The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

My first experience with Thomas Sowell's work was in college, and I suspected that he was chosen for his color and not his intellect.

Boy was I wrong.

Everything I have read by him has been thought provoking, rational, and based on the real world. In this age of "consensus" and group-think and newspeak, it is refreshing to return to a man who is not so enthralled by his own ideas that he rejects facts and experience that may be at odds with them.

If anyone can lift economics out of the miasma of politics and mushy-headed thinking, and into a discipline that values the Scientific method, It is Thomas Sowell.

The triumph of Thomas Sowell

At first he attended night classes at the historically black Howard University. There, his professors noted his remarkable intellect and capacity for hard work and helped him transfer to Harvard the next year. He thrived there intellectually and graduated at the age of twenty-eight magna cum laude.
But he was less enamored of the social atmosphere in Cambridge. Sowell noted that he “resented attempts by some thoughtless Harvardians to assimilate me, based on the assumption that the supreme honor they could bestow was to allow me to become like them.”

(Read the article...it's a review of a new biography of Sowell, and is filled with interesting little tidbits)

What fascinates me about Sowell's journey from Marxist to free-market conservative is that it was based entirely on reality. As his reality and perception of the world expanded, he changed to accommodate the new data, rather than rejecting it as so many supposed scholars do today. Just look at Global Warming^TM as an example of political expedience destroying rational analysis of the facts.

But as much of an important force he is in economics, Thomas Sowell may be even more valuable as an observer of hilariously irrational social elites, and their curious hold on the media and the popular narrative. His skewering of the conventional wisdom is always on target, and worthy of the great social observers of history.

Some of the biggest cases of mistaken identity are among intellectuals who have trouble remembering that they are not God.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 Morning, horde!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 25, 2021 10:00 AM (kTF2Z)

2 Thomas Sowell is a great American!

Posted by: Doof at May 25, 2021 10:01 AM (mZUr4)

3 I called them.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 25, 2021 10:01 AM (kTF2Z)

4 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at May 25, 2021 10:01 AM (MEF5V)

5 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:01 AM (LvTSG)

6 Walmart hates you.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 10:01 AM (JiM/8)

7 GREEN!

Posted by: Biden's Dog at May 25, 2021 10:01 AM (etqS9)

8 One of the most intelligent, insightful people I've ever read or listened to.

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2021 10:03 AM (AwYPR)

9 Thomas Sowell. Great American.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:03 AM (jvt6t)

10 13th!

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2021 10:03 AM (axyOa)

11 What fascinates me about Sowell's journey from Marxist to free-market conservative is that it was based entirely on reality. As his reality and perception of the world expanded, he changed to accommodate the new data, rather than rejecting it as so many supposed scholars do today.
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See also: America's greatest living jurist. Both are great men, and in neither case is it *because* of their skin color. We are better off for men like that, especially in this era, because they chose *not* to be seduced by the social constructionist mythos.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:03 AM (Jsjd7)

12 The "elites" are largely retards.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:04 AM (Lzpvj)

13 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 25, 2021 10:04 AM (arJlL)

14 I have found that Sowell's writings have aged better than Buckley's. Early Buckley was norm-shattering and provocative, but as he grew older and more respectable, his rodomontade vocabulary carried more heft than his ideas.

Sowell is worth reading and worth reflecting on at any point in his career.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2021 10:05 AM (2JVJo)

15 The "elites" are largely retards.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:04 AM (Lzpvj)
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I suspect you are correct, and that is a major source of the problem.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:05 AM (Jsjd7)

16 whoa hi all

Posted by: ungrateful servant at May 25, 2021 10:05 AM (BYNHj)

17 Justice Department appeals release of Barr memo used to clear Trump of obstruction

Posted by: SMOD at May 25, 2021 10:05 AM (avEKX)

18 Thomas Sowell is a national treasure.

Posted by: Guzalot at May 25, 2021 10:06 AM (Rz36l)

19 Walmart hates you.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 10:01 AM (JiM/

Can't hate me any more than I do.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2021 10:06 AM (2JVJo)

20 He didnt try to kill a cop, never beat his GF, and never committed a felony. Therefore he can not be a black hero.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 25, 2021 10:06 AM (YBE1o)

21 Sowell is admirable for his intellect and character. Everything I have ever read by him was worthwhile.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 25, 2021 10:06 AM (o2MD2)

22 12 The "elites" are largely retards.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:04 AM (Lzpvj)

The elites want money and don't give a fuck about anyone else.

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:06 AM (ONvIw)

23 Some of the biggest cases of mistaken identity are among intellectuals who have trouble remembering that they are not God.

Nice .

Well said, CBD !

Posted by: JT at May 25, 2021 10:07 AM (arJlL)

24 The problem with most "elites" is they have no business being part of the "elite" and they know it. So they have to come up with some grandiose, world saving movement like climate change to justify their pampered existence.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2021 10:07 AM (UuD2k)

25 Sowell is an actual elite, not a self appointed elite.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 25, 2021 10:07 AM (o2MD2)

26 15 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:05 AM (Jsjd7)

They value their place at the dog bowl line more than truth to a person.

I regret going to college at all in hindsight, I turned it into a 36,000 dollar hobby but it LITERALLY did not teach me ANYTHING I had not already started down the road to in honors classes in high school.

1990s campus idiocy was largely harmless poon and booze hounding, but even then you could see glimpses of the red army brigades they are minting.

I should have gone to trade school and worked in South America.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:08 AM (Lzpvj)

27 Sowell is a delight to listen to. It is a shame audio books became a thing so late in his life. Hearing his books in his voice would be amazing.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at May 25, 2021 10:08 AM (6Pqz7)

28 Weirdly enough Costco has no BLM mentions on its home page. Someone is about to get fired.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 25, 2021 10:08 AM (YBE1o)

29 Walmart hates you.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021

***

. . . but they are perfectly willing to accept your money. Rather like foreign countries who hate us but seize our foreign aid with both grubby fists.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2021 10:08 AM (/XOcP)

30 24 The problem with most "elites" is they have no business being part of the "elite" and they know it. So they have to come up with some grandiose, world saving movement like climate change to justify their pampered existence.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2021 10:07 AM (UuD2k)

And they make a lot of money transferring manufacturing to countries who don't worry about climate change, don't they?

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:08 AM (ONvIw)

31 Dr. Sowell is a national treasure.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 25, 2021 10:08 AM (ZWPVN)

32 The elites want money and don't give a fuck about anyone else.
Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:06 AM (ONvIw)
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Which is one of the indications that sven's comment is correct. Elites get to break the rules and wet their beaks because they are also generally effective and keep it in check.

Our elites have forgotten that, which is why they're now proceeding to ruin everything. It requires a light touch but their towering entitlement, arrogance (even hubris), contempt and stupidity have caused them to soak their beaks instead to the point where they'll be eating the seed grain and re-instituting slavery before long.

Then they will die, murdered in the tumult they caused. But not before everything blows up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:09 AM (Jsjd7)

33 22 Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:06 AM (ONvIw)

24 Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2021 10:07 AM (UuD2k)

25 Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 25, 2021 10:07 AM (o2MD2)

They have every vice of the French aristocracy with no attempt at the virtue of the 1890s philanthropist.

They think they can run you life from the 161st floor of a building.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:09 AM (Lzpvj)

34 I'm not sure I'd call the elites retards.
They are focused on maximizing their own power/comfort and therefore don't give a sh*t if the society around them falls apart. In fact, it is likely better for them. So if you presume they are trying to help the populace...then yes they look dumb, but that is NOT their goal.

If George Soros were to lose half his wealth, but the western middle class was reduced to medieval style serfdom, I'm pretty sure he would be happy with the trade.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2021 10:09 AM (DpkTQ)

35 I saw a funny, can't find the picture now. It was a hollowed-out copy of Sowell's Basic Economics, with the caption "Socialist-proof book safe."

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 25, 2021 10:10 AM (PiwSw)

36 Sowell exudes wisdom, common sense and decency... all qualities sorely lacking among our "elites"

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2021 10:10 AM (pcsoT)

37 +1 One of my heroes. Remember first reading Mr. Sowell's syndicated columns back in the mid-80's Wall Street Journal and other rags as I was becoming politically aware.

Posted by: Dominion Voting Systems at May 25, 2021 10:10 AM (Q87rR)

38 If George Soros were to lose half his wealth, but the western middle
class was reduced to medieval style serfdom, I'm pretty sure he would be
happy with the trade.

That proves he's a retard and his shit is all fucked up.

Posted by: Archer at May 25, 2021 10:10 AM (gmo/4)

39 /off evil sock

Posted by: ShainS at May 25, 2021 10:11 AM (Q87rR)

40 . . . but they are perfectly willing to accept your money. Rather like
foreign countries who hate us but seize our foreign aid with both grubby
fists.
Or any number of illegals, H1Bs, and even "new citizens".

Please, tell me how much America sucks now that you've moved here and are making 10x or more then you did back home.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2021 10:11 AM (DpkTQ)

41 +1 One of my heroes. Remember first reading Mr. Sowell's syndicated columns back in the mid-80's Wall Street Journal and other rags as I was becoming politically aware.
Posted by: Dominion Voting Systems at May 25, 2021 10:10 AM (Q87rR)
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You clearly lost your way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:11 AM (Jsjd7)

42 Goucher College grads are part of the elite. Right?
- Jonah G

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 25, 2021 10:11 AM (YBE1o)

43 The first time I saw Sowell was when PBS inexplicably showed Milton Friedman's Free to Choose series. It was pretty easy to tell that he'd receive the brunt of the left's racism for which they're never called out. It was also obvious he couldn't care less what those numbskulls said.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 25, 2021 10:11 AM (y7DUB)

44 Goucher College grads are part of the elite. Right?
- Jonah G
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 25, 2021 10:11 AM (YBE1o)
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Your problem - like so many, you're not alone - is that you think your diploma is your certification of elite status, rather than your behavior or accomplishments.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:12 AM (Jsjd7)

45 Dr. Sowell is a national treasure.

Can we make this into a movie?

Posted by: Nic Cage needs to make a car payment at May 25, 2021 10:12 AM (h5TKJ)

46 The elites want money and don't give a fuck about anyone else.

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:06 AM (ONvIw)

"...show bizness kids making movies of themselves, you know they don't give a fuck about anybody else...it's outrageous!"

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2021 10:12 AM (AwYPR)

47 The problem with most "elites" is they have no business being part of the "elite" and they know it. So they have to come up with some grandiose, world saving movement like climate change to justify their pampered existence.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2021 10:07 AM (UuD2k)

you know, things like this make me wonder if the breakups of the robber barrons and monopolies of the early 20th century weren't a bad idea. i mean, free markets and capitalism and all, but at the same point, i wasn't stricken with the idea that those guys were more interested in returning to the old lord and serf model, especially when compared to our current crop of "elites".

but that might just be because i don't have enough knowledge of the history and people then...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:12 AM (8D42x)

48 Combing impressive intellect with common sense is the most potent brew of brilliance. That's Sowell to me.

The rest seem to lack the common sense part.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 25, 2021 10:12 AM (4fSQf)

49 34 Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2021 10:09 AM (DpkTQ)

They were handed the wealthiest nation on Earth that has elevated them to power and ease of living not enjoyed by Roman Patricians and are destroying it.

