"All Things Considered" considers "lived experiences". But probably not yours

Once again, I have sacrificed multiple minutes listening to NPR so you don't have to. This time, it was while driving home through the country, where electrical lines sometimes interfere with radio reception of other stations. I also caught bits of Mark Levin talking about the Fauci emails and Larry Elder on Second Amendment issues.

NPR's "All Things Considered" from Thursday sounded like its typical self, but there have been some subtle changes. It certainly was a contrast to Mark Levin and Larry Elder. NPR sounds so, I don't know, calmly and condescendingly magisterial or something. In a way friendly to their supporters, they hope. I have a hard time describing their sound precisely. But you know it. Below, some details on three pieces from the NPR program:

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We Hold These Truths: How Newsroom Leaders Wrestled With Covering A Tumultuous Year

This was sort of a panel discussion (light on the 'discussion'), with commentary on things like how social media pressured newsrooms, for example, to say that "police murdered George Floyd" rather than "George Floyd died".

But I kind of homed in on an academic phrase that bothers me. Sara Just from PBS:

Yeah, I think that you're absolutely right. There's been a deeper understanding and deeper conversation about how much our lived experiences play into the reporting that we do. And there's no question that it does for each and every one of us in different ways. And I think that lived experience we especially highlight now is valuable, whether it's race or gender or the challenges. I don't think people with those lived experiences have to carry the burden, though, of being the only ones to report on it by any means. And so that's something that we are always balancing. (emphases mine)

So, are they balancing whether or not people without "lived experiences" can report on issues involving "lived experiences"? Like Lori Lightfoot deciding she would only do one-on-one interviews with journalists of color? Will white people be allowed to report on stories involving black people? Will men be allowed to report on stories involving women?

This is partly about local sources, but it is largely about people thought of as being in "oppressed groups". This panel is informing us that news reporting will now be filtered through the language and perspective of Critical Social Justice, whether we realize it or not.

The indispensable Translations from the Wokish at New Discourses provides the following information on Lived Experience:

In the Theory of Critical Social Justice, for what turn out to be surprisingly deep and philosophically (almost) sophisticated reasons, lived experience is the overwhelmingly primary way in which knowledge can be obtained. This should not be mistaken to mean one's firsthand experience, which most of us already recognize to provide a rather weak claim upon knowledge, though it is both implied and claimed that this is what "lived experience" refers to in Critical Social Justice. Lived experience, as Critical Social Justice uses the term, refers more specifically to one's life experiences in allegedly systemic power dynamics of dominance and oppression that shape society structurally as understood with a critical consciousness and interpreted through Theory. That is, one's "lived experience" refers to the interpretation that Critical Social Justice Theory gives for the anecdotal accounts of experiences one has had.
Because "lived experience" refers to an interpretation through Theory, it is only the "lived experience of oppression," as Theory will have it, that counts. . .

It appears that you can't really understand the reporting on PBS, and probably NPR, now unless you have studied Critical Social Justice.

Certainly, the claimed "lived experience" of members of dominant groups cannot be in any way used to challenge or dispute the assertions of Theory or those claiming to speak from it . . .
This restriction extends to members of "minoritized" groups who disagree with Theory as well--Theory cannot be authentically disagreed with. One might think that the lived experience of a member of oppressed groups would be admissible as a valid challenge to the claims of Theory, but this not so. They may be talking about their own experiences in life, but they aren't appealing to lived experience, which must comport with Theory. . .

This is all very confusing and appears to be exactly what it is--a form of manipulating knowledge and epistemology as a means of asserting power and rigging the system such that those assertions of power cannot be challenged. Nevertheless, it isn't merely an application of power and has a rather interesting and deep philosophical explanation that must be understood to understand why "lived experience" holds the status that it does and why it must comport with Theory to be granted veridical status and epistemic weight. This has everything to do with the fact that the roots of Critical Social Justice are in critical theories and, especially, postmodern philosophy.

There is much more, but it is way too deep to include here.

The NPR panel goes on to discuss new understandings of "balance" and "objectivity". They do not intend to be objective. "Balance" will mean something different than what it has meant in the past in the news business.

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Ben Rhodes' New Book

I bet you can hardly wait to read Ben Rhodes' new book, After the Fall: Being American in the World We've Made.

He described his book as demonstrating to people the importance of letting go of the idea that it is inevitable that things are going to get better. Something he thought when he and his interviewer "were kids" and he was working for Obama.

Maybe you remember this video:

Poor kid. His vision of perpetual improvement in America and The World through the governance of Team Hillary was suddenly destroyed.

Well, he went on a world tour after that, for his book. Be prepared, because he has a heavy book promo schedule. This is from the overview:

In 2017, as Ben Rhodes was helping Barack Obama begin his next chapter, the legacy they had worked to build for eight years was being taken apart. To understand what was happening in America, Rhodes decided to look outward. Over the next three years, he traveled to dozens of countries, meeting with politicians, activists, and dissidents confronting the same nationalism and authoritarianism that was tearing America apart. Along the way, a Russian opposition leader he spoke with was poisoned, the Hong Kong protesters he came to know saw their movement snuffed out, and America itself reached the precipice of losing democracy before giving itself a second chance.

Oh, my. I want Ben Rhodes to identify exactly what steps the Biden/Harris Administration is taking to decentralize governance and reduce the power of the Federal Government in the lives of people. So we don't "lose democracy" during our "second chance".

Part memoir and part reportage, After the Fall is a hugely ambitious and essential work of discovery. In his travels, Rhodes comes to realize how much America's fingerprints are on a world we helped to shape, through our post-Cold War embrace of unbridled capitalism and our post-9/11 nationalism and militarism; our mania for technology and social media; and the racism that fueled the backlash to America's first Black president. At the same time, Rhodes learns from the stories of a diverse set of characters--from Barack Obama himself to Cuban rebels to a rising generation of international leaders -- that looking squarely at where America has gone wrong makes clear how essential it is to fight for what America is supposed to be, for our own country and the entire world.

He is a leader among a rising generation of international leaders! Bringing America Together to fulfill her destiny!

In the NPR interview, Rhodes declares that democracy is on the wane in many other countries, such as Hong Kong and Hungary. He didn't go into details about Hong Kong, but implied that Trump is sort of like Hungary's Orban. So, I want to read or hear what he intends to do about China's oppression of Hong Kong.

RHODES: Well, you know, it's interesting. The starting point for this book is I talked to one of these Hungarian oppositionists, an anti-corruption activist, and I said, how did your country become, you know, a dictatorship in basically a decade after being a democracy? And he said, well, it's simple. Viktor Orban got elected on right-wing populism as a backlash to the financial crisis. He packed the courts with right-wing judges. He changed the voting laws to make it easier for his supporters to vote and harder for others. He kind of enriched some cronies who then bought up the media, financed Orban's politics and created kind of a right-wing propaganda machine. And he wrapped it up in a nationalist message, a blood-and-soil nationalist message. We are the true Hungarians. It's us versus them. The them can be immigrants. They can be Muslims. They're George Soros.
He's talking, and I'm thinking, well, he could be describing my lived experience of American politics and the Republican Party over the last decade.

His lived experience. So, Ben Rhodes, an apparently cis-gender white man, counts as a member of an oppressed group because the all-powerful, dictatorial Republican Party has been oppressing him? The Republican Party is the dominant political and cultural power in America? Rhodes has bona fide "lived experience" of oppression just like, say, a member of the Transgender Community? Is this in line with Theory?

I kind of missed where the Republican Party enriched its cronies so they would buy up the media. Is he referring to staunch Republican Jeff Bezos buying the Washington Post? Who owns the New York Times now? Is it now part of the right-wing propaganda machine? What about CBS, where his brother was the president while Rhodes was working for Obama? Did the Republicans buy his brother, too?

Where, exactly, is the overwhelming Republican control of Social Media? On Twitter? Facebook?

Quite a list of dictatorial moves Rhodes has there. BTW, hasn't George Soros been involved in funding some propaganda outlets in the USA?

And the more I explored this and pulled the thread of what happened in Hungary, I came to that realization, Ari, that most of human history is a story of nationalism and nationalism that leads to conflict. It's really only the recent decades, the post-World War II era, where people started to take for granted that somehow we'd put that behind us.

And left the real slaughter to folks like Mao?

Dennis Prager on good vs. bad nationalism and related subjects, or Clarity about Nationalism:

The creation of nations was a major moral achievement. It got people to identify with something beyond their families and tribes, which always involved violent feuds and warfare. . .
And the lack of a unifying national identity is one of the two main reasons (the other being corruption) that much of Africa lags behind other regions. If Hutus and Tutsis would have identified first as Rwandans, one of the worst genocides in the contemporary world -- the Hutu slaughter of nearly 1 million Tutsis in a little over three months in 1994 -- would likely never have happened. It was murder at a greater pace than the Nazi genocide of the Jews in the Holocaust -- and without any modern machines of death. It was done one-on-one almost entirely using machetes.

Today, nationalism in Europe is increasing primarily because of the belief among many Europeans that the European Union is overbearing and because many Europeans do not believe that a "European" identity can offer anywhere near the comfort, emotional sustenance and communal ties a national identity offers. . .
The great teaching of the Bible is "Love your neighbor as yourself." It does not say "Love all of humanity as yourself." Love must begin with our neighbor. It should never end with our neighbor, but it must begin with him.

Rhodes must realize that "his side" is promoting conflict between neighbors in America with different race, gender or other identities. He uses phrases like "lived experience". Speaking of "us versus them", I bet Rhodes knows what "intersectionality" is.

Aren't all these "communities" promoted by the left intended to engender an "us versus them" approach? What, exactly, is "The Asian Community"? A High school program sponsored by several NY colleges does not allow white students to apply. Their discrimination against Jews and some segments of the "Asian Community" will likely be more subtle.

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On the subject of talking with foreigners, Kamala Harris is going to visit Central America.

Is she the busiest woman in Washington?

I thought this interview was a little bit creepy. They talked about issues like immigration policy involving discussions with foreign leaders as if the most important thing about these national issues was how women and minorities felt about what Harris was doing, and how her actions might affect her political future and the political futures of other Black women. Errin Haines, editor-at-large at The 19th:

Well, you know what it says, based on the folks that I talked to, is that it really is an acknowledgement of the leadership of Vice President Harris, who said when she took this job that she really wanted to bring her lived experience to this role. And so I think that you are seeing her showing up in areas that - where she is able to bring her experience as a woman, as a Black person in this country, person of color in this country, an immigrant in this country, somebody who holds a lot of different identities into the roles that she's being tasked with and also roles that she has raised her hand and said that she wants to take on.

There we go with "lived experience" again. Because all women, Black people, people of color, and immigrants to this country (or Canada) have similar "lived experiences" and will relate to Harris on that basis.

Of the 17 stories listed for this episode of "All Things Considered" (I didn't hear all of them), as least nine seem to include one or more angles based in identity politics - race, gender, etc. More than half the stories.

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Music

Dream a Little Dream

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This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Posted by: K.T. at 11:16 AM

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1 Arf!

Posted by: Sandy at June 05, 2021 10:18 AM (fLVm1)

2 Yeah Buddy

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at June 05, 2021 10:18 AM (R5lpX)

3 Ben Rhodes needs a heaping helping of STFU.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 05, 2021 10:20 AM (fLVm1)

4 SpaceX Falcon 9 launch tonight, 12:26 AM (June 6) Eastern Time.

Launching from Cape Canaveral. Payload is a new Sirius satellite.

Info and a link to the live stream:

https://tinyurl.com/a377cm

Posted by: Gref at June 05, 2021 10:20 AM (AMIL/)

5 Hiya KT !

Posted by: JT at June 05, 2021 10:21 AM (arJlL)

6 Hiya, JT!

Posted by: KT at June 05, 2021 10:21 AM (BVQ+1)

7 Lived experiences = false memories

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 10:21 AM (2DOZq)

8 TAKE-AWAY: Go long on machetes.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 05, 2021 10:22 AM (fLVm1)

9 Ignorant "leaders" controlling an ignorant populace.

Posted by: SMH at June 05, 2021 10:22 AM (XrnX7)

10 Top 20

Spooked a copperhead near the dump yesterday. It was one of the deadly kinds that don't wear a CV19 mask.

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 05, 2021 10:23 AM (oF9jz)

11 KumHola experienced her living in Canada attending an exclusive private school and living in the Beverly Hills of Montreal. If that doesnt spell oppression I dont know what does.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2021 10:24 AM (iJNVe)

12 (Rhodes) described his book as demonstrating to people the importance of letting go of the idea that it is inevitable that things are going to get better. Something he thought when he and his interviewer "were kids" and he was working for Obama.

Shorter book description: Abandon All Hope.

That will sell billions of copies, no doubt about it.

Posted by: Gref at June 05, 2021 10:24 AM (AMIL/)

13 Lived experience, as Critical Social Justice uses the term, refers more
specifically to one's life experiences in allegedly systemic power
dynamics of dominance and oppression that shape society structurally as
understood with a critical consciousness and interpreted through Theory.

*slaps down $2 on the table* Damn, they sure use their moufs purdy...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 05, 2021 10:26 AM (HaL55)

14 "the interpretation that Critical Social Justice Theory gives for the anecdotal accounts of experiences one has had"

And this is why we have the phrase, "the plural of 'anecdote' is NOT 'data'."

Posted by: GWB at June 05, 2021 10:27 AM (aDTsF)

15 One might think that the lived experience of a member of oppressed groups would be admissible as a valid challenge to the claims of Theory, but this not so.

******

What are you going to believe? Your own lying eyes or what MY lying eyes tell you to believe?

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 10:27 AM (m45I2)

16 Wut???

Posted by: lin-duh at June 05, 2021 10:28 AM (UUBmN)

17 Spooked a copperhead near the dump yesterday. It was one of the deadly kinds that don't wear a CV19 mask.
Posted by: callsign claymore

There wouldn't be any left, if their heads were really made of copper.

Posted by: JT at June 05, 2021 10:28 AM (arJlL)

18 Lived experience, as Critical Social Justice uses the term, refers more specifically to one's life experiences in allegedly systemic power dynamics of dominance and oppression that shape society structurally as understood with a critical consciousness and interpreted through Theory.

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EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: All of my shortcomings and failures are somebody else's fault.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 05, 2021 10:28 AM (fLVm1)

19 "Certainly, the claimed 'lived experience' of members of dominant groups cannot be in any way used to challenge or dispute the assertions of Theory or those claiming to speak from it . . ."

Which is why "A white person looked at me cross-eyed once" is OPPRESSION, but "every time I go to that part of town, black people beat me up and take my money" is RACISM.

Posted by: GWB at June 05, 2021 10:29 AM (aDTsF)

20 Wow. We are truly and completely screwed.
Read these excerpts and try and come to any other conclusion.

Posted by: DaisyB at June 05, 2021 10:30 AM (Hswbs)

21 Lived experience is like the word "anecdotal."

And for some reason the people who champion Lived Experience despise anecdotal.

"The plural of anecdotal is not Data!" I have heard this a number of times.

