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Shocking: Fauci Admits That At Least 40%, and Maybe As High as 50%, of His Own Agency's Employees are Refusing to Get the Vaccine
A lot of government pressure -- and some rumors of actual legal coercion -- to get you to take the vaccine, while government employees, who could be ordered to get vaccinated as a condition of their employment, refuse and are permitted to refuse.
Fauci firs says "a little bit over half" of his agency is vaccinated, then says "probably sixty percent." Sixty percent is not "a little bit" over half. I take the first as more likely to be truthful, and I take his edging that up to sixty percent as a dishonest attempt to cover up for his first more-truthful estimate, after he realized the implications of it. Rachel Walensky of the CDC refused to even answer! So you know the CDC is just as unvaccinated, or even more so!Senator Burr asked Fauci, Peter Marks from the FDA, and @CDCDirector what percentage of their own employees are vaccinated.
— Phil Kerpen (@kerpen) May 14, 2021
Fauci probably a bit more than half, around 60%.
Marks said about the same.
Walensky dodged the question. pic.twitter.com/zoeZXZeCWM
So 40-50% of NIH and FDA employees are “anti-vaxxers“?
— Solvang (@Solvang84) May 14, 2021
Our local hospital (one of LA’s biggest) had 60% employee vax acceptance initially. Hospital brass mounted a PR campaign with a goal of getting to 75%. Not sure if they ever did.
I think vax passports are a non-starter.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 12:21 PM (ZIoLS)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 14, 2021 12:21 PM (wCgji)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2021 12:21 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Azjaeger at May 14, 2021 12:22 PM (C5g+n)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 12:22 PM (4fSQf)
The nojabforme.info website pretty much cured me of any desire whatsoever to get the "vaccine." I'll roll the dice and take my chances. Fortunately, my employer has not mandated it, though they do encourage it.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 12:22 PM (ZIoLS)
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 12:22 PM (ZIoLS)
There's no pleasure in making your employees get the shot.
The real orgasmic pleasure comes from forcing the serfs to get the shot.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 14, 2021 12:22 PM (2JVJo)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 12:23 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 12:23 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 12:23 PM (4fSQf)
Moderna Chief Medical Officer Confirms mRNA Injection For COVID-19 Can Change Your Genetic Code
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Pork Soda at May 14, 2021 12:23 PM (N+Cig)
Posted by: Greyman27 at May 14, 2021 12:23 PM (RKLPC)
Posted by: CN at May 14, 2021 12:23 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (koG+n)
Lemme put a little bit over half of my AIDS in you.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (jvt6t)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (wCgji)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (HaL55)
Moderna Chief Medical Officer Confirms mRNA Injection For COVID-19 Can Change Your Genetic Code
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)
Guessing it might make you and idiot and more likely to vote liberal?
Or maybe turns you into a lizard person.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (Obdic)
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (ZIoLS)
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CDC is somebody. We're little people.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 12:22 PM (ZIoLS)
Leave me alone you bully!!!
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
Just have to be vaccinated to be eligible to win.
Posted by: Fool Otto at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (DB16e)
Pray for Rand Paul.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (k39e/)
Posted by: Azjaeger at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (C5g+n)
Posted by: BignJames at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (4fSQf)
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Most likely radically increases your chances for cancer a few years from now.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (ZIoLS)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (Fq1gB)
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 14, 2021 12:26 PM (/MaDp)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 12:22 PM (4fSQf)
THIS
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 12:26 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2021 12:26 PM (VVEnO)
Especially for a virus with a 99.99 recovery rate for everyone save the very old and infirm.
Or alternatively...
The only thing that's not a scam is the virus itself.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 14, 2021 12:26 PM (qmgN2)
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 12:22 PM (ZIoLS)
....
Friday First Fistbump
Posted by: TexasDan at May 14, 2021 12:26 PM (ohOLP)
Posted by: james at May 14, 2021 12:26 PM (PvswE)
Posted by: CN at May 14, 2021 12:26 PM (ONvIw)
Some dude walks up with a drink and says here, I got this for you.
You decline, thinking he's just a well intentioned but clueless person.
He's says, no..drink it.
You say no.
He's demands you drink it.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 12:26 PM (4fSQf)
Not the 550k listed China Flu deaths.
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2021 12:26 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (CqHIp)
I'm coming up empty.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (Jsjd7)
To be fair, they have access to a lot more information and data than you do, so they can make informed decisions.
You, on the other hand, need to get vaccinated.
Posted by: The Rev. Dr. Anthony Fauci at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (/2aWP)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 12:22 PM (ZIoLS)
Leave me alone you bully!!!
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (Zz0t1)
It's cool. I was just shocked that I managed to get FIRST! We all know you are FIRST at being FIRST!
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (ZIoLS)
Karens get vaccinated AND wear masks. More than one.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (KZzsI)
Guessing it might make you and idiot and more likely to vote liberal?
Or maybe turns you into a lizard person.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (4fSQf)
My father, who has had a brain hemorrhage causing some mental issues in the past, got the vaccine a couple months ago. My step mother told my wife that he's starting to act very strange. He woke up the other day, walked into the living room and said "What is this place?" She reminded him that it was their home for the last 13 years and she was his wife. He walked around for a while, checking out every room before he determined everything was fine and went back to normal.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (Zz0t1)
The Moderna and the Phizer.
And yeah, I know you are not supposed to get both.
Sue me.
Pretty much zero side effects from both.
No reported case of Covid.
Just two cents worth.
Posted by: Just some moron in a hotel at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (vvMhI)
Fauxchi wasn't even polite. He just said we were supposed to "do what we're told."
Ex-squeeze me? Hate to tell you this bub, but I don't do anything that has the potential to harm me. LOLGF.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (HaL55)
Vaxxed or axxed
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (pNxlR)
HCQ might be tougher. I think that was the "orange m and m" anti malarial given in the military.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (O/Ao+)
Posted by: zmdavid at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (xqRaG)
It's cool. I was just shocked that I managed to get FIRST! We all know you are FIRST at being FIRST!
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (ZIoLS)
Oh.
I thought you were physically beating me.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (Zz0t1)
Also... the new "Indian strain" is resistant to the current injections. Get ready for monthly "vaccine updates," I mean "vaccine patches."
Posted by: vyx at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (rEgFA)
Some dude walks up with a drink and says here, I got this for you.
You decline, thinking he's just a well intentioned but clueless person.
He's says, no..drink it.
You say no.
He's demands you drink it.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 12:26 PM (4fSQf)
you say no again
He says humm guess a BJ is out of the question
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (jvt6t)
What happened this morning?
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (Fq1gB)
Karens get vaccinated AND wear masks. More than one.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:27 PM (KZzsI)
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"WHY ARE YOU HOUSING WATER DROPLETS FULL OF COVID RIGHT NEXT TO YOU MOUTH AND NOSE?! ARE YOU INSANE?!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (OTzUX)
Saw a headline somewhere (looking for link) that joe & Kum-ala were celebrating being so gosh darned good and you don't have to wear masks if vaccinated....and can even shake hands or hug.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (jvt6t)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (nI1Kq)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (KZzsI)
Parties switched sides and it was the old Democrats what are now Republicans who are for it.
The now Democrats were against it...despite being the same people they were as the old Democrats.
Look, slavery was the Repubs fault and so is anything bad from the jab, OK? Lets not worry about "labels" and digging into finding old votes and statements.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 12:29 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: ... at May 14, 2021 12:29 PM (VQQAx)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Especially when every other economic, political, regulatory, and social idea they have for you has been bad.
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 12:29 PM (KDCRD)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 14, 2021 12:30 PM (2goRJ)
Most likely radically increases your chances for cancer a few years from now.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 12:25 PM (ZIoLS)
There are multiple doctors out there saying this exact thing.
In the next 3 to 5 years, watch the cancer rates.......
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)
Besides, a lot of my friends in the medical field aren't rushing to get the vaccine either.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 14, 2021 12:30 PM (VWp7G)
Posted by: Azjaeger at May 14, 2021 12:30 PM (C5g+n)
Posted by: TC at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (PQKGQ)
Posted by: Jewells45
___
Hooah *fistbump*
How are you doing?
Saw you bounce early on the ONT due to being depressed.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (+Vt0n)
There is a paper out that shows the COVID injection has crossed the blood/brain barrier and COULD create prions, which means dementia/ Alzheimers.
https://tinyurl.com/swpa8
They just don't know. There are NO long term studies on this.
FYI, prions are at the heart of Mad Cow disease. They turn your brain into a sponge.
Posted by: vyx at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (kFA7a)
Isn't there a US Surgeon General position held by somebody?
What is it you would say he does here?
Posted by: Common Tater at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (O/Ao+)
Yes. Tractor Supply is what I looked at. Tons of the stuff.
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (lIIT7)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 14, 2021 12:26 PM (qmgN2)
I stunned a boss by saying I know my mask doesn't do anything as it, to use British slang" does exactly what is says on the tin.
Apparently she never read the box that the masks come in before. But she knows they must be effective, cause it is a thing over her face.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (Ojki1)
These people are engaging in a public pressure campaign to get other people to take the vaccine while refusing to do so themselves?! There is only one reasonable conclusion to draw from this!"
You're a racist, sexist, homophobic bigot that hates science? Sorry, it's the only answer I'm programmed to give when queried about what's wrong with independent thinkers.
Posted by: NPC leftist at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (iXpLo)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (H5knJ)
I'd prefer they don't, but my opinion stopped being worth much about a year ago.
Don't care if they get the vaccine either.
I'd recommend it, but that's just a recommendation.
Do as you see fit.
Posted by: Just some moron in a hotel at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (vvMhI)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 14, 2021 12:30 PM (VWp7G)
What was the treatment? Cuz, natural antibodies are MUCH better than the vaccine.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (VpIIl)
Isn't there a US Surgeon General position held by somebody?
What is it you would say he does here?
Posted by: Common Tater
He goes and gets his fookin' shine box when faucial says to.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (pNxlR)
Sure there are. But they just started and haven't concluded yet. I'll wait.
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (lIIT7)
Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (koG+n)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (LvTSG)
Got handed a free pack of face diapers this morning when I got my shot and had nothing to do other than read the fine print on the package while waiting the 15 minutes before I could leave. Was amazed to read "Single use only. Discard after use", no I really was. Mine is completely filthy from visiting construction sites and the strap is held on with a paper clip. What can I say, I'm an engineer, but I'm pretty sure it it is not doing me the least bit of good.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (Obdic)
Unless it's a pike.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (uhPTO)
What was the treatment? Cuz, natural antibodies are MUCH better than the vaccine.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (Zz0t1)
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Non-GMO and gluten free.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (LvTSG)
Fauxchi wasn't even polite. He just said we were supposed to "do what we're told."
Ex-squeeze me? Hate to tell you this bub, but I don't do anything that has the potential to harm me. LOLGF.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
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That shit didn't work when my parents tried it, won't work with these yahoos either.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:33 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: zmdavid at May 14, 2021 12:33 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 12:24 PM (OTzUX)
Saw a headline somewhere (looking for link) that joe & Kum-ala were celebrating being so gosh darned good and you don't have to wear masks if vaccinated....and can even shake hands or hug.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (jvt6t)
Well, I can't find what I saw this morning, so I will retract until located.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 14, 2021 12:33 PM (jvt6t)
Or the 29,000 with no co-morbitities who actually died of Covid.
Posted by: Greyman27 at May 14, 2021 12:33 PM (RKLPC)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 14, 2021 12:30 PM (2goRJ)
Aw man, you just ruined the surprise at the UNC Commencement!