I guess there is a hidden genius in there.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:12 AM (Lzpvj)

50 Bring back rodeo monkey.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 25, 2021 10:13 AM (JUOKG)

51
Then they will die, murdered in the tumult they caused. But not before everything blows up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:09 AM (Jsjd7)

Everyone dies, and they are not concerned about tumult.
Back when my husband was getting his PhD, a fellow student turned away from academia and went into business. He got plenty of money from M&A but moved into outsourcing, saying it would improve the "environment" and that the lower prices would compensate Westerners for massive job loss. He was just greedy. Now at about 80, the camel is about to meet the eye of the needle and he's looking for a way out while keeping every cent for "generational wealth". I had no words of comfort.

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:13 AM (ONvIw)

52 Walmart hates you.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021

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. . . but they are perfectly willing to accept your money. Rather like foreign countries who hate us but seize our foreign aid with both grubby fists.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2021 10:08 AM (/XOcP)

And we're perfectly willing to keep giving them money, which is why these assholes feel free to shove this garbage in our faces. If the mythical "70 million pissed off Trump voters" were really pissed off and acted on it, these damned woke companies would be bankrupt in a week. But no, the local Chik-Fil-A franchise donates to the church. But no, the local Wal-Mart has cheap clothes for work. But no, Facebook's how I keep up with my friends.

**throws up hands**

And yes, I sell my books on Amazon. I'm a fucking hypocrite. Find me someone else who wants to sell books about a dead silent film star and I'll move.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2021 10:13 AM (2JVJo)

53 Thomas Sowell is a true genius, IMHO. Smart people in DC should be hanging on his every word and making policy decisions around them, but they don't. Prolly due to the last quote CBD posted about mistaken identity.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 25, 2021 10:13 AM (HaL55)

54 38 Posted by: Archer at May 25, 2021 10:10 AM (gmo/4)

Soros would do well to learn the lesson of the Imperial Germans who unleashed Lenin on the world.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:13 AM (Lzpvj)

55 The rest seem to lack the common sense part.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 25, 2021 10:12 AM

Sense, common, one each, Type II, Style B.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (JUOKG)

56 Mary Poppins, good morning. Buckley was a Skull and Bones gatekeeper -- he can't be trusted.

But Dr. Sowell is a brilliant and brave voice for truth.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (mUj40)

57 They were handed the wealthiest nation on Earth that has elevated them
to power and ease of living not enjoyed by Roman Patricians and are
destroying it.
I guess there is a hidden genius in there.
Better to rule in hell then live a middle class life in Rockwell's America.

Posted by: Stuff Satan said, probably volume 666 at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (DpkTQ)

58 Test-driving new hash.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (hooDY)

59 Can anyone recommend a news link aggregator besides here that just states the news and a link? Liberty Daily has become a Drudge or World News Daily scream fest. Every headline is full on conspiracy nuttiness.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (lMp/Q)

60 The elites are only elite because people listen to their ideas. If everyone were to LOLGF them they would no longer be elites.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (YBE1o)

61 Better to rule in hell then live a middle class life in Rockwell's America.
Posted by: Stuff Satan said, probably volume 666 at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (DpkTQ)
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I have summed up the attitude of the power-mad neofuedalists as, "I don't care how the shitty the hill is, so long as I am king of it."

I don't know if this is right, but it's the impression that I get.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:15 AM (Jsjd7)

62 It's neat that this (most exceptional) country produces Sowells with such frequency. Almost as though our political system and culture expedited it.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 25, 2021 10:15 AM (KATBx)

63 If everyone were to LOLGF them they would no longer be elites.
Let me introduce you to these men with guns over here who are going to put you in a cell if you don't follow my new brilliant plan for saving the earth.

Posted by: Some Elite at May 25, 2021 10:16 AM (DpkTQ)

64 Joe Biden is elite. So it seems a land crab can be "elite" if his politics are stupid enough.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 25, 2021 10:16 AM (o2MD2)

65 34 I'm not sure I'd call the elites retards.
They are focused on maximizing their own power/comfort and therefore don't give a sh*t if the society around them falls apart. In fact, it is likely better for them. So if you presume they are trying to help the populace...then yes they look dumb, but that is NOT their goal.

If George Soros were to lose half his wealth, but the western middle class was reduced to medieval style serfdom, I'm pretty sure he would be happy with the trade.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2021 10:09 AM (DpkTQ)

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They're retards because they're short-sighted and not thinking long-term, willing to trade immediate comfort and power in exchange for a world where their progeny (what most non-retards value more than even themselves) for leaving their progeny an eventual worldwide death camp where THEY will be among the first tortured and slaughtered.

Posted by: ShainS at May 25, 2021 10:16 AM (Q87rR)

66 Can anyone recommend a news link aggregator besides here that just states the news and a link? Liberty Daily has become a Drudge or World News Daily scream fest. Every headline is full on conspiracy nuttiness.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (lMp/Q)

Whatfinger?

I mostly just check JJ and then scan Google News so I can get good and angry. Start the day with rage, I say.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:16 AM (ifmtJ)

67 I regret going to college at all in hindsight, I turned it into a 36,000 dollar hobby but it LITERALLY did not teach me ANYTHING I had not already started down the road to in honors classes in high school.

1990s campus idiocy was largely harmless poon and booze hounding, but even then you could see glimpses of the red army brigades they are minting.

I should have gone to trade school and worked in South America.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:08 AM (Lzpvj)

while nothing wrong with the alternative you proposed, and it crossed my mind too, since i'm a Mech Eng, i needed schooling to get in this door. Granted i'm not doing a lot of engineering work now, and am more reliability and lubrication focused, but for the hard degrees, i do think school is required. but probably 50% plus don't actually need more than 20 hours in a school to figure out what they'll be useful for...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:17 AM (8D42x)

68 If the right had any kind of organizational skills, on he scale of BLM or unions, we could make a difference. Imagine no Trump voter bought anything at Walmart for a week. That would be one hell of a fucking message.

But our side is never capable or organizing anything like that.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 25, 2021 10:17 AM (YBE1o)

69 "Do you see a man wise in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him." - Proverbs 26:12

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:17 AM (um4AQ)

70 61 I have summed up the attitude of the power-mad neofuedalists as, "I don't care how the shitty the hill is, so long as I am king of it."

I don't know if this is right, but it's the impression that I get.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:15 AM (Jsjd7)

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"As long as you acknowledge that I'm better than you."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:17 AM (LvTSG)

71 /edit fail

Posted by: ShainS at May 25, 2021 10:17 AM (Q87rR)

72 They're retards because they're short-sighted and not thinking long-term, willing to trade immediate comfort and power in exchange for a world where their progeny (what most non-retards value more than even themselves) for leaving their progeny an eventual worldwide death camp where THEY will be among the first tortured and slaughtered.
Posted by: ShainS at May 25, 2021 10:16 AM (Q87rR)

They'll be doing the torturing.

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:18 AM (ONvIw)

73 Better to rule in hell then live a middle class life in Rockwell's America.
Posted by: Stuff Satan said, probably volume 666 at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (DpkTQ)

There's humility in middle class life in Rockwell's America. How can the whole world celebrate how unique and special I am if I'm being humble?

Posted by: The Self Esteem Movement at May 25, 2021 10:18 AM (Wm5SB)

74 Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman are on my Mt. Rushmore of Dudes that Understand How Social Things Work In the Macro. I haven't filled in the last two spots. They grab the first two precisely because they don't promise something for nothing. They don't assume people will just "do good". As Friedman once asked Phil Donahue - "Where are all these angels ?".

I think Economics is just a bunch of folks pushing Politics under a different name. I think Sowell and Friedman were the exception.

Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 10:18 AM (ILmBq)

75 "If anyone can lift economics out of the miasma of politics and mushy-headed thinking, and into a discipline that values the Scientific method, It is Thomas Sowell."

Well, he's been trying for decades now & economics is still little more than haruspicy with numbers sprinkled about.

Posted by: aelfheld at May 25, 2021 10:19 AM (Zy9Yy)

76
They're retards because they're short-sighted and not thinking long-term,
Most of the elites I know don't believe in a long term. They do think enviro catastrophes are going to wreck everything soon anyway so why not party like its 1999? And since they don't believe in heaven or hell either, why not visit Epstein island, or destroy that person you disagree with, or snort that drug?

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2021 10:19 AM (DpkTQ)

77 Test-driving new hash.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (hooDY)

That is awesome, AOP!!!

Posted by: Doof at May 25, 2021 10:19 AM (mZUr4)

78 Thomas Sowell is an amazing man. I really wish more blacks or for that matter Democrats would read his works. Doing so would be a huge wake up call for them.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2021 10:19 AM (NpAcC)

79 72 Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:18 AM (ONvIw)

"Good luck"

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:19 AM (Lzpvj)

80 This is a painfully stupid yet clever headline from the NYT:
Attacks on Jews Over Israel Are a Gift to the Right

First, the stupid part. Attacks on Jews aren't wrong. Aren't evil. Aren't an attempt to intimidate a minority out of their Constitutional rights. No...the problem with attacks on Jews is that they're are a "gift" to the right.

Now, the clever part.
If you read the article, the problem is that Progtard/Leftard/Communist/BLM/antiftard support gives the "Right" a talking point and means to engage and turn the Jewish vote.

However, for the casual headline reader - "Attacks on Jews Over Israel Are a Gift to the Right" can mean that those terrible attacks on Jews make the "Right" happy cuz of course they support attacks on Jews.

Thus, the wrongs of the Left become attached to the Right in the minds of the LowIQ flunkies of the Left.

Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2021 10:20 AM (dWwl8)

81 "As long as you acknowledge that I'm better than you."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:17 AM (LvTSG)
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Something like this, yes. Which doesn't work in America (well, didn't). We actually had a pretty damn flat society. We had rich and poor, of course, and sometimes vast chasms between them. But the elites didn't get to play that particular card. They were unable to claim that they were inherently, morally superior because of their position. No one would buy that at any price and scale.

That's a problem if you're an aristocrat. What's the point if you can't lord it over the serfs? What good is it being rich when the poor are pretty rich, too? You have a giant house and fancy cars and fine furniture - but the proles have houses and cars and furniture, too. It varies only by degree. There's no point in any of this if your goal is to rule and command and possess at their expense.

This is exactly the attitude that brings about sumptuary laws.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:20 AM (Jsjd7)

82 The elites want money and don't give a fuck about anyone else.
The egotistical "elites" want to pull the ladder up behind them, abandoning an American Principle of wanting everyone else to become prosperous as well. To me, that's the dividing line between self-interest and greed.

They don't appear capable of putting themselves in someone else's position and don't stop to think how they'd feel if someone did the same thing to them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (HaL55)

83 There's humility in middle class life in Rockwell's America. How can the whole world celebrate how unique and special I am if I'm being humble?

Posted by: The Self Esteem Movement at May 25, 2021 10:18 AM (Wm5SB)

What/how do you identify?....We'll create some kind of niche and hype the hell out of it and make you a victim as well.

Posted by: BignJames at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (AwYPR)

84 I think Economics is just a bunch of folks pushing Politics under a different name. I think Sowell and Friedman were the exception.

Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 10:18 AM (ILmBq)

I've seen no evidence that ambulatory lice colony called Krugman understands supply and demand curves.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (y7DUB)

85 Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2021 10:19 AM (DpkTQ)

The elites I know are old and there is no long term. The one who is worried about "eternity" is actually looking to find solace in a religion with "no afterlife", because then greed is cool and comfortable and he need not worry about the destruction in his wake.