The problem with lived experience is that we don't see the world as it is, we see the world as we are.
These are the people who reject objectivism and embrace subjectivism, and fail to understand what they are embracing is their personal biases and prejudices.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2021 10:31 AM (u0j5n)

22 And because this is essential I will repeat myself:

We do not see the world as it is, we see the world as we are.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2021 10:33 AM (u0j5n)

23 epistemology - the study of knowing how we know what we know.

In a sane world this (epi) stems from not only reliance on our own senses (individual lived experience), and not only what we are told by others, but a synthesis of the two. One must be willing to look with a skeptical eye at both 1) what we know because we experienced it and 2) what we are told by others, and reconcile differences between the two in a consistent and testable way.

e.g. Mom says don't touch the hot stove. How do we KNOW that to be true or not?

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 10:33 AM (m45I2)

24 Ran out of gas, tractor that is

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2021 10:33 AM (Cxk7w)

25 Grandpa lost his white, privy arm in a Kentucky coal mine.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at June 05, 2021 10:33 AM (n/szn)

26 JT, true, what with the going rate for scrap metal.

Posted by: callsign claymore at June 05, 2021 10:34 AM (oF9jz)

27 I use to say, 10 years ago when I sometimes heard it
All Leftists Things Considered

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2021 10:34 AM (Cxk7w)

28 " I don't know, calmly and condescendingly magisterial or something."

That's exactly it. It's deliberate, intended to make their listeners feel high-brow.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 10:36 AM (83lwH)

29 Rejecting objectivism coincides with rejecting empiricism, hence anti-science?

Posted by: pawn at June 05, 2021 10:36 AM (UO32H)

30 There's a micro/macro thing going on with this "lived experience" concept that's all jacked up.

What I mean is, of COURSE how you perceive the world is based in large part on your lived experience. And so if you're struggling with all this, you have two basic options: Adjust your actions, work on your perceptions to try to live in this world, or... try to adjust the world to fit your perceptions.

Obviously one of those is doomed to failure, but it seems our culture has decided that's the way to go anyway.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 10:36 AM (NIUz2)

31 So many good spoofs came out of that Ben Rhodes clip!

Posted by: m at June 05, 2021 10:37 AM (fVJPF)

32 One can never have too much of the greatness that is Ella Fitzgerald and Satchmo Armstrong. Thanks, KT.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 05, 2021 10:38 AM (HaL55)

33 "same nationalism and authoritarianism that was tearing America apart"

No, it wasn't *nationalism* tearing the country apart. That's kind of an oxymoron. And the "authoritarianism" wasn't coming from the President (I know that's what they *mean*).

Posted by: GWB at June 05, 2021 10:38 AM (aDTsF)

34 Adjust your actions, work on your perceptions to try to live in this world, or... try to adjust the world to fit your perceptions. Obviously one of those is doomed to failure, but it seems our culture has decided that's the way to go anyway.
Posted by: BurtTC

****

This could be paraphrased as:

... if everybody you meet is an asshole, maybe you are the asshole.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 10:39 AM (m45I2)

35 The minute anyone starts talking of the wonders of the Castro Gang, I immediately know they are either dumb or manipulative liars. It's not like Batista was a pure lover of his fellow countrymen, but the Castro Gang has done nothing but impoverish everyone while becoming kings. If that's your idea of a model society, you are a despicable human being.

Posted by: azjaeger at June 05, 2021 10:39 AM (3/XaG)

36 Ben Rhodes needs to hang out with us and get his pussy ass stomped every fucking day. "I just can't put into words"; this is a guy promoting a book!

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 05, 2021 10:40 AM (y7DUB)

37 e.g. Mom says don't touch the hot stove. How do we KNOW that to be true or not?

I tried hard to teach my kids that people only learn from mistakes but smart people can learn from other people's mistakes and dumb people don't even learn from their own.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 05, 2021 10:40 AM (nfrXX)

38 "Lived Experience" and "My Truth" are more non-science from the Party of Science! (TM).

Those memes throw statistics away, and use singular events to get gullible people to believe crap like:
-- All Trump voters plan to violently overthrow the government,
-- All white cops try to kill every black they arrest or attempt to arrest,
-- Radiation from a nuclear power plant eventually kills all living things within a 1000 mile radius.

Posted by: Gref at June 05, 2021 10:41 AM (AMIL/)

39 Missed it my first time through the post:

Oprahssed!

Ha!

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 10:41 AM (m45I2)

40 NPR licks Sweddy Balls.

Posted by: Red and Black at June 05, 2021 10:42 AM (RK8iH)

41 Sometimes people who reject objective reality are just dumb and inward focused. These people also kill other drivers on the highway.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2021 10:42 AM (u0j5n)

42 e.g. Mom says don't touch the hot stove. How do we KNOW that to be true or not?
Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 10:33 AM (m45I2)

Another example is medicine. I go to the doctor and say "this is bothering me, doc." Doctor gives me medicine, based on the acquired knowledge from others, and says "this should work."

If I come back to the doc and say "it didn't work for me," obviously the doctor is going to have to consider my "lived experience" as part of the decision making on what comes next.

Now, it is very possible I'm a kook, or a drug seeking maniac, so clearly my "lived experience" can't and shouldn't trump the doc's acquired knowledge.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 10:42 AM (NIUz2)

43 You can slice the NPR smug like crostini and serve caviar on it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 05, 2021 10:43 AM (Dc2NZ)

44 Greetings:

One of the best bits of writing advise I ever got was "Be careful with your adjectives and adverbs."

The underlying idea was that if they didn't make the communication more exact then they should be foregone. For example, I give you "social justice" and you current favorite "lived experiences".

Thus, can there be unsocial justice or unloved experiences ???

Posted by: 11B40 at June 05, 2021 10:43 AM (evgyj)

45 28 " I don't know, calmly and condescendingly magisterial or something."

That's exactly it. It's deliberate, intended to make their listeners feel high-brow.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 10:36 AM (83lwH)

Charlie Rose talked like that, too.

Posted by: m at June 05, 2021 10:43 AM (fVJPF)

46 I use to say, 10 years ago when I sometimes heard it
All Leftists Things Considered
Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2021 10:34 AM (Cxk7w)

Morning Sedition
Polluted Air

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 05, 2021 10:43 AM (y7DUB)

47 Hello everyone

I'm back but need to clean up the house, company's coming.back

This type of thinking makes my head hurt. My best teachers are books. I guess "lived experience" is another way of making oneself ' god"

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at June 05, 2021 10:43 AM (IDhUW)

48 "the racism that fueled the backlash to America's first Black president"

Huh? He was elected TWICE lol

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 10:45 AM (83lwH)

49 Talk about a complete and utter biotch. AOC's family has refused to accept the money that matt walsh was trolling her with a go fund me for her grandmother to rebuild her house after AOC bitched that it was Trump's fault there was no money to rebuild after the hurricane in PR.

Go fund me sent him an email and said it was returning over $100,000 that was raised to help her rebuild her house.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 05, 2021 10:46 AM (JUOKG)

50 This type of thinking makes my head hurt. My best teachers are books. I
guess "lived experience" is another way of making oneself ' god"

Yup. They're their own gods, in whom they are well pleased.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 05, 2021 10:46 AM (HaL55)

51 It's really only the recent decades, the post-World War II era, where people started to take for granted that somehow we'd put that behind us.

*****

Ben Rhodes, born Nov. 14, 1977

The conceit of every generation, that THEY are the first ones to hold the key to fixing everything.

There's nothing new under the sun, kid.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 10:46 AM (m45I2)

52 This could be paraphrased as:

... if everybody you meet is an asshole, maybe you are the asshole.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 10:39 AM (m45I2)

But I can't BE an asshole, because I'm a gay transgendered lesbian black latinx paraplegic. With ADHD.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 10:46 AM (NIUz2)

53 Greetings:

@44 above

Should be "advice" not "advise".
Should be "your" and not "you"
Should be "unloved" and not "unloved".

Should be proofread before sending.

Posted by: 11B40 at June 05, 2021 10:47 AM (evgyj)

54 Lived experience is on off shoot of Presentism.

Also when this comes up I always like to quote Bum Phillips.

You fail all the time but you're not a failure until you start to blame others.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 10:47 AM (2DOZq)

55 SpaceX is making this boring

Posted by: Jean at June 05, 2021 10:47 AM (Xih1H)

56 Everything is race to the progs. That Gaylord was a disaster of a President doesn't seem possible to process in their tiny brains.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 05, 2021 10:48 AM (y7DUB)

57 48 "the racism that fueled the backlash to America's first Black president"

Huh? He was elected TWICE lol
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 10:45 AM (83lwH)

But he was not made dictator for life, and the US didn't become a one-party system. Because backlash.

Posted by: m at June 05, 2021 10:48 AM (fVJPF)

58 "That was the news for Parrots, and now, the news for Wombats. No Wombats were injured in an accident on the M1 today, when a lorry overturned..."

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 05, 2021 10:49 AM (HBlzO)

59 The conceit of every generation, that THEY are the first ones to hold the key to fixing everything.

There's nothing new under the sun, kid.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 10:46 AM (m45I2)

"We're the young generation, and we've got something to say!"

The Monkees , circa 1966.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 05, 2021 10:49 AM (PiwSw)

60 The minute anyone starts talking of the wonders of
the Castro Gang, I immediately know they are either dumb or manipulative
liars. It's not like Batista was a pure lover of his fellow countrymen,
but the Castro Gang has done nothing but impoverish everyone while
becoming kings. If that's your idea of a model society, you are a
despicable human being.
Posted by: azjaeger at June 05, 2021 10:39 AM (3/XaG)

One commentator, can't remember who for some reason, was going on about how Batista's goons were cruising the countryside to kidnap girls to work as prostitutes at the mafia casinos in Havana, and the US support for such a monster like Batista was proof of the US government's depravity

Now, the chances that the casinos couldn't find local talent in Havana is besides the point, but I did want to ask if he could produce names of the unfortunate victims, because I suspected that I could find more people kidnapped off the street and tortured in the last 40 years for suspicion of political activity and black marketing.
Does the priority of one crime erase the other? How should we rank them, by volume, age, or by allies?

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2021 10:49 AM (u0j5n)

61 It's amazing how blind the Left is. I just left a BSG forum where all the Lefties were striking a pose over a "racist" doctor and how it relates to America. But the doctor wasn't killing people of different races, he was killing religious people who didn't use Science because he thought the limited doses of vaxcine shouldn't be wasted on people who were anti-vax.

Not a single one of them saw this.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 10:49 AM (83lwH)

62 "Lived Experience" is the participation trophy when one has done nothing objectively admirable.

Bigotry of Low Expectations strikes again. Or is it Soft Racism ?

Posted by: Red and Black at June 05, 2021 10:50 AM (jKmMm)

63 Victor Orban > Barak Obama

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at June 05, 2021 10:50 AM (/aiGx)

64 Only thing NPR was good for was being the basis for Schweddy Balls.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 10:50 AM (2DOZq)

65 59 "We're the young generation, and we've got something to say!"

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 05, 2021 10:49 AM (PiwSw)

". . . Dad!"

Posted by: m at June 05, 2021 10:50 AM (fVJPF)

66 ..Spooked a copperhead near the dump yesterday. It was one of the deadly kinds that don't wear a CV19 mask. Posted by: callsign claymore at June 05, 2021 10:23 AM (oF9jz)

The Copperheads were pro-slavery Democrats in the Civil War era. Democrats who did everything they could, legal or not (especially *not*) to oppose Lincoln, defy his every decree and undermine his every order or action. Just like today's Democrats and Rinos did to President Trump.

Oh, and it's racist AF to say you "spooked" a copperhead. Who you callin' "spook", whait boyah?

/snrk

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at June 05, 2021 10:52 AM (QzJWU)

67 The conceit of every generation, that THEY are the first ones to hold the key to fixing everything.

There's nothing new under the sun, kid.
Posted by: Muldoon

"We're the young generation, and we've got something to say!"

The Monkees , circa 1966.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes

My all time favorite example of this is the current season when every HS graduation speech by the little darlings is so full of "Me do it!".

Hell, that's what two year olds say.

Posted by: Tonypete at June 05, 2021 10:52 AM (Rvt88)

68 If it was racist to hate Obama cuz he is black then it is racist to hate Trump cuz he is white.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2021 10:52 AM (iJNVe)

69 I'd like someone to explain to me the difference between my experiences and my lived experiences.
Are lived experiences more experiency than just experiences?
Can conservatives experience lived experiences, or are we only good for simple experiences?
Is this just another case of stupid language or is their something Marxist at base here?

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 10:53 AM (cSyAR)

70 Now, it is very possible I'm a kook, or a drug seeking maniac, so clearly my "lived experience" can't and shouldn't trump the doc's acquired knowledge.
Posted by: BurtTC

****

Yep. I think sane people understand that they are constantly having to update the information they receive, assess it, assign a level of trustworthiness to it (consider the source, compare and contrast with other sources, etc,) and reconcile it with other information they have received.

When that becomes too daunting, people can shut down their ability to adapt. (see also - face mask dogma)

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 10:53 AM (m45I2)

71 According to the left prior to Obama every president had 100% support. And only Obama had people not like him therefore racism.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2021 10:53 AM (iJNVe)

72 68 If it was racist to hate Obama cuz he is black then it is racist to hate Trump cuz he is white.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2021 10:52 AM (iJNVe)

"Trump is orange."

Posted by: m at June 05, 2021 10:53 AM (fVJPF)

73 Posted by: Red and Black at June 05, 2021 10:50 AM (jKmMm)

It is Paternalism. And it is ubiquitous within the ruling class in this country.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at June 05, 2021 10:53 AM (/aiGx)

74 "There wouldn't be any left, if their heads were really made of copper.

