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Friday Overnight Open Thread – 05/14/2021 [Buck Throckmorton]
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ART THREAD OR GARDEN THREAD?
Here is yet another form of art that is better and more creative than most any art taking up space in the Whitney or other museums of modern art…Tree Shaping.
More at the link.
What skills do you have that fill you with an artist’s pride when you complete the project? It could be carpentry, landscaping, car restoration, flower arranging, ice sculpting, whatever. Congratulations on your talent. Let’s hear about it. Heck, feel free to send me a picture. I’d enjoy seeing your handiwork.
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REMEMBER THE ALAMO
In tribute to Weird Dave’s new home state of Texas, how ‘bout we Remember The Alamo tonight?
First off – how cool is this photo? It’s a daguerreotype from 1849 – just 13 years after the Battle of the Alamo.
Enrique Esparza gave this first-hand account of the Battle of the Alamo to the San Antonio Light newspaper in 1902. He was 8-years old and in the Alamo compound during the famous 1836 siege. His father Gregory – an Alamo defender – was killed in the battle. His father’s brother was one of Santa Anna’s troops at the battle. This is an amazing recounting of the siege and the battle.
"The roof of the Alamo had been taken off and the south side filled up with dirt almost to the roof on that side so that there was a slanting embankment up which the Americans could run and take positions. During the fight I saw numbers who were shot in the head as soon as they exposed themselves from the roof. There were holes made in the walls of the fort and the Americans continually shot from these also. We also had two cannon, one at the main entrance and one at the northwest corner of the fort near the post office. The cannon were seldom fired. I remember Crockett. He was a tall, slim man, with black whiskers. He was always at the head. The Mexicans called him Don Benito. The Americans said he was Crockett. He would often come to the fire and warm his hands and say a few words to us in the Spanish language. I also remember hearing the names of Travis and Bowie mentioned, but I never saw either of them that I know of.”
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WHO’S YOUR FAVORITE DAVY CROCKETT?
2004’s movie version of The Alamo was unfairly panned by critics, mainly because movie critics are leftists who hate the reverence that Americans hold for the martyred heroes of the Alamo, therefore the crtitics had to hate on a good movie. Billy Bob Thornton stole the show as David Crockett.
Who’s your favorite Davy Crockett – Fess Parker, John Wayne, or Billy Bob Thornton? (My vote is with Billy Bob.)
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SONGS ABOUT THE ALAMO
With apologies to the great Marty Robbins and his song “Ballad of the Alamo,” my nod for best song about the Alamo is the retro-rockin’ “Stout and High” by Monte Warden and the Wagoneers. Here’s a performance from them on Austin City Limits.
The fighting at the northern wall seems to have stopped
Did you see Travis fall?
God save Texas and my kids, have mercy on my soul,
Great God they’re in the walls
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SPEAKING OF BRAVE MEN & THE ALAMO
Speaking of brave men and the Alamo...here is the most decorated soldier of WWII standing in front of the Alamo.
From Murphy’s exposed position on top of the burning tank destroyer, he killed over 20 German soldiers and repelled their attack. For more than an hour, Murphy continued to fire the machine gun, despite being wounded in the leg. He then led his company in a counterattack that killed or wounded 50 more German soldiers. On April 23, 1945, at the age of only 19, Murphy received the Medal of Honor for his actions. Though Murphy’s heroism on January 26 was extraordinary, it was not the first time Murphy had distinguished himself. He had previously received over 20 awards for valor, including the Distinguished Service Cross, two Silver Star medals, and two Bronze Star medals for valor in Italy and France.
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POET, SONGWRITER, AND MEDAL OF HONOR RECIPIENT
Did you know that Audie Murphy also wrote poetry, and co-wrote numerous songs (with Scott Turner.) Among the famous singers who recorded Audie’s songs were Charley Pride, Dean Martin, Bobby Bare, Eddy Arnold, and Roy Clark. Here’s Dean Martin singing a sad waltz co-written by Audie.
Shutters and Boards
When Charles Coolidge was growing up outside Chattanooga, his grammar school class received a visit from Sgt. Alvin York, the Tennessean famed for World War I exploits that brought him the Medal of Honor. In the aftermath of World War II, it was Sergeant Coolidge making the rounds of his home state, telling of another harrowing firefight in France, this one bringing him the nation’s highest decoration for valor in his own right. Celebrated in Chattanooga with a park and a highway and at the Charles H. Coolidge National Medal of Honor Heritage Center, Mr. Coolidge died there on Tuesday. He was 99 and the oldest living recipient of the nation’s highest award for valor.
Early Thursday morning, a domestic assault victim called 911 for help. Even though she had been cut and was bleeding, she was told to relocate a block away so police could respond. Her story is not the only one; others in the area have wondered when officers will make it inside the “no-go zone” to provide their service.
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GREAT MOMENTS FROM JOHN RITTER
Have you ever watched comedies from the 1970s and realized that the popular shows that critics panned – such as Three’s Company – have stood up over the decades much better than the “intellectual” comedies such as MASH or Maude? Three’s Company had no pretensions about it, yet it starred a comedy genius in John Ritter. Here are some of his great moments:
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LIBERTARIANS LOVE FOREIGN SLAVE LABOR
Confederate slaveowners used the same logic to defend slavery as the Cato Institute uses to defend women living a life as human chattel in foreign sweatshops.
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THE WISDOM OF CASEY STENGEL
Some thoughts from baseball legend Casey Stengel.
Never make predictions, especially about the future.
Good pitching will always stop good hitting, and vice-versa.
The key to being a good manager is keeping the people who hate me away from those who are still undecided.
Son, it ain’t the water cooler that’s striking you out.
I feel greatly honored to have a ballpark named after me, especially since I've been thrown out of so many.
When you are younger you get blamed for crimes you never committed and when you're older you begin to get credit for virtues you never possessed. It evens itself out.
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CLASSICAL MUSIC YOU KNOW BUT CAN”T NAME
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart’s Rondo Alla Turca is better known as the Turkish March. This is some beautiful piano music
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MOTIVATION
(h/t despair.com)
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THROCKMORTON’S FIRST LAW OF LIVE MUSIC: IF THERE’S AN UPRIGHT BASS IN THE BAND, IT’S PROBABLY GOING TO BE GOOD
Chris Hillman has had a fabulous musical career, including his role as a key member of The Byrds, The Flying Burrito Brothers, and The Desert Rose Band, with music that encompasses country, folk, rock, bluegrass and gospel. In recent years he has been touring with his old Desert Rose bandmate Herb Pedersen.
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Tonight’s overnight thread has been brought to you by Wooly Chaps. And ladies, it’s never too early to start thinking about Christmas gifts for the cowboy in your life. He’ll love these.
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Thanks again to the horde for letting me play host tonight. Please feel free to offer any helpful feedback, insults, or tips at buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com
We can haz the always elegant "Feldgrau" ONT theme again??
Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021 09:02 PM (H+h2h)
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I never feel artistic. I don't DO anything artistic. I'm just not a creative person.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 09:04 PM (s9fsa)
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That tree-shaping thing is really quite neat. Imagine the patience you have to have to get it "right." And what do you do if it comes out wrong? Chop it down and start all over?
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 09:04 PM (hQrcu)
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16 That tree-shaping thing is really quite neat. Imagine the patience you have to have to get it "right." And what do you do if it comes out wrong? Chop it down and start all over?
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 09:04 PM (hQrcu)
Those trees were my friends before you worked Orcish mischief on them!
Posted by: Fangorn at May 14, 2021 09:06 PM (caWeG)
Posted by: LTCHAM at May 14, 2021 09:06 PM (dhYmp)
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We can haz the always elegant "Feldgrau" ONT theme again??
Posted by: Zettai
Guess I have to break out the white shirts.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2021 09:06 PM (Rvt88)
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Although a resident of TN, I'm not a native. I live near Alvin York's hometown and have visited his gravesite. I think he could be identified as the most decorated American soldier in WWI.
Posted by: LRob in TN at May 14, 2021 09:08 PM (jboH3)
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Those trees were my friends before you worked Orcish mischief on them!
Posted by: Fangorn at May 14, 2021 09:06 PM (caWeG) -----LOL! nice one! I can imagine a bunch of lefty environmentalists getting bent out of shape over man having the hubris to alter the natural growth of the trees. Even though they don't look like they are "suffering."
Posted by: Lord Squirrel at May 14, 2021 09:08 PM (hQrcu)
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Tell me this color scheme isn't much better the normal one. Go ahead.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 09:08 PM (OTzUX)
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Got an invite to join my local nextdoor. Thoughts?
Posted by: SFGoth at May 14, 2021 09:09 PM (KAi1n)
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That tree-shaping thing is really quite neat. Imagine the patience you
have to have to get it "right." And what do you do if it comes out
wrong? Chop it down and start all over?
Posted by: Lord Squirrel
Friend tried to grow banzai marijuana...why?
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 09:09 PM (r1z5A)
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Festivities continue in Gaza. Rocket attacks on Ashdod, Ashkelon, Be'er Sheva, Sderot, etc (all in the south). Lively Israeli greeting program underway involving airstrikes, artillery, and naval gunboat fire.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 09:10 PM (OTzUX)
The day walkers are going to be so envious of teh ONT's new special theme...
Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021 09:12 PM (H+h2h)
45 Got an invite to join my local nextdoor. Thoughts?
Posted by: SFGoth at May 14, 2021 09:09 PM (KAi1n)
--- if you had sane neighbors, i'd say yes, maybe...
since you live in Frisco, it will be populated by the Karenwafe, and a sewer of woke stupidity. join only for the Lulz, and the occasional offer of free or cheap stuff you can use.
It was a mixed bag: on the good side, the legislature passed a measure to defend gun rights, saying any federal registration or confiscation attempt would be considered null and void in the state (gap between words and practices, of course, but still); on the bad side, they rammed through a massive gas-tax increase, which is just what we need right now obviously.
Hopefully the governor signs the former and vetoes the latter, but I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: andycanuck at May 14, 2021 09:15 PM (UHVv4)
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Why wooly chaps? Because it gets damn cold on the Prairie in Winter.
Posted by: Romeo13
Snaggiest outer wear on earth.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 14, 2021 09:15 PM (r1z5A)
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I'd love to play piano but I've got that problem where my left hand does whatever my right hand is doing, so I can't make melodies.
Also makes other things awkward.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 09:15 PM (4fSQf)
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And I'm pretty confident I was correct in my skepticism about the thing where some claimed Israeli disinfo deliberately "tricked" Hamas about ground operations.
Israeli forces did what was either "demonstration" at likely entry points to Gaza, or, if/when they do finally go in, was preparation. Artillery, direct fire, entry of obstacle barrier. THIS is what Hamas reacted to, to the extent they did react, in assuming a ground attack was imminent.
One of those reactions is assumed to be sending people into the underground complex known as "the Metro".
All this happened prior to erroneous foreign press reports about a ground invasion. Israeli press got it right, did not misinterpret IDF statements (of which at least one, in English, was ambiguous, as I noted last night minutes after it was posted to the twatters). IDF moved quickly to correct foreign press mistake.
So to the extent deception was used, and contributed to pay-off from massive air strike, it was deceptive demonstration, and actual intense preparation attacks on Hamas positions in the relevant locations - not int'l press reports - that was the instrument.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 09:15 PM (OTzUX)
60What skills do you have that fill you with an artist's pride when you complete the project?
Mowing. Love it when it comes out nice, like it did today.
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 09:16 PM (DMQdU)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2021 09:17 PM (fLVm1)
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Trees are interesting in that they don't grow the way most people think they do. So those "trained" sculpted and grafted trees have to be (heightwise) where you want them at the start.
A horizontal branch never gets any higher off the ground.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 14, 2021 09:17 PM (Rpm7S)
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Little known fact: Phil Collins of Genesis fame owns a shitload of Alamo era artifacts.
Well known fact: Ozzy pissed or ate a bat or did something stupid at the Alamo.
Lesser known fact: I visited a couple of years ago.
Posted by: The Pendejo who shant be named at May 14, 2021 09:18 PM (rCeFu)
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25 Well, the cat's twisted himself into a corkscrew and gone to sleep. Beats me how he can do that.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - White Man: Threat or Menace? Now Sponsored by The Outrage Outlet! at May 14, 2021 09:08 PM (caWeG
Cats are neither solid or liquid. Kinda in the middle.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 09:18 PM (4fSQf)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 14, 2021 09:18 PM (VJFAr)
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Jerry Dunleavy
@JerryDunleavy
NEW: After initially classifying the 2017 shooting at a GOP congressional baseball practice as "suicide by cop" ... the FBI finally admitted in the appendix on page 35 of a new 40-page report it was "domestic terrorism" by a "domestic violent extremist."
FBI quietly admits 2017 GOP baseball shooting was domestic terrorism after all
https://t.co/G6Pb8kPkRE?amp=1
6:41 PM · May 14, 2021
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at May 14, 2021 09:18 PM (FBrfY)
Posted by: tintex at May 14, 2021 09:18 PM (fe8qf)
68Well known fact: Ozzy pissed or ate a bat or did something stupid at the Alamo.
Lesser known fact: I visited a couple of years ago.
Posted by: The Pendejo who shant be named at May 14, 2021 09:18 PM (rCeFu)
He was completely wasted and so his wife took all his clothes so he couldn't go out. So he put on her dress and went out and had to take a piss. He pissed on the wrong building.
Posted by: buzzion at May 14, 2021 09:19 PM (vMCab)
69..I never feel artistic. I don't DO anything artistic. I'm just not a creative person. Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 09:04 PM (s9fsa)
Says she who has raised the practice of serving bacon to become it's own art form. Such grace, such style. Such bacon! *chomp!*
Posted by: Sharkman at May 14, 2021 09:20 PM (Atzlh)
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rhomboid
Either way, I think the IDF should just snicker and mention the helpful media dolts. Painting targets on those scum is only fair since they're busy painting targets on us.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at May 14, 2021 09:20 PM (URpMy)
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so there is a guy that runs a store in my area. He is a real piece of shit. I know we don't like cussing here and i have years that show I don't do it. But this guy is a superlative jerk. I have often tried to chat with him and every time i was wrong to do so, I would feel sorry for the guy if he wasn't a serious *^# He told me the Alamo was about slavery and nothing else. I tried to give him a life line and say it was part of it, that there was nuance there. He proceeded to tell me West Texas had slaves until 1915. He also said all Texans believe in slavery to this day.
He also said Cinco de Mayo was about Mexican independence Day but they got the day wrong. Then he later said it was about Pancho Villa. As a night cap, he said Independence Day was wrong, because the Colonies didn't earn their freedom until Thomas Cromwell signed the surrender. I kept thinking about Animal House, and how this guy was on a roll.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 09:21 PM (x/IHv)
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That piano visualization was Awesome! I'm not a musician beyond guitar hero and that helped me visualize the talent involved to play that piece. COOL
Posted by: Kevin T Horton at May 14, 2021 09:21 PM (BOa7j)
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70 In NCAA softball news, AL defeated TN 6-5 in the SEC semifinal. AL vs FL tomorrow night for the SEC championship.
For those of you missing your MLB fix, this is a pretty good brand of ball.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 14, 2021 09:20 PM (sWM8x)
Rolleth Tideth
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 09:21 PM (4fSQf)
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No go zones in America make me sad overall. That they are all in deep Blue cities makes me apathetic.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 09:22 PM (Ojki1)
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What gives me the greatest sense of pride is to watch a crippled horse walk away sound after I have worked on them
Posted by: Ben Had at May 14, 2021 09:22 PM (rBwYy)
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Well shit, now I'm in suspense! What is this local SFGoth is speaking of? Drug dealer, Bunco group, hippy drum drum circle, hooker, yoga studio?
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at May 14, 2021 09:22 PM (d9Cw3)
81Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 09:21 PM (x/IHv)
At that point I'd be saying something along the lines of him being lucky there isn't anyone else around or else you'd be exposing how stupid he is.
Posted by: buzzion at May 14, 2021 09:23 PM (vMCab)
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this guy is the ultimate example of a know it all who knows nothing. It is probably not worth mentioning but damn, some people are really, really stupid. this guy has a position of authority but he would be an SNL skit if anyone filmed it.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 09:23 PM (x/IHv)
83Well shit, now I'm in suspense! What is this local SFGoth is speaking of? Drug dealer, Bunco group, hippy drum drum circle, hooker, yoga studio?