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (ONvIw)

86 81 That's a problem if you're an aristocrat. What's the point if you can't lord it over the serfs? What good is it being rich when the poor are pretty rich, too? You have a giant house and fancy cars and fine furniture - but the proles have houses and cars and furniture, too. It varies only by degree. There's no point in any of this if your goal is to rule and command and possess at their expense.

This is exactly the attitude that brings about sumptuary laws.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:20 AM (Jsjd7)

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Think they'd be happy if we outlawed smart phones and social media for everyone not in the elite?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (LvTSG)

87 The malignant ghost of Walter Duranty still haunts and possesses those of the New York Times.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (um4AQ)

88 #19-Mary Poppins PPP-

Please ask God to help you stop hating yourself. Too much o your time has been spent in that way:

https://www.thehopeline.com/topics/hate-yourself/

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (k39e/)

89 66. Mark thank you. I do not mind the rightward bend (Whatfinger seems rational). LD has gone off the rails.

Posted by: Jen the original at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (lMp/Q)

90 Sadly the reason that Sowell's views aren't more broadly held is no one cares about the success or failures of ideas in the real world anymore.

Did the War on Poverty end poverty? No? But we meant well!
Will the New Green Deal do...anything outside of make some corporatists wealthy and a lot of normies poorer? No. But we meant well!

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2021 10:22 AM (DpkTQ)

91 73 Posted by: The Self Esteem Movement at May 25, 2021 10:18 AM (Wm5SB)

The cult of self-esteem shows how warped the retail transactions of the human psychology have become.

Self-esteem is a gift you give yourself through your behaviors to the world as judged by your peers.

It is not a gift from your peers to you based on how you judge yourself.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:22 AM (Lzpvj)

92 Test-driving new hash.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (hooDY)

hoody hoo

sounds like my better half going into the attic, trying to see if anything is up there... lol

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:22 AM (8D42x)

93 Sowell? He cribbed all my best shit.

Posted by: Krugman at May 25, 2021 10:22 AM (jvt6t)

94 Neil deGrasse Tyson is the one who was chosen for his color, not his intellect.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2021 10:22 AM (trdmm)

95 Big Thomas Sowell fan here. I was reading him long before I knew he was black and that was only because a former friend of mine called him Uncle Tom. Dude, have you read anything by him because it's spot on.

His response, only what others have told me.

Me: so you call him Uncle Tom b/c of what others have said. You might want to read his works first and then let's see what you say.

We no longer talk...

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at May 25, 2021 10:22 AM (+ldAm)

96 Nic Cage, great idea:

Trailer: BLM kidnaps Dr. Sowell from a national conservative event to silence him about slavery, reparations, and communism.

Thomas Sowell Book Club members and event attendees Nic Cage, James Caan, Clint Eastwood, and Mel Gibson swing into action...but will they rescue him in time?

Directed by Clint Eastwood.

Script by John Milius.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 25, 2021 10:22 AM (mUj40)

97 84 I've seen no evidence that ambulatory lice colony called Krugman understands supply and demand curves.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (y7DUB)

==========

I believe that Krugman has said he was was inspired by Asimov's vision of psychohistory in The Foundation books.

A field of mathematics that could predict with perfect accuracy the future, which was a fantastical element in a science fiction series of books.

Our elite, ladies and gentlemen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:23 AM (LvTSG)

98 My college experience is like Sven's. Though I will give ISU some credit, in the 88-93 range there was still education going on there. I got exposed to Biology, History, Drama and the basics of English composition. It fed my desire to learn things. And going to school there did give me just enough accreditation and exposure to computer tech to allow me to get into the IT trade.

But yeah, unless you're an engineer or a serious scholar, you can be better served with community college or a trade school.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:23 AM (ifmtJ)

99 92 Test-driving new hash.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 25, 2021 10:14 AM (hooDY)

Like, hey, man, are you sharing??

Posted by: Tommy Chong at May 25, 2021 10:23 AM (jvt6t)

100 Think they'd be happy if we outlawed smart phones and social media for everyone not in the elite?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (LvTSG)
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No. What will make them happy - or so they think - is to turn us into modern serfs who are wholly dependent on them. They want us renting our homes from them, leasing our appliances from them, buying our food from them, even gaining a chunk (or all) of our monthly income from them (on average, anyway, in the lower classes).

They want us in thrall, and nothing short of that will satisfy them. They laid this out in basically plain language in their "Great Reset" plans and desires. Rulers have no use for free men. They want only subservient dependents who kowtow and kill their feet.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:24 AM (Jsjd7)

101 A field of mathematics that could predict with perfect accuracy the
future, which was a fantastical element in a science fiction series of
books.
Who was the guy that wrote the End of History back in...92?

Because as we know nothing of interest has happened since then.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2021 10:24 AM (DpkTQ)

102 Does Paulie still call himself Krugtron?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:24 AM (um4AQ)

103 "resented attempts by some thoughtless Harvardians to assimilate me, based on the assumption that the supreme honor they could bestow was to allow me to become like them"

This statement says a lot. Western Civ' is great, but it seems to take a breaking of old systems (old wineskins, broken cisterns) to "progress" into something better. Our founders had experience with Kings and Popes running roughshod over the "free" people, and gave us an exceptional new system that restrained those that would be king.

Sowell's race (maybe) helped him perceive some of the Old blue blood system that tried to make him one of them, after he displayed his own competence. I don't know his specifics, but his clear mind seems to have emerged beyond the old school system restraints, to produce his own (academic) good fruit.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 25, 2021 10:24 AM (Cus5s)

104 "Good luck"
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:19 AM (Lzpvj)

It is not for nothing that US corporations held create the means by which China surveils and controls its people.

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:25 AM (ONvIw)

105 101 Who was the guy that wrote the End of History back in...92?

Because as we know nothing of interest has happened since then.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 25, 2021 10:24 AM (DpkTQ)

==========

"I can't imagine a world without the Cold War because I'm the smart guy."
-Francis Fukuyama

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:25 AM (LvTSG)

106 the 'elites' want us in debt to the company store.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:25 AM (um4AQ)

107
Think they'd be happy if we outlawed smart phones and social media for everyone not in the elite?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (LvTSG)

It would simply be enough to make Royal Purple iPhone with a Special Elite Gold Apple Logo for $5K per.

And some extra neat functions particular to that phone only.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 25, 2021 10:25 AM (dWwl8)

108 102 Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:24 AM (um4AQ)

His side-kick is H.A Cker by day and "PedoBear" by night....

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:25 AM (Lzpvj)

109 OT: So exciting! I saw our subdivision's resident coyote this morning!

I live in suburban Michigan. Hogmartin blames Whitchmer, as he does for all evil portents and strange phenomena.

Our new resident looks like a wolf's mangey tweaker cousin.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at May 25, 2021 10:25 AM (Dc2NZ)

110 Walmart hates you.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 10:01 AM (JiM/

Can't hate me any more than I do.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2021 10:06 AM (2JVJo)

sorry MP4 but got a laugh out of me on this one.

I know you're serious and I really do pray you can help get through this and feel better about yourself and life around you.

but i laughed.

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:25 AM (8D42x)

111 I've seen no evidence that ambulatory lice colony called Krugman understands supply and demand curves.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 25, 2021 10:21 AM (y7DUB)

Hell - I see no reason why I couldn't walk away with every dime in Krugman's pocket on a poker table. Or a high stakes checker match. Or any other fair measure of intellect where prior knowledge isn't required.

Krugman is just another example of what many here are saying. Back in the day, one could go from the penthouse to the shit-house, and the other way around, relatively quickly. That alone tends to sharpen the mind. That's a meritocracy. What we've got is unending bureaucracy.

Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 10:26 AM (ILmBq)

112 I believe that Krugman has said he was was inspired by Asimov's vision of psychohistory in The Foundation books.

A field of mathematics that could predict with perfect accuracy the future, which was a fantastical element in a science fiction series of books.

Our elite, ladies and gentlemen.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:23 AM (LvTSG)

That's how he predicted ten of the last two recessions.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at May 25, 2021 10:26 AM (y7DUB)

113 Self-esteem is a gift you give yourself through your behaviors to the world as judged by your peers.

It is not a gift from your peers to you based on how you judge yourself.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:22 AM (Lzpvj)
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Yes. Self esteem is absolutely crucial to survival. We all need it. It also has to be earned. Ersatz self esteem granted without cost and unearned is useless and corrosive. It destroys self worth.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:26 AM (Jsjd7)

114 I discovered Sowell many years ago when his opinion column was printed in the daily rag. His view of the world is so rational it scares the hell out of any kind with an IQ actually high enough to read his works.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at May 25, 2021 10:26 AM (yD4aV)

115 Fen, thank you for that link. I'm going off to rest before work, so I will read it over a cup of tea.

You are a lovely woman. Thank you for thinking of me.

See you all later.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 25, 2021 10:26 AM (2JVJo)

116 104 Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:25 AM (ONvIw)

Everybody's gangsta until their opponents start network mapping and engaging in reciprocity of their own.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:26 AM (Lzpvj)

117 On the minus side: wrong about ecomonics every single time
On the plus side: guilty as sin on the CP charges but free as a bird.

I'd call that a W

Posted by: Paul Krugman at May 25, 2021 10:27 AM (DpkTQ)

118 Our new resident looks like a wolf's mangey tweaker cousin.

So Wylie Coyote is still around...

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:28 AM (um4AQ)

119 Years ago I worked with a number of scientists, mostly biology PhD's but one had a PhD in math. They were all more or less "smart" in their narrow field of expertise, but beyond that, they were dumb as a bag of dicks. And some of the most petty, thin skinned and vindictive people I've ever met.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2021 10:28 AM (3H9h1)

120 Hi all.

Lurking. But around.

Be well. Oh, and Richard Marx is a slimy has been.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 25, 2021 10:28 AM (2BgZB)

121 My college experience is like Sven's. Though I
will give ISU some credit, in the 88-93 range there was still education
going on there. I got exposed to Biology, History, Drama and the basics
of English composition. It fed my desire to learn things. And going to
school there did give me just enough accreditation and exposure to
computer tech to allow me to get into the IT trade.

But yeah, unless you're an engineer or a serious scholar, you can be better served with community college or a trade school.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:23 AM

I did the part time college stuff in the Navy for quite a few years, no degree but I did take a bunch of classes. Other than hard math classes my experience was it was about 85% the "instructor" assigns a book to read and then at the end has you write a paper about what you learned from that book. The other 15% is what you talked about in class.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 25, 2021 10:28 AM (JUOKG)

122 MP4 --

Please listen to the song "Tunnel" from the Christian band Third Day.

https://youtu.be/S7V5t9ECZXo

Posted by: Doof at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (mZUr4)

123 Be well. Oh, and Richard Marx is a slimy has been.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 25, 2021 10:28 AM (2BgZB)

What's up WD. Hope you're doing well.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (jvt6t)

124 That's how he predicted ten of the last two recessions.

***

One of my favorite recent Krugman's was near or immediately after Barry won the first time when he stated that Obama would need 240K jobs *minimum* at each report just to tread water.

Barry never got it, of course.

