2021 08:11 AM (Kh9rg)

18 Finished book number 60 for the year this morning. Now to start book 61...

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at June 20, 2021 08:11 AM (K5n5d)

19 10 Jean Seberg

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:06 AM (ONvIw)

Yes!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 08:11 AM (1NQvT)

20 Wow, there must be a psychic disturbance out there or something! Having got bored with China, I was starting to dig into...

...wait for it...

...the Russian Civil War! I picked up Warsaw 1920 and have been looking at other material for research. It's an interesting conflict with cool steam-punk armored trains and cossacks running all over the place. Thanks for the vote of confidence!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 08:12 AM (llXky)

21 As soon as I saw the All Hail Eris book (CRABS: The Human Sacrifice), the "crab people" chant from South Park started running through my brain.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at June 20, 2021 08:13 AM (K5n5d)

22 I finally read Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption by Laura Hillenbrand, the author of Seabiscuit. This is the story of Louis Zamperini, who graduated from the same high school as I did and was a hometown hero. Zamperini was shot down over the Pacific in May of 1943. He and his pilot, Russell Phillips, survived 47 days at sea in a life raft. After drifting over 2,000 miles, they were picked up by the Japanese and taken to Kwajalein Island, known as Execution Island. For nearly 2 1/2 years he survived a series of Japanese POW camps. The book was seven years in the research and writing. It's a wonderful story of a miraculous life.

Posted by: Zoltan at June 20, 2021 08:13 AM (kiyX4)

23 "Rodomontade" - what a lovely, expressive $12 word! I shall have to use it, somewhere or other...
I've taken a break from Diana Galbadon, and dipped into some of the other books on my shelves: Sharyn McCrumb, "If I Had Killed Him When I Him..." - a story of two wives who killed, or may have killed their husbands, a hundred years apart. The modern-day murder is clearly based on the Betty Broderick murder and trial: a divorced wife of a high-flying local lawyer finally gets fed up with being dicked over by her ex and his new trophy wife, and shoots them both.
Very good, and witty dialoge.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at June 20, 2021 08:13 AM (xnmPy)

24 I hope the model in the 'these pants' segment was well paid for looking and acting like a fagotty imbecile.
Posted by: JTB

I'd wager he wasn't acting.
Posted by: Tonypete

I don't think he owns a weedwhacker. (if you catch my drift)

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:13 AM (arJlL)

25 My reading has been very scattered lately. I ordered a couple of Finney books, per MP4's recommendation. I also downloaded a copy of Elinor Glyn's work, which followed from the discussion of Clara Bow and her movies. Elinor Glyn wrote plenty of screen plays and adapted her work for the early movies. By modern standards they're very clean, but Glyn was the subject of a "sin" ditty for a reason

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:13 AM (ONvIw)

26 "Only one man in a thousand is a leader of men - the other 999 follow women."
Groucho Marx, one out of many

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 20, 2021 08:14 AM (HaL55)

27 As soon as I saw the All Hail Eris book (CRABS: The Human Sacrifice), the "crab people" chant from South Park started running through my brain.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at June 20, 2021 08:13 AM (K5n5d)
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Here we go: https://youtu.be/iEInNZ0oB-E

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at June 20, 2021 08:14 AM (K5n5d)

28 I'm pretty sure the Who Dis? is the (IMO) overrated Jean Seberg.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2021 08:15 AM (2JVJo)

29 Wow. I thought Jean Seberg was someone else. Why isn't she better-known?

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2021 08:16 AM (QZxDR)

30 In writing news, I posted my essay on Ford Madox Ford's The Good Soldier vs Evelyn Waugh's Brideshead Revisited. I think it's a bit more accessible than comparing multi-volume books few people have read.

One tangential bit I left out (because I didn't think of it until after I finished) is how Leonora Ashburnham is paralleled somewhat by Lady Marchmain. Of course, the outcome is very different, but it's interesting that both works feature a Catholic matriarch in a largely Protestant society.

I opened up the file of Battle Officer Wolf's sequel, changed a word and closed it. With the little one running around the house, it's really hard to get into writing a novel. You start to get into the mood and then little feet approach, a smiling face peeps around the corner, and it's play time! Writing can wait.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 08:16 AM (llXky)

31 @CN, my reading lately has been scattered too... I've been dipping back and forth between Mark Schweizer's Liturgical Mysteries series (highly-recommend) and a conspiracy-theory Vatican mystery, Windswept House. That one is supposed to be a thinly veiled story about real people, but it seems far-fetched. Anyone here ever heard anything about Windswept House?

Posted by: CarolinaGirl at June 20, 2021 08:17 AM (Kh9rg)

32 OK I missed Texas history as I was in AR in 7th and OK in 8th. I need a good Texas History book. Plus I want Kindle as I still have issues getting the contrast right with paper.

THX

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 08:17 AM (yrol0)

33 Happy Father's Day, Oregon Muse and all Horde dads and father figures!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 20, 2021 08:18 AM (oEn12)

34 It was a good week. The latest issue of Backwoodsman magazine arrived to be savored over several days.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2021 08:18 AM (7EjX1)

35 29 Wow. I thought Jean Seberg was someone else. Why isn't she better-known?
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2021 08:16 AM (QZxDR)

Died young.

I remember her for Bonjour Tristesse, Airport, and Lillith.

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:19 AM (ONvIw)

36 Would you like to sin
With Elinor Glyn
On a tiger skin?
Or would you prefer to err
With her
On some other fur?

https://tinyurl.com/4y8rm65k

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2021 08:19 AM (2JVJo)

37 I'm reading, "That Sounds Fun" for a church summer book club. So far, not impressed.I'm about 1/3 of the way through it and couldn't tell you what it's about... it's badly written and I can't relate to it or any of the stories the author uses to make whatever point she's trying to make. Ugh....

Posted by: lin-duh at June 20, 2021 08:19 AM (UUBmN)

38 15 JTB

He's fine as a writer, but his conceit in the framing of the book can wear--at least it did on me. The premise is the same as in his original book documenting his antogonistic investigation into the person and death of Christ through textural criticism and some medical investigation, about whether Jesus resurrected. He was an atheistic journalist attempting to disprove his wife's new-found faith, but ended up believing as well.

The other two books (possibly more?) that he wrote in the subject cover additional, related topics. The Case for a Creator consists of seven (I think) interviews covering the idea of the creation and a Creator of various important dimensions of existence: the universe, life, morality, consciousness, etc. Despite his years of faith he maintains his narrative style and oppositional stance in the interviews.

The book is good, I think worth reading, but my only complaint is the last section on consciousness, which I found so weak as to almost make me question the preceding sections, and to perhaps permanently destroy the person of J. P. Mooreland as a serious thinker in my eyes.

All in all, it's worth reading. Maybe skim the last section.

Posted by: .87c at June 20, 2021 08:20 AM (TDP3i)

39 36: That's the one. I recall hearing the poem before I knew it was a real person being parodied.

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:20 AM (ONvIw)

40 For my birthday, my wife gave me some G.K. Chesterton books. I already finished The Man Who Was Thursday: A Nightmare as it is a quick read and it's quite enjoyable. Chesterton has the quick wit and cutting asides I enjoy and he has that wonderful English way of taking foolish ideas (like socialism, secularism, etc.) to their logical - and absurd - conclusion.

I recommend the book but also recommend that you recall the *full title* of the book as you are reading it. It actually verges on the Lovecraftian at several points (though of course it came before Lovecraft).

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 08:20 AM (llXky)

41 it's badly written and I can't relate to it or any of the stories the author uses to make whatever point she's trying to make. Ugh....
Posted by: lin-duh

At what point does one punch out and bail on such a work? If I have that experience, I usually don't make it through chapter 2.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 20, 2021 08:21 AM (Rvt88)

42 So I am re-reading Jack Finney's Forgotten News, which is his re-telling of two yuge stories from 1857: the murder of NYC doctor Harvey Burdell and the sinking of the passenger ship Central America. In between the two stories are little past-century vignettes that tweaked Finney's interest.

Finney was the author of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but his metier was time travel books and stories, such as Time and Again and The Love Letter. He writes Forgotten in a very armchair, pull-at-your sleeve style, recreating the lost world beautifully and pulling you in as only a gifted writer can. Much recommended.

https://tinyurl.com/7u8uuzsd

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2021 08:23 AM (2JVJo)

43 Hiya Cannibal Bob !

(We KNOW you're in here !)

Regards to Heidi !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:24 AM (arJlL)

44 Tonypete,
If I were just reading it for myself I would have quit after the first few pages. It feels like a school assignment that I have to read. The book is anything but fun despite the title.

Posted by: lin-duh at June 20, 2021 08:25 AM (UUBmN)

45 Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption by Laura Hillenbrand

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Much of the book is about God and religion but, of course, Hollywood couldn't have that so they left all that out of the movie.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 20, 2021 08:26 AM (d9FiS)

46 The author supposedly has a very popular podcast so that qualifies her as an author????

Posted by: lin-duh at June 20, 2021 08:26 AM (UUBmN)

47 I'm giving my husband four Leon Uris books and a family lunch for Fathers Day. Long ago he said he's like to read more Uris when he had the time. He has the time.

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:27 AM (ONvIw)

48 Anyone here ever heard anything about Windswept House?
Posted by: CarolinaGirl at June 20, 2021 08:17 AM (Kh9rg)

Yes, I read it a couple of years ago.
The agents of the Adversary embedded deep in the Vatican - the premise explains a lot

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 20, 2021 08:27 AM (oEn12)

49 Nice Lieberry!

Those pants...(shudders)

The West has a long, sordid history of abandoning those who fought against the commies. Even today, China should be shunned by the rest of the world until they have a change of government. Too late I think. I am gonna read up on General Wrangel, Thanks OM!

The Who Dis is how Lizzy Warren thinks she looks.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 20, 2021 08:27 AM (R/m4+)

50 40 A. H. Lloyd:

I love The Man Who Was Thursday. I reread it every year or so, and so many of the quotes and ideas jn it are foundational to my understanding now (It is easy to miss the mark, the strange, elpical thing is to hit the mark. When a man with one wild arrow strikes the bird or one wild train hits his destinatjon, it is to me truly Victoria! Victory over chals, etc etc). I'm currently reading Manalive by him.

What Chesteton book are you reading now?

He's as influential to me as C. S. Lewis. But while Lewis is clear and logical, Chesterton is frequently dark and mystical/paradoxical, yet just as perceptive and wise.

Posted by: .87c at June 20, 2021 08:28 AM (TDP3i)

51 Anyone here ever heard anything about Windswept House?
Posted by: CarolinaGirl at June 20, 2021 08:17 AM (Kh9rg)

No, but it sounds interesting.

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:28 AM (ONvIw)

52 And I'm going to recommend a bit of music to the Horde - a new album by the group Oddfellows Casino, The Cult of Water. As reviewed in Fortean Times magazine (get it!), it "combines spoken word, field recordings, pastoral electronica and npstalgic psych-folk that will delight fans of the Haunted Generation" (and no, I don't know what that refers to, either).

Their website is oddfellowscasino.com, where you can hear what appears to be the most popular track from the album, The Ladybird Plague of 1976. It's not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but I like it a lot.

https://tinyurl.com/hxbkp5vu

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2021 08:28 AM (2JVJo)

53 Didn't Jean Seberg become a nun ?

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:29 AM (arJlL)

54 53 Didn't Jean Seberg become a nun ?
Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:29 AM (arJlL)

No way

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:29 AM (ONvIw)

55 What Chesteton book are you reading now?

He's as influential to me as C. S. Lewis. But while Lewis is clear
and logical, Chesterton is frequently dark and mystical/paradoxical, yet
just as perceptive and wise.

Posted by: .87c at June 20, 2021 08:28 AM (TDP3i)

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Agreed on the quotability. Had to pause a few times and read lines to my wife. He's very good. Next up is Orthodoxy.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 08:30 AM (llXky)

56 This week I read "The Forest of Time," a collection of short SF and fantasy stories by Michael Flynn. He's a criminally underrated writer. I've never seen anything by him that wasn't excellent. Most of the stories in this book are time travel or related, and he's wonderful at depicting past eras. Really does his research but doesn't beat the reader over the head with it. Recommended.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2021 08:30 AM (QZxDR)

57 Henrietta Lacks' cells:

Henrietta's cells were found to be the only cells in multiple cancer cell lines when testing was finally done on those lines.
It seems lab research people have been flagrantly poor at handling research subjects for much longer then most appreciate.
The Wuhan failure is actually typical of their expertise.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at June 20, 2021 08:31 AM (furiY)

58 I think I knew about this earlier, but if anyone is interested and has not yet gotten around to reading Larry Correira, John Ringo, Ryk E. Spoor and others -- Baen has a free library where some of their books are free to download.

https://www.baen.com/allbooks/category/index/id/2012

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 20, 2021 08:31 AM (PiwSw)

59 No, but it sounds interesting.
Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:28 AM (ONvIw)

It is. Written in 1963, a lot of the plot has actually come to pass in this century

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 20, 2021 08:31 AM (oEn12)

60 "Rodomontade" - what a lovely, expressive $12 word! I shall have to use it, somewhere or other...
Yes, but I prefer gasconade. I wonder if it derives from the French opinion of Gascons as blowhards?
Also, it may be pervy to say so, but I think the young lady between the pages is very fetching. It's okay. She's older than she looks.
Finally, I finished Rick Atkinson's "The British Are Coming". It was outstanding, and if you're interested in the Revolutionary War era, it's a must read. You'd think that everything that could be said about it has been said, but a good author finds a way to make it new and insightful. Atkinson is such an author. The only negative is that it's the first book in a trilogy, and he says his last trilogy (WWII) took him 15 years to write. We'll just have to be patient to find out how it turns out.

