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Free Speech For Me But Not For Thee: The Mantra Of The Left
Free speech is, along with a few other apparently antiquated ideas like the inalienable right to self defense, property rights, and equality under the law is under attack by the (illegitimate) Biden administration.
The idea that words are illegal is firmly rooted in monarchist and totalitarian visions of governance, and it sure does look like we just got both of those. Free Ricky VaughnBiden’s Department of Justice is now prosecuting formerly prolific, online personality, Ricky Vaughn (A.K.A. Douglass Mackey) for illegal memes. This is a hammer blow to the First Amendment and a blatantly political prosecution.A younger and more naive version of your writer would have assumed that The Supreme Court would gleefully smack this obscenity, but as the article points out, our current political divide includes wildly different opinions of what what constitutes free speech, and based on recent indications of the court's cowardice, one should not be hopeful. The restrictions on speech in a free society should be carefully constructed to be limited in scope, and difficult to use. But over the last two or three generations, the thoroughly co-opted American Academia has produced an ocean of ignoramuses who simply do not know the history of speech and how dangerous speech restrictions have been during much of human history. So mean speech and nasty speech and disturbing speech has become indistinguishable from speech that should be controlled. In fact, an important and controlling precedent, Brandenburg v. Ohio held that speech must be allowed "except where such advocacy is directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action." Even in the labyrinthine and opaque minds of the justices of the Supreme Court, it should be abundantly clear that suggesting to a bunch of dimwits that they should vote by text does not rise to anywhere near that definition. And the use of an anti-KKK statute is even more offensive! But as has been pointed out so many times in the recent past, their violence is speech, and our speech is violence. What is so troubling is that significant restrictions on speech will often lead to violence, because without the natural right of political expression, what is left?
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Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 12:01 PM (Cxk7w)
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The greatest inauguration speech ever all about unity was a but silence the conservatives anywhere they can be.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 12:02 PM (Cxk7w)
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top ten
Posted by: Bunkerintheburbs at January 31, 2021 12:03 PM (uo2jO)
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As someone once wrote here,
Free speech is both a warning and a safety valve.
Eliminate that, and shit stays silent.
Till it blows.
Free speech is both a warning and a safety valve.
Eliminate that, and shit stays silent.
Till it blows.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:03 PM (S7VTO)
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If you remove a man's tongue, he may no longer speak.
But, he can still think.
And act on those thoughts.
But, he can still think.
And act on those thoughts.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:04 PM (S7VTO)
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Forget about the curve ball, Ricky, give him the heater.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2021 12:05 PM (kTF2Z)
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say wuhan flu and illegal immigrant because the president say you can't
say wuhan flu and illegal immigrant because the president say you can't
Posted by: will choose a nic later at January 31, 2021 12:06 PM (r4bSV)
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"Illegal memes"....what? they're not funny?
Posted by: BignJames at January 31, 2021 12:06 PM (AwYPR)
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It's been said by a few bloggers I have read that squelch all conservatives every way and the recourse to be heard is limited to violence. I have already wrote some conservative is going to be totally silenced, jobless or homeless and sadly someone will pay for it, innocent or not.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 12:06 PM (Cxk7w)
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Village Idiot's Apprentice
Very prescient and cogent thoughts. Thank you.
There is more I could say. Not here.
Very prescient and cogent thoughts. Thank you.
There is more I could say. Not here.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:06 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:07 PM (u82oZ)
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As someone else here also once said..
Silencing speech and thinking all is well is about the same as removing your home's smoke detectors.
And thinking that you are safe from fire.
Silencing speech and thinking all is well is about the same as removing your home's smoke detectors.
And thinking that you are safe from fire.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:08 PM (S7VTO)
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Someone more intelligent than I, please give me some historical perspective on when a divide as great as the one we now face, has been bridged by dialogue?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * pax Dei at January 31, 2021 12:09 PM (5GzXG)
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Skip
We already have casualties. Dead, displaced, & Un-people.
These reactionaries are right out of a tribal hierarchy in the Stone Age.
The Left are barbarians.
We already have casualties. Dead, displaced, & Un-people.
These reactionaries are right out of a tribal hierarchy in the Stone Age.
The Left are barbarians.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:09 PM (u82oZ)
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I have been effectively muzzled. I have even contacted a famous lawyer about it.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2021 12:09 PM (85Gof)
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9 It's been said by a few bloggers I have read that squelch all conservatives every way and the recourse to be heard is limited to violence. I have already wrote some conservative is going to be totally silenced, jobless or homeless and sadly someone will pay for it, innocent or not.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 12:06 PM (Cxk7w)
JFK said it best.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."
They might think that they are protecting their narratives, but all they're doing is limiting the ways that other people might seek redress from their insane worldview and endless lies.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 12:06 PM (Cxk7w)
JFK said it best.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."
They might think that they are protecting their narratives, but all they're doing is limiting the ways that other people might seek redress from their insane worldview and endless lies.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at January 31, 2021 12:09 PM (Msrhc)
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Someone more intelligent than I, please give me some historical perspective on when a divide as great as the one we now face, has been bridged by dialogue?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * pax Dei at January 31, 2021 12:09 PM (5GzXG)
ever hear the expression "Might makes Right"?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * pax Dei at January 31, 2021 12:09 PM (5GzXG)
ever hear the expression "Might makes Right"?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2021 12:10 PM (85Gof)
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"ever hear the expression "Might makes Right"?
Ever hear the expression 'Quantity is it's own quality'?
Ever hear the expression 'Quantity is it's own quality'?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:11 PM (S7VTO)
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Sock Monkey * pax Dei
Dialog, no. Actions yes. The US of A did it at the start, except for self-selecting Tories moving to Canada after the Treaty of Paris. We allowed them to ship out.
And in 5 years, we were 13 States, with a weak Federal Government, until the Constitution with George Washington at the head of the effort.
Dialog, no. Actions yes. The US of A did it at the start, except for self-selecting Tories moving to Canada after the Treaty of Paris. We allowed them to ship out.
And in 5 years, we were 13 States, with a weak Federal Government, until the Constitution with George Washington at the head of the effort.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:11 PM (u82oZ)
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With doj claiming Oathkeepers is a militia, any belief in sanity is lost.
Posted by: EveR at January 31, 2021 12:12 PM (R0z7P)
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Let's hear it for the fearless ham and eggers at the FBI who charged in and arrested this deadly meme maker!
Political speech is, supposedly, the MOST protected by the first amendment.
Now, not so much. It's gonna be a long 70 years.
Political speech is, supposedly, the MOST protected by the first amendment.
Now, not so much. It's gonna be a long 70 years.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 12:12 PM (ZfRYq)
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Ever hear the expression 'Quantity is it's own quality'?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:11 PM (S7VTO)
As in the T-34 Tank?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:11 PM (S7VTO)
As in the T-34 Tank?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2021 12:12 PM (85Gof)
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To paraphrase Tyrion Lannister, if you cut out a man's tongue, it just means you're afraid of what he has to say.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2021 12:12 PM (kTF2Z)
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We need leadership.
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:12 PM (zr5Kq)
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ever hear the expression "Might makes Right"?
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Ever hear the expression I'm dialed in?
Posted by: Nevergiveup
Ever hear the expression I'm dialed in?
Posted by: Sock Monkey * pax Dei at January 31, 2021 12:12 PM (5GzXG)
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slowly at first, then much faster
slowly at first, then much faster
Posted by: will choose a nic later at January 31, 2021 12:12 PM (r4bSV)
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Nevergiveup
Good morning, Sir.
Go get them! Make them pay cash money to your lawyer, and some to you.
Good morning, Sir.
Go get them! Make them pay cash money to your lawyer, and some to you.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:13 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:13 PM (S7VTO)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at January 31, 2021 12:13 PM (aTBvH)
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It's useless to point out the hypocrisy and inconsistencies of the Left. Not only don't they care, they even revel in them. The greater the dissonance between their words and actions, the more it proves their power over Deplorable like you.
It's useless to point out the hypocrisy and inconsistencies of the Left. Not only don't they care, they even revel in them. The greater the dissonance between their words and actions, the more it proves their power over Deplorable like you.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:13 PM (mht8P)
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a divide as great as the one we now face, has been
bridged by dialogue?
There are examples of when a strict, federal system was implemented. So each culture could live in its own areas by its own rules while nominally still being part of one political state.
But usually what happens next with where we are is some sort of civil war.
bridged by dialogue?
There are examples of when a strict, federal system was implemented. So each culture could live in its own areas by its own rules while nominally still being part of one political state.
But usually what happens next with where we are is some sort of civil war.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2021 12:13 PM (qlFIA)
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By "we", I mean free thinking people who know how totalitarianism, socialism and fascism evolves and what it looks like.
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:13 PM (zr5Kq)
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I have already wrote some conservative is going to be totally silenced, jobless or homeless and sadly someone will pay for it, innocent or not.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 12:06 PM (Cxk7w)
You are right Skip.
Wait until 5 who are silenced get together and act on it.
Ten
Fifty
More.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 12:06 PM (Cxk7w)
You are right Skip.
Wait until 5 who are silenced get together and act on it.
Ten
Fifty
More.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 31, 2021 12:13 PM (axyOa)
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runner
Each one of us is a leader. We need secure comms, or a coordinated go date. Piecemeal actions do not cut it. We have to act as a cleansing flood.
Each one of us is a leader. We need secure comms, or a coordinated go date. Piecemeal actions do not cut it. We have to act as a cleansing flood.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:14 PM (u82oZ)
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The greater the dissonance between their words and actions, the more it proves their power over Deplorable like you.
This. They don't believe in any of the shit they claim to believe in and get erotically excited when they can force you to mouth the words that both you and they know are bullshit.
This. They don't believe in any of the shit they claim to believe in and get erotically excited when they can force you to mouth the words that both you and they know are bullshit.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2021 12:14 PM (qlFIA)
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Starting to snow here in NW Philadelphia suburbs
This is Leftism through and through every time it's been tried
This is Leftism through and through every time it's been tried
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 12:14 PM (Cxk7w)
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Nevergiveup
Good morning, Sir.
Go get them! Make them pay cash money to your lawyer, and some to you.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:13 PM (u82oZ)
I met him in my Duties in The Navy. I am in not trouble, yet. Contacted him because I am worried about what might happen going forward. We are in correspondence for both our mutual benfits
Good morning, Sir.
Go get them! Make them pay cash money to your lawyer, and some to you.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:13 PM (u82oZ)
I met him in my Duties in The Navy. I am in not trouble, yet. Contacted him because I am worried about what might happen going forward. We are in correspondence for both our mutual benfits
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2021 12:14 PM (85Gof)
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"To paraphrase Tyrion Lannister, if you cut out a man's tongue, it just means you're afraid of what he has to say."
That short shit was a good thinker.
And wencher, too.
That short shit was a good thinker.
And wencher, too.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:14 PM (S7VTO)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:15 PM (u82oZ)
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There is some leftwing activist that literally did the same thing as the meme lord here. Probesic (sp?) even forwarded her bragging about doing it on twitter and...crickets.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2021 12:16 PM (qlFIA)
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Yeah - free Ricky Vaughan. Play WILD THING!!
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at January 31, 2021 12:16 PM (mZUr4)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:16 PM (u82oZ)
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because without the natural right of political expression, what is left?
Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM
The Founders would have revolted under far, far less onerous conditions. Benjamin Franklin would have recommended we simply hand the country back to the current monarch of Britain, as the devolved state shows self-governance has clearly failed.
Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM
The Founders would have revolted under far, far less onerous conditions. Benjamin Franklin would have recommended we simply hand the country back to the current monarch of Britain, as the devolved state shows self-governance has clearly failed.
Posted by: trev006 at January 31, 2021 12:16 PM (82Qwa)
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Wait until 5 who are silenced get together and act on it.
Ten
Fifty
More.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 31, 2021 12:13 PM (axyOa)
I'm sure they'll use Google accounts and be infiltrated the first day. Lone ronin: that's the wave of the future.
Ten
Fifty
More.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 31, 2021 12:13 PM (axyOa)
I'm sure they'll use Google accounts and be infiltrated the first day. Lone ronin: that's the wave of the future.
Posted by: trev006 at January 31, 2021 12:17 PM (82Qwa)
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A willowed comment (#569) I want to respond to.
The left has cornered the market on words. They own most all of the means of production and transportation of words. They can now snap words into and out of existence at will. "Intellectuals" of the right are always battling last century's foes. Breitbart was the first and greatest at trying to pull us into the present.
Posted by: banana Dream
Right sentiment but what it's missing is that "the Right" is simply mentally incapable of understanding "the Left" when it comes to communication and transmission of information/thoughts/concepts by the use of oral and written language. "The Right" (I use these terms monolithically for a purpose) has no awareness, let along understanding, of semiotics and things like that. "The Right" just thinks "The Left" is stupid. Yet who is in ascendance?
The left has cornered the market on words. They own most all of the means of production and transportation of words. They can now snap words into and out of existence at will. "Intellectuals" of the right are always battling last century's foes. Breitbart was the first and greatest at trying to pull us into the present.
Posted by: banana Dream
Right sentiment but what it's missing is that "the Right" is simply mentally incapable of understanding "the Left" when it comes to communication and transmission of information/thoughts/concepts by the use of oral and written language. "The Right" (I use these terms monolithically for a purpose) has no awareness, let along understanding, of semiotics and things like that. "The Right" just thinks "The Left" is stupid. Yet who is in ascendance?
Posted by: SFGoth at January 31, 2021 12:17 PM (KAi1n)
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By the way this isn't going to end.
The left believes they can usher in utopia. And if it doesn't happen its because someone doing wrong things. And once they stop everyone from doing wrong things and utopia still doesn't come well...it must be because of wrong thought.
And the only way to deal with wrong thought is to get rid of the wrong thinkers.
The left believes they can usher in utopia. And if it doesn't happen its because someone doing wrong things. And once they stop everyone from doing wrong things and utopia still doesn't come well...it must be because of wrong thought.
And the only way to deal with wrong thought is to get rid of the wrong thinkers.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2021 12:17 PM (qlFIA)
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"To paraphrase Tyrion Lannister, if you cut out a man's tongue, it just means you're afraid of what he has to say."
That short shit was a good thinker.
And wencher, too.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:14 PM (S7VTO)
========
"I drink and I know things. That's what I do."
That short shit was a good thinker.
And wencher, too.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:14 PM (S7VTO)
========
"I drink and I know things. That's what I do."
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at January 31, 2021 12:18 PM (mZUr4)
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We Mutually Pledge To Each Other Our Lives, Our Fortunes, And Our Sacred Honor.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2021 12:18 PM (85Gof)
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guys, guys, guys, The FBI is on it, they have infiltrated groups and are planting ideas so they can arrest the bad americans
guys, guys, guys, The FBI is on it, they have infiltrated groups and are planting ideas so they can arrest the bad americans
Posted by: will choose a nic later at January 31, 2021 12:18 PM (r4bSV)
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CBD
A timely topic. Thank you.
A timely topic. Thank you.
Posted by: the FBI at January 31, 2021 12:18 PM (d6he9)
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Each one of us is a leader. We need secure comms, or a coordinated go date. Piecemeal actions do not cut it. We have to act as a cleansing flood.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:14 PM (u82oZ)
I am thinking of Reagan. How he was able to carry an idea and work politically to coalesce people around it.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:14 PM (u82oZ)
I am thinking of Reagan. How he was able to carry an idea and work politically to coalesce people around it.
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:18 PM (zr5Kq)
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Ricky Vaughan - America's second political prisoner? After that guy Obama threw in jail for claiming he made the video that riled up AQ to attack the Libyan embassy
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2021 12:19 PM (qlFIA)
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We entered the era of political persecution and incarceration.
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:19 PM (zr5Kq)
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I am thinking of Reagan. How he was able to carry an idea and work politically to coalesce people around it.
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:18 PM (zr5Kq)
Times have changed. There is not dialogue, no meeting of the minds, no nothing. Only ignorance, revisionist history, and lies
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:18 PM (zr5Kq)
Times have changed. There is not dialogue, no meeting of the minds, no nothing. Only ignorance, revisionist history, and lies
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2021 12:20 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 12:20 PM (XSoJN)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:20 PM (u82oZ)
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What is the JFK quote? Those that do not allow peaceful decent , force violent decent. or, something along those lines...too lazy to look it up. Off to get a beer...
Posted by: Paladin at January 31, 2021 12:21 PM (Hk80n)
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"We entered the era of political persecution and incarceration."
Ya think?
Ask Ashli Babbett's widower
Ya think?
Ask Ashli Babbett's widower
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:21 PM (S7VTO)
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they guy infront of me in court got 90 days in jail for playing music too loud in an apartments
80 days suspended though
they guy infront of me in court got 90 days in jail for playing music too loud in an apartments
80 days suspended though
Posted by: will choose a nic later at January 31, 2021 12:21 PM (r4bSV)
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:22 PM (oQ94s)
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If we don't fight this to the bitter end, everything we think, say & do will become illegal.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 12:22 PM (jvt6t)
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Jeez, NC has changed their online vehicle renewal to mimic you "chatting" to a customer service agent. It's all yes/no and canned responses, but the screen scrolls down and it presents itself as a chat.
I guess people were too stupid to fill out a page that says name, address, tag number, etc.
Or they didn't find the DMV website exciting enough. Because being entertained is crucial in every single moment of our lives, you know.
I guess people were too stupid to fill out a page that says name, address, tag number, etc.