Posted by: JT"
-- Maybe we can convince meth heads that they are? Could help reduce the numbers.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at June 05, 2021 10:54 AM (HBlzO)

75 Quote of the current century

The demand for hate crimes exceed the supply.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 10:54 AM (2DOZq)

76 Should be proofread before sending.
~~~
And yet, it was understandable

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at June 05, 2021 10:55 AM (IDhUW)

77 KT, thank you for Ella and Louis.

I saw Ella at the Lake Geneva Playboy Club in 1968. She sang "Danke Schoen". One of the patrons asked her, "Spechen sie Deutsch?" She replied, "Sprechen sie Soul, brother."

Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 10:55 AM (XxJt1)

78

Re:SpaceX-boring

Jean, it's 1966 all over again.

Posted by: pawn at June 05, 2021 10:55 AM (UO32H)

79 Nothing illustrates the uselessness of the GOPe more than the continued funding of NPR.

Posted by: Jean at June 05, 2021 10:56 AM (Xih1H)

80 "that shape society structurally"

haha how conveniently vague and unprovable

"understood with a critical consciousness and interpreted through Theory"

Ya know, in old religions the priests would animal entrails onto an altar and interpret them. This sounds like that.

Also love how they needed to capitalize theory to give the word more Authority.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 10:56 AM (83lwH)

81 The obvious corrollary, if someone isn't White, then they obviously can't opine (or have an opinion) on Whitey Stuff.

"You're Black. How would you know?"

Something tells me, that this isn't well received by the "Heads we win tails you lose we're always right about everything" crowd, but I can assure you, it works well, and I encourage you to try it.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 05, 2021 10:57 AM (htrDF)

82 Go fund me sent him an email and said it was returning over $100,000 that was raised to help her rebuild her house.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 05, 2021 10:46 AM (JUOKG

I've observed that the left hates voluntary generosity and loves involuntary confiscation. Especially since they get to do the "redistribution" of the confiscated wealth.

Posted by: Emmie at June 05, 2021 10:58 AM (tcsxg)

83 Is this just another case of stupid language or is their something Marxist at base here?
Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 10:53 AM (cSyAR)

Yes, with an extra helping of feeelz, and a dose of will to achieve that would make a young pioneer jealous.

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2021 10:59 AM (u0j5n)

84 "Is this just another case of stupid language or is their something Marxist at base here?"

Same thing. The mutilation of language to divide (Tower of Babel parable) is one of the goals of Post Modern Neo Marxism.

That is our enemy.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:00 AM (83lwH)

85 "and the political futures of other Black women."
---

Other? These dahlings do realize the blackest thing about Kamwhora other than when Willie Brown was in her mouth is when her (not that long ago) ancestors owned slaves, yes? Wouldn't she by speaking of this in fact be, as the left like to say, stealing an identity from real black people?

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 11:00 AM (Ojki1)

86 Tomorrow belongs to me!

Posted by: Trigglypuff at June 05, 2021 11:00 AM (W4eKo)

87 I describe the Left as Functional Psychopaths.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 11:01 AM (2DOZq)

88 " but I can assure you, it works well, and I encourage you to try it."

Haha I'm going to try "when you talk about white culture you sound as stupid as white people talking about hiphop"

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:01 AM (83lwH)

89

Ah, the first "cancellation" of fag pervert month has occurred!

An ESPN employee that I'd never heard of named Kelly Stewart has been terminated (during "homosexual" month, of course) for long-DELETED tweets from 2012 for using the word "fag" and whatnot.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:02 AM (kRGzM)

90 Listening to NPR is detrimental to your health KT.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * no one named Sigmond in my family tree at June 05, 2021 11:02 AM (SL1fq)

91 Ya know, in old religions the priests would animal entrails onto an altar and interpret them. This sounds like that.

The old ways are the best ways. I propose we use Ben Rhodes for this.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 05, 2021 11:02 AM (HaL55)

92 Eric and Donald Trump Jr. want me to sign their father's "official birthday card". No, no mention of money so I assume they're gleaning promising email addresses.

As much as I believe in what Trump was trying to do I'm not sure I want to go there again. Frankly, I'm amazed that he's still as robust as ever. The last four years wore me out.

Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 11:03 AM (XxJt1)

93 "The demand for hate crimes exceed the supply."

Kid you not, I am on a forum where the SJWs are trying to get the term "female" banned for being dehumanizing.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:03 AM (83lwH)

94 "and the political futures of other Black women."

All I see are black women AG's and mayors from coast to coast

Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2021 11:03 AM (HrMC1)

95 12 (Rhodes) described his book as demonstrating to people the importance of letting go of the idea that it is inevitable that things are going to get better. Something he thought when he and his interviewer "were kids" and he was working for Obama.

Shorter book description: Abandon All Hope.

That will sell billions of copies, no doubt about it.
Posted by: Gref at June 05, 2021 10:24 AM (AMIL/)

Get ready for Misery Index 2: Candlelight boogaloo serfs! Cause Joe can't fix it, so lower your expectations. That should play well to Wine mom Karen- your gonna have to switch to the store brand, cause its gonna get worse.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 11:04 AM (Ojki1)

96 Nothing illustrates the uselessness of the GOPe more than the continued funding of NPR.
Posted by: Jean at June 05, 2021 10:56 AM (Xih1H)

Paul Ryan: budget slashing warrior.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 05, 2021 11:04 AM (y7DUB)

97 I've worked a long time with academics, scientists, and engineers.

CRT has the hallmark of many social "sciences" that try to make themselves important, when they aren't.

There are legitimate complicated areas of study, radiation effects on processors in low earth orbit is a handy example that I discuss most weeks with experts.

What they don't do is over-complicate the subject by making up words or trying to confuse the audience with linguistic gymnastics. If a "science" needs to have a paper that is purposely dense and difficult to understand, then it is clearly an intellectual sham trying to make the proponent "sound smart", when they are really a lightweight.

This is CRT, just another in a long list of psuedo-science for people trying to claim unearned value.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 05, 2021 11:04 AM (5p7BC)

98 3 Ben Rhodes needs a heaping helping of STFU.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at June 05, 2021 10:20 AM (fLVm1)

Unfortunately, we'll need to read this guy's book, and take what he has to say very, very seriously.
If NPR is plugging this book, you know that means that the news producers in the MSM are going to be mining the book for talking points to disseminate to the country through their reportage. We ignore this at our peril.

On another note, traveling through dozens of countries throughout the world is an expensive undertaking. I take it that he wasn't staying at youth hostels and using his Eurorail pass to get from place to place. I'd begin to look at the people who funded this escapade. They probably have an agenda that they want Mr. Rhodes to present to the world.

Again, we ignore this at our peril.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 05, 2021 11:05 AM (mdjgu)

99 All of this will be explained in my new book Experiential Living: the Experience of a Lifetime - an expert guide for experiencing in your own life the lived experiences of people who experienced life before you were even alive

Available July 1 from Time/Life Books and in video format on the Lifetime Network.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 11:05 AM (m45I2)

100 When that becomes too daunting, people can shut down their ability to adapt. (see also - face mask dogma)
Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 10:53 AM (m45I2)

Someone was telling me the other day, she was at a restaurant, where they prepare the food in front of the customers, you select all your ingredients by pointing to what you want, they assemble and grill it for you.

So she was at the bar, waiting for their turn, having drinks, when they were called to come to the grill area. She wasn't wearing a mask. Another customer freaked out, was calling management over and all that, because she wasn't wearing a mask. A full blown panic attack.

Now, at what point does it not occur to you that maybe YOU are the one with the problem, and maybe YOU shouldn't be at a restaurant that allows customers to not wear a face diaper at all times?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:05 AM (naMR+)

101 An ESPN employee that I'd never heard of named Kelly Stewart has been terminated (during "homosexual" month, of course) for long-DELETED tweets from 2012 for using the word "fag" and whatnot.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:02 AM (kRGzM)

Yeah but she claims she used the terms against misogynistic trolls who were threatened by women in men's sport's. Fuck her.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 11:06 AM (2DOZq)

102 "Lived experiences" is an offshoot or subset of "My Truth", a perversion or inversion of maybe 5,000 years of (multi-ethnic) inquiry into the nature of the universe.

That's what Science is about, objective truth, get right down to it. And that's what the leftists want to sever, is the shared reality. Reality doesn't apply to me if I don't believe it, or simply don't like it, but at the same time whatever nonsense I do believe is automatically "true"; in this sense any opinion has equal validity to established fact. Any idea is just as "good" as any other. If you're wondering why the world is batshit crazy, this is a big part of it.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 05, 2021 11:06 AM (htrDF)

103 "I'm not sure I want to go there again."

We finally get a President who does what he promised us he would do and you have doubts about voting him back into office?

452 miles of border wall built....

That's a bit frustrating. You're not looking to be betrayed by another McCain or Romney I hope. Like some kind of battered wife syndrome.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:06 AM (83lwH)

104 Can Rhodes give us specific examples of Trump's actual "authoritarianism?"

These people are so shallow and superficial. I think they see Trump having a rousing rally with a crowd of enthusiastic --but mostly--white people, not unlike a Springsteen concert, and they see Hitler at Nuremberg.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2021 11:08 AM (HrMC1)

105

btw, I was watching the "friday night tights" youtube stream and one of them mentioned an infamous incident from 2004 in Colorado, I think.

It's been dubbed "Killdozer." I do not remember this. In 2004, things weren't "viral" at internet light-speed, yet. And, this was one year before AoS became a part of my life, which is where I get all my news, as do all of you.

Anyway, this Disgruntled man in Colorado (?) built an A-Team style bulldozer and went on a destructive but non-lethal rampage. What's even funnier is if you do a googles search on killdozer, the very first thing you see is a current Fake News propaganda piece about how killdozer "inspired" "today's" "right wing."

Yeah, you and me were "inspired" by this 17-yr old event that we weren't even aware of!

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:09 AM (kRGzM)

106 ep. I think sane people understand that they are constantly having to update the information they receive, assess it, assign a level of trustworthiness to it (consider the source, compare and contrast with other sources, etc,) and reconcile it with other information they have received.

When that becomes too daunting, people can shut down their ability to adapt. (see also - face mask dogma)
~~~
Appreciate this comment.

It feels (sorry) like our society is losing common grace, which provided a solid basis for comparing right and wrong. Now that basis is no longer dominant in the public sphere and individuals must sort out for themselves what is right. Some look to God, some look to themselves, some go with the, now twisted, flow.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at June 05, 2021 11:09 AM (IDhUW)

107 Looking at the Opressed / Priveleged chart I see I dodged the bullt of monied oppression.

Posted by: tbodie at June 05, 2021 11:10 AM (VzbI8)

108
Yeah but she claims she used the terms against misogynistic trolls who were threatened by women in men's sport's. Fuck her.
Posted by: Just a side note

Yep, her "apology" was pathetic and disgusting. And I hope she's never employed again. She's a farkin' arsehole.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:10 AM (kRGzM)

109 48 "the racism that fueled the backlash to America's first Black president"

Huh? He was elected TWICE lol
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 10:45 AM (83lwH)

But the obviously demented white turnip "got" millions more votes. So obviously racism plays a part.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 11:10 AM (Ojki1)

110 Frankly, I'm amazed that he's still as robust as ever. The last four years wore me out.
Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 11:03 AM (XxJt1)

He seemed strengthened by being hated by the right people. Previous Presidents seemed prematurely aged by the office and he was energized by it. He made the ruling class look like underachieving dumbasses.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 05, 2021 11:10 AM (y7DUB)

111 This is CRT, just another in a long list of psuedo-science for people trying to claim unearned value.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 05, 2021 11:04 AM (5p7BC)

It's really not even a pseudo-science. It was a scam from the start. A way for con artists to go into willing and/or gullible businesses, and "teach" them how they are badwrong for their rayciss ways.

And it worked precisely because the willing and gullible didn't want to be considered rayciss by telling these people to f**k off. So we're doing an Emperor's New Clothes theater act, writ large across the entire culture.

Yay us.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:10 AM (naMR+)

112 I can no longer get my jollies over videos of a shell-shocked Rhodes--or blubbering Hillary voters --on Election Night 2016, since they stole the 2020 election from us.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2021 11:11 AM (HrMC1)

113 "What they don't do is over-complicate the subject by making up words or trying to confuse the audience with linguistic gymnastics."

Trying to make a new Fen's Law about that but I can't put my thoughts into words to describe the vague unprovable word salad nature of it.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:11 AM (83lwH)

114 Well. Hell. Gotta HOA meeting.
This'll be fun. Not.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 05, 2021 11:11 AM (axyOa)

115 Watching the clip of Ben R., it occurs to me that, for an insider like him, it would be impossible for him to put his feelings into words, because he didn't dare utter the truth of why he knew it should not have happened: because the fix was in to such a degree that it should have been impossible for the Bad Orange Man to beat the hildebeast's margin of cheating that he knew was happening. Poor widdle thing.

It warms the cockles of my black heart.

Posted by: Appycay at June 05, 2021 11:11 AM (QQpUq)

116
Eric and Donald Trump Jr. want me to sign their father's "official birthday card". No, no mention of money so I assume they're gleaning promising email addresses.

Posted by: creeper

It's probably an fbi/democrat op to compile a list.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:12 AM (kRGzM)

117 49 Talk about a complete and utter biotch. AOC's family has refused to accept the money that matt walsh was trolling her with a go fund me for her grandmother to rebuild her house after AOC bitched that it was Trump's fault there was no money to rebuild after the hurricane in PR.

Go fund me sent him an email and said it was returning over $100,000 that was raised to help her rebuild her house.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 05, 2021 10:46 AM (JUOKG)

"I want grandma to suffer so I have a cause while getting tons of donated clothes and living in a posh apartment." Really caring person there. Wonder if she fly to PR to tell grandma this to her face. Bet grandma whop her ass.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 11:12 AM (Ojki1)

118 The people in the legacy media are scum
Every
Last
One
Of
Them

Posted by: Uncle Rick at June 05, 2021 11:12 AM (48/MM)

119 That's a bit frustrating. You're not looking to be betrayed by another McCain or Romney I hope. Like some kind of battered wife syndrome.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:06 AM (83lwH)

No, I'm not about to give serious consideration to either of those traitors.

I think I'm just hoping for someone who can get the job done without the drama. And the fail with Fauxi really bothers me.

Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 11:13 AM (XxJt1)

120 Only thing NPR was good for was being the basis for Schweddy Balls.
Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 10:50 AM (2DOZq)

That must be an SNL term because it doesn't mean a damn thing to me.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 05, 2021 11:13 AM (y7DUB)

121 "the racism that fueled the backlash to America's first Black president"

Huh? He was elected TWICE lol
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 10:45 AM (83lwH)

I'm convinced that part of the reason they REALLY wanted to STEAL 2020 from us was to vindicate Obama.
Remember Van Jones saying that Trump's victory in 2016 was a total "repudiation" of our black president?

Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2021 11:13 AM (HrMC1)

122 "Can Rhodes give us specific examples of Trump's actual "authoritarianism?"

Nah it's all Assertion By Adjective.

"The dangerous and divisive attacks of Jan 6th..."

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:14 AM (83lwH)

123 You can slice the NPR smug like crostini and serve caviar on it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at June 05, 2021 10:43 AM (Dc2NZ)

Smugness that just begs a nut punch.

Posted by: BignJames at June 05, 2021 11:14 AM (AwYPR)

124 Candlelight boogaloo serfs!

Gonna wear my Hawaiian shirt today.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * proud of my freckles at June 05, 2021 11:14 AM (SL1fq)

125 That's what Science is about, objective truth, get right down to it. And
that's what the leftists want to sever, is the shared reality. Reality
doesn't apply to me if I don't believe it, or simply don't like
it, but at the same time whatever nonsense I do believe is automatically
"true"; in this sense any opinion has equal validity to
established fact. Any idea is just as "good" as any other. If you're
wondering why the world is batshit crazy, this is a big part of it.

The single most destructive phrase ever heard from one of Stan's beasts' screens is, "It's not a lie if you believe it." IMO, this is the line of demarcation that separates educated, egomaniacal imbeciles from the rest of normal humanity. Not unlike the Oxford Comma...

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 05, 2021 11:14 AM (HaL55)

126
new vid by JP

https://youtu.be/HCkx_x9FLJ8

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:14 AM (kRGzM)

127 Get ready for Misery Index 2: Candlelight boogaloo serfs! Cause Joe can't fix it, so lower your expectations. That should play well to Wine mom Karen- your gonna have to switch to the store brand, cause its gonna get worse.
Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 11:04 AM (Ojk

I am looking forward to the resurgence of 'generic' food.

...looks at plain white can with bold black letter...

Mmmmm "BEER".