Posted by: pep at June 20, 2021 08:32 AM (v16oJ)

61 Top O' the Mornin'! I have four daughters at home. My bride is always buying books that are girl-inspiring. For a change of pace, I have been reading some of them. Currently, I am reading "A Woman of No Importance" by Sonia Purnell. It is about an American woman, Virginia Hall, who served as a French Resistance leader (on behalf of the Brits). She was an amputee and completely overlooked. Pretty dang interesting.

Posted by: Rob at June 20, 2021 08:32 AM (ua+q5)

62 I have a number of collections published by Delphi on Kindle. They take public domain material, sometimes rare to find, and organize it along with critiques and biographical information. at 1.99 to 2.99, they are a bargain.

I just found out they have a similar approach to famous artists, in this case John Constable. It includes a good selection of his better known paintings with several detailed studies, the drawings he made as reference, which is of real interest to me, and biographical essays. For $2.99 it is a fantastic bargain and makes a wonderful introduction to an artist. I'm sure others in the series are in my future.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2021 08:33 AM (7EjX1)

63
It is. Written in 1963, a lot of the plot has actually come to pass in this century
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 20, 2021 08:31 AM (oEn12)

Thanks

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:33 AM (ONvIw)

64 So far today I've added 4 books to my wishlist on Amazon - I need to get off this thread and head to church. Happy Father's Day, Horde Dads!

Posted by: CarolinaGirl at June 20, 2021 08:34 AM (Kh9rg)

65 Greetings:
Finished "Nine Days in May" by Warren Wilkins this week. It's about the terrible battle our Fourth Infantry Division fought in the Viet Nam of 1967.

The actions occurred along the Cambodian border in the Central Highlands while our military and political leaders tolerated North Viet Nam's misuse of "sanctuary" rules.

Very up close and personal fighting in very difficult geography. One of the bits of advice I received before I arrived was do anything you can to stay out of the Fourth.

Posted by: 11B40 at June 20, 2021 08:34 AM (evgyj)

66 Didn't Jean Seberg become a nun ?
Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:29 AM (arJlL)

No way
Posted by: CN

Who am I thinking of ?

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:35 AM (arJlL)

67 Gascony was kind of the French equivalent of Texas. A very harsh province (reforestation has done a lot to change that) full of penniless noblemen. They developed a reputation as excellent soldiers . . . and incorrigible braggarts.

As I said, the French equivalent of Texas.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2021 08:35 AM (QZxDR)

68 Who am I thinking of ?
Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:35 AM (arJlL)

Dolores HArt from the Elvis movie.

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:35 AM (ONvIw)

69 Happy Father's Day. I am my father's son.

Finished Mystery of the Aleph: Mathematics, the Kabbalah and the Search for Infinity by Amir D. Aczel. I think the mystical Jews of the Kabbalah had it right: don't even fuck around with this because your dabbling in things our brains are too small for. Lots of otherwise brilliant people went insane trying to figure this out. And this is definitely something not to read when you're tranqued up after heart surgery. But I did it anyway since Aczel just talks about it in an overview way, but it still gives you a good idea of what those that have explored it have done. So it was a positive experience but a weird one.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 08:36 AM (g5I2H)

70 38 ... Thanks for the precis about Strobel. For 1.99 I'll get it to try.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2021 08:36 AM (7EjX1)

71 Dolores HArt from the Elvis movie.
Posted by: CN

You are ABSOLUTELY correct !

Thanks !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:36 AM (arJlL)

72 It seems lab research people have been flagrantly poor at handling research subjects for much longer then most appreciate.
Since the beginning of science. Writing things down carefully in a notebook is lots less fun than doing the research.

Posted by: pep at June 20, 2021 08:36 AM (v16oJ)

73 Zoltan: I also loved 'Unbroken" - This book took me awhile to get into, but now it's one of my favorite stories of all time - cause it's true! Just an amazing story and man that Ms. Hillenbrand was able to portray in such a stunning manner, since she was pretty much homebound during the writing of the book. In my understanding, she basically interviewed all the principals of the book by phone or video and never met them in person. Her telling of his reluctant attendance and conversion at a Billy Graham revival is one of the most moving and powerful passages I've ever read. Unfortunately, the Angelina Jolie movie totally bypassed that part of the story, which poignantly told about the stunning moment of when he decided to turn his life around. Just a truly amazing story and author.

Posted by: misslurk'ette at June 20, 2021 08:37 AM (GDpRb)

74 Captain Hate -

How ya feeling ?

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:38 AM (arJlL)

75 The West has a long, sordid history of abandoning
those who fought against the commies.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 20, 2021 08:27 AM (R/m4+)

---
The Poles absolutely got hung out to dry after saving the West in the summer of 1920. Any book I write on the topic will be focusing on the military aspects of the struggle, which would of course include things like faith, morale, organization, etc. An unhappy truth is that the Reds were filled with revolutionary ardor and an implacable will to power, and the Whites simply didn't have that unity of purpose or a competing vision.

The West was also exhausted by World War I. Starting a land war in Asia was not going to be a popular move. This is also why people who think we should have followed Patton's advice and attacked the USSR in 1945 are talking out of their hat. The US public was war-weary in 1945, sick of rationing and casualty lists.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 08:38 AM (llXky)

76 66 Didn't Jean Seberg become a nun ?
Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:29 AM (arJlL)

No way
Posted by: CN

Who am I thinking of ?
Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:35 AM (arJlL)

Sally Field? *shifty eyes*

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 20, 2021 08:39 AM (PiwSw)

77 Didn't Jean Seberg become a nun ?
Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:29 AM (arJlL)

You might be thinking of Dolores Hart, who left movies (she starred with Elvis in Loving You and King Creole) to become a contemplative Benedictine nun in 1970.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2021 08:40 AM (2JVJo)

78 Seberg is presently being beatified with a Kristin Stewart vehicle. Near as I can tell she was a dingbat undernourished pawn of Comintern and all of the festoonery that features actual Reds under your actual bed. Suicide (ed?).

Expect to hear a lot about her in the near future.

Posted by: klaftern at June 20, 2021 08:40 AM (r4sI4)

79 I was thinking about books which were popular when I was much younger and recall seeing a lot of RF Delderfield books like To Serve Them All My Days, and God is an Englishman. I wonder is they're worth revisiting. They were very popular, but I haven't heard about them in decades.

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:40 AM (ONvIw)

80 This is also why people who think we should have followed Patton's advice and attacked the USSR in 1945 are talking out of their hat. The US public was war-weary in 1945, sick of rationing and casualty lists.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

IIRC - in 1945, the Russians had 120 divisions and we had ..... TWELVE !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:40 AM (arJlL)

81 Greetings:

32 I need a good Texas History book.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 08:17 AM (yrol0

Try T.R. Fehrenbach especially his "Comanches"

Posted by: 11B40 at June 20, 2021 08:41 AM (evgyj)

82 "He's as influential to me as C. S. Lewis."

C.S. Lewis is my favorite. My freshman year in college, the Love of My Life and I fell prey to cultist. Very charismatic, and he hit attacked me on a spiritual level that I had no defense for. Of course, I was all of 17 and my "church" had been more of a country club than a house of worship.

But something about him terrified me, I think it was the first time I had ever sensed real evil. If you can imagine the moment of dread you would feel at finding out a loved one had died, that suffocating despair where time stops, that's what it felt like it. But only in his presence, and without any apparent reason for sensation to manifest.

I got us out of there (barely), but it woke me to the realization that I needed to train the spirit as well as the mind and body.

I knew C.S Lewis from my childhood (Narnia) and so I found his philosophies. I think I started Abolition of Man and bulked up from there LOL. I owe him so much.

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 08:41 AM (83lwH)

83
Expect to hear a lot about her in the near future.
Posted by: klaftern at June 20, 2021 08:40 AM (r4sI4)

That's too bad, but her life (careless and irresponsible as it was) is probably more interesting than her work. Her surviving kid was essentially raised by a nanny and didn't have much time with her or the husband Romain Gary

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:43 AM (ONvIw)

84 Happy Father's Day!

All you Erudite, Big Testicle Swingin' Daddios with your Egg-Ticklin' Spermatozoa What helps keep the Human Race goin'!

From Me, The Unofficial Ambassador of Fatherhood!

Posted by: naturalfake at June 20, 2021 08:43 AM (dWwl8)

85 A word for "cat lover" is ailurophile (ailouros, Greek for cat). And, of course, ailurophobe.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at June 20, 2021 08:44 AM (Mzdiz)

86 The only negative is that it's the first book in a trilogy, and he says his last trilogy (WWII) took him 15 years to write. We'll just have to be patient to find out how it turns out.

Oh, I hate that. Walter McDougall was supposed to write a trilogy about the history of America, but volume 2, Throes of Democracy, came out in 2009, with no sign of the third one 12 years later.

And Beatle historian Mark Lewishon's first volume in a projected trilogy, Tune In, came out in 2016, with no word on when volume 2 would be out.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2021 08:44 AM (2JVJo)

87 Who am I thinking of ?
Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:35 AM (arJlL)

Sally Field? *shifty eyes*
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper

Okay; that was funny !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:44 AM (arJlL)

88 During medical research we had to get consent from soldiers taking part in the study. If any medical discoveries breakthroughs happen......they don't get a dime.

Posted by: Beauchamp Brogan at June 20, 2021 08:45 AM (nwVxB)

89 Screwtape Letters were a godsend when I was young and rudderless.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 20, 2021 08:49 AM (ybIRR)

90 Do we get a Julyteenth, or no?

Posted by: Jimco Industries at June 20, 2021 08:49 AM (buTO7)

91 Speaking of creative writing, that QWERTY hate crime at the Ft. Lauderdale Pride March was a little over dramatic.

https://bit.ly/3xABKIZ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 20, 2021 08:49 AM (d9FiS)

92 I'm feeling good, JT.

I'm also reading a book Anthony Burgess recommended, Party Going by Henry Green. This is an odd book about a group of people stuck in London because of dense fog keeping them from going to a party elsewhere in the 30s. All the people are irritating fops and Green mashes the dialogue together so much it's hard to tell who's talking. As irritating as it sounds it has a strange attraction to just find out what happens to these clowns.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 08:49 AM (g5I2H)

93 Have 2 RF Delderfield Napoleonic titles I haven't looked at in over 20 years. They were some of my first books of such.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2021 08:49 AM (Cxk7w)

94 "The West has a long, sordid history of abandoning those who fought against the commies."

We did the same thing to Iraq. I know people think it was either an idealistic waste of blood and treasure, or some NeoCon interventionism... but there were good Iraqi men and women who risked their necks for us, and they're probably dead now, or worse.

All because Americans have the attention span of a gnat and got "tired" of seeing the war on television.

And now no one in the ME trusts us. And I can't blame them.

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 08:51 AM (83lwH)

95 93 Have 2 RF Delderfield Napoleonic titles I haven't looked at in over 20 years. They were some of my first books of such.
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2021 08:49 AM (Cxk7w)

I recall his work being huge in the 70s, but apart from the dramatization of To Serve Them All My Days, they seem pretty much forgotten.

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:51 AM (ONvIw)

96 Got through about 1/4 of Screwtape Letters, it's downloaded on my table so maybe will get back to them.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2021 08:51 AM (Cxk7w)

97 **cocks an ear**

The local classical station is playing Salieri's 26 Variations on 'The Follies of Spain.'. Interesting.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2021 08:51 AM (2JVJo)

98 My next book to read is The Adversaries: A Story of Boston and Bunker Hill, by Ned Ryun. Just arrived yesterday. He was on the Dark to Light podcast on RadioInfluence.com on Wednesday, and I was inspired to buy it.
I think it's a good preparation for girding our loins for the coming fight for liberty.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at June 20, 2021 08:51 AM (Mzdiz)

99 45 Unbroken: A World War II Story of Survival, Resilience, and Redemption by Laura Hillenbrand

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Much of the book is about God and religion but, of course, Hollywood couldn't have that so they left all that out of the movie.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 20, 2021 08:26 AM (d9FiS)

His conquering of his anger at the world and turning to God was really the point of the book, and it was COMPLETELY left out. Also, they cast a pale Irishman as the swarthy Zamperini.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 08:51 AM (Dc2NZ)

100 67 ... "Gascony was kind of the French equivalent of Texas. A very harsh province (reforestation has done a lot to change that) full of penniless noblemen. They developed a reputation as excellent soldiers . . . and incorrigible braggarts."