Posted by: JROD at May 14, 2021 09:22 PM (0jZnq)
Nextdoor is a social media page for your neighborhood. It's a cesspool, as most social media sites are.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 09:24 PM (s9fsa)
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He also said Cinco de Mayo was about Mexican independence Day but they got the day wrong. Then he later said it was about Pancho Villa. As a night cap, he said Independence Day was wrong, because the Colonies didn't earn their freedom until Thomas Cromwell signed the surrender. I kept thinking about Animal House, and how this guy was on a roll.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 09:21 PM (x/IHv)
Mr WDS had his fourth surgery on his foot in less than a year today. This one took 90 minutes so it's taking him longer to recover. Playing nurse, just don't have the uniform
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33 Got an invite to join my local nextdoor. Thoughts?
Posted by: SFGoth at May 14, 2021 09:09 PM (KAi1n)
Treat it as info gathering where you figure out when it all collapses who is worth raiding and who needs to be gone first, while sharing nothing of yourself to become a target.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 09:25 PM (Ojki1)
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What I find interesting about the latest Israeli activity is the complete lack of the usual comments by all the other Arab nations about how if they don't stop the other Arab nations will drive them into the sea. And the complete lack of the stories in the Enemedia about how the Arab countries aren't saying anything. Guess they don't want us realizing that the ME is now Israel and everybody else vs. Biden\Obama's Iranian buddies.
Posted by: azjaeger at May 14, 2021 09:26 PM (3/XaG)
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Posted by: Jim at May 14, 2021 09:20 PM (QzJWU)
Well said Jim. Talent comes in many forms.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Fearless Leaders Have, and Deserve, Special Privileges! at May 14, 2021 09:26 PM (hOUT3)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 14, 2021 09:20 PM
That's an excellent idea.
*pours another bourbon*
Posted by: Bert G at May 14, 2021 09:26 PM (sAW0o)
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At that point I'd be saying something along the
lines of him being lucky there isn't anyone else around or else you'd be
exposing how stupid he is.
Posted by: buzzion at May 14, 2021 09:23 PM (vMCab)
in the end, he is not worth it. There was another employee listening to it all and he was smart enough to keep quiet. My guess is he was wondering who his leader is. i wasn't trying to engage with the guy, quite the opposite. i was trying to get on, but it got worse and worse. It is scary how dumb so many are, it is a real thing, i wish i had not witnessed it.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 09:26 PM (x/IHv)
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Outstanding ONT, Buck!!! Loved Three's Company. I quote it regularly but hardly anyone ever catches the references. Of course, no way a show could survive today with a character like Felipe. "Jes???"
Howdy Hordelings!
Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2021 09:26 PM (mZUr4)
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The labels on the tree pictures make me wonder if we are seeing the fruits of Pookysgirl's hobby.
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What gives me the greatest sense of pride is to watch a crippled horse walk away sound after I have worked on them
Posted by: Ben Had at May 14, 2021 09:22 PM (rBwYy)
* * * *
You are a true blessing to those horses! Awesome!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at May 14, 2021 09:27 PM (rwusL)
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Rolleth Tideth
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 09:21 PM (4fSQf)
Perhaps the best ESPN commercial from days gone by:
https://tinyurl.com/286tybzb
...Roll Tide
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at May 14, 2021 09:27 PM (BgMrQ)
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33 Got an invite to join my local nextdoor. Thoughts?
Posted by: SFGoth at May 14, 2021 09:09 PM (KAi1n)
Honestly - unless I knew the person personally who invited me, I wouldn't join. Social media brings out the worst in most people most of the time. If you want to meet your neighbors, just take a walk outside every day. They'll see you all the time and then feel like saying hi and approaching you (yes, this has become my daily experience)...
Posted by: Nova local at May 14, 2021 09:28 PM (b1h2x)
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ah, wooly chaps, when men were men and sheep were scared...
Posted by: runner at May 14, 2021 09:28 PM (V13WU)
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"Frey says the city is committed to memorializing the legacy of George Floyd at that intersection."
No shit, Sherlock. Given that Floyd was a POS thug, what better way to memorialize him than to make the neighborhood safe for thugs to operate unimpeded?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 14, 2021 09:28 PM (XGBai)
98What gives me the greatest sense of pride is to watch a crippled horse walk away sound after I have worked on them
Posted by: Ben Had at May 14, 2021 09:22 PM (rBwYy)
You have a rare gift!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Your Fearless Leaders Have, and Deserve, Special Privileges! at May 14, 2021 09:28 PM (hOUT3)
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at May 14, 2021 09:20 PM (QzJWU)
Galveston Jim!! Did you stock up on bourbon the other day like you planned?
Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2021 09:28 PM (mZUr4)
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"What skills do you have that fill you with an artist's pride when you complete the project?"
I like building stuff. Most times I try to do a nice job, but there is an art to quick and dirty too. That it's effective for it's purpose is my main objective and if I get that I'm happy.
Posted by: f'd at May 14, 2021 09:29 PM (Tnijr)
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77 Ben Had, turning a lame horse into a sound one, takes a lot of time, love, and encouragement to pull off.
For you, a song about someone doing just that, Both Ends Burning from Richard Thompson (Scottish) from Hands of Kindness album. https://youtu.be/2cDmAgylMfo
His original version of Tear Stained Letter is also on that album and absolutely hilarious. Later, it was covered in the states by a zydeco artist.
I know you are a great nurse to Mr. WDS no matter the uniform! Prayers up for healing and strength for both of you. Give him a "get well soon" hug from me please!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at May 14, 2021 09:29 PM (rwusL)
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I told him Cinco De Mayo was about Mexican troops defeating the French in a single battle. He said no, it wasn't the French. It was the Cromwell and Pancho Villa that got me. Sure the other bs but that was so far out there I cold say nothing. Yeah, he is a real prick. But the next time i engage that jagoff will be never. Life is too short.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 09:30 PM (x/IHv)
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94 Rolleth Tideth
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 09:21 PM (4fSQf)
Perhaps the best ESPN commercial from days gone by:
https://tinyurl.com/286tybzb
...Roll Tide
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at May 14, 2021 09:27 PM (BgMrQ
Roll Tide
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 09:30 PM (4fSQf)
105 I just got a kick in the gut this afternoon. Just the other night I was going on about grandkids selling land, and was getting suspicious something was up.
There was. One of the grandkids has sold 50 acres, their entire share of a large parcel, totaling several hundred acres. They sold it for $3M, which is $60K/acre.
I suspect the others, when they get wind of that windfall may do it as well.
I can't believe the price, but that's what it went for. The plan as I understand it is to build 40 or more houses, as many as they can fit on the smallest lots that can carve out.
I don't even want to think what that would do to traffic around here, and probably even necessitate widening some roads, traffic lights and so forth. The power lines will have to be upgraded as well.
I hate to get into these things, but I'm gonna fight it if possible.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 14, 2021 09:31 PM (Mzdiz)
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With those trees, I can imagine an old Ent wanting to talk to the "tree torturer" for "just a little while".
Posted by: Mikey NTH - White Man: Threat or Menace? Now Sponsored by The Outrage Outlet! at May 14, 2021 09:02 PM (caWeG)
Yeah. Those are creepy. Bet the bastard bonsais pets, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 14, 2021 09:31 PM (XGBai)
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It's like Blade Runner in an arboretum with blueberry muffins.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at May 14, 2021 09:31 PM (g9y46)
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"What skills do you have that fill you with an artist's pride when you complete the project?"
Way back in the day I apprenticed with a master cabinetmaker in Boston for a few years. We made mostly Queen Anne and Chippendale furniture there. I made a few pieces for home that I am very proud of.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2021 09:31 PM (Rvt88)
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That tree-shaping thing is really quite neat. Imagine the patience you
have to have to get it "right." And what do you do if it comes out
wrong? Chop it down and start all over?
Posted by: Lord Squirrel
When I was stationed in Japan for three years, I tried those Bonsai tree things - you know, shaping them and clipping them and what not over many years. I came home after my final cruise after three years in Japan, looked at those little trees, and thought: "what the ever-living fuck have I been doing for these last three years?"
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2021 09:31 PM (w2LAm)
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Being an old fart, and not inclined to deal with asshats, my typical response to stupidity is "go fuck yourself."
Even the Karenwaffe is put out by that.
(plus 10 for using a new word)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 14, 2021 09:32 PM (3H9h1)
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>Yeah, he is a real prick. But the next time i engage that jagoff will be never. Life is too short.
Posted by: Quint
come back with your own nonsense. Like when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor or something
Posted by: DB- just DB at May 14, 2021 09:32 PM (iTXRQ)
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Hey, thanks for the Alamo references. I'm actually a fairly close relation to Jim Bowie (2nd cousin, 6 times removed) and a very, very, very distant relation of Davy Crockett. As a Texan, that's a big deal.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 09:32 PM (BMmaB)
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From out here in the cheap seats, "Memorializing" Mr. Floyd looks a lot to me like making sure certain demographics stay in their lane, keep them locked on the Reservation, as it were. "Soft bigotry of low expectations" doesn't even begin to cover it.
Posted by: Common Tater at May 14, 2021 09:33 PM (Rpm7S)
114
When I was stationed in Japan for three years, I
tried those Bonsai tree things - you know, shaping them and clipping
them and what not over many years. I came home after my final cruise
after three years in Japan, looked at those little trees, and thought:
"what the ever-living fuck have I been doing for these last three
years?"
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2021 09:31 PM (w2LAm Should have stuck to wax on, wax off.
Posted by: Mr. Miyagi at May 14, 2021 09:33 PM (BMmaB)
115
Way back in the day I apprenticed with a master cabinetmaker in Boston for a few years. We made mostly Queen Anne and Chippendale furniture there. I made a few pieces for home that I am very proud of.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2021 09:31 PM (Rvt8
Salute...
I have great respect for those who can do quality cabinetry of that nature.
My youngest has an aptitude for it, I hope he is staying with it...
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at May 14, 2021 09:33 PM (BgMrQ)
116
For most of its run i was to young to know what Three's Company was about. People wearing funny clothes and falling a lot.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 14, 2021 09:34 PM (l6b3d)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 14, 2021 09:34 PM (ybIRR)
118 As I was telling Miley, the old man who originally owned that place and grew cotton and other stuff would've shot his progeny if he knew what would become of it.
He was well before my time, but I knew his three sons as old men as a kid and into my 20s when they started getting really old and dying off. All three of those guys would've disowned their own children had they realized they would do this.
It's likely great-children pushing the old women grandkid to sell out, but I'm not sure. None of them live around here, have not ties, and their eyes are going ka-ching ka-ching.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 14, 2021 09:34 PM (Mzdiz)
I'll say. I would need two brains to even begin performing that. Oh, and talent.
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 09:35 PM (l0Lgi)
123
112 Hey, thanks for the Alamo references. I'm actually a fairly close relation to Jim Bowie (2nd cousin, 6 times removed) and a very, very, very distant relation of Davy Crockett. As a Texan, that's a big deal.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 09:32 PM (BMmaB)
My Mom's side of the family are direct descendants of the Hatfields.
I still don't like Bones from Star Trek
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 14, 2021 09:37 PM (4fSQf)
124
No shit, Sherlock. Given that Floyd was a POS thug,
what better way to memorialize him than to make the neighborhood safe
for thugs to operate unimpeded?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 14, 2021 09:28 PM (XGBai In 2 generations no one is going to remember who George Floyd was or why the square is named after him and they'll put a light rail tack through it and that will be the end of it. They're not building the pyramids.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 09:37 PM (BMmaB)
125
I wish we could click on pics and enlarge them. Such cool stuff my old eyes cayn,'t see!
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 09:37 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by: klaftern at May 14, 2021 09:37 PM (RuIsu)
127And polesucker lifted mask mandate today.......so Mororendevous planning is on!
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 14, 2021 09:34 PM (/UQ/R)
Whooo!!
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 09:38 PM (s9fsa)
128
I assume that lovely specimen standing next to Audie Murphy is a Daughter of the Republic of Texas. I remember seeing the John Wayne "The Alamo" at the Majestic Theater in San Antonio just a few blocks from the Alamo.
Posted by: Oddbob at May 14, 2021 09:38 PM (qc+VF)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 14, 2021 09:38 PM (iTXRQ)
130
There is a funny John Ritter movie that us not well known but it is one of my favorites. "Real Men" with Jim Belushi, it's a buddy spy flick that is a hidden gem.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 14, 2021 09:39 PM (Atzlh)
131
120 And polesucker lifted mask mandate today.......so Mororendevous planning is on!
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May
Jordan and I are all in!!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2021 09:39 PM (U2p+3)
I wonder how long Gauleiter Party Tits of Newyorkistan can hold off removing the mask mandate here, now that the Empress of the Two Peninsulas, (Peninsulae?) Queen of the Frozen Mitten and Yoopland has done so...
Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021 09:39 PM (H+h2h)
133
Hey, thanks for the Alamo references. I'm actually a
fairly close relation to Jim Bowie (2nd cousin, 6 times removed) and a
very, very, very distant relation of Davy Crockett. As a Texan, that's a
big deal.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 09:32 PM (BMmaB)
I have spent a lot of time at Gettysburg. I mean a lot of time. But the time I have spent at The Alamo has been some of the most hallowed. There is something about that place. I mentioned years ago that i could see people reimagining the place. The women who ran the Alamo were hard corps, like the Ladies of Mt. Vernon. But I fear people will try to destroy our history, shit, i know they are doing it. Things have already come up about The Alamo. Too bad because that has always been hallowed ground, a place for remembrance. I predicted it but it was gallows humor. We might need a lot of that.
Posted by: Dino58 at May 14, 2021 09:39 PM (esrIA)
135
In 2 generations no one is going to remember who George Floyd was or why the square is named after him and they'll put a light rail tack through it and that will be the end of it. They're not building the pyramids.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 09:37 PM (BMmaB)
Bet you will still be able to buy Fentanyl at the same corner George did though, probably even from one of his dealer's offspring.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 09:39 PM (Ojki1)
136..Galveston Jim!! Did you stock up on bourbon the other day like you planned? Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2021 09:28 PM (mZUr4)
Yep. Including the last bottle of Tom Sims Bourbon to be found in the Great State of Texas. Details about all the "samplers" and the destination of the Sims, in about a week.
137
Was amazed the first time I saw the Alamo. It was a tiny mission on very few acres, surrounded by downtown San Antonio. To be frank, it looked out of place. But it is not. It is sacred ground, and it spoke to me when I first stepped foot on those hallowed grounds. The mission itself is indeed a shrine, the Shrine to Texas Liberty. Highly recommend a visit if you are in the area.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at May 14, 2021 09:41 PM (rwusL)
138
118 publius, I advise getting a copy of your county's ordinances for development immediately and studying it. I have been advisor to some zoning fights and involved in other zoning fights over development issues and the letter of the code is important as well as state laws and court decisions governing development.
There are other monkey wrenches that can be employed to prevent massive development overnight including damages to waterways, look and feel of neighborhood, sewage issues, and so on. Most states also protect waterways, creeks, etc. due to the Clean Water Act and wetlands development requires permits from the Corp of Engineers. Endangered species can be another issue.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 09:41 PM (pO7gM)
139
ONT Cheers, Horde! ---------------- Cheers to you and bourbon Jim.
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 09:41 PM (+ya+t)
Well thanks a brazilian for that advice.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2021 09:34 PM (Rvt8
At age 24, I should have been stationed in Brazil, not clipping tiny trees in the land of the rising sun. But I took the Navy's money, so they got my young man's youth in return for it.
It might not have been a fair bargain, but its the one I made. I often think, what would have happen had I not made that bargain? But that's a poor day dream...I took the bargain and spent their money knowing full well the cost. I have no right now to second guess the 24 year old Boswell.
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2021 09:43 PM (w2LAm)
141 I'm going to be consulting with some people about it. All my neighbors, at least the ones who've been here all their lives will be opposed to it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 14, 2021 09:43 PM (Mzdiz)
142
My trip to the Alamo was traditional liberty off base from Lackland AFB basic training just before shipping out. As others have observed, it is a small remnant of an originally larger compound but very important history wise and culture wise which the left is trying to destroy just like the Taliban did in Afghanistan.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 09:43 PM (pO7gM)
143
Bet you will still be able to buy Fentanyl at the
same corner George did though, probably even from one of his dealer's
offspring.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 09:39 PM (Ojki1)
LOL. Somewhat OT, but I hope when they start naming Barack Obama Boulevards they go right through smug white liberal neighborhoods and the Michelle Obama Elementary School is where the smug white liberal kids go. Named the worst road in town after MLK has been a terrible civic practice, IMO. It does make it easier to know where to score drugs in a strange town, though (h/t Chris Rock).
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 09:43 PM (BMmaB)
Posted by: Throck "Miklos" Buckmorton at May 14, 2021 09:43 PM (QzkSJ)
145
Got an email today from Ticketmaster. I have tix for Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Poison, and Joan Jett. Was originally supposed to be July 2020. Got moved to July 2021. Now it's July 2022. Sucks!
Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2021 09:44 PM (mZUr4)
146
Ya know, Buck, when you first started posting I called you Bawk Thrustmutton or some such, and I'd like to apologize for that now that you've proven yourself to be a more than capable COB and not just a flash in the pants.
Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at May 14, 2021 09:44 PM (hVqGz)
148
Totally agree with 2004 Alamo, loved it when it came ou and still top 5 of my favorite movies. Billy Bob killled it as Crockett, guy who played Bowie too. Movie was historically accurate down to the snowstorm the Mexicans were caught in.
Posted by: Mose at May 14, 2021 09:45 PM (hgzJ9)
149
>>>What skills do you have that fill you with an artist's pride when you complete the project?"
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I mow (stripe) my HS baseball field in a way that could match some minor league fields for designs. Cardinal's and Red Sox fields though are on a whole different level. Having their budget helps too, though.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs: Now fortified with Remdemsivir at May 14, 2021 09:45 PM (deb91)
150 Tonight's overnight thread has been brought to you by Wooly Chaps.
Holy. Cow. Book Thread pants.
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 09:45 PM (l0Lgi)
151
Cheers to you and bourbon Jim.
Posted by: dartist
I would love to be generally know as "Bourbon Jim". Although "Whiskey Miklos" has a certain mellifluosity.
Posted by: Long time Miklos from East of the Rockies at May 14, 2021 09:45 PM (QzkSJ)
152
Corporal Klinger has a dress, one for every Korean he killed.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 14, 2021 09:46 PM (ybIRR)
153
Yo Miklos! Did you go on that road trip yet? If not, anothet album for you to add...
The Cult - Love
Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2021 09:46 PM (mZUr4)
154
There are other monkey wrenches that can be employed to prevent massive development overnight including damages to waterways, look and feel of neighborhood, sewage issues, and so on. Most states also protect waterways, creeks, etc. due to the Clean Water Act and wetlands development requires permits from the Corp of Engineers. Endangered species can be another issue.
Posted by: whig
This is undoubtedly true. And, it's always sad to see the grands or greatgrands sell off the farm BUT, isn't this what we expound on daily here? That is, the freedom to do what one chooses, within reason? By extension, don't we, as a group, want that freedom to extend to do whatever we wish our, legally owned property?
Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2021 09:46 PM (Rvt88)
155
Alamo fact: Phil Collins donated his entire Alamo collection TO The Daughters of the Republic of Texas, caretakers of The Alamo. About a year ago, ish.
156
141 publius, if I can be of generic help not dependent on location, ask. Currently involved in two zoning fights right now at the local level and developers in my area dominate the Chamber of Commerce which in turn dominates county politics. It is always like making water run uphill in these fights because of that.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 09:47 PM (pO7gM)
157
Tonight's overnight thread has been brought to you by Wooly Chaps.
Holy. Cow. Book Thread pants.
Posted by: t-bird
I bet the guy owns a weedwhacker (if you catch my drift....)
Posted by: Muldoon at May 14, 2021 09:47 PM (Fc5rx)
159
Was amazed the first time I saw the Alamo. It was a tiny mission on very
few acres, surrounded by downtown San Antonio. To be frank, it looked
out of place. But it is not. It is sacred ground, and it spoke to me
when I first stepped foot on those hallowed grounds. The mission itself
is indeed a shrine, the Shrine to Texas Liberty. Highly recommend a
visit if you are in the area. ------------------- That happened to me at the Little Big Horn museum. At the time mostly open grassland but you could feel those guys there.
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 09:47 PM (+ya+t)
160Got an email today from Ticketmaster. I have tix for Motley Crue, Def Leppard, Poison, and Joan Jett. Was originally supposed to be July 2020. Got moved to July 2021. Now it's July 2022. Sucks!
Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2021 09:44 PM (mZUr4)
Def Leppard puts on a great show.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 09:47 PM (s9fsa)
161
I mow (stripe) my HS baseball field in a way that
could match some minor league fields for designs. Cardinal's and Red
Sox fields though are on a whole different level. Having their budget
helps too, though.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs: Now fortified with Remdemsivir at May 14, 2021 09:45 PM (deb91 I thought about doing that in the back yard last weekend. Settled for the conventional spiral around the edges into the center. But I thought about it -- that ought to count for something.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 09:48 PM (BMmaB)
162
We used to live on this old timer's place. If you've ever driven HWy 14 through the Gorge, it's the pullout east of Washougal, called Cape Horn. They put it all under a family corporation. There are about 50 members. No one can sell any part of it unless they all agreed. State of WA would just love to get their hands on it.
165
I joined nextdoor several years ago. I dont recall offhand ever getting anything useful from it. It is mostly what is that siren for?, does anyone know this guy that took my mail?, people are driving too fast on my street, and dont walk your dogs without a leash.
Posted by: Dreamy James Comey 811 call before you dig at May 14, 2021 09:49 PM (P69fT)
168
Yep. Including the last bottle of Tom Sims Bourbon to be found in the Great State of Texas. Details about all the "samplers" and the destination of the Sims, in about a week.
Jim
*Miklos engages in the venal Sin of Envy*
Posted by: Miklos "Jimmy" Swaggart at May 14, 2021 09:49 PM (QzkSJ)
169Cato: Cucks Delendo Est Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2021 09:17 PM (fLVm1)
Cato is the only libertarian thinktank that favors government intervention in the economy, but their attitude on sweatshops is not bad.
The modern lib despairs at all those things that poor people are forced to do out of economic necessity, so instead of trying to alleviate the problem, they seek to ban the things they find icky.
Too bad there are no more jobs outside of prostitution and working brutally heavy work for scraps on a hardscrabble farm. Oh, and traditional crafts like weaving and sewing in home conditions that are far worse than any sweatshop.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2021 09:50 PM (u0j5n)
170
Miklos
Not far from me here is, Whiskey Dick Wildlife Area, centered on Whiskey Dick creek below Whiskey Dick Mountain.
Whiskey Dick is locally famed as a moonshiner who shipped his product via the Columbia River, before it became a lake.
When the state acquired the area they burned down all the homesteads and buildings so as to not have, "Attractive nuisances".
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at May 14, 2021 09:50 PM (URpMy)
Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021 09:50 PM (H+h2h)
175I would love to be generally know as "Bourbon Jim". Although "Whiskey Miklos" has a certain mellifluosity.
Posted by: Long time Miklos from East of the Rockies at May 14, 2021 09:45 PM (QzkSJ)
I want a whiskey related nickname too!
Doof Rye? Mashbill Doof? 101 Proof Doof?
Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2021 09:51 PM (mZUr4)
176 George Floyd is the Horst Wessel of the Woke movement.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2021 09:52 PM (mht8P)
177
154 TonyPete, people have the right to sell but not to incur costs on people living in the area. Most of the property is bought to redevelop and requires rezoning to do so which often causes runoff, flooding, and a whole host of other issues with it. These damage the surrounding neighbors without compensation. In addition, the lack of development fees paid by developers to local governments usually causes the increase in school taxes, sewage, trash, etc. on the people already there.
Developing brownfields of abandoned shopping plazas, malls, industrial sites, etc. are preferable to just sticking massive developments in the sticks. But, since commercial land is more expensive than farmland, developers make money by buying low and selling high and incidentally buying local politicians.
181 but I hope when they start naming Barack Obama Boulevards they go right through smug white liberal neighborhoods
I nominate Folsom Street in SF.
Posted by: t-bird at May 14, 2021 09:52 PM (CTJwJ)
182
@83 Jordan61- Oh hell, ok I know what that is. Thanks. Nextdoor.
I don't pay attention to any of that around me. I live on 10 acres and its gated. You F around here you get shot. We have a back-hoe and we'll just bury your carcass.
Posted by: kbdabear at May 14, 2021 09:53 PM (qAR6u)
184
ost states also protect waterways, creeks, etc. due to the Clean Water Act and wetlands development requires permits from the Corp of Engineers. Endangered species can be another issue.
Posted by: whig
The EPA is an executive branch agency designed to crowbar property rights from citizens - its executive rules should have been nullified by the 10th amendment long ago but SCOTUS has not been collared to its original charter since Marbury so, free to be something no founder envisioned, SCOTUS has become a cancer to the Republic.
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2021 09:53 PM (w2LAm)
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 09:54 PM (+ya+t)
188
Yeah, MASH aged like milk. I think the Henry Blake years are still watchable though.
Posted by: Darth Randall at May 14, 2021 09:55 PM (8e6gJ)
189
Speaking of brave men and the Alamo...here is the most decorated soldier of WWII standing in front of the Alamo. I see him! And such a nice print dress he has too! Who's that guy standing by the flowers?
Posted by: The Fabulous New US Army at May 14, 2021 09:55 PM (7bRMQ)
190
when you first started posting I called you Bawk Thrustmutton
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 09:44 PM (arJlL)
From now on I will always think of him as Buck Thrustmutton.
It's just too perfect.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 14, 2021 09:57 PM (a4EWo)
194
xxI wonder how long Gauleiter Party Titsxx of
Newyorkistan can hold off removing the mask mandate here, now that the
Empress of the Two Peninsulas, (Peninsulae?) Queen of the Frozen Mitten
and Yoopland has done so... Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021 09:39 PM (H+h2h)
got an email today reminding everyone that even though the CDC and Governor Brown (dominatrix of Oregon) has said that fully vaccinated people don't have to wear a mask, all masking and social distancing rules stay in effect until the Governor's office makes up new guidelines.
. . . And I was thinking, "isn't this the messaging that caused the Berlin wall to be torn down?"
Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2021 09:57 PM (u0j5n)
195
Yeah, MASH aged like milk. I think the Henry Blake years are still watchable though.
Posted by: Darth Randall
Yep; when they turned it into the Alan Alda show, it sucked.
196
I don't know how artistic it is, but I built a replica of this chair from the Governor's Mansion of New Mexico circa 1870's or so. Did the chip carving and basket weave detailing by hand. Also made a matching chest.footlocker with similar carving techniques. .
This is the original chair, not the one I built.
https://tinyurl.com/NM-Governors-chair
Posted by: Muldoon at May 14, 2021 09:57 PM (Fc5rx)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2021 09:57 PM (/40/U)
198
Did you go on that road trip yet? If not, anothet album for you to add...
The Cult - Love
Posted by: Doof
Work in Progress, amigo!
Several road trips are in the planning stages...
Posted by: Miklos, who even got gasoline today at May 14, 2021 09:57 PM (QzkSJ)
199
I heerd the the Chicago cops won't go anywhere near 83rd and Minneapolis.
And all of Minneapolis, just generally.
Posted by: Colossus of Ben Rhodes at May 14, 2021 09:58 PM (doAIC)
200
Even Governor "Lockdown" Larry Hogan is lifting the indoor mask mandate here in Maryland effective tomorrow.
Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2021 09:58 PM (mZUr4)
201 Downstairs AC unit is fixed. The disconnect switch had failed, so the tech took 15 minutes to swap it out. He was punctual, friendly and professional; I let his office know about it.
Still trembling in terror at the prospect of doing my taxes.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2021 09:59 PM (mht8P)
202
This is the original chair, not the one I built.
Posted by: Miklos, working another kind of wood at May 14, 2021 09:59 PM (QzkSJ)
203
184, Boswell, I disagree about the Clean Water Act and some of the EPA's jurisdiction. Far too many industries treated the US and its waters as well as the air as dumping grounds for far too long including state and local governments. Mining industries often left dangerous tailings to get into drinking water and so on.
While it can go too far, the navigable streams regulation power was given to Congress by the original Constitution way back in 1787 under Article I, Section 8. Almost all zoning laws are under the police powers reserved for states, not federal.The real story is that we have reforested, cleaned the air up significantly, and cleaned up the water from what it was in the 1960's and 1970's.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 09:59 PM (pO7gM)
204
George Floyd is the Horst Wessel of the Woke movement.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2021 09:52 PM The musical talents of today's youth are probably not sufficient to come up with a song appropriately singable en masse.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 09:59 PM (BMmaB)
205
The hands of a surgeon, he has....
Posted by: Miklos
Tree surgeon
Posted by: Miklos, working another kind of wood at May 14, 2021 09:59 PM (QzkSJ)
206
Developing brownfields of abandoned shopping plazas, malls, industrial sites, etc. are preferable to just sticking massive developments in the sticks. But, since commercial land is more expensive than farmland, developers make money by buying low and selling high and incidentally buying local politicians.
Posted by: whig at May 14, 2021 09:52 PM (pO7gM)
Neither is any better, b/c neither was planned to be residential. One continues to overwhelm city resources which are already overwhelmed, and one starts the overwhelming of rural ones...
As for a fight or not fight, fight on the merits. If you have a developer who is breaking the codes originally planned for the community, fight on that. But if it was originally allowed for 40 houses and only 1 ever got built, be thankful for all the years you had with the peace and quiet...
Posted by: Nova local at May 14, 2021 09:59 PM (b1h2x)
207
I don't know how artistic it is, but I built a replica of this chair from the Governor's Mansion of New Mexico circa 1870's or so. Did the chip carving and basket weave detailing by hand. Also made a matching chest.footlocker with similar carving techniques. .
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 14, 2021 10:00 PM (CjFDo)
209
Yeah, MASH aged like milk. I think the Henry Blake years are still watchable though.
Posted by: Darth Randall at May 14, 2021 09:55 PM (8e6gJ)
it was a different time. Some of those guys meant well. i think Jamie Farr and the guy that played Winchester later went out of their way to salute the troops. But yeah, the entire show was about crapping on America. Kind of weird there because it was a UN mission.
The two movies that truly burn my craw are Platoon and Full Metal Jacket. I know a lot of people like them for various reasons, it is not as if Hollyweird gives us much to go by. But after repeated viewings. my hatred for Platoon and FMJ continues to grow. I live R. Lee Ermey, but FMJ in particular is a movie I think sucks ass and will always suck ass.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:01 PM (x/IHv)
210
MASH went south as soon as the started having 'A Very Special Episode of' all the time (or maybe as soon as you had the first one.) They did not call them that, but they started trying to take on serious themes or issues. It was ham fisted and clunky as hell and is probably even more cringeworthy today than it was back when.
Oddly, I think Star Trek actually handled social issues better than pretty much anything I have seen. The outlandish nature of the show allowed them to actually try to address things with a bit of actual grace and skill. You may not agree with them always, but it was slightly better done.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2021 10:01 PM (lmikk)
211
CBD, believe it or not, my "action name" in my younger days was Buck Thruster.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:02 PM (BMmaB)
212
Got an invite to join my local nextdoor. Thoughts?
Posted by: SFGoth
Follow missing cat posts with coyote sightings
Posted by: Jean at May 14, 2021 10:03 PM (Xih1H)
213
I don't know how artistic it is, but I built a replica of this chair
from the Governor's Mansion of New Mexico circa 1870's or so. Did the
chip carving and basket weave detailing by hand. Also made a matching
chest.footlocker with similar carving techniques. .
This is the original chair, not the one I built.
https://tinyurl.com/NM-Governors-chair
Posted by: Muldoon ....... Nice looking.. don't look all that comfy...
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 14, 2021 10:03 PM (CjFDo)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2021 10:04 PM (/40/U)
217
This is the original chair, not the one I built.
https://tinyurl.com/NM-Governors-chair----------- Really nice chair,. Went to Taos to chase down Nicolai Fechen back in the day.
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 10:04 PM (+ya+t)
218
I'm glad I'm not the only one that finds M. A. S. H. corny.
Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2021 10:04 PM (Eicbe)
219
Sturdy looking; I bet it would hold Tank Abrams !
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 09:59 PM (arJlL)
All it needs is leather straps and electrodes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 14, 2021 10:04 PM (gbFUY)
220
I don't know how artistic it is, but I built a replica of this chair from the Governor's Mansion of New Mexico circa 1870's or so.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 14, 2021 09:57 PM (Fc5rx)
* * * *
If you built a replica of that chair, and a chest footlocker, I would say that's a fine piece of work, Muldoon! You should be proud!
Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at May 14, 2021 10:04 PM (rwusL)
221207 Sturdy looking; I bet it would hold Tank Abrams !
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 09:59 PM (arJlL)
Wow, that must be some chair. It's amazing what they're doing with engineered house support beams these days.
Posted by: Splunge at May 14, 2021 10:04 PM (RzGcW)
222
OK I have an appliance issue - what does one do to "restart" a refridgerator?
I was using the Vita-Mix and it wouldn't start for a second - then I moved the plug to a new outlet. It worked fine. But the refridgerator lights were out when I got something out.
I did check the fuse box - nothing was blown. Do I need to flick them all? would that do anything useful??
Several road trips are in the planning stages...
Posted by: Miklos, who even got gasoline today at May 14, 2021 09:57 PM (QzkSJ)
OK -- gonna throw something out that's a bit obscure. Band out of Detroit called The Rhythm Corps. Debut album "Common Ground". They had a minor hit in the late 80s with a song of the same name.