Posted by: Red and Black at June 05, 2021 11:14 AM (VAqUc)

128 KT - thank you for doing the work of listening to NPR 'so we don't have to.'. We spend a lot of time at AoSHQ discussing things that are happening, but this important post is discussing things that will happen.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 05, 2021 11:15 AM (mdjgu)

129 118
Every
Last
One
Of
Them
Posted by: Uncle Rick at June 05, 2021 11:12 AM (48/MM)

That makes an interesting acronym.

Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 11:15 AM (XxJt1)

130 Yale bitch from Detroit Country Day (preppy) who wants to kill whites. She needs to lose her medical license for expressing such strong homicidal ideation against a group. She's busy blaming people who released the "talk" and not herself.

-
The first rule of racist hate mongering is you don't talk about racist hate mongering.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 11:15 AM (d9FiS)

131 Another element of the "lived experience" touched on above is reminiscent of the human microphone technique (remember Occupy Wall Street?). If a person in an officially Oppressed Group hasn't had the lived experience themselves, they are told that their lived experience alone isn't valid, and that they must tap into the lived experience of the larger Oppressed Group.

Grievance Amplification if you will.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 11:15 AM (m45I2)

132 114 Well. Hell. Gotta HOA meeting.
This'll be fun. Not.

If you wanna really understand why socialism fails every time, just go to an HOA meeting.

Posted by: Uncle Rick at June 05, 2021 11:16 AM (48/MM)

133 Ehhhh since you've reminded us that Ben Rhodes exists; I shall point out, FUCK THAT GUY.

Hundreds of thousands raped, tortured, brutally executed, or sold into chattel slavery as a direct result of him and his dipshit peers.

You know what idea he needs to give up on? The idea that we're not going to line ditches with fucking commies.

Ain't nobody going to be bitching about lived experiences if they're not living them anymore. And it will come to that, sooner or later - these fuckwits have cemented it.

Posted by: somedood at June 05, 2021 11:16 AM (P69fT)

134 Eric and Donald Trump Jr. want me to sign their father's "official birthday card". No, no mention of money so I assume they're gleaning promising email addresses.

Posted by: creeper

It's probably an fbi/democrat op to compile a list.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:12 AM (kRGzM)

My mother gets text messages all the time, stuff like "Donald Trump is counting on YOU to sign this thing which is supposed to accomplish this thing that you obviously want to accomplish... if you love Donald Trump... you DO love Donald Trump... don't you???"

Sorry mom, you obviously gave out your number to some scammer. Just delete the messages. They're not from Donald Trump. Trust me on this.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:16 AM (naMR+)

135 new vid by JP

https://youtu.be/HCkx_x9FLJ8
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:14 AM (kRGzM)

Fuck him too, he's a NeverTrumper asshole.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2021 11:16 AM (HrMC1)

136 In the NPR interview, Rhodes declares that democracy is on the wane in many other countries, such as Hong Kong and Hungary. He didn't go into details about Hong Kong, but implied that Trump is sort of like Hungary's Orban.

Progressives don't like Hungary because the government is explicitly Christian, says so out loud, and also says out loud that they want to preserve Hungary's Christian heritage and culture.

Hungary also refused to accept "refugees" from Syria and other Muslim countries, so it's anathema to progressives.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:17 AM (Rkcch)

137 HOA meeting

Herd of assholes

Posted by: Sock Monkey * proud of my freckles at June 05, 2021 11:17 AM (SL1fq)

138 Well. Hell. Gotta HOA meeting.
This'll be fun. Not.
Posted by: Diogenes

*****

I sure hope you didn't paint your downspouts an unapproved color!

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 11:19 AM (m45I2)

139
Fuck him too, he's a NeverTrumper asshole.
Posted by: JoeF.

He does the Black Pill "both sides are bad" bulllshit, sometimes, but not as much anymore.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:19 AM (kRGzM)

140 It becomes more and more obvious to me with the passing of each and every depressing day that 2016 was a complete one-off that won't be repeated again.

The Left and Deep State and both political parties have too much at stake to ever again leave it up to the actual voters.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2021 11:19 AM (HrMC1)

141 "Herd of assholes"

LOL! Between that and "hall sex" y'all have provided me with enough laughs to last the weekend.

Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 11:19 AM (XxJt1)

142 If you wanna really understand why socialism fails every time, just go to an HOA meeting.

Posted by: Uncle Rick at June 05, 2021 11:16 AM (48/MM)

If you want to see small-minded, petty tyranny in action close up, there's no better example than your local HOA.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:19 AM (Rkcch)

143 Only thing NPR was good for was being the basis for Schweddy Balls.
Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 10:50 AM (2DOZq)

That must be an SNL term because it doesn't mean a damn thing to me.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 05, 2021 11:13 AM (y7DUB)

All I know is, once upon a time SNL did a recurring sketch that was a parody of NPR. It was actually funny.

This was many years ago, obviously.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:19 AM (naMR+)

144 86 Tomorrow belongs to me!
Posted by: Trigglypuff at June 05, 2021 11:00 AM (W4eKo)

And the day after, me, so we can get you that quadruple bypass.

Posted by: Trigglypuff's Cardiologist at June 05, 2021 11:19 AM (Ojki1)

145 120 Only thing NPR was good for was being the basis for Schweddy Balls.
Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 10:50 AM (2DOZq)

That must be an SNL term because it doesn't mean a damn thing to me.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 05, 2021 11:13 AM (y7DUB)

It's a pretty funny sketch, featuring Alec Baldwin way before he became that stupid DJT parody. Idiotic politics, but he's an excellent comic actor, IMO. He made.the transition from heartthrob leading man to outstanding supporting actor to great comedic actor in a way that most actors would envy.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 05, 2021 11:20 AM (mdjgu)

146 Huh. I am so old I remember when refusing medical care to individuals or groups based on political, ethnic, or religious beliefs was prosecuted as a crime against humanity.

Good think we don't have to worry about that any more!

Posted by: Kindltot at June 05, 2021 11:20 AM (u0j5n)

147 Remember Van Jones saying that Trump's victory in 2016 was a total "repudiation" of our black president

Remember Van Jones is a fucking idiot. This is the problem. Or maybe he doesn't actually believe what he's selling. What's worse? Or does it matter?

For people where "race" is everything, it permeates everything. It isn't possible that people dislike or disagree with his policies or politics, no, the only possible reason is they dislike his race, and there's yer problem. At the same time, since Whitey is inherently racisty racists who are deplorable and systemically racist, by definition Whitey Politics is always racisty racist.

There is a certain Tinkerbell "logic" to their fairy tale worldview, once you understand it it's easy to follow.

Posted by: Common Tater at June 05, 2021 11:20 AM (htrDF)

148 He does the Black Pill "both sides are bad" bulllshit, sometimes, but not as much anymore.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:19 AM (kRGzM)

He's just smart enough to realize that he'll sell more books if he cut that out

Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2021 11:20 AM (HrMC1)

149 "I think I'm just hoping for someone who can get the job done without the drama."

Okay, I guess. Liberty must include the freedom to hope for that. It just sounds too close to the Tone and Civility complaints we get from the NeverTrumpers.

In my book, we finally got our Paladin, I'm not going to dismiss him and wait for another with more elegant armor.

Because I don't think another one is coming. It's not the Dems who are our opposition on this, it's Establishment Wings (E) of both Dems and the GOP. And they have the power to make sure Mr Smith never makes it to DC.

I'm just happy to have a fighter who has proven he will keep Faith with us. I like DeSantis but I felt the same about Bush, McCain and (damnit) Romney.

You don't turn your back on a suire thing.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:21 AM (83lwH)

150 Someone was telling me the other day, she was at a restaurant, where they prepare the food in front of the customers, you select all your ingredients by pointing to what you want, they assemble and grill it for you.

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Sounds like the Genghis Grill. (Khan you dig it?)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 11:21 AM (d9FiS)

151 https://youtu.be/HCkx_x9FLJ8
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:14 AM (kRGzM)

Fuck him too, he's a NeverTrumper asshole.
Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2021 11:16 AM (HrMC1)

People around here seem to think he's funny. I'm not sure why.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:21 AM (naMR+)

152 technically, I think ugly Markle is a Duchess, but prolly someone upthread noted this little insignificant factoid.
the royals have always been cartoons to me so meh

Posted by: kallisto at June 05, 2021 11:21 AM (DJFLF)

153 nobody under the age of 60 has enough "Lived Experience" about anything to know jack shit.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2021 11:22 AM (trdmm)

154 Wait.
America's first black president?
That was Bill Clinton.
All the leftists at the time said so.

Posted by: Stonn at June 05, 2021 11:22 AM (xP36F)

155 Sparkle Markle

Posted by: kallisto at June 05, 2021 11:22 AM (DJFLF)

156
Remember Van Jones is a fucking idiot. This is the problem. Or maybe he doesn't actually believe what he's selling. What's worse? Or does it matter?

He may be a fuckin' idiot, but I quoted him because his words are illustrative of what his entire SIDE believes.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 05, 2021 11:22 AM (HrMC1)

157 93 "The demand for hate crimes exceed the supply."

Kid you not, I am on a forum where the SJWs are trying to get the term "female" banned for being dehumanizing.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:03 AM (83lwH)

Fine, use XX instead. Watch little heads explode while saying you can define people by sex. While they are often assuming gender when talking about people who never explicitly told them what gender they identify as. I mean really, who can say what Marx would define as in today's mess? So use XY when talking of XY.

I'd be like that Scanners scene everywhere.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 11:23 AM (Ojki1)

158 Someone was telling me the other day, she was at a restaurant, where they prepare the food in front of the customers, you select all your ingredients by pointing to what you want, they assemble and grill it for you.

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Sounds like the Genghis Grill. (Khan you dig it?)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 11:21 AM (d9FiS)

Yes, I believe you are correct. Never been there myself, sounds too much like work to me.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:24 AM (naMR+)

159 "Lived experience" means you're never wrong due to that filter, so you can never be held accountable. For anything.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at June 05, 2021 11:24 AM (SchxB)

160 Progressives don't like Hungary because the government is explicitly Christian, says so out loud, and also says out loud that they want to preserve Hungary's Christian heritage and culture.

Hungary also refused to accept "refugees" from Syria and other Muslim countries, so it's anathema to progressives.

Yeah, right now there's more sanity in much of Eastern Europe than there is in the rest of the West combined.

I used to be able to listen to NPR, but lately they simply assume so much that fundamentally is not true that I usually find myself stabbing at the button within five minutes.

Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2021 11:24 AM (8erNz)

161 I get to listen to CBC FM, if I wanted to, but not NPR.
I assume they all speak with FM DJ voices.

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 11:25 AM (cSyAR)

162 I overheard a coworker saying the latest #woke-itude is that bread is racist because white people can't eat it.

Posted by: kallisto at June 05, 2021 11:25 AM (DJFLF)

163 The single most destructive phrase ever heard from one of Stan's beasts' screens is, "It's not a lie if you believe it." IMO, this is the line of demarcation that separates educated, egomaniacal imbeciles from the rest of normal humanity. Not unlike the Oxford Comma...
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 05, 2021 11:14 AM (HaL55)

Remember, the character who made that line famous was George Costanza.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2021 11:25 AM (trdmm)

164 "The single most destructive phrase ever heard from one of Stan's beasts' screens is, "It's not a lie if you believe it."

Yah, the SJWs trying to ban the word "female" insisted it's an adjective not a noun...

I threw Websters and Oxford dictionaries at them to no avail.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:25 AM (83lwH)

165 NPR is written and produced by liberal, wealthy, East coast Jewish women for liberal, wealthy, East coast Jewish women. (No, I am not being anti-Semitic. I am probably one of the most pro-Jewish, pro-Israel shiksas around here.)

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at June 05, 2021 11:26 AM (/7+9I)

166 An ESPN employee that I'd never heard of named Kelly Stewart

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Fuck him. Or her or them or it or us or . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 11:27 AM (d9FiS)

167 159 "Lived experience" means you're never wrong due to that filter, so you can never be held accountable. For anything.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at June 05, 2021 11:24 AM (SchxB)

So Lebron's lived experience is slavery and the threat of murder by a white cop whenever he leaves his mansion. I think I get it, or do I?

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 11:27 AM (cSyAR)

168 If you wanna really understand why socialism fails every time, just go to an HOA meeting.

Posted by: Uncle Rick at June 05, 2021 11:16 AM (48/MM)

If you want to see small-minded, petty tyranny in action close up, there's no better example than your local HOA.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:19 AM (Rkcch)

This is why I can't take the so-called serious anarchists seriously. The HOA seems to be their template.

How am I better off with a tyranny closer to home, than I am with the one in DC and/or my state capitol?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:27 AM (naMR+)

169 In Women's College World Series news, Montana Fouts pitched a perfect game--the first in 21 years, as Alabama defeated UCLA 6-0 last night.

http://bitly.ws/dTJp

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 05, 2021 11:28 AM (sWM8x)

170 Did The Supremacist's make a 2A ruling yesterday? Pray tell...

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 05, 2021 11:28 AM (7Fj9P)

171 NPR tries to fashion themselves as the wartime BBC. Avuncular, authoritative, a tad condescending (because you know we're better than you) and dismissive of anyone else's opinion.

If they could get away with a British accent they would do it.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 11:28 AM (gHWbw)

172 Anyone want to bet that if the Gope takes the House next year that NPR will continue to be funded?

Regardless of who is Speaker.

No takers?

Posted by: I mean at June 05, 2021 11:28 AM (bZs8Y)

173 Yes, I believe you are correct. Never been there myself, sounds too much like work to me.

Mongolian BBQ can be good but Genghis Grill is overpriced, IMO.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 05, 2021 11:29 AM (nfrXX)

174 If the country is now, and has been from the founding, horribly racist, how come the first black president didn't do nothing about it? Or is that a question no one is allowed to Ask?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 05, 2021 11:29 AM (kTF2Z)

175 334 I wonder if NPR is all over this story about rapey UN "peacekeepers":

https://tinyurl.com/yxyetmcx

Posted by: kallisto at June 05, 2021 11:29 AM (DJFLF)

176 159 "Lived experience" means you're never wrong due to that filter, so you can never be held accountable. For anything.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at June 05, 2021 11:24 AM (SchxB)

In progressive jargon, "lived experience" is like "systemic". It's an admission that they don't have any actual evidence.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:29 AM (Rkcch)

177 NPR is written and produced by liberal, wealthy, East coast Jewish women for liberal, wealthy, East coast Jewish women. (No, I am not being anti-Semitic. I am probably one of the most pro-Jewish, pro-Israel shiksas around here.)
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at June 05, 2021 11:26 AM (/7+9I)

I listened to a few of their podcasts, called Serial(?), where they take a subject and deep dive into it for weeks at a time.

One year they did one on Beau Berghdal. Another was about some kid in Baltimore, of middle eastern descent, who was convicted of killing his Korean-descent ex-girlfriend.

Not sure where that case is now. The whole season was about how the justice system seems to have let him down. Except yeah, the evidence indicates he almost certainly DID kill her.

Interesting "story" though.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:31 AM (naMR+)

178 how come the first black president didn't do nothing about it? Or is that a question no one is allowed to Ask?

As long as *one* Republican, or Libertarian, or Conservative, or infidel who doesn't accept #Woke scripture exists, "equity" between the races will not occur.

Catch my drift?