As I recall, D'Artagnan was a Gascon. I don't think it was meant as praise in Paris.

Posted by: JTB at June 20, 2021 08:52 AM (7EjX1)

101 Sorry I guess I should go take a Happy Pill or something.

Maybe more coffee will snap me out of The Melancholy, haha

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 08:52 AM (83lwH)

102 All because Americans have the attention span of a gnat and got "tired" of seeing the war on television.

And now no one in the ME trusts us. And I can't blame them.
Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 08:51 AM (83lwH)

Pretty much spot on. And I am sure many do not trust us, but on the other hand, we are still and will be for the foreseeable future the only hope for freedom and humanity. Such as it is. Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2021 08:54 AM (Irn0L)

103 "Got through about 1/4 of Screwtape Letters, it's downloaded on my table so maybe will get back to them."

This is your first read? I envy you.

I'm kinda sorta looking forward to memory loss in old age, so that all my favorite books will be new again LOL

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 08:54 AM (83lwH)

104 Oh, and happy Father's Day to all you dads out there, and all of you who are lucky enough to still have your fathers with you.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at June 20, 2021 08:54 AM (Mzdiz)

105 A lot of churches have been worthless as cultural marxism swept through. There is a megachurch I sometimes drive past with a huge BLM banner, bigger than the name of the place. An organization that would make Christianity illegal if it could, fuckwit.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 20, 2021 08:55 AM (ybIRR)

106 "we are still and will be for the foreseeable future the only hope for freedom and humanity"

I often wonder about who comes after us. We pretty much picked up Champion of Western Civ from the UK. Who is in line to take our place? India?

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 08:55 AM (83lwH)

107 The adapter that fits between artsy-fartsy crap and actual international intrigue is the sex and celebrity machine. I remember some stuff about Marylin Monroe.

Real live people end up fake and dead.

Posted by: klaftern at June 20, 2021 08:55 AM (r4sI4)

108 been reading Patricia Briggs earlier fantasy novels as ebooks via libby (library ebooks)
I have managed to get memberships in 3 PA libraries that have libby, so that is fun.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 20, 2021 08:56 AM (oEn12)

109 "we are still and will be for the foreseeable future the only hope for freedom and humanity"

I often wonder about who comes after us. We pretty much picked up Champion of Western Civ from the UK. Who is in line to take our place? India?
Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 08:55 AM (83lwH)

If anyone. Sometimes, in my more sullen moments, I think Freedom and Democracy has run it's course much like the dinasaurs

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2021 08:57 AM (Irn0L)

110 As I recall, D'Artagnan was a Gascon. I don't think it was meant as praise in Paris.
You are correct, sir!

Posted by: pep at June 20, 2021 08:57 AM (v16oJ)

111 This is also why people who think we should have
followed Patton's advice and attacked the USSR in 1945 are talking out
of their hat. The US public was war-weary in 1945, sick of rationing and
casualty lists.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

IIRC - in 1945, the Russians had 120 divisions and we had ..... TWELVE !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 08:40 AM

We had Nukes and they did not. They had just started working on them at the end of the war.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 20, 2021 08:57 AM (JUOKG)

112 Maybe more coffee will snap me out of The Melancholy, haha
Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 08:52 AM (83lwH)

I know the feeling. I'm trying to enjoy as much of the day as I can before the tsunami of depression comes in this afternoon and turns my day to shit.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2021 08:57 AM (2JVJo)

113 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 08:58 AM (Zz0t1)

114 A lot of churches have been worthless as cultural marxism swept through. There is a megachurch I sometimes drive past with a huge BLM banner, bigger than the name of the place. An organization that would make Christianity illegal if it could, fuckwit.
Posted by: BourbonChicken

Old and busted: self hating Jew

New and shiny: self hating Christian

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 20, 2021 08:58 AM (d9FiS)

115 The link for last week's WhoDis does NOT go to Matthew Maconnaghey, however you spell it.....

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 08:58 AM (Zz0t1)

116 I'm drawing to the end of the Joe Pickett mysteries. Sad! They are so good. I need to pull a "Misery"-style home invasion and force C.J. Box to write faster.

But lo!, what do I find in the library stacks by my fave John Ringo? "Gunpowder and Embers", and dig this blurb: "Thirty years ago, the world ended. Giant electrovoric ants and pterodons came through a rift in space-time, and millions of humans died. Rancher Chuck Gordon, accompanied by a warrior monk, a beautiful dragon tamer, a runaway cultist, and a mystic drunken lecher, will search for a key to reclaiming humanity's past -- and future." Epic trash!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 08:58 AM (Dc2NZ)

117 6 Will finish Rise and Fall of the Third Reich maybe tomorrow.
Finished The New Order chapter a few minutes ago.
It's always been on my reading list for decades, shame it took so long to get it.
Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2021 08:05 AM

That book has been on my shelf for decades as well. You're encouraging me to finally read it!

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 08:58 AM (qe5CM)

118 And Happy Father's Day to all you dads out there who AREN'T deadbeats. Those guys can just piss right off.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 08:59 AM (Zz0t1)

119 "Do we get a Julyteenth, or no?"

I think I'm going to be marking Jan 6th for a long time.

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 08:59 AM (83lwH)

120 Feb 1 2020 in FauxChis Inbox:

"The unusual features of the virus make up a really small part of the genome (<0.1%) so one has to look really closely at all the sequences to see that some of the features (potentially) look engineered," Andersen wrote in an email prior to the teleconference, adding that he and other scientists "all find the genome inconsistent with expectations from evolutionary theory."

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 08:59 AM (yrol0)

121 I often wonder about who comes after us. We pretty much picked up
Champion of Western Civ from the UK. Who is in line to take our place?
India?
We're sort of the Greece / Rome combo, less the brutality of the latter. Civilization was lucky to have that happen twice. I expect some rather serious regression if we fail. There is precedent.

Posted by: pep at June 20, 2021 08:59 AM (v16oJ)

122 Worked this week on two books, one on CD.

The audiobook was "Laughing Gas," a P.G. Wodehouse standalone, although the central character (and narrator) is a member of the Drones Club.

Reggie recently gained a title and is the ostensible head of the family, but that doesn't shelter him from an aunt's order that he go to Hollywood to break up the engagement of a dissolute cousin.

Reggie falls for an actress he meets on the journey and develops a toothache, which lands him in a dentist's office where he meets a child star. Two dentists share the office, and Reggie and the boy are put under at the same time. When they wake up, they've switched bodies.

Fine for the kid, who embarks on a revenge spree. Not for Reggie, who lives in a producer's mansion and is ordered about.

The other book is another Perry Mason mystery, "The Case of the Stuttering Bishop." It centers on a scheme with a phony heiress. I think I have this one taped out. In a PM book, focus on a background character.

Oddly, both of these books are from 1936, when my father was born. Yet the Wodehouse seems to be of its era, and the PM seems more current, references to running boards notwithstanding.

Posted by: Weak Geek (dad of three in their 20s) at June 20, 2021 09:00 AM (Om/di)

123 118 And Happy Father's Day to all you dads out there who AREN'T deadbeats. Those guys can just piss right off.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 08:59 AM (Zz0t1)

My old man treated my cousin like he was her daughter. Her father was as worthless cocksucker that has ever walked the earth.

With DNA we know who that father is. Go after their welfare, SS, insurance, paycheck, etc.

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 09:01 AM (yrol0)

124 I looked up who dis and I still don't know who she is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 20, 2021 09:01 AM (KZzsI)

125 Let's see... my rec for Father's Day...

The Last Lion Vol 2, by William Manchester

Being a milblog(?) I expect most of you have aleady devoured it, but if you havent, it's one of the great ones. I rank it next to A Stillness At Appomattox.

You really get a sense of the hopelessness and despair that swept the West. And that if not for Churchill rallying the UK, all would have been lost. It was a miracle.

I don't think there was any other man positioned at the time who could have pulled us through all that.

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:04 AM (83lwH)

126 So, Pixy sets a character maximum? That would explain why my phone stopped in the middle of a word.

Well, I wasn't a copy editor for nothing ... although the pay seemed like it at times.

Posted by: Weak Geek (dad of three in their 20s) at June 20, 2021 09:04 AM (Om/di)

127 IIRC - in 1945, the Russians had 120 divisions and we had ..... TWELVE !
I'm not sure where that number comes from, but it seems unlikely given that both countries were totally mobilized and had roughly equivalent populations. A quick Google says we formed 91 divisions in the war. Many were in the Pacific Theater, but that could have been an advantage. Also, we had the Marines, and a far more powerful Navy and Air Force. We also hadn't lost 6M men to the Nazis.

I'm not endorsing Patton's assertion, just noting that the numbers you cited seem a bit unrealistic.

Posted by: pep at June 20, 2021 09:04 AM (v16oJ)

128 Fauchley cost us a Trillion dollars. Think about that. Jerk gets on my nerves.

Posted by: klaftern at June 20, 2021 09:05 AM (r4sI4)

129 That's a beautiful library.

Posted by: Blacksheep at June 20, 2021 09:05 AM (6mvRv)

130 The Last Lion
Being a milblog(?) I expect most of you have aleady devoured it, but if you havent, it's one of the great ones. I rank it next to A Stillness At Appomattox.

You really get a sense of the hopelessness and despair that swept the West. And that if not for Churchill rallying the UK, all would have been lost. It was a miracle.

I don't think there was any other man positioned at the time who could have pulled us through all that.
Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:04 AM (83lwH)

100% agree.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2021 09:05 AM (Irn0L)

131 Happy Sperm Providing Day everyone.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 20, 2021 09:05 AM (e2Xx1)

132 Happy Father's Day to all Moron dads!

To all Horde males, call or visit your father today if you still have him.

Posted by: Weak Geek (dad of three in their 20s) at June 20, 2021 09:05 AM (Om/di)

133 Greetings:

97 The local classical station is playing Salieri's 26 Variations on 'The Follies of Spain.'. Interesting.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2021 08:51 AM (2JVJo)

Down here in the Frisco Bay Area, the local Classical station has gone full progressive with dainty little progressive petit-fours inserted between every other piece they play. Oppressed female and black composers and players being dig out from somewhere. Step back Mr. Sibelious !!!

Posted by: 11B40 at June 20, 2021 09:06 AM (evgyj)

134 All because Americans have the attention span of a gnat and got "tired" of seeing the war on television.

And now no one in the ME trusts us. And I can't blame them.
Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 08:51 AM (83lwH)

It might have helped if GWB did his fucking job and kept the public aware of progress in the war, even if the news wasn't good at the time.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:06 AM (g5I2H)

135 111 We had Nukes and they did not. They had just started working on them at the end of the war.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 20, 2021 08:57 AM (JUOKG)

They had help from the Rosenbergs.

Posted by: Vic at June 20, 2021 09:07 AM (mpXpK)

136
My old man treated my cousin like he was her daughter. Her father was as worthless cocksucker that has ever walked the earth.

With DNA we know who that father is. Go after their welfare, SS, insurance, paycheck, etc.
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 09:01 AM (yrol0)

My wife's mother died from a brain aneurysm when my wife was 22 months old. Her father took all the SS money for 17 years and my wife barely saw any of it. He would always tell her to ask her grandfather when she needed something, clothes, first car........

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:07 AM (Zz0t1)

137 47 I'm giving my husband four Leon Uris books and a family lunch for Fathers Day. Long ago he said he's like to read more Uris when he had the time. He has the time.
Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:27 AM

I read Trinity a few years ago. Loved it!

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 09:07 AM (qe5CM)

138 I seen the movie 'A Bridge Too Far' a few times on TV. Just wondering if I should get the book itself because I assume the movie leaves out some details. Any suggestions from the Horde would be helpful.

Posted by: dantesed at June 20, 2021 09:07 AM (88xKn)

139 We won the war with Iraq in about 17 nanoseconds. We lost the bullshit nation building part that none of the geniuses in charge, you know, had a plan for.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 20, 2021 09:08 AM (e2Xx1)

140 67 Gascony was kind of the French equivalent of Texas. A very harsh province (reforestation has done a lot to change that) full of penniless noblemen. They developed a reputation as excellent soldiers . . . and incorrigible braggarts.

As I said, the French equivalent of Texas.
Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2021 08:35 AM (QZxDR)

That's where D'Artagnan hailed from. I always thought it was considered rude and uncultured, the province of country bumpkins, by the oh so elite Parisians.

Kind of like "fly-over country" today.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 09:08 AM (1NQvT)

141 Happy Sperm Providing Day everyone.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 20, 2021 09:05 AM (e2Xx1)

My mother called my dad "sperm donor" at Christmas Dinner at my brother's in-laws house one year. Good times......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:08 AM (Zz0t1)

142 Is anyone familiar with Lee Strobel? One of his books is on the Kindle daily deals today: The Case For A Creator.

I like Lee Strobel all right, he does a good job collecting and presenting arguments and information not commonly known. There is a movie about his life called The Case for Christ. He was a reporter in Chicago in the 70s or 80s who wrote several breaking big stories, and was a huge atheist skeptic. His wife became a Christian and he couldn't stand it. I can't remember who but someone challenged him to research Jesus like it was a news story and he dived into it.