Best comparison I can draw to them is The Alarm.
Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2021 10:05 PM (mZUr4)
225 What skills do you have that fill you with an artist's pride when you complete the project?
___________
I'm notable for being completely and totally incompetent at everything I touch. However, I'd like to think I've brought the Hordians who requested them some pleasure at the classical music playlists, the craftsmanship in whose creation I can take some pride.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2021 10:05 PM (mht8P)
226
Mr WDS had his fourth surgery on his foot in less than a year today. This one took 90 minutes so it's taking him longer to recover. Playing nurse, just don't have the uniform
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 14, 2021 09:25
Hope all is going well for his recovery. And best wishes for good relations during recovery, can be a stressful time. Both Jules and I have been there done that.
Stresses out a relationship sometimes, but we laugh about it a lot , brings you closer actually.
Posted by: Farmer at May 14, 2021 10:05 PM (55Qr6)
227
@Quint, there are two good moments in Platoon and FMJ. The first firefight, where Willem Dafoe's character flanks the VC position, is about as realistic as anything I've seen on film, because Stone filmed it from 6 inches off the ground, which is where you actually observe combat. In FMJ, the firefight in Hue where the sniper is holding up the platoon is also well done. (A little OT, but Kubrick also did the little firefight where the air force base was being recaptured pretty realistically).
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:05 PM (BMmaB)
228
I learned to use a spinning wheel several years ago but recently have tried learning to weave. So far just a few dish towels.
Posted by: Lirio100 at May 14, 2021 10:06 PM (uFOGo)
A drunk Splunge on a caffeine high with a sharp razor would be terrifying.
Posted by: Miklos, Burning Times Party Animal at May 14, 2021 10:06 PM (QzkSJ)
230
A little OT, but Kubrick also did the little firefight where the air force base was being recaptured pretty realistically) -- should have mentioned in Dr. Strangelove.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:07 PM (BMmaB)
231I did check the fuse box - nothing was blown. Do I need to flick them all? would that do anything useful??
Who do I call for something like this?
Posted by: Iris at May 14, 2021 10:04 PM (6lKe4)
Do you have a ground fault interrupter on the plug in? It would be red button on the face plate.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2021 10:08 PM (u0j5n)
232 I'm glad I'm not the only one that finds M. A. S. H. corny.
Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2021 10:04 PM (Eicbe)
there were good episodes. I you were of a certain age, it was the only thing on and the first in syndication. But it was always anti American. We all went along, as Hollyweird has its power. I recall a korean American student in a school newspaper trashing MASH. Her argument is the show made Korea look poor and backwards. Sure it was decades ago, but she had a point. They are not poor today.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:08 PM (x/IHv)
233
I did check the fuse box - nothing was blown. Do I need to flick them all? would that do anything useful??
Who do I call for something like this?
Posted by: Iris
Flip the circuit breaker off and then on for circuit that the fridge is on. Sometimes they will be flipped off but it doesn't look like it.
Posted by: Tonypete at May 14, 2021 10:08 PM (Rvt88)
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at May 14, 2021 10:08 PM (sJHOI)
235
I did check the fuse box - nothing was blown. Do I need to flick them all? would that do anything useful??
Who do I call for something like this?
Posted by: Iris at May 14, 2021 10:04 PM (6lKe4)
Iris, look closely at the row of breakers, and see if perhaps one is just a tiny bit out of register with the rest of the row. Not all breakers jump all the way to the "off" position when they trip.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 14, 2021 10:08 PM (gbFUY)
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 10:09 PM (+ya+t)
239
there were good episodes. I you were of a certain
age, it was the only thing on and the first in syndication. But it was
always anti American. We all went along, as Hollyweird has its power. I
recall a korean American student in a school newspaper trashing MASH.
Her argument is the show made Korea look poor and backwards. Sure it was
decades ago, but she had a point. They are not poor today.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:08 PM (x/IHv) Everyone knew the movie was really about Vietnam anyway. Not so much the TV show -- they kind of lost the antiwar edge and settled for fuzzy-headed peacenic sensibility.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:10 PM (BMmaB)
240
222 OK I have an appliance issue - what does one do to "restart" a refridgerator?
I was using the Vita-Mix and it wouldn't start for a second - then I moved the plug to a new outlet. It worked fine. But the refridgerator lights were out when I got something out.
I did check the fuse box - nothing was blown. Do I need to flick them all? would that do anything useful??
Who do I call for something like this?
Posted by: Iris at May 14, 2021 10:04 PM (6lKe4)
If it's still cooling (aka motor still running), the bulb may just be burned out - you could change it and see.
Posted by: Nova local at May 14, 2021 10:10 PM (b1h2x)
241
Ok, lets get fucked up!
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 10:09 PM (+ya+t)
Way ahead of ya.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2021 10:10 PM (/40/U)
242
238 Ok, lets get fucked up!
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 10:09 PM (+ya+t)
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RIVVID!
Posted by: Gabby Johnson at May 14, 2021 10:10 PM (fLVm1)
243
Still trembling in terror at the prospect of doing my taxes.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2021 09:59 PM (mht8P)
* * * *
TurboTax gets me through tax season. Don't know what I would do without it, especially since the accountants all use that program, and I have a business that has to have its taxes prepared as well.
Posted by: Legally Sufficient, Believing in America at May 14, 2021 10:10 PM (rwusL)
244
My first conscious memory of Casey Stengel was when he was the manager of the first Mets teams,and he was portrayed in the sports pages as somewhat of a buffoon.
I was astounded to later learn that he was the Yankee manager of SEVERAL WS champs !
His detractors claimed that ANYBODY could win with the talent they had, but it took a shrewd mind to manage those egos.
245 A drunk Splunge on a caffeine high with a sharp razor would be terrifying.
Posted by: Miklos, Burning Times Party Animal at May 14, 2021 10:06 PM (QzkSJ)
Why do you hate Tuesdays?
Posted by: Splunge at May 14, 2021 10:11 PM (RzGcW)
246
Got an invite to join my local nextdoor. Thoughts?
Join. It's a good idea to know what the local nuts are saying in realtime, and a way to find some (possibly) kindred spirits, based on who/what gets treated how
Posted by: barbarausa at May 14, 2021 10:12 PM (W7IZQ)
247
Who do I call for something like this? ------------------- I hope it's not a Samsung.
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 10:12 PM (+ya+t)
248
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:05 PM (BMmaB)
Platoon was incredibly well made. The R. Lee. Ermey scences in FMJ were great too. i was in basic when that move came out. My Army Drill Sergeants said "FMJ made Platoon into a pussy movie", that was a direct quote.
After repeated viewings, i have decided both films are severely overrated. They both crap on America at every turn and never show example of why people were there. Like i said, we accept what we get because of Hollyweird. I don't criticize those that like the films, but i do question the point they were making. Sure it was one side, but they pretend that was the only side. I know for a fact they were wrong.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:13 PM (x/IHv)
249
Sturdy looking; I bet it would hold Tank Abrams !
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 09:59 PM (arJlL)
All it needs is leather straps and electrodes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
250
I am still learning calligraphy. Actually I am just learning Palmer, Spencerian and Copper Plate hands. I am trying to learn how to cut a feather into a quill And I have been hand twisting fiber into ropes, which is sort of fun.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2021 10:13 PM (u0j5n)
251
Her argument is the show made Korea look poor and
backwards. Sure it was decades ago, but she had a point. They are not
poor today.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:08 PM (x/IHv I served in Korea in the 80's. Seoul was in every way a modern city. 20 miles outside of Seoul you were living in a feudal system. I saw things that appalled me -- the landowner's wife counting cadence, leading a row of the tenant farmers' wives planting rice; people living in open stables; rat heads in the ashes of cooking fires.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:13 PM (BMmaB)
There was an "artist" of the type that New Orleans seems to create or attract.
He specialized in car art.
One old Cadillac he sprayed with adhesive, dirt, and chia seeds. Except for the glass, the whole car was covered in chia. I saw it parked more often than driven, but he drove it too.
Posted by: Miklos would call that guy a Chia Chap at May 14, 2021 10:14 PM (QzkSJ)
253 My first conscious memory of Casey Stengel was when he was the manager of the first Mets teams,and he was portrayed in the sports pages as somewhat of a buffoon.
__________
Warren Spahn, who played for the Mets just before retiring, said, "I pitched for Casey before and after he was a genius."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 14, 2021 10:14 PM (mht8P)
258
Went to Taos to chase down Nicolai Fechen back in the day.
Posted by: dartist
****
We. used to stay at the Fechen Inn on occasion when we traveled between TX and CO. Really cool place. We incorporated some of the wood motifs from there into our bathroom vanity (done by a pro, not me)
Posted by: Muldoon at May 14, 2021 10:15 PM (Fc5rx)
259
Next door is good for lost pets, local recommendations, and selling stuff. Stay away from politics, hot button topics, and people calling others out. I quit after the election, it got way too ugly and lefty.
Posted by: lin-duh 27-4 at May 14, 2021 10:15 PM (UUBmN)
Posted by: Sir Bob Miklos-Geldof with the one semi-hit at May 14, 2021 10:15 PM (QzkSJ)
261
Warren Spahn, who played for the Mets just before retiring, said, "I pitched for Casey before and after he was a genius."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
264
At the beach for sunset.
Tons of families. My end of the beach, mostly non native english speaking. Lots of North Africans and Somalis. Some beach fires. Lots of laughter.
The salty, seaweedy smell of the water on an incoming tide is comforting to me. As is the sound of the waves creeping in on the log I'm perched on.
Not much for beach Jewells (beach glass) this trip. Just a few clear pieces. None of the prized blue or red ones.
It's chilling down fast as the sun sets behind the Olympic Mountains.
I love the Pacific Northwest.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2021 10:17 PM (ALf1x)
265
Leyland had shitloads of talent and won not a damn thing as Pirates manager.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2021 10:17 PM (/40/U)
Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021 10:19 PM (H+h2h)
270
Nurse
That's a beautiful picture you painted with words.
It sounds lovely.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at May 14, 2021 10:20 PM (URpMy)
271
nurse ratched!! One of my fellow Justified loving Hordelings! How are you?
Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2021 10:20 PM (mZUr4)
272
R. Lee Ermy in FMJ was pretty close to being exactly like basic training at Fort Polk in 1973, and maybe a little light in places.
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 10:19 PM (+ya+t)
Oscar material.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 14, 2021 10:20 PM (/40/U)
Posted by: Miklos, pointing out that Stepin Fetchit (Lincoln Theodore Monroe Andrew Perry) was the 1st black mi at May 14, 2021 10:21 PM (QzkSJ)
278I have spent a lot of time at Gettysburg. I mean a lot of time. But the time I have spent at The Alamo has been some of the most hallowed.
I spent two days wandering the Verdun battlefields.
No real family connection, my French grandmother headed for the docks to get to the US as soon as the Germans started into Belgium (she met her Belgian soon-to-be-husband aboard ship...)
But an amazing place nonetheless.
Funny...my relatives in various directions came from Canada, Ireland, Belgium, France, China by way of Hong Kong, etc. none here before 1880 but I still know *my* history, the US history extending back, only extensively to the French-Indian War - and just about all of the others as well.
Posted by: JEM at May 14, 2021 10:22 PM (8erNz)
279
Everyone knew the movie was really about Vietnam
anyway. Not so much the TV show -- they kind of lost the antiwar edge
and settled for fuzzy-headed peacenic sensibility.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:10 PM (BMmaB)
anti Vietnam for sure. Someone who would know once mentioned that none of that would have flown in Korea. The first time some officer tried to crap on superiors, they would have been gone. So no doubt it was about Vietnam.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:22 PM (x/IHv)
280
Oliver Stone is an excellent director. I think he's a whacko, but excellent director.
Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2021 10:23 PM (Eicbe)
281
Do you know why Santa Anna only brought 5000 troops to the Alamo? He only had 2 pickups
Posted by: Mose at May 14, 2021 10:21 PM (hgzJ9 LOL. But you know what disappeared from the news pretty fast? That accident in Mexicali where there were like 25 Mexicans in a van that hit a gravel truck. Guess it didn't fit the narrative.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:23 PM (BMmaB)
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2021 10:23 PM (ALf1x)
283
We. used to stay at the Fechen Inn on occasion when we traveled between
TX and CO. Really cool place. We incorporated some of the wood motifs
from there into our bathroom vanity (done by a pro, not me) ----------- Jeez I would love to see that place. He had a style of painting I chased for many years.
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 10:24 PM (+ya+t)
Posted by: Muldoon at May 14, 2021 10:24 PM (Fc5rx)
285
I served in Korea in the 80's. Seoul was in every
way a modern city. 20 miles outside of Seoul you were living in a feudal
system. I saw things that appalled me -- the landowner's wife counting
cadence, leading a row of the tenant farmers' wives planting rice;
people living in open stables; rat heads in the ashes of cooking fires.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:13 PM (BMmaB)
I agree. i remember this girl's writing in the newspaper because it was interesting. For sure you can't take a modern take and deny history. Korea was F'ed up. She was pissed because of the show. You can't change history simply because you don't like it.
I'd read the actor who played Jar Jar Binks in the Star Wars franchise considered suicide when his character was described as a "Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit"...
Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021 10:25 PM (H+h2h)
Posted by: Splunge at May 14, 2021 10:03 PM (RzGcW)
Hell yes it is.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 10:27 PM (s9fsa)
288Doof!
I'm wonderful tonight.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2021 10:23 PM (ALf1x)
Glad to hear it! I too enjoyed the way you described the beach scene earlier.
Posted by: Doof at May 14, 2021 10:28 PM (mZUr4)
289LOL. But you know what disappeared from the news pretty fast? That accident in Mexicali where there were like 25 Mexicans in a van that hit a gravel truck. Guess it didn't fit the narrative.
They were in a Ford Expedition. The small-big SUV. Figure out how to get 25 illegals into one of those. I guess like bundles of roofing felt from Home Depot.
For some reason I thought it was in Texas, but you're right:
291 Tons of families. My end of the beach, mostly non native english speaking. Lots of North Africans and Somalis. Some beach fires. Lots of laughter.
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There are Somalis and North Africans living on alki ?
Posted by: LASue at May 14, 2021 10:28 PM (Ed8Zd)
292..I'd read the actor who played Jar Jar Binks in the Star Wars franchise considered suicide when his character was described as a "Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit"..Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021 10:25 PM (H+h2h)
293
I'd read the actor who played Jar Jar Binks in the Star Wars franchise considered suicide when his character was described as a "Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit"...
Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021 10:25 PM (H+h2h)
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The tragedy when a driver fails to use his virtue signal.
Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2021 10:29 PM (Eicbe)
294Figure out how to get 25 illegals into one of those.
*****
Alternate breathing schedule is the key
Posted by: Muldoon at May 14, 2021 10:29 PM (Fc5rx)
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 10:30 PM (+ya+t)
296
Oliver Stone is an excellent director. I think he's a whacko, but excellent director.
Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2021 10:23 PM (Eicbe)
he pissed on Vietnam Vets and at the end of his movie he said he dedicated it to them. He tried to make Wall Street types into villains but everyone quoted Gordon Gekko. At the end, he said he was dedicating it to Wall Street Trader's like his dad. I won't even mention his Nixon or Alexander. The man has talent, but talent can be warped.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:30 PM (x/IHv)
297
There are Somalis and North Africans living on alki ?
Posted by: LASue
Legally only on Tribal Land.
Posted by: Miklos, heir to many if not much at May 14, 2021 10:30 PM (QzkSJ)
298All right, all right, JEEPERS !
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 10:28 PM (arJlL)
Sorry. But I was lucky enough to score some of Splunge's coffee. It's good stuff.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 10:30 PM (s9fsa)
299
I'd read the actor who played Jar Jar Binks in the Star Wars franchise considered suicide when his character was described as a "Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit"..Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021
300294 Figure out how to get 25 illegals into one of those.
*****
Alternate breathing schedule is the key
Imagine hard braking bringing two tons of squirming wetware aggressively forward, soon to be pulped. Not a pleasant thought.
Posted by: JEM at May 14, 2021 10:32 PM (8erNz)
301
If you write a good story, people will not describe it as politically correct or politically incorrect. No one will ever call Breaking Bad "problematic".
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 14, 2021 10:32 PM (ybIRR)
304
Figure out how to get 25 illegals into one of those.