Posted by: kallisto at June 05, 2021 11:31 AM (DJFLF)

179 Mongolian BBQ can be good but Genghis Grill is overpriced, IMO.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 05, 2021 11:29 AM (nfrXX)

I think most cities have at least one or two locally owned Mongolian BBQ joints. They're generally pretty good, I've found.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:31 AM (Rkcch)

180 "I sure hope you didn't paint your downspouts an unapproved color!"

You joke but (I forget the exact color) we had to repaint our front door Seafoam Green 5 because it was Seafoam Green 4. I swear I can't tell the difference.

If I ever get a 6 months of life left warning from the Doc, that's my first stop.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:31 AM (83lwH)

181 I get to listen to CBC FM, if I wanted to, but not NPR.
I assume they all speak with FM DJ voices.

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 11:25 AM (cSyAR)

It's more like the voice of a young academic, trying to teach you something that they don't really understand, but doing it with tremendous confidence.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 05, 2021 11:31 AM (uhPTO)

182 So Lebron's lived experience is slavery and the threat of murder by a white cop whenever he leaves his mansion. I think I get it, or do I?

He thinks he's experienced slavery. Due to the people making his products he sort of has, but more from the side of the slave owner. The cop thing is his own paranoia. But that's his lived experience, a pampered delusional pussy ass bitch.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at June 05, 2021 11:32 AM (SchxB)

183 Did The Supremacist's make a 2A ruling yesterday? Pray tell...
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 05, 2021 11:28 AM (7Fj9P)

Yeah some Hispanic white supremacist judge had the nerve to slap down an unconstitutional regulation of a Right of the People and all the left had megrims and fantods over the nerve of him. Who does he think he is?

Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 11:32 AM (gHWbw)

184 Yeah, right now there's more sanity in much of Eastern Europe than there is in the rest of the West combined.

In the late 70s when I started reading Eastern European samizdat I was convinced they'd be an outpost of sanity for the continent. Little did I anticipate how far we'd fall...

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 05, 2021 11:32 AM (y7DUB)

185 Remember, the character who made that line famous was George Costanza.

Oh yeah. IIRC, it was one of the Top 5 TV shows at the time. That bullshit phrase lodged itself in the minds of waaaay too many people, so much so that they believed it themselves.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 05, 2021 11:32 AM (HaL55)

186
Now, at what point does it not occur to you that maybe YOU are the one with the problem, and maybe YOU shouldn't be at a restaurant that allows customers to not wear a face diaper at all times?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:05 AM (naMR+)

Half Price Books, which was all screaming maskzi, had a sign that surprised me where they said full vaxed don't need masks (and they ain't checking) but you are welcome to wear one if you aren't vaxed or don't feel comfortable being around a crowd of people- or words to that effect. I'm guessing a fair number of their regular crowd is pissed that the symbol of loyalty to Det Fauch-er isn't being demanded.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 11:32 AM (Ojki1)

187 Lived experience is what might have happened to you if you had ever actually had anything remotely interesting happen to you.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 11:32 AM (m45I2)

188 Oregon Muse, it's so nice to see you posting again. I hope your latest ouchie doesn't hurt *too* bad...

Posted by: kallisto at June 05, 2021 11:32 AM (DJFLF)

189 "Lived experience" is when you are the hero of a comic book that you wrote inside your own head.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 11:33 AM (m45I2)

190 "had the nerve to slap down an unconstitutional regulation"

kicker is he gave CA 30 days to appeal, to the unconstitutional law is still in effect.

I guess that's SOP?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:35 AM (83lwH)

191 This is why I can't take the so-called serious anarchists seriously. The HOA seems to be their template.

How am I better off with a tyranny closer to home, than I am with the one in DC and/or my state capitol?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:27 AM (naMR+)

Mel Gibson's character in 'The Patriot' asked the same question: "Why is one tyrant 3000 miles away worse than 3000 tyrants one mile away?"

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:35 AM (Rkcch)

192 Is there a dryer that has an auxiliary tennis shoe lock ?

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2021 11:35 AM (8o8kf)

193 "an academic phrase"

There is nothing "academic" about "lived experiences" or any of the other pomo progressive jargon. It's all pure horseshit, based on feelz, with polysyllabic robo-embellishment.

Posted by: Preparing gp For Lazy Loading at June 05, 2021 11:36 AM (qpX6U)

194 I can say that my experience with local police has been pretty good. But I don't think I can say my lived experience with local police has been good, even though I lived through those experiences I felt were pretty good.

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 11:36 AM (cSyAR)

195
Hey, OM.
Long time, no see.

Glad to see you.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 11:36 AM (kRGzM)

196 Lived experience is what occurs at the exact time you're sure you're going to die.

Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 11:36 AM (XxJt1)

197 Did The Supremacist's make a 2A ruling yesterday? Pray tell...

Don't see anything on Scotusblog. Any details? Apparently a federal judge made a ruling against CA's "Assault Weapon Ban" yesterday. It was mentioned with a link to a news story in the coffee thread. Could that be what you mean?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 05, 2021 11:36 AM (nfrXX)

198 "Lived Experience" is just shorthand for facts don't matter, truth doesn't matter, whatever I believe is My Truth, and your silly rules, laws, reality down to the granular subatomic level don't apply to me.

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Common Tater at June 05, 2021 11:36 AM (htrDF)

199 ""Why is one tyrant 3000 miles away worse than 3000 tyrants one mile away?"

Because you have to travel 2999 more miles to kill them?

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:37 AM (83lwH)

200 Now, at what point does it not occur to you that maybe YOU are the one with the problem, and maybe YOU shouldn't be at a restaurant that allows customers to not wear a face diaper at all times?

It won't happen. IMO, the Karen Syndrome is indicative of permanent psychological damage.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 05, 2021 11:37 AM (W4eKo)

201 This stuff about blacks and their imaginary past goes back further than you know.

Lived in a communal house in New Haven CT (home of Yale U.) lots of students. One day there was a discussion and a comment was made about slavery or something and some black girl (privileged Yale student so her folks had some bucks or influence or both) piped up about she could tell us all about slavery.

I looked at her and said "when was the last time YOU were a slave? Or a parent?" She just gaped at me like who was I too question her bonifides as too oppression. The skin made her a slave and that gave her an assumed higher rating for her opinion. Just because she was Black.

Needless to say I was not looked on with fondness at that place. I was always surprised they let a working man in their little clubhouse. Probably were looking at me as a token redneck or something. Plus I did bring in the money. No problems paying my dues and rent. Unlike some of the other students. Rich people are the worst for paying their bills. Trust me on this.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 11:37 AM (gHWbw)

202 188 Oregon Muse, it's so nice to see you posting again. I hope your latest ouchie doesn't hurt *too* bad...
Posted by: kallisto at June 05, 2021 11:32 AM (DJFLF)

Thank you. Yes, I'm healing, but I have to be careful. If I bump my arm on the incision point, it may start bleeding again. I found that out the hard way a couple of days ago.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:38 AM (Rkcch)

203 Nothing illustrates the uselessness of the GOPe more than the continued funding of NPR.
Posted by: Jean

And what of the confirmation of Biden's crazy ass nominations?

P.S. Didja see that Assistant Secretary of Health Dr. "Rachel" Levine is concerned about our mental health?

https://bit.ly/3vX1gI7

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 11:38 AM (d9FiS)

204 I'm asking cause I've been watering with my big watering rig
and my shoes are soaked

and I've got some MIG welding to do

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2021 11:39 AM (8o8kf)

205 He is a leader among a rising generation of international leaders! Bringing America Together to fulfill her destiny!

Ben is going to be shocked when 'fulfill her destiny' turns out to be God's Judgement.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 05, 2021 11:39 AM (W+e0y)

206 Another customer freaked out, was calling management over and all that, because she wasn't wearing a mask. A full blown panic attack.

****

Awww! She was just sharing her livid experience!

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 11:39 AM (m45I2)

207 Now, at what point does it not occur to you that maybe YOU are the one with the problem, and maybe YOU shouldn't be at a restaurant that allows customers to not wear a face diaper at all times?
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It won't happen. IMO, the Karen Syndrome is indicative of permanent psychological damage.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at June 05, 2021 11:37 AM (W4eKo)

I think that's likely correct. They can't freak out, if they don't go out in public where they can enjoy the experience of freaking out on everyone else.

That's a fundamental part of the kink.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:39 AM (naMR+)

208 All Things Distorted

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2021 11:39 AM (63Dwl)

209 I'm still a tad unclear on why my lived experiences aren't also valid.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory? The $2 Drug that Cracked COVID at June 05, 2021 11:40 AM (9nwlC)

210 I guess that's SOP?
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:35 AM (83lwH)

Actually I think he made it permanent and went into effect immediately.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 11:40 AM (gHWbw)

211 203:P.S. Didja see that Assistant Secretary of Health Dr. "Rachel" Levine is concerned about our mental health?

You mean some guy in a dress and thinks he's a chick is concerned about our mental health? It's a post truth world now.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 05, 2021 11:41 AM (W+e0y)

212 211 203

.S. Didja see that Assistant Secretary of Health Dr. "Rachel" Levine is concerned about our mental health?

That's kind of funny.

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 11:42 AM (cSyAR)

213 197 Did The Supremacist's make a 2A ruling yesterday? Pray tell...

Don't see anything on Scotusblog. Any details?
---
US District Court judge Roger Benitez overturned California's 32 year-old ban of AR-15's.

http://bitly.ws/dTKG

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at June 05, 2021 11:42 AM (sWM8x)

214 NPR is the poster child for "burn it down, scatter the stones, salt the earth where it stood".

Posted by: tsj017 at June 05, 2021 11:42 AM (zxrPN)

215 209 I'm still a tad unclear on why my lived experiences aren't also valid.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory? The $2 Drug that Cracked COVID at June 05, 2021 11:40 AM (9nwlC)

Because you're a white guy, so shut up.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:43 AM (Rkcch)

216 Now, at what point does it not occur to you that maybe YOU are the one with the problem, and maybe YOU shouldn't be at a restaurant that allows customers to not wear a face diaper at all times?

***

It's incredible how accurate the "if you meet one jerk, you met one jerk. If everyone you meet is a jerk, YOU'RE the jerk" observation is.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory? The $2 Drug that Cracked COVID at June 05, 2021 11:43 AM (9nwlC)

217 . Didja see that Assistant Secretary of Health Dr. "Rachel" Levine is concerned about our mental health?

******

He and I share the same alma mater.

So I know what's-a mater wit him!

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 11:43 AM (m45I2)

218 Read down to here, other than say we are living in a twilight zone can't think of anything.

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2021 11:43 AM (Cxk7w)

219 Assistant Secretary of Health Dr. "Rachel" Levine is concerned about our mental health

As am I.

Posted by: Zombie Jeffery Dahmer at June 05, 2021 11:44 AM (W4eKo)

220 212 211 203.S. Didja see that Assistant Secretary of Health Dr. "Rachel" Levine is concerned about our mental health?

That's kind of funny.

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 11:42 AM (cSyAR)

It's like getting economic advice from Paul Krugman.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:44 AM (Rkcch)

221 "Actually I think he made it permanent and went into effect immediately."

I don't know how to do tiny URLs but the quote is: "the judge said he had granted a 30-day stay of the ruling at the request of Attorney General Rob Bonta, a move that would allow Mr. Bonta to appeal it."

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:44 AM (83lwH)

222 kallisto anything further on your remodel project?

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2021 11:45 AM (Cxk7w)

223 He and I share the same alma mater.

So I know what's-a mater wit him!

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 11:43 AM (m45I2)

Was he always a whack job?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:45 AM (Rkcch)

224 I'm still a tad unclear on why my lived experiences aren't also valid.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory? The $2 Drug that Cracked COVID at June 05, 2021 11:40 AM (9nwlC)

Because you're a white guy, so shut up.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:43 AM (Rkcch)

No no, your lived experience CAN be valid. It just has to be the lived experience of your privilege, for which you must never stop apologizing.

Your lived experience is then an essential part of this great circle of life.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:45 AM (naMR+)

225 Because you're a white guy, so shut up.

***

(Nods in agreement when the HR department's mandatory diversity training explains how single story mud huts are exactly like the Parthenon, secretly suspects that this isn't the best way to try and counter white supremacy)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory? The $2 Drug that Cracked COVID at June 05, 2021 11:46 AM (9nwlC)

226 testing tiny url re 30 day stay of 2nd Amend ruling:

https://tinyurl.com/y89trxwr

cool, old dog new trick

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:46 AM (83lwH)

227 I think that's likely correct. They can't freak out, if they don't go
out in public where they can enjoy the experience of freaking out on
everyone else.

That's a fundamental part of the kink.

Control freaks: If they can't control you, they freak out.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 05, 2021 11:47 AM (HaL55)

228 Didja see that Assistant Secretary of Health Dr. "Rachel" Levine is concerned about our mental health?

That's kind of funny.

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 11:42 AM (cSyAR)

It's like getting economic advice from Paul Krugman.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:44 AM (Rkcch)

And Tony Fauci investigatin' the origin of the China Wuwu.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:47 AM (naMR+)

229 Actually I think he made it permanent and went into effect immediately.

That was not my understanding from the TV news story that was linked to this morning. Doesn't mean that the story is correct of course, but it did say that the law remains in effect pending appeal. My question is whether the appeal is directly to the 9th Circuit or if there is some intermediate court that has to hear it first. Because it's a sucker bet that the 9th will overturn (i.e. uphold the ban) and then it's a question of whether SCOTUS touches it. My bet is that they won't so, in the end, nothing changes for Californians.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 05, 2021 11:47 AM (nfrXX)

230 NPR is my second most trusted news network right after Yahoo, number one /sarc
Fortunately around here during the day it fades out quite often on the car radio, and disappears after sunset. Low power transmitter or something.

Posted by: Colin at June 05, 2021 11:48 AM (L8+Rx)

231 . Didja see that Assistant Secretary of Health Dr. "Rachel" Levine is concerned about our mental health?

That's kind of funny.
Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 11:42 AM (cSyAR)

"Mentally ill man dressed like Aunt Tilly is concerned about mental health."

Babylon Bee has to step up their game to stay in the satire category.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Confuzzled at June 05, 2021 11:48 AM (x8Wzq)

232 Ah, the wonders of our healthcare 'system' -

Recently had minor surgery that I'd been waiting for a VERY long time to have done, robotically, only a couple hospitals in the area equipped to do that.

Got a bill. $84K.

Got the EOB from the insurer: PPO Discount, $75K.

Covered: $8K.

My piece: $1.2K.

This is just the hospital. I know the surgeon is in-network and I won't be out much for that, the anesthesiologists scare me because they seem to have a cabal to avoid being in-network with ANYONE and I'm expecting a battle there (as was the case ~8 years ago, the last time I had something similar done.)

Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2021 11:48 AM (8erNz)

233 Ben is going to be shocked when 'fulfill her destiny' turns out to be God's Judgement.
Posted by: Puddleglum at June 05, 2021 11:39 AM (W+e0y)

Ben will just tell God that his lived experience negates God's judgment.

I'm sure that'll work out well for Ben as God will recognize Ben's wisdom.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 11:49 AM (Ojki1)

234 It's incredible how accurate the "if you meet one jerk, you met one jerk. If everyone you meet is a jerk, YOU'RE the jerk" observation is.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory? The $2 Drug that Cracked COVID at June 05, 2021 11:43 AM (9nwlC)

But enough about my driving...