And it was like it never happened. Best economy ever because reasons.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Medical school determined even mild COVID-19 induces lifetime of antibody protection at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (XTk1T)

125 119 Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2021 10:28 AM (3H9h1)

Indeed, I have never met anyone dumber about human psychology than a materials engineer.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (Lzpvj)

126 And some of the most petty, thin skinned and vindictive people I've ever met.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2021 10:28 AM (3H9h1)

As my husband used to say "academic types motto is: you scratch my back or I'll scratch your eyes out"

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (ONvIw)

127 Thomas Sowell is an amazing man. I really wish more blacks or for that matter Democrats would read his works. Doing so would be a huge wake up call for them.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2021 10:19 AM (NpAcC)

Hell, i wish more people nominally on "our" side would read him.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (6FeV1)

128 People miss a message in "1984" when they talk about Inner Party, Outer Party, Big Brother,etc, etc.

Proles. It's good to be a prole in "1984" as long as you do not oppose The Party and like booze, sex, gambling, movies, football, manual labor and living at the lower economic spectrum.

Proles and animals are free......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (ddM9D)

129 and now first wave is playing an unedited "add it up" by the violent femmes.

how much better can today get?

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (8D42x)

130 I believe that Krugman has said he was was inspired by Asimov's vision of psychohistory in The Foundation books.

A field of mathematics that could predict with perfect accuracy the future, which was a fantastical element in a science fiction series of books.

A field that, by IIRC the second or third book, was waaaaaaayy off in its predictions and required constant meddling/maintenance to keep things on target.

Great job all around, guys. Gold stars and cake for everyone.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 25, 2021 10:30 AM (l8gTz)

131 118 Our new resident looks like a wolf's mangey tweaker cousin.

So Wylie Coyote is still around...
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:28 AM (um4AQ)

He didn't have a large ACME box in tow by chance?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:30 AM (jvt6t)

132 But yeah, unless you're an engineer or a serious scholar, you can be better served with community college or a trade school.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:23 AM
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I was driving out of the city next door last week and I saw a billboard that made a very blunt and very concise statement that probably makes a lot of people angry. It was on the highway right near the university.

It has a picture of a man in a high-vis vest carrying some sort of large tool (I didn't catch what it was). The text on the billboard said, "Avoid student debt. Learn a trade."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:30 AM (Jsjd7)

133 98 - Mark Andrew Edwards: ISU = Iowa State University? That is my alma mater; I was there in the 80s... degrees in engineering.

To get a job in engineering and do it effectively, one does need college. Unfortunately, to learn engineering or science these days, a student has to be exposed to the campus lunacy...

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2021 10:31 AM (pcsoT)

134 Indeed, I have never met anyone dumber about human psychology than a materials engineer.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (Lzpvj)

Hey!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2021 10:31 AM (6FeV1)

135 Years ago I worked with a number of scientists, mostly biology PhD's but one had a PhD in math. They were all more or less "smart" in their narrow field of expertise, but beyond that, they were dumb as a bag of dicks. And some of the most petty, thin skinned and vindictive people I've ever met.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 25, 2021 10:28 AM (3H9h1)
**

It's like that old truism is true for a reason.

All my kids were born smart, but the longer they stayed in school the dumber they became.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Medical school determined even mild COVID-19 induces lifetime of antibody protection at May 25, 2021 10:31 AM (4lxb3)

136 So today is Saint George day... I see biden is having the grifters, I mean Floyds family to the WH to commemorate the death of this pillar of Society

Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2021 10:32 AM (Zmnko)

137 134 Indeed, I have never met anyone dumber about human psychology than a materials engineer.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (Lzpvj)

Hey!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2021 10:31 AM (6FeV1)

....and that's when the fight started....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:32 AM (jvt6t)

138 Our new resident looks like a wolf's mangey tweaker cousin.

So Wylie Coyote is still around...
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:28 AM (um4AQ)

beware random Acme boxes in the subdivision...

and howdy WD, good to see you pop in.

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:32 AM (8D42x)

139 So today is Saint George day... I see biden is having the grifters, I mean Floyds family to the WH to commemorate the death of this pillar of Society
Posted by: It's me donna at May 25, 2021 10:32 AM (Zmnko)
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And Wal-Mart is flying the Black Flag of Wokeness on their homepage.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:32 AM (Jsjd7)

140 130 A field that, by IIRC the second or third book, was waaaaaaayy off in its predictions and required constant meddling/maintenance to keep things on target.

Great job all around, guys. Gold stars and cake for everyone.
Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 25, 2021 10:30 AM (l8gTz)

===========

And failed to predict The Mule.

But I think the constant maintenance was part of the appeal. Economists were in control and would maintain control forever. It's like Plato's Republic in a way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:32 AM (LvTSG)

141 Maybe the Floyds and Bidets will smoke a Fentanyl Peace Pipe

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:32 AM (um4AQ)

142 But I think the constant maintenance was part of the appeal. Economists were in control and would maintain control forever. It's like Plato's Republic in a way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:32 AM (LvTSG)
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It's run of the mill technocracy.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:33 AM (Jsjd7)

143 Indeed, I have never met anyone dumber about human psychology than a materials engineer.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (Lzpvj)

Only thing that kept me sane was the inability, back in '90, to afford access to the schools I qualified for - taking an Engineering Technology degree instead - and working on-site with the electricians, fitters, millwrights, and such for the last thirty years. I am not joking in the slightest. I used to be really, really pissed that I couldn't go to the places that I was accepted to. Now ? Fuck, I dodged a bullet and didn't know it.

Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 10:33 AM (ILmBq)

144 Maybe the Floyds and Bidets will smoke a Fentanyl Peace Pipe
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:32 AM (um4AQ)
++++
That'll happen at the after-party with Hunter.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:33 AM (Jsjd7)

145 Indeed, I have never met anyone dumber about human psychology than a materials engineer.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (Lzpvj)

Hey!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2021 10:31 AM (6FeV1)

idk, i know some nukes that would probably give them a run or their money...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:33 AM (8D42x)

146 141 Maybe the Floyds and Bidets will smoke a Fentanyl Peace Pipe
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:32 AM (um4AQ)

Newsletter?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:33 AM (jvt6t)

147 Sowell and Thomas are similar. Both rejected the 'truth' that was selected for them and recognize cause and effect better than most.

Posted by: Just a side note at May 25, 2021 10:33 AM (2DOZq)

148 142 But I think the constant maintenance was part of the appeal. Economists were in control and would maintain control forever. It's like Plato's Republic in a way.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:32 AM (LvTSG)
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It's run of the mill technocracy.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:33 AM (Jsjd7)

========

Except this time it worked because the right people were in charge.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:33 AM (LvTSG)

149 and now first wave is playing an unedited "add it up" by the violent femmes.

how much better can today get?
Posted by: SturmToddler

****

"Hole zees bier."
- Laibach, 80s industrial cover of the Beatles Get Back

https://youtu.be/7IEi7hxiy5g

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Medical school determined even mild COVID-19 induces lifetime of antibody protection at May 25, 2021 10:34 AM (4lxb3)

150 12 The "elites" are largely retards.
Posted by: sven

Inbreeding. Our political class has some similarities to the Royal Families at the beginning of the 20th Century. That usually leads to "Interesting Times".

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 25, 2021 10:34 AM (Kx65K)

151 OT...
FOX News web site has one of those collage pictures that includes the WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY.

Begs the question, why is it in English?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2021 10:34 AM (axyOa)

152 134 Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2021 10:31 AM (6FeV1)

Forgive me, I am speaking in the micro as in "a guy" brilliant at his field but dumber literally than a stump on the human element.

Was fond of asserting that people can and should be forced to do "x" on climate.

You could tell he had not exerted an ounce of thought on psychology in his academic life.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:34 AM (Lzpvj)

153 All my kids were born smart, but the longer they stayed in school the dumber they became.
Old joke from back home in Alabama: "Have you been to college?"

"Not enough to hurt."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 25, 2021 10:35 AM (HaL55)

154 and now first wave is playing an unedited "add it up" by the violent femmes.

how much better can today get?
Posted by: SturmToddler

****
"Hole zees bier."
- Laibach, 80s industrial cover of the Beatles Get Back

https://youtu.be/7IEi7hxiy5g
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Medical school determined even mild COVID-19 induces lifetime of antibody protection at May 25, 2021 10:34 AM (4lxb3)

you sir are a great american...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:35 AM (8D42x)

155 talk about the elites sparked a thought I had about the Entertainment biz, while reading Ace's post about "The Eternals" yesterday. It occurred to me that what the Entertainment biz is doing is analagus to what the Big 3 auto manufacturers did starting in the 70's and through the 80's. In the 50's and 60's, the Big 3 in Detroit put out beautiful designs, fantastic vehicles that everyone wanted, and they completely dominated world auto sales. Starting in the 70's, they began to believe that people would buy whatever they sold no matter what, just because they were so great, and it didn't matter if it looked like crap, ran like crap, and cost way too much. Now only Ford is left in something close to it's old form, and even GM is just a pale shadow of the company that used to dominate the world.

They didn't believe they could be replaced. But they were, and quite easily. It'll happen to the "entertainment" companies like Disney, Marvel, and others much much faster.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2021 10:35 AM (trdmm)

156 150 Posted by: Puddleglum at May 25, 2021 10:34 AM (Kx65K)

They are going to eventually rerun WW1 with WMDs.

"Yay"

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:35 AM (Lzpvj)

157 You could tell he had not exerted an ounce of thought on psychology in his academic life.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:34 AM (Lzpvj)

I know, i was just feigning disdain

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2021 10:36 AM (6FeV1)

158 Monty Python's Upper Class Twits in charge...

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:36 AM (um4AQ)

159 The Lena Dunham of fighter airplanes.

https://youtu.be/mQ0ZQesixms

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2021 10:36 AM (VVEnO)

160 "Think they'd be happy if we outlawed smart phones and social media for everyone not in the elite?"

"Smart Phones" are a control and propaganda tool, the new version of an ankle chain. The corrupted "elite" want less mobility, "stop clogging our our European vacation sties with your fat bodies". Higher energy helps Russia/Iran, but also punishes the less wealthy.

The bailouts for billionaires, and military and monetary policy used to inflate corporate stocks made the money runners mega rich. Small business was still vital, but Plandemic stabbed them in the back, along with the working "poor".

Posted by: illiniwek at May 25, 2021 10:36 AM (Cus5s)

161 Vampires can quote the constitution and Bible.

They are burning in slow motion. Try the. Popcorn.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at May 25, 2021 10:36 AM (DAylg)

162 Posted by: Puddleglum at May 25, 2021 10:34 AM (Kx65K)

They are going to eventually rerun WW1 with WMDs.

"Yay"
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:35 AM (Lzpvj)

Twilight 200 comes to real life? hope it's the version 2.2 rule set.

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:37 AM (8D42x)

163 Moron Robbie, did you know Thomas Sowell was born in Gastonia?

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 25, 2021 10:37 AM (PiwSw)

164 143 Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 10:33 AM (ILmBq)

I dreamt of being a constitutional scholar/lawyer....

I am glad I did not go down that rabbit hole.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:37 AM (Lzpvj)

165 151 OT...
FOX News web site has one of those collage pictures that includes the WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY.

Begs the question, why is it in English?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2021 10:34 AM (axyOa)

Since the US Government through Fauci paid to set it all up, it's only right that we got to put up the sign.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2021 10:37 AM (trdmm)

166 Crater warfare > trench warfare

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2021 10:37 AM (6FeV1)

167 Mark Andrew Edwards: ISU = Iowa State University? That is my alma mater; I was there in the 80s... degrees in engineering.

To get a job in engineering and do it effectively, one does need college. Unfortunately, to learn engineering or science these days, a student has to be exposed to the campus lunacy...
Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2021 10:31 AM (pcsoT)

Yep, old Moo U. Not a bad college, not as overrun by stupid the way U of I was....dodged a bullet there as I was a Hawkeyes fan.