He ended up becoming a Christian because the research made Christianity unavoidable. His first book is The Case for Christ, the result of that research.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 20, 2021 09:08 AM (KZzsI)

143 What is the point of searching for infinity by its very nature its an incalculable number.

Posted by: Alien covenant was worse at June 20, 2021 09:09 AM (hMlTh)

144 at the BEE:

Woke Public School Hangs Up Inspirational You Cant Do It! Poster For Black Students

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 09:09 AM (yrol0)

145 Great chess thread yesterday, Mr. Oregon Muse. I didn't have the opportunity to mention that until now.

Posted by: Midwesterner's husband at June 20, 2021 09:09 AM (+sn0n)

146 Paramount had the 2 Godfathers ( there is no 3rd in my universe) yesterday. Complete with PSAs about Juneteenth and how ghey people are suffering and need mental health care. Which I thought was funny as fuck.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 20, 2021 09:10 AM (e2Xx1)

147 "I expect some rather serious regression if we fail. There is precedent."

Yah all these Lefties think Civ is easy. But they are just throwing rocks from the sidelines. They won't be able to CREATE anything to take it's place. They think water comes from the faucet.

I forget the interview, but I remember a story about an activist turned CongressCritter (AOC?) being lectured that she wasn't sent to DC to criticize as an activist, she was sent there to solve problems as a leader.

Maybe we do need another Dark Age so we don't forget how special this Republic was. That's conservatisms fault, it's supposed to preserve and teach the lessons of history so we don't have to repeat them again. It has failed.

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:10 AM (83lwH)

148 47 I'm giving my husband four Leon Uris books and a family lunch for Fathers Day. Long ago he said he's like to read more Uris when he had the time. He has the time.

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 08:27 AM

I read Trinity a few years ago. Loved it!
Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 09:07 AM (qe5CM)

Mila 18, about the Warsaw Uprising, where a starving band of Jews held out for a month against everything the Germans threw at them, is also a very good book.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 09:11 AM (1NQvT)

149 What is the point of searching for infinity by its very nature its an incalculable number.
Posted by: Alien covenant was worse at June 20, 2021 09:09 AM (hMlTh)

People like challenges.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:11 AM (g5I2H)

150 OK, folks, I think I will go find something fun to do to keep my depression at bay for as long as possible.

Hope you all have a lovely day.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2021 09:12 AM (2JVJo)

151 Good Morning Horde! Happy Fathers Day to all the Big Daddy's out there.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 20, 2021 09:12 AM (jvt6t)

152 It might have helped if GWB did his fucking job and kept the public aware of progress in the war, even if the news wasn't good at the time.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:06 AM (g5I2H)

I knew after the Tora Bora fiasco that W wasn't serious about waging war. It was going to be another meat grinder.

Posted by: Justsayin' at June 20, 2021 09:12 AM (Fs5vw)

153 134 All because Americans have the attention span of a gnat and got "tired" of seeing the war on television.

And now no one in the ME trusts us. And I can't blame them.

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 08:51 AM (83lwH)

It might have helped if GWB did his fucking job and kept the public
aware of progress in the war, even if the news wasn't good at the time.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:06 AM (g5I2H)

The MFM broadcasting lie after lie, and the war was all but completely won when congress pulled the plug. And still when were were out and aiding the South with money and material they were still holding off the North. My ship was on the way over there to deliver a squadron of A-6's and we had to turn around and take them back to HI.

Posted by: Vic at June 20, 2021 09:13 AM (mpXpK)

154 I'm currently reading Dangers of the Trail in 1865: A Narrative of Actual Events. Its about a young man who set out from Iowa to Oregon because he didn't care for Iowa's climate.

I searched on Amazon for free old ebooks, out of copyright, and ended up with a dozen or so fun and interesting ones, mostly about the American frontier.

Also slowly reading Irrational Man: A Study in Existential Philosophy by William Barrett. This is one of the books I bought for a Philosophy class in college wayyy back in 1984 and never read. Its a fairly light look at the history and impact of existentialism on worldviews and culture, and the potential damage it will cause. Written in 1958, its highly regarded but or less was completely ignored.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 20, 2021 09:13 AM (KZzsI)

155 Last book I read was The Reaper by Nicholas Irving about his life as a US Sniper.

The final chapter about how they ambushed a jihadi team in the middle of the night while they were buttfucking each other was, interesting.....

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:14 AM (Zz0t1)

156 What is the point of searching for infinity by its very nature its an incalculable number.
Posted by: Alien covenant was worse at June 20, 2021 09:09 AM

It's the journey, not the destination.

Posted by: Midwesterner's husband at June 20, 2021 09:14 AM (+sn0n)

157
I seen the movie 'A Bridge Too Far' a few times on TV. Just wondering
if I should get the book itself because I assume the movie leaves out
some details. Any suggestions from the Horde would be helpful.

Posted by: dantesed at June 20, 2021 09:07 AM (88xKn)

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The book is excellent. Highly recommend.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:14 AM (llXky)

158 Happy Father's Day to all the fatherly 'rons! May you be blessed with much bacon and tasty hobo meat on this day.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&V at June 20, 2021 09:14 AM (HKEfo)

159 150 OK, folks, I think I will go find something fun to do to keep my depression at bay for as long as possible.

Hope you all have a lovely day.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at June 20, 2021 09:12 AM (2JVJo)

Whenever I feel contemplative or depressed, I think back to what me dear sweet pappy used to say.

"Son, grab a bottle of cheap whiskey and go to the bordello."

Such a wise man.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 20, 2021 09:14 AM (jvt6t)

160
I knew after the Tora Bora fiasco that W wasn't serious about waging war. It was going to be another meat grinder.
Posted by: Justsay

It's why the military should be allowed to do it's job and congress should stay the fuck out of it.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:14 AM (Zz0t1)

161 I seen the movie 'A Bridge Too Far' a few times on TV. Just wondering if I should get the book itself because I assume the movie leaves out some details. Any suggestions from the Horde would be helpful.
Posted by: dantesed

I like Cornelius Ryan's popular histories, The Longest Day, The Last Battle etc.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 20, 2021 09:15 AM (d9FiS)

162 The final chapter about how they ambushed a jihadi team in the middle of the night while they were buttfucking each other was, interesting.....
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:14 AM

Where le petit mort meets le gran mort?

Posted by: Midwesterner's husband at June 20, 2021 09:16 AM (+sn0n)

163 I'm not endorsing Patton's assertion, just noting that the numbers you cited seem a bit unrealistic.

Posted by: pep at June 20, 2021 09:04 AM (v16oJ)

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The Russians would have been on the strategic defensive and our supply lines would have been ludicrously long. For them, just sitting there gives them victory.

With Germany and Japan defeated, how does one rally a war-weary nation to an even greater effort?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:16 AM (llXky)

164 I found an old atlas of my father's from 1951 that covers Indonesia. It's in Indonesian (Javanese?) and it's fun to see the original names of places whence many have returned: Sulawesi (Celebes), Serawak/Kalimantan (Borneo), Irian Barat/Irian Jaya (now back to Papua New Guinea).

In the back they have a Peoples of the World map and North America, Australia, and Europe have a standard white guy in suit and fedora clutching a newspaper standing in front of sky scrapers for "European".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 09:17 AM (Dc2NZ)

165 Whenever I feel contemplative or depressed, I think back to what me dear sweet pappy used to say.

"Son, grab a bottle of cheap whiskey and go to the bordello."

Such a wise man.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 20, 2021 09:14 AM (jvt6t)

You also probably wasted your inheritance on schooling and housing!

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 09:17 AM (yrol0)

166 115 The link for last week's WhoDis does NOT go to Matthew Maconnaghey, however you spell it.....

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 08:58 AM (Zz0t1)

What? Of course it does! You must be hallucinating.

Check it again.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 09:17 AM (1NQvT)

167 Got a chance to meet Chris Plante in person yesterday.
Radio talk show host. Cool guy.

Posted by: Miley the Cyrene at June 20, 2021 09:17 AM (jYQlA)

168 WTFO ITS ALL GONE

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 09:17 AM (yrol0)

169 "We won the war with Iraq in about 17 nanoseconds. We lost the bullshit nation building part that none of the geniuses in charge, you know, had a plan for."

We didn't expect to win the war in 17 nanoseconds. The geniuses in charge were busy trying to make the war short and decisive, and with as few casualties as possible.

I don't think Brett Favre was planning his itinerary for Disney World in the 1st Quarter of the Superbowl.

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:17 AM (83lwH)

170 Welcome back......

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:18 AM (Zz0t1)

171 whew, it's back

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 09:18 AM (ONvIw)

172 It's back now.

Posted by: Vic at June 20, 2021 09:18 AM (mpXpK)

173 What the hell, OM!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 09:18 AM (Dc2NZ)

174 168 WTFO ITS ALL GONE
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 09:17 AM (yrol0)

Just a glitch in the Matrix. Pay it no mind.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 09:18 AM (1NQvT)

175 You also probably wasted your inheritance on schooling and housing!
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 09:17 AM (yrol0)

Livin' on a prayer!! FTW!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 20, 2021 09:19 AM (jvt6t)

176
What? Of course it does! You must be hallucinating.

Check it again.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 09:17 AM (1NQvT)

Of course it does.....I don't know what I was ~~drinking~~ thinking.

And is he pulling a LeBitch James? Opening the book to the first page and pretending to read?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:19 AM (Zz0t1)

177 173 What the hell, OM!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 09:18 AM (Dc2NZ)

Oh, I'm pretty sure I saw that book in your library.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 09:19 AM (1NQvT)

178 Just a glitch in the Matrix. Pay it no mind.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 09:18 AM (1NQvT)

Whew. Glad I said bordello instead of midget pron.....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 20, 2021 09:20 AM (jvt6t)

179 I am reading a small pile of books by Joseph C. Lincoln. All set on Cape Cod, around 1900. Tons of colorful language, including some language that would get "cancelled" without delay in these times. Cap'n Eri, The Postmaster and Shavings are the three I've read this week, couple more to go before I head back to NC. Recommended mainly for people with a fondness for the Cape, or really any seaside community of the era.

Posted by: Lincolntf at June 20, 2021 09:20 AM (l14X/)

180 "Son, grab a bottle of cheap whiskey and go to the bordello."

Heh.

"In fact you could throw out the ginger root and citrus peel and still be well on your way"

https://tinyurl.com/9sbfsy9f

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:20 AM (83lwH)

181 Anyway, be back later to read. Lunch isn't going to make itself!

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 09:20 AM (ONvIw)

182 I'm guessing Matthew Mcconaughey is a reader, but that might just be because I like him as an actor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 20, 2021 09:20 AM (KZzsI)

183 We didn't expect to win the war in 17 nanoseconds.
The geniuses in charge were busy trying to make the war short and
decisive, and with as few casualties as possible.

I don't think Brett Favre was planning his itinerary for Disney World in the 1st Quarter of the Superbowl.

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:17 AM (83lwH)

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False comparison. You invade a country, you better have a plan for what happens after you win. With a superbowl, you can party or you can go home and take a nap. Either way, you won't end up losing the game by fumbling the victory party - which is what we did in Iraq.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:20 AM (llXky)

184 The Russians would have been on the strategic defensive and our supply
lines would have been ludicrously long. For them, just sitting there
gives them victory.

With Germany and Japan defeated, how does one rally a war-weary nation to an even greater effort?
Agreed. Again, I'm not endorsing what Patton said, just noting that the cited numbers aren't realistic.

Posted by: pep at June 20, 2021 09:21 AM (v16oJ)

185 Oh, I'm pretty sure I saw that book in your library.
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How?! I had it tucked behind "Bisexual Buckaroos: Seven Bi Group Encounters in the Tingleverse".

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 09:22 AM (Dc2NZ)

186 Good morning.

Finally finished all 1000 pages of The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson. It was so worth it. The book is brilliant. Someone here on the blog said the last 100 pages would blow me away and yes, that is true as I ended up reading well into the morning hours to get to the finish.
I'm not going to try and describe the story as it would be impossible in a few words. All I can say is it felt like I was watching a movie. The world Sanderson creates is so vivid, I could see it and his characters are interesting and so true to the world he creates, I was fascinated. I also liked how he didn't jump from storyline to story line frequently which what I hated about RR Martin.
Although there are multiple books in this series, there is a very satisfactory ending which I also liked.
Highly recommended but be prepared. You'll want to read every one of the 1000 pages.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at June 20, 2021 09:22 AM (sd8p8)

187 How?! I had it tucked behind "Bisexual Buckaroos: Seven Bi Group Encounters in the Tingleverse".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 09:22 AM

Damn. Just in time for Pride Month(Year), whatevs...