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:49 AM (naMR+)

235 I'm still a tad unclear on why my lived experiences aren't also valid.

Got a paper bag?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 05, 2021 11:49 AM (nfrXX)

236 I wish all the NPR talent would all fly on airlines together more often. Trips over the Andes. Bermuda. Riyadh.

I would dance, for the first time in my life.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 05, 2021 11:49 AM (OssQ4)

237 222 kallisto anything further on your remodel project?
Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2021 11:45 AM (Cxk7w)

OH yeah, Skip. I just started pricing bathroom fixtures and my eyes just about popped out of my head. I had started a bathroom re-do pre COVID, then my contractor, who was also my neighbor, sadly died from cancer.

So now I need to finish the project. But prices post-COVID are through the roof!

Posted by: kallisto at June 05, 2021 11:49 AM (DJFLF)

238 (Nods in agreement when the HR department's mandatory diversity training
explains how single story mud huts are exactly like the Parthenon,
secretly suspects that this isn't the best way to try and counter white
supremacy)

When can we start talking about black supremacy in African countries? You know, the ones founded by blacks. Where's all their diversity? And why aren't they being brought to task the way we are?
/rhetorical

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at June 05, 2021 11:50 AM (HaL55)

239 Carpe Donkum's version of the Ben Rhodes video video is pretty funny: https://youtu.be/RZlqQKzYz2I

Posted by: 40 Miles North at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (uWF4x)

240 Rich people are the worst for paying their bills. Trust me on this.
Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 11:37 AM (gHWbw)

Repo Man:

Bud:Bruce I. Peason, brokerage consultant. Fucking millionaire six payments behind. I've never understood it.

Otto: What's that?

Bud: The fucking millionaires. They never pay their bills. See you at the yard.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (ZSK0i)

241
This is just the hospital. I know the surgeon is in-network and I won't be out much for that, the anesthesiologists scare me because they seem to have a cabal to avoid being in-network with ANYONE and I'm expecting a battle there (as was the case ~8 years ago, the last time I had something similar done.)
Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2021 11:48 AM (8erNz)

**

Maybe the best piece of medical billing advice I was ever given was to 1) request and itemized bill and 2) not pay it until they're ready to send it to a collection agency. Depending on your situation, maybe even wait until then, who knows.

It's amazing how many downward adjustments that bill will be put through before they decide on a final amount.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory? The $2 Drug that Cracked COVID at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (9nwlC)

242 I wish I was a little smarter but I'm still working on this lived experience thing.
If I understand correctly lived experiences are not necessarily experiences you have actually lived through.
It's confusing.

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (cSyAR)

243 Was he always a whack job?
Posted by: OregonMuse,

*****

Not overtly so, but who knows what darkness lurks in the hearts of men. The descriptor that best fits is 'unremarkable'. Not a bright shining intellect, not a sparkling personality, not especially charismatic or interesting or flamboyant. Just another dude. He was single at the time, later married and had a couple of kids. I first heard of his transition from a mutual classmate who is up on all the school gossip perhaps 10 years ago, so it was a relatively late in life thing (she would have told me sooner if it had happened sooner).

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (m45I2)

244 Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at June 05, 2021 11:26 AM (/7+9I)

Don't you have a starship to run?

Better watch it or Nand Dowager Ilisidi will come up there and poison you for real.

I always thought that because I didn't like female science fiction writers that I was a misogynist. But I started reading CJ Cherryh and liked her very much. So I decided that I didn't dislike female science fiction writers I just disliked bad science fiction/fantasy writers.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (gHWbw)

245 I used to listen to NPR every day while I took a shower. I stopped listening when it hit me that if they stopped talking about oppressed women and oppressed minorities, they would have dead air all day.

Posted by: brio at June 05, 2021 11:52 AM (6Y47l)

246 My lived experience right now is the black population of Houston is shooting up the town.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 11:52 AM (2DOZq)

247 So now I need to finish the project. But prices post-COVID are through the roof!

I should say...post plandemic

Posted by: kallisto at June 05, 2021 11:52 AM (DJFLF)

248 Margot Adler, a vampire maven and occult priestess who was better known as a reporter on National Public Radio for 35 years, died Monday at her New York home.

Posted by: tmitsss at June 05, 2021 11:52 AM (GvnZd)

249 Rich people are the worst for paying their bills. Trust me on this.
Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 11:37 AM (gHWbw)

Repo Man:

Bud:Bruce I. Peason, brokerage consultant. Fucking millionaire six payments behind. I've never understood it.

Otto: What's that?

Bud: The fucking millionaires. They never pay their bills. See you at the yard.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (ZSK0i)

Rich people have more and higher bills. Duh.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:53 AM (naMR+)

250 -
The first rule of racist hate mongering is you don't talk about racist hate mongering.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 11:15 AM (d9FiS)

And persistent homicidal ideation toward the general population is tough. Who do you "warn", under "duty to warn". Seems she's just a menace. I wonder if they've locked her up yet. I don't really care if she's just a perimenopausal malcontent. The fact that she deliberately ended friendships and associations with whites is important here.

Posted by: CN at June 05, 2021 11:53 AM (ONvIw)

251 Maybe the best piece of medical billing advice I was ever given was to 1) request and itemized bill and 2) not pay it until they're ready to send it to a collection agency. Depending on your situation, maybe even wait until then, who knows.

It's amazing how many downward adjustments that bill will be put through before they decide on a final amount.

Yeah, that, then there's 'never pay anyone who wasn't specifically named on the admission paperwork as being out-of-network'. I think it was something like nine months after my last surgery that somewhere between the health insurance and the gas-passers that their ($12K?) bill went away.

Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2021 11:53 AM (8erNz)

252 All construction materials are getting pricey.
Took note this week, and today a few houses in my area are up for sale, was wondering if the year of Covid was just backing them up from happening.

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2021 11:53 AM (Cxk7w)

253 I'm still a tad unclear on why my lived experiences aren't also valid.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory? The $2 Drug that Cracked COVID at June 05, 2021 11:40 AM (9nwlC)

To get your true "lived experiences", you have to run your anecdotal life experiences through the LUT (look-up-table) of CRT to generate your "lived experiences".

Think of it as a global warming algorithm for racial grievance.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at June 05, 2021 11:53 AM (uhPTO)

254 "When can we start talking about black supremacy in African countries?"

Right after we cover how all the West African tribes declared war on each other solely for the purpose of acquiring captives they could sell into slavery for euro guns and liquor.

Which means that if you african-american ancestors were slaves, odds are good that another line of your ancestors were slavers.

Do the Reparations on that one LOL

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:54 AM (83lwH)

255 OMG! Somebody offended Chelsea Clinton!

https://bit.ly/3cl7dqq

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 11:54 AM (d9FiS)

256 248 Margot Adler, a vampire maven and occult priestess who was better known as a reporter on National Public Radio for 35 years, died Monday at her New York home.
Posted by: tmitsss at June 05, 2021 11:52 AM (GvnZd)

I think she died years ago

Posted by: CN at June 05, 2021 11:54 AM (ONvIw)

257 My dog is lying right behind my rolling office chair. If I'm not careful her lived experience will involve chair oppression and a pinched tail.

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 11:54 AM (cSyAR)

258 "I use to say, 10 years ago when I sometimes heard it
All Leftists Things Considered"

I add the word liberal into the name of every NPR show so Fresh Air to me is Fresh Liberal Air...

It really is a mystery why NPR receives any money from the Gov"t

Posted by: adk46er at June 05, 2021 11:54 AM (Dk6GG)

259 I think it was something like nine months after my last surgery that somewhere between the health insurance and the gas-passers that their ($12K?) bill went away.
Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2021 11:53 AM (8erNz)

**

I'm certain they'd send out a refund if you'd paid it, though. Or if both you and the insurance company paid the same charge.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Sure it works in practice, but does it work in theory? The $2 Drug that Cracked COVID at June 05, 2021 11:55 AM (9nwlC)

260 "My lived experience right now is the black population of Houston is shooting up the town."

Move over to Rosenburg. I have 200 acres of farm to sell.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:55 AM (83lwH)

261 I always thought that because I didn't like female science fiction writers that I was a misogynist. But I started reading CJ Cherryh and liked her very much. So I decided that I didn't dislike female science fiction writers I just disliked bad science fiction/fantasy writers.
Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (gHWbw)

My lived experience: bad science fiction writers, like bad writers in general, are not constrained by gender.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 11:56 AM (Ojki1)

262 Hospitals have about 3-4 price lists.

one that cash customers or self insured pay.

one the insurance companys pay.

One the medicare/medicaid pays.

And then there's the actual cost that still leaves them a profit.

I've seen them take a 40,000 bill and knock it down to less than 8,000 and that was going to be paid off a little at a time.

This is why there needs to be a law that hospitals must post a list of the cost of their services for everything. (someone tried a few times Rand Paul? but so far no go)

Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 11:56 AM (gHWbw)

263 Nine out of ten American children go to bed without waffles.

Posted by: The Ad Council at June 05, 2021 11:56 AM (W4eKo)

264 252 All construction materials are getting pricey.
Took note this week, and today a few houses in my area are up for sale, was wondering if the year of Covid was just backing them up from happening.
Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2021 11:53 AM (Cxk7w)

the value of my home is up considerably due to the NYC/NJ/Philly escapees landing here like a plague of locusts. But if I sell my house, where do I go?

I know someone who is relocating to W VA. There is a part of that state that is only 3 hours from me. I never knew that.

Posted by: kallisto at June 05, 2021 11:56 AM (DJFLF)

265 I think she died years ago
Posted by: CN at June 05, 2021 11:54 AM (ONvIw)

July 28th, 2014 to be precise...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2021 11:56 AM (ZSK0i)

266 If a friend recommends that you listen to a particular program on NPR with the line "I think you'll like it," is that a compliment or an insult?

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 11:57 AM (cSyAR)

267 I add the word liberal into the name of every NPR show so Fresh Air to me is Fresh Liberal Air...

It really is a mystery why NPR receives any money from the Gov"t

I think you just solved your own mystery.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 05, 2021 11:57 AM (nfrXX)

268 246 My lived experience right now is the black population of Houston is shooting up the town.
Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 11:52 AM (2DOZq)

Which is where the new "It is their culture to do so" comes into play.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 11:57 AM (Ojki1)

269 I first heard of his transition from a mutual classmate who is up on all the school gossip perhaps 10 years ago, so it was a relatively late in life thing (she would have told me sooner if it had happened sooner).
Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (m45I2)

Years ago I attended an "education" thing about transjenners, and this dude who had already transitioned gave his talk about his "lived experience." He showed photos of himself as a man, a father and husband. He was muscular and masculine.

Then decided to be a woman. His now ex-wife and kids were STILL having trouble with it... years after the fact.

And he couldn't get any dates. Imagine that. He described his now long gone weener as "it," and spoke of it with absolute disgust. Even though "it" gave him his children. Some... rather obviously unresolved issues there, dude. But everyone clapped when he finished his talk. Oops, I mean she.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:58 AM (naMR+)

270 "One might think that the lived experience of a member of oppressed groups would be admissible as a valid challenge to the claims of Theory, but this not so. T

hey may be talking about their own experiences in life, but they aren't appealing to lived experience, which must comport with Theory"
--------------

Ka bamm

Get down off your hind legs.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 11:58 AM (kMTsG)

271 Got a bill. $84K.

Got the EOB from the insurer: PPO Discount, $75K.

Covered: $8K.

My piece: $1.2K.

Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2021 11:48 AM (8erNz)

See, this is why it is damn near impossible to find out what medical procedures actually cost.

"Whatever the insurance company will pay" is not a valid answer, but it appears to be the only answer.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 11:59 AM (Rkcch)

272 "But I started reading CJ Cherryh and liked her very much."

Anne McCaffrey's Pern series.

But start out with Menolly of the Nine Fire Lizards. I got it as one of those bonus books you get for ordering six, and fell in love.

Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:59 AM (83lwH)

273 > That is, one's "lived experience" refers to the interpretation that Critical Social Justice Theory gives for the anecdotal accounts of experiences one has had.

In other words, you put some personal experience into the CSJT box, crank the handle a few times, and out oozes your "lived experience." That output cannot be analyzed or questioned, except through CSJT, because CSJT is beyond question.

What bullshit.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 05, 2021 12:00 PM (i0wNm)

274 Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (m45I2)

The answer is: The Shadow. (insert evil laugh here)

Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 12:00 PM (gHWbw)

275 On a cigar break. Sup, y'all?

Posted by: Weasel at June 05, 2021 12:00 PM (MVjcR)

276 @disclosetv

JUST IN - Pentagon funneled $39 MILLION to the EcoHealth Alliance, the "charity" that funded coronavirus research at the Wuhan bio lab accused of being the source of the outbreak (Daily Mail)

The majority of the DoD funding to #EcoHealth came from the DTRA, a US military branch with a mission to "counter and deter weapons of mass destruction and improvised threat networks".

https://tinyurl.com/yyy49zah

Posted by: Tami at June 05, 2021 12:01 PM (cF8AT)

277 I have a hard time describing their sound precisely. But you know it.

------

It's the tone someone uses when he wants you to cave in his face with a length of pipe.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 05, 2021 12:01 PM (yFG1M)

278 When Charles Blow is right, he's right.

https://bit.ly/2SbrTu9

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 12:02 PM (d9FiS)

279 "My lived experience right now is the black population of Houston is shooting up the town."
-----------
Move over to Rosenburg. I have 200 acres of farm to sell.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:55 AM (83lwH)

I keep hearing people say "yeah, this place is just outside of Houston, but it's real nice."

I kinda think my concept of what is nice is related to how FAR from Houston it is. Houston, Chicago, LA. equidistant, is perhaps ideal.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 12:02 PM (naMR+)

280 Ben Rhodes almost makes me embarassed to be a Rice graduate.

Posted by: Jim at June 05, 2021 12:02 PM (rnwV8)

281 OMG! Somebody offended Chelsea Clinton!

https://bit.ly/3cl7dqq

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 11:54 AM (d9FiS)

Sorry Chelsea, it is funny.

Posted by: BignJames at June 05, 2021 12:03 PM (AwYPR)

282 Ben Rhodes almost makes me embarassed to be a Rice graduate.

****

Wait a minute, here. Uncle Ben went to Rice?

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 12:04 PM (m45I2)

283 Didja know what else is white supremacist?

https://bit.ly/2T1oEFE

And in the middle of celebrating the rainbow!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 12:04 PM (d9FiS)

284 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 12:02 PM (d9FiS)

He sounds threatening.

Posted by: CN at June 05, 2021 12:05 PM (ONvIw)

285 Wait a minute, here. Uncle Ben went to Rice?

He was only there for a Minute.

Posted by: The Ad Council at June 05, 2021 12:05 PM (W4eKo)

286 >>>198 "Lived Experience" is just shorthand for facts don't matter, truth doesn't matter, whatever I believe is My Truth, and your silly rules, laws, reality down to the granular subatomic level don't apply to me.

What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Common Tater at June 05, 2021 11:36 AM (htrDF)

I was just going say: "lived experience" = "My Truth."