Iowa State was a good engineering school. I had several friends who at least started out as engineering majors....all but one of them dropped out...but still hung around Ames.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:38 AM (ifmtJ)

168 159 The Lena Dunham of fighter airplanes.

https://youtu.be/mQ0ZQesixms
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2021 10:36 AM (VVEnO)

That's hideous.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:38 AM (jvt6t)

169 And failed to predict The Mule.

But I think the constant maintenance was part of the appeal. Economists were in control and would maintain control forever. It's like Plato's Republic in a way.

That all being said, the *purpose* of psychohistory and the Foundation(s) was noble-- they predicted thousands of years of barbarism and Dark Ages, and then the goal was to blunt the effects and reduce the time before a new Renaissance.

But the arc is kind of fun:
1. Here's this new science! Yay!
2. ohmygosh it's broken BOO
3. Okay, let's try to fix it? Or something?

I do like the idea of introducing some great new idea in a book and then discrediting it later.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 25, 2021 10:38 AM (l8gTz)

170 The Lena Dunham of fighter airplanes.

https://youtu.be/mQ0ZQesixms
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2021 10:36 AM (VVEnO)
++++
O/T, but this reminds me of an interesting linguistic generational marker. You can tell from one expression whether someone is (approximately) a Boomer or older, or not.

It's how an airplane that performs military fighter duties is called. Older folks tend to call them "Jet Fighters" and younger folks tend to call them "Fighter Jets."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:38 AM (Jsjd7)

171 162 Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:37 AM (8D42x)

Quite, "you die because you took the last rad your body could take" is hardly the stuff of epic fantasy, BUT probably the reality of the world to come.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:38 AM (Lzpvj)

172 OT...
FOX News web site has one of those collage pictures that includes the WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY.

Begs the question, why is it in English?

So Fauci would be able to read it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 25, 2021 10:38 AM (SchxB)

173 Trailer for Last Night in Soho, new film by Edgar Wright:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB9WUIv9KH8

I'm excited.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:39 AM (LvTSG)

174 Everything important in China is done in English. It's only the poor slobs running around eating bat vulvas for their elevenses talking that ching chong wing wong bullshit.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2021 10:39 AM (6FeV1)

175 It's how an airplane that performs military fighter duties is called. Older folks tend to call them "Jet Fighters" and younger folks tend to call them "Fighter Jets."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:38 AM (Jsjd7)

Interceptors.......dang. I'm old.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:39 AM (jvt6t)

176 So today is Saint George day.

-
St. George chasing the dragon.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2021 10:39 AM (VVEnO)

177 you know, things like this make me wonder if the breakups of the robber barrons and monopolies of the early 20th century weren't a bad idea. i mean, free markets and capitalism and all, but at the same point, i wasn't stricken with the idea that those guys were more interested in returning to the old lord and serf model, especially when compared to our current crop of "elites".

but that might just be because i don't have enough knowledge of the history and people then...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:12 AM (8D42x)

What we're seeing is merely a new form of the old conflict between the tendency for power to eventually centralize, and the resistance by established institutions. Note that the resistance isn't necessarily wrong. Distributed power creates resiliency in a society, at the cost of efficiency. Centralized power creates efficiency and ability to handle complex tasks, but at the cost of fragility and corruption.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 25, 2021 10:39 AM (jOcSX)

178 As my husband used to say "academic types motto is: you scratch my back or I'll scratch your eyes out"
Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:29 AM (ONvIw)

Yup. I saw this myself with academics involved with COVID testing and research near my neck of the woods. A favored tactic I saw with that was first cutting people out of the info loop and then cutting them out (or at least trying like hell to cut them out) of any recognition they deserved for work they did.

Posted by: Thrawn at May 25, 2021 10:40 AM (MBy9l)

179 "Freedom is not simply the right of intellectuals to circulate their merchandise. It is, above all, the right of ordinary people to find elbow room for themselves and a refuge from the rampaging presumptions of their "betters.""

"People say 'you're a very tough person.' I'm not tough. Life is tough. I'm merely trying to acquaint you with those facts."

"The whole political vision of the left. including socialism and communism, has failed by virtually every empirical test. in countries all around the world. But this has only led leftist intellectuals to evade and denigrate empirical evidence,"

"The political left's attempts to silence ideas they cannot, or will not, debate are a confession of intellectual bankruptcy."

"People who call differences 'inequities' and achievements 'privilege' leave social havoc in their wake, while feeling noble about siding with the less fortunate. It would never occur to them that they have any responsibility for the harm done to both blacks and Asian Americans."

"I am so old that I can remember when other people's achievements were considered to be an inspiration. rather than a grievance."--Dr. Sowell

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2021 10:40 AM (Ndje9)

180 So today is Saint George day.

-
St. George chasing the dragon.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2021 10:39 AM (VVEnO)

God damn heroin....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:40 AM (ifmtJ)

181 WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY.

That is like Saddam's supposed baby milk factory. Intended for external propaganda while masking the reality.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:40 AM (um4AQ)

182 FOX News web site has one of those collage pictures that includes the WUHAN INSTITUTE OF VIROLOGY.

Begs the question, why is it in English?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 25, 2021 10:34 AM (axyOa)

Since the US Government through Fauci paid to set it all up, it's only right that we got to put up the sign.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2021 10:37 AM

Saint fauci is getting worried that this will be traced back to him cutting checks to the Chicoms to ramp up production of contagious diseases that they can't do here because of US laws against exactly that sort of thing.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 25, 2021 10:40 AM (JUOKG)

183 I dreamt of being a constitutional scholar/lawyer ....
I am glad I did not go down that rabbit hole.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:37 AM (Lzpvj)

Hell - I dreamed of being the next Eric Clapton. I wish I'd have stuck with it. Did get a lot of free drinks sitting in with bands, back in the day. And a starving Community College Kid never turns down a free drink.

Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 10:40 AM (ILmBq)

184 169 That all being said, the *purpose* of psychohistory and the Foundation(s) was noble-- they predicted thousands of years of barbarism and Dark Ages, and then the goal was to blunt the effects and reduce the time before a new Renaissance.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at May 25, 2021 10:38 AM (l8gTz)

==========

Much like The Golden Path in Dune.

It's always a savior fantasy on the part of the author. Asimov thought his scientific and statistical background would save the world in a certain way, so he wrote a fantasy where that saves the universe. Frank Herbert thought his theories on politics would save the world, so he wrote a fantasy where that saves the universe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:40 AM (LvTSG)

185 Pursuit planes

Nyah

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:41 AM (um4AQ)

186 Interceptors.......dang. I'm old.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:39 AM

Pursuit planes.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 25, 2021 10:41 AM (JUOKG)

187 Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:37 AM (8D42x)

Quite, "you die because you took the last rad your body could take" is hardly the stuff of epic fantasy, BUT probably the reality of the world to come.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:38 AM (Lzpvj)

stock up on iodine?

and rad-x for the fallout players...

yeah, i always hated interesting times. i know that history won't repeat, but could pass on the rhyming this time?

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:41 AM (8D42x)

188 180 So today is Saint George day.
St. George chasing the dragon.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2021 10:39 AM (VVEnO)
God damn heroin....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:40 AM (ifmtJ)

I heard there is a new chilrens book coming out:

Fentanyl George

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:41 AM (jvt6t)

189 "I am so old that I can remember when other people's achievements were considered to be an inspiration. rather than a grievance."--Dr. Sowell
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2021 10:40 AM (Ndje9)
++++
This is the difference in how one reacts to the statement "Man, that guy has it all!"

In Sowell's case - what used to be the American case - the response to that statement is "I want it all too. How do I get there for myself?"

In the modern case, the response to that statement is "I want it taken from him and given to me."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:41 AM (Jsjd7)

190 They didn't believe they could be replaced. But they were, and quite easily. It'll happen to the "entertainment" companies like Disney, Marvel, and others much much faster.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2021 10:35 AM (trdmm)

So true. Buy this car because it looks like a GTO, Chevelle, Nova, etc., but we've added tons of weight to it AND decreased the horsepower. Gosh, we can't figure out why they aren't selling!

Posted by: Mainah at May 25, 2021 10:41 AM (Boy/L)

191 185 & 186

Horde Mind Activated!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:42 AM (jvt6t)

192 So today is Saint George day.

***

One year sober.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Medical school determined even mild COVID-19 induces lifetime of antibody protection at May 25, 2021 10:42 AM (4lxb3)

193 Curious George Discovers Meth

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:42 AM (um4AQ)

194 Mono wing planes.

Posted by: Just a side note at May 25, 2021 10:42 AM (2DOZq)

195 It's how an airplane that performs military fighter duties is called. Older folks tend to call them "Jet Fighters" and younger folks tend to call them "Fighter Jets."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:38 AM (Jsjd7)

Interceptors.......dang. I'm old.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:39 AM (jvt6t)

Well, interceptors and fighters are two different roles. I think the F-16 was the last dedicated fighter we made. Everything now is a multi-role flying computer.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:42 AM (ifmtJ)

196 I heard there is a new chilrens book coming out:

Fentanyl George

Can't wait for the follow up, Bi-Curious George.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 25, 2021 10:43 AM (SchxB)

197 Sir Hoopsalot

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2021 10:43 AM (6FeV1)

198 When's the big alien thing supposed to happen? I predict a big fat dud.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2021 10:43 AM (Y5qcH)

199 excellent essay up top from CBD. Agree muchly.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at May 25, 2021 10:43 AM (ZoOKd)

200 Another age marker, but it comes up less frequently: does the person know how to count back change? If they do, it's an odds-on bet that the person is an older Xer or beyond.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:44 AM (Jsjd7)

201 Well, interceptors and fighters are two different roles. I think the F-16 was the last dedicated fighter we made. Everything now is a multi-role flying computer.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:42 AM (ifmtJ)

True that. F-22: Air Dominance

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:44 AM (jvt6t)

202 Last year I watched the "Uncommon Knowledge" video with T. Sowell that took place shortly before or after his 90th birthday.

90 and he wasn't a stuttering clusterfuck like the 76 y.o. pudding brain currently residing at 1600.

Posted by: Fool Otto at May 25, 2021 10:44 AM (DB16e)

203
Many years ago, the Ivies or Seven Sisters wouldn't think of admitting a black student, no matter how well qualified. Those students went to HBCUs like Howard or Clark or Morehouse or Grambling, which were pretty good schools without the social cachet the Ivies had.

Now that the elite schools have siphoned off the best of the pool that would have otherwise attended HBCUs, the latter have been largely ruined without the Ivies gaining much.

I remember a story from long ago about a talented black student who matriculated at Columbia but was so patronized he transferred to Howard in disgust and was much happier.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2021 10:44 AM (mht8P)

204 When's the big alien thing supposed to happen? I predict a big fat dud.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2021 10:43 AM (Y5qcH)

10,000 pages of "we don't know what they are but the truth is out there".

Posted by: Archer at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (gmo/4)

205 Well, interceptors and fighters are two different roles. I think the F-16 was the last dedicated fighter we made. Everything now is a multi-role flying computer.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:42 AM (ifmtJ)

cancelling the F-14 was still a terrible idea.

but then what do you expect from current military procurement...

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (8D42x)

206 Elites have never been more worthless than the contemporary set.
I know, worthless isn't the right word because it contains a sense of Bertie Wooster. And Bertie is better than any of them.