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 20, 2021 09:22 AM (jvt6t)

188 I don't think we should have invaded Russia, just chased them back to their borders and protected places like Poland and Romania.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 20, 2021 09:23 AM (KZzsI)

189 125- Being a milblog(?) I expect most of you have aleady devoured it, but if you havent, it's one of the great ones. I rank it next to A Stillness At Appomattox.
Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:04 AM

Great choice. I bought it at a vintage shop last year. I loved it so much that, after reading it, I went back and was able to get the other two in the trilogy, which are still in my reading pile. I paid less than ten bucks for all three.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 09:23 AM (qe5CM)

190 THEYRE BACK

Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 09:23 AM (yrol0)

191 Why would a crab need a knife if he got those claws?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2021 09:24 AM (vuisn)

192 190 THEYRE BACK
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 09:23 AM (yrol0)

...and They are pissed!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 20, 2021 09:24 AM (jvt6t)

193 THEYRE BACK
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 20, 2021 09:23 AM (yrol0)

Stay away from the TV, then.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:24 AM (Zz0t1)

194 Why would a crab need a knife if he got those claws?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2021 09:24 AM (vuisn)

Use a knife to carve a gun out of a bar of soap. But, if you've got a knife, who needs a soap gun?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:25 AM (Zz0t1)

195 I don't think we should have invaded Russia, just
chased them back to their borders and protected places like Poland and
Romania.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 20, 2021 09:23 AM (KZzsI)

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Which borders? None of those were exactly set in stone. Curzon Line or 1921 line? Does Romania get to keep Bessarabia? What about the Baltics?

And the supply chain leading from Antwerp to Warsaw through a Germany with no bridges or railways would have been...challenging.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:25 AM (llXky)

196 I tried godel beck escher, three times

Posted by: Alien covenant was worse at June 20, 2021 09:25 AM (hMlTh)

197 Crab with a knife

https://youtu.be/IjY260RQkrg

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 20, 2021 09:26 AM (KZzsI)

198 The Russians would have been on the strategic defensive and our supply lines would have been ludicrously long. For them, just sitting there gives them victory.

With Germany and Japan defeated, how does one rally a war-weary nation to an even greater effort?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:16 AM (llXky)

You forget that, at the time, we were the only nation that had The Bomb and people willing to use it. Obliterate Moscow and the industrial centers further east and I bet the Russkies would have come to the table. At least willing to give up Poland and the rest of Eastern Europe.

Posted by: Justsayin' at June 20, 2021 09:26 AM (Fs5vw)

199 With Germany and Japan defeated, how does one rally a war-weary nation to an even greater effort?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:16 AM (llXky)

And THAT is the most important point.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2021 09:28 AM (Irn0L)

200 @63

I think Virginia Hall was famous for her willingness to stay out of the limelight, too. Even later in life, she never spoke about her missions.

Contrast with the "seal who killed Bin Laden" (and there have been a few) who go on all the talk shows. That's the main thing that makes me think he was never killed.

Posted by: artemis at June 20, 2021 09:28 AM (AwPyG)

201 Crab knife fighting is just a natural and ordinary part of growing up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 20, 2021 09:28 AM (d9FiS)

202 Crab with a knife
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Don' fuck wit' Joey Crabs! *jab jab*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 09:28 AM (Dc2NZ)

203 You forget that, at the time, we were the only
nation that had The Bomb and people willing to use it. Obliterate
Moscow and the industrial centers further east and I bet the Russkies
would have come to the table. At least willing to give up Poland and
the rest of Eastern Europe.

Posted by: Justsayin' at June 20, 2021 09:26 AM (Fs5vw)

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Were we? Would Congress have voted to declare war? On what grounds?

Tell me how you pivot from giving Stalin tanks, guns and trucks and then blow them up.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:28 AM (llXky)

204 Don' fuck wit' Joey Crabs! *jab jab*
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 09:28 AM

That Crab Pop was a bad dude.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 20, 2021 09:29 AM (jvt6t)

205 "fumbling the victory party"

Like I said, the Left thinks Civilization is easy, because their experience consists of throwing rocks from the sidelines. Monday Morning Historians.

"You invade a country, you better have a plan for what happens after you win"

We did. But what would you have done differently? What would you have foreseen in the Middle East that the professionals who have spent their lives studying it missed?

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:30 AM (83lwH)

206 Also: what table would the Soviets be coming to? Are we liberating Eastern Europe or destroying the Soviet Union?

What, exactly is the war aim of our Newer Cooler World War II?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:30 AM (llXky)

207 I just finished Daniel Humphreys' latest Paxton Locke novel, The Sacred Radiance. Wow! It's a good thing the next novel is due out soon, because this one is a non-stop rollercoaster that ends in a huge cliffhanger. If you liked Fade, you'll love this one. The series only continues to get better.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at June 20, 2021 09:30 AM (8k7x2)

208 You forget that, at the time, we were the only
nation that had The Bomb and people willing to use it. Obliterate
Moscow and the industrial centers further east and I bet the Russkies
would have come to the table. At least willing to give up Poland and
the rest of Eastern Europe.

Posted by: Justsayin' at June 20, 2021 09:26 AM

Yep, we were cranking out multiple Nukes every month at that point. It would not have taken long to destroy Russia's major manufacturing centers. And with B-29's nothing was out of range.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 20, 2021 09:30 AM (JUOKG)

209 Here's a video of a crab relaxing with a ciggie after a good stabbing:

https://tinyurl.com/ysyu3x97

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 09:30 AM (Dc2NZ)

210 I understand being war weary and people just want peace, which is what the commies used to their advantage.

In 1945, old Joe should have been told to withdraw to the pre-1939 borders or Moscow goes boom. Same with the Red Chinese. As soon as their troops crossed the Yalu, boom goes Peking.

Hanoi should have been wiped off the map in 1965 and their "leaders" and their families targeted which would have ended their nonsense.

But our "leaders" were afraid of a wider war in Korea and Vietnam, as well as fellow commie travelers in our own government at the time working for the Soviet cause.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 20, 2021 09:32 AM (R/m4+)

211 Greetings:

183 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:20 AM (llXky)

Usually, in the first week of Infantry School, one learns the difference between an "assault" and a "raid".

In an assault, you go somewhere, kill some people, break somethings, and stay. In a raid, formerly known as a "punitive expedition", you go somewhere, kill some people, break somethings, and leave.

Apparently, our military-industrial complex abhors the coitus interruptus approach.

Posted by: 11B40 at June 20, 2021 09:32 AM (evgyj)

212 Yep, we were cranking out multiple Nukes every month at that point. It would not have taken long to destroy Russia's major manufacturing centers. And with B-29's nothing was out of range.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 20, 2021 09:30 AM (JUOKG)

Yeah but there was NO stomach either in the population or in the leadership of America at that time for that kind of action. The war was over in their minds, for better or for worse.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2021 09:33 AM (Irn0L)

213 I spend many long hours in that library; the stacks are a particularly peaceful place to study. But none of us could ever agree on how to pronounce it:
su-ZAH-low or SUE-za- low.

Posted by: LASue at June 20, 2021 09:33 AM (Ed8Zd)

214 a crab relaxing with a ciggie

Tobacco is a gateway drug to Old Bay.

Posted by: Miley the Cyrene at June 20, 2021 09:34 AM (jYQlA)

215 "Tell me how you pivot from giving Stalin tanks, guns and trucks and then blow them up."

It's the usual thing where there's an alliance until there isn't one, anymore.

See: Spain and Napoleon.

Posted by: artemis at June 20, 2021 09:34 AM (AwPyG)

216 Yeah but there was NO stomach either in the
population or in the leadership of America at that time for that kind of
action. The war was over in their minds, for better or for worse.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2021 09:33 AM

Didn't say we would do it, just pointing out that we could do it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 20, 2021 09:34 AM (JUOKG)

217 a crab relaxing with a ciggie

Tobacco is a gateway drug to Old Bay.
Posted by: Miley the Cyrene at June 20, 2021 09:34 AM (jYQlA)

If you eat a crab after it's smoked a cig, do you get a nicotine buzz?

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:35 AM (Zz0t1)

218 Why would a crab need a knife if he got those claws?

Posted by: Dr. Varno at June 20, 2021 09:24 AM (vuisn)

I don't think a blue crab could take a finger off...but I've seen one cut a fish in half.

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2021 09:35 AM (AwYPR)

219
Thanks to everyone who responded to my inquiry about recommendations for learning to understand and speak Greek last week. At the moment I am using Duolingo, but I likely will augment it with another tool or system.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at June 20, 2021 09:35 AM (+2sc/)

220 We did. But what would you have done differently?
What would you have foreseen in the Middle East that the professionals
who have spent their lives studying it missed?

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:30 AM (83lwH)

---
We had no plan and it was obvious at the time. No preparations were made for an insurgency, and there was a mad scramble for light infantry when it materialized. Our convoys were sitting ducks.

The plan we should have used was to put a strongman in charge, give him some guns and leave. The message would have been simple: piss of the US, and we take you out. Instead we tried to remake it into Vermont.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:36 AM (llXky)

221 I hate to say it but I read nothing last week except a couple of articles from the latest edition of Voyageur (a local history magazine about Northeast Wisconsin). But I've been moving and that sucked up all my time. It will probably ruin next week as well.

Posted by: who knew at June 20, 2021 09:36 AM (4I7VG)

222 I spend many long hours in that library; the stacks are a particularly peaceful place to study. But none of us could ever agree on how to pronounce it:
su-ZAH-low or SUE-za- low.

Posted by: LASue at June 20, 2021 09:33 AM (Ed8Zd)

My high school didn't have an extensive library, being a small town, so we would occasionally get field trips to the library at TWU in Denton. I always enjoyed that. Where it's not as elaborate as the library above, I always enjoyed going there.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:36 AM (Zz0t1)

223 199 With Germany and Japan defeated, how does one rally a war-weary nation to an even greater effort?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:16 AM (llXky)

And THAT is the most important point.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2021 09:28 AM (Irn0L)

Patton was right, at the wrong time.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 09:37 AM (CUWNn)

224
Were we? Would Congress have voted to declare war? On what grounds?

Tell me how you pivot from giving Stalin tanks, guns and trucks and then blow them up.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:28 AM (llXky)

Back then people knew the destructiveness of communism and what a monster Stalin was. My parents and their friends talked about it. My dad, a veteran of the Philippines, would have backed an atomic war against Stalin. Nobody that I knew through my parents would have blinked an eye into turning a communist country to glass.

Posted by: Justsayin' at June 20, 2021 09:37 AM (Fs5vw)

225 Instead we tried to remake it into Vermont.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:36 AM (llXky)

Maple Syrup and plaid shirts grow in the desert?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2021 09:37 AM (Irn0L)

226
Maple Syrup and plaid shirts grow in the desert?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2021 09:37 AM (Irn0L)

SHIT! Don't tell CBD.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 09:38 AM (Zz0t1)

227 It's the usual thing where there's an alliance until there isn't one, anymore.

See: Spain and Napoleon.

Posted by: artemis at June 20, 2021 09:34 AM (AwPyG)

---
That's a lot easier to do when ruled by absolute monarchs.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:38 AM (llXky)

228 "In an assault, you go somewhere, kill some people, break somethings, and stay. In a raid, formerly known as a 'punitive expedition', you go somewhere, kill some people, break somethings, and leave."

The intent was to stay and transform Iraq the way we did Germany and Japan.

"...there is nevertheless a widespread [Western] perception that there are significant differences between the advanced Western world and the rest, notably the peoples of Islam, and that these latter are in some ways different, with the tacit assumption that they are inferior. The most flagrant violations of civil rights, political freedom, and even human decency are disregarded or glossed over, and crimes against humanity, which in a European or American country would evoke a storm of outrage, are seen as normal and even acceptable.

...The underlying assumption in all this is that these people are incapable of running a democratic society and have neither concern nor capacity for human decency."

The Crisis of Islam, Bernard Lewis, p104

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:40 AM (83lwH)

229 Time to go to Mass! Have a happy Fathers Day everyone!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:41 AM (llXky)

230 Now I know where the name for the Gasconade River comes from. Been meaning to look that one up.
Posted by: klaftern at June 20, 2021 08:05 AM (r4sI4)

Squeeze the juice of three Gascones, add to two pints of of water, one cup of sugar, and stir. If you use ice, remember that it will dilute your gasconade as it melts.

For extra flavor you can add strawberries, or basil

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2021 09:41 AM (ySM85)

231 I thought Jean Seberg was Mia Farrow.
Which reminds me of 2. things-

Allen v. Farrow on HBO plus is really interesting. If you already hate Woody Allen, watching this may induce a stroke.

And on the topic of books, I just started reading Malachi Martin's Hostage to the Devil. I stayed up late last night; it was tough to put down. Its about several exorcisms in the 60-70s.
Even though Martin died in the 90s, his observations about the cultural rot that had already taken hold in our country (not sure if satan causes or just takes advantage of it) makes it extremely relevant and timely. Theres even foreshadowing the gender fluidity/LGFBYSW "movement."