*****
Alternate breathing schedule is the key
Posted by: Muldoon at May 14, 2021 10:29 PM (Fc5rx)
For some reason that reminded me of the famous Reggie White sermon that has completely disappeared from the interwebz. His point was that we all have something to contribute and God loves us all, but he was preaching about how the Asian people are so good at math and the white people are good at business and the Spanish people have a lot of love and they can get so many people into a house and the black people have music, etc.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:33 PM (BMmaB)
305
Don Lemon just announced that tonight will be his last show on CNN:
Posted by: weft cut-loop
306
299 I'd read the actor who played Jar Jar Binks in the Star Wars franchise considered suicide when his character was described as a "Rastafarian Stepin Fetchit"..Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021
Not everybody can be the next Cary Grant.
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 10:31 PM (arJlL)
You know, we were horrified when Lucas (after Empire) seemed to turn the focus to trying to draw in kids and sell toys. Aside from the creepy possibility, is that worse than whatever it is Disney is trying to do?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2021 10:33 PM (lmikk)
307
Warren Spahn, who played for the Mets just before retiring, said, "I pitched for Casey before and after he was a genius."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Reminds me of the comment by Oscar Levant about Doris Day: "I knew her before she was a virgin."
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2021 10:34 PM (w2LAm)
308
Nurse, the two lamps in my bedroom are filled with sea glass collected over the course of a lifetime.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 14, 2021 10:35 PM (a4EWo)
309
Funny...my relatives in various directions came from
Canada, Ireland, Belgium, France, China by way of Hong Kong, etc. none
here before 1880 but I still know *my* history, the US history extending
back, only extensively to the French-Indian War - and just about all of
the others as well.
Posted by: JEM at May 14, 2021 10:22 PM (8erNz)
i personally prefer people who love history for history's sake. If it always has to come back to a personal blood relative, I think it loses a lot of meaning.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:35 PM (x/IHv)
310
LASue,
I dunno if they live in the neighborhood or not. But they bring their kids here often enough for me to strike up snippets of conversation. The adults are shy. But the kids are friendly and smile those gorgeous white toothed grins from the darkest of brown faces.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 14, 2021 10:35 PM (U2p+3)
311
Reminds me of the comment by Oscar Levant about Doris Day: "I knew her before she was a virgin."
Posted by: Boswell
312
Don Lemon just announced that tonight will be his last show on CNN:
Posted by: weft cut-loop
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Wow. Some people are taking this mask thing a little too hard.
Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2021 10:36 PM (Eicbe)
313
Don Lemon just announced that tonight will be his last show on CNN:
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 14, 2021 10:32 PM (nI1Kq)
And five people now don't know what to watch during his time slot...
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2021 10:36 PM (w2LAm)
314
WHO FARTED!? (and they all had bean burritos for breakfast, lunch and their Last Supper.)
Jim
*everybody attempts to point a Jesús*
Posted by: Miklos, guessificacion at May 14, 2021 10:37 PM (QzkSJ)
315
Missus Muldoon was blessed with the real artistic talent in our family. She has a great eye and really cool design concepts.
We have 10 double hung windows in our house. For winter I built some insulated plywood panels to insert, covering the windows to retain heat. She came up with an idea that any family members who came to visit could decorate/paint one of the panels, with one proviso. They had to stick to a theme of primitive cave pictograph styles. So looking up from where I am sitting right now I can see several of the panels, each with the unique spin of the person who painted it, but all tied together by the common theme. We've got some Kokopelli (hump backed flute player and part-time fertility god), some thunderbirds, some stick figures and some pictures that incorporated the wood grain into primitive fish-like beings. Really a neat idea.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 14, 2021 10:38 PM (Fc5rx)
317
Don Lemon just announced that tonight will be his last show on CNN:
Posted by: weft cut-loop
---------- Lol, I wonder where he/shall/it shall go. He's shain't!
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 10:38 PM (+ya+t)
318
Don Lemon just announced that tonight will be his last show on CNN:
Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 14, 2021 10:32 PM (nI1Kq)
And five people now don't know what to watch during his time slot...
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2021 10:36 PM (w2LAm)
You know, I'm mildly curious what his time slot is and who kicks his ass every night, but I honestly don't care enough to even look it up.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:38 PM (BMmaB)
319
I'd read the actor who played Jar Jar Binks in the Star Wars franchise
considered suicide when his character was described as a "Rastafarian
Stepin Fetchit"..Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021
these people need to grow up and realize they are just shows. i am as traditional as anyone here. But i came to realize most things are business an they are just shows. The NFL is a show, the PGA Tour is a show, it is not much different than Les Miserables. To go after the Jar Jar guy is a low blow. Get a life people, he did more and tried to do more than 90 percent of you.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:39 PM (x/IHv)
320
"Confederate slaveowners used the same logic to defend slavery as the Cato Institute uses to defend women living a life as human chattel in foreign sweatshops."
Gee, I wonder if that has any relationship to how often libertarians indulging in Civil War Revisionism?
Aw, who am I kidding? Of course it does!
324
You know, I'm mildly curious what his time slot is and who kicks his ass every night, but I honestly don't care enough to even look it up.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:38 PM (BMmaB)
No need - they're called "everybody"
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2021 10:40 PM (w2LAm)
325And five people now don't know what to watch during his time slot...
Posted by: Boswell at May 14, 2021 10:36 PM (w2LAm)
LOL
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 10:40 PM (s9fsa)
326
But i came to realize most things are business an they are just shows.
The NFL is a show, the PGA Tour is a show, it is not much different than
Les Miserables.
James Brown was famous for noticing that it was a show and a business.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:41 PM (BMmaB)
327
Both him and Gandhi were nasty preverts.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
It's nice when people spell "prevert" right.
Posted by: Major Miklos Kong at May 14, 2021 10:41 PM (QzkSJ)
328 Figure out how to get 25 illegals into one of those.
I heard they take out all the seats except for the driver's and stack them in like sardines or taquitos.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2021 10:41 PM (63Dwl)
329..*everybody attempts to point a Jesús* Posted by: Miklos, guessificacion at May 14, 2021 10:37 PM (QzkSJ)
That would be in a word, 'difficult', given that nine of the passengers were named Jesus. Two others were Hose-A and Hose-B. Three of the five women were named Mary.
Makes roll call both simplified, and confusing, all at once.
Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021 10:42 PM (H+h2h)
331
Just read the DHS is w a ring that now that covid restrictions are easing there is increased danger from , get this, domestic terrorist motivated by racism and anti govt. feelings.
How convenient. It's as if there is a script.
Posted by: Ripley at May 14, 2021 10:42 PM (PTDkx)
332
James Brown was famous for noticing that it was a show and a business.
333
You know, I'm mildly curious what his time slot is and who kicks his ass every night, but I honestly don't care enough to even look it up.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:38 PM (BMmaB)
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He's getting his ass kicked by Maddie and Hannity
Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2021 10:42 PM (Eicbe)
334
I saw Star Wars when it came out. Everyone wanted to see it, it was something to see. We stayed in the theater for multiple viewings. We were not geeks and 90 percent of people were not geeks. It was a major event and everyone was in on it.Now it is odd that people freak about what some billionaire will come up with now. None of that had anything to do with the original Star Wars craze
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:42 PM (x/IHv)
335
I heard they take out all the seats except for the driver's and stack them in like sardines or taquitos.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2021 10:41 PM (63Dwl You can get a couple of dozen tamales into a paper bag, so yeah, I guess that's the model.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:42 PM (BMmaB)
336
James Brown was famous for noticing that it was a show and a business.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon
The Hardest Working Man in ShowBidnis!
Posted by: Butane Miklos-James and the Famous Flames at May 14, 2021 10:43 PM (QzkSJ)
337
What's a charka ?
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 10:40 PM (arJlL)
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Twenty bucks, same as in town.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2021 10:43 PM (fLVm1)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 14, 2021 10:43 PM (7bRMQ)
340
JEM--re the personal vs history for it's own sake.
I've always had some interest in history, and went to HS/college when it was still actually taught. But in working out a family tree finding ancestors who were actually involved in that history makes it more real. Father of one great grandmother was involved in the Chartist movement, a brother of a great grandfather was in the British army in WWI, a great grand uncle was in the Great White Fleet, there were others. It makes the history more real, at least for me.
Posted by: Lirio100 at May 14, 2021 10:44 PM (uFOGo)
341
What's a charka ?
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 10:40 PM (arJlL)
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Twenty bucks, same as in town.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
342
I heard they take out all the seats except for the driver's and stack them in like sardines or taquitos.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 14, 2021 10:41 PM (63Dwl)
With 25 people in there, the springs must be all the way down to the jounce bumpers, and the tires dangerously overloaded, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 14, 2021 10:45 PM (gbFUY)
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 14, 2021 10:43 PM (7bRMQ)
in 1977 we did. But it had nothing to do with being a geek. To be honest, well went.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:45 PM (x/IHv)
345
Just read the DHS is w a ring that now that covid
restrictions are easing there is increased danger from , get this,
domestic terrorist motivated by racism and anti govt. feelings.
How convenient. It's as if there is a script.
Posted by: Ripley at May 14, 2021 10:42 PM (PTDkx I wonder what the intersection is between {white supremacist domestic terrorists} and {people worried about catching COVID if they go outside}?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 10:45 PM (BMmaB)
346
@35 Festivities continue in Gaza. Rocket attacks on Ashdod, Ashkelon, Be'er Sheva, Sderot, etc (all in the south). Lively Israeli greeting program underway involving airstrikes, artillery, and naval gunboat fire.
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The way you phrased it puts me in mind of a (SFW) doujinshi for the game Azur Lane, that had space case HMS Glorious sending a friendly greeting - via air strike - to lonely, socially awkward Tirpitz, and Tirpitz sending her friendly reply to Glorious via a full broadside.
Posted by: junior at May 14, 2021 10:45 PM (PTw5h)
347
Chakra Khan, Chakra Kahn
Let me rock you Chakra Kahn
Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2021 10:46 PM (Eicbe)
348
in 1977 we did. But it had nothing to do with being a geek. To be honest, well went.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:45 PM (x/IHv)
I give it credit for one thing, getting Star Trek back.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 14, 2021 10:46 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2021 10:48 PM (Eicbe)
352
You know, we were horrified when Lucas (after Empire) seemed to turn the focus to trying to draw in kids and sell toys. Aside from the creepy possibility, is that worse than whatever it is Disney is trying to do?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 14, 2021 10:33 PM (lmikk)
Disney is trying to use it to destroy American culture and go woke. Lucan mostly just used it to make money and criticize the Vietnam War (at least that is his modern rationalization for the first 3 films) and bash Bush with 2 of the others (finding it hard to fault him for that these days), so The Mouse is worse.
Posted by: Bete at May 14, 2021 10:48 PM (Ojki1)
353
Charkhas are small hand driven wheels that drive a spindle. India churns out folding charkhas that have built in wheels that open up for spinning.
Spinning Jenny 837-5309
Posted by: Miklos on an industrial scale at May 14, 2021 10:48 PM (QzkSJ)
354
Charkhas are small hand driven wheels that drive a spindle. India churns out folding charkhas that have built in wheels that open up for spinning.
362
I don't remember if they required GFCI for the fridge circuit. The NEC didn't use to, but that may have changed.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 14, 2021 10:48 PM (Mzdiz)
Code used to call for a dedicated 20-amp outlet for the fridge, and no GFCI or AFCI needed. New code calls for AFCI in all panel positions. They are expensive, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 14, 2021 10:52 PM (gbFUY)
One wonders what the Burmese use to spin cotton...
Posted by: Zettai at May 14, 2021 10:53 PM (H+h2h)
365Gee, I wonder if that has any relationship to how often libertarians indulging in Civil War Revisionism?
Aw, who am I kidding? Of course it does! Posted by: Sam at May 14, 2021 10:39 PM (ohyxL)
To be honest, we have to admit that all history is revisionist. The main problem is that the revisions serve one or another of sacred concepts that are seen as "foundational" and the conflict is over which foundational story we are telling. - Well, revisionist and amnesiac. What were the states that engaged of Nullification of federal escaped slave laws at the state legislature level, for example?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2021 10:53 PM (u0j5n)
366
If you run out of charkha jokes, see what you can do with the spindle the Thais use for cotton, the akha.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 14, 2021 10:52 PM (YynYJ)
You mean, the Chinese anal swab?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at May 14, 2021 10:53 PM (7bRMQ)
367
Farmer.......I love you man and thank you!
Posted by: westminsterdogshow at May 14, 2021 10:16
You remind me of what fun time we had at the GNAMM? in Vegas. Who is here tonight from then? AOP, Eris, Arbalest...?
Posted by: Farmer at May 14, 2021 10:54 PM (55Qr6)
368
Burmese. Yeah, you won't see them around here no more.
Posted by: Clemenza at May 14, 2021 10:54 PM (fLVm1)
369What's a charka ? Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 10:40 PM (arJlL)
It means "puddle" in Spanish
Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2021 10:54 PM (u0j5n)
370
Code used to call for a dedicated 20-amp outlet for the fridge, and no GFCI or AFCI needed. New code calls for AFCI in all panel positions. They are expensive, too.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
Posted by: Muldoon at May 14, 2021 10:55 PM (Fc5rx)
374
Do they cost more than an akha ?
Posted by: JT
22 bucks, same as in town
Posted by: Miklos, adjusting for inflation at May 14, 2021 10:56 PM (QzkSJ)
375
It was the Cromwell and Pancho Villa that got me.
Not even the same century....I'm not saying it was Aliens....
Posted by: Pikov Andropov at May 14, 2021 10:55 PM (rt0xh)
thankyou. I think to him it was aliens.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:57 PM (x/IHv)
376
>> New code calls for AFCI in all panel positions. They are expensive, too.
You can, at least under the NEC (don't know about Canada) used the feed-through receptacles. When a circuit needs to be both GFCI and AFCI, you usually one breaker and a feed-through for the other, or a combo device, which they do make, although more expensive.
That saves on breaker costs. Me, however, with the new house, I don't like the feed-thru devices and put the actual Square D QO breakers in. It cost about $1K for the breakers, which I bought myself. But I willingly took that hit.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 14, 2021 10:57 PM (Mzdiz)
377
Do they cost more than an akha ?
Posted by: JT
22 bucks, same as in town
Posted by: Miklos, adjusting for inflation
378
Thanks. I have tried all the breakers. Nothing so far. ------------- Iris, say your problem again. Pretty smart people in the trades here.
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 10:57 PM (+ya+t)
379
I tried some Warhammer novels on audiobook, and they are amazing. I have zero interest in Star Trek or Star Wars right now, and I think I never will.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 14, 2021 10:57 PM (ybIRR)
380
Also Thomas Crowell was a minister to Henry VIII, 16th Century. Oliver Cromwell, Lord Protector of England mid 17th
Posted by: Pikov Andropov at May 14, 2021 10:58 PM (rt0xh)
381, see what you can do with the spindle the Thais use for cotton, the akha.
*****
I'm going to nominate this comment as a possible Threadwinder.
Posted by: Muldoon at May 14, 2021 10:58 PM (Fc5rx)
382
I really like those Burmese Mountain Dogs
Posted by: Muldoon
383
379 I tried some Warhammer novels on audiobook, and they are amazing. I have zero interest in Star Trek or Star Wars right now, and I think I never will.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 14, 2021 10:57 PM (ybIRR)
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Can I interest you in some space opera intersectional feminism?
Posted by: Kathleen Kennedy at May 14, 2021 10:59 PM (fLVm1)
384
the yutes will never have movies like Star Wars, Jaws, ET, Raiders, Vacation etc. It doesn't surprise me they glom on to Star Wars.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:59 PM (x/IHv)
385
One of the funniest lines I ever heard was from John Ritter. After everything in his life has gone to shit, he bursts into a friends beach house to announce "There is a God and He's a gag writer!" Cue the small tidal wave. From Skin Deep.
Posted by: JTB at May 14, 2021 11:00 PM (7EjX1)
386 Thanks. I have tried all the breakers. Nothing so far. Posted by: Iris at May 14, 2021 10:50 PM (6lKe4)
is there a re-set on the fridge itself?
Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2021 11:00 PM (u0j5n)
387 Just got up and checked. The fridge circuit is AFCI only, no GFCI. I need to look that up to see what the rule is exactly.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 14, 2021 11:00 PM (Mzdiz)
388
I'm going to nominate this comment as a possible Threadwinder.
Posted by: Muldoon
You're just needling us, aren't you?
Posted by: Miklos, a bit warped at May 14, 2021 11:00 PM (QzkSJ)
391
I actually don't know what the Burmese use. But I did meet a Somali woman when I visited Toronto. I got to see her spin cotton on the spindle she brought with her, when she immigrated.
392
22 bucks, same as in town
Posted by: Miklos, adjusting for inflation
Inflation has hit our little world ......tsk tsk
Posted by: JT at May 14, 2021 10:57 PM (arJlL)
10%
Posted by: Thread Math Asshole at May 14, 2021 11:03 PM (/40/U)
393
hard take, or hot take. But Back to the Future is beyond overrated. You see this reaction channels and they all have to do it. But why? sure it is fine the first few times but crap, if a movie has ever been overrated that is it. Do one one on Uncommon Valor, try to be original.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 11:03 PM (x/IHv)
394
Quint: SACRILEGE!!!!!!