Or they didn't find the DMV website exciting enough. Because being entertained is crucial in every single moment of our lives, you know.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 12:23 PM (XSoJN)
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will choose a nic later
Yup. They fancy themselves a Praetorian Guard. The consequences of their action are Anti-Civilization, and especially Anti-American ideas.
Yup. They fancy themselves a Praetorian Guard. The consequences of their action are Anti-Civilization, and especially Anti-American ideas.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:23 PM (u82oZ)
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Ricky Vaughan - America's second political prisoner? After that guy Obama threw in jail for claiming he made the video that riled up AQ to attack the Libyan embassy
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2021 12:19 PM (qlFIA)
Julian Assange may argue about the your numbering, but then he's still not yet in American custody.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2021 12:19 PM (qlFIA)
Julian Assange may argue about the your numbering, but then he's still not yet in American custody.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:25 PM (oQ94s)
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JFK said it best.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."
That was it...sorry, did not reed the comments, my bad.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable."
That was it...sorry, did not reed the comments, my bad.
Posted by: Paladin at January 31, 2021 12:25 PM (Hk80n)
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Related, someone in the morning thread posted about a UCF professor who was fired because he pointed out that being protected from all criticism prevents particular populations from developing crucial social skills necessary to succeed in life.
Which is a great observation, so naturally he was fired.
Which is a great observation, so naturally he was fired.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 12:25 PM (XSoJN)
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Political prisoners, censorship, propaganda....get ready for the knocks on the door in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at January 31, 2021 12:25 PM (uxJPn)
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:With doj claiming Oathkeepers is a militia, any belief in sanity is lost.
Posted by: EveR "
I've been seeing them mentioned by MSM as a possible terrorists threat and lumped with Nazis and KKK. Seriously.
This is how you create an an actual armed insurrection. It's almost like they want one.
:With doj claiming Oathkeepers is a militia, any belief in sanity is lost.
Posted by: EveR "
I've been seeing them mentioned by MSM as a possible terrorists threat and lumped with Nazis and KKK. Seriously.
This is how you create an an actual armed insurrection. It's almost like they want one.
Posted by: Ripley at January 31, 2021 12:25 PM (MxEKc)
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This just days after Clinesmith was given probation for his crimes.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 31, 2021 12:26 PM (VWp7G)
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What is the JFK quote? Those that do not allow peaceful decent , force violent decent. or, something along those lines...too lazy to look it up. Off to get a beer...
Posted by: Paladin at January 31, 2021 12:21 PM (Hk80n)
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
Posted by: Paladin at January 31, 2021 12:21 PM (Hk80n)
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2021 12:27 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 31, 2021 12:27 PM (R/m4+)
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Our Vice President-Installed suggested that the Knights of Columbus was an extremist organization.
Our Vice President-Installed suggested that the Knights of Columbus was an extremist organization.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:27 PM (mht8P)
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BurtTC
The US Government has already crashed right through three of my four big, thick red lines.
But the action types are few on the ground, so far.
When an enemy is committing a blunder, let them.
We are forearmed. Plan with people you can trust.
The US Government has already crashed right through three of my four big, thick red lines.
But the action types are few on the ground, so far.
When an enemy is committing a blunder, let them.
We are forearmed. Plan with people you can trust.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:27 PM (u82oZ)
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Meghan McCain & Van Jones Release Documentary Seeking To Bridge Political Divide
"The Reunited States"
www.weaselzippers.us/?p=463600
Meghan McCain & Van Jones Release Documentary Seeking To Bridge Political Divide
"The Reunited States"
www.weaselzippers.us/?p=463600
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2021 12:27 PM (63Dwl)
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Our Vice President-Installed suggested that the Knights of Columbus was an extremist organization.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
I wish.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
I wish.
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 12:27 PM (Xih1H)
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I think we've diagnosed the problem.
Now what.
Posted by: BurtTC
We wait. We compartmentalize our outrage. We prepare. I think most of us will recognize the red line and fully realize when it has been crossed. Then we act.
Now what.
Posted by: BurtTC
We wait. We compartmentalize our outrage. We prepare. I think most of us will recognize the red line and fully realize when it has been crossed. Then we act.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * pax Dei at January 31, 2021 12:28 PM (5GzXG)
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Internet platforms censoring and deplatforming people, with government approval. The right to peaceably assemble shut down at the point of National Guardsmen's rifles. Government enforcement agencies targeting platforms and people for expressing unapproved viewpoints.
This is not going anywhere good.
This is not going anywhere good.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at January 31, 2021 12:28 PM (nakwk)
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What's going to stop them ?
They have been moving forward from success to success at an ever-increasing rate until here we are.
They have been moving forward from success to success at an ever-increasing rate until here we are.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez at January 31, 2021 12:28 PM (PpU3N)
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Looks like I'll be shopping even more at Publix since it's been reported that the heiress to the fortune donated $300,000 to the Save America rally.
Posted by: (fly) at January 31, 2021 12:28 PM (wQX0G)
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71 How soon before they arrest Maxine Waters?
Hope they let her keep her weave in the joint....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 31, 2021 12:27 PM (R/m4+)
It will be tried separately.
Hope they let her keep her weave in the joint....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 31, 2021 12:27 PM (R/m4+)
It will be tried separately.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at January 31, 2021 12:29 PM (nakwk)
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Oathkeepers are terrorists, and BLM/antifa are ideas.
Also this is a great way to purge law enforcement of wrong-thinkers, which is probably the point.
Also this is a great way to purge law enforcement of wrong-thinkers, which is probably the point.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 12:29 PM (XSoJN)
82
This is how you create an an actual armed insurrection. It's almost like they want one.
Posted by: Ripley at January 31, 2021 12:25 PM (MxEKc)
They do want one.
They think they'll win it, and it'll give them license to impose a police state.
Posted by: Ripley at January 31, 2021 12:25 PM (MxEKc)
They do want one.
They think they'll win it, and it'll give them license to impose a police state.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at January 31, 2021 12:29 PM (Msrhc)
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Political prisoners, censorship, propaganda....get ready for the knocks on the door in the middle of the night.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at January 31, 2021 12:25 PM (uxJPn)
My sincerest recommendation: Get out of the cities.
As soon as you can.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at January 31, 2021 12:25 PM (uxJPn)
My sincerest recommendation: Get out of the cities.
As soon as you can.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:29 PM (oQ94s)
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Ripley
Remember where their schwerpunkt is.
And if needed, make the Red Army in Berlin say "Whoa! That was too harsh."
Remember where their schwerpunkt is.
And if needed, make the Red Army in Berlin say "Whoa! That was too harsh."
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:29 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:30 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: The GOPe at January 31, 2021 12:30 PM (r4bSV)
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They think they'll win it, and it'll give them license to impose a police state.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at January 31, 2021 12:29 PM (Msrhc)
=================
Already live in one. It's just going to get worse.
We will either hang together or hang separately.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at January 31, 2021 12:29 PM (Msrhc)
=================
Already live in one. It's just going to get worse.
We will either hang together or hang separately.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 12:30 PM (jvt6t)
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86
VOTE HARDER !
and send money to stop the liberal Ds anti american agenda ...
Posted by: The GOPe at January 31, 2021 12:30 PM (r4bSV)
Soon they'll be asking for $5,000 to cover all modalities.
VOTE HARDER !
and send money to stop the liberal Ds anti american agenda ...
Posted by: The GOPe at January 31, 2021 12:30 PM (r4bSV)
Soon they'll be asking for $5,000 to cover all modalities.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at January 31, 2021 12:31 PM (nakwk)
89
"being protected from all criticism prevents particular populations from developing crucial social skills necessary to succeed in life. "
There is a disease or condition where an individual is incapable of feeling pain.
I don't remember the name of it.
But, those individuals have a very short life expectancy.
A life without negative feedback is a short life indeed.
There is a disease or condition where an individual is incapable of feeling pain.
I don't remember the name of it.
But, those individuals have a very short life expectancy.
A life without negative feedback is a short life indeed.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:31 PM (S7VTO)
90
Those memes are hurtful and raycist. *his*
Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at January 31, 2021 12:31 PM (W4eKo)
91
correction...*hic*
Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at January 31, 2021 12:32 PM (W4eKo)
92
Trump did that. Until he was stopped.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:20 PM (u82oZ)
He did some things. Reagan spent more time playing political games - union leader, governor. Trump is a hard-hitting businessman. We need a combo.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:20 PM (u82oZ)
He did some things. Reagan spent more time playing political games - union leader, governor. Trump is a hard-hitting businessman. We need a combo.
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:32 PM (zr5Kq)
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How soon before they arrest Maxine Waters?
***
Let her earn her freedom. Give her a handfull of dollars and ten dollars in loose coins.
Tell her she's got 20 seconds to make change for a $3.27 charge and hand her a $5 bill.
***
Let her earn her freedom. Give her a handfull of dollars and ten dollars in loose coins.
Tell her she's got 20 seconds to make change for a $3.27 charge and hand her a $5 bill.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 12:32 PM (XSoJN)
94
everything that is bad is spawned from the corruption of the media
until that is remedied, nothing will change for the better
it will most likely get worse
until that is remedied, nothing will change for the better
it will most likely get worse
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 12:32 PM (zZxh0)
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An AoS poster who is on the Philly police force, said that 100 of his fellow police are under investigation because they attended the Trump rally.
Apparently the right to peaceably assemble and walk down the highway - enshrined in a court decision allowing Martin Luther King and his followers to walk down a public highway - is now something that puts even the police under suspicion.
I don't know how we got here, but the fan is approaching the shit at warp speed.
An AoS poster who is on the Philly police force, said that 100 of his fellow police are under investigation because they attended the Trump rally.
Apparently the right to peaceably assemble and walk down the highway - enshrined in a court decision allowing Martin Luther King and his followers to walk down a public highway - is now something that puts even the police under suspicion.
I don't know how we got here, but the fan is approaching the shit at warp speed.
Posted by: Winston Smith at January 31, 2021 12:33 PM (N/gDA)
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Political prisoners, censorship, propaganda....get ready for the knocks on the door in the middle of the night.
yes, why not
yes, why not
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:33 PM (zr5Kq)
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GOPe
VOTE HARDER ! and send money to stop the liberal Ds anti American agenda ...
LOL.
I'm over that. Done. No more. Finished with those REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTORS.
VOTE HARDER ! and send money to stop the liberal Ds anti American agenda ...
LOL.
I'm over that. Done. No more. Finished with those REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTORS.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:33 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 12:33 PM (jvt6t)
99
"The Right" just thinks "The Left" is stupid. Yet who is in ascendance?"
The masses on the left ARE stupid, or at best, massively deceived. They swallow most of the obvious agitprop, and just want the best deal on their new phone or best streaming services. --- ..
The Smart "leftists" are the Bill Ayers types, but up the chain from that are the shadow men that manipulate us all, get the bailouts for billionaires, bribe/threaten/kill those in their way. These are the smart (evil) guys ... they are not really "leftist ideologues", imo. Not at the very top. --- ..
Just below them, many delude themselves that Global Government is best ... and they are willing to destroy man's free will (liberties) to get there. A world of obedient sheep is fine with them.
The masses on the left ARE stupid, or at best, massively deceived. They swallow most of the obvious agitprop, and just want the best deal on their new phone or best streaming services. --- ..
The Smart "leftists" are the Bill Ayers types, but up the chain from that are the shadow men that manipulate us all, get the bailouts for billionaires, bribe/threaten/kill those in their way. These are the smart (evil) guys ... they are not really "leftist ideologues", imo. Not at the very top. --- ..
Just below them, many delude themselves that Global Government is best ... and they are willing to destroy man's free will (liberties) to get there. A world of obedient sheep is fine with them.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (Cus5s)
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I wonder if the ham & egrets at the FBI realize that the powers that be are sending them on predawn raise in the hopes that one of them gets killed.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (kTF2Z)
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Internet platforms censoring and deplatforming people, with government approval. The right to peaceably assemble shut down at the point of National Guardsmen's rifles. Government enforcement agencies targeting platforms and people for expressing unapproved viewpoints.
This is not going anywhere good.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at January 31, 2021 12:28 PM (nakwk)
I think it's worth pointing out, these are NOT the actions of a people who see themselves as winning. One of their greatest fears is that they can't shut everything down, and it's unrealistic to believe they can.
It doesn't mean they won't try, and that things won't keep getting uglier while they do, but ultimately their efforts are futile. What comes next though, I can't predict.
This is not going anywhere good.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at January 31, 2021 12:28 PM (nakwk)
I think it's worth pointing out, these are NOT the actions of a people who see themselves as winning. One of their greatest fears is that they can't shut everything down, and it's unrealistic to believe they can.
It doesn't mean they won't try, and that things won't keep getting uglier while they do, but ultimately their efforts are futile. What comes next though, I can't predict.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (oQ94s)
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Ha, ha. I'm watching a documentary discussing something from the fifties and they're showing a piece of paper in a typewriter that an actor has just been typing. While the font sorta looks like a serifed typewriter font, it's clearly a computer font as there's kerning clearly evident between all of the characters and the characters themselves aren't monospaced. What? The actor couldn't master typing the two sentences partially visible on the screen even though he'd been banging away at the keys ten seconds earlier?? Either that or it's one of those TX TANG typewriters that produces the same results as a $40,000 era-correct typesetting machine.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (d6he9)
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Mrs Doof sent me this link yesterday.
https://mol.im/a/9205405
Daily Mail (UK) article - "The very divisive president: Joe Biden has unleashed a wave of wokery in his first ten days that will enrage millions"
Was hoping to send it to JJ for his Morning Report but I can't seem to find his Co tact info.
https://mol.im/a/9205405
Daily Mail (UK) article - "The very divisive president: Joe Biden has unleashed a wave of wokery in his first ten days that will enrage millions"
Was hoping to send it to JJ for his Morning Report but I can't seem to find his Co tact info.
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (mZUr4)
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>>> Our Vice President-Installed suggested that the Knights of Columbus was an extremist organization.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:27 PM (mht8P)
I've always thought the KoC should have got into the tiny cars driving around in parades business like the Shriners. No one's ever gonna put pressure on the Shriners out of fear of being stampeded by a thousand tiny little cars with lawnmower engines. Aggressive fish frying methods? Come on KoC!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:27 PM (mht8P)
I've always thought the KoC should have got into the tiny cars driving around in parades business like the Shriners. No one's ever gonna put pressure on the Shriners out of fear of being stampeded by a thousand tiny little cars with lawnmower engines. Aggressive fish frying methods? Come on KoC!
Posted by: banana Dream at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (J53DX)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (u82oZ)
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Internet platforms censoring and deplatforming people, with government approval. The right to peaceably assemble shut down at the point of National Guardsmen's rifles. Government enforcement agencies targeting platforms and people for expressing unapproved viewpoints.
This is not going anywhere good.
Posted by: Insomniac
When is Ashlii's funeral?
This is not going anywhere good.
Posted by: Insomniac
When is Ashlii's funeral?
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (Xih1H)
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for those of you who have stated that jury nullification is the way to stop unjust courts and prosecution, i submit that the second time that happens the judge or government will pass or discover a law that allows a jury member to be removed until a suitable one can be found.
or the do the old reliable and declare a mistrial and keep the person in legal limbo.
or the do the old reliable and declare a mistrial and keep the person in legal limbo.
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (vglmF)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:35 PM (u82oZ)
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Our Vice President-Installed suggested that the Knights of Columbus was an extremist organization.
****
The Shriners are the hardcore ones.
****
The Shriners are the hardcore ones.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 12:36 PM (XSoJN)
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OK. I get that. Who do we have on deck?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (u82oZ)
Exactly my point.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (u82oZ)
Exactly my point.
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:36 PM (zr5Kq)
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Stupid autocucumber
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2021 12:37 PM (kTF2Z)
112
The Shriners are the hardcore ones.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 12:36 PM (XSoJN)
no doubt their charity hospitals have long since served only white children.
The Shriners are the hardcore ones.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 12:36 PM (XSoJN)
no doubt their charity hospitals have long since served only white children.
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:37 PM (vglmF)
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>>>Meghan McCain & Van Jones Release Documentary Seeking To Bridge Political Divide
Well played, Domenech. /eyeroll
Well played, Domenech. /eyeroll
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 31, 2021 12:37 PM (VWp7G)
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no doubt their charity hospitals have long since served only rich white children.
*Suggested edit
*Suggested edit
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:38 PM (S7VTO)
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G'morning, Horde.
Zero Hedge says the stock market, having been exposed as a racket designed entirely to enrich the elite, is going to crash.
Am I wrong to hope so?
Zero Hedge says the stock market, having been exposed as a racket designed entirely to enrich the elite, is going to crash.
Am I wrong to hope so?
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 12:38 PM (XxJt1)
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This is how you create an an actual armed insurrection. It's almost like they want one.
Of course they want one. They have the government, the military, the police and the courts on their side. One uprising and they will squash dissent, and get onto Living in the Commie Paradise, unhindered by dissenting voices.
Of course they want one. They have the government, the military, the police and the courts on their side. One uprising and they will squash dissent, and get onto Living in the Commie Paradise, unhindered by dissenting voices.
Posted by: shibumi at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (tjZg/)
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I think it's worth pointing out, these are NOT the actions of a people who see themselves as winning. One of their greatest fears is that they can't shut everything down, and it's unrealistic to believe they can.
....
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (oQ94s)
I disagree. These are the actions of people who have taken power and will not relinquish it.
....