Posted by: LASue at June 20, 2021 09:44 AM (Ed8Zd)

232 I've gotten more stabby over the years, crabs are a bad influence.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 20, 2021 09:44 AM (ybIRR)

233
...The underlying assumption in all this is that these people are incapable of running a democratic society and have neither concern nor capacity for human decency."

The Crisis of Islam, Bernard Lewis, p104
Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:40 AM (83lwH)

That's because islam is just another name for dictatorship. It mentions a god just enough to be be mistaken as a religion.

Posted by: Justsayin' at June 20, 2021 09:44 AM (Fs5vw)

234 JT, I'm flattered you think I can read. Hope all is well. Heidi says Hi JT! Hello all. Back to lurking.

Posted by: All words matter at June 20, 2021 09:45 AM (FsXyN)

235 I saw The Three Gascones open for Diana Krall in Philly in 2014. They were pretty good.

Posted by: Miley the Cyrene at June 20, 2021 09:47 AM (jYQlA)

236 Back from a constitutional with the lively and athletic Mrs naturalfake, wherein I dispensed much Good Will as THE Unofficial Ambassador of Fatherhood.

Posted by: naturalfake - THE Unofficial Ambassador of Fatherhood at June 20, 2021 09:49 AM (dWwl8)

237 osted by: Justsayin' at June 20, 2021 09:44 AM (Fs5vw)

is this the same troll that was splattering the n... and the c... words all over just a few forgettable days ago ? the one everybody was yelling about ?

Posted by: runner at June 20, 2021 09:50 AM (V13WU)

238 Rereading Jasper Fforde's Nursery Crime books. I like them better than the Thursday Next books.

I woke up and checked the French GP just as the update popped up that Max won! Red Bull got their strategy right with the two-stopper. I might actually pay for the F1 app so I can watch races if they are going to keep this up.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at June 20, 2021 09:51 AM (8548M)

239 Not a book, but, being from Ohio, I wondered what happened with the Piketon murder. I happened on a podcast that went through the entire case. One family in Pike County Ohio murdered another family in Pike County, over custody of a child. It really is a fascinating case. They weren't just hill folk killing each other over drugs and the murder family was very sophisticated in their method of stalking them. They shot 8 family members in three houses and no one heard anything. And they left the children alive.. They were eventually arrested after two years and the son just pled guilty and is going to testify against his family. Its divided the town and the twists and turns as law enforcement find new evidence is fascinating. I have looked for a book but no luck. It would make a great movie, if Hollywood were into great movies.

Posted by: Megthered at June 20, 2021 09:52 AM (Utnwo)

240 I'm also reading a book Anthony Burgess recommended, Party Going by Henry Green. This is an odd book about a group of people stuck in London because of dense fog keeping them from going to a party elsewhere in the 30s. All the people are irritating fops and Green mashes the dialogue together so much it's hard to tell who's talking. As irritating as it sounds it has a strange attraction to just find out what happens to these clowns.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 08:49 AM (g5I2H)

I loved "Party Going". After PG, i read more of his books. They weren't all as good as PG, though some were.

I think Henry Green is a sort of genius. He can write what appear to be very simple stories, and without telling you anything, still let's you see and feel and understand everything. A singular talent.

Posted by: naturalfake - THE Unofficial Ambassador of Fatherhood at June 20, 2021 09:54 AM (dWwl8)

241 With Germany and Japan defeated, how does one rally a war-weary nation to an even greater effort?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:16 AM (llXky)

And THAT is the most important point.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 20, 2021 09:28 AM (Irn0L)

Patton was right, at the wrong time.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 09:37 AM (CUWNn)

Yalta - y'all remember "post-war reorganization" was agreed on, plus them being allies at the time.

Posted by: runner at June 20, 2021 09:55 AM (V13WU)

242 154 I'm currently reading Dangers of the Trail in 1865: A Narrative of Actual Events. Its about a young man who set out from Iowa to Oregon because he didn't care for Iowa's climate.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 20, 2021 09:13 AM

Here's one you might want to check out. I just finished The Big Burn:Teddy Roosevelt and the Fire That Saved America by Timothy Egan. It's the story of the 1910 wildfire that burned over 3 million acres of forest and towns in Idaho, Montana and parts of of Washington and British Columbia. It covers the creation of The Forest Service under Roosevelt and Gifford Pinchot, which in its infancy had to battle against the financial interests of logging and mining companies and the senators (Republicans!) that supported them in Congress. I'm not sure that the subtitle was sufficiently proven but a key take-away message for me is that the federal government has not been a friend to the common man for a very long time. The individuals that fought, died or were injured fighting the fires were never justly compensated.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 09:56 AM (qe5CM)

243 "Spheres of Influence" were established before the war is over. Realpolitik.

Posted by: runner at June 20, 2021 09:56 AM (V13WU)

244 *was

Posted by: runner at June 20, 2021 09:57 AM (V13WU)

245
The West was also exhausted by World War I.
Starting a land war in Asia was not going to be a popular move. This is
also why people who think we should have followed Patton's advice and
attacked the USSR in 1945 are talking out of their hat. The US public
was war-weary in 1945, sick of rationing and casualty lists.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 08:38 AM (llXky)

The American "Elites", from the ivy league schools and those that wanted to be just like them also lurved them some communism, and were interested in seeing it work, and if it failed, well, it was just illiberal and backwards Russia.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2021 09:59 AM (ySM85)

246 What, exactly is the war aim of our Newer Cooler World War II?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at June 20, 2021 09:30 AM (llXky)

Good question! I think one of our aims should have been that since the Nazis were eliminated their kissing cousins the commies were next, as they were just as illegitimate and criminal.

But the times they were a changing...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 20, 2021 09:59 AM (R/m4+)

247 Back for a moment. I looked at Sheryll Attkisson's site and it seems that bastard Hotez made up the white supremacist nazi bullshit against her. Hotez is a first rate scoundrel and I hope she gets every fucking penny he has.

The "white supremacist-nazi" bullshit needs to be fought at every opportunity, no matter the background of the accuser. I am fed up with this crap and the people who accuse individuals of it in order to hide their wrong doings or promote their agenda.
This revelation makes me skeptical of yet another famous doctor. Is his research worth a damn if he has to throw down the nazi card and make up lies that someone called him a nazi. Just pathetic

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 09:59 AM (ONvIw)

248 "The plan we should have used was to put a strongman in charge, give him some guns and leave."

Like Batista?

"The message would have been simple: piss of the US, and we take you out."

And when our Batista falls to Iranian backed militia, and Iraq starts developing WMDs again, what do we do? Go to the UN and ask for a new inspections regime? Go solo and nuke Iraq in front of the entire world?

Dr. Evil: "I have a better plan. I'm going to Iraq him in an easily escapable situation that would allow an overly elaborate and exotic death. Then I'm going to leave Iraq alone just assume it all went to plan"

Heh. Snark aside, alternate plans would have their own list of unforeseen problems that "everyone" should have seen coming.

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 10:00 AM (83lwH)

249 Currently reading 'Mortal Republic - How Rome Fell Into Tyranny,' by Edward Watts. It goes without saying that, as I read through the book, I keep getting hit with similarities we as Americans are experiencing. The power hungry, the corrupt, the violence as a norm, the clashing social classes, the ineptness of those in power. I haven't gotten to the total collapse of the Republic yet, but I know it's coming. About 2/3rds through. Good book.

Posted by: Lady in Black at June 20, 2021 10:00 AM (O+I8R)

250 We need Sensible Knife Control for Giant Crabs.

Make it so, Preezy Xiden*

*Hey, it's as real a problem as all the other silly racist, anti-middle/working class crapola he ginning up.

Posted by: naturalfake - THE Unofficial Ambassador of Fatherhood at June 20, 2021 10:00 AM (dWwl8)

251 Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 09:56 AM (qe5CM)

Look at a map of all the Wildfires yearly in the US, then look at a map of where the Federal Government owns land.

You will not almost ALL the fires are in the west, where the BLM controls the land.

Its simple, if a person owns the land, they care for it and don't let it get to the point where it will burn down. The Fed gov? does not care.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2021 10:01 AM (oHd/0)

252 There are few things more frustrating than getting a text on a Saturday morning that your box of books from Edward Hamilton has arrived at the sorting center next to your town and you will get them Monday. Monday!

Posted by: Peter (My friends call me Pete) Zah at June 20, 2021 10:01 AM (uLcLX)

253 We had Nukes and they did not. They had just started working on them at the end of the war.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 20, 2021 08:57 AM (JUOKG)

They had help from the Rosenbergs.
Posted by: Vic

The Rosenbergs ? BZZZZZZT !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:02 AM (arJlL)

254 We did turn Iraq and Afghanistan into Vermont: they're run by anti-American ideologues and are major centers of illegal drug production.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2021 10:03 AM (QZxDR)

255 There are few things more frustrating than getting a text on a Saturday morning that your box of books from Edward Hamilton has arrived at the sorting center next to your town and you will get them Monday. Monday!
Posted by: Peter (My friends call me Pete) Zah at June 20, 2021 10:01 AM (uLcLX)

I feel the same way about the outdoor speakers I ordered for my camper. They teased me and said it would be delivered Saturday, but when I checked it Friday, they changed it to Monday. DAMN.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 10:03 AM (Zz0t1)

256 If you love cheesy paperback covers (and the odd bit of tech and Brit New Wave lore) I again recommend Pulp Librarian (Killer Crab lives there):

https://twitter.com/pulplibrarian

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 10:03 AM (Dc2NZ)

257 I am sure 70 years from now "great strategists" will sit and wonder why we did not drop nukes on Aphganistan and Pakistan (that was shielding Osama himself !) in 2001-2002. And why we are not dropping nukes on Iran today.

Posted by: runner at June 20, 2021 10:03 AM (V13WU)

258 Currently reading 'Mortal Republic - How Rome Fell Into Tyranny,' by Edward Watts. It goes without saying that, as I read through the book, I keep getting hit with similarities we as Americans are experiencing. The power hungry, the corrupt, the violence as a norm, the clashing social classes, the ineptness of those in power. I haven't gotten to the total collapse of the Republic yet, but I know it's coming. About 2/3rds through. Good book.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 20, 2021 10:00 AM (O+I8R)

Currently, rewatching "I, Claudius" and get the same feeling.

History rhyming. Free verse perhaps, but still rhyming.

Posted by: naturalfake - THE Unofficial Ambassador of Fatherhood at June 20, 2021 10:04 AM (dWwl8)

259 Attkisson's site also has a piece on the CDC withholding evidence that the MMR vax may cause autistic symptom in African American boys. I'm sure more lawsuits and maybe riots will come from this. The doc was told to destroy the evidence, but did not due the illegality of that action.

Posted by: CN at June 20, 2021 10:04 AM (ONvIw)

260 Why aren't we, oh great strategic minds ?

Posted by: runner at June 20, 2021 10:04 AM (V13WU)

261 Good morning, OregonMuse, good morning, Horde,

Use rodomontade in a sentence:

Hillary Rodomontade Clinton lost to President Donald Trump.

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 20, 2021 10:05 AM (vXPPP)

262 15 Strobel's "The Case for Christ" is pretty good.

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 20, 2021 10:07 AM (vXPPP)

263 Gonna go read.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 10:07 AM (Dc2NZ)

264 Good morning, OregonMuse, good morning, Horde,

Use rodomontade in a sentence:

Hillary Rodomontade Clinton lost to President Donald Trump.
Posted by: callsign claymore at June 20, 2021 10:05 AM (vXPPP)

Well done.

A+

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 10:07 AM (Zz0t1)

265 When life hands you rodomonts, make rodomontade.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2021 10:08 AM (QZxDR)

266 Good morning Hordemates.
Beautiful library at the U of W. The students you see there are all grad students and foreign students as they are the only ones who can read at that level. The coloring books for undergrads are kept in a separate area.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2021 10:08 AM (axyOa)

267 Off to get my kid to help me observe Fathers' Day by moving heavy objects in the heat.

Posted by: Trimegistus at June 20, 2021 10:09 AM (QZxDR)

268 I saw Quiet Riot open for WAR, at the Rodomat, in 85.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2021 10:09 AM (oHd/0)

269 Finally finished all 1000 pages of The Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson. It was so worth it. The book is brilliant. Someone here on the blog said the last 100 pages would blow me away and yes, that is true as I ended up reading well into the morning hours to get to the finish.
----
One thing I really like about Sanderson is that he knows how to write a very satisfying ending. Each book (so far) has a pretty good conclusion, but also paves the way for the next book in the series.

Posted by: Lord Squirrel at June 20, 2021 10:09 AM (K5n5d)

270 Ah, the graduate student reading room.
A nice place to read.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 20, 2021 10:10 AM (QMwOT)

271 Good Morning Bookies, slept late for some reason.
Reading the Bible, cover to cover. I'm in Isaiah and his predictions about and of Egypt look almost exactly like what we're seeing here right now.