Now Pulp Fiction OTOH...
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2021 11:04 PM (L2ZTs)
395
Already got my copy of Galaxy Quest. Will watch it soon.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2021 11:05 PM (L2ZTs)
396
That saves on breaker costs. Me, however, with the new house, I don't like the feed-thru devices and put the actual Square D QO breakers in. It cost about $1K for the breakers, which I bought myself. But I willingly took that hit.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 14, 2021 10:57 PM (Mzdiz)
Somebody should design an arc-fault panel. Have a device in the panel that continually scans all the branch circuits for the characteristic electrical noise signature of an arc. Should it find such an indication, it could then trip the breaker on the offending circuit by shunting in a fat load to ground. And turn on an "arc fault detected" lamp on the panle cover.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 14, 2021 11:05 PM (gbFUY)
397 Looked it up. For residential kitchens, a dedicated fridge circuit does need to be GFCI, provided it's not a "counter top receptacle". If it's not accessible from the counter area, it doesn't need to be.
However, for *commercial refrigerators*, GFCIs are required. As well as any fridge in a garage.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 14, 2021 11:05 PM (Mzdiz)
398
I actually don't know what the Burmese use. But I did meet a Somali woman when I visited Toronto. I got to see her spin cotton on the spindle she brought with her, when she immigrated.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward
Posted by: dartist at May 14, 2021 11:09 PM (+ya+t)
405
Notsothoreau, did I ever ramble on about my belief that the spinning whorl, specifically a form like the Turkish drop spindle, is the basis for the development of the wheel, but through the development of the chariot?
I like to tell origin stories, and that one was fun to make up, They are better than making up conspiracies. I am not obliged to believe myself with origin stories
Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2021 11:09 PM (u0j5n)
406
Warhammer is damn near impervious to political correctness. It would be easier to corrupt an impenetrable IP like Dune.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 14, 2021 11:10 PM (ybIRR)
Posted by: Josie Cotton at May 14, 2021 11:10 PM (QzkSJ)
408
She was spinning cotton out of a pill bottle. Spindle whorl was made of gourd, about the size of a quarter. Shaft was cane and the hook was a staple. The women were the spinners and the men did the weaving.
409
One of my all time favorite movies is Viva, Max! I Mexican general (Peter Ustinov)tries to retake the Alamo in the early 1970s, assisted by his sergeant, John Astin. A bunch of good old boys, led by Johnathan Winters, charter a bus to save the Alamo. He careful of what version you get. The reason the general is retaking the Alamo is because people make fun of him, saying that he is such a poor leader his men won't follow him to a French whorehouse. But some bright light cleaned it up, substituting out house for French whorehouse. Al Hirt's solo is absolutely stunning.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at May 14, 2021 11:11 PM (efX5n)
410
How would that work in the case of an EMP/Carrington Event?
Posted by: Miklos, thinking a bit like Publius, Who Knows Stuff at May 14, 2021 11:08 PM (QzkSJ)
That might trip the whole panel, which is neither here nor there, under those circumstances.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 14, 2021 11:11 PM (gbFUY)
411
"Vodka Zettai" doesn't roll off the tongue, either...
Pikov Andvodkov?
Posted by: Pikov Andropov at May 14, 2021 11:11 PM (rt0xh)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2021 11:12 PM (L2ZTs)
413Eric Stoltz is in the role of Marty McFly, not Michael J. Fox.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2021 11:08 PM (L2ZTs)
I've seen part of that. The diner scene when he first meets his dad.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 11:12 PM (s9fsa)
414
at some point pull out a table lamp and plug it into that socket and see if there is any juice.
if there is it is the fridge.
if there isn't find an extension cord
Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2021 11:13 PM (u0j5n)
415
Already got my copy of Galaxy Quest. Will watch it soon.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2021 11:05 PM (L2ZTs)
Now THAT is a good movie. Plus I love Sam Rockwell.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 11:08 PM (s9fsa)
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A movie that David Mamet called "One of the four perfect movies".
Posted by: Axeman at May 14, 2021 11:13 PM (Eicbe)
416
It's possible. Some of the primitive wheels were sticks laced to a hub. The other ends were laced tin a way to form a cradle to hold a drive band.
And then there is the spinning wheel being the inspiration for the circular saw, invented by a Shaker sister.
Posted by: Ed McMikloMahon at May 14, 2021 11:16 PM (QzkSJ)
420
FMJ in particular is a movie I think sucks ass and will always suck ass.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 10:01 PM (x/IHv)
I've always considered FMJ two movies: boot camp, fantastic and the war party which, I agree with you, sucks ass
Posted by: Pikov Andropov at May 14, 2021 11:16 PM (rt0xh)
421
One of my all time favorite movies is Viva, Max! I
Mexican general (Peter Ustinov)tries to retake the Alamo in the early
1970s, assisted by his sergeant, John Astin. A bunch of good old boys,
led by Johnathan Winters, charter a bus to save the Alamo. He careful of
what version you get. The reason the general is retaking the Alamo is
because people make fun of him, saying that he is such a poor leader his
men won't follow him to a French whorehouse. But some bright light
cleaned it up, substituting out house for French whorehouse. Al Hirt's
solo is absolutely stunning.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at May 14, 2021 11:11 PM (efX5n I swear I remember that being on TV as a special presentation when I was a kid in Texas.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 14, 2021 11:16 PM (BMmaB)
422
Good night JT! Thanks for the Midnight at the Oasis story, LOL.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 11:16 PM (s9fsa)
423
invented by a Shaker sister.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
Of Color
Posted by: Miklos at Great Zimbabwe at May 14, 2021 11:17 PM (QzkSJ)
424
I know everyone loves Back to the Future. I saw it in theaters. No doubt, no one who saw it thought it would be as iconic as today. I would have gone with The Breakfast Club or St Elmo's Fire. But watch Uncommon Valor. And tell me it was less of a film than Back to the Future. Maybe i am crying up a rope, we all like what we like. But wow, that is one i truly don't get. A good movie for sure, but in the mid 80s we had a lot of them. These days, we don't get any.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 11:18 PM (x/IHv)
425
From me, but I think Johnny's queer.
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Ah. Tis the birthday of Robert Owen (1771)
All the world is queer save thee and me, and even thee are a little queer. - Robert Owen, to his business partner
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2021 11:18 PM (bk3Sg)
426
I hope you're happy! I am dying to know what predilated the Don Lemon exit unless it is boring ratings issue.
427
Robert Owen, to his business partner
Posted by: Mike Hammer
Well, to be fair, Owen is Welsh
Posted by: Miklos thinks they have sheep, so no excuses at May 14, 2021 11:19 PM (QzkSJ)
428
DON LEMON WAS FIRED???!!!???
Oh happy day!!!!
Now he can go back to what he was born to do: servicing glory holes across the USA.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2021 11:20 PM (L2ZTs)
429
Well I just splattered hot butter on myself, making a grilled cheese.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 14, 2021 11:20 PM (ybIRR)
430
Bourbon, in several states that legally makes you popcorn!
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2021 11:21 PM (L2ZTs)
431 Well, to be fair, Owen is Welsh
Posted by: Miklos
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A rare bit of Welsh, I would say.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 14, 2021 11:22 PM (bk3Sg)
432Well I just splattered hot butter on myself, making a grilled cheese.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 14, 2021 11:20 PM (ybIRR)
You weren't nekkid, were you?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 11:22 PM (s9fsa)
433
I've always considered FMJ two movies: boot camp, fantastic and the war party which, I agree with you, sucks ass
Posted by: Pikov Andropov at May 14, 2021 11:16 PM (rt0xh)
Ermey was incredible. The guy that played Pyle and Modine were both good too. What bothers me is these movies shit on vets and we take it. There are so few options so we go for it, including myself. It took a lot of viewings to realize the entire point was to shit on vets and AMerica. I am not some gun ho type than thinks everything has to be John Wayne's Green Berets. But i have have been around. And these guys were shitting on America. if the history were true, even then, i would go for it. But I have known too many Vietnam Vets, and the Hollyweird history is not true, even though they did take the culture.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 11:23 PM (x/IHv)
434 This arc-fault business got started when they got to looking at house fire data (and from what I've seen, I wouldn't place too much faith in that. I've watched a fireman basically take a wild guess on the cause of a fire one time and put that down in the report).
They concluded a big cause of fires was low current arcs (and at the start, it was only on bedroom circuits, IIRC). You get a hot to ground/neutral "short" but it is arcing. It doesn't pull enough to trigger the magnetic instantaneous trip mechanism, and might not pull enough to trip the longer acting thermal trip mechanism.
So they came up with the idea of a device that would try to detect arc current signatures and trip based on that.
Note there are two types, shunt arcs as I described above, and then series arcs, like with a loose connection.
The latest devices are "combination" detecting both types. The series type used to be most prone to nuisance tripping with things like brush motors.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 14, 2021 11:24 PM (Mzdiz)
435
I will stick with Garry Owen, here is a not bad version-
https://tinyurl.com/9ct8ykfs
Posted by: Miklos , hoping the Cav arrives in time at May 14, 2021 11:24 PM (QzkSJ)
436
A rare bit of Welsh, I would say.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
Another cheesy pun.
Posted by: Miklos , almost toasted at May 14, 2021 11:25 PM (QzkSJ)
437Confederate slaveowners used the same logic to defend slavery as the Cato Institute uses to defend women living a life as human chattel in foreign sweatshops.
Are you talking about actual slave labor and actual chattel, or are you indulging in leftist word bending here? People take shitty jobs because those jobs are the best they can do. The practical effect of pressuring companies to eliminate those jobs is the people who do them are forced into something worse. Prostitution, maybe, or just starvation.
Posted by: Ace's liver at May 14, 2021 11:26 PM (wGeit)
438
Well I just splattered hot butter on myself, making a grilled cheese.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at May 14, 2021 11:20 PM (ybIRR)
You weren't nekkid, were you?
Posted by: Jordan61
pics, or it so happened.
Posted by: Miklos, checking the rules at May 14, 2021 11:27 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 14, 2021 11:33 PM (vuisn)
442
It's naked sleeping weather down in Dixie. We are sneaking into the Country Club pool for some skinny dipping at 2am with another couple. Hole number 5 is the best for late night outdoor fooling around.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 14, 2021 11:34 PM (IYf/Y)
443
In the Cafe thread, TC asked me what I thought of Israel's actions so far.
So far it seems they're doing what they have to do. We see the all-out Hamas rocket campaign, but we don't know exactly why it's happening now and what the strategy might be - if there is much of one. Israel has to do everything they can do to mitigate this threat ASAP, and as Israel has long done and certainly in this case is doing, use the occasion to check other boxes to reduce future threat levels, as well.
Degrading Hamas capability and maximizing deterrent effect on Hezbollah and Iran are probably the twin Israeli goals. I am assuming Bibi and others realize the US is no longer reliable, and may even be effectively hostile in some respects, clock is turned back to 2016.
West Bank Palestinian action so far limited, but growing, far more disturbing Israeli Arab riots in Acre, Lod, and Nazareth (including last night, their time) only reinforce basic Israeli goals and requirements.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 11:35 PM (OTzUX)
444
I will stick with Garry Owen, here is a not bad version-
https://tinyurl.com/9ct8ykfs
Posted by: Miklos , hoping the Cav arrives in time at May 14, 2021 11:24 PM (QzkSJ) i still say Uncommon Valor is underrated. I know that because I never see it being mentioned ever. that has to be underrated, more like memory holed.
When i see the men that Hal Moore commanded, I think of people I know of personally that wanted to serve and go into combat. War is Hell, they know it more than i do But i would be lying if to claim there were not men who wanted to go in, they did. Hollyweird never shows that because they have an agenda. They took over the Vietnam history as a first test. It has been all down hill since then. Sure we have had some wins, but tell me the last time we controlled the historical narrative.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 14, 2021 11:36 PM (u0j5n)
446
Kindltot, yup. Somebody replaced the fine coffee Colombians normally serve with Folger's Crystals!
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 14, 2021 11:38 PM (L2ZTs)
447
442 It's naked sleeping weather down in Dixie. We are sneaking into the Country Club pool for some skinny dipping at 2am with another couple. Hole number 5 is the best for late night outdoor fooling around.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 14, 2021 11:34 PM (IYf/Y)
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TMI
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2021 11:38 PM (fLVm1)
448Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 11:35 PM (x/IHv)
Hubs loves Uncommon Valor.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 11:40 PM (s9fsa)
Posted by: Juan Valdez and his Donkey at May 14, 2021 11:40 PM (fLVm1)
451
it is a bit surprising how the turks march to such a faggy sng. hate see their pardes.
Posted by: confederatefifth at May 14, 2021 11:41 PM (cPlMq)
452
Hole number 5 is the best for late night outdoor fooling around.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe
It's in the hole. IT"S IN THE HOLE!!!
Posted by: Miklos "Carl" Spackler at May 14, 2021 11:41 PM (QzkSJ)
453
My dad was a Vietnam war hero. he spilled blood and had his own blood spilled. i am reticent to mention is because it goes so far away from what everyone else believes. But my dad was already serving, already in the service. They told him he was not going to Vietnam. He said fine, here are my wings. American Airlines already wants me. You don't send me, I am done.
I don't mention that lightly. In fact, i have never mentioned that any other place ever. i know people have there own experiences with Vietnam. And I don't blame them for their choices. But I bet the few have heard stories like this, it goes way against the narrative. But i have to live up to this every day. BTW, he got shot but good, an AK round through both legs. I have the bullet because he was hard core I would rather have my dad.
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 14, 2021 11:43 PM (Jzz++)
455
452 Hole number 5 is the best for late night outdoor fooling around.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe
Isn't that where Tiger Woods sleepwalks?
Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 14, 2021 11:43 PM (vuisn)
456
FUN FACT: In WWII the krauts made coffee out of acorns, sawdust and mud.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at May 14, 2021 11:44 PM (fLVm1)
457
In my "news" blackout I might never know, but there's likely to be a world media moral panic over an Israeli strike on a top Hamas commander's home in the al-Shati refugee camp area of Gaza today, in which several children were killed (presumably his family).
Of course literally every Hamas rocket that doesn't fall on Gaza itself (many have) which manages to make it past Iron Dome creates the possibility of many dead Israeli children - their entire "campaign" is indiscriminate.
But the Israelis - like the Americans - are expected to be perfect in their strenuous efforts to avoid harming non-combatants. It's not 2006 or 1982, though, and the "panic" may be fairly flaccid. Arab states newly at peace with Israel may well offer pro forma protests - but for example in the UAE, a lot of attention already has been drawn to Red Crescent allegations that Hamas is committing war crimes by siting military assets at their field hospitals. Even the Euroweenies are not piling on - today Austria's parliament flew the Israeli flag (up yours, Schickelgruber!).
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 11:46 PM (OTzUX)
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Posted by: Jordan61 at May 14, 2021 11:40 PM (s9fsa)
I think the movie is very underrated.
Posted by: Quint at May 14, 2021 11:46 PM (x/IHv)
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Did you hear about the guy who broke into Tiger Woods' house?
Took a lot of balls.
heyo
Posted by: Dr. Varno at May 14, 2021 11:47 PM (vuisn)
460
It got dusty in here real quick after watching this.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 14, 2021 11:49 PM (IYf/Y)
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he wasn't killed by that AK round. I want to be clear there. He did his thirty years. he is gone and way too soon, just like my mom. He freaking hated Platoon, we even got into it. I said I though it was great and he said "I was there" There really was not much else i could say as a teen.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 14, 2021 11:52 PM (i0wNm)
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Quint, brutal story. Not clear to me, did he die from those wounds?
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 14, 2021 11:54 PM (Jzz++)
465
an Valdez' "donkey" was actually a mule named "Conchita"...
Posted by: Zettai
Hand picked, and only when ready
Posted by: if Miklos remembers accurately at May 14, 2021 11:54 PM (QzkSJ)
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Got an invite to join my local nextdoor. Thoughts?
Posted by: SFGoth at May 14, 2021 09:09 PM (KAi1n)
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if you had sane neighbors, i'd say yes, maybe...
since you live in Frisco, it will be populated by the Karenwafe, and a sewer of woke stupidity.
Posted by: redc1c4
Actually, believe it or not, some of my neighbors are sane. I don't want to implicate anyone but the ones I know aren't woke. Some of them have been here longer than me (23 years). I haven't seen any Karens either. Hard to believe, inorite?