Posted by: Northern lurker at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (cSyAR)

207 204 When's the big alien thing supposed to happen? I predict a big fat dud.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2021 10:43 AM (Y5qcH)

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted by: The Smoking Man at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (jvt6t)

208 182 Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 25, 2021 10:40 AM (JUOKG)

The way I put it in my briefing to the open source intel people I work with was:

"The United States of America in a move of ABSOLUTE brilliance decided after outsourcing as much industry as it possibly could in the 1990s to hire China to do gain of function research by outlawing it here.

This would be akin to Leslie Groves hiring the Soviet Union to test the gadget during the Manhattan Project.

Great Work Civil Service."

I was thanked, the brilliance of my analysis was credited, and I have been ignored with glares ever since by the hard democrats we report to.

I hate my life sometimes.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (Lzpvj)

209 F-82, F-89, F-102, F-106

Now kiddies which did I leave out?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (um4AQ)

210 Another example of how the Chi-Coms use the entertainment industry to promote their foreign policy goals.

Former wrestler and "actor" John Cena apologizes to the Chi-Coms in Mandarin after calling Taiwan a country while promoting Fast and Furious 9

https://tinyurl.com/jnrysyz5

Posted by: Thrawn at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (MBy9l)

211 And my new favorite:

"If it were possible to enforce a ban on lying, a ghastly silence would fall over the city of Washington."

Time spent with Dr. Sowell is like time spent reading Reagan--you always come away better for having done so.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (Ndje9)

212 Yep, old Moo U. Not a bad college, not as overrun by stupid the way U of I was....dodged a bullet there as I was a Hawkeyes fan.

Iowa State was a good engineering school. I had several friends who at least started out as engineering majors....all but one of them dropped out...but still hung around Ames.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:38 AM (ifmtJ)

Yep, I have fond memories of my years in Ames. It's a nice place to be. I got a good education there and met some great people. I've visited recently... it's still nice. I'm afraid, however, at the current pace of things, leftists will take over even ISU... it had its nut cases even back in the day, but the craziness is spreading faster today (sigh)

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (pcsoT)

213 Another age marker, but it comes up less frequently: does the person know how to count back change? If they do, it's an odds-on bet that the person is an older Xer or beyond.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:44 AM (Jsjd7)

"Ok, so... you hold these three quarters.... then i take fifteen pennies out of the till, then you give me back one of the quarters... does anyone have a shilling on them?"

Posted by: Warai-otoko does common core at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (6FeV1)

214 Much like The Golden Path in Dune.

It's always a savior fantasy on the part of the author. Asimov thought his scientific and statistical background would save the world in a certain way, so he wrote a fantasy where that saves the universe. Frank Herbert thought his theories on politics would save the world, so he wrote a fantasy where that saves the universe.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:40 AM (LvTSG)

The path that Paul rejects and Leto embraces doesn't so much save the world as spread genetic diversity the old fashioned way: by war and rapine.

Dune (the first and greatest) was just 16th century Italian politics put into a sci-fi setting. Everything after that is a muddle because Herbert was sort of a muddle, intellectually.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (ifmtJ)

215 200 Another age marker, but it comes up less frequently: does the person know how to count back change? If they do, it's an odds-on bet that the person is an older Xer or beyond.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:44 AM (Jsjd7)

When I do it people are astonished like I just pulled off magic trick.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (Y5qcH)

216 F-82, F-89, F-102, F-106

Now kiddies which did I leave out?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (um4AQ)

F-111?

Posted by: Mainah at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (Boy/L)

217 Buy this car because it looks like a GTO, Chevelle, Nova, etc., but we've added tons of weight to it AND decreased the horsepower.

***

Fun fact: All because of federal regulations. Those airbags, modules, ABS, cameras, etc. etc. aren't free. All advances in engine technology comes entirely to offset the federal regulations adding literal tons to every car line.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Medical school determined even mild COVID-19 induces lifetime of antibody protection at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (4lxb3)

218 When's the big alien thing supposed to happen? I predict a big fat dud.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2021 10:43 AM (Y5qcH)

10,000 pages of "we don't know what they are but the truth is out there".
Posted by: Archer at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (gmo/4)

week from now isn't it?

and i'll second what Archer guessed, a fuck ton of pages to say "we don't know, and what we do know we can't tell you because classified..."

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (8D42x)

219 It will always bug me that Thomas Sowell wasn't our first African-American President.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (yQpMk)

220 As his reality and perception of the world expanded, he changed to accommodate the new data, rather than rejecting it as so many supposed scholars do today.

I think that is the story of many of us. As we grew and learned about life, our perceptions of it changed and our understanding grew. Wisdom, imagine that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2021 10:47 AM (KZzsI)

221
Iowa State was a good engineering school

__________

The Cyclowns.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2021 10:47 AM (mht8P)

222 Now kiddies which did I leave out?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (um4AQ)

F-84, F-100, F-104, F-105

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:47 AM (jvt6t)

223 Early Buckley was norm-shattering and provocative, but as he grew older and more respectable, his rodomontade vocabulary carried more heft than his ideas.

Sowell is worth reading and worth reflecting on at any point in his career.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Rodomontade vocabulary was a very cromulent way to describe the verbose Buckley.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative ....Living on the prison planet at May 25, 2021 10:47 AM (vcOmj)

224 187 Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:41 AM (8D42x)

Radaway, rad-x, and to a certain degree potassium iodide are all there because creators get depressed when faced with reality.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:47 AM (Lzpvj)

225 Another age marker, but it comes up less frequently: does the person know how to count back change?

Used to be you had to learn to do that in order to have any job that involved a cash register.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (KZzsI)

226 216 F-82, F-89, F-102, F-106

Now kiddies which did I leave out?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (um4AQ)

F-101

Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (AMIL/)

227 When my youngest daughter was applying for the Naval Academy, she had to interview with the staffers for Wyoming Senator Enzo, who was an economist. One of the questions was "what are you reading right now, for yourself?" She rightly answered "Basic Economics by Dr Thomas Sowell". Needless to say, she got the nomination.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (K7//1)

228
* waves to Anna Puma *

Posted by: F2A Brewster Buffalo at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (DMUuz)

229 214 Dune (the first and greatest) was just 16th century Italian politics put into a sci-fi setting. Everything after that is a muddle because Herbert was sort of a muddle, intellectually.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (ifmtJ)

=========

"What do you mean? What's so muddled about all politicians are corrupt, but if you put me in charge everything will end up awesome?"
-Frank Herbert

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (LvTSG)

230 F-82, F-89, F-102, F-106

Now kiddies which did I leave out?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (um4AQ)

What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: F105 Thud at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (yQpMk)

231 F-80 as well....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (jvt6t)

232 Enzi, not Enzo. Freaking autocucumber...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (K7//1)

233 *sighs*

All were used for air defense.

Now which ones did I leave out?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (um4AQ)

234 Minneapolis is down 200 police officers and crime is up 113%. There are George Floyd rallies being held there today and they will soon be voting on whether or not to defund the police for their city.
Portland Oregon has a spike in violent homicides by 800%.
Just now 10 gunshots were fired near George Floyd square and police haven't shown up. People are saying they are use to it.
Keep voting Democrat!

Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2021 10:49 AM (NpAcC)

235 F-82, F-89, F-102, F-106

Now kiddies which did I leave out?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (um4AQ)

F-111?
Posted by: Mainah at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (Boy/L)

that's a F/B isn't it?

wouldn't it be the F-4?

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:49 AM (8D42x)

236 Gref is the only one who partially got it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:49 AM (um4AQ)

237 Well, interceptors and fighters are two different
roles. I think the F-16 was the last dedicated fighter we made.
Everything now is a multi-role flying computer.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:42 AM (ifmtJ)

True that. F-22: Air Dominance

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:44 AM (jvt6t)

Yep, the F-35 is a jack of all trades and a master of none. A really bad idea when we next get into a peer or near peer conflict. Especially since we can't conceive, design, test, produce in large numbers and enter into service new fighter aircraft in 6-months like we did during WW2.

Posted by: Archer at May 25, 2021 10:49 AM (gmo/4)

238 *cough*

Posted by: F86 Sabre at May 25, 2021 10:49 AM (yQpMk)

239 F-82, F-89, F-102, F-106

Now kiddies which did I leave out?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (um4AQ)

F-86 Super Sabre? Or F-104?
I'm not 100% sure on the theme.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:50 AM (ifmtJ)

240 234 Just now 10 gunshots were fired near George Floyd square and police haven't shown up. People are saying they are use to it.
Keep voting Democrat!

Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2021 10:49 AM (NpAcC)

==========

"You know...I haven't voted for a Democrat in a decade...have you?"

"No, actually..."

"Weird, that..."
-Conversation between two Minneapolis residents

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 25, 2021 10:50 AM (LvTSG)

241 She rightly answered "Basic Economics by Dr Thomas Sowell". Needless to say, she got the nomination.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (K7//1)

It really should be taught in every high school econ class, shouldn't it? But we all know why it is not. It's not useful for injection CRT into it.

Posted by: Mainah at May 25, 2021 10:50 AM (Boy/L)

242 "One has to belong to the intelligentsia to believe things like that; no ordinary man could be such a fool."
-George Orwell, Notes On Nationalism (1945)

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 25, 2021 10:50 AM (H3MF8)

243 All were used for air defense.

Now which ones did I leave out?
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (um4AQ)

Air defense??? Duh -- that's what masks are for!

Posted by: Doof at May 25, 2021 10:50 AM (mZUr4)

244 I think that is the story of many of us. As we grew and learned about
life, our perceptions of it changed and our understanding grew. Wisdom,
imagine that.

Maybe many - but certainly not most. Most just pile more and more complicated rationalizations to justify their first assumptions.

Most old people ain't wise. They just walk slower.

Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 10:50 AM (ILmBq)

245 Dune (the first and greatest) was just 16th century Italian politics put into a sci-fi setting.

That, plus a heaping helping of eugenics and Arab worship

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2021 10:50 AM (KZzsI)

246 234 Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2021 10:49 AM (NpAcC)

It turns out Robocop was a documentary, and that Detroit voted to be a clusterfuck probably....

seriously even in THAT satire nobody could have predicted this shit.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:51 AM (Lzpvj)

247 Air defense??? Duh -- that's what masks are for!
Posted by: Doof at May 25, 2021 10:50 AM (mZUr4)

*calls in airstrike*

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:51 AM (jvt6t)

248 I don't really see Dune that way. The Atreides seem like good guys only because Emperor is perfidious and the Harkonnens are vile. Paul's triumph ends in tears.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 25, 2021 10:51 AM (H5knJ)

249 Assessment: cute, green-eyed, busty, freckled redhead.
Conclusion: I'd "intercept" her given the chance:
https://is.gd/O1Tzdh

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 25, 2021 10:51 AM (Jsjd7)

250 "The United States of America in a move of ABSOLUTE brilliance decided after outsourcing as much industry as it possibly could in the 1990s to hire China to do gain of function research by outlawing it here.This would be akin to Leslie Groves hiring the Soviet Union to test the gadget during the Manhattan Project."

In fairness we also hired Chinese spies to work at Ft. Detrick.

link in nic

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2021 10:51 AM (Ndje9)

251 229 214 Dune (the first and greatest) was just 16th century Italian politics put into a sci-fi setting. Everything after that is a muddle because Herbert was sort of a muddle, intellectually.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (ifmtJ)

well that plus the war in Algeria between France and the desert tribesmen,

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2021 10:51 AM (trdmm)

252 Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:41 AM (8D42x)

Radaway, rad-x, and to a certain degree potassium iodide are all there because creators get depressed when faced with reality.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:47 AM (Lzpvj)

yeah, i shouldn't be quite so tongue in cheek about it.

i've gotten a bit fatalist though, so it's drinking, hockey and dark jokes that help me cope right now.