I also fell into a rabbit hole of science fiction on line. The general title is under, "Humans are Space Orcs".
Various author's and it is in audio as well as text formats.
Some stories and pieces are near hysterical.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at June 20, 2021 10:10 AM (FtJ1S)

272 Speaking of books and the U. of W. I would recommend _The Boys In The Boat._

Posted by: Miley the Cyrene at June 20, 2021 10:10 AM (jYQlA)

273 @251

There's a general awareness that Gov. Newsom was setting fires in California so as to impress upon us the dangers of global warming, and also to seek FEMA money when trump was president, since Cali was broke

Last Sept there were dozens of fires, all on uninhabited fed land and stretched out along the length of the state, in the hillsides. There was a meme on Gab showing Newsom in front of flames, with the caption "Global Warming causes arson."

Posted by: artemis at June 20, 2021 10:11 AM (AwPyG)

274 "Why aren't we, oh great strategic minds?"

There are reformers who get over this difficulty by assuming that all their fathers were fools; but if that be so, we can only say that folly appears to be a hereditary disease.

- Chesterton's Fence

https://tinyurl.com/stuwnyfb

Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 10:12 AM (83lwH)

275 I just completed Harold Coyle's Team Yankee. This is a book I first read about 30 years ago, and I reread it every three or four years or so. It is the story of an Army Captain commanding a tank company in what could have been WWIII in Europe. Very good reading and very real look at life as a soldier and leader in war.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2021 10:12 AM (axyOa)

276 Posted by: artemis at June 20, 2021 10:11 AM (AwPyG)

gotta love a guy who holds onto emergency powers after the emergency is gone... just in case...

And gets recalled by the electorate but won't set a date for the recall election... because of the emergency?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 20, 2021 10:13 AM (oHd/0)

277 I don't think a blue crab could take a finger off...but I've seen one cut a fish in half.

A decent-sized stone crab (menippe sp.) might be able to take a finger or at least break one.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 20, 2021 10:13 AM (nfrXX)

278 JT, I'm flattered you think I can read. Hope all is well. Heidi says Hi JT! Hello all. Back to lurking.
Posted by: All words matter

!

I KNEW it !

And everybody thought i was cray-cray !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:13 AM (arJlL)

279 Speaking of books and the U. of W. I would recommend _The Boys In The Boat._
Posted by: Miley the Cyrene at June 20, 2021 10:10 AM (jYQlA)

Making fun of the U of W aside, that is a good book indeed!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 20, 2021 10:13 AM (axyOa)

280 48 "Windswept House" is a good read.

Very little of it is fiction.

The black mass conducted by traitor clergy in the beginning of the book actually happened.

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 20, 2021 10:14 AM (vXPPP)

281 And Beatle historian Mark Lewishon's first volume in a projected trilogy, Tune In, came out in 2016, with no word on when volume 2 would be out.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
If Robert Caro sticks to his 10 years a volume, we'll have his final book on LBJ next year.

Posted by: Peter (My friends call me Pete) Zah at June 20, 2021 10:14 AM (uLcLX)

282 @279

Didn't they make a movie from The Boys in the Boat?
I can't remember

Posted by: artemis at June 20, 2021 10:14 AM (AwPyG)

283 Hiya Donna of the Ampersands !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:15 AM (arJlL)

284 >>>The Rosenbergs ? BZZZZZZT !<
>Don't forget to throw in Oppenheimer.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 20, 2021 10:16 AM (HnNKD)

285 You can use pretty much the whole alphabet for that H is for Hawk series.

Auk, bock, caulk, doc, Faulk, gawk, hock, jock, Koch, Locke, mock, nock, oarlock, pock quokka, rock, sock, tock, unlock, windsock, Yawk (as in Noo Yawk), Zip-Lok

Just missing 'E', 'V' and 'X'. Any help?

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2021 10:17 AM (Fc5rx)

286 Hiya Artemis !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:18 AM (arJlL)

287 I also just finished The Berlin Girl, a historical fiction by Mandy Robothom that is set in 1938 Berlin. It follows the experiences of two British journalists as they come face-to-face with the appalling world Hitler is creating in the pre-war city. It's a good summer read and a nice break before starting the next book on my list: "Stalin's Englishman: Guy Burgess, The Cold War and the Cambridge Spy Ring" by Andrew Lownie. I hope to have that one finished early this week.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 10:18 AM (qe5CM)

288 @279

I read that Michigan governor's secty of state has claimed that their own recall effort failed--not enough signatures.

I am amazed the same thing didn't happen in California, but you are right, the bad guys will never let it happen.

Posted by: artemis at June 20, 2021 10:18 AM (AwPyG)

289 @286

Hiya JT!

Posted by: artemis at June 20, 2021 10:19 AM (AwPyG)

290 Why aren't we, oh great strategic minds ?
Posted by: runner at June 20, 2021 10:04 AM (V13WU)

I think we pledged to use nukes only for defensive purposes.

So the meat grinders grind on...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 20, 2021 10:20 AM (R/m4+)

291 Just missing 'E', 'V' and 'X'. Any help?

Ewok, Vok (singular of vox) and Xock (slang for exotic)

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:21 AM (arJlL)

292 Hiya Moonbeam !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:22 AM (arJlL)

293 '74 was the last year that Renault included a genuine rodomontade in the standard tool kit.

Posted by: klaftern at June 20, 2021 10:22 AM (r4sI4)

294 IMDB sez The Boys In The Boat movie is under development.

Posted by: Miley the Cyrene at June 20, 2021 10:22 AM (jYQlA)

295 Use rodomontade in a ~~sentence~~ limerick:

suggested upgrade.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2021 10:23 AM (Fc5rx)

296 Ewok!! Duh. Thnks JT. The other two are bogus though.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2021 10:25 AM (Fc5rx)

297 Should have nuked Moscow and a few other Soviet cities in 1946 then liberated Eastern Europe and installed a democratic government in Russia. Made it opens season on the Bolsheviks.

Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 20, 2021 10:26 AM (QMwOT)

298 292 Hiya Moonbeam !
Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:22 AM

Hi JT! Are you getting rain from this tropical storm yet? It's raining heavily here right now- going to last all day. A perfect day to read and nap!

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 10:26 AM (qe5CM)

299 @294

I imagine the problem is that it's a story that necessarily won't have girl-heroes or diversity, and so the powers that be are reluctant to have it happen.

sigh.

Posted by: artemis at June 20, 2021 10:26 AM (AwPyG)

300
Bought Long Live Death: The Keys to Victory in the Spanish Civil War by A. H. Lloyd this morning. Just helping a fellow Moron out.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2021 10:28 AM (mht8P)

301 Ewok!! Duh. Thnks JT. The other two are bogus though.
Posted by: Muldoon

That's the last time I throw you a life saver !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:28 AM (arJlL)

302 Vax causing autism? It not this shit again.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 20, 2021 10:29 AM (e2Xx1)

303 Rodomontade sounds like a condiment

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 20, 2021 10:29 AM (cSyAR)

304 It rained here yesterday; nice day today, hot tho.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:29 AM (arJlL)

305
And though the cells had launched a multimillion-dollar industry that sells human biological materials, her family never saw any of the profits

They must have taken lessons in accounting from the movie industry.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2021 10:30 AM (mht8P)

306 Should have nuked Moscow and a few other Soviet cities in 1946 then liberated Eastern Europe and installed a democratic government in Russia. Made it opens season on the Bolsheviks.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 20, 2021 10:26 AM (QMwOT)

At the least we should have used the threat in our negotiations with Stalin. May not have had to do it. No way they should have been able to control Poland. The bastards attacked Poland basically at the same time as Hitler did and they massacred thousands of Polish prisoners and military officers,

Posted by: Just a side note at June 20, 2021 10:30 AM (2DOZq)

307 Rodomontade sounds like a condiment
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy

Sounds like Raimondo's stage name.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:31 AM (arJlL)

308 I needed a book for the potential wait for the barber and grabbed "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis. Written in 1935, it is oddly prescient of 70 years later with the charisma of Obama greatly leading to his election and the free money of Biden contributing towards his claimed election. And Windrep had his Minute Men, Biden has his antifa.

(As it turned out the barber was closed on Friday for some reason so I got more time to read.)

Posted by: Peter (My friends call me Pete) Zah at June 20, 2021 10:31 AM (uLcLX)

309 I'm reading "The War of the Gods in Addiction" by David Schoen. Mark Judge, who was Justice Kavanaugh's friend back in high school, talks about it. Judge is a recovering alcoholic and now writing about how the enemies of Kavanaugh tried to get him to testify against him--to no avail.
I didn't realize it, but the founder of AA corresponded with Carl Jung and used some of his theory in AA. So very interesting!

Posted by: pj at June 20, 2021 10:31 AM (G1dq6)

310
Rodomontade - a limerick

I once told my old buddy Claude
"Your pronunciation sometimes is odd.
Your use, I'm afraid
Sounds like rodomon-TAYED
While I prefer rodomon-TODD!"

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2021 10:32 AM (Fc5rx)

311 Rodomontade sounds like a condiment
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at June 20, 2021 10:29 AM (cSyAR)

Remoulade

Posted by: Just a side note at June 20, 2021 10:32 AM (2DOZq)

312 (As it turned out the barber was closed on Friday for some reason so I got more time to read.)
Posted by: Peter (My friends call me Pete) Zah

He was at the dentist for Juneteeth.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:33 AM (arJlL)

313
Just missing 'E', 'V' and 'X'. Any help?
Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2021 10:17 AM (Fc5rx)

X is like Orange, really

work arounds would be Ewok and Vostok though

Posted by: Kindltot at June 20, 2021 10:34 AM (ySM85)

314
No way they should have been able to control Poland. The bastards attacked Poland basically at the same time as Hitler did and they massacred thousands of Polish prisoners and military officers,
Posted by: Just a side note at June 20, 2021 10:30 AM (2DOZq)

After V-E Day, politician, socialite and jackass Henry "Chips" Channon was at a glittering party. Looking with a self-satisfied air around the room he said, "This, after all, is what we were fighting for." Lady Emerald Cunard replied, "What! Are they all Poles?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 20, 2021 10:34 AM (mht8P)

315 Reason why McCloskey gave up his AR ? To buy a better AR ! "Checking out my new AR!' ...attorney Mark McCloskey shows off his new rifle bought just days after court ordered him and his wife to surrender their weapons ". Explanation : "The two weapons that were seized from me were evidence in a criminal case. Per the state of MO they are to be incinerated."

Posted by: runner at June 20, 2021 10:34 AM (V13WU)

316 309 I'm reading "The War of the Gods in Addiction" by David Schoen. Mark Judge, who was Justice Kavanaugh's friend back in high school, talks about it. Judge is a recovering alcoholic and now writing about how the enemies of Kavanaugh tried to get him to testify against him--to no avail.
I didn't realize it, but the founder of AA corresponded with Carl Jung and used some of his theory in AA. So very interesting!
Posted by: pj at June 20, 2021 10:31 AM

What happened to Mark Judge breaks my heart, especially because he seems so emotionally fragile. I always click on links to his articles.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 10:35 AM (qe5CM)

317 Vostok though
Posted by: Kindltot

***

Okay, that works. Or Vladivostok I suppose.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2021 10:37 AM (Fc5rx)

318 @305

It's very amusing, to see the outrage that tax returns were revealed showing that the very rich don't pay taxes (which is not a news flash to most of us)

The people who are outraged are the same people who fought like crazy to leak Trump's tax returns.

Posted by: artemis at June 20, 2021 10:37 AM (AwPyG)

319 I think the most cromulent word for the internet by a large margin is Ultracrepidarian.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 20, 2021 10:41 AM (2DOZq)

320 He-La, He-La, my boyfriend's back!

You're welcome for the earworm

Posted by: Muldoon at June 20, 2021 10:42 AM (Fc5rx)

321 I suspect; but cannot prove, that the sandman sprinkles miracle-gro in my nostrils and my ears whilst I sleep.

I also think he smudges my glasses.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:43 AM (arJlL)

322 256 If you love cheesy paperback covers (and the odd bit of tech and Brit New Wave lore) I again recommend Pulp Librarian (Killer Crab lives there):

https://twitter.com/pulplibrarian

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 10:03 AM (Dc2NZ)

Yes, I think that is where I got the crab book pic from. PulpLib must've broken in to your house and snapped a few pics of your library.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 10:44 AM (CUWNn)

323 What happened to Mark Judge breaks my heart, especially because he seems so emotionally fragile. I always click on links to his articles.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 10:35 AM (qe5CM)

I've read a couple of his pieces on Medium. It sounds like he's still trying to work through the injuries they inflicted on him.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 10:46 AM (CUWNn)

324 Currently reading 'Mortal Republic - How Rome Fell Into Tyranny,' by Edward Watts.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 20, 2021 10:00 AM (O+I8R)

There is also Corruption and the Decline of Rome, by Ramsay MacMullen.
It's more of a scholarly work: it has 80 pages of notes and a 30 page bibliography for a 320 page book.
However, it's a very good read.