Posted by: SFGoth at May 14, 2021 11:56 PM (KAi1n)
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I'll see the Media Moral Panic re: Palestine, and raise you my Nine Dimensional Apathy.
Posted by: klaftern at May 14, 2021 11:57 PM (RuIsu)
468
The "endless war" in the MidEast of course has not been any of ours, which were fairly brief, but Israel's, first against states, now against whatever you call Hamas, Hezbollah, et al.
And given Israel's focus ("purity of arms") to minimize non-combatant harm, some novel tactics have developed.
The "roof knock", for example. Now being used extensively in Gaza (one just happened an hour ago on the al-Rawda high-rise tower). A small bomb is dropped on the top of a large building. This "knock" is a "get TF out" warning to all inside. Often accompanied/preceded by drones broadcasting same message, or even phone robocalls to inhabitants. The next bomb, or artillery rounds, that arrive are ..... more substantial.
My phone now screens all robocalls. So I'd be in trouble if I were the target of a "get TF out" warning. Fortunately no aerial bombing in my area. Yet.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 14, 2021 11:57 PM (OTzUX)
469
Also, I wouldn't participate (I pretty much keep to myself), but I would like to keep an eye on the scuttlebutt I'm not otherwise privy to.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 14, 2021 11:57 PM (KAi1n)
470
Got an invite to join my local nextdoor. Thoughts?
Posted by: SFGoth
Fly your Moron Freak Flag.
Posted by: Miklos supports the boo-ya approach at May 14, 2021 11:58 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 14, 2021 11:58 PM (Jzz++)
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Quint, thanks for sharing your story about your dad. It's obvious how much you loved and respected him.
Can't keep my eyes open anymore.
G'night Horde.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 15, 2021 12:00 AM (s9fsa)
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Quint, brutal story. Not clear to me, did he die from those wounds?
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 14, 2021 11:54 PM (Jzz++)
sorry for being obsucre, that was not my intention. He did not die from those wounds. He did 1 and a half tours in Vietnam and then spent a long time in Japan recovering. He finished his service after 30 years. He also served during the Cuban Missile Crises. and the Quemoy Matsu Crises.
His best story was from Quemoy Matsu. He once flew over mainland China and they were sending up all kinds of ordinance. For some reason he didn't know where he was. Someone got on the squak and they got him out of there. We always said he almost caused World War 3.
Posted by: Quint at May 15, 2021 12:01 AM (x/IHv)
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The top pic reminds me of the Delphi murders. Hopefully the guy they just caught for the attack on the 9-year-old will also turn out to be the killer of Abby and Libby.
Posted by: JuJuBee at May 15, 2021 12:01 AM (mNhhD)
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Quint, thanks for sharing your story about your dad. It's obvious how much you loved and respected him.
Can't keep my eyes open anymore.
G'night Horde.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 15, 2021 12:00 AM (s9fsa)
you are very kind. He was my hero.
Posted by: Quint at May 15, 2021 12:02 AM (x/IHv)
476
SFGoth,
Next door is a sewer. They Area you receive updates from is frequently adjusted and expanded. Seldom contains useful community information and frequently has idiots voicing political stupidity
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 15, 2021 12:02 AM (Jzz++)
477
My phone now screens all robocalls.
Posted by: rhomboid
What do you sue to screen them? Old Mama desperately needs something. She gets 40-50 spam/ripoff call per day.
Sometimes I pick up and cuss in Hungarian, but this amusing hobby does not really help.
Posted by: Miklos from Mumbai Call Centre at May 15, 2021 12:02 AM (QzkSJ)
Question for The Horde: My computer died and I am editing my post on Mr. Bar the Door's computer. I don't have a link to that site that translates text to a form which is friendly to the ancient HTML used here.
This is true, it is especially obvious in the 2nd half although Pyle's demise is blamed if not directly, indirectly on the boot camp methods. I do see your point
Posted by: Pikov Andropov at May 15, 2021 12:03 AM (rt0xh)
Posted by: Pete Bog at May 15, 2021 12:03 AM (Jzz++)
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klaftern, it's not your father's Oldsmobile in terms of the MidEast and Israel, as you know, so I'm not even sure there'll be much hubbub - as I said, a "flaccid" panic (and I saw Flaccid Panic open for Dave Matthews at Balboa Stadium in '7.
One thing, the disastrous idiocy of the third Obama term's Iran policy is being confirmed in spectacular fashion even as it just begins. Hamas is more/less an Iranian proxy. Pretty clear Tehran and Hamas are feeling confident the US will not be a factor here.
And AFAIK - and it's sickening to think about - the US remains at the table in Vienna with the vile Iranian regime, dangling all kinds of sanctions relief in front of them in return for meaningless nuclear commitments. As the IRGC commander meets with Hamas and Hezbollah types in Lebanon.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 12:05 AM (OTzUX)
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When i see the men that Hal Moore commanded, I think
of people I know of personally that wanted to serve and go into combat. @Quint, I know a lot of Ia Drang Valley veterans -- they made up a kind of mafia of senior officers and NCOs who led the battalion I served in the 82d Airborne in the mid- to late 1980's (20 years after Ia Drang, give or take). I think they continued to serve together because that battle was a bonding experience that gave them trust in each other and they sought each other out. The other thing it did was to make our unit unbelievably cohesive and mission-focused. It really was special.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 15, 2021 12:07 AM (BMmaB)
Posted by: helpful Miklos at May 15, 2021 12:07 AM (QzkSJ)
484
Miklos after decades of heroic resistance I succumbed and got a smart phone (my old dumb mobile phone was powered by anthracite coal that's just too hard to find now). AAPL flavor, ATT, so I don't know what's going on other than I selected "silence unknown callers" or something like that when setting it up.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 12:09 AM (OTzUX)
485
From today's San Francisco Chronicle (online): "S.F. can't ban people charged with dealing drugs from Tenderloin, court rules". Crazy, huh? What's really crazy is that this was a civil case brought by the City Attorney because the District Attorney (the criminal law counterpart) is Chesa Boudin and, well, do I really have to say more? Even the very liberal City Attorney is fed up with the complete non-enforcement of drug laws here, either sale, possession, or use. It's basically Chesa's policy not to prosecute unless a kilo is seized, and no dealer carries a kilo. That's why there's dozens of dealers hanging out. Collectively, they have a kilo.... LOL. The dealers actually do keep other crime (robbery, auto break-ins, etc.) down where they do business, that stuff being bad for their business. OTOH, if S.F. simply did not revive the opiate ODs, at least that customer base would wither on the vine.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 15, 2021 12:10 AM (KAi1n)
The Younger ZettaiSpawn, a female of middle-skool age, had been sent home to "quarantine" for 10 days yesterday due to a possible exposure to a case of the Shanghai Shivers...
I talked to the "contact tracing" people yesterday who sent me a follow up short code text today to check if she'd developed any symptoms -- "Reply 1 for 'yes', 2 for 'no'" -- but my mobile wouldn't send my reply... (It was '2', in case anyone is wondering!)
After several attempts and a search of teh go ogles, I'd discovered that I had to enable access to "premium SMS services" on my device for this to work...
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 12:11 AM (H+h2h)
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or something like that when setting it up.
Posted by: rhomboid
Well. don't have a smart phone, but got one for Old Mama. And a set of handsets that work off of the smart phone. I know that there are Android and iPhone apps that do a good job of blocking calls. Just asking which you might use (current phone is ATT and call blocking is apparently non-existent).
Posted by: helpneedful Miklos at May 15, 2021 12:12 AM (QzkSJ)
That's not the one I have been using, but I think it will work. Thanks.
Posted by: KT at May 15, 2021 12:12 AM (BVQ+1)
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SFGoth I get the NextDoor mail invites a few times a year. It's centered around the local elementary school, so clearly mostly a thing for parents. I specifically have never joined because I don't want to know, in detail, how idiotic the people living around me are. I already assume they're failed citizens, and I wish they lived on Neptune, so no desire to see just how clueless they are ("This home believes in science!" signs denote only a portion of the moonbat trash around here, I'm sure - and it's a veritable small town in Alabama compared to *your* AO, I'll bet - notwithstanding your disclaimer about that).
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 12:12 AM (OTzUX)
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Quint, I know a lot of Ia Drang Valley veterans --
they made up a kind of mafia of senior officers and NCOs who led the
battalion I served in the 82d Airborne in the mid- to late 1980's (20
years after Ia Drang, give or take). I think they continued to serve
together because that battle was a bonding experience that gave them
trust in each other and they sought each other out. The other thing it
did was to make our unit unbelievably cohesive and mission-focused. It
really was special.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 15, 2021 12:07 AM (BMmaB)
I read that book. there are some others. The idea that all that served didn't want to be there bothers me. It bothers me because it is historically untrue.
Posted by: Quint at May 15, 2021 12:13 AM (x/IHv)
491 I served in the 82d Airborne in the mid- to late 1980's ..
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As an aside, I note that Ft. Bragg, Ft. Benning, and Ft. Hood are all going to renamed by the Democrats.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 15, 2021 12:13 AM (830x5)
492
It took almost 200 years but Mexico will have won the battle after all.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 15, 2021 12:14 AM (RL8jg)
493
After several attempts and a search of teh go ogles, I'd discovered that I had to enable access to "premium SMS services" on my device for this to work...
Posted by: Zettai
imprima nueve por Español
Posted by: Miklos de los Tildes at May 15, 2021 12:15 AM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 12:16 AM (H+h2h)
495
Miklos, notwithstanding the "customer service" thread here recently, my recent experience with ATT (ending land-line, switching number to another line to keep it, and new mobile) has been excellent - so just call and have them help you out. I was actually kind of taken aback at the quality of the ATT customer service. After the first one, I told the boss "must have been a lucky chance to get that guy" - after the third different excellent rep I talked to, it seemed like a pattern. Had off-topic chat with 2 of them, that's how friendly they were. And very competent.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 12:17 AM (OTzUX)
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As an aside, I note that Ft. Bragg, Ft. Benning, and Ft. Hood are all going to renamed by the Democrats.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
The big sign at the main entrance to Ft. Jackson says "Victory Begins Here".
Guess they'll need to change that too.
Posted by: Miklos, whose Old Papa's Army ID is right here at May 15, 2021 12:17 AM (QzkSJ)
497
he wasn't killed by that AK round. I want to be clear there. He did his thirty years. he is gone and way too soon, just like my mom. He freaking hated Platoon, we even got into it. I said I though it was great and he said "I was there" There really was not much else i could say as a teen.
Posted by: Quint
___
Can kinda understand your dad's POV.
I won't watch anything dealing with OIF.
Posted by: SMH at May 15, 2021 12:17 AM (d62+N)
498
Is that Klinger standing next to Audi Murphy?
Posted by: Dino58
That was my thought too. Someone's been getting busy with the airbrushing.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 15, 2021 12:17 AM (KAi1n)
I no longer have any accounts with Goolag, Apple, or Microsoft...
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 12:22 AM (H+h2h)
503
I no longer have any accounts with Goolag, Apple, or Microsoft...
Posted by: Zettai
I had, but when I tried to log in, they asked to see my papers, please
Posted by: Miklos, for my security and convenience no doubt at May 15, 2021 12:24 AM (QzkSJ)
504
Zettai, Stilton Jarlsberg at FB says Google just slapped a 'malware warning' on his website if you look it up in Chrome.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 15, 2021 12:24 AM (L2ZTs)
505
As an aside, I note that Ft. Bragg, Ft. Benning, and Ft. Hood are all going to renamed by the Democrats.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 15, 2021 12:13 AM (830x5)
My guess is that they'll manage to stall the commission and the recommendations will wither on the vine. Referring things to a committee is an old bureaucratic trick. OTOH, if they were to update the names to actual Medal of Honor heroes from the present day who had some connection to those posts, that might not be a bad thing.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 15, 2021 12:25 AM (BMmaB)
506
He freaking hated Platoon, we even got into it. I said I though it was great and he said "I was there"
My father wouldn't watch "The Killing Fields" because he was well-acquainted with what was happening to civilians in Southeast Asia, having served as a foreign service officer in Thailand and Laos, 1962-1973, and he was in the field, not a REMF. He kept a diary, which I have a copy of, of his early years. He told me that when he'd go out to a village in Laos, they'd follow behind the local busses -- the busses cleared the landmines. IYKWIMAITTYD. Thailand wasn't so dangerous (well, if you exclude tropical diseases such as dengue, which he contracted) but that's where all the refugees tried to get to.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 15, 2021 12:28 AM (KAi1n)
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The big sign at the main entrance to Ft. Jackson says "Victory Begins Here".
A kid I referee with is there now going through boot camp.
Posted by: Pikov Andropov at May 15, 2021 12:28 AM (rt0xh)
508
Well, time for me to call it a night. be well, Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 15, 2021 12:33 AM (2IIGA)
509A kid I referee with is there now going through boot camp.
Posted by: Pikov Andropov at May 15, 2021 12:28 AM
I haven't had any social media accounts for over 10 years...
I'd received an email some weeks ago stating that someone had attempted to log into my FB account... I don't really know or care what that was all about!
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 12:34 AM (H+h2h)
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Caesar, can't agree about "updating" the base names. Unless you do it for *all* bases, it's just a surrender to the Khmer Rouge mentality degrading the nation.
Though it may be too late anyway.
Which reminds me, how goes Sen. Cornyn's quest to replace Columbus Day with Juneteenth? Somehow I don't think he's the kind to hang "Promises Made/Promises Kept" banners at his events.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 12:37 AM (OTzUX)
512
I just read that the Harriet Tubman $20 bills should be in circulation before too long.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 15, 2021 12:37 AM (L2ZTs)
513
A kid I referee with is there now going through boot camp.
Posted by: Pikov Andropov
Ask him
Maybe it already says "Feels Begin Here"
The first boot camp haircut could just be a blue dye job
With braids and extensions
Posted by: Miklos, looking at a young man's b/w ID, SP4 at the time at May 15, 2021 12:37 AM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 12:42 AM (H+h2h)
520
The Israelis even have been able to call building superintendents and guards at residential buildings in Gaza about to be hit to confirm everyone's out (these buildings, in a delightful and thoughtful effort to spread govt. spending around and forge closer ties between populace and security organizations, contain not just average Mohammeds, but Hamas intel and military offices and facilities).
The savages!
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 12:43 AM (OTzUX)
521
wolly chaps dude has not many cartridges in his belt..
Posted by: will choose a nic later at May 15, 2021 12:46 AM (bTQ72)
522
"MORITVRI SALVTAMVS" works too...
Posted by: Zettai
"Nos"
You forgitticus the "Nos" particus.
Posted by: Miklos, last of the Paleogliae at May 15, 2021 12:47 AM (QzkSJ)
523
The Guv should put Hiram Revels on the money. Strangely (?), he was born a free man in North Carolina (in 1827). Became a Senator from Mississippi in 1870. Not a Democrat, of course.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 15, 2021 12:47 AM (KAi1n)
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The Guv should put Hiram Revels on the money. Strangely (?), he was born a free man in North Carolina (in 1827). Became a Senator from Mississippi in 1870. Not a Democrat, of course.
Posted by: SFGoth
Which Guv?
I live down the road from the Old Confederate Mint (now a combination of apartments and a Publix, but they got some space).
Posted by: Miklos, some of whose family have been printers for more than 260 years at May 15, 2021 12:51 AM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 12:52 AM (H+h2h)
526
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at May 15, 2021 12:07 AM (BMmaB)
it is a weird situation no one wants war per se . But they train for it they are the experts. WE ask men to go into harms way, and at least back in the day, they wanted to do it. it is not like they love war, but that is what they were trained to do. It is an odd thing because war is almost always bad. But you train someone, they spend their life on this, and for sure when it goes down, they want to be be there.
Posted by: Quint at May 15, 2021 12:53 AM (x/IHv)
527
Came inside, opened thread and I just happen to be wearing an Alamo hat. What are the odds?
Posted by: NZFrank with an M2 at May 15, 2021 12:54 AM (UzGo/)
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 12:56 AM (H+h2h)
529
I was 14 when Star Wars came out. Everyone saw it, but I really don't remember anyone in my age group taking it seriously. It had cool visuals for the time and it moved right along and the space battle scenes were cool. But the storyline and the characters were corny retro and the space battles were just WW2 stuff only with spaceships. I was amazed to find out eventually that huge numbers of people were obsessed with the supposed deep aspects of it. To me Star Wars made Star Trek look super intellectual, and Star Trek was lower middle SF at best...
Posted by: azjaeger at May 15, 2021 12:57 AM (3/XaG)
533
Came inside, opened thread and I just happen to be wearing an Alamo hat. What are the odds?
Posted by: NZFrank with an M2
With an M2, your odds are pretty good.