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 14, 2021 12:33 PM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Wicked Witch From Hansel and Gretel at May 14, 2021 12:33 PM (VVEnO)
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 14, 2021 12:33 PM (enXj9)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt
They gave me an inhaler for my lungs, but otherwise, rest and aspiring. I have natural antibodies, which some say I'm immune, but others say no.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 14, 2021 12:33 PM (VWp7G)
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:34 PM (+Vt0n)
https://tinyurl.com/swpa8
They just don't know. There are NO long term studies on this.
FYI, prions are at the heart of Mad Cow disease.
Well, that's comforting.....
They turn your brain into a sponge.
Posted by: vyx at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (kFA7a)
You say that like it's a bad thing.....
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
https://tinyurl.com/47kb975m
Posted by: Buzzion at May 14, 2021 12:34 PM (G2zl5)
Unless it's a pike.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (uhPTO)
halberds >> pikes
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2021 12:34 PM (Fq1gB)
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:34 PM (+Vt0n)
F*CK the police!!!!
Posted by: Ice Cube at May 14, 2021 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 14, 2021 12:34 PM (VWp7G)
What is it you would say he does here?
Posted by: Common Tater
That everyone should masturbate more often!
Posted by: Jocelyn Elders at May 14, 2021 12:34 PM (jOcSX)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (H5knJ)
Nah. He heard it was like 42% so he rounded up to 50ish and then realized that still sounded bad and spouted out the 60% number.
Posted by: Fool Otto at May 14, 2021 12:35 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2021 12:35 PM (5cd/T)
Posted by: zmdavid at May 14, 2021 12:28 PM (xqRaG)
Given that no matter what someone died from if they had the Rona it was a Rona death (motorcycle crash but had Rona? Rona is cause of death) it is only "fair" if every death of someone what had the jab is counted as a jab death.
And the left loves being "fair", yes?
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 12:35 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 14, 2021 12:35 PM (4a9Vv)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 14, 2021 12:35 PM (VWp7G)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 14, 2021 12:34 PM (VWp7G)
++++
We either aspire to be aspirin, or once did...
Posted by: All the other NSAIDs at May 14, 2021 12:35 PM (Jsjd7)
They gave me an inhaler for my lungs, but otherwise, rest and aspiring. I have natural antibodies, which some say I'm immune, but others say no.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 14, 2021 12:33 PM (VWp7G)
Throw you in a room full of Covid with a vaccinated person, I'm betting on you being better off.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:35 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: WisRich at May 14, 2021 12:35 PM (TrAyK)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 14, 2021 12:33 PM (VWp7G)
I would say you are immune.
Posted by: Just some moron in a hotel at May 14, 2021 12:36 PM (vvMhI)
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2021 12:36 PM (g0UUA)
Posted by: andycanuck at May 14, 2021 12:36 PM (UHVv4)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory
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Important folks get the placebo.
Everyone else...
Good luck.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:36 PM (+Vt0n)
They turn your brain into a sponge.
Posted by: vyx
I haven't noticed a difference.
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 14, 2021 12:36 PM (Lt1JN)
Posted by: Portlandon at May 14, 2021 12:36 PM (+oR7L)
Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2021 12:36 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (Obdic)
You're so lucky to have a paper clip.
All I had was a rusty wire.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 14, 2021 12:36 PM (axyOa)
You are a very sane and smart person in evaluating risk versus reward.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (pO7gM)
Went to Walter Reed for less than 48 hours.
Was back at work Monday morning.......
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:36 PM (+Vt0n)
+++++
Placebo - Every You and Every Me
https://youtu.be/OMaycNcPsHI
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (Jsjd7)
Walensky is merely "encouraging" her staffers at the CDC to get vaccinated, while proposing "vaccine passports" to mandate that the rest of us do?!
Now check the number of border crashers forced to get the vaccine.
That number is zero. 0.
Why?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
*tries to imagine what it's like having a brain like Sponge*
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: All the other NSAIDs at May 14, 2021 12:35 PM (Jsjd7)
Damn right.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (5cd/T)
You're so lucky to have a paper clip.
All I had was a rusty wire.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 14, 2021 12:36 PM (axyOa)
So, YOU'RE the back alley abortion doctor they keep talking about.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2021 12:38 PM (k39e/)
What is it you would say he does here?
Posted by: Common Tater at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (O/Ao+)
Isn't that trollish dress-wearing dude from MI the SG?
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2021 12:38 PM (Fq1gB)
I think people were just sick of it all by the time they ginned up that little pile of dogshit.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 12:38 PM (4fSQf)
*tries to imagine what it's like having a brain like Sponge*
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (Ez6QX)
I wouldn't wish that on anybody.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:38 PM (Zz0t1)
When they tested the SARS vax on ferrets, they all died when they were exposed to the virus in nature. It's called ADE-- the mRNA causes an increased immune response when the disease shows up, and that increased immune response can potentially lead to death.
So far, there have been 3200 deaths caused by the injection on the VAERS site. This is a self reporting site, and the estimate that only a small number are reported. During the swine flu epidemic, when there were 50 deaths, the vax was stopped.
Posted by: Vyx at May 14, 2021 12:38 PM (h1hWo)
You are a very sane and smart person in evaluating risk versus reward.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (pO7gM)
***
Thanks. I try.
Posted by: Just some moron in a hotel at May 14, 2021 12:38 PM (vvMhI)
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:38 PM (+Vt0n)
Went to Walter Reed for less than 48 hours.
Was back at work Monday morning.......
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)
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His bounce back is probably one of the major reasons he actually won the election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (PiwSw)
Pikes have more reach
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (KZzsI)
You haven't seen my halberd.
Posted by: banana "long halberd" Dream at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (Fq1gB)
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (g0UUA)
The notes are NO LONGER legal tender and they are giving everyone until October 30th, to deposit them or lose 100%.
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (RHGPo)
Used to be Faux News, now Fauxi News ... and yeah, why was he ever leading this "Pandemic" effort? (because he was a grifter from way back, stealing other virology research and patenting/profiting from it and getting BigGov to attack any challengers).
bitchute link
https://tinyurl.com/u47e955
Posted by: illiniwek at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (sOXXq)
Went to Walter Reed for less than 48 hours.
Was back at work Monday morning.......
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)
Still pretty skeptical that Trump really had the China virus.
Posted by: TC at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (PQKGQ)
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I drew unreasonable conclusions a long time ago. Now they look reasonable.
Kinda like being an early adopter of Trump. Its seems impossible, and yet, look at where we wind up . . .
I'm just sayin'.
Posted by: I know your sensitive to the conspiracy theory thing and yet at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (Rouui)
I'm still in the "will wait, and assess my risk of catching the disease as low, and not feeling pressured" camp.
I see my doctor on Monday. I think that's a very good question to ask him: "What fraction of the health-care pros in this facility have been vaccinated?"
Hard to be "pro-vaccine" when there are so many different vaxes, from so many different companies, that were all rushed to get something out quick.
Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (qpX6U)
Posted by: vyx at May 14, 2021 12:31 PM (kFA7a)
FIRST
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2021 12:40 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 14, 2021 12:32 PM (Obdic)
You're so lucky to have a paper clip.
All I had was a rusty wire.
Posted by: Diogenes
Rusty wire? Damned high faluting people.
All I had was tetanus to hold it in place.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 12:40 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (KZzsI)
Beep Beep
Posted by: Commander Christopher Pike at May 14, 2021 12:40 PM (PiwSw)
Unclear whether vaccines actually do the same thing in these cases as I haven't spent the time looking up studies and much of the T cell reaction to new variants of Covid by people who had it in the past will take time to actually evaluate.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 12:40 PM (pO7gM)
"Dissent is the highest form of Patriotism!"
--Hillary Clinton
Depends are the highest form of Absorption.
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 12:40 PM (Lt1JN)
While he got the vaccine, and his wife got the shot as well, and he's urging his employees at NIH to take it too, he cannot mandate anything until the FDA approves the vaccines. When Todd asked him when that might happen, Collins said he didn't know, and that the approval process could take a long time.
That told me all I need to know. Not afraid to take it, and I'll take it if my company mandates it (a man needs to eat), but I've got no intention of doing so on my own volition until the FDA approves it.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 14, 2021 12:40 PM (mdjgu)
Posted by: chango lot at May 14, 2021 12:40 PM (g741k)
Im on the same page. Ive probably already had Covid and even if I havent Im not really in a rush to get a vaccine. I dont have a great reason. I never get a flu shot either. I also very rarely take any OTC drugs. And most of my friends are kind of in the same boat. The ones who are vaccined did it because Instagram influencers convinced them theyd kill old people if they didnt get it.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 14, 2021 12:40 PM (UPoLF)
Still pretty skeptical that Trump really had the China virus.
Posted by: TC at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (PQKGQ)
Agreed. However, the left and dems were pretty adamant that he was going to die......
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
Things a somebody at the hq has never said nefore
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Posted by: Y5 at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (ETo5l)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp
Your T cell immunity may very well last years. You still have both short and long term antibodies. I know someone who has antibodies after 13 months. She is tested by her job.
Kroger has a COVID antibody test for $25. If you have antibodies you DO NOT NEED the injection. Natural immunity to this is the best case scenario.
Posted by: Vyx at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (rEgFA)
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (g0UUA)
Publius' old mama is being browbeaten by her doctor. She and her 93-year-old husband have been CCP-virus free for well over a year. They aren't going to be guinea pigs for what is still an experimental vaccine.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (Mzdiz)
I used to get flu shots every year. I'm not "anti-science" which is a
bullshit term. But these people and their hysterics are making me feel
better and better about not being a part of the beta test for their
injection.
I'm sorta the opposite. Used to get them pretty much every year when I had h/c insurance, but fell out of the habit because broke. Got a flu shot in Feb just a few weeks before the ChiCom WuFlu hit our shores. Was in bed for three days afterwards (Oh yeah. Now I remember why I never liked getting flu shots.) but since then I haven't even had the sniffles. Never wore an ID10T mask while I was out running errands unless forced to. I was careful
but not a chickenshit about it. Lots of hand sanitizer got used for a while when in pub-lick.
If I'd passed that onto B'Gal, it would've killed her because she had a compromised immune system disease. She had Shogren's and Crest Syndrome. She had been prescribed Hydroxychloroquine for a couple of years and had two negative tests in a row, so I must've done something right.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (rbI9i)
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (O+I8R)
All I had was tetanus to hold it in place.
What we would have given for just a scrap of tetanus. What luxury !!!
Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (koG+n)
https://is.gd/YyhgFZ
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2021 12:42 PM (Jsjd7)
Posted by: abbynormal at May 14, 2021 12:42 PM (Dse6M)
That everyone should masturbate more often!
Posted by: Jocelyn Elders
While listening to Eric Clapner.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2021 12:42 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 14, 2021 12:42 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2021 12:42 PM (rbI9i)
Posted by: Greyman27 at May 14, 2021 12:42 PM (RKLPC)
Posted by: Comanche Voter at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (NVDjf)
rest and aspiring. I have natural antibodies, which some say I'm
immune, but others say no.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 14, 2021 12:33 PM (VWp7G)
I would say you are immune.
Posted by: Just some moron in a hotel at May 14, 2021 12:36 PM (vvMhI)
Son is home, sick in bed with Covid. 2nd time.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (45fpk)
Yep. I call it an injection. I think the Moderna website is the one that calls it an "operating system."
Posted by: Vyx at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (rEgFA)
Lol. Yeah what a conspiracy with all those doctors at Walter Reed, WH staff, etc.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (sOXXq)
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (KfC1e)
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (g0UUA)
.......
Because they know all about the secret nanobots.
Posted by: wth at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: TC
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Early treatment makes a YUUUUGE difference.
Wife had more than a few people call early in the course who were sick but didn't want to go the hospital and she had them take the zinc, vit D, HCQ, zpak etc and were 100% better in 48 hours. No hospitalization needed. Called back claiming it was a miracle. It happened enough times that she's thinks there is something up.
Posted by: I know your sensitive to the conspiracy theory thing and yet at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (v5muY)
better and better about not being a part of the beta test for their injection.
Well that's my problem with the shot. I mean other than how its not actually a vaccine. They rushed this out without the usual testing and it could do ANYTHING in the medium term (like a year or two out) and we won't find out until people are already suffering from it. I'm not gonna take an untested faux vaccine for something I'm certain I was already exposed to and fought off, that has a .05% death rate.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (KZzsI)
Yet American citizens get stampeded into serving as guinea pigs for politicians and depopulation psychos.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (ZNqzz)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (5HBd1)
Previous attempts at SARS vaccines (not covid) resulted in all animals in the test groups dying. All of them. The vaccine worked, but exposure to other viruses caused an immune response that killed the animals.
Posted by: sunny-dee at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (Z2HD7)
The report notes Biden holds lengthy deliberation meetings and demands obsessive details from his advisors. When advisors get too technical or obscure about an issue, Biden responds with "an outburst of frustration, often laced with profanity."
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (KfC1e)
.........
Exactly. I don't trust the government.
Posted by: wth at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (v0R5T)
Lol. Yeah what a conspiracy with all those doctors at Walter Reed, WH staff, etc.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (sOXXq)
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Or, the testing for COVID has been suspect for a very long time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (rbI9i)
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Yep, and then some with my stints in the Army.
As a child and a soldier, I had no choice in the matter.
I do now.
My trust, compared to those times, is at an all-time low.
With these jackasses running shit, no thanks.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 14, 2021 12:40 PM (UPoLF)
++++
This is where I am. I am fat, but otherwise young and healthy. I am unlikely to get it. If I get it, I am unlikely to be hospitalized due to it. If I am hospitalized, I am unlikely to die from it.
The vaccine is very new and still in trials. My actual risk from the illness is likely quite low. My risk from the vaccines is unknown because they haven't been studied for very long.
Given that, my personal risk calculation for *me* is that I don't want it. Other people have different risk calculations. Those people should do what their risk calculations tell them is the best move. That may mean getting the vaccine, it may mean not getting it. That is okay. I don't know when personal decision-making became such a contentious issue, but it isn't a good development.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (Jsjd7)
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (pO7gM)
I think vaccines work, I don't think this is a vaccine.
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like all of the leftist conspiracies - it starts with distorting the language so the lie isn't even noticed...
Posted by: it depends on what the definition of "is" is at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (v5muY)
Last Friday was the jobs report
Monday was colonial
Tuesday was inflation data
Wednesday was rockets and Gaza (work with me here. Not exact day)
Thursday no masks.
Guess what's leading the news this weekend?
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (JC/0A)
Posted by: Mookie at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (u+Y3T)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (HaL55)
Speaking of hand sanitizer, when are we going to see a surge of "superbugs" from all the hand sanitizer use this past year?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (sOXXq)
Against? You can only sue the govt if the govt lets you, and the vaccine makers were give immunity from suits already. So maybe your employer if they put in writing get the jab or get gone, and then only maybe.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (Ojki1)
I got bitched at here for merely " speculating" that I had it twice... the claim was " unpossible"...
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (g0UUA)
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (yrol0)
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (SVPcU)
So, you and your wife are willing to take a chance with blood clots and/ or a stroke so you can go on vacation?
/if one test is positive and you are not sick, go get another one.
Posted by: irish democracy at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (rEgFA)
Posted by: Lady in Black
I'm not anti vax.
I AM anti this shot because this isn't a fucking vaccine.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 12:46 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
........
Then he shits himself.
Posted by: wth at May 14, 2021 12:46 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: TC at May 14, 2021 12:46 PM (PQKGQ)
Posted by: Greyman27
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Hope your vacation will be worth it.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:46 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: grammie winger at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (45fpk)
I believe you. Things happen.
Hope you son gets better very soon.
Posted by: Just some moron in a hotel at May 14, 2021 12:46 PM (vvMhI)
Went to Walter Reed for less than 48 hours.
Was back at work Monday morning.......
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM (Zz0t1)
Still pretty skeptical that Trump really had the China virus.
Posted by: TC at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (PQKGQ)
I'm still pretty skeptical that old geezers such as Slow Joe, Nanzi, Leahy, and many others got the vaccine, not a placebo.
Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2021 12:47 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 12:47 PM (pO7gM)
no rigorous testing. I've read that those who get the "vaccine" are
more likely to spread the virus from throwing off protein spikes.
Posted by: abbynormal at May 14, 2021 12:42 PM (Dse6M)
My brother is following this very closely, and has discovered the same thing. Sounds like the vaccine is worse than the 'rona.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - #SuperStraight at May 14, 2021 12:47 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Roy at May 14, 2021 12:47 PM (Ti+Tv)
Posted by: rhennigantx at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (yrol0)
It was in April. Communists are great.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2021 12:47 PM (5cd/T)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 14, 2021 12:47 PM (QeenG)
If your employer requires it, they can be sued; OSHA recently put out that ruling.
Posted by: Vyx at May 14, 2021 12:47 PM (rEgFA)
Posted by: Mookie
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*grins*
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:48 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 12:48 PM (wb3D1)
All I had was tetanus to hold it in place.
What we would have given for just a scrap of tetanus. What luxury !!!
Posted by: Silver Bullet at May 14, 2021 12:41 PM (koG+n)
Huh. You had ears to attach the mask to.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 12:48 PM (BMmaB)
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
Come On Man!!
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 14, 2021 12:48 PM (jvt6t)
Sounds like you need a genetically modified virus!
For just 19.99, you can have your own pandemic, perfectly timed to cause mass chaos and confusion in the population....
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 12:48 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Jewels45
Least I won't be the only Moron in the camp.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 12:48 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 12:48 PM (O+I8R)
Posted by: anonymous at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (tF5De)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (Jsjd7)
This. Give us the straight dope, and let us make the risk determination ourselves, without shame or subterfuge.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (mdjgu)
Side note: How the f'ck did they get my phone number.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (kpwkS)
Posted by: Portlandon at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (+oR7L)
experiment for Big Pharma... My body, my choice....
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (g0UUA)
No. We need to stop counting, period, and go back to living with flu bugs the same way we did for thousands of years before the coordinated effort to destroy Western society and President Trump.
Posted by: Mookie at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (u+Y3T)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp
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Not gonna go to no camp either.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 12:39 PM (sOXXq)
Against? You can only sue the govt if the govt lets you, and the vaccine makers were give immunity from suits already. So maybe your employer if they put in writing get the jab or get gone, and then only maybe.
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they can't force you to take it as a condition of employement because its not "approved". its only an Emergency use authorization - basically its an experimental drug situation. Now next year when the trials are completed and the tinker with the stats to show it is sort of safeish and sort of effectivish then you see the vaccine passports, and crackdowns.
Posted by: its not going to be pretty at May 14, 2021 12:50 PM (v5muY)
Well, since neither of us is young-ish, taking hormonal birth control, or have any underlying health issues. Plus the JJ is actually a vector vaccine. Like I said, holding off for now.
Posted by: Greyman27 at May 14, 2021 12:50 PM (RKLPC)
Posted by: kraken at May 14, 2021 12:45 PM (g0UUA)
Two positive tests, 7 months apart, with fever, sore throat, and this time loss of taste and smell. I'm not calling it anything other than Covid. This second time, however, I believe to be from a different strain. Close contact with a +positive person from a different part of the world.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 14, 2021 12:50 PM (45fpk)
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at May 14, 2021 12:50 PM (h1jJh)
Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (Tnijr)
wut??
Posted by: Tony Montana at May 14, 2021 12:50 PM (jvt6t)
Side note: How the f'ck did they get my phone number.
Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (kpwkS)
*looks away and whistles*
Posted by: Bob at the NSA at May 14, 2021 12:50 PM (5cd/T)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 12:50 PM (wb3D1)
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at May 14, 2021 12:51 PM (VoKVv)
Posted by: LASue at May 14, 2021 12:51 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
Not to be a dick but what is too technical or obscure about his job? Remembering the name of some minor dignitary from Nepal? Sure. But no one would expect him to remember that. Economics numbers? Not complicated. I have never understood why people say it requires great intelligence to be a president. Most of what they do is political. And the rest is not that hard to grasp. Occasionally they might have to make difficult decisions I guess but ...
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 14, 2021 12:51 PM (UPoLF)
After all, when you have grifted yourself into a fortune and power, many resent anything that equates oneself with an average person that they used to be.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 12:51 PM (pO7gM)
In addition, it is a russian roulette serum, you just don't know if your particular genetics are gonna get the bullet from this.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 14, 2021 12:51 PM (r+sAi)
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That damned bunny! Hippity hopping all over the economy...
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 12:52 PM (O+I8R)
Death will be a blessing when it comes.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:52 PM (+Vt0n)
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Diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis - 2/15/63, 3/28/63, 5/16/63, 7/23/64, 1/67
Poliomyelitis 2/15/63 Salk
Smallpox 3/18/66 & 5/68
Measles 3/18/66
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 12:52 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: Vyx at May 14, 2021 12:38 PM (h1hWo)
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And IIRC 1/3rd of the COVID vaccine deaths occurred within 48 hours.
Probably just coincidence, though.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 14, 2021 12:52 PM (wCgji)
Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2021 12:47 PM (AMIL/)
They got neither because they know it's a total farce.
Posted by: TC at May 14, 2021 12:52 PM (PQKGQ)
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
Come On Man!!
Posted by: Jak Sucio at May 14, 2021 12:48 PM (jvt6t)
Good Lord, given the simpletons that are his advisers, can you imagine the "technical details" that set President Fix-O-Dent off?
Posted by: Oschisms at May 14, 2021 12:52 PM (BD0Jm)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 12:48 PM (r1z5A)
Nope. I'll be there.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 12:52 PM (Ez6QX)
Sounds like you need a genetically modified virus!
For just 19.99, you can have your own pandemic, perfectly timed to cause mass chaos and confusion in the population....
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I know, right?!
Bonus, you get to sell the world "vaccines" FOREVER. Its like a private tax on everybody in the world 50 bucks, every year!
Posted by: Tony the salesman at May 14, 2021 12:53 PM (WFC+Z)
Yeah I've read and heard some about that too, and the same kind of autoimmune fails in people who got the shot, but it takes months to kick in.
Look, the whole "stay home if you're sick, wash your hands, avoid the vulnerable and elderly" stuff makes sense, and always has. Cleaning up public spaces like shopping carts always made sense but was almost never done.
But the rest? Is just insanity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:53 PM (KZzsI)
Agreed. If I was in my 60s or 70s and had underlying health conditions my calculation would be very different.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 14, 2021 12:53 PM (UPoLF)
WTF
The way they have been pushing this so dang hard, with the insults, the condescension, the dangling the freedom to get back to normal life IF ONLY you get the jab is suspicious AF.
But this latest in CDC and NIH vaccine hesistancy makes it even worse. No jab for me, and don't even think about making my kid get one (since the chances of him having a bad covid case is practically 0). NJNBHN
Posted by: Lizzy at May 14, 2021 12:53 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 12:47 PM (pO7gM)
My wife and I were talking about this today. I have yes, no, sure. Sure is defined as: not no.
Example of yes:
Kids having a sleepover at a friends house do I want a nice romantic evening? Yes!
Example of sure:
I need to shop for some work dresses can you come with and give me your opinion? sure
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2021 12:53 PM (Fq1gB)
*bleeds from eyeball*
Posted by: Joe Biden with a steel plate in his head at May 14, 2021 12:53 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2021 12:53 PM (k39e/)
Posted by: grammie winger at May 14, 2021 12:50 PM (45fpk)
I love Fleet Week.
Posted by: Don Lemon at May 14, 2021 12:53 PM (UuD2k)
He seems to be the poster person for the stereotype of the short person with an ego problem.
I personally would like to see him investigated due to his mishandling now and in the past.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 14, 2021 12:53 PM (dLws2)
*No money back if he wins anyway, its on you to defraud the election and win if this doesn't work.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:54 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:54 PM (+Vt0n)
somewhere around half the staff got the shot. the rest said "nope", Herself included. we both came to the same conclusion separately, then discussed it: we'll wait and see what happens, long term, to the guinea pigs. for years the drug companies have been trying to get m-RNA vaccines approved for trial, but have been denied, due to safety concerns, so they jumped at the chance to try them out w/o the usual protocols for experimental medications.
no thanks. if you feel you need to get it, that's your call, not mine.
Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it. at May 14, 2021 12:54 PM (Klyp6)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 14, 2021 12:54 PM (Obdic)
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How'd they report their own deaths?
Posted by: zmdavid at May 14, 2021 12:54 PM (xqRaG)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 12:54 PM (sOXXq)
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It will be an amazing feat, since she's not even in Congress. Is she going to go beat the old man up?
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 12:54 PM (O+I8R)
Posted by: its not going to be pretty at May 14, 2021 12:50 PM (v5muY)
Tell that to Delta. They just made it mandatory for new employees.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 12:54 PM (Ez6QX)
Fuck you and your technical details. I know how to eat g-d pudding!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 12:55 PM (wb3D1)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM
That's what she said.
Posted by: Zebulon Pike at May 14, 2021 12:55 PM (m+jkK)
Posted by: Roy at May 14, 2021 12:47 PM (Ti+Tv)
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We've got enough data after 1.5 years that they could be giving us rough estimates, but they won't.
I'm guessing somewhere around 85% of the population.
One moron said that when he caught it his doctor said his spouse in the same household had an 11% chance of catching the super-contagious virus. Because super contagious means there's a 90% chance you WON'T catch it living with a person. Or something.
They have numbers. They won't tell us for a reason, and it's not because they love us.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 14, 2021 12:55 PM (wCgji)
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
Come On Man!!
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WTF do you mean they're all out of TUNA FISH!!!
That's a BIG FCUKIN' DEAL!! Tell me how that happened. Did the tuna boat sink or something? Run out of gas? I need DETAILS man!!!
Posted by: Angry Ol Joe at May 14, 2021 12:55 PM (WFC+Z)
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 12:55 PM (/2aWP)
Posted by: grammie winger at May 14, 2021 12:55 PM (45fpk)
You have to be intelligent enough to sense bullshit from your erstwhile smarter by iq advisors. Biden has already failed that test when he was in Congress--never right but never in doubt. Far too many of the DC courtiers have their own agendas and blind spots, to add to that, sycophancy is omnipresent already in DC due to the hierarchy climbing effect for power and riches.
Many of the of the perma-class of advisors with principles either stay in DC and get corrupted or leave DC with their principles intact to do something else.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 12:55 PM (pO7gM)
The butcher's bill from the CV19 injections is much higher than the VAERS stats.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 14, 2021 12:55 PM (ZNqzz)
Posted by: Marcus T
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Yep.
Except now, I'm no longer in.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:55 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: SMH
That would be my thought too, however, sooner or later, one runs out of ammo...
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 12:56 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 12:54 PM (sOXXq)
Except in you now, as a weakened variant.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2021 12:56 PM (Fq1gB)
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 14, 2021 12:56 PM (4a9Vv)
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
But not mean tweets, right? Cause those are the worst.
Posted by: Wine mom Karen at May 14, 2021 12:56 PM (Ojki1)
Details like, "Who are you? Why am I here?"
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 12:56 PM (/2aWP)
I also had the opportunity to thank him and his staff for giving us extra time together. Something I'll always be grateful for.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Psychos Rule! No, really. They're in charge now. at May 14, 2021 12:56 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp
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Oh well.
Worse things than death.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 12:56 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 12:56 PM (wb3D1)
Inquiring minds at schoolteacher assemblies in every big city want to know.
Posted by: Monsieur Gaga at May 14, 2021 12:56 PM (4ZE6o)
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at May 14, 2021 12:56 PM (qZdIZ)
"government employees, who could be ordered to get vaccinated as a condition of their employment"
I'm not sure they can, actually.
The military is pretty big on ordering people to do things. At least in the DoD, they can't order servicemembers to get the vaccine because it's available on an experimental use authorization.
(I believe a division commander got in trouble for trying to get around this by making dining facility access contingent on vaccination.)
I was fine trying the vaccine (which wiped the floor with me after Round 2). I am at low risk if I get COVID-19 but it could really set me back if I got it. So for me, I'm fine with the experimental aspect.
Now, tell me I *have* to make my kids take it, as soon as it's approved for their age? Not so fast....
Posted by: JPS at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (D++Xq)
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (/2aWP)
Four Anthrax shots for the win! Oh wait, that actually is real.
Posted by: Greyman27 at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (RKLPC)
I need to shop for some work dresses can you come with and give me your opinion? sure
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2021 12:53 PM (Fq1gB)"
Or the even more obscure "I guess"
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (sOXXq)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 14, 2021 12:54 PM (Obdic)
I suspect it is just a talking point that mostly means we will wait and see what happens. FDA does not have a great track record either.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (UPoLF)
Bullshit.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (UuD2k)
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that published study came out last month. So it wasn't known from "the beginning" it was suspected to be quite transmissible at first. Then people started to question that because the cruise ships experience didn't support it. THe published studies are coming out, the CDC just doesn't talk about any good news. HMMM, wonder why?
Posted by: conspiracy or not, this ain't right at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (WFC+Z)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (KbCG3)
Yep. This is why the side convos I overhear expressing shock and disgust towards other people (coworkers or randos) not willingly getting the vaccine infuriate me. Not only are these people not respecting the rights of others, but they aren't even directing their ire towards "our betters" who should be leading the way if this is the correct path.
But it is how it always is with the elite.
Posted by: Thrawn at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (Enc9Y)
>It's amazing what you can do with a staple gun and a little duct tape.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (2goRJ)
Case in point Bill Maher. And some baseball team who had 8 people who were vaccinated getting the covid.
Every time I see that someone else has gotten the covid after the shot makes me more sure I'm not taking it until maybe next year after they've got their story straight or the bugs worked out.
P.S. A LOT of those getting sick in India were also vaccinated.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (dLws2)
Those living in DC (let's say, the less paid workforce), probably have not taken it in as high a number.
Posted by: Nova local at May 14, 2021 12:58 PM (b1h2x)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 12:58 PM (wb3D1)
Yeah, and were experimented on as a control group, repeatedly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:58 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Greyman27 at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (RKLPC)"
I know guys who still have Deformed arms from that crap
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 12:58 PM (sOXXq)
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 12:58 PM (O+I8R)
dire, her cardiologist pulled me aside and said I was the only reason
she lasted as long and wasn't already in a nursing home. I sorta knew
that, but hearing it from the best heart doc in town was nice
BackwardsBoy - you are a fine, fine man. I always admired the way you so attentively cared for her.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 14, 2021 12:58 PM (45fpk)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 14, 2021 12:59 PM (GPwVZ)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 14, 2021 12:49 PM (mdjgu)
Nope. Banned!
Posted by: Leftists in Government, Tech and Media at May 14, 2021 12:59 PM (uhPTO)
Posted by: CN at May 14, 2021 12:59 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 12:59 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 14, 2021 12:59 PM (QeenG)
Yeah my problem with this Wuhan Flu stuff is that it is somehow simultaneously the most communicable disease of all time with a huge transmission rate in the world... and yet not when actually in an isolated, closed environment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:59 PM (KZzsI)
Especially if they're NOT doing it.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (E+OcO)
The butcher's bill from the CV19 injections is much higher than the VAERS stats.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 14, 2021 12:55 PM (ZNqzz)
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Another fun one is that there was a paper on the NIH website stating that the COVID vaccine compromised the bodies ability to fight off other viruses, and that the consent forms hid/obscured that information, and the conclusion it was probably unethical since consumers couldn't be informed about what they were putting into their bodies.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (wCgji)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (VVEnO)
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 14, 2021 12:54 PM (Obdic)
I suspect it is just a talking point that mostly means we will wait and see what happens. FDA does not have a great track record either.
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It's a bit harder to rig the FDA than the CDC. The CDC is just a political hack. The FDA has actual processes, multiple expert panels and requires experimental results. You can get a policitized panel with an agenda, or a crooked one, and you can fund faked up studies. Its just not as easy or predictable.
Posted by: conspiracy or not, this ain't right at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (M/boc)
Posted by: Marcus T
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Deformed arms?
Guess I should be lucky I only had a sore shoulder afterward.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: Brunnhilde at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (E3FAu)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (sOXXq)
Yeah, but "I guess" means I lack an answer or I'm unsure. I have an answer. It is "sure". And sure only means "not no".
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (Fq1gB)
One example: No, the Moderna vaccine does not affect your DNA. Doesn't even get into the cell nucleus.
It's reasonable to want to wait and see how things work before you get a shot, especially if you're in a low-risk group. This doesn't make you an "anti-vaxxer." That said, almost half the U.S. population has gotten at least one dose, so I think we're kind of past the "experimental" zone.
I think "vaccine passports," especially electronic ones, are a terrible idea. If you want to show your paper card for whatever reason, go for it. I live in a more conservative area where things are more relaxed on this issue, thank God. No restaurants are demanding to See My Papers, or being weird about putting masks on when you're not chewing. Stores still want masks to come in, but I think that's mostly inertia from the central offices.
Posted by: MW at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (KXr4W)
Posted by: CN at May 14, 2021 12:59 PM (ONvIw)
No, I would assume he pulled all non-essential gov employees. However that is still a bullshit move
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (GPwVZ)
My boss is a coldharded obstinate jerk that has resisted being told what to do ever since he threw his mashed bananas from his high chair some 29 odd years ago. No worries here.
Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (Tnijr)
Each successive injection was more painful and ached longer. All for the privilege of a 1-year unaccompanied tour in Korea, 12 miles from the DMZ.
Posted by: Greyman27 at May 14, 2021 01:01 PM (RKLPC)
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How'd they report their own deaths?
Posted by: zmdavid
They got better.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 01:01 PM (OCTRt)
The report notes Biden holds lengthy deliberation meetings and demands obsessive details from his advisors. When advisors get too technical or obscure about an issue, Biden responds with "an outburst of frustration, often laced with profanity."
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
"Too technical or obscure", huh? So if he's faced with something that doesn't conform 100% with what he thinks the details should be, he sundowns and lashes out?
Or is it frustration for not being able to remember things?
Posted by: Thrawn at May 14, 2021 01:01 PM (Enc9Y)
Posted by: Mookie at May 14, 2021 01:01 PM (u+Y3T)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 14, 2021 01:01 PM (wCgji)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 12:58 PM (wb3D1)
Laugh, but famed biochemist Linus Pauling seriously recommended that individuals with sickle-cell anemia markers get tattooed in a similar fashion so that prospective sex partners would see the marks and thus not hook-up.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 14, 2021 01:01 PM (+LCoQ)
How come any and ever doctor who offered a dissenting opinion on COVID was attacked relentlessly by the media and government?
How come the virus was used as a political attack day one, with one side lying through their teeth about the President's response? If it was so serious, why would you use it to attack someone for political gain?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 01:01 PM (4fSQf)
.. bringing us closer to being truly able to talk thru our butts
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 01:02 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 01:02 PM (sOXXq)
Posted by: grammie winger at May 14, 2021 12:43 PM (45fpk)
I'll say prayers for him and hope he gets better soon!
Posted by: Nova local at May 14, 2021 01:02 PM (b1h2x)
That said, almost half the U.S. population has gotten at least one dose, so I think we're kind of past the "experimental" zone.
Only once we've had a year or more to see the longer term effects. The whole "it didn't kill me or turn me inside out" thing is only part of the experiment.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:02 PM (KZzsI)
.. bringing us closer to being truly able to talk thru our butts
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 01:02 PM (RHGPo)
Turtles can.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2021 01:02 PM (UuD2k)
Details like, "Who are you? Why am I here?"
Posted by: t-bird
"Who shit my pants?"
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 01:02 PM (OCTRt)
Posted by: Mookie at May 14, 2021 01:01 PM (u+Y3T)
I thought it was NXIVM
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (Fq1gB)
The report notes Biden holds lengthy deliberation meetings and demands obsessive details from his advisors. When advisors get too technical or obscure about an issue, Biden responds with "an outburst of frustration, often laced with profanity."
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
To me this indicates he has difficulty making decisions. So he asks for more info, hoping it will make everything simple to decide, then gets frustrated and angry when that does not happen, yet still needs to make a decision.
Posted by: Gref at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (AMIL/)
refusal to get the vax a huge issue. I do not know what I am going to
do. He doesn't seem interested in the fact that I am as afraid of the
vax as he is of the virus (he got the vax).
Posted by: Brunnhilde
Buy a box of bandaids, slap one on your arm..."Look honey at the sacrifice I made for you."
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (QeenG)
==
the fact sheet that accompanies the vax explicitly covers the fact that it is not approved, only an EUA.
that said, its arguably insufficient because it doesn't tell the patient that they are basically taking an experimental drug. That said, they're immune. But I don't think its ethical unless you explicitly state that it is at this stage an "experimental" treatment.
Posted by: conspiracy or not, this ain't right at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (WFC+Z)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (VVEnO)
That silly GOP! Always seizing on things!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (UPoLF)
I had the virus.
Anyone who tells you that you need the vaccine after having the virus is the one who's really anti-science.
We've understood how immune systems work for over a century now. This virus is not special.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (KRE4Q)
Posted by: Mitch McConnell at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (Jsjd7)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 14, 2021 12:21 PM (wCgji)
And us. Or U.S.
Both.
Posted by: Flyover at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (pO7gM)
Every time I see that someone else has gotten the covid after the shot makes me more sure I'm not taking it until maybe next year after they've got their story straight or the bugs worked out.
P.S. A LOT of those getting sick in India were also vaccinated.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 14, 2021 12:57 PM (dLws2)
TBF, I've heard there's a problem in India with fake vaccines ie people thinking they're getting The Shot, but it's really saline.
OTOH, the positive tests with the vaccinated Yankees might be indictive of the vaccine not preventing illness outright, just abating symptoms.
Posted by: Thrawn at May 14, 2021 01:04 PM (Enc9Y)
Rinse/repeat, yes, but with Gaza, not many other options.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 01:04 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:04 PM (KZzsI)
refusal to get the vax a huge issue. I do not know what I am going to
do. He doesn't seem interested in the fact that I am as afraid of the
vax as he is of the virus (he got the vax).
Posted by: Brunnhilde
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My mom and dad said, no vaccine, don't bother to visit.
Okay.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:04 PM (+Vt0n)
"COVID-19 vaccines designed to elicit neutralising antibodies may sensitise vaccine recipients to more severe disease than if they were not vaccinated"
statement:
https://tinyurl.com/2276c674
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 14, 2021 01:04 PM (wCgji)
They dont trust people to be honest about whether they had covid or not so decided to just say everyone needs the vaccine.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 14, 2021 01:04 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 14, 2021 01:04 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM
We can only pounce so much, you know.
Posted by: The GOP at May 14, 2021 01:04 PM (m+jkK)
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 01:05 PM (pO7gM)
Posted by: Vyx at May 14, 2021 12:38 PM (h1hWo)
Which means the data are nonsense.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 14, 2021 01:05 PM (Q9lwr)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:02 PM (KZzsI)
We'll enter the year zone within a few weeks for the 1st test groups...
Posted by: Nova local at May 14, 2021 01:05 PM (b1h2x)
***
That. That part right there.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 14, 2021 01:05 PM (wCgji)
Okay.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:04 PM (+Vt0n)
++++
I'm sorry, SMH. That sucks bigly.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2021 01:05 PM (Jsjd7)
Posted by: Vic at May 14, 2021 01:05 PM (mpXpK)
Look, we need you to shut up and take the vaccine. There's no ulterior motive- you have to take the vaccine, it's very important that everyone take the vaccine.
Posted by: The Deep State at May 14, 2021 01:05 PM (UMXod)
It's their way to show he's on top of things. Little. Small. Big. Doesn't matter. He's engaged.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at May 14, 2021 01:05 PM (JC/0A)
I have actually considered that. I even saved the covid vax card that folks here posted. I can run it off at work but I REALLY do not want to lie like that to my own husband.
I am just shocked he is going down this road.
Posted by: Brunnhilde at May 14, 2021 01:05 PM (E3FAu)
Really? Because Phase IIII isn't completed. Nor has anyone declared they know the long term side affects on many different populations with other conditions. We are a long way from any clinical certainty
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (sOXXq)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (wb3D1)
Complicated things like explaining that eggs don't originate in grocery stores, that electricity doesn't come from a wall outlet...
Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (+LCoQ)
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Ditto. It's very sweet. BB is a good man and I'm sure he gave B'gal much comfort when she needed it most.
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (O+I8R)
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Thats probably because you have FACTORED OUT long term complications. The experiment aint over just because you survived the jab long enough to walk out of the doctors office. How long did it take to realize some of the pregnancy risk from other approved drugs?
Slow your roll.
Posted by: conspiracy or not, this ain't right at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (v5muY)
Get a vaccine or have "NV" tattooed in 30 point helvetica on your forehead. Your choice.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 12:58 PM
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That's un-American!! Help us fight for MS sans!!! Send money now!
Posted by: GOPe at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (SchQD)
If your husband gets the vaccine then what does he have to worry about? Other than you I mean.
Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (Tnijr)
Should be interesting to see the data. Remember, its 3 years to test a new drug by FDA rules. For a reason.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: CN at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (Tnijr)
I was kidding; I don't really expect that my "boss" (the one who's at a distance, but not the one who is in heaven
will tell me to get a vaccine. For one thing, almost everybody in the church has been vaccinated and there's enough turmoil in our denomination right now without them doing that.Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (k39e/)
Posted by: John Legend for Walgreens at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:59 PM (KZzsI)
That was about the time I came to the conclusion that everything you read about this and everything anybody in elective office says, is a lie. Everything.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (Obdic)
That would be my thought too, however, sooner or later, one runs out of ammo...
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 12:56 PM (r1z5A)
I'm getting a bit long in the tooth to go sprinting from bombed out building to bombed out building. I've pretty much accepted that when the JBTs come for me, my bullet-riddled body is going to have to be dug out of a mound of expended brass.
Shitty way to go, but better than starving on sawdust bread and pumpkin soup in Happy Fun Camp.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (n+4am)
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Greetings ... I believe the organizations who administer the vaccines are required to submit all adverse reactions (including deaths) to the VAERS site -- not the individuals who got the shots.
Posted by: Kathy at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (h3RRP)
We've understood how immune systems work for over a century now. This virus is not special.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (KRE4Q)
I am of the mindset that this virus was 'bad' in the beginning because there are millions everywhere that are on pharmaceuticals for various things. In paying attention to the ads they run on TV now, one of the first side effects is that it depletes the immune system.
Introduce Covid to a depleted immune system and see what happens.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Brunnhilde
Divorce is a viable option. Not joking. Someone that doesn't care about your worries is someone that doesn't have your back to begin with.
Sorry to break it down to you.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (OCTRt)
Behold Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntwz1DL_s7g&t=2s
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:07 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 01:07 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 12:37 PM
We can only pounce so much, you know.
Posted by: The GOP at May 14, 2021 01:04 PM
Major copy and paste fail. Off, spineless sock!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 14, 2021 01:07 PM (m+jkK)
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 01:07 PM (Zz0t1)
Sorry to break it down to you.
Posted by: rickb223
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*nods*
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:07 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 01:07 PM (O+I8R)
day one, with one side lying through their teeth about the President's
response? If it was so serious, why would you use it to attack someone
for political gain?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 01:01 PM (4fSQf)
I see things pretty much like you. I see that the virus is real. I see that it needed to be addressed. But then that effort became politically hijacked, and hopelessly mired in caca. We can't get to the truth because no one really wants the truth. They want to score points. There seems to be a lack of interest in a reasonable outcome.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 14, 2021 01:07 PM (45fpk)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 14, 2021 01:07 PM (k39e/)
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In all seriousness, if this information somehow leaks out into the general population - the one where everyone who wanted the shot has already gotten it - new vaccinations are done.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Only 24 total COVID related deaths in the military since 2019 at May 14, 2021 01:08 PM (wCgji)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 01:08 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: blaster at May 14, 2021 01:08 PM (ZfRYq)
That's terrible. Maybe you could offer to get tested first?
Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2021 01:08 PM (Tnijr)
refusal to get the vax a huge issue. I do not know what I am going to
do. He doesn't seem interested in the fact that I am as afraid of the
vax as he is of the virus (he got the vax).
Posted by: Brunnhilde
I'm sorry to hear that. Is he a high risk case for getting Covid? And you're not? If so, this is a toughie. Normally, marriages are about compromises and putting the other person 1st...but it's hard to say how a couple works things out when we know only the virtual...
Posted by: Nova local at May 14, 2021 01:08 PM (b1h2x)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (KRE4Q)
Au contraire. This virus was designed in a lab. Who the hell knows what is cooked into it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (wb3D1)
Posted by: CN at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (ONvIw)
The real orgasmic pleasure comes from forcing the serfs to get the shot.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 14, 2021 12:22 PM (2JVJo)
Bingo
Posted by: clutch at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (9UmRs)
182 New York Times reported Friday.
The report notes Biden holds lengthy deliberation meetings and
demands obsessive details from his advisors. When advisors get too
technical or obscure about an issue, Biden responds with "an outburst of
frustration, often laced with profanity."
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 12:44 PM (RHGPo)
I bet the LEGO Death Star is too complicated
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (RHGPo)
In addition, ivermectin and perhaps HCQ seems to be a good prophylactic for some to prevent getting it as well as minimizing the infection if you do. Might want to investigate whether a doctor will prescribe either of those to you. Vitamin D and C along with zinc and perhaps quercetin (all OTC supplements) can also help stave off severe cases if not prevent it.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (pO7gM)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 01:01 PM (4fSQf)
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I see a few possibilities for this. One is that they can't control what they put in motion. They went all-in on a vaccine and to turn around and say, "well, we did it and we think it works but it turns out to not have been necessary" is untenable, and to admit that there is an effective therapeutic regimen means that they don't get their EUA and the vaccines may never hit the market properly.
That's the tame answer. There are less-tame answers. One is that they want people afraid, sick, paranoid, panicked and frustrated until they go to the government for help and grant them their G-d given rights to enforce long-term compliance and subservience.
I don't know. There are as many possible answers as there are people. I think there's a whole lot of power of "and" going on, with explanations ranging from foolishness to stupidity to cowardice to arrogance to evil.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (Jsjd7)
Not one second more, not one second less.
What you do or don't do doesn't change that fact.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (4fSQf)
Okay.
Posted by: SMH
Tell them you just won ten million bucks !
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (arJlL)
When you combine that with a malicious deep state and a press that cannot be relied on to tell you what day it is, and we have a crisis of information and trust.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 01:10 PM (arJlL)
It is what it is.
They're the ones that will never see their only great-grandbabies, except for pics on FB that my daughters post.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:10 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 01:10 PM (sOXXq)
Sorry to break it down to you.
Posted by: rickb223
Friend of mine told me back when he was married to his 1st wife and his father was in the hospital dying of cancer, she told him he needed to spend more time at home.
That marriage didn't last.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)
If their vaccination isn't effective against covid, why would yours be?
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 01:10 PM (Lt1JN)
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FYI unless your doctor is a solo practitioner . . .
most big institution docs, have check lists they have to cover and get graded by the percentage of their patient population that covers the checklist. Possibly compensation tied indirectly.
Posted by: conspiracy or not, this ain't right at May 14, 2021 01:10 PM (Z/yVt)
So they admit that they have zero confidence in the vaccine saving them from infection. (that, and they are innumerate and don't understand what 99.8% recovery means)
Tell them to "wear the damn mask" the ultimate talisman against ever getting sick from the Wuhan Death Miasma.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 14, 2021 01:10 PM (+LCoQ)
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Gosh, Brunhilde, I don't know what to say to this. First off, Mr. Black would never dream of trying to tell me what to do. He knows better. I'm pretty stubborn. But aside from that, how can he feel it's his decision to harangue you into what he wants you to do any more than for you to do the same to him? If you had no say-so in his getting the vax, he should have no say-so in your choice.
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 01:11 PM (O+I8R)
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I haven't talked to them in well over a year.
Don't plan on starting now.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:12 PM (+Vt0n)
.. bringing us closer to being truly able to talk thru our butts
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 01:02 PM (RHGPo)
Turtles can.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 14, 2021 01:02 PM (UuD2k)
Mikey does it all the time.
Posted by: Raphael at May 14, 2021 01:12 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: Marcus T at May 14, 2021 01:10 PM (sOXXq)
I believe there have been courts that said companies cannot force this on employees. If they do, they assume all responsibility for any and all ailments that occur from said vaccination.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 01:12 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: x4 at May 14, 2021 01:12 PM (oA+QO)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (KZzsI)
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For good reasons. It doesn't take that long to find out if the vaccine is a good defense against the targeted disease. It does take that long for other normal conditions to accumulate in great enough volume that you learn whether there are weird, unexpected interactions (like getting sick with something else that blows you up, or take a drug that now works differently or not at all or becomes dangerous). It's complicated stuff and you can't map everything out. You do, to a point, have to wait and see.
Is three years always reasonable? Probably not. There are probably circumstances where it is excessive. But vaccines are powerful stuff and our regulatory structures are cautious with them.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 14, 2021 01:12 PM (Jsjd7)
I shake and tremble so bad now, all I'll be good for is to draw fire...
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 01:12 PM (r1z5A)
I attended a friend's wedding. They wrote their own vows (bad idea that seems wise and romantic to young people) and they told me everything.
The friend's vows were all about how wonderful the bride was, what she meant to him, all her great qualities and how that made him love her.
The bride's vows were all about how he made her feel.
I gave the marriage 5 years, to when she stopped feeling that way.
It didn't even make 4.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:13 PM (KZzsI)
We don't know what's in the CV19 injections.
Yet, we're being stampeded into getting injected.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 14, 2021 01:13 PM (ZNqzz)
Slow your roll.
Posted by: conspiracy or not, this ain't right at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (v5muY)
Hell it was what, 30-some years before they knew DES was bad?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 01:13 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: InCali at May 14, 2021 01:13 PM (ov5G+)
Sickle cell anemia is a terrible thing ta afflict your child with.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 01:13 PM (wb3D1)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 14, 2021 01:00 PM (VVEnO)
That silly GOP! Always seizing on things!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (UPoLF)
I thought it was "pounce" day. I must have missed a day somewhere.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 01:13 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: grammie winger
The virus is real. There are cheap, effective drugs that we have known how they operate for years.
Then it became political. Fuck politics.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 01:13 PM (OCTRt)
Okay.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:04 PM (+Vt0n)
My in-laws will be passing through this summer and said if I don't get the vax they don't want to see me.
Darn it.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 14, 2021 01:14 PM (dfRN6)
demands obsessive details from his advisors.
I think someone mistook Biden napping for deep thought.
This is not believable on its face based on how Biden has behaved in public these past few months. He rarely walks without assistance, garbles his speech, and often says things like "What am I signing?" (EOs) and "I don't know what I'm doing here."
Be better propagandists, NYT.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 14, 2021 01:14 PM (bDqIh)
Introduce Covid to a depleted immune system and see what happens.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 01:06 PM (Zz0t1)
One of my best friends got the shot and died of a heart attack a couple days later. I'm not sure it's unrelated, given that some types have been noted to cause blood clots.
Between that and my already having had it, I'll take my chances and trust my immune system. Even if it can reinfect, I've already demonstrated that I can beat it.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at May 14, 2021 01:14 PM (KRE4Q)
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at May 14, 2021 01:03 PM (KRE4Q)
Au contraire. This virus was designed in a lab. Who the hell knows what is cooked into it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (wb3D1)
Amen - see 2nd cases now occurring...which means baseline infected immunity is short...in fact, that may also be India's problem b/c they thought they hit herd immunity in Jan from infection (60% infected last year, or so they thought)...there's a Jan news piece with that info...
Posted by: Nova local at May 14, 2021 01:14 PM (b1h2x)
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My 85-year old dad is paranoid too, and has gotten the shots. I think, at least in cases like his, he sees the word "vaccine" and this is no different than all the others he took over his lifespan. Same as polio! My dad doesn't use the internet. He has no other sources of information. He only goes by what he hears and he hears the word "vaccine" and that's good enough for him.
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 01:15 PM (O+I8R)
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 01:13 PM (OCTRt)
Sad reality is that the most dangerous job on the planet, is being a Politician. Its not dangerous to YOU, just to everyone else.
They sure seem to kill a LOT of people.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 14, 2021 01:15 PM (oHd/0)
"Dick Cheney Invites Trump On Reconciliatory Hunting Trip"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:15 PM (KZzsI)
Wonder if VP Horris has regrets on being Blo Jidens diaper changer. When Blo Jiden goes down the drain Horris will go to. But, on the other side Horris loves to go down on things anyway...
Posted by: James at May 14, 2021 01:15 PM (yVV7Q)
He just gets so angry with me for not getting it. We really have no discussions because he just sees red and thinks I'm an idiot.
Posted by: Brunnhilde at May 14, 2021 01:15 PM (E3FAu)
After a year, we know the results. It produces a bit more illness than the common influenza, and four or five orders of magnitude more in fear.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 14, 2021 01:15 PM (+LCoQ)
Seen anecdotal reports from truckers that there seem to be more people just "zoning out" and driving off the road lately. Don't know what the correlation is between vaxxed people and single car accidents, but considering what we know about these things causing blood clots it can't be zero.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at May 14, 2021 01:16 PM (SchxB)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2021 01:16 PM (EZebt)
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 14, 2021 01:16 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 01:16 PM (pO7gM)
Posted by: Brunnhilde
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I'm sorry you have to deal with that.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:16 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: James at May 14, 2021 01:16 PM (yVV7Q)
Bill Maher, fully vaccinated, asymptomatic but tested Positive.
Why he took the test? I have no idea, but could be a false positive.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (oHd/0)
Then it became political. Fuck politics.
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This.
They have hidden and disparaged cheap and easy remedies and preventative measures, including HCQ + zinc, Vitamin D, getting sunlight and fresh air.
The obsessive herding us into expensive, untested vaccines, which we now hear will require a booster (more to come?), is political. There's clearly an agenda.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant
But it grants some immunity from Malaria. God gives, God takes away. (no snark, not joking.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (r1z5A)
There is a nationwide shortage of truck drivers right now and that may reflect over worked drivers rather than Covid shots.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (pO7gM)
Au contraire.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (wb3D1)
Wasn't he the Sergeant in CHIPS?
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: CN at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (yL+Ld)
If their vaccination isn't effective against covid, why would yours be?
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 01:10 PM (Lt1JN)
B/c they are in the very elderly or immuno-compromised group that gets less immunity from vaccines than regular folks. That's been established here...many times.
Assuming they are parents of the poster, they are older by 20 years+.
That said, that'd never be my position. I'm immunocompromised and visiting my non-vaccinated brother next week. But he knows to be careful and make sure he's not sick when he visits...and if he's not actively sick, then it's in a higher power's hands...
Posted by: Nova local at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (b1h2x)
To operate at the President of the United States level, you are managing systems, not operations. You need the Chief of Staff to tell you the list of people you need to call to give them a nudge on something, and you need to make periodic personal appearances to keep things on the tracks politically, but if you're spending your time on details, you're not spending your time on big picture things that only the President can do. Case in point: Jimmy Carter worrying about scheduling the White House tennis court while the country is burning down, versus Ronald Reagan focusing on defeating the USSR. Trump mostly got this right: Abraham Accords, Supreme Court and lower court appointments, illegal immigration and the wall, confronting China on trade, reforming NAFTA, early on defeating ISIS, etc. Trump was actually a quite consequential President because he got big things done. There is no chance that Biden has any clue, and the people around him want to get the one big thing done of making the US into a Western Europe social democratic nation.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (BMmaB)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:18 PM (KZzsI)
but of course
it's never been used before - people are the research
the Moderna CEO Ted Talks is making the rounds. He admits what it does. It changes you.
no thanks
fighting with hubby who got his first jab. I am so far waiting to see how this shakes out. Too many deaths. Too many uncertains down the road. How do we know what will happen to the jabee's 1 year 2 years or 3 years down the road? It sounds bad.
Posted by: artisanal ette at May 14, 2021 01:18 PM (Jse2M)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2021 01:16 PM (EZebt)
You should look into that. I believe the courts have ruled on that. Your company accepts the responsibility for any issues you have going forward from the vaccine, if any.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 01:18 PM (Zz0t1)
He just gets so angry with me for not getting
it. We really have no discussions because he just sees red and thinks
I'm an idiot.
Posted by: Brunnhilde
That is not good.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 01:18 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Shooter McGavin
I see him as the snake oil salesman from Josey Wales
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 14, 2021 01:18 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy not a DHS informant
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At least don't have to worry about that.
No one in my family carries the trait.
Must be because we got lots of that white people's blood coursing through our veins.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:19 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (iTXRQ)
My body, my choice.
Remember THAT one?
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 01:19 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: James at May 14, 2021 01:19 PM (yVV7Q)
You might want to search google for the news about TED the Moderna chief medical officer was involved in where he said that the "vaccine" definitely changed your genetics/dna.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 14, 2021 01:19 PM (dLws2)
If you're vaccinated, why care what I do? If you're right, all us unvaxxed people will die, leaving only the vaxed.
If you can't catch it, why does it matter to you what I do?
The only people I can infect would be others choosing not to take it and we all agreed to make our choice and accept the risk.
So why the fuss?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 01:19 PM (4fSQf)
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... Russia will spread her errors throughout the world raising up wars and persecutions against the Church, the good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated.
Posted by: because yesterday was the Feast Day of O.L. of Fatima at May 14, 2021 01:19 PM (A/GA4)
Posted by: Nonapod at May 14, 2021 01:20 PM (K4vtd)
Posted by: James at May 14, 2021 01:20 PM (yVV7Q)
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 14, 2021 01:20 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 14, 2021 01:01 PM (+LCoQ)
Sickle-Cell, but not Tay-Sachs or Huntington's Chorea or hemophilia. Huh.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 14, 2021 01:20 PM (mdjgu)
I'm skeptical myself, but I don't blame him if it's true.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 14, 2021 01:20 PM (HrMC1)
Moderna Chief Medical Officer Confirms mRNA Injection For COVID-19 Can Change Your Genetic Code
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Yeah, I prefer not to be experimented on by Big Pharma.
Especially to get limited protection from a virus that has a 99.9%+ survival rate.
There are no long terms studies, and we don't know what the long-term effects of the vaccines might be.
If other people want to get the vaccines, that's up to them, and I wish them the best of luck. But I'll pass.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 14, 2021 01:20 PM (k4dH2)
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 14, 2021 01:16 PM (EZebt)
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Your company is okay with the liability issues they will be responsible for, if there are an adverse effects from the vaccine?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker at large at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (zUEDs)
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Remember when we were told it came from puddles of bat/animal juices at the wet markets?
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (O+I8R)
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (RHGPo)
Some of those bigger Lego sets can be very complicated.
Why yes I do still build Legos. Did not get the Death Star one though.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (Ojki1)
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its called Moderna because their mission statement is to MODERNIZE human RNA.
Posted by: Hubris Much? at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (A/GA4)
So what? Lots of things alter your DNA. Even if you do nothing, just aging will alter your DNA. (via copy-mutations)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (+LCoQ)
Not that it does. But it can. The cell can screw up and the messenger rna becomes transcribed into your dna under certain conditions.
Also other genetic scientists last year (from harvard and mit) were concerned that enough testing was not done on the instances of the dna being changed and the side effects over time.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (dLws2)
fighting with hubby who got his first jab. I am so far waiting to see how this shakes out. Too many deaths. Too many uncertains down the road. How do we know what will happen to the jabee's 1 year 2 years or 3 years down the road? It sounds bad.
Posted by: artisanal ette
My neighbor just died the day of his jab.
He was healthy as a horse.
I'm having a hard time with this. he was a good guy.
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (arJlL)
As I said, there are some drugs, albeit with possible side effects, that have proven to be somewhat of a preventative (HCQ plus zinc and Ivermectin) if taken regularly. Do your own research and find a health professional that is willing to listen and provide good information about the risks and benefits of each course of action.
Remember that the COVID vaccines have not yet been approved by the FDA for anything other than emergency use.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (pO7gM)
If you're vaccinated, why care what I do? If you're right, all us unvaxxed people will die, leaving only the vaxed.
If you can't catch it, why does it matter to you what I do?
The only people I can infect would be others choosing not to take it and we all agreed to make our choice and accept the risk.
So why the fuss?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 01:19 PM (4fSQf)
exactly
my body my choice, which cannot be repeated enough
so they are all in on killing innocent children in your own body but you're not in control of your own life?
please
Posted by: artisanal ette at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (Jse2M)
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A lot of young women (and men) have had the jab.
Will be interesting to see how fertility is affected.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:22 PM (+Vt0n)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
I have been in organizations (industries even) which were in denial.
An examples - there is a whole industry around a certain technology and a new tech comes along which is going to wipe out all existing firms because it makes the old thing unnecessary. Well, the big established firms all get this blindness.
Partly they ignore reality, partly they have doubts, and partly they trust the guys at the top. but the guys at the top have to much vested interest and are in deep denial.
It is an odd psychological phenomena. It makes people latch on to credentials to justify the "this is fine" while the room is on fire.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 14, 2021 01:22 PM (kfFO8)
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at May 14, 2021 01:17 PM (yL+Ld)
That would be ironic, because Salk was a shoo-in to get the Nobel Prize for Medicine. He didn't get it, because everyone he worked with hated him.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 14, 2021 01:22 PM (mdjgu)
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Remember when we were told it came from puddles of bat/animal juices at the wet markets?
Posted by: Lady in Black
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What, did you expect me to own up to financing the whole thing?
Posted by: Tony the salesman at May 14, 2021 01:22 PM (A/GA4)
Posted by: Jen the original at May 14, 2021 01:22 PM (B94oO)
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (RHGPo)
Some of those bigger Lego sets can be very complicated.
Why yes I do still build Legos. Did not get the Death Star one though.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (Ojki1)
And they are mucho expensivo. I can't believe some of the price tags I see for those things. $100s of dollars.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2021 01:22 PM (Fq1gB)
So what? Lots of things alter your DNA. Even if you do nothing, just aging will alter your DNA. (via copy-mutations)
Posted by: Reuben Hick at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (+LCoQ)
I'll let natural occurrence happen. Taking a man altered 'vaccine' to do it is something COMPLETELY different.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 01:22 PM (Zz0t1)
He just gets so angry with me for not getting it. We really have no discussions because he just sees red and thinks I'm an idiot.
Posted by: Brunnhilde at May 14, 2021 01:15 PM (E3FAu)
BP has been a major risk factor for severe Covid...as is being over 60. I think you two need to work this out...
Posted by: Nova local at May 14, 2021 01:23 PM (b1h2x)
Posted by: Brunnhilde at May 14, 2021 01:23 PM (E3FAu)
I'm excited.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a dangerous profession with a Hawksian woman at my side at May 14, 2021 01:23 PM (LvTSG)
Looks like Israel might have leaked false info about Gaza ground invasion to lazy US media outlets to trick Hamas fighters into their tunnels. Then they bombed tunnels & killed 100s of terrorists. If so, an effective way to avoid more civilian deaths
Posted by: James at May 14, 2021 01:23 PM (yVV7Q)
Why yes I do still build Legos. Did not get the Death Star one though.
Posted by: Bete
The transmission in the dozer is a piece of art and nightmare inducing.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 01:24 PM (r1z5A)
He was healthy as a horse.
I'm having a hard time with this. he was a good guy.
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (arJlL)
sorry to hear
too many healthy are passing away or getting horrible side effects that will never go away
they are experimenting on us - but leaving themselves out. Ask Congress how many have taken it. Remember the empty syringe with the fake AOC shot?
Pelosi will mumble something about medical patient's rights to not disclose...
Posted by: artisanal ette at May 14, 2021 01:24 PM (Jse2M)
Ivermectin has been used to treat sars-based illnesses and others for years around the world. Millions of people. What on earth are you going on about?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:24 PM (KZzsI)
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A lot of young women (and men) have had the jab.
Will be interesting to see how fertility is affected.
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If by "interesting" you mean "existential dread".
if people stop having babies, guess what happens to the economy/stock market?
Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at May 14, 2021 01:24 PM (A/GA4)
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 01:24 PM (OTzUX)
If you're vaccinated, why care what I do? If you're right, all us unvaxxed people will die, leaving only the vaxed.
If you can't catch it, why does it matter to you what I do?
The only people I can infect would be others choosing not to take it and we all agreed to make our choice and accept the risk.
So why the fuss?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 01:19 PM (4fSQf)
I have been saying exactly this. I just don't get it.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 01:24 PM (Ez6QX)
What does your husband say about you not getting the vax?
Posted by: Brunnhilde at May 14, 2021 01:23 PM (E3FAu)
massive fighting
Posted by: artisanal ette at May 14, 2021 01:24 PM (Jse2M)
Posted by: Jordan61
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I don't get it either.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:25 PM (+Vt0n)
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I can see it now. It will be like the Radium Girls, trying to get those clock companies to acknowledge their jaws falling off was caused by the glowing paint.
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 01:25 PM (O+I8R)
Will be interesting to see how fertility is affected.
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If by "interesting" you mean "existential dread".
if people stop having babies, guess what happens to the economy/stock market?
Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at May 14, 2021 01:24 PM (A/GA4)
Welcome to the World of the Desert Strom Veteran.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 14, 2021 01:26 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: somedood at May 14, 2021 01:26 PM (U+s6u)
I think the theraputics were dismissed because Big Pharma had already too much invested in vaccines, and knew there was a ton of money to be made and they would all be rich if this new market was real. The catch was - what if there was a cheap easy cure? well they had to dismiss that. And whenever any scientist was challenged he would simply go back to his lizard brain and say how it was probably not really working and the data was bad, and by the way it is too dangerous, and reeeeeeeeeee. This was that dismissal where they have to believe in what they are doing. ("To me kid, there's always a band.")
But when that gets told to reporters and gov. employees who wanted to Kill-Trump, they amplified it.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 14, 2021 01:26 PM (kfFO8)
Posted by: Jordan61
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I don't get it either.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:25 PM (+Vt0n)
Tripled.
Even without seeing Jordan's boobs.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Edwin Santiago at May 14, 2021 01:26 PM (NjB0Z)
He was healthy as a horse.
I'm having a hard time with this. he was a good guy.
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (arJlL)
Aw, hell. I'm sorry JT.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 01:26 PM (Ez6QX)
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STOP idioting up the board.
P.I.A. stands for the THREE GREATEST drugs in human history. Penicillin, Ivermectin and Aspirin. Ivermectin has been used, conservatively on humans, 4 billion doses. If you do not know what you are talking about. Don't.
Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at May 14, 2021 01:26 PM (A/GA4)
illnesses and others for years around the world. Millions of people.
What on earth are you going on about?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:24 PM (KZzsI)
But it's chiefly an anti-parasitic, no?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 14, 2021 01:27 PM (45fpk)
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 01:27 PM (O+I8R)
Posted by: somedood at May 14, 2021 01:26 PM (U+s6u)
oh they have jab after jab lined up from here on out
Posted by: artisanal ette at May 14, 2021 01:27 PM (Jse2M)
That silly GOP! Always seizing on things!
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
I thought it was "pounce" day. I must have missed a day somewhere.
Posted by: Bete
The S and P 500
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2021 01:27 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: somedood at May 14, 2021 01:26 PM (U+s6u)
Antibodies for as little as 3 months is normal. Typically the body remembers how to generate them for longer than that, but it doesn't really matter because viruses like this mutate a lot. For the same reason the vaccines aren't likely to be all that effective.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is Already Dead at May 14, 2021 01:27 PM (z5Vrg)
But that's all beside the point.
If I'm the guy saying "You must WEAR THE MASK and GET THE VACCINE or YOU WILL DIE or I WILL LOCK YOU IN YOUR HOMES FOREVER or both of those awful outcomes?"
Well, then I better be g-ddamned certain that every single one of my employees has done these things, or been fired by the time I make that aggressive, authoritarian, fear-mongering statement.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 14, 2021 01:27 PM (Uh2oA)
So why the fuss?