Posted by: Stonn at June 20, 2021 10:46 AM (xP36F)

325 I'm currently reading Maximum Bob; continuing my Elmore Leonard kick.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:47 AM (arJlL)

326 He-La, He-La, my boyfriend's back!

You're welcome for the earworm
Posted by: Muldoon

I already have Melanie's Brand New Key.

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:48 AM (arJlL)

327 Happy Father's Day to my Dad. And to me. And to all the impregnating Morons. This is really funny:
https://tinyurl.com/83u2r9zt

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 20, 2021 10:49 AM (r+sAi)

328 319 Didn't Conan the Barbarian hail from Ultracrepidaria?

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 20, 2021 10:49 AM (vXPPP)

329 If fat people are indeed jolly, that would make them both corpulent and cromulent.

Posted by: Miley the Cyrene at June 20, 2021 10:50 AM (jYQlA)

330 He-La, He-La, my boyfriend's back!

You're welcome for the earworm
Posted by: Muldoon

I already have Melanie's Brand New Key.
Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:48 AM (arJlL)

Pfft. No problem.

I use Earworm-Away, and Earworm-Away Classic for those old old old ancient antediluvian earworms like..uh..well like those ones mentioned above.

Posted by: naturalfake - THE Unofficial Ambassador of Fatherhood at June 20, 2021 10:51 AM (dWwl8)

331 X is for Xerox.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at June 20, 2021 10:51 AM (r+sAi)

332 If fat people are indeed jolly, that would make them both corpulent and cromulent.

Posted by: Miley the Cyrene at June 20, 2021 10:50 AM (jYQlA)

Should be a dessert.

Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2021 10:52 AM (AwYPR)

333 330 He-La, He-La, my boyfriend's back!

You're welcome for the earworm
Posted by: Muldoon

I already have Melanie's Brand New Key.
Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 10:48 AM (arJlL)

Yes, but The Pleasant Valley Sunday is always there.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at June 20, 2021 10:52 AM (jvt6t)

334 This isn't exactly a book but the Epoch times has started a magazine "American Essence", a monthly. One of the stories in the first issue is "Liberty Farm", about a woman who purchased an old farm down near Mt. Vernon, and then faced ten years of fighting over-regulation and outright corruption. There were actually two bills passed in the VA legislature that protect small farms and property rights.

Posted by: Lirio100 at June 20, 2021 10:54 AM (uFOGo)

335 And for those looking for an interesting read regarding Red/White clashes post-Revolution, there's always the excellent biography of the bugnuts Baron Roman von Ungern-Sternberg by James Palmer, "The Bloody White Baron: The Extraordinary Story Of The Russian Nobleman Who Became The Last Khan Of Mongolia". A man so violent he is still revered as a god by some Mongols!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_von_Ungern-Sternberg

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 10:55 AM (Dc2NZ)

336 Posted by: dantesed at June 20, 2021 09:07 AM

Immediately if not last week. On Movie Thread last wee put up my 10 favorite war movies, not a coincidence 2, ABtF and Longest Day both of Cornelius Ryan are on it. Have read also The Last Battle and a shame no one took it to film.
BTW that's were the " Steyner will come" is from.

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2021 10:57 AM (Cxk7w)

337 332 If fat people are indeed jolly, that would make them both corpulent and cromulent.

Posted by: Miley the Cyrene at June 20, 2021 10:50 AM (jYQlA)

Should be a dessert.
Posted by: BignJames at June 20, 2021 10:52 AM (AwYPR)
---

It really does sound like a British Christmas pudding. A big steaming suet pudding with jolly sauce.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 10:58 AM (Dc2NZ)

338 323 What happened to Mark Judge breaks my heart, especially because he seems so emotionally fragile. I always click on links to his articles.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 10:35 AM (qe5CM)

I've read a couple of his pieces on Medium. It sounds like he's still trying to work through the injuries they inflicted on him.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 20, 2021 10:46 AM

There's a paragraph or so that he includes in every article that I'm willing to indulge for his sake. I don't think it's cathartic to include it in every one, but who am I to judge (no pun intended). I think you're right about him still trying to work through it. I have a tangential connection to him through close friends that were also dragged into that saga (by Ed Whelan of all people), and their lives were upended in an instant. I would definitely read his book, so I do hope he gets it written.

Posted by: Moonbeam at June 20, 2021 10:59 AM (qe5CM)

339 155 Sponge I have that also, it was supposed to be a movie right after it was out, that's when I got it, but never happened.
Politics?

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2021 10:59 AM (Cxk7w)

340 NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at June 20, 2021 11:01 AM (Cxk7w)

341 Thanks for another great Book Thread, OM!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 11:03 AM (Dc2NZ)

342 June has not been a good month for the actual process of reading and I don't know why. Shrug.

I finished Cormac McCarthy's All the Pretty Horses this past week, and that's the only book I've finished in 20 days. Cormac McCarthy makes me sad and I think it must hurt to live inside his head. But DANG the man can write. He is one of those authors I can SEE the greatness of, but cannot read much of him at a time without feeling way too much despair.

My audiobook that I am currently listening to - and I'm right about 1/3 in - is David McCullough's The Path Between the Seas. I am a huge fan of McCullough's work and I'm loving this one just as much as the others. He has a way of making little forays off-topic interesting. We'll see if I can keep up when he starts talking about the actual building of the canal (so far we're only to the failure of the French effort). I'm no engineer and 3-D visualization is not my strong suit. This is where and audiobook is probably going to let me down. We'll see. Maybe I'll check out a copy of the book so I can look at pictures.

Currently reading Frankenstein by Mary Shelley.

Posted by: SummaMamaT at June 20, 2021 11:07 AM (USQVR)

343 William F. Buckley was fond of the word "rodomontade", which he frequently used to describe the speeches of liberal Democrats.

(Much less well-known is Buckley's standard retort when challenged why he and his conservative views should be listened to:

"Because I'm SMAHT, not dumb like they all say.")

Posted by: Noam Sayen at June 20, 2021 11:09 AM (fPFtn)

344 As soon as I saw the All Hail Eris book (CRABS: The Human Sacrifice), the "crab people" chant from South Park started running through my brain.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at June 20, 2021 08:13 AM (K5n5d)

Pretty pricey pulp book, at $3.50

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at June 20, 2021 11:18 AM (ujvEh)

345 272 Miley as Chef said " Never leave the boat"

Posted by: Skip at June 20, 2021 11:29 AM (Cxk7w)

346 This week's book is "Vicksburg: Grant's Campaign That Broke the
Confederacy," by Donald L. Miller. This is an excellent, detailed analysis of the Vicksburg campaigns (there were four of them, all told) which ended in the fall of Vicksburg in July 1863. Miller concentrates on the Union side, though he does go into some detail about the sufferings of the white locals (considerable) and of the blacks who were pawns in this particular game. It's detailed, clearly organized, well written, and with lots of detailed maps. If you're a Civil War buff, this is a must-read. BTW, it lists at $35.00, though it's now available remaindered on daedalusbooks.com for ~$7.00. (+S&H).

Posted by: Nemo at June 20, 2021 11:30 AM (S6ArX)

347 And on the topic of books, I just started reading Malachi Martin's Hostage to the Devil. I stayed up late last night; it was tough to put down. Its about several exorcisms in the 60-70s.
Posted by: LASue at June 20, 2021 09:44 AM (Ed8Zd)

Sorry, I woke up late.
People of the Lie, by M. Scott Peck, includes his thoughts on Exorcism from a psychological perspective.
Mr. Peck was a Christian, and believed exorcism could truly expel Satan or a demon, but examines the psychological after-effects of the exorcism.
He talked with two people who had had successfull exorcisms, which he also witnessed.
And he mentions Mr. Martin and his book, Hostage to the Devil.

Posted by: Stonn at June 20, 2021 11:32 AM (xP36F)

348 I loved "Party Going". After PG, i read more of his books. They weren't all as good as PG, though some were.

I think Henry Green is a sort of genius. He can write what appear to be very simple stories, and without telling you anything, still let's you see and feel and understand everything. A singular talent.
Posted by: naturalfake - THE Unofficial Ambassador of Fatherhood at June 20, 2021 09:54 AM (dWwl

I'm not surprised you like it because after being irritated by all the characters it has a unique charm and I'm glad I stuck with it. I think you're right about Green.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 20, 2021 11:53 AM (g5I2H)

349 Our classical music station is suffering from Jazz Creep again.

It's insidious.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at June 20, 2021 12:56 PM (Dc2NZ)

350 Moonbeam, yes, they tried to break him. He says that the whole time that woman was "delayed" getting to DC is because they were pressuring him to falsely testify.
He sounds like he has a deep foundation, so I hope he will be okay. Tough row to hoe.

Posted by: pj at June 20, 2021 12:58 PM (G1dq6)

351 Immediately if not last week. On Movie Thread last wee put up my 10 favorite war movies, not a coincidence 2, ABtF and Longest Day both of Cornelius Ryan are on it. Have read also The Last Battle and a shame no one took it to film.
BTW that's were the " Steyner will come" is from.
Posted by: Skip

On the Western Thread, I can't believe nobody mentioned Blazing Saddles !

Posted by: JT at June 20, 2021 01:38 PM (arJlL)

352 Currently reading 'Mortal Republic - How Rome Fell Into Tyranny,' by Edward Watts. It goes without saying that, as I read through the book, I keep getting hit with similarities we as Americans are experiencing. The power hungry, the corrupt, the violence as a norm, the clashing social classes, the ineptness of those in power. I haven't gotten to the total collapse of the Republic yet, but I know it's coming. About 2/3rds through. Good book.
Posted by: Lady in Black at June 20, 2021 10:00 AM (O+I8R)

Currently, rewatching "I, Claudius" and get the same feeling.

History rhyming. Free verse perhaps, but still rhyming.
Posted by: naturalfake
---------

Late here, as usual these days. Referring to above, the Moron recommended 'Paris In The Terror', Loomis, reiterates the trajectory of such collapses.

I've noted in recent years that 'Progressives' have adopted the label 'Irrelevant' when history is presented to them. Among their psychoses is the denial that there is any such thing as human nature, or established patterns of societal behavior.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2021 01:39 PM (CTJwJ)

353 Greetings:

228 Posted by: Hoyt's Turkish Troll Provocateur at June 20, 2021 09:40 AM (83lwH)

I see Islam as the globalization of Arab tribal culture under a thin veneer of religion. And I have read some Bernard Lewis.

The "tribal" culture aspect is determinative for me because it lays the foundation for the "us versus them" worldview.

Those of the left refuse to discover this obvious dynamic in spite of their developed expertise at pointing out the nano-peccadillos of the West.

Where tribalism governs, "nation-state" building is almost always a fool's errand.

Posted by: 11B40 at June 20, 2021 01:43 PM (evgyj)

354 Finished up Michael Crichton's Dragon Teeth which was appropriate reading while in South Dakota. More an adventure novel than his other work. About two expeditions to find dinosaur bones in the West with historical characters and Indians. Fun read

Posted by: Charlotte at June 20, 2021 01:47 PM (/cO/2)

355

Who Dis? PIXIE of course,coding book hidden inside "The Little Prince".

Posted by: Saf at June 20, 2021 01:48 PM (/N+d8)

356 Just finished a second Elizabeth Ironside novel, 'The Accomplice' . Having found her first book, 'Death in the Garden' to be very well written, I sought another. Local library came up zip, so I shopped for a used book. I happened across a hardback 1st edition of 'The Accomplice', signed by, get this, Author, Publisher, and dust jacket designer. What bibliohead could resist?

I steal here, a brief Goodreads review: "Starts slow but later becomes hard to put down. It is not really a mystery but rather a historical novel. The scenes from Latvia and Russia before and during WW2 are wrenching and very well written."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 20, 2021 01:51 PM (9Fwwf)

357 The cover for "Crabs: The Human Sacrifice" inspires me to recommend a story involving human sacrifices offered to a giant crab: "Soldier Key" in the collection "The Peculiar Exploits of Brigadier Ffellows" by Sterling Lanier (available for Kindle). For that matter, I recommend the collection as a whole.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at June 20, 2021 02:10 PM (x4GWW)

358 Finished up Michael Crichton's Dragon Teeth which was appropriate reading while in South Dakota. More an adventure novel than his other work. About two expeditions to find dinosaur bones in the West with historical characters and Indians. Fun read

I think that was his first book, that publishers turned down (???) but I enjoyed it quite a bit.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2021 07:27 PM (KZzsI)

359 The thing is, Dragon Teeth sounds like a 100% sure winner: dinosaurs, the old west, and a kidnapped-style story structure. How can you lose? But publishers didn't see it that way, for some reason.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 20, 2021 07:29 PM (KZzsI)

360 sdfsdf

Posted by: nishdoogedacht at June 20, 2021 11:07 PM (UsbFe)

361 (OK, it worked this time. I was getting error messages for my last couple of comments.)

I remember "rodomontade" from my high school vocabulary list. Before I found its real meaning I thought it was a salad dressing made from rats.

Posted by: nishdoogedacht at June 20, 2021 11:09 PM (UsbFe)

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