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:51 AM (8D42x)

253 Keep voting Democrat!

Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2021 10:49 AM (NpAcC)

They will, even once they realize that the polices they prefer are making them poorer and unsafe. Then they'll continue to vote that way once they leave, thus repeating the cycle.

Wall off these areas and leave them to their fates.

Posted by: Thrawn at May 25, 2021 10:52 AM (MBy9l)

254
Most old people ain't wise. They just walk slower.
Posted by: Silver Bullet

________

At my age I'm not going to get much smarter. I'll be satisfied with being less stupid.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2021 10:52 AM (mht8P)

255 The robber baron era had the pressure from society and religion to do good works. Today's elite is applauded for their excesses. I'm always shocked by how little the Dem politicians give to charity.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 25, 2021 10:52 AM (5HBd1)

256 F-82, F-89, F-102, F-106

Now kiddies which did I leave out?
Posted by: Anna Puma

F-111

F-4

Posted by: JT at May 25, 2021 10:52 AM (arJlL)

257 Anna, are you listing the transition from Pursuit to Fighter designation?

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:52 AM (jvt6t)

258 Maybe many - but certainly not most. Most just pile more and more complicated rationalizations to justify their first assumptions.

Most old people ain't wise. They just walk slower.
Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 10:50 AM (ILmBq)

Most people don't adopt beliefs through rational evaluation. Instead, they adopt the beliefs of the tribe they are part of, or wish to join. Religion, politics, even pop culture, are all chosen to ensure that we are not ostracized from the group.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 25, 2021 10:52 AM (jOcSX)

259 250 Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 25, 2021 10:51 AM (Ndje9)

The Chinese know more about US intentions than the American people, because they hired and control the intenders.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:52 AM (Lzpvj)

260

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at May 25, 2021 10:53 AM (K2SnJ)

261 Air defense??? Duh -- that's what masks are for!
Posted by: Doof at May 25, 2021 10:50 AM (mZUr4)

*calls in airstrike*
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:51 AM (jvt6t)

so, you're bringing up the A-10?

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:53 AM (8D42x)

262 F-35. Jack of all trades, failure at all.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (JiM/8)

263 F-82, F-89, F-102, F-106

Now kiddies which did I leave out?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM

F-86, F-104.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (JUOKG)

264 cancelling the F-14 was still a terrible idea.

but then what do you expect from current military procurement...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (8D42x)

Agreed. Though the F-18 is tits.

Frankly I'm shocked the A-10 and the B-52 are still flying. The Air Force brass is often allergic to common sense.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (ifmtJ)

265 Most old people ain't wise. They just walk slower.
Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 10:50 AM (ILmBq)

However, ,they have practical knowledge of the Before Times you would be wise to learn. I rate your statement as: Incorrect.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (jvt6t)

266 Still think they should make an AC-5.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (JiM/8)

267 252 Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:51 AM (8D42x)

Nah be flippant, I am.

I kind of went legend in my class for laughing about nukes.

At the end of the day our job is survival.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (Lzpvj)

268 I regret going to college at all in hindsight, I turned it into a 36,000 dollar hobby but it LITERALLY did not teach me ANYTHING I had not already started down the road to in honors classes in high school.

1990s campus idiocy was largely harmless poon and booze hounding, but even then you could see glimpses of the red army brigades they are minting.

I should have gone to trade school and worked in South America.
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:08 AM (Lzpvj)

This is interesting. It made me think about if I've even gleaned a thing from college. Very little, certainly not worth the price tag. I did get over presentation fear, because of a single individual professor that would not allow me to keep it. No way to know if I wouldn't have with a similarly minded boss, or through other experience. Objectively, that's all I can think of. Everything else I use daily I learned on the job through direct training or experience.

Posted by: Inogame at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (53oGX)

269 F-82, F-84, F-89, F-94, F-101, F-102, F-104, F-106, F-4, and F-16 were at one time or another tasked with the defense of US air space from Soviet bombers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (um4AQ)

270 so, you're bringing up the A-10?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:53 AM (8D42x)

BRRRRRPPPPPPPPP.....

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:55 AM (jvt6t)

271 "Basic Economics by Dr Thomas Sowell"

Good upraising.

*side eyes Sowell collection on shelf*

Posted by: Infidel at May 25, 2021 10:55 AM (E0OEG)

272 cancelling the F-14 was still a terrible idea.

but then what do you expect from current military procurement...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (8D42x)

Agreed. Though the F-18 is tits.

Frankly I'm shocked the A-10 and the B-52 are still flying. The Air Force brass is often allergic to common sense.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (ifmtJ)

have they finally up the capacity of the F-18 to carry the payload the F-14 did? or does the airframe still not support the range, speed, and armament of the Tomcat?

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:55 AM (8D42x)

273 255: they give by forcing higher taxes on the middle and working. Then " charities " any for federal grants.

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:55 AM (ONvIw)

274 The Cyclowns.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 25, 2021 10:47 AM (mht8P)

Now I'm offended....

Posted by: LinusVanPelt at May 25, 2021 10:55 AM (pcsoT)

275 Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (um4AQ)

Ahhhhh....got it now. Thanks!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:55 AM (jvt6t)

276 268 Posted by: Inogame at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (53oGX)

Toastmasters and a library card...

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM (Lzpvj)

277 They will, even once they realize that the polices they prefer are making them poorer and unsafe. Then they'll continue to vote that way once they leave, thus repeating the cycle.

--

Don't forget that many will move away, having decided it's too dangerous, too expensive, etc., etc., to live there anymore.

Then they'll move to my state, my city, and vote for the exact same s*** that got them to flee their former homes.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM (O+I8R)

278 Frankly I'm shocked the A-10 and the B-52 are still flying. The Air Force brass is often allergic to common sense.

Air Force brass has been trying to get rid of the A-10 since before Desert Storm. Not sexy enough, and no graft to be made on an old, simple machine.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM (K7//1)

279 Thanks, forgot about the F-86D/L Sabre Dog.

Lets replace the machine guns with a pod of unguided rockets.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM (um4AQ)

280 Dune's point was that change is necessary for survival. Humanity in the Imperium had become stale, rigid, and therefore was fragile and at risk of destruction. Paul saw that, and saw that the only way to avoid it was to become a tyrant so horrible that there would be enough pressure built up to eventually drive humanity away from the comfort of the Imperium.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM (jOcSX)

281 They are getting rid of the KC-10, but keeping the 135, and still don't have the new tanker operational.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM (JiM/8)

282 I regret going to college at all in hindsight, I turned it into a 36,000 dollar hobby but it LITERALLY did not teach me ANYTHING I had not already started down the road to in honors classes in high school.

Most of what I learned in college had nothing to do with the classrooms. I became a better writer because of an excellent literature class (which I failed, but the prof did her job). But otherwise, it was about learning to interact, function independently of my family, become more disciplined and focused, and learn about economics.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2021 10:57 AM (KZzsI)

283 255 the man I referenced above could be a modern robber baron. His charity consists of donating to "the arts " but only when he can put his name on it. And to pols who'll kiss his ass .

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 10:57 AM (ONvIw)

284 The Stupor Hornet still falls short in all aspects to a Tomcat.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:57 AM (um4AQ)

285 Thanks, forgot about the F-86D/L Sabre Dog.

Lets replace the machine guns with a pod of unguided rockets.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM (um4AQ)

was that the one that did a reasonable impersonation of a lawn dart?

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:57 AM (8D42x)

286 Dune (the first and greatest) was just 16th century Italian politics put into a sci-fi setting. Everything after that is a muddle because Herbert was sort of a muddle, intellectually.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:46 AM (ifmtJ)

well that plus the war in Algeria between France and the desert tribesmen,
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 25, 2021 10:51 AM (trdmm)

I think he was more inspired by T. E. Lawrence and the Saudi arabs. The 'white savior' thing.

I...THINK the French Algiers war was still going on when he was writing Dune...or maybe it hadn't gotten hot yet. I'd have to check time frames.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 10:57 AM (ifmtJ)

287 281 They are getting rid of the KC-10, but keeping the 135, and still don't have the new tanker operational.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM (JiM/

That's fine. All future air craft will be electric and not use yucky fuels.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2021 10:57 AM (Y5qcH)

288 281 They are getting rid of the KC-10, but keeping the 135, and still don't have the new tanker operational.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM (JiM/

Lots more 707's/KC135's in the boneyards to cannibalize.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:57 AM (jvt6t)

289 Not sexy enough, and no graft to be made on an old, simple machine.

Well, that, and they hate it being merely support for ground troops, instead of in the skies flying around dogfighting like its WWI or something

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 25, 2021 10:58 AM (KZzsI)

290 210 Another example of how the Chi-Coms use the entertainment industry to promote their foreign policy goals.

Former wrestler and "actor" John Cena apologizes to the Chi-Coms in Mandarin after calling Taiwan a country while promoting Fast and Furious 9

https://tinyurl.com/jnrysyz5

Posted by: Thrawn

His Struggle is finished. He has won the victory over himself. He loves Big Mao.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 25, 2021 10:58 AM (Kx65K)

291 What's the story with some aliens announcement? I must've missed that one.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 25, 2021 10:58 AM (O+I8R)

292 was that the one that did a reasonable impersonation of a lawn dart?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:57 AM (8D42x)

You're thinking F-104...maybe

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:58 AM (jvt6t)

293 They are getting rid of the KC-10, but keeping the 135, and still don't have the new tanker operational.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM (JiM/

That's fine. All future air craft will be electric and not use yucky fuels.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 25, 2021 10:57 AM (Y5qcH)

we're going to need a shit more extension cords....

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:59 AM (8D42x)

294 290 Posted by: Puddleglum at May 25, 2021 10:58 AM (Kx65K)

John Cena "the ultimate American" when he play fights on TV

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 10:59 AM (Lzpvj)

295 Back in the day, we used to call them "airplanes that have some fight in them".

Posted by: johnd01 at May 25, 2021 10:59 AM (ukNFU)

296 Good upraising.

*side eyes Sowell collection on shelf*

Thanks, though I can't really take all of the credit for that one. My Doctor buddy got it for her. He had a talent for sneaking a subversive book in to the hands of impressionable young skulls full of mush. Once his own daughter had a book report to do in middle school, and he got her to do "animal farm".

Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 25, 2021 10:59 AM (K7//1)

297 I wish the USAF (LeMay)) had gone ahead with the F-108 Rapier, a mach 3, 70,000 foot plus ceiling interceptor.

Posted by: Archer at May 25, 2021 11:00 AM (gmo/4)

298 There was a very limited number of Shamus ordered as KC-10s while there are hundreds of KC-135Rs.

Yeah the Boeing KC-46 has turned into a mess. Especially the remote camera boom operator set-up which they have not fixed.

But the Air Force and Congress both screwed up the procurement of the KC-X that resulted in a delay of years before one was selected.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 11:00 AM (um4AQ)

299 I'm all about the P-3.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at May 25, 2021 11:00 AM (2BgZB)

300 we're going to need a shit more extension cords....
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:59 AM (8D42x)

Two prong, of course.