Posted by: m at June 05, 2021 12:06 PM (fVJPF)

287 The other trick the hospitals will do is they will charge you for THEIR services and then the bills from all the other providers send you THEIR bills which can trickle in for months.

And you're never sure that all of them have come in so you don't know how to get it reduced. Turns out if you get the Hospital to accept a lesser charge that the providers will also accept that percentage off their bill.

Oh and last time you were in a hospital for an emergency? And all sorts of Drs. for stuff you don't have any problem with showed up?

Yeah that's to get their name on the providers list for your stay and collect some money even tho all they did was listen to you breathe and talk to you for a bit. And they'll all charge their maximum rate.

I guess they have to be inventive cause people can walk in and get healed and walk out and never pay a dime and the hospital has to eat that. (if the person was illegal or indigent or any of a bunch of protected classes. Not middle class worker bees tho. They get billed to death cause they can find YOU.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 12:06 PM (gHWbw)

288 Bud: The fucking millionaires. They never pay their bills. See you at the yard.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (ZSK0i)
Rich people have more and higher bills. Duh.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 11:53 AM (naMR+)

I had a friend who's daddy was an AL Gore Sr. type from Mississippi.....uber rich but a good ole boy.

He would bounce checks from Miami to New York to Las Vegas and when they came calling he would tell them, "Hey, I got my accounts crossed up" and then make a good payment the second time around. Those that didn't come calling just went unpaid.

Rich folks just do things a bit differently because they can.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 05, 2021 12:06 PM (R/m4+)

289 Move over to Rosenburg. I have 200 acres of farm to sell.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 11:55 AM (83lwH)

Have you ever eaten at the tamale joint that's next to the shaved ice place?

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 12:09 PM (2DOZq)

290 Rich folks just do things a bit differently because they can.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 05, 2021 12:06 PM (R/m4+)

Roy Cohn..."So, sue me."

Posted by: BignJames at June 05, 2021 12:09 PM (AwYPR)

291 When you view the world through a rainbow prism all you can see is White!!

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 12:09 PM (m45I2)

292 I think that "lived experiences can be a very dangerous thing.

For instance: Korean-Americans during the Rodney King riots in L.A....their lived experience with blacks is quite damning. I wonder whether that is considered reasonable?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2021 12:09 PM (Q9lwr)

293 Had a talk with the grandson about privilege. "If you, at 11 are privileged, it is because everyone in your family worked their asses off to provide that privilege."

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at June 05, 2021 12:10 PM (r1z5A)

294 When Charles Blow is right, he's right.

https://bit.ly/2SbrTu9
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 12:02 PM (d9FiS)

I've only ever had my heart broken by white women. I did date a black woman once, but she was so messed up she couldn't figure out how to be happy. And by that point in my life I knew it wasn't possible for me to help her do that. So it didn't bother me when things didn't work out.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 12:10 PM (naMR+)

295 I had a friend who's daddy was an AL Gore Sr. type from Mississippi.....uber rich but a good ole boy.

He would bounce checks from Miami to New York to Las Vegas and when they came calling he would tell them, "Hey, I got my accounts crossed up" and then make a good payment the second time around. Those that didn't come calling just went unpaid.

Rich folks just do things a bit differently because they can.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 05, 2021 12:06 PM (R/m4+)

Famous rich people have another advantage- JFK use to write checks knowing that a certain number of them would never be cashed because the recipients wanted that JFK sig.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 12:10 PM (Ojki1)

296 *glances in*
*wanders off*

Posted by: SMH at June 05, 2021 12:10 PM (XrnX7)

297 When you're selling high end antiques, rich folks are your besties.

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2021 12:10 PM (8o8kf)

298 Holy shit. G7 just announced an agreement on a GLOBAL TAX RATE for corporations.

Uh... Sovereignity right out the window.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2021 12:11 PM (oHd/0)

299
Wait a minute, here. Uncle Ben went to Rice?
Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 12:04 PM (m45I2)

White Rice?

Posted by: Northern lurker at June 05, 2021 12:11 PM (cSyAR)

300 OMG! Somebody offended Chelsea Clinton!

https://bit.ly/3cl7dqq
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks aka Hangdog Barkston at June 05, 2021 11:54 AM (d9FiS)

The Beast obviously drank heavily after Webb knocked her up.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at June 05, 2021 12:11 PM (y7DUB)

301 Vice President Harris May Be 'The Busiest Woman In Washington'

Thought she gave that up after she got married.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 12:12 PM (kMTsG)

302 When you view the world through a rainbow prism all you can see is White!!

Posted by: Muldoon

Well that, and asses to ****.

Posted by: pete bone me buttedge. at June 05, 2021 12:12 PM (r1z5A)

303
Yeah, a VAT tax here is coming soon.
Republican Shits will "compromise" a lower rate for us, though.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 12:12 PM (kRGzM)

304 Wait a minute, here. Uncle Ben went to Rice?
Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 12:04 PM (m45I2)

my sis graduated from Rice and she's as white as they come

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2021 12:13 PM (8o8kf)

305 This crazy shrink who wants to kill whitey is Iranian. She's pretty close to a whitey she could "off".

Posted by: Roo Bad Costa Rica Sucks at June 05, 2021 12:13 PM (xEIoY)

306 They ought to form a special investigatory club.

OJ can look for the killers

Bill Cosby can look for his reputation

Fauci can look for the virus

Hunter can look for his crack pipe

Kamala can look for her kneepads

You get the picture.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 12:13 PM (gHWbw)

307 Vice President Harris May Be 'The Busiest Woman In Washington' -----

The MSM really do expect us to believe it's raining when they're pissing on us.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 12:13 PM (2DOZq)

308 >>>239 Carpe Donkum's version of the Ben Rhodes video video is pretty funny: https://youtu.be/RZlqQKzYz2I
Posted by: 40 Miles North at June 05, 2021 11:51 AM (uWF4x)

It is. It's letter-perfect.

Posted by: m at June 05, 2021 12:14 PM (fVJPF)

309 Rich folks just do things a bit differently because they can.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 05, 2021 12:06 PM (R/m4+)

Perhaps so, and I think people who have... less money, have a misunderstanding (in many ways) of those who have more.

Generally, if you are "rich," by which I mean people well above the poverty line, but well below the super rich, you don't have a lot of spare money laying around waiting to be spent. You have higher bills, because you live up to your means. If you make a million dollars a year, and you spend a million dollars a year, you're not going to be swimming in more cash than me. I make... eh, less, than a million dollars a year, but I spend a lot less than I make.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 12:14 PM (naMR+)

310 Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 12:06 PM (gHWbw)

It's also true that any billed thing that does not get paid? Ends up being 'charity', which is a tax write off.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2021 12:14 PM (oHd/0)

311
btw, I'll bet my left nut google will be exempt from that "global" tax. As will Amazon.

And all of china's going concerns.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 12:14 PM (kRGzM)

312 They're going to get the revenue stream for the World Gov started before they elect anyone.

Did I say elect? I meant select.

Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 12:15 PM (gHWbw)

313 298 Holy shit. G7 just announced an agreement on a GLOBAL TAX RATE for corporations.

Uh... Sovereignity right out the window.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2021 12:11 PM (oHd/0)

Bet the non G7 countries are prepping their presentations for corporations looking for a new HQ location right now.

And to all the corps what used their cash to get people in the G7 into power...Hah. Though let's face it, the more powerful corps are OK with this as it will stymie those start up ones that could grow to challenge them.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 12:15 PM (Ojki1)

314 Vice President Harris May Be 'The Busiest Woman In Washington'
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Thought she gave that up after she got married.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 12:12 PM (kMTsG)

Where's Wonkette when you need her?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 12:16 PM (naMR+)

315 China isn't in the G7, imagine that.

Posted by: Roo Bad Costa Rica Sucks at June 05, 2021 12:17 PM (xEIoY)

316 Yeah, a VAT tax here is coming soon.
Republican Shits will "compromise" a lower rate for us, though.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 12:12 PM (kRGzM)

Not that different from a National Sales Tax that a lot of conservatives advocate for replacing income tax.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 12:17 PM (2DOZq)

317
It'll be you and me paying that tax.
Tribute, a more apt description.

In fact, Americans will pay a higher rate. We do, after all, "contribute" to the fake "global warming" more than anyone fake-contributes to it.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 12:18 PM (kRGzM)

318 312 They're going to get the revenue stream for the World Gov started before they elect anyone.

Did I say elect? I meant select.
Posted by: jakee308 at June 05, 2021 12:15 PM (gHWbw)

They'll elect someone. But the pool of who gets to vote on that person will be a bit selective, as it were. Kind of like who gets to vote on the Pope.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 12:18 PM (Ojki1)

319 China doesn't have to compete when the US, Japan and Europe all surrender.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at June 05, 2021 12:19 PM (xEIoY)

320
Yes, a national sales tax....in addition to the income tax.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 12:19 PM (kRGzM)

321 Remember most every country are Leftists, they all would love tax dollars.

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2021 12:19 PM (Cxk7w)

322 Not that different from a National Sales Tax that a lot of conservatives advocate for replacing income tax.
Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 12:17 PM (2DOZq)

Yep, give us that tax and income tax will go away, we promise. We also promise not to do that thing in your mouth.

Again.

Posted by: GoPe at June 05, 2021 12:19 PM (Ojki1)

323 I guess I should start preparing to enter the Black Market business.

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 12:20 PM (2DOZq)

324 Vice President Harris May Be 'The Busiest Woman In Washington'

*

If you have to tell people that you are, you aren't.

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a bridge at June 05, 2021 12:20 PM (O3VVw)

325 Yeah, a VAT tax here is coming soon.
Republican Shits will "compromise" a lower rate for us, though.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 12:12 PM (kRGzM)

Not that different from a National Sales Tax that a lot of conservatives advocate for replacing income tax.

This bunch will do it in addition to the income tax.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at June 05, 2021 12:20 PM (SchxB)

326 They'll elect someone. But the pool of who gets to vote on that person will be a bit selective, as it were. Kind of like who gets to vote on the Pope.
Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 12:18 PM (Ojki1)

Nah, it'll be an EU type of Government... you will have elected officials, but they will have no actual legal power.

You know, like Communist China, which does supposedly elect their local representatives, just like 'we' do.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2021 12:20 PM (oHd/0)

327 He would bounce checks from Miami to New York to Las Vegas and when they came calling he would tell them, "Hey, I got my accounts crossed up" and then make a good payment the second time around. Those that didn't come calling just went unpaid.

Rich folks just do things a bit differently because they can.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 05, 2021 12:06 PM (R/m4+)

This reminds me of the scam I've heard that some unethical insurance companies used to do -- routinely deny every claim. And then only pay up if the claimant jumped through a bunch of hoops and did a lot of extra paperwork. I think there are laws specifically prohibiting this kind of scam now.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at June 05, 2021 12:21 PM (Rkcch)

328 garden thread is up

Posted by: m at June 05, 2021 12:21 PM (fVJPF)

329 Yep, give us that tax and income tax will go away, we promise. We also promise not to do that thing in your mouth.

Again.
Posted by: GoPe at June 05, 2021 12:19 PM (Ojki1)

To be clear I'm not for it. I'm for a flat tax .

Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 12:21 PM (2DOZq)

330 323 I guess I should start preparing to enter the Black Market business.
Posted by: Just a side note at June 05, 2021 12:20 PM (2DOZq)

Start by learning Opsec. Step 1: not mentioning "Black market prep" in public, where your local postmaster is watching.

Posted by: GoPe at June 05, 2021 12:22 PM (Ojki1)

331 Off Washington Generals sock.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 12:23 PM (Ojki1)

332 National VAT on top of local sales taxes sounds fun.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at June 05, 2021 12:23 PM (xEIoY)

333 >>>The majority of the DoD funding to #EcoHealth came from the DTRA,
-----------------------------

They should have sent the money to DARPA.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 12:25 PM (kMTsG)

334
The climate justice tax perhaps.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 12:25 PM (kRGzM)

335 This is the most amazing live reporting on location I've ever seen. I can't stop laughing.

https://gab.com/JonEblaze/posts/106355048435986929

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 05, 2021 12:25 PM (mqdDS)

336 335 This is the most amazing live reporting on location I've ever seen. I can't stop laughing.

https://gab.com/JonEblaze/posts/106355048435986929
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 05, 2021 12:25 PM (mqdDS)

MJF is a wrestler who is a heel, so this maybe a spot for a wrestling show.

Still funny though.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 12:27 PM (Ojki1)

337
Not that different from a National Sales Tax that a lot of conservatives advocate for replacing income tax.
Posted by: Just a side note

The "fair tax"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2021 12:29 PM (63Dwl)

338 Too funny!

https://tinyurl.com/yyno5s38

Posted by: Tami at June 05, 2021 12:29 PM (cF8AT)

339 MJF is a wrestler who is a heel, so this maybe a spot for a wrestling show.

Still funny though.
Posted by: Bete

Yeah I figured it was. I was just going with it.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 05, 2021 12:29 PM (mqdDS)

340 >>>I kinda think my concept of what is nice is related to how FAR from Houston it is. Houston, Chicago, LA. equidistant, is perhaps ideal.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 12:02 PM (naMR+)
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Regretfully, the thing about being adjacent to BigCity is the quality of some of its professional services cannot be found elsewhere; for example, medical aid, anywhere else in the world.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 12:29 PM (kMTsG)

341 That angry cat song is wonderful, shows what musicians can do with the simplest thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor, world's most respected Fantasy Hero writer at June 05, 2021 12:33 PM (KZzsI)

342 Regretfully, the thing about being adjacent to BigCity is the quality of some of its professional services cannot be found elsewhere; for example, medical aid, anywhere else in the world.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 12:29 PM (kMTsG)

If what you need isn't something emergency and super specialist needed, you can do OK with travel. My Oncologist is a 2 hour drive, and other than during hospitalizations (Had 2 and will almost certainly have more going forward if I do the treatment) the drive is worth not living in the super woke city the hospital is in.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 12:33 PM (Ojki1)

343 >>>For instance: Korean-Americans during the Rodney King riots in L.A....their lived experience with blacks is quite damning. I wonder whether that is considered reasonable?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2021 12:09 PM (Q9lwr)
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No. You're lived experience is only valid if it comports with Critical Theory.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 12:34 PM (kMTsG)

344 Regretfully, the thing about being adjacent to BigCity is the quality of some of its professional services cannot be found elsewhere; for example, medical aid, anywhere else in the world.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 12:29 PM (kMTsG)

If what you need isn't something emergency and super specialist needed, you can do OK with travel. My Oncologist is a 2 hour drive, and other than during hospitalizations (Had 2 and will almost certainly have more going forward if I do the treatment) the drive is worth not living in the super woke city the hospital is in.
Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 12:33 PM (Ojki1)

I sorta start with the assumption I better educate myself on whatever condition I may end up getting, and then gauge the quality of the healthcare practitioner, based on what I know. I realize some folks are too emotional to do that, but... eh, that ain't me. So if I have to travel for care, I'll travel for it, but I'm not gonna assume the big city doctor is better than the small town guy, just because he works in a big city hospital.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 05, 2021 12:36 PM (naMR+)

345 It's also true that any billed thing that does not get paid? Ends up being 'charity', which is a tax write off.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2021 12:14 PM (oHd/0)

*ding, ding, ding* "Got the EOB from the insurer: PPO Discount, $75K." That "PPO Discount" is mislabled. It should have read IRS Write-Off.

Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 12:38 PM (XxJt1)

346 Sotomayer's "lived experience" showed up years ago, as did her 'otherism' of whites, laying down the general seed for the ultimate genocide against whites.

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman, with the richness of her experiences, would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 05, 2021 12:45 PM (K58O6)

347 345 It's also true that any billed thing that does not get paid? Ends up being 'charity', which is a tax write off.
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2021 12:14 PM (oHd/0)

*ding, ding, ding* "Got the EOB from the insurer: PPO Discount, $75K." That "PPO Discount" is mislabled. It should have read IRS Write-Off.
Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 12:38 PM (XxJt1)

Dated a Lady who was an accountant for my Local Doc (I was his IT support). Complicated shit but they had not paid any taxes in YEARS.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2021 12:47 PM (oHd/0)

348 Anyone reloading, Natchez has some Hodgdon, Vihtavuori, and Accurate powders, mainly for handguns in stock. Includes H110 which is good for M1 Carbines and magnum revolvers.

Posted by: whig at June 05, 2021 12:49 PM (pO7gM)

349
_You pay your monthly premium
_You go to the hospital and receive the best medical care in the world
_You receive bills totaling three to five thousand

Guido says, pay the bill, don't worry about it.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 12:52 PM (kMTsG)

350 TAKE-AWAY: Go long on machetes.
Posted by: Cicero

Does Insom have boxed sets with tire irons?

Posted by: Miklos, with a lovely parting gift at June 05, 2021 12:52 PM (QzkSJ)

351 He should offer them in blued steel, chrome, and flat black.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 12:55 PM (kMTsG)

352 "I would hope that a wise Latina woman, with the richness of her experiences, would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."
Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at June 05, 2021 12:45 PM (K58O6)

So, due to the 'richness of their experience', they get to hate on Whitey because of what Whitey did to them.

OK, well every time I've been shot at, has been by a Moslem. Does that mean I get to HATE all Moslems?

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2021 12:57 PM (oHd/0)

353 350 TAKE-AWAY: Go long on machetes.
Posted by: Cicero

Does Insom have boxed sets with tire irons?
Posted by: Miklos, with a lovely parting gift at June 05, 2021 12:52 PM (QzkSJ)

/looks at the matched set of modern Sabers on his sword rack

Welllllll....

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2021 12:58 PM (oHd/0)

354 NPR and condescending - it's really just the awful liberal nasal impediment sound. It's an in group sound, like the rising intonation.

Posted by: Piratepatch at June 05, 2021 01:00 PM (2Xrky)

355 301 Vice President Harris May Be 'The Busiest Woman In Washington'

Thought she gave that up after she got married.

I wouldn't want the 2021-edition Kamala Harris clamped on my bits even if she had NOTHING to do.

Posted by: JEM at June 05, 2021 01:03 PM (8erNz)

356 Jackee-- Third captain, Jase, it's his shift. And the Aiji Dowager and I have an agreement: I leave her alone, she leaves me alone.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin, clinging bitterly to a deplorable life at June 05, 2021 01:07 PM (/7+9I)

357 61 It's amazing how blind the Left is. I just left a BSG forum where all the Lefties were striking a pose over a "racist" doctor and how it relates to America. But the doctor wasn't killing people of different races, he was killing religious people who didn't use Science because he thought the limited doses of vaxcine shouldn't be wasted on people who were anti-vax.
Not a single one of them saw this.
Posted by: Hoyt's Paid Turkish Provocateur at June 05, 2021 10:49 AM (83lwH)

How is this different from Kodos the Executioner?

Posted by: Fox2! at June 05, 2021 01:13 PM (qyH+l)

358 Just want to say- apropos of nothing- that I dislike it when leftists on politics discussion boards insult me and others, and then when I say I choose not to respond to them anymore because of the insults, they respond, "You're choosing not to respond because I owned you." It sounds like something teen boys say, and I know that this person is an adult, So silly. Yes, you "owned" me because I said Murphy has fascist tendencies and you said that that was name calling- something I objected to. Ummm. I object to it when leftist posters call Trump supporters "trumptards" and trumpanzees. I think Governor Murphy is probably not reading the local online paper, but if he objects to be calling out for fascist tendencies or someone saying he acts as if he's a king he needs to put on his big boy pants. He expected everyone in politics to love him?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2021 01:22 PM (k39e/)

359 "Lived experience" is a euphemism like "diverse" is a euphemism. The plain meaning of the words have been perverted by Marxists.

All Lives Experiences Matter!

Posted by: Mark Twain at June 05, 2021 01:26 PM (EZebt)

360 /cynical sock off

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 05, 2021 01:27 PM (EZebt)

361 Fen I try to avoid engaging with them in the first place so brava to you

I try to avoid semantics, tell them why he is a fascist

They won't get it, but if you're going there anyway whiteboard lady...

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 05, 2021 01:31 PM (EZebt)

362 I hate the words equity/equitable....

Posted by: lin-duh at June 05, 2021 01:31 PM (UUBmN)

363 It's also true that any billed thing that does not get paid? Ends up being 'charity', which is a tax write off. Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2021 12:14 PM (oHd/0) *ding, ding, ding* "Got the EOB from the insurer: PPO Discount,
$75K." That "PPO Discount" is mislabled. It should have read IRS
Write-Off.
Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 12:38 PM (XxJt1) Dated a Lady who was an accountant for my Local Doc (I was his IT
support). Complicated shit but they had not paid any taxes in YEARS. Posted by: Romeo13 at June 05, 2021 12:47 PM (oHd/0
Don't want to question anybody's lived experience, but you can't deduct a donation against income you never got. In-kind donations of time are notoriously difficult to deduct. (However, actual costs of supplies and employees' salaries are of course deductible because those are real out-of-pocket expenses for the medical practice.) That PPO discount isn't deductible, because there never was any income. If I charge you $100 but discount it 70% and only collect $30, I can't deduct the $70 I never got against the $30 I did get. I just claim the $30 revenue and not the $100 revenue.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 05, 2021 01:32 PM (BMmaB)

364 Akshully we are gathering with Mrs. F's rich lib relatives for dinner tonight and I have already received multiple forewarnings not to make trouble at this first reunion since quarantine.

Apparently today's horoscope specifically warned me against muttering under my breath

Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 05, 2021 01:34 PM (EZebt)

365 Posted by: San Franpsycho at June 05, 2021 01:31 PM
(EZebt)

I did tell him. Murphy declared the COVID emergency over yet the Democrat controlled State House voted he can maintain his emergency powers related to COVID, and passed on others to state jurisdiction so that the only thing that changed is that it's no longer an emergency but he still has the executive powers.

There's a rather large number of people over there who seem to regard that board as some sort of online gaming thing and they win by insulting you but not responding to the issues you raise. I did say that I thought Benito Mussolini was probably beyond being offended at being compared to Governor Murphy.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at June 05, 2021 01:40 PM (k39e/)

366 Most people, when speaking of "lived experiences" are actually talking about experiences that appear to support their pre-conceived chosen narrative. Experiences that fall outside that narrative are either discounted or frankly ignored. That's not really how life goes.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 01:41 PM (m45I2)

367 FenelonSpoke, fighting the good fight.
----------------------------

Natalie Mayflower Sours Edwards, senior adviser in the Treasury Department's FinCEN; sentenced to jail.

Sentenced to jail for leaking thousands of pages of anti-Trump financial information to the news media.

https://is.gd/3BEEdE

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 01:44 PM (kMTsG)

368 I went into our favorite deli yesterday, without a mask, and was told to put a mask on or leave. I said no, I was here for bagels. The Karen looked at me a long time and I looked at her a long time, and she just turned and walked away. Husband said she knew I would kick her ass.

Posted by: megthered at June 05, 2021 01:45 PM (spyxm)

369 Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon

*****

Your assessment fits with my understanding. Any write-off of uncollected fees is written off in the sense of being uncollectible, not written off as a tax benefit. Over the course of my 30+ year medical career I had hundreds of thousands of dollars of unreimbursed services. Didn't affect my tax obligation at all.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 01:46 PM (m45I2)

370 San Franpsycho think only happy thoughts, wouldn't want you wished into the corn field

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2021 01:48 PM (Cxk7w)

371 I went into our favorite deli yesterday, without a mask, and was told to put a mask on or leave. I said no, I was here for bagels.

Just curious, do you know if the Karen was part of management or a customer?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2021 01:53 PM (ZSK0i)

372 If I charge you $100 but discount it 70% and only collect $30, I can't deduct the $70 I never got against the $30 I did get. I just claim the $30 revenue and not the $100 revenue.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 05, 2021 01:32 PM (BMmaB)

Then what is the point of the astronomical initial number?

Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 01:56 PM (XxJt1)

373 Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy

I don't know if she was part of management. She was ringing people up at the register. The only other person in there without a mask was a Highway Patrol officer. She didn't bother him.

Posted by: megthered at June 05, 2021 01:57 PM (spyxm)

374 Your assessment fits with my understanding. Any
write-off of uncollected fees is written off in the sense of being
uncollectible, not written off as a tax benefit. Over the course of my
30+ year medical career I had hundreds of thousands of dollars of
unreimbursed services. Didn't affect my tax obligation at all.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 01:46 PM (m45I2
Muldoon gave me props on a postThat makes me more lucky than mostWhen I post about laws
And it's for a good causeThat gives me a reason to boast!

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 05, 2021 01:58 PM (BMmaB)

375 Then what is the point of the astronomical initial number?

Posted by: creeper at June 05, 2021 01:56 PM (XxJt1)

Same reason as going to a jewelry store. No one pays sticker price. The negotiation is about how much the discount is going to be. If you have insurance, you pay the insurance company to do that negotiation in advance.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 05, 2021 01:59 PM (BMmaB)

376
I had just a wacky thought:

The one year birthday of ginsburg's death is soon, yes?

Expect some sort of sickening long "commemoration" in the Fake News Media, which of course will fake-initiate the call to add more justices to the Court.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at June 05, 2021 02:00 PM (kRGzM)

377 PET NOOD

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at June 05, 2021 02:02 PM (Cxk7w)

378 The only other person in there without a mask was a Highway Patrol officer. She didn't bother him.

That is a bit odd and hypocritical.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2021 02:03 PM (ZSK0i)

379 Then what is the point of the astronomical initial number?
Posted by: creeper

*****

It hinges on the payer mix of the practice. Historically, most practices are likely dealing with a mix of (from lowest to highest paying) of freeloaders, Medicaid, Medicare SSI, regular Medicare, private insurance in-network, private insurance out-of-network and cash paying patients. Medicare reimbursement rate is usually the benchmark (and fixed by Medicare). Private insurers will negotiate a rate that is usually some percentage above the Medicare, part of which they reimburse and part of which is paid by the insured as co-payments or co-insurance. Practices usually set their list price somewhere above that, and above their break-even point. Only cash-paying customers who don't try to negotiate a lower payment pay the full list price. Practices will negotiate (to a point) as long as they can come in above break-even.

In essence, cash-paying customers are subsidizing the lower-reimbursing plans. Some have described this as a hidden tax.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 02:07 PM (m45I2)

380 Fen, you can't reason with people who want you and yours dead from the Dem side and the GOPe side. That ship sailed long ago when Obama was elected in 08 then the Uniparty began bailing out Billionaires, big finance, Multinational Corporations, while continuing to fight forever wars, allow an invasion, export jobs, devalue our currency, strategically market and place opioids in the Rust Bet and Appalachians, keep the borders open to import drugs, destroy the extended family and nuclear family, promote degeneracy, built an economy around the selling of vice and sin to Christians, and then call you names for pointing out any of the above mentioned and destroy your life.
Best to try and expend time and energy saving souls for Christ for those can be reached; unless you have experience in deliverance and casting out demons from those folks.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at June 05, 2021 02:09 PM (mqdDS)

381 is this place open for bidnessw if no into pets are garderns?
1:11

Posted by: will choose a nic later at June 05, 2021 02:11 PM (bTQ72)

382 is this place open for bidnessw if no into pets are garderns?

****

Like Mark Twain said, when you die your hair and hnails continue growing but comments gradually taper off.

Posted by: Muldoon at June 05, 2021 02:12 PM (m45I2)

383 Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy

It's ok. We're just visiting here. We leave Sunday for real America, our home state of South Dakota.

Posted by: megthered at June 05, 2021 02:14 PM (spyxm)

384 The medicines are even crazier for reimbursement rates. My wife (discharge planner at a hospital) had an elderly patient who had to have antirejection meds for a liver transplant 10 years ago. The cost for the nursing home to administer it was about 10x what it cost if his family went to CVS with a GoodRX card.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at June 05, 2021 02:29 PM (BMmaB)

385 I hang out here until whatever shows up at 5pm, but if it's 10 comments umore until then I will be surprised.

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2021 02:31 PM (Cxk7w)

386 NC Republicans are having a convention
Trump is up next after the SS clears the room
however
right now, until Trump is up, RSBN is interviewing local politicos

https://is.gd/C5Vk6u

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 02:45 PM (kMTsG)

387 378 The only other person in there without a mask was a Highway Patrol officer. She didn't bother him.

That is a bit odd and hypocritical.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2021 02:03 PM (ZSK0i)

She just spit in his food.

Posted by: Bete at June 05, 2021 02:47 PM (Ojki1)

388 Correction:

Trump will be up in three hours.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2021 02:48 PM (kMTsG)

389 "great teaching of the Bible is "Love your neighbor as yourself." It does not say "Love all of humanity as yourself." Love must begin with our neighbor. It should never end with our neighbor, but it must begin with him."

I'm late to this party ... been out mowing, Zero fawns mowed over, helped one escape.

But yes, I have promoted this "love your neighbor" thing is not globalism, but is instead expressed (maybe) best in federalism, and local rules supersede, except for certain things directly defined in the constitution, as belonging to Federal government.

(military being the prime federal thang, but perhaps after 1865, BigGov started to take control of every damn thing ... Global Warming Emergency, we must control All Energy .. Plandemic Emergency, we must control all your movements and track what meds you take ...

Trump was uniting people, and normals not control by that Narrative (the legal One Religion forced on us by law) are being harassed or imprisoned for WrongThink. So taking back the schools boards locally, from these federal union powers ... would be a good step toward love your neighbor, reject Top Down CRT.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 05, 2021 03:06 PM (Cus5s)

390 It's ok. We're just visiting here. We leave Sunday for real America, our home state of South Dakota.
Posted by: megthered at June 05, 2021 02:14 PM (spyxm)

Roger that. Have yourselves a good trip. >8^>

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at June 05, 2021 03:41 PM (ZSK0i)

391 "great teaching of the Bible is "Love your neighbor as yourself." It does not say "Love all of humanity as yourself." Love must begin with our neighbor. It should never end with our neighbor, but it must begin with him."

Humans love by proximity. Starting with your family, friends, church, community etc in expanding but weakening circles.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 05, 2021 04:22 PM (s4dNo)

392 8 comments

OM IS BACK

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at June 05, 2021 04:26 PM (Cxk7w)

393 Skip guy who says NOOD

Yay!

Posted by: KT at June 05, 2021 07:03 PM (BVQ+1)

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