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (oQ94s)
I disagree. These are the actions of people who have taken power and will not relinquish it.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (ZfRYq)
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OK. I get that. Who do we have on deck?
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (u82oZ)
"THEY" are trying to make an example of PDT so no one will ever again want to pledge their lives, families, or fortunes to lead America out of the swamp again
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (u82oZ)
"THEY" are trying to make an example of PDT so no one will ever again want to pledge their lives, families, or fortunes to lead America out of the swamp again
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (85Gof)
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i saw on zerohedge today there was some kind of run on silver- akin to what happened with gamestop thing.
wonder when the powers that be decide they've had enough and turn it off?
wonder when the powers that be decide they've had enough and turn it off?
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (vglmF)
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The interviews/commentary I'm hearing on last few days and this morning radio are incredible. Especially from some profs that keep going on about how racism permeates the armed forces and law enforcement and govt. and a HUGE problem that needs to be addressed. Do they really want to start with mass purges? Seem a little too soon for that. Maybe just prepping the public for what is to come.
I swear they look to Stalin a model leader and wish they didn't have the meat puppet in the White House.
I swear they look to Stalin a model leader and wish they didn't have the meat puppet in the White House.
Posted by: Ripley at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (MxEKc)
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Zero Hedge says the stock market, having been exposed as a racket designed entirely to enrich the elite, is going to crash.
________
Isn't that what they've been saying for time immemorial?
Zero Hedge says the stock market, having been exposed as a racket designed entirely to enrich the elite, is going to crash.
________
Isn't that what they've been saying for time immemorial?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (mht8P)
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"Am I wrong to hope so?"
I'm with you.
But ll the mom and pops with their retirement income wrapped up in the market are gonna take it in the ass.
I'm with you.
But ll the mom and pops with their retirement income wrapped up in the market are gonna take it in the ass.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (S7VTO)
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runner
Actually, historically that person is revealed in action.
Grant, Cromwell, and Napoleon come to mind. Before things got started they were lowly grey men. So do not despair.
Actually, historically that person is revealed in action.
Grant, Cromwell, and Napoleon come to mind. Before things got started they were lowly grey men. So do not despair.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:40 PM (u82oZ)
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Zero Hedge says the stock market, having been exposed as a racket designed entirely to enrich the elite, is going to crash.
Am I wrong to hope so?
===
you want the market to crash ? what is wrong with you ??
Am I wrong to hope so?
===
you want the market to crash ? what is wrong with you ??
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:40 PM (zr5Kq)
125
Didn't they ban yet another Christian group for the wrongthink of believing that the cross dressing HHS dude is a dude.
Will they also ban Muslims for believing being gay is worthy of flight time?
Seems they single out Christians and never mess with other religions.
Will they also ban Muslims for believing being gay is worthy of flight time?
Seems they single out Christians and never mess with other religions.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 31, 2021 12:40 PM (rdbLX)
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Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund)
Send it to CBD. He is in touch.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:35 PM (u82oZ)
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Good idea. I posted it to my comment above hoping CBD would notice it and perhaps pass it along to JJ. Altho JJ is so good at his craft, he probably saw it before anyone else!!
Send it to CBD. He is in touch.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:35 PM (u82oZ)
===========
Good idea. I posted it to my comment above hoping CBD would notice it and perhaps pass it along to JJ. Altho JJ is so good at his craft, he probably saw it before anyone else!!
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at January 31, 2021 12:40 PM (mZUr4)
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These are the actions of people who have taken power and will not relinquish it.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (ZfRYq)
Yup...it's their way or the high way
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (ZfRYq)
Yup...it's their way or the high way
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2021 12:40 PM (85Gof)
128
WSB announces their plan for everyone to see
hedge fund guys hide their dirty work
and who's the bad guys ?
hedge fund guys hide their dirty work
and who's the bad guys ?
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 12:40 PM (zZxh0)
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Of course they want one. They have the government, the military, the police and the courts on their side. One uprising and they will squash dissent, and get onto Living in the Commie Paradise, unhindered by dissenting voices.
Posted by: shibumi at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (tjZg/)
Not an accurate assumption to assume all police or military are on "their" side. Not by a long shot.
Posted by: shibumi at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (tjZg/)
Not an accurate assumption to assume all police or military are on "their" side. Not by a long shot.
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:40 PM (vglmF)
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for those of you who have stated that jury nullification is the way to stop unjust courts and prosecution, i submit that the second time that happens the judge or government will pass or discover a law that allows a jury member to be removed until a suitable one can be found.
or the do the old reliable and declare a mistrial and keep the person in legal limbo.
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (vglmF)
Wait'll the judge discovers he has this thing called "Contempt of Court" he can slap on people.
Jurors will be locked up. Oh yes they will. That'll be fun.
or the do the old reliable and declare a mistrial and keep the person in legal limbo.
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (vglmF)
Wait'll the judge discovers he has this thing called "Contempt of Court" he can slap on people.
Jurors will be locked up. Oh yes they will. That'll be fun.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:41 PM (oQ94s)
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Actually, historically that person is revealed in action.
Grant, Cromwell, and Napoleon come to mind. Before things got started they were lowly grey men. So do not despair.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:40 PM (u82oZ)
Oh, I do not despair, I think there will be people that will draw appropriate lessons from Trump and MAGA.
Grant, Cromwell, and Napoleon come to mind. Before things got started they were lowly grey men. So do not despair.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:40 PM (u82oZ)
Oh, I do not despair, I think there will be people that will draw appropriate lessons from Trump and MAGA.
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:41 PM (zr5Kq)
132
The interviews/commentary I'm hearing on last few days and this morning radio are incredible. Especially from some profs that keep going on about how racism permeates the armed forces and law enforcement and govt. and a HUGE problem that needs to be addressed.
***
It's weird, but with 200M racist whites and something like 500M+ firearms, it almost seems like something we'd know already.
***
It's weird, but with 200M racist whites and something like 500M+ firearms, it almost seems like something we'd know already.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (XSoJN)
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GOPe
VOTE HARDER ! and send money to stop the liberal Ds anti American agenda ...
LOL.
I'm over that. Done. No more. Finished with those REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTORS.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:33 PM (u82oZ)
Changed my reg to Reform Party. Done with the two party game. Heads they win, tails you lose.
VOTE HARDER ! and send money to stop the liberal Ds anti American agenda ...
LOL.
I'm over that. Done. No more. Finished with those REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTORS.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:33 PM (u82oZ)
Changed my reg to Reform Party. Done with the two party game. Heads they win, tails you lose.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (Msrhc)
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that is so untrue Biden hurt his foot with the dog after a shower
Biden does not shower, dementia patents hate water
Biden does not shower, dementia patents hate water
Posted by: will choose a nic later at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (r4bSV)
135
What exactly is the difference between Jury Nullification and a deadlocked jury?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (S7VTO)
136
But ll the mom and pops with their retirement income wrapped up in the market are gonna take it in the ass.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (S7VTO)
I will, too. Half my savings are in the market. I don't care. It would be worth it to see those bastards in a food line.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (S7VTO)
I will, too. Half my savings are in the market. I don't care. It would be worth it to see those bastards in a food line.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (XxJt1)
137
It's time to open up the taverns, churches & meeting halls for fellowship and serious discussions.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (jvt6t)
138
creeper
Good morning.
Zero Hedge has been predicting a stock market crash for over 10 years. They are 0-521 in correct predictions in that timespan. But maybe this one time it will crash, and make them look smart.
Good morning.
Zero Hedge has been predicting a stock market crash for over 10 years. They are 0-521 in correct predictions in that timespan. But maybe this one time it will crash, and make them look smart.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (u82oZ)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:43 PM (S7VTO)
140
I did not enjoy 2008. Not at all.
Posted by: runner at January 31, 2021 12:43 PM (zr5Kq)
141
Zero Hedge says the stock market, having been exposed as a racket designed entirely to enrich the elite, is going to crash.
Am I wrong to hope so?
Posted by: creeper
Where is the money gonna go?
Am I wrong to hope so?
Posted by: creeper
Where is the money gonna go?
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 12:43 PM (Xih1H)
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Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas
Changed my registration to Unaffiliated. Two weeks ago.
Changed my registration to Unaffiliated. Two weeks ago.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:44 PM (u82oZ)
143
>>> 107 for those of you who have stated that jury nullification is the way to stop unjust courts and prosecution, i submit that the second time that happens the judge or government will pass or discover a law that allows a jury member to be removed until a suitable one can be found.
or the do the old reliable and declare a mistrial and keep the person in legal limbo.
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (vglmF)
Yep, and the uppity peasant that defied their betters will be held in contempt and immediately thrown in jail. The "law" now is simply a tool to project the will of our oligarch masters.
or the do the old reliable and declare a mistrial and keep the person in legal limbo.
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:34 PM (vglmF)
Yep, and the uppity peasant that defied their betters will be held in contempt and immediately thrown in jail. The "law" now is simply a tool to project the will of our oligarch masters.
Posted by: banana Dream at January 31, 2021 12:44 PM (J53DX)
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135 What exactly is the difference between Jury Nullification and a deadlocked jury?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (S7VTO)
jury nullification: don't care the crime, not guilty.
deadlocked jury: can't agree on guilt
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (S7VTO)
jury nullification: don't care the crime, not guilty.
deadlocked jury: can't agree on guilt
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:44 PM (vglmF)
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Zero Hedge says the stock market, having been exposed as a racket designed entirely to enrich the elite, is going to crash.
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Isn't that what they've been saying for time immemorial?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (mht8P)
Just like the Yellowstone Caldera. Eventually it IS going to happen. It's inevitable. The stock market IS a racket, and one that is being exposed as such.
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Isn't that what they've been saying for time immemorial?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (mht8P)
Just like the Yellowstone Caldera. Eventually it IS going to happen. It's inevitable. The stock market IS a racket, and one that is being exposed as such.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:44 PM (oQ94s)
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" It's time to open up the taverns, churches & meeting halls for fellowship and serious discussions."
They don't want us assembling in groups.
And discussing.....stuff.
They don't want us assembling in groups.
And discussing.....stuff.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:44 PM (S7VTO)
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139 "dementia patents hate water"
So they are witches?
Explains a lot.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:43 PM (S7VTO
Witches float.
So they are witches?
Explains a lot.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:43 PM (S7VTO
Witches float.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 31, 2021 12:44 PM (rdbLX)
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137 It's time to open up the taverns, churches & meeting halls for fellowship and serious discussions.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (jvt6t)
Precisely the reason they've closed those down, under the pretext of a slightly more dangerous flu.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (jvt6t)
Precisely the reason they've closed those down, under the pretext of a slightly more dangerous flu.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at January 31, 2021 12:44 PM (Msrhc)
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135 What exactly is the difference between Jury Nullification and a deadlocked jury?
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (S7VTO)
one is deadlocked
the other is nullifying
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (S7VTO)
one is deadlocked
the other is nullifying
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 12:44 PM (zZxh0)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:45 PM (mht8P)
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It seems that time and again there are folks who just have to learn the hard way.
Posted by: weew at January 31, 2021 12:45 PM (+m+uH)
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"21 Let's hear it for the fearless ham and eggers at the FBI who charged in and arrested this deadly meme maker!
Political speech is, supposedly, the MOST protected by the first amendment.
Now, not so much. It's gonna be a long 70 years.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 12:12 PM (ZfRYq)"
Not likely. Russia was primarily a resilient - and unarmed - peasant society.
Ours is one of the most brittle ever built, in certain ways, and certainly the best armed. And the geographic and demographic divisions between producers/builders/fixers and the Beautiful People trying to do 1917 2.0 is very much not in their favor.
This is not a fight they can win; they're relying on their opponents bowing out on account of being lectured about being nice. If all they did was focus on the economic and neofeudalist aspects they could pull it off, but the SJW witchhunts are going to fuck them.
Political speech is, supposedly, the MOST protected by the first amendment.
Now, not so much. It's gonna be a long 70 years.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 12:12 PM (ZfRYq)"
Not likely. Russia was primarily a resilient - and unarmed - peasant society.
Ours is one of the most brittle ever built, in certain ways, and certainly the best armed. And the geographic and demographic divisions between producers/builders/fixers and the Beautiful People trying to do 1917 2.0 is very much not in their favor.
This is not a fight they can win; they're relying on their opponents bowing out on account of being lectured about being nice. If all they did was focus on the economic and neofeudalist aspects they could pull it off, but the SJW witchhunts are going to fuck them.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 31, 2021 12:45 PM (EEVQU)
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Off to church. Blessings to all here who provide succor to one in need such as I.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * pax Dei at January 31, 2021 12:45 PM (5GzXG)
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It's time to open up the taverns, churches & meeting halls for fellowship and serious discussions.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (jvt6t)
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Tun Tavern
Philadelphia, PA
10 November, 1775
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (jvt6t)
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Tun Tavern
Philadelphia, PA
10 November, 1775
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2021 12:45 PM (kTF2Z)
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Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:44 PM (S7VTO)
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That's why it's more important than ever.
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That's why it's more important than ever.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 12:45 PM (jvt6t)
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"jury nullification: don't care the crime, not guilty.
deadlocked jury: can't agree on guilt"
So instead of saying 'Don't care about the crime", just say can't agree on guilt.
Same outcome.
deadlocked jury: can't agree on guilt"
So instead of saying 'Don't care about the crime", just say can't agree on guilt.
Same outcome.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:46 PM (S7VTO)
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132 The interviews/commentary I'm hearing on last few days and this morning radio are incredible. Especially from some profs that keep going on about how racism permeates the armed forces and law enforcement and govt. and a HUGE problem that needs to be addressed.
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It's weird, but with 200M racist whites and something like 500M+ firearms, it almost seems like something we'd know already.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government
If this was true, the country would look like early 90s Balkans on steroids.
***
It's weird, but with 200M racist whites and something like 500M+ firearms, it almost seems like something we'd know already.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government
If this was true, the country would look like early 90s Balkans on steroids.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 31, 2021 12:46 PM (eBp70)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (rdbLX)
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Precisely the reason they've closed those down, under the pretext of a slightly more dangerous flu.
Yep. It worked to perfection.
Yep. It worked to perfection.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (W4eKo)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (S7VTO)
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IIANM, the Stock Market is disconnected from reality, and is simply a store of wealth for the connected. It is the last place that can store moveable value.
The buys in rural areas of land by the rich, and the increased interest in Survival Vaults and New Zealand, makes the point that the rich are uneasy with the future.
The buys in rural areas of land by the rich, and the increased interest in Survival Vaults and New Zealand, makes the point that the rich are uneasy with the future.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (u82oZ)
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138 creeper
Good morning.
Zero Hedge has been predicting a stock market crash for over 10 years. They are 0-521 in correct predictions in that timespan. But maybe this one time it will crash, and make them look smart.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (u82oZ)
Thank you. I feel much better now. My investments are safe after all.
Good morning.
Zero Hedge has been predicting a stock market crash for over 10 years. They are 0-521 in correct predictions in that timespan. But maybe this one time it will crash, and make them look smart.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (u82oZ)
Thank you. I feel much better now. My investments are safe after all.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (XxJt1)
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"jury nullification: don't care the crime, not guilty.
deadlocked jury: can't agree on guilt"
So instead of saying 'Don't care about the crime", just say can't agree on guilt.
Same outcome.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:46 PM (S7VTO)
Well no...Deadlocked Jury can be retried with another jury
deadlocked jury: can't agree on guilt"
So instead of saying 'Don't care about the crime", just say can't agree on guilt.
Same outcome.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:46 PM (S7VTO)
Well no...Deadlocked Jury can be retried with another jury
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (85Gof)
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>>> Where is the money gonna go?
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 12:43 PM (Xih1H)
These days, a good bit of money is created POOF! out of nothing thanks to the fed. And our oligarch masters are not really creating wealth as much as finding new and interesting ways of funneling the remaining real goods and services into their gaping maw.
Our "money" has come from dust and to dust it can return.
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 12:43 PM (Xih1H)
These days, a good bit of money is created POOF! out of nothing thanks to the fed. And our oligarch masters are not really creating wealth as much as finding new and interesting ways of funneling the remaining real goods and services into their gaping maw.
Our "money" has come from dust and to dust it can return.
Posted by: banana Dream at January 31, 2021 12:48 PM (J53DX)
Posted by: Islam at January 31, 2021 12:48 PM (S7VTO)
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Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (S7VTO)
one is deadlocked
the other is nullifying
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 12:44 PM (zZxh0)
What if the jury is deadlocked on nullifying?
Then what??
one is deadlocked
the other is nullifying
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 12:44 PM (zZxh0)
What if the jury is deadlocked on nullifying?
Then what??
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:48 PM (oQ94s)
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It seems that time and again there are folks who just have to learn the hard way.
Posted by: weew at January 31, 2021 12:45 PM (+m+uH)
Those who are accustomed to having power never give it up readily.
Posted by: weew at January 31, 2021 12:45 PM (+m+uH)
Those who are accustomed to having power never give it up readily.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at January 31, 2021 12:48 PM (Msrhc)
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Posted by: Puddleglum at January 31, 2021 12:46 PM (eBp70)
Well, it is true that Racial and sexual discrimination is both wide spread and supported by the Chain of Command.
I know. Due to lost promotions, I cut my career short. I figures its cost me $1000 a month, for the rest of my life.
But I'm a White Male, so legally discriminating against me, by giving everyone else an advantage, was supported by the Supreme Court.
Well, it is true that Racial and sexual discrimination is both wide spread and supported by the Chain of Command.
I know. Due to lost promotions, I cut my career short. I figures its cost me $1000 a month, for the rest of my life.
But I'm a White Male, so legally discriminating against me, by giving everyone else an advantage, was supported by the Supreme Court.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2021 12:49 PM (oHd/0)
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Twitter, Facebook, et al Inc. are effectively demolishing their market relevance. Let them destroy their own viability, there is an opportunity in this.
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 31, 2021 12:49 PM (VoKVv)
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156 "jury nullification: don't care the crime, not guilty.
deadlocked jury: can't agree on guilt"
So instead of saying 'Don't care about the crime", just say can't agree on guilt.
Same outcome.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:46 PM (S7VTO)
i should clarify that jury nullification is seen as when their IS evidence of a crime but the juror says not guilty. typically the deadlocked jury is that they cannot agree on the evidence or testimony. One says no, one says we can't get to the legal conclusion.
i say this as having served as a jury foreman on a felony case.
deadlocked jury: can't agree on guilt"
So instead of saying 'Don't care about the crime", just say can't agree on guilt.
Same outcome.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:46 PM (S7VTO)
i should clarify that jury nullification is seen as when their IS evidence of a crime but the juror says not guilty. typically the deadlocked jury is that they cannot agree on the evidence or testimony. One says no, one says we can't get to the legal conclusion.
i say this as having served as a jury foreman on a felony case.
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:49 PM (vglmF)
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Why was the meme case brought by the SDNY AG, not the FL AG where the guy lived? Because the internet is everywhere?
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 12:49 PM (Xih1H)
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"Well no...Deadlocked Jury can be retried with another jury"
I get that part.
But my understanding, as scant as it is, is that nullification would only work if all jurors agree to it.
But I could be wrong.
And probably am.
I get that part.
But my understanding, as scant as it is, is that nullification would only work if all jurors agree to it.
But I could be wrong.
And probably am.
Posted by: Islam at January 31, 2021 12:50 PM (S7VTO)
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"I think it's worth pointing out, these are NOT the actions of a people who see themselves as winning."
I've been thinking they are in Blitzkrieg stage ... in the sense of now actually having the White House and Congress. But they stole it and don't have We the People. In my sense, they now maybe have their Battle of the Bulge? In a sense, they broke through and stole the election. Now they are moving all their resources to make sure they are not cut off ... so they shut down all evidence they stole the election, that they ran a coup ... such talk means ? prison, or at least a month in the box. -- ..
Hard to make a pure analogy, because they have infiltrated our culture for decades, and control BigTech and BigBank and the bureaucracies ... the last battle line is taking our Liberty, while claiming they are returning to "normal". This is their final assault on liberty ... have they overreached? (hence my "Bulge" analogy) ... maybe not, they seem to own the courts as well, only hot war remains ... barring some other resistance emerging.
I've been thinking they are in Blitzkrieg stage ... in the sense of now actually having the White House and Congress. But they stole it and don't have We the People. In my sense, they now maybe have their Battle of the Bulge? In a sense, they broke through and stole the election. Now they are moving all their resources to make sure they are not cut off ... so they shut down all evidence they stole the election, that they ran a coup ... such talk means ? prison, or at least a month in the box. -- ..
Hard to make a pure analogy, because they have infiltrated our culture for decades, and control BigTech and BigBank and the bureaucracies ... the last battle line is taking our Liberty, while claiming they are returning to "normal". This is their final assault on liberty ... have they overreached? (hence my "Bulge" analogy) ... maybe not, they seem to own the courts as well, only hot war remains ... barring some other resistance emerging.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 31, 2021 12:50 PM (Cus5s)
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145 Zero Hedge says the stock market, having been exposed as a racket designed entirely to enrich the elite, is going to crash.
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Isn't that what they've been saying for time immemorial?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (mht8P)
Just like the Yellowstone Caldera. Eventually it IS going to happen. It's inevitable. The stock market IS a racket, and one that is being exposed as such.
Posted by: BurtTC
(ripping off Instapundit)
Something that can't go on forever, won't.
----
Isn't that what they've been saying for time immemorial?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (mht8P)
Just like the Yellowstone Caldera. Eventually it IS going to happen. It's inevitable. The stock market IS a racket, and one that is being exposed as such.
Posted by: BurtTC
(ripping off Instapundit)
Something that can't go on forever, won't.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 31, 2021 12:50 PM (eBp70)
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Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:42 PM (u82oZ)
Thank you. I feel much better now. My investments are safe after all.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (XxJt1)
I'm going to pull everything out and invest it in Jotcoin. Or Iotacoin.
I haven't decided which. But they both sound totally legit and in no way are they possibly a pyramid scheme.
Thank you. I feel much better now. My investments are safe after all.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (XxJt1)
I'm going to pull everything out and invest it in Jotcoin. Or Iotacoin.
I haven't decided which. But they both sound totally legit and in no way are they possibly a pyramid scheme.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:50 PM (oQ94s)
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Then what??
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:48 PM (oQ94s)
I only know some of the answers not all of them
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:48 PM (oQ94s)
I only know some of the answers not all of them
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 12:50 PM (zZxh0)
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Twitter, Facebook, et al Inc. are effectively demolishing their market relevance. Let them destroy their own viability, there is an opportunity in this.
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 31, 2021 12:49 PM (VoKVv)
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An opportunity for what? A new social media platform like, say, Parler?
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 31, 2021 12:49 PM (VoKVv)
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An opportunity for what? A new social media platform like, say, Parler?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2021 12:51 PM (kTF2Z)
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Be off me, you hate filled sock
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:51 PM (S7VTO)
Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2021 12:51 PM (d6he9)
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Liberal never understood humor, hence the attacks on anything they think is dangerous to their hold on power.
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at January 31, 2021 12:51 PM (qZdIZ)
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50 very unhappy men, with nothing to lose, and no FBI entanglements, can do alot.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:15 PM
And women.
Coordination. Secure Comms. A purpose.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:15 PM
And women.
Coordination. Secure Comms. A purpose.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 31, 2021 12:52 PM (axyOa)
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Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (u82oZ)
By creating a 401K system, that pretty much forced everyone's retirements into the Stock Market, it has created an artificial floor for the market.
After all, the market is based on how much money is being invested in X amount of stock.
Now its also true that with zero interest loans from the Fed Available, there is a lot of 'loose' money out there, being used to play the market. Problem is those are the gamblers, they are not long term investments.
Its that money that creates the volatility.
By creating a 401K system, that pretty much forced everyone's retirements into the Stock Market, it has created an artificial floor for the market.
After all, the market is based on how much money is being invested in X amount of stock.
Now its also true that with zero interest loans from the Fed Available, there is a lot of 'loose' money out there, being used to play the market. Problem is those are the gamblers, they are not long term investments.
Its that money that creates the volatility.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2021 12:52 PM (oHd/0)
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Twitter, Facebook, et al Inc. are effectively demolishing their market relevance. Let them destroy their own viability, there is an opportunity in this.
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 31, 2021 12:49 PM (VoKVv)
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An opportunity for what? A new social media platform like, say, Parler?
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We're in the 1st quarter, are you ready to give up?
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 31, 2021 12:49 PM (VoKVv)
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An opportunity for what? A new social media platform like, say, Parler?
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We're in the 1st quarter, are you ready to give up?
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 31, 2021 12:53 PM (VoKVv)
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I'd be looking up where the drugs you need are stored in warehouses.
ISTR one guy, vaguely, that has a plan and special equipment to make those his before the reaction forces arrive. Could be named Galt.
ISTR one guy, vaguely, that has a plan and special equipment to make those his before the reaction forces arrive. Could be named Galt.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:53 PM (u82oZ)
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Brave Firefighters hopefully hardest hit.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 12:53 PM (jvt6t)
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Isn't that what they've been saying for time immemorial?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (mht8P)
Just like the Yellowstone Caldera. Eventually it IS going to happen. It's inevitable. The stock market IS a racket, and one that is being exposed as such.
Posted by: BurtTC
(ripping off Instapundit)
Something that can't go on forever, won't.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 31, 2021 12:50 PM (eBp70)
And Mt Rainier is 500 years overdue an eruption. A perfect excuse to spend millions on a early warning system that doesn't work but filled some local oils re-election fund.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (mht8P)
Just like the Yellowstone Caldera. Eventually it IS going to happen. It's inevitable. The stock market IS a racket, and one that is being exposed as such.
Posted by: BurtTC
(ripping off Instapundit)
Something that can't go on forever, won't.
Posted by: Puddleglum at January 31, 2021 12:50 PM (eBp70)
And Mt Rainier is 500 years overdue an eruption. A perfect excuse to spend millions on a early warning system that doesn't work but filled some local oils re-election fund.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 31, 2021 12:54 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:54 PM (u82oZ)
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Not an accurate assumption to assume all police or military are on "their" side. Not by a long shot.
I pray you're right. However, how many will cave and go along with the bad actors? How many will 'go along to get along' to save their pensions or their careers? Look at the Trump rallies. At one point, police made them go past BLM/ Antifa to get assaulted and just watch. That does not make me feel hopeful about those in law enforcement. Many-- if not most-- just seem to care about their pensions.
/apologies to all morons in law enforcement who are not like that.
I pray you're right. However, how many will cave and go along with the bad actors? How many will 'go along to get along' to save their pensions or their careers? Look at the Trump rallies. At one point, police made them go past BLM/ Antifa to get assaulted and just watch. That does not make me feel hopeful about those in law enforcement. Many-- if not most-- just seem to care about their pensions.
/apologies to all morons in law enforcement who are not like that.
Posted by: shibumi at January 31, 2021 12:55 PM (tjZg/)
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55 While Clinesmith pays a $100 fee for his part in the coup.
Julie Kelly tweeted no one watching CNN, MSNBC or reads NY Times has a clue who Kevin Clinesmith is.
Julie Kelly tweeted no one watching CNN, MSNBC or reads NY Times has a clue who Kevin Clinesmith is.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 12:55 PM (Cxk7w)
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What an incredible train wreck "resident biden's" illegal occupation of white house is turning into. The clips of biden saying out loud the instructions from his earpiece is pure comedy gold. And its fascinating to watch their (globalists) tactics evolve:
(Globalists : Soros, pelosi, hillary, biden, merkel, davos participants, etc). They NEVER could convince/bribe enough to secure a majority in order to "legitimately win" elections. So ? they stole several elections. Lmfao, now even THAT isn't working, they are hemorrhaging support. So, now they will simply take their opponents "off the playing field", via cancel, etc etc. Arresting "Ricky Vaughn"??? Banning Focus on the family from twitter over a textbook definition ?? Holy Sh*t, what an incredibly rickety structure they have built. The inevitable collapse is going to be epic. Pass the popcorn.
(Globalists : Soros, pelosi, hillary, biden, merkel, davos participants, etc). They NEVER could convince/bribe enough to secure a majority in order to "legitimately win" elections. So ? they stole several elections. Lmfao, now even THAT isn't working, they are hemorrhaging support. So, now they will simply take their opponents "off the playing field", via cancel, etc etc. Arresting "Ricky Vaughn"??? Banning Focus on the family from twitter over a textbook definition ?? Holy Sh*t, what an incredibly rickety structure they have built. The inevitable collapse is going to be epic. Pass the popcorn.
Posted by: obamas third term at January 31, 2021 12:55 PM (nXOU5)
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Hard to make a pure analogy, because they have infiltrated our culture for decades, and control BigTech and BigBank and the bureaucracies ... the last battle line is taking our Liberty, while claiming they are returning to "normal". This is their final assault on liberty ... have they overreached? (hence my "Bulge" analogy) ... maybe not, they seem to own the courts as well, only hot war remains ... barring some other resistance emerging.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 31, 2021 12:50 PM (Cus5s)
I think part of where we miss the mark is thinking this is a monolithic assault, perpetrated by a unified enemy.
If anything, it should be shouted from the rooftops that the main Boss Battle is not going to happen in the halls of Congress. They're not even going to happen in the press rooms, or the ivy covered walls of academia.
No, the main boss battle will be with the oligarchs. The money men, the funders of all. Can we get to them without battling the lesser bosses? Maybe not, but regaining elective offices is not going to accomplish much of anything.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 31, 2021 12:50 PM (Cus5s)
I think part of where we miss the mark is thinking this is a monolithic assault, perpetrated by a unified enemy.
If anything, it should be shouted from the rooftops that the main Boss Battle is not going to happen in the halls of Congress. They're not even going to happen in the press rooms, or the ivy covered walls of academia.
No, the main boss battle will be with the oligarchs. The money men, the funders of all. Can we get to them without battling the lesser bosses? Maybe not, but regaining elective offices is not going to accomplish much of anything.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:55 PM (oQ94s)
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We're in the 1st quarter, are you ready to give up?
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 31, 2021 12:53 PM (VoKVv)
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If you don't like twitter, make your own platform, they said. Somebody did and it got nuked from orbit.
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 31, 2021 12:53 PM (VoKVv)
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If you don't like twitter, make your own platform, they said. Somebody did and it got nuked from orbit.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2021 12:55 PM (kTF2Z)
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IIANM, the Stock Market is disconnected from
reality, and is simply a store of wealth for the connected. It is the
last place that can store moveable value.
The buys in rural areas of land by the rich, and the increased
interest in Survival Vaults and New Zealand, makes the point that the
rich are uneasy with the future.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (u82oZ)
I read years ago, like twenty or thirty years ago. that the majority of millionaires made their money in real estate. Few went from regular if you will, to rich through the stock market.
Having said that, liberals used to say the market is only for the rich when they used to bash Wall Street and call it Republican. Today we know that at least half the country owns stocks in some way and also Wall Street hates conservatives. Interesting times really.
reality, and is simply a store of wealth for the connected. It is the
last place that can store moveable value.
The buys in rural areas of land by the rich, and the increased
interest in Survival Vaults and New Zealand, makes the point that the
rich are uneasy with the future.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (u82oZ)
I read years ago, like twenty or thirty years ago. that the majority of millionaires made their money in real estate. Few went from regular if you will, to rich through the stock market.
Having said that, liberals used to say the market is only for the rich when they used to bash Wall Street and call it Republican. Today we know that at least half the country owns stocks in some way and also Wall Street hates conservatives. Interesting times really.
Posted by: Quint at January 31, 2021 12:56 PM (3BHQi)
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Zero Hedge has been predicting a stock market crash for over 10 years. They are 0-521 in correct predictions in that timespan. But maybe this one time it will crash, and make them look smart.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
What does Krugman predict?
Zero Hedge has been predicting a stock market crash for over 10 years. They are 0-521 in correct predictions in that timespan. But maybe this one time it will crash, and make them look smart.
Posted by: NaCly Dog
What does Krugman predict?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2021 12:56 PM (63Dwl)
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andycanuck
Reparations money, if delivered, will be gone faster than a Lottery Winner spending on hookers and blow.
Reparations money, if delivered, will be gone faster than a Lottery Winner spending on hookers and blow.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:56 PM (u82oZ)
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I've read a lot about this case and still I've never seen the tweet in question, or even a quote of it. Anyone have a screenshot, r is this like Hunter's laptop, where its so bad nobody can show it?
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 31, 2021 12:56 PM (OssQ4)
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:57 PM (u82oZ)
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We're in the 1st quarter, are you ready to give up?
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 31, 2021 12:53 PM (VoKVv)
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If you don't like twitter, make your own platform, they said. Somebody did and it got nuked from orbit.
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John Galt would not pull out the pitchforks, he'd pull the money.
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 31, 2021 12:53 PM (VoKVv)
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If you don't like twitter, make your own platform, they said. Somebody did and it got nuked from orbit.
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John Galt would not pull out the pitchforks, he'd pull the money.
Posted by: I can see the communism in your eyes at January 31, 2021 12:57 PM (VoKVv)
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187 Romeo13
The Stock Market is gambling.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:54 PM (u82oZ)
Unless the company goes bankrupt, it all depends on WHEN you bought the stock (yeah, I did take a bath when United Airlines went bankrupt, I'd bought a bunch after 9/11 figuring it had enough assets to cover debts and liabilities, but the Court just F'd the stockholders).
I've got stocks from 1983, that I bought for less than 1/10 of their 'supposed' value today.
So Long Term? As long as the company is stable, its not much of a gamble IMO... SHORT Term? or new Technology? Huge gamble.
The Stock Market is gambling.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:54 PM (u82oZ)
Unless the company goes bankrupt, it all depends on WHEN you bought the stock (yeah, I did take a bath when United Airlines went bankrupt, I'd bought a bunch after 9/11 figuring it had enough assets to cover debts and liabilities, but the Court just F'd the stockholders).
I've got stocks from 1983, that I bought for less than 1/10 of their 'supposed' value today.
So Long Term? As long as the company is stable, its not much of a gamble IMO... SHORT Term? or new Technology? Huge gamble.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2021 12:58 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at January 31, 2021 12:58 PM (W4eKo)
Posted by: bonhomme at January 31, 2021 12:59 PM (i0wNm)
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Duke Lowell
So Parlor fell into the swamp. Keep going, son. There are vast ... tracks of land for you. And no singing!
So Parlor fell into the swamp. Keep going, son. There are vast ... tracks of land for you. And no singing!
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:59 PM (u82oZ)
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Seems like the sheep in Europe are upset
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 12:59 PM (Xih1H)
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But I'm a White Male, so legally discriminating against me, by giving everyone else an advantage, was supported by the Supreme Court.
Posted by: Romeo13
They call it reparations.
But I'm a White Male, so legally discriminating against me, by giving everyone else an advantage, was supported by the Supreme Court.
Posted by: Romeo13
They call it reparations.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2021 12:59 PM (63Dwl)
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196 I've read a lot about this case and still I've never seen the tweet in question, or even a quote of it. Anyone have a screenshot, r is this like Hunter's laptop, where its so bad nobody can show it?
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 31, 2021 12:56 PM (OssQ4)
I've been wondering about that meself.
Its like Trump formenting Insurrection... SHOW ME.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 31, 2021 12:56 PM (OssQ4)
I've been wondering about that meself.
Its like Trump formenting Insurrection... SHOW ME.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2021 12:59 PM (oHd/0)
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Romeo13
The Stock Market is gambling.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:54 PM (u82oZ)
over the long haul, people would have done well to invest in the SP 500. In fact, I say the people that bought legit stocks back in the 50s and 60s were well ahead of their time and likely did very well. I don't think really widespread interest in the stock market came about until possibly even the 1990s.
Oh to go back and buy Philip Morris, Att, or even Heinz or Tootsie Roll. But it wasn't something "normal people" did.
The Stock Market is gambling.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 12:54 PM (u82oZ)
over the long haul, people would have done well to invest in the SP 500. In fact, I say the people that bought legit stocks back in the 50s and 60s were well ahead of their time and likely did very well. I don't think really widespread interest in the stock market came about until possibly even the 1990s.
Oh to go back and buy Philip Morris, Att, or even Heinz or Tootsie Roll. But it wasn't something "normal people" did.
Posted by: Quint at January 31, 2021 12:59 PM (3BHQi)
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can someone point me to the specific legislation that made certain memes illegal? I'd like to study up.
Posted by: DB- just DB at January 31, 2021 12:59 PM (iTXRQ)
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When I was heading in to a jury case as a potential juror, there were several people standing outside the courthouse advocating for jury nullification.
Not having had any experience being a juror, I wasn't sure what their point was.
The case was an individual being tried for the second time for resisting arrest. I didn't think that we had enough evidence to prove he was resisting. I voted not guilty. Fortunately for me there was another juror who happened to agree with me, but all the others wanted the guy to be convicted. They wanted blood.
Since the jury was hung with the two of us saying not guilty, the guy was released but could potentially be tried a third time. I found out afterwards, (asking the judge), that the penalty would have been 30 days in jail if the guy had been convicted.
Not having had any experience being a juror, I wasn't sure what their point was.
The case was an individual being tried for the second time for resisting arrest. I didn't think that we had enough evidence to prove he was resisting. I voted not guilty. Fortunately for me there was another juror who happened to agree with me, but all the others wanted the guy to be convicted. They wanted blood.
Since the jury was hung with the two of us saying not guilty, the guy was released but could potentially be tried a third time. I found out afterwards, (asking the judge), that the penalty would have been 30 days in jail if the guy had been convicted.
Posted by: squeakywheel at January 31, 2021 01:00 PM (Yy/MO)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 31, 2021 01:00 PM (VWp7G)
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I had this thought - our "movement" such as it is needs some sort of flower or something as a symbol - and then we should leave those on the fence around the Capitol.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:00 PM (ZfRYq)
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Then what??
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:48 PM (oQ94s)
I only know some of the answers not all of them
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 12:50 PM (zZxh0)
I fear a jury with everyone in dreadlocks.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 12:48 PM (oQ94s)
I only know some of the answers not all of them
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 12:50 PM (zZxh0)
I fear a jury with everyone in dreadlocks.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 01:01 PM (oQ94s)
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Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:00 PM (ZfRYq)
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Bluebonnets., but then again I'm Texas biased.
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Bluebonnets., but then again I'm Texas biased.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 01:01 PM (jvt6t)
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when the MSM predicts a crash, there will be a crash
and it will happen one weeks after the MSM's pals have sold their longs and bought their shorts
and it will happen one weeks after the MSM's pals have sold their longs and bought their shorts
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 01:01 PM (zZxh0)
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can someone point me to the specific legislation that made certain memes illegal? I'd like to study up.
Laws don't matter any more. Look at the FISA scandal. Hillary's home server. Obamacare as a tax.
Laws are whatever any random judge decides what they are. Which is why meme guy will get convicted by a left judge and go to jail.
Laws don't matter any more. Look at the FISA scandal. Hillary's home server. Obamacare as a tax.
Laws are whatever any random judge decides what they are. Which is why meme guy will get convicted by a left judge and go to jail.
Posted by: shibumi at January 31, 2021 01:01 PM (tjZg/)
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Perhaps an explosion of graffiti is coming.
Posted by: davidt at January 31, 2021 01:02 PM (l3+k2)
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blaster
Why not those pamphlets that contain the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence? I have a lot of them, due to me being Chairman and Quizmaster of our Constitution Bee.
Why not those pamphlets that contain the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence? I have a lot of them, due to me being Chairman and Quizmaster of our Constitution Bee.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 01:02 PM (u82oZ)
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I had this thought - our "movement" such as it is needs some sort of flower or something as a symbol - and then we should leave those on the fence around the Capitol.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:00 PM
How about empty ammo boxes? Cover every inch of the fence.
I had this thought - our "movement" such as it is needs some sort of flower or something as a symbol - and then we should leave those on the fence around the Capitol.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:00 PM
How about empty ammo boxes? Cover every inch of the fence.
Posted by: Winston Smith at January 31, 2021 01:03 PM (N/gDA)
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I don't think really widespread interest in the stock market came about until possibly even the 1990s.
Posted by: Quint at January 31, 2021 12:59 PM (3BHQi)
It was the Government mucking with the laws and creating 401Ks, which gave companies the ability to get rid of retirements, and still find employees.
So, 1978 was the start, but took awhile to really get rolling.
Posted by: Quint at January 31, 2021 12:59 PM (3BHQi)
It was the Government mucking with the laws and creating 401Ks, which gave companies the ability to get rid of retirements, and still find employees.
So, 1978 was the start, but took awhile to really get rolling.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2021 01:03 PM (oHd/0)
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can someone point me to the specific legislation that made certain memes illegal? I'd like to study up.
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It's the Cute Kitten Saying 'Awiens!' Act.
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It's the Cute Kitten Saying 'Awiens!' Act.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2021 01:04 PM (d6he9)
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Laws are whatever any random judge decides what they are. Which is why meme guy will get convicted by a left judge and go to jail.
Posted by: shibumi at January 31, 2021 01:01 PM (tjZg/)
Remember when Benghazi was blamed on a Film?
What ever happened to THAT poor guy.
Posted by: shibumi at January 31, 2021 01:01 PM (tjZg/)
Remember when Benghazi was blamed on a Film?
What ever happened to THAT poor guy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2021 01:04 PM (oHd/0)
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Why not those pamphlets that contain the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence? I have a lot of them, due to me being Chairman and Quizmaster of our Constitution Bee.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 01:02 PM (u82oZ)
Ehh. The Constitution is long gone.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at January 31, 2021 01:02 PM (u82oZ)
Ehh. The Constitution is long gone.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:04 PM (ZfRYq)
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I buy stocks like antiques
when I bought an antique, I had to believe I could at least triple my money on the sale
I buy stocks the same way, which is to say I'm not buying atm
when I bought an antique, I had to believe I could at least triple my money on the sale
I buy stocks the same way, which is to say I'm not buying atm
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 01:05 PM (zZxh0)
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The scarlet pimpernel.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2021 01:05 PM (d6he9)
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How about empty ammo boxes? Cover every inch of the fence.
Posted by: Winston Smith at January 31, 2021 01:03 PM (N/gDA)
Nice thought but they'll just use that to make the wall higher. THEY ARE THREATENING TO SHOOT US!!
Posted by: Winston Smith at January 31, 2021 01:03 PM (N/gDA)
Nice thought but they'll just use that to make the wall higher. THEY ARE THREATENING TO SHOOT US!!
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:05 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!! at January 31, 2021 01:05 PM (W4eKo)
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Since the jury was hung with the two of us saying not guilty, the guy was released but could potentially be tried a third time. I found out afterwards, (asking the judge), that the penalty would have been 30 days in jail if the guy had been convicted.
Posted by: squeakywheel at January 31, 2021 01:00 PM (Yy/MO)
Resisting arrest is such a bullshit charge, 90% of the time. It's usually a tacked on thing, for whatever else the cops wanted to throw at him.
If the guy flinches when they go to put the cuffs on him, that's "resisting arrest." And if the guy happens to fall while he's being manhandled, and steps on the cop's toe or bumps into his arm, that's "assault on a cop."
Now I know there are violent altercations between cops and perps, and if you want to throw the book at the guy, fine, but if ALL you're walking into court with is a resisting citation? It's bullshit.
Posted by: squeakywheel at January 31, 2021 01:00 PM (Yy/MO)
Resisting arrest is such a bullshit charge, 90% of the time. It's usually a tacked on thing, for whatever else the cops wanted to throw at him.
If the guy flinches when they go to put the cuffs on him, that's "resisting arrest." And if the guy happens to fall while he's being manhandled, and steps on the cop's toe or bumps into his arm, that's "assault on a cop."
Now I know there are violent altercations between cops and perps, and if you want to throw the book at the guy, fine, but if ALL you're walking into court with is a resisting citation? It's bullshit.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 01:05 PM (oQ94s)
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>>>I buy stocks the same way, which is to say I'm not buying atm
Posted by: REDACTED
You never go ATM.
Posted by: REDACTED
You never go ATM.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 31, 2021 01:05 PM (VWp7G)
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!! at January 31, 2021 01:06 PM (W4eKo)
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223 The scarlet pimpernel.
Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2021 01:05 PM (d6he9)
my fav Leslie Howard movie
Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2021 01:05 PM (d6he9)
my fav Leslie Howard movie
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 01:06 PM (zZxh0)
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You still don't get it. "Liberal" and "socialist" mean something bad to you but they don't mean bad things to so many people. First of all, politics have gone so far left that today a "liberal" is slightly left of center. Tulsi Gabbard is "liberal". I was liberal until I figured out economics, but I'm still very much of a you-leave-me-alone-and-i'll-leave-you-alone mindset (so long as leaving you alone doesn't end up redounding to my detriment). As for "socialism", that doesn't scare anyone anymore except those already scared. Why would it? It's a very innocuous-sounding word. Who doesn't like being social? You don't understand your own enemy.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 31, 2021 01:06 PM (KAi1n)
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Damn. I nearly met Bill in the barrel.
Posted by: Ready For Hillary!!! at January 31, 2021 01:06 PM (W4eKo)
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Bluebonnets., but then again I'm Texas biased.
Posted by: Jak Sucio
Everything's better with bluebonnet on it.
Bluebonnets., but then again I'm Texas biased.
Posted by: Jak Sucio
Everything's better with bluebonnet on it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2021 01:06 PM (63Dwl)
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>>>If the guy flinches when they go to put the cuffs on him, that's "resisting arrest."
Cops bring it to the division all the time. We listen to their plea, nod our heads, and refuse to add the charge. We tell them, "People don't like being handcuffed, so of course they are going to resist a little.
Cops bring it to the division all the time. We listen to their plea, nod our heads, and refuse to add the charge. We tell them, "People don't like being handcuffed, so of course they are going to resist a little.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 31, 2021 01:07 PM (VWp7G)
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Salty I do agree every investment is a gamble of some sort. And if you go with just one or two stocks, you can lose it all. And people normally buy at the high and sell at the low, it is human nature and the nature of crowds.
A really good book I learned a lot from was Stocks For the Long Run by Jeremy Siegel. Sure it is dated, but so is everything I talk about lol.
Not defending the Wall Street even a little bit here. There is no doubt the place has lots of sharks that are out just to take other people's money. There is another famous book called "where are the customer's yachts?" And anyone who watches Boiler Room or The Wolf of Wall Street should at least take pause.
A really good book I learned a lot from was Stocks For the Long Run by Jeremy Siegel. Sure it is dated, but so is everything I talk about lol.
Not defending the Wall Street even a little bit here. There is no doubt the place has lots of sharks that are out just to take other people's money. There is another famous book called "where are the customer's yachts?" And anyone who watches Boiler Room or The Wolf of Wall Street should at least take pause.
Posted by: Quint at January 31, 2021 01:08 PM (3BHQi)
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Everything's better with bluebonnet on it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2021 01:06 PM (63Dwl)
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I thought that was a dollop of Daisy.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2021 01:06 PM (63Dwl)
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I thought that was a dollop of Daisy.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2021 01:08 PM (kTF2Z)
Posted by: Zombie Sun Tzu at January 31, 2021 01:09 PM (W4eKo)
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It was the Government mucking with the laws and
creating 401Ks, which gave companies the ability to get rid of
retirements, and still find employees.
So, 1978 was the start, but took awhile to really get rolling.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2021 01:03 PM (oHd/0)
yeah, it is like what the preacher said in Blazing Saddles, "You're on your own!"
creating 401Ks, which gave companies the ability to get rid of
retirements, and still find employees.
So, 1978 was the start, but took awhile to really get rolling.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2021 01:03 PM (oHd/0)
yeah, it is like what the preacher said in Blazing Saddles, "You're on your own!"
Posted by: Quint at January 31, 2021 01:10 PM (3BHQi)
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Posted by: SFGoth at January 31, 2021 01:06 PM (KAi1n)
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...and when Reason fails, all bets are off.
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...and when Reason fails, all bets are off.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at January 31, 2021 01:11 PM (jvt6t)
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But I'm a White Male, so legally discriminating against me, by giving everyone else an advantage, was supported by the Supreme Court.
Posted by: Romeo13
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I suspect this is a huge part of the whole RACIST WHITE SUPREMACIST!!! push these days. No one gives a shit about actual racism, but a whole bunch of people are saying "wait, it's been 50 years, and essentially no one alive today (outside of Democrats) thinks they're any less capable mentally or physically, so when are they going to be expected to be equal?"
And that's racism.
Posted by: Romeo13
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I suspect this is a huge part of the whole RACIST WHITE SUPREMACIST!!! push these days. No one gives a shit about actual racism, but a whole bunch of people are saying "wait, it's been 50 years, and essentially no one alive today (outside of Democrats) thinks they're any less capable mentally or physically, so when are they going to be expected to be equal?"
And that's racism.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 01:11 PM (XSoJN)
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Perhaps they should ponder the word muzzle.
Posted by: DaveA at January 31, 2021 01:11 PM (FhXTo)
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Mr Jen and I have invested in a company sponsored 401K for over 30 years. We have maxed our contributions during that time every year no matter how much that cut into household income. We just did without. We had the company selected brokerage manage it and then as we are nearing retirement have pulled almost all of it into a private account managed by a fiduciary of one of the well known brokerages. Stunningly we still have a pension available when we retire. I do not want to see the market crash. We have worked our asses off to build this from nothing and we are going to be the most injured by a crash not the elite.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 31, 2021 01:12 PM (2qSqc)
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Am I wrong to hope so?
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 12:38 PM (XxJt1)
Ummmmmm....No.
Crash away. The sooner the better.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 12:38 PM (XxJt1)
Ummmmmm....No.
Crash away. The sooner the better.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 31, 2021 01:12 PM (R/m4+)
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How about empty ammo boxes? Cover every inch of the fence.
Posted by: Winston Smith at January 31, 2021 01:03 PM (N/gDA)
Nice thought but they'll just use that to make the wall higher. THEY ARE THREATENING TO SHOOT US!!
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:05 PM
Don't care. They need a message in the strongest terms possible - YOU DON'T STEAL AN ELECTION IN THIS COUNTRY.
I recently 'did the math' on the percentage of (R)'s (D)'s and Independent voters who think the election was fraudulent then 'normalized' it for an average. FOUR OUT OF TEN voters from those groups think the election was fraudulent.
That's huge. That's not some 'fringe' group.
Posted by: Winston Smith at January 31, 2021 01:03 PM (N/gDA)
Nice thought but they'll just use that to make the wall higher. THEY ARE THREATENING TO SHOOT US!!
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:05 PM
Don't care. They need a message in the strongest terms possible - YOU DON'T STEAL AN ELECTION IN THIS COUNTRY.
I recently 'did the math' on the percentage of (R)'s (D)'s and Independent voters who think the election was fraudulent then 'normalized' it for an average. FOUR OUT OF TEN voters from those groups think the election was fraudulent.
That's huge. That's not some 'fringe' group.
Posted by: Winston Smith at January 31, 2021 01:12 PM (N/gDA)
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235 Everything's better with bluebonnet on it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2021 01:06 PM (63Dwl)
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I thought that was a dollop of Daisy.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2021 01:08 PM (kTF2Z)
Dollops of Daisy are downright dangerous!
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 31, 2021 01:06 PM (63Dwl)
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I thought that was a dollop of Daisy.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2021 01:08 PM (kTF2Z)
Dollops of Daisy are downright dangerous!
Posted by: Johny Ringo at January 31, 2021 01:12 PM (oHd/0)
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Tulips. "Plant your tulips here!"
Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2021 01:12 PM (d6he9)
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Since we were "assigned red at birth" red flowers.
Carnations since they are cheap and plentiful I think.
Carnations since they are cheap and plentiful I think.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:13 PM (ZfRYq)
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...and when Reason fails, all bets are off.
Posted by: Jak Sucio
When reason* fails, you need to understand why and adapt. But keep on keeping on.
*"Reason" as you define it.
Posted by: Jak Sucio
When reason* fails, you need to understand why and adapt. But keep on keeping on.
*"Reason" as you define it.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 31, 2021 01:13 PM (KAi1n)
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@199 So Long Term? As long as the company is stable, its not much of a gamble IMO... SHORT Term? or new Technology? Huge gamble.
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The problem basically boils down to "until they're suddenly not stable". For quite a while, GameStop was stable. But the market that company exists in is changing, and GameStop missed its chance to keep up. I know people who used to think that GM was stable. And arguably, for quite a while it was. But then 2008 happened.
If you can find a company to invest in that's going to hold its value over the length of its life, then that's a great thing. You'll make a decent amount of money over the long-term. But quite a few companies become less good as the decades roll on.
Having said that, your basic point is still sound. The market shouldn't be viewed as a way to get rich quick.
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The problem basically boils down to "until they're suddenly not stable". For quite a while, GameStop was stable. But the market that company exists in is changing, and GameStop missed its chance to keep up. I know people who used to think that GM was stable. And arguably, for quite a while it was. But then 2008 happened.
If you can find a company to invest in that's going to hold its value over the length of its life, then that's a great thing. You'll make a decent amount of money over the long-term. But quite a few companies become less good as the decades roll on.
Having said that, your basic point is still sound. The market shouldn't be viewed as a way to get rich quick.
Posted by: junior at January 31, 2021 01:13 PM (PTw5h)
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There's free speech, which is in overabundance, sitting on the curb with a sign that reads: Free Speech. Like trash talk...MUH TROOTH! But then there's unfree speech. Costly, unyielding, terrifying...THE truth. It is the speech you only bring out when testifying before the mobs or Congress. The speech you are commanded never to utter, and when you get to choose to continue living muzzled,or to die speaking freely...silence is gold plated tungsten. You can haul your free speech cases before the courts, but what kind of victory is it, when people just surrender to the mobs?
Posted by: Jewel at January 31, 2021 01:13 PM (c7lZ6)
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NGU was pointing out wait until King Sum Dum Fuk is on the world stage, it will be comedy gold.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:14 PM (Cxk7w)
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What in the blue balls of Shaitan is an 'illegal meme' anyway?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 31, 2021 01:14 PM (Nylw5)
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Meme guy is being charged with interference of a federal election? If he was a New Black Panther in Philadelphia intimidating white voters, he'd never be charged.
Posted by: (fly) at January 31, 2021 01:15 PM (wQX0G)
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Remember when Benghazi was blamed on a Film?
What ever happened to THAT poor guy.[/]
he was homeless last I saw
What ever happened to THAT poor guy.[/]
he was homeless last I saw
Posted by: will choose a nic later at January 31, 2021 01:15 PM (r4bSV)
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Posted by: junior at January 31, 2021 01:13 PM (PTw5h)
Oh, you have to watch your portfolio.
Hell, I've been trying to get my 92 year old Mom to dump her ATT and PGE stock for YEARS.
They are not the companies she remembers.
Oh, you have to watch your portfolio.
Hell, I've been trying to get my 92 year old Mom to dump her ATT and PGE stock for YEARS.
They are not the companies she remembers.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 31, 2021 01:15 PM (oHd/0)
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"Where is the money gonna go?"
The paper profits are illusory ... that "money" goes to money heaven, when stocks drop 20%. BUT The Plan (not the "Trust the Plan", plan) is to inflate away the debt, and the stock/bond game is part of that, a big part. -- ..
The fed reserve is already buying (with QE "money") bad corporate debt, and will probably buy stocks directly if need be. They can't let stocks fall, can't let interest rates rise (very much, if at all, rate hikes are being talked up though). Fed talk and IMF talk already includes social justice talk, so this is how they do their "communism" ... they tax via rampant money creation, and redistribute wealth as they see fit (they like their oligarchs a lot).
The paper profits are illusory ... that "money" goes to money heaven, when stocks drop 20%. BUT The Plan (not the "Trust the Plan", plan) is to inflate away the debt, and the stock/bond game is part of that, a big part. -- ..
The fed reserve is already buying (with QE "money") bad corporate debt, and will probably buy stocks directly if need be. They can't let stocks fall, can't let interest rates rise (very much, if at all, rate hikes are being talked up though). Fed talk and IMF talk already includes social justice talk, so this is how they do their "communism" ... they tax via rampant money creation, and redistribute wealth as they see fit (they like their oligarchs a lot).
Posted by: illiniwek at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Cus5s)
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Did Clinesmith have to surrender his law license
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)
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>What in the blue balls of Shaitan is an 'illegal meme' anyway?
Posted by: Anna Puma
it's a meme that someone doesn't like
Posted by: Anna Puma
it's a meme that someone doesn't like
Posted by: DB- just DB at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (iTXRQ)
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251 What in the blue balls of Shaitan is an 'illegal meme' anyway?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 31, 2021 01:14 PM (Nylw5)
The crime now is offending the wrong people. It is why the "rioters" from Jan 6 are stopped by TSA due to facial recognition, why Dems want participation in a Trump rally to be disqualifying for security clearances, the meme-poster is behind bars, and the WSB leaders will go to jail.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 31, 2021 01:14 PM (Nylw5)
The crime now is offending the wrong people. It is why the "rioters" from Jan 6 are stopped by TSA due to facial recognition, why Dems want participation in a Trump rally to be disqualifying for security clearances, the meme-poster is behind bars, and the WSB leaders will go to jail.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:17 PM (ZfRYq)
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If the guy flinches when they go to put the cuffs on him, that's "resisting arrest."
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Cops bring it to the division all the time. We listen to their plea, nod our heads, and refuse to add the charge. We tell them, "People don't like being handcuffed, so of course they are going to resist a little.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 31, 2021 01:07 PM (VWp7G)
I would hope most cops would treat it that way, but obviously it's still showing up in many courtrooms.
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Cops bring it to the division all the time. We listen to their plea, nod our heads, and refuse to add the charge. We tell them, "People don't like being handcuffed, so of course they are going to resist a little.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 31, 2021 01:07 PM (VWp7G)
I would hope most cops would treat it that way, but obviously it's still showing up in many courtrooms.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 01:17 PM (C7zIl)
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What in the blue balls of Shaitan is an 'illegal meme' anyway?
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 31, 2021 01:14 PM (Nylw5)
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That's covered in subsection 2, clause 4, paragraph 8 of the "Things That Make Us Look Bad" act.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 31, 2021 01:14 PM (Nylw5)
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That's covered in subsection 2, clause 4, paragraph 8 of the "Things That Make Us Look Bad" act.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 31, 2021 01:17 PM (kTF2Z)
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So for some unfathomable reason my son put a one of my brokerage accounts into Boeing and GE...during the Wu-Flu hoax. I thought sure they would tank but both are gaining steadily. I'd give my left font to know why.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 01:17 PM (XxJt1)
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256 Did Clinesmith have to surrender his law license
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)
You are such a comedian!
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)
You are such a comedian!
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:18 PM (ZfRYq)
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256 Did Clinesmith have to surrender his law license
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)
yes, for #twoweeks
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)
yes, for #twoweeks
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 01:18 PM (zZxh0)
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52 Ricky Vaughan - America's second political prisoner? After that guy Obama threw in jail for claiming he made the video that riled up AQ to attack the Libyan embassy
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2021 12:19 PM (qlFIA)
It could be argued those swept up in the coup attempt against Trump also were political prisoners. The United States exudes the stench of a totalitarian shithole more each day.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 31, 2021 12:19 PM (qlFIA)
It could be argued those swept up in the coup attempt against Trump also were political prisoners. The United States exudes the stench of a totalitarian shithole more each day.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 31, 2021 01:19 PM (puu6v)
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So basically if you tell someone that elections for democrats take place on the 1st Wednesday in November you are guilty of denying their right to vote.
Posted by: Jimco Industries at January 31, 2021 01:19 PM (buTO7)
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Stocks are an unknown and undiscovered country for me; one good thing about being poor as dirt is that I don't have to worry about that stuff.
Poor people belong in the aboriginal casinos that the connected government bureaus have allowed to exist; as long as all the lumpenproles and deplorables buy their lottery tickets. /s
Poor people belong in the aboriginal casinos that the connected government bureaus have allowed to exist; as long as all the lumpenproles and deplorables buy their lottery tickets. /s
Posted by: mustbequantum at January 31, 2021 01:19 PM (MIKMs)
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What is so troubling is that significant restrictions on speech will often lead to violence, because without the natural right of political expression, what is left?
Sow the wind. Reap the whirlwind.
Sow the wind. Reap the whirlwind.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 31, 2021 01:20 PM (YqDXo)
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I do not want to see the market crash. We have worked our asses off to build this from nothing and we are going to be the most injured by a crash not the elite.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 31, 2021 01:12 PM (2qSqc)
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Frankly I think that's the plan. Biden, Kerry, etc. have said the Great Reset is full speed ahead.
There is no middle class in that plan.
Posted by: Jen the original at January 31, 2021 01:12 PM (2qSqc)
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Frankly I think that's the plan. Biden, Kerry, etc. have said the Great Reset is full speed ahead.
There is no middle class in that plan.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 01:20 PM (XSoJN)
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Did Clinesmith have to surrender his law license
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)
You are such a comedian!
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:18 PM (ZfRYq)
Yes. He surrendered it, and now it's being stored the same place as Bill Clinton's.
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)
You are such a comedian!
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:18 PM (ZfRYq)
Yes. He surrendered it, and now it's being stored the same place as Bill Clinton's.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 01:20 PM (C7zIl)
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Did Clinesmith have to surrender his law license
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)
Nah, just the casino. I represent the Corleone Family and we're going give him a chance to tidy up his affairs.
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)
Nah, just the casino. I represent the Corleone Family and we're going give him a chance to tidy up his affairs.
Posted by: Al Neri at January 31, 2021 01:20 PM (R/m4+)
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261 So for some unfathomable reason my son put a one of my brokerage accounts into Boeing and GE...during the Wu-Flu hoax. I thought sure they would tank but both are gaining steadily. I'd give my left font to know why.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 01:17 PM (XxJt1)
Both are politically connected enough to the Left to continue to be propped up, to give a short explanation.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 01:17 PM (XxJt1)
Both are politically connected enough to the Left to continue to be propped up, to give a short explanation.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at January 31, 2021 01:21 PM (puu6v)
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132 The interviews/commentary I'm hearing on last few days and this morning radio are incredible. Especially from some profs that keep going on about how racism permeates the armed forces and law enforcement and govt. and a HUGE problem that needs to be addressed.
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That's because they're defining unequal results as "racism."
It's "racist" for there to be more enlisted blacks than whites, and more white officers than blacks.
Ability has nothing to do with it. You see, the only reason a white can ever possibly out-perform a black in government or the military or business is obviously because of raaaaaaacism. But in sports where blacks dominate whites, of course it's all about superior ability.
A few decades back there was a fire district where most of the firefighters were white, and black applicants kept failing the firefighter test. So the blacks sued, and the district dumbed down the test, but blacks still had a low pass rate, so eventually they just got rid of the test altogether. Why should a firefighter need to understand how fire spreads, or what causes ignition, or what chemical combinations are flammable. Knowledge be raaaaaacist!
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That's because they're defining unequal results as "racism."
It's "racist" for there to be more enlisted blacks than whites, and more white officers than blacks.
Ability has nothing to do with it. You see, the only reason a white can ever possibly out-perform a black in government or the military or business is obviously because of raaaaaaacism. But in sports where blacks dominate whites, of course it's all about superior ability.
A few decades back there was a fire district where most of the firefighters were white, and black applicants kept failing the firefighter test. So the blacks sued, and the district dumbed down the test, but blacks still had a low pass rate, so eventually they just got rid of the test altogether. Why should a firefighter need to understand how fire spreads, or what causes ignition, or what chemical combinations are flammable. Knowledge be raaaaaacist!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 31, 2021 01:21 PM (k4dH2)
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creeper ever get your pinecones?
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:21 PM (Cxk7w)
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I have been ambivalent about Sundance at CTH.
But this one I think I am 100% in agreement:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6su79c8
We are WAY off the map.
But this one I think I am 100% in agreement:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6su79c8
We are WAY off the map.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:21 PM (ZfRYq)
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>So basically if you tell someone that elections for democrats take place on the 1st Wednesday in November you are guilty of denying their right to vote.
yes, because you ILLEGALLY took advantage of their innate stupidity and gullibility
yes, because you ILLEGALLY took advantage of their innate stupidity and gullibility
Posted by: DB- just DB at January 31, 2021 01:22 PM (iTXRQ)
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Drive around Atlanta with a truck with electric signs on it that say "Vote Democrat - Get $2000" and nothing happens.
Trick some dumbass who shouldn't even vote and get arrested 4 years later.
Trick some dumbass who shouldn't even vote and get arrested 4 years later.
Posted by: f'd at January 31, 2021 01:22 PM (b8vLb)
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Still hard for me to process the fact that we have reached critical mass. Oh, well...plan accordingly.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 31, 2021 01:23 PM (W4eKo)
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@241 We had the company selected brokerage manage it and then as we are nearing retirement have pulled almost all of it into a private account managed by a fiduciary of one of the well known brokerages. Stunningly we still have a pension available when we retire. I do not want to see the market crash. We have worked our asses off to build this from nothing and we are going to be the most injured by a crash not the elite.
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I've got something similar (due to my employer offering to match contributions), though not to the degree that you do. And I suspect that you're much closer to retirement than I am. However, based on my understanding of the system, a market crash will only hurt you for a short period of time. The contents of your retirement account will be released to you over a protracted period of time. So if the market crashed, you would have a lean year or two (which would not be pleasant by any means). But as the market recovers from its hypothetical crash, the value of your account will recover as well, and start paying you more money in its regular disbursements.
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I've got something similar (due to my employer offering to match contributions), though not to the degree that you do. And I suspect that you're much closer to retirement than I am. However, based on my understanding of the system, a market crash will only hurt you for a short period of time. The contents of your retirement account will be released to you over a protracted period of time. So if the market crashed, you would have a lean year or two (which would not be pleasant by any means). But as the market recovers from its hypothetical crash, the value of your account will recover as well, and start paying you more money in its regular disbursements.
Posted by: junior at January 31, 2021 01:23 PM (PTw5h)
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my best crashed market tip is Sunoco
they pay a divy of .83
I bought a pile last spring at around 10.75
but then I cut and ran at 25
I did collect 2 divy checks
but this week will mark the second one I have missed
I'm such a chickenshit
they pay a divy of .83
I bought a pile last spring at around 10.75
but then I cut and ran at 25
I did collect 2 divy checks
but this week will mark the second one I have missed
I'm such a chickenshit
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 01:24 PM (zZxh0)
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 31, 2021 01:24 PM (Nylw5)
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So basically if you tell someone that elections for democrats take place on the 1st Wednesday in November you are guilty of denying their right to vote.
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yes, because you ILLEGALLY took advantage of their innate stupidity and gullibility
Posted by: DB- just DB at January 31, 2021 01:22 PM (iTXRQ)
Also, don't donate $2001 to a candidate you like. You'll be thrown in jail. But if you're an oligarch? You can spend bazillions on an election, or if you are lucky enough to control social media and/or legacy media empires? Your "donations" are basically limitless.
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yes, because you ILLEGALLY took advantage of their innate stupidity and gullibility
Posted by: DB- just DB at January 31, 2021 01:22 PM (iTXRQ)
Also, don't donate $2001 to a candidate you like. You'll be thrown in jail. But if you're an oligarch? You can spend bazillions on an election, or if you are lucky enough to control social media and/or legacy media empires? Your "donations" are basically limitless.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 01:25 PM (C7zIl)
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This I believe is the "nut graf" from the Sundance piece:
Everything now visible, the blatant disregard and the 'in-your-face' approach with the JoeBama administration, is downstream from that origination point. That's why they all walk around as if they do not care...because they have nothing to worry about.
This is why they do what they do. Not because they are afraid, or showing guilt that they know they did not really win, or whatever. They are doing it because they can.
Everything now visible, the blatant disregard and the 'in-your-face' approach with the JoeBama administration, is downstream from that origination point. That's why they all walk around as if they do not care...because they have nothing to worry about.
This is why they do what they do. Not because they are afraid, or showing guilt that they know they did not really win, or whatever. They are doing it because they can.
Posted by: blaster at January 31, 2021 01:25 PM (ZfRYq)
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dude,
your employers pensions are in the stock market too
401k just means you can control it more
your employers pensions are in the stock market too
401k just means you can control it more
Posted by: will choose a nic later at January 31, 2021 01:25 PM (r4bSV)
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So for some unfathomable reason my son put a one of my brokerage
accounts into Boeing and GE...
My dad left me GE when it was in the 30s. Within weeks the bottom dropped out and went as low as the 5s, dividend down to .01 per share. It's got a ways to go for me to break even but it's looking a lot better. If I had any stones I'd buy a bunch right now.
accounts into Boeing and GE...
My dad left me GE when it was in the 30s. Within weeks the bottom dropped out and went as low as the 5s, dividend down to .01 per share. It's got a ways to go for me to break even but it's looking a lot better. If I had any stones I'd buy a bunch right now.
Posted by: dartist at January 31, 2021 01:27 PM (+ya+t)
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Did Clinesmith have to surrender his law license
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)
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I no-joke remember that the judge said something about him not losing his ability to earn an income. You know. Same as they do with Joe Sixpack when he breaks some law.
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:16 PM (Xih1H)
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I no-joke remember that the judge said something about him not losing his ability to earn an income. You know. Same as they do with Joe Sixpack when he breaks some law.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 01:27 PM (XSoJN)
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BTW, it's not "jury nullification", it's the jury not believing the testimony. That = "not guilty", end of story unless the judge directs the verdict which I'm not sure can happen in a criminal trial.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 31, 2021 01:28 PM (KAi1n)
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dude,
your employers pensions are in the stock market too
401k just means you can control it more
Posted by: will choose a nic later at January 31, 2021 01:25 PM (r4bSV)
true, but how many get pensions these days? Another reason the military is the way to go but so few even consider it.
your employers pensions are in the stock market too
401k just means you can control it more
Posted by: will choose a nic later at January 31, 2021 01:25 PM (r4bSV)
true, but how many get pensions these days? Another reason the military is the way to go but so few even consider it.
Posted by: Quint at January 31, 2021 01:28 PM (3BHQi)
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@254 Oh, you have to watch your portfolio.
Hell, I've been trying to get my 92 year old Mom to dump her ATT and PGE stock for YEARS.
They are not the companies she remembers.
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That's basically why mutual funds exist. They do tend to have minimum initial purchase entry barriers. But they allow you to let someone else - who is supposedly being paid to watch the companies that the fund owns shares in - handle that problem for you.
The problem, of course, is the minimum initial purchase and annual fees, which means that you need to have a chunk of money set aside before you start investing in them.
Hell, I've been trying to get my 92 year old Mom to dump her ATT and PGE stock for YEARS.
They are not the companies she remembers.
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That's basically why mutual funds exist. They do tend to have minimum initial purchase entry barriers. But they allow you to let someone else - who is supposedly being paid to watch the companies that the fund owns shares in - handle that problem for you.
The problem, of course, is the minimum initial purchase and annual fees, which means that you need to have a chunk of money set aside before you start investing in them.
Posted by: junior at January 31, 2021 01:28 PM (PTw5h)
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However, based on my understanding of the system, a market crash will only hurt you for a short period of time
Dollar cost averaging?
Dollar cost averaging?
Posted by: Jean at January 31, 2021 01:29 PM (Xih1H)
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273 creeper ever get your pinecones?
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:21 PM (Cxk7w)
Not yet, Skip. I'm awash in candle wax and dryer lint at the moment, supplied by neighbors. There's enough raw material for a hundred fire starters. All that's needed is a little labor.
Hmmm...pinecones won't require labor. Rethinking.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:21 PM (Cxk7w)
Not yet, Skip. I'm awash in candle wax and dryer lint at the moment, supplied by neighbors. There's enough raw material for a hundred fire starters. All that's needed is a little labor.
Hmmm...pinecones won't require labor. Rethinking.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 01:29 PM (XxJt1)
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I no-joke remember that the judge said something about him not losing his ability to earn an income. You know. Same as they do with Joe Sixpack when he breaks some law.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 01:27 PM (XSoJN)
Joe Sixpack gets behind on child support because his job pays 3600/month and he has to hand over 2000/month in payments to the ex wife on top of his own expenses. He goes to jail for contempt. Loses his job. Makes his employment history look erratic. Hard time finding other employment. Judicial system gives zero fucks.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at January 31, 2021 01:27 PM (XSoJN)
Joe Sixpack gets behind on child support because his job pays 3600/month and he has to hand over 2000/month in payments to the ex wife on top of his own expenses. He goes to jail for contempt. Loses his job. Makes his employment history look erratic. Hard time finding other employment. Judicial system gives zero fucks.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at January 31, 2021 01:31 PM (nakwk)
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Biden's Department of Justice is now prosecuting formerly prolific, online personality, Ricky Vaughn
In fairness, this is a Bill Barr joint.
In fairness, this is a Bill Barr joint.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 31, 2021 01:33 PM (yQpMk)
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BTW, it's not "jury nullification", it's the jury not believing the testimony. That = "not guilty", end of story unless the judge directs the verdict which I'm not sure can happen in a criminal trial.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 31, 2021 01:28 PM (KAi1n)
I'm sure it matters to the legal beagles, but to the rest of us riff raff, whatever distinction you are making, it's really not important.
Sorta like taking the OJ trial. Was that jury nullification or the jury not buying the mountain of evidence the prosecution presented... cuz the glove don't fit?
I don't know. Same thing, really.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 31, 2021 01:28 PM (KAi1n)
I'm sure it matters to the legal beagles, but to the rest of us riff raff, whatever distinction you are making, it's really not important.
Sorta like taking the OJ trial. Was that jury nullification or the jury not buying the mountain of evidence the prosecution presented... cuz the glove don't fit?
I don't know. Same thing, really.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 01:33 PM (C7zIl)
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um,
a market crash only hurts you if one sells/gets out I think
a market crash only hurts you if one sells/gets out I think
Posted by: will choose a nic later at January 31, 2021 01:33 PM (r4bSV)
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creeper could send you a box
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:34 PM (Cxk7w)
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"Liberal" and "socialist" mean something bad to you but they don't mean bad things to so many people. "
They don't even mean what they used to mean. I use "lefty" because they operate on the sinister side of human nature.
They don't even mean what they used to mean. I use "lefty" because they operate on the sinister side of human nature.
Posted by: f'd at January 31, 2021 01:35 PM (b8vLb)
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Joe Sixpack gets behind on child support because his job pays 3600/month and he has to hand over 2000/month in payments to the ex wife on top of his own expenses. He goes to jail for contempt. Loses his job. Makes his employment history look erratic. Hard time finding other employment. Judicial system gives zero fucks.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at January 31, 2021 01:31 PM (nakwk)
Many states will also rip away your drivers license. And if you DO go for a job, well, here fella, give us permission to run your background check?
You're a Deadbeat Dad (tm)? Oh well, this company doesn't need janitors like your kind.
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at January 31, 2021 01:31 PM (nakwk)
Many states will also rip away your drivers license. And if you DO go for a job, well, here fella, give us permission to run your background check?
You're a Deadbeat Dad (tm)? Oh well, this company doesn't need janitors like your kind.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 01:35 PM (C7zIl)
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I'm taking a state bar survey and one question asks whether I identify as a person with a disability. "Identify"? RUFKM? Of course I do. I suffer from abject social ineptitude.
Posted by: SFGoth at January 31, 2021 01:36 PM (KAi1n)
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I don't know how they compare to Apple, Amazon, MSFT, TSLA, etc. But if you look at the original book "stocks for the long run" I think some would be surprised at which stocks have been the biggest winners over the last 50 or 60 years. I believe Philip Morris/Altria was number one by a good margin. Some of the others were Coke, AtT, Heinz, and the like. Sure things change and some companies blow it.
But let's be honest here, the chance Coke ever goes broke is nil. I have never given stock advice here and this thread is by far as far as I have gone. I sure as hell am not advising buying Coke either. But it is an example of a company that will find a way to adapt one way or the other. They are not going to go bust imo.
Altria is a fave just for studying fundamentals and how markets and dividends work. The irony is the stock was the top performer for many, many decades BECAUSE people thought it was at risk of going bust. There is a lot more to that story and if people want to research it, the info is out there.
But let's be honest here, the chance Coke ever goes broke is nil. I have never given stock advice here and this thread is by far as far as I have gone. I sure as hell am not advising buying Coke either. But it is an example of a company that will find a way to adapt one way or the other. They are not going to go bust imo.
Altria is a fave just for studying fundamentals and how markets and dividends work. The irony is the stock was the top performer for many, many decades BECAUSE people thought it was at risk of going bust. There is a lot more to that story and if people want to research it, the info is out there.
Posted by: Quint at January 31, 2021 01:36 PM (3BHQi)
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286: The judge cannot direct a verdict of conviction in a criminal trial. (The judge can grant a motion of acquittal, essentially finding that there is insufficient evidence for a jury to convict beyond a reasonable doubt).
Posted by: Revenant at January 31, 2021 01:37 PM (cOGHc)
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@294 um,
a market crash only hurts you if one sells/gets out I think
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Retirement accounts typically force the owner to withdraw a certain percentage of value from the account each year after the owner gets old enough. So the owner can't stop selling until the market recovers. Some of those shares will be sold during a depressed market.
a market crash only hurts you if one sells/gets out I think
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Retirement accounts typically force the owner to withdraw a certain percentage of value from the account each year after the owner gets old enough. So the owner can't stop selling until the market recovers. Some of those shares will be sold during a depressed market.
Posted by: junior at January 31, 2021 01:37 PM (PTw5h)
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295 creeper could send you a box
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:34 PM (Cxk7w)
Aw, that's really sweet of you, Skip. But we'll save the postage and I'll drive up the lake to that row of big pine trees I keep seeing.
If it turns out they're on private land I may be in touch.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:34 PM (Cxk7w)
Aw, that's really sweet of you, Skip. But we'll save the postage and I'll drive up the lake to that row of big pine trees I keep seeing.
If it turns out they're on private land I may be in touch.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 01:38 PM (XxJt1)
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Was out collecting wheelbarrows of Stick's to get burning up greener branches today or tomorrow and pine cones are all over the place so has to be the best time to collect them.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:40 PM (Cxk7w)
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303 Was out collecting wheelbarrows of Stick's to get burning up greener branches today or tomorrow and pine cones are all over the place so has to be the best time to collect them.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:40 PM (Cxk7w)
Skip, would you let me cover postage? I'm warming to this idea.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:40 PM (Cxk7w)
Skip, would you let me cover postage? I'm warming to this idea.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 01:41 PM (XxJt1)
305
So far 21 accusers against Lincoln Project asshole and...
Donald Trump Jr.
@ DonaldJTrumpJr
The Lincoln Project should probably change their name to the Pedophile Project to better reflect their true "values"
Donald Trump Jr.
@ DonaldJTrumpJr
The Lincoln Project should probably change their name to the Pedophile Project to better reflect their true "values"
Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2021 01:41 PM (d6he9)
Posted by: REDACTED at January 31, 2021 01:42 PM (zZxh0)
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Very fine wool, saturated in light oil and wrapped for storage in tin foil makes a great fire starter. Doesn't smell as nice as the pine cone.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin at January 31, 2021 01:45 PM (I58tH)
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GE was ready to implode because of long-term landmines that Jack Welch pulled to lie to the market. He was also a leader in outsourcing to places like China, relying on the rest of us to pay for a military to protect his intellectual property and trade routes.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 31, 2021 01:45 PM (9TdxA)
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Stunningly we still have a pension available when we retire. I do not want to see the market crash. We have worked our asses off to build this from nothing and we are going to be the most injured by a crash not the elite.
Posted by: Jen the original
Right now, I would pull all my money out of stocks and put it into cash (a Money Market Account).
I did this at the end of 2020 with my 401K. The broader stock market is going to take retreat this Spring and go back 15-25%. It will look like a "crash", but a lot of stocks are over-valued now. Tesla, for instance, is value at 1750:1 for price to earnings ratio. Is that for real? That's nuts. And of course, that is an extreme example.
When the retreat is over, is a good time to put your money back in.
Posted by: Jen the original
Right now, I would pull all my money out of stocks and put it into cash (a Money Market Account).
I did this at the end of 2020 with my 401K. The broader stock market is going to take retreat this Spring and go back 15-25%. It will look like a "crash", but a lot of stocks are over-valued now. Tesla, for instance, is value at 1750:1 for price to earnings ratio. Is that for real? That's nuts. And of course, that is an extreme example.
When the retreat is over, is a good time to put your money back in.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at January 31, 2021 01:47 PM (tjZg/)
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there will be no crash, for the same reason that the hedge funds aren't really going to lose much in the Gamestop fiasco. If the Market shows a serious threat of dropping, the Fed will write a $2 Trillion check to the Treasury and the Admin. will buy whatever it takes to keep prices up - even if that means they need another $2 Trillion after the first is used up.
what, are gonna try to tell me there are laws and norms that might keep them from doing this? More likely, if you dare to criticize it the DOJ's new Hate Speech Crime Unit will put you on top of their list.
what, are gonna try to tell me there are laws and norms that might keep them from doing this? More likely, if you dare to criticize it the DOJ's new Hate Speech Crime Unit will put you on top of their list.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2021 01:47 PM (V2Yro)
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Gotta run for a while. Skip, my e-mail is linked in my nick. Let me know if you'll accept shipping costs for a box of cones.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 01:49 PM (XxJt1)
312
So far 21 accusers against Lincoln Project asshole and...
Donald Trump Jr.
@ DonaldJTrumpJr
The Lincoln Project should probably change their name to the Pedophile Project to better reflect their true "values"
Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2021 01:41 PM (d6he9)
I'm sure Ace will cover it with glee this week, but apparently there is coming a "What did they know and when did they know it" story about how the LP's media pals covered it up until after the election.
Donald Trump Jr.
@ DonaldJTrumpJr
The Lincoln Project should probably change their name to the Pedophile Project to better reflect their true "values"
Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2021 01:41 PM (d6he9)
I'm sure Ace will cover it with glee this week, but apparently there is coming a "What did they know and when did they know it" story about how the LP's media pals covered it up until after the election.
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 01:50 PM (C7zIl)
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i saw on zerohedge today there was some kind of run on silver- akin to what happened with gamestop thing.
wonder when the powers that be decide they've had enough and turn it off?
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (vglmF)
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It's been done before. The Gold Reserve Act of 1934
wonder when the powers that be decide they've had enough and turn it off?
Posted by: Jack Burton, who is only drives as fast as he can see at January 31, 2021 12:39 PM (vglmF)
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It's been done before. The Gold Reserve Act of 1934
Posted by: mrp at January 31, 2021 01:51 PM (Pqytn)
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What in the blue balls of Shaitan is an 'illegal meme' anyway?
Posted by: Anna Puma
I don't know, but I wonder how much longer Powerline will be posting The Week In Pictures.
Posted by: Anna Puma
I don't know, but I wonder how much longer Powerline will be posting The Week In Pictures.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at January 31, 2021 01:52 PM (OssQ4)
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what, are gonna try to tell me there are laws and norms that might keep them from doing this? More likely, if you dare to criticize it the DOJ's new Hate Speech Crime Unit will put you on top of their list.
Posted by: Tom Servo
The "estimated" capitalization of the stock "markets" is something like 86 Trillion dollars. I don't think the imbeciles in the Biden Junta can fix that big a problem if the market crashes. Their panicky moves surrounding the Gamestop imbroglio show just how dumb they really are. Just let it fail, don't prop up these losers in this game.
Too Big to Fail is a bad way to think about these things; that was the big mistake in the 2008 Tarp fund fiasco. Sometimes bad operations HAVE to fail.
Posted by: Tom Servo
The "estimated" capitalization of the stock "markets" is something like 86 Trillion dollars. I don't think the imbeciles in the Biden Junta can fix that big a problem if the market crashes. Their panicky moves surrounding the Gamestop imbroglio show just how dumb they really are. Just let it fail, don't prop up these losers in this game.
Too Big to Fail is a bad way to think about these things; that was the big mistake in the 2008 Tarp fund fiasco. Sometimes bad operations HAVE to fail.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at January 31, 2021 01:52 PM (tjZg/)
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creeper a box can't weigh much, but if I don't get some right pronto they will be covered for who knows how long.
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:53 PM (Cxk7w)
317
Tesla, for instance, is value at 1750:1 for price
to earnings ratio. Is that for real?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at January 31, 2021 01:47 PM (tjZg/)
No, that is not real. That number is incorrect.
to earnings ratio. Is that for real?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at January 31, 2021 01:47 PM (tjZg/)
No, that is not real. That number is incorrect.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 31, 2021 01:54 PM (Q9lwr)
318
"Everything now visible, the blatant disregard and the 'in-your-face'
approach with the JoeBama administration, is downstream from that
origination point"
That is my "Battle of the Bulge" analogy point. They have broken out into the open, but they only take the high ground (congress, WH, courts?, BigTech) ... well, that is a lot of ground. But taking the mind of Americans is not accomplished. Trump Won, They Stole It. That 2+2=4 Truth must be made illegal, and you must confess Joe Won Fairly ... (and you are a white supremacist, confess your sins). -- ...The People have not confessed ... they are angry .. but can we do anything other than complain, till all are subdued and guns are taken? idk, outcome uncertain. I'm safe in the Hinterlands for now, would rather be20 miles west, in Missouri, than Illinois though.
approach with the JoeBama administration, is downstream from that
origination point"
That is my "Battle of the Bulge" analogy point. They have broken out into the open, but they only take the high ground (congress, WH, courts?, BigTech) ... well, that is a lot of ground. But taking the mind of Americans is not accomplished. Trump Won, They Stole It. That 2+2=4 Truth must be made illegal, and you must confess Joe Won Fairly ... (and you are a white supremacist, confess your sins). -- ...The People have not confessed ... they are angry .. but can we do anything other than complain, till all are subdued and guns are taken? idk, outcome uncertain. I'm safe in the Hinterlands for now, would rather be20 miles west, in Missouri, than Illinois though.
Posted by: illiniwek at January 31, 2021 01:54 PM (Cus5s)
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282 This I believe is the "nut graf" from the Sundance piece:
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"Look at this nut graph...."
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"Look at this nut graph...."
Posted by: Nickelback at January 31, 2021 01:55 PM (OssQ4)
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I suppose my self-imposed "news" blackout is the problem, but I can't imagine how something like whatever that guy did ("meme" maker) could be prosecuted. Which statute is the basis for the prosecution?
That it could even be attempted, of course, is the sickening and amazing indicator.
That it could even be attempted, of course, is the sickening and amazing indicator.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 31, 2021 01:55 PM (OTzUX)
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I think that if the markets, and potentially the US economy were to crash as the result of some sort of manipulation those who lose everything are likely to seek vengeance on not only the perpetrators but those who cheered them on as well.
Picking sides in this battle isn't exactly cut and dry.
Food for thought.
Picking sides in this battle isn't exactly cut and dry.
Food for thought.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at January 31, 2021 01:57 PM (3H9h1)
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Skip, I'd like to give them a try. If you have nothing better to do than throw pinecones in a box I'd be happy to have them.
Back in a bit. Riding shotgun on a trip to inspect a vacuum cleaner that's for sale.
Back in a bit. Riding shotgun on a trip to inspect a vacuum cleaner that's for sale.
Posted by: creeper at January 31, 2021 01:57 PM (XxJt1)
323
The Sundance article is very good, even if it is an after-action report. This is what we argued about against the #TWOWEEKS!!! people for over a year. We argued that the reason it was always TWOWEEKS! was because EVERYONE was in on it, including Barr and Durham, and it was all a sham just to keep us foolishly hopeful. A lot of people didn't want to accept that we were already lost, long before the election.
but it's pretty obvious now.
but it's pretty obvious now.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2021 01:57 PM (V2Yro)
324
Bill Gates is apparently complaining about the "conspiracy theories" associated with him and Faulci, and is calling for more censorship.
I wonder why.
Gates is linked to, not just the Great Reset and vaccine nonsense, he's also linked to Epstein and kiddie pron.
Is something going to drop??
I wonder why.
Gates is linked to, not just the Great Reset and vaccine nonsense, he's also linked to Epstein and kiddie pron.
Is something going to drop??
Posted by: BurtTC at January 31, 2021 01:58 PM (C7zIl)
325
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/snl runs disgusting hit piecemike lindell mocks previous drug addiction support donald trump video
Rat fkers
Rat fkers
Posted by: Skip at January 31, 2021 01:59 PM (Cxk7w)
326
I was in the process of being vetted by the Proud Boys here in the Bay Area until Enrique Tarrio went to Washington DC and got arrested. I bowed out after that. Hearing about what is happening to the Oathkeepers I think I made a wise decision.
I don't want to be on the list of the first people to be rounded up. The left ain't f'ing around with us and not enough of us on the "right" are rallying together to do anything about it, which at this point is probably ok because we are too late to do anything.
Struggled with that being a cowardly act, but I dont think it was. I'm not taking a back handed swipe at us saying this, but again, we we haven't done anything I response to the left, even in a peaceful way and it's probably too late at this point anyways.
At this point its to each their own and just being along for the ride.
I don't want to be on the list of the first people to be rounded up. The left ain't f'ing around with us and not enough of us on the "right" are rallying together to do anything about it, which at this point is probably ok because we are too late to do anything.
Struggled with that being a cowardly act, but I dont think it was. I'm not taking a back handed swipe at us saying this, but again, we we haven't done anything I response to the left, even in a peaceful way and it's probably too late at this point anyways.
At this point its to each their own and just being along for the ride.
Posted by: JROD at January 31, 2021 02:00 PM (0jZnq)
327
"160 "If this was true, the country would look like early 90s Balkans on steroids."
It still could.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (S7VTO)"
Ask someone who survived that what they think of what things look like right now.
It still could.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at January 31, 2021 12:47 PM (S7VTO)"
Ask someone who survived that what they think of what things look like right now.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 31, 2021 02:00 PM (EEVQU)
328
So creeper's on a blow job! A sucker's job??
Posted by: andycanuck at January 31, 2021 02:00 PM (d6he9)
329
When Biden called for "unity" he meant "unity of thought."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at January 31, 2021 02:00 PM (l9m7l)
330
1ST NOOD ALERT
Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at January 31, 2021 02:01 PM (Cxk7w)
331
This Christian guy (Nate Cain) stayed true to his morals, and exposed Hillary's crimes, dealt with Horowitz and tried to penetrate the Praetorian Guard, but in the end was harassed by FBI, who maybe even tried to kill him. Pretty good story ... he is safe now, supposedly he got Lindsay Graham to get the dogs to back down on the attacks. (Hillary had above top level secret stuff on her private server, took big effort to get it their, not a mistake, not little stuff)
https://tinyurl.com/y3kmafhd
https://tinyurl.com/y3kmafhd
Posted by: illiniwek at January 31, 2021 02:02 PM (Cus5s)
332
Actually quickly read the Sundance piece and most of what he says is fairly obviously true, which is not a criticism.
There is an all-encompassing surreal character to the response to Trump's election by the Beltway, from 2016 til today. The rot in the institutions didn't of course start there, but its depth and severity were revealed. From leaked presidential phone calls with heads of state (WTF??? itself a scandal unlike anything in modern times) - which was THE FIRST WEEK of his administration - to of course the whole absurd "RUSSIA!" nonsense, which includes Mueller, everything was like bad fiction about the Beltway.
Biden's installation is the crowning surreal event.
There is an all-encompassing surreal character to the response to Trump's election by the Beltway, from 2016 til today. The rot in the institutions didn't of course start there, but its depth and severity were revealed. From leaked presidential phone calls with heads of state (WTF??? itself a scandal unlike anything in modern times) - which was THE FIRST WEEK of his administration - to of course the whole absurd "RUSSIA!" nonsense, which includes Mueller, everything was like bad fiction about the Beltway.
Biden's installation is the crowning surreal event.
Posted by: rhomboid at January 31, 2021 02:02 PM (OTzUX)
333
Amazing how fast Biden's DOJ sprung into action. No four year investigation, no "no reasonable prosecutor", no nothing standing in the way. No clandestine ops, no endless bullshit.
Posted by: CN loves Biden, Biden is the greatest at January 31, 2021 02:03 PM (ONvIw)
334
That's basically why mutual funds exist. They do tend to have minimum initial purchase entry barriers. But they allow you to let someone else - who is supposedly being paid to watch the companies that the fund owns shares in - handle that problem for you.
The problem, of course, is the minimum initial purchase and annual fees, which means that you need to have a chunk of money set aside before you start investing in them.
Posted by: junior at January 31, 2021 01:28 PM (PTw5h)
There's another, more pernicious problem: you're joined at the hip with ding-a-lings who will sell their holdings when the mutual fund drops, unwittingly adopting the "buy high, sell low" strategy, and exacerbating any market swings.
Of course, that works the other way, too, in that they will drive the mutual fund up when it is going up. In short, they introduce a hefty element of irrationality to the festivities.
In principle, one could wait out bouts of irrationality, but the problem is when one is forced to sell for other reasons, e.g., to raise cash, or is required to sell by the required minimum distribution. Then being joined at the hip with ding-a-lings is painful.
The problem, of course, is the minimum initial purchase and annual fees, which means that you need to have a chunk of money set aside before you start investing in them.
Posted by: junior at January 31, 2021 01:28 PM (PTw5h)
There's another, more pernicious problem: you're joined at the hip with ding-a-lings who will sell their holdings when the mutual fund drops, unwittingly adopting the "buy high, sell low" strategy, and exacerbating any market swings.
Of course, that works the other way, too, in that they will drive the mutual fund up when it is going up. In short, they introduce a hefty element of irrationality to the festivities.
In principle, one could wait out bouts of irrationality, but the problem is when one is forced to sell for other reasons, e.g., to raise cash, or is required to sell by the required minimum distribution. Then being joined at the hip with ding-a-lings is painful.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 31, 2021 02:06 PM (YqDXo)
335
With a week away to the impeachment hearings they are now reporting that 5 of Trump's lawyers have quit.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 31, 2021 02:06 PM (NpAcC)
336
"280 The Stasi in comparison to the Twitterati mob of Karens are less evil.
They got paid to snitch.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 31, 2021 01:24 PM (Nylw5)"
Their regular mooks also weren't going to work everyday to force women to let men into their locker rooms, promote pedophilia, or run interference for looters.
Although some of their former leadership is now doing exactly that in the reunified Germany...
(To be honest, though, I rather liked the coed locker rooms in Germany, back in the day. Woo boy)
They got paid to snitch.
Posted by: Anna Puma at January 31, 2021 01:24 PM (Nylw5)"
Their regular mooks also weren't going to work everyday to force women to let men into their locker rooms, promote pedophilia, or run interference for looters.
Although some of their former leadership is now doing exactly that in the reunified Germany...
(To be honest, though, I rather liked the coed locker rooms in Germany, back in the day. Woo boy)
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at January 31, 2021 02:07 PM (EEVQU)
337
At this point its to each their own and just being along for the ride.
Posted by: JROD at January 31, 2021 02:00 PM (0jZnq)
we have no leadership at all currently - with no leadership we have no options except to keep our heads down and wait for the other side to screw up big enough to give us an opportunity. It may take a while.
Posted by: JROD at January 31, 2021 02:00 PM (0jZnq)
we have no leadership at all currently - with no leadership we have no options except to keep our heads down and wait for the other side to screw up big enough to give us an opportunity. It may take a while.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 31, 2021 02:09 PM (V2Yro)
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Tesla, for instance, is value at 1750:1 for price
to earnings ratio. Is that for real?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America
No, that is not real. That number is incorrect.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
That's right, becaue nobody really knows what the P/E is for Tesla. The published number is something like 139.37 (12 month trailing average), but Tesla lost money all through 2020, so what were their actual earnings? No one really knows; there are people that hype Tesla stock, but the P/E ratio has to be ....huge. The bottom line is that Tesla is vastly over-valued in the Stock Market, compared to other automotive stocks. And so are other companies, which means that the Stock Market is due for a very large correction.
to earnings ratio. Is that for real?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America
No, that is not real. That number is incorrect.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
That's right, becaue nobody really knows what the P/E is for Tesla. The published number is something like 139.37 (12 month trailing average), but Tesla lost money all through 2020, so what were their actual earnings? No one really knows; there are people that hype Tesla stock, but the P/E ratio has to be ....huge. The bottom line is that Tesla is vastly over-valued in the Stock Market, compared to other automotive stocks. And so are other companies, which means that the Stock Market is due for a very large correction.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Outlaw in America at January 31, 2021 02:10 PM (tjZg/)
339
326 JROD
Every single media piece and doj release now refers to the oathkeepers as "paramilitary." Would not be surprised if they hit members w some sort of charge claiming sedition. Everyone, including Ricky Vaugh, has been hit w conspiracy;although, we were told conspiracy in Russiagate was much too difficult to prove.
Every single media piece and doj release now refers to the oathkeepers as "paramilitary." Would not be surprised if they hit members w some sort of charge claiming sedition. Everyone, including Ricky Vaugh, has been hit w conspiracy;although, we were told conspiracy in Russiagate was much too difficult to prove.
Posted by: EveR at January 31, 2021 02:13 PM (R0z7P)
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Everyone, including Ricky Vaugh, has been hit w conspiracy; although, we were told conspiracy in Russiagate was much too difficult to prove.
Posted by: EveR at January 31, 2021 02:13 PM (R0z7P)
We were lied to
Posted by: EveR at January 31, 2021 02:13 PM (R0z7P)
We were lied to
Posted by: CN loves Biden, Biden is the greatest at January 31, 2021 02:16 PM (ONvIw)
341
> I can't imagine how something like whatever that guy did ("meme" maker) could be prosecuted. Which statute is the basis for the prosecution?
as a prank, he urged supporters of a certain candidate to vote by text
Der Stadt says voting by text is illegal, thus the guy was inciting people to lawlessness and crimethink
as a prank, he urged supporters of a certain candidate to vote by text
Der Stadt says voting by text is illegal, thus the guy was inciting people to lawlessness and crimethink
Posted by: DB- just DB at January 31, 2021 02:16 PM (iTXRQ)
342
He now has an appointment with O'brien in Room 101
Posted by: DB- just DB at January 31, 2021 02:17 PM (iTXRQ)
343
I can't imagine how something like whatever that guy did ("meme" maker) could be prosecuted. Which statute is the basis for the prosecution?
*********
18 USC 241. Conspiracy against rights. KKK charges.
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18 USC 241. Conspiracy against rights. KKK charges.
Posted by: EveR at January 31, 2021 02:20 PM (R0z7P)
344
There's a new thread.
Posted by: m at January 31, 2021 02:50 PM (XLxIe)
345
Drive around Atlanta with a truck with electric signs on it that say "Vote Democrat - Get $2000" and nothing happens.
Trick some dumbass who shouldn't even vote and get arrested 4 years later.
Posted by: f'd at January 31, 2021 01:22 PM (b8vLb)
Are they even pretending that some dumbass was even tricked here? I've heard no names offered.
Trick some dumbass who shouldn't even vote and get arrested 4 years later.
Posted by: f'd at January 31, 2021 01:22 PM (b8vLb)
Are they even pretending that some dumbass was even tricked here? I've heard no names offered.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 31, 2021 03:01 PM (EJbIh)
346
A February 2016 analysis by the MIT Media Lab ranked Mackey as the 107th most important influencer of the then-upcoming Election, ranking his account above outlets and individuals such as NBC News (#114), Stephen Colbert (#119) and Newt Gingrich (#141).
And there we go; he was better than people the government liked at the job.
And there we go; he was better than people the government liked at the job.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 31, 2021 04:23 PM (Z7Jj3)
347
346 A February 2016 analysis by the MIT Media Lab ranked Mackey as the 107th most important influencer of the then-upcoming Election, ranking his account above outlets and individuals such as NBC News (#114), Stephen Colbert (#119) and Newt Gingrich (#141).
And there we go; he was better than people the government liked at the job.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 31, 2021 04:23 PM (Z7Jj3)
There's that fake word again.
If it has to be used, there IS no influence.
And there we go; he was better than people the government liked at the job.
Posted by: NR Pax at January 31, 2021 04:23 PM (Z7Jj3)
There's that fake word again.
If it has to be used, there IS no influence.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at January 31, 2021 04:55 PM (49Dnm)
348
Can we arrest the asshoes at Fox for "calling" the election and depressing the vote?
Posted by: CN loves Biden, Biden is the greatest at January 31, 2021 05:04 PM (ONvIw)
349
It ought to be clear to everyone that we need to fear our government. The only way out of this will be bloodshed.
Posted by: Bob do at January 31, 2021 06:22 PM (D2wY0)
350
We need to start by dropping bridges
Posted by: Bob do at January 31, 2021 06:31 PM (D2wY0)
351
It's easy to call it the Left and leave it at that, but in reality the ADL and the SPLC, both very jewish, are pushing this deplatforming and conservatives never tell the truth about this.
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Signs Your Clown Has Gone Bad
Signs That You, Geroge Michael, Should Probably Just Give It Up
Signs of Hip-Hop Influence on John Kerry
NYT Headlines Spinning Bush's Jobs Boom
Things People Are More Likely to Say Than "Did You Hear What Al Franken Said Yesterday?"
Signs that Paul Krugman Has Lost His Frickin' Mind
All-Time Best NBA Players, According to Senator Robert Byrd
Other Bad Things About the Jews, According to the Koran
Signs That David Letterman Just Doesn't Care Anymore
Examples of Bob Kerrey's Insufferable Racial Jackassery
Signs Andy Rooney Is Going Senile
Other Judgments Dick Clarke Made About Condi Rice Based on Her Appearance
Collective Names for Groups of People
John Kerry's Other Vietnam Super-Pets
Cool Things About the XM8 Assault Rifle
Media-Approved Facts About the Democrat Spy
Changes to Make Christianity More "Inclusive"
Secret John Kerry Senatorial Accomplishments
John Edwards Campaign Excuses
John Kerry Pick-Up Lines
Changes Liberal Senator George Michell Will Make at Disney
Torments in Dog-Hell
Greatest Hitjobs
The Ace of Spades HQ Sex-for-Money Skankathon
A D&D Guide to the Democratic Candidates
Margaret Cho: Just Not Funny
More Margaret Cho Abuse
Margaret Cho: Still Not Funny
Iraqi Prisoner Claims He Was Raped... By Woman
Wonkette Announces "Morning Zoo" Format
John Kerry's "Plan" Causes Surrender of Moqtada al-Sadr's Militia
World Muslim Leaders Apologize for Nick Berg's Beheading
Michael Moore Goes on Lunchtime Manhattan Death-Spree
Milestone: Oliver Willis Posts 400th "Fake News Article" Referencing Britney Spears
Liberal Economists Rue a "New Decade of Greed"
Artificial Insouciance: Maureen Dowd's Word Processor Revolts Against Her Numbing Imbecility
Intelligence Officials Eye Blogs for Tips
They Done Found Us Out, Cletus: Intrepid Internet Detective Figures Out Our Master Plan
Shock: Josh Marshall Almost Mentions Sarin Discovery in Iraq
Leather-Clad Biker Freaks Terrorize Australian Town
When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
What Wonkette Means When She Explains What Tina Brown Means
Wonkette's Stand-Up Act
Wankette HQ Gay-Rumors Du Jour
Here's What's Bugging Me: Goose and Slider
My Own Micah Wright Style Confession of Dishonesty
Outraged "Conservatives" React to the FMA
An On-Line Impression of Dennis Miller Having Sex with a Kodiak Bear
The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
Our Lunch with David "Glengarry Glen Ross" Mamet
The House of Love: Paul Krugman
A Michael Moore Mystery (TM)
The Dowd-O-Matic!
Liberal Consistency and Other Myths
Kepler's Laws of Liberal Media Bias
John Kerry-- The Splunge! Candidate
"Divisive" Politics & "Attacks on Patriotism" (very long)
The Donkey ("The Raven" parody)
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