Last thing you wanna do is ground your air force!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2021 11:00 AM (6FeV1)

301 White House correspondent for Huff Post says Jan 6 was 1000 times worse than terrorists attempting to fly flight 93 into the capitol.

https://bit.ly/2SvlTMM

Clown. World.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 25, 2021 11:00 AM (i0wNm)

302 What's the story with some aliens announcement? I must've missed that one.

They're real. They're here. They're applying for government benefits.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 25, 2021 11:00 AM (SchxB)

303 297 I wish the USAF (LeMay)) had gone ahead with the F-108 Rapier, a mach 3, 70,000 foot plus ceiling interceptor.
Posted by: Archer at May 25, 2021 11:00 AM (gmo/4)

We did have the Valkyrie though......

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 11:00 AM (jvt6t)

304 was that the one that did a reasonable impersonation of a lawn dart?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:57 AM (8D42x)

You're thinking F-104...maybe
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:58 AM (jvt6t)

that might be it. Air force planse from that era were never as interesting to me, for some reason.

once they got out of WWII and moved to jets, it didn't get interesting again to youthful me until the 70s-80s jets.

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 11:01 AM (8D42x)

305 Most of what I learned in college had nothing to do with the classrooms. I became a better writer because of an excellent literature class (which I failed, but the prof did her job).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Exactly (mid 70's for me). My English Lit professor awarded me an 'F+' on my first assignment and wrote in the margin: You're lazy but show promise. Get on the stick Mr. TP.

I did.

Posted by: Tonypete at May 25, 2021 11:01 AM (Rvt88)

306 297 Posted by: Archer at May 25, 2021 11:00 AM (gmo/4)

The Mini-Valkyrie....

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 11:01 AM (Lzpvj)

307 Most old people ain't wise. They just walk slower.
Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021

***
I think Heinlein had Lazarus Long opine that "It's amazing how much 'mature wisdom' resembles being too tired."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2021 11:01 AM (/XOcP)

308 They got rid of the C-5 A models just because.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 11:01 AM (JiM/8)

309 Why 1/6 was worse than 9/11.

https://bit.ly/3fkj7CY

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 25, 2021 11:01 AM (VVEnO)

310 However, ,they have practical knowledge of the Before Times you would be wise to learn. I rate your statement as: Incorrect.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (jvt6t)

Rate it however. You have to sort through the bullshit. Don't plant before Derby Day here, is True. Don't wear a hat inside is False. Both things I've heard, repeatedly, from the old timers here. And I learned plenty from each, about the nature of people.

Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (ILmBq)

311 The so-called search for root causes of poor people from Guatemala, Honduras, everywhere to illegally get in the the US is BS.

The root cause is all of the free health care and education and opportunity to make money in the US.

I mean, why would a pretty girl leave Rusty Horseshoe, Montana, and go to Hollywood to be an actress or to NYC to become a fashion model, when she could stay home and get a good a job as a cashier at the grocery store?

Why would a young man from the same small town move to Frozen Ice, North Dakota, or Hotter than Hell, Texas, for an oilfield roughneck job when he could stay home and keep his job fixing flats at the Texaco station?

Real puzzles, that's for sure.

Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (AMIL/)

312 F-104 was the lawn dart.

Though early all electric F-16s had an interesting glitch, if the primary generator packed it in there was noticeable pause before the backup kicked in.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (um4AQ)

313 -we're going to need a shit more extension cords....
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:59 AM (8D42x)

Two prong, of course.

Last thing you wanna do is ground your air force!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 25, 2021 11:00 AM (6FeV1)

*golf clap*

Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (8D42x)

314 309: pols were scared.

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (ONvIw)

315 White House correspondent for Huff Post says Jan 6 was 1000 times worse than terrorists attempting to fly flight 93 into the capitol.

***

You know. That event where the capital police - who answer to Nancy Pelosi - let marchers into the buildings, a few politicians were mildly inconvenienced, and there were zero gun charges.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Medical school determined even mild COVID-19 induces lifetime of antibody protection at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (4lxb3)

316 John Cena "the ultimate American" when he play fights on TV
Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021

***
Isn't he the guy having the meaningful relationship with a purple cow?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (/XOcP)

317 Ace is up.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (dfRN6)

318 The Soviets designed the MiG 25 because they thought the SR-71 was a Mach 3 nuclear bomber.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (JiM/8)

319 Frankly I'm shocked the A-10 and the B-52 are still flying. The Air Force brass is often allergic to common sense.

Air Force brass has been trying to get rid of the A-10 since before Desert Storm. Not sexy enough, and no graft to be made on an old, simple machine.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM (K7//1)

The Army was going to buy the A-10s and fly them if the Air Force finally decommissioned them. That asserted the old tribalism and kept the ugly, lovely bastard flying.

No kidding, it was the A-10 I wanted to fly when I was a ROTC cadet, back in Det. 250....

Days long gone.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (ifmtJ)

320 we're going to need a shit more extension cords....
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 25, 2021 10:59 AM (8D42x)

Two prong, of course.

Last thing you wanna do is ground your air force!
Posted by: Warai-otoko

Shocking!

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2021 11:03 AM (8Unxl)

321 78 Thomas Sowell is an amazing man. I really wish more blacks or for that matter Democrats would read his works. Doing so would be a huge wake up call for them.
Posted by: redridinghood at May 25, 2021 10:19 AM (NpAcC)

I'm sending Lebron one... maybe he will get to page 2?

Posted by: Inogame at May 25, 2021 11:03 AM (53oGX)

322 The Soviets designed the MiG 25 because they thought the SR-71 was a Mach 3 nuclear bomber.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy DHS informant at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (JiM/

Well, to be fair...the SR-71 almost was the B-71

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, get ready now at May 25, 2021 11:03 AM (ifmtJ)

323 311 I'm sure it's just " yearning to Breathe free"/s

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 11:03 AM (ONvIw)

324 Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 11:02 AM (ILmBq)

Never wear white after Labor Day. You'll pick it up quickly.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 11:04 AM (jvt6t)

325 Air Force brass has been trying to get rid of the A-10 since before Desert Storm. Not sexy enough, and no graft to be made on an old, simple machine.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at May 25, 2021 10:56 AM

You are too young to be so cynical.

Posted by: USAF Fighter Mafia at May 25, 2021 11:04 AM (DMUuz)

326 Most old people ain't wise. They just walk slower.
Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021

I think Heinlein had Lazarus Long opine that "It's amazing how much 'mature wisdom' resembles being too tired."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Most old people don't have the money or the desire to make the same mistake for the 539th time.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2021 11:05 AM (8Unxl)

327 269 F-82, F-84, F-89, F-94, F-101, F-102, F-104, F-106, F-4, and F-16 were at one time or another tasked with the defense of US air space from Soviet bombers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 25, 2021 10:54 AM (um4AQ)

You left out the the F4D (F-6).

Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2021 11:05 AM (AMIL/)

328 Antifa twat rushes group of men, shoving and swinging a clenched fist, gets knocked out. The man who knocked her out just got 20 months in prison.

https://bit.ly/2T77G8P

Antifa is a US sanctioned terrorist group.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 25, 2021 11:07 AM (i0wNm)

329 Nood

Posted by: rickb223 at May 25, 2021 11:07 AM (8Unxl)

330 328 Posted by: bonhomme at May 25, 2021 11:07 AM (i0wNm)

Yup they are defacto the democrat SA.

Posted by: sven at May 25, 2021 11:09 AM (Lzpvj)

331 Never wear white after Labor Day. You'll pick it up quickly.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 25, 2021 11:04 AM (jvt6t)

Oh shit - I laughed out loud. Well damn played.

Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 25, 2021 11:09 AM (ILmBq)

332 F-101

Posted by: Gref at May 25, 2021 10:48 AM (AMIL/)

F-104 Starfighter

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 25, 2021 11:11 AM (k/TB6)

333 "Distributed power creates resiliency in a society, at the cost of efficiency. Centralized power creates efficiency and ability to handle complex tasks, but at the cost of fragility and corruption."

imo that is the important distinction between "We are a capitalist nation" and "We are a nation founded on liberty".

When Liberty is a priority, we rein in monopolies and polluters and various "dangers" to society. We have obviously failed at that as Wall Street took control, so they could profit off slavery in China, along with ignoring all pollution law and even genocide.

Along the way WallStreet (or Goldman Sachs types at least) bought up DC ... congress and POTUS. But the CIA and shadow government types have been seditious for so long, hard to say what the real origins of the DC Cartels really is. (March through the institutions I presume was mostly Soviet, but they had inside help)

Posted by: illiniwek at May 25, 2021 11:11 AM (Cus5s)

334 Antifa is a US sanctioned terrorist group.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 25, 2021 11:07 AM (i0wNm

Um yeah, why else did Barr help cover up who ran it and where their funding came from?

Posted by: CN at May 25, 2021 11:12 AM (ONvIw)

335 Thomas Sowell has been blasted by the left as Uncle Tom, but they coordinate efforts to make their heroes/martyrs black druggies with a history of crime/violence.

Trayvon, 10 year old child with candy (violent druggie that got in fights)

Brown of Ferguson , making something of himself, hands up don't shoot (had just robbed a store, Holder suppressed that video -- druggie, walking in middle of street, reached in cop car grabbed cops gun, then turned and charged cop -- "heroic")

"I can't breathe" guy was less violent but still resisted arrest and had his own health issues that led to his death

Freddie the dealer the head banged himself a little too hard. 4 cops persecuted.

Now Saint George Day ... (I probably missed several other fake victims)

Posted by: illiniwek at May 25, 2021 11:23 AM (Cus5s)

336 RE: The Eternals business. I think Marvel knows perfectly well that its not going to do as well as they pretend... but are using it as a loss leader to introduce characters that they'll be moving into the Avengers to fill those holes until recasting inevitably occurs for the big names leaving. (The Black Knight and Sersi, who'd do a passable job filling in for Iron Man and Captain Marvel, if Larson gets too irritating over losing top billing in her own movie.) It'll also let them coast off of Thanos' saga for a while longer, until they can get Dr. Doom or Kang set up as a big bad for the next stage.

Posted by: AmericanHawkman at May 25, 2021 11:37 AM (VfMhS)

337 96 Nic Cage, great idea:

Trailer: BLM kidnaps Dr. Sowell from a national conservative event to silence him about slavery, reparations, and communism.

Thomas Sowell Book Club members and event attendees Nic Cage, James Caan, Clint Eastwood, and Mel Gibson swing into action...but will they rescue him in time?

Directed by Clint Eastwood.

Script by John Milius.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 25, 2021 10:22 AM (mUj40)

newsletter?

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at May 25, 2021 12:22 PM (KXkkH)

338 A truly great man!

Posted by: JP Jens at May 25, 2021 12:25 PM (JPVCx)

339 210 Another example of how the Chi-Coms use the entertainment industry to promote their foreign policy goals.

Former wrestler and "actor" John Cena apologizes to the Chi-Coms in Mandarin after calling Taiwan a country while promoting Fast and Furious 9

https://tinyurl.com/jnrysyz5

Posted by: Thrawn at May 25, 2021 10:45 AM (MBy9l)

Double feature with his 'The Marine' movies. Almost jealous of the ChiComs propaganda effectiveness.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at May 25, 2021 12:34 PM (KXkkH)

340 Thank God I thought we might go three days without a worshipful magic negro piece. But cuckservatards never disappoint. Also assuming affirmative action is rayyyycciiistttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. So please tell us all how your best friend is black and you're really color blind and negroes need to escape the democrat plantation and dems r real racists and all men are created equal and 3/5 is exactly the same as 1. Dance puppet dance. LOL. Sad.

Posted by: TruthUr at May 26, 2021 10:02 AM (XmppF)

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