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Exactly.Now watch this Rachel Maddow clip for some insight into the mindset:
https://tinyurl.com/5mhcpnpw
These people have been damaged by the pandemic, and sh admits they have completely rewired their thinking.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 14, 2021 01:28 PM (bDqIh)
Yeah this is a different target for its effects but Ivermectin hardly unknown in its effects on human beings, and testing has show it to be tremendously effective for fighting the Wuhan Flu.
The "vaccine" is clearly and openly stated to be new and experimental and almost completely untested.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:28 PM (KZzsI)
The S and P 500
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2021 01:27 PM (63Dwl)
Richard Petty won that race 5 times.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Ashli Babbitt at May 14, 2021 01:29 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (RHGPo)
I bet the lego garden wall is too complicated.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 14, 2021 01:29 PM (kfFO8)
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Covid vaccines ARE untested experimental drugs. And we currently don't know what, it any, long term effects they will have on people -- because they are untested experimental drugs.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 14, 2021 01:29 PM (k4dH2)
Ivermectin is approved for the use of stopping two debilitating diseases from parasites in Africa. The've been using it for over 20 years. It's also been noted for it's safety and lack of side effects.
Just as Hydroxychloroquine was pooh poohed because it wasn't approved for use against the covid saying it was risky. but the dosage was no different than what's been given to those with malaria and that's been done and approved safe for years.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 14, 2021 01:29 PM (dLws2)
Posted by: Vyx at May 14, 2021 01:30 PM (uxqZF)
Your body is the most lethal virus killing machine ever invented.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 01:30 PM (4fSQf)
Yeah, this isn't some "internet story" its objective, absolute fact as stated clearly by the companies that create these things. There's zero question about it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:30 PM (KZzsI)
In reality, a certain amount of intelligence is necessary which is probably close to the average for those with a college education at least. The complexities of the issues recently may have increased that requirement to 130 plus for more recent presidents but does not relieve a president from needing street smarts beyond iq in basic delegation requiring supervision and decision-making.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 01:30 PM (pO7gM)
Posted by: grammie winger at May 14, 2021 01:30 PM (45fpk)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest
*Snort*
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 01:31 PM (r1z5A)
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 01:27 PM (O+I8R)
at least my husband is not bullying me...
I show him articles and videos about how dangerous it all is, that is when the fighting starts. He said he did not say anything about my decision so I should do the same for him. He thinks everything I show him is a conspiracy theory. I tried to dissuade HIM from getting it. Told him he is playing Russian Roulette. Tried to get him to hold off a few months, common sense to see if there are big issues, but family far left kook pressure. They are all celebrating getting it. The looks they gave me when I said "I'm waiting." lol
Posted by: artisanal ette at May 14, 2021 01:31 PM (Jse2M)
"The 2nd quarter was rough for the banking sector in Gaza, with many institutions being vaporized, literally, by the IDF."
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 01:31 PM (OTzUX)
Had to take it in 2003 and 2006.
2008, it was no longer administered due to some having psychological side-effects.
Posted by: SMH at May 14, 2021 01:31 PM (+Vt0n)
I am not sure, there was a link on the sidebar of a Johns Hopkins doctor and scientist who talked quite a bit about it
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:31 PM (KZzsI)
If you're vaccinated, why care what I do? If you're right, all us unvaxxed people will die, leaving only the vaxed.
If you can't catch it, why does it matter to you what I do?
The only people I can infect would be others choosing not to take it and we all agreed to make our choice and accept the risk.
So why the fuss?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 01:19 PM (4fSQf)
I have been saying exactly this. I just don't get it.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 01:24 PM (Ez6QX)
I think a part of this--not the whole reason--but a part of this is that the vaxxed want you to get it too so they don't feel like a sucker for getting it--while YOU didn't.
I think the Mask Nazis were partly driven by the same thing--"I have to wear this damn mask, so I'm going to make sure EVERYONE has to wear it.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 14, 2021 01:32 PM (HrMC1)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 14, 2021 01:32 PM (mdjgu)
it wasn't approved for use against the covid saying it was risky. but
the dosage was no different than what's been given to those with malaria
and that's been done and approved safe for years.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 14, 2021 01:29 PM (dLws2)
I took it for years. It worked but kinda messed up my eyesight, so they stopped it. I think that only happens in long-term use though, so probably fine for Covid.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 14, 2021 01:32 PM (45fpk)
It sounds more like its scaring him to hear about it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:32 PM (KZzsI)
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Discovery of Ivermectin, in the dirt on a Japanese golf course.
Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at May 14, 2021 01:33 PM (A/GA4)
2008, it was no longer administered due to some having psychological side-effects.
Well nobody needs angry tankers driving around
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:33 PM (KZzsI)
Easy there cowpoke.
No need to get all wound up. Last I heard that kind of virus can't transmit thru the USB socket.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 14, 2021 01:34 PM (dLws2)
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I did read about it, the connection, but I can't remember where I saw it. Lessens the damage done to the lungs due to its anti-viral properties.
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 14, 2021 01:35 PM (O+I8R)
2008, it was no longer administered due to some having psychological side-effects.
OMG, yes! Took it once for work travel and had wild technicolor dreams like nothing ever experienced before or after. Had a colleague who had taken it several times and he had technicolor nightmares about being on fire and wild mood swings. I wouldn't take Larium again.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 14, 2021 01:35 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Jordan61
They seem to have themselves in a logic pretzel. They did the same with masks, but then came out with the nonsense that masks do NOT protect the wearer, but only protect others if you are infected (if it protected the wearer, then even non-masked carriers would not be a problem.)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 14, 2021 01:35 PM (kfFO8)
Posted by: JM in Florida at May 14, 2021 01:35 PM (HCeRP)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:33 PM (KZzsI)
Give me, weed, whites and wine....and show me a sign, and I'll be willing....to move.
Posted by: Old School Truckers at May 14, 2021 01:37 PM (jvt6t)
Posted by: somedood .... [response]
Antibodies for as little as 3 months is normal. Typically the body remembers how to generate them for longer than that, but it doesn't really matter because viruses like this mutate a lot. For the same reason the vaccines aren't likely to be all that effective."
IMO you're both a bit wrong and a bit right. Not a doc but I read and work with detailed medical literature as part of my (classified) job.
The level of circulating antibodies are known to degrade over months for Covid, which is typical for antibody responses to most diseases. However, the amount/level of circulating antibodies has nothing to do with "memory cell" immunity which, when presented with a familiar foe, then triggers production of more antibodies to fight the invader.
And, specific to Covid, they have determined a "robust" memory cell response detectable at least 8 mos out (with 95% of those previously infected showing robust response at this point).
Posted by: Zek at May 14, 2021 01:37 PM (5RTdG)
No replies from Mr. Ed, please
Posted by: JM in Florida at May 14, 2021 01:35 PM (HCeRP)
If I'm not mistaken, there really aren't 'human' grade vs 'animal' grade medicines.
Posted by: Tami at May 14, 2021 01:37 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 14, 2021 01:37 PM (5HBd1)
And extrapolating from similar viruses, most virologists believe that, given a robust memory cell response, there is no reason to believe that Covid 19 memory cell immunity from actual/prior infection will not last at least a couple of years, perhaps much longer.
Posted by: Zek at May 14, 2021 01:38 PM (5RTdG)
Posted by: Mr. Ed at May 14, 2021 01:39 PM (ZNqzz)
illnesses and others for years around the world. Millions of people.
What on earth are you going on about?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 14, 2021 01:24 PM (KZzsI)
But it's chiefly an anti-parasitic, no?
Posted by: grammie winger
Horse and dog de-wormer.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 01:40 PM (OCTRt)
No replies from Mr. Ed, please
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Do not use the kind that is meant to be applied to the fur/skin that is dissolved in a oil that is like diesel.
the flavored kind, are obviously made for oral consumption.
The dose rate for humans is 1ml per 110 pounds or so. Its not super precise, like cold medicine, 13 year old takes about same dose as adult male even though big weight difference. You don't want to be chugging 3ml though.
Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at May 14, 2021 01:40 PM (M/boc)
Me, I fear all products ever made, especially drugs.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at May 14, 2021 01:40 PM (kfFO8)
Or how about putting it a little more simply: "I'm going to strip you of your freedom & dignity for the good of the human species as a whole, but my guys can't be bothered with that gay shit."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 14, 2021 01:40 PM (Uh2oA)
And natural infection, being exposed to the whole enchilada as opposed to only the "spike" that the vaccine trains your body to respond to is, by general principles of medicine, generally more effective at recognizing mutations than the vaccine.
Posted by: Zek at May 14, 2021 01:41 PM (5RTdG)
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Discovery of Ivermectin, in the dirt on a Japanese golf course.
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If you want to know more about Ivermectin read this article.
Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at May 14, 2021 01:41 PM (M/boc)
No replies from Mr. Ed, please
Posted by: JM in Florida at May 14, 2021 01:35 PM (HCeRP)
If I'm not mistaken, there really aren't 'human' grade vs 'animal' grade medicines.
Posted by: Tami
They call them that so they can charge you more. Erythromycin that is made for fish, I'm sure is made on the same line as the erythromycin made for humans. The cost to set up two separate lines and then sell fish antibiotics on the cheap would be cost prohibitive.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 14, 2021 01:42 PM (OCTRt)
Ann and Alex Jones were the only people I frequent who warned about the CV19 psyop from day one.
Posted by: callsign claymore at May 14, 2021 01:44 PM (ZNqzz)
Posted by: SMOD at May 14, 2021 01:09 PM (RHGPo)
Some of those bigger Lego sets can be very complicated.
Why yes I do still build Legos. Did not get the Death Star one though.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 01:21 PM (Ojki1)
And they are mucho expensivo. I can't believe some of the price tags I see for those things. $100s of dollars.
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Yep. Very expensive, but also very cool. The Super Star Destroyer takes about 20 hours to assemble, but looks very sweet.
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 01:47 PM (ZIoLS)
Posted by: Jen the original at May 14, 2021 01:51 PM (XoBlX)
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Your marveling is sad. It's like liberal math. It's really not hard to read the FDA EUA (Emergency Use Authorization). Do you not understand why a EUA is necessary? Riddle me this - how many times have mRNA vaccines been used in humans before this? Or what is the traditional process for vaccination approval? Or what were the reasons no SARS I and MERS vaccines were successful in 17 years? What are logical risks base on SARS I and MERS animal trials that were skipped for the current vaccines? No one is rooting for this to fail. It better work considering all who have taken it. It also isn't hard to read research medical papers.
Posted by: Piratepatch at May 14, 2021 01:52 PM (6BPfp)
There is a peer reviewed article coming out that analyzed multiple studies conducted with ivermectin in a number of countries actually applied to patients. Monash Univ. in Australia demonstrated last spring that ivermectin killed COVID in human cells in test tubes but not necessarily in patients. Ivermectin has both anti viral as well as anti inflammatory properties documented in previous studies before Covid.
This is a blog post on the key finding and studies regarding human use of ivermectin that I could find. https://tinyurl.com/3s3dm57u
The paper to be published is 'Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19' and is supposedly coming out in the May June of Amer. Journal of Theurapeutics.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 01:52 PM (pO7gM)
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I guess you haven't read the papers on T cells then.
SARS I - 17 years and counting. T cell response in Covid 19 also.
Posted by: Piratepatch at May 14, 2021 01:57 PM (6BPfp)
So no thanks.
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Posted by: JM in Florida at May 14, 2021 02:37 PM (8eIdj)
BTW I just got my second Moderna shot and my ears are ringing like a SOB.
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