Posted by: Miklosian Opinionations (Tonga) PLC at May 15, 2021 01:00 AM (QzkSJ)
534
Posted by: SFGoth at May 15, 2021 12:28 AM (KAi1n)
The Killing Fields was an awful movie. I wont' claim to know the history there, but even with the carnage, it had a lefty vibe. i recall taking my dad to to On Golden Pond and Electric Horseman. I in particular loved Electric Horseman.
But he had to really hold some stuff in. He hated Jane Fonda though I didn't fully get it. He was cool about it but I regret it. I did like Electric Horseman, but in the end it was not worth it. i was just a kid, so there is that. My dad was very kind, but those old wounds do not heal.
Posted by: Quint at May 15, 2021 01:00 AM (x/IHv)
535
Lots of content tonight, and I especially appreciate the stories of the Medal of Honor recipients.
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at May 15, 2021 01:01 AM (oUcR5)
536
Cosmic Intersection. I've become sensitive to those in my old age. They are never important, or significant, but interesting.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,
*glares with amusement from somewhere*
Posted by: Art Bell at May 15, 2021 01:02 AM (QzkSJ)
537What do you sue to screen them? Old Mama desperately needs something. She gets 40-50 spam/ripoff call per day.
Sometimes I pick up and cuss in Hungarian, but this amusing hobby does not really help. Posted by: Miklos from Mumbai Call Centre at May 15, 2021 12:02 AM (QzkSJ)
Try cancelling or suspending your service for a month. This happened to me when I changed land line services and the telemarketers dropped to zero after that
Posted by: Kindltot at May 15, 2021 01:02 AM (u0j5n)
538
I also had my GF talk to the telemarketer in Korean but that just got me Chinese robo calls after that
Posted by: Kindltot at May 15, 2021 01:03 AM (u0j5n)
539
Try cancelling or suspending your service for a month. This happened to me when I changed land line services and the telemarketers dropped to zero after that
Posted by: Kindltot
Hmmm
Posted by: Miklos, pressing the # key for Barberetttes at May 15, 2021 01:04 AM (QzkSJ)
Not taking the gd call if you don't recognise the number helps a great deal too...
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 01:06 AM (H+h2h)
541
I changed land line services and the telemarketers dropped to zero after that
Posted by: Kindltot at May 15, 2021 01:02 AM (u0j5n)
Only problem with that is the people you do want to hear from won't know your new number.
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at May 15, 2021 01:06 AM (oUcR5)
542
One of my favorite movies is Sgt. York. I have it on DVD i black & white. Is there a colorized version?
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at May 15, 2021 01:08 AM (oUcR5)
543
At a place I used to volunteer, one day an older guy - skinny, not tall, wearing an old golf hat - came in with a younger guy, was showing him around the exhibits. They didn't ask many questions and I didn't interact with them much.
Afterwards, head of the operation comes out, and asks whether I knew who the older guy was. No. Oh. MOH recipient, Vietnam, with a citation that leaves you slack-jawed (USMC infantry). I said I'd guess most of his neighbors don't even know his story - like most, he seemed like the kind who would never bring it up.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 01:10 AM (OTzUX)
544
As an aside, I note that Ft. Bragg, Ft. Benning, and Ft. Hood are all going to renamed by the Democrats.
then they are the jagoffs they always were. You have hundreds of thousands that served at Benning with pride. None of them knows a thing about Benning the soldier, because his service was non descript. All they will do is tear down with no good reason. I would say this will get them, but they have conrolll of everything. They will change all the names and the people who served will like it i guesss.
Posted by: Quint at May 15, 2021 01:10 AM (x/IHv)
545You forgitticus the "Nos" particus. osted by: Miklos, last of the Paleogliae at May 15, 2021 12:47 AM (QzkSJ)
Morituri nolumus mori
(I once posted that at my desk when I had a customer relations job. I took it down when someone came in looking for "Mr Morituri"
Posted by: Kindltot at May 15, 2021 01:11 AM (u0j5n)
546
Not taking the gd call if you don't recognise the number helps a great deal too...
Posted by: Zettai
Nope.
Call from ..Unavailable
The number shows a local number, but when I feel that I will answer, it is always with accent like Nikki Haley's grandparents.
Posted by: Miklos, happy to be assisting for your issue at May 15, 2021 01:11 AM (QzkSJ)
547
when someone came in looking for "Mr Morituri"
Posted by: Kindltot
I would have told them to wax off.
Posted by: Miklos, in the role of Mr. Miyagi at May 15, 2021 01:12 AM (QzkSJ)
The M247 Sergeant York self-propelled AA gun was the first (only?) weapons system named after an enlisted man... It didn't go into service, almost got a number of government observers killed during a demonstration firing...
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 01:13 AM (H+h2h)
549 The number shows a local number, but when I feel that I will answer, it is always with accent like Nikki Haley's grandparents.
Posted by: Miklos
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Happens here all of the time. I don't answer. If it is someone I know, they will leave a message, or I will pick up.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 15, 2021 01:13 AM (830x5)
550
The M247 Sergeant York self-propelled AA gun was the first (only?) weapons system named after an enlisted man... It didn't go into service, almost got a number of government observers killed during a demonstration firing...
Posted by: Zettai
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Sad that such a POS bore York's name.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 15, 2021 01:15 AM (830x5)
551
Hamas still going at it. Alerts in southern Israel.
Don't see how this can go on that much longer without the IDF taking territory.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 01:15 AM (OTzUX)
552Not taking the gd call if you don't recognise the number helps a great deal too...
I like to play with them. Especially the car warranty ones.
553
I had a call from an Indian-American lawyer and had to explain that where I worked was set up like a call center.
I came so close to telling him he could call me Kumar if it made him feel better.
Pretty cool guy too, but I just couldn't do it.
Posted by: Kindltot at May 15, 2021 01:16 AM (u0j5n)
554
like most, he seemed like the kind who would never bring it up.
Posted by: rhomboid
The old guys usually don't talk. My Grandfather was in the trenches in WWI (I am a late baby of a late baby).
He never spoke, but his buddy from then ( they farmed together for decades) told me about the machine guns, and, the gas. Especially the gas.
Posted by: Miklos, maybe that's why I studied history to Official Kollidge Level at May 15, 2021 01:18 AM (QzkSJ)
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If I'm not worth you leaving me a message, you're not worth me answering your call.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 15, 2021 01:18 AM (KAi1n)
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I was covering military tech at the time, but the Sgt. York was not one of my topics - but yeah, quite a fiasco. If only because of the project size involved with shipbuilding, I'd say the Navy has led for some time in procurement disasters.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 01:18 AM (OTzUX)
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Most people send a text, the only ones you know who call are are old school.
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at May 15, 2021 01:19 AM (oUcR5)
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Ozzy Osborn pissed on the Alamo while wearing his wife's dress, because she hid his clothes so he wouldn't go outside. He was fined $40 and banned from San Antonio until 1992 when he gifted them 10k, thus being forgiven.
Posted by: Jimco Industries at May 15, 2021 01:20 AM (buTO7)
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Don't see how this can go on that much longer without the IDF taking territory.
Posted by: rhomboid
Triple-bounced rubble ain't worth much.
The Mediterranean sea view, maybe.
Posted by: Miklos, being practical at May 15, 2021 01:21 AM (QzkSJ)
560Ozzy Osborn pissed on the Alamo while wearing his wife's dress, because she hid his clothes so he wouldn't go outside. He was fined $40 and banned from San Antonio until 1992 when he gifted them 10k, thus being forgiven.
There's talk of a cease-fire "within days", or so I've read...
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 01:23 AM (H+h2h)
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Israeli gunboats involved in yesterday's festivities, and several naval targets hit by airstrikes (Hamas does have naval assets - well, did have them).
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 01:23 AM (OTzUX)
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In the past Israel has observed (usually) a distinction between political and military/terrorist/intel leadership, in terms of targeting.
Given the comprehensive attack on Hamas leadership this week, such a distinction is important, practically speaking. Decapitation will leave nobody to agree to a ceasefire.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 01:26 AM (OTzUX)
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There's talk of a cease-fire "within days", or so I've read...
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 01:23 AM (H+h2h)
Cease fire or surrender?
Posted by: ALH, Sister Golden Hair at May 15, 2021 01:26 AM (oUcR5)
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Triple-bounced rubble ain't worth much.
The Mediterranean sea view, maybe.
Posted by: Miklos, being practical
From the infinity-edge pool, heh
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at May 15, 2021 01:26 AM (j6rEs)
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There's talk of a cease-fire "within days", or so I've read...
Posted by: Zettai
Always trust content from "sources".
Posted by: Miklos, former journalistero at May 15, 2021 01:27 AM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 15, 2021 01:29 AM (L2ZTs)
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Egypt's the main go-between for ceasefire talks but I've seen nothing about any progress there. Typically there'll be a ceasefire when the Palestinian side is desperate to stop the pounding they're taking, and the Israeli desire to finish their list of objectives is just slightly outweighed by the political pressure to stop - usually with foreign (US) pressure a big factor. Not sure in this situation. Lots of the normal factors are scrambled.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 01:29 AM (OTzUX)
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From the infinity-edge pool, heh
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings
Now see?
We can have nice things.
Posted by: Miklos, oddly non-Jew hating Christianisto at May 15, 2021 01:30 AM (QzkSJ)
571 Always trust content from "sources".
Posted by: Miklos
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Studies show that "sources" are reliable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 15, 2021 01:30 AM (WZ5i4)
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Goodnight all, thanks for the chat tonight.
Posted by: qdpsteve
YOU BROUGHT NO TACOS
Posted by: Miklos, feeling a bit peckish at May 15, 2021 01:31 AM (QzkSJ)
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Zettai there's some goings-on in the West Bank, but even more troubling, there've been riots in at least 3 Israeli towns - Acre, Lod, Nazareth - as well. In one, synagogues were burned. Causing me to pause and reflect on the musical question: has there EVER been a less well thought-out plan than ..... attacking synagogues .... in Israel?
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 01:31 AM (OTzUX)
RT is reporting that the IDF is deliberately "obliterating" "media" buildings on the Strip "to cover up the war crimes that will follow" (!)
Well, shit... Reckon the IDF just oughta call it even now...
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 01:38 AM (H+h2h)
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Studies show that "sources" are reliable.
Posted by: Mike Hammer
When I did that job (for Newsweek, which was a Big Deal then) it was amazing. From 1989-1996 I did the job. Without having spent a single dime or minute in J-School. Which amazed the arrogant and ignorant J-School people that would parachute in.
My only qualifications were speaking the local languages, having studied and lived there, and knowing some People. And able to write competent English.
Posted by: Miklos, insider on the outs at May 15, 2021 01:39 AM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Miklos, insider on the outs at May 15, 2021 01:39 AM
And that right there is a skill that few can master!
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 01:41 AM (H+h2h)
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And that right there is a skill that few can master!
Posted by: Zettai
U rite 'bout dat!
Posted by: Miklos, the rare expert in cajun English at May 15, 2021 01:43 AM (QzkSJ)
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Zettai well maybe some those "media" buildings have, I dunno, a few offices on the 3rd floor used by, oh, I dunno, *HAMAS's military wing*.
Actually the interesting pattern so far has been banks - Israel has taken out several buildings housing Hamas financial institutions.
I find it annoying if the ATM is down. Guess it could be worse!
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 01:43 AM (OTzUX)
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IIRC, the Arab states that have signed onto the Abe Accords aren't too thrilled with Jordan these days trying to ride the fence. There *is* a two-state solution after all. I wonder how much of what's motivating politics these days is a desire among the younger crowd of the Abe states, and the younger members of whoever rules them, to enjoy the fruits of modernity, at least from a material standpoint.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 15, 2021 01:43 AM (KAi1n)
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I'm sleepy Horde, I will catch you on some morning thread, be good to one another.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at May 15, 2021 01:44 AM (a4EWo)
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I find it annoying if the ATM is down. Guess it could be worse!
Posted by: rhomboid
The Third Obama administration will have to answer for ATM jobs lost or unsaved.
Posted by: Miklos, calling them on it at May 15, 2021 01:46 AM (QzkSJ)
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Miklos what I saw in an overseas gig was so discouraging - there were a handful of good American or European journalists, but generally the most professional in terms of no bias were the Indian guys working for the wires. Who were flabbergasted by the mindset and reporting of many western reporters. One BBC guy also, who dropped in for a brief rotation, came up to me furtively after about a week and said "what the hell is wrong with these people?".
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 01:47 AM (OTzUX)
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I will catch you on some morning thread, be good to one another.
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
Best of Sleepy Sleeps
Posted by: Miklos, leaving off the "!" because sleep at May 15, 2021 01:48 AM (QzkSJ)
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I find it annoying if the ATM is down. Guess it could be worse!
Posted by: rhomboid
Yeah, the ATM is functioning but you can't remember your password.
Posted by: SFGoth at May 15, 2021 01:51 AM (KAi1n)
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SFGoth, yep it's a very different region now WRT these things. Of course the essence of Jordan's regime is riding the tiger, it's all they do. They're no bigger fans of Persian/Shi'a hegemony than the UAE or Egypt, but there's that tricky little problem of being populated by Palestinians.
But with that I'll have to slip away and let the MidEast sort itself out til morning.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 15, 2021 01:51 AM (OTzUX)
589 Charter (Spectrum, they want to be called now) offers "NoMoRobo" with their voice service. It automatically rejects spam calls known to the system. It works fairly well. In some cases, it will drop the calls immediately. In other, it will flash "SPAM RISK" on the caller ID.
Many VoIP outfits include it as well. For cell, I see there is an "app" for that -- I don't know if there's anything for dumb phones (the only cell phone we'll ever have).
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 15, 2021 01:51 AM (Mzdiz)
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"what the hell is wrong with these people?".
Posted by: rhomboid
This:
They believe that they are smarter (in general they are above average)
They think they know more (they should, it's their job)
They don't make much money, and considering the above (as they do) is what puts the shit in their grits
Posted by: Miklos, obeying the Pixy rule of seven at May 15, 2021 01:52 AM (QzkSJ)
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"NoMoRobo" with their voice service. It automatically rejects spam calls known to the system. It works fairly well.
No.It.Does.Not.
Posted by: Miklos, testifying at May 15, 2021 01:53 AM (QzkSJ)
I've not had my mobile signed into Goolag for some months but its phone spam mitigation service still mostly works for me AND I DON'T KNOW WHY BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE IT ENABLED!! (I just checked!)
???
Posted by: Zettai at May 15, 2021 02:02 AM (H+h2h)
600 I just checked some of Charter's crap. They enabled this in-house Call Guard feature in Jan of 2021 and replaced the NoMoRobo which they were using.
It will block known "malicious" numbers completely, won't even ring, but other "suspicious" numbers get the "SPAM RISK" warning but ring.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 15, 2021 02:04 AM (Mzdiz)
The amusement-causing Tom Friedman "The semi-English speaking taxi driver said..." was used (and probably is still used) by many linguistically limited "journalists".
Posted by: Miklos, speaking without attribution at May 15, 2021 02:04 AM (QzkSJ)
I've been at my mom's since Wed after work, (son who stays here weekdays had minor emergency surgery) and yesterday there was an issue with the router. I couldn't connect. And of course, said son is my computer genius so I had to wait 'til I could talk to him.
Posted by: My Life is Insanity at May 15, 2021 04:32 AM (Z/jzm)
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Get worried if someone isn't where they are usually at
Also missed two days of work. Which actually was good timing since the tiling of the floor there is in full swing. Talk about a hassle. Not to mention the smell.
Posted by: My Life is Insanity at May 15, 2021 04:36 AM (Z/jzm)
Posted by: My Life is Insanity at May 15, 2021 04:37 AM (Z/jzm)
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Most construction doesn't bother me of course, flooring is the most disruption part of a project.
Posted by: Skip at May 15, 2021 04:45 AM (Cxk7w)
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We had 2 days of not getting to back 1/2 of store. Only access to our back room and main cooler was outside. Made for a lot of extra work.
Posted by: My Life is Insanity at May 15, 2021 04:55 AM (Z/jzm)
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They have flooring removed from the rest of store and will do the laying of it on Monday. Not sure how that is going to work since it's the side with the registers.
Whatever they use for the underlay has a smell that burns my lungs. Can't wait.
Posted by: My Life is Insanity at May 15, 2021 04:58 AM (Z/jzm)
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"Confederate slaveowners used the same logic to defend slavery as the Cato Institute uses to defend women living a life as human chattel in foreign sweatshops."
Spoken by someone who's never experienced subsistence farming as a lifestyle, and has bought Marxism hook, line and sinker.
The "dark satanic mills" never had a worker recruiting problem, because life in town as a factory hand was so much measurably better. Even in basic terms, such as food and shelter.
Posted by: SDN at May 15, 2021 07:18 AM (K9d